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After briefly looking through your website (Freebsd.org),
I was unable to find an answer to the following:
Is it possible to download Unix from freebsd?
If not, where can I download Unix?
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-On [20000116 20:20], Gerd von Glinski (gerd.vonglinski@gte.net) wrote:
>After briefly looking through your website (Freebsd.org),
Ok, if you did that.
How could you miss this staring in your face at the top of the mainpage
at www.freebsd.org:
FreeBSD is an advanced BSD UNIX operating system for "PC-compatible"
computers, developed and maintained by a large team of individuals.
>I was unable to find an answer to the following:
>Is it possible to download Unix from freebsd?
>If not, where can I download Unix?
So, as the above says, FreeBSD _is_ a Unix descendant.
I also believe I know some people at gte.net whom already use FreeBSD.
=)
These questions are best asked in freebsd-questions@freebsd.org by the
way. There is also a German forum in case that is better for you.
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Before asking my libelf question on -hackers, I spent some time reading
elf.5 and a.out.5. At the bottom of a.out.5 in the BUGS section is the
comment:
New binary file formats may be supported in the future, and they probably
will not be compatible at any level with this ancient format.
As ELF is now supported, this comment is a bit out of date. I didn't
submit a PR because it didn't seem that important and I didn't know what
it should say anyway. :)
Jamie
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, James Howard wrote:
> Before asking my libelf question on -hackers, I spent some time reading
> elf.5 and a.out.5. At the bottom of a.out.5 in the BUGS section is the
> comment:
>
> New binary file formats may be supported in the future, and they
> probably
> will not be compatible at any level with this ancient format.
>
> As ELF is now supported, this comment is a bit out of date. I didn't
> submit a PR because it didn't seem that important and I didn't know what
> it should say anyway. :)
I think the best course of action is to delete this paragraph and add a
reference to elf(5) in SEE ALSO.
--- a.out.5.old Sun Jan 16 17:45:37 2000
+++ a.out.5 Sun Jan 16 17:45:57 2000
@@ -436,7 +436,8 @@
.Xr nlist 3 ,
.Xr core 5 ,
.Xr link 5 ,
-.Xr stab 5
+.Xr stab 5 ,
+.Xr elf 5
.Sh HISTORY
The
.Pa a.out.h
@@ -457,7 +458,3 @@
Nobody seems to agree on what
.Em bss
stands for.
-.Pp
-New binary file formats may be supported in the future,
-and they probably will not be compatible at any level
-with this ancient format.
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< said:
> I think he wants to know why we use 'sh' instead of one
> of the more popular shells.
OK. I've moved the thread to -questions where it would be more
appropriate. Doc team: this should go in the FAQ.
The simple answer is: because POSIX says that there shall be such a
shell.
The more complicated answer: many people need to write shell scripts
which will be portable across many systems. That's why POSIX
specifies the shell and utility commands in great detail. Most
scripts are written in Bourne shell, and because several important
programming interfaces (make(1), system(3), popen(3), and analogues in
higher-level scripting languages like Perl and Tcl) are specified to
use the Bourne shell to interpret commands. Because the Bourne shell
is so often and widely used, it is important for it to be quick to
start, be deterministic in its behavior, and have a small memory
footprint.
The existing implementation is our best effort at meeting as many of
these requirements simultaneously as we can. In order to keep /bin/sh
small, we have not provided many of the convenience features that other
shells have. That's why the Ports Collection includes more featureful
shells like bash, scsh, tcsh, and zsh. (You can compare for yourself
the memory utilization of all these shells by looking at the `VSZ' and
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Hi,
I was doing some DNS stuff for a couple of days and I didn't find any docs,
guides at
SMM:10 Name Server Operations Guide for BIND
Setting up and operating the name to Internet addressing software. If
you have a network this will be of interest. Is not a link. Anyway I had a
look on Internet and I have found this doc:
http://www.kvikkjokk.com/docs/bind/
Can also this be integrated at our pages docs.freebsd.org ???
Thanks,
stefan
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hi,
On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 05:47:21PM -0800, Brian W. Buchanan wrote:
> I think the best course of action is to delete this paragraph and add a
> reference to elf(5) in SEE ALSO.
>
> --- a.out.5.old Sun Jan 16 17:45:37 2000
> +++ a.out.5 Sun Jan 16 17:45:57 2000
> @@ -436,7 +436,8 @@
> .Xr nlist 3 ,
> .Xr core 5 ,
> .Xr link 5 ,
> -.Xr stab 5
> +.Xr stab 5 ,
> +.Xr elf 5
Style bug. You have to leave Cross Refs sorted by section numbers, and then
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>Number: 16152
>Category: docs
>Synopsis: books/fdp-primer: Footnotes mangled in SGML Primer
>Confidential: no
>Severity: serious
>Priority: high
>Responsible: freebsd-doc
>State: open
>Quarter:
>Keywords:
>Date-Required:
>Class: doc-bug
>Submitter-Id: current-users
>Arrival-Date: Mon Jan 17 00:20:00 PST 2000
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator: Marcin Cieślak
>Release: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386
>Organization:
SYSTEM Internet Provider
>Environment:
Current "doc" tree cvsupped daily.
>Description:
In the PDF, html and perhaps any else format footnotes
at the end of "SGML Primer" chapter start at numer two.
Number one is ommited.
>How-To-Repeat:
Typeset the fdp-primer.
>Fix:
No fix this time, sorry.
I have found the code responsible for the first missing footnote.
I don't know why it goes as a Note "a." into HTML output,
or even the whole table is missing from PDF output.
I guess that it is not so easy (but SGML, DSSSL, whavetever permits this)
to add a footnote from inside of the table.
From:
$FreeBSD: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/sgml-primer/chapter.sgml,v 1.9 1999/09/06 06:52:42 peter Exp $
First footnote:
5
A one letter code indicating the nature of the
message. I indicates an informational
message, W is for warnings, and
E is for errors
It is not always the fifth column either.
nsgmls -sv displays
nsgmls:I: SP version "1.3"
(depending on the installed version). As you can see,
this is an informational message.
, and X is for
cross-references. As you can see, these messages are
errors.
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:
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Current FreeBSD problem reports
The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users.
These represent problem reports covering all versions including
experimental development code and obsolete releases.
Bugs can be in one of several states:
o - open
A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed.
a - analyzed
The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated.
f - feedback
The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a
patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state
pending a response from the originator.
s - suspended
The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate
for somebody who is looking for a project to do.
If the problem cannot be solved at all,
it will be closed, rather than suspended.
c - closed
A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated,
documented, and tested.
Critical problems
Serious problems
S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o [1999/12/22] docs/15637 doc diff to add quantum to src/gen/lib/libc/g
o [2000/01/17] docs/16152 doc books/fdp-primer: Footnotes mangled in SG
2 problems total.
Non-critical problems
S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated
o [1998/09/09] docs/7873 doc poor initial configuration and documentat
o [1998/10/25] docs/8445 doc Update of "Installing Mathematica on Free
o [1999/02/25] docs/10240 doc We need a script which check if our web m
o [1999/03/29] docs/10850 doc submitting a documentation change for sed
o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi
o [1999/04/21] docs/11258 doc suggestion to refine npx.4
o [1999/06/01] docs/11978 doc timed(8) manpage does not define '-F' swi
o [1999/08/13] docs/13116 doc typo in ms(7)
o [1999/08/23] docs/13333 doc remove rtld(1) XREF in dlopen.3
o [1999/08/23] docs/13341 doc FAQ 8.7 addition - booting drive 1 from N
o [1999/08/28] docs/13441 doc incorrect path in SGML_CATALOG_FILES env
o [1999/08/28] docs/13442 doc docproj-primer does not mention where to
o [1999/09/17] docs/13792 doc Difficult to find documentation of "secur
o [1999/09/19] docs/13815 doc Out-of-date FAQ entries
o [1999/09/21] docs/13878 doc No isnanf(3) documentation
o [1999/09/22] docs/13914 doc global(1) manpage does not explain -v opt
o [1999/09/25] docs/13950 doc webpage idea
o [1999/09/25] docs/13967 doc FreeBSD Related Publications in Korea
o [1999/09/28] docs/14024 doc Several manpages still mentions hosts.den
o [1999/09/29] docs/14035 doc tzfile.h referenced in tzfile(5) doesn't
o [1999/10/06] docs/14158 doc md5(1) manpage should not claim the md5 a
o [1999/10/25] bin/14532 doc Much of cam_cdbparse(3) prints in Courier
o [1999/10/27] docs/14563 doc Wrong manpage produced by `man 4 fd'
o [1999/10/27] docs/14565 doc ioctl() codes for device type `fd' (flopp
o [1999/11/03] docs/14682 doc lprm(1) unaware of lp(1) Environment Vari
o [1999/12/06] docs/15300 doc assorted update for FAQ
o [1999/12/10] docs/15408 doc Description of ls and nlist wrong in man
o [1999/12/19] bin/15561 doc regex(3) manpage needs update
o [1999/12/20] docs/15600 doc Undocumented option in restore(8)
o [1999/12/23] docs/15661 doc Handbook doesn't properly document bootin
o [1999/12/25] docs/15697 doc Outdated information about Sendmail's con
o [2000/01/01] docs/15821 doc Wrong device names in manpages for lpt(4)
o [2000/01/04] misc/15890 doc rfork(RFMEM) on SMP generates error
o [2000/01/11] docs/16065 doc small note about HP printers.
35 problems total.
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From: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven
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James Howard , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: a.out.5
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-On [20000117 08:40], Alexey Zelkin (phantom@cris.net) wrote:
>On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 05:47:21PM -0800, Brian W. Buchanan wrote:
>
>> I think the best course of action is to delete this paragraph and add a
>> reference to elf(5) in SEE ALSO.
[snip patch]
>Style bug. You have to leave Cross Refs sorted by section numbers, and then
>alphabetically.
Please see rev 1.9 of a.out.5 on CURRENT.
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote:
> Please see rev 1.9 of a.out.5 on CURRENT.
Looks good to me.
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>Number: 16173
>Category: docs
>Synopsis: [PATCH] fix for the kld/cdev example
>Confidential: no
>Severity: non-critical
>Priority: low
>Responsible: freebsd-doc
>State: open
>Quarter:
>Keywords:
>Date-Required:
>Class: doc-bug
>Submitter-Id: current-users
>Arrival-Date: Tue Jan 18 06:20:01 PST 2000
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>Last-Modified:
>Originator: System Administrator
>Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386
>Organization:
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>Environment:
>Description:
Due to changes in the device interface /usr/share/examples/kld/cdev/module does
not builds correctly anymore.
>How-To-Repeat:
cd /usr/share/examples/kld/cdev/module && make
>Fix:
diff -ruN module.orig/cdevmod.c module/cdevmod.c
--- module.orig/cdevmod.c Tue Jan 18 15:11:26 2000
+++ module/cdevmod.c Mon Jan 17 15:59:25 2000
@@ -81,19 +81,14 @@
/* read */ noread,
/* write */ nowrite,
/* ioctl */ mydev_ioctl,
- /* stop */ nostop,
- /* reset */ noreset,
- /* devtotty */ nodevtotty,
/* poll */ nopoll,
/* mmap */ nommap,
/* strategy */ nostrategy,
/* name */ "cdev",
- /* parms */ noparms,
/* maj */ CDEV_MAJOR,
/* dump */ nodump,
/* psize */ nopsize,
/* flags */ D_TTY,
- /* maxio */ 0,
/* bmaj */ -1
};
@@ -123,6 +118,7 @@
printf("Copyright (c) 1998\n");
printf("Rajesh Vaidheeswarran\n");
printf("All rights reserved\n");
+ cdevsw_add(&my_devsw);
break; /* Success*/
case MOD_UNLOAD:
@@ -139,4 +135,4 @@
/* Now declare the module to the system */
-DEV_MODULE(cdev, CDEV_MAJOR, -1, my_devsw, cdev_load, 0);
+DEV_MODULE(cdev, cdev_load, 0);
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The following reply was made to PR docs/16173; it has been noted by GNATS.
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Subject: Re: docs/16173: [PATCH] fix for the kld/cdev example
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Please note that my name is not "System Administrator" ;). Seems, like my first
try to use send-pr to submit report was only partially successful.
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From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai
To: Nik Clayton
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Subject: Re: Patches I have up my sleeve
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References: <19991218195612.A26001@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <19991219212411.B4452@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19991220070201.C35359@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <20000113005736.F8876@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <14461.62120.3444.73195V@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> <20000113185632.A679@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>
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-On [20000113 20:42], Nik Clayton (nik@freebsd.org) wrote:
>On Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 12:43:36AM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote:
>> From: Nik Clayton
>> I cannot agree to use automatic filter like this. I worry about
>> unexpected trouble. Is that enough to make these changes by hand?
I am still very much in doubt for this filter. To clarify, I am not
sure I ACK or NAK it.
>The issue with making the changes by hand is that if someone forgets,
>then you take a repository bloat hit as and when the problem is fixed.
A bit yes.
>Putting in this sort of filter fixes it before the file enters the
>repository, so there's no bloat.
Actually, we are trying to fix two things:
- badly set-up editors
- people whom don't verify for whitespace
And the fix is so simple:
perl -en 's/[\s\t]*$//;'
This will strip the file of all trailing whitespaces (space and tab) and
modify the file in place.
>Instead of making it a filter, it could just issue a (fatal) error, forcing
>the committer to fix it before they commit.
I am more in favor of this. But imagine this:
filter in place.
Jim Mock (as example since he's reworking the handbook) commits a large
section, he commits and kaboom, all whitespaces rectified amongst his
commit. This will make the translators very happy (not).
Also, he just wants to commit and worry about whitespace later then.
Bzzzt. You can't, commit_prep.pl won't allow it since you haven't
cleaned up the whitespace yet.
>> Should we care about this filter to describe topic like this thread?
>> (It must contain spaces only line in .)
>I can't think of any situations where something like
>
>The next line contains some spaces that are vitally important.
>
>
>
>would occur.
To second this, I have NEVER, EVER seen any programming language,
configuration file or other sort of text where _trailing_ whitespace was
important to keep around.
I always like to stand corrected though.
Given the reasons above I am leaning more and more towards NAK and have
committers actually take responsibility into their own hands by running
the perl line above.
Heck, if we want a filter, how about patching our .mk files to include a
target, make whitespace to get rid of them. [Or any other better
suitable make target name which covers the essence.]
I think we're trying to incorporate fixes for something which is
actually more and more a PEBKAC problem and should thus be solved at
that level.
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>Number: 16185
>Category: docs
>Synopsis: a possible typo in ipnat.5 manpage
>Confidential: no
>Severity: non-critical
>Priority: low
>Responsible: freebsd-doc
>State: open
>Quarter:
>Keywords:
>Date-Required:
>Class: doc-bug
>Submitter-Id: current-users
>Arrival-Date: Tue Jan 18 11:10:01 PST 2000
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator: Norihiro Kumagai
>Release: FreeBSD 4.0-20000105-CURRENT
>Organization:
FreeBSD Japanese Manual Translation Project
>Environment:
latest snapshot
>Description:
There are found commands in ....
I think the above phrase should be
There are four commands in ...
I have noticed that the number of the following commands is four.
>How-To-Repeat:
install, and type, "man 5 ipnat"
>Fix:
--- ipnat-en.5-org Tue Jan 18 16:57:36 2000
+++ ipnat-en.5 Wed Jan 19 03:59:22 2000
@@ -40,7 +40,7 @@
port number. Either TCP or UDP or both can be selected by each rule, with a
range of port numbers to remap into given as \fBport-number:port-number\fP.
.SH COMMANDS
-There are found commands recognised by IP Filter's NAT code:
+There are four commands recognised by IP Filter's NAT code:
.TP
.B map
that is used for mapping one address or network to another in an unregulated
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Hello! My name is Jerason Banes, a system administrator for Accelerated
Genetics out in Baraboo, WI. I am writing in regards to section 4 of the
FAQ (Commercial Applications). I've noticed that this was updated recently
to reflect the fact that Xi-Graphics no longer sells CDE for FreeBSD. The
alternative you list is KDE. Although KDE does have some of CDE's
qualities, it really is much more Windows 98ish than CDEish.
I would like to point out a window manager that I found in the
ports/packages collection. It is called XFCE. The author wrote it because
he was tired of how bloated all the window managers were getting. Oddly
enough, he choose to implement CDE's style. As a result, XFCE is very close
to what CDE is, and makes a fine replacement for it.
You can find XFCE listed at the bottom of the page at:
http://www.freebsd.org/ports/x11-wm.html
The homepage for the project is:
http://www.xfce.org
I must say, I've used it for about a month now, and found it to not only be
true to CDE's design, but also very lightweight, helpful, and useful. I
might even go as far as to suggest it as the default WM for FreeBSD. ;-)
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PR bin/15929 should be a doc PR, I've submitted a patch that the
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
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Subject: [RFC] please look at new ipfw manpage!
Hi,
yesterday i committed to -stable an improved version of dummynet,
which went into -current a few days ago. Because this involved
also some (backward compatible) modifications to ipfw and some
code cleanup there, i took the chance to work on the ipfw manpage
as well.
I would kindly ask people to download and look at the new manpage
for ipfw(8), which i have significantly reorganized, and tell me
whether or not it is sufficiently clear and possibly how it can be
improved.
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Please add me to your mailing list. My email address is mrtonytuch@aol.com.
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Hi,
You guys may have to veify the additions to the
gallery! I went there looking for a FreeBSD integrator
in Singapore and saw Aeon/XE Pte Ltd. I went to their
website, and saw that they're a completely Linux
organisation!
I guess they'll be people in the world who can
integrate both Linux and FreeBSD, but hey, I was very
dissapointed to visit the website and find Linux logos
there, and checking the OS of the machine found it was
all Linux.
I've since managed to find a company that does FreeBSD
well, but I really think you should check that the
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Hi again,
Is there a reason why the Singapore mirror of the
FreeBSD website is hosted in the US? It's even slower
than the real FreeBSD website! Now I don't bother
using the "local" mirror... always best to use the
main site, right?
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> Hi again,
>
> Is there a reason why the Singapore mirror of the
> FreeBSD website is hosted in the US?
I don't think we've found a local Singapore resource to host it at
yet.
- Jordan
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>Number: 16209
>Category: docs
>Synopsis: Bugs of opie.4
>Confidential: no
>Severity: non-critical
>Priority: high
>Responsible: freebsd-doc
>State: open
>Quarter:
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>Date-Required:
>Class: doc-bug
>Submitter-Id: current-users
>Arrival-Date: Wed Jan 19 12:00:00 PST 2000
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator: Tetsuro Furuya
>Release: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 and later
>Organization:
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>Environment:
man 4 opie,
compilation of c source including opie authentication.
>Description:
unseen statements,
error directives on c source.
>How-To-Repeat:
man 4 opie
>Fix:
Here is diff file to fix.
--- opie.4.orig Sat May 1 15:43:08 1999
+++ opie.4 Sat May 1 15:44:14 1999
@@ -211,17 +211,17 @@
.IR opiekey(1),
which is an OPIE key calculator.
-.LP ADDING OPIE TO OTHER PROGRAMS
+.SH ADDING OPIE TO OTHER PROGRAMS
Adding OPIE authentication to programs other than the ones included as clients
in the OPIE distribution isn't very difficult. First, you will need to make
sure that the program includes somewhere. Then, below the other
includes such as , but before variable declarations, you need to
-include "opie.h". You need to add a variable of type "struct opie" to your
+include . You need to add a variable of type "struct opie" to your
program, you need to make sure that the buffer that you use to get a password
from the user is big enough to hold OPIE_RESPONSE_MAX+1 characters, and you
need to have a buffer in which to store the challenge string that is big enough
-to hold OPIE_PROMPT_MAX+1 characters.
+to hold OPIE_CHALLENGE_MAX+1 characters.
.LP
When you are ready to output the challenge string and know the user's name,
you would use a call to opiechallenge. Later, to verify the response received,
@@ -253,13 +253,13 @@
.sp 0
struct opie opiedata;
.sp 0
- char opieprompt[OPIE_PROMPT_MAX+1];
+ char opieprompt[OPIE_CHALLENGE_MAX+1];
.sp 0
.
.sp 0
.
.sp 0
- opiechallenge(&opiedata, user_name, &opieprompt);
+ opiechallenge(&opiedata, user_name, opieprompt);
.sp 0
.
.sp 0
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Here's the latest batch of handbook related info. If I'm missing
anything (i.e., you're working on something and I don't have it listed
here, let me know).
Finished items
--------------
o Chapter 2, Installing FreeBSD
o Chapter 4, Ports Collection
o Chapter 15, PPPoE section
o Chapter 16, YP/NIS section (I'm going to try to commit this today)
o Chapter 17, Electronic Mail
Work in Progress
-----------------
o Chapter 1, Introduction - myself
o Chapter 6, Security - Bill Swingle
o Chapter 7, Printing - Joel Sutton
o Chapter 16, DHCP/dhclient section - Greg Sutter
o Chapter 16, DNS section - Nick Esborn
A few other things of note..
Chapter 16 of the Network Communications section will eventually be
renamed from 'Advanced Networking' to 'Other Services'. This chapter
will include the YP/NIS, DHCP, and DNS sections along with the existing
content of that chapter.
Neil Blakey-Milner is working on moving Chapter 12, PC
Hardware Compatibility, to the Appendix and convert the remaining
appendices to use the tag as they should, but aren't
currently.
If anyone else is interested in lending a hand, get in touch with me.
There's a range of things that can be done, which include anything from
going through completed and committed sections looking for blatant
errors or writing a missing section, so you don't have to be a good
writer in order to help out, you just need to be able to read :-)
- jim
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Jim Mock wrote:
> Here's the latest batch of handbook related info. If I'm missing
> anything (i.e., you're working on something and I don't have it listed
> here, let me know).
I would like to add my $0.02 in l10n area.
It's too early to start a Polish doc translation project,
but I think that we - and other "Latin 2" people - deserve
a decent handbook entry.
When I stared to work with existing Russian handbook entry,
I noticed that I only have to change locale names (from ru_RU
to pl_PL) and few details. I suppose that setup for Czech,
Slovak, Hungarian and other Central-Eastern Europe countries
is very similar, so one would write just a handbook entry about
general FreeBSD locale system and prepare set of tables
for Polish, Czech, Russian, etc. users. I think that other
ISO 8859-1, ISO 8859-5 etc. nations can also be included.
I have found some decent resources, like ISO 8859-2 page:
http://sizif.mf.uni-lj.si/linux/cee/iso8859-2.html (it's in English,
folks) and perhaps some notes for countries using ISO 8859-2 standard
can be useful.
Perhaps FreeBSD should have a generic "country" switch in rc.conf
allowing the user to load prepared and tested configuration
for his country (including font, keyboard, $LANG setup, etc.).
Anyway, is any reorganization of the l10n chapters planned?
Any volunteers to help?
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-On [20000120 02:50], Jim Mock (jim@luna.cdrom.com) wrote:
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>If anyone else is interested in lending a hand, get in touch with me.
>There's a range of things that can be done, which include anything from
>going through completed and committed sections looking for blatant
>errors or writing a missing section, so you don't have to be a good
>writer in order to help out, you just need to be able to read :-)
I am moving the tasks in the contributing section to the tasklist.html.
I think it is now safe to remove the tasks, since most are too old
anyways.
This means I'll be stripping a large part from:
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/contrib.html
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>Number: 16221
>Category: docs
>Synopsis: patch updates vidcontrol.1 to include new -M flag
>Confidential: no
>Severity: non-critical
>Priority: low
>Responsible: freebsd-doc
>State: open
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>Submitter-Id: current-users
>Arrival-Date: Thu Jan 20 08:40:01 PST 2000
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>Last-Modified:
>Originator: Kelly Yancey
>Release: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
>Description:
Recently Kazu added a new -M flag to vidcontrol to allow the selection
of the base character for rendering the mouse pointer. This patch
updates the vidcontrol man page to include mention of the new
flag.
Currently, this only applies to -current, but PR kern/15996 MFC's
the functionality to -stable. When that PR is closed, then this
patch can also be MFC'ed to -stable.
Here's a poem for FreeBSD
as it gets a little surgery.
A simple patch to make it better
and accurate down to the letter.
-Kelly
>How-To-Repeat:
>Fix:
--- vidcontrol.1.orig Wed Jan 19 23:00:58 2000
+++ vidcontrol.1 Wed Jan 19 23:10:39 2000
@@ -29,6 +29,7 @@
.Op Fl i Cm adapter | mode
.Op Fl l Ar screen_map
.Op Fl L
+.Op Fl M Ar char
.Op Fl m Cm on | off
.Op Fl r Ar foreground Ar background
.Op Fl s Ar number
@@ -122,6 +123,9 @@
Shows info about the current video adapter.
.It Fl i Cm mode
Shows the possible video modes with the current video hardware.
+.It Fl M Ar char
+Sets the base character used to render the mouse pointer to
+.Ar char .
.It Fl m Cm on | off
Switch the mouse pointer
.Cm on
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Do you know where any networking tutorials for BSD are? I didnt see one on your site, but I didnt look very hard either... If you could send me a link, that'd be cool, or if you could give me a little advice on the easiest (quickest) way to network my BSD machine. I am trying to get it to talk to my other Windows (yuck! ;] ) based machines so let me know if there is anything special I would need to do, or if it is even worth trying to network it with windows. I want to use it as an internet sharing machine, probably using squid. Eventually I will get a DSL or cable line and I want to be able to hook it into my BSD machine and use it kinda as a firewall and share the internet connection with the rest of the computers in my house. Thanks for the help!
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Will someone be updating the list on security/index.html to include the
latest security advisory?
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sorry to be a pest but i can't find the path anywhere to these two files.
kern.flp, mfsroot.flp
could you direct me to the correct ftp area to downloads them?
Thanks for a your hard work
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:12:36 -0800
From: Jim Mock
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 at 10:25:07 -0800, Me wrote:
> sorry to be a pest but i can't find the path anywhere to these two
> files. kern.flp, mfsroot.flp
>
> could you direct me to the correct ftp area to downloads them?
> Thanks for a your hard work
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/3.4-RELEASE/floppies/
I'll be adding this to the Installation section of the handbook shortly.
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>Number: 16286
>Category: docs
>Synopsis: URL update for FreeBSD Diary
>Confidential: no
>Severity: non-critical
>Priority: low
>Responsible: freebsd-doc
>State: open
>Quarter:
>Keywords:
>Date-Required:
>Class: doc-bug
>Submitter-Id: current-users
>Arrival-Date: Fri Jan 21 15:40:01 PST 2000
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator: Dan Langille
>Release: 3.3-stable
>Organization:
The FreeBSD Diary
>Environment:
>Description:
I've given the Diary it's own website. So I'm removing the
/freebsd/ directory from the URL
sgml patch provided.
>How-To-Repeat:
>Fix:
diff -r -u en/original/docs.sgml en/docs.sgml
--- en/original/docs.sgml Sat Jan 15 11:24:12 2000
+++ en/docs.sgml Sat Jan 15 11:25:25 2000
@@ -276,7 +276,7 @@
effort. The goals of the project are outlined here, as are the
procedures for submitting corrections and new material.
-