From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Apr 30 15:12:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from nhj.nlc.net.au (nhj.nlc.net.au [203.24.133.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7414E37BD4A for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 15:12:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@nlc.net.au) Received: (qmail 27661 invoked from network); 1 May 2000 08:12:50 +1000 Received: from pacer.nlc.net.au (HELO ?hostname?) (203.24.133.16) by nhj.nlc.net.au with SMTP; 1 May 2000 08:12:50 +1000 Received: (qmail 80082 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2000 02:49:48 -0000 Received: from localhost.home (HELO nlc.net.au) (john@127.0.0.1) by localhost.home with SMTP; 15 Apr 2000 02:49:47 -0000 Message-ID: <38F7D8CB.B27A9158@nlc.net.au> Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 12:49:47 +1000 From: John Saunders Organization: NORTHLINK COMMUNICATIONS PTY LTD X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gary D. Margiotta" , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Promise FasTrak 66 IDE RAID References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Gary D. Margiotta" wrote: > Ok, I was flipping through the archives, but wasn't really sure on an > answer about this: > > Does the Fastrak 66 RAID controller work under 4.0 (actually doing > RAID, not just as a UDMA/66 controller)? > > I know support was added for the 'normal' Promise cards with the new ata > driver. However, I didn't see anything mentioned about the Fastrak and > the ability to do IDE RAID. Nope. The "RAID" features of the card are actually done inside the BIOS which of course is only used in a DOS/Windows environment. As far as any UNIX system is concerned, you have an expensive IDE controller, and you need to use something like vinum or ccd anyway. Interestingly, you can modify the normal Promise UDMA/66 card to allow a FLASH upgrade to the Fastrak BIOS software. With this done it becomes a RAID card - under DOS/Windows. Please note that this is highly illegal and not a suggested practice. -- +------------------------------------------------------------+ . | John Saunders - mailto:john@nlc.net.au (EMail) | ,--_|\ | - http://www.nlc.net.au/ (WWW) | / Oz \ | - 02-9489-4932 or 04-1822-3814 (Phone) | \_,--\_/ | NORTHLINK COMMUNICATIONS P/L - Supplying a professional, | v | and above all friendly, internet connection service. | +------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Apr 30 21:13:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1583537B65C; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:13:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA09143; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:13:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA74544; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:13:00 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200005010413.WAA74544@harmony.village.org> To: Brian Reichert Subject: Re: linksys vs cisco Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 28 Apr 2000 20:34:28 EDT." <20000428203428.A18217@numachi.com> References: <20000428203428.A18217@numachi.com> <20000421140700.B3163@numachi.com> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:13:00 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What does ifconfig -a have to say? What ethernet address does it report? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Apr 30 21:51: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CC8D37B874 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:51:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.9.2/8.9.3) with UUCP id GAA05557 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 May 2000 06:50:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA07132 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 06:50:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 06:50:42 +0200 (CEST) From: Leif Neland To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: hello-world in wap Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'd like to learn to make wap-pages, and the best way I find is by example. I have a roxen, apaches and a chillisoft asp-server. Any pointers where to find a good tutorial and/or examples? Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 1 5:38:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from durango.picus.com (durango.picus.com [209.100.20.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 652EA37B74A for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 05:38:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from troy@picus.com) Received: from abyss [209.100.22.254] by durango.picus.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id AAA47FF00C8; Mon, 01 May 2000 08:37:56 -0400 From: "Troy Settle" To: Subject: RE: hello-world in wap Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 08:38:20 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Forgive my ignorance, but what is 'wap' ? -- Troy Settle Network Analyst Picus Communications 540.633.6327 ** -----Original Message----- ** From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG ** [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Leif Neland ** Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 12:51 AM ** To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org ** Subject: hello-world in wap ** ** ** I'd like to learn to make wap-pages, and the best way I find is by ** example. ** ** I have a roxen, apaches and a chillisoft asp-server. ** ** Any pointers where to find a good tutorial and/or examples? ** ** Leif ** ** ** ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ** with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 1 7:43:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from piranha.amis.net (piranha.amis.net [212.18.32.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B276137BD51 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 07:43:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blaz@amis.net) Received: from titanic.medinet.si (titanic.medinet.si [212.18.32.66]) by piranha.amis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4CE5D1E; Mon, 1 May 2000 16:43:47 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 16:43:47 +0200 (CEST) From: Blaz Zupan X-Sender: blaz@titanic.medinet.si To: Troy Settle Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: hello-world in wap In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Forgive my ignorance, but what is 'wap' ? WAP is "Wireless Access Protocol". It is similar to HTML, but meant for reading with new generation GSM (cellphones in Europe). Take a look at http://www.gsm.org/technology/wap.html Blaz Zupan, Medinet d.o.o, Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia E-mail: blaz@amis.net, Tel: +386-2-320-6320, Fax: +386-2-320-6325 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 1 10:20:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.numachi.com (numachi.numachi.com [198.175.254.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E4F6237B80C for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 10:20:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reichert@numachi.com) Received: (qmail 5675 invoked by uid 1001); 1 May 2000 17:20:06 -0000 Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 13:20:06 -0400 From: Brian Reichert To: Warner Losh Cc: Brian Reichert , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: linksys vs cisco Message-ID: <20000501132006.B5261@numachi.com> References: <20000428203428.A18217@numachi.com> <20000421140700.B3163@numachi.com> <20000428203428.A18217@numachi.com> <200005010413.WAA74544@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre4i In-Reply-To: <200005010413.WAA74544@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 10:13:00PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 10:13:00PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > What does ifconfig -a have to say? What ethernet address does it > report? So spake ifconfig: % ifconfig ed0 ed0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::3d4:ffff:fe03:20%ed0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xa inet 192.168.100.203 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.100.255 ether 01:d4:ff:03:00:20 > Warner -- Brian 'you Bastard' Reichert reichert@numachi.com 37 Crystal Ave. #303 Daytime number: (781) 273-4100 x161 Derry NH 03038-1713 USA Intel architecture: the left-hand path To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 1 14:51:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9737B37B67B for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 14:51:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sprice@hiwaay.net) Received: from localhost (sprice@localhost) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e41LpWQ16650 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 16:51:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 16:51:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Price To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: webserver hardware? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've been looking at buying some webservers, mainly 1U/2U rackmount units. I've looked at VA Linux, Penguin Computing, and Dell, and found a wide range of prices and roughly equivalent features. Can anyone recommend any other companies I should check out for quotes on this type of system? Oh and being able to lease the equipment would be great though not a requirement. -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 1 14:56: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from Astrovan.cstone.net (mailstop.cstone.net [205.197.102.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743E437B94D for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 14:53:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from highway@cstone.net) Received: from cstone.net (aylee.mrgoodbucks.com [209.145.93.143]) by Astrovan.cstone.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59789U13500L1350S0V35) with ESMTP id net; Mon, 1 May 2000 17:47:48 -0400 Message-ID: <390DFD00.102E760B@cstone.net> Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 17:54:08 -0400 From: Sean Michael Whipkey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Price Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: webserver hardware? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Steve Price wrote: > > I've been looking at buying some webservers, mainly 1U/2U > rackmount units. I've looked at VA Linux, Penguin Computing, > and Dell, and found a wide range of prices and roughly > equivalent features. Can anyone recommend any other companies > I should check out for quotes on this type of system? Oh and > being able to lease the equipment would be great though not > a requirement. Like others will say, I'll have to recommend Telenet. I've been very happy with their machines. http://www.telesys.com/ SeanMike -- Sean Michael Whipkey - "I drink a lot of [beer]. Let me be socially responsible for a moment: If you are under 21, or driving, or both, then you should wait to drink until you turn 21 and/or park the car. And you'll want to stay away from Zima regardless." - ack@rpg.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 1 22:41:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E3937B89C for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 22:41:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.9.2/8.9.3) with UUCP id HAA93019 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 May 2000 07:41:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA28100 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 07:37:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 07:37:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Leif Neland To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: orbs/rss/rbl/dul blocker after headers? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is it possible to put the dns-based lookups later in the conversation, so instead of the senders getting blocked already when trying to connect, they get blocked just before the DATA. So sender and reciever gets logged? That would also make it possible to send a longer message by mail than the errormessage, which people often don't understand. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 1 23:24:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from lunatic.oneinsane.net (lunatic.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3873837B528 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 23:24:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net) Received: by lunatic.oneinsane.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4D6E75DA4; Mon, 1 May 2000 23:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 23:23:59 -0700 From: Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: orbs/rss/rbl/dul blocker after headers? Message-ID: <20000501232359.C79190@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Reply-To: Ron Rosson References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from leifn@neland.dk on Tue, May 02, 2000 at 07:37:00AM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD lunatic.oneinsane.net 4.0-STABLE X-Moon: The Moon is Waning Crescent (5% of Full) X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net X-PGP-KEY: http://www.oneinsane.net/~insane/insane2-pgp5i.txt X-Uptime: 11:22PM up 4 days, 3:03, 2 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 02 May 2000, Leif Neland was heard blurting out: > Is it possible to put the dns-based lookups later in the conversation, so > instead of the senders getting blocked already when trying to connect, > they get blocked just before the DATA. > So sender and reciever gets logged? > That would also make it possible to send a longer message by mail than the > errormessage, which people often don't understand. > I am assuming you are talking about sendmail here. In postfix I get what RBL blocked it where it came from and who it was to without doing anything special. FYI -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was /dev/null and *void() ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ A self-addressed envelope would be addressed "envelope." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 2 1: 5:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from spooky.eis.net.au (spooky.eis.net.au [203.12.171.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0DC437B5EB for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 01:05:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ernie@spooky.eis.net.au) Received: (from ernie@localhost) by spooky.eis.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01937 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 May 2000 18:00:41 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ernie) From: Ernie Elu Message-Id: <200005020800.SAA01937@spooky.eis.net.au> Subject: Quake3 server maxfiles To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 18:00:41 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am getting the occasional error ERROR: FS_HandleForFile: none free in the Quake 3 logs when there are several players downloading maps at once. In the windows world one would do something like increase files=xxxx in your config.sys. It's a FreeBSD 4.0 server running the Linux 6.1 emulation. The FreeBSD side of things has been set to have kern.maxfiles: 8200, so I presume it's something in the linux libs. Anyone know the relationship between kern.maxfiles and the linux emulation? Does the maximum files have to be set seperately in the linux environment? - Ernie. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 2 3:49:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from naiad.eclipse.net.uk (naiad.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA1537B61E for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 03:49:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: by naiad.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix, from userid 475) id 3B89013BB4; Tue, 02 May 2000 11:51:42 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 11:51:42 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson To: Leif Neland Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: orbs/rss/rbl/dul blocker after headers? Message-ID: <20000502115142.S71474@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from leifn@neland.dk on Tue, May 02, 2000 at 07:37:00AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 07:37:00AM +0200, Leif Neland wrote: > Is it possible to put the dns-based lookups later in the conversation, so > instead of the senders getting blocked already when trying to connect, > they get blocked just before the DATA. > So sender and reciever gets logged? Postfix can do this. > That would also make it possible to send a longer message by mail than the > errormessage, which people often don't understand. You probably don't want that, it will clog your queue with undeliverable spam bounces... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 2 8:20: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.timnordeste.com.br (mail.timnordeste.com.br [200.249.140.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1FA37B828 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 08:19:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rmariz@timnordeste.com.br) Received: from timnordeste.com.br ([10.80.72.249]) by mail.timnordeste.com.br (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.3 (Intl)) with ESMTP id 2000050211352621:26549 ; Tue, 2 May 2000 11:35:26 -0300 Message-ID: <390EBEC6.C1DAC5D3@timnordeste.com.br> Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 11:40:54 +0000 From: Renato Mariz de Moraes X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Proliant Compaq or IBM Netfinity X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on intrape01/Timnordeste(Release 5.0.3 (Intl)|21 March 2000) at 05/02/2000 11:35:26 AM, Serialize by Router on intrape01/Timnordeste(Release 5.0.3 (Intl)|21 March 2000) at 05/02/2000 12:15:56 PM, Serialize complete at 05/02/2000 12:15:56 PM Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone runned FreeBSD on the Compaq Proliant ML 350 machine? Does it work well? The same I ask about IBM Netfinity 3500. I have to choose between them to run FreeBSD. Thank you, Renato Mariz -- "To reboot type win" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 2 8:33:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ms1.meiway.com (ms1.meiway.com [212.73.210.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4711B37BD51 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 08:33:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from sv.Go2France.com [212.73.210.79] by ms1.meiway.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A6BEC6CC038A; Tue, 02 May 2000 17:39:42 +0200 Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000502172552.00e365f0@mail.Go2France.com> X-Sender: lconrad%Go2France.com@mail.Go2France.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 17:31:57 +0200 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Subject: Re: orbs/rss/rbl/dul blocker after headers? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Is it possible to put the dns-based lookups later in the conversation, go postfix, it has very fine grained controls for spam, http://postfix.eu.org/uce.html including delaying 5xx msgs until later in the dialog. > so >instead of the senders getting blocked already when trying to connect, >they get blocked just before the DATA. >So sender and reciever gets logged? postfix has the option of sending a pretty-printed session dialog to the local postmaster. >That would also make it possible to send a longer message by mail than the >errormessage, which people often don't understand. You could some perl in an alias behind local postmaster that forwarded a copy of the postfix session transcript to the "mail from:" address, since the session transcript will typically only show up in the SMTP client logs, not all the back to the "mail from:". btw, if you do this bit of perl, I'd appreciate a copy. We love postfix here. Even built an entire anti-spam front end out of it: http://IMGate.MEIway.com for the Ipswitch Imail crowd, but the concept applies to any mail server. Len To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 2 12: 0:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from lark.capnet.state.tx.us (lark.capnet.state.tx.us [204.65.39.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6C937BAF4 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 12:00:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Bryan.Bradsby@capnet.state.tx.us) Received: from localhost (bbradsby@localhost) by lark.capnet.state.tx.us (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e42J0Za91054; Tue, 2 May 2000 14:00:35 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 14:00:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Bryan Bradsby To: Leif Neland Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: orbs/rss/rbl/dul blocker after headers? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Is it possible to put the dns-based lookups later in the conversation, so > instead of the senders getting blocked already when trying to connect, > they get blocked just before the DATA. Sendmail: Add the following to your .mc file FEATURE(`delay_checks') and ./Build a new .cf file. -bryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 2 12:37:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from om-mane-padme-hum.sibintek.net (om-mane-padme-hum.sibintek.net [213.128.194.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56AC37BC9B for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 12:37:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mishania@om-mane-padme-hum.sibintek.net) Received: (from mishania@localhost) by om-mane-padme-hum.sibintek.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA86057; Tue, 2 May 2000 23:36:56 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from mishania) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 23:36:56 +0400 From: "Mikhail A. Sokolov" To: Jim Dixon Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for a new equipment vendor Message-ID: <20000502233656.A86018@sibintek.net> References: <390883D9.C818A25E@tinker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: ; from jdd@vbc.net on Thu, Apr 27, 2000 at 08:16:51PM +0100 X-Point-of-View: Gravity is myth, - the earth sucks. X-NCC-RegID: ru.sibintek Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Apr 27, 2000 at 08:16:51PM +0100, Jim Dixon wrote: # On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Kim Shrier wrote: Does anybody recommend some brands? Working in corporation, I'll struggle to buy some !brand more than would be sorry it's a lot more expensive. I remember 450/500MHz versions of Compaq Proliant 1600 with Smart Array working great, but they just EOL'd. How pity. Any advices on, maybe, even Compaqs? Fujitsu-siemens (are those known in the US?)? # > I have ordered 2 Telenet 1U systems for clients that wanted dedicated # > web/email servers. So far, I have had no trouble with them and they # > appear to be well built. # # # We don't deal with them any more. Their products are generally good, # and prices are not low but are reasonable. # # -- # Jim Dixon VBCnet GB Ltd http://www.vbc.net -- -mishania To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 2 14: 8:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B3837BF5C for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 14:08:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.9.2/8.9.3) with UUCP id XAA19858; Tue, 2 May 2000 23:08:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA73627; Tue, 2 May 2000 23:04:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 23:04:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Leif Neland To: Bryan Bradsby Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: orbs/rss/rbl/dul blocker after headers? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 2 May 2000, Bryan Bradsby wrote: > > Is it possible to put the dns-based lookups later in the conversation, so > > instead of the senders getting blocked already when trying to connect, > > they get blocked just before the DATA. > > Sendmail: > > Add the following to your .mc file > > FEATURE(`delay_checks') > delay_checks.m4: No such file or directory. That's not in 8.9, only in 8.10. I'll try if I can just copy the delay_checks.m4 without upgrading... Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 2 15: 6: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39EC37C004 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 15:05:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jan@smartsoft.cc) Received: from smartsoft.cc (client-209-158-93-82.bellatlantic.net [209.158.93.82]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA08139 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 18:05:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <390F50E7.507A67CE@smartsoft.cc> Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 18:04:24 -0400 From: Jan Knepper Organization: Smartsoft, LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.org Subject: Startup FreeBSD ISP host. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am kinda a newbie here so here come my question(s): I am thinking hard about setting up a FreeBSD machine as dedicated host for e-mail and WWW. I have been talking to Bell Atlantic about this and they send me an offer at follows: 1. Cisco 2620 Router for $ 2,978.00 I do realize that this is more than it would be to buy this thing somewhere else, but configuration (I do not know how much I need this) is included. 2. Monthly recurring charge of $887.25 for 256K Frame Relay. 3. Some kind of security I do not think I really need. I have no idea where this offer stands. Nor do I know if this is really the best thing to do. I hope somebody on this list has a lot of experience with this and give me some valuable advice. Simply speaking what I want is this: 1. Intel Pentium based FreeBSD 4.0 Box with Apache. 2. Dedicated connection, minimal 128K, but preferable 256K or higher to the internet. I understand that this is done using an Ethernet card in the box and a router connected to the Ethernet card. 3. Host at least 3, but probably up to 10 domains on the box. I understood that Apache is able to do this. All the domains already exists, just would have to change their IP addresses I guess. 4. Attach the box to our local PC network using a second Ethernet card in the box and a 10/100 TX hub. 5. Use the box for incoming and outgoing e-mail for the several domains. 6. Use the box as a gateway to serve the web. Why do I concider this? Right now we have a couple of domain's hosted with different virtual host providers. Monthly charges vary between $45 to $85. We have 2 dialin ISDN-2 providers, 1 is backup, Each $35/month. ISDN-2 phone line with an access plan which we usually just do not make. About $120/month The total costs for Internet access, e-mail and hosting are somewhere between $400 and $500 per month with all kinds of restrictions. Virtual hosts usually can not store more than 40 Mb, some have 60 Mb, but it's usually rather limited. The only scripting allowed is PERL. No C or C++. FTP is a problem. etc. etc. etc. I guess I just would be a lot happier if I could run my own FreeBSD host, with all the sites and a few other things upto and unlimited boundary. Any ideas? Comments? Suggestions? Thanks! Jan Knepper -- =============================================================== Jan Knepper Smartsoft, LLC 88 Petersburg Road Petersburg, NJ 08270 U.S.A. Phone: 609-628-4260 FAX : 609-628-1267 http://www.smartsoft.cc/ --------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.pianoprincess.com/ http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess http://www.riffage.com/Bands/0,2939,2859,00.html http://pianoprincess.iuma.com/ http://www.changemusic.com/piano_princess =============================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 2 15:31:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from MushMouth.AaronJackson.com (cd-140-180.ra30.dc.capu.net [64.50.140.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07EE437C068 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 15:30:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jackson@msrce.howard.edu) Received: (from www@localhost) by MushMouth.AaronJackson.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA17591; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:33:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 17:33:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200005022233.RAA17591@MushMouth.AaronJackson.com> From: Aaron Jackson To: Jan Knepper Reply-To: Aaron Jackson Cc: FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG References: <390F50E7.507A67CE@smartsoft.cc> In-Reply-To: <390F50E7.507A67CE@smartsoft.cc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.11 Subject: Re: Startup FreeBSD ISP host. Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sounds like they are riping you off for the frame relay. Check out: http://www.bellatlantic.com/smallbiz/prodserv/frs.htm Also, the Router. You could use a CSU/DSU card ($800 US), depending on how mission critical this set up is. What you want is not a hard thing to do. The only question, is do you really want to run everything from one box? Quoting Jan Knepper : > Hi, > > I am kinda a newbie here so here come my question(s): > > I am thinking hard about setting up a FreeBSD machine as dedicated host for > e-mail and WWW. I have been talking to Bell Atlantic about this and they > send me > an offer at follows: > > 1. Cisco 2620 Router for $ 2,978.00 > I do realize that this is more than it would be to buy this thing somewhere > else, but configuration (I do not know how much I need this) is included. > > 2. Monthly recurring charge of $887.25 for 256K Frame Relay. > > 3. Some kind of security I do not think I really need. > > I have no idea where this offer stands. Nor do I know if this is really the > best > thing to do. I hope somebody on this list has a lot of experience with this > and > give me some valuable advice. > > > > Simply speaking what I want is this: > > 1. Intel Pentium based FreeBSD 4.0 Box with Apache. > 2. Dedicated connection, minimal 128K, but preferable 256K or higher to > the > internet. I understand that this is done using an Ethernet card in the box > and a > router connected to the Ethernet card. > 3. Host at least 3, but probably up to 10 domains on the box. I > understood > that Apache is able to do this. All the domains already exists, just would > have > to change their IP addresses I guess. > 4. Attach the box to our local PC network using a second Ethernet card > in the > box and a 10/100 TX hub. > 5. Use the box for incoming and outgoing e-mail for the several domains. > 6. Use the box as a gateway to serve the web. > > Why do I concider this? > Right now we have a couple of domain's hosted with different virtual host > providers. Monthly charges vary between $45 to $85. > We have 2 dialin ISDN-2 providers, 1 is backup, Each $35/month. > ISDN-2 phone line with an access plan which we usually just do not make. > About > $120/month > > The total costs for Internet access, e-mail and hosting are somewhere > between > $400 and $500 per month with all kinds of restrictions. Virtual hosts > usually > can not store more than 40 Mb, some have 60 Mb, but it's usually rather > limited. > The only scripting allowed is PERL. No C or C++. FTP is a problem. etc. > etc. > etc. > > I guess I just would be a lot happier if I could run my own FreeBSD host, > with > all the sites and a few other things upto and unlimited boundary. > > Any ideas? Comments? Suggestions? > > Thanks! > Jan Knepper "You don't know what you don't know until you know that you don't know it." -- Me To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 2 15:34:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dorothy.hentschel.net (216-59-4-104.usa.flashcom.net [216.59.4.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428BD37C068 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 15:34:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thomas@hentschel.net) Received: from hentschel.net (thomas@falcon.home.hentschel.net [192.168.1.2]) by dorothy.hentschel.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA24424; Tue, 2 May 2000 15:23:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thomas@hentschel.net) Message-Id: <200005022223.PAA24424@dorothy.hentschel.net> Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 15:40:52 -0700 (PDT) From: thomas@hentschel.net Subject: Re: Startup FreeBSD ISP host. To: Jan Knepper Cc: FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <390F50E7.507A67CE@smartsoft.cc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2 May, Jan Knepper wrote: Not really a list topic, but here's my $.02 anyways : You didn't say what area you live in, but you might consider using DSL for that. Since you already have a ISDN connection, you should be able to get at least IDSL (144k up/down), which should be quite a bit cheaper than the FR offer below. You could hook 2 IDSL connections together, which should give you 288k up/down, for a monthly cost < $250 depending on upstream provider. You just need to ask them to be able to run servers, to give you static IP(s) and to do reverse DNS for you, so it may take a bit of shopping around. -Th > Hi, > > I am kinda a newbie here so here come my question(s): > > I am thinking hard about setting up a FreeBSD machine as dedicated host for > e-mail and WWW. I have been talking to Bell Atlantic about this and they send me > an offer at follows: > > 1. Cisco 2620 Router for $ 2,978.00 > I do realize that this is more than it would be to buy this thing somewhere > else, but configuration (I do not know how much I need this) is included. > > 2. Monthly recurring charge of $887.25 for 256K Frame Relay. > > 3. Some kind of security I do not think I really need. > > I have no idea where this offer stands. Nor do I know if this is really the best > thing to do. I hope somebody on this list has a lot of experience with this and > give me some valuable advice. > > > > Simply speaking what I want is this: > > 1. Intel Pentium based FreeBSD 4.0 Box with Apache. > 2. Dedicated connection, minimal 128K, but preferable 256K or higher to the > internet. I understand that this is done using an Ethernet card in the box and a > router connected to the Ethernet card. > 3. Host at least 3, but probably up to 10 domains on the box. I understood > that Apache is able to do this. All the domains already exists, just would have > to change their IP addresses I guess. > 4. Attach the box to our local PC network using a second Ethernet card in the > box and a 10/100 TX hub. > 5. Use the box for incoming and outgoing e-mail for the several domains. > 6. Use the box as a gateway to serve the web. > > Why do I concider this? > Right now we have a couple of domain's hosted with different virtual host > providers. Monthly charges vary between $45 to $85. > We have 2 dialin ISDN-2 providers, 1 is backup, Each $35/month. > ISDN-2 phone line with an access plan which we usually just do not make. About > $120/month > > The total costs for Internet access, e-mail and hosting are somewhere between > $400 and $500 per month with all kinds of restrictions. Virtual hosts usually > can not store more than 40 Mb, some have 60 Mb, but it's usually rather limited. > The only scripting allowed is PERL. No C or C++. FTP is a problem. etc. etc. > etc. > > I guess I just would be a lot happier if I could run my own FreeBSD host, with > all the sites and a few other things upto and unlimited boundary. > > Any ideas? Comments? Suggestions? > > Thanks! > Jan Knepper > > > > -- > =============================================================== > Jan Knepper > Smartsoft, LLC > 88 Petersburg Road > Petersburg, NJ 08270 > U.S.A. > > Phone: 609-628-4260 > FAX : 609-628-1267 > > http://www.smartsoft.cc/ > --------------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.pianoprincess.com/ > http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess > http://www.riffage.com/Bands/0,2939,2859,00.html > http://pianoprincess.iuma.com/ > http://www.changemusic.com/piano_princess > =============================================================== > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 2 15:38:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from zoe2.qserve.net (zoe2.qserve.net [207.250.219.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1953937C15E for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 15:38:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rch@qserve.net) Received: from acidic.qserve.net (acidic.qserve.net [207.250.219.40]) by zoe2.qserve.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA40238; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:44:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rch@qserve.net) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000502173514.00d1e800@qserve.net> X-Sender: rch@qserve.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 17:43:16 -0500 To: Jan Knepper , FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG From: Robert Hough Subject: Re: Startup FreeBSD ISP host. In-Reply-To: <390F50E7.507A67CE@smartsoft.cc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 06:04 PM 5/2/00 -0400, Jan Knepper wrote: >The total costs for Internet access, e-mail and hosting are somewhere between >$400 and $500 per month with all kinds of restrictions. If I were you, I would look into co-locating your server with some local ISP, or even national providers in your area. Prices vary, depending on company and package, but I think an average startup cost is 400 and goes up from there (At least I think that is the current going rate here in Indy). There are some drawbacks of course, but for what it sounds like you want to do, it's not something you couldn't get around. Hope that helps, and I'm sure you'll get better answers. :) -- Robert Hough (rch@qserve.net) Qserve Internet, Inc. http://www.qserve.net/ Ph: (317)802-3036 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 2 15:58:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B562F37B9C3 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 15:58:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jan@smartsoft.cc) Received: from smartsoft.cc (client-209-158-94-214.bellatlantic.net [209.158.94.214]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA00732; Tue, 2 May 2000 18:58:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <390F5D37.D7978C50@smartsoft.cc> Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 18:56:55 -0400 From: Jan Knepper Organization: Smartsoft, LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aaron Jackson Cc: FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Startup FreeBSD ISP host. References: <390F50E7.507A67CE@smartsoft.cc> <200005022233.RAA17591@MushMouth.AaronJackson.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Aaron Jackson wrote: > Sounds like they are riping you off for the frame > relay. Check out: > http://www.bellatlantic.com/smallbiz/prodserv/frs.htm Hmmm, will check it out. > Also, the Router. You could use a CSU/DSU card ($800 > US), depending on how mission critical this set up is. > What you want is not a hard thing to do. The only > question, is do you really want to run everything from > one box? Yup! I didn't think it is that much all together. I have setup Apache before with multiple virtual hosts. The one thing I am a bit worried about it e-mail to be separated for the different domains. I know the same user names are used on the different domains. -- =============================================================== Jan Knepper Smartsoft, LLC 88 Petersburg Road Petersburg, NJ 08270 U.S.A. Phone: 609-628-4260 FAX : 609-628-1267 http://www.smartsoft.cc/ --------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.pianoprincess.com/ http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess http://www.riffage.com/Bands/0,2939,2859,00.html http://pianoprincess.iuma.com/ http://www.changemusic.com/piano_princess =============================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 2 16: 3:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 49FE137BA87 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 16:03:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 8778 invoked by uid 1000); 2 May 2000 23:03:40 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 May 2000 23:03:40 -0000 Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 19:03:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: FreeBSD-ISP Subject: freebsd hosting. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'm sorry, I deleted the original message before thinking, but revived a bit from scrollback: > worried about it e-mail to be separated for the different domains. I know > the same user names are used on the different domains. I do this nicely for > 30 domains with qmail, as for as I'm concerned it's the only way to do email virtual hosting =) Matt Heckaman matt@arpa.mail.net http://www.lucida.qc.ca -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5D17LdMMtMcA1U5ARAsFeAKC9+0/DpeKWknrQjzmnCNiLt3Mh2wCguIPR 6wHx3QePQhOEORrViKEJNRQ= =qZEX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 2 16: 6:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E677837B83D for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 16:06:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jan@smartsoft.cc) Received: from smartsoft.cc (client-209-158-92-227.bellatlantic.net [209.158.92.227]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA05837; Tue, 2 May 2000 19:06:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <390F5F11.736114D5@smartsoft.cc> Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 19:04:49 -0400 From: Jan Knepper Organization: Smartsoft, LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thomas@hentschel.net Cc: FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Startup FreeBSD ISP host. References: <200005022223.PAA24424@dorothy.hentschel.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I live in Southern New Jersey (Cape May County). I though there are ways to look that up from the zipcode, but I guess (since I do not know where to find that) other don't know either. IDSL 144k up/down isn't going to do much if I already have 128k up/down right? Or is 144K just for one B-channel? I checked, but (I)DSL is not available in this area yet. Well not as "local call"... ISDN however is... No cable modem either... Yeah, it's really in the middle of nowhere. That's also why I asked ba-dsg.com what is really included for that $887.25 a month... -- =============================================================== Jan Knepper Smartsoft, LLC 88 Petersburg Road Petersburg, NJ 08270 U.S.A. Phone: 609-628-4260 FAX : 609-628-1267 http://www.smartsoft.cc/ --------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.pianoprincess.com/ http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess http://www.riffage.com/Bands/0,2939,2859,00.html http://pianoprincess.iuma.com/ http://www.changemusic.com/piano_princess =============================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 2 16: 9:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01DE837BAB5 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 16:09:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jan@smartsoft.cc) Received: from smartsoft.cc (client-209-158-94-150.bellatlantic.net [209.158.94.150]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA07766; Tue, 2 May 2000 19:09:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <390F5FC6.B36153C@smartsoft.cc> Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 19:07:50 -0400 From: Jan Knepper Organization: Smartsoft, LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Heckaman Cc: FreeBSD-ISP Subject: Re: freebsd hosting. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matt Heckaman wrote: > I'm sorry, I deleted the original message before thinking, but revived a > bit from scrollback: > > > worried about it e-mail to be separated for the different domains. I know > > the same user names are used on the different domains. > > I do this nicely for > 30 domains with qmail, as for as I'm concerned it's > the only way to do email virtual hosting =) Cool! Thanks for the tip! -- =============================================================== Jan Knepper Smartsoft, LLC 88 Petersburg Road Petersburg, NJ 08270 U.S.A. Phone: 609-628-4260 FAX : 609-628-1267 http://www.smartsoft.cc/ --------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.pianoprincess.com/ http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess http://www.riffage.com/Bands/0,2939,2859,00.html http://pianoprincess.iuma.com/ http://www.changemusic.com/piano_princess =============================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 2 16:11:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from twitch.spanner.net (twitch.spanner.net [203.9.148.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B26D637B52B for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 16:11:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from saboteur@spanner.net) Received: by twitch.spanner.net (Postfix, from userid 1034) id EA4E714CF; Wed, 3 May 2000 09:09:23 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by twitch.spanner.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7EAD147D; Wed, 3 May 2000 09:09:23 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 09:09:23 +1000 (EST) From: To: Jan Knepper Cc: Aaron Jackson , FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Startup FreeBSD ISP host. In-Reply-To: <390F5D37.D7978C50@smartsoft.cc> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Use VirtUserTable for the multiple domains check sendmail's webpage for details tim. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 2 17:51:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f335.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E97B37BC96 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:51:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmd526@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 20377 invoked by uid 0); 3 May 2000 00:51:29 -0000 Message-ID: <20000503005129.20376.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.220.228.2 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 02 May 2000 17:51:29 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.220.228.2] From: "John Daniels" To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: GET OUT THE VOTE! Please support Java port to *BSD Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 20:51:29 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi: Since last week when the message below and other messages began to circulate, approximately 230 votes have been cast for the java port to *BSD. This has raised our total count to 3182, an increase of 7.75%. Additionally, it is heartening to read the comments left by those who have voted which clearly demonstrate the depth of loyalty that *BSD users have for their platform of choice. Greg Lewis, who heads the FreeBSD-java porting effort has released the first "alpha" patchset for FreeBSD, the seventh in a series of patchsets representing months of work by many *BSD-ers. These volunteers have made a tremendous effort that is sure to enhance the *BSD plaform whether Sun comes around to an "official" port or not. The best way to say "Thanks" is to 1) help with testing, 2) VOTE! FYI: I am not a part of the java porting team, just a user who would like to use a native port and support the *BSD platform. John Last week, John Daniels wrote: >Hi: > >In November 1999 a request for enhancement (RFE) was opened at Sun's >Java Developer's Connection titled: Port jdk 1.2.x to FreeBSD (bug >id: 4288745). > >Members of the Java Developer's Connection help prioritize bug fixes >and RFE's by voting for the one's that they believe are needed most. The >FreeBSD port RFE currently is the #1 request by far with 2953 votes vs. 819 >for the #2 request. > >Even with this wide lead, Sun has no obligation to make an official >port of Java to FreeBSD or *BSD, or to be helpful to the *BSD efforts >to port Java (see www.freebsd.org/java). The larger the number of >votes >for our RFE, however, the more difficult it is for Sun to >ignore. And the more that we can widen the lead between our #1 RFE >and #2, the more dramatic a statement we (collectively) make. > >An official Java JDK port to FreeBSD would likely mean that all BSD's >would benefit either by being able to use the FreeBSD port or by >being much closer to a port of their own. In fact, many who have >voted for the RFE have left comments supporting a port to *BSD, not >just FreeBSD. > >As you may know, Sun recently teamed with Inprise to create an >official port of Java to Linux (building on the work of Blackdown). >The *BSD's, with a large and loyal base of developers, also deserve >an official native version of Java. > >Please support the Java on *BSD effort by voting for the RFE at: >http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4288745.html If you >are not already a member of Sun's Java Developers Connection, >you will need to register before voting (membership is free). > >Your support is greatly appreciated. Thank you. > >John > >PS Please forward this message to any person, list, or organization >that may want to support this effort. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 2 18: 0:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wanlogistics.net (mail.wanlogistics.net [63.209.114.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3532937BB3E for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 18:00:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@mail.wanlogistics.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by mail.wanlogistics.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA28370; Tue, 2 May 2000 21:00:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bill) Message-Id: <200005030100.VAA28370@mail.wanlogistics.net> Subject: Re: Startup FreeBSD ISP host. In-Reply-To: <390F50E7.507A67CE@smartsoft.cc> from Jan Knepper at "May 2, 2000 06:04:24 pm" To: Jan Knepper Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 21:00:01 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: bill@wjv.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Reply to: bill@wjv.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jan said: > I am kinda a newbie here so here come my question(s): > I am thinking hard about setting up a FreeBSD machine as dedicated > host for e-mail and WWW. I have been talking to Bell Atlantic > about this and they send me an offer at follows: > 1. Cisco 2620 Router for $ 2,978.00 Based on your requirements you surely don't need that. If you want Cisco HW you should be able to get a used 250x for about $1000 > I do realize that this is more than it would be to buy this thing > somewhere else, but configuration (I do not know how much I need > this) is included. For what you are needing configuration it not that hard. You could find a high-priced person to do it for $250 - and that would be overkill for that. $100 would be decent. I'll bet there are several on this newsgroup who would do that. > 2. Monthly recurring charge of $887.25 for 256K Frame Relay. And most of that is for transport. Charges vary by area - but 256 K (anything over 64K actually) requires a 4 wire circuit - and transport charges in this area (I'm in Florida) would be about $550. Data typically goes in the range of $700 Mbit. Those figures can vary widely. > 3. Some kind of security I do not think I really need. 'some kind' is a pretty vagued description. > I have no idea where this offer stands. Nor do I know if this is > really the best thing to do. I hope somebody on this list has a > lot of experience with this and give me some valuable advice. We'll all give you advice - you have to determine whether it is valuable or not > Simply speaking what I want is this: > 1. Intel Pentium based FreeBSD 4.0 Box with Apache. > 2. Dedicated connection, minimal 128K, but preferable 256K or > higher to the internet. I understand that this is done using an > Ethernet card in the box and a router connected to the Ethernet > card. > 3. Host at least 3, but probably up to 10 domains on the box. I > understood that Apache is able to do this. All the domains already > exists, just would have to change their IP addresses I guess. I worked with an ISP and had about 80 domains on a 120Mhz Pentium with Apache that ran faster than the SGI Challenge S server with Netscape it replaced. The clue was the faster HD. For 10 domains you have more than enough horsepower. > 4. Attach the box to our local PC network using a second Ethernet > card in the box and a 10/100 TX hub. > 5. Use the box for incoming and outgoing e-mail for the several > domains. > 6. Use the box as a gateway to serve the web. > Why do I concider this? > Right now we have a couple of domain's hosted with different > virtual host providers. Monthly charges vary between $45 to $85. > We have 2 dialin ISDN-2 providers, 1 is backup, Each $35/month. > ISDN-2 phone line with an access plan which we usually just do not > make. About $120/month > The total costs for Internet access, e-mail and hosting are > somewhere between $400 and $500 per month with all kinds of > restrictions. Virtual hosts usually can not store more than 40 > Mb, some have 60 Mb, but it's usually rather limited. The only > scripting allowed is PERL. No C or C++. FTP is a problem. etc. > etc. etc. One of the other replies suggested a co-location. A friend and I are building such a facility (*this is not an ad*) and we targeting indstrial/commercial areas - no cheap web hosting - and we are building up a price list. The amount of money BA wants to charge for your service is about what we are targetting for a dedicated machine on a 100Mbit uplink with 1.5 Mbit guaranteed bandwidth (T1 rates) to our providers switch on an interconnected OC48 (approx 2Gb) link - being upgraded to OC192 by the end of the year. Power backup is a 1.25Megawatt system backing up one of the largest battery banks I've ever seen. This type of facility is becoming more common so you should be able to find one near you and for the same amount of money you would be paying for a 256K line you would get an effective T1 link - without having to worry about UPS systems, etc. Look carefully at what the bandwidth limits are at co-location facilities too, and take out your calulator and do the math. While some of the prices look good if you get busy you could wind up paying more, a LOT more than what you expect to pay. Look for guarantees too - eg guaranteed bandwidth - and what the remedied are if the don't meet it. They are called SLA's - service level agreements. > I guess I just would be a lot happier if I could run my own > FreeBSD host, with all the sites and a few other things upto and > unlimited boundary. Unlimited would be nice. But with my experience with BSD and Apache - several hundred sites - depending on useage of the site - is really no problem. For some people that is unlimited. > Any ideas? Comments? Suggestions? As you can see - I think the colo idea is best. In this past week or so there are two places locally building 'carrier hotels' - all located near major switches for zero mile transport. It's the wave of the future - at least for this year. Look around. Do some 'web shopping' and find just what is out there. If you aren't aware of what these places look like check out the exodus.net pages - they are building their own network - or www.level3.com/us/services/colocation - that's where we have our racks. Those are just two of many. Just be sure to look around before you sign that proposal. And try not to get excited when you find something that really looks good without doing some careful shopping. Depending on your dynamics waiting a month or two before you leap could pay off in the long run. After all you don't want to have to do this again later on. Bill -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 2 18: 8:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from thud.tbe.net (thud.tbe.net [209.123.109.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A9A37BD25 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 18:08:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gary@tbe.net) Received: by thud.tbe.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 594FB1C9522; Tue, 2 May 2000 21:05:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thud.tbe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53492DCF4D; Tue, 2 May 2000 21:05:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 21:05:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gary D. Margiotta" To: Matt Heckaman Cc: FreeBSD-ISP Subject: Re: freebsd hosting. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gonna start a holy war here, but for a 'newbie' I'd rather reccommend Postfix instead of Q-Mail. I have used both, and Q-mail to me just seems too much patching and work to get it to do the simplest things, like rbl lookups, spam control, etc. Postfix is a little more like sendmail, and is I think a bit better at delegating for virtual hosting and aliasing (over Q-Mail at least)... I have two machines running FreeBSD with Postfix, doing e-mail for over 250 domains - nary a problem. Co-location is definitely a better way to go than a frame, IMHO. We have a rack, and it's much less expensive than running a frame to your house. There are inconveniences, such as not having the boxes right on premises, and needing to go to the provider if you need to do work, but for the cost/connectivity, you really can't beat it. DSL is still in its infancy, and if you need uptime, you still won't get it reliably yet. Too many bugs to still work out. Just my $.02, I'll shut up now... ;) -Gary On Tue, 2 May 2000, Matt Heckaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I'm sorry, I deleted the original message before thinking, but revived a > bit from scrollback: > > > worried about it e-mail to be separated for the different domains. I know > > the same user names are used on the different domains. > > I do this nicely for > 30 domains with qmail, as for as I'm concerned it's > the only way to do email virtual hosting =) > > Matt Heckaman > matt@arpa.mail.net > http://www.lucida.qc.ca > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) > Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp > > iD8DBQE5D17LdMMtMcA1U5ARAsFeAKC9+0/DpeKWknrQjzmnCNiLt3Mh2wCguIPR > 6wHx3QePQhOEORrViKEJNRQ= > =qZEX > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 2 18:20:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bingnet2.cc.binghamton.edu (bingnet2.cc.binghamton.edu [128.226.1.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7E537BCDA; Tue, 2 May 2000 18:20:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zzhang@cs.binghamton.edu) Received: from sol.cs.binghamton.edu (sol.cs.binghamton.edu [128.226.123.100]) by bingnet2.cc.binghamton.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA28239; Tue, 2 May 2000 21:20:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 21:19:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Zhihui Zhang To: John Daniels Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GET OUT THE VOTE! Please support Java port to *BSD In-Reply-To: <20000503005129.20376.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >Please support the Java on *BSD effort by voting for the RFE at: > >http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4288745.html If you > >are not already a member of Sun's Java Developers Connection, > >you will need to register before voting (membership is free). I have spent five minutes to register as a member and go to the above site and click the radio button to vote for this bug. -Zhihui To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 2 18:21:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D43E037B5F0 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 18:21:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 9188 invoked by uid 1000); 3 May 2000 01:21:16 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 May 2000 01:21:16 -0000 Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 21:21:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: "Gary D. Margiotta" Cc: FreeBSD-ISP Subject: Re: freebsd hosting. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 2 May 2000, Gary D. Margiotta wrote: : Gonna start a holy war here, but for a 'newbie' I'd rather reccommend : Postfix instead of Q-Mail. I have used both, and Q-mail to me : just seems too much patching and work to get it to do the simplest things, : like rbl lookups, spam control, etc. I'll try not to make this post anything that will further a holy war, I also turned to postfix at first for the task. It's a nice system, but I find it cluttered, and I find the virtual hosting far more complex than it needs to be. Regarding spam control, one (and only one) patch solved this entire problem to me, thanks to Michael Graff which can be found at http://www.flame.org/qmail. : Postfix is a little more like sendmail, and is I think a bit better at : delegating for virtual hosting and aliasing (over Q-Mail at least)... I : have two machines running FreeBSD with Postfix, doing e-mail for over 250 : domains - nary a problem. Fair enough, I think it's a matter of opinion. Try both systems out, pick one you like and go for it. Both are capable of doing the job, thus making our personal preferences rather redundant =) : Co-location is definitely a better way to go than a frame, IMHO. We have : a rack, and it's much less expensive than running a frame to your house. : There are inconveniences, such as not having the boxes right on premises, : and needing to go to the provider if you need to do work, but for the : cost/connectivity, you really can't beat it. Absolutely - However, the last time I was in colocation, I had to make appointments to get to my box, once taking over a week to get in to fix a downed server, needless to say I was pissed off and left them shortly thereafter; replacing the whole colocation situation with a T1 from UUnet, and I'm much happier with it, haven't had the slightest problem. : DSL is still in its infancy, and if you need uptime, you still won't get : it reliably yet. Too many bugs to still work out. Yep, not to mention it doesn't seem to be a priority for companies to fix when something goes wrong. Sympatico has taken along time to fix some of their problems before. : Just my $.02, I'll shut up now... ;) ditto =) : -Gary Matt Heckaman matt@arpa.mail.net http://www.lucida.qc.ca -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5D38MdMMtMcA1U5ARAsHQAKCZgTzviHkG+OFBWuFkL//zdxLlbQCg7glD ouaRLAVVyzbDrYkvS6vBnME= =pKOa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 3 0:49:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mel.alcatel.fr (mel.alcatel.fr [212.208.74.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A6C37B65F for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 00:49:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr) Received: from aifhs10.alcatel.fr (mailhub2.alcatel.fr [155.132.188.80]) by mel.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP) with ESMTP id JAA01067; Wed, 3 May 2000 09:43:54 +0200 From: Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr Received: from frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr (frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr [155.132.251.32]) by aifhs10.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with SMTP id JAA15699; Wed, 3 May 2000 09:48:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) id C12568D4.002AE946 ; Wed, 3 May 2000 09:48:42 +0200 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ALCATEL To: "Mikhail A. Sokolov" Cc: Jim Dixon , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 09:48:35 +0200 Subject: Re: Looking for a new equipment vendor Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I've just had a look at 2U and 4U machines from Motorola : they seem very compatible with both 3-Stable and 4-0-R, and while not cheap, they are affordable. The 4U machine comes with a on-board Adpatec SCI controller. TfH "Mikhail A. Sokolov" on 02/05/2000 21:36:56 To: Jim Dixon cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG(bcc: Thierry HERBELOT/FR/ALCATEL) Subject: Re: Looking for a new equipment vendor On Thu, Apr 27, 2000 at 08:16:51PM +0100, Jim Dixon wrote: # On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Kim Shrier wrote: Does anybody recommend some brands? Working in corporation, I'll struggle to buy some !brand more than would be sorry it's a lot more expensive. I remember 450/500MHz versions of Compaq Proliant 1600 with Smart Array working great, but they just EOL'd. How pity. Any advices on, maybe, even Compaqs? Fujitsu-siemens (are those known in the US?)? [SNIP] -- -mishania To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 3 2: 3:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from satan.freebsdsystems.com (24.69.168.6.on.wave.home.com [24.69.168.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E61B37B95F for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 02:03:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lnb@satan.freebsdsystems.com) Received: (from lnb@localhost) by satan.freebsdsystems.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA47262 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 3 May 2000 05:08:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lnb) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 05:08:11 -0400 (EDT) Organization: FreeBSD Systems Inc. From: Lanny Baron To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: multiple mailboxes Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Can someone please explain the idea of isp's ideas of users having multiple mail boxes? As far as I can see it, either a domain has @domain.com in /etc/mail/virtusers and can receive mail to_anyone@domain.com. But for regular users (cable or dialup..non domain users) the only thing I can think of is adduser with no for shell and /nonexistent/username for the home dir. But then don't they have to set up a say 5 username/passwd combos in their mail programs? Thanks in advance for the info and help Oh by the way, if you run anonymous ftp, and you have incoming open, as I did. I found today someone had uploaded 2.6 GB of warez games. Then noticed when ssh'ing to that server, it was slow. ps auxw | more had pages and pages of ftpd running. Just a caution for those that are a little trusting and open to abuse. -Lanny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 3 2:10:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from satan.freebsdsystems.com (24.69.168.6.on.wave.home.com [24.69.168.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D60037B654 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 02:10:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lnb@satan.freebsdsystems.com) Received: (from lnb@localhost) by satan.freebsdsystems.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA47313; Wed, 3 May 2000 05:14:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lnb) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 05:14:55 -0400 (EDT) Organization: FreeBSD Systems Inc. From: Lanny Baron To: Steve Price , Chris Dillon , Janet , Janet Payne , execs@freedomtc.com Subject: RE: webserver hardware? Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Well while we are not officially open, we can provide you with the right server for your needs. Those involved in our up and coming FreeBSD Servers (we wont sell them with Linux or NT or Novell or anything else) company, some of which are real FreeBSD Guru's with both the OS and hardware. Call us at 1-877-963-1900. Sorry, if anyone feels this is a spam. But we (freebsdsystems.com) are 100% FreeBSD Regards, Lanny On 01-May-00 Steve Price wrote: > I've been looking at buying some webservers, mainly 1U/2U > rackmount units. I've looked at VA Linux, Penguin Computing, > and Dell, and found a wide range of prices and roughly > equivalent features. Can anyone recommend any other companies > I should check out for quotes on this type of system? Oh and > being able to lease the equipment would be great though not > a requirement. > > -steve > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 3 2:45:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from naiad.eclipse.net.uk (naiad.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4748037B8FB for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 02:45:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: by naiad.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix, from userid 475) id CA01A132DA; Wed, 03 May 2000 10:47:45 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 10:47:44 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson To: Lanny Baron Cc: Steve Price , Chris Dillon , Janet , Janet Payne , execs@freedomtc.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: webserver hardware? Message-ID: <20000503104744.E16973@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from lnb@freebsdsystems.com on Wed, May 03, 2000 at 05:14:55AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 05:14:55AM -0400, Lanny Baron wrote: > Well while we are not officially open, we can provide you with the right server > for your needs. Those involved in our up and coming FreeBSD Servers (we wont This seems like an opportune moment to remind people about the hardware vendor listing on the FreeBSD website, http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/hardware.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 3 2:53: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from satan.freebsdsystems.com (24.69.168.6.on.wave.home.com [24.69.168.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C1837BB56 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 02:53:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lnb@satan.freebsdsystems.com) Received: (from lnb@localhost) by satan.freebsdsystems.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA47721; Wed, 3 May 2000 05:57:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lnb) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20000503104744.E16973@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 05:57:14 -0400 (EDT) Organization: FreeBSD Systems Inc. From: Lanny Baron To: Stuart Henderson Subject: Re: webserver hardware? Cc: Steve Price , Chris Dillon , Janet , Janet Payne , execs@freedomtc.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We are listed in the gallery.... http://www.freebsd.org/gallery/cgallery.html FreeBSD Systems -lanny On 03-May-00 Stuart Henderson wrote: > On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 05:14:55AM -0400, Lanny Baron wrote: >> Well while we are not officially open, we can provide you with the right >> server >> for your needs. Those involved in our up and coming FreeBSD Servers (we wont > > This seems like an opportune moment to remind people about > the hardware vendor listing on the FreeBSD website, > > http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/hardware.html > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 3 3:24:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.pmburg.co.za (ntp.sai.co.za [196.33.40.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49CF337B7C3 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 03:24:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davew@sai.co.za) Received: from fdisk by pmburg.co.za with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.0.3.R) for ; Wed, 03 May 2000 12:22:42 +0200 Message-ID: <016501bfb4e9$e7deef30$112821c4@sai.co.za> From: "Dave Wilson" To: Subject: Cistron Radiusd accounting. Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 12:25:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Return-Path: davew@sai.co.za X-MDRcpt-To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: davew@sai.co.za Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi guys, howzit going ? I have installed Cistron Radiusd on a FreeBSD 3.4 box, it now authenticates +- 600 dial-up users perfectly. The only hassle that I have is that I'm not able to see when a user is or has logged in, and for how long. How do I enable the accounting to be able to see these details? Please help if you can 8-) Thanx Regards Dave Wilson www.sai.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 3 3:43:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.interact.se (smtp1.interact.se [193.15.98.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC7437BBC9 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 03:43:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from je@interact.se) Received: from wolfie.interact.se (je@wolfie.interact.se [193.15.98.202]) by smtp1.interact.se (InterACT Mailer) with ESMTP id MAA27262; Wed, 3 May 2000 12:43:44 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 12:40:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Jonas Eriksson X-Sender: je@localhost To: Dave Wilson Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cistron Radiusd accounting. In-Reply-To: <016501bfb4e9$e7deef30$112821c4@sai.co.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Check http://www.tibus.net/pgregg/projects/radiusreport/ -- Jonas Eriksson On Wed, 3 May 2000, Dave Wilson wrote: >Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 12:25:29 +0200 >From: Dave Wilson >To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Cistron Radiusd accounting. > >Hi guys, howzit going ? > >I have installed Cistron Radiusd on a FreeBSD 3.4 box, it now authenticates >+- 600 dial-up users perfectly. >The only hassle that I have is that I'm not able to see when a user is or >has logged in, and for how long. > >How do I enable the accounting to be able to see these details? > >Please help if you can 8-) >Thanx > >Regards >Dave Wilson >www.sai.co.za > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 3 7: 9:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F8537BBFA for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 07:09:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scanner@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (scanner@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA17154 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 10:09:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 10:09:45 -0400 (EDT) From: To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Any wireless internet service providers out there? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Im looking at deploying wireless broadband access to the local area. Is anyone out there doing this? ============================================================================= -Chris Watson (316) 326-3862 | FreeBSD Consultant, FreeBSD Geek Work: scanner@jurai.net | Open Systems Inc., Wellington, Kansas Home: scanner@deceptively.shady.org | http://open-systems.net ============================================================================= WINDOWS: "Where do you want to go today?" LINUX: "Where do you want to go tommorow?" BSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" ============================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 3 7:40:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from winconx.com (ns1.winconx.net [208.60.80.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 43FB337B979 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 07:40:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from travis@winconx.com) Received: (qmail 85072 invoked from network); 3 May 2000 14:43:30 -0000 Received: from dhcp01.winconx.net (HELO travis) (208.60.80.32) by ns1.winconx.net with SMTP; 3 May 2000 14:43:30 -0000 Message-ID: <007301bfb50d$8e3fa040$20503cd0@travis> From: "Travis Leuthauser" To: , References: <016501bfb4e9$e7deef30$112821c4@sai.co.za> Subject: Re: Cistron Radiusd accounting. Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 09:40:41 -0500 Organization: DDS Group of Companies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Make sure that you enable accounting in all the devices that use cistron authentication, restart cistron, and you should be able to gather your information radwho (for currently logged in users) radlast (for login history) Travis Leuthauser Network Administrator DDS Group ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Wilson" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 5:25 AM Subject: Cistron Radiusd accounting. > Hi guys, howzit going ? > > I have installed Cistron Radiusd on a FreeBSD 3.4 box, it now authenticates > +- 600 dial-up users perfectly. > The only hassle that I have is that I'm not able to see when a user is or > has logged in, and for how long. > > How do I enable the accounting to be able to see these details? > > Please help if you can 8-) > Thanx > > Regards > Dave Wilson > www.sai.co.za > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 3 10:18: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailserver.hiway.com.br (mailserver.hiway.com.br [200.246.53.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B0937BBDD for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 10:17:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from igor@wisemedia.com.br) Received: from design (34-03-mdm-max2.val.hiway.com.br [200.246.3.34]) by mailserver.hiway.com.br with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id KG4SZK8C; Wed, 3 May 2000 14:15:31 -0300 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000503135508.0096a840@pop-gw.websolute.com.br> X-Sender: igor@pop-gw.websolute.com.br X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 14:10:45 -0300 To: FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG From: Igor Macedo Subject: nmap Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello! How to run imap with authentication in MySQL ? tanks, - igor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 3 18:44: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail0.bna.bellsouth.net (mail0.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C0737BF2C for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 18:43:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from discover.siteplus.net (host-216-78-82-137.cha.bellsouth.net [216.78.82.137]) by mail0.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id VAA25877 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 21:43:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 21:43:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Dead seagate drive Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a problem with a ST39140W Seagate SCSI drive. I have two of these attached to a BT-958 Mylex adapter and after a power outage one of them wouldn't come back up. I am getting a device not configured error when trying to mount. A copy of dmesg shows that the drive is recognized which in this case is da1, but mount spits out the error not configured. kernel: da0 at bt0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 kernel: da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device kernel: da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled kernel: da0: 8683MB (17783240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C) kernel: da1 at bt0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 kernel: da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device kernel: da1: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled kernel: da1: 8683MB (17783240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C) /stand/sysinstall also sees the drive, but when I try to configure through the partition manager there is no data listed in the configuration screen. I have also remade the device through MAKEDEV. Of course I think this probably is redundant since kernel sees the device, but is unable to mount. I am thinking at this point that the drive is just dead. Any other advice would be appreciated. Thanks, Jim Weeks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 3 20:19:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51AF37B99F for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 20:19:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA27262; Wed, 3 May 2000 23:19:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 23:19:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Jim Weeks Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dead seagate drive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 3 May 2000, Jim Weeks wrote: > I am thinking at this point that the drive is just dead. Any other advice > would be appreciated. What does 'camcontrol tur daX' and 'camcontrol stop daX; camcontrol start daX; camcontorl tur daX' do for you? I've got an RZ55 that gets 'confused' on initial spin up and I have to stop and start it manually in order to get it working. -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 6:37:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gate.webclub.ru (gate.web2000.ru [195.58.61.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F91837C05B for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 06:36:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scriber@web2000.ru) Received: from novikov.web2000.ru ([195.58.61.36]) by gate.webclub.ru with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12nLoN-000M2N-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 04 May 2000 17:37:03 +0400 From: Andrey Novikov Organization: Web2000 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Simple traffic accounting Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 17:26:52 +0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00050417341207.05494@novikov.web2000.ru> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Please excuse me for a lamer question... I have Cisco 1605-R, I want to get the amount of data transfered to and from every IP address from my subnet or a period as a number. Are there any programs, scripts to do that and what do I need to do at Cisco side to enable that? ------------------------------------------------------------ Program source is just a special case of a patch Andrey Novikov NAG-RIPN [http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=447099] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 7: 0:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.timnordeste.com.br (mail.timnordeste.com.br [200.249.140.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E1B37B636 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 07:00:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rmariz@timnordeste.com.br) Received: from timnordeste.com.br ([10.80.72.249]) by mail.timnordeste.com.br (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.3 (Intl)) with ESMTP id 2000050410470493:430 ; Thu, 4 May 2000 10:47:04 -0300 Message-ID: <39115679.92B23232@timnordeste.com.br> Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 10:52:41 +0000 From: Renato Mariz de Moraes X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrey Novikov Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Simple traffic accounting References: <00050417341207.05494@novikov.web2000.ru> X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on intrape01/Timnordeste(Release 5.0.3 (Intl)|21 March 2000) at 05/04/2000 10:47:05 AM, Serialize by Router on intrape01/Timnordeste(Release 5.0.3 (Intl)|21 March 2000) at 05/04/2000 10:56:49 AM, Serialize complete at 05/04/2000 10:56:49 AM Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Take a look at http://ee-staff.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html This is the site of Multi Router Traffic Grapher (MRTG). It is free! I hope this help, Renato. Andrey Novikov wrote: > > Hello, > > Please excuse me for a lamer question... > > I have Cisco 1605-R, I want to get the amount of data > transfered to and from every IP address from my subnet or > a period as a number. Are there any programs, scripts to > do that and what do I need to do at Cisco side to enable > that? > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Program source is just a special case of a patch > > Andrey Novikov NAG-RIPN > [http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=447099] > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- "To reboot type win" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 8:44:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from stipe.1stup.com (stipe.1stup.com [209.143.242.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2CF737B63F for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 08:44:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from veager (JCSNB107-32.splitrock.net [209.253.4.9]) by stipe.1stup.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id IAA01609 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 08:44:34 -0700 Message-ID: <005301bfb5df$a8c0b800$0904fdd1@siteplus.net> From: "Jim Weeks" To: References: Subject: Re: Dead seagate drive > pardon me Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 11:44:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew wrote, > What does 'camcontrol tur daX' and 'camcontrol stop daX; camcontrol start > daX; camcontorl tur daX' do for you? > > I've got an RZ55 that gets 'confused' on initial spin up and I have to > stop and start it manually in order to get it working. Pardon me I meant to send this to questions, but I do appreciate the response. In my haste to patch the configuration and get this machine back into production I put in the wrong address. I was on my way out of town when this happened. In answer to your question, I have tried camcontrol and the drive responds saying that it is ready. I still get a not configured error when I try to mount. I can run fsck /dev/da1 and everything seems to check out. It says that the drive has been marked clean, but still no mount. I am confused by one point fsck reports the drive as rda1 rather than da1. Thanks, Jim ________________________________________________________ 1stUp.com - Free the Web® Get your free Internet access at http://www.1stUp.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 8:59:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from glacier.binc.net (glacier.binc.net [205.173.176.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0788137C04A for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 08:59:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webmaster@deancare.com) Received: from dtjack (mail.deancare.com [208.212.83.68]) by glacier.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA07986 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 10:59:53 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000504110004.009043f0@mailbag.com> X-Sender: deanweb@mailbag.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 11:00:04 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Jack Wenger Subject: VIRUS WARNING Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org WARNING There is a computer virus called "ILOVEYOU" that is circulating. If you get any email (internal or external) and the topic says ILOVEYOU or there is an attachment called iloveyou.exe or any variation of that, DO NOT open the attachment. We've got over 1000+ messages here, this thing will attach itself to notesmail, groupwise, M$ (any) and all associated mail lists. Jack Wenger Network Engineer Dean Health, Madison, WI. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 9: 0:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.149.48.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B81237C09E for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 09:00:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhs@jhs.muc.de) Received: (qmail 19596 invoked from network); 4 May 2000 16:04:30 -0000 Received: from jhs.muc.de (193.149.49.84) by slarti.muc.de with SMTP; 4 May 2000 16:04:30 -0000 Received: from park.jhs.no_domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jhs.muc.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02931; Thu, 4 May 2000 13:34:28 GMT (envelope-from jhs@park.jhs.no_domain) Message-Id: <200005041334.NAA02931@jhs.muc.de> To: "H. Paul Hammann" Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Summary: Remote controlled power strip From: "Julian Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd - Unix & Internet consultancy X-Web: http://www.jhs.muc.de http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 05 Apr 2000 18:42:43 CDT." <14571.52856.649908.494359@elvis.mu.org> Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 15:34:28 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > From: "H. Paul Hammann" > 2. The interface is menu based. This can be overcome with a little > bit of expect scripting. These may help in /usr/ports/ sysutils/bkpupsd sysutils/upsd sysutils/upsmon > Mounting it vertically will require ......... Rubber gloves & goggles & a plastic bucket maybe ? I haven't taken the lid of our horizontal APC UPS, but it's damn heavy, & I beleive there lead acid batteries in there. They might be sealed, but I sure wouldn't mount my car battery (also sulphuric acid) 90 degrees off from normal. Suggest you check carefuly first :-) Julian - Julian Stacey http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 9: 6: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.tcworks.net (ns.tcworks.net [216.61.218.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB72437C093 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 09:05:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Received: from tcworks.net (xcess@stuck.sticky.org [216.61.218.6]) by ns.tcworks.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA61137; Thu, 4 May 2000 11:02:14 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Message-ID: <3911A00B.BBD46845@tcworks.net> Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 11:06:35 -0500 From: Chris Cook X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jack Wenger Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VIRUS WARNING References: <3.0.6.32.20000504110004.009043f0@mailbag.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jack Wenger wrote: > > WARNING > There is a computer virus called "ILOVEYOU" that is circulating. > If you get any email (internal or external) and the > topic says ILOVEYOU or there is an attachment > called iloveyou.exe or any variation of that, DO NOT open the > attachment. Yes, and it will screw up a winblows system... here is a filter for your sendmail.cf file: ################ ## VIRUS CRAP ## ################ HSubject: $>Check_Subject D{MPat}ILOVEYOU D{MMsg}This message may contain the ILOVEYOU virus. SCheck_Subject R${MPat} $* $#error $: 553 ${MMsg} RRe: ${MPat} $* $#error $: 553 ${MMsg} ** MAKE SURE YOU PUT A TAB AFTER THE $* SIGNS ** -- Chris o----< ccook@tcworks.net >-----------------------------------------o |Chris Cook - Network Admin | TCWORKS.NET - http://www.tcworks.net | |The Computer Works ISP | FreeBSD - http://www.freebsd.org | o------------------------------------------------------------------o To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 9: 8: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from stingray.ivision.co.uk (avengers.ivision.co.uk [212.25.224.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D795C37C09F for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 09:07:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from manar@ivision.co.uk) Received: from [212.25.224.17] (helo=pretender2) by stingray.ivision.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.04 #1) id 12nOA8-0006Y3-00; Thu, 4 May 2000 17:07:40 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000504165826.009856f0@stingray.ivision.co.uk> X-Sender: manarpop@stingray.ivision.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 16:58:26 +0100 To: Jack Wenger From: Manar Hussain Subject: Re: VIRUS WARNING Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000504110004.009043f0@mailbag.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We got badly hit by it in the UK (See: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_736000/736080.stm) We were chatting about it to a fr number of clients so we set up a low volume list for anyone *tracking/resolving* the virus to discuss it (not for users but for admin/ops people wanting to understand it/fix it). To subscribe to the list, send a message to: You can start a subscription for an alternate address, for example "john@host.domain", just add a hyphen and your address (with '=' instead of '@') after the command word: Mail antiloveyou-get.1_199@virusalerts.ivision.co.uk to get the backlog of mails (currently relatively few) and before you start posting. Mail antiloveyou-help@virusalerts.ivision.co.uk for more information (including info on retrieving archived messages. Manar -- Manar Hussain, Director Email: manar@ivision.co.uk Mobile: (07971) 277821 Internet Vision Tel: 020 7589 4500 60 Albert Court Fax: 020 7589 4522 Prince Consort Road info@ivision.co.uk London. SW7 2BE http://www.ivision.co.uk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 9:11:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mokimaki.ethereal.net (mokimaki.ethereal.net [209.228.7.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCE5637C09E for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 09:11:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkb@mokimaki.ethereal.net) Received: (from jkb@localhost) by mokimaki.ethereal.net (8.10.0.Beta10/8.10.0.Beta10) id e44GAuR59518; Thu, 4 May 2000 09:10:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 09:10:56 -0700 From: Jan Koum To: Jack Wenger Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VIRUS WARNING Message-ID: <20000504091056.G72341@ethereal.net> References: <3.0.6.32.20000504110004.009043f0@mailbag.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.11i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000504110004.009043f0@mailbag.com>; from webmaster@deancare.com on Thu, May 04, 2000 at 11:00:04AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD mokimaki.ethereal.net 3.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE X-Unix-Uptime: 1:35AM up 11 days, 19:35, 27 users, load averages: 0.42, 0.27, 0.20 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ohh fuck. i was hoping people really did love me. ohh well. On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 11:00:04AM -0500, Jack Wenger wrote: > WARNING > There is a computer virus called "ILOVEYOU" that is circulating. > If you get any email (internal or external) and the > topic says ILOVEYOU or there is an attachment > called iloveyou.exe or any variation of that, DO NOT open the > attachment. > > We've got over 1000+ messages here, this thing will attach itself to > notesmail, groupwise, M$ (any) and all associated mail lists. > > > Jack Wenger > Network Engineer > Dean Health, Madison, WI. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 9:15:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from loki.intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E4737C0A8 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 09:15:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@loki.intrepid.net) Received: (from mark@localhost) by loki.intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA20229 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 May 2000 12:15:12 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 12:15:12 -0400 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Slightly OT: FreeBSD Billing Packages Message-ID: <20000504121512.C24897@intrepid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm looking for a billing/accounting package that runs under FreeBSD. I've taken a look at Freeside, and it seems to work OK, but it's pretty ISP specific; I'm looking for something a little more general purpose (more like Quickbooks or Peachtree). TIA, --Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 9:46:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.wirehub.nl (smtp.wirehub.nl [195.86.128.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B4C37C0E1 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 09:46:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Ben.Grimm@wirehub.net) Received: from ben.wirehub.nl (ben.wirehub.nl [195.86.25.13]) by smtp.wirehub.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D611C1CF9 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 18:46:14 +0200 (CEST) From: Ben C.O.Grimm To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VIRUS WARNING Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 18:46:14 +0200 Organization: Wirehub! Internet Engineering Message-ID: References: <3.0.6.32.20000504110004.009043f0_mailbag.com@ns.sol.net> <3911A00B.BBD46845_tcworks.net@ns.sol.net> In-Reply-To: <3911A00B.BBD46845_tcworks.net@ns.sol.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 04 May 2000 16:06:21 +0000, Chris Cook wrote: > Jack Wenger wrote: > > > > WARNING > > There is a computer virus called "ILOVEYOU" that is circulating. > > If you get any email (internal or external) and the > > topic says ILOVEYOU or there is an attachment > > called iloveyou.exe or any variation of that, DO NOT open the > > attachment. > > Yes, and it will screw up a winblows system... here is a filter for your > sendmail.cf file: For anyone using Postfix: in /etc/postfix/main.cf header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/love_access in /etc/postfix/love_access: /^Subject:.*ILOVEYOU/ REJECT Resulting message: May 4 18:12:15 smtp postfix/cleanup[36586]: warning: 2A645C1CB8: reject: header Subject: ILOVEYOU -- - Ben C. O. Grimm ----------------- Ben.Grimm@wirehub.net - - Wirehub! Internet Engineering - http://www.wirehub.net/ - - Wirehub! Backbone --- http://doema.wirehub.net/wirehub/ - - Private Ponderings ------- http://libertas.wirehub.net/ - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 9:54:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from brent.tccsweb.com (cr314206-a.crdva1.bc.wave.home.com [24.113.53.176]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF8E37C0F8 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 09:54:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brent@talou.net) Received: from talou.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by brent.tccsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00432 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 09:54:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brent@talou.net) Message-ID: <3911AB59.2F5437B7@talou.net> Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 09:54:49 -0700 From: Brent Rector X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Dual Homed (Temporarily) I hope... route questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Good Day Everyone! We are in the process of changing out upstream provider... What I would like to do is do an ifconfig for the new i.p.'s that our new provider has supplied to us.. My question is how do I configure the routing table to allow for broadcasting on a different subnet.. i.e. Our current default gate is x.x.x.x and I would like our new i.p.'s that I will ifconfig to the interface to respond through the new y.y.y.y gateway. Any help would be appreciated!! Brent -- Brent L. Rector brent@talou.net SysAdmin Talou Internet Services Corp. http://www.talou.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me to advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product. -- OWNED? MS: Who's Been In Your Computer Today? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 10: 2:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 047F037C11C for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 10:02:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 13950 invoked by uid 1000); 4 May 2000 17:02:33 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 May 2000 17:02:33 -0000 Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 13:02:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VIRUS WARNING In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 4 May 2000 owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: [...] : For anyone using Postfix: : : in /etc/postfix/main.cf : : header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/love_access : : in /etc/postfix/love_access: : : /^Subject:.*ILOVEYOU/ REJECT : : Resulting message: : : May 4 18:12:15 smtp postfix/cleanup[36586]: warning: 2A645C1CB8: : reject: header Subject: ILOVEYOU : And for anyone using QMail with Michael Graff's anti-spam patch (http://www.flame.org/qmail): control/badheaders: h R ^Subject: .*ILOVEYOU which results in: May 4 12:58:51 alpha qmail-smtpd[77192]: REJECT JUNK_THRESHOLD [216.95.146.6, epsilon.lucida.qc.ca] (HELO epsilon.lucida.qc.ca) 0/1000/R Matt Heckaman matt@arpa.mail.net http://www.lucida.qc.ca -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5Ea0pdMMtMcA1U5ARAip2AKDSaNbogohFiREZbXRbjC0kNRIasACglNyL jhkfINWTstqzMDcfxuETWz4= =YhYJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 10: 8:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from thud.tbe.net (thud.tbe.net [209.123.109.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6731837B560 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 10:08:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gary@tbe.net) Received: by thud.tbe.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 216481C948E; Thu, 4 May 2000 13:05:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thud.tbe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B342DCF4D; Thu, 4 May 2000 13:05:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 13:05:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gary D. Margiotta" To: "Ben C.O.Grimm" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VIRUS WARNING In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Also one more that was just posted, which will grab the content in the e-mail so as to prevent rejection of acutal 'real' mail with the same subject header (though I don't know of anyone who would use that actual subject, but): /Content.*LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.TXT.vbs/ REJECT -Gary On Thu, 4 May 2000, Ben C.O.Grimm wrote: > On 04 May 2000 16:06:21 +0000, Chris Cook wrote: > > > Jack Wenger wrote: > > > > > > WARNING > > > There is a computer virus called "ILOVEYOU" that is circulating. > > > If you get any email (internal or external) and the > > > topic says ILOVEYOU or there is an attachment > > > called iloveyou.exe or any variation of that, DO NOT open the > > > attachment. > > > > Yes, and it will screw up a winblows system... here is a filter for your > > sendmail.cf file: > > For anyone using Postfix: > > in /etc/postfix/main.cf > > header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/love_access > > in /etc/postfix/love_access: > > /^Subject:.*ILOVEYOU/ REJECT > > Resulting message: > > May 4 18:12:15 smtp postfix/cleanup[36586]: warning: 2A645C1CB8: > reject: header Subject: ILOVEYOU > > -- > - Ben C. O. Grimm ----------------- Ben.Grimm@wirehub.net - > - Wirehub! Internet Engineering - http://www.wirehub.net/ - > - Wirehub! Backbone --- http://doema.wirehub.net/wirehub/ - > - Private Ponderings ------- http://libertas.wirehub.net/ - > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 10:13:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from naiad.eclipse.net.uk (naiad.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525CF37BE57 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 10:13:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: by naiad.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix, from userid 475) id 3178A13DFA; Thu, 04 May 2000 18:16:06 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:16:06 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson To: "Gary D. Margiotta" Cc: "Ben C.O.Grimm" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VIRUS WARNING Message-ID: <20000504181606.K53118@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from gary@tbe.net on Thu, May 04, 2000 at 01:05:39PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 01:05:39PM -0400, Gary D. Margiotta wrote: > Also one more that was just posted, which will grab the content in the > e-mail so as to prevent rejection of acutal 'real' mail with the same > subject header (though I don't know of anyone who would use that actual > subject, but): Yay, that will get all these hundreds of thousands of warnings too, which are causing far more mail volume than the worm! Content Technologies had a great response to the virus over here. Spammed out an advert for their scanners listing all the recipient addresses in To:.....doh! (hmm, and we have just had a bit about this hitting parliament.uk on the news: anyone care to guess which piece of software appears in outbound Received: lines? :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 10:27:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from laurel.us.net (laurel.us.net [198.240.72.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D89C37B61C for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 10:27:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stimpy@laurel.us.net) Received: from localhost (stimpy@localhost) by laurel.us.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA66737 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 13:27:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Provider: US Net - Where Business Connects! (tm) - 301-361-USNET US Net Web Site: http://www.us.net/ or via Email: info@us.net Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 13:27:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Brent Scott To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: the iloveyou fix works for 8.9.3, any fix for 8.8.8/8.8.8 or 8.8.8/8.8.6? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm no sendmail guru, but I tried dropping the 8.9.3 code fix in a couple of spots in the .cf files for our 8.8.8-based servers and they didn't take. Any thoughts on which ruleset/location to modify in 8.8.8? Thanks Brent Scott -- >> Have you checked your spare tire pressure lately? << To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 11:20:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8D237C183 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 11:20:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jer@jorsm.com) Received: by mercury.jorsm.com (Postfix, from userid 1850) id 8F3F4E4A6F; Thu, 4 May 2000 13:20:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.jorsm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8388DE0C04; Thu, 4 May 2000 13:20:17 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 13:20:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeremy Shaffner To: "Ben C.O.Grimm" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VIRUS WARNING In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 4 May 2000, Ben C.O.Grimm wrote: > On 04 May 2000 16:06:21 +0000, Chris Cook wrote: > > > Jack Wenger wrote: > > > > > > WARNING > > > There is a computer virus called "ILOVEYOU" that is circulating. > > > If you get any email (internal or external) and the > > > topic says ILOVEYOU or there is an attachment > > > called iloveyou.exe or any variation of that, DO NOT open the > > > attachment. > > > > Yes, and it will screw up a winblows system... here is a filter for your > > sendmail.cf file: > > For anyone using Postfix: > > in /etc/postfix/main.cf > > header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/love_access > > in /etc/postfix/love_access: > > /^Subject:.*ILOVEYOU/ REJECT This regexp needs to be fixed. An attempt to subscribe to the list resulted in a bounced confirmation: May 4 13:18:11 mercury postfix/cleanup[52605]: warning: 35482E4A4A: reject: header Subject: confirm subscribe to antiloveyou@virusalerts.ivision.co.uk -Jeremy --- Jeremy Shaffner System Administrator JORSM Internet jer@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com/~jer/pgp.key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 11:38:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailrelay.wirehub.nl (mailrelay.wirehub.nl [195.86.25.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B74637BA1E for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 11:38:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Ben.Grimm@wirehub.net) Received: from bigben.wirehub.net (bigben.wirehub.net [195.86.114.90]) by mailrelay.wirehub.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA16240; Thu, 4 May 2000 20:38:37 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 20:38:37 +0200 (DST) From: "Ben C. O. Grimm" Reply-To: "Ben C. O. Grimm" To: Jeremy Shaffner Cc: "Ben C.O.Grimm" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VIRUS WARNING In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> For anyone using Postfix: >> in /etc/postfix/main.cf >> header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/love_access >> in /etc/postfix/love_access: >> /^Subject:.*ILOVEYOU/ REJECT >This regexp needs to be fixed. An attempt to subscribe to the list >resulted in a bounced confirmation: >May 4 13:18:11 mercury postfix/cleanup[52605]: warning: 35482E4A4A: >reject: header Subject: confirm subscribe to >antiloveyou@virusalerts.ivision.co.uk The docs say: # By default, matching is case-INsensative, although following # the second slash with an 'i' will reverse this. So /^Subject:.*ILOVEYOU/i REJECT should fix that. -- - Ben C. O. Grimm ----------------- Ben.Grimm@wirehub.net - - Wirehub! Internet Engineering - http://www.wirehub.net/ - - Wirehub! Backbone --- http://doema.wirehub.net/wirehub/ - - Private Ponderings ------- http://libertas.wirehub.net/ - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 11:40:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FBA437B58D for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 11:40:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jer@jorsm.com) Received: by mercury.jorsm.com (Postfix, from userid 1850) id 93418E4A4A; Thu, 4 May 2000 13:40:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.jorsm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E461E0C02; Thu, 4 May 2000 13:40:38 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 13:40:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeremy Shaffner To: "Ben C. O. Grimm" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VIRUS WARNING In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 4 May 2000, Ben C. O. Grimm wrote: > >> For anyone using Postfix: > >> in /etc/postfix/main.cf > >> header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/love_access > >> in /etc/postfix/love_access: > >> /^Subject:.*ILOVEYOU/ REJECT > > >This regexp needs to be fixed. An attempt to subscribe to the list > >resulted in a bounced confirmation: > >May 4 13:18:11 mercury postfix/cleanup[52605]: warning: 35482E4A4A: > >reject: header Subject: confirm subscribe to > >antiloveyou@virusalerts.ivision.co.uk > > The docs say: > > # By default, matching is case-INsensative, although following > # the second slash with an 'i' will reverse this. > > So > > /^Subject:.*ILOVEYOU/i REJECT > > should fix that. > Heh..well isn't that backasswords? :) --- Jeremy Shaffner System Administrator JORSM Internet jer@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com/~jer/pgp.key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 11:58: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9914337C281 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 11:57:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jer@jorsm.com) Received: by mercury.jorsm.com (Postfix, from userid 1850) id 494CAE4A71; Thu, 4 May 2000 13:57:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.jorsm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7ABBE0C04 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 13:57:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 13:57:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeremy Shaffner To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VIRUS WARNING In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000504110004.009043f0@mailbag.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We're blocking mail now via the Postfix filter. But to get existing messages in our userse mailboxes, we're using expire_mail.pl: ./expire_mail.pl -v -s ".*ILOVEYOU$" /var/mail/* > iloveyou.log 2>&1 ...seems to be working. YMMV. Use the -d option first if you want it to go through the motions without deleting any messages. The script is available via CPAN's mail script archive. --- Jeremy Shaffner System Administrator JORSM Internet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 12:10:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF0237C276 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 12:10:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jer@jorsm.com) Received: by mercury.jorsm.com (Postfix, from userid 1850) id DA969E4A11; Thu, 4 May 2000 14:10:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.jorsm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB634E0C02 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 14:10:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 14:10:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeremy Shaffner To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VIRUS WARNING In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 4 May 2000, Ben C. O. Grimm wrote: > >> For anyone using Postfix: > >> in /etc/postfix/main.cf > >> header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/love_access > >> in /etc/postfix/love_access: > >> /^Subject:.*ILOVEYOU/ REJECT > > >This regexp needs to be fixed. An attempt to subscribe to the list > >resulted in a bounced confirmation: > >May 4 13:18:11 mercury postfix/cleanup[52605]: warning: 35482E4A4A: > >reject: header Subject: confirm subscribe to > >antiloveyou@virusalerts.ivision.co.uk > > The docs say: > > # By default, matching is case-INsensative, although following > # the second slash with an 'i' will reverse this. > > So > > /^Subject:.*ILOVEYOU/i REJECT > If anyone's not already filtering on Content-Type instead of Subject, and you don't want to reject warnings, etc: /^Subject:.*ILOVEYOU$/i REJECT -Jeremy --- Jeremy Shaffner System Administrator JORSM Internet jer@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com/~jer/pgp.key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 12:31:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from laurel.us.net (laurel.us.net [198.240.72.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F6737C172 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 12:31:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stimpy@laurel.us.net) Received: from localhost (stimpy@localhost) by laurel.us.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA84686 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 15:31:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Provider: US Net - Where Business Connects! (tm) - 301-361-USNET US Net Web Site: http://www.us.net/ or via Email: info@us.net Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 15:31:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Brent Scott To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VIRUS WARNING In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hmm, I looked all over the current and pre-1997 script archives at www.cpan.org/scripts and couldn't find expire_mail. Anyone have a direct link? Thanks, Brent Scott -- >> Have you checked your spare tire pressure lately? << On Thu, 4 May 2000, Jeremy Shaffner wrote: > > We're blocking mail now via the Postfix filter. But to get existing > messages in our userse mailboxes, we're using expire_mail.pl: > > ./expire_mail.pl -v -s ".*ILOVEYOU$" /var/mail/* > iloveyou.log 2>&1 > > ...seems to be working. YMMV. Use the -d option first if you want it to > go through the motions without deleting any messages. > > The script is available via CPAN's mail script archive. > > --- > Jeremy Shaffner > System Administrator > JORSM Internet > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 12:36: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC5037C248 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 12:36:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jer@jorsm.com) Received: by mercury.jorsm.com (Postfix, from userid 1850) id 0F84CE4A0F; Thu, 4 May 2000 14:35:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.jorsm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E63E0C02; Thu, 4 May 2000 14:35:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 14:35:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeremy Shaffner To: Brent Scott Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VIRUS WARNING In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Here's a hit from Google: ftp://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/perl/CPAN/scripts/mailstuff/ On Thu, 4 May 2000, Brent Scott wrote: > Hmm, I looked all over the current and pre-1997 script archives at > www.cpan.org/scripts and couldn't find expire_mail. Anyone have a direct > link? > > Thanks, > Brent Scott > > -- > >> Have you checked your spare tire pressure lately? << > > On Thu, 4 May 2000, Jeremy Shaffner wrote: > > > > > We're blocking mail now via the Postfix filter. But to get existing > > messages in our userse mailboxes, we're using expire_mail.pl: > > > > ./expire_mail.pl -v -s ".*ILOVEYOU$" /var/mail/* > iloveyou.log 2>&1 > > > > ...seems to be working. YMMV. Use the -d option first if you want it to > > go through the motions without deleting any messages. > > > > The script is available via CPAN's mail script archive. > > > > --- > > Jeremy Shaffner > > System Administrator > > JORSM Internet > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > --- Jeremy Shaffner System Administrator JORSM Internet jer@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com/~jer/pgp.key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 13: 8: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.numachi.com (numachi.numachi.com [198.175.254.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3A31737C1E1 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 13:08:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reichert@numachi.com) Received: (qmail 112 invoked by uid 1001); 4 May 2000 20:07:54 -0000 Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 16:07:54 -0400 From: Brian Reichert To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: LinkSys NP100 vs the universe Message-ID: <20000504160754.A29902@numachi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre4i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This may not quite count as an update on my situation, but I have a few more datapoints. Quick recap: Problem machine is a Sony VAIO PCG-C1XS running FreeBSD-4.0-RELEASE. I have a LinkSys NP100 PCMCIA card (see for details.) The above does not reflect that Win98 see the MAC address as 00:e0:98:77:1a:b2. General symptom: The card _mostly_ works, in that only some kinds of hosts can it interact with in certain ways. I've come up with a fairly simple test environment, that illuminates things a little bit. On a hub, I have: - my primary desktop machine, a Dell running 3.4-RELEASE. It's interface: % ifconfig xl0 xl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 10.1.135.160 netmask 0xffff0000 broadcast 10.1.255.255 ether 00:50:04:7b:22:aa media: 100baseTX supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP - and my problem laptop: % ifconfig ed0 ed0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::3d4:ffff:fe03:20%ed0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xa inet 10.1.135.250 netmask 0xffff0000 broadcast 10.1.255.255 ether 01:d4:ff:03:00:20 The laptop's was successfully configured via DHCP from the desktop. The laptop can ping the desktop. Both machine's arp tables (modulo 'permanent'): % arp -na ? (10.1.1.1) at 8:0:20:80:df:6a [ethernet] ? (10.1.1.10) at 8:0:20:85:bd:d7 [ethernet] ? (10.1.135.160) at 0:50:4:7b:22:aa permanent [ethernet] ? (10.1.135.250) at 1:d4:ff:3:0:20 [ethernet] The laptop can ping the desktop, and itself. The laptop can ssh into the desktop, and itself. (Both tests to itself were via 10.1.135.250, not 127.0.0.1, if that makes any difference.) On the laptop, using 'tcpdump -ni ed0 ether host 01:d4:ff:03:00:20': Trying to ping the laptop yields: tcpdump: listening on ed0 14:26:28.876328 10.1.135.160 > 10.1.135.250: icmp: echo request 14:26:29.876817 10.1.135.160 > 10.1.135.250: icmp: echo request 14:26:30.886790 10.1.135.160 > 10.1.135.250: icmp: echo request 14:26:31.896756 10.1.135.160 > 10.1.135.250: icmp: echo request 14:26:32.906724 10.1.135.160 > 10.1.135.250: icmp: echo request 14:26:33.916693 10.1.135.160 > 10.1.135.250: icmp: echo request 14:26:34.926665 10.1.135.160 > 10.1.135.250: icmp: echo request Trying to ssh into the laptop yields: tcpdump: listening on ed0 14:28:18.876206 10.1.135.160.1021 > 10.1.135.250.22: S 2531066914:2531066914(0) win 16384 (DF) 14:28:21.703686 10.1.135.160.1021 > 10.1.135.250.22: S 2531066914:2531066914(0) win 16384 (DF) 14:28:27.703524 10.1.135.160.1021 > 10.1.135.250.22: S 2531066914:2531066914(0) win 16384 (DF) 14:28:39.703184 10.1.135.160.1021 > 10.1.135.250.22: S 2531066914:2531066914(0) win 16384 (DF) After these experiments, netstat yields: % netstat -in -I ed0 Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll ed0 1500 01:d4:ff:03:00:20 185090 66 2001 0 0 ed0 1500 fe80:a::3d4 fe80:a::3d4:ffff: 185090 66 2001 0 0 ed0 1500 10.1/16 10.1.135.250 185090 66 2001 0 0 I have experimented with: - setting the 'debug' flag of the ed driver - removing IPv6 from the kernel If I set # sysctl -w net.inet.icmp.bmcastecho=1 I can respond to pings, but nothing else. Cameron Slye , noting the FBSD MAC address, said 'I think that's a multicast address :) No, it won't work..'. This utility was suggested: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~wpaul/mac.tar.gz but I don't know how to apply that to FBSD-4.0-R. I _can_ ssh to various hosts with this card, and hence can get some work done, but I've having a real rough time understanding these symptoms. Any advice is appreciated. I can dredge up more details as needed. -- Brian 'you Bastard' Reichert reichert@numachi.com 37 Crystal Ave. #303 Daytime number: (603) 434-6842 Derry NH 03038-1713 USA Intel architecture: the left-hand path To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 17:50: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hydrant.intranova.net (msb-ts-slip07.UMDNJ.EDU [130.219.28.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D6837B668 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 17:49:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oogali@intranova.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hydrant.intranova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF93EE121D; Thu, 4 May 2000 20:50:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 20:50:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Omachonu Ogali To: "Ben C. O. Grimm" Cc: Jeremy Shaffner , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VIRUS WARNING In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 4 May 2000, Ben C. O. Grimm wrote: > >> For anyone using Postfix: > >> in /etc/postfix/main.cf > >> header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/love_access > >> in /etc/postfix/love_access: > >> /^Subject:.*ILOVEYOU/ REJECT > > >This regexp needs to be fixed. An attempt to subscribe to the list > >resulted in a bounced confirmation: > >May 4 13:18:11 mercury postfix/cleanup[52605]: warning: 35482E4A4A: > >reject: header Subject: confirm subscribe to > >antiloveyou@virusalerts.ivision.co.uk > > The docs say: > > # By default, matching is case-INsensative, although following > # the second slash with an 'i' will reverse this. > > So > > /^Subject:.*ILOVEYOU/i REJECT > > should fix that. Shouldn't the following work for Postfix: /^Subject:.*ILOVEYOU/i 550 I Never Loved You I'm staring at the documenatation, but this just turns into an OK... -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Omachonu Ogali oogali@intranova.net | | Intranova Networking Group http://tribune.intranova.net | | PGP Key ID: 0xBFE60839 | | PGP Fingerprint: C8 51 14 FD 2A 87 53 D1 E3 AA 12 12 01 93 BD 34 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 17:55:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.wirehub.nl (smtp.wirehub.nl [195.86.128.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7FA237B5A5 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 17:55:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Ben.Grimm@wirehub.net) Received: from bigben.wirehub.net (bigben.wirehub.net [195.86.114.90]) by smtp.wirehub.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51065C1C89; Fri, 5 May 2000 02:55:20 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 02:55:19 +0200 (DST) From: "Ben C. O. Grimm" Reply-To: "Ben C. O. Grimm" To: Omachonu Ogali Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VIRUS WARNING In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 4 May 2000, Omachonu Ogali wrote: >> /^Subject:.*ILOVEYOU/i REJECT >Shouldn't the following work for Postfix: >/^Subject:.*ILOVEYOU/i 550 I Never Loved You >I'm staring at the documenatation, but this just turns into an OK... No. Header checks can only have an 'OK' (useless, of course) or 'REJECT' value. I tripped over that one myseld. You cannot define your own errors. -- - Ben C. O. Grimm ----------------- Ben.Grimm@wirehub.net - - Wirehub! Internet Engineering - http://www.wirehub.net/ - - Wirehub! Backbone --- http://doema.wirehub.net/wirehub/ - - Private Ponderings ------- http://libertas.wirehub.net/ - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 18:46:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hydrant.intranova.net (msb-ts-slip07.UMDNJ.EDU [130.219.28.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC57637B6AF for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 18:46:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oogali@intranova.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hydrant.intranova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D100E121D; Thu, 4 May 2000 21:46:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 21:46:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Omachonu Ogali To: "Ben C. O. Grimm" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VIRUS WARNING In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I took a look at the change log, it says now that all numeric responses are now seen as 'OK'. Heh, there should have been a change to the [misleading] documentation. > - Incompatible SMTPD access map changes: > > An all numeric right hand side now means OK. This is for better > cooperation with out-of-band authentication mechanisms such as > POP before SMTP etc. On Fri, 5 May 2000, Ben C. O. Grimm wrote: > On Thu, 4 May 2000, Omachonu Ogali wrote: > > >> /^Subject:.*ILOVEYOU/i REJECT > > >Shouldn't the following work for Postfix: > >/^Subject:.*ILOVEYOU/i 550 I Never Loved You > > >I'm staring at the documenatation, but this just turns into an OK... > > No. Header checks can only have an 'OK' (useless, of course) or > 'REJECT' value. I tripped over that one myseld. You cannot > define your own errors. > > -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Omachonu Ogali oogali@intranova.net | | Intranova Networking Group http://tribune.intranova.net | | PGP Key ID: 0xBFE60839 | | PGP Fingerprint: C8 51 14 FD 2A 87 53 D1 E3 AA 12 12 01 93 BD 34 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 18:58:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pop.idx.com.au (pop.idx.com.au [203.14.30.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5AC37B6E4 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 18:55:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dannyh@idx.com.au) Received: from freebsd.freebsd.org (tntwc01-3-239.idx.com.au [203.166.3.239]) by pop.idx.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA08968; Fri, 5 May 2000 11:51:52 +1000 From: Danny To: Mark Conway Wirt , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Slightly OT: FreeBSD Billing Packages Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 11:57:04 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain References: <20000504121512.C24897@intrepid.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00050611580600.00335@freebsd.freebsd.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There is one called billmax. from www.billmax.com I haven't tested it yet!! But people claim is very good. On Fri, 05 May 2000, Mark Conway Wirt wrote: > I'm looking for a billing/accounting package that runs under FreeBSD. > I've taken a look at Freeside, and it seems to work OK, but it's > pretty ISP specific; I'm looking for something a little more general > purpose (more like Quickbooks or Peachtree). > > TIA, > > --Mark > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 19:28:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from manor.msen.com (manor.msen.com [148.59.4.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0000737B5CB for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 19:28:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wayne@staff.msen.com) Received: (from wayne@localhost) by manor.msen.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA01288 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 4 May 2000 22:28:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wayne) Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 22:28:48 -0400 From: "Michael R. Wayne" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ipfw causing terrible squid performance Message-ID: <20000504222848.A1016@staff.msen.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org After several months of "suggesting" to our users that they should use our webcache, we decided to investigate giving them no choice and force some of them through it using ipfw. On a test network, we have a couple of Win9X boxes, a 2.3STABLE1 squid box configured for transparant mode (following the directions in the squid FAQ chapter 17) and a FreeBSD 3.4STABLE router box w/ 2 ethernets so we can intercept packets heading for the net. If I configure the Win9X boxes to manually use squid, all is fine, preformance is what I would expect. Telling the Win9X boxes to go "direct to the internet", causes them to hit the ipfw rules on the router box: 00301 allow tcp from 148.59.101.66 to any 00302 fwd 148.59.101.66 tcp from any to any 80 And, on 148.59.101.66, the squid box, we have: 00301 allow tcp from 148.59.101.66 to any 00302 fwd 127.0.0.1,3128 log logamount 100 tcp from any to any 80 Everything works PERFECTLY with one exception: It takes 8-15 seconds to load a new page and about 3-7 seconds to load one that should be in the cache (even from a lightly loaded local web server). Netscape sits there with "Connect Host XXX contacted..." and checking the lights on the switch, there is no ethernet activity for most of this time. Obviously, this is not acceptable to drop into production. I'm suspecting that it's a problem in ipfw since pointing the browser at squid works fine but nothing seems obvious. There's no load on the router box. Where do I start digging? /\/\ \/\/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 19:36:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (serial1-2-velvet-brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0693437B730 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 19:35:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA51298 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 12:35:41 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 12:35:40 +1000 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw causing terrible squid performance In-Reply-To: <20000504222848.A1016@staff.msen.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 4 May 2000, Michael R. Wayne wrote: > Everything works PERFECTLY with one exception: It takes 8-15 > seconds to load a new page and about 3-7 seconds to load one that > should be in the cache (even from a lightly loaded local web server). > Netscape sits there with "Connect Host XXX contacted..." and checking > the lights on the switch, there is no ethernet activity for most > of this time. Obviously, this is not acceptable to drop into > production. This is just a stab in the dark, but does adding in DNS entries for the IP addresses you are testing with make any difference? I notice 148.59.101.66 at least, doesn't have a reverse entry. Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ Sensation Internet Services http://info.sensation.net.au/ Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 20:29:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA6F37B5F2 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 20:29:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA34355; Thu, 4 May 2000 20:28:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <39123FF4.262E330D@gorean.org> Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 20:28:52 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0422 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Renato Mariz de Moraes Cc: Andrey Novikov , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Simple traffic accounting References: <00050417341207.05494@novikov.web2000.ru> <39115679.92B23232@timnordeste.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Renato Mariz de Moraes wrote: > > Take a look at > > http://ee-staff.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html > > This is the site of Multi Router Traffic Grapher (MRTG). It > is free! Better yet, use the port. It will handle the dependency on gd for you. Wish I had that for solaris.... Doug -- Excess on occasion is exhilarating. It prevents moderation from acquiring the deadening effect of a habit. -- W. Somerset Maugham To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 23: 8:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from super-g.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19C637B991 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 23:08:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: by super-g.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3C376B416; Fri, 5 May 2000 02:08:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 25073B401; Fri, 5 May 2000 02:08:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 02:08:20 -0400 (EDT) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: Jan Knepper Cc: thomas@hentschel.net, FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Startup FreeBSD ISP host. In-Reply-To: <390F5F11.736114D5@smartsoft.cc> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Take a quick peek at dslreports.com... They can qualify you through a number of dsl providers. Covad is reporting your address as "not found", which sounds like an error. If you don't get a response on dslreports, try putting in a neighboring address to see what you get. You appear to be about 20.000 feet out from your CO. This is close enough to get IDSL and you may even qualify for a low speed SDSL circuit. I think Covad has your CO lit, and there should be a number of local ISPs ready to serve you. Keep in mind IDSL is 144K that is always on and flat-billed, so it's a nice step up from ISDN. Also, do you need more than 144K? We have a number of customers with 10-12 person offices with 192K SDSL, and they are hosting mail servers and small web servers on these lines while using it for access... It sounds like you need to find a quality, economical ISP near you. Steer clear of Bell Atlantic, they haven't really learned the internet yet. Even if you do end up going frame relay, look for an isp that will make a deal that includes: -telco charges -bandwidth charges -hosting for X number of sites -dns hosting Someone should be able to provide this for less than $600/mo. As for your mail server/firewall, as someone else said, look for a local FBSD guru who'll set it up for a one-time charge... good luck, Charles --- Charles Sprickman spork@super-g.com --- "...there's no idea that's so good you can't ruin it with a few well-placed idiots." On Tue, 2 May 2000, Jan Knepper wrote: > I live in Southern New Jersey (Cape May County). I though there are ways to look that > up from the zipcode, but I guess (since I do not know where to find that) other don't > know either. > > IDSL 144k up/down isn't going to do much if I already have 128k up/down right? Or is > 144K just for one B-channel? > I checked, but (I)DSL is not available in this area yet. Well not as "local call"... > ISDN however is... No cable modem either... Yeah, it's really in the middle of > nowhere. That's also why I asked ba-dsg.com what is really included for that $887.25 a > month... > > > > -- > =============================================================== > Jan Knepper > Smartsoft, LLC > 88 Petersburg Road > Petersburg, NJ 08270 > U.S.A. > > Phone: 609-628-4260 > FAX : 609-628-1267 > > http://www.smartsoft.cc/ > --------------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.pianoprincess.com/ > http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess > http://www.riffage.com/Bands/0,2939,2859,00.html > http://pianoprincess.iuma.com/ > http://www.changemusic.com/piano_princess > =============================================================== > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 23:11:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from super-g.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB0537B9B6 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 23:11:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: by super-g.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 764DBB416; Fri, 5 May 2000 02:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5CF00B401; Fri, 5 May 2000 02:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 02:11:11 -0400 (EDT) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: "Gary D. Margiotta" Cc: Matt Heckaman , FreeBSD-ISP Subject: Re: freebsd hosting. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 2 May 2000, Gary D. Margiotta wrote: [...] > DSL is still in its infancy, and if you need uptime, you still won't get > it reliably yet. Too many bugs to still work out. Heh. He's in Bell Atlantic territory. We're seeing better reliability on our SDSL lines than our point-to-point T's. The reliability thing is FUD from RBOCs worried about lost T1 revenue. Charles > Just my $.02, I'll shut up now... ;) > > -Gary > > On Tue, 2 May 2000, Matt Heckaman wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > I'm sorry, I deleted the original message before thinking, but revived a > > bit from scrollback: > > > > > worried about it e-mail to be separated for the different domains. I know > > > the same user names are used on the different domains. > > > > I do this nicely for > 30 domains with qmail, as for as I'm concerned it's > > the only way to do email virtual hosting =) > > > > Matt Heckaman > > matt@arpa.mail.net > > http://www.lucida.qc.ca > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) > > Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp > > > > iD8DBQE5D17LdMMtMcA1U5ARAsFeAKC9+0/DpeKWknrQjzmnCNiLt3Mh2wCguIPR > > 6wHx3QePQhOEORrViKEJNRQ= > > =qZEX > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 23:34:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web1.allunix.com (17.93.rsvl.dsl.quiknet.com [207.231.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928C537B545 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 23:34:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@allunix.com) Received: from DELL (dell.allunix.com [192.168.3.7]) by web1.allunix.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA02449 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 23:40:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@allunix.com) Message-ID: <200005042347520670.275C545D@web1.allunix.com> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.10.03.02 (3) Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 23:47:52 -0700 From: "David W. DeTinne" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: webserver software Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====_95750927226500=_" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=====_95750927226500=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Has anyone tried to download the 128bit version of Roxen Webserver 2.0 from the US? I have tried five different locations in the US. I know that the reverse lookup on my ip's are resolving. Has anyone put the webserver in to production? Thank You, David DeTinne http://download.roxen.com --=====_95750927226500=_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Has anyone tried to download the 128bit version of Roxen Webserver 2.0 from the US?
 
I have tried five different locations in the US.  I know that the reverse lookup on my ip's are resolving.
 
Has anyone put the webserver in to production?
 
Thank You,
 
David DeTinne
 
--=====_95750927226500=_-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 4 23:42:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hydrant.intranova.net (msb-ts-slip04.UMDNJ.EDU [130.219.28.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 599BA37B99F for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 23:42:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oogali@intranova.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hydrant.intranova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF01BE10AD; Fri, 5 May 2000 02:42:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 02:42:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Omachonu Ogali To: spork Cc: Jan Knepper , thomas@hentschel.net, FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Startup FreeBSD ISP host. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I can be the local FreeBSD guru (heh), but Bell Atlantic's rates are steep, watch out. ISDN installation in my area is $600-700 and unlimited ISDN is $150/month, then you top on your ISP's cost for the bandwidth used (typically $150-200 for 1 B-channel and $300-500 for 2 B-channels, provided this is dedicated ISDN). The DSL capability in Bell Atlantic territory requires you to be within 2.5 miles (Approximately 15,000 feet) of your central office. I'm sorry to say, but that's the about the correct price range for an ISDN line in Bell Atlantic's New Jersey territory, plus you're choosing Bell Atlantic which eliminates the option of price negotiation. In case you're wondering, I'm in northern New Jersey and those were the prices quoted to me different Bell Atlantic representatives and BellAtlantic.Net representatives. On Fri, 5 May 2000, spork wrote: > Take a quick peek at dslreports.com... They can qualify you through a > number of dsl providers. Covad is reporting your address as "not found", > which sounds like an error. If you don't get a response on dslreports, > try putting in a neighboring address to see what you get. You appear to > be about 20.000 feet out from your CO. This is close enough to get IDSL > and you may even qualify for a low speed SDSL circuit. > > I think Covad has your CO lit, and there should be a number of local ISPs > ready to serve you. Keep in mind IDSL is 144K that is always on and > flat-billed, so it's a nice step up from ISDN. Also, do you need more > than 144K? We have a number of customers with 10-12 person offices with > 192K SDSL, and they are hosting mail servers and small web servers on > these lines while using it for access... > > It sounds like you need to find a quality, economical ISP near you. Steer > clear of Bell Atlantic, they haven't really learned the internet yet. > Even if you do end up going frame relay, look for an isp that will make a > deal that includes: > > -telco charges > -bandwidth charges > -hosting for X number of sites > -dns hosting > > Someone should be able to provide this for less than $600/mo. > > As for your mail server/firewall, as someone else said, look for a local > FBSD guru who'll set it up for a one-time charge... > > good luck, > > Charles > > --- > Charles Sprickman > spork@super-g.com > --- > "...there's no idea that's so good you can't > ruin it with a few well-placed idiots." > > On Tue, 2 May 2000, Jan Knepper wrote: > > > I live in Southern New Jersey (Cape May County). I though there are ways to look that > > up from the zipcode, but I guess (since I do not know where to find that) other don't > > know either. > > > > IDSL 144k up/down isn't going to do much if I already have 128k up/down right? Or is > > 144K just for one B-channel? > > I checked, but (I)DSL is not available in this area yet. Well not as "local call"... > > ISDN however is... No cable modem either... Yeah, it's really in the middle of > > nowhere. That's also why I asked ba-dsg.com what is really included for that $887.25 a > > month... > > > > > > > > -- > > =============================================================== > > Jan Knepper > > Smartsoft, LLC > > 88 Petersburg Road > > Petersburg, NJ 08270 > > U.S.A. > > > > Phone: 609-628-4260 > > FAX : 609-628-1267 > > > > http://www.smartsoft.cc/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > http://www.pianoprincess.com/ > > http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess > > http://www.riffage.com/Bands/0,2939,2859,00.html > > http://pianoprincess.iuma.com/ > > http://www.changemusic.com/piano_princess > > =============================================================== > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Omachonu Ogali oogali@intranova.net | | Intranova Networking Group http://tribune.intranova.net | | PGP Key ID: 0xBFE60839 | | PGP Fingerprint: C8 51 14 FD 2A 87 53 D1 E3 AA 12 12 01 93 BD 34 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 0:20:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3304D37B67C for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 00:20:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from icon@nextfrontier.net) Received: from PPP-155-44.va.sprint-hsd.net (PPP-155-44.va.sprint-hsd.net [208.33.155.44]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA21121 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 00:20:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 03:11:50 -0400 From: icon X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.39) Educational Reply-To: icon X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <10133.000505@nextfrontier.net> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: unsubscribe Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unsubscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 0:32:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gate.webclub.ru (gate.web2000.ru [195.58.61.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E805637B8CA for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 00:32:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scriber@web2000.ru) Received: from novikov.web2000.ru ([195.58.61.36]) by gate.webclub.ru with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12ncbV-000N6F-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 May 2000 11:32:53 +0400 From: Andrey Novikov Organization: Web2000 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Simple traffic accounting Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 11:28:20 +0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain References: <00050417341207.05494@novikov.web2000.ru> <39115679.92B23232@timnordeste.com.br> <39123FF4.262E330D@gorean.org> In-Reply-To: <39123FF4.262E330D@gorean.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00050511302001.07893@novikov.web2000.ru> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Renato Mariz de Moraes wrote: > > > > Take a look at > > > > http://ee-staff.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html > > > > This is the site of Multi Router Traffic Grapher (MRTG). It > > is free! > > Better yet, use the port. It will handle the dependency on gd for you. > Wish I had that for solaris.... It makes graph but I need just numbers... ------------------------------------------------------------ Program source is just a special case of a patch Andrey Novikov NAG-RIPN [http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=447099] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 0:33:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.interact.se (smtp1.interact.se [193.15.98.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37AE837B9FD for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 00:33:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from je@interact.se) Received: from wolfie.interact.se (je@wolfie.interact.se [193.15.98.202]) by smtp1.interact.se (InterACT Mailer) with ESMTP id JAA22345; Fri, 5 May 2000 09:34:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 09:32:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Jonas Eriksson X-Sender: je@localhost To: "David W. DeTinne" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: webserver software In-Reply-To: <200005042347520670.275C545D@web1.allunix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We have been using Roxen Challanger for some years without any problems. It's very fast and easy to use. -- Jonas Eriksson On Thu, 4 May 2000, David W. DeTinne wrote: >Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 23:47:52 -0700 >From: David W. DeTinne >To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: webserver software > >Has anyone tried to download the 128bit version of Roxen Webserver 2.0 from >the US? > >I have tried five different locations in the US. I know that the reverse >lookup on my ip's are resolving. > >Has anyone put the webserver in to production? > >Thank You, > >David DeTinne > >http://download.roxen.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 4:42:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.timnordeste.com.br (mail.timnordeste.com.br [200.249.140.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C68A37B72C for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 04:42:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rmariz@timnordeste.com.br) Received: from timnordeste.com.br ([10.80.72.249]) by mail.timnordeste.com.br (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.3 (Intl)) with ESMTP id 2000050508382848:2507 ; Fri, 5 May 2000 08:38:28 -0300 Message-ID: <391289D8.9AE6F557@timnordeste.com.br> Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 08:44:08 +0000 From: Renato Mariz de Moraes X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrey Novikov Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Simple traffic accounting References: <00050417341207.05494@novikov.web2000.ru> <39115679.92B23232@timnordeste.com.br> <39123FF4.262E330D@gorean.org> <00050511302001.07893@novikov.web2000.ru> X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on intrape01/Timnordeste(Release 5.0.3 (Intl)|21 March 2000) at 05/05/2000 08:38:29 AM, Serialize by Router on intrape01/Timnordeste(Release 5.0.3 (Intl)|21 March 2000) at 05/05/2000 08:38:41 AM, Serialize complete at 05/05/2000 08:38:41 AM Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You can use the MRTG log files instead. There are just numbers! Renato. Andrey Novikov wrote: > > > Renato Mariz de Moraes wrote: > > > > > > Take a look at > > > > > > http://ee-staff.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html > > > > > > This is the site of Multi Router Traffic Grapher (MRTG). It > > > is free! > > > > Better yet, use the port. It will handle the dependency on gd for you. > > Wish I had that for solaris.... > > It makes graph but I need just numbers... > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Program source is just a special case of a patch > > Andrey Novikov NAG-RIPN > [http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=447099] > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- "To reboot type win" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 5:42: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.bna.bellsouth.net (mail1.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9061D37B799 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 05:42:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from discover.siteplus.net (host-216-78-82-226.cha.bellsouth.net [216.78.82.226]) by mail1.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id IAA28024 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 08:42:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 08:42:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Dead Seagate again Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I know this is not an isp question but I posted this to isp by mistake the other day and got the only response so far. I know you guys are always helpful and have seen just about every configuration problem known to man so here goes. I have had this dangerously dedicated Seagate drive mounted as back up on this particular machine for about a year now. It is running on 3.4-stable cvsuped for the most recent build about two weeks ago. This drive has always been mounted as /dev/da1s1e which was /stand/sysinstalls choice when building from the original 3.2-stable snapshot. Suddenly after a power glitch on Wednesday the machine rebooted into single user mode refusing to mount this drive. After starting and stoping the drive with camcontroll a few times, remaking all the related devices and doing fsck /dev/da1 I can now mount as /dev/da1 but when I try to mount at /dev/da1s1e I get a not configured error. I just did an unscheduled backup to this drive without a hitch so, I know it is working. What am I missing here. Thanks for your patience, Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 6:21:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from richard2.pil.net (richard2.pil.net [207.8.164.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D984B37B8A2 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 06:21:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from up@3.am) Received: (qmail 66184 invoked by uid 1825); 5 May 2000 13:21:18 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 May 2000 13:21:18 -0000 Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 09:21:18 -0400 (EDT) From: X-Sender: up@richard2.pil.net To: Doug Barton Cc: FreeBSD ISP List Subject: gd dependancies WAS: Simple traffic accounting In-Reply-To: <39123FF4.262E330D@gorean.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 4 May 2000, Doug Barton wrote: > > This is the site of Multi Router Traffic Grapher (MRTG). It > > is free! > > Better yet, use the port. It will handle the dependency on gd for you. > Wish I had that for solaris.... This brings me to a problem I had trying to use the port for webalizer, which is also dependant on gd. In 3.4-RELEASE, attempting to install that port results in a veritable avalanch of dependancies, starting with gd, which then wants to install a 400MB X server (!), among other things. Is this neccessary? I'd really rather not have X on a web server...in any case, it eventually won't install it anyway, because gd is looking for "xmkmf": su-2.03# make NO_CHECKSUM=yes install ===> Extracting for webalizer-1.30.4 ===> webalizer-1.30.4 depends on shared library: gd.0 - not found ===> Verifying install for gd.0 in /usr/ports/graphics/gd ===> Extracting for gd-1.7.3 ===> gd-1.7.3 depends on shared library: png.3 - found ===> gd-1.7.3 depends on shared library: ttf.4 - found ===> gd-1.7.3 depends on shared library: Xpm.4 - not found ===> Verifying install for Xpm.4 in /usr/ports/graphics/xpm ===> Configuring for xpm-3.4k xmkmf: not found *** Error code 127 Stop. the file actually does exist in other ports collections: su-2.03# locate xmkmf /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/FWF/files/xmkmf so I copy that to something in my path, and I get this: su-2.03# make NO_CHECKSUM=yes install ===> Extracting for webalizer-1.30.4 ===> webalizer-1.30.4 depends on shared library: gd.0 - not found ===> Verifying install for gd.0 in /usr/ports/graphics/gd ===> Extracting for gd-1.7.3 ===> gd-1.7.3 depends on shared library: png.3 - found ===> gd-1.7.3 depends on shared library: ttf.4 - found ===> gd-1.7.3 depends on shared library: Xpm.4 - not found ===> Verifying install for Xpm.4 in /usr/ports/graphics/xpm ===> Configuring for xpm-3.4k imake: not found make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. You know the ports collection *usually* makes life easier... :-/ James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 7:25:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0EAB637B71A for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 07:25:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 2393 invoked by uid 1000); 5 May 2000 14:25:18 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 May 2000 14:25:18 -0000 Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 10:25:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: spork Cc: "Gary D. Margiotta" , FreeBSD-ISP Subject: Re: freebsd hosting. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 5 May 2000, spork wrote: [...] : Heh. He's in Bell Atlantic territory. We're seeing better reliability on : our SDSL lines than our point-to-point T's. The reliability thing is FUD : from RBOCs worried about lost T1 revenue. Perhaps, I had 2.5mbit DSL here in Montreal, and it was *a lot* less reliable than the T1 we're currently on, I'm just speaking from my personal experiences, perhaps it's different in the US. : Charles Matt Heckaman matt@arpa.mail.net http://www.lucida.qc.ca -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5EtnOdMMtMcA1U5ARAjQZAKCFTMUnfi7Kwknkfg8yRjaA/SlbkgCeL0F8 dyzCS/Yw0v2PYtlW8Hxo774= =AcL6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 7:34:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from durango.picus.com (durango.picus.com [209.100.20.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C975937B807 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 07:34:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from troy@picus.com) Received: from arcadia [209.100.20.198] by durango.picus.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id AB945AA0022; Fri, 05 May 2000 10:32:52 -0400 From: "Troy Settle" To: Cc: "FreeBSD ISP List" Subject: RE: gd dependancies WAS: Simple traffic accounting Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 10:33:57 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org James, A lot of people have been bitching about this for a long time. Unfortunately, nobody has offered up a solution yet. (dunno what's so hard about setting these ports up so that they build with X if availiable, build without X if not availiable) For most items depending on GD, I've found that installing the gd package is the easiest workaround for this. G'luck, -Troy ** -----Original Message----- ** From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG ** [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of up@3.am ** Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 9:21 AM ** To: Doug Barton ** Cc: FreeBSD ISP List ** Subject: gd dependancies WAS: Simple traffic accounting ** ** ** On Thu, 4 May 2000, Doug Barton wrote: ** ** > > This is the site of Multi Router Traffic Grapher (MRTG). It ** > > is free! ** > ** > Better yet, use the port. It will handle the dependency on ** gd for you. ** > Wish I had that for solaris.... ** ** This brings me to a problem I had trying to use the port for webalizer, ** which is also dependant on gd. In 3.4-RELEASE, attempting to ** install that ** port results in a veritable avalanch of dependancies, starting with gd, ** which then wants to install a 400MB X server (!), among other things. ** ** Is this neccessary? I'd really rather not have X on a web ** server...in any ** case, it eventually won't install it anyway, because gd is looking for ** "xmkmf": ** ** su-2.03# make NO_CHECKSUM=yes install ** ===> Extracting for webalizer-1.30.4 ** ===> webalizer-1.30.4 depends on shared library: gd.0 - not found ** ===> Verifying install for gd.0 in /usr/ports/graphics/gd ** ===> Extracting for gd-1.7.3 ** ===> gd-1.7.3 depends on shared library: png.3 - found ** ===> gd-1.7.3 depends on shared library: ttf.4 - found ** ===> gd-1.7.3 depends on shared library: Xpm.4 - not found ** ===> Verifying install for Xpm.4 in /usr/ports/graphics/xpm ** ===> Configuring for xpm-3.4k ** xmkmf: not found ** *** Error code 127 ** ** Stop. ** ** the file actually does exist in other ports collections: ** ** su-2.03# locate xmkmf ** ** /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/FWF/files/xmkmf ** ** so I copy that to something in my path, and I get this: ** ** su-2.03# make NO_CHECKSUM=yes install ** ===> Extracting for webalizer-1.30.4 ** ===> webalizer-1.30.4 depends on shared library: gd.0 - not found ** ===> Verifying install for gd.0 in /usr/ports/graphics/gd ** ===> Extracting for gd-1.7.3 ** ===> gd-1.7.3 depends on shared library: png.3 - found ** ===> gd-1.7.3 depends on shared library: ttf.4 - found ** ===> gd-1.7.3 depends on shared library: Xpm.4 - not found ** ===> Verifying install for Xpm.4 in /usr/ports/graphics/xpm ** ===> Configuring for xpm-3.4k ** imake: not found ** make: don't know how to make Makefiles. Stop ** *** Error code 2 ** ** Stop. ** *** Error code 1 ** ** Stop. ** ** You know the ports collection *usually* makes life easier... :-/ ** ** James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor ** up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 7:37:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D34937BB76 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 07:37:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 2424 invoked by uid 1000); 5 May 2000 14:37:05 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 May 2000 14:37:05 -0000 Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 10:37:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: up@3.am Cc: Doug Barton , FreeBSD ISP List Subject: Re: gd dependancies WAS: Simple traffic accounting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 5 May 2000 up@3.am wrote: [...] : Is this neccessary? I'd really rather not have X on a webserver...in any : case, it eventually won't install it anyway, because gd is looking for : "xmkmf": [...] I had this problem, with the dependencies that is. I found that I had /usr/X11R6 (albeit empty) which was making something think I had X thus was compiling it with X support when there was none. I also found that removing that directory made it work as expected. So you might want to try that out, worked for me with gd/mrtg, plus I just tried compiling webalizer and that went fine as well. Good luck. Matt Heckaman matt@arpa.mail.net http://www.lucida.qc.ca -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5EtyQdMMtMcA1U5ARAjpMAJwKqyqzn+Wl7Ml2bxQYkz8Hrt3LhACgq+FV jP+mn7vhnl0+u+nTEBzkMdA= =parN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 7:46:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from thud.tbe.net (thud.tbe.net [209.123.109.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C083537B9E8 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 07:46:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gary@tbe.net) Received: by thud.tbe.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 910D71C948E; Fri, 5 May 2000 10:42:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thud.tbe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89EA4DCF4D; Fri, 5 May 2000 10:42:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 10:42:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gary D. Margiotta" To: spork Cc: Matt Heckaman , FreeBSD-ISP Subject: Re: freebsd hosting. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dunno 'bout that... I was recently working for the provider currently hosting dslreports.com... and we have been dealing with Covad for way too long... The incompetency at some of these companies, along with the in-fighting with Bell over installations and what not is unbelieveable. I ordered DSL for my fiancee back in October, 99, and it finally got installed on New Year's Eve... however, I am still unable to pass traffic over it, even now in May, 2000... I've had Covad out to the house several times already, and It Just Doesn't Work (and she's only 1/2 mile from the CO) At least here in Northern NJ/NYC area, the Covad service is horrid... and Flashcom isn't doing well either... Friend of mine ordered DSL from Flashcom, and didn't even get a confirmation call back in almost 7 weeks. He called up, cancelled, and then called Bell Atl. and had his DSL up in 2 weeks. Granted, he has ADSL, and it's only costing him $40, but. And, at least where I am, I am roughly 18,250 feet away from my CO, and that means I'm 250 feet too far, even for IDSL... As far as Covad is concerned, that is too far for service. I am able to get ISDN, so the correlation to ISDN and IDSL being able to get both is not entiirely true (at least in my case). YMMV. I think the providers out West, i.e. in PacBell territory and even US Worst from what I've heard from people in our other offices, are much better at giving good DSL service, as they were the ones who really developed it and deployed it first, so they've had the time to work some of the bugs out. In correlation, I believe T1's are horridly expensive out West also, so DSL, even if there is a slight downtime, is much more cost-effective than a PTP or Frame circuit (this is my own guess, not based on any hard evidence). Honestly, we sell out our rack space, and around here, the most common thing that we recommend to our customers is the following: Put whatever servers you need critical uptime on in the rack, that way they get guaranteed speed and uptime, and if you want good speed at home, get either ISDN or DSL if available. The cost works out to about $400/month for both the rack and the DSL, and you get the best of both worlds... have your development servers in house on the DSL so you can test, and put your production environment on a well-connected backbone co-located at a local provider. DSL looks like the next wave of dedicated service, but at least here in the Tri-State area, they have a lot of work to do before it can even come close to comparing with dedicated Frame and PTP circuite... Just another $.02... ;) -Gary On Fri, 5 May 2000, spork wrote: > > On Tue, 2 May 2000, Gary D. Margiotta wrote: > > [...] > > DSL is still in its infancy, and if you need uptime, you still won't get > > it reliably yet. Too many bugs to still work out. > > Heh. He's in Bell Atlantic territory. We're seeing better reliability on > our SDSL lines than our point-to-point T's. The reliability thing is FUD > from RBOCs worried about lost T1 revenue. > > Charles > > > Just my $.02, I'll shut up now... ;) > > > > -Gary > > > > On Tue, 2 May 2000, Matt Heckaman wrote: > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > I'm sorry, I deleted the original message before thinking, but revived a > > > bit from scrollback: > > > > > > > worried about it e-mail to be separated for the different domains. I know > > > > the same user names are used on the different domains. > > > > > > I do this nicely for > 30 domains with qmail, as for as I'm concerned it's > > > the only way to do email virtual hosting =) > > > > > > Matt Heckaman > > > matt@arpa.mail.net > > > http://www.lucida.qc.ca > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) > > > Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp > > > > > > iD8DBQE5D17LdMMtMcA1U5ARAsFeAKC9+0/DpeKWknrQjzmnCNiLt3Mh2wCguIPR > > > 6wHx3QePQhOEORrViKEJNRQ= > > > =qZEX > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 8: 1:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C7D237BF81 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 08:01:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 2485 invoked by uid 1000); 5 May 2000 15:01:37 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 May 2000 15:01:37 -0000 Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 11:01:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: "Gary D. Margiotta" Cc: spork , FreeBSD-ISP Subject: Re: freebsd hosting. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 5 May 2000, Gary D. Margiotta wrote: [...] : In correlation, I believe T1's are horridly expensive out West also, so : DSL, even if there is a slight downtime, is much more cost-effective than : a PTP or Frame circuit (this is my own guess, not based on any hard : evidence). [...] Depends on that business really. If you're in a line of work where any downtime upsets a large group of customers, downs their web pages, and so forth, it's far better to take the extra cost involved. I agree that if you want to provide an office with a high bandwidth solution, DSL is the way to go. I however do not trust it for production hosting on any application that requires 24/7 uptime. Matt Heckaman matt@arpa.mail.net http://www.lucida.qc.ca -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5EuJQdMMtMcA1U5ARAuCsAJ48ucgMUtUxN5fKrtV30Atuz3+VRwCgkr7O dPfJI7rV4i3bMUF+Njmw0SQ= =EmYr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 8:13: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hydrant.intranova.net (msb-ts-slip11.UMDNJ.EDU [130.219.28.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8171E37BAB7 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 08:12:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oogali@intranova.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hydrant.intranova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E431CE0C9A; Fri, 5 May 2000 11:12:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 11:12:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Omachonu Ogali To: "Gary D. Margiotta" Cc: spork , Matt Heckaman , FreeBSD-ISP Subject: Re: freebsd hosting. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 5 May 2000, Gary D. Margiotta wrote: > Dunno 'bout that... I was recently working for the provider currently > hosting dslreports.com... and we have been dealing with Covad for way too > long... The incompetency at some of these companies, along with the > in-fighting with Bell over installations and what not is unbelieveable. I > ordered DSL for my fiancee back in October, 99, and it finally got > installed on New Year's Eve... however, I am still unable to pass traffic > over it, even now in May, 2000... I've had Covad out to the house several > times already, and It Just Doesn't Work (and she's only 1/2 mile from the > CO) Ouch. > At least here in Northern NJ/NYC area, the Covad service is horrid... and > Flashcom isn't doing well either... Friend of mine ordered DSL from > Flashcom, and didn't even get a confirmation call back in almost 7 > weeks. He called up, cancelled, and then called Bell Atl. and had his > DSL up in 2 weeks. Granted, he has ADSL, and it's only costing him $40, > but. That's Flashcom's primary problem in BellAtlantic territory, same thing with one of my friends, he ordered Flashcom service in December, didn't get any confirmation until April. (They sent him his DSL modem, he hooked it up and called off the Flashcom technician). One Flashcom technician I talked to said that BellAtlantic is slowing them down as they take long to tag/markoff the line pairs. Doesn't it show that something's wrong when any DSL provider in this area takes 3-6 months for installation and BellAtlantic doesn't. Then again, BellAtlantic's service is very unreliable from what I've seen, and they're currently on the IconNET backbone which is going to be decommissioned soon, so expect more network problems. > And, at least where I am, I am roughly 18,250 feet away from my CO, and > that means I'm 250 feet too far, even for IDSL... As far as Covad is > concerned, that is too far for service. I am able to get ISDN, so the > correlation to ISDN and IDSL being able to get both is not entiirely true > (at least in my case). YMMV. > > I think the providers out West, i.e. in PacBell territory and even US > Worst from what I've heard from people in our other offices, are much > better at giving good DSL service, as they were the ones who really > developed it and deployed it first, so they've had the time to work some > of the bugs out. > > In correlation, I believe T1's are horridly expensive out West also, so > DSL, even if there is a slight downtime, is much more cost-effective than > a PTP or Frame circuit (this is my own guess, not based on any hard > evidence). > > Honestly, we sell out our rack space, and around here, the most common > thing that we recommend to our customers is the following: Put whatever > servers you need critical uptime on in the rack, that way they get > guaranteed speed and uptime, and if you want good speed at home, get > either ISDN or DSL if available. The cost works out to about $400/month > for both the rack and the DSL, and you get the best of both worlds... have > your development servers in house on the DSL so you can test, and put your > production environment on a well-connected backbone co-located at a local > provider. > > DSL looks like the next wave of dedicated service, but at least here in > the Tri-State area, they have a lot of work to do before it can even come > close to comparing with dedicated Frame and PTP circuite... It's a matter of planning. Most DSL multiplexers in the central offices have already been maxed out to full capacity due to a growing customer base, the capacity is causing lines to drop out of mid-air, (for instance, two weeks ago, Covad had three different unrelated outages, a Qwest DS3 failed, the firmware in a central office wouldn't load, and I forget the other). The maximum *stable* bandwidth I've seen out of a SDSL line is 768K, not the maximum 1.544Mbps. > Just another $.02... ;) > > -Gary > > On Fri, 5 May 2000, spork wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2 May 2000, Gary D. Margiotta wrote: > > > > [...] > > > DSL is still in its infancy, and if you need uptime, you still won't get > > > it reliably yet. Too many bugs to still work out. > > > > Heh. He's in Bell Atlantic territory. We're seeing better reliability on > > our SDSL lines than our point-to-point T's. The reliability thing is FUD > > from RBOCs worried about lost T1 revenue. > > > > Charles > > > > > Just my $.02, I'll shut up now... ;) > > > > > > -Gary > > > > > > On Tue, 2 May 2000, Matt Heckaman wrote: > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > > > I'm sorry, I deleted the original message before thinking, but revived a > > > > bit from scrollback: > > > > > > > > > worried about it e-mail to be separated for the different domains. I know > > > > > the same user names are used on the different domains. > > > > > > > > I do this nicely for > 30 domains with qmail, as for as I'm concerned it's > > > > the only way to do email virtual hosting =) > > > > > > > > Matt Heckaman > > > > matt@arpa.mail.net > > > > http://www.lucida.qc.ca > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) > > > > Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp > > > > > > > > iD8DBQE5D17LdMMtMcA1U5ARAsFeAKC9+0/DpeKWknrQjzmnCNiLt3Mh2wCguIPR > > > > 6wHx3QePQhOEORrViKEJNRQ= > > > > =qZEX > > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Omachonu Ogali oogali@intranova.net | | Intranova Networking Group http://tribune.intranova.net | | PGP Key ID: 0xBFE60839 | | PGP Fingerprint: C8 51 14 FD 2A 87 53 D1 E3 AA 12 12 01 93 BD 34 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 8:30:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from MushMouth.AaronJackson.com (cd-140-180.ra30.dc.capu.net [64.50.140.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0FE637BBCB for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 08:30:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jackson@msrce.howard.edu) Received: (from www@localhost) by MushMouth.AaronJackson.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13871; Fri, 5 May 2000 10:32:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 10:32:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200005051532.KAA13871@MushMouth.AaronJackson.com> From: Aaron Jackson To: "Gary D. Margiotta" Reply-To: Aaron Jackson Cc: spork , Matt Heckaman , FreeBSD-ISP References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.11 Subject: Re: freebsd hosting. Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I live in the Washington, DC area and I had Bell Atlantic ADSL service and I hated it. It was not stable and the pppoe implementation irritated the hell out of me, some of my apps weren't compatible with the MACpoet driver and development on a pppoe driver for OpenBSD (my firewall OS of choice) is a little behind. Bell Atlantic used to have static ips, which was nice, but they got rid of that a few months ago. I ordered DSL service from Covad (capu.net ISP) in March 2000, and by March 30, 2000 it was installed. During the three week I was waiting for the DSL to be installed, capu.net continuously updated me on my order status, to the point where it became annoying. There were a few installation problems, but my ISP credited an extra month to my account, so I was satisfied how things were handled. I wouldn't suggest anybody use Bell Atlantic ADSL unless they had to, while I have been satisfied by the service COVAD/capu.net have provided me. Quoting "Gary D. Margiotta" : > Dunno 'bout that... I was recently working for the provider currently > hosting dslreports.com... and we have been dealing with Covad for way too > long... The incompetency at some of these companies, along with the > in-fighting with Bell over installations and what not is unbelieveable. I > ordered DSL for my fiancee back in October, 99, and it finally got > installed on New Year's Eve... however, I am still unable to pass traffic > over it, even now in May, 2000... I've had Covad out to the house several > times already, and It Just Doesn't Work (and she's only 1/2 mile from the > CO) > > At least here in Northern NJ/NYC area, the Covad service is horrid... and > Flashcom isn't doing well either... Friend of mine ordered DSL from > Flashcom, and didn't even get a confirmation call back in almost 7 > weeks. He called up, cancelled, and then called Bell Atl. and had his > DSL up in 2 weeks. Granted, he has ADSL, and it's only costing him $40, > but. > > And, at least where I am, I am roughly 18,250 feet away from my CO, and > that means I'm 250 feet too far, even for IDSL... As far as Covad is > concerned, that is too far for service. I am able to get ISDN, so the > correlation to ISDN and IDSL being able to get both is not entiirely true > (at least in my case). YMMV. > > I think the providers out West, i.e. in PacBell territory and even US > Worst from what I've heard from people in our other offices, are much > better at giving good DSL service, as they were the ones who really > developed it and deployed it first, so they've had the time to work some > of the bugs out. > > In correlation, I believe T1's are horridly expensive out West also, so > DSL, even if there is a slight downtime, is much more cost-effective than > a PTP or Frame circuit (this is my own guess, not based on any hard > evidence). > > Honestly, we sell out our rack space, and around here, the most common > thing that we recommend to our customers is the following: Put whatever > servers you need critical uptime on in the rack, that way they get > guaranteed speed and uptime, and if you want good speed at home, get > either ISDN or DSL if available. The cost works out to about $400/month > for both the rack and the DSL, and you get the best of both worlds... have > your development servers in house on the DSL so you can test, and put your > production environment on a well-connected backbone co-located at a local > provider. > > DSL looks like the next wave of dedicated service, but at least here in > the Tri-State area, they have a lot of work to do before it can even come > close to comparing with dedicated Frame and PTP circuite... > > Just another $.02... ;) > > -Gary > > On Fri, 5 May 2000, spork wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2 May 2000, Gary D. Margiotta wrote: > > > > [...] > > > DSL is still in its infancy, and if you need uptime, you still won't > get > > > it reliably yet. Too many bugs to still work out. > > > > Heh. He's in Bell Atlantic territory. We're seeing better reliability > on > > our SDSL lines than our point-to-point T's. The reliability thing is FUD > > from RBOCs worried about lost T1 revenue. > > > > Charles > > > > > Just my $.02, I'll shut up now... ;) > > > > > > -Gary > > > > > > On Tue, 2 May 2000, Matt Heckaman wrote: > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > > > I'm sorry, I deleted the original message before thinking, but > revived a > > > > bit from scrollback: > > > > > > > > > worried about it e-mail to be separated for the different domains. > I know > > > > > the same user names are used on the different domains. > > > > > > > > I do this nicely for > 30 domains with qmail, as for as I'm concerned > it's > > > > the only way to do email virtual hosting =) > > > > > > > > Matt Heckaman > > > > matt@arpa.mail.net > > > > http://www.lucida.qc.ca > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) > > > > Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp > > > > > > > > iD8DBQE5D17LdMMtMcA1U5ARAsFeAKC9+0/DpeKWknrQjzmnCNiLt3Mh 2wCguIPR > > > > 6wHx3QePQhOEORrViKEJNRQ= > > > > =qZEX > > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > "You don't know what you don't know until you know that you don't know it." -- Me To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 8:31:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9BB537BB6F for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 08:31:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22516; Fri, 5 May 2000 09:30:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25030; Fri, 5 May 2000 09:30:57 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 09:30:57 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200005051530.JAA25030@nomad.yogotech.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Matt Heckaman Cc: "Gary D. Margiotta" , spork , FreeBSD-ISP Subject: Re: freebsd hosting. In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > : In correlation, I believe T1's are horridly expensive out West also, so > : DSL, even if there is a slight downtime, is much more cost-effective than > : a PTP or Frame circuit (this is my own guess, not based on any hard > : evidence). > > Depends on that business really. If you're in a line of work where any > downtime upsets a large group of customers, downs their web pages, and > so forth, it's far better to take the extra cost involved. I agree that > if you want to provide an office with a high bandwidth solution, DSL is > the way to go. I however do not trust it for production hosting on any > application that requires 24/7 uptime. Interestingly enough, I'm using DSL for 'home office' work, and I've got a script that measures reliability (pings, etc...) that has run for well over 4 months. In that time, I've had 15 seconds of down-time related to DSL, and 10 minutes of downtime related to my ISP re-configuring his Cisco 2-3 times which shutoff access in the middle of the night. I'd have to say I'm *very* pleased with DSL, howevever, it's a slower link than most 'commercial' companies would consider acceptable, 256/272K. But, it works great for my little operation. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 8:38:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from loki.intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240B537B88B for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 08:38:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@loki.intrepid.net) Received: (from mark@localhost) by loki.intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA17846 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 5 May 2000 11:38:16 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 11:38:15 -0400 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Slightly OT: FreeBSD Billing Packages Message-ID: <20000505113815.A17064@intrepid.net> References: <20000504121512.C24897@intrepid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000504121512.C24897@intrepid.net>; from mark@intrepid.net on Thu, May 04, 2000 at 12:15:12PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 12:15:12PM -0400, Mark Conway Wirt wrote: > I'm looking for a billing/accounting package that runs under FreeBSD. > I've taken a look at Freeside, and it seems to work OK, but it's > pretty ISP specific; I'm looking for something a little more general > purpose (more like Quickbooks or Peachtree). > Thanks to everyone who suggested I take a look at billmax. Haven't done so yet, but it looks like the place to start. (And it looks like the billmax people actively monitor this list ;-) It's good to see a company taking BDS seriously). --Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 8:41:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from defiant.quansoo.com (defiant.quansoo.com [63.66.225.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71E637BB22 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 08:41:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cgriffiths@quansoo.com) Received: from localhost (cgriffiths@localhost) by defiant.quansoo.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA02110 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 11:41:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cgriffiths@quansoo.com) X-Authentication-Warning: defiant.quansoo.com: cgriffiths owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 11:41:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher T. Griffiths" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Sendmail rules to eliminate .vbs files Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have seen some variations to stoping the email viruses by screening the Subject line for example in my sendmail.cf I have the following: HSubject: $>Check_Subject D{MPat}ILOVEYOU D{MMsg}This message may contain the ILOVEYOU virus. SCheck_Subject R${MPat} $* $#error $: 553 ${MMsg} RRe: ${MPat} $* $#error $: 553 ${MMsg} I am wondering if there is a way to screen for the .vbs files attached instead. Thus blocking emails with attached .vbs files in the same way we are blocking the subject line. I have done some sendmail hacking before but I am not sure if this would be possible via a ruleset. Any suggestions or comments? Chris --- Christopher T. Griffiths Engineering Department Quansoo Group Inc. cgriffiths@quansoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 9:26:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CFF6F37B787 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 09:26:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 2788 invoked by uid 1000); 5 May 2000 16:26:32 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 May 2000 16:26:32 -0000 Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 12:26:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Mark Conway Wirt Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Slightly OT: FreeBSD Billing Packages In-Reply-To: <20000505113815.A17064@intrepid.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 5 May 2000, Mark Conway Wirt wrote: [...] : Thanks to everyone who suggested I take a look at billmax. Haven't : done so yet, but it looks like the place to start. I looked at billmax before, it's VERY nice. The only reason I'm not using it is because it's far too complex for my operations. I deal strictly in web hosting and shells w/ DNS hosting. I really wish there was a "Lite" package or so forth for customers with less demand. : (And it looks like the billmax people actively monitor this list ;-) It's : good to see a company taking BDS seriously). Agreed! They should be commended for that. : --Mark Matt Heckaman matt@arpa.mail.net http://www.lucida.qc.ca -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5EvY4dMMtMcA1U5ARAh3vAJ9VBEE8oKZeh+JCsHxL/DOk/l8nOgCg3XiT PK13n2S5V6+xOzr6NR0D62Q= =lCtp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 11: 4:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ultra2.quiknet.com (ultra2.quiknet.com [207.183.249.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F88D37BC11 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 11:04:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from David@allunix.com) Received: (qmail 1557 invoked from network); 5 May 2000 18:03:49 -0000 Received: from 17.93.rsvl.dsl.quiknet.com (HELO tiffany) (207.231.93.17) by ultra2.quiknet.com with SMTP; 5 May 2000 18:03:49 -0000 From: David@allunix.com To: Matt Heckaman Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 11:13:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Slightly OT: FreeBSD Billing Packages Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3912ACCE.12326.134702D1@localhost> References: <20000505113815.A17064@intrepid.net> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The bad thing about Billmax is that you have to use their installed version of mysql. I installed it only after having tech support tell me to deinstall my mysql package. David DeTinne On 5 May 2000, at 12:26, Matt Heckaman wrote: > > [...] > : Thanks to everyone who suggested I take a look at billmax. Haven't > : done so yet, but it looks like the place to start. > > I looked at billmax before, it's VERY nice. The only reason I'm not > using it is because it's far too complex for my operations. I deal > strictly in web hosting and shells w/ DNS hosting. I really wish there > was a "Lite" package or so forth for customers with less demand. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 13: 0:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from super-g.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B9437BC24 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 13:00:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: by super-g.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 32262B418; Fri, 5 May 2000 16:00:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1ACC2B416; Fri, 5 May 2000 16:00:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 16:00:25 -0400 (EDT) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: "Gary D. Margiotta" Cc: Matt Heckaman , FreeBSD-ISP Subject: Re: freebsd hosting. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I won't argue about the holdups in installation, nor the infighting, nor the instability of lines on the bleeding edge of coverage... But once it's up, and especially with sdsl, we've not had any ongoing issues. YMMV, but this is NYC which is arguably the worst place for a CLEC to try to do business... The CWA here is very strong, and if someone doesn't want to do their job right, there's not much management can do about it. We've also run into downright strange things with BA North techs. Twice we've had them leave gear on site, and the customer reported finding: -in one, neosporin and condoms -in another vaseline and visine I don't even want to know how these items were used during the line repair. Anyhow, I'll second my suggestion of this gentleman getting all his services from one ISP. Even with frame he should be able to get a decent deal. We don't cover that area, but I know our sales folks always try to work something out if someone needs a bundle of services... Does NAC.net go that far south? Charles --- Charles Sprickman spork@super-g.com --- "...there's no idea that's so good you can't ruin it with a few well-placed idiots." On Fri, 5 May 2000, Gary D. Margiotta wrote: > Dunno 'bout that... I was recently working for the provider currently > hosting dslreports.com... and we have been dealing with Covad for way too > long... The incompetency at some of these companies, along with the > in-fighting with Bell over installations and what not is unbelieveable. I > ordered DSL for my fiancee back in October, 99, and it finally got > installed on New Year's Eve... however, I am still unable to pass traffic > over it, even now in May, 2000... I've had Covad out to the house several > times already, and It Just Doesn't Work (and she's only 1/2 mile from the > CO) > > At least here in Northern NJ/NYC area, the Covad service is horrid... and > Flashcom isn't doing well either... Friend of mine ordered DSL from > Flashcom, and didn't even get a confirmation call back in almost 7 > weeks. He called up, cancelled, and then called Bell Atl. and had his > DSL up in 2 weeks. Granted, he has ADSL, and it's only costing him $40, > but. > > And, at least where I am, I am roughly 18,250 feet away from my CO, and > that means I'm 250 feet too far, even for IDSL... As far as Covad is > concerned, that is too far for service. I am able to get ISDN, so the > correlation to ISDN and IDSL being able to get both is not entiirely true > (at least in my case). YMMV. > > I think the providers out West, i.e. in PacBell territory and even US > Worst from what I've heard from people in our other offices, are much > better at giving good DSL service, as they were the ones who really > developed it and deployed it first, so they've had the time to work some > of the bugs out. > > In correlation, I believe T1's are horridly expensive out West also, so > DSL, even if there is a slight downtime, is much more cost-effective than > a PTP or Frame circuit (this is my own guess, not based on any hard > evidence). > > Honestly, we sell out our rack space, and around here, the most common > thing that we recommend to our customers is the following: Put whatever > servers you need critical uptime on in the rack, that way they get > guaranteed speed and uptime, and if you want good speed at home, get > either ISDN or DSL if available. The cost works out to about $400/month > for both the rack and the DSL, and you get the best of both worlds... have > your development servers in house on the DSL so you can test, and put your > production environment on a well-connected backbone co-located at a local > provider. > > DSL looks like the next wave of dedicated service, but at least here in > the Tri-State area, they have a lot of work to do before it can even come > close to comparing with dedicated Frame and PTP circuite... > > Just another $.02... ;) > > -Gary > > On Fri, 5 May 2000, spork wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2 May 2000, Gary D. Margiotta wrote: > > > > [...] > > > DSL is still in its infancy, and if you need uptime, you still won't get > > > it reliably yet. Too many bugs to still work out. > > > > Heh. He's in Bell Atlantic territory. We're seeing better reliability on > > our SDSL lines than our point-to-point T's. The reliability thing is FUD > > from RBOCs worried about lost T1 revenue. > > > > Charles > > > > > Just my $.02, I'll shut up now... ;) > > > > > > -Gary > > > > > > On Tue, 2 May 2000, Matt Heckaman wrote: > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > > > I'm sorry, I deleted the original message before thinking, but revived a > > > > bit from scrollback: > > > > > > > > > worried about it e-mail to be separated for the different domains. I know > > > > > the same user names are used on the different domains. > > > > > > > > I do this nicely for > 30 domains with qmail, as for as I'm concerned it's > > > > the only way to do email virtual hosting =) > > > > > > > > Matt Heckaman > > > > matt@arpa.mail.net > > > > http://www.lucida.qc.ca > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) > > > > Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp > > > > > > > > iD8DBQE5D17LdMMtMcA1U5ARAsFeAKC9+0/DpeKWknrQjzmnCNiLt3Mh2wCguIPR > > > > 6wHx3QePQhOEORrViKEJNRQ= > > > > =qZEX > > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 13: 4:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from super-g.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC3037BBB2 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 13:04:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: by super-g.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 365CAB418; Fri, 5 May 2000 16:04:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 18ED9B416; Fri, 5 May 2000 16:04:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 16:04:31 -0400 (EDT) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: Matt Heckaman Cc: Mark Conway Wirt , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Slightly OT: FreeBSD Billing Packages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone on this list moved from Platypus to Billmax? How's Billmax at handling all your non-dial services? Good financial reports available? Thanks, Charles On Fri, 5 May 2000, Matt Heckaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Fri, 5 May 2000, Mark Conway Wirt wrote: > [...] > : Thanks to everyone who suggested I take a look at billmax. Haven't > : done so yet, but it looks like the place to start. > > I looked at billmax before, it's VERY nice. The only reason I'm not using > it is because it's far too complex for my operations. I deal strictly in > web hosting and shells w/ DNS hosting. I really wish there was a "Lite" > package or so forth for customers with less demand. > > : (And it looks like the billmax people actively monitor this list ;-) It's > : good to see a company taking BDS seriously). > > Agreed! They should be commended for that. > > : --Mark > > Matt Heckaman > matt@arpa.mail.net > http://www.lucida.qc.ca > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) > Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp > > iD8DBQE5EvY4dMMtMcA1U5ARAh3vAJ9VBEE8oKZeh+JCsHxL/DOk/l8nOgCg3XiT > PK13n2S5V6+xOzr6NR0D62Q= > =lCtp > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 14: 4:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.bna.bellsouth.net (mail2.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B1B37BC8F for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 14:04:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from discover.siteplus.net (host-209-215-9-142.cha.bellsouth.net [209.215.9.142]) by mail2.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id QAA06239; Fri, 5 May 2000 16:58:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 17:03:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: "Michael R. Wayne" Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dead Seagate again In-Reply-To: <20000505113225.B4013@staff.msen.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This drive has been dedicated since the initial installation about a year ago. I have rebooted several times. Now the only way I can get the machine to boot into multi user mode is to comment out the device entry for this drive. I then can "mount /dev/da1 /bak" with not problem but if I try "mount /dev/da1s1e /bak" I get device not configured. Also /stand/sysinstall shows da0 and da1 in 'disk label editor" and all the slice entries are correct for da0, but da1 shows no entries at all On Fri, 5 May 2000, Michael R. Wayne wrote: > Is it possible that you did not reboot after you partitioned the drive as > dedicated? > > There is a problem in FreeBSD software that labels the drives but no one in > core believes me. I've helped about a dozen people through this so I know > it's real. > > /\/\ \/\/ > > > On Fri, May 05, 2000 at 08:42:05AM -0400, Jim Weeks wrote: > > I know this is not an isp question but I posted this to isp by mistake the > > other day and got the only response so far. I know you guys are always > > helpful and have seen just about every configuration problem known to man > > so here goes. > > > > I have had this dangerously dedicated Seagate drive mounted as back up on > > this particular machine for about a year now. It is running on 3.4-stable > > cvsuped for the most recent build about two weeks ago. This drive has > > always been mounted as /dev/da1s1e which was /stand/sysinstalls choice > > when building from the original 3.2-stable snapshot. > > > > Suddenly after a power glitch on Wednesday the machine rebooted into > > single user mode refusing to mount this drive. After starting and stoping > > the drive with camcontroll a few times, remaking all the related > > devices and doing fsck /dev/da1 I can now mount as /dev/da1 but when I try > > to mount at /dev/da1s1e I get a not configured error. > > > > I just did an unscheduled backup to this drive without a hitch so, I know > > it is working. What am I missing here. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 14:25: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from outlier.axl.net (outlier.axl.net [216.66.11.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7FB9A37BC9E for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 14:24:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@axl.net) Received: (qmail 76550 invoked from network); 5 May 2000 21:24:55 -0000 Received: from ws-01.matthennigus.lightningdsl.net (HELO sinister) (216.66.30.66) by outlier.axl.net with SMTP; 5 May 2000 21:24:55 -0000 From: "Matthew B. Henniges" To: Subject: virus scanning. Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 17:28:27 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well after a horde of complaints these past few days, I think I ought to look into virus scanning at the mail server. Anyone know of a fast, accurate command line virus scanner for freebsd? (I'd rather not run linux emulation.) Thanks in advance Matthew B. Henniges CoPresident Axl.net Communications http://www.axl.net (203) 552-1714 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 16:39:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailer.seidata.com (mail.seidata.com [208.10.211.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6478637B907 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 16:39:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pboehmer@seidata.com) Received: from shell.seidata.com (shell.seidata.com [208.10.211.6] (may be forged)) by mailer.seidata.com (8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA53505; Fri, 5 May 2000 18:50:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 18:47:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Boehmer To: "Matthew B. Henniges" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: virus scanning. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We are currently looking into Sophos Anti Virus. As far as I know, they had an IDE for ILOVEYOU before any one else. The only catch is the pricing, it looks pretty rough...but can you put a price on protection? www.sophos.com Good Luck Paul Boehmer Systems Administrator SEI Data, Inc. www.seidata.com On Fri, 5 May 2000, Matthew B. Henniges wrote: > Well after a horde of complaints these past few days, I think I ought to > look into virus scanning at the mail server. > > Anyone know of a fast, accurate command line virus scanner for freebsd? (I'd > rather not run linux emulation.) > > Thanks in advance > > Matthew B. Henniges > CoPresident > Axl.net Communications > http://www.axl.net > (203) 552-1714 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 19: 9: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from stingray.ivision.co.uk (avengers.ivision.co.uk [212.25.224.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB66A37B57D for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 19:09:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from manar@ivision.co.uk) Received: from bh-cw31-089.pool.dircon.co.uk ([194.112.60.89] helo=pretender2) by stingray.ivision.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.04 #1) id 12nu1Y-00076X-00; Sat, 6 May 2000 03:08:56 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000506025449.00b17820@stingray.ivision.co.uk> X-Sender: manarpop@stingray.ivision.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 02:54:49 +0100 To: Paul Boehmer From: Manar Hussain Subject: Re: virus scanning. Cc: "Matthew B. Henniges" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 06:47 PM 5/5/00 -0400, Paul Boehmer wrote: >We are currently looking into Sophos Anti Virus. As far as I know, they >had an IDE for ILOVEYOU before any one else. The only catch is the >pricing, it looks pretty rough...but can you put a price on protection? > >www.sophos.com Dug out an old-ish internal for our own use with some useful refs: http://amavis.org/ is the most interesting IMO. also: http://www.exim.org/config.samples/C005 http://www.exim.org/FAQ.html#SEC182 There is also http://www.cyber.com/products/vfind/info/flyer/ M -- Manar Hussain, Director Email: manar@ivision.co.uk Mobile: (07971) 277821 Internet Vision Tel: 020 7589 4500 60 Albert Court Fax: 020 7589 4522 Prince Consort Road info@ivision.co.uk London. SW7 2BE http://www.ivision.co.uk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 19:18:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pcslink.com (pcslink.com [206.43.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4491737B70B for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 19:18:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@pcslink.com) Received: from pdkhome (cust147.dsl.pcslink.com [206.250.59.147]) by pcslink.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id TAA96354 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 19:18:11 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul@pcslink.com) From: "Paul D Kruse" To: Subject: MRTG / Cisco 3810 Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 19:18:11 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We have recently upgraded the IOS on our Cisco 3810 from 11.3 to 12.0. This router handles our DSL connections. The reason we upgraded the IOS was because we wanted to provide PPP access to our customers, in addition to the Bridged access we already had. Well in the process, MRTG, which runs on one of our Free BSD boxes, quit working for the subinterfaces on this router. The upgrade of the IOS converted the Serial2.32 interface to ATM0.32. Originally, we were monitoring / graphing down to the PVC level. I've used 'snmpwalk' to try to get the proper numbers to monitor the PVCs, but I'm not sure I would fully know how to use these numbers anyway. So far, Cisco's tech support has been no help at all. Hopefully one of you guys can provide some insight. PDK Paul D Kruse paul@pcslink.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 19:48:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from PacHell.TelcoSucks.org (pachell.telcosucks.org [207.90.181.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF70537BE03 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 19:48:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ulf@PacHell.TelcoSucks.org) Received: (from ulf@localhost) by PacHell.TelcoSucks.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA45250; Fri, 5 May 2000 19:47:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ulf) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 19:47:57 -0700 From: Ulf Zimmermann To: Paul D Kruse Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MRTG / Cisco 3810 Message-ID: <20000505194757.I20555@PacHell.TelcoSucks.org> Reply-To: ulf@Alameda.net References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from paul@pcslink.com on Sat, May 06, 2000 at 07:18:11PM -0700 Organization: Alameda Networks, Inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, May 06, 2000 at 07:18:11PM -0700, Paul D Kruse wrote: > We have recently upgraded the IOS on our Cisco 3810 from 11.3 to 12.0. This > router handles our DSL connections. The reason we upgraded the IOS was > because we wanted to provide PPP access to our customers, in addition to the > Bridged access we already had. Well in the process, MRTG, which runs on one > of our Free BSD boxes, quit working for the subinterfaces on this router. > The upgrade of the IOS converted the Serial2.32 interface to ATM0.32. > Originally, we were monitoring / graphing down to the PVC level. Each time you reboot a Cisco, there is the possibility that the index numbers for SNMP change. Example: Your Cisco has: Interface name Index Fastethernet0/0 0 Serial1/0 1 Serial1/0.1 2 Serial1/0.2 3 Serial1/0.3 4 Serial1/0.4 5 Serial2/0 6 Serial2/0.1 7 Serial2/0.2 8 Serial2/0.3 9 Serial2/0.4 10 You now run cfgmaker and configure your mrtg and everything is fine. Now you add Serial1/0.5 (another subinterface), it will probably become index 11. But what happens when you reboot now ? The IOS will number the interfaces again. Serial1/0.5 will become Index 6, Serial 2/0 becomes 7, Serial 2/0.1 becomes 8, etc. > > I've used 'snmpwalk' to try to get the proper numbers to monitor the PVCs, > but I'm not sure I would fully know how to use these numbers anyway. So > far, Cisco's tech support has been no help at all. Hopefully one of you > guys can provide some insight. > > PDK > Paul D Kruse > paul@pcslink.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Regards, Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 Alameda Networks, Inc. | http://www.Alameda.net | Fax#: 510-521-5073 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 19:58:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.acidpit.net (node-40243f72.powerinter.net [64.36.63.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111F637BDFD for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 19:58:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rch@qserve.net) Received: from NOSFERATU (tezrian.acdipit.net [64.36.63.116]) by trinity.acidpit.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e462tpt75346; Fri, 5 May 2000 21:55:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000505215808.01303488@acidpit.net> X-Sender: rch@acidpit.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 21:59:36 -0500 To: "Paul D Kruse" From: Robert Hough Subject: Re: MRTG / Cisco 3810 Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 07:18 PM 5/6/2000 -0700, you wrote: >Hopefully one of you guys can provide some insight. This may not be exactly what you're looking for, but might be a good start. Good luck. http://www.ee.ethz.ch/~slist/mrtg/msg00067.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 21:42:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sal1.yamalinfo.ru (sal1.yamalinfo.ru [195.133.157.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C7637B630 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 21:42:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vorob@yamalinfo.ru) Received: from t34.yamalinfo.ru (t34.yamalinfo.ru [195.133.157.7]) by sal1.yamalinfo.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA86328; Sat, 6 May 2000 10:42:04 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from vorob@yamalinfo.ru) Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 10:42:04 +0600 From: Yuri Vorobyev X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.42) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Reply-To: Yuri Vorobyev X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1548148426.20000506104204@yamalinfo.ru> To: "Matthew B. Henniges" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: virus scanning. In-reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello! MBH> Well after a horde of complaints these past few days, I think I ought to MBH> look into virus scanning at the mail server. MBH> Anyone know of a fast, accurate command line virus scanner for freebsd? (I'd MBH> rather not run linux emulation.) Take a look at http://www.decros.cz/~reho/check_virus/ This url about sendmail and AVP (http://www.kasperskylab.ru) integration. -- Yuri Vorobyev To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 21:47:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C86B37B69E; Fri, 5 May 2000 21:47:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA32874; Fri, 5 May 2000 22:47:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA59146; Fri, 5 May 2000 22:46:59 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200005060446.WAA59146@harmony.village.org> To: Brian Reichert Subject: Re: LinkSys NP100 vs the universe Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 May 2000 16:07:54 EDT." <20000504160754.A29902@numachi.com> References: <20000504160754.A29902@numachi.com> Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 22:46:59 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20000504160754.A29902@numachi.com> Brian Reichert writes: : The card _mostly_ works, in that only some kinds of hosts can it interact : with in certain ways. Is this the "I suspend and then things go to hell problem" or the "I have a IRQ conflict, but things mostly work" problem? : The laptop can ping the desktop. Both machine's arp tables (modulo : 'permanent'): Maybe this is the "I configured my network card at a the same IRQ as another card and things aren't working" problem. If so, configure a different IRQ. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 5 22:28:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from csw.csw.net (csw.csw.net [209.136.201.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0437E37BABC for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 22:28:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lambert@csw.csw.net) Received: (from lambert@localhost) by csw.csw.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA01037 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sat, 6 May 2000 00:28:31 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lambert) Message-ID: <20000506002831.B28791@csw.net> Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 00:28:31 -0500 From: Scott Lambert To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: SWIPing Reply-To: Scott Lambert Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is an ISP question but not necessarily a FreeBSD question. Sorry if that annoys anybody. Our ISP is now large enough that we need a /19 IP allocation. We are also going to be taking on a new customer (another ISP) who has outgrown their /20. So, with both our ISP and the new customer needing to re-number at approx- imately the same time, we are looking into getting our new allocation from ARIN. I've been reading ARIN's site today and trying to fully understand what they require for an initial IP address space request. I can't find our currently allocated space via whois. From what I understand of http://www.arin.net/regserv/initial-isp.html, I think we need to have our IP space attributed to us in order to smooth the application process. We have three non-contiguous address blocks at this time. The first is xxx.xxx.175.0/24 and xxx.xxx.179.0/22. The second is xxx.xxx.192.0/20. The third is yyy.yyy.112.0/21. The only reference that includes part of our address space is a record for xxx.xxx.0.0/16. Maybe I'm searching incorrectly. The queries I am running are in the form of: whois -h rr.arin.net xxx.xxx.175.0/24 whois -h rr.arin.net xxx.xxx.175.3 Do I need to submit our netblocks to the SWIP just so that I can remove the info in less than a month? Another interpretation of what I'm reading seems to be that I could just submit that info on the allocation justification form since I haven't currently assigned more than two class Cs to any of my customers. Is that interpretation off-base? Thanks for any pointers, -- Scott Lambert Systems and Security Administrator CSW Net, Inc. lambert@cswnet.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 6 0:47:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD2137B700 for ; Sat, 6 May 2000 00:47:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from forrestc@IMACH.COM) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA29791; Sat, 6 May 2000 00:46:42 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 00:46:42 -0600 (MDT) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: Scott Lambert Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SWIPing In-Reply-To: <20000506002831.B28791@csw.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This information might be dated.... It's been a while. On Sat, 6 May 2000, Scott Lambert wrote: > I can't find our currently allocated space via whois. From what I > understand of http://www.arin.net/regserv/initial-isp.html, I think we need > to have our IP space attributed to us in order to smooth the application > process. We have three non-contiguous address blocks at this time. Not necessarily. Arin Says you need to "Demonstrate efficient utilization of previous address space allocations by providing reassignment information via SWIP, RWHOIS, or the table format shown earlier". Here's what I would do: Gather all of the allocation information. Format it in that little table and fill the appropriate forms. Send it in. I'm not sure whether I would just point them toward a URL or not. Worst they do is say "we need this in x format". I suspect they will accept it in something other than SWIP/rwhois since your upstreams haven't been Swipping correctly. > Another interpretation of what I'm reading seems to be that I could just > submit that info on the allocation justification form since I haven't currently > assigned more than two class Cs to any of my customers. Is that interpretation > off-base? I'm not sure. When SWIP'ing you need to swip /29's and above. A 29 is 8 addresses. I would recommend you document all assigments of 8 or more addresses. Maybe the best thing you could do is to do all the documentation and evertyhting and then send them a note saying "here's what I've got, do I have to swip this or is the information ok". Everyone I have talked to at ARIN when I have been to NANOG have been really nice and I really think that they would be more than willing to accomodate you where possible, especially on the documentation on a initial allocation. - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) KD7EHZ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 6 6:24:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mimer.webgiro.com (mimer.webgiro.com [212.209.29.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C51137B5F9 for ; Sat, 6 May 2000 06:24:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abial@webgiro.com) Received: by mimer.webgiro.com (Postfix, from userid 66) id 251912DC07; Sat, 6 May 2000 15:28:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mx.webgiro.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C58147817; Sat, 6 May 2000 15:23:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.webgiro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08B610E17; Sat, 6 May 2000 15:23:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 15:23:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Andrzej Bialecki To: Ulf Zimmermann Cc: Paul D Kruse , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MRTG / Cisco 3810 In-Reply-To: <20000505194757.I20555@PacHell.TelcoSucks.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 5 May 2000, Ulf Zimmermann wrote: > On Sat, May 06, 2000 at 07:18:11PM -0700, Paul D Kruse wrote: > > We have recently upgraded the IOS on our Cisco 3810 from 11.3 to 12.0. This > > router handles our DSL connections. The reason we upgraded the IOS was > > because we wanted to provide PPP access to our customers, in addition to the > > Bridged access we already had. Well in the process, MRTG, which runs on one > > of our Free BSD boxes, quit working for the subinterfaces on this router. > > The upgrade of the IOS converted the Serial2.32 interface to ATM0.32. > > Originally, we were monitoring / graphing down to the PVC level. > > Each time you reboot a Cisco, there is the possibility that the index > numbers for SNMP change. Example: > You now run cfgmaker and configure your mrtg and everything is fine. > > Now you add Serial1/0.5 (another subinterface), it will probably become > index 11. But what happens when you reboot now ? The IOS will number > the interfaces again. Serial1/0.5 will become Index 6, Serial 2/0 becomes > 7, Serial 2/0.1 becomes 8, etc. You can patch mrtg to use interface descriptions instead (that is, if you set them before to some unique values). They are available as part of the enterprise MIB. Andrzej Bialecki // WebGiro AB, Sweden (http://www.webgiro.com) // ------------------------------------------------------------------- // ------ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve. http://www.freebsd.org -------- // --- Small & Embedded FreeBSD: http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ ---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 6 8: 2:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from inago.swcp.com (inago.swcp.com [198.59.115.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03E737B582 for ; Sat, 6 May 2000 08:02:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from deichert@wrench.com) Received: from localhost (deichert@localhost) by inago.swcp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA28535 for ; Sat, 6 May 2000 09:02:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: inago.swcp.com: deichert owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 09:02:46 -0600 (MDT) From: Diana Eichert X-Sender: deichert@inago.swcp.com To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MRTG / Cisco 3810 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Take a look at Cricket, with RRDTOOL as the backend. It will do an IfName or IfDescr walk to matchup interfaces/ports to the correct ifIndex if so configured. Besides RRDTOOL is the new improved replacement for the MRTG backend database. Search for cricket at www.sourceforge.net diana On Sat, 6 May 2000, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > On Fri, 5 May 2000, Ulf Zimmermann wrote: > > > On Sat, May 06, 2000 at 07:18:11PM -0700, Paul D Kruse wrote: > > > We have recently upgraded the IOS on our Cisco 3810 from 11.3 to 12.0. This > > > router handles our DSL connections. The reason we upgraded the IOS was > > > because we wanted to provide PPP access to our customers, in addition to the > > > Bridged access we already had. Well in the process, MRTG, which runs on one > > > of our Free BSD boxes, quit working for the subinterfaces on this router. > > > The upgrade of the IOS converted the Serial2.32 interface to ATM0.32. > > > Originally, we were monitoring / graphing down to the PVC level. > > > > Each time you reboot a Cisco, there is the possibility that the index > > numbers for SNMP change. Example: > > > You now run cfgmaker and configure your mrtg and everything is fine. > > > > Now you add Serial1/0.5 (another subinterface), it will probably become > > index 11. But what happens when you reboot now ? The IOS will number > > the interfaces again. Serial1/0.5 will become Index 6, Serial 2/0 becomes > > 7, Serial 2/0.1 becomes 8, etc. > > You can patch mrtg to use interface descriptions instead (that is, if you > set them before to some unique values). They are available as part of the > enterprise MIB. > > Andrzej Bialecki > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message