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Synopsis: spelling (Release Notes)

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Closed on originator's request.

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 6/11/00, 12:50:05 AM, Daniel Harris <dannyboy@subdimension.com> wrote=

regarding Re: docs/19186: Semi-overhaul docs.html:


> The following reply was made to PR docs/19186; it has been noted by
GNATS.

> From: Daniel Harris <dannyboy@subdimension.com>
> To: Mark Ovens <mark@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>
> Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: docs/19186: Semi-overhaul docs.html
> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 19:46:31 -0400

>  Mark Ovens wrote:
>  >
>  > On Sat, Jun 10, 2000 at 07:17:26PM -0400, Daniel Harris wrote:
>  > >
>  >
>  > [snip]
>  >
>  > > @@ -236,7 +229,7 @@
>  > >      <p>If you like reading BSD manuals online, here is a hyperte=
xt
version of
>  > >        the 4.4BSD documents from <a
>  > >       href=3D"file:/usr/share/doc">/usr/share/doc</a>, where you =
would
find
>  > > -      the documents on a FreeBSD machine (if the doc distributio=
n
was
>  > > +      the documents on a FreeBSD machine (if the doc distributio=
n
were
>  > >        installed).</p>
>  > >
>  > >        <a name=3D"info"></a>
>  > > @@ -246,7 +239,7 @@
>  > >      <p>If you like reading FreeBSD Info documents online, here i=
s a
hypertext
>  > >        version of the Info documents from <a
>  > >       href=3D"file:/usr/share/info">/usr/share/info</a>, where yo=
u
would find
>  > > -      the Info documents on a FreeBSD machine (if the info
distribution was
>  > > +      the Info documents on a FreeBSD machine (if the info
distribution were
>  > >        installed).</p>
>  > >
>  > >        <a name=3D"source"></a>
>  >
>  > Surely "was" is correct here? "distribution" is singular, you
wouldn't
>  > say "if it were installed" would you?
>  >
>  > --



Dear Daniel Harris,

I seem to understand that the verb "install", in the sentence with
past subjunctive ("if the doc distribution were installed"), is used
in the *perfective* sense: "installed" =3D "which was||has been
installed" {ie describing the resulting state AFTER the installation
process}, and which therefore IS [found] on the machine.

AFAICS, "perfective" verbs (such as "close") allow their past
participles to be used in order to describe the *state* resulting from
the action [having been performed]: "closed" =3D [which has/have been]
closed. Also, as an aside, this may engender ambiguity in some
sentences: state or action ?

Incidentally, I was thinking about another possibility:

[main clause in the Simple Present], where you would find <direct
object> (if the doc distribution **had** been installed).

I may be completely wrong (after all, I am Italian), but **if** the
above sentence were grammatically correct/acceptable, it would imply a
*dynamic* sense of the verb "install", and it would emphasize the idea
of completion. That is, the doc distribution having (first) been
installed {action in the past}, you will/would find ... (at a
subsequent/later time).

I am not quite sure at this very moment about the aforementioned
point: the (hypothetical) past perfect in my sentence might have
*other* undesired/undesirable connotations (e.g. no action
fulfilment).

I shall have to RFTM on that ...

Best regards,
Salvo





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How about just rewriting the whole sentence <g>... example for the
4.4Docs:

``
If you like to read BSD manuals online, here is a hypertext version of
the 4.4BSD documents from /usr/share/doc, where you will find the
documents on a FreeBSD machine (if you install the doc distribution).
''

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-On [20000610 21:28], Sugianto Yonatha (sugi@home.unpar.ac.id) wrote:
>On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote:
>> 
>> If it is ok with Nik I could do the same with the Indonesian translation
>> as I am doing with the Dutch one.  Simple create the directories in the
>> repository and commit any changes you get done for a day.  In order to
>> show more actively to the outworld and non-committers that work is
>> underway.
>> 
>> I already discussed the same with Alexander Langer about the German
>> translation project.
>> 
>Is this mean that I put my work on the CVS tree, still in sgml?

Yes, this means Alex and me can act as people who can commit these
documents for you.

Dutch uses nl_NL.ISO_8859-1, what does Indonesian use?

>Sorry for my late answer.

's ok.

-- 
Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven          Network- and systemadministrator
<jruigrok@via-net-works.nl>            VIA Net.Works The Netherlands
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 6/11/00, 3:24:27 PM, Daniel Harris <dannyboy@subdimension.com> wrote
regarding Re: docs/19186: Semi-overhaul docs.html:


> How about just rewriting the whole sentence <g>... example for the
> 4.4Docs:

> ``
> If you like to read BSD manuals online, here is a hypertext version of=

> the 4.4BSD documents from /usr/share/doc, where you will find the
> documents on a FreeBSD machine (if you install the doc distribution).
> ''


Sounds good :-)

The (compound) sentence is simple and "linear". The clause
introduced by where sounds (to me) as a coordinated main clause (where
you will find ... =3D and there you will find ...).

Others might probably prefer "if you have installed", but I am afraid
this is just a matter of taste.

I hope we have missed nothing else ...

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>Number:         19207
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       add anchor for IRC in www/en/support.sgml
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
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>Description:

	Give IRC an anchor to be consistent with all the other H2 sections.

	This document needs some work, especially the user-groups section,
	but that's for another day.

>How-To-Repeat:

	

>Fix:

	

--- support.sgml.orig	Sun Jun 11 19:26:02 2000
+++ support.sgml	Sun Jun 11 19:27:58 2000
@@ -11,6 +11,7 @@
     <ul>
       <li><a href="#mailing-list">Mailing lists</a></li>
       <li><a href="#newsgroups">Newsgroups</a></li>
+      <li><a href="#irc">IRC</a></li>
       <li><a href="#web">WEB Resources</a></li>
       <li><a href="#gnats">GNATS Problem Report Database</a></li>
       <li><a href="#cvs">CVS Repository</a></li>
@@ -123,6 +124,8 @@
     <p><a href="http://minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au/BSD-info/bsdnews_search.html">The
 	BSD Usenet News Searcher</a> have archives of all
       BSD-related Usenet newsgroups from June 1992 onwards.</p>
+      
+     <a name="irc"></a>
 
      <h2>IRC</h2>
      <p>While #freebsd channels exist on various IRC networks, the FreeBSD

>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:


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I am wondering if there is someplace online where I can download all the
docs and man files in a PDF format so I can print them at work.  I am
planning to build a FreeBSD workstation very soon and would like to read the
docs prior to attempting it. 

Thanks.

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On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote:

> Yes, this means Alex and me can act as people who can commit these
> documents for you.
> 
ooh, that's great :)
it'll help me a lot :))

> Dutch uses nl_NL.ISO_8859-1, what does Indonesian use?
> 
id_ID.ISO_8859-1, I think?

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On Sun, Jun 11, 2000 at 10:42:41PM -0500, Sadler, Brian wrote:
> I am wondering if there is someplace online where I can download all the
> docs and man files in a PDF format so I can print them at work.  I am
> planning to build a FreeBSD workstation very soon and would like to read the
> docs prior to attempting it. 

Hello!

You can get the most important docs from 

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/<your language>/

also in pdf format and in various other flavors. (Handbook, FAQ, etc)

They can also be viewed at http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html

The man pages are not available in pdf, but they can be viewed online on

http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html#man

I do not think there is an easy way to download them and print them just
like that, but it shouldn't be necessary either. By the time you need them,
they will be probably on your machine, if you select the "Doc" item during
the installation. (which I strongly advise you to do.)

If you still think you need them, many of them are printed in the book 

"The Complete FreeBSD" by Greg Lehey, available from all good bookstores and
from FreeBSD Mall (http://www.freebsdmall.com/)

And never forget, if you have problems with FreeBSD, the mailing list 

freebsd-questions@freebsd.org is there for you!

Wish you the best of luck and have fun with FreeBSD!

Regards:

Szilveszter ADAM
Szeged University
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The following reply was made to PR docs/18810; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: jpmg@eng.cam.ac.uk
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Subject: Re: docs/18810: Handbook 18.4.2 should refer to /etc/defaults/make.conf
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:02:34 +0100 (BST)

 > I suggest something different, such as:
 > 
 > Examine the file /etc/defaults/make.conf, which contains the default
 > defines for make which will be used when you rebuild your source.
 > They are also used every time you use make, so it is a good idea to
 > make sure they are set to something sensible for your system.
 > 
 > If you want to change one or more of the values that are used by make,
 > edit the file /etc/make.conf and add the variables with the new values
 > here. All variables, that are listed in /etc/make.conf overwrite the
 > default values found in /etc/defaults/make.conf.
 > 
 > For a typical user (not a FreeBSD developer), you will probably want
 > to use the CFLAGS and NOPROFILE lines.
 > 
 > Example: Add
 > 
 > NOPROFILE=true
 > 
 > to your /etc/make.conf file.
 
 Although I can see why you want to change it to that, I think that I
 disagree with it, since:
 
 1) the first paragraph of your suggestion implies (until one has read
    the next paragraph) that the place that one should "set the defines
    to something sensible for your system" is in /etc/defaults/make.conf ,
    since that's all that's been mentioned so far.
 
 2) /etc/defaults/make.conf contains very little that affects the
    behaviour of make, since it's all commented out.  As far as I can
    tell, it is there purely as a form of documentation of what might
    make sense to change.  This isn't what your version implies ...
 
 -patrick.
 


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-On [20000610 04:08], Eric Asa Buchanan (erking@concentric.net) wrote:
>I'm offering to help translate FreeBSD documentation, especially the
>installation instructions, into Spanish. I have really enjoyed using and
>learning FreeBSD, and have converted to using it 99%  of the time I am
>using a computer. My background is in Spanish translation, and normally
>I translate Spanish to English. I am a native English speaker, so it
>would be a good idea to ask a native Spanish speaker to proofread my
>work when I am done to make sure it sounds correct. I can also use a
>Spanish version of Solaris 8 to make sure that my work is using proper
>Spanish language computer related terminology.

You might do well to discuss this with Jesus Rodriguez [cc:'d].  I'm
sure he'd welcome extra help. =)

Good luck.

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I'll take a look at this.

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Where would you like this entry to appear?
In the FAQ?

However, please resubmit it as DocBook SGML, the HTML files are generated
automatically.
Please see the other .sgml-files for the FAQ to learn how. It's easy :)

Thanks!


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-On [20000612 07:50], Sugianto Yonatha (sugi@home.unpar.ac.id) wrote:
>On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote:
>
>> Yes, this means Alex and me can act as people who can commit these
>> documents for you.
>> 
>ooh, that's great :)
>it'll help me a lot :))

No problem.

>> Dutch uses nl_NL.ISO_8859-1, what does Indonesian use?
>> 
>id_ID.ISO_8859-1, I think?

Could it possibly be in_ID.ISO_8859-1?

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Committed by kevlo in rev. 1.2, thanks!

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-On [20000609 06:10], Chad Ziccardi (zicc@bellatlantic.net) wrote:
>FreeBSD <admin@ced.0418.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I have been a unix user for a long time now and wondering if you could maybe
>> give me some information. I am running a P500 1Gram and a
>> IBM deskstar 7200rpm with uldra dma 66. The Unix 4.0 releases only works with
>> uldra dma 33 disks. Soon "www.bredbandsbolaget.se" will offer me a high speed
>> connection at 10Mbps to be started then 100Mbps then 1000Mbps. The first think
>> i need to know is why FreeBSD isent supporting udma 66 or udma 100.

My deskstar works perfectly with the ATA driver using UDMA4 mode
[ATA/66].  ata(4) will tell you what controllers are supported and at
what speeds.  You might want to upgrade to 4.0-STABLE because Soren
committed some fixes in 4.0-S this weekend.

>FreeBSD 4.0 has ata/66 support.
>
>I think SUSE linux was the first OS/Distro to support ata/100, tho I don't
>know of any drives/ or motherboards that support this. Having your ata/66
>drive it can't run at ata/100 anyways, so that's not a concern.

We would've had it this weekend as well if Soren got his stuff on time.
Instead it will probably be in the tree this week.  And note that unlike
our Linux brethren I don't experience lock-ups with my ATA driver.

-- 
Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven          Network- and systemadministrator
<jruigrok@via-net-works.nl>            VIA Net.Works The Netherlands
BSD: Technical excellence at its best  http://www.via-net-works.nl
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From owner-freebsd-doc  Mon Jun 12  6:32:17 2000
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The following reply was made to PR docs/19186; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Daniel Harris <dannyboy@subdimension.com>
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Subject: Re: docs/19186: Semi-overhaul docs.html
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:29:03 -0400

 OK, I think I've solved (avoided) the problems with the was/were change
 by rewriting the paragraphs entirely.  I'm not sure just what I should
 do here -- a diff against the diff?
 
 To avoid clogging GNATS or diffing diffs, I've re-done the original
 diff, now at http://www.worksforfood.com/freebsd/docs.sgml.diff .
 
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Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote:
> 
> -On [20000609 06:10], Chad Ziccardi (zicc@bellatlantic.net) wrote:
> >FreeBSD <admin@ced.0418.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have been a unix user for a long time now and wondering if you could maybe
> >> give me some information. I am running a P500 1Gram and a
> >> IBM deskstar 7200rpm with uldra dma 66. The Unix 4.0 releases only works with
> >> uldra dma 33 disks. Soon "www.bredbandsbolaget.se" will offer me a high speed
> >> connection at 10Mbps to be started then 100Mbps then 1000Mbps. The first think
> >> i need to know is why FreeBSD isent supporting udma 66 or udma 100.
> 
> My deskstar works perfectly with the ATA driver using UDMA4 mode
> [ATA/66].  ata(4) will tell you what controllers are supported and at
> what speeds.  You might want to upgrade to 4.0-STABLE because Soren
> committed some fixes in 4.0-S this weekend.


I as well have perfectly behaving 4.0 & 4.0-S machines running ata/66.

The origional poster was the one having issues.


> >FreeBSD 4.0 has ata/66 support.
> >
> >I think SUSE linux was the first OS/Distro to support ata/100, tho I don't
> >know of any drives/ or motherboards that support this. Having your ata/66
> >drive it can't run at ata/100 anyways, so that's not a concern.
> 
> We would've had it this weekend as well if Soren got his stuff on time.
> Instead it will probably be in the tree this week.  And note that unlike
> our Linux brethren I don't experience lock-ups with my ATA driver.
> --

	I've never had problems with either really, tho I had only used ata/66
with RH for a few weeks. Never the less ata/100 isn't a big concern with me
for a long time, considering what I've read on the lists, about most
-drives- aren't fully supporting the ata/66 corretly.

--Chad Ziccardi


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jasone added sigwait.3 to HEAD on 2000/05/02.
What to do with it for RELENG_3 is his decision.

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I'll take a look at this one.

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From owner-freebsd-doc  Mon Jun 12  8:51:37 2000
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I'll take a look at this.
However, pointy head to Jim, who claimed, that this problem does not exist.
*veg* ;-)
(Pointy hat I mean)

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I'll take a look at this one.

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This does appy to HEAD, too.
I'll take this one

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Synopsis: extra reference in man page

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Closed on originators request.
Also, per request, smack the originator upside the head with the
clue-by-four. (I used quad-damage, btw) ;-)

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I'll take a look at this nice one.

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From owner-freebsd-doc  Mon Jun 12  9: 1:36 2000
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Trivial patch is mien
mine.
(using cat(1) here _does_ suck, steve, where are you?)

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From owner-freebsd-doc  Mon Jun 12  9: 6:48 2000
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Synopsis: getch ncurses man page confuses noecho and echo.

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I'd like to see that you backcontribute this to the ncurses authors, if
not already fixed.
We rarely change things in contrib/, and if, only in important cases.

Maybe it's already fixed in the original version.
Could you try to find that out? We can then import the vendor-fix, which
is much better.

Thanks!


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Mine!

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From owner-freebsd-doc  Mon Jun 12  9:38: 3 2000
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Let me look at this...

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From owner-freebsd-doc  Mon Jun 12  9:42: 1 2000
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Mine!

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From owner-freebsd-doc  Mon Jun 12  9:48:43 2000
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Mine!
However, we don't use two-spaces-after-comma.
The other fixes are fine :-)
(and this is a rhyme)
[argl]

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Mine!

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From owner-freebsd-doc  Mon Jun 12  9:59: 1 2000
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At the end of part 6.5.5 there is the following line:
Note: yppasswd is just a link to yppasswd. 

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Thus spake Ed Ryan (ryane@aasis.albany-academy.org):

> At the end of part 6.5.5 there is the following line:
> Note: yppasswd is just a link to yppasswd. 

Fixed after < 10 minutes.
I'm evil :)

Thanks!

Alex
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From owner-freebsd-doc  Mon Jun 12 10:47: 2 2000
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> We rarely change things in contrib/, and if, only in important cases.

> Maybe it's already fixed in the original version.
> Could you try to find that out? We can then import the vendor-fix, which
> is much better.

The original PR was cc'ed to the ncurses people. I recieved mail
from one of them (which unfortunately I've deleted now), saying
they'd corrected it in their version of ncurses. I'm not sure if
there has been any release in the mean time.

	David.


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Current FreeBSD problem reports

The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users.
These represent problem reports covering all versions including
experimental development code and obsolete releases.

Bugs can be in one of several states:

o - open
     A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed.

a - analyzed
     The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated.

f - feedback
     The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a
     patch or a fix has been committed.  The PR remains in this state
     pending a response from the originator.

s - suspended
     The problem is not being worked on.  This is a prime candidate
     for somebody who is looking for a project to do.
     If the problem cannot be solved at all,
     it will be closed, rather than suspended.

c - closed
     A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated,
     documented, and tested.

Critical problems
Serious problems

S  Submitted   Tracker     Resp.    Description
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o [2000/02/08] docs/16585  doc      no info documentation for nm (binutils) i

1 problem total.

Non-critical problems

S  Submitted   Tracker     Resp.    Description
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o [1999/04/07] docs/10997  doc      Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi
o [1999/08/28] docs/13441  doc      incorrect path in SGML_CATALOG_FILES env 
o [1999/09/25] docs/13950  doc      webpage idea
f [1999/09/29] docs/14035  doc      tzfile.h referenced in tzfile(5) doesn't 
o [1999/10/06] docs/14158  doc      md5(1) manpage should not claim the md5 a
o [1999/10/25] docs/14532  doc      Much of cam_cdbparse(3) prints in Courier
o [1999/10/27] docs/14563  doc      Wrong manpage produced by `man 4 fd'
o [1999/10/27] docs/14565  doc      ioctl() codes for device type `fd' (flopp
o [1999/11/03] docs/14682  doc      lprm(1) unaware of lp(1) Environment Vari
o [1999/12/10] docs/15408  doc      Description of ls and nlist wrong in man 
o [2000/01/04] docs/15890  doc      rfork(RFMEM) on SMP generates error
o [2000/02/23] docs/16934  doc      anon transfer log doesn't log all xfers
o [2000/03/18] docs/17470  doc      Missing man page: pthread_yield
f [2000/03/20] docs/17521  doc      Proposed FAQ on assembly programming
o [2000/03/25] docs/17598  doc      installworld over NFS documentation no lo
o [2000/04/03] docs/17780  doc      if they ask for smbmount, they want shari
o [2000/04/10] docs/17916  doc      [PATCH] rewrite of cutting-edge section o
o [2000/04/26] docs/18243  doc      wrong description of -p option in sh(1) m
o [2000/05/03] docs/18379  doc      Information on SSH hard to find in Handbo
o [2000/05/04] docs/18391  doc      Minor fixes to 3 web pages at www.freebsd
o [2000/05/12] docs/18520  doc      kbdcontrol manpage incomplete
o [2000/05/16] docs/18592  doc      amd(8) man page missing a line from SYNOP
o [2000/05/16] docs/18593  doc      VOP_LOOKUP is not a 'VFS entry point'
o [2000/05/19] docs/18674  doc      ntptime.htm and ntptime.8
o [2000/05/19] docs/18679  doc      Subject-Verb agreement in http://docs.Fre
f [2000/05/21] docs/18709  doc      getch ncurses man page confuses noecho an
o [2000/05/24] docs/18792  doc      date man page has misleading description 
o [2000/05/25] docs/18807  doc      No documentation for source upgrades
o [2000/05/25] docs/18810  doc      Handbook 18.4.2 should refer to /etc/defa
o [2000/05/26] docs/18832  doc      Update list of CVS/CVSup tags in handbook
o [2000/05/29] docs/18880  doc      date.1: merge in OpenBSD enhancements
o [2000/06/04] docs/18999  doc      http://www.FreeBSD.org/tutorials lacks co
o [2000/06/05] docs/19010  doc      Bad144 obsoletion by 4.0 is undocumented;
o [2000/06/06] docs/19074  doc      various rot in freebsd.org/where.html
o [2000/06/07] docs/19105  doc      Bridging chapter for FreeBSD manual
o [2000/06/09] docs/19163  doc      stf manual and kernel mismatch
o [2000/06/10] docs/19186  doc      Semi-overhaul docs.html
o [2000/06/10] docs/19189  doc      www/en/news/webchanges.sgml increasingly 

38 problems total.



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Dear Sirs,
I have been informed that from next Friday I will be using your OS. I =
have never used a Unix PC OS before. The only OS that I know how to =
navigate are Mac OS and Windows.

Does freeBSD have a windows style interface?
Is everything run in command prompt?
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but it looked a lot like Solaris' installation system which got me =
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I'm not much of a command promt user, but a great mouse on. woohoo...
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Hello!

On Tue, Jun 13, 2000 at 03:06:25AM +0900, lucky wrote:
> Dear Sirs,
> I have been informed that from next Friday I will be using your OS. I have never used a Unix PC OS before. The only OS that I know how to navigate are Mac OS and Windows.
> 
> Does freeBSD have a windows style interface?
> Is everything run in command prompt?
> I have to say, that your tutorials on line are the best tutorials I have seen for operating systems, but I'm not sure what I'm in for yet?
> Do you have any screen shots on-line?
> I saw the installation screen shots, which are very helpful by the way, but it looked a lot like Solaris' installation system which got me worried.
> I'm not much of a command promt user, but a great mouse on. woohoo...
> just kidding (sorry).
> 
> I will keep looking through your site and aj.com for more help on the matter, but if you have time can you let me know what sort of interface I have to look forward to. I have not seen anything other than command prompt style interfaces so far.
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Murray Phillips

Well, FreeBSD -unlike some other OSs, like Windows and MacOS- does not come
with a default GUI but you do not have to worry! This does not mean that you
will be forced to use a command prompt all the time. During FreeBSD install
you can choose a graphical interface from the several options, so you can
pick one that you like at first sight. Later, as you learn how to customise
them, you will find that almost any detail of the interface you do not like
can be changed. 

In the meantime, check out http://www.kde.org/
                           http://www.gnome.org/
                           http://www.enlightenment.org/
                           http://www.windowmaker.org/

for screenshots. This is because the graphical interface is not tied to the
OS on UNIX type systems, so if you learn how to navigate them, your
knowledge is easily portable to other systems using the same user interface.

So this way you can decide beforehand, which of the above you prefer
out-of-the-box and you just choose the appropriate one during install.

The installation procedure itself (save for the first steps) uses a simple
but (IMHO) understandable interface which has the advantage that you can get
your system up-and-running quickly even if you have problems say with video
card or mouse, unlike in windows, where these problems are stoppers in
install. (I never installed a Mac, sorry.)

Also, to know more, you should access the Handbook online at:

http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ 

It even has a section about the "12. X Window System" which tells you the way
the graphical interface works on UNIX-type systems, if you want to know
more. In short: The so-called X windows system is the interface that gives
you graphical mode, the various so-called window managers (like the ones I
mentioned above, Gnome, KDE etc) all work on top of this. In Windows (and
also MacOS unless I am mistaken) these elements are all integrated into one
and are part of the OS so it is not easy to change them even if you want
this.

Also, if you have problems with your FreeBSD system, remeber, that you will
have the most important documents (like the Handbook, FAQ) on your machine
if you choose to install the "Doc" distribution, which is strongly advised.
The manual system also gives a lot of helpful info, if you do not know how
to use a command, you just type 'man <command name>' and there are good
chances you will see the info.

And remember, if you have problems with FreeBSD, there is always the mailing
list

freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

where it probably will be answered.

Good luck with FreeBSD, there is no need to be afraid.

Welcome aboard!

Regards:

Szilveszter ADAM
Szeged University
Szeged Hungary


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Committed, thanks!

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The following reply was made to PR docs/19189; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Jim Mock <jim@FreeBSD.org>
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 > What the Synopsis says.  This file hasn't been touched since 9th Jan
 > of this year and hasn't been actually updated since December.
 > 
 > Fix
 > 
 >     A couple options:
 > 
 >         a) Pore over cvs stuff and update/maintain this page.
 >         b) (more attractive) Nuke this file and the link to it from
 >            the index page.
 
 I vote for (b) -- if people are really interested in what's changed, the
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 or I'd choose (a) and volunteer to do it :-)
 
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Thus spake Jim Mock (jim@FreeBSD.ORG):

>  Opinions?

I agree.

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A further question: Can't webchanges be a file generated by the
CVS-Logs?

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These are all in section 8.2 Introduction.
In the second paragraph, third sentace, the word "interfere" is misspelled
as "interefere".
In the seventh paragraph, the third sentace is broken in a way I can't
readilyt describe. It looks like it was accidentally merged with another
sentance. In the fourth sentance, the word "convenient" is misspelled as
"convienient", and in the last line of the paragraph, there is a redundant
"in".

This is fun :D

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On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 at 17:22:02 -0400, Ed Ryan wrote:
> These are all in section 8.2 Introduction.
> In the second paragraph, third sentace, the word "interfere" is
> misspelled as "interefere".
> In the seventh paragraph, the third sentace is broken in a way I
> can't readilyt describe. It looks like it was accidentally merged with
> another sentance. In the fourth sentance, the word "convenient" is
> misspelled as "convienient", and in the last line of the paragraph,
> there is a redundant "in".

Thanks.  I'm working on fixing these now, and will be committing them in
a few minutes.

> This is fun :D

:-)

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In section 9.1, first paragraph, last line, "its" has an apostrophe that
doesn't belong.
In section 9.3.1, second paragraph, "Interfaces" is misspelled as
"Interaces".

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On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 at 21:40:05 -0400, Ed Ryan wrote:
> In section 9.1, first paragraph, last line, "its" has an apostrophe
> that doesn't belong.
> In section 9.3.1, second paragraph, "Interfaces" is misspelled as
> "Interaces".

Thanks, I just committed these.  In the future, would it be possible for
you to submit these as PRs?  It makes it easier for us to keep track of
the stuff.

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>Number:         19233
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [PATCH] Section about refuse files added to CVSup section
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Mon Jun 12 21:30:00 PDT 2000
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Eric Ogren
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386
>Organization:
>Environment:

Doc repository was CVSup'd and cvs update'd 10 minutes ago.

>Description:

 After reading -questions, -stable, and -current, I noticed that
there are a lot of people who don't know about the refuse file
functionality in CVSup; a section in the CVSup part of
the handbook (A.3) is probably worthwhile.

>How-To-Repeat:

n/a

>Fix:

Apply the following patch:

Index: chapter.sgml
===================================================================
RCS file: /usr/local/doctree/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml,v
retrieving revision 1.68
diff -u -r1.68 chapter.sgml
--- chapter.sgml	2000/06/09 22:54:37	1.68
+++ chapter.sgml	2000/06/13 04:17:50
@@ -1753,6 +1753,72 @@
 cvs-crypto</programlisting>
 	</listitem>
       </itemizedlist>
+      <sect3>
+       <title>The refuse file</title>
+
+       <para>As mentioned above, <application>CVSup</application> uses
+       a <emphasis>pull method</emphasis>. Basically, this means that
+       you connect to the <application>CVSup</application> server, and
+       it says, <quote>Here's what you can download from
+       me...</quote>, and your client responds <quote>OK, I'll take
+       this, this, this, and this.</quote> In the default
+       configuration, the <application>CVSup</application> client will
+       take every file associated with the collection and tag you
+       chose in the configuration file. However, this is not always
+       what you want, especially if you are synching the doc, ports, or
+       www trees &mdash; most people can't read four or five
+       languages, and therefore they don't need to download the
+       language-specific files. If you are
+       <application>CVSup</application>ing the ports collection, you
+       can get around this by specifying each collection individually
+       (eg <emphasis>ports-astrology</emphasis>,
+       <emphasis>ports-biology</emphasis>, etc instead of simply
+       saying <emphasis>ports-all</emphasis>). However, since the doc
+       and www trees do not have language-specific collections, you
+       must use one of <application>CVSup</application>'s many nify
+       features; the <emphasis>refuse file</emphasis>.</para>
+
+       <para>The <emphasis>refuse file</emphasis> essentially tells
+       <application>CVSup</application> that it should not take every
+       single file from a collection; in other words, it tells the
+       client to <emphasis>refuse</emphasis> certain files from the
+       server. The refuse file can be found (or, if you do not yet
+       have one, should be placed) in
+       <filename><replaceable>base</replaceable>/sup/refuse</filename>.
+       <replaceable>base</replaceable> is defined in your supfile; by
+       default, <replaceable>base</replaceable> is
+       <filename>/usr/sup</filename>, which means that by default the
+       refuse file is in <filename>/usr/sup/refuse</filename>.</para>
+
+       <para>The refuse file has a very simple format; it simply
+       contains the names of files or directories that you do not wish
+       to to download. For example, since I cannot speak any languages
+       except for English and some German, and I do not feel the need
+       to use German applications, I have the following in my
+       <emphasis>refuse file</emphasis>:</para>
+
+       <screen>
+       ports/chinese
+       ports/german
+       ports/japanese
+       ports/korean
+       ports/russian
+       ports/vietnamese
+       doc/es_ES.ISO_8859-1
+       doc/ja_JP.eucJP</screen>
+
+       <para>and so forth for the other languages. Note that the name
+       of the repository is the first <quote>directory</quote> in the
+       <emphasis>refuse file</emphasis>.</para>
+
+       <para>With this very useful feature, those users who are on
+       slow links or pay by the minute for their Internet connection
+       will be able to save valuable time as they will no longer need
+       to download files that they will never use. For more
+       information on <emphasis>refuse files</emphasis> and other neat
+       features of <application>CVSup</application>, please view its
+       manpage.</para> 
+      </sect3>
     </sect2>
     
     <sect2>


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Synopsis: no info documentation for nm (binutils) is included

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I have a patch to do this, awaiting obrien's approval.

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Properbly close this PR.
Committed, thanks!

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alex@FreeBSD.org wrote:
> 
> Synopsis: Proposed FAQ on assembly programming
> 
> State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback
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> Where would you like this entry to appear?
> In the FAQ?

I think somewhere in the FAQ would be appropriate.
 
> However, please resubmit it as DocBook SGML, the HTML files are generated
> automatically.
> Please see the other .sgml-files for the FAQ to learn how. It's easy :)

I haven't yet installed DocBook, or the documentation source.  Can bits
of the source be downloaded individually, or do I have to cvsup the
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Thus spake Thomas M. Sommers (tms2@mail.ptd.net):

> > Please see the other .sgml-files for the FAQ to learn how. It's easy :)
> I haven't yet installed DocBook, or the documentation source.  Can bits
> of the source be downloaded individually, or do I have to cvsup the
> whole shebang?

I'll send you per private mail the faq-SGML file

Alex
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In case you can't tell from my PR, I prefer b -- although I like the
idea of having the link point to an automatically generated page with
the cvs commit logs.

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  Are there any plans to replace the ASCII art in the FreeBSD Handbook
with simple xfig diagrams?  The ASCII looks really out of place in the
printed (PostScript) version of the handbook that was recently
published.  
  With a few simple changes to the makefile and freebsd.dsl we could
pass a variable with the -V option to [Open]Jade and let the DSSSL code
decide whether to display the graphic (HTML or PostScript output) or the
ASCII figure (Text output).
  Does this sounds like a logical way to solve the problem?  I can
provide diffs if someone isn't already working on this.  We could pay
interns here at BSDI to actually make the graphics.

	- Murray



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I just converted a fairly large LinuxBook SGML document to
DocBook,  using the Brute Force and Massive Ignorance approach.

Strangely enough, it went pretty smoothly.  However,
I have run into a couple of problems,  that probably have
answers,  but I have not been able to find them on this list.

I will summarize them,  and perhaps this might actually get put into
the DocProj Primer (hint hint) someday.

1.  Deeper TOC Listings for HTML Output

    Right now the TOC only does two levels of listing.  I would
    like to increase the depth.  How do I do this?
    NOW                     WANT

    main                    main
     main.1                  main.1
      main.1.1                main.1.1
       main.1.1.1              main.1.1.1
       main.1.1.2              main.1.1.2
     main.2                   main.2
      main.2.1                 main.2.1                   

     ...

2.  How Do I Produce an Index?  I would like to do this
    for both HTML and PS output,  but I would be happy
    with just PS output.
    a) the markup notation in the body
    b) the jade + tex + tools to use

3.  How Do I Produce an Glossary?  I would like to do this
    for both HTML and PS output,  but I would be happy
    with just PS output.
    a) the markup notation in the body
    b) the jade + tex + tools to use

4.  The current tex output numbers pages,  but does not do it
    correctly.
                             Now          Should Be
    Title Page                                        (Correct - no number)
    Dedication               2               i
    Preface...               3-...           ii-...

    Part1                    n               1

    I KNOW just KNOW that there is a way to do this,  and I am going to
    probably hit myself with a dope slap when somebody tells me.

5.  I have tried to put images into the HTML and TeX / PS format.
    Other people have done it.
    a) What is the magic markup I need
    b) How do I convince the tex stuff to FIND the file containing the
       graphic?  I keep thinking that I did this a LOooonnng time ago,
       with a graphic tool,  but this was using latex and some macros,
       and it is long gone from my memory and archives.


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Murray Stokely wrote:

>   Are there any plans to replace the ASCII art in the FreeBSD Handbook
> with simple xfig diagrams?  The ASCII looks really out of place in the
> printed (PostScript) version of the handbook that was recently
> published. =20
>   With a few simple changes to the makefile and freebsd.dsl we could
> pass a variable with the -V option to [Open]Jade and let the DSSSL code
> decide whether to display the graphic (HTML or PostScript output) or the
> ASCII figure (Text output).
>   Does this sounds like a logical way to solve the problem?  I can
> provide diffs if someone isn't already working on this.  We could pay
> interns here at BSDI to actually make the graphics.

I think Nik was looking at how to best incorporate graphics in the doc
tree, you might like to talk to him about it.

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On Mon, Jun 12, 2000 at 09:59:48PM +0200, Alexander Langer wrote:
> A further question: Can't webchanges be a file generated by the
> CVS-Logs?

Yes.  I've got part way through a script that does this.  Go back through
the -doc archives for a message from me that talks about cvs2cl.  If you
(or anyone else) wants to pick up on this, please do.

N
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On Sat, Jun 10, 2000 at 07:43:20AM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> I think this is all an excellent project and look forward to
> incorporating your work into the installation when the time comes.
> This comes at a particularly advantageous time as I'm also
> working with the Japanese developers on bringing in their
> translations and the framework we're building will handle 3
> languages just as easily as it will 2.

Have you got more details about this framework?

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On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 09:10:45AM +0300, Alexey Zelkin wrote:
> Looks like you forgot to commit www/en/conspectus/Makefile.inc. Take a look
> on any directory which contains this file for example.

I did.  Because I'd assumed that as "make install" descends the directory
tree it modifies DESTDIR as appropriate.  It doesn't.  However, for some
reason it does modify a DIRPRFX variable.

It's on the list of things to look at (and possibly fix).  Thoughts?

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We're still figuring it out. :)  Details will provided when available.

- Jordan

> On Sat, Jun 10, 2000 at 07:43:20AM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> > I think this is all an excellent project and look forward to
> > incorporating your work into the installation when the time comes.
> > This comes at a particularly advantageous time as I'm also
> > working with the Japanese developers on bringing in their
> > translations and the framework we're building will handle 3
> > languages just as easily as it will 2.
> 
> Have you got more details about this framework?
> 
> N
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> 
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Hi,

FreeBSD Multilingual Installer Boot-FD page is:
    http://www.jp.FreeBSD.org/BootAsia/

Currently, it is available only for FreeBSD 3.X-RELEASE.
For 5-current and 4-stable, it is still at working.

"Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>wrote:
> We're still figuring it out. :)  Details will provided when available.
> 
> - Jordan
> 
> > On Sat, Jun 10, 2000 at 07:43:20AM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> > > I think this is all an excellent project and look forward to
> > > incorporating your work into the installation when the time comes.
> > > This comes at a particularly advantageous time as I'm also
> > > working with the Japanese developers on bringing in their
> > > translations and the framework we're building will handle 3
> > > languages just as easily as it will 2.
> > 
> > Have you got more details about this framework?

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From owner-freebsd-doc  Tue Jun 13 19:49:37 2000
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From: Jonathan Michaels <jon@welearn.com.au>
To: Murray Stokely <murray@cdrom.com>
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On Tue, Jun 13, 2000 at 12:23:32PM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote:
>   Are there any plans to replace the ASCII art in the FreeBSD Handbook
> with simple xfig diagrams?  The ASCII looks really out of place in the
> printed (PostScript) version of the handbook that was recently
> published.  
>   With a few simple changes to the makefile and freebsd.dsl we could
> pass a variable with the -V option to [Open]Jade and let the DSSSL code
> decide whether to display the graphic (HTML or PostScript output) or the
> ASCII figure (Text output).

>   Does this sounds like a logical way to solve the problem? 

not if thier is not a problem .. lots of people still use text
only consoles. so if your plan is to add functionality, as in
make the new 'artwork' a part of teh pdf and or ps editions
while still leaving the 'ascii art' in the html and ascii
(latin?) text versions of the document.

ok, but if you plan to replace teh 'ascii art' then i don't
think it is a good idea, because it is one step closer to teh
eventual microsoftisation of freebsd, as i tried to explain the
last time a similar issue riased its head.

as i tried to say last time, not every one uses or has access
to the latestest greatest in hardware or has human bodies that
lack 'deficiencies' .. we make do with waht we have.

what i am trying to say is that we shold always takin to
concideration that apart from teh "highend" graphics workstaon
user thier are a significant number of people (endusers) who
use text only consoles for reasons that are important to then,
in order to minimise the impact on them and to keep them as
users we should alsway include thier point of view in teh so
called upgrading of the tools and other paraphenalia that we
supply under the freebsd banner.

just becaue i use a i386dx33 with 8 mb dram, 345 mb esdi hard
drive and a text only console display i don't assume that every
body else in teh universe uses the same .. so, when a person
has an all teh bells and whistles 'workstation' they also
should not assume that every one else in teh universe is
simillarly endowed. unix has always been an everymans toolbox,
not a technical tour de force available to those who can afford
teh entry price .. or so has been my understanding, of cource i
could have been wrong.

<apology in advance> 
i am sorry, but, i don't know how else to say what i am trying
to say, while not getting jumped on by the lurking bigots and
nacent 'thought police' that are an ever increasing part of teh
population in mailling lists these days.
</apology in advance>

regards and with apologies to those who might need one.

jonathan, resident dinosaur.

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>Number:         19260
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       There's no documentation for the files kbdcontrol can load.
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Wed Jun 14 05:30:00 PDT 2000
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     David Malone
>Release:        FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386
>Organization:
School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
>Environment:

2.1 and later, as far as I can tell.

>Description:

While trying to figure out if you can have a "halt" key as well as
a "reboot" key I noticed there is no man page describing the keymap
files which kbdcontrol loads.  This is actually noted in
usr.sbin/kbdmap/TODO (dated 95/04/03) saying refering to kbdmap.5.
There is also a reference at the bottom of the syscons man page to
keymap(5), which doesn't exist.

>How-To-Repeat:

man 5 kbdmap
man 5 keymap

>Fix:
	
I wrote the following man page based on the 5.X version of kbdcontrol
and reading the source for syscons and kbd to figure out what was
going on. I guess it should probably go in share/man/man5 or
usr.sbin/kbdcontrol. I've written it as kbdmap(5), but it would
probably be worth having it also available as keymap(5).

People who understand mdoc will probably want to read over it to make
sure it's OK. My spelling sucks too, but I've run it throug a spell
checker, so it shouldn't be too bad.


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.Dd June 14, 2000
.Dt KBDMAP 5
.Os FreeBSD
.Sh NAME
.Nm kbdmap
.Nd keyboard map file format for kbdcontrol
.Sh DESCRIPTION
A
.Nm kbdmap
file describes how the keys on a keyboard should behave. These
files can be loaded using
.Xr kbdcontrol 1 ,
or
.Xr kbdmap 1
can be used to select one of the default
.Nm kbdmap
files interactively.
A
.Nm kbdmap
file can be specified in
.Xr rc.conf 5
to be loaded at boot time. The current keymap may also be printed
using
.Xr kbdcontrol.
.Pp
Each line in the file can describe a key or an accent. A # character
begins a comment, which extends to the end of the line.
.Pp
The description
of a key begins with the scancode for that key. Then the effect of the
key under combinations of shift, control and alt are listed in the
following order: no modifier, shift, control, control and shift, alt,
alt and shift, alt and control, alt and control and shift. The action
of the key under each modifier can be:
.Bl -tag -width Ar
.It Ar 'symbol'
The symbol the key should produce, in single quotes.
.It Ar number
The ASCII value to produce as a decimal number. For example 32 for space.
.It Ar 0xhexnum
The ASCII value to produce as a hexadecimal number. For example 0x20 for space.
.It Ar ctrlname
One of the standard names for the ASCII control characters: nul,
soh, stx, etx, eot, enq, ack, bel, bs, ht, nl, vt, np, cr, so, si,
dle, dc1 , dc2, dc3, dc4, nak, syn, etb, can, em, sub, esc, fs,
gs, rs, ns, us, sp, del.
.It Ar accentname
By giving one of the accent names, the next key pressed will produce
an accented character in accordance with that accent. See the
description of accents below. The accent names are: dgra, dacu,
dcir, dtil, dmac, dbre, ddot, duml, ddia, dsla, drin, dced, dapo,
ddac, dogo, dcar.
.It Ar fkeyN
Act as the the Nth function key, where N is a decimal number.
.It Ar lshift 
Act as left shift key.
.It Ar rshift 
Act as right shift key.
.It Ar clock 
Act as caps lock key.
.It Ar nlock 
Act as num lock key.
.It Ar slock 
Act as scroll lock key.
.It Ar lalt|alt 
Act as left alt key.
.It Ar btab 
Act as backwards tab.
.It Ar lctrl|ctrl 
Act as left control key.
.It Ar rctrl 
Act as right control key.
.It Ar ralt 
Act as right alt (altgr) key.
.It Ar alock 
Act as alt lock key.
.It Ar ashift 
Act as alt shift key.
.It Ar meta 
Act as meta key.
.It Ar lshifta|shifta 
Act as left shift key / alt lock.
.It Ar rshifta 
Act as right shift key / alt lock.
.It Ar lctrla|ctrla 
Act as left ctrl key / alt lock.
.It Ar rctrla 
Act as right ctrl key / alt lock.
.It Ar lalta|alta 
Act as left alt key / alt lock.
.It Ar ralta 
Act as right alt key / alt lock.
.It Ar nscr 
Act as switch to next screen.
.It Ar pscr 
Act as switch to previous screen.
.It Ar scrN
switch to screen N, where N is a decimal number.
.It Ar boot 
Reboot machine.
.It Ar debug 
Call the debugger.
.It Ar susp 
Use APM to suspend power.
.It Ar saver 
Activate screen saver by toggling between splash/text screen.
.It Ar panic 
Panic the system.
.El
.Pp
Finally, to complete the description of a key, a flag which describes
the effect of caps lock and num lock on that key is given. The flag can
be
.Ql C
to indicate caps lock effects the key,
.Ql N
to indicate that num lock effects the key,
.Ql B
to indicate both caps lock and num lock effect the key
or
.Ql O
to indicate neither effect the key.
.Pp
An accent key works works by modifying the behavior of the next key
pressed.  The description of an accent begins with one of the accent
names given above.  This is followed by the symbol for the accent,
given in single quotes or as a decimal or hexadecimal ascii value.
This symbol will be produced if the accent key is pressed and then
the space key is pressed.
.Pp
The description of the accent key continues with a list showing
how it modifies various symbols, by giving pairs giving the normal
symbol and the modified symbol enclosed in parentheses. Both symbols
can be given in single quotes or as decimal or hexadecimal ascii values.
.Pp
For example, the following extract from a
.Nm kbdmap :
.Bd -literal -offset indent
  041   dgra   172    nop    nop    '|'    '|'    nop    nop     O
  dgra  '`'  ( 'a' 224 ) ( 'A' 192 ) ( 'e' 232 ) ( 'E' 200 )
             ( 'i' 236 ) ( 'I' 204 ) ( 'o' 242 ) ( 'O' 210 )
             ( 'u' 249 ) ( 'U' 217 )
.Ed
configures the backtick key on a UK keyboard to act as a grave accent
key. Pressing backtick followed by space produces a backtick, and
pressing a backtick followed by a vowel produces the ISO-8859-1 symbol
for that vowel with a grave accent.
.Sh FILES
.Bl -tag -width /usr/share/syscons/keymaps/* -compact
.It Pa /usr/share/syscons/keymaps/*

standard keyboard map files
.El
.Sh SEE ALSO
.Xr kbdcontrol 1 ,
.Xr kbdmap 1 ,
.Xr keyboard 4 ,
.Xr syscons 4 ,
.Xr ascii 7
.Sh HISTORY
This man page first appeared in
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-On [20000613 11:34], alex@FreeBSD.ORG (alex@FreeBSD.ORG) wrote:
>Synopsis: [PATCH] Section about refuse files added to CVSup section
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>Properbly close this PR.
>Committed, thanks!

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State-Changed-By: kevlo                                                                             
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Cute.

I see that we are being very active here. =)

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Synopsis: There's no documentation for the files kbdcontrol can load.

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I'll take this up.

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Synopsis: FreeBSD Related Publications in Korea

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I would have loved to make changes/add these publications to the 
publications list. However, the originator (not wosch, the one, who wrote
the mail to wosch) is not able to tell me, what kind of publications
these are, not even a title or something.

Since I don't speak Korean (?), I leave this open for a committer who actually
does. Hopefully, there is one.

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>Number:         19261
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Nits in handbook chapter 1
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Wed Jun 14 07:30:01 PDT 2000
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Daniel Harris
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386
>Organization:
>Environment:

	

>Description:

	Nits in chapter 1 of the handbook, including comma nits, rewording nits,
	an URL nit, and other exciting nits.

>How-To-Repeat:

	Read Chapter 1 and look for trivial nits.  Find these.

>Fix:

	

--- chapter.sgml.orig	Wed Jun 14 10:09:46 2000
+++ chapter.sgml	Wed Jun 14 10:11:57 2000
@@ -113,9 +113,9 @@
       
 	<listitem>
 	  <para>Strong <emphasis>TCP/IP networking</emphasis> with
-	    support for industry standards such as SLIP, PPP, NFS, DHCP
-	    and NIS support.  This means that your FreeBSD machine can
-	    inter-operate easily with other systems as well act as an
+	    support for industry standards such as SLIP, PPP, NFS, DHCP,
+	    and NIS.  This means that your FreeBSD machine can
+	    inter-operate easily with other systems as well as act as an
 	    enterprise server, providing vital functions such as NFS
 	    (remote file access) and e-mail services or putting your
 	    organization on the Internet with WWW, FTP, routing and
@@ -186,7 +186,7 @@
 	<listitem>
 	  <para><emphasis>Source code</emphasis> for the entire system
 	    means you have the greatest degree of control over your
-	    environment.  Why be locked into a proprietary solution and
+	    environment.  Why be locked into a proprietary solution
 	    at the mercy of your vendor when you can have a truly Open
 	    System?</para>
 	</listitem>
@@ -499,7 +499,7 @@
 
 	  <listitem>
 	    <para>The central source tree for FreeBSD is maintained by
-	      <ulink url="http://www.cyclic.com/cyclic-pages/CVS-sheet.html">CVS</ulink>
+	      <ulink url="http://www.cyclic.com/CVS/index_html">CVS</ulink>
 	      (Concurrent Version System), a freely available source code
 	      control tool that comes bundled with FreeBSD.  The primary
 	      <ulink url="http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi">CVS
@@ -628,7 +628,7 @@
         and server support, transaction TCP support, dial-on-demand PPP,
         integrated DHCP support, an improved SCSI subsystem, ISDN support,
         support for ATM, FDDI, Fast and Gigabit Ethernet (1000Mbit)
-        adapters, improved support for the latest Adaptec controllers and
+        adapters, improved support for the latest Adaptec controllers, and
         many hundreds of bug fixes.</para>
 
       <para>We have also taken the comments and suggestions of many of our
@@ -637,13 +637,13 @@
         this (constantly evolving) process is especially welcome!</para>
 
       <para>In addition to the base distributions, FreeBSD offers a
-        ported software collection with hundreds of commonly sought-after
+        ported software collection with thousands of commonly sought-after
         programs.  By mid-January 2000, there were nearly 3000 ports!  The
         list of ports ranges from http (WWW) servers, to games, languages,
-        editors and almost everything in between.  The entire ports
+        editors, and almost everything in between.  The entire ports
         collection requires approximately 50MB of storage, all ports being
         expressed as <quote>deltas</quote> to their original sources.  This
-        makes  it much easier for us to update ports, and greatly reduces
+        makes it much easier for us to update ports, and greatly reduces
         the disk space demands made by the older 1.0 ports collection.  To
         compile a port, you simply change to the directory of the program
         you wish to install, type <command>make install</command>, and let
@@ -682,7 +682,7 @@
         </varlistentry>
       </variablelist>
     
-      <para>You can also visit the master (and most frequently updated)
+      <para>You can also view the master (and most frequently updated)
         copies at <ulink
 	url="http://www.FreeBSD.org/">http://www.FreeBSD.org/</ulink>.</para>
 
@@ -692,15 +692,15 @@
         States, which contains the programs that normally use DES.  The
         auxiliary packages provided separately can be used by anyone.  A
         freely (from outside the U.S.) exportable European distribution of
-        DES for our non-U.S.  users also exists and is described in the
+        DES for our non-U.S. users also exists and is described in the
         <ulink url="../FAQ/FAQ.html">FreeBSD FAQ</ulink>.</para>
 
       <para>If password security for FreeBSD is all you need, and you have
         no requirement for copying encrypted passwords from different hosts
         (Suns, DEC machines, etc) into FreeBSD password entries, then
         FreeBSD's MD5 based security may be all you require!  We feel that
-        our default security model is more than a match for DES, and without
-        any messy export issues to deal with.  If you are outside (or even
+        our default security model is more than a match for DES, and avoids
+        dealing with any messy export issues.  If you are outside (or even
         inside) the U.S., give it a try!</para>
     </sect2>
   </sect1>

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>Number:         19262
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Is fsync.2 NAME section wrong?
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
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>State:          open
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>Originator:     NOKUBI Hirotaka
>Release:        FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386
>Organization:
>Environment:

	FreeBSD fifthluna.nokubi.or.jp 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE #13: Mon Jan 31 00:17:41 JST 2000     root@sassaby.nokubi.or.jp:/usr/src/sys/compile/FIFTHLUNA  i386

>Description:

	Because I'm not native English speaker, I'm not sure about this.
	But I have strange feeling about fsync.2 and sync.2 NAME section.
	They say like this:
	  fsync - synchronize a file's in-core state with that on disk
	  sync - synchronize disk block in-core status with that on disk

	I think that fsync(2) and sync(2) write changes from memory to disk.
	But these sentences make me feel like that they read from disk
	to memory and discard changes.

	If it's my misunderstanding, please forget about this PR.

>How-To-Repeat:

	man 2 fsync
	man 2 sync

>Fix:
	
	SUSV2 saids like this:
	  fsync - synchronise changes to a file
	  sync - schedule filesystem updates


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>Number:         19263
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Please update vfork.2
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
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>Organization:
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	FreeBSD fifthluna.nokubi.or.jp 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE #13: Mon Jan 31 00:17:41 JST 2000     root@sassaby.nokubi.or.jp:/usr/src/sys/compile/FIFTHLUNA  i386

>Description:

	When I was making preparation for writing article, I found that
	vfork.2 HISTORY section seems to be wrong. According to
	The Design and Implementation of the 4.3BSD, vfork(2) was
	implemented to 4.2BSD which was released 1984. So, it's
	peculiar to say it's appeared in 3.0BSD which was released 1979.
	NetBSD and OpenBSD's vfork.2 said it's appeared in 2.9BSD.
	It's reasonable.

>How-To-Repeat:

	man 2 vfork

>Fix:
	
	NetBSD and OpenBSD have already fixed this.
	Please import their fixes.


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>Number:         19267
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Spelling and nits, chapter 9 fdp-primer
>Confidential:   no
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>Description:

	In no significant order:	
	s/seperate/separate
	Add missing verb to the two-spaces-after-periods section.
	Correct the URL for Elements of Style.
	"Look at the following quote;" becomes "Look at the following:" --
	"quote" is informal for "quotation" -- and that just sounds clunky.

>How-To-Repeat:

	

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--- chapter.sgml.orig	Wed Jun 14 11:39:17 2000
+++ chapter.sgml	Wed Jun 14 11:34:53 2000
@@ -46,7 +46,7 @@
 	  &ldquo;Don't use contractions&rdquo; would be wrong.</para>
 
 	<para>Avoiding contractions makes for a more formal tone, is more
-	  precise, and slightly easier for translators.</para>
+	  precise, and is slightly easier for translators.</para>
       </listitem>
     </varlistentry>
     
@@ -54,11 +54,11 @@
       <term>Use the serial comma</term>
       
       <listitem>
-	<para>In a list of items within a paragraph, seperate each item from
+	<para>In a list of items within a paragraph, separate each item from
 	  the others with a comma.  Seperate the last item from the others with
 	  a comma and the word &ldquo;and&rdquo;.</para>
 
-	<para>For example, look at the following quote;</para>
+	<para>For example, look at the following:</para>
 	
 	<blockquote>
 	  <para>This is a list of one, two and three items.</para>
@@ -68,7 +68,7 @@
 	  &ldquo;two&rdquo;, and &ldquo;three&rdquo;, or a list of two items,
 	  &ldquo;one&rdquo; and &ldquo;two and three&rdquo;?</para>
 	
-	<para>It is better to be explicit and include a serial comma;</para>
+	<para>It is better to be explicit and include a serial comma:</para>
 	
 	<blockquote>
 	  <para>This is a list of one, two, and three items.</para>
@@ -132,7 +132,7 @@
 	  <application>emacs</application>.</para>
 
 	<para>While it may be argued that a capital letter following
-	  the end of sentence period, this is not the case, especially
+	  a period denotes a new sentence, this is not the case, especially
 	  in name usage.  <quote>Jordan K. Hubbard</quote> is a good
 	  example; it has a capital <literal>H</literal> following a
 	  period and a space, and there certainly isn't a new sentence
@@ -142,7 +142,7 @@
   </variablelist>
 
   <para>For more information about writing style, see <ulink
-      url="http://www.columbia.edu/acis/bartleby/strunk/">Elements of
+      url="http://www.bartleby.com/141/index.html">Elements of
       Style</ulink>, by William Strunk.</para>
 
   <sect1>

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>Number:         19268
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       locate.updatedb(8) refers to nonexistent file
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>Description:
man page locate.updatedb(8) refers to /etc/weekly which doesn't 
exist anymore, the script is now 310.locate in /etc/periodic/weekly/
>How-To-Repeat:
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>Fix:
--- locate.updatedb.8.orig      Wed Jun 14 17:56:15 2000
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@@ -43,7 +43,7 @@
 updates the database used by
 .Xr locate 1 .
 It is typically run once a week by the
-.Pa /etc/weekly
+.Pa /etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate
 script.
 .Pp
 The contents of the newly built database can be controlled by the


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i need help with a little program i am working on to make a incrimantel 
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What format are the mtools(1) manpages in? They are a bloody nuisance
because makewhatis(1) doesn't seem to understand them and instead of
adding a one-liner to the whatis database it adds the whole manpage
(seemingly as a single line) so ``man -k key'', for example produces
this:

[snip normal output]

grab(n)                  - Confine pointer and keyboard events to a window sub-t
ree
mtools(5), mtools.conf(5) - mtools configuration files Description This manpage 
describes the configuration files for mtools. They  are called f(CW(if/usr/local
/usr/local/etc/mtools.conf(is and f(CW(if~/.mtoolsrc(is. If the environmental va
riable f(CWMTOOLSRC is set, its contents is used as the filename for a third con
figuration file. These configuration files describe the following items: *  Glob
al configuration flags and variables  *  Per drive flags and variables  *  Chara
cter translation tables  Location of the configuration files c Configuration fil
e name c Name of configuration files c Location of configuration files f(CW(if/u
sr/local/usr/local/etc/mtools.conf(is is the system-wide configuration file, and

[snip]

This is the header from /usr/local/man/man1/mtools.1.gz:

% zcat mtools.1.gz
'\" t
.TH mtools.1 3 "28Jun99" mtools-3.9.6
.SH Name
mtools - utilities to access DOS disks in Unix.
'\" t
.de TQ
.br
.ns
.TP \\$1
..

.tr \(is'
.tr \(if`
.tr \(pd"

.PP
.SH Introduction
Mtools is a public domain collection of tools to allow Unix systems to
manipulate MS-DOS files: read, write, and move around files on an MS-DOS


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>Number:         19272
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       makewhatis.1 refers to nonexistent file
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>Description:
manpage makewhatis(1) refers to /etc/weekly which doesn't 
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>How-To-Repeat:
man makewhatis
>Fix:
--- makewhatis.1.orig   Wed Jun 14 20:45:52 2000
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@@ -122,7 +122,7 @@
 .Bl -tag -width /etc/master.passwdxx -compact
 .It Pa */man/whatis
 whatis database
-.It Pa /etc/weekly
+.It Pa /etc/periodic/weekly/320.whatis
 run
 .Nm makewhatis.local
 every week


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I keep getting errors when trying to build the www docs. Can someone
help me out here please? I've tried to figure it out from the
Makefiles but without success.

Sources cvsup'd half an hour ago.

Thanks

parish# cd /usr/www
parish# make
cd en; ln -sf ../ja
cd en; ln -sf ../es
cd en; ln -sf ../ru
cd en; ln -sf ../zh
cd ja; ln -sf ../en/web.mk
cd: can't cd to ja
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/www.
parish# make -DENGLISH_ONLY -DWEB_ONLY
cd en; ln -sf ../ja
cd en; ln -sf ../es
cd en; ln -sf ../ru
cd en; ln -sf ../zh
cd ja; ln -sf ../en/web.mk
cd: can't cd to ja
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/www.
parish# cd en
parish# make -DENGLISH_ONLY -DWEB_ONLY

[snip lots of stuff that builds OK]

===> copyright
sed -e 's/<!ENTITY date[ \t]*"$Free[B]SD. .* \(.* .*\) .* .* $">/<!ENTITY date  "Last modified: \1">/' license.sgml | SGML_CATALOG_FILES='' sgmlnorm -d  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog > license.html
sed -e 's/<!ENTITY date[ \t]*"$Free[B]SD. .* \(.* .*\) .* .* $">/<!ENTITY date  "Last modified: \1">/' freebsd-license.sgml | SGML_CATALOG_FILES='' sgmlnorm -d  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog > freebsd-license.html
sed -e 's/<!ENTITY date[ \t]*"$Free[B]SD. .* \(.* .*\) .* .* $">/<!ENTITY date  "Last modified: \1">/' daemon.sgml | SGML_CATALOG_FILES='' sgmlnorm -d  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog > daemon.html
sed -e 's/<!ENTITY date[ \t]*"$Free[B]SD. .* \(.* .*\) .* .* $">/<!ENTITY date  "Last modified: \1">/' copyright.sgml | SGML_CATALOG_FILES='' sgmlnorm -d  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog > copyright.html
make: don't know how to make /ports/LEGAL,v. Stop
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/www/en.
parish# 

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On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Jonathan Michaels wrote:

% On Tue, Jun 13, 2000 at 12:23:32PM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote:
% >   Are there any plans to replace the ASCII art in the FreeBSD Handbook
% > with simple xfig diagrams?  The ASCII looks really out of place in the
% > printed (PostScript) version of the handbook that was recently
% > published.  
% >   With a few simple changes to the makefile and freebsd.dsl we could
% > pass a variable with the -V option to [Open]Jade and let the DSSSL code
% > decide whether to display the graphic (HTML or PostScript output) or the
% > ASCII figure (Text output).
% 
% >   Does this sounds like a logical way to solve the problem? 
% 
% not if thier is not a problem .. lots of people still use text
% only consoles. so if your plan is to add functionality, as in
% make the new 'artwork' a part of teh pdf and or ps editions
% while still leaving the 'ascii art' in the html and ascii
% (latin?) text versions of the document.

  While it's hard to decipher what you are actually saying, it sounds
like you are OK with my proposal?  

  Yes, as my second paragraph states I wish to include both ASCII and
graphical versions of the figures (in the form of entities and .eps
files respecively).  If you ouput to text you will get ASCII figures,
and if you ouput to PostScript you will get graphical figures.  I
don't see how this hurts users with limited hardware resources.  You
can still read the Handbook on your Palm Pilot, e-book, cell phone, or
386 when outputting to text format.  This only makes a change for the
high quality PostScript (and possibly HTML) output formats.

% ok, but if you plan to replace teh 'ascii art' then i don't
% think it is a good idea, because it is one step closer to teh
% eventual microsoftisation of freebsd, as i tried to explain the
% last time a similar issue riased its head.

  As my original message stated, I do not propose replacing the ASCII
art except for the high quality printed output options.  Please read
my original email.  Why do you consider better printed documentation
to be the "Microsoftification" of FreeBSD?

% as i tried to say last time, not every one uses or has access
% to the latestest greatest in hardware or has human bodies that
% lack 'deficiencies' .. we make do with waht we have.

  As my original message stated, this is a conditional change that
only affects the graphical output formats.  The bare-bones version of
the handbook (text) will remain the same for users without the latest
and greatest hardware to view a 500 byte black+white image.

% just becaue i use a i386dx33 with 8 mb dram, 345 mb esdi hard
% drive and a text only console display i don't assume that every
% body else in teh universe uses the same .. so, when a person

  Do you understand the concept of using SGML to output into different
formats?  Some formats cater to the least common denominator, and
others to professional printing presses.  ASCII figures are not
suitable for any but the most limited publishing mediums.

% <apology in advance> 
% i am sorry, but, i don't know how else to say what i am trying
% to say, while not getting jumped on by the lurking bigots and
% nacent 'thought police' that are an ever increasing part of teh
% population in mailling lists these days.
% </apology in advance>

  It really doesn't sound like you read my original email at all.

	- Murray




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Hi friends,

there is a "FreeBSD handbook" at your FTP server in many formats (html, pdf,
...). I miss this book on your "iso9660" CD image. There is a version of
handbook for FreeBSD 4.0 at your FTP server today. I cannot find the
handbook for older versions of FreeBSD. In the past I downloaded version for
FreeBSD 3.1, that is why I know that different handbooks exist. I was
looking for handbook for version 2.2.8 and 3.4. Maybe I don't need old
version of handbook as version 4.0 is valid for older releases too.

Best regards,
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On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 at 00:11:51 +0200, Petr Slansky wrote:
> Hi friends,

Hi,

> there is a "FreeBSD handbook" at your FTP server in many formats
> (html, pdf, ...). I miss this book on your "iso9660" CD image. There
> is a version of handbook for FreeBSD 4.0 at your FTP server today. I
> cannot find the handbook for older versions of FreeBSD. In the past I
> downloaded version for FreeBSD 3.1, that is why I know that different
> handbooks exist. I was looking for handbook for version 2.2.8 and
> 3.4. Maybe I don't need old version of handbook as version 4.0 is
> valid for older releases too.

There is no ``older version'' handbook.  The handbook is an
ever-changing document -- 4.0 is the latest release, so we try to keep 
it up-to-date with that.  It'll say 4.1 on it in July when 4.1 is
released.  Some parts will probably be relevant for older versions..
YMMV.

- jim

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On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 at 22:17:07 +0100, Mark Ovens wrote:
> I keep getting errors when trying to build the www docs. Can someone
> help me out here please? I've tried to figure it out from the
> Makefiles but without success.

Hmm, works ok over here.  Try this..

   cd /usr/www
   make links
   cd en
   make ENGLISH_ONLY=yes WEB_ONLY=YES -DNOPORTSCVS all

I'm doing it on a copy of the www tree checked out from my local
repository and updated as of about 10 minutes ago.

You can also check out http://wolfram.schneider.org/papers/webbuild.html
if you get stuck.

- jim

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>Number:         19276
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Grammatical error in FreeBSD Handbook
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Wed Jun 14 16:00:00 PDT 2000
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Ed Ryan
>Release:        FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386
>Organization:
aaSIS
>Environment:
>Description:
                 In section 11.3.7, 4th sentance, "by do a backup" should be
"by doing a backup".
	

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Synopsis: Grammatical error in FreeBSD Handbook

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Committed, thanks!

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On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 12:49:09PM +1000, Jonathan Michaels wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 13, 2000 at 12:23:32PM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote:
> >   Are there any plans to replace the ASCII art in the FreeBSD Handbook
> > with simple xfig diagrams?  The ASCII looks really out of place in the
> > printed (PostScript) version of the handbook that was recently
> > published.  
> >   With a few simple changes to the makefile and freebsd.dsl we could
> > pass a variable with the -V option to [Open]Jade and let the DSSSL code
> > decide whether to display the graphic (HTML or PostScript output) or the
> > ASCII figure (Text output).
> 
> >   Does this sounds like a logical way to solve the problem? 
> 
> not if thier is not a problem .. lots of people still use text
> only consoles. so if your plan is to add functionality, as in
> make the new 'artwork' a part of teh pdf and or ps editions
> while still leaving the 'ascii art' in the html and ascii
> (latin?) text versions of the document.

We can (and will) do that.

    % alias | grep netscape
    netscape        xterm -geometry =120x50 -e w3m http://localhost/

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>Number:         19278
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Change to Respect CLFAGS portion of Porters Handbook
>Confidential:   no
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>Description:

The portion of the Porters Handbook titled Respect CFLAGS is too
brief. The unexperienced user can not understand what it means.

>How-To-Repeat:

	

>Fix:

--- x1663.html.orig	Wed Jun 14 14:40:59 2000
+++ x1663.html	Wed Jun 14 16:39:23 2000
@@ -45,6 +45,28 @@
       CFLAGS</tt> variable. If it does not, please add <tt class= 
       "LITERAL">NO_PACKAGE=ignores cflags</tt> to the <tt class= 
       "FILENAME">Makefile</tt>.</p>
+
+      <p>An example of a Makefile respecting the
+      <tt class="MAKEVAR">CFLAGS</tt> variable <B>(note the 
+      <tt class="MAKEVAR">+=</tt></B>):</p>
+
+<pre class="PROGRAMLISTING">
+    CFLAGS += -Wall -Werror
+</pre>
+
+      <p>An example of a Makefile which does not respect the
+      <tt class="MAKEVAR">CFLAGS</tt> variable:</p>
+
+<pre class="PROGRAMLISTING">
+    CFLAGS = -Wall -Werror
+</pre>
+
+      <p>The <tt class="MAKEVAR">CFLAGS</tt> variable is defined on
+      FreeBSD systems in /etc/make.conf. The first example appends
+      additional flags to the <tt class="MAKEVAR">CFLAGS</tt> 
+      variable, preserving any system wide definitions. The second 
+      example clobbers anything previously defined.</p>
+
     </div>
 
     <div class="NAVFOOTER">

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Synopsis: Spelling and nits, chapter 9 fdp-primer

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Committed, thanks.

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>Number:         19280
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       tell the readers that this is indeed the upgrade kit
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          change-request
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Wed Jun 14 18:20:00 PDT 2000
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>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Dan Langille
>Release:        4.0-stable
>Organization:
The FreeBSD Diary
>Environment:
FreeBSD ducky.nz.freebsd.org 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Wed May 10 18:42:
47 NZST 2000     root@ducky.nz.freebsd.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/DUCKY  i386
>Description:
If your ports tree is out of date, you may receive this message when 
you try to make a port:

   Your system is too old to use this bsd.port.mk.  You
   need a fresh make world or an upgrade kit.  Please go 
   to http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/ or a mirror site and 
   follow the instructions

The patch clearly identifies that section of the above URL page which 
contains the upgrade kits.
>How-To-Repeat:

>Fix:
$ diff -ru ports.inc.original ports.inc
--- ports.inc.original  Thu Jun 15 13:08:55 2000
+++ ports.inc   Thu Jun 15 13:10:24 2000
@@ -56,6 +56,8 @@

 <hr>

+<H1 ALIGN="LEFT"><FONT COLOR="#660000">Upgrade kits</FONT></H1>
+
 <p>The ports listed on these web pages are continually being updated.
 It is recommended that you refresh the entire collection together, as
 many ports depend on other parts of the tree.  If that is not

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                    The DocBook Experience
                       Patrick Powell


1. Overview and Introduction- Wed May  31

I promised that I would keep notes as I did this stuff,
and here is the running diary.

I wrote the LPRng Print Spooler software, which is currently
running on over 80 different UNIX or Posix-like systems.  The
two problems that I deal with are testing and documentation.

About a year ago at the 1999 FreeBSD Conference a smooth talking
SGML expert did a sales job on me for DocBook.

"Why stick to that old LinuxDoc stuff, move into the 21st century,
son," he said as he handed me another beer.  "DocBook does it all.
Sings, dances, graphics, multiple languages, and it is the way that
all FreeBSD documentation will go."

I was impressed.  However,  I remembered another sales job like
this and found out that while a similar product sang, it only knew
one song and that was obscene, it could only dance the polka,  it
needed an etch-a-sketch for an output device,  and the multiple
languages included Uru, Afghani, and Puktu, but did not include
English and French.

"OK, I will take a crack at using DocBook,  but you will be expected
to help me out on this, won't you?"  I said, directing a steely
glare into the eyes of the slick talking salesman.

"Yeah,  any time, just send me email,  no problem!" was the reply.

Well,  I finally got around to deciding to use the DocBook stuff.
Actually,  what happened was that the current method I was using has
become so mangled that I forgot how to use it.

I decided to call the smooth talking salesman.  With a name like
Nik,  I should have known.  Sigh.  At least I did not sign my soul
away,  just some time.

"Uhhh... Did I promise some time?  Help?  Ummm...  I'm kinda
busy right now...  Are you sure we met?  Oh... Right.  Well,
tell you what,  why not give it a try and see what happens."

Sigh.  O.K., I was on my own on this.  So, remembering my standard
motto of dealing with the problem, "RTFM before you FU," I would
did the following:

a) Gather information
b) Hunt down examples
c) Push as far as I could
d) Beat on the author/support/mail groups
e) Record the steps so that others can benefit.

Right.  Back to the stone age. Hunting, gathering, territorial
agression, and drawing on the cave walls.  Sigh.  The benefits
of modern technology.

2. RTFM and more RTFM - Mon Jun  5

I decided that the best place to start was the FreeBSD Documentation
project web page:

     http://www.freebsd.org/docproj

This in turn led me to the DocProj primer.

    http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/sgml.html 

Now this was more like it.  I threw myself at the examples.
Yuch.  HTML from Hell.  Bad Taste XML.  But I'm tough,  I can
take it.  The first pass was OK - I got the idea.  I got the
port:

    /usr/ports/textproc/docproj

I read the bit about using TeX, and decided to see just how big
it was.

    cd /usr/ports/textproc/docproj
    make JADETEX=YES all install

Grind grind... download download... yawn yawn.  I gave up and
went off and did something else.  Six hours later I came back
just in time to read the comment about testing the distribution
go off the screen.

While I was waiting,  I had dropped into San Diego Technical Books,
and dropped my usual $100...  That place is almost as hard on my
bank account as Round Records,  but I digress.  I got

   DocBook - The Definitive Guide by Norm Walsh and Leonard
    Muellner.

I went home,  sat in the Comfy Chair,  and started reading
DocBook - the Definite Grunge...

3. Struggles with RTFM - Tue Jun  6

Eight hours later, this morning,  I woke up refreshed and still on
the Preface.  I drank 3 cups of coffee and sat on a rock in the
back garden,  at 4:00 AM.  I read the first 5 chapters, which look
REALLY FAMILIAR guys...  and start to make a bit more sense.

I reread the DocProj Primer (hard copy).  Went to the office, and
sat down at the terminal,  drank 2 more cups of coffee,  and started
in on the gathering...  I mean trying to get the downloaded stuff
to work.

I set up my Environment variables.

I did the exercises in the DocProj Primer.  I editted files, read
about the general and parameter entities, and had fun.  The simple
examples worked, much to my amazement.  Now for the good stuff -
lets produce the actual HTML output.

WHAT!  No directions in the Primer?  What...  Sigh... OK OK This
is one of the reasons I am doing this...

  PUT SOME INSTRUCTIONS IN THE PRIMER ON HOW TO PRODUCE
  HTML and RTF, Nik

  PUT SOME INSTRUCTIONS IN THE PRIMER ON HOW TO USE JADETEX!
  Or what the hell JadeTex IS...

  (Pant pant pant... There.  I feel better now.)

Lets read the Jade documentation.  Ummm... no man pages?

h4: {223} : jade -=
  usage is "jade [-vCegG2] [-b encoding] [-f error_file] \
  [-c catalog_sysid] [-D dir] [-a link_type] [-A arch] \
  [-E max_errors] [-i entity] [-w warning_type] [-d dsssl_spec] \
  [-V variable] [-t (fot|rtf|tex|sgml|xml)] [-o output_file] sysid..."

OK,  lets see what else there is:

find / -type f -name '*jade*' -print

Voila!
  /usr/ports/textproc/jade/work/jade-1.2.1/jade.htm

So I read the document.  This document contained the following stuff
that was to come to haunt me,  as being typical of the SMGL/Jade/DSSSL
universe -  written by those who know for those who know:

---- from the jade.htm page ---
# Using Jade
# 
# Add the directory containing the jade binary to your path, change
# directory to the dsssl directory, and do
# 
# jade demo.sgm
# 
# If everything is working, there should be a well-formed XML file
# demo.fot created.
# 
# The system identifier of the document to be processed is specified
# as an argument to Jade. If this is omitted, standard input will be
# read.
# 
# Jade determines the system identifier for the DSSSL specification
# as follows:
# 
#     1.If the -d option is specified, it will use the argument as
#     the system identifier.
# 
#     2.Otherwise, it will look for processing instructions in the
#     prolog of the document. Two kinds of processing instruction
#     are recognized:
# 
#        <?stylesheet href="sysid" type="text/dsssl"> 
# 
#       The system data of the processing instruction is parsed
#       like an SGML start-tag. It will be parsed using the
#       reference concrete syntax whatever the actual concrete
#       syntax of the document. The name that starts the processing
#       instruction can be either stylesheet, xml-stylesheet or
#       xml:stylesheet. The processing instruction will be ignored unless
#       the value of the type attribute is one of text/dsssl, text/x-dsssl,
#       application/dsssl, or application/x-dsssl. The value of href
#       attribute is the system identifier of the DSSSL specification.
# 
#        <?dsssl sysid> 
# 
#     The system identifier is the portion of the system data
#     of the processing instruction following the initial name
#     and any whitespace.
# 
#       Although the processing instruction is only recognized in
#       the prolog, it need not occur in the document entity. For
#       example, it could occur in a DTD. The system identifier will
#       be interpreted relative to where the the processing instruction
#       occurs.
# 
#     3. Otherwise, it will use the system identifier of the document
#        with any extension changed to .dsl.
# 
-----  end ---- 

OK,  I admit it.  After reading this I had severe mental cramps
and had to resort to theraputic treatment.  Two beers for lunch
later I was ready for more.

"Where had I read this stuff before?  Ahh... The DocBook - The
Definitive Guide."  So I reread the first couple chapters.  I then
reread this.

It was coming clearer - Now I understand where and what to do.

4. Try A Real Working Example - Wed Jun  7

I suddenly realized that there were some examples to look at: the
CVS tree.  So I reread section 7.2 of the DocProj Primer, and
decided to try it:

  mkdir /var/tmp/webuild
  cd /var/tmp/webuild
  CVSROOT=/home/ncvs ; export CVSROOT
  cvs -r co www doc

 --- ugly messages about no www ---
  So I go to the /usr/src/share/examples  and discover a
  www-supfile.

No explanation of the differences between www and doc directories,
but Hey!  I am used to this.  Probably somewhere in the non-existent
as-of-yet documenters guide.  I guess.

So I add this to the cvs list,  download the cvs, and redo:

  cvs -r co www doc
  cd www
  make links
  cd en
  make all

And there is a flurry of activity... as shell scripts get executed,
and ... jade is called... and HTML forms of the document is produced.

I looked at the output of the Make process and choose a victim...
I mean sample.  Why not use the FreeBSD Documentation Project Primer
as the starting point?

/usr/local/bin/jade -ioutput.html -V nochunks
   -c /var/tmp/webuild/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/../../../share/sgml/catalog
  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog
  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog
  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog
  -d /var/tmp/webuild/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl
  -t sgml
  /var/tmp/webuild/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/book.sgml > book.html

5. The Conversion Process - Thu Jun 8

In email that I got from Nik ("really, its very easy"), he said
(with keyboard in cheek, most likely):

#
#  > b) I have stuff in the LinuxBook form - is there an easy way
#  > to convert?
# 
#  Yes and no.
#  
#  Go to http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/doc/en/handbook/Attic/
#  and look at the README file.  This covers the steps I took to convert
#  the Handbook from LinuxDoc to DocBook.  The raw conversion can be automated,
#  but because DocBook is a 'richer' markup than LinuxDoc, you then have to
#  go through it adjusting the automatic markup choices with more appropriate
#  ones.
#

So I pulled down the document,  read it (well,  I scanned it once,
then reread up to section 4).  This looked pretty straight forward:

a)  you run this shell script
b)  you get rid of bad stuff
c)  you get rid of bad stuff
    (iterate until happy)

Being the logical scientific experimenter I am,  I carefully
cloned my FreeBSD system and ran this procedure on another machine.
Been there, done this, before.  Yeah...

I ran the script.  It took about 10 seconds.  I was suprised.
I then ran nsgmls on the output.   OOOPPPSSS!  Lots and lots
of warning, messages, and stuff.

About 60 minutes of futzing with silly stuff that was actually
caused by mistakes in the original (missing this, that and the
other)  I got a parseable document.

So now I took a deep breath and rattle the keys:

    /usr/local/bin/jade -ioutput.html -V nochunks \
     -c /var/tmp/webuild/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/../../../share/sgml/catalog \
     -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog \
     -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog \
     -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog \
     -d /var/tmp/webuild/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl \
     -t sgml $(DOC).sgml > handbook.html

Error messages from HELL!  Weird messages.  STRANNNGE message.
Cross references to anchors?  Sigh...

Back to the editor...  typeity typeity type type type type...
far into the afternoon.

6. The Patch and Fix Process - Fri Jun 9

Bright and early here,  sitting at the terminal,  and armed with
fresh coffee,  I prepare to hit the DocBook Trail again.

OK,  before I edit the document again,  why not read some documentation?
I reread the http://nwalsh.com/docbook/dsssl/ stuff that Norm
Walsh had published.  I reread the freebsd.dsl file - you know, this
is starting to make sense.  Then I reread the DocBook - The Extremely
Vague Answer to Life, The Universe, and Formatting, Part 1.

This time stuff was starting to make sense, and I was getting a
better handle on the model used.  Just for fun,  here is what,
at this point,  my understanding is.  Now remember,  this is based
on only reading the aformentioned (run THAT through your spell checker)
documents.

a)  The 'markup' used is very very simple- you have
    a set of elements with attributes that you use
    to create a parse tree.  Any resemblance between
    this and LISP is coincidental,  and get your mind
    out of the gutter.  We use '<xx>' and '</xx>' not
    '(' and ')' close,  and we match the '<xx>' to '</xx>'
    and not like LISP.  Right.  Sure.  Tell me another one.
    OK OK,  if you insist.  Like SCHEME.  Not LISP.

b)  Parsing is simply the matter of building a tree (or
    even a DAG I suspect), each node of which corresponds
    to an 'element' object,  and which can have sub-nodes.

    Also, each node can be 'decorated' with 'attributes'
    which are assigned to it.

    The SMGL parsing rules simply say what and in what
    order the subnodes may appear and what attribute
    values must be present.  Also, how deep the tree can
    be and if some 'element' types can be in the subtree.

    (This sure looks like something that would appear as
    'An Advanced Exercise' in Ableson and Sussman...
    I note that there are a set of tools that build
    trees and forests from XML and SGML^H^H^H^HDocBook
    source, but I digress... Interesting...)

c)  Now we get to the really interesting stuff - generating
    the actual 'readable output'.

    The DSSSL (Document Style Semantics and Specification
    Language) carry the walking and decoration onto another level.
    The DSSSL lanaguage appears to be a way to define how to
    'walk' the tree, decorating each node with information.
    The 'decorated nodes'  would then be used to generate output.

    The DocBook DSSSL Stylesheet is then simply a specification
    that is used by a 'tree walker'  to do the decoration,
    and then the flattening/conversion to an output stream.

    I think this is kinda neat.  Now,  of course,  there is NO
    relationship between this methodology and the way that some
    optimizing compilers work.  Right!  That is exactly what most
    of them do,  they build up a tree of syntax nodes,  decorate
    them with 'code to be emitted'  and then 'string the code
    together' and produce the output file.  Again, the similarities
    of the two methodologies are interesting.

This starts looking more and more understandable.

Lets go back to the mystery stuff that I read before:

> Jade determines the system identifier for the DSSSL specification
> as follows:
> 
>     1.If the -d option is specified, it will use the argument as
>     the system identifier.
> 
   Cool.  This is the purpose of the -d flag... Now I know.
   This allows me to specify the Style Sheet, say, docbook.dsl,
   or even papowell.dsl

>    3. Otherwise, it will use the system identifier of the document
>       with any extension changed to .dsl.

   Hey,  that means I can put my own DSSSL stylesheet in place,
   and have it contain the stuff I want on a per document basis.
   Nice idea.

7. The First Stuff Out - Sat Jun 10

   OK, lets try out some ideas.  Here is the first line of the
   LPRng.sgml

<!DOCTYPE book PUBLIC
 "-//FreeBSD//DTD DocBook V3.1-Based Extension//EN"
[
  <!ENTITY LPRng "LPRng">
]>

Here is the Makefile I am using:

CATALOGS= \
     -c /var/tmp/webuild/doc/share/sgml/catalog \
     -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog \
     -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog \
     -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog
html:
    /usr/local/bin/jade -ioutput.html -V nochunks \
     -d /var/tmp/webuild/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl \
    $(CATALOGS) \
     -t sgml LPRng.sgml > LPRng.html

check:
    #nsgmls -sv -f handbook.errs handbook.sgml
    nsgmls -sv $(CATALOGS) LPRng.sgml

clean:
    rm -f LPRng.html LPRng.errs *.htm

I spent the rest of the day editing the LPRng.sgml file,
reading the freebsd.dsl and freebsd.dtd files and their
little friends, and fixing up the formatting in the LPRng.sgml
file.

8. Do I Understand This Stuff - Sun Jun 11

Right.  Here it is Sunday,  and I am sitting at home,  armed with
my network connection and lots of sloth.

Lets if I now understand what is happening.  I will walk through
the various parts of files and commands that I am using to generate
the HTML output.

Here is the header of my LPRng.sgml file:

<!DOCTYPE book PUBLIC
 "-//FreeBSD//DTD DocBook V3.1-Based Extension//EN"
[
  <!ENTITY LPRng "LPRng">
]>

Now lets see if we can find out what catalog the PID for the DTD
is defined in (gAHHH... I am starting to use the jargon).  The #
is used to indicate file contents.  I have removed whitespace and
some 'filler' comments.

/var/tmp/webuild/doc/share/sgml/catalog

#   -- ...................................................................... --
#   -- FreeBSD SGML Public Identifiers ...................................... --
#   -- Language neutral ..................................................... --
#   -- These identifiers are shared across all translations of the FreeBSD
#      documentation, even though the listed language is "EN"
#   --
# PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//DTD DocBook V3.1-Based Extension//EN" "freebsd.dtd"
# PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Manual Page Entities//EN" "man-refs.ent"
#   -- These identifiers should only be used by English language versions of 
#      the FreeBSD Documentation.
#      All other translations should base their FPIs on these, but change the
#      final parameter in the FPI to represent the target language, as 
#      appropriate.  Do not change the rest of the FPI
#   --
# PUBLIC    "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook BookInfo Entities//EN" 
#   "../../en_US.ISO_8859-1/share/sgml/bookinfo.ent"
# PUBLIC  "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Author Entities//EN"
#         "../../en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/authors.ent"

Now if I understand this:

The "-//FreeBSD//DTD DocBook V3.1-Based Extension//EN" means
  I use the the freebsd.dtd file.
  --- OK - this will be DTD stuff, I understand this now.

The "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Manual Page Entities//EN" means
  I use the "man-refs.ent" file.
  --- OK - this is proably a set of entities that we can use.

  Lets take a little peek:
  more /var/tmp/webuild/doc/share/sgml/man-refs.ent
    <!ENTITY man.at.1 "<citerefentry/<refentrytitle/at/<manvolnum/1//">
    <!ENTITY man.awk.1 "<citerefentry/<refentrytitle/awk/<manvolnum/1//">
    ....

  Bingo!  It looks like we are doing better now.  And also I like
  the sneaky way that the <citerefentry/ stuff is done... :-)

I grep through the FDP.sgml (ok, the 'book.sgml')
file and pull out this:

<!ENTITY % man PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Manual Page Entities//EN">
 %man;

OOOHHH... I understand this!  We are going to define
an ENTITY (% -> parameter entity), with the name 'man' and using 
Formal Public Identifier (PUBLIC indicates this) "-../EN".

This now allows us to use the entity.  We do this with '%man;' which
is the way that we get the entity definition file processed by the
parser.

Ummm... This is really not as bad as I thought.

Now lets move on to see what the freebsd.dtd file contains.
I have removed a bunch of whitespace and 'filler' comments.

/var/tmp/webuild/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dtd

# <!-- FreeBSD Documentation Project, Extended DocBook DTD
#      This DTD builds upon the DocBook 3.1 DTD. It extends it in order to
#      add some new elements.
#      The comment style and section headings are drawn from the DocBook DTD.
#      The FPI for this DTD is "-//FreeBSD//DTD DocBook V3.1-Based Extension//EN"
# -->
# <!ENTITY % output.html  "IGNORE">    <!-- HTML output is being generated   -->
# <!ENTITY % output.print "IGNORE">    <!-- Print output is being generated  -->
# <!ENTITY % local.list.class "|FAQList">
# <!ENTITY % local.tech.char.class "|HostID|Username|Devicename|MakeTarget|MakeVar">

OK, we define some parameter entities.  The 'output.html' and
'output.print' seem to be familiar... Yes,  it appears in the
jade command:
    /usr/local/bin/jade -ioutput.html -V nochunks
   ... [-i entity]

And after a bit of a search, we find that the nsgmls.htm file
in the jade distribution has the following:

  -iname 
       Pretend that 
       <!ENTITY % name "INCLUDE">
       occurs at the start of the document type declaration subset
       in the SGML document entity. Since repeated definitions of
       an entity are ignored, this definition will take precedence
       over any other definitions of this entity in the document
       type declaration. Multiple -i options are allowed. If the
       SGML declaration replaces the reserved name INCLUDE then
       the new reserved name will be the replacement text of the
       entity. Typically the document type declaration will contain
       <!ENTITY % name "IGNORE">
       and will use %name; in the status keyword specification of
       a marked section declaration. In this case the effect of
       the option will be to cause the marked section not to be
       ignored.

So we see how we use -ioutput.html to set the %output.html to
INCLUDE and this will now include the stuff for generating HTML.
I we were to use -ioutput.print we would get the print
formatting stuff.  Makes sense now.

Lets see what is in the rest of the file...

# 
# <!-- OS Version attributes ...............................................
#      Each element has three attributes which specify which version(s) of
#      FreeBSD the element's content applies to.  It is up to the
#      pre-processor to include or exclude elements based on the value of
#      these attributes.                                                     -->
# <!ENTITY % local.common.attrib
#      "OSVersionMin        CDATA        #IMPLIED
#       OSVersionMax        CDATA        #IMPLIED
#       OSVersionIn         CDATA        #IMPLIED">
# 

This looks evil.  EVIL!  Sigh... The things people will do to get around
missing stuff...  So you are going to add some 'general attributes'
that allow you to set some OS versions...  OK,  I get this... sorta...


# <!-- Altered general entities ............................................
#      The HTML 4.0 DTD includes some new ISO entities. Most browsers don't
#      support them yet. Change the definition of some of these entities to
#      character strings that the browsers will support.
#      This does not apply when generating printed output, so these are 
#      contained within a %output.html; marked section.
#      As browser technology improves, these definitions can be removed.     -->
# 
# <![ %output.html; [
# <!ENTITY ldquo  "``">
# <!ENTITY rdquo  "''">
# <!ENTITY lsquo  "`">
# <!ENTITY rsquo  "'">
# <!ENTITY mdash  "--">
# <!ENTITY ndash  "-">
# <!ENTITY hellip "...">
# <!ENTITY dollar "$">
# ]]>

Snicker.... Ohhh... the joys of moving target standards...
So you wanna use it but it is not there yet.

# 
# <!-- Pull in the original DTD -->
# <!ENTITY % orig-docbook PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook V3.1//EN">
# %orig-docbook;

And here is where we pull in the original stuff,  and the previous
declarations get overridden.

# 
# <!ELEMENT HostID - - ((%cptr.char.mix;)+)>
# <!ATTLIST HostID
#                 --
#                 Role: More specific information about this hostname.
#                 If not specified then the default is 'hostname'.
#                 --
#                 Role    (Hostname
#                         |Domainname
#                         |FQDN
#                         |IPAddr
#                         |Netmask
#                         |MAC)      #IMPLIED
#                 %common.attrib;
# >

Hmmm... this is interesting... so this is how we extend the DTD.

# 
# <!ELEMENT Username - - ((%cptr.char.mix;)+)>
# <!ATTLIST Username
#                 %common.attrib;
# >
# 
# <!ELEMENT Devicename - - ((%cptr.char.mix;)+)>
# <!ATTLIST Devicename
#                 %common.attrib;
# >
# 
# <!ELEMENT MakeTarget - - ((%cptr.char.mix;)+)>
# <!ATTLIST MakeTarget
#                 %common.attrib;
# >
# 
# <!ELEMENT MakeVar - - ((%cptr.char.mix;)+)>
# <!ATTLIST MakeVar
#                 %common.attrib;
# >
# <!ENTITY prompt.root      "<prompt>#</prompt>">
# <!ENTITY prompt.user      "<prompt>%</prompt>">

Looks simple NOW.  OK, so we know what the DTD does.
Lets look at the DSSSL.  I decided to start with this one:

/var/tmp/webuild/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl

# <!DOCTYPE style-sheet PUBLIC "-//James Clark//DTD DSSSL Style Sheet//EN" [
# <!ENTITY freebsd.dsl SYSTEM "../../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl" CDATA DSSSL>
# <!ENTITY % output.html  "IGNORE"> 
# <!ENTITY % output.print "IGNORE">
# ]>
# 

Been here before,  and we see the 'output.html' strike again.
I noticed the CDATA DSSSL stuff, but it is not documented anywhere,
so I guess this is part of the DSSSL language specification.

# <style-sheet>
#   <style-specification use="docbook">
#     <style-specification-body>
#  
#       <![ %output.html; [ 
#       (define ($email-footer$)
#           (make sequence
#             (literal "For questions about FreeBSD, e-mail <")
#             (make element gi: "a"
#                   attributes: (list (list "href" "mailto:questions@FreeBSD.org"))
#               (literal "questions@FreeBSD.org"))
#             (literal ">.")
#             (make empty-element gi: "br")
#             (literal "For questions about this documentation, e-mail <")
#               (make element gi: "a"
#                     attributes: (list (list "href" "mailto:doc@FreeBSD.org"))
#                 (literal "doc@FreeBSD.org"))
#             (literal ">."))) 
#       ]]>
#     </style-specification-body>
#   </style-specification>

OK, we define an 'eamil-footer' decoration thing.  The definition
looks kinda obvious.  I reread the "DocBook - the Cure for Insomnia"
section on extending style sheets and this makes sense... but I
don't have the faintest idea what it DOES :-).

# 
#   <external-specification id="docbook" document="freebsd.dsl">

And now we drag the 'freebsd.dsl' in, from above
# </style-sheet>

And we are at the end.  OK, lets get the 'freebsd.dsl':
  "../../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl"

/var/tmp/webuild/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl

# <!DOCTYPE style-sheet PUBLIC "-//James Clark//DTD DSSSL Style Sheet//EN" [
# <!ENTITY % output.html  "IGNORE">
# <!ENTITY % output.print "IGNORE">
# 
# <![ %output.html; [
# <!ENTITY docbook.dsl PUBLIC "-//Norman Walsh//DOCUMENT DocBook HTML Stylesheet//EN" CDATA DSSSL>
# ]]>
# <![ %output.print; [
# <!ENTITY docbook.dsl PUBLIC "-//Norman Walsh//DOCUMENT DocBook Print Stylesheet//EN" CDATA DSSSL>
# 
# ]]>
# ]>

OK.  So if it is HTML we use James Clark's HTML style sheet,
otherwise we use the Print style sheet.  Makes sense.

# 
# <style-sheet>
#   <style-specification use="docbook">
#     <style-specification-body>
#       <!-- HTML only .................................................... -->
#       <![ %output.html; [
#         <!-- Configure the stylesheet using documented variables -->
#         (define %gentext-nav-use-tables%
#           ;; Use tables to build the navigation headers and footers?

            ^^^ SCHEME comments?  Right.  I should have known...

#           #t)
#         (define %html-ext%
#           ;; Default extension for HTML output files
#           ".html")
#         (define %shade-verbatim%
#           ;; Should verbatim environments be shaded?
#           #f)
#         (define %use-id-as-filename%
#           ;; Use ID attributes as name for component HTML files?
#           #t)
#         (define %root-filename%
#           ;; Name for the root HTML document
#           "index")
#         (define html-manifest
#           ;; Write a manifest?
#           #f)
#         (element segmentedlist
#           (make element gi: "TABLE"
#             (process-children)))
#         (element seglistitem
#           (make element gi: "TR"
#             (process-children)))
#         (element seg
#           (make element gi: "TD"
#                 attributes: '(("VALIGN" "TOP"))
#             (process-children)))
# 
#         <!-- The next two definitions control the appearance of an
#              e-mail footer at the bottom of each page. -->
# 
#         <!-- This is the text to display at the bottom of each page.
#              Defaults to nothing.  The individual stylesheets should
#              redefine this as necessary. -->
#         (define ($email-footer$)
#           (empty-sosofo))

Ohh... very clever.  You define this in the other style sheet,
like we saw.

# 
#         <!-- This code handles displaying $email-footer$ at the bottom
#              of each page.
# 
#              If "nuchunks" is turned on then we make sure that an <hr>
#              is shown first.

Ummmm... do we mean 'nochunks' ?  Sigh...

# 
#              Then create a centered paragraph ("<p>"), and reduce the font
#              size ("<small>").  Then run $email-footer$, which should
#              create the text and links as necessary. -->
# 	(define ($html-body-end$)
#           (if (equal? $email-footer$ (normalize ""))
#             (empty-sosofo)

.....  Boring stuff deleted

# 
#     </style-specification-body>
#   </style-specification>
# 
#   <external-specification id="docbook" document="docbook.dsl">

And now we do the 'drag in another stylesheet' trick...

# </style-sheet>

OK.  So we could copy this and define our own style sheets.

I copied the freebsd.dtd to LPRng-HOWTO.dtd, and the
freebsd.dsl to LPRng-HOWTO.dsl.

Here is the Makefile after we copy this stuff,  and our
header from LPRng.sgml:

<!DOCTYPE book
  SYSTEM "LPRng-HOWTO.dtd"
 -- PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//DTD DocBook V3.1-Based Extension//EN" --
 -- PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook V3.1//EN" --
[
  <!ENTITY LPRng "LPRng">
]>

# CATALOGS= \
# 	  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog \
# 	  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog
# LPRng-HOWTO.html: LPRng-HOWTO.sgml LPRng-HOWTO.dsl
# 	jade \
# 	  -i output.html -V nochunks \
# 		$(CATALOGS) \
# 	  -d LPRng-HOWTO.dsl \
# 	  -t sgml \
# 	    LPRng-HOWTO.sgml >LPRng-HOWTO.html
# check:
# 	#nsgmls -s -f handbook.errs handbook.sgml
# 	nsgmls -s $(CATALOGS) LPRng-HOWTO.sgml
# 
# clean:
# 	rm -f LPRng.html LPRng.errs x*.htm c*.htm b*.htm

I ran this and it worked the first time.  Produced identical
output as well...

Cool...

I spent the rest of Sunday fixing up various formats, and playing
with tables.

9. On to Special Effects Mon Jun 12

   OK, I have the 'one big html file',  how do I get the 'lots of
   little html files?'  I looked in the FDP Makefile and spotted:
   FORMATS="html split-html"

   Ummmm... it couldn't be that simple, could it?  Well, it was.

     make FORMATS=split-html

   Sorta.  You also need to have a 'manifest' file.  Here is the
   required steps.

  # Makefile
  CATALOGS= \
	  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog \
	  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog
  index.html HTML.manifest: LPRng-HOWTO.sgml LPRng-HOWTO.dsl
	jade -i output.html -V html-manifest $(CATALOGS) \
	  -d LPRng-HOWTO.dsl -t sgml LPRng-HOWTO.sgml
	-tidy -i -m -f /dev/null ${TIDYFLAGS} `xargs < HTML.manifest`

ARGHHH!!! ARGHH!!! This produces a lot of files, one per section.
I wanted one per chapter.  OK, perhaps this was not such a good idea.
Or perhaps there is a hidden mystery flag that will fix this
up,  and be compatible with the old LinuxDoc convention.

OK, lets see what we can do with PostScript:
    make FORMATS=ps

And we get the equivalent:

  LPRng-HOWTO.ps:
	jade -Vtex-backend -ioutput.print -t tex -o LPRng-HOWTO.tex \
		$(CATALOGS) \
	  -d LPRng-HOWTO.dsl \
	    LPRng-HOWTO.sgml
### --- see the comments below ---
	perl -spi -e 's/\000\000/5\\p\@/;' LPRng-HOWTO.tex
### ---
	echo "==> TeX pass 1/3"
	tex "&jadetex" LPRng-HOWTO.tex
	echo "==> TeX pass 2/3"
	tex "&jadetex" LPRng-HOWTO.tex
	echo "==> TeX pass 3/3"
	tex "&jadetex" LPRng-HOWTO.tex
	dvips -o LPRng-HOWTO.ps LPRng-HOWTO.dvi

Now, what is that &*()(*& Perl Script doing here?  The answer is:

BUG FIX!  BUG FIX!  The freebsd.dsl style sheet has some very odd
steps that cause two NULL (\000\000) characters to be put out into
the TeX file,  instead of '5\p@'.  I have been here before with
some conversion scripts and KNOW this one only too well.

10. Why Not DocBook 4.0?  and the new DSSSL Style Sheets?  Tue Jun 13

   OK,  I was feeling frisky now,  I figured out what to do,
things were looking better.

So lets test ourselves:  Get the latest DocBook 4.0 and upgrade
to the latest style sheet and see if it is backwards compatible.
If not, then fix stuff up RIGHT NOW to make sure.

    http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/sgml/4.0/
    Get the zipped archive - docbk40.zip
    mkdir 4.0; cd 4.0; unzip ../docbk40.zip
    cp docbook.cat catalog
    edit catalog and COMMENT OUT THE PUBLIC IDS that are not
     non-4.0 release  (I read the warnings in the readme)

    cd  ..
    cp -r 4.0 /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook
    cat /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog
CATALOG "2.4.1/catalog"
CATALOG "3.0/catalog"
CATALOG "3.1/catalog"

    echo 'CATALOG "4.0/catalog"' >>/usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog
    vi some.test.document
     change "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook V3.1//EN" to
         "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook V4.0//EN"

    nsgmls -s some.test.document
      >>> get error message 'DTDDECL not supported'
         This tells you it is dragging in the right DTD

    vi /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/4.0/catalog
     and comment out the DTDDECL

    and you are done...  Easy!!! (Once you know how).

OK, now what about the style sheets?

http://nwalsh.com/docbook/dsssl/index.html

   Download db154.zip, db154d.zip
   unzip db154.zip
   unzip db154d.zip
    -> docbook/{all the stylesheet stuff}
   
Now it turns out that this stuff is stored in my distribution
in the /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular
directory.  So I did the following for testing:
   mv docbook docbook-1.54
   cp -r docbook-1.54 /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl

In my makefile I had a CATALOG entry:

CATALOGS= \
      -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog \
      -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/docbook-4.0/catalog

I changed this to
CATALOGS= \
      -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog \
      -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/docbook-1.54/catalog


I reran my tests AND they worked.  Some of the output was
a bit different,  but it LOOKED BETTER. Hmmm...

I had the following in the Makefile:
### --- see the comments below ---
	perl -spi -e 's/\000\000/5\\p\@/;' LPRng-HOWTO.tex
### ---

I removed it and ran the tests again.  This time tex did not
complain!  Soooo...  We have a nice new version installed.

Gee,  I am getting better at this.

And at this point I am at a stop... or rather finish.  The rest
seems to be simply tidying up and fighting with the DSSSL style
sheets,  TeX, and other things to get a 'pretty' format.

Patrick ("Slick talking SGML salesmen... gRRRR...") Powell

From papowell Tue Jun 13 10:04:55 2000
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:04:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: papowell
To: nik@freebsd.org
Subject: Slick Talking DocBook Salesman + Diary
Cc: papowell

Dear Nik:

Well, as I related to you,  I have thrown myself at the
DocBook stuff.  I am enclosing my notes I made as I did this
stuff.

Patrick Powell                 Astart Technologies,
papowell@astart.com            9475 Chesapeake Drive, Suite D,
Network and System             San Diego, CA 92123
  Consulting                   858-874-6543 FAX 858-279-8424 
LPRng - Print Spooler (http://www.astart.com)

                    The DocBook Experience
                       Patrick Powell


1. Overview and Introduction- Wed May  31

I promised that I would keep notes as I did this stuff,
and here is the running diary.

I wrote the LPRng Print Spooler software, which is currently
running on over 80 different UNIX or Posix-like systems.  The
two problems that I deal with are testing and documentation.

About a year ago at the 1999 FreeBSD Conference a smooth talking
SGML expert did a sales job on me for DocBook.

"Why stick to that old LinuxDoc stuff, move into the 21st century,
son," he said as he handed me another beer.  "DocBook does it all.
Sings, dances, graphics, multiple languages, and it is the way that
all FreeBSD documentation will go."

I was impressed.  However,  I remembered another sales job like
this and found out that while a similar product sang, it only knew
one song and that was obscene, it could only dance the polka,  it
needed an etch-a-sketch for an output device,  and the multiple
languages included Uru, Afghani, and Puktu, but did not include
English and French.

"OK, I will take a crack at using DocBook,  but you will be expected
to help me out on this, won't you?"  I said, directing a steely
glare into the eyes of the slick talking salesman.

"Yeah,  any time, just send me eamil,  no problem" was the reply.

Well,  I finally got around to deciding to use the DocBook stuff.
Actually,  what happened was that the current method I was using has
become so mangled that I forgot how to use it.

I decided to call the smooth talking salesman.  With a name like
Nik,  I should have known.  Sigh.  At least I did not sign my soul
away,  just some time.

"Uhhh... Did I promise some time?  Help?  Ummm...  I'm kinda
busy right now...  Are you sure we met?  Oh... Right.  Well,
tell you what,  why not give it a try and see what happens."

Sigh.  O.K., I was on my own on this.  So, remembering my standard
motto of dealing with the problem, "RTFM before you FU," I would
did the following:

a) Gather information
b) Hunted down examples
c) Push as far as I could
d) Beat on the authors/support groups
e) Record the steps so that others can benefit.

Right.  Back to the stone age. Hunting, gathering, territorial
agression, and drawing on the cave walls.  Sigh.  The benefits
of modern technology.

2. RTFM and more RTFM - Mon Jun  5

I decided that the best place to start was the FreeBSD Documentation
project web page:

     http://www.freebsd.org/docproj

This in turn led me to the DocProj primer.

    http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/sgml.html 

Now this was more like it.  I threw myself at the examples.
Yuch.  HTML from Hell.  Bad Taste XML.  But I'm tough,  I can
take it.  The first pass was OK - I got the idea.  I got the
port:

    /usr/ports/textproc/docproj

I read the bit about using TeX, and decided to see just how big
it was.

    cd /usr/ports/textproc/docproj
    make JADETEX=YES all install

Grind grind... download download... yawn yawn.  I gave up and
went off and did something else.  Six hours later I came back
just in time to read the comment about testing the distribution
go off the screen.

While I was waiting,  I had dropped into San Diego Technical Books,
and dropped my usual $100...  That place is almost as hard on my
bank account as Round Records,  but I digress.  I got

   DocBook - The Definitive Guide by Norm Walsh and Leonard
    Muellner.

I went home,  sat in the Comfy Chair,  and started reading
DocBook - the Definite Grunge...

3. Struggles with RTFM - Tue Jun  6

Eight hours later, this morning,  I woke up refreshed and still on
the Preface.  I drank 3 cups of coffee and sat on a rock in the
back garden,  at 4:00 AM.  I read the first 5 chapters, which look
REALLY FAMILIAR guys...  and start to make a bit more sense.

I reread the DocProj Primer (hard copy).  Went to the office, and
sat down at the terminal,  drank 2 more cups of coffee,  and started
in on the gathering...  I mean trying to get the downloaded stuff
to work.

I set up my Environment variables.

I did the exercises in the DocProj Primer.  I editted files, read
about the general and parameter entities, and had fun.  The simple
examples worked, much to my amazement.  Now for the good stuff -
lets produce the actual HTML output.

WHAT!  No directions in the Primer?  What...  Sigh... OK OK This
is one of the reasons I am doing this...

  PUT SOME INSTRUCTIONS IN THE PRIMER ON HOW TO PRODUCE
  HTML and RTF, Nik

  PUT SOME INSTRUCTIONS IN THE PRIMER ON HOW TO USE JADETEX!
  Or what the hell JadeTex IS...

  (Pant pant pant... There.  I feel better now.)

Lets read the Jade documentation.  Ummm... no man pages?

h4: {223} : jade -=
  usage is "jade [-vCegG2] [-b encoding] [-f error_file] \
  [-c catalog_sysid] [-D dir] [-a link_type] [-A arch] \
  [-E max_errors] [-i entity] [-w warning_type] [-d dsssl_spec] \
  [-V variable] [-t (fot|rtf|tex|sgml|xml)] [-o output_file] sysid..."

OK,  lets see what else there is:

find / -type f -name '*jade*' -print

Voila!
  /usr/ports/textproc/jade/work/jade-1.2.1/jade.htm

So I read the document.  This document contained the following stuff
that was to come to haunt me,  as being typical of the SMGL/Jade/DSSSL
universe -  written by those who know for those who know:

---- from the jade.htm page ---
# Using Jade
# 
# Add the directory containing the jade binary to your path, change
# directory to the dsssl directory, and do
# 
# jade demo.sgm
# 
# If everything is working, there should be a well-formed XML file
# demo.fot created.
# 
# The system identifier of the document to be processed is specified
# as an argument to Jade. If this is omitted, standard input will be
# read.
# 
# Jade determines the system identifier for the DSSSL specification
# as follows:
# 
#     1.If the -d option is specified, it will use the argument as
#     the system identifier.
# 
#     2.Otherwise, it will look for processing instructions in the
#     prolog of the document. Two kinds of processing instruction
#     are recognized:
# 
#        <?stylesheet href="sysid" type="text/dsssl"> 
# 
#       The system data of the processing instruction is parsed
#       like an SGML start-tag. It will be parsed using the
#       reference concrete syntax whatever the actual concrete
#       syntax of the document. The name that starts the processing
#       instruction can be either stylesheet, xml-stylesheet or
#       xml:stylesheet. The processing instruction will be ignored unless
#       the value of the type attribute is one of text/dsssl, text/x-dsssl,
#       application/dsssl, or application/x-dsssl. The value of href
#       attribute is the system identifier of the DSSSL specification.
# 
#        <?dsssl sysid> 
# 
#     The system identifier is the portion of the system data
#     of the processing instruction following the initial name
#     and any whitespace.
# 
#       Although the processing instruction is only recognized in
#       the prolog, it need not occur in the document entity. For
#       example, it could occur in a DTD. The system identifier will
#       be interpreted relative to where the the processing instruction
#       occurs.
# 
#     3. Otherwise, it will use the system identifier of the document
#        with any extension changed to .dsl.
# 
-----  end ---- 

OK,  I admit it.  After reading this I had severe mental cramps
and had to resort to theraputic treatment.  Two beers for lunch
later I was ready for more.

"Where had I read this stuff before?  Ahh... The DocBook - The
Definitive Guide."  So I reread the first couple chapters.  I then
reread this.

It was coming clearer - Now I understand where and what to do.

4. Try A Real Working Example - Wed Jun  7

I suddenly realized that there were some examples to look at: the
CVS tree.  So I reread section 7.2 of the DocProj Primer, and
decided to try it:

  mkdir /var/tmp/webuild
  cd /var/tmp/webuild
  CVSROOT=/home/ncvs ; export CVSROOT
  cvs -r co www doc

 --- ugly messages about no www ---
  So I go to the /usr/src/share/examples  and discover a
  www-supfile.

No explanation of the differences between www and doc directories,
but Hey!  I am used to this.  Probably somewhere in the non-existent
as-of-yet documenters guide.  I guess.

So I add this to the cvs list,  download the cvs, and redo:

  cvs -r co www doc
  cd www
  make links
  cd en
  make all

And there is a flurry of activity... as shell scripts get executed,
and ... jade is called... and HTML forms of the document is produced.

I looked at the output of the Make process and choose a victim...
I mean sample.  Why not use the FreeBSD Documentation Project Primer
as the starting point?

/usr/local/bin/jade -ioutput.html -V nochunks
   -c /var/tmp/webuild/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/../../../share/sgml/catalog
  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog
  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog
  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog
  -d /var/tmp/webuild/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl
  -t sgml
  /var/tmp/webuild/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/book.sgml > book.html

5. The Conversion Process - Thu Jun 8

In email that I got from Nik ("really, its very easy"), he said
(with keyboard in cheek, most likely):
#
#  > b) I have stuff in the LinuxBook form - is there an easy way
#  > to convert?
# 
#  Yes and no.
#  
#  Go to http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/doc/en/handbook/Attic/
#  and look at the README file.  This covers the steps I took to convert
#  the Handbook from LinuxDoc to DocBook.  The raw conversion can be automated,
#  but because DocBook is a 'richer' markup than LinuxDoc, you then have to
#  go through it adjusting the automatic markup choices with more appropriate
#  ones.
#

So I pulled down the document,  read it (well,  I scanned it once,
then reread up to section 4).  This looked pretty straight forward:

a)  you run this shell script
b)  you get rid of bad stuff
c)  you get rid of bad stuff
    (iterate until happy)

Being the logical scientific experimenter I am,  I carefully
cloned my FreeBSD system and ran this procedure on another machine.
Been there, done this, before.  Yeah...

I ran the script.  It took about 10 seconds.  I was suprised.
I then ran nsgmls on the output.   OOOPPPSSS!  Lots and lots
of warning, messages, and stuff.

About 60 minutes of futzing with silly stuff that was actually
caused by mistakes in the original (missing this, that and the
other)  I got a parseable document.

So now I took a deep breath and rattle the keys:

    /usr/local/bin/jade -ioutput.html -V nochunks \
     -c /var/tmp/webuild/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/../../../share/sgml/catalog \
     -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog \
     -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog \
     -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog \
     -d /var/tmp/webuild/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl \
     -t sgml $(DOC).sgml > handbook.html

Error messages from HELL!  Weird messages.  STRANNNGE message.
Cross references to anchors?  Sigh...

Back to the editor...  typeity typeity type type type type...
far into the afternoon.

6. The Patch and Fix Process - Fri Jun 9

Bright and early here,  sitting at the terminal,  and armed with
fresh coffee,  I prepare to hit the DocBook Trail again.

OK,  before I edit the document again,  why not read some documentation?
I reread the http://nwalsh.com/docbook/dsssl/ stuff that Norm
Walsh had published.  I reread the freebsd.dsl file - you know, this
is starting to make sense.  Then I reread the DocBook - The extremely
Vague Answer to Life, The Universe, and Formatting, Part 1 again.

This time stuff was starting to make sense, and I was getting a
better handle on the model used.  Just for fun,  here is what,
at this point,  my understanding is.  Now remember,  this is based
on only reading the aformentioned (run THAT through your spell checker)
documents.

a)  The 'markup' used is very very simple- you have
    a set of elements with attributes that you use
    to create a parse tree.  Any resemblance between
    this and LISP is coincidental,  and get your mind
    out of the gutter.  We use '<xx>' and '</xx>' not
    '(' and ')' close,  and we match the '<xx>' to '</xx>'
    and not like LISP.  Right.  Sure.  Tell me another one.
    OK OK,  if you insist.  Like SCHEME.  Not LISP.

b)  Parsing is simply the matter of building a tree (or
    even a DAG I suspect), each node of which corresponds
    to an 'element' object,  and which can have sub-nodes.

    Also, each node can be 'decorated' with 'attributes'
    which are assigned to it.

    The SMGL parsing rules simply say what and in what
    order the subnodes may appear and what attribute
    values must be present.  Also, how deep the tree can
    be and if some 'element' types can be in the subtree.

    (This sure looks like something that would appear as
    'An Advanced Exercise' in Ableson and Sussman...
    I note that there are a set of tools that build
    trees and forests from XML and SGML^H^H^H^HDocBook
    source, but I digress... Interesting...)

c)  Now we get to the really interesting stuff - generating
    the actual 'readable output'.

    The DSSSL (Document Style Semantics and Specification
    Language) carry the walking and decoration onto another level.
    The DSSSL lanaguage appears to be a way to define how to
    'walk' the tree, decorating each node with information.
    The 'decorated nodes'  would then be used to generate output.

    The DocBook DSSSL Stylesheet is then simply a specification
    that is used by a 'tree walker'  to do the decoration,
    and then the flattening/conversion to an output stream.

    I think this is kinda neat.  Now,  of course,  there is NO
    relationship between this methodology and the way that some
    optimizing compilers work.  Right!  That is exactly what most
    of them do,  they build up a tree of syntax nodes,  decorate
    them with 'code to be emitted'  and then 'string the code
    together' and produce the output file.  Again, the similarities
    of the two methodologies are interesting.

This starts looking more and more understandable.

Lets go back to the mystery stuff that I read before:

> Jade determines the system identifier for the DSSSL specification
> as follows:
> 
>     1.If the -d option is specified, it will use the argument as
>     the system identifier.
> 
   Cool.  This is the purpose of the -d flag... Now I know.
   This allows me to specify the Style Sheet, say, docbook.dsl,
   or even papowell.dsl

>    3. Otherwise, it will use the system identifier of the document
>       with any extension changed to .dsl.

   Hey,  that means I can put my own DSSSL stylesheet in place,
   and have it contain the stuff I want on a per document basis.
   Nice idea.

7. The First Stuff Out - Sat Jun 10

   OK, lets try out some ideas.  Here is the first line of the
   LPRng.sgml

<!DOCTYPE book PUBLIC
 "-//FreeBSD//DTD DocBook V3.1-Based Extension//EN"
[
  <!ENTITY LPRng "LPRng">
]>

Here is the Makefile I am using:

CATALOGS= \
     -c /var/tmp/webuild/doc/share/sgml/catalog \
     -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog \
     -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog \
     -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog
html:
    /usr/local/bin/jade -ioutput.html -V nochunks \
     -d /var/tmp/webuild/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl \
    $(CATALOGS) \
     -t sgml LPRng.sgml > LPRng.html

check:
    #nsgmls -sv -f handbook.errs handbook.sgml
    nsgmls -sv $(CATALOGS) LPRng.sgml

clean:
    rm -f LPRng.html LPRng.errs *.htm

I spent the rest of the day editing the LPRng.sgml file,
reading the freebsd.dsl and freebsd.dtd files and their
little friends, and fixing up the formatting in the LPRng.sgml
file.

8. Do I Understand This Stuff - Sun Jun 11

Right.  Here it is Sunday,  and I am sitting at home,  armed with
my network connection and lots of sloth.

Lets if I now understand what is happening.  I will walk through
the various parts of files and commands that I am using to generate
the HTML output.

Here is the header of my LPRng.sgml file:

<!DOCTYPE book PUBLIC
 "-//FreeBSD//DTD DocBook V3.1-Based Extension//EN"
[
  <!ENTITY LPRng "LPRng">
]>

Now lets see if we can find out what catalog the PID for the DTD
is defined in (gAHHH... I am starting to use the jargon).  The #
is used to indicate file contents.  I have removed whitespace and
some 'filler' comments.

/var/tmp/webuild/doc/share/sgml/catalog

#   -- ...................................................................... --
#   -- FreeBSD SGML Public Identifiers ...................................... --
#   -- Language neutral ..................................................... --
#   -- These identifiers are shared across all translations of the FreeBSD
#      documentation, even though the listed language is "EN"
#   --
# PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//DTD DocBook V3.1-Based Extension//EN" "freebsd.dtd"
# PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Manual Page Entities//EN" "man-refs.ent"
#   -- These identifiers should only be used by English language versions of 
#      the FreeBSD Documentation.
#      All other translations should base their FPIs on these, but change the
#      final parameter in the FPI to represent the target language, as 
#      appropriate.  Do not change the rest of the FPI
#   --
# PUBLIC    "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook BookInfo Entities//EN" 
#   "../../en_US.ISO_8859-1/share/sgml/bookinfo.ent"
# PUBLIC  "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Author Entities//EN"
#         "../../en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/authors.ent"

Now if I understand this:

The "-//FreeBSD//DTD DocBook V3.1-Based Extension//EN" means
  I use the the freebsd.dtd file.
  --- OK - this will be DTD stuff, I understand this now.

The "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Manual Page Entities//EN" means
  I use the "man-refs.ent" file.
  --- OK - this is proably a set of entities that we can use.

  Lets take a little peek:
  more /var/tmp/webuild/doc/share/sgml/man-refs.ent
    <!ENTITY man.at.1 "<citerefentry/<refentrytitle/at/<manvolnum/1//">
    <!ENTITY man.awk.1 "<citerefentry/<refentrytitle/awk/<manvolnum/1//">
    ....

  Bingo!  It looks like we are doing better now.  And also I like
  the sneaky way that the <citerefentry/ stuff is done... :-)

I grep through the FDP.sgml (ok, the 'book.sgml')
file and pull out this:

<!ENTITY % man PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Manual Page Entities//EN">
 %man;

OOOHHH... I understand this!  We are going to define
an ENTITY (% -> parameter entity), with the name 'man' and using 
Formal Public Identifier (PUBLIC indicates this) "-../EN".

This now allows us to use the entity.  We do this with '%man;' which
is the way that we get the entity definition file processed by the
parser.

Ummm... This is really not as bad as I thought.

Now lets move on to see what the freebsd.dtd file contains.
I have removed a bunch of whitespace and 'filler' comments.

/var/tmp/webuild/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dtd

# <!-- FreeBSD Documentation Project, Extended DocBook DTD
#      This DTD builds upon the DocBook 3.1 DTD. It extends it in order to
#      add some new elements.
#      The comment style and section headings are drawn from the DocBook DTD.
#      The FPI for this DTD is "-//FreeBSD//DTD DocBook V3.1-Based Extension//EN"
# -->
# <!ENTITY % output.html  "IGNORE">    <!-- HTML output is being generated   -->
# <!ENTITY % output.print "IGNORE">    <!-- Print output is being generated  -->
# <!ENTITY % local.list.class "|FAQList">
# <!ENTITY % local.tech.char.class "|HostID|Username|Devicename|MakeTarget|MakeVar">

OK, we define some parameter entities.  The 'output.html' and
'output.print' seem to be familiar... Yes,  it appears in the
jade command:
    /usr/local/bin/jade -ioutput.html -V nochunks
   ... [-i entity]

And after a bit of a search, we find that the nsgmls.htm file
in the jade distribution has the following:

  -iname 
       Pretend that 
       <!ENTITY % name "INCLUDE">
       occurs at the start of the document type declaration subset
       in the SGML document entity. Since repeated definitions of
       an entity are ignored, this definition will take precedence
       over any other definitions of this entity in the document
       type declaration. Multiple -i options are allowed. If the
       SGML declaration replaces the reserved name INCLUDE then
       the new reserved name will be the replacement text of the
       entity. Typically the document type declaration will contain
       <!ENTITY % name "IGNORE">
       and will use %name; in the status keyword specification of
       a marked section declaration. In this case the effect of
       the option will be to cause the marked section not to be
       ignored.

So we see how we use -ioutput.html to set the %output.html to
INCLUDE and this will now include the stuff for generating HTML.
I we were to use -ioutput.print we would get the print
formatting stuff.  Makes sense now.

Lets see what is in the rest of the file...

# 
# <!-- OS Version attributes ...............................................
#      Each element has three attributes which specify which version(s) of
#      FreeBSD the element's content applies to.  It is up to the
#      pre-processor to include or exclude elements based on the value of
#      these attributes.                                                     -->
# <!ENTITY % local.common.attrib
#      "OSVersionMin        CDATA        #IMPLIED
#       OSVersionMax        CDATA        #IMPLIED
#       OSVersionIn         CDATA        #IMPLIED">
# 

This looks evil.  EVIL!  Sigh... The things people will do to get around
missing stuff...  So you are going to add some 'general attributes'
that allow you to set some OS versions...  OK,  I get this... sorta...


# <!-- Altered general entities ............................................
#      The HTML 4.0 DTD includes some new ISO entities. Most browsers don't
#      support them yet. Change the definition of some of these entities to
#      character strings that the browsers will support.
#      This does not apply when generating printed output, so these are 
#      contained within a %output.html; marked section.
#      As browser technology improves, these definitions can be removed.     -->
# 
# <![ %output.html; [
# <!ENTITY ldquo  "``">
# <!ENTITY rdquo  "''">
# <!ENTITY lsquo  "`">
# <!ENTITY rsquo  "'">
# <!ENTITY mdash  "--">
# <!ENTITY ndash  "-">
# <!ENTITY hellip "...">
# <!ENTITY dollar "$">
# ]]>

Snicker.... Ohhh... the joys of moving target standards...
So you wanna use it but it is not there yet.

# 
# <!-- Pull in the original DTD -->
# <!ENTITY % orig-docbook PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook V3.1//EN">
# %orig-docbook;

And here is where we pull in the original stuff,  and the previous
declarations get overridden.

# 
# <!ELEMENT HostID - - ((%cptr.char.mix;)+)>
# <!ATTLIST HostID
#                 --
#                 Role: More specific information about this hostname.
#                 If not specified then the default is 'hostname'.
#                 --
#                 Role    (Hostname
#                         |Domainname
#                         |FQDN
#                         |IPAddr
#                         |Netmask
#                         |MAC)      #IMPLIED
#                 %common.attrib;
# >

Hmmm... this is interesting... so this is how we extend the DTD.

# 
# <!ELEMENT Username - - ((%cptr.char.mix;)+)>
# <!ATTLIST Username
#                 %common.attrib;
# >
# 
# <!ELEMENT Devicename - - ((%cptr.char.mix;)+)>
# <!ATTLIST Devicename
#                 %common.attrib;
# >
# 
# <!ELEMENT MakeTarget - - ((%cptr.char.mix;)+)>
# <!ATTLIST MakeTarget
#                 %common.attrib;
# >
# 
# <!ELEMENT MakeVar - - ((%cptr.char.mix;)+)>
# <!ATTLIST MakeVar
#                 %common.attrib;
# >
# <!ENTITY prompt.root      "<prompt>#</prompt>">
# <!ENTITY prompt.user      "<prompt>%</prompt>">

Looks simple NOW.  OK, so we know what the DTD does.
Lets look at the DSSSL.  I decided to start with this one:

/var/tmp/webuild/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl

# <!DOCTYPE style-sheet PUBLIC "-//James Clark//DTD DSSSL Style Sheet//EN" [
# <!ENTITY freebsd.dsl SYSTEM "../../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl" CDATA DSSSL>
# <!ENTITY % output.html  "IGNORE"> 
# <!ENTITY % output.print "IGNORE">
# ]>
# 

Been here before,  and we see the 'output.html' strike again.
I noticed the CDATA DSSSL stuff, but it is not documented anywhere,
so I guess this is part of the DSSSL language specification.

# <style-sheet>
#   <style-specification use="docbook">
#     <style-specification-body>
#  
#       <![ %output.html; [ 
#       (define ($email-footer$)
#           (make sequence
#             (literal "For questions about FreeBSD, e-mail <")
#             (make element gi: "a"
#                   attributes: (list (list "href" "mailto:questions@FreeBSD.org"))
#               (literal "questions@FreeBSD.org"))
#             (literal ">.")
#             (make empty-element gi: "br")
#             (literal "For questions about this documentation, e-mail <")
#               (make element gi: "a"
#                     attributes: (list (list "href" "mailto:doc@FreeBSD.org"))
#                 (literal "doc@FreeBSD.org"))
#             (literal ">."))) 
#       ]]>
#     </style-specification-body>
#   </style-specification>

OK, we define an 'eamil-footer' decoration thing.  The definition
looks kinda obvious.  I reread the "DocBook - the Cure for Insomnia"
section on extending style sheets and this makes sense... but I
don't have the faintest idea what it DOES :-).

# 
#   <external-specification id="docbook" document="freebsd.dsl">

And now we drag the 'freebsd.dsl' in, from above
# </style-sheet>

And we are at the end.  OK, lets get the 'freebsd.dsl':
  "../../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl"

/var/tmp/webuild/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl

# <!DOCTYPE style-sheet PUBLIC "-//James Clark//DTD DSSSL Style Sheet//EN" [
# <!ENTITY % output.html  "IGNORE">
# <!ENTITY % output.print "IGNORE">
# 
# <![ %output.html; [
# <!ENTITY docbook.dsl PUBLIC "-//Norman Walsh//DOCUMENT DocBook HTML Stylesheet//EN" CDATA DSSSL>
# ]]>
# <![ %output.print; [
# <!ENTITY docbook.dsl PUBLIC "-//Norman Walsh//DOCUMENT DocBook Print Stylesheet//EN" CDATA DSSSL>
# 
# ]]>
# ]>

OK.  So if it is HTML we use James Clark's HTML style sheet,
otherwise we use the Print style sheet.  Makes sense.

# 
# <style-sheet>
#   <style-specification use="docbook">
#     <style-specification-body>
#       <!-- HTML only .................................................... -->
#       <![ %output.html; [
#         <!-- Configure the stylesheet using documented variables -->
#         (define %gentext-nav-use-tables%
#           ;; Use tables to build the navigation headers and footers?

            ^^^ SCHEME comments?  Right.  I should have known...

#           #t)
#         (define %html-ext%
#           ;; Default extension for HTML output files
#           ".html")
#         (define %shade-verbatim%
#           ;; Should verbatim environments be shaded?
#           #f)
#         (define %use-id-as-filename%
#           ;; Use ID attributes as name for component HTML files?
#           #t)
#         (define %root-filename%
#           ;; Name for the root HTML document
#           "index")
#         (define html-manifest
#           ;; Write a manifest?
#           #f)
#         (element segmentedlist
#           (make element gi: "TABLE"
#             (process-children)))
#         (element seglistitem
#           (make element gi: "TR"
#             (process-children)))
#         (element seg
#           (make element gi: "TD"
#                 attributes: '(("VALIGN" "TOP"))
#             (process-children)))
# 
#         <!-- The next two definitions control the appearance of an
#              e-mail footer at the bottom of each page. -->
# 
#         <!-- This is the text to display at the bottom of each page.
#              Defaults to nothing.  The individual stylesheets should
#              redefine this as necessary. -->
#         (define ($email-footer$)
#           (empty-sosofo))

Ohh... very clever.  You define this in the other style sheet,
like we saw.

# 
#         <!-- This code handles displaying $email-footer$ at the bottom
#              of each page.
# 
#              If "nuchunks" is turned on then we make sure that an <hr>
#              is shown first.

Ummmm... do we mean 'nochunks' ?  Sigh...

# 
#              Then create a centered paragraph ("<p>"), and reduce the font
#              size ("<small>").  Then run $email-footer$, which should
#              create the text and links as necessary. -->
# 	(define ($html-body-end$)
#           (if (equal? $email-footer$ (normalize ""))
#             (empty-sosofo)

.....  Boring stuff deleted

# 
#     </style-specification-body>
#   </style-specification>
# 
#   <external-specification id="docbook" document="docbook.dsl">

And now we do the 'drag in another stylesheet' trick...

# </style-sheet>

OK.  So we could copy this and define our own style sheets.

I copied the freebsd.dtd to LPRng-HOWTO.dtd, and the
freebsd.dsl to LPRng-HOWTO.dsl.

Here is the Makefile after we copy this stuff,  and our
header from LPRng.sgml:

<!DOCTYPE book
  SYSTEM "LPRng-HOWTO.dtd"
 -- PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//DTD DocBook V3.1-Based Extension//EN" --
 -- PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook V3.1//EN" --
[
  <!ENTITY LPRng "LPRng">
]>

# CATALOGS= \
# 	  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog \
# 	  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog
# LPRng-HOWTO.html: LPRng-HOWTO.sgml LPRng-HOWTO.dsl
# 	jade \
# 	  -i output.html -V nochunks \
# 		$(CATALOGS) \
# 	  -d LPRng-HOWTO.dsl \
# 	  -t sgml \
# 	    LPRng-HOWTO.sgml >LPRng-HOWTO.html
# check:
# 	#nsgmls -s -f handbook.errs handbook.sgml
# 	nsgmls -s $(CATALOGS) LPRng-HOWTO.sgml
# 
# clean:
# 	rm -f LPRng.html LPRng.errs x*.htm c*.htm b*.htm

I ran this and it worked the first time.  Produced identical
output as well...

Cool...

I spent the rest of Sunday fixing up various formats, and playing
with tables.

9. On to Special Effects Mon Jun 12

   OK, I have the 'one big html file',  how do I get the 'lots of
   little html files?'  I looked in the FDP Makefile and spotted:
   FORMATS="html split-html"

   Ummmm... it couldn't be that simple, could it?  Well, it was.

     make FORMATS=split-html

   Sorta.  You also need to have a 'manifest' file.  Here is the
   required steps.

  # Makefile
  CATALOGS= \
	  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog \
	  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog
  index.html HTML.manifest: LPRng-HOWTO.sgml LPRng-HOWTO.dsl
	jade -i output.html -V html-manifest $(CATALOGS) \
	  -d LPRng-HOWTO.dsl -t sgml LPRng-HOWTO.sgml
	-tidy -i -m -f /dev/null ${TIDYFLAGS} `xargs < HTML.manifest`

ARGHHH!!! ARGHH!!! This produces a lot of files, one per section.
I wanted one per chapter.  OK, perhaps this was not such a good idea.
Or perhaps there is a hidden mystery flag that will fix this
up,  and be compatible with the old LinuxDoc convention.

OK, lets see what we can do with PostScript:
    make FORMATS=ps

And we get the equivalent:

  LPRng-HOWTO.ps:
	jade -Vtex-backend -ioutput.print -t tex -o LPRng-HOWTO.tex \
		$(CATALOGS) \
	  -d LPRng-HOWTO.dsl \
	    LPRng-HOWTO.sgml
### --- see the comments below ---
	perl -spi -e 's/\000\000/5\\p\@/;' LPRng-HOWTO.tex
### ---
	echo "==> TeX pass 1/3"
	tex "&jadetex" LPRng-HOWTO.tex
	echo "==> TeX pass 2/3"
	tex "&jadetex" LPRng-HOWTO.tex
	echo "==> TeX pass 3/3"
	tex "&jadetex" LPRng-HOWTO.tex
	dvips -o LPRng-HOWTO.ps LPRng-HOWTO.dvi

Now, what is that &*()(*& Perl Script doing here?  The answer is:

BUG FIX!  BUG FIX!  The freebsd.dsl style sheet has some very odd
steps that cause two NULL (\000\000) characters to be put out into
the TeX file,  instead of '5\p@'.  I have been here before with
some conversion scripts and KNOW this one only too well.

10. Why Not DocBook 4.0?  and the new DSSSL Style Sheets?  Tue Jun 13

   OK,  I was feeling frisky now,  I figured out what to do,
things were looking better.

So lets test ourselves:  Get the latest DocBook 4.0 and upgrade
to the latest style sheet and see if it is backwards compatible.
If not, then fix stuff up RIGHT NOW to make sure.

    http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/sgml/4.0/
    Get the zipped archive - docbk40.zip
    mkdir 4.0; cd 4.0; unzip ../docbk40.zip
    cp docbook.cat catalog
    edit catalog and COMMENT OUT THE PUBLIC IDS that are not
     non-4.0 release  (I read the warnings in the readme)

    cd  ..
    cp -r 4.0 /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook
    cat /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog
CATALOG "2.4.1/catalog"
CATALOG "3.0/catalog"
CATALOG "3.1/catalog"

    echo 'CATALOG "4.0/catalog"' >>/usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog
    vi some.test.document
     change "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook V3.1//EN" to
         "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook V4.0//EN"

    nsgmls -s some.test.document
      >>> get error message 'DTDDECL not supported'
         This tells you it is dragging in the right DTD

    vi /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/4.0/catalog
     and comment out the DTDDECL

    and you are done...  Easy!!! (Once you know how).

OK, now what about the style sheets?

http://nwalsh.com/docbook/dsssl/index.html

   Download db154.zip, db154d.zip
   unzip db154.zip
   unzip db154d.zip
    -> docbook/{all the stylesheet stuff}
   
Now it turns out that this stuff is stored in my distribution
in the /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular
directory.  So I did the following for testing:
   mv docbook docbook-1.54
   cp -r docbook-1.54 /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl

In my makefile I had a CATALOG entry:

CATALOGS= \
      -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog \
      -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/docbook-4.0/catalog

I changed this to
CATALOGS= \
      -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog \
      -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/docbook-1.54/catalog


I reran my tests AND they worked.  Some of the output was
a bit different,  but it LOOKED BETTER. Hmmm...

I had the following in the Makefile:
### --- see the comments below ---
	perl -spi -e 's/\000\000/5\\p\@/;' LPRng-HOWTO.tex
### ---

I removed it and ran the tests again.  This time tex did not
complain!  Soooo...  We have a nice new version installed.

Gee,  I am getting better at this.

And at this point I am at a stop... or rather finish.  The rest
seems to be simply tidying up and fighting with the DSSSL style
sheets,  TeX, and other things to get a 'pretty' format.

Patrick ("Slick talking SGML salesmen... gRRRR...") Powell



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OK,  how do you get the 'edition' information to come out in the
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Is it possible to use the Sound Blaster 128 on FreeBSD 
using X Windows?
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Is it possible to use the Sound Blaster 128 on FreeBSD 
using X Windows?
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is it in the freebsd handbook if so what page?




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Synopsis: tell the readers that this is indeed the upgrade kit

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Committed, thanks.

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>Number:         19299
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/share/sgml/legalnotice.sgml
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
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>Quarter:        
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<!-- 
     Standard FreeBSD Documentation Project Legal Notice.

     $FreeBSD: Exp $
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<legalnotice>
  <para>òÅÄÉÓÔÒÉÂØÀÃÉÑ É ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÎÉÅ ÉÓÈÏÄÎÙÈ (SGML DocBook) É 'ÓËÏÍÐÉÌÉÒÏ×ÁÎÎÙÈ'
    ÆÏÒÍ (SGML, HTML, PDF, PostScript, RTF É ÐÒÏÞÉÈ) Ó ÍÏÄÉÆÉËÁÃÉÅÊ ÉÌÉ ÂÅÚ ÏÎÏÊ,
    ÒÁÚÒÅÛÅÎÙ ÐÒÉ ÓÏÂÌÀÄÅÎÉÉ ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÉÈ ÓÏÇÌÁÛÅÎÉÊ:</para>

  <orderedlist>
    <listitem>
      <para>òÅÄÉÓÔÒÉÂØÀÃÉÉ ÉÓÈÏÄÎÏÇÏ ËÏÄÁ (SGML DocBook) ÄÏÌÖÎÙ ÓÏÈÒÁÎÑÔØ
        ×ÙÛÅÕÐÏÍÑÎÕÔÙÅ ÏÂßÑ×ÌÅÎÉÑ copyright, ÜÔÏÔ ÓÐÉÓÏË ÐÏÌÏÖÅÎÉÊ É ÓÏÈÒÁÎÑÔØ ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÉÊ
        ÏÔËÁÚ ÏÔ ÐÒÁ×Á × ÐÅÒ×ÙÈ ÓÔÒÏËÁÈ ÜÔÏÇÏ ÆÁÊÌÁ ÎÅÍÏÄÉÆÉÃÉÒÏ×ÁÎÎÙÍ.</para>
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        ËÏÎ×ÅÒÔÁÃÉÑ × PDF, PostScript, RTF É ÄÒÕÇÉÅ ÆÏÒÍÁÔÙ) ÄÏÌÖÎÙ
        ÐÏ×ÔÏÒÑÔØ ×ÙÛÅÕÐÏÍÑÎÕÔÙÅ ÏÂßÑ×ÌÅÎÉÑ copyright, ÜÔÏÔ ÓÐÉÓÏË ÐÏÌÏÖÅÎÉÊ É
        É ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÉÊ ÏÔËÁÚ × ÄÏËÕÍÅÎÔÁÃÉÉ É/ÉÌÉ ÄÒÕÇÉÈ ÍÁÔÅÒÉÁÌÁÈ, ÐÏÓÔÁ×ÌÑÅÍÙÈ
        Ó ÄÉÓÔÒÉÂØÀÃÉÅÊ.</para>
    </listitem>
  </orderedlist>

  <important>
    <para>üôá äïëõíåîôáãéñ ðïóôá÷ìñåôóñ ðòïåëôïí äïëõíåîôáãéé FREEBSD
      "ëáë åóôø" é ìàâùå ñ÷îùå éìé îåñ÷îùå çáòáîôéé, ÷ëìàþáñ, îï îå ïçòáîéþé÷áñóø
      îåñ÷îùíé çáòáîôéñíé, ëïííåòþåóëïê ãåîîïóôé é ðòéçïäîïóôé äìñ ëïîëòåôîïê ãåìé
      ïôòéãáàôóñ. îé ÷ ëïåí óìõþáå òåçåîôù éìé õþáóôîéëé îå äïìöîù âùôø
      ïô÷åôóô÷åîîùíé úá ìàâïê ðòñíïê, ëïó÷åîîùê, óìõþáêîùê, óðåãéáìøîùê,
      ïâòáúãï÷ùê éìé ðïóìåäõàýéê õýåòâù (÷ëìàþáñ, îï îå ïçòáîéþé÷áñóø ðïóôá÷ëïê
      ôï÷áòï÷ úáíåîù éìé õóìõç; ðïôåòà äáîîùè éìé éè îåðòá÷éìøîõà ðåòåäáþõ éìé
      ðïôåòé; ðòéïóôáîï÷ìåîéå âéúîåóá), é ôåí îå íåîåå ÷ùú÷áîîùå é ÷ ìàâïê ôåïòéé
      ïô÷åôóô÷åîîïóôé, îåúá÷éóéíï ïô ëïîôòáëôîïê, óôòïçïê ïô÷åôóô÷åîîïóôé, éìé
      ðòá÷ïîáòõûåîéé (÷ëìàþáñ èáìáôîïóôø éìé éîùí óðïóïâïí), ÷ïúîéëûåí
      ìàâùí ðõôåí ðòé éóðïìøúï÷áîéé üôïçï ðòïçòáííîïçï ïâåóðåþåîéñ, äáöå åóìé
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I'll take it

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>Number:         19300
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hi,

Just to let you know -- if you're translating handbook to russian.
This work is alrady in progress and all base staff (like you sent
in this mail) is already translated. And about 10 chapters already
translated (or translating now). Feel free to write me directly
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On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 04:03:08PM +0300, Alexey Zelkin wrote:
> hi,
> 
> Just to let you know -- if you're translating handbook to russian.
> This work is alrady in progress and all base staff (like you sent
> in this mail) is already translated. And about 10 chapters already
> translated (or translating now). Feel free to write me directly
> and join us.

OK. And some questions:
Why that 10 chapters still not commit on tree?
Where I can get list of already translated chapters?
-- 

Rgdz,
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hi,

On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 05:14:11PM +0400, Sergey A. Osokin wrote:
 
> OK. And some questions:
> Why that 10 chapters still not commit on tree?

Because since CVS server of the FreeBSD Russian Documentation Project is
set up we moved all activities there. And we decided to do all translation work
on this CVS Repo, and just commit updates to the main CVS Repo. When at least
50% of the handbook  will be translated I will import it to the main
source tree.

> Where I can get list of already translated chapters?

As you can remember I sent an announcement to ru-freebsd-doc mailing list
and you can find more comments in its archive (http://freebsd.ru:8100/)

But in few words:

CVSup server: cvs.FreeBSD.org.ua
Collection: frdp

Unfortunately Real Life (tm) intruded to my project activities and web server
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To: Jim Mock <jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com>
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On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 03:42:18PM -0700, Jim Mock wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 at 22:17:07 +0100, Mark Ovens wrote:
> > I keep getting errors when trying to build the www docs. Can someone
> > help me out here please? I've tried to figure it out from the
> > Makefiles but without success.
> 
> Hmm, works ok over here.  Try this..
> 
>    cd /usr/www
>    make links

I had to make empty directories for ja, ru, etc. and then ``make
links'' worked.

>    cd en
>    make ENGLISH_ONLY=yes WEB_ONLY=YES -DNOPORTSCVS all

Ah, -DNOPORTSCVS! OK, it's built now but there seems to be a lot
missing, but most of that appears to be stuff in the handbook and FAQ.
Should linkd to those not be created? I tried

       make ENGLISH_ONLY=yes WEB_ONLY=YES -DNOPORTSCVS install

Which installed it in /usr/usr/root/public_html/data/, is that
correct?

> 
> I'm doing it on a copy of the www tree checked out from my local
> repository and updated as of about 10 minutes ago.
> 
> You can also check out http://wolfram.schneider.org/papers/webbuild.html
> if you get stuck.
> 
> - jim
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>Number:         19302
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Nits, handbook chapter 2
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Thu Jun 15 08:30:00 PDT 2000
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>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Daniel Harris
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386
>Organization:
no
>Environment:

	

>Description:

	Come, on, read the diff yourself.  A few install/installation nits;
	the rest are just tyops and think-os.

>How-To-Repeat:

	

>Fix:

	

--- /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/install/chapter.sgml	Wed Jun 14 00:40:05 2000
+++ chapter.sgml	Thu Jun 15 11:09:38 2000
@@ -14,15 +14,15 @@
     <title>Synopsis</title>
 
     <para>The following chapter will attempt to guide you through the
-      install of FreeBSD on your system.  It can be installed through a
+      installation of FreeBSD on your system.  It can be installed through a
       variety of methods, including anonymous FTP (assuming you have
       network connectivity via modem or local network), CDROM, floppy
       disk, tape, an MS-DOS partition, or even NFS.</para>
 
     <para>No matter which method you choose, you will need to get started
       by creating the <emphasis>installation disks</emphasis> as described
-      in the <link linkend="install-floppies">next section</link>.  By
-      booting into the FreeBSD installer, even if you are not planning on
+      in the <link linkend="install-floppies">next section</link>.
+      Booting into the FreeBSD installer, even if you are not planning on
       installing FreeBSD right away, will provide important information
       about compatibility with your hardware.  This information may
       dictate which installation options are even possible for you.  It
@@ -32,7 +32,7 @@
     <para>If you plan to install FreeBSD via anonymous FTP, the only
       things you will need are the <link
       linkend="install-floppies">installation floppies</link>.  The
-      install program itself will handle anything else that is
+      installation program itself will handle anything else that is
       required.</para>
 
     <para>For more information about obtaining FreeBSD, see the <link
@@ -54,10 +54,10 @@
       <title>Preparing for the Installation</title>
 
       <para>There are various things you should do in preparation for the
-        install.  The following describes what needs to be done prior to
+        installation.  The following describes what needs to be done prior to
 	each type of installation.</para>
 
-      <para>The first thing you should do is make sure your hardware is
+      <para>The first thing to do is to make sure your hardware is
 	supported by FreeBSD.  The list of <link
 	linkend="install-hw">supported hardware</link> should
 	come in handy here. ;-)  It would also be a good idea to make a
@@ -74,7 +74,7 @@
 	  installation boot disks from the image files, do the
 	  following:</para>
 
-	<para>The first thing you will need to do is download the image
+	<para>Download the image
 	  files.  These can be retrieved from the <ulink
 	  url="ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/&rel.current;-RELEASE/floppies/">floppies directory</ulink>
 	  of the FreeBSD FTP site or your local mirror.</para>
@@ -140,8 +140,8 @@
 	<para>If the CD has El Torito boot support and your system
 	  supports booting directly from the CDROM drive (many older
 	  systems do <emphasis>NOT</emphasis>), simply insert the first
-	  FreeBSD of the set into the drive and reboot your system.  You
-	  will be put into the install menu directly from the CD.</para>
+	  CD of the set into the drive and reboot your system.  You
+	  will be put into the installation menu directly from the CD.</para>
 
 	<para>If you are installing from an MS-DOS partition and have
 	  the proper drivers to access your CD, run the
@@ -184,7 +184,7 @@
 	  <para>Before invoking the installation, be sure that the CDROM
 	    is in the drive so that the install probe can find it.  This
 	    is also true if you wish the CDROM to be added to the default
-	    system configuration automatically during the install (whether
+	    system configuration automatically during the installation (whether
 	    or not you actually use it as the installation media).</para>
 	</note>
 
@@ -205,7 +205,7 @@
 
 	 <note><para>If you choose to enable anonymous FTP during the
 	 installation of your system, the installation program will do
-	 the above procedure for you.</para></note>
+	 the above for you.</para></note>
 
       </sect3>
 
@@ -215,7 +215,7 @@
 	<para>If you must install from floppy disk (which we suggest you
 	  do <emphasis>NOT</emphasis> do), either due to unsupported
 	  hardware or simply because you insist on doing things the hard
-	  way, you must first prepare some floppies for the install.</para>
+	  way, you must first prepare some floppies for the installation.</para>
 
 	<para>At a minimum, you will need as many 1.44MB or 1.2MB floppies
 	  as it takes to hold all the files in the
@@ -238,7 +238,7 @@
 	  <command>disklabel</command> and <command>newfs</command>
 	  commands to put a UFS filesystem on them instead, as the
 	  following sequence of commands (for a 3.5" 1.44MB floppy)
-	  illustrate:</para>
+	  illustrates:</para>
 
 	<screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>fdformat -f 1440 fd0.1440</userinput>
 &prompt.root; <userinput>disklabel -w -r fd0.1440 floppy3</userinput>
@@ -448,7 +448,7 @@
 
 	  <screen><userinput>ftp://209.55.82.20/pub/FreeBSD/&rel.current;-RELEASE</userinput></screen>
 
-	  <para>There are two FTP installation modes you can choose from,
+	  <para>There are two FTP installation modes you can choose from:
 	    active or passive FTP.</para>
 
 	  <variablelist>
@@ -524,8 +524,8 @@
       <para>Once you have completed the pre-installation step relevant to
         your situation, you are ready to install FreeBSD!</para>
 
-      <para>Although you should not experience any difficulties, there is
-        always the chance you might, no matter how slight it is.  If this
+      <para>Although you should not experience any difficulty, there is
+        always the chance that you may, no matter how slight it is.  If this
 	is the case in your situation, then you may wish to go back and
 	re-read the relevant preparation section or sections.  Perhaps you
 	will come across something you missed the first time.  If you are
@@ -805,7 +805,7 @@
 	</listitem>
       </itemizedlist>
 
-      <para>Unmaintained drivers, they might or might not work for your
+      <para>Unmaintained drivers, which might or might not work for your
         hardware:</para>
 
       <itemizedlist>

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hi,

On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 04:22:27PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote:

> >    cd /usr/www
> >    make links
> 
> I had to make empty directories for ja, ru, etc. and then ``make
> links'' worked.

Of course! If you're building all languages (w/o ENGLISH_ONLY) it will
try to build ja/, ru/, etc languages and if you did not checked out them
will fail.

> >    cd en
> >    make ENGLISH_ONLY=yes WEB_ONLY=YES -DNOPORTSCVS all
> 
> Ah, -DNOPORTSCVS! OK, it's built now but there seems to be a lot
> missing, but most of that appears to be stuff in the handbook and FAQ.
What about fdp-primer ?

> Should linkd to those not be created? I tried
> 
>        make ENGLISH_ONLY=yes WEB_ONLY=YES -DNOPORTSCVS install
> 
> Which installed it in /usr/usr/root/public_html/data/, is that
> correct?

It's correct. You need to specify (explicitly) DESTDIR to install
to other place. Take a look to web.mk for comments.

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On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 07:40:47PM +0300, Alexey Zelkin wrote:
> hi,
> 
> On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 04:22:27PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote:
> 
> > >    cd /usr/www
> > >    make links
> > 
> > I had to make empty directories for ja, ru, etc. and then ``make
> > links'' worked.
> 
> Of course! If you're building all languages (w/o ENGLISH_ONLY) it will
> try to build ja/, ru/, etc languages and if you did not checked out them
> will fail.
> 

Yes, but it failed with ENGLISH_ONLY=yes as well, until I made the
empty non-English directories.

> > >    cd en
> > >    make ENGLISH_ONLY=yes WEB_ONLY=YES -DNOPORTSCVS all
> > 
> > Ah, -DNOPORTSCVS! OK, it's built now but there seems to be a lot
> > missing, but most of that appears to be stuff in the handbook and FAQ.
> What about fdp-primer ?
> 

Yes, I had taken a (quick) look at that (section 7) but since it
appeared to be for building from the CVS tree (which I don't have,
from section 7.4 Environment Variables - "Location of the CVS tree.
Essential.") I ignored it.

> > Should linkd to those not be created? I tried
> > 
> >        make ENGLISH_ONLY=yes WEB_ONLY=YES -DNOPORTSCVS install
> > 
> > Which installed it in /usr/usr/root/public_html/data/, is that
> > correct?
> 
> It's correct. You need to specify (explicitly) DESTDIR to install
> to other place. Take a look to web.mk for comments.
> 

Right, now I know where to look I'll RTFM :)

Thanks for the pointers.

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On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 11:02:50PM -0400, Dave Germiquet wrote:
> Is it possible to use the Sound Blaster 128 on FreeBSD 
> using X Windows?
> if so how?

Probably, but I couldn't say for certain.  Questions like this are 
best directed to the questions@freebsd.org mailing list.

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On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 07:39:16PM -0700, papowell@astart.com wrote:
> OK,  how do you get the 'edition' information to come out in the
> HTML format?

"edition" information?

What sort of information?

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On Tue, Jun 13, 2000 at 01:56:48PM -0700, papowell@astart.com wrote:
> 1.  Deeper TOC Listings for HTML Output
> 
>     Right now the TOC only does two levels of listing.  I would
>     like to increase the depth.  How do I do this?
>     NOW                     WANT
> 
>     main                    main
>      main.1                  main.1
>       main.1.1                main.1.1
>        main.1.1.1              main.1.1.1
>        main.1.1.2              main.1.1.2
>      main.2                   main.2
>       main.2.1                 main.2.1                   
> 
>      ...

Dunno yet. . .

    % cd /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/html
    % grep toc * | more

Looks like dbautoc.dsl defines it.  Looking in there. . .

    ;; Returns the depth of auto TOC that should be made at the nd-level
    (define (toc-depth nd)
      (if (string=? (gi nd) (normalize "book"))
           3
           1))

Hmm.  Looks like instead of just defining a number, there's a function
that returns a variable depth, depending on whether this is a book or
not.

I suppose if you wanted everything to have a TOC depth of 4 you could
just do:

    (define (toc-depth nd)
      4)

in your .dsl file, otherwise you can be more creative as necessary.

> 2.  How Do I Produce an Index?  I would like to do this
>     for both HTML and PS output,  but I would be happy
>     with just PS output.
>     a) the markup notation in the body
>     b) the jade + tex + tools to use

See $PREFIX/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/doc/indexing.html (where
$PREFIX is normally /usr/local, but might be different if you've configured
things differently.

Actually, take a look at index.html in the same directory, and read through
what's there, as it'll probably help.

> 3.  How Do I Produce an Glossary?  I would like to do this
>     for both HTML and PS output,  but I would be happy
>     with just PS output.
>     a) the markup notation in the body
>     b) the jade + tex + tools to use

Isn't this covered in DocBook: The Definitive Guide?  It's in the online
version (see http://www.docbook.org/) in Section II: Reference (see the
Glossary, FirstTerm, and GlossTerm element descriptions, and examples).

> 4.  The current tex output numbers pages,  but does not do it
>     correctly.
>                              Now          Should Be
>     Title Page                                        (Correct - no number)
>     Dedication               2               i
>     Preface...               3-...           ii-...
> 
>     Part1                    n               1
> 
>     I KNOW just KNOW that there is a way to do this,  and I am going to
>     probably hit myself with a dope slap when somebody tells me.

Pass.  I think it's supposed to do this.  Asking on the DocBook-Apps mailing
list is probably best.

> 5.  I have tried to put images into the HTML and TeX / PS format.
>     Other people have done it.
>     a) What is the magic markup I need
>     b) How do I convince the tex stuff to FIND the file containing the
>        graphic?  I keep thinking that I did this a LOooonnng time ago,
>        with a graphic tool,  but this was using latex and some macros,
>        and it is long gone from my memory and archives.

Go to the web archives of the -doc list, and search for a message from
me with the subject

    Including images in the documentation

for how to do this.

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On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 03:17:33PM -0700, Jim Mock wrote:
> > there is a "FreeBSD handbook" at your FTP server in many formats
> > (html, pdf, ...). I miss this book on your "iso9660" CD image. There
> > is a version of handbook for FreeBSD 4.0 at your FTP server today. I
> > cannot find the handbook for older versions of FreeBSD. In the past I
> > downloaded version for FreeBSD 3.1, that is why I know that different
> > handbooks exist. I was looking for handbook for version 2.2.8 and
> > 3.4. Maybe I don't need old version of handbook as version 4.0 is
> > valid for older releases too.
> 
> There is no ``older version'' handbook.  The handbook is an
> ever-changing document -- 4.0 is the latest release, so we try to keep 
> it up-to-date with that.  It'll say 4.1 on it in July when 4.1 is
> released.  Some parts will probably be relevant for older versions..
> YMMV.

D'you think it's worth building a snapshot of what the Handbook looked
like at various release points, and making them available for FTP 
somewhere?

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HEADS UP to the -doc folks.

I know it's a little late in the day. . .

Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> We're a bit late with 3.5 so far but that's OK since people
> have been expecting only small, incremental changes for that
> release.  Nonetheless, I thought now would be a good time to
> set the date and, given my upcoming trip to Japan and Korea
> (June 6th through June 15th), we're probably looking at June
> 20th as a reasonable release date.  Committers have basically
> 15 days to tie up any loose ends in the RELENG_3 branch
> and do *reasonable* merge work from 4.x/5.x.  This should
> be done under the same guidelines we've always used:  Doc
> changes, obvious or critical bug fixes, security problems,
> all are fair candidates for merging.  Major new functionality
> or experimental/insufficiently tested bits are not good
> candidates for 3.5.  As always, if you have any question about
> the suitability of a change, please feel free to ask me.

We now have the docs sufficiently tied in to the release mechanism that
I need to lay down a CVS tag first.  Has anyone got anything specifically
urgent that they want committed?

I'll clear my schedule for the 19th, and apply any PRs that are no-brainers.
Then I'll lay down the tag for the release.  I'm spending most of the 20th
in the air, so won't get the chance to do anything then.

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On Tue, Jun 13, 2000 at 06:26:18PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> We're still figuring it out. :)  Details will provided when available.

Pointers to the discussion archives (or, for that matter, an invitation
to contribute) would be welcome.

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>Number:         19314
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       rc(8) manpage has out of date description of rc.local
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Thu Jun 15 15:50:01 PDT 2000
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Ben Smithurst
>Release:        FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386
>Organization:
>Environment:

>Description:

The rc(8) manual page states:

     Rc.local is executed after the scripts above, but before the rest of the
     rc file is completed.  Presently, all rc.local does is to put version in-
     formation in /etc/motd.

The second sentence is not true, rc.local does not even exist in a
default installation.  This needs fixing in RELENG_4 as well as HEAD.

>How-To-Repeat:

>Fix:

cvs diff: Diffing .
Index: rc.8
===================================================================
RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/share/man/man8/rc.8,v
retrieving revision 1.9
diff -u -r1.9 rc.8
--- rc.8	2000/03/03 14:05:02	1.9
+++ rc.8	2000/06/15 21:48:04
@@ -148,10 +148,10 @@
 is executed after the scripts above, but before the rest of the
 .Nm rc
 file is completed.
-Presently, all
+In a default installation
 .Nm rc.local
-does is to put version information in
-.Pa /etc/motd .
+does not exist, but its contents will be executed if the file is created
+by the administrator.
 .Pp
 Following tradition, the startup files reside in
 .Pa /etc .
cvs diff: Diffing man8.alpha
cvs diff: Diffing man8.i386

>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:


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Synopsis: Nits, handbook chapter 2

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State-Changed-Why: 
Committed, thanks!

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=19302


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On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 at 12:44:57 +0000, Nik Clayton wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 03:17:33PM -0700, Jim Mock wrote:
> > > there is a "FreeBSD handbook" at your FTP server in many formats
> > > (html, pdf, ...). I miss this book on your "iso9660" CD
> > > image. There is a version of handbook for FreeBSD 4.0 at your FTP
> > > server today. I cannot find the handbook for older versions of
> > > FreeBSD. In the past I downloaded version for FreeBSD 3.1, that is
> > > why I know that different handbooks exist. I was looking for
> > > handbook for version 2.2.8 and 3.4. Maybe I don't need old version
> > > of handbook as version 4.0 is valid for older releases too.
> > 
> > There is no ``older version'' handbook.  The handbook is an
> > ever-changing document -- 4.0 is the latest release, so we try to 
> > keep it up-to-date with that.  It'll say 4.1 on it in July when 4.1
> > is released.  Some parts will probably be relevant for older
> > versions.. YMMV.
> 
> D'you think it's worth building a snapshot of what the Handbook looked
> like at various release points, and making them available for FTP 
> somewhere?

I suppose it couldn't hurt really... I guess it would depend on the
demand for such an animal if it existed.

- jim

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Alexey,

On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 04:03:08PM +0300, Alexey Zelkin wrote:
> Just to let you know -- if you're translating handbook to russian.
> This work is alrady in progress and all base staff (like you sent
> in this mail) is already translated. And about 10 chapters already
> translated (or translating now). Feel free to write me directly
> and join us.

Do you want to commit this stuff now, so that people can see how far
you've got?

If it doesn't build then don't list it in doc/ru*/books/Makefile, so that
it doesn't break the build.

I'm strongly in favour of having the translations be committed even if 
they're incomplete -- it helps it look like things are happening, and it
might encourage others to join in.

N
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On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 04:27:13PM +0300, Alexey Zelkin wrote:
> > OK. And some questions:
> > Why that 10 chapters still not commit on tree?
> 
> Because since CVS server of the FreeBSD Russian Documentation Project is
> set up we moved all activities there. And we decided to do all translation 
> work on this CVS Repo, and just commit updates to the main CVS Repo. When 
> at least 50% of the handbook  will be translated I will import it to the 
> main source tree.

If you trust the people working on this sufficiently that they won't 
interfere with the rest of the docs, I'm happy to sponsor their commit bit
through -core -- they can be restricted to doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R informally, by
telling them, or we can enforce it if necessary through CVS.

That goes for the other translation projects as well.

N
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Synopsis: Change to Respect CLFAGS portion of Porters Handbook

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Committed, thanks!

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On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 at 17:04:59 -0700, jim@FreeBSD.ORG wrote:
> Synopsis: Change to Respect CLFAGS portion of Porters Handbook
> 
> State-Changed-From-To: open->closed
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> Committed, thanks!
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=19278

I forgot to mention -- please try to submit diffs to the .sgml file
instead of the HTML.  It makes it a lot easier on us when we grab it to
review/commit it :-)

- jim

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hi,

On Fri, Jun 16, 2000 at 12:15:16AM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote:
 
> Do you want to commit this stuff now, so that people can see how far
> you've got?

Not yet. We have some problems with DSL problems. As soon as I fix them
it's possible to speak about import

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> Pointers to the discussion archives (or, for that matter, an invitation
> to contribute) would be welcome.

All discussions so far have occurred in person. :)

Believe me, nobody is trying to keep anyone out of the conversation,
it's just not been held electronically yet.

- Jordan


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On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Eric Asa Buchanan wrote:

> Dear FreeBSD:
>=20
> I'm offering to help translate FreeBSD documentation, especially the
> installation instructions, into Spanish. I have really enjoyed using and
> learning FreeBSD, and have converted to using it 99%  of the time I am
> using a computer. My background is in Spanish translation, and normally
> I translate Spanish to English. I am a native English speaker, so it
> would be a good idea to ask a native Spanish speaker to proofread my
> work when I am done to make sure it sounds correct. I can also use a
> Spanish version of Solaris 8 to make sure that my work is using proper
> Spanish language computer related terminology.
>=20
> Two years ago this time I was barely able to use Windows 98. I had used
> Dos for about 10 years and read about 18 months ago that FreeBSD could
> be a challenge. I took the challenge and loved it as soon as I first
> used it.
>=20
> I want to be able to bring FreeBSD to the South America and the rest of
> the Spanish speaking world. Much of South America is currently in a very
> deep recession, and FreeBSD will be greatly useful to that part of the
> world because it can be had free and will make older / obsolete hardware
> useful again.

Please, subscribe join doc@es.freebsd.org.

Saludos
JesusR.

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 > I'm strongly in favour of having the translations be committed even if 
 > they're incomplete -- it helps it look like things are happening, and it
 > might encourage others to join in.

Hmm, do you mean this without exceptions?
I am working on a german translation of the FAQ and although quite a
lot of work is already done, I am not sure if it would be the best
idea to commit this.  What I am afraid of are Mails and PRs because of
a document that is still under construction...

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>Number:         19334
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Handbook reference to hard drive devices not updated to 4.0 names
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri Jun 16 10:30:01 PDT 2000
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Bob Johnson
>Release:        on-line handbook 16 June 00
>Organization:
>Environment:
n/a
>Description:
Found a reference to hard drive device names that hasn't 
been updated to 4.0 ATA device:

http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/disks-adding.html
Chapter 10, section 10.5, "Adding Disks" says
"Continuing with our example, the newly added drive will 
be da1 and we want to mount it on /1. (if you are adding 
an IDE drive substitute wd for da)".  It should mention 
that in 4.0 the device name for ATA drives will be 
'ad-', e.g. 'ad0'.

>How-To-Repeat:
Refer to web page at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/disk-adding.html
>Fix:
How about this wording:

"Continuing with our example, the newly added drive will be da1 
and we want to mount it on /1 (if you are adding an IDE drive 
it will be wd1 in pre-4.0 systems, or ad1 in most 4.x systems)."

Note I also moved the period to the end of the sentence.



>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:


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On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 papowell@astart.com wrote:

> I just converted a fairly large LinuxBook SGML document to
> DocBook,  using the Brute Force and Massive Ignorance approach.
> 
> Strangely enough, it went pretty smoothly.  However,
> I have run into a couple of problems,  that probably have
> answers,  but I have not been able to find them on this list.
> 
> I will summarize them,  and perhaps this might actually get put into
> the DocProj Primer (hint hint) someday.
> 
> 1.  Deeper TOC Listings for HTML Output
> 
>     Right now the TOC only does two levels of listing.  I would
>     like to increase the depth.  How do I do this?
>     NOW                     WANT
> 
>     main                    main
>      main.1                  main.1
>       main.1.1                main.1.1
>        main.1.1.1              main.1.1.1
>        main.1.1.2              main.1.1.2
>      main.2                   main.2
>       main.2.1                 main.2.1                   
> 
>      ...
> 
> 2.  How Do I Produce an Index?  I would like to do this
>     for both HTML and PS output,  but I would be happy
>     with just PS output.
>     a) the markup notation in the body
>     b) the jade + tex + tools to use
> 

FWIW:

I have produced all my indexes of DocBook documents using a program called
makeindex and a slightly hacked copy of sgmlfmt.

It's SGML -> troff -> PS

It should be possible to port the solution to the DSSSL stylesheets.

> 
> Patrick Powell                 Astart Technologies,
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Synopsis: Handbook reference to hard drive devices not updated to 4.0 names

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Committed, thanks!

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Wolfram removed the link not long after you submitted this, and I just
removed webchanges.sgml from the site build and sitemap, so this can now
be closed.

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This is already linked to from internal/ -- it's really meant for
committers, and linking to it from tutorials/ could be interpretted as a
guide to becoming a committer, not what to do when you are one.

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Committed with a minor change -- 3.4-RELEASE -> 4.0-RELEASE.  Thanks!

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On page:

http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/preface.html

...at:

"Q: Where can I get FreeBSD?"

...there appear to be two broken links:

"3.4-RELEASE":
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"4.0-RELEASE":
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