From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Oct 22 4:57:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtppop3pub.verizon.net (smtppop3pub.gte.net [206.46.170.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F16137B4C5 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 04:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n8v2m5 (iplsin33-239.dsl.gtei.net [4.3.33.239]) by smtppop3pub.verizon.net with SMTP for ; id GAA42958952 Sun, 22 Oct 2000 06:53:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000a01c03c1f$61e627a0$ef210304@dsl.vz.genuity.com> From: "j.osborne" To: Subject: ethernet set up Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 07:58:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C03BFD.D9F12C80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C03BFD.D9F12C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am new to FreeBSD and just recently installed it on my home computer. I am having trouble setting up the ethernet part. I have a 3com 3c764 = office connect NIC and need some help settilng it up. Where can I find = instruction or help on setting up this. I am on a DSL connection that = works fine in Win98.=20 Thanks=20 Tom Osborne ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C03BFD.D9F12C80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am new to FreeBSD and just recently = installed it=20 on my home computer.
I am having trouble setting up the = ethernet=20 part.  I have a 3com 3c764 office connect NIC and need some help = settilng=20 it up. Where can I find instruction or help on setting up this.  I = am on a=20 DSL connection that works fine in Win98.
 
Thanks
Tom Osborne
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C03BFD.D9F12C80-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Oct 22 17:29:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freightmedia.com (unknown [208.185.70.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E2B7337B479 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 17:29:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7578 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2000 15:01:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Win98NT) (@202.154.58.3) by tjatur.regex.com with SMTP; 18 Oct 2000 15:01:41 -0000 Message-ID: <001501c038cd$70c9d320$4201a8c0@Win98NT> From: "tjatur" To: Subject: Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 13:33:50 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C03908.0D27AF00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C03908.0D27AF00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I learning freebsd now, and I want to build network (intranet-internet) = in my office. Could you give me advice how can I get the completed documents of = freebsd. If I must to buy, how the price of the completed books and CDs for new = release freebsd ? thank's tjatur noegroho ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C03908.0D27AF00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I learning freebsd now, and I want to build network=20 (intranet-internet) in my office.
Could you give me advice how can I get the = completed=20 documents of freebsd.
If I must to buy, how the price of the=20 completed books and CDs for new release freebsd ?
 
thank's
tjatur noegroho
------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C03908.0D27AF00-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Oct 22 17:45:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ibooks.com (unknown [198.92.129.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784DB37B4C5 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 17:45:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SMTP (model1.ibooks.com [192.168.1.2]) by mail.ibooks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA28112 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:25:17 -0500 Received: from l04005 ([192.168.100.232]) by 192.168.1.2 (Norton AntiVirus for Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:12:28 0000 (GMT) Reply-To: From: "Ryan Gallagher" To: Subject: subscribe Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:26:35 -0500 Message-ID: <000701c03a1b$a466c360$e864a8c0@ibooks.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Oct 22 19: 8:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.arc.net.my (nagano.arc.net.my [203.115.225.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A696337B479 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:08:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roppongi ([203.115.225.83]) by mail.arc.net.my (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G2V1YE00.A9H for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:08:38 +0800 Message-ID: <005f01c03c96$285e3f00$53e173cb@arc.net.my> Reply-To: "nick" From: "nick" To: Subject: Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:08:34 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We are trying IPv6 tunneling through an IPv4 network on a FreeBSD box to Freenet6. We understand that IP Protocol 41 has to be enabled for the tunneling to work behind a firewall. Is this correct? Where do we get more information on IP Protocol 41? We are trying this tunneling through a IPv4 Checkpoint-1 firewall but are unsuccessful. Any ideas or hints? Thanks in advance and best regards, Nick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 23 6:47:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD4037B479 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 06:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9NDU7l01050; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:30:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:30:06 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Nick Rogness Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How To's Message-ID: <20001023143006.A1014@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20001018070232.C9427@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from nick@rapidnet.com on Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 02:25:07PM -0600 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ cc'd to -doc for the archives ] On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 02:25:07PM -0600, Nick Rogness wrote: > On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Nik Clayton wrote: > > I've posted the URLs to our meta documentation explaining how to write > > documentation elsewhere in this thread. Let me know if that's sufficient, > > and if there's anything else that you guys need to get started. > > I have a lot of documents that contain Images (Visio diagrams > converted to gif's). However, in the online Handbook I see no > nice diagrams that are (IMO) useful...with the exceptions of some > ASCII art. What's the policy on this...??? No pics or what? Image support in the documentation is something that I'm actively working on right now. Basically, use either EPS or PNG as the source format for your image (depending on whether it's line art or a bitmap), and let the Makefiles handle converting the images to other formats as necessary. There's currently no documentation for how you should include images in the documentation. That's because I'm still experimenting with the best way to do it. However, if you take a look at doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/vm-design/article.sgml you can see how I'm planning on doing it. There will probably only be small changes to that mechanism. The Makefile in that directory should work as well. The only caveat is that you need to install the ImageMagick port to conver the images to the correct format -- ImageMagick is a big port, but it makes writing the Makefiles easier. I plan on reducing the port requirements down to the bare minimum after I've finished this round of development. Hope that helps. Any questions, please ask on -doc, so that they (and the answers) go in to the archives. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 23 6:50:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8737437B479; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 06:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9NDYhh01058; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:34:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:34:43 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Steve Roome , doc@freebsd.org Cc: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: How To's Message-ID: <20001023143443.B1014@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <000801c03860$bc67a9a0$47010a0a@fire.sysadmininc.com> <20001018065730.A9427@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20001019131237.K25899@moose.bri.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001019131237.K25899@moose.bri.hp.com>; from steve@sse0691.bri.hp.com on Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 01:12:37PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 01:12:37PM +0100, Steve Roome wrote: > > Please, by all means submit; > > > > a) New articles, following the examples under doc/en*/articles/ > > What are your thoughts on articles which follow no format whatsoever ? These would be an article consisting of just one section. > > We like both kinds of changes. See http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ for > > details about submitting changes and additions using the PR system, which > > lets these things be tracked. > > It's a great system. But really, submissions@docs.freebsd.org in any > format would be IMHO a good idea, or something like that ? > > How about mailing them here ? That could work -- the problem is that it's very easy for them to be lost in to the archives, never to be seen again. If people send them as PRs then at least they sit somewhere publically visible, waiting for someone to pick up on them -- that someone doesn't necessarily need to be a committer; if I'm working through the PR database, a PR that has a couple of comments attached that say something like "This document is great, I followed it's instructions, and everything works" makes it much easier for me (or another committer) to make the decision to commit it, particularly when it documents something outside our sphere of expertise. How would people feel about having all doc PRs automatically sent to this list as well? That would help boost their visibility. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 23 10:50:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9F037B479; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:50:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cshumway@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9NHnl325709; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:49:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cshumway@osd.bsdi.com) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:49:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Shumway To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How To's In-Reply-To: <20001023143443.B1014@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Nik Clayton wrote: > How would people feel about having all doc PRs automatically sent to this > list as well? That would help boost their visibility. I wouldn't mind that. Where do doc pr's get put now? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 23 11: 0:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0161237B4CF for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA08502 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:00:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:00:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200010231800.LAA08502@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2000/07/23] docs/20117 doc *printf manpage doesn't document %n o [2000/09/25] docs/21550 doc Some documents on Softupdates are not yet o [2000/10/02] docs/21708 doc kqueue/kevent man pages isn't specific ab o [2000/10/14] docs/21990 doc exec(3) manpage vs source inconsistency 5 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/09/25] docs/13950 doc webpage idea o [1999/09/25] docs/13967 doc FreeBSD Related Publications in Korea o [1999/10/06] docs/14158 doc md5(1) manpage should not claim the md5 a o [1999/10/27] docs/14565 doc ioctl() codes for device type `fd' (flopp o [2000/02/20] docs/16843 doc Knob for release/Makefile to prevent dele o [2000/03/18] docs/17470 doc Missing man page: pthread_yield f [2000/03/20] docs/17521 doc Proposed FAQ on assembly programming o [2000/03/25] docs/17598 doc installworld over NFS documentation no lo o [2000/04/03] kern/17774 doc stray irq7 o [2000/05/03] docs/18379 doc Information on SSH hard to find in Handbo o [2000/05/19] docs/18674 doc ntptime.htm and ntptime.8 o [2000/06/05] docs/19010 doc Bad144 obsoletion by 4.0 is undocumented; o [2000/06/23] docs/19481 doc Serial Communications chapter in Handbook o [2000/07/10] docs/19818 doc /usr/share/man/man8/sysinstall.8 missing o [2000/07/17] docs/19981 doc Indonesian translations o [2000/07/17] docs/19995 doc keymap(5) missing from manual in 3.4-RELE o [2000/07/20] docs/20067 doc src/sbin/nologin/nologin.5 is bad place o [2000/07/30] docs/20298 doc man 5 keymap missing in 4.1 (Stable) o [2000/08/02] docs/20369 doc [patch] mountd.8 missing cross-references o [2000/08/04] docs/20400 doc Building a kernel with debugging info sec o [2000/08/06] docs/20447 doc forcing NFS exports to be updated o [2000/08/07] docs/20477 doc Document syslogd's special treatment of k o [2000/08/10] docs/20528 doc sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix. o [2000/08/20] docs/20738 doc correction and modification to clocks(7) o [2000/08/23] docs/20794 doc Request 2 good documents under people.fre o [2000/09/25] docs/21542 doc sigaction(2) man page is misleading o [2000/10/03] docs/21724 doc man page is wrong in src/share/man/man4/m o [2000/10/04] docs/21762 doc mailing list archiving or retrieval broke o [2000/10/05] docs/21767 doc sample sshd_config errors for kerberos o [2000/10/07] docs/21826 doc ARP proxy feature lacks documentation o [2000/10/10] docs/21896 doc Mini-HOWTO for stp driver o [2000/10/13] docs/21981 doc GENERIC needs improved comments for MII N o [2000/10/15] docs/21999 doc [PATCH] Ask for numeric-sorted nm(1) outp o [2000/10/17] docs/22042 doc spelling error o [2000/10/17] docs/22043 doc fstab cache annoyance o [2000/10/17] docs/22044 doc /stand/sysinstall annoyance o [2000/10/17] docs/22053 doc mbuf(9) man page suggested o [2000/10/17] docs/22060 doc bridge.4 needs updating o [2000/10/18] docs/22088 doc ppp filter documentation errors o [2000/10/19] docs/22140 doc share/doc/*/contents updated for html out o [2000/10/21] docs/22195 doc type in file 43 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 23 11:17:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tvmail.thirdvoice.com (tvmail.thirdvoice.com [216.200.5.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315A737B4C5 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:17:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by tvmail.thirdvoice.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:19:37 -0700 Message-ID: <7DB120CBCA2DD311A3F8005004A704B7D84ACE@tvmail.thirdvoice.com> From: sanjeev@thirdvoice.com To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Floppy install Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:19:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C03D1D.CD3BCF2E" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C03D1D.CD3BCF2E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" hi, For some reason, trying to do an FTP install crashes my 486 machine (which unfortunately, doesn't appear to allow the CDROM drive to work at the same time as my HD). So I'd like to try a floppy install. It says I should copy files from the "/bin" directory but I have no idea where the /bin directory on ftp.freebsd.org is. Hope you can help! thanks, - jeev ------_=_NextPart_001_01C03D1D.CD3BCF2E Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Floppy install

hi,

For some reason, trying to do an FTP = install crashes my 486 machine (which unfortunately, doesn't appear to = allow the CDROM drive to work at the same time as my HD).  So I'd = like to try a floppy install.  It says I should copy files from = the "/bin" directory but I have no idea where the /bin = directory on ftp.freebsd.org is.

Hope you can help!

thanks,
- jeev

------_=_NextPart_001_01C03D1D.CD3BCF2E-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 23 11:29:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from morag.kenderhome.com (morag.kenderhome.com [216.94.125.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85AD137B4C5; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (tass@localhost) by morag.kenderhome.com (8.10.2/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e9NIU3j30633; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:30:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:30:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Tass To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Greetings In-Reply-To: <20001023143443.B1014@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, after talking to Nik at BSDCon 2000, I (foolishly?) offered to help out. So, how may I do so? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 23 13:28:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CAF537B479; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 13:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id WAA22687; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 22:28:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id WAA01075; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 22:12:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 22:12:57 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSDApps.com [tebbens@yahoo.com: FreeBSD.org Link] Message-ID: <20001023221257.A1043@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> Reply-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Forwarded message from Matthew Tebbens ----- Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:36:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Tebbens Subject: FreeBSD.org Link To: wosch@FreeBSD.org Hi Wolfram ! I run a site called FreeBSDApps.com. Its a searchable index of FreeBSD Applications. Please consider linking the site on your front page. If so, I would add a button/link also. Best Regards, Matthew __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 23 14:38:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 718) id 6177E37B4CF; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:38:53 -0700 (PDT) To: jasone@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, jasone@FreeBSD.ORG From: jasone@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/17470 Message-Id: <20001023213853.6177E37B4CF@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Missing man page: pthread_yield Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->jasone Responsible-Changed-By: jasone Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Oct 23 14:38:35 PDT 2000 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to maintainer. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 23 14:55:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4D437B479; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:55:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9NLt1409848; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:55:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com) To: Tass Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Greetings In-Reply-To: Message from Tass of "Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:30:03 EDT." Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:55:01 -0700 Message-ID: <9844.972338101@winston.osd.bsdi.com> From: Jordan Hubbard Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Well, after talking to Nik at BSDCon 2000, I (foolishly?) offered to help > out. > > So, how may I do so? Lots of ways! You see all those sections marked with *'s in the handbook, for example? Those still need to be written. :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 23 23:20: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494FC37B4C5 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 23:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id XAA85999; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 23:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id CACF537B479; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 23:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20001024061703.CACF537B479@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 23:17:03 -0700 (PDT) From: koich@cac.co.jp To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/22267: Some mistakes and fixes in periodic.conf.5 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 22267 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Some mistakes and fixes in periodic.conf.5 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Oct 23 23:20:01 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: SUZUKI Koichi >Release: FreeBSD 4.1.1 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: I found some mistakes in periodic.conf.5 rev 1.8.2.5. 1. daily_status_uucp_enable has same discription of daily_uuclean_enable. This variable invokes uustat. 2. weekly_clean_kvmdb_verbose affects to 'weekly' output. and a trivial fix. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- periodic.conf.5.org Sat Sep 30 13:14:51 2000 +++ periodic.conf.5 Tue Oct 24 14:52:39 2000 @@ -297,7 +297,7 @@ .Ar daily_status_disks_df_flags .Pc and -.Ic dump W . +.Ic dump -W . .It Ar daily_status_disks_df_flags (str) Set to the arguments for the .Xr df 1 @@ -309,7 +309,7 @@ (bool) Set to .Dq YES if you want to run -.Pa /etc/uuclean.daily . +.Ic uustat -a . .It Ar daily_status_network_enable (bool) Set to .Dq YES @@ -406,7 +406,7 @@ .It Ar weekly_clean_kvmdb_verbose (bool) Set to .Dq YES -if you want the removed files to be reported in your daily output. +if you want the removed files to be reported in your weekly output. .It Ar weekly_uucp_enable (bool) Set to .Dq YES >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 23 23:40: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CC3A37B4C5 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 23:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id XAA92972; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 23:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id A5BEC37B479; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 23:36:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20001024063607.A5BEC37B479@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 23:36:07 -0700 (PDT) From: d-lewart@uiuc.edu To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/22268: Typos in inetd.c and inetd.h Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 22268 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Typos in inetd.c and inetd.h >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Oct 23 23:40:00 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Daniel S. Lewart >Release: 4.1-STABLE >Organization: University of Illinois >Environment: n/a >Description: In usr.sbin/inetd/inetd.c:68, "being" should be "begin" In usr.sbin/inetd/inetd.h:76, "poilcy" should be "policy" >How-To-Repeat: egrep -n 'being|poilcy' usr.sbin/inetd/inetd.? >Fix: $ diff inetd.c.orig inetd.c 68c68 < * order shown below. Continuation lines for an entry must being with --- > * order shown below. Continuation lines for an entry must begin with $ diff inetd.h.orig inetd.h 76c76 < char *se_policy; /* IPsec poilcy string */ --- > char *se_policy; /* IPsec policy string */ >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 24 0:20: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from server.flags2000.com.au (unknown [203.43.231.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 983EB37B479 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 00:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from it-russia.da.ru (onyx.mycgiserver.com [212.69.162.53]) by server.flags2000.com.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id VH5X0WLD; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 18:19:27 +1000 To: From: it_russia@mail.ru Subject: x-sender: it_russia@mail.ru x-mailer: CGI/Perl Cookbook Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="CGI_Perl_Cookbook_-972371597" Message-Id: <20001024072005.983EB37B479@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 00:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --CGI_Perl_Cookbook_-972371597 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Have the best eBusiness ideas, but lack resources? 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http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22267 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 24 6:57:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A40B37B479; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 06:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA03925; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 06:57:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 06:57:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200010241357.GAA03925@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mpp@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, dwmalone@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/22268: Typos in inetd.c and inetd.h Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Typos in inetd.c and inetd.h Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dwmalone Responsible-Changed-By: mpp Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Oct 24 06:57:13 PDT 2000 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to maintainer. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22268 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 24 7:50: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C944137B479 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA23743; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:50:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200010241450.HAA23743@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Frederik Meerwaldt Subject: Re: docs/21550: Some documents on Softupdates are not yet changed for 3.5.1-RELEASE Reply-To: Frederik Meerwaldt Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/21550; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Frederik Meerwaldt To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, masaki@jbm-net.or.jp Cc: Subject: Re: docs/21550: Some documents on Softupdates are not yet changed for 3.5.1-RELEASE Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:46:30 +0200 (CEST) Please change state to closed, as it has already been fixed in newer versions: [...] The files implementing soft updates now reside in the sys/ufs/ffs directory and are compiled into the generic kernel by default. [...] Thanks!!! -- Best Regards, Freddy Geek Code 3.1: GCS s+: a--- C+++ UBOU+++ P-- E--- W++ N w--- V++ PGP- t? 5? tv ===================================================================== Frederik Meerwaldt ICQ: 83045387 Homepage: http://www.freddym.org Bavaria/Germany OpenVMS and Unix Howtos and much more FREEBSD, NETBSD, OPENBSD, TRU64, OPENVMS, ULTRIX, BEOS, LINUX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 24 10:25:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from morag.kenderhome.com (morag.kenderhome.com [216.94.125.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A06037B4C5 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdewyen.kenderhome.com (cr272745-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.107.154]) by morag.kenderhome.com (8.10.2/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e9OHQq200862; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:26:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20001024132306.033ab910@mail.kenderhome.com> X-Sender: tass@mail.kenderhome.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:25:04 -0400 To: Jordan Hubbard From: Tass Chapman Subject: Re: Greetings Cc: doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9844.972338101@winston.osd.bsdi.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This could just be my brain-dead mind still trying to recover from BSDCon, but the only * I saw was for PCMCIA ... and I am doubtful that is all that is lacking... The digital gods saw this being spewed out by Jordan Hubbard: > > Well, after talking to Nik at BSDCon 2000, I (foolishly?) offered to help > > out. > > > > So, how may I do so? > >Lots of ways! You see all those sections marked with *'s in the handbook, >for example? Those still need to be written. :-) > >- Jordan -- |Tass Chapman| tass@kenderhome.com : PGP key @ pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371| | http://www.kenderhome.com : KEYID: 0x5BC152A1 | |ICQ UIN:394570 | -- "Whatever you fear, whatever you hide, Whatever you carry deep inside, there's something more than this; Whatever you love, whatever you give Whatever you think you need to live - there's something more than this." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 24 11:14:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (flutter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C6037B479 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:14:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9OIVpU21099 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 20:31:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Handbook idea... From: Poul-Henning Kamp Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 20:31:51 +0200 Message-ID: <21097.972412311@critter> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Would it make sense to have a section/appendix in the handbook which lists all FreeBSD related papers giving links (if possible) ? That would become a neat index for us and would highlight the academic trackrecord of FreeBSD. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 24 13: 8:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.eds.com (ns1.eds.com [192.85.154.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F243537B479 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ahmlir3.mail.eds.com (ahmlir3-2.mail.eds.com [192.85.154.27]) by ns1.eds.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9OK8Ni06410 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:08:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ahmlir3.mail.eds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ahmlir3.mail.eds.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9OK8I725987 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:08:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from usahm101.exch.eds.com (usahm101.exmi01.exch.eds.com [207.37.138.189]) by ahmlir3.mail.eds.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9OK8Ib25981 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:08:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by usahm101.exmi01.exch.eds.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:08:16 -0400 Message-ID: <8AA870658244D4119AF600508BDF0A362BEEFC@usahm014.exmi01.exch.eds.com> From: "Lockard, Donald F" To: "'freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: Free bsd Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:08:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes I am looking for the free bsd. Do I need to obtain a cd rom disk. Home e-mail address is dlockard@ameritech.net Thanks Don L. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 24 19: 3:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C77037B479; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 19:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jim@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA83478; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 19:03:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 19:03:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200010250203.TAA83478@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jim@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, jkh@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/22044: /stand/sysinstall annoyance Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: /stand/sysinstall annoyance Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->jkh Responsible-Changed-By: jim Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Oct 24 19:03:16 PDT 2000 Responsible-Changed-Why: Turn this over to the sysinstall grand poobah. This is not a documentation bug. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22044 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 24 19: 6:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE4037B479 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 19:06:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (murray@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9P25ln83978; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 19:05:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@osd.bsdi.com) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 19:05:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Murray Stokely To: Tass Chapman Cc: Jordan Hubbard , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Greetings In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20001024132306.033ab910@mail.kenderhome.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The number of sections that are marked as "to be written" has diminished in recent months but a lot of the information is still hopelessly out of date or poorly written. For example, here is a quote from the serial communication chapter "This document is written based on the author's experience with FreeBSD versions 1.0, 1.1, and 1.1.5.1". If you are having trouble finding a section to write for in the FreeBSD Handbook then there are many there are many other noble goals as well. If you check out the 'doc' module from CVS you will find beginning work on a Developers Handbook which is almost entirely unwritten. The chapters have been laid out but there are only a couple of paragraphs of content. You can also search through the PR database for update requests, write new tutorials, write new man pages, etc, etc.. Murray On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Tass Chapman wrote: % This could just be my brain-dead mind still trying to recover from BSDCon, % but the only * I saw was for PCMCIA ... and I am doubtful that is all that % is lacking... % % The digital gods saw this being spewed out by Jordan Hubbard: % > > Well, after talking to Nik at BSDCon 2000, I (foolishly?) offered to help % > > out. % > > % > > So, how may I do so? % > % >Lots of ways! You see all those sections marked with *'s in the handbook, % >for example? Those still need to be written. :-) % > % >- Jordan % % -- % |Tass Chapman| tass@kenderhome.com : PGP key @ pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371| % | http://www.kenderhome.com : KEYID: 0x5BC152A1 | % |ICQ UIN:394570 | % -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 24 19:12:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from envy.geekhouse.net (envy.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC8437B479 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 19:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jim@localhost) by envy.geekhouse.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id e9P2CUE20298; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 19:12:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 19:12:29 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: Murray Stokely Cc: Tass Chapman , Jordan Hubbard , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Greetings Message-ID: <20001024191228.A20180@envy.geekhouse.net> Reply-To: jim@osd.bsdi.com References: <5.0.0.25.2.20001024132306.033ab910@mail.kenderhome.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from murray@osd.bsdi.com on Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 07:05:47PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 at 19:05:47 -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > The number of sections that are marked as "to be written" has > diminished in recent months but a lot of the information is still > hopelessly out of date or poorly written. For example, here is a > quote from the serial communication chapter "This document is written > based on the author's experience with FreeBSD versions 1.0, 1.1, and > 1.1.5.1". Yes, this is definitely a major candidate for updating or nuking completely. I'm not sure enough people even use it to be worth updating. Besides, if it's updated, or nuked, I'll be able to close the PR that Murray opened a while ago pointing out how crufty it is :-) That said, how many of you would object to removing this section completely? We could always add it back later if someone updates it, I'm just starting to think that no info on it is better than 5+ year old info.. - jim -- jim mock work: jim@osd.bsdi.com | jim@FreeBSD.org http://soupnazi.org/ BSDi Open Source Div | http://bsdi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 24 20:17: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.familyradio.com (unknown [204.140.220.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBBF037B4C5 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 20:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DP_MIWO ([208.184.72.194]) by email.infodial.net (post.office MTA v1.9.3b ID# 0-11077) with ESMTP id AAA166 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 20:13:35 -0700 From: mwood@familyradio.com To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 20:14:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Internal Zip drive Message-ID: <39F5EDB0.19501.12FDABB@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I wouldn't imagine that I'm the first one to mention this, but in the course of trying to use an internal zip drive, I discovered that FreeBSD 4.1.1 "sees" the zip drive as afd0s4 (or at least afd0, the s4 of course referring to the fourth partition). I could not readily find in any documentation any reference to afd0. I may have missed something, and if so, I apologize. The way I discovered that FreeBSD "sees" the zip drive as afd0 was that I ran dmesg, and toward the end of the listing I saw where the zip drive was listed, and I looked to the left to see what designation it was given. Anyhow, I just wanted to ask that you please update your documentation as this took a couple of hours of searching, reading, trying this, that, and the other thing, and it was very frustrating. And, ultimately, I was able to figure it out, but a lot of people might not be as persistant as I was. I am trying to evaluate FreeBSD because a friend told me that memory management with FreeBSD is better than with Linux. So, I have not yet purchased a "full" copy; I only have the "install" CD. Maybe the documentation in the full version covers this - I don't know - but other people may not have the time to pursue a problem like this, and may "write-off" FreeBSD. F Y I . . . Michael Wood LAN Administrator Family Stations, Inc. Oakland, CA mwood@familyradio.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 25 1:17:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from morag.kenderhome.com (morag.kenderhome.com [216.94.125.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7DF37B4C5 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 01:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdewyen.kenderhome.com (cr272745-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.107.154]) by morag.kenderhome.com (8.10.2/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e9P8JR202952; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 04:19:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20001025041705.033659b0@mail.kenderhome.com> X-Sender: tass@mail.kenderhome.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 04:17:45 -0400 To: jim@osd.bsdi.com, Murray Stokely From: Tass Chapman Subject: Re: Greetings Cc: Jordan Hubbard , doc@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20001024191228.A20180@envy.geekhouse.net> References: <5.0.0.25.2.20001024132306.033ab910@mail.kenderhome.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The digital gods saw this being spewed out by Jim Mock: >On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 at 19:05:47 -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > > The number of sections that are marked as "to be written" has > > diminished in recent months but a lot of the information is still > > hopelessly out of date or poorly written. For example, here is a > > quote from the serial communication chapter "This document is written > > based on the author's experience with FreeBSD versions 1.0, 1.1, and > > 1.1.5.1". > >Yes, this is definitely a major candidate for updating or nuking >completely. I'm not sure enough people even use it to be worth >updating. Besides, if it's updated, or nuked, I'll be able to close the >PR that Murray opened a while ago pointing out how crufty it is :-) > >That said, how many of you would object to removing this section >completely? We could always add it back later if someone updates it, >I'm just starting to think that no info on it is better than 5+ year old >info.. > >- jim Based on how often I have used anything in that section .. go nuts. I would rather see no info, than no useful info. >-- >jim mock work: jim@osd.bsdi.com | jim@FreeBSD.org >http://soupnazi.org/ BSDi Open Source Div | http://bsdi.com -- |Tass Chapman| tass@kenderhome.com : PGP key @ pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371| | http://www.kenderhome.com : KEYID: 0x5BC152A1 | |ICQ UIN:394570 | -- Be careful of reading health books, you might die of a misprint. -- Mark Twain To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 25 4: 4:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from eur.nai.com (dns-153-121.dhcp.nai.com [161.69.153.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775F737B479 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 04:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by eur.nai.com; id TAA22977; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 19:04:15 GMT Received: from unknown(161.69.147.199) by amsfire3.eur.nai.com via smap (V5.5) id xma022971; Wed, 25 Oct 00 19:03:39 GMT Received: FROM ams-ex-bridge1.nai.com BY ams-webshield1.eur.nai.com ; Wed Oct 25 13:07:20 2000 +0200 Received: by ams-ex-bridge1.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 01:04:01 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Youngman, Neil" To: "'doc@freebsd.org'" Subject: FreeBSD FAQ - Incorrect answer Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 13:02:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The answer to the question "Q: How do I access the virtual consoles from X?" is incorrect, at least misleading, for FreeBSD 3.4 It says "you may use only the Alt- function key to switch to another virtual terminal or back to X Window. You do not need to also press the Ctrl key." I read that as meaning that to get back to an X session on virtual console 1 I just need to use Alt-F1. That does not work. Alt-F1 just gives me the underlying text console with messages from the X session. To get the X session itself back I have to use Ctrl-Alt-F9! Neil Youngman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 25 4:34:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C3137B479 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 04:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9PBYAY14971 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 20:34:10 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 20:34:10 +0900 Message-ID: <7m7l6x40jx.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: Doc Team Subject: Around web.mk things User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.1.1 (Purple Rain) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 12) (Channel Islands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Multipart_Wed_Oct_25_20:34:10_2000-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --Multipart_Wed_Oct_25_20:34:10_2000-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I checked www build procedure and want to remove symbolic links for web.mk. But I cannot make good solution. So I propose simple way to remove these symbolic links to add web.mk wrappers in each localized directory. Comments? -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project --Multipart_Wed_Oct_25_20:34:10_2000-1 Content-Type: text/plain; type=patch; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="www.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.14 diff -u -r1.14 Makefile --- Makefile 2000/09/30 00:21:38 1.14 +++ Makefile 2000/10/25 10:52:22 @@ -1,8 +1,6 @@ # $FreeBSD: www/Makefile,v 1.14 2000/09/30 00:21:38 nbm Exp $ LINKS= en/ja en/es en/ru en/zh -LINKS+= ja/web.mk es/web.mk ru/web.mk -LINKS+= web.mk .if !defined(WEB_ONLY) || empty(WEB_ONLY) LINKS+= ../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/web.mk @@ -35,18 +33,6 @@ en/zh: cd en; ln -sf ${.CURDIR}/zh - -ja/web.mk: - cd ja; ln -sf ${.CURDIR}/en/web.mk - -es/web.mk: - cd es; ln -sf ${.CURDIR}/en/web.mk - -ru/web.mk: - cd ru; ln -sf ${.CURDIR}/en/web.mk - -web.mk: - cd .; ln -sf ${.CURDIR}/en/web.mk .if !defined(WEB_ONLY) || empty(WEB_ONLY) ../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/web.mk: Index: es/web.mk =================================================================== RCS file: web.mk diff -N web.mk --- /dev/null Wed Oct 25 20:19:13 2000 +++ web.mk Wed Oct 25 19:38:58 2000 @@ -0,0 +1,3 @@ +# $FreeBSD$ + +.include "../en/web.mk" Index: ja/web.mk =================================================================== RCS file: web.mk diff -N web.mk --- /dev/null Wed Oct 25 20:19:13 2000 +++ web.mk Wed Oct 25 19:38:45 2000 @@ -0,0 +1,3 @@ +# $FreeBSD$ + +.include "../en/web.mk" Index: ja/ports/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/ja/ports/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.19 diff -u -r1.19 Makefile --- ja/ports/Makefile 2000/10/02 07:54:40 1.19 +++ ja/ports/Makefile 2000/10/25 11:02:17 @@ -68,4 +68,4 @@ (cd ${.CURDIR} && ${MAKE} ${MAKEFLAGS} -f Makefile.inc0 ${.TARGET}) -.include "../../web.mk" +.include "../web.mk" Index: ru/web.mk =================================================================== RCS file: web.mk diff -N web.mk --- /dev/null Wed Oct 25 20:19:13 2000 +++ web.mk Wed Oct 25 19:50:20 2000 @@ -0,0 +1,3 @@ +# $FreeBSD$ + +.include "../en/web.mk" Index: zh/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/zh/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.4 diff -u -r1.4 Makefile --- zh/Makefile 2000/02/28 12:51:21 1.4 +++ zh/Makefile 2000/10/25 10:54:52 @@ -10,5 +10,5 @@ WEBBASE= /data/zh -.include "../web.mk" +.include "web.mk" Index: zh/web.mk =================================================================== RCS file: web.mk diff -N web.mk --- /dev/null Wed Oct 25 20:19:13 2000 +++ web.mk Wed Oct 25 19:54:46 2000 @@ -0,0 +1,3 @@ +# $FreeBSD$ + +.include "../en/web.mk" --Multipart_Wed_Oct_25_20:34:10_2000-1-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 25 4:41:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AFAE37B4D7; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 04:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9PBfbY15101; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 20:41:37 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 20:41:37 +0900 Message-ID: <7mu2a1jgge.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: phk@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook idea... In-Reply-To: In your message of "24 Oct 2000 18:14:45 GMT" <21097.972412311@critter> References: <21097.972412311@critter> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.1.1 (Purple Rain) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 12) (Channel Islands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 24 Oct 2000 18:14:45 GMT, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > Would it make sense to have a section/appendix in the handbook > which lists all FreeBSD related papers giving links (if possible) ? > > That would become a neat index for us and would highlight the > academic trackrecord of FreeBSD. I think this is good idea. If appropriate list is given, someone in -doc list will convert it to SGML. -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 25 5:39:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ark.cris.net (ark.cris.net [212.110.128.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8F237B479 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 05:39:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by ark.cris.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id e9PCcpK34962; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 15:38:51 +0300 (EEST) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 15:38:51 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: Doc Team Subject: Re: Around web.mk things Message-ID: <20001025153851.A34058@ark.cris.net> References: <7m7l6x40jx.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <7m7l6x40jx.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp>; from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp on Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 08:34:10PM +0900 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 08:34:10PM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > > I checked www build procedure and want to remove symbolic links for > web.mk. But I cannot make good solution. > > So I propose simple way to remove these symbolic links to add web.mk > wrappers in each localized directory. > > Comments? I prefer way of creation www/share directory which should contain all shared stuff (like web.mk) and all Makefiles can refer it in same way. -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ /* Sysadmin/Developer && phantom@sms.umc.com.ua */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 25 6:58:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9240E37B4CF for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 06:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9PDwOY16233 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 22:58:25 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 22:58:24 +0900 Message-ID: <7mr955ja4f.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Around web.mk things In-Reply-To: In your message of "Wed, 25 Oct 2000 15:38:51 +0300" <20001025153851.A34058@ark.cris.net> References: <7m7l6x40jx.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20001025153851.A34058@ark.cris.net> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.1.1 (Purple Rain) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 12) (Channel Islands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 25 Oct 2000 12:39:39 GMT, Alexey Zelkin wrote: > I prefer way of creation www/share directory which should contain all > shared stuff (like web.mk) and all Makefiles can refer it in same way. I like that idea, too. A reason I proposed previous patch is not to make large modification at one time. I'd like to hear more comments about this. If we move to such structure, do we need web.mk wrapper in localized directory? If we need, last line of each Makefile is: .include "web.mk" but if don't need: .include "${.CURDIR}/../share/mk/web.mk" -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 25 8: 0:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C306337B479 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9PF0EY16591 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:00:15 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:00:14 +0900 Message-ID: <7mpukpj79d.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Around web.mk things In-Reply-To: In your message of "25 Oct 2000 13:58:37 GMT" <7mr955ja4f.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> References: <7m7l6x40jx.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20001025153851.A34058@ark.cris.net> <7mr955ja4f.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.1.1 (Purple Rain) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 12) (Channel Islands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > If we move to such structure, do we need web.mk wrapper in localized > directory? If we need, last line of each Makefile is: > > .include "web.mk" > > but if don't need: > > .include "${.CURDIR}/../share/mk/web.mk" Please forget this sentence. If we have share/mk directory, it may contain some makefiles, not one. Treating web.mk specially is bad thing. -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 25 8:28:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from astart2.astart.com (astart2.astart.com [64.63.58.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB2737B4CF for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from astart.com (papowell@h4.private [10.0.0.4]) by astart2.astart.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA89126 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:28:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from papowell@astart.com) Message-ID: <39F6FC26.4A2FDBD8@astart.com> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:28:38 -0700 From: Patrick Powell Organization: Astart Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; BSD/OS 4.1 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: missing link: handbook Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------EE312961C89BBAF9B6A287A3" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------EE312961C89BBAF9B6A287A3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Handbook: Appendix A.1. - CD-ROM Publishers Walnut Creek CD-ROM The WWW is not a link - the email is. -- Patrick Powell Astart Technologies, papowell@astart.com 9475 Chesapeake Drive, Suite D, Network and System San Diego, CA 92123 Consulting 858-874-6543 FAX 858-279-8424 LPRng - Print Spooler (http://www.astart.com) --------------EE312961C89BBAF9B6A287A3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Handbook:
Appendix A.1. - CD-ROM Publishers
Walnut Creek CD-ROM

The WWW is not a link - the email is. 

-- 
Patrick Powell                 Astart Technologies,
papowell@astart.com            9475 Chesapeake Drive, Suite D,
Network and System             San Diego, CA 92123
  Consulting                   858-874-6543 FAX 858-279-8424 
LPRng - Print Spooler (http://www.astart.com)
  --------------EE312961C89BBAF9B6A287A3-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 25 8:33:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from v-dmnc.net (sv.v-dmnc.net [210.155.123.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0128137B4CF for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:33:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6547 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2000 00:39:51 +0900 Received: from p0444-ip01osakakita.osaka.ocn.ne.jp (HELO www.v-dmnc.net) (211.0.253.190) by sv.v-dmnc.net with SMTP; 26 Oct 2000 00:39:51 +0900 From: =?iso-2022-jp?B?RE5UGyRCNElNfTxUGyhC?= To: =?iso-2022-jp?B?ZnJlZWJzZC1kb2NARnJlZUJTRC5PUkc=?= Subject: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCI0QlXiUsOVhGSSROJCo0aiQkISobKEI=?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset= "ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20001025153315.0128137B4CF@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:33:15 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org $B$I$&$+$46(NO$r4j$$$7$^$9!#(B $BEvJ}$O@lLg#D%^%,%8%s$rH/9T$7$F$$$k$NL5$$J}$O:#8e0l@Z$NG[?.5Z$S%"%I%l%9$N1J5W:o(B $B=|(B $B:n6H$rI,$:CW$7$^$9!#$I$&$+$4N;>54j$$$^$9$3$H$r$*4j$$CW$7$^$9!#(B $B@?$K>!?'!9!d(B $B$H$J$j$^$9!#(B $B$^$?!"7n$K0lEY$4EPO?$5$l$J$$J}$O0J8eG[?.$r$7$J$$$h$&1J5W:o=|$r$$$?$7$^$9$N$G!"$*(B $BA0$G$9!":#$,%A%c%s%9(B $B$G$9!*(B $B%S%8%M%9$r$d$C$F$$$k0J>eBeM}E9$K$J$i$J$/$F$O$^$:!"<}F~$O(B $B%7%e%_%l!<%7%g%sDL$j$K$O$J$j$^$;$s!#(B $B;d$?$A$N%0%k!<%W$G$O!"$I$3$h$j$bAa$/BeM}E9$K$J$l$k%N%&%O%&$r(B $B;}$C$F$$$^$9!#(B $B%0%k!<%W$N%5%]!<%HBN@)$,<+K}$G$9!*(B http://www.jin.ne.jp/joyful21/bp/bp065.htm $BC4Ev!!!!;3ED$7$E$+(B $B%a!<%k!!(Bteddy-2@viola.ocn.ne.jp ===================================================================== === <$B%a!<%k$G9-9p$r $BEPO?@bL@$O!!(Bhttp://www.e-lent.com/~fuu/oll_1.htm$B!!(B $B!a!a!a!a!a!a!a!a!a!a!a!a!a!a!a!a!a!a!a!a!a!a!a!a!a!a!a!a!a!a!a!a!a!a(B $B!a!a(B $B:G8eKx$*FI$_$$$?$@$-@?$KM-Fq$&$4$6$$$^$7$?!#(B ( $B4IM}; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jim@localhost) by envy.geekhouse.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id e9PGWGu24604; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:32:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:32:14 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: Patrick Powell Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: missing link: handbook Message-ID: <20001025093213.A24547@envy.geekhouse.net> Reply-To: jim@lust.geekhouse.net References: <39F6FC26.4A2FDBD8@astart.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <39F6FC26.4A2FDBD8@astart.com>; from papowell@astart.com on Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 08:28:38AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 at 08:28:38 -0700, Patrick Powell wrote: > Handbook: > Appendix A.1. - CD-ROM Publishers > Walnut Creek CD-ROM > > The WWW is not a link - the email is. Thanks. I'll fix this now. It needs to be updated to reflect BSDi instead of Walnut Creek CDROM anyway. - jim -- jim mock work: jim@osd.bsdi.com | jim@FreeBSD.org http://soupnazi.org/ BSDi Open Source Div | http://bsdi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 25 15:55:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rucus.ru.ac.za (rucus.ru.ac.za [146.231.29.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 34EDC37B4C5 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 15:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 62009 invoked by uid 1003); 25 Oct 2000 22:55:34 -0000 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:55:34 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Around web.mk things Message-ID: <20001026005534.A60399@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <7m7l6x40jx.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20001025153851.A34058@ark.cris.net> <7mr955ja4f.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <7mr955ja4f.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp>; from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp on Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 10:58:24PM +0900 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386 X-URL: http://mithrandr.moria.org/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed 2000-10-25 (22:58), Jun Kuriyama wrote: > At 25 Oct 2000 12:39:39 GMT, > Alexey Zelkin wrote: > > I prefer way of creation www/share directory which should contain all > > shared stuff (like web.mk) and all Makefiles can refer it in same way. > > I like that idea, too. A reason I proposed previous patch is not to > make large modification at one time. I'd like to hear more comments > about this. > > If we move to such structure, do we need web.mk wrapper in localized > directory? If we need, last line of each Makefile is: > > .include "web.mk" > > but if don't need: > > .include "${.CURDIR}/../share/mk/web.mk" I suggest we just imitate the doc build totally, if possible. If we can agree somewhat on that, I can probably whip up the patchset in a short time. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 25 16:26: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B3537B4CF for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 16:26:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9PNPwY16520 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 08:25:59 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 08:25:58 +0900 Message-ID: <7mog08jyex.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Around web.mk things In-Reply-To: In your message of "25 Oct 2000 22:56:01 GMT" <20001026005534.A60399@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <7m7l6x40jx.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20001025153851.A34058@ark.cris.net> <7mr955ja4f.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20001026005534.A60399@mithrandr.moria.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.1.1 (Purple Rain) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 12) (Channel Islands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 25 Oct 2000 22:56:01 GMT, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > I suggest we just imitate the doc build totally, if possible. If we can > agree somewhat on that, I can probably whip up the patchset in a short > time. I think current doc makefile set is little complex for web purpose. If you can show a brief description about this, we can easily agree with that... -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 25 17:37:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from os2.ami.com.au (os2.ami.com.au [203.55.31.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21B737B479 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 17:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.os2.ami.com.au (IDENT:root@c0s26.ami.com.au [203.55.31.91]) by os2.ami.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id IAA21904 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 08:36:44 +0800 Received: from os2.ami.com.au (IDENT:summer@possum.os2.ami.com.au [192.168.1.6]) by emu.os2.ami.com.au (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e9Q0aUW16030; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 08:36:32 +0800 Message-ID: <39F77D23.E2353EE9@os2.ami.com.au> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 08:38:59 +0800 From: John Summerfield X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.0-test9 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Handbooks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dispite ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/README, I could find no html versions. The postscript files are astonishingly small - 10k. I downloaded one; it has four pages, the last is blank. I really wanted it in html. -- Cheers John Summerfield http://www2.ami.com.au/ for OS/2 & linux information. Configuration, networking, combined IBM ftpsites index. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 25 18:17: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from heorot.1nova.com (sub24-23.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.24.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4987737B479 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9CDF93295; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 17:40:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8476F3293; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 17:40:54 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 17:40:54 +0000 (GMT) From: Rick Hamell To: John Summerfield Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Handbooks In-Reply-To: <39F77D23.E2353EE9@os2.ami.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://www.freebsd.org/html dosen't work? Rick ******************************************************************* Rick's FreeBSD Web page http://heorot.1nova.com/freebsd Ace Logan's Hardware Guide http://www.shatteredcrystal.net/hardware ***FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! http://www.freebsd.org On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, John Summerfield wrote: > Dispite ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/README, I could find no > html versions. > > The postscript files are astonishingly small - 10k. I downloaded one; it > has four pages, the last is blank. > > I really wanted it in html. > > > > -- > Cheers > John Summerfield > http://www2.ami.com.au/ for OS/2 & linux information. > Configuration, networking, combined IBM ftpsites index. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 25 18:20:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC7FB37B4D7 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA96413; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-149-77.mmcable.com [24.27.149.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 774E737B479 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:15:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2716 invoked by uid 100); 26 Oct 2000 01:15:10 -0000 Message-Id: <20001026011510.2715.qmail@guru.mired.org> Date: 26 Oct 2000 01:15:10 -0000 From: mwm@mired.org Reply-To: mwm@mired.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/22297: The FAQ entry for users mounting removable media needs updating Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 22297 >Category: docs >Synopsis: The FAQ entry for users mounting removable media needs updating >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Oct 25 18:20:02 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mike Meyer >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: Meyer Consulting >Environment: People aren't often asking "how do I let users mount a floppy"; rather they are asking "how do I let users mount a cdrom". >Description: I think the emphasis on floppies in the FAQ entry is making them miss it. The FAQ entry is also missing a step (adding an entry to /etc/sysctl.conf) and is overpermissive in setting device permissions. >How-To-Repeat: Read -questions for a while, and watch. >Fix: The attached patch to the FAQ file adds CDROMs to the title and procedure, lowers the device permissions a bit, including an example on how to restrict the ability to a group, and adds the sysctl.conf step. I reorganized the text a bit to work better with the new information. --- book.sgml Tue Oct 17 18:17:14 2000 +++ /tmp/book.sgml Wed Oct 25 20:14:12 2000 @@ -6343,7 +6343,7 @@ - How do I let ordinary users mount floppies and other removable + How do I let ordinary users mount floppies, CDROMs and other removable media? @@ -6353,6 +6353,14 @@ + As root set the sysctl variable + vfs.usermount to + 1. + + &prompt.root; sysctl -w vfs.usermount=1 + + + As root assign the appropriate permissions to the block device associated with the removable media. @@ -6360,33 +6368,47 @@ For example, to allow users to mount the first floppy drive, use: - &prompt.root; chmod 777 /dev/fd0 - + &prompt.root; chmod 666 /dev/fd0 - - As root set the sysctl variable - vfs.usermount to - 1. + To allow users in the group + operator to mount the cdrom drive, + use: - &prompt.root; sysctl -w vfs.usermount=1 + &prompt.root; chgrp operator /dev/cd0c +&prompt.root; chmod 640 /dev/cd0c + + + Finally, add the line + vfs.usermount=1 to the file + /etc/sysctl.conf so that it is reset + at system boot time. + - Users can now mount /dev/fd0 onto a - directory that they own: + All users can now mount the floppy + /dev/fd0 onto a directory that they + own: &prompt.user; mkdir ~/my-mount-point &prompt.user; mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 ~/my-mount-point + Users in group operator can now + mount the cdrom /dev/cd0c onto a + directory that they own: + + &prompt.user; mkdir ~/my-mount-point +&prompt.user; mount -t msdos /dev/cd0c ~/my-mount-point + Unmounting the device is simple: &prompt.user; umount ~/my-mount-point Enabling vfs.usermount, however, has negative security implications. A better way to access MSDOS - formatted media is to use the mtools - package in the ports collection. + formatted media (not CDROMs) is to + use the mtools package in the ports collection. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 25 20: 3:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F357A37B479 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 20:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA01629; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 20:03:16 -0700 Message-ID: <39F79EF4.F6890683@urx.com> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 20:03:16 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rick Hamell Cc: John Summerfield , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbooks References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rick Hamell wrote: > > http://www.freebsd.org/html dosen't work? That doesn't appear to be a valid directory. I looked around and the only place I could find doc's in html or html-splits was at ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/packages/. I didn't bother to try downloading them because I build my own copy on my pc using doc-proj. Kent > > Rick > > ******************************************************************* > Rick's FreeBSD Web page http://heorot.1nova.com/freebsd > Ace Logan's Hardware Guide http://www.shatteredcrystal.net/hardware > ***FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! http://www.freebsd.org > > On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, John Summerfield wrote: > > > Dispite ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/README, I could find no > > html versions. > > > > The postscript files are astonishingly small - 10k. I downloaded one; it > > has four pages, the last is blank. > > > > I really wanted it in html. > > > > > > > > -- > > Cheers > > John Summerfield > > http://www2.ami.com.au/ for OS/2 & linux information. > > Configuration, networking, combined IBM ftpsites index. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 25 20:18:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from heorot.1nova.com (sub24-23.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.24.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4F637B4CF for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 20:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BBACA3294; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 19:42:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B6B3293; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 19:42:42 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 19:42:42 +0000 (GMT) From: Rick Hamell To: Kent Stewart Cc: John Summerfield , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbooks In-Reply-To: <39F79EF4.F6890683@urx.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Rick Hamell wrote: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/html dosen't work? > > That doesn't appear to be a valid directory. I looked around and the > only place I could find doc's in html or html-splits was at > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/packages/. I didn't bother to > try downloading them because I build my own copy on my pc using > doc-proj. My mistake... I meant www.freebsd.org/handbook.html Rick ******************************************************************* Rick's FreeBSD Web page http://heorot.1nova.com/freebsd Ace Logan's Hardware Guide http://www.shatteredcrystal.net/hardware ***FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 25 20:54:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from os2.ami.com.au (os2.ami.com.au [203.55.31.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3711237B479 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 20:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.os2.ami.com.au (IDENT:root@c0s26.ami.com.au [203.55.31.91]) by os2.ami.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA22576; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:53:45 +0800 Received: from possum.os2.ami.com.au (IDENT:summer@possum.os2.ami.com.au [192.168.1.6]) by emu.os2.ami.com.au (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e9Q3rNW18865; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:53:23 +0800 Message-Id: <200010260353.e9Q3rNW18865@emu.os2.ami.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Rick Hamell Cc: Kent Stewart , John Summerfield , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, summer@emu.os2.ami.com.au Subject: Re: Handbooks In-Reply-To: Message from Rick Hamell of "Tue, 24 Oct 2000 19:42:42 GMT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:55:53 +0800 From: John Summerfield Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hamellr@heorot.1nova.com said: > Rick Hamell wrote: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/html dosen't work? > > That doesn't appear to be a valid directory. I looked around and the > only place I could find doc's in html or html-splits was at > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/packages/. I didn't bother to > try downloading them because I build my own copy on my pc using > doc-proj. > My mistake... I meant www.freebsd.org/handbook.html > Rick I reported it in the hope someone would fix it; in the meantime I pointed wget at the handbook. I have to say, it caches well (in squid)! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 25 21:30: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ACC337B4C5 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 21:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA63137; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 21:30:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from eddings.acpub.duke.edu (eddings.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D4B37B479 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 21:22:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bobzilla.adsl.duke.edu (bobzilla.adsl.duke.edu [152.16.67.15]) by eddings.acpub.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Duke-5.0.0) with ESMTP id AAA02026; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:22:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from sto@localhost) by bobzilla.adsl.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0) id e9Q4MjK08116; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:22:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sto) Message-Id: <200010260422.e9Q4MjK08116@bobzilla.adsl.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:22:45 -0400 (EDT) From: sean@stat.Duke.EDU Reply-To: sean@stat.Duke.EDU To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/22300: add in Mike Smith's RAID docos to project page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 22300 >Category: docs >Synopsis: add in Mike Smith's RAID docos to project page >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Oct 25 21:30:00 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Sean O'Connell >Release: FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386 >Organization: ISDS >Environment: FreeBSD homepage >Description: It might be nice to have the information available on http://people.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID more widely available .. as it is useful for spec'ing out hardware. >How-To-Repeat: It's just not there :) >Fix: I was thinking a link to http://people.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID/ from http://www.freebsd.org/projects/projects.html#devicedrivers might prove useful for folks setting up FreeBSD servers. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 25 21:34:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD2237B479; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 21:34:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jim@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA64501; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 21:34:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 21:34:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200010260434.VAA64501@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jim@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, jim@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/22300: add in Mike Smith's RAID docos to project page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: add in Mike Smith's RAID docos to project page Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->jim Responsible-Changed-By: jim Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Oct 25 21:33:56 PDT 2000 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22300 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 25 22: 2:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E7637B479; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 22:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jim@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA73556; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 22:02:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 22:02:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200010260502.WAA73556@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sean@stat.Duke.EDU, jim@FreeBSD.org, jim@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22300: add in Mike Smith's RAID docos to project page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: add in Mike Smith's RAID docos to project page State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jim State-Changed-When: Wed Oct 25 22:01:42 PDT 2000 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! 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Thank you. ************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 26 6:19:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from morag.kenderhome.com (morag.kenderhome.com [216.94.125.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B163737B6AC for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 06:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (tass@localhost) by morag.kenderhome.com (8.10.2/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e9QDKpC28980 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:20:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:14:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Tass To: docs@freebsd.org Subject: makeworld handbook section Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I could be really wrong here , but for a while now I have been using "make -j4 ######" in the -STABLE tree (since 3.3 actually) and have not had any problems. Yet the handbook states that this is something for the -CURRENT tree. Is this still so? If not I will happily edit the section and make the changes. Tass - The Canuck eh? (: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 26 9: 9:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from os2.ami.com.au (os2.ami.com.au [203.55.31.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2D437B4C5 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:09:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.os2.ami.com.au (IDENT:root@c0s22.ami.com.au [203.55.31.87]) by os2.ami.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id AAA23776 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 00:09:03 +0800 Received: from os2.ami.com.au (IDENT:summer@possum.os2.ami.com.au [192.168.1.6]) by emu.os2.ami.com.au (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e9Q9MYW23313; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:23:28 +0800 Message-ID: <39F7F870.ED007186@os2.ami.com.au> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:25:04 +0800 From: John Summerfield X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.0-test9 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: http://www.au.FreeBSD.org/handbook/install-guide.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm staring at the screen with the FreeBSD install menu on it. I'm worried; "Will any of these go straight to my first drive and clobber Linux?" My second drive is an IBM 20 Gbyte drive. Nothing I can see tells me. Guess there's one way to find out..." Oh; NAVIGATING the installer is no problem. Making intelligent choices is not so easy. XX (<<--- crossed fingers) -- Cheers John Summerfield http://www2.ami.com.au/ for OS/2 & linux information. Configuration, networking, combined IBM ftpsites index. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 26 11:37:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6FF37B4C5; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:37:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9QICM114462; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 19:12:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 19:12:22 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Christopher Shumway Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How To's Message-ID: <20001026191222.A2688@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20001023143443.B1014@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from cshumway@osd.bsdi.com on Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 10:49:47AM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 10:49:47AM -0700, Christopher Shumway wrote: > On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Nik Clayton wrote: > > How would people feel about having all doc PRs automatically sent to this > > list as well? That would help boost their visibility. > > I wouldn't mind that. Where do doc pr's get put now? D'oh, I'll wake up in a minute. -doc PRs already go to the doc list. Blame it on the jet lag, or something. . . N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 26 12:15:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E613237B4CF; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9QJFep73565; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:15:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200010261915.e9QJFep73565@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: bmah@freebsd.org Subject: HARDWARE.TXT and RELNOTES.TXT From: bmah@freebsd.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1609580408P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:15:40 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_1609580408P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi folks-- Here's some problems I've been having trying to maintain the RELNOTES.TXT and HARDWARE.TXT files, and a couple of random ideas about how to solve them. In case you aren't familiar with them, they are ASCII text files (in src/release/texts) that change fairly rapidly as new features and bugfixes are applied to FreeBSD. I've been committing most of the changes to them as of late, although I encourage developers to write their own release notes for their features and commit them themselves. For reasons that elude me, we have two different RELNOTES.TXT files per release (one for the i386 and one for the alpha, which contain similar, but slightly different contents). Frequently, I have four different emacs windows open to commit changes to the i386 and alpha files for both 5-CURRENT and 4-STABLE. We're on our way to having ia64 support in the not-too-distant future, and I keep hearing rumbles about ppc and sparc support as well. Clearly the current release notes aren't going to scale well. We also have problems keeping the RELNOTES.TXT files in sync with HARDWARE.TXT, which I just-rediscovered after adding some data for uscanner(4). (The RELNOTES.TXT files each have what-should-be-a-copy of some sections of HARDWARE.TXT included within them.) I'd really like to have one set of release notes and one list of supported hardware per release. To generate the architecture-specific release notes, there would have to be some conditionals in the text, which would then get run through a preprocessor. Since I'm really a coder-type person, I thought in terms of cpp(1) directives, like this: #ifdef alpha_docs Feature that only applies to the alpha. #endif alpha_docs #ifdef ia64_docs Feature that only applies to the ia64. #endif ia64_docs Then I could build appropriate outputs with: % cpp < relnotes.txt1 -Dalpha_docs > alpha/RELNOTES.TXT % cpp < relnotes.txt1 -Dia64_docs > ia64/RELNOTES.TXT I've generated window manager configs like this for years, but to do this for documentation seems like a real hack. However, I was wondering if we could do something like this with DocBook to generate the release notes? Pros: 1. We would be able to collapse several (which depends on the number of architectures we support) files that need to be edited regularly down to a constant number (hardware list and release notes). 2. We would be able to generate release notes in PDF, PS, HTML, etc. Cons: 1. I'm not sure how to do this in DocBook. 2. We would need to make the DocBook toolchain part of "make release". (Well, in a sense it is already, but in addition to having the Handbook and FAQ depend on the toolchain's presence, we'd also make the release notes dependent on this too. I don't think this is a Good Thing (TM).) 3. Doing release notes in DocBook might "raise the bar" to people committing their own release notes. Thoughts? Thanks for reading this far in any case... 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------=_NextPart_000_01B3_01C03FD4.8E3309A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 26 15:42:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B24A37B4C5 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:42:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9QMY3i15506; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 23:34:03 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 23:34:03 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: nick Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <20001026233403.E14836@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <005f01c03c96$285e3f00$53e173cb@arc.net.my> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <005f01c03c96$285e3f00$53e173cb@arc.net.my>; from nick@arc.net.my on Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 10:08:34AM +0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 10:08:34AM +0800, nick wrote: > We are trying IPv6 tunneling through an IPv4 network on a FreeBSD box to > Freenet6. We understand that IP Protocol 41 has to be enabled for the > tunneling to work behind a firewall. Is this correct? Not a clue. Asking on questions@freebsd.org would probably get you a better response. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 26 15:42:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9471237B4C5; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9QLqOw15313; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 22:52:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 22:52:23 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HARDWARE.TXT and RELNOTES.TXT Message-ID: <20001026225223.A14836@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200010261915.e9QJFep73565@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200010261915.e9QJFep73565@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com>; from bmah@freebsd.org on Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 12:15:40PM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Bruce, On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 12:15:40PM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > Then I could build appropriate outputs with: > > % cpp < relnotes.txt1 -Dalpha_docs > alpha/RELNOTES.TXT > % cpp < relnotes.txt1 -Dia64_docs > ia64/RELNOTES.TXT > > I've generated window manager configs like this for years, but to do > this for documentation seems like a real hack. However, I was wondering > if we could do something like this with DocBook to generate the release > notes? Yes. What you want are called "Marked sections". See the tutorials/docproj-primer/ on the website, section 3.8 to be precise. > Pros: > > 1. We would be able to collapse several (which depends on the number of > architectures we support) files that need to be edited regularly down to > a constant number (hardware list and release notes). > > 2. We would be able to generate release notes in PDF, PS, HTML, etc. > > Cons: > > 1. I'm not sure how to do this in DocBook. > > 2. We would need to make the DocBook toolchain part of "make release". > (Well, in a sense it is already, but in addition to having the Handbook > and FAQ depend on the toolchain's presence, we'd also make the release > notes dependent on this too. I don't think this is a Good Thing (TM).) Generating plain text and HTML versions of the release notes wouldn't require anything that we don't already need when doing "make release". > 3. Doing release notes in DocBook might "raise the bar" to people > committing their own release notes. Hmm. The amount of DocBook that the release notes are likely to use should take less than five minutes for someone to pick up with no prior experience. Worst case, patches are submitted to you for inclusion. . . :-) N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 26 16: 5:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A3637B4D7; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:05:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA85681; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:05:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:05:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200010262305.QAA85681@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwm@mired.org, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22297: The FAQ entry for users mounting removable media needs updating Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: The FAQ entry for users mounting removable media needs updating State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Thu Oct 26 16:05:24 PDT 2000 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22297 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 26 16:13:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCA0037B479; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:13:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA88401; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:13:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:13:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200010262313.QAA88401@freefall.freebsd.org> To: clefevre@citeweb.net, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22140: share/doc/*/contents updated for html output w/ unroff Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: share/doc/*/contents updated for html output w/ unroff State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Thu Oct 26 16:10:12 PDT 2000 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22140 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 26 16:16:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A523D37B479; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA89405; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:16:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:16:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200010262316.QAA89405@freefall.freebsd.org> To: yar@comp.chem.msu.su, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22053: mbuf(9) man page suggested Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: mbuf(9) man page suggested State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Thu Oct 26 16:15:50 PDT 2000 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22053 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 26 16:21:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from kwanon.research.canon.com.au (kwanon.research.canon.com.au [203.12.172.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996DF37B4C5 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bellmann.research.canon.com.au (bellmann.research.canon.com.au [10.5.0.3]) by kwanon.research.canon.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113848A891; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 23:31:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from elph.research.canon.com.au (elph.research.canon.com.au [203.12.174.253]) by bellmann.research.canon.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127578B11; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:13:18 +1100 (EST) Received: from elph.research.canon.com.au (elph.research.canon.com.au [10.2.0.253]) by elph.research.canon.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D8FF; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:20:08 +1100 (EST) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:20:08 +1100 (EST) From: Iain Templeton To: "Youngman, Neil" Cc: "'doc@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: FreeBSD FAQ - Incorrect answer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, Youngman, Neil wrote: Well, I don't recall seeing another answer so... > The answer to the question "Q: How do I access the virtual consoles from X?" > is incorrect, at least misleading, for FreeBSD 3.4 > > It says "you may use only the Alt- function key to switch to another virtual > terminal or back to X Window. You do not need to also press the Ctrl key." > > I read that as meaning that to get back to an X session on virtual console 1 > I just need to use Alt-F1. That does not work. Alt-F1 just gives me the > underlying text console with messages from the X session. To get the X > session itself back I have to use Ctrl-Alt-F9! > Well, the reason for that is that although you started the X session from console 1 (via startx or whatever), the X session really runs on the first unused virtual console, which in your case was console 9. Whilst it doesn't quite say it, the previous FAQ entry implies that X doesn't run on the virtual console that you start it from. Maybe this needs to be stated explicitly. If I get bored I might run up a patch for this perhaps. You also didn't need to press Ctrl in this case. Iain To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 26 20:40:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17CD137B4C5 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 20:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id UAA96234; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 20:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from racine.cybercable.fr (racine.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 510AD37B479 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 20:36:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4033654 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2000 03:36:09 -0000 Received: from s011.dhcp212-229.cybercable.fr (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([212.198.229.11]) (envelope-sender ) by racine.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 27 Oct 2000 03:36:09 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9R3a8T74911; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 05:36:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <200010270336.e9R3a8T74911@gits.dyndns.org> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 05:36:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Cyrille Lefevre Reply-To: clefevre@citeweb.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/22333: share/doc/smm/07.lpd building moved in 3.0 ! Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 22333 >Category: docs >Synopsis: share/doc/smm/07.lpd building moved in 3.0 ! >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Oct 26 20:40:01 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Cyrille Lefevre >Release: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386 >Organization: ACME >Environment: FreeBSD gits 4.1-STABLE FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #3: Sat Sep 23 10:20:30 CEST 2000 root@gits:/disk2/4.0-stable/src/sys/compile/CUSTOM i386 >Description: can someone undo changes made in 3.0 about share/doc/smm/07.lpd building which has been moved to usr.sbin/lpr ! so, to manually generates all docs, you have to go in share/doc *AND* usr.sbin/lpr which is not consistent w/ other doc building. the question is, why these changes have been made in 3.0 ? >How-To-Repeat: n/a >Fix: apply the two following patches (one through cvs and one through diff) to undo the changes made in 3.0. Index: usr.sbin/lpr/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/lpr/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 Makefile --- usr.sbin/lpr/Makefile 1999/08/28 01:16:45 1.5 +++ usr.sbin/lpr/Makefile 2000/10/27 02:47:27 @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ # $FreeBSD: src/usr.sbin/lpr/Makefile,v 1.5 1999/08/28 01:16:45 peter Exp $ SUBDIR= common_source chkprintcap lp lpc lpd lpq lpr lprm lptest pac \ - filters filters.ru SMM.doc + filters filters.ru .include Index: share/doc/smm/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/doc/smm/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.14.2.1 diff -u -r1.14.2.1 Makefile --- share/doc/smm/Makefile 2000/08/27 17:31:41 1.14.2.1 +++ share/doc/smm/Makefile 2000/10/27 03:26:20 @@ -8,11 +8,8 @@ # 13.amd (documentation is TeXinfo) # 16.security 17.password (encumbered) -# The following modules are built with their programs: -# 07.lpd - SUBDIR= title contents 01.setup 02.config 03.fsck 04.quotas 05.fastfs \ - 06.nfs 08.sendmailop 10.named 11.timedop \ + 06.nfs 07.lpd 08.sendmailop 10.named 11.timedop \ 12.timed 18.net .include --- /dev/null Fri Oct 27 05:06:24 2000 +++ share/doc/smm/07.lpd/Makefile Mon Apr 13 16:12:37 1998 @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@ +# From: @(#)Makefile 8.1 (Berkeley) 6/8/93 +# $Id: Makefile,v 1.1.6.3 1998/03/06 13:32:26 jkh Exp $ + +VOLUME= smm/07.lpd +SRCS= 0.t 1.t 2.t 3.t 4.t 5.t 6.t 7.t +MACROS= -ms + +USE_TBL= yes +SRCDIR= ${.CURDIR}/../../../../usr.sbin/lpr/SMM.doc + +.include >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 26 22:20: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4640B37B4C5 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 22:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA35155; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 22:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from whisky.wu-wien.ac.at (whisky.wu-wien.ac.at [137.208.16.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C60D37B479 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 22:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gonter@localhost) by whisky.wu-wien.ac.at (8.11.1/8.11.0) id e9R5AxY71772; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 07:10:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gonter) Message-Id: <200010270510.e9R5AxY71772@whisky.wu-wien.ac.at> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 07:10:59 +0200 (CEST) From: Gerhard Gonter Reply-To: gonter@whisky.wu-wien.ac.at To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/22338: ugen(4) man page missing Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 22338 >Category: docs >Synopsis: ugen(4) man page missing >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Oct 26 22:20:00 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gerhard Gonter >Release: FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: The ugen(4) man page does not exist in the current source tree, it is referenced in usb(4). Apparently it was left out from the NetBSD import. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 27 0:29:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from eur.nai.com (dns-153-121.dhcp.nai.com [161.69.153.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 865D437B479 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 00:29:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by eur.nai.com; id PAA12567; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 15:30:01 GMT Received: from unknown(161.69.147.199) by amsfire3.eur.nai.com via smap (V5.5) id xma012533; Fri, 27 Oct 00 15:29:28 GMT Received: FROM ams-ex-bridge1.nai.com BY ams-webshield1.eur.nai.com ; Fri Oct 27 09:33:10 2000 +0200 Received: by ams-ex-bridge1.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 21:29:51 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Youngman, Neil" To: "'Brooks Davis'" Cc: "'doc@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: FreeBSD FAQ - Incorrect answer Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:28:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Some kind soul has already added the paragraph "To return to the X session, you must switch to the virtual console running X. , and you would use Alt+F9 to return." I might still suggest adding at the start, "X does not run in the text console from which it was started" and changing "If you have eight virtual consoles then X will be running on the ninth" to "If you have eight _text_ virtual consoles then X will be running on the ninth" The text about control lock mode in older releases has now been deleted, should this have been retained? Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Brooks Davis [mailto:brooks@one-eyed-alien.net] > Sent: 26 October 2000 17:50 > To: Youngman, Neil > Cc: 'Brooks Davis' > Subject: Re: FreeBSD FAQ - Incorrect answer > > > On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 09:14:59AM +0200, Youngman, Neil wrote: > > I stand by "misleading" then. Unless you know that X > switches to a new > > virtual console then you would expect Alt-F1 to get your X > session back. It > > would help to point this out in the answer. > > How about suggesting some corrected wording since you were the one > confused and you know the right answer now. > > -- Brooks > > -- > Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 27 0:49:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28EB337B479 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 00:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9R7nTY74445 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 16:49:29 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 16:49:29 +0900 Message-ID: <7mn1fqiv06.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HARDWARE.TXT and RELNOTES.TXT In-Reply-To: In your message of "26 Oct 2000 22:42:57 GMT" <20001026225223.A14836@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200010261915.e9QJFep73565@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <20001026225223.A14836@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.1.1 (Purple Rain) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 12) (Channel Islands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 26 Oct 2000 22:42:57 GMT, nik wrote: > On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 12:15:40PM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > Then I could build appropriate outputs with: > > > > % cpp < relnotes.txt1 -Dalpha_docs > alpha/RELNOTES.TXT > > % cpp < relnotes.txt1 -Dia64_docs > ia64/RELNOTES.TXT > > > > I've generated window manager configs like this for years, but to do > > this for documentation seems like a real hack. However, I was wondering > > if we could do something like this with DocBook to generate the release > > notes? > > Yes. What you want are called "Marked sections". See the > tutorials/docproj-primer/ on the website, section 3.8 to be precise. Hmm, I think DocBook is not suitable for RELNOTES.TXT. How about creating other simple SGML (or XML) DTD and stylesheets? -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 27 2:35:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C908137B479 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 02:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9R9ZGY78794 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 18:35:17 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 18:35:16 +0900 Message-ID: <7mhf5yiq3v.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Around web.mk things In-Reply-To: In your message of "25 Oct 2000 11:34:25 GMT" <7m7l6x40jx.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> References: <7m7l6x40jx.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.1.1 (Purple Rain) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 12) (Channel Islands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > So I propose simple way to remove these symbolic links to add web.mk > wrappers in each localized directory. OK. If there are no more negative comments, I'll do followings. o Mail to cvs@FreeBSD.org to repo-copy www/en/web.mk to www/share/mk/web.mk. o Nuke symbolic links in www/Makefile and modify other makefiles to point new www/share/mk/web.mk. I think this modification will help to transit new structure which is more independent from English version. -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 27 4: 2:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gate.trident-uk.co.uk (mail.trident-uk.co.uk [195.166.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E05637B479 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 04:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [194.207.93.139] by gate.trident-uk.co.uk for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org id LAA29475; Fri Oct 27 11:02:35 2000 Organization: Psi-Domain Ltd. Subject: documentation project Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 12:07:23 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00102712081300.00205@freefire.psi-domain.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org From: Jamie Heckford Reply-To: heckfordj@psi-domain.co.uk Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello! I would be interested in writing documentation, do you have a "to-do" or "wish list"? Regards, -- Jamie Heckford Chief Network Engineer Psi-Domain - Innovative Linux Solutions. Ask Us How. =================================== email: heckfordj@psi-domain.co.uk web: http://www.psi-domain.co.uk/ tel: +44 (0)1737 789 246 fax: +44 (0)1737 789 245 mobile: +44 (0)7779 646 529 =================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 27 4:14:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [194.128.198.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD0637B4C5 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 04:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9RAx5901859; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 11:59:05 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 11:58:55 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HARDWARE.TXT and RELNOTES.TXT Message-ID: <20001027115855.B1773@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200010261915.e9QJFep73565@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <20001026225223.A14836@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <7mn1fqiv06.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <7mn1fqiv06.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp>; from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp on Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 04:49:29PM +0900 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 04:49:29PM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > Hmm, I think DocBook is not suitable for RELNOTES.TXT. How about > creating other simple SGML (or XML) DTD and stylesheets? What, specifically, do you think makes DocBook unsuitable? Yes, it's a bit on the large side, but if someone's building a release they should already have most of the tools necessary. We're probably only going to end up using 15-20 DocBook elements in the release notes, but anyone editing the release notes should be able to see from the rest of the file what markup to use. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 27 4:14:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [194.128.198.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 226BA37B4C5 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 04:14:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9RAqu701791; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 11:52:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 11:52:56 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Around web.mk things Message-ID: <20001027115256.A1773@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <7m7l6x40jx.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <7mhf5yiq3v.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <7mhf5yiq3v.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp>; from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp on Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 06:35:16PM +0900 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 06:35:16PM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > > So I propose simple way to remove these symbolic links to add web.mk > > wrappers in each localized directory. > > OK. If there are no more negative comments, I'll do followings. > > o Mail to cvs@FreeBSD.org to repo-copy www/en/web.mk to > www/share/mk/web.mk. > o Nuke symbolic links in www/Makefile and modify other makefiles to > point new www/share/mk/web.mk. > > I think this modification will help to transit new structure which is > more independent from English version. Looks fine to me. Although, if we're going to do a repo copy, perhaps we can be consistent with doc/ and src/, and call it web..mk? Perhaps web.site.mk or similar? I see a future need for things like web.images.mk, web.html.mk, and so on. . . N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 27 5: 6:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [194.128.198.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 876D037B479 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 05:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9RC4tW41027; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 13:04:55 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 13:04:53 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jamie Heckford Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: documentation project Message-ID: <20001027130452.C1773@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <00102712081300.00205@freefire.psi-domain.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <00102712081300.00205@freefire.psi-domain.co.uk>; from heckfordj@psi-domain.co.uk on Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 12:07:23PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jamie, On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 12:07:23PM +0100, Jamie Heckford wrote: > I would be interested in writing documentation, do you have a "to-do" > or "wish list"? [...] > Jamie Heckford > Chief Network Engineer > Psi-Domain - Innovative Linux Solutions. Ask Us How. I'd love to see a "FreeBSD for Linux users" document, that goes through how a FreeBSD box is configured as compared to a Linux box. For example. Section 16 Users, groups, and passwords FreeBSD has users, groups, and passwords, as do all Unix variants. Passwords are stored in /etc/master.passwd, while the other user information is stored /etc/passwd. Group information is stored in /etc/group. 16.1 Editing /etc/passwd Don't. Because user information is stored in /etc/master.passwd and /etc/passwd, if you just edit one or the other they will get out of sync. Instead, use the vipw(8) command, which will launch $EDITOR. When you have finished editing the password file, vipw(8) will ensure that changes you make are propogated correctly. 16.2 Adding a new user On Redhat you would use ... On Debian you would use ... On SuSE you would use ... On FreeBSD, use the adduser(1) command. A typical run would be ... And so on, and so forth. You don't need to write the whole thing. Frankly, right now I'd just like to a see skeleton document with some bits filled in. Other people can fill in specific sections as necessary. How does that sound? N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 27 5:27:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from schleimscheisser.invalid (hmbdi7-212-144-240-046.arcor-ip.net [212.144.240.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE0537B479 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 05:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyraxxpc.invalid ([192.168.1.1]) by schleimscheisser.invalid (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id OAA11062 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 14:26:25 +0200 Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 14:27:10 +0200 From: Andreas Reich X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.41) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Reply-To: Andreas Reich Organization: Scention Labs X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1602.001027@scention.de> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: documentation project In-reply-To: <20001027130452.C1773@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20001027130452.C1773@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton (nik@FreeBSD.ORG) wrote: NC> I'd love to see a "FreeBSD for Linux users" document, that goes through how NC> a FreeBSD box is configured as compared to a Linux box. [...] NC> You don't need to write the whole thing. Frankly, right now I'd just like NC> to a see skeleton document with some bits filled in. Other people can NC> fill in specific sections as necessary. Great idea! That would really make using FreeBSD easier for Linux Guys like me. -- Andreas Reich ICQ #19338732 webmaster@cyraxx.de http://www.cyraxx.de/ webmaster-der-w@uerstchenbu.de http://w.uerstchenbu.de/ andreas@andreasreich.net http://www.gar-nichts.de/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 27 5:33:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from topaz.ocn.ne.jp (topaz.ocn.ne.jp [210.232.239.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1EEC37B4D7 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 05:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x44ue6ea (p0451-ip01kyoto.kyoto.ocn.ne.jp [211.123.235.197]) by topaz.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN/) with ESMTP id VAA20555 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 21:32:33 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <739.972650056240@topaz.ocn.ne.jp> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 21:34:16 +0900 (JST) From: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCJTUlLyU7JTklKyVzJVElSyE8GyhC?= To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 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"unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 27 5:43:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C6037B4C5 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 05:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9RChHY80229 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 21:43:19 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 21:43:17 +0900 Message-ID: <7mem12ihei.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Around web.mk things In-Reply-To: In your message of "Fri, 27 Oct 2000 11:52:56 +0100" <20001027115256.A1773@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <7m7l6x40jx.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <7mhf5yiq3v.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20001027115256.A1773@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.1.1 (Purple Rain) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 12) (Channel Islands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 27 Oct 2000 11:14:56 GMT, nik wrote: > Looks fine to me. Although, if we're going to do a repo copy, perhaps > we can be consistent with doc/ and src/, and call it web..mk? > Perhaps web.site.mk or similar? I see a future need for things like > web.images.mk, web.html.mk, and so on. . . Ah, that's good. I don't think we have other web..mk near future, but using web.site.mk is OK for me. -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 27 6: 1:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [194.128.198.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CECB37B4C5 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 06:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9RCpaF41598; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 13:51:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 13:51:35 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Andreas Reich Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: documentation project Message-ID: <20001027135135.D1773@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20001027130452.C1773@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <1602.001027@scention.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <1602.001027@scention.de>; from webmaster@cyraxx.de on Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 02:27:10PM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 02:27:10PM +0200, Andreas Reich wrote: > Great idea! > That would really make using FreeBSD easier for Linux Guys like me. Good. Your contribution will be gratefully accepted. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 27 6:11: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F26F37B6D8 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 06:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9RDAoY80483 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:10:50 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:10:50 +0900 Message-ID: <7md7gmig4l.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HARDWARE.TXT and RELNOTES.TXT In-Reply-To: In your message of "Fri, 27 Oct 2000 11:58:55 +0100" <20001027115855.B1773@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200010261915.e9QJFep73565@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <20001026225223.A14836@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <7mn1fqiv06.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20001027115855.B1773@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.1.1 (Purple Rain) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 12) (Channel Islands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 27 Oct 2000 11:14:51 GMT, nik wrote: > What, specifically, do you think makes DocBook unsuitable? Yes, it's a > bit on the large side, but if someone's building a release they should > already have most of the tools necessary. We're probably only going to > end up using 15-20 DocBook elements in the release notes, but anyone editing > the release notes should be able to see from the rest of the file what > markup to use. I think DocBook is not suitable if we treat source file of RELNOTES.TXT as data. If so, SGML data file should have appropriate structure for that data's structure. But if we treat source file of RELNOTES.TXT as document, DocBook is fine. Having SGML structured data is ideal (really? :-), but it seems too far to achieve. So treating them as documents and using DocBook will be good start. -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 27 7:35:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from www.cambs.net (cambs.net [212.240.177.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A539237B4C5 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 07:35:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oliver ([212.240.177.5]) by www.cambs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA06945 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 15:35:26 +0100 Message-ID: <000801c04023$cb3bc9a0$05b1f0d4@cambs.net> From: "Oliver Mills" To: Subject: Booting into Free BSD. Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 15:40:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0402C.2C6180A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0402C.2C6180A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have downloaded FreeBSD onto the Bootable floppy disks and have just = attempted to Boot the computer into the FreeBSD setup Program. I Inserted the 1st disk (kern.flp) into the A: and booted up the PC, it = then proceded to boot, but it did not ask me to insert the mfsroot.flp = disk it simply told /asked me the following: Disk Error 0x10 (LBA=3D0x41) No/Boot/Loader >>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Default:0:FD (0,A)/Kernel Boot: No Kernel >>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Default: 0:FD (0,a)/Kernel I have no idea what this means but i gather that it is not meant to = happen! I would be very thankful if sombady could tell me what needs to be done = to rectify the situation. Thanks Oliver Mills =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0402C.2C6180A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have downloaded FreeBSD onto the = Bootable floppy=20 disks and have just attempted to Boot the computer into the FreeBSD = setup=20 Program.
 
I Inserted the 1st disk (kern.flp) into = the A: and=20 booted up the PC, it then proceded to boot, but it did not ask me to = insert the=20 mfsroot.flp disk it simply told /asked me the following:
 
       =20             Disk Error 0x10 = (LBA=3D0x41)
       =20            =20 No/Boot/Loader
 
       =20             = >>FreeBSD/i386=20 BOOT
       =20             Default:0:FD=20 (0,A)/Kernel
       =20             = Boot:
       =20             No = Kernel
 
       =20             = >>FreeBSD/i386=20 BOOT
       =20             Default: 0:FD=20 (0,a)/Kernel
 
I have no idea what this means but i = gather that it=20 is not meant to happen!
 
I would be very thankful if sombady = could tell me=20 what needs to be done to rectify the situation.
 
Thanks
 
Oliver Mills   =20
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0402C.2C6180A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 27 7:39:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E15D37B479 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 07:39:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA86068; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:38:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:38:01 -0400 From: Michael Lucas To: Oliver Mills Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Booting into Free BSD. Message-ID: <20001027103801.A86014@blackhelicopters.org> References: <000801c04023$cb3bc9a0$05b1f0d4@cambs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <000801c04023$cb3bc9a0$05b1f0d4@cambs.net>; from oliver@crownhill.co.uk on Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 03:40:03PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, You should really ask this over on freebsd-questions@freebsd.org. The folks here just write docs. ==ml On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 03:40:03PM +0100, Oliver Mills wrote: > I have downloaded FreeBSD onto the Bootable floppy disks and have just attempted to Boot the computer into the FreeBSD setup Program. > > I Inserted the 1st disk (kern.flp) into the A: and booted up the PC, it then proceded to boot, but it did not ask me to insert the mfsroot.flp disk it simply told /asked me the following: > > Disk Error 0x10 (LBA=0x41) > No/Boot/Loader > > >>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT > Default:0:FD (0,A)/Kernel > Boot: > No Kernel > > >>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT > Default: 0:FD (0,a)/Kernel > > I have no idea what this means but i gather that it is not meant to happen! > > I would be very thankful if sombady could tell me what needs to be done to rectify the situation. > > Thanks > > Oliver Mills -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 27 9:32:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3617337B479 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:32:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E9F6B1360E; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 12:32:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 12:32:18 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: /dev/drum remnants Message-ID: <20001027123218.A41829@peitho.fxp.org> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Faulhaber , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org /dev/drum was removed quite a while ago; however, it is still referred to in a few man pages (MAKEDEV.8, dmesg.8, ps.1, systat.1). Would anyone care to review the following diffs to remove /dev/drum references and add kvm references as appropriate? -- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org Index: MAKEDEV.8 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man8/man8.alpha/MAKEDEV.8,v retrieving revision 1.15 diff -u -r1.15 MAKEDEV.8 --- MAKEDEV.8 1999/09/22 21:42:58 1.15 +++ MAKEDEV.8 2000/10/27 16:22:07 @@ -72,7 +72,7 @@ must be replaced by a unit number. .Bl -tag -width indent .It std -the standard devices (console, drum, fd/*, klog, kmem, mem, null, +the standard devices (console, fd/*, klog, kmem, mem, null, stderr, stdin, stdout, tty) .It local configuration specific devices Index: MAKEDEV.8 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man8/man8.i386/MAKEDEV.8,v retrieving revision 1.15 diff -u -r1.15 MAKEDEV.8 --- MAKEDEV.8 1999/11/12 04:03:04 1.15 +++ MAKEDEV.8 2000/10/27 16:21:58 @@ -70,7 +70,7 @@ must be replaced by a unit number. .Bl -tag -width indent .It std -the standard devices (console, drum, fd/*, klog, kmem, mem, null, +the standard devices (console, fd/*, klog, kmem, mem, null, stderr, stdin, stdout, tty) .It local configuration specific devices Index: dmesg.8 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sbin/dmesg/dmesg.8,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 dmesg.8 --- dmesg.8 1999/08/28 00:12:35 1.5 +++ dmesg.8 2000/05/07 18:48:36 @@ -62,7 +62,6 @@ .Bl -tag -width /etc/kmem -compact .It Pa /dev/mem .It Pa /dev/kmem -.It Pa /dev/drum .It Pa /kernel .El .Sh HISTORY Index: ps.1 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/bin/ps/ps.1,v retrieving revision 1.24 diff -u -r1.24 ps.1 --- ps.1 1999/08/27 23:14:51 1.24 +++ ps.1 2000/05/07 18:36:32 @@ -164,9 +164,8 @@ .Fl m option. .It Fl W -Extract swap information from the specified file instead of the -default -.Pa /dev/drum . +Extract swap information from the specified file instead of +using libkvm. .It Fl w Use 132 columns to display information, instead of the default which is your window size. Index: systat.1 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.bin/systat/systat.1,v retrieving revision 1.23 diff -u -r1.23 systat.1 --- systat.1 2000/03/02 14:53:32 1.23 +++ systat.1 2000/05/07 18:40:44 @@ -490,6 +490,7 @@ .Xr iostat 8 , .Xr netstat 1 , .Xr vmstat 8 , +.Xr kvm 3 , .Xr icmp 4 , .Xr ip 4 , .Xr tcp 4 , @@ -500,8 +501,6 @@ For the namelist. .It Pa /dev/kmem For information in main memory. -.It Pa /dev/drum -For information about swapped out processes. .It Pa /etc/hosts For host names. .It Pa /etc/networks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 27 9:38:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834C837B479 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:38:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA86668 for doc@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 12:38:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 12:38:38 -0400 From: Michael Lucas To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: linking to FAQ? Message-ID: <20001027123838.B86573@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks, I'm planning a project where I need to link to various portions of the FAQ. Being new to the innards of the FreeBSD docs, please pardon me if this is a damnfool question. :) Looking through the FAQ, I see that the various questions are marked as: admin.html#AEN2328 Are those links constant? For example, if I say "to mount other foreign filesystems under FreeBSD, see , will that still work when you add something earlier up in the FAQ? Or do those numbers change? I presume you have the selection process documented somewhere? ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 27 10:39: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pm.highway.ne.jp (pm.highway.ne.jp [210.166.100.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17DCC37B4C5; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from C07_Tzsizyvz (x53-195.kobe.highway.ne.jp [203.140.12.195]) by pm.highway.ne.jp (8.9.3/3.7W00102715) with SMTP id CAA09063; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 02:33:36 +0900 (JST) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 02:21:06 +0900 Received: (shiroyagi 2.5.2 Release build 1409) ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 02:21:07 +0900 (JST) From: ii1254hd@waswes9.com Reply-To: xxx@owner.ac To: "0008@0008" Message-ID: 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$B#Q!!M9JX6IN1$a$K$D$$$F65$($F$/$@$5$$!#(B $B#A!!Bg$-$JD9=j$O!"<+J,$N=;=j$r5-F~$7$J$/$F$b$$$$!"Bg$-$JM9JX6I$G$OEZF|(B $B!!!!$d#2#4;~4V$Nl$d3X9;$N6a$/$GZL@=q$NDs<($,I,MW$G$9$N$G!"56L>$G$Ne5-0J30$N5?LdE@$K$OJVEz$$$?$7$+$M$^$9!#$[$H$s$I$N5?Ld$K$O(B $B!!BP1~$7$F$$$k$H9M$($i$l$^$9!#(B $B"(CmJ8$5$l$k$+$?$O!"#Q!u#A$rFI$s$G$4Ge$GCmJ8$7$F$/$@$5$$!#(B To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 27 11:55: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A7837B479 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 11:55:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9RIt0P23000; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 11:55:00 -0700 Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 11:55:00 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: "Youngman, Neil" Cc: "'doc@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: FreeBSD FAQ - Incorrect answer Message-ID: <20001027115500.A22276@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Neil_Youngman@NAI.com on Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 09:28:22AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 09:28:22AM +0200, Youngman, Neil wrote: > Some kind soul has already added the paragraph "To return to the X session, > you must switch to the virtual console running X. , and you would use Alt+F9 > to return." > > I might still suggest adding at the start, "X does not run in the text > console from which it was started" and changing "If you have eight virtual > consoles then X will be running on the ninth" to "If you have eight _text_ > virtual consoles then X will be running on the ninth" The first suggestion is good. The second one isn't correct. There is nothing stopping one of those eight consoles from being another X session. Here's a proposed diff: --- book.sgml 2000/10/26 23:07:29 1.112 +++ book.sgml 2000/10/27 18:48:35 @@ -6941,8 +6941,11 @@ as normal to move between them. To return to the X session, you must switch to the virtual - console running X. If you have eight virtual consoles then X will - be running on the ninth, and you would use + console running X. If invoked from the command line, (i.e. + via startx) an X session will attach to + then next free virtual console, not the text console from + which it was envoked. If you have eight virtual consoles + then X will be running on the ninth, and you would use Alt F9 > The text about control lock mode in older releases has now been deleted, > should this have been retained? It doesn't seem very useful to me. -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. 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Wells" X-Sender: jcwells@utah To: khoirul anam Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: i need unix installer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, khoirul anam wrote: > give me unix installer Start here. http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html Thank you, Jason C. Wells To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 27 22:14:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.nwlink.com (smtp.nwlink.com [209.20.130.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1CB37B479 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:14:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from utah (jcwells@utah.nwlink.com [209.20.130.41]) by smtp.nwlink.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA18566; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:27:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jcwells@utah To: rovie wibisono Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: i need manual book free BSD In-Reply-To: <20001028035129.21209.qmail@web10603.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, rovie wibisono wrote: > i need manual book free BSD, Start here. http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ or http://www.wccdrom.com/titles/freebsd/bsdcomp_bkx.phtml Thank you, Jason C. Wells To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 28 0:30: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C4337B4CF for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 00:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id AAA42478; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 00:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from starbug.ugh.net.au (starbug.ugh.net.au [203.31.238.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88CAB37B479 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 00:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6CFB7A842; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 18:29:28 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <20001028072928.6CFB7A842@starbug.ugh.net.au> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 18:29:28 +1100 (EST) From: andrew@ugh.net.au Reply-To: andrew@ugh.net.au To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/22371: style(9) example violates style(9) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 22371 >Category: docs >Synopsis: style(9) example violates style(9) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Oct 28 00:30:01 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andrew >Release: FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386 >Organization: UgH! >Environment: >Description: In style(9) there is an example of a usage function that has the line: exit(1); style(9) states elsewhere: Exits should be 0 on success, or according to the predefined values in sysexits(3). Presumably that should therefore read: exit(EX_USAGE); I thought I PRed about this years ago but I can't find it when I do a search so sorry if this is a duplicate. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- style.9.orig Sat Oct 28 17:20:44 2000 +++ style.9 Sat Oct 28 17:21:17 2000 @@ -530,7 +530,7 @@ .Ed .Bd -literal -offset 0i (void)fprintf(stderr, "usage: f [-ab]\en"); - exit(1); + exit(EX_USAGE); } .Ed .Pp >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 28 2:11: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from port.teleport.ee (port.teleport.ee [212.107.32.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EFD637B4D7 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 02:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from olja (ppp41104.tele2.ee [212.107.41.104]) by port.teleport.ee (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA18504 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:10:54 +0200 Message-Id: <200010280910.LAA18504@port.teleport.ee> From: olja To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: privet! X-Mailer: Outlook Express Reply-To: olja@mail.ru Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:08:11 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org kak dela? davno tebja ne vidno bylo. kak zizn, napishi o sebe.... a ja shas uchus, teper vremja est v internete sidet :) ja teper chasto v chate sizu http://ultra.profic.ee/ ladno, poka Olja To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 28 2:55:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EBAC37B479 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 02:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fmrl03.sul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 13pShd-0002DW-00; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:55:05 +0200 Received: from neutron.cichlids.com (520050424122-0001@[62.225.192.31]) by fmrl03.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 13pShd-1KUwj2C; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:55:05 +0200 Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC3AAB91; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:57:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cichlids.cichlids.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A456314B2C; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:54:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:54:56 +0200 To: Michael Lucas Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: linking to FAQ? Message-ID: <20001028115456.A79947@cichlids.cichlids.com> References: <20001027123838.B86573@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001027123838.B86573@blackhelicopters.org>; from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org on Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 12:38:38PM -0400 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. From: alex@big.endian.de (Alexander Langer) X-Sender: 520050424122-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake Michael Lucas (mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org): > admin.html#AEN2328 > Are those links constant? For example, if I say "to mount other No. Unfortunately not. At the moment there is no way to directly link questions. Sorry, Alex -- cat: /home/alex/.sig: No such file or directory To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 28 2:56:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com (mailout04.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4AE837B479 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 02:56:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fmrl02.sul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 13pSj0-0005Iw-00; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:56:30 +0200 Received: from neutron.cichlids.com (520050424122-0001@[62.225.192.31]) by fmrl02.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 13pSix-1uWu36C; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:56:27 +0200 Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E6DBAB91; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:59:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cichlids.cichlids.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F3CA814B2C; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:56:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:56:19 +0200 To: Chris Faulhaber Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /dev/drum remnants Message-ID: <20001028115619.B79947@cichlids.cichlids.com> References: <20001027123218.A41829@peitho.fxp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001027123218.A41829@peitho.fxp.org>; from jedgar@fxp.org on Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 12:32:18PM -0400 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. From: alex@big.endian.de (Alexander Langer) X-Sender: 520050424122-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake Chris Faulhaber (jedgar@fxp.org): > /dev/drum was removed quite a while ago; however, it is still referred to > in a few man pages (MAKEDEV.8, dmesg.8, ps.1, systat.1). Would anyone > care to review the following diffs to remove /dev/drum references and add > kvm references as appropriate? I don't know, what drum was, but the patch is fine :) Alex -- cat: /home/alex/.sig: No such file or directory To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 28 3: 7:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4171B37B4C5; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 03:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from alex@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id DAA10810; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 03:07:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 03:07:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200010281007.DAA10810@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andrew@ugh.net.au, alex@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22371: style(9) example violates style(9) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: style(9) example violates style(9) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: alex State-Changed-When: Sat Oct 28 03:06:59 PDT 2000 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22371 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 28 7:10: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44EA837B4C5 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 07:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA43934; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 07:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from starbug.ugh.net.au (starbug.ugh.net.au [203.31.238.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 121D237B4C5 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 07:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4F215A842; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 01:07:19 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <20001028140719.4F215A842@starbug.ugh.net.au> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 01:07:19 +1100 (EST) From: andrew@ugh.net.au Reply-To: andrew@ugh.net.au To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/22374: typo in getcap(3) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 22374 >Category: docs >Synopsis: typo in getcap(3) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Oct 28 07:10:01 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andrew >Release: FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386 >Organization: UgH! >Environment: >Description: The c in cgetent is capatalised on the first line of the description in getcap(3). If cgetent was a regular word this would be correct but as it is a (case sensitive) function name it should always appear lower case. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- getcap.3.orig Sun Oct 29 00:02:40 2000 +++ getcap.3 Sun Oct 29 00:03:22 2000 @@ -75,7 +75,7 @@ .Ft int .Fn cgetclose "void" .Sh DESCRIPTION -.Fn Cgetent +.Fn cgetent extracts the capability .Fa name from the database specified by the >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 28 7:50:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80A637B4D7 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 07:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA75358; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 07:50:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from starbug.ugh.net.au (starbug.ugh.net.au [203.31.238.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3971737B4C5 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 07:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BEA9FA842; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 01:49:57 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <20001028144957.BEA9FA842@starbug.ugh.net.au> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 01:49:57 +1100 (EST) From: andrew@ugh.net.au Reply-To: andrew@ugh.net.au To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/22375: viewing login_cap(3) causes error to be emitted Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 22375 >Category: docs >Synopsis: viewing login_cap(3) causes error to be emitted >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Oct 28 07:50:03 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andrew >Release: FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386 >Organization: UgH! >Environment: >Description: When formatting login_cap(3) an error is emitted: Unknown FreeBSD version ``),'' at line 320 >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: This fix prevents the error message but places an extraneous space before the ). I'm not sure how to fix that. --- login_cap.3.orig Sun Oct 29 00:00:24 2000 +++ login_cap.3 Sun Oct 29 00:12:11 2000 @@ -317,7 +317,8 @@ Time values are normally used for setting resource, accounting and session limits. If supported by the operating system and compiler (which is true of -.Fx ), +.Fx +), the value returned is a quad (long long), of type .Em rlim_t . A value "inf" or "infinity" may be used to express an infinite >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 28 8:29: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from comp.chem.msu.su (comp.chem.msu.su [158.250.32.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7196A37B479; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 08:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from yar@localhost) by comp.chem.msu.su (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA22063; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 19:28:25 +0400 (MSD) From: Yar Tikhiy Message-Id: <200010281528.TAA22063@comp.chem.msu.su> Subject: Re: docs/22053: mbuf(9) man page suggested In-Reply-To: <200010262316.QAA89405@freefall.freebsd.org> from "nik@FreeBSD.org" at "Oct 26, 0 04:16:11 pm" To: nik@FreeBSD.org Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 19:28:25 +0400 (MSD) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, > Synopsis: mbuf(9) man page suggested > > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > State-Changed-By: nik > State-Changed-When: Thu Oct 26 16:15:50 PDT 2000 > State-Changed-Why: > Committed, thanks. Sorry to disturb you, but I've found a error in the man page, when it speaks about the ``mtod'' macro. I've also added a couple of details about functions used to manage mbufs. All the changes are included in the small patch below. SY, Yar --- mbuf.man.old Tue Oct 17 20:42:56 2000 +++ mbuf.man Sat Oct 28 19:21:19 2000 @@ -36,7 +36,7 @@ .Fd #include .\" .Ss Mbuf manipulation macros -.Fn mtod "struct mbuf *mbuf" "any type" +.Fn mtod "struct mbuf *mbuf" "TYPE" .Fn MGET "struct mbuf *mbuf" "int how" "short type" .Fn MGETHDR "struct mbuf *mbuf" "int how" "short type" .Fn MCLGET "struct mbuf *mbuf" "int how" @@ -200,14 +200,17 @@ developer not to worry about mbuf internals. The macros are: .\" .Bl -ohang -offset indent -.It Fn mtod mbuf type -Convert a mbuf pointer to a data pointer. -The macro expands to the data pointer cast to the pointer to the specified type. +.It Fn mtod mbuf TYPE +Convert a mbuf pointer to a pointer to the data contained in the mbuf +itself or in its external storage. The pointer to the data is cast to +the specified type. Usually, it's a pointer to a header structure, +or the character array type. .Sy Note : You must usually ensure that there is enough contiguous data in the mbuf. See .Fn m_pullup for details. +.\" .It Fn MGET mbuf how type Allocate a mbuf and initialize it to contain internal data. .Fa Mbuf @@ -304,11 +307,16 @@ .Dv NULL on failure .Pq the chain is freed in this case . -.Sy Note : +.Sy Notes : It doesn't allocate any clusters, so .Fa len must be less than .Dv MHLEN . +The function will fail and return +.Dv NULL +if there is less data than +.Fa len +bytes. .\" .It Fn m_copym mbuf offset len how Make a copy of an mbuf chain starting @@ -355,12 +363,16 @@ starting at .Fa offset bytes from the beginning of the chain, extending the mbuf chain if necessary. -.Sy Note : +.Sy Notes : It doesn't allocate any clusters, just adds mbufs to the chain. It's safe to set .Fa offset beyond the current chain end: zeroed mbufs will be allocated to fill the -space. +space; +.Fa buf +may be +.Dv NULL +in this case, just causing the mbuf chain's tail to grow. .\" .It Fn m_devget buf len offset ifp copy Copy data from a device local memory pointed to by To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 28 9:49:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from laguna.tiscalinet.it (laguna.tiscalinet.it [195.130.224.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 522FB37B479 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 09:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from giulio (62.11.130.140) by laguna.tiscalinet.it; 28 Oct 2000 18:48:12 +0200 Message-ID: <000801c040fd$ba4bb080$8c820b3e@giulio> From: "Giuseppe Gargano" To: Subject: Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 18:40:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0410E.7D0B1600" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0410E.7D0B1600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0410E.7D0B1600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0410E.7D0B1600-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 28 11:38:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4742937B479; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:38:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA15450; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:38:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:38:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200010281838.LAA15450@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andrew@ugh.net.au, mpp@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22374: typo in getcap(3) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: typo in getcap(3) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: mpp State-Changed-When: Sat Oct 28 11:37:43 PDT 2000 State-Changed-Why: Problem fixed in a slightly different manner than the supplied patch. I also cleaned up a few other similar style problems within the man page. Thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22374 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 28 11:41:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E50B37B479; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA16370; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:41:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:41:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200010281841.LAA16370@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andrew@ugh.net.au, mpp@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22375: viewing login_cap(3) causes error to be emitted Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: viewing login_cap(3) causes error to be emitted State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: mpp State-Changed-When: Sat Oct 28 11:40:40 PDT 2000 State-Changed-Why: Already fixed in rev 1.19 of login_cap.3 on 7/6/00. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22375 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 28 11:52:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD8337B479; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id UAA08279; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 20:51:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id UAA02291; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 20:17:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 20:17:13 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: kelleye@osd.bsdi.com Cc: Wolfram Schneider , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: WWW.FreeBSD.Org Message-ID: <20001028201713.A2234@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from kelleye@osd.bsdi.com on Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 01:29:29PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [cc: freebsd-doc] Hi Kelleye, On 2000-10-27 13:29:29 -0700, kelleye@osd.bsdi.com wrote: > Hi, > > I've been asked to ask you if you could change a few things on the > FreeBSD.org website to reflect the BSDi/WC CDRom/Telenet Systems merger. > > Specifically I've been asked to see if you could change the references to > "Walnut Creek CDRom" to read "BSDi Open Source Solutions", and and > "Telenet Systems" to read "BSDi Internet Server Solutions". > > WC CDRom/BSDi OpenSource should be linked to http://www.osd.bsdi.com/ ^^ really with a lowercase 'CDRom' instead 'CDROM'? > (instead of www.cdrom.com) > > and Telenet/BSDi Servers should all go to http://hardware.bsdi.com/ > (instead of http://www.tesys.com/) http://hardware.bsdi.com is an ugly intershop4 page.... -Wolfram > I may have missed some references, but I mostly found them here: > > http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/hardware.html#LETTER_T > Telenet System Solutions, Inc. > > http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/misc.html >
  • > Walnut Creek CDROM > > http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/consulting.html#The_FreeBSD_Mall > The FreeBSD Mall offers support contracts for FreeBSD through Walnut > Creek CDROM... > > If I've written this up badly, and you've no idea what I'm asking, feel > free to email and ask me to better explain. > > Is this something you could do? > > Thanks, > > -Kel > > -- > Kelleye L. Bennett-Vinci > kelleye@osd.bsdi.com > Webmistress > BSDi Webmaster Team > Open Source Solutions -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 28 12: 1:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.sohu.com (unknown [202.106.185.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2DE37B4C5 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 12:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 11 ([61.133.134.58]) by smtp03.sohu.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Sun, 29 Oct 2000 02:48:52 +0800 Message-ID: <000801c04111$72d84740$6f64a8c0@11> From: "sohu" To: Subject: Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 02:53:01 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C04153.59F20C60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C04153.59F20C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 c3Vic2NyaWJlIGZyZWVic2QtYW5ub3VuY2UgbmFpdmVhZ2VAeWVhaC5uZXQNCg0K ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C04153.59F20C60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PCFET0NUWVBFIEhUTUwgUFVCTElDICItLy9XM0MvL0RURCBIVE1MIDQuMCBUcmFuc2l0aW9uYWwv L0VOIj4NCjxIVE1MPjxIRUFEPg0KPE1FVEEgY29udGVudD0idGV4dC9odG1sOyBjaGFyc2V0PWdi MjMxMiIgaHR0cC1lcXVpdj1Db250ZW50LVR5cGU+DQo8TUVUQSBjb250ZW50PSJNU0hUTUwgNS4w MC4yNjE0LjM1MDAiIG5hbWU9R0VORVJBVE9SPg0KPFNUWUxFPjwvU1RZTEU+DQo8L0hFQUQ+DQo8 Qk9EWSBiZ0NvbG9yPSNmZmZmZmY+DQo8RElWPjxGT05UIHNpemU9Mj5zdWJzY3JpYmUgZnJlZWJz ZC1hbm5vdW5jZSANCm5haXZlYWdlQHllYWgubmV0PEJSPjwvRk9OVD48L0RJVj48L0JPRFk+PC9I VE1MPg0K ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C04153.59F20C60-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 28 14:12:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4407937B4CF for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 14:12:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9SKXKm02946; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 21:33:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 21:33:20 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Michael Lucas Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: linking to FAQ? Message-ID: <20001028213319.A2503@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20001027123838.B86573@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001027123838.B86573@blackhelicopters.org>; from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org on Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 12:38:38PM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael, On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 12:38:38PM -0400, Michael Lucas wrote: > I'm planning a project where I need to link to various portions of the > FAQ. Being new to the innards of the FreeBSD docs, please pardon me > if this is a damnfool question. :) > > Looking through the FAQ, I see that the various questions are marked > as: > > admin.html#AEN2328 > > Are those links constant? For example, if I say "to mount other > foreign filesystems under FreeBSD, see , > will that still work when you add something earlier up in the FAQ? Or > do those numbers change? Yes and no. Numbers like that are automatically generated by the doc build process, and are subject to change at every opportunity. Currently, the stylesheets generate them by taking the string AEN (Automatic Element Number, I guess) and then appending the current element number. The current element number is going to change every time a new element (such as , or even ) is added to the document, so while it's stable over multiple generations of the same document, as soon as a new element is added the numbers all change. Fortunately, we have finer grained control than this. If an 'id' attribute exists on the element then the stylesheets will use that instead. So question 6.1 in the FAQ looks something like this: I'd like to customize my kernel. Is it difficult? ... which means that you can reach this question by going to book.html#MAKE-KERNEL (notice that the attribute values are uppercased, although in reality, the browsers shouldn't care). So, if you want to supply us with sensible id values for the question's you're going to be linking to (or better still, a patch to the book.sgml which does it). That's option 1. Option 2, which is less stable, is something I'm about to commit to the tree. At the moment, questions aren't numbered. Clearly I'd picked up the crack pipe a bit too frequently, and had elected to turn off the numbering. I'm just about to turn that on. I'm also going to commit a little bit of DSSSL code that changes the generation of NAMEs for elements that don't have an ID. Instead of using AEN + the element number, for questions it will now be "Q" plus the question number (e.g., 6.2.) so you might link to http://www.freebsd.org/faq/admin.html#Q7.8. Note the trailing '.', it's required. That's less stable than supplying us with IDs, because if a new question is added before this one in section 7 then a renumbering will happen. But it's better than what we've got at the moment. Hope that helps. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 28 14:29: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F5D37B4E5 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 14:29:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9SLPT103289; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 22:25:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 22:25:29 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Brooks Davis Cc: "Youngman, Neil" , "'doc@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: FreeBSD FAQ - Incorrect answer Message-ID: <20001028222528.B2503@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20001027115500.A22276@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001027115500.A22276@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu>; from brooks@one-eyed-alien.net on Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 11:55:00AM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 11:55:00AM -0700, Brooks Davis wrote: > The first suggestion is good. The second one isn't correct. There is > nothing stopping one of those eight consoles from being another X session. > > Here's a proposed diff: Ta, committed. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 28 15:26:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1C337B479; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 15:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA96533; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 15:26:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 15:26:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200010282226.PAA96533@freefall.freebsd.org> To: berend@pobox.com, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22195: type in file Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: type in file State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Sat Oct 28 15:25:51 PDT 2000 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. In the future, you'll probably get a faster response sending these as ports PRs rather than doc PRs. But thanks for sending it. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22195 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 28 15:34:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4F437B479; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 15:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA98959; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 15:34:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 15:34:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200010282234.PAA98959@freefall.freebsd.org> To: matt@gsicomp.on.ca, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/21981: GENERIC needs improved comments for MII NICs Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: GENERIC needs improved comments for MII NICs State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Sat Oct 28 15:34:10 PDT 2000 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=21981 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 28 15:50: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F2A37B479; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 15:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA04328; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 15:50:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 15:50:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200010282250.PAA04328@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, kris@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/21767: sample sshd_config errors for kerberos Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: sample sshd_config errors for kerberos Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->kris Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Oct 28 15:48:32 PDT 2000 Responsible-Changed-Why: Kris (in #bsdcode) thinks there's a problem, but that the suggested fix isn't right. He's much more knowledgable in these affairs than I am, so he gets to play with the PR :-) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=21767 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 28 16:12:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C3C37B479; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 16:12:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9SLkRv03460; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 22:46:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 22:46:26 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: kelleye@osd.bsdi.com, Wolfram Schneider , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: WWW.FreeBSD.Org Message-ID: <20001028224626.D2503@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20001028201713.A2234@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001028201713.A2234@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org>; from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org on Sat, Oct 28, 2000 at 08:17:13PM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Kelleye, On Sat, Oct 28, 2000 at 08:17:13PM +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > On 2000-10-27 13:29:29 -0700, kelleye@osd.bsdi.com wrote: > > I've been asked to ask you if you could change a few things on the > > FreeBSD.org website to reflect the BSDi/WC CDRom/Telenet Systems merger. Not a problem. If I haven't got this done by the end of the weekend, grab Jim (or Bill, probably, or John Baldwin for that matter, it's high time he did some work on the docs) and they can do it as well. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 28 16:20: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A5037B479 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 16:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA16377; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 16:20:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 16:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200010282320.QAA16377@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: docs/21762: mailing list archiving or retrieval broken from "\nFrom lines" Reply-To: Nik Clayton Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/21762; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Nik Clayton To: reed@reedmedia.net Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/21762: mailing list archiving or retrieval broken from "\nFrom lines" Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 23:55:10 +0100 On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 04:28:24PM -0700, reed@reedmedia.net wrote: > Here was my test message: > > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1319586+0+current/freebsd-questions > Looks OK to me. What am I missing? N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 28 16:25:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF2637B666; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 16:25:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA18575; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 16:25:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 16:25:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200010282325.QAA18575@freefall.freebsd.org> To: toga@puyo.org, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/21724: man page is wrong in src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/meteor.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: man page is wrong in src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/meteor.4 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Sat Oct 28 16:25:41 PDT 2000 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=21724 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 28 19:28:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.port.ru (mx3.port.ru [194.67.23.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6AF837B479 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 19:28:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sou-56k-059.tpgi.com.au ([203.29.152.59] helo=sasha) by smtp3.port.ru with smtp (Exim 3.14 #30) id 13piD1-000A3K-00 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 05:28:32 +0300 Message-ID: <000a01c0414f$edc052c0$0100a8c0@sasha> From: "Alexandre Tchepourko" To: Subject: question Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 13:28:21 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C041AC.1B5E0220" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C041AC.1B5E0220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello im new to WWW servers and to FreeBSD. 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    ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C041AC.1B5E0220-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 28 19:30:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5798737B479 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 19:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA82713; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 19:30:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 19:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200010290230.TAA82713@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: "Jeremy C. Reed" Subject: Re: docs/21762: mailing list archiving or retrieval broken from "\nFrom lines" Reply-To: "Jeremy C. Reed" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/21762; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Jeremy C. Reed" To: Nik Clayton Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/21762: mailing list archiving or retrieval broken from "\nFrom lines" Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 19:27:13 -0700 (PDT) On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 04:28:24PM -0700, reed@reedmedia.net wrote: > > Here was my test message: > > > > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1319586+0+current/freebsd-questions > > > > Looks OK to me. What am I missing? The archive is missing the rest of my message. This wasn't a one time test -- I noticed this a few times before, then I figured out the problem and then I tested it to verify it. It is not okay. Please read the message at http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1319586+0+archive/2000/freebsd-questions/20001008.freebsd-questions My last line says "And the next line will be blank, followed by "From" with a space after it." But then NOTHING is after it. Also my signature is gone. This was explained in my bug report. If you notice, it has problems with the common unix mailbox message separator "\nFrom ". The email is sent correctly (with the next lines and with my signature), just it appears that the archiving is broken. (As explained in my email and in the bug report # 21762). This bug is not critical. But if someone writes an email that has a blank line and then the next line starts with "From " (followed by a space), then the web-based archived message will not contain the remainder of the email. (I am not sure if the message is still available -- maybe just the getmsg.cgi tool is broken.) This little problem could make it hard for someone to research and utilize some archived messages. Hope this explains this. I'll be glad to help more. Of course, I have not tested this since Oct. 4. I guess I should just find the problem myself. When I have time, I'll search through the cvsweb to find the source to the getmsg.cgi program to see if I can find the issue. But maybe the problem is below or before that -- maybe the problem is with the tool (mailindex 1.0 ?) that archives the message. Jeremy C. Reed http://www.reedmedia.net/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message