From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 23 8:53:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tlove3.toughlove.org (toughlove.org [204.251.21.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A28A37BAAC for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 08:53:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom.oneil@oneils.net) Received: from oneils.net (207-55-167-116.dhc.net [207.55.167.116]) by tlove3.toughlove.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19873 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 11:11:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <397B1513.782F4952@oneils.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 10:53:56 -0500 From: Tom ONeil Reply-To: tom.oneil@oneils.net Organization: DNRC/BOFH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD ISP Subject: vinum help Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings All; I'm looking for a tutorial / how-to on vinum, specifically on creating bootable root mirrors and the like. The man pages don't mention the root/boot disks and the handbook doesn't mention vinum at all. TIA Tom -- Tom ONeil abuse@oneils.net / tom.oneil@oneils.net Move along, move along, nothing to see here, definitely no evil mind control software here, move along, move along... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 23 8:56:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B11A137BC53 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 08:56:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesper@skriver.dk) Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3850E3E4A; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:56:47 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:56:47 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver To: Tom ONeil Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: vinum help Message-ID: <20000723175647.A61682@skriver.dk> References: <397B1513.782F4952@oneils.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <397B1513.782F4952@oneils.net>; from tom.oneil@oneils.net on Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 10:53:56AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 10:53:56AM -0500, Tom ONeil wrote: > I'm looking for a tutorial / how-to on vinum, specifically on > creating bootable root mirrors and the like. The man pages don't > mention the root/boot disks and the handbook doesn't mention vinum at > all. You cannot use a vinum drive for the root partition. But Greg has a excellent page about vinum here http://www.lemis.com/vinum.html /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) Private: Geek @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 24 10:15: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.i-p-d.nl (ns1.i-p-d.nl [208.239.240.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F3037BA72 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:14:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chem@i-p-d.nl) Received: from andy (vp222-165.worldonline.nl [195.241.222.165]) by ns1.i-p-d.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13257 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 19:04:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from chem@i-p-d.nl) Message-Id: <200007241704.TAA13257@ns1.i-p-d.nl> From: "chem@i-p-d.nl" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 19:15:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: limiting telnet-users Reply-To: chem@i-p-d.nl X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have been investigating a way to limit telnet-users to their own home-dir. Problem with chroot is that a lot of dirs would have to be copied to the home- dir, in order for them to work with telnet. We only give telnet-access to users that specifically ask for it, because ftp is to limited. I remember a post from about a year ago, of someone who managed it by setting the permissions of the home-dirs and the dir above at a specific way, i believe in combination with a specific umask. Can't find that posting in the archives, though. I would love to hear some solutions to this problem and/or some pointers. TIA chem To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 24 12: 7: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from marine.sonic.net (marine.sonic.net [208.201.224.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A72437B972 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:06:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kgc@sonic.net) Received: (qmail 28569 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2000 19:06:48 -0000 Received: from buzz.sonic.net (208.201.224.78) by marine.sonic.net with SMTP; 24 Jul 2000 19:06:48 -0000 Received: from sonic.net (wingerboy.sonic.net [208.201.224.75]) by buzz.sonic.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08395; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:10:26 -0700 X-envelope-info: Message-ID: <397C93C7.AE5B38C7@sonic.net> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:06:47 -0700 From: Kelsey Cummings Reply-To: kgc@sonic.net Organization: sonic.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Barnhart Cc: John Angelmo , FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: webmail? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org horde is pretty cool, but TWIG, imoho is far far superior. But, does require IMAP, php, MySQL. Sorry, I don't have a url. Joe Barnhart wrote: > > The one I like the best is this one: > > http://www.horde.org/imp/ > > It uses imap instead of pop3, and it's free :P > > http://webmail.fdt.net is my imp url. > > On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, John Angelmo wrote: > > > > > > > Hi > > > > I'm setting up a mailserver for myself and some friends. > > And now I want to put up a webmail"server" so what do you recomend that > > is free? and if there is someone goot that costs I can max spend 200$ > > > > > > /John :-) > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > /---------------------------- 352-372-5100 -------------------------------\ > | Joseph Barnhart | IRC | Gainesville, Tallahassee, | > | FDT Network Administrator | Front Page | Ocala, Tampa & St. Pete. | > | Florida Digital Turnpike | 56k Dialup | Pensacola, Jacksonville and | > | http://www.fdt.net | ISDN T1 | Miami. Megapop and Ipass | > | joseph.barnhart@fdt.net | Web Hosting | National access. | > | | Unix Shells | | > \---------------------------- 850-222-5200 -------------------------------/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Kelsey Cummings - kgc@sonic.net sonic.net System Administrator 300 B Street, Ste 101 707.522.1000 (Voice) Santa Rosa, CA 95404 707.547.2199 (Fax) http://www.sonic.net/ Fingerprint = 7F 59 43 1B 44 8A 0D 57 91 08 73 73 7A 48 90 C5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 24 12:12:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from marine.sonic.net (marine.sonic.net [208.201.224.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 68EB937BC29 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:12:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kgc@sonic.net) Received: (qmail 30148 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2000 19:12:18 -0000 Received: from ultra.sonic.net (208.201.224.22) by marine.sonic.net with SMTP; 24 Jul 2000 19:12:18 -0000 Received: from sonic.net (wingerboy.sonic.net [208.201.224.75]) by ultra.sonic.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26527; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:08:55 -0700 X-envelope-info: Message-ID: <397C9512.BC715851@sonic.net> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:12:18 -0700 From: Kelsey Cummings Reply-To: kgc@sonic.net Organization: sonic.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chem@i-p-d.nl Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: limiting telnet-users References: <200007241704.TAA13257@ns1.i-p-d.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I did this for an other ISP a while back. Myself and the other sysadmin hacked login to chroot the user if the UID was less than 1000 and constructed scripts which built the needed trees with hardlinks and made the /tmp, and other directories that need specific permissions under /home/user. I'm not sure I'd go through the trouble of doing this again. It was a cool project, and worth doing once, but you might be better off just making a very secure 'open' multiuser system, with very careful file permissions, kernel security set high, with immutable flags on all of the system files and binaries that should never change. I think there are some good FAQs on nailing down fBSD like this out there. "chem@i-p-d.nl" wrote: > > Hi, > > I have been investigating a way to limit telnet-users to their own home-dir. > Problem with chroot is that a lot of dirs would have to be copied to the home- > dir, in order for them to work with telnet. We only give telnet-access to users > that specifically ask for it, because ftp is to limited. I remember a post from > about a year ago, of someone who managed it by setting the permissions of the > home-dirs and the dir above at a specific way, i believe in combination with a > specific umask. Can't find that posting in the archives, though. > > I would love to hear some solutions to this problem and/or some pointers. > > TIA > chem > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Kelsey Cummings - kgc@sonic.net sonic.net System Administrator 300 B Street, Ste 101 707.522.1000 (Voice) Santa Rosa, CA 95404 707.547.2199 (Fax) http://www.sonic.net/ Fingerprint = 7F 59 43 1B 44 8A 0D 57 91 08 73 73 7A 48 90 C5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 24 12:15: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from server.comnix.com (ns1.comnix.com [195.196.30.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 21F0937BBEF for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:14:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@veidit.net) Received: (qmail 13935 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2000 19:14:16 -0000 Received: from t1o41p15.telia.com (HELO veidit.net) (195.67.252.15) by ns1.comnix.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 2000 19:14:16 -0000 Message-ID: <397C955A.D016A93@veidit.net> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 21:13:30 +0200 From: John Angelmo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: sv, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: webmail? References: <397C93C7.AE5B38C7@sonic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well I will prob try Worldpilot :-) http://www.worldpilot.com /John Kelsey Cummings wrote: > > horde is pretty cool, but TWIG, imoho is far far superior. But, does > require IMAP, php, MySQL. > > Sorry, I don't have a url. > > Joe Barnhart wrote: > > > > The one I like the best is this one: > > > > http://www.horde.org/imp/ > > > > It uses imap instead of pop3, and it's free :P > > > > http://webmail.fdt.net is my imp url. > > > > On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, John Angelmo wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > I'm setting up a mailserver for myself and some friends. > > > And now I want to put up a webmail"server" so what do you recomend that > > > is free? and if there is someone goot that costs I can max spend 200$ > > > > > > > > > /John :-) > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > /---------------------------- 352-372-5100 -------------------------------\ > > | Joseph Barnhart | IRC | Gainesville, Tallahassee, | > > | FDT Network Administrator | Front Page | Ocala, Tampa & St. Pete. | > > | Florida Digital Turnpike | 56k Dialup | Pensacola, Jacksonville and | > > | http://www.fdt.net | ISDN T1 | Miami. Megapop and Ipass | > > | joseph.barnhart@fdt.net | Web Hosting | National access. | > > | | Unix Shells | | > > \---------------------------- 850-222-5200 -------------------------------/ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > -- > Kelsey Cummings - kgc@sonic.net sonic.net > System Administrator 300 B Street, Ste 101 > 707.522.1000 (Voice) Santa Rosa, CA 95404 > 707.547.2199 (Fax) http://www.sonic.net/ > Fingerprint = 7F 59 43 1B 44 8A 0D 57 91 08 73 73 7A 48 90 C5 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 24 13:10:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [208.11.142.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F0EF37BF79 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:10:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@federation.addy.com) Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA62250 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:10:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@federation.addy.com) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:10:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Sander Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Registrars, etc. In-Reply-To: <397C93C7.AE5B38C7@sonic.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://domainnamebuyersguide.com/ What do you all think of these people and what they have to say? I've never heard of half the registrars they list, and don't entirely trust their statement about not accepting advertising- how do they pay for their site then? No banners or links to a parent company are visible. (and UGH! that canned FrontPage theme looks unprofessional to me, but that is of course totally a personal opinion) The issues they alert you to seem mostly to be reasonable clauses in the registration agreements designed to protect against cyber-squatting and other "questionable" net activities. There are a few interesting things though, which I haven't verified for accuracy. Some of what they seem to advocate is nonsensical- for instance, does anyone really believe that they'll be immune from having their domain name turned off by the registrar if a dispute gets seriously ugly? A registrar making $12/year from you probably will drop your domain like a hot potato if they start receiving subpoenas and notices naming them in high-figure lawsuits. If they don't, they'll probably go out of business because of having to deal with those issues on a daily basis. So does anyone have any comment on this site, others like it, or the domain name registration process in general? Other than just how screwed up it's gotten since the supposedly beneficial split of course. :) -=Jim=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 24 14: 6:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web5102.mail.yahoo.com (web5102.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.106.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F062737BB2A for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:06:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kellysm_2k@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000724210552.27021.qmail@web5102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.178.167.196] by web5102.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:05:52 PDT Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:05:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Shawn Kelly Subject: List of Web Mail (Was Re: webmail?) To: Jason Fesler , John Angelmo Cc: FreeBSD ISP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1804289383-964472752=:27007" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --0-1804289383-964472752=:27007 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I found this today. Thought it might be of some use. http://www.cru.fr/http-mail/ Shawn --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! --0-1804289383-964472752=:27007 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

I found this today. Thought it might be of some use.

http://www.cru.fr/http-mail/

 

Shawn


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Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! --0-1804289383-964472752=:27007-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 24 14:17:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from endeneu.com (alphabet-host197.dsl.visi.com [209.98.152.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8866B37B68F for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:17:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danarchy@endeneu.com) Received: (qmail 71408 invoked by uid 1001); 24 Jul 2000 21:17:36 -0000 Message-ID: <20000724211736.71407.qmail@endeneu.com> In-reply-to: <20000724210552.27021.qmail@web5102.mail.yahoo.com> From: Dan Dockery To: Shawn Kelly Cc: Jason Fesler , John Angelmo , FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: List of Web Mail (Was Re: webmail?) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 21:17:36 GMT Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't think I've seen it mentioned yet in this thread, but if you're using Qmail you may want to check out SQWebmail. http://www.inter7.com/sqwebmail/ Unlike most of the webmail programs I've found this one runs as a CGI on the mailserver itself and reads the Maildir directly. It's not extremely easy to customize without editing the source code, but it's really fast. -Dan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 24 19:11:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mccons.maxbaud.net (adsl-208-191-223-203.dsl.kscymo.swbell.net [208.191.223.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8049737B883 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 19:11:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@mccons.maxbaud.net) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by mccons.maxbaud.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA25004; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 21:11:26 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from root@mccons.maxbaud.net) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 21:11:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Wm Brian McCane X-Sender: root@localhost To: Andrew Ryder Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Door Lock Security In-Reply-To: <20000717122207.PTXZ6735.mail.vitts.com@[216.64.3.67]> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I wrote a system like this back in about 1991. It used a VeriZone (I think that was the name) card reader. It logged a card when swiped and could protect certain rooms from certain people, etc. It was developed for a Power company, so it was used to protect the storage room where they kept all of the tools. It cut done significantly on people taking stuff home because the office could tell who went in and out. It also made people VERY paranoid. No one would let anyone else in a door that they had swiped, &etc. The other nice feature was that the motors we used were designed to unlock in a power loss situation. This allowed the power company employees to get to tools in the event of an emergency (also, power companies are supposed to shut their power off before a customers if they have to choose). I will look around for the tape back up if you are interested, it was all developed on SCO/Xenix using C and GDBM. brian On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Andrew Ryder wrote: > Does anyone know of a system that will do the following: > > Allow door locks (3 standard sized locks) to be controlled by some system > (key/datachip/stripe card) > interface with a database for logging/adding/etc > > It's mostly just to see who came in when.. etc - Might be the wrong place > to post but I figure > someone might have a system.. Can work in FreeBSD/Windows/Mac > > Thanks.. > > -- > Andrew Ryder | Em: ryder_@chasma.net > Chief Technology Officer | Ph: (603) 886-7908 > Chasma, Inc. | Fx: (603) 886-7918 > http://www.chasma.net | "Same Game. New Rules." > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 24 20:46:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [209.224.254.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7887B37B7A0 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 20:46:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [209.224.254.141]) by mail.westbend.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA16154 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 22:46:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <00eb01bff5ea$f0e5af00$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "FreeBSD-ISP" Subject: Streaming Video Servers Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 22:46:39 -0500 Organization: West Bend Internet X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I found the Quicktime server (net/tcserver), but it only accepts Quicktime movies (*.mov). The problem is that we have mpeg movies and need to either convert it to Quicktime, or find a streaming mpeg player. Does anyone know of a streaming video server that will stream mpeg movies to customers? Is there a converter that will take mpeg movies (video & audio) and convert them to Quicktime? Thanks, Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 24 21:52:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D8FD37B65C for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 21:52:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01735 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:52:19 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) Received: from disc-4-161.aipo.gov.au(10.0.4.161) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma001720; Tue, 25 Jul 00 14:51:55 +1000 Received: from localhost (anwsmh@localhost) by stan.aipo.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00921 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:57:28 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) X-Authentication-Warning: stan.aipo.gov.au: anwsmh owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:57:27 +1000 (EST) From: Stanley Hopcroft X-Sender: anwsmh@stan.aipo.gov.au To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Web mail admin: running /usr/bin/newaliases with 4.0-RELEASE ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, I am writing to ask your help with a web based email administration program. This small C CGI program that updates /etc/aliases and then runs "newaliases" that no longer works on FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE (but works fine with 3.2-RELEASE and 2.2.8-RELEASE) The program is suid root; it fails with "Permission denied" and sendmail (8.9.3) logs "uid non_0 tried to update alias map" Your advice or comment is most welcome. I have tried unsuccessfully some suggestions about a similar thread on Questions to . execute sendmail directly (bypassing the symlink to mailwrapper) . making mailwrapper suid root I can't get *any* suid program that forks and execs newaliases to work; would dispensing with mailwrapper help ? Thank you. Yours sincerely, S Hopcroft Network Specialist IP Australia +61 2 6283 3189 +61 2 6281 1353 FAX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 25 0:25:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from odin.activeisp.com (odin.activeisp.com [213.188.133.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E39F037BAB0 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 00:25:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kenneth@karoliussen.net) Received: from kekar (kekar.activeisp.com [213.188.133.26]) by odin.activeisp.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA73249; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:20:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <024d01bff608$de0a9530$1a85bcd5@kekar.dhs.org> From: "Kenneth Karoliussen" To: "Alejandro Ramirez" , "HSIAO Hsueh-cheng" , References: <01eb01bfeb46$c70b2e20$02c134c8@megared.net.mx> Subject: Re: IBM 3500 M20 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:20:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Aren't there an overall compatibility problem with some of the components used for the Netfinity equipment using FreeBSD? Especially concerning the RAID (ServerRAID) / SCSI controllers.. /Kenneth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alejandro Ramirez" To: "HSIAO Hsueh-cheng" ; Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 4:46 PM Subject: Re: IBM 3500 M20 Yep, very good & very stable equipment. Greetings... Ales ----- Original Message ----- From: "HSIAO Hsueh-cheng" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 9:20 AM Subject: IBM 3500 M20 > Hi folks .... > > Is there anyone use IBM NetFinity 3500 M20 with FreeBSD. > > Thanx. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 25 2: 3:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from eagle.webs.ee (eagle.webs.ee [212.27.224.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A7DA737B988 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 02:03:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rix@ewn.ee) Received: (qmail 87215 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2000 09:03:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ewn.ee) (212.27.224.50) by eagle.webs.ee with SMTP; 25 Jul 2000 09:03:24 -0000 Message-ID: <397D4A38.E6883EB7@ewn.ee> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:05:12 +0300 From: Rivo Nurges Organization: Estonian Wireless Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.7 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: webmail? References: <397C93C7.AE5B38C7@sonic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: eagle.webs.ee 1.6.2 0/0/N Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Kelsey Cummings wrote: > > horde is pretty cool, but TWIG, imoho is far far superior. But, does > require IMAP, php, MySQL. sqwebmail(http://www.inter7.com/sqwebmail/) is very good too, but it requires qmail with Maildir -- Rix http://www.ripe.net/cgi-bin/whois?rix@ewn.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 25 7:10:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.root-servers.ch (alpha.root-servers.ch [195.49.62.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3761037B52A for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 07:10:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 11008 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2000 14:08:38 -0000 Received: from client98-229.hispeed.ch (HELO 10.2.2.100) (62.2.98.229) by ns1.root-servers.ch with SMTP; 25 Jul 2000 14:08:38 -0000 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:09:52 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.44) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <135425274652.20000725160952@buz.ch> To: John Angelmo Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re[2]: webmail? In-reply-To: <397C955A.D016A93@veidit.net> References: <397C93C7.AE5B38C7@sonic.net> <397C955A.D016A93@veidit.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I will prob try Worldpilot :-) > http://www.worldpilot.com I find it very impressive as well.. But the fact that it needs Zope and IMAPd doesn't really please me. I couldn't yet get behind the philosophy of the first one and would like to avoid the second one... Best regards, Gabriel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 25 7:10:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.root-servers.ch (alpha.root-servers.ch [195.49.62.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A95CF37B658 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 07:10:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 11016 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2000 14:10:08 -0000 Received: from client98-229.hispeed.ch (HELO 10.2.2.100) (62.2.98.229) by ns1.root-servers.ch with SMTP; 25 Jul 2000 14:10:08 -0000 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:11:22 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.44) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <36425364642.20000725161122@buz.ch> To: Dan Dockery Cc: Shawn Kelly , Jason Fesler , John Angelmo , FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re[2]: List of Web Mail (Was Re: webmail?) In-reply-To: <20000724211736.71407.qmail@endeneu.com> References: <20000724211736.71407.qmail@endeneu.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Dan, Monday, July 24, 2000, 11:17:36 PM, you wrote: > Unlike most of the webmail programs I've found this one runs as a CGI on > the mailserver itself and reads the Maildir directly. It's not extremely > easy to customize without editing the source code, but it's really fast. ACK. We use it. It looks rather ugly in standard distribution but it does its job very well. Did someone already manage to get a nicer design for it? Best regards, Gabriel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 25 7:53:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from endeneu.com (alphabet-host197.dsl.visi.com [209.98.152.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D20337B5A3 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 07:53:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danarchy@endeneu.com) Received: (qmail 73398 invoked by uid 1001); 25 Jul 2000 14:53:37 -0000 Message-ID: <20000725145337.73397.qmail@endeneu.com> In-reply-to: <36425364642.20000725161122@buz.ch> From: Dan Dockery To: Gabriel Ambuehl Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Re[2]: List of Web Mail (Was Re: webmail?) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:53:37 GMT Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > ACK. We use it. It looks rather ugly in standard distribution but it > does its job very well. Did someone already manage to get a nicer > design for it? Not to the best of my knowledge. I've actually grown quite fond of the no-frills look, though. I'd like to change around some of the colors, but even that is a pretty minor complaint. -Dan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 25 8: 9:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.root-servers.ch (alpha.root-servers.ch [195.49.62.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6174637B61F for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:09:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 11673 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2000 15:09:22 -0000 Received: from client98-229.hispeed.ch (HELO 10.2.2.100) (62.2.98.229) by ns1.root-servers.ch with SMTP; 25 Jul 2000 15:09:22 -0000 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:10:37 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.44) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <0428919503.20000725171037@buz.ch> To: Dan Dockery Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re[4]: List of Web Mail (Was Re: webmail?) In-reply-To: <20000725145337.73397.qmail@endeneu.com> References: <20000725145337.73397.qmail@endeneu.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Dan, Tuesday, July 25, 2000, 4:53:37 PM, you wrote: > I've actually grown quite fond of the no-frills look, though. I'd like to > change around some of the colors, but even that is a pretty minor complaint. I for my self wouldn't mind the look of it but the people who actually use a webmail system do, I think (I only use it to check mail from terminals...). Best regards, Gabriel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 25 8:20:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from qmail.corpex.net (qmail.corpex.net [195.153.247.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 904EC37B649 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:20:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonathan@corpex.com) Received: (qmail 29436 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2000 15:18:30 -0000 Received: from perseus.corpex.net (HELO perseus) (195.153.247.226) by qmail.corpex.net with SMTP; 25 Jul 2000 15:18:30 -0000 From: "Jonathan Defries" To: Subject: RE: IBM 3500 M20 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:20:24 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <024d01bff608$de0a9530$1a85bcd5@kekar.dhs.org> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have an M20 sitting next to me, performs like a dream, worked first time out of the box. The only slight niggle is you need to run 4 as 3.5 claims to support the SCSI controller but doesn't - I'm on 4.1RC now and it even runs my Rocketport which is only supposed to work up until 3.2 RELEASE. - Jonathan > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Kenneth Karoliussen > Sent: 25 July 2000 08:21 > To: Alejandro Ramirez; HSIAO Hsueh-cheng; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: IBM 3500 M20 > > > Aren't there an overall compatibility problem with some > of the components used for the Netfinity equipment using > FreeBSD? Especially concerning the RAID (ServerRAID) / SCSI > controllers.. > > /Kenneth > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alejandro Ramirez" > To: "HSIAO Hsueh-cheng" ; > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 4:46 PM > Subject: Re: IBM 3500 M20 > > > Yep, very good & very stable equipment. > > Greetings... > Ales > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "HSIAO Hsueh-cheng" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 9:20 AM > Subject: IBM 3500 M20 > > > > Hi folks .... > > > > Is there anyone use IBM NetFinity 3500 M20 with FreeBSD. > > > > Thanx. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 25 8:32:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [208.11.142.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79BEC37B57D for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:32:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@federation.addy.com) Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21523 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:32:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@federation.addy.com) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:32:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Sander To: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Registrars, etc. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for all the replies about what registrars you like and hate the most, but of course I did not ask that particular question... > http://domainnamebuyersguide.com/ > What do you all think of these people and what they have to say? I've been talking to a customer that is basing their decision about which registrar to use largely on information from these people- and I'm not 100% sure whether the information is accurate, relevant, or usefull. Links to similar sites with confirming or conflicting information are also potentially usefull. -=Jim=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 25 9:42:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from unix.megared.net.mx (megamail.megared.com.mx [200.52.207.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1888737B69B for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:42:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ales@megared.net.mx) Received: from ales (ales.corp.megared.net.mx [200.52.193.2]) by unix.megared.net.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA97380; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:39:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ales@megared.net.mx) Message-ID: <016a01bff657$1ca7a640$02c134c8@megared.net.mx> From: "Alejandro Ramirez" To: "Kenneth Karoliussen" , "HSIAO Hsueh-cheng" , References: <01eb01bfeb46$c70b2e20$02c134c8@megared.net.mx> <024d01bff608$de0a9530$1a85bcd5@kekar.dhs.org> Subject: Re: IBM 3500 M20 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:40:58 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Aren't there an overall compatibility problem with some > of the components used for the Netfinity equipment using > FreeBSD? Especially concerning the RAID (ServerRAID) / SCSI > controllers.. The 3500 series doesnt come with a RAID card by default, the RAID card comes with the >= 5500 ones. Greetings Ales To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 25 10:40:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.cair.du.edu (atlas.cair.du.edu [130.253.2.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F3737B620 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:40:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ivanfetch@technologist.com) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by denver.du.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #39294) id <01JS6LCMRBYO8WW62B@denver.du.edu> for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:39:38 MDT Received: from oak.ivanfetch.tzo.com ([130.253.204.115]) by denver.du.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #39294) with ESMTP id <01JS6LCKXNFE8WW7JP@denver.du.edu> for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:39:37 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:43:23 -0600 (MDT) From: Ivan Fetch Subject: Menu System X-Sender: ifetch@oak.ivanfetch.tzo.com To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I remember seeing on many (probably all? maybe it's a standard?) Free-Nets a menu system looking something like: Some Free-Net Menu Somewhere 1. Do This 2. DO Something Else P - Previous Menu M - Main Menu L - Logoff Your Choice: Does anyone have any idea what this menu system is called and where I can get it? More Generally: I am looking for a menu system that people can use in place of a shell. Any suggestions; pointers to push me in the right direction are greatly appreciated. Ivan Fetch. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 25 11: 1:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.pace.edu (ntutil.pace.edu [205.232.111.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8171A37B725 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:01:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from js43064n@stmail.pace.edu) Received: from stmail.pace.edu (205.232.111.7:3798) by smtp.pace.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.A80F2D7E@smtp.pace.edu>; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:01:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:01:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200007251401.AA842203652@stmail.pace.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Jonathan Slivko" Reply-To: To: , Ivan Fetch Subject: Re: Menu System X-Mailer: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ivan, or anyone else, I would also appreciate getting a line dropped to me about this. I am also very interested. -- Jonathan M. Slivko ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Ivan Fetch Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:43:23 -0600 (MDT) >Hello, > I remember seeing on many (probably all? maybe it's a >standard?) Free-Nets a menu system looking something like: > >Some Free-Net Menu Somewhere > >1. Do This >2. DO Something Else > >P - Previous Menu >M - Main Menu >L - Logoff > >Your Choice: > > >Does anyone have any idea what this menu system is called and where I can >get it? > >More Generally: I am looking for a menu system that people can use in >place of a shell. Any suggestions; pointers to push me in the right >direction are greatly appreciated. > >Ivan Fetch. > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -- ---------------------------------------------------- Jonathan M. Slivko President, Technical Support, Simple Hosting Solutions Founder/Network Administrator: JMS Internet Services Pager #: (917) 388-5304 (24 Hours/Day) "The comments I make are my own, not those of my employer!" ---------------------------------------------------- -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 25 11: 5:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailer.seidata.com (mailer.seidata.com [208.10.211.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6548537B912 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:05:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pboehmer@seidata.com) Received: from shell.seidata.com (shell.seidata.com [208.10.211.6] (may be forged)) by mailer.seidata.com (8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06154; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:04:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:04:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Boehmer To: Ivan Fetch Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Menu System In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sounds like you want flash, which can be found in ports/shells collection. Its ncurses based, seems pretyy easy to configure, though we do not use it. Paul Boehmer pboehmer@seidata.com On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Ivan Fetch wrote: > Hello, > I remember seeing on many (probably all? maybe it's a > standard?) Free-Nets a menu system looking something like: > > Some Free-Net Menu Somewhere > > 1. Do This > 2. DO Something Else > > P - Previous Menu > M - Main Menu > L - Logoff > > Your Choice: > > > Does anyone have any idea what this menu system is called and where I can > get it? > > More Generally: I am looking for a menu system that people can use in > place of a shell. Any suggestions; pointers to push me in the right > direction are greatly appreciated. > > Ivan Fetch. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 25 11: 7:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from toetag.com (toetag.com [63.192.202.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C630337B75F for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:07:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@toetag.com) Received: from toetag.com (tom@unhooked.net [63.192.202.44]) by toetag.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA03064; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007251800.LAA03064@toetag.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Ivan Fetch Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Menu System In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:43:23 MDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:00:13 -0700 From: "Tom" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:43:23 MDT, Ivan Fetch writes: >Hello, > I remember seeing on many (probably all? maybe it's a >standard?) Free-Nets a menu system looking something like: > >Some Free-Net Menu Somewhere > >1. Do This >2. DO Something Else > >P - Previous Menu >M - Main Menu >L - Logoff > If it's not just something they built themselves, maybe you're thinking of flash? it's in /usr/ports/shells. -- tom@unhooked.net ICQ - 16163541 Spam: the other white meat. AIM - twjansen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 25 15:37:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.cair.du.edu (atlas.cair.du.edu [130.253.2.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735E037BAA3 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:37:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ivanfetch@technologist.com) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by denver.du.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #39294) id <01JS6VQ8I5KG8WW8H9@denver.du.edu> for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:36:56 MDT Received: from oak.ivanfetch.tzo.com ([130.253.204.104]) by denver.du.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #39294) with ESMTP id <01JS6VQ6C8H88WWIKI@denver.du.edu>; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:36:55 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:40:54 -0600 (MDT) From: Ivan Fetch Subject: Re: Menu System In-reply-to: <200007251401.AA842203652@stmail.pace.edu> X-Sender: ifetch@oak.ivanfetch.tzo.com To: "John A. Hengstler" , Jonathan Slivko Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Thus far I have received messages pointing me to the mshell and flash ports - I am currently looking into those (thank you to those who have responded!). Also I found out that (via some web searching) the menus commonly used on Freenet systems seem to be built with something called FreePort, which seems to be (or have been) a Case Western University of Ohio thing (crsu.edu?) - It seems like you may need a license for FreePort but I have yet to get a comformation on that. Ivan. On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Jonathan Slivko wrote: > Ivan, or anyone else, I would also appreciate getting a line dropped to me about this. I am also very interested. -- Jonathan M. Slivko > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: Ivan Fetch > Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:43:23 -0600 (MDT) > > >Hello, > > I remember seeing on many (probably all? maybe it's a > >standard?) Free-Nets a menu system looking something like: > > > >Some Free-Net Menu Somewhere > > > >1. Do This > >2. DO Something Else > > > >P - Previous Menu > >M - Main Menu > >L - Logoff > > > >Your Choice: > > > > > >Does anyone have any idea what this menu system is called and where I can > >get it? > > > >More Generally: I am looking for a menu system that people can use in > >place of a shell. Any suggestions; pointers to push me in the right > >direction are greatly appreciated. > > > >Ivan Fetch. > > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------- > Jonathan M. Slivko > President, Technical Support, Simple Hosting Solutions > Founder/Network Administrator: JMS Internet Services > Pager #: (917) 388-5304 (24 Hours/Day) > > "The comments I make are my own, not those of my employer!" > ---------------------------------------------------- > -- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 25 19:42: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from laf.cioe.com (laf.cioe.com [204.120.165.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3D637BBFF for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 19:42:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@ns1.cioe.com) Received: from ny1wsh031 (blackhole.cioe.com [204.120.165.44]) by laf.cioe.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id e6Q2fuu34810 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 21:42:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000f01bff6ab$12c4ef80$851a050a@winstar.com> From: "Steven E. Ames" To: Subject: quick sendmail question Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 21:41:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How do I get sendmail to append my domain to my outgoing email address even if the destination is another local user? Example. My username is 'steve'. I want to mail to another user on the FBSD machine who's username is 'bob'. So using berkely mail I just say 'mail bob' and proceed as usual. However 'bob' downloads my email using POP3 and cannot reply to 'steve' because 'steve' is not an e-mail address (from the standpoint of bob's SMTP server). I want the return address to read 'steve@mydomain.com'. I realize we could just say this is a berkely mail quirk... but surely there is an easy re-write rule to sendmail to guarantee the desired results? -Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 26 0:30:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from angkor.khmerconnection.com (khmerconnection.com [216.115.239.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74BC137B5F4 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 00:30:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vibol@khmerconnection.com) Received: from sceptre (04-177.028.popsite.net [216.126.180.177]) by angkor.khmerconnection.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with SMTP id AAA27388; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 00:33:07 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: angkor.khmerconnection.com: Host 04-177.028.popsite.net [216.126.180.177] claimed to be sceptre From: "Vibol Hou" To: "Steven E. Ames" , Subject: RE: quick sendmail question Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 00:25:51 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000f01bff6ab$12c4ef80$851a050a@winstar.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I believe if you add the: FEATURE(always_add_domain)dnl directive, it should do the trick. -- Vibol Hou Director, KhmerConnection.com "Connecting Cambodian Minds, Art, and Culture" http://www.khmerconnection.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Steven E. Ames Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 7:42 PM To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: quick sendmail question How do I get sendmail to append my domain to my outgoing email address even if the destination is another local user? Example. My username is 'steve'. I want to mail to another user on the FBSD machine who's username is 'bob'. So using berkely mail I just say 'mail bob' and proceed as usual. However 'bob' downloads my email using POP3 and cannot reply to 'steve' because 'steve' is not an e-mail address (from the standpoint of bob's SMTP server). I want the return address to read 'steve@mydomain.com'. I realize we could just say this is a berkely mail quirk... but surely there is an easy re-write rule to sendmail to guarantee the desired results? -Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 26 4:15:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ctimail3.com (main1.my3mail.com [203.80.96.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7376137BF16 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 04:15:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from July3@wsi-hk.com) Received: from oemcomputer27 (207user29.ctimail3.com [203.80.207.29]) by mail.ctimail3.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA02308 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:15:12 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: <200007261115.TAA02308@mail.ctimail3.com> From: "Peter Forsythe" To: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:11:18 +0800 Subject: Workplace English and Summer Specials Reply-To: July3@wsi-hk.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [This email is an update of Hong Kong government's Workplace English Campaign, and of Wall Street Institute English specials for July. 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Peter Forsythe Fax form to 2575 1999 or email to July@wsi-hk.com: ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please send me more information on WEC and Summer Specials: Name _____________________________ Address___________________________ Phone_____________________________ Fax_______________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------ (For remove, put "remove" in subject line or click on remove@wsi-hk.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 26 6:55:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web6102.mail.yahoo.com (web6102.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.22.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4624B37B52A for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 06:55:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shashi_kant_joshi@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000726135546.3909.qmail@web6102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.180.222.82] by web6102.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 06:55:46 PDT Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 06:55:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Shashi Joshi Subject: sendmail,qmail problem with multiple domains on same IP To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: shashi_kant_joshi@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have > 12 domains on 5 IPs, some IPs have single domain,some have 3 some have subdomains defined. Earlier I had one IP per sub/domain. Things were fine then. Now, the web part works fine, but I can't GET mail for any sub/domains that is NOT the first in the listing for that IP. so, if d1 and d2 map to ip1, then i can get mail for @d1.com but not for @d2.com The mail is queued up, so I guess it has reached the box, but not delivered. I have set the Cw records in /etc/mail/sendmail/cw and the relay-domains has the domains (no Cw prefix?) I even tried installing qmail, and I could send mail out, but couldn't get mail from outside. I have waded through the sendmail man pages/readme files and the web site, as well as qmail installation pages, and still unable to solve it. Please suggest something ASAP!! Thanks in advance, Shashi Joshi PS: situation is so bad, I have to use yahoo mail for all this :-((( I would greatly appreciate if you could CC your reply me as well, since this email id is NOT on the list :-( ===== ----------------------------------------------------------- Shashi Joshi shashi@WEBSI.com @Shift-F1.com @Bhaarat.com ----------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 26 7:14:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from markl.com (markl.com [209.69.36.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B8337B610; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:14:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from squirrel@hammis.com) Received: from localhost (squirrel@localhost) by markl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16399; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:13:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from squirrel@hammis.com) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:13:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Damon Hammis X-Sender: squirrel@markl.com To: Shashi Joshi Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail,qmail problem with multiple domains on same IP In-Reply-To: <20000726135546.3909.qmail@web6102.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You should be able to send and receive mail fine as long as all of the domains and potential hostnames are listed in your sendmail.cw file, which is just a flat text file arranged like this: domain1.com host.domain1.com domain2.com host1.domain2.com host2.domain2.com and so on. Also, make sure you do a kill -1 on the process id listed in /var/run/sendmail.pid whenever you make a change to any of your sendmail config files. Do you have copies of your sendmail.cf and sendmail.cw files that we could see? Any relavant messages from /var/log/maillog would help too. --Damon _ _ |__/| .~ ~. /o=3Do'`./ .' {o__, \ { / . . ) \ =20 `-` '-' \ }=20 .( _( )_.'=20 '---.~_ _ _|=20 On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Shashi Joshi wrote: > Hi, > I have > 12 domains on 5 IPs, some IPs have single domain,some have 3=20 > some have subdomains defined. Earlier I had one IP per sub/domain. > Things were fine then. >=20 > Now, the web part works fine, but I can't GET mail for any sub/domains=20 > that is NOT the first in the listing for that IP. so, if d1 and d2 map > to ip1, then i can get mail for @d1.com but not for @d2.com > The mail is queued up, so I guess it has reached the box, but not > delivered. >=20 > I have set the Cw records in /etc/mail/sendmail/cw and the > relay-domains has the domains (no Cw prefix?) >=20 > I even tried installing qmail, and I could send mail out, but couldn't > get mail from outside. >=20 > I have waded through the sendmail man pages/readme files and the web=20 > site, as well as qmail installation pages, and still unable to solve > it. >=20 > Please suggest something ASAP!! > Thanks in advance, >=20 > Shashi Joshi >=20 > PS: situation is so bad, I have to use yahoo mail for all this :-((( > I would greatly appreciate if you could CC your reply me as well, since > this email id is NOT on the list :-( >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Shashi Joshi > shashi@WEBSI.com @Shift-F1.com @Bhaarat.com > ----------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get Yahoo! Mail =96 Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 26 7:19:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from nemesis.oss.uswest.net (nemesis.oss.uswest.net [204.147.85.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F1B737B671 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:19:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cuy@nemesis.oss.uswest.net) Received: (qmail 78106 invoked by uid 101); 26 Jul 2000 14:19:40 -0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:19:40 -0500 From: Christopher Uy To: Damon Hammis Cc: Shashi Joshi , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail,qmail problem with multiple domains on same IP Message-ID: <20000726091940.A76902@uswest.net> References: <20000726135546.3909.qmail@web6102.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from "squirrel@hammis.com" on Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 10:13:44AM Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org And also make sure that your sendmail.cf file is reading the cw_file. :-) There should be a line in there that reads something like: Fw-o /etc/mail/sendmail.cw Or if you're building it from scratch, make sure you have the following macro in your .mc file: FEATURE(`use_cw_file') Good luck. - chris On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 10:13:44AM -0400, Damon Hammis wrote: > You should be able to send and receive mail fine as long as all of the > domains and potential hostnames are listed in your sendmail.cw file, which > is just a flat text file arranged like this: > > domain1.com > host.domain1.com > domain2.com > host1.domain2.com > host2.domain2.com > > and so on. > > Also, make sure you do a kill -1 on the process id listed in > /var/run/sendmail.pid whenever you make a change to any of your sendmail > config files. > > Do you have copies of your sendmail.cf and sendmail.cw files that we could > see? Any relavant messages from /var/log/maillog would help too. > > --Damon > > _ _ > |__/| .~ ~. > /o=o'`./ .' > {o__, \ { > / . . ) \ > `-` '-' \ } > .( _( )_.' > '---.~_ _ _| > > On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Shashi Joshi wrote: > > > Hi, > > I have > 12 domains on 5 IPs, some IPs have single domain,some have 3 > > some have subdomains defined. Earlier I had one IP per sub/domain. > > Things were fine then. > > > > Now, the web part works fine, but I can't GET mail for any sub/domains > > that is NOT the first in the listing for that IP. so, if d1 and d2 map > > to ip1, then i can get mail for @d1.com but not for @d2.com > > The mail is queued up, so I guess it has reached the box, but not > > delivered. > > > > I have set the Cw records in /etc/mail/sendmail/cw and the > > relay-domains has the domains (no Cw prefix?) > > > > I even tried installing qmail, and I could send mail out, but couldn't > > get mail from outside. > > > > I have waded through the sendmail man pages/readme files and the web > > site, as well as qmail installation pages, and still unable to solve > > it. > > > > Please suggest something ASAP!! > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Shashi Joshi > > > > PS: situation is so bad, I have to use yahoo mail for all this :-((( > > I would greatly appreciate if you could CC your reply me as well, since > > this email id is NOT on the list :-( > > > > ===== > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > Shashi Joshi > > shashi@WEBSI.com @Shift-F1.com @Bhaarat.com > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! > > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Christopher Uy U S WEST Is Now Qwest! Senior Systems Engineer 600 Stinson Blvd. 3S E-mail: cuy@uswest.net Minneapolis, MN 55413 "Honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defense." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 26 8:12:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from qmail.corpex.net (qmail.corpex.net [195.153.247.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2259937B937 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:11:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonathan@corpex.com) Received: (qmail 58454 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2000 15:10:06 -0000 Received: from perseus.corpex.net (HELO perseus) (195.153.247.226) by qmail.corpex.net with SMTP; 26 Jul 2000 15:10:06 -0000 From: "Jonathan Defries" To: "Shashi Joshi" Cc: , Subject: RE: sendmail,qmail problem with multiple domains on same IP Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:11:52 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <20000726135546.3909.qmail@web6102.mail.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What error messages did you get from qmail? Was it logging anything? Was your SMTP service up and running OK? - Jonathan > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Shashi Joshi > Sent: 26 July 2000 14:56 > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: shashi_kant_joshi@yahoo.com > Subject: sendmail,qmail problem with multiple domains on same IP > > > Hi, > I have > 12 domains on 5 IPs, some IPs have single domain,some have 3 > some have subdomains defined. Earlier I had one IP per sub/domain. > Things were fine then. > > Now, the web part works fine, but I can't GET mail for any sub/domains > that is NOT the first in the listing for that IP. so, if d1 and d2 map > to ip1, then i can get mail for @d1.com but not for @d2.com > The mail is queued up, so I guess it has reached the box, but not > delivered. > > I have set the Cw records in /etc/mail/sendmail/cw and the > relay-domains has the domains (no Cw prefix?) > > I even tried installing qmail, and I could send mail out, but couldn't > get mail from outside. > > I have waded through the sendmail man pages/readme files and the web > site, as well as qmail installation pages, and still unable to solve > it. > > Please suggest something ASAP!! > Thanks in advance, > > Shashi Joshi > > PS: situation is so bad, I have to use yahoo mail for all this :-((( > I would greatly appreciate if you could CC your reply me as well, since > this email id is NOT on the list :-( > > ===== > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Shashi Joshi > shashi@WEBSI.com @Shift-F1.com @Bhaarat.com > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 26 9:56: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from alydar.infoteam.com (alydar.infoteam.com [207.246.83.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D7C37B713 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:56:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kmartin@infoteam.com) Received: by alydar.infoteam.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C3B3A5E1E; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:55:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:55:56 -0400 From: Kenn Martin To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: limiting telnet-users Message-ID: <20000726125556.A87381@alydar.infoteam.com> References: <200007241704.TAA13257@ns1.i-p-d.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200007241704.TAA13257@ns1.i-p-d.nl>; from chem@i-p-d.nl on Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 07:15:04PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 07:15:04PM +0200, chem@i-p-d.nl wrote: > Hi, > > I have been investigating a way to limit telnet-users to their own home-dir. > Problem with chroot is that a lot of dirs would have to be copied to the home- > dir, in order for them to work with telnet. We only give telnet-access to users > that specifically ask for it, because ftp is to limited. I remember a post from > about a year ago, of someone who managed it by setting the permissions of the > home-dirs and the dir above at a specific way, i believe in combination with a > specific umask. Can't find that posting in the archives, though. > > I would love to hear some solutions to this problem and/or some pointers. In conjunction with proper permissions, we use the bash shell for the more privileged users and the restricted version, rbash (or bash -r), for anyone else that we decide to grant telnet access to (though we usually require ssh). You can build bash from /usr/ports/shells. You might evaluate if this matches your needs. From 'man bash': RESTRICTED SHELL If bash is started with the name rbash, or the -r option is supplied at invocation, the shell becomes restricted. A restricted shell is used to set up an environment more controlled than the standard shell. It behaves identi- cally to bash with the exception that the following are disallowed or not performed: o changing directories with cd o setting or unsetting the values of SHELL, PATH, ENV, or BASH_ENV o specifying command names containing / o specifying a file name containing a / as an argu- ment to the . builtin command o importing function definitions from the shell envi- ronment at startup o parsing the value of SHELLOPTS from the shell envi- ronment at startup o redirecting output using the >, >|, <>, >&, &>, and >> redirection operators o using the exec builtin command to replace the shell with another command o adding or deleting builtin commands with the -f and -d options to the enable builtin command o specifying the -p option to the command builtin command o turning off restricted mode with set +r or set +o restricted. These restrictions are enforced after any startup files are read. When a command that is found to be a shell script is exe- cuted (see COMMAND EXECUTION above), rbash turns off any restrictions in the shell spawned to execute the script. Kenn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 26 10:26:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from TK147108.tuwien.teleweb.at (TK147108.tuwien.teleweb.at [195.34.147.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A1737BF55 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:26:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from satyr@TK147108.tuwien.teleweb.at) Received: from satyr by TK147108.tuwien.teleweb.at with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13HVDC-0002rf-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:43:18 +0200 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:43:18 +0200 From: "Marinos J . Yannikos" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Reliable rackmount servers? Message-ID: <20000726194318.M26915@TK147108.telekabel.at> Reply-To: mjy@geizhals.at Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I'm looking at buying a rackmount server (preferably 2-3U) with the following specifications: - dual Pentium-III FC-PGA CPU capable - >=1GB ECC SDRAM - LVD-SCSI RAID-1 or Adaptec AAA-UDMA - 2 x 36GB+ disks I have looked at the offerings of the following companies: - Penguin Computing - VA Linux - Dell - IBM (Netfinity) Can anyone please comment on the quality of the products of those companies and how well they can be expected to work with FreeBSD? Recommendations for other companies are also very welcome... Thanks in advance! -mjy -- ***==> Marinos J. Yannikos ***==> http://pobox.com/~mjy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 26 10:43:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from chuggalug.clues.com (chuggalug.clues.com [194.217.82.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A277637B77C for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:43:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from geoffb@chuggalug.clues.com) Received: (from geoffb@localhost) by chuggalug.clues.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA80061; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:43:48 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from geoffb) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:43:48 +0100 From: Geoff Buckingham To: mjy@geizhals.at Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Reliable rackmount servers? Message-ID: <20000726184348.B79537@chuggalug.clues.com> References: <20000726194318.M26915@TK147108.telekabel.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <20000726194318.M26915@TK147108.telekabel.at>; from Marinos J . Yannikos on Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 07:43:18PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 07:43:18PM +0200, Marinos J . Yannikos wrote: > Hi! > > I'm looking at buying a rackmount server (preferably 2-3U) with the > following specifications: > - dual Pentium-III FC-PGA CPU capable > - >=1GB ECC SDRAM > - LVD-SCSI RAID-1 or Adaptec AAA-UDMA > - 2 x 36GB+ disks > > I have looked at the offerings of the following companies: > - Penguin Computing > - VA Linux > - Dell > - IBM (Netfinity) > > Can anyone please comment on the quality of the products of those > companies and how well they can be expected to work with FreeBSD? > Recommendations for other companies are also very welcome... > I have found Dell servers to be excelent, the only problem I have with the current 2400s and 2450s is the onbord RAID is the adaptec one which needs to be disabled to run FreeBSD :-( -- GeoffB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 26 10:47:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web5103.mail.yahoo.com (web5103.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.106.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C3D3437BF2D for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:47:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kellysm_2k@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000726174726.19793.qmail@web5103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.178.167.196] by web5103.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:47:26 PDT Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:47:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Shawn Kelly Subject: Re: Reliable rackmount servers? To: mjy@geizhals.at, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1714636915-964633646=:19066" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --0-1714636915-964633646=:19066 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm very, very new to FreeBSD. With that said, I have a couple of comments. I noticed that you left Compaq off of your list. I believe that Compaq has several servers that would fit the bill for you. Also, if you look in the FreeBSD Handbook you will note that FreeBSD supports many Compaq drive array controllers and NICs. Myself, I found this information quite interesting since I have several Compaq servers running NT that I'm considering moving over to FreeBSD. Just my 2 cents. Shawn --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! --0-1714636915-964633646=:19066 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

I'm very, very new to FreeBSD. With that said, I have a couple of comments. I noticed that you left Compaq off of your list. I believe that Compaq has several servers that would fit the bill for you. Also, if you look in the FreeBSD Handbook you will note that FreeBSD supports many Compaq drive array controllers and NICs.


Myself, I found this information quite interesting since I have several Compaq servers running NT that I'm considering moving over to FreeBSD.


Just my 2 cents.


 


Shawn


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Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! --0-1714636915-964633646=:19066-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 26 11:26:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.winstarmail.com (hades.winstar.net [207.98.129.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4A637BCD0 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:26:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seames@winstarmail.com) Received: from ny1wsh031 (blackhole.cioe.com [204.120.165.44]) by mail.winstarmail.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id e6QIO6Y07079; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:24:06 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <03ee01bff72e$ff46ce90$851a050a@winstar.com> From: "Steven E. Ames" To: "Vibol Hou" , References: Subject: Re: quick sendmail question Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:26:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yep. That got it. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Vibol Hou" > > I believe if you add the: > > FEATURE(always_add_domain)dnl > > directive, it should do the trick. > > -- > Vibol Hou > Director, KhmerConnection.com > "Connecting Cambodian Minds, Art, and Culture" > http://www.khmerconnection.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Steven E. Ames > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 7:42 PM > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: quick sendmail question > > > How do I get sendmail to append my domain to my outgoing email address > even if the destination is another local user? > > Example. My username is 'steve'. I want to mail to another user on the > FBSD machine who's username is 'bob'. So using berkely mail I just say > 'mail bob' and proceed as > usual. However 'bob' downloads my email using POP3 and cannot reply to > 'steve' because 'steve' is not an e-mail address (from the standpoint of > bob's SMTP server). I want the return address to read > 'steve@mydomain.com'. > > I realize we could just say this is a berkely mail quirk... but surely > there is an easy re-write rule to sendmail to guarantee the desired > results? > > -Steve > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 26 11:31:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from Astrovan.cstone.net (astrovan.cstone.net [209.145.64.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3C737B982 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:31:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from highway@cstone.net) Received: from cstone.net ([209.145.93.143]) by Astrovan.cstone.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59789U13500L1350S0V35) with ESMTP id net; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:23:39 -0400 Message-ID: <397F2E69.FE8585F4@cstone.net> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:31:05 -0400 From: Sean Michael Whipkey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mjy@geizhals.at Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reliable rackmount servers? References: <20000726194318.M26915@TK147108.telekabel.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Marinos J . Yannikos" wrote: > Recommendations for other companies are also very welcome... Try Telenet (www.telesys.com). They just got bought by BSDi, and their rack mounts are great. SeanMike -- SeanMike Whipkey - Geek-a-mondo "Extra ninjas make any party, family gathering, or war scene tons more interesting." http://www.ninjahypothesis.com/messenger.htm ObCompanyPlug: http://www.mrgoodbucks.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 26 12:49:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from TK147108.tuwien.teleweb.at (TK147108.tuwien.teleweb.at [195.34.147.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE00137B872 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:49:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from satyr@TK147108.tuwien.teleweb.at) Received: from satyr by TK147108.tuwien.teleweb.at with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13HXRO-0003Vj-00; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:06:06 +0200 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:06:06 +0200 From: "Marinos J . Yannikos" To: Shawn Kelly Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reliable rackmount servers? Message-ID: <20000726220606.N26915@TK147108.telekabel.at> Reply-To: nino@inode.at References: <20000726174726.19793.qmail@web5103.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <20000726174726.19793.qmail@web5103.mail.yahoo.com>; from Shawn Kelly on Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 10:47:26AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm very, very new to FreeBSD. With that said, I have a couple of comments. I noticed that you left Compaq off of your list. I believe that Compaq has several servers that would fit the bill for you. Also, if you look in the FreeBSD Handbook you will note that FreeBSD supports many Compaq drive array controllers and NICs. Thanks for the suggestions. I think the Compaq DL360 would be a very good choice, but I'm not sure whether it is fully supported by FreeBSD with a 0+1 RAID configuration (3.4 preferably!). Success stories are welcome... -mjy -- ***==> Marinos J. Yannikos ***==> http://pobox.com/~mjy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 26 12:58: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailer.seidata.com (mailer.seidata.com [208.10.211.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8031937BAA6 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:58:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pboehmer@seidata.com) Received: from wopr (lan-gw.seidata.com [208.10.211.26]) by mailer.seidata.com (8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA57024 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:57:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000726155222.007d2650@mail.seidata.com> X-Sender: pboehmer@mail.seidata.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:52:22 -0400 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Paul Boehmer Subject: RE: Reliable Rackmount Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Not sure if this one was said, but we have had great success with rackmounts from Telenet Systems, they build specifically for *BSD systems, though a tad on the pricy side. Direct Product Listing: http://hardware.bsdi.com/cgi-bin/telenet.storefront Paul Boehmer Systems Administrator SEI Data, Inc pboehmer@seidata.com (888)200-4392 Voice (812)744-8000 Fax To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 26 14:12:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F45937BF92 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:12:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA65333; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:11:29 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:11:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Dillon To: Shawn Kelly Cc: mjy@geizhals.at, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Reliable rackmount servers? In-Reply-To: <20000726174726.19793.qmail@web5103.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Shawn Kelly wrote: > I'm very, very new to FreeBSD. With that said, I have a couple of > comments. I noticed that you left Compaq off of your list. I > believe that Compaq has several servers that would fit the bill > for you. Also, if you look in the FreeBSD Handbook you will note > that FreeBSD supports many Compaq drive array controllers and > NICs. I have run FreeBSD 3.x and am now running FreeBSD 4.1 on Compaq Proliant 3000 and Proliant ML530 servers, and they work flawlessly. I don't have anything special in them like a RAID controller or dual CPUs, though. The Compaq NICs that all of my servers have are just remarked Intel EtherExpress 10/100 cards of one type or another, so it is no surprise that they work just fine. 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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA= ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01BFF720.54A9EDE0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 26 15:22:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from runner.jjsoft.com (fig2.figdav.com [208.152.114.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 974CD37BEB6 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:22:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jahanur@jjsoft.com) Received: from runner (ns2.jjsoft.com [208.152.114.19]) by runner.jjsoft.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id RAA09485 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:30:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:30:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Jahanur R Subedar X-Sender: jahanur@runner To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Script for Virtual Dns Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi everybody, Does anybody know where can I find a script that will make the virtual dns zone files. I mean something like 'make-localhost'. Any hint will be helpful. Jahanur R Subedar WWW.JJSOFT.COM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 26 21:17:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from nargul.systems.cais.net (nargul.systems.cais.net [205.177.9.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B95C37C00D for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 21:17:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mbarnett@cais.net) Received: from localhost (mbarnett@localhost) by nargul.systems.cais.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA44079 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:23:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mbarnett@cais.net) X-Authentication-Warning: nargul.systems.cais.net: mbarnett owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:23:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Barnett X-Sender: mbarnett@nargul.systems.cais.net To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Password Distribution / Email Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Everyone, We are redesigning our email scheme, and I am looking for an alternative to pushing passwords around on dozens of machines. Right now, we have 10 mail machines for mail exchanging/pop access for our domain. (5 for mx .. 5 for pop .. both setup on a VIP behind a Foundry load balancing switch). The 11th machine exports an nfs file system that all 10 machines mount (deliver and cucipop have been hacked to look in the nfs mounted file system as opposed to /var/mail) It also generates and pushes across the aliases, and creates the master.passwd file and has each of the 10 individual machines rebuild their local password file using the command /usr/sbin/pwd_mkdb -p -s 15 /etc/master.passwd There are currently 24054 entries in the master.passwd file, so this process is going to be unmanageable very soon. We have a few ideas for getting pop to authenticate off of the database, but even if we do this, we will still have to maintain the password files for local delivery. Has anyone been successful in running a mail server that does not contain the authoritative list of users, but gets this information from some central location? (preferably from an sql database). Thanks for any insights. -Michael Barnett CAIS Internet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 0:38:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.i-p-d.nl (ns1.i-p-d.nl [208.239.240.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD6437C059 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:38:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chem@i-p-d.nl) Received: from andy (herdershond.demon.nl [212.238.118.9]) by ns1.i-p-d.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09013; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:28:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from chem@i-p-d.nl) Message-Id: <200007270728.JAA09013@ns1.i-p-d.nl> From: "chem@i-p-d.nl" To: Kenn Martin Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:39:10 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: limiting telnet-users Reply-To: chem@i-p-d.nl Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <20000726125556.A87381@alydar.infoteam.com> References: <200007241704.TAA13257@ns1.i-p-d.nl>; from chem@i-p-d.nl on Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 07:15:04PM +0200 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I have been investigating a way to limit telnet-users to their own home-dir. > > Problem with chroot is that a lot of dirs would have to be copied to the home- > > dir, in order for them to work with telnet. We only give telnet-access to users > > that specifically ask for it, because ftp is to limited. I remember a post from > > about a year ago, of someone who managed it by setting the permissions of the > > home-dirs and the dir above at a specific way, i believe in combination with a > > specific umask. Can't find that posting in the archives, though. > > [snip] > >From 'man bash': > [snip] > o changing directories with cd > I have looked at this, but not being able to cd down to their own directories is not an option. I have been thinking about adding the users to a group wwwusers and than chmod- ing the home-dirs 705 where the group of these homedirs would be wwwusers. When I got some time I will test this. chem To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 0:55:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B7A37C06F for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:55:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from forrestc@imach.com) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA11509; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:58:24 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:58:24 -0600 (MDT) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: "chem@i-p-d.nl" Cc: Kenn Martin , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: limiting telnet-users In-Reply-To: <200007270728.JAA09013@ns1.i-p-d.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I probably missed this info which I am mentioning here from an earlier post. What exactly are you trying to prevent these users from doing? About the only way to confine users to their own little private world is chroot. Period. The problem with any other approach is that it is virtually impossible to confine a user to a specific directory. About the only way to do this is to modify the shell (or provide a teency shell) to prevent access. BUT, as soon as you give them access to an editor, you have opened up an entire can of worms. Either you generally trust your users and you give them a shell account or you don't and you put them in a chroot dir. Any other restrictions you provide essentially serve to keep the clueless honest. Give me 5 mins on any non-chroot system and I'll be past the security. Chroots are SIGIFICANTLY more difficult to break out of. - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 2:10:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from klapaucius.zer0.org (klapaucius.zer0.org [204.152.186.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26C1537C0B0 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 02:10:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gsutter@zer0.org) Received: (from gsutter@localhost) by klapaucius.zer0.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA23913; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 02:10:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gsutter@zer0.org) X-Authentication-Warning: klapaucius.zer0.org: gsutter set sender to gsutter@zer0.org using -f Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 02:10:52 -0700 From: Gregory Sutter To: Michael Barnett Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Password Distribution / Email Message-ID: <20000727021052.B87834@klapaucius.zer0.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from mbarnett@cais.net on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 12:23:38AM -0400 Organization: Zer0 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2000-07-27 00:23 -0400, Michael Barnett wrote: > > We have a few ideas for getting pop to authenticate off of the database, > but even if we do this, we will still have to maintain the password files > for local delivery. Has anyone been successful in running a mail server > that does not contain the authoritative list of users, but gets this > information from some central location? (preferably from an sql > database). postfix (http://www.postfix.org/) can easily be configured to use mysql for this. It's also very fast and secure. Greg -- Gregory S. Sutter "I think not," said Descartes... mailto:gsutter@zer0.org and promptly disappeared. http://www.zer0.org/~gsutter/ PGP DSS public key 0x40AE3052 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 5:30:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C8A37C1EE for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 05:29:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13Hmmo-000BzN-00; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:29:14 +0200 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:29:14 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: "Forrest W. Christian" Cc: "chem@i-p-d.nl" , Kenn Martin , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: limiting telnet-users Message-ID: <20000727142913.A46061@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <200007270728.JAA09013@ns1.i-p-d.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from forrestc@imach.com on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 12:58:24AM -0600 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu 2000-07-27 (00:58), Forrest W. Christian wrote: > About the only way to confine users to their own little private world is > chroot. Period. ITYM jail(2). > Chroots are SIGIFICANTLY more difficult to break out of. There have been, and are still, ways to get out of chroot. See 'sysctl kern.chroot_allow_open_directories', for one. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 5:38:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from Samizdat.uucom.com (samizdat.uucom.com [198.202.217.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E2637B92B for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 05:38:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cshenton@uucom.com) Received: (from cshenton@localhost) by Samizdat.uucom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA22319; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 08:38:14 -0400 (EDT) To: Shawn Kelly Cc: mjy@geizhals.at, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Reliable rackmount servers? References: <20000726174726.19793.qmail@web5103.mail.yahoo.com> From: Chris Shenton Date: 27 Jul 2000 08:38:14 -0400 In-Reply-To: Shawn Kelly's message of "Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:47:26 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 38 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:47:26 -0700 (PDT), Shawn Kelly said: Shawn> I'm very, very new to FreeBSD. With that said, I have a couple Shawn> of comments. I noticed that you left Compaq off of your list. I Shawn> believe that Compaq has several servers that would fit the bill Shawn> for you. Also, if you look in the FreeBSD Handbook you will Shawn> note that FreeBSD supports many Compaq drive array controllers Shawn> and NICs. I tried this a couple years ago with some Compaq gear. They have proprietary hardware on the motherboard which caused me a *lot* of headache. After installing FreeBSD, I found it couldn't see the Ether, SCSI, or video hardware. I had to reinsall WinDoze so I could use Compaq's damn GUI software to disable these devices, then install my own cards for Ether, Video, SCSI. Kinda pointless duplication of HW. After installing FreeBSD again, and configging it came up. But then I made the mistake of wanting to add more memory. Ooops, gotta reinstall WinDoze so I can use the that damn Compaq GUI again to tell it that the RAM has changed. Reinstall FreeBSD again. Close the box. Weld it shut so no HW will change and the GUI won't be needed. Maybe it would have helped to create a small WinDoze partition so the GUI would be available when I wanted to change HW. But dammit, I don't want WinDoze anywhere: I want a FreeBSD ISP. Further, I hate paying for the onboard HW when I can't use it. BYW: after FreeBSD came up, it saw the HW: real cheap video HW with very small RAM, and old, old tired cheapie ethernet chipset, etc. I guess I was glad I installed my own HW instead of this crap. I will NEVER use Compaq HW again. I've been very happy with generic best of breed HW (mobo, scsi, ether) or Dell servers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 6:31:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web5103.mail.yahoo.com (web5103.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.106.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 433C237B859 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 06:31:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kellysm_2k@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000727133140.9831.qmail@web5103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.178.167.196] by web5103.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 06:31:40 PDT Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 06:31:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Shawn Kelly Subject: Re: Reliable rackmount servers? To: Chris Shenton Cc: mjy@geizhals.at, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1804289383-964704700=:9767" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --0-1804289383-964704700=:9767 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wow, this is the second response that I've recieved like this. I was excited to see all of the Compaq support in FreeBSD since we are a Compaq shop. But now, I have to re-think this. I was hoping to convert a couple of my servers to FreeBSD in the next year or so to free up some licensing. I guess I should consider another platform, if thats the path I take. I'm supposed to be making my life easier with FreeBSD, not complicating it further. Thank you, Shawn --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! --0-1804289383-964704700=:9767 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Wow, this is the second response that I've recieved like this. I was excited to see all of the Compaq support in FreeBSD since we are a Compaq shop. But now, I have to re-think this. I was hoping to convert a couple of my servers to FreeBSD in the next year or so to free up some licensing. I guess I should consider another platform, if thats the path I take.

I'm supposed to be making my life easier with FreeBSD, not complicating it further.

 

Thank you,

Shawn


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Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! --0-1804289383-964704700=:9767-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 6:49: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailbag.com (glacier.binc.net [205.173.176.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 342A537B94B for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 06:48:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from deanweb@mailbag.com) Received: from dthrash (mail.deancare.com [208.212.83.68]) by mailbag.com (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id IAA10293; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 08:48:47 -0500 Message-ID: <001f01bff7d1$6ccaf890$3a12d9c7@dthrash> From: "webmaster" To: "Chris Shenton" Cc: References: <20000726174726.19793.qmail@web5103.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Reliable rackmount servers? Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 08:49:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You need to keep a small (20 -30 mb) partition on the root of your Compaq servers for the "BIOS" (or whatever) as Compaq calls it. Actually it's a DOS partition that contains Compaq software for doing all of the configuration stuff. Works pretty nice, although it's a pain in the ass to reboot into that partition. Typically to get into it, you need to press F10. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Shenton" To: "Shawn Kelly" Cc: ; Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 7:38 AM Subject: Re: Reliable rackmount servers? > On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:47:26 -0700 (PDT), Shawn Kelly said: > > Shawn> I'm very, very new to FreeBSD. With that said, I have a couple > Shawn> of comments. I noticed that you left Compaq off of your list. I > Shawn> believe that Compaq has several servers that would fit the bill > Shawn> for you. Also, if you look in the FreeBSD Handbook you will > Shawn> note that FreeBSD supports many Compaq drive array controllers > Shawn> and NICs. > > I tried this a couple years ago with some Compaq gear. They have > proprietary hardware on the motherboard which caused me a *lot* of > headache. > > After installing FreeBSD, I found it couldn't see the Ether, SCSI, or > video hardware. I had to reinsall WinDoze so I could use Compaq's damn > GUI software to disable these devices, then install my own cards for > Ether, Video, SCSI. Kinda pointless duplication of HW. > > After installing FreeBSD again, and configging it came up. But then I > made the mistake of wanting to add more memory. Ooops, gotta reinstall > WinDoze so I can use the that damn Compaq GUI again to tell it that > the RAM has changed. > > Reinstall FreeBSD again. Close the box. Weld it shut so no HW will > change and the GUI won't be needed. > > Maybe it would have helped to create a small WinDoze partition so the > GUI would be available when I wanted to change HW. But dammit, I don't > want WinDoze anywhere: I want a FreeBSD ISP. Further, I hate paying > for the onboard HW when I can't use it. > > BYW: after FreeBSD came up, it saw the HW: real cheap video HW with > very small RAM, and old, old tired cheapie ethernet chipset, etc. I > guess I was glad I installed my own HW instead of this crap. I will > NEVER use Compaq HW again. > > I've been very happy with generic best of breed HW (mobo, scsi, ether) > or Dell servers. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 10:24:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from lvcablemodem.com (hams2.lvcablemodem.com [24.234.0.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1493237B8E4 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:24:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@beldamar.com) Received: from PS7 ([24.234.18.39]) by lvcablemodem.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.517.51); Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:21:51 -0700 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:29:15 -0700 From: "Greg S. Wirth" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.45 S/MIME) Personal Reply-To: "Greg S. Wirth" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <521762720.20000727102915@beldamar.com> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Limiting User Actions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello... Curious, do these same ideas apply to FTP users as well? Speaking of non-anonymous users. I am very interested in the locking of users in their home directories, and not allowing viewing of system files. I have looked at bash -r & chroot, but would like some more information on either using shells, or other means at accomplishing this. Thank you for any info.. Enjoy the day! - -- Greg S. Wirth System Administrator http://www.shoplasvegas.com http://www.beladamar.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 10:40:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E85437B9F7 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:40:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwyatt@rwsystems.net) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (2186 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:36:17 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #1 built 1999-Aug-7) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:36:16 -0500 (CDT) From: James Wyatt To: Shawn Kelly Cc: Chris Shenton , mjy@geizhals.at, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Reliable rackmount servers? In-Reply-To: <20000727133140.9831.qmail@web5103.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Wow, this is the second response that I've recieved like this. I was > excited to see all of the Compaq support in FreeBSD since we are a > Compaq shop. But now, I have to re-think this. I was hoping to convert > a couple of my servers to FreeBSD in the next year or so to free up > some licensing. I guess I should consider another platform, if thats > the path I take. > > I'm supposed to be making my life easier with FreeBSD, not > complicating it further. As usual, more recent experience is usually a better than less recent. Hardware compatability usually gets way better over time and onboard stuff for servers frequently leads available Unix drivers a little. If someone has good experience with something (like Compaq servers), they will try it again. Once someone has a bad vendor experience, they will likely hate it forever. I used to hate Dell and HP servers after earlier hair-pulling experiences, now I'll use them *IF* I can test install and shake them out. Don't expect me to play with another SMP AST Manhattan server again for a while though! (^_^) If you are a 'Compaq shop', take a machine you have there and try installing on it. Change the DRAM and add a drive to prove you can and try banging on it. You are already into Compaq support for your other servers and, when you have a server that can't run Win2K, FBSD will likely easily prove you can get more performance out of your hardware. You also have a good source of spare parts about your campus... Hope this helps - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 11:28:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.qcislands.net (mail.qcislands.net [209.53.238.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BFF37B604 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:28:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ccstore@auth.qcislands.net) Received: from [209.53.238.7] (helo=auth.qcislands.net) by mail.qcislands.net with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #3) id 13HsZU-000N0x-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:39:52 -0700 Received: from ccstore by auth.qcislands.net with local (Exim 3.13 #3) id 13HsOg-0001nV-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:28:42 +0000 From: Jim Pazarena To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, greg@beldamar.com Subject: re:Limiting User Actions X-Mailer: SCO Shell Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <10007271051.aa28564@ccstores.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Subject: Limiting User Actions >Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:29:15 -0700 >From: "Greg S. Wirth" >To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org >Hello... >Curious, do these same ideas apply to FTP users as well? >Speaking of non-anonymous users. >I am very interested in the locking of users in their home >directories, and not allowing viewing of system files. >I have looked at bash -r & chroot, but would like some more >information on either using shells, or other means >at accomplishing this. >Thank you for any info.. http://www.ncftp.com can lock non-anonymous users easily. It allows "virtual ftp" accounts, has a "snoop" program which can see what is transferring at any given time, and many other features. -- Jim Pazarena mailto:paz@qcislands.net http://www.qcislands.net/paz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 11:33:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC3D737BD92 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:33:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from forrestc@imach.com) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15739; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:35:51 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:35:50 -0600 (MDT) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: "chem@i-p-d.nl" , Kenn Martin , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: limiting telnet-users In-Reply-To: <20000727142913.A46061@mithrandr.moria.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > On Thu 2000-07-27 (00:58), Forrest W. Christian wrote: > > About the only way to confine users to their own little private world is > > chroot. Period. > > ITYM jail(2). I had forgotten jail was in the 4.0 chain. Please modify above sentence to "chroot and jail" > > Chroots are SIGIFICANTLY more difficult to break out of. > > There have been, and are still, ways to get out of chroot. See 'sysctl > kern.chroot_allow_open_directories', for one. Yes - that is correct - but how much more difficult is it for the average unix user to get out of a chroot than some permissions based scheme. The point I was trying to make is that about the only almost-secure way to do this is with something like chroot and jail. Anything else can be defeated with some "simple" ingenuity, as opposed to system-level knowlege for chroot. - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 11:46:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from post.corpex.com (post.corpex.com [195.153.247.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED0B137BDC9 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:46:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webmaster@homerton.org.uk) Received: (qmail 18458 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jul 2000 16:57:22 -0000 MBOX-Line: From homerton.org.uk!webmaster Thu Jul 27 17:57:22 2000 remote from mail Received: from perseus(perseus.corpex.net[195.153.247.226]) (801 bytes) by mail.corpex.com via smail with P:smtp/R:bind_hosts/T:smtp-filter (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:57:21 +0100 (BST) (Smail-3.2.0.105 1999-Mar-3 #3 built 1999-Mar-26) Message-ID: <000701bff7ec$35ecb0f0$e2f799c3@corpex.net> From: "Homerton Webmaster" To: Subject: FTP Servers Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:00:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What FTP server would people recommend? People have mentioned proftpd but it seems every version has a root exploit for it. I touched wu a long time ago, is that worth using these days? TIA, Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 12:38:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DFDB37B69C for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:38:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jan@smartsoft.cc) Received: from smartsoft.cc (client-209-158-93-136.bellatlantic.net [209.158.93.136]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA07726; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:38:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39808F9B.84429DD6@smartsoft.cc> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:38:04 -0400 From: Jan Knepper Organization: Smartsoft, LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Homerton Webmaster , FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FTP Servers References: <000701bff7ec$35ecb0f0$e2f799c3@corpex.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hmmm, I haven't heard about any problems with proftpd. I am hoping to go online with it soon. References so far have encouraged the use of proftpd over anything else so far... Jan Homerton Webmaster wrote: > What FTP server would people recommend? People have mentioned proftpd but > it seems every version has a root exploit for it. I touched wu a long time > ago, is > that worth using these days? > > TIA, > > Matt > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Jan Knepper Smartsoft, LLC 88 Petersburg Road Petersburg, NJ 08270 U.S.A. http://www.smartsoft.cc/ http://www.pianoprincess.com/ http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess http://www.riffage.com/Bands/0,2939,2859,00.html http://pianoprincess.iuma.com/ http://www.changemusic.com/piano_princess Phone : 609-628-4260 FAX : 609-628-1267 FAX : 303-845-6415 http://www.fax4free.com/ Phone : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) FAX : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 12:49:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hitline.ch (ccgate.com4u.ch [195.129.74.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069E037BABF for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:49:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from micheal@com4u.ch) Received: from [195.129.74.2] (HELO [10.10.10.150]) by hitline.ch (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3b9) with ESMTP id 1765505 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:50:37 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: micheal%com4u.ch@mail.com4u.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <39808F9B.84429DD6@smartsoft.cc> References: <000701bff7ec$35ecb0f0$e2f799c3@corpex.net> <39808F9B.84429DD6@smartsoft.cc> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:48:56 +0200 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Michael O Shea Subject: Re: FTP Servers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Hmmm, I haven't heard about any problems with proftpd. I am hoping to go >online with it soon. References so far have encouraged the use of proftpd over >anything else so far... > >Jan Ditto here. Works a charm with SQL authentication also. No system accounts needed. -- Micheal O Shea Email:micheal@com4u.ch com4u.ch http://www.com4u.ch Breitistrasse 7B PGP key available upon request. CH-5506 Maegenwil Tel: +41 62 896 46 26 Switzerland To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 13: 3:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from black.purplecat.net (ns1.purplecat.net [209.16.228.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97A9537BABF for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:03:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pab@purplecat.net) Received: from private (ci377160-a.ashvil1.nc.home.com [24.15.65.209]) by black.purplecat.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA10740 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 16:03:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from pab@purplecat.net) Reply-To: From: "pab" To: Subject: sendmail question (sorry if this is the wrong list) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 16:07:49 -0400 Message-ID: <000501bff806$5735d060$c901a8c0@private> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please let me know if this list is not the right place to ask. I am currently running freebsd 2.2.8 with sendmail 8.8.8. currently incoming mail appears to land in /var/mail before being handed off to local users mailboxes. However, I am running low on space in /var Is it possible to move the location of /var/mail without too much difficulty to another partition that I have plenty of space on? Ideas or other options are welcomed. Thanks in advance. Peter Brezny purplecat.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 13:15:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from likes.radiohead.net (likes.radiohead.net [64.63.20.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A4737C07E for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:15:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danp@likes.radiohead.net) Received: by likes.radiohead.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CCE7CB1; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:15:19 -0700 From: Dan Peterson To: pab Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail question (sorry if this is the wrong list) Message-ID: <20000727131519.A60457@erinyes.net> References: <000501bff806$5735d060$c901a8c0@private> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.4-current-20000702i In-Reply-To: <000501bff806$5735d060$c901a8c0@private>; from pab@purplecat.net on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 04:07:49PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 04:07:49PM -0400, pab wrote: | Is it possible to move the location of /var/mail without too much difficulty | to another partition that I have plenty of space on? it shouldn't be a problem to stop sendmail, mv /var/mail to where you want it to live, and then link /var/mail's new location to /var/mail. example: say you want /var/mail to live in /usr as /usr/mail. make sure /usr/mail doesn't already exist stop sendmail mv /var/mail /usr/mail ln -s /usr/mail /var/mail start sendmail should work fine! -dan -- Dan Peterson / danp@erinyes.net / 415.505.4855 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 13:16:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB7137C07E for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:16:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jan@smartsoft.cc) Received: from smartsoft.cc (client-209-158-94-92.bellatlantic.net [209.158.94.92]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA06738; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 16:16:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39809893.C8EE46FD@smartsoft.cc> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 16:16:19 -0400 From: Jan Knepper Organization: Smartsoft, LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael O Shea Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FTP Servers References: <000701bff7ec$35ecb0f0$e2f799c3@corpex.net> <39808F9B.84429DD6@smartsoft.cc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael O Shea wrote: > >Hmmm, I haven't heard about any problems with proftpd. I am hoping to go > >online with it soon. References so far have encouraged the use of proftpd over > >anything else so far... > > > >Jan > Ditto here. Works a charm with SQL authentication also. No system > accounts needed. Well, I just use a fake ~/etc and put a 'passwd' and 'group' file in there proftpd uses... The only problem I have run into is the fact that when using an alternative 'passwd' and 'group' file and also want to do anonymous FTP the 'UID' being used for anonymous FTP has to be in those 'passwd' and 'group' files. (That got me busy for a while). Other than that. Just don't run it as a 'root' deamon of course and everything should be fine. Jan -- Jan Knepper Smartsoft, LLC 88 Petersburg Road Petersburg, NJ 08270 U.S.A. http://www.smartsoft.cc/ http://www.pianoprincess.com/ http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess http://www.riffage.com/Bands/0,2939,2859,00.html http://pianoprincess.iuma.com/ http://www.changemusic.com/piano_princess Phone : 609-628-4260 FAX : 609-628-1267 FAX : 303-845-6415 http://www.fax4free.com/ Phone : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) FAX : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 13:22:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.deadbbs.com (hermes.cpetc.com [207.137.157.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEFC537C0E6 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:22:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Kahn@deadbbs.com) Received: from erin-laptop (mongo.sdccd.cc.ca.us [209.129.16.5]) by hermes.deadbbs.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id e6RKNfm16586; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:23:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Erin" To: , Subject: RE: sendmail question (sorry if this is the wrong list) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:22:36 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bff808$68075100$e815820a@erin-laptop.sdccd.cc.ca.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-To: <000501bff806$5735d060$c901a8c0@private> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Please let me know if this list is not the right place to ask. > I am currently running freebsd 2.2.8 with sendmail 8.8.8. You should really look into upgrading to atleast 8.9.3 > currently incoming mail appears to land in /var/mail > before being handed off to local users mailboxes. Sounds stock so far. > However, I am running low on space in /var > Is it possible to move the location of /var/mail without too > much difficulty > to another partition that I have plenty of space on? Yes. An easy way to do it is to move the /var/mail directory to another place, like maybe /usr/mail. Once you do this all you have to do is creat a link from /var/mail to its new home. man mv man ln > Ideas or other options are welcomed. You could also look into procmail and move the mailboxes into users home directories. Good luck. Erin mailto:kahn@deadbbs.com http://www.deadbbs.com http://www.fortenberry.net "Can i dial 1-255-255-255255 and make every phone in the world ring?" -- Tanuki To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 13:27:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sn1oexchr01.nextvenue.com (sn1oexchr01.nextvenue.com [63.209.169.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 51A5437C05B for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:27:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nevans@nextvenue.com) Received: FROM sn1exchmbx.nextvenue.com BY sn1oexchr01.nextvenue.com ; Thu Jul 27 16:25:29 2000 -0400 Received: by sn1exchmbx.nextvenue.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 16:22:51 -0400 Message-ID: <712384017032D411AD7B0001023D799B07CA78@sn1exchmbx.nextvenue.com> From: Nick Evans To: "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" , "'freebsd-net@freebsd.org'" Subject: Fault tolerance across multiple boxes. Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 16:22:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BFF808.6A4C8610" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BFF808.6A4C8610 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have a FreeBSD 4.0-R firewall box running IPFilter with 4 interfaces (office, external, dmz, engineering networks). I also have two switches one being a backup of the other. I am using STP, and possibly HSRP soon to provide the fault sensory information between the switches. Basically what I am looking to do is if one of the switches goes down STP will detect a closed path and automatically bring the other switch live. My predicament is that if either the switch or the firewall goes down the other has to be brought live without intervention by a user. The Cisco PIX's we have now will do automatic failover between two physical devices. They have identical configurations and when one is detected as dead the other will come online and all is well. Is there a way to do something similar with FreeBSD? Perhaps something that communicates through a serial port and can then activate interfaces or provide some other means of fault tolerance? thx nick ------------------------------------------ nick.evans network.engineering NextVenue, Inc. phone: (212) 909.2988 pager: (888) 642.5541 ------_=_NextPart_001_01BFF808.6A4C8610 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fault tolerance across multiple boxes.

I have a FreeBSD 4.0-R firewall box running IPFilter = with 4 interfaces (office, external, dmz, engineering networks). I also = have two switches one being a backup of the other. I am using STP, and = possibly HSRP soon to provide the fault sensory information between the = switches. Basically what I am looking to do is if one of the switches = goes down STP will detect a closed path and automatically bring the = other switch live. My predicament is that if either the switch or the = firewall goes down the other has to be brought live without = intervention by a user. The Cisco PIX's we have now will do automatic = failover between two physical devices. They have identical = configurations and when one is detected as dead the other will come = online and all is well. Is there a way to do something similar with = FreeBSD? Perhaps something that communicates through a serial port and = can then activate interfaces or provide some other means of fault = tolerance?

thx
nick

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------_=_NextPart_001_01BFF808.6A4C8610-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 13:34:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smartsoft.cc (client-209-158-91-96.bellatlantic.net [209.158.91.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0102737BE94 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:34:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jan@smartsoft.cc) Received: (qmail 36359 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2000 20:30:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smartsoft.cc) (192.168.0.73) by smartsoft.cc with SMTP; 27 Jul 2000 20:30:52 -0000 Message-ID: <39809CA0.29759DB1@smartsoft.cc> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 16:33:36 -0400 From: Jan Knepper Organization: Smartsoft, LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erin Cc: pab@purplecat.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail question (sorry if this is the wrong list) References: <000001bff808$68075100$e815820a@erin-laptop.sdccd.cc.ca.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Erin wrote: > > Ideas or other options are welcomed. > You could also look into procmail and move the mailboxes into > users home directories. I would concider moving to qmail when you decide to move anywhere... qmail supports mail into the users home directory, but also into a separate directory structure. Even better together with vpopmail it supports 'virtual domains' in a way I could not believe was available... Jan -- Jan Knepper Smartsoft, LLC 88 Petersburg Road Petersburg, NJ 08270 U.S.A. http://www.smartsoft.cc/ http://www.pianoprincess.com/ http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess http://www.riffage.com/Bands/0,2939,2859,00.html http://pianoprincess.iuma.com/ http://www.changemusic.com/piano_princess Phone : 609-628-4260 FAX : 609-628-1267 FAX : 303-845-6415 http://www.fax4free.com/ Phone : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) FAX : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 13:42: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3FA437B86A for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:42:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from forrestc@imach.com) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16865; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:44:32 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:44:29 -0600 (MDT) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: pab Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail question (sorry if this is the wrong list) In-Reply-To: <000501bff806$5735d060$c901a8c0@private> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, pab wrote: > Is it possible to move the location of /var/mail without too much difficulty > to another partition that I have plenty of space on? (shut down sendmail, pop servers etc). mv /var/mail/* /new/location (Or use another method if this doesn't preserve permissions - test with a couple files). rmdir /var/mail ln -s /new/locatation /var/mail - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 13:43:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F61337BA9A for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:43:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from forrestc@imach.com) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16880; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:45:05 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:45:05 -0600 (MDT) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: Dan Peterson Cc: pab , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail question (sorry if this is the wrong list) In-Reply-To: <20000727131519.A60457@erinyes.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is even better than moving the files separately... On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Dan Peterson wrote: > Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:15:19 -0700 > From: Dan Peterson > To: pab > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: sendmail question (sorry if this is the wrong list) > > On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 04:07:49PM -0400, pab wrote: > | Is it possible to move the location of /var/mail without too much difficulty > | to another partition that I have plenty of space on? > > it shouldn't be a problem to stop sendmail, mv /var/mail to where you want > it to live, and then link /var/mail's new location to /var/mail. example: > > say you want /var/mail to live in /usr as /usr/mail. > > make sure /usr/mail doesn't already exist > stop sendmail > mv /var/mail /usr/mail > ln -s /usr/mail /var/mail > start sendmail > > should work fine! > -dan > > -- > Dan Peterson / danp@erinyes.net / 415.505.4855 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 13:55:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from WEBSI.com (websi.com [216.205.27.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F270237C249; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:55:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shashi@WEBSI.com) Received: (from shashi@localhost) by WEBSI.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA22678; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 02:13:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from shashi) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 02:13:59 -0400 From: shashi To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: sendmail/qmail problem with multiple virtual domains on same IP Message-ID: <20000726021359.A22466@Shift-F1.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have > 12 domains on 5 IPs, some IPs have single domain,some have 3 some have subdomains defined. Earlier I had one IP per sub/domain. Things were fine then. Now, the web part works fine, but I can't GET mail for any sub/domains that is NOT the first in the listing for that IP. so, if d1 and d2 map to ip1, then i can get mail for @d1.com but not for @d2.com The mail is queued up, so I guess it has reached the box, but not delivered. I have set the Cw records in /etc/mail/sendmail/cw and the relay-domains has the domains (no Cw prefix?) I even tried installing qmail, and I could send mail out, but couldn't get mail from outside. I have waded through the sendmail man pages/readme files and the web site, as well as qmail installation pages, and still unable to solve it. Please suggest something ASAP!! Thanks in advance, -- Shashi Joshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 13:55:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from WEBSI.com (websi.com [216.205.27.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD8537C274; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:55:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shashi@WEBSI.com) Received: (from shashi@localhost) by WEBSI.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA19512; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 23:27:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from shashi) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 23:27:14 -0400 From: shashi To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: SENDMAIL config? Cant receive mail for multiple domains on same IP Message-ID: <20000724232714.A19491@Shift-F1.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am hosting multiple domains on a single IP. This is something I am trying new, multiple domains on the same IP. The web part works fine, all domains are visible via the browser. But I am not able to receive any mail for the domains that are lsited second onwards on a give IP. ONly mail for the FIRST entry seems to make through. I have setup sendmail for all the domains (Cw in sendmail.cw) and for relay in relay-domains (all domains listed directly. Do I need a Cr or something like that prefix?) I do see messages for these domains in the mailq but it never comes to /var/mail/$user! Any help is appreciated ASAP :-(( Shashi Joshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 14:31:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from durango.picus.com (durango.picus.com [209.100.20.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D081637C0FC for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:31:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from troy@picus.com) Received: from abyss [209.100.22.250] by durango.picus.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A99C7700EC; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:29:00 -0400 From: "Troy Settle" To: Subject: Qmail, vpopmail, sqwebmail, courier-imapd, and maildrop Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:31:40 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org All, Last week, I installed qmail for the first time. After fiddling around, I finally found how to start it and set it to start at boot time. No problem. I got vpopmail installed and working. Beautiful. It took me a few hours of digging around before I got an understanding of how they interact with each other. I then got sqwebmail and courier-imapd installed and working. Again, this was absolutely beautiful to see happen. So far, there's 4 independant sources working together in perfect harmony. Truely amazing. Now, I would like to get maildrop into the picture, but I'm not quite sure how to do this. I haven't been able to find any documentation that shows how to integrate maildrop with vpopmail. Sqwebmail doesn't seem to support maildrop (would be nice feature for sqwebmail if it could be used to set up message processing with maildrop). I've searched the web for hints, but haven't had any luck finding anything useful. Can anyone help me understand how to wedge maildrop into my config? I'd really like to have filtering/processing abilities before I switch all my mail over. TIA, -Troy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 15:45:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from inet03.citec.qld.gov.au (inet03.citec.qld.gov.au [203.5.10.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F002E37BBED for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:45:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au) Received: by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au; id IAA09727; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:43:45 +1000 (EST) Received: from guru.citec.qld.gov.au( 147.132.152.220) by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma009665; Fri, 28 Jul 00 08:43:42 +1000 Received: from localhost (sgcccdc@localhost) by guru.citec.qld.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA18774; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:43:35 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au) X-Authentication-Warning: guru.citec.qld.gov.au: sgcccdc owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:43:35 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Campbell To: "Forrest W. Christian" Cc: Dan Peterson , pab , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail question (sorry if this is the wrong list) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Forrest W. Christian wrote: > > This is even better than moving the files separately... Is it guaranteed not to stuff up permissions/ownerships? [stuff deleted] > > stop sendmail > > mv /var/mail /usr/mail > > ln -s /usr/mail /var/mail > > start sendmail Colin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 18:28: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB0D37B5CA for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:27:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from forrestc@imach.com) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA18813; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:29:48 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:29:48 -0600 (MDT) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: Colin Campbell Cc: Dan Peterson , pab , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail question (sorry if this is the wrong list) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Colin Campbell wrote: > > This is even better than moving the files separately... > > Is it guaranteed not to stuff up permissions/ownerships? Guarantee? You've got to be kidding :) I think it is LESS LIKELY to do so. Try with a sample directory between the partitions involved. - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 18:39:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from peppermint.national.com.au (peppermint.national.com.au [203.57.240.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA90137B5CA for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:39:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nconedd@peppermint.national.com.au) Received: (from nconedd@localhost) by peppermint.national.com.au (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id LAA15708; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:37:50 +1000 (EST) From: Enno Davids Message-Id: <200007280137.LAA15708@peppermint.national.com.au> Subject: Re: sendmail question (sorry if this is the wrong list) In-Reply-To: from "Forrest W. Christian" at "Jul 27, 0 06:29:48 pm" To: forrestc@imach.com (Forrest W. Christian) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:37:48 +1000 (EST) Cc: sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au, danp@erinyes.net, pab@purplecat.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | > > This is even better than moving the files separately... | > | > Is it guaranteed not to stuff up permissions/ownerships? | | Guarantee? You've got to be kidding :) | | I think it is LESS LIKELY to do so. Ordinarily this is why us old timers use tar or cpio. Something like this: cd srcdir ; tar -cf - . | (cd destdir ; tar -xvpf - ) Note the use of the 'p' flag to preserve perms/owners/etc. Enno. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 18:48: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web6103.mail.yahoo.com (web6103.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.22.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 524F337C191 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:47:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shashi_kant_joshi@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000728014854.22163.qmail@web6103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.119.11.199] by web6103.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:48:54 PDT Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:48:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Shashi Joshi Subject: Re: sendmail,qmail problem with multiple domains on same IP To: Christopher Uy , Damon Hammis Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, shashi@websi.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks all for reply. I am doing the standard stuff. I think the problem maybe in the DNS setting. My ISP keeps saying it is set fine, but I am not sure. Another thing to remember is that this is the first time I am doing multiple domains/subdomains on the same IP. The other thing is that via the web all domains, subdomains work, so that makes me think DNS is fine. For multiple domains mapped on the same IP, what does one need to set for sendmail to work? Does DNS need to be set differently? Currently all the subdomains/domains have the main domain as the MX record. /var/log/mail.log: ========================= Jul 27 21:23:10 DOMAIN sendmail[27566]: MAA16285: to=USER@VIRTDOMAIN.com, delay=4+09:19:18, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, relay=VIRTDOMAIN.com., stat=Deferred: Operation timed out with VIRTDOMAIN.com. mailq ================= MAA16298 1089 Sun Jul 23 12:05 moshak@hotbot.com (Deferred: Operation timed out with VIRTDOMAIN.com.) USER@VIRTDOMAIN.com error on the sending machine (usa.net) ========================================= The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... Deferred: Operation timed out with VIRTDOMAIN.com. Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue Final-Recipient: RFC822; USER@VIRTDOMAIN.com Action: failed Status: 4.4.7 Remote-MTA: DNS; VIRTDOMAIN.com Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 19:25:50 -0400 (EDT) Any help is welcome :-((( Shashi Joshi --- Christopher Uy wrote: > And also make sure that your sendmail.cf file is reading the cw_file. > :-) There should be a line in there that reads something like: > > Fw-o /etc/mail/sendmail.cw > > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 10:13:44AM -0400, Damon Hammis wrote: > > You should be able to send and receive mail fine as long as all of > the > > domains and potential hostnames are listed in your sendmail.cw > file, which > > is just a flat text file arranged like this: > > > > domain1.com > > host.domain1.com > > domain2.com > > host1.domain2.com > > host2.domain2.com ===== ----------------------------------------------------------- Shashi Joshi shashi@WEBSI.com @Shift-F1.com @Bhaarat.com ----------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 18:48:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5823137C187 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:48:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from forrestc@imach.com) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA18938; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:50:45 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:50:44 -0600 (MDT) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: Enno Davids Cc: sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au, danp@erinyes.net, pab@purplecat.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail question (sorry if this is the wrong list) In-Reply-To: <200007280137.LAA15708@peppermint.national.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Enno Davids wrote: > | > Is it guaranteed not to stuff up permissions/ownerships? > | > | Guarantee? You've got to be kidding :) > | > | I think it is LESS LIKELY to do so. > > Ordinarily this is why us old timers use tar or cpio. Something like this: > > cd srcdir ; tar -cf - . | (cd destdir ; tar -xvpf - ) > > Note the use of the 'p' flag to preserve perms/owners/etc. It looks like under FreeBSD the move is safe.... According to the man page anyways. (I too have used the tar on systems where the move was not safe) I've also used cp then rm -r with the appropriate flags... That way you can make sure everything works and cp tends to be a lot better.. - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 19:37:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from likes.radiohead.net (likes.radiohead.net [64.63.20.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A6137B6CB for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:37:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danp@likes.radiohead.net) Received: by likes.radiohead.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9A94E68; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:37:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:37:55 -0700 From: Dan Peterson To: "Forrest W. Christian" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail question (sorry if this is the wrong list) Message-ID: <20000727193755.A1221@erinyes.net> References: <200007280137.LAA15708@peppermint.national.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.4-current-20000702i In-Reply-To: ; from forrestc@imach.com on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 06:50:44PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 06:50:44PM -0600, Forrest W. Christian wrote: | It looks like under FreeBSD the move is safe.... | According to the man page anyways. this is correct. according to the mv(1) man page (of 4.1-STABLE, anyway), when moving across filesystems, mv will automatically cp (with -p to preserve permissions/ownership) to the new destination and then delete the source. -dan -- Dan Peterson / danp@erinyes.net / 415.550.4855 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 27 21:33:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from patrol.area51.fremont.ca.us (adsl-63-195-147-14.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net [63.195.147.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD6F37B6FF for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:33:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mharo@patrol.area51.fremont.ca.us) Received: (from mharo@localhost) by patrol.area51.fremont.ca.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA80274 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:33:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mharo) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:33:37 -0700 From: Michael Haro To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Bay Area Colo Recommendations? Message-ID: <20000727213337.A80236@area51.fremont.ca.us> Reply-To: mharo@area51.fremont.ca.us Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, a few of my friends want to setup a FreeBSD server and colocate it at a colo facility in the Bay Area (California). I am wondering which colo places to look at and if this is something that I would be able to afford. We could get away with 1 IP and 2-4RU of rack space and don't plan on using much bandwidth. We do want it on a fast net connection though (1-10 Mbit) so we can access it from our DSL and cable modem connections. Any pointers as to where to look would be great. Thanks, Michael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 0:58:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from enya.clari.net.au (enya.clari.net.au [203.8.14.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D64337B551 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:58:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danny@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (danny@localhost) by enya.clari.net.au (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA02598 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:58:16 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from danny@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: enya.clari.net.au: danny owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:58:15 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" X-Sender: danny@enya.clari.net.au To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Japanese language web servers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can anyone tell me if there is anything special to be configured to make apache serve Japanese language web pages? My guess is no, other than perhaps some mime type tweaking. 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Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-ISP Internet Services Providers This list discusses issues related to FreeBSD in an ISP environment --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 2:34:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from grunt.vl.net.ua (grunt.vl.net.ua [194.44.80.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B5437C1AD for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 02:34:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from news@grunt.vl.net.ua) Received: from news by grunt.vl.net.ua with local (Exim 3.12 #2) id 13I6XN-000Huq-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:34:37 +0300 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Majordomo results Date: 28 Jul 2000 12:34:31 +0300 Message-ID: <20000728092518.1789F37C20A@hub.freebsd.org> X-Trace: uran.kharkiv.net 964776877 67556 127.0.0.1 (28 Jul 2000 09:34:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.kharkiv.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Jul 2000 09:34:37 GMT X-Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) X-Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 538) X-To: freebsd-isp-m@kharkiv.net X-Reply-To: Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG X-Via: News-To-Mail v1.0 From: Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -- >>>> auth f3e87232 subscribe freebsd-isp Succeeded. >>>> --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 2:56: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from fork.computel.sk (fork.computel.sk [195.28.96.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C01E37B91D for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 02:56:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pavol_adamec@tempest.sk) Received: from tempest.sk (t74.tempest.sk [195.28.100.74]) by fork.computel.sk with ESMTP id LAA29576 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:55:58 +0200 Message-ID: <3981589C.9C7B4CFD@tempest.sk> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:55:40 +0200 From: Pavol Adamec Organization: Tempest X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: strange thing with list subscription Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A strange thing happened to me right now. I've subscribed to freebsd-isp few months ago. Right now I've received subscription confirmation and the list welcome message. The same thing seems to be going on with freebsd-security. Am I mad or a dumb? Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 3:36:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from static.unixfreak.org (static.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A470C37B9A6 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 03:36:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@static.unixfreak.org) Received: by static.unixfreak.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A62D01F11; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 03:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: strange thing with list subscription In-Reply-To: <3981589C.9C7B4CFD@tempest.sk> from Pavol Adamec at "Jul 28, 2000 11:55:40 am" To: Pavol Adamec Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 03:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Dima Dorfman X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20000728103608.A62D01F11@static.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > A strange thing happened to me right now. I've subscribed > to freebsd-isp few months ago. Right now I've received > subscription confirmation and the list welcome message. The > same thing seems to be going on with freebsd-security. > Am I mad or a dumb? Neither. But I'm not so sure about another individual. Apparently somebody is subscribing the lists to themselves. I'm sure somebody will take care of it. Hope this helps Dima > > Paul > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -- Dima Dorfman - Enriched/HTML messages > /dev/null PGP Fingerprint: CC 2A DD 54 12 85 7D 8B B3 CE B3 10 9C BE D5 69 Finger dima@unixfreak.org for public PGP key. "Money is the root of all evil. Who wants to be good, anyway?" -- Bazooka Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 3:40:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from qmail.corpex.net (qmail.corpex.net [195.153.247.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 364AC37BE19 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 03:40:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonathan@corpex.com) Received: (qmail 75291 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2000 10:38:30 -0000 Received: from perseus.corpex.net (HELO perseus) (195.153.247.226) by qmail.corpex.net with SMTP; 28 Jul 2000 10:38:30 -0000 From: "Jonathan Defries" To: "Freebsd-Isp@Freebsd. Org" Subject: RE: FTP Servers Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:39:56 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org pre10 (the current in ports) is forbidden, says: proftpd-1.2.0p10 is forbidden: Remote root hole, exploitable anonymously. That's on my 4.1-RC, I think there was something more dramatic after I updated ports yesterday (4.1-STABLE), but I can't remember and that machine is offline right now. I've found proftpd to be a good performer though. - Jonathan > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Michael O Shea > Sent: 27 July 2000 20:49 > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: FTP Servers > > > >Hmmm, I haven't heard about any problems with proftpd. I am hoping to go > >online with it soon. References so far have encouraged the use > of proftpd over > >anything else so far... > > > >Jan > Ditto here. Works a charm with SQL authentication also. No system > accounts needed. > -- > > > Micheal O Shea Email:micheal@com4u.ch > com4u.ch http://www.com4u.ch > Breitistrasse 7B PGP key available upon request. > CH-5506 Maegenwil Tel: +41 62 896 46 26 > Switzerland > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 4: 7:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (finland.ispro.net.tr [212.174.120.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFACA37C1D1 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:07:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA96670 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:07:04 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:07:04 +0300 (EEST) From: Evren Yurtesen To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: NIS+AMD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there anybody using amd with nis maps? I couldnt make it work with nis but it works fine without it with the same conf file. Evren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 4:42:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from warf.msc.cornell.edu (warf.msc.cornell.edu [128.84.249.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F0C37C05D; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:41:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mitch@ccmr.cornell.edu) Received: from khitomer.msc.cornell.edu (IDENT:0@khitomer.msc.cornell.edu [128.84.249.245]) by warf.msc.cornell.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10713; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 07:41:51 -0400 Received: from localhost (mitch@localhost) by khitomer.msc.cornell.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05547; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 07:41:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: khitomer.msc.cornell.edu: mitch owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 07:41:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Mitch Collinsworth To: Justin Stanford Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , Narvi , freebsd-security@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What's going on here is that this guy is creating local newsgroups to distribute these lists into. Unfortunately his news <---> mail gateway is running in both directions, so anything sent to the gateway e-mail address is getting fed back into the list posting address and we're all seeing it. Whether this is acceptable practice is a policy question for the freebsd lists administrator to deal with. In the mean time I would suggest addressing any complaints to the lists admin and to the address in his X-Complaints-To: header, usenet@news.kharkiv.net. -Mitch On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Justin Stanford wrote: > Thanks:) > > I never expected the mail I wrote to freebsd-security-m@kharvi.net to > end up on the list :P > > Regards, > jus > > -- > Justin Stanford > 082 7402741 > jus@security.za.net > www.security.za.net > IT Security and Solutions > > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > > > I have added a mail-filter which I hope should stop this as a temporary > > measure. > > > > Our Postmaster will take over when he comes online. > > > > Poul-Henning > > > > In message , Nar > > vi writes: > > > > > >On 28 Jul 2000, Justin Stanford wrote: > > > > > >> Who are you, and why am I getting damned freebsd-security subscriptions > > >> messages from freebsd.org's majordomo in my mailbox? > > >> > > > > > >Somebody seems to be subscribing several lists to themselves, if i read > > >the messages right. Not just security but hardware aswell... > > > > > >> -- > > >> Justin Stanford > > >> 082 7402741 > > >> jus@security.za.net > > >> www.security.za.net > > >> IT Security and Solutions > > >> > > >> > > >> --- > > >> > > >> > > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message > > > > > > > -- > > Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 > > phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 > > FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe > > Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 4:46: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from durango.picus.com (durango.picus.com [209.100.20.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0394337B56D for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:45:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from troy@picus.com) Received: from abyss [209.100.22.250] by durango.picus.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A1CC55A0150; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 07:43:08 -0400 From: "Troy Settle" To: "Freebsd-Isp@Freebsd. Org" Subject: RE: FTP Servers Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 07:45:51 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I also tried to /usr/ports/ftp/proftp: # cd /usr/ports/ftp/proftpd/ # make ===> proftpd-1.2.0p10 is forbidden: Remote root hole, exploitable anonymously. That's ok though. $50 is well worth it for ncftpd. It's got all the features I need. At my last job, we also used it, and it never let me down. You can check it out at http://www.ncftp.com. -Troy ** -----Original Message----- ** From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG ** [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jonathan Defries ** Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 6:40 AM ** To: Freebsd-Isp@Freebsd. Org ** Subject: RE: FTP Servers ** ** ** pre10 (the current in ports) is forbidden, says: ** ** proftpd-1.2.0p10 is forbidden: Remote root hole, exploitable ** anonymously. ** ** That's on my 4.1-RC, I think there was something more dramatic after ** I updated ports yesterday (4.1-STABLE), but I can't remember and that ** machine is offline right now. ** ** I've found proftpd to be a good performer though. ** ** - Jonathan ** ** > -----Original Message----- ** > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG ** > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Michael O Shea ** > Sent: 27 July 2000 20:49 ** > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org ** > Subject: Re: FTP Servers ** > ** > ** > >Hmmm, I haven't heard about any problems with proftpd. I ** am hoping to go ** > >online with it soon. References so far have encouraged the use ** > of proftpd over ** > >anything else so far... ** > > ** > >Jan ** > Ditto here. Works a charm with SQL authentication also. No system ** > accounts needed. ** > -- ** > ** > ** > Micheal O Shea Email:micheal@com4u.ch ** > com4u.ch http://www.com4u.ch > Breitistrasse 7B PGP key available upon request. > CH-5506 Maegenwil Tel: +41 62 896 46 26 > Switzerland > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 4:55:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.polytechnic.edu.na (mail.polytechnic.edu.na [196.31.225.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4454937B56D for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:55:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tim@polytechnic.edu.na) Received: from ns1.horizon.na ([196.31.225.199] helo=polytechnic.edu.na) by mail.polytechnic.edu.na with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 13IAcK-0006f1-00; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:56:00 -0200 Message-ID: <3981748D.18C6F5AB@polytechnic.edu.na> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:54:53 +0100 From: Tim Priebe Reply-To: tim@iafrica.com.na X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Troy Settle Cc: "Freebsd-Isp@Freebsd. Org" Subject: Re: FTP Servers References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Troy Settle wrote: > > I also tried to /usr/ports/ftp/proftp: > > # cd /usr/ports/ftp/proftpd/ > # make > ===> proftpd-1.2.0p10 is forbidden: Remote root hole, exploitable > anonymously. > > That's ok though. $50 is well worth it for ncftpd. It's got all the > features I need. At my last job, we also used it, and it never let me > down. You can check it out at http://www.ncftp.com. > > -Troy My present experiance with 2 ncftp servers we are mirroring sites from, is that the connections dissapear on a regular basis. This does not happen with any of the other sites we mirror. Tim. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 5:38:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rapier.goldsword.com (rapier.goldsword.com [199.170.202.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A720637BB70 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 05:38:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfarmer@goldsword.com) Received: (from jfarmer@localhost) by rapier.goldsword.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA14940; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:57:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:57:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "John T. Farmer" Message-Id: <200007281357.JAA14940@rapier.goldsword.com> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, pavol_adamec@tempest.sk Subject: Re: strange thing with list subscription Cc: jfarmer@goldsword.com In-Reply-To: <3981589C.9C7B4CFD@tempest.sk> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:55:40 Pavol Adamec said: > A strange thing happened to me right now. I've subscribed > to freebsd-isp few months ago. Right now I've received > subscription confirmation and the list welcome message. The > same thing seems to be going on with freebsd-security. > Am I mad or a dumb? Neither. It looks like something fubared at the list server. Notice the email address listed in the "auth" requested messages. John ---------------------------------------------------------------------- John T. Farmer Owner & CTO GoldSword Systems jfarmer@goldsword.com 865-691-6498 Knoxville TN Internet Services & Servers, Network Design, Consulting To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 6:14:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from Samizdat.uucom.com (samizdat.uucom.com [198.202.217.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 519C937BB89 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 06:14:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cshenton@uucom.com) Received: (from cshenton@localhost) by Samizdat.uucom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01825; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:14:27 -0400 (EDT) To: James Wyatt Cc: Shawn Kelly , mjy@geizhals.at, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Reliable rackmount servers? References: From: Chris Shenton Date: 28 Jul 2000 09:14:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: James Wyatt's message of "Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:36:16 -0500 (CDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 44 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:36:16 -0500 (CDT), James Wyatt said: James> As usual, more recent experience is usually a better than less James> recent. Good point, my compaq-near-death experience :-) was over two years ago. James> Hardware compatability usually gets way better over time and James> onboard stuff for servers frequently leads available Unix James> drivers a little. But Compaq *always* adds "proprietary" hardware to their boxes. Even the mainstream WinDoze vendors software for Compaq lags what's available on other boxes with documented commodity hardware. (by commodity I don't mean "cheap", but well known, like Adaptec, Intel Ether, etc). If the big boyz can't get docs from compaq quickly, then the free software folks will be even more delayed. So, yeah, FreeBSD will (eventually) run on whatever Compaq sells, but time to support the proprietary HW will lag support on non-proprietary boxes. (IMHO you should not have to use some "special" vendor software which only runs on one OS when you want to change your RAM size; that's lame.) James> If you are a 'Compaq shop', take a machine you have there and James> try installing on it. Change the DRAM and add a drive to prove James> you can and try banging on it. Definitely a good idea. If the HW you *have* runs FreeBSD fine, then use it. But be cautious if you buy *new* hardware -- ensure that you can run FreeBSD on it before buying it. James> FBSD will likely easily prove you can get more performance out James> of your hardware. Oh, yeah -- definitely. I'm quite amused to run a couple ISPs on HW which most WinDoze users wouldn't even have on their desktop "because it's too slow". WinBloat. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 6:25:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mout0.freenet.de (mout0.freenet.de [194.97.50.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA74C37C2EF for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 06:25:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netchild@leidinger.net) Received: from [194.97.50.138] (helo=mx0.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13IA94-0003JQ-00; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:25:46 +0200 Received: from a3932.pppool.de ([213.6.57.50] helo=Magelan.Leidinger.net) by mx0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13IA90-0003dm-00; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:25:44 +0200 Received: from Leidinger.net (netchild@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Magelan.Leidinger.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12933; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:25:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from netchild@Leidinger.net) Message-Id: <200007281225.OAA12933@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:25:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Leidinger Subject: Re: Limiting User Actions To: greg@beldamar.com Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <521762720.20000727102915@beldamar.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 27 Jul, Greg S. Wirth wrote: > Curious, do these same ideas apply to FTP users as well? > Speaking of non-anonymous users. > I am very interested in the locking of users in their home > directories, and not allowing viewing of system files. > I have looked at bash -r & chroot, but would like some more > information on either using shells, or other means > at accomplishing this. For the FreeBSD ftpd: man ftpd /ftpchroot Bye, Alexander. -- Speak softly and carry a cellular phone. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net GPG fingerprint = 7423 F3E6 3A7E B334 A9CC B10A 1F5F 130A A638 6E7E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 6:26: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mout0.freenet.de (mout0.freenet.de [194.97.50.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C90F737C261; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 06:25:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netchild@leidinger.net) Received: from [194.97.50.138] (helo=mx0.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13IA98-0003Je-00; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:25:50 +0200 Received: from a3932.pppool.de ([213.6.57.50] helo=Magelan.Leidinger.net) by mx0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13IA96-0003dm-00; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:25:49 +0200 Received: from Leidinger.net (netchild@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Magelan.Leidinger.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00519; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:44:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from netchild@Leidinger.net) Message-Id: <200007281244.OAA00519@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:44:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Leidinger Subject: Re: Japanese language web servers To: danny@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 28 Jul, Daniel O'Callaghan wrote: > > Can anyone tell me if there is anything special to be configured to make > apache serve Japanese language web pages? My guess is no, other than > perhaps some mime type tweaking. This is independant of apache. If you write web pages in japanese, apache delivers them. It depends on the charsed which is used to display the contents, you may want to add the following to your pages: ---snip--- ---snip--- Bye, Alexander. -- http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net GPG fingerprint = 7423 F3E6 3A7E B334 A9CC B10A 1F5F 130A A638 6E7E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 6:57:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from iclub.nsu.ru (iclub.nsu.ru [193.124.222.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7666637C1D3 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 06:57:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Received: from localhost (fjoe@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA20918; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 20:54:28 +0700 (NSS) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 20:54:28 +0700 (NSS) From: Max Khon To: Evren Yurtesen Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: NIS+AMD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, there! On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > Is there anybody using amd with nis maps? > I couldnt make it work with nis but it works fine without it with the same > conf file. we are using it successfully. you need something like this in /etc/amd.conf: --- cut here --- [ /home ] map_name = amd.home map_type = nis --- cut here --- you will also need to change AMDHOST variable in /var/yp/Makefile to point to your master map /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 8: 4:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F32C37C254 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:04:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA84083; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:01:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:01:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Dillon To: Chris Shenton Cc: James Wyatt , Shawn Kelly , mjy@geizhals.at, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Reliable rackmount servers? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 28 Jul 2000, Chris Shenton wrote: > On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:36:16 -0500 (CDT), James Wyatt > said: > > James> As usual, more recent experience is usually a better than less > James> recent. > > Good point, my compaq-near-death experience :-) was over two years > ago. > > > James> Hardware compatability usually gets way better over time and > James> onboard stuff for servers frequently leads available Unix > James> drivers a little. > > But Compaq *always* adds "proprietary" hardware to their boxes. > Even the mainstream WinDoze vendors software for Compaq lags > what's available on other boxes with documented commodity > hardware. (by commodity I don't mean "cheap", but well known, like > Adaptec, Intel Ether, etc). Always? No more than any other server vendor, from what I've seen. I'm using FreeBSD on several Compaq servers new and old without any problems. They're using pretty standard stuff as far as I can tell. Symbios/NCR SCSI controllers, Intel NICs (or Lance stuff on the older ones), etc. Nothing that any other server vendor couldn't choose to put in their servers as well (and many do). Proprietary, after all, means it would be specific to just that vendor. Sure, you probably won't ever get that nifty LCD panel on the front of the box to work if you have one, but who cares? Its presence doesn't prevent the box from working with FreeBSD. > If the big boyz can't get docs from compaq quickly, then the free > software folks will be even more delayed. So, yeah, FreeBSD will > (eventually) run on whatever Compaq sells, but time to support the > proprietary HW will lag support on non-proprietary boxes. It seems that Compaq is just as willing to release programming information for their various pieces of "proprietary" hardware these days as is anybody else. That isn't always saying much, but we do support their RAID controllers, which is about the only piece of "proprietary" hardware I can find on any of their servers, and it is an entirely optional piece of hardware as well. I'm not so sure anybody cares about that LCD panel (which is optional too). :-) > (IMHO you should not have to use some "special" vendor software > which only runs on one OS when you want to change your RAM size; > that's lame.) All you ever needed was either to install the system partition with the utilities there, or use the configuration flopp(y|ies). Using some utility with Windows was _never_ a requirement. -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For Intel x86 and Alpha architectures. ( http://www.freebsd.org ) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 9: 9:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42BF37C34F for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:07:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id SAA16246 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:07:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.0.14]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA80202 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:30:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <013c01bff8a8$c24291c0$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Reply-To: "Leif Neland" From: "Leif Neland" To: Subject: List for unix-apache-Frontpage Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:29:13 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm having some trouble with frontpage and apache. Is there a specific list/newsgroup for that subject somewhere? The current problem is that formmail (webbot) script doesn't work. Besides I have trouble understanding what root and subwebs mean when doing namebased virtual hosts. I'm running this on Redhat, because chilisoft hasn't made a version of asp for FreeBSD yet. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 9:55:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from staff.nyi.net (staff.nyi.net [204.248.157.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EF08237C207 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:55:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from javier@nyi.net) Received: (qmail 53333 invoked by uid 1004); 28 Jul 2000 16:53:43 -0000 Message-ID: <20000728165343.53332.qmail@staff.nyi.net> References: In-Reply-To: From: "javier" To: Michael Barnett Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Password Distribution / Email Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 16:53:43 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Have you thought of migrating off of sendmail? Qmail + VPopmail would be a greta solution. Not only do you get rid of the hasle, and security risks of having so many system accounts, but you get speed an reliability thrown in. www.inter7.com/vpopmail/ As far as scalability... the main maintainer has developed systems with over 50K users per domain, and i have setup the system on isp's with over 2K virtual domains at about 50 accounts per domain. Take a look at it. Michael Barnett writes: > > Everyone, > > We are redesigning our email scheme, and I am looking for an alternative > to pushing passwords around on dozens of machines. Right now, we have 10 > mail machines for mail exchanging/pop access for our domain. (5 for mx .. > 5 for pop .. both setup on a VIP behind a Foundry load balancing switch). > > The 11th machine exports an nfs file system that all 10 machines mount > (deliver and cucipop have been hacked to look in the nfs mounted file > system as opposed to /var/mail) > > It also generates and pushes across the aliases, and creates the > master.passwd file and has each of the 10 individual machines rebuild > their local password file using the command > > /usr/sbin/pwd_mkdb -p -s 15 /etc/master.passwd > > There are currently 24054 entries in the master.passwd file, so this > process is going to be unmanageable very soon. > > We have a few ideas for getting pop to authenticate off of the database, > but even if we do this, we will still have to maintain the password files > for local delivery. Has anyone been successful in running a mail server > that does not contain the authoritative list of users, but gets this > information from some central location? (preferably from an sql > database). > > > Thanks for any insights. > > -Michael Barnett > CAIS Internet > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 11:38: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gifw.genroco.com (genroco.com [205.254.195.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BEF337BC9C for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:37:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from gi2.genroco.com (gi2.genroco.com [192.133.120.3]) by gifw.genroco.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25403; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:37:45 -0500 Received: from scot.genroco.com (scot.genroco.com [192.133.120.125]) by gi2.genroco.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA27666; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:37:05 -0500 Message-ID: <025201bff8c2$ebdf7f60$7d7885c0@genroco.com> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Leif Neland" , References: <013c01bff8a8$c24291c0$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Subject: Re: List for unix-apache-Frontpage Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:37:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: "Leif Neland" > I'm having some trouble with frontpage and apache. > > Is there a specific list/newsgroup for that subject somewhere? > Yes, its at www.rtr.com, look for thier web based bulletin board. > The current problem is that formmail (webbot) script doesn't work. > Besides I have trouble understanding what root and subwebs mean when doing > namebased virtual hosts. > Check your /usr/local/frontpage/version*/frontpage.cnf, it should contain a line similar to: SendMailCommand:/usr/sbin/sendmail %r in order to send form data via email. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 12:31:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC09937B7B2 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:31:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1C0011C7A; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:31:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:31:31 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: Homerton Webmaster Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FTP Servers Message-ID: <20000728153131.B5021@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <000701bff7ec$35ecb0f0$e2f799c3@corpex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <000701bff7ec$35ecb0f0$e2f799c3@corpex.net>; from webmaster@homerton.org.uk on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 06:00:47PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 06:00:47PM +0100, Homerton Webmaster wrote: > What FTP server would people recommend? People have mentioned proftpd but > it seems every version has a root exploit for it. I touched wu a long time > ago, is > that worth using these days? FUD. proftpd is excellent. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 12:41:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from qmail.corpex.net (qmail.corpex.net [195.153.247.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 663E237BC18 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:41:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonathan@corpex.com) Received: (qmail 33493 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2000 19:40:13 -0000 Received: from perseus.corpex.net (HELO perseus) (195.153.247.226) by qmail.corpex.net with SMTP; 28 Jul 2000 19:40:13 -0000 From: "Jonathan Defries" To: "Freebsd-Isp@Freebsd. Org" Subject: RE: Password Distribution / Email Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 20:41:36 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20000728165343.53332.qmail@staff.nyi.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Agreed, I'm running with over 3k virtual domains and a some /etc/passwd ones as well and it works brilliantly. No more R?$$$ stuff either :) (I know you don't have to get your hands dirty in sendmail.cf anymore, but that was a scary experience a few years back! The only thing I am lacking, if anyone can help, is a simple way of parsing the message ID from a message for the qmail-command options. I really don't want to have to spool standard input to a file or memory to do this and there is no variable in the environment to log the message ID. TIA Jonathan > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of javier > Sent: 28 July 2000 17:54 > To: Michael Barnett > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org > Subject: Re: Password Distribution / Email > > > > Have you thought of migrating off of sendmail? > > Qmail + VPopmail would be a greta solution. > > Not only do you get rid of the hasle, and security risks of having > so many system accounts, but you get speed an reliability thrown in. > > www.inter7.com/vpopmail/ > > As far as scalability... the main maintainer has developed systems > with over 50K users per domain, and i have setup the system on isp's > with over 2K virtual domains at about 50 accounts per domain. > > Take a look at it. > > > > Michael Barnett writes: > > > > > Everyone, > > > > We are redesigning our email scheme, and I am looking for an > alternative > > to pushing passwords around on dozens of machines. Right now, > we have 10 > > mail machines for mail exchanging/pop access for our domain. > (5 for mx .. > > 5 for pop .. both setup on a VIP behind a Foundry load > balancing switch). > > > > The 11th machine exports an nfs file system that all 10 machines mount > > (deliver and cucipop have been hacked to look in the nfs mounted file > > system as opposed to /var/mail) > > > > It also generates and pushes across the aliases, and creates the > > master.passwd file and has each of the 10 individual machines rebuild > > their local password file using the command > > > > /usr/sbin/pwd_mkdb -p -s 15 /etc/master.passwd > > > > There are currently 24054 entries in the master.passwd file, so this > > process is going to be unmanageable very soon. > > > > We have a few ideas for getting pop to authenticate off of the > database, > > but even if we do this, we will still have to maintain the > password files > > for local delivery. Has anyone been successful in running a > mail server > > that does not contain the authoritative list of users, but gets this > > information from some central location? (preferably from an sql > > database). > > > > > > Thanks for any insights. > > > > -Michael Barnett > > CAIS Internet > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 18:15:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pcslink.com (pcslink.com [206.43.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21FB37BA66 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:15:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@pcslink.com) Received: from pdkhome (pc08.pdk.pcslink.com [206.250.58.72]) by pcslink.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id SAA27266; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:14:53 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul@pcslink.com) From: "Paul D Kruse" To: "Pavol Adamec" , Subject: RE: strange thing with list subscription Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:12:44 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <3981589C.9C7B4CFD@tempest.sk> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Same here. PDK Paul D Kruse paul@pcslink.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Pavol Adamec Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 2:56 AM To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: strange thing with list subscription A strange thing happened to me right now. I've subscribed to freebsd-isp few months ago. Right now I've received subscription confirmation and the list welcome message. The same thing seems to be going on with freebsd-security. Am I mad or a dumb? Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 21:33:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCAFD37B827 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 21:33:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13INze-0006jK-00; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 21:12:58 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 21:12:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Samplonius To: Michael Barnett Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Password Distribution / Email In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Michael Barnett wrote: > We are redesigning our email scheme, and I am looking for an alternative > to pushing passwords around on dozens of machines. Right now, we have 10 > mail machines for mail exchanging/pop access for our domain. (5 for mx .. > 5 for pop .. both setup on a VIP behind a Foundry load balancing switch). ... > There are currently 24054 entries in the master.passwd file, so this > process is going to be unmanageable very soon. This seems a little weird to me. 10 mail servers for 24,054 users? That seems like a lot of hardware. I've seen single machines handling 30,000 POP mailboxes easily. How many delivered messages do you average a day? Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 21:40:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EAD637BA1F for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 21:40:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA16745; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 22:40:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA25453; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 22:40:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 22:40:20 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200007290440.WAA25453@nomad.yogotech.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Bill Fumerola Cc: Homerton Webmaster , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FTP Servers In-Reply-To: <20000728153131.B5021@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <000701bff7ec$35ecb0f0$e2f799c3@corpex.net> <20000728153131.B5021@jade.chc-chimes.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > What FTP server would people recommend? People have mentioned proftpd but > > it seems every version has a root exploit for it. I touched wu a long time > > ago, is > > that worth using these days? > > FUD. Except for the fact that it's a fact, as has recently been shown. :( > proftpd is excellent. If security isn't important. Currently I know of know full-featured FTP server that has source available and is freeware. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 21:49:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 14F7737B680 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 21:49:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 34385 invoked by uid 1000); 29 Jul 2000 04:49:32 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Jul 2000 04:49:32 -0000 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 00:49:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Nate Williams Cc: Bill Fumerola , FreeBSD-ISP Subject: Re: FTP Servers In-Reply-To: <200007290440.WAA25453@nomad.yogotech.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Nate Williams wrote: ... : > FUD. : : Except for the fact that it's a fact, as has recently been shown. :( Well, that's unfair. That bug hit virtually every ftpd around. I would not hold it against proftpd. I've been using it for quite awhile and I am very happy with their approach to the concept and their implimentation. : > proftpd is excellent. : : If security isn't important. Currently I know of know full-featured FTP : server that has source available and is freeware. That's not fair. A root exploit that hit virtually every ftpd is not grounds to go and say proftpd should only be used "if security isn't important" Think about it for a moment, in my eyes, this bug does not detract at all from proftpd's solid performance. Nobody is perfect. : Nate * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * * GPG fingerprint - A9BC F3A8 278E 22F2 9BDA BFCF 74C3 2D31 C035 5390 * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.2 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5gmJcdMMtMcA1U5ARAisFAJ972QqyaVNyvKw/wxvXaTfUy43cDQCfSw1I BfV5kcCY4UBHWjGTXtEKH/Q= =Og+5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 21:53:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557B937BBA2 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 21:53:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA16800; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 22:53:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA25511; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 22:53:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 22:53:29 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200007290453.WAA25511@nomad.yogotech.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Matt Heckaman Cc: Nate Williams , Bill Fumerola , FreeBSD-ISP Subject: Re: FTP Servers In-Reply-To: References: <200007290440.WAA25453@nomad.yogotech.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > : > FUD. > : > : Except for the fact that it's a fact, as has recently been shown. :( > > Well, that's unfair. That bug hit virtually every ftpd around. I would not > hold it against proftpd. It didn't hit FreeBSD's stock ftpd. > I've been using it for quite awhile and I am very > happy with their approach to the concept and their implimentation. I'm using it as well. But, others who I have great respect that have reviewed their code are not impressed with it. > : > proftpd is excellent. > : > : If security isn't important. Currently I know of know full-featured FTP > : server that has source available and is freeware. > > That's not fair. A root exploit that hit virtually every ftpd is not > grounds to go and say proftpd should only be used "if security isn't > important" I still stick with what I said. And, I still don't know of any full-featured FTP server that is secure. > Think about it for a moment, in my eyes, this bug does not > detract at all from proftpd's solid performance. Nobody is perfect. The same thing could be said about wu-ftpd, which has logged more miles than *any* other freeware ftp server. That it's worked for years doesn't mean it is seucre. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 22:15:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1993937B512 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 22:15:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 34573 invoked by uid 1000); 29 Jul 2000 05:15:22 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Jul 2000 05:15:22 -0000 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 01:15:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Nate Williams Cc: Bill Fumerola , FreeBSD-ISP Subject: Re: FTP Servers In-Reply-To: <200007290453.WAA25511@nomad.yogotech.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Nate Williams wrote: ... : It didn't hit FreeBSD's stock ftpd. This was a fine example of the quality of work that goes into FreeBSD. Hell even OpenBSD was hit by this. Unfortunately, stock FreeBSD ftpd cannot do what I need, as easily as proftpd can. :) : I'm using it as well. But, others who I have great respect that have : reviewed their code are not impressed with it. I'm not really qualified to comment or rebut this, so I'll leave it alone, it's not my place. :) ... : I still stick with what I said. And, I still don't know of any : full-featured FTP server that is secure. Fair enough, I personally, view security in degrees. Nothing is 100% secure, so there's only degrees. In other words, how much risk are you willing to take by running an FTP server? I find the risk of running proftpd nominal compared to some alternatives. I've often wondered to myself, (and I am by NO means an expert), if the nature of FTP will ever allow it to be 100% secure. ... : The same thing could be said about wu-ftpd, which has logged more miles : than *any* other freeware ftp server. That it's worked for years : doesn't mean it is seucre. To my knowledge, though I do not have statistics, wuftpd has a long string of root level compromises in it's history though. The fact that *this* bug remained hidden, is well, disturbing. I'm more willing to give something like proftpd a break because it does not have a long history of known bugs. This by no means makes it "more" secure than wuftpd or the like, it just means I feel more comfortable running it, as opposed to something that has had a string of known bugs in the past. I almost wonder if that's the best we can hope for in the realistic world right now. Security is something to strive for, but something that can never be totally achieved. Note that all my opinions are just from my day to day dealings with these thoughts. I speak with no authority, and am not an expert in anything, take my words for what they are; opinion. :) : Nate * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * * GPG fingerprint - A9BC F3A8 278E 22F2 9BDA BFCF 74C3 2D31 C035 5390 * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.2 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5gmhqdMMtMcA1U5ARAtKfAJ0UyIeqF0wyFhbyKYLlzVw0R20HtgCfXbGs Dltde77ibC6wk7ltZrk5Ngs= =OArM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 23:13:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1114437BA5A for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 23:13:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1A4931C6B; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 02:13:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 02:13:35 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: Nate Williams Cc: Homerton Webmaster , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FTP Servers Message-ID: <20000729021335.I5021@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <000701bff7ec$35ecb0f0$e2f799c3@corpex.net> <20000728153131.B5021@jade.chc-chimes.com> <200007290440.WAA25453@nomad.yogotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200007290440.WAA25453@nomad.yogotech.com>; from nate@yogotech.com on Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 10:40:20PM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 10:40:20PM -0600, Nate Williams wrote: > > FUD. > > Except for the fact that it's a fact, as has recently been shown. :( ... and proven to be a false alarm. I'd post a URL to the author's response but securityfocus.com's mailing list searches seem to work just about as well as www.freebsd.org's. > > proftpd is excellent. > > If security isn't important. Currently I know of know full-featured FTP > server that has source available and is freeware. The recent post to bugtraq was proven down by the proftpd author. Full featured is in the eye of the beholder, I've never seen a freeware server that has as many features (and easy configuration) as proftpd. If we're going to be wiseasses, I wouldn't reccomend FreeBSD or any other operating system ever, because once they had security holes. I'd worry more about active maintainership then about how many "security labs" have found that when you pass 1400 AAAAs to a arguement the server crashes. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 28 23:16: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4E637BB40 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 23:16:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6244D1C6B; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 02:16:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 02:16:03 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: Nate Williams Cc: Matt Heckaman , FreeBSD-ISP Subject: Re: FTP Servers Message-ID: <20000729021603.J5021@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <200007290440.WAA25453@nomad.yogotech.com> <200007290453.WAA25511@nomad.yogotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200007290453.WAA25511@nomad.yogotech.com>; from nate@yogotech.com on Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 10:53:29PM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 10:53:29PM -0600, Nate Williams wrote: > > Well, that's unfair. That bug hit virtually every ftpd around. I would not > > hold it against proftpd. > > It didn't hit FreeBSD's stock ftpd. FreeBSD's stock ftpd doesn't do anything near as much as proftpd. > > Think about it for a moment, in my eyes, this bug does not > > detract at all from proftpd's solid performance. Nobody is perfect. > > The same thing could be said about wu-ftpd, which has logged more miles > than *any* other freeware ftp server. That it's worked for years > doesn't mean it is seucre. That it's worked for years is a miracle of modern computing. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 29 5:28: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.usls.edu (atlas.usls.edu [202.47.133.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1E237B6BE for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 05:27:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from francis@usls.edu) Received: by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2E7299B0A; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:27:45 +0800 (PHT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229945D07; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:27:45 +0800 (PHT) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:27:45 +0800 (PHT) From: "Francis A. Vidal" To: "Greg S. Wirth" Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Limiting User Actions In-Reply-To: <521762720.20000727102915@beldamar.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ---- Quoting Greg S. Wirth's message, sent 07/27/00 10:29am ---- > Curious, do these same ideas apply to FTP users as well? Speaking > of non-anonymous users. I am very interested in the locking of > users in their home directories, and not allowing viewing of > system files. I have looked at bash -r & chroot, but would like > some more information on either using shells, or other means at > accomplishing this. Speaking of FTP, you can modify the stock FTP that came with the source to chroot your users to their home directories. Just re-compile `ftpd' with the -DFTPD_INTERNAL_LS option and install it. Consult the man pages for constructing /etc/ftpchroot =) -- francis vidal university of st. la salle, bacolod city, philippines . . . . . . . PGP key available via e-mail / subject: get PGP key u s l s N E T tel nos. (+63.34).433.3526 / fax (+63.34).434.0415 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 29 8:19:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E062837B6BC for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 08:19:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwyatt@rwsystems.net) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (1434 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:14:33 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #1 built 1999-Aug-7) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:14:33 -0500 (CDT) From: James Wyatt To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FTP Servers In-Reply-To: <20000728153131.B5021@jade.chc-chimes.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 06:00:47PM +0100, Homerton Webmaster wrote: > > What FTP server would people recommend? People have mentioned proftpd but > > it seems every version has a root exploit for it. I touched wu a long time > > ago, is > > that worth using these days? > > FUD. proftpd is excellent. Fud, foo... Both proftpd and wuftpd (and several others like WARFTPd) have had critical security holes that have been found with annoyingly entrehched versions. Both are excellent and offer *many* features and have ongoing development, thus new bugs once in a while. The stock FBSD FTP server is better than most stock ones and allows chrooted users, which is what drives many folks to pro/wu/war-ftpd. We use wuftpd on the AIX machines and it works well. If you use any of them, watch the security advisories, delay using new features, join the support mailing list and keep aware. - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 29 8:29:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19AF237B977 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 08:29:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwyatt@rwsystems.net) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (1041 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:21:32 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #1 built 1999-Aug-7) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:21:32 -0500 (CDT) From: James Wyatt To: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Limiting User Actions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Francis A. Vidal wrote: > Speaking of FTP, you can modify the stock FTP that came with the > source to chroot your users to their home directories. Just re-compile > `ftpd' with the -DFTPD_INTERNAL_LS option and install it. Consult the > man pages for constructing /etc/ftpchroot =) Maybe this is a good time to ask: Why *isn't* it compiled that way by default? Is there *any* benefit to allowing it except maybe that all UIDs 'resolve' if not limited by the chrooted /etc/passwd? - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 29 8:42:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from piranha.amis.net (piranha.amis.net [212.18.32.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9B737B967 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 08:42:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blaz@amis.net) Received: from titanic.medinet.si (titanic.medinet.si [212.18.32.66]) by piranha.amis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328635D08; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:42:26 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:42:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Blaz Zupan X-Sender: blaz@titanic.medinet.si To: James Wyatt Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Limiting User Actions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, James Wyatt wrote: > > `ftpd' with the -DFTPD_INTERNAL_LS option and install it. Consult the > Maybe this is a good time to ask: Why *isn't* it compiled that way by > default? Is there *any* benefit to allowing it except maybe that all UIDs > 'resolve' if not limited by the chrooted /etc/passwd? - Jy@ Actually it is, on FreeBSD 4.0 and up. Blaz Zupan, Medinet d.o.o, Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia E-mail: blaz@amis.net, Tel: +386-2-320-6320, Fax: +386-2-320-6325 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 29 11:34:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wanlogistics.net (mail.wanlogistics.net [63.209.114.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5564F37B6D6 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 11:33:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@mail.wanlogistics.net) Received: (from bill@localhost) by mail.wanlogistics.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA94370 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 14:33:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bill) Message-Id: <200007291833.OAA94370@mail.wanlogistics.net> Subject: Marketing question To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 14:33:42 -0400 (EDT) From: bv@wjv.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Reply to: bv@wjv.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After what seemed an interminable wait we finally have our racks coming up in the Orlando Level-3 facility. Our target is dedicated hosting - but not in the low-end area. Once you get known - eg Exodus and the like - people can come to you - but does anyone have any effective marketing ideas they'd care to share to get the word out at first. When I say 'low-end' about I'm talking about those who advertise dedicated machines at $299/month. Our thought is offering guarnteed 1.5Mbs service on a machine that is entirely for the use of the client, with 256MB/ECC 100Mb/ethernet cards and mid-sized Hd for about $850. That means there are no suprises on bandwidth charges, etc. Currently we get 100Mbit burstable into their switch and can move to gigabit when we cross the 50Mbit threshold for 95%. By that time their OC48 should be at OC-192. Considering the complaints we had heard about some of the co-location facilities on a local-are basis - eg non-responsive customer service - machines down long than they should be - we felt there would be people who would pay for commerical/industrial type hosting. Or do you think we are off-base on that - eg paying for quality. We're running FreeBSD on machines we set up - though one client has a dual-Sparc Sun running a database backend to Apple G4 front end [WebObject]. I'm open to all suggestions. Bill Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message