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I've just done a relatively painless upgrade from 3.4-STABLE to 4.0,
kudos to all he developers. However, one thing that doesn't work is
causing me great problems. My ISA PnP modem is found as "unknown0",
instead of sio2 no matter what I do:

unknown0: <Pace 56 Voice Internal Plug & Play Modem> at port
0x3e8-0x3ef irq 5 on isa0

The full dmseg output is at the end of this post.

I've tried changing the PnP-OS seting in the BIOS, but it's no
different.

I thought I'd found the solution in LINT:

	# PnP `flags' (set via userconfig using pnp x flags y)
	#	0x1	disable probing of this device.  Used to
	#		prevent your modem from being attached
	#		as a PnP modem.
	#

which appears to be what is needed but ``boot -c'' and ``pnp 1 flags
0x1'' at the ``config>'' prompt gives:

	Invalid command or syntax. type '?' for help.

Does anyone know the solution to this? This modem has worked
flawlessly on this PC from 2.2.8 to 3.4-STABLE and it would be a shame
to have to replace it now.

TIA

BTW, please Cc: me diractly as I'm not subscribed to any lists under
this temporary Internet account, thanks.

dmesg output:

Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
	The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #3: Sat Mar  4 19:45:35 GMT 2000
    root@parish:/usr/src/sys/compile/PARISH
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 233864767 Hz
CPU: AMD-K6tm w/ multimedia extensions (233.86-MHz 586-class CPU)
  Origin = "AuthenticAMD"  Id = 0x562  Stepping = 2
  Features=0x8001bf<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,MMX>
  AMD Features=0x400<<b10>>
real memory  = 67108864 (65536K bytes)
avail memory = 61726720 (60280K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0311000.
Preloaded elf module "vesa.ko" at 0xc031109c.
Preloaded userconfig_script "/kernel.config" at 0xc0311138.
VESA: v2.0, 4096k memory, flags:0x0, mode table:0xc030e102 (1000022)
VESA: ATI MACH64
md0: Malloc disk
npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcib0: <Host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
isab0: <Intel 82371AB PCI to ISA bridge> at device 7.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
pci0: <Intel PIIX4 ATA controller> at 7.1
pci0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> at 7.2 irq 11
chip1: <Intel 82371AB Power management controller> port 0x5f00-0x5f0f
at device 7.3 on pci0
pci0: <ATI Mach64-GP graphics accelerator> at 8.0
sym0: <875> port 0x6600-0x66ff mem
0xe1002000-0xe1002fff,0xe1001000-0xe10010ff irq 10 at device 9.0 on
pci0
sym0: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-20, SE, parity checking
sym0: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM
sym0: SCAN AT BOOT disabled for targets 1 2 3 4 5 9 10 11 12 13 14 15.
xl0: <3Com 3c900-COMBO Etherlink XL> port 0x6700-0x673f irq 9 at
device 10.0 on pci0
xl0: Ethernet address: 00:60:08:73:4e:e0
xl0: selecting 10baseT transceiver, half duplex
pcm0: <AudioPCI ES1371> port 0x6800-0x683f irq 11 at device 11.0 on
pci0
fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on
isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
atkbdc0: <keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60-0x6f on isa0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
psm0: <PS/2 Mouse> irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on
isa0
sc0: <System console> on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200>
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
sio1: type 16550A
sio2: configured irq 5 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppbus0: IEEE1284 device found /NIBBLE/ECP
Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0:
ppbus0: <HEWLETT-PACKARD DESKJET 610C> MLC,PCL,PML
plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
unknown0: <Pace 56 Voice Internal Plug & Play Modem> at port
0x3e8-0x3ef irq 5 on isa0
Waiting 10 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
(noperiph:sym0:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered.
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s3a
cd0 at sym0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0
cd0: <TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-6201TA 1030> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device 
cd0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 16)
cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not
present
da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: <IBM DCAS-34330W S65A> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit)
da0: 4134MB (8467200 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 527C)
da1 at sym0 bus 0 target 8 lun 0
da1: <IBM DDRS-34560W S97B> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged
Queueing Enabled
da1: 4357MB (8925000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 555C)




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At Sun, 5 Mar 2000 01:32:39 -0500 (EST),
Andrew Atrens <atrens@nortelnetworks.com> wrote:
> 
> A missing (not implemented) linux ioctl is breaking VMWare 2.0 -
> 
> > linux: 'ioctl' fd=13, cmd=1260 ('^R',96) not implemented
> 
> 
> After rummaging around in the 2.3 kernel, I found the following in
> `linux/include/linux/fs.h':

Hmm?  I'm using Win98 (Japanese), Win2K (Japanese), and
FreeBSD-current on vmware 2.0 with linux emulator of yesterday's
-current without any problems.  Am I wrong?

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I've had a look at the problem described by Guido and it is reprodicuble
here. Somehow a transfer is not descheduled when it should and this make
uhci_done bomb because of a stale pointer.

So, do not unplug the drive without a drive until this has been fixed.


Nick



On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Guido van Rooij wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 02, 2000 at 08:32:00PM +0000, Nick Hibma wrote:
> > 
> > 	camcontrol rescan 0
> > 	dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=10k count=100
> > 	disklabel -r -w da0 fd1440
> > 	newfs /dev/da0
> > 
> > Keep me posted on the results or any problems you have.
> > 
> 
> Bij deze:
> 
> plug in floppy drive op een vaio.
> camcontrol rescan 0
> unplug de floppy drive
> wacht 2-3 seconden
> panic...en wel zodanig erg dat hij geen dump meer kan maken
> 
> -Guido
> 

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On Sat, 4 Mar 2000, Mark Ovens wrote:

> I've just done a relatively painless upgrade from 3.4-STABLE to 4.0,
> kudos to all he developers. However, one thing that doesn't work is
> causing me great problems. My ISA PnP modem is found as "unknown0",
> instead of sio2 no matter what I do:
> 
> unknown0: <Pace 56 Voice Internal Plug & Play Modem> at port
> 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 5 on isa0
> 
> The full dmseg output is at the end of this post.
> 
> I've tried changing the PnP-OS seting in the BIOS, but it's no
> different.
> 
> I thought I'd found the solution in LINT:
> 
> 	# PnP `flags' (set via userconfig using pnp x flags y)
> 	#	0x1	disable probing of this device.  Used to
> 	#		prevent your modem from being attached
> 	#		as a PnP modem.
> 	#
> 
> which appears to be what is needed but ``boot -c'' and ``pnp 1 flags
> 0x1'' at the ``config>'' prompt gives:
> 
> 	Invalid command or syntax. type '?' for help.
> 
> Does anyone know the solution to this? This modem has worked
> flawlessly on this PC from 2.2.8 to 3.4-STABLE and it would be a shame
> to have to replace it now.

Could you send me the output of pnpinfo. I think we are missing a PnP ID
in the sio driver.

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Andrew Atrens wrote:
> 
> A missing (not implemented) linux ioctl is breaking VMWare 2.0 -
> 
> > linux: 'ioctl' fd=13, cmd=1260 ('^R',96) not implemented

I implemented this ioctl. It's not as hard as you think. You do a
DIOCGDINFO and return d_secperunit. But unfortunately, when I
did this, a warning went away from the vmware log file, but vmware
_still_ segfaulted immediately after, so I think there's more to it.

Fortunately, this only affects raw disks. Virtual ones still work.
I would attach my implementation for the missing ioctl below, but
I can't find it. I send a copy to Marcel, but I I lost mine in my
latest cvsup. :-(

In the meantime, you can still fetch build 438 (I think), which is
one of the 2.0 betas. It doesn't have this problem. Take a look at
the freebsd-emulation mailing list archive.

> 
> After rummaging around in the 2.3 kernel, I found the following in
> `linux/include/linux/fs.h':
> 
> /* the read-only stuff doesn't really belong here, but any other place is
>    probably as bad and I don't want to create yet another include file. */
> 
> #define BLKROSET   _IO(0x12,93) /* set device read-only (0 = read-write) */
> #define BLKROGET   _IO(0x12,94) /* get read-only status (0 = read_write) */
> #define BLKRRPART  _IO(0x12,95) /* re-read partition table */
> #define BLKGETSIZE _IO(0x12,96) /* return device size */
> #define BLKFLSBUF  _IO(0x12,97) /* flush buffer cache */
> #define BLKRASET   _IO(0x12,98) /* Set read ahead for block device */
> #define BLKRAGET   _IO(0x12,99) /* get current read ahead setting */
> #define BLKFRASET  _IO(0x12,100)/* set filesystem (mm/filemap.c) read-ahead */
> #define BLKFRAGET  _IO(0x12,101)/* get filesystem  (mm/filemap.c) read-ahead */
> #define BLKSECTSET _IO(0x12,102)/* set max sectors per request (ll_rw_blk.c) */
> #define BLKSECTGET _IO(0x12,103)/* get max sectors per request (ll_rw_blk.c) */
> #define BLKSSZGET  _IO(0x12,104)/* get block device sector size */
> 
> So it looks like BLKGETSIZE is the missing ioctl.
> 
> I'm not sure how to fix this, because well, we don't have block devices,
> the ATA driver doesn't support ioctls _or_ have a useful psize attribute
> in its cdevsw struct.
> 
> I naively thought I could use fstat() then devsw() to map the file
> descriptor to a device, and then interrogate the device's psize. But that
> goofy attempt just resulted in a kernel panic. :) Please don't dis me on
> how stupid that was - instead tell me what I should do :)
> 
> Seriously though, any help y'all could provide would be greatly
> appreciated. :)
> 
> Andrew.
> 
> --
> 
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Ah! I found it!

--- linux_ioctl.h.orig  Mon Feb 28 11:50:23 2000
+++ linux_ioctl.h       Mon Feb 28 11:24:08 2000
@@ -32,6 +32,25 @@
 #define        _LINUX_IOCTL_H_

 /*
+ * disk
+ */
+#define LINUX_BLKROSET         0x125d
+#define LINUX_BLKROGET         0x125e
+#define LINUX_BLKRRPART                0x125f
+#define LINUX_BLKGETSIZE       0x1260
+#define LINUX_BLKFLSBUF                0x1261
+#define LINUX_BLKRASET         0x1262
+#define LINUX_BLKRAGET         0x1263
+#define LINUX_BLKFRASET                0x1264
+#define LINUX_BLKFRAGET                0x1265
+#define LINUX_BLKSECTSET       0x1266
+#define LINUX_BLKSECTGET       0x1267
+#define LINUX_BLKSSZGET                0x1268
+
+#define        LINUX_IOCTL_DISK_MIN    LINUX_BLKROSET
+#define        LINUX_IOCTL_DISK_MAX    LINUX_BLKSSZGET
+
+/*
  * cdrom
  */
 #define        LINUX_CDROMPAUSE        0x5301
--- linux_ioctl.c.orig  Mon Feb 28 11:50:07 2000
+++ linux_ioctl.c       Mon Feb 28 11:11:09 2000
@@ -46,6 +46,7 @@
 #include <net/if_types.h>
 #include <sys/sockio.h>
 #include <sys/soundcard.h>
+#include <sys/disklabel.h>

 #include <machine/console.h>

@@ -55,12 +56,15 @@
 #include <i386/linux/linux_proto.h>
 #include <i386/linux/linux_util.h>

+static linux_ioctl_function_t linux_ioctl_disk;
 static linux_ioctl_function_t linux_ioctl_cdrom;
 static linux_ioctl_function_t linux_ioctl_console;
 static linux_ioctl_function_t linux_ioctl_socket;
 static linux_ioctl_function_t linux_ioctl_sound;
 static linux_ioctl_function_t linux_ioctl_termio;

+static struct linux_ioctl_handler disk_handler =
+{ linux_ioctl_disk, LINUX_IOCTL_DISK_MIN, LINUX_IOCTL_DISK_MAX };
 static struct linux_ioctl_handler cdrom_handler =
 { linux_ioctl_cdrom, LINUX_IOCTL_CDROM_MIN, LINUX_IOCTL_CDROM_MAX };
 static struct linux_ioctl_handler console_handler =
@@ -72,6 +76,7 @@
 static struct linux_ioctl_handler termio_handler =
 { linux_ioctl_termio, LINUX_IOCTL_TERMIO_MIN, LINUX_IOCTL_TERMIO_MAX };

+DATA_SET(linux_ioctl_handler_set, disk_handler);
 DATA_SET(linux_ioctl_handler_set, cdrom_handler);
 DATA_SET(linux_ioctl_handler_set, console_handler);
 DATA_SET(linux_ioctl_handler_set, socket_handler);
@@ -87,6 +92,23 @@

 static TAILQ_HEAD(, handler_element) handlers =
        TAILQ_HEAD_INITIALIZER(handlers);
+
+static int
+linux_ioctl_disk(struct proc *p, struct linux_ioctl_args *args)
+{
+       struct file *fp = p->p_fd->fd_ofiles[args->fd];
+       int error;
+       struct disklabel dl;
+
+       switch (args->cmd & 0xffff) {
+       case LINUX_BLKGETSIZE:
+               error = fo_ioctl(fp, DIOCGDINFO, (caddr_t)&dl, p);
+               if (error)
+                       return (error);
+               return copyout(&(dl.d_secperunit), (caddr_t)args->arg,
sizeof(dl.d_secperunit));
+       }
+       return (ENOIOCTL);
+}

 /*
  * termio related ioctls


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On Sun, Mar 05, 2000 at 01:04:23PM +0000, Doug Rabson wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Mar 2000, Mark Ovens wrote:
> 
> > I've just done a relatively painless upgrade from 3.4-STABLE to 4.0,
> > kudos to all he developers. However, one thing that doesn't work is
> > causing me great problems. My ISA PnP modem is found as "unknown0",
> > instead of sio2 no matter what I do:
> > 
> > unknown0: <Pace 56 Voice Internal Plug & Play Modem> at port
> > 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 5 on isa0
> > 
> > The full dmseg output is at the end of this post.
> > 
> > I've tried changing the PnP-OS seting in the BIOS, but it's no
> > different.
> > 
> > I thought I'd found the solution in LINT:
> > 
> > 	# PnP `flags' (set via userconfig using pnp x flags y)
> > 	#	0x1	disable probing of this device.  Used to
> > 	#		prevent your modem from being attached
> > 	#		as a PnP modem.
> > 	#
> > 
> > which appears to be what is needed but ``boot -c'' and ``pnp 1 flags
> > 0x1'' at the ``config>'' prompt gives:
> > 
> > 	Invalid command or syntax. type '?' for help.
> > 
> > Does anyone know the solution to this? This modem has worked
> > flawlessly on this PC from 2.2.8 to 3.4-STABLE and it would be a shame
> > to have to replace it now.
> 
> Could you send me the output of pnpinfo. I think we are missing a PnP ID
> in the sio driver.
> 

The line I've added to sio.c is:


    {0x3024a341, NULL},	/* PMC2430 - Pace 56 Voice Internal Modem */

Output of pnpinfo:

Checking for Plug-n-Play devices...

Card assigned CSN #1
Vendor ID PMC2430 (0x3024a341), Serial Number 0xffffffff
PnP Version 1.0, Vendor Version 0
Device Description: Pace 56 Voice Internal Plug & Play Modem

Logical Device ID: PMC2430 0x3024a341 #0
	Device supports I/O Range Check
TAG Start DF
    I/O Range 0x3f8 .. 0x3f8, alignment 0x8, len 0x8
	[16-bit addr]
    IRQ: 4  - only one type (true/edge)
TAG Start DF
    I/O Range 0x2f8 .. 0x2f8, alignment 0x8, len 0x8
	[16-bit addr]
    IRQ: 3  - only one type (true/edge)
TAG Start DF
    I/O Range 0x3e8 .. 0x3e8, alignment 0x8, len 0x8
	[16-bit addr]
    IRQ: 4  - only one type (true/edge)
TAG Start DF
    I/O Range 0x2e8 .. 0x2e8, alignment 0x8, len 0x8
	[16-bit addr]
    IRQ: 3  - only one type (true/edge)
TAG Start DF
    I/O Range 0x3f8 .. 0x3f8, alignment 0x8, len 0x8
	[16-bit addr]
    IRQ: 5 7 9 10 11 12 15  - only one type (true/edge)
TAG Start DF
    I/O Range 0x2f8 .. 0x2f8, alignment 0x8, len 0x8
	[16-bit addr]
    IRQ: 5 7 9 10 11 12 15  - only one type (true/edge)
TAG Start DF
    I/O Range 0x3e8 .. 0x3e8, alignment 0x8, len 0x8
	[16-bit addr]
    IRQ: 5 7 9 10 11 12 15  - only one type (true/edge)
TAG Start DF
    I/O Range 0x2e8 .. 0x2e8, alignment 0x8, len 0x8
	[16-bit addr]
    IRQ: 5 7 9 10 11 12 15  - only one type (true/edge)
TAG Start DF
    I/O Range 0x100 .. 0xfff8, alignment 0x8, len 0x8
	[16-bit addr]
    IRQ: 3 4 5 7 9 10 11 12 15  - only one type (true/edge)
TAG End DF
End Tag

Successfully got 31 resources, 1 logical fdevs
-- card select # 0x0001

CSN PMC2430 (0x3024a341), Serial Number 0xffffffff

Logical device #0
IO:  0x03e8 0x03e8 0x03e8 0x03e8 0x03e8 0x03e8 0x03e8 0x03e8
IRQ 5 0
DMA 4 0
IO range check 0x00 activate 0x01


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Warner Losh wrote:
> In message <Pine.BSF.4.21.0003041929570.33647-100000@hub.freebsd.org> Kris Ke
    nnaway writes:
> : Can someone tell me the exact date that 4.x was split from 3.x? I couldn't
> : seem to pin it down based on the CVS repository.
> 
> Based on sys/i386/conf/files.i386:
> 	1/20/99 to 2/10/99
> Based on sys/conf/files:
> 	1/17/99 to 1/21/99
> 
> So I'd say it was somewhere between 1/20/99 and 1/21/99.  Is that
> close enough for you to "exact"?  The branching proccess takes a
> while, so I think this is as close as you may get.

sys/conf/newvers.sh is (or was) the best spot to look at:

revision 1.42
date: 1999/01/21 03:07:33;  author: jkh;  state: Exp;  lines: +2 -2
This is now 4.0-current

revision 1.41.2.1
date: 1999/01/21 05:33:18;  author: jkh;  state: Exp;  lines: +2 -2
Now we're -STABLE

Note that this is GMT.

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> I've had a look at the problem described by Guido and it is reprodicuble
> here. Somehow a transfer is not descheduled when it should and this make
> uhci_done bomb because of a stale pointer.
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> So, do not unplug the drive without a drive until this has been fixed.
			                ^^^^^

				        reboot.

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Hi,

I'm trying to get a Lucent WaveLAN card to work on a Dell Latitude
CPxH450GT laptop running 4.0-Current RC2 (20000214). As the generic kernel
seem to include the wi driver from the start, I figured it would work if I
just copied pccard.conf.sample to pccard.conf (removing all unnecessary
entries), but it doesn't. When I boot the system I get:

wi0: No irq?!
pccardd[46]: driver allocation failed for Lucent Technologies
(WaveLAN/IEEE): Device not configured
pccardd[46]: pccardd started

Then, if i remove and re-insert the card I get:

wi0: No I/O space?!
pccardd[46]: driver allocation ....

I'm not sure wether this is a kernel config problem or a pccard.conf
problem, I've tried to change IRQ:s etc in pccard.conf, but to no
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1. Is your computer overclocked?

2. Is the computer totally frozen?  (i.e. scroll lock doesn't turn the light on)

3. Does similar load crash the box as well?  (try make -j2 world)

4. Does it freeze in the same spot?

5. Is the computer not responding to pings?

If you've answered yes to a good amount of these questions, there is a good
chance that your processor(s) are overheating.  Try improving the airflow to the
case (But using a household fan isn't recommended due to EMI)

-Dan Papasian
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On Sat, Mar 04, 2000 at 11:50:10PM -0800, Arun Sharma wrote:
> Compiling Mozilla with make -j 2 got -current to lock up, twice in
> succession. I'm running a fairly recent snapshot (a week or two old)
> on a Dual celeron box (BP6) with UDMA66 enabled.
> 
> The kernel had DDB enabled. I was running X, but I didn't see any
> signs of the kernel attempting to get into the debugger.
> 
> Has this been fixed ? Is anyone interested in investigating ?
> I'll post more info if I find anything.
> 
> 	-Arun
> 
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On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, Mark Ovens wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 05, 2000 at 01:04:23PM +0000, Doug Rabson wrote:
> > Could you send me the output of pnpinfo. I think we are missing a PnP ID
> > in the sio driver.
> > 
> 
> The line I've added to sio.c is:
> 
> 
>     {0x3024a341, NULL},	/* PMC2430 - Pace 56 Voice Internal Modem */

Does the modem work with this addition? If so, I'll commit the change.

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On Sun, Mar 05, 2000 at 04:04:59PM +0000, Doug Rabson wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, Mark Ovens wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Mar 05, 2000 at 01:04:23PM +0000, Doug Rabson wrote:
> > > Could you send me the output of pnpinfo. I think we are missing a PnP ID
> > > in the sio driver.
> > > 
> > 
> > The line I've added to sio.c is:
> > 
> > 
> >     {0x3024a341, NULL},	/* PMC2430 - Pace 56 Voice Internal Modem */
> 
> Does the modem work with this addition? If so, I'll commit the change.
> 

Yes :)

sio2: <Pace 56 Voice Internal Plug & Play Modem> at port 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 5 on isa0
sio2: type 16550A

Why did it work before though, under 3.x, without this line in sio.c?

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From owner-freebsd-current  Sun Mar  5  8:52: 6 2000
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I've encountered a problem when booting my -current kernel.  I'd include parts
of the /var/log/messages, but it does not write to it when I boot up current.

I installed the -current kernel, and made the devices for ad0 and ad1 including
all the slices that I need, besides making all devices.  I changed the
/etc/fstab from wd to ad.  I manually enter my root device when it's booting.

Here's the problem I have:

(I bet it's because of somethign stupid i did, or did not do...)

It detects ad0 and ad1 allright, but then when it tries to mount root (ad0s3a)
it gives me an error like the following: ad0: WRITE timed out.  It then
proceeds to crash.

If anybody can help me I'd appreciate that, I know I don't have a whole lot
of information, but I'll provide it if anybody needs specific things.. It's
just a little harder to include it when it doesn't save it to the hard drive.

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Firstly, a big thank-you to all the developers for their work on 4.x.

I've just u/g 3.4-STABLE -> 4.0, following the instructions in
/usr/source/UPDATING using sources cvsup'd 10:00GMT 4th March, and
although it went quite smoothly came across a few minor problems
which I'm posting here in case anyone is interested.

1. This message appeared 166 times during ``make buildworld'':

	/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.4" not found

   It also caused config(8) on the new kernel to fail, but

	ldconfig -R /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc

   cured that.

2. UPDATING includes the following in the instructions to build the
   new kernel:

	cd src/usr.bin/genassym
	make depend all install clean
	cd ../../usr.sbin/config
	make depend all install clean
 
   however doing a ``make clean'' at this point then causes ``make
   installworld'' fail in those directories.

3. This probably won't affect most people but I'm including it so
   it's in the mail archives.

   I have a Diamond Fireport 40 SCSI card (NCR/Symbios 53c875j
   chip) and my 2nd (UW SCSI) disk is a single slice (although
   *not* dangerously dedicated) mounted as /usr. As this disk is
   not a boot device I had not enabled boot probing for it in the
   SCSI BIOS but under 2.2.x and 3.x it was still found by the old
   ncr driver.

   The new sym driver, however, failed to find the disk and caused
   a "device not configured" error from mount(8) which resulted in
   the boot-up dropping to single-user. It took me a while to find
   the cause (I thought it was a problem, or my mistake, when making
   the new device nodes for the disks).

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Subject: Re: Modem no longer found after u/g to 4.0-current - help 
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   of "Sun, 05 Mar 2000 16:10:47 GMT." <20000305161047.B211@parish> 
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Mark Ovens wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 05, 2000 at 04:04:59PM +0000, Doug Rabson wrote:
> > On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, Mark Ovens wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sun, Mar 05, 2000 at 01:04:23PM +0000, Doug Rabson wrote:
> > > > Could you send me the output of pnpinfo. I think we are missing a PnP I
    D
> > > > in the sio driver.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > The line I've added to sio.c is:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >     {0x3024a341, NULL},	/* PMC2430 - Pace 56 Voice Internal Modem */
> > 
> > Does the modem work with this addition? If so, I'll commit the change.
> > 
> 
> Yes :)
> 
> sio2: <Pace 56 Voice Internal Plug & Play Modem> at port 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 5 on
     isa0
> sio2: type 16550A

Heh, it's already committed.  (oops! :-)

> Why did it work before though, under 3.x, without this line in sio.c?

The PNP bios preconfigured it and left it laying around in port space,
so the old-style isa probes "found" it there.

Under 4.0, the isa code is much more pnp centric.  It was possible for an
isa probe to find a "stray" device and then for the PNP device id to match
and then fail due to resource conflicts.  So, it disables the programmable
cards first so this double probing cannot happen.  It also means that it
needs to know the PNP id's for supported pnp hardware.  Making this more
user tweakable is on the TODO list.

Cheers,
-Peter



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On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 12:57:50AM +0800, Peter Wemm wrote:
> Mark Ovens wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 05, 2000 at 04:04:59PM +0000, Doug Rabson wrote:
> > > On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, Mark Ovens wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Sun, Mar 05, 2000 at 01:04:23PM +0000, Doug Rabson wrote:
> > > > > Could you send me the output of pnpinfo. I think we are missing a PnP I
>     D
> > > > > in the sio driver.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The line I've added to sio.c is:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >     {0x3024a341, NULL},	/* PMC2430 - Pace 56 Voice Internal Modem */
> > > 
> > > Does the modem work with this addition? If so, I'll commit the change.
> > > 
> > 
> > Yes :)
> > 
> > sio2: <Pace 56 Voice Internal Plug & Play Modem> at port 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 5 on
>      isa0
> > sio2: type 16550A
> 
> Heh, it's already committed.  (oops! :-)
> 
> > Why did it work before though, under 3.x, without this line in sio.c?
> 
> The PNP bios preconfigured it and left it laying around in port space,
> so the old-style isa probes "found" it there.
> 
> Under 4.0, the isa code is much more pnp centric.  It was possible for an
> isa probe to find a "stray" device and then for the PNP device id to match
> and then fail due to resource conflicts.  So, it disables the programmable
> cards first so this double probing cannot happen.  It also means that it
> needs to know the PNP id's for supported pnp hardware.  Making this more
> user tweakable is on the TODO list.
> 

Thanks for the explanation.

> Cheers,
> -Peter
> 

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From owner-freebsd-current  Sun Mar  5  9:46:55 2000
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I keep getting 'trap 12' with 4.0-CURRENT when running rvplayer5.
Has anyone else experienced this?

I haven't got a remote terminal for debugging, but it looks like
this bug is emanating from the fxp driver:
fxp_start+0x110   movl  %edx,0(%ecx, %eax ,1)


System:
% uname -a
FreeBSD motsognir.unik.no 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #31: Thu Mar  2 15:34:17 CET 2000     root@motsognir.unik.no:/usr/src/sys/compile/ZEUS  i386

% dmesg | grep fxp
fxp0: <Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B Ethernet> port 0xb400-0xb41f mem 0xdf000000-0xdf0fffff,0xe2000000-0xe2000fff irq 17 at device 11.0 on pci0

XFree version 3.3.5

I can try to borrow remote terminal to get a trace if anyone's
interested.

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i know i have been here before, but i forget the magic.  and i checked
UPDATING and mail archive (the restoration thereof is much appreciated!)

cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -Wall -I/usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_deny/../../../../contrib/libpam/libpam/include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_deny/../../../../contrib/libpam/modules/pam_deny/pam_deny.c -o pam_deny.So
building standard pam_deny library
ranlib libpam_deny.a
building shared library pam_deny.so
===> libpam/modules/pam_kerberosIV
make: don't know how to make /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libcrypto.a. Stop
*** Error code 2

randy


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Doug White forwarded this message to me....  I actually have done this
but I have not cleaned the code up for committing to the tree...

I have been running this code for over a half year now...

if people want, I can comitte this as is, but I'm using old daily
routines on my box, not the newer ones...

bak=/var/backups
echo ""
echo ""
echo "checking disks for defects:"
for i in `camcontrol devlist | awk '/(da|sd)/ { if (match($0, "(da|sd)[[:digit:]]+") != 0) { diskname = substr($0, RSTART, RLENGTH); match(diskname, "[[:digit:]]+"); print substr(diskname, RSTART, RLENGTH) } }' | sort -u`; do
        if [ -f ${bak}/da${i}.glist ]; then
                mv ${bak}/da${i}.glist ${bak}/da${i}.glist.bak
        fi
        echo -n "da${i}: "
        camcontrol defects -u $i -f phys -G 2>&1 > ${bak}/da${i}.glist
        if [ -f ${bak}/da${i}.glist.bak ]; then
                if ! cmp -s ${bak}/da${i}.glist ${bak}/da${i}.glist.bak; then
                        diff ${bak}/da${i}.glist.bak ${bak}/da${i}.glist
                fi
        fi
done

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The USB patchset for FreeBSD now contains the driver for the 

	Diamond Rio 500 MP3 Player

as well. Any comments on the driver? Please contact to the author: Iwasa
Kazmi <kzmi@ca2.so-net.ne.jp>

The patchset is available from

	http://www.etla.net/~n_hibma/usb/usb.pl#URIODriver

and is made against CURRENT as of 2000/03/05 02:00. Instructions are
included in the file.

Keep us posted!

Nick

On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Iwasa Kazmi wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> I put a new FreeBSD driver on my web page.
> http://www02.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ca2/kzmi/rio-tools/rio-fbsd-0306.tar.gz
> 
> It includes Dirk's code for FreeBSD 4.0.
> 
> Now this driver has 143 as its major number.
> Nick Hibma, a member of FreeBSD USB project, says that he would like to
> add this driver to the FreeBSD source repository.
> It's very nice. I'm going to do something for it.
> 
> 
> Iwasa Kazmi
> kzmi@ca2.so-net.ne.jp
> 

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On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, Randy Bush wrote:

> 
> cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -Wall -I/usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_deny/../../../../contrib/libpam/libpam/include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_deny/../../../../contrib/libpam/modules/pam_deny/pam_deny.c -o pam_deny.So
> building standard pam_deny library
> ranlib libpam_deny.a
> building shared library pam_deny.so
> ===> libpam/modules/pam_kerberosIV
> make: don't know how to make /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libcrypto.a. Stop
> *** Error code 2

Are you building with NO_OPENSSL? I just ran into this exact problem
myself overnight with my buildworld with NO_OPENSSL enabled.

Try this patch:

Index: Makefile
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/libpam/modules/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.7
diff -u -r1.7 Makefile
--- Makefile	2000/02/28 21:00:50	1.7
+++ Makefile	2000/03/05 21:30:35
@@ -26,10 +26,10 @@
 
 SUBDIR+=	pam_cleartext_pass_ok
 SUBDIR+=	pam_deny
-.if defined(MAKE_KERBEROS4) && !defined(NOCRYPT)
+.if defined(MAKE_KERBEROS4) && !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL)
 SUBDIR+=	pam_kerberosIV
 .endif
-.if defined(MAKE_KERBEROS5__) && !defined(NOCRYPT)
+.if defined(MAKE_KERBEROS5__) && !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL)
 SUBDIR+=	pam_kerberos5
 .endif
 SUBDIR+=	pam_permit

----
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    -- Charles Forsythe <forsythe@alum.mit.edu>



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Oops, my buildworld -DNOCLEAN just failed again. Updated patch:

Index: libpam/Makefile
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/libpam/libpam/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.11
diff -u -r1.11 Makefile
--- libpam/Makefile	2000/02/28 21:00:48	1.11
+++ libpam/Makefile	2000/03/05 21:46:10
@@ -62,16 +62,16 @@
 # Static PAM modules:
 STATIC_MODULES+= ${MODOBJDIR}/pam_cleartext_pass_ok/libpam_cleartext_pass_ok.a
 STATIC_MODULES+= ${MODOBJDIR}/pam_deny/libpam_deny.a
-.if defined(MAKE_KERBEROS4) && !defined(NOCRYPT)
+.if defined(MAKE_KERBEROS4) && !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL)
 STATIC_MODULES+= ${MODOBJDIR}/pam_kerberosIV/libpam_kerberosIV.a
 .endif
-.if defined(MAKE_KERBEROS5__) && !defined(NOCRYPT)
+.if defined(MAKE_KERBEROS5__) && !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL)
 STATIC_MODULES+= ${MODOBJDIR}/pam_kerberos5/libpam_kerberos5.a
 .endif
 STATIC_MODULES+= ${MODOBJDIR}/pam_permit/libpam_permit.a
 STATIC_MODULES+= ${MODOBJDIR}/pam_radius/libpam_radius.a
 STATIC_MODULES+= ${MODOBJDIR}/pam_skey/libpam_skey.a
-.if exists(${.CURDIR}/../../../crypto/openssh) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL)
+.if exists(${.CURDIR}/../../../crypto/openssh) && !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL)
 STATIC_MODULES+= ${MODOBJDIR}/pam_ssh/libpam_ssh.a
 .endif
 STATIC_MODULES+= ${MODOBJDIR}/pam_tacplus/libpam_tacplus.a
Index: modules/Makefile
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/libpam/modules/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.7
diff -u -r1.7 Makefile
--- modules/Makefile	2000/02/28 21:00:50	1.7
+++ modules/Makefile	2000/03/05 21:46:25
@@ -26,16 +26,16 @@
 
 SUBDIR+=	pam_cleartext_pass_ok
 SUBDIR+=	pam_deny
-.if defined(MAKE_KERBEROS4) && !defined(NOCRYPT)
+.if defined(MAKE_KERBEROS4) && !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL)
 SUBDIR+=	pam_kerberosIV
 .endif
-.if defined(MAKE_KERBEROS5__) && !defined(NOCRYPT)
+.if defined(MAKE_KERBEROS5__) && !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL)
 SUBDIR+=	pam_kerberos5
 .endif
 SUBDIR+=	pam_permit
 SUBDIR+=	pam_radius
 SUBDIR+=	pam_skey
-.if exists(${.CURDIR}/../../../crypto/openssh) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL)
+.if exists(${.CURDIR}/../../../crypto/openssh) && !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL)
 SUBDIR+=	pam_ssh
 .endif
 SUBDIR+=	pam_tacplus

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To: John-Mark Gurney <gurney_j@resnet.uoregon.edu>
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On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, John-Mark Gurney wrote:
> Doug White forwarded this message to me....  I actually have done this
> but I have not cleaned the code up for committing to the tree...
> 
> I have been running this code for over a half year now...
> 
> if people want, I can comitte this as is, but I'm using old daily
> routines on my box, not the newer ones...

I like it, though you may want to have an /etc/glist.conf and let the
user add stuff with a script that tests to make sure a drive supports the
format.  A script to test and populate this file wouldn't be
difficult.

#
# /etc/glist.conf
#
# Drive name		Format (block, bfi, phys)
da0			phys
da1			block
...

> bak=/var/backups
> echo ""
> echo ""
> echo "checking disks for defects:"
> for i in `camcontrol devlist | awk '/(da|sd)/ { if (match($0, "(da|sd)[[:digit:]]+") != 0) { diskname = substr($0, RSTART, RLENGTH); match(diskname, "[[:digit:]]+"); print substr(diskname, RSTART, RLENGTH) } }' | sort -u`; do
>         if [ -f ${bak}/da${i}.glist ]; then
>                 mv ${bak}/da${i}.glist ${bak}/da${i}.glist.bak
>         fi
>         echo -n "da${i}: "
>         camcontrol defects -u $i -f phys -G 2>&1 > ${bak}/da${i}.glist
>         if [ -f ${bak}/da${i}.glist.bak ]; then
>                 if ! cmp -s ${bak}/da${i}.glist ${bak}/da${i}.glist.bak; then
>                         diff ${bak}/da${i}.glist.bak ${bak}/da${i}.glist
>                 fi
>         fi
> done
> 
> 

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>> cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -Wall -I/usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_deny/../../../../contrib/libpam/libpam/include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_deny/../../../../contrib/libpam/modules/pam_deny/pam_deny.c -o pam_deny.So
>> building standard pam_deny library
>> ranlib libpam_deny.a
>> building shared library pam_deny.so
>> ===> libpam/modules/pam_kerberosIV
>> make: don't know how to make /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libcrypto.a. Stop
>> *** Error code 2
> Are you building with NO_OPENSSL? I just ran into this exact problem
> myself overnight with my buildworld with NO_OPENSSL enabled.

that's the cause.

> Try this patch:

thanks.  will do.

randy


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On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, Nick Hibma wrote:

> 
> The USB patchset for FreeBSD now contains the driver for the 
> 
> 	Diamond Rio 500 MP3 Player
> 
> as well. Any comments on the driver? Please contact to the author: Iwasa
> Kazmi <kzmi@ca2.so-net.ne.jp>
> 
> The patchset is available from
> 
> 	http://www.etla.net/~n_hibma/usb/usb.pl#URIODriver
> 
> and is made against CURRENT as of 2000/03/05 02:00. Instructions are
> included in the file.

Thanks Nick. Meanwhile in addition to the ./configure command on that
page, until the rio500-linux boys have commited a small patch, the above
ports.tgz should more or less build the much needed userland tools; which
requires just a <stdint.h> <-> <sys/param.h> patch.

> Keep us posted!

Dw.
 
> On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Iwasa Kazmi wrote:
> 
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > I put a new FreeBSD driver on my web page.
> > http://www02.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ca2/kzmi/rio-tools/rio-fbsd-0306.tar.gz
> > 
> > It includes Dirk's code for FreeBSD 4.0.
> > 
> > Now this driver has 143 as its major number.
> > Nick Hibma, a member of FreeBSD USB project, says that he would like to
> > add this driver to the FreeBSD source repository.
> > It's very nice. I'm going to do something for it.
> > 
> > 
> > Iwasa Kazmi
> > kzmi@ca2.so-net.ne.jp
> > 
> 
> --
> n_hibma@webweaving.org
> n_hibma@freebsd.org                                          USB project
> http://www.etla.net/~n_hibma/
> 
> 
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On Sat, 4 Mar 2000, Jeff Palmer wrote:

> I have cvsupped and tried to build world mutiple times over the past 3
> days,  each time I get the same error.  I have been following the mailing
> lists  and don't see any other complaints..  So I'm sure the trouble is
> with my machine...

Are you building with NO_OPENSSL?

Kris

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On Sat, 4 Mar 2000, Brian Dean wrote:

> William Woods wrote:
> > vm/vnode_pager.h -> vm/vnode_pager.ph
> > *** Error code 1
> > 
> > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/utils/h2ph.
> > *** Error code 1
> 
> I got the same thing here.  h2ph does not like /usr/include/des.h
> which is a symlink to /usr/include/openssl/des.h, complaining about
> "no such file or directory".  I fixed mine by hacking h2ph in

What is the difference between des.h and the 19 other symlinks we have in
/usr/include? i.e. why does it just hate this one?

The original poster also seemed to not be having this problem, at least
from the fragment of the log above: it's dying nowhere near
perlifying des.h.

Kris

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Matthew N. Dodd scribbled this message on Mar 5:
> On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, John-Mark Gurney wrote:
> > Doug White forwarded this message to me....  I actually have done this
> > but I have not cleaned the code up for committing to the tree...
> > 
> > I have been running this code for over a half year now...
> > 
> > if people want, I can comitte this as is, but I'm using old daily
> > routines on my box, not the newer ones...
> 
> I like it, though you may want to have an /etc/glist.conf and let the
> user add stuff with a script that tests to make sure a drive supports the
> format.  A script to test and populate this file wouldn't be
> difficult.

yeh, I originally was using block for a while, and ONE of my drives
didn't support it, then I switched to phys, and haven't had a problem..
and I have quite a range of drives:
hydrogen,ttyq3,~,502$grep 'Direct Access' /var/run/dmesg.boot
da3: <FUJITSU M2654S-512 010O> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-CCS device
da0: <MICROP 4421-07   0329SJ 0329> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
da5: <IMPRIMIS 94601-15 4614> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-CCS device
da6: <FUJITSU M2654S-512 010O> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-CCS device
da2: <SAMSUNG WN32162U 0100> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
da1: <MICROP 4743 S150> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
da4: <MICROP 4743 S150> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device

which is a selection of scsi-1 (scsi-ccs), fast scsi, and ultra scsi
drives...  I'm sure that just using phys will keep all drives usable..
and if the user wants a different format, they can manually run
camcontrol...

bad disk blocks SHOULDN'T appear that often... :)

> #
> # /etc/glist.conf
> #
> # Drive name		Format (block, bfi, phys)
> da0			phys
> da1			block
> ...

something like:
`awk '$1 ~ /(da|sd)'"${i}"'/ { type = $2 } END { if (type == "" ) echo "phys"; else echo type; }'`

should do perfectly fine... :)

> > bak=/var/backups
> > echo ""
> > echo ""
> > echo "checking disks for defects:"
> > for i in `camcontrol devlist | awk '/(da|sd)/ { if (match($0, "(da|sd)[[:digit:]]+") != 0) { diskname = substr($0, RSTART, RLENGTH); match(diskname, "[[:digit:]]+"); print substr(diskname, RSTART, RLENGTH) } }' | sort -u`; do
> >         if [ -f ${bak}/da${i}.glist ]; then
> >                 mv ${bak}/da${i}.glist ${bak}/da${i}.glist.bak
> >         fi
> >         echo -n "da${i}: "
> >         camcontrol defects -u $i -f phys -G 2>&1 > ${bak}/da${i}.glist
> >         if [ -f ${bak}/da${i}.glist.bak ]; then
> >                 if ! cmp -s ${bak}/da${i}.glist ${bak}/da${i}.glist.bak; then
> >                         diff ${bak}/da${i}.glist.bak ${bak}/da${i}.glist
> >                 fi
> >         fi
> > done

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  The event is only the actualizing of its thought." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson


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The perl script h2ph does not exit immediately on des.h, it sets it's
$Exit value to 1, but continues processing.  If the original poster
would check further back in his log file, he'll see:

[...]
===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/utils/h2ph
install -c  -o root -g wheel -m 555   h2ph /usr/bin
install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 h2ph.1.gz  /usr/share/man/man1
cd /usr/include;  miniperl /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/utils/h2ph/h2ph -d 
 /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach * */*
Skipping directory `arpa'
Skipping directory `cam'
Can't open des.h: No such file or directory
Skipping directory `dev'
Skipping directory `g++'
Skipping directory `isofs'
Skipping directory `machine'
Skipping directory `msdosfs'
[...]
vm/vm_prot.h -> vm/vm_prot.ph
vm/vm_zone.h -> vm/vm_zone.ph
vm/vnode_pager.h -> vm/vnode_pager.ph
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/utils/h2ph.
*** Error code 1


Unfortunately, I don't remember if the thing des.h pointed to
(openssl/des.h) existed at the time.  After I modified h2ph to not
complain about that file, I did another make world a little bit later,
and it completed without incident.  I suspected that I had merely
sup'd at a bad time and just caught things in transition.

-Brian

Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > William Woods wrote:
> > > vm/vnode_pager.h -> vm/vnode_pager.ph
> > > *** Error code 1
> > > 
> > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/utils/h2ph.
> > > *** Error code 1
> > 
> > I got the same thing here.  h2ph does not like /usr/include/des.h
> > which is a symlink to /usr/include/openssl/des.h, complaining about
> > "no such file or directory".  I fixed mine by hacking h2ph in
> 
> What is the difference between des.h and the 19 other symlinks we have in
> /usr/include? i.e. why does it just hate this one?
> 
> The original poster also seemed to not be having this problem, at least
> from the fragment of the log above: it's dying nowhere near
> perlifying des.h.
> 
> Kris


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On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, Brian Dean wrote:

> The perl script h2ph does not exit immediately on des.h, it sets it's
> $Exit value to 1, but continues processing.  If the original poster
> would check further back in his log file, he'll see:

Ah, okay. There might be an ordering problem with the des.h symlink being
created before the openssl/des.h file which it points to. Any ideas,
Mark?

Kris

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Hi all, hate to post something this insignificant to the mailing list, but
I've search the entire src tree with no luck in resolving this myself
(well, grepping for awe64,wavetable,game .. found the AWE64 define in
/usr/src/sys/dev/sound/isa/sbc.c easily enough) .. I'm sure it's due to
some braindeadness on my behalf, but I'd sure appriciate someone steering
me in the right direction on this. I also searched for the 
matching/compatible ID strings, no luck.

Hopefully I provided enough information here...

FreeBSD area51.v-wave.com 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #1: Sun Mar  5
12:02:16 MST 2000     root@area51.v-wave.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/AREA51
i386

(cvsupped today -- well, at time of this posting.)

joy0 at port 0x201 on isa0
sbc0: <Creative SB AWE64> at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq
5 drq 1,5 on isa0
sbc0: setting card to irq 5, drq 1, 5
pcm0: <SB DSP 4.16> on sbc0
joy1: <Generic PnP Joystick> at port 0x208-0x20f on isa0
unknown0: <WaveTable> at port 0x620-0x623 on isa0

Now I tried enabling PNPBIOS in the kernel config, but that just produced
a screenful of crap [PNP OS is disabled in the BIOS], here are the
relevant kernel config options (no, I didn't add anything else for sound
but this):

[I read somewhere that the PCM driver doesn't support MIDI yet, not sure
if this is related]

device          pcm
device          joy0    at isa? port IO_GAME

Adding the sbc driver into the config didn't help either, produced the
same dmesg output as above.

I didn't use anything from the Voxware drivers like I used to under 3.x, I
also tried using the pnp directives for userconfig at boot time, but that
only produced syntax errors [same config I used for 3.x]:

in /boot/kernel.conf:

pnp 1 0 os enable irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 5 port0 0x220 port1 0x330 port2 0x388
pnp 1 1 os disable
pnp 1 2 os enable port0 0x620 port1 0xa20 port2 0xe20
pnp 1 3 os disable

devices in /dev:

(sh MAKEDEV snd0)

0 lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel         6 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/mixer@ -> mixer0
0 crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30,   0 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/mixer0
0 lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel        10 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/sequencer@ ->
sequencer0
0 crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30,   1 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/sequencer0
0 crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30,   2 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/midi0
0 lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel         4 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/dsp@ -> dsp0
0 crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30,   3 Mar  5 12:43 /dev/dsp0
0 lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel         5 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/dspW@ -> dspW0
0 crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30,   5 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/dspW0
0 lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel         6 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/audio@ -> audio0
0 crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30,   4 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/audio0
0 crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30,   6 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/sndstat
0 lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel         6 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/music@ -> music0
0 crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30,   8 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/music0
0 lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel         4 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/pss@ -> pss0
0 crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30,   9 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/pss0

/dev/sndstat reports:

FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Mar  5 2000 12:00:51
Installed devices:
pcm0: <SB DSP 4.16> at io 0x220 irq 5 drq 1:5 (1p/1r channels duplex)

And finally, a pnpinfo dump:

Checking for Plug-n-Play devices...

Card assigned CSN #1
Vendor ID CTL00c3 (0xc3008c0e), Serial Number 0x1fa45429
PnP Version 1.0, Vendor Version 16
Device Description: Creative SB AWE64 PnP
*** Small Vendor Tag Detected

Logical Device ID: CTL0045 0x45008c0e #0
Device Description: Audio
TAG Start DF
Good Configuration
    IRQ: 5  - only one type (true/edge)
    DMA: channel(s) 1 
	8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
    DMA: channel(s) 5 
	16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode
    I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x220, alignment 0x1, len 0x10
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x330 .. 0x330, alignment 0x1, len 0x2
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x388, alignment 0x1, len 0x4
	[16-bit addr]
TAG Start DF
Acceptable Configuration
    IRQ: 5 7 9 10  - only one type (true/edge)
    DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 
	8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
    DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7 
	16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode
    I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x388, alignment 0x1, len 0x4
	[16-bit addr]
TAG Start DF
Acceptable Configuration
    IRQ: 5 7 9 10  - only one type (true/edge)
    DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 
	8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
    DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7 
	16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode
    I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2
	[16-bit addr]
TAG Start DF
Acceptable Configuration
    IRQ: 5 7 9 10  - only one type (true/edge)
    DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 
	8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
    DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7 
	16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode
    I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
	[16-bit addr]
TAG Start DF
Acceptable Configuration
    IRQ: 5 7 9 10  - only one type (true/edge)
    DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 
	8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
    I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x388, alignment 0x1, len 0x4
	[16-bit addr]
TAG Start DF
Acceptable Configuration
    IRQ: 5 7 9 10  - only one type (true/edge)
    DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 
	8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
    I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2
	[16-bit addr]
TAG Start DF
Acceptable Configuration
    IRQ: 5 7 9 10  - only one type (true/edge)
    DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 
	8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
    I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
	[16-bit addr]
TAG Start DF
Sub-optimal Configuration
    IRQ: 5 7 9 10  - only one type (true/edge)
    DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 
	8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
    DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7 
	16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode
    I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x10, len 0x2
	[16-bit addr]
    I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x394, alignment 0x4, len 0x4
	[16-bit addr]
TAG End DF

Logical Device ID: CTL7002 0x02708c0e #1
Compatible Device ID: PNPb02f (2fb0d041)
Device Description: Game
TAG Start DF
Good Configuration
    I/O Range 0x200 .. 0x200, alignment 0x1, len 0x8
	[16-bit addr]
TAG Start DF
Acceptable Configuration
    I/O Range 0x200 .. 0x208, alignment 0x8, len 0x8
	[16-bit addr]
TAG End DF

Logical Device ID: CTL0022 0x22008c0e #2
Device Description: WaveTable
TAG Start DF
Good Configuration
    I/O Range 0x620 .. 0x620, alignment 0x1, len 0x4
	[16-bit addr]
TAG Start DF
Acceptable Configuration
    I/O Range 0x620 .. 0x680, alignment 0x20, len 0x4
	[16-bit addr]
TAG End DF
*** Small Vendor Tag Detected
End Tag

Successfully got 69 resources, 3 logical fdevs
-- card select # 0x0001

CSN CTL00c3 (0xc3008c0e), Serial Number 0x1fa45429

Logical device #0
IO:  0x0220 0x0220 0x0220 0x0220 0x0220 0x0220 0x0220 0x0220
IRQ 5 0
DMA 1 5
IO range check 0x00 activate 0x01

Logical device #1
IO:  0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000
IRQ 0 0
DMA 4 4
IO range check 0x00 activate 0x01

Logical device #2
IO:  0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000
IRQ 0 0
DMA 4 4
IO range check 0x00 activate 0x01


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Hi,

I have upgraded a machine to the latest -current snapshot (it
was running a -current from the end of January before).  Every-
thing went fine, except for one thing: ssh didn't work anymore.
It used to work fine before.

At first I was very suprised and had no clue what was going on.
I couldn't imagine how the new -current base system could
affect my ssh binary which had been installed from the ports
long before.  I even pkg_deleted it and re-installed it from
the ports (yeah, stupid me), to no avail.  It complained about
some RSA library missing.

Finally I got the great idea to type "which ssh", showing me
that there now was a (non-functional) ssh binary in /usr/bin.
I removed it, and everything started working again, picking up
the ports version from /usr/local/bin.

Apart from my stupidness of not checking the location of the
binary first -- what did I do wrong, and what's the recommended
way of handling this?  Am I supposed to rm /usr/bin/ssh each
time I install a new release or snapshot?  I can't believe
that.

By the way, _why_ is ssh in the base system now, and what is
wrong with having it in the ports?  I'm sorry if there was a
"HEADS UP" on this list, then I must have missed it.

Regards
   Oliver

PS:  Just in case if it matters, I have USA_RESIDENT=NO in my
make.conf.

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Hi,

Would someone please (pretty please) have a look at kern/16487
and commit the trivial fix in it?  It's just one line, and it
makes AvanceLogic-100 soundcards work again.

On a related note (unfortunately I don't have a fix for this):
The ALS-100 cards have a volume problem with newpcm.  They're
much too soft.  Even if I push the mixer settings all the way
to 100%, I have to turn the volume on the amplifier very high,
which results in a lot of static and noise.  I can literally
hear every disk access and window movement through the
speakers.  It's horrible.  :-(

That did not happen with Luigi's "oldpcm":  I could keep the
amplifier at a moderate level, and the mixer was at about 60%
to get decent audio playback -- no static, no noise.  Same
machine, same soundcard.  Is this a known problem?  I didn't
find anything in the PR DB, so I should probably submit a PR
about this.

Regards
   Oliver

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On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Oliver Fromme wrote:
> By the way, _why_ is ssh in the base system now, and what is wrong
> with having it in the ports?  I'm sorry if there was a "HEADS UP" on
> this list, then I must have missed it.

I keep asking myself this question; a default sysinstall package would
give us the same end result.

I'm building with NO_OPENSSL and NO_OPENSSH and have still gotten hit with
breakage.

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Okay, these patches were sufficient to allow me to build world with
NO_OPENSSL defined. I'd like to commit these ASAP.

After the release, I want to look at condensing the mass of
.if defined(...) options we have, at least with respect to crypto. At the
moment we have to test everywhere for things like

.if !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(NOSECURE) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL) &&
defined(MAKE_KERBEROS4)

when all we really want to know is whether or not OpenSSL is available to
be linked with.

In addition to normalizing all of the NO* options to NO_* (or other way
round if I get shouted down :), they should obey the correct covering
hierarchy automatically so we don't have to explicitly test for all the
covering options in each instance. For example, NO_CRYPT should imply
NO_OPENSSL, which in turn implies NO_OPENSSH, etc. NOSECURE should be
removed since it's nonfunctional. NO_CRYPT or NO_OPENSSL should conflict
with MAKE_KERBEROS?, etc.

Kris

Index: Makefile.inc1
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/Makefile.inc1,v
retrieving revision 1.140
diff -u -r1.140 Makefile.inc1
--- Makefile.inc1	2000/02/28 21:04:38	1.140
+++ Makefile.inc1	2000/03/05 22:32:04
@@ -57,11 +57,11 @@
 SUBDIR+= gnu
 .endif
 .if exists(${.CURDIR}/kerberosIV) && exists(${.CURDIR}/crypto) && \
-    !defined(NOCRYPT) && defined(MAKE_KERBEROS4)
+    !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL) && defined(MAKE_KERBEROS4)
 SUBDIR+= kerberosIV
 .endif
 .if exists(${.CURDIR}/kerberos5) && exists(${.CURDIR}/crypto) && \
-    !defined(NOCRYPT) && defined(MAKE_KERBEROS5)
+    !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL) && defined(MAKE_KERBEROS5)
 SUBDIR+= kerberos5
 .endif
 .if exists(${.CURDIR}/libexec)
@@ -203,7 +203,7 @@
 # success, regardless of how old your existing system is.
 #
 buildworld:
-.if !defined(NOSECURE) && exists(${.CURDIR}/secure) && \
+.if !defined(NOSECURE) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL) && exists(${.CURDIR}/secure) && \
 	(!defined(USA_RESIDENT) || (${USA_RESIDENT} != NO && \
 	${USA_RESIDENT} != YES))
 	@echo
Index: lib/Makefile
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.106
diff -u -r1.106 Makefile
--- lib/Makefile	2000/01/21 02:00:53	1.106
+++ lib/Makefile	2000/02/27 00:21:50
@@ -43,7 +43,7 @@
 .endif
 
 _libcrypt=	libcrypt
-.if exists(${.CURDIR}/../secure) && !defined(NOSECURE) && !defined(NOCRYPT)
+.if exists(${.CURDIR}/../secure) && !defined(NOSECURE) && !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(NO_DESCRYPT)
 # Build both libraries. They have different names, so no harm,
 # and this avoids having stale libscrypt.*
 _libcrypt+=	../secure/lib/libcrypt
Index: lib/libpam/libpam/Makefile
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/libpam/libpam/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.11
diff -u -r1.11 Makefile
--- lib/libpam/libpam/Makefile	2000/02/28 21:00:48	1.11
+++ lib/libpam/libpam/Makefile	2000/03/05 22:32:04
@@ -62,16 +62,16 @@
 # Static PAM modules:
 STATIC_MODULES+= ${MODOBJDIR}/pam_cleartext_pass_ok/libpam_cleartext_pass_ok.a
 STATIC_MODULES+= ${MODOBJDIR}/pam_deny/libpam_deny.a
-.if defined(MAKE_KERBEROS4) && !defined(NOCRYPT)
+.if defined(MAKE_KERBEROS4) && !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL)
 STATIC_MODULES+= ${MODOBJDIR}/pam_kerberosIV/libpam_kerberosIV.a
 .endif
-.if defined(MAKE_KERBEROS5__) && !defined(NOCRYPT)
+.if defined(MAKE_KERBEROS5__) && !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL)
 STATIC_MODULES+= ${MODOBJDIR}/pam_kerberos5/libpam_kerberos5.a
 .endif
 STATIC_MODULES+= ${MODOBJDIR}/pam_permit/libpam_permit.a
 STATIC_MODULES+= ${MODOBJDIR}/pam_radius/libpam_radius.a
 STATIC_MODULES+= ${MODOBJDIR}/pam_skey/libpam_skey.a
-.if exists(${.CURDIR}/../../../crypto/openssh) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL)
+.if exists(${.CURDIR}/../../../crypto/openssh) && !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL)
 STATIC_MODULES+= ${MODOBJDIR}/pam_ssh/libpam_ssh.a
 .endif
 STATIC_MODULES+= ${MODOBJDIR}/pam_tacplus/libpam_tacplus.a
Index: lib/libpam/modules/Makefile
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/libpam/modules/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.7
diff -u -r1.7 Makefile
--- lib/libpam/modules/Makefile	2000/02/28 21:00:50	1.7
+++ lib/libpam/modules/Makefile	2000/03/05 22:32:04
@@ -26,16 +26,16 @@
 
 SUBDIR+=	pam_cleartext_pass_ok
 SUBDIR+=	pam_deny
-.if defined(MAKE_KERBEROS4) && !defined(NOCRYPT)
+.if defined(MAKE_KERBEROS4) && !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL)
 SUBDIR+=	pam_kerberosIV
 .endif
-.if defined(MAKE_KERBEROS5__) && !defined(NOCRYPT)
+.if defined(MAKE_KERBEROS5__) && !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL)
 SUBDIR+=	pam_kerberos5
 .endif
 SUBDIR+=	pam_permit
 SUBDIR+=	pam_radius
 SUBDIR+=	pam_skey
-.if exists(${.CURDIR}/../../../crypto/openssh) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL)
+.if exists(${.CURDIR}/../../../crypto/openssh) && !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL)
 SUBDIR+=	pam_ssh
 .endif
 SUBDIR+=	pam_tacplus
Index: secure/usr.bin/Makefile
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/secure/usr.bin/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.13
diff -u -r1.13 Makefile
--- secure/usr.bin/Makefile	2000/02/24 18:59:33	1.13
+++ secure/usr.bin/Makefile	2000/03/05 22:36:02
@@ -1,14 +1,14 @@
 # $FreeBSD: src/secure/usr.bin/Makefile,v 1.13 2000/02/24 18:59:33 markm Exp $
 
 SUBDIR= bdes
-.if !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(MAKE_KERBEROS4) && !defined(MAKE_KERBEROS5)
+.if !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL) && !defined(MAKE_KERBEROS4) && !defined(MAKE_KERBEROS5)
 SUBDIR+=telnet
 .endif
 .if !defined(NO_OPENSSL)
 SUBDIR+=openssl
-.endif
 .if !defined(NO_OPENSSH)
 SUBDIR+=scp ssh ssh-add ssh-agent ssh-keygen
+.endif
 .endif
 
 .include <bsd.subdir.mk>
Index: usr.bin/passwd/Makefile
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.bin/passwd/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.39
diff -u -r1.39 Makefile
--- usr.bin/passwd/Makefile	2000/02/24 21:06:16	1.39
+++ usr.bin/passwd/Makefile	2000/03/05 22:35:04
@@ -79,7 +79,7 @@
 LINKS=${BINDIR}/passwd ${BINDIR}/yppasswd
 MLINKS=passwd.1 yppasswd.1
 
-.if exists(${DESTDIR}${LIBDIR}/libkrb.a) && (defined(MAKE_KERBEROS4))
+.if exists(${DESTDIR}${LIBDIR}/libkrb.a) && !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL) && defined(MAKE_KERBEROS4)
 SRCS+=	kpasswd_standalone.c
 .PATH:	${.CURDIR}/../../usr.bin/chpass ${.CURDIR}/../../usr.sbin/vipw \
 	${.CURDIR}/../../usr.bin/rlogin ${.CURDIR}/../../usr.bin/passwd \
Index: usr.bin/rlogin/Makefile
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.bin/rlogin/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.20
diff -u -r1.20 Makefile
--- usr.bin/rlogin/Makefile	2000/02/24 21:06:17	1.20
+++ usr.bin/rlogin/Makefile	2000/03/05 22:32:04
@@ -9,7 +9,7 @@
 BINMODE=4555
 INSTALLFLAGS=-fschg
 
-.if exists(${DESTDIR}${LIBDIR}/libkrb.a) && defined(MAKE_KERBEROS4)
+.if exists(${DESTDIR}${LIBDIR}/libkrb.a) && defined(MAKE_KERBEROS4) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL) && !defined(NOCRYPT)
 SRCS+=	krcmd.c kcmd.c rcmd_util.c
 DPADD=	${LIBUTIL} ${LIBKRB} ${LIBCRYPTO} ${LIBCRYPT} ${LIBCOM_ERR}
 CFLAGS+=-DKERBEROS -DCRYPT -DHAVE_CONFIG_H \
Index: usr.bin/rsh/Makefile
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.bin/rsh/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.16
diff -u -r1.16 Makefile
--- usr.bin/rsh/Makefile	2000/02/24 21:06:19	1.16
+++ usr.bin/rsh/Makefile	2000/03/05 22:32:04
@@ -6,7 +6,7 @@
 CFLAGS+=-Wall
 CFLAGS+=-I${.CURDIR}/../../libexec/rlogind
 
-.if exists(${DESTDIR}${LIBDIR}/libkrb.a) && defined(MAKE_KERBEROS4)
+.if exists(${DESTDIR}${LIBDIR}/libkrb.a) && defined(MAKE_KERBEROS4) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL) && !defined(NOCRYPT)
 SRCS+=	krcmd.c kcmd.c rcmd_util.c
 CFLAGS+=-DKERBEROS -DCRYPT -DHAVE_CONFIG_H \
 	-I${.CURDIR}/../rlogin -I${.CURDIR} -I- \
Index: usr.sbin/ppp/Makefile
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/ppp/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.71
diff -u -r1.71 Makefile
--- usr.sbin/ppp/Makefile	2000/02/29 11:44:18	1.71
+++ usr.sbin/ppp/Makefile	2000/03/05 22:32:04
@@ -33,7 +33,7 @@
 .endif
 .endif
 
-.if exists(${.CURDIR}/../../secure) && !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(NOSECURE) && !defined(RELEASE_CRUNCH)
+.if exists(${.CURDIR}/../../secure) && !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(NOSECURE) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL) && !defined(RELEASE_CRUNCH)
 DISTRIBUTION=crypto
 CFLAGS+=-DHAVE_DES
 SRCS+=	chap_ms.c
Index: usr.sbin/pppd/Makefile
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/pppd/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.17
diff -u -r1.17 Makefile
--- usr.sbin/pppd/Makefile	2000/02/29 11:45:48	1.17
+++ usr.sbin/pppd/Makefile	2000/03/05 22:32:04
@@ -28,7 +28,7 @@
 DPADD+=	${LIBPCAP}
 
 # MS-CHAP support.  Requires the DES library.
-.if exists(${.CURDIR}/../../secure) && !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(NOSECURE) && !defined(RELEASE_CRUNCH)
+.if exists(${.CURDIR}/../../secure) && !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(NOSECURE) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL) && !defined(RELEASE_CRUNCH)
 DISTRIBUTION=crypto
 CFLAGS+=-DCHAPMS
 SRCS+=	chap_ms.c

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On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Oliver Fromme wrote:

> the ports (yeah, stupid me), to no avail.  It complained about some
> RSA library missing.

Did you read the error message? Perhaps you should. Perhaps reporting it
here would help someone to actually fix your problem instead of having to 
guess.

> PS:  Just in case if it matters, I have USA_RESIDENT=NO in my
> make.conf.

Hmm. Can you try cvsupping your src-crypto and src-secure collections from
another (non-US) cvsup server? One of the mirror sites in germany was
bogusly fetching crypto from the US - I assumed it had been fixed by now
after multiple emails to the maintainer, but perhaps it hasn't. SSH should
work out of the box for International people.

> Apart from my stupidness of not checking the location of the binary
> first -- what did I do wrong, and what's the recommended way of
> handling this?  Am I supposed to rm /usr/bin/ssh each time I install a
> new release or snapshot?  I can't believe that.

Read /etc/defaults/make.conf

> By the way, _why_ is ssh in the base system now, and what is
> wrong with having it in the ports?  I'm sorry if there was a
> "HEADS UP" on this list, then I must have missed it.

Enough people wanted it in the base system - in fact, when the question
was asked about importing it, I don't recall any objections - certainly it
was not a significant opposition.

I'm quite surprised you've missed any discussion of OpenSSH here though,
since it's probably been one of the most discussed topics here for the
past few weeks.

Kris

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Cc: Oliver Fromme <olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de>,
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On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, Matthew N. Dodd wrote:

> I'm building with NO_OPENSSL and NO_OPENSSH and have still gotten hit with
> breakage.

I can't fix this if you don't tell me what it is!

Kris

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On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, Matthew N. Dodd wrote:
> > I'm building with NO_OPENSSL and NO_OPENSSH and have still gotten hit with
> > breakage.
> 
> I can't fix this if you don't tell me what it is!

What?  Nobody else is test compiling with NO_OPENSSL/NO_OPENSSH?

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On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, Matthew N. Dodd wrote:

> > > I'm building with NO_OPENSSL and NO_OPENSSH and have still gotten hit with
> > > breakage.
> > 
> > I can't fix this if you don't tell me what it is!
> 
> What?  Nobody else is test compiling with NO_OPENSSL/NO_OPENSSH?

Your message wasn't clear you were talking about _world_ breakage. If this
is your only problem, see my other message.

Kris

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Subject: pam_ssh is broken! Would someone please review/commit PR 17191?
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It's all contained in the subject.  I've built world with the change
and tested it and it all works fine now.

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Below is a patch for "src/libexec/rtld-elf" which should fix the
assert failures in wine.  I'd appreciate hearing from anybody who
tests this with multithreaded packages such as wine, JDK, Mozilla,
and linuxthreads.

Just a reminder -- be extra careful when messing with the dynamic
linker.  It's easy to paint yourself into a corner if it's broken
badly.  Make a backup copy of your current working dynamic linker
(/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1) before installing the experimental version.
Then if things fall apart you can recover with something like this:

    cd /usr/libexec
    chflags 0 ld-elf.so.1*
    mv ld-elf.so.1.good ld-elf.so.1

Thanks in advance for any testing you folks can make time to do.

John

Index: Makefile
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/libexec/rtld-elf/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.10
diff -u -r1.10 Makefile
--- Makefile	2000/01/29 03:16:54	1.10
+++ Makefile	2000/03/01 02:39:13
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
 #
 MAINTAINER=	jdp
 PROG=		ld-elf.so.1
-SRCS=		rtld_start.S rtld.c lockdflt.c map_object.c malloc.c \
+SRCS=		rtld_start.S rtld.c map_object.c malloc.c \
 		xmalloc.c debug.c reloc.c
 MAN1=		rtld.1
 CFLAGS+=	-Wall -DFREEBSD_ELF -I${.CURDIR}/${MACHINE_ARCH} -I${.CURDIR}
Index: lockdflt.c
===================================================================
RCS file: lockdflt.c
diff -N lockdflt.c
--- /tmp/cvscXuMc22613	Sun Mar  5 17:48:37 2000
+++ /dev/null	Sun Mar  5 02:02:18 2000
@@ -1,89 +0,0 @@
-/*-
- * Copyright 1999, 2000 John D. Polstra.
- * All rights reserved.
- *
- * Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
- * modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions
- * are met:
- * 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
- *    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
- * 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
- *    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
- *    documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
- *
- * THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE AUTHOR ``AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR
- * IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES
- * OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED.
- * IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHOR BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT,
- * INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT
- * NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE,
- * DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY
- * THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT
- * (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF
- * THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.
- *
- * $FreeBSD: src/libexec/rtld-elf/lockdflt.c,v 1.4 2000/01/25 01:32:56 jdp Exp $
- */
-
-/*
- * Default thread locking implementation for the dynamic linker.  It
- * is used until the client registers a different implementation with
- * dllockinit().  The default implementation does mutual exclusion by
- * blocking almost all signals.  This is based on the observation that
- * most userland thread packages use signals to support preemption.
- */
-
-#include <dlfcn.h>
-#include <signal.h>
-#include <stdlib.h>
-
-#include "debug.h"
-#include "rtld.h"
-
-typedef struct Struct_LockDflt {
-    sigset_t lock_mask;
-    sigset_t old_mask;
-    int depth;
-} LockDflt;
-
-void
-lockdflt_acquire(void *lock)
-{
-    LockDflt *l = (LockDflt *)lock;
-    sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, &l->lock_mask, &l->old_mask);
-    assert(l->depth == 0);
-    l->depth++;
-}
-
-void *
-lockdflt_create(void *context)
-{
-    LockDflt *l;
-
-    l = NEW(LockDflt);
-    l->depth = 0;
-    sigfillset(&l->lock_mask);
-    sigdelset(&l->lock_mask, SIGTRAP);
-    sigdelset(&l->lock_mask, SIGABRT);
-    sigdelset(&l->lock_mask, SIGBUS);
-    sigdelset(&l->lock_mask, SIGSEGV);
-    sigdelset(&l->lock_mask, SIGKILL);
-    sigdelset(&l->lock_mask, SIGSTOP);
-    return l;
-}
-
-void
-lockdflt_destroy(void *lock)
-{
-    LockDflt *l = (LockDflt *)lock;
-    free(l);
-}
-
-void
-lockdflt_release(void *lock)
-{
-    LockDflt *l = (LockDflt *)lock;
-    assert(l->depth == 1);
-    l->depth--;
-    sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, &l->old_mask, NULL);
-}
Index: rtld.c
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c,v
retrieving revision 1.43
diff -u -r1.43 rtld.c
--- rtld.c	2000/01/29 01:26:59	1.43
+++ rtld.c	2000/03/06 01:44:11
@@ -61,6 +61,9 @@
 typedef struct Struct_LockInfo {
     void *context;		/* Client context for creating locks */
     void *thelock;		/* The one big lock */
+    /* Debugging aids. */
+    volatile int rcount;	/* Number of readers holding lock */
+    volatile int wcount;	/* Number of writers holding lock */
     /* Methods */
     void (*rlock_acquire)(void *lock);
     void (*wlock_acquire)(void *lock);
@@ -70,6 +73,16 @@
 } LockInfo;
 
 /*
+ * This structure provides a reentrant way to keep a list of objects and
+ * check which ones have already been processed in some way.
+ */
+typedef struct Struct_DoneList {
+    Obj_Entry **objs;			/* Array of object pointers */
+    unsigned int num_alloc;		/* Allocated size of the array */
+    unsigned int num_used;		/* Number of array slots used */
+} DoneList;
+
+/*
  * Function declarations.
  */
 static const char *basename(const char *);
@@ -77,6 +90,7 @@
 static void digest_dynamic(Obj_Entry *);
 static Obj_Entry *digest_phdr(const Elf_Phdr *, int, caddr_t, const char *);
 static Obj_Entry *dlcheck(void *);
+static bool donelist_check(DoneList *, Obj_Entry *);
 static char *find_library(const char *, const Obj_Entry *);
 static void funclist_call(Funclist *);
 static void funclist_clear(Funclist *);
@@ -85,7 +99,7 @@
 static void funclist_push_tail(Funclist *, InitFunc);
 static const char *gethints(void);
 static void init_dag(Obj_Entry *);
-static void init_dag1(Obj_Entry *root, Obj_Entry *obj);
+static void init_dag1(Obj_Entry *root, Obj_Entry *obj, DoneList *);
 static void init_rtld(caddr_t);
 static bool is_exported(const Elf_Sym *);
 static void linkmap_add(Obj_Entry *);
@@ -93,6 +107,7 @@
 static int load_needed_objects(Obj_Entry *);
 static int load_preload_objects(void);
 static Obj_Entry *load_object(char *);
+static void lock_check(void);
 static void lock_nop(void *);
 static Obj_Entry *obj_from_addr(const void *);
 static void objlist_add(Objlist *, Obj_Entry *);
@@ -104,7 +119,7 @@
 static char *search_library_path(const char *, const char *);
 static void set_program_var(const char *, const void *);
 static const Elf_Sym *symlook_list(const char *, unsigned long,
-  Objlist *, const Obj_Entry **, bool in_plt);
+  Objlist *, const Obj_Entry **, bool in_plt, DoneList *);
 static void trace_loaded_objects(Obj_Entry *obj);
 static void unload_object(Obj_Entry *);
 static void unref_dag(Obj_Entry *);
@@ -128,7 +143,7 @@
 static Obj_Entry **obj_tail;	/* Link field of last object in list */
 static Obj_Entry *obj_main;	/* The main program shared object */
 static Obj_Entry obj_rtld;	/* The dynamic linker shared object */
-static unsigned long curmark;	/* Current mark value */
+static unsigned int obj_count;	/* Number of objects in obj_list */
 
 static Objlist list_global =	/* Objects dlopened with RTLD_GLOBAL */
   STAILQ_HEAD_INITIALIZER(list_global);
@@ -167,21 +182,44 @@
 char *__progname;
 char **environ;
 
+/*
+ * Fill in a DoneList with an allocation large enough to hold all of
+ * the currently-loaded objects.  Keep this as a macro since it calls
+ * alloca and we want that to occur within the scope of the caller.
+ */
+#define donelist_init(dlp)					\
+    ((dlp)->objs = alloca(obj_count * sizeof (dlp)->objs[0]),	\
+    assert((dlp)->objs != NULL),				\
+    (dlp)->num_alloc = obj_count,				\
+    (dlp)->num_used = 0)
+
 static __inline void
 rlock_acquire(void)
 {
     lockinfo.rlock_acquire(lockinfo.thelock);
+    atomic_incr_int(&lockinfo.rcount);
+    lock_check();
 }
 
 static __inline void
 wlock_acquire(void)
 {
     lockinfo.wlock_acquire(lockinfo.thelock);
+    atomic_incr_int(&lockinfo.wcount);
+    lock_check();
+}
+
+static __inline void
+rlock_release(void)
+{
+    atomic_decr_int(&lockinfo.rcount);
+    lockinfo.lock_release(lockinfo.thelock);
 }
 
 static __inline void
-lock_release(void)
+wlock_release(void)
 {
+    atomic_decr_int(&lockinfo.wcount);
     lockinfo.lock_release(lockinfo.thelock);
 }
 
@@ -316,6 +354,7 @@
     /* Link the main program into the list of objects. */
     *obj_tail = obj_main;
     obj_tail = &obj_main->next;
+    obj_count++;
     obj_main->refcount++;
 
     /* Initialize a fake symbol for resolving undefined weak references. */
@@ -366,7 +405,7 @@
     funclist_call(&initlist);
     wlock_acquire();
     funclist_clear(&initlist);
-    lock_release();
+    wlock_release();
 
     dbg("transferring control to program entry point = %p", obj_main->entry);
 
@@ -385,7 +424,7 @@
     Elf_Addr *where;
     Elf_Addr target;
 
-    wlock_acquire();
+    rlock_acquire();
     if (obj->pltrel)
 	rel = (const Elf_Rel *) ((caddr_t) obj->pltrel + reloff);
     else
@@ -403,7 +442,7 @@
       (void *)target, basename(defobj->path));
 
     reloc_jmpslot(where, target);
-    lock_release();
+    rlock_release();
     return target;
 }
 
@@ -671,6 +710,28 @@
 }
 
 /*
+ * If the given object is already in the donelist, return true.  Otherwise
+ * add the object to the list and return false.
+ */
+static bool
+donelist_check(DoneList *dlp, Obj_Entry *obj)
+{
+    unsigned int i;
+
+    for (i = 0;  i < dlp->num_used;  i++)
+	if (dlp->objs[i] == obj)
+	    return true;
+    /*
+     * Our donelist allocation should always be sufficient.  But if a
+     * threads package hasn't set up its locking properly, more shared
+     * objects could have been loaded since we allocated the list.
+     */
+    if (dlp->num_used < dlp->num_alloc)
+	dlp->objs[dlp->num_used++] = obj;
+    return false;
+}
+
+/*
  * Hash function for symbol table lookup.  Don't even think about changing
  * this.  It is specified by the System V ABI.
  */
@@ -741,6 +802,7 @@
 find_symdef(unsigned long symnum, Obj_Entry *refobj,
     const Obj_Entry **defobj_out, bool in_plt)
 {
+    DoneList donelist;
     const Elf_Sym *ref;
     const Elf_Sym *def;
     const Elf_Sym *symp;
@@ -755,11 +817,11 @@
     hash = elf_hash(name);
     def = NULL;
     defobj = NULL;
-    curmark++;
+    donelist_init(&donelist);
 
-    if (refobj->symbolic) {	/* Look first in the referencing object */
+    /* Look first in the referencing object if linked symbolically. */
+    if (refobj->symbolic && !donelist_check(&donelist, refobj)) {
 	symp = symlook_obj(name, hash, refobj, in_plt);
-	refobj->mark = curmark;
 	if (symp != NULL) {
 	    def = symp;
 	    defobj = refobj;
@@ -768,7 +830,7 @@
 
     /* Search all objects loaded at program start up. */
     if (def == NULL || ELF_ST_BIND(def->st_info) == STB_WEAK) {
-	symp = symlook_list(name, hash, &list_main, &obj, in_plt);
+	symp = symlook_list(name, hash, &list_main, &obj, in_plt, &donelist);
 	if (symp != NULL &&
 	  (def == NULL || ELF_ST_BIND(symp->st_info) != STB_WEAK)) {
 	    def = symp;
@@ -780,7 +842,8 @@
     STAILQ_FOREACH(elm, &refobj->dldags, link) {
 	if (def != NULL && ELF_ST_BIND(def->st_info) != STB_WEAK)
 	    break;
-	symp = symlook_list(name, hash, &elm->obj->dagmembers, &obj, in_plt);
+	symp = symlook_list(name, hash, &elm->obj->dagmembers, &obj, in_plt,
+	  &donelist);
 	if (symp != NULL &&
 	  (def == NULL || ELF_ST_BIND(symp->st_info) != STB_WEAK)) {
 	    def = symp;
@@ -790,7 +853,7 @@
 
     /* Search all RTLD_GLOBAL objects. */
     if (def == NULL || ELF_ST_BIND(def->st_info) == STB_WEAK) {
-	symp = symlook_list(name, hash, &list_global, &obj, in_plt);
+	symp = symlook_list(name, hash, &list_global, &obj, in_plt, &donelist);
 	if (symp != NULL &&
 	  (def == NULL || ELF_ST_BIND(symp->st_info) != STB_WEAK)) {
 	    def = symp;
@@ -919,23 +982,24 @@
 static void
 init_dag(Obj_Entry *root)
 {
-    curmark++;
-    init_dag1(root, root);
+    DoneList donelist;
+
+    donelist_init(&donelist);
+    init_dag1(root, root, &donelist);
 }
 
 static void
-init_dag1(Obj_Entry *root, Obj_Entry *obj)
+init_dag1(Obj_Entry *root, Obj_Entry *obj, DoneList *dlp)
 {
     const Needed_Entry *needed;
 
-    if (obj->mark == curmark)
+    if (donelist_check(dlp, obj))
 	return;
-    obj->mark = curmark;
     objlist_add(&obj->dldags, root);
     objlist_add(&root->dagmembers, obj);
     for (needed = obj->needed;  needed != NULL;  needed = needed->next)
 	if (needed->obj != NULL)
-	    init_dag1(root, needed->obj);
+	    init_dag1(root, needed->obj, dlp);
 }
 
 /*
@@ -971,6 +1035,7 @@
 	 */
 	obj_list = &obj_rtld;
 	obj_tail = &obj_rtld.next;
+	obj_count = 1;
 
 	relocate_objects(&obj_rtld, true);
     }
@@ -978,6 +1043,7 @@
     /* Make the object list empty again. */
     obj_list = NULL;
     obj_tail = &obj_list;
+    obj_count = 0;
 
     /* Replace the path with a dynamically allocated copy. */
     obj_rtld.path = xstrdup(obj_rtld.path);
@@ -1118,6 +1184,7 @@
 
 	*obj_tail = obj;
 	obj_tail = &obj->next;
+	obj_count++;
 	linkmap_add(obj);	/* for GDB */
 
 	dbg("  %p .. %p: %s", obj->mapbase,
@@ -1131,6 +1198,26 @@
     return obj;
 }
 
+/*
+ * Check for locking violations and die if one is found.
+ */
+static void
+lock_check(void)
+{
+    int rcount, wcount;
+
+    rcount = lockinfo.rcount;
+    wcount = lockinfo.wcount;
+    assert(rcount >= 0);
+    assert(wcount >= 0);
+    if (wcount > 1 || (wcount != 0 && rcount != 0)) {
+	_rtld_error("Application locking error: %d readers and %d writers"
+	  " in dynamic linker.  See DLLOCKINIT(3) in manual pages.",
+	  rcount, wcount);
+	die();
+    }
+}
+
 static void
 lock_nop(void *lock)
 {
@@ -1317,7 +1404,7 @@
     wlock_acquire();
     root = dlcheck(handle);
     if (root == NULL) {
-	lock_release();
+	wlock_release();
 	return -1;
     }
 
@@ -1336,7 +1423,7 @@
 	    if (obj->refcount == 0 && obj->fini != NULL)
 		funclist_push_tail(&finilist, obj->fini);
 
-	lock_release();
+	wlock_release();
 	funclist_call(&finilist);
 	wlock_acquire();
 	funclist_clear(&finilist);
@@ -1346,7 +1433,7 @@
 	unload_object(root);
 	GDB_STATE(RT_CONSISTENT);
     }
-    lock_release();
+    wlock_release();
     return 0;
 }
 
@@ -1373,10 +1460,8 @@
     if (lock_create == NULL) {
 	is_dflt = true;
 	context = NULL;
-	lock_create = lockdflt_create;
-	rlock_acquire = wlock_acquire = lockdflt_acquire;
-	lock_release = lockdflt_release;
-	lock_destroy = lockdflt_destroy;
+	rlock_acquire = wlock_acquire = lock_release = lock_nop;
+	lock_destroy = NULL;
 	context_destroy = NULL;
     }
 
@@ -1394,17 +1479,15 @@
     /*
      * Make sure the shared objects containing the locking methods are
      * fully bound, to avoid infinite recursion when they are called
-     * from the lazy binding code.
+     * from the lazy binding code.  Then allocate the lock we will use.
      */
     if (!is_dflt) {
 	prebind((void *)rlock_acquire);
 	prebind((void *)wlock_acquire);
 	prebind((void *)lock_release);
+	lockinfo.thelock = lock_create(lockinfo.context);
     }
 
-    /* Allocate our lock. */
-    lockinfo.thelock = lock_create(lockinfo.context);
-
     /* Record the new method information. */
     lockinfo.context = context;
     lockinfo.rlock_acquire = rlock_acquire;
@@ -1482,11 +1565,11 @@
     GDB_STATE(RT_CONSISTENT);
 
     /* Call the init functions with no locks held. */
-    lock_release();
+    wlock_release();
     funclist_call(&initlist);
     wlock_acquire();
     funclist_clear(&initlist);
-    lock_release();
+    wlock_release();
     return obj;
 }
 
@@ -1502,14 +1585,14 @@
     def = NULL;
     defobj = NULL;
 
-    wlock_acquire();
+    rlock_acquire();
     if (handle == NULL || handle == RTLD_NEXT) {
 	void *retaddr;
 
 	retaddr = __builtin_return_address(0);	/* __GNUC__ only */
 	if ((obj = obj_from_addr(retaddr)) == NULL) {
 	    _rtld_error("Cannot determine caller's shared object");
-	    lock_release();
+	    rlock_release();
 	    return NULL;
 	}
 	if (handle == NULL) {	/* Just the caller's shared object. */
@@ -1525,14 +1608,17 @@
 	}
     } else {
 	if ((obj = dlcheck(handle)) == NULL) {
-	    lock_release();
+	    rlock_release();
 	    return NULL;
 	}
 
 	if (obj->mainprog) {
+	    DoneList donelist;
+
 	    /* Search main program and all libraries loaded by it. */
-	    curmark++;
-	    def = symlook_list(name, hash, &list_main, &defobj, true);
+	    donelist_init(&donelist);
+	    def = symlook_list(name, hash, &list_main, &defobj, true,
+	      &donelist);
 	} else {
 	    /*
 	     * XXX - This isn't correct.  The search should include the whole
@@ -1544,12 +1630,12 @@
     }
 
     if (def != NULL) {
-	lock_release();
+	rlock_release();
 	return defobj->relocbase + def->st_value;
     }
 
     _rtld_error("Undefined symbol \"%s\"", name);
-    lock_release();
+    rlock_release();
     return NULL;
 }
 
@@ -1561,11 +1647,11 @@
     void *symbol_addr;
     unsigned long symoffset;
     
-    wlock_acquire();
+    rlock_acquire();
     obj = obj_from_addr(addr);
     if (obj == NULL) {
         _rtld_error("No shared object contains address");
-	lock_release();
+	rlock_release();
         return 0;
     }
     info->dli_fname = obj->path;
@@ -1604,7 +1690,7 @@
         if (info->dli_saddr == addr)
             break;
     }
-    lock_release();
+    rlock_release();
     return 1;
 }
 
@@ -1695,7 +1781,7 @@
 
 static const Elf_Sym *
 symlook_list(const char *name, unsigned long hash, Objlist *objlist,
-  const Obj_Entry **defobj_out, bool in_plt)
+  const Obj_Entry **defobj_out, bool in_plt, DoneList *dlp)
 {
     const Elf_Sym *symp;
     const Elf_Sym *def;
@@ -1705,9 +1791,8 @@
     def = NULL;
     defobj = NULL;
     STAILQ_FOREACH(elm, objlist, link) {
-	if (elm->obj->mark == curmark)
+	if (donelist_check(dlp, elm->obj))
 	    continue;
-	elm->obj->mark = curmark;
 	if ((symp = symlook_obj(name, hash, elm->obj, in_plt)) != NULL) {
 	    if (def == NULL || ELF_ST_BIND(symp->st_info) != STB_WEAK) {
 		def = symp;
@@ -1877,6 +1962,7 @@
 	    munmap(obj->mapbase, obj->mapsize);
 	    linkmap_delete(obj);
 	    *linkp = obj->next;
+	    obj_count--;
 	    obj_free(obj);
 	} else
 	    linkp = &obj->next;
Index: rtld.h
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.h,v
retrieving revision 1.15
diff -u -r1.15 rtld.h
--- rtld.h	2000/01/29 01:26:59	1.15
+++ rtld.h	2000/03/01 02:39:27
@@ -149,7 +149,6 @@
     Objlist dagmembers;		/* DAG has these members (%) */
     dev_t dev;			/* Object's filesystem's device */
     ino_t ino;			/* Object's inode number */
-    unsigned long mark;		/* Set to "curmark" to avoid repeat visits */
 } Obj_Entry;
 
 #define RTLD_MAGIC	0xd550b87a
@@ -170,10 +169,6 @@
 const Elf_Sym *find_symdef(unsigned long, Obj_Entry *, const Obj_Entry **,
   bool);
 void init_pltgot(Obj_Entry *);
-void lockdflt_acquire(void *);
-void *lockdflt_create(void *);
-void lockdflt_destroy(void *);
-void lockdflt_release(void *);
 void obj_free(Obj_Entry *);
 Obj_Entry *obj_new(void);
 int reloc_non_plt(Obj_Entry *, Obj_Entry *);
Index: alpha/rtld_machdep.h
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/libexec/rtld-elf/alpha/rtld_machdep.h,v
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -r1.3 rtld_machdep.h
--- alpha/rtld_machdep.h	1999/08/28 00:10:13	1.3
+++ alpha/rtld_machdep.h	2000/03/06 01:37:22
@@ -34,4 +34,8 @@
 
 void reloc_jmpslot(Elf_Addr *, Elf_Addr);
 
+/* Atomically increment / decrement an int. */
+void atomic_incr_int(volatile int *);
+void atomic_decr_int(volatile int *);
+
 #endif
Index: alpha/rtld_start.S
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/libexec/rtld-elf/alpha/rtld_start.S,v
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -r1.3 rtld_start.S
--- alpha/rtld_start.S	1999/08/28 00:10:13	1.3
+++ alpha/rtld_start.S	2000/03/06 01:37:58
@@ -166,6 +166,24 @@
 	jmp     $31, ($27)
 	.end _rtld_bind_start
  
+/* Atomically increment an int. */
+LEAF(atomic_incr_int, 1)
+0:	ldl_l	t0, 0(a0)
+	addq	t0, 1, t0
+	stl_c	t0, 0(a0)
+	beq	t0, 1f
+	mb
+	RET
+1:	br	0b
+	END(atomic_incr_int)
 
-
-
+/* Atomically decrement an int. */
+LEAF(atomic_decr_int, 1)
+0:	ldl_l	t0, 0(a0)
+	subq	t0, 1, t0
+	stl_c	t0, 0(a0)
+	beq	t0, 1f
+	mb
+	RET
+1:	br	0b
+	END(atomic_decr_int)
Index: i386/rtld_machdep.h
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/libexec/rtld-elf/i386/rtld_machdep.h,v
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -r1.3 rtld_machdep.h
--- i386/rtld_machdep.h	1999/08/28 00:10:14	1.3
+++ i386/rtld_machdep.h	2000/03/06 01:40:47
@@ -41,4 +41,18 @@
 	(*(Elf_Addr *)(where) = (Elf_Addr)(target));	\
     } while (0)
 
+/* Atomically increment / decrement an int. */
+
+static __inline void
+atomic_incr_int(volatile int *p)
+{
+    __asm __volatile("lock; incl %0" : "=m" (*p) : "0" (*p));
+}
+
+static __inline void
+atomic_decr_int(volatile int *p)
+{
+    __asm __volatile("lock; decl %0" : "=m" (*p) : "0" (*p));
+}
+
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The only minor problem I see is that your game port is detected twice.  Other
than that, the hardware is detected correctly.  You have asked for help, but
what problem(s) are you seeing?

I believe to get everything currently support on the AWE64, your config file
should look like this:

device pcm
device sbc
device joy

There is no support for the wave table part of the card at this time.

Jim Bloom
bloom@acm.org

Chris Wasser wrote:
> 
> Hi all, hate to post something this insignificant to the mailing list, but
> I've search the entire src tree with no luck in resolving this myself
> (well, grepping for awe64,wavetable,game .. found the AWE64 define in
> /usr/src/sys/dev/sound/isa/sbc.c easily enough) .. I'm sure it's due to
> some braindeadness on my behalf, but I'd sure appriciate someone steering
> me in the right direction on this. I also searched for the
> matching/compatible ID strings, no luck.
> 
> Hopefully I provided enough information here...
> 
> FreeBSD area51.v-wave.com 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #1: Sun Mar  5
> 12:02:16 MST 2000     root@area51.v-wave.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/AREA51
> i386
> 
> (cvsupped today -- well, at time of this posting.)
> 
> joy0 at port 0x201 on isa0
> sbc0: <Creative SB AWE64> at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq
> 5 drq 1,5 on isa0
> sbc0: setting card to irq 5, drq 1, 5
> pcm0: <SB DSP 4.16> on sbc0
> joy1: <Generic PnP Joystick> at port 0x208-0x20f on isa0
> unknown0: <WaveTable> at port 0x620-0x623 on isa0
> 
> Now I tried enabling PNPBIOS in the kernel config, but that just produced
> a screenful of crap [PNP OS is disabled in the BIOS], here are the
> relevant kernel config options (no, I didn't add anything else for sound
> but this):
> 
> [I read somewhere that the PCM driver doesn't support MIDI yet, not sure
> if this is related]
> 
> device          pcm
> device          joy0    at isa? port IO_GAME
> 
> Adding the sbc driver into the config didn't help either, produced the
> same dmesg output as above.
> 
> I didn't use anything from the Voxware drivers like I used to under 3.x, I
> also tried using the pnp directives for userconfig at boot time, but that
> only produced syntax errors [same config I used for 3.x]:
> 
> in /boot/kernel.conf:
> 
> pnp 1 0 os enable irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 5 port0 0x220 port1 0x330 port2 0x388
> pnp 1 1 os disable
> pnp 1 2 os enable port0 0x620 port1 0xa20 port2 0xe20
> pnp 1 3 os disable
> 
> devices in /dev:
> 
> (sh MAKEDEV snd0)
> 
> 0 lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel         6 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/mixer@ -> mixer0
> 0 crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30,   0 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/mixer0
> 0 lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel        10 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/sequencer@ ->
> sequencer0
> 0 crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30,   1 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/sequencer0
> 0 crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30,   2 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/midi0
> 0 lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel         4 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/dsp@ -> dsp0
> 0 crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30,   3 Mar  5 12:43 /dev/dsp0
> 0 lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel         5 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/dspW@ -> dspW0
> 0 crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30,   5 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/dspW0
> 0 lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel         6 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/audio@ -> audio0
> 0 crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30,   4 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/audio0
> 0 crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30,   6 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/sndstat
> 0 lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel         6 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/music@ -> music0
> 0 crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30,   8 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/music0
> 0 lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel         4 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/pss@ -> pss0
> 0 crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30,   9 Feb 24 02:05 /dev/pss0
> 
> /dev/sndstat reports:
> 
> FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Mar  5 2000 12:00:51
> Installed devices:
> pcm0: <SB DSP 4.16> at io 0x220 irq 5 drq 1:5 (1p/1r channels duplex)
> 
> And finally, a pnpinfo dump:
> 
> Checking for Plug-n-Play devices...
> 
> Card assigned CSN #1
> Vendor ID CTL00c3 (0xc3008c0e), Serial Number 0x1fa45429
> PnP Version 1.0, Vendor Version 16
> Device Description: Creative SB AWE64 PnP
> *** Small Vendor Tag Detected
> 
> Logical Device ID: CTL0045 0x45008c0e #0
> Device Description: Audio
> TAG Start DF
> Good Configuration
>     IRQ: 5  - only one type (true/edge)
>     DMA: channel(s) 1
>         8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
>     DMA: channel(s) 5
>         16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode
>     I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x220, alignment 0x1, len 0x10
>         [16-bit addr]
>     I/O Range 0x330 .. 0x330, alignment 0x1, len 0x2
>         [16-bit addr]
>     I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x388, alignment 0x1, len 0x4
>         [16-bit addr]
> TAG Start DF
> Acceptable Configuration
>     IRQ: 5 7 9 10  - only one type (true/edge)
>     DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3
>         8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
>     DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7
>         16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode
>     I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
>         [16-bit addr]
>     I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2
>         [16-bit addr]
>     I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x388, alignment 0x1, len 0x4
>         [16-bit addr]
> TAG Start DF
> Acceptable Configuration
>     IRQ: 5 7 9 10  - only one type (true/edge)
>     DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3
>         8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
>     DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7
>         16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode
>     I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
>         [16-bit addr]
>     I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2
>         [16-bit addr]
> TAG Start DF
> Acceptable Configuration
>     IRQ: 5 7 9 10  - only one type (true/edge)
>     DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3
>         8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
>     DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7
>         16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode
>     I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
>         [16-bit addr]
> TAG Start DF
> Acceptable Configuration
>     IRQ: 5 7 9 10  - only one type (true/edge)
>     DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3
>         8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
>     I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
>         [16-bit addr]
>     I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2
>         [16-bit addr]
>     I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x388, alignment 0x1, len 0x4
>         [16-bit addr]
> TAG Start DF
> Acceptable Configuration
>     IRQ: 5 7 9 10  - only one type (true/edge)
>     DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3
>         8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
>     I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
>         [16-bit addr]
>     I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2
>         [16-bit addr]
> TAG Start DF
> Acceptable Configuration
>     IRQ: 5 7 9 10  - only one type (true/edge)
>     DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3
>         8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
>     I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
>         [16-bit addr]
> TAG Start DF
> Sub-optimal Configuration
>     IRQ: 5 7 9 10  - only one type (true/edge)
>     DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3
>         8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode
>     DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7
>         16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode
>     I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10
>         [16-bit addr]
>     I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x10, len 0x2
>         [16-bit addr]
>     I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x394, alignment 0x4, len 0x4
>         [16-bit addr]
> TAG End DF
> 
> Logical Device ID: CTL7002 0x02708c0e #1
> Compatible Device ID: PNPb02f (2fb0d041)
> Device Description: Game
> TAG Start DF
> Good Configuration
>     I/O Range 0x200 .. 0x200, alignment 0x1, len 0x8
>         [16-bit addr]
> TAG Start DF
> Acceptable Configuration
>     I/O Range 0x200 .. 0x208, alignment 0x8, len 0x8
>         [16-bit addr]
> TAG End DF
> 
> Logical Device ID: CTL0022 0x22008c0e #2
> Device Description: WaveTable
> TAG Start DF
> Good Configuration
>     I/O Range 0x620 .. 0x620, alignment 0x1, len 0x4
>         [16-bit addr]
> TAG Start DF
> Acceptable Configuration
>     I/O Range 0x620 .. 0x680, alignment 0x20, len 0x4
>         [16-bit addr]
> TAG End DF
> *** Small Vendor Tag Detected
> End Tag
> 
> Successfully got 69 resources, 3 logical fdevs
> -- card select # 0x0001
> 
> CSN CTL00c3 (0xc3008c0e), Serial Number 0x1fa45429
> 
> Logical device #0
> IO:  0x0220 0x0220 0x0220 0x0220 0x0220 0x0220 0x0220 0x0220
> IRQ 5 0
> DMA 1 5
> IO range check 0x00 activate 0x01
> 
> Logical device #1
> IO:  0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000
> IRQ 0 0
> DMA 4 4
> IO range check 0x00 activate 0x01
> 
> Logical device #2
> IO:  0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000
> IRQ 0 0
> DMA 4 4
> IO range check 0x00 activate 0x01
> 
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On Mon, 6 Mar 2000 01:22:41 +0100 (CET),
  Oliver Fromme <olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> said:

Oliver> Would someone please (pretty please) have a look at kern/16487
Oliver> and commit the trivial fix in it?  It's just one line, and it
Oliver> makes AvanceLogic-100 soundcards work again.

The logical ID of ALS100 conflicts with the one of CMI8330(mss), so we
also have to check the vendor ID. Could you please give it to me? It
is likely to be 0x00019305. (ALS110 is 0x10019305 and ALS120 is
0x20019305, so...)

-- 
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On Sun, Mar 05, 2000 at 01:35:27PM +0000, Nick Sayer wrote:
> Ah! I found it!
> 
> --- linux_ioctl.h.orig  Mon Feb 28 11:50:23 2000
> +++ linux_ioctl.h       Mon Feb 28 11:24:08 2000
> @@ -32,6 +32,25 @@
>  #define        _LINUX_IOCTL_H_


This patch is fubar'ed.  Your mailer wrapped lines and turned <tab> into
<space>'s.  Can you repost this patch w/o damaging it?


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On Fri, Mar 03, 2000 at 05:40:17PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
> 
> sysinstall doesn't work at all for me.  On three different machines,
> it tells me that it found no disks.  So I can't comment on this.

Every time that happens to me, I just build and install a new sysinstall
on that machine and all of a sudden it works again.  I'm guessing there
is something in the disk code that is sensitive to some structure size or
placement.
 
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On Sun, Mar 05, 2000 at 09:09:02PM -0500, Jim Bloom wrote:
> The only minor problem I see is that your game port is detected twice.  Other
> than that, the hardware is detected correctly.  You have asked for help, but
> what problem(s) are you seeing?

Yeah, I realized that after the fact, thanks however :)

> There is no support for the wave table part of the card at this time.

Ok, that's the answer I was looking for, thought perhaps I was missing
something there. Thanks again. Also, I was reading somewhere that turning
on 3D Stereo Enhancement was simply by turning on a register somewhere (I
forgot the exact explanation) is this possible also with newpcm? I kinda
miss the feature of it. [I know my AWE64 supports it].



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In message <20000305190259.E15849@dragon.nuxi.com> "David O'Brien" writes:
: > sysinstall doesn't work at all for me.  On three different machines,
: > it tells me that it found no disks.  So I can't comment on this.
: 
: Every time that happens to me, I just build and install a new sysinstall
: on that machine and all of a sudden it works again.  I'm guessing there
: is something in the disk code that is sensitive to some structure size or
: placement.

This was on the machine I built it on...

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On 06-Mar-00 Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Oliver Fromme wrote:
> 
>> the ports (yeah, stupid me), to no avail.  It complained about some
>> RSA library missing.
> 
> Did you read the error message? Perhaps you should. Perhaps reporting it
> here would help someone to actually fix your problem instead of having to 
> guess.

I think you've kind of missed the point though, Kris.  How many other people
are going to upgrade only to find that their previously working system is
now broken.  We should at least mention this in UPDATING so people have a
ghost of a chance.

>> Apart from my stupidness of not checking the location of the binary
>> first -- what did I do wrong, and what's the recommended way of
>> handling this?  Am I supposed to rm /usr/bin/ssh each time I install a
>> new release or snapshot?  I can't believe that.
> 
> Read /etc/defaults/make.conf
> 
>> By the way, _why_ is ssh in the base system now, and what is
>> wrong with having it in the ports?  I'm sorry if there was a
>> "HEADS UP" on this list, then I must have missed it.
> 
> Enough people wanted it in the base system - in fact, when the question
> was asked about importing it, I don't recall any objections - certainly it
> was not a significant opposition.

Actually, I don't recall a question.  Rather, I recall Jordan saying that once
openssl had finally been all fixed, we might as well add openssh so it would
be useful.  Had a vote been taken, I would have voted to pull openssl and wait
until after 4.0 to straighten all this out.  From other discussions I've had
several other people I know would have voted the same way.  Thankfully it
is now in a working state for new installs and for upgrades if you sacrafice
the proper animal and dance under a full moon, yada, yada, yada. :)

> I'm quite surprised you've missed any discussion of OpenSSH here though,
> since it's probably been one of the most discussed topics here for the
> past few weeks.
> 
> Kris

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On Fri, Mar 03, 2000 at 12:04:41PM -0800, Matthew Hunt wrote:
> 
> and the "type" builtin is too verbose, saying "which is hashed

    alias which='type -p'


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"Matthew N. Dodd" wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, Matthew N. Dodd wrote:
> > > I'm building with NO_OPENSSL and NO_OPENSSH and have still gotten hit with
> > > breakage.
> >
> > I can't fix this if you don't tell me what it is!
> 
> What?  Nobody else is test compiling with NO_OPENSSL/NO_OPENSSH?

	I am. I found an error, sent it to the list, and Kris came up with a
fix. The whole point of gamma testing the release candidates is that
when people find problems they report them and they get fixed. 

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Actually two.

First, how does one enable TIS/SKEY authorization for ssh?  It appears 
that the frst step would be to add -DSKEY to the Makefile conditional
on something.  Are there other steps?

Second, how does one specify options on the command line?  In ssh
1.2.x, I say ssh -o ForwardX11=yes, but that doesn't work in OpenSSH.
Bug or feature?

Warner


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I was just watching a buildworld happen when I noticed (specifically in
gcc, and a few other places) the following warning several times:

warning: mktemp() possibly used unsafely; consider using mkstemp()

I'm not sure if it's a big deal or not, but in the interests of satisfying
my own interests, I thought I would mention it. If this has been covered
already in this list, then please disregard. Next time I'll capture the
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At 11:23 PM -0500 3/5/00, John Baldwin wrote:
>On 06-Mar-00 Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Oliver Fromme wrote:
> >
> >> the ports (yeah, stupid me), to no avail.  It complained about some
> >> RSA library missing.
> >
> > Did you read the error message? Perhaps you should. Perhaps reporting
> > it here would help someone to actually fix your problem instead
> > of having to guess.
>
>I think you've kind of missed the point though, Kris.  How many other
>people are going to upgrade only to find that their previously working
>system is now broken.  We should at least mention this in UPDATING
>so people have a ghost of a chance.

My guess is that when he said "help someone to actually fix your problem",
his desire was to fix it so people would NOT have a problem updating.
 From the activity on the current list, it's clear that he has been
putting in a lot of hours trying to fix all the various odds and ends
which broke when this went in.  (and yes, there have been a lot of
loose ends, but people have definitely been working on them).

This must have been the most discussed topic on the current mailing
list for the past two weeks, and I (for one) appreciate all the work
people have been doing to get openssh as part of the base system.
It's been a bit bumpy, but it is (IMO) a worthwhile addition for
4.0-release.  I would have been happy to vote for openssh as part
of the base system, even though that means a delay in 4.0-release.


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At 12:17 AM -0700 3/6/00, Chris Wasser wrote:
>I was just watching a buildworld happen when I noticed (specifically
>in gcc, and a few other places) the following warning several times:
>
>warning: mktemp() possibly used unsafely; consider using mkstemp()
>
>I'm not sure if it's a big deal or not, but in the interests of
>satisfying my own interests, I thought I would mention it. If this
>has been covered already in this list, then please disregard. Next
>time I'll capture the entire build process to a file.

This probably has not been discussed a lot on current, but the
freebsd-audit group has been trying to track down and change
all uses of mktemp which might lead to any kind of security
problem.


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>Second, how does one specify options on the command line?  In ssh
>1.2.x, I say ssh -o ForwardX11=yes, but that doesn't work in OpenSSH.
>Bug or feature?

Browsing the source, it looks like "ssh -o 'ForwardX11 yes'" should
work.  Both ssh and openssh define -o as:

       -o 'option'
              Can be used to give options in the format  used  in
              the  config  file.   This  is useful for specifying
              options for which there is no separate command-line
              flag.   The option has the same format as a line in
              the configuration file.

However, ssh allows lines in the configuration file to be of the form
"keyword = arguments" but openssh only allows "keyword arguments".
So you're really running into a difference in configuration file
parsing.  Ugh =)

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Hi guys,

I had an abortive -stable to -current upgrade late last week, despite
following the directions in UPGRADING, the two kernels I built (one
custom, one GENERIC) both froze on me during the reboot process.

I'm a little wary of doing it again like that, because it does take
some time to fix.

So I had an alternative idea.  How about doing the following:

  1.  Download -current boot.flp, mfsroot.flp, fixit.flp, and write to
      floppies

  2.  cd /usr/src && make buildworld

  3.  Reboot from boot/mfsroot.flp

  4.  When prompted, use the fixit floppy to get a shell

  5.  Mount all the fixed disk partitions, and then (assuming they're all
      mounted under /mnt/root)

         cd /mnt/root/usr/src && make DESTDIR=/mnt/root

  6.  Mergemaster

  7.  Build and install a new kernel

This has the added advantage that if there's something in your system
that was OK in -stable, but doesn't work in -current, you're going to 
find out about it before you've done an installworld, and before you've
overwritten a working -stable /kernel, because boot.flp will fail to 
work.

The only problem is that mergemaster assumes it's merging in to /etc,
when that wouldn't be the case here -- mergemaster would need another
config option ($DEST_ETC ?) to specify where to install to.

Can anyone see anything there that's likely not to work?

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In message <v04210113b4e9132e890c@[128.113.24.47]> Garance A Drosihn writes:
: My guess is that when he said "help someone to actually fix your problem",
: his desire was to fix it so people would NOT have a problem updating.

I've added a blurb to UPDATING.

Warner


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Thanks Bill.  I forgot that old versions of ssh were this picky...
OpenSSH inherited this from the 1.2.12 version it started from.

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> On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, Brian Dean wrote:
> 
> > The perl script h2ph does not exit immediately on des.h, it sets it's
> > $Exit value to 1, but continues processing.  If the original poster
> > would check further back in his log file, he'll see:
> 
> Ah, okay. There might be an ordering problem with the des.h symlink being
> created before the openssl/des.h file which it points to. Any ideas,
> Mark?

Don't shortcut make world. The files are correctly added there, and not
if you try to "get clever" :-).

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> Okay, these patches were sufficient to allow me to build world with
> NO_OPENSSL defined. I'd like to commit these ASAP.

No objections.

> After the release, I want to look at condensing the mass of
> .if defined(...) options we have, at least with respect to crypto. At the
> moment we have to test everywhere for things like
> 
> .if !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(NOSECURE) && !defined(NO_OPENSSL) &&
> defined(MAKE_KERBEROS4)
> 
> when all we really want to know is whether or not OpenSSL is available to
> be linked with.
> 
> In addition to normalizing all of the NO* options to NO_* (or other way
> round if I get shouted down :), they should obey the correct covering
> hierarchy automatically so we don't have to explicitly test for all the
> covering options in each instance. For example, NO_CRYPT should imply
> NO_OPENSSL, which in turn implies NO_OPENSSH, etc. NOSECURE should be
> removed since it's nonfunctional. NO_CRYPT or NO_OPENSSL should conflict
> with MAKE_KERBEROS?, etc.

Right. Sounds good!

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-On [20000306 09:25], Garance A Drosihn (drosih@rpi.edu) wrote:
>At 12:17 AM -0700 3/6/00, Chris Wasser wrote:
>>I was just watching a buildworld happen when I noticed (specifically
>>in gcc, and a few other places) the following warning several times:
>>
>>warning: mktemp() possibly used unsafely; consider using mkstemp()
>>
>>I'm not sure if it's a big deal or not, but in the interests of
>>satisfying my own interests, I thought I would mention it. If this
>>has been covered already in this list, then please disregard. Next
>>time I'll capture the entire build process to a file.
>
>This probably has not been discussed a lot on current, but the
>freebsd-audit group has been trying to track down and change
>all uses of mktemp which might lead to any kind of security
>problem.

And in this case those are probably warnings issued by programs from the
contrib directory.

Possible suspects: cvs, groff, etc.

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On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 02:20:35AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:

  : OpenSSH inherited this from the 1.2.12 version it started from.

On a side note: last week, Tatu Ylonen, principal author of SSH, posted a
message on the SSH mailing-list (in the thread about the new SSH2 license)
saying that:

   " OpenSSH is based on my version from back in 1995 or 1996.  The OpenSSH
   " folks have fixed many of the (security) bugs in that version, but not
   " all of them when I last checked.  Some of the problems in SSH1 are
   " very fundamental.
   " 
   " I do not recommend use of OpenSSH (or SSH1 generally, for that matter).


There hasn't been much followup on this. Anybody here who cares to
comment on this? What issues are relevant here and how bad is it?


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I'll second this email...

My computer had been stable all winter (with setiathome runnning full
time) but suddenly come the Australian summer it started freezing.

Not panicing, just totally freezing under load.

I could reproduce it by trying to build the whole of KDE and each time
it was a freeze, never a panic.

Windows 98 was freezing too but I didn't think that was abormal ;/

It turned out to be heat related as the machine is now stable after I
installed a case fan (before I only had the power supply fan and CPU
fan).

I see that the internal case temperature still gets up to about 50 or 51
degrees celcius whereas it was getting to 52 degrees before.

Note that I AM overclocking a Celeron 300a to 450 MHz by running with
a 100 MHz FSB instead of 66 MHz so I suppose I shouldn't be surprised at
the need for better cooling.

As I'd prefer better CPU cooling to the case fan on the grounds of noise,
can people recommend good CPU fans (over the standard Intel retail version
Celeron 300a fan) ?  How about these Peltier (sp ?) cooling devices I have
heard about ?

On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, Dan Papasian wrote:

> 1. Is your computer overclocked?
> 
> 2. Is the computer totally frozen?  (i.e. scroll lock doesn't turn the light on)
> 
> 3. Does similar load crash the box as well?  (try make -j2 world)
> 
> 4. Does it freeze in the same spot?
> 
> 5. Is the computer not responding to pings?
> 
> If you've answered yes to a good amount of these questions, there is a good
> chance that your processor(s) are overheating.  Try improving the airflow to the
> case (But using a household fan isn't recommended due to EMI)
> 
> -Dan Papasian
> <bugg@bugg.strangled.net>
> 
> On Sat, Mar 04, 2000 at 11:50:10PM -0800, Arun Sharma wrote:
> > Compiling Mozilla with make -j 2 got -current to lock up, twice in
> > succession. I'm running a fairly recent snapshot (a week or two old)
> > on a Dual celeron box (BP6) with UDMA66 enabled.
> > 
> > The kernel had DDB enabled. I was running X, but I didn't see any
> > signs of the kernel attempting to get into the debugger.
> > 
> > Has this been fixed ? Is anyone interested in investigating ?
> > I'll post more info if I find anything.
> > 
> > 	-Arun
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Hi,

I have been playing with IPv6 on a few machines and I must say that it
is very easy to get the basic IPv6 configuration on the "endpoints" ie.
machines with just a ethernet connection. Just a line with
'ipv6_enable="YES"' /etc/rc.conf and it is done.

But how do you configure an IPv6 in IPv4 tunnel in rc.conf? I can do it
on the commandline, I'm just trying to figure out how to do it in rc.conf.
I can get the IPv4 part configured with something like this:

gif_interfaces="gif0"
gifconfig_gif0="146.64.84.9 146.64.8.68"

But how/where do you configure the IPv6 part of the tunnel? Do you have to
put it in the network_interfaces= section where the normal IPv4
configuration is done?

Another question, how do you add a default IPv6 route in rc.conf? There is
an ipv6_default_interface= variable, but from the comments it looks like
it is only meant for link local multicast addresses.

John
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At 5:06 PM -0800 2000/3/5, Kris Kennaway wrote:

>  Enough people wanted it in the base system - in fact, when the question
>  was asked about importing it, I don't recall any objections - certainly it
>  was not a significant opposition.

	In fact, there are a lot of us that explicitly *did* want it in 
the base system, and were very glad to see it go in.  I got the 
chance this weekend to personally thank Jordan for making the tough 
decision to delay the release of 4.0 in order to get it in, and I'd 
like to now take this chance to publicly thank Kris and the rest of 
the guys for all their hard work in this area.

	Well done!


	Now, about some of those bugs....  ;-)

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Hi,

> Hi,
> 
> I have been playing with IPv6 on a few machines and I must say that it
> is very easy to get the basic IPv6 configuration on the "endpoints" ie.
> machines with just a ethernet connection. Just a line with
> 'ipv6_enable="YES"' /etc/rc.conf and it is done.

I'm glad to know that is working. :-)

> But how do you configure an IPv6 in IPv4 tunnel in rc.conf? I can do it
> on the commandline, I'm just trying to figure out how to do it in rc.conf.
> I can get the IPv4 part configured with something like this:
> 
> gif_interfaces="gif0"
> gifconfig_gif0="146.64.84.9 146.64.8.68"
>
> But how/where do you configure the IPv6 part of the tunnel? Do you have to
> put it in the network_interfaces= section where the normal IPv4
> configuration is done?

After gif tunnel is configured by the above setup, you can just
use ifconfig to assigne any IPv4 and/or IPv6 addresses to the
gif p2p link.

Such as,
  ifconfig gif0 10.0.0.1 10.0.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0
  ifconfig gif0 inett6 fec0:0:0:1000::1 fec0:0:0:1000::2 prefixlen 64 alias

However, an IPv6 machine already has each IPv6 link local
address on all of its interfaces by default, so it is found
that no more additional IPv6 addr is necessary on p2p links.

When you ping6 on a gif tunnel, you will see replies from IPv6
link local addresses of local machin and remote machine like below.
(if the tunnel is setup correctly on each side.)

  hoge% ping6 ff02::1%gif0
  PING6(56=40+8+8 bytes) fe80::200:eff:fe2e:dfe1 --> ff02::1
  16 bytes from fe80::200:eff:fe2e:dfe1%lo0, icmp_seq=0 hlim=64 time=5.2 ms
  16 bytes from fe80::200:e2ff:fe0d:bd18%gif0, icmp_seq=0 hlim=64 time=22.185 ms(DUP!)
  16 bytes from fe80::200:eff:fe2e:dfe1%lo0, icmp_seq=1 hlim=64 time=8.127 ms
  16 bytes from fe80::200:e2ff:fe0d:bd18%gif0, icmp_seq=1 hlim=64 time=33.705 ms(DUP!)
  ^C
  --- ff02::1%gif0 ping6 statistics ---
  2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, +2 duplicates, 0% packet loss
  round-trip min/avg/max = 5.2/17.304/33.705 ms


If you need to reach other addrs over the tunnel, then,
  -just assigne IPv6 route to the gif tunnel using
   "route add -inet6 xxxx" command.
or
  -enable following lines on each end of machines, and reboot them.
    ipv6_gateway_enable="YES"
    ipv6_router_enable="YES"


If you did update and make world recently, please check
/usr/share/examples/IPv6/USAGE. There will be more detailed info.
A handbook chapter version is now under preparation.


> Another question, how do you add a default IPv6 route in rc.conf? There is
> an ipv6_default_interface= variable, but from the comments it looks like
> it is only meant for link local multicast addresses.

In IPv6, a host's default router is automatically registered
by receiving Router Advertisement messages from routers.
To let routers send Router Advertisement, you need to invoke
rtadvd on your router.

It will be available by enabling the following config line on
the router.

  rtadvd_enable="YES"

If you want to enable it after the reboot, then please invoke
rtadvd as root, and give it list of interface names to which
you want Router Advertisement messages to be sent over.
Such as,

 rtadvd ed0 ed1 ep0 ep1


Wmmm, should rtadvd always be invoked when 'ipv6_gateway_enable="YES" ?


Cheers,
Yoshinobu Inoue


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On 06-Mar-00 Warner Losh wrote:
> In message <v04210113b4e9132e890c@[128.113.24.47]> Garance A Drosihn writes:
>: My guess is that when he said "help someone to actually fix your problem",
>: his desire was to fix it so people would NOT have a problem updating.
> 
> I've added a blurb to UPDATING.
> 
> Warner

Thanks, Warner.

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Warner Losh wrote:
> 
> First, how does one enable TIS/SKEY authorization for ssh?  It appears
> that the frst step would be to add -DSKEY to the Makefile conditional
> on something.  Are there other steps?
> 
Yes, there are other steps.  openssh depends upon functions in the
openbsd libskey that we do not have.  These functions appear to have
been added somewhere between our initial version of skey and openbsd's
as they exist in openbsd's initial version, but not ours.  The skey
support in the openssh port has the exact same problems.

That being said, if there is some demand for this, I could merge
openbsd's libskey into ours and get the skey authentication working.

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John Baldwin wrote:
> 
> On 06-Mar-00 Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Oliver Fromme wrote:
> >
> >> the ports (yeah, stupid me), to no avail.  It complained about some
> >> RSA library missing.
> >
> > Did you read the error message? Perhaps you should. Perhaps reporting it
> > here would help someone to actually fix your problem instead of having to
> > guess.
> 
> I think you've kind of missed the point though, Kris.  How many other people
> are going to upgrade only to find that their previously working system is
> now broken.  We should at least mention this in UPDATING so people have a
> ghost of a chance.
> 

One possible source of breakage is not bringing over the existing server
key.  The key will need to be moved from /usr/local/etc to /etc/ssh. 
Did Warner include this with his changes to UPDATING about openssh in
the base system (which I haven't seen yet).

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Joseph Jacobson wrote:
> 
> VESA is compiled into the kernel.  I don't have a /boot/loader.conf
> file.  Is there any other way for the VESA module to be loaded at boot,
> before /etc/rc runs?  Also, none of the vidcontrol VESA modes work for
> me.  (All this isn't a big deal, but the error message is weird).

Nope. Might be what Mike said. Nowadays, an increasing number of video
cards aren't VESA, or only do VESA with software drivers.

> I didn't express myself very well in the above paragraph. :)  Here is the
> behavior exhibited by my box with apm.  When apm is enabled in the bios,
> and 'apm -e enable' is run, 'halt -p' causes the system to reboot.  'zzz'
> causes the system to hang (unresponsive to keyboard and mouse input).
> (I didn't try all permutations of my apm bios settings with 'zzz' to see
> if I can work around the hang, but I don't think that's the cause).
> Pushing my power button during the hang state caused the system to reboot.
> Also, when apm is enabled, after a regular 'halt' or 'shutdown', pushing
> the power button causes the machine to reset, not turn off.

Might be a apm option thingy. I haven't tweaked this in quite a while,
but... in the past, by default APM 2.0 was _not_ activated, because some
older stuff would crash. The default in the kernel had some flags or
missed some flags that enabled it. Look up GENERIC/LINT, and check for
those flags.

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Hello,

Now that I have several machines running FreeBSD 4.0, I started to
play with IPv6. It's fun! I have plans to set up a v6-over-v4 tunnel
and connect to the 6Bone.

I read /usr/share/examples/IPv6/USAGE, /usr/share/doc/IPv6/IMPLEMENTATION
and some documents at the KAME web site.  However, I still have to figure out
how to assign a not-link-local address (i.e., a site or global address) to
the [unique] Ethernet interface of each host in an automatic manner (from
/etc/rc.conf).  After reading /etc/rc.network6 I concluded that no addresses
apart from the link-local ones are assigned to the interfaces.  I am using
ifconfig manually to do this (BTW, I found that there is no need to specify
"alias").  I am new to IPv6, so maybe I am asking for something with no
sense...

My congratulations to the IPv6 team. Great job!

TIA,
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just a thought, would it be possible to have ls-lR and ls-lR.gz
over there?

it'd make it easier/possible for me to make proper mirror site...


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If memory serves me right, "Jose M. Alcaide" wrote:

> Now that I have several machines running FreeBSD 4.0, I started to
> play with IPv6. It's fun! I have plans to set up a v6-over-v4 tunnel
> and connect to the 6Bone.
> 
> I read /usr/share/examples/IPv6/USAGE, /usr/share/doc/IPv6/IMPLEMENTATION
> and some documents at the KAME web site.  However, I still have to figure out
> how to assign a not-link-local address (i.e., a site or global address) to
> the [unique] Ethernet interface of each host in an automatic manner (from
> /etc/rc.conf).  After reading /etc/rc.network6 I concluded that no addresses
> apart from the link-local ones are assigned to the interfaces.  I am using
> ifconfig manually to do this (BTW, I found that there is no need to specify
> "alias").

/etc/rc.network6 assumes that you'll get your non-link-local address(es)
from your router(s) using rtsol(8).  The router, in turn, needs to be
running something like rtadvd(8).

> I am new to IPv6, so maybe I am asking for something with no
> sense...

IPv6 autoconfiguration is very roughly analogous to using DHCP in the
IPv4 world.  (It's not exactly the same though.  In fact, there exists 
a DHCP for IPv6.)

Hope this helps,

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If memory serves me right, Yoshinobu Inoue wrote:

> If you did update and make world recently, please check
> /usr/share/examples/IPv6/USAGE. There will be more detailed info.
> A handbook chapter version is now under preparation.

That's good to hear.  I was thinking about this a little bit, but I'm 
glad someone (presumably more qualified than me) is doing this.

> Wmmm, should rtadvd always be invoked when 'ipv6_gateway_enable="YES" ?

Hmmm...two things come to mind.  1) What happens if there are two
routers running rtadvd on a single subnet?  2) Are there environments in
which a netadmin might not want to use router advertisements?

I have this fuzzy feeling that always invoking rtadvd on routers might
not be a good idea, but that perhaps making it the default might be good
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Bruce is right that machines expect to learn their prefixes from their
local router; however if you're just playing around you might want to
set it yourself.  The easiest way I've found to do this is to say that
this machine is a router:

# sysctl -w net.inet6.ip6.forwarding=1
net.inet6.ip6.forwarding: 0 -> 1

and then run "prefix" to set a site-local prefix:

# prefix dc0 fec0:0:0:1::
# ifconfig dc0
dc0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
        inet6 fe80::2a0:ccff:fe36:7410%dc0 prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x1
        inet6 fec0::1:2a0:ccff:fe36:7410 prefixlen 64 

Of course, if you have global address space too you can assign that prefix
too.

  Bill


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(Cc'ed to the 6BONE mailing list in the hope that someone there could
answer my question as well)

Speaking of the address allocation, is there a way for an individual to
get a non-local address space (so that all of my machines can get an
unique IPv6 address)?  I've read through the 6BONE website, and it seems
to me that I somehow have to `qualify' in order to get one.  (And the
fact that I just need <10 addresses makes me feel guilty; AFAIK the
minimum allocation unit is 2^64-address block :-p.)

Thank you in advance,
Eugene

On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Bill Fenner wrote:

| Bruce is right that machines expect to learn their prefixes from their
| local router; however if you're just playing around you might want to
| set it yourself.  The easiest way I've found to do this is to say that
| this machine is a router:
| 
| # sysctl -w net.inet6.ip6.forwarding=1
| net.inet6.ip6.forwarding: 0 -> 1
| 
| and then run "prefix" to set a site-local prefix:
| 
| # prefix dc0 fec0:0:0:1::
| # ifconfig dc0
| dc0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
|         inet6 fe80::2a0:ccff:fe36:7410%dc0 prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x1
|         inet6 fec0::1:2a0:ccff:fe36:7410 prefixlen 64 
| 
| Of course, if you have global address space too you can assign that prefix
| too.
| 
|   Bill

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mika ruohotie wrote:
> 
> just a thought, would it be possible to have ls-lR and ls-lR.gz
> over there?

You could just ftp into the server, and at the root directory, do:

ls -lR ls-lR

It will ask you if you want to save to local file ls-lR.  Press y.

- Donn


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Version 2 of the lock manager is ready to be released.  Amitha
says that it passes all of the tests in the suite posted by Drew (thanks
Drew).  A noteable exception to this is on SGI where some lock requests
are never even received from the remote host.  Also DOS sharing is not
yet complete.

On a side note, it would appear that at least some of the problems of the
previous version were in FreeBSD's XDR library.  The xdr_*_int64 routines
do not correctly do network byte order conversions.  Included below is
Amitha's 'hack fix'.

====
My hack fix (this is to /usr/src/lib/libc/xdr/xdr.c) is below. A similar
fix needs to be applied to xdr_int64_t. Note that xdr_opaque takes care of
swapping the bits in the byte.

#define SWAP(a,b,t) t=a;a=b;b=t

bool_t
my_xdr_u_int64_t(xdrs, uint64_p)
        register XDR *xdrs;
        u_int64_t *uint64_p;
{
        u_int64_t x;
        unsigned char* b= &x;
        unsigned char t;

        switch (xdrs->x_op) {

        case XDR_ENCODE:
                SWAP(b[0], b[7], t);
                SWAP(b[1], b[6], t);
                SWAP(b[2], b[5], t);
                SWAP(b[3], b[4], t);
                return (xdr_opaque(xdrs, (caddr_t)uint64_p, sizeof(u_int64_t)))
;

        case XDR_DECODE:
                if (!xdr_opaque(xdrs, (caddr_t)&x, sizeof x)) {
                        return (FALSE);
                }
                SWAP(b[0], b[7], t);
                SWAP(b[1], b[6], t);
                SWAP(b[2], b[5], t);
                SWAP(b[3], b[4], t);
                *uint64_p = x;
                return (TRUE);

        case XDR_FREE:
                return (TRUE);
        }
        return (FALSE);
}

=====

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> > just a thought, would it be possible to have ls-lR and ls-lR.gz
> > over there?
> You could just ftp into the server, and at the root directory, do:
> ls -lR ls-lR
> It will ask you if you want to save to local file ls-lR.  Press y.

yeah, i know. but it's not the same. besides, i would expect the
site not to let me to do that, it could be used as a DoS-attack.

like, most ftp-sites, incliding ftp.freebsd.org, have that file...

> - Donn


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Bill Fenner wrote:
> 
> Bruce is right that machines expect to learn their prefixes from their
> local router; however if you're just playing around you might want to
> set it yourself.  The easiest way I've found to do this is to say that
> this machine is a router:
> 
> # sysctl -w net.inet6.ip6.forwarding=1
> net.inet6.ip6.forwarding: 0 -> 1
> 
> and then run "prefix" to set a site-local prefix:
> 
> # prefix dc0 fec0:0:0:1::
> # ifconfig dc0
> dc0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
>         inet6 fe80::2a0:ccff:fe36:7410%dc0 prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x1
>         inet6 fec0::1:2a0:ccff:fe36:7410 prefixlen 64
> 
> Of course, if you have global address space too you can assign that prefix
> too.
> 


Thanks Bruce and Bill!. I suspected something like this. I read
about IPv6 autoconfiguration, but since I am playing with site-local
addresses and I have no IPv6 router [yet], I wondered about how
to configure the IPv6 site-local address. Well, my problem is
solved, and now I understand IPv6 better.

Thanks again,

-- JMA
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On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 11:29:39AM +0100, Edwin Kremer wrote:

>    " I do not recommend use of OpenSSH (or SSH1 generally, for that matter).
> 
> There hasn't been much followup on this. Anybody here who cares to
> comment on this? What issues are relevant here and how bad is it?

I'm sure he'd much prefer you use the version that puts money in his pocket.

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Eugene,

At 09:00 AM 3/6/2000 -0800, Eugene M. Kim wrote:
>(Cc'ed to the 6BONE mailing list in the hope that someone there could
>answer my question as well)
>
>Speaking of the address allocation, is there a way for an individual to
>get a non-local address space (so that all of my machines can get an
>unique IPv6 address)?  I've read through the 6BONE website, and it seems
>to me that I somehow have to `qualify' in order to get one.  (And the
>fact that I just need <10 addresses makes me feel guilty; AFAIK the
>minimum allocation unit is 2^64-address block :-p.)

IPv6 "sites" own the right-most 80 bits of the 128 bits for local use (you 
know that, just restating for the wide list you have emailed to).

The external routing prefixes are the left-most 48 bits of the 128 and come 
from your IPv6 service provider... normally. These are currently either in 
the 3FFE::/16 or 2001::/16 TLA space.

The exception is for "6to4" prefixes which are in the 2002::/16 TLA space. 
See the I-D:

<http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ngtrans-6to4-03.txt>

Please read, then ask any questions you may have. 6to4 is currently 
supported, and there are relay routers up and running.


Thanks,

Bob



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Bill Fumerola wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 11:29:39AM +0100, Edwin Kremer wrote:
> 
> >    " I do not recommend use of OpenSSH (or SSH1 generally, for that matter)
    .
> > 
> > There hasn't been much followup on this. Anybody here who cares to
> > comment on this? What issues are relevant here and how bad is it?
> 
> I'm sure he'd much prefer you use the version that puts money in his pocket.

To be fair, there *are* weaknesses in the ssh1 protocols.  However, as you
point out, it doesn't change the fact that Tatu Ylonen has a conflict of
interest here.

Cheers,
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On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote:

> I'm quite surprised you've missed any discussion of OpenSSH here though,
> since it's probably been one of the most discussed topics here for the
> past few weeks.
> 

I find it quite a problem that one is supposed to read very long
threads of discussions (which one may not be interested in, does not
have the time for, or cannot understand) in order to find the
information necessary to run and keep up with current without
problems. Or to solve any occuring problems.

I know current is not for those who do not want to read this list as
well as cvs-all.  Nevertheless it may be a good thing if plain facts
and fixes related to problems were posted as separate messages with a
clear subject line and not buried somewhere inside a long thread
(war).

Or a separate list?

The above remarks do not necessarily apply to the OpenSSH discussion
on this list. I did not follow it intensely, as I have had no problems
with ssh. It is something I wanted to write earlier. The quote at the
top was what made me do it now.

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Marc Schneiders wrote:
> =

> I find it quite a problem that one is supposed to read very long
> threads of discussions (which one may not be interested in, does not
> have the time for, or cannot understand) in order to find the
> information necessary to run and keep up with current without
> problems. Or to solve any occuring problems.

In that case, I would just follow -current on muc.lists.freebsd.current, =

or one of the other usenet mirrors.=A0 If you want to reply to something,=
 =

just reply to the person directly, and add current@freebsd.org in your =

cc.=A0 That would be one solution.

[using mozilla's mail reader, so sorry if this looks screwed up]

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This is a bug report for perl from iang@systemics.com,
generated with the help of perlbug 1.26 running under perl 5.00503.


-----------------------------------------------------------------
[Please enter your report here]

Running following program causes "Floating point exception" on
FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE *and* 4.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Feb 29 02:11:52 AST 2000
(but not on Linux "2.3.44 #12 SMP") (all 5.00503)

===8<======8<======8<======8<====
#!/usr/bin/perl

my $packed = "\0\0\xc0\x7f";
print STDERR "len: ", length($packed), " bytes: ", unpack("H*", $packed), "\n";
my $float = unpack("f", $packed);
print STDERR "float done\n";
print STDERR "float: $float\n";

exit 0;
===8<======8<======8<======8<====
hayek$ ./moo.pl
len: 4 bytes: 0000c07f
float done
Floating point exception
hayek$ echo $?
136
hayek$ 
===8<======8<======8<======8<====


[Please do not change anything below this line]
-----------------------------------------------------------------

---
This perlbug was built using Perl 5.00502 - Mon Oct 26 16:01:51 AST 1998
It is being executed now by  Perl 5.00503 - $Date: 1999/05/05 19:42:40 $.

Site configuration information for perl 5.00503:

Configured by markm at $Date: 1999/05/05 19:42:40 $.

Summary of my perl5 (5.0 patchlevel 5 subversion 3) configuration:
  Platform:
    osname=freebsd, osvers=4.0-current, archname=i386-freebsd
    uname='freebsd freefall.freebsd.org 4.0-current freebsd 4.0-current #0: $Date: 1999/05/05 19:42:40 $'
    hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define
    usethreads=undef useperlio=undef d_sfio=undef
  Compiler:
    cc='cc', optimize='undef', gccversion=egcs-2.91.66 19990314 (egcs-1.1.2 release)
    cppflags=''
    ccflags =''
    stdchar='char', d_stdstdio=undef, usevfork=true
    intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8
    d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=12
    alignbytes=4, usemymalloc=n, prototype=define
  Linker and Libraries:
    ld='cc', ldflags ='-Wl,-E'
    libpth=/usr/lib
    libs=-lm -lc -lcrypt
    libc=/usr/lib/libc.so, so=so, useshrplib=true, libperl=libperl.so.3
  Dynamic Linking:
    dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=so, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags=' '
    cccdlflags='-DPIC -fpic', lddlflags='-shared'

Locally applied patches:
    

---
@INC for perl 5.00503:
    /data/ricardo/perl
    /home/iang/src/hayek/ricardo/blib/lib
    /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach
    /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503
    /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-freebsd
    /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005
    .

---
Environment for perl 5.00503:
    HOME=/home/iang
    LANG (unset)
    LD_LIBRARY_PATH (unset)
    LOGDIR (unset)
    PATH=/home/iang/src/hayek/market/cmd:/home/iang/src/hayek/market/bin:/data/ricardo/perl/cmd:/home/iang/src/hayek/ricardo/cmd:/home/iang/bin:/home/iang/cmd:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/java/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/sbin
    PERLLIB=/data/ricardo/perl:/home/iang/src/hayek/ricardo/blib/lib
    PERL_BADLANG (unset)
    SHELL=/usr/local/bin/bash


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This is a bug report for perl from iang@systemics.com,
generated with the help of perlbug 1.26 running under perl 5.00503.


-----------------------------------------------------------------
[Please enter your report here]

Running following program causes "Floating point exception" on
FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE *and* 4.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Feb 29 02:11:52 AST 2000
(but not on Linux "2.3.44 #12 SMP") (all 5.00503)

===8<======8<======8<======8<====
#!/usr/bin/perl

my $packed = "\0\0\xc0\x7f";
print STDERR "len: ", length($packed), " bytes: ", unpack("H*", $packed), "\n";
my $float = unpack("f", $packed);
print STDERR "float done\n";
print STDERR "float: $float\n";

exit 0;
===8<======8<======8<======8<====
hayek$ ./moo.pl
len: 4 bytes: 0000c07f
float done
Floating point exception
hayek$ echo $?
136
hayek$ 
===8<======8<======8<======8<====


[Please do not change anything below this line]
-----------------------------------------------------------------

---
This perlbug was built using Perl 5.00502 - Mon Oct 26 16:01:51 AST 1998
It is being executed now by  Perl 5.00503 - $Date: 1999/05/05 19:42:40 $.

Site configuration information for perl 5.00503:

Configured by markm at $Date: 1999/05/05 19:42:40 $.

Summary of my perl5 (5.0 patchlevel 5 subversion 3) configuration:
  Platform:
    osname=freebsd, osvers=4.0-current, archname=i386-freebsd
    uname='freebsd freefall.freebsd.org 4.0-current freebsd 4.0-current #0: $Date: 1999/05/05 19:42:40 $'
    hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define
    usethreads=undef useperlio=undef d_sfio=undef
  Compiler:
    cc='cc', optimize='undef', gccversion=egcs-2.91.66 19990314 (egcs-1.1.2 release)
    cppflags=''
    ccflags =''
    stdchar='char', d_stdstdio=undef, usevfork=true
    intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8
    d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=12
    alignbytes=4, usemymalloc=n, prototype=define
  Linker and Libraries:
    ld='cc', ldflags ='-Wl,-E'
    libpth=/usr/lib
    libs=-lm -lc -lcrypt
    libc=/usr/lib/libc.so, so=so, useshrplib=true, libperl=libperl.so.3
  Dynamic Linking:
    dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=so, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags=' '
    cccdlflags='-DPIC -fpic', lddlflags='-shared'

Locally applied patches:
    

---
@INC for perl 5.00503:
    /data/ricardo/perl
    /home/iang/src/hayek/ricardo/blib/lib
    /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach
    /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503
    /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-freebsd
    /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005
    .

---
Environment for perl 5.00503:
    HOME=/home/iang
    LANG (unset)
    LD_LIBRARY_PATH (unset)
    LOGDIR (unset)
    PATH=/home/iang/src/hayek/market/cmd:/home/iang/src/hayek/market/bin:/data/ricardo/perl/cmd:/home/iang/src/hayek/ricardo/cmd:/home/iang/bin:/home/iang/cmd:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/java/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/sbin
    PERLLIB=/data/ricardo/perl:/home/iang/src/hayek/ricardo/blib/lib
    PERL_BADLANG (unset)
    SHELL=/usr/local/bin/bash


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That is because FreeBSD correctly traps operations on the value NaN.

Depending on your religion the bug is either in perl itself which
should be more careful about NaN and Inf values, or in the perl
script you supply which does something which is patently bogus,
but nothing which should provoke a FP trap according to IEEE.

I would argue that as long as your perl script doesn't use the NaN
in an operation which IEEE documents as giving a trap ( compare of
two floats for ordered magnitude for instance) then your perl
interpreter shouldn't either.

Poul-Henning

In message <200003061831.OAA74965@systemics.com>, Ian Grigg writes:
>
>This is a bug report for perl from iang@systemics.com,
>generated with the help of perlbug 1.26 running under perl 5.00503.
>
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>[Please enter your report here]
>
>Running following program causes "Floating point exception" on
>FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE *and* 4.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Feb 29 02:11:52 AST 2000
>(but not on Linux "2.3.44 #12 SMP") (all 5.00503)
>
>===8<======8<======8<======8<====
>#!/usr/bin/perl
>
>my $packed = "\0\0\xc0\x7f";
>print STDERR "len: ", length($packed), " bytes: ", unpack("H*", $packed), "\n";
>my $float = unpack("f", $packed);
>print STDERR "float done\n";
>print STDERR "float: $float\n";
>
>exit 0;
>===8<======8<======8<======8<====
>hayek$ ./moo.pl
>len: 4 bytes: 0000c07f
>float done
>Floating point exception
>hayek$ echo $?
>136
>hayek$ 
>===8<======8<======8<======8<====
>
>
>[Please do not change anything below this line]
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>---
>This perlbug was built using Perl 5.00502 - Mon Oct 26 16:01:51 AST 1998
>It is being executed now by  Perl 5.00503 - $Date: 1999/05/05 19:42:40 $.
>
>Site configuration information for perl 5.00503:
>
>Configured by markm at $Date: 1999/05/05 19:42:40 $.
>
>Summary of my perl5 (5.0 patchlevel 5 subversion 3) configuration:
>  Platform:
>    osname=freebsd, osvers=4.0-current, archname=i386-freebsd
>    uname='freebsd freefall.freebsd.org 4.0-current freebsd 4.0-current #0: $Date: 1999/05/05 19:42:40 $'
>    hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define
>    usethreads=undef useperlio=undef d_sfio=undef
>  Compiler:
>    cc='cc', optimize='undef', gccversion=egcs-2.91.66 19990314 (egcs-1.1.2 release)
>    cppflags=''
>    ccflags =''
>    stdchar='char', d_stdstdio=undef, usevfork=true
>    intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8
>    d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=12
>    alignbytes=4, usemymalloc=n, prototype=define
>  Linker and Libraries:
>    ld='cc', ldflags ='-Wl,-E'
>    libpth=/usr/lib
>    libs=-lm -lc -lcrypt
>    libc=/usr/lib/libc.so, so=so, useshrplib=true, libperl=libperl.so.3
>  Dynamic Linking:
>    dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=so, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags=' '
>    cccdlflags='-DPIC -fpic', lddlflags='-shared'
>
>Locally applied patches:
>    
>
>---
>@INC for perl 5.00503:
>    /data/ricardo/perl
>    /home/iang/src/hayek/ricardo/blib/lib
>    /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach
>    /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503
>    /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-freebsd
>    /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005
>    .
>
>---
>Environment for perl 5.00503:
>    HOME=/home/iang
>    LANG (unset)
>    LD_LIBRARY_PATH (unset)
>    LOGDIR (unset)
>    PATH=/home/iang/src/hayek/market/cmd:/home/iang/src/hayek/market/bin:/data/ricardo/perl/cmd:/home/iang/src/hayek/ricardo/cmd:/home/iang/bin:/home/iang/cmd:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/java/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/sbin
>    PERLLIB=/data/ricardo/perl:/home/iang/src/hayek/ricardo/blib/lib
>    PERL_BADLANG (unset)
>    SHELL=/usr/local/bin/bash
>
>
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At 11:29 AM +0100 3/6/00, Edwin Kremer wrote:
>On a side note: last week, Tatu Ylonen, principal author of SSH, posted a
>message on the SSH mailing-list (in the thread about the new SSH2 license)
>saying that:
>
>   " OpenSSH is based on my version from back in 1995 or 1996.  The
>   " OpenSSH folks have fixed many of the (security) bugs in that
>   " version, but not all of them when I last checked.  Some of the
>   " problems in SSH1 are very fundamental.
>   "
>   " I do not recommend use of OpenSSH (or SSH1 generally, for that matter).
>
>There hasn't been much followup on this. Anybody here who cares to
>comment on this? What issues are relevant here and how bad is it?

What he is saying is that the ssh2 protocol is better than the ssh1
protocol, and that is true.  On the other hand, most of us here have
been sticking to ssh1 ("the product") because of licensing and pricing
issues with ssh2, and I'd say openssh either beats or will soon beat
the ssh1 product.

Not only that, but if you check the web page at OpenSSH.COM, you'll
see that they also claim to be working on ssh2 protocols for openssh.
Once that is done, openssh will also have addressed the fundamental
shortcomings of ssh1 that he is alluding to.

Also note that the security shortcomings are that ssh1 is not as
perfectly bullet-proof of a protocol as it could be.  It is certainly
much much much much better, security-wise, than running telnet.


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More on that!

Lads here took this to heart and put the debugger over the code.

Apparently, Linux uses glibc which sets the flags in FPU to ignore
the cmp-NaN fault.  Then, I guess, Perl picks it up and turns it into
NaN.  OTOH, FreeBSD libraries don't do that, and the FPU causes
the cmp-NaN fault to cause a FP exception.

(Recorded 2nd hand, you won't catch me using debuggers.)

> That is because FreeBSD correctly traps operations on the value NaN.
> 
> Depending on your religion the bug is either in perl itself which
> should be more careful about NaN and Inf values, or in the perl
> script you supply which does something which is patently bogus,
> but nothing which should provoke a FP trap according to IEEE.

I don't know much about religion, but this feels like
a Perl bug to me.  I feed a highlevel command a number
I read off the wire, and it blows up.  As I have no
control over the wire (it's a network) I cannot *not*
handle the number.

> I would argue that as long as your perl script doesn't use the NaN
> in an operation which IEEE documents as giving a trap ( compare of
> two floats for ordered magnitude for instance) then your perl
> interpreter shouldn't either.

Well, in that sense, this is my workaround:

	my $data = $is->read(4);
	#
	#       Damn, FreeBSD throws Floating Point Exception on NaN!
	#
	my $long = unpack("N", $data);
	if ($long == 2143289344)
	{
		return "NaN";
	}

So I'm fine with it for now.  But, as Perl is an interpretive
language, and they are supposed to, on some higher plain of
thought, handle everything thrown at them, I'd rather it just
returned "NaN" like Linux.

Still, I'm fixed!  Thanks for the confirmation.

iang


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In message <200003061910.PAA75240@systemics.com>, Ian Grigg writes:

>> Depending on your religion the bug is either in perl itself which
>> should be more careful about NaN and Inf values, or in the perl
>> script you supply which does something which is patently bogus,
>> but nothing which should provoke a FP trap according to IEEE.
>
>I don't know much about religion, but this feels like
>a Perl bug to me.  I feed a highlevel command a number
>I read off the wire, and it blows up.  As I have no
>control over the wire (it's a network) I cannot *not*
>handle the number.

I would agree with that.

>> I would argue that as long as your perl script doesn't use the NaN
>> in an operation which IEEE documents as giving a trap ( compare of
>> two floats for ordered magnitude for instance) then your perl
>> interpreter shouldn't either.
>
>Well, in that sense, this is my workaround:
>
>	my $data = $is->read(4);
>	#
>	#       Damn, FreeBSD throws Floating Point Exception on NaN!
>	#
>	my $long = unpack("N", $data);
>	if ($long == 2143289344)
>	{
>		return "NaN";
>	}

That is not enough, NaN has multiple binary representations.
isnan(3) is your friend.

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Now that openssh is in the base system, I assume it will no longer be in the
ports. How do we update it, ie, when a updated version comes out. I would
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It is rumoured that Arun Sharma had the courage to say:
> Compiling Mozilla with make -j 2 got -current to lock up, twice in
> succession. I'm running a fairly recent snapshot (a week or two old)
> on a Dual celeron box (BP6) with UDMA66 enabled.

Finally. I've been complaining about this on several occasions. I'm also
running UDMA66 and Dual Celeron BP6. No overclocking. 
 
> The kernel had DDB enabled. I was running X, but I didn't see any
> signs of the kernel attempting to get into the debugger.

Ditto here. 
 
> Has this been fixed ? Is anyone interested in investigating ?
> I'll post more info if I find anything.

I'm interested in the fix, of course :-) But where to start looking? I've
had three lockups so far (none before january 2000) but I didn't find
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Hi all, 

I've been bitten by the following: 

44 relativity ~ % chown -v djb:wheel test
chown: illegal option -- v
usage: chown [-R [-H | -L | -P]] [-f] [-h] [-v] owner[:group] file ...
       chown [-R [-H | -L | -P]] [-f] [-h] [-v] :group file ...
       chgrp [-R [-H | -L | -P]] [-f] [-h] [-v] group file ...

Where "test" is an ordinary directory. 

It seems that chown's behavior is inconsistent with both the usage message
and the man page. The same goes for chgrp. 

Regards, 

Dave Boers. 

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I rebuilt -current on Friday, and OpenSSH does not work through a
SOCKS firewall.

In my make.conf, I have "USE_SOCKS= YES", which is used in the
ports/security/ssh port.

Any help?

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> The exception is for "6to4" prefixes which are in the 
> 2002::/16 TLA space. 
> See the I-D:
> 
> <http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ngtrans-6to4-03.txt>
> 
> Please read, then ask any questions you may have. 6to4 is currently 
> supported, and there are relay routers up and running.

To summarize, with 6to4 all you need is one global/static IPv4 address and
you get a /48 IPv6 prefix for yourself.

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* Dave Boers <djb@wit389306.student.utwente.nl> [000306 12:08] wrote:
> Hi all, 
> 
> I've been bitten by the following: 
> 
> 44 relativity ~ % chown -v djb:wheel test
> chown: illegal option -- v
> usage: chown [-R [-H | -L | -P]] [-f] [-h] [-v] owner[:group] file ...
>        chown [-R [-H | -L | -P]] [-f] [-h] [-v] :group file ...
>        chgrp [-R [-H | -L | -P]] [-f] [-h] [-v] group file ...
> 
> Where "test" is an ordinary directory. 
> 
> It seems that chown's behavior is inconsistent with both the usage message
> and the man page. The same goes for chgrp. 

have you deleted your stale copies of chown/chgrp?  hint look in 
/bin /sbin /usr/bin /usr/sbin and make sure the old ones aren't
"in the way".

-Alfred


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* Dave Boers (djb@relativity.student.utwente.nl) [000306 13:36]:
> chown: illegal option -- v
> usage: chown [-R [-H | -L | -P]] [-f] [-h] [-v] owner[:group] file ...
>        chown [-R [-H | -L | -P]] [-f] [-h] [-v] :group file ...
>        chgrp [-R [-H | -L | -P]] [-f] [-h] [-v] group file ...
> 

A simple patch:

--- chown.c.1.14        Sat Nov 27 13:25:07 1999
+++ chown.c     Mon Mar  6 13:42:41 2000
@@ -86,7 +86,7 @@
        ischown = myname[2] == 'o';
 
        Hflag = Lflag = Pflag = hflag = 0;
-       while ((ch = getopt(argc, argv, "HLPRfh")) != -1)
+       while ((ch = getopt(argc, argv, "HLPRfhv")) != -1)
                switch (ch) {
                case 'H':
                        Hflag = 1;
@@ -108,6 +108,9 @@
                        break;
                case 'h':
                        hflag = 1;
+                       break;
+               case 'v':
+                       vflag = 1;
                        break;
                case '?':
                default:

Regards,
-- 
Arindum


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On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 08:27:18PM +0100, Dave Boers wrote:
> > Has this been fixed ? Is anyone interested in investigating ?
> > I'll post more info if I find anything.
> 
> I'm interested in the fix, of course :-) But where to start looking? I've
> had three lockups so far (none before january 2000) but I didn't find
> anything that reliably triggered it. 

The cooling theory sounds the most plausible so far. I'm not over clocking
my CPUs (Celeron 366s) and have appropriate cooling installed. But the
machine is kept in a small room, with a bunch of other machines and gets
a bit warm at times.

There has been no reproducible case of locking up. Each one looks different.
But most were trigerred by heavy compilation and I/O. One was a lockup
overnight with no activity on the system. When it happens, it does not
respond to pings or scroll lock.

If you'd like to do something about it, working on getting a reproducible
hang would be the most beneficial one.

	-Arun


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It is rumoured that Alfred Perlstein had the courage to say:
> have you deleted your stale copies of chown/chgrp?  hint look in 
> /bin /sbin /usr/bin /usr/sbin and make sure the old ones aren't
> "in the way".

Yes I have. Because I got a new disk, I did a fresh install of -current a
few weeks ago. Well after the change of chown/chgrp from /bin and /sbin to
/usr/bin and /usr/sbin. I double checked to make sure and the only versions
of chown/chgrp are the ones in /usr/sbin and /usr/bin respectively. 

Regards, 

Dave Boers. 

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In message <38C3BD54.D169B3D7@acm.org> Jim Bloom writes:
: Did Warner include this with his changes to UPDATING about openssh in
: the base system (which I haven't seen yet).

No.  I didn't, but I will.  Here's my current draft that I'll commit
after a while...

Index: UPDATING
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/imp/FreeBSD/CVS/src/UPDATING,v
retrieving revision 1.71
diff -u -r1.71 UPDATING
--- UPDATING	2000/02/23 05:51:02	1.71
+++ UPDATING	2000/03/06 19:37:45
@@ -5,6 +5,27 @@
 done items, please see the end of the file.  Search for 'COMMON
 ITEMS:'
 
+20000303:
+	CMSG_XXX macros offset in <sys/socket.h> has changed to
+	conform RFC-2292.  All affected applications have been
+	corrected.  The i386 platform's offsets haven't changed, but
+	the alpha's did.  When you build and install new kernel on
+	FreeBSD/alpha, you must also do a make world.
+
+20000225:
+	OpenSSH has been added to FreeBSD.  This may conflict with the
+	ssh port since it installs binaries into /usr/bin and the port
+	goes into /usr/local/bin.  Most paths have /usr/bin in the path
+	before /usr/local/bin, so problems may arrise.  If you don't
+	want OpenSSH, add NO_OPENSSH=yes to your make.conf.
+
+	You will also need to enable openssh in /etc/rc.conf if you
+	want to run the new servers.  You may need to move your key
+	and other config files from /usr/local/etc to /etc.
+
+	Openssh isn't 100% compatible with ssh, so some care needs to
+	be taken in its operation.
+
 20000205:
 	The xinstall problem has kinda sorta been corrected.  The 
 	following is known to work by the author of UPDATING.  It


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It is rumoured that Arun Sharma had the courage to say:
> The cooling theory sounds the most plausible so far. I'm not over clocking
> my CPUs (Celeron 366s) and have appropriate cooling installed. But the
> machine is kept in a small room, with a bunch of other machines and gets
> a bit warm at times.

My system has been 50 degrees Celcius for the past half year or so. Yet,
the lockups only started occurring around January 2000. Once again, my
system is not overclocked and the temperature is well within Intel's and
Abit's temperature specifications, so there shouldn't be hardware problems. 

> There has been no reproducible case of locking up. Each one looks different.
> But most were trigerred by heavy compilation and I/O. One was a lockup
> overnight with no activity on the system. When it happens, it does not
> respond to pings or scroll lock.

Most of my lockups occurred when the system was relatively idle. Mostly
they happened only after 9 - 11 days of uptime. As you say, each one looks
different and there doesn't seem to be a pattern to it. When it locks up,
there is no response to the console, the network or the serial terminal.
Only the reset button is obeyed. I have DDB in my kernel, but there's no
getting into it. Also, no log messages of any kind from just before the
lockups.  

> If you'd like to do something about it, working on getting a reproducible
> hang would be the most beneficial one.

That's what I have been trying to do for the past few weeks, but I can't
seem to trigger it. Uptime is now 2 days and I intend to let it run to 12
or so before make installworld again, to see if I can reproduce it.
However, I did recently change from UDMA66 to an U2W SCSI disk for my main
partitions (/, /usr, /var, /tmp and swap). It may have impact on the
situation and it is the reason for the short uptime. If the problem has
gone away now, it might indicate something with the ATA driver. I'll keep
you informed. So far, since the disk change I've been putting my system
under some heavy load from time to time (like building three large ports
and make -j 12 buildworld at the same time). So far, the system is quite
stable. 

Regards, 

Dave Boers. 

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Warner Losh wrote:
> +       You will also need to enable openssh in /etc/rc.conf if you
> +       want to run the new servers.  You may need to move your key
> +       and other config files from /usr/local/etc to /etc.

Looks fine except config files go in /etc/ssh, not /etc.

Jim Bloom
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On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Warner Losh wrote:

> +	want to run the new servers.  You may need to move your key
> +	and other config files from /usr/local/etc to /etc.

/etc/ssh

> +	Openssh isn't 100% compatible with ssh, so some care needs to
> +	be taken in its operation.

This sounds bad. Are you referring to the -o syntax differences, or actual
incompatabilities? There have been unsubstantiated reports of
interoperability problems, but nothing well documented here.

Kris

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In message <Pine.GSO.4.05.10003061134200.27621-100000@shell1> "James E. Pace" writes:
: I rebuilt -current on Friday, and OpenSSH does not work through a
: SOCKS firewall.
: 
: In my make.conf, I have "USE_SOCKS= YES", which is used in the
: ports/security/ssh port.
: 
: Any help?

Sure.  Here's what I have in my uncommitted tree.  It assumes that you
have socks installed already.  Known to work with the nec port, not
known one way or the other on dante.

Oh, there's lots of warnings from this, but it does work.

Warner

Index: scp/Makefile
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/imp/FreeBSD/CVS/src/secure/usr.bin/scp/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.2 Makefile
--- scp/Makefile	2000/02/25 08:21:09	1.2
+++ scp/Makefile	2000/03/04 06:00:12
@@ -16,3 +16,8 @@
 
 LDADD+=	-lcrypto -lutil -lz -L${.OBJDIR}/../../lib/libssh -lssh
 DPADD+=	${LIBCRYPTO} ${LIBUTIL} ${LIBZ}
+
+.if defined(USE_SOCKS) && ((${USE_SOCKS} == "yes") || (${USE_SOCKS} == "YES"))
+LDADD+= -L/usr/local/lib -lsocks5
+CFLAGS+= -DSOCKS --include /usr/local/include/socks.h
+.endif
Index: ssh/Makefile
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/imp/FreeBSD/CVS/src/secure/usr.bin/ssh/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -r1.4 Makefile
--- ssh/Makefile	2000/03/03 20:33:53	1.4
+++ ssh/Makefile	2000/03/05 05:58:06
@@ -37,3 +37,8 @@
 
 LDADD+=	-L${.OBJDIR}/../../lib/libssh -lssh -lcrypto -lutil -lz
 DPADD+=	${LIBCRYPTO} ${LIBUTIL} ${LIBZ}
+
+.if defined(USE_SOCKS) && ((${USE_SOCKS} == "yes") || (${USE_SOCKS} == "YES"))
+LDADD+= -L/usr/local/lib -lsocks5
+CFLAGS+= -DSOCKS --include /usr/local/include/socks.h
+.endif


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In message <Pine.BSF.4.21.0003061226190.39179-100000@hub.freebsd.org> Kris Kennaway writes:
: On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Warner Losh wrote:
: 
: > +	want to run the new servers.  You may need to move your key
: > +	and other config files from /usr/local/etc to /etc.
: 
: /etc/ssh

Thanks.

: > +	Openssh isn't 100% compatible with ssh, so some care needs to
: > +	be taken in its operation.
: 
: This sounds bad. Are you referring to the -o syntax differences, or actual
: incompatabilities? There have been unsubstantiated reports of
: interoperability problems, but nothing well documented here.

I'm talking about the -o syntax difference specifically.  How does the
following sound?

Index: UPDATING
===================================================================
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retrieving revision 1.71
diff -u -r1.71 UPDATING
--- UPDATING	2000/02/23 05:51:02	1.71
+++ UPDATING	2000/03/06 20:31:30
@@ -5,6 +5,27 @@
 done items, please see the end of the file.  Search for 'COMMON
 ITEMS:'
 
+20000303:
+	CMSG_XXX macros offset in <sys/socket.h> has changed to
+	conform RFC-2292.  All affected applications have been
+	corrected.  The i386 platform's offsets haven't changed, but
+	the alpha's did.  When you build and install new kernel on
+	FreeBSD/alpha, you must also do a make world.
+
+20000225:
+	OpenSSH has been added to FreeBSD.  This may conflict with the
+	ssh port since it installs binaries into /usr/bin and the port
+	goes into /usr/local/bin.  Most paths have /usr/bin in the path
+	before /usr/local/bin, so problems may arrise.  If you don't
+	want OpenSSH, add NO_OPENSSH=yes to your make.conf.
+
+	You will also need to enable openssh in /etc/rc.conf if you
+	want to run the new servers.  You may need to move your key
+	and other config files from /usr/local/etc to /etc/ssh.
+
+	Openssh's command line parsing isn't 100% compatible with ssh,
+	so some care needs to be taken in its operation.
+
 20000205:
 	The xinstall problem has kinda sorta been corrected.  The 
 	following is known to work by the author of UPDATING.  It


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> The cooling theory sounds the most plausible so far. I'm not over clocking
> my CPUs (Celeron 366s) and have appropriate cooling installed. But the
> machine is kept in a small room, with a bunch of other machines and gets
> a bit warm at times.

I have seen a couple of suggestions that this may not be the CPUs - but
that the 82443BX chip (the one with the large green cooling fin) doesn't
always get sufficient cooling on a BP6 board. Some thermal compound
between the 82443BX and the cooling fin may be a good idea.

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Looks like some very recent breakage:

cc -O -pipe -g -DDEBUG -DNO_IDEA -static -o tund main.o tund.o secur.o scb.o utils.o md5.o alarm.o cipher.o search.o -L/usr/lib -lmd -lcrypto 
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rsa_lib.o(.text+0x91): undefined reference to `RSA_PKCS1'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/tund/work/tund-0.20.
*** Error code 1

Dave.

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On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 01:32:00PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:

> : > +	Openssh isn't 100% compatible with ssh, so some care needs to
> : > +	be taken in its operation.
> : 
> : This sounds bad. Are you referring to the -o syntax differences, or actual
> : incompatabilities? There have been unsubstantiated reports of
> : interoperability problems, but nothing well documented here.
> 
> I'm talking about the -o syntax difference specifically.  How does the
> following sound?

[SNIP]

> +	Openssh's command line parsing isn't 100% compatible with ssh,
> +	so some care needs to be taken in its operation.

I'd leave it saying that it isn't 100% compatible - it may sound
bad but it's true. There are several other things that aren't the
same: default options are different, some options have been removed
(AllowHosts is one that I know of), it produces warning messages
where the old ssh wouldn't have. I'm sure there are other differences
too.

	David.


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If memory serves me right, David Malone wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 01:32:00PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
> 
> > : > +	Openssh isn't 100% compatible with ssh, so some care needs to
> > : > +	be taken in its operation.
> > : 
> > : This sounds bad. Are you referring to the -o syntax differences, or actua
> l
> > : incompatabilities? There have been unsubstantiated reports of
> > : interoperability problems, but nothing well documented here.
> > 
> > I'm talking about the -o syntax difference specifically.  How does the
> > following sound?
> 
> [SNIP]
> 
> > +	Openssh's command line parsing isn't 100% compatible with ssh,
> > +	so some care needs to be taken in its operation.
> 
> I'd leave it saying that it isn't 100% compatible - it may sound
> bad but it's true. There are several other things that aren't the
> same: default options are different, some options have been removed
> (AllowHosts is one that I know of), it produces warning messages
> where the old ssh wouldn't have. I'm sure there are other differences
> too.

Rather than let the users guess at various incompatabilities (imagined 
and real), why not give them a few examples, as in your (David's) last 
message?

"Care needs to be taken when converting from ssh to OpenSSH.  OpenSSH's
command-line parsing isn't 100% compatible with ssh, some of the default
options have been changed, some options (such as AllowHosts) have been
removed, and it produces a few more warning messages than ssh."

Bruce.




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On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 08:27:18PM +0100, Dave Boers wrote:
> > on a Dual celeron box (BP6) with UDMA66 enabled.
> 
> Finally. I've been complaining about this on several occasions. I'm also
> running UDMA66 and Dual Celeron BP6. No overclocking. 

Can you people reproduce this on a kernel without SMP enabled?
Perhaps there is a locking issue?  However, that'd lead to a panic I'd imagine..
So see if you can reproduce this with one CPU running so we can at least
eliminate one of the variables.

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From owner-freebsd-current  Mon Mar  6 13:25:19 2000
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I'm willing to bet a nickel (perhaps more) you people are running non-IBM
UDMA66 drives on that BP6.  Seems that most UDMA66 drives are not actually
UDMA66 compliant,  and they only drives that have been reported successful
on the BP6 are IBM.  Try taking your HD's off the UDMA66 controller and
put them on the Standard UDMA33 controllers, and it should clear things
up.

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...In practice, there is a big difference.

On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Dan Papasian wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 08:27:18PM +0100, Dave Boers wrote:
> > > on a Dual celeron box (BP6) with UDMA66 enabled.
> > 
> > Finally. I've been complaining about this on several occasions. I'm also
> > running UDMA66 and Dual Celeron BP6. No overclocking. 
> 
> Can you people reproduce this on a kernel without SMP enabled?
> Perhaps there is a locking issue?  However, that'd lead to a panic I'd imagine..
> So see if you can reproduce this with one CPU running so we can at least
> eliminate one of the variables.
> 
> -Dan Papasian
> <bugg@bugg.strangled.net>
> 
> 
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From owner-freebsd-current  Mon Mar  6 13:34:33 2000
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I am trying to get an ipv6 address.  I tried a local source but have not
heard any reply.  Can anyone help me out with an address.  I am a student
at Cal State Monterey Bay working on a capstone project.   I would
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It is rumoured that Marius Strom had the courage to say:
> I'm willing to bet a nickel (perhaps more) you people are running non-IBM
> UDMA66 drives on that BP6.  Seems that most UDMA66 drives are not actually
> UDMA66 compliant,  and they only drives that have been reported successful
> on the BP6 are IBM.  Try taking your HD's off the UDMA66 controller and
> put them on the Standard UDMA33 controllers, and it should clear things
> up.

I'm interested in the sources of your statement about IBM drivers vs. non
IBM drives. 

In my case, I have a WD 18.2 Gb 7200 rpm disk which has been reported to be
identical to the IBM 18.2 Gb 7200 rpm disk on more than one occasion. And
by the way, my system has been running quite stable before January 2000
with the same disk on the same controller and the same mainboard. 

Regards, 

Dave Boers. 

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William Woods <bwoods2@uswest.net> wrote:

> Now that openssh is in the base system, I assume it will no longer
> be in the ports.

I expect the port to be maintained for the remaining lifetime of
the 3.x branch. This is of no concern to 4.x users, of course.

> How do we update it, ie, when a updated version comes out.

OpenSSH doesn't really have releases. The upstream version is
straight out of the OpenBSD repository. I assume several of our
developers monitor the OpenBSD commits and will carry over any
changes.

> I would rather not make world just to update that.

How do you handle updates to any other part of the system? Why do
you consider openssh a special case?

You can usually update individual parts of FreeBSD without doing
a "make world". cd /usr/src/... && make -jX install && make clean.

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Dave,
Well, there was a discussion a few weeks back with Soren Schmidt and a few
others.  I believe the conclusion was made that this occurred with most WD
drives (interesting about the WD == IBM part, I did notice he mentioned
that in -current a few weeks ago as well).  I had a WD20 gig that would
just hang, and a number of other people had similar problems. (Theirs
would log "Lost Disk Contact" in the dmesg as their root dev wasn't a
UDMA66 drive)

Unfortunately, the discussions occurred while the mailing list archive was
kaput (WD Drive on UDMA66? =]) so it's not archived where I can find it.

Seems to only happen with the ata driver, IIRC.

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On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Dave Boers wrote:

> It is rumoured that Marius Strom had the courage to say:
> > I'm willing to bet a nickel (perhaps more) you people are running non-IBM
> > UDMA66 drives on that BP6.  Seems that most UDMA66 drives are not actually
> > UDMA66 compliant,  and they only drives that have been reported successful
> > on the BP6 are IBM.  Try taking your HD's off the UDMA66 controller and
> > put them on the Standard UDMA33 controllers, and it should clear things
> > up.
> 
> I'm interested in the sources of your statement about IBM drivers vs. non
> IBM drives. 
> 
> In my case, I have a WD 18.2 Gb 7200 rpm disk which has been reported to be
> identical to the IBM 18.2 Gb 7200 rpm disk on more than one occasion. And
> by the way, my system has been running quite stable before January 2000
> with the same disk on the same controller and the same mainboard. 
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Dave Boers. 
> 
> 



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On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Warner Losh wrote:

> +20000225:
> +	OpenSSH has been added to FreeBSD.  This may conflict with the
> +	ssh port since it installs binaries into /usr/bin and the port

You probably should refer to the ports by name: /usr/ports/security/ssh
and /usr/ports/security/openssh (which is obsoleted by having it in the
base)

> +	goes into /usr/local/bin.  Most paths have /usr/bin in the path
> +	before /usr/local/bin, so problems may arrise.  If you don't

                                               arise

> +	want OpenSSH, add NO_OPENSSH=yes to your make.conf.
> +
> +	You will also need to enable openssh in /etc/rc.conf if you
> +	want to run the new servers.  You may need to move your key
> +	and other config files from /usr/local/etc to /etc/ssh.
> +
> +	Openssh's command line parsing isn't 100% compatible with ssh,
> +	so some care needs to be taken in its operation.

This is better.

Kris

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At 01:31 PM 3/6/2000 -0800, Nora Parker wrote:
>I am trying to get an ipv6 address.  I tried a local source but have not
>heard any reply.  Can anyone help me out with an address.  I am a student
>at Cal State Monterey Bay working on a capstone project.   I would
>appreciate any help in this matter.


Try the <http://www.freenet6.net/> site.


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On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, David Malone wrote:

> I'd leave it saying that it isn't 100% compatible - it may sound
> bad but it's true. There are several other things that aren't the
> same: default options are different, some options have been removed
> (AllowHosts is one that I know of), it produces warning messages
> where the old ssh wouldn't have. I'm sure there are other differences
> too.

None of these affect the operation of OpenSSH in your network. Sure, you
have to check the config files when you migrate to it, but the point is
it's not incompatible with other SSH implementations, and we don't want to
scare people into thinking it has weird lurking bugs and they'd better not
use it.

Kris

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On 6 Mar 2000, Christian Weisgerber wrote:

> > Now that openssh is in the base system, I assume it will no longer
> > be in the ports.
> 
> I expect the port to be maintained for the remaining lifetime of
> the 3.x branch. This is of no concern to 4.x users, of course.

Correct. We should probably mark the port BROKEN for 4.x and ask people to
install the system version, which will likely be better supported. e.g. we
don't support Perl5 in ports any more, either.

> > How do we update it, ie, when a updated version comes out.
> 
> OpenSSH doesn't really have releases. The upstream version is
> straight out of the OpenBSD repository. I assume several of our
> developers monitor the OpenBSD commits and will carry over any
> changes.

Right. Whenever something significant changes in the "upstream" version
we'll update ours too. If you keep an eye on the commit messages you'll
know when you might want to rebuild it, if you want to aggressively track
OpenSSH but not track make world.

> > I would rather not make world just to update that.
> 
> How do you handle updates to any other part of the system? Why do
> you consider openssh a special case?
> 
> You can usually update individual parts of FreeBSD without doing
> a "make world". cd /usr/src/... && make -jX install && make clean.

Yep. In the case of SSH you might also need to rebuild secure/lib/libssh
as well as secure/usr.bin/<foo>. Write a little script to do it if you
like :-)

Kris

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It is rumoured that Marius Strom had the courage to say:
> Well, there was a discussion a few weeks back with Soren Schmidt and a few
> others.  I believe the conclusion was made that this occurred with most WD
> drives (interesting about the WD == IBM part, I did notice he mentioned
> that in -current a few weeks ago as well).  I had a WD20 gig that would
> just hang, and a number of other people had similar problems. (Theirs
> would log "Lost Disk Contact" in the dmesg as their root dev wasn't a
> UDMA66 drive)

Interesting. I'll check my own archives of -current to see if I can find
the discussion. I always thought that the "Lost Disk Contact" messages were
due to the disk recalibrating itself after six days of continued use. After
Soren increased the timeout from 5 to 10 seconds, I never saw the problem
again, IIRC. 

For the record, (see my mail elsewhere in the thread) I have recently added
an U2W SCSI harddisk to the system (because I found that the UDMA
effectively cuts off memory access for the two celeron's for long times and
because the celeron's haven't got nearly enough cache they are effectively
waiting for the IDE disk all the time) and I'm now running my root
filesystem on that drive (as well as most of my other important
filesystems). So I guess that if your assertion is right then my problem
should have gone away now.  I haven't seen any "Lost Disk Contact" messages
recently, however, though the UDMA66 drive is still connected. 

BTW, are there any people out there that have similar hangs and are NOT
using UDMA66 or the ATA driver ? 

> Unfortunately, the discussions occurred while the mailing list archive was
> kaput (WD Drive on UDMA66? =]) so it's not archived where I can find it.

:-)
 
Regards, 

Dave Boers. 

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> Interesting. I'll check my own archives of -current to see if I can find
> the discussion. I always thought that the "Lost Disk Contact" messages were
> due to the disk recalibrating itself after six days of continued use. After
> Soren increased the timeout from 5 to 10 seconds, I never saw the problem
> again, IIRC. 

Six days?  Nah.. I had the problem occur anywhere from 5 minutes to 12
hours after a system boot.  Moved the 20G WD to UDMA33 channel, works
flawlessly.  Usually, I could reproduce the problem doing heavy disk
I/O. However, I one time was able to make it through a "make buildworld",
so that's not entirely true either.

> 
> For the record, (see my mail elsewhere in the thread) I have recently added
> an U2W SCSI harddisk to the system (because I found that the UDMA
> effectively cuts off memory access for the two celeron's for long times and
> because the celeron's haven't got nearly enough cache they are effectively
> waiting for the IDE disk all the time) and I'm now running my root
> filesystem on that drive (as well as most of my other important
> filesystems). So I guess that if your assertion is right then my problem
> should have gone away now.  I haven't seen any "Lost Disk Contact" messages
> recently, however, though the UDMA66 drive is still connected. 
> 

For my record, I was unable to get dmesg output because the system was
completely hung.  Other people could get it because they had other drives
to write logging information too when the UDMA drive was locked.

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Subject: vinum: CDEV_MAJOR undeclared
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when making buildworld, I get an error:

===> sbin/vinum
cc -O2 -pipe -m486 -I/usr/src/sbin/vinum/../../sys -Wall -DVINUMDEBUG
-I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/sbin/vinum/v.c
/usr/src/sbin/vinum/v.c: In function `make_devices':
/usr/src/sbin/vinum/v.c:494: `CDEV_MAJOR' undeclared (first use in this
function)
/usr/src/sbin/vinum/v.c:494: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only
once
/usr/src/sbin/vinum/v.c:494: for each function it appears in.)
*** Error code 1
1 error

Am I missing some headerfile? I cvsup-ed current yesterday and did an
install-world about a week ago.

martin








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On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 09:22:45AM -0800, Bob Fink wrote:

> Please read, then ask any questions you may have. 6to4 is currently 
> supported, and there are relay routers up and running.

My apologies if I sound like I need "IPv6 for Dummies".

Just to clarify.  You mean that 6to4 is currently supported in FreeBSD/KAME?
Of course, I'm not quite sure what I mean by this.  I guess, if I configure
a FreeBSD/KAME host as an IPv6 router, will the router automatically do the
IPv6->IPv4 encapsulation when it encounters a destination prefix of 2002::/16
and vice versa for incoming packets?  Or, do I need to configure a pseudo
interface somehow (gif doesn't look quite like the right thing?). Also, will
FreeBSD/KAME hosts (both router and non-router hosts) somehow automatically
do the proper address selection algorithm when they encounter multiple IPv6
addresses, or is that an application level requirement?

Also, if I have (for example) IPv4 addresses of 204.95.187/24, I assume
I can use any of the 2002:[V4ADDR]:/48 prefixes within my allocation, but
for external 6to4 connectivity I should probably choose the V4ADDR of the
external interface of the 6to4 router?

And, finally, do some of the 6to4 relay routers that are "up and running" 
serve small isolated sites?  I assume the best case is that one's ISP
provides IPv6 connectivity in some shape or form.  But, if thats not the
case, I assume the main options are IPv6-IPv4 tunnel to a co-operative
IPv6 site, or 6to4 with a default route to a relay router (who I assume
must configure a static route back?).  Or, run a more sophisticated routing
protocol (BGP), but thats a little much for me, I think.

Of course, if everyone configures 6to4 (or at least everyone you want to reach)
then am I correct that you don't really need 6to4 "relay" routers?  This is
only for reaching native IPv6 sites without 6to4 addresses?

Thanks.

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On 2000-Mar-06 21:39:11 +1100, Matthew Sean Thyer <me@camtech.net.au> wrote:
>My computer had been stable all winter (with setiathome runnning full
>time) but suddenly come the Australian summer it started freezing.

And it's been the coldest summer for something like 5 years...

> How about these Peltier (sp ?) cooling devices I have heard about ?

A Peltier cell is just a semiconductor heat pump.  It effectively just
reduces the junction-to-heatsink thermal resistance, allowing you (in
theory) to use a less efficient heatsink (or have the CPU run cooler
with the same heatsink.  The downside is they they're relatively
inefficient - your power supply will need to supply an extra 3-4A at
12v and you need to dissipate that extra power.  Unless you
significantly improve the airflow through the case, you'll probably
find that the internal temperature rises significantly - further
stressing everything except the CPU.

Note that the chip that most needs cooling may not be the CPU - the
big support chips can also run very hot.

Peter


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On 2000-Mar-07 06:29:17 +1100, Dave Boers <djb@wit389306.student.utwente.nl> wrote:
>It is rumoured that Arun Sharma had the courage to say:
>> Compiling Mozilla with make -j 2 got -current to lock up, twice in
>> succession. I'm running a fairly recent snapshot (a week or two old)
>> on a Dual celeron box (BP6) with UDMA66 enabled.
>
>Finally. I've been complaining about this on several occasions. I'm also
>running UDMA66 and Dual Celeron BP6. No overclocking. 

Later postings mention possible problems with UDMA66.  The other
possibility that has been discussed recently is potential priority
inversions for processes using rtptio and idprio.

Note that ntpd will use rtprio if the Posix P1003.1b extensions aren't
enabled in the kernel.  (These were enabled by default in GENERIC on
i386 in mid-January).  If you have the new ntpd (rather than xntpd)
and are running a kernel without options P1003_1B,
_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING and _KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L, you could
potentially get a lockup due to a priority inversion.  (Though I
think the probability is very small).

Peter


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In message <00Mar7.093254est.115229@border.alcanet.com.au>, Peter Jeremy writes
:

>> How about these Peltier (sp ?) cooling devices I have heard about ?
>
>A Peltier cell is just a semiconductor heat pump.  It effectively just
>reduces the junction-to-heatsink thermal resistance, allowing you (in
>theory) to use a less efficient heatsink (or have the CPU run cooler
>with the same heatsink.

This is actually not true, quite the contrary in fact:  You need
a better heat-sink with a Peltier because of the significant
electrical power you pump into it.

As a general rule you can expect to *raise* your CPU temperature if
you put a peltier under anything less than a *very good* heat-sink.


Example:

	A Celeron 500 disipates about 25W

	An average heatsink is about .8 C/W

	delta-T becomes 25W * .8C/W = 20C

	At 30C ambient that becomes 50C CPU temperature.

	Now, add a peltier.  To remove 25W and keep a 25C
	temperature difference we need to feed it about 50W

	Now the heatsink has to deal with 25 + 50 W and the
	delta-T becomes: (25W + 50W) * .8C/W = 60C

	Subtract the 25C difference from the peltier and add
	the ambient temperature and we find:

		30C + 60C - 25C = 65C

	We just raised our CPU temperature about 15 C :-(

--
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phk@FreeBSD.ORG               "Real hackers run -current on their laptop."
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From owner-freebsd-current  Mon Mar  6 14:52:10 2000
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From: Kris Kennaway <kris@hub.freebsd.org>
To: Arindum Mukerji <rmukerji@execpc.com>
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On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Arindum Mukerji wrote:

> Also, going from an OpenSSH 1.2.2 box to an SSH-1.2.27 box is fine - it
> coughs up a hairball when going to the F-Secure 1.3.7 commercial variant
> though.

Ahh, so you can use the OpenSSH client to connect to some servers, but not
the F-Secure one? That would definitely be a bug you should report to the
OpenSSH developers.

Is anyone else in the position to test this?

Kris

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Is this any better?  I've removed the emotionally charged
compatibility word.

20000225:
	OpenSSH has been added to FreeBSD.  This may conflict with the
	ports/security/ssh port since it installs binaries into
	/usr/bin and the port goes into /usr/local/bin.  Most paths
	have /usr/bin in the path before /usr/local/bin, so problems
	may arrise.  If you don't want OpenSSH, add NO_OPENSSH=yes to
	your make.conf.

	You will also need to enable openssh in /etc/rc.conf if you
	want to run the new servers.  You may need to move your key
	and other config files from /usr/local/etc to /etc/ssh.

	Openssh's command line parsing, available options and default
	settings aren't the same as ssh, so some care needs to be
	taken in its operation.  One should do a full audit of all
	configuration settings.

Warner


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Subject: Re: /usr/bin/ssh and SOCKS 
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On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Warner Losh wrote:

> Sure.  Here's what I have in my uncommitted tree.  It assumes that you
> have socks installed already.  Known to work with the nec port, not
> known one way or the other on dante.
> 
> Oh, there's lots of warnings from this, but it does work.

I'd like to get this committed - I'll try and take a look at it tonight,
time permitting. I would definitely like to allow SSH to work with dante,
though, since that's a better (BSDL) alternative than the restricted NEC
version.

Kris

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On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Warner Losh wrote:

> Is this any better?  I've removed the emotionally charged
> compatibility word.

Some more picking :)

> 20000225:
> 	OpenSSH has been added to FreeBSD.  This may conflict with the
> 	ports/security/ssh port since it installs binaries into
> 	/usr/bin and the port goes into /usr/local/bin.  Most paths
> 	have /usr/bin in the path before /usr/local/bin, so problems
> 	may arrise.  If you don't want OpenSSH, add NO_OPENSSH=yes to

            arise :)

> 	your make.conf.
> 
> 	You will also need to enable openssh in /etc/rc.conf if you

                                     OpenSSH

> 	want to run the new servers.  You may need to move your key

                                                                host key

> 	and other config files from /usr/local/etc to /etc/ssh.
> 
> 	Openssh's command line parsing, available options and default

        OpenSSH

> 	settings aren't the same as ssh, so some care needs to be
> 	taken in its operation.  One should do a full audit of all
> 	configuration settings.

Apart from those small nits I think it's fine.

Kris

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It is rumoured that Peter Jeremy had the courage to say:
> Note that ntpd will use rtprio if the Posix P1003.1b extensions aren't
> enabled in the kernel.  (These were enabled by default in GENERIC on
> i386 in mid-January).  If you have the new ntpd (rather than xntpd)
> and are running a kernel without options P1003_1B,
> _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING and _KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L, you could
> potentially get a lockup due to a priority inversion.  (Though I
> think the probability is very small).

I don't use ntpd (I use ntpdate) and I do have those options enabled in my
kernel (all three of them). IIRC they are needed to get either cdrdao or
cdrecord to work. 

Seems that everything points to UDMA66 so far...

Regards, 

Dave Boers. 

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In message <Pine.BSF.4.21.0003061452500.83999-100000@hub.freebsd.org> Kris Kennaway writes:
: On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Warner Losh wrote:
: 
: > Sure.  Here's what I have in my uncommitted tree.  It assumes that you
: > have socks installed already.  Known to work with the nec port, not
: > known one way or the other on dante.
: > 
: > Oh, there's lots of warnings from this, but it does work.
: 
: I'd like to get this committed - I'll try and take a look at it tonight,
: time permitting. I would definitely like to allow SSH to work with dante,
: though, since that's a better (BSDL) alternative than the restricted NEC
: version.

Mark M has seen these patches and has asked that I hold off until
after the freeze to commit them.  At this point, I'm inclined to agree
with him.

They definitely do not work with Dante, because dante doesn't seem to
install any header files, like the nec socks5 port does.

Warner


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	Arun Sharma <adsharma@sharmas.dhs.org>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
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On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 11:59:21PM +0100, Dave Boers wrote:
> It is rumoured that Peter Jeremy had the courage to say:
> > Note that ntpd will use rtprio if the Posix P1003.1b extensions aren't
> > enabled in the kernel.  (These were enabled by default in GENERIC on
> > i386 in mid-January).  If you have the new ntpd (rather than xntpd)
> > and are running a kernel without options P1003_1B,
> > _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING and _KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L, you could
> > potentially get a lockup due to a priority inversion.  (Though I
> > think the probability is very small).
> 
> I don't use ntpd (I use ntpdate) and I do have those options enabled in my
> kernel (all three of them). IIRC they are needed to get either cdrdao or
> cdrecord to work. 
> 
> Seems that everything points to UDMA66 so far...

...maybe in certain combinations.

I have a BP6 with dual celerons (466's @ 504) and have had no problems
whatsoever.

FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #4: Sun Mar  5 12:20:41 PST 2000
    cpiazza@norn.ca.eu.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/NORN
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (503.92-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x665  Stepping = 5
  Features=0x183fbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CM
OV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR>
real memory  = 268369920 (262080K bytes)
avail memory = 256987136 (250964K bytes)
Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0
IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 -> irq 0
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard
 cpu0 (BSP): apic id:  0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000
 cpu1 (AP):  apic id:  1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000
 io0 (APIC): apic id:  2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000
....
ad0: 9765MB <FUJITSU MPC3102AT E> [19841/16/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33
ad4: 12949MB <IBM-DJNA-371350> [28064/15/63] at ata2-master using UDMA66
acd0: CDROM <DELTA OPC-K101/ST1 F/W by OIPD> at ata1-slave using PIO4

ad0 is a DOS drive, ad4 is what I have FreeBSD on.

-Chris
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	Edwin Kremer <edwin+freebsd-current@cs.uu.nl>
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On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 11:23:45AM -0800, William Woods wrote:
> Now that openssh is in the base system, I assume it will no longer be in the
> ports. How do we update it, ie, when a updated version comes out. I would
> rather not make world just to update that.

# cvsup standard-supfile (until 4.0 becomes -stable)
# cd /usr/src/secure/usr.bin/ssh && make clean depend all install

Someone correct me if I'm wrong. :-)

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From owner-freebsd-current  Mon Mar  6 15:26: 6 2000
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Subject: Re: [ID 20000306.004] unpack(NaN) big baddaboom
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On 2000-Mar-07 05:35:04 +1100, Ian Grigg <iang@systemics.com> wrote:
>my $packed = "\0\0\xc0\x7f";
>print STDERR "len: ", length($packed), " bytes: ", unpack("H*", $packed), "\n";
>my $float = unpack("f", $packed);
>print STDERR "float done\n";
>print STDERR "float: $float\n";

Looking at the resultant core file, perl is getting SIGFPE inside
cast_i32() (probably when it tries to cast the NaN to an int).
Unfortunately, the code for cast_i32() does not handle NaNs (though it
does handle infinity).  (And it's not clear what integer value should
be associated with NaN in any case).

As to whether it should trap or not, that is less clear-cut.  FreeBSD
takes the view that trying to convert a NaN into an integer is not a
sensible operation, so it signals SIGFPE (the i386 NPX gives an
invalid operand exception).  Other implementations may differ.

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On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 03:46:25PM -0600, Marius Strom wrote:
>Unfortunately, the discussions occurred while the mailing list archive was
>kaput (WD Drive on UDMA66? =]) so it's not archived where I can find it.

I think this is the thread you're looking for:

    http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=95037329500001&w=2&r=1

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Hi:
My installation problem has been solved.  For those of you who have not been 
following "Installation floppies and USB," I have written a short synopsis 
after my description of the resolution and conclusion.

SOLUTION:
I discovered that my Acer Aspire (model 6140) has two PS/2 ports (for 
keyboard and floppy).  I purchased a PS/2 mouse and keyboard and I no longer 
get the "keyboard:no" message (instead it says: keyboard:yes)!  (in fact, 
under W98, my USB keyboard and mouse, and my PS/2 keyboard and mouse all 
work simultaneously.)

DISCUSSION:
I have not seen any messages about this problem, since it turned into a BIOS 
discussion with the recommendation that I change the BIOS parameter "PnP OS" 
from YES to NO.  FYI: Changing this parameter made no difference to the 
installation before or after I hooked up the PS/2 keyboard and mouse.  It 
may make a difference at some later point.

The PS/2 ports are hidden by a two different coverings: 1- a plastic molding 
that is screwed on and, 2- a plastic sheet that is glued on.  No 
consumer-oriented documentation mentions the PS/2 ports.  I only found out 
about them from: 1- a somewhat confusing email in which it was unclear if 
the writer had the same model and what the exact location of the ports were, 
2- the motherboard specs which happened to be on the Acer Aspire website, 
which prompted a more through searching of my system.

I had previously looked at the Acer website and knew it to have very little 
information.  The Acer site doesn’t even have a search function.  I only 
went back hoping to find if there were any BIOS updates (there were none).  
Two previous calls to Acer support describing my problems installing a new 
operation system ended with the response: "we don't support Linux or 
FreeBSD" -- with no mention of the possibility of using the PS/2 ports.

As far as BIOS updates: I finally found that Acer Germany provided them 
(www.acer.de/support/techinfo/bios.htm) -- and one of these BIOS updates was 
specifically for “Linux support!” (this might also be needed for FreeBSD but 
I have not downloaded this because I don’t want to fool with my BIOS unless 
absolutely necessary.)  I called Acer USA again but they had no idea that 
this site existed or why there was a BIOS update for Linux (even though the 
technician told me that he ran Linux (at home?))

I came to FreeBSD because I had learned that it “supported” USB but like 
Linux, USB support must be compiled in after installing the GENERIC 
kernel/system.  I had purchased RedHat (before I found FreeBSD), but when I 
called RedHat support and described my system (with USB keyboard and mouse), 
I was told only that “Linux doesn’t support USB.”

CONCLUSIONS:
1- “-Dh” at the boot loader’s “boot:” allowed the boot loader to load 
FreeBSD but when the FreeBSD GENERIC kernel was booted, the system may have 
been looking for input from the PS/2 port. (which I had no knowledge of!).  
Somehow NetBSD’s GENERIC kernel recognized my USB keyboard, because: 1- it 
could use the same mechanism as the boot loader (whatever that may be), 2- 
it has a better ability for finding devices dynamically (at least for 
keyboards), or 3- it supports USB.

2-Acer needs to provide better documentation.

3-Major Linux vendors, like RedHat, which have aspirations for Linux as a 
consumer "desktop" OS should have already come across this problem with Acer 
machines (along with quirkiness of other machines/manufacturers).  I would 
have also liked to see a willingness on their part to find a solution, 
instead of just spouting policy.  There was no willingness from RH or SuSE 
to provide a boot disk with a recompiled kernel (SuSE sponsored the backport 
that enables USB support in Linux’s STABLE kernel)

4- Although I was disappointed that FreeBSD did not support USB 
“out-of-the-box,” I did not expect a lot of support (like I had as a paying 
customer of RedHat’s).  NetBSD’s installation floppy did work and that was 
my backup but I was encouraged to continue looking into my USB problem 
because I found that FreeBSD developers were willing to be helpful.  This is 
especially true of John Barton, who first volunteered to help, but also of 
John Reynolds who elevated my problem to -current and Nick Hibma who 
responded quickly and cogently.

5- Perhaps I am naïve, but stating that an OS “supports” a device is 
confusing when that “support” has to be compiled in.  There should be a 
sharper distinction between support out-of-the-box (in GENERIC) and 
otherwise.  Part of the confusion stems from the fact that USB seems so 
basic.  For example, almost any PC will “support” a hard disk and a printer 
but most people would expect a hard disk to come with the machine.
In fact, hardware.txt states:
“The FreeBSD kernel on the install floppy contains drivers for every
piece of hardware that could conceivably be used to install the rest
of the system with.”

SYNOPSIS OF PROBLEM:

When I booted the installation floopy I got the message:
     “keyboard: no”
The floppy disk drive continued to work, then stopped.  I was later told 
that my  output (input,too?) was being redirected.  In the file trouble.txt, 
I found a reference to this problem which said that when the “keyboard:no” 
message appears, the user should hit the spacebar then type “-Dh” at the 
“boot:” prompt.  This worked -- I could then proceed with the installation 
until the FreeBSD kernel was booted and a screen appeared asking me if to 
choose a configuration type: none, full screen, or command line (CLI).  
Unfortunately, at this point my keyboard was not working.  I believe that is 
because I have a USB keyboard but Nick Hibma has said that they have USB 
systems that could boot the installation disks without any keyboard 
problems.  Thus, BIOS settings and IRQ settings became an issue: could there 
be conflicts or settings that needed to be changed?  No BIOS setting changes 
made any difference and I came across the PS/2 ports while I was trying to 
learn more about BIOS for my system.

John

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From owner-freebsd-current  Mon Mar  6 16:10: 9 2000
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At 10:37 PM +0100 3/6/00, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
>William Woods <bwoods2@uswest.net> wrote:
> > How do we update it, ie, when a updated version comes out.
>
>OpenSSH doesn't really have releases. The upstream version is
>straight out of the OpenBSD repository. I assume several of our
>developers monitor the OpenBSD commits and will carry over any
>changes.

Out of the OpenBSD repository, or out of the OpenSSH project?
Note that www.openssh.COM currently says:

      *NEW* OpenSSH 1.2.3 released March 6, 2000

which sounds a lot like a new release to me...

> > I would rather not make world just to update that.
>
>How do you handle updates to any other part of the system? Why do
>you consider openssh a special case?

I think openssh is a bit different than most things in the current
base system, in that it is still in rapid development, and some of
those developments WILL be of immediate interest to sites using
openSSH (in particular, some of the improvements to compatibility
with other implementations of ssh1).

>You can usually update individual parts of FreeBSD without doing
>a "make world". cd /usr/src/... && make -jX install && make clean.

While I do think OpenSSH is something of a special case, this answer
should be fine for my own purposes.  I was also wondering how easy
it would be to update just openssh without updating all of the world.
Thanks.


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A strange thing has happened while booting into single user mode.  My /
filesystem was mounted on wd0s4a even though I have updated /dev and
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From: Chris Costello <chris@calldei.com>
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On Friday, March 03, 2000, Matthew Hunt wrote:
> and the "type" builtin is too verbose, saying "which is hashed
> (/usr/bin/which)."

   In ksh, `whence' is a bit equivalent to `which' (`type' in ksh
is an alias to `whence -v').

   From the AT&T ksh manual:

       whence [ -afpv ] name ...
              For each name, indicate how it would be interpreted
              if used as a command name.
              The  -v option produces a more verbose report.  The
              -f options skips the search for functions.  The  -p
              option  does a path search for name even if name is
              an alias, a function, or a reserved word.   The  -a
              option  is  similar to the -v option but causes all
              interpretations of the given name to be reported.

   Which would yield the following behavior:

$ whence pwd
pwd
$ whence -f pwd
pwd
$ whence -p pwd
/bin/pwd
$ whence -v pwd
pwd is a shell builtin
$ whence -a pwd
pwd is a shell builtin
pwd is a tracked alias for /bin/pwd

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From owner-freebsd-current  Mon Mar  6 16:35:13 2000
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James E. Pace writes:
| 
| I rebuilt -current on Friday, and OpenSSH does not work through a
| SOCKS firewall.
| 
| In my make.conf, I have "USE_SOCKS= YES", which is used in the
| ports/security/ssh port.

As mentioned we have ssh in the base system so your are picking that up.
Another alternative is to remove the setuid bits /usr/bin/ssh and
then do a "runsocks ssh".  LP_PRELOAD in FreeBSD does not work on 
setuid binaries.  This is a security feature.  Solaris let's you do
a LD_PRELOAD on setuid binaries if the library is from /usr/lib.  So 
on Solaris if the libsocks_sh.so was in /usr/lib then LD_PRELOAD of 
it would work on setuid binaries like ssh and it would just work
without recompiling/linking.

However, now that Dante is available and has BSD licensing we could
include it in the base OS.  Yes it is bloat, but then people could 
sysinstall behind a Socks firewall and things like ssh etc could be
linked to it.  There are things I like and don't like with Dante but
it is a pretty good package and has a better license.

I could do the work if deemed usefull.  I don't want to maintain
my own branch and we use the Nec implementation here so I don't 
want to be bouncing between them for no good reason.

Doug A.


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Subject: Error: no such 386 instruction: `state'  ???
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Hi,

I'm running a snap from 2/28:

FreeBSD dbm.wireless.net 4.0-20000228-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-20000228-CURRENT #2:
Fri Mar  3 22:19:33 PST 2000

Often when compiling a port, the process will fail with messages like
the following:

[...]
Compiling smbd/noquotas.c
Compiling smbd/reply.c
{standard input}: Assembler messages:
{standard input}:4939: Error: no such 386 instruction: `state'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba/work/samba-2.0.6/source.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba.
[root@dbm /usr/ports/net/samba]#

The strange thing is, if I just say "make" again, it will continue to compile
where it left off without any problems.

Anyone else see these errors? Any Ideas?
--
Regards, Devin.

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Hi,

I am running a current snap from 2/28.

FreeBSD dbm.wireless.net 4.0-20000228-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-20000228-CURRENT
#2: Fri Mar  3 22:19:33 PST 2000 

Often when compiling a port, the process fails with messages like the
following:

[...]
Compiling smbd/pipes.c
Compiling smbd/predict.c
Compiling smbd/noquotas.c
Compiling smbd/reply.c
{standard input}: Assembler messages:
{standard input}:4939: Error: no such 386 instruction: `state'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba/work/samba-2.0.6/source.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba.
[root@dbm /usr/ports/net/samba]#

The strange thing is, if I just say make again, it will continue to compile
where it left off without any problems.

Has anyone seen messages like this before? Any ideas?
--
Regards, Devin.

P.S. I never had this problem under 3.x.   


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From owner-freebsd-current  Mon Mar  6 16:44:23 2000
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I just built a new world today and openssh does not appear to be
installed.  I have the directories /etc/ssh and /etc/ssl but they are
empty.  There is no /usr/bin/ssh.
I've been trying to follow the discussions on this issue and I understood
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Oops! Sorry for the double post. :( Kmail got stupid on me...
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From owner-freebsd-current  Mon Mar  6 16:54:35 2000
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I was having this problem a few weeks ago while trying to make world. I
had just gotten a new motherboard, that was letting me overclock my
processor (it offered new bus speeds). I reset the processor to run at its
default speed, and I have not seen this error since.

So, if you are overclocked at all I would suggest trying to clock it down
a little.

-Will

On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Devin Butterfield wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm running a snap from 2/28:
> 
> FreeBSD dbm.wireless.net 4.0-20000228-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-20000228-CURRENT #2:
> Fri Mar  3 22:19:33 PST 2000
> 
> Often when compiling a port, the process will fail with messages like
> the following:
> 
> [...]
> Compiling smbd/noquotas.c
> Compiling smbd/reply.c
> {standard input}: Assembler messages:
> {standard input}:4939: Error: no such 386 instruction: `state'
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba/work/samba-2.0.6/source.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba.
> [root@dbm /usr/ports/net/samba]#
> 
> The strange thing is, if I just say "make" again, it will continue to compile
> where it left off without any problems.
> 
> Anyone else see these errors? Any Ideas?
> --
> Regards, Devin.
> 
> P.S. Never had this problem under 3.x.    
> 
> 
> 
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On Monday,  6 March 2000 at 23:13:17 +0100, Martin Dieringer wrote:
> 
> when making buildworld, I get an error:
> 
> ===> sbin/vinum
> cc -O2 -pipe -m486 -I/usr/src/sbin/vinum/../../sys -Wall -DVINUMDEBUG
> -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/sbin/vinum/v.c
> /usr/src/sbin/vinum/v.c: In function `make_devices':
> /usr/src/sbin/vinum/v.c:494: `CDEV_MAJOR' undeclared (first use in this
> function)
> /usr/src/sbin/vinum/v.c:494: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only
> once
> /usr/src/sbin/vinum/v.c:494: for each function it appears in.)
> *** Error code 1
> 1 error
> 
> Am I missing some headerfile? I cvsup-ed current yesterday and did an
> install-world about a week ago.

You appear to be missing the latest version (1.26) of v.c, committed
on 29 February:

revision 1.26
date: 2000/02/29 06:21:38;  author: grog;  state: Exp;  lines: +9 -11
Don't print any error message if we can't open the history file.  This
replaces an older attempt to silence vinum(8) when started in
single-user mode.

Add entries for vinum_raid[45].

Replace the preprocessor variable name CDEV_MAJOR with
VINUM_CDEV_MAJOR.

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Hi,

> Hello,
> 
> Now that I have several machines running FreeBSD 4.0, I started to
> play with IPv6. It's fun! I have plans to set up a v6-over-v4 tunnel
> and connect to the 6Bone.
> 
> I read /usr/share/examples/IPv6/USAGE, /usr/share/doc/IPv6/IMPLEMENTATION
> and some documents at the KAME web site.  However, I still have to figure out
> how to assign a not-link-local address (i.e., a site or global address) to
> the [unique] Ethernet interface of each host in an automatic manner (from
> /etc/rc.conf).  After reading /etc/rc.network6 I concluded that no addresses
> apart from the link-local ones are assigned to the interfaces.  I am using
> ifconfig manually to do this (BTW, I found that there is no need to specify
> "alias").  I am new to IPv6, so maybe I am asking for something with no
> sense...

There seems to be already another answers and I might be
missing a point, but you might mean you want to assigne an
address with simple number in its lower 8byte?

Such as,
    3ffe:501:100e:2000::1
or
    3ffe:501:100e:2000::2

not like
    3ffe:501:100e:2000:200:eff:fe74:41d2
?

In that case, yes, you need to do ifconfig to assign former
kind of address. They are relatively easy to memorize and
useful as server addr.  But you don't necessarily need to
manually assign it.  You can use existing

 ifconfig_ifname=

and

 ifconfig_ifname_aliasnum=

also for IPv6.
(But there is no example for IPv6. I'll add examles.)

E.g. if you want to assign
 3ffe:501:100e:2000::1 and 3ffe:501:100e:2000::2
to ed0, I think following configuration works.

ifconfig_ed0_alias0="inet6 3ffe:501:100e:2000::1 prefixlen 64"
ifconfig_ed0_alias1="inet6 3ffe:501:100e:2000::2 prefixlen 64"


(By the way, this is local addr here, and please not use
exactly same prefix at another place. :-)

Cheers,
Yoshinobu Inoue



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Hi,

> > Wmmm, should rtadvd always be invoked when 'ipv6_gateway_enable="YES" ?
> 
> Hmmm...two things come to mind.  1) What happens if there are two
> routers running rtadvd on a single subnet?  2) Are there environments in
> which a netadmin might not want to use router advertisements?

(1): It is OK. Host randomly choose one of routers as its
default router, and other routers are also kept as backup
default routers.
Host always send its packet to the default router, and if it
is not correct router for the destination, then the packet is
just redirected to the correct router.

(2): Yes there is. Usually it is desirable that only upstream
     router invoke rtadvd to suppress too many redirects.
     In following case, only R-backbone should invoke rtadvd.
     (But there will be no serious problem even if R-local
     also invoke rtadvd.)

     backbone
            |
         R-backbone
            |
   ---------------   my subnet
         |
        R-local
         |
   -------------- just one or two subnets


     But if you have more than 2 upstream routers, it might be
     desirable that either upstream router invoke rtadvd as
     redundancy.

           --------- backbone----
            |                  |
         R-backbone1     R-backbone2
            |                  |
   ----------------------------------   my subnet



Yoshinobu Inoue

> I have this fuzzy feeling that always invoking rtadvd on routers might
> not be a good idea, but that perhaps making it the default might be good
> (right now, rtadvd is turned off by default).
> 
> Bruce.




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> : I'd like to get this committed - I'll try and take a look at it tonight,
> : time permitting. I would definitely like to allow SSH to work with dante,
> : though, since that's a better (BSDL) alternative than the restricted NEC
> : version.

I don't know well about dante, but if it is one of socks
implementation, then I think it will also need getaddrinfo
wrapper support.

In socks5 port case, the following patches are already added,
so it should be able to support apps which use getaddrinfo().

Cheers,
Yoshinobu Inoue


--- lib/rld.c.orig	Wed Aug  4 04:59:28 1999
+++ lib/rld.c	Mon Feb 21 03:55:45 2000
@@ -197,6 +197,26 @@
     lsInRLDFunctions = 0;
     S5LogUpdate(S5LogDefaultHandle, S5_LOG_DEBUG(10), 0, "RLD: gethostbyname2 results: %s %s", name, hp?hp->h_name:"???");
     return hp;
+}
+#endif
+
+#ifdef HAVE_GETADDRINFO
+int REAL(getaddrinfo)(const char *hostname, const char *servname,
+		      const struct addrinfo *hints, struct addrinfo **aip) {
+    int error;
+    static void *func = NULL;
+
+    S5LogUpdate(S5LogDefaultHandle, S5_LOG_DEBUG(10), 0, "RLD: getaddrinfo: %s", hostname);
+    GetOriginalFunc(&func, "_getaddrinfo", TRY_LIBC | TRY_LIBNSL | TRY_LIBRESOLV);
+    if (!func || func == (void *)-1) return NULL;
+
+    lsInRLDFunctions = 1;
+    error = ((int (*)P((const char *, const char *, const struct addrinfo *,
+			struct addrinfo **)))func)(hostname, servname,
+						   hints, aip);
+    lsInRLDFunctions = 0;
+    S5LogUpdate(S5LogDefaultHandle, S5_LOG_DEBUG(10), 0, "RLD: getaddrinfo results: %s %s", hostname, (*aip&&(*aip)->ai_canonname)?(*aip)->ai_canonname:"???");
+    return error;
 }
 #endif
 
--- lib/hostname.c.orig	Wed Aug  4 04:59:29 1999
+++ lib/hostname.c	Tue Feb 22 09:51:48 2000
@@ -17,6 +17,10 @@
 #define S5_HOSTLIST_SIZE    256
 #define S5_HOSTALIASES_SIZE 16
 #define S5_FAKEHOSTFILE     ".s5fakehost"
+
+#ifndef NI_WITHSCOPEID
+#define	NI_WITHSCOPEID	0
+#endif
  
 struct hostEntry {
     char name[S5_HOSTNAME_SIZE];
@@ -402,6 +406,129 @@
 }
 #endif
 
+#if defined(HAVE_GETADDRINFO) && defined(HAVE_GETNAMEINFO)
+/* wrapper around the getaddrinfo call.                                      */
+/* similar to getaddrinfo() except for:                                      */
+/* *** if getaddrinfo() fails, then it returns a pointer to a addrinfo       */
+/*     structure filled with a special value, so that SOCKSxxxxxx() will     */
+/*     realize that this host was unresolved and fill in the protocol        */
+/*     accordingly...                                                        */
+/*                                                                           */
+/* returns an error number on failure; 0 on success   */
+int LIBPREFIX(getaddrinfo)(const char *hostname, const char *servname,
+			    const struct addrinfo *hints,
+			    struct addrinfo **aip) {
+    static char numaddrbuf[MAXHOSTNAMELEN];
+    static struct addrinfo *ai;
+    char *local, *fake;
+    int error = 0, i;
+    int addrlen, namelen, family;
+
+#ifdef FOR_SHARED_LIBRARY
+    if (lsInRLDFunctions || lsInWrapFunction || lsInWrapHostname) return REAL(getaddrinfo)(hostname, servname, hints, aip);
+#endif
+
+    lsInWrapFunction = 1;
+    lsInWrapHostname = 1;
+    LIBPREFIX2(init)("libsocks5");
+    S5LogUpdate(S5LogDefaultHandle, S5_LOG_DEBUG(10), 0, "SOCKS getaddrinfo: looking up %s", hostname);
+
+    fake  = getenv("SOCKS5_FAKEALLHOSTS");
+    local = getenv("SOCKS5_LOCALDNSONLY");
+
+    if (!fake &&
+	(error = REAL(getaddrinfo)(hostname, servname, hints, aip)) == NULL) {
+        getnameinfo((*aip)->ai_addr, (*aip)->ai_addrlen, numaddrbuf,
+		    sizeof(numaddrbuf) - 1, NULL, 0,
+		    NI_NUMERICHOST|NI_WITHSCOPEID);
+	S5LogUpdate(S5LogDefaultHandle, S5_LOG_DEBUG(10), 0, "SOCKS getaddrinfo: REAL: %s", numaddrbuf);
+
+        lsInWrapFunction = 0;
+        lsInWrapHostname = 0;
+	return error;
+    }
+
+    /* If your DNS is the same as the socks server, don't fake a correct     */
+    /* lookup when you know it won't work...                                 */
+    if (local) {
+	S5LogUpdate(S5LogDefaultHandle, S5_LOG_DEBUG(10), 0, "SOCKS getaddrinfo: REAL: Fake not configured");
+        lsInWrapFunction = 0;
+        lsInWrapHostname = 0;
+	return (error != 0) ? error : EAI_FAIL;
+    }
+
+    /* Fill in some UNRESOLVED values and let the daemon resolve it          */
+    if ((i = GetFakeHost(hostname)) <= 0) {
+        S5LogUpdate(S5LogDefaultHandle, S5_LOG_ERROR, 0, "SOCKS getaddrinfo: Get fake host failed");
+        lsInWrapFunction = 0;
+        lsInWrapHostname = 0;
+	return (error != 0) ? error : EAI_FAIL;
+    }
+
+    /* create fake for AF_INET. Fake for AF_INET6 is not yet */
+    if (hints->ai_family == AF_UNSPEC || hints->ai_family == AF_INET) {
+        addrlen = sizeof(struct sockaddr_in);
+	family = AF_INET;
+        ai = (struct addrinfo *)malloc(sizeof(struct addrinfo) + addrlen);
+	if (ai == NULL)
+	    return EAI_MEMORY;
+	memcpy(ai, hints, sizeof(struct addrinfo));
+	ai->ai_family = family;
+	ai->ai_addr = (struct sockaddr *)(ai + 1);
+	memset(ai->ai_addr, 0, addrlen);
+	ai->ai_addr->sa_len = addrlen;
+	ai->ai_addrlen = addrlen;
+	ai->ai_addr->sa_family = family;
+	if (servname != NULL) {
+	    struct servent *sp;
+	    const char *p;
+	    int is_number, port;
+
+	    p = servname;
+	    is_number = 1;
+	    while (*p) {
+	        if (!isdigit(*p))
+		    is_number = 0;
+		p++;
+	    }
+	    if (is_number) {
+	        port = htons(atoi(servname));
+		if (port < 0 || port > 65535) {
+		    free(ai);
+		    return EAI_SERVICE;
+		}
+	    } else {
+	        sp = getservbyname(servname, NULL);
+		if (sp == NULL) {
+		    free(ai);
+		    return EAI_SERVICE;
+		}
+	        port = sp->s_port;		
+	    }
+	    ((struct sockaddr_in *)ai->ai_addr)->sin_port = port;
+	}
+	((struct sockaddr_in *)ai->ai_addr)->sin_addr.s_addr = htonl(i);
+	if ((hints->ai_flags & AI_CANONNAME) != 0) {
+	    ai->ai_canonname = (char *)malloc(strlen(hostname) + 1);
+	    if (ai->ai_canonname == NULL) {
+	        free(ai);
+		return EAI_MEMORY;
+	    }
+	    strncpy(ai->ai_canonname, hostname, strlen(hostname) + 1);
+	}
+    } else
+        return EAI_FAMILY;
+    *aip = ai;
+
+    getnameinfo((*aip)->ai_addr, (*aip)->ai_addrlen, numaddrbuf,
+		sizeof(numaddrbuf) - 1, NULL, 0, NI_NUMERICHOST);
+    S5LogUpdate(S5LogDefaultHandle, S5_LOG_DEBUG(10), 0, "SOCKS getaddrinfo: FAKE: %s",  numaddrbuf);
+    lsInWrapFunction = 0;
+    lsInWrapHostname = 0;
+    return 0;
+}
+#endif
+
 int lsGetCachedAddress(const char *name, S5NetAddr *na) {
     int i;
     char hostname[S5_HOSTNAME_SIZE];
--- configure.in.orig	Tue Aug  3 00:00:50 1999
+++ configure.in	Sun Feb 20 21:24:32 2000
@@ -120,6 +120,7 @@
 
 AC_CHECK_FUNCS(gethostbyname2)
 AC_CHECK_FUNCS(gethostbyname_r gethostbyaddr_r getpwuid_r getservbyname_r)
+AC_CHECK_FUNCS(getaddrinfo getnameinfo)
 AC_CHECK_FUNCS(memset memcmp memmove strchr strrchr strdup strerror)
 AC_CHECK_FUNCS(bcopy bcmp bzero index rindex)
 AC_CHECK_FUNCS(setenv putenv unsetenv getenv)
--- include/config.h.in.orig	Mon Aug  2 23:57:28 1999
+++ include/config.h.in	Sun Feb 20 21:20:53 2000
@@ -133,6 +133,12 @@
 /* Define if you have the gethostbyname_r function.  */
 #undef HAVE_GETHOSTBYNAME_R
 
+/* Define if you have the getaddrinfo function.  */
+#undef HAVE_GETADDRINFO
+
+/* Define if you have the getnameinfo function.  */
+#undef HAVE_GETNAMEINFO
+
 /* Define if you have the getifaddrs function.  */
 #undef HAVE_GETIFADDRS
 
--- include/hide.h.orig	Wed Aug  4 04:59:30 1999
+++ include/hide.h	Mon Feb 21 14:41:49 2000
@@ -19,6 +19,7 @@
 #ifdef HAVE_GETHOSTBYNAME2
 #define gethostbyname2 HIDE(gethostbyname2)
 #endif
+#define getaddrinfo   HIDE(getaddrinfo)
 #define gethostbyname HIDE(gethostbyname)
 #define getpeername   HIDE(getpeername)
 #define getsockname   HIDE(getsockname)
@@ -53,6 +54,7 @@
 #ifdef HAVE_GETHOSTBYNAME2
 #undef gethostbyname2 
 #endif
+#undef getaddrinfo
 #undef gethostbyname 
 #undef getpeername   
 #undef getsockname   
--- include/socks.h.orig	Wed Aug  4 04:59:30 1999
+++ include/socks.h	Mon Feb 21 14:44:03 2000
@@ -52,6 +52,9 @@
 #ifdef HAVE_GETHOSTBYNAME2
 extern struct hostent *LIBPREFIX(gethostbyname2) P((char *, int));
 #endif
+extern int LIBPREFIX(getaddrinfo) P((const char *, const char *,
+				     const struct addrinfo *,
+				     struct addrinfo **));
 #endif /* include prototypes */
 
 #ifndef LIBPREFIX
@@ -93,6 +96,7 @@
 #ifdef HAVE_GETHOSTBYNAME2
 #define gethostbyname2 LIBPREFIX(gethostbyname2)
 #endif
+#define getaddrinfo   LIBPREFIX(getaddrinfo)
 #define gethostbyname LIBPREFIX(gethostbyname)
 #define rresvport     LIBPREFIX(rresvport)
 #define connect       LIBPREFIX(connect)
--- include/system.h.orig	Wed Aug  4 04:59:30 1999
+++ include/system.h	Mon Feb 21 14:43:42 2000
@@ -24,6 +24,9 @@
 #ifdef HAVE_GETHOSTBYNAME2
 struct hostent * REAL(gethostbyname2) P((const char *, int));
 #endif
+int		 REAL(getaddrinfo) P((const char *, const char *,
+				      const struct addrinfo *,
+			 	      struct addrinfo **));
 struct hostent * REAL(gethostbyname) P((const char *));
 struct hostent * REAL(gethostbyaddr) P((const void *, int, int));
 struct servent * REAL(getservbyname) P((const char *, const char *)); 


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Hi,

Very unfortunately, 6to4 is not yet supported in FreeBSD/KAME.

So now available options will be,

 -Use freenet6 (for one hosts).
 -Get IPv6 address block and connect to 6bone using gif tunnel.


Cheers,
Yoshinobu Inoue

> > Please read, then ask any questions you may have. 6to4 is currently 
> > supported, and there are relay routers up and running.
> 
> My apologies if I sound like I need "IPv6 for Dummies".
> 
> Just to clarify.  You mean that 6to4 is currently supported in FreeBSD/KAME?
> Of course, I'm not quite sure what I mean by this.  I guess, if I configure
> a FreeBSD/KAME host as an IPv6 router, will the router automatically do the
> IPv6->IPv4 encapsulation when it encounters a destination prefix of 2002::/16
> and vice versa for incoming packets?  Or, do I need to configure a pseudo
> interface somehow (gif doesn't look quite like the right thing?). Also, will
> FreeBSD/KAME hosts (both router and non-router hosts) somehow automatically
> do the proper address selection algorithm when they encounter multiple IPv6
> addresses, or is that an application level requirement?
> 
> Also, if I have (for example) IPv4 addresses of 204.95.187/24, I assume
> I can use any of the 2002:[V4ADDR]:/48 prefixes within my allocation, but
> for external 6to4 connectivity I should probably choose the V4ADDR of the
> external interface of the 6to4 router?
> 
> And, finally, do some of the 6to4 relay routers that are "up and running" 
> serve small isolated sites?  I assume the best case is that one's ISP
> provides IPv6 connectivity in some shape or form.  But, if thats not the
> case, I assume the main options are IPv6-IPv4 tunnel to a co-operative
> IPv6 site, or 6to4 with a default route to a relay router (who I assume
> must configure a static route back?).  Or, run a more sophisticated routing
> protocol (BGP), but thats a little much for me, I think.
> 
> Of course, if everyone configures 6to4 (or at least everyone you want to reach)
> then am I correct that you don't really need 6to4 "relay" routers?  This is
> only for reaching native IPv6 sites without 6to4 addresses?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -- 
> Richard Seaman, Jr.           email: dick@tar.com
> 5182 N. Maple Lane            phone: 262-367-5450
> Chenequa WI 53058             fax:   262-367-5852
> 
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On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, R Joseph Wright wrote:

> I just built a new world today and openssh does not appear to be
> installed.  I have the directories /etc/ssh and /etc/ssl but they are
> empty.  There is no /usr/bin/ssh.
> I've been trying to follow the discussions on this issue and I understood
> that this is now part of the default base system.  

Do you have the crypto sources installed?

Kris

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On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Garance A Drosihn wrote:

> Out of the OpenBSD repository, or out of the OpenSSH project?

Both are the same thing.

> Note that www.openssh.COM currently says:
> 
>       *NEW* OpenSSH 1.2.3 released March 6, 2000
> 
> which sounds a lot like a new release to me...

They (arbitrarily) bumped the version this morning. The version numbers
don't really correspond to anything other than periodic checkpoints along
the CVS branch.

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thanks for your responses. I seem to have commented out src-all
and just fetched -sys and -release, then forgot about that.
so my v.c (and everything else) was outdated...
sorry to have bothered you with this stupid behaviour.

martin


On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Greg Lehey wrote:

> On Monday,  6 March 2000 at 23:13:17 +0100, Martin Dieringer wrote:
> > 
> > when making buildworld, I get an error:
> > 
> > ===> sbin/vinum
> > cc -O2 -pipe -m486 -I/usr/src/sbin/vinum/../../sys -Wall -DVINUMDEBUG
> > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/sbin/vinum/v.c
> > /usr/src/sbin/vinum/v.c: In function `make_devices':
> > /usr/src/sbin/vinum/v.c:494: `CDEV_MAJOR' undeclared (first use in this
> > function)
> > /usr/src/sbin/vinum/v.c:494: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only
> > once
> > /usr/src/sbin/vinum/v.c:494: for each function it appears in.)
> > *** Error code 1
> > 1 error
> > 
> > Am I missing some headerfile? I cvsup-ed current yesterday and did an
> > install-world about a week ago.
> 
> You appear to be missing the latest version (1.26) of v.c, committed
> on 29 February:
> 
> revision 1.26
> date: 2000/02/29 06:21:38;  author: grog;  state: Exp;  lines: +9 -11
> Don't print any error message if we can't open the history file.  This
> replaces an older attempt to silence vinum(8) when started in
> single-user mode.
> 
> Add entries for vinum_raid[45].
> 
> Replace the preprocessor variable name CDEV_MAJOR with
> VINUM_CDEV_MAJOR.
> 
> Greg
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Kris Kennaway <kris@hub.freebsd.org> wrote in list.freebsd-current:
 > On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Oliver Fromme wrote:
 > > the ports (yeah, stupid me), to no avail.  It complained about some
 > > RSA library missing.
 > 
 > Did you read the error message?

Yes, I did, it was not helpful.  In fact, it was confusing.

 > Perhaps you should. Perhaps reporting it
 > here would help someone to actually fix your problem instead of having to 
 > guess.

I do not have a problem, I fixed it myself after some
struggling.  Did you read my whole message?  Maybe I was
a bit unclear.  Sorry for that.

My question was just what I am expected to do, and whether
removing /usr/bin/ssh is the suggested solution.

 > Hmm. Can you try cvsupping your src-crypto and src-secure collections from
 > another (non-US) cvsup server?

I can't cvsup on that -current box, it's too small for a
"make world" (and probably too slow, too).  I just downloaded
the 20000228-current snapshot and installed it.

 > > Apart from my stupidness of not checking the location of the binary
 > > first -- what did I do wrong, and what's the recommended way of
 > > handling this?  Am I supposed to rm /usr/bin/ssh each time I install a
 > > new release or snapshot?  I can't believe that.
 > 
 > Read /etc/defaults/make.conf

Why?  I didn't compile anything.

 > > By the way, _why_ is ssh in the base system now, and what is
 > > wrong with having it in the ports?  I'm sorry if there was a
 > > "HEADS UP" on this list, then I must have missed it.
 > 
 > Enough people wanted it in the base system

For what reason?  I'm sorry, I can't find anything in the
archives which is answering my question.

 > I'm quite surprised you've missed any discussion of OpenSSH here though,
 > since it's probably been one of the most discussed topics here for the
 > past few weeks.

Hm.  Strange.

Regards,
   Oliver

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> > > Wmmm, should rtadvd always be invoked when 'ipv6_gateway_enable="YES" ?

Oh, I need to conclude about this.

> (2): Yes there is. Usually it is desirable that only upstream
>      router invoke rtadvd to suppress too many redirects.
>      In following case, only R-backbone should invoke rtadvd.
>      (But there will be no serious problem even if R-local
>      also invoke rtadvd.)
> 
>      backbone
>             |
>          R-backbone
>             |
>    ---------------   my subnet
>          |
>         R-local
>          |
>    -------------- just one or two subnets
> 

> > I have this fuzzy feeling that always invoking rtadvd on routers might
> > not be a good idea, but that perhaps making it the default might be good
> > (right now, rtadvd is turned off by default).
> > 
> > Bruce.

To think about the above case, always enabling rtadvd might
not be good idea.

And now I think the problem is that entry name,
  rtadvd_enable="NO"
is not intuitive for users.

So how about changing the name to something like,

 ipv6_to_be_defaultrouter="NO"

and if it is set to YES, then rc.network6 invoke rtadvd (and
possibly do other works)?

Please give me comments if it seems reasonable or not, and
also if the name is good or bad.

Thanks,
Yoshinobu Inoue


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Seigo Tanimura <tanimura@r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp> wrote in list.freebsd-current:
 > On Mon, 6 Mar 2000 01:22:41 +0100 (CET),
 >   Oliver Fromme <olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> said:
 > 
 > Oliver> Would someone please (pretty please) have a look at kern/16487
 > Oliver> and commit the trivial fix in it?  It's just one line, and it
 > Oliver> makes AvanceLogic-100 soundcards work again.
 > 
 > The logical ID of ALS100 conflicts with the one of CMI8330(mss), so we
 > also have to check the vendor ID. Could you please give it to me? It
 > is likely to be 0x00019305. (ALS110 is 0x10019305 and ALS120 is
 > 0x20019305, so...)

pnpinfo says:
   Vendor ID ALS0001 (0x01009305), Serial Number 0x01000000
   Logical Device ID: @@@0001 0x01000000 #0

But I think there is already a check for the vendor ID of the
card, look at the beginning of sbc_probe() in sbc.c.  So I
think it's really sufficient to add that line to the array of
logical IDs.

Regards
   Oliver

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On 07-Mar-00 John Daniels wrote:
> Hi:
> My installation problem has been solved.  For those of you who have not been 
> following "Installation floppies and USB," I have written a short synopsis 
> after my description of the resolution and conclusion.

Good, glad you got your system working.

> 4- Although I was disappointed that FreeBSD did not support USB 
> “out-of-the-box,” I did not expect a lot of support (like I had as a paying 
> customer of RedHat’s).  NetBSD’s installation floppy did work and that was 
> my backup but I was encouraged to continue looking into my USB problem 
> because I found that FreeBSD developers were willing to be helpful.  This is 
> especially true of John Barton, who first volunteered to help, but also of 
> John Reynolds who elevated my problem to -current and Nick Hibma who 
> responded quickly and cogently.

This does need to be rectified.  I still want to build a USB-enabled release
and try to get it tested, or at least some custom boot floppies.  If I get
these built, I might ask to have you test them for me if you could.  The thing
is, while you may have been fortunate to find some PS/2 ports, a lot of new
motherboads are USB only.  I know because I have been looking at getting an
Athlon, and most of the Athlon motherboards are USB only.  Part of the problem
is that apparently USB cannot be compiled directly into the kernel.  Instead,
doing so results in an unstable kernel.  Instead, USB needs to be loaded via
kld's, which complicates the boot disks somewhat.

> 5- Perhaps I am naïve, but stating that an OS “supports” a device is 
> confusing when that “support” has to be compiled in.  There should be a 
> sharper distinction between support out-of-the-box (in GENERIC) and 
> otherwise.  Part of the confusion stems from the fact that USB seems so 
> basic.  For example, almost any PC will “support” a hard disk and a printer 
> but most people would expect a hard disk to come with the machine.
> In fact, hardware.txt states:
> “The FreeBSD kernel on the install floppy contains drivers for every
> piece of hardware that could conceivably be used to install the rest
> of the system with.

As mentioned above, this is a definite concern that needs to be addressed.

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Oops:  That's kudos for John *Baldwin,* NOT "Barton."  A thousand pardons...
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On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Oliver Fromme wrote:

>  > Did you read the error message?
> 
> Yes, I did, it was not helpful.  In fact, it was confusing.

Without still having seen the error message you were confused by, I can't
do much else to help. I can't think of a better way to explain how to fix
the problem than what's currently there.

>  > Hmm. Can you try cvsupping your src-crypto and src-secure collections from
>  > another (non-US) cvsup server?
> 
> I can't cvsup on that -current box, it's too small for a
> "make world" (and probably too slow, too).  I just downloaded
> the 20000228-current snapshot and installed it.

Well, the question then becomes: did you download the snapshot (including
the crypto (formerly called 'DES') collection) from a US server, or non-US
server? International people should be using the crypto collection from an
internationally-produced snapshot for maximum openssl performance.

>  > Read /etc/defaults/make.conf
> 
> Why?  I didn't compile anything.

Then, yes, you'll have to delete it after each new snapshot; just like
you'd have to delete sendmail, perl, or anything else we have compile-time
knobs for but which doesn't exist in a separate installation
collection. Them's the breaks..

>  > Enough people wanted it in the base system
> 
> For what reason?  I'm sorry, I can't find anything in the
> archives which is answering my question.

It is (very) useful to have out of the box, and making sysinstall depend
on packages is ugly to special-case and difficult to maintain.

Kris

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On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Oliver Fromme wrote:
> Apart from my stupidness of not checking the location of the binary
> first -- what did I do wrong, and what's the recommended way of
> handling this?  Am I supposed to rm /usr/bin/ssh each time I install a
> new release or snapshot?  I can't believe that.

I avoid the problem by structuring my paths along the lines of
$HOME/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin (everythere, not just on
FreeBSD).

This way, if I (as sysadmin) install something in /usr/local, it
over-rides whatever the vendor supplied.  (Otherwise, I probably
wouldn't have installed my own version).  Likewise, anything I
put in my private bin directory over-rides anything in the common
areas.

In this case, it would mean that the version of ssh installed
(in /usr/local/bin) from the ports would over-ride the /usr/bin/ssh
in the base system.

Peter


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In message <200003070030.QAA75449@whistle.com> Doug Ambrisko writes:
: Another alternative is to remove the setuid bits /usr/bin/ssh and
: then do a "runsocks ssh".

That's not really an option for my work patterns...

: I could do the work if deemed usefull.  I don't want to maintain
: my own branch and we use the Nec implementation here so I don't 
: want to be bouncing between them for no good reason.

I'd be up for that as well.  Anything that works.

Warner


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Hi,

   A quick question before I try to come up with a fix and
patches for a problem that I believe to be a moving target.

   I have run 'make release' to create 4.0-20000306-SNAP with
sources current as of 2am March 6th.  When running sysinstall
and selecting <ALL> the encryption components, sysinstall
fails trying to locate crypto/des.inf. When looking through
/usr/src/release/Makefile, it doesn't appear that des.inf
and des.?? are created anymore, but instead located in
crypto.inf and crypto.??.

   So, I believe sysinstall needs to be updated so des.??
is not installed anymore.

   A 2nd question, do we need the concept of a default
crypto mechanism when installing <ALL> the encryption
components? Currently, it appears that 'last untarred'
wins for libcrypto.

   Comments Welcome!

Thanks,
John

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is there support for sound using the i810 chipset?

I hear it isn't such a hot chipset but it does alott..

I have a BookPC here which would make a great work station 
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On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 08:27:18PM +0100, Dave Boers <djb@relativity.student.utwente.nl> wrote:

> I'm interested in the fix, of course :-) But where to start looking? I've
> had three lockups so far (none before january 2000) but I didn't find
> anything that reliably triggered it. 

I had a lockup yesterday while stress-testing new SMP machine. Tyan
motherboard with Intel GX chipset, 256MB of memory, one 20GB IBM UDMA66
disk, but running at UDMA33. All power management disabled completely in
the BIOS. I was doing massive parallel compiling of GENERIC kernels.
Let the machine doing this overnight and on the morning the console had
about 20 'microuptime() went backwards' messages, I was able to switch
vty's but not login, machine responded to pings, no disk activity. I'm
using ata driver and only one unusual kernel option HZ=1000.
-- 

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Edwin Kremer <edwin+freebsd-current@cs.uu.nl> writes:

>    " OpenSSH is based on my version from back in 1995 or 1996.  The OpenSSH
>    " folks have fixed many of the (security) bugs in that version, but not
>    " all of them when I last checked.  Some of the problems in SSH1 are
>    " very fundamental.
>    " 
>    " I do not recommend use of OpenSSH (or SSH1 generally, for that matter).
> 
> 
> There hasn't been much followup on this. Anybody here who cares to
> comment on this? What issues are relevant here and how bad is it?

The uid-swapping code is still used by OpenSSH despite the fact that
it can cause all sorts of security problems.  Not all problems apply
to all platforms, but I can't remember all of them and wouldn't rely
on them not to cause problems on OpenBSD or FreeBSD (IIRC there are
some that do).

This has been fixed in later (less free) versions of ssh1.  There are
a number of ways to fix it.  Basically switching uids from root to a
user and back needs to be avoided.


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From owner-freebsd-current  Mon Mar  6 23: 0:41 2000
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On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, R Joseph Wright wrote:
> 
> > I just built a new world today and openssh does not appear to be
> > installed.  I have the directories /etc/ssh and /etc/ssl but they are
> > empty.  There is no /usr/bin/ssh.
> > I've been trying to follow the discussions on this issue and I understood
> > that this is now part of the default base system.  
> 
> Do you have the crypto sources installed?

Why, that's a very good question.   Why, no, I don't have them installed.
:)
It wasn't really clear to me, actually.  From my tracking of the
discussions, which can be very muddy and hard to follow, I thought that
openssh was automagically installed but was not really an *active*
thing unless the rsaref port was also installed.
Thanks for your reply.
Joseph



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From owner-freebsd-current  Tue Mar  7  1: 9:18 2000
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Okay, I did some testing on my new scratch box by first installing 3.4
from the CD and then attempting a source upgrade to 4.0: buildworld
completed fine, but following the directions in UPDATING was not enough to
get the kernel built.

1) genassym and config were complaining about not being able to find
libc.so.4 when I installed them. Workaround: go back and rebuild with with
CFLAGS="-static"

2) When trying to build a GENERIC kernel, the build died with:

cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit  -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes  -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  ../../i386/i386/locore.s
/var/tmp/ccZ79966.s: Assembler messages:
/var/tmp/ccZ79966.s:2399: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction
/var/tmp/ccZ79966.s:2400: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction
/var/tmp/ccZ79966.s:2416: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction
/var/tmp/ccZ79966.s:2417: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction
/var/tmp/ccZ79966.s:2422: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction
/var/tmp/ccZ79966.s:2427: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction
/var/tmp/ccZ79966.s:2432: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction
/var/tmp/ccZ79966.s:2437: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction
*** Error code 1

Stop.

Solution: 'make buildkernel' in /usr/src seemed to do the trick.

3) The upgrade steps don't mention mergemastering /etc

Kris

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On Mon, 06 Mar 2000 16:38:44 PST, R Joseph Wright wrote:

> I just built a new world today and openssh does not appear to be
> installed.  I have the directories /etc/ssh and /etc/ssl but they are
> empty.  There is no /usr/bin/ssh.

Last night's ``make world'' scored me a /usr/bin/ssh, but an empty
/etc/ssh .  I'm curious to know how /etc/ssh will be populated, since
mergemaster won't pick up an sshd_config in src/etc .

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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It is rumoured that Devin Butterfield had the courage to say:
> Compiling smbd/noquotas.c
> Compiling smbd/reply.c
> {standard input}: Assembler messages:
> {standard input}:4939: Error: no such 386 instruction: `state'
> *** Error code 1

I just solved a problem very similar to yours on one of my machines. It
turned out to be a broken DIMM. The machine had 384 Mb of RAM and broke on
compilations all the time (any ports, kernel or world) with strange
compiler errors, like unknown 386 instructions, internal compiler errors,
assembler errors and source code syntax errors. 

I took out all three 128 Mb DIMMS, put them back one at a time and soon
found the problem. I replaced the faulty DIMM and the machine is running
smoothly again. I Stresstested it by doing several make -j 36 buildworld's.  

> P.S. Never had this problem under 3.x.    

It has probably nothing to do with your version of FreeBSD, although
differences in memory organization might have some influence on the
symptoms. Incidentally, the machine I had problems with was also running
4.0-current. 

Regards, 

Dave Boers. 

-- 
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It is rumoured that Vallo Kallaste had the courage to say:
> I had a lockup yesterday while stress-testing new SMP machine. Tyan
> motherboard with Intel GX chipset, 256MB of memory, one 20GB IBM UDMA66
> disk, but running at UDMA33. All power management disabled completely in
> the BIOS. I was doing massive parallel compiling of GENERIC kernels.
> Let the machine doing this overnight and on the morning the console had
> about 20 'microuptime() went backwards' messages, I was able to switch
> vty's but not login, machine responded to pings, no disk activity. I'm
> using ata driver and only one unusual kernel option HZ=1000.

Your symptoms are not the same as mine. In my case the lockups are
complete. No switching of vt's, no pings, nothing at all. 

I never saw any "microuptime() went backwards" messages either. But then
again, I never had the machine lockup on the console; I was usually logged
in over the network or working in X. 

Regards, 

Dave Boers. 

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On Mon, 06 Mar 2000 13:32:00 MST, Warner Losh wrote:

> : This sounds bad. Are you referring to the -o syntax differences, or
> : actual incompatabilities?
>
> I'm talking about the -o syntax difference specifically.  How does the
> following sound?

What about the off-by-one hostkey length problem?  Is it supposed to be
possible to drop a "1024-bit" host key from the old ssh1 port into
/etc/ssh ?  We don't seem to be having much luck with that over here.

Ciao,
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On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 01:09:15AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> Okay, I did some testing on my new scratch box by first installing 3.4
> from the CD and then attempting a source upgrade to 4.0: buildworld
> completed fine, but following the directions in UPDATING was not enough to
> get the kernel built.
> 
-current kernels are built just fine on 3.4 with -current src/Makefile
after -current world has been built:

# cd /usr/src
# make buildworld
# make buildkernel installkernel [KERNEL="kernels you want build"]


> 1) genassym and config were complaining about not being able to find
> libc.so.4 when I installed them. Workaround: go back and rebuild with with
> CFLAGS="-static"
> 
buildworld builds host versions of these tools, and they are used for
building -current kernels with {build|install}kernel:

/usr/obj/4.0/home/ru/src-4.0/i386/usr/sbin/config:
        libc.so.3 => /usr/lib/libc.so.3 (0x2806a000)
/usr/obj/4.0/home/ru/src-4.0/i386/usr/bin/genassym:
        libc.so.3 => /usr/lib/libc.so.3 (0x28062000)


> 2) When trying to build a GENERIC kernel, the build died with:
> 
> cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit  -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes  -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  ../../i386/i386/locore.s
> /var/tmp/ccZ79966.s: Assembler messages:
> /var/tmp/ccZ79966.s:2399: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction
> /var/tmp/ccZ79966.s:2400: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction
> /var/tmp/ccZ79966.s:2416: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction
> /var/tmp/ccZ79966.s:2417: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction
> /var/tmp/ccZ79966.s:2422: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction
> /var/tmp/ccZ79966.s:2427: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction
> /var/tmp/ccZ79966.s:2432: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction
> /var/tmp/ccZ79966.s:2437: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop.
> 
The same for gcc.  You need the -current gcc built in the host environment
(usually, the one in /usr/obj/usr/src/i386).  That's why you should use
buildkernel target.


> Solution: 'make buildkernel' in /usr/src seemed to do the trick.
> 
We certainly need to update src/UPDATING accordingly, see the patch
attached.

> 3) The upgrade steps don't mention mergemastering /etc
> 
> Kris

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@@ -14,7 +14,7 @@
 
 20000225:
 	OpenSSH has been added to FreeBSD.  This may conflict with the
-	ports/security/ssh port since it installs binaries into
+	ports/security/ssh port since FreeBSD installs binaries into
 	/usr/bin and the port goes into /usr/local/bin.  Most paths
 	have /usr/bin in the path before /usr/local/bin, so problems
 	may arise.  If you don't want OpenSSH, add NO_OPENSSH=yes to
@@ -648,9 +648,9 @@
 	--------------------------------
 	cd /usr/src
 	make buildworld
+	make buildkernel installkernel KERNEL="NAME_OF_YOUR_KERNEL"
 	cd sbin/mknod
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-	<follow directions to build/install a kernel>
 	<follow rebuild disk /dev entries above>	[*]
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On Tis, Mar 07, 2000 at 11:09:12am +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote:
> Last night's ``make world'' scored me a /usr/bin/ssh, but an empty
> /etc/ssh .  I'm curious to know how /etc/ssh will be populated, since
> mergemaster won't pick up an sshd_config in src/etc .

mergemaster sure did pick up ssh_config and sshd_config for me.

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On Tue, 07 Mar 2000 12:47:45 +0100, Anders Andersson wrote:

> On Tis, Mar 07, 2000 at 11:09:12am +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote:
> > Last night's ``make world'' scored me a /usr/bin/ssh, but an empty
> > /etc/ssh .  I'm curious to know how /etc/ssh will be populated, since
> > mergemaster won't pick up an sshd_config in src/etc .
> 
> mergemaster sure did pick up ssh_config and sshd_config for me.

?!?!  So it's been fiddled to know about the crypto directories?  Wow,
I'm impressed!

*runs.off.to.mergemaster*

Ciao,
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Kris Kennaway <kris@hub.freebsd.org> wrote in list.freebsd-current:
 > Without still having seen the error message you were confused by, I can't
 > do much else to help. I can't think of a better way to explain how to fix
 > the problem than what's currently there.

As I said in my first message, it complained about a missing
RSA library.  (To reproduce the actual error message word by
word, I'd have to install the whole stuff again.)

 > > I can't cvsup on that -current box, it's too small for a
 > > "make world" (and probably too slow, too).  I just downloaded
 > > the 20000228-current snapshot and installed it.
 > 
 > Well, the question then becomes: did you download the snapshot (including
 > the crypto (formerly called 'DES') collection) from a US server, or non-US
 > server? International people should be using the crypto collection from an
 > internationally-produced snapshot for maximum openssl performance.

From ftp7.de.freebsd.org which mirrors from current.freebsd.org.
I always use those snapshots, for many years now, and it worked
fine so far (even though I never had an RSA library).

What about the Release?  Will 4.0-R be offered in two variants,
one for the US and one for all others, so they get a working
ssh?  As far as I know, releases were the same for everyone,
so far.

 > >  > Enough people wanted it in the base system
 > > 
 > > For what reason?  I'm sorry, I can't find anything in the
 > > archives which is answering my question.
 > 
 > It is (very) useful to have out of the box,

That applies to a real lot of software which is now in the
ports.  For example, lsof would be very useful to have out
of the box.  And netcat.  And sudo.  And pgp.  And a few
hundreds of others.

One of the first things I always did after a fresh install
was cd /usr/ports/security/ssh; make install && make clean,
just like I did with a bunch of other optional ports which
are not there "out of the box" (and shouldn't).

Well, sorry for my grumbling, I'll just keep removing the
non-functional /usr/bin/ssh from now on.  :-)

Regards,
   Oliver

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Yoshinobu Inoue wrote:
> 
> There seems to be already another answers and I might be
> missing a point, but you might mean you want to assigne an
> address with simple number in its lower 8byte?
> 
> Such as,
>     3ffe:501:100e:2000::1
> or
>     3ffe:501:100e:2000::2
> 
> not like
>     3ffe:501:100e:2000:200:eff:fe74:41d2
> ?
> 
> In that case, yes, you need to do ifconfig to assign former
> kind of address. They are relatively easy to memorize and
> useful as server addr.  But you don't necessarily need to
> manually assign it.  You can use existing
> 
>  ifconfig_ifname=
> 
> and
> 
>  ifconfig_ifname_aliasnum=
> 
> also for IPv6.
> (But there is no example for IPv6. I'll add examles.)
> 
> E.g. if you want to assign
>  3ffe:501:100e:2000::1 and 3ffe:501:100e:2000::2
> to ed0, I think following configuration works.
> 
> ifconfig_ed0_alias0="inet6 3ffe:501:100e:2000::1 prefixlen 64"
> ifconfig_ed0_alias1="inet6 3ffe:501:100e:2000::2 prefixlen 64"
> 
> (By the way, this is local addr here, and please not use
> exactly same prefix at another place. :-)
> 

Yes, I am using site-local addresses like "fec0::9ee3:6b4", where I
am coding the IPv4 address in the lower 32 bits, and I am using
a prefixlen=120.

Just wondering: is the "alias" necessary? I can add a site-local IPv6
address to the same interface without the "alias" ifconfig keyword. If this
is valid, then something as

ifconfig_fxp0="inet 158.227.6.180 netmask 255.255.255.0 inet6 fec0::9ee3:6b4 prefixlen 120"

should be OK.

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Oliver Fromme writes:
>Kris Kennaway <kris@hub.freebsd.org> wrote in list.freebsd-current:
> > Without still having seen the error message you were confused by, I c=
an't
> > do much else to help. I can't think of a better way to explain how to=
 fix
> > the problem than what's currently there.
>
>As I said in my first message, it complained about a missing
>RSA library.  (To reproduce the actual error message word by
>word, I'd have to install the whole stuff again.)
>

you have to cvsup the secure stuff from internat. I did that and
/usr/bin/ssh works just fine after copying the ssh_* stuff from
/usr/local/etc to /etc/ssh.

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From: Oliver Fromme <olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de>
To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, Gary Jennejohn <garyj@muc.de>
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Gary Jennejohn <garyj@peedub.muc.de> wrote in list.freebsd-current:
 > Oliver Fromme writes:
 > >As I said in my first message, it complained about a missing
 > >RSA library.  (To reproduce the actual error message word by
 > >word, I'd have to install the whole stuff again.)
 > 
 > you have to cvsup the secure stuff from internat. I did that and

*sigh*  As I wrote in a past message in this thread, i did not
and cannot cvsup on that machine at all.  I can only do binary
installs (i.e. releases and snapshots) on that piece of hard-
ware.  That's what probably 95% of FreeBSD users do, anyway.

Regards
   Oliver

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> > (By the way, this is local addr here, and please not use
> > exactly same prefix at another place. :-)
> 
> Yes, I am using site-local addresses like "fec0::9ee3:6b4", where I
> am coding the IPv4 address in the lower 32 bits, and I am using
> a prefixlen=120.

I think there have been not much experiences in using non 64
prefixlen for IPv6 on LAN, so there might be some problem
hidden behind the usage, or maybe not.

> Just wondering: is the "alias" necessary? I can add a site-local IPv6
> address to the same interface without the "alias" ifconfig keyword.

Yes, alias is not necessary for IPv6.

> If this
> is valid, then something as
> ifconfig_fxp0="inet 158.227.6.180 netmask 255.255.255.0 inet6 fec0::9ee3:6b4 prefixlen 120"
> should be OK.

But above config does not seems work here.

I think 

 ifconfig_ifname_aliasnum

is just necessary for configuring multiple addrs for one
interface purpose.

Cheers,
Yoshinobu Inoue


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Quoting the whole thing deliberately:

On Sun, Mar 05, 2000 at 08:24:35PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote:
> I had an abortive -stable to -current upgrade late last week, despite
> following the directions in UPGRADING, the two kernels I built (one
> custom, one GENERIC) both froze on me during the reboot process.
> 
> I'm a little wary of doing it again like that, because it does take
> some time to fix.
> 
> So I had an alternative idea.  How about doing the following:
> 
>   1.  Download -current boot.flp, mfsroot.flp, fixit.flp, and write to
>       floppies
> 
>   2.  cd /usr/src && make buildworld
> 
>   3.  Reboot from boot/mfsroot.flp
> 
>   4.  When prompted, use the fixit floppy to get a shell
> 
>   5.  Mount all the fixed disk partitions, and then (assuming they're all
>       mounted under /mnt/root)
> 
>          cd /mnt/root/usr/src && make DESTDIR=/mnt/root
> 
>   6.  Mergemaster
> 
>   7.  Build and install a new kernel
> 
> This has the added advantage that if there's something in your system
> that was OK in -stable, but doesn't work in -current, you're going to 
> find out about it before you've done an installworld, and before you've
> overwritten a working -stable /kernel, because boot.flp will fail to 
> work.
> 
> The only problem is that mergemaster assumes it's merging in to /etc,
> when that wouldn't be the case here -- mergemaster would need another
> config option ($DEST_ETC ?) to specify where to install to.
> 
> Can anyone see anything there that's likely not to work?

To which the response has been nil.  At this point, you're either all
struck dumb by the staggering simplicity and elegance of this approach,
or you're sat there slowly shaking your head, wondering how I could be
quite so stupid :-)

Come on then, which is it?

N
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Hi,

I forgot when I noticed this curious problem... It's not so serious
but annoying. Any help is appreciated.

Situation:

1. Running 4.0-current. Uname -a says
     FreeBSD xa12.heimat.gr.jp 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #8: Sat
     Mar  4 22:36:09 JST 2000
     root@xa12.heimat.gr.jp:/export/src/sys/compile/NAKAJI  i386
   The system is upgraded by making world from 3.1-RELEASE.
2. XFree86 3.3.6 compiled by ports/x11/XFree86.
3. Xserver is X-TT.
4. Login via XDM and using sessreg to record logins into utmp.

/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/GiveConsole is:

chown $LOGNAME /dev/console
sessreg -a -l $DISPLAY -x /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xservers $LOGNAME
if [ -f /var/run/xdm.pids ]; then
	kill `cat /var/run/xdm.pids`
	rm -f /var/run/xdm.pids
fi

/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/TakeConsole is:

/usr/X11R6/bin/sessreg -d -l $DISPLAY -x /usr/X11R6/lib/xdm/Xservers $LOGNAME
chmod 622 /dev/console
chown root /dev/console

Problems:

1. w, uptime and finger complains about non-existence of /dev/:0, for
   example,

$ w
w: /dev/:0: No such file or directory
10:41PM  up 29 mins, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.08, 0.23
USER             TTY      FROM              LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
nakaji           p1       :0.0             10:32PM     - w

2. 'sessreg -d' does not record my logout (the user is only me), that
   is,

$ LC_TIME=C last | head
nakaji           :0       console          Tue Mar  7 22:31   still logged in
nakaji           :0       console          Tue Mar  7 22:22   still logged in
nakaji           :0       console          Tue Mar  7 22:13   still logged in

   Until rebooting the system, I am always loging in on /dev/:0.

Questions:

1. Why w and so on complain, "/dev/:0: No such file or directory"?
   (Why /dev/:0 is to be opened?)
2. Is my usage of sessreg wrong?

Thanks in advance.
-- 
NAKAJI Hiroyuki


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Hi All,

I recently purchased a Cyclades Cyclom-Yo4p serial adapter
upon booting i noted:
Mar  5 09:15:47 gumbo /kernel: cy0: <Cyclades Cyclom-Y Serial Adapter> port 0xf4
80-0xf4ff mem 0xffbe8000-0xffbebfff,0xffbee800-0xffbee87f irq 17 at device 15.0 
on pci0
Mar  5 09:15:47 gumbo /kernel: pci_map_int: can't allocate interrupt
Mar  5 09:15:47 gumbo /kernel: cy0: driver is using old-style compatability shims

Moving it to a different slot and removing the CY_PCI_FASTINTR 
resulted in the pci_map_int message going away.

However, after the system starts to transfer data on a ppp link
on the COM1 port, i get a panic in the interrupt arena.
I did not include the DDB trace info, because i suspect there may be some
bitrot in cy.c, and thought i would just fix it myself.

It appears that the cy.c is based on sio.c.
Is the current sio.c sufficiently newbus correct so that it could again be
used as a model to "fix" cy.c?
I am going to try the card in a remote kernel GDB setup soon, so if someone
wants the trace et.al info...

eric haug
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Oliver Fromme <freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG> wrote:

> I can't cvsup on that -current box, it's too small for a
> "make world" (and probably too slow, too).  I just downloaded
> the 20000228-current snapshot and installed it.

In that case: See section 6.5 of the handbook.

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On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 03:52:39PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
> 20000225:
> 	OpenSSH has been added to FreeBSD.  This may conflict with the
> 	ports/security/ssh port since it installs binaries into
> 	/usr/bin and the port goes into /usr/local/bin.  Most paths
> 	have /usr/bin in the path before /usr/local/bin, so problems

To be precise, it's ${PREFIX}/bin.

bye,
  Harold

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote:

> Okay, I did some testing on my new scratch box by first installing 3.4
> from the CD and then attempting a source upgrade to 4.0: buildworld
> completed fine, but following the directions in UPDATING was not enough to
> get the kernel built.
> 
> 1) genassym and config were complaining about not being able to find
> libc.so.4 when I installed them. Workaround: go back and rebuild with with
> CFLAGS="-static"

what i did is just go to genassym directory, do "make clean depend all
install". it will then fix the problem.

> 
> 2) When trying to build a GENERIC kernel, the build died with:
> 
> Solution: 'make buildkernel' in /usr/src seemed to do the trick.

i was try to rebuild "config" and it will also fix the problem.
jus do "make clean depend all install" :-)


I dont know if "my solution" going to cause any problem, but it simply
sovle both GENERIC kernel and genassym problem.

btw, I have problem to make release, it kept complain about that i didnt
set the USA_RESIDENT, however, I did! both in /etc and /etc/defaults. Can 
please someone help me out with this as well..

thanks :)



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On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 01:02:29AM +1000, Idea Receiver wrote:
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> btw, I have problem to make release, it kept complain about that i didnt
> set the USA_RESIDENT, however, I did! both in /etc and /etc/defaults. Can 
> please someone help me out with this as well..
> 
> thanks :)

Set USA_RESIDENT in environment rather than in /etc.

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At 1:10 AM +0100 2000/3/6, Oliver Fromme wrote:

>  I have upgraded a machine to the latest -current snapshot (it
>  was running a -current from the end of January before).  Every-
>  thing went fine, except for one thing: ssh didn't work anymore.
>  It used to work fine before.

	I've been following this thread for a while, and I'd like to ask 
a related question -- can anyone else successfully use scp with 
OpenSSH?  On the one machine on which I've installed OpenSSH so far, 
it appears that scp into the machine is totally broken.

	Of course, this machine isn't running FreeBSD, so I don't expect 
you folks to help me try to work this problem out, but I am wondering 
if scp with OpenSSH under FreeBSD does actually work.


	Thanks!

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When I tried out OpenSSH on a 3.4-stable machine, I as well was unable to
scp into the machine from another 3.4-stable machine using ssh 1.2.27, I
didn't at the time attempt to discover much, I was in a rush and thus just
installed 1.2.27 instead of OpenSSH which is too bad, I like the OpenSSH
idea and development, gives me that safe warm feeling..

Matt
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On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Brad Knowles wrote:

: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:55:52 -0500
: From: Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be>
: To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
: Subject: Re: ssh strangeness in -current...
: 
: At 1:10 AM +0100 2000/3/6, Oliver Fromme wrote:
: 
: >  I have upgraded a machine to the latest -current snapshot (it
: >  was running a -current from the end of January before).  Every-
: >  thing went fine, except for one thing: ssh didn't work anymore.
: >  It used to work fine before.
: 
: 	I've been following this thread for a while, and I'd like to ask 
: a related question -- can anyone else successfully use scp with 
: OpenSSH?  On the one machine on which I've installed OpenSSH so far, 
: it appears that scp into the machine is totally broken.
: 
: 	Of course, this machine isn't running FreeBSD, so I don't expect 
: you folks to help me try to work this problem out, but I am wondering 
: if scp with OpenSSH under FreeBSD does actually work.
: 
: 
: 	Thanks!
: 
: -- 
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At 10:17 AM -0500 2000/3/7, Matt Heckaman wrote:

>  When I tried out OpenSSH on a 3.4-stable machine, I as well was unable to
>  scp into the machine from another 3.4-stable machine using ssh 1.2.27, I
>  didn't at the time attempt to discover much, I was in a rush and thus just
>  installed 1.2.27 instead of OpenSSH which is too bad, I like the OpenSSH
>  idea and development, gives me that safe warm feeling..

	Hmm.  What version of OpenSSH was that?  Given that I've had 
conflicting reports already, I'd like to try to nail down which 
version people are using and having (or not having) what problems. 
This might help me figure out why I'm having problems on this other 
machine.


	Thanks!

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On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 03:55:52PM +0100, Brad Knowles wrote:
> 	I've been following this thread for a while, and I'd like to ask 
> a related question -- can anyone else successfully use scp with 
> OpenSSH?  On the one machine on which I've installed OpenSSH so far, 
> it appears that scp into the machine is totally broken.
> 
> 	Of course, this machine isn't running FreeBSD, so I don't expect 
> you folks to help me try to work this problem out, but I am wondering 
> if scp with OpenSSH under FreeBSD does actually work.

It works fine for me, I just tested scp in both ways between 2
machines running:

  - FreeBSD 2.2.8 from Dec. 1998, using SSH 1.2.25 without RSAREF
    from the ports
  - FreeBSD 3.4 as of Dec. 27th 1999, using OpenSSH 1.2.1 installed
    as a port
    
bye,
  Harold

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I was using SSH 1.2.27 w/ RSAREF from 3.4-stable, and as for OpenSSH, I
don't exactly recall, this was approximately 3-4 weeks after OpenSSH
originally made it into the ports, I figured it was at worst a bug of the
growing pain nature, I've been meaning to try it out again.

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: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:25:32 -0500
: From: Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be>
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: Cc: FreeBSD-CURRENT <current@FreeBSD.ORG>
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: 
: At 10:17 AM -0500 2000/3/7, Matt Heckaman wrote:
: 
: >  When I tried out OpenSSH on a 3.4-stable machine, I as well was unable to
: >  scp into the machine from another 3.4-stable machine using ssh 1.2.27, I
: >  didn't at the time attempt to discover much, I was in a rush and thus just
: >  installed 1.2.27 instead of OpenSSH which is too bad, I like the OpenSSH
: >  idea and development, gives me that safe warm feeling..
: 
: 	Hmm.  What version of OpenSSH was that?  Given that I've had 
: conflicting reports already, I'd like to try to nail down which 
: version people are using and having (or not having) what problems. 
: This might help me figure out why I'm having problems on this other 
: machine.
: 
: 
: 	Thanks!
: 
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Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be> writes:

> but I am wondering if scp with OpenSSH under FreeBSD does actually
> work.

Well, it works fine for me.

r.arthur ~ % uname -rs
FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT 
r.arthur ~ % ssh -V
SSH Version OpenSSH-1.2.2, protocol version 1.5.
Compiled with SSL. 

        Roland


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>  > Oliver Fromme writes:
>  > >As I said in my first message, it complained about a missing
>  > >RSA library.  (To reproduce the actual error message word by
>  > >word, I'd have to install the whole stuff again.)
>  > 
>  > you have to cvsup the secure stuff from internat. I did that and
> 
> *sigh*  As I wrote in a past message in this thread, i did not
> and cannot cvsup on that machine at all.  I can only do binary
> installs (i.e. releases and snapshots) on that piece of hard-
> ware.  That's what probably 95% of FreeBSD users do, anyway.

Internat also have daily snapshots of -current and -stable. Because
of our slow link, it is probably best to install the rest from
somewhere else and then just the crypto stuff from internat. Just
note that I only keep the last 3 snaps, so don't expect to be able
to get the same thing a week later. :-)

To answer another question in this thread, we do build releases
based on the international crypto code and they are placed on
internat. No CDs though. :-/

John
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If memory serves me right, Yoshinobu Inoue wrote:

> And now I think the problem is that entry name,
>   rtadvd_enable="NO"
> is not intuitive for users.
> 
> So how about changing the name to something like,
> 
>  ipv6_to_be_defaultrouter="NO"
> 
> and if it is set to YES, then rc.network6 invoke rtadvd (and
> possibly do other works)?
> 
> Please give me comments if it seems reasonable or not, and
> also if the name is good or bad.

I think that I know just enough about IPv6 to be dangerous, at this
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describes exactly what it does), and just change the default to "YES".

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I just finished a make world for -current todayd cvsup. All went well but
I was planning on setting up ssh between my home systems and aneother
system on the net, but I find there are no config files in /etc/ssh.

I do have the crypto sources also.

Thanks

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> I think that I know just enough about IPv6 to be dangerous, at this
> point.  With that in mind, I think we should keep the name (because that
> describes exactly what it does), and just change the default to "YES".

OK, I'll choose the option, and also add some more description
for "rtadvd_enable".

Thanks,
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I just built- and installed- world about an hour ago, and removed the
ssh-1.2.27 port.  The build and install went without a problem, but I've
apparently lost some functionality.

I spend most of my time in xemacs, and I make heavy use of CVS to access a
couple of remote repositories.  I've had CVS_RSH=ssh for quite some time,
and use vc (the emacs/xemacs interface to CVS) to handle my sources.  Up
until this morning, it worked fine.  Whenever I needed to access a remote
repository, a window popped up to ask for my password.  Now, I just get an
error message saying "You have no controlling tty.  Cannot read
passphrase."

I've installed a Tcl/Tk version of ssh-askpass in /usr/local/bin (which
works by itself; I've tried it). I've also set SSH_ASKPASS_ENV to
/usr/local/bin/ssh-askpass, but it hasn't made any difference.

Any suggestions?

Thanks...

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On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, David E. Cross wrote:

:Version 2 of the lock manager is ready to be released.  Amitha
:says that it passes all of the tests in the suite posted by Drew (thanks
:Drew).  A noteable exception to this is on SGI where some lock requests
:are never even received from the remote host.  Also DOS sharing is not
:yet complete.

Any idea why this is?  I only ask because:

12:12pm banshee  /home/jamie %uname -aR
IRIX64 banshee 6.5 6.5.5m 07151433 IP25

I have some PC's that I'm interested in putting FreeBSD on (other than my
laptop) that would be on the network fulltime, and working NFS locking is
really the only stumbling bock for me now.

Jamie Bowden

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Nik Clayton wrote:
>>   5.  Mount all the fixed disk partitions, and then (assuming they're all
>>       mounted under /mnt/root)
>> 
>>          cd /mnt/root/usr/src && make DESTDIR=/mnt/root
>> 
>> 
>>   7.  Build and install a new kernel
>> 
> 
> Come on then, which is it?
> 

Okay, here's some feedback ;-)

In 5. above, is "make DESTDIR=/mnt/root" missing "world" or
"installworld"?   AFAIK, a plain "make DESTDIR=/mnt/root" will not
do the install portion.  If this is the case, then you better 
make sure the /modules agrees with your 7., or people loading
modules during the reboot will be screwed.


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> I have upgraded a machine to the latest -current snapshot (it
> was running a -current from the end of January before).  Every-
> thing went fine, except for one thing: ssh didn't work anymore.
> It used to work fine before.

You really need to read the -current mailing list if you're going to
run -current.  Saying that openssh took you by surprise as a -current
user is sort of like saying you didn't know Elvis was dead. :-(

- Jordan


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> I keep asking myself this question; a default sysinstall package would
> give us the same end result.
> 
> I'm building with NO_OPENSSL and NO_OPENSSH and have still gotten hit with
> breakage.

Would you guys quit spreading FUD and start actually giving us some
DETAILS on this alleged breakage?  You've been ridiculously silent on
an issue which has been actively worked on and discussed for the last
few weeks to come forward at this late stage and start waving your
arms around.  This entire thread has been content-free so far.

- Jordan


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At 4:58 PM +0100 2000/3/7, Roland Jesse wrote:

>  Well, it works fine for me.

	Must be a FreeBSD vs. Solaris thing, because I've got the same 
version and it doesn't work for me.  Sounds like I've got some more 
debugging to do.


	Thanks for all the info!

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In article <Pine.BSF.4.21.0003061451070.83999-100000@hub.freebsd.org>,
Kris Kennaway  <kris@hub.freebsd.org> wrote:
> 
> Ahh, so you can use the OpenSSH client to connect to some servers, but not
> the F-Secure one? That would definitely be a bug you should report to the
> OpenSSH developers.
> 
> Is anyone else in the position to test this?

In the past I have had interoperability problems between F-Secure
and the open source versions of ssh.  But the cause then was simply
that the F-Secure keys were too long (> 1024 bits) for ssh's rsaref
to cope with.

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On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 08:52:22AM -0800, Bill Woods wrote:
> I just finished a make world for -current todayd cvsup. All went well but
> I was planning on setting up ssh between my home systems and aneother
> system on the net, but I find there are no config files in /etc/ssh.
> 
> I do have the crypto sources also.
> 

did you run mergemaster after the make world?

regards,

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On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 12:02:49PM -0500, Richard J Kuhns wrote:
> I just built- and installed- world about an hour ago, and removed the
> ssh-1.2.27 port.  The build and install went without a problem, but I've
> apparently lost some functionality.
> 
> I spend most of my time in xemacs, and I make heavy use of CVS to access a
> couple of remote repositories.  I've had CVS_RSH=ssh for quite some time,
> and use vc (the emacs/xemacs interface to CVS) to handle my sources.  Up
> until this morning, it worked fine.  Whenever I needed to access a remote
> repository, a window popped up to ask for my password.  Now, I just get an
> error message saying "You have no controlling tty.  Cannot read
> passphrase."
> 
> I've installed a Tcl/Tk version of ssh-askpass in /usr/local/bin (which
> works by itself; I've tried it). I've also set SSH_ASKPASS_ENV to
> /usr/local/bin/ssh-askpass, but it hasn't made any difference.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 

# cd /usr/ports/security/OpenSSH-askpass/
# make all install clean

regards,

-oscar

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Kris Kennaway wrote:
> 
> This sounds bad. Are you referring to the -o syntax differences, or actual
> incompatabilities? There have been unsubstantiated reports of
> interoperability problems, but nothing well documented here.

I know for a fact that one flag I used with ssh (ssh-agent's -p, I
think) does not exist in openssh. Nevertheless, I haven't had problems
with openssh. Well, actually, I haven't *tested* it, so who knows. :-)

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> > I keep asking myself this question; a default sysinstall package would
> > give us the same end result.
> > 
> > I'm building with NO_OPENSSL and NO_OPENSSH and have still gotten hit with
> > breakage.
> 
> Would you guys quit spreading FUD and start actually giving us some
> DETAILS on this alleged breakage?  You've been ridiculously silent on
> an issue which has been actively worked on and discussed for the last
> few weeks to come forward at this late stage and start waving your
> arms around.  This entire thread has been content-free so far.

I've been building and rebuilding in an attempt to make sure that its not
some stupidity on my part.

Be assured that when I'm positive I've got a reproducable error that I'll
let everyone in on the details.

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On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 11:01:09AM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote:
> Quoting the whole thing deliberately:
> 
> On Sun, Mar 05, 2000 at 08:24:35PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote:
[snip]
> 
> To which the response has been nil.  At this point, you're either all
> struck dumb by the staggering simplicity and elegance of this approach,
> or you're sat there slowly shaking your head, wondering how I could be
> quite so stupid :-)
> 
> Come on then, which is it?

To be honest it seems like a complete waste of time and a hugh pain in
the rear.  All you need to do is build a 4.0 kernel, install it under
some random name (say /kernel.current) boot with it to insure that it
works.  If something goes wrong you just reboot and fall back to /kernel
which should work.  It's not like the boot floppies are going to work if
GENERIC doesn't.  What needs to be fixed is that users need to
be reminded the cardinal rule of kernel building which is to always keep
a known, working kernel around.  I use /kernel.working, others use
kernel.good.  That way, if things go wrong they just switch back.  None
of this messing with floppies and redirecting installworlds.

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In message <38C546D7.3571A497@newsguy.com> "Daniel C. Sobral" writes:
: I know for a fact that one flag I used with ssh (ssh-agent's -p, I
: think) does not exist in openssh. Nevertheless, I haven't had problems
: with openssh. Well, actually, I haven't *tested* it, so who knows. :-)

Other than the missing or different features, different default
values, different error/warning message, pickier whining and the like,
I've had no problem since I cut over :-).  The programs interoperate,
but there's definitely a learning curve for OpenSSH.

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No, I dident. I dident have old ssh (the port one) to merge. This is the 1st
time use of ssh on this system.

On 07-Mar-00 Oscar Bonilla wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 08:52:22AM -0800, Bill Woods wrote:
>> I just finished a make world for -current todayd cvsup. All went well but
>> I was planning on setting up ssh between my home systems and aneother
>> system on the net, but I find there are no config files in /etc/ssh.
>> 
>> I do have the crypto sources also.
>> 
> 
> did you run mergemaster after the make world?
> 
> regards,
> 
> -oscar
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On Tue, 07 Mar 2000, Ruslan Ermilov was heard blurting out:

> On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 01:02:29AM +1000, Idea Receiver wrote:
> [...]
> > btw, I have problem to make release, it kept complain about that i didnt
> > set the USA_RESIDENT, however, I did! both in /etc and /etc/defaults. Can 
> > please someone help me out with this as well..
> > 
> > thanks :)
> 
> Set USA_RESIDENT in environment rather than in /etc.
> 

In /etc/make.conf you can set it like so:
	USA_RESIDENT=           YES


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Oscar Bonilla writes:
 > 
 > # cd /usr/ports/security/OpenSSH-askpass/
 > # make all install clean
 > 
 > regards,
 > 
 > -oscar
 > 

Well, that installed a C version of ssh-askpass in /usr/X11R6/bin.  Running
it directly, it looks different but functions identically to the Tcl/TK
version I'd installed earlier (which I moved so it wouldn't interfere with
anything).  It also made no difference whatsoever.

A quick grep through /usr/src/crypto/openssh seems to indicate that only
ssh-add uses ssh-askpass.

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Regardless, without using mergemaster, the NEW config files will never have
gotten placed into /etc
Make world does not in and of itself in any way touch those configuration
files.

- Jay Oliver

----- Original Message -----
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> No, I dident. I dident have old ssh (the port one) to merge. This is the
1st
> time use of ssh on this system.





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On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 09:20:01AM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote:
> Nik Clayton wrote:
> >>   5.  Mount all the fixed disk partitions, and then (assuming they're all
> >>       mounted under /mnt/root)
> >> 
> >>          cd /mnt/root/usr/src && make DESTDIR=/mnt/root
> >> 
> >>   7.  Build and install a new kernel
> >> 
> > 
> > Come on then, which is it?
> 
> Okay, here's some feedback ;-)
> 
> In 5. above, is "make DESTDIR=/mnt/root" missing "world" or
> "installworld"?   

Rats.  It's missing the "installworld" bit.

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On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 10:19:57AM -0800, Brooks Davis wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 11:01:09AM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote:
> > To which the response has been nil.  At this point, you're either all
> > struck dumb by the staggering simplicity and elegance of this approach,
> > or you're sat there slowly shaking your head, wondering how I could be
> > quite so stupid :-)
> > 
> > Come on then, which is it?
> 
> To be honest it seems like a complete waste of time and a hugh pain in
> the rear.  All you need to do is build a 4.0 kernel, install it under
> some random name (say /kernel.current) boot with it to insure that it
> works.  

That, at least, was not the case with an upgrade I attempted a few days 
ago.  On booting with kernel.GENERIC (from -current) it hung mounting the
disks.  Trying to go back to kernel.stable didn't work, because I'd had 
to update the /dev entries for -current, and they wouldn't work with
-stable.  I had to dig out fixit floppies and restore from a backup.

Ordinarily, you'd make sure that userland, /dev, and the kernel are all
in sync before you reboot.  However, in this case (and as advised by
src/UPDATING) you have to reboot with a new kernel after updating /dev,
but before you update the userland.

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OK, well, I useally merge files by hand because I am not familiar with
mergemaster......how would I do this by hand?

On 07-Mar-00 Jay Oliver wrote:
> Regardless, without using mergemaster, the NEW config files will never have
> gotten placed into /etc
> Make world does not in and of itself in any way touch those configuration
> files.
> 
> - Jay Oliver
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Woods" <wwoods@cybcon.com>
> To: "Oscar Bonilla" <obonilla@fisicc-ufm.edu>
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>> No, I dident. I dident have old ssh (the port one) to merge. This is the
> 1st
>> time use of ssh on this system.
> 
> 
> 
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William Woods wrote:
> OK, well, I useally merge files by hand because I am not familiar with
> mergemaster......how would I do this by hand?
> 

man mergemaster

If you insist on doing it by hand, start with 
"diff -urN /etc /usr/src/etc"
 
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Good god, I am saying that the files to merger dont exist....there is nothing
to merge...

This is the eror I get when trying to run ssdd....

/etc/ssh/sshd_config: No such file or directory  

the file sshd_config does not exist on my system to merge...

On 07-Mar-00 Steve Kargl wrote:
> William Woods wrote:
>> OK, well, I useally merge files by hand because I am not familiar with
>> mergemaster......how would I do this by hand?
>> 
> 
> man mergemaster
> 
> If you insist on doing it by hand, start with 
> "diff -urN /etc /usr/src/etc"
>  
> -- 
> Steve


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After much perusing of source code, scouring of cvs log messages, and
searching the archives, I've determined I have no idea where else to
look for this problem I'm having.

The problem is this:

After booting, starting all services, and getting to the point where
init usually spawns the getty processes on ttyv[0-7], I get no login
prompts and no virtual terminal sessions.

I'm able to login over the network, and everything else looks normal
once logged in, except there are no getty processes.

This is with a -current of a few hours ago, including a new kernel,
running on a ThinkPad 770X. Below is my kernel config file.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, including pointers to relevant
source files.

-- 
Christopher Nielsen
(enkhyl|cnielsen)@pobox.com
Enkhyl on IRC

--- Begin Kernel Config File ---

machine         i386
cpu             I586_CPU
cpu             I686_CPU
ident           ENDER
maxusers        32
makeoptions     DEBUG=-g                #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols
options         MAXMEM="(127*1024)"
options         INET                    #InterNETworking
options         INET6                   #IPv6
options         IPSEC                   #IP security
options         IPSEC_ESP               #IP security (crypto; define w/ IPSEC)
options         IPSEC_IPV6FWD           #IP security tunnel for IPv6
options         IPSEC_DEBUG             #debug for IP security
options         NETGRAPH                #netgraph(4) system
options         FFS                     #Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options         FFS_ROOT                #FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
options         MD_ROOT                 #MFS usable as root device, "MFS" req'ed
options         SOFTUPDATES
options         COMPAT_43               #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
options         SCSI_DELAY=15000        #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device
options         UCONSOLE                #Allow users to grab the console
options         USERCONFIG              #boot -c editor
options         VISUAL_USERCONFIG       #visual boot -c editor
options         KTRACE                  #ktrace(1) syscall trace support
options         PQ_LARGECACHE           #color for 512k/16k cache
options         INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE     #Include this file in kernel
options         SYSVSHM                 #SYSV-style shared memory
options         SYSVMSG                 #SYSV-style message queues
options         SYSVSEM                 #SYSV-style semaphores
options         MD5
options         DDB
options         ICMP_BANDLIM
options         P1003_1B
options         _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
options         _KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L
options         MSGBUF_SIZE=40960
options         PNPBIOS
device  isa
device  pci
device  fdc0    at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 8 drq 2
device  fd0     at fdc0 drive 0
device  ata
device  atadisk
device  atapicd
device  scbus           # SCSI bus (required)
device  da              # Direct Access (disks)
device  pass            # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
device          atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD
device          atkbd0  at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x2
device          psm0    at atkbdc? irq 12
device          vga0    at isa?
pseudo-device   splash
device          sc0     at isa?
options         SC_HISTORY_SIZE=32768
options         SC_NORM_ATTR=(FG_GREEN|BG_BLACK)
options         SC_NORM_REV_ATTR=(FG_YELLOW|BG_BLACK)
options         SC_KERNEL_CONS_ATTR=(FG_LIGHTGREEN|BG_BLACK)
options         SC_KERNEL_CONS_REV_ATTR=(FG_YELLOW|BG_BLACK)
options         SC_DEBUG_LEVEL=5
device          npx0    at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13
device          apm0    at nexus? flags 0x31 # Advanced Power Management
device          card
device          pcic0   at isa?
device          pcic1   at isa?
device          sio0    at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
device  ppc0    at isa? irq 7
device  ppbus   # Parallel port bus (required)
device          ep
device          xe0
device          wi
device          aic0    at isa?
device pcm
device csa
pseudo-device   loop            # Network loopback
pseudo-device   ether           # Ethernet support
pseudo-device   tun             # Packet tunnel.
pseudo-device   pty             # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
pseudo-device   md              # Memory "disks"
pseudo-device   gif     4       # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
pseudo-device   faith   1       # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)
pseudo-device   streams
pseudo-device   bpf             #Berkeley packet filter
device  uhci            # UHCI PCI->USB interface
device  ohci            # OHCI PCI->USB interface
device  usb             # USB Bus (required)

--- End Kernel Config File ---


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That is what mergemaster does, it places everything you could ever need in
a temporary root, diffs it against /etc, merges anything existing, tells
you if there is a file that you do not have, you answer 'i' and it installs
the default file. 

Despite the name, mergemaster is not only for merging, it's about the most
handy tool I've ever come across for make worlds, makes updating configs a
very easy task indeed. Doug definately deserves a few hundred pats on the
back for that program.

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, William Woods wrote:

: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:31:26 -0500
: From: William Woods <wwoods@cybcon.com>
: Reply-To: bwoods2@uswest.net
: To: Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
: Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, Jay Oliver <kythorn@scorched.com>,
:      bwoods2@uswest.net
: Subject: Re: sshd in current....no config files in /etc/ssh
: 
: Good god, I am saying that the files to merger dont exist....there is nothing
: to merge...
: 
: This is the eror I get when trying to run ssdd....
: 
: /etc/ssh/sshd_config: No such file or directory  
: 
: the file sshd_config does not exist on my system to merge...
: 
: On 07-Mar-00 Steve Kargl wrote:
: > William Woods wrote:
: >> OK, well, I useally merge files by hand because I am not familiar with
: >> mergemaster......how would I do this by hand?
: >> 
: > 
: > man mergemaster
: > 
: > If you insist on doing it by hand, start with 
: > "diff -urN /etc /usr/src/etc"
: >  
: > -- 
: > Steve
: 
: 
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On Mon, 06 Mar 2000 21:35:31 PST, Christopher Nielsen wrote:

> After booting, starting all services, and getting to the point where
> init usually spawns the getty processes on ttyv[0-7], I get no login
> prompts and no virtual terminal sessions.

You should probably show us your /etc/ttys, not your kernel config. :-)

Also, have a look in /var/log/messages for error messages from getty(8).

Ciao,
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On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 07:14:42PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 10:19:57AM -0800, Brooks Davis wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 11:01:09AM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote:
> > > To which the response has been nil.  At this point, you're either all
> > > struck dumb by the staggering simplicity and elegance of this approach,
> > > or you're sat there slowly shaking your head, wondering how I could be
> > > quite so stupid :-)
> > > 
> > > Come on then, which is it?
> > 
> > To be honest it seems like a complete waste of time and a hugh pain in
> > the rear.  All you need to do is build a 4.0 kernel, install it under
> > some random name (say /kernel.current) boot with it to insure that it
> > works.  
> 
> That, at least, was not the case with an upgrade I attempted a few days 
> ago.  On booting with kernel.GENERIC (from -current) it hung mounting the
> disks.  Trying to go back to kernel.stable didn't work, because I'd had 
> to update the /dev entries for -current, and they wouldn't work with
> -stable.  I had to dig out fixit floppies and restore from a backup.
> 
> Ordinarily, you'd make sure that userland, /dev, and the kernel are all
> in sync before you reboot.  However, in this case (and as advised by
> src/UPDATING) you have to reboot with a new kernel after updating /dev,
> but before you update the userland.

You don't need to update /dev though.  As long as you don't change
anything else, a 4.0 kernel will work just fine with a 3.x /dev and
userland (other then top and friends).  You can delay updating /dev
until later as the ata code will deal with wd devices as well as ad
devices.  I built my current laptop configuration by installing 3.3 from
CD, cvsuping to 4.0, installing a new kernel, and then building and
installing world.  I looked at UPDATING.  I think it's wrong.  It should
have you test a new kernel before rebuilding /dev.  You should do it,
but like the scsi disk renaming it isn't mandatory, at least for now.
I think the problem is that UPDATING is a bit to optomistic about
things.  If you have a system that works with the new ata driver it's
correct, but otherwise it's a good way to waste your system. :-(

-- Brooks

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troutmask:root[204] locate sshd_config
/usr/local/etc/sshd_config
/usr/src/crypto/openssh/sshd_config

man locate
man 8 sshd


William Woods wrote:
> Good god, I am saying that the files to merger dont exist....there is nothing
> to merge...

I don't see you making that statement below.  You said "OK, well,
I useally merge files by hand because I am not familiar with
mergemaster......how would I do this by hand?"

"man mergemaster" will familiarize you with the command.
"diff ..." is how you might start to do it by hand.

If a file does not appear to exist (oh, ah, such as /etc/sshd_config),
try RTFM.

> 
> This is the eror I get when trying to run ssdd....
> 
> /etc/ssh/sshd_config: No such file or directory  
> 
> the file sshd_config does not exist on my system to merge...
> 
> On 07-Mar-00 Steve Kargl wrote:
> > William Woods wrote:
> >> OK, well, I useally merge files by hand because I am not familiar with
> >> mergemaster......how would I do this by hand?
> >> 
> > 
> > man mergemaster
> > 
> > If you insist on doing it by hand, start with 
> > "diff -urN /etc /usr/src/etc"
> >  
> > -- 
> > Steve
> 
> 
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* Christopher Nielsen <cnielsen@pobox.com> [000307 12:09] wrote:
> After much perusing of source code, scouring of cvs log messages, and
> searching the archives, I've determined I have no idea where else to
> look for this problem I'm having.
> 
> The problem is this:
> 
> After booting, starting all services, and getting to the point where
> init usually spawns the getty processes on ttyv[0-7], I get no login
> prompts and no virtual terminal sessions.

When was the last time you've cvsup'd and built world before it
broke? I added some functionality to init, but that was about 2
weeks ago.

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On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 11:26:03AM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote:
> Is it supposed to be possible to drop a "1024-bit" host key from the old
> ssh1 port into /etc/ssh?
It works for me. I've created my host key with ssh-1.2.26 and the base system
OpenSSH accepted it without any problems. 


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On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 11:56:32AM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> +	make buildkernel installkernel KERNEL="NAME_OF_YOUR_KERNEL"
You should skip the "KERNEL=..." part. buildkernel and installkernel use
KERNEL for *everything* - including the filename of the new kernel. In other
words:
root@nathan# ls -l / | grep '^-'
[.profile, .cshrc, COPYRIGHT]
-r-xr-xr-x   1 root  wheel  2130036  5 Mär 18:00 kernel
root@nathan# make buildkernel KERNEL=UE && make installkernel KERNEL=UE
[several minutes later]
root@nathan# ls -l / | grep '^-'
[.profile, .cshrc, COPYRIGHT]
-r-xr-xr-x   1 root  wheel  2130036  7 Mär 19:39 UE
-r-xr-xr-x   1 root  wheel  2130036  5 Mär 18:00 kernel

And upon reboot, the system will boot /kernel, not /UE. 4.0-current as of
05-MAR-2000. 

"make buildkernel" and "make installkernel" use GENERIC and kernel for the
config file and the filename of the kernel. UPDATING should only contain
this basic version. BTW, make buildkernel KERNEL=GENERIC;make installkernel
KERNEL=GENERIC installs /GENERIC :(

The big question: Is it a bug or is it a feature? Being able to create
a kernel without messing with your existing kernel is an important feature
for large installations: A dedicated build server could create WEBKERNEL,
MAILKERNEL, FIREWALLKERNEL, SCSIKERNEL, IDEKERNEL etc. to be used by other
machines.

On the other hand, a lot of people will small/one-machine installations
will wonder just why their new kernel doesn't work as expected. And yes,
I've been there...

/s/Udo (working on a possible solution for this problem)
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Richard J Kuhns wrote:

> I've installed a Tcl/Tk version of ssh-askpass in /usr/local/bin (which
> works by itself; I've tried it). I've also set SSH_ASKPASS_ENV to
> /usr/local/bin/ssh-askpass, but it hasn't made any difference.

ben@platinum:/usr/src/crypto/openssh$ grep ssh-askpass *
ssh.h: * Default path to ssh-askpass used by ssh-add,
ssh.h:#define SSH_ASKPASS_DEFAULT       "/usr/X11R6/bin/ssh-askpass"

have you tried putting it in that location?

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> 
>    A quick question before I try to come up with a fix and
> patches for a problem that I believe to be a moving target.
> 
>    I have run 'make release' to create 4.0-20000306-SNAP with
> sources current as of 2am March 6th.  When running sysinstall
> and selecting <ALL> the encryption components, sysinstall
> fails trying to locate crypto/des.inf. When looking through
> /usr/src/release/Makefile, it doesn't appear that des.inf
> and des.?? are created anymore, but instead located in
> crypto.inf and crypto.??.
> 
>    So, I believe sysinstall needs to be updated so des.??
> is not installed anymore.

Hmmmm, so that is what it is. I also saw it break when I tried to
install a release with crypto stuff, but hadn't had a chance to
find out why it happened.

John
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I did the following to manually set up ssh after the world build:

	cp /usr/src/crypto/openssh/sshd_config /etc/ssh

It's as simple as that.  Then when you reboot next, the host key
will be regenerated by /etc/rc.network, provided you updated that from 
/usr/src/etc as well.  If you don't want to wait until reboot
to start sshd, do:

	/usr/bin/ssh-keygen -N "" -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key

This is the command used by /etc/rc.network.

It Worked For Me.

You know people, it's quite sad that those with knowledge simply refuse
to answer simple questions without "RTFM" attitudes and indirect (and
more frequently direct) insults to intelligence and sensibilities.

There is absolutely no reason why you can't submit the help, with 
suggestion toward ones perception of "the Right Way" to do it, 
rather than beat the issue to death with superior posturing.

Pursue your Ideal Methodologies, but try some constructiveness rather
than the Attitudes of the Norm common on other development lists.

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Thanks....I used that "i" option and it worked...well, almost. I have the files
I need in /etc/ssh but when I start sshd I get this now.....

error: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key: No such file or
directory 


On 07-Mar-00 Matt Heckaman wrote:
> That is what mergemaster does, it places everything you could ever need in
> a temporary root, diffs it against /etc, merges anything existing, tells
> you if there is a file that you do not have, you answer 'i' and it installs
> the default file. 
> 
> Despite the name, mergemaster is not only for merging, it's about the most
> handy tool I've ever come across for make worlds, makes updating configs a
> very easy task indeed. Doug definately deserves a few hundred pats on the
> back for that program.
> 
> Matt
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> 
> On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, William Woods wrote:
> 
>: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:31:26 -0500
>: From: William Woods <wwoods@cybcon.com>
>: Reply-To: bwoods2@uswest.net
>: To: Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
>: Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, Jay Oliver <kythorn@scorched.com>,
>:      bwoods2@uswest.net
>: Subject: Re: sshd in current....no config files in /etc/ssh
>: 
>: Good god, I am saying that the files to merger dont exist....there is
>: nothing
>: to merge...
>: 
>: This is the eror I get when trying to run ssdd....
>: 
>: /etc/ssh/sshd_config: No such file or directory  
>: 
>: the file sshd_config does not exist on my system to merge...
>: 
>: On 07-Mar-00 Steve Kargl wrote:
>: > William Woods wrote:
>: >> OK, well, I useally merge files by hand because I am not familiar with
>: >> mergemaster......how would I do this by hand?
>: >> 
>: > 
>: > man mergemaster
>: > 
>: > If you insist on doing it by hand, start with 
>: > "diff -urN /etc /usr/src/etc"
>: >  
>: > -- 
>: > Steve
>: 
>: 
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>>>>> "Sheldon" == Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@uunet.co.za> writes:

    Sheldon> You should probably show us your /etc/ttys, not your
    Sheldon> kernel config. :-)

Doh! I meant to do that. :-)
See below.

    Sheldon> Also, have a look in /var/log/messages for error messages
    Sheldon> from getty(8).

No error messages from getty, but I also forgot to include that I
turned on maximum debugging for the syscons driver. I'm attaching my
dmesg output, too.

--- Begin dmesg output ---

Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
	The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #24: Mon Mar  6 20:41:55 PST 2000
    root@ender.scient.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/ENDER
Calibrating clock(s) ... TSC clock: 297766253 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193106 Hz
CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CLK_USE_TSC_CALIBRATION not specified - using old calibration method
CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (297.79-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x652  Stepping = 2
  Features=0x183f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR>
real memory  = 133169152 (130048K bytes)
Physical memory chunk(s):
0x00001000 - 0x0009efff, 647168 bytes (158 pages)
0x0034d000 - 0x07ef5fff, 129667072 bytes (31657 pages)
sc0: releasing kbd0
sc0: kbd_release returned 0
sc0: kbd != NULL!, index:0, unit:0, flags:0x150000
sc0: keyboard 0
sc0: kbd index:0, unit:0, flags:0x350000
avail memory = 120524800 (117700K bytes)
bios32: Found BIOS32 Service Directory header at 0xc00fd800
bios32: Entry = 0xfd820 (c00fd820)  Rev = 0  Len = 1
pcibios: PCI BIOS entry at 0x0
pnpbios: Found PnP BIOS data at 0xc00fe700
pnpbios: Entry = f0000:e724  Rev = 1.0
pnpbios: Event flag at 415
Other BIOS signatures found:
ACPI: 000fd6e0
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0334000.
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
md0: Malloc disk
Creating DISK md0
pci_open(1):	mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x000038c8
pci_open(1a):	mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000)
pci_cfgcheck:	device 0 [class=060000] [hdr=00] is there (id=71908086)
npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
apm0: <APM BIOS> on motherboard
apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2
pci_open(1):	mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x00000000
pci_open(1a):	mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000)
pci_cfgcheck:	device 0 [class=060000] [hdr=00] is there (id=71908086)
pcib0: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
found->	vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7190, revid=0x02
	class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
	subordinatebus=0 	secondarybus=0
	map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 40000000, size 26
found->	vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7191, revid=0x02
	class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=0
	subordinatebus=1 	secondarybus=1
found->	vendor=0x104c, dev=0xac1d, revid=0x00
	class=06-07-00, hdrtype=0x02, mfdev=1
	subordinatebus=4 	secondarybus=2
	intpin=a, irq=255
	map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 50102000, size 12
found->	vendor=0x104c, dev=0xac1d, revid=0x00
	class=06-07-00, hdrtype=0x02, mfdev=1
	subordinatebus=7 	secondarybus=5
	intpin=b, irq=255
	map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 50101000, size 12
found->	vendor=0x1013, dev=0x6001, revid=0x01
	class=04-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
	subordinatebus=0 	secondarybus=0
	intpin=a, irq=0
found->	vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7110, revid=0x02
	class=06-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1
	subordinatebus=0 	secondarybus=0
found->	vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7111, revid=0x01
	class=01-01-80, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
	subordinatebus=0 	secondarybus=0
	map[20]: type 1, range 32, base 0000fcf0, size  4
found->	vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7112, revid=0x01
	class=0c-03-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
	subordinatebus=0 	secondarybus=0
	intpin=d, irq=255
	map[20]: type 1, range 32, base 00008400, size  5
found->	vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7113, revid=0x02
	class=06-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
	subordinatebus=0 	secondarybus=0
	map[90]: type 1, range 32, base 0000efa0, size  4
pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
pcib1: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) PCI-PCI (AGP) bridge> at device 1.0 on pci0
found->	vendor=0x1023, dev=0x939a, revid=0xf3
	class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
	subordinatebus=0 	secondarybus=0
	intpin=a, irq=255
	map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 70800000, size 23
	map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 71000000, size 17
	map[18]: type 1, range 32, base 70000000, size 23
pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib1
pci1: <Trident model 939a VGA-compatible display device> (vendor=0x1023, dev=0x939a) at 0.0
pcic-pci0: <TI PCI-1251 PCI-CardBus Bridge> mem 0x50102000-0x50102fff at device 2.0 on pci0
PCI Config space:
00:  ac1d104c 02100007 06070000 0082a808
10:  50102000 020000a0 b0040200 00000000
20:  00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
30:  00000000 00000000 00000000 03c001ff
40:  00eb1014 000003e1 00000000 00000000
50:  00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
60:  00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
70:  00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
80:  00449060 00000000 01818148 fba97543
90:  606283c0 00000000 00000000 00000000
Cardbus Socket registers:
00:  0000000f: 00000000: 30000510: 00000000:
10:  00000000: 00000000: 00000000: 00000000:
ExCa registers:
00: 83 0c 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
10: 00 00 00 00 00 00 c0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
pcic-pci1: <TI PCI-1251 PCI-CardBus Bridge> mem 0x50101000-0x50101fff at device 2.1 on pci0
PCI Config space:
00:  ac1d104c 02100007 06070000 0082a808
10:  50101000 020000a0 b0070500 00000000
20:  00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
30:  00000000 00000000 00000000 03c002ff
40:  00eb1014 000003e1 00000000 00000000
50:  00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
60:  00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
70:  00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
80:  00449060 00000000 01818148 fba97543
90:  606282c0 00000000 00000000 00000000
Cardbus Socket registers:
00:  00000000: 00000000: 30000306: 00000000:
10:  00000000: 00000000: 00000000: 00000000:
ExCa registers:
00: 83 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
10: 00 00 00 00 00 00 c0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
csa0: <Crystal Semiconductor CS4610/4611 Audio accelerator> irq 0 at device 6.0 on pci0
device_probe_and_attach: csa0 attach returned 6
isab0: <Intel 82371AB PCI to ISA bridge> at device 7.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
atapci0: <Intel PIIX4 ATA33 controller> port 0xfcf0-0xfcff at device 7.1 on pci0
ata0: iobase=0x01f0 altiobase=0x03f6 bmaddr=0xfcf0
ata0: mask=03 status0=50 status1=00
ata0: mask=03 status0=50 status1=00
ata0: devices = 0x1
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: iobase=0x0170 altiobase=0x0376 bmaddr=0xfcf8
ata1: mask=03 status0=50 status1=01
ata1: mask=03 status0=00 status1=01
ata1: devices = 0x4
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
uhci0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> port 0x8400-0x841f at device 7.2 on pci0
uhci0: Invalid irq 255
uhci0: Please switch on USB support and switch PNP-OS to 'No' in BIOS
device_probe_and_attach: uhci0 attach returned 6
chip1: <Intel 82371AB Power management controller> port 0xefa0-0xefaf at device 7.3 on pci0
pnpbios: 23 devices, largest 980 bytes
PNP0000: adding io range 0x20-0x21, size=0x2, align=0x1
PNP0000: adding io range 0xa0-0xa1, size=0x2, align=0x1
PNP0000: adding irq mask 00x4
PNP0000: start dependant
pnpbios: handle 0 device ID PNP0000 (0000d041)
PNP0200: adding io range 0-0xf, size=0x10, align=0x1
PNP0200: adding io range 0x80-0x8f, size=0x10, align=0x1
PNP0200: adding io range 0xc0-0xdf, size=0x20, align=0x1
PNP0200: adding dma mask 0x10
PNP0200: start dependant
pnpbios: handle 1 device ID PNP0200 (0002d041)
PNP0100: adding irq mask 00x1
PNP0100: adding io range 0x40-0x43, size=0x4, align=0x1
PNP0100: start dependant
pnpbios: handle 2 device ID PNP0100 (0001d041)
PNP0b00: adding irq mask 0x100
PNP0b00: adding io range 0x70-0x73, size=0x4, align=0x1
PNP0b00: start dependant
pnpbios: handle 3 device ID PNP0b00 (000bd041)
PNP0800: adding io range 0x61-0x61, size=0x1, align=0x1
PNP0800: start dependant
pnpbios: handle 4 device ID PNP0800 (0008d041)
PNP0303: adding irq mask 00x2
PNP0303: adding io range 0x60-0x60, size=0x1, align=0x1
PNP0303: adding io range 0x64-0x64, size=0x1, align=0x1
PNP0303: start dependant
pnpbios: handle 5 device ID PNP0303 (0303d041)
IBM3780: adding irq mask 0x1000
IBM3780: start dependant
pnpbios: handle 6 device ID IBM3780 (80374d24)
PNP0c04: adding io range 0xf0-0xff, size=0x10, align=0x1
PNP0c04: adding irq mask 0x2000
PNP0c04: start dependant
pnpbios: handle 7 device ID PNP0c04 (040cd041)
PNP0700: adding irq mask 0x40
PNP0700: adding io range 0x3f0-0x3f5, size=0x6, align=0x80
PNP0700: adding dma mask 0x4
PNP0700: start dependant
pnpbios: handle 8 device ID PNP0700 (0007d041)
PNP0a03: adding io range 0xcf8-0xcff, size=0x8, align=0
PNP0a03: start dependant
pnpbios: handle 9 device ID PNP0a03 (030ad041)
PNP0c02: adding io range 0x22-0x22, size=0x1, align=0
PNP0c02: adding io range 0x2e-0x2f, size=0x2, align=0
PNP0c02: adding io range 0x92-0x92, size=0x1, align=0
PNP0c02: adding io range 0xb2-0xb3, size=0x2, align=0
PNP0c02: adding io range 0x4d0-0x4d1, size=0x2, align=0
PNP0c02: adding io range 0x15e0-0x15ef, size=0x10, align=0
PNP0c02: adding io range 0xef00-0xefaf, size=0xb0, align=0
PNP0c02: adding memory range 0-0x9ffff, size=0xa0000
PNP0c02: adding memory range 0xf0000-0xfffff, size=0x10000
PNP0c02: adding memory range 0x100000-0x7ffffff, size=0x7f00000
PNP0c02: adding memory range 0xffff0000-0xffffffff, size=0x10000
PNP0c02: start dependant
pnpbios: handle 10 device ID PNP0c02 (020cd041)
PNP0400: adding irq mask 0x80
PNP0400: adding io range 0x378-0x37b, size=0x4, align=0
PNP0400: start dependant
pnpbios: handle 11 device ID PNP0400 (0004d041)
PNP0501: adding irq mask 0x10
PNP0501: adding io range 0x3f8-0x3ff, size=0x8, align=0
PNP0501: start dependant
pnpbios: handle 13 device ID PNP0501 (0105d041)
CSC0100: adding io range 0x530-0x537, size=0x8, align=0
CSC0100: adding io range 0x388-0x38b, size=0x4, align=0
CSC0100: adding io range 0x220-0x233, size=0x14, align=0x20
CSC0100: adding irq mask 0x400
CSC0100: adding dma mask 0x2
CSC0100: adding dma mask 0x1
CSC0100: start dependant
pnpbios: handle 14 device ID CSC0100 (0001630e)
CSC0110: adding io range 0x538-0x53f, size=0x8, align=0
CSC0110: start dependant
pnpbios: handle 15 device ID CSC0110 (1001630e)
CSC0101: adding io range 0-0xffffffff, size=0, align=0
CSC0101: start dependant
pnpbios: handle 16 device ID CSC0101 (0101630e)
CSC0103: adding io range 0x330-0x333, size=0x4, align=0x10
CSC0103: adding irq mask 0x800
CSC0103: start dependant
pnpbios: handle 17 device ID CSC0103 (0301630e)
IBM3765: adding io range 0-0xffffffff, size=0, align=0
IBM3765: adding io range 0-0xffffffff, size=0, align=0
IBM3765: adding irq mask 0000
IBM3765: adding irq mask 0000
IBM3765: adding dma mask 00
IBM3765: start dependant
pnpbios: handle 18 device ID IBM3765 (65374d24)
IBM0071: adding irq mask 0000
IBM0071: adding io range 0-0xffffffff, size=0, align=0x1
IBM0071: adding dma mask 00
IBM0071: start dependant
pnpbios: handle 19 device ID IBM0071 (71004d24)
PNP0e03: adding io range 0x3e0-0x3e1, size=0x2, align=0
PNP0e03: start dependant
pnpbios: handle 20 device ID PNP0e03 (030ed041)
PNP0680: adding irq mask 0x4000
PNP0680: adding io range 0x1f0-0x1f7, size=0x8, align=0
PNP0680: adding io range 0x3f6-0x3f7, size=0x2, align=0
PNP0680: adding io range 0xfcf0-0xfcf7, size=0x8, align=0
PNP0680: start dependant
pnpbios: handle 23 device ID PNP0680 (8006d041)
PNP0680: adding irq mask 0x8000
PNP0680: adding io range 0x170-0x177, size=0x8, align=0
PNP0680: adding io range 0x376-0x376, size=0x1, align=0
PNP0680: adding io range 0xfcf8-0xfcff, size=0x8, align=0
PNP0680: start dependant
pnpbios: handle 25 device ID PNP0680 (8006d041)
PNP0c02: adding io range 0x2100-0x217f, size=0x80, align=0
PNP0c02: adding io range 0x2180-0x21ff, size=0x80, align=0
PNP0c02: skipping empty range
PNP0c02: start dependant
pnpbios: handle 27 device ID PNP0c02 (020cd041)
Trying Read_Port at 203
Trying Read_Port at 243
Trying Read_Port at 283
Trying Read_Port at 2c3
Trying Read_Port at 303
Trying Read_Port at 343
Trying Read_Port at 383
Trying Read_Port at 3c3
isa_probe_children: disabling PnP devices
isa_probe_children: probing non-PnP devices
fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 8 drq 2 on isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
atkbdc0: <keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60-0x6f on isa0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> flags 0x2 irq 1 on atkbdc0
atkbd: the current kbd controller command byte 0065
atkbd: keyboard ID 0x54ab (2)
kbd0: atkbd0, AT 101/102 (2), config:0x2, flags:0x3d0000
psm0: current command byte:0065
kbdc: TEST_AUX_PORT status:0000
kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:00fa
kbdc: RESET_AUX status:00aa
kbdc: RESET_AUX ID:0000
psm: status 00 02 64
psm: status 00 00 64
psm: status 00 03 64
psm: status 00 03 64
psm: status 10 00 64
psm: data 08 00 00
psm: status 00 02 64
psm: data 08 00 00
psm: status 00 02 64
psm0: <PS/2 Mouse> irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0-00, 2 buttons
psm0: config:00000000, flags:00000000, packet size:3
psm0: syncmask:c0, syncbits:00
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
fb0: vga0, vga, type:VGA (5), flags:0x7007f
fb0: port:0x3c0-0x3df, crtc:0x3d4, mem:0xa0000 0x20000
fb0: init mode:24, bios mode:3, current mode:24
fb0: window:0xc00b8000 size:32k gran:32k, buf:0 size:32k
vga0: vga: WARNING: video mode switching is not fully supported on this adapter
VGA parameters upon power-up
50 18 10 00 00 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 
bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 04 b0 9c ce 8f 28 1f 96 
b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 
3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff 
VGA parameters in BIOS for mode 24
50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 
bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 
b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 
3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff 
EGA/VGA parameters to be used for mode 24
50 18 10 00 00 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 
bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 04 b0 9c ce 8f 28 1f 96 
b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 
3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff 
sc0: <System console> on isa0
sc0: releasing kbd0
sc0: kbd_release returned 0
sc0: kbd != NULL!, index:0, unit:0, flags:0x1d0000
sc0: keyboard 0
sc0: kbd index:0, unit:0, flags:0x3d0000
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200>
sc0: fb0, kbd0, terminal emulator: sc (syscons terminal)
pcic: management irq 3
pcic0: <Intel i82365> at irq 3 on isa0
pccard0: <PC Card bus -- kludge version> on pcic0
pccard1: <PC Card bus -- kludge version> on pcic0
sio0: irq maps: 0x49 0x59 0x49 0x49
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
ppc0: parallel port found at 0x378
ppc0: EPP SPP
ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices
unknown: <PNP0000> can't assign resources
unknown0: <PNP0200> at port 0-0xf,0x80-0x8f,0xc0-0xdf drq 4 on isa0
unknown1: <PNP0100> at port 0x40-0x43 irq 0 on isa0
unknown: <PNP0b00> can't assign resources
unknown: <PNP0800> can't assign resources
unknown: <PNP0303> can't assign resources
unknown: <IBM3780> can't assign resources
unknown2: <PNP0c04> at port 0xf0-0xff irq 13 on isa0
unknown: <PNP0700> can't assign resources
unknown3: <PNP0a03> at port 0xcf8-0xcff on isa0
unknown4: <PNP0c02> at port 0x22,0x2e-0x2f,0x92,0xb2-0xb3,0x4d0-0x4d1,0x15e0-0x15ef,0xef00-0xefaf iomem 0-0x9ffff,0xf0000-0xfffff,0x100000-0x7ffffff,0xffff0000-0xffffffff on isa0
unknown: <PNP0400> can't assign resources
unknown: <PNP0501> can't assign resources
pcm0: <CS423x-PCI> at port 0x530-0x537,0x388-0x38b,0x220-0x233 irq 10 drq 1,0 on isa0
pcm: setmap 30000, ff00; 0xc8574000 -> 30000
pcm: setmap 40000, ff00; 0xc8584000 -> 40000
unknown5: <CSC0110> at port 0x538-0x53f on isa0
unknown6: <CSC0101> at port 0x10 on isa0
unknown7: <CSC0103> at port 0x330-0x333 irq 11 on isa0
unknown: <IBM3765> can't assign resources
unknown: <IBM0071> can't assign resources
unknown8: <PNP0e03> at port 0x3e0-0x3e1 on isa0
unknown: <PNP0680> can't assign resources
unknown: <PNP0680> can't assign resources
unknown9: <PNP0c02> at port 0x2100-0x217f,0x2180-0x21ff on isa0
BIOS Geometries:
 0:03feef3f 0..1022=1023 cylinders, 0..239=240 heads, 1..63=63 sectors
 0 accounted for
Device configuration finished.
bpf: lo0 attached
bpf: gif0 attached
bpf: gif1 attached
bpf: gif2 attached
bpf: gif3 attached
bpf: faith0 attached
IPsec: Initialized Security Association Processing.
ata0-master: success setting up UDMA2 mode on PIIX4 chip
ad0: <IBM-DYLA-28100/YSAIA22H> ATA-3 disk at ata0 as master
ad0: 7815MB (16006410 sectors), 16938 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S
ad0: 16 secs/int, 1 depth queue, UDMA33
ad0: piomode=4 dmamode=2 udmamode=2 cblid=0
Creating DISK ad0
Creating DISK wd0
ata1-master: piomode=4 dmamode=2 udmamode=-1 dmaflag=1
ata1-master: success setting up PIO4 mode on generic chip
acd0: <MATSHITADVD-ROM SR-8171/067B> DVD-ROM drive at ata1 as master
acd0: read 3437KB/s (3437KB/s), 512KB buffer, PIO4
acd0: Reads: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA, DVD-ROM, packet
acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels
acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray
acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0a
pccard: card inserted, slot 0
ad0s1: type 0xa5, start 0, end = 16006409, size 16006410 : OK
start_init: trying /sbin/init
scopen: dev:12,255, unit:0, vty:255
Linux-ELF exec handler installed
pcic: I/O win 0 flags 17 240-24f
pcic: I/O win 0 flags 7 240-24f
ep0: <3Com Etherlink III 3C589> at port 0x240-0x24f irq 9 slot 0 on pccard0
pcic: I/O win 0 flags 17 240-24f
ep0: Ethernet address 00:10:4b:de:51:8c
ep0: supplying EUI64: 00:10:4b:ff:fe:de:51:8c
bpf: ep0 attached
svr4 ELF exec handler installed
scopen: dev:12,0, unit:0, vty:0
ep0: starting DAD for fe80:0007::0210:4bff:fede:518c
sc0: scclose(), done.
scopen: dev:12,0, unit:0, vty:0
sc0: scclose(), done.
scopen: dev:12,1, unit:0, vty:1
sc0: scclose(), done.
scopen: dev:12,2, unit:0, vty:2
sc0: scclose(), done.
scopen: dev:12,3, unit:0, vty:3
sc0: scclose(), done.
scopen: dev:12,4, unit:0, vty:4
sc0: scclose(), done.
scopen: dev:12,5, unit:0, vty:5
ep0: DAD complete for fe80:0007::0210:4bff:fede:518c - no duplicates found

--- End dmesg output ---

--- Begin /etc/ttys ---

#
# $FreeBSD: src/etc/etc.i386/ttys,v 1.6 1999/08/27 23:23:57 peter Exp $
#	@(#)ttys	5.1 (Berkeley) 4/17/89
#
# This file specifies various information about terminals on the system.
# It is used by several different programs.  Common entries for the
# various columns include:
#
# name  The name of the terminal device.
#
# getty The program to start running on the terminal.  Typically a
#       getty program, as the name implies.  Other common entries
#       include none, when no getty is needed, and xdm, to start the
#       X Window System.
#
# type The initial terminal type for this port.  For hardwired
#      terminal lines, this will contain the type of terminal used.
#      For virtual consoles, the correct type is cons25.  Other
#      common values include network for network connections on
#      pseudo-terminals, dialup for incoming modem ports, and unknown
#      when the terminal type cannot be predetermined.
#
# status Must be on or off.  If on, init will run the getty program on
#        the specified port.  If the word "secure" appears, this tty
#        allows root login.
#
# name	getty				type	status		comments
#
# If console is marked "insecure", then init will ask for the root password
# when going to single-user mode.
console	none				unknown	off insecure
#
ttyv0	"/usr/libexec/getty Pc"		cons25	on  secure
# Virtual terminals
ttyv1	"/usr/libexec/getty Pc"		cons25	on  insecure
ttyv2	"/usr/libexec/getty Pc"		cons25	on  insecure
ttyv3	"/usr/libexec/getty Pc"		cons25	on  insecure
ttyv4	"/usr/libexec/getty Pc"		cons25	on  insecure
ttyv5	"/usr/libexec/getty Pc"		cons25	on  insecure
ttyv6	"/usr/libexec/getty Pc"		cons25	on  insecure
ttyv7	"/usr/libexec/getty Pc"		cons25	on  insecure
ttyv8	"/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon"	xterm	on  insecure
# Serial terminals
# The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc.
ttyd0	"/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"	dialup	off secure
ttyd1	"/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"	dialup	off secure
ttyd2	"/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"	dialup	off secure
ttyd3	"/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"	dialup	off secure
# Pseudo terminals
ttyp0	none			network
ttyp1	none			network
ttyp2	none			network
ttyp3	none			network
ttyp4	none			network
ttyp5	none			network
ttyp6	none			network
ttyp7	none			network
ttyp8	none			network
ttyp9	none			network
ttypa	none			network
ttypb	none			network
ttypc	none			network
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ttype	none			network
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ttypg	none			network
ttyph	none			network
ttypi	none			network
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ttypk	none			network
ttypl	none			network
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ttypn	none			network
ttypo	none			network
ttypp	none			network
ttypq	none			network
ttypr	none			network
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ttyqu	none			network
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ttyrf	none			network
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ttyrk	none			network
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ttyru	none			network
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ttyP4	none			network
ttyP5	none			network
ttyP6	none			network
ttyP7	none			network
ttyP8	none			network
ttyP9	none			network
ttyPa	none			network
ttyPb	none			network
ttyPc	none			network
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ttyPe	none			network
ttyPf	none			network
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ttyPh	none			network
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ttyPl	none			network
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ttyPt	none			network
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ttyQb	none			network
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ttyQd	none			network
ttyQe	none			network
ttyQf	none			network
ttyQg	none			network
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ttyQi	none			network
ttyQj	none			network
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ttyQu	none			network
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ttyR2	none			network
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ttyR7	none			network
ttyR8	none			network
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ttyRb	none			network
ttyRc	none			network
ttyRd	none			network
ttyRe	none			network
ttyRf	none			network
ttyRg	none			network
ttyRh	none			network
ttyRi	none			network
ttyRj	none			network
ttyRk	none			network
ttyRl	none			network
ttyRm	none			network
ttyRn	none			network
ttyRo	none			network
ttyRp	none			network
ttyRq	none			network
ttyRr	none			network
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ttyRt	none			network
ttyRu	none			network
ttyRv	none			network
ttyS0	none			network
ttyS1	none			network
ttyS2	none			network
ttyS3	none			network
ttyS4	none			network
ttyS5	none			network
ttyS6	none			network
ttyS7	none			network
ttyS8	none			network
ttyS9	none			network
ttySa	none			network
ttySb	none			network
ttySc	none			network
ttySd	none			network
ttySe	none			network
ttySf	none			network
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ttySh	none			network
ttySi	none			network
ttySj	none			network
ttySk	none			network
ttySl	none			network
ttySm	none			network
ttySn	none			network
ttySo	none			network
ttySp	none			network
ttySq	none			network
ttySr	none			network
ttySs	none			network
ttySt	none			network
ttySu	none			network
ttySv	none			network

--- End /etc/ttys ---


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>>>>> "Alfred" == Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net> writes:

    Alfred> When was the last time you've cvsup'd and built world
    Alfred> before it broke? I added some functionality to init, but
    Alfred> that was about 2 weeks ago.

That's not the problem. I already tried backing it out of my local
tree and rebuilding init. Same behavior. :-)

I cvsup'd yesterday around 6PM. I built and installed world
immediately after that and then built and installed a new kernel.

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Richard J Kuhns wrote:

> I just built- and installed- world about an hour ago, and removed the
> ssh-1.2.27 port.  The build and install went without a problem, but I've
> apparently lost some functionality.
> 
> I spend most of my time in xemacs, and I make heavy use of CVS to access a
> couple of remote repositories.  I've had CVS_RSH=ssh for quite some time,
> and use vc (the emacs/xemacs interface to CVS) to handle my sources.  Up
> until this morning, it worked fine.  Whenever I needed to access a remote
> repository, a window popped up to ask for my password.  Now, I just get an
> error message saying "You have no controlling tty.  Cannot read
> passphrase."
> 
> I've installed a Tcl/Tk version of ssh-askpass in /usr/local/bin (which
> works by itself; I've tried it). I've also set SSH_ASKPASS_ENV to
> /usr/local/bin/ssh-askpass, but it hasn't made any difference.

I have the OpenSSH-ssh-askpass port installed (which created the program
/usr/X11R6/bin/ssh-askpass), and I use the command

env SSH_ASKPASS=/usr/X11R6/bin/ssh-askpass /usr/bin/ssh-add

in my X session startup scripts to make ssh-add use ssh-askpass to request
my ssh passphrase.  It seems to me that the name of the environment
variable you are using is incorrect (remove "_ENV" from the end).

Guy

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* Christopher Nielsen <cnielsen@pobox.com> [000307 12:50] wrote:
> >>>>> "Alfred" == Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net> writes:
> 
>     Alfred> When was the last time you've cvsup'd and built world
>     Alfred> before it broke? I added some functionality to init, but
>     Alfred> that was about 2 weeks ago.
> 
> That's not the problem. I already tried backing it out of my local
> tree and rebuilding init. Same behavior. :-)
> 
> I cvsup'd yesterday around 6PM. I built and installed world
> immediately after that and then built and installed a new kernel.

*phew* 

Thanks for testing this.

-Alfred


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On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 06:48:56PM +0100, Brad Knowles wrote:
> Must be a FreeBSD vs. Solaris thing
Are you using OpenSSH or the 'normal' ssh on your Solaris box? I've just
tried to copy files between my FreeBSD box @home and one of 'my' Solaris
boxes @work. All four possible directions work exactly as expected with
both binary and text files.

@home: FreeBSD 4.0, 05-MAR-2000, USA_RESIDENT=NO
SSH Version OpenSSH-1.2.2, protocol version 1.5. Compiled with SSL.

@work: SunOS [...] 5.6 Generic_105181-05 [...]
SSH Version 1.2.27 [sparc-sun-solaris2.6], protocol version 1.5.
Standard version.  Does not use RSAREF.

/s/Udo
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Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be> wrote:

> 	I've been following this thread for a while, and I'd like to ask 
> a related question -- can anyone else successfully use scp with 
> OpenSSH?

An emphatic YES--for incrementally improving versions of OpenSSH
over the last couple of months, on FreeBSD/i386, OpenBSD/sparc,
OpenBSD/alpha, and Red Hat Linux/alpha. Interoperability with
Ylonen-SSH 1.2.xx on various platforms is also fine.

I don't know why there are so many detractors. Since I also play
around with OpenBSD, I've followed OpenSSH from relatively early
on, and I've experienced some of the initial growing pains. However,
OpenSSH has been rather mature for quite some time now, and I've
replaced Ylonen-SSH with OpenSSH on all machines where I have the
authority to do so.

> On the one machine on which I've installed OpenSSH so far, 
> it appears that scp into the machine is totally broken.

There's something broken in your ssh{,d} setup.

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Hi,
	is FreeBSD-4.0-RELEASE going to happen anytime soon ?


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On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, John Polstra wrote:

> In the past I have had interoperability problems between F-Secure
> and the open source versions of ssh.  But the cause then was simply
> that the F-Secure keys were too long (> 1024 bits) for ssh's rsaref
> to cope with.

That would certainly do it. OpenSSH should probably print a more helpful
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Kris

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, John Polstra wrote:

> In the past I have had interoperability problems between F-Secure
> and the open source versions of ssh.  But the cause then was simply
> that the F-Secure keys were too long (> 1024 bits) for ssh's rsaref
> to cope with.

That would certainly do it. OpenSSH should probably print a more helpful
error message in this case, though.

Kris

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Richard J Kuhns wrote:

> I've installed a Tcl/Tk version of ssh-askpass in /usr/local/bin (which
> works by itself; I've tried it). I've also set SSH_ASKPASS_ENV to
> /usr/local/bin/ssh-askpass, but it hasn't made any difference.

There's an X11 version in /usr/ports/security/openssh-askpass, but it
should probably work with other "equivalent" versions. By default it looks
for it in /usr/X11R6/bin/ssh-askpass (compile-time define), but can be
overridden using the SSH_ASKPATH environment variable. This is documented
in the ssh-add(1) manpage :-)

Kris

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, William Woods wrote:

> Thanks....I used that "i" option and it worked...well, almost. I have the files
> I need in /etc/ssh but when I start sshd I get this now.....
> 
> error: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key: No such file or
> directory 

It will be created for you next time you boot, or you can do it by hand
(man ssh-keygen)..

Kris

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Thank you...

On 07-Mar-00 Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, William Woods wrote:
> 
>> Thanks....I used that "i" option and it worked...well, almost. I have the
>> files
>> I need in /etc/ssh but when I start sshd I get this now.....
>> 
>> error: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key: No such file or
>> directory 
> 
> It will be created for you next time you boot, or you can do it by hand
> (man ssh-keygen)..
> 
> Kris
> 
> ----
> In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate.
>     -- Charles Forsythe <forsythe@alum.mit.edu>
> 
> 
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>Very unfortunately, 6to4 is not yet supported in FreeBSD/KAME.
>So now available options will be,
> -Use freenet6 (for one hosts).
> -Get IPv6 address block and connect to 6bone using gif tunnel.

	We hope to add 6to4 support for KAME/FreeBSD very soon (next week is a
	good guess).   We may need some more testing before real use,
	but it should work.  it is in KAME/NetBSD already, I just don't have
	time to make it work on othre *BSDs yet...

itojun


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oN tUE, mAR 07, 2000 AT 05:05:40PM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 01:02:29AM +1000, Idea Receiver wrote:
> [...]
> > btw, I have problem to make release, it kept complain about that i didnt
> > set the USA_RESIDENT, however, I did! both in /etc and /etc/defaults. Can 
> > please someone help me out with this as well..
> > 
> > thanks :)
> 
> Set USA_RESIDENT in environment rather than in /etc.

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, William Woods wrote:

> Good god, I am saying that the files to merger dont exist....there is nothing
> to merge...
> 
> This is the eror I get when trying to run ssdd....
> 
> /etc/ssh/sshd_config: No such file or directory  
> 
> the file sshd_config does not exist on my system to merge...

That's because it's not under /etc until *after* you've run
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I am already running 4.0-CURRENT on machines to which I have
access, and have been doing for some time.  It's great stuff,
of course [!].

However, I have one machine (which is at the other end of
a few hours of driving involving the New Jersey Turnpike,
which is not my idea of fun) running 3.4-STABLE.  I update
it every so often via SSH, and everything is fine.

In reading UPDATING (and -current), I can't see any way to upgrade
from 3.4-STABLE to (the future) 4.0-STABLE.  This is fair enough,
it being a major revision upgrade (can't see an easy way to
upgrade {AIX,Solaris,HPUX} through a major revision without access
to the console...), but in an effort to save several hour drive,
I figured I'd ask if anyone had had any success doing an upgrade
remotely...

So... anyone done it?

Best;

inw

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On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, R Joseph Wright wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, R Joseph Wright wrote:
> > 
> > > I just built a new world today and openssh does not appear to be
> > > installed.  I have the directories /etc/ssh and /etc/ssl but they are
> > > empty.  There is no /usr/bin/ssh.
> > > I've been trying to follow the discussions on this issue and I understood
> > > that this is now part of the default base system.  
> > 
> > Do you have the crypto sources installed?

I just re-cvsupped today with crypto and rebuilt.  Everything went as
smooth as summer butter. 
I'm really impressed with how quickly and cleanly you developers are able
to make things happen.  I've only been observing for a short time but it
is very interesting.



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Kris Kennaway writes:
 > On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Richard J Kuhns wrote:
 > 
 > > I've installed a Tcl/Tk version of ssh-askpass in /usr/local/bin (which
 > > works by itself; I've tried it). I've also set SSH_ASKPASS_ENV to
 > > /usr/local/bin/ssh-askpass, but it hasn't made any difference.
 > 
 > There's an X11 version in /usr/ports/security/openssh-askpass, but it
 > should probably work with other "equivalent" versions. By default it looks
 > for it in /usr/X11R6/bin/ssh-askpass (compile-time define), but can be
 > overridden using the SSH_ASKPATH environment variable. This is documented
 > in the ssh-add(1) manpage :-)
 > 
 > Kris

So does all this mean that I now have to start using ssh-add/ssh-agent?
Does that actually buy me anything?  I was under the impression that
ssh-agent was there to allow you to enter your passphrase once, and then
not have to do it again that session.  I *don't* want to do that; when I'm
on-site, I *want* to be prompted for my password when I attempt to commit
changes to a file (and I work with multiple repositories).

Thanks...

-- 
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Is there support for the adaptec 29160 U2 scsi controller? will
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> Thanks....I used that "i" option and it worked...well, almost. I have the files
> I need in /etc/ssh but when I start sshd I get this now.....
> 
> error: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key: No such file or
> directory 

If you want to track current you must use mergemaster.
This is probably because you haven't updated rc.network...

        case ${sshd_enable} in
        [Yy][Ee][Ss])
                if [ ! -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key ]; then
                        echo ' creating ssh host key';
                        /usr/bin/ssh-keygen -N "" -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key
                fi
                ;;
        esac

My host key was generated automatically when I rebooted and I was
quite impressed.

Just type 'mergemaster' as root.  It's interactive and doesn't overwrite
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Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@uunet.co.za> wrote:

> What about the off-by-one hostkey length problem?

The client gives a warning when you connect to an old server with
this problem.

> Is it supposed to be possible to drop a "1024-bit" host key from
> the old ssh1 port into /etc/ssh ?

I have switched several hosts from Ylonen-SSH to OpenSSH and have
retained all host keys.

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I recently set up a network at home to share an internet
connection with a win98 box.  Currently it's ppp/nat with a modem, in
a few days ADSL.  It works just fine for a while, but I'm experiencing
unexplained outages where I have to do an ifconfig dc1 down/up to wake
it up again. No error messages on the console.

I also installed Samba on the box which works great (as long as the
network is up).  I'm using a 3COM Home Connect hub.

Here's the output from ifconfig:

dc1: flags=8847<UP,BROADCAST,DEBUG,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
	inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
	ether 00:80:c6:f9:70:ec 
	media: autoselect (100baseTX) status: active
	supported media: autoselect 100baseTX <full-duplex> 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex> 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX <hw-loopback> none

dmesg:

dc0: <Macronix 98715/98715A 10/100BaseTX> port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xebfbfe00-0xebfbfeff irq 9 at device 4.0 on pci0
dc0: Ethernet address: 00:80:c6:f9:5b:0d
miibus0: <MII bus> on dc0
dcphy0: <Intel 21143 NWAY media interface> on miibus0
dcphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
dc1: <Macronix 98715/98715A 10/100BaseTX> port 0xec00-0xecff mem 0xebfbff00-0xebfbffff irq 10 at device 5.0 on pci0
dc1: Ethernet address: 00:80:c6:f9:70:ec
miibus1: <MII bus> on dc1
dcphy1: <Intel 21143 NWAY media interface> on miibus1
dcphy1:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto


I understand that this driver is new to 4.0, so I'm taking a shot
here.  Any ideas?

Thanks,
Bryan




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On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 12:02:38PM +0000, FreeBSD mailing list wrote:
> You know people, it's quite sad that those with knowledge simply refuse
> to answer simple questions without "RTFM" attitudes and indirect (and
> more frequently direct) insults to intelligence and sensibilities.

When you have more experience helping people on a frequent basis,
perhaps you will revise this statement. Try helping folks out every day
on IRC for 2 or 3 years and tell me what you think THEN. Alternative:
answer every question asked on freebsd-questions for same period.

You'll see the point once you accomplish this.

> There is absolutely no reason why you can't submit the help, with 
> suggestion toward ones perception of "the Right Way" to do it, 
> rather than beat the issue to death with superior posturing.

There is absolutely no reason why people should lift a finger to help
somebody else when said question/inquiry has been documented somewhere
on the web or in the manpages, or someplace else.

It's all about the old quote, "Catch a man a fish and you feed him for a
day. Teach a man how to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."

I believe Mike Smith has an abortion of this aphorism in his sig. ;-)

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Thanks,

I had been doing things manually for a while now. I dod look at mergemaster and
used it for ssh and it worked well. I am planning on investigating it more
later on today.

On 07-Mar-00 Jake Burkholder wrote:
>> Thanks....I used that "i" option and it worked...well, almost. I have the
>> files
>> I need in /etc/ssh but when I start sshd I get this now.....
>> 
>> error: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key: No such file or
>> directory 
> 
> If you want to track current you must use mergemaster.
> This is probably because you haven't updated rc.network...
> 
>         case ${sshd_enable} in
>         [Yy][Ee][Ss])
>                 if [ ! -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key ]; then
>                         echo ' creating ssh host key';
>                         /usr/bin/ssh-keygen -N "" -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key
>                 fi
>                 ;;
>         esac
> 
> My host key was generated automatically when I rebooted and I was
> quite impressed.
> 
> Just type 'mergemaster' as root.  It's interactive and doesn't overwrite
> anything automatically.


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On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 11:52:40 -1000, FreeBSD MAIL wrote:
> Is there support for the adaptec 29160 U2 scsi controller? will
> the 29xx driver work?

Yes, but only in -current after January 6th or so.  The ahc driver is the
driver that supports the Adaptec Ultra160 boards.

Right now it will only run those boards at Ultra2 speeds (80MB/sec), but
Justin is working on full Ultra160 support.

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>>>>> In <Pine.BSF.4.21.0003071715560.410-100000@nohow.demon.co.uk> 
>>>>>	Jose Marques <noway@nohow.demon.co.uk> wrote:

Jose> > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/TakeConsole is:
Jose> > 
Jose> > /usr/X11R6/bin/sessreg -d -l $DISPLAY -x /usr/X11R6/lib/xdm/Xservers $LOGNAME
Jose>                                                       ^^^^^^^
Jose> Missing X11 in path?

Ahhhhh... Thank you very much!

One problem is solved but another '/dev/:0' problem still remains.

$ w
w: /dev/:0: No such file or directory
 7:15AM  up  9:04, 1 user, load averages: 0.31, 0.15, 0.06
USER             TTY      FROM              LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
nakaji           p1       :0.0              7:15AM     - w
$ last | head
nakaji           :0       console          Wed Mar  8 07:15   still logged in
nakaji           :0       console          Wed Mar  8 07:11 - 07:15  (00:03)
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On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 14:33:18 -0600, Mohit Aron wrote:
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> 	is FreeBSD-4.0-RELEASE going to happen anytime soon ?

Looks like it is scheduled for Monday, March 13th.

Obviously that could change if problems crop up.

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Matthew N. Dodd wrote:

> I've been building and rebuilding in an attempt to make sure that its not
> some stupidity on my part.
> 
> Be assured that when I'm positive I've got a reproducable error that I'll
> let everyone in on the details.

	If you give us an idea where your breakage is, we can tell you if
it's a known problem. E.g., there is a known problem with PPP(D) and
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On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, John Daniels wrote:

> Oops:  That's kudos for John *Baldwin,* NOT "Barton."  A thousand pardons...

	Hey... calling him Barton is a _compliment_!

:)

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I recall waay back on Mar 07 when Kenneth D. Merry wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 14:33:18 -0600, Mohit Aron wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 	is FreeBSD-4.0-RELEASE going to happen anytime soon ?
> 
> Looks like it is scheduled for Monday, March 13th.
> 
> Obviously that could change if problems crop up.

Has anyone thought about the problem I posted a few days ago (getcwd()
breaks on unionfs in some conditions)? That seems like a pretty big
problem to me... maybe not too many people use unionfs though, I don't
know.

If someone would give me a tip about where I should look in the kernel I
would fix the problem myself but I am lost when you move past the specific
fs driver.

Also I've seen a number of strange freezes with one development box that's
running 20000223. That may have been fixed, but we've had to go hit reset
on the thing several times. No, this isn't a FUD-filled-content-free "bug
flame", I'm just pointing out that there have been problems that
recently..

-- 
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On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Oliver Fromme wrote:
> Apart from my stupidness of not checking the location of the binary
> first -- what did I do wrong, and what's the recommended way of
> handling this?  Am I supposed to rm /usr/bin/ssh each time I install a
> new release or snapshot?  I can't believe that.

I avoid the problem by structuring my paths along the lines of
$HOME/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin (everythere, not just on
FreeBSD).

This way, if I (as sysadmin) install something in /usr/local, it
over-rides whatever the vendor supplied.  (Otherwise, I probably
wouldn't have installed my own version).  Likewise, anything I
put in my private bin directory over-rides anything in the common
areas.

In this case, it would mean that the version of ssh installed
(in /usr/local/bin) from the ports would over-ride the /usr/bin/ssh
in the base system.

Peter


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On 2000-Mar-07 06:29:17 +1100, Dave Boers <djb@wit389306.student.utwente.nl> wrote:
>It is rumoured that Arun Sharma had the courage to say:
>> Compiling Mozilla with make -j 2 got -current to lock up, twice in
>> succession. I'm running a fairly recent snapshot (a week or two old)
>> on a Dual celeron box (BP6) with UDMA66 enabled.
>
>Finally. I've been complaining about this on several occasions. I'm also
>running UDMA66 and Dual Celeron BP6. No overclocking. 

Later postings mention possible problems with UDMA66.  The other
possibility that has been discussed recently is potential priority
inversions for processes using rtptio and idprio.

Note that ntpd will use rtprio if the Posix P1003.1b extensions aren't
enabled in the kernel.  (These were enabled by default in GENERIC on
i386 in mid-January).  If you have the new ntpd (rather than xntpd)
and are running a kernel without options P1003_1B,
_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING and _KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L, you could
potentially get a lockup due to a priority inversion.  (Though I
think the probability is very small).

Peter


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In message <20000307114400.A27909@orion.ac.hmc.edu> Brooks Davis writes:
: You don't need to update /dev though.  As long as you don't change
: anything else, a 4.0 kernel will work just fine with a 3.x /dev and
: userland (other then top and friends).  You can delay updating /dev
: until later as the ata code will deal with wd devices as well as ad
: devices.  

This is incorrect information.  If you ever have a dirty filesystem,
the new fsck will not be able to fix that and you'll be unable to
mount that filesystem w/o reboot, iirc.

: I built my current laptop configuration by installing 3.3 from
: CD, cvsuping to 4.0, installing a new kernel, and then building and
: installing world.  I looked at UPDATING.  I think it's wrong.  It should
: have you test a new kernel before rebuilding /dev.  You should do it,
: but like the scsi disk renaming it isn't mandatory, at least for now.
: I think the problem is that UPDATING is a bit to optomistic about
: things.  If you have a system that works with the new ata driver it's
: correct, but otherwise it's a good way to waste your system. :-(

Alternative, accurate, text welcome :-)

Warner


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In message <20000307205126.F73925@nathan.ruhr.de> Udo Erdelhoff writes:
: "make buildkernel" and "make installkernel" use GENERIC and kernel for the
: config file and the filename of the kernel. UPDATING should only contain
: this basic version. BTW, make buildkernel KERNEL=GENERIC;make installkernel
: KERNEL=GENERIC installs /GENERIC :(

Because this is so error prone, I don't even touch it at all in
UPDATING.  I don't like the targets and have been burned by them.  The
explicit instructions, while longer to type, are known to work and
don't have these gotchas.

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In message <200003072033.OAA00074@cs.rice.edu> Mohit Aron writes:
: 	is FreeBSD-4.0-RELEASE going to happen anytime soon ?

Yes, for a suitable definition of soon :-)

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In message <38C5724E.84052394@whalley.org> Ian Whalley writes:
: In reading UPDATING (and -current), I can't see any way to upgrade
: from 3.4-STABLE to (the future) 4.0-STABLE.

The now mythical build process for 4.0-stable cannot be commented upon
until its mythic qualities have been reduced somewhat.

In other words, UPDATING can't comment on vaporware.

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In message <200003072152.LAA26901@mauibuilt.com> FreeBSD MAIL writes:
: Is there support for the adaptec 29160 U2 scsi controller? will
: the 29xx driver work?

4.0 has this support.  I have its younger brother the 19160 and it
works great.  One caveat is that ultra160 disks are only supported at
ultra2 speeds.  Not a huge deal as I don't have any ultra160 disks
yet.

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In message <20000307115632.A72634@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Ruslan Ermilov writes:
: > 1) genassym and config were complaining about not being able to find
: > libc.so.4 when I installed them. Workaround: go back and rebuild with with
: > CFLAGS="-static"

A better work around is cd lib/libc and do a make install.

: We certainly need to update src/UPDATING accordingly, see the patch
: attached.

: +	make buildkernel installkernel KERNEL="NAME_OF_YOUR_KERNEL"

I'm not sure that this is wise.  When I tried this, I got
/NAME_OF_YOUR_KERNEL rather than /kernel like I'd have expected.

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Doug Barton wrote:

> If you give us an idea where your breakage is, we can tell you if it's
> a known problem. E.g., there is a known problem with PPP(D) and
> NO_OPENSSL that Kris and I have already worked out a fix for.

Yep, thats one of them.  We'll see if I find anything else.

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:On 2000-Mar-07 06:29:17 +1100, Dave Boers <djb@wit389306.student.utwente.nl> wrote:
:>It is rumoured that Arun Sharma had the courage to say:
:>> Compiling Mozilla with make -j 2 got -current to lock up, twice in
:>> succession. I'm running a fairly recent snapshot (a week or two old)
:>> on a Dual celeron box (BP6) with UDMA66 enabled.
:>
:>Finally. I've been complaining about this on several occasions. I'm also
:>running UDMA66 and Dual Celeron BP6. No overclocking. 
:
:Later postings mention possible problems with UDMA66.  The other
:possibility that has been discussed recently is potential priority
:inversions for processes using rtptio and idprio.
:
:Note that ntpd will use rtprio if the Posix P1003.1b extensions aren't
:enabled in the kernel.  (These were enabled by default in GENERIC on
:i386 in mid-January).  If you have the new ntpd (rather than xntpd)
:and are running a kernel without options P1003_1B,
:_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING and _KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L, you could
:potentially get a lockup due to a priority inversion.  (Though I
:think the probability is very small).
:
:Peter

    p.s. the first thing anyone having potential IDE problems should do is
    try the older 'wd' driver (if it supports their chipset) and see if
    that solves the problem.  At least then we can focus on the precise
    location of the problem.

					-Matt
					Matthew Dillon 
					<dillon@backplane.com>


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On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 04:49:06PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
> In message <20000307114400.A27909@orion.ac.hmc.edu> Brooks Davis writes:
> : You don't need to update /dev though.  As long as you don't change
> : anything else, a 4.0 kernel will work just fine with a 3.x /dev and
> : userland (other then top and friends).  You can delay updating /dev
> : until later as the ata code will deal with wd devices as well as ad
> : devices.  
> 
> This is incorrect information.  If you ever have a dirty filesystem,
> the new fsck will not be able to fix that and you'll be unable to
> mount that filesystem w/o reboot, iirc.

I haddn't realized that.

> : I built my current laptop configuration by installing 3.3 from
> : CD, cvsuping to 4.0, installing a new kernel, and then building and
> : installing world.  I looked at UPDATING.  I think it's wrong.  It should
> : have you test a new kernel before rebuilding /dev.  You should do it,
> : but like the scsi disk renaming it isn't mandatory, at least for now.
> : I think the problem is that UPDATING is a bit to optomistic about
> : things.  If you have a system that works with the new ata driver it's
> : correct, but otherwise it's a good way to waste your system. :-(
> 
> Alternative, accurate, text welcome :-)

Here's a diff.  It requires one more reboot, but it avoids backing
yourself into a corner.  A crash between reboots is a little messy, but
if you only follow these directions that's not very likely.  The
directions are good, but just assume support is identical and I can
think of at least one case where that's not true (defective IDE
controlers).

-- Brooks

Index: UPDATING
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/UPDATING,v
retrieving revision 1.71
diff -u -r1.71 UPDATING
--- UPDATING	2000/02/23 05:51:02	1.71
+++ UPDATING	2000/03/07 23:58:09
@@ -624,9 +624,11 @@
 	--------------------------------
 	cd /usr/src
 	make buildworld
+	<follow directions to build/install a kernel>
+	reboot
+	<if reboot fails, revert to working kernel and debug>
 	cd sbin/mknod
 	make install
-	<follow directions to build/install a kernel>
 	<follow rebuild disk /dev entries above>	[*]
 	reboot
 	<in single user>

-- 
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> On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 12:02:38PM +0000, FreeBSD mailing list wrote:
> > You know people, it's quite sad that those with knowledge simply refuse
> > to answer simple questions without "RTFM" attitudes and indirect (and
> > more frequently direct) insults to intelligence and sensibilities.
> 
> When you have more experience helping people on a frequent basis,
> perhaps you will revise this statement. Try helping folks out every day
> on IRC for 2 or 3 years and tell me what you think THEN. Alternative:
> answer every question asked on freebsd-questions for same period.
> 
> You'll see the point once you accomplish this.
> 
> > There is absolutely no reason why you can't submit the help, with 
> > suggestion toward ones perception of "the Right Way" to do it, 
> > rather than beat the issue to death with superior posturing.
> 
> There is absolutely no reason why people should lift a finger to help
> somebody else when said question/inquiry has been documented somewhere
> on the web or in the manpages, or someplace else.

You're right. However, there is no reason to lift a finger to not 
help someone either.  If you don't want to help, simply don't.  You save
everyone energy.  
Being a jerk isn't going to keep people from posting elementary questions,
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On 2000-Mar-08 10:38:23 +1100, Dan Potter <shun@mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
>Has anyone thought about the problem I posted a few days ago (getcwd()
>breaks on unionfs in some conditions)? That seems like a pretty big
>problem to me... maybe not too many people use unionfs though, I don't
>know.

LINT contains the comment:
# NB: The NULL, PORTAL, UMAP and UNION filesystems are known to be
# buggy, and WILL panic your system if you attempt to do anything with
# them.  They are included here as an incentive for some enterprising
# soul to sit down and fix them.

This suggests that there are more serious problems that need fixing.

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Another data point regarding this problem. When booting an older
kernel, circa Feb 20, 2000, I don't see this behavior.

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> Good god, I am saying that the files to merger dont exist....there is nothing
> to merge...

You need to be reading -current or stop running it.  The issue with
/etc/ssh/sshd_config has been discussed to death.

- Jordan


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> You know people, it's quite sad that those with knowledge simply refuse
> to answer simple questions without "RTFM" attitudes and indirect (and

What you and others don't seem to understand is that there are also
"minimum responsibilities" that have been established for users of our
non-mainstream branches.  Those minimums are published in the Handbook
and other documents and have been established in order to ensure that
the developers don't spend more time answering the same questions over
and over in email than they do in actually writing code and improving
FreeBSD in various ways.  Such a thing would be bad for everyone and
so a number of people, including myself, take it upon ourselves to
drive the right behavior by not simply answering "needless" questions
and thus encouraging the querants, in their initial success, to follow
those questions up with more.  One of the requirements for running
-current vs one of our mainstream releases is that people read this
mailing list, for example, and that's a necessary requirement because
we'd otherwise have to "announce" the same issues in -current over and
over again for each person to run across some transitional thing.

The -current branch is NOT intended for the average Joe, it's very
directly aimed at developers and developers have to deal with the idea
of minimum effective requirements every day so this shouldn't come as
a shock to anyone either.  If it does, you're in the wrong place and
should go back to a mainstream release of FreeBSD with all due haste.

- Jordan


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On Tue, 7 Mar 2000 jon@cgi.norcom2000.com wrote:

> oN tUE, mAR 07, 2000 AT 05:05:40PM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 01:02:29AM +1000, Idea Receiver wrote:
> > [...]
> > > btw, I have problem to make release, it kept complain about that i didnt
> > > set the USA_RESIDENT, however, I did! both in /etc and /etc/defaults. Can 
> > > please someone help me out with this as well..
> > > 
> > > thanks :)
> > 
> > Set USA_RESIDENT in environment rather than in /etc.
> 
> Or just put USA_RESIDENT=YES in /etc/make.conf

This is what i did before I come to the mailing-list and ask for help :)

anyway, set the USA_RESIDENT in environment helps :)



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On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 05:52:07PM -0600, Dan Potter wrote:

> Has anyone thought about the problem I posted a few days ago (getcwd()
> breaks on unionfs in some conditions)? That seems like a pretty big
> problem to me... maybe not too many people use unionfs though, I don't
> know.
> 
> If someone would give me a tip about where I should look in the kernel I
> would fix the problem myself but I am lost when you move past the specific
> fs driver.

Someone else will probably point this out to you, but:

BUGS
     THIS FILESYSTEM TYPE IS NOT YET FULLY SUPPORTED (READ: IT DOESN'T WORK)
     AND USING IT MAY, IN FACT, DESTROY DATA ON YOUR SYSTEM.  USE AT YOUR OWN
     RISK.  BEWARE OF DOG.  SLIPPERY WHEN WET.


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:On 2000-Mar-08 10:38:23 +1100, Dan Potter <shun@mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
:>Has anyone thought about the problem I posted a few days ago (getcwd()
:>breaks on unionfs in some conditions)? That seems like a pretty big
:>problem to me... maybe not too many people use unionfs though, I don't
:>know.
:
:LINT contains the comment:
:# NB: The NULL, PORTAL, UMAP and UNION filesystems are known to be
:# buggy, and WILL panic your system if you attempt to do anything with
:# them.  They are included here as an incentive for some enterprising
:# soul to sit down and fix them.
:
:This suggests that there are more serious problems that need fixing.
:
:Peter

    Unionfs is somewhat useable but there are indeed still some serious 
    bugs remaining.  I did a considerable amount of work on it last 
    year that fixes the more aggregious problems, but I still can't 
    buildworld/installworld using unionfs overlays without getting data
    corruption.  The main problem that unionfs suffers from is that
    the VFS stack was not designed to support transparent overlays and
    unionfs has to fake out the system to make it work, especially when it
    comes to the VM system.

    I think the getcwd() problem is worthy of a send-pr, but I don't know
    anyone who is currently working on unionfs (and I probably will not have
    any time to do so this year myself).  It does sounds like it ought to be
    relatively easy to fix considering how repeatable it is.

					-Matt
					Matthew Dillon 
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John Polstra wrote:
> 
> Below is a patch for "src/libexec/rtld-elf" which should fix the
> assert failures in wine.  I'd appreciate hearing from anybody who
> tests this with multithreaded packages such as wine, JDK, Mozilla,
> and linuxthreads.

[snipped patch]

OK, here's some of the errors I get with Mozilla.  It looks like it
happens when Gdk runs out os SysV shared memory.  Otherwise, if I
don't get the "Gdk-WARNING **: shmget failed!", the ld.so erros never
occur, and Mozilla runs OK.  It seems as if Wine is working OK so far,
though, although I probably haven't tested Wine enough:

.//run-mozilla.sh ./mozilla-bin
MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/wine/dmmiller/mozilla/dist/bin
 
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/wine/dmmiller/mozilla/dist/bin:/usr/local/qt/lib:/usr/local/lib/rvplayer5.0:/usr/local/RealPlayerG2/Common:/usr/local/RealPlayerG2/Codecs:/usr/local/kde/lib
       SHLIB_PATH=/wine/dmmiller/mozilla/dist/bin
          LIBPATH=/wine/dmmiller/mozilla/dist/bin
      MOZ_PROGRAM=./mozilla-bin
      MOZ_TOOLKIT=
        moz_debug=0
     moz_debugger=
nNCL: registering deferred (0)

Gdk-WARNING **: shmget failed!
Profile Manager : Profile Wizard and Manager activites : Begin
Profile Manager : Command Line Options : Begin
Profile Manager : Command Line Options : End
ProfileManager : GetProfileDir
ProfileManager : GetProfileDir
Profile Manager : Profile Wizard and Manager activites : End
/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Application locking error: 1 readers and 1
writers in dynamic linker.  See DLLOCKINIT(3) in manual pages.


- Donn


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>:In reading UPDATING (and -current), I can't see any way to upgrade
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>The now mythical build process for 4.0-stable cannot be
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>somewhat.  In other words, UPDATING can't comment on vaporware.

Heh.  That's fair enough -- I will wait until 4.0 is -STABLE.

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>On 2000-Mar-08 10:38:23 +1100, Dan Potter <shun@mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
> > Has anyone thought about the problem I posted a few days ago
> >(getcwd() breaks on unionfs in some conditions)? That seems like
> >a pretty big problem to me... maybe not too many people use unionfs
> >though, I don't know.

There are some problems.  I would be extremely surprised if 4.0-release
were delayed until all known problems with unionfs are worked out.
No one is against the idea of having them fixed, but as a practical
matter the problems would take enough time to find, fix, and prove
out that 4.0 should not be delayed that long.


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On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Matthew N. Dodd wrote:

> On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Doug Barton wrote:
> 
> > If you give us an idea where your breakage is, we can tell you if it's
> > a known problem. E.g., there is a known problem with PPP(D) and
> > NO_OPENSSL that Kris and I have already worked out a fix for.
> 
> Yep, thats one of them.  We'll see if I find anything else.

	Ok, if you don't need PPP just delete that from
/usr/src/usr.sbin/Makefile (there are 4 lines). If you do need PPP write
back and I'll send you the patch, I don't have the info handy right this
second. 

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Richard J Kuhns wrote:

> So does all this mean that I now have to start using ssh-add/ssh-agent?

Not at all; it's there as an option for people who have
"secure" workstations and/or want single-signon for SSH. I often use
ssh-agent if I have lots of remote CVS commits to do consecutively,
e.g. do 'ssh-agent tcsh' and then ssh-add in the subshell, and exit when
I'm done.

ssh-add will also only invoke ssh-askpass if invoked with no controlling
terminal, e.g. ssh-add < /dev/null or if called during the X login
process. Otherwise it uses the good old (internal) text prompt.

Kris

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Warner Losh wrote:

> In message <20000307115632.A72634@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Ruslan Ermilov writes:
> : > 1) genassym and config were complaining about not being able to find
> : > libc.so.4 when I installed them. Workaround: go back and rebuild with with
> : > CFLAGS="-static"
> 
> A better work around is cd lib/libc and do a make install.

I'm pretty sure I tried that - I can't remember if it screwed me up
(signal 12 errors) or just didn't work.

> : We certainly need to update src/UPDATING accordingly, see the patch
> : attached.
> 
> : +	make buildkernel installkernel KERNEL="NAME_OF_YOUR_KERNEL"
> 
> I'm not sure that this is wise.  When I tried this, I got
> /NAME_OF_YOUR_KERNEL rather than /kernel like I'd have expected.

Sounds like a bug. However, IMO people should be building GENERIC as their
first 4.0 kernel, because all the config file changes mean they won't be
able to just use their old one, and chances are they might screw up and
miss out something important and then blame it on 4.0 instead of their own
ignorance. If we get them booting with GENERIC and prove they can (which
is what the buildkernel target does by default), then it's more obviously
user error when the next kernel they build doesn't work (plus, they
have a working 4.0 kernel to fall back on, namely kernel.old :-)

Kris

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I recall waay back on Mar 07 when Bill Fumerola wrote:

> Someone else will probably point this out to you, but:
> 
> BUGS
>      THIS FILESYSTEM TYPE IS NOT YET FULLY SUPPORTED (READ: IT DOESN'T WORK)
>      AND USING IT MAY, IN FACT, DESTROY DATA ON YOUR SYSTEM.  USE AT YOUR OWN
>      RISK.  BEWARE OF DOG.  SLIPPERY WHEN WET.

Yes, I understand... Rome was not built in a day though, we have to fix it
one bug at a time if it's going to get fixed. ^_^; I guess not as many
people use it as I thought, though.

Also, the reason I posted my concerns is that this is the -current list
and I figured if anywhere, this might be the place. It seems like half the
fs' man pages have that disclaimer at the bottom =) 

I guess my next question is: is there a better list to take the discussion
of fixing up unionfs (e.g., hackers? fs?), and is there any decent amount
of information somewhere that I could use to get up to speed on VFS in
FreeBSD and such?

The functionality would be very useful at work, and so far it seems to be
working fine minus a few hiccups. Because of that, it's somewhat likely
that I could spend time getting paid to work on it =). So I guess if
there's anyone who's interested in cleaning up after the dog at the moment
(see above disclaimer from the man page =) it'd probably be me. 

Specifically I'd like to see the operation cleaned up if possible so that
it's more truly transparent -- like no shadow directories, special files
(e.g., device nodes) working, etc; if I can get my brain around it I might
be able to work on some of that. I've studied the VFS model in Linux a
bit, and BSD's seems somewhat similar, at least at first glance. It
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On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Doug Barton wrote:

> 	If you give us an idea where your breakage is, we can tell you if
> it's a known problem. E.g., there is a known problem with PPP(D) and
> NO_OPENSSL that Kris and I have already worked out a fix for.

I'm still waiting for Jordan's approval on that patch :-) <nudge, nudge>

Kris

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Peter Jeremy <peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au> wrote in list.freebsd-current:
 > I avoid the problem by structuring my paths along the lines of
 > $HOME/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin (everythere, not just on
 > FreeBSD).

OK, I'll think I will do that (even though I didn't need it,
until the /usr/bin/ssh problems appeared).  However, this
doesn't solve the problem completely.  I also had to remove
/etc/ssh.  Somehow, /usr/local/bin/scp seems to pick up data
from /etc/ssh and tries to invoke /usr/bin/ssh, no matter
what.  :-(

I'm truly sorry I caused this lengthy thread.  It was really
not my intention to spread FUD.  I stumbled over something
that (I thought) could be a potential problem for 4.0-Release
(and I still think so).  I will re-install that machine from
scratch and write down exactly what is going wrong.  Maybe it
has even been solved in the latest -current snapshot.

Regards
   Oliver

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On 2000-Mar-08 13:55:45 +1100, Oliver Fromme <olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> wrote:
> I also had to remove
>/etc/ssh.  Somehow, /usr/local/bin/scp seems to pick up data
>from /etc/ssh and tries to invoke /usr/bin/ssh, no matter
>what.  :-(

I can't explain that.  My installed-from-ports scp exec's
/usr/local/bin/ssh1 and that ssh doesn't know anything about
/etc/ssh.  Try running "ktrace -i" on the scp and looking at
what is actually exec'd and opened.

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hi,

I was tring to make release (just for interests) yesterday. Which
I receive an error "ln: /R/stage/kernels/GENERIC: No such file or
directory" in release.3. I go back to check Makefile, I see "_R"
been defined as "/R". Which looks doesnt make any sence, I do not
believe the / would be touched.

is this an bug or just i did something wrong?

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Matt Heckaman wrote:
 
> Despite the name, mergemaster is not only for merging, it's about the most
> handy tool I've ever come across for make worlds, makes updating configs a
> very easy task indeed. Doug definately deserves a few hundred pats on the
> back for that program.

	Well, kind words are always appreciated... of course money is the
universal language of appreciation...  *chuckle*

Doug
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* Idea Receiver <receiver@RedDust.BlueSky.net.au> [000307 21:33] wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> I was tring to make release (just for interests) yesterday. Which
> I receive an error "ln: /R/stage/kernels/GENERIC: No such file or
> directory" in release.3. I go back to check Makefile, I see "_R"
> been defined as "/R". Which looks doesnt make any sence, I do not
> believe the / would be touched.
> 
> is this an bug or just i did something wrong?
> 
> thx ;)

you want to make /R a symlink to a place with a helluva lot of
free space.

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On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 11:31:26AM -0800, William Woods wrote:
> Good god, I am saying that the files to merger dont exist....there is nothing
> to merge...
....
> > If you insist on doing it by hand, start with 
> > "diff -urN /etc /usr/src/etc"


Perhaps you are not familar with the "-N" option to diff.

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In message <Pine.BSF.4.21.0003071816170.99791-100000@hub.freebsd.org> Kris Kennaway writes:
: On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Warner Losh wrote:
: > A better work around is cd lib/libc and do a make install.
: 
: I'm pretty sure I tried that - I can't remember if it screwed me up
: (signal 12 errors) or just didn't work.

Odd.  I actually tried it myself not to long ago and it worked great.

: Sounds like a bug. However, IMO people should be building GENERIC as their
: first 4.0 kernel, because all the config file changes mean they won't be
: able to just use their old one, and chances are they might screw up and
: miss out something important and then blame it on 4.0 instead of their own
: ignorance. If we get them booting with GENERIC and prove they can (which
: is what the buildkernel target does by default), then it's more obviously
: user error when the next kernel they build doesn't work (plus, they
: have a working 4.0 kernel to fall back on, namely kernel.old :-)

Hmmm, I'll have to think about this...

Warner


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Nik Clayton wrote:

> That, at least, was not the case with an upgrade I attempted a few days
> ago.  On booting with kernel.GENERIC (from -current) it hung mounting the
> disks.  Trying to go back to kernel.stable didn't work, because I'd had
> to update the /dev entries for -current, and they wouldn't work with
> -stable.  I had to dig out fixit floppies and restore from a backup.
> 
> Ordinarily, you'd make sure that userland, /dev, and the kernel are all
> in sync before you reboot.  However, in this case (and as advised by
> src/UPDATING) you have to reboot with a new kernel after updating /dev,
> but before you update the userland.

	I've been meaning to post this for a while. I recently upgraded two way
old 4.0 systems to post-signal changes -current. It's not quite a 3.x ->
4.0-Current upgrade, but it's close. I had to do a few things
differently than what's in Updating, and I wanted to test the
feasability of not going single user mode since I keep remote upgrades
in the back of my mind even though I don't do a lot of them anymore.
This is assuming that you've done all the right things with upgrading
sources, double-checked /etc/make.conf, using clean /usr/src, clean
/usr/obj, etc. 

1. make buildworld
2. make buildkernel
	I actually updated my kernel config file while world was building so I
did 'make KERNEL=MYKERNELFILE buildkernel, and below, but that's not for
the faint of heart. As someone already pointed out, GENERIC is a better
choice, and doesn't require any options.
3. make installkernel
4. cd /usr/src/sbin/mknod && make install
	I had to do this or the next step didn't work.
5. cp /usr/src/etc/MAKEFILE /dev ; cd /dev ; /bin/sh MAKEFILE all
6. Update /etc/fstab and new disk devices per instructions in Updating
7. reboot
8. make -k installworld
9. make installworld
10. mergemaster
11. rebuilt my kernel (make sure to update your kernel config file) and
rebooted

	I did one system this way feeling my way through, then did another
following these instructions and didn't have any problems. I never had
to go single user, although these were workstation machines. For servers
you'd probably want to use /var/run/nologin, or similar. (Just make sure
you open plenty of shells for yourself first. :)

I hope this is useful,

Doug
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David O'Brien wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 11:31:26AM -0800, William Woods wrote:
> > Good god, I am saying that the files to merger dont exist....there is nothing
> > to merge...
> ....
> > > If you insist on doing it by hand, start with 
> > > "diff -urN /etc /usr/src/etc"
> 
> 
> Perhaps you are not familar with the "-N" option to diff.
> 

Who is the "you" you're refer to?  I'm quite familiar with
the -N option, and if you want to compare /etc with /usr/src/etc
-N is handy.  If you're intimating that -N implies -r that is
not contained in diff(1).

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joerg@cs.waikato.ac.nz wrote:
>> X11R6 will not install as fetched with -current, libXThrStub.so.6 is
>> missing. When compiling X11R6 from ports, everything works fine.

  I installed 4-current from current.FreeBSD.org, I also have above problem.
Xbin.tgz only has aout libXThrStub.so.6 binary :-<

% tar tzvf Xbin.tgz |grep libXThrStub
-rw-r--r-- root/wheel     9043 Feb 22 14:37 2000 lib/aout/libXThrStub.so.6.0

MD5 (Xbin.tgz) = d7441882957dc7724d2d909f34fcd0f4

  Does someone update Xbin.tgz in current.FreeBSD.org?

ftp://current.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/current/XF86336/Xbin.tgz
ftp://current.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/current/XF86336/FILES

  By the way, Xbin.tgz in ISO-IMAGES/4.0-20000214-CURRENT was
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On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 10:52:28PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote:
> 
> Who is the "you" you're refer to?  I'm quite familiar with

Generally when one says 'who' it refers to the person the in "To:"
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> I was tring to make release (just for interests) yesterday. Which
> I receive an error "ln: /R/stage/kernels/GENERIC: No such file or
> directory" in release.3. I go back to check Makefile, I see "_R"
> been defined as "/R". Which looks doesnt make any sence, I do not
> believe the / would be touched.

_R is relative to the value you used for ${CHROOTDIR}.

The message you got above, probably happened after the ``chroot
${CHROOTDIR}'' and thus is not your real / .

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On Sat, 4 Mar 2000, Dan Potter wrote:

> ...
> In libc there is a non-kernel version of getcwd that runs lstat() on each
> directory and then searching its parent, trying to divine which sub-tree
> is '.' at the time. I dumped a copy of that into a copy of pwd.c to trace
> through it and see what happens. Basically for optimization purposes it
> looks like it just uses the inode value from readdir() until it thinks
> that it's changed volumes, and then it runs lstat() on each entry to make

This is supposed to work.  (st_dev, st_ino) pairs returned by lstat() and
stat() are supposed to be unique.

> sure which one it is. Well, this breaks unionfs mounts because the device
> inode is the same, but the inode numbers are different since it's a mount
> point. What a subtle problem!

st_dev for a mount on non-device is normally copied from the fsid for the
mount.  See kern/vfs_vnops.c:vn_stat().  This works for nfs mounts.
Unfortunately, for union mounts, VOP_GETTATTR() normally finds a non-VNOVAL
va_fsid by going to the leaf filesystem, and st_dev is set to this.  I
think the fsid should be used in all cases (change f_fsid.val[0] for
mounts on real devices if necessary).

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Hi

A few days ago I upgraded by system to -stable from 3.2-RELEASE and
several
programs which use dlopen stopped working, most notably mod_perl.  For
example:

# apachectl start
[Wed Mar  8 10:19:35 2000] [error] Can't load
'/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-freebsd/auto/Time/HiRes/HiRes.so'
for module Time::HiRes:
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-freebsd/auto/Time/HiRes/HiRes.so:
Undefined symbol "PL_stack_max" at
/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/DynaLoader.pm line 169.

 at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/HTML/Mason/Interp.pm line 25
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/HTML/Mason.pm line 9.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/web/mason/handler.pl
line 3.

Syntax error on line 1204 of /usr/local/apache-1.3/conf/httpd.conf:
Can't load
'/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-freebsd/auto/Time/HiRes/HiRes.so'
for module Time::HiRes:
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-freebsd/auto/Time/HiRes/HiRes.so:
Undefined symbol "PL_stack_max" at
/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/DynaLoader.pm line 169.

 at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/HTML/Mason/Interp.pm line 25
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/HTML/Mason.pm line 9.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/web/mason/handler.pl
line 3.

/usr/local/apache-1.3/bin/apachectl start: httpd could not be started

Furthermore:

niall% nm /usr/lib/libperl.so | grep PL_stack_max
00090630 B PL_stack_max

The Time::HiRes module loads fine when I invoke perl from the command
line.
It appears I amn't the only one having this problem:

	http://x42.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=582680524
	http://x30.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=591070824
	http://x31.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=573655265
	http://x31.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=565253105

A recompile of apache etc did not solve the problem, neither did a
make world yesterday  Any hints?

Regards,

Niall


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I hope this hasn't already been pounded to death, checked the archives
with no results.

I just upgraded to 4.0 and everything works fine so far except the zip
drive. Here's my dmesg:

Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
	The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Mar  7 16:17:46 EST 2000
    root@:/usr/src/sys/compile/NEWKERN

<-snip->

ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode
plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
vpo0: <Iomega Matchmaker Parallel to SCSI interface> on ppbus0
imm0: EPP 1.9 mode
sbc0: <Creative SB16/SB32> at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5 drq 1,5 on isa0
sbc0: setting card to irq 5, drq 1, 5
pcm0: <SB DSP 4.16> on sbc0
unknown0: <Game> at port 0x200-0x207 on isa0
unknown1: <Cqm> at port 0x620-0x623 on isa0
ad0: 17206MB <WDC AC418000D> [34960/16/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33
ad1: 8693MB <WDC AC29100D> [17662/16/63] at ata0-slave using UDMA33
acd0: CDROM <BCD-48SB CD-ROM> at ata1-master using WDMA2
vpo0: VP0 error/timeout (5)
vpo0: VP0 error/timeout (2)
vpo0: VP0 error/timeout (2)
vpo0: VP0 error/timeout (2)
vpo0: VP0 error/timeout (2)
vpo0: VP0 error/timeout (2)
vpo0: VP0 error/timeout (2)
vpo0: VP0 error/timeout (2)
vpo0: VP0 error/timeout (2)
vpo0: VP0 error/timeout (2)
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad1s1a

Any idea what these errors may indicate?  Although now I notice that
ppc0 is in NIBBLE-only, and vpo0 is showing EPP 1.9. Could that be my
problem.

Thanks.

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On Mon, 06 Mar 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, R Joseph Wright wrote:
> 
> > I just built a new world today and openssh does not appear to be
> > installed.  I have the directories /etc/ssh and /etc/ssl but they are
> > empty.  There is no /usr/bin/ssh.
> > I've been trying to follow the discussions on this issue and I understood
> > that this is now part of the default base system.  
> 
> Do you have the crypto sources installed?
> 
> Kris
> 
Do you still need to install the rsaref port before openssh?
(/usr/ports/security)

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On Tue, 07 Mar 2000, Walter Brameld wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Mar 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, R Joseph Wright wrote:
> > 
> > > I just built a new world today and openssh does not appear to be
> > > installed.  I have the directories /etc/ssh and /etc/ssl but they are
> > > empty.  There is no /usr/bin/ssh.
> > > I've been trying to follow the discussions on this issue and I understood
> > > that this is now part of the default base system.  
> > 
> > Do you have the crypto sources installed?
> > 
> > Kris
> > 
> Do you still need to install the rsaref port before openssh?
> (/usr/ports/security)
> 
Ah, sorry. That's for SSL. Not awake yet, I guess......

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At 9:29 PM +0100 2000/3/7, Udo Erdelhoff wrote:

>  Are you using OpenSSH or the 'normal' ssh on your Solaris box?

	The Solaris box is the only place where I have tried installing 
OpenSSH so far.

>  @work: SunOS [...] 5.6 Generic_105181-05 [...]
>  SSH Version 1.2.27 [sparc-sun-solaris2.6], protocol version 1.5.
>  Standard version.  Does not use RSAREF.

	Have you tried this side with OpenSSH?  It's using OpenSSH on 
Solaris that is giving me problems....

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"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote:
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> > I have upgraded a machine to the latest -current snapshot (it
> > was running a -current from the end of January before).  Every-
> > thing went fine, except for one thing: ssh didn't work anymore.
> > It used to work fine before.
> 
> You really need to read the -current mailing list if you're going to
> run -current.  Saying that openssh took you by surprise as a -current
> user is sort of like saying you didn't know Elvis was dead. :-(

but he isn't!

He was working in a chip shop last I heard.

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It works if you can switch your parallel port to EPP (???) mode in the
bios. Transfer speed raises also under windows with this configuration
btw.

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On Wed, 08 Mar 2000, F. Heinrichmeyer wrote:
> It works if you can switch your parallel port to EPP (???) mode in the
> bios. Transfer speed raises also under windows with this configuration
> btw.
> 

Thank you for the reply, I will try that. What I find odd is that it
worked fine on 3.4-STABLE.

 > -- 
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> FernUniversitaet Hagen, LG ES, 58084 Hagen (Germany)
> tel:+49 2331/987-1166 fax:987-355 http://www-es.fernuni-hagen.de/~jfh

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Thank you for your suggestion, Sean.

I faced this kind of problem both on FreeBSD and FreeBSD(98) because I
mis-upgraded to current system. Anyway I tried your suggestion for
both.

On FreeBSD it was successful and there seems no problem.
On FreeBSD(98) there is still a '/dev/:0 problem'.

I'll answer about pc98.

>>>>> In <20000307235759.A3636@stat.Duke.EDU> 
>>>>>	"Sean O'Connell" <sean@stat.Duke.EDU> wrote:

S> Do you have something odd in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xservers?

No. Xservers has only one line.

:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X -once -bpp 16 -deferglyphs all

S> Did you completely remove and recreate /dev ... could there be
S> an old socket kicking around (/var/run)?  What about under 
S> /tmp/.X11-unix ?

I recreated /dev/* with newer MAKEDEV script (1.242). /tmp is
mounted by mfs.

S> Also, you may have some old pollution kicking around (like versions
S> of chown and chmod in the wrong places ... see /usr/src/UPDATING)
S> from 3.X days.

Just removed old chown and chgrp.

S> Lastly, did you copy /dev/null over /var/run/utmp and /var/log/wtmp
S> ... you could be bitten by a formatting change.   Are your shells
S> completely rebuilt?  What about ssh?  or some form xterm replacement?

I executed

cp /dev/null /var/run/utmp
cp /dev/null /var/log/wtmp

and others(bash2, ssh, kterm and fvwm2) are also rebuilt. Ssh is
openssh in the src tree. Then,

nakaji@xa12:nakaji$ w
w: /dev/:0: No such file or directory
 8:31PM  up 12 mins, 1 user, load averages: 1.15, 0.59, 0.24
USER             TTY      FROM              LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
nakaji           p1       :0.0              8:31PM     - w
nakaji@xa12:nakaji$ finger
finger: /dev//:0: No such file or directory
Login            Name                 TTY  Idle  Login Time   Office  Phone
nakaji           NAKAJI Hiroyuki      p1         Wed    20:31
nakaji           NAKAJI Hiroyuki     *:0         Wed    20:20

There is still 'No such file or directory'. :(

S> Rapidly running out of ideas, good luck

I'll recheck the steps for upgrading my system. Thanks.
-- 
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FreeBSD-4.0 will kick out some older/cheaper hardware. My CMI8330 on
board sound chip at home needs patching of mss.c and sbc.c to work.

Overall performance is now very good on the other side.

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Kris Kennaway writes:
 > On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Richard J Kuhns wrote:
 > 
 > > So does all this mean that I now have to start using ssh-add/ssh-agent?
 > 
 > Not at all; it's there as an option for people who have
 > "secure" workstations and/or want single-signon for SSH. I often use
 > ssh-agent if I have lots of remote CVS commits to do consecutively,
 > e.g. do 'ssh-agent tcsh' and then ssh-add in the subshell, and exit when
 > I'm done.
 > 
 > ssh-add will also only invoke ssh-askpass if invoked with no controlling
 > terminal, e.g. ssh-add < /dev/null or if called during the X login
 > process. Otherwise it uses the good old (internal) text prompt.
 > 
 > Kris

But then I'm back to my original question/problem: how to get ssh to ask
for a password using ssh-askpass.  I've looked through the code (a little);
how would you feel about a patch to openssh/readpass.c that caused it to
call ssh-askpass if there's no controlling tty but DISPLAY is set?

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In either case, the answer is that you do not need to install the rsaref
port before any builds.  It is only a runtime dependency now.

Jim Bloom
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Walter Brameld wrote:
> 
> > Do you still need to install the rsaref port before openssh?
> > (/usr/ports/security)
> >
> Ah, sorry. That's for SSL. Not awake yet, I guess......


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ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/alpha/4.0-20000307-CURRENT
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/4.0-20000307-CURRENT

With ISO images available from:

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/ISO-IMAGES/4.0-20000307-CURRENT/

.. just as soon as they finish uploading (the i386 image is already
there and the alpha image is about 8% there and should be in place by
the time most of you read this message).

This will probably be the last release candidate image before release
day unless folks find some real show-stoppers here, so please look
thoroughly :).  Thanks!

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Ian Whalley wrote:
> 
> In reading UPDATING (and -current), I can't see any way to upgrade
> from 3.4-STABLE to (the future) 4.0-STABLE.  This is fair enough,
> it being a major revision upgrade (can't see an easy way to
> upgrade {AIX,Solaris,HPUX} through a major revision without access
> to the console...), but in an effort to save several hour drive,
> I figured I'd ask if anyone had had any success doing an upgrade
> remotely...

1) There is no 4.0-STABLE. The only 4.0 that exists is -CURRENT.
2) This is described in UPDATING, so go back there and read it again.
And if you don't find it, you have the wrong version of UPDATING.

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I tried an FTP SNAP install this morning, and all the crypto libs from
current were unavailable.  I switched over to the debug console, but there
was no additional info.  The files seem to be on the ftp site just fine.
Is this a known issue ?

	---Mike
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> I tried an FTP SNAP install this morning, and all the crypto libs from
> current were unavailable.  I switched over to the debug console, but there
> was no additional info.  The files seem to be on the ftp site just fine.
> Is this a known issue ?

Please try again - I *just* fixed this problem and updated the
floppies in-place. :)

- Jordan


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At 07:42 AM 3/8/00 -0500, Jim Bloom wrote:
>In either case, the answer is that you do not need to install the rsaref
>port before any builds.  It is only a runtime dependency now.
>
>Jim Bloom
>bloom@acm.org
>
>Walter Brameld wrote:
>> 
>> > Do you still need to install the rsaref port before openssh?
>> > (/usr/ports/security)
>> >
>> Ah, sorry. That's for SSL. Not awake yet, I guess......

My last build I didn't try, but about a week or so back I did not have
RSAref installed, built world, installed RSAref, and it "just worked" as
advertised for RSA authentication with OpenSSH.  Didn't check on SSLv2, but
presume it would.

Time to check again with RC3.

What I did not check is removing RSAref after a buildworld and checking for
breakage, but that smacks of shooting one's self in the foot.


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At 07:39 AM 3/8/00 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
>> I tried an FTP SNAP install this morning, and all the crypto libs from
>> current were unavailable.  I switched over to the debug console, but there
>> was no additional info.  The files seem to be on the ftp site just fine.
>> Is this a known issue ?
>
>Please try again - I *just* fixed this problem and updated the
>floppies in-place. :)

Will do.  Also, a _very_ minor point, I think on the screen where it says,
"Do you want only normal users to have ftp access (e.g. disable anon ftp)"
or something like that. Should it not be _i.e._ instead of _e.g_ ?  

Also, does the ISO image have the same issue ?

	---Mike
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Comments: I wanna share my results for those who want to do this via
remote.

I slightly modified the procedure below for upgrading a box several
hundred miles away, where single user mode means a long distance phone
call.

cvsup to current
make buildworld
make buildkernel
make installkernel
- change - I just rebooted normally, the network came up fine, if you
  have any special kernel needs, make sure you have di lines in
/boot/kernel.conf (i.e. your system hangs when trying to detect a
device) at this point you are very safe, Its just a new kernel, if it
doesnt work, just load from the old one and give up or tweak, or
whatever.
make -DNOINFO installworld
make installworld
ok, here is where I discovered something nobody told me about.
4.0 moved me from DES to MD5.  the effect was that none of the passwords
worked. luckily I was logged in as root already, and only had 4 accts, I
just ran the passwd command and reset them.  if its a nightmare to move
your accounts, and/or you want to keep DES, I have been told that adding
the line "auth_default  =       des" in /etc/auth.conf will keep you on
DES.
(I didnt read the dev changes till after I did this, so it would prob be
better to do it here.)
reboot
now after the reboot, I had a weird error that nobody has mentioned as
far as I can see.  Whenever I tried to make in /usr/ports I would get an
error on two libraries:
 /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1, /usr/lib/libm.so.2

after that everything was pretty sane, little cleanups, but nothing
really scary.

I dont know if I recommend this or not, but I hope anyone who tries it
will learn from my experience and have a smoother ride ;)

so, first solution I can think of is, copy the files from an existing
current box".  /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 wouldnt let me overwrite it,
even as root, but /usr/lib/libm.so.2 did, amazingly enough it only took
the libm replacement.

Quoting Eugene M. Kim (ab@astralblue.com):
> On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, John Baldwin wrote:
> 
> | You need a -current kernel for installworld to work.  In fact,
> | if you aren't running a -current kernel installworld will blow
> | up on your machine.  Try this instead:
> | 
> | - cvsup -current
> | - make buildworld
> | - make buildkernel
> | - make installkernel
> 
> - backup /dev to /dev.orig
> - mkdir /dev
> - copy /usr/src/etc/MAKEDEV* into /dev 
> - remake all devices in /dev (don't forget to make the disk slice
> entries separately)
> 
> | - reboot into single user mode
> | - make -DNOINFO installworld
> | - make installworld
> | - merge over /etc changes, etc.
> | - reboot
> 
> -- 
> Eugene M. Kim <ab@astralblue.com>
> 
> "Is your music unpopular?  Make it popular; make music
> which people like, or make people who like your music."
> 
> 
> 
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> Also, does the ISO image have the same issue ?

No, it's uploading now (I caught it in time to stop it).

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On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 08:36:08PM +0100, Dave Boers wrote:
> It seems that chown's behavior is inconsistent with both the usage message
> and the man page. The same goes for chgrp. 

Fixed!  I have no idea how I managed to not commit all the "-v" code.
 
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Addition: you may want to consider carefully the ramifications of
remaking all the devices while logged in from remote, and outline a
method, I didnt need to I found out because this box was installed after
jan 2000. 

Quoting Adriel Ickler (adriel@adriel.net):
> Comments: I wanna share my results for those who want to do this via
> remote.
> 
> I slightly modified the procedure below for upgrading a box several
> hundred miles away, where single user mode means a long distance phone
> call.
> 
> cvsup to current
> make buildworld
> make buildkernel
> make installkernel
> - change - I just rebooted normally, the network came up fine, if you
>   have any special kernel needs, make sure you have di lines in
> /boot/kernel.conf (i.e. your system hangs when trying to detect a
> device) at this point you are very safe, Its just a new kernel, if it
> doesnt work, just load from the old one and give up or tweak, or
> whatever.
> make -DNOINFO installworld
> make installworld
> ok, here is where I discovered something nobody told me about.
> 4.0 moved me from DES to MD5.  the effect was that none of the passwords
> worked. luckily I was logged in as root already, and only had 4 accts, I
> just ran the passwd command and reset them.  if its a nightmare to move
> your accounts, and/or you want to keep DES, I have been told that adding
> the line "auth_default  =       des" in /etc/auth.conf will keep you on
> DES.
> (I didnt read the dev changes till after I did this, so it would prob be
> better to do it here.)
> reboot
> now after the reboot, I had a weird error that nobody has mentioned as
> far as I can see.  Whenever I tried to make in /usr/ports I would get an
> error on two libraries:
>  /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1, /usr/lib/libm.so.2
> 
> after that everything was pretty sane, little cleanups, but nothing
> really scary.
> 
> I dont know if I recommend this or not, but I hope anyone who tries it
> will learn from my experience and have a smoother ride ;)
> 
> so, first solution I can think of is, copy the files from an existing
> current box".  /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 wouldnt let me overwrite it,
> even as root, but /usr/lib/libm.so.2 did, amazingly enough it only took
> the libm replacement.
> 
> Quoting Eugene M. Kim (ab@astralblue.com):
> > On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, John Baldwin wrote:
> > 
> > | You need a -current kernel for installworld to work.  In fact,
> > | if you aren't running a -current kernel installworld will blow
> > | up on your machine.  Try this instead:
> > | 
> > | - cvsup -current
> > | - make buildworld
> > | - make buildkernel
> > | - make installkernel
> > 
> > - backup /dev to /dev.orig
> > - mkdir /dev
> > - copy /usr/src/etc/MAKEDEV* into /dev 
> > - remake all devices in /dev (don't forget to make the disk slice
> > entries separately)
> > 
> > | - reboot into single user mode
> > | - make -DNOINFO installworld
> > | - make installworld
> > | - merge over /etc changes, etc.
> > | - reboot
> > 
> > -- 
> > Eugene M. Kim <ab@astralblue.com>
> > 
> > "Is your music unpopular?  Make it popular; make music
> > which people like, or make people who like your music."
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> 
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On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 11:08:46AM -0500, Mike Tancsa wrote:
> Will do.  Also, a _very_ minor point, I think on the screen where it says,
> "Do you want only normal users to have ftp access (e.g. disable anon ftp)"
> or something like that. Should it not be _i.e._ instead of _e.g_ ?  

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In article <38C5A975.957756C4@cvzoom.net>,
Donn Miller  <dmmiller@cvzoom.net> wrote:
> John Polstra wrote:
> > 
> > Below is a patch for "src/libexec/rtld-elf" which should fix the
> > assert failures in wine.  I'd appreciate hearing from anybody who
> > tests this with multithreaded packages such as wine, JDK, Mozilla,
> > and linuxthreads.
> 
> [snipped patch]
> 
> OK, here's some of the errors I get with Mozilla.  It looks like it
> happens when Gdk runs out os SysV shared memory.  Otherwise, if I
> don't get the "Gdk-WARNING **: shmget failed!", the ld.so erros never
> occur, and Mozilla runs OK.  It seems as if Wine is working OK so far,
> though, although I probably haven't tested Wine enough:
[...]
> /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Application locking error: 1 readers and 1
> writers in dynamic linker.  See DLLOCKINIT(3) in manual pages.

This means that one thread was in the middle of a dlopen() call
when another thread either called a new function for the first time
(invoking the dynamic linker for lazy binding) or called dlsym().
Really the only _right_ place I can find to fix this kind of thing is
in the application itself, by calling dllockinit() to set up locking
for the dynamic linker invocations.  I keep trying to come up with
solutions that will work without that, but I'm not at all sure it's
possible.  I'll take another look at Mozilla and see what's done
for other platforms.  They must have this same problem, at least
potentially.

Thanks very much for testing this!

John


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usr.sbin/ppp/
usr.sbin/pppd/
secure/libexec/telnetd/ (actually the Makefile below telnetd/ is the problem.)
secure/usr.bin/telnet/

These all require simple !defined(NO_OPENSSL) additions.

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At 07:39 AM 3/8/00 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
>> I tried an FTP SNAP install this morning, and all the crypto libs from
>> current were unavailable.  I switched over to the debug console, but there
>> was no additional info.  The files seem to be on the ftp site just fine.
>> Is this a known issue ?
>
>Please try again - I *just* fixed this problem and updated the
>floppies in-place. :)

For just ftp (wizard) or on current (usw2) as well?

Seems to be that 4.0-20000307-CURRENT differ from wizard to usw2 and the
3/7 version on wizard falls between the 3/7 and 3/8 version on usw2.  Huh?
Aren't they supposed to be same?

Will the ISO's reside on usw2 as well?  It is faster after all. ;)


Also a problem...

Not sure when this started, but there is a problem with using mget.  It
works just fine on wizard, but on usw2 it only will grab the files in
4.0-YYYYMMDD-CURRENT and the src directory:

ncftp>mget [A-U]* [b-m]* p[or]* src
p[or]*: No match.

It doen't like globbing for directories anymore.  They must be explicit.


Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net
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Here is a concern i have.  I had a hard time getting my parallel port
zip to work under 3.4.  It turned out there may be a bug in my bios
that required me to change from EPP mode to standard bi-directional.
Walter noted that EPP mode worked OK for him under 3.4, but did not
under -current.  Oddly enough, EPP mode worked fine under win95, so
there doesn't seem to be some innate incompatiblity between my laptop
and Zip drives in EPP mode.  Is this worth looking into?
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There were a couple of sysinstall related bogons, one related to
variable toggling in rc.conf and another related to the crypto
distribution (it was still looking in des/).  Both of these have been
fixed and rolled into the updated boot floppies as well as the ISO
images, which are still uploading.

The next errata item has to do with the rsaref package, which will not
display its license properly when added through sysinstall.  I
understand the problem and am working on a fix right now.

- Jordan


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> For just ftp (wizard) or on current (usw2) as well?

These snapshots are only going up on ftp, sorry for the confusion.
The stuff on current is just the daily snapshot stuff and not entirely
equivalent to the URLs I specifically gave out.

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On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote:

> What I did not check is removing RSAref after a buildworld and checking for
> breakage, but that smacks of shooting one's self in the foot.

That should just revert to the previous case of complaining loudly if you
try and make use of RSA.

Kris

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John Polstra wrote:
> =

> In article <38C5A975.957756C4@cvzoom.net>,
> Donn Miller   wrote:
> =

> > OK, here's some of the errors I get with Mozilla.  It looks like it
> > happens when Gdk runs out os SysV shared memory.  Otherwise, if I
> > don't get the "Gdk-WARNING **: shmget failed!", the ld.so erros never=

> > occur, and Mozilla runs OK.  It seems as if Wine is working OK so far=
,
> > though, although I probably haven't tested Wine enough:
> [...]
> > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Application locking error: 1 readers and 1
> > writers in dynamic linker.  See DLLOCKINIT(3) in manual pages.
> =

> This means that one thread was in the middle of a dlopen() call
> when another thread either called a new function for the first time
> (invoking the dynamic linker for lazy binding) or called dlsym().
> Really the only _right_ place I can find to fix this kind of thing is
> in the application itself, by calling dllockinit() to set up locking
> for the dynamic linker invocations. =

I just reverted back to the "normal" version of ld-elf.so, the version =

without the patch.=A0 Mozilla doesn't have the problem with the =

"non-patch" version.=A0 So, maybe it isn't the application.=A0 Or, maybe =
the =

original, "non-patch" version wasn't doing something right.

Just wondering, in case the problem isn't with Mozilla.=A0 I'm using =

Mozilla right now, with the original ld-elf.so.1.=A0 (The fonts are hard =

on my eyes.)

- Donn



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On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote:

> Not sure when this started, but there is a problem with using mget.  It
> works just fine on wizard, but on usw2 it only will grab the files in
> 4.0-YYYYMMDD-CURRENT and the src directory:
> 
> ncftp>mget [A-U]* [b-m]* p[or]* src
> p[or]*: No match.
> 
> It doen't like globbing for directories anymore.  They must be explicit.

Yes! I had noticed this as well and wanted to check more carefully before
opening my mouth to make sure I wasn't just smoking crack. This definitely
needs to be looked at.

Kris

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At 09:26 AM 3/8/00 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
>> For just ftp (wizard) or on current (usw2) as well?
>
>These snapshots are only going up on ftp, sorry for the confusion.
>The stuff on current is just the daily snapshot stuff and not entirely
>equivalent to the URLs I specifically gave out.

OK, So I take it that the 0308 SNAP on current.freebsd.org still has this
bug ? 

	---Mike
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On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Adriel Ickler wrote:

> cvsup to current
> make buildworld
> make buildkernel
> make installkernel
> - change - I just rebooted normally, the network came up fine, if you
>   have any special kernel needs, make sure you have di lines in

This may screw you because some device nodes (e.g. ATA drives) have
changed from 3.x to 4.x. You really need to mergemaster and re-MAKEDEV
before rebooting, which requires you to install mknod as described in
UPDATING. You should also do the rest of the upgrade in single-user mode
(e.g. I forgot and tried to boot multi-user, and the system paniced at
boot trying to load the linux KLD from /etc/rc.).

> ok, here is where I discovered something nobody told me about.
> 4.0 moved me from DES to MD5.  the effect was that none of the passwords
> worked.

This is because you presumably didn't install the crypto sources and/or
build them.

> luckily I was logged in as root already, and only had 4 accts, I
> just ran the passwd command and reset them.  if its a nightmare to move
> your accounts, and/or you want to keep DES, I have been told that adding
> the line "auth_default  =       des" in /etc/auth.conf will keep you on
> DES.

This won't do anything.

Kris

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On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Matthew N. Dodd wrote:

> 
> usr.sbin/ppp/
> usr.sbin/pppd/
> secure/libexec/telnetd/ (actually the Makefile below telnetd/ is the problem.)
> secure/usr.bin/telnet/
> 
> These all require simple !defined(NO_OPENSSL) additions.

Known problem - see the patch I posted about 2 days ago which I already
referred to in an earlier reply to you in this meta-thread. I think it's
hit a bug in jordan.pl which means it isn't spitting out automatic commit
approval; perhaps I should re-send it.

Kris

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Sheldon Hearn wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 06 Mar 2000 16:38:44 PST, R Joseph Wright wrote:
> 
> > I just built a new world today and openssh does not appear to be
> > installed.  I have the directories /etc/ssh and /etc/ssl but they are
> > empty.  There is no /usr/bin/ssh.
> 
> Last night's ``make world'' scored me a /usr/bin/ssh, but an empty
> /etc/ssh .  I'm curious to know how /etc/ssh will be populated, since
> mergemaster won't pick up an sshd_config in src/etc .

	mm only knows about what's in /usr/src/etc/Makefile. ssh_config and
sshd_config are in there, so if you run mm and you have those bits in
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Hi,
	I'm using a FreeBSD-current snapshot from 3rd January 2000. It seems
that in order to enable APICs (option APIC_IO in kernel configuration file),
one needs to also compile the kernel with SMP support (option SMP in kernel
configuration file). While enabling the APIC is desirable even on a 
uniprocessor (provides more IRQs, interrupt ovhd becomes less, provides
on-chip timer), enabling SMP support on a uniprocessor brings down the 
performance (I've noticed a degradation of 22% in performance of a webserver
when a kernel was compiled with SMP support than without). Would it be possible
to allow enabling the APIC without requiring support for SMP in future
versions of FreeBSD ?

Since I'm using a snapshot that's about two months old, I apologize if the
above has already been addressed in the latest snapshots.



- Mohit


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With USA_RESIDENT=YES NOINFO=true NOGAMES=true NODESCRYPTLINKS=true
NO_OPENSSH=true, I get this on a buildworld when updating a Jan 15th box.


===> libpam/modules/pam_ssh
cc -pipe -O -Wall -I/FBSD/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_ssh/../../../../crypto/openssh -I/usr/obj/FBSD/src/i386/usr/include -c /FBSD/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_ssh/../../../../crypto/openssh/log-client.c -o log-client.o
cc -pipe -O -Wall -I/FBSD/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_ssh/../../../../crypto/openssh -I/usr/obj/FBSD/src/i386/usr/include -c /FBSD/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_ssh/../../../../crypto/openssh/pam_ssh/pam_ssh.c -o pam_ssh.o
building standard pam_ssh library
ranlib libpam_ssh.a
cc -fpic -DPIC -pipe -O -Wall -I/FBSD/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_ssh/../../../../crypto/openssh -I/usr/obj/FBSD/src/i386/usr/include -c /FBSD/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_ssh/../../../../crypto/openssh/log-client.c -o log-client.So
cc -fpic -DPIC -pipe -O -Wall -I/FBSD/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_ssh/../../../../crypto/openssh -I/usr/obj/FBSD/src/i386/usr/include -c /FBSD/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_ssh/../../../../crypto/openssh/pam_ssh/pam_ssh.c -o pam_ssh.So
building shared library pam_ssh.so
/usr/obj/FBSD/src/i386/usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot open -lssh: No such file or directory
*** Error code 1

Stop in /FBSD/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_ssh.
*** Error code 1


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At 09:26 AM 3/8/00 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
>> For just ftp (wizard) or on current (usw2) as well?
>
>These snapshots are only going up on ftp, sorry for the confusion.
>The stuff on current is just the daily snapshot stuff and not entirely
>equivalent to the URLs I specifically gave out.

Bummer.  The xfer rate is so much better. ;)


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Hi, I just installed RC3, and I have the same problem as on RC2, when I run
"zzz" my machine turns off the monitor, stops the disk, etc etc. Actually is
does everything it´s supposed to, except go to stand-by mode (give the beep
and turn off).

So when i press any key, the machine wakes up again?? Is this a know
problem?

All I did was to add apm_enable="YES" to rc.conf and remove the diskable in
the KERNEL line, my dmesg looks like this:

Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 4.0-20000307-CURRENT #2: Wed Mar  8 20:07:09 CET 2000
    root@:/usr/src/sys/compile/SOS
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (363.96-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x66a  Stepping = 10

Features=0x183f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,
PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR>
real memory  = 200278016 (195584K bytes)
avail memory = 190607360 (186140K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0367000.
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
md0: Malloc disk
npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
apm0: <APM BIOS> on motherboard
apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2
pcib0: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
pcib1: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) PCI-PCI (AGP) bridge> at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib1
pci1: <NeoMagic MagicMedia 256AV SVGA controller> at 0.0 irq 11
pcic-pci0: <TI PCI-1251 PCI-CardBus Bridge> mem 0x50102000-0x50102fff irq 11
at device 2.0 on pci0
pcic-pci1: <TI PCI-1251 PCI-CardBus Bridge> mem 0x50101000-0x50101fff irq 11
at device 2.1 on pci0
csa0: <Crystal Semiconductor CS4610/4611 Audio accelerator> mem
0x50000000-0x500fffff,0x50100000-0x50100fff irq 11 at device 6.0 on pci0
pcm0: <CS461x PCM Audio> on csa0
pcm0: ac97 codec reports dac not ready
isab0: <Intel 82371AB PCI to ISA bridge> at device 7.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
atapci0: <Intel PIIX4 ATA33 controller> port 0xfcf0-0xfcff at device 7.1 on
pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
pci0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> at 7.2 irq 11
chip1: <Intel 82371AB Power management controller> port 0xefa0-0xefaf at
device 7.3 on pci0
fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
atkbdc0: <keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60-0x6f on isa0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
psm0: <PS/2 Mouse> irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: model MouseMan+, device ID 0
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
sc0: <System console> on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200>
pcic: management irq 10
pcic0: <Intel i82365> at port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 irq 10 on isa0
pccard0: <PC Card bus -- kludge version> on pcic0
pccard1: <PC Card bus -- kludge version> on pcic0
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range
pccard: card inserted, slot 1
ata1-slave: ata_command: timeout waiting for intr
ata1-slave: identify failed
ad0: 6149MB <HITACHI_DK228A-65B> [13328/15/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33
acd0: DVD-ROM <TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-C2102> at ata1-master using PIO4
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s3a
ep0: <3Com Etherlink III 3C589> at port 0x240-0x24f irq 3 slot 1 on pccard1
ep0: Ethernet address 00:a0:24:60:02:36
ep0: supplying EUI64: 00:a0:24:ff:fe:60:02:36
ep0: unload
stray irq 3
pccard: card disabled, slot 1
resumed from suspended mode (slept 00:00:10)
pccard: card inserted, slot 1
ata0: resetting devices .. done
ata1: resetting devices .. done
ep0: <3Com Etherlink III 3C589> at port 0x240-0x24f irq 3 slot 1 on pccard1
ep0: Ethernet address 00:a0:24:60:02:36
ep0: starting DAD for fe80:0009::02a0:24ff:fe60:0236
ep0: DAD complete for fe80:0009::02a0:24ff:fe60:0236 - no duplicates found



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From owner-freebsd-current  Wed Mar  8 11:46:30 2000
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Subject: Re: RC3: APM on IBM Thinkpad 600E (2645,5A0)
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On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 08:45:34PM +0100, Morten Seeberg wrote:
> Hi, I just installed RC3, and I have the same problem as on RC2, when I run
> "zzz" my machine turns off the monitor, stops the disk, etc etc. Actually is
> does everything it´s supposed to, except go to stand-by mode (give the beep
> and turn off).
> 
> So when i press any key, the machine wakes up again?? Is this a know
> problem?
> 
> All I did was to add apm_enable="YES" to rc.conf and remove the diskable in
> the KERNEL line, my dmesg looks like this:

I have the exact same problem on my Thinkpad 600E, earlier I tracked it
down to a change in the below interval.

Only my wakes up without me touching anything ...

*default date=2000.01.13.23.00.00      ok
*default date=2000.01.15.23.00.00      cannot build
*default date=2000.01.15.03.00.00      cannot build
*default date=2000.01.14.12.00.00      cannot build
*default date=2000.01.14.06.00.00      cannot build
*default date=2000.01.16.18.00.00      cannot build
*default date=2000.01.17.02.00.00      cannot build
*default date=2000.01.17.23.00.00      cannot build
*default date=2000.01.17.13.00.00      cannot build
*default date=2000.01.14.03.00.00      cannot build
*default date=2000.01.16.08.00.00      cannot build
*default date=2000.01.18.22.00.00      builds - no suspend

Is there any debug'ing we can enable, that will be enable us to track
down what 'awakens it' ?

/Jesper

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Subject: RC3: No support for 3C589B/C (ep0) during install?
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I just installed RC3 on my laptop, and I wasn´t able to use my 3Com PCMCIA
3C589C card during install?? Hmm this couldn´t be true, so I tried booting
the floppies again, and this I actually read the text, and it really doesn´t
make much sense :)

*<headline>Please select IRQs that can be used by PC-cards</headline>
*Please specify an IRQs that CANNOT be used by PC-card for example, if you
have a *soundcard that can't be probed by this installation floppy and it
uses IRQ 10, you *have to choose "Option 1" or "Option 2" at this menu.
*
*Default  IRQ 10, 11
*Option 1 IRQ 5, 11 (ex. soundcard on IRQ 10)
*Option 2 IRQ 11 (ex. something on IRQ 5 and 10)

Is it just me, or does the headline and description say the exact opposite
of each other?

Now, I got my card working by choosing Option 1, but Im not really sure why,
as you can see below, my card uses IRQ 3 for some odd reason.
Why doesn´t my PCMCIA card automatically use a higher free IRQ? (IRQ 3 is
used by my serial ports AFAIK)
IRQ 3 isn´t even mentioned in the Options above (only 5, 10 and 11)

*This is how it shows itself after install, when enabling PCCARD:
*ep0: <3Com Etherlink III 3C589> at port 0x240-0x24f irq 3 slot 1 on pccard1
*ep0: Ethernet address 00:a0:24:60:02:36
*ep0: supplying EUI64: 00:a0:24:ff:fe:60:02:36
*ep0: unload
*stray irq 3

What is EUI64 BTW?

And BTW; what does this mean? (DAD???):
*ep0: starting DAD for fe80:0009::02a0:24ff:fe60:0236
*ep0: DAD complete for fe80:0009::02a0:24ff:fe60:0236 - no duplicates found

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All flames welcome as a learning experience.... ;-)

	I am currently running a -current on a group of machines where I
work.  I decided to use the MD5 libscrypt passwords, and noticed something
strange in the daily output e-mail.  When the MD5 passwords are used the
daily output e-mail fails to truncate the encrypted passwd from the
/etc/master.passwd file before e-mailing out the diffs.  This is the case
even on a machine which was built today.  I haven't seen any info on
-current about it so I thought I would bring it up.

	I also wrote and attached small patch to take care of the issue in
the short term. all it does is change:

diff $bak/master.passwd.bak /etc/master.passwd |\
                sed 's/^\([<>] [^:]*\):[^:]*:/\1:(password):/'
to:

diff $bak/master.passwd.bak /etc/master.passwd |\
                sed 's/^\([^:]*\):[^:]*:/\1:(password):/'

	My logic could be messed up, so if there are any issues that I
overlooked in the patch I would love to hear about them.  I thought it
might be a good thing to take care of quick before -RELEASE (yea!)

Thanks all...

Damieon Stark
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I could have swore I set this during the initial installation, but it did
not get set in /etc/rc.conf.  I am going to do another install tonight and
verify if this is the case. Has anyone else noticed this ?  Its very
possible I made a typo, but I thought I would mention it just in case.

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Oliver Fromme <olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> writes:

> Apart from my stupidness of not checking the location of the
> binary first -- what did I do wrong, and what's the recommended
> way of handling this?  Am I supposed to rm /usr/bin/ssh each
> time I install a new release or snapshot?  I can't believe
> that.

You could use /usr/bin/ssh, for a start.  Note that this is OpenSSH,
though, so there may be incompatibilities with ssh1.

The other alternative is to put /usr/local/bin in the front of the
path.

A third alternative is to build without OpenSSH by tweaking
make.conf.  (Note that there is now /etc/default/make.conf which means
that you can't look in /etc/make.conf for the new option.)

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Is it possible that bridging is broken in -current and -stable?

Some minutes (02 - 30 min.) after bootup I get:

Fatal trap 12: Page fault while in kernel mode
fault code: Supervisor read, page not present

Sorry, i´ve no further crashlogs/dumps.


This panic occur only with bridging enabled - in -current AND -stable.
My last working (stable) kernel with bridging is from 17 Jan 2000.

Extract from -current dmesg:



de0: <Digital 21143 Fast Ethernet> port 0xe000-0xe07f \
     mem 0xe5000000-0xe50003ff irq 7 at device 9.0 on pci0
de0: 21143 [10-100Mb/s] pass 4.1
de0: address 00:80:ad:78:11:4b
de0: driver is using old-style compatability shims
de1: <Digital 21041 Ethernet> port 0xd400-0xd47f \
     mem 0xe4000000-0xe400007f irq 11 at device 12.0 on pci0
de1: 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 1.1
de1: address 00:80:ad:1c:af:a8
de1: driver is using old-style compatability shims


BRIDGE 990810, have 13 interfaces
 -- index 1  type 6 phy 0 addrl 6 addr 00.80.ad.78.11.4b
 -- index 2  type 6 phy 0 addrl 6 addr 00.80.ad.1c.af.a8


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On Wed, 08 Mar 2000, Walter Brameld wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Mar 2000, F. Heinrichmeyer wrote:
> > It works if you can switch your parallel port to EPP (???) mode in the
> > bios. Transfer speed raises also under windows with this configuration
> > btw.
> > 

Thanks again for the advice. For the record, that fixed it. Guess if I
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>
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> 
> Is it possible that bridging is broken in -current and -stable?

no, but the "de" driver on bridging is now unsupported and i could not
find the time to make it work after recent fixes to the bridging code.

can you switch to some supported card ("ed" or "fxp") ?

	cheers
	luigi
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On 08-Mar-00 Morten Seeberg wrote:
> Now, I got my card working by choosing Option 1, but Im not really sure why,
> as you can see below, my card uses IRQ 3 for some odd reason.
> Why doesn´t my PCMCIA card automatically use a higher free IRQ? (IRQ 3 is
> used by my serial ports AFAIK)
> IRQ 3 isn´t even mentioned in the Options above (only 5, 10 and 11)

I'm not sure why it works either but it does.  FWIW, on the DuncePad I have here,
the PC-Card controller (pcic0) uses irq 10.

> *This is how it shows itself after install, when enabling PCCARD:
> *ep0: <3Com Etherlink III 3C589> at port 0x240-0x24f irq 3 slot 1 on pccard1
> *ep0: Ethernet address 00:a0:24:60:02:36
> *ep0: supplying EUI64: 00:a0:24:ff:fe:60:02:36
> *ep0: unload
> *stray irq 3
> 
> What is EUI64 BTW?

Has to do with IPv6.

> And BTW; what does this mean? (DAD???):
> *ep0: starting DAD for fe80:0009::02a0:24ff:fe60:0236
> *ep0: DAD complete for fe80:0009::02a0:24ff:fe60:0236 - no duplicates found

More IPv6 stuff.

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> On 2000-Mar-07 06:29:17 +1100, Dave Boers <djb@wit389306.student.utwente.nl> wrote:
> >It is rumoured that Arun Sharma had the courage to say:
> >> Compiling Mozilla with make -j 2 got -current to lock up, twice in
> >> succession. I'm running a fairly recent snapshot (a week or two old)
> >> on a Dual celeron box (BP6) with UDMA66 enabled.
> >
> >Finally. I've been complaining about this on several occasions. I'm also
> >running UDMA66 and Dual Celeron BP6. No overclocking. 
> 
> Later postings mention possible problems with UDMA66.  The other
> possibility that has been discussed recently is potential priority
> inversions for processes using rtptio and idprio.
> 
> Note that ntpd will use rtprio if the Posix P1003.1b extensions aren't
> enabled in the kernel.  (These were enabled by default in GENERIC on
> i386 in mid-January).  If you have the new ntpd (rather than xntpd)
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> potentially get a lockup due to a priority inversion.  (Though I
> think the probability is very small).

There's no difference between rtprio and P1003.1B scheduling other than
the name.  rtprio is the same as P1003.1B "SCHED_RR".

I'd like to remove the rtprio call from ntpd.  I think we ought to do
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On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 11:15:23PM +0100, Luigi Rizzo wrote:

> > 
> > Is it possible that bridging is broken in -current and -stable?
> 
> no, but the "de" driver on bridging is now unsupported and i could not
> find the time to make it work after recent fixes to the bridging code.

Ooohhhhhhhh noooo! :-((
The best nic´s all around are unsupported? ;)

> can you switch to some supported card ("ed" or "fxp") ?

Hmm, "ed" is lousy and "fxp" is too expensive for me now...

How great is the chance that good old dec is coming back?
I could help you testing your code... :)

I would like to prevent to buy new hardware again.


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Dear users,

I (last) cvupped -CURRENT on 6 March at about 11:00 pm GMT, and, with
few (necessary) variations, I tried to follow the instructions in
UPDATING on the next day.

I *seem* to have upgraded to -CURRENT.

FWIW, here is what I did:

1) /usr/src/make -j48 buildworld
2) /usr/src/sbin/mknod/make install
3) followed the directions to build/install a kernel.
   Remark: config -r core dumps (bad system call);
   config (no option) does not.
4) rebuilt disk /dev entries; updated the relevant files (/etc/fstab).
   In order not to forget anything, I issued various grep -r commands.
5) reboot in s.u.m.
   Remark I : the root partition is seen as wd1s2a; the others are
   seen correctly.
   Remark II: if one happens to reboot, one meets a FATAL TRAP; after
   rebooting, one is denied access to / .
   Workaround: I booted from another installation of mine (-STABLE)
   on another slice, and ran fsck from there.
6) /usr/src/make installworld
   I got this error: lib/libcom_errdoc [omissis] unrecognized option
   `--defsection=3DProgramming & development tools.'
   Error code 1 (six times)

7) /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/make clean all install NOSHARED=3DYES
8) /usr/src/make installworld
   It failed with the same errors as sub 6).
9) /usr/src/make -DNOINFO installworld
   I got another error: install: genassym: no such file or directory.
   Error code 71.
   Error code 1 (five times.) It was time to use ... the Force.

10) /usr/src/make -DNOINFO -k installworld
11) /usr/src/make -k installworld
    Alas, I did not log the sessions sub 10) and sub 11) because ... I
    did NOT believe I would succeed in making installworld #@[]*^=A7
    [severely censored]
12) mergemaster, devices, sysinstall and (yet another) kernel by the
    book. Remark I: making sysintall failed: undefined reference in
    pccard Initialize.
    Error code 1.
    Remark II: this time config -r worked.


If I had used -k properly, I would have finished earlier.
I suppose I am somehow running -CURRENT (?)

N.B. I am Italian and I chose MD5, discarding everything DES-related.
I suppose this has automagically eliminated a few problems.




Under -STABLE, I used to compile my kernels with a0ffa0ff flags for my
IDE disks 0 and 1, and b0ff for my third IDE disk. Under -CURRENT, I
specified the ata driver as per the suggestions in LINT, and I did NOT
specified ata0 and ata1; which are indicated for older systems. The
log messages show that all three disks are accessed in UDMA 33 mode
and are seen as having **16** heads.

However, I must miss something obvious here (yawn) how can I specify
the LBA mode for my third disk ? Is it automagically set ??? I fear
I can corrupt part of my filesytems: my /usr lives on my third IDE
disk (formerly accessed in LBA mode.)

Another problem. I get "isa0: unexpected tag 14" while booting.
What am I missing ?

There are other questions: e.g. X authentication fails. Pam.conf and
ttys are all right, though.

Before attacking all of them (grepping -r the d***ed wd disks and
recompiling the related ports ...), I would like to be in a position
to recompile things in /usr without running any risks to destroy that
filesystem. In this way, I will also be able te remake the world once
more ...

I thank you very much in advance for any help.

Best regards,
Salvo





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Dear users,

I forgot to specify (yawn ..) that, after recompiling another kernel=20
at the end of my upgrading procedure, I no longer saw the "wd1s2a"=20
problem. My / device was correctly identified as ad1s2a :-)

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On Wed, 08 Mar 2000, in a never-ending search for enlightenment, J McKitrick wrote:
> Here is a concern i have.  I had a hard time getting my parallel port
> zip to work under 3.4.  It turned out there may be a bug in my bios
> that required me to change from EPP mode to standard bi-directional.
> Walter noted that EPP mode worked OK for him under 3.4, but did not
> under -current.  Oddly enough, EPP mode worked fine under win95, so
> there doesn't seem to be some innate incompatiblity between my laptop
> and Zip drives in EPP mode.  Is this worth looking into?
> -- 
> -=> jm <=-
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> freebsd-uk.eu.org

Let me try to add a little info to that.....

When I installed my zip on 3.4-STABLE, it worked right off the bat so I
didn't pay any attention as to what dmesg said about the drive or the
parallel port. I wish I had so I could provide the information for
completeness.

Initially under 4.0-CURRENT, my port came up NIBBLE and the drive as
EPP 1.9. ON Fritz Heinrichmeyer's (Hope I got that right) advice, I
changed the BIOS setting of my port to EPP 1.7, my only other choice.
Here is the dmesg that resulted:

Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
	The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Mar  7 16:17:46 EST 2000
    root@:/usr/src/sys/compile/NEWKERN
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon (463.91-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x673  Stepping = 3
  Features=0x383f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,XMM>

<- snip ->

ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
vpo0: <Iomega Matchmaker Parallel to SCSI interface> on ppbus0
imm0: EPP 1.9 mode
sbc0: <Creative SB16/SB32> at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5 drq 1,5 on isa0
sbc0: setting card to irq 5, drq 1, 5
pcm0: <SB DSP 4.16> on sbc0
unknown0: <Game> at port 0x200-0x207 on isa0
unknown1: <Cqm> at port 0x620-0x623 on isa0
ad0: 17206MB <WDC AC418000D> [34960/16/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33
ad1: 8693MB <WDC AC29100D> [17662/16/63] at ata0-slave using UDMA33
acd0: CDROM <BCD-48SB CD-ROM> at ata1-master using WDMA2
da0 at vpo0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0
da0: <IOMEGA ZIP 100 PLUS J.66> Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
da0: 96MB (196608 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 96C)
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad1s1a
cd9660: Joliet Extension

The Mobo is an ABIT BX6 Revision 2. Hope this may be of some help.

 --  Walter Brameld

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On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/alpha/4.0-20000307-CURRENT
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/4.0-20000307-CURRENT
> 
> With ISO images available from:
> 
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/ISO-IMAGES/4.0-20000307-CURRENT/
>

I tried to burn this image and it was too big for a standard 74 min CD.

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On 2000-Mar-09 10:05:21 +1100, Peter Dufault <dufault@hda.com> wrote:
>There's no difference between rtprio and P1003.1B scheduling other than
>the name.  rtprio is the same as P1003.1B "SCHED_RR".

I wasn't aware of that.

>I'd like to remove the rtprio call from ntpd.  I think we ought to do
>it now before 4.0 ships.

Given there is a known a priority inversion bug related to realtime
(or idle) scheduling, it would seem wise not to use it in any system
utilities.  The relevant patch would appear to be (untested):

--- /usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/config.h	Tue Feb  1 13:56:05 2000
+++ /tmp/config.h	Thu Mar  9 11:46:11 2000
@@ -619,10 +619,10 @@
 #define HAVE_RANDOM 1
 
 /* Define if you have the rtprio function.  */
-#define HAVE_RTPRIO 1
+/* #undef HAVE_RTPRIO */
 
 /* Define if you have the sched_setscheduler function.  */
-#define HAVE_SCHED_SETSCHEDULER 1
+/* #undef HAVE_SCHED_SETSCHEDULER */
 
 /* Define if you have the setlinebuf function.  */
 #define HAVE_SETLINEBUF 1

Peter


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Dear users,

I forgot to specify another point in my first letter:=20
"N.B. I am Italian and I chose MD5, discarding everything DES-related.
I suppose this has automagically eliminated a few problems."

I chose MD5 when installing FreeBSD-3.3-Release, whence I upgraded to=20
-STABLE and finally to -CURRENT.=20

Sorry for these omissions :-(=20
I should really go to bed *sigh*

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Hello,

I have been searching through deja.com for over a week now and I can't
find an answer to this question. I was wondering if 4.0 comes with
kerberos 5 built-in? Or do I just use the kr5 port? Does it have a PAM?

I want to use k5 and a PAM for k5 logins. I know this is "doable" with
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On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 04:45:39PM -0800, Brian Beattie wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> 
> > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/alpha/4.0-20000307-CURRENT
> > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/4.0-20000307-CURRENT
> > 
> > With ISO images available from:
> > 
> > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/ISO-IMAGES/4.0-20000307-CURRENT/
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> 
> I tried to burn this image and it was too big for a standard 74 min CD.

Fit fine on the cdr that I burned (~549MB as I recall).

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Urk!  Geeze, how did I not notice that.  Must have been the hour.
I'm fixing this now, sorry guys.

- Jordan

> On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
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> > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/alpha/4.0-20000307-CURRENT
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> > 
> > With ISO images available from:
> > 
> > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/ISO-IMAGES/4.0-20000307-CURRENT
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> >
> 
> I tried to burn this image and it was too big for a standard 74 min CD.
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Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.0 release candidate #3 now available.
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On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Bob Willcox wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 04:45:39PM -0800, Brian Beattie wrote:
> > On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> > 
> > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/alpha/4.0-20000307-CURRENT
> > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/4.0-20000307-CURRENT
> > > 
> > > With ISO images available from:
> > > 
> > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/ISO-IMAGES/4.0-20000307-CURRENT/
> > >
> > 
> > I tried to burn this image and it was too big for a standard 74 min CD.
> 
> Fit fine on the cdr that I burned (~549MB as I recall).

The image I got was 655MB, I suspect you grabbed it while it was
uploading.

500 'EPRT |1|138.95.12.36|49359|': command not understood.
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for 'file list'.
total 1297625
-rw-r--r--  1 root  207          117 Mar  8 23:42 CHECKSUM.MD5
-rw-r--r--  1 2035  207    641435648 Mar  8 22:18 install-alpha.iso
-rw-r--r--  1 2035  207    687331328 Mar  8 22:27 install-i386.iso
226 Transfer complete.


> 
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On Wed, 08 Mar 2000, in a never-ending search for enlightenment, Salvo Bartolotta wrote:
> Dear users,
> 
> I forgot to specify another point in my first letter: 
> "N.B. I am Italian and I chose MD5, discarding everything DES-related.
> I suppose this has automagically eliminated a few problems."
> 
> I chose MD5 when installing FreeBSD-3.3-Release, whence I upgraded to 
> -STABLE and finally to -CURRENT. 
> 
> Sorry for these omissions :-( 
> I should really go to bed *sigh*
> 
> Best regards,
> Salvo

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On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 05:34:02PM -0800, Brian Beattie wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Bob Willcox wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 04:45:39PM -0800, Brian Beattie wrote:
> > > On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> > > 
> > > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/alpha/4.0-20000307-CURRENT
> > > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/4.0-20000307-CURRENT
> > > > 
> > > > With ISO images available from:
> > > > 
> > > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/ISO-IMAGES/4.0-20000307-CURRENT/
> > > >
> > > 
> > > I tried to burn this image and it was too big for a standard 74 min CD.
> > 
> > Fit fine on the cdr that I burned (~549MB as I recall).
> 
> The image I got was 655MB, I suspect you grabbed it while it was
> uploading.

Quite possible. I have not yet tried to use it. I notice now that the
install-i386.iso file is gone.

Oh, well.  Looks like I probably have another coaster.  :-(

Bob

> 
> 500 'EPRT |1|138.95.12.36|49359|': command not understood.
> 200 PORT command successful.
> 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for 'file list'.
> total 1297625
> -rw-r--r--  1 root  207          117 Mar  8 23:42 CHECKSUM.MD5
> -rw-r--r--  1 2035  207    641435648 Mar  8 22:18 install-alpha.iso
> -rw-r--r--  1 2035  207    687331328 Mar  8 22:27 install-i386.iso
> 226 Transfer complete.
> 

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From owner-freebsd-current  Wed Mar  8 17:42:26 2000
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hi,

Finallly I got make release work :^) thx to everyone who helping me about.

After make release, I believe nothing about X has been add into. I am just
woundring about how do I make a release which is just the same as those
SNAP released on the net? So I can use it to burn a CD, and use it to
install on a system with no NIC.


thanks in advance...



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From owner-freebsd-current  Wed Mar  8 18:27: 3 2000
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Says, it can't chdir into the 4.0-20000307-CURRENT directory.
It does work from current.FreeBSD.org. Looking on ftp.freebsd.org
I do not see a link under /pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ ? that maybe
the missing link ?

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On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Boris Staeblow wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 11:15:23PM +0100, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
>=20
> > >=20
> > > Is it possible that bridging is broken in -current and -stable?
> >=20
> > no, but the "de" driver on bridging is now unsupported and i could not
> > find the time to make it work after recent fixes to the bridging code.
>=20
> Ooohhhhhhhh noooo! :-((
> The best nic=B4s all around are unsupported? ;)
>=20
> > can you switch to some supported card ("ed" or "fxp") ?
>=20
> Hmm, "ed" is lousy and "fxp" is too expensive for me now...
>=20
> How great is the chance that good old dec is coming back?
> I could help you testing your code... :)
>=20
> I would like to prevent to buy new hardware again.

I have what appear to be functional patches to provide support for if_dc,
used in the common and cheap PCI Linksys ethernet cards (LNE100TX?).  If
jkh approves the commit, I can stick it in before the release.  I don't
have access to an if_de card where I am currently, so won't be able to
look at that for at least a week or two.

The patch for if_dc is below.

  Robert N M Watson=20

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Index: if_dc.c
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c,v
retrieving revision 1.7
diff -u -r1.7 if_dc.c
--- if_dc.c=092000/01/24 17:19:37=091.7
+++ if_dc.c=092000/03/08 18:15:55
@@ -122,6 +122,11 @@
=20
 #include <net/bpf.h>
=20
+#include "opt_bdg.h"
+#ifdef BRIDGE=20
+#include <net/bridge.h>
+#endif
+
 #include <vm/vm.h>              /* for vtophys */
 #include <vm/pmap.h>            /* for vtophys */
 #include <machine/clock.h>      /* for DELAY */
@@ -2099,14 +2104,30 @@
 =09=09ifp->if_ipackets++;
 =09=09eh =3D mtod(m, struct ether_header *);
=20
-=09=09/*
-=09=09 * Handle BPF listeners. Let the BPF user see the packet, but
-=09=09 * don't pass it up to the ether_input() layer unless it's
+=09=09/* Handle BPF listeners. Let the BPF user see the packet */
+=09=09if (ifp->if_bpf)
+=09=09=09bpf_mtap(ifp, m);
+
+#ifdef BRIDGE
+=09=09if (do_bridge) {
+=09=09=09struct ifnet *bdg_ifp ;
+=09=09=09bdg_ifp =3D bridge_in(m);
+=09=09=09if (bdg_ifp !=3D BDG_LOCAL && bdg_ifp !=3D BDG_DROP)
+=09=09=09=09bdg_forward(&m, bdg_ifp);
+=09=09=09if (((bdg_ifp !=3D BDG_LOCAL) && (bdg_ifp !=3D BDG_BCAST) &&=09=
=09=09    (bdg_ifp !=3D BDG_MCAST)) || bdg_ifp =3D=3D BDG_DROP) {
+=09=09=09=09m_freem(m);
+=09=09=09=09continue;
+=09=09=09}
+=09=09}
+
+=09eh =3D mtod(m, struct ether_header *);
+#endif
+
+=09=09/* Don't pass it up to the ether_input() layer unless it's
 =09=09 * a broadcast packet, multicast packet, matches our ethernet
 =09=09 * address or the interface is in promiscuous mode.
 =09=09 */
 =09=09if (ifp->if_bpf) {
-=09=09=09bpf_mtap(ifp, m);
 =09=09=09if (ifp->if_flags & IFF_PROMISC &&
 =09=09=09=09(bcmp(eh->ether_dhost, sc->arpcom.ac_enaddr,
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From owner-freebsd-current  Wed Mar  8 19:43:40 2000
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within the last 4 days ive upgraded my system from 3.4-stable to -current.
until this morning, i had no problems really, but then (this morning) i no
longer was able to build any ports, kept receiving error:
Your system is too old to use this bsd.port.mk. You need a fresh make
world
or an upgrade kit. Please go to http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/ or a mirror
site and follow the instructions.
now there is obviously no upgrade kit for -current and i just did a make
world, yet i still get this error. ive also tried deleting my entire ports
collection and recvsuping fresh, but still same error.
any ideas how to rectify?

Jeremy



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Howdy,
	Have a look in bsd.port.mk for the version number that it needs to build
with. Then make a copy of /var/db/port.mkversion. Edit
/var/db/port.mkversion with the version number that bsd.port.mk requires.
	I had this same problem when the 34upgrade package had been altered with a
new version number, but had not been released as a new package...

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Chris Knight
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Ishmael
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 March 1999 14:44
> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: building ports
>
>
> within the last 4 days ive upgraded my system from 3.4-stable
> to -current.
> until this morning, i had no problems really, but then (this
> morning) i no
> longer was able to build any ports, kept receiving error:
> Your system is too old to use this bsd.port.mk. You need a fresh make
> world
> or an upgrade kit. Please go to http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/
> or a mirror
> site and follow the instructions.
> now there is obviously no upgrade kit for -current and i just
> did a make
> world, yet i still get this error. ive also tried deleting my
> entire ports
> collection and recvsuping fresh, but still same error.
> any ideas how to rectify?
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
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In article <38C68F72.4070405@cvzoom.net>,
Donn Miller  <dmmiller@cvzoom.net> wrote:

> I just reverted back to the "normal" version of ld-elf.so, the version 
> without the patch.  Mozilla doesn't have the problem with the 
> "non-patch" version.  So, maybe it isn't the application.  Or, maybe the 
> original, "non-patch" version wasn't doing something right.
> 
> Just wondering, in case the problem isn't with Mozilla.  I'm using 
> Mozilla right now, with the original ld-elf.so.1.  (The fonts are hard 
> on my eyes.)

Well, the whole situation is very complicated.  I'll append a
long-winded mail about it that I sent to Jordan and Peter.  (No answer
yet, but then Jordan was out of the country and Peter only answers 20%
of his mail as a rather crude form of flow control. ;-)

Briefly, we've been through 3 phases with the dynamic linker.

1. The olden days.  Resolving symbols was a read-only operation, so
it was re-entrant.  Dlopen was a "write" operation, so if any thread
was doing a dlopen then no other thread could be doing a dlopen or a
symbol lookup.  There weren't very many multi-threaded apps, and
there were even fewer that used dlopen.  So nobody saw any problems,
even though the potential was there.

2. What is in current today.  Resolving symbols is a "write"
operation, and so is dlopen.  So two threads trying to resolve
symbols simultaneously need mutual exclusion or problems can manifest
themselves.  (Resolving symbols being a "write" operation is basically
an implementation screw-up on my part, which is corrected in the
patch I posted.)  Meanwhile, there are a lot more multi-threaded
applications.  So we're seeing problems.  In an attempt to solve the
problems, I did two things: (a) provided the dllockinit(3) interface
so threads packages could tell the dynamic linker how to do locking,
and (b) implemented some default locking that would work in some cases
when threads packages didn't use dllockinit.  The default locking
works for userland threads packages, but not for kernel threads or
rfork threads.

3. The patch I posted.  It made symbol resolution read-only again,
but it also removed the default locking.  I was hoping that with
re-entrant symbol resolution, the default locking wouldn't be needed
any more.  The default locking is extremely bogus, because it makes
assumptions about how threads work which there's no real reason to
believe are correct.

John

[Here's the mail I sent that explains things in more detail.]

Sorry for this long mail, but I need your advice about a situation
that's kind of complicated.  I don't know whether you've been
following -current, but there's a new chapter in the continuing saga
of "The Dynamic Linker Breaks Some Random Multi-threaded Program
During a Code Freeze."  This time it's wine.  These breakages are all
connected, and I'll try to explain the whole story below, if only so
you won't think I just do shoddy work. :-) What I am looking for from
you is some guidance as to how much we want to mess with the rtld at
the 11th hour to fix wine.

There are two ways a program can enter the dynamic linker: either
(A) by innocently calling some external function for the first
time, causing lazy binding to be done for that function, or (B) by
deliberately calling dlopen() or one of its friends.  In long ago
olden times, A was effectively a read-only operation, while B mucked
with a bunch of data structures in the dynamic linker.  So a program
could safely have lots of threads doing A at the same time, or just
one thread doing B, but not both.

Then the need for better-scoped symbol lookups began to arise, and I
finally bit the bullet and made the lookup algorithm quite a bit more
complicated, a la Solaris and Linux.  This was the change we decided
to merge into 3.4 just before release, because it fixed some important
application -- which one I can't remember any more.  The changes I
put in to do this unfortunately changed operation "A" above into a
write operation too.  I.e., the lazy binding was no longer reentrant.
Soon I started receiving reports of strange failures in multi-threaded
programs.

I attacked this problem by introducing calls to reader/writer locking
functions in key places.  Since locking depends on the underlying
threads package, I also created the dllockinit() API through which
each threads package could tell the dynamic linker how to do locking.
At the same time I added default locking methods which would make
their best effort to lock (basically by masking a bunch of signals) in
case the threads package hadn't been modified to call dllockinit().
That's where things stand in -current today.

Unfortunately, wine uses rfork() to make threads, so each thread is
in its own process.  Consequently, the signal masking in the default
locking methods is ineffective.  Occasionally the dynamic linker gets
reentered and an assert fails.

I have changes in my local tree which fix the lookup algorithm so it
is reentrant again.  I didn't think it was possible before, but then
I found a way to do it using alloca().  This takes us back to the
traditional state of things, where lazy binding (the common case)
is reentrant but dlopen() is not.  I could make the default locking
methods no-ops and we'd be back to the situation we traditionally had.
That's what I think we should probably do.

For multi-threaded applications this would work almost all the
time.  It would fail only if one thread was in dlopen() when another
thread either called dlopen() itself or did something that made the
lazy binding code kick in.  Applications are smart enough to avoid
reentering dlopen, but short of suspending all other threads they
really don't have a way to prevent lazy binding from happening while a
separate thread is inside dlopen.  So applications could still fail,
but it would be very rare and it would be nothing new -- that risk has
been with us all along, even before I started messing with this stuff.
Applications whose thread packages called dllockinit() wouldn't have
problems under any circumstances, of course.

I think this would be a decent solution.  But past experience shows
that the N threads packages out there can tend to surprise me.  Do
you think I should just leave it alone until after 4.0 is released,
or is wine important enough that I should try to fix it even though
it's a bit risky?

The other possibility would be to fix the wine port so it calls
dllockinit() to set up locking.  I don't know for sure how hard that
would be, but it's probably a feasible solution.

John


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Will NIBBLE mode still be supported in 4.0?  Has anyone tried a ZIP drive with bios set at ECP or
standard setting?  I would like to know what to expect if i upgrade.
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I'm trying to use MS-VPN using poptop. (pptpd)

It  works nicely from home to my current at home, but not to my stable =
at work.

I have copied /etc/ppp/ppp.conf, /etc/ppp/ppp.secret and =
/usr/local/etc/pptpd.conf from the current to the stable machine.

When logging on to the stable, I get this in messages:
Mar  9 06:25:50 ns pptpd[88343]: GRE: =
read(fd=3D5,buffer=3D804d000,len=3D81
96) from PTY failed: status =3D 0 error =3D No error
Mar  9 06:25:50 ns pptpd[88343]: CTRL: PTY read or GRE write failed =
(pty,gre)=3D(5
,4)
ppp.log says repeately:

Mar  9 06:25:35 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2]
Mar  9 06:25:35 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2]
Mar  9 06:25:35 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000
Mar  9 06:25:35 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1500
Mar  9 06:25:35 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x469c1c68
Mar  9 06:25:35 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP)
Mar  9 06:25:35 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Stopped =
--> Req-Sent
Mar  9 06:25:38 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) =
state =3D Req-Sent
Mar  9 06:25:38 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2]
Mar  9 06:25:38 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2]
Mar  9 06:25:38 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000
Mar  9 06:25:38 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1500
Mar  9 06:25:38 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x469c1c68
Mar  9 06:25:38 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP)
Mar  9 06:25:41 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) =
state =3D Req-Sent

The windows machine just says "Verifying username and password".

I've tried chap instead of pap with no difference.

The stable is make-world'ed march 1.
What could I be missing?
Should I just wait to 4.0 gets released and upgrade at work?=20

Leif




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Just a quicky.  Since we now support IPv6 by default, you can imagine
environments where you have an interface and IPv4 is not in use.  My
tcpdump is from a rather elderly 4.0, so this may be fixed already, but:

  # tcpdump -eni bridge0
  tcpdump: WARNING: bridge0: no IPv4 address assigned
  tcpdump: listening on bridge0

That seems a litte gratuitous.  I'm quite aware that there is no IPv4
address assigned--that was intentional :-).  (This is a bridge snooping
interface--I don't want an IPv4 address)  If this is already fixed,
nevermind.. :-)

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> > > Is it possible that bridging is broken in -current and -stable?
> > 
> > no, but the "de" driver on bridging is now unsupported and i could not
> > find the time to make it work after recent fixes to the bridging code.
> 
> Ooohhhhhhhh noooo! :-((
> The best nic_s all around are unsupported? ;)

let me doubt it. i have had a fair amount of trouble with these nics,
maybe it's driver's fault, but still... anyways, the driver is
not as easy to work on as others.

> > can you switch to some supported card ("ed" or "fxp") ?
> 
> Hmm, "ed" is lousy and "fxp" is too expensive for me now...

at 10Mbit the ed does a reasonable job considering todays machines.
 will try and have a look at the de driver some time in the future.
cannot tell how far asway, sorry.

	cheers
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Something else I forgot when I installed 4.0: there are two files
referenced in /etc/syslog.conf which don't exist in a fresh install, so
syslogd complains about them at boot:

/var/log/cron
/var/log/security

These should probably be created as empty files at install-time - they
were only added in the last few months of 1999.

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 * From: Ishmael <ishmael@tranquility.net>

 * now there is obviously no upgrade kit for -current and i just did a make
 * world, yet i still get this error. ive also tried deleting my entire ports

You just did make world and still got this error?  That's not supposed
to happen.  What do

> ls -l /var/db/port.mkversion
> cat /var/db/port.mkversion

say?

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On Wed, 08 Mar 2000 09:56:56 PST, Doug Barton wrote:

> 	mm only knows about what's in /usr/src/etc/Makefile. ssh_config and
> sshd_config are in there, so if you run mm and you have those bits in
> your tree it'll install them.

Looks like mergemaster is much cleverer than I thought.  Being called Mr
Barton certainly _is_ a compliment! :-)

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On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 07:26:52AM +0100, Luigi Rizzo wrote:

> let me doubt it. i have had a fair amount of trouble with these nics,
> maybe it's driver's fault, but still... anyways, the driver is
> not as easy to work on as others.

For future investments: which nics do you recommend?
(stable driver, speed...) fxp?

> at 10Mbit the ed does a reasonable job considering todays machines.
>  will try and have a look at the de driver some time in the future.

ok.
Which nics are capable for bridging now in -current? ed, fxp, ...?


To prevent the page faults in the upcomping release the bridging support
should be disabled in if_de.
Maybe the manpage should note the real supported nics.


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I found no way to get kdm to work, it dumps core in a qt string find
routine. wdm works kind of (the window manager menu is buggy but
repairable).

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Good point, I forgot the link.  Fixed!

- Jordan

> Says, it can't chdir into the 4.0-20000307-CURRENT directory.
> It does work from current.FreeBSD.org. Looking on ftp.freebsd.org
> I do not see a link under /pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ ? that maybe
> the missing link ?
> 
> -- 
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> The other possibility would be to fix the wine port so it calls
> dllockinit() to set up locking.  I don't know for sure how hard that
> would be, but it's probably a feasible solution.

To be honest, I'd be the most comfortable with this solution but also
trust John's skills with the linker (certainly far more than I trust
mine :) to say that whatever he's comfortable with, I'm comfortable
with.

- Jordan


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> > let me doubt it. i have had a fair amount of trouble with these nics,
> > maybe it's driver's fault, but still... anyways, the driver is
> > not as easy to work on as others.
> 
> For future investments: which nics do you recommend?
> (stable driver, speed...) fxp?

probably, yes, though the whole bunch of drivers contributed by Bill
Paul look interesting as well (i have no idea on how good is the hardware,
e.g. the rl 8139 is not such a good card).

> Which nics are capable for bridging now in -current? ed, fxp, ...?

and 'rl' i think.

> To prevent the page faults in the upcomping release the bridging support
> should be disabled in if_de.
> Maybe the manpage should note the real supported nics.

wish i had more time.

	cheers
	luigi
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> On 2000-Mar-09 10:05:21 +1100, Peter Dufault <dufault@hda.com> wrote:
> >There's no difference between rtprio and P1003.1B scheduling other than
> >the name.  rtprio is the same as P1003.1B "SCHED_RR".
> 
> I wasn't aware of that.
> 
> >I'd like to remove the rtprio call from ntpd.  I think we ought to do
> >it now before 4.0 ships.
> 
> Given there is a known a priority inversion bug related to realtime
> (or idle) scheduling, it would seem wise not to use it in any system
> utilities.  The relevant patch would appear to be (untested):
> 
> --- /usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/config.h	Tue Feb  1 13:56:05 2000
> +++ /tmp/config.h	Thu Mar  9 11:46:11 2000

You have to do something in the "./configure" stuff. Hopefully someone
in the know can suggest the "--with-no-foobar" option needed on the
command line so I don't have to wade into it.

Autoconfiguring POSIX realtime is a bad, bad idea because:

1. You don't know if it is available in all environments;
2. You don't know who is allowed to use it;
3. You don't know what the heck it does.

It decidedly does not mean "run as fast as you can".

Peter
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From owner-freebsd-current  Thu Mar  9  3:32:27 2000
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well, on the advice of someone, i manually edited these files changing the
date in them to 20000201, before changing it it was 19990308.
i dunno if its significant, but i rebuilt using make buildworld, make
installworld.  and i did run mergemaster afterwards.
what date is supposed to be in this file btw?

Jeremy

> You just did make world and still got this error?  That's not supposed
> to happen.  What do
> 
> > ls -l /var/db/port.mkversion
> > cat /var/db/port.mkversion
> 
> say?
> 
> Satoshi
> 
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>>>>> In <20000308123340.F2878@stat.Duke.EDU> 
>>>>>	"Sean O'Connell" <sean@stat.Duke.EDU> wrote:

> On FreeBSD it was successful and there seems no problem.
Sean> One out of two is not bad :)

I think so too. :-)

Sean> Could your path be set in such a way that it is exec'ing 3.X
Sean> versions of fileutils or finger or something like that in 
Sean> /usr/local/bin rather than updated ones in /usr hierarchy.

No. These tools are all in /usr/bin.

Sean> Did you run mergemaster on /etc and/or update all the various
Sean> rc files?

Yes. I have just run mergemaster and reboot the system.

Sean> The /usr/X11R6/bin/X symlink really points to an updated
Sean> XF86_xxxx like you didn't switch for using XF86_S3 to XF86_SVGA
Sean> (only built this) but the symlink for X is still pointing to
Sean> XF86_S3.

I'm using X-TT server on both FreeBSD and FreeBSD(98). This morning, I
recompiled X-TT of FreeBSD(98) and there still is 'w: /dev/:0: No such
file or directory'. X is properly linked to XF98_MGA.xtt.

Sean> Curious... love a good mystery.

Yes, this is a mystery but not so serious...

Ok, I'll ask about this problem to FreeBSD(98)'s mailing list. It
may be pc98's problem...

Thank you all very much for your help.
-- 
NAKAJI Hiroyuki


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Hi, when booting off the RC3 ISO, I the the error:

Can´t work out which disk we are booting from.
Guessed BIOS device 0x8b not found by probes, defaulting to disk0:

The ISO only found my floppy as disk0 and my FAT partition as disk1.

Not the CD-ROM drive it booted off. It works just fine when booting off the
floppies. But if the RC3-ISO CD is in the Cd-ROM while booting off the disks
I still get the above error, although everything works fine, because I boot
off the floppies.

It´s like the bootloader cannot recognize the CD-ROM drive, but the GENERIC
can.

I have a IBM Thinkpad 600E, with the DVD drive.

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From: Edwin Kremer <edwin+freebsd-current@cs.uu.nl>
To: Ishmael <ishmael@tranquility.net>
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Subject: Re: building ports
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On Mon, Mar 08, 1999 at 09:44:26PM -0600, Ishmael wrote:

  : Your system is too old to use this bsd.port.mk.

According to the mail headers, your system clock is about one year
behind actual time. That might have screwed up the `make'...


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OK!

> 
> You have my OK to change the option, but you'll need Jordans
> OK to commit it.
> 
> Poul-Henning
> 
> In message <200003022033.NAA17898@harmony.village.org>, Warner Losh writes:
> >
> >Given that OpenBSD had the -e flag to fdisk first, and that it means
> >edit there and that disklabel -e means edit, I'd like to apply the
> >following patch to -current before it becomes 4.0.  If we wait, we'll
> >have compatibility problems.  Right now it is too easy to shoot
> >yourself in the foot with this.
> >
> >When this was hashed out here, the idea was met with wide spread
> >support, even fiven the advanced nature of the freeze.  I take that
> >support to mean that this is something that would be a good idea to do
> >for 4.0.
> >
> >Comments?
> >
> >Warner
> >
> >Index: fdisk.8
> >===================================================================
> >RCS file: /home/imp/FreeBSD/CVS/src/sbin/i386/fdisk/fdisk.8,v
> >retrieving revision 1.16
> >diff -u -r1.16 fdisk.8
> >--- fdisk.8	1999/08/28 00:13:01	1.16
> >+++ fdisk.8	2000/03/02 20:29:12
> >@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@
> > .Nd PC partition table maintenance program
> > .Sh SYNOPSIS
> > .Nm fdisk
> >-.Op Fl Baeitu
> >+.Op Fl BIaitu
> > .Op Fl b Ar bootcode
> > .Op Fl 1234
> > .Op Ar disk
> >@@ -62,7 +62,7 @@
> > if
> > .Fl f
> > is given.
> >-.It Fl e
> >+.It Fl I
> > Initialize the contents of sector 0 with one FreeBSD slice covering the ent
ire disk.
> > .It Fl f Ar configfile
> > Set partition values using the file
> >Index: fdisk.c
> >===================================================================
> >RCS file: /home/imp/FreeBSD/CVS/src/sbin/i386/fdisk/fdisk.c,v
> >retrieving revision 1.34
> >diff -u -r1.34 fdisk.c
> >--- fdisk.c	2000/02/11 11:25:23	1.34
> >+++ fdisk.c	2000/03/02 20:31:56
> >@@ -120,7 +120,7 @@
> > static int B_flag  = 0;		/* replace boot code */
> > static int a_flag  = 0;		/* set active partition */
> > static char *b_flag = NULL;	/* path to boot code */
> >-static int e_flag  = 0;		/* use entire disk for FreeBSD */
> >+static int I_flag  = 0;		/* use entire disk for FreeBSD */
> > static int i_flag  = 0;		/* replace partition data */
> > static int u_flag  = 0;		/* update partition data */
> > static int t_flag  = 0;		/* test only, if f_flag is given */
> >@@ -216,7 +216,7 @@
> > {
> > 	int	c, i;
> > 
> >-	while ((c = getopt(argc, argv, "Bab:ef:ituv1234")) != -1)
> >+	while ((c = getopt(argc, argv, "BIab:f:ituv1234")) != -1)
> > 		switch (c) {
> > 		case 'B':
> > 			B_flag = 1;
> >@@ -227,8 +227,8 @@
> > 		case 'b':
> > 			b_flag = optarg;
> > 			break;
> >-		case 'e':
> >-			e_flag = 1;
> >+		case 'I':
> >+			I_flag = 1;
> > 			break;
> > 		case 'f':
> > 			f_flag = optarg;
> >@@ -292,7 +292,7 @@
> > 
> > 	printf("******* Working on device %s *******\n",disk);
> > 
> >-	if (e_flag)
> >+	if (I_flag)
> > 	{
> > 		struct dos_partition *partp;
> > 
> >@@ -648,7 +648,7 @@
> > 	if ( !(st.st_mode & S_IFCHR) )
> > 		warnx("device %s is not character special", disk);
> > 	if ((fd = open(disk,
> >-	    a_flag || e_flag || B_flag || u_flag ? O_RDWR : O_RDONLY)) == -1) {
> >+	    a_flag || I_flag || B_flag || u_flag ? O_RDWR : O_RDONLY)) == -1) {
> > 		if(errno == ENXIO)
> > 			return -2;
> > 		warnx("can't open device %s", disk);
> >
> 
> --
> Poul-Henning Kamp             FreeBSD coreteam member
> phk@FreeBSD.ORG               "Real hackers run -current on their laptop."
> FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far!
> 
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On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Leif Neland wrote:

> I'm trying to use MS-VPN using poptop. (pptpd)
> 
> It  works nicely from home to my current at home, but not to my stable at work.
> 

Followup: From work to current at home fails too:

> ppp.log says repeately:
> 
> Mar  9 06:25:35 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2]
> Mar  9 06:25:35 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2]
> Mar  9 06:25:35 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000
> Mar  9 06:25:35 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1500
> Mar  9 06:25:35 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x469c1c68
> Mar  9 06:25:35 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP)
> Mar  9 06:25:35 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Stopped --> Req-Sent
> Mar  9 06:25:38 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Req-Sent
> Mar  9 06:25:38 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2]
> Mar  9 06:25:38 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2]
> Mar  9 06:25:38 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000
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> Mar  9 06:25:38 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP)
> Mar  9 06:25:41 ns ppp[88344]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Req-Sent
> 
> The windows machine just says "Verifying username and password".
> 



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In article <13611.952595759@zippy.cdrom.com>,
Jordan K. Hubbard <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> wrote:
> > The other possibility would be to fix the wine port so it calls
> > dllockinit() to set up locking.  I don't know for sure how hard that
> > would be, but it's probably a feasible solution.
> 
> To be honest, I'd be the most comfortable with this solution

Me too, for 4.0.  Given Donn's reports of trouble with my patches,
I think the timing is just wrong to try and do anything major with
the dynamic linker between now and Monday.  It's too hard to test it.
All the troublesome ports are _huge_ (Mozilla, Wine, ...), and the
failures are timing-dependent and not so easy to reproduce.  Obviously
I'll strive to fix the remaining problems after 4.0 has been tagged.

As far as I know, Wine is the only port that has problems with the
version of the dynamic linker that's in -current at present.  I've
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On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, F. Heinrichmeyer wrote:

> I found no way to get kdm to work, it dumps core in a qt string find
> routine. wdm works kind of (the window manager menu is buggy but
> repairable).
three day cvsup - kdm works fine. konqueror - that is the problem. :(




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Hi:
I did an install of 4.0-RC3 last night and found the following:

1:    Unable to transfer the local distribution from
      ftp://current.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/Snapshots/i386

2:    Unable to transfer the X9set distribution from
      ftp://current.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/Snapshots/i386

3:    The Ports collection took about 85 MB, not about 70 MB

4:    The first option for configuring X in full screen graphic mode, which 
requires VGA16, did not work.  So I picked option #3, which seemed like the 
next best option because it too mentioned a full-screen configuration. (I 
skipped over option #2: the shell-based configuration because the 
description said that that was more difficult -- the description doesn't 
mention the pros or cons of option #3.)

       Bad move.  The next screen I saw was the next setup item (Ports).  I 
thought that I had lost the opportunity to setup X but later I returned to 
the "Main Menu" where I could choose to setup X.

5:    Something similar happened when I came to the account setup screen.  
Option #1 was to "Exit this menu (back to previous) but instead of going 
*back*, it seemed to go forward, bringing me to the screen to set password 
for root.

6:    After Install was complete and a reboot, X would not start, when I 
tried 'startx', I got:
/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: shared object "libXThrStub.so.6" not found


7:    I couldn't find PostgreSQL as a port (under 'database') during the 
install.  It's definitely *there* in the installed Ports collection, though. 
  Are other ports missing (it didn't seem like there were 3100+).  Are the 
number of ports for the install purposely limited?


QUESTIONS
1-Is #1 just a localization which is unnecessary for USA?
2-Are #2,#4, and #6 related?  Was X9set missing in the distro?
3-Is it possible to include more documentation during install or online?  I 
think there are several possible 'gotcha's' that may be avoided.  For 
examples see above, but also:

I had used FIPS to create a new partition before the install but had not 
deleted it.  In the Install program, the type of this partition was "6" and 
the description was "FAT."  The install program allowed me to change the 
type to ??? (the FreeBSD type) and the description now said "FreeBSD."  But 
I hesitated to continue because the description explictly said that "unused" 
was to be changed to "FreeBSD."  I exited the install, went back to Win95, 
fired up DOSCMD and used fdisk to delete the partition.  Would the install 
have worked if I hadn't deleted the partition? or would it have damaged 
something?

4-How can I get 'startx' to work now?


John
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> Hi:
> I did an install of 4.0-RC3 last night and found the following:
> 
> 1:    Unable to transfer the local distribution from
>       ftp://current.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/Snapshots/i386

Because it's not there.  I listed the URLs I listed *very
specifically* and that is the ONLY location you can get this from.
Just ignore current.freebsd.org for the purposes of these release
candidates please.

- Jordan


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Hi:
I should have added that I installed Gnome and Afterstep and later (before 
end of install), I also got IceWM from Ports.  Is X confused about which WM 
to use?

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Hi:
I got the install floppies from the ftp directory that you listed.  When the 
install came to a point where it asked for the ftp site to get the 
distribution, it listed a "primary" site (ftp.freebsd.org, I believe) and 
several other mirror sites, one of which was the current snapshot site.  The 
message on this screen said that only the primary site was guaranteed to 
have all releases, so I tried that.  The install program returned 
immediately saying that it couldn't find the files.  So I tried the snapshot 
site, and it worked.  I believe that I may have even seen a March 8th date 
at somepoint also.

In any case, I completely understand that special proceedures would be 
warranted for Release Candidates, resulting in a mismatch with the message 
on the "pick an ftp transfer site" screen -- and an erroneous assumption on 
my part that the snapshot site was the next best thing.  My only desire 
right now is to get this right. So, I am now wondering:

1- What did I miss in not getting the "local distribution?" (I searched 
freebsd.org to no avail) and what else might I have missed?
2- Is there any easy and/or correct way to recover (/stand/sysinstall?, 
CVSup?), or should I just reinstall?

John

>From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>
>To: "John Daniels" <jmd526@hotmail.com>
>CC: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
>Subject: Re: FBSD4.0-RC3 install
>Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 09:01:37 -0800
>
> > Hi:
> > I did an install of 4.0-RC3 last night and found the following:
> >
> > 1:    Unable to transfer the local distribution from
> >       ftp://current.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/Snapshots/i386
>
>Because it's not there.  I listed the URLs I listed *very
>specifically* and that is the ONLY location you can get this from.
>Just ignore current.freebsd.org for the purposes of these release
>candidates please.
>
>- Jordan

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Hi,

I have been trying to install yesterday's 4.0 snap on a no-name brand
motherboard with the VIA chipset, but I'm running in some problems. I
suspect there is a problem with the DMA. The error I'm getting when the
disk is newfs'ed is a repeating:

ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting
ata0: resetting devices .. done
ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting
ata0: resetting devices .. done
...

It seems that it is just going on and on. Shouldn't it back down to non
DMA mode after a while? Is there a way to disable the DMA on the install
floppies?

Part of the probe looks like this: (written down by hand)

atapci0: <VIA 82C586 ATA33 controller> port 0xe000 - 0xe00f at device 7.1 on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
...
ad0: 6204MB <ST36531A> [13446/15/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33

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At 09:01 PM 3/9/00 +0200, John Hay wrote:
>atapci0: <VIA 82C586 ATA33 controller> port 0xe000 - 0xe00f at device 7.1
on pci0
>ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
>...
>ad0: 6204MB <ST36531A> [13446/15/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33


Actually, I just noticed the same thing today.  Should not having

#options        ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA 
commented out

negated the UDMA ?

atapci0: <Intel PIIX4 ATA33 controller> port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on
pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
 ad0: 4104MB <WDC AC34300L> [8896/15/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33

Or is the "using UDMA33" somewhat misleading ?

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It seems John Hay wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have been trying to install yesterday's 4.0 snap on a no-name brand
> motherboard with the VIA chipset, but I'm running in some problems. I
> suspect there is a problem with the DMA. The error I'm getting when the
> disk is newfs'ed is a repeating:
> 
> ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting
> ata0: resetting devices .. done
> ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting
> ata0: resetting devices .. done
> ...
> 
> It seems that it is just going on and on. Shouldn't it back down to non
> DMA mode after a while? Is there a way to disable the DMA on the install
> floppies?

It should back down after 3 retries... But is is 3 retries pr request,
so say it gets through on the 2 retry each time this will continue..
I dont know if there is access to the sysctl knobs from the emergency
shell, but that would be a solution...

> Part of the probe looks like this: (written down by hand)
> 
> atapci0: <VIA 82C586 ATA33 controller> port 0xe000 - 0xe00f at device 7.1 on pci0
> ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
> ...
> ad0: 6204MB <ST36531A> [13446/15/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33

Hmm, wierd, did this hardware run FreeBSD before ??

-Søren


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| ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting
| ata0: resetting devices .. done
| ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting
| ata0: resetting devices .. done
| ...
| 
| It seems that it is just going on and on. Shouldn't it back down to non
| DMA mode after a while? Is there a way to disable the DMA on the install
| floppies?

How many times did it retry? It looks like everything is in place to default
to PIO mode in this case, but you have allow it to try 3 times before it
fallbacks to PIO.

>From ata-disk.c log:

revision 1.59
date: 2000/03/05 16:52:23;  author: sos;  state: Exp;  lines: +24 -24
[...]
Update the timeout code to try fallback to PIO if problems
arise in DMA mode.
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On  9/03, Soren Schmidt wrote:

| Hmm, wierd, did this hardware run FreeBSD before ??

This looks exactly like the problem I was having with my Compaq laptop, which
could run 3.4 boot disks just fine but not 4.0 kernels. I was probably too
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On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Samuel Tardieu wrote:

> This looks exactly like the problem I was having with my Compaq laptop, which
> could run 3.4 boot disks just fine but not 4.0 kernels. I was probably too
> lazy to wait until it reaches the 3 attempts, so I will try again :)
> 

  What model laptop may I ask? I'm running 4.0-current since 1/11/2000
(last world rebuild 3/8/2000) on a Compaq Armada 7400 without incident.

  Kelly

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> I got the install floppies from the ftp directory that you listed.  When the 
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This should work now - it just needed some symlinks to be created.

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> > 
> > I have been trying to install yesterday's 4.0 snap on a no-name brand
> > motherboard with the VIA chipset, but I'm running in some problems. I
> > suspect there is a problem with the DMA. The error I'm getting when the
> > disk is newfs'ed is a repeating:
> > 
> > ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting
> > ata0: resetting devices .. done
> > ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting
> > ata0: resetting devices .. done
> > ...
> > 
> > It seems that it is just going on and on. Shouldn't it back down to non
> > DMA mode after a while? Is there a way to disable the DMA on the install
> > floppies?
> 
> It should back down after 3 retries... But is is 3 retries pr request,
> so say it gets through on the 2 retry each time this will continue..
> I dont know if there is access to the sysctl knobs from the emergency
> shell, but that would be a solution...

Well it is been doing fsck for more than an hour now. :-) This is
before the emergency shell is opened, but if I remember correctly,
sysctl is not part of tools available.

> 
> > Part of the probe looks like this: (written down by hand)
> > 
> > atapci0: <VIA 82C586 ATA33 controller> port 0xe000 - 0xe00f at device 7.1 on pci0
> > ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
> > ...
> > ad0: 6204MB <ST36531A> [13446/15/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33
> 
> Hmm, wierd, did this hardware run FreeBSD before ??

A similar system did run FreeBSD-3.4, but I never enabled DMA on it. I'll
try to install 3.4 on this one and see.

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|   What model laptop may I ask? I'm running 4.0-current since 1/11/2000
| (last world rebuild 3/8/2000) on a Compaq Armada 7400 without incident.

Armada V300. I sent the full details here a few days ago.



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Is anyone else seeing this.  cvsupped from 12:00 noon EST

...

cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../../../..
/contrib/cvs/src -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../../../../contrib/cvs/lib -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../../../../contrib/cvs/diff -DHA
VE_KERBEROS -DHAVE_KRB_GET_ERR_TEXT -DENCRYPTION   -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include  -o cvs add.o admin.o buffer.o checkin.o checkout.o c
lassify.o client.o commit.o create_adm.o cvsrc.o diff.o edit.o entries.o error.o expand_path.o fileattr.o filesubr.o find_names.o hardlink.o
 hash.o history.o ignore.o import.o lock.o log.o login.o logmsg.o main.o mkmodules.o modules.o myndbm.o no_diff.o parseinfo.o patch.o prepen
 d_args.o rcs.o rcscmds.o recurse.o release.o remove.o repos.o root.o rtag.o run.o scramble.o server.o status.o subr.o tag.o update.o vers_ts
 .o version.o watch.o wrapper.o zlib.o  /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../lib/libcvs.a /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../libdiff/
 libdiff.a -lgnuregex -lmd -lcrypt -lz -lkrb -lcrypto -lcom_err
 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so.1: undefined reference to `R_RandomUpdate'
 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so.1: undefined reference to `R_GetRandomBytesNeeded'
 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so.1: undefined reference to `RSAPrivateDecrypt'
 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so.1: undefined reference to `RSAPublicEncrypt'
 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so.1: undefined reference to `R_RandomFinal'
 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so.1: undefined reference to `RSAPrivateEncrypt'
 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so.1: undefined reference to `R_RandomInit'
 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so.1: undefined reference to `RSAPublicDecrypt'
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/src/gnu.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/src.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/src.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/src.


#;^)
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I'm having the same problem.  To overstate the obvious, it's related to 
compiling with MAKE_KERBEROS4=yes which require the des code in libcrypto.  
Anyone know how libRSAglue is getting pulled in?

-Ben Greenwald

> Is anyone else seeing this.  cvsupped from 12:00 noon EST
> 
> ...
> 
> cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../
lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../../../..
> /contrib/cvs/src -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../../../../contrib/cvs/lib -
I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../../../../contrib/cvs/diff -DHA
> VE_KERBEROS -DHAVE_KRB_GET_ERR_TEXT -DENCRYPTION   -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/us
r/include  -o cvs add.o admin.o buffer.o checkin.o checkout.o c
> lassify.o client.o commit.o create_adm.o cvsrc.o diff.o edit.o entries.o erro
r.o expand_path.o fileattr.o filesubr.o find_names.o hardlink.o
>  hash.o history.o ignore.o import.o lock.o log.o login.o logmsg.o main.o mkmo
dules.o modules.o myndbm.o no_diff.o parseinfo.o patch.o prepen
>  d_args.o rcs.o rcscmds.o recurse.o release.o remove.o repos.o root.o rtag.o 
run.o scramble.o server.o status.o subr.o tag.o update.o vers_ts
>  .o version.o watch.o wrapper.o zlib.o  /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/
../lib/libcvs.a /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../libdiff/
>  libdiff.a -lgnuregex -lmd -lcrypt -lz -lkrb -lcrypto -lcom_err
>  /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so.1: undefined reference to `R_RandomUpdate'
>  /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so.1: undefined reference to `R_GetRandomBytesNeeded'
>  /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so.1: undefined reference to `RSAPrivateDecrypt'
>  /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so.1: undefined reference to `RSAPublicEncrypt'
>  /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so.1: undefined reference to `R_RandomFinal'
>  /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so.1: undefined reference to `RSAPrivateEncrypt'
>  /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so.1: undefined reference to `R_RandomInit'
>  /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so.1: undefined reference to `RSAPublicDecrypt'
>  *** Error code 1
> 
>  Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs.
>  *** Error code 1
> 
>  Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs.
>  *** Error code 1
> 
>  Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin.
>  *** Error code 1
> 
>  Stop in /usr/src/gnu.
>  *** Error code 1
> 
>  Stop in /usr/src.
>  *** Error code 1
> 
>  Stop in /usr/src.
>  *** Error code 1
> 
>  Stop in /usr/src.
> 
> 
> #;^)
> -- 
> f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n cmptr prgrmmng.

> bush doctor
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On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Samuel Tardieu wrote:

> |   What model laptop may I ask? I'm running 4.0-current since 1/11/2000
> | (last world rebuild 3/8/2000) on a Compaq Armada 7400 without incident.
> 
> Armada V300. I sent the full details here a few days ago.
> 

  Ah, I remember seeing that. As I recall the systems were fairly similar
with regards to the IDE configuration. We have the IDE controllers, same
size/geometry hard drives (although I think mine is identified as IBM and
yours WD...but I've read elsewhere they are in fact the same drive). The
only other difference I recall was that your laptop has a different CD-ROM
drive. But I'm trying to work off memory here; I can verify the similarity
when I get home (where the laptop is).

  Kelly

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From owner-freebsd-current  Thu Mar  9 12:51:30 2000
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From: Kris Kennaway <kris@hub.freebsd.org>
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On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Bush Doctor wrote:

> Is anyone else seeing this.  cvsupped from 12:00 noon EST
> 
> ...
> 
> cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../../../..
> /contrib/cvs/src -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../../../../contrib/cvs/lib -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../../../../contrib/cvs/diff -DHA
> VE_KERBEROS -DHAVE_KRB_GET_ERR_TEXT -DENCRYPTION   -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include  -o cvs add.o admin.o buffer.o checkin.o checkout.o c
> lassify.o client.o commit.o create_adm.o cvsrc.o diff.o edit.o entries.o error.o expand_path.o fileattr.o filesubr.o find_names.o hardlink.o
>  hash.o history.o ignore.o import.o lock.o log.o login.o logmsg.o main.o mkmodules.o modules.o myndbm.o no_diff.o parseinfo.o patch.o prepen
>  d_args.o rcs.o rcscmds.o recurse.o release.o remove.o repos.o root.o rtag.o run.o scramble.o server.o status.o subr.o tag.o update.o vers_ts
>  .o version.o watch.o wrapper.o zlib.o  /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../lib/libcvs.a /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../libdiff/
>  libdiff.a -lgnuregex -lmd -lcrypt -lz -lkrb -lcrypto -lcom_err
>  /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so.1: undefined reference to `R_RandomUpdate'

Did this come up as part of make world? It looks like you have a stale
library.

Kris

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On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Benjamin Greenwald wrote:

> I'm having the same problem.  To overstate the obvious, it's related to 
> compiling with MAKE_KERBEROS4=yes which require the des code in libcrypto.  
> Anyone know how libRSAglue is getting pulled in?

It shouldn't be..libRSAglue is an empty stub thesedays containing no
symbols. Unless I've missed something nothing should even be looking for
it, especially during make world, and especially not outside of the obj
tree.
 
Kris

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From owner-freebsd-current  Thu Mar  9 12:57:57 2000
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Ran into an odd problem tring to install the 3/7 release of 4.0
onto my VAIO PCG-Z505HS.  The install hung while probing for plug
and play devices.  I had the BIOS set to non plug and play OS.
So just for grins I turned plug and play OS on in the bios and
tried again.  Installed without a hitch.  Of course I had to
then go back into the BIOS and turn off plug and play OS to get 
by USB devices working after the install. (-:  

Any thoughts?

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From owner-freebsd-current  Thu Mar  9 13:41: 5 2000
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It was during a buildworld.  I'm going to do a make world with MAKE_KERBEROS4=NO, and then do a buildworld after the reboot and see if it was somehow pulling the library from outside of /obj.

-Ben

> On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Benjamin Greenwald wrote:
> 
> > I'm having the same problem.  To overstate the obvious, it's related to 
> > compiling with MAKE_KERBEROS4=yes which require the des code in libcrypto. 
 
> > Anyone know how libRSAglue is getting pulled in?
> 
> It shouldn't be..libRSAglue is an empty stub thesedays containing no
> symbols. Unless I've missed something nothing should even be looking for
> it, especially during make world, and especially not outside of the obj
> tree.
>  
> Kris
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Hi,

I've been having a recurring problem with samba on my freebsd
machines.  It began when I was running 3.2, and it appears to still be
around with -stable.  (and samba 2.0.3, and now 2.0.6)

Basically, when copying large files, the FreeBSD file server appears
to lose all of its network connectivity.  It cannot be pinged, etc.
You also cannot log in as root because it hangs after you type in
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not use NIS or some such thing will continue to work. 

Has anyone heard of such problems?   Any ideas?  

Thanks.
Soren



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I was thinking about -current something and wrote current.  Please
disregard my message.

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Hi folks,

I just tried to boot the RC3 install floppies on my Pentium 66 testbox.
It gets through the config stage without trouble, but then panics
immediately with:

...
pcib0: <Host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
atapci0: <RZ 100? ATA controller !WARNING! buggy chip data loss
possible> port 0
x3f4-0x3f7,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 1.0 on pci0
atapci0: Busmastering DMA not supported
panic: resource_list_alloc: resource entry is busy

I am also having this problem with 4.0-CURRENT kernels since February
18, both with my own custom kernel config and GENERIC.
I have to revert to the ata driver of February 17 or earlier to get the
system booting again, and then it runs perfectly.

This machine has an Intel motherboard with a Mercury chipset, 64 Mbyte
RAM, Matrox Millenium II, two Western Digital disks, and it ran all
previous FreeBSD releases perfectly for almost five years.

Anybody else having this problem ?
And before I start digging, any idea where to look for a solution, if it
makes sense at all ?

Kind regards,

Hans


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In message <200003092103.QAA60502@gta.com> Larry Baird writes:
: then go back into the BIOS and turn off plug and play OS to get 
: by USB devices working after the install. (-:  
: 
: Any thoughts?

You should have turned off PNP OS in the BIOS to start with.  That's
the only setting that is supported.

Warner


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To: Kris Kennaway <kris@hub.freebsd.org>
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Out of da blue Kris Kennaway aka (kris@hub.freebsd.org) said:
> On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Bush Doctor wrote:
> 
> > Is anyone else seeing this.  cvsupped from 12:00 noon EST
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> > cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../../../..
> > /contrib/cvs/src -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../../../../contrib/cvs/lib -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../../../../contrib/cvs/diff -DHA
> > VE_KERBEROS -DHAVE_KRB_GET_ERR_TEXT -DENCRYPTION   -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include  -o cvs add.o admin.o buffer.o checkin.o checkout.o c
> > lassify.o client.o commit.o create_adm.o cvsrc.o diff.o edit.o entries.o error.o expand_path.o fileattr.o filesubr.o find_names.o hardlink.o
> >  hash.o history.o ignore.o import.o lock.o log.o login.o logmsg.o main.o mkmodules.o modules.o myndbm.o no_diff.o parseinfo.o patch.o prepen
> >  d_args.o rcs.o rcscmds.o recurse.o release.o remove.o repos.o root.o rtag.o run.o scramble.o server.o status.o subr.o tag.o update.o vers_ts
> >  .o version.o watch.o wrapper.o zlib.o  /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../lib/libcvs.a /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../libdiff/
> >  libdiff.a -lgnuregex -lmd -lcrypt -lz -lkrb -lcrypto -lcom_err
> >  /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so.1: undefined reference to `R_RandomUpdate'
> 
> Did this come up as part of make world? It looks like you have a stale
> library.
It's occurring during a buildworld.  If you're referring to libRSAglue
being stale it looks like that may be it.

bantu.cl.msu.edu:dervish> ls -l /usr/lib/libR*
-r--r--r--   1 root     wheel         810 Feb 28 22:28 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.a
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root     wheel          15 Jan 29 07:29 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so -> libRSAglue.so.1
-r--r--r--   1 root     wheel        5872 Jan 29 07:29 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so.1
-r--r--r--   1 root     wheel         868 Feb 28 22:28 /usr/lib/libRSAglue_p.a


> 
> Kris
> 
> ----
> In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate.
>     -- Charles Forsythe <forsythe@alum.mit.edu>
> 

#;^)
-- 
f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n cmptr prgrmmng.

bush doctor
<dervish@goku.cl.msu.edu>


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I am not seeing the problem with a standard build, but I am not building
Kerberos.  Looking at the makefiles, there is no mentioned of libRSAglue
anyplace.  The link command doesn't even imply the use of libRSAglue. 
Also, a buildworld should not be using libraries outside of the build
environment.

Don't bother building with MAKE_KERBEROS4=NO.  All of the tests look at
the variable being defined and not its value.  You might try removing
your object directory and doing a make cleandir twice to make sure
nothing is left in source tree that shouldn't be there.

Jim Bloom
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Bush Doctor wrote:
> 
> Out of da blue Kris Kennaway aka (kris@hub.freebsd.org) said:
> > On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Bush Doctor wrote:
> >
> > > Is anyone else seeing this.  cvsupped from 12:00 noon EST
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > > cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../../../..
> > > /contrib/cvs/src -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../../../../contrib/cvs/lib -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../../../../contrib/cvs/diff -DHA
> > > VE_KERBEROS -DHAVE_KRB_GET_ERR_TEXT -DENCRYPTION   -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include  -o cvs add.o admin.o buffer.o checkin.o checkout.o c
> > > lassify.o client.o commit.o create_adm.o cvsrc.o diff.o edit.o entries.o error.o expand_path.o fileattr.o filesubr.o find_names.o hardlink.o
> > >  hash.o history.o ignore.o import.o lock.o log.o login.o logmsg.o main.o mkmodules.o modules.o myndbm.o no_diff.o parseinfo.o patch.o prepen
> > >  d_args.o rcs.o rcscmds.o recurse.o release.o remove.o repos.o root.o rtag.o run.o scramble.o server.o status.o subr.o tag.o update.o vers_ts
> > >  .o version.o watch.o wrapper.o zlib.o  /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../lib/libcvs.a /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../libdiff/
> > >  libdiff.a -lgnuregex -lmd -lcrypt -lz -lkrb -lcrypto -lcom_err
> > >  /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so.1: undefined reference to `R_RandomUpdate'
> >
> > Did this come up as part of make world? It looks like you have a stale
> > library.
> It's occurring during a buildworld.  If you're referring to libRSAglue
> being stale it looks like that may be it.
> 
> bantu.cl.msu.edu:dervish> ls -l /usr/lib/libR*
> -r--r--r--   1 root     wheel         810 Feb 28 22:28 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.a
> lrwxr-xr-x   1 root     wheel          15 Jan 29 07:29 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so -> libRSAglue.so.1
> -r--r--r--   1 root     wheel        5872 Jan 29 07:29 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so.1
> -r--r--r--   1 root     wheel         868 Feb 28 22:28 /usr/lib/libRSAglue_p.a


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From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>
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> This should work now - it just needed some symlinks to be created.
>
The link to the packages directory is wrong.  It is pointing one to many
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packages -> ../../../../ports/i386/packages-4-current

it should be:

packages -> ../../../ports/i386/packages-4-current

I also noticed one very small error on the screen for setting up the mouse.
It says to choose option 4 to disable the mouse, it should be option 5.

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ok, this was partly caused by dodgy hardware it seems, so don't worry
too much, but it would be nice if a panic could be avoided.

first, dmesg:

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FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #12: Sun Mar  5 23:40:38 GMT 2000
    ben@platinum.scientia.demon.co.uk:/usr/src/sys/compile/PLATINUM
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 400909968 Hz
CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (400.91-MHz 586-class CPU)
  Origin = "AuthenticAMD"  Id = 0x58c  Stepping = 12
  Features=0x8021bf<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,PGE,MMX>
  AMD Features=0x80000800<SYSCALL,3DNow!>
real memory  = 67043328 (65472K bytes)
avail memory = 62517248 (61052K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0273000.
npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcib0: <AcerLabs M1541 (Aladdin-V) PCI host bridge> on motherboard
pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
pcib1: <AcerLabs M5243 PCI-PCI bridge> at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib1
pci1: <ATI Mach64-GB graphics accelerator> at 0.0 irq 11
isab0: <AcerLabs M1533 portable PCI-ISA bridge> at device 7.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
rl0: <RealTek 8139 10/100BaseTX> port 0xe000-0xe0ff mem 0xe8001000-0xe80010ff irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci0
rl0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:7d:74:66:7c
miibus0: <MII bus> on rl0
rlphy0: <RealTek internal media interface> on miibus0
rlphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
rl0: supplying EUI64: 00:e0:7d:ff:fe:74:66:7c
atapci0: <AcerLabs Aladdin ATA33 controller> port 0xf000-0xf00f irq 0 at device 15.0 on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
atkbdc0: <keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60-0x6f on isa0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
psm0: <PS/2 Mouse> irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3
sc0: <System console> on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200>
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
ad0: 8063MB <QUANTUM FIREBALLlct08 08> [16383/16/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33
acd0: MODE_SENSE_BIG command timeout - resetting
ata1: resetting devices .. done
acd0: MODE_SENSE_BIG DONEDRQ
acd0: MODE_SENSE_BIG - ABORTED COMMAND asc=4e ascq=00 error=00
acd0: MODE_SENSE_BIG command timeout - resetting
ata1: resetting devices .. done
acd0: MODE_SENSE_BIG DONEDRQ
acd0: MODE_SENSE_BIG - ABORTED COMMAND asc=4e ascq=00 error=00
acd0: MODE_SENSE_BIG command timeout - resetting
ata1: resetting devices .. done
acd0: MODE_SENSE_BIG DONEDRQ
acd0: MODE_SENSE_BIG - ABORTED COMMAND asc=4e ascq=00 error=00
acd0: MODE_SENSE_BIG command timeout - resetting
ata1: resetting devices .. done
acd0: MODE_SENSE_BIG DONEDRQ
acd0: MODE_SENSE_BIG - ABORTED COMMAND asc=4e ascq=00 error=00
ata1-master: <MATSHITA CR-581/1.00> CDROM device - NO DRIVER!
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s4a
rl0: starting DAD for fe80:0001::02e0:7dff:fe74:667c
IP packet filtering initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, default to deny, logging disabled
rl0: DAD complete for fe80:0001::02e0:7dff:fe74:667c - no duplicates found
rl0: starting DAD for fec0:56c0:60a7:1045:02e0:7dff:fe74:667c
rl0: DAD complete for fec0:56c0:60a7:1045:02e0:7dff:fe74:667c - no duplicates found


Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
fault virtual address	= 0x2c
fault code		= supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer	= 0x8:0xc01bc0ad
stack pointer	        = 0x10:0xc6047d30
frame pointer	        = 0x10:0xc6047d3c
code segment		= base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
			= DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags	= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
current process		= 49742 (mount_cd9660)
interrupt mask		= none
trap number		= 12
panic: page fault

syncing disks... 12 
done
Uptime: 2m50s

dumping to dev #ad/0x50001, offset 278656
dump ata0: resetting devices .. done
63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 

dunno what's wrong with that drive, it worked fine after rebooting. As you
can see, the panic occured when trying to mount the CD-ROM. Here's the
backtrace:

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IdlePTD 2641920
initial pcb at 21c8a0
panicstr: page fault
panic messages:
---
Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
fault virtual address	= 0x2c
fault code		= supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer	= 0x8:0xc01bc0ad
stack pointer	        = 0x10:0xc6047d30
frame pointer	        = 0x10:0xc6047d3c
code segment		= base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
			= DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags	= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
current process		= 49742 (mount_cd9660)
interrupt mask		= none
trap number		= 12
panic: page fault

syncing disks... 12 
done
Uptime: 2m50s

dumping to dev #ad/0x50001, offset 278656
dump ata0: resetting devices .. done
63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 
---
#0  boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:304
304			dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3();
(kgdb) bt
#0  boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:304
#1  0xc012ddc8 in poweroff_wait (junk=0xc01ffccf, howto=-978243040) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:554
#2  0xc01dbcd9 in trap_fatal (frame=0xc6047cf0, eva=44) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:924
#3  0xc01db9b1 in trap_pfault (frame=0xc6047cf0, usermode=0, eva=44) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:817
#4  0xc01db57b in trap (frame={tf_fs = 16, tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = 1, tf_esi = -1065680896, 
      tf_ebp = -972784324, tf_isp = -972784356, tf_ebx = -1064931712, tf_edx = 0, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = 44, 
      tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1071923027, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66050, tf_esp = -1065678848, 
      tf_ss = -1065704960}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:423
#5  0xc01bc0ad in atapi_queue_cmd (atp=0xc07b0000, ccb=0xc6047d68 "\036", data=0x0, count=0, flags=0, timeout=30, 
    callback=0, unused=0x0, bp=0x0) at ../../dev/ata/atapi-all.c:178
#6  0xc01bfdd0 in acd_prevent_allow (cdp=0xc07b0800, lock=1) at ../../dev/ata/atapi-cd.c:1747
#7  0xc01bdbae in acdopen (dev=0xc07aa200, flags=1, fmt=8192, p=0xc5b13220) at ../../dev/ata/atapi-cd.c:481
#8  0xc015eef9 in spec_open (ap=0xc6047e10) at ../../miscfs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:191
#9  0xc015edf9 in spec_vnoperate (ap=0xc6047e10) at ../../miscfs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:117
#10 0xc01a4f51 in ufs_vnoperatespec (ap=0xc6047e10) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2301
#11 0xc015ba3f in vn_open (ndp=0xc6047edc, fmode=1, cmode=0) at vnode_if.h:189
#12 0xc0157a3d in open (p=0xc5b13220, uap=0xc6047f80) at ../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:994
#13 0xc01dbf0a in syscall (frame={tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 47, tf_edi = -1077936645, tf_esi = 2, 
      tf_ebp = -1077938168, tf_isp = -972783660, tf_ebx = -1077936832, tf_edx = -1077936635, tf_ecx = -1077936635, 
      tf_eax = 5, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 134525628, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 647, tf_esp = -1077939028, 
      tf_ss = 47}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1073
#14 0xc01d0e86 in Xint0x80_syscall ()
#15 0x80482b9 in ?? ()
#16 0x80480f9 in ?? ()
(kgdb) frame 5
#5  0xc01bc0ad in atapi_queue_cmd (atp=0xc07b0000, ccb=0xc6047d68 "\036", data=0x0, count=0, flags=0, timeout=30, 
    callback=0, unused=0x0, bp=0x0) at ../../dev/ata/atapi-all.c:178
178	    request->ccbsize = (ATP_PARAM->cmdsize) ? 16 : 12;
(kgdb) p request
$1 = (struct atapi_request *) 0x0

(this seems odd, a few lines before that dereferenced request without a
problem.)

(kgdb) p *atp
$2 = {controller = 0x0, unit = 0, driver = 0x10, devname = 0x18 <Address 0x18 out of bounds>, cmd = 32 ' ', 
  flags = 1024}

That doesn't look very useful either... I'm guessing the fix should be
fairly simple (check something != NULL and return ESOMETHING if it is),
unfortunately as the drive seems to be working again I won't be able to
test it. :-(

kernel config file:

## $Id: PLATINUM,v 1.10 2000/02/20 20:34:28 ben Exp $

machine		i386
cpu		I586_CPU
ident		PLATINUM
maxusers	16

options 	ATA_STATIC_ID
options 	COMPAT_43
options 	FFS
options 	FFS_ROOT
options 	INET
options 	INET6
options 	KTRACE
options 	P1003_1B
options 	SOFTUPDATES
options 	SYSVSHM
options 	UCONSOLE
options 	_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING

device		isa
device		atkbdc0	at isa? port IO_KBD
device		miibus
device		pci

device		ata
device		atadisk
device		atapicd

device		atkbd0	at atkbdc? irq 1
device		psm0	at atkbdc? irq 12

device		npx0	at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13
device		rl
device		sc0	at isa?
device		vga0	at isa?

pseudo-device	bpf	4
pseudo-device	loop
pseudo-device	ether
pseudo-device	pty
pseudo-device	splash

If you want more information, let me know.

-- 
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Hello!

Will the -current version of FreeBSD  run on a multi-CPU axp machine and
use all of  the CPUs? Would that  be a reliable box  (assuming the admin
sometimes knows  what he  is doing)?  Do I want  to make  a "production"
server out of an axp box at all in the near future? Thanks!

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I meant I was going to comment out MAKE_KERBEROS4, but thanks for the tip.

Speaking of which, this is precisely what I did.  I commented out 
MAKE_KERBEROS4, did a make world, uncommented MAKE_KERBEROS4, made the world 
again, and the second time everything was fine.

There's probably a faster way to do this but I can attest that the above works.

-Ben

> I am not seeing the problem with a standard build, but I am not building
> Kerberos.  Looking at the makefiles, there is no mentioned of libRSAglue
> anyplace.  The link command doesn't even imply the use of libRSAglue. 
> Also, a buildworld should not be using libraries outside of the build
> environment.
> 
> Don't bother building with MAKE_KERBEROS4=NO.  All of the tests look at
> the variable being defined and not its value.  You might try removing
> your object directory and doing a make cleandir twice to make sure
> nothing is left in source tree that shouldn't be there.
> 
> Jim Bloom
> bloom@acm.org
> 
> Bush Doctor wrote:
> > 
> > Out of da blue Kris Kennaway aka (kris@hub.freebsd.org) said:
> > > On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Bush Doctor wrote:
> > >
> > > > Is anyone else seeing this.  cvsupped from 12:00 noon EST
> > > >
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/c
vs/../lib -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../../../..
> > > > /contrib/cvs/src -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../../../../contrib/cvs
/lib -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../../../../contrib/cvs/diff -DHA
> > > > VE_KERBEROS -DHAVE_KRB_GET_ERR_TEXT -DENCRYPTION   -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i
386/usr/include  -o cvs add.o admin.o buffer.o checkin.o checkout.o c
> > > > lassify.o client.o commit.o create_adm.o cvsrc.o diff.o edit.o entries.
o error.o expand_path.o fileattr.o filesubr.o find_names.o hardlink.o
> > > >  hash.o history.o ignore.o import.o lock.o log.o login.o logmsg.o main.
o mkmodules.o modules.o myndbm.o no_diff.o parseinfo.o patch.o prepen
> > > >  d_args.o rcs.o rcscmds.o recurse.o release.o remove.o repos.o root.o r
tag.o run.o scramble.o server.o status.o subr.o tag.o update.o vers_ts
> > > >  .o version.o watch.o wrapper.o zlib.o  /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cv
s/cvs/../lib/libcvs.a /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../libdiff/
> > > >  libdiff.a -lgnuregex -lmd -lcrypt -lz -lkrb -lcrypto -lcom_err
> > > >  /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so.1: undefined reference to `R_RandomUpdate'
> > >
> > > Did this come up as part of make world? It looks like you have a stale
> > > library.
> > It's occurring during a buildworld.  If you're referring to libRSAglue
> > being stale it looks like that may be it.
> > 
> > bantu.cl.msu.edu:dervish> ls -l /usr/lib/libR*
> > -r--r--r--   1 root     wheel         810 Feb 28 22:28 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.
a
> > lrwxr-xr-x   1 root     wheel          15 Jan 29 07:29 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.
so -> libRSAglue.so.1
> > -r--r--r--   1 root     wheel        5872 Jan 29 07:29 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.
so.1
> > -r--r--r--   1 root     wheel         868 Feb 28 22:28 /usr/lib/libRSAglue_
p.a
> 
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This happens every time I run sysinstall, potentially dangerous
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With a -current system of March 2nd.

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On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Jim Bloom wrote:

> the variable being defined and not its value.  You might try removing
> your object directory and doing a make cleandir twice to make sure
> nothing is left in source tree that shouldn't be there.

Yes, thats a likely candidate. Can you try blowing away /usr/obj and see
if the problem persist?

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On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Warner Losh wrote:

> In message <200003092103.QAA60502@gta.com> Larry Baird writes:
> : then go back into the BIOS and turn off plug and play OS to get 
> : by USB devices working after the install. (-:  
> : 
> : Any thoughts?
> 
> You should have turned off PNP OS in the BIOS to start with.  That's
> the only setting that is supported.

Yes, but he said this caused the system to panic at boot. Thats why he
turned it off :)

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On 2000-Mar-10 12:06:18 +1100, Mikhail Teterin <mi@video-collage.com> wrote:
>Will the -current version of FreeBSD  run on a multi-CPU axp machine and
>use all of  the CPUs?

Not yet, but Real Soon Now.

> Would that  be a reliable box  (assuming the admin
>sometimes knows  what he  is doing)?

-current comes with all the usual `not for production use' caveats,
and (without any slur on Doug Rabson, who's doing the work), you'd
be very game taking FreeBSD's first cut at Alpha/SMP and putting it
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I did try blowing away /obj.  Didn't help.

-Ben

> On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Jim Bloom wrote:
> 
> > the variable being defined and not its value.  You might try removing
> > your object directory and doing a make cleandir twice to make sure
> > nothing is left in source tree that shouldn't be there.
> 
> Yes, thats a likely candidate. Can you try blowing away /usr/obj and see
> if the problem persist?
> 
> Kris
> 
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On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Benjamin Greenwald wrote:

> I did try blowing away /obj.  Didn't help.

Hmm. I'll try running a buildworld at home tonight with stale libRSAglue
libs in /usr/lib and see if I can reproduce this. I don't think it's
anything in the source tree which is causing the breakage directly -
although if it's picking up things outside /usr/obj during the course of
the buildworld that needs to be fixed.

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In article <200003091645.IAA40726@vashon.polstra.com> you write:
>In article <13611.952595759@zippy.cdrom.com>,
>Jordan K. Hubbard <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> wrote:
>> > The other possibility would be to fix the wine port so it calls
>> > dllockinit() to set up locking.  I don't know for sure how hard that
>> > would be, but it's probably a feasible solution.
>> 
>> To be honest, I'd be the most comfortable with this solution

>...
>As far as I know, Wine is the only port that has problems with the
>version of the dynamic linker that's in -current at present.  I've
>looked into adding the dllockinit() stuff to Wine, but could use
>some help from somebody who knows its internals better.

Hm you could ask over in comp.emulators.ms-windows.wine...

>  I found
>the threads primitives, etc., but am not so sure where to place the
>dllockinit() call.

 When does it need to be called, just when starting a new thread?
(i have looked at the wine source before but never at ld-elf.so...)
And would this be the same on -stable and 4.0?  Currently you
should be able to build a wine on a -stable box and it would still
run on 4.0 (well it wouldn't run _worse_ than on -stable), at least
thats the idea.

 Anyway if it should be called before a new thread becomes
runnable for the first the i think it could go in THREAD_Create
(in scheduler/thread.c), if it needs to be called from within
the new thread itself it looks like it should go in THREAD_Start
in the same source.

 HTH,
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Non-root users can use the pw command to get information from the
master.passwd file e.g.

ps showuser paul
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which shows the class, password expiry and account expiry. I'm not sure
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NOTE: Take everything I say here as general info.  I haven't used these thread
packages, but have used others in the past.

It should be called somewhere between the starting of the process and the
creation of the second thread.  There is no problem if there is only one thread.

THREAD Create would be fine as long as it sets a variable accessible to all
threads indicating dllockinit has been called.

Another possible location would be a routine that initialize the multithreading
for the process.  This routine may not exist in all thread packages though.

Jim Bloom
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Juergen Lock wrote:
> 
> In article <200003091645.IAA40726@vashon.polstra.com> you write:
> >In article <13611.952595759@zippy.cdrom.com>,
> >Jordan K. Hubbard <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> wrote:
> >> > The other possibility would be to fix the wine port so it calls
> >> > dllockinit() to set up locking.  I don't know for sure how hard that
> >> > would be, but it's probably a feasible solution.
> >>
> >> To be honest, I'd be the most comfortable with this solution
> 
> >...
> >As far as I know, Wine is the only port that has problems with the
> >version of the dynamic linker that's in -current at present.  I've
> >looked into adding the dllockinit() stuff to Wine, but could use
> >some help from somebody who knows its internals better.
> 
> Hm you could ask over in comp.emulators.ms-windows.wine...
> 
> >  I found
> >the threads primitives, etc., but am not so sure where to place the
> >dllockinit() call.
> 
>  When does it need to be called, just when starting a new thread?
> (i have looked at the wine source before but never at ld-elf.so...)
> And would this be the same on -stable and 4.0?  Currently you
> should be able to build a wine on a -stable box and it would still
> run on 4.0 (well it wouldn't run _worse_ than on -stable), at least
> thats the idea.
> 
>  Anyway if it should be called before a new thread becomes
> runnable for the first the i think it could go in THREAD_Create
> (in scheduler/thread.c), if it needs to be called from within
> the new thread itself it looks like it should go in THREAD_Start
> in the same source.
> 
>  HTH,
> --
> Juergen Lock <nox.foo@jelal.kn-bremen.de>
> (remove dot foo from address to reply)
> 
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On Thu, 09 Mar 2000, in a never-ending search for enlightenment, Edwin Kremer wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 08, 1999 at 09:44:26PM -0600, Ishmael wrote:
> 
>   : Your system is too old to use this bsd.port.mk.
> 
> According to the mail headers, your system clock is about one year
> behind actual time. That might have screwed up the `make'...
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> -- 
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> Dept. of Computer Science,  Utrecht University, The Netherlands  [WHOIS: ehk3]
> -------------------- http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/edwin/ -----------------------
> 
Ya think?
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Hi,

Just wondering if there are plans in the works to get Xfree86 4.0 into
FreeBSD 4.0. I just noticed that X 4.0 has finally been released.
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Out of da blue Kris Kennaway aka (kris@hub.freebsd.org) said:
> On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Benjamin Greenwald wrote:
> 
> > I did try blowing away /obj.  Didn't help.
> 
> Hmm. I'll try running a buildworld at home tonight with stale libRSAglue
> libs in /usr/lib and see if I can reproduce this. I don't think it's
> anything in the source tree which is causing the breakage directly -
> although if it's picking up things outside /usr/obj during the course of
> the buildworld that needs to be fixed.
Not that it directly relates to the problem, I wound up doing the following
to get 'make buildworld' to work:

1. rm -rf ../obj/* && make clean && make cleandepend && make cleandir && make clean && make update
2. cd secure;make obj;make depend && make all install
3. rm -rf ../obj/* && make clean && make cleandepend && make cleandir && make cleandir && make clean 

Again my libRSAglue libraries before the above were:
bantu.cl.msu.edu:dervish> ls -l /usr/lib/libR*
-r--r--r--   1 root     wheel         810 Feb 28 22:28 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.a
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root     wheel          15 Jan 29 07:29 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so -> libRSAglue.so.1
-r--r--r--   1 root     wheel        5872 Jan 29 07:29 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so.1
-r--r--r--   1 root     wheel         868 Feb 28 22:28 /usr/lib/libRSAglue_p.a

and after:
bantu.cl.msu.edu:dervish> ls -l /usr/lib/libR*
-r--r--r--   1 root     wheel         810 Mar  9 18:02 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.a
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root     wheel          15 Mar  9 18:02 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so -> libRSAglue.so.1
-r--r--r--   1 root     wheel        1616 Mar  9 18:02 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so.1
-r--r--r--   1 root     wheel         868 Mar  9 18:02 /usr/lib/libRSAglue_p.a

Unfortunately I blew away the old libraries, but would like to know what happens with your test ...

> 
> Kris
> 
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Hello,
I was getting the same error, I have two HD's on a Addladin TXpro Chipset
and two CD-ROM drives.

I get ad1: READ command timeout -resetting
      ata0: resetting devices .. done
      ata0-slave: WARNING: WAIT_READY active=ATA_ACTIVE_ATA

BUT I have no ATA hard drives.

Another thing I noticed with the install, is when it is probing for
devices, it was trying to find PC_card0: 
but I had disable PC Card support in the kernel config (the install
conflict screen for the install floppies)

Anyways, other then that, things are going ok with my 4.0 RC3 install.


Cheers
Shaun

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, John Hay wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have been trying to install yesterday's 4.0 snap on a no-name brand
> motherboard with the VIA chipset, but I'm running in some problems. I
> suspect there is a problem with the DMA. The error I'm getting when the
> disk is newfs'ed is a repeating:
> 
> ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting
> ata0: resetting devices .. done
> ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting
> ata0: resetting devices .. done
> ...
> 
> It seems that it is just going on and on. Shouldn't it back down to non
> DMA mode after a while? Is there a way to disable the DMA on the install
> floppies?
> 
> Part of the probe looks like this: (written down by hand)
> 
> atapci0: <VIA 82C586 ATA33 controller> port 0xe000 - 0xe00f at device 7.1 on pci0
> ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
> ...
> ad0: 6204MB <ST36531A> [13446/15/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33
> 
> John
> -- 
> John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za
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At 17:16 09.03.2000 -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:

> > the variable being defined and not its value.  You might try removing
> > your object directory and doing a make cleandir twice to make sure
> > nothing is left in source tree that shouldn't be there.
>
>Yes, thats a likely candidate. Can you try blowing away /usr/obj and see
>if the problem persist?

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OK, finally had a chance to frag the hard drive and install 4.0-RC3 from cdrom
and see how it went. Here's my observations on the good:

 1) On the same hardware as I tested 4.0-RC and 4.0-RC2 on, now I no longer get
    those "long ATA probes"! This is awesome! Whatever was done, is great, now
    the machine boots very speedily.

 2) The "Standard Installation" is much better than "Novice". It was good to
    rename this.

 3) I chose the "A" option for partition/label and good, reasonable defaults
    were given to me.

 4) The "Standard Install" went flawlessly (despite my best attempts at pilot
    error :).

Now observations on a few nit-picky things:

 1) There is a typo (spelling error) in one of the dialogs I was presented. I
    was trying to force pilot error into the situation :) and got a dialog that
    contained the following line:

      "You can also chose "No" at the next prompt and go back into the
      installation menus to try and retry whichever operations failed."

    The word "chose" should be "choose." I'd supply a patch, but I only
    installed kernel source :(

 2) Again, while trying to inject pilot error, I created a FreeBSD partition of
    only 10Mb and gave that as the only slice the Label editor could deal
    with. When I hit 'A' to have it auto-decide, it came back with a dialog
    box:

      "Unable to create root partition. Too big?"

    I assume by what I gave to it, that it means to say "dummy, you didn't give
    me a big enough slice with which to work, try again." If that is the case,
    perhaps a small re-write of the dialog message is in order to help explain
    what has gone on and a possible course of action to correct the
    problem--like "give me a larger slice to work with here". In all honesty, I
    *meant* to create a 10Gb partition and typed so fast that my brain didn't
    snap that "10M" != "10G" ... and thus I presented a wierd situation to the
    Label editor.

The system is fast, GNOME+E. desktop is usable, kernel config went like a
charm. Looks *real* good from where I'm sittin'. Good work to all! Let's ship
this puppy. :)

-Jr

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On 10-Mar-2000 Paul Richards wrote:
  | Non-root users can use the pw command to get information from the
  | master.passwd file e.g.
  | 
  | ps showuser paul
  | paul:*:1000:1000::0:0:& Richards:/home/paul:/usr/local/bin/bash
  | 
  | which shows the class, password expiry and account expiry. I'm not sure
  | whether that's information that should be kept secure but it does seem
  | like 'pw' is the only command that makes it available. The 'chsh'
  | command doesn't show this information except when run as root for
  | instance.
  | 

pw(8) uses getpwuid(3) to retrieve a password entry from the world readable
/etc/pwd.db. It doesn't open master.passwd, (well at least when run as a
non-superuser).

IMO, that information is not something that needs to be secured.

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Hello,

You are using RC3 ?  Hmm...I wonder why you are not getting the ATA prob
problems like alot of us are.  What is your system config?  

Yes it is FAST! and I love it....I see that the 64MB memory problem has
been fix at the install level.  3.x only reads 64MB of RAM at the floppy
install.  4.0 reads all of my 128MB.

Cheers
Shaun

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, John Reynolds wrote:

> 
> OK, finally had a chance to frag the hard drive and install 4.0-RC3 from cdrom
> and see how it went. Here's my observations on the good:
> 
>  1) On the same hardware as I tested 4.0-RC and 4.0-RC2 on, now I no longer get
>     those "long ATA probes"! This is awesome! Whatever was done, is great, now
>     the machine boots very speedily.
> 
>  2) The "Standard Installation" is much better than "Novice". It was good to
>     rename this.
> 
>  3) I chose the "A" option for partition/label and good, reasonable defaults
>     were given to me.
> 
>  4) The "Standard Install" went flawlessly (despite my best attempts at pilot
>     error :).
> 
> Now observations on a few nit-picky things:
> 
>  1) There is a typo (spelling error) in one of the dialogs I was presented. I
>     was trying to force pilot error into the situation :) and got a dialog that
>     contained the following line:
> 
>       "You can also chose "No" at the next prompt and go back into the
>       installation menus to try and retry whichever operations failed."
> 
>     The word "chose" should be "choose." I'd supply a patch, but I only
>     installed kernel source :(
> 
>  2) Again, while trying to inject pilot error, I created a FreeBSD partition of
>     only 10Mb and gave that as the only slice the Label editor could deal
>     with. When I hit 'A' to have it auto-decide, it came back with a dialog
>     box:
> 
>       "Unable to create root partition. Too big?"
> 
>     I assume by what I gave to it, that it means to say "dummy, you didn't give
>     me a big enough slice with which to work, try again." If that is the case,
>     perhaps a small re-write of the dialog message is in order to help explain
>     what has gone on and a possible course of action to correct the
>     problem--like "give me a larger slice to work with here". In all honesty, I
>     *meant* to create a 10Gb partition and typed so fast that my brain didn't
>     snap that "10M" != "10G" ... and thus I presented a wierd situation to the
>     Label editor.
> 
> The system is fast, GNOME+E. desktop is usable, kernel config went like a
> charm. Looks *real* good from where I'm sittin'. Good work to all! Let's ship
> this puppy. :)
> 
> -Jr
> 
> -- 
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[ On Thursday, March 9, Shaun (UNIX) wrote: ]
> Hello,
> 
> You are using RC3 ?  Hmm...I wonder why you are not getting the ATA prob
> problems like alot of us are.  What is your system config?  
> 

I'm using a P2B-DS Asus motherboard with BX chipset. Standard PIIX4 stuff. The
drive is a Quantum Fireball 20.5Gb (don't have the exact model number
handy). It's a UDMA66 drive but of course I'm only using UDMA33 to it ...

I don't have the dmesg output handy from 4.0-RC3, but here's from 3.4-STABLE:

 chip0: <Intel 82443BX host to PCI bridge> rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0
 chip1: <Intel 82443BX host to AGP bridge> rev 0x02 on pci0.1.0
 chip2: <Intel 82371AB PCI to ISA bridge> rev 0x02 on pci0.4.0

Beats me, it's a pretty vanilla setup. All I know is that now when the thing
boots from the cd (and after compiling a custom kernel) it doesn't sit there
and "hang" for 30 seconds or so like it did before ..... ?

> Yes it is FAST! and I love it....I see that the 64MB memory problem has
> been fix at the install level.  3.x only reads 64MB of RAM at the floppy
> install.  4.0 reads all of my 128MB.

Yes, very fast ... I'm really looking forward to running it (I've been
installing on a disc I can frag at will ... can't "take the plunge" until later
:). 

-Jr

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Hello,

I have a question regarding ports.

I noticed there was compat3x distro files, is there going to be ports that
are only for FreeBSD 4.0 and will I ever run into a problem with 3.x ports
not working with 4.x

it was just a thought.

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On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Shaun (UNIX) wrote:

> I noticed there was compat3x distro files, is there going to be ports that
> are only for FreeBSD 4.0

Yes.

> and will I ever run into a problem with 3.x ports
> not working with 4.x

You shouldn't do: that's what the compat3x libraries are for.

Kris

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On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Devin Butterfield wrote:
> Just wondering if there are plans in the works to get Xfree86 4.0 into
> FreeBSD 4.0. I just noticed that X 4.0 has finally been released.

Looks a bit green for inclusion in a release not to mention that its list
of supported devices is a bit short in some areas.

There are 4.0 binaries for FreeBSD 4.0 and 3.x available on
ftp.xfree86.org and other mirrors so you can play around with it if you
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On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Paul Richards wrote:

> Non-root users can use the pw command to get information from the
> master.passwd file e.g.
> 
> ps showuser paul
> paul:*:1000:1000::0:0:& Richards:/home/paul:/usr/local/bin/bash

% pw showuser kkenn

kkenn:*:1000:0::0:0:Kris Kennaway:/home/kkenn:/usr/local/bin/tcsh

% grep kkenn /etc/passwd

kkenn:*:1000:0::0:0:Kris Kennaway:/home/kkenn:/usr/local/bin/tcsh

% ls -l /usr/bin/pw
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  53180 Mar  4 00:49 /usr/sbin/pw*

In other words, pw(8) runs with no special privileges and can only read
what the user can normally read.

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It seems Ben Smithurst wrote:
> ok, this was partly caused by dodgy hardware it seems, so don't worry
> too much, but it would be nice if a panic could be avoided.

aaiiighh! I knwo exactly what wrong, dont call make_dev early :)

Thanks, that probably one of the most complete reports I've seen in
a long time, makes bug hunting a breeze, thanks!

Fix coming as soon as I've tested it...

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My Config:

PIIIx2 TYAN S1836 board with dual 10k rpm Connor SCSI, 384Mb ram,
and Maxtrox G200 16Meg SD ram.

Ftp'd kern.flp and mfsroot.flp from current.freebsd.org
(4.0-2000-03-08_Snap)...

Did a clean install ...

Things I noticed were:

During the install, couldn't get the Crypt distribution or Local --
guess that has already been covered in the list.

While the installer detected my second SCSI drive da1, for some reason
when I tried to create a partition on da1 it would always show me da0
instead.

X11R6 gives me an elf linker error on the XThru...so when trying to use
XF86_SVGA (startx).  I can see the XThru..so in the lib/aout directory
but not in lib.  Did the XF_SVGA get linked wrong?

Misc Suggestion:

I personally find the installer much more friendly than any of the
competition, but
one area I feel it could be improved in would be to use Accept, Close,
and Cancel
rather than the current Ok and Cancel.

Hope this was of some help, long live BSD!

(Next time I promise to learn how to use the automated bug reporting
feature).

David Holland
dholland@xmission.com




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It seems Hans Ottevanger wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> I just tried to boot the RC3 install floppies on my Pentium 66 testbox.
> It gets through the config stage without trouble, but then panics
> immediately with:
> 
> ...
> pcib0: <Host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
> pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
> atapci0: <RZ 100? ATA controller !WARNING! buggy chip data loss
> possible> port 0
> x3f4-0x3f7,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 1.0 on pci0
> atapci0: Busmastering DMA not supported
> panic: resource_list_alloc: resource entry is busy
> 
> I am also having this problem with 4.0-CURRENT kernels since February
> 18, both with my own custom kernel config and GENERIC.
> I have to revert to the ata driver of February 17 or earlier to get the
> system booting again, and then it runs perfectly.

Hmm, seems to be a resource conflict problem, question is what is
causing this. Could you do a verbose boot both with the old
working kernel, and the new failing one ?

> This machine has an Intel motherboard with a Mercury chipset, 64 Mbyte
> RAM, Matrox Millenium II, two Western Digital disks, and it ran all
> previous FreeBSD releases perfectly for almost five years.

Yeah I notice the RZ 1000 chips in there, BE CAREFULL, I wouldn't
use this for anything I cared about...

-Søren


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This has been going on for awhile, and I've looked everywhere for a
solution.  When I boot single user, the / filesystem gets mounted on
wd0s4a even though /dev does not even have such an entry nor does
/etc/fstab, since these have all been updated.
This is not really such a problem until I try to exit from single user
mode.  Then, it tries to remount / on ad0s4a and can't find it.



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On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Peter Jeremy wrote:

> On 2000-Mar-10 12:06:18 +1100, Mikhail Teterin <mi@video-collage.com> wrote:
> >Will the -current version of FreeBSD  run on a multi-CPU axp machine and
> >use all of  the CPUs?
> 
> Not yet, but Real Soon Now.
> 
> > Would that  be a reliable box  (assuming the admin
> >sometimes knows  what he  is doing)?
> 
> -current comes with all the usual `not for production use' caveats,
> and (without any slur on Doug Rabson, who's doing the work), you'd
> be very game taking FreeBSD's first cut at Alpha/SMP and putting it
> into production.

On the other hand, a uniprocessor alpha has a decent amount of horsepower
and should be suitable for use in production.

--
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Nonlinear Systems Ltd.			Phone: +44 181 442 9037




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On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Bush Doctor wrote:

> Again my libRSAglue libraries before the above were:
> bantu.cl.msu.edu:dervish> ls -l /usr/lib/libR*
> -r--r--r--   1 root     wheel         810 Feb 28 22:28 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.a
> lrwxr-xr-x   1 root     wheel          15 Jan 29 07:29 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so -> libRSAglue.so.1
> -r--r--r--   1 root     wheel        5872 Jan 29 07:29 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so.1
> -r--r--r--   1 root     wheel         868 Feb 28 22:28 /usr/lib/libRSAglue_p.a

This was very helpful - I've been able to replicate the problem by install
an old libRSAglue of this vintage. It still doesn't answer why on earth
make world is trying to link with it, but at least now I have something to
look at. Thanks!

Kris

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 3/10/00, 9:51:06 AM, R Joseph Wright <rjoseph@nwlink.com> wrote
regarding single user mode problem:


> This has been going on for awhile, and I've looked everywhere for a
> solution.  When I boot single user, the / filesystem gets mounted on
> wd0s4a even though /dev does not even have such an entry nor does
> /etc/fstab, since these have all been updated.
> This is not really such a problem until I try to exit from single user=

> mode.  Then, it tries to remount / on ad0s4a and can't find it.


Dear Joseph,

as I have recently written, I met an analogous problem while upgrading
to CURRENT: the "wdNsMa syndrome" appeared when I rebooted in s.u.m.
with the shining gleaming roaring freshly-made 4.0-CURRENT kernel in
order to (somehow) make installworld. Well, I did NOT care about it
and I went ahead ruthlessly ...

By the way, I made another kernel at the end of the process ("by the
book"). I suppose (?) this cleared the problem. In fact, I was able to
boot with no weird messages: all my filesystems were correctly
identified as adNsM (e.g. ad1s2a, ad1s2e ...)

HTH,
Salvo





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> > Work on this driver is stalled owing to the fact that nobody that can
and
> > wants to work on it has access to the Compaq hardware required.  You
> > can't use these controllers except in Compaq systems, which makes things
> > very difficult.
> that's true :-(

Again I would like to point out, that only the newest controllers, 3200 and
up is difficult getting to work in non-Compaq systems:

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Hi,

    I need to use a quite big NFS server, serving ~120GB for ~200
clients, all OS's mixed (*BSD, Linux, HP-UX, IRIX, Solaris, Xterminals).

    Is it worth it to use the -current branch (-release on next monday
perhaps?) for this important server, or should I rather use the
3.4-STABLE  NFS implementation ?

Thanks for all the tips you could give me.

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Hi,

I installed a -current snap from internat.freebsd.org that was built
with crypto source from internat. I answered yes when sysinstall asked
me if I want the crypto stuff, but then found that it marked me as an
USA_RESIDENT=YES in /etc/make.conf and it also asked me later if I
want to install the rsaref libraries.

I think the test for USA_RESIDENT should be a bit more clever or the
message should be a bit more clear. At the moment it is:

--------
Do you wish to install cryptographic software?

If you choose No, FreeBSD will use an MD5 based password scheme which,
while perhaps more secure, is not interoperable with the traditional
DES-based passwords on other Unix systems.  There will also be some
differences in the type of RSA code you use.

Please do NOT choose Yes at this point if you are outside the
United States and Canada and are installing from a U.S. FTP server.
Instead, install everything but the crypto bits from the U.S. site
and then switch to an international FTP server to install crypto on
a second pass with the Custom Installation option.
--------

Maybe we can have some kind of flag in the crypto distribution to mark
if it is USA or non-USA and use that to decide how to set USA_RESIDENT
or maybe someone clever enough can figure out if the dowloaded crypto
libraries still need rsaref and use that to set it?

Also it would be nice to have an option to install the crypto ditribution
(to get openssh) but still have md5 passwords, ie. the libcrypt.* links
don't get extracted out of the crypto distribution or something can just
link them back to libscrypt.*.

John
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> >Very unfortunately, 6to4 is not yet supported in FreeBSD/KAME.
> >So now available options will be,
> > -Use freenet6 (for one hosts).
> > -Get IPv6 address block and connect to 6bone using gif tunnel.
> 
> 	We hope to add 6to4 support for KAME/FreeBSD very soon (next week is a
> 	good guess).   We may need some more testing before real use,
> 	but it should work.  it is in KAME/NetBSD already, I just don't have
> 	time to make it work on othre *BSDs yet...


6to4 support seems to be very important for initial IPv6
deployment on FreeBSD4.0, so I tried small additinal patches
to make it available. And It seems to work.

Could some FreeBSD4.0 user with direct internet connectivity
please try this patches and try to ping6 to my host's 6to4
address?
The procedure is,

 (1)apply this patch and rebuild your kernel

 (2)configure 6to4 interface

     I suppose that your IPv4 address is 1.2.3.4

     -configure stf interface's outer addr, using gifconfig

       gifconfig stf0 1.2.3.4 255.255.255.255

       (The destination IPv4 addr can be anything.)

     -encode your IPv4 address to hex format per 2 byte, for
      later use

       If it is 1.2.3.4, then it will be, 0102:0304.

     -encode your IPv6 address on stf interface, for later
      configuration

       The format is, like below.

         2002: 4byte v4 addr : 2byte SLA ID : 8byte interface ID

       For simplicity, I choose 0 for SLA ID, and 1 for interface ID.
       Then, if your IPv4 addr is 1.2.3.4, then your IPv6 addr on stf is,

         2002:0102:0304::1

     -configure stf interface's IPv6 addr

        Please use ifconfig.

       ifconfig stf0 inet6 2002:0102:0304::1 prefixlen 16

 (3)try pinging to my host's 6to4 address

    My machine's 6to4 address is 2002:cbb2:8dd8::1.

    Please try,

     ping6 2002:cbb2:8dd8::1

   I hope there is reply from my machine.



And here is the patches.

Thanks,
Yoshinobu Inoue

Index: net/if_gif.c
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/net/if_gif.c,v
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -r1.3 if_gif.c
--- net/if_gif.c	2000/02/27 18:36:30	1.3
+++ net/if_gif.c	2000/03/10 10:09:25
@@ -83,7 +83,7 @@
 /*
  * gif global variable definitions
  */
-int ngif = NGIF;		/* number of interfaces */
+int ngif = NGIF + 1;		/* number of interfaces. +1 for stf. */
 struct gif_softc *gif = 0;
 
 void
@@ -95,7 +95,7 @@
 
 	gif = sc = malloc (ngif * sizeof(struct gif_softc), M_DEVBUF, M_WAIT);
 	bzero(sc, ngif * sizeof(struct gif_softc));
-	for (i = 0; i < ngif; sc++, i++) {
+	for (i = 0; i < ngif - 1; sc++, i++) {  /* leave last one for stf */
 		sc->gif_if.if_name = "gif";
 		sc->gif_if.if_unit = i;
 		sc->gif_if.if_mtu    = GIF_MTU;
@@ -107,6 +107,16 @@
 		if_attach(&sc->gif_if);
 		bpfattach(&sc->gif_if, DLT_NULL, sizeof(u_int));
 	}
+	sc->gif_if.if_name = "stf";
+	sc->gif_if.if_unit = 0;
+	sc->gif_if.if_mtu    = GIF_MTU;
+	sc->gif_if.if_flags  = IFF_MULTICAST;
+	sc->gif_if.if_ioctl  = gif_ioctl;
+	sc->gif_if.if_output = gif_output;
+	sc->gif_if.if_type   = IFT_GIF;
+	sc->gif_if.if_snd.ifq_maxlen = ifqmaxlen;
+	if_attach(&sc->gif_if);
+	bpfattach(&sc->gif_if, DLT_NULL, sizeof(u_int));
 }
 
 PSEUDO_SET(gifattach, if_gif);
@@ -322,6 +332,11 @@
 
 			/* only one gif can have dst = INADDR_ANY */
 #define	satosaddr(sa) (((struct sockaddr_in *)(sa))->sin_addr.s_addr)
+
+#ifdef INET6
+			if (bcmp(ifp->if_name, "stf", 3) == 0)
+				satosaddr(dst) = INADDR_BROADCAST;
+#endif
 
 			if (satosaddr(dst) == INADDR_ANY) {
 				int i;
Index: netinet/in_gif.c
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/netinet/in_gif.c,v
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -r1.3 in_gif.c
--- netinet/in_gif.c	1999/12/22 19:13:18	1.3
+++ netinet/in_gif.c	2000/03/10 10:09:25
@@ -84,6 +84,9 @@
 SYSCTL_INT(_net_inet_ip, IPCTL_GIF_TTL, gifttl, CTLFLAG_RW,
 	&ip_gif_ttl,	0, "");
 
+#define IN6_IS_ADDR_6TO4(x)	(ntohs((x)->s6_addr16[0]) == 0x2002)
+#define GET_V4(x)	((struct in_addr *)(&(x)->s6_addr16[1]))
+
 int
 in_gif_output(ifp, family, m, rt)
 	struct ifnet	*ifp;
@@ -98,6 +101,9 @@
 	struct ip iphdr;	/* capsule IP header, host byte ordered */
 	int proto, error;
 	u_int8_t tos;
+#ifdef INET6
+	struct ip6_hdr *ip6 = NULL;
+#endif
 
 	if (sin_src == NULL || sin_dst == NULL ||
 	    sin_src->sin_family != AF_INET ||
@@ -124,7 +130,6 @@
 #ifdef INET6
 	case AF_INET6:
 	    {
-		struct ip6_hdr *ip6;
 		proto = IPPROTO_IPV6;
 		if (m->m_len < sizeof(*ip6)) {
 			m = m_pullup(m, sizeof(*ip6));
@@ -147,6 +152,24 @@
 
 	bzero(&iphdr, sizeof(iphdr));
 	iphdr.ip_src = sin_src->sin_addr;
+#ifdef INET6
+	/* XXX: temporal stf support hack */
+	if (bcmp(ifp->if_name, "stf", 3) == 0 && ip6 != NULL) {
+		if (IN6_IS_ADDR_6TO4(&ip6->ip6_dst))
+			iphdr.ip_dst = *GET_V4(&ip6->ip6_dst);
+		else if (rt && rt->rt_gateway->sa_family == AF_INET6) {
+			struct in6_addr *dst6;
+
+			dst6 = &((struct sockaddr_in6 *)
+				 (rt->rt_gateway))->sin6_addr;
+			if (IN6_IS_ADDR_6TO4(dst6))
+				iphdr.ip_dst = *GET_V4(dst6);
+		} else {
+			m_freem(m);
+			return ENETUNREACH;
+		}
+	} else
+#endif
 	if (ifp->if_flags & IFF_LINK0) {
 		/* multi-destination mode */
 		if (sin_dst->sin_addr.s_addr != INADDR_ANY)
@@ -232,6 +255,17 @@
 
 		if ((sc->gif_if.if_flags & IFF_UP) == 0)
 			continue;
+
+#ifdef INET6
+		/* XXX: temporal stf support hack */
+		if (proto == IPPROTO_IPV6 &&
+		    bcmp(sc->gif_if.if_name, "stf", 3) == 0 &&
+		    satosin(sc->gif_psrc)->sin_addr.s_addr ==
+		    ip->ip_dst.s_addr) {
+			gifp = &sc->gif_if;
+			break;
+		}
+#endif
 
 		if ((sc->gif_if.if_flags & IFF_LINK0)
 		 && satosin(sc->gif_psrc)->sin_addr.s_addr == ip->ip_dst.s_addr
      
       




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> And here is the patches.

The last patches should work but I found a improvement related
to coexistence with gif, so this is the updated patches.

Thanks,
Yoshinobu Inoue

Index: net/if_gif.c
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/net/if_gif.c,v
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -r1.3 if_gif.c
--- net/if_gif.c	2000/02/27 18:36:30	1.3
+++ net/if_gif.c	2000/03/10 11:32:38
@@ -83,7 +83,7 @@
 /*
  * gif global variable definitions
  */
-int ngif = NGIF;		/* number of interfaces */
+int ngif = NGIF + 1;		/* number of interfaces. +1 for stf. */
 struct gif_softc *gif = 0;
 
 void
@@ -95,7 +95,7 @@
 
 	gif = sc = malloc (ngif * sizeof(struct gif_softc), M_DEVBUF, M_WAIT);
 	bzero(sc, ngif * sizeof(struct gif_softc));
-	for (i = 0; i < ngif; sc++, i++) {
+	for (i = 0; i < ngif - 1; sc++, i++) {  /* leave last one for stf */
 		sc->gif_if.if_name = "gif";
 		sc->gif_if.if_unit = i;
 		sc->gif_if.if_mtu    = GIF_MTU;
@@ -107,6 +107,16 @@
 		if_attach(&sc->gif_if);
 		bpfattach(&sc->gif_if, DLT_NULL, sizeof(u_int));
 	}
+	sc->gif_if.if_name = "stf";
+	sc->gif_if.if_unit = 0;
+	sc->gif_if.if_mtu    = GIF_MTU;
+	sc->gif_if.if_flags  = IFF_MULTICAST;
+	sc->gif_if.if_ioctl  = gif_ioctl;
+	sc->gif_if.if_output = gif_output;
+	sc->gif_if.if_type   = IFT_GIF;
+	sc->gif_if.if_snd.ifq_maxlen = ifqmaxlen;
+	if_attach(&sc->gif_if);
+	bpfattach(&sc->gif_if, DLT_NULL, sizeof(u_int));
 }
 
 PSEUDO_SET(gifattach, if_gif);
@@ -322,6 +332,11 @@
 
 			/* only one gif can have dst = INADDR_ANY */
 #define	satosaddr(sa) (((struct sockaddr_in *)(sa))->sin_addr.s_addr)
+
+#ifdef INET6
+			if (bcmp(ifp->if_name, "stf", 3) == 0)
+				satosaddr(dst) = INADDR_BROADCAST;
+#endif
 
 			if (satosaddr(dst) == INADDR_ANY) {
 				int i;
Index: netinet/in_gif.c
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/netinet/in_gif.c,v
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -r1.3 in_gif.c
--- netinet/in_gif.c	1999/12/22 19:13:18	1.3
+++ netinet/in_gif.c	2000/03/10 11:32:38
@@ -84,6 +84,9 @@
 SYSCTL_INT(_net_inet_ip, IPCTL_GIF_TTL, gifttl, CTLFLAG_RW,
 	&ip_gif_ttl,	0, "");
 
+#define IN6_IS_ADDR_6TO4(x)	(ntohs((x)->s6_addr16[0]) == 0x2002)
+#define GET_V4(x)	((struct in_addr *)(&(x)->s6_addr16[1]))
+
 int
 in_gif_output(ifp, family, m, rt)
 	struct ifnet	*ifp;
@@ -98,6 +101,9 @@
 	struct ip iphdr;	/* capsule IP header, host byte ordered */
 	int proto, error;
 	u_int8_t tos;
+#ifdef INET6
+	struct ip6_hdr *ip6 = NULL;
+#endif
 
 	if (sin_src == NULL || sin_dst == NULL ||
 	    sin_src->sin_family != AF_INET ||
@@ -124,7 +130,6 @@
 #ifdef INET6
 	case AF_INET6:
 	    {
-		struct ip6_hdr *ip6;
 		proto = IPPROTO_IPV6;
 		if (m->m_len < sizeof(*ip6)) {
 			m = m_pullup(m, sizeof(*ip6));
@@ -147,6 +152,24 @@
 
 	bzero(&iphdr, sizeof(iphdr));
 	iphdr.ip_src = sin_src->sin_addr;
+#ifdef INET6
+	/* XXX: temporal stf support hack */
+	if (bcmp(ifp->if_name, "stf", 3) == 0 && ip6 != NULL) {
+		if (IN6_IS_ADDR_6TO4(&ip6->ip6_dst))
+			iphdr.ip_dst = *GET_V4(&ip6->ip6_dst);
+		else if (rt && rt->rt_gateway->sa_family == AF_INET6) {
+			struct in6_addr *dst6;
+
+			dst6 = &((struct sockaddr_in6 *)
+				 (rt->rt_gateway))->sin6_addr;
+			if (IN6_IS_ADDR_6TO4(dst6))
+				iphdr.ip_dst = *GET_V4(dst6);
+		} else {
+			m_freem(m);
+			return ENETUNREACH;
+		}
+	} else
+#endif
 	if (ifp->if_flags & IFF_LINK0) {
 		/* multi-destination mode */
 		if (sin_dst->sin_addr.s_addr != INADDR_ANY)
@@ -232,6 +255,19 @@
 
 		if ((sc->gif_if.if_flags & IFF_UP) == 0)
 			continue;
+
+#ifdef INET6
+		/* XXX: temporal stf support hack */
+		if (proto == IPPROTO_IPV6 &&
+		    bcmp(sc->gif_if.if_name, "stf", 3) == 0 &&
+		    satosin(sc->gif_psrc)->sin_addr.s_addr ==
+		    ip->ip_dst.s_addr &&
+		    satosin(sc->gif_pdst)->sin_addr.s_addr ==
+		    INADDR_BROADCAST) {
+			gifp = &sc->gif_if;
+			break;
+		}
+#endif
 
 		if ((sc->gif_if.if_flags & IFF_LINK0)
 		 && satosin(sc->gif_psrc)->sin_addr.s_addr == ip->ip_dst.s_addr


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freebsd@mrynet.com (FreeBSD mailing list) writes:

> You know people, it's quite sad that those with knowledge simply
> refuse to answer simple questions without "RTFM" attitudes and
> indirect (and more frequently direct) insults to intelligence and
> sensibilities.

The answer `run mergemaster' will work for the next, similar,
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John Reynolds wrote:
>  1) There is a typo (spelling error) in one of the dialogs I was presented. I
>     was trying to force pilot error into the situation :) and got a dialog that
>     contained the following line:
> 
>       "You can also chose "No" at the next prompt and go back into the
>       installation menus to try and retry whichever operations failed."
> 
>     The word "chose" should be "choose." I'd supply a patch, but I only
>     installed kernel source :(
> 
Also, this sentence should either have "try and" removed or replaced
with "attempt to".  Either of these is much better grammatically.

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On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 08:09:04PM +0900, Yoshinobu Inoue wrote:

> 6to4 support seems to be very important for initial IPv6
> deployment on FreeBSD4.0, so I tried small additinal patches
> to make it available. And It seems to work.
> 
> Could some FreeBSD4.0 user with direct internet connectivity
> please try this patches and try to ping6 to my host's 6to4
> address?
> The procedure is,

For the benefit of the lists, and confirming private mail I sent,
ping6 works using the second of the patches sent (I didn't try the
first).

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Kris Kennaway wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Paul Richards wrote:
> 
> > Non-root users can use the pw command to get information from the
> > master.passwd file e.g.
> >
> > ps showuser paul
> > paul:*:1000:1000::0:0:& Richards:/home/paul:/usr/local/bin/bash
> 
> % pw showuser kkenn
> 
> kkenn:*:1000:0::0:0:Kris Kennaway:/home/kkenn:/usr/local/bin/tcsh
> 
> % grep kkenn /etc/passwd
> 
> kkenn:*:1000:0::0:0:Kris Kennaway:/home/kkenn:/usr/local/bin/tcsh
> 
> % ls -l /usr/bin/pw
> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  53180 Mar  4 00:49 /usr/sbin/pw*
> 
> In other words, pw(8) runs with no special privileges and can only read
> what the user can normally read.

Ok, as Mike mentioned in his email pw gets its info from pwd.db, I knew
that. What I had assumed was that pwd.db was the same as the contents of
/etc/passwd. I spent most of last night trying to work out how a
non-root user was getting access to master.passwd based on that flawed
assumption :-)

My /etc/passwd does not have the class and expiry fields in it. I've
deleted it and let it be recreated and it still doesn't have those
fields. I've browsed through the code in pwd_mkdb and it looks to me
like it deliberately creates the old style /etc/passwd file, which makes
sense from a comatibility perspective. 

So what I'm puzzled about now is how come yours is different and do we
think its correct that pwd.db and /etc/passwd have different information
in them?

Paul.


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We use A Mylex DAC960PD RAID 5 controller, attached to 7 
harddrives. One of the drives have had permanent failures, so
we changed it. Well, as I understand RAID 5, rebuilding the defective
drive should not involve the system, but On console (it ttyv0) I get
a message like "mlx0: error reading message log - invalid log entry request".
On all other ttyv* a logged in user (root) gets the same message
from kernel. Is this eloquence of the kernel and the mlx-driver a preliminary
feature or is the code still buggy, instable or anything else? I feel a little bit
confused about that, while other systems using RAID 5 are completely quiet
while rebuilding the defective and changed device. 

On the other hand, how can I redirect console output to another console, on which
nobody never can log in (it should not be ttyv0)? How to prevent users and root
on some ttyv* from getting that much error messages, except on a bunch of
declared ttys?

Thanks in advance ...

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In article <local.mail.freebsd-current/20000310101848$e234@prism.flugsvamp.com> you write:
>> > Work on this driver is stalled owing to the fact that nobody that can
>and
>> > wants to work on it has access to the Compaq hardware required.  You
>> > can't use these controllers except in Compaq systems, which makes things
>> > very difficult.
>> that's true :-(
>
>Again I would like to point out, that only the newest controllers, 3200 and
>up is difficult getting to work in non-Compaq systems:
>
>http://seeberg.dk/freebsd/idaraid

Note that I just committed some more changes to the IDA driver to
4.0-RC yesterday.  The changes are:

	- support for EISA controllers (untested)
	- support for newer S2400 controllers (untested)
	- addition of IDA to the GENERIC kernel
	- support for installing directly onto the RAID array.
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A couple of comments on the RC3 CD image.

1) I tried to install by moving things out od the way:
	cd /;mkdir save;mv * save;cd /usr;mkdir save;mv * save
and then boot from CD.  Because I did not newfs /, it assumed /dev was
built and failed.

2) When I tried to install CRYPTO from the CD I got errors for a number of
them, something about not being able to read a script of something (it was
2am so I do not have the exact error message), so i installed from FTP.

3) First time i declined DES because I did not want DES passwords, hoping
it would install crypto (ssl, ssh) or would ask me.

Over the install went well, I will finish configuring tonight and see how
it goes.

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It appears inetd is broken if you don't have INET6 defined.  This is
the case for picoBSD, for example:

> make -DRELEASE_CRUNCH
cc -O -pipe -Wall -DLOGIN_CAP  -c /usr/source/src/usr.sbin/inetd/inetd.c
/usr/source/src/usr.sbin/inetd/inetd.c: In function `getconfigent':
/usr/source/src/usr.sbin/inetd/inetd.c:1594: syntax error before `else'
/usr/source/src/usr.sbin/inetd/inetd.c:1435: warning: unused variable `s'
/usr/source/src/usr.sbin/inetd/inetd.c:1434: warning: unused variable `argc'
/usr/source/src/usr.sbin/inetd/inetd.c: At top level:
/usr/source/src/usr.sbin/inetd/inetd.c:1601: syntax error before `->'
/usr/source/src/usr.sbin/inetd/inetd.c:1601: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of
`se_family'
/usr/source/src/usr.sbin/inetd/inetd.c:1601: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
/usr/source/src/usr.sbin/inetd/inetd.c:1602: syntax error before `}'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/source/src/usr.sbin/inetd.

I've fixed this and another INET6-related warning with this patch:


Index: builtins.c
===================================================================
RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/usr.sbin/inetd/builtins.c,v
retrieving revision 1.17
diff -u -r1.17 builtins.c
--- builtins.c  2000/01/25 14:52:09     1.17
+++ builtins.c  2000/03/10 15:13:35
@@ -335,7 +335,9 @@
        struct utsname un;
        struct stat sb;
        struct sockaddr_in sin[2];
+#ifdef INET6
        struct sockaddr_in6 sin6[2];
+#endif
        struct sockaddr_storage ss[2];
        struct ucred uc;
        struct timeval tv = {
Index: inetd.c
===================================================================
RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/usr.sbin/inetd/inetd.c,v
retrieving revision 1.79
diff -u -r1.79 inetd.c
--- inetd.c     2000/02/22 00:27:53     1.79
+++ inetd.c     2000/03/10 15:13:08
@@ -1590,8 +1590,8 @@
                if (v4bind == 0 || no_v4bind != 0)
                        sep->se_nomapped = 1;
        }
-#endif
        else { /* default to v4 bind if not v6 bind */
+#endif
                if (no_v4bind != 0) {
                        syslog(LOG_INFO, "IPv4 bind is ignored for %s",
                               sep->se_service);
@@ -1599,7 +1599,9 @@
                        goto more;
                }
                sep->se_family = AF_INET;
+#ifdef INET6
        }
+#endif
        /* init ctladdr */
        switch(sep->se_family) {
        case AF_INET:

This patch can also be found at
http://people.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/patches/inetd.patch

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On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 07:35:08AM -0600, Richard Seaman, Jr. wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 08:09:04PM +0900, Yoshinobu Inoue wrote:
> 
> > 6to4 support seems to be very important for initial IPv6
> > deployment on FreeBSD4.0, so I tried small additinal patches
> > to make it available. And It seems to work.
> > 
> > Could some FreeBSD4.0 user with direct internet connectivity
> > please try this patches and try to ping6 to my host's 6to4
> > address?
> > The procedure is,
> 
> For the benefit of the lists, and confirming private mail I sent,
> ping6 works using the second of the patches sent (I didn't try the
> first).

Ok.  In addition to your instructions I also configured the
box as an IPv6 router (using the rc.conf switches) and
used a prefix of 2002:cc5f:bb02::0/64 on the interior
ethernet interface de0 with 2002:cc5f:bb02::1/16 on stf0. I'm
not sure if this is quite right.

Anyway, I can ping6 to 2002:cbb2:8dd8::1 from my interior ipv6
box as well as from the router box.  I also configured DNS
for the two boxes, assigning ipv6 addresses to test.ipv6.tar.com
and ns.ipv6.tar.com.  One of my DNS secondaries does not update
immediately on notification, so you might not get the ipv6
resolution until it updates on schedule if you happen to query
that box.  However, once all the secondaries are up, i hope
you can ping6 to both ns.ipv6.tar.com (router) and 
test.ipv6.tar.com (interior).

I also had to adjust my ipv4 firewall rules to allow protocol
ipv6 through.  Strange that I didn't have to do that when
doing a gif tunnel to freenet6.net.  Also, what do I have to
do to enable ip6fw?    


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Well, Iposted prior a message here because of the failure of our Mylex
DAC960PD based RAID 5.

After changing the faulty drive, the Mylex controller started rebuilding
the defective drive (hot-swapped the drive). On console I got (and still get!)
the message 
	mlx0: error reading message log - invalid log entry request
This message is still dumped out of the console although all activities on
the RAID has been stopped and it seems to be 'repaired'. But the whole
system is really slow now! what is going on? RAID 5 controller is 
Mylex DAC960PD mlx0: DAC960P/PD, 3 channels, firmware 3.51-0-12, 4MB RAM.

The system is based on the cvsupdated source of Tuesday, 07th March.

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On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Paul Richards wrote:

> So what I'm puzzled about now is how come yours is different and do we
> think its correct that pwd.db and /etc/passwd have different information
> in them?

Oops, that was a cut-n-paste-o. I didn't notice the extra two fields the
second time :-)

It's for backwards-compatability, you're right.

Kris

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> 
> > This has been going on for awhile, and I've looked everywhere for a
> > solution.  When I boot single user, the / filesystem gets mounted on
> > wd0s4a even though /dev does not even have such an entry nor does
> > /etc/fstab, since these have all been updated.
> > This is not really such a problem until I try to exit from single user
> > mode.  Then, it tries to remount / on ad0s4a and can't find it.
> 
> 
> Dear Joseph,
> 
> as I have recently written, I met an analogous problem while upgrading
> to CURRENT: the "wdNsMa syndrome" appeared when I rebooted in s.u.m.
> with the shining gleaming roaring freshly-made 4.0-CURRENT kernel in
> order to (somehow) make installworld. Well, I did NOT care about it
> and I went ahead ruthlessly ...
> 
> By the way, I made another kernel at the end of the process ("by the
> book"). I suppose (?) this cleared the problem. In fact, I was able to
> boot with no weird messages: all my filesystems were correctly
> identified as adNsM (e.g. ad1s2a, ad1s2e ...)

Hi Salvo,

I did read your recent post on this.  For me, however, the problem
persists even with a new kernel.  I've looked through all the boot and
init files for some clue as to where it's getting the idea that / is on
wd0s4a but I can't find anything ):-(.



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Out of da blue Kris Kennaway aka (kris@hub.freebsd.org) said:
> On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Bush Doctor wrote:
> 
> > Again my libRSAglue libraries before the above were:
> > bantu.cl.msu.edu:dervish> ls -l /usr/lib/libR*
> > -r--r--r--   1 root     wheel         810 Feb 28 22:28 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.a
> > lrwxr-xr-x   1 root     wheel          15 Jan 29 07:29 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so -> libRSAglue.so.1
> > -r--r--r--   1 root     wheel        5872 Jan 29 07:29 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so.1
> > -r--r--r--   1 root     wheel         868 Feb 28 22:28 /usr/lib/libRSAglue_p.a
> 
> This was very helpful - I've been able to replicate the problem by install
> an old libRSAglue of this vintage. It still doesn't answer why on earth
> make world is trying to link with it, but at least now I have something to
> look at. Thanks!
You're welcome.  I'm interested in what you find out.

> 
> Kris
> 
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>     -- Charles Forsythe <forsythe@alum.mit.edu>
> 
> 

#;^)
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To: Kris Kennaway <kris@hub.freebsd.org>
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Kris Kennaway wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Bush Doctor wrote:
> 
> > Again my libRSAglue libraries before the above were:
> > bantu.cl.msu.edu:dervish> ls -l /usr/lib/libR*
> > -r--r--r--   1 root     wheel         810 Feb 28 22:28 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.a
> > lrwxr-xr-x   1 root     wheel          15 Jan 29 07:29 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so -> libRSAglue.so.1
> > -r--r--r--   1 root     wheel        5872 Jan 29 07:29 /usr/lib/libRSAglue.so.1
> > -r--r--r--   1 root     wheel         868 Feb 28 22:28 /usr/lib/libRSAglue_p.a
> 
> This was very helpful - I've been able to replicate the problem by install
> an old libRSAglue of this vintage. It still doesn't answer why on earth
> make world is trying to link with it, but at least now I have something to
> look at. Thanks!

I looked into this problem a bit as well.

I believe it is a build order and dependency problem that shouldn't
exist.  libkrb is built before libRSAglue and then the shared library is
built with -LRSAglue which is only found in /usr/lib. 
kerberosIV/Makefile.inc has a line