From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Dec 10 11:30:56 2000 From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 11:30:52 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from satan.freebsdsystems.com (satan.freebsdsystems.com [24.69.168.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049BE37B400; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:30:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from lnb@localhost) by satan.freebsdsystems.com (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eBAJUkK71243; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:30:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:30:46 -0500 From: Lanny Baron To: Daniel Stehm Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD for me? Message-ID: <20001210143046.A71058@satan.freebsdsystems.com> References: <001f01c062d5$78494e00$10b3fea9@silentchaos> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001f01c062d5$78494e00$10b3fea9@silentchaos>; from daniel.stehm@verizon.net on Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 01:17:33PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Daniel, I have been using FreeBSD since '94. Trust me, it's been very hard at times= for reasons beyond the scope of this message.=20 Anyway, I started a company which builds servers and home user systems, all= built upon FreeBSD. The reason I say that is _not_ to try to sell you anyt= hing. Rather to say that indeed, FreeBSD imho is the finest of OS's around.= With many new ports for various things, I no longer (for some time now) ha= ve need for a windoze box, other than to test out file and print sharing. Y= ou can run linux programs with FreeBSD by installing /usr/ports/emulators/l= inux_base.=20 Yes I truly advocate the use of FreeBSD and spreading the "good news" about= FreeBSD's strengths. In actuallity, you have nothing to loose, but a lot t= o gain in tryingit out. Regards, --Lanny On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 01:17:33PM -0500, Daniel Stehm wrote: > Just wanted to thank everyone for their response to my question. It was > answered perfectly, and Im going to CompUSA this week with every intention > of purchasing myself a copy of FreeBSD Power Pack. Again, appreciate > everyone who replied and helped me in my decision :) >=20 > Daniel Stehm >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjoz2eYACgkQixS5xnIdd5d8AACfSLaE8YJw83SBUsp42gRLuHhV /YEAnAgpu9ckTZHWbOwhgxR0imPs9VX6 =YrP8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Dec 11 15:50:34 2000 From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 15:50:32 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from dnull.com (dnull.com [209.133.53.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 033B937B402 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:50:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from jigsaw.svbug.com (mg131-025.ricochet.net [204.179.131.25]) by dnull.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA88050; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:50:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200012112350.PAA88050@dnull.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:48:05 -0800 (PST) From: jessem@livecam.com Reply-To: jessemonroy@email.com Subject: SVEC Meeting: BSD or Linux....Which? Why? To: advocacy@freebsd.org Cc: advocacy@netbsd.org, advocacy@openbsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: jessem@jigsaw.svbug.com Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry to all, the last post did not send the right stuff. Here it is: ==================================================================== From: "B. Mitchell Loebel" Subject: Silicon Valley Entrepreneur's Connection - Dec. 11th Meeting Notice Reminder ... This is your notice for the Monday, December 11th (TONIGHT) meeting of the Silicon Valley Entrepreneur's Connection. Please see the attached Acrobat file for additional information including directions to the meeting site (Sun Microsystems, 901 San Antonio Rd., Palo Alto). Important -- please notify us immediately by email if you are unable to read the attachment. BSD OS or Linux ... Which? Why? Not long ago, Microsoft's Windows xx was the OS to beat. Linux successfully stepped up to the plate. Now we hear other voices from within the Open Source community ... more servers are running BSD than Linux and the latest Mac OS is based on BSD! (Which of the several strains of BSD, by the way?) So what did Linux do right and/or what did the BSD community do wrong such that Linux became the perceived leader? We asked John Sokol, CEO, Enumera to help us unscramble the confusion. We asked him to to tell us how he feels that BSD is superior to Linux. We asked him to tell us about the development projects currently in progress and who are the players. John is well qualified to help us ... he wrote some of the important early BSD code. If BSD is truly "one down" in the Open Source community, then it represents an important entrepreneurial opportunity. Let's all find out more. The main meeting starts at 7:30PM (stragglers beware - no entry after 8PM!) and a discussion of member projects currently underway and other issues of interest to entrepreneurs begins at 9:15PM (important business opportunities are often discussed). Adding to your knowledge, planning entry into the field, beginning a new enterprise? This is the meeting! B. Mitchell Loebel Executive Director The Silicon Valley Entrepreneur's Connection 408 264-2068 CEO, CTO Multinode Microsystems Corporation 408 264-2068 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Dec 12 5:46:55 2000 From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 05:46:52 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.ocsny.com (apollo.ocsny.com [204.107.76.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A37337B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 05:46:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ocsinternet.com (fw234.ocsny.com [204.107.76.234]) by apollo.ocsny.com (8.9.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA44740; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:46:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A362BFD.5CAB5118@ocsinternet.com> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:45:34 -0500 From: mikel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jessemonroy@email.com Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, advocacy@netbsd.org, advocacy@openbsd.org Subject: Re: SVEC Meeting: BSD or Linux....Which? Why? References: <200012112350.PAA88050@dnull.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Will you be posting the minutes of that meeting? It might be nice to know what's going on since there are those of us on the other cost who are unable to attend. Cheers, Mikel jessem@livecam.com wrote: > Sorry to all, the last post did not send the right stuff. > Here it is: > ==================================================================== > > From: "B. Mitchell Loebel" > Subject: Silicon Valley Entrepreneur's Connection - Dec. 11th > Meeting Notice > > Reminder ... > > This is your notice for the Monday, December 11th (TONIGHT) meeting > of the Silicon Valley Entrepreneur's Connection. Please see the > attached Acrobat file for additional information including directions > to the meeting site (Sun Microsystems, 901 San Antonio Rd., Palo > Alto). Important -- please notify us immediately by email if you are > unable to read the attachment. > > BSD OS or Linux ... Which? Why? > > Not long ago, Microsoft's Windows xx was the OS to beat. Linux > successfully stepped up to the plate. Now we hear other voices from > within the Open Source community ... more servers are running BSD > than Linux and the latest Mac OS is based on BSD! (Which of the > several strains of BSD, by the way?) So what did Linux do right > and/or what did the BSD community do wrong such that Linux became the > perceived leader? > > We asked John Sokol, CEO, Enumera to help us unscramble the > confusion. We asked him to to tell us how he feels that BSD is > superior to Linux. We asked him to tell us about the development > projects currently in progress and who are the players. John is well > qualified to help us ... he wrote some of the important early BSD > code. > > If BSD is truly "one down" in the Open Source community, then it > represents an important entrepreneurial opportunity. Let's all find > out more. > > The main meeting starts at 7:30PM (stragglers beware - no entry after > 8PM!) and a discussion of member projects currently underway and > other issues of interest to entrepreneurs begins at 9:15PM (important > business opportunities are often discussed). Adding to your > knowledge, planning entry into the field, beginning a new enterprise? > This is the meeting! > > B. Mitchell Loebel > > Executive Director > The Silicon Valley Entrepreneur's Connection 408 264-2068 > > CEO, CTO > Multinode Microsystems Corporation 408 264-2068 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Dec 12 10:39:12 2000 From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 10:39:11 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from dnull.com (dnull.com [209.133.53.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C843F37B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:39:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from jigsaw.svbug.com (mg131-025.ricochet.net [204.179.131.25]) by dnull.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA96970; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:38:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200012121838.KAA96970@dnull.com> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:36:15 -0800 (PST) From: jessem@livecam.com Reply-To: jessemonroy@email.com Subject: Re: SVEC Meeting: BSD or Linux....Which? Why? To: mikel@ocsinternet.com Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, advocacy@netbsd.org, advocacy@openbsd.org, multinode@earthlink.net In-Reply-To: <3A362BFD.5CAB5118@ocsinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: jessem@jigsaw.svbug.com Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 12 Dec, mikel wrote: > Will you be posting the minutes of that meeting? It might be nice to know > what's going on since there are those of us on the other cost who are > unable to attend. > No, I'm sorry meeting minutes are not available. SVEC is a small club and while things like "presentation slides" and audio tapes are simple enough, we don't have money for minutes transcription. As for the audio portion, I'll talk to Mitchell and see about making it public domain. But that's alot to ask as that is his only collateral for SVEC. I say this because some clubs have video tapes. In any case, I'll see what I can do. However, I have a big convention today in town and I won't even be able to do something, until at least Friday. BTW, of course, BSD won over Linux. :-) best regards, jessem. 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Fri, 15 Dec 2000 03:05:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from morten@localhost) by freenix.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01054 for freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:05:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from morten) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:05:37 +0100 From: "Morten A . Middelthon" To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Very nice article about FreeBSD Message-ID: <20001215120537.C340@freenix.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE X-Warning: So cunning you could brush your teeth with it. Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The author compares (Red Hat) Linux against FreeBSD. Imo the author seems to have nice good knowledge about both FreeBSD and Linux, so the article is nothing like "FreeBSD rocks! Linux sucks eggs!" and so on. http://www.webtechniques.com/archives/2001/01/infrrevu/ -- Morten A. Middelthon Freenix Norge http://www.freenix.no/ -- If you cannot convince them, confuse them. -- Harry S Truman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message