From owner-freebsd-emulation Sun Dec 3 5:23:50 2000 From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 3 05:23:47 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from fiinbeck.math.ntnu.no (fiinbeck.math.ntnu.no [129.241.15.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 117DA37B401 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 05:23:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 44831 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2000 13:23:45 -0000 Received: from localhost (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Dec 2000 13:23:45 -0000 To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Linux emulation and memory leaks X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.2 on Emacs 20.6 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) X-URL: http://www.math.ntnu.no/~hanche/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20001203142345O.hanche@math.ntnu.no> Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 14:23:45 +0100 From: Harald Hanche-Olsen X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 29 Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'd like to draw your attention to a problem report I sent in a while back, namele Problem Report kern/22826 "Memory limits have no effect in linux compatibility": http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22826 As it turns out (see the above URL), it is not quite obvious that this has anything to do with linux emulation per se, being more of a problem with the vm code in the freebsd kernel. However, I have discovered a new fact that *may* point to an emulation problem: As I state in that problem report, Acrobat Reader version 4.05 just gobbles loads of memory, typically growing by a couple of megabytes for each page visited, if I select a zoom factor to make the page as wide as the screen. This can go on until the machine runs out of virtual memory, unaffected by rlimit settings. The curious thing is that the same program runs fine on real Linux, never growing beyond 19 MB in one test I ran. This happened with the very same binary, but of course it may be that the problem lies with a version of the runtime libraries in /compat/linux/ on my freebsd machine. Before I invest lots of time and energy into investigating this phenomenon in more detail, has anybody else run into this problem, or have any thoughts on it? - Harald To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Sun Dec 3 10: 1: 1 2000 From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 3 10:00:57 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from west.lustig.com (west.lustig.com [209.157.26.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B12C637B401 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 10:00:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 66635 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2000 18:00:55 -0000 Received: from lustig.ne.mediaone.net (HELO devious.lustig.com) (@24.91.125.166) by west.lustig.com with SMTP; 3 Dec 2000 18:00:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 10356 invoked by uid 1001); 3 Dec 2000 18:00:54 -0000 Message-ID: <20001203180054.10355.qmail@devious.lustig.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach_patches v148.2) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach_patches [i386] (Enhance 2.2p2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148.2.RR) From: Barry Lustig Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 13:00:54 -0500 To: emulation@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: VMware hanging -- Memory deadlock? Reply-To: barry@Lustig.COM X-Organizations: Barry Lustig & Associates, Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a vaio z505le with 192MB running 4.2-STABLE (cvsupped today). I've been trying to get vmware running properly on it. I first configured vmware on the vaio, created a win2k type virtual disk, set ram in the VM to 80M, and copied a happily working win2k virtual disk from another system over the skeleton one that the config wizard created. I'm running the latest port of XFree86 4.0.1. Each time I start vmware the system gets part of the way through the VM boot process and then hangs. The only thing that still responds is the mouse. A top process running in an xterm locks up, as does the getty on the serial console. I can break into ddb from the serial console. I've found that dropping the memory size for the VM down to 64MB works (68MB doesn't). When running the 64MB VM top shows: 70M Active, 34M Inactive, 75M Wired, ~9M Cache, 29M Buf, ~6M Free Does anyone have any suggestions on how to debug this? Thanks, barry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Sun Dec 3 16:42:43 2000 From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 3 16:42:41 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from palrel3.hp.com (palrel3.hp.com [156.153.255.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5834137B400 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 16:42:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from adlmail.cup.hp.com (adlmail.cup.hp.com [15.0.100.30]) by palrel3.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F151C46D for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 16:42:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from cup.hp.com (p1000180.nsr.hp.com [15.109.0.180]) by adlmail.cup.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/8.9.3 SMKit7.02) with ESMTP id QAA03236 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 16:42:40 -0800 (PST) Sender: marcel@cup.hp.com Message-ID: <3A2AE880.1A457326@cup.hp.com> Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 16:42:40 -0800 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: Hewlett-Packard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux emulation and memory leaks References: <20001203142345O.hanche@math.ntnu.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Harald Hanche-Olsen wrote: > > I'd like to draw your attention to a problem report I sent in a while > back, namele Problem Report kern/22826 "Memory limits have no effect > in linux compatibility": > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22826 Note to ML: I investigated the problem and identified that the problem is in ournative mmap(). See PR for details. -- Marcel Moolenaar mail: marcel@cup.hp.com / marcel@FreeBSD.org tel: (408) 447-4222 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Mon Dec 4 2:26:49 2000 From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 4 02:26:47 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from squeek.pdi.com (unknown [209.213.214.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B790C37B400 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 02:26:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by squeek.pdi.com (8.10.2/8.8.8/PDI-RELAY) id eB45gp370283 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 21:42:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from courier-1(0.0.0.0) by squeek via smap (V2.1) id xma070579; Sun, 3 Dec 00 21:42:25 -0800 Received: from kabuki.pdi.com (kabuki [10.11.3.144]) by courier.pdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/PDI-mailhub(internal)) with ESMTP id VAA207025; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 21:44:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mkirk@localhost) by kabuki.pdi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA139855; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 21:44:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 21:44:05 -0800 From: Mark Kirk To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: help on linux_base6.1: libtermcap.so.2: ELF file ABI version invalid. Message-ID: <20001203214404.A143819@pdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i X-Files: The Truth is Out There Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm attempting to get linux_base6.1 working correctly, but with both the Linux realplayer and vmware I get errors related to libtermcap. I've spent a number of hours searching the website/mail archives to no avail, so I'm hoping someone here will be able to help. I am running 4.2-RELEASE for i386. My ports tree is about 3 days old. Note that my system has been upgraded from 3.2 to 3.4 to 4.2 from source. When I first installed linux_base6.1, the install would break when running rpm on libtermcap2.0.8 (i.e. rpm would say it couldn't execute the script). However, I did a "make deinstall"/"make reinstall" and it then installed cleanly (pretty mysterious and I haven't been able to determine the problem). However, when I try to run vmware, the config wizard pops up a dialog that says: Unexpected output from the Wizard: sh: error in loading shared libraries: libtermcap.so.2 Similarly, when I try to run the Linux realplayer: [akemi] /home/mkirk> realplay sh: error in loading shared libraries: libtermcap.so.2: ELF file ABI version invalid. /bin/sh: error in loading shared libraries: libtermcap.so.2: ELF file ABI version invalid. Now, I notice that most of the libraries and binaries in /compat/linux are branded as SVR4 (I expected them to be branded Linux). Also, vmware and realplayer binaries are branded SVR4 as well. [akemi] /compat/linux/lib> brandelf * File 'ld-2.1.2.so' is of brand 'SVR4' (0). File 'ld-linux.so.1' is of brand 'SVR4' (0). File 'ld-linux.so.1.9.5' is of brand 'SVR4' (0). [ and so on... ] I can verify that many or all of the Linux binaries do work: [akemi] /compat/linux/bin> brandelf uname File 'uname' is of brand 'SVR4' (0). [akemi] /compat/linux/bin> ./uname -a Linux akemi 2.2.12 FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #0: Wed Nov 29 19:36:42 PST 2000 mkirk@a i386 unknown Here's the modules loaded: [akemi] /compat/linux/bin> kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 7 0xc0100000 2f3bd8 kernel 2 1 0xc0eea000 6000 linprocfs.ko 3 1 0xc0ef7000 a000 ntfs.ko 4 3 0xc0f48000 11000 linux.ko 5 1 0xc0f6e000 2000 rtc.ko 6 1 0xc0f73000 9000 vmmon_smp.ko 7 1 0xc0f8c000 4000 if_tap.ko I've tried adding /compat/linux/lib to my LD_LIBRARY_PATH with no effect. I've also tried branding /compat/linux/lib/* to type Linux, which broke things such that I couldn't run any linux binaries (even those I branded to Linux). Any help *greatly* appreciated. I really need to be able to run vmware (and other Linux binaries). I never thought I'd hear myself say this, but I am almost frustrated enough to consider giving in and switching to Linux. I don't want it to come to that ;) Feel free to reply to me directly if you would like. kind thanks, mark _________________________________________________________________________ Mark Kirk Pacific Data Images To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Mon Dec 4 12:51:16 2000 From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 4 12:51:14 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from alpo.whistle.com (s206m1.whistle.com [207.76.206.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5678D37B400; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 12:51:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from whistle.com (crab.whistle.com [207.76.205.112]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA55109; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 12:48:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ambrisko@localhost) by whistle.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA03339; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 12:47:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ambrisko) From: Doug Ambrisko Message-Id: <200012042047.MAA03339@whistle.com> Subject: Re: VMware hanging -- Memory deadlock? In-Reply-To: <20001203180054.10355.qmail@devious.lustig.com> from Barry Lustig at "Dec 3, 2000 01:00:54 pm" To: barry@lustig.com Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 12:47:51 -0800 (PST) Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Barry Lustig writes: | I have a vaio z505le with 192MB running 4.2-STABLE (cvsupped today). I've | been trying to get vmware running properly on it. I first configured vmware | on the vaio, created a win2k type virtual disk, set ram in the VM to 80M, | and copied a happily working win2k virtual disk from another system over the | skeleton one that the config wizard created. I'm running the latest port of | XFree86 4.0.1. | | Each time I start vmware the system gets part of the way through the VM | boot process and then hangs. The only thing that still responds is the | mouse. A top process running in an xterm locks up, as does the getty on the | serial console. I can break into ddb from the serial console. I've found | that dropping the memory size for the VM down to 64MB works (68MB doesn't). | When running the 64MB VM top shows: | | 70M Active, 34M Inactive, 75M Wired, ~9M Cache, 29M Buf, ~6M Free | | Does anyone have any suggestions on how to debug this? No, but going back to 4.2 RELEASE kernel fixed it for me. Start from there and move forward until you find out which commit broke it. Doug A. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Mon Dec 4 14:19:31 2000 From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 4 14:19:29 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from palrel1.hp.com (palrel1.hp.com [156.153.255.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F37A37B401 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 14:19:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from adlmail.cup.hp.com (adlmail.cup.hp.com [15.0.100.30]) by palrel1.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381531B5; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 14:19:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from cup.hp.com (gauss.cup.hp.com [15.28.97.152]) by adlmail.cup.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/8.9.3 SMKit7.02) with ESMTP id OAA05963; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 14:19:27 -0800 (PST) Sender: marcel@cup.hp.com Message-ID: <3A2C186F.C559AD55@cup.hp.com> Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 17:19:27 -0500 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: Hewlett-Packard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Kirk Cc: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: help on linux_base6.1: libtermcap.so.2: ELF file ABI version invalid. References: <20001203214404.A143819@pdi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mark Kirk wrote: > > When I first installed linux_base6.1, the install would break when running rpm > on libtermcap2.0.8 (i.e. rpm would say it couldn't execute the script). This means you were installing on top of something else, probably linux_lib. Don't do that. Kill /compat/linux completely before installing linux_base. Upgrades between different linux_base versions are probably less critical, but when you see library problems, try with a clean /compat/linux first. > [akemi] /compat/linux/lib> brandelf * > File 'ld-2.1.2.so' is of brand 'SVR4' (0). This simply means that the ELF file is unbranded. You don't always need to brand ELF files to have FreeBSD do the right thing. Yes, the consequence is that branding information is bogus. The true solution would be if every ABI "vendor" would brand their ELF files. Linux simply doesn't do that... HTH, -- Marcel Moolenaar mail: marcel@cup.hp.com / marcel@FreeBSD.org tel: (408) 447-4222 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Mon Dec 4 14:28: 3 2000 From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 4 14:28:01 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from fiinbeck.math.ntnu.no (fiinbeck.math.ntnu.no [129.241.15.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AAF7237B400 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 14:28:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 91613 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2000 22:21:18 -0000 Received: from localhost (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Dec 2000 22:21:18 -0000 To: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux emulation and memory leaks In-Reply-To: <3A2AE880.1A457326@cup.hp.com> References: <20001203142345O.hanche@math.ntnu.no> <3A2AE880.1A457326@cup.hp.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.2 on Emacs 20.6 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) X-URL: http://www.math.ntnu.no/~hanche/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20001204232118S.hanche@math.ntnu.no> Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 23:21:18 +0100 From: Harald Hanche-Olsen X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 24 Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org + Marcel Moolenaar : | Harald Hanche-Olsen wrote: | > | > I'd like to draw your attention to a problem report I sent in a while | > back, namele Problem Report kern/22826 "Memory limits have no effect | > in linux compatibility": | > | > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22826 | | Note to ML: I investigated the problem and identified that the problem | is in ournative mmap(). See PR for details. Surely, *one* problem is with mmap(), and I appreciate your looking into it. But from my experience (acrobat reader grows like crazy on freebsd, stays very bounded on linux) I suspect that once you've fixed the mmap() bug, acroread will start dying on freebsd while it keeps running on linux. But maybe the best strategy is to wait until mmap() is fixed, and then see what happens to acroread afterwards. Fix one problem before you tackle the next, etc. - Harald To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Wed Dec 6 13:56: 5 2000 From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 6 13:56:04 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from magic.adaptec.com (magic.adaptec.com [208.236.45.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3208B37B400 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:56:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from redfish.adaptec.com (redfish.adaptec.com [162.62.50.11]) by magic.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12513 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from btc.btc.adaptec.com (btc.btc.adaptec.com [162.62.64.10]) by redfish.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18072 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:49:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from btcexc01.btc.adaptec.com (btcexc01 [162.62.147.10]) by btc.btc.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22138 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 14:55:12 -0700 (MST) Received: by btcexc01.btc.adaptec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 14:55:12 -0700 Message-ID: <7C2FD0FC33C3D411BB580000D11ABE9219E440@btcexc01.btc.adaptec.com> From: "Long, Scott" To: "'freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org'" Subject: BSD/OS? Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 14:55:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, How is the BSD/OS ABI support in FreeBSD? I see that there are several versions of Netscape in our ports tree that are BSD/OS binaries, but I just tried to run a simple Hello-world program that was statically compiled on BSD/OS 4.1 and got a segmentation fault (this is on a FBSD 4.2-stable box). Will binaries from only certain versions work? What about the converse; can BSD/OS run FreeBSD binaries? Thanks, Scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Fri Dec 8 3:16:32 2000 From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 8 03:16:30 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from shark.bsis.brain.riken.go.jp (shark.bsis.brain.riken.go.jp [134.160.162.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BFD937B401 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2000 03:16:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.bsis.brain.riken.go.jp [127.0.0.1]) by shark.bsis.brain.riken.go.jp (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eB8BGLU37513 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2000 20:16:21 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from shiro@brain.riken.go.jp) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 20:16:21 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20001208.201621.55429972.shiro@brain.riken.go.jp> To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Linux /dev/ptmx is needed by MATLAB R12 From: Shiro Ikeda X-Mailer: Mew version 1.95b39 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am using MATLAB for Linux on FreeBSD, and got a problem. The latest MATLAB for Linux needs Linux kernel of version 2.2.x and libc.so.6. I installed linux_base6.1 on FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE and cheated the install program of MATLAB. I could install everything, but when I run MATLAB, it gives the following message before opening a window, ??? MATLAB was unable to open the pseudo-tty master device /dev/ptmx. The unix() and ! commands will not work in this MATLAB session. Other commands which depend upon unix() and ! will also fail. Please check with your system administrator and confirm that this device exists with the proper permissions. Finally it opens a window, and I can use MATLAB, but I cannot close the window, and cannot quit but have to kill the process. I am sure latest MATLAB needs /dev/ptmx for managing the tty, but I don't know how to realize it on FreeBSD. If anyone gives me a hint, it helps me a lot. thanks, /)\ Shiro Ikeda o o "Information and Human Activity", PRESTO, JST - Lab. for Mathematical Neuroscience, RIKEN BSI To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message