From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 19 8:25:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.surfamerica.net (mail.surfamerica.net [63.65.219.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C3E537B554 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 08:25:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin@surfamerica.net) Received: (qmail 29892 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2000 22:22:52 -0000 Received: from www.surfamerica.net (HELO surfamerica.net) (63.65.219.66) by mail.mail.surfamerica.net with SMTP; 19 Mar 2000 22:22:52 -0000 Message-ID: <38D4FF2B.B11F1F46@surfamerica.net> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 10:24:11 -0600 From: Paul Rice Organization: SurfAmerica Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: pppoe server questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, I'm moving from linux to freebsd to improve functionablity with our new wireless internet product. I'd like to have freebsd work as a pppoe server for this product. Anyone have an idea on how to do this, or advice from successful implamentation. Thanks, Paul SurfAmerica Internet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 19 9: 9:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from lily.ezo.net (lily.ezo.net [206.102.130.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF50B37B6E0 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 09:09:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jflowers@ezo.net) Received: from lily.ezo.net (jflowers@localhost.ezo.net [127.0.0.1]) by lily.ezo.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA27908; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 12:09:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 12:09:30 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Flowers To: Paul Rice Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pppoe server questions In-Reply-To: <38D4FF2B.B11F1F46@surfamerica.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Whose hardware are you using for the radio link? Jim Flowers #4 ISP on C|NET, #1 in Ohio On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, Paul Rice wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm moving from linux to freebsd to improve functionablity with our new > wireless internet product. I'd like to have freebsd work as a pppoe > server for this product. > > Anyone have an idea on how to do this, or advice from successful > implamentation. > > Thanks, > Paul > SurfAmerica Internet > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 19 11:43:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (tun.AwfulHak.org [194.242.139.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 750D637BD4D for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 11:43:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15970; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 19:39:15 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA20710; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 19:39:05 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200003191939.TAA20710@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Paul Rice Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org Subject: Re: pppoe server questions In-Reply-To: Message from Paul Rice of "Sun, 19 Mar 2000 10:24:11 CST." <38D4FF2B.B11F1F46@surfamerica.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 19:39:05 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi folks, > > I'm moving from linux to freebsd to improve functionablity with our new > wireless internet product. I'd like to have freebsd work as a pppoe > server for this product. > > Anyone have an idea on how to do this, or advice from successful > implamentation. man pppoed for the software side. > Thanks, > Paul > SurfAmerica Internet -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 19 12:37: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from krell.webweaver.net (krell.webweaver.net [206.24.105.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C0F37B6C6; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 12:36:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nicole@unixgirl.com) Received: from xwin.nmhtech.com (xwin.nmhtech.com [208.138.46.10]) by krell.webweaver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A6020F04; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 11:47:18 -0800 (PST) Content-Length: 2499 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3.1 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 12:36:54 -0800 (PST) From: "Nicole Harrington." To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: NFS disconnecting - HELP Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings all I have two servers running FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE connected via NFS via independedent Intel pro 10/100 Nic cards (using a 10.0.0.1 type of network) and an intel switch. The directory structure is rather large but the traffic should not be that heavy. I was rather suprised to start seeing the disconnection notices below. I have had similar problem with NFS locking up on large/deep directories, however I was able to correct it by lowing the mount MTU to 1250 which didn't seem to make any difference on this system. Any advice on what to try would be greatly appreciatted! Please CC me in response. Thanks! Nicole Mar 17 15:52:11 www /kernel: nfs server pi.p.com:/home/web/WWW: not responding Mar 17 15:52:12 www /kernel: nfs server pi.p.com:/home/web/WWW: is alive again Mar 17 15:52:16 www /kernel: nfs server pi.p.com:/home/web/WWW: not responding Mar 17 15:52:16 www /kernel: nfs server pi.p.com:/home/web/WWW: is alive again Mar 17 15:52:54 www /kernel: nfs server pi.p.com:/home/web/WWW: not responding Mar 17 15:52:54 www /kernel: nfs server pi.p.com:/home/web/WWW: is alive again Mar 17 15:56:20 www /kernel: nfs server pi.p.com:/home/web/WWW: not responding Mar 17 15:56:20 www /kernel: nfs server pi.p.com:/home/web/WWW: is alive again Mar 17 16:03:48 www /kernel: nfs server pi.p.com:/home/web/WWW: not responding Mar 17 16:03:48 www /kernel: nfs server pi.p.com:/home/web/WWW: is alive again Mar 17 16:04:42 www /kernel: nfs server pi.p.com:/home/web/WWW: not responding Mar 17 16:04:43 www /kernel: nfs server pi.p.com:/home/web/WWW: is alive again Mar 17 16:07:59 www /kernel: nfs server pi.p.com:/home/web/WWW: not responding nicole@unixgirl.com |\ __ /| (`\ http://www.unixgirl.com/ webmistress@dangermouse.org | o_o |__ ) ) http://www.dangermouse.org/ // \\ ---------------------------(((---(((----------------------------------------- -- Powered by Coka-Cola and FreeBSD -- -- Stong enough for a man - But made for a Woman -- -- Microsoft: What bug would you like today? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me to advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product. -- OWNED? MS: Who's Been In Your Computer Today? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 19 12:41:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from celery.dragondata.com (celery.dragondata.com [205.253.12.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9061637B5AD; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 12:41:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toasty@celery.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by celery.dragondata.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA26182; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 14:40:55 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from toasty) From: Kevin Day Message-Id: <200003192040.OAA26182@celery.dragondata.com> Subject: Re: NFS disconnecting - HELP To: nicole@unixgirl.com (Nicole Harrington.) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 14:40:55 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Nicole Harrington." at Mar 19, 2000 12:36:54 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > Greetings all > I have two servers running FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE connected via NFS via > independedent Intel pro 10/100 Nic cards (using a 10.0.0.1 type of network) and > an intel switch. The directory structure is rather large but the traffic should > not be that heavy. I was rather suprised to start seeing the disconnection > notices below. > I have had similar problem with NFS locking up on large/deep directories, > however I was able to correct it by lowing the mount MTU to 1250 which didn't > seem to make any difference on this system. > > Any advice on what to try would be greatly appreciatted! > Please CC me in response. > > > Thanks! > > Nicole > > Mar 17 15:52:11 www /kernel: nfs server pi.p.com:/home/web/WWW: not responding > Mar 17 15:52:12 www /kernel: nfs server pi.p.com:/home/web/WWW: is alive again > Mar 17 15:52:16 www /kernel: nfs server pi.p.com:/home/web/WWW: not responding > Mar 17 15:52:16 www /kernel: nfs server pi.p.com:/home/web/WWW: is alive again > Mar 17 15:52:54 www /kernel: nfs server pi.p.com:/home/web/WWW: not responding > Mar 17 15:52:54 www /kernel: nfs server pi.p.com:/home/web/WWW: is alive again > Mar 17 15:56:20 www /kernel: nfs server pi.p.com:/home/web/WWW: not responding > Mar 17 15:56:20 www /kernel: nfs server pi.p.com:/home/web/WWW: is alive again > Mar 17 16:03:48 www /kernel: nfs server pi.p.com:/home/web/WWW: not responding > Mar 17 16:03:48 www /kernel: nfs server pi.p.com:/home/web/WWW: is alive again > Mar 17 16:04:42 www /kernel: nfs server pi.p.com:/home/web/WWW: not responding > Mar 17 16:04:43 www /kernel: nfs server pi.p.com:/home/web/WWW: is alive again > Mar 17 16:07:59 www /kernel: nfs server pi.p.com:/home/web/WWW: not responding Mount the nfs filesystem (on the client side) with the '-d' option. I'm actually working on a fix for this, though. Example: nfs:/home /home nfs rw,-b,-d,noatime 1 1 Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 19 15:34:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.149.48.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2977B37B7EB for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 15:34:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhs@jhs.muc.de) Received: (qmail 26833 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2000 23:40:00 -0000 Received: from jhs.muc.de (193.149.49.84) by slarti.muc.de with SMTP; 19 Mar 2000 23:40:00 -0000 Received: from park.jhs.no_domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jhs.muc.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA31321; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 21:07:03 GMT (envelope-from jhs@park.jhs.no_domain) Message-Id: <200003192107.VAA31321@jhs.muc.de> To: up@3.am Cc: Chip Marshall , FreeBSD ISP List Subject: Re: ISO images redux From: "Julian Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd - Unix & Internet consultancy X-Web: http://www.jhs.muc.de http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 18 Mar 2000 00:22:10 EST." Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 22:07:03 +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I think we're onto the problem here...none of the images will mount. I > even created an image from the 3.2-RELEASE CDROM and it wouldn't mount. > The Toast docs tell you the image files need to be defragged, so I went > and spent another $90 on Norton utilities, defragged, but I still keep > getting Mac OS errors (result code= -29525). - Talk about Toast on Mac is pretty boring for a FreeBSD list ;-) - Can you try the CD burner on a FreeBSD box ? - Wasting money on MS-Exe's is horrible ! Why not use BSD Free Tools: use /usr/ports/*/pib (indexer) or /usr/ports/INDEX to find the standard BSD CD burning tools used by folks who master the FreeBSD CDs. - Why not use FreeBSD-3.4 rather than 3.2 ? (for more & newer ports) - NB FreeBSD-4.0 sources are out, (I'm compilng mine now), CDs will no doubt be announced, if they haven't already. Julian Julian H. Stacey http://www.jhs.muc.de http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 19 15:34:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.149.48.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 56FD937B80B for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 15:34:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhs@jhs.muc.de) Received: (qmail 26818 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2000 23:39:56 -0000 Received: from jhs.muc.de (193.149.49.84) by slarti.muc.de with SMTP; 19 Mar 2000 23:39:56 -0000 Received: from park.jhs.no_domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jhs.muc.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA31338; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 21:11:51 GMT (envelope-from jhs@park.jhs.no_domain) Message-Id: <200003192111.VAA31338@jhs.muc.de> To: Paul Rice Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pppoe server questions From: "Julian Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd - Unix & Internet consultancy X-Web: http://www.jhs.muc.de http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 19 Mar 2000 10:24:11 CST." <38D4FF2B.B11F1F46@surfamerica.net> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 22:11:51 +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Reference: > From: Paul Rice > Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 10:24:11 -0600 > Message-id: <38D4FF2B.B11F1F46@surfamerica.net> Hi, Paul Rice wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm moving from linux to freebsd to improve functionablity with our new > wireless internet product. I'd like to have freebsd work as a pppoe > server for this product. > > Anyone have an idea on how to do this, or advice from successful > implamentation. FWIW 3.4-RELEASE has man pppoed, but 3.3 does not as I recall, I havent used it yet though. Julian Julian H. Stacey http://www.jhs.muc.de http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 19 15:44:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from d016.gold.gellivare.se (comnix.com [195.196.65.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A951537B6D1 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 15:44:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john@veidit.net) Received: (qmail 11768 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2000 23:44:39 -0000 Received: from d212-151-234-226.swipnet.se (HELO veidit.net) (212.151.234.226) by comnix.com with SMTP; 19 Mar 2000 23:44:39 -0000 Message-ID: <38D565B4.713FCAAC@veidit.net> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:41:41 +0100 From: John Angelmo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: sv,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Server URL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi I have successfully put up a FBSD 3.4-STABLE pppoe sever :-) thanks all here for the help :-) I know that the NTS client has a "recive server URL" function and I would like to know if there is some way to implent this in my FBSD server? /John john@telia.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 19 19: 7:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from richard2.pil.net (richard2.pil.net [207.8.164.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D015137B89C for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 19:07:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from up@3.am) Received: (qmail 35759 invoked by uid 1825); 20 Mar 2000 03:07:08 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Mar 2000 03:07:08 -0000 Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 22:07:08 -0500 (EST) From: X-Sender: up@richard2.pil.net To: Julian Stacey Cc: FreeBSD ISP List Subject: Re: ISO images redux In-Reply-To: <200003192107.VAA31321@jhs.muc.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, Julian Stacey wrote: > > I think we're onto the problem here...none of the images will mount. I > > even created an image from the 3.2-RELEASE CDROM and it wouldn't mount. > > The Toast docs tell you the image files need to be defragged, so I went > > and spent another $90 on Norton utilities, defragged, but I still keep > > getting Mac OS errors (result code= -29525). > > - Talk about Toast on Mac is pretty boring for a FreeBSD list ;-) I know, I know...believe me, this was a last resort. Adaptec support is next to non-existent, and their archives had nothing about creating bootable ISO CD's using Toast USB. > - Can you try the CD burner on a FreeBSD box ? As soon as USB works on FreeBSD (4.0, I hear?) :) > - Wasting money on MS-Exe's is horrible ! Why not use BSD Free Tools: Mac ! = MS > use /usr/ports/*/pib (indexer) or /usr/ports/INDEX to find the standard > BSD CD burning tools used by folks who master the FreeBSD CDs. > - Why not use FreeBSD-3.4 rather than 3.2 ? (for more & newer ports) Chicken-Egg. I was trying to burn a 3.4 CD (I finally succeeded, thanks to help from thislist). I really feel like I need to have a bootable CD around for any OS I'm running on production servers. > - NB FreeBSD-4.0 sources are out, (I'm compilng mine now), CDs will no doubt > be announced, if they haven't already. I pre-ordered one last week. James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 19 20:27:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from frontier.netnology.com.au (frontier.netnology.com.au [203.33.30.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F11D37B882 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 20:27:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craig@hotmix.com.au) Received: from marvin ([203.33.30.209]) by frontier.netnology.com.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA10733 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:10:22 +0800 From: "Craig Beasland" To: Subject: Multihoming Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:20:26 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there, I run a small ISP and now require the ability to multihome. I have read an article that says (using a cisco router) I can add two default routes, with different priorities. I am not sure how this will help me though, because if the primary link goes down, the data can not travel back because the primary link is down - we had this problem before when we were blackholed by a previous ISP's BGP routing tables). So my question is how can I cheaply achieve a redundant link? Cheers craig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 19 22:35:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from enya.clari.net.au (enya.clari.net.au [203.8.14.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB62E37B5C7; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 22:34:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danny@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (danny@localhost) by enya.clari.net.au (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA15048; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:33:15 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from danny@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: enya.clari.net.au: danny owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:33:15 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" X-Sender: danny@enya.clari.net.au To: Joe Abley Cc: Dominic Mitchell , Brian Somers , Nik Clayton , Lee Johnston , freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org, brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ispsetup (was: Re: FreeBSD in Dixons) In-Reply-To: <20000313223154.A31177@patho.gen.nz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Joe Abley wrote: > > I think the existence of a national number is the exception rather than > the rule, although I appreciate things might be a little different in > the UK. > > How about extending your directory structure to: > > .../isp/COUNTRY/REGION/ISP/ > > where COUNTRY is an iso3166 country code, and REGION is either a > string representing a local calling area or some other obvious > country-specific string like "national". Whoa. That's going to lead to a large, deep directory tree, with zillions of little files, one per ISP. What about we consider a file per country, with sections for each ISP. Danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 19 23:32:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from frontier.netnology.com.au (frontier.netnology.com.au [203.33.30.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7819437B6C5 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 23:32:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craig@hotmix.com.au) Received: from marvin ([203.33.30.209]) by frontier.netnology.com.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA15991; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:15:10 +0800 From: "Craig Beasland" To: Cc: "'Michael Hallgren'" Subject: RE: Multihoming Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:25:12 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael, I do have my own portable address space, I cannot apply for an ASN until I am ready to proceed - I guess this is to stop people applying who then do not go ahead with the BGP routing. Does anyone know if a Cisco 2503 will allow me to do BGP, 1 frame link and one BRI. From the docs I've seen it will but it would be nice to have it confirmed. Cheers craig -----Original Message----- From: mh@roam.home.net [mailto:mh@roam.home.net]On Behalf Of Michael Hallgren Sent: Monday, 20 March 2000 15:05 To: Craig Beasland Subject: Re: Multihoming Craig Beasland wrote: Hi there,st Hi, A few questions: Do you have your own IP addresss space (PI) ? Do you have your own ASN ? In general I'd say the way to go would be to speak BGP with your upstreams, but you might also do fairly well with static routes seconded by floaters (depending on how your space is announced by your upstreams ?) Michael I run a small ISP and now require the ability to multihome. I have read an article that says (using a cisco router) I can add two default routes, with different priorities. I am not sure how this will help me though, because if the primary link goes down, the data can not travel back because the primary link is down - we had this problem before when we were blackholed by a previous ISP's BGP routing tables). So my question is how can I cheaply achieve a redundant link? Cheers craig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Michael Hallgren, http://m.hallgren.free.fr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 2: 9: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.kpnqwest.ch (mail.eunet.ch [146.228.10.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56FB737B6C2 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 02:08:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mw@kpnqwest.ch) Received: (from mw@localhost) by mail.kpnqwest.ch (8.9.3/1.34) id KAA18728; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:06:57 GMT env-from (mw@kpnqwest.ch) From: mw@kpnqwest.ch Message-Id: <200003201006.KAA18728@mail.kpnqwest.ch> Subject: Re: Multihoming In-Reply-To: from Craig Beasland at "Mar 20, 2000 12:20:26 pm" To: Craig Beasland Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:06:57 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL72 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > article that says (using a cisco router) I can add two default routes, with > different priorities. I am not sure how this will help me though, because If you have the memory for it, get twice full routing. Using default routes, you'll not detect if one of your ISPs has a partial network outage (but you'd see less routes, and thus route via ISP2 more often). > if the primary link goes down, the data can not travel back because the > primary link is down - we had this problem before when we were blackholed by > a previous ISP's BGP routing tables). This sounds odd. If that ISP is dampening your routes (possibly because they were instable?) they should not announce them to the rest of the world, so the routes announced from ISP2 should take over. If they're deliberately blackholing your routes (like routing them to the Null0 device) and propagating them, I'd change ISPs... To make it short: if your link to them is down, they should not announce any routes related to that link. Period. Markus To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 5: 3:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cliff.i-plus.net (cliff.i-plus.net [209.100.20.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0734D37B525 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 05:03:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from troy@picus.com) Received: from abyss (dhcp-05.dashit.net [209.100.22.254]) by cliff.i-plus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA84308; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 08:03:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Troy Settle" To: "Craig Beasland" , Cc: "'Michael Hallgren'" Subject: RE: Multihoming Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:58:05 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A 2503 will not take a 2 full tables. Plus, you wouldn't want to run a full session over a BRI. First, make sure that your upstream is capable of doing BGP over BRI. I know mine would likely laugh until I cried. Second, ask each of your upstream providers for limited tables. Customer and Peering routes are a good place to start. One trick, that might work for you, is to take *NO* routes from either upstream. Only advertise your own routes via BGP. This will ensure that the rest of the world always has a route back to you (assuming that at least one provider is up :). For your outbound, configure your router to spit packets out of both interfaces. If one goes down, the other will pick up the slack (well, as much as possible anyways :). If you want to do this right, get yourself at least a Cisco 3620 or 3640 (3640 will last longer), and get private line T1s to each of your providers. You won't regret it (though your accountant might kill you over it :) HTH, -- Troy Settle Picus Communications 540.633.6327 ** -----Original Message----- ** From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG ** [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Craig Beasland ** Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 2:25 AM ** To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org ** Cc: 'Michael Hallgren' ** Subject: RE: Multihoming ** ** ** Michael, ** ** I do have my own portable address space, I cannot apply for an ** ASN until I ** am ready to proceed - I guess this is to stop people applying who then do ** not go ahead with the BGP routing. ** ** Does anyone know if a Cisco 2503 will allow me to do BGP, 1 ** frame link and ** one BRI. From the docs I've seen it will but it would be nice to have it ** confirmed. ** ** Cheers ** craig ** ** -----Original Message----- ** From: mh@roam.home.net [mailto:mh@roam.home.net]On Behalf Of Michael ** Hallgren ** Sent: Monday, 20 March 2000 15:05 ** To: Craig Beasland ** Subject: Re: Multihoming ** ** ** Craig Beasland wrote: ** Hi there,st ** ** Hi, ** ** A few questions: ** ** Do you have your own IP addresss space (PI) ? Do you have your ** own ASN ? In ** general I'd say the way to ** go would be to speak BGP with your upstreams, but you might also ** do fairly ** well with static routes seconded ** by floaters (depending on how your space is announced by your ** upstreams ?) ** Michael ** ** I run a small ISP and now require the ability to multihome. I ** have read an ** article that says (using a cisco router) I can add two default ** routes, with ** different priorities. I am not sure how this will help me ** though, because ** if the primary link goes down, the data can not travel back because the ** primary link is down - we had this problem before when we were ** blackholed by ** a previous ISP's BGP routing tables). ** So my question is how can I cheaply achieve a redundant link? ** Cheers ** craig ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ** with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ** -- ** Michael Hallgren, http://m.hallgren.free.fr ** ** ** ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ** with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 6:48:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (serial1-2-velvet-brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222C037B7C9 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 06:48:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA24429; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 01:47:58 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 01:47:55 +1100 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: Troy Settle Cc: Craig Beasland , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Multihoming In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Troy Settle wrote: > Second, ask each of your upstream providers for limited tables. Customer > and Peering routes are a good place to start. > > One trick, that might work for you, is to take *NO* routes from either > upstream. Only advertise your own routes via BGP. This will ensure that > the rest of the world always has a route back to you (assuming that at least > one provider is up :). For your outbound, configure your router to spit > packets out of both interfaces. If one goes down, the other will pick up > the slack (well, as much as possible anyways :). An addition to this is to get your upstream providers to advertise default to you. This isn't perfect, since if part of their network breaks their local router will still be advertising default, but at least it moves the point of failure back one place (ie the physical link could be up but not passing packets - static routes will continue to send packets down it, but BGP will time out and release the default) I take default only from one upstream, and default plus a couple of blocks from another. I advertise all of my blocks to both upstreams. This would probably be the sort of thing that Craig would want to do. > If you want to do this right, get yourself at least a Cisco 3620 or 3640 > (3640 will last longer), and get private line T1s to each of your providers. > You won't regret it (though your accountant might kill you over it :) *steps up onto soapbox* Pardon me while I point out a few "cultural differences", Troy. :) Note the email address of the original poster (Craig), in .AUstralia we don't have T1s, and if we did they would most likely be quite expensive, thanks to our lovely telco Telstra - a 512kbit DDS serial link is about US$2,400 a month for the p-t-p link alone... even 64k ISDN is about $US400 a month. Also in a country with a smaller population (18 million) than the USA, the definition of a "smaller" ISP is remarkably smaller, so added to the above mention of high prices you should probably scale down the suggested link sizes. :) (FWIW, I'm a "small" Australian ISP with a little over 200kbit/sec total transit bandwidth) Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ Sensation Internet Services http://info.sensation.net.au/ Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 8:36:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dominik.saargate.de (ich.mag.frau.trapp.nonsensss.de [212.88.133.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8959237B8D8; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 08:36:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from domi@saargate.de) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dominik.saargate.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA19621; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:32:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from domi@saargate.de) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:32:23 +0100 (CET) From: Dominik Brettnacher To: "danny@FreeBSD.ORG" Cc: jabley@patho.gen.nz, dom@happygiraffe.net, brian@awfulhak.org, nik@FreeBSD.ORG, lee@uk.freebsd.org, freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org, brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ispsetup (was: Re: FreeBSD in Dixons) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, danny@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > Whoa. That's going to lead to a large, deep directory tree, with zillions > of little files, one per ISP. > What about we consider a file per country, with sections for each ISP. Why do you want to use large flat files instead of a file system? The Ports Collection also works fine with lots of little files. I think little files are easier to maintain. -- Dominik - http://www.brettnacher.org/users/dominik/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 12: 1: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E1C37B9B9 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:00:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA29424; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:01:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200003202001.PAA29424@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:56:49 -0500 To: "Troy Settle" , "Craig Beasland" , From: Dennis Subject: RE: Multihoming Cc: "'Michael Hallgren'" In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I dont understand why anyone would recommend a Cisco 36xx on a freebsd list! Get zebra, a dual port card and 128M of ram and run freebsd 3.4. Works like a charm. we have people running dual full T3s, so its not like its a stretch. We also have a complete 1U solution for this at www.etinc.com/t1rm.htm Dennis At 07:58 AM 3/20/00 -0500, Troy Settle wrote: > >A 2503 will not take a 2 full tables. Plus, you wouldn't want to run a full >session over a BRI. > >First, make sure that your upstream is capable of doing BGP over BRI. I >know mine would likely laugh until I cried. > >Second, ask each of your upstream providers for limited tables. Customer >and Peering routes are a good place to start. > >One trick, that might work for you, is to take *NO* routes from either >upstream. Only advertise your own routes via BGP. This will ensure that >the rest of the world always has a route back to you (assuming that at least >one provider is up :). For your outbound, configure your router to spit >packets out of both interfaces. If one goes down, the other will pick up >the slack (well, as much as possible anyways :). > >If you want to do this right, get yourself at least a Cisco 3620 or 3640 >(3640 will last longer), and get private line T1s to each of your providers. >You won't regret it (though your accountant might kill you over it :) > >HTH, > >-- > Troy Settle > Picus Communications > 540.633.6327 > > > >** -----Original Message----- >** From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG >** [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Craig Beasland >** Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 2:25 AM >** To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org >** Cc: 'Michael Hallgren' >** Subject: RE: Multihoming >** >** >** Michael, >** >** I do have my own portable address space, I cannot apply for an >** ASN until I >** am ready to proceed - I guess this is to stop people applying who then do >** not go ahead with the BGP routing. >** >** Does anyone know if a Cisco 2503 will allow me to do BGP, 1 >** frame link and >** one BRI. From the docs I've seen it will but it would be nice to have it >** confirmed. >** >** Cheers >** craig >** >** -----Original Message----- >** From: mh@roam.home.net [mailto:mh@roam.home.net]On Behalf Of Michael >** Hallgren >** Sent: Monday, 20 March 2000 15:05 >** To: Craig Beasland >** Subject: Re: Multihoming >** >** >** Craig Beasland wrote: >** Hi there,st >** >** Hi, >** >** A few questions: >** >** Do you have your own IP addresss space (PI) ? Do you have your >** own ASN ? In >** general I'd say the way to >** go would be to speak BGP with your upstreams, but you might also >** do fairly >** well with static routes seconded >** by floaters (depending on how your space is announced by your >** upstreams ?) >** Michael >** >** I run a small ISP and now require the ability to multihome. I >** have read an >** article that says (using a cisco router) I can add two default >** routes, with >** different priorities. I am not sure how this will help me >** though, because >** if the primary link goes down, the data can not travel back because the >** primary link is down - we had this problem before when we were >** blackholed by >** a previous ISP's BGP routing tables). >** So my question is how can I cheaply achieve a redundant link? >** Cheers >** craig >** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >** with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >** -- >** Michael Hallgren, http://m.hallgren.free.fr >** >** >** >** >** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >** with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >** >** > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > Emerging Technologies, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- http://www.etinc.com ISA and PCI T1/T3/V35/HSSI Cards for FreeBSD and LINUX Multiport T1 and HSSI/T3 UNIX-based Routers Bandwidth Management Standalone Systems Bandwidth Management software for LINUX and FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 12:47:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.cpetc.com (compplus-132.4d.net [207.137.157.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF6D37C4A5 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:36:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kahn@deadbbs.com) Received: from erin-laptop (mongo.sdccd.cc.ca.us [209.129.16.5]) by hermes.cpetc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA00400 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:36:59 -0800 (PST) From: "Kahn" To: Subject: SSI on apache and netscape. Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:40:48 -0800 Message-ID: <001201bf92ac$937df940$6514820a@erin-laptop.sdccd.cc.ca.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I seem to be having a problem with .shtml files and netscape. I did the "AddHandler server-parsed .shtml" into my httpd.conf file and everything seems to work correctly with IE4 and IE5. They read it as HTML, where netscape reads it as text (I can see all the html tags, , ... Any ideas on where I went wrong? Thanks, Erin mailto:kahn@deadbbs.com http://www.deadbbs.com http://www.fortenberry.net Word of the Day : autodarwinate --Stephen Hocking To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 13:19:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.cpetc.com (compplus-132.4d.net [207.137.157.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4832137CCE3 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:57:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kahn@deadbbs.com) Received: from erin-laptop (mongo.sdccd.cc.ca.us [209.129.16.5]) by hermes.cpetc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA00590 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:57:19 -0800 (PST) From: "Kahn" To: Subject: RE: SSI on apache and netscape. Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:01:08 -0800 Message-ID: <002a01bf92af$6a820060$6514820a@erin-laptop.sdccd.cc.ca.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ARRRRGGHGHHH!!! I feel stupid!!! I found it. AddType text/html .shtml Thanks, Erin > -----Original Message----- > From: Kahn [mailto:kahn@deadbbs.com] > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 12:41 PM > To: 'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org' > Subject: SSI on apache and netscape. > > > I seem to be having a problem with .shtml files and netscape. > > I did the "AddHandler server-parsed .shtml" into my > httpd.conf file and everything seems to work correctly with > IE4 and IE5. They read it as HTML, where netscape reads it > as text (I can see all the html tags, , ... > > Any ideas on where I went wrong? > > Thanks, > > > Erin > > > mailto:kahn@deadbbs.com http://www.deadbbs.com http://www.fortenberry.net Word of the Day : autodarwinate --Stephen Hocking To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 13:21:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908FF37C5AB for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:16:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: from thehousleys.net (housley@baby.int.thehousleys.net [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA67371; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:16:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38D69517.4E1649B5@thehousleys.net> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:16:07 -0500 From: James Housley Organization: The Housleys dot Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kahn Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SSI on apache and netscape. References: <001201bf92ac$937df940$6514820a@erin-laptop.sdccd.cc.ca.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Kahn wrote: > > I seem to be having a problem with .shtml files and netscape. > > I did the "AddHandler server-parsed .shtml" into my httpd.conf file and > everything seems to work correctly with IE4 and IE5. They read it as HTML, > where netscape reads it as text (I can see all the html tags, , > ... > You forgot: AddType text/html .shtml You have to add both a handler and a type. Jim -- The wise man built his network upon U*nx. The foolish man built his network upon Windows. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 14: 8:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from zoe2.qserve.net (zoe2.qserve.net [207.250.219.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B94737B8B8 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:08:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rch@qserve.net) Received: from acidic (acidic.qserve.net [207.250.219.40]) by zoe2.qserve.net (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA52989 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:11:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rch@qserve.net) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000320171830.00bec720@qserve.net> X-Sender: rch@qserve.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:24:16 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Robert Hough Subject: Moving mail Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm currently moving all of our users off a very old, and very obsolete machine. I'm looking for a good way of moving the actual mail from the older server to the new. My first thought was to just scp it all over, the correct the permissions, but that seems like a serious amount of work. My second thought was using fetchmail, but that seems to be just as much of a headache. So... Is there a better way of going about this? I'm prepared to do any of the above, but figured I would email and see if anyone else had some ideas on the subject. If you've done something like this in the past, or are planning on it in the future, I'd be eager to see your approach. Thanks -- Robert Hough (rch@qserve.net) Qserve Internet, Inc. http://www.qserve.net/ Ph: (317)802-3036 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 14:12:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.alpha1.net (mail.alpha1.net [216.88.112.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D5D37BA10 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:12:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marius@alpha1.net) Received: from beaker.alpha1.net (marius@beaker.alpha1.net [216.88.237.14]) by mail.alpha1.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00574; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:12:25 -0600 Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:12:18 -0600 (CST) From: Marius Strom To: Robert Hough Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Moving mail In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000320171830.00bec720@qserve.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Robert, If you are continuing with standard V7 spool files, scp and perms maybe the easiest way: newmail# scp user@oldmail:/var/spool/mail/* /var/spool/mail .... newmail# cd /var/spool/mail newmail# for i in *; do chown $i $i chgrp mail $i done If you're switching from V7 to mbox or some other format, I'd recommend formail(1) (note there's only one m in formail) -- Marius Strom Professional Geek/Unix System Administrator Alpha1 Internet http://www.marius.org/marius.pgp 0x42C74CBA *UPDATED PGP KEY 2/24/2000* In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice... ...In practice, there is a big difference. On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Robert Hough wrote: > I'm currently moving all of our users off a very old, and very obsolete > machine. I'm looking for a good way of moving the actual mail from the > older server to the new. My first thought was to just scp it all over, the > correct the permissions, but that seems like a serious amount of work. My > second thought was using fetchmail, but that seems to be just as much of a > headache. > > So... Is there a better way of going about this? I'm prepared to do any of > the above, but figured I would email and see if anyone else had some ideas > on the subject. If you've done something like this in the past, or are > planning on it in the future, I'd be eager to see your approach. Thanks > > > > -- > Robert Hough (rch@qserve.net) Qserve Internet, Inc. > http://www.qserve.net/ Ph: (317)802-3036 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 14:15:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cutter.wantabe.com (cutter.wantabe.com [209.16.8.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853D037BA0E for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:14:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeffrl@wantabe.com) Received: from cutter.wantabe.com (cutter.wantabe.com [209.16.8.8]) by cutter.wantabe.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA85274; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:14:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:14:23 -0600 (CST) From: "Jeffrey J. Libman" To: Robert Hough Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Moving mail In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000320171830.00bec720@qserve.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i simply nfs mounted the mail directory to the new system, shutdown sendmail on the old, then used pax: pax -r -w -pe * /var/mail -pe means basicly: preserve everything. ymmv. cheers, jeff -- | |\ +------------------------------+ Jeffrey J. Libman, ops. mgr. | \ | Wantabe Internet Services | Wantabe, Inc. |__\ +------------------------------+ jeffrl@wantabe.com <-----|------> | access web cgi ftp news mail | (281) 493-0718 __,.-=\'`^`'~=-../__,.-= +------------------------------+ On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Robert Hough wrote: > I'm currently moving all of our users off a very old, and very obsolete > machine. I'm looking for a good way of moving the actual mail from the > older server to the new. My first thought was to just scp it all over, the > correct the permissions, but that seems like a serious amount of work. My > second thought was using fetchmail, but that seems to be just as much of a > headache. > > So... Is there a better way of going about this? I'm prepared to do any of > the above, but figured I would email and see if anyone else had some ideas > on the subject. If you've done something like this in the past, or are > planning on it in the future, I'd be eager to see your approach. Thanks > > > > -- > Robert Hough (rch@qserve.net) Qserve Internet, Inc. > http://www.qserve.net/ Ph: (317)802-3036 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 14:35:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from super-g.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64C137B75B for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:35:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: by super-g.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A833BB419; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:35:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 95FEBB417; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:35:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:35:12 -0500 (EST) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: Julian Stacey Cc: Paul Rice , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pppoe server questions In-Reply-To: <200003192111.VAA31338@jhs.muc.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone tried using the PPPoE server on a large userbase? Would it be possible to bring in a DS3/OC3 via your Cisco router and bridge everything over to a FBSD box running a PPPoE server? Just curious if this is any kind of alternative to the Redback solution, esp. the bit about bridging things out of the router and over to the FBSD box (I would think putting the atm interfaces and the eth port the FBSD box in the same bridge group would work...) Charles --- Charles Sprickman spork@super-g.com --- On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, Julian Stacey wrote: > Reference: > > From: Paul Rice > > Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 10:24:11 -0600 > > Message-id: <38D4FF2B.B11F1F46@surfamerica.net> > > Hi, > Paul Rice wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > I'm moving from linux to freebsd to improve functionablity with our new > > wireless internet product. I'd like to have freebsd work as a pppoe > > server for this product. > > > > Anyone have an idea on how to do this, or advice from successful > > implamentation. > > FWIW 3.4-RELEASE has man pppoed, but 3.3 does not as I recall, > I havent used it yet though. > > Julian > Julian H. Stacey http://www.jhs.muc.de http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 14:50:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B367037BD63 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:50:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwyatt@rwsystems.net) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (1323 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:43:17 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #1 built 1999-Aug-7) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:43:13 -0600 (CST) From: James Wyatt To: Robert Hough Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Moving mail In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000320171830.00bec720@qserve.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org tar and ftp? tar and ssh? - Jy@ On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Robert Hough wrote: > I'm currently moving all of our users off a very old, and very obsolete > machine. I'm looking for a good way of moving the actual mail from the > older server to the new. My first thought was to just scp it all over, the > correct the permissions, but that seems like a serious amount of work. My > second thought was using fetchmail, but that seems to be just as much of a > headache. > > So... Is there a better way of going about this? I'm prepared to do any of > the above, but figured I would email and see if anyone else had some ideas > on the subject. If you've done something like this in the past, or are > planning on it in the future, I'd be eager to see your approach. Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 14:52:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from super-g.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FC537BB31; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:52:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: by super-g.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D9AA4B419; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:52:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C116FB417; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:52:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:52:33 -0500 (EST) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: Dominik Brettnacher Cc: "danny@FreeBSD.ORG" , jabley@patho.gen.nz, dom@happygiraffe.net, brian@awfulhak.org, nik@FreeBSD.ORG, lee@uk.freebsd.org, freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org, brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ispsetup (was: Re: FreeBSD in Dixons) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Dominik Brettnacher wrote: > Why do you want to use large flat files instead of a file system? The > Ports Collection also works fine with lots of little files. I think little > files are easier to maintain. Ever unpack ports? It takes forever on the fastest machines. The last install I did, I think it took longer to install ports than the rest of the OS... Charles > -- > Dominik - http://www.brettnacher.org/users/dominik/ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 15: 0:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uunet.ca (mail2.uunet.ca [142.77.1.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4341C37BF05; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:00:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca ([216.95.146.6]) by mail2.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <599832-1885>; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:54:48 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:59:23 -0500 From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: spork Cc: Dominik Brettnacher , "danny@FreeBSD.ORG" , jabley@patho.gen.nz, dom@happygiraffe.net, brian@awfulhak.org, nik@FreeBSD.ORG, lee@uk.freebsd.org, freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org, brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org, FreeBSD-ISP Subject: Re: ispsetup (was: Re: FreeBSD in Dixons) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I dislike sending a "me too" along the list, however this is something that has bothered me for along time. Installations from CD crawl to about a 24KB throughput, untarring it is just as horrible, not to meantion using cvsup with a blank /usr/ports! It would be much easier if there were not tens of thousands of little files, but that's just my opinion. Matt -- Matt Heckaman [matt@arpa.mail.net|matt@relic.net] [Please do not send me] !Powered by FreeBSD/x86! [http://www.freebsd.org] [any SPAM (UCE) e-mail] On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, spork wrote: : Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:52:33 -0500 : From: spork : To: Dominik Brettnacher : Cc: "danny@FreeBSD.ORG" , jabley@patho.gen.nz, : dom@happygiraffe.net, brian@awfulhak.org, nik@FreeBSD.ORG, : lee@uk.freebsd.org, freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org, : brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG : Subject: Re: ispsetup (was: Re: FreeBSD in Dixons) : : : On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Dominik Brettnacher wrote: : : > Why do you want to use large flat files instead of a file system? The : > Ports Collection also works fine with lots of little files. I think little : > files are easier to maintain. : : Ever unpack ports? It takes forever on the fastest machines. The last : install I did, I think it took longer to install ports than the rest of : the OS... : : Charles : : > -- : > Dominik - http://www.brettnacher.org/users/dominik/ : > : > : > : > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org : > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message : > : : : : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org : with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 15: 8:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from enya.clari.net.au (enya.clari.net.au [203.8.14.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD25837BA6D; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:08:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danny@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (danny@localhost) by enya.clari.net.au (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA17544; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:06:47 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from danny@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: enya.clari.net.au: danny owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:06:46 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" X-Sender: danny@enya.clari.net.au To: spork Cc: Dominik Brettnacher , jabley@patho.gen.nz, dom@happygiraffe.net, brian@awfulhak.org, nik@freebsd.org, lee@uk.freebsd.org, freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org, brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ispsetup (was: Re: FreeBSD in Dixons) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, spork wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Dominik Brettnacher wrote: > > > Why do you want to use large flat files instead of a file system? The > > Ports Collection also works fine with lots of little files. I think little > > files are easier to maintain. > > Ever unpack ports? It takes forever on the fastest machines. The last > install I did, I think it took longer to install ports than the rest of > the OS... That's my feeling. It's especially sad to twiddle one's thumbs and listen to the disk crunching while it unpacks the korean, japanese, russian, graphics and many other ports sections which I am never going to use. Repeating the exercise for all the ISPs in the world would be suboptimal, to say the least. Danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 15:10:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26BD37BB46; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:10:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwyatt@rwsystems.net) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (1752 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:07:45 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #1 built 1999-Aug-7) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:07:44 -0600 (CST) From: James Wyatt To: spork Cc: Dominik Brettnacher , "danny@FreeBSD.ORG" , jabley@patho.gen.nz, dom@happygiraffe.net, brian@awfulhak.org, nik@FreeBSD.ORG, lee@uk.freebsd.org, freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org, brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ispsetup (was: Re: FreeBSD in Dixons) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, spork wrote: > On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Dominik Brettnacher wrote: > > Why do you want to use large flat files instead of a file system? The > > Ports Collection also works fine with lots of little files. I think little > > files are easier to maintain. > > Ever unpack ports? It takes forever on the fastest machines. The last > install I did, I think it took longer to install ports than the rest of > the OS... Amen! I kinda wish it would install a tarball to the HD and start a background process to unpack it... Maybe make a metaport that has just enough of the ports setup to ask for the rest. There could be a file in the dist directory with the ports tree. - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 15:12:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jking1.lgc.com (jking1.lgc.com [134.132.228.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6694137B9B4 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:12:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from king@sstar.com) Received: from MAROON (maroon [134.132.228.8]) by jking1.lgc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA50884; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:12:30 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from king@sstar.com) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000320171052.00a78338@mail.sstar.com> X-Sender: king@mail.sstar.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:12:30 -0600 To: Matt Heckaman , spork From: Jim King Subject: Re: ispsetup (was: Re: FreeBSD in Dixons) Cc: FreeBSD-ISP In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I agree, installing /usr/ports is annoyingly slow. Nowadays I wait until after the install for some convenient time, hopefully after I've got softupdates turned on. Jim At 05:59 PM 3/20/2000 -0500, Matt Heckaman wrote: >I dislike sending a "me too" along the list, however this is something >that has bothered me for along time. Installations from CD crawl to about >a 24KB throughput, untarring it is just as horrible, not to meantion using >cvsup with a blank /usr/ports! It would be much easier if there were not >tens of thousands of little files, but that's just my opinion. > >Matt >-- >Matt Heckaman [matt@arpa.mail.net|matt@relic.net] [Please do not send me] >!Powered by FreeBSD/x86! [http://www.freebsd.org] [any SPAM (UCE) e-mail] > >On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, spork wrote: > >: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:52:33 -0500 >: From: spork >: To: Dominik Brettnacher >: Cc: "danny@FreeBSD.ORG" , jabley@patho.gen.nz, >: dom@happygiraffe.net, brian@awfulhak.org, nik@FreeBSD.ORG, >: lee@uk.freebsd.org, freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org, >: brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG >: Subject: Re: ispsetup (was: Re: FreeBSD in Dixons) >: >: >: On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Dominik Brettnacher wrote: >: >: > Why do you want to use large flat files instead of a file system? The >: > Ports Collection also works fine with lots of little files. I think little >: > files are easier to maintain. >: >: Ever unpack ports? It takes forever on the fastest machines. The last >: install I did, I think it took longer to install ports than the rest of >: the OS... >: >: Charles >: >: > -- >: > Dominik - http://www.brettnacher.org/users/dominik/ >: > >: > >: > >: > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >: > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >: > >: >: >: >: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >: with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >: > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 15:13:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from azazel.zer0.org (azazel.zer0.org [209.133.53.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F46937BB31 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:13:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gsutter@zer0.org) Received: (from gsutter@localhost) by azazel.zer0.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA01234; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:12:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gsutter@zer0.org) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:12:16 -0800 From: Gregory Sutter To: Robert Hough Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Moving mail Message-ID: <20000320151216.A96891@azazel.zer0.org> References: <4.2.0.58.20000320171830.00bec720@qserve.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000320171830.00bec720@qserve.net>; from rch@qserve.net on Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 05:24:16PM -0500 Organization: Zer0 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2000-03-20 17:24 -0500, Robert Hough wrote: > I'm currently moving all of our users off a very old, and very obsolete > machine. I'm looking for a good way of moving the actual mail from the > older server to the new. My first thought was to just scp it all over, the > correct the permissions, but that seems like a serious amount of work. My > second thought was using fetchmail, but that seems to be just as much of a > headache. > > So... Is there a better way of going about this? I'm prepared to do any of > the above, but figured I would email and see if anyone else had some ideas > on the subject. If you've done something like this in the past, or are > planning on it in the future, I'd be eager to see your approach. Thanks /usr/ports/net/rsync Greg -- Gregory S. Sutter Was Jimi's modem a Purple Hayes? mailto:gsutter@zer0.org http://www.zer0.org/~gsutter/ PGP DSS public key 0x40AE3052 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 15:18: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from colossus.invictanet.co.uk (colossus.invictanet.co.uk [62.232.18.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D639437BE81 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:18:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from support@invictanet.co.uk) Received: from harry (modem73.netkonect.net [194.164.208.73]) by colossus.invictanet.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA13975 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:18:22 GMT Reply-To: From: "Customer Support" To: "Freebsd-ISP" Subject: Bandwith Limiting Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:17:46 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We host several FreeBSD machines on our Network. We need to limit the bandwidth to each of these machines so we can charge for 64k, 128k etc. Any suggestions on what we need to do please. Thanks Martyn ----------------------------------------------------- InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed http://www.invictanet.co.uk mailto:info@invictanet.co.uk phone: 0870 7402252 fax: +44 (0)1233 334001 ------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 15:19:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from elwood.akitanet.co.uk (elwood.akitanet.co.uk [212.1.130.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4902B37BA3F; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:19:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wigstah@akitanet.co.uk) Received: from jake.akitanet.co.uk (jake.akitanet.co.uk [212.1.130.131]) by elwood.akitanet.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA48474; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:28:49 GMT Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 00:10:18 +0000 (GMT) From: Paul Robinson To: "Daniel O'Callaghan" Cc: spork , Dominik Brettnacher , jabley@patho.gen.nz, dom@happygiraffe.net, brian@awfulhak.org, nik@FreeBSD.ORG, lee@uk.freebsd.org, freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org, brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ispsetup (was: Re: FreeBSD in Dixons) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Daniel O'Callaghan wrote: > That's my feeling. It's especially sad to twiddle one's thumbs and listen > to the disk crunching while it unpacks the korean, japanese, russian, > graphics and many other ports sections which I am never going to use. > Repeating the exercise for all the ISPs in the world would be suboptimal, > to say the least. I think you might have kind of hit the nail on the head here... If I live in the UK (oh, I do, that's handy!) do I really need the ispsetup files for the rest of the world if I know my hardware is never going there? I think it might be an idea to try and seperate it up. Perhaps have a ports-like system where the relevant files for a given country are downloaded only when a user goes into /usr/ports/ispestup/XX where XX is a standard country code, and types make install. Then, the ispsetup files are copied to wherever on the system automagically. If we assume that there are only about a hundred countries that would be in here, it would be equivalent to downloading 2 or maybe 3 of the larger sections of ports, without having to get everything. This means I and you don't have to sit and wait for all the national and regional ISPs for Turkey to be downloaded unless we plan to take our laptop to Turkey. Is it just me, or does this sort of make sense? I somehow think that the initial distribution will be relatively small, but still retains all the usability required to be able to get all the required information reasonably quickly. A tie-in to /usr/ports seems sensible to me, but what do I know? :) Just my 2euros worth. :) -- Paul Robinson - Developer/Systems Administrator @ Akitanet Internet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 15:23:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from elwood.akitanet.co.uk (elwood.akitanet.co.uk [212.1.130.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59FDC37BD71; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:22:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wigstah@akitanet.co.uk) Received: from jake.akitanet.co.uk (jake.akitanet.co.uk [212.1.130.131]) by elwood.akitanet.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA48520; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:32:14 GMT Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 00:13:43 +0000 (GMT) From: Paul Robinson To: James Wyatt Cc: spork , Dominik Brettnacher , "danny@FreeBSD.ORG" , jabley@patho.gen.nz, dom@happygiraffe.net, brian@awfulhak.org, nik@FreeBSD.ORG, lee@uk.freebsd.org, freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org, brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ispsetup (was: Re: FreeBSD in Dixons) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, James Wyatt wrote: > Amen! I kinda wish it would install a tarball to the HD and start a > background process to unpack it... Maybe make a metaport that has just > enough of the ports setup to ask for the rest. There could be a file in > the dist directory with the ports tree. - Jy@ Yeah, OpenBSD does a ports.tar.gz , but then it also does man.tar.gz, bin.tar.gz, etc... kinda sweet, as an additional choice if you just can't be bothered CVS'ing and like me feel far more efficient FTP'ing one file and tar zxvf'ing it... :) I'm weird like that though... -- Paul Robinson - Developer/Systems Administrator @ Akitanet Internet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 15:51:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from nemesis.oss.uswest.net (nemesis.oss.uswest.net [204.147.85.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C967537B9B3 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:51:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cuy@nemesis.oss.uswest.net) Received: (qmail 87169 invoked by uid 101); 20 Mar 2000 23:51:29 -0000 Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:51:29 -0600 From: Christopher Uy To: Customer Support Cc: Freebsd-ISP Subject: Re: Bandwith Limiting Message-ID: <20000320175129.A86813@uswest.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from "support@invictanet.co.uk" on Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 11:17:46PM Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 11:17:46PM -0000, Customer Support wrote: > We host several FreeBSD machines on our Network. > > We need to limit the bandwidth to each of these machines so we can charge for 64k, 128k etc. > > Any suggestions on what we need to do please. > man dummynet - chris -- Christopher Uy U S WEST Internet Services Systems Engineer 600 Stinson Blvd. 3S E-mail: cuy@uswest.net Minneapolis, MN 55413 "You never really learn to swear until you learn to drive." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 16:32:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from enya.clari.net.au (enya.clari.net.au [203.8.14.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0B037BC7B for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:32:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danny@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (danny@localhost) by enya.clari.net.au (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA17905; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:32:33 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from danny@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: enya.clari.net.au: danny owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:32:33 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" X-Sender: danny@enya.clari.net.au To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Cc: jessica@clari.net.au Subject: RAID and root filesystem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm about to implement a RAID system for a customer webserver. The customer is on edge about not having RAID on /. They want to go to 4.0 to get RAID on /, but I feel that 4.0 is a bit premature, since they are "Desperately Seeking Stability". Can other people please comment on: * 4.0 with AMI RAID, apache, mysql in a Dell PIII-600 * as above with 3.4 - what have others done to achieve redundant root filesystems? Traffic rate is about 200,000 hits per day, with a very large proportion driven through perl scripts. Thanks, Danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 16:53:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417B337BB77 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:53:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA00418; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 19:53:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200003210053.TAA00418@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 19:48:50 -0500 To: From: Dennis Subject: Re: Bandwith Limiting Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 11:17 PM 3/20/00 +0000, you wrote: >We host several FreeBSD machines on our Network. > >We need to limit the bandwidth to each of these machines so we can charge for 64k, 128k etc. > >Any suggestions on what we need to do please. Take a look at www.etinc.com We offer a commercial bandwidth management software add-on for Freebsd with a GUI and graphical reporting capability. Maybe more than you need, but its easy to use and very powerful. Dennis Emerging Technologies, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- http://www.etinc.com ISA and PCI T1/T3/V35/HSSI Cards for FreeBSD and LINUX Multiport T1 and HSSI/T3 UNIX-based Routers Bandwidth Management Standalone Systems Bandwidth Management software for LINUX and FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 17:43:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.alpha1.net (mail.alpha1.net [216.88.112.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D5F37C268 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:43:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marius@alpha1.net) Received: from marius.org (marius.org [216.88.115.170]) by mail.alpha1.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA28979; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 19:43:37 -0600 Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 19:44:59 -0600 (CST) From: Marius Strom X-Sender: marius@marius.org To: Dennis Cc: support@invictanet.co.uk, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bandwith Limiting In-Reply-To: <200003210053.TAA00418@etinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Or just try dummynet(4) if you don't need the GUI. -- Marius Strom Professional Geek/Unix System Administrator Alpha1 Internet http://www.marius.org/marius.pgp 0x42C74CBA *UPDATED PGP KEY 2/24/2000* In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice... ...In practice, there is a big difference. On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Dennis wrote: > At 11:17 PM 3/20/00 +0000, you wrote: > >We host several FreeBSD machines on our Network. > > > >We need to limit the bandwidth to each of these machines so we can charge > for 64k, 128k etc. > > > >Any suggestions on what we need to do please. > > Take a look at www.etinc.com > > We offer a commercial bandwidth management software add-on for Freebsd with > a GUI and graphical reporting capability. Maybe more than you need, but its > easy to use and very powerful. > > Dennis > Emerging Technologies, Inc. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------- > > > http://www.etinc.com > ISA and PCI T1/T3/V35/HSSI Cards for FreeBSD and LINUX > Multiport T1 and HSSI/T3 UNIX-based Routers > Bandwidth Management Standalone Systems > Bandwidth Management software for LINUX and FreeBSD > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 17:48:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from infoserve.com.tw (infoserve.com.tw [210.62.129.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C74337BA45 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:47:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jack@infoserve.com.tw) Received: from infoserve.com.tw (NAT-DHCP.is.net.tw [210.244.159.130]) by infoserve.com.tw (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA26180; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 01:43:49 GMT Message-ID: <38D6D3AB.FF6E5FAA@infoserve.com.tw> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:43:07 +0800 From: Jack Jane Reply-To: jack@infoserve.com.tw Organization: Infoserve Technology Corp. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: zh-TW,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@invictanet.co.uk Cc: Freebsd-ISP Subject: Re: Bandwith Limiting References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I setup a Flexible Bandwidth Control Host(FBC) to limit bandwidth, net0 net1 +--- host-1 ----------+ FBC +-------- Switch +--- host-2 +--- : : +--- : : +--- host-n Here is my setting, kernel file #=============================== options "NMBCLUSTERS=10240" options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options "IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100" options DUMMYNET rc.conf #=============================== firewall_enable="YES" firewall_script="/etc/rc.firewall" firewall_type="OPEN" firewall_quiet="NO" gateway_enable="YES" rc.local #=============================== ipfw add 90 pipe 1 ip from [host-1 IP] to any ipfw add 90 pipe 2 ip from any to [host-1 IP] ipfw pipe 1 config bw 128Kbit/s ipfw pipe 2 config bw 128Kbit/s Customer Support wrote: > We host several FreeBSD machines on our Network. > > We need to limit the bandwidth to each of these machines so we can charge for 64k, 128k etc. > > Any suggestions on what we need to do please. > > Thanks > Martyn > ----------------------------------------------------- > InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed > http://www.invictanet.co.uk > mailto:info@invictanet.co.uk > phone: 0870 7402252 > fax: +44 (0)1233 334001 > ------------------------------------------------------ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 21:25:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from frontier.netnology.com.au (frontier.netnology.com.au [203.33.30.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F46A37BE62 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:25:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craig@hotmix.com.au) Received: from marvin ([203.33.30.209]) by frontier.netnology.com.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA11645; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:07:30 +0800 From: "Craig Beasland" To: Cc: Subject: RE: Multihoming Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:17:05 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chris, Thanks for the links - I have already seem the second one, thats the one that scared me so much in the first place - it is also very cisco focused. I did start to investigate BGP with freebsd and gated and was almost ready to tackle it, when I received an advisory about gated - cant find any reference to it now but I clearly remember it, I promise. Not sure about Zebra never got that far. Cheers craig > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Knight [mailto:chris@aims.com.au] > Sent: Tuesday, 21 March 2000 12:35 > To: craig@hotmix.com.au > Subject: RE: Multihoming > > > Howdy, > I found the following pages useful when researching BGP: > > http://joe.lindsay.net/bgp.html > http://www.netaxs.com/~freedman/bgp.html > > The second page was especially useful regarding > implementing BGP and > picking the right platform. Given you've e-mailed to a > FreeBSD list, then > you might be best using FreeBSD and gated/Zebra. Have a look > through the > mail archives for FreeBSD sizing for BGP routing. > Can't help you directly - I'll be doing all this though > in a month's time, > but I'll be using FreeBSD boxen. > > Regards, > Chris Knight > Systems Administrator > AIMS Independent Computer Professionals > Tel: +61 3 6334 6664 Fax: +61 3 6331 7032 Mob: +61 419 528 795 > Web: http://www.aims.com.au > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Craig Beasland > > Sent: Monday, 20 March 2000 18:25 > > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > Cc: 'Michael Hallgren' > > Subject: RE: Multihoming > > > > > > Michael, > > > > I do have my own portable address space, I cannot apply for > > an ASN until I > > am ready to proceed - I guess this is to stop people applying > > who then do > > not go ahead with the BGP routing. > > > > Does anyone know if a Cisco 2503 will allow me to do BGP, 1 > > frame link and > > one BRI. From the docs I've seen it will but it would be > > nice to have it > > confirmed. > > > > Cheers > > craig > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mh@roam.home.net [mailto:mh@roam.home.net]On Behalf Of Michael > > Hallgren > > Sent: Monday, 20 March 2000 15:05 > > To: Craig Beasland > > Subject: Re: Multihoming > > > > > > Craig Beasland wrote: > > Hi there,st > > > > Hi, > > > > A few questions: > > > > Do you have your own IP addresss space (PI) ? Do you have > > your own ASN ? In > > general I'd say the way to > > go would be to speak BGP with your upstreams, but you might > > also do fairly > > well with static routes seconded > > by floaters (depending on how your space is announced by your > > upstreams ?) > > Michael > > > > I run a small ISP and now require the ability to multihome. > > I have read an > > article that says (using a cisco router) I can add two > > default routes, with > > different priorities. I am not sure how this will help me > > though, because > > if the primary link goes down, the data can not travel back > > because the > > primary link is down - we had this problem before when we > > were blackholed by > > a previous ISP's BGP routing tables). > > So my question is how can I cheaply achieve a redundant link? > > Cheers > > craig > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > -- > > Michael Hallgren, http://m.hallgren.free.fr > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 21:41:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (serial1-2-velvet-brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A2B37BED3 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:41:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA28117; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:40:42 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:40:40 +1100 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: Craig Beasland Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Multihoming In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Craig Beasland wrote: > Chris, > > Thanks for the links - I have already seem the second one, thats the one > that scared me so much in the first place - it is also very cisco focused. > > I did start to investigate BGP with freebsd and gated and was almost ready > to tackle it, when I received an advisory about gated - cant find any > reference to it now but I clearly remember it, I promise. Not sure about > Zebra never got that far. Hi Craig, I wrote you quite a detailed reply in private yesterday but I'm a little bewildered at the zero response from you...? Unless you're overwhelmed by people trying to help. :-) With regards to Zebra, I have another suggestion: MRTd (http://www.merit.edu/~mrt/). This is a similar "Cisco style CLI" routing daemon which is probably a bit more stable than Zebra, although the latter does contain more latest and greatest features. FYI, I run a custom version of FreeBSD on my border which is connected to a TA220 ISDN modem using PPP to my upstreams. I use MRTd for BGP talk. I used to use gated, and it worked well, but once I started doing BGP globally it just became too limiting. If you need any assistance with MRTd (or the whole BGP thing) I'd be happy to help. Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ Sensation Internet Services http://info.sensation.net.au/ Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 21:46:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dominik.saargate.de (ich.mag.frau.trapp.nonsensss.de [212.88.133.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047C937BE97 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:46:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from domi@saargate.de) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dominik.saargate.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA24700; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 06:43:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from domi@saargate.de) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 06:43:40 +0100 (CET) From: Dominik Brettnacher To: "spork@super-g.com" Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ispsetup (was: Re: FreeBSD in Dixons) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, spork@super-g.com wrote: > >> Why do you want to use large flat files instead of a file system? The > >> Ports Collection also works fine with lots of little files. I think > >little > >> files are easier to maintain. > Ever unpack ports? It takes forever on the fastest machines. The last > install I did, I think it took longer to install ports than the rest of > the OS... That's why I install the Ports Collection in background after having installed FreeBSD. FreeBSD's multitasking is quite good :) -- Dominik - http://www.brettnacher.org/users/dominik/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 20 23:21:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A1137B9AE for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:21:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA63123; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:20:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <38D722C8.314E884D@gorean.org> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:20:40 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0316 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dennis Cc: Troy Settle , Craig Beasland , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, "'Michael Hallgren'" Subject: Re: Multihoming References: <200003202001.PAA29424@etinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dennis wrote: > > I dont understand why anyone would recommend a Cisco 36xx on a freebsd list! Because they have bosses who wouldn't consider anything else? I'm as much of a freebsd advocate as anyone, but reality is what it is. Doug -- "While the future's there for anyone to change, still you know it seems, it would be easier sometimes to change the past" - Jackson Browne, "Fountain of Sorrow" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 21 0:12:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from fe080.worldonline.dk (fe080.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0769E37B736 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 00:12:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hroi@asdf.dk) Received: (qmail 10183 invoked by uid 0); 21 Mar 2000 08:12:18 -0000 Received: from 110.ppp1-31.worldonline.dk (HELO asdf.dk) (212.54.93.110) by fe080.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 21 Mar 2000 08:12:18 -0000 Message-ID: <38D72F49.30132F75@asdf.dk> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:14:01 +0100 From: Hroi Sigurdsson Organization: http://asdf.dk/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.71 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: da MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: FreeBSD ISP List Subject: Re: ISO images redux References: <200003192107.VAA31321@jhs.muc.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Julian Stacey wrote: > - NB FreeBSD-4.0 sources are out, (I'm compilng mine now), CDs will no doubt > be announced, if they haven't already. The 4.0 iso image is almost up now. It is being uploaded as I type. -- Hroi Sigurdsson hroi@asdf.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 21 0:17:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from omnix.net (omnix.net [195.154.168.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E240F37BA82 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 00:17:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from didier@omnix.net) Received: (qmail 6315 invoked by uid 200); 21 Mar 2000 08:17:30 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Mar 2000 08:17:30 -0000 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 08:17:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Didier Derny To: Customer Support Cc: Freebsd-ISP Subject: Re: Bandwith Limiting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, I'm using FreeBSD 3.4-release from KAME-stable I control everything with ALTQ/CBQ till now it works wonderfully -- Didier Derny didier@omnix.net On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Customer Support wrote: > We host several FreeBSD machines on our Network. > > We need to limit the bandwidth to each of these machines so we can charge for 64k, 128k etc. > > Any suggestions on what we need to do please. > > > Thanks > Martyn > ----------------------------------------------------- > InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed > http://www.invictanet.co.uk > mailto:info@invictanet.co.uk > phone: 0870 7402252 > fax: +44 (0)1233 334001 > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 21 1:14: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bayer2.bayer-ag.de (bayer2.bayer-ag.de [194.120.191.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A253237BBC6 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 01:13:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas.klemm.ak@bayer-ag.de) Received: from BYE473.BAYER-AG.DE (bye473.bayer-ag.com) by bayer2.bayer-ag.de with SMTP id KAA20702 (SMTP Gateway 4.2 for ); Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:13:32 +0100 Received: by BYE473.BAYER-AG.DE (Soft-Switch LMS 3.2) with snapi via MT0044 id 0006800021925997; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:14:16 +0100 From: andreas.klemm.ak@bayer-ag.de To: " - *freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Subject: which mirror program is currently the best ? Message-Id: <0006800021925997000002L072*@MHS> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:14:16 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi ! Is it the mirror program based on perl, or is there something better available. Better with respect to speed, less resource wastage, features like e-mail notification .... Andreas /// To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 21 1:36:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.149.48.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A2B137B632 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 01:36:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhs@jhs.muc.de) Received: (qmail 29002 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2000 09:41:38 -0000 Received: from jhs.muc.de (193.149.49.84) by slarti.muc.de with SMTP; 21 Mar 2000 09:41:38 -0000 Received: from park.jhs.no_domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jhs.muc.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA37704; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:32:01 GMT (envelope-from jhs@park.jhs.no_domain) Message-Id: <200003202232.WAA37704@jhs.muc.de> To: Dominik Brettnacher Cc: "danny@FreeBSD.ORG" , jabley@patho.gen.nz, dom@happygiraffe.net, brian@awfulhak.org, nik@FreeBSD.ORG, lee@uk.freebsd.org, freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org, brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ispsetup (was: Re: FreeBSD in Dixons) From: "Julian Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd - Unix & Internet consultancy X-Web: http://www.jhs.muc.de http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:32:23 +0100." Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:32:01 +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Dominik Brettnacher wrote: > On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, danny@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > > > Whoa. That's going to lead to a large, deep directory tree, with zillions > > of little files, one per ISP. > > What about we consider a file per country, with sections for each ISP. > > Why do you want to use large flat files instead of a file system? The > Ports Collection also works fine with lots of little files. I think little > files are easier to maintain. A number of ports people a few months back were regretting all those little files, quite a number would have liked to see them amalgamated into something that uses less files, trouble is it's hard to change at this stage: 3200 ports, & things like pib know the format too. CVS checkout of ports/ takes forever compared with src/, & src/ is a lot bigger (in du, not in inodes). Not yet being trapped to use tons of files to describe ISPs, seems sensible to consider some way of not using too many files :-) BTW whoever decides the format, don't forget countries sometimes merge (EG E & W Germany), & sometimes split (EG [name your favourite independence movement]), as well as companies etc. Julian - Julian Stacey http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/ http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 21 3: 7:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.island.net.au (mail.island.net.au [203.28.142.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F57037B87F for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 03:07:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hugh@mail.island.net.au) Received: from localhost (hugh@localhost) by mail.island.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA23493 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:07:11 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:07:10 +1100 (EST) From: Hugh Blandford To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: pipsecd Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, has anyone managed to get pipsecd to talk to an Ascend/Lucent Pipeline 50? Or would anyone have a clue how to make pipsecd do 40 bit DES encryption. Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks, Hugh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 21 6:26:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.tcworks.net (ns.tcworks.net [216.61.218.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B71437B7B3 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 06:26:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Received: from tcworks.net (xcess@stuck.sticky.org [216.61.218.6]) by ns.tcworks.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA98934; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 08:23:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Message-ID: <38D78761.BD0D5DCD@tcworks.net> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 08:29:53 -0600 From: Chris Cook X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Hough Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Moving mail References: <4.2.0.58.20000320171830.00bec720@qserve.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Robert Hough wrote: > > I'm currently moving all of our users off a very old, and very obsolete > machine. I'm looking for a good way of moving the actual mail from the > older server to the new. My first thought was to just scp it all over, the > correct the permissions, but that seems like a serious amount of work. My > second thought was using fetchmail, but that seems to be just as much of a > headache. > How about dump and restore? Works very well for me... if it is on the same LAN, just make a dumped image file of the partitions you want, ftp it to the destination machine (or put the destination HD in the box and copy it over) then restore it. Works like a champ! -- Chris o----< ccook@tcworks.net >----------------------------------------o |Chris Cook - Technician | TCWORKS.NET - http://www.tcworks.net | |The Computer Works | FreeBSD - http://www.freebsd.org | o-----------------------------------------------------------------o To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 21 13:42: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB48037BCFC for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:42:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.9.2/8.9.3) with UUCP id WAA84353 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:41:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.0.14]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA46744 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:40:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <009701bf937e$2947d8c0$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Reply-To: "Leif Neland" From: "Leif Neland" To: Subject: rbl, rss, dul Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:36:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How widespread is the use of rbl, rss and dul? I often check the sites rejected at mail-abuse.org, and often they have = been blocked for months. Does these people not check/understand the bounce-messages they get, or = is it only few people who are using rbl, rss and dul? I reject 100-200 messages a day, and some mail does get blocked, which = are not spam. I also see some servers are fixed for relaying, but the admin never told = mail-abuse.org. So I submit the sites for re-testing and they get = removed. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 21 13:52:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from queeg.ludd.luth.se (queeg.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0288237B764 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:52:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pantzer@ludd.luth.se) Received: from speedy.ludd.luth.se (pantzer@speedy.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.164]) by queeg.ludd.luth.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA17410; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:52:29 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200003212152.WAA17410@queeg.ludd.luth.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: andreas.klemm.ak@bayer-ag.de Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: which mirror program is currently the best ? In-Reply-To: Message from andreas.klemm.ak@bayer-ag.de of "Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:14:16 +0100." <0006800021925997000002L072*@MHS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:52:28 +0100 From: Mattias Pantzare Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi ! > > Is it the mirror program based on perl, or is there something > better available. > > Better with respect to speed, less resource wastage, > features like e-mail notification .... Take a look at spegla. (/usr/ports/ftp/spegla) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 21 17:40: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from lark.capnet.state.tx.us (lark.capnet.state.tx.us [204.65.39.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7708937BEE9 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Bryan.Bradsby@mail.capnet.state.tx.us) Received: from localhost (bbradsby@localhost) by lark.capnet.state.tx.us (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e2M1dvk79683 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:39:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:39:57 -0600 (CST) From: Bryan Bradsby To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Rateup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > /usr/local/etc/mrtg/mrtg.cfg > > PROBLEM: rateup died from Signal 8 > with Exit Value 0 when doing router 'srvr_enet' > If this happens all the time, > you should probably investigate the cause. :-) We got this when the version of mrtg did not match rateup. If you have upgraded mrtg recently, check for multiple (different) versions of rateup. > roy -bryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 22 1:25:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tusk.mountain-inter.net (tusk.mountain-inter.net [204.244.200.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 652BE37BD3A for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 01:25:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sreid@sea-to-sky.net) Received: from grok.localnet (unknown@analog24.sq.mntn.net [204.244.200.33]) by tusk.mountain-inter.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e2M9PoI19800 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 01:25:50 -0800 Received: by grok.localnet (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8E5C4212E07; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 01:27:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 01:27:05 -0800 From: Steve Reid To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Secure pop/imap server? Message-ID: <20000322012705.A1743@grok.localnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I know there are a bunch of POP and IMAP servers available, but I also know that a lot of them have a history of security problems. Is there a POP and/or IMAP server for those of us who are paranoid enough to replace sendmail with qmail/postfix? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 22 1:31:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from enterprise.sanyusan.se (enterprise.sanyusan.se [212.209.55.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589C437C12B for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 01:31:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anders@enterprise.sanyusan.se) Received: (from anders@localhost) by enterprise.sanyusan.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA52935; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:30:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anders) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:30:47 +0100 From: Anders Andersson To: Mattias Pantzare Cc: andreas.klemm.ak@bayer-ag.de, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: which mirror program is currently the best ? Message-ID: <20000322103047.A52877@enterprise.sanyusan.se> References: <0006800021925997000002L072*@MHS> <200003212152.WAA17410@queeg.ludd.luth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200003212152.WAA17410@queeg.ludd.luth.se>; from pantzer@ludd.luth.se on Tis, Mar 21, 2000 at 10:52:28pm +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org on Tis, Mar 21, 2000 at 10:52:28pm +0100, Mattias Pantzare wrote: > > Hi ! > > > > Is it the mirror program based on perl, or is there something > > better available. > > > > Better with respect to speed, less resource wastage, > > features like e-mail notification .... > > Take a look at spegla. (/usr/ports/ftp/spegla) I can only agree with Mattias, spegla is great. -- Anders Andersson anders@sanyusan.se Sanyusan International AB http://www.sanyusan.se/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 22 6: 6: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from al.san.ru (al.san.ru [194.87.134.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5A337BB0A for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 06:06:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from al@al.san.ru) Received: (from al@localhost) by al.san.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00928 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:04:45 +0300 (MSK) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:04:44 +0300 From: Alexander Latukhin To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: test Message-ID: <20000322170444.A920@al.san.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org test To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 22 6: 9:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shemp.palomine.net (shemp.palomine.net [205.198.88.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 879E337B99A for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 06:09:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjohnson@palomine.net) Received: (qmail 54623 invoked by uid 1000); 22 Mar 2000 14:09:20 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:09:20 -0500 From: Chris Johnson To: Steve Reid Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Secure pop/imap server? Message-ID: <20000322090920.A54582@palomine.net> References: <20000322012705.A1743@grok.localnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000322012705.A1743@grok.localnet>; from sreid@sea-to-sky.net on Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 01:27:05AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 01:27:05AM -0800, Steve Reid wrote: > I know there are a bunch of POP and IMAP servers available, but I also know > that a lot of them have a history of security problems. > > Is there a POP and/or IMAP server for those of us who are paranoid enough to > replace sendmail with qmail/postfix? If you're going to use qmail, use qmail-pop3d, which comes with the qmail distribution. Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 22 6:18:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from nemesis.oss.uswest.net (nemesis.oss.uswest.net [204.147.85.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B154437C168 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 06:18:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cuy@nemesis.oss.uswest.net) Received: (qmail 93861 invoked by uid 101); 22 Mar 2000 14:18:08 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 08:18:08 -0600 From: Christopher Uy To: Chris Johnson Cc: Steve Reid , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Secure pop/imap server? Message-ID: <20000322081808.A93825@uswest.net> References: <20000322012705.A1743@grok.localnet> <20000322090920.A54582@palomine.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000322090920.A54582@palomine.net>; from "cjohnson@palomine.net" on Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 09:09:20AM Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 09:09:20AM -0500, Chris Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 01:27:05AM -0800, Steve Reid wrote: > > I know there are a bunch of POP and IMAP servers available, but I also know > > that a lot of them have a history of security problems. > > > > Is there a POP and/or IMAP server for those of us who are paranoid enough to > > replace sendmail with qmail/postfix? > > If you're going to use qmail, use qmail-pop3d, which comes with the qmail > distribution. > Using qmail-pop3d also assumes that you're using the Maildir mailbox format. If you're switching from sendmail to qmail and haven't switched mailbox formats, this won't work for you. - chris -- Christopher Uy U S WEST Internet Services Systems Engineer 600 Stinson Blvd. 3S E-mail: cuy@uswest.net Minneapolis, MN 55413 "My earliest memory of dodgeball is getting hit in the chest so hard, my nose started bleeding..." -- Fellow co-worker To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 22 6:39:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from al.san.ru (al.san.ru [194.87.134.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B83437B5C6 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 06:39:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from al@al.san.ru) Received: (from al@localhost) by al.san.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00982 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:36:09 +0300 (MSK) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:36:09 +0300 From: Alexander Latukhin To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Two interfaces with one IP Message-ID: <20000322173609.A938@al.san.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello dear FreeBSD-ISP, I faced with a strange thing today - one of our servers start to write "... /kernel: arp: XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX is using my IP address X.X.X.X!" from time to time on the console. This XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX is NOT from our LAN. We have several clients on sync/async connections to our Cisco routers. When normal operation conditions the server in question is ping'ed with 0.3 - 0.4 ms, when another interface try to use his IP this time increases up to 44 - 60 ms. That makes me think that a part (or whole) of traffic goes the wrong way. Did anyone faced the same/similar problem? Any comments/help/advices would be greatly appreciated. Alex ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RUSSIA, e-mail: al@san.ru Saratov Telecom, Alexander Latukhin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 22 6:51:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A342737B56B for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 06:51:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA20093; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:51:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:51:04 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Hovey To: Alexander Latukhin Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Two interfaces with one IP In-Reply-To: <20000322173609.A938@al.san.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ive seen this kinda thing when either someone misconfigured a local workstation, or when a device doing proxy arp (like a switch) errently sent out arps for that IP (A client once had a switch go ballistic and broadcast that it was all the IPs it could see on any of its ports, to all of the other ports) On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Alexander Latukhin wrote: > Hello dear FreeBSD-ISP, > > I faced with a strange thing today - one of our servers start to > write "... /kernel: arp: XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX is using my IP address X.X.X.X!" > from time to time on the console. This XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX is NOT from > our LAN. We have several clients on sync/async connections to our Cisco > routers. When normal operation conditions the server in question is > ping'ed with 0.3 - 0.4 ms, when another interface try to use his IP this > time increases up to 44 - 60 ms. That makes me think that a part (or whole) > of traffic goes the wrong way. Did anyone faced the same/similar problem? > > Any comments/help/advices would be greatly appreciated. > > Alex > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > RUSSIA, e-mail: al@san.ru > Saratov Telecom, > Alexander Latukhin > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 22 23: 3:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from super-g.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B1D37B7D9 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 23:03:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: by super-g.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C6752B41F; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 02:03:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B1223B418; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 02:03:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 02:03:42 -0500 (EST) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: Alexander Latukhin Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Two interfaces with one IP In-Reply-To: <20000322173609.A938@al.san.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Any chance any of the routers are bridging rather than routing? That would explain the console message and the 44-60ms ping time... Charles On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Alexander Latukhin wrote: > Hello dear FreeBSD-ISP, > > I faced with a strange thing today - one of our servers start to > write "... /kernel: arp: XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX is using my IP address X.X.X.X!" > from time to time on the console. This XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX is NOT from > our LAN. We have several clients on sync/async connections to our Cisco > routers. When normal operation conditions the server in question is > ping'ed with 0.3 - 0.4 ms, when another interface try to use his IP this > time increases up to 44 - 60 ms. That makes me think that a part (or whole) > of traffic goes the wrong way. Did anyone faced the same/similar problem? > > Any comments/help/advices would be greatly appreciated. > > Alex > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > RUSSIA, e-mail: al@san.ru > Saratov Telecom, > Alexander Latukhin > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 23 0:38:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3DB37BA76; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:38:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA07283; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 02:38:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-87.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.87) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma007281; Thu Mar 23 02:38:26 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000323022726.00bd1860@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 02:38:14 -0600 To: "Daniel O'Callaghan" From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: ispsetup (was: Re: FreeBSD in Dixons) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, Dominik Brettnacher In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 10:06 AM 3/21/00 +1100, Daniel O'Callaghan wrote: >That's my feeling. It's especially sad to twiddle one's thumbs and listen >to the disk crunching while it unpacks the korean, japanese, russian, >graphics and many other ports sections which I am never going to use. >Repeating the exercise for all the ISPs in the world would be suboptimal, >to say the least. Why not: gunzip ports.tgz tar --delete -f ports.tar ports/chinese ports/german \ ports/japanese ports/korean ports/russian ports/vietnamese gzip ports.tar mv ports.tar.gz ports.tgz sh install.sh Consider other branches that are not wanted. Mine is quite a bit smaller. -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 8988928 Mar 15 03:06 ../4.0-RELEASE/ports/ports.tgz -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3746280 Mar 20 18:53 ports.tgz Use my sup/*/refuse files to trim out what I don't want after pulling out the categories that I don't want. Still takes about 12 minutes, but gave up well over a year ago on using the whole damn thing. More to trim out, but haven't got around to that yet. Still would like to set it broken into categories rather than lumped. More friendly, less filling. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 23 0:43:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629E537B934 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:43:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA07316; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 02:41:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-87.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.87) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma007314; Thu Mar 23 02:40:52 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000323023907.00bd3cf0@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 02:40:40 -0600 To: Dominik Brettnacher From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: ispsetup (was: Re: FreeBSD in Dixons) Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 06:43 AM 3/21/00 +0100, Dominik Brettnacher wrote: >That's why I install the Ports Collection in background after having >installed FreeBSD. FreeBSD's multitasking is quite good :) Yeah, but disk IO is a bottleneck, so I walk away. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 23 1: 4:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from al.san.ru (al.san.ru [194.87.134.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C775A37C3FF for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 01:04:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from al@al.san.ru) Received: (from al@localhost) by al.san.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA01285; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:59:06 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:59:06 +0300 From: Alexander Latukhin To: spork Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Two interfaces with one IP Message-ID: <20000323115906.A1271@al.san.ru> References: <20000322173609.A938@al.san.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from spork@super-g.com on Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 02:03:42AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thank you Charles, I found where problem is - one of our client misconfigured his workstation. Anyway, thank you for your input. Alex On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 02:03:42AM -0500, spork wrote: > Any chance any of the routers are bridging rather than routing? That > would explain the console message and the 44-60ms ping time... > > Charles > > On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Alexander Latukhin wrote: > > > Hello dear FreeBSD-ISP, > > > > I faced with a strange thing today - one of our servers start to > > write "... /kernel: arp: XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX is using my IP address X.X.X.X!" > > from time to time on the console. This XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX is NOT from > > our LAN. We have several clients on sync/async connections to our Cisco > > routers. When normal operation conditions the server in question is > > ping'ed with 0.3 - 0.4 ms, when another interface try to use his IP this > > time increases up to 44 - 60 ms. That makes me think that a part (or whole) > > of traffic goes the wrong way. Did anyone faced the same/similar problem? > > > > Any comments/help/advices would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Alex > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > RUSSIA, e-mail: al@san.ru > > Saratov Telecom, > > Alexander Latukhin > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 23 1:26:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc2.on.home.com (ha1.rdc2.on.home.com [24.9.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A1437B60A; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 01:26:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jr.fpa@home.com) Received: from optimus ([24.64.180.225]) by mail.rdc2.on.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with SMTP id <20000323092645.IGHW12504.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@optimus>; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 01:26:45 -0800 Message-Id: <4.1.20000323033137.00a06da0@mail> X-Sender: jr.fpa@mail X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 04:28:00 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Frank A Subject: Virtual servers Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello All: I was looking into setting up Virtual machine environement for some customers on a machine of mine. I am a true believer in FreeBSD and am 100% sure that this can be done. I looked through the mailing list archive and found that Vitual Machines can be done. It involves making changes in the /etc/services and a few other changes. This emaal archinve was a little to vague for me, and I did not get the whole picture. I would like people to be able to telnet to there IP address and make changes, have there own password file so that they can add whatever users they want so they can have any email address/username they want for their domain. I found documentation that is very good on setting up WU-FTP for Virtual domains with chroot, but I need to figure out the telnet and web hosting part of it so that each user can have their own slice of the machine, and add whatever usernames they want to add. If anyone knows of anywhere I can read socumentation on the subject, Or if someone can take the time to go through the steps in a little detail for me to follow, I would be forever greatful. Thank you to all that reply in advance Frank Auciello To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 23 5:59:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.vest.net (mail.vest.net [195.54.79.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25EDC37B6E5; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 05:59:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pm@stripe.dk) Received: from stripe.dk (per.vestnet.dk [195.54.79.55]) by mail.vest.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08444; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:00:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pm@stripe.dk) Message-ID: <38DA319C.4AC963CC@stripe.dk> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:00:44 +0000 From: Per Moeller X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Hardware Raid controllers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It seems to me that the only usable raid controller for FreeBSD is the DPT series, and thoose who are supported are totally outdated. As we are only using IBM Netfinity 5500 servers, and their serveRAID controller are not supported, as it is in Linux. However fitting the servers with another controller is not a problem, and we would WERY much like to use FreeBSD because of the reliability and performance. So, is it totally impossible to get a fast hardware RAID controller (running RAID-5) for FreeBSD??? Do I really have to use an OS that I don't trust to run our services??? HELP! // Per Moller / System Administrator / VestNet Denmark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 23 6: 2:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from d016.gold.gellivare.se (comnix.com [195.196.65.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 06B1A37C488 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 06:02:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john@veidit.net) Received: (qmail 31515 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2000 14:02:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO veidit.net) (193.44.56.36) by comnix.com with SMTP; 23 Mar 2000 14:02:01 -0000 Message-ID: <38DA2403.63343ACE@veidit.net> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:02:43 +0100 From: John Angelmo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: sv, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD ISP Subject: serverside DNS and DHCP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi again :-) I need to set the DNS server side in my ppp config I know that there is a MS serverside dns thin in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf is this right? ms-dns=192.168.1.1 and setting up DHCP is this the right way if I want to share 10 adresses? set ifaddr 192.168.1.5 192.168.1.15 /John Angelmo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 23 6:24:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.freebsd.org.uk [194.242.139.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED0B37C470 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 06:24:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (tun.AwfulHak.org [194.242.139.173]) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA86035; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:24:16 GMT (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03978; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:24:13 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200003231424.OAA03978@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: John Angelmo Cc: FreeBSD ISP , brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: serverside DNS and DHCP In-Reply-To: Message from John Angelmo of "Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:02:43 +0100." <38DA2403.63343ACE@veidit.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:24:13 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi again :-) > > I need to set the DNS server side in my ppp config > > I know that there is a MS serverside dns thin in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf > is this right? > ms-dns=192.168.1.1 If you want to allow clients to discover your DNSs, add accept dns If you want to override the addresses in /etc/resolv.conf, use set dns 1.2.3.4 5.6.7.8 > and setting up DHCP is this the right way if I want to share 10 > adresses? > set ifaddr 192.168.1.5 192.168.1.15 DHCP is a different thing. If you want to assign the client an address between 192.168.1.5 and 192.168.1.15 (and your address is 192.168.1.1) use set ifaddr 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.5-192.168.1.15 You should re-read the descriptions at the end of the ppp(8) man page - all this stuff is described reasonably well. > /John Angelmo -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 23 6:55:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tgn2.tgn.net (tgn2.tgn.net [205.241.85.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5A537B5A5 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 06:55:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@tgn.net) Received: from murphy42.tgn.net (murphy42.tgn.net [209.127.44.42]) by tgn2.tgn.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA20260 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 08:57:16 -0600 (CST) From: Michael Butler To: Subject: Re: Multihoming Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 08:54:26 -0600 Organization: Never been. Reply-To: mike@tgn.net Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:25:12 +0800, you wrote: >Michael, > >I do have my own portable address space, I cannot apply for an ASN until= I >am ready to proceed - I guess this is to stop people applying who then = do >not go ahead with the BGP routing. Is this right? It seems almost a chicken and egg thing to get the address space and ASN. Can someone explain the process to me in plain English?=20 It seems I have to justify my address space as it exists now to get new address space.=20 To get an ASN I have to have the quandary exist where I have access to two or more providers and need to BGP4 to/from them. So I have to invest in the infrastructure and get the feeds and then wait until I get all the ARIN stuff lined out? I'd much prefer to be prepared when the equipment and feeds come together since that investment is greater and would be less desirable to be without function (hardware and feeds not working for me and indirectly making money).=20 ... or am I just screwed up and confused? ____________________________________________________________ Michael Butler, Texas GulfNet, | www.tgn.net =20 908 South Brooks, PO Box 2089 | Voice 409-798-NETT Brazoria, TX 77422-2089 | FAX 409-798-6398 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 23 7:34:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from defiant.quansoo.com (defiant.quansoo.com [63.66.225.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9AA737B78D; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 07:34:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cgriffiths@quansoo.com) Received: from localhost (cgriffiths@localhost) by defiant.quansoo.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01032; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:33:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cgriffiths@quansoo.com) X-Authentication-Warning: defiant.quansoo.com: cgriffiths owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:33:49 -0500 (EST) From: "Christopher T. Griffiths" To: Per Moeller Cc: FreeBSD Questions List , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hardware Raid controllers In-Reply-To: <38DA319C.4AC963CC@stripe.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Might I suggest the Compaq 3200 Array Controller. I saw someone on these lists was using it in an IBM Server a few weeks back. I have several of these working here and they are wonderful. Chris On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, Per Moeller wrote: > It seems to me that the only usable raid controller for FreeBSD is the DPT series, and thoose who are supported are totally > outdated. > > As we are only using IBM Netfinity 5500 servers, and their serveRAID controller are not supported, as it is in Linux. However > fitting the servers with another controller is not a problem, and we would WERY much like to use FreeBSD because of the > reliability and performance. > > So, is it totally impossible to get a fast hardware RAID controller (running RAID-5) for FreeBSD??? > > Do I really have to use an OS that I don't trust to run our services??? > > HELP! > > // Per Moller / System Administrator / VestNet Denmark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 23 9:36:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from skynet.simkin.com (skynet.simkin.com [199.175.137.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A073637B914 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:36:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ahodgson@simkin.com) Received: (qmail 10157 invoked by uid 501); 23 Mar 2000 17:36:40 -0000 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:36:40 -0800 From: Alan Hodgson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardware Raid controllers Message-ID: <20000323093640.E9661@simkin.com> Reply-To: Alan Hodgson References: <38DA319C.4AC963CC@stripe.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <38DA319C.4AC963CC@stripe.dk>; from Per Moeller on Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 03:00:44PM +0000 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.5-22smp Organization: none I want to admit to Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 03:00:44PM +0000, Per Moeller wrote: > It seems to me that the only usable raid controller for FreeBSD is the DPT series, and thoose who are supported are totally > outdated. > Recent Mylex controllers are supported. I have a 3.4 system running on an AcceleRaid 250 which seems fine (been up for 6 weeks or so since I built it). 4.0's supposed to be able to boot off those controllers, though I haven't tried it. -- I don't get even, I get odder. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 23 9:52:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E565737BB45 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:52:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.9.2/8.9.3) with UUCP id SAA56912; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 18:51:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA32642; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 18:51:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 18:51:00 +0100 (CET) From: Leif Neland To: Frank A Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Virtual servers In-Reply-To: <4.1.20000323033137.00a06da0@mail> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, Frank A wrote: > Hello All: > > I was looking into setting up Virtual machine environement for some > customers on a machine of mine. I am a true believer in FreeBSD and am > 100% sure that this can be done. I looked through the mailing list archive > and found that Vitual Machines can be done. It involves making changes in > the /etc/services and a few other changes. This emaal archinve was a > little to vague for me, and I did not get the whole picture. > > I would like people to be able to telnet to there IP address and make > changes, have there own password file so that they can add whatever users > they want so they can have any email address/username they want for their > domain. > If the only reason for this exercise is to give the clients ability to create their own set of email-adresses, I would rather make a web-based database of the users. Then regularly create an aliases and virtusertable from that database. Another option: If you pre-make say 100 users: acme001 to acme100, I bet you can even restrict webmin so they only can make aliaseses in their own domain. Perhaps you can't prevent them from aliasing an emailadress in their domain to an username in another domain, eg info@acme.com -> sam002, but that's their priviledge to give mail away :-) They can't steal other domain's mail. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 23 10:18:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cpq.nyi.net (cpq.nyi.net [204.248.157.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A4237BD13 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:18:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from javier@nyi.net) Received: from nyi.net (root@cpq.nyi.net [204.248.157.72]) by cpq.nyi.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09247; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:16:07 GMT (envelope-from javier@nyi.net) Message-ID: <38DA1917.CFD03E2@nyi.net> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:16:07 +0000 From: Javier Frias Organization: NYI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leif Neland Cc: Frank A , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Virtual servers References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org That's pretty damn cumbersome just for offering web based e-mail management. Take a look at vpopmail + qmailadmin http://www.inter7.com/vpopmail As fas as the virtual servers issue.... take a look at the new jail() system in 4.x -Hope that helps Leif Neland wrote: > > On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, Frank A wrote: > > > Hello All: > > > > I was looking into setting up Virtual machine environement for some > > customers on a machine of mine. I am a true believer in FreeBSD and am > > 100% sure that this can be done. I looked through the mailing list archive > > and found that Vitual Machines can be done. It involves making changes in > > the /etc/services and a few other changes. This emaal archinve was a > > little to vague for me, and I did not get the whole picture. > > > > I would like people to be able to telnet to there IP address and make > > changes, have there own password file so that they can add whatever users > > they want so they can have any email address/username they want for their > > domain. > > > > If the only reason for this exercise is to give the clients ability to > create their own set of email-adresses, I would rather make a web-based > database of the users. Then regularly create an aliases and virtusertable > from that database. > > Another option: > If you pre-make say 100 users: acme001 to acme100, I bet you can even > restrict webmin so they only can make aliaseses in their own domain. > > Perhaps you can't prevent them from aliasing an emailadress in their > domain to an username in another domain, eg info@acme.com -> sam002, but > that's their priviledge to give mail away :-) They can't steal other > domain's mail. > > Leif > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- MMM \|/ www __^__ (o o) @ @ (O-O) /(o o)\ -ooO-(_)-Ooo---oOO-(_)-OOo---oOO--(_)--OOo---oOO==(_)==OOo Javier A. Frias Sr. System Administrator The New York Internet Company 20 Exchange Place 21st Floor New York, N.Y. 10005 "Error #152 - Windows not found: (C)heer (P)arty (D)ance" --------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 23 11:22:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from matthew.uk1.vbc.net (matthew.uk1.vbc.net [194.207.2.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A7E37C51F; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:22:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdd@vbc.net) Received: from localhost (jdd@localhost) by matthew.uk1.vbc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA57463; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:22:00 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: matthew.uk1.vbc.net: jdd owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:22:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Jim Dixon X-Sender: jdd@matthew.uk1.vbc.net To: Alan Hodgson Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hardware Raid controllers In-Reply-To: <20000323093640.E9661@simkin.com> Message-ID: X-NCC-RegID: uk.vbcnet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, Alan Hodgson wrote: > > It seems to me that the only usable raid controller for FreeBSD is the DPT series, and thoose who are supported are totally > > outdated. > > Recent Mylex controllers are supported. I have a 3.4 system running on an > AcceleRaid 250 which seems fine (been up for 6 weeks or so since I built it). > > 4.0's supposed to be able to boot off those controllers, though I haven't > tried it. Do you have to have a Windows slice to configure the Mylex controller, or can it be configured from FreeBSD? -- Jim Dixon VBCnet GB Ltd http://www.vbc.net tel +44 117 929 1316 fax +44 117 927 2015 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 23 12:38:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from skynet.simkin.com (skynet.simkin.com [199.175.137.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6BFC137C5C4 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 12:38:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ahodgson@simkin.com) Received: (qmail 12422 invoked by uid 501); 23 Mar 2000 20:38:29 -0000 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 12:38:29 -0800 From: Alan Hodgson To: Jim Dixon Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hardware Raid controllers Message-ID: <20000323123829.B11436@simkin.com> Reply-To: Alan Hodgson References: <20000323093640.E9661@simkin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Jim Dixon on Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 07:22:00PM +0000 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.5-22smp Organization: none I want to admit to Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 07:22:00PM +0000, Jim Dixon wrote: > Do you have to have a Windows slice to configure the Mylex controller, > or can it be configured from FreeBSD? The RAID configuration is done via the card BIOS. No Windoze required, or even a DOS floppy like the DPT SmartRAID IV's require. -- Do not meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, for they are easy to annoy and have the root password. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 23 13:41: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from riga.nu (riga.nu.138.62.195.in-addr.arpa [195.62.138.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 49ABF37C553 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:40:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from viktors@riga.nu) Received: (qmail 71344 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2000 21:39:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO riga.nu) (159.148.169.200) by riga.nu with SMTP; 23 Mar 2000 21:39:58 -0000 Message-ID: <38DA8F29.D3CBE71F@riga.nu> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:39:53 +0200 From: Viktors Rotanovs Organization: DATIONS Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-20000208-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: divert socket -- am i doing something wrong? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello! Maybe not exactly for this list, but... I wrote a piece of code like this: 8<------------------------------------------------------------- tee = socket(PF_INET, SOCK_RAW, IPPROTO_DIVERT); addr.sin_family = AF_INET; addr.sin_addr.s_addr = INADDR_ANY; addr.sin_port = 30000; bind(tee, (struct sockaddr *)&addr, sizeof(addr)); fds[0].fd = tee; fds[0].events = POLLIN | POLLRDNORM | POLLRDBAND | POLLPRI; poll(fds, 1, 1000000); 8<------------------------------------------------------------- and than run this command: /sbin/ipfw add 1 tee 30000 all from any to any via lo0 and pinged localhost.. and poll() didn't return anything before timeout! anyone has any ideas what's wrong? Best Wishes, Viktors Rotanovs To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 23 13:53: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from PacHell.TelcoSucks.org (PacHell.TelcoSucks.org [207.90.181.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4869C37C6C9; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:52:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ulf@PacHell.TelcoSucks.org) Received: (from ulf@localhost) by PacHell.TelcoSucks.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA05492; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:52:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ulf) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:52:09 -0800 From: Ulf Zimmermann To: Alan Hodgson Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hardware Raid controllers Message-ID: <20000323135208.K95709@PacHell.TelcoSucks.org> Reply-To: ulf@Alameda.net References: <38DA319C.4AC963CC@stripe.dk> <20000323093640.E9661@simkin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000323093640.E9661@simkin.com>; from ahodgson@simkin.com on Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 09:36:40AM -0800 Organization: Alameda Networks, Inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 09:36:40AM -0800, Alan Hodgson wrote: > On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 03:00:44PM +0000, Per Moeller wrote: > > It seems to me that the only usable raid controller for FreeBSD is the DPT series, and thoose who are supported are totally > > outdated. > > > > Recent Mylex controllers are supported. I have a 3.4 system running on an > AcceleRaid 250 which seems fine (been up for 6 weeks or so since I built it). > > 4.0's supposed to be able to boot off those controllers, though I haven't > tried it. I have a new system, running 4.0-RC3 (right now) with a Mylex AcceleRaid 250. It boots of that controller and runs fine in Raid 5. > > -- > I don't get even, I get odder. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Regards, Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 Alameda Networks, Inc. | http://www.Alameda.net | Fax#: 510-521-5073 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 23 13:53:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from PacHell.TelcoSucks.org (PacHell.TelcoSucks.org [207.90.181.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B7137C737; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:53:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ulf@PacHell.TelcoSucks.org) Received: (from ulf@localhost) by PacHell.TelcoSucks.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA05502; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:53:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ulf) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:53:07 -0800 From: Ulf Zimmermann To: Jim Dixon Cc: Alan Hodgson , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hardware Raid controllers Message-ID: <20000323135307.L95709@PacHell.TelcoSucks.org> Reply-To: ulf@Alameda.net References: <20000323093640.E9661@simkin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from jdd@vbc.net on Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 07:22:00PM +0000 Organization: Alameda Networks, Inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 07:22:00PM +0000, Jim Dixon wrote: > On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, Alan Hodgson wrote: > > > > It seems to me that the only usable raid controller for FreeBSD is the DPT series, and thoose who are supported are totally > > > outdated. > > > > Recent Mylex controllers are supported. I have a 3.4 system running on an > > AcceleRaid 250 which seems fine (been up for 6 weeks or so since I built it). > > > > 4.0's supposed to be able to boot off those controllers, though I haven't > > tried it. > > Do you have to have a Windows slice to configure the Mylex controller, > or can it be configured from FreeBSD? All moderns Mylex, like the AcceleRaid have their config software in the bios. You do not need a Dos partition. Older controllers, the config software fits on one floppy and you can boot the floppy to do the config. > > -- > Jim Dixon VBCnet GB Ltd http://www.vbc.net > tel +44 117 929 1316 fax +44 117 927 2015 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Regards, Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 Alameda Networks, Inc. | http://www.Alameda.net | Fax#: 510-521-5073 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 23 14:34:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kaon.intercom.com (kaon.intercom.com [198.143.3.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0738937C59D; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:33:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jason@intercom.com) Received: from shagalicious.com ([206.98.165.250] helo=intercom.com) by kaon.intercom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12YGAB-00015A-00; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:33:11 -0500 Message-ID: <38DA9CFB.D3C526C2@intercom.com> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:38:51 -0500 From: "Jason J. Horton" Organization: Intercom Online Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hardware Raid controllers References: <38DA319C.4AC963CC@stripe.dk> <20000323093640.E9661@simkin.com> <20000323135208.K95709@PacHell.TelcoSucks.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone know if the HP NetRAID series of cards is supported? I am having a hard time finding any information about these cards on the HP site, let alone tech info like chipset. Wondering if this card would be a good RAID1 card for our HP NetServer LPr's... can you boot off of a RAID1 vinum setup yet? -- -Jason J. Horton Fat Man in a Little Coat Intercom Online Inc. 212.376.7440 ext 21 | http://www.intercom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 23 15:48:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail0.mco.bellsouth.net (mail0.mco.bellsouth.net [205.152.111.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708B037C4DA for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:48:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bryanb@walls-media.com) Received: from bryannthome (adsl-77-254-29.bhm.bellsouth.net [216.77.254.29]) by mail0.mco.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with SMTP id SAA07099 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 18:48:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001501bf9522$3c97c7f0$1dfe4dd8@bhm.bellsouth.net> From: "Bryan Bunch" To: Subject: SMTP Auth Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:48:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone successfully gotten SMTP Auth to work with sendmail-8.10.0? I can get both Cyrus SASL and sendmail to build, but when I start sendmail I get the following in my syslog: unable to dlopen /usr/lib/sasl/libdigestmd5.so: /usr/local/lib/libcry pto.so.1: Undefined symbol "ERR_load_RSAREF_strings" Any ideas? I am running 3.4-STABLE. Thanks for any help. Bryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 23 17:16:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from frontier.netnology.com.au (frontier.netnology.com.au [203.33.30.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3716B37B942 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:16:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craig@hotmix.com.au) Received: from marvin ([203.33.30.209]) by frontier.netnology.com.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA05548; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:00:01 +0800 From: "Craig Beasland" To: Cc: Subject: RE: Multihoming Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:09:11 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael, I understood that you could apply before you multi-home but after the arrangements have been made. That is, you have signed a deal with a second provider and have the equipment on order and have defined your routing policies, but before you actually plug the equipment in. Then again, I think it was me who started this thread so I am not really the person to rely upon for this advice. Cheers craig > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Michael Butler > Sent: Thursday, 23 March 2000 22:54 > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Multihoming > > > On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:25:12 +0800, you wrote: > > >Michael, > > > >I do have my own portable address space, I cannot apply for > an ASN until I > >am ready to proceed - I guess this is to stop people > applying who then do > >not go ahead with the BGP routing. > > > Is this right? It seems almost a chicken and egg thing to get the > address space and ASN. Can someone explain the process to me in plain > English? > > It seems I have to justify my address space as it exists now to get > new address space. > > To get an ASN I have to have the quandary exist where I have access to > two or more providers and need to BGP4 to/from them. So I have to > invest in the infrastructure and get the feeds and then wait until I > get all the ARIN stuff lined out? > > I'd much prefer to be prepared when the equipment and feeds come > together since that investment is greater and would be less desirable > to be without function (hardware and feeds not working for me and > indirectly making money). > > > ... or am I just screwed up and confused? > ____________________________________________________________ > Michael Butler, Texas GulfNet, | www.tgn.net > 908 South Brooks, PO Box 2089 | Voice 409-798-NETT > Brazoria, TX 77422-2089 | FAX 409-798-6398 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 23 23:34:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web3706.mail.yahoo.com (web3706.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F195037B815 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:34:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hiwaygao@yahoo.com.cn) Message-ID: <20000324073413.1602.qmail@web3706.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.106.77.129] by web3706.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:34:13 CST Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:34:13 +0800 (CST) From: =?gb2312?q?l=20g?= Subject: SOS!about freebsd core constrution To: questions@FreeBSD.org, alex@big.endian.de, general@freebsdzine.org, jsutton@freebsdzine.org, akorud@polynet.lviv.ua, editors@freebsdzine.org, freebsd-net@freebsd.org, brian@Awfulhak.org, toasty@dragondata.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, wigstah@akitanet.co.uk, sam@errno.com, rik@cronyx.ru, fenner@research.att.com, winter@jurai.net, barney@databus.com, cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com, dermot@mcnally.de, chutima_s@zdnetonebox.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi!every body!I'm a chinese student.I'm learning freebsd,because I have a project about core program.I need a mini core and add something about pppoe,QOS ,other protocol on the base of mini core.but I don't know the constrution of freebsd core and don't know how to add the model of protocol,and how to compile them .If you know the method or way ,please send a help message to hiwaygao@yahoo.com.cn. or If you know other understand it ,please send it .thank you _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? µÇ¼Ãâ·ÑµçÓÊÕʺŠGet your free @yahoo.com.CN address at http://mail.yahoo.com.cn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 24 1:39: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61BA437B6E2; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 01:39:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Stanley.Hopcroft@ipaustralia.gov.au) Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA63238; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 20:38:59 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from Stanley.Hopcroft@ipaustralia.gov.au) X-Authentication-Warning: pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au: smap set sender to using -f Received: from noteshub01.aipo.gov.au(10.0.100.21) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma063234; Fri, 24 Mar 00 20:38:30 +1100 Received: by noteshub01.aipo.gov.au(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (778.2 1-4-1999)) id 4A2568AC.003A75C7 ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 20:38:32 +1000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: IP_AUSTRALIA From: Stanley.Hopcroft@ipaustralia.gov.au To: l g Cc: questions@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4A2568AC.003A74A4.00@noteshub01.aipo.gov.au> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 20:38:28 +1000 Subject: Re: SOS!about freebsd core constrution Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To: l g cc: questions@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org Dear Sir, I am writing to say that you will probably take a lot of heat by broadcasting your question to many many people. If you are interested in the network implementation of FreeBSD, you can look at 1 "The Design and Implementation of the 4.4 BSD Operating system", McKusick et al, AW '96 2 "TCP/IP Illustrated, Volume 1 and 2 (code)" W R Stevens AW 3 the source code of programs with names like tcp icmp ip in /usr/src/sys of a FreeBSD host with the system source code installed More general works include "Unix Network Programming" by W R Stevens. Other than that I am not sure of what you mean by "core". Yours sincerely. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 24 2:21:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ffm.plusline.de (mail.ffm.plusline.de [212.19.48.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8272337B54B for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 02:21:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rg@plusline.net) Received: from plusline.net (schafftauchnix.plusline.de [212.19.48.65]) by mail.ffm.plusline.de (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA24143 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 11:21:39 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <38DB41B0.4494F499@plusline.net> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 11:21:36 +0100 From: Richard Gresek Reply-To: rg@plusline.net Organization: Plus.line GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: BGP Tools on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Are there any tools available to manage an ISP's BGP filters automatically - that is to query the public routing registries and setup the appropriate 'as-path access lists' for Cisco routers? Kind regards Richard Gresek -- ==================> Plus.line <======================= Plus.Line Systemhaus GmbH Tel.: +49 69 7589150 Mainzer Lstr. 224 Fax : +49 69 75891533 D-60327 Frankfurt http://www.plusline.net ==================> Plus.line <======================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 24 5:57:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from riga.nu (riga.nu.138.62.195.in-addr.arpa [195.62.138.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E9BC37B623 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 05:57:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from viktors@riga.nu) Received: (qmail 87563 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2000 13:57:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO riga.nu) (159.148.169.200) by riga.nu with SMTP; 24 Mar 2000 13:57:22 -0000 Message-ID: <38DB7441.A4E24F2E@riga.nu> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:57:21 +0200 From: Viktors Rotanovs Organization: DATIONS Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-20000208-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: divert sockets -- nightmare continues! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------CC9A9230C8E3723EE0686377" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------CC9A9230C8E3723EE0686377 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello! Now I have following: when i ipfw tee something to a port, IT STOPS ROUTING AT ALL! when i remove tee, everything starts to work as usual. Where's the problem? Sorry for previous post, already solved the problem (hint: don't forget to use htons()) Best Wishes, Viktors Rotanovs DATIONS Ltd., phone: +371 9173000, fax: +371 7377472 --------------CC9A9230C8E3723EE0686377 Content-Type: text/html; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 
Hello!

Now I have following:
when i ipfw tee something to a port, IT
STOPS ROUTING AT ALL! when i remove
tee, everything starts to work as usual.
Where's the problem?

Sorry for previous post, already solved the
problem (hint: don't forget to use htons())

Best Wishes,
Viktors Rotanovs

DATIONS Ltd., phone: +371 9173000, fax: +371 7377472
  --------------CC9A9230C8E3723EE0686377-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 24 6:27:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from newyork.tycosweb.com (newyork.tycosweb.com [209.8.205.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E9D537B542 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 06:27:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: (qmail 29102 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2000 14:29:11 -0000 Received: from adsl-151-202-97-230.bellatlantic.net (HELO simon) (151.202.97.230) by newyork.tycosweb.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2000 14:29:11 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "isp@freebsd.org" Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:30:20 -0500 Reply-To: "Simon" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 98 (4.10.1998) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Serve millions of a hits a day? Message-Id: <20000324142740.1E9D537B542@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm looking for someone I could talk to about freebsd (software/hardware) and how it performs under heavy loads; someone with a lot of experience with boxes that server 2+million web hits/day. If you are willing to help me out, please contact me off list (via email). Thanks, -Simon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 24 7:45:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from relay.stylo.it (relay.stylo.it [193.76.98.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402F237B78D; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 07:44:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aturetta@rainbownet.com) Received: from styloserver.stylo.it (styloserver.stylo.it [193.76.98.3]) by relay.stylo.it (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA29524; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:44:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from aturetta@rainbownet.com) Received: by styloserver.stylo.it with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:44:06 +0100 Message-ID: <210F5CDE0707D211B4BD00062905C842114E76@styloserver.stylo.it> From: Angelo Turetta To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" , "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: Routing question (not strictly FBSD) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:44:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry if this may be considered off-topic. We are going to change our internet connection provider, so during the migration we'll have two class C networks, and two leased lines. Of course we'll be renumbering our servers as soon as possible, but that cannot be done in a single step. My router is a FreeBSD machine with a dual port ET-PCISync adapter, and from the hardware point of view I have no problems. Maybe someone can answer this question about routing software: is there any way to determine which interface to route outgoing IP packets via, based on source address of the packet itself? Let me try to explain better with an example. Our servers have addresses in the range 1.1.1.x, but will be renumbered to 2.2.2.x. Assuming the use of a single router with two point-to-point interfaces called A and B, is there any method by which I can send all packets originating from, lets say, 1.1.1.16 via interface A, and all packets originating from 2.2.2.32 via interface B? Copy replies to my direct address, I don't receive this list. Thanks for any help. Angelo Turetta. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 24 7:48:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from fastlane.net (fastlane.net [209.197.224.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9B537B506 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 07:48:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from charnock@fastlane.net) Received: from fastlane.net (fastlane.net [209.197.224.10]) by fastlane.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09758; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:48:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:48:05 -0600 (CST) From: "William R. Charnock" To: Richard Gresek Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BGP Tools on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <38DB41B0.4494F499@plusline.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try the RAToolset - you can download a copy at www.radb.net I believe. Works like a charm. Note: I don't believe it will manage as-path access lists. It creates extended ACL's or prefix-lists based on the route entries, as objects, and as-set objects that are registered in the database you are querying, and then uses route-maps to apply them. On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, Richard Gresek wrote: > Are there any tools available to manage an ISP's BGP > filters automatically - that is to query the public > routing registries and setup the appropriate > 'as-path access lists' for Cisco routers? > > Kind regards > > Richard Gresek > > -- > ==================> Plus.line <======================= > > Plus.Line Systemhaus GmbH Tel.: +49 69 7589150 > Mainzer Lstr. 224 Fax : +49 69 75891533 > D-60327 Frankfurt http://www.plusline.net > > ==================> Plus.line <======================= > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -- William Charnock Sr. Backbone Engineer Allegiance Telecom, Inc. (214).261.8661 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 24 10:28:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hindenburg.eboai.org (hindenburg.eboai.org [205.181.254.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32BA37B9D5 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:28:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chip@eboai.org) Received: by hindenburg.eboai.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 156553D1F; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:28:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:28:09 -0500 From: Chip Marshall To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: divert sockets -- nightmare continues! Message-ID: <20000324132809.A10601@hindenburg.eboai.org> Reply-To: chip@eboai.org References: <38DB7441.A4E24F2E@riga.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.4i In-Reply-To: <38DB7441.A4E24F2E@riga.nu>; from viktors@riga.nu on Fri, Mar 24, 2000 at 03:57:21PM +0200 X-Real-OS: FreeBSD hindenburg.eboai.org 3.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Mar 24, 2000 at 03:57:21PM +0200, Viktors Rotanovs wrote: > Now I have following: > when i ipfw tee something to a port, IT > STOPS ROUTING AT ALL! when i remove > tee, everything starts to work as usual. > Where's the problem? Could your problem be related to how tee accepts the packet it matches automatically without going through the rest of the ipfw rules? or have the fixed that in 4.0-RELEASE? -- Chip Marshall http://www.chocobo.cx/chip/ InterNIC handle - CLM21 PGP key available on my web page On IRC via EFnet as Magus -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCM/CS d+(-) s+:++ a--- C++(+++) UB++++ P+++>$ L- E--- W++ N+(++) o K? w O M+ V- PS PE Y? PGP++ t+@ 5 X(+) R>+ t+() b+>++ DI++++ D(-) G e>++ h!>++ r--- y ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 24 19:29:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mout02.kundenserver.de (mout02.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8403C37B64E for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 19:28:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chrisse@schlund.de) Received: from [195.20.224.75] (helo=mrelay00.kundenserver.de) by mout02.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 12Xmlg-0006Ul-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:09:56 +0100 Received: from admin.schlund.de ([195.20.224.100]) by mrelay00.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 12Xmld-0006G1-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:09:53 +0100 Received: from chrisse (helo=localhost) by admin.schlund.de with local-smtp (Exim 2.11 #1) id 12Xmlc-0004KC-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:09:52 +0100 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:09:52 +0100 (CET) From: Christian Schneider To: FreeBSD ISP ML Subject: SMP on Compaq ProLiant 1850R Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I build a customized kernel (FreeBSD 3.4) to enable SMP on a Compaq ProLiant 1850R with 2 Pentium III 500. I followed the instructions in the FreeBSD handbook and searched the newsgroups for further advice. But the SMP won=B4t boot! It simply stopped booting when the root device is changed to the first partition of the RAID. The last 5 lines on the screen look like this: APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery APIC_IO: routing 8254 via pin 2 Waiting 15 secondes for SCSI devices to settle SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched changing root device to wd0s1a That=B4s it. I changed the OS Type via the SmartStart CD to UnixWare 7 before I build the new kernel (found it in the newsgroups). I can restart the server via STRG+ALT+DEL. The screen shows: boot() requested ... and rebooted. What is wrong with my config? Did anybody else use Compaq ProLiant 1850R servers? -- Mit freundlichem Gru=DF aus Karlsruhe Christian Schneider Systemadministration Schlund + Partner AG Tel: 0721/91374-0 Erbprinzenstra=DFe 4 - 12 Fax: 0721/91374-20 76133 Karlsruhe E-Mail: Schneider@schlund.de Traumauto gesucht, und schon gefunden - http://webauto.de Mit WebAuto auf Erfolgskurs - http://roadshow.webauto.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 24 21: 5:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from toto.oz-online.net (toto.oz-online.net [208.149.58.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B336F37B7A2 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 21:05:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chriss@toto.oz-online.net) Received: (qmail 802 invoked by uid 6819); 25 Mar 2000 04:35:17 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Mar 2000 04:35:17 -0000 Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:35:16 -0600 (CST) From: Chriss To: Christian Schneider Cc: FreeBSD ISP ML Subject: Re: SMP on Compaq ProLiant 1850R In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://www.daemonnews.org/200003/cpqraid.html this may be of help Chris Casey Unix Administrator Oz Online Inc. On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Christian Schneider wrote: > I build a customized kernel (FreeBSD 3.4) to enable SMP on a Compaq > ProLiant 1850R with 2 Pentium III 500. I followed the instructions in the > FreeBSD handbook and searched the newsgroups for further advice. >=20 > But the SMP won=B4t boot! It simply stopped booting when the root device = is > changed to the first partition of the RAID. The last 5 lines on the scree= n > look like this: >=20 > APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery > APIC_IO: routing 8254 via pin 2 > Waiting 15 secondes for SCSI devices to settle > SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched > changing root device to wd0s1a >=20 > That=B4s it. I changed the OS Type via the SmartStart CD to UnixWare 7 > before I build the new kernel (found it in the newsgroups). >=20 > I can restart the server via STRG+ALT+DEL. The screen shows: >=20 > boot() requested ... >=20 > and rebooted. What is wrong with my config? >=20 > Did anybody else use Compaq ProLiant 1850R servers? >=20 > -- > Mit freundlichem Gru=DF aus Karlsruhe >=20 > Christian Schneider > Systemadministration >=20 > Schlund + Partner AG Tel: 0721/91374-0 > Erbprinzenstra=DFe 4 - 12 Fax: 0721/91374-20 > 76133 Karlsruhe E-Mail: Schneider@schlund.de >=20 > Traumauto gesucht, und schon gefunden - http://webauto.de > Mit WebAuto auf Erfolgskurs - http://roadshow.webauto.de >=20 >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 24 21:27:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.tcworks.net (ns.tcworks.net [216.61.218.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EDFB37B891 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 21:27:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Received: from tcworks.net (xcess@stuck.sticky.org [216.61.218.6]) by ns.tcworks.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA89029; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 23:24:19 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Message-ID: <38DC4F18.D032FFCA@tcworks.net> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 23:31:04 -0600 From: Chris Cook X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chriss Cc: Christian Schneider , FreeBSD ISP ML Subject: Re: SMP on Compaq ProLiant 1850R References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chriss wrote: > > http://www.daemonnews.org/200003/cpqraid.html > Interesting reading, it says that FreeBSD uses the IDE device vectors with the Compaq RAID controller. I've noticed that FreeBSD's IDE support is quite sluggish in comparison to other *NIX's, I was wondering if fooling FreeBSD into thinking the SCSI drives are IDE dropped the SCSI drives performance to little better than IDE levels? Hope you could understand my question... -- Chris o----< ccook@tcworks.net >----------------------------------------o |Chris Cook - Technician | TCWORKS.NET - http://www.tcworks.net | |The Computer Works | FreeBSD - http://www.freebsd.org | o-----------------------------------------------------------------o To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 25 11:51:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ffm.plusline.de (mail.ffm.plusline.de [212.19.48.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FBA637B9F2 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 11:51:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rg@plusline.net) Received: from plusline.net ([212.19.56.5]) by mail.ffm.plusline.de (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA04152 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 20:51:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <38DD18AA.40EC5F91@plusline.net> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 20:51:06 +0100 From: Richard Gresek Reply-To: rg@plusline.net Organization: Plus.line GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: INDEX File for own packages CD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'd like to prepare a packages CD with certain packages for our admins and would like to be able to use it with /stand/sysinstall. I understand that I will need the file "INDEX" where all of the packages on that CD will be listed with their appropriate catagories. How can I create this file? Is there anything else important when creating the CD with some packages? Thanks! Kind regards Richard Gresek -- ==================> Plus.line <======================= Plus.Line Systemhaus GmbH Tel.: +49 69 7589150 Mainzer Lstr. 224 Fax : +49 69 75891533 D-60327 Frankfurt http://www.plusline.net ==================> Plus.line <======================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 25 20:40:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5720937B652 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 20:40:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA72103; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 22:40:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 22:40:01 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Dillon To: Christian Schneider Cc: FreeBSD ISP ML Subject: Re: SMP on Compaq ProLiant 1850R In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Christian Schneider wrote: > I build a customized kernel (FreeBSD 3.4) to enable SMP on a Compaq > ProLiant 1850R with 2 Pentium III 500. I followed the instructions in the > FreeBSD handbook and searched the newsgroups for further advice. > > But the SMP won´t boot! It simply stopped booting when the root device is > changed to the first partition of the RAID. The last 5 lines on the screen > look like this: > > APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery > APIC_IO: routing 8254 via pin 2 > Waiting 15 secondes for SCSI devices to settle > SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched > changing root device to wd0s1a > > That´s it. I changed the OS Type via the SmartStart CD to UnixWare 7 > before I build the new kernel (found it in the newsgroups). > > I can restart the server via STRG+ALT+DEL. The screen shows: > > boot() requested ... > > and rebooted. What is wrong with my config? > > Did anybody else use Compaq ProLiant 1850R servers? I've done it with a Proliant 3000, which should have an almost identical motherboard (the 1850 uses the same BIOS image, at least). We have an 1850R as well, but it is running NT and only has a single processor, so I couldn't test it out anyway. The trick is to get yourself into the Advanced system setup (CTRL+A at the main system setup menu, IIRC) and set a system type which I don't remember now. :-) For some reason I was never able to do that when booting from the SmartStart CD. I happened to install FreeBSD previously without putting the system partition on the boot disk, so I had to try it using the floppy disks, which I believe worked. I just remember successfully booting an SMP kernel when I temporarily put a second processor in the box and playing around with it for a while. This was a while back with FreeBSD 3.1 or 3.2. You should check the mailing list archives since I'm quite sure this has come up before. -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For Intel x86 and Alpha architectures. 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