From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Jan 16 8:17: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from asimov.freenix.no (freenix.no [195.139.70.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFE114BEE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 08:16:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from morten@freenix.no) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by asimov.freenix.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA48625 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 17:19:14 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 17:19:14 +0100 (MET) From: "Morten A. Middelthon" To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD mentioned on techweb.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Linux Scales Enterprise Wall" http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB20000114S0013 The article talks about companies planning to use either Linux or FreeBSD as their "primary platform for e-commerce". -- Morten A. Middelthon Freenix Norge http://www.freenix.no/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Jan 16 10:16:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248F115039 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 10:16:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (dcs@p18-dn03kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [210.232.224.147]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) with ESMTP id DAA06390; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 03:16:37 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <38820A89.F41F18D2@newsguy.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 03:14:33 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Morten A. Middelthon" Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD mentioned on techweb.com References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Morten A. Middelthon" wrote: > > "Linux Scales Enterprise Wall" > http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB20000114S0013 > > The article talks about companies planning to use either Linux or FreeBSD > as their "primary platform for e-commerce". Does anyone know of a url to survey.com's raw data? -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "I know Kung Fu." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Jan 16 11:17:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mail.xmission.com (mail.xmission.com [198.60.22.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D03514C91 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 11:17:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from [204.68.178.39] (helo=softweyr.com ident=wes) by mail.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #3) id 129vB1-0004Dq-00; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 12:17:28 -0700 Message-ID: <38821A36.AE9A47EA@softweyr.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 12:21:26 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Morten A. Middelthon" Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD mentioned on techweb.com References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Morten A. Middelthon" wrote: > > "Linux Scales Enterprise Wall" > http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB20000114S0013 > > The article talks about companies planning to use either Linux or FreeBSD > as their "primary platform for e-commerce". And you didn't submit this to daily.daemonnews.org? (Or Slashdot, for that matter?) Why? -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Jan 16 11:29:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (smtp10.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.200.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED4A14DEE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 11:29:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@intellocity.com) Received: from jimtnt (user-33qtqcg.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.233.144]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA14700 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 14:29:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Jim Turk" To: Subject: Receiving two copies of all messages Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 12:28:34 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <38821A36.AE9A47EA@softweyr.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is it just me or is everyone getting two copies of every message on this list? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Jan 16 11:59:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (smtp10.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.200.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D92914DEA for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 11:59:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuyman@confusion.net) Received: from confusion.net (user-2ivebek.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.45.212]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00105; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 14:59:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <388222DB.7FD4B9CB@confusion.net> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 14:58:20 -0500 From: Laurence Berland Organization: B.R.A.T.T. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Turk Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Receiving two copies of all messages References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It may not be just you, but I'm certainly not getting two copies... If you're still having a problem you should get three of this message. Jim Turk wrote: > > Is it just me or is everyone getting two copies of every message on this > list? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message -- Laurence Berland, Stuyvesant HS Debate <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. http://stuy.debate.net icq #7434346 aol imer E1101 The above email Copyright (C) 2000 Laurence Berland All rights reserved To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Jan 16 12: 3:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mail.xmission.com (mail.xmission.com [198.60.22.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C7F915388 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 12:03:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from [204.68.178.39] (helo=softweyr.com) by mail.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #3) id 129vtn-0007MJ-00; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 13:03:47 -0700 Message-ID: <388224EF.2878C22E@softweyr.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 13:07:11 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: "Morten A. Middelthon" , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD mentioned on techweb.com References: <38820A89.F41F18D2@newsguy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: > > "Morten A. Middelthon" wrote: > > > > "Linux Scales Enterprise Wall" > > http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB20000114S0013 > > > > The article talks about companies planning to use either Linux or FreeBSD > > as their "primary platform for e-commerce". > > Does anyone know of a url to survey.com's raw data? It didn't take much looking to track it down. From their home page: The datamart-all responses in Excel or SPSS format ready to be analyzed by a variety of data mining or analysis applications-is already available; the formal report will be released February 9, 2000. An executive summary will be available at the Linux World Expo in New York, February 1-4, 2000. Those interested in purchasing the report or datamart should contact Roy Caudill, Director of Sales at 650-969-4791 or via email at royc@survey.com. Got some $$$ you're not doing anything with? -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Jan 16 16:14:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from intranova.net (blacklisted.intranova.net [209.3.31.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F49C150D0 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 16:14:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oogali@intranova.net) Received: (qmail 54540 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2000 19:17:01 -0000 Received: from hydrant.intranova.net (user43246@209.201.95.10) by blacklisted.intranova.net with SMTP; 16 Jan 2000 19:17:01 -0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 19:12:11 -0500 (EST) From: Omachonu Ogali To: Laurence Berland Cc: Jim Turk , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Receiving two copies of all messages In-Reply-To: <388222DB.7FD4B9CB@confusion.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm not receiving two copies. Omachonu Ogali Intranova Networking Group On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Laurence Berland wrote: > It may not be just you, but I'm certainly not getting two copies... > If you're still having a problem you should get three of this message. > > Jim Turk wrote: > > > > Is it just me or is everyone getting two copies of every message on this > > list? > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message > > -- > Laurence Berland, Stuyvesant HS Debate > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Windows 98: n. > useless extension to a minor patch release for > 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a > 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system > originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, > written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for > 1 bit of competition. > http://stuy.debate.net > icq #7434346 aol imer E1101 > The above email Copyright (C) 2000 Laurence Berland > All rights reserved > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Jan 16 21:48:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from server.bitmcnit.bryansk.su (bitmcnit.bryansk.ru [195.239.213.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E70C114FD4 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 21:48:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alex@kapran.bitmcnit.bryansk.su) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by server.bitmcnit.bryansk.su (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id IAA21655 for freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:40:16 +0300 Received: (from alex@localhost) by kapran.bitmcnit.bryansk.su (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01372 for freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 19:00:25 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from alex) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 19:00:25 +0300 From: Alex Kapranoff To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreBSD Rulez Message-ID: <20000116190024.A990@kapran.bitmcnit.bryansk.su> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG References: <15637142.947897037719.JavaMail.imail@prance.excite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <15637142.947897037719.JavaMail.imail@prance.excite.com>; from john_wilson100@excite.com on Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 04:43:57PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 04:43:57PM -0800, John Wilson wrote: > > Same thing. This country is still staggering and it's sometimes really > hard > > to find job for a young professional. > > I really cannot imagine how this could possibly help someone get a job. Really cannot? He just showed himself to potential emloyers. As far as I know he already has got several offers. > Isn't attempting to gain unauthorised access to a computer a criminal > offence in Russia? Yes, sometimes customer sites can hire groups of Kind of. Haven't heard of any cases. Computer law here is rudimentary. > hackers to perform "penetration testing" on their systems, but even then > there are some problems. If a company wants to hire someone to hack their > own site, they must ensure that the scope of the hacking attempts are > clearly defined beforehand, and the people they hire must ensure that they > are insured against any accidental damage that they might cause to the > system. > > I don't see it happening here. How can a person break into a computer > system, tell everyone he did it and expect to get away with it? I realize > that some laws are not enforced, but in this case it's like robbing a bank, > killing a bunch of security guards, and then saying, "Hey! Your security's > no good - you gotta hire me guys!" Robbing a pot of gold and then saying "I know how to secure your money by putting it in a safe! Hire me!" > > FreeBSD is strong in Russia. It doesn't need any advocacy here. > > Well it looks like it does - or people wouldn't be running Linux! :) Linux hype is just entering Russia. We've got no TV ads or stadium posters with "Corel Linux!" yet, but major mass-media starts to notice Linux. Meanwhile according to some survey (several months ago) about half of all internet servers under .ru zone run FreeBSD. That's pretty amazing in comparison with the official 15% throughout the world. (i'm gonna recheck the figures - they're just plain old) -- Alex Kapranoff, 2:50/383.20@fidonet, Voice: +7(0832)791845. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Jan 16 23:19: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from asimov.freenix.no (freenix.no [195.139.70.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6776C1504C for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:19:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from morten@freenix.no) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by asimov.freenix.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA51126; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:21:17 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:21:17 +0100 (MET) From: "Morten A. Middelthon" To: Wes Peters Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD mentioned on techweb.com In-Reply-To: <38821A36.AE9A47EA@softweyr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Wes Peters wrote: > "Morten A. Middelthon" wrote: > > > > "Linux Scales Enterprise Wall" > > http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB20000114S0013 > > > > The article talks about companies planning to use either Linux or FreeBSD > > as their "primary platform for e-commerce". > > And you didn't submit this to daily.daemonnews.org? (Or Slashdot, for that > matter?) Why? There seems to be a slight DNS problem harkonnen:~> nslookup daily.daemonnews.org can't find daily.daemonnews.org: Non-existent host/domain And as for slashdot.. well... Although it's not the correct attitude, I trust someone else has/will post the story on DN and/or slashdot -- Morten A. Middelthon Freenix Norge http://www.freenix.no/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Jan 16 23:44: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mail.xmission.com (mail.xmission.com [198.60.22.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035A315013 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:43:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from [204.68.178.39] (helo=softweyr.com ident=wes) by mail.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #3) id 12A6pP-000067-00; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:43:56 -0700 Message-ID: <3882C92B.52A65E56@softweyr.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:47:55 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Morten A. Middelthon" Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD mentioned on techweb.com References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Morten A. Middelthon" wrote: > > On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Wes Peters wrote: > > > "Morten A. Middelthon" wrote: > > > > > > "Linux Scales Enterprise Wall" > > > http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB20000114S0013 > > > > > > The article talks about companies planning to use either Linux or FreeBSD > > > as their "primary platform for e-commerce". > > > > And you didn't submit this to daily.daemonnews.org? (Or Slashdot, for that > > matter?) Why? > > There seems to be a slight DNS problem > > harkonnen:~> nslookup daily.daemonnews.org > > > can't find daily.daemonnews.org: Non-existent host/domain > > And as for slashdot.. well... > > Although it's not the correct attitude, I trust someone else has/will post > the story on DN and/or slashdot I did, shortly after chastising you for it. Now daily is off the air for some reason. Sigh. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Jan 17 2:18:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from freenix.no (freenix.no [195.139.70.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51A314D97 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 02:18:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from morten@freenix.no) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freenix.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA51828; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:20:56 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:20:55 +0100 (MET) From: "Morten A. Middelthon" To: Wes Peters Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD mentioned on techweb.com In-Reply-To: <3882C92B.52A65E56@softweyr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Wes Peters wrote: > I did, shortly after chastising you for it. Now daily is off the air for > some reason. Sigh. Yes, it was very painful. Anyway, I added it to my "own" newssite, http://www.freenix.no/#nyheter though, if that helps :) -- Morten A. Middelthon Freenix Norge http://www.freenix.no/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Jan 17 12:23:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from pebkac.owp.csus.edu (pebkac.owp.csus.edu [130.86.232.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDEAF14CFF for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:23:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Received: from owp.csus.edu (dialup2-004.csus.edu [130.86.24.4]) by pebkac.owp.csus.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21922; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:21:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Message-ID: <38836A32.FDB70C77@owp.csus.edu> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:14:58 -0800 From: Joseph Scott X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wes Peters Cc: "Morten A. Middelthon" , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD mentioned on techweb.com References: <3882C92B.52A65E56@softweyr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wes Peters wrote: > > > There seems to be a slight DNS problem > > > > harkonnen:~> nslookup daily.daemonnews.org > > > > > > can't find daily.daemonnews.org: Non-existent host/domain > > > > And as for slashdot.. well... > > > > Although it's not the correct attitude, I trust someone else has/will post > > the story on DN and/or slashdot > > I did, shortly after chastising you for it. Now daily is off the air for > some reason. Sigh. > Yep, this has been brought up and DES is working on it. Joseph Scott joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Jan 17 12:43:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from roadrunner.ptcweb.net (roadrunner.ptcweb.net [208.232.10.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B4D15030 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:43:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jrogers@ptcweb.net) Received: by roadrunner.ptcweb.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:45:01 -0600 Message-ID: <01DA5B2F7781D1118B4900A0C98C76B821CCE8@roadrunner.ptcweb.net> From: Jules Rogers To: "'freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org'" Subject: Daemon News info anyone? Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:44:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone know what happened to www.daemonnews.org? Didn't they have ISP problems in the past? There isn't even a DNS entry for them anymore. Jules Rogers PTCWeb Internetworking Solutions 504.887.4172 504.887.4175 fax jrogers@ptcweb.net http://www.ptcweb.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Jan 17 13: 3: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from peloton.runet.edu (peloton.runet.edu [137.45.96.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A3B714FEA for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:03:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brett@peloton.runet.edu) Received: from localhost (brett@localhost) by peloton.runet.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA14450; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:02:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from brett@peloton.runet.edu) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:02:54 -0500 (EST) From: Brett Taylor To: Jules Rogers Cc: "'freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Daemon News info anyone? In-Reply-To: <01DA5B2F7781D1118B4900A0C98C76B821CCE8@roadrunner.ptcweb.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Jules Rogers wrote: > Does anyone know what happened to www.daemonnews.org? Didn't they have > ISP problems in the past? There isn't even a DNS entry for them > anymore. DES updated to a new bind port (he's the primary DNS server) and it's caused problems. He's working on it... Brett Editor in Chief - DaemonNews ***************************************************** Dr. Brett Taylor brett@peloton.runet.edu * Dept of Chem and Physics * Curie 39A (540) 831-6147 * Dept. of Mathematics and Statistics * Walker 234 (540) 831-5410 * ***************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Jan 17 13:31:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.psn.net (pluto.psn.net [207.211.58.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4B514EC3 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:31:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from will@shadow.blackdawn.com) Received: from 21-048.008.popsite.net ([209.69.197.48] helo=shadow.blackdawn.com) by pluto.psn.net with esmtp (PSN Internet Service 3.12 #1) id 12AJkG-0001uY-00; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:31:30 -0700 Received: by shadow.blackdawn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EEE761976; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:30:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:30:47 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Brett Taylor Cc: FreeBSD Advocacy Subject: Re: Daemon News info anyone? Message-ID: <20000117163047.B35896@shadow.blackdawn.com> References: <01DA5B2F7781D1118B4900A0C98C76B821CCE8@roadrunner.ptcweb.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from brett@peloton.runet.edu on Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 04:02:54PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 04:02:54PM -0500, Brett Taylor wrote: > DES updated to a new bind port (he's the primary DNS server) and it's > caused problems. He's working on it... www.ofug.org doesn't work either, so you're probably right. I just tried a SSH connect to NS1.OFUG.ORG - the machine's there, so it's a DNS problem for sure. --Will To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Jan 17 21:13:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mail.xmission.com (mail.xmission.com [198.60.22.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17BF14EAA for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:13:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from [204.68.178.39] (helo=softweyr.com ident=wes) by mail.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #3) id 12AQx2-0001yg-00; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 22:13:09 -0700 Message-ID: <3883F757.5D94C018@softweyr.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 22:17:11 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jules Rogers Cc: "'freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Daemon News info anyone? References: <01DA5B2F7781D1118B4900A0C98C76B821CCE8@roadrunner.ptcweb.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jules Rogers wrote: > > Does anyone know what happened to www.daemonnews.org? Didn't they have ISP > problems in the past? There isn't even a DNS entry for them anymore. The primary DNS server is in the process of beating up the maintainer, in an effort to upgrade to BIND 8.2.mumble. Prayers and sacrifices will be appreciated, especially if they help. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Jan 17 23:20:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from gh0st.tps.sk (gh0st.tps.sk [195.168.1.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1A315093 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:20:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tps@ncc.nextra.sk) Received: from localhost (tps@localhost) by gh0st.tps.sk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07783; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:20:43 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:20:43 +0100 (CET) From: Tomas TPS Ulej X-Sender: tps@gh0st.tps.sk To: Jules Rogers Cc: "'freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Daemon News info anyone? In-Reply-To: <01DA5B2F7781D1118B4900A0C98C76B821CCE8@roadrunner.ptcweb.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Try http://dnews.freebsd.sk -- Tomas TPS Ulej NEXTRA SK, Network Coordination Centre more? http://www.ripe.net/cgi-bin/whois?tu36-ripe On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Jules Rogers wrote: > Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:44:58 -0600 > From: Jules Rogers > To: "'freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org'" > Subject: Daemon News info anyone? > > Does anyone know what happened to www.daemonnews.org? Didn't they have ISP > problems in the past? There isn't even a DNS entry for them anymore. > > > Jules Rogers > PTCWeb Internetworking Solutions > 504.887.4172 > 504.887.4175 fax > jrogers@ptcweb.net > http://www.ptcweb.net > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Jan 18 15:39:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from azazel.zer0.org (azazel.zer0.org [209.133.53.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D12150CC for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 15:39:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gsutter@azazel.zer0.org) Received: (from gsutter@localhost) by azazel.zer0.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA50550; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 15:38:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gsutter) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 15:38:34 -0800 From: Gregory Sutter To: Jules Rogers Cc: "'freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Daemon News info anyone? Message-ID: <20000118153834.A50492@azazel.zer0.org> References: <01DA5B2F7781D1118B4900A0C98C76B821CCE8@roadrunner.ptcweb.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <01DA5B2F7781D1118B4900A0C98C76B821CCE8@roadrunner.ptcweb.net>; from jrogers@ptcweb.net on Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 02:44:58PM -0600 Organization: Zer0 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 02:44:58PM -0600, Jules Rogers wrote: > Does anyone know what happened to www.daemonnews.org? Didn't they have ISP > problems in the past? There isn't even a DNS entry for them anymore. We had a bout of DNS trouble, but we're back on the net now. Enjoy! http://www.daemonnews.org/ http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Regards, Greg -- Gregory S. Sutter "Software is like sex; it's better mailto:gsutter@pobox.com when it's free." -- Linus Torvalds http://www.pobox.com/~gsutter/ PGP DSS public key 0x40AE3052 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Jan 21 3:11:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A161515450 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 03:11:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.196.111]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with ESMTP id FOON2K01.B1U; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:11:08 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA06972; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:11:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:11:04 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Michael Lucas Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: review request Message-ID: <20000121121104.A6965@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <200001111659.LAA37581@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200001111659.LAA37581@blackhelicopters.org>; from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org on Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 11:59:06AM -0500 Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -On [20000111 19:25], Michael Lucas (mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) wrote: >I've taken the discussions we had (okay, that I started) on the high >points of the BSDL, and churned them into an article. Late mayhaps, but take a peek at this page: http://www.io.com/~kazushi/license/ It lists most common licenses used nowadays in the OSS world. Keep up the work! -- Jeroen Ruigrok vd W/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl|freebsd.org] Documentation nutter/B-rated Coder BSD: Technical excellence at its best The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Ain't gonna spend the rest of my Life, quietly fading away... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Jan 21 3:17:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E34515450 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 03:17:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.196.111]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA4F5F; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:17:37 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA06980; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:17:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:17:34 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Peter Schwenk Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: license (no longer Re: uptimes, Woo Hoo) Message-ID: <20000121121734.B6965@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <200001071310.IAA17308@blackhelicopters.org> <3875F2CC.6A771456@math.udel.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <3875F2CC.6A771456@math.udel.edu>; from schwenk@math.udel.edu on Fri, Jan 07, 2000 at 09:06:04AM -0500 Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -On [20000107 16:02], Peter Schwenk (schwenk@math.udel.edu) wrote: >I thought I heard a rumor that Apple has contributed some source back >to the FreeBSD project, but that's just hearsay. Late reply, Wilfredo Sanchez is from apple and one of the FreeBSD committers. So you see that the BSDL doesn't mean there's no return from the corporate angle. -- Jeroen Ruigrok vd W/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl|freebsd.org] Documentation nutter/B-rated Coder BSD: Technical excellence at its best The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Ain't gonna spend the rest of my Life, quietly fading away... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Jan 21 10:45:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5CA14CFA for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 10:45:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 773311C5D; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:45:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:45:46 -0500 From: Bill Fumerola To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: Peter Schwenk , advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: license (no longer Re: uptimes, Woo Hoo) Message-ID: <20000121134546.D48683@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <200001071310.IAA17308@blackhelicopters.org> <3875F2CC.6A771456@math.udel.edu> <20000121121734.B6965@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000121121734.B6965@daemon.ninth-circle.org>; from asmodai@wxs.nl on Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 12:17:34PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 12:17:34PM +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > Wilfredo Sanchez is from apple and one of the FreeBSD committers. > > So you see that the BSDL doesn't mean there's no return from the > corporate angle. I think you picked a bad sample case: [hawk-billf] /home/ncvs/CVSROOT/commitlogs > zgrep -e '^wsanchez' * doc:wsanchez 1999/11/17 21:45:41 PST [hawk-billf] /home/ncvs/CVSROOT/commitlogs > -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect Computer Horizons Corp - CVM e-mail: billf@chc-chimes.com / billf@FreeBSD.org Office: 800-252-2421 x128 / Cell: 248-761-7272 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Jan 21 11:40:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from synapse.queenbitch.net (queenbitch.net [209.9.205.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A39214C5A for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:40:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from papalia@udel.edu) Received: from morgaine (host75-157.student.udel.edu [128.175.75.157]) by synapse.queenbitch.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA23543 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:40:09 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.20000121143748.0094f380@mail.udel.edu> X-Sender: papalia@mail.udel.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:39:07 -0500 To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org From: John Subject: CNet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey all, I don't know if anyone had mentioned this before, but CNet has actually stated what a bunch of people here have been saying all along.... Look at: http://home.cnet.com/category/topic/0,10000,0-3709-7-285083,00.html To quote CNet: "Harriet's a bit miffed at Linux's recent celebrity status. The Berkeley Software Distribution of Unix was the original free operating system. And it's really Unix; Linux is just a work-alike. True, FreeBSD doesn't support as many hardware configurations as Linux, but it works just fine on most PCs. And Harriet doesn't need all the handholding Linux provides. She does need lightning-fast speed, rock-solid stability, and the ability to modify the OS as she pleases. FreeBSD fits that bill. " Just thought I'd pass it on. --John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Jan 21 14:16: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from ind.alcatel.com (postal.xylan.com [208.8.0.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 088B6155B9 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:15:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from mailhub.xylan.com (mailhub [198.206.181.70]) by ind.alcatel.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1 (ind.alcatel.com 3.0 [OUT])) with SMTP id OAA20191 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:15:55 -0800 (PST) X-Origination-Site: Received: from omni.xylan.com by mailhub.xylan.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (mailhub 2.1 [HUB])) id OAA07706; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:15:55 -0800 Received: from softweyr.com (dyn1.utah.xylan.com [198.206.184.237]) by omni.xylan.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1 (Xylan engr [SPOOL])) with ESMTP id OAA02973 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:14:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3888DBA1.C10F1DB6@softweyr.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:20:17 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: More vendor participation. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When you encounter a company that makes products that run on, or are based on FreeBSD, invite them to send all relevant press releases so they can be included in announce@freebsd.org, and/or to daily.daemonnews.org. Both can be valuable free channels, and are happy to provide information about FreeBSD partners to FreeBSD users. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message