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On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Brian Somers wrote:

> > On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 01:02:35 +0100, Brian Somers wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 10:24:52 +0300, Ivan Khilko wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 	I read the archive of this mail-list. I see mail about problem on
> > > > > SCSI disk.
> > > > > 	I have same problem with my disk
> > > > > 
> > > > > da0: <QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM2110S 300X> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
> > > > > da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled
> > > > > da0: 2014MB (4124736 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 256C)
> > > > > 
> > > > > kernel say
> > > > >  (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0xc - timed out in datain phase, SEQADDR == 0x110
> > > > >  (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): BDR message in message buffer
> > > > >  (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): no longer in timeout, status = 353
> > > > >  Unexpected busfree.  LASTPHASE == 0xa0
> > > > >  SEQADDR == 0x153
> > > > > 
> > > > > and any disk operation disabled :(
> > > > > 
> > > > > What you may tell about it?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I've been seeing this recently too.  In fact, with a kernel built 
> > > with the latest (1.48) aic7xxx.c, The first resets never seem to 
> > > happen and the machine just hangs...
> > 
> > > I've now reverted to a kernel from last night and can get a login 
> > > again.... (albeit with lots of resets).  I'm going to drop back to 
> > > 20000726 and see if that makes things sane again (I recently opened 
> > > the machine - around the same time that the problems began, so 
> > > there's a marginal chance that I damaged/moved the cabling or 
> > > something....)
   On this machine ~2 year work FreeBSD 2.2.8 without any errors.
Same month ago I mast quickly install on it FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE (I not
have any other system on that time). From this moment problem exist.
In 1-2 week system have this problem, and I mast it reboot...

> > I'm sure Justin will want to hear about it if going back to an older kernel
> > fixes your problem.
> 
> Well, first let me apologise.  My hang was due to kern/uipc_socket2.c 
> 1.63 (now fixed).  Nothing to do with the scsi code.

   What I mast fix? I am novice user FreeBSD. What I mast read for to do
it?

Ivan.
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> On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Brian Somers wrote:
> 
> > > On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 01:02:35 +0100, Brian Somers wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 10:24:52 +0300, Ivan Khilko wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 	I read the archive of this mail-list. I see mail about problem on
> > > > > > SCSI disk.
> > > > > > 	I have same problem with my disk
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > da0: <QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM2110S 300X> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
> > > > > > da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled
> > > > > > da0: 2014MB (4124736 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 256C)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > kernel say
> > > > > >  (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0xc - timed out in datain phase, SEQADDR == 0x110
> > > > > >  (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): BDR message in message buffer
> > > > > >  (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): no longer in timeout, status = 353
> > > > > >  Unexpected busfree.  LASTPHASE == 0xa0
> > > > > >  SEQADDR == 0x153
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > and any disk operation disabled :(
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > What you may tell about it?
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I've been seeing this recently too.  In fact, with a kernel built 
> > > > with the latest (1.48) aic7xxx.c, The first resets never seem to 
> > > > happen and the machine just hangs...
> > > 
> > > > I've now reverted to a kernel from last night and can get a login 
> > > > again.... (albeit with lots of resets).  I'm going to drop back to 
> > > > 20000726 and see if that makes things sane again (I recently opened 
> > > > the machine - around the same time that the problems began, so 
> > > > there's a marginal chance that I damaged/moved the cabling or 
> > > > something....)
>    On this machine ~2 year work FreeBSD 2.2.8 without any errors.
> Same month ago I mast quickly install on it FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE (I not
> have any other system on that time). From this moment problem exist.
> In 1-2 week system have this problem, and I mast it reboot...
> 
> > > I'm sure Justin will want to hear about it if going back to an older kernel
> > > fixes your problem.
> > 
> > Well, first let me apologise.  My hang was due to kern/uipc_socket2.c 
> > 1.63 (now fixed).  Nothing to do with the scsi code.
> 
>    What I mast fix? I am novice user FreeBSD. What I mast read for to do
> it?

This only applies to you if you were running FreeBSD-current - not 
something a novice user should be doing.  Version 1.63 of 
uipc_socket2.c had a problem that caused the machine to hang.

> Ivan.
> e-mail:ivan@ins.dn.ua

-- 
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We're keen about building a Cold Fusion or Dreamweaver Ultradev
compatible FreeBSD box. Customers are using our NT solutions, but they
suck. Not the customers, the boxes. They are expensive and we're
always awaiting the next release of some part of the product to fix
one problem or another.

My understanding is that we just need ODBC and MySQL to support
Dreamweaver/Ultradev, but Macromedia doesn't list any FreeBSD system
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had compatibility with Cold Fusion or Ultradev type products.

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Jahanur,

 It's very easy to access the MySQL database from Apache using the PHP
scripting language. However, there isn't currently, any Web
development tool which approaches Dreamweaver Ultradev or Cold Fusion
(or Adobe's stuff) ease of use and web application development. Seems
to me a gap which needs filling, but I'm not sure. Perhaps I've
overlooked a tool. 

 The key for us is creating a website, where the 'assets' of the
website, i.e., images, text, organization of pages is part of a
database. End users ask us for a Web interface to update the pages,
modifying images, text or other components of their site.

 We do use PHP and MySQL to create dynamic websites. Linux I found out
tonight, has an interface to Cold Fusion. I'm continuing the research.

 Cheers,

 -Alex


Jahanur R Subedar wrote:
> 
> I had one customer who has built his site with cold fusion. But laiter I
> found out that Cold Fusion server is needed and the price for that is
> $4000.00. So I gave up becasue there was only one customer who wants cold
> fusion. And spending $4000.00 for one customer is not worthed.
> Please let me know if there is any other way arrounf $4000.00 to make the
> cgis run and access the Mysql.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jahanur
> 
> On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Alex wrote:
> 
> >
> > We're keen about building a Cold Fusion or Dreamweaver Ultradev
> > compatible FreeBSD box. Customers are using our NT solutions, but they
> > suck. Not the customers, the boxes. They are expensive and we're
> > always awaiting the next release of some part of the product to fix
> > one problem or another.
> >
> > My understanding is that we just need ODBC and MySQL to support
> > Dreamweaver/Ultradev, but Macromedia doesn't list any FreeBSD system
> > as compatible with their tools. We'd make alot of people happy if we
> > had compatibility with Cold Fusion or Ultradev type products.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >  -Alex
> 
> Jahanur R Subedar
> WWW.JJSOFT.COM
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From owner-freebsd-isp  Sun Sep  3 21:52: 2 2000
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Check out the FAQ at www.php.net   there is a link to a nice little white
paper on the PHP vs. Cold Fusion debate.It is very objective,  and very
well written.
 Basically, it states CF is too slow and resource intensive,  when php can
do the exact same things with almost no overhead.  It did go on to say CF
is easier to use,  but your web server has to be beefier for the same
performance.

Just my 2 cents.


Jeff



On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Alex wrote:

> Jahanur,
> 
>  It's very easy to access the MySQL database from Apache using the PHP
> scripting language. However, there isn't currently, any Web
> development tool which approaches Dreamweaver Ultradev or Cold Fusion
> (or Adobe's stuff) ease of use and web application development. Seems
> to me a gap which needs filling, but I'm not sure. Perhaps I've
> overlooked a tool. 
> 
>  The key for us is creating a website, where the 'assets' of the
> website, i.e., images, text, organization of pages is part of a
> database. End users ask us for a Web interface to update the pages,
> modifying images, text or other components of their site.
> 
>  We do use PHP and MySQL to create dynamic websites. Linux I found out
> tonight, has an interface to Cold Fusion. I'm continuing the research.
> 
>  Cheers,
> 
>  -Alex
> 
> 
> Jahanur R Subedar wrote:
> > 
> > I had one customer who has built his site with cold fusion. But laiter I
> > found out that Cold Fusion server is needed and the price for that is
> > $4000.00. So I gave up becasue there was only one customer who wants cold
> > fusion. And spending $4000.00 for one customer is not worthed.
> > Please let me know if there is any other way arrounf $4000.00 to make the
> > cgis run and access the Mysql.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Jahanur
> > 
> > On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Alex wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > We're keen about building a Cold Fusion or Dreamweaver Ultradev
> > > compatible FreeBSD box. Customers are using our NT solutions, but they
> > > suck. Not the customers, the boxes. They are expensive and we're
> > > always awaiting the next release of some part of the product to fix
> > > one problem or another.
> > >
> > > My understanding is that we just need ODBC and MySQL to support
> > > Dreamweaver/Ultradev, but Macromedia doesn't list any FreeBSD system
> > > as compatible with their tools. We'd make alot of people happy if we
> > > had compatibility with Cold Fusion or Ultradev type products.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >  -Alex
> > 
> > Jahanur R Subedar
> > WWW.JJSOFT.COM



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>Linux I found out tonight, has an interface to Cold Fusion.

When I asked months ago, when CF/Linux was in early beta (last autumn 
already?), Allaire had no interest in porting CF to FreeBSD.

If that's unchanged, then a very interesting project would be CF on 
FreeBSD's Linux compatibility and Allaire's Jrun on FreeBSD and with 
postgres as the database, since MySQL is too SQL-poor for the types 
of complex applications that CF apps typically attack.

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Picking up on Alex's point.

We use php4 (+ modssl etc) on FreeBSD 3.4.
What I think is needed is "pressure" on the producers of shrink wrapped
software (Macromedia et al) to remind them that more people use Apache on
xxnix  than are ever likely to use IIS on NT. Even Frontpage has been
adapted to work on a decent os (although we have decided only to support it
on NT).

Just my 2 pence worth

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Subject: Re: Cold fusion / FreeBSD / Apache / PHP /MySQL

> > > We're keen about building a Cold Fusion or Dreamweaver Ultradev
> > > compatible FreeBSD box. Customers are using our NT solutions, but they
> > > suck. Not the customers, the boxes. They are expensive and we're
> > > always awaiting the next release of some part of the product to fix
> > > one problem or another.
> > >
> > > My understanding is that we just need ODBC and MySQL to support
> > > Dreamweaver/Ultradev, but Macromedia doesn't list any FreeBSD system
> > > as compatible with their tools. We'd make alot of people happy if we
> > > had compatibility with Cold Fusion or Ultradev type products.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >  -Alex
> >
> > Jahanur R Subedar
> > WWW.JJSOFT.COM



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Not really in the venue of motherboard measurement, there is a nifty little
unit you can run a dozen or so digital thermometers off of a serial port and
stick them all over your machine room:

http://www.spiderplant.com/hlt/index.html

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> Can someone please reccomend a heat sensory measuring utility? I need one
> for my machine so it doesn't spark and catch on fire, like my other one
> did. -- Jonathan M. Slivko
>
> P.S. It's not funny!
>
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Yep, cool little toy.  I stick sensors at the case fan exhaust on PC's.  Not
as good as measuring right on the motherboard, but it gives you some idea of
what's going on.

Jim


> Not really in the venue of motherboard measurement, there is a nifty
little
> unit you can run a dozen or so digital thermometers off of a serial port
and
> stick them all over your machine room:
>
> http://www.spiderplant.com/hlt/index.html
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: "FreeBSD ISP Mailing List" <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 2:54 PM
> Subject: Accurate Heat Sensoring Program
>
>
> > Can someone please reccomend a heat sensory measuring utility? I need
one
> > for my machine so it doesn't spark and catch on fire, like my other one
> > did. -- Jonathan M. Slivko
> >
> > P.S. It's not funny!
> >
> > ----
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I'm currently working with another small ISP, trying to convert much of
his operation from NT-based to FreeBSD. He would like to move away from
the proprietary email solution he has, but there's a sticking point - he
offers, as a distinguishing service, email virus scanning for all user
email. He's using Trend's ServerSafe (I belive that's the name). In
looking for a solution with FreeBSD I quickly found that most all
anti-virus vendors don't seem to understand what sort of a beast an ISP is
for their licensing purposes ("seats"? we don' got no stinkin' seats!).
Also, none of the commercial solutions seem very well suited to actually
integrate with an MTA.

My question is: how many of you virus-scan your customer's email, and what
do you use to do it?

TIA.

-Dave



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From owner-freebsd-isp  Mon Sep  4 12:24: 2 2000
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> My question is: how many of you virus-scan your customer's email, and what
> do you use to do it?

well, I am using sophos anti-virus (for linux - runs under linux emulator -
www.sophos.com) and amavis (www.amavis.org) as the mail wrapper to postfix.
Working great without any problem =)

PS: There is small problem with postfix + amavis combo. The warning message
(if a virus was found)  is not delivered to the sender or intended recipient.
Amavis just send a notification to mail admin. Not a big problem for me, but
might or might not be a problem for you. I heard this 'bug' doesn't exist in
sendmail + amavis combo. Don't know about qmail (try scan4virus -
http://www.geocities.com/jhaar/scan4virus/).

Hope this help,

Hartoyo




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From owner-freebsd-isp  Mon Sep  4 12:25:27 2000
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I currently use  AMaViS to integrate sophos antivirus with sendmail. on
FreeBSD.  check them out, I'm sure you'll be satisfied.


Jeff Palmer
jeff@isni.net


On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, David Babler wrote:

> 
> I'm currently working with another small ISP, trying to convert much of
> his operation from NT-based to FreeBSD. He would like to move away from
> the proprietary email solution he has, but there's a sticking point - he
> offers, as a distinguishing service, email virus scanning for all user
> email. He's using Trend's ServerSafe (I belive that's the name). In
> looking for a solution with FreeBSD I quickly found that most all
> anti-virus vendors don't seem to understand what sort of a beast an ISP is
> for their licensing purposes ("seats"? we don' got no stinkin' seats!).
> Also, none of the commercial solutions seem very well suited to actually
> integrate with an MTA.
> 
> My question is: how many of you virus-scan your customer's email, and what
> do you use to do it?
> 
> TIA.
> 
> -Dave
> 
> 
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If I have two T1s from independent providers with two different blocks
of IPS, two 3c905-TX cards, two different IPs

For redundancy reasons, what's the best way to go abouts this?

Have each card run seperate IPs (one from each T1) what discerns between
the two so it knows which routes (besides routing tables) to use?

Anyone have a similiar solution?

We have two T1s - one for client bandwidth - one for servers
(dedicated) which I want to combine just in case everything goes down.

How does DNS then go? Dual A records?

Thanks.




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Best bet, would be to run BGP with both providers.  If this is not an
option, ask each to advertise the block of IPs from the other.

You do NOT want to go and assign 2 IPs to each server you have, the reason
for this, is that with 2 IPs, you'll end up with a round-robin DNS.  If one
T1 is down, then 1/2 the people trying to reach a server on your network
will fail.

BGP isn't too difficult to set up, and contrary to popular belief, you can
still do this on older/smaller hardware.  Just do the announcements, don't
worry about taking full tables from either provider.  You can get away with
simply setting 2 default routes and letting your router bounce the outbound
traffic between the 2 lines.

--
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Subject: question about Dual NICs


If I have two T1s from independent providers with two different blocks
of IPS, two 3c905-TX cards, two different IPs

For redundancy reasons, what's the best way to go abouts this?

Have each card run seperate IPs (one from each T1) what discerns between
the two so it knows which routes (besides routing tables) to use?

Anyone have a similiar solution?

We have two T1s - one for client bandwidth - one for servers
(dedicated) which I want to combine just in case everything goes down.

How does DNS then go? Dual A records?

Thanks.




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From owner-freebsd-isp  Mon Sep  4 20: 1:14 2000
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> If I have two T1s from independent providers with two different blocks
> of IPS, two 3c905-TX cards, two different IPs
> 
> For redundancy reasons, what's the best way to go abouts this?
> 
> Have each card run seperate IPs (one from each T1) what discerns between
> the two so it knows which routes (besides routing tables) to use?

Won't work.  You need source-based routing to make it work, and FreeBSD
doesn't support it without some patches which I've not seen in a few
years.  It especially won't work if your providers are each properly
filtering their traffic, which would prevent it from working even in
the normal-OK case.

> Anyone have a similiar solution?
> 
> We have two T1s - one for client bandwidth - one for servers
> (dedicated) which I want to combine just in case everything goes down.

Why distinguish?  It's silly.

Easiest solution is to have each provider announce one single IP block
for you.  If either link fails, the other still gives you IP connectivity
for the block.

More complex solution is to speak BGP to each provider.  This has few
advantages that I can think of in your situation, and may be more difficult
for you to set up.  However, when you lose a link, in theory the associated
provider will no longer appear as a route to your site.  You don't _need_
BGP for that, but unless you have two clueful providers, it's the only way
it's likely to work reliably.

In the latter case, get a reasonable PC (128MB RAM, P233 or faster) to
act as your BGP speaker, and take full routes.  You will be able to do
cooler load balancing that way.  You don't have to, but it gives you
some additional flexibility if you're going to go to the trouble of BGP
anyways.
-- 
... Joe

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This isn't really a FreeBSD question, unless there is hardware to do
this in the FreeBSD OS.

Here's what I want to do. I have several T1 circuits currently
handling IP traffic from another rural location. I'm thinking of
centralizing my modem pools in one location and sending the dialup
calls to the central location. Any thought on how to do this? Seems in
the incoming circuits in the rural location would need to be
'repeated' over the long haul T1 to our central location.

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Among others:  Adtran Atlas.

There are other, more sneaky ways to do this.   Feel free to drop me a
note privately with more details, unless you want to cc the list.

Cost effectivness suggests you would want to get the data out of the
"analog modem" realm and into a packet form as near the customer as
possible.

(1 T1 voice=24 modems)  (1 T1 IP = hundreds of modems)

On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Alex wrote:

> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 21:58:46 -0600
> From: Alex <alex@aspenworks.com>
> To: free <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Subject: Dialin T1 forwarded to a new location
> 
> 
> 
> This isn't really a FreeBSD question, unless there is hardware to do
> this in the FreeBSD OS.
> 
> Here's what I want to do. I have several T1 circuits currently
> handling IP traffic from another rural location. I'm thinking of
> centralizing my modem pools in one location and sending the dialup
> calls to the central location. Any thought on how to do this? Seems in
> the incoming circuits in the rural location would need to be
> 'repeated' over the long haul T1 to our central location.
> 
>  -Alex

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Andrew Ryder wrote:

> If I have two T1s from independent providers with two different blocks
> of IPS, two 3c905-TX cards, two different IPs
>
> For redundancy reasons, what's the best way to go abouts this?
>
> Have each card run seperate IPs (one from each T1) what discerns between
> the two so it knows which routes (besides routing tables) to use?
>
> Anyone have a similiar solution?

I have never tried this but at Cisco this is called Load Balancing.
To do this on a FreeBSD box have a look at http://www.zebra.org/
Free routing software.

>
>
> We have two T1s - one for client bandwidth - one for servers
> (dedicated) which I want to combine just in case everything goes down.
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> How does DNS then go? Dual A records?
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Hi,

I posted this to freebsd-questions and had no feedback. Is anyone here able
to help.

Thanks 

Rob.



>Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 22:41:35 +1000
>To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>From: Rob Secombe <robseco@teksupport.net.au>
>Subject: Wierd tape drive behaviour
>
>Hi all,
>
>I am not on the freebsd-questions list so could you please reply direct.
>
>I have recently built a 'samba server' based on FreeBSD 4.0 for one of our
customers. All is working perfectly except for the backup. The customer had
an Wangdat 3100 in their old Novell server which they asked if we could
use. As that amount of data they had to back up would easily fit and the
tape drive was working fine with Novell/Arcserve, I said "sure". I spoke
too soon. The tape subsystem intermitently works but the majority of the
time it reports ther following error.
>
>/usr/bin/tar: can't write to /dev/rsa0 : Invalid argument
>
>and syslogs:
>
>(sa0:sym0:0:6:0): Invalid request.  Variable block device requests must be
between 53257 and -1 bytes
>
>The upper and lower blocksize values seem to vary. I have tried new tapes
and doing an 'mt erase' to no avail.
>
>device info is:
>
>sa0 at sym0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0
>sa0: <WangDAT Model 3100 03.0> Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device
>sa0: 4.807MB/s transfers (4.807MHz, offset 8)
>
>I have had a trawl through the archives and can find serveral other
related questions but no definitive answers. Does anyone have a fix for
this or do I just co-incidentally have a sick drive.
>
>See you at FreeBSDcon!
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>


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This is possible, but you'll be paying milage on those lines.

One way, is to use an add/drop CSU to bridge the CT1/PRI to your long
haul, but this still requires you to have equipment in the remote
location.  You're also going to pay more for each of those PtP T1s than
you would for the other option, which would be to get FX lines from your
telco.  This completely removes the need to maintain equipment at a
remote location, but you'll be paying milage on those circuts.

In the past, I've used FX lines for the first couple of PRI.  But in my
location, the milage on 3 lines is more than enough to pay for a PtP T1
and a remote facility.

To give an example, to serve a town about 20 miles away, I'm paying
about $300/month extra for the FX.  A PtP T1 is something along the
lines of $450/month.  At 2 PRI, it's $600.  At 3, it's $900, which is
enough to cover the PtP T1 and rent for a building.  Better yet, I try
to find some company or organization that is willing to trade a closet
for bandwidth.  A single T1 for data should be able to support 8-10 PRI
without issue.  For me, that's a savings of about $2500/month.


--
  Troy Settle
  Pulaski Networks
  540.994.4254


** -----Original Message-----
** From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
** [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Alex
** Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 11:59 PM
** To: free
** Subject: Dialin T1 forwarded to a new location
**
**
**
**
** This isn't really a FreeBSD question, unless there is hardware to do
** this in the FreeBSD OS.
**
** Here's what I want to do. I have several T1 circuits currently
** handling IP traffic from another rural location. I'm thinking of
** centralizing my modem pools in one location and sending the dialup
** calls to the central location. Any thought on how to do
** this? Seems in
** the incoming circuits in the rural location would need to be
** 'repeated' over the long haul T1 to our central location.
**
**  -Alex



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Hi Colin,

It would fail just doing a 'tar cv /etc'. The weird thing was that it would
intermittently work. I have never had this problem with previous versions of
FreeBSD, it must be a new 'feature' in 4.0. I just tried the -b 128 option
and it did work so I have included it in the backup script and will watch it
over the next couple of days.

Thanks

Rob.

-----Original Message-----
From: Colin Campbell [mailto:sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 6 September 2000 8:37
To: Rob Secombe
Subject: Re: Wierd tape drive behaviour


Hi,

My first guess is that you need to write blocks > 53527 bytes to the tape
drive. Without seeing your "tar" command I can only guess that you need to
add something like "-b 128" to the command.

Colin


On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Rob Secombe wrote:

> >
> >I have recently built a 'samba server' based on FreeBSD 4.0 for one of
our
> customers. All is working perfectly except for the backup. The customer
had
> an Wangdat 3100 in their old Novell server which they asked if we could
> use. As that amount of data they had to back up would easily fit and the
> tape drive was working fine with Novell/Arcserve, I said "sure". I spoke
> too soon. The tape subsystem intermitently works but the majority of the
> time it reports ther following error.
> >
> >/usr/bin/tar: can't write to /dev/rsa0 : Invalid argument
> >
> >and syslogs:
> >
> >(sa0:sym0:0:6:0): Invalid request.  Variable block device requests must
be
> between 53257 and -1 bytes
kk




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Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,

I am writing about equal cost multi path routing for FreeBSD 4-STABLE
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	Exist there any extension of standart quota's commands which
allows to set-up the same quotas for many users at once (not only the
group of users, but based on a range of UIDs and which would be allow to 
work in a command-line mode, and now only througth an external editor?

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edquota will do this with the -p option.

see man edquota.

ala:

  edquota -p prototypeusername -p 1001-1323

You set up prototypeusername with the appropriate quotas, and then run the
program.

There is also another tool in ports but the name escapes me.

On 6 Sep 2000, Wolodymyr Protsaylo wrote:

> Date: 6 Sep 2000 14:09:00 +0300
> From: Wolodymyr Protsaylo <pwr@lta.link.lviv.ua>
> Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Disk Quota manager
> 
> 	Exist there any extension of standart quota's commands which
> allows to set-up the same quotas for many users at once (not only the
> group of users, but based on a range of UIDs and which would be allow to 
> work in a command-line mode, and now only througth an external editor?
> 
> Wolodymyr Protsaylo                         email:      <pwr@lta.lviv.ua>
> System Administrator                    phone/fax:      +380 (322) 769545
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Hi,

On 6 Sep 2000, Wolodymyr Protsaylo wrote:
> 	Exist there any extension of standart quota's commands which
> allows to set-up the same quotas for many users at once (not only the
> group of users, but based on a range of UIDs and which would be allow to 
> work in a command-line mode, and now only througth an external editor?

we use the Quota module from CPAN to set quotas for web and homepage users
from perl scripts

	use Quota;
	Quota::setqlim($quota_dev, $uid, $block_soft, $block_hard, $inode_soft, $inode_hard);

Greetings
Christian Kratzer
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	Does there exist any solution, which allows to keep a Mailboxes in
a compressed form in order to occupy less space on disk. Which will allow
to be transperent in writing and reading by mail dileviry agents and mail
clients?

Wolodymyr Protsaylo                         email:      <pwr@lta.lviv.ua>
System Administrator                    phone/fax:      +380 (322) 769545
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Hello,

I need to make a terminal server out of a FreeBSD box.  I am
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BSD world.

I know the userland ppp can do it, almost.  Unfortunately it
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From: "Wolodymyr Protsaylo" <pwr@lta.link.lviv.ua>
> Does there exist any solution, which allows to keep a Mailboxes in
> a compressed form in order to occupy less space on disk. Which will allow
> to be transperent in writing and reading by mail dileviry agents and mail
> clients?
>
There is a patch by Dustin Sallings <dustin@spy.net> that adds zlib
compression of the Cyrus mail store (v1.5.x).

The way this patch works is that the messages are initially stored
uncompressed.  A cron job is run at least once a day to compress the
messages.  The imapd/popd are then modified to allow them to decompress the
messages, before sending them to the mail client.

I have updated this patch for 1.6.20 and 2.0.x.

You would then need mail clients that can work with IMAP servers (pine,
Netscape, mutt(?)), as the messages would not be accessible to regular Unix
mail clients (elm, mail, mh, ...) unless they have been patched (elm w/IMAP
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On 6 Sep 2000, Wolodymyr Protsaylo wrote:
> 	Exist there any extension of standart quota's commands which
> allows to set-up the same quotas for many users at once (not only the
> group of users, but based on a range of UIDs and which would be allow
> to work in a command-line mode, and now only througth an external
> editor?

/usr/ports/sysutils/setquota

(Not to toot my own horn.)

If you send me to code to accept a range of UIDs I'll add it and update
the port.  :)

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Hi All, I wrote before:
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Hi

I'm planning to setup an l2tp connection between my home and my work

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On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 12:24:20PM -0700, Hartoyo wrote:

> well, I am using sophos anti-virus (for linux - runs under linux emulator -
> www.sophos.com) and amavis (www.amavis.org) as the mail wrapper to postfix.
> Working great without any problem =)
BTW, there's a native FreeBSD binary for Sophos! no obvious need to run
linux emulator to me.

http://www.sophos.com/downloads/products/index.cgi/next?GroupsID=5



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Mark Blackman wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 12:24:20PM -0700, Hartoyo wrote:
>
> > well, I am using sophos anti-virus (for linux - runs under linux emulator -
> > www.sophos.com) and amavis (www.amavis.org) as the mail wrapper to postfix.
> > Working great without any problem =)
> BTW, there's a native FreeBSD binary for Sophos! no obvious need to run
> linux emulator to me.
>
> http://www.sophos.com/downloads/products/index.cgi/next?GroupsID=5

I know...
the reason I have to use Linux version is that's all I got... (my employee has
license for sophos software)...
Either FreeBSD was missing from the contract or somebody hide it from me!
Of course, after they see how well FreeBSD perform, there is a good chance I will
get the FreeBSD version in the future! =)

thanks




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Hi, got this new IBM ata/66 15gb drive today, after I mounted it on
/home and did a quotacheck -a on it, I get brunch of:

ad2: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 27656543 retrying
ad2: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 27656543ata1-master: WARNING: WAIT_READY
active=ATA_ACTIVE_ATA
 falling back to PIO mode

on my console.  What does that mean? bad sectors?  What happened to
that bad144 program in 4.1-stable?  Yes, I did enable softupdate.

Thanks



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Good. Well the FreeBSD version is free to download and evaluate with 
*no strings attached*. In fact, I'm sure that you can use the FreeBSD 
binary on your existing license (if it lets you use Linux). The licenses
cover seats protected not flavour of UNIX run on. The Unix product line is
grouped together. 

- Mark


> Mark Blackman wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 12:24:20PM -0700, Hartoyo wrote:
> >
> > > well, I am using sophos anti-virus (for linux - runs under linux emulator -
> > > www.sophos.com) and amavis (www.amavis.org) as the mail wrapper to postfix.
> > > Working great without any problem =)
> > BTW, there's a native FreeBSD binary for Sophos! no obvious need to run
> > linux emulator to me.
> >
> > http://www.sophos.com/downloads/products/index.cgi/next?GroupsID=5
> 
> I know...
> the reason I have to use Linux version is that's all I got... (my employee has
> license for sophos software)...
> Either FreeBSD was missing from the contract or somebody hide it from me!
> Of course, after they see how well FreeBSD perform, there is a good chance I will
> get the FreeBSD version in the future! =)
> 
> thanks
> 


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Forgot to mention, it's a ASUS CUV4x board + 196 PC100 RAM + 650mhz PIII
running on a few minutes ago's 4.1-stable, 
Could it be the via 694x chipset?  Ofcourse, as soon as it switchs to PIO mode,
it'd be fine... but i really want to take the advantage
of the ata/66 disk...

any hints?

Thanks

On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, FengYue wrote:

> 
> Hi, got this new IBM ata/66 15gb drive today, after I mounted it on
> /home and did a quotacheck -a on it, I get brunch of:
> 
> ad2: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 27656543 retrying
> ad2: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 27656543ata1-master: WARNING: WAIT_READY
> active=ATA_ACTIVE_ATA
>  falling back to PIO mode
> 
> on my console.  What does that mean? bad sectors?  What happened to
> that bad144 program in 4.1-stable?  Yes, I did enable softupdate.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
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>  The licenses cover seats protected not flavour of UNIX run on.

What's the cost for an unlimited version for an ISP?

The Sophos clown in France didn't have a clue and I'm still waiting 
for him to get the info from UK.

Len


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problem solved, ata/66 cable issue..., sigh, sorry for the crap.

On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, FengYue wrote:

> 
> Forgot to mention, it's a ASUS CUV4x board + 196 PC100 RAM + 650mhz PIII
> running on a few minutes ago's 4.1-stable, 
> Could it be the via 694x chipset?  Ofcourse, as soon as it switchs to PIO mode,
> it'd be fine... but i really want to take the advantage
> of the ata/66 disk...
> 
> any hints?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, FengYue wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hi, got this new IBM ata/66 15gb drive today, after I mounted it on
> > /home and did a quotacheck -a on it, I get brunch of:
> > 
> > ad2: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 27656543 retrying
> > ad2: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 27656543ata1-master: WARNING: WAIT_READY
> > active=ATA_ACTIVE_ATA
> >  falling back to PIO mode
> > 
> > on my console.  What does that mean? bad sectors?  What happened to
> > that bad144 program in 4.1-stable?  Yes, I did enable softupdate.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > 
> > 
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I think its either in terms of seats protected or per CPU if you're running
with servers (I could be wrong). The French operation only just started in
July so they're still trying to catch up. The UK office is the original and
HQ. To be blunt, I'd suggest phoning the UK office directly and asking for the
International Sales team and point out your lack of communication from the
French office. The UK office International Sales team is likely to be fairly
responsive.

- Mark

On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:21:39AM +0200, Len Conrad wrote:
> 
> >  The licenses cover seats protected not flavour of UNIX run on.
> 
> What's the cost for an unlimited version for an ISP?
> 
> The Sophos clown in France didn't have a clue and I'm still waiting 
> for him to get the info from UK.
> 
> Len
> 
> 
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I've been looking all over and if this one is posted somewhere, I do
apologize.

I'm using 2 FreeBSD machines for DNS. I just set them up a few days ago.
When I set up the DNS originally, everthing worked fine. I altered our
/etc/resolv.conf file to point to our servers for DNS info (on both
machines). I was able to look up both the domains set up on the two
machines via nslookup (one set up as primary and the other as secondary) as
well as externally resolved addresses. I checked my @home ISP's DNS via
nslookup and also was getting good info back (my settings from the new
nameservers was propagating). I thought everything was hunky-dory.

This morning I (nervously, neurotically, you decide) checked my @home
nslookup on a couple of the domains I had recently set up on my
nameservers, and they came back with that nasty "non-existent host/domain"
message. I then logged on to my machines to see what was going on. When I
tried to use nslookup on the nameserver machines, I get the following:
# nslookup
*** Can't find server name for address abc.def.abc.def: Non-existent
host/domain
*** Can't find server name for address abc.def.abc.jhk: Non-existent
host/domain
*** Default servers are not available
#

I checked named and it was running. I restarted them on both machines (no
errors) and still get the same 'can't find server ..." error message.

(yes, both machines are in the DNS files and /etc/hosts :) and again, this
all worked fine yesterday )

Has anyone had this happen to them?  (Is this one of those humps people
just 'get over')

I truly appreciate any suggestions on this issue.

Strugglin,

Mike Dickerson
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On Fri, 8 Sep 2000 mdickerson@officeonweb.net wrote:

> *** Can't find server name for address abc.def.abc.def: Non-existent
> host/domain
> *** Can't find server name for address abc.def.abc.jhk: Non-existent
> host/domain
> *** Default servers are not available

Look in /etc/resolv.conf

Also....  If this has CHANGED, check and see if you've been broken into.

(Root should only have access to this file)

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Forrest,

Thank you for your reply. /etc/resolv.conf was the first thing I checked.
It had not been changed (I double checked both machined /etc/resolv.conf
before I restarted named). That's why I'm so perplexed. It seems like I'm
doing something blatantly stupid, or something 'devious' is going on. It
seems more likely to be the former :(.

BTW, restarting named did not fix my problem.

Still Strugglin,

Mike Dickerson
Officeonweb.net



At 08:42 AM 9/8/00 -0600, you wrote:
>On Fri, 8 Sep 2000 mdickerson@officeonweb.net wrote:
>
>> *** Can't find server name for address abc.def.abc.def: Non-existent
>> host/domain
>> *** Can't find server name for address abc.def.abc.jhk: Non-existent
>> host/domain
>> *** Default servers are not available
>
>Look in /etc/resolv.conf
>
>Also....  If this has CHANGED, check and see if you've been broken into.
>
>(Root should only have access to this file)
>
>- Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE
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>
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How much is a file server license?

--jeff

On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Mark Blackman wrote:

> Good. Well the FreeBSD version is free to download and evaluate with 
> *no strings attached*. In fact, I'm sure that you can use the FreeBSD 
> binary on your existing license (if it lets you use Linux). The licenses
> cover seats protected not flavour of UNIX run on. The Unix product line is
> grouped together. 
> 
> - Mark
> 
> 
> > Mark Blackman wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 12:24:20PM -0700, Hartoyo wrote:
> > >
> > > > well, I am using sophos anti-virus (for linux - runs under linux emulator -
> > > > www.sophos.com) and amavis (www.amavis.org) as the mail wrapper to postfix.
> > > > Working great without any problem =)
> > > BTW, there's a native FreeBSD binary for Sophos! no obvious need to run
> > > linux emulator to me.
> > >
> > > http://www.sophos.com/downloads/products/index.cgi/next?GroupsID=5
> > 
> > I know...
> > the reason I have to use Linux version is that's all I got... (my employee has
> > license for sophos software)...
> > Either FreeBSD was missing from the contract or somebody hide it from me!
> > Of course, after they see how well FreeBSD perform, there is a good chance I will
> > get the FreeBSD version in the future! =)
> > 
> > thanks
> > 
> 
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From: Mike <mike@mikesweb.com>
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I ran into this problem. I found that I needed to run reverse lookups for 
the IP addresses of mine that were name servers..

Using a class C of 123.456.789.0

in named.conf
zone "789.456.123.IN-ADDR.ARPA" {
         type master;
         file "hosts.rev";
};

in hosts.rev where 123.456.789.1 is your first nameserver, and 
123.456.789.6 is another host or nameserver.

@       IN      SOA     ns1.domain.com. root.ns1.domain.com.  (
                                 20000729        ; Serial
                                 3600    ; Refresh
                                 900     ; Retry
                                 3600000 ; Expire
                                 3600 )  ; Minimum
         IN      NS      ns1.domain.com.
1       IN      PTR     ns1.domain.com.
6       IN      PTR     second_host.domain.com

then killall -HUP named..

That should do it for you.
Mike

At 09:01 AM 9/8/2000 -0600, mdickerson@officeonweb.net wrote:
>I've been looking all over and if this one is posted somewhere, I do
>apologize.
>
>I'm using 2 FreeBSD machines for DNS. I just set them up a few days ago.
>When I set up the DNS originally, everthing worked fine. I altered our
>/etc/resolv.conf file to point to our servers for DNS info (on both
>machines). I was able to look up both the domains set up on the two
>machines via nslookup (one set up as primary and the other as secondary) as
>well as externally resolved addresses. I checked my @home ISP's DNS via
>nslookup and also was getting good info back (my settings from the new
>nameservers was propagating). I thought everything was hunky-dory.
>
>This morning I (nervously, neurotically, you decide) checked my @home
>nslookup on a couple of the domains I had recently set up on my
>nameservers, and they came back with that nasty "non-existent host/domain"
>message. I then logged on to my machines to see what was going on. When I
>tried to use nslookup on the nameserver machines, I get the following:
># nslookup
>*** Can't find server name for address abc.def.abc.def: Non-existent
>host/domain
>*** Can't find server name for address abc.def.abc.jhk: Non-existent
>host/domain
>*** Default servers are not available
>#
>
>I checked named and it was running. I restarted them on both machines (no
>errors) and still get the same 'can't find server ..." error message.
>
>(yes, both machines are in the DNS files and /etc/hosts :) and again, this
>all worked fine yesterday )
>
>Has anyone had this happen to them?  (Is this one of those humps people
>just 'get over')
>
>I truly appreciate any suggestions on this issue.
>
>Strugglin,
>
>Mike Dickerson
>Officeonweb.net
>
>
>
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On Fri, 8 Sep 2000 mdickerson@officeonweb.net wrote:

> Thank you for your reply. /etc/resolv.conf was the first thing I checked.
> It had not been changed (I double checked both machined /etc/resolv.conf
> before I restarted named). That's why I'm so perplexed. It seems like I'm
> doing something blatantly stupid, or something 'devious' is going on. It
> seems more likely to be the former :(.

Can you do a dig against the nameservers?

dig @name.server.addr.ess www.yourdomain.com

Also, is REVERSE dns set up on the nameserver addresses?


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I'm trying to do this:

I want to make a nameserver thats already on the Internet and working
properly, etc look to another machine to receive DNS updates. How can I do
that without too much trouble, e.g. changing the DNS servers on InterNIC.

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I recently had to change the IP of our DNS server, and it wasn't any trouble
at all; I was pleasantly surprised.  I only had to change it for the server
itself, not for the several hundred domains that used it. *phew*

If for some reason, you wanted to keep it listed as the dns server, but be
updated from somewhere else, you should look into using rsync combined with
a cron job...  It's unnecessary, as far as I can tell, but it works.

-Adam

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I'm trying to do this:

I want to make a nameserver thats already on the Internet and working
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that without too much trouble, e.g. changing the DNS servers on InterNIC.

-- Jonathan M. Slivko

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Anyone hacked the mod_php4/scripts/configure.php to include mod_ssl?
Also, why is SNMP still disabled. Every time I want to use it I have
to remember to clip the lines out which disable SNMP. Just wondering. 

I hacked it to include Flash. 

Is there a FreeBSD configuration for Apache micro-project going?


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Hi Alex,

mod_ssl is a module for Apache, not PHP.  It works on a lower level than the
PHP engine does and has no relation whatsoever with PHP.  You must code your
PHP scripts to handle https connections.

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Anyone hacked the mod_php4/scripts/configure.php to include mod_ssl?
Also, why is SNMP still disabled. Every time I want to use it I have
to remember to clip the lines out which disable SNMP. Just wondering.

I hacked it to include Flash.

Is there a FreeBSD configuration for Apache micro-project going?


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Vibol,

 Thanks for a quick response, and clarification. How does one add
mod_ssl to an apache server which is built with php4 ? Perhaps I'm
missing some simple instruction somewhere.. Its been a long day.. :-)

 -Alex


Vibol Hou wrote:
> 
> Hi Alex,
> 
> mod_ssl is a module for Apache, not PHP.  It works on a lower level than the
> PHP engine does and has no relation whatsoever with PHP.  You must code your
> PHP scripts to handle https connections.
> 
> --
> Vibol Hou
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Alex
> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 11:16 PM
> To: free
> Subject: mod_php4 + ssl - and Flash support
> 
> Anyone hacked the mod_php4/scripts/configure.php to include mod_ssl?
> Also, why is SNMP still disabled. Every time I want to use it I have
> to remember to clip the lines out which disable SNMP. Just wondering.
> 
> I hacked it to include Flash.
> 
> Is there a FreeBSD configuration for Apache micro-project going?
> 
>  -Alex
> 
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Hi Alex,

Look in /usr/ports/www for the mod_ssl package.  It will install the DSO for
that module.  If you manually compiled Apache statically, you will not be
able to use it.  You should try installing apache using apache13-base and
selecting the options you want to install.

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Vibol,

 Thanks for a quick response, and clarification. How does one add
mod_ssl to an apache server which is built with php4 ? Perhaps I'm
missing some simple instruction somewhere.. Its been a long day.. :-)

 -Alex


Vibol Hou wrote:
>
> Hi Alex,
>
> mod_ssl is a module for Apache, not PHP.  It works on a lower level than
the
> PHP engine does and has no relation whatsoever with PHP.  You must code
your
> PHP scripts to handle https connections.
>
> --
> Vibol Hou
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Alex
> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 11:16 PM
> To: free
> Subject: mod_php4 + ssl - and Flash support
>
> Anyone hacked the mod_php4/scripts/configure.php to include mod_ssl?
> Also, why is SNMP still disabled. Every time I want to use it I have
> to remember to clip the lines out which disable SNMP. Just wondering.
>
> I hacked it to include Flash.
>
> Is there a FreeBSD configuration for Apache micro-project going?
>
>  -Alex
>
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