From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 27 11: 0:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from roble.com (roble.com [206.40.34.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8E137B53B for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:00:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sendmail@roble.com) Received: from roble2.roble.com (roble2.roble.com [206.40.34.52]) by roble.com (Roble1b) with SMTP id LAA27751 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:00:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:00:53 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Marquis To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Serial console vs. fixit shell Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD's serial console support is a great feature with the increasing popularity of 1U and 2U rackmount systems. The only problem is that you have to keep a monitor and keyboard handy for those times when a fixit shell is required. The boot->mfsroot->fixit floppies only get you to the "Press Alt-F4 to access the fixit shell" dialog box, and VT100 and ANSI serial terminals apparently don't understand Alt-F4. What is the reason for this odd key combination and, most importantly, is there a workaround that would allow a serial console to access this shell shell? -- Roger Marquis Roble Systems Consulting http://www.roble.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 28 3:15:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from liberty.bulinfo.net (liberty.bulinfo.net [212.72.195.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 85CA337B753 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 03:15:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from krassi@bulinfo.net) Received: (qmail 62700 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2000 11:15:14 -0000 Received: from pythia.bulinfo.net (HELO bulinfo.net) (212.72.195.5) by liberty.bulinfo.net with SMTP; 28 Feb 2000 11:15:14 -0000 Message-ID: <38BA3DAA.363A8818@bulinfo.net> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:19:38 +0200 From: Krassimir Slavchev X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: adduser? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, We plan to migrate from Linux to FreeBSD, and have some users with dot in its username's. I tried to add new user with a dot in its username, but adduser accepts only [a-z0-9_-]. Is there any reasons this to be not allowed? Best Regards Krassimir Slavchev To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 28 8:14:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from vpm.com (spunky.vpm.com [209.60.152.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4C537B8CE for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:14:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from support@vpm.com) Received: from movies (port-st50.cwo.com [209.63.55.60]) by vpm.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA87036 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:15:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000228080249.01f95580@mail.vpm.com> X-Sender: staff@mail.vpm.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:09:12 +0000 To: FreeBSD ISP From: VPM Support Subject: v3.4 Periodic Daily killing radius Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I recently upgraded to FreeBSD v3.4. Ever since doing to my radius on the authentication port keeps dying. Every morning the authentication process is not running but the accounting process is. Anyone else run into this? Thanks, Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 28 10: 8:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from boston.eaznet.com (boston.eaznet.com [216.19.20.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C5E137B90A for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:08:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eddie@eaznet.com) Received: from eaznet.com (admin.eaznet.com [216.19.20.16]) by boston.eaznet.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA26067 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:12:59 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38BABA13.2CFAA57A@eaznet.com> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:10:27 -0700 From: Eddie - EAZNet Internet Services Reply-To: eddie@eaznet.com Organization: EAZNet Internet Services, Safford, AZ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD ISP Mailing List Subject: ATM DS3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there a way to use a FreeBSD box to handle a 6MB DS3 over ATM? It wouldn't even have to do routing or anything. Just be able to break out the channel and feed it into a routers HSSI port. Any ideas? suggestions? I don't like the idea of spending $20k+ for a Cisco 7200 to do this... -- Eddie Fry eddie@eaznet.com EAZNet Internet Services 220 West 7th Street Safford, AZ 85546 (520) 348-0292 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 28 12:27:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from boston.eaznet.com (boston.eaznet.com [216.19.20.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E027B37B857 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:27:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eddie@eaznet.com) Received: from eaznet.com (admin.eaznet.com [216.19.20.16]) by boston.eaznet.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA01449 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:31:47 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38BADA99.29697706@eaznet.com> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:29:14 -0700 From: Eddie - EAZNet Internet Services Reply-To: eddie@eaznet.com Organization: EAZNet Internet Services, Safford, AZ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD ISP Mailing List Subject: OT: RedHat Linux help Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a customer that is looking for help (ASAP) with a RedHat Linux swapping problem. Anyone on the list feel comfortable in helping him? He'll pay, of course. Let me know and I'll forward your contact info to him. thanks, -- Eddie Fry eddie@eaznet.com EAZNet Internet Services 220 West 7th Street Safford, AZ 85546 (520) 348-0292 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 29 7:22:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tardis.patho.gen.nz (tardis.patho.gen.nz [203.97.2.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1434437BB8B for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 07:22:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jabley@tardis.patho.gen.nz) Received: (from jabley@localhost) by tardis.patho.gen.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA27694; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 04:22:19 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 04:22:18 +1300 From: Joe Abley To: Omachonu Ogali Cc: Stanley Hopcroft , ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How much for an (Autonomous System) AS number ? Message-ID: <20000301042216.A24877@patho.gen.nz> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from oogali@intranova.net on Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 07:08:05PM -0500 X-Files: the Truth is Out There Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 07:08:05PM -0500, Omachonu Ogali wrote: > First off, this is the wrong mailing list, secondly you're in APNIC's > coverage area so you go by their pricing. You're not allowed to get an AS > number from anyone else but your regional allocation organization (APNIC). Note this is not actually correct. RIPE are more than happy to service organisations in Asia Pacific with ASNs and netblocks, for example. Stanley, ASNs are free if you are an APNIC member (as is address space allocation). Note that membership does not automatically entitle you to allocations of autonomous system or network numbers however; you still need to satisfy minimum requirements for allocation which are all documented at or near www.apnic.net. If either of your upstream providers is an APNIC member, they should be able to obtain an ASN for you. When I have done this for customers here in NZ I haven't charged anything for it; your mileage may vary. It _was_ the wrong mailing list, though :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 29 7:28: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tardis.patho.gen.nz (tardis.patho.gen.nz [203.97.2.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7B637BBBD for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 07:27:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jabley@tardis.patho.gen.nz) Received: (from jabley@localhost) by tardis.patho.gen.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA07337; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 04:27:46 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 04:27:46 +1300 From: Joe Abley To: Eddie - EAZNet Internet Services Cc: FreeBSD ISP Mailing List Subject: Re: ATM DS3 Message-ID: <20000301042744.B24877@patho.gen.nz> References: <38BABA13.2CFAA57A@eaznet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <38BABA13.2CFAA57A@eaznet.com>; from eddie@eaznet.com on Mon, Feb 28, 2000 at 11:10:27AM -0700 X-Files: the Truth is Out There Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Feb 28, 2000 at 11:10:27AM -0700, Eddie - EAZNet Internet Services wrote: > Is there a way to use a FreeBSD box to handle a 6MB DS3 over ATM? It > wouldn't even have to do routing or anything. Just be able to break out > the channel and feed it into a routers HSSI port. The packets that arrive over your ATM PVC will be (probably) AAL5-framed, possibly with a SNAP header. You're unlikely to use this encapsulation over your HSSI interface (you're probably using cisco hdlc or ppp). So, unless you're planning some funky excursion into cells-in-frames, you're going to have to re-encapsulate -- which means you probably want to route. There is ATM support in FreeBSD, and I presume it handles PVCs if it does anything. Your questions really are, I think: + does anybody sell a DS3 ATM adapter which is supported by FreeBSD? + does anybody sell a HSSI adapter which is supported by FreeBSD? + will FreeBSD support (insert encaps here) over ATM encapsulation? + will FreeBSD support (insert encaps here) over HSSI encapsulation? > Any ideas? suggestions? I don't like the idea of spending $20k+ for a > Cisco 7200 to do this... I take it those are US$. Cisco ATM port adapters seem hideously expensive. Just another good reason to avoid ATM, I suppose :) Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 29 8:23:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ffm.plusline.de (mail.ffm.plusline.de [212.19.48.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544CC37BBDA for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:23:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rg@plusline.de) Received: from plusline.de (office.plusline.de [212.19.48.75] (may be forged)) by mail.ffm.plusline.de (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA25719 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:23:42 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <38BBF289.BC114856@plusline.de> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:23:37 +0100 From: Richard Gresek Reply-To: rg@plusline.de Organization: Plus.line GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Sound on Toshiba Satellite 2650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, so, previously I have learned that I won't be able to use Toshibas internal modem - as it is either a winmodem or a PCI modem which are not supported in FreeBSD. Still I would like to user the ESS sound-card in the notebook. This was possible with older Toshiba notebooks. Does anybody know what could be special on the Satellite 2650 and its ESS and what could I do to make it work? Thanks! Richard Gresek To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 29 8:53:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from flashmail.com (flash1.flashmail.com [207.173.216.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A67437B510 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:53:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mholloway@flashmail.com) Received: from sna ([206.135.117.1]) by flashmail.com ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:53:19 -0800 Message-ID: <002001bf82d5$7f5a6a20$a52410ac@sierrahealth.com> From: "Mark Holloway" To: Subject: OC3 versus T1 Circuits Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:53:25 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01BF8292.709E6C90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BF8292.709E6C90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a situation and maybe some of you can please advise: I have a core LAN/MAN/WAN campus with approximately 80 servers. I have = about ten different remote sites throughout the city (the MAN) which = clients log into a Windows NT domain and then access certain = applications. Until late 1999 they were running these applications in a = client/server fashion. The ten sites are all on a shared FDDI ring, but = each location is a 10MB, shared, half duplex connection. The original = strategy was to have a full OC3 from the main campus going to a Sprint = Central Office, then have 10MB fractional OC3 going to each site (almost = like Frame Relay in the MAN). However, we have since setup many Windows = Terminal Servers (25 servers @ 200 clients per server) and the clients = are using Citrix on their local desktops. This solution works well. = But now I am wondering if the fractional OC3 is overkill?? I was = thinking maybe either a T1 line or two T1 lines bonded for EACH SITE = rather than a 10MB OC3 for each site would be more realistic? Is a T1 = really .15 MB? Or 1.5MB? I think the slowness that most people = experience is due to the nature of the FDDI. Each site averages about = 60 clients, but a couple have up to 150 clients. When using Citrix = everything runs fine. The only apps they would run locally are Outlook = and some telnet sessions (pure ANSI, little overhead). =20 I apologize if this is too off topic, but I've always tried to = contribute to this list whenever possible. One thing to keep in mind is = that for each OC3 remote connection we were going to buy a 3Com = Pathbuilder 330 (designed for fractional OC3). This is approximately = $12,000 + the Pathbuilder 700 Ethernet blade for the the WAN switch at = the main campus (another several thousand dollars). A Cisco 2500 or = 2600 with bonded T1 is under $2000. =20 PLEASE, if anyone has any insite, feedback, or comments, I'd really = appreciate it.=20 Regards, Mark ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BF8292.709E6C90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a situation and maybe some of = you can please=20 advise:
 
I have a core LAN/MAN/WAN campus with = approximately=20 80 servers.  I have about ten different remote sites throughout the = city=20 (the MAN) which clients log into a Windows NT domain and then access = certain=20 applications.  Until late 1999 they were running these applications = in a=20 client/server fashion.  The ten sites are all on a shared FDDI = ring, but=20 each location is a 10MB, shared, half duplex connection.  The = original=20 strategy was to have a full OC3 from the main campus going to a Sprint = Central=20 Office, then have 10MB fractional OC3 going to each site (almost like = Frame=20 Relay in the MAN).  However, we have since setup many Windows = Terminal=20 Servers (25 servers @ 200 clients per server) and the clients are using = Citrix=20 on their local desktops.  This solution works well.  But now I = am=20 wondering if the fractional OC3 is overkill??  I was thinking maybe = either=20 a T1 line or two T1 lines bonded for EACH SITE rather than a 10MB OC3 = for each=20 site would be more realistic?  Is a T1 really .15 MB?  Or=20 1.5MB?   I think the slowness that most people experience is = due to=20 the nature of the FDDI.  Each site averages about 60 clients, but a = couple=20 have up to 150 clients.  When using Citrix everything runs = fine.  The=20 only apps they would run locally are Outlook and some telnet sessions = (pure=20 ANSI, little overhead). 
 
I apologize if this is too off topic, = but I've=20 always tried to contribute to this list whenever possible.  One = thing to=20 keep in mind is that for each OC3 remote connection we were going to buy = a 3Com=20 Pathbuilder 330 (designed for fractional OC3).  This is = approximately=20 $12,000 + the Pathbuilder 700 Ethernet blade for the the WAN switch at = the main=20 campus (another several thousand dollars).  A Cisco 2500 or 2600 = with=20 bonded T1 is under $2000. 
 
PLEASE, if anyone has any insite, = feedback, or=20 comments, I'd really appreciate it.
 
Regards,
Mark
 
------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BF8292.709E6C90-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 29 10:32:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC4037BCC6 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:32:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA29072; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:32:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200002291832.NAA29072@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:31:40 -0500 To: Joe Abley , Eddie - EAZNet Internet Services From: Dennis Subject: Re: ATM DS3 Cc: FreeBSD ISP Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20000301042744.B24877@patho.gen.nz> References: <38BABA13.2CFAA57A@eaznet.com> <38BABA13.2CFAA57A@eaznet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 04:27 AM 3/1/00 +1300, Joe Abley wrote: >On Mon, Feb 28, 2000 at 11:10:27AM -0700, Eddie - EAZNet Internet Services wrote: >> Is there a way to use a FreeBSD box to handle a 6MB DS3 over ATM? It >> wouldn't even have to do routing or anything. Just be able to break out >> the channel and feed it into a routers HSSI port. > >The packets that arrive over your ATM PVC will be (probably) AAL5-framed, >possibly with a SNAP header. You're unlikely to use this encapsulation >over your HSSI interface (you're probably using cisco hdlc or ppp). > >So, unless you're planning some funky excursion into cells-in-frames, >you're going to have to re-encapsulate -- which means you probably want >to route. > >There is ATM support in FreeBSD, and I presume it handles PVCs if it >does anything. Your questions really are, I think: > > + does anybody sell a DS3 ATM adapter which is supported by FreeBSD? > > + does anybody sell a HSSI adapter which is supported by FreeBSD? We have HSSI adapters, but you cant do ATM over HSSI because there is no cell deliniation information available. HSSI is typically HDLC protocols and ATM is not HDLC. The only way to use a HSSI for DS3 ATM is to use a convertor..typically the convertor translates ATM to Frame Relay and you run frame relay over the hssi. This, in fact, is what most providers do to provide frame relay DSL services which have a native ATM backbone. The last time I checked it was about $11,000. for a 1 port convertor, so you're looking at $15K or so for a freebsd solution with the convertor. It may be less now....Kentrox has one and GDC does (i think also)...but I've never priced that one. Of course you dont need a CSU/DSU with this solution, so you save $3000. there on a straight hssi. >I take it those are US$. Cisco ATM port adapters seem hideously expensive. >Just another good reason to avoid ATM, I suppose :) Yes, ATM sucks (plus you'll only get about 32M on a T3 usable bandwidth (vs 41M on a cisco hdlc hssi or frame relay line), but the telcos want it so you're stuck with it. Dennis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 29 10:37: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tardis.patho.gen.nz (tardis.patho.gen.nz [203.97.2.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E5937BC4C for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:36:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jabley@tardis.patho.gen.nz) Received: (from jabley@localhost) by tardis.patho.gen.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA32641; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:36:39 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:36:39 +1300 From: Joe Abley To: Dennis Cc: Eddie - EAZNet Internet Services , FreeBSD ISP Mailing List Subject: Re: ATM DS3 Message-ID: <20000301073637.A21432@patho.gen.nz> References: <38BABA13.2CFAA57A@eaznet.com> <38BABA13.2CFAA57A@eaznet.com> <20000301042744.B24877@patho.gen.nz> <200002291832.NAA29072@etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200002291832.NAA29072@etinc.com>; from dennis@etinc.com on Tue, Feb 29, 2000 at 01:31:40PM -0500 X-Files: the Truth is Out There Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Feb 29, 2000 at 01:31:40PM -0500, Dennis wrote: > We have HSSI adapters, but you cant do ATM over HSSI because there is no > cell deliniation information available. HSSI is typically HDLC protocols > and ATM is not HDLC. I was referring to this kind of carry-on: http://www.ziplink.net/~lroberts/Cells-In-Frames.html However, I have no idea whether it's real or not. > The only way to use a HSSI for DS3 ATM is to use a convertor..typically the > convertor translates ATM to Frame Relay and you run frame relay over the > hssi. This, in fact, is what most providers do to provide frame relay DSL > services which have a native ATM backbone. Using something like FRF.5. However, the obvious alternative for this particular application is to run the FreeBSD box as a router (1 x HSSI and 1 x ATM, always assuming you _can_ get that ATM adapter). > >I take it those are US$. Cisco ATM port adapters seem hideously expensive. > >Just another good reason to avoid ATM, I suppose :) > > Yes, ATM sucks (plus you'll only get about 32M on a T3 usable bandwidth (vs > 41M on a cisco hdlc hssi or frame relay line), but the telcos want it so > you're stuck with it. Ah, the enlightened telcos down here are delivering wide-area services on ethernet. Mmm. Cheap routers. Good. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 29 10:38:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E3A37BC78 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:38:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA29138; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:38:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200002291838.NAA29138@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:37:42 -0500 To: "Mark Holloway" , From: Dennis Subject: Re: OC3 versus T1 Circuits In-Reply-To: <002001bf82d5$7f5a6a20$a52410ac@sierrahealth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Why would you use bonded T1s rather than a HSSI frac T3, which would allow= you to set any speed up to T3? You could build a freebsd box with hssi for under 4K and have the maximum flexibility. Dennis At 08:53 AM 2/29/00 -0800, Mark Holloway wrote:=20 > > I have a situation and maybe some of you can please advise: > =A0 > I have a core LAN/MAN/WAN campus with approximately 80 servers.=A0 I have about > ten different remote sites throughout the city (the MAN) which clients log > into a Windows NT domain and then access certain applications.=A0 Until= late > 1999 they were running these applications in a client/server fashion.=A0= The > ten sites are all on a shared FDDI ring, but each location is a 10MB, shared, > half duplex connection.=A0 The original strategy was to have a full OC3= from > the main campus going to a Sprint Central Office, then have 10MB= fractional > OC3 going to each site (almost like Frame Relay in the MAN).=A0 However,= we > have since setup many Windows Terminal Servers (25 servers @ 200 clients= per > server) and the clients are using Citrix on their local desktops.=A0 This > solution works well.=A0 But now I am wondering if the fractional OC3 is > overkill??=A0 I was thinking maybe either a T1 line or two T1 lines bonded= for > EACH SITE rather than a 10MB OC3 for each site would be more realistic?=A0 Is a > T1 really .15 MB?=A0 Or 1.5MB?=A0=A0 I think the slowness that most people > experience is due to the nature of the FDDI.=A0 Each site averages about= 60 > clients, but a couple have up to 150 clients.=A0 When using Citrix= everything > runs fine.=A0 The only apps they would run locally are Outlook and some= telnet > sessions (pure ANSI, little overhead).=A0=20 > =A0 > I apologize if this is too off topic, but I've always tried to contribute= to > this list whenever possible.=A0 One thing to keep in mind is that for each= OC3 > remote connection we were going to buy a 3Com Pathbuilder 330 (designed= for > fractional OC3).=A0 This is approximately $12,000 + the Pathbuilder 700 > Ethernet blade for the the WAN switch at the main campus (another several > thousand dollars).=A0 A Cisco 2500 or 2600 with bonded T1 is under $2000.= =A0=20 > =A0 > PLEASE, if anyone has any insite, feedback, or comments, I'd really > appreciate it.=20 > =A0 > Regards, > Mark > =A0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 29 13:50: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from nhj.nlc.net.au (nhj.nlc.net.au [203.24.133.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A132C37BAFA for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:49:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john.saunders@nlc.net.au) Received: (qmail 8540 invoked by uid 1000); 1 Mar 2000 08:49:23 +1100 Date: 1 Mar 2000 08:49:23 +1100 Message-ID: <20000229214923.8536.qmail@nhj.nlc.net.au> From: "John Saunders" To: Krassimir Slavchev Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: adduser? X-Newsgroups: nlc.lists.freebsd-isp In-Reply-To: <38BA3DAA.363A8818@bulinfo.net> User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980818 ("Laura") (UNIX) (Linux/2.0.37 (i686)) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In nlc.lists.freebsd-isp you wrote: > We plan to migrate from Linux to FreeBSD, and have some users with dot > in its username's. > I tried to add new user with a dot in its username, but adduser accepts > only [a-z0-9_-]. > Is there any reasons this to be not allowed? Suppose the username is fred.smith and the account is in a group called customers. So you want to fix up the ownership permissions on his directory when he mucks it up be playing around one day. # chown -R fred.smith.customers ~fred.smith Chown cannot determine which '.' seperates the username from the group. That is about the only problem I came across when (briefly) allowing usernames with a '.' in them. Mainly the automated scripts bit me. -- +------------------------------------------------------------+ . | John Saunders - mailto:john@nlc.net.au (EMail) | ,--_|\ | - http://www.nlc.net.au/ (WWW) | / Oz \ | - 02-9489-4932 or 04-1822-3814 (Phone) | \_,--\_/ | NORTHLINK COMMUNICATIONS P/L - Supplying a professional, | v | and above all friendly, internet connection service. | +------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 29 13:58:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from zoe.qserve.net (zoe.qserve.net [207.250.219.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E09F37BAFA for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:58:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rch@qserve.net) Received: from acidic (acidic.qserve.net [207.250.219.40]) by zoe.qserve.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA10096; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:57:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000229170724.00ad28a0@qserve.net> X-Sender: rch@qserve.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:09:34 -0500 To: "John Saunders" , Krassimir Slavchev From: Robert Hough Subject: Re: adduser? Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20000229214923.8536.qmail@nhj.nlc.net.au> References: <38BA3DAA.363A8818@bulinfo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 08:49 AM 3/1/00 +1100, John Saunders wrote: >Suppose the username is fred.smith and the account is in a group called >customers. So you want to fix up the ownership permissions on his >directory when he mucks it up be playing around one day. You can get around that by using the uid and gid's instead of the actual names. chown uid.gid filename.txt As to the original question, I honestly don't remember... :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 29 18:10:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from copernicus.acol.com (copernicus.acol.com [216.204.50.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70EFE37B843 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:10:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from viper@2ghz.net) Received: from 2ghz.net (ppp106.net-resource.com [216.204.46.106]) by copernicus.acol.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA30980; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 21:10:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38BC7C9B.D6CD19AB@2ghz.net> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 21:12:43 -0500 From: Adam Rheaume X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Holloway Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OC3 versus T1 Circuits References: <200002291838.NAA29138@etinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If they are all going to be pure ansi and only 60 concurrent connections running at lets say 38400 a full T1 would be fine. With OE and maybe some web/file stuff to be safe I would say a bonded 2 T1's would be perfect. Maybe overkill also.. What per K will each user pull that is the question also will they all use it at the same time. Think like a ISP, when there are dial in users there is never enough for the whole cust base to dial in at once it is based on a percentage. -=>Adam<=- Dennis wrote: > > Why would you use bonded T1s rather than a HSSI frac T3, which would allow you > to set any speed up to T3? > > You could build a freebsd box with hssi for under 4K and have the maximum > flexibility. > > Dennis > > At 08:53 AM 2/29/00 -0800, Mark Holloway wrote: > > > > I have a situation and maybe some of you can please advise: > > > > I have a core LAN/MAN/WAN campus with approximately 80 servers. I have > about > > ten different remote sites throughout the city (the MAN) which clients log > > into a Windows NT domain and then access certain applications. Until late > > 1999 they were running these applications in a client/server fashion. The > > ten sites are all on a shared FDDI ring, but each location is a 10MB, > shared, > > half duplex connection. The original strategy was to have a full OC3 from > > the main campus going to a Sprint Central Office, then have 10MB fractional > > OC3 going to each site (almost like Frame Relay in the MAN). However, we > > have since setup many Windows Terminal Servers (25 servers @ 200 clients per > > server) and the clients are using Citrix on their local desktops. This > > solution works well. But now I am wondering if the fractional OC3 is > > overkill?? I was thinking maybe either a T1 line or two T1 lines bonded for > > EACH SITE rather than a 10MB OC3 for each site would be more realistic? > Is a > > T1 really .15 MB? Or 1.5MB? I think the slowness that most people > > experience is due to the nature of the FDDI. Each site averages about 60 > > clients, but a couple have up to 150 clients. When using Citrix everything > > runs fine. The only apps they would run locally are Outlook and some telnet > > sessions (pure ANSI, little overhead). > > > > I apologize if this is too off topic, but I've always tried to contribute to > > this list whenever possible. One thing to keep in mind is that for each OC3 > > remote connection we were going to buy a 3Com Pathbuilder 330 (designed for > > fractional OC3). This is approximately $12,000 + the Pathbuilder 700 > > Ethernet blade for the the WAN switch at the main campus (another several > > thousand dollars). A Cisco 2500 or 2600 with bonded T1 is under $2000. > > > > PLEASE, if anyone has any insite, feedback, or comments, I'd really > > appreciate it. > > > > Regards, > > Mark > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- ----------------- System Tech www.acol.com 508-865-8561 ----------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 29 18:39:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.theinternet.com.au (zeus.theinternet.com.au [203.34.176.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6682437BD26 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:39:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from akm@mail.theinternet.com.au) Received: (from akm@localhost) by mail.theinternet.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA56681; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:37:22 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from akm) From: Andrew Kenneth Milton Message-Id: <200003010237.MAA56681@mail.theinternet.com.au> Subject: Re: adduser? In-Reply-To: <20000229214923.8536.qmail@nhj.nlc.net.au> from John Saunders at "Mar 1, 2000 08:49:23 am" To: John Saunders Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:37:22 +1000 (EST) Cc: Krassimir Slavchev , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org +----[ John Saunders ]--------------------------------------------- | In nlc.lists.freebsd-isp you wrote: | > We plan to migrate from Linux to FreeBSD, and have some users with dot | > in its username's. | > I tried to add new user with a dot in its username, but adduser accepts | > only [a-z0-9_-]. | > Is there any reasons this to be not allowed? | | Suppose the username is fred.smith and the account is in a group called | customers. So you want to fix up the ownership permissions on his | directory when he mucks it up be playing around one day. | | # chown -R fred.smith.customers ~fred.smith | | Chown cannot determine which '.' seperates the username from the group. | That is about the only problem I came across when (briefly) allowing | usernames with a '.' in them. Mainly the automated scripts bit me. '.' is a deprecated seperator for chown. ':' is now the preferred item... COMPATIBILITY Previous versions of the chown utility used the dot (``.'') character to distinguish the group name. This has been changed to be a colon (``:'') character so that user and group names may contain the dot character. '.' should probably be allowed in adduser -- Totally Holistic Enterprises Internet| P:+61 7 3870 0066 | Andrew Milton The Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd | F:+61 7 3870 4477 | ACN: 082 081 472 | M:+61 416 022 411 | Carpe Daemon PO Box 837 Indooroopilly QLD 4068 |akm@theinternet.com.au| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 29 19: 7:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from inc.net (mailhost.inc.net [204.95.160.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC5D37BD65 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:07:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@inc.net) Received: from inc.net (ess.phreak.net [207.250.97.69]) by inc.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA00844; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 21:06:38 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <38BC8940.6B24A444@inc.net> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 21:06:40 -0600 From: Steve Kaczkowski Organization: Time Warner Telecom Internet & Data Division X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh,zh-CN,zh-TW,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Rheaume Cc: Mark Holloway , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OC3 versus T1 Circuits References: <200002291838.NAA29138@etinc.com> <38BC7C9B.D6CD19AB@2ghz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Adam Rheaume wrote: > > If they are all going to be pure ansi and only 60 concurrent connections > running at lets say 38400 a full T1 would be fine. With OE and maybe > some web/file stuff to be safe I would say a bonded 2 T1's would be > perfect. Maybe overkill also.. What per K will each user pull that is > the question also will they all use it at the same time. Think like a > ISP, when there are dial in users there is never enough for the whole > cust base to dial in at once it is based on a percentage. > Thing is in the computer and networking world can you EVER have too much? I mean it's not like you or your users are going to complain if it's TOO fast, right? Bottom line is that you have to look at the dollars and see how much you can spend, if you have the money to do it, GO for it! By going the OC3 route you've got LOTS and LOTS of room for expansion because it will happen sooner or later and by doing it right the first time there is less need for forklift upgrades.. Just my $.02 -- Steve Kaczkowski Time Warner Telecom IDD steve@inc.net (414)908-9012 http://www.inc.net (603)737-9209 Fax To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 29 19:15:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from nhj.nlc.net.au (nhj.nlc.net.au [203.24.133.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0487B37B847 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:15:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john@nlc.net.au) Received: (qmail 16876 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2000 14:15:37 +1100 Received: from nhj.nlc.net.au (HELO vecomm3) (203.24.133.1) by nhj.nlc.net.au with SMTP; 1 Mar 2000 14:15:37 +1100 Message-ID: <018901bf832c$43ae9da0$4ab511cb@scitec.com.au> From: "John Saunders" To: "Andrew Kenneth Milton" Cc: "Krassimir Slavchev" , References: <200003010237.MAA56681@mail.theinternet.com.au> Subject: Re: adduser? Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:14:30 +1100 Organization: NORTHLINK COMMUNICATIONS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > '.' is a deprecated seperator for chown. ':' is now the preferred item... > > COMPATIBILITY > Previous versions of the chown utility used the dot (``.'') character to > distinguish the group name. This has been changed to be a colon (``:'') > character so that user and group names may contain the dot character. > > '.' should probably be allowed in adduser I quick look at the source code for chown verifies that if a ':' is used then chown doesn't even look for a '.' and hence names with dots should be safe. Just remember to update any legacy admin scripts that you have before starting to allow dots in your usernames. -- +------------------------------------------------------------+ . | John Saunders - mailto:john@nlc.net.au (EMail) | ,--_|\ | - http://www.nlc.net.au/ (WWW) | / Oz \ | - 02-9489-4932 or 041-822-3814 (Phone) | \_,--\_/ | NORTHLINK COMMUNICATIONS P/L - Supplying a professional, | v | and above all friendly, internet connection service. | +------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 29 22:46:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090B237BE78 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:46:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12Q2rK-0001dH-00; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:43:46 -0800 Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:43:45 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Mark Holloway Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OC3 versus T1 Circuits In-Reply-To: <002001bf82d5$7f5a6a20$a52410ac@sierrahealth.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Mark Holloway wrote: > applications. Until late 1999 they were running these applications in > a client/server fashion. The ten sites are all on a shared FDDI ring, > but each location is a 10MB, shared, half duplex connection. The > original strategy was to have a full OC3 from the main campus going to > a Sprint Central Office, then have 10MB fractional OC3 going to each > site (almost like Frame Relay in the MAN). However, we have since > setup many Windows Terminal Servers (25 servers @ 200 clients per > server) and the clients are using Citrix on their local desktops. > This solution works well. But now I am wondering if the fractional > OC3 is overkill?? I was thinking maybe either a T1 line or two T1 > lines bonded for EACH SITE rather than a 10MB OC3 for each site would > be more realistic? Is a T1 really .15 MB? Or 1.5MB? I think the ... A T1 is 1.536mbs (MB/s != mbs). I would suggest that you should monitor the traffic utlization over the network and see whether dual-T1s are reasonable for your applications. No one can recommend one solution or another for your use without looking at you traffic. Since all the servers and clients seem to be running right now, just watch it. In fact, I'm astonished that anyone would put a network in without quantifing the throughput requirements of each site and the users at the site. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 29 22:49:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A8737BF29 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:49:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12Q2tC-0001dV-00; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:45:42 -0800 Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:45:38 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: John Saunders Cc: Krassimir Slavchev , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: adduser? In-Reply-To: <20000229214923.8536.qmail@nhj.nlc.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1 Mar 2000, John Saunders wrote: > In nlc.lists.freebsd-isp you wrote: > > We plan to migrate from Linux to FreeBSD, and have some users with dot > > in its username's. > > I tried to add new user with a dot in its username, but adduser accepts > > only [a-z0-9_-]. > > Is there any reasons this to be not allowed? > > Suppose the username is fred.smith and the account is in a group called > customers. So you want to fix up the ownership permissions on his > directory when he mucks it up be playing around one day. > > # chown -R fred.smith.customers ~fred.smith > > Chown cannot determine which '.' seperates the username from the group. > That is about the only problem I came across when (briefly) allowing > usernames with a '.' in them. Mainly the automated scripts bit me. Actually, ":" is a supported separator for chown as well. > -- +------------------------------------------------------------+ > . | John Saunders - mailto:john@nlc.net.au (EMail) | > ,--_|\ | - http://www.nlc.net.au/ (WWW) | > / Oz \ | - 02-9489-4932 or 04-1822-3814 (Phone) | > \_,--\_/ | NORTHLINK COMMUNICATIONS P/L - Supplying a professional, | > v | and above all friendly, internet connection service. | > +------------------------------------------------------------+ Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 1 5:59: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.morelr.com (ns1.morelr.com [206.240.28.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B6D37C256 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 05:59:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rmorel@morelr.com) Received: from mr3 (mr3.morelr.com [206.240.29.3]) by ns1.morelr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA10870 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:58:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rmorel@morelr.com) Message-Id: <2.2.32.20000301135850.0068f878@mail.morelr.com> X-Sender: rmorel@mail.morelr.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 07:58:50 -0600 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Rick Morel Subject: Root File System Full Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Suddenly the root file system shows at 101% on one machine I administer. Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0a 31743 29501 -297 101% / There's nothing shown in there to account for it. I know there must be some kind of "hidden" files because it always shows more with df, but... A search of the big FreeBSD book and on the web has been fruitless. Anyone know what I can do to take care of this? BTW, I do have /tmp moved and set as a symbolic link on all my machines. Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 1 6:14: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from naiad.eclipse.net.uk (naiad.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4C337C247 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 06:13:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sthen@naiad.eclipse.net.uk) Received: by naiad.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix, from userid 475) id DF24914269; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 14:13:50 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:13:50 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson To: Rick Morel Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Root File System Full Message-ID: <20000301141350.M82538@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> References: <2.2.32.20000301135850.0068f878@mail.morelr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.2i In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.20000301135850.0068f878@mail.morelr.com>; from rmorel@morelr.com on Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 07:58:50AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 07:58:50AM -0600, Rick Morel wrote: > Suddenly the root file system shows at 101% on one machine I administer. > > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/wd0a 31743 29501 -297 101% / > > There's nothing shown in there to account for it. I know there must be some > kind of "hidden" files because it always shows more with df, but... A search > of the big FreeBSD book and on the web has been fruitless. A process probably has a file open which it has since unlinked. The file won't show in directory listings but is using space until the process closes it. > Anyone know what I can do to take care of this? BTW, I do have /tmp moved > and set as a symbolic link on all my machines. lsof (in ports/packages) is a useful tool to determine which processes have open files (network connections, streams and so on as well as ordinary files). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 1 6:22:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.morelr.com (ns1.morelr.com [206.240.28.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1FE037BD22 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 06:22:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rmorel@morelr.com) Received: from mr3 (mr3.morelr.com [206.240.29.3]) by ns1.morelr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA11719 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 08:22:41 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rmorel@morelr.com) Message-Id: <2.2.32.20000301142236.006a3810@mail.morelr.com> X-Sender: rmorel@mail.morelr.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 08:22:36 -0600 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Rick Morel Subject: Re: Root File System Full Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Many thanks to Phil Allsopp and wellsian for super rapid replies. I feel like an idiot. I did it to myself. I forgot that /etc is really under /. Duh, I knew that. My only excuse is this has been a week of MONDAYS. Really; seems everything that can go wrong has, and all at the same time. I know, every day is like that :-) We had a problem with a vacation setup from another domain going wild and sending tens of thousands of emails in a loop. Anyway, while checking the previous days maillog, I didn't notice where I was and copied it to a directory under /etc. Man oh man, I shot my ownself in the foot. Deleted the big file and all is now well with the world. Again, many thanks for getting my brain out of its endless loop and working right again! Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 1 6:43: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from naiad.eclipse.net.uk (naiad.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1680137C334 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 06:42:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sthen@naiad.eclipse.net.uk) Received: by naiad.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix, from userid 475) id 02C4D1482F; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 14:42:55 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:42:55 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson To: Rick Morel Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Root File System Full Message-ID: <20000301144255.Q82538@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> References: <2.2.32.20000301142236.006a3810@mail.morelr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.2i In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.20000301142236.006a3810@mail.morelr.com>; from rmorel@morelr.com on Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 08:22:36AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 08:22:36AM -0600, Rick Morel wrote: > Many thanks to Phil Allsopp and wellsian > for super rapid replies. > > I forgot that /etc is really under /. You might consider moving and symlinking it to a different partition. From someone that learned the hard way some time ago, you probably don't want to do that :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 1 8:52:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from stimpy.sasknow.com (h139-142-245-100.ss.fiberone.net [139.142.245.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F6837C3A6 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 08:52:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by stimpy.sasknow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00743; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:52:46 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:52:46 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: Stuart Henderson Cc: Rick Morel , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Root File System Full In-Reply-To: <20000301144255.Q82538@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> Message-ID: Organization: SaskNow Technologies [www.sasknow.com] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Stuart Henderson wrote to Rick Morel: > On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 08:22:36AM -0600, Rick Morel wrote: > > Many thanks to Phil Allsopp and wellsian > > for super rapid replies. > > > > I forgot that /etc is really under /. > > You might consider moving and symlinking it to a > different partition. From someone that learned the > hard way some time ago, you probably don't want to > do that :-) /etc to a different partition? That won't work without lots of help. The system needs /etc early in the boot process... Perhaps most importantly for this purpose, fstab lives in /etc... So if /etc is on a different partition, fstab could never be read by the boot process, meaning, the system wouldn't know where to find your other partition. If I trusted the union FS a little more, I guess one COULD kludge things sufficiently to put a minimal set (the RCs, fstab, etc al) in /etc and later union mount another small dedicated partition for /etc... But you really wouldn't gain anything there anyway. I run my production servers with a RO root filesystem, with frequent backups and extensive use of RCS. If changes need to be made to /etc, they are made to the files, verified, then the root filesystem is remounted RW, changes are committed, and / is downgraded to RO once again. I've never had a full root FS, nor have I ever had one corrupt while in production. And, due to the extensive mirroring I do, restoring the root FS would be as simple as booting from floppy, newfs'ing the root filesystem (or reallocating some swap space if the root was too far beyond repair), mounting root and the partition(s) that my mirror lives on, and restoring everything verbatim. Due to my near-complete use of RCS for configuration files, my incremental backups are never stale. -- Ryan Thompson Systems Administrator, Accounts Phone: +1 (306) 664-1161 SaskNow Technologies http://www.sasknow.com #106-380 3120 8th St E Saskatoon, SK S7H 0W2 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 1 9:15:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sstar.com (sstar.com [209.102.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6462137C431 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:15:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from king@sstar.com) Received: from JKING ([134.132.75.164]) by sstar.com with ESMTP (IPAD 2.52) id 1622100; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 11:15:03 -0600 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000301111254.00a5f068@mail.sstar.com> X-Sender: king@mail.sstar.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 11:15:03 -0600 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Jim King Subject: dhcpd through a relay Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'd like to configure dhcpd to use one address pool for the local LAN, and use a second address pool for a subnet behind a router. The router will act as a DHCP relay. What do I have to do to get dhcpd to recognize that the request is coming via a relay and should come from the second address pool? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 1 9:30:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from stimpy.sasknow.com (h139-142-245-100.ss.fiberone.net [139.142.245.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF68537C5A4 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:30:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by stimpy.sasknow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01106; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 11:30:14 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 11:30:14 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: Stuart Henderson Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root File System Full In-Reply-To: <20000301171701.Z82538@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> Message-ID: Organization: SaskNow Technologies [www.sasknow.com] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Stuart Henderson wrote to Ryan Thompson: > On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 10:52:46AM -0600, Ryan Thompson wrote: > > Stuart Henderson wrote to Rick Morel: > > > > > On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 08:22:36AM -0600, Rick Morel wrote: > > > > Many thanks to Phil Allsopp and wellsian > > > > for super rapid replies. > > > > > > > > I forgot that /etc is really under /. > > > > > > You might consider moving and symlinking it to a > > > different partition. From someone that learned the > > > hard way some time ago, you probably don't want to > > > do that :-) > > > > /etc to a different partition? That won't work without lots of help. > > exactly the point I was making - someone in a panic for > disk space might not think of it and do something baaaaadddd :-) > Ahh... Then I DID misunderstand the point you were trying to make; I thought I might have. I decided, though, that if I couldn't make perfect sense out of what you said, some others probably wouldn't, as well. Thus, I posted my own dissertation on the topic for the benefit of the split-brain thinkers among us :-) -- Ryan Thompson Systems Administrator, Accounts Phone: +1 (306) 664-1161 SaskNow Technologies http://www.sasknow.com #106-380 3120 8th St E Saskatoon, SK S7H 0W2 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 1 9:36:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from naiad.eclipse.net.uk (naiad.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C276C37C50F for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:36:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sthen@naiad.eclipse.net.uk) Received: by naiad.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix, from userid 475) id AE290144E2; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:36:13 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:36:13 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson To: Ryan Thompson Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root File System Full Message-ID: <20000301173613.A82538@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> References: <20000301171701.Z82538@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from ryan@sasknow.com on Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 11:30:14AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 11:30:14AM -0600, Ryan Thompson wrote: > Stuart Henderson wrote to Ryan Thompson: > > > On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 10:52:46AM -0600, Ryan Thompson wrote: > > > Stuart Henderson wrote to Rick Morel: > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 08:22:36AM -0600, Rick Morel wrote: > > > > > Many thanks to Phil Allsopp and wellsian > > > > > for super rapid replies. > > > > > > > > > > I forgot that /etc is really under /. > > > > > > > > You might consider moving and symlinking it to a > > > > different partition. From someone that learned the > > > > hard way some time ago, you probably don't want to > > > > do that :-) > > > > > > /etc to a different partition? That won't work without lots of help. > > > > exactly the point I was making - someone in a panic for > > disk space might not think of it and do something baaaaadddd :-) > > > > Ahh... Then I DID misunderstand the point you were trying to make; I > thought I might have. I decided, though, that if I couldn't make perfect > sense out of what you said, some others probably wouldn't, as well. I'm like that sometimes...usually when I'm tired :) Best wishes Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 1 10:52:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from unix.megared.net.mx (megamail.megared.com.mx [207.249.162.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6DD37BBC1 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:52:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ales@megared.net.mx) Received: from ales (ales.megared.net.mx [207.249.163.241]) by unix.megared.net.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA13534; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:53:14 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ales@megared.net.mx) Message-ID: <05d401bf83af$4b0fb7e0$020a0a0a@megared.net.mx> From: "Alejandro Ramirez" To: "Jim King" Cc: References: <4.2.0.58.20000301111254.00a5f068@mail.sstar.com> <4.2.0.58.20000301123455.00a5e4c0@mail.sstar.com> Subject: RE: dhcpd through a relay Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:52:28 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, > How does the DHCP server know what subnet the request is coming from? Is > that something that the DHCP relay sticks into the packet header or > something? (I guess I should go read the RFC.) Well here its a brief description of the dhcp proccess involving a dhcp relay agent, the dhcp relay agent receives broadcast packages of dhcp requests from the clients, as you know routers dont pass broadcasts packages betwen interfaces, so they got encapsulated into unicast packages and they are directed to an specific host, this hosts doesnt receive broadcasts, just unicasts and answer them with broadcasts, the relay agent receive this broadcasts and send them to the client as unicast, and so on until completes the dhcp transaccions, so the server just receives unicast from 1 ip address, and like I told you it just have to have the spool in the same subnet that the relay agent ip address is sending packets from, and everything should work. P.S. Alway copy to the list, because someone can give you better advises than I do. Greetings... Ales To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 1 12:27:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.alpha.net.au (mail2.alpha.net.au [203.41.44.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9F737BA61 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:27:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dannyh@idx.com.au) Received: from freebsd.freebsd.org (surry-pool-196.alpha.net.au [203.41.44.196] (may be forged)) by mail.alpha.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA18938; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 07:27:43 +1100 From: Danny To: Rick Morel , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Root File System Full Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 07:27:26 +1100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain References: <2.2.32.20000301135850.0068f878@mail.morelr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00030307291300.00332@freebsd.freebsd.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Have you ever looked at pine -f /var/mail/root/ to see if you get any huge emails? Hope that helps. dannyh On Thu, 02 Mar 2000, Rick Morel wrote: > Suddenly the root file system shows at 101% on one machine I administer. > > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/wd0a 31743 29501 -297 101% / > > There's nothing shown in there to account for it. I know there must be some > kind of "hidden" files because it always shows more with df, but... A search > of the big FreeBSD book and on the web has been fruitless. > > Anyone know what I can do to take care of this? BTW, I do have /tmp moved > and set as a symbolic link on all my machines. > > Rick > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 2 6:21:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from apollo2.waverider.net.uk (apollo2.waverider.net.uk [194.207.158.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBC937C463 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 06:21:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andyc@waverider.net.uk) Received: from bugs (bugs.office.waverider.net.uk [212.105.191.50]) by apollo2.waverider.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA25860 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:21:00 GMT From: "Andy Cowan" To: Subject: Netgraph & 'Fake' interfaces Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:21:19 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm new to netgrpah and having a bit of a problem - I would like to set up some 'fake' interfaces - basically just creating the same effect as an ifconfig alias, but with a network interface (like ng0) associted with each alias - this way I can monitor the traffic through each fake interface with SNMP. I'm trying ngctl mkpeer rl0: iface inet inet - but it doesn't like it. Does anyone know the right way to do this? Cheers, Andy -- Andy Cowan Wave Rider Internet Ltd http://www.waverider.net.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 2 11:13:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ux.accesscom.net (ux.accesscom.net [204.181.176.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 522BE37B522 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:13:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mlistbsd@icorp.net) Received: from unknown(204.181.188.140) by ux(smtpd 2.1.2) with SMTP id smtp009050; Thu, 2 Mar 00 12:19:12 -0600 Message-ID: <38BEB02E.C80ED801@icorp.net> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 12:17:18 -0600 From: James Reply-To: james@icorp.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Stuart Henderson Cc: Rick Morel , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Root File System Full References: <2.2.32.20000301142236.006a3810@mail.morelr.com> <20000301144255.Q82538@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> Content-Length: 846 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Stuart Henderson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 08:22:36AM -0600, Rick Morel wrote: > > Many thanks to Phil Allsopp and wellsian > > for super rapid replies. > > > > I forgot that /etc is really under /. > > You might consider moving and symlinking it to a > different partition. From someone that learned the > hard way some time ago, you probably don't want to > do that :-) Doh! I tried that when I first got into Unix. Big mistake. The partitions wouldn't mount because /etc/fstab was moved to a secondary partition and couldn't be found during the boot process! It was loads of fun trying to fix.. Whenever I notice that disk space is getting tight, I run: find / -size +5000000c -print -ls this gives me a list of any file 5MB or larger - often helps to track down balooning files. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 2 22:22:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from super-g.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407C537B57D for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:22:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: by super-g.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5A7F3B417; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 01:22:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F199B416; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 01:22:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 01:22:11 -0500 (EST) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: Eddie - EAZNet Internet Services Cc: FreeBSD ISP Mailing List Subject: Re: ATM DS3 In-Reply-To: <38BABA13.2CFAA57A@eaznet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Not sure about the FreeBSD solution, but I can dig up some used Cisco vendors that can set you up with a 72xx and DS3 ATM for under $15K, possibly less depending on what other interfaces you're looking for. While I understand you're looking for the FBSD solution, the 7200 series actually have a decent bang/$ ratio, and the time saved may pay for the extra $$. Charles --- Charles Sprickman spork@super-g.com --- On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, Eddie - EAZNet Internet Services wrote: > Is there a way to use a FreeBSD box to handle a 6MB DS3 over ATM? It > wouldn't even have to do routing or anything. Just be able to break out > the channel and feed it into a routers HSSI port. > > Any ideas? suggestions? I don't like the idea of spending $20k+ for a > Cisco 7200 to do this... > > -- > Eddie Fry > eddie@eaznet.com > EAZNet Internet Services > 220 West 7th Street > Safford, AZ 85546 > (520) 348-0292 > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 3 4:46:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.areti.net (meteora.areti.com [193.118.189.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA2D37B580 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 04:46:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ndear@areti.net) Received: from acropolis (ndear@acropolis.noc.areti.net [193.118.189.102]) by post.mail.areti.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Areti-2.0.0) with ESMTP id MAA01071 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 12:46:11 GMT From: "Nicholas J. Dear" Organization: Areti Internet Ltd. To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 12:43:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Weird error messages on screen Reply-To: ndear@areti.net Message-ID: <38BFB367.9523.7DC07C9@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Everytime someone telnets in and logs in, I get the following error on the console screen: machine_name login: no modules loaded for 'login' service machine_name login: auth_pam: Permission denied It doesn't seem to have any affect on the system, apart from the messages being irritating. Why are they being generated and how can I stop it? Running FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE. TIA. N. Many thanks, N. -- Nicholas J. Dear Mail: ndear@areti.net Tel: +44 (0)20-8402-4041 Areti Internet Ltd., http://www.areti.co.uk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 3 4:56:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rowdy.panther.net (rowdy.panther.net [209.197.223.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C6837B560 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 04:56:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kward@panther.net) Received: from localhost (1626 bytes) by rowdy.panther.net via sendmail with P:stdio/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 06:57:22 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.111 2000-Feb-17 #2 built 2000-Feb-26) Message-Id: From: kward@panther.net (Keith Ward) Subject: Configuration help for Apache [off-topic] To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 06:57:22 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL69 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, First, sorry for posting this slightly off-topic message here. I do so only since this may be the place where I saw the lost reference (searched the archives but no luck), and my monitor now has a dent from my head-banging. What I am in search of is reference to a url which I saw on a fairly recient posting (somewhere, maybe within the past month), which was explaining the configuration steps used to have Apache send gzipped files as unzipped, text/html content when requested by the client. What I've got is a directory hierarchy full of text documents which have been gzipped (.gz). Prior to being zipped, they are indexed, and the directories are also accessable directly. What I want to do is when someone clicks on, say... http://some.where.com/mydocs/topic1/part1.gz That my server (Apache 1.3.12) will ungzip the file and send with a text/html (or text/plain) content type so the content is then displayed as plain text in the client browser. Thanks is advance, Keith -- Keith Ward N5OOD kward@Panther.net ...!rwsys!rowdy!kward =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 3 5:17: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dominik.saargate.de (ich.mag.frau.trapp.nonsensss.de [212.88.133.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120AE37B579 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 05:16:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from domi@saargate.de) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dominik.saargate.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA91667; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 14:15:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from domi@saargate.de) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 14:15:27 +0100 (CET) From: Dominik Brettnacher To: "ndear@areti.net" Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Weird error messages on screen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, ndear@areti.net wrote: > Everytime someone telnets in and logs in, I get the following error on the > console screen: > > machine_name login: no modules loaded for 'login' service > machine_name login: auth_pam: Permission denied What does your /etc/pam.conf look like? -- Dominik - http://www.saargate.de/~domi/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 3 5:36:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsd.amplex.net (bsd.amplex.net [209.57.124.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DAA37B56B for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 05:36:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@amplex.net) Received: from server2 (server3.amplex.net [209.57.124.13]) by bsd.amplex.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA04691 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:36:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200003031336.IAA04691@bsd.amplex.net> From: "Mark Radabaugh - Amplex" To: Subject: Fixit Image Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:36:33 -0500 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone have a copy of the 3.3-Stable fixit image they could send me? It doesn't seem to exist on the ftp sites anymore... Mark Radabaugh Amplex (419)833-3635 mark@amplex.net Mark Radabaugh Amplex (419)833-3635 mark@amplex.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 3 6:25:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F1837B5BD for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 06:25:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: from thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10250; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:24:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38BFCB35.62D9B54@thehousleys.net> Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 09:24:53 -0500 From: James Housley Organization: The Housleys dot Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Keith Ward , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Configuration help for Apache [off-topic] References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Keith Ward wrote: > > Hello, > > First, sorry for posting this slightly off-topic message here. I do > so only since this may be the place where I saw the lost reference > (searched the archives but no luck), and my monitor now has a dent > from my head-banging. > > What I am in search of is reference to a url which I saw on a fairly > recient posting (somewhere, maybe within the past month), which was > explaining the configuration steps used to have Apache send gzipped > files as unzipped, text/html content when requested by the client. > > What I've got is a directory hierarchy full of text documents which > have been gzipped (.gz). Prior to being zipped, they are indexed, > and the directories are also accessable directly. What I want to > do is when someone clicks on, say... > > http://some.where.com/mydocs/topic1/part1.gz > > That my server (Apache 1.3.12) will ungzip the file and send with > a text/html (or text/plain) content type so the content is then > displayed as plain text in the client browser. > Not a problem. Mine is doing that by default (http://rfc.thehousleys.net). I believe the following will do it # # AddEncoding allows you to have certain browsers (Mosaic/X 2.1+) uncompress # information on the fly. Note: Not all browsers support this. # Despite the name similarity, the following Add* directives have nothing # to do with the FancyIndexing customization directives above. # AddEncoding x-compress Z AddEncoding x-gzip gz tgz This is an excertp from the latest apache+php+mod_ssl-1.3.12+3.0.15+2.6.1 w/mod_auth_mysql-2.20 Jim -- Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 4 7:24:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.island.net.au (mail.island.net.au [203.28.142.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA3237B7DC for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 07:24:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hugh@mail.island.net.au) Received: from localhost (hugh@localhost) by mail.island.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA28263 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 02:24:30 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 02:24:30 +1100 (EST) From: Hugh Blandford To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Restricting Access to IMAP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I was wondering if there was a way to make some users access their mail by POP3 yet allow others access to their mail by IMAP? Is there a way to setup Sendmail, Cyrus etc so that if there is a valid user account by not a Cyrus mailbox the usercould fetch their mail via a non-Cyrus POP3 server? There is TCP Wrappers and the source IP but it wouldn't do for the normal dialup market. Thanks, Hugh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 4 7:52:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.areti.net (meteora.areti.com [193.118.189.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9303037B7DC for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 07:52:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ndear@areti.net) Received: from acropolis (ndear@acropolis.noc.areti.net [193.118.189.102]) by post.mail.areti.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Areti-2.0.0) with ESMTP id PAA02418; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 15:52:41 GMT From: "Nicholas J. Dear" Organization: Areti Internet Ltd. To: domi@saargate.de Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 15:51:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Weird error messages on screen Reply-To: ndear@areti.net Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <38C130EE.29127.5120B6C@localhost> References: In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 3 Mar 2000, at 14:15, Dominik Brettnacher wrote: > On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, ndear@areti.net wrote: > > > Everytime someone telnets in and logs in, I get the following error on the > > console screen: > > > > machine_name login: no modules loaded for 'login' service > > machine_name login: auth_pam: Permission denied > > What does your /etc/pam.conf look like? It's blank/empty. N. -- Nicholas J. Dear Mail: ndear@areti.net Tel: +44 (0)20-8402-4041 Areti Internet Ltd., http://www.areti.co.uk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 4 11:24:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [209.224.254.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 488D337B864 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 11:24:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [209.224.254.141]) by mail.westbend.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA83484; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 13:24:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <005c01bf860f$3bc10480$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Hugh Blandford" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Restricting Access to IMAP Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 13:24:16 -0600 Organization: West Bend Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.3825.400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.3825.400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: "Hugh Blandford" > I was wondering if there was a way to make some users access their mail by > POP3 yet allow others access to their mail by IMAP? > > Is there a way to setup Sendmail, Cyrus etc so that if there is a valid > user account by not a Cyrus mailbox the usercould fetch their mail via a > non-Cyrus POP3 server? I use the following in my sendmail.mc file: MAILER(local)dnl MAILER(smtp)dnl define(`CYRUS_MAILER_FLAGS',`SA5@|:/')dnl define(`CYRUS_MAILER_PATH',`/usr/local/cyrus/bin/deliver')dnl define(`CYRUS_MAILER_ARGS',`deliver -e -m $h -- $u')dnl define(`CYRUS_MAILER_MAX',`eval(5*1024*1024)')dnl define(`CYRUS_MAILER_USER',`cyrus:cyrus')dnl define(`CYRUS_BB_MAILER_FLAGS',`S')dnl define(`CYRUS_BB_MAILER_ARGS',`deliver -e -m $u')dnl MAILER(cyrus)dnl define(`confLOCAL_MAILER',`cyrus')dnl LOCAL_RULE_0 R$=N $: $#local $: $1 R$=N < @ $=w . > $: $#local $: $1 Rbb + $+ < @ $=w . > $#cyrusbb $: $1 LOCAL_CONFIG FN /etc/mail/sendmail.cN In sendmail.cN you put the list of users that you don't want sendmail to send to the Cyrus deliver program. Do you currently use the Cyrus POP3 server? If you do, then you will need to set up the non-Cyrus POP3 server and the Mail Clients to use an alternate port. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 4 14:43:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (ftp.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF07A37B8C6 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 14:43:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zeus@tetronsoftware.com) Received: from tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (tetron02.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.106]) by tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08075; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 16:43:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from zeus@tetronsoftware.com) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 16:43:17 -0600 (CST) From: Gene Harris To: "Nicholas J. Dear" Cc: domi@saargate.de, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Weird error messages on screen In-Reply-To: <38C130EE.29127.5120B6C@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 4 Mar 2000, Nicholas J. Dear wrote: > On 3 Mar 2000, at 14:15, Dominik Brettnacher wrote: > > > On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, ndear@areti.net wrote: > > > > > Everytime someone telnets in and logs in, I get the following error on the > > > console screen: > > > > > > machine_name login: no modules loaded for 'login' service > > > machine_name login: auth_pam: Permission denied > > > > What does your /etc/pam.conf look like? > > It's blank/empty. > Then you need to copy the original, from the directory /usr/src/etc/pam.conf into /etc and this may solve your problem. Gene [snip] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 4 14:44:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dominik.saargate.de (ich.mag.frau.trapp.nonsensss.de [212.88.133.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED8D37B898 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 14:44:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from domi@saargate.de) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dominik.saargate.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA09712; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 23:24:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from domi@saargate.de) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 23:24:15 +0100 (CET) From: Dominik Brettnacher To: "ndear@areti.net" Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Weird error messages on screen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 4 Mar 2000, ndear@areti.net wrote: > >> > Everytime someone telnets in and logs in, I get the following error > >on the > >> > console screen: > >> > machine_name login: no modules loaded for 'login' service > >> > machine_name login: auth_pam: Permission denied > >> What does your /etc/pam.conf look like? > It's blank/empty. Maybe you should create one like this (you can find it at /usr/src/etc/pam.conf): # Configuration file for Pluggable Authentication Modules (PAM). # # This file controls the authentication methods that login and other # utilities use. See pam(8) for a description of its format. # # Note: the final entry must say "required" -- otherwise, things don't # work quite right. If you delete the final entry, be sure to change # "sufficient" to "required" in the entry before it. # # $FreeBSD: /ctm/FreeBSD/anoncvs/cvs/src/etc/pam.conf,v 1.1.2.1 2000/01/06 13:57:58 markm Exp $ # If the user can authenticate with S/Key, that's sufficient; allow clear # password. Try kerberos, then try plain unix password. login auth sufficient pam_skey.so login auth requisite pam_cleartext_pass_ok.so #login auth sufficient pam_kerberosIV.so try_first_pass login auth required pam_unix.so try_first_pass # r-utils are broken; ensure this doesn't bother folk rshd auth sufficient pam_deny.so # Don't break startx xserver auth required pam_permit.so # XDM is difficult; it fails or moans unless there are modules for each # of the four management groups; auth, account, session and password. xdm auth required pam_unix.so #xdm auth sufficient pam_kerberosIV.so try_first_pass xdm account required pam_unix.so try_first_pass xdm session required pam_deny.so xdm password required pam_deny.so # If we don't match anything else, default to using getpwnam(). other auth required pam_unix.so try_first_pass other account required pam_unix.so try_first_pass -- Dominik - http://www.saargate.de/~domi/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message