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Greetings all!

I'm trying to use a pci style 4-ports serial card that can be software
configured to share interrupts (like the AST multiport cards).  I'm running 
this on an HP Brio200 with FreeBSD v4.0.

I know that the crux of the matter has to do with how the kernel sees this
card at boot time.  Interestingly enough, this card will run under linux
after you run their 'setserial' utility.

This is what I've tried so far:

device		sio	## I believe this is all I need for sio in the kernel?

A dmesg shows:
pcib0: <Intel 82810 (i810 GMCH) Host To Hub bridge> on motherboard
pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
pci0: <Intel 82810 (i810 GMCH) SVGA controller> at 1.0 irq 10
pcib1: <Intel 82801AB (ICH0) Hub to PCI bridge> at device 30.0 on pci0
pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib1
pci1: <unknown card> (vendor=0x14d2, dev=0xa003) at 14.0 irq 10
pci1: <unknown card> (vendor=0x14d2, dev=0xa000) at 14.1 irq 10
isab0: <Intel 82801AB (ICH0) PCI to LPC bridge> at device 31.0 on pci0
atapci0: <Intel ICH0 ATA33 controller> port 0x1800-0x180f at device 31.1 on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
pci0: <Intel 82801AB (ICH0) USB controller> at 31.2 irq 11
pci0: <unknown card> (vendor=0x8086, dev=0x2423) at 31.3 irq 9
chip1: <Intel 82801AB (ICH0) AC'97 Audio Controller> port
0x1840-0x187f,0x2000-0x20ff irq 9 at device 31.5 on pci0

Any help (or wild suggestions!) would be appreciated.

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Signalling is easy, use /dev/speaker. You can write whole songs in simple
basic tunes. :-)

It's in use at TCCN in Nijmegen (NL) to signal that the printer servers are
available. I forget what song they use, but I'm sure you can come up with
something.

    Kees Jan

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Fowler [mailto:rjf@cs.rice.edu]
> Sent: vrijdag 28 april 2000 20:42
> To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: [Fwd: someone has an idea ?]
> 
> 
> It's easy if the operator can come in over the net, but if 
> you want a "front-panel
> shutdown" function on a box without keyboard or other obvious 
> I/O devices,
> you'll have to make do with what your hardware has.  If there 
> is a button or switch
> you can use as a sensor, then all you need is a demon 
> monitoring that function.
> This may require hardware and/or software hacking.
> 
> A couple of years ago we were running a small keyboard-less 
> cluster that was usually 
> FreeBSD, but occasionally had to be brought up under Linux.  
> The solution was to
> use the presence absence of a LILO floppy as the control for 
> bringing the 
> system up.  The drill was to put LILO floppies in all the 
> drives (or remove them)
> and force reboots over the net through a script.  Sleazy, but 
> effective.
> 
> If the floppy drive is not being used, you might try the 
> inverse of the floppy trick.
> Write a script that tries to open a file called 
> <obscure_name> on the floppy and halts
> if successful.  Run it under cron with an appropriate 
> interval, or just wrap it
> in sleep loop and start the script when the system boots.  
> Tell the operator to 
> stick the bright red floppy in the drive and wait xx seconds 
> before powering down.
> 
> The tricky thing may be signalling the operator when it 
> really is OK to power down. If
> the box is new enough to shut itself off on a halt, then 
> you're done.  Otherwise,
> you may have to have the kernel beep a couple of times after 
> it's done sync'ing.
> 
> -- Rob
> 
> > 
> > On 28-Apr-00 Philippe Charron wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Im a trying to do a FreeBSD box without any keyboard 
> (this machine will
> > > be a Squid, HTTP and FTP serveur for non specialist 
> person that can't
> > > handle with a Unix system).
> > >
> > > As the user can't shutdown properly the computer, he has 
> to press the
> > > power button to switch off the box.
> > > This leads to problems with fsck and inode lost in the system.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have an idea to solve this problem ?
> > >
> > > Thanx in avance
> > > Philippe
> > >> 
> >
> 
> 
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Subject: Anybody using Epox EP-7KXA Athlon motherboard?
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I've just got a new Athlon machine with an Epox EP-7KXA motherboard.
It comes highly recommended, but I have some severe problems with the
timekeeping: it seems that the BIOS does not allow me to disable APM,
and the 8254 timekeeping goes crazy, running up to 10 times as fast as
real time.  Does anybody else have one of these boards?  Have you seen
the problem?  (How) did you fix it?

If not, does anybody know the incantations to disable the APM during
system startup?  If so, I'll play around with it myself.

I'm attaching the dmesg output in case it's of any use.

Greg

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FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE #0: Mon Mar 20 22:50:22 GMT 2000
    root@monster.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor (751.71-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "AuthenticAMD"  Id = 0x621  Stepping = 1
  Features=0x183f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR>
  AMD Features=0xc0400000<AMIE,DSP,3DNow!>
real memory  = 268369920 (262080K bytes)
avail memory = 256479232 (250468K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc03c0000.
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
md0: Malloc disk
npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcib0: <Host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
pcib2: <PCI to PCI bridge (vendor=1106 device=8391)> at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib2
pci1: <Matrox MGA G400 AGP graphics accelerator> at 0.0
isab0: <VIA 82C686 PCI-ISA bridge> at device 7.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
atapci0: <VIA 82C686 ATA66 controller> port 0xd000-0xd00f at device 7.1 on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
pci0: <VIA 83C572 USB controller> at 7.2 irq 10
chip2: <VIA 82C686 AC97 Audio> port 0xe400-0xe403,0xe000-0xe003,0xdc00-0xdcff irq 5 at device 7.5 on pci0
ahc0: <Adaptec 2940 Pro Ultra SCSI adapter> port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xdb000000-0xdb000fff irq 11 at device 8.0 on pci0
ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs
xl0: <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xec00-0xec7f mem 0xdb001000-0xdb00107f irq 10 at device 11.0 on pci0
xl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:da:cf:17:97
miibus0: <MII bus> on xl0
xlphy0: <3c905C 10/100 internal PHY> on miibus0
xlphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
xl0: supplying EUI64: 00:50:da:ff:fe:cf:17:97
pcib1: <Host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
pci2: <PCI bus> on pcib1
fdc0: direction bit not set
fdc0: cmd 3 failed at out byte 1 of 3
atkbdc0: <keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60-0x6f on isa0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
psm0: <PS/2 Mouse> irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
sc0: <System console> on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200>
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
sio1: type 16550A
ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
ad0: 19574MB <WDC WD205BA> [39770/16/63] at ata0-master using UDMA66
ad2: 19574MB <WDC WD205BA> [39770/16/63] at ata1-master using UDMA33
afd0: 120MB <LS-120 F250 01 UHD Floppy> [963/8/32] at ata1-slave using PIO3
Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
sa0: <SONY SDT-10000 0101> Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device 
sa0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit)

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At 19:22 02.05.00 +0930, you wrote:
>I've just got a new Athlon machine with an Epox EP-7KXA motherboard.
>It comes highly recommended, but I have some severe problems with the
>timekeeping: it seems that the BIOS does not allow me to disable APM,
>and the 8254 timekeeping goes crazy, running up to 10 times as fast as
>real time.  Does anybody else have one of these boards?  Have you seen
>the problem?  (How) did you fix it?
>
Hi!

Have talked to some guys, which also sell this board, and they told me that
they'd first flash the BIOS to the current one, dated 25/4, IIRC.
There were some issues  in the past that were fixed with BIOS upgrades.

They found it very stable, also running some benches a complete weekend to
test stability (even under windows, it survived a whole weekend...)

Regards
Olaf Hoyer
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On Tuesday,  2 May 2000 at 15:01:26 +0200, Olaf Hoyer wrote:
> At 19:22 02.05.00 +0930, you wrote:
>> I've just got a new Athlon machine with an Epox EP-7KXA motherboard.
>> It comes highly recommended, but I have some severe problems with the
>> timekeeping: it seems that the BIOS does not allow me to disable APM,
>> and the 8254 timekeeping goes crazy, running up to 10 times as fast as
>> real time.  Does anybody else have one of these boards?  Have you seen
>> the problem?  (How) did you fix it?
>
> Have talked to some guys, which also sell this board, and they told
> me that they'd first flash the BIOS to the current one, dated 25/4,
> IIRC.  There were some issues in the past that were fixed with BIOS
> upgrades.
>
> They found it very stable, also running some benches a complete
> weekend to test stability (even under windows, it survived a whole
> weekend...)

Yes, but have you tried it under FreeBSD?  I have the BIOS here, but I
can't flash it because it insists on flashing from floppy.  But
looking at the list of fixes, I don't see anything there about APM.
My BIOS is dated 17 April, so there's probably not much difference.

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Hello,

Does anybody have experience with this Epox MB?
http://www.epox.com/html/english/products/motherboard/ep-bxb-s.htm

1 GB Ram
2 Pentium III Slot 1 650 MHz
Matrox Mill G400 360 Ramdac
UW SCSI

I'm planning to run 4.0-RELEASE.

Also, if anybody have experience with FBSD and a Raid(HW) solution for
300 - 500 GB I should be delighted to share his/hers toughts e t c.

It's going to run a Web hotel with *all* fancy stuff...


Regards


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----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
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> On Tuesday,  2 May 2000 at 15:01:26 +0200, Olaf Hoyer wrote:
> > At 19:22 02.05.00 +0930, you wrote:
> >> I've just got a new Athlon machine with an Epox EP-7KXA motherboard.
> >> It comes highly recommended, but I have some severe problems with the
> >> timekeeping: it seems that the BIOS does not allow me to disable APM,
> >> and the 8254 timekeeping goes crazy, running up to 10 times as fast as
> >> real time.  Does anybody else have one of these boards?  Have you seen
> >> the problem?  (How) did you fix it?
> >
> > Have talked to some guys, which also sell this board, and they told
> > me that they'd first flash the BIOS to the current one, dated 25/4,
> > IIRC.  There were some issues in the past that were fixed with BIOS
> > upgrades.
> >
> > They found it very stable, also running some benches a complete
> > weekend to test stability (even under windows, it survived a whole
> > weekend...)
>
> Yes, but have you tried it under FreeBSD?  I have the BIOS here, but I
> can't flash it because it insists on flashing from floppy.  But
> looking at the list of fixes, I don't see anything there about APM.
> My BIOS is dated 17 April, so there's probably not much difference.
>
*snip*

I'm planning to get an Athlon mobo within a week, and that board was on the
list of candidates. The others are the AOpen AK72 and MSI's new board. The
AOpen looks best so far, as the MSI does not support AGP 4x or 133 Mhz.

Anyone got any other recommendations? I'm eyeing the Athlon 700.





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Hi, I was told that IDE CDROM drives need to be slaved to a harddisk inorder
to be detected by FreeBSD. (Some experience installing 3.2 has confirmed
this.)

I'd like to know that if there's a way to add a third CDROM drive without
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Hya,

I've had ATAPI cdroms as secondary master. FreeBSD is just terribly picky
about the jumper settings. There are usually three jumpers, so with 8
reboots you have tried all options.

One of them will work, I am sure, especially with newer cdrom players.

    Kees Jan

PS. You could ditch IDE for SCSI and then you would have no trouble at all.
That's what I did. :-)

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Haikal Saadh [mailto:wyldephyre2@yahoo.com]
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> 
> 
> Hi, I was told that IDE CDROM drives need to be slaved to a 
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> to be detected by FreeBSD. (Some experience installing 3.2 
> has confirmed
> this.)
> 
> I'd like to know that if there's a way to add a third CDROM 
> drive without
> getting an extra harddisk first?
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> I'm planning to get an Athlon mobo within a week, and that 
> board was on the
> list of candidates. The others are the AOpen AK72 and MSI's 
> new board. The
> AOpen looks best so far, as the MSI does not support AGP 4x 
> or 133 Mhz.
> 
> Anyone got any other recommendations? I'm eyeing the Athlon 700.
> 
I was sort'a waiting for the promised big Athlon motherboard test on Tom's
hardware pages, but I am losing my patience, and he's got too many ads for
the amount of text anyway. :-)

Perhaps some (un)happy Athlon owners would care to comment on their setups?
I'd love to have some input before I buy mine.

    Kees Jan

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On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 12:06:51AM +1000, Haikal Saadh wrote:
> Hi, I was told that IDE CDROM drives need to be slaved to a harddisk inorder
> to be detected by FreeBSD. (Some experience installing 3.2 has confirmed
> this.)

Negative, under 4.0...  I have two hard drives, one master, one slave on
ata2; the CDROM is master on ata1, and FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE/RELEASE
recognizes it just fine.


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> 
> I'm planning to get an Athlon mobo within a week, and that board was on the
> list of candidates. The others are the AOpen AK72 and MSI's new board. The
> AOpen looks best so far, as the MSI does not support AGP 4x or 133 Mhz.
> 
> Anyone got any other recommendations? I'm eyeing the Athlon 700.

Asus K7V, modulo the quirks mentioned here last week.  Unless jkh is 
having new problems, I'd consider this the #1 candidate.
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From owner-freebsd-hardware  Wed May  3  9:54:16 2000
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Hi all,

I finally installed an (internal) IDE HP Colorado 5 GB tape drive on
my FreeBSD 3.1 (device wst0). It worked fine since december (I use
it with tar).

But, since a few days, it stops working in the middle of a tar. If I
try to access to the tape again (with tar or mt -f /dev/rwst0 rewind
or anything else), it *freezes* my system (at least, XFree86 but the
system answers to a ping). After a while (certainly a timeout), these
messages appear on the console :

atapi1.1: controller not ready for cmd
wst0: Sense media type failed

And then FreeBSD (but not the tape of course) works well again.

Since I've got a CDROM drive on controller 1, after the HP Colorado
fails, the CDROM drive is also out of reach (mount /cdrom even gives a
freeze) :
atapi1.0: invalid command phase, ireason=0x0, status=40<ready>, error=0
atapi1.1: controller not ready for cmd
wst_done: wst0: ERROR code=2, status=0, error=0
atapi1.1: controller not ready for cmd

The only way to use my CDROM again is to reboot.

The tape driver is well detected at boot time :
wdc1: unit 1 (atapi): <HP      COLORADO 5GB/2.060002>, removable, intr,
	dma, iordis
wst0: Drive empty, reverse, eformat, qfa, ecc, 512b
wst0: Max speed=0Kb/s, Transfer limit=64 blocks, Buffer size=1024 blocks

So, I looked at the archive of freebsd-questions and freebsd-hardware,
but found nothing about that problem.
I didn't try the tape under Windows (no time to stop that critical
machine), so I can't say if the problem comes from the tape or the
wst0 device driver (or even the wdc driver ???).

Any help would be appreciated (reply by mail if possible).

Thanks.

Loic, Toulouse(France)


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Hello Haikal,

From personal experience, I can highly recommend the Asus K7V. I have
been
using this board since early March, when it was first imported here.
So far I have not encountered any problems, the board runs stable with
FreeBSD and BeOS (just remember to setup your BIOS properly).

Kind regards,
--jh


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On Thursday,  4 May 2000 at  0:00:25 +1000, Haikal Saadh wrote:
> On  Wednesday, May 03, 2000 9:18 AM, Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> wrote:
>> On Tuesday,  2 May 2000 at 15:01:26 +0200, Olaf Hoyer wrote:
>>> At 19:22 02.05.00 +0930, you wrote:
>>>> I've just got a new Athlon machine with an Epox EP-7KXA motherboard.
>>>> It comes highly recommended, but I have some severe problems with the
>>>> timekeeping: it seems that the BIOS does not allow me to disable APM,
>>>> and the 8254 timekeeping goes crazy, running up to 10 times as fast as
>>>> real time.  Does anybody else have one of these boards?  Have you seen
>>>> the problem?  (How) did you fix it?
>>>
>>> Have talked to some guys, which also sell this board, and they told
>>> me that they'd first flash the BIOS to the current one, dated 25/4,
>>> IIRC.  There were some issues in the past that were fixed with BIOS
>>> upgrades.
>>>
>>> They found it very stable, also running some benches a complete
>>> weekend to test stability (even under windows, it survived a whole
>>> weekend...)
>>
>> Yes, but have you tried it under FreeBSD?  I have the BIOS here, but I
>> can't flash it because it insists on flashing from floppy.  But
>> looking at the list of fixes, I don't see anything there about APM.
>> My BIOS is dated 17 April, so there's probably not much difference.
>>
> *snip*
>
> I'm planning to get an Athlon mobo within a week, and that board was
> on the list of candidates. The others are the AOpen AK72 and MSI's
> new board. The AOpen looks best so far, as the MSI does not support
> AGP 4x or 133 Mhz.
>
> Anyone got any other recommendations? I'm eyeing the Athlon 700.

Well, I've solved the problems I was having by installing 5.0-CURRENT
(which I had planned to do anyway).  It's running fine now.  It's
possible it's fixed in 4-STABLE as well.

The German magazine c't did a comparison of the Asus K7M, the MSI K7
Pro and the Epox 7KXA in the 5/2000 issue (28 February).  They found
the Epox (based on the VIA KX133 chipset) better than the other two
(based on the AMD chipset).  I don't know the AOpen, and it's not
clear if you're talking about the same MSI board or not.

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Gaaah....From what I've seen floating around, it seems to be either the K7V
or the 7KXA...there seem to be surprisinglu few reviews about the
AK72....guess I'll wait for another week or so..the requisition has not bee
approved yet anyway :).

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> Hello Haikal,
>
> From personal experience, I can highly recommend the Asus K7V. I have
> been
> using this board since early March, when it was first imported here.
> So far I have not encountered any problems, the board runs stable with
> FreeBSD and BeOS (just remember to setup your BIOS properly).
>
> Kind regards,
> --jh
>
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On Thu 2000-05-04 (00:06), Haikal Saadh wrote:
> Hi, I was told that IDE CDROM drives need to be slaved to a harddisk inorder
> to be detected by FreeBSD. (Some experience installing 3.2 has confirmed
> this.)

No.  IDE buses have to have a master device.  You can have CDROM drives
as masters.  You can't have CDROM drives as slave if there isn't a
master, though.  You can't have a hard drive as slave if there isn't a
master either.

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Another EP-7KXA report:

My system consists of an Athlon 750 on a 7KXA, with 256MB of Kingston
PC133 ECC SDRAM (ECC fully supported).  On the Athlon I have a big
three fan Peltier cooler, and the 7KXA's layout is such that this is
no problem at all.

The 7KXA also has an ISA slot, which might come in handy.

Now, the interesting part, peripherals and stability under FreeBSD.
PCI bus currently has an Adaptec 39160 (Yamaha CRW6416 and Toshiba
SD-W1101 on one of its buses, the other one currently unoccupied,
awaiting migration of the Western Digital Enterprise on my other main
system) and a 3com 3C905B.  G400-TV is on the AGP.  On-board ATA/66,
one bus has an IBM DPTA372050 (20.5GB 7200RPM ATA/66) and the other
has a Panasonic LS-120 drive.

I was able to boot and install from the FreeBSD 4.0-REL CD image, over
the Adaptec interface and Yamaha drive, using the February-vintage
BIOS that shipped with the mainboard.  I was also able to boot (DOS,
for BIOS flash) off the LS-120 drive with that version of the BIOS,
and every version since then.  1.44MB and 120MB diskettes in the
LS-120 are both mountable under FreeBSD.

Currently, BIOS is the 2000-Apr-25 version, settings are failsafe
default except 133MHz memory, change of boot device order, and a few
other minor tweaks.  OS is still FreeBSD 4.0-REL; been running a local
build since I started trying to get sound to work (more on this
momentarily).

Stability is 100%.  If you munge the BIOS CMOS settings so that power
management kicks in, your machine will go haywire ("microuptime() went
backwards" errors), so by all means avoid that (trivial to avoid).

The only problem area I've run into is sound.  Even though onboard
AC97/Soundblaster sound is detected by an appropriately configured
kernel, and appears to software to be running properly (mixer works,
etc.), there is neither actual audio output nor apparent line input.
It's just deathly silent at the output port - apparently electrically
shut down.  Either the sound subsystem on my mainboard is
munged/shorted/otherwise inoperative, or FreeBSD doesn't wake it up
properly at boot time.

I couple weeks ago I bought a Soundblaster Live, to try to get some
sound working, and succeeded, but I never got adequate performance out
of it.  The only way I could keep it from glitching was by shutting
down the NIC and avoiding SCSI activity.  Every time one of the other
cards grabbed the bus, the Live would glitch.

I've returned that piece o' junk and ordered an RME card, which is
professional buffered audio with full interrupt sharing.


The rest of my system: Boomrack 4U400X case, Mouse Systems 3 button
optical mouse (PS/2), and PFU America Happy Hacking Lite PS/2 keyboard
(Sun Type 3 layout).  The Peltier cooler is from www.coolerstar.com.
The CPU runs at a stable 91-93 fahrenheit with ambient temp of 73
degrees inside the case and 68-70 degrees in the room.


-Daniel Pouzzner


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I am trying to determine whether or not there is
currently  any facility for using an external parallel
ATAPI cdrw drive under FreeBSD.  I have, as of yet,
not been able to find any information on using these
devices  under FreeBSD. The specific  drive I am
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I've recently upgraded a 486DX/100 host (yes, it's not very powerful,
but it has sufficient CPU for what it does) from an ISA-based NE2000
clone to an Intel PCI NIC. (It uses a '557 chip.) The machine was
upgraded from 16K to 24K of RAM at the same time and kernel memory 
was expanded (MAXUSERS went from 64 to 96). Since the Intel card and 
its driver are said to be quite efficient, and there were more
mbufs to go around, I was amazed to find out that a backup of the 
machine (it's done by piping a dump to gzip to FTP over a secure 
connection) slowed down to nearly half the speed it ran at before.

Any ideas regarding why this might happen? The machine is running
2.2.8 with fixes and patches, about to upgrade to 3.5 if it proves
to be as stable as we hope.

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> upgraded from 16K to 24K of RAM at the same time and kernel memory 

24K?!?!  Wow!  How'd you get the kernel that small?  :)

I ran into a lot of PCI 486 boards that had "issues".  Keep in mind that
the PCI spec was fairly incomplete and open to the manufacturer's
interpretation as to how it should work.  I have a PCI 486 running as a
little internal web server that bogged down incredibly when I put a
Diamond PCI video card in it -- went back to the old ISA Trident 8900, and
things were back to normal.

There may be some BIOS config settings in there that may help - bus
priority/speed, IRQ designations, etc...  Depends on the board.

I'll bet you a shiny new penny (you pay for postage) that a cheap 75MHz
Pentium board would reverse the problem.  My fxp cards blow the socks off
the NE2K's that I replaced...

--mike




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At 11:29 PM 5/5/2000, Mike Nowlin wrote:
   

> > upgraded from 16K to 24K of RAM at the same time and kernel memory 
>
>24K?!?!  Wow!  How'd you get the kernel that small?  :)

Oh, I just cut out the nonessential parts, such as syscons,
ffs -- unimportant stuff like that.

I meant 24M, of course. I just drove 3.5 hours and my blears are a
little eyery. ;-)

>I ran into a lot of PCI 486 boards that had "issues".  Keep in mind that
>the PCI spec was fairly incomplete and open to the manufacturer's
>interpretation as to how it should work.  I have a PCI 486 running as a
>little internal web server that bogged down incredibly when I put a
>Diamond PCI video card in it -- went back to the old ISA Trident 8900, and
>things were back to normal.

This one happens to have a Diamond PCI video card in it. It actually
works pretty well. Hmmm. I wonder if the problem is with having more
than one PCI card in the system? Since the system is text-based
I could put in an 8-bit Hercules card and a monochrome/TTL monitor.

>There may be some BIOS config settings in there that may help - bus
>priority/speed, IRQ designations, etc...  Depends on the board.

Well, we gave that socket IRQ 5 and thought that this would make
it pretty fast. The chipset is the Intel Saturn (Anyone know if 
there are issues with this one?) and the board is a Zeos Rattler. 
Lots of integrated peripherals (including optional SCSI) and very 
reliable. It's worked flawlessly for years. I wonder why the
problems now.

>I'll bet you a shiny new penny (you pay for postage) that a cheap 75MHz
>Pentium board would reverse the problem.  My fxp cards blow the socks off
>the NE2K's that I replaced...

I was thinking of doing a motherboard upgrade. Trouble is, the case is
an AT tower, and AT (rather than ATX) motherboards can be difficult
to come by nowadays. 

--Brett


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an into a lot of PCI 486 boards that had "issues".  Keep in mind that
>>the PCI spec was fairly incomplete and open to the manufacturer's
>>interpretation as to how it should work.  I have a PCI 486 running as a
>>little internal web server that bogged down incredibly when I put a
>>Diamond PCI video card in it -- went back to the old ISA Trident 8900, and
>>things were back to normal.
>
>This one happens to have a Diamond PCI video card in it. It actually
>works pretty well. Hmmm. I wonder if the problem is with having more
>than one PCI card in the system? Since the system is text-based
>I could put in an 8-bit Hercules card and a monochrome/TTL monitor.
>
>>There may be some BIOS config settings in there that may help - bus
>>priority/speed, IRQ designations, etc...  Depends on the board.
>
>Well, we gave that socket IRQ 5 and thought that this would make
>it pretty fast. The chipset is the Intel Saturn (Anyone know if 
>there are issues with this one?) and the board is a Zeos Rattler. 
>Lots of integrated peripherals (including optional SCSI) and very 
>reliable. It's worked flawlessly for years. I wonder why the
>problems now.

Hi!

Well, on those old boards the IRQ 5 had to be designated via jumpers or
BIOS entries to a specific port. I once did some routing of the IRQ 5 to
ISA only (because my old soundblaster was there), and wondered why my
system (had an old ASUS PCI/I SP3 in, the predecessor to the SP3G) won't
boot. There I discovered with diag software that my vid card (Miro 8S)
actually also took the IRQ5, and was hardwired to that....

Because its only PCI 1.3 spec, I assume, there are some issues in general...
Basically, you have to configure it properly with the IRQ routing, also
take in mind that most vid cards also want one.

Regards
Olaf Hoyer
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Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 10:40:11 -0600
To: Olaf Hoyer <ohoyer@fbwi.fh-wilhelmshaven.de>
From: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
Subject: Re: Why would fxp be slower than ed?
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At 05:20 AM 5/6/2000, Olaf Hoyer wrote:

>Hi!
>
>Well, on those old boards the IRQ 5 had to be designated via jumpers or
>BIOS entries to a specific port. I once did some routing of the IRQ 5 to
>ISA only (because my old soundblaster was there), and wondered why my
>system (had an old ASUS PCI/I SP3 in, the predecessor to the SP3G) won't
>boot. There I discovered with diag software that my vid card (Miro 8S)
>actually also took the IRQ5, and was hardwired to that....

We were using IRQ 5 for the NE2000 clone before we went to the fxp. So,
I know that the IRQ is available and that nothing is hardwired to it.
I initially avoided IRQ 15, because I was concerned that it might be
hardwired to the second IDE interface, but I may try it now.

>Because its only PCI 1.3 spec, I assume, there are some issues in general...
>Basically, you have to configure it properly with the IRQ routing, 

The BIOS is Award, which has a very clear user interface for this. 

>also
>take in mind that most vid cards also want one.

We're letting the video card grab IRQ 9 for its exclusive use.

--Brett


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