From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 30 9:14:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.wizard.com (shell.wizard.com [209.170.216.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A1F815131 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:14:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danielj@wizard.com) Received: from localhost (danielj@localhost) by shell.wizard.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA64880 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:14:30 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: shell.wizard.com: danielj owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:14:30 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Jacobs To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. In-Reply-To: <200001141347.NAA03501@post.mail.areti.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org After some rough starts, allot communications seems to have gotten it right with their hardward. http://www.allot.com. Another option that I know several people are happy with it the Packeteer. On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Nicholas J. Dear wrote: > On 14 Jan 00, at 8:45, Intranova Networking Group wrote: > > > Either you can use a hardware solution (Ethernet switch) or you can use a > > software solution, which includes the dummynet bandwidth > > limiting/throttling feature in the FreeBSD kernel. Look at the 'ipfw' man > > page for more information on configuration issues and such... > > Definitely hardware solution. Do you recommend a particular product? > Preferably Cisco or 3com? > > N. > -- > Nicholas J. Dear > Mail: ndear@areti.net Tel: +44 (0)20-8402-4041 > Areti Internet Ltd., http://www.areti.co.uk/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > Daniel Jacobs | @wizard.com - Las Vegas Providers of Internet Services (702) 317-2001 | http://www.wizard.com/ | danielj@wizard.com "In art and dream, may you proceed with abandon. In life, may you proceed with balance and stealth." - Patti Smith To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 30 9:15:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.wizard.com (shell.wizard.com [209.170.216.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E8014EE2 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:15:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danielj@wizard.com) Received: from localhost (danielj@localhost) by shell.wizard.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA64887; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:15:45 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: shell.wizard.com: danielj owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:15:45 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Jacobs To: Guy Silliman Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org They have been out of business for several months now, as far as I can tell. I still have one of their boxes in production, though. On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Guy Silliman wrote: > I have used Structured Internetworking's IPath. It is a nice devide for > handling exactly what you are looking to do... I was using it in an > identical situation. Works great and the price tag is less than the > packeteer I think.... > > Guy > > On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Nicholas J. Dear wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > We're about to start doing some co-location, and we will need to restrict the > > bandwidth to each machine. I'm assuming we need some sort of switch with > > bandwidth throttling capabilities? > > > > We'd need to throttle from 32K, or 64K upwards, in 64K increments. > > > > Could anyone recommend a particular product, or how they do the job? > > TIA. > > N. > > -- > > Nicholas J. Dear > > Mail: ndear@areti.net Tel: +44 (0)20-8402-4041 > > Areti Internet Ltd., http://www.areti.co.uk/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > Daniel Jacobs | @wizard.com - Las Vegas Providers of Internet Services (702) 317-2001 | http://www.wizard.com/ | danielj@wizard.com "In art and dream, may you proceed with abandon. In life, may you proceed with balance and stealth." - Patti Smith To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 30 10: 4:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95AD314A2A for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 10:04:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA35370; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 19:04:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200001301804.TAA35370@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. In-Reply-To: from Daniel Jacobs at "Jan 30, 2000 09:14:30 am" To: Daniel Jacobs Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 19:04:53 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org this seems a thread back from the past, but in any case what do you think is > On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Nicholas J. Dear wrote: > > > On 14 Jan 00, at 8:45, Intranova Networking Group wrote: > > > > > Either you can use a hardware solution (Ethernet switch) or you can use a > > > software solution, which includes the dummynet bandwidth ... > > Definitely hardware solution. Do you recommend a particular product? > > Preferably Cisco or 3com? what makes you think that a switch which is capable of doing bandwidth limiting is more a 'hardware solution' than a PicoBSD bridge running ipfw+dummynet, especially at the very low bandwidths you are interested in ? For sure, in a switch theere is dedicated hardware in charge of doing the packet forwarding, but the scheduling is a typical software/firmware task and only boxes which need to do WFQ at 100Mbit/s or so really need to put the scheduler on silicon. then of course you can always claim "nobody has ever been fired for buying IBM..." cheers luigi -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- Luigi RIZZO, luigi@iet.unipi.it . Dip. di Ing. dell'Informazione http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . Universita` di Pisa TEL/FAX: +39-050-568.533/522 . via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) Mobile +39-347-0373137 -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 30 20:44: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from noop.colo.erols.net (noop.colo.erols.net [207.96.1.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE9314BF6; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:43:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@in-addr.com) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=in-addr.com) by noop.colo.erols.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12F8gI-000LOy-00; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:43:18 -0500 To: Steve Ames Cc: Sheldon Hearn , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Gary Palmer Subject: Re: SMPT AUTH In-Reply-To: Message from Steve Ames of "Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:41:28 EST." <20000128114128.A46858@virtual-voodoo.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:43:18 -0500 Message-ID: <82270.949293798@in-addr.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Steve Ames wrote in message ID <20000128114128.A46858@virtual-voodoo.com>: > > Also added hooks for SMTP AUTH and PAM support, disabled by default > > for now. > > SMTP AUTH is a topic thats becoming pretty important to me. Its my > understanding that sendmail 8.10 will support it. Anyone know what > other mail servers (MTA) (other than sendmail 8.10 and apparently exim) > will/do support SMTP AUTH? What about client support? What's out there? Look at http://www.demo.ru/homerus/mail/SASL_ClientRef.html for client support details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 31 10:40:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sblake.comcen.com.au (sblake.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3A414BDB for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 10:40:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aunty@sblake.comcen.com.au) Received: (from aunty@localhost) by sblake.comcen.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA48959 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 05:42:33 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from aunty) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 05:42:33 +1100 From: aunty To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: web access with unix password Message-ID: <20000201054233.A47517@comcen.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I need to set up a new web site for users to do things like checking their usage stats and changing their password. There are server security problems with using the real password file or a derived .htaccess, but it's a while since I've been down this track. I'd like to present all the options with pros and cons before making the "right" decisions. Can anyone suggest where I might find the best up to date summary of the security issues and alternative approaches? -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 31 11: 6:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from unix.megared.net.mx (megamail.megared.com.mx [207.249.162.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E45114E60; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 11:06:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ales@megared.net.mx) Received: from ales (ales.megared.net.mx [207.249.163.251]) by unix.megared.net.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA73779; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:01:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ales@megared.net.mx) Message-ID: <058e01bf6c1d$be204320$fba3f9cf@megared.net.mx> From: "Alejandro Ramirez" To: "Steve Ames" , "Sheldon Hearn" Cc: References: <200001281557.HAA55849@freefall.freebsd.org> <20000128114128.A46858@virtual-voodoo.com> Subject: RE: SMPT AUTH Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:02:38 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Well, Netscape & Outlook both have support fot smtp authentication. Greetings Ales ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Ames To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 10:41 AM Subject: SMPT AUTH > > Also added hooks for SMTP AUTH and PAM support, disabled by default > > for now. > > SMTP AUTH is a topic thats becoming pretty important to me. Its my > understanding that sendmail 8.10 will support it. Anyone know what > other mail servers (MTA) (other than sendmail 8.10 and apparently exim) > will/do support SMTP AUTH? What about client support? What's out there? > > -Steve > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 31 11:35:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cliff.i-plus.net (cliff.i-plus.net [209.100.20.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEBEA14FED for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 11:35:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from troy@picus.com) Received: from ARCADIA (arcadia.i-plus.net [209.100.20.198]) by cliff.i-plus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA20992 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:35:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Troy Settle" To: Subject: RE: web access with unix password Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:36:06 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 In-Reply-To: <20000201054233.A47517@comcen.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Couple solutions... For changing passwords, check the archives for URLs I posted to a couple scripts to do just that (one in perl, the other in PHP) For verifying users before giving them their stats 'n stuff, I have a scriptlet that validates the username/password from the pop server. In the past, I had a seperate script that validated against a radius server. Hope this helps, Troy ** -----Original Message----- ** From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG ** [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of aunty ** Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 1:43 PM ** To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org ** Subject: web access with unix password ** ** ** I need to set up a new web site for users to do things ** like checking ** their usage stats and changing their password. ** ** There are server security problems with using the real ** password file or ** a derived .htaccess, but it's a while since I've been down ** this track. ** I'd like to present all the options with pros and cons ** before making ** the "right" decisions. ** ** Can anyone suggest where I might find the best up to date ** summary of the ** security issues and alternative approaches? ** ** -- ** ** Regards, ** -*Sue*- ** ** ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ** with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 31 11:55:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from super-g.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2656314BF4 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 11:55:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: by super-g.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E8060B6AE; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:55:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D5CE5B6A2; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:55:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:55:04 -0500 (EST) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: Hugh Blandford Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Centralized auth shell/pop/dial In-Reply-To: <002701bf695d$4e9dc260$088ea8c0@island.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, I saw that thread, but it was simply a "I think you can do that" response. Looking over the Kerberos FAQ I don't see any mention of this. Still trying to get the "big picture" of just how Kerberos works. If anyone is doing such a thing, I'd be very interested in the details... I've turned up zilch on the mailing list searches so far. Thanks, --- Charles Sprickman spork@super-g.com --- "...there's no idea that's so good you can't ruin it with a few well-placed idiots." On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Hugh Blandford wrote: > Hi Charles, > > there was some suggestion that you could integrate NIS and Kerberos but I > haven't been able to find any info on anyone who has done it. I would love > to hear from people who have done this, especially if they got in running on > sub-T1 WANs. > > Regards, > > Hugh > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: spork > To: > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 11:15 AM > Subject: Centralized auth shell/pop/dial > > > > Hello, > > > > I know this is something of a recurring question on this list, but here it > > comes again, the one that all ISPs that reach a certain size they realize > > they must come here and ask... > > > > What options exist to scale user management beyond a few boxes? I never > > touched NIS, but it seems interesting. However, I refuse to run any > > rpc-based service unless I really need to. We currently have users spread > > out over a number of boxes; ftp/shell/www, pop/radius, pop for dedicated > > line users. It's getting to be a mess, I want to control/create these > > accounts on one machine. > > > > If someone like Matt (from BEST) could chime in on what their scheme was > > as they grew to multiple shell/pop servers, I'd love to hear it. > > > > I'm open to stashing all the auth info in a database, one big password > > file, anything. I'm also comfortable ssh-ing files around from box to > > box... > > > > What is the status of things that could make NIS more secure like IPSec? > > Where's LDAP going? Any news about 4.0 that could make distributed auth. > > easier? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Charles > > > > --- > > Charles Sprickman > > spork@super-g.com > > --- > > "...there's no idea that's so good you can't > > ruin it with a few well-placed idiots." > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 31 12:19:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from boston.eaznet.com (boston.eaznet.com [216.19.20.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2324F14D2A for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:19:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eddie@eaznet.com) Received: from eaznet.com (admin.eaznet.com [216.19.20.16]) by boston.eaznet.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA14791 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:18:04 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3895EEBD.DA1B3220@eaznet.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:21:17 -0700 From: Eddie - EAZNet Internet Services Reply-To: eddie@eaznet.com Organization: EAZNet Internet Services, Safford, AZ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD ISP Mailing List Subject: Named Problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have just installed FreeBSD 3.4-release. Everything seems to be working properly, but I keep getting the following messages. Nmaed seems to be working properly, I just would like to make sure I don't have something set up incorrectly... Jan 31 10:53:45 amber named[289]: deleting interface [216.19.20.5].53 Jan 31 10:53:45 amber named[289]: bind(dfd=20, [216.19.21.225].53): Permission denied Jan 31 10:53:45 amber named[289]: deleting interface [216.19.21.225].53 Jan 31 10:53:45 amber named[289]: bind(dfd=20, [127.0.0.1].53): Permission denied Jan 31 10:53:45 amber named[289]: deleting interface [127.0.0.1].53 Jan 31 10:53:45 amber named[289]: not listening on any interfaces I've checked permissions on everything I could think of and it all looks ok. The web pages that operate at those addresses also seem to work ok. Any ideas? -- Eddie Fry eddie@eaznet.com EAZNet Internet Services 220 West 7th Street Safford, AZ 85546 (520) 348-0292 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 31 12:26:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3102714E07 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:26:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jesper@skriver.dk) Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9235C3E3C; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 21:26:45 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 21:26:45 +0100 From: Jesper Skriver To: Eddie - EAZNet Internet Services Cc: FreeBSD ISP Mailing List Subject: Re: Named Problem Message-ID: <20000131212645.A69386@skriver.dk> References: <3895EEBD.DA1B3220@eaznet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <3895EEBD.DA1B3220@eaznet.com>; from eddie@eaznet.com on Mon, Jan 31, 2000 at 01:21:17PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jan 31, 2000 at 01:21:17PM -0700, Eddie - EAZNet Internet Services wrote: > I have just installed FreeBSD 3.4-release. Everything seems to be > working properly, but I keep getting the following messages. Nmaed > seems to be working properly, I just would like to make sure I don't > have something set up incorrectly... > > Jan 31 10:53:45 amber named[289]: deleting interface [216.19.20.5].53 > Jan 31 10:53:45 amber named[289]: bind(dfd=20, [216.19.21.225].53): > Permission denied > Jan 31 10:53:45 amber named[289]: deleting interface [216.19.21.225].53 > Jan 31 10:53:45 amber named[289]: bind(dfd=20, [127.0.0.1].53): > Permission denied > Jan 31 10:53:45 amber named[289]: deleting interface [127.0.0.1].53 > Jan 31 10:53:45 amber named[289]: not listening on any interfaces > > I've checked permissions on everything I could think of and it all looks > ok. The web pages that operate at those addresses also seem to work ok. > > Any ideas? Seeing the same here - "solved" by moving from "ndc restart" to "ndc reconfig ; ndc reload" /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE# 5456 Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) Private: Geek @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 31 13: 7:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from altair.origenbio.com (altair.origenbio.com [216.30.62.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E47A14CFD for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:07:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dmartin@origen.com) Received: from origen.com (dubhe.origen [192.168.0.5]) by altair.origenbio.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04506; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:05:11 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dmartin@origen.com) Message-ID: <3895F8B4.3F4357C@origen.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:03:48 -0600 From: Richard Martin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: eddie@eaznet.com Cc: FreeBSD ISP Mailing List Subject: Re: Named Problem References: <3895EEBD.DA1B3220@eaznet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Eddie, Sounds like you are not running named as root (which is a good thing) and/or your permissions are not set right or named.conf is wrong. First check thru your named.conf to make sure it is pointing to the db files in the right spot. You might also have someone else look at it in case of brain burn-thru resulting from staring at the screen for extended periods. DNS files in particular are that way. Check for who is running named, and make certain that this user (user 'bind' is probably already set up) has read and write privileges in the named db directory + all files therein Also 'bind' needs write permission on the named pid. If you are not running as root, you'll probably need to add options { pid-file "/var/named/named.pid" }; into the named.conf (bind V8) file. Create the /var/named directory and chown it to the named owner (bind or whoever) It is a very good idea not to run named as root, esp. with the recently publicized compromise in some versions of bind. If someone compromises named, then they only get to be 'bind', not root. Eddie - EAZNet Internet Services wrote: > > I have just installed FreeBSD 3.4-release. Everything seems to be > working properly, but I keep getting the following messages. Nmaed > seems to be working properly, I just would like to make sure I don't > have something set up incorrectly... > > Jan 31 10:53:45 amber named[289]: deleting interface [216.19.20.5].53 > Jan 31 10:53:45 amber named[289]: bind(dfd=20, [216.19.21.225].53): > Permission denied > Jan 31 10:53:45 amber named[289]: deleting interface [216.19.21.225].53 > Jan 31 10:53:45 amber named[289]: bind(dfd=20, [127.0.0.1].53): > Permission denied > Jan 31 10:53:45 amber named[289]: deleting interface [127.0.0.1].53 > Jan 31 10:53:45 amber named[289]: not listening on any interfaces > > I've checked permissions on everything I could think of and it all looks > ok. The web pages that operate at those addresses also seem to work ok. > > Any ideas? > > -- > Eddie Fry > eddie@eaznet.com > EAZNet Internet Services > 220 West 7th Street > Safford, AZ 85546 > (520) 348-0292 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Richard Martin dmartin@origen.com OriGen Biomedical Tel: +1 512 474 7278 2525 Hartford Rd. Fax: +1 512 708 8522 Austin, TX 78703 http://www.cardiacdocs.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 31 14:52:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sblake.comcen.com.au (sblake.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1564E14EAF for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:52:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aunty@sblake.comcen.com.au) Received: (from aunty@localhost) by sblake.comcen.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA49931; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 09:54:22 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from aunty) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 09:54:22 +1100 From: aunty To: Troy Settle Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: web access with unix password Message-ID: <20000201095422.A49735@comcen.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: Troy Settle , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000201054233.A47517@comcen.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jan 31, 2000 at 02:36:06PM -0500, Troy Settle wrote: > > Couple solutions... > > For changing passwords, check the archives for URLs I posted to a > couple scripts to do just that (one in perl, the other in PHP) > > For verifying users before giving them their stats 'n stuff, I have a > scriptlet that validates the username/password from the pop server. > In the past, I had a seperate script that validated against a radius > server. > > Hope this helps, Yes it does, thanks. I'd also like to find some written summary of the pleasures and pitfalls, from a security perspective and in an ISP context, if one exists. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 31 14:57:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from portjeff.net (mail.portjeff.net [207.198.250.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36C614BD5; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:57:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paul@nerdlabs.com) Received: from nerdlabs.com [24.129.126.78] by portjeff.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id AD2411021A; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 17:57:56 +0000 Message-ID: <3896111C.A329E470@nerdlabs.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 17:47:56 -0500 From: Paul Dlug X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-admin@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: SLIP/PPP over direct serial link Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------0CE0982B457802AFDF6EBA27" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------0CE0982B457802AFDF6EBA27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Perhaps someone can help me out with this one, I've been playing with it since early this morning without much progress. Here is my problem: I have two laptops, one running linux, one running freebsd. My friend has succeeded in totally messing up the freebsd laptop and would like me to reinstall freebsd "properly" on it. So as to avoid losing his data I'd like to copy it over to the other linux laptop, the fbsd laptop doesn't have an ethernet card so I thought a serial link might be the best option. I have a nice rs232 cable setup between them and the freebsd machine setup to recieve incoming slip connections (freebsd's slip server seemed eaiser to work with than linux). I cannot figure out how to establish a link between the two...both have docs that talk about doing this over a modem, but over a direct cable? Can this be done? if so..what am I missing?? -- Paul Dlug Unix/Web Programmer paul@nerdlabs.com --------------0CE0982B457802AFDF6EBA27 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Perhaps someone can help me out with this one, I've been playing with it since early this morning without much progress. Here is my problem: I have two laptops, one running linux, one running freebsd. My friend has succeeded in totally messing up the freebsd laptop and would like me to reinstall freebsd "properly" on it. So as to avoid losing his data I'd like to copy it over to the other linux laptop, the fbsd laptop doesn't have an ethernet card so I thought a serial link might be the best option. I have a nice rs232 cable setup between them and the freebsd machine setup to recieve incoming slip connections (freebsd's slip server seemed eaiser to work with than linux). I cannot figure out how to establish a link between the two...both have docs that talk about doing this over a modem, but over a direct cable? Can this be done? if so..what am I missing??
  
-- 
Paul Dlug
Unix/Web Programmer
paul@nerdlabs.com
--------------0CE0982B457802AFDF6EBA27-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 31 15:41:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.bna.bellsouth.net (mail2.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB42152D4 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:41:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.com) Received: from siteplus.com (host-209-214-40-122.cha.bellsouth.net [209.214.40.122]) by mail2.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id SAA17157 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:30:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38961DAC.BBCCC5BC@siteplus.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:41:32 -0500 From: Jim Weeks X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i486) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Silly makeworld question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have never seen this on the list and was wondering how others of you do this. I have co-located severs and at present I CVSUP files on a regular basis and ever so often run make buildworld from a script remotely. Afterwards I go to the co-location, shutdown to single user and make installworld along with the usual procedures. Of course this is a hassle. I do a lot of other things by just shutting down services other than ssh and do the work without being stepped on by users. Has anyone tried this with rebuilding the system? Thanks in advance, Jim Weeks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 0:18:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dsl.MexComUSA.net (adsl-63-194-214-46.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.194.214.46]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8353D4B; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 00:17:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from MexComUSA.net (local-1.local.net [192.168.1.1]) by dsl.MexComUSA.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA18650; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:24:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@MexComUSA.net) Message-ID: <389651DA.741C3608@MexComUSA.net> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:24:10 -0800 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates, S.C. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Dlug Cc: freebsd-admin@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SLIP/PPP over direct serial link References: <3896111C.A329E470@nerdlabs.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------10F7BA2F8F06BFE1538D5488" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------10F7BA2F8F06BFE1538D5488 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul Dlug wrote: > Perhaps someone can help me out with this one, I've been playing with > it since early this morning without much progress. Here is my problem: > I have two laptops, one running linux, one running freebsd. My friend > has succeeded in totally messing up the freebsd laptop and would like > me to reinstall freebsd "properly" on it. So as to avoid losing his > data I'd like to copy it over to the other linux laptop, the fbsd > laptop doesn't have an ethernet card so I thought a serial link might > be the best option. I have a nice rs232 cable setup between them and > the freebsd machine setup to recieve incoming slip connections > (freebsd's slip server seemed eaiser to work with than linux). I > cannot figure out how to establish a link between the two...both have > docs that talk about doing this over a modem, but over a direct cable? > Can this be done? if so..what am I missing?? > > > -- > Paul Dlug > Unix/Web Programmer > paul@nerdlabs.com > First of all, are you using a null-modem cable? (For example: Pins 2 & 3 - TX/RX crossed on RS232) If you have enabled a getty process on one of the ports, you should be able to login to that machine with any terminal program. As embarrassing as it my be, I use cu -l /dev/cuaa1 -s 9600 or something similar. If that all works then you should be able to connect with ppp or slip. IMHO. ed --------------10F7BA2F8F06BFE1538D5488 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul Dlug wrote:
Perhaps someone can help me out with this one, I've been playing with it since early this morning without much progress. Here is my problem: I have two laptops, one running linux, one running freebsd. My friend has succeeded in totally messing up the freebsd laptop and would like me to reinstall freebsd "properly" on it. So as to avoid losing his data I'd like to copy it over to the other linux laptop, the fbsd laptop doesn't have an ethernet card so I thought a serial link might be the best option. I have a nice rs232 cable setup between them and the freebsd machine setup to recieve incoming slip connections (freebsd's slip server seemed eaiser to work with than linux). I cannot figure out how to establish a link between the two...both have docs that talk about doing this over a modem, but over a direct cable? Can this be done? if so..what am I missing??
  
-- 
Paul Dlug
Unix/Web Programmer
paul@nerdlabs.com
First of all, are you using a null-modem cable?  (For example: Pins 2 & 3 - TX/RX crossed on RS232)  If you have enabled a getty process on one of the ports, you should be able to login to that machine with any terminal program.  As embarrassing as it my be, I use cu -l /dev/cuaa1 -s 9600 or something similar.  If that all works then you should be able to connect with ppp or slip.  IMHO.

ed --------------10F7BA2F8F06BFE1538D5488-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 0:38: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ducky.nz.freebsd.org (chilled.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7D03D5B for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 00:38:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from wocker (wocker.int.nz.freebsd.org [192.168.0.99]) by ducky.nz.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA82428; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 21:37:49 +1300 (NZDT) Message-Id: <200002010837.VAA82428@ducky.nz.freebsd.org> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 21:37:49 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: secure connection from DSL to DSL users Reply-To: dan@freebsddiary.org Cc: dan@freebsddiary.org X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, I'm trying to find a fast, cheap, and secure way to connect together multiple locations which have DSL connections. For starters, let's assume three offices. I've been told about skip, but from what I can see, it requires X. Which is strange. Why put X on a gateway? Has anyone succeeded in implementing skip without using X? If so, how? Any other suggestions for the suggested connection? -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited [I'm looking for more work] The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.freebsddiary.org/ NZ FreeBSD User Group - http://www.nzfug.nz.freebsd.org/ The Racing System - http://www.racingsystem.com/ unix @ home - http://www.unixathome.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 1:13:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from stumpy.dannyland.org (stumpy.dannyland.org [209.157.133.194]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310043D7F for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 01:13:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by stumpy.dannyland.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E624A3CF1; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 20:17:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 20:17:40 -0800 From: dannyman To: Jason Portwood Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS and the ISP Message-ID: <20000131201740.A279@stumpy.dannyland.org> References: <6381A6A8826BD31199500090279CAFBA0927A7@FOGHORN> <6381A6A8826BD31199500090279CAFBA089684@FOGHORN> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <6381A6A8826BD31199500090279CAFBA089684@FOGHORN>; from Jason Portwood on Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 11:10:43AM -0500 X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu X-URL: http://www.dannyland.org/~dannyman/ Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 11:10:43AM -0500, Jason Portwood wrote: > > With all the questions floating around about FreeBSD, RAID and NFS one > question > keeps popping up in my head. > > NFS file locking. How is that being worked around or has it been > added/fixed? Or is > it really a big issue? Last place I worked did qmail/Maildir off of NetApps. Maildir has no file locking issues. Those shell users who wanted mbox were s'posed to do a conditional redirect in their .qmail file so they'd only do mail on one machine. At least under FreeBSD, local file locking on an NFS mount will work ... -d -- come.to/dannyman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 4:15:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cliff.i-plus.net (cliff.i-plus.net [209.100.20.42]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEEF93DB8 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 04:15:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from abyss (abyss.dashit.net [209.100.22.250]) by cliff.i-plus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA14327 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 07:15:33 -0500 (EST) From: "Troy Settle" To: Subject: RE: Silly makeworld question Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 07:12:23 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <38961DAC.BBCCC5BC@siteplus.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Perhaps I'm a little over-confident, but when it's time to upgrade, I typically just do it. None of the servers in my noc have monitors or keyboards. All work is done "remote". This means that I can't cut down to single usermode. Typically, I build, install, make new kernel, install, reboot, pray that everything works. In 3 years of doing this, I've not had any problems. (knock on wood) YMMV, -Troy > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jim Weeks > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 18:42 > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Silly makeworld question > > > Hi, > > I have never seen this on the list and was wondering how others of you > do this. > > I have co-located severs and at present I CVSUP files on a regular basis > and ever so often run make buildworld from a script remotely. > Afterwards I go to the co-location, shutdown to single user and make > installworld along with the usual procedures. Of course this is a > hassle. > > I do a lot of other things by just shutting down services other than ssh > and do the work without being stepped on by users. Has anyone tried > this with rebuilding the system? > > Thanks in advance, > > Jim Weeks > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 4:48:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from goofy.intcom.net (goofy.intcom.net [207.17.172.51]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834163DBF for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 04:48:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from jason ([207.17.172.228]) by goofy.intcom.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA1C00; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 07:47:47 -0500 From: "Jason Portwood" To: "'Jim Weeks'" , Subject: RE: Silly makeworld question Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 07:45:45 -0500 Message-ID: <6381A6A8826BD31199500090279CAFBA089712@FOGHORN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <6381A6A8826BD31199500090279CAFBA09285E@FOGHORN> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I have co-located severs and at present I CVSUP files on a > regular basis > and ever so often run make buildworld from a script remotely. > Afterwards I go to the co-location, shutdown to single user and make > installworld along with the usual procedures. Of course this is a > hassle. > An option would be to use serial consoles on your machines. Then designate one of the boxes a serial console server and put in a multiport board. Or you could always just pair two machines together over the com ports. That gives you nearly all the power of being right in front of the box. Shutdown to single user - do the upgrade - bring it back multi-user and done. It also has other advantages. For example if the machine crashes and there wasn't a major problem you can usually send the console a break and reboot the box remotely. No driving in at 3am! Just remember that you will want to have the console set to not be trusted anymore. No need to have one machine being comprised take the others down. Jason Portwood - jason@iac.net Systems Administrator - Strategic/Internet Access Cincinnati Sales and Tech Support - 513-860-9052 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 6:15: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mout0.freenet.de (mout0.freenet.de [194.97.50.131]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28A73DE7 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 06:14:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from [62.104.201.2] (helo=mx1.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12Fe4m-0004nq-00; Tue, 01 Feb 2000 15:14:40 +0100 Received: from [213.6.227.238] (helo=Magelan.Leidinger.net) by mx1.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12Fe4k-0005wv-00; Tue, 01 Feb 2000 15:14:39 +0100 Received: from Leidinger.net (netchild@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Magelan.Leidinger.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01844; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 13:32:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from netchild@Leidinger.net) Message-Id: <200002011232.NAA01844@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 13:32:05 +0100 (CET) From: Alexander Leidinger Subject: Re: Silly makeworld question To: jim@siteplus.com Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <38961DAC.BBCCC5BC@siteplus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 31 Jan, Jim Weeks wrote: > I have co-located severs and at present I CVSUP files on a regular basis > and ever so often run make buildworld from a script remotely. What do you mean with "on a regular basis", cron(8)? If yes, I recommend to change this to "Wow, xxx (which is important for me) has changed, I do a buildworld now." (just read cvs-all or look what cvsup updates). > Afterwards I go to the co-location, shutdown to single user and make > installworld along with the usual procedures. Of course this is a > hassle. > > I do a lot of other things by just shutting down services other than ssh > and do the work without being stepped on by users. Has anyone tried > this with rebuilding the system? If you really shut down any service (except ssh) and nobody works on the system: go for it (I'm doing installworlds in multi-user-mode since 2 years, if nobody except me is logged in and no service is enabled, nothing bad happens to the system). Bye, Alexander. -- Pauli's exclusive, Heisenberg's uncertain, and Schroedinger just waves. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander+Home @ Leidinger.net Key fingerprint = 7423 F3E6 3A7E B334 A9CC B10A 1F5F 130A A638 6E7E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 7:20:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sco.COM (scol.london.sco.COM [150.126.1.48]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8CC073E03 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 07:20:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from severn.london.sco.COM(150.126.20.2), claiming to be "severn.sco.com" via SMTP by scol.london.sco.COM, id smtpdBAAa000Zd; Tue Feb 1 15:18:01 2000 Received: from ip-150126020177.london.sco.com by severn.sco.com id aa08554; 1 Feb 100 15:17 GMT Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000201151312.01d4ddb0@severn.london.sco.com> X-Sender: aris@severn.london.sco.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 15:17:21 +0000 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Aris Stathakis Subject: Best OpenSource online shopping package? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Can anyone reccommend a good opensource online shopping package - preferably written in perl or PHP3. There are lots listed on Freshmeat.net - but which is the most professional and most stable - or am I better off going commercial? Thanks, Aris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 7:32: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from calumet.infoteam.com (calumet.infoteam.com [207.246.83.3]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD2CE3DF5 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 07:32:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kmartin@localhost) by calumet.infoteam.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA14745 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 10:31:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kmartin) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 10:31:52 -0500 From: Kenn Martin To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Best OpenSource online shopping package? Message-ID: <20000201103151.B14591@infoteam.com> References: <4.2.0.58.20000201151312.01d4ddb0@severn.london.sco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000201151312.01d4ddb0@severn.london.sco.com>; from aris@sco.COM on Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 03:17:21PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 03:17:21PM +0000, Aris Stathakis wrote: > Hi, > > Can anyone reccommend a good opensource online shopping package - > preferably written in perl or PHP3. > > There are lots listed on Freshmeat.net - but which is the most professional > and most stable - or am I better off going commercial? Try MiniVend (GPL) at http://minivend.com kenn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 7:48:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (ftp.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.106]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9538B3E1E for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 07:48:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (tetron02.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.106]) by tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02909; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 09:51:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from zeus@tetronsoftware.com) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 09:51:57 -0600 (CST) From: Gene Harris To: Aris Stathakis Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Best OpenSource online shopping package? In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000201151312.01d4ddb0@severn.london.sco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I noticed on the freebsdmall web site last night that they are using an "open source" shopping system. You might want to check out their web site. If it is working for walnut creek folks, at least you know the software works on freebsd. :-) http://www.wccdrom.com *==============================================* *Gene Harris http://www.tetronsoftware.com* *FreeBSD Novice * *All ORBS.org SMTP connections are denied! * *==============================================* On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Aris Stathakis wrote: > Hi, > > Can anyone reccommend a good opensource online shopping package - > preferably written in perl or PHP3. > > There are lots listed on Freshmeat.net - but which is the most professional > and most stable - or am I better off going commercial? > > Thanks, > > Aris > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 8:25: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cutter.wantabe.com (cutter.wantabe.com [209.16.8.8]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 680B43E44 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 08:24:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from cutter.wantabe.com (cutter.wantabe.com [209.16.8.8]) by cutter.wantabe.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA34026; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 10:24:30 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 10:24:30 -0600 (CST) From: "Jeffrey J. Libman" To: Gene Harris Cc: Aris Stathakis , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Best OpenSource online shopping package? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org that is OpenCart...which looks very good. however: other than how to install the software (barely) there are like ZERO docs on how to implement and use this. i have been studying /researching open source shopping packages, and fishCart seems the best of all i have been able to find....it uses php3 and mysql, and is easily configurable and customaizable. just my $.02....ymmv. cheers, jeff -- | |\ +------------------------------+ Jeffrey J. Libman, ops. mgr. | \ | Wantabe Internet Services | Wantabe, Inc. |__\ +------------------------------+ jeffrl@wantabe.com <-----|------> | access web cgi ftp news mail | (281) 493-0718 __,.-=\'`^`'~=-../__,.-= +------------------------------+ On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Gene Harris wrote: > I noticed on the freebsdmall web site last night that they > are using an "open source" shopping system. You might want > to check out their web site. If it is working for walnut > creek folks, at least you know the software works on > freebsd. :-) http://www.wccdrom.com > > *==============================================* > *Gene Harris http://www.tetronsoftware.com* > *FreeBSD Novice * > *All ORBS.org SMTP connections are denied! * > *==============================================* > > On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Aris Stathakis wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Can anyone reccommend a good opensource online shopping package - > > preferably written in perl or PHP3. > > > > There are lots listed on Freshmeat.net - but which is the most professional > > and most stable - or am I better off going commercial? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Aris > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 8:27:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cutter.wantabe.com (cutter.wantabe.com [209.16.8.8]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7353E16 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 08:27:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from cutter.wantabe.com (cutter.wantabe.com [209.16.8.8]) by cutter.wantabe.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA34044; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 10:27:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 10:27:12 -0600 (CST) From: "Jeffrey J. Libman" To: Kenn Martin Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Best OpenSource online shopping package? In-Reply-To: <20000201103151.B14591@infoteam.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i personally don't like minivend...it behaves as advertized...but: why run a daemon to handle this, when i already have apache/php/mysql/mod_perl running? i object to running a separate daemon for what is ostensibly cgi. cheers, jeff -- | |\ +------------------------------+ Jeffrey J. Libman, ops. mgr. | \ | Wantabe Internet Services | Wantabe, Inc. |__\ +------------------------------+ jeffrl@wantabe.com <-----|------> | access web cgi ftp news mail | (281) 493-0718 __,.-=\'`^`'~=-../__,.-= +------------------------------+ On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Kenn Martin wrote: > On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 03:17:21PM +0000, Aris Stathakis wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Can anyone reccommend a good opensource online shopping package - > > preferably written in perl or PHP3. > > > > There are lots listed on Freshmeat.net - but which is the most professional > > and most stable - or am I better off going commercial? > > Try MiniVend (GPL) at http://minivend.com > > kenn > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 8:45:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shemp.palomine.net (shemp.palomine.net [205.198.88.200]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A9F943EB6 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 08:43:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 20545 invoked by uid 1000); 1 Feb 2000 16:43:29 -0000 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:43:29 -0500 From: Chris Johnson To: Dan Langille Cc: security@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: secure connection from DSL to DSL users Message-ID: <20000201114329.A20524@palomine.net> References: <200002010837.VAA82428@ducky.nz.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <200002010837.VAA82428@ducky.nz.freebsd.org>; from Dan Langille on Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 09:37:49PM +1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 09:37:49PM +1300, Dan Langille wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm trying to find a fast, cheap, and secure way to connect together > multiple locations which have DSL connections. For starters, let's > assume three offices. I've been told about skip, but from what I can > see, it requires X. Which is strange. Why put X on a gateway? > > Has anyone succeeded in implementing skip without using X? If so, > how? > > Any other suggestions for the suggested connection? Try pipsecd. It's simple to set up and it works very well. /usr/ports/net/pipsecd Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 8:49:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.96.75]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A8693E76 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 08:48:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from thehousleys.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA75902; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:48:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38970E49.48F33D7E@thehousleys.net> Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 11:48:09 -0500 From: "James E. Housley" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jeffrey J. Libman" Cc: Gene Harris , Aris Stathakis , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Best OpenSource online shopping package? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Jeffrey J. Libman" wrote: > fishCart seems the best of all i have been able to find....it uses php3 http://www.fishcart.org -- "The box said 'Requires Windows 95, NT, or better,' so I installed FreeBSD" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 9: 3:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C6523E9D for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 09:03:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA01868; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:02:44 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-93.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.93) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma001862; Tue Feb 1 11:02:41 2000 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20000201105045.02bea4f0@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 10:50:45 -0600 To: dan@freebsddiary.org From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: secure connection from DSL to DSL users Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200002010837.VAA82428@ducky.nz.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 09:37 PM 2/1/00 +1300, Dan Langille wrote: >Hi folks, > >I'm trying to find a fast, cheap, and secure way to connect together >multiple locations which have DSL connections. For starters, let's >assume three offices. I've been told about skip, but from what I can >see, it requires X. Which is strange. Why put X on a gateway? > >Has anyone succeeded in implementing skip without using X? If so, >how? Just install the libs, which should work (it does for other X dependant ports). I'd check then if skip is compiled static and can work without the libs. Then you don't even need the X-libs on the systems. Anyone check if the package version works *or* are packages built on a non-X system. Don't recall if this was ever discussed. >Any other suggestions for the suggested connection? Most commonly suggested are IPSEC and pipsecd. YMMV Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve '86 Yamaha MaxiumX (not FBSD powered) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 13:36: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (dynamic-87.max4-du-ws.dialnetwork.pavilion.co.uk [212.74.9.215]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FD83F40 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 13:36:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA88926; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 21:35:48 GMT (envelope-from brian@lan.awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA00451; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 19:44:07 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200002011944.TAA00451@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Jim Weeks Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" , brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: Silly makeworld question In-Reply-To: Message from Jim Weeks of "Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:41:32 EST." <38961DAC.BBCCC5BC@siteplus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 19:44:07 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi, > > I have never seen this on the list and was wondering how others of you > do this. > > I have co-located severs and at present I CVSUP files on a regular basis > and ever so often run make buildworld from a script remotely. > Afterwards I go to the co-location, shutdown to single user and make > installworld along with the usual procedures. Of course this is a > hassle. > > I do a lot of other things by just shutting down services other than ssh > and do the work without being stepped on by users. Has anyone tried > this with rebuilding the system? > > Thanks in advance, > > Jim Weeks An installworld on a live system has never failed me (although occasionally something will fail as /usr/lib gets changed). I'd advise you stick with -stable if you can't be there to dig the box out of any problems that might occur. -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 14:50:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from calumet.infoteam.com (calumet.infoteam.com [207.246.83.3]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A211C3F9C for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:50:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kmartin@localhost) by calumet.infoteam.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21260 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:50:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kmartin) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:50:18 -0500 From: Kenn Martin To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: controlling local boot sequence Message-ID: <20000201175018.A21189@infoteam.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Looking for some tips on controlling local startup sequences when using MySQL. I imagine that other ISPs have similar configurations. FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE machines, scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d (some created by /usr/ports/* and some myself). Script names end in .sh, are executable, and are named starting with numbers so as to attempt to control sequencing. The problem we are experiencing is that at boot time, MySQL is being loaded but other packages which depend on MySQL, such as Apache and ICRADIUS, often fail. These packages are probably starting before MySQL finishes its initialization. I know the /etc/periodic files are named with a numbering scheme so I tried that in /usr/local/etc/rc.d without any consistent success. Packages that fail to start during the boot process can be started manually using these exact same scripts. It appears that I can merge the multiple scripts into one master script, but that doesn't exactly seem like the proper way to handle the problem. How do others handle these type of dependencies? kenn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 15:50:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from outlier.axl.net (outlier.axl.net [216.66.11.20]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 781553FAE for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 15:50:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 25031 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2000 23:49:58 -0000 Received: from ws-01.matthennigus.lightningdsl.net (HELO sinister) (216.66.30.66) by outlier.axl.net with SMTP; 1 Feb 2000 23:49:58 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Matthew B. Henniges" To: "Kenn Martin" , Subject: RE: controlling local boot sequence Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 18:52:21 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20000201175018.A21189@infoteam.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well you could take the simple route and put a "sleep 10" in the mysql.sh shell script or you could add a loop at the end that check wether the mysql (mysqladmin status?)server had come up yet, and if not slept for a bit and tried again, until the mysql server came up. Matthew B. Henniges Axl.net Communications http://www.axl.net (203) 552-1714 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Kenn Martin > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 5:50 PM > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: controlling local boot sequence > > > Looking for some tips on controlling local startup sequences when > using MySQL. I imagine that other ISPs have similar configurations. > > FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE machines, scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d (some > created by /usr/ports/* and some myself). Script names end in .sh, > are executable, and are named starting with numbers so as to > attempt to control sequencing. > > The problem we are experiencing is that at boot time, MySQL is being > loaded but other packages which depend on MySQL, such as Apache and > ICRADIUS, often fail. These packages are probably starting before MySQL > finishes its initialization. I know the /etc/periodic files are named > with a numbering scheme so I tried that in /usr/local/etc/rc.d without > any consistent success. Packages that fail to start during the boot > process can be started manually using these exact same scripts. > > It appears that I can merge the multiple scripts into one master script, > but that doesn't exactly seem like the proper way to handle the problem. > > How do others handle these type of dependencies? > > kenn > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 16:11:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from seidata.com (mail.seidata.com [208.10.211.10]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AEA43E71 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:11:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (pboehmer@localhost) by seidata.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA21146; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 19:12:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 19:12:09 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Boehmer To: Kenn Martin Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: controlling local boot sequence In-Reply-To: <20000201175018.A21189@infoteam.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Kenn, We noticed that the scripts in rc.d are started in alpa-numeric order, so when we run into dependency problems we'll rename scripts like 1_program.sh or A_program.sh 2_program.sh or B_program.sh 3_program.sh or C_program.sh and so on. This was our solution, take it with a grain of salt. Paul Boehmer Systems Administrator SEI Data, Inc. pboehmer@seidata.com On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Kenn Martin wrote: > Looking for some tips on controlling local startup sequences when > using MySQL. I imagine that other ISPs have similar configurations. > > FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE machines, scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d (some > created by /usr/ports/* and some myself). Script names end in .sh, > are executable, and are named starting with numbers so as to > attempt to control sequencing. > > The problem we are experiencing is that at boot time, MySQL is being > loaded but other packages which depend on MySQL, such as Apache and > ICRADIUS, often fail. These packages are probably starting before MySQL > finishes its initialization. I know the /etc/periodic files are named > with a numbering scheme so I tried that in /usr/local/etc/rc.d without > any consistent success. Packages that fail to start during the boot > process can be started manually using these exact same scripts. > > It appears that I can merge the multiple scripts into one master script, > but that doesn't exactly seem like the proper way to handle the problem. > > How do others handle these type of dependencies? > > kenn > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 16:16: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.bna.bellsouth.net (mail1.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.13]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC3D3F87 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:16:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from veager (host-216-78-3-9.jan.bellsouth.net [216.78.3.9]) by mail1.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with SMTP id TAA01017; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 19:15:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003c01bf6d12$a858e420$09034ed8@siteplus.net> From: "Jim Weeks" To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: References: <3.0.3.32.20000201105045.02bea4f0@207.227.119.2> Subject: Re: secure connection from DSL to DSL users Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 19:15:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I know this does not answer the question at hand, but DSL is something I have just began to investigate. The local phone company offers it, but only with Widows support. Can any one steer me toward a FreeBSD solution. I don't expect the phone company to be much help other than getting the hook up. Thanks, Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 16:50:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from flashmail.com (flash1.flashmail.com [207.173.216.240]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 11DA63F9F for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:50:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from sna ([206.135.117.22]) by flashmail.com ; Tue, 01 Feb 2000 16:53:33 -0800 Message-ID: <001101bf6d17$8be52970$a52410ac@sierrahealth.com> From: "Mark Holloway" To: Subject: O/T: Foundry Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:50:47 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01BF6CD4.7CAD4520" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BF6CD4.7CAD4520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone here use Foundry switches in your ISP service? How do you = like them? I'm migrating away from 3Com and I'm looking at Foundry, = Cisco, and Extreme. For something a little more on topic, Foundry does = have some nice server load balancing features..so if you're running = FreeBSD based server farms, I guess it would be a nice add-on! Thanks, Mark ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BF6CD4.7CAD4520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Does anyone here use Foundry switches = in your ISP=20 service? How do you like them? I'm migrating away from 3Com = and I'm=20 looking at Foundry, Cisco, and Extreme.  For something a little = more on=20 topic, Foundry does have some nice server load balancing features..so if = you're=20 running FreeBSD based server farms, I guess it would be a nice=20 add-on!
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BF6CD4.7CAD4520-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 17:27:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.numachi.com (numachi.numachi.com [198.175.254.2]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 053393FD2 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:27:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7235 invoked by uid 1001); 2 Feb 2000 00:49:32 -0000 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 19:49:32 -0500 From: Brian Reichert To: Kenn Martin Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: controlling local boot sequence Message-ID: <20000201194931.B3152@numachi.com> References: <20000201175018.A21189@infoteam.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre4i In-Reply-To: <20000201175018.A21189@infoteam.com>; from kmartin@infoteam.com on Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 05:50:18PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 05:50:18PM -0500, Kenn Martin wrote: > Looking for some tips on controlling local startup sequences when > using MySQL. I imagine that other ISPs have similar configurations. > > FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE machines, scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d (some > created by /usr/ports/* and some myself). Script names end in .sh, > are executable, and are named starting with numbers so as to > attempt to control sequencing. > > The problem we are experiencing is that at boot time, MySQL is being > loaded but other packages which depend on MySQL, such as Apache and > ICRADIUS, often fail. These packages are probably starting before MySQL > finishes its initialization. I'm evoling away from this startup method, for the very reason you describe. I've got a wad of startup scripts, that, among other things, use lsof(8) to note when the application has opened a specific file. Take the timing right out of the question. Chucking in a 'sleep 10' or the like doesn't scale... -- Brian 'you Bastard' Reichert reichert@numachi.com 37 Crystal Ave. #303 Daytime number: (781) 899-7484 x704 Derry NH 03038-1713 USA Intel architecture: the left-hand path To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 17:40:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from vinyl.sentex.ca (vinyl.sentex.ca [209.112.4.14]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD4B3D70 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:40:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite-atm.sentex.ca [209.112.4.1]) by vinyl.sentex.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA96301; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 20:40:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp.simianscience.com (ospf-mdt.sentex.net [205.211.164.81]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA20341; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 20:40:04 -0500 (EST) From: mike@sentex.net (Mike Tancsa) To: jim@siteplus.com ("Jim Weeks") Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: secure connection from DSL to DSL users Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 01:38:53 GMT Message-ID: <38978a3f.422059028@mail.sentex.net> References: <3.0.3.32.20000201105045.02bea4f0@207.227.119.2> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1 Feb 2000 19:16:39 -0500, in sentex.lists.freebsd.isp you wrote: >I know this does not answer the question at hand, but DSL is something I >have just began to investigate. The local phone company offers it, but only >with Widows support. Can any one steer me toward a FreeBSD solution. I >don't expect the phone company to be much help other than getting the hook >up. A lot of xDSL offerings these days use PPPoE (PPP over Ethernet). If thats the case, you can use FreeBSD. Check to see how Windows95 is setup. If its not some totally propriatory system (which is unlikely), it will most likely work. You wont get 'support' from your telco, but then again, in a lot of cases its not necessary. ---Mike Mike Tancsa (mdtancsa@sentex.net) Sentex Communications Corp, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada "Given enough time, 100 monkeys on 100 routers could setup a national IP network." (KDW2) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 17:59:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from calumet.infoteam.com (calumet.infoteam.com [207.246.83.3]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159723FEB for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:59:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kmartin@localhost) by calumet.infoteam.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA23348 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 20:58:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kmartin) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 20:58:56 -0500 From: Kenn Martin To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: controlling local boot sequence Message-ID: <20000201205856.A23264@infoteam.com> References: <20000201175018.A21189@infoteam.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from matt@axl.net on Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 06:52:21PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 06:52:21PM -0500, Matthew B. Henniges wrote: > Well you could take the simple route and put a "sleep 10" in the mysql.sh > shell script That did work when we tried it, but it doesn't feel reliable. > or you could add a loop at the end that check wether the mysql (mysqladmin > status?)server had come up yet, and if not slept for a bit and tried again, > until the mysql server came up. This sounds better ... I will put it for the next reboot, whenever that will be ;-) I will also try it on a non-production server. > Matthew B. Henniges > Axl.net Communications > http://www.axl.net > (203) 552-1714 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Kenn Martin > > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 5:50 PM > > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: controlling local boot sequence > > > > > > Looking for some tips on controlling local startup sequences when > > using MySQL. I imagine that other ISPs have similar configurations. > > > > FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE machines, scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d (some > > created by /usr/ports/* and some myself). Script names end in .sh, > > are executable, and are named starting with numbers so as to > > attempt to control sequencing. > > > > The problem we are experiencing is that at boot time, MySQL is being > > loaded but other packages which depend on MySQL, such as Apache and > > ICRADIUS, often fail. These packages are probably starting before MySQL > > finishes its initialization. I know the /etc/periodic files are named > > with a numbering scheme so I tried that in /usr/local/etc/rc.d without > > any consistent success. Packages that fail to start during the boot > > process can be started manually using these exact same scripts. > > > > It appears that I can merge the multiple scripts into one master script, > > but that doesn't exactly seem like the proper way to handle the problem. > > > > How do others handle these type of dependencies? kenn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 18: 7:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from calumet.infoteam.com (calumet.infoteam.com [207.246.83.3]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 398EB3FF1 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 18:07:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kmartin@localhost) by calumet.infoteam.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23429 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 21:07:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kmartin) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 21:07:37 -0500 From: Kenn Martin To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: controlling local boot sequence Message-ID: <20000201210737.B23264@infoteam.com> References: <20000201175018.A21189@infoteam.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from pboehmer@seidata.com on Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 07:12:09PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 07:12:09PM -0500, Paul Boehmer wrote: > Kenn, > > We noticed that the scripts in rc.d are started in alpa-numeric order, so > when we run into dependency problems we'll rename scripts like > > 1_program.sh or A_program.sh > 2_program.sh or B_program.sh > 3_program.sh or C_program.sh > > and so on. This was our solution, take it with a grain of salt. That is what we have today (see below, "named starting with ..."). It made it somewhat more reliable, but it seems that the number of databases, or some such factor, affects the MySQL startup which might be forked. > Paul Boehmer > Systems Administrator > SEI Data, Inc. > pboehmer@seidata.com > > > On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Kenn Martin wrote: > > > Looking for some tips on controlling local startup sequences when > > using MySQL. I imagine that other ISPs have similar configurations. > > > > FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE machines, scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d (some > > created by /usr/ports/* and some myself). Script names end in .sh, > > are executable, and are named starting with numbers so as to > > attempt to control sequencing. > > > > The problem we are experiencing is that at boot time, MySQL is being > > loaded but other packages which depend on MySQL, such as Apache and > > ICRADIUS, often fail. These packages are probably starting before MySQL > > finishes its initialization. I know the /etc/periodic files are named > > with a numbering scheme so I tried that in /usr/local/etc/rc.d without > > any consistent success. Packages that fail to start during the boot > > process can be started manually using these exact same scripts. > > > > It appears that I can merge the multiple scripts into one master script, > > but that doesn't exactly seem like the proper way to handle the problem. > > > > How do others handle these type of dependencies? kenn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 18:19:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail-out.visi.com (kauket.visi.com [209.98.98.22]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4643FF6 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 18:19:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from isis.visi.com (isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by mail-out.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3CB838D9; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 20:19:42 -0600 (CST) Received: (from sdk@localhost) by isis.visi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA12751; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 20:19:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 20:19:42 -0600 From: Stephen To: Jim Weeks Cc: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: secure connection from DSL to DSL users Message-ID: <20000201201942.A12591@visi.com> References: <3.0.3.32.20000201105045.02bea4f0@207.227.119.2> <003c01bf6d12$a858e420$09034ed8@siteplus.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.1i In-Reply-To: <003c01bf6d12$a858e420$09034ed8@siteplus.net>; from Jim Weeks on Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 07:15:43PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 07:15:43PM -0500, Jim Weeks wrote: > I know this does not answer the question at hand, but DSL is something I > have just began to investigate. The local phone company offers it, but only > with Widows support. Can any one steer me toward a FreeBSD solution. I > don't expect the phone company to be much help other than getting the hook > up. > My xDSL service (PPPoA) was packaged with a Cisco 675 router (formally SpeedRunner). It provides an ethernet interface to my PC, so any FreeBSD supported ethernet card and a crossover cable will work. sk -- sdk@yuck.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 19:31:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from calumet.infoteam.com (calumet.infoteam.com [207.246.83.3]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC9D4074 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 19:31:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kmartin@localhost) by calumet.infoteam.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA24330 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 22:31:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kmartin) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 22:31:15 -0500 From: Kenn Martin To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: controlling local boot sequence Message-ID: <20000201223115.A24239@infoteam.com> References: <20000201175018.A21189@infoteam.com> <20000201194931.B3152@numachi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000201194931.B3152@numachi.com>; from reichert@numachi.com on Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 07:49:32PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 07:49:32PM -0500, Brian Reichert wrote: > On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 05:50:18PM -0500, Kenn Martin wrote: > > Looking for some tips on controlling local startup sequences when > > using MySQL. I imagine that other ISPs have similar configurations. > > > > FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE machines, scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d (some > > created by /usr/ports/* and some myself). Script names end in .sh, > > are executable, and are named starting with numbers so as to > > attempt to control sequencing. > > > > The problem we are experiencing is that at boot time, MySQL is being > > loaded but other packages which depend on MySQL, such as Apache and > > ICRADIUS, often fail. These packages are probably starting before MySQL > > finishes its initialization. > > I'm evoling away from this startup method, for the very reason you > describe. > > I've got a wad of startup scripts, that, among other things, use > lsof(8) to note when the application has opened a specific file. > Take the timing right out of the question. OK. Looking into this, but I just need to figure out which MySQL file(s) to run lsof against. It seems that most aren't open right after startup :-( But anyway, I think that I am getting closer to a better solution. Thanks, Kenn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 19:41:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ducky.nz.freebsd.org (chilled.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FB74048; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 19:41:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from wocker (wocker.int.nz.freebsd.org [192.168.0.99]) by ducky.nz.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA94709; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 16:41:09 +1300 (NZDT) Message-Id: <200002020341.QAA94709@ducky.nz.freebsd.org> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: Chris Johnson Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 16:41:07 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: secure connection from DSL to DSL users Reply-To: dan@freebsddiary.org Cc: security@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <20000201114329.A20524@palomine.net> References: <200002010837.VAA82428@ducky.nz.freebsd.org>; from Dan Langille on Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 09:37:49PM +1300 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1 Feb 00, at 11:43, Chris Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 09:37:49PM +1300, Dan Langille wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > I'm trying to find a fast, cheap, and secure way to connect together > > multiple locations which have DSL connections. For starters, let's > > assume three offices. I've been told about skip, but from what I can > > see, it requires X. Which is strange. Why put X on a gateway? > > > > Has anyone succeeded in implementing skip without using X? If so, > > how? > > > > Any other suggestions for the suggested connection? > > Try pipsecd. It's simple to set up and it works very well. > > /usr/ports/net/pipsecd Thanks. pipsecd has been the common recommendation. I'd rather use IPSec, but I am trying pipsecd first. I reserve judgement on how easy it is to setup. The documentation lacks a working pratical example and a step-by-step guide. If someone can provide me with their conf details and the ifconfig -tun0 output, I'll document it so it is easy to follow. cheers -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited [I'm looking for more work] The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.freebsddiary.org/ NZ FreeBSD User Group - http://www.nzfug.nz.freebsd.org/ The Racing System - http://www.racingsystem.com/ unix @ home - http://www.unixathome.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 20:40: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from boris.netgate.net (boris2.netgate.net [204.145.147.155]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D85923D37 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 20:40:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (wellsian@localhost) by boris.netgate.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA58203; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 20:38:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wellsian@caffeine.com) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 20:38:46 -0800 (PST) From: wellsian X-Sender: wellsian@boris.netgate.net To: Mark Holloway Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: O/T: Foundry In-Reply-To: <001101bf6d17$8be52970$a52410ac@sierrahealth.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We have an older model. Works fine but as you've noticed there's comptetition now. Check out ArrowPoint, too. They claim to outperform Foundry by 2x. Interesting hardware... Not affiliated, just slightly impressed. If only I had the budget. :) -Dave On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Mark Holloway wrote: > Does anyone here use Foundry switches in your ISP service? How do you > like them? I'm migrating away from 3Com and I'm looking at Foundry, > Cisco, and Extreme. For something a little more on topic, Foundry > does have some nice server load balancing features..so if you're > running FreeBSD based server farms, I guess it would be a nice add-on! > > Thanks, > Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 22: 6:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.basspro.com (mail.basspro.com [12.14.224.149]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 937153E39 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 22:06:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from basspro.com ([192.168.5.201]) by mail.basspro.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA51744; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:09:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from troyk@basspro.com) Message-ID: <3897C993.F4EDD507@basspro.com> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 00:07:15 -0600 From: Troy Kittrell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Holloway Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: O/T: Foundry References: <001101bf6d17$8be52970$a52410ac@sierrahealth.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We're (www.basspro-shops.com) using Foundry's ServerIron product. I don't personally manage it, but I researched and made the decision to use it to replace our Apache/rproxy load-balancing solution. I'll have to admit that the fact that it's based on DEC's AXP proccessor swayed my decision, but I'll also have to admit that since it's been in production, I hear no complaints that can be traced back to load-balancing. That's what makes my clock tick! Todd? Your $.02 worth? Mark Holloway wrote: > Does anyone here use Foundry switches in your ISP service? How do you > like them? I'm migrating away from 3Com and I'm looking at Foundry, > Cisco, and Extreme. For something a little more on topic, Foundry > does have some nice server load balancing features..so if you're > running FreeBSD based server farms, I guess it would be a nice > add-on! Thanks,Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 22:32:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from colossus.invictanet.co.uk (colossus.invictanet.co.uk [62.232.18.118]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306A63D37 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 22:32:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from harry (modem14.netkonect.net [194.164.208.14]) by colossus.invictanet.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA24737 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 06:32:49 GMT Reply-To: From: "Customer Support" To: "Freebsd-ISP" Subject: ppp Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 06:32:43 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am testing ppp dial out with a view to offering pre-configured machines to our customers. On occasions, immediately on a successful connection, this message appears: rtinit: wrong ifa (0x1311280) was (0xc1326e00) The numbers change but the message stays the same. Any ideas? Martyn ----------------------------------------------------- InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed http://www.invictanet.co.uk mailto:info@invictanet.co.uk phone: 0870 7402252 fax: +44 (0)1233 334001 ------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 22:52:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jaguar.ir.miami.edu (jaguar.ir.miami.edu [129.171.32.10]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 862BB3DD8; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 22:52:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from jaguar.ir.miami.edu ("port 1926"@jaguar.ir.miami.edu [129.171.32.10]) by jaguar.ir.miami.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #40232) with ESMTP id <0FPA0013QJ2TKA@jaguar.ir.miami.edu>; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 01:52:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 01:52:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" Subject: Re: Cisco Ethernet WAN module? In-reply-to: To: Mike Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Almost all of our routers offer a LAN/WAN connection. Our 2500 series have sync serial and ethernet/token ring across the board. What specifically are you looking for? Joe Clarke On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Mike wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I've been searching and browsing the Cisco web site for a router that has > either a built-in ethernet WAN connection or optional ethernet WAN module, > unfortunately only the high-end routers have that kind of feature. > > However, the 2514, 2611 and 3620 series routers support dual-LAN routing, > which in theory is equivalent to LAN/WAN routing. I'm not sure if using > dual-LAN routing would work for routing our LAN through ethernet > connection. If any of you have experience with this type of > configuration, please verify my assumption and/or correct me if I'm wrong. > > By the way, I also came across the Netopia R9100 Ethernet Router, does > anyone has opinion on the performance of this router? > > Looking forward in hearing your replies. > > Mike > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 22:54:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6064A3DD7; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 22:54:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA76001; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 22:54:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 22:54:05 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Dan Langille Cc: Chris Johnson , security@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: secure connection from DSL to DSL users In-Reply-To: <200002020341.QAA94709@ducky.nz.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, Dan Langille wrote: > Thanks. pipsecd has been the common recommendation. I'd rather > use IPSec, but I am trying pipsecd first. I reserve judgement on how As the name suggests, pipsecd is an implementation (albeit a reduced one) of IPSec, which has a more full-features version in the 4.0 kernel thanks to KAME. > easy it is to setup. The documentation lacks a working pratical > example and a step-by-step guide. If someone can provide me with > their conf details and the ifconfig -tun0 output, I'll document it so it is > easy to follow. ISTR such a thing being posted here in the past - you might want to check the archives. Kris ---- "How many roads must a man walk down, before you call him a man?" "Eight!" "That was a rhetorical question!" "Oh..then, seven!" -- Homer Simpson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 23: 3:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ducky.nz.freebsd.org (chilled.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F153EAB; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 23:03:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from wocker (wocker.int.nz.freebsd.org [192.168.0.99]) by ducky.nz.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA95941; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 20:03:29 +1300 (NZDT) Message-Id: <200002020703.UAA95941@ducky.nz.freebsd.org> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: Kris Kennaway Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 20:03:19 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: secure connection from DSL to DSL users Reply-To: dan@freebsddiary.org Cc: security@FreeBSD.org, isp@FreeBSD.org References: <200002020341.QAA94709@ducky.nz.freebsd.org> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1 Feb 00, at 22:54, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, Dan Langille wrote: > > > easy it is to setup. The documentation lacks a working pratical > > example and a step-by-step guide. If someone can provide me with > > their conf details and the ifconfig -tun0 output, I'll document it so it is > > easy to follow. > > ISTR such a thing being posted here in the past - you might want to check > the archives. Thanks. That was my first stop, but the archives were offline. In the meantime, I have some example via email and will report back later. -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited [I'm looking for more work] The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.freebsddiary.org/ NZ FreeBSD User Group - http://www.nzfug.nz.freebsd.org/ The Racing System - http://www.racingsystem.com/ unix @ home - http://www.unixathome.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 1 23:10:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from genus.am.wroc.pl (genus.am.wroc.pl [156.17.100.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086D83E85 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 23:10:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (reader@localhost) by genus.am.wroc.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA17026 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 08:10:14 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 08:10:14 +0100 (CET) From: Czytelnik To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Setting serial port speed Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I have TITAN-800 Card and it works up to 920 Kb/s. How can I set up speed more than 115 kb/s in freebsd 3.2? Maciej Baglaj To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 2 5: 3:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.areti.net (meteora.areti.com [193.118.189.10]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441D9406F for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 05:03:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from acropolis (ndear@acropolis.noc.areti.net [193.118.189.102]) by post.mail.areti.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Areti-2.0.0) with ESMTP id NAA10089 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 13:03:13 GMT Message-Id: <200002021303.NAA10089@post.mail.areti.net> From: "Nicholas J. Dear" Organization: Areti Internet Ltd. To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 13:00:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: virtual FTP servers. Reply-To: ndear@areti.net X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, What do people recommend for a FTP daemon that will allow us to do virtual FTP servers? Running 3.4-STABLE - our customised version has outgrown its life now. ;) N. -- Nicholas J. Dear Mail: ndear@areti.net Tel: +44 (0)20-8402-4041 Areti Internet Ltd., http://www.areti.co.uk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 2 5:13:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from nathalie.macomnet.ru (nathalie.macomnet.ru [195.128.64.164]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C7A3F49 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 05:13:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from nathalie.macomnet.ru (nathalie.macomnet.ru [195.128.64.164]) by nathalie.macomnet.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA33140; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 16:12:51 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from serg@macomnet.ru) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 16:12:51 +0300 (MSK) From: "Serg V. Shubenkov" Reply-To: serg@macomnet.ru To: "Nicholas J. Dear" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: virtual FTP servers. In-Reply-To: <200002021303.NAA10089@post.mail.areti.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org www.proftpd.net On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, Nicholas J. Dear wrote: #Hi, # #What do people recommend for a FTP daemon that will allow us to do virtual #FTP servers? Running 3.4-STABLE - our customised version has outgrown its #life now. ;) # #N. #-- #Nicholas J. Dear #Mail: ndear@areti.net Tel: +44 (0)20-8402-4041 #Areti Internet Ltd., http://www.areti.co.uk/ # # #To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org #with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message # ____________________ Serg V. Shubenkov Macomnet, Internet-Intranet Dep. Tel: +7 (095) 796-9079 Fax: +7 (095) 796-9067 e-mail: serg@macomnet.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 2 8:42:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0F24177 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 08:42:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29011; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:41:21 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:41:21 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Dillon To: Troy Kittrell Cc: Mark Holloway , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: O/T: Foundry In-Reply-To: <3897C993.F4EDD507@basspro.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, Troy Kittrell wrote: > We're (www.basspro-shops.com) using Foundry's ServerIron product. I > don't personally manage it, but I researched and made the decision to > use it to replace our Apache/rproxy load-balancing solution. I'll have > to admit that the fact that it's based on DEC's AXP proccessor swayed my > decision, but I'll also have to admit that since it's been in > production, I hear no complaints that can be traced back to > load-balancing. That's what makes my clock tick! Todd? Your $.02 worth? Last time someone showed one of these things to me, it was using a PPC processor, not an Alpha. When did they change, and which one are they using right now? Anyway, I was pretty impressed with it. :-) -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For Intel x86 and Alpha architectures. ( http://www.freebsd.org ) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 2 8:53: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from calumet.infoteam.com (calumet.infoteam.com [207.246.83.3]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 827CE4017 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 08:52:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kmartin@localhost) by calumet.infoteam.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00701 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 11:51:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kmartin) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 11:51:36 -0500 From: Kenn Martin To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: virtual FTP servers. Message-ID: <20000202115136.B329@infoteam.com> References: <200002021303.NAA10089@post.mail.areti.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from serg@macomnet.ru on Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 04:12:51PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, ProFTPd. Just be aware that the FTP protocol and not ProFTPd requires a separate IP address. You cannot have named virtual hosts like in HTTP-1.1 (Apache). On Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 04:12:51PM +0300, Serg V. Shubenkov wrote: > > www.proftpd.net > > On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, Nicholas J. Dear wrote: > > #Hi, > # > #What do people recommend for a FTP daemon that will allow us to do > virtual > #FTP servers? Running 3.4-STABLE - our customised version has outgrown > its > #life now. ;) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 2 10:19:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.qcislands.net (mail.qcislands.net [209.53.238.6]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A7F4095 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:19:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [209.53.238.8] (helo=wwwa.qcislands.net) by mail.qcislands.net with esmtp (Exim 3.036 #1) id 12G4K0-0006rc-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2000 10:16:08 -0800 Received: from ccstore by wwwa.qcislands.net with local (Exim 3.01 #3) id 12G4K1-0007h3-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2000 18:16:09 +0000 From: Jim Pazarena To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: re:virtual FTP servers. X-Mailer: SCO Shell Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:10:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <10002021010.aa05121@ccstores.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Subject: virtual FTP servers. >From: "Nicholas J. Dear" >Organization: Areti Internet Ltd. >To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org >Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 13:00:31 -0000 >Hi, >What do people recommend for a FTP daemon that will allow us to do virtual >FTP servers? Running 3.4-STABLE - our customised version has outgrown its >life now. ;) http://www.ncftpd.com extremely customizable -- Jim Pazarena mailto:paz@ccstores.com http://www.qcislands.net/paz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 2 10:33:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.numachi.com (numachi.numachi.com [198.175.254.2]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C447340CE for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:30:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 13395 invoked by uid 1001); 2 Feb 2000 17:29:14 -0000 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:29:14 -0500 From: Brian Reichert To: Kenn Martin Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: controlling local boot sequence Message-ID: <20000202122914.A13278@numachi.com> References: <20000201175018.A21189@infoteam.com> <20000201194931.B3152@numachi.com> <20000201223115.A24239@infoteam.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre4i In-Reply-To: <20000201223115.A24239@infoteam.com>; from kmartin@infoteam.com on Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 10:31:15PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 10:31:15PM -0500, Kenn Martin wrote: > OK. Looking into this, but I just need to figure out which MySQL > file(s) to run lsof against. It seems that most aren't open right > after startup :-( But anyway, I think that I am getting closer to > a better solution. I use either to the socket ( '/tmp/mysql.sock' ) or the network port ( 'TCP:3306' ), as per your local install. I suppose the socket is best, as MySQL can be started w/o a netwotk connection... Good luck... > Thanks, > Kenn -- Brian 'you Bastard' Reichert reichert@numachi.com 37 Crystal Ave. #303 Daytime number: (781) 899-7484 x704 Derry NH 03038-1713 USA Intel architecture: the left-hand path To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 2 11:32:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.basspro.com (mail.basspro.com [12.14.224.149]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C01744110 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 11:32:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from basspro.com (netgate.basspro.com [12.14.224.160]) by mail.basspro.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA58508; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 13:34:46 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from troyk@basspro.com) Message-ID: <38988678.DF05864E@basspro.com> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 13:33:13 -0600 From: Troy Kittrell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Dillon Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: O/T: Foundry References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We've had them just under six months, don't when they made the change. You're making me wanna go pop one open and look inside. :) Chris Dillon wrote: > > Last time someone showed one of these things to me, it was using a PPC > processor, not an Alpha. When did they change, and which one are they > using right now? Anyway, I was pretty impressed with it. :-) > > -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net > FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. > For Intel x86 and Alpha architectures. ( http://www.freebsd.org ) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 2 14:48:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from laurel.us.net (laurel.us.net [198.240.72.4]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D8C41D7 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:48:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jjw@localhost) by laurel.us.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA49648 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 17:48:21 -0500 (EST) X-Provider: US Net - Where Business Connects! (tm) - 301-361-USNET US Net Web Site: http://www.us.net/ or via Email: info@us.net From: John Woodruff Message-Id: <200002022248.RAA49648@laurel.us.net> Subject: Re: controlling local boot sequence In-Reply-To: <20000201175018.A21189@infoteam.com> from Kenn Martin at "Feb 1, 2000 05:50:18 pm" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 17:48:21 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This may seem like a far-out suggestion, but has anyone considered replacing the whole idea of a sequence of startup scripts with a concatenation of makefiles? Consider something like this: in file /etc/rc.network.m: START: network network: ifconfig ... in file /etc/rc.named.m: START: named named: network named ... in file /usr/local/etc/rc.apache.m: START: apache apache: named network apachectl ... Then, in /etc/rc or somewhere thereabouts: cat /etc/rc.*.m /usr/local/etc/rc.*.m | make -ik -f - START The idea is that you list everything that you need running when you start, and make figures out the right order. Just like now, no files need editing when you add a new subsystem. If a particular thing fails (say, MySQL), make won't start things that say they need it, but still starts things that don't (see the -k flag). > Looking for some tips on controlling local startup sequences when > using MySQL. I imagine that other ISPs have similar configurations. > > FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE machines, scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d (some > created by /usr/ports/* and some myself). Script names end in .sh, > are executable, and are named starting with numbers so as to > attempt to control sequencing. > > The problem we are experiencing is that at boot time, MySQL is being > loaded but other packages which depend on MySQL, such as Apache and > ICRADIUS, often fail. These packages are probably starting before MySQL > finishes its initialization. I know the /etc/periodic files are named > with a numbering scheme so I tried that in /usr/local/etc/rc.d without > any consistent success. Packages that fail to start during the boot > process can be started manually using these exact same scripts. > > It appears that I can merge the multiple scripts into one master script, > but that doesn't exactly seem like the proper way to handle the problem. > > How do others handle these type of dependencies? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 2 15: 8: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (dynamic-71.max4-du-ws.dialnetwork.pavilion.co.uk [212.74.9.199]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0502341E1 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:07:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA62178; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:07:41 GMT (envelope-from brian@lan.awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA00426; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 19:58:05 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200002021958.TAA00426@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: support@invictanet.co.uk Cc: "Freebsd-ISP" , brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: ppp In-Reply-To: Message from "Customer Support" of "Wed, 02 Feb 2000 06:32:43 GMT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 19:58:05 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I am testing ppp dial out with a view to offering pre-configured machines to our customers. > > On occasions, immediately on a successful connection, this message appears: > > rtinit: wrong ifa (0x1311280) was (0xc1326e00) > > The numbers change but the message stays the same. Any ideas? This has been fixed in -current but I didn't backport it to -stable. The error is harmless and should be ignored. It's *trying* to say that you're assigning an address that's already in use to an interface, not realising that that's actually ok as long as they're both not broadcast capable interfaces. > Martyn > ----------------------------------------------------- > InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed > http://www.invictanet.co.uk > mailto:info@invictanet.co.uk > phone: 0870 7402252 > fax: +44 (0)1233 334001 > ------------------------------------------------------ -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 2 20:17:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A8F4208; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 20:17:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id OAA20045; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:47:00 +1030 (CST) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:47:00 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Rowan Crowe , Ade Lovett Cc: aussie-isp@aussie.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Alfred Perlstein , jmb@FreeBSD.ORG, ryanm@accn.org Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <20000203144700.G18958@freebie.lemis.com> References: <20000202194641.F25520@fw.wintelcom.net> <3898F8C3.EEB611FB@3-cities.com> <20000202214615.K360@lovett.com> <200002030233.VAA28658@ns1.accn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <200002030233.VAA28658@ns1.accn.org> WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday, 2 February 2000 at 21:46:15 -0600, Ade Lovett wrote: > On Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 07:40:51PM -0800, Kent Stewart wrote: >> >> Alfred Perlstein wrote: >>> >>> Hrm, I've been seeing these on and off lately from the list, is this >>> some indication that my local mail is misconfigured, my mailer (mutt) >>> is mis-parsing or that majordomo@freebsd.org is hiccuping? >>> >>> No need for a detailed analysis, I'm just wondering if anyone else >>> is getting these. >> >> I also got it. Sometimes I think it is a braino on their end. Someone >> does something and here they come :). > > I'm seeing these across a number of freebsd-* lists.. the common > factor in all of them is: > >> Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) >> by tiberius.accn.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA13401 >> for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 21:10:18 -0500 (EST) > > It would appear as being a misconfiguration on tiberius.accn.org > which needs the appropriate ax of doom thrown at it. That seems a reasonable assumption. More specifically, I'd guess that ryanm@accn.org might have an idea about it. I've seen at least one of these which didn't even go back to FreeBSD, though it was involved. See below. Do you have an axe? jmb, any ideas? Greg On Wednesday, 2 February 2000 at 21:33:29 -0500, Rowan Crowe wrote: > Return-Path: > Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) > by tiberius.accn.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA14714 > for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 21:42:35 -0500 (EST) > Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 538) > id E909C14D29; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 18:44:26 -0800 (PST) > Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP > id D37561CD82C; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 18:44:26 -0800 (PST) > (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) > Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 9 Jan 2000 18:44:26 -0800 > Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (tunnel0-velvet-brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) > by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1ABE14FE7 > for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 18:44:14 -0800 (PST) > (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) > Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) > by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA14959; > Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:43:51 +1100 (EST) > (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) > X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:43:49 +1100 (EST) > Subject: TX pro II motherboard > Message-ID: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Precedence: bulk -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 2 21:38:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C274274 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 21:38:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12GExA-0003Oi-00; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 21:37:16 -0800 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 21:37:15 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Kenn Martin Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: controlling local boot sequence In-Reply-To: <20000201175018.A21189@infoteam.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Kenn Martin wrote: > The problem we are experiencing is that at boot time, MySQL is being > loaded but other packages which depend on MySQL, such as Apache and > ICRADIUS, often fail. These packages are probably starting before MySQL > finishes its initialization. I know the /etc/periodic files are named ... Have you actually determined that is true, or are you just guessing? I really doubt that this is your problem. Apache will always start even is MySQL is not running (very easy to test btw). Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 2 22: 3:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from almazs.pacex.net (almazs.pacex.net [204.1.219.156]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F494251 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 22:03:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (danielb@localhost) by almazs.pacex.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA61426 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 22:03:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 22:03:14 -0800 (PST) From: daniel B To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Weird Apache access log files Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Felas; I was going through some of the access log for one of our website and I get a lot of these: 205.188.209.244 - - [02/Feb/2000:07:49:37 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 205.188.209.244 - - [02/Feb/2000:07:49:37 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 205.188.209.244 - - [02/Feb/2000:07:49:38 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 . . . 205.188.209.240 - - [02/Feb/2000:11:56:25 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 205.188.209.240 - - [02/Feb/2000:11:56:25 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 205.188.209.240 - - [02/Feb/2000:11:56:26 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 . . . now look at this: 1-lm 6144/udp #StatSci License Manager - 1 statsci2-lm 6145/tcp #StatSci License Manager - 2 statsci2-lm 6145/udp #StatSci License Manager - 2 lonewolf-lm 6146/tcp #Lone Wolf Systems License Manager lonewolf-lm 6146/udp #Lone Wolf Systems License Manager montage-lm 6147/tcp #Montage License Manager montage-lm 6147/udp #Montage License Manager ricardo-lm 6148/tcp #Ricardo North America License Manager ricardo-lm 6148/udp #Ricardo North America License Manager xdsxdm 6558/tcp xdsxdm 6558/udp acmsoda 6969/tcp acmsoda 6969/udp afs3-fileserver 7000/tcp #file server itself afs3-fileserver 7000/udp #file server itself :q! % login danielb Password: Last login: Wed Feb 2 15:00:21 on ttyv4 Copyright (c) 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.4-RC (AL-KERNEL) #0: Sat Dec 18 12:27:28 PST 1999 PINE 4.10 COMPOSE MESSAGE Folder: INBOX 4 Messages . . . 205.188.209.240 - - [02/Feb/2000:11:56:25 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 205.188.209.240 - - [02/Feb/2000:11:56:25 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 205.188.209.240 - - [02/Feb/2000:11:56:26 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 . . . now look at this: % nslookup 205.188.209.244 Name: stress-dt03.proxy.aol.com Address: 205.188.209.244 and; % nslookup 205.188.209.240 Name: cache-dt12.proxy.aol.com Address: 205.188.209.240 These requests are realy flooding my webserver should I block the above two IPs at the firewall? what is aol trying to do?? Thanks Dan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 2 22:12:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from almazs.pacex.net (almazs.pacex.net [204.1.219.156]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF06B427D for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 22:12:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (danielb@localhost) by almazs.pacex.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA61458 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 22:12:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 22:12:31 -0800 (PST) From: daniel B To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE:Weird Apache access log files sorry for the junk stuff! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry guys my apology the last posting I made has some 'junk' stuff that I captured from the buffer and mistakenly pasted to the message... pine over SSH is kind of flaky for me some times. The posting should have looked like this: Hi Felas; I was going through some of the access log for one of our website and I get a lot of these: 205.188.209.244 - - [02/Feb/2000:07:49:37 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 205.188.209.244 - - [02/Feb/2000:07:49:37 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 205.188.209.244 - - [02/Feb/2000:07:49:38 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 . . . 205.188.209.240 - - [02/Feb/2000:11:56:25 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 205.188.209.240 - - [02/Feb/2000:11:56:25 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 205.188.209.240 - - [02/Feb/2000:11:56:26 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 . . . now look at this: % nslookup 205.188.209.244 Name: stress-dt03.proxy.aol.com Address: 205.188.209.244 and; % nslookup 205.188.209.240 Name: cache-dt12.proxy.aol.com Address: 205.188.209.240 These requests are realy flooding my webserver should I block the above two IPs at the firewall? what is aol trying to do?? Thanks Dan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 2 22:29:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50736423B for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 22:29:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (1555 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 00:26:30 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #1 built 1999-Aug-7) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 00:26:30 -0600 (CST) From: James Wyatt To: daniel B Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Weird Apache access log files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, daniel B wrote: > Hi Felas; > I was going through some of the access log for one of our website and I > get a lot of these: > > 205.188.209.244 - - [02/Feb/2000:07:49:37 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 > 205.188.209.244 - - [02/Feb/2000:07:49:37 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 > 205.188.209.244 - - [02/Feb/2000:07:49:38 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 > . > . > . > > 205.188.209.240 - - [02/Feb/2000:11:56:25 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 > 205.188.209.240 - - [02/Feb/2000:11:56:25 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 > 205.188.209.240 - - [02/Feb/2000:11:56:26 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 [ ... ] This *is* pretty odd... You should notice that the '200' was the status returned to the client. 6146 is the length of the home page fow www.pacex.net, not a socket number. The proxy is numerous copies of your base page, but are there any other accesses? It sounds like a bug in their proxy software - I'd email them asking about it. - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 2 22:49:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from peppermint.national.com.au (peppermint.national.com.au [203.57.240.100]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FCD042C8 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 22:49:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nconedd@localhost) by peppermint.national.com.au (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id RAA15663 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:49:02 +1100 (EST) From: Enno Davids Message-Id: <200002030649.RAA15663@peppermint.national.com.au> Subject: Re: Weird Apache access log files In-Reply-To: from James Wyatt at "Feb 3, 0 00:26:30 am" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:49:02 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, daniel B wrote: | > Hi Felas; | > I was going through some of the access log for one of our website and I | > get a lot of these: | > | > 205.188.209.244 - - [02/Feb/2000:07:49:37 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 | > 205.188.209.244 - - [02/Feb/2000:07:49:37 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 | > 205.188.209.244 - - [02/Feb/2000:07:49:38 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 | > . | > . | > . | > | > 205.188.209.240 - - [02/Feb/2000:11:56:25 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 | > 205.188.209.240 - - [02/Feb/2000:11:56:25 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 | > 205.188.209.240 - - [02/Feb/2000:11:56:26 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 | [ ... ] | | base page, but are there any other accesses? It sounds like a bug in their | proxy software - I'd email them asking about it. - Jy@ Or somebody inside AOL is repeatedly banging on your homepage for some reason. A DOS attack perhaps? Enno. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 2 22:53:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from eastgate.cyberway.com.sg (eastgate.cyberway.com.sg [203.116.1.189]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4D842C9 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 22:53:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from asdf (dyn3-177cable.je1.singa.pore.net [202.169.241.177]) by eastgate.cyberway.com.sg (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA26872; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:53:18 +0800 (SST) Message-ID: <007901bf6e99$76a5eb20$b1f1a9ca@singa.pore.net> From: "James Lim" To: "daniel B" , References: Subject: Re: RE:Weird Apache access log files sorry for the junk stuff! Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:53:17 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, Seems u are having some problems from AOL . I got numerous hundreds of relaying requests from AOL. They are trying to use my server as a SMTP , and the log files are huge. Why are they doing this? Beats me. Regards, James Systems One Internet Services www.s1web.com sg.freebsd.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "daniel B" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 10:12 PM Subject: RE:Weird Apache access log files sorry for the junk stuff! > Sorry guys my apology the last posting I made has some 'junk' stuff that I > captured from the buffer and mistakenly pasted to the message... pine over > SSH is kind of flaky for me some times. > The posting should have looked like this: > > Hi Felas; > I was going through some of the access log for one of our website and I > get a lot of these: > > 205.188.209.244 - - [02/Feb/2000:07:49:37 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 > 205.188.209.244 - - [02/Feb/2000:07:49:37 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 > 205.188.209.244 - - [02/Feb/2000:07:49:38 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 > . > . > . > > 205.188.209.240 - - [02/Feb/2000:11:56:25 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 > 205.188.209.240 - - [02/Feb/2000:11:56:25 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 > 205.188.209.240 - - [02/Feb/2000:11:56:26 -0800] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 6146 > . > . > . > now look at this: > % nslookup 205.188.209.244 > > > Name: stress-dt03.proxy.aol.com > Address: 205.188.209.244 > > and; > % nslookup 205.188.209.240 > > > Name: cache-dt12.proxy.aol.com > Address: 205.188.209.240 > > These requests are realy flooding my webserver should I block the above > two IPs at the firewall? what is aol trying to do?? > > > Thanks > > Dan > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 2 23: 7:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from calumet.infoteam.com (calumet.infoteam.com [207.246.83.3]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA4642E7 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:07:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kmartin@localhost) by calumet.infoteam.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA09944 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 02:07:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kmartin) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 02:07:35 -0500 From: Kenn Martin To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: controlling local boot sequence Message-ID: <20000203020735.A9800@infoteam.com> References: <20000201175018.A21189@infoteam.com> <20000201194931.B3152@numachi.com> <20000201223115.A24239@infoteam.com> <20000202122914.A13278@numachi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000202122914.A13278@numachi.com>; from reichert@numachi.com on Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 12:29:14PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 12:29:14PM -0500, Brian Reichert wrote: > On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 10:31:15PM -0500, Kenn Martin wrote: > > OK. Looking into this, but I just need to figure out which MySQL > > file(s) to run lsof against. It seems that most aren't open right > > after startup :-( But anyway, I think that I am getting closer to > > a better solution. > > I use either to the socket ( '/tmp/mysql.sock' ) or the network > port ( 'TCP:3306' ), as per your local install. I suppose the > socket is best, as MySQL can be started w/o a netwotk connection... I guess that I've never used lsof on sockets before. I can't seem to get it to work on /tmp/mysql.sock (which exists) with or without command line options. I may look at using netstat next. kenn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 2 23:18:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from calumet.infoteam.com (calumet.infoteam.com [207.246.83.3]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BF84208 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:18:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kmartin@localhost) by calumet.infoteam.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA10017 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 02:18:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kmartin) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 02:18:50 -0500 From: Kenn Martin To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: controlling local boot sequence Message-ID: <20000203021850.B9800@infoteam.com> References: <20000201175018.A21189@infoteam.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from tom@sdf.com on Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 09:37:15PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 09:37:15PM -0800, Tom wrote: > > On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Kenn Martin wrote: > > > The problem we are experiencing is that at boot time, MySQL is being > > loaded but other packages which depend on MySQL, such as Apache and > > ICRADIUS, often fail. These packages are probably starting before MySQL > > finishes its initialization. I know the /etc/periodic files are named > ... > > Have you actually determined that is true, or are you just guessing? > > I really doubt that this is your problem. Apache will always start even > is MySQL is not running (very easy to test btw). I know it is true for ICRADIUS and others that use MySQL. I mis-spoke on Apache. The problem we had there was an issue of ldconfig of the MySQL hints. The /var/log/radius.log file gives: Thu Feb 3 00:45:19 2000: Error: Init: Couldn't connect authentication socket to MySQL server on localhost as radius Thu Feb 3 00:45:19 2000: Error: Init: Couldn't connect accounting socket to MySQL server on localhost as radius Putting a short sleep at the end of the mysql-server script or the beginning of the radiusd script solves the problem. Of course, putting it in the mysql-server script fixes it for more than radius. I just don't like using an arbitrary sleep value. Setting it too low risks not really fixing the problem and setting it too high just delays the boot process. kenn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 3 0: 5: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from calumet.infoteam.com (calumet.infoteam.com [207.246.83.3]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 415BB4309 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 00:04:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kmartin@localhost) by calumet.infoteam.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA10210 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 03:05:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kmartin) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 03:05:03 -0500 From: Kenn Martin To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: controlling local boot sequence Message-ID: <20000203030503.A10082@infoteam.com> References: <20000201175018.A21189@infoteam.com> <20000201194931.B3152@numachi.com> <20000201223115.A24239@infoteam.com> <20000202122914.A13278@numachi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000202122914.A13278@numachi.com>; from reichert@numachi.com on Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 12:29:14PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 12:29:14PM -0500, Brian Reichert wrote: > On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 10:31:15PM -0500, Kenn Martin wrote: > > OK. Looking into this, but I just need to figure out which MySQL > > file(s) to run lsof against. It seems that most aren't open right > > after startup :-( But anyway, I think that I am getting closer to > > a better solution. > > I use either to the socket ( '/tmp/mysql.sock' ) or the network > port ( 'TCP:3306' ), as per your local install. I suppose the > socket is best, as MySQL can be started w/o a netwotk connection... Well, for anyone that is interested, using netstat to check for the socket appears to work very reliably. Here is my new mysql-server startup script. I have it echo the dot in the loop just so I can visually see what is happening on the console. It always echoes one or two dots (depending on the system). kmartin@alydar$ cat /usr/local/etc/rc.d/340.mysql-server.sh #!/bin/sh if [ -x /usr/local/bin/safe_mysqld ] then /usr/local/bin/safe_mysqld --user=mysql > /dev/null & && echo -n ' mysql' # make sure that our sockets have initialized before continuing # as other startup daemons depend on us until /usr/bin/netstat | grep mysql\.sock > /dev/null; do echo -n "."; sleep 1; done fi -- Kenn Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 3 1:25:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from lilzcvp.liwest.at (lilzcvp.liwest.at [212.33.32.230]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BE95443FF for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 01:25:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.33.32.221] by lilzcvp.relay.liwest.at (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB8573.63.b914fe78) with ESMTP id qkdraaaa for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 10:25:10 +0000 Received: by OFFICE1_LIWEST with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 10:24:49 +0100 Message-ID: <1F879C64A1A7D211B0F10004AC4C07FC119CDF@OFFICE1_LIWEST> From: Haider Roland To: "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: PPP over Ethernet, the Server-Side? Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 10:24:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, we are a xDSL provider, that is granting its customers the luxury of manualy entered static IP-addresses. However administrating static routes is impossibile and dynamic is a problem due to abuse. In many cases only because of the incompetence of "network-consultants" our customers hire. So to reduce troubleshooting time we want to implement some authentication system. Therefore the question: Has anybody expirience with such a configuration and is willing to share it with me? What software/hardware for PPPoE is capeable of handling full FastEthernet speed? Thanks in advance, Roland To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 3 5: 1: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.via-net-works.net.ar (ns1.via-net-works.net.ar [200.10.100.10]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC1843A0 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 05:00:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fpscha@localhost) by ns1.via-net-works.net.ar (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA01984 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 10:01:29 -0300 (GMT) From: Fernando Schapachnik Message-Id: <200002031301.KAA01984@ns1.via-net-works.net.ar> Subject: Routing questions To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 10:01:28 -0300 (GMT) Reply-To: Fernando Schapachnik X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello: I have a situation where some help would be very apretiated. I'm using a FreeBSD box as a router, and I route some net, say 10.0.0 through an ethernet interface (acting as a point-to-point iface). I want the machine to stop propagating the route when the interface falls (something such as what CISCO routers do). I've tried flaging the route as nostatic. This causes the route to disappear as the link falls, but it doesn't show up again when the link is back. Any suggestions? Thanks! Fernando P. Schapachnik Administración de la red VIA NET.WORKS ARGENTINA S.A. fernando@via-net-works.net.ar (54-11) 4323-3333 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 3 5: 1:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from redbox.venux.net (redbox.venux.net [216.47.238.10]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982AC4396 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 05:01:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from thunder (net4842.hcv.com [216.93.48.42]) by redbox.venux.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B412E20B for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 07:52:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000203080148.00abd8a0@mail.venux.net> X-Sender: mhagerty@mail.venux.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 08:02:03 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Matthew Hagerty Subject: IPFW with NATd Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings, I am running NATd and IPFW on FreeBSD-3.4-Release as a dual-homed packet filter gateway for my internal network (assigned 10.0.0.0) and a perimeter network with real IP assignment. I was wondering if it is possible to split the divert rule of IPFW so that I can have my rules apply to the internal addresses? The initial IPFW rule, when NATd is used, is the first one in the list, like this (from rc.firewall): $fwcmd add divert natd all from any to any via ${natd_interface} From what I understand of the man page, this hands all packets to NATd for translation prior to the rest of the rules. So my IPFW rules will only see the external (real) IP address for all hosts on the internal network. I.e. if host 10.0.0.10 tries to send a packet, the first IPFW rule is the divert which will change the address to the external IP, so the only address I have to work with in the IPFW rules is the real external IP. What I would like to be able to do is have rules that I can base on the internal IP addresses. I started to experiment with this a little, this is what I tried: $fwcmd add divert natd all from ${onet}:${omask} to any in via ${oif} . . . IPFW rules here have both sets of IP addresses, real addresses and fake to work with. . . . $fwcmd add divert natd all from ${inet}:${imask} to any out via ${oif} So in essence the incoming packets from the real world get sent through NATd prior to the rules and outgoing packets from the internal network get sent through NATd last, after the rules. This (I was hoping) would allow me to make rules based on certain internal hosts, i.e. my internal DNS host needs to talk to my external fake DNS on the bastion host, but no other internal host should be allowed to query the external DNS (bastion) host directly, unless a rule is written specifically for it. I did actually get this to work with the DNS example, my fake DNS on the external network could communicate with the internal DNS and vice-versa. But when I tried to add a rule to allow the rest of the internal hosts to surf, etc. it broke. The only error I got was a "can't send packet back" error on the terminal. Any insight on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Matthew Hagerty To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 3 6:47:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gate.webclub.ru (gate.web2000.ru [195.58.61.2]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D034B43BF for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 06:47:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from newbee.web2000.ru ([195.58.61.40]) by gate.webclub.ru with smtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12GNXN-0004jH-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2000 17:47:13 +0300 From: Andrey Novikov Organization: WebClub To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Passwords database Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:43:13 +0300 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00020317455102.00392@newbee.web2000.ru> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, excuse me for this very outdated question, I now it was discussed few months ago, but the freebsd mail archive is down now and I need an urgent reply: Is there any way to port passwords database from 2.2.8 to 3.x? Andrey Novikov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 3 6:57: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from lily.ezo.net (lily.ezo.net [206.102.130.13]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6DD943AB for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 06:56:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from lily.ezo.net (jflowers@localhost.ezo.net [127.0.0.1]) by lily.ezo.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA09133; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:56:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:56:51 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Flowers To: Matthew Hagerty Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFW with NATd In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000203080148.00abd8a0@mail.venux.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Insights for NATD. 1. You can have multiple rules each matching a different criteria. It's just a divert hook to the natd process. 2. You can set up criteria to bypass natd by placing rules that terminate the ipfw pass ahead of the divert rule. for example: 10 allow ip from any to any.that.you.dont.want.to.divert via in.ifc in 3. ipfw only makes one pass if net.inet.ip.fw.one_pass is set in sysctl 4. You can run multiple natd with different interfaces such as: 100 divert 8668 ip from any to any via wi0 101 divert 8669 ip from any to any via ed0 You also need multiple natd processes, one at -p 8668 and one at -p 8669. Each can have its own set of rules (-redirect_port, etc.). This is useful for having external addresses (via a skip nomad connection, for example) act as part of the local network for purposes of wandering around a VPN. 5. Natd processes should be started AFTER any process that modifies the interface MTU or there will be difficulties. 6. Use natd -v to see what is really happening. Jim Flowers #4 ISP on C|NET, #1 in Ohio On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, Matthew Hagerty wrote: > This (I was hoping) would allow me to make rules based on certain internal > hosts, i.e. my internal DNS host needs to talk to my external fake DNS on > the bastion host, but no other internal host should be allowed to query the > external DNS (bastion) host directly, unless a rule is written specifically > for it. > > I did actually get this to work with the DNS example, my fake DNS on the > external network could communicate with the internal DNS and > vice-versa. But when I tried to add a rule to allow the rest of the > internal hosts to surf, etc. it broke. The only error I got was a "can't > send packet back" error on the terminal. > > Any insight on this would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > Matthew Hagerty To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 3 8:26:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dominik.saargate.de (dominik.saargate.de [212.88.133.252]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D0840A6 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 08:26:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dominik.saargate.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA04432; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:25:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from domi@saargate.de) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:25:16 +0100 (CET) From: Dominik Brettnacher To: "scriber@web2000.ru" Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Passwords database In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, scriber@web2000.ru wrote: > excuse me for this very outdated question, I now it was > discussed few months ago, but the freebsd mail archive is > down now and I need an urgent reply: > Is there any way to port passwords database from 2.2.8 to > 3.x? I think this should not be a problem. -- Dominik - http://www.saargate.de/~domi/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 3 9: 8:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from redbox.venux.net (redbox.venux.net [216.47.238.10]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6788440A6 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:08:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from testbox (dialup-133.venux.net [216.47.238.133]) by redbox.venux.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D2782E20B; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:59:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000203120447.00a26240@mail.venux.net> X-Sender: mhag2@mail.venux.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 12:10:37 -0500 To: Jim Flowers From: Matthew Hagerty Subject: Re: IPFW with NATd Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.2.20000203080148.00abd8a0@mail.venux.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for the quick response! I do have a few questions though, please see below. At 09:56 AM 2/3/00 -0500, Jim Flowers wrote: >Insights for NATD. > >1. You can have multiple rules each matching a different criteria. It's > just a divert hook to the natd process. Once a packet goes to natd and comes back, can I still qualify the packet based on the original IP address or is it completely gone at this point? >2. You can set up criteria to bypass natd by placing rules that > terminate the ipfw pass ahead of the divert rule. for example: > > 10 allow ip from any to any.that.you.dont.want.to.divert via in.ifc in > >3. ipfw only makes one pass if net.inet.ip.fw.one_pass is set in sysctl How many passes does ipfw normally make? >4. You can run multiple natd with different interfaces such as: > > 100 divert 8668 ip from any to any via wi0 > 101 divert 8669 ip from any to any via ed0 > > You also need multiple natd processes, one at -p 8668 and one at -p > 8669. Each can have its own set of rules (-redirect_port, etc.). > This is useful for having external addresses (via a skip nomad > connection, for example) act as part of the local network for > purposes of wandering around a VPN. Don't quite understand this one. >5. Natd processes should be started AFTER any process that modifies the > interface MTU or there will be difficulties. > >6. Use natd -v to see what is really happening. I'll certainly give this one a try! Thanks, Matthew >Jim Flowers >#4 ISP on C|NET, #1 in Ohio > >On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, Matthew Hagerty wrote: > > This (I was hoping) would allow me to make rules based on certain internal > > hosts, i.e. my internal DNS host needs to talk to my external fake DNS on > > the bastion host, but no other internal host should be allowed to query > the > > external DNS (bastion) host directly, unless a rule is written > specifically > > for it. > > > > I did actually get this to work with the DNS example, my fake DNS on the > > external network could communicate with the internal DNS and > > vice-versa. But when I tried to add a rule to allow the rest of the > > internal hosts to surf, etc. it broke. The only error I got was a "can't > > send packet back" error on the terminal. > > > > Any insight on this would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > Matthew Hagerty To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 3 19:22:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from daedal.oneway.com (daedal.oneway.com [205.252.89.49]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5870F3E37 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 19:22:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jay@localhost) by daedal.oneway.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA03970 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 22:19:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jay@oneway.com) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 22:19:11 -0500 (EST) From: Jay Kuri To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: route configuration question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I have a routing problem I need some help with and I'm hoping someone can tell me how to do this. I have a server that has two connections to the internet. One is a wan link, the other is an ethernet link. Normally, I want all traffic to run through a gateway machine on the ethernet link. If, for some reason, the ethernet-gateway is unreachable (or unusable) I want the server to switch to the wan link. I do not, however, want it to inform the ethernet-gateway that it can route over the wan link. I understand that routed is probably the thing to use... but I am confused about whether I can use this without sending a notification to the ethernet gateway. Can anyone make any suggestions about how to do this? If routed is not the right thing to use, does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks very much for any help you can provide, Jay - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - UNIX: because reboots are for hardware upgrades Jay Kuri jay@oneway.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 4 1:55:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from impatience.valueclick.com (impatience.valueclick.com [216.64.159.40]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D049C4454 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 01:55:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 19239 invoked by uid 500); 4 Feb 2000 09:55:36 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Feb 2000 09:55:36 -0000 Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 01:55:36 -0800 (PST) From: Ask Bjoern Hansen To: Chris Dillon Cc: Troy Kittrell , Mark Holloway , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: O/T: Foundry In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, Chris Dillon wrote: ... > Last time someone showed one of these things to me, it was using a PPC > processor, not an Alpha. When did they change, and which one are they > using right now? Anyway, I was pretty impressed with it. :-) I could only remember the login details for one several months old, but yes, that one is a ppc. telnet@lb01#sh ver SW: Version 05.0.03T12 Copyright (c) 1996-1999 Foundry Networks, Inc. Compiled on Jun 29 1999 at 10:56:44 labeled as SLB05003 HW: ServerIron Switch, serial number 041890 240 MHz Power PC processor 603 (revision 7) with 32756K bytes of DRAM 16 100BaseT interfaces with Level 1 Transceiver LXT975 2 GIGA uplink interfaces, SX ... We have a bunch of them, and they work alright I think (not my department). The cli is really lame, or at least the hours I played with them it worn out my patience pretty fast. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - more than 70M impressions per day, To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 4 5: 2:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from loki.iss.net (loki.iss.net [208.21.0.3]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157D54057 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 05:02:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from networkcomputerz.com (aotwell.iss.net [208.21.3.106]) by loki.iss.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA16062; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 07:56:44 -0500 Message-ID: <389ACCE4.BDA7E52B@networkcomputerz.com> Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 07:58:12 -0500 From: Andrew Otwell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dominik Brettnacher Cc: "scriber@web2000.ru" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Passwords database References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org no problem at all... as long as you install the DES cipher. my system is using the MD5 cipher - little more secure than DES. See the follwing. bash-2.03$ ls -l /usr/lib/libcrypt* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 11 Jan 31 09:39 /usr/lib/libcrypt.a -> libscrypt.a lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 12 Jan 31 09:39 /usr/lib/libcrypt.so -> libscrypt.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 14 Jan 31 09:39 /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.2 -> libscrypt.so.2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 13 Jan 31 09:40 /usr/lib/libcrypt_p.a -> libscrypt_p.a bash-2.03$ Now you will see a system running the DES cipher. This is what you would want for backward compatibility. bash-2.03$ ls -l /usr/lib/libcrypt* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 11 Jan 31 09:39 /usr/lib/libcrypt.a -> libdescrypt.a lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 12 Jan 31 09:39 /usr/lib/libcrypt.so -> libdescrypt.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 14 Jan 31 09:39 /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.2 -> libdescrypt.so.2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 13 Jan 31 09:40 /usr/lib/libcrypt_p.a -> libdescrypt_p.a bash-2.03$ Dominik Brettnacher wrote: > On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, scriber@web2000.ru wrote: > > > excuse me for this very outdated question, I now it was > > discussed few months ago, but the freebsd mail archive is > > down now and I need an urgent reply: > > Is there any way to port passwords database from 2.2.8 to > > 3.x? > > I think this should not be a problem. > > -- > Dominik - http://www.saargate.de/~domi/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 4 6:26:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.basspro.com (mail.basspro.com [12.14.224.149]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E3944048 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 06:26:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from basspro.com (netgate.basspro.com [12.14.224.160]) by mail.basspro.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA78489; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 08:27:50 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from troyk@basspro.com) Message-ID: <389AE187.9D375DAA@basspro.com> Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 08:26:15 -0600 From: Troy Kittrell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ask Bjoern Hansen Cc: Chris Dillon , Mark Holloway , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: O/T: Foundry References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The cli interface wasn't well rated in anything I read while researching the ServerIrons. We went ahead and purchased the GUI for it. IMHO, anyone considering purchasing them should just include the GUI and be done with it. Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: > On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, Chris Dillon wrote: > > ... > > Last time someone showed one of these things to me, it was using a PPC > > processor, not an Alpha. When did they change, and which one are they > > using right now? Anyway, I was pretty impressed with it. :-) > > I could only remember the login details for one several months old, but > yes, that one is a ppc. > > telnet@lb01#sh ver > SW: Version 05.0.03T12 Copyright (c) 1996-1999 Foundry Networks, Inc. > Compiled on Jun 29 1999 at 10:56:44 labeled as SLB05003 > HW: ServerIron Switch, serial number 041890 > 240 MHz Power PC processor 603 (revision 7) with 32756K bytes of DRAM > 16 100BaseT interfaces with Level 1 Transceiver LXT975 > 2 GIGA uplink interfaces, SX > ... > > We have a bunch of them, and they work alright I think (not my > department). The cli is really lame, or at least the hours I played with > them it worn out my patience pretty fast. > > - ask > > -- > ask bjoern hansen - > more than 70M impressions per day, To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 4 12: 0:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from PacHell.TelcoSucks.org (PacHell.TelcoSucks.org [207.90.181.5]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47EEB4569 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 11:36:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ulf@localhost) by PacHell.TelcoSucks.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA72545; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 11:29:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ulf) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 11:29:59 -0800 From: Ulf Zimmermann To: Troy Kittrell Cc: Ask Bjoern Hansen , Chris Dillon , Mark Holloway , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: O/T: Foundry Message-ID: <20000204112959.B60735@PacHell.TelcoSucks.org> Reply-To: ulf@Alameda.net References: <389AE187.9D375DAA@basspro.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <389AE187.9D375DAA@basspro.com>; from troyk@basspro.com on Fri, Feb 04, 2000 at 08:26:15AM -0600 Organization: Alameda Networks, Inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Feb 04, 2000 at 08:26:15AM -0600, Troy Kittrell wrote: > The cli interface wasn't well rated in anything I read while researching the > ServerIrons. We went ahead and purchased the GUI for it. IMHO, anyone > considering purchasing them should just include the GUI and be done with it. > > Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: > > > On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, Chris Dillon wrote: > > > > ... > > > Last time someone showed one of these things to me, it was using a PPC > > > processor, not an Alpha. When did they change, and which one are they > > > using right now? Anyway, I was pretty impressed with it. :-) > > > > I could only remember the login details for one several months old, but > > yes, that one is a ppc. > > > > telnet@lb01#sh ver > > SW: Version 05.0.03T12 Copyright (c) 1996-1999 Foundry Networks, Inc. > > Compiled on Jun 29 1999 at 10:56:44 labeled as SLB05003 > > HW: ServerIron Switch, serial number 041890 > > 240 MHz Power PC processor 603 (revision 7) with 32756K bytes of DRAM > > 16 100BaseT interfaces with Level 1 Transceiver LXT975 > > 2 GIGA uplink interfaces, SX > > ... > > > > We have a bunch of them, and they work alright I think (not my > > department). The cli is really lame, or at least the hours I played with > > them it worn out my patience pretty fast. > > > > - ask The cli is pretty Cisco like and it has one big advantage above Cisco the last time I used it. While in configure mode, you can't look at the current config on Ciscos, you can on Foundry. -- Regards, Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 Alameda Networks, Inc. | http://www.Alameda.net | Fax#: 510-521-5073 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 4 14: 2: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx.calweb.com (mx.calweb.com [209.210.251.13]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41EBB4006 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:01:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from staff.calweb.com (rdugaue@staff.calweb.com [209.210.251.15]) by mx.calweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17423 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:02:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:02:19 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Du Gaue To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: O/T: Foundry In-Reply-To: <20000204112959.B60735@PacHell.TelcoSucks.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > The cli interface wasn't well rated in anything I read while researching the > > ServerIrons. We went ahead and purchased the GUI for it. IMHO, anyone Which GUI are you referring too? I asked about this, and was told the web interface thing was the only thing available, which we already had. Since we 100% Cisco in our routers, the CLI on the Foundry was so much like Cisco CLI that it worked fine for us. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Du Gaue - rdugaue@calweb.com http://www.calweb.com CalWeb Internet Services Inc. (916) 641-9320 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 4 14:43:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (dynamic-32.max4-du-ws.dialnetwork.pavilion.co.uk [212.74.9.160]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83BB041AE for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:43:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA59603; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 22:43:33 GMT (envelope-from brian@lan.awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03548; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 09:23:03 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200002040923.JAA03548@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Haider Roland Cc: "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" , brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: PPP over Ethernet, the Server-Side? In-Reply-To: Message from Haider Roland of "Thu, 03 Feb 2000 10:24:40 +0100." <1F879C64A1A7D211B0F10004AC4C07FC119CDF@OFFICE1_LIWEST> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 09:23:03 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi, > we are a xDSL provider, that is granting its customers > the luxury of manualy entered static IP-addresses. > > However administrating static routes is impossibile and > dynamic is a problem due to abuse. > In many cases only because of the incompetence of > "network-consultants" our customers hire. > > So to reduce troubleshooting time we want to implement > some authentication system. > Therefore the question: > Has anybody expirience with such a configuration > and is willing to share it with me? No - I'm afraid I've no practical experience anyway. > What software/hardware for PPPoE is capeable of > handling full FastEthernet speed? ppp(8) w/ netgraph(4) is available in -stable and -current. I'm not sure what you man by fast ethernet though. It can easily handle 10Mbit, but I'd estimate you'll only manage about 60Mbits tops with user-ppp on a 700Mhz machine without compression (although of course your throughput should multiply linearly if you use SMP). This will increase somewhat when I (finally) squeeze more of ppp(8) into the kernel, but then I'll be faced with the problem of what to call it... user-ppp will be just wrong :-( > Thanks in advance, > > Roland -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 4 14:55:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-01.neosoft.com (smtp-01.neosoft.com [206.109.1.19]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D49E93FA6 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:55:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 26804 invoked by uid 101); 4 Feb 2000 22:56:06 -0000 Received: from digital-01-66.hou.neosoft.com (HELO mobster1) (206.109.29.66) by smtp-01.neosoft.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2000 22:56:06 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Mobeen Azhar" To: Subject: PAM and FBSD Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:56:06 -0600 Message-ID: <002201bf6f63$051c7620$9ef105ab@TexasCommerce.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, we have a network consisting of Novell NetWare, Windows NT, and FreeBSD boxes. Most of our user accounts are maintained in Novell's NetWare using NDS. We are able to integrate Windows NT user accounts into Novell's NDS using Novell's NDS4NT product. I would like for a way to use the user securioty credentials stored in NDS for FBSD, instead of having to maintain different user accounts and passwords in NDS and FBSD. I have LDAP server services running on the NetWare server, which can provide LDAP services for FBSD. Is there a way to have FBSD use an LDAP server instead of it's built-in user security mechanism? Perhaps a PAM based LDAP solution? Thanks in advance for your help, --Moby To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 4 18:31:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from vinyl.sentex.ca (vinyl.sentex.ca [209.112.4.14]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6CDB437A for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 18:31:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite-atm.sentex.ca [209.112.4.1]) by vinyl.sentex.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA44489; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 21:31:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp.simianscience.com (ospf-mdt.sentex.net [205.211.164.81]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA09356; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 21:31:58 -0500 (EST) From: mike@sentex.net (Mike Tancsa) To: jay@oneway.com (Jay Kuri) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: route configuration question Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 02:31:01 GMT Message-ID: <389b8acd.684345687@mail.sentex.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 3 Feb 2000 22:23:07 -0500, in sentex.lists.freebsd.isp you wrote: >If routed is not the right thing to use, does anyone have any suggestions? A fairly straight forward solution would be to have your upstreams send 0.0.0.0/0 via bgp to you. Then import one with a higher preference than the other. gateD or Zebra or mrtd are your friends for this. ---Mike Mike Tancsa (mdtancsa@sentex.net) Sentex Communications Corp, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada "Given enough time, 100 monkeys on 100 routers could setup a national IP network." (KDW2) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 5 4:51:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host1.premier-hosting.com (host1.premier-hosting.com [206.47.86.2]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66BF04494 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 04:51:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from premier-networks.com (ppp171.premier-dialup.com [206.47.86.171]) by host1.premier-hosting.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA33997 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 07:52:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <389C1BAD.DE80205@premier-networks.com> Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 07:46:37 -0500 From: paul@premier-networks.com Organization: Premier Networks X-Sender: "" <@host1.premier-hosting.com> (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD -Premier (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: mod_perl compile error Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there.. just compiling mod_perl 1.21 into a apache 1.3.11 fresh distribution... Get one error which fails.. Failed Test Status Wstat Total Fail Failed List of failed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- modules/cgi.t 5 1 20.00% 4 Anyone know why this is happening? FreeBSD 3.4 Thanks, Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 5 6:53: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host1.premier-hosting.com (host1.premier-hosting.com [206.47.86.2]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954F6439C for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 06:53:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from premier-networks.com (ppp171.premier-dialup.com [206.47.86.171]) by host1.premier-hosting.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA66888 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 09:53:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <389C380B.6B7E8C8D@premier-networks.com> Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 09:47:39 -0500 From: paul@premier-networks.com Organization: Premier Networks X-Sender: "" <@host1.premier-hosting.com> (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD -Premier (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Port Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there.. Does anyone have a port of Apache 1.3.11 with Frontpage 2000, Modsql, ModSSL, and ModPerl built by chance? Will save me a lot of time if someone already has it done..;) Thanks, Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 6 15:23:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from arnold.neland.dk (79.ppp1-30.image.dk [212.54.92.79]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4FA33EFC for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 15:23:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA26653 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:23:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:23:48 +0100 (CET) From: Leif Neland To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: webbased vacation-program. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm looking for a vacation-type program with a web-interface, so users themselves can control it. Any pointers? It might even be a webmin-plugin... Actually, I still have a few Linux-boxes it have to run on also, so a port of vacation.c to Linux could be usefull too. I could allways use the script from procmailex, I guess... Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 6 16:40: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9E33EC7; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 16:39:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09251; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:40:28 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) Received: from disc-4-161.aipo.gov.au(10.0.4.161) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma009225; Mon, 7 Feb 00 11:40:20 +1100 Received: from localhost (anwsmh@localhost) by stan (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07002; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:40:44 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) X-Authentication-Warning: stan: anwsmh owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:40:43 +1100 (EST) From: Stanley Hopcroft X-Sender: anwsmh@stan To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Cc: FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.org Subject: Performance of FreeBSD and MS Windows. What about select() and memory management etc ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, I am writing to ask about the relative performance of FreeBSD and MS Windows 95 and NT as desktop and server. This letter is inspired by my own experience of FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE and Win 95 OSR2 as a desktop on the same hardware (P5 166MHz, slow IDE, 32 MB RAM) and ariticles about Intel Unix (Linux) in magazines. My experience with FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE (kde 1.1.2, Communicator 4.7, Metaframe, pine etc) as a desktop is that it seems to thrash more than OSR2. I think this is because Netscape wants to have 20 or MB of memory. In "Windows NT magazine" (May 1999), an article "Linux and the Enterprise: is this OS ready for prime time" by Mark Russinovich, compares the network performance of NT and Linux (or other Posix 1 compliant OS) unfavourably on the basis that select() does not scale, or perform as well as the non- standard system call that MS provides and the author claims is implemented on other high performance Unix platforms. The same author in another article claims that the VM system of Unix also fails to provide the facilities or performance of the MS system. He claims his conclusions are based on his inspection of the Linux kernel, and I presume, what MS claim about their kernel. I probably would attach no significance to these articles because the claims are not possible for me to substantiate, but I would like to see some rebuttal from those able to do so. If there are other any public analysis of the two systems, I would like to hear about them. I don't think it reasonable that these claims of superior MS Windows performance and technology go unchallenged if in fact they are untrue. As for me, I will show more interest in the incredibly high performace and sophistication of MS Windows when the products are more usable (as servers) and available - in any thing other than a file server role. Thank you, Yours sincerely. Stanley Hopcroft Network Specialist IP Australia +61 2 6283 3189 +61 2 6281 1353 FAX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 6 17:12:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2EAD3E91; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 17:12:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id LAA24426; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:42:39 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 11:42:38 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Stanley Hopcroft Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Performance of FreeBSD and MS Windows. What about select() and memory management etc ? Message-ID: <20000207114238.G22697@freebie.lemis.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday, 7 February 2000 at 11:40:43 +1100, Stanley Hopcroft wrote: > Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, > > I am writing to ask about the relative performance of FreeBSD and MS > Windows 95 and NT as desktop and server. > > This letter is inspired by my own experience of FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE and > Win 95 OSR2 as a desktop on the same hardware (P5 166MHz, slow IDE, 32 > MB RAM) and ariticles about Intel Unix (Linux) in magazines. > > My experience with FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE (kde 1.1.2, Communicator 4.7, > Metaframe, pine etc) as a desktop is that it seems to thrash more > than OSR2. I think this is because Netscape wants to have 20 or MB of > memory. This is certainly the only case I have heard of where somebody has found FreeBSD's performance lacking in comparison with Microsoft. > In "Windows NT magazine" (May 1999), an article "Linux and the > Enterprise: is this OS ready for prime time" by Mark Russinovich, > compares the network performance of NT and Linux (or other Posix 1 > compliant OS) unfavourably on the basis that select() does not > scale, It's true that select() doesn't scale well, but I haven't seen any evidence that Microsoft's performance can reach the levels where it starts to become critical under UNIX. I'm certain that it has nothing to do with the problems you're experiencing. > or perform as well as the non-standard system call that MS provides > and the author claims is implemented on other high performance Unix > platforms. There's certainly no one system call which replaces select(). The ones I have seen appear to have nothing to do with Microsoft. > The same author in another article claims that the VM system of Unix > also fails to provide the facilities or performance of the MS > system. That's correct. What I've heard of is that the Microsoft NT VM system is very primitive, and that it gets thoroughly confused with higher loads. It's not impossible that it has been completely rewritten for "Windows 2000", however. > He claims his conclusions are based on his inspection of the Linux > kernel, and I presume, what MS claim about their kernel. The Linux VM system isn't the world's best, nor the best thing about Linux. But he would have to come up with some very strong arguments to make me even take his argumentation seriously. Getting back to your own experience: by default, FreeBSD doesn't do DMA on IDE drives. It's possible that the perceived performance would be much better with DMA. In addition, kde is a known memory hog. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 6 17:29:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (tunnel0-velvet-brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E17743DF3 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 17:29:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA23566 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:29:57 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:29:54 +1100 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Performance of FreeBSD and MS Windows. What about select() and memory management etc ? In-Reply-To: <20000207114238.G22697@freebie.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Monday, 7 February 2000 at 11:40:43 +1100, Stanley Hopcroft wrote: [...] > Getting back to your own experience: by default, FreeBSD doesn't do > DMA on IDE drives. It's possible that the perceived performance would > be much better with DMA. In addition, kde is a known memory hog. Hi Greg, Do you know of any pointers to increasing the performance (in general) of FreeBSD's IDE drivers by tweaking the kernel settings? A related story: I have a 1Gb drive which came to me marked "faulty", but I ended up putting it into a FreeBSD machine and it has worked flawlessly for the last 18 months. I recently put it into a Win95 machine and it's been gradually corrupted to the point where the file system is almost unusable. If I only used Windows I'd probably also be considering it faulty. I'm guessing it's because FreeBSD is more conservative (by default) with IDE settings/features so it's being more gentle on the drive. Windows is trying to automagically milk every last bit of performance out of it so that's why it is failing. Time to put it back into a FreeBSD box methinks. :-) Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ Sensation Internet Services http://www.sensation.net.au/ Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 6 17:39:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B5D03EFA for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 17:38:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id MAA24686; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:08:02 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:08:02 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Rowan Crowe Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Performance of FreeBSD and MS Windows. What about select() and memory management etc ? Message-ID: <20000207120802.K22697@freebie.lemis.com> References: <20000207114238.G22697@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday, 7 February 2000 at 12:29:54 +1100, Rowan Crowe wrote: > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> On Monday, 7 February 2000 at 11:40:43 +1100, Stanley Hopcroft wrote: > > [...] > >> Getting back to your own experience: by default, FreeBSD doesn't do >> DMA on IDE drives. It's possible that the perceived performance would >> be much better with DMA. In addition, kde is a known memory hog. > > Do you know of any pointers to increasing the performance (in general) of > FreeBSD's IDE drivers by tweaking the kernel settings? There's not too much else you can do, apart from setting DMA and maximum transfer length. Note that the current driver is going away. Even the upcoming 4.0 release will have the new driver, at, which should be a lot better. In particular, there's a known problem with the wd (old) driver with partitions over 27 GB in size. These *must* be run in LBA mode. See wd(4) for more details. > A related story: > > I have a 1Gb drive which came to me marked "faulty", but I ended up > putting it into a FreeBSD machine and it has worked flawlessly for the > last 18 months. I recently put it into a Win95 machine and it's been > gradually corrupted to the point where the file system is almost unusable. > If I only used Windows I'd probably also be considering it faulty. > > I'm guessing it's because FreeBSD is more conservative (by default) with > IDE settings/features so it's being more gentle on the drive. Windows is > trying to automagically milk every last bit of performance out of it so > that's why it is failing. That's one possibility. It's also very possible that, if you ran DMA on it, you might end up with the same kind of problem. While testing the new at driver, we discovered that it would refuse to run DMA on a number of drives which the wd driver accepted quite happily. We're still not completely sure that this isn't a problem with the new driver, but what we've seen points towards problems with the drives themselves. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 6 18:17:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E0A3EC7; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 18:17:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14648; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 13:17:44 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) Received: from disc-4-161.aipo.gov.au(10.0.4.161) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma014642; Mon, 7 Feb 00 13:17:37 +1100 Received: from localhost (anwsmh@localhost) by stan (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07088; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 13:18:01 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) X-Authentication-Warning: stan: anwsmh owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 13:17:59 +1100 (EST) From: Stanley Hopcroft X-Sender: anwsmh@stan To: Grog@Lemis.COM Cc: FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD and MS Windows performance Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Sir, I am writing to thank you for your letter and say that my letter poorly expressed two observations :- 1 My experience that FreeBSD and MS Windows as a desktop are about the same from a performance point of view. (Usability on the other hand is another story. I find FreeBSD a much more usable system (eg Pine rather than Lotus Notes etc)). Thanks for telling me about kde sucking up most of my memory and that the FreeBSD wd driver - which does seem slow on this box. I thought it was a slow Seagate disk wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): - doesn't do DMA. 2 That there are claims that NT performs better than Intel Unix (specifically Linux) because 2.1 the Linux VM system is "worse" than NTs 2.2 the Linux network API depends on select() and therefore it doesn't handle thousands or 10s of thousands of TCP connections, whereas there is an MS magic system call that handles tens of thousands of TCP connections and works faster too. Russinovich calls this MS feature "completion ports". He also claims (in the May article that talks about network performance. I don't know when the VM article was published other sometime last year) that . because the Linux threads do not do asynchronous IO they are less efficient than NTs threads. . because the Linux kernel does not provide re entrant read() and write calls, that NT - which does - outperforms it. . Linux lacks a "sendfile" system call to avoid reading something before sending it over a TCP connection, and therefore lags Linux which does. While he talks about TPC benchmarks that substantiate his claims that MS NT outperforms Linux , he does *not* quote any. Thank you, Yours sincerely. Stanley Hopcroft Network Specialist IP Australia +61 2 6283 3189 +61 2 6281 1353 FAX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 6 20:14:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from celery.dragondata.com (celery.dragondata.com [205.253.12.6]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB6C3ECF; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 20:14:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by celery.dragondata.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA88587; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 22:13:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from toasty) From: Kevin Day Message-Id: <200002070413.WAA88587@celery.dragondata.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD and MS Windows performance To: Stanley.Hopcroft@IPAustralia.Gov.AU (Stanley Hopcroft) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 22:13:23 -0600 (CST) Cc: Grog@Lemis.COM, FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Stanley Hopcroft" at Feb 07, 2000 01:17:59 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Thanks for telling me about kde sucking up most of my memory and that > the FreeBSD wd driver - which does seem slow on this box. I thought it > was a slow Seagate disk wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): - ST31276A> - doesn't do DMA. According to Seagate's web page, this is a rather slow drive. :) > 2.1 the Linux VM system is "worse" than NTs The general consensus is that FreeBSD's VM system is ahead of linux's. But, this isn't an easily quantifiable assertation. However, many linux applications run slightly faster on the same system through FreeBSD's linux emulation than they do on Linux. The VM system apparently coming into play here. I can personally vouch that for things like compiling(gcc) and graphic work, FreeBSD is faster than Linux for >me< on the same hardware. It works, so I haven't looked into why. :) > 2.2 the Linux network API depends on select() and therefore it doesn't > handle thousands or 10s of thousands of TCP connections, whereas there > is an MS magic system call that handles tens of thousands of TCP > connections and works faster too. > > Russinovich calls this MS feature "completion ports". I'm not sure how Windows does this, but I agree select() is inefficient in heavy use cases. If you're planning something this big, you might see quite a speed improvement by having several processes running, splitting up the load a bit. Hitting a blocked syscall will have less of a disasterous effect if you do. > He also claims (in the May article that talks about network > performance. I don't know when the VM article was published other > sometime last year) that > > . because the Linux threads do not do asynchronous IO they are less > efficient than NTs threads. > > . because the Linux kernel does not provide re entrant read() and write > calls, that NT - which does - outperforms it. I can't comment on either of these. > . Linux lacks a "sendfile" system call to avoid reading something > before sending it over a TCP connection, and therefore lags Linux which > does. FreeBSD does have a sendfile syscall. It's performance compared to Windows' implementation is unknown to me. I know FreeBSD's is a zero-copy function, in many cases. > While he talks about TPC benchmarks that substantiate his claims that > MS NT outperforms Linux , he does *not* quote any. See the famous Mindcraft benchmarks, if you want to see one glaring example of Microsoft winning. > > Thank you, > > Yours sincerely. > > Stanley Hopcroft > Network Specialist > IP Australia Kevin Day To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 6 20:24: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from internal.mail.demon.net (internal.mail.demon.net [193.195.224.3]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9880D3EE2 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 20:23:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from fanf.eng.demon.net (fanf.eng.demon.net [195.11.55.89]) by internal.mail.demon.net with ESMTP id EAA28110; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 04:24:32 GMT Received: from fanf by fanf.eng.demon.net with local (Exim 3.12 #3) id 12Hfix-0009Rx-00; Mon, 07 Feb 2000 04:24:31 +0000 To: Stanley.Hopcroft@IPAustralia.Gov.AU From: Tony Finch Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and MS Windows performance In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 04:24:31 +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Stanley Hopcroft wrote: > >He also claims (in the May article that talks about network >performance. I don't know when the VM article was published other >sometime last year) that > >. because the Linux threads do not do asynchronous IO they are less >efficient than NTs threads. Linux's pthreads implementation does do async IO. >. because the Linux kernel does not provide re entrant read() and write >calls, that NT - which does - outperforms it. Linux's glibc has support for the POSIX aio_*() calls. >. Linux lacks a "sendfile" system call to avoid reading something >before sending it over a TCP connection, and therefore lags Linux which >does. Linux does have sendfile(). Tony. -- ** ** *** *** *** **** *** ******* *** *** **** *** **** *** *** * *** *** *** * *** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 6 23:30:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from blackbird.lonetree.com (blackbird.lonetree.com [207.141.55.3]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1CB3DD8; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 23:30:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from csocs.com [209.64.46.26] by blackbird.lonetree.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.00) id A48BB9F30144; Mon, 07 Feb 2000 00:30:19 -0700 Message-ID: <389E75C4.F5A004E7@csocs.com> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 00:35:32 -0700 From: "Jonathan C. Frazier" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stanley Hopcroft Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Performance of FreeBSD and MS Windows. What about select() and memorymanagement etc ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ok, this is so far off and out of line I don't even know where to begin to argue. So instead I'll give you a few examples and a resource and you can educate yourself. 1. Microsoft itself uses a combination of Solaris and Redhat machines to run their own network (web pages and mail included) 2. http://www.unix-vs-nt.org/kirch (read it, know it, love it, live it) 3. Microsoft admits it's poor performance and that it trails unixs.... http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB19980728S0004 4. Some of the largest and busiest sites on the net are run on FreeBSD itself...that says a lot... (ever hear of Yahoo, Cisco, Sony, Mercedes Benz, Yellow Cab, and even Microsoft) Check out these other companies that use Linux for day-to-day operations: http://www.m-tech.ab.ca/linux-biz/ 5. The hidden cost of NT: http://www.informationweek.com/692/92iuhid.htm 6. Big lies of NT: http://www.zdnet.com/pccomp/features/fea0797/nt/sub1.html The fact remains that Microsoft has been far behind in performance, stability and reliability for years. A smart business can not afford to depend on an NT for mission critical reliability. UNIX's have stood rock solid for over 30 years. We have servers running here on FreeBSD and Linux that have 3-4 years uptime. I've never seen a case that comes close with Microsoft. We can argue about system calls all day long, but when you put one up against the other, you'll see the difference. Benchtests can be used to argue anything and can be swayed and manipulated. They don't tell you much. With literally millions of dollars in advertising supporting Microsoft OS's, you won't hear too much unfavorable information about them. There's a reason for the popularity and it's not performance or stability, its advertising and market manipulation. The arguments will continue ad noisome long after all of us are in our graves. The arguments are the same, only the OS will change. Take it from me, or experiment yourself.....Run an NT, a Linux, and a BSD system back to back and see the order they die in.....see if MS's web server can stand up to Apache. I guarantee you MS will be the first to go down. And then after the fact you can compare prices...what each one cost, MS licensing fees, etc. I think you'll understand finally then what its all about. J.C. Frazier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 6 23:32:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A003E2C for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 23:32:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jon@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA06648; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 18:32:41 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 18:32:37 +1100 From: Jonathan Michaels To: Greg Lehey Cc: Rowan Crowe , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Performance of FreeBSD and MS Windows. What about select() and memory management etc ? Message-ID: <20000207183235.A6558@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Reply-To: jon@welearn.com.au Mail-Followup-To: Greg Lehey , Rowan Crowe , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000207114238.G22697@freebie.lemis.com> <20000207120802.K22697@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <20000207120802.K22697@freebie.lemis.com>; from Greg Lehey on Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 12:08:02PM +1030 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 12:08:02PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Monday, 7 February 2000 at 12:29:54 +1100, Rowan Crowe wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Greg Lehey wrote: > > > >> On Monday, 7 February 2000 at 11:40:43 +1100, Stanley Hopcroft wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >> Getting back to your own experience: by default, FreeBSD doesn't do > >> DMA on IDE drives. It's possible that the perceived performance would > >> be much better with DMA. In addition, kde is a known memory hog. > > > > Do you know of any pointers to increasing the performance (in general) of > > FreeBSD's IDE drivers by tweaking the kernel settings? > > There's not too much else you can do, apart from setting DMA and > maximum transfer length. Note that the current driver is going away. > Even the upcoming 4.0 release will have the new driver, at, which > should be a lot better. In particular, there's a known problem with > the wd (old) driver with partitions over 27 GB in size. These *must* > be run in LBA mode. See wd(4) for more details. by way of similar path .. would it be possible to marry acouple of ide (9 Gb) drives into a vinum styled single "drive", and then to integrate the following logical array ? would it be possible to make up a big drive array from a couple of 2 Gb ide drives and a couple of 1 Gb scsi2 drives. what sort of perforrmance issues. compatability issues would i have to look at. your thoughts would be appreciated. i'm aggregating old computers and sloughing the junk. warm regards jonathan -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 7 4:45:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proxy.pomonet.bg (proxy.pomonet.bg [212.56.4.83]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4ED873EA3 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 04:45:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3582 invoked by uid 100); 7 Feb 2000 12:34:26 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Feb 2000 12:34:26 -0000 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:34:26 +0200 (EET) From: George Kamov To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: PMvision Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi there where can i donload PMvision from ??? George Kamov gogo@pomonet.bg www.pomonet.bg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 7 4:54:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.interact.se (smtp1.interact.se [193.15.98.9]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F253F64 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 04:54:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from wolfie.interact.se (wolfie.interact.se [193.15.98.202]) by smtp.interact.se (InterACT Mailer) with ESMTP id NAA10801; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 13:58:11 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 13:54:06 +0100 (CET) From: Jonas Eriksson X-Sender: je@localhost To: George Kamov Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PMvision In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://www.livingston.com/forms/one-click-dnload.cgi Regards Jonas Eriksson -- InterACT Lule=E5 Network & Security Administrator Tel: +46 (0)920 88803 - Fax: +46 (0)920 88399 Current temp in Lulea/Sweden is -0.4C (31.3F) On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, George Kamov wrote: >Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:34:26 +0200 (EET) >From: George Kamov >To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: PMvision > > >hi there > >where can i donload PMvision from ??? > >George Kamov >gogo@pomonet.bg >www.pomonet.bg > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 7 7:29:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from richard2.pil.net (richard2.pil.net [207.8.164.9]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD80C3EF6 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 07:29:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 27247 invoked by uid 1825); 7 Feb 2000 15:29:46 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Feb 2000 15:29:46 -0000 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:29:46 -0500 (EST) From: X-Sender: up@richard2.pil.net To: FreeBSD ISP List Subject: ISO Images? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What's the availability deal with ISO images for -current? the directory ftp://current.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO/i386/ is empty, and there doesn't appear to be anything at ftp.freebsd.org, either. TIA, James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 7 9:58:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hydrant.intranova.net (hydrant.intranova.net [209.201.95.10]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C0CE3F7E for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 09:58:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17567 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2000 17:52:10 -0000 Received: from localhost (user55492@127.0.0.1) by missnglnk.wants.to-fuck.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 2000 17:52:10 -0000 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:52:10 -0500 (EST) From: Omachonu Ogali To: up@3.am Cc: FreeBSD ISP List Subject: Re: ISO Images? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/ Omachonu Ogali Intranova Networking Group On Mon, 7 Feb 2000 up@3.am wrote: > > What's the availability deal with ISO images for -current? the directory > ftp://current.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO/i386/ is empty, and there > doesn't appear to be anything at ftp.freebsd.org, either. > > TIA, > > James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor > up@3.am http://3.am > ========================================================================= > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 7 10:13:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from richard2.pil.net (richard2.pil.net [207.8.164.9]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D3DD43F2F for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:13:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 50114 invoked by uid 1825); 7 Feb 2000 18:08:46 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Feb 2000 18:08:46 -0000 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 13:08:46 -0500 (EST) From: X-Sender: up@richard2.pil.net To: Omachonu Ogali Cc: FreeBSD ISP List Subject: Re: ISO Images? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Omachonu Ogali wrote: > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/ > thanks for the pointer. I just realized I had said I was looking for an ISO image of -current when I meant I was looking for an ISO image of -stable. In any case, it appears that they only put ISO images of -release on the ftp site. > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000 up@3.am wrote: > > > > > What's the availability deal with ISO images for -current? the directory > > ftp://current.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO/i386/ is empty, and there > > doesn't appear to be anything at ftp.freebsd.org, either. > > > > TIA, > > > > James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor > > up@3.am http://3.am > > ========================================================================= > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 7 14:42:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx2.x-treme.gr (mx2.x-treme.gr [212.120.192.15]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FEFA4096; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:41:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (pat35.x-treme.gr [212.120.197.227]) by mx2.x-treme.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3/IPNG-ADV-ANTISPAM-0.1) with ESMTP id AAA31189; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 00:42:22 +0200 Received: by hades.hell.gr (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2BB3868DA3; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 23:55:05 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 23:55:05 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Stanley Hopcroft Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Performance of FreeBSD and MS Windows. What about select() and memory management etc ? Message-ID: <20000207235505.B8424@hades.hell.gr> Reply-To: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from Stanley.Hopcroft@IPAustralia.Gov.AU on Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 11:40:43AM +1100 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 62 45 D1 C9 26 F9 95 06 D6 21 2A C8 8C 16 C0 8E X-Phone-Number: +30-94-6203692, +30-93-2886457 X-Address: Theodorou Kirinaiou 61, 26334 Patra, Greece Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 11:40:43AM +1100, Stanley Hopcroft wrote: > > I am writing to ask about the relative performance of FreeBSD and MS > Windows 95 and NT as desktop and server. > > This letter is inspired by my own experience of FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE > and Win 95 OSR2 as a desktop on the same hardware (P5 166MHz, slow > IDE, 32 MB RAM) and ariticles about Intel Unix (Linux) in magazines. So, to keep ourselves from making a *huge* mistake here, taking the observations below as objective, this is about personal experience. It's a good thing you're using a given hardware setup for making the comparisons below. However, the "facts" shown below should be taken as nothing more than they really are, that is... your own experience. Thank you Stanley for clarifying this in the VERY first place, before making *any* observation at all. > My experience with FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE (kde 1.1.2, Communicator 4.7, > Metaframe, pine etc) as a desktop is that it seems to thrash more > than OSR2. I think this is because Netscape wants to have 20 or MB of > memory. I would certainly love to hear more about this thrashing you're referring to. It might be because of my lack of luck, or because of a weird combination of circumstances, but I haven't actually managed to make my FreeBSD workstation thrash, and my setup is similar to yours, alas even worse (P5 133 MHz, 32 Mb EDO RAM). > In "Windows NT magazine" (May 1999), an article "Linux and the > Enterprise: is this OS ready for prime time" by Mark Russinovich, > compares the network performance of NT and Linux (or other Posix 1 > compliant OS) unfavourably on the basis that select() does not scale, > or perform as well as the non- standard system call that MS provides > and the author claims is implemented on other high performance Unix > platforms. Is this article available on the Web anywhere? One thing is that, I would be interested to see the actual data of this comparison. The other, probably more important, thing is that this article is comparing _Linux_ to Windows NT. It might seem a bit irrelevant, but FreeBSD has nothing to do with Linux, neither in terms of source, nor in terms of stability, robustness, etc. I have yet to see a Linux server that can handle a lot more than 500-1000 simultaneous connections; but there a few FreeBSd installations that can serve several thousand of connections simultaneously, with ftp.cdrom.com and www.yahoo.com being among the most prominent ones. What is more interesting in that article is that it seems to favour the "non-standard" Microsoft system calls, which are, well, non-standard. There is nothing wrong with making incompatible changes to something that has been considered "standard" for a long time, and the BSD-socket system calls are one of the aged standards we all know nowadays. However, if you want everyone to adopt and benefit from revolutionary ideas that break existing standards, it's better if you let those ideas open to everyone. I might be utterly wrong here, but I don't seem to have heard of any open extensions to BSD sockets announced by anyone, especially not Microsoft. > The same author in another article claims that the VM system of > Unix also fails to provide the facilities or performance of the MS > system. He claims his conclusions are based on his inspection of the > Linux kernel, and I presume, what MS claim about their kernel. Generalizations like using the word "Unix" to talk about a whole family of operating systems are nice, but they can also result in misleading statements and conclusions. As far as I know the VM subsystem of each operating system is quite different from one operating system to the other. Sometimes, even the same operating system has major changes on it's VM management among different versions. Now, the VM system of Linux is not "the best around the block", but it has one major advantage over the claims of anyone. The source that implements it is open to review by anyone with adequate knowledge of programming in C and a working knowledge of x86 assembler. I tend to believe more easily someone whose source code I can easily access, than anyone whose sentences start with "trust me". > As for me, I will show more interest in the incredibly high performace > and sophistication of MS Windows when the products are more usable (as > servers) and available - in any thing other than a file server role. On the machine setup that you have described, I would be tremendously indebted to know what one can do to achieve this incredibly high performance. Because, contrary to my own openness to hear other people's opinions, my own experience seems to indicate the opposite. I am always interested in hearing about facts accompanied with the appropriate amount of data. For instance, saying that Netscape takes a bit more to load in FreeBSD than Windows, might be a nice thing to know. A nicer thing to know however is the time that subsequent instances of Netscape take to load, or the memory footpring of each new instance. Oh, and that would probably mean nothing as far as performance is concerned, because Netscape is the last thing I would start running on a file server. I can think of better uses for the disk space of a file-server, quite better than storing Netscape's huge Motif-dependent binaries. -- Giorgos Keramidas, < keramida @ ceid . upatras . gr > For my public PGP key: finger keramida@diogenis.ceid.upatras.gr PGP fingerprint, phone and address in the headers of this message. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 7 21:41: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E826E4011; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:40:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12I3ND-00016r-00; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:39:39 -0800 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:39:37 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Stanley Hopcroft Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Performance of FreeBSD and MS Windows. What about select() and memory management etc ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Stanley Hopcroft wrote: ... > In "Windows NT magazine" (May 1999), an article "Linux and the > Enterprise: is this OS ready for prime time" by Mark Russinovich, > compares the network performance of NT and Linux (or other Posix 1 > compliant OS) unfavourably on the basis that select() does not scale, > or perform as well as the non- standard system call that MS provides > and the author claims is implemented on other high performance Unix > platforms. Does network performance depend on select() though? I don't think it does. Besides there are many different ways that select() is implemented, and many different ways an application could use it. MS people usually point at sendfile(), which can transmit files completely within the kernel. FreeBSD has this now, and so does Linux. > The same author in another article claims that the VM system of Unix > also fails to provide the facilities or performance of the MS > system. He claims his conclusions are based on his inspection of the > Linux kernel, and I presume, what MS claim about their kernel. Perhaps. But the Linux VM is its own thing. Any strengths or shortcomings it might have are different from other implementations. I recommend "UNIX Internals" by Uresh Vahalla. There was also a recent DaemonNews article about FreeBSD's particularly implementation and its strengths and weaknesses, and some comparisions with Linux. Anyone that points at something in Linux and declares it a weakness, and then by extension declares it a weakness of Unix, is dead wrong. > I probably would attach no significance to these articles because the > claims are not possible for me to substantiate, but I would like to see > some rebuttal from those able to do so. > > If there are other any public analysis of the two systems, I would like > to hear about them. > > I don't think it reasonable that these claims of superior MS Windows > performance and technology go unchallenged if in fact they are untrue. > > As for me, I will show more interest in the incredibly high performace > and sophistication of MS Windows when the products are more usable > (as servers) and available - in any thing other than a file server > role. > > Thank you, > > Yours sincerely. > > > Stanley Hopcroft > Network Specialist > IP Australia > > +61 2 6283 3189 > +61 2 6281 1353 FAX > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 8 5:55:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gate.saargate.de (gate.saargate.de [212.88.128.20]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA26B41C3 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 05:55:25 -0800 (PST) Message-id: Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 14:57:45 +0100 Subject: dhclient support for option ntp-servers To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: domi@saargate.de (domi) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there, is there any dhclient available that support the ntp-servers option of the isc-dhcpd? Or is it possible to support dhclient-script in order to do this? Yours, Dominik To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 8 8: 8:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE4E42AA; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 08:08:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12IDAm-0001fK-00; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 08:07:28 -0800 Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 08:07:26 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: "Jonathan C. Frazier" Cc: Stanley Hopcroft , FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Performance of FreeBSD and MS Windows. What about select() and memorymanagement etc ? In-Reply-To: <389E75C4.F5A004E7@csocs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jonathan C. Frazier wrote: > ok, this is so far off and out of line I don't even know where to begin to > argue. So instead I'll give you a few examples and a resource and you can > educate yourself. > > 1. Microsoft itself uses a combination of Solaris and Redhat machines to > run their own network (web pages and mail included) Uhhh... no. www.microsoft.com is a 110 Windows servers behind several load balancers. It looks like these use a DNS load balancer to front end the L3 load balancers. Microsoft has staff on-duty 24x7 keeping the thing running. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 8 8:20: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from chi1.nucleusconsulting.com (chi1.nucleusconsulting.com [207.250.168.11]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F75E4274; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 08:19:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from labntserver1.nucleusconsulting.com by chi1.nucleusconsulting.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1461.56) id DSZAY4DN; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 10:19:50 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000208102035.00844600@midwest.net> X-Sender: parrothd@midwest.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 10:20:35 -0600 To: Tom , "Jonathan C. Frazier" From: "Jonathan E. Lyons" Subject: Re: Performance of FreeBSD and MS Windows. What about select() and memorymanagement etc ? Cc: Stanley Hopcroft , FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <389E75C4.F5A004E7@csocs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ummm... I think he's talking about www.hotmail.com. Is it just me? Or do others get painful headaches when they go to www.microsoft.com, the site runs like crap, always slow, and you can never find anything easily, not to mention those stupid automated download/install programs!! At 08:07 AM 2/8/00 -0800, Tom wrote: > >On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jonathan C. Frazier wrote: > >> ok, this is so far off and out of line I don't even know where to begin to >> argue. So instead I'll give you a few examples and a resource and you can >> educate yourself. >> >> 1. Microsoft itself uses a combination of Solaris and Redhat machines to >> run their own network (web pages and mail included) > > Uhhh... no. www.microsoft.com is a 110 Windows servers behind several >load balancers. It looks like these use a DNS load balancer to front end >the L3 load balancers. Microsoft has staff on-duty 24x7 keeping the >thing running. > > >Tom > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > Jonathan E. Lyons parrothd@midwest.net Nucleus Consulting ICQ # 14226912 www.nucleusconsulting.com Cell # 773-251-1967 A+, MCSE, CCNA, FreeBSD! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 8 9:39:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from boris.netgate.net (boris2.netgate.net [204.145.147.155]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FBD3DD5 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:39:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (wellsian@localhost) by boris.netgate.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA66960 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:38:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwells@caffeine.com) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:38:18 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Wells X-Sender: wellsian@boris.netgate.net To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Mail Mgrs? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm looking for a good free/cheapware webmail system for a non-profit site. I've been out of the cgi-goodie loop for too long and haven't found anything yet after a few searches. Still, I would be surprised if something doesn't exist. The functionality I'm looking for would be like a mini hotmail. Pieces of the puzzle would be fine, like signup and address control, etc. It's going on a freebsd box. Thanks in advance for any pointers. Thanks, Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 8 9:43:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from master.crimea.net (Master.crimea.net [212.3.116.70]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A0AA4345 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:43:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1835 invoked by uid 100); 8 Feb 2000 17:43:10 -0000 Message-ID: <20000208174310.1834.qmail@master.crimea.net> From: artz@crimea.net Subject: Re: Mail Mgrs? In-Reply-To: from "Dave Wells" at "Feb 8, 2000 9:38:18 am" To: dwells@caffeine.com (Dave Wells) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 19:43:10 +0200 (EET) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Reply-To: artz@crimea.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try TWIG from http://twig.screwdriver.net > I'm looking for a good free/cheapware webmail system for a non-profit > site. I've been out of the cgi-goodie loop for too long and haven't found > anything yet after a few searches. Still, I would be surprised if > something doesn't exist. The functionality I'm looking for would be like a > mini hotmail. Pieces of the puzzle would be fine, like signup and address > control, etc. It's going on a freebsd box. Thanks in advance for any > pointers. > > Thanks, > Dave > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 8 9:47: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from portjeff.net (mail.portjeff.net [207.198.250.4]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1455C421F for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:46:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from portjeff.net [24.129.126.78] by portjeff.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.00) id A71C12530104; Tue, 08 Feb 2000 12:49:16 -0500 Message-ID: <38A05492.FA64E82@portjeff.net> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 12:38:26 -0500 From: Paul Dlug X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Wells Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mail Mgrs? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org MailMan from Enymion is free for non commerical use if I remember correctly... http://www.endymion.com/ IMP as an open source PHP/IMAP based solution http://www.horde.org/imp/ (I'm not sure of it's current status or features) Hope this helps --Paul Dave Wells wrote: > I'm looking for a good free/cheapware webmail system for a non-profit > site. I've been out of the cgi-goodie loop for too long and haven't found > anything yet after a few searches. Still, I would be surprised if > something doesn't exist. The functionality I'm looking for would be like a > mini hotmail. Pieces of the puzzle would be fine, like signup and address > control, etc. It's going on a freebsd box. Thanks in advance for any > pointers. > > Thanks, > Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 8 10:17:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from heaven.gigo.com (heaven.gigo.com [209.0.55.69]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81042438E for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 10:17:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by heaven.gigo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E709C5888; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 10:18:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 10:18:29 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Fesler To: Dave Wells Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mail Mgrs? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm looking for a good free/cheapware webmail system for a non-profit > site. I've been out of the cgi-goodie loop for too long and haven't found > anything yet after a few searches. Still, I would be surprised if > something doesn't exist. The functionality I'm looking for would be like a > mini hotmail. Pieces of the puzzle would be fine, like signup and address > control, etc. It's going on a freebsd box. Thanks in advance for any > pointers. cyrus for storing pop3/imap [for speed reasons, mbox format is too slow], combined with an imap frontend like IHMO and the Roxen web server, or any of the PHP mail frontends for apache. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 8 13:27:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from boris.netgate.net (boris2.netgate.net [204.145.147.155]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 088513EAB for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:10:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (wellsian@localhost) by boris.netgate.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA70656 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:05:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwells@caffeine.com) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:05:27 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Wells X-Sender: wellsian@boris.netgate.net To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mail Mgrs? In-Reply-To: <200002082100.NAA16022@mail.workofstone.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wow, thanks everyone! Out of all those I'd only bumped into a couple pieces before. Good stuff. I think I have enough reading material for at least one night. :) -Dave On Tue, 8 Feb 2000 schluntz@timberwolf.workofstone.net wrote: > ells writes: > >I'm looking for a good free/cheapware webmail system for a non-profit > >site. I've been out of the cgi-goodie loop for too long and haven't found > >anything yet after a few searches. Still, I would be surprised if > >something doesn't exist. The functionality I'm looking for would be like a > >mini hotmail. Pieces of the puzzle would be fine, like signup and address > >control, etc. It's going on a freebsd box. Thanks in advance for any > >pointers. > > Actually, here is a place you can find reviews on them (thanks to who ever put up the TWIG ref.) > > http://www.cru.fr/http-mail/ > > -Sean > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 8 14:18:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.workofstone.net (w121.z208177130.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.177.130.121]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850074379 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:35:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from timberwolf (c956029-a.haywd2.sfba.home.com [24.0.78.216]) by mail.workofstone.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16022; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:00:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200002082100.NAA16022@mail.workofstone.net> To: Dave Wells , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mail Mgrs? Reply-To: "Sean J. Schluntz" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 08 Feb 2000 09:38:18 PST." Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 12:59:04 -0800 From: schluntz@timberwolf.workofstone.net Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ells writes: >I'm looking for a good free/cheapware webmail system for a non-profit >site. I've been out of the cgi-goodie loop for too long and haven't found >anything yet after a few searches. Still, I would be surprised if >something doesn't exist. The functionality I'm looking for would be like a >mini hotmail. Pieces of the puzzle would be fine, like signup and address >control, etc. It's going on a freebsd box. Thanks in advance for any >pointers. Actually, here is a place you can find reviews on them (thanks to who ever put up the TWIG ref.) http://www.cru.fr/http-mail/ -Sean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 8 14:24:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.workofstone.net (w121.z208177130.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.177.130.121]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4823437F for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:35:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from timberwolf (c956029-a.haywd2.sfba.home.com [24.0.78.216]) by mail.workofstone.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15959; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 12:55:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200002082055.MAA15959@mail.workofstone.net> To: Dave Wells , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mail Mgrs? Reply-To: "Sean J. Schluntz" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 08 Feb 2000 09:38:18 PST." Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 12:53:25 -0800 From: schluntz@timberwolf.workofstone.net Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message , Dave W ells writes: >I'm looking for a good free/cheapware webmail system for a non-profit >site. I've been out of the cgi-goodie loop for too long and haven't found >anything yet after a few searches. Still, I would be surprised if >something doesn't exist. The functionality I'm looking for would be like a >mini hotmail. Pieces of the puzzle would be fine, like signup and address >control, etc. It's going on a freebsd box. Thanks in advance for any >pointers. You could take a look at AtDot, I havn't used it yet but have heard some good things about it. http://www.atdot.org/ -Sean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 8 15:24:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.sol.net (mail1.sol.net [206.55.64.72]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 312494309 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 15:07:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from aurora.sol.net (jgreco@aurora.sol.net [206.55.65.76]) by mail1.sol.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/SNNS-1.03) with ESMTP id QAA18377 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 16:05:03 -0600 (CST) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by aurora.sol.net (8.9.2/8.9.2/SNNS-1.02) id PAA70085; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 15:59:57 -0600 (CST) From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <200002082159.PAA70085@aurora.sol.net> Subject: Re: O/T: Foundry To: mholloway@flashmail.com, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 15:59:56 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Does anyone here use Foundry switches in your ISP service? How do you = > like them? I'm migrating away from 3Com and I'm looking at Foundry, = > Cisco, and Extreme. For something a little more on topic, Foundry does = > have some nice server load balancing features..so if you're running = > FreeBSD based server farms, I guess it would be a nice add-on! The last Foundry product I saw had some serious filtering deficiencies. I know lots of people aren't paranoid enough to actually do router-level filtering, but that's something that I consider. The ability to do per-port filters is a necessity, and I believe the Foundry stuff can't do it. ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 8 15:41: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from arnold.neland.dk (mail.neland.dk [194.255.12.232]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D24467A for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 15:11:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.0.14]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA33935 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 00:11:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <001901bf7289$cdc21d40$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Reply-To: "Leif Neland" From: "Leif Neland" To: Subject: Secure dynamic dns updates Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 00:10:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can somebody explain, or point to an example of using the -k key option = to nsupdate? I need to be able to update the dns from whatever IP i get, but do not = want to open access for whatever ip I might possibly get. I control the named 8.2.2-P5 which is primary for my domain. Leif Neland To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 8 16:52:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from richard2.pil.net (richard2.pil.net [207.8.164.9]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DEEEA4357 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:53:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 2475 invoked by uid 1825); 8 Feb 2000 21:50:06 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Feb 2000 21:50:06 -0000 Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 16:50:06 -0500 (EST) From: X-Sender: up@richard2.pil.net To: Dave Wells Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mail Mgrs? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Dave Wells wrote: > I'm looking for a good free/cheapware webmail system for a non-profit > site. I've been out of the cgi-goodie loop for too long and haven't found > anything yet after a few searches. Still, I would be surprised if > something doesn't exist. The functionality I'm looking for would be like a > mini hotmail. Pieces of the puzzle would be fine, like signup and address > control, etc. It's going on a freebsd box. Thanks in advance for any > pointers. If you wantto run qmail as yor MTA, look at sqwebmail: http://www.inter7.com Many, many times better and faster than Mailman... James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 8 21:50: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A047042FB for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 16:21:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id KAA41475; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:51:42 +1030 (CST) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:51:41 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Rowan Crowe , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: vinum (was: Performance of FreeBSD and MS Windows. What about select() and memory management etc ?) Message-ID: <20000209105141.A41453@freebie.lemis.com> References: <20000207114238.G22697@freebie.lemis.com> <20000207120802.K22697@freebie.lemis.com> <20000207183235.A6558@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <20000207183235.A6558@phoenix.welearn.com.au> WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday, 7 February 2000 at 18:32:37 +1100, Jonathan Michaels wrote: > On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 12:08:02PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: >> On Monday, 7 February 2000 at 12:29:54 +1100, Rowan Crowe wrote: >>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Greg Lehey wrote: >>> >>>> On Monday, 7 February 2000 at 11:40:43 +1100, Stanley Hopcroft wrote: >>> >>> [...] >>> >>>> Getting back to your own experience: by default, FreeBSD doesn't do >>>> DMA on IDE drives. It's possible that the perceived performance would >>>> be much better with DMA. In addition, kde is a known memory hog. >>> >>> Do you know of any pointers to increasing the performance (in general) of >>> FreeBSD's IDE drivers by tweaking the kernel settings? >> >> There's not too much else you can do, apart from setting DMA and >> maximum transfer length. Note that the current driver is going away. >> Even the upcoming 4.0 release will have the new driver, at, which >> should be a lot better. In particular, there's a known problem with >> the wd (old) driver with partitions over 27 GB in size. These *must* >> be run in LBA mode. See wd(4) for more details. > > > by way of similar path .. would it be possible to marry > acouple of ide (9 Gb) drives into a vinum styled single > "drive", and then to integrate the following logical array ? > > would it be possible to make up a big drive array from a > couple of 2 Gb ide drives and a couple of 1 Gb scsi2 drives. Yes. > what sort of perforrmance issues. compatability issues would i > have to look at. Many. Take a look at http://www.lemis.com/vinum.html for a start. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 8 22:26:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from arnold.neland.dk (5.ppp1-8.image.dk [212.54.76.133]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2002D4303 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 16:41:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.0.14]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA53850 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 01:40:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <001001bf7296$56a6dc20$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Reply-To: "Leif Neland" From: "Leif Neland" To: Subject: Secure dynamic dns updates Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 01:40:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Postfix@builder.freebsd.org returned this message; I'll try to resend = it... The Postfix program : Command time limit exceeded: "/home/majordomo/wrapper resend -l freebsd-isp". Command output: /home/majordomo/resend [683]: Getopts() done. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Leif Neland" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 12:10 AM Subject: Secure dynamic dns updates Can somebody explain, or point to an example of using the -k key option = to nsupdate? I need to be able to update the dns from whatever IP i get, but do not = want to open access for whatever ip I might possibly get. I control the named 8.2.2-P5 which is primary for my domain. Leif Neland - - - - - - -=20 Update: I did a "dnskeygen -H 512 -z -n neland.dk.", and pasted the key = into the zonefile, but got this error: Feb 9 00:38:10 arnold named[19841]: /etc/namedb/neland.dk.hosts:10: = Unknown Key algorithm error near (KkF/Rl3ugIUJjg ...... dnskeygen reports "Available algorithms are: HMAC-MD5" if I try to use = another algorithm than -H To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 9 1: 4:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33CF94419; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 22:47:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12IQra-0002Gk-00; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 22:44:34 -0800 Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 22:44:33 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Jonathan & Charmane Frazier Cc: "Jonathan E. Lyons" , "Jonathan C. Frazier" , Stanley Hopcroft , FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Performance of FreeBSD and MS Windows. What about select() andmemorymanagement etc ? In-Reply-To: <38A10370.E2250D1D@lonetree.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jonathan & Charmane Frazier wrote: > Nope, I am correct. Microsoft used Redhat for a long time for their web servers > also, not just hotmail. I'm not sure what they are running now, but you used to be > able to go to linus.microsoft.com and see the redhat/apache "successful > installation" page. I found it quite amusing to say the least. Solaris is being > used exclusively on hotmail, NT couldn't handle it. No you are wrong. Just because there is a Linux install somewhere within *.microsoft.com means very little. www.microsoft.com is NT, and always has been NT. That is a known fact. hotmail is not exclusively Solaris. They use a FreeBSD and Solaris mix. This is well known too, and Microsoft has stated this publicly several times. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 9 1: 8:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from blackbird.lonetree.com (blackbird.lonetree.com [207.141.55.3]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1CE6450B; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 21:56:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from lonetree.com [209.64.46.30] by blackbird.lonetree.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.00) id A12A6A80298; Tue, 08 Feb 2000 22:54:50 -0700 Message-ID: <38A10370.E2250D1D@lonetree.com> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 23:04:32 -0700 From: Jonathan & Charmane Frazier X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Cc: "Jonathan E. Lyons" , "Jonathan C. Frazier" , Stanley Hopcroft , FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Performance of FreeBSD and MS Windows. What about select() andmemorymanagement etc ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nope, I am correct. Microsoft used Redhat for a long time for their web servers also, not just hotmail. I'm not sure what they are running now, but you used to be able to go to linus.microsoft.com and see the redhat/apache "successful installation" page. I found it quite amusing to say the least. Solaris is being used exclusively on hotmail, NT couldn't handle it. Tom wrote: > > >> 1. Microsoft itself uses a combination of Solaris and Redhat machines to > > >> run their own network (web pages and mail included) > > > I think he's talking about www.hotmail.com. Is it just me? Or do others > > get painful headaches when they go to www.microsoft.com, the site runs like > > crap, always slow, and you can never find anything easily, not to mention > > those stupid automated download/install programs!! > > I don't think either. AFAIK, there are no RedHat systems on > hotmail.com. It is all FreeBSD and Solaris. Microsoft has recently > advertised for FreeBSD Admins to work at Hotmail. > > Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 9 1:13:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB3044915; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 21:03:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12IPD1-0002B5-00; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 20:58:35 -0800 Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 20:56:49 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: "Jonathan E. Lyons" Cc: "Jonathan C. Frazier" , Stanley Hopcroft , FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Performance of FreeBSD and MS Windows. What about select() and memorymanagement etc ? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20000208102035.00844600@midwest.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >> 1. Microsoft itself uses a combination of Solaris and Redhat machines to > >> run their own network (web pages and mail included) > I think he's talking about www.hotmail.com. Is it just me? Or do others > get painful headaches when they go to www.microsoft.com, the site runs like > crap, always slow, and you can never find anything easily, not to mention > those stupid automated download/install programs!! I don't think either. AFAIK, there are no RedHat systems on hotmail.com. It is all FreeBSD and Solaris. Microsoft has recently advertised for FreeBSD Admins to work at Hotmail. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 9 1:40:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from majestix.cmr.no (majestix.cmr.no [129.177.31.53]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186AB3EEF; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 01:40:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from shark.cmr.no (shark.cmr.no [129.177.31.34]) by majestix.cmr.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05385; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:37:12 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:37:12 +0100 (CET) From: Tom Lislegaard To: Tom Cc: Jonathan & Charmane Frazier , "Jonathan E. Lyons" , "Jonathan C. Frazier" , Stanley Hopcroft , FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Performance of FreeBSD and MS Windows. What about select() andmemorymanagement etc ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Tom wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jonathan & Charmane Frazier wrote: > > > Nope, I am correct. Microsoft used Redhat for a long time for their web servers > > also, not just hotmail. I'm not sure what they are running now, but you used to be > > able to go to linus.microsoft.com and see the redhat/apache "successful > > installation" page. I found it quite amusing to say the least. Solaris is being > > used exclusively on hotmail, NT couldn't handle it. > > No you are wrong. Just because there is a Linux install somewhere > within *.microsoft.com means very little. www.microsoft.com is NT, and > always has been NT. That is a known fact. > You're both wrong. I remember several years ago I telnet'ed into www.microsoft.com, and guess what it said - Welcome to BSDI ! -tom > hotmail is not exclusively Solaris. They use a FreeBSD and Solaris mix. > This is well known too, and Microsoft has stated this publicly several > times. > > Tom > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 9 1:55:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD43438E; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 01:54:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA22219; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 02:20:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 02:20:53 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Jonathan & Charmane Frazier Cc: Tom , "Jonathan E. Lyons" , "Jonathan C. Frazier" , Stanley Hopcroft , FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Performance of FreeBSD and MS Windows. What about select() andmemorymanagement etc ? Message-ID: <20000209022053.S17536@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <38A10370.E2250D1D@lonetree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <38A10370.E2250D1D@lonetree.com>; from sttng@lonetree.com on Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 11:04:32PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Jonathan & Charmane Frazier [000209 02:13] wrote: > Tom wrote: > > > > >> 1. Microsoft itself uses a combination of Solaris and Redhat machines to > > > >> run their own network (web pages and mail included) > > > > > I think he's talking about www.hotmail.com. Is it just me? Or do others > > > get painful headaches when they go to www.microsoft.com, the site runs like > > > crap, always slow, and you can never find anything easily, not to mention > > > those stupid automated download/install programs!! > > > > I don't think either. AFAIK, there are no RedHat systems on > > hotmail.com. It is all FreeBSD and Solaris. Microsoft has recently > > advertised for FreeBSD Admins to work at Hotmail. > > > > Tom > > Nope, I am correct. Microsoft used Redhat for a long time for > their web servers also, not just hotmail. I'm not sure what they > are running now, but you used to be able to go to linus.microsoft.com > and see the redhat/apache "successful installation" page. I > found it quite amusing to say the least. > > Solaris is being used exclusively on hotmail, NT couldn't handle > it. No, Hotmail uses FreeBSD _and_ Solaris for servers. I've heard of Linux being on some hotmail _desktops_, but never deployed as servers. Please see: http://www.microsoft.com/Jobs/bayarea/hotmail.htm do you see Linux anywhere? Also, can you please fix your mailer to wrap lines > 70 characters? thanks, -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 9 6:48: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dominik.saargate.de (dominik.saargate.de [212.88.133.252]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8FE3E93 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 06:47:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dominik.saargate.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA38516 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 15:44:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from domi@saargate.de) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 15:44:15 +0100 (CET) From: Dominik Brettnacher To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Arkeia Server under FreeBSD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has someone of you successfully tried to install the Arkeia Server under FreeBSDs Linux Emulation? Does it work properly? -- Dominik - http://www.saargate.de/~domi/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 9 7:42:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from s1.ds.net (s1.ds.net [207.239.204.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0553DFC; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 07:42:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from ds.net (i1p89.cmh-oh.ds.net [207.239.205.89]) by s1.ds.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04057; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:41:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38A18AAA.19D0BBD7@ds.net> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 10:41:30 -0500 From: "James A. Mutter" Reply-To: jmutter@ds.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.36 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Cc: Jonathan & Charmane Frazier , "Jonathan E. Lyons" , "Jonathan C. Frazier" , Stanley Hopcroft , FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Performance of FreeBSD and MS Windows. What about select() andmemorymanagement etc ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > Nope, I am correct. Microsoft used Redhat for a long time for their web servers > > also, not just hotmail. I'm not sure what they are running now, but you used to be > > able to go to linus.microsoft.com and see the redhat/apache "successful > > installation" page. I found it quite amusing to say the least. Solaris is being > > used exclusively on hotmail, NT couldn't handle it. > > No you are wrong. Just because there is a Linux install somewhere > within *.microsoft.com means very little. www.microsoft.com is NT, and > always has been NT. That is a known fact. > > hotmail is not exclusively Solaris. They use a FreeBSD and Solaris mix. > This is well known too, and Microsoft has stated this publicly several > times. For the non-believers in the crowd check out this link: http://www.netcraft.com/whats/?host=www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 9 13:14:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dominik.saargate.de (dominik.saargate.de [212.88.133.252]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B1903F08 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 13:14:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dominik.saargate.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA42485 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 22:09:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from domi@saargate.de) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 22:09:04 +0100 (CET) From: Dominik Brettnacher To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: compressing email attachments Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there any product available that can extract the attachments of incoming email, compress them (preferably with InfoZIP) and resend the message with the compressed attachments? -- Dominik - http://www.saargate.de/~domi/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 9 22:11:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D876E43E6 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 22:10:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12ImmK-0003FM-00; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 22:08:36 -0800 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 22:08:34 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Dominik Brettnacher Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Arkeia Server under FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Dominik Brettnacher wrote: > Has someone of you successfully tried to install the Arkeia Server under > FreeBSDs Linux Emulation? Does it work properly? > > > -- > Dominik - http://www.saargate.de/~domi/ I think we should lobby Arkeia to release a FreeBSD version of their backup server. I've already asked for such a thing. I'm using their server on a Redhat 5.1 system right now, and it is very iritating. I doubt that it would work under emulation, because the Linux Arkeia server makes certain assumptions on what the device names are, and how they should be accessed. It may for a single tape driver, but I really don't think a loader would work. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 9 23:29:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from quaggy.ursine.com (lambda.blueneptune.com [209.133.45.179]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF4743F4 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 23:29:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from michael (lambda.ursine.com [209.133.45.69]) by quaggy.ursine.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA89680 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 23:28:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <200002092328510980.292F5E11@quaggy.ursine.com> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.00.00.13 (2) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 23:28:51 -0800 From: "Michael Bryan" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: List addresses harvested for spam? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just got spam with the following headers, sent to an address that I use solely for this mailing list. I believe it's my first spam for this address, which I've been using for at least a year. Ah well, no list is totally safe, that's why I use replaceable addresses for email lists. > Return-Path: f5fxsstkc@venus.cerfacs.fr > Received: from relay10.smtp.psi.net (relay10.smtp.psi.net [38.8.34.2]) > by quaggy.ursine.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA89634 > for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 23:19:40 -0800 (PST) > Received: from [38.243.198.30] (helo=3D[38.243.198.30]) > by relay10.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) > id 12Inq1-0003XA-00; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:16:30 -0500 > Received: from X7377GT46 by 38.243.198.30 > with SMTP (QuickMail Pro Server for MacOS 1.1.2); 10-Feb-2000= 02:22:53 -0400 > DATE: 10 Feb 00 12:20:55 AM > FROM: f5FxsSTkC@venus.cerfacs.fr > Message-ID: > SUBJECT: >> Have you ever NEEDED a second chance in life? > > > >>>Just released...the "updated" Seven Steps to the "New You"<<< > > Get the information they want banned in the U.S.!!! [...] -- Michael Bryan fbsd-isp@ursine.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 9 23:44:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from super-g.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1DD843E2 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 23:44:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by super-g.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2B36110E1B; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:43:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1567110E1A; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:43:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:43:47 -0500 (EST) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: Dominik Brettnacher Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Arkeia Server under FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Dominik Brettnacher wrote: > Has someone of you successfully tried to install the Arkeia Server under > FreeBSDs Linux Emulation? Does it work properly? Tried it, but it didn't even work with the test "null" tape device. The linux gui works fine. Didn't have a whole lot of luck with the eval version of the client running native. YMMV, my trial period ended before I could investigate why the client hung all the time. I asked about a FreeBSD version, and they were indifferent. Not real big on pre-sale support either. Speaking of, anyone recommend a good backup package (not amanda please...)? Preferably something that can do some verification on the media after writing. Thanks, Charles > > -- > Dominik - http://www.saargate.de/~domi/ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 0:13:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.usls.edu (atlas.usls.edu [202.47.133.46]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0EDA437B for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:13:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AE3C79B24; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:53:37 +0800 (PHT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D0F5D15 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:53:37 +0800 (PHT) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:53:37 +0800 (PHT) From: "Francis A. Vidal" To: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Backup package (Was: Arkeia Server under FreeBSD) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ---- Quoting spork's message, sent 02/10/00 2:43am ---- > Speaking of, anyone recommend a good backup package (not amanda > please...)? Preferably something that can do some verification on > the media after writing. How about BRU? -- francis vidal university of st. la salle, bacolod city, philippines . . . . . . . PGP key available via e-mail / subject: get PGP key u s l s N E T tel nos. (+63.34).433.3526 / fax (+63.34).434.0415 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 3:18:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sporty.uk.server.boo.com (sporty-pub.uk.server.boo.com [146.101.130.96]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45399440E for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 03:18:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from liam.uk.boo.com ([195.153.206.23] helo=liam) by sporty.uk.server.boo.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 12Irbo-000KMG-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:18:04 +0000 Received: from hagop ([195.153.206.253] helo=hagop.uk.boo.com) by liam with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12Irbo-0000HU-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:18:04 +0000 Received: from localhost (scot@localhost) by hagop.uk.boo.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29095 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:16:41 GMT (envelope-from scot@tech.boo.com) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:16:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Scot Elliott X-Sender: scot@hagop To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: DNS Swap Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi. I'm looking for someone with good close-to-backbone connectivity in the US to host secondary DNS service for us, in exchange for cash or a similary service swap. If anyone can help, please let me know. Thanks Scot ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scot Elliott, Technology Engineering Manager, boo.com +44 171 9502429 Play: scot@indiekid.co.uk Work: scot@tech.boo.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- How can you lie there and think of England when you don't even know who's in the team?... Billy Bragg. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 3:25:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from nathalie.macomnet.ru (nathalie.macomnet.ru [195.128.64.164]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA964407 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 03:25:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from nathalie.macomnet.ru (nathalie.macomnet.ru [195.128.64.164]) by nathalie.macomnet.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20515; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:25:17 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from serg@macomnet.ru) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:25:17 +0300 (MSK) From: "Serg V. Shubenkov" Reply-To: serg@macomnet.ru To: Scot Elliott Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DNS Swap In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ns.macomnet.ru, ns2.macomnet.ru dnsmaster@macomnet.ru On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Scot Elliott wrote: #Hi. # #I'm looking for someone with good close-to-backbone connectivity in the US #to host secondary DNS service for us, in exchange for cash or a similary #service swap. # #If anyone can help, please let me know. # # #Thanks # # #Scot # # # #----------------------------------------------------------------------------- #Scot Elliott, Technology Engineering Manager, boo.com +44 171 9502429 #Play: scot@indiekid.co.uk Work: scot@tech.boo.com #----------------------------------------------------------------------------- #How can you lie there and think of England when you don't even know who's #in the team?... Billy Bragg. # # # #To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org #with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message # ____________________ Serg V. Shubenkov Macomnet, Internet-Intranet Dep. Tel: +7 (095) 796-9079 Fax: +7 (095) 796-9067 e-mail: serg@macomnet.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 4:31:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.est.is (www.est.is [194.144.208.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007F34460 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:31:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from est.is (yggdrasill.est.is [194.144.208.123]) by www.est.is (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA65269 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:31:26 GMT (envelope-from toti@est.is) Message-ID: <38A2B0AB.2FA5BC50@est.is> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:35:55 +0000 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=DE=F3r=F0ur=20=CDvarsson?= X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Filter out unwanted mail from specific address Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In my old setup of sendmail I had files that contained addresses of domains that should be filtered out or rejected. How do I do this today? On my r-3.4 install Thordur Ivarsson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 4:51:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from nathalie.macomnet.ru (nathalie.macomnet.ru [195.128.64.164]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD9D34454 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 04:51:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from nathalie.macomnet.ru (nathalie.macomnet.ru [195.128.64.164]) by nathalie.macomnet.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA22664; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:51:01 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from serg@macomnet.ru) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:51:01 +0300 (MSK) From: "Serg V. Shubenkov" Reply-To: serg@macomnet.ru To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=DE=F3r=F0ur=20=CDvarsson?= Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Filter out unwanted mail from specific address In-Reply-To: <38A2B0AB.2FA5BC50@est.is> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Somthing like this: less ns.macomnet.ru.mc dnl ################ spammers must die: see /etc/mail/access FEATURE(access_db, `dbm /etc/mail/access')dnl /etc/mail/access #express.ru superspammers #212.5.67.2 REJECT #212.24.32 REJECT 195.128.64 RELAY 195.128.65 RELAY 195.128.66 RELAY #stroytransgaz spammers 195.128.67 RELAYTO #stroytransgaz customer proman, who has pop3 195.128.67.98 RELAY 195.128.68 RELAY On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, [iso-8859-1] Þórður Ívarsson wrote: #In my old setup of sendmail I had files that contained addresses of #domains that should be filtered out or rejected. # #How do I do this today? On my r-3.4 install # # #Thordur Ivarsson # # #To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org #with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message # ____________________ Serg V. Shubenkov Macomnet, Internet-Intranet Dep. Tel: +7 (095) 796-9079 Fax: +7 (095) 796-9067 e-mail: serg@macomnet.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 5:14:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from boris.netgate.net (boris2.netgate.net [204.145.147.155]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C764456 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 05:14:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (wellsian@localhost) by boris.netgate.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA85094; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 05:12:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wellsian@caffeine.com) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 05:12:08 -0800 (PST) From: wellsian X-Sender: wellsian@boris.netgate.net To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=DE=F3r=F0ur=20=CDvarsson?= Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Filter out unwanted mail from specific address In-Reply-To: <38A2B0AB.2FA5BC50@est.is> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Be sure to check the docs at sendmail.org: http://www.sendmail.org/m4/anti-spam.html And: http://spam.abuse.net/ On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, [iso-8859-1] =DE=F3r=F0ur =CDvarsson wrote: > In my old setup of sendmail I had files that contained addresses of > domains that should be filtered out or rejected. >=20 > How do I do this today? On my r-3.4 install >=20 > Thordur Ivarsson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 6:27:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.usls.edu (atlas.usls.edu [202.47.133.46]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E266B441E for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:27:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0612B9B13; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:27:19 +0800 (PHT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE415D15 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:27:18 +0800 (PHT) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:27:18 +0800 (PHT) From: "Francis A. Vidal" To: FreeBSD ISP Subject: search engine for website Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi all, can you recommend a good/decent search engine for a small website? -- francis vidal university of st. la salle, bacolod city, philippines . . . . . . . PGP key available via e-mail / subject: get PGP key u s l s N E T tel nos. (+63.34).433.3526 / fax (+63.34).434.0415 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 6:31:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from filer3.isc.rit.edu (filer3.isc.rit.edu [129.21.3.117]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A8A44B8 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:31:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from grace.isc.rit.edu ("port 1533"@[129.21.3.102]) by osfmail.isc.rit.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #34621) with ESMTP id <0FPP0014XXMOYV@osfmail.isc.rit.edu> for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:30:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by grace.isc.rit.edu (8.8.8/1.1.19.2/21Sep98-0910AM) id JAA0000002988; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:30:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:30:22 -0500 From: Jon Parise Subject: Re: search engine for website In-reply-to: ; from francis@usls.edu on Thu, Feb 10, 2000 at 10:27:18PM +0800 To: FreeBSD ISP Message-id: <20000210093022.B32444@osfmail.isc.rit.edu> Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.3i X-Operating-System: OSF1 V4.0 (alpha) References: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Feb 10, 2000 at 10:27:18PM +0800, Francis A. Vidal wrote: > can you recommend a good/decent search engine for a small website? http://www.htdig.org/ -- Jon Parise (parise@pobox.com) . Rochester Inst. of Technology http://www.pobox.com/~parise/ : Computer Science House Member To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 6:32:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gate.webclub.ru (gate.web2000.ru [195.58.61.2]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3374480 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:32:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from newbee.web2000.ru ([195.58.61.40]) by gate.webclub.ru with smtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12Iuc0-0007VY-00; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:30:28 +0300 From: Andrey Novikov Organization: WebClub To: "Francis A. Vidal" , FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: search engine for website Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:29:34 +0300 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00021017295900.04428@newbee.web2000.ru> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > can you recommend a good/decent search engine for a small website? http://www.htdig.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 6:32:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from portjeff.net (mail.portjeff.net [207.198.250.4]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D298F44A5 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:32:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from nerdlabs.com [24.129.126.78] by portjeff.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.00) id AC6188B0138; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:34:09 -0500 Message-ID: <38A2C9DD.8621EBBF@nerdlabs.com> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:23:25 -0500 From: Paul Dlug X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Francis A. Vidal" Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: search engine for website References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ht://dig www.htdig.org It's easy to setup, fairly powerful and a large number of other sites use it. "Francis A. Vidal" wrote: > hi all, > > can you recommend a good/decent search engine for a small website? > > -- > francis vidal university of st. la salle, bacolod city, philippines > . . . . . . . PGP key available via e-mail / subject: get PGP key > u s l s N E T tel nos. (+63.34).433.3526 / fax (+63.34).434.0415 -- Paul Dlug Web Architect To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 6:34:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from d016.gold.gellivare.se (comnix.com [195.196.65.16]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5EC2A427B for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:34:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 8014 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2000 14:34:13 -0000 Received: from pc5241153.han.telia.se (HELO olle) (131.115.241.153) by comnix.com with SMTP; 10 Feb 2000 14:34:13 -0000 Message-ID: <004401bf73d3$f47ba1e0$0201a8c0@telia.se> From: "John Angelmo" To: "freebsd-isp @ Freebsd.org" Subject: pppoe as ISP Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:34:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello This is my netconfig and I wonder if any1 here have any hints forme = regardin my pppoe connection.. I can't get it to work..=20 > _________ > | Internet | > | | > |_________| > | > | > _____|____ > | | > | ed1 | <-ed1 get real IP from DHCP server > | | | <-Freebsd 3.4 stable > | vr0 | <- VR0 har 192.168.1.1 > |_________| > | > | <--Want pppoe > ___|______ > | | > | eth0 | <- RH 6.1 BOX > |_________| <- I want eth0 to get a IP from the 192.168.1.*=20 > sub 255.255.255.0 net This is the messages I get: I'm trying to put up a server and a client for pppoe on the serverside Freebsd 3.4 pppoed on the clientside RHL 6.1 pppoe from www.roaringpenguin.com. When I connect I get the server get this message: bash-2.03# /usr/libexec/pppoed -Fd -p telia vr0 Sending NGM_LISTHOOKS to vr0: Got reply from id [1]: Type ether with 0 hooks Send MKPEER: vr0:orphans -> [type pppoe]:ethernet Sending PPPOE_LISTEN to .:pppoe-1951, provider telia pppoed[1951]: Listening as provider telia pppoed[1951]: Got 60 bytes of data: = ffffffffffff0000f8780bbd8863110900000004010100000000000000000000000000000= 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 pppoed[1951]: Listening as provider telia pppoed[1953]: Creating a new socket node pppoed[1953]: Sending CONNECT from .:exec-1953 -> vr0:orphans.exec-1953 pppoed[1953]: Sending NGM_SOCK_CMD_NOLINGER to socket pppoed[1953]: Offering to .:exec-1953 as access concentrator lisa pppoed[1953]: Sending original request to .:exec-1953 (60 bytes) pppoed[1953]: Waiting for a SUCCESS reply .:exec-1953 pppoed[1953]: Received NGM_PPPOE_SUCCESS (hook "exec-1953") pppoed[1953]: Executing: exec /usr/sbin/ppp -direct telia Feb 10 14:41:05 lisa ppp[1953]: tun0: Warning: Unindented command = (/etc/ppp/ppp.conf line 33) - ignored=20 Feb 10 14:41:05 lisa ppp[1953]: tun0: Warning: deflink: Reducing MRU to = 1492 The client side generates this Using interface ppp0 Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/pts/1 sent [LCP ConfReq id=3D0x5 ] rcvd [proto=3D0x7eff] 7d 23 c0 21 7d 21 7d 21 7d 20 7d 38 7d 28 7d 22 7d = 27 7d 22 7d 22 7d 26 7d 20 7d 20 7d 20 7d 20 ... sent [LCP ConfReq id=3D0x5 ] Terminating on signal 2. sent [LCP TermReq id=3D0x6 "User request"] Modem hangup Connection terminated. Child process /usr/local/bin/pppoe -I eth0 -T 80 -m 1412 (pid 654) = terminated with signal 2 Using interface ppp0 Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/pts/1 sent [LCP ConfReq id=3D0x1 ] write: warning: Input/output error (5) Modem hangup Connection terminated. Script /usr/local/bin/pppoe -I eth0 -T 80 -m 1412 finished (pid 658), = status =3D 0x0 Does any1 have any hints? /John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 6:34:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.usls.edu (atlas.usls.edu [202.47.133.46]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03DF3442F for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:34:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B8D0A9B13; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:34:26 +0800 (PHT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8EC5D15 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:34:26 +0800 (PHT) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:34:26 +0800 (PHT) From: "Francis A. Vidal" To: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: search engine for website In-Reply-To: <00021017295900.04428@newbee.web2000.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ---- Quoting Andrey Novikov's message, sent 02/10/00 5:29pm ---- > > can you recommend a good/decent search engine for a small website? > http://www.htdig.org/ thanks! installing it now from ports. -- francis vidal university of st. la salle, bacolod city, philippines . . . . . . . PGP key available via e-mail / subject: get PGP key u s l s N E T tel nos. (+63.34).433.3526 / fax (+63.34).434.0415 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 6:46:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from richard2.pil.net (richard2.pil.net [207.8.164.9]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 41588427B for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:46:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 10552 invoked by uid 1825); 10 Feb 2000 14:45:45 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Feb 2000 14:45:45 -0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:45:45 -0500 (EST) From: X-Sender: up@richard2.pil.net To: Scot Elliott Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS Swap In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Scot Elliott wrote: > I'm looking for someone with good close-to-backbone connectivity in the US > to host secondary DNS service for us, in exchange for cash or a similary > service swap. > > If anyone can help, please let me know. ISP/C membership gives you secondary DNS on 4 different US-based name servers, among other things. James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 7:38: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from benge.graphics.cornell.edu (benge.graphics.cornell.edu [128.84.247.43]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A07A44AA for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 07:38:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from benge.graphics.cornell.edu (mkc@localhost) by benge.graphics.cornell.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA32794; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:37:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mkc@benge.graphics.cornell.edu) Message-Id: <200002101537.KAA32794@benge.graphics.cornell.edu> To: spork Cc: Dominik Brettnacher , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Arkeia Server under FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message from spork of "Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:43:47 EST." Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:37:39 -0500 From: Mitch Collinsworth Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Speaking of, anyone recommend a good backup package (not amanda >please...)? Just out of curiosity, what don't you like about amanda? -Mitch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 8:13:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail0.bna.bellsouth.net (mail0.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.12]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37E94423 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 08:13:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from veager (host-216-78-3-29.jan.bellsouth.net [216.78.3.29]) by mail0.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with SMTP id LAA10844 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:13:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <005c01bf73e1$bb4d3ba0$1d034ed8@siteplus.net> From: "Jim Weeks" To: Subject: Tagged Queueing Enabled Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:13:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I got this kernel message this morning and am drawing a blank. The mail archives are down, so I couldn't research it. Tagged Queueing Enabled What is this? Your patience is appreciated. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 8:31:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from boris.netgate.net (boris2.netgate.net [204.145.147.155]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD6644E3 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 08:31:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (wellsian@localhost) by boris.netgate.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA87614; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 08:28:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wellsian@caffeine.com) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 08:28:09 -0800 (PST) From: wellsian X-Sender: wellsian@boris.netgate.net To: Jim Weeks Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Tagged Queueing Enabled In-Reply-To: <005c01bf73e1$bb4d3ba0$1d034ed8@siteplus.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It's good. It's a SCSI thing. Basically, with drivers that support it, the drives are able to grab things more efficiently. Given these requests for data all over a drive: Inside track Outside track Inside track Outside track etc. The drive will gather the data in other than command sequence. e.g. Inside Inside Outside Outside. I'm simplifying. The derived benefit should be highly driver dependent, meaning not all cards will take advantage of the feature equally. You might want to check the scsi list archives. Dave On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Jim Weeks wrote: > Hi, > > I got this kernel message this morning and am drawing a blank. The mail > archives are down, so I couldn't research it. > > Tagged Queueing Enabled > > > What is this? > > Your patience is appreciated. > > Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 8:38:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.bna.bellsouth.net (mail1.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.13]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895924092 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 08:38:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from veager (host-216-78-4-136.jan.bellsouth.net [216.78.4.136]) by mail1.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with SMTP id LAA28679; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:37:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000901bf73e5$25ac0a00$88044ed8@siteplus.net> From: "Jim Weeks" To: "wellsian" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Tagged Queueing Enabled Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:37:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks, I was puzzled because I had never seen this message, and I check them every day. > It's good. It's a SCSI thing. Basically, with drivers that support it, the > drives are able to grab things more efficiently. > > Given these requests for data all over a drive: > > Inside track > Outside track > Inside track > Outside track > etc. > > The drive will gather the data in other than command sequence. e.g. Inside > Inside Outside Outside. I'm simplifying. > > The derived benefit should be highly driver dependent, meaning not all > cards will take advantage of the feature equally. You might want to check > the scsi list archives. > > Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 8:42: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gate.webclub.ru (gate.web2000.ru [195.58.61.2]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8052E42C6 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 08:42:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from newbee.web2000.ru ([195.58.61.40]) by gate.webclub.ru with smtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12Iwe3-0007ni-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 19:40:43 +0300 From: Andrey Novikov Organization: WebClub To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: isc-dhcpd Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 19:39:06 +0300 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00021019401800.05473@newbee.web2000.ru> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, can somebody please share the sample dhcpd.conf? Thanks in advance. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 8:58:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dominik.saargate.de (dominik.saargate.de [212.88.133.252]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75EA94528 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 08:58:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dominik.saargate.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA45747; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:56:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from domi@saargate.de) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:56:07 +0100 (CET) From: Dominik Brettnacher To: "novikov@webclub.ru" Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: isc-dhcpd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, novikov@webclub.ru wrote: > can somebody please share the sample dhcpd.conf? > Thanks in advance. Here you are... option domain-name-servers dominik.saargate.de; option domain-name "saargate.de"; default-lease-time 7200; max-lease-time 86400; subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 192.168.1.10 192.168.1.254; option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; option routers 192.168.1.2; option broadcast-address 192.168.1.255; } host spassmobil { hardware ethernet 00:60:08:bb:5e:2d; fixed-address spassmobil.saargate.de; } -- Dominik - http://www.saargate.de/~domi/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 9:11: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsd.hicks.cz (bsd.hicks.cz [212.24.137.196]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F32E4531 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:10:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7569 invoked by uid 1000); 10 Feb 2000 12:40:33 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Feb 2000 12:40:33 -0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:40:33 +0100 (CET) From: Jakub Chromy X-Sender: hicksmailbox@bsd.hicks.cz To: "Serg V. Shubenkov" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DNS Swap In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > ns.macomnet.ru, ns2.macomnet.ru > dnsmaster@macomnet.ru I've never doubt, that crucial US communications backbones go throught ex-soviet SS20 silos :)) best regards Jakub Chromy Hosting CZ Ltd. Tel: 0603 822 830 http://www.hosting.cz ICQ: 12017727 NEW: Miesto.sk http://www.miesto.sk Operator: pagehix@hermes.hosting.cz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 12:50:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B5B4501 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:49:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (1608 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:29:59 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #1 built 1999-Aug-7) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:29:58 -0600 (CST) From: James Wyatt To: wellsian Cc: Jim Weeks , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Tagged Queueing Enabled In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, wellsian wrote: > It's good. It's a SCSI thing. Basically, with drivers that support it, the > drives are able to grab things more efficiently. > > Given these requests for data all over a drive: > > Inside track > Outside track > Inside track > Outside track > etc. > > The drive will gather the data in other than command sequence. e.g. Inside > Inside Outside Outside. I'm simplifying. > > The derived benefit should be highly driver dependent, meaning not all > cards will take advantage of the feature equally. You might want to check > the scsi list archives. Not all drives will take advantage of the feature equally, either... 8{( It's a good short answer, though! - Jy@ > On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Jim Weeks wrote: > > I got this kernel message this morning and am drawing a blank. The mail > > archives are down, so I couldn't research it. > > > > Tagged Queueing Enabled > > > > > > What is this? > > > > Your patience is appreciated. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 13: 5:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from super-g.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB2F45C0 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:05:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by super-g.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5ED6310E1B; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:05:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4687A10E1A; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:05:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:05:38 -0500 (EST) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: Mitch Collinsworth Cc: Dominik Brettnacher , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Arkeia Server under FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <200002101537.KAA32794@benge.graphics.cornell.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Mitch Collinsworth wrote: > >Speaking of, anyone recommend a good backup package (not amanda > >please...)? > > Just out of curiosity, what don't you like about amanda? Too much work :) I'll admit it... I have too many other things to deal with, and getting it going with ssh, etc. etc. etc. I can see this growing into a large project that would suck time from other large projects. I just want something nice and simple and safe that's turnkey. I don't mind putting time into figuring out the "backup strategy", but I don't want to have much work on the initial install. Charles > -Mitch > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 13:34:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from benge.graphics.cornell.edu (benge.graphics.cornell.edu [128.84.247.43]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E55F4534 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:34:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from benge.graphics.cornell.edu (mkc@localhost) by benge.graphics.cornell.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA34999; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:34:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mkc@benge.graphics.cornell.edu) Message-Id: <200002102134.QAA34999@benge.graphics.cornell.edu> To: spork Cc: Dominik Brettnacher , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Amanda [was: Arkeia Server under FreeBSD] In-Reply-To: Message from spork of "Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:05:38 EST." Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:34:10 -0500 From: Mitch Collinsworth Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> Just out of curiosity, what don't you like about amanda? > >Too much work :) I'll admit it... I have too many other things to deal >with, and getting it going with ssh, etc. etc. etc. I can see this growing >into a large project that would suck time from other large projects. > >I just want something nice and simple and safe that's turnkey. I don't >mind putting time into figuring out the "backup strategy", but I don't >want to have much work on the initial install. Well that's fair. If there's one thing amanda is not, it's turnkey. It does take time to install and get going. But I have to say it's saved me huge amounts of time over the last 2 years, compared to the way I was doing backups before. (Perl scripts, and a lot of time correcting things when a backup failed.) Just thinking out loud, something I've lately been talking about with a friend is starting a business to offer remote backups. I'm guessing there might be lots of people who would love to sub-contract that headache. Encrypt at the client end before sending, so you could feel safe trusting us with your data. The part that I'm afraid won't work out is the cost for the bandwidth it would take to pull it off! And no, we wouldn't necessarily use amanda for a job like this, though we wouldn't necessarily not, either. In fact in order to make a go of it we would probably have to offer enough options to satisfy a variety of tastes! -Mitch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 14: 0:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from boris.netgate.net (boris2.netgate.net [204.145.147.155]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C354596 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:00:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (wellsian@localhost) by boris.netgate.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA90284; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:57:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wellsian@caffeine.com) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:57:17 -0800 (PST) From: wellsian X-Sender: wellsian@boris.netgate.net To: Mitch Collinsworth Cc: spork , Dominik Brettnacher , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Amanda [was: Arkeia Server under FreeBSD] In-Reply-To: <200002102134.QAA34999@benge.graphics.cornell.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There have been several remote-backup businesses but they were probably doomed before broadband. Haven't kept track of them over the last year, but neither have I heard much marketing noise, which could be a sign. Netscape's Atrieva, which became driveway.com, has moved away from backup and toward "sharing". Dave On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Mitch Collinsworth wrote: > Well that's fair. If there's one thing amanda is not, it's turnkey. > It does take time to install and get going. But I have to say it's > saved me huge amounts of time over the last 2 years, compared to the > way I was doing backups before. (Perl scripts, and a lot of time > correcting things when a backup failed.) > > Just thinking out loud, something I've lately been talking about with > a friend is starting a business to offer remote backups. I'm guessing > there might be lots of people who would love to sub-contract that > headache. Encrypt at the client end before sending, so you could feel > safe trusting us with your data. The part that I'm afraid won't work > out is the cost for the bandwidth it would take to pull it off! > > And no, we wouldn't necessarily use amanda for a job like this, though > we wouldn't necessarily not, either. In fact in order to make a go of > it we would probably have to offer enough options to satisfy a variety > of tastes! > > -Mitch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 15:36:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from super-g.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF15545C7 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:36:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by super-g.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D552A10E1B; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 18:35:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BD05A10E1A; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 18:35:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 18:35:45 -0500 (EST) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: Mitch Collinsworth Cc: Dominik Brettnacher , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Amanda [was: Arkeia Server under FreeBSD] In-Reply-To: <200002102134.QAA34999@benge.graphics.cornell.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Mitch Collinsworth wrote: > Just thinking out loud, something I've lately been talking about with > a friend is starting a business to offer remote backups. I'm guessing > there might be lots of people who would love to sub-contract that > headache. Encrypt at the client end before sending, so you could feel > safe trusting us with your data. The part that I'm afraid won't work > out is the cost for the bandwidth it would take to pull it off! You know, as far as features, I saw lots of neat stuff when shopping around. The only problem is that most of the really big expensive and bloated programs seem to favor WinNT (blech) as the server. No thanks. So much clicking and all. There really does seem to be a gaping hole in the market for backup software that fits somewhere between desktop and "enterprise" (ie: small to medium ISP with 40 or so machines). The feature set I'm looking for is pretty small: -simple install/config -client daemon running on each machine -access control for said client -data encryption -verification that data made it to tape -tape "management" (ie: stick in tape A1, C3 for server X) -library support -simultaneous backup of multiple client machines -single-floppy restore (my most wanted feature, jam the floppy in and boot - have it suck the bits from the server onto your new drive) I'll buy it if you make it :) Charles > > -Mitch > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 15:54:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from benge.graphics.cornell.edu (benge.graphics.cornell.edu [128.84.247.43]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3256745F6 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:54:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from benge.graphics.cornell.edu (mkc@localhost) by benge.graphics.cornell.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA35803; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 18:49:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mkc@benge.graphics.cornell.edu) Message-Id: <200002102349.SAA35803@benge.graphics.cornell.edu> To: spork Cc: Mitch Collinsworth , Dominik Brettnacher , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Amanda [was: Arkeia Server under FreeBSD] In-Reply-To: Message from spork of "Thu, 10 Feb 2000 18:35:45 EST." Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 18:49:04 -0500 From: Mitch Collinsworth Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> Just thinking out loud, something I've lately been talking about with >> a friend is starting a business to offer remote backups. I'm guessing >> there might be lots of people who would love to sub-contract that >> headache. Encrypt at the client end before sending, so you could feel >> safe trusting us with your data. The part that I'm afraid won't work >> out is the cost for the bandwidth it would take to pull it off! > >You know, as far as features, I saw lots of neat stuff when shopping >around. The only problem is that most of the really big expensive and >bloated programs seem to favor WinNT (blech) as the server. No thanks. >So much clicking and all. I hear ya. But that's why we're on a FBSD list! :-) Anyhow I think you missed my point. What I'm talking about is a backup service bureau. We build and run the backup machinery and worry about tapes, drives, vaults, rotations, etc, etc. You install the client software (or we'll do it remotely if you trust us logging in to your machines), tell us your requirements, and leave the backups to us. >There really does seem to be a gaping hole in the market for backup >software that fits somewhere between desktop and "enterprise" (ie: small >to medium ISP with 40 or so machines). The feature set I'm looking for is >pretty small: > >-simple install/config >-client daemon running on each machine >-access control for said client >-data encryption >-verification that data made it to tape >-tape "management" (ie: stick in tape A1, C3 for server X) >-library support >-simultaneous backup of multiple client machines >-single-floppy restore (my most wanted feature, jam the floppy in and > boot - have it suck the bits from the server onto your new drive) > >I'll buy it if you make it :) I haven't looked at it closely but I think IBM's ADSM does most or all of this. Of course it's aimed at the enterprise. -Mitch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 16:42:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tigger.key.co.za (tigger.key.co.za [196.2.147.10]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B6845F6 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:42:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from peter (helo=localhost) by tigger.key.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12J3Wi-0002LB-00; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 02:01:36 +0200 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 02:01:36 +0200 (SAST) From: Peter Lockhart To: Mitch Collinsworth Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Amanda [was: Arkeia Server under FreeBSD] In-Reply-To: <200002102349.SAA35803@benge.graphics.cornell.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Mitch Collinsworth wrote: > Anyhow I think you missed my point. What I'm talking about is a > backup service bureau. We build and run the backup machinery and worry > about tapes, drives, vaults, rotations, etc, etc. You install the > client software (or we'll do it remotely if you trust us logging in to > your machines), tell us your requirements, and leave the backups to us. http://www.backuponline.com is the kind of thing you're getting at. Backups as often as you like, incremental, encrypted, written to CD on request etc etc etc currently only NT client (linux on the way apparently) :-/ Cheers Peter Lockhart http://key.co.za | peter@key.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 17:23:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.workofstone.net (w121.z208177130.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.177.130.121]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F0E4530 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:23:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from timberwolf (c956029-a.haywd2.sfba.home.com [24.0.78.216]) by mail.workofstone.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15506; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:19:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200002110119.RAA15506@mail.workofstone.net> To: spork , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:17:21 -0800 From: schluntz@timberwolf.workofstone.net Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Amanda [was: Arkeia Server under FreeBSD] Reply-To: "Sean J. Schluntz" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 10 Feb 2000 18:35:45 EST." -------- >You know, as far as features, I saw lots of neat stuff when shopping >around. The only problem is that most of the really big expensive and >bloated programs seem to favor WinNT (blech) as the server. No thanks. >So much clicking and all. > >There really does seem to be a gaping hole in the market for backup >software that fits somewhere between desktop and "enterprise" (ie: small >to medium ISP with 40 or so machines). The feature set I'm looking for is >pretty small: One though. Have you looked in to Burt? http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~jmelski/burt/ I heard a talk on it at the last LISA but havn't had a chance to play with it. -Sean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 20:12: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4044636 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:11:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12J7Ia-0004JQ-00; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:03:16 -0800 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:03:12 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: "Francis A. Vidal" Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Backup package (Was: Arkeia Server under FreeBSD) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Francis A. Vidal wrote: > ---- Quoting spork's message, sent 02/10/00 2:43am ---- > > > Speaking of, anyone recommend a good backup package (not amanda > > please...)? Preferably something that can do some verification on > > the media after writing. > > How about BRU? Not client-server. Not suitable for backing up lots of machines. Not suitable for a table library. > -- > francis vidal university of st. la salle, bacolod city, philippines > . . . . . . . PGP key available via e-mail / subject: get PGP key > u s l s N E T tel nos. (+63.34).433.3526 / fax (+63.34).434.0415 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 20:17:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.sheltonbbs.com (mail.sheltonbbs.com [206.196.109.2]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE89D4636 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:17:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7488 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2000 04:17:12 -0000 Received: from systemadmin.sheltonbbs.com (206.196.109.5) by mail.sheltonbbs.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 2000 04:17:12 -0000 From: Butch Evans Reply-To: butch@sheltonbbs.com Organization: Shelton Internet To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:16:19 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.17] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00021022190000.19678@systemadmin.sheltonbbs.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: X-KMail-Mark: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am having trouble with my backups (dump). Here is the script that I am using: --START SCRIPT-- #!/bin/csh /sbin/dump 0usd 6000 54000 / /sbin/dump 0usd 6000 54000 /usr /sbin/dump 0usd 6000 54000 /var mt rewind /usr/bin/mt offline --END SCRIPT-- What happens is the backup works, but it rewinds the tape before each filesystem (leaving only the /var dump on the tape). What is the correct dump command to use? -- Butch Evans Network Admin Shelton Internet 1-800-339-4803 573-276-4803 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 20:22:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.sheltonbbs.com (mail.sheltonbbs.com [206.196.109.2]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EBA7C4662 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:22:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 8975 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2000 04:22:14 -0000 Received: from systemadmin.sheltonbbs.com (206.196.109.5) by mail.sheltonbbs.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 2000 04:22:14 -0000 From: Butch Evans Reply-To: butch@sheltonbbs.com Organization: Shelton Internet To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Dump problem Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:20:50 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.17] Content-Type: text/plain References: <00021022190000.19678@systemadmin.sheltonbbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00021022240200.19699@systemadmin.sheltonbbs.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-KMail-Mark: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Butch Evans wrote: > I am having trouble with my backups (dump). Here is the script that I (Sorry about forgetting the subject on the first message)... Maybe I am just not using the correct restore syntax... I have used "restore -is1" "restore -is2" (and so on). the "is1" works, but only has /var. The "is2" gives a read error (on every tape). -- Butch Evans Network Admin Shelton Internet 1-800-339-4803 573-276-4803 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 10 20:23:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.96.75]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6921B45DB for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:23:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from baby.int.thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA30511; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 23:23:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from thehousleys.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby.int.thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA05183; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 23:23:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Message-ID: <38A38EBE.3D5C228A@thehousleys.net> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 23:23:26 -0500 From: User Housley X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: butch@sheltonbbs.com Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: References: <00021022190000.19678@systemadmin.sheltonbbs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Butch Evans wrote: > > I am having trouble with my backups (dump). Here is the script that I am using: > > --START SCRIPT-- > #!/bin/csh > > /sbin/dump 0usd 6000 54000 / /sbin/dump -0 -u -s 6000 -d 54000 -f /dev/nrsa0 / > /sbin/dump 0usd 6000 54000 /usr /sbin/dump -0 -u -s 6000 -d 54000 -f /dev/nrsa0 /usr > /sbin/dump 0usd 6000 54000 /var /sbin/dump -0 -u -s 6000 -d 54000 -f /dev/nrsa0 /var > mt rewind > /usr/bin/mt offline > --END SCRIPT-- > The important thing is the "n" device. n for NO rewind. This leave the tape where it stoped. Jim -- microsoft: "where do you want to go today?" linux: "where do you want to go tomorrow?" BSD: "are you guys coming, or what?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 11 4:19:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 608) id 10EA946BE; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 04:19:48 -0800 (PST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" To: fbsd-isp@ursine.com Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <200002092328510980.292F5E11@quaggy.ursine.com> (fbsd-isp@ursine.com) Subject: Re: List addresses harvested for spam? References: <200002092328510980.292F5E11@quaggy.ursine.com> Message-Id: <20000211121948.10EA946BE@builder.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 04:19:48 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael, thanks for alerting me to the spam message that you received. unfortunately, i can t do much with this particular one. i need all the headers next time, please send me all the headers. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 11 5:17: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from seidata.com (mail.seidata.com [208.10.211.10]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82873D24 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 05:17:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from wopr (lan-gw.seidata.com [208.10.211.26]) by seidata.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA27117 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:16:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000211081851.007bcaf0@mail.seidata.com> X-Sender: pboehmer@mail.seidata.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:18:51 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Paul Boehmer Subject: RE: Amanda Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think we all can agree that Amanda is very cumbersome to use and that is probably the biggest reason people shy away from it. It is indeed a very powerful and for the experienced, one of the better programs out. What is needed is a good front end for Amanda, either console or X11. I have not been able to find one available for FreeBSD. If someone knows about one or is currently working on one, I think we would all appreciate hearing about it. Just some rambling.... Paul Boehmer Systems Administrator SEI Data, Inc pboehmer@seidata.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 11 7:33:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from richard2.pil.net (richard2.pil.net [207.8.164.9]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 136F246A5 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:33:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 10387 invoked by uid 1825); 11 Feb 2000 15:33:34 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Feb 2000 15:33:34 -0000 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:33:34 -0500 (EST) From: X-Sender: up@richard2.pil.net To: Paul Boehmer Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Amanda In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000211081851.007bcaf0@mail.seidata.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Paul Boehmer wrote: > I think we all can agree that Amanda is very cumbersome to use and that is > probably the biggest reason people shy away from it. It is indeed a very > powerful and for the experienced, one of the better programs out. Actually, it's really not that complicated to set up, and, IMHO, once you do get it set up, it saves you alot of time and stress. they give you a sample amanda.conf file, just take your time going through it. It's pretty much a set it and forget it thing, from a config point of view. > What is needed is a good front end for Amanda, either console or X11. I > have not been able to find one available for FreeBSD. If someone knows > about one or is currently working on one, I think we would all appreciate > hearing about it. I can think of alot of other things it could use before that...such as an the ability to work through ssh, an option to append multiple backups to the same tape, a good working option to do backups to disk, etc. James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 11 7:36:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.geocrawler.com (sourceforge.net [198.186.203.33]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 469E63D6A for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:36:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.geocrawler.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA04712; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:36:46 -0800 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:36:46 -0800 Message-Id: <200002111536.HAA04712@www.geocrawler.com> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Email Server From: "Inix ZixinG" Reply-To: "Inix ZixinG" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message was sent from Geocrawler.com by "Inix ZixinG" Be sure to reply to that address. I'm looking for a Email Server software for FreeBSD, which is mini ISP strength. Supports multiple domains, mail forwarding and SMTP relaying. though the relaying should be able to be turned off. Thanks David Geocrawler.com - The Knowledge Archive To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 11 7:48:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from Samizdat.uucom.com (samizdat.uucom.com [198.202.217.54]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1703D69 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:48:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from cshenton@localhost) by Samizdat.uucom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA15370; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:48:35 -0500 (EST) To: Paul Boehmer Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Amanda References: <3.0.6.32.20000211081851.007bcaf0@mail.seidata.com> From: Chris Shenton Date: 11 Feb 2000 10:48:35 -0500 In-Reply-To: Paul Boehmer's message of "Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:18:51 -0500" Message-ID: Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:18:51 -0500, Paul Boehmer said: Paul> I think we all can agree that Amanda is very cumbersome to use Cumbersome to install on multiple machines and configure yes, but easy to use: just let amanda drive the tape robot and backup your boxes while you sleep. Paul> What is needed is a good front end for Amanda, either console or Paul> X11. I have not been able to find one available for FreeBSD. Paul> If someone knows about one or is currently working on one, I Paul> think we would all appreciate hearing about it. I just checked the "webmin" pages (web based sysadm functions); seems like it would be a good unifying framework for this. Amanda is on their "wish list" but no one has yet volunteered to coordinate/write it. I've never understood how you could take something complex and make it easy by slapping a GUI on it, but webmin has modules for sendmail config and other nontrivial packages. Would be a cool hack... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 11 7:52:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.aha.ru (ns1.aha.ru [195.2.80.142]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA8A47C3 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:52:29 -0800 (PST) X-BodyDigest: a6d34398f92bffbb32aa217f5629fcd4 Received: from pb.hq.zenon.net (pb.zenon.net [195.2.64.18]) by ns1.aha.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3/aha-r/0.04B) with ESMTP id SAA42145; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:52:08 +0300 (MSK) Received: from zenon.net (mp [192.168.9.150]) by pb.hq.zenon.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA68383; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:52:05 +0300 (MSK) Received: by zenon.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 3.2) with PIPE id 1023368; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:52:05 +0300 X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Message-ID: <20000211185154.C77625@zenon.net> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:51:54 +0300 From: Boris Tyshkiewitch To: Inix ZixinG , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Email Server References: <200002111536.HAA04712@www.geocrawler.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <200002111536.HAA04712@www.geocrawler.com>; from Inix ZixinG on Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 07:36:46AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Inix ZixinG, On Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 07:36:46AM -0800 you wrote: > I'm looking for a Email Server software for > FreeBSD, which is mini ISP strength. Supports > multiple domains, mail forwarding and SMTP > relaying. though the relaying should be able to > be turned off. Try CommuniGatePro by Stalker Software (http://www.stalker.com). It's very powerfull all-in-one solution. Any platform supported. Boris. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 11 7:54: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cutter.wantabe.com (cutter.wantabe.com [209.16.8.8]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB8C4722 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:54:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from cutter.wantabe.com (cutter.wantabe.com [209.16.8.8]) by cutter.wantabe.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01748; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:53:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:53:12 -0600 (CST) From: "Jeffrey J. Libman" To: Inix ZixinG Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Email Server In-Reply-To: <200002111536.HAA04712@www.geocrawler.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org as much complaining as i hear about it.....sendmail still works as advertised for all these things. since the m4 macro configs and the spam rules and virtusertable have been added....it does everything you say you want without any manual customization of the sendmail.cf file. ymmv cheers, jeff -- | |\ +------------------------------+ Jeffrey J. Libman, ops. mgr. | \ | Wantabe Internet Services | Wantabe, Inc. |__\ +------------------------------+ jeffrl@wantabe.com <-----|------> | access web cgi ftp news mail | (281) 493-0718 __,.-=\'`^`'~=-../__,.-= +------------------------------+ On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Inix ZixinG wrote: > This message was sent from Geocrawler.com by "Inix ZixinG" > Be sure to reply to that address. > > I'm looking for a Email Server software for > FreeBSD, which is mini ISP strength. Supports > multiple domains, mail forwarding and SMTP > relaying. though the relaying should be able to > be turned off. > > Thanks > David > > > Geocrawler.com - The Knowledge Archive > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 11 7:55:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from benge.graphics.cornell.edu (benge.graphics.cornell.edu [128.84.247.43]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838574818 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:55:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from benge.graphics.cornell.edu (mkc@localhost) by benge.graphics.cornell.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA39268; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:55:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mkc@benge.graphics.cornell.edu) Message-Id: <200002111555.KAA39268@benge.graphics.cornell.edu> To: butch@sheltonbbs.com Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, mkc@benge.graphics.cornell.edu In-Reply-To: Message from Butch Evans of "Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:16:19 CST." <00021022190000.19678@systemadmin.sheltonbbs.com> Subject: Re: trouble with backups [was: null subject] Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:55:23 -0500 From: Mitch Collinsworth Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >I am having trouble with my backups (dump). Here is the script that I am usin >g: > >--START SCRIPT-- >#!/bin/csh > >/sbin/dump 0usd 6000 54000 / >/sbin/dump 0usd 6000 54000 /usr >/sbin/dump 0usd 6000 54000 /var >mt rewind >/usr/bin/mt offline >--END SCRIPT-- > >What happens is the backup works, but it rewinds the tape before each >filesystem (leaving only the /var dump on the tape). What is the correct dump >command to use? Offhand the behavior you describe sounds like you are writing to a rewind-on-close device, but your script is "designed" to use a no-rewind device. But there is nothing here that says what device you are writing to. Are you just allowing dump to default to rsa0? (which is in fact rewind-on-close) Backup scripts should never use defaults. This sets you up for a nasty surprise down the road when you upgrade. If this correct, then you need to add "-f /dev/nrsa0" to your dump commands to send the output to the no-rewind device. -Mitch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 11 8:14:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from alydar.infoteam.com (alydar.infoteam.com [207.246.83.5]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23ABF472C for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:13:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by alydar.infoteam.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7D4F55E62; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:13:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:13:30 -0500 From: Kenn Martin To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Email Server Message-ID: <20000211111330.A68080@infoteam.com> References: <200002111536.HAA04712@www.geocrawler.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200002111536.HAA04712@www.geocrawler.com>; from archiver@db.geocrawler.com on Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 07:36:46AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 07:36:46AM -0800, Inix ZixinG wrote: > This message was sent from Geocrawler.com by "Inix ZixinG" > Be sure to reply to that address. > > I'm looking for a Email Server software for > FreeBSD, which is mini ISP strength. Supports > multiple domains, mail forwarding and SMTP > relaying. though the relaying should be able to > be turned off. Postfix. http://www.postfix.org/ Download from there (it supports FreeBSD out of the box) or use the FreeBSD port, /usr/ports/mail/postfix. kenn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 11 8:29:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE4D477D for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:29:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (1248 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:25:35 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #1 built 1999-Aug-7) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:25:34 -0600 (CST) From: James Wyatt To: Inix ZixinG Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Email Server In-Reply-To: <200002111536.HAA04712@www.geocrawler.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Inix ZixinG wrote: > I'm looking for a Email Server software for > FreeBSD, which is mini ISP strength. Supports > multiple domains, mail forwarding and SMTP > relaying. though the relaying should be able to > be turned off. Most folks use sendmail to fit exactly this bill... We have been using smail for years (since 2.5 needed sendmail on a Tandy 6000!) because the config files are more readable and UUCP support is a bit "better". No doubt you will get other opinions, but between the sendmail config web page and webmin, sendmail has an approachable learning curve, really works well, and has more miles on the debugging odometer than anything else I know of... - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 11 8:32:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from nemesis.oss.uswest.net (nemesis.oss.uswest.net [204.147.85.27]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 15F0D472B for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:32:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 70114 invoked by uid 101); 11 Feb 2000 16:32:28 -0000 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:32:28 -0600 From: Christopher Uy To: Inix ZixinG Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Email Server Message-ID: <20000211103228.A69943@uswest.net> References: <200002111536.HAA04712@www.geocrawler.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200002111536.HAA04712@www.geocrawler.com>; from "archiver@db.geocrawler.com" on Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 07:36:46AM Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 07:36:46AM -0800, Inix ZixinG wrote: > This message was sent from Geocrawler.com by "Inix ZixinG" > Be sure to reply to that address. > > I'm looking for a Email Server software for > FreeBSD, which is mini ISP strength. Supports > multiple domains, mail forwarding and SMTP > relaying. though the relaying should be able to > be turned off. > Is there a reason for not using sendmail? It comes with the standard FreeBSD distribution and has all the features that you require in a mail server? I know some people have a fear of sendmail and having to mess with the sendmail.cf file. With the versions of sendmail that are currently shipping with FreeBSD though, you can create a custom sendmail.cf files very easily using m4 macro configs. It's probably safe to say that sendmail is the mode widely used MTA out there. A few other popular MTAs are Qmail (http://www.qmail.org) and Postfix (http://www.postfix.org), both of which are highly centered and focused on security. Choosing the best of the three MTAs becomes a religious war. They're all free... try one and see which one you like best. - chris -- Christopher Uy U S WEST Internet Services Systems Engineer 600 Stinson Blvd. 3S E-mail: cuy@uswest.net Minneapolis, MN 55413 "I used to be a doctor, but I didn't have the patients." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 11 9:54:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mimer.webgiro.com (mimer.webgiro.com [212.209.29.5]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DE83D3F for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:54:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by mimer.webgiro.com (Postfix, from userid 66) id 613932DC07; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:53:42 +0100 (CET) Received: by mx.webgiro.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2DD557811; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:54:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.webgiro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244C510E12; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:54:42 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:54:42 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki To: Mitch Collinsworth Cc: spork , Dominik Brettnacher , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Amanda [was: Arkeia Server under FreeBSD] In-Reply-To: <200002102349.SAA35803@benge.graphics.cornell.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Mitch Collinsworth wrote: > I haven't looked at it closely but I think IBM's ADSM does most or all > of this. Of course it's aimed at the enterprise. There is no FreeBSd client. The Linux client behaves strange enough that it makes me uncomfortable to use it for production system. Andrzej Bialecki // WebGiro AB, Sweden (http://www.webgiro.com) // ------------------------------------------------------------------- // ------ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve. http://www.freebsd.org -------- // --- Small & Embedded FreeBSD: http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ ---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 11 10:10: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from benge.graphics.cornell.edu (benge.graphics.cornell.edu [128.84.247.43]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828893D76 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:09:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from benge.graphics.cornell.edu (mkc@localhost) by benge.graphics.cornell.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA40123; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:09:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mkc@benge.graphics.cornell.edu) Message-Id: <200002111809.NAA40123@benge.graphics.cornell.edu> To: Andrzej Bialecki Cc: spork , Dominik Brettnacher , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Amanda [was: Arkeia Server under FreeBSD] In-Reply-To: Message from Andrzej Bialecki of "Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:54:42 +0100." Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:09:39 -0500 From: Mitch Collinsworth Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> I haven't looked at it closely but I think IBM's ADSM does most or all >> of this. Of course it's aimed at the enterprise. > >There is no FreeBSd client. The Linux client behaves strange enough that >it makes me uncomfortable to use it for production system. Ah yes. I knew there was a reason I didn't like ADSM. Thanks for reminding me! -Mitch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 11 10:10:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from loki.intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8344801 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:10:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mark@localhost) by loki.intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA06141; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:10:06 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:10:06 -0500 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: Inix ZixinG Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Email Server Message-ID: <20000211131006.L7592@intrepid.net> References: <200002111536.HAA04712@www.geocrawler.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200002111536.HAA04712@www.geocrawler.com>; from archiver@db.geocrawler.com on Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 07:36:46AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 07:36:46AM -0800, Inix ZixinG wrote: > This message was sent from Geocrawler.com by "Inix ZixinG" > Be sure to reply to that address. > > I'm looking for a Email Server software for > FreeBSD, which is mini ISP strength. Supports > multiple domains, mail forwarding and SMTP > relaying. though the relaying should be able to > be turned off. > > Thanks > David People will swear by (and at!) sendmail qmail postfix Take your pick -- reasonable people will disagree. I've no experince with postfix, but I've heard good things about it. qmail seems pretty high-performance to me (if you use spool hashing and Maildir format), and sendmail, we'll, it's sendmail. --Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 11 10:16:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from loki.intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3E047B6 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:16:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mark@localhost) by loki.intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA07684 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:16:33 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:07:24 -0500 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: Andrey Novikov Subject: Re: isc-dhcpd Message-ID: <20000211130724.K7592@intrepid.net> References: <00021019401800.05473@newbee.web2000.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <00021019401800.05473@newbee.web2000.ru>; from novikov@webclub.ru on Thu, Feb 10, 2000 at 07:39:06PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Feb 10, 2000 at 07:39:06PM +0300, Andrey Novikov wrote: > Hello, > > can somebody please share the sample dhcpd.conf? > Thanks in advance. Here's one I use on my home netowrk. I assigen a static IP to my machine and my wife's machine: subnet 209.190.164.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { option routers 209.190.164.1; option domain-name-servers freya.intrepid.net; max-lease-time 72000; default-lease-time 72000; host traci { hardware ethernet 00:C0:E3:26:11:18; fixed-address traci.intrepid.net; option host-name "traci"; } host elvis { hardware ethernet 00:00:86:0f:64:fa; fixed-address elvis.intrepid.net; option host-name "elvis"; } } Here's one I use at the office -- it assigns dynamic IP's. shared-network OVERALL { option routers 206.102.77.1; option domain-name-servers freya.intrepid.net; subnet 206.102.77.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 206.102.77.32 206.102.77.47; } } Note that some BSD releases put the config in /etc, some in /usr/local/etc. --Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 11 10:27:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from naiad.eclipse.net.uk (naiad.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.29]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 415B947DB for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:27:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by naiad.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix, from userid 475) id 892481484A; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:27:27 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:27:27 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson To: Mark Conway Wirt Cc: Inix ZixinG , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Email Server Message-ID: <20000211182727.P28822@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> References: <200002111536.HAA04712@www.geocrawler.com> <20000211131006.L7592@intrepid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000211131006.L7592@intrepid.net>; from mark@intrepid.net on Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 01:10:06PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 01:10:06PM -0500, Mark Conway Wirt wrote: > On Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 07:36:46AM -0800, Inix ZixinG wrote: > > I'm looking for a Email Server software for > > FreeBSD, which is mini ISP strength. Supports > > multiple domains, mail forwarding and SMTP > > relaying. though the relaying should be able to > > be turned off. No MTA shipped in this day and age should have relaying enabled by default. It should have to be specifically enabled. (In Sendmail, this is the access table; in Postfix, this is "mynetworks", I can only speak for the mailers I remember how to use :-) > People will swear by (and at!) > > sendmail > qmail > postfix Exim is used by a number of high-profile sites. The great thing is, these days there is a good choice of MTAs in the ports collection, so it's not too hard to try them all out. > I've no experince with postfix, but I've heard good things about it. I like Postfix - if you compare unmodified releases (rather than patched versions), it's more tolerant of badly-written clients than qmail (though less tolerant than Sendmail). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 11 10:41:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from loki.intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985683DBF for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:41:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mark@localhost) by loki.intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA13946; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:41:28 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:41:27 -0500 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: Stuart Henderson Cc: Inix ZixinG , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Email Server Message-ID: <20000211134127.O7592@intrepid.net> References: <200002111536.HAA04712@www.geocrawler.com> <20000211131006.L7592@intrepid.net> <20000211182727.P28822@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000211182727.P28822@naiad.eclipse.net.uk>; from sthen@naiad.eclipse.net.uk on Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 06:27:27PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 06:27:27PM +0000, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > The great thing is, these days there is a good choice of > MTAs in the ports collection, so it's not too hard to try them > all out. > > > I've no experince with postfix, but I've heard good things about it. > > I like Postfix - if you compare unmodified releases (rather than > patched versions), it's more tolerant of badly-written clients than > qmail (though less tolerant than Sendmail). That's true -- if you do use qmail, you'll want to apply the "brain-dead DNS" patch and the "only \n at the end of the lines" patch, to insure maximum compatibility. Both patches are on qmail.org. The DNS patch is in the qmail of the latest ports collection. --Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 11 11:11:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from quaggy.ursine.com (lambda.blueneptune.com [209.133.45.179]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046DF47EE; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:11:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from michael (lambda.ursine.com [209.133.45.69]) by quaggy.ursine.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09742; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:11:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <200002111111230010.30D95C85@quaggy.ursine.com> In-Reply-To: <20000211121948.10EA946BE@builder.freebsd.org> References: <200002092328510980.292F5E11@quaggy.ursine.com> <20000211121948.10EA946BE@builder.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.00.00.13 (2) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:11:23 -0800 From: "Michael Bryan" To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: List addresses harvested for spam? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Michael, > > thanks for alerting me to the spam message that you received. > unfortunately, i can t do much with this particular one. i > need all the headers > > next time, please send me all the headers. Ummm, I -did-. It was not sent to the list, it was sent directly to my address fbsd-isp@ursine.com. The only place I've ever used that address is for this list. Hence my statement that somebody was harvesting addresses from this mailing list. No biggie, it was more of an FYI than anything, since the list archives can be searched and viewed by anybody on the net, and finding the culprit is next to impossible. -- Michael Bryan fbsd-isp@ursine.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 11 11:46:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gamera.comnetcom.net (ns1.comnetcom.net [209.100.247.254]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B113B3DAE for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:46:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from jeff (jeff.comnetcom.net [209.100.247.124]) by gamera.comnetcom.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA26652 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:46:03 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <003101bf74c8$91e44280$7cf764d1@comnetcom.net> From: "Jeff Tolley" To: References: <3883AC9A.ACD3CE0C@csocs.com> <3883BE8C.8ACBF340@csocs.com> Subject: Re: Frontpage Extensions (again?) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:45:37 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org is this port still available? I'm having difficulty finding it.... ---- Jeff Tolley - jeff@comnetcom.net Senior Systems Engineer Network Operations Center - noc@comnetcom.net Com Net Communications System, Inc. Voice: 219-934-9000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.C. Frazier" To: ; Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 7:14 PM Subject: Re: Frontpage Extensions (again?) > Troy: > > I have submitted a port PR and you are welcome to try it. It is very secure > and tested and has php3, mySQL support, the frontpage 2000 extensions via the > patch, and mod_ssl. You can find it on the PR lists or at > ftp://ftp.csocs.com/pub/FreeBSD/ports/apache13-php3-fp-modssl.tar.gz Hope > this helps. Anyone on freebsd-isp is welcome to try it out or test it...it's > proven to be very stable. FreeBSD-Ports is trying to decide now on the future > of the Apache ports, you may not get another chance to get this > Apache13+kitchen_sink. :) > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 11 16:16: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82CAA4032; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:15:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id KAA89799; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 10:46:09 +1030 (CST) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 10:46:09 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Kevin Day Cc: Stanley Hopcroft , FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD and MS Windows performance Message-ID: <20000212104609.E89378@freebie.lemis.com> References: <200002070413.WAA88587@celery.dragondata.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <200002070413.WAA88587@celery.dragondata.com> WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday, 6 February 2000 at 22:13:23 -0600, Kevin Day wrote: >> While he talks about TPC benchmarks that substantiate his claims that >> MS NT outperforms Linux , he does *not* quote any. > > See the famous Mindcraft benchmarks, if you want to see one glaring > example of Microsoft winning. To be fair, the tests were conducted in a fair environment, and pointed out to both the Linux and BSD communities that not everything is perfect. Of course, it also gave us an incentive to fix the situation :-) The real question about the Mindcraft benchmarks is "who cares?". The benchmark did not represent a real-life situation. In a corresponding real-life situation (IIRC with dynamic HTML), Linux or FreeBSD will outperform Microsoft. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 11 17: 8:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (dynamic-84.max4-du-ws.dialnetwork.pavilion.co.uk [212.74.9.212]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107F7413F for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:08:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA16477; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 00:32:36 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00474; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:53:41 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200002111653.QAA00474@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "John Angelmo" Cc: "freebsd-isp @ Freebsd.org" , brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: pppoe as ISP In-Reply-To: Message from "John Angelmo" of "Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:34:35 +0100." <004401bf73d3$f47ba1e0$0201a8c0@telia.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:53:41 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [.....] > bash-2.03# /usr/libexec/pppoed -Fd -p telia vr0 > Sending NGM_LISTHOOKS to vr0: > Got reply from id [1]: Type ether with 0 hooks > Send MKPEER: vr0:orphans -> [type pppoe]:ethernet > Sending PPPOE_LISTEN to .:pppoe-1951, provider telia > pppoed[1951]: Listening as provider telia > pppoed[1951]: Got 60 bytes of data: ffffffffffff0000f8780bbd886311090000000401010000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 > pppoed[1951]: Listening as provider telia > pppoed[1953]: Creating a new socket node > pppoed[1953]: Sending CONNECT from .:exec-1953 -> vr0:orphans.exec-1953 > pppoed[1953]: Sending NGM_SOCK_CMD_NOLINGER to socket > pppoed[1953]: Offering to .:exec-1953 as access concentrator lisa > pppoed[1953]: Sending original request to .:exec-1953 (60 bytes) > pppoed[1953]: Waiting for a SUCCESS reply .:exec-1953 > pppoed[1953]: Received NGM_PPPOE_SUCCESS (hook "exec-1953") > pppoed[1953]: Executing: exec /usr/sbin/ppp -direct telia > Feb 10 14:41:05 lisa ppp[1953]: tun0: Warning: Unindented command (/etc/ppp/ppp.conf line 33) - ignored > Feb 10 14:41:05 lisa ppp[1953]: tun0: Warning: deflink: Reducing MRU to 1492 [.....] What does your ppp.conf look like and what does tcpdump say ? > Does any1 have any hints? > > /John -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 11 23:30:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from Kitten.mcs.net (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0573F41 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 23:30:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcs.net (dgobe.pr.mcs.net [204.137.234.195]) by Kitten.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA02958 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 01:09:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dgobe@mcs.net) Message-ID: <38A506F9.F402F9D@mcs.net> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 01:08:41 -0600 From: "David A. Gobeille" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: DSL firewall and DNS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Sorry if this is off topic, but I assume many of you have experience with setting up similar configurations for your customers. I would like to setup a FreeBSD 3.4 box as a firewall and also use it to provide DNS service. The box will have two interfaces, pn0 and pn1, and I have been assigned a /29 address block. pn0 will attach to the internal network and will use 192.168.2.254/24 as it's address. pn1 will attach to the DSL modem and use two of the assigned addresses, e.g. 200.1.2.50/29 & 200.1.2.51/32 (alias). The relevant rc.conf lines: network_interfaces= "pn0 pn1 lo0" ifconfig_pn0= "inet 192.168.2.254 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_pn1= "inet 200.1.2.50 netmask 255.255.255.248" ifconfig_pn1_alias0="inet 200.1.2.51 netmask 255.255.255.255" Will using the named configuration below satisfy the following requirements? 1. When I register "company.com" with a registrar, will I be able to use 200.1.2.50 & 51 as my name server addresses? (I understand the fault tolerance issues and I only have one computer for now, I want the single machine to appear as two distinct name servers.) 2. Internal machines can query for addresses on the internal LAN and any Internet hosts. 3. Any Internet host can query the domain for addresses using the 200.1.2.48/29 address block. Configuration files for named: (feel free to make comments or correct any errors in the configuration :-) ****************************** named.conf options { directory "/etc/namedb"; forwarders { isp's dns server; ditto; }; }; zone "." { type hint; file "named.root"; }; zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" { type master; file "localhost.rev"; }; zone "company.com" { type master; file "company.com"; }; zone "2.168.192.in-addr.arpa" { type master; file "company.com.rev"; }; zone"48/29.2.1.200.in-addr.arpa" { type master; file "external.rev"; }; ***************************************** ************************************ localhost.rev @ IN SOA fw.company.com. root.company.com. ( 1998051000 ; Serial 3600 ; Refresh 900 ; Retry 3600000 ; Expire 3600 ) ; Minimum IN NS ns1.company.com. IN NS ns2.company.com. 1 IN PTR localhost.company.com. ************************************ ************************************ company.com company.com. IN SOA fw.company.com. root.company.com. ( 1998060101 ; Serial 86400 ; Refresh 7200 ; Retry 8640000 ; Expire 86400 ) ; Minimum ;name servers IN NS ns1 IN NS ns2 ns1 IN A 200.1.2.50 ns2 IN A 200.1.2.51 ; Hosts localhost IN A 127.0.0.1 fw IN A 192.168.2.254 internal IN A 192.168.2.1 external IN A 200.1.2.52 ************************************ ************************************ company.com.rev @ IN SOA fw.company.com. root.company.com. ( 1998080700 ; Serial 86400 ; Refresh 7200 ; Retry 8640000 ; Expire 86400 ) ; Minimum ;name servers IN NS ns1.company.com. IN NS ns2.company.com. ; PTR records 1 IN PTR internal.company.com. 254 IN PTR fw.company.com. ************************************ ************************************ external.rev $ORIGIN 48/29.2.1.200.in-addr.arpa. @ IN SOA fw.company.com. root.company.com. (...) @ NS ns1.company.com. @ IN NS ns2.company.com. 50 PTR ns1.company.com. 51 PTR ns2.company.com. 52 PTR external.company.com. ************************************ Any help is most welcome, thanks. -- Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 12 6:59:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2093DFB for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 06:59:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (2127 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 08:56:35 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #1 built 1999-Aug-7) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 08:56:34 -0600 (CST) From: James Wyatt To: Andrzej Bialecki Cc: Mitch Collinsworth , spork , Dominik Brettnacher , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Amanda [was: Arkeia Server under FreeBSD] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I wish they would make one. The ADSM servers at one of our customers have tons of capacity and handle most of the 200 or so AIX boxes very well. I would love to have a 'non-commercial license is free' version that would handle my AIX, FreeBSD, Windows and Linux machines here. The first stage cache is a set of drives. It hits the tape immediately, but a restore of config or source files is fast if they change often. It drives tape libraries the size of a rack cabinet or as small as a shoe box. It ensures that consecutive backups are on different tapes and tracks how much usage *each* tape and drive has had for maintenance. It's GUI could be improved, but I use the command-line-restore-of-previous-file feature (Homer mode 8{) most often. It has removed a *lot* of worry over backups and helped us evangelize to the mainframers that Unix can do tape management beyond 'tar' to 8mm... Having it on FreeBSD would improve conversations reguarding it's use there. - Jy@ On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Mitch Collinsworth wrote: > > I haven't looked at it closely but I think IBM's ADSM does most or all > > of this. Of course it's aimed at the enterprise. > > There is no FreeBSd client. The Linux client behaves strange enough that > it makes me uncomfortable to use it for production system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 12 7:29:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from Kitten.mcs.net (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7284A3E27 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 07:29:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcs.net (dgobe.pr.mcs.net [204.137.234.195]) by Kitten.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA43324; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 09:29:31 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dgobe@mcs.net) Message-ID: <38A57C35.92F761E1@mcs.net> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 09:28:53 -0600 From: "David A. Gobeille" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ingrid@cityscope.net Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DSL firewall and DNS References: <38A506F9.F402F9D@mcs.net> <38A526EB.FF16E3C0@cityscope.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ingrid Kast Fuller wrote: > > You can't use private IP numbers (192...) for Internet DNS, only > Internal network. > Please read the question again, I think it's very clear I don't intend to do that. Internal network will, of course, use NAT to communicate with Internet hosts. -- Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 12 8: 9: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (ftp.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.106]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30FB43F92 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 08:08:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (tetron02.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.106]) by tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA90053 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 10:09:24 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from zeus@tetronsoftware.com) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 10:09:24 -0600 (CST) From: Gene Harris To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DSL firewall and DNS In-Reply-To: <38A506F9.F402F9D@mcs.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi David, First, to address the issue of DSL, you need to check with your service provider as to whether they will allow the use of your own DNS via DSL. Some will, some have provisions in their contract with you that you will be treated like a dial up account. To answer the question of DNS servers, you might be able to fake your way through, you might not. Some registrars ask you up front if you have two servers, etc. You also need to check with your service provider. Some service providers make you go thru them for registration, etc. They won't necessarily honor any commitment for routing addresses to your assigned ips, and some have been known to change your ip addresses if you do not work through them. Here in Oklahoma, DSL is regarded as a dial up service (as is ISDN), and most service providers will not allow you to have your own DNS Servers, News Feeds for INN, etc. UUNet at lease allows me to have my own Mail Servers, but they provide the DNS and I have to work through them for any domain name registrations because I have to use their DNS. (They have been very cooperative and responsive to adding A, MX and CNAME records, as well as doing reverse IP entries.) Southwestern Bell forces you to use their ISP if you sign up for DSL through them. While I don't know the exact T's and C's for their clients, it is not much different than my relationship with UUNet. (I have heard they are not as cooperative on adding entries to their DNS for their DSL clients.) I probably didn't answer any of your questions, but I hope my own experiences will help you ask all the right questions of your providers before you spend any money on registrations. *==============================================* *Gene Harris http://www.tetronsoftware.com* * Home of TeamAccess version control for * * Microsoft Office 97 and 2000 * * FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE - The Power to Serve * * Redhat 6.1 Secure Web Server * *==============================================* On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, David A. Gobeille wrote: > Hello, > > Sorry if this is off topic, but I assume many of you have > experience with setting up similar configurations for your > customers. > > I would like to setup a FreeBSD 3.4 box as a firewall and also > use it to provide DNS service. The box will have two interfaces, > pn0 and pn1, and I have been assigned a /29 address block. > > pn0 will attach to the internal network and will use > 192.168.2.254/24 as it's address. > > pn1 will attach to the DSL modem and use two of the assigned > addresses, e.g. 200.1.2.50/29 & 200.1.2.51/32 (alias). > > The relevant rc.conf lines: > > network_interfaces= "pn0 pn1 lo0" > ifconfig_pn0= "inet 192.168.2.254 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_pn1= "inet 200.1.2.50 netmask 255.255.255.248" > ifconfig_pn1_alias0="inet 200.1.2.51 netmask 255.255.255.255" > > > Will using the named configuration below satisfy the following > requirements? > > 1. When I register "company.com" with a registrar, will > I be able to use 200.1.2.50 & 51 as my name server > addresses? (I understand the fault tolerance issues > and I only have one computer for now, I want the single > machine to appear as two distinct name servers.) > > 2. Internal machines can query for addresses on the > internal LAN and any Internet hosts. > > 3. Any Internet host can query the domain for addresses > using the 200.1.2.48/29 address block. > > > Configuration files for named: (feel free to make comments or correct > any errors in the configuration :-) > ****************************** named.conf > options { > directory "/etc/namedb"; > > forwarders { > isp's dns server; > ditto; > }; > }; > > zone "." { > type hint; > file "named.root"; > }; > > zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" { > type master; > file "localhost.rev"; > }; > > zone "company.com" { > type master; > file "company.com"; > }; > > zone "2.168.192.in-addr.arpa" { > type master; > file "company.com.rev"; > }; > > zone"48/29.2.1.200.in-addr.arpa" { > type master; > file "external.rev"; > }; > ***************************************** > > ************************************ localhost.rev > @ IN SOA fw.company.com. root.company.com. ( > 1998051000 ; Serial > 3600 ; Refresh > 900 ; Retry > 3600000 ; Expire > 3600 ) ; Minimum > IN NS ns1.company.com. > IN NS ns2.company.com. > 1 IN PTR localhost.company.com. > ************************************ > > ************************************ company.com > company.com. IN SOA fw.company.com. root.company.com. ( > 1998060101 ; Serial > 86400 ; Refresh > 7200 ; Retry > 8640000 ; Expire > 86400 ) ; Minimum > > ;name servers > IN NS ns1 > IN NS ns2 > ns1 IN A 200.1.2.50 > ns2 IN A 200.1.2.51 > > ; Hosts > localhost IN A 127.0.0.1 > fw IN A 192.168.2.254 > internal IN A 192.168.2.1 > external IN A 200.1.2.52 > ************************************ > > ************************************ company.com.rev > @ IN SOA fw.company.com. root.company.com. ( > 1998080700 ; Serial > 86400 ; Refresh > 7200 ; Retry > 8640000 ; Expire > 86400 ) ; Minimum > > ;name servers > IN NS ns1.company.com. > IN NS ns2.company.com. > > ; PTR records > 1 IN PTR internal.company.com. > 254 IN PTR fw.company.com. > ************************************ > > ************************************ external.rev > $ORIGIN 48/29.2.1.200.in-addr.arpa. > @ IN SOA fw.company.com. root.company.com. (...) > @ NS ns1.company.com. > @ IN NS ns2.company.com. > > 50 PTR ns1.company.com. > 51 PTR ns2.company.com. > 52 PTR external.company.com. > ************************************ > > > > Any help is most welcome, thanks. > > -- > > Dave > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 12 8:22:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (blaubaer.kn-bremen.de [195.37.179.254]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF40F3D3F for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 08:22:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (uucp@localhost) by blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id RAA00598; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:17:13 +0100 Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.9.3/8.8.5) id RAA53443; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:21:17 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:21:17 +0100 (CET) From: Juergen Lock Message-Id: <200002121621.RAA53443@saturn.kn-bremen.de> To: up@3.am Subject: Re: Amanda X-Newsgroups: local.list.freebsd.isp In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.6.32.20000211081851.007bcaf0@mail.seidata.com> Organization: home Cc: Paul Boehmer , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org (hey now thats a cool mail address... :) In article you write: >On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Paul Boehmer wrote: >... >> What is needed is a good front end for Amanda, either console or X11. I >> have not been able to find one available for FreeBSD. If someone knows >> about one or is currently working on one, I think we would all appreciate >> hearing about it. > >I can think of alot of other things it could use before that...such as an >the ability to work through ssh, an option to append multiple backups to >the same tape, a good working option to do backups to disk, etc. And don't forget the still missing support for dumps larger than a tape, this is why we can't use amanda on the dds3 changer, our raid filesystems are bigger than one tape. :( (and then with a bit of hacking home users without a tape could probably also dump/tar to CD-R(W)s...) Regards, -- Juergen Lock (remove dot foo from address to reply) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 12 8:39:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from lily.ezo.net (lily.ezo.net [206.102.130.13]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027423EBA for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 08:39:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from lily.ezo.net (jflowers@localhost.ezo.net [127.0.0.1]) by lily.ezo.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA28243; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 11:39:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 11:39:13 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Flowers To: Gene Harris Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DSL firewall and DNS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I didn't get in on the beginning of this but from what I have read it doesn't seem to be too difficult. You can easily set up dns records for your internal private IP numbers and hosts on your network will use them just fine. It is probably best to use your ISP (and his two servers) for external dns but you can also roll your own public IP dns using the ISP for the secondary server. That way you can edit your own records. One way or another, you have to register if you want the world to find them. Two servers on one host? I have never tried this because hardware is so cheap and FreeBSD works so well but I don't think it should be a problem. Set your outside dns process to listen to port 5353 and your inside dns to listen to port 53. Then just use natd -redirect_port to match packets coming in on your outside interface and change the port to 5353. Then you need two different sets of information so use -b flag to identify the appropriate boot file. Use the lo0 interface and/or natd along with /etc/resolv.conf to determine which the dns host will use when acting as a client. Or, if you don't care about what information you give the public, just run one dns server including both public and private addresses, they can't use the private ones for much, anyway. But I would still buy another $400 box. Jim Flowers #4 ISP on C|NET, #1 in Ohio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 12 8:47:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from Kitten.mcs.net (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101423F26 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 08:47:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcs.net (dgobe.pr.mcs.net [204.137.234.195]) by Kitten.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA50033; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 10:47:05 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dgobe@mcs.net) Message-ID: <38A58E63.993B5837@mcs.net> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 10:46:27 -0600 From: "David A. Gobeille" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gene Harris Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DSL firewall and DNS References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gene Harris wrote: > > Hi David, > > First, to address the issue of DSL, you need to check with > your service provider as to whether they will allow the use > of your own DNS via DSL. Some will, some have provisions in > their contract with you that you will be treated like a dial > up account. > This will be for a "business class" DSL account and you are allowed to run whatever servers/services you like. (Not a $50/mo. account) > To answer the question of DNS servers, you might be able to > fake your way through, you might not. Some registrars ask > you up front if you have two servers, etc. You also need to > check with your service provider. Some service providers > make you go thru them for registration, etc. They won't > necessarily honor any commitment for routing addresses to > your assigned ips, and some have been known to change your > ip addresses if you do not work through them. > The service provider in this case will let you run your own DNS and they have been very cooperative thus far. [snip] > > I probably didn't answer any of your questions, but I hope > my own experiences will help you ask all the right questions > of your providers before you spend any money on > registrations. > Thank you, always interested to hear other people's experiences. > *==============================================* > *Gene Harris http://www.tetronsoftware.com* > * Home of TeamAccess version control for * > * Microsoft Office 97 and 2000 * > * FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE - The Power to Serve * > * Redhat 6.1 Secure Web Server * > *==============================================* > -- Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 12 9:25: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (ftp.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.106]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D913F8D for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 09:24:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (tetron02.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.106]) by tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA90231; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 11:25:20 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from zeus@tetronsoftware.com) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 11:25:20 -0600 (CST) From: Gene Harris To: "David A. Gobeille" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DSL firewall and DNS In-Reply-To: <38A58E63.993B5837@mcs.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, David A. Gobeille wrote: > Gene Harris wrote: > > > > Hi David, > > > > First, to address the issue of DSL, you need to check with > > your service provider as to whether they will allow the use > > of your own DNS via DSL. Some will, some have provisions in > > their contract with you that you will be treated like a dial > > up account. > > > > This will be for a "business class" DSL account and you are > allowed to run whatever servers/services you like. > (Not a $50/mo. account) *grin* Sounds like the isp is just more accomodating. A "business" account here buys you the same service as a home user for more money and 24X7 almost all the time service. ;-) Now that I have a better idea about your service, you'll be a lot better off letting the isp be your 2nd DNS server. That way, if your machine blows up, folks can still view your web site, send you email, etc. [remainder snipped for brevity] Gene To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 12 10: 9:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456243D0F for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 10:09:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (1398 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 12:05:19 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #1 built 1999-Aug-7) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 12:05:19 -0600 (CST) From: James Wyatt To: Gene Harris Cc: "David A. Gobeille" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DSL firewall and DNS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Gene Harris answered David A. Gobeille's DSL/DNS questions with: [ ... ] > Now that I have a better idea about your service, you'll be > a lot better off letting the isp be your 2nd DNS server. > That way, if your machine blows up, folks can still view > your web site, send you email, etc. Or have your ISP secondary from your primary DNS server on your DSL and put their servers on the InterNic records... You will also have fewer folks trying to hack your primary DNS server when it isn't listed. 8{) It lets you update easily while providing more reliable and faster DNS host. (Not to knock your host, but the link adds a hop or two, a dozen or so mS, and more pieces) Always reduce the path to DNS servers... - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 12 10:15:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jerry.katrinet.se (jerry.katrinet.se [195.58.109.130]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0A33FC6 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 10:15:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.katrinet.se [127.0.0.1]) by jerry.katrinet.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id B534A2D95; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 19:15:34 +0100 (CET) To: abial@webgiro.com Cc: mkc@Graphics.Cornell.EDU, spork@super-g.com, domi@saargate.de, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Amanda [was: Arkeia Server under FreeBSD] In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:54:42 +0100 (CET)" References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on Emacs 20.3 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20000212191533X.tom@jerry.katrinet.se> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 19:15:33 +0100 From: Tom Backman X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 16 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: Andrzej Bialecki > On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Mitch Collinsworth wrote: > > > I haven't looked at it closely but I think IBM's ADSM does most or all > > of this. Of course it's aimed at the enterprise. > > There is no FreeBSd client. The Linux client behaves strange enough that > it makes me uncomfortable to use it for production system. I have never tried to run the Linux client, but i have been running the SCO client for some time. It has performed flawlessly, and have helped me restore lost files a few times. / Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 12 10:29:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from boris.netgate.net (boris2.netgate.net [204.145.147.155]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292803F21 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 10:29:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (wellsian@localhost) by boris.netgate.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA42754; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 10:26:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wellsian@caffeine.com) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 10:26:34 -0800 (PST) From: wellsian X-Sender: wellsian@boris.netgate.net To: James Wyatt Cc: Gene Harris , "David A. Gobeille" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DSL firewall and DNS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is exactly what I've wanted to do for a couple installations, but I haven't felt secure about misrepresenting the primary/secondary relationship. Are there any technical reasons not to do what James suggests? Thanks, Dave On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, James Wyatt wrote: > On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Gene Harris answered David A. Gobeille's DSL/DNS > questions with: > [ ... ] > > Now that I have a better idea about your service, you'll be > > a lot better off letting the isp be your 2nd DNS server. > > That way, if your machine blows up, folks can still view > > your web site, send you email, etc. > > Or have your ISP secondary from your primary DNS server on your DSL and > put their servers on the InterNic records... You will also have fewer > folks trying to hack your primary DNS server when it isn't listed. 8{) > > It lets you update easily while providing more reliable and faster DNS > host. (Not to knock your host, but the link adds a hop or two, a dozen or > so mS, and more pieces) Always reduce the path to DNS servers... - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 12 10:31:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from altair.origenbio.com (altair.origenbio.com [216.30.62.130]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B263F76 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 10:31:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from origen.com (dubhe.origen [192.168.0.5]) by altair.origenbio.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA20277; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 12:31:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dmartin@origen.com) Message-ID: <38A5A67D.47F490D5@origen.com> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 12:29:17 -0600 From: Richard Martin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "David A. Gobeille" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DSL firewall and DNS References: <38A506F9.F402F9D@mcs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Setup looks OK > 1. When I register "company.com" with a registrar, will > I be able to use 200.1.2.50 & 51 as my name server > addresses? Short answer is yes, but that leaves you hanging by a thread. It might be better to have your ISP agree to run their system as a slave and leave yours as the master. Easy for both of you. There is another issue I haven't seen addressed and that is reverse DNS. To be authoritative for a small section of a network, you must have your ISP grant you authority in that block. Sorry I have misplaced the RFC, but look up info on 'Subdomains of in-addr.arpa domains'. Its in the OReilly book, too. > Configuration files for named: > options { > directory "/etc/namedb"; > > forwarders { > isp's dns server; > ditto; I would suggest adding these options as well allow-transfer (your slaves); fetch-glue no; allow-recursion (your nets, int and ext); to keep from giving away the phone book (other zone files ok) > > zone "2.168.192.in-addr.arpa" { > type master; > file "company.com.rev"; > }; This needs to come out. Best to run private network DNS addresses on the other side of the firewall, or thru hosts, netbios, etc. -- Richard Martin dmartin@origen.com OriGen Biomedical Tel: +1 512 474 7278 2525 Hartford Rd. Fax: +1 512 708 8522 Austin, TX 78703 http://www.cardiacdocs.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 12 12:49:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from Kitten.mcs.net (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A9D3F67 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 12:49:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcs.net (dgobe.pr.mcs.net [204.137.234.195]) by Kitten.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA69597; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 14:49:29 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dgobe@mcs.net) Message-ID: <38A5C733.7D748600@mcs.net> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 14:48:51 -0600 From: "David A. Gobeille" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Martin Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DSL firewall and DNS References: <38A506F9.F402F9D@mcs.net> <38A5A67D.47F490D5@origen.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Richard Martin wrote: > > Setup looks OK > > > 1. When I register "company.com" with a registrar, will > > I be able to use 200.1.2.50 & 51 as my name server > > addresses? > > Short answer is yes, but that leaves you hanging by a thread. It might be > better to have your ISP agree to run their system as a slave and leave yours > as the master. Easy for both of you. > > There is another issue I haven't seen addressed and that is reverse DNS. To > be authoritative for a small section of a network, you must have your ISP > grant you authority in that block. Sorry I have misplaced the RFC, but look > up info on 'Subdomains of in-addr.arpa domains'. Its in the OReilly book, > too. RFC2317 describes in-addr.arpa delegation on non-octet boundaries. I had that in the configuration posted. (but I have not talked with the ISP yet to see if they would delegate that zone) > > Configuration files for named: > > options { > > directory "/etc/namedb"; > > > > forwarders { > > isp's dns server; > > ditto; > > I would suggest adding these options as well > > allow-transfer (your slaves); > fetch-glue no; > allow-recursion (your nets, int and ext); > > to keep from giving away the phone book > > > (other zone files ok) > > > > > zone "2.168.192.in-addr.arpa" { > > type master; > > file "company.com.rev"; > > }; > > This needs to come out. Best to run private network DNS addresses on the > other side of the firewall, or thru hosts, netbios, etc. > > -- > Richard Martin dmartin@origen.com > > OriGen Biomedical Tel: +1 512 474 7278 > 2525 Hartford Rd. Fax: +1 512 708 8522 > Austin, TX 78703 http://www.cardiacdocs.com Thanks for the info. After your reply and some others I think I will have the ISP do all or at least secondary DNS. -- Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 12 15: 3:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB254061 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 15:03:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.9.2/8.9.3) with UUCP id AAA66792 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 00:03:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.0.14]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA06751; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 23:57:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <03de01bf75ac$918991c0$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Reply-To: "Leif Neland" From: "Leif Neland" To: "wellsian" , "James Wyatt" Cc: "Gene Harris" , "David A. Gobeille" , References: Subject: Re: DSL firewall and DNS Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 23:56:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You won't be misrepresenting the primary/secondary relationship, as you = are never presenting this to the world anyway. Primary/secondary is a purely administatively distinction, which has = nothing to do with which nameservers you present to the world. The = primary is just the one you are maintaning your zone file on; the world = has no way of knowing (or at least cares not about) which one it is. You could even have only the secondaries listed and online, as long as = your primary is online once in a while to keep the secondaries knowing = the zone is still valid. =20 > This is exactly what I've wanted to do for a couple installations, but = I > haven't felt secure about misrepresenting the primary/secondary > relationship. Are there any technical reasons not to do what James > suggests? >=20 > Thanks, > Dave >=20 > On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, James Wyatt wrote: >=20 > > On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Gene Harris answered David A. Gobeille's = DSL/DNS > > questions with: > > [ ... ] > > > Now that I have a better idea about your service, you'll be > > > a lot better off letting the isp be your 2nd DNS server. > > > That way, if your machine blows up, folks can still view > > > your web site, send you email, etc. > >=20 > > Or have your ISP secondary from your primary DNS server on your DSL = and > > put their servers on the InterNic records... You will also have = fewer > > folks trying to hack your primary DNS server when it isn't listed. = 8{) > >=20 > > It lets you update easily while providing more reliable and faster = DNS > > host. (Not to knock your host, but the link adds a hop or two, a = dozen or > > so mS, and more pieces) Always reduce the path to DNS servers... - = Jy@ >=20 >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 12 15:21:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F06573E9F for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 15:21:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (2177 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:19:14 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #1 built 1999-Aug-7) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:19:14 -0600 (CST) From: James Wyatt To: wellsian Cc: Gene Harris , "David A. Gobeille" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DSL firewall and DNS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You aren't misrepresenting anything... You are listing the server folks should use most often (primary choice, not DNS master) and what to fall back on if it's too slow (dead = really too slow). Think of it as three nameservers, the most reachable two of which are listed. Now if someone asks you under oath who is master and slave, you should be careful - Jy@ On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, wellsian wrote: > This is exactly what I've wanted to do for a couple installations, but I > haven't felt secure about misrepresenting the primary/secondary > relationship. Are there any technical reasons not to do what James > suggests? > > On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, James Wyatt wrote: > > On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Gene Harris answered David A. Gobeille's DSL/DNS > > questions with: > > [ ... ] > > > Now that I have a better idea about your service, you'll be > > > a lot better off letting the isp be your 2nd DNS server. > > > That way, if your machine blows up, folks can still view > > > your web site, send you email, etc. > > > > Or have your ISP secondary from your primary DNS server on your DSL and > > put their servers on the InterNic records... You will also have fewer > > folks trying to hack your primary DNS server when it isn't listed. 8{) > > > > It lets you update easily while providing more reliable and faster DNS > > host. (Not to knock your host, but the link adds a hop or two, a dozen or > > so mS, and more pieces) Always reduce the path to DNS servers... - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 12 15:26:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from boris.netgate.net (boris2.netgate.net [204.145.147.155]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C50D03F7D for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 15:26:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (wellsian@localhost) by boris.netgate.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16690; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 15:23:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wellsian@caffeine.com) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 15:23:33 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Wells X-Sender: wellsian@boris.netgate.net To: James Wyatt Cc: Gene Harris , "David A. Gobeille" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DSL firewall and DNS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Great. Thanks to James and Leif for clearing this up. On my way to pick up the bind book. :) Thanks again. TA, Dave On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, James Wyatt wrote: > Subject: Re: DSL firewall and DNS > > You aren't misrepresenting anything... You are listing the server folks > should use most often (primary choice, not DNS master) and what to fall > back on if it's too slow (dead = really too slow). Think of it as three > nameservers, the most reachable two of which are listed. Now if someone > asks you under oath who is master and slave, you should be careful - Jy@ > > On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, wellsian wrote: > > This is exactly what I've wanted to do for a couple installations, but I > > haven't felt secure about misrepresenting the primary/secondary > > relationship. Are there any technical reasons not to do what James > > suggests? k To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 13 9:14:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from elwood.akitanet.co.uk (elwood.akitanet.co.uk [212.1.130.149]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82EDA4287 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 09:14:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from elwood.akitanet.co.uk (elwood.akitanet.co.uk [212.1.130.149]) by elwood.akitanet.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA08464; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:21:42 GMT Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:21:42 +0000 (GMT) From: Paul Robinson To: Mark Conway Wirt Cc: Inix ZixinG , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Email Server In-Reply-To: <20000211131006.L7592@intrepid.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Mark Conway Wirt wrote: > People will swear by (and at!) > > sendmail Don't play with this one unless you want to read the O'Reilley book, or if your customers are going to be telnetting into the box... although there is loads of documentation for sendmail, it's buggy, over-complicated to configure, and less flexible than other solutions. > qmail Main advantage to qmail is the maildir format, which if you want to be able to have 2-3 mail servers and pop servers sharing the spools via NFS avoids all sorts of locking issues... > postfix Over-simplified and not mature yet. Has potential though. One program that is worthy of looking at which always gets missed is exim (www.exim.org)... it is *very* well documented, and is designed in such a way that you can configure your mail servers to do practically anything you want due to the modularisation... take note of the hints about table-driven delivery, so users don't have to have entries in /etc/passwd... system authentication only scales to about 64k users, and above 10k users, things grind to a halt... trust me... think about driving everything from mySQL or something... (and yes, I did nick the sig from slashdot, cos whoever thought of it was a genius)... :) -- Paul Robinson - Developer/Systems Administrator @ Akitanet Internet ------------------------------------------------------------------- E-m: paul@akitanet.co.uk | FreeBSD-4.0 Monopoly :- Tel: +44 (0) 161 228 6388 | Go directly to jail() ---------------------------| Do not pass /var/go http://www.akitanet.co.uk/ | Do not bind to 200.*.*.* IP addresses To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 13 10:42:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from nemesis.oss.uswest.net (nemesis.oss.uswest.net [204.147.85.27]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D4231406E for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 10:42:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 78929 invoked by uid 101); 13 Feb 2000 18:42:23 -0000 Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 12:42:23 -0600 From: Christopher Uy To: Paul Robinson Cc: Mark Conway Wirt , Inix ZixinG , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Email Server Message-ID: <20000213124223.A78881@uswest.net> References: <20000211131006.L7592@intrepid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from "wigstah@akitanet.co.uk" on Sun, Feb 13, 2000 at 05:21:42PM Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Feb 13, 2000 at 05:21:42PM +0000, Paul Robinson wrote: > On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Mark Conway Wirt wrote: > > > People will swear by (and at!) > > > > sendmail > > Don't play with this one unless you want to read the O'Reilley book, or > if your customers are going to be telnetting into the box... although > there is loads of documentation for sendmail, it's buggy, over-complicated > to configure, and less flexible than other solutions. > Why would you have to read the entire O'Reilley book to do what he was originally asking to do? The documentation that comes with the distribution should be more than sufficient for setting up his original requirements. As far as telnetting into the box, I'm not sure why sendmail relates here? If its with regards to compatibility with MUAs, the other MTAs mentioned (i.e. qmail and postfix) can "emulate" sendmail commands and can be used in conjunction with most popular clients to send mail. And while I do agree that it's probably over-complicated for detailed configuring, I would argue that it's probably the _most_ flexible of all the solutions. > > qmail > > Main advantage to qmail is the maildir format, which if you want to be > able to have 2-3 mail servers and pop servers sharing the spools via NFS > avoids all sorts of locking issues... > > > postfix > > Over-simplified and not mature yet. Has potential though. I'd say the main advantage to qmail and postfix are that they're both known to be very secure. Qmail had an unclaimed prize of $10,000 (I think) to anyone that could prove that it wasn't secure. Postfix was written by Wietse Venema who authored tcp wrappers, SATAN, and various other security utilities. Qmail is a probably a little more mature than postfix in that it's been around longer. Man people prefer postfix because it's probably a better "drop-in" replacement for sendmail. Both can support delivering mail in Maildir format, though. - chris -- Christopher Uy U S WEST Internet Services Systems Engineer 600 Stinson Blvd. 3S E-mail: cuy@uswest.net Minneapolis, MN 55413 "The Two Rules of Success: 1. Don't tell everything you know." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 13 10:49:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web3305.mail.yahoo.com (web3305.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.201.147]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9417F4174 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 10:49:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20000213184924.14585.qmail@web3305.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.216.111.43] by web3305.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 10:49:24 PST Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 10:49:24 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Urban Subject: Need recomendations on servers. To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We are looking into starting up a small ISP to provide filtered internet access to our area. We will also offer web hosting services. Because of the filtering, we will need to run a proxy server, and we will also be providing a real audio feed for a local radio station. My question is is this: We are on a rather tight budget to start out with. What would be the best congiguration to handle this set up? I was thinking of starting with 4 servers (All running FreeBSD of course). One for PPP dial up and email, the second running the web server, the third running the proxy server, and the fourth running the real audio server. Can anyone give me and ideas on whether this is the best way to go? And if not, can anyone recommend a better way? Also, what is the best way to provide intially, 24 dial up connections. I assume a multi-port serial card, and then just hooking up 24 digital modems. But that part is kind of new to me. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 13 12:13:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bilver.magicnet.net (mxdi45.vwtc.com [207.224.18.122]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DAC640EC for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 12:13:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.magicnet.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA22359 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:54:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:54:14 -0500 From: Bill Vermillion To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Email Server Message-ID: <20000213145413.A22276@bilver.magicnet.net> Reply-To: bv@wjv.com References: <20000211131006.L7592@intrepid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from wigstah@akitanet.co.uk on Sun, Feb 13, 2000 at 05:21:42PM +0000 Sent-from: bv@wjv.com Organization: Vermillion Consulting Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Feb 13, 2000 at 05:21:42PM +0000, Thus Spake Paul Robinson: > On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Mark Conway Wirt wrote: > > People will swear by (and at!) > > sendmail > Don't play with this one unless you want to read the O'Reilley > book, or if your customers are going to be telnetting into the > box... although there is loads of documentation for sendmail, it's > buggy, over-complicated to configure, and less flexible than other > solutions. The newest versions aren't that hard to configure. Bugs certainly aren't as bad as in the past. I moved from sendmail to smail back in about 1990 or so - as it was a pain - but moved back in about 1996. Haven't really used any others except falling over a stupid things called MMDF in SCO once - and vowed never to touch that one again. I'll try to look at the others you mentioned - if for nothing more than self-education. Thanks Bill -- Bill Vermillion bv @ wjv.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 13 13:22: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.jjsoft.com (fig2.figdav.com [208.152.114.19]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE093ED1 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 13:22:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns2.jjsoft.com (ns2.jjsoft.com [208.152.114.19]) by ns2.jjsoft.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id PAA08702 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:19:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:19:26 -0600 (CST) From: Jahanur R Subedar To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Rsh not working. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Folks, I am trying to use the rcp command to copy files between two different systems under same domain. This is what my steps are: 1) Edited the hosts.equiv 2) Edited the .rhosts file. I do have the same password in both machines. When ever I try to do rsh to any of the machine, it asks for the password. I have unmarked the line inetd to use the rshd. Do I need to reboot the system. Or please hint. Jahanur R Subedar WWW.JJSOFT.COM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 13 14:16:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.knight-trosoft.com (mail.knight-trosoft.com [209.180.70.2]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72CE13ED1 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:16:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by mail.knight-trosoft.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA66139; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:16:46 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from johnp) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:16:46 -0600 (CST) From: John Prince Message-Id: <200002132216.QAA66139@mail.knight-trosoft.com> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, jahanur@jjsoft.com Subject: Re: Rsh not working. In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello.. Any of the following should work.. You must be root or sudo, etc.. killall -1 inetd kill -1 `cat /var/run/inetd.pid` cat /var/run/inetd.pid |xargs kill -1 Good Luck.. --john > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 13 15:22:44 2000 > Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:19:26 -0600 (CST) > From: Jahanur R Subedar > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Rsh not working. > > > Hi Folks, > > I am trying to use the rcp command to copy files between two different > systems under same domain. > This is what my steps are: > 1) Edited the hosts.equiv > 2) Edited the .rhosts file. > I do have the same password in both machines. > When ever I try to do rsh to any of the machine, it asks for the password. > I have unmarked the line inetd to use the rshd. > Do I need to reboot the system. > Or please hint. > > Jahanur R Subedar > WWW.JJSOFT.COM > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 13 14:50:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1C84269 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:50:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA81002; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:50:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <38A73552.F735AFA4@gorean.org> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:50:58 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT-0927 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jahanur R Subedar Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Rsh not working. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jahanur R Subedar wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > I am trying to use the rcp command to copy files between two different > systems under same domain. > This is what my steps are: > 1) Edited the hosts.equiv > 2) Edited the .rhosts file. > I do have the same password in both machines. > When ever I try to do rsh to any of the machine, it asks for the password. > I have unmarked the line inetd to use the rshd. I am not sure if rcp uses the shell or the login line in inetd.conf, but I'd try uncommenting both, and make sure to hup inetd afterwards. Also, for future reference questions of this nature belong on freebsd-questions. Good luck, Doug -- "Welcome to the desert of the real." - Laurence Fishburne as Morpheus, "The Matrix" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 13 15: 1:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.jjsoft.com (fig2.figdav.com [208.152.114.19]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A2C53D35 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:01:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns2.jjsoft.com (ns2.jjsoft.com [208.152.114.19]) by ns2.jjsoft.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA08954; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:58:25 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:58:24 -0600 (CST) From: Jahanur R Subedar To: John Prince Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Rsh not working. In-Reply-To: <200002132216.QAA66139@mail.knight-trosoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks Very much. On Sun, 13 Feb 2000, John Prince wrote: > Hello.. > Any of the following should work.. > You must be root or sudo, etc.. > killall -1 inetd > kill -1 `cat /var/run/inetd.pid` > cat /var/run/inetd.pid |xargs kill -1 > Good Luck.. > --john > > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 13 15:22:44 2000 > > Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:19:26 -0600 (CST) > > From: Jahanur R Subedar > > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Rsh not working. > > > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > I am trying to use the rcp command to copy files between two different > > systems under same domain. > > This is what my steps are: > > 1) Edited the hosts.equiv > > 2) Edited the .rhosts file. > > I do have the same password in both machines. > > When ever I try to do rsh to any of the machine, it asks for the password. > > I have unmarked the line inetd to use the rshd. > > Do I need to reboot the system. > > Or please hint. > > > > Jahanur R Subedar > > WWW.JJSOFT.COM > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > Jahanur R Subedar WWW.JJSOFT.COM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 13 15: 1:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.jjsoft.com (fig2.figdav.com [208.152.114.19]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B63421C for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:01:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns2.jjsoft.com (ns2.jjsoft.com [208.152.114.19]) by ns2.jjsoft.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA08959; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:58:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:58:54 -0600 (CST) From: Jahanur R Subedar To: Doug Barton Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Rsh not working. In-Reply-To: <38A73552.F735AFA4@gorean.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thank you too. Let me try do kill hup. On Sun, 13 Feb 2000, Doug Barton wrote: > Jahanur R Subedar wrote: > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > I am trying to use the rcp command to copy files between two different > > systems under same domain. > > This is what my steps are: > > 1) Edited the hosts.equiv > > 2) Edited the .rhosts file. > > I do have the same password in both machines. > > When ever I try to do rsh to any of the machine, it asks for the password. > > I have unmarked the line inetd to use the rshd. > > I am not sure if rcp uses the shell or the login line in inetd.conf, > but I'd try uncommenting both, and make sure to hup inetd afterwards. > > Also, for future reference questions of this nature belong on > freebsd-questions. > > Good luck, > > Doug > -- > "Welcome to the desert of the real." > > - Laurence Fishburne as Morpheus, "The Matrix" > Jahanur R Subedar WWW.JJSOFT.COM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 13 15:15:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from copernicus.acol.com (copernicus.acol.com [216.204.50.170]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A472439B for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:15:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from 2ghz.net (ppp106.net-resource.com [216.204.46.106]) by copernicus.acol.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA23925; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 18:15:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38A73BB1.B71B96ED@2ghz.net> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 18:18:09 -0500 From: Adam Rheaume X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Urban Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Need recomendations on servers. References: <20000213184924.14585.qmail@web3305.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If you are going to do some thing like this with digital modems, IE ISDN, 56k v.90 stuff. You should probably look into using a terminal server and cistron radius on FreeBSD. The proxy stuff should be no problem to do. The terminal servers will allow you to have more growth potential and easier to trouble shoot etc. -=>Adam<=- Michael Urban wrote: > > We are looking into starting up a small ISP to provide filtered > internet access to our area. We will also offer web hosting services. > Because of the filtering, we will need to run a proxy server, and we > will also be providing a real audio feed for a local radio station. > > My question is is this: We are on a rather tight budget to start out > with. What would be the best congiguration to handle this set up? I > was thinking of starting with 4 servers (All running FreeBSD of > course). One for PPP dial up and email, the second running the web > server, the third running the proxy server, and the fourth running > the real audio server. Can anyone give me and ideas on whether this > is the best way to go? And if not, can anyone recommend a better way? > > Also, what is the best way to provide intially, 24 dial up > connections. I assume a multi-port serial card, and then just hooking > up 24 digital modems. But that part is kind of new to me. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Mike. > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- ----------------- System Tech www.acol.com 508-865-8561 ----------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 13 23:58:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from lilzcvp.liwest.at (lilzcvp.liwest.at [212.33.32.230]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 733143DAD for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 23:58:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.33.32.221] by lilzcvp.relay.liwest.at (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB8573.63.b914fe78) with ESMTP id nwnwaaaa for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:58:07 +0000 Received: by OFFICE1_LIWEST with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:57:06 +0100 Message-ID: <1F879C64A1A7D211B0F10004AC4C07FC119CEA@OFFICE1_LIWEST> From: Haider Roland To: "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: Another Email-server question. Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:57:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org While we're at it: What pop3/smtp servers are available that support kerberos authentication? Also an ftpd would be nice, and an Email/Ftp Client for Windows/MacOS. And finaly it should be available outside the u.s. Any suggestions? Cheers, Roland To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 14 0: 8:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from alydar.infoteam.com (alydar.infoteam.com [207.246.83.5]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096CE3E20 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 00:08:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by alydar.infoteam.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 916E75D7F; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 03:08:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 03:08:26 -0500 From: Kenn Martin To: "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Another Email-server question. Message-ID: <20000214030826.B13285@infoteam.com> References: <1F879C64A1A7D211B0F10004AC4C07FC119CEA@OFFICE1_LIWEST> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <1F879C64A1A7D211B0F10004AC4C07FC119CEA@OFFICE1_LIWEST>; from r.haider@liwest.at on Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 08:57:04AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 08:57:04AM +0100, Haider Roland wrote: > While we're at it: > > What pop3/smtp servers are available that support kerberos > authentication? Cyrus, http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/ and /usr/ports/mail/cyrus (doesn't really apply to SMTP). kenn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 14 0:25:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from spooky.eis.net.au (spooky.eis.net.au [203.12.171.2]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3C846B6 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 00:25:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ernie@localhost) by spooky.eis.net.au (8.9.3/8.8.3) id SAA16992 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:25:26 +1000 (EST) From: Ernie Elu Message-Id: <200002140825.SAA16992@spooky.eis.net.au> Subject: NMBCLUSTERS To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:25:25 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I got the following error on my squid proxy server machine today running 3.4-STABLE, I presume it's something common: /kernel: Out of mbuf clusters - adjust NMBCLUSTERS or increase maxusers! I have MAXUSERS 256 compiled in at the moment how far can I increase that? What other way can I adjust NMBCLUSTERS ? - Ernie. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 14 0:57: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from majestix.cmr.no (majestix.cmr.no [129.177.31.53]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2878C3D28 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 00:56:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from shark.cmr.no (shark.cmr.no [129.177.31.34]) by majestix.cmr.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA73394; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:56:31 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:56:31 +0100 (CET) From: Tom Lislegaard To: Ernie Elu Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NMBCLUSTERS In-Reply-To: <200002140825.SAA16992@spooky.eis.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org options NMBCLUSTERS=XXX Check your current settings with 'netstat -m'. -tom On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Ernie Elu wrote: > I got the following error on my squid proxy server machine today running > 3.4-STABLE, I presume it's something common: > > > > /kernel: Out of mbuf clusters - adjust NMBCLUSTERS or increase maxusers! > > I have MAXUSERS 256 compiled in at the moment how far can I increase that? > > What other way can I adjust NMBCLUSTERS ? > > > - Ernie. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 14 6:36:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from Samizdat.uucom.com (samizdat.uucom.com [198.202.217.54]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D44273ECA for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 06:36:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from cshenton@localhost) by Samizdat.uucom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA04407; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:36:11 -0500 (EST) To: Boris Tyshkiewitch Cc: Inix ZixinG , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Email Server References: <200002111536.HAA04712@www.geocrawler.com> <20000211185154.C77625@zenon.net> From: Chris Shenton Date: 14 Feb 2000 09:36:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: Boris Tyshkiewitch's message of "Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:51:54 +0300" Message-ID: Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:51:54 +0300, Boris Tyshkiewitch said: Boris> Try CommuniGatePro by Stalker Software Boris> (http://www.stalker.com). Ditto; very low effort to maintain. Can delegate ownership of virtual domains and mailing lists so your own sysadm doesn't have to. Very responsive company. Yeah, I could do it with sendmail/qmail, majordomo/ezmlm, but I'd still have to manage all those config files myself. If you've got some money and no time, try CGP. Free fully functional trial. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 14 7:22:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from nemesis.oss.uswest.net (nemesis.oss.uswest.net [204.147.85.27]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F20923E46 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 07:22:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 81524 invoked by uid 101); 14 Feb 2000 15:22:25 -0000 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:22:25 -0600 From: Christopher Uy To: Chris Shenton Cc: Boris Tyshkiewitch , Inix ZixinG , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Email Server Message-ID: <20000214092225.A81474@uswest.net> References: <200002111536.HAA04712@www.geocrawler.com> <20000211185154.C77625@zenon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from "cshenton@uucom.com" on Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 09:36:10AM Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 09:36:10AM -0500, Chris Shenton wrote: > On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:51:54 +0300, Boris Tyshkiewitch said: > > Boris> Try CommuniGatePro by Stalker Software > Boris> (http://www.stalker.com). > > Ditto; very low effort to maintain. Can delegate ownership of virtual > domains and mailing lists so your own sysadm doesn't have to. Very > responsive company. > > Yeah, I could do it with sendmail/qmail, majordomo/ezmlm, but I'd > still have to manage all those config files myself. If you've got > some money and no time, try CGP. Free fully functional trial. > As a side note, qmail can also allow for a user to maintain his own virtual domains and mailing lists using .qmail-* files in his/her home directory and using ezmlm. The initial setup of the virtual domain would require intervention by an administrator, but that's no different than someone having to setup his/her initial account. You could automate the setup of this when the user's account is created or easily create an interface by which they could do this themselves. - chris (whom, if you couldn't tell already, hates paying for anything that he can get for free :) -- Christopher Uy U S WEST Internet Services Systems Engineer 600 Stinson Blvd. 3S E-mail: cuy@uswest.net Minneapolis, MN 55413 "On the other hand, the early worm gets eaten." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 14 9: 2:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from laurel.us.net (laurel.us.net [198.240.72.4]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA3904B37 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:02:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jjw@localhost) by laurel.us.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA32134; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 12:02:48 -0500 (EST) X-Provider: US Net - Where Business Connects! (tm) - 301-361-USNET US Net Web Site: http://www.us.net/ or via Email: info@us.net From: John Woodruff Message-Id: <200002141702.MAA32134@laurel.us.net> Subject: Re: Amanda [was: Arkeia Server under FreeBSD] In-Reply-To: from James Wyatt at "Feb 12, 2000 08:56:34 am" To: James Wyatt Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 12:02:48 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Mitch Collinsworth wrote: > I haven't looked at it closely but I think IBM's ADSM does most or all > of this. Of course it's aimed at the enterprise. Had it at my last gig. Absolutely cool, best thing I'd ever seen. Of course, that was on all AIX and WindozeNT boxen. IBM is singing a Linux song, hence the Linux ADSM port. Unfortunately, since *BSD has no TokenRing drivers AFAIK, it's hard to find on an IBM campus. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 14 10: 7:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from c006.sfo.cp.net (c006-h007.c006.sfo.cp.net [209.228.14.143]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D0BA04C95 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:07:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (cpmta 13790 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2000 09:17:55 -0800 Received: from unknown (HELO apolo13) (200.38.233.36) by smtp.avantel.net with SMTP; 14 Feb 2000 09:17:55 -0800 X-Sent: 14 Feb 2000 17:17:55 GMT Message-ID: <00c201bf7710$25909e40$24e926c8@sdm.net.mx> From: "Ignacio Cristerna" To: "John Woodruff" , "James Wyatt" Cc: References: <200002141702.MAA32134@laurel.us.net> Subject: Re: Amanda [was: Arkeia Server under FreeBSD] Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:23:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Death to Token-Ring!!!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 14 11:59:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5404155 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:59:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (1544 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:50:46 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #1 built 1999-Aug-7) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:50:45 -0600 (CST) From: James Wyatt To: John Woodruff Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Amanda [was: Arkeia Server under FreeBSD] In-Reply-To: <200002141702.MAA32134@laurel.us.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, John Woodruff wrote: > On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Mitch Collinsworth wrote: > > I haven't looked at it closely but I think IBM's ADSM does most or all > > of this. Of course it's aimed at the enterprise. > > Had it at my last gig. Absolutely cool, best thing I'd ever seen. > Of course, that was on all AIX and WindozeNT boxen. IBM is singing > a Linux song, hence the Linux ADSM port. Unfortunately, since *BSD > has no TokenRing drivers AFAIK, it's hard to find on an IBM campus. IBM had the Linux client very early; well before their very visible shift toward Linux. They also had an MQSeries client for Linux a year or two ago. Those of us who noticed, were amazed and thought it was a 'just to prove we could connect to it' thing on their part. How I *wish* there was something like MQSeries in OpenSource form. It completely rocks on numerous platforms and connects all of them very well. If you have used DEC MessageQueues, you have the idea... - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 14 12:39:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from red.asis.com (red.asis.com [206.99.112.12]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD2C4030 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 12:39:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nella@localhost) by red.asis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17847 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 12:40:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nella@red.asis.com) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 12:40:11 -0800 (PST) From: Nella White To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: sendmail and spam prevention procedures Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi - I am using both Ipass Global Roaming network and a wholesaler of dialup access. These IPs need to be able to send mail through us, though I don't want to enable promiscuous relaying in Sendmail. I'd appreciate any suggestions about how to accomplish this. I have a file of IPs from my wholesaler that can be used to relay selectively, but despite reading the Sendmail docs, I don't know how to add the Sendmail rules for this. Ipass suggests using "POP before SMTP" to give the roamers' IPs temporary access to send mail. I'd appreciate pointers to how to accomplish this as well. Thanks, Nella To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 14 12:49:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.96.75]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5300541F1 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 12:49:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from baby.int.thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA39356; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:49:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from thehousleys.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby.int.thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA35647; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:49:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Message-ID: <38A86A75.9E4F51BF@thehousleys.net> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:49:57 -0500 From: James Housley Organization: The Housleys dot Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nella White Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail and spam prevention procedures References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nella White wrote: > > Hi - I am using both Ipass Global Roaming network and a wholesaler of > dialup access. These IPs need to be able to send mail through us, though I > don't want to enable promiscuous relaying in Sendmail. I'd appreciate any > suggestions about how to accomplish this. I have a file of IPs from my > wholesaler that can be used to relay selectively, but despite reading the > Sendmail docs, I don't know how to add the Sendmail rules for this. > > Ipass suggests using "POP before SMTP" to give the roamers' IPs temporary > access to send mail. I'd appreciate pointers to how to accomplish this as > well. You could look at the MAPS projects at http://maps.vix.com/ specifically DUL http://maps.vix.com/dul/ and create a list of local users (your roamers/customers). There are pointers on the DUL pages. Jim -- microsoft: "where do you want to go today?" linux: "where do you want to go tomorrow?" BSD: "are you guys coming, or what?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 14 13:14:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from benge.graphics.cornell.edu (benge.graphics.cornell.edu [128.84.247.43]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C474C17 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:14:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from benge.graphics.cornell.edu (mkc@localhost) by benge.graphics.cornell.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA54867; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:15:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mkc@benge.graphics.cornell.edu) Message-Id: <200002142115.QAA54867@benge.graphics.cornell.edu> To: Nella White Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail and spam prevention procedures In-Reply-To: Message from Nella White of "Mon, 14 Feb 2000 12:40:11 PST." Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:15:03 -0500 From: Mitch Collinsworth Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Hi - I am using both Ipass Global Roaming network and a wholesaler of >dialup access. These IPs need to be able to send mail through us, though I >don't want to enable promiscuous relaying in Sendmail. I'd appreciate any >suggestions about how to accomplish this. I have a file of IPs from my >wholesaler that can be used to relay selectively, but despite reading the >Sendmail docs, I don't know how to add the Sendmail rules for this. You can put allowed domain names or ip addresses in [] in /etc/mail/relay-domains. >Ipass suggests using "POP before SMTP" to give the roamers' IPs temporary >access to send mail. I'd appreciate pointers to how to accomplish this as >well. http://spam.abuse.net/tools/smPbS.html http://www.cynic.net/~cjs/computer/sendmail/poprelay.html -Mitch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 14 13:31:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from altair.origenbio.com (altair.origenbio.com [216.30.62.130]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C064D61 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:31:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from origen.com (dubhe.origen [192.168.0.5]) by altair.origenbio.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10482; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:31:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dmartin@origen.com) Message-ID: <38A873BB.703290DA@origen.com> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:29:31 -0600 From: Richard Martin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nella White Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail and spam prevention procedures References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Here's the page on Sendmail relaying: http://www.sendmail.org/tips/relaying.html There are several options there, you might find relay-domains easiest because you don't have to hash the database. -- Richard Martin dmartin@origen.com OriGen, inc. Tel: +1 512 474 7278 2525 Hartford Rd. Fax: +1 512 708 8522 Austin, TX 78703 http://www.formed.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 15 2:49:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.nexos.com.br (ns.nexos.com.br [200.223.94.67]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6342D431C for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 02:49:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from genipabu.nexos.com.br (ubu.nexos.com.br [200.223.94.75]) by ns.nexos.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03699 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 08:49:55 -0200 (BDB) (envelope-from josue@nexos.com.br) Received: from localhost (josue@localhost) by genipabu.nexos.com.br (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA73870 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 08:52:06 -0200 (BDB) (envelope-from josue@nexos.com.br) X-Authentication-Warning: genipabu.nexos.com.br: josue owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 08:52:06 -0200 (BDB) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Josu=E9_Jos=E9_Souza_Jr=2E?= To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FrontPage extensions on Apache Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I'm trying to install FrontPage 2000 extensions on apache 1.3.9 mod-SSL php 3.0, following Widdowson's article printed in Sys Admin (Feb/2000). I'm trying to manage which file should I use for FreeBSD 3.3 because there's no specific file for it at http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/languages/fp/2000/unixfpse.asp where the extenions are available for downloading. Also, it doesn't seem that fp_install.sh script have an entry for FreeBSD. Is there any documentation on how to install those extensions on FreeBSD? Thanks in advance, ------------------------------------------ Josu=E9 Jos=E9 Souza Jr. - Opera=E7=F5es e Suporte =20 josue@nexos.com.br Nexos Servi=E7os de Redes Ltda. http://www.nexos.com.br Salvador - Bahia - Brasil ------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 15 2:52:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.kit.net.au (kit.net.au [203.35.197.33]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93684288 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 02:52:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from workstation (workstation.kit.net.au [203.35.197.58]) by alpha.kit.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA17278 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 21:30:45 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from bruce@kit.net.au) Message-ID: <003a01bf773a$108f52a0$3ac523cb@workstation> From: "Bruce Piper" To: Subject: Billing software Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 09:23:05 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can anyone recommend billing software for a (very small) ISP - about 50 subscribers? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 15 2:52:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.kit.net.au (kit.net.au [203.35.197.33]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50BE04194 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 02:52:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from workstation (workstation.kit.net.au.197.35.203.IN-ADDR.ARPA [203.35.197.58] (may be forged)) by alpha.kit.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA14819 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 21:24:20 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from bruce@kit.net.au) Message-ID: <001d01bf7670$02f9c000$3ac523cb@workstation> From: "Bruce Piper" To: Subject: Billing software Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:16:43 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can anyone recommend billing software for a (very small) ISP - about 50 subscribers? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 15 2:52:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.kit.net.au (kit.net.au [203.35.197.33]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643803FA1 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 02:52:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from workstation (workstation.kit.net.au [203.35.197.58]) by alpha.kit.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA14870 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 21:32:06 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from bruce@kit.net.au) Message-ID: <002a01bf7671$1833e760$3ac523cb@workstation> From: "Bruce Piper" To: Subject: Billing software Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:24:29 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can anyone recommend billing software for a (very small) ISP - about 50 subscribers? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 15 2:52:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.kit.net.au (kit.net.au [203.35.197.33]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C904273 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 02:52:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from workstation ([203.35.197.58]) by alpha.kit.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA11514 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 10:09:40 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from brucep@cs-technologies.com.au) Message-ID: <000f01bf7548$a099eac0$3ac523cb@workstation> From: "Bruce Piper" To: Subject: Billing software Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 22:02:07 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can anyone recommend billing software for a (very small) ISP - about 50 subscribers? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 15 3:15:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from iclub.nsu.ru (iclub.nsu.ru [193.124.222.66]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681B64345 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 03:15:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (fjoe@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA23487; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 17:03:15 +0600 (NS) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 17:03:15 +0600 (NS) From: Max Khon To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Josu=E9_Jos=E9_Souza_Jr=2E?= Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage extensions on Apache In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, there! On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, [ISO-8859-1] Josué José Souza Jr. wrote: > I'm trying to install FrontPage 2000 extensions on apache 1.3.9 mod-SSL > php 3.0, following Widdowson's article printed in Sys Admin (Feb/2000). > I'm trying to manage which file should I use for FreeBSD 3.3 because > there's no specific file for it at > http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/languages/fp/2000/unixfpse.asp where > the extenions are available for downloading. > Also, it doesn't seem that fp_install.sh script have an entry for FreeBSD. > Is there any documentation on how to install those extensions on FreeBSD? /usr/ports/www/apache13-fp/ (it uses BSDI fp extensions) /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 15 6:10:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.bna.bellsouth.net (mail2.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.14]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378E0420F for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 06:10:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from siteplus.com (host-209-215-8-150.cha.bellsouth.net [209.215.8.150]) by mail2.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id IAA11863; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 08:55:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38A95EA1.BEE65144@siteplus.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 09:11:46 -0500 From: Jim Weeks X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i486) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Josu=E9=20Jos=E9?= Souza Jr." Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage extensions on Apache References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, This article describes how to add the extensions to apache on freebsd. http://freebsd.lanfear.com/howtos/frontpage.html You should be able to bypass the part explaining how to install the port and pick up where frontpage extensions begin. Be aware that you will not be able to install subwebs via Microsoft's frontpage explorer when the extensions have been added in this way. They must be installed with root access via the command line. There is a port based on apache 1.3.9 that includes fp, php, and ssl. You would be able to find the URL if the mail archives were not down. If you would be interested in building this port I have a tarball and would be glad to place it somewhere for retrieval if you would like. Just let me know. Good luck, Jim Josué José Souza Jr. wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to install FrontPage 2000 extensions on apache 1.3.9 mod-SSL > php 3.0, following Widdowson's article printed in Sys Admin (Feb/2000). > I'm trying to manage which file should I use for FreeBSD 3.3 because > there's no specific file for it at > http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/languages/fp/2000/unixfpse.asp where > the extenions are available for downloading. > Also, it doesn't seem that fp_install.sh script have an entry for FreeBSD. > Is there any documentation on how to install those extensions on FreeBSD? > > Thanks in advance, > > ------------------------------------------ > Josué José Souza Jr. - Operações e Suporte > josue@nexos.com.br > Nexos Serviços de Redes Ltda. > http://www.nexos.com.br > > Salvador - Bahia - Brasil > ------------------------------------------ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 15 6:46:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web3304.mail.yahoo.com (web3304.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.201.146]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC1CD437E for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 06:46:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20000215144708.26971.qmail@web3304.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.216.111.80] by web3304.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 06:47:08 PST Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 06:47:08 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Urban Subject: Thanks for info (Was: Need recommendation on servers). To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thank you to all the people who have provided their input on my startup ISP question. We've done a lot of market research. And I have run multiple scenarios through my projected cash flow spreadsheets and buisiness plan. Hopefully there is enough of a market here to keep us going. People I have talked to seem to think that there is. Thanks again, Mike. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 15 7: 2:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 608) id D2B3D3DA3; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 07:02:27 -0800 (PST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" To: install@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: list is being terminated. Message-Id: <20000215150227.D2B3D3DA3@builder.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 07:02:27 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The freebsd-install list is being discontinued. jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Core Team, Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--The Power to Serve JMB193 http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 15 7: 4:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 608) id E23064403; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 07:04:33 -0800 (PST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" To: install@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: this list is being discontinued. Message-Id: <20000215150433.E23064403@builder.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 07:04:33 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org this list is being discontinued. jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Core Team, Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--The Power to Serve JMB193 http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 15 7: 4:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dumbo.familyinet.net (dumbo.familyinet.net [206.105.51.10]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45A7843C5 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 07:04:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (phill@localhost) by dumbo.familyinet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA22051; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 10:24:51 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: dumbo.familyinet.net: phill owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 10:24:50 +0000 (GMT) From: Phillip Salzman X-Sender: phill@dumbo.familyinet.net To: Bruce Piper Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Billing software In-Reply-To: <003a01bf773a$108f52a0$3ac523cb@workstation> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try freeside. I've never actually used it, but i'm told it isn't bad. -- Phillip Salzman On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Bruce Piper wrote: > Can anyone recommend billing software for a (very small) ISP - about 50 > subscribers? > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 15 7:10:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 608) id 7BF9F43C5; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 07:10:38 -0800 (PST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: False Alarm Message-Id: <20000215151038.7BF9F43C5@builder.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 07:10:38 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-install is being discontinued FreeBSD-ISP is will remain an active list. jmb (having a very bad day) -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Core Team, Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--The Power to Serve JMB193 http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 15 7:18: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 608) id 81671446B; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 07:18:02 -0800 (PST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" To: install@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD-install is being discontinued Message-Id: <20000215151802.81671446B@builder.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 07:18:02 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-install is being discontinued jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Core Team, Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--The Power to Serve JMB193 http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 15 7:21:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 608) id 4B3C83FA1; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 07:21:36 -0800 (PST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" To: install@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: test Message-Id: <20000215152136.4B3C83FA1@builder.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 07:21:36 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org test...install has been sending mamil to isp. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 15 7:28:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from alydar.infoteam.com (alydar.infoteam.com [207.246.83.5]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 099C0451C for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 07:28:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by alydar.infoteam.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D25BC5D7F; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 10:28:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 10:28:41 -0500 From: Kenn Martin To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: False Alarm Message-ID: <20000215102841.A56197@infoteam.com> References: <20000215151038.7BF9F43C5@builder.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000215151038.7BF9F43C5@builder.freebsd.org>; from jmb@builder.freebsd.org on Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 07:10:38AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 07:10:38AM -0800, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > FreeBSD-install is being discontinued > > > FreeBSD-ISP is will remain an active list. That is good news ... I was about to fire off a note of protest ;-) > jmb (having a very bad day) Hoping that your day improves! -- Kenn Martin InfoTeam Lexington To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 15 8:17:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from egypt.sevenkings.net (egypt.sevenkings.net [216.172.23.2]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C064D79 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 08:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from jk3329.sevenkings.net (jk3329.sevenkings.net [216.172.23.1]) by egypt.sevenkings.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id LAA17112; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 11:18:05 -0500 (EST) From: Arthur Kelly To: Jim Weeks Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage extensions on Apache Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 16:18:40 +0000 Message-ID: <0uuiascarufgvef1v006urn201uu8bf00p@4ax.com> References: <38A95EA1.BEE65144@siteplus.com> In-Reply-To: <38A95EA1.BEE65144@siteplus.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 15 Feb 2000 09:11:46 -0500, Jim Weeks wrote: >There is a port based on apache 1.3.9 that includes fp, php, and ssl. Does it use the open source fp extensions? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 15 9: 1:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pollux.email.si (pollux.email.si [193.77.122.5]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D5E45FD; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 09:00:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by pollux.email.si (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA00973; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 18:00:59 +0100 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 18:00:59 +0100 From: janko.fras@email.si Message-Id: <200002151700.SAA00973@pollux.email.si> X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.email.si: nobody set sender to janko.fras@email.si using -f To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: janko.fras@email.si Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 1.99.1.73 X-Originating-IP: 213.250.4.131 Subject: Fw: sendmail and spam prevention procedures Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have put into /etc/mail/rekay.domains: mydomain.com I sent kill -HUP to sendmail's.pid When I try to use smtp on that host it complaints about relaying. Trying x.y.v.z... Connected to x.y.v.z. Escape character is '^]'. 220 x.y.v.z. ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.3; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 17:54:25 +0100 (CET) helo janko 250 x.y.v.z. Hello janko.x.y [x.y.v.z], pleased to meet you mail from: 250 ... Sender ok rcpt to: 550 ... Relaying denied What I'm doing wrong? Thanks Janko Fras ------------------- http://www.email.si To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 15 10:26:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (ftp.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.106]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BCA452F4 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 10:14:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (tetron02.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.106]) by tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06172; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 12:14:03 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from zeus@tetronsoftware.com) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 12:14:03 -0600 (CST) From: Gene Harris To: Arthur Kelly Cc: Jim Weeks , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage extensions on Apache In-Reply-To: <0uuiascarufgvef1v006urn201uu8bf00p@4ax.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Arthur Kelly wrote: > On Tue, 15 Feb 2000 09:11:46 -0500, Jim Weeks > wrote: > > >There is a port based on apache 1.3.9 that includes fp, php, and ssl. > > Does it use the open source fp extensions? > It uses mod_frontpage.c. It is a great piece of work. I hope it ends up in the ports collection soon. Gene > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > *==============================================* *Gene Harris http://www.tetronsoftware.com* * Home of TeamAccess version control for * * Microsoft Office 97 and 2000 * * FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE - The Power to Serve * * Redhat 6.1 Secure Web Server * *==============================================* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 15 10:34: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from benge.graphics.cornell.edu (benge.graphics.cornell.edu [128.84.247.43]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D794D79; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 10:28:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from benge.graphics.cornell.edu (mkc@localhost) by benge.graphics.cornell.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA60283; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 13:29:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mkc@benge.graphics.cornell.edu) Message-Id: <200002151829.NAA60283@benge.graphics.cornell.edu> To: janko.fras@email.si Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: sendmail and spam prevention procedures In-Reply-To: Message from janko.fras@email.si of "Tue, 15 Feb 2000 18:00:59 +0100." <200002151700.SAA00973@pollux.email.si> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 13:29:01 -0500 From: Mitch Collinsworth Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >I have put into /etc/mail/rekay.domains: >mydomain.com >I sent kill -HUP to sendmail's.pid > >When I try to use smtp on that host it complaints about relaying. >Trying x.y.v.z... >Connected to x.y.v.z. >Escape character is '^]'. >220 x.y.v.z. ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.3; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 17:54:25 +0100 >(CET) >helo janko >250 x.y.v.z. Hello janko.x.y [x.y.v.z], pleased to meet you > >mail from: >250 ... Sender ok >rcpt to: >550 ... Relaying denied > >What I'm doing wrong? What do you get from: 'nslookup x.y.v.z' where this is the x.y.v.z in the [] after "Hello janko.x.y"? -Mitch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 15 20:10:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from blackbird.lonetree.com (blackbird.lonetree.com [207.141.55.3]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F4D4528 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 20:10:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from csocs.com [209.64.46.30] by blackbird.lonetree.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.00) id A306523D0144; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 21:09:42 -0700 Message-ID: <38AA2579.1623FBFC@csocs.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 21:20:09 -0700 From: Jonathan & Charmane Frazier X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Tolley , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Frontpage Extensions (again?) References: <3883AC9A.ACD3CE0C@csocs.com> <3883BE8C.8ACBF340@csocs.com> <003101bf74c8$91e44280$7cf764d1@comnetcom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It is still availible, however the box that it is/was on has been moved. Just getting things back in order now (like DNS). By tommorrow night you should be able to get it again on the same address that was previously posted. The port is great and includes Apache 1.3.9, modssl, frontpage 2000, and php3...however it's been decided that they will not port it (they are supposedly working on some sort of meta port for Apache that will be able to incorporate more addons, but I haven't seen anything as of yet). ftp://ftp.csocs.com/pub/FreeBSD/ports/apache13-php3-fp-modssl.tar.gz Jeff Tolley wrote: > is this port still available? I'm having difficulty finding it.... > > ---- > Jeff Tolley - jeff@comnetcom.net > Senior Systems Engineer > Network Operations Center - noc@comnetcom.net > Com Net Communications System, Inc. > Voice: 219-934-9000 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J.C. Frazier" > To: ; > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 7:14 PM > Subject: Re: Frontpage Extensions (again?) > > > Troy: > > > > I have submitted a port PR and you are welcome to try it. It is very > secure > > and tested and has php3, mySQL support, the frontpage 2000 extensions via > the > > patch, and mod_ssl. You can find it on the PR lists or at > > ftp://ftp.csocs.com/pub/FreeBSD/ports/apache13-php3-fp-modssl.tar.gz > Hope > > this helps. Anyone on freebsd-isp is welcome to try it out or test > it...it's > > proven to be very stable. FreeBSD-Ports is trying to decide now on the > future > > of the Apache ports, you may not get another chance to get this > > Apache13+kitchen_sink. :) > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 15 21:17:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from iclub.nsu.ru (iclub.nsu.ru [193.124.222.66]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F9B44D1 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 21:17:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (fjoe@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09295; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:13:57 +0600 (NS) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:13:57 +0600 (NS) From: Max Khon To: Gene Harris Cc: Arthur Kelly , Jim Weeks , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, hetzels@westbend.net Subject: apache + fp extensions bug In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, there! On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Gene Harris wrote: > > >There is a port based on apache 1.3.9 that includes fp, php, and ssl. > > > > Does it use the open source fp extensions? > > It uses mod_frontpage.c. It is a great piece of work. I > hope it ends up in the ports collection soon. this great piece of sh^H^Hwork has one horrible bug I found yesterday. I tried to make fpcount.exe to work under Solaris (Sparc) while it worked fine with apache built from the same sources under FreeBSD and Linux (i386). the bug is in supplied by Microsoft patch for http_request.c and apache + fp worked under Linux and FreeBSD only because r->execfilename is allocated in memory right before r->filename. new patch-fi (put it to /usr/ports/www/apache13-fp/patches/) attached. /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 15 21:50:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from iclub.nsu.ru (iclub.nsu.ru [193.124.222.66]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB1643B8 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 21:49:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (fjoe@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09382; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:15:16 +0600 (NS) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:15:16 +0600 (NS) From: Max Khon To: Gene Harris Cc: Arthur Kelly , Jim Weeks , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, hetzels@westbend.net Subject: Re: apache + fp extensions bug In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-2092491821-950678116=:6975" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-2092491821-950678116=:6975 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi, there! > new patch-fi (put it to /usr/ports/www/apache13-fp/patches/) > attached. sorry, forgot to attach the patch /fjoe --0-2092491821-950678116=:6975 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=patch-fi Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=patch-fi LS0tIGh0dHBfcmVxdWVzdC5jLm9yaWcJVHVlIEZlYiAxNSAxODoyMzozMyAy MDAwDQorKysgaHR0cF9yZXF1ZXN0LmMJVHVlIEZlYiAxNSAxODoyNjowNCAy MDAwDQpAQCAtMTc1LDcgKzE3NSw3IEBADQogew0KICAgICBjaGFyICpjcDsN CiAgICAgY2hhciAqcGF0aCA9IHItPmZpbGVuYW1lOw0KLSAgICBjaGFyICpl bmQgPSAmcGF0aFtzdHJsZW4ocGF0aCldOw0KKyAgICBjaGFyICplbmQ7DQog ICAgIGNoYXIgKmxhc3RfY3AgPSBOVUxMOw0KICAgICBpbnQgcnY7DQogI2lm ZGVmIEhBVkVfRFJJVkVfTEVUVEVSUw0KQEAgLTE4Nyw2ICsxODcsOSBAQA0K IAlyZXR1cm4gT0s7DQogICAgIH0NCiANCisgICAgaWYgKHItPmV4ZWNmaWxl bmFtZSkgcGF0aCA9IHItPmV4ZWNmaWxlbmFtZTsNCisgICAgZW5kID0gcGF0 aCArIHN0cmxlbihwYXRoKTsNCisNCiAjaWZkZWYgSEFWRV9EUklWRV9MRVRU RVJTDQogICAgIC8qIElmIHRoZSBkaXJlY3RvcnkgaXMgeDpcLCB0aGVuIHdl IGRvbid0IHdhbnQgdG8gc3RyaXANCiAgICAgICogdGhlIHRyYWlsaW5nIHNs YXNoIHNpbmNlIHg6IGlzIG5vdCBhIHZhbGlkIGRpcmVjdG9yeS4NCkBAIC01 MTEsNiArNTE0LDcgQEANCiAgICAgICAgICAgICByZXMgPSBhcF9wYXJzZV9o dGFjY2VzcygmaHRhY2Nlc3NfY29uZiwgciwgb3ZlcnJpZGVzX2hlcmUsDQog ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgYXBfcHN0cmR1cChy LT5wb29sLCB0ZXN0X2Rpcm5hbWUpLA0KICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgIHNjb25mLT5hY2Nlc3NfbmFtZSk7DQorICAgICAgICAg ICAgaWYgKHItPmV4ZWNmaWxlbmFtZSkgci0+ZmlsZW5hbWUgPSByLT5leGVj ZmlsZW5hbWU7DQogICAgICAgICAgICAgaWYgKHJlcykNCiAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgICAgcmV0dXJuIHJlczsNCiANCkBAIC01MjEsNiArNTI1LDcgQEANCiAJ CXItPnBlcl9kaXJfY29uZmlnID0gcGVyX2Rpcl9kZWZhdWx0czsNCiAJICAg IH0NCiAgICAgICAgIH0NCisJaWYgKHItPmV4ZWNmaWxlbmFtZSkgci0+Zmls ZW5hbWUgPSByLT5leGVjZmlsZW5hbWU7DQogICAgIH0NCiANCiAgICAgLyoN Cg== --0-2092491821-950678116=:6975-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 15 22: 5:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web122.yahoomail.com (web122.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.57]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 95E863E32 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 22:05:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 14176 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Feb 2000 06:06:09 -0000 Message-ID: <20000216060609.14175.qmail@web122.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.25.106.117] by web122.yahoomail.com; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 22:06:09 PST Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 22:06:09 -0800 (PST) From: Fabio Miranda Subject: Request of comments/advices/support on buying a Wan routing card To: FreeBSD-isp@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am student of computer science in Colombia, southamerica at www.uninorte.edu.co I am creating a web hosting company with my family and help of my family and teachers of university. I will have a leased line of 19,2 kbps (for begin) from a local telco. The protocol used is Cisco Hdlc and the interface is rs232, this is the diagram: The big Internet <<>> (TELCO/ISP) Cisco 4xxx <-> Cisco rs232 cable<-> DTU (DSU/CSU) <-> ***** Leased Line ***** <-> (My office) DTU (DSU/CSU) <-> wan's rs232 cable <-> Wan card - My server. My problems is that i dont know what type of wan card buy, these are the options i got: Sangoma S508: 16bits isa, 2 ports, rs232, hdlc? www.sangoma.com/s508 Etinc ET5025-16: 16bits isa, 1 port, rs232, hdlc www.etinc.com/boards.htm#ET5025_16 Cyclades PC300/RSV: 32bits pci, 1 port, rs232, hdlc? http://www.cyclades.com/pc300.html That's all i got, please, if anyone have experiences (bad/good) with these products let me know. Any comment/advice about a better performing/optimization/etc is OFCOURSE! welcome. The server that will run routed is: Dual PII-400(intel l440gx) 128 simm ram 4.3 scsi-3 8.2 ide (logs/proxy cache) FreeBSD-3.4 Server's taks: httpd firewall proxy (accelerator) smtp pop3 cgi ftpd Will the routed reduce *many* of server performing? what are pros/crons of set a web/mail/ftp server as a router? thanks alot for your help!, few people use this card here and i have been searching in mailing list, but there many differents (and contraried) points of view, i'm lost about these cards but in many way$ i *should* use them... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 16 0: 0:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sblake.comcen.com.au (sblake.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.144]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B1740C9 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 00:00:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from aunty@localhost) by sblake.comcen.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA30761 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:04:01 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from aunty) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:04:01 +1100 From: aunty To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: file descriptors / table is full Message-ID: <20000216190401.A27835@comcen.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a BSDI machine about to be converted to FreeBSD, and a FreeBSD machine, doing similar tasks. All day the BSDI machine has been complaining about file descriptors and and file table full, and getting load averages up around 66 for brief periods. (Yes, this is still BSDI but bear with me.) Its kernel has only maxusers 64 which might be a little lean but it has been happy that way for years. Ho hum, I thought, it's old and its days are numbered on one hand, and the new FreeBSD box will wash these mysteries away. I forgot to touch wood. Now suddenly the other machine that is already running FreeBSD starts doing the same thing: Feb 16 18:08:18 hostname sendmail[28442]: SAA28262: SYSERR(UID0): queueup: cannot create queue temp file tfSAA28262, uid=0: Bad file descriptor Feb 16 18:08:56 hostname sendmail[22196]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(UID0): fill_fd: disconnect: fd 0 not open: Bad file descriptor and complains about all sorts of things like: bash2-2.03$ sudo mkdir holdit Password: sudo: no passwd entry for root! bash2-2.03$ sudo mkdir holdit /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Cannot open "/usr/lib/libcrypt.so.2" Hmmm, I thought it should have been looking for libdescrypt! And Feb 16 18:19:17 hostname inetd[187]: accept (for pop3): Too many open files in system Feb 16 18:19:18 hostname /kernel: file: table is full Feb 16 18:19:18 hostname sendmail[23967]: RAA23967: SYSERR(UID0): Cannot reopen dfRAA23967: Too many open files in system Its kernel has maxusers set to 128 and it does no more work than the other machine. ISTR maxusers is the usual solution to these things. Could it need to be even higher, or should I be looking elsewhere? I've noticed both machines have large mail queues which they're trying to empty, with hundreds of sendmail processes sitting around for hours. It's been a long day, I can't get to any of the mail archive locations, and the causes and the symptoms are getting a rather muddled here. Can someone help me see the right places to look for clues? -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 16 1: 5:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from webhotel.combo.dk (webhotel.combo.dk [212.10.14.142]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 602503E3A for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 01:05:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3505 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2000 09:00:36 -0000 Received: from ip197.naenxr3.ras.tele.dk (HELO kkpriv) (195.215.124.197) by webhotel.combo.dk with SMTP; 16 Feb 2000 09:00:36 -0000 Message-ID: <008f01bf785d$364e8370$0a69a8c0@kkpriv> From: "Kenneth Karlsson" To: References: Subject: Sv: Billing software Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 09:54:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Where can it be found ?? Tried a search af Yahoo ... lots of cr.. coming up ! M.v.h Kenneth Karlsson * CDS / CDS * BSD/Dk - http://www.bsd-dk.dk ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Phillip Salzman To: Bruce Piper Cc: Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 11:24 AM Subject: Re: Billing software > Try freeside. I've never actually used it, but i'm told it > isn't bad. >=20 > -- > Phillip Salzman >=20 > On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Bruce Piper wrote: >=20 > > Can anyone recommend billing software for a (very small) ISP - about = 50 > > subscribers? > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 16 7: 6: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DF337B57F for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 07:06:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.com) Received: from mail1.bna.bellsouth.net (mail1.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.13]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ADFA132D6 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 07:05:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from siteplus.com (host-209-215-8-150.cha.bellsouth.net [209.215.8.150]) by mail1.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id KAA05162; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 10:05:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38AABD24.8E54462B@siteplus.com> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 10:07:16 -0500 From: Jim Weeks X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i486) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: aunty Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: file descriptors / table is full References: <20000216190401.A27835@comcen.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is you mail actually in /var and if so what is the result of du -ks while in that file system? aunty wrote: > > Feb 16 18:19:17 hostname inetd[187]: accept (for pop3): Too many open files in system > Feb 16 18:19:18 hostname /kernel: file: table is full > Feb 16 18:19:18 hostname sendmail[23967]: RAA23967: SYSERR(UID0): Cannot reopen dfRAA23967: Too many open files in system > > Its kernel has maxusers set to 128 and it does no more work than the > other machine. ISTR maxusers is the usual solution to these things. > Could it need to be even higher, or should I be looking elsewhere? > > I've noticed both machines have large mail queues which they're trying > to empty, with hundreds of sendmail processes sitting around for hours. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 16 13:32:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569FC37B84D for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:32:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: from super-g.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5175132E0 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:32:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by super-g.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CC35E10E1E; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 16:32:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B1E3E10E1B for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 16:32:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 16:32:53 -0500 (EST) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Chilisoft ASP + FreeBSD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Is it possible to compile apache with a module built for Linux? Chilisoft (makers of an ASP-work-alike www.chilisoft.com) have an open beta for linux. Before I enter the world of linux compatibility and all, has anyone tried this? Thanks, Charles To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 16 14:32:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D5437B551 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:32:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aunty@sblake.comcen.com.au) Received: from sblake.comcen.com.au (sblake.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.144]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBCA132F5 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:31:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from aunty@localhost) by sblake.comcen.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA38647; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:34:21 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from aunty) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:34:21 +1100 From: aunty To: Jim Weeks Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: file descriptors / table is full Message-ID: <20000217093421.D27835@comcen.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: Jim Weeks , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000216190401.A27835@comcen.com.au> <38AABD24.8E54462B@siteplus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <38AABD24.8E54462B@siteplus.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 10:07:16AM -0500, Jim Weeks wrote: > Is you mail actually in /var and if so what is the result of du -ks > while in that file system? I've cleared some more space and limited the number and size of emails people can send through sendmail, and things are getting back on track for the FreeBSD machine (the BSDI machine has other problems). Next I'll give the kernel its full 256 maxusers. Can anyone suggest the standard procedure for clearing an overwhelmed mail queue? I've been moving files in and out of the queue directory to keep its size manaageable and that's no fun at all. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 16 14:38:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D70537B505 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:38:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sthen@naiad.eclipse.net.uk) Received: from naiad.eclipse.net.uk (naiad.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.29]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71625132DE for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:38:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by naiad.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix, from userid 475) id 452F91386D; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:38:46 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:38:46 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson To: aunty Cc: Jim Weeks , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: file descriptors / table is full Message-ID: <20000216223846.J77186@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> References: <20000216190401.A27835@comcen.com.au> <38AABD24.8E54462B@siteplus.com> <20000217093421.D27835@comcen.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000217093421.D27835@comcen.com.au>; from aunty@comcen.com.au on Thu, Feb 17, 2000 at 09:34:21AM +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Feb 17, 2000 at 09:34:21AM +1100, aunty wrote: > On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 10:07:16AM -0500, Jim Weeks wrote: > > Is you mail actually in /var and if so what is the result of du -ks > > while in that file system? > > I've cleared some more space and limited the number and size of emails > people can send through sendmail, and things are getting back on track > for the FreeBSD machine (the BSDI machine has other problems). Next > I'll give the kernel its full 256 maxusers. > > Can anyone suggest the standard procedure for clearing an overwhelmed > mail queue? I've been moving files in and out of the queue directory > to keep its size manaageable and that's no fun at all. Kill sendmail, create multiple queue directories, move files arbitrarily so you don't have too many msgs in any one queue, run multiple sendmail processes to drain the alternative q's "sendmail -q30m -OQueueDirectory=/var/spool/mqueue.1" It's well worth your while installing Postfix, Exim and Qmail on a test machine and see if you feel happier with any of them. In most situations, they're better able to handle heavy mail load than Sendmail. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 16 14:42:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD5637B592 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:42:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sthen@naiad.eclipse.net.uk) Received: from naiad.eclipse.net.uk (naiad.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.29]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E60D132E1 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:41:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by naiad.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix, from userid 475) id D2B66146FC; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:42:20 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:42:20 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson To: aunty Cc: Jim Weeks , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: file descriptors / table is full Message-ID: <20000216224220.L77186@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> References: <20000216190401.A27835@comcen.com.au> <38AABD24.8E54462B@siteplus.com> <20000217093421.D27835@comcen.com.au> <20000216223846.J77186@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000216223846.J77186@naiad.eclipse.net.uk>; from sthen@naiad.eclipse.net.uk on Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 10:38:46PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 10:38:46PM +0000, Stuart Henderson wrote: > Kill sendmail, create multiple queue directories, move files > arbitrarily so you don't have too many msgs in any one queue, I should add, make sure you keep every file with the same queue ID together.. ~> root@hyperion# ls /var/spool/mqueue/*AAA33655 /var/spool/mqueue/dfAAA33655 /var/spool/mqueue/xfAAA33655 /var/spool/mqueue/qfAAA33655 maybe, mv mqueue/*[123] mqueue.1; mv mqueue/*[456] mqueue.2 and so on. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 16 15:37:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D5537B564 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 15:37:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aunty@sblake.comcen.com.au) Received: from sblake.comcen.com.au (sblake.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.144]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F23132F0 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 15:36:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from aunty@localhost) by sblake.comcen.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA39077; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:40:28 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from aunty) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:40:28 +1100 From: aunty To: Stuart Henderson Cc: Jim Weeks , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: file descriptors / table is full Message-ID: <20000217104028.E27835@comcen.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: Stuart Henderson , Jim Weeks , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000216190401.A27835@comcen.com.au> <38AABD24.8E54462B@siteplus.com> <20000217093421.D27835@comcen.com.au> <20000216223846.J77186@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> <20000216224220.L77186@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <20000216224220.L77186@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 10:42:20PM +0000, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 10:38:46PM +0000, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > Kill sendmail, create multiple queue directories, move files > > arbitrarily so you don't have too many msgs in any one queue, > > I should add, make sure you keep every file with > the same queue ID together.. > > ~> root@hyperion# ls /var/spool/mqueue/*AAA33655 > /var/spool/mqueue/dfAAA33655 /var/spool/mqueue/xfAAA33655 > /var/spool/mqueue/qfAAA33655 > > maybe, mv mqueue/*[123] mqueue.1; mv mqueue/*[456] mqueue.2 > and so on. Yeah thanks, I did remember to do something like that :-) It drove me bonkers, but another two coffees will help. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 16 15:41:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71DF37B513 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 15:41:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.com) Received: from mail2.bna.bellsouth.net (mail2.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.14]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725D6132E4 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 15:40:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from siteplus.com (host-209-215-8-150.cha.bellsouth.net [209.215.8.150]) by mail2.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id SAA28578; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:36:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38AB34CF.3F77D776@siteplus.com> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:37:51 -0500 From: Jim Weeks X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i486) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stuart Henderson Cc: aunty , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: file descriptors / table is full References: <20000216190401.A27835@comcen.com.au> <38AABD24.8E54462B@siteplus.com> <20000217093421.D27835@comcen.com.au> <20000216223846.J77186@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Why not kill sendmail cd /var mv -Rp /var/mail /usr/mail ln -s /usr/mail mail restarts sendmail Stuart Henderson wrote: > Kill sendmail, create multiple queue directories, move files > arbitrarily so you don't have too many msgs in any one queue, > run multiple sendmail processes to drain the alternative q's > "sendmail -q30m -OQueueDirectory=/var/spool/mqueue.1" > > It's well worth your while installing Postfix, Exim and Qmail > on a test machine and see if you feel happier with any of them. > In most situations, they're better able to handle heavy mail > load than Sendmail. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 16 15:54:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB30A37B59B for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 15:54:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aunty@sblake.comcen.com.au) Received: from sblake.comcen.com.au (sblake.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.144]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D49E9132D9 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 15:53:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from aunty@localhost) by sblake.comcen.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA39240; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:57:16 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from aunty) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:57:16 +1100 From: aunty To: Jim Weeks Cc: Stuart Henderson , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: file descriptors / table is full Message-ID: <20000217105716.F27835@comcen.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: Jim Weeks , Stuart Henderson , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000216190401.A27835@comcen.com.au> <38AABD24.8E54462B@siteplus.com> <20000217093421.D27835@comcen.com.au> <20000216223846.J77186@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> <38AB34CF.3F77D776@siteplus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <38AB34CF.3F77D776@siteplus.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 06:37:51PM -0500, Jim Weeks wrote: > Stuart Henderson wrote: > > > Kill sendmail, create multiple queue directories, move files > > arbitrarily so you don't have too many msgs in any one queue, > > run multiple sendmail processes to drain the alternative q's > > "sendmail -q30m -OQueueDirectory=/var/spool/mqueue.1" > > > > It's well worth your while installing Postfix, Exim and Qmail > > on a test machine and see if you feel happier with any of them. > > In most situations, they're better able to handle heavy mail > > load than Sendmail. > Why not > kill sendmail > cd /var > mv -Rp /var/mail /usr/mail > ln -s /usr/mail mail > restarts sendmail Copy 9 gigs of mail to the /usr filesystem? I don't get it. The exercise would certainly take my mind of my troubles. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 16 16: 5:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6CD137B5ED for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 16:05:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.com) Received: from mail0.bna.bellsouth.net (mail0.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.12]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0BBE132F4 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 16:04:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from siteplus.com (host-209-215-8-150.cha.bellsouth.net [209.215.8.150]) by mail0.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id TAA19099; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:04:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38AB3B61.71445D2@siteplus.com> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:05:53 -0500 From: Jim Weeks X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i486) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stuart Henderson , aunty , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: file descriptors / table is full References: <20000216190401.A27835@comcen.com.au> <38AABD24.8E54462B@siteplus.com> <20000217093421.D27835@comcen.com.au> <20000216223846.J77186@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> <38AB34CF.3F77D776@siteplus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It occurred to me after I sent this that I have missed the whole point. I have to ask myself why is all this mail stuck in the queue. I assume that at this point you have cd'd to /var and done something like du -k > some.file and looked at some.file to see which ones are giving you the problem. You still should be able to out link the offending directory. Jim Weeks wrote: > Why not > kill sendmail > cd /var > mv -Rp /var/mail /usr/mail > ln -s /usr/mail mail > restarts sendmail > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 16 16:12: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 975F537B5F5 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 16:12:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.com) Received: from mail1.bna.bellsouth.net (mail1.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.13]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B029132D6 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 16:11:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from siteplus.com (host-209-215-8-150.cha.bellsouth.net [209.215.8.150]) by mail1.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id TAA23472; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:11:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38AB3CDC.90A40541@siteplus.com> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:12:12 -0500 From: Jim Weeks X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i486) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: aunty Cc: Stuart Henderson , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: file descriptors / table is full References: <20000216190401.A27835@comcen.com.au> <38AABD24.8E54462B@siteplus.com> <20000217093421.D27835@comcen.com.au> <20000216223846.J77186@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> <38AB34CF.3F77D776@siteplus.com> <20000217105716.F27835@comcen.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You are certainly right about that! > > Copy 9 gigs of mail to the /usr filesystem? I don't get it. > The exercise would certainly take my mind of my troubles. > > -- > > Regards, > -*Sue*- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 16 18:21:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE47737B586 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:21:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au) Received: from inet03.citec.qld.gov.au (inet03.citec.qld.gov.au [203.5.10.10]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69911132EF for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:20:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au; id MAA05973; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:18:59 +1000 (EST) Received: from guru.citec.qld.gov.au( 147.132.20.47) by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma005765; Thu, 17 Feb 00 12:18:48 +1000 Received: from localhost (sgcccdc@localhost) by guru.citec.qld.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15174; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:18:11 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au) X-Authentication-Warning: guru.citec.qld.gov.au: sgcccdc owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:18:11 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Campbell To: aunty Cc: Jim Weeks , Stuart Henderson , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: file descriptors / table is full In-Reply-To: <20000217105716.F27835@comcen.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I haven't really been following this thread too closely so ignore me if I'm off track here. We had a problem with lots of undeliverable/slowly-delivered mail clogging up our mail system. The solution was to use a program called "re-mqueue". Our mail system now works as follows: - mail goes into the normal queue and gets processed every 10 minutes - mail which hasn't been delivered in one hour gets moved (cron job running re-mqueue) to the "one-hour" queue. Delivery is still attempted but less frequently (hourly). - mail which still hasn't been delivered after 6 hours goes to the 6-hour queue which gets processed every 4 hours. - mail which still hasn't been delivered after 24 hours goes to the 24-hour queue which gets porcessed 4 times a day. - if it stays there too long sendmail will dump it as per normal This means the slow mail does not clog up the easy stuff. It looks quite complex but only because we set it up that way. You could just use two queues. You can leave sendmail running as normal (sendmail -bd -q15m or whatever) but you need to add re-mqueue and a "sendmail -q -oQ..." for each new queue you create. For "re-mqueue" just search altavista. We needed something like this cos we handle over 110,000 messages per day (at about 100k per message). Colin On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, aunty wrote: > On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 06:37:51PM -0500, Jim Weeks wrote: > > Stuart Henderson wrote: > > > > > Kill sendmail, create multiple queue directories, move files > > > arbitrarily so you don't have too many msgs in any one queue, > > > run multiple sendmail processes to drain the alternative q's > > > "sendmail -q30m -OQueueDirectory=/var/spool/mqueue.1" > > > > > > It's well worth your while installing Postfix, Exim and Qmail > > > on a test machine and see if you feel happier with any of them. > > > In most situations, they're better able to handle heavy mail > > > load than Sendmail. > > > Why not > > kill sendmail > > cd /var > > mv -Rp /var/mail /usr/mail > > ln -s /usr/mail mail > > restarts sendmail > > Copy 9 gigs of mail to the /usr filesystem? I don't get it. > The exercise would certainly take my mind of my troubles. > > > -- > > Regards, > -*Sue*- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 16 19: 7:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811C837B50B for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:07:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abcjr@jasper.southwind.net) Received: from jasper.southwind.net (jasper.southwind.net [206.53.103.7]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B461132F7 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:06:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from jasper.southwind.net (abcjr@jasper.southwind.net [206.53.103.7]) by jasper.southwind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA11505 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:07:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:07:08 -0600 (CST) From: "Arnold B. Cavazos, Jr." To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sv: Billing software In-Reply-To: <008f01bf785d$364e8370$0a69a8c0@kkpriv> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Kenneth Karlsson wrote: >Where can it be found ?? > >Tried a search af Yahoo ... lots of cr.. coming up ! > >M.v.h >Kenneth Karlsson >* CDS / CDS >* BSD/Dk - http://www.bsd-dk.dk Here you go... http://www.sisd.com/freeside/ ---------------------------------------------------------- Arnold Cavazos, Jr. abcjr@southwind.net General Manager SouthWind Internet Access, Inc. A OneMain.com Company To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 16 19:22:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BFAA37B5C4 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:22:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from timbo@halenet.com.au) Received: from joe.halenet.com.au (joe.halenet.com.au [203.37.141.114]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA1C132D9 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:22:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from temp (temp19.halenet.com.au [203.37.141.119]) by joe.halenet.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA17102; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:31:59 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from timbo@halenet.com.au) Message-ID: <005801bf78f6$a899c180$778d25cb@halenet.com.au> From: "Tim McCullagh" To: "Arnold B. Cavazos, Jr." , References: Subject: Re: Sv: Billing software Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:25:28 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Have you checked out FreeSide? It's opensource, and at www.freeside.com. regards Tim HaleNET Internet e-mail admin@halenet.com.au http://www.halenet.com.au P.O. Box 554 Stanthorpe Q 4380 Phone (07) 46814999 Bus Hours Phone (07) 46852194 After Hours HaleNET Pty Ltd ACN (082 330 121) as trustee for the McCullagh Family Trust Trading as HaleNET ----- Original Message ----- From: Arnold B. Cavazos, Jr. To: Sent: Thursday, 17 February 2000 1:07 Subject: Re: Sv: Billing software > On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Kenneth Karlsson wrote: > > >Where can it be found ?? > > > >Tried a search af Yahoo ... lots of cr.. coming up ! > > > >M.v.h > >Kenneth Karlsson > >* CDS / CDS > >* BSD/Dk - http://www.bsd-dk.dk > > Here you go... > > http://www.sisd.com/freeside/ > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Arnold Cavazos, Jr. abcjr@southwind.net > General Manager > SouthWind Internet Access, Inc. > A OneMain.com Company > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 16 21:37:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A73037B628 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:37:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phastnet@bellsouth.net) Received: from mail0.mia.bellsouth.net (mail0.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.16.12]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5C0132E8 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:36:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mach2.mia.bellsouth.net (adsl-61-8-25.mia.bellsouth.net [208.61.8.25]) by mail0.mia.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with SMTP id AAA20308 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 00:37:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <012d01bf7909$08d7f320$02ac14ac@mia.bellsouth.net> From: "Phastnet" To: Subject: server ppp problem Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 00:37:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have FreeBSD 3.3R running as a dialup ppp server for at least a month now. Everything has been working perfectly until yesterday. Now, if a user disconnects improperly (such as pulling the phone cord out of his modem), the server doesn't realize it! When it happened yesterday, the server was denying him access, until I killed the ppp -direct process that was still running, then he connected fine. It has happened a few more times today (not sure what happened on their end), so I did some testing. It is definitely just a problem when the user end disconnects suddenly, but it was allowing me to log back in as any username, and would look like it was still the original user!! Anyone have any ideas why the server isn't noticing the dropped connections? Thanks for you help, and please let me know if this is the wrong mailing list!! (I am trying to set this up as an ISP, so it SHOULD be the right place) Shawn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 16 22:36:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56EED37B602 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:36:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (tunnel0-velvet-brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62CEC132F1 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:35:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24676 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:36:23 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:36:22 +1100 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: /etc/mail/access Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Just a quick sendmail question, I have the following in /etc/mail/access from when I was playing around: earthlink.net REJECT Yet I just received a spam that arrived via earthlink... Received: from vulture.prod.itd.earthlink.net (vulture.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.36]) by denim.sensation.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02469 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:23:18 +1100 (EST) Am I misunderstanding the syntax for this access file? Does it need to be an IP address/range or a full hostname? (Yes, I did makemap and access.db is up to date) Note - I have an external MX which doesn't have any spam prevention, I presume this will bypass any REJECTs since the spammer will deliver to the external MX, but in this case it arrived straight at my first MX. Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ Sensation Internet Services http://www.sensation.net.au/ Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 16 22:42:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259BF37B602 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:42:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from map@tirad.internal.iphil.net) Received: from tirad.internal.iphil.net (tirad.internal.iphil.net [203.176.9.125]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20466132ED for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:41:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from map@localhost) by tirad.internal.iphil.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01558; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 14:42:01 +0800 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 14:42:01 +0800 From: "Miguel A.L. Paraz" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Cc: et-users@etinc.com Subject: IP Accounting Message-ID: <20000217144200.A1383@tirad.internal.iphil.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I'm currently using an ETINC HSSI card on FreeBSD 3.3. I would like to do accounting close to the way the Ciscos do Netflow Accounting. I would need data on source and destination IP address and port. We use this for traffic engineering. Thanks! ---m -- Miguel "Migs" A.L. Paraz http://www.iphil.net Technology, Architecture, Training IPhil Communications Network, Inc. 5/F 116 Herrera St., Legaspi Village, Makati City, Philippines +63-2-750-2288 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 16 22:46:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA63B37B602 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:46:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wellsian@caffeine.com) Received: from boris.netgate.net (boris.netgate.net [204.145.147.154]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5FE132D6 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:45:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (wellsian@localhost) by boris.netgate.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA01206; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:45:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wellsian@caffeine.com) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:45:53 -0800 (PST) From: wellsian X-Sender: wellsian@boris.netgate.net To: Rowan Crowe Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /etc/mail/access In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Did you enable the access_db feature in your mc file? FEATURE(access_db)dnl I've never tried hacking it into the cf file; the changes look extensive. You can read some about it at sendmail.org: http://www.sendmail.org/m4/anti-spam.html Dave On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Rowan Crowe wrote: > Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:36:22 +1100 (EST) > From: Rowan Crowe > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: /etc/mail/access > > Hi, > > Just a quick sendmail question, I have the following in /etc/mail/access > from when I was playing around: > > earthlink.net REJECT > > Yet I just received a spam that arrived via earthlink... > > > Received: from vulture.prod.itd.earthlink.net (vulture.prod.itd.earthlink.net > [207.217.121.36]) > by denim.sensation.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02469 > for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:23:18 +1100 (EST) > > > Am I misunderstanding the syntax for this access file? Does it need to be > an IP address/range or a full hostname? > > (Yes, I did makemap and access.db is up to date) > > Note - I have an external MX which doesn't have any spam prevention, I > presume this will bypass any REJECTs since the spammer will deliver to the > external MX, but in this case it arrived straight at my first MX. > > Cheers. > > > -- > Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ > Sensation Internet Services http://www.sensation.net.au/ > Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 16 22:50:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEDE37B651 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:50:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12193132F2 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:49:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA73293; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 07:50:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200002170650.HAA73293@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: IP Accounting In-Reply-To: <20000217144200.A1383@tirad.internal.iphil.net> from "Miguel A.L. Paraz" at "Feb 17, 2000 02:42:01 pm" To: "Miguel A.L. Paraz" Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 07:50:00 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, et-users@etinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi all, > > I'm currently using an ETINC HSSI card on FreeBSD 3.3. > > I would like to do accounting close to the way the Ciscos do Netflow > Accounting. I would need data on source and destination IP address and port. > We use this for traffic engineering. you have several alternatives, but one is to use dummynet with dynamic pipes ipfw pipe 1 config mask all buckets 256 ipfw add pipe 1 ip from any to any and then ipfw pipe 1 show will show you per-flow traffic (the number of flows you can monitor is the 'buckets' times the sysctl variable net.inet.ip.dummynet.max_chain_len which defaults to 16. I think you can raise buckets to 1K, and the sysctl var. to any value you want. cheers luigi -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- Luigi RIZZO, luigi@iet.unipi.it . Dip. di Ing. dell'Informazione http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . Universita` di Pisa TEL/FAX: +39-050-568.533/522 . via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) Mobile +39-347-0373137 -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 16 22:57:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from builder.freebsd.org (builder.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5CFC37B651 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:57:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (tunnel0-velvet-brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0239132FA for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:56:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24805 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:56:43 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:56:41 +1100 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /etc/mail/access In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, wellsian wrote: > Did you enable the access_db feature in your mc file? > > FEATURE(access_db)dnl > > I've never tried hacking it into the cf file; the changes look extensive. Thanks Dave, I'm using the generic-bsd4.4.mc config file, and it looks like it doesn't have that enabled. I must have assumed it was enabled since /etc/mail/access existed... the original web page that explained the syntax of /etc/mail/access didn't say anything about FEATURE(..) being required. I'll add this to the mc config file and have a look at the URL you gave me. Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ Sensation Internet Services http://www.sensation.net.au/ Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 17 1: 8:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.alpha.net.au (mail2.alpha.net.au [203.41.44.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AEDF37B682; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:08:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dannyh@idx.com.au) Received: from psych (surry-pool-177.alpha.net.au [203.41.44.177] (may be forged)) by mail.alpha.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA12579; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 09:39:48 +1100 Message-Id: <3.0.32.20000216093917.01009864@idx.com.au> X-Sender: dannyh@idx.com.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 09:39:19 +1100 To: Phillip Salzman , Bruce Piper From: Danny Subject: Re: Billing software Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org www.broadtown.com Platyus is a very good ISP billing software. Shame is hosted on NT thou At 10:24 15/02/00 +0000, Phillip Salzman wrote: >Try freeside. I've never actually used it, but i'm told it >isn't bad. > >-- >Phillip Salzman > >On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Bruce Piper wrote: > >> Can anyone recommend billing software for a (very small) ISP - about 50 >> subscribers? >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >> > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 17 1:25:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from boris.netgate.net (boris.netgate.net [204.145.147.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA49937B68D; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:25:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wellsian@caffeine.com) Received: from localhost (wellsian@localhost) by boris.netgate.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA02189; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:24:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wellsian@caffeine.com) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:24:46 -0800 (PST) From: wellsian X-Sender: wellsian@boris.netgate.net To: Danny Cc: Phillip Salzman , Bruce Piper , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Billing software In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20000216093917.01009864@idx.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Some might take offense. :) That would be http://. Platypus is very NT and MSSQL specific but can handle many thousands of customers on a well-built system. And Boardtown will even do your invoicing for very reasonable fees, something nice for small-medium ISPs who hate waiting for their printer. And folding. Once you get into this size of system though it's good to do some serious evaluation. There are many competing products out now and I can say from experience that discovering you bought the wrong one is a bummer. No, Platypus was not "the wrong one", it's fine. But compared with 5 years ago there are now many choices. Check this site and the list for more information: http://isp-lists.com/isp-invoicing/ Dave On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Danny wrote: > www.broadtown.com > > Platyus is a very good ISP billing software. > Shame is hosted on NT thou > > > At 10:24 15/02/00 +0000, Phillip Salzman wrote: > >Try freeside. I've never actually used it, but i'm told it > >isn't bad. > > > >-- > >Phillip Salzman > > > >On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Bruce Piper wrote: > > > >> Can anyone recommend billing software for a (very small) ISP - about 50 > >> subscribers? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 17 1:36:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from boris.netgate.net (boris.netgate.net [204.145.147.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270B937B699; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:36:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wellsian@caffeine.com) Received: from localhost (wellsian@localhost) by boris.netgate.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA02359; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:35:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wellsian@caffeine.com) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:35:51 -0800 (PST) From: wellsian X-Sender: wellsian@boris.netgate.net To: Danny Cc: Phillip Salzman , Bruce Piper , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Billing software In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jeez, fumblefingers... On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, wellsian wrote: > Some might take offense. :) That would be http://. > > Platypus is very NT and MSSQL specific but can handle many thousands of > customers on a well-built system. And Boardtown will even do your > invoicing for very reasonable fees, something nice for small-medium ISPs > who hate waiting for their printer. And folding. Once you get into this > size of system though it's good to do some serious evaluation. There are > many competing products out now and I can say from experience that > discovering you bought the wrong one is a bummer. No, Platypus was not > "the wrong one", it's fine. But compared with 5 years ago there are now > many choices. Check this site and the list for more information: > > http://isp-lists.com/isp-invoicing/ > > Dave > > On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Danny wrote: > > > www.broadtown.com > > > > Platyus is a very good ISP billing software. > > Shame is hosted on NT thou > > > > > > At 10:24 15/02/00 +0000, Phillip Salzman wrote: > > >Try freeside. I've never actually used it, but i'm told it > > >isn't bad. > > > > > >-- > > >Phillip Salzman > > > > > >On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Bruce Piper wrote: > > > > > >> Can anyone recommend billing software for a (very small) ISP - about 50 > > >> subscribers? > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 17 1:47: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from riga.nu (riga.nu.138.62.195.in-addr.arpa [195.62.138.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 25F7537B694 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:47:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from viktors@riga.nu) Received: (qmail 6766 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2000 14:47:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO riga.nu) (159.148.169.200) by riga.nu with SMTP; 10 Feb 2000 14:47:25 -0000 Message-ID: <38A2CF7A.756B30B4@riga.nu> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:47:22 +0200 From: Viktors Rotanovs Organization: DATIONS Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: AppleTalk routing & 1Gbit fiber optic Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------7BC625A63E43219D6C5E3B71" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------7BC625A63E43219D6C5E3B71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello! Can FreeBSD do AppleTalk routing? Does FreeBSD support any 1Gbit fiber optic adapters? What is the maximum network throughput for PC architecture? Best Wishes, Viktors Rotanovs DATIONS Ltd., phone: +371 9173000, fax: +371 7377472 --------------7BC625A63E43219D6C5E3B71 Content-Type: text/html; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 
Hello!
Can FreeBSD do AppleTalk routing?
Does FreeBSD support any 1Gbit fiber optic adapters?
What is the maximum network throughput for
PC architecture?

Best Wishes,
Viktors Rotanovs

DATIONS Ltd., phone: +371 9173000, fax: +371 7377472
  --------------7BC625A63E43219D6C5E3B71-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 17 1:49: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.alpha.net.au (mail2.alpha.net.au [203.41.44.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F81B37B694; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:48:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dannyh@idx.com.au) Received: from psych (surry-pool-138.alpha.net.au [203.41.44.138] (may be forged)) by mail.alpha.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA08257; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 07:03:21 +1100 Message-Id: <3.0.32.20000214070246.010cfdf4@idx.com.au> X-Sender: dannyh@idx.com.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 07:02:47 +1100 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Danny Subject: Partition for Merit AAA Radius Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, redhat-list@redhat.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Situation - I need to deploy Merit AAA Radius - I have a 13 GB HD to use Question 1) How would I assign my partitions? Looking forward to your feedback. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 17 2:16:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from elwood.akitanet.co.uk (elwood.akitanet.co.uk [212.1.130.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 808AE37B586; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 02:16:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wigstah@akitanet.co.uk) Received: from elwood.akitanet.co.uk (elwood.akitanet.co.uk [212.1.130.149]) by elwood.akitanet.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA50102; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:23:40 GMT Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:23:40 +0000 (GMT) From: Paul Robinson To: Danny Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, redhat-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: Partition for Merit AAA Radius In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20000214070246.010cfdf4@idx.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Danny wrote: > Situation > > - I need to deploy Merit AAA Radius OK, firstly, question *that* choice carefully... take a look at www.freeradius.org... trust me, you will want to look at this for so many reasons, I'm not going to list them here... :) > 1) How would I assign my partitions? If you're taking RADIUS accounting data, make /var nice and big and tasty, but apart from that, it doesn't make much difference. The only other place that is going to get bloated is the place where your configs and user files are going to be (which I suspect whether it's flatfile, dbm or passwd, it's all going to end up in /etc). -- Paul Robinson - Developer/Systems Administrator @ Akitanet Internet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 17 2:36:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [212.74.0.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9B037B6BA; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 02:36:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) id KAA38479; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:36:22 GMT (envelope-from joe) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:36:22 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: Paul Robinson Cc: Danny , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, redhat-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: Partition for Merit AAA Radius Message-ID: <20000217103621.D18805@florence.pavilion.net> References: <3.0.32.20000214070246.010cfdf4@idx.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Feb 17, 2000 at 10:23:40AM +0000, Paul Robinson wrote: > On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Danny wrote: > > > Situation > > > > - I need to deploy Merit AAA Radius > > OK, firstly, question *that* choice carefully... take a look at > www.freeradius.org... trust me, you will want to look at this for so many > reasons, I'm not going to list them here... :) "The FreeRadius server is currently in alpha development, and is not ready for production use" We're using MeritAAA, and have been for a couple of years. Here's our file layout. Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0s1a 98479 24202 66399 27% / /dev/da0s1h 890741 145018 674464 18% /home /dev/da0s1e 98479 20 90581 0% /tmp /dev/da0s1g 1986495 987000 840576 54% /usr /dev/da0s1f 992751 536450 376881 59% /var /dev/da1s1e 8394791 1340140 6383068 17% /data procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc To be honest the only thing to be careful of is to not run out of /var. Make sure that you regularly rotate your log files. Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: Take the red pill and we'll show you just how Technical Manager deep the rabbit hole goes. (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 17 12:48: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.calweb.com (mail.calweb.com [209.210.251.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DCE737B546 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:47:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ianj@calweb.com) Received: from staff.calweb.com (ianj@staff.calweb.com [209.210.251.15]) by mail.calweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA81634 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:47:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ianj@localhost) by staff.calweb.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16621 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:47:56 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: staff.calweb.com: ianj owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:47:55 -0800 (PST) From: "Ian R. Justman" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Qpopper and hashed directories Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, all. Just curious, has anyone implemented directory hashing with mailspools under qpopper, e.g. /var/mail/j/joeuser? This would be helpful in a situation where you have thousands of mailspools. Besides, it would be nice to not have to re-invent the wheel. :) --Ian. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 17 12:52:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from redbox.venux.net (redbox.venux.net [216.47.238.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEAD437B7E9 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:52:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mitch@venux.net) Received: from doot2 (usr3-ip117-grr.wmis.net [209.176.193.167]) by redbox.venux.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 782C92E20B; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 15:42:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003501bf7989$3a8a8420$0300000a@doot.org> From: "Mitch Vincent" To: "Ian R. Justman" , References: Subject: Re: Qpopper and hashed directories Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 15:54:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org When I used qopper I found it to be extremely slow and unreliable. Has it improved much? And wouldn't the hashing be done by your MTA, since it's responsible for the actual delivery of the mail into a certain directory. OF course you would have to have your POP3 server look there, but that's about it, right? I guess I don't know what's involved, though I'm interested. Please elaborate. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian R. Justman To: Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 3:47 PM Subject: Qpopper and hashed directories > > Hello, all. > > Just curious, has anyone implemented directory hashing with mailspools > under qpopper, e.g. /var/mail/j/joeuser? This would be helpful in a > situation where you have thousands of mailspools. > > Besides, it would be nice to not have to re-invent the wheel. :) > > --Ian. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 17 13: 7:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.calweb.com (mail.calweb.com [209.210.251.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1C137B5D7 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:07:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ianj@calweb.com) Received: from staff.calweb.com (ianj@staff.calweb.com [209.210.251.15]) by mail.calweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA88009; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:07:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ianj@localhost) by staff.calweb.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA19757; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:07:12 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: staff.calweb.com: ianj owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:07:12 -0800 (PST) From: "Ian R. Justman" To: Mitch Vincent Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Qpopper and hashed directories In-Reply-To: <003501bf7989$3a8a8420$0300000a@doot.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Mitch Vincent wrote: > When I used qopper I found it to be extremely slow and unreliable. Has it > improved much? > > And wouldn't the hashing be done by your MTA, since it's responsible for the > actual delivery of the mail into a certain directory. OF course you would > have to have your POP3 server look there, but that's about it, right? > > I guess I don't know what's involved, though I'm interested. Please > elaborate. True, he MTA would deliver, though the MDA would be what really deal with those directories (in this case, Procmail). I am curious whether anyone had already implemented directory hashing for reading and handling such directories in Qpopper (which we rather need to stay with presently, though my workplace is considering going to CUCIPOP). --Ian. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 17 14: 0:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5743437B802 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 14:00:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.9.2/8.9.3) with UUCP id XAA61773 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:00:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.0.14]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA49902 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:55:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <012501bf7991$bda83700$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Reply-To: "Leif Neland" From: "Leif Neland" To: Subject: "pop3 server has not responded in 60 seconds. Retry / abort?" Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:49:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Some users have problems receiving large emails.=20 A qpopper is running for that user, their outlook express is open, I can = ping their machine, but no mail is flowing. I've also seen the same thing happening when they are sending. Just to understand the principle: TCP/IP is supposed to be reliable, = right? If something happens, TCP/IP is supposed to do retransmits. If TCP/IP looses a package anyway, will the programs "on top" = (application layer?) just wait, or will they too start retransmitting? It seems like if the traffic has stopped, no amount of waiting will = cause traffic to start again. This happens on both analog PM2 and ISDN PM3.=20 The route to the portmasters goes via a cisco doing ospf. The mailserver is (sorry) still li*ux, but this has happened also when I = moved some customers to try using a Fbsd stable box. I wouldn't mind a solution, but I'm mostly asking this to enhance my = knowledge of tcp/ip... Leif Of cause,=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 17 16:56:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.calweb.com (mail.calweb.com [209.210.251.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D71937B8DF for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:56:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ianj@calweb.com) Received: from staff.calweb.com (ianj@staff.calweb.com [209.210.251.15]) by mail.calweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA73290 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:56:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ianj@localhost) by staff.calweb.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA57775 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:56:27 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: staff.calweb.com: ianj owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:56:27 -0800 (PST) From: "Ian R. Justman" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Qpopper directory hashing questions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, all. I shoulda RTFS. There're options already in the source tree for it. My bad. --Ian. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 17 19:28:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.usls.edu (atlas.usls.edu [202.47.133.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E583537B598 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 19:28:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from francis@usls.edu) Received: by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9119F9B17; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:28:22 +0800 (PHT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A515D15; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:28:22 +0800 (PHT) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:28:22 +0800 (PHT) From: "Francis A. Vidal" To: "Ian R. Justman" Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Qpopper and hashed directories In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ---- Quoting Ian R. Justman's message, sent 02/17/00 12:47pm ---- > Just curious, has anyone implemented directory hashing with > mailspools under qpopper, e.g. /var/mail/j/joeuser? This would be > helpful in a situation where you have thousands of mailspools. What I did was to make the users' home directory the mailspool and put in ~user/.mailbox. Then you can hack qpopper to find the spool file there. > Besides, it would be nice to not have to re-invent the wheel. :) -- francis vidal university of st. la salle, bacolod city, philippines . . . . . . . PGP key available via e-mail / subject: get PGP key u s l s N E T tel nos. (+63.34).433.3526 / fax (+63.34).434.0415 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 17 19:31:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.usls.edu (atlas.usls.edu [202.47.133.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E43A437B848 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 19:31:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from francis@usls.edu) Received: by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4355C9B17; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:31:11 +0800 (PHT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371B05D15; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:31:11 +0800 (PHT) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:31:11 +0800 (PHT) From: "Francis A. Vidal" To: "Ian R. Justman" Cc: Mitch Vincent , FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Qpopper and hashed directories In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ---- Quoting Ian R. Justman's message, sent 02/17/00 1:07pm ---- > True, he MTA would deliver, though the MDA would be what really > deal with those directories (in this case, Procmail). > > I am curious whether anyone had already implemented directory > hashing for reading and handling such directories in Qpopper > (which we rather need to stay with presently, though my workplace > is considering going to CUCIPOP). We've done this using the UW IMAP package. The users' home directories are hashed depending on their lastname, for example: User: Juan Cruz Username: jcruz Home: /home/users/c/jcruz Mailspool: /home/users/c/jcruz/.mailbox -- francis vidal university of st. la salle, bacolod city, philippines . . . . . . . PGP key available via e-mail / subject: get PGP key u s l s N E T tel nos. (+63.34).433.3526 / fax (+63.34).434.0415 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 18 0:14:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.usls.edu (atlas.usls.edu [202.47.133.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173A637B868 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 00:14:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from francis@usls.edu) Received: by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C8C109B1E; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:13:16 +0800 (PHT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD76D5D15 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:13:16 +0800 (PHT) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:13:16 +0800 (PHT) From: "Francis A. Vidal" To: FreeBSD ISP Subject: download FreeBSD-4.0 ISO image Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, Do you know where I can download an ISO image of FreeBSD-4.0? -- francis vidal university of st. la salle, bacolod city, philippines . . . . . . . PGP key available via e-mail / subject: get PGP key u s l s N E T tel nos. (+63.34).433.3526 / fax (+63.34).434.0415 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 18 2: 2:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tigger.key.co.za (tigger.key.co.za [196.2.147.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B134837B795 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:02:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@tigger.key.co.za) Received: from peter (helo=localhost) by tigger.key.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12LkEp-0005q9-00; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:02:15 +0200 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:02:15 +0200 (SAST) From: Peter Lockhart To: isp@freebsd.org Cc: Andre Bruton Subject: Supported host RAID cards. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am looking for a not-too-pricey RAID solution for a new server I am building. I will be running RAID0+1, but would like some advice on what SCSI RAID host adapter card to buy. I had my eye on the Adaptec AAA-131, but according to 4.0's RELNOTES it isnt supported. Mylex' AcceleRAID cards look good too , but no word of support in said RELNOTES. http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/raid/ was rather helpful too, but it all seems to point to DPT controllers. The only mention of RAID in the handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install-hw.html) refers to DPT too. Judging by LINT's options, DPT seems the way to go too. Choice by default seems to be the DPT PM3334 series cards. (http://www.dpt.com/products/pm3334uw.html - described as "previous generation" on DPT's page - are we losing out on much here ? I see a 20MHz processor as opposed to Mylex's 66MHz, is this of real importance ?). What is the performance and reliability of these DPT's like ? The other option would be a SCSI-SCSI based system, but I'd like to keep the config as simple (and inexpensive) as possible :) Advice please :) Cheers Peter Lockhart Key Web Services http://key.co.za | peter@key.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 18 2:28: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from home.pl (home.pl [212.85.112.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D4E4737B7FB for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:28:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@home.pl) Received: from haven.home.net.pl (HELO haven) (212.85.112.2) by home.pl with SMTP; 18 Feb 2000 10:27:59 -0000 Message-ID: <02b301bf79fa$d92c3080$027055d4@haven.home.net.pl> From: "Steven Jurczyk" To: "Peter Lockhart" , Cc: "Andre Bruton" Subject: Odp: Supported host RAID cards. Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:28:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >I am looking for a not-too-pricey RAID solution for a new server I am >building. I will be running RAID0+1, but would like some advice on what >SCSI RAID host adapter card to buy. > >I had my eye on the Adaptec AAA-131, but according to 4.0's RELNOTES >it isnt supported. Mylex' AcceleRAID cards look good too , but no >word of support in said RELNOTES. Mylex AcceleRaid 150/200/250 works OK under 4.0... Bootblocks has some problems with booting from this card, but yesterday I fixed this so all works fine... PS. Mylex 250 with 8 MB RAM is about 500$... steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 18 3:15:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from PacHell.TelcoSucks.org (PacHell.TelcoSucks.org [207.90.181.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39ECE37B6F9 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 03:15:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ulf@PacHell.TelcoSucks.org) Received: (from ulf@localhost) by PacHell.TelcoSucks.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id DAA31088; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 03:14:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ulf) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 03:14:16 -0800 From: Ulf Zimmermann To: Steven Jurczyk Cc: Peter Lockhart , isp@FreeBSD.ORG, Andre Bruton Subject: Re: Odp: Supported host RAID cards. Message-ID: <20000218031416.A13038@PacHell.TelcoSucks.org> Reply-To: ulf@Alameda.net References: <02b301bf79fa$d92c3080$027055d4@haven.home.net.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <02b301bf79fa$d92c3080$027055d4@haven.home.net.pl>; from steve@home.pl on Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 11:28:08AM +0100 Organization: Alameda Networks, Inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 11:28:08AM +0100, Steven Jurczyk wrote: > >I am looking for a not-too-pricey RAID solution for a new server I am > >building. I will be running RAID0+1, but would like some advice on what > >SCSI RAID host adapter card to buy. > > > >I had my eye on the Adaptec AAA-131, but according to 4.0's RELNOTES > >it isnt supported. Mylex' AcceleRAID cards look good too , but no > >word of support in said RELNOTES. > > Mylex AcceleRaid 150/200/250 works OK under 4.0... Bootblocks has some > problems with booting from this card, but yesterday I fixed this so all > works fine... > > PS. Mylex 250 with 8 MB RAM is about 500$... Mylex AcceleRaid 250 with 16MB $399 at www.hypermicro.com > > steve > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Regards, Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 Alameda Networks, Inc. | http://www.Alameda.net | Fax#: 510-521-5073 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 18 4: 8:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.office.concisesystems.com.au (js1p2.kit.net.au [203.35.197.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE70537B711 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 04:08:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bruce@cs-technologies.com.au) Received: from blaptop ([192.168.1.10]) by alpha.office.concisesystems.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA11010 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:44:52 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from bruce@cs-technologies.com.au) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:25:36 +1100 Message-ID: <01BF79FA.7EECDB60.bruce@cs-technologies.com.au> From: Bruce Piper To: "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: Radiusd problems Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:25:35 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm using radiusd-cistron to authenticate from an 8-port terminal server (a Specialix Jetstream 4000). Everything's working fine except that when someone gets authenticated radiusd crashes and does a core dump. In my radius.log file I get the following for every authentication: Fri Feb 18 09:28:47 2000: Error: Dropping duplicate authentication packet from c lient termserver.domain.net.au - ID: 166 Fri Feb 18 09:28:50 2000: Auth: Login OK: [userxxx] (from nas termserver) And as the person gets authenticated my messages log looks like: Feb 18 09:28:43 alpha /kernel: pid 1514 (radiusd), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (c ore dumped) Apart from this it all works great. Any ideas what's going wrong? With many thanks Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 18 6:11: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.basspro.com (mail.basspro.com [12.14.224.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C6037B96C for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 06:11:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toddg@basspro.com) Received: from toddnt (netgate.basspro.com [12.14.224.160]) by mail.basspro.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA40172 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:13:27 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from toddg@basspro.com) From: "Todd Grimes" To: Subject: RE: download FreeBSD-4.0 ISO image Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:12:35 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES Todd Grimes Internet Systems Specialist Bass Pro Outdoors Online, L.L.C. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Francis A. Vidal Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 2:13 AM To: FreeBSD ISP Subject: download FreeBSD-4.0 ISO image Hi all, Do you know where I can download an ISO image of FreeBSD-4.0? -- francis vidal university of st. la salle, bacolod city, philippines . . . . . . . PGP key available via e-mail / subject: get PGP key u s l s N E T tel nos. (+63.34).433.3526 / fax (+63.34).434.0415 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 18 7:34:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ffm.plusline.de (mail.ffm.plusline.de [212.19.48.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A0437B99F for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 07:34:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rg@plusline.de) Received: from plusline.de (office.plusline.de [212.19.48.75] (may be forged)) by mail.ffm.plusline.de (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA15565 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:34:28 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <38AD667F.F5DC9D42@plusline.de> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:34:23 +0100 From: Richard Gresek Reply-To: rg@plusline.de Organization: Plus.line GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: internal modem on Toshiba Satellite 2650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, does anybody know how to activate/configure Toshiba's internal modem on a Satellite 2650? When checked under Windows the modem behaves as com2 with IRQ3 and IO port 0x2f8. Unfortunately the FreeBSD kernel does not find the modem as a sio1: sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1 not found at 0x2f8 Does anybody know what to do? Thanks in advance Richard Gresek -- ==================> Plus.line <======================= Plus.Line Systemhaus GmbH Tel.: +49 69 7589150 Mainzer Lstr. 224 Fax : +49 69 75891533 D-60327 Frankfurt http://www.plusline.net ==================> Plus.line <======================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 18 8:35:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from matthew.uk1.vbc.net (matthew.uk1.vbc.net [194.207.2.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83B437B926 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:35:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdd@vbc.net) Received: from localhost (jdd@localhost) by matthew.uk1.vbc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08684; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:34:13 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: matthew.uk1.vbc.net: jdd owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:34:13 +0000 (GMT) From: Jim Dixon X-Sender: jdd@matthew.uk1.vbc.net To: Steven Jurczyk Cc: Peter Lockhart , isp@FreeBSD.ORG, Andre Bruton Subject: Re: Odp: Supported host RAID cards. In-Reply-To: <02b301bf79fa$d92c3080$027055d4@haven.home.net.pl> Message-ID: X-NCC-RegID: uk.vbcnet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, Steven Jurczyk wrote: > >I am looking for a not-too-pricey RAID solution for a new server I am > >building. I will be running RAID0+1, but would like some advice on what > >SCSI RAID host adapter card to buy. > > > >I had my eye on the Adaptec AAA-131, but according to 4.0's RELNOTES > >it isnt supported. Mylex' AcceleRAID cards look good too , but no > >word of support in said RELNOTES. > > Mylex AcceleRaid 150/200/250 works OK under 4.0... Bootblocks has some > problems with booting from this card, but yesterday I fixed this so all > works fine... Any idea of when support for the AcceleRaid 352 will be available? -- Jim Dixon VBCnet GB Ltd http://www.vbc.net tel +44 117 929 1316 fax +44 117 927 2015 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 18 8:55:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rock.ghis.net (rock.ghis.net [209.222.164.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF0737B965 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:55:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from will@blackdawn.com) Received: from shadow.blackdawn.com (postfix@19-150.008.popsite.net [209.69.196.150] (may be forged)) by rock.ghis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA80268; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:55:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by shadow.blackdawn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BC8FE1A18; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:55:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:55:30 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: spork Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Chilisoft ASP + FreeBSD Message-ID: <20000218115530.B8903@shadow.blackdawn.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from spork@super-g.com on Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 04:32:53PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 04:32:53PM -0500, spork wrote: > Hi, > > Is it possible to compile apache with a module built for Linux? Chilisoft > (makers of an ASP-work-alike www.chilisoft.com) have an open beta for > linux. Before I enter the world of linux compatibility and all, has > anyone tried this? You could ask about a native FreeBSD version. :-) -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 18 9:28:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hydrant.intranova.net (hydrant.intranova.net [209.201.95.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EA25737B9DE for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 09:28:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oogali@intranova.net) Received: (qmail 3639 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2000 17:26:54 -0000 Received: from localhost (oogali@127.0.0.1) by hydrant.intranova.net with SMTP; 18 Feb 2000 17:26:54 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:26:54 -0500 (EST) From: Omachonu Ogali To: "Francis A. Vidal" Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: download FreeBSD-4.0 ISO image In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/ On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, Francis A. Vidal wrote: > Hi all, > > Do you know where I can download an ISO image of FreeBSD-4.0? > > -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Omachonu Ogali oogali@intranova.net | | Intranova Networking Group http://tribune.intranova.net | | PGP Key ID: 0xBFE60839 | | PGP Fingerprint: C8 51 14 FD 2A 87 53 D1 E3 AA 12 12 01 93 BD 34 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 18 10:23:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from super-g.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858D737B9D9 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:23:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: by super-g.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9B571D236; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:23:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 82242D201; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:23:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:23:19 -0500 (EST) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: Will Andrews Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Chilisoft ASP + FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20000218115530.B8903@shadow.blackdawn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, Will Andrews wrote: > On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 04:32:53PM -0500, spork wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Is it possible to compile apache with a module built for Linux? Chilisoft > > (makers of an ASP-work-alike www.chilisoft.com) have an open beta for > > linux. Before I enter the world of linux compatibility and all, has > > anyone tried this? > > You could ask about a native FreeBSD version. :-) I have, there's a nice platform-request form there. There is a field for comments in which I entered something along the lines of "...while linux is gaining desktops, FreeBSD is gaining server share, especially in the ISP market, where your product would be very useful...etc..etc..." Feel free to do the same if this product is of interest to you... Charles > -- > Will Andrews > GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- > ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ > G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 18 10:28:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from super-g.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1EA37B9D9; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:28:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: by super-g.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 09AB6D230; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:28:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E378ED201; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:28:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:28:15 -0500 (EST) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: wellsian Cc: Danny , Phillip Salzman , Bruce Piper , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Billing software In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Platypus is very nice for a dialup base, but be prepared for some work if you do lots of web-hosting, leased-lines, or other non-dialup business. Be ready for learning how gross Crystal Reports and NT SQL server are... Had lots of issues getting them to help get their unix account-creation daemon running on FreeBSD... Support generally assumes you have good NT SQL knowledge. If we had to do it again, we'd look further. If your base is all dial though, and you can use it out of the box, it's wonderful. Charles On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, wellsian wrote: > Some might take offense. :) That would be http://. > > Platypus is very NT and MSSQL specific but can handle many thousands of > customers on a well-built system. And Boardtown will even do your > invoicing for very reasonable fees, something nice for small-medium ISPs > who hate waiting for their printer. And folding. Once you get into this > size of system though it's good to do some serious evaluation. There are > many competing products out now and I can say from experience that > discovering you bought the wrong one is a bummer. No, Platypus was not > "the wrong one", it's fine. But compared with 5 years ago there are now > many choices. Check this site and the list for more information: > > http://isp-lists.com/isp-invoicing/ > > Dave > > On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Danny wrote: > > > www.broadtown.com > > > > Platyus is a very good ISP billing software. > > Shame is hosted on NT thou > > > > > > At 10:24 15/02/00 +0000, Phillip Salzman wrote: > > >Try freeside. I've never actually used it, but i'm told it > > >isn't bad. > > > > > >-- > > >Phillip Salzman > > > > > >On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Bruce Piper wrote: > > > > > >> Can anyone recommend billing software for a (very small) ISP - about 50 > > >> subscribers? > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 18 13:20:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from richard2.pil.net (richard2.pil.net [207.8.164.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF0D937BAAE for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:20:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from up@3.am) Received: (qmail 27237 invoked by uid 1825); 18 Feb 2000 21:20:32 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Feb 2000 21:20:32 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:20:32 -0500 (EST) From: X-Sender: up@richard2.pil.net To: Todd Grimes Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: download FreeBSD-4.0 ISO image In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, Todd Grimes wrote: > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES Sorry if this is OT, but I've tried -questions on a related topic to no avail, and the searchable archives are down. Anybody have any experience burning these images using Adaptec Toast (USB) on a Mac? I've ruined 4 CDs so far...set it for ISO 9660, ISO labels, 2x write speed...I'm out of ideas. My last attempt won't even mount, let alone boot. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Francis A. Vidal > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 2:13 AM > To: FreeBSD ISP > Subject: download FreeBSD-4.0 ISO image > > > Hi all, > > Do you know where I can download an ISO image of FreeBSD-4.0? > > -- > francis vidal university of st. la salle, bacolod city, philippines > . . . . . . . PGP key available via e-mail / subject: get PGP key > u s l s N E T tel nos. (+63.34).433.3526 / fax (+63.34).434.0415 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 18 14:30: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (dynamic-82.max4-du-ws.dialnetwork.pavilion.co.uk [212.74.9.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714F537BAD9 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA35311; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 21:11:42 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00833; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:41:16 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200002181641.QAA00833@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Phastnet" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: server ppp problem In-Reply-To: Message from "Phastnet" of "Thu, 17 Feb 2000 00:37:09 EST." <012d01bf7909$08d7f320$02ac14ac@mia.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:41:16 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi, I have FreeBSD 3.3R running as a dialup ppp server for at least a month > now. Everything has been working perfectly until yesterday. Now, if a user > disconnects improperly (such as pulling the phone cord out of his modem), > the server doesn't realize it! When it happened yesterday, the server was > denying him access, until I killed the ppp -direct process that was still > running, then he connected fine. It has happened a few more times today > (not sure what happened on their end), so I did some testing. It is > definitely just a problem when the user end disconnects suddenly, but it was > allowing me to log back in as any username, and would look like it was still > the original user!! Anyone have any ideas why the server isn't noticing the > dropped connections? Thanks for you help, and please let me know if this is > the wrong mailing list!! (I am trying to set this up as an ISP, so it SHOULD > be the right place) This is in the 3.3 ERRATA.TXT. If you upgrade to the latest (or even the latest -stable) version, the problem will go away. > Shawn -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 18 14:33:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.inr.net (mx1.inr.net [198.77.208.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F020837BAC2 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:33:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mylists@inr.net) Received: from wakko (wakko.inr.net [198.77.208.4]) by mx1.inr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA71152; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:33:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000218173303.00bec6c0@mx1.inr.net> X-Sender: mylists@mx1.inr.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:33:03 -0500 To: "Ian R. Justman" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "N.B. DelMore" Subject: Re: Qpopper and hashed directories In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:47 PM 02/17/2000 -0800, Ian R. Justman wrote: >Just curious, has anyone implemented directory hashing with mailspools >under qpopper, e.g. /var/mail/j/joeuser? This would be helpful in a >situation where you have thousands of mailspools. I'm using hashed spools with cucipop and procmail. It works quite well. Regards Noel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 18 16:48:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.bna.bellsouth.net (mail2.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9973337BB36 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:48:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.com) Received: from siteplus.com (host-209-214-41-102.cha.bellsouth.net [209.214.41.102]) by mail2.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id TAA18241; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:48:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38ADE930.87C34505@siteplus.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:52:00 -0500 From: Jim Weeks X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i486) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rg@plusline.de Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: internal modem on Toshiba Satellite 2650 References: <38AD667F.F5DC9D42@plusline.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think you will find that you have a pci modem which is generally not supported. Richard Gresek wrote: > Hi, > > does anybody know how to activate/configure Toshiba's > internal modem on a Satellite 2650? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 18 16:54:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (blaubaer.kn-bremen.de [195.37.179.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7320537BAA0; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:54:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (uucp@localhost) by blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id BAA00647; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 01:48:56 +0100 Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.9.3/8.8.5) id AAA03216; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 00:33:35 +0100 (CET) From: Juergen Lock Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 00:33:34 +0100 To: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: `higer level' packet filter rules language/editor to ease maintainance? Message-ID: <20000219003334.A1117@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! Is there such a thing as in the subject? Something that lets me, say, put rules in groups, easily move around or clone groups, apply global changes to groups like search/replace addresses/netmasks? sure i can hack something up with a bit of perl/whatever for my specific problem, but maybe there is something more general out there... I currently need something for ipfw but even if what you use only knows ipfilter (or something else?) i'd like to hear about it, i may happen to like it so much that i'd just add ipfw support... :) (as long as source is available, obviously.) I have seen `flc' that was linked on (i think) the ipfilter homepage but decided to ask here first as it seems no longer maintained and would need to be updated (its from 1995!) to at least add all the ipfw features that are new since then. The idea to be able to generate rules for several different packet filters from the same input file certainly looked interesting tho and it would seem a bit strange to assume that really noone uses it anymore... (or is there a successor maybe?) Regards, -- Juergen Lock (remove dot foo from address to reply) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 18 17: 3:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cairo.anu.edu.au (cairo.anu.edu.au [150.203.224.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153B037BB46; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:03:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from avalon@cairo.anu.edu.au) Received: (from avalon@localhost) by cairo.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA17185; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 12:03:28 +1100 (EST) From: Darren Reed Message-Id: <200002190103.MAA17185@cairo.anu.edu.au> Subject: Re: `higer level' packet filter rules language/editor to ease maintainance? To: nox@jelal.kn-bremen.de (Juergen Lock) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 12:03:28 +1100 (Australia/NSW) Cc: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20000219003334.A1117@saturn.kn-bremen.de> from "Juergen Lock" at Feb 19, 2000 12:33:34 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In some mail from Juergen Lock, sie said: > > Hi! > > Is there such a thing as in the subject? Something that lets me, > say, put rules in groups, easily move around or clone groups, apply > global changes to groups like search/replace addresses/netmasks? > sure i can hack something up with a bit of perl/whatever for my > specific problem, but maybe there is something more general out > there... > > I currently need something for ipfw but even if what you use only > knows ipfilter (or something else?) i'd like to hear about it, > i may happen to like it so much that i'd just add ipfw > support... :) (as long as source is available, obviously.) > > I have seen `flc' that was linked on (i think) the ipfilter homepage > but decided to ask here first as it seems no longer maintained and > would need to be updated (its from 1995!) to at least add all the > ipfw features that are new since then. The idea to be able to > generate rules for several different packet filters from the same > input file certainly looked interesting tho and it would seem a > bit strange to assume that really noone uses it anymore... > (or is there a successor maybe?) I don't know if anyone else has done anything similar, I did it more as a "proof of concept" thing and haven't really gone back to it since then. Too many things to do and not enough time :) Darren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 19 1:24:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bigcity.net (mail.bigcity.net [209.0.205.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691BD37BBBA for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 01:24:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from josh@bigcity.net) Received: from lurker [209.0.207.97] by bigcity.net (SMTPD32-6.00) id A3B662B1014E; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 03:34:46 -0600 Message-ID: <00e101bf7abb$5ad5d760$0201010a@diginix.net> From: "Josh" To: References: <38AD667F.F5DC9D42@plusline.de> Subject: Re: internal modem on Toshiba Satellite 2650 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:01:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You can check on www.linux.org ->Hardware->Laptops, and find out how other people set it up in linux. This is a nice database that they created and comes in handy when ever I get a laptop not working for me. -Josh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Gresek" To: Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 9:34 AM Subject: internal modem on Toshiba Satellite 2650 > Hi, > > does anybody know how to activate/configure Toshiba's > internal modem on a Satellite 2650? > > When checked under Windows the modem behaves as > com2 with IRQ3 and IO port 0x2f8. Unfortunately > the FreeBSD kernel does not find the modem as > a sio1: > > sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > sio1 not found at 0x2f8 > > Does anybody know what to do? > > Thanks in advance > > Richard Gresek > > > -- > ==================> Plus.line <======================= > > Plus.Line Systemhaus GmbH Tel.: +49 69 7589150 > Mainzer Lstr. 224 Fax : +49 69 75891533 > D-60327 Frankfurt http://www.plusline.net > > ==================> Plus.line <======================= > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 19 6:35: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gate.webclub.ru (gate.web2000.ru [195.58.61.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A128037BCA3 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 06:34:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from novikov@webclub.ru) Received: from newbee.web2000.ru ([195.58.61.40]) by gate.webclub.ru with smtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12MAxE-0002bU-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 17:33:52 +0300 From: Andrey Novikov Organization: WebClub To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: ipfw & bandwidth Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 17:30:13 +0300 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00021917323700.08528@newbee.web2000.ru> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, is seemed to me that ipfw had bandwidth controlling rules, but I can't find any doc about that. Or was it in my dreams? If yes - what internal freebsd staff can I use to set bendwidth rules? Andrey Novikov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 19 6:40:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99BFC37BBC0 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 06:40:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA85167; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 15:40:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200002191440.PAA85167@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: ipfw & bandwidth In-Reply-To: <00021917323700.08528@newbee.web2000.ru> from Andrey Novikov at "Feb 19, 2000 05:30:13 pm" To: Andrey Novikov Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 15:40:05 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hello, > > is seemed to me that ipfw had bandwidth controlling > rules, but I can't find any doc about that. Or was it in my > dreams? If yes - what internal freebsd staff can I use to > set bendwidth rules? man dummynet and man ipfw (especially if you get some updated versions) should help, as well as http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ip_dummynet (assuming you can reach us as connectivity for the last week has been bad). cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 19 6:52: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from itesec.hsc.fr (itesec.hsc.fr [192.70.106.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9937437BC5A; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 06:51:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Alain.Thivillon@hsc.fr) Received: by itesec.hsc.fr (Postfix) id 8BB3A10EAE; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 13:09:32 +0100 (CET) Received: by itesec.hsc.fr (Postfix) id 8BB3A10EAE; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 13:09:32 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 13:09:14 +0100 From: Alain Thivillon To: Juergen Lock Cc: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: `higer level' packet filter rules language/editor to ease maintainance? Message-ID: <20000219130914.H720@yoko.hsc.fr> References: <20000219003334.A1117@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.3i In-Reply-To: <20000219003334.A1117@saturn.kn-bremen.de>; from nox@jelal.kn-bremen.de on Sat, Feb 19, 2000 at 12:33:34AM +0100 X-Organization: Herve Schauer Consultants Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Juergen Lock écrivait (wrote) : > Hi! > > Is there such a thing as in the subject? Something that lets me, > say, put rules in groups, easily move around or clone groups, apply > global changes to groups like search/replace addresses/netmasks? > sure i can hack something up with a bit of perl/whatever for my > specific problem, but maybe there is something more general out > there... See NetPartitionner : http://www.solsoft.com/ generates Acls for Cisco,ipfw,ipf,ipchains,NetSentry,ACC, from an ascii higl level language (can be wrttten using a nice Java interface). Bit it's not free .. -- Alain Thivillon -+- Alain.Thivillon@hsc.fr -+- Hervé Schauer Consultants To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 19 7:43:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gate.webclub.ru (gate.web2000.ru [195.58.61.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005FB37BC7E for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 07:43:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from novikov@webclub.ru) Received: from newbee.web2000.ru ([195.58.61.40]) by gate.webclub.ru with smtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12MC1X-0002kY-00 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 18:42:23 +0300 From: Andrey Novikov Organization: WebClub To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfw & bandwidth Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 18:39:02 +0300 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain References: <200002191440.PAA85167@info.iet.unipi.it> In-Reply-To: <200002191440.PAA85167@info.iet.unipi.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00021918410600.08840@newbee.web2000.ru> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > man dummynet and man ipfw (especially if you get some updated versions) > should help, as well as http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ip_dummynet > (assuming you can reach us as connectivity for the last week has been bad). Problem: # ipfw pipe 1 config bandwidth 8Kbit/s ipfw: setsockopt(IP_DUMMYNET_CONFIGURE): Invalid argument # ipfw show ... 03100 0 0 pipe 1 ip from any to any in # cat /var/run/dmesg.boot ... DUMMYNET initialized (000212) Any ideas? Andrey Novikov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 19 7:52:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.tcworks.net (ns.tcworks.net [216.61.218.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E1A37BCC3 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 07:52:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Received: from tcworks.net (xcess@stuck.sticky.org [216.61.218.6]) by ns.tcworks.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA27728; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 09:50:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Message-ID: <38AEBB7E.5C68CA93@tcworks.net> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 09:49:18 -0600 From: Chris Cook X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: Andrey Novikov , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfw & bandwidth References: <200002191440.PAA85167@info.iet.unipi.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello All, This thread has reminded me of a question I've been meaning to ask. Does dummynet and ipfw support traffic shaping or something more like Committed Access Rate for bandwidth limiting? Thanks... -- Chris Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > is seemed to me that ipfw had bandwidth controlling > > rules, but I can't find any doc about that. Or was it in my > > dreams? If yes - what internal freebsd staff can I use to > > set bendwidth rules? > > man dummynet and man ipfw (especially if you get some updated versions) > should help, as well as http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ip_dummynet > (assuming you can reach us as connectivity for the last week has been bad). > > cheers > luigi > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 19 8:24:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 777C237BC18 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 08:24:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA54620; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 11:23:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 11:23:45 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Hovey To: Andrey Novikov Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfw & bandwidth In-Reply-To: <00021918410600.08840@newbee.web2000.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Andrey Novikov wrote: > > man dummynet and man ipfw (especially if you get some updated versions) > > should help, as well as http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ip_dummynet > > (assuming you can reach us as connectivity for the last week has been bad). > Problem: > > # ipfw pipe 1 config bandwidth 8Kbit/s > ipfw: setsockopt(IP_DUMMYNET_CONFIGURE): Invalid argument You have to have the firewalling and dummynet config'd and compiled into the kernel. > > # ipfw show > ... > 03100 0 0 pipe 1 ip from any to any in > > # cat /var/run/dmesg.boot > ... > DUMMYNET initialized (000212) > > Any ideas? > > Andrey Novikov > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 19 8:34:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gate.webclub.ru (gate.web2000.ru [195.58.61.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF78B37B6CE for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 08:34:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from novikov@webclub.ru) Received: from newbee.web2000.ru ([195.58.61.40]) by gate.webclub.ru with smtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12MCot-0002rD-00; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 19:33:23 +0300 From: Andrey Novikov Organization: WebClub To: Steve Hovey Subject: Re: ipfw & bandwidth Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 19:30:39 +0300 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00021919315200.00420@newbee.web2000.ru> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > You have to have the firewalling and dummynet config'd and compiled into > the kernel. Please look what I've typed below: > > # ipfw show > > ... > > 03100 0 0 pipe 1 ip from any to any in ipfw works > > > > # cat /var/run/dmesg.boot > > ... > > DUMMYNET initialized (000212) > > dummynet initializes at startup To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 19 11:12: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D3837B81B for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 11:11:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA85909; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 20:11:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200002191911.UAA85909@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: ipfw & bandwidth In-Reply-To: from Steve Hovey at "Feb 19, 2000 11:23:45 am" To: Steve Hovey Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 20:11:25 +0100 (CET) Cc: Andrey Novikov , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > # ipfw pipe 1 config bandwidth 8Kbit/s > > ipfw: setsockopt(IP_DUMMYNET_CONFIGURE): Invalid argument the keyword is "bw" not "bandwidth" (not sure, is the example on the web page wrong perhaps ?) luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 19 11:18:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14EC37BC1A for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 11:18:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA85936; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 20:15:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200002191915.UAA85936@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: ipfw & bandwidth In-Reply-To: <38AEBB7E.5C68CA93@tcworks.net> from Chris Cook at "Feb 19, 2000 09:49:18 am" To: Chris Cook Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 20:15:15 +0100 (CET) Cc: Andrey Novikov , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hello All, > > This thread has reminded me of a question I've been meaning to ask. > Does dummynet and ipfw support traffic shaping or something more like > Committed Access Rate for bandwidth limiting? Thanks... i'd say traffic shaping yes, because i have no idea of what you mean by "Committed Access Rate" luigi what is this > -- > Chris > > Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > is seemed to me that ipfw had bandwidth controlling > > > rules, but I can't find any doc about that. Or was it in my > > > dreams? If yes - what internal freebsd staff can I use to > > > set bendwidth rules? > > > > man dummynet and man ipfw (especially if you get some updated versions) > > should help, as well as http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ip_dummynet > > (assuming you can reach us as connectivity for the last week has been bad). > > > > cheers > > luigi > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 19 12: 6: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from celery.dragondata.com (celery.dragondata.com [205.253.12.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D5F37B956 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 12:06:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toasty@celery.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by celery.dragondata.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA98366; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 13:27:45 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from toasty) From: Kevin Day Message-Id: <200002191927.NAA98366@celery.dragondata.com> Subject: Re: ipfw & bandwidth To: luigi@info.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 13:27:45 -0600 (CST) Cc: ccook@tcworks.net (Chris Cook), novikov@webclub.ru (Andrey Novikov), freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200002191915.UAA85936@info.iet.unipi.it> from "Luigi Rizzo" at Feb 19, 2000 08:15:15 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > Hello All, > > > > This thread has reminded me of a question I've been meaning to ask. > > Does dummynet and ipfw support traffic shaping or something more like > > Committed Access Rate for bandwidth limiting? Thanks... > > i'd say traffic shaping yes, because i have no idea of what > you mean by "Committed Access Rate" > > luigi See http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios111/cc111/car.htm Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 19 12:53:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE68B37BC7D for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 12:53:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA86217; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 21:53:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200002192053.VAA86217@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: ipfw & bandwidth In-Reply-To: <200002191927.NAA98366@celery.dragondata.com> from Kevin Day at "Feb 19, 2000 01:27:45 pm" To: Kevin Day Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 21:53:09 +0100 (CET) Cc: Chris Cook , Andrey Novikov , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > Does dummynet and ipfw support traffic shaping or something more like > > > Committed Access Rate for bandwidth limiting? Thanks... > > > > i'd say traffic shaping yes, because i have no idea of what > > you mean by "Committed Access Rate" > > > > luigi > > See > http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios111/cc111/car.htm ok, so dummynet does shaping. luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 19 17:45:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.volant.org (phoenix.volant.org [205.179.79.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFBCE37BD9B for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 17:45:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patl@phoenix.volant.org) Received: from asimov.phoenix.volant.org ([205.179.79.65]) by phoenix.volant.org with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #8) for isp@freebsd.org id 12MLRA-00037t-00; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 17:45:28 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by asimov.phoenix.volant.org (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA24067 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 17:45:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 17:45:26 -0800 (PST) From: patl@phoenix.volant.org Reply-To: patl@phoenix.volant.org Subject: RAID mirroring of root partition? To: isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm about to set up a machine with a RAID-capable host adapter. (Probably an entry-level DPT.) The intent is to use simple mirroring to increase reliability. This is my first RAID system; and I'm a bit unclear on some of the low-level details. In particular, is it safe to mirror the root partition; or could that lead to problems during booting? Thanks, -Pat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message