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Hi all

My FreeBSD box has 2 nic's in it, both 10/100. My hub is 10/100 as well but
only half-duplex. As a result, I have collision lights showing constantly.

How do I set the nic's so that they are in half-duplex mode? They are both
Accton cards.

TIA
/wiZZ



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On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 12:05:31PM +0200, Peter Salvage wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> My FreeBSD box has 2 nic's in it, both 10/100. My hub is 10/100 as well but
> only half-duplex. As a result, I have collision lights showing constantly.
> 
> How do I set the nic's so that they are in half-duplex mode? They are both
> Accton cards.

ifconfig -a

jesper@freesbee$ ifconfig -a
xl0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
        inet x.x.x.97 netmask 0xffffffc0 broadcast x.x.x.127
        ether 00:60:97:7d:74:ac 
        media: 10baseT/UTP <half-duplex>
        supported media: autoselect 100baseTX <full-duplex> 100baseTX <half-duplex> 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex> 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP <half-duplex>


/Jesper

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Hi Jasper

Thanks! When I do ifconfig -a this is what I get:

rl0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
         inet x.x.x.x netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast x.x.x.x
         ether 00:10:h5:42:7d:69
         media: autoselect (100baseTX) status: active
         supported media: autoselect 100baseTX <full-duplex> 100baseTX
10baseT/UTP <full-duplex> 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX (hw loopback)
rl1: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
         inet x.x.x.x netmask 0xfffffffc broadcast x.x.x.x
         ether 00:10:h5:42:7b:f1
         media: autoselect (none) status: active
         supported media: autoselect 100baseTX <full-duplex> 100baseTX
10baseT/UTP <full-duplex> 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX (hw loopback)

Looking through the man pages for ifconfig, it appears I need to do the
following for both interfaces:
ifconfig rl0 inet media 10baseT/UTP

Could you please check my syntax so that I don't blow anything up :-)

TIA
/wiZZ

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> On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 12:05:31PM +0200, Peter Salvage wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > My FreeBSD box has 2 nic's in it, both 10/100. My hub is 10/100 as well
but
> > only half-duplex. As a result, I have collision lights showing
constantly.
> >
> > How do I set the nic's so that they are in half-duplex mode? They are
both
> > Accton cards.
>
> ifconfig -a



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On 10-Sep-00 Alex wrote:

Good $Greetings_time,

> Anyone hacked the mod_php4/scripts/configure.php to include mod_ssl?
         ^^^^^^
By this way, more comprehensive word is "configured" =) Just configure both
php4 and mod_ssl to use apache server, even through DSO. mod_ssl is a module
for Apache, not for php4.

> Also, why is SNMP still disabled. Every time I want to use it I have
> to remember to clip the lines out which disable SNMP. Just wondering. 

Have you installed any of the required SNMP librares?

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You currently have 100 Mbps half-duplex, if you want to change that to
10 Mbps half-duplex, and the ip address etc. is configured elsewhere,
all you have to do is

ifconfig rl0 media 10baseT/UTP

That is no inet ...

You can also add 'media 10baseT/UTP' to the ifconfig line in
/etc/rc.conf

/Jesper

On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 02:23:36PM +0200, Peter Salvage wrote:
> Hi Jasper
> 
> Thanks! When I do ifconfig -a this is what I get:
> 
> rl0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
>          inet x.x.x.x netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast x.x.x.x
>          ether 00:10:h5:42:7d:69
>          media: autoselect (100baseTX) status: active
>          supported media: autoselect 100baseTX <full-duplex> 100baseTX
> 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex> 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX (hw loopback)
> rl1: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
>          inet x.x.x.x netmask 0xfffffffc broadcast x.x.x.x
>          ether 00:10:h5:42:7b:f1
>          media: autoselect (none) status: active
>          supported media: autoselect 100baseTX <full-duplex> 100baseTX
> 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex> 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX (hw loopback)
> 
> Looking through the man pages for ifconfig, it appears I need to do the
> following for both interfaces:
> ifconfig rl0 inet media 10baseT/UTP
> 
> Could you please check my syntax so that I don't blow anything up :-)
> 
> TIA
> /wiZZ
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jesper Skriver" <jesper@skriver.dk>
> To: "Peter Salvage" <wizard@sybaweb.co.za>
> Cc: "FreeBSD List" <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: 10 September 2000 12:04
> Subject: Re: NIC settings
> 
> 
> > On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 12:05:31PM +0200, Peter Salvage wrote:
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > My FreeBSD box has 2 nic's in it, both 10/100. My hub is 10/100 as well
> but
> > > only half-duplex. As a result, I have collision lights showing
> constantly.
> > >
> > > How do I set the nic's so that they are in half-duplex mode? They are
> both
> > > Accton cards.
> >
> > ifconfig -a
> 

/Jesper

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Alexander.. 

I happen to like the menu style configuration of mod_php4. Would it be
charming, if the entire suite of Apache options could be run through
such a menu. A dream, perhaps. That way one could build an Apache,
with say, FrontPage, SSL, PHP4 ( and it's options ), mod_perl a bit
faster. If someone would like to post a formula for that, I'd be
grateful. 

Sure, all the SNMP libraries are installed. :-) *configured* is not an
option. Each time I upgrade mod_php4, of course, that revision wipes
out the previous configure.php. That's why I called my change a
'hack'. <:-)  The /scripts/configure.php needs the following change to
enable SNMP:

delete:
<                       echo "SNMP is DISABLED for now. Ignoring." >
/dev/stderr
<                       ;;
<               \"nothing\")

I added 

> Flash         "Macromedia Flash support" ON \
and
>               \"Flash\")
>                       echo "CONFIGURE_ARGS+=--with-swf=/usr/local"

to the file scripts/configure.php to enable the Flash code. 

and then run Make. Seems to work fine for my purposes..

With respect to all this, the upcoming Apache 2.0 apparently has a
better configuration approach. I appreciate the work that someone did
to make mod_php4 easy to configure. Its quite straightforward. It
would be good to see a complete configurator for Apache.



"Alexander A. Radunsky" wrote:
> 
> On 10-Sep-00 Alex wrote:
> 
> Good $Greetings_time,
> 
> > Anyone hacked the mod_php4/scripts/configure.php to include mod_ssl?
>          ^^^^^^
> By this way, more comprehensive word is "configured" =) Just configure both
> php4 and mod_ssl to use apache server, even through DSO. mod_ssl is a module
> for Apache, not for php4.
> 
> > Also, why is SNMP still disabled. Every time I want to use it I have
> > to remember to clip the lines out which disable SNMP. Just wondering.
> 
> Have you installed any of the required SNMP librares?
> 
> --
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Actually, switching to half duplex won't really help you a whole lot.. I 
had a 10mb hub that had the collision light almost always on. If you want 
to stop the collisions you'll want to replace your hub with a switch.

Mike

At 12:05 PM 9/10/2000 +0200, Peter Salvage wrote:
>Hi all
>
>My FreeBSD box has 2 nic's in it, both 10/100. My hub is 10/100 as well but
>only half-duplex. As a result, I have collision lights showing constantly.
>
>How do I set the nic's so that they are in half-duplex mode? They are both
>Accton cards.
>
>TIA
>/wiZZ
>
>
>
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> Actually, switching to half duplex won't really help you a whole lot.. I 
> had a 10mb hub that had the collision light almost always on. If you want 
> to stop the collisions you'll want to replace your hub with a switch.

Why on earth do you want to stop the collisions? Collisions are *normal*
and *expected* when you use half duplex Ethernet. Collisions seldom matter,
performance does. As Rich Seifert puts it,

> A major preoccupation with network administrators these days seems to be
> monitoring and worrying about the number of collisions seen on Ethernet
> networks. There is a great deal of folklore and voodoo concerning what
> is an "acceptable" collision rate or collision percentage, and when is
> the network "broken" or on the verge of collapse. Except in the most
> extreme of circumstances (all of which are observable through other,
> better metrics), the number of collisions seen on a network in an
> uninteresting and misleading statistic.

(If you don't know who Rich Seifert is, check out comp.dcom.lans.ethernet.)

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I'd say you should really be looking at latency across the network, in
terms of things like ping, etc.  A high number of collisions may be a
sign that the latency has gone up, as a result of too many hosts on the
same network, in which case some sort of segmentation (ie with switches)
can be useful.  Collisions alone, however, aren't much of anything of
note...unless every person has their own full-duplex port on a switch
you will never be able to get rid of them, nor should you want to.

Laurence

sthaug@nethelp.no wrote:
> 
> > Actually, switching to half duplex won't really help you a whole lot.. I
> > had a 10mb hub that had the collision light almost always on. If you want
> > to stop the collisions you'll want to replace your hub with a switch.
> 
> Why on earth do you want to stop the collisions? Collisions are *normal*
> and *expected* when you use half duplex Ethernet. Collisions seldom matter,
> performance does. As Rich Seifert puts it,
> 
> > A major preoccupation with network administrators these days seems to be
> > monitoring and worrying about the number of collisions seen on Ethernet
> > networks. There is a great deal of folklore and voodoo concerning what
> > is an "acceptable" collision rate or collision percentage, and when is
> > the network "broken" or on the verge of collapse. Except in the most
> > extreme of circumstances (all of which are observable through other,
> > better metrics), the number of collisions seen on a network in an
> > uninteresting and misleading statistic.
> 
> (If you don't know who Rich Seifert is, check out comp.dcom.lans.ethernet.)
> 
> Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no
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My reasoning was because of all the collisions, data packets were being 
resent at a high rate, filling up my T1s quicker, and causing a lot of 
interface resets on my router. When I went to a switch, I noticed about a 
10% decrease in network traffic..

At 09:12 PM 9/10/2000 +0200, sthaug@nethelp.no wrote:
> > Actually, switching to half duplex won't really help you a whole lot.. I
> > had a 10mb hub that had the collision light almost always on. If you want
> > to stop the collisions you'll want to replace your hub with a switch.
>
>Why on earth do you want to stop the collisions? Collisions are *normal*
>and *expected* when you use half duplex Ethernet. Collisions seldom matter,
>performance does. As Rich Seifert puts it,
>
> > A major preoccupation with network administrators these days seems to be
> > monitoring and worrying about the number of collisions seen on Ethernet
> > networks. There is a great deal of folklore and voodoo concerning what
> > is an "acceptable" collision rate or collision percentage, and when is
> > the network "broken" or on the verge of collapse. Except in the most
> > extreme of circumstances (all of which are observable through other,
> > better metrics), the number of collisions seen on a network in an
> > uninteresting and misleading statistic.
>
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>
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> I'd say you should really be looking at latency across the network, in
> terms of things like ping, etc.

Agreed. This is one possible performance metric.

> A high number of collisions may be a sign that the latency has gone up,

Agreed, as long as you include the "may".

> as a result of too many hosts on the
> same network, in which case some sort of segmentation (ie with switches)
> can be useful.  Collisions alone, however, aren't much of anything of
> note...unless every person has their own full-duplex port on a switch
> you will never be able to get rid of them, nor should you want to.

Exactly.

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> My reasoning was because of all the collisions, data packets were being 
> resent at a high rate, filling up my T1s quicker, and causing a lot of 
> interface resets on my router. When I went to a switch, I noticed about a 
> 10% decrease in network traffic..

Then I think you should look for other causes for this change. A collision
does *not* result in a whole packet being "wasted" (as many people seem to
think) - it uses *up to* (512 + 32) bit, ie. 68 byte. You'd need a lot of 
very small packets, and a rather high collision rate, to get a 10% increase
in traffic due to collisions.

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> > A major preoccupation with network administrators these days seems to be
> > monitoring and worrying about the number of collisions seen on Ethernet
> > networks. There is a great deal of folklore and voodoo concerning what
> > is an "acceptable" collision rate or collision percentage, and when is
> > the network "broken" or on the verge of collapse. Except in the most
> > extreme of circumstances (all of which are observable through other,
> > better metrics), the number of collisions seen on a network in an
> > uninteresting and misleading statistic.

	Good point, I was once in a room with about 200 computers hooked
On one side of the room there was a bank of hubs and switches. In the
space of a two minutes or so, there was easily a couple thousand
collisions. It didn't really seem to be affecting anyone. On the other
hand I believe it was also a Token-Ring Novell Network... :)

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Should not the router on the T1 be performing some sort of cacheing so
that packets don't get retransmitted across the T1 every time a
collision occurs?

sthaug@nethelp.no wrote:
> 
> > My reasoning was because of all the collisions, data packets were being
> > resent at a high rate, filling up my T1s quicker, and causing a lot of
> > interface resets on my router. When I went to a switch, I noticed about a
> > 10% decrease in network traffic..
> 
> Then I think you should look for other causes for this change. A collision
> does *not* result in a whole packet being "wasted" (as many people seem to
> think) - it uses *up to* (512 + 32) bit, ie. 68 byte. You'd need a lot of
> very small packets, and a rather high collision rate, to get a 10% increase
> in traffic due to collisions.
> 
> Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no
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> Should not the router on the T1 be performing some sort of cacheing so
> that packets don't get retransmitted across the T1 every time a
> collision occurs?

Um, packets *don't* get retransmitted across the T1 every time a
collision occurs. In fact packets don't even get *to* the router's
Ethernet port until the collision is resolved.

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Let's see if this is the right way to describe the process 
1.  packet comes across t1 bound for local ethernet.
2.  the router examines the packet, determines it should go out over
ethernet.
3.  the router uses csma/cd and gets one of the followng
	a) line in use, so wait for it free
	b) line free, transmits frame successfully
	c) line free, transmits frame, collision occurs so back off a random
time and retry.

C is the one we're interested in.  I don't see how it would increase the
utilization of the T1 at all (as the author to whom I originally replied
alluded)

sthaug@nethelp.no wrote:
> 
> > Should not the router on the T1 be performing some sort of cacheing so
> > that packets don't get retransmitted across the T1 every time a
> > collision occurs?
> 
> Um, packets *don't* get retransmitted across the T1 every time a
> collision occurs. In fact packets don't even get *to* the router's
> Ethernet port until the collision is resolved.
> 
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On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Mike wrote:

> Actually, switching to half duplex won't really help you a whole lot.. I 
> had a 10mb hub that had the collision light almost always on. If you want 
> to stop the collisions you'll want to replace your hub with a switch.
> 
> Mike

  Hubs are half-duplex by design.  Running full-duplex into a hub will
cause far worse problems than a few collisions.

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From: "Vibol Hou" <grid@ucsd.edu>
> Look in /usr/ports/www for the mod_ssl package.  It will install the DSO
for
> that module.  If you manually compiled Apache statically, you will not be
> able to use it.  You should try installing apache using apache13-base and
> selecting the options you want to install.
>
There is no apache13-base in the current FreeBSD ports Collection.  That
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Alex, what you need to do is install the apache13-mod_ssl port, then install
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Scot,

 That's precisely what I did.. Works great.. httpd is now apache, and
the config file name has changed. No problem otherwise. 

 Now, if only I could get the 'flash/swf' support to work.. :-)

 Thanks for your reply.

 -Alex


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> From: "Vibol Hou" <grid@ucsd.edu>
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> for
> > that module.  If you manually compiled Apache statically, you will not be
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> > selecting the options you want to install.
> >
> There is no apache13-base in the current FreeBSD ports Collection.  That
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This may be partially OT in the forums, but still, I need some help before I
loose all my hair...

We've got a client with a FreeBSD box with 2 NIC's, one to the internal net,
one to a intel8200 router connected through channelized E1 to a cisco2620 at
our premises, and then through our border router to the internet.

They want to connect to a server http://www.some.dom but it rarely ever
succeds.
But they can connect to www2.some.dom at the same company at the same
c-class.
They also can connect 99.99% of the the times to www.dr.dk.


I'm running BigBrother at both their location and at our location. It
monitors http, ftp
 and smtp on www[2].some.dom

From our location it works, from their, www.some.dom fails most of the time.
And
that's through the same borderrouter.
I even changed our client's ip so it is in the same c-class as the server at
our location.

I can't do a traceroute, because global one seems to have filtered pings at
the router to
 the client. Could that matter? Shouldn't...

The reverse dns is also missing for some.dom, but that shouldn't matter
either. Or?

I really don't know what to do or try next. Help! (Reply privately to
mailto:leif@neland.dk so not to clutter the lists.

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From: "Alex" <alex@aspenworks.com>
> I happen to like the menu style configuration of mod_php4. Would it be
> charming, if the entire suite of Apache options could be run through
> such a menu. A dream, perhaps. That way one could build an Apache,
> with say, FrontPage, SSL, PHP4 ( and it's options ), mod_perl a bit
> faster. If someone would like to post a formula for that, I'd be
> grateful.
>

I had created such a port for the FreeBSD Apache Modualarization Project:

http://www.westbend.net/~hetzels/mod_apache13-1.tgz

Unfortunately, it (apache13-base) won't be imported into the FreeBSD Ports Collection, as I received a few comments that it isn't
needed.

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On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 12:00:18AM -0500, Scot W. Hetzel wrote:

> I had created such a port for the FreeBSD Apache Modualarization Project:
> 
> http://www.westbend.net/~hetzels/mod_apache13-1.tgz
> 
> Unfortunately, it (apache13-base) won't be imported into the FreeBSD Ports Collection, as I received a few comments that it isn't
> needed.

The apache situation is out of hand. We have far too many different theories of
what is the right way, and none of them agree.

Scot's work has worked perfectly for me when I tried it on scratch machines, why
aren't we importing it and ditching the existing scheme?

-- 
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Scot,

Seems useful to me.. Perhaps there's a new total apache configurator
tool coming? There are tons of mod's and build options.. It begs an
improved configuration interface.

A few developers are asking for Dreamweaver Ultradev support on our
FreeBSD systems. Any suggestions?

From the MacroMedia doc:

 "You must tell UltraDev what server technology you're using—ASP, JSP,
or ColdFusion—so it can insert the proper kinds of server-side scripts
and tags into your pages"

 What planet is Macromedia on? There really aren't any people using
ASP/ODBC, are there? ;-)
 
 Any suggestions on how to support Ultradev with PHP/MySQL, rather
than ASP/ODBC ?

 Cheers,

 -Alex



"Scot W. Hetzel" wrote:
> 
> From: "Alex" <alex@aspenworks.com>
> > I happen to like the menu style configuration of mod_php4. Would it be
> > charming, if the entire suite of Apache options could be run through
> > such a menu. A dream, perhaps. That way one could build an Apache,
> > with say, FrontPage, SSL, PHP4 ( and it's options ), mod_perl a bit
> > faster. If someone would like to post a formula for that, I'd be
> > grateful.
> >
> 
> I had created such a port for the FreeBSD Apache Modualarization Project:
> 
> http://www.westbend.net/~hetzels/mod_apache13-1.tgz
> 
> Unfortunately, it (apache13-base) won't be imported into the FreeBSD Ports Collection, as I received a few comments that it isn't
> needed.
> 
> Scot


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On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Alex wrote:

> A few developers are asking for Dreamweaver Ultradev support on our
> FreeBSD systems. Any suggestions?

JServ + Applets.   BTW, it sucks.  (kinda works but you spend more time
fighting ultradev)

(I gave up on ultradev and am now using Apache::ASP and writing my stuff
in "Perl ASP")

Would be interesting to try to convince someone to port the ASP code to
the Perl version of ASP.

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Bill Fumerola so elequently spoke these words:

> The apache situation is out of hand. We have far too many different
theories of
> what is the right way, and none of them agree.
>
> Scot's work has worked perfectly for me when I tried it on scratch
machines, why
> aren't we importing it and ditching the existing scheme?

I have to agree.

After much head banging to install PHP/SSL/FrontPage on a couple of machines
I found Scot's port to work beautifully.

Thanks Scot ;-)

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It seems to me that this is exactly what _is_ needed!

Thanks Scot.

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Scot,

Seems useful to me.. Perhaps there's a new total apache configurator
tool coming? There are tons of mod's and build options.. It begs an
improved configuration interface.

A few developers are asking for Dreamweaver Ultradev support on our
FreeBSD systems. Any suggestions?

>From the MacroMedia doc:

 "You must tell UltraDev what server technology you're using—ASP, JSP,
or ColdFusion—so it can insert the proper kinds of server-side scripts
and tags into your pages"

 What planet is Macromedia on? There really aren't any people using
ASP/ODBC, are there? ;-)

 Any suggestions on how to support Ultradev with PHP/MySQL, rather
than ASP/ODBC ?

 Cheers,

 -Alex



"Scot W. Hetzel" wrote:
>
> From: "Alex" <alex@aspenworks.com>
> > I happen to like the menu style configuration of mod_php4. Would it be
> > charming, if the entire suite of Apache options could be run through
> > such a menu. A dream, perhaps. That way one could build an Apache,
> > with say, FrontPage, SSL, PHP4 ( and it's options ), mod_perl a bit
> > faster. If someone would like to post a formula for that, I'd be
> > grateful.
> >
>
> I had created such a port for the FreeBSD Apache Modualarization Project:
>
> http://www.westbend.net/~hetzels/mod_apache13-1.tgz
>
> Unfortunately, it (apache13-base) won't be imported into the FreeBSD Ports
Collection, as I received a few comments that it isn't
> needed.
>
> Scot


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Hello,

I'm having a little problem with my server. I have some dial up customers
that have limited disk space for e-mail storage, controlled by FreeBSD's
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On the other hand...

I could not make Scot's port work on my system.. Eventually, I abandoned the
ports and did everything from scratch using excellent instructions from
devshed.com.

Oh well......


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Bill Fumerola so elequently spoke these words:

> The apache situation is out of hand. We have far too many different
theories of
> what is the right way, and none of them agree.
>
> Scot's work has worked perfectly for me when I tried it on scratch
machines, why
> aren't we importing it and ditching the existing scheme?

I have to agree.

After much head banging to install PHP/SSL/FrontPage on a couple of machines
I found Scot's port to work beautifully.

Thanks Scot ;-)

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I know I've seen this somewhere....

Is it possible to restrict access to telnet so that it is only availabe to
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Yes it is with tcp_wrappers. What version of freebsd do you have?


At 11:02 PM 9/12/2000 +0100, InvictaNet Customer Support wrote:
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I put this on -questions a while back and didn't get any responses so I'll
try it here.

I'm trying to install fp extensions from the ports collection (and in
general).

I'm running 3.5 STABLE w/ apache 1.3.12.

I go to the /usr/ports/www/apache-fp to do the make. It fetches the
"something.bsdi.something.Z" and proceeds. It gets to:
===> Patching for apache_fp-1.3.12
===> Applying FreeBSD patches for apache_fp-1.3.12
*** Error code 4

Stop.
...  and then a several lines of 'Error Code 1'  --> (doesn't that usually
mean a file it needs is missing?)

Since this didn't work, I also tried to install got fp40.freebsd.tar.Z from
the Micro$oft site (hoping it might work in 3.5 S despite the compatibility
claims). It didn't go well either (don't recall the errors).

Can anyone offer suggestions/solutions/ a direction I might go from here
(i.e. keep pluggin in a certain direction - I'm no stranger to beating my
head against a wall :) )? Will they just not work in my current
configuration? The micro$oft site suggests theirs works with 4.0 . For a
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Mike wrote:
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> Yes it is with tcp_wrappers. What version of freebsd do you have?
> 
> At 11:02 PM 9/12/2000 +0100, InvictaNet Customer Support wrote:
> >I know I've seen this somewhere....
> >
> >Is it possible to restrict access to telnet so that it is only availabe to
> >one or more specific IP addresses?

ipfilter works wonders also..



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Three answers back within 15 minutes and the first one came in almost as
soon as the message had finished sending!

Thanks very much, tcp_wrappers has it by 2:1.


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InvictaNet Customer Support wrote:
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> Three answers back within 15 minutes and the first one came in almost as
> soon as the message had finished sending!
> 
> Thanks very much, tcp_wrappers has it by 2:1.


They're different types of packages, but they can provide similar
functions.. 

I'd check into both to see which would work better in your situation,
tcp_wrappers will do it for you, but you can get much more creative
with Ipfilter since it's a full firewalling package..

Good luck..


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On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Steve Kaczkowski wrote:

> I'd check into both to see which would work better in your situation,
> tcp_wrappers will do it for you, but you can get much more creative
> with Ipfilter since it's a full firewalling package..

The other non-quantifyable advantage is that ipfilter/ipfw (whichever)
rejects the connection at a much lower level - logically, this would
indicate that ipfilter/ipfw *might* be more secure....

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Martyn Routley Wrote:

> On the other hand...
>
> I could not make Scot's port work on my system.. Eventually, I abandoned
the
> ports and did everything from scratch using excellent instructions from
> devshed.com.

I would be interested to know where you ran into trouble.  This could be of
help to Scott as well as others.

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On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Forrest W. Christian wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Steve Kaczkowski wrote:
> 
> > I'd check into both to see which would work better in your situation,
> > tcp_wrappers will do it for you, but you can get much more creative
> > with Ipfilter since it's a full firewalling package..
> 
> The other non-quantifyable advantage is that ipfilter/ipfw (whichever)
> rejects the connection at a much lower level - logically, this would
> indicate that ipfilter/ipfw *might* be more secure....

Yes, but tcp_wrappers can let you give a custom reject message. I know
identd isn't much more secure, but tcp_wrappers can require identd
support, limiting you from fewer script kiddies. Rules can be easier to
see and it works on other OSes too.

For fun, your 'telnet failed' could response look almost like your telnetd
didn't wait after prompting for "login:". I've seen one machine from a
junior college just try time after time to get a prompt that would let
them try hacking-in. Others seem to catch-on more quickly... (^_^)

With ipfw/ipfilter, you can prevent replying with a 'connection closed'
and cause all telnet attempts to take *much* longer to time-out, delaying 
attacks.

While ipfw/ipfilter *might* be more secure, I doubt it would be measurably
so. The tcp_wrappers codebase is *very* mature and have been pretty
frequently looked at by folks who can spot crack-points. All three (ipfw,
ipfilter, and tcp_wrappers) are industrial strength.

I'm suprised that we haven't heard the usual stuff about ssh being so much
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Subject: named virtual hosts
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I have the following setup for Apache and was trying to reduce some
of the duplicate lines.  What I have looks something like this.
Because this box will be hosting ~400 domains shortly I can't just
make the variables global.  Well I can make some of them global by
using VirtualDocumentRoot and VirtualScriptAlias, but that doesn't
work for all the duplicated lines.

NameVirtualHost 192.168.21.21
<VirtualHost 192.168.21.21>
 DocumentRoot	/home/foo/www
 ServerName	www.foo.com
 ServerAdmin	webmaster@foo.com
 ErrorLog	/home/foo/logs/error.log
 TransferLog	/home/foo/logs/access.log
 ScriptAlias	/cgi-bin/ /home/foo/cgi-bin/
</VirtualHost>
<IfDefine SSL>
 <VirtualHost 192.168.21.21:443>
   DocumentRoot	/home/foo/www
   ServerName	www.foo.com
   ServerAdmin	webmaster@foo.com
   ErrorLog	/home/foo/logs/error.log
   TransferLog	/home/foo/logs/access.log
   ScriptAlias	/cgi-bin/ /home/foo/cgi-bin/
   SSLEngine			on
   SSLCertificateFile		/home/foo/ssl/ssl.crt
   SSLCertificateKeyFile	/home/foo/ssl/ssl.key
 </VirtualHost>
</IfDefine>

What I'd like to be able to do is something like this instead.

NameVirtualHost 192.168.21.21
<VirtualHost 192.168.21.21>
 DocumentRoot	/home/foo/www
 ServerName	www.foo.com
 ServerAdmin	webmaster@foo.com
 ErrorLog	/home/foo/logs/error.log
 TransferLog	/home/foo/logs/access.log
 ScriptAlias	/cgi-bin/ /home/foo/cgi-bin/
 <IfDefine SSL>
  # The following will not work.
  #<If Port == 443>
  # SSLEngine		on
  # SSLCertficateFile	/home/foo/ssl/ssl.crt
  # SSLCertficateKeyFile	/home/foo/ssl/ssl.key
  #</If>
 </IfDefine>
</VirtualHost>

Any suggestions?  Thanks.

-steve


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You might think about creating some sort of file that has the specifics
for each domain, and then write a nifty perl script that whips through it a=
nd
generates your httpd.conf, inserting defaults or specifics as the case
may be.

I guess that wouldn't necessarily make it more readable, but might help
make it more maintainable and consistent.

George

Steve Price (sprice@hiwaay.net) wrote:
> I have the following setup for Apache and was trying to reduce some
> of the duplicate lines.  What I have looks something like this.
> Because this box will be hosting ~400 domains shortly I can't just
> make the variables global.  Well I can make some of them global by
> using VirtualDocumentRoot and VirtualScriptAlias, but that doesn't
> work for all the duplicated lines.
>=20
> NameVirtualHost 192.168.21.21
> <VirtualHost 192.168.21.21>
>  DocumentRoot	/home/foo/www
>  ServerName	www.foo.com
>  ServerAdmin	webmaster@foo.com
>  ErrorLog	/home/foo/logs/error.log
>  TransferLog	/home/foo/logs/access.log
>  ScriptAlias	/cgi-bin/ /home/foo/cgi-bin/
> </VirtualHost>
> <IfDefine SSL>
>  <VirtualHost 192.168.21.21:443>
>    DocumentRoot	/home/foo/www
>    ServerName	www.foo.com
>    ServerAdmin	webmaster@foo.com
>    ErrorLog	/home/foo/logs/error.log
>    TransferLog	/home/foo/logs/access.log
>    ScriptAlias	/cgi-bin/ /home/foo/cgi-bin/
>    SSLEngine			on
>    SSLCertificateFile		/home/foo/ssl/ssl.crt
>    SSLCertificateKeyFile	/home/foo/ssl/ssl.key
>  </VirtualHost>
> </IfDefine>
>=20
> What I'd like to be able to do is something like this instead.
>=20
> NameVirtualHost 192.168.21.21
> <VirtualHost 192.168.21.21>
>  DocumentRoot	/home/foo/www
>  ServerName	www.foo.com
>  ServerAdmin	webmaster@foo.com
>  ErrorLog	/home/foo/logs/error.log
>  TransferLog	/home/foo/logs/access.log
>  ScriptAlias	/cgi-bin/ /home/foo/cgi-bin/
>  <IfDefine SSL>
>   # The following will not work.
>   #<If Port =3D=3D 443>
>   # SSLEngine		on
>   # SSLCertficateFile	/home/foo/ssl/ssl.crt
>   # SSLCertficateKeyFile	/home/foo/ssl/ssl.key
>   #</If>
>  </IfDefine>
> </VirtualHost>
>=20
> Any suggestions?  Thanks.
>=20
> -steve
>=20
>=20
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From owner-freebsd-isp  Tue Sep 12 17:43:24 2000
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> You might think about creating some sort of file that has the
> specifics for each domain, and then write a nifty perl script that
> whips through it and generates your httpd.conf, inserting defaults or
> specifics as the case my be.

Or you could store your config in a database, and use mod_perl to
dynamically configure the server. I'm documenting this here:

http://renaud.waldura.com/doc/sql-unix/

NB: this document is a work in progress.

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> I'm suprised that we haven't heard the usual stuff about ssh being so much
> better than telnet that telnet should be shut off everywhere. - Jy@

Oh!

I'm all for for that! Telnet sucks! SSH is your friend, check it out:

http://www.openssh.com/


:)

-Steve


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From owner-freebsd-isp  Tue Sep 12 18:47:13 2000
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I did not see anyone respond with xinetd.  Is there something I
should know?  I know of the other packages, and have used both in
different scenarios, but it seemed to me that the easiest and
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Hi All,

I have an email address setup for incoming spam messages. What I want to do 
is take any emails coming in to that address, and modify the subject of the 
message before delivering it to its rightful owner.

I can make the sendmail.cf file detect the To: string with the line below.

HTo:       $>Check_To
D{Bazza}blah@foo.com

But I cant seem to find a way to make it take the subject line :
	Subject: Make your dreams come true
and add a string at the beginning of the subject :
	Subject: [SPAM] Make your dreams come true


Would anyone have any suggestions on how this may be done, or what to look 
at to find an answer.

Thanks in advance,

Pete!
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From owner-freebsd-isp  Tue Sep 12 22:41:12 2000
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Ahhh - okay, but my main problem is this.

I know that I can get the Subject by using HSubject: but I need to make it 
so that (possibly with a macro) the email is sent through, but has [SPAM] 
appended to the beginning of the Subject line.

Thats where I am having trouble finding a solution. I have an extensive 
sendmail book, but it really doesnt cover this kind of scenario as far as I 
can tell.

Thank you for your help,
Pete.

At 12:44 AM 13/09/00 -0500, you wrote:

>As far as I know from the Sendmail book that the HSubject: Field , the
>Field does not mean anthing. That means you can put anything in that field
>and Sendmail will alsways ignore it. But I think you can define a Macro
>probably,( I dont know how to do that).
>Another thing you can do is add another extra line to the header for
>example HComments: Field and put whatever comments you want. I think
>that's best idea.
>I hope this helps.
>
>Jahanur
>
>On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Pete MacGee wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have an email address setup for incoming spam messages. What I want 
> to do
> > is take any emails coming in to that address, and modify the subject of 
> the
> > message before delivering it to its rightful owner.
> >
> > I can make the sendmail.cf file detect the To: string with the line below.
> >
> > HTo:       $>Check_To
> > D{Bazza}blah@foo.com
> >
> > But I cant seem to find a way to make it take the subject line :
> >       Subject: Make your dreams come true
> > and add a string at the beginning of the subject :
> >       Subject: [SPAM] Make your dreams come true
> >
> >
> > Would anyone have any suggestions on how this may be done, or what to look
> > at to find an answer.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Pete!
> > --
> > Computers are just like air conditioners... They don't work properly if 
> you
> > open Windows.
> >
> >
> >
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>
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From owner-freebsd-isp  Tue Sep 12 22:43:28 2000
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I have to admit that I did not make any notes. I know I should have, but I
just gave up, went away and looked for an alternative method.

Sorry


Martyn Routley
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-----Original Message-----
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Martyn Routley Wrote:

> On the other hand...
>
> I could not make Scot's port work on my system.. Eventually, I abandoned
the
> ports and did everything from scratch using excellent instructions from
> devshed.com.

I would be interested to know where you ran into trouble.  This could be of
help to Scott as well as others.

Jim




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From owner-freebsd-isp  Tue Sep 12 23:14:48 2000
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Hi guys, howzit going ?

Do you have any ideas where I can find out what IP blocks are registered in
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The reason being that we need to limit our clients' access to international
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From: Rowan Crowe <rowan@sensation.net.au>
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Dave Wilson wrote:

> Hi guys, howzit going ?
> 
> Do you have any ideas where I can find out what IP blocks are registered in
> S.A ?
> The reason being that we need to limit our clients' access to international
> bandwidth with our traffic shaper. For this to happen I need to know what
> IP's are local to South Africa.

Just curious - why do you do this? Is there a technical reason (like being
charged more by your upstream for international traffic) or some other
reason?

Bear in mind that just because an IP range happens to be located in South
Africa, doesn't mean it's going to travel on local links only. People may
also use IP space allocated from elsewhere.

Cheers.


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From owner-freebsd-isp  Wed Sep 13  1:53: 4 2000
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Hi Rowan,

Thanks for getting back to me. ;-)
You see we use ipfw to limit our clients international bandwidth to what
ever they have purchased from us.... now the thing is that we need to find
South Africa's range of IP's so that we can limit all IP traffic except the
local IP's .

Regards
Dave Wilson
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 "Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular"

----- Original Message -----
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> On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Dave Wilson wrote:
>
> > Hi guys, howzit going ?
> >
> > Do you have any ideas where I can find out what IP blocks are registered
in
> > S.A ?
> > The reason being that we need to limit our clients' access to
international
> > bandwidth with our traffic shaper. For this to happen I need to know
what
> > IP's are local to South Africa.
>
> Just curious - why do you do this? Is there a technical reason (like being
> charged more by your upstream for international traffic) or some other
> reason?
>
> Bear in mind that just because an IP range happens to be located in South
> Africa, doesn't mean it's going to travel on local links only. People may
> also use IP space allocated from elsewhere.
>
> Cheers.
>
>
> --
> Rowan Crowe
http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/
> Sensation Internet Services
http://info.sensation.net.au/
> Melbourne, Australia                                 Phone:
+61-3-9388-9260
>
>
>
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Using the option static-routes in dhcpd.conf I'm able to get static routes
to DHCP clients, but the static routes have a netmask of 255.255.255.255.
Is it possible to specify a different netmask for the static routes?  I'm
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Hello all,

I have a BSD with 2 ethernet NICs and there's
the possibility of connecting those cards to 2 different
routers.  I would to know how do I make the machine resistent
to the failure of one of the routers?  I think this is possible
using layer 2 or/and 3 technics?

thanks,
jp

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From owner-freebsd-isp  Wed Sep 13 17:45:26 2000
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On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 02:50:30PM -0400, Mike wrote:

 > I am putting a FreeBSD box together for our dialup customers to have shell 
 > access. What do I need to do to "harden" this server to keep users out of 
 > trouble with the system, and with each other?

Disable shell access :-)

   - mark

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From: "mike" <mdickerson@officeonweb.net>
> I put this on -questions a while back and didn't get any responses so I'll
> try it here.
>
> I'm trying to install fp extensions from the ports collection (and in
> general).
>
> I'm running 3.5 STABLE w/ apache 1.3.12.
>
> I go to the /usr/ports/www/apache-fp to do the make. It fetches the
> "something.bsdi.something.Z" and proceeds. It gets to:
> ===> Patching for apache_fp-1.3.12
> ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for apache_fp-1.3.12
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>
Remove the patch for change_server.sh, then do a make clean.

The port should now install without any more problems.

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On 13 Sep 2000 13:22:03 -0400, in sentex.lists.freebsd.isp you wrote:

>
>Hello all,
>
>I have a BSD with 2 ethernet NICs and there's
>the possibility of connecting those cards to 2 different
>routers.  I would to know how do I make the machine resistent
>to the failure of one of the routers?  I think this is possible
>using layer 2 or/and 3 technics?

Use a routing protocol such as RIP, RIPng, OSPF, or iBGP. A few options,
zebra, gated, mrt, routed.  

	---Mike
Mike Tancsa  (mdtancsa@sentex.net)		
Sentex Communications Corp,   		
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From owner-freebsd-isp  Thu Sep 14  1: 5:18 2000
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Hi there

Has anybody got an LMC1200P T1/E1 card run at E1 speeds?

I've just some these and should deploy them fairly quickly but as it
looks the default is only T1 1.5Mbit/s.

I installed FreeBSD 3.5.1 and the driver patches apply cleanly to the
kernel and compile as well. No problem in that area.

Now the lmcctl program is not of much help because it only knows of
T1 lines.

Yesterday I called LanMedia support but only got a voicemail box, I
left a message but received no call back yet (will I ever?).

So in the mean time stuck with what I have here. So far I was looking
through the dirver sources and managed to change the default
initialization from T1 to E1 but the clock speed still stays at 1.5M
instead of 2Meg for E1.

If anybody has got these beasts to run at E1 speeds it would be great
if you could tell me how much arm twisting (to the drivers source or
to LanMedia) it takes to get it working.

Any other helpful ideas welcome as well of course!

Cheers
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Hello Andre,

I tried the LMC 1200 a vew weeks ago. I had contact with one of the
developers at LMC. So far they neither support FreeBSD4 nor E1 (on the
software side!). But he got some E1 equipment and they are working on =
E1
support.
I don't know what the current status is. Just contact LMC support, they =
are
very helpful and will give you the contact.

Best Rgards,

Harry

belenus GmbH
Harald Schmalzbauer
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> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Andre Oppermann [mailto:oppermann@telehouse.ch]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. September 2000 10:05
> An: freebsd-net@freebsd.org; freebsd-isp@freebsd.org
> Betreff: Anybody got LMC1200 card run at E1 speed?
>=20
>=20
> Hi there
>=20
> Has anybody got an LMC1200P T1/E1 card run at E1 speeds?
>=20
> I've just some these and should deploy them fairly quickly but as it
> looks the default is only T1 1.5Mbit/s.
>=20
> I installed FreeBSD 3.5.1 and the driver patches apply cleanly to the
> kernel and compile as well. No problem in that area.
>=20
> Now the lmcctl program is not of much help because it only knows of
> T1 lines.
>=20
> Yesterday I called LanMedia support but only got a voicemail box, I
> left a message but received no call back yet (will I ever?).
>=20
> So in the mean time stuck with what I have here. So far I was looking
> through the dirver sources and managed to change the default
> initialization from T1 to E1 but the clock speed still stays at 1.5M
> instead of 2Meg for E1.
>=20
> If anybody has got these beasts to run at E1 speeds it would be great
> if you could tell me how much arm twisting (to the drivers source or
> to LanMedia) it takes to get it working.
>=20
> Any other helpful ideas welcome as well of course!
>=20
> Cheers
> --=20
> Andre
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From owner-freebsd-isp  Thu Sep 14  2: 9:21 2000
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"Schmalzbauer, Harald" wrote:
> 
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> 
> Hello Andre,

Hi Harry,

> I tried the LMC 1200 a vew weeks ago. I had contact with one of the
> developers at LMC. So far they neither support FreeBSD4 nor E1 (on the
> software side!). But he got some E1 equipment and they are working on E1
> support.

That they've got no support for FreeBSD 4 is ok with me, I can live
with 3.5.1. What hurts me is the lack of support for E1 because in
their product description they claim to support it and thats why I
got these cards...

> I don't know what the current status is. Just contact LMC support, they are
> very helpful and will give you the contact.

OK, I'll try again to reach someone there.

Thanks a lot for this information
-- 
Andre


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This was in my security check message this morning.  I have a BT958 PCI
controller in this machine and am confused by this message.  The system
seems to be running ok, and I can find no error messages in
/var/log/messages.

> Intel PIIX4 Bus-master IDE controller> rev 0x01 on pci0.2.1

Any ideas?

I know this is off topic, but I always get answers on this list.

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I noticed that make is suid root.
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Is that supposed to be? Would it still work for users if it wasn't?



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On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 08:33:28PM -0400, Mike wrote:
> I noticed that make is suid root.
> -rwxr-sr-x    1 root             kmem               442384 Aug 25 05:51 
> /usr/local/bin/make

[hawk-billf] /home/billf/postfix-current > ls -l =make
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  97120 Jul 14 00:17 /usr/bin/make*

> Is that supposed to be? Would it still work for users if it wasn't?

No, it shouldn't be.
Yes, it does.

I'd suspect that your machine has had a compromise, if I were you.

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Just set up that box not too long ago, and was just going through taking 
out all the suid stuff.. I'm the only person with access to the box, so I'm 
doubting compromise.
This is what I had for "find / -perm -2000 -ls" after a fresh install and 
cvsup.

   8027  190 -r-sr-sr-x    1 uucp             dialer              96540 Jul 
30 00:46 /usr/bin/uustat
   8073   26 -r-xr-s---    1 root             kmem                12900 Jul 
30 00:49 /usr/bin/fstat
   8088   20 -r-xr-s---    1 root             kmem                 9624 Jul 
30 00:49 /usr/bin/ipcs
   8135  166 -r-xr-s---    1 root             kmem                84448 Jul 
30 00:49 /usr/bin/netstat
   8137   20 -r-xr-s---    1 root             kmem                 9660 Jul 
30 00:49 /usr/bin/nfsstat
   8172  112 -r-xr-s---    1 root             kmem                56392 Jul 
30 00:49 /usr/bin/systat
   8182   64 -r-xr-s---    1 root             kmem                32136 Jul 
30 00:49 /usr/bin/top
   8204   34 -r-xr-s---    1 root             kmem                16392 Jul 
30 00:49 /usr/bin/vmstat
   8214   16 -r-xr-s---    1 root             tty                  7288 Jul 
30 00:49 /usr/bin/write
3190413  448 -r-sr-sr-x    1 uucp             dialer             220460 Jul 
30 00:46 /usr/libexec/uucp/uucico
3190414  224 -r-sr-s---    1 uucp             uucp                99340 Jul 
30 00:46 /usr/libexec/uucp/uuxqt
6317475  896 -rwxr-sr-x    1 root             kmem               442384 Aug 
25 05:51 /usr/local/bin/make

At 08:35 PM 9/14/2000 -0400, Bill Fumerola wrote:
>On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 08:33:28PM -0400, Mike wrote:
> > I noticed that make is suid root.
> > -rwxr-sr-x    1 root             kmem               442384 Aug 25 05:51
> > /usr/local/bin/make
>
>[hawk-billf] /home/billf/postfix-current > ls -l =make
>-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  97120 Jul 14 00:17 /usr/bin/make*
>
> > Is that supposed to be? Would it still work for users if it wasn't?
>
>No, it shouldn't be.
>Yes, it does.
>
>I'd suspect that your machine has had a compromise, if I were you.
>
>--
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>                 billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org
>
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(forgot to mention that I had taken out the user exec permissions before 
doing the listing)

At 08:43 PM 9/14/2000 -0400, Mike wrote:
>Just set up that box not too long ago, and was just going through taking 
>out all the suid stuff.. I'm the only person with access to the box, so 
>I'm doubting compromise.
>This is what I had for "find / -perm -2000 -ls" after a fresh install and 
>cvsup.
>
>   8027  190 -r-sr-sr-x    1 uucp             dialer              96540 
> Jul 30 00:46 /usr/bin/uustat
>   8073   26 -r-xr-s---    1 root             kmem                12900 
> Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/fstat
>   8088   20 -r-xr-s---    1 root             kmem                 9624 
> Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/ipcs
>   8135  166 -r-xr-s---    1 root             kmem                84448 
> Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/netstat
>   8137   20 -r-xr-s---    1 root             kmem                 9660 
> Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/nfsstat
>   8172  112 -r-xr-s---    1 root             kmem                56392 
> Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/systat
>   8182   64 -r-xr-s---    1 root             kmem                32136 
> Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/top
>   8204   34 -r-xr-s---    1 root             kmem                16392 
> Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/vmstat
>   8214   16 -r-xr-s---    1 root             tty                  7288 
> Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/write
>3190413  448 -r-sr-sr-x    1 uucp             dialer             220460 
>Jul 30 00:46 /usr/libexec/uucp/uucico
>3190414  224 -r-sr-s---    1 uucp             uucp                99340 
>Jul 30 00:46 /usr/libexec/uucp/uuxqt
>6317475  896 -rwxr-sr-x    1 root             kmem               442384 
>Aug 25 05:51 /usr/local/bin/make
>
>At 08:35 PM 9/14/2000 -0400, Bill Fumerola wrote:
>>On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 08:33:28PM -0400, Mike wrote:
>> > I noticed that make is suid root.
>> > -rwxr-sr-x    1 root             kmem               442384 Aug 25 05:51
>> > /usr/local/bin/make
>>
>>[hawk-billf] /home/billf/postfix-current > ls -l =make
>>-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  97120 Jul 14 00:17 /usr/bin/make*
>>
>> > Is that supposed to be? Would it still work for users if it wasn't?
>>
>>No, it shouldn't be.
>>Yes, it does.
>>
>>I'd suspect that your machine has had a compromise, if I were you.
>>
>>--
>>Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc.
>>                 billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org
>>
>>
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On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Mike wrote:

> Just set up that box not too long ago, and was just going through taking 
> out all the suid stuff.. I'm the only person with access to the box, so I'm 
> doubting compromise.
> This is what I had for "find / -perm -2000 -ls" after a fresh install and 
> cvsup.
> 
>    8027  190 -r-sr-sr-x    1 uucp             dialer              96540 Jul 
> 30 00:46 /usr/bin/uustat

*snip*

> 6317475  896 -rwxr-sr-x    1 root             kmem               442384 Aug 
> 25 05:51 /usr/local/bin/make
> 

Also note this make is in /usr/local/bin.  A default installation doesn't
(shouldn't) install any files in /usr/local/*.

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now that you mention it, it seems like I did an installation of make 
downloaded from the gnu site as well..

At 08:49 PM 9/14/2000 -0400, Chris D. Faulhaber wrote:
>On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Mike wrote:
>
> > Just set up that box not too long ago, and was just going through taking
> > out all the suid stuff.. I'm the only person with access to the box, so 
> I'm
> > doubting compromise.
> > This is what I had for "find / -perm -2000 -ls" after a fresh install and
> > cvsup.
> >
> >    8027  190 -r-sr-sr-x    1 uucp             dialer              96540 
> Jul
> > 30 00:46 /usr/bin/uustat
>
>*snip*
>
> > 6317475  896 -rwxr-sr-x    1 root             kmem               442384 
> Aug
> > 25 05:51 /usr/local/bin/make
> >
>
>Also note this make is in /usr/local/bin.  A default installation doesn't
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Bill Fumerola wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 08:33:28PM -0400, Mike wrote:
> > I noticed that make is suid root.
> > -rwxr-sr-x    1 root             kmem               442384 Aug 25 05:51 
> > /usr/local/bin/make
> 
> I'd suspect that your machine has had a compromise, if I were you.

I'm betting the same, too. That file size looks *very* similar to
4.x's /bin/sh, in fact.

(And that's sgid, not suid, by the way.)

Make normally lives in /usr/bin, not /usr/local/bin; gmake installs
as /usr/local/bin/gmake.
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one more "stupid" question for ya.. hehe.. which of these NEED to be suid 
to run right?
And do I NEED the uucp stuff?

-r-sr-xr-x    1 uucp   wheel     87984 Jul 30 00:46 /usr/bin/uucp
-r-sr-xr-x    1 uucp   wheel     37100 Jul 30 00:46 /usr/bin/uuname
-r-sr-sr-x    1 uucp   dialer    96540 Jul 30 00:46 /usr/bin/uustat
-r-sr-xr-x    1 uucp   wheel     88600 Jul 30 00:46 /usr/bin/uux
-r-sr-xr-x    1 man    wheel     28304 Jul 30 00:47 /usr/bin/man
-r-sr-xr-x    6 root   wheel     31972 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/chpass
-r-sr-xr-x    6 root   wheel     31972 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/chfn
-r-sr-xr-x    6 root   wheel     31972 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/chsh
-r-sr-xr-x    6 root   wheel     31972 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/ypchpass
-r-sr-xr-x    6 root   wheel     31972 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/ypchfn
-r-sr-xr-x    6 root   wheel     31972 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/ypchsh
-r-sr-x---    1 root   wheel       510 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/keyinfo
-r-sr-x---    1 root   wheel      7232 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/keyinit
-r-sr-x---    1 root   wheel      6792 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/lock
-r-sr-xr-x    1 root   wheel     19556 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/login
-r-sr-xr-x    2 root   wheel     26260 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/passwd
-r-sr-xr-x    2 root   wheel     26260 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/yppasswd
-r-sr-x---    1 root   wheel     10232 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/quota
-r-sr-xr-x    1 root   wheel      9976 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/rlogin
-r-sr-xr-x    1 root   wheel      7372 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/rsh
-r-sr-x---    1 root   wheel      7960 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/su
-r-sr-xr-x    1 root   wheel     23912 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/crontab
-r-sr-xr-x    2 root   wheel    146972 Jul 30 00:50 /usr/bin/ssh
-r-sr-xr-x    2 root   wheel    146972 Jul 30 00:50 /usr/bin/slogin
-r-sr-xr-x    1 root   wheel    316348 Jul 30 00:50 
/usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail
-r-sr-sr-x    1 uucp   dialer   220460 Jul 30 00:46 /usr/libexec/uucp/uucico
-r-sr-s---    1 uucp   uucp      99340 Jul 30 00:46 /usr/libexec/uucp/uuxqt
-r-sr-xr-x    1 root   wheel     16156 Jul 30 00:48 /usr/libexec/mail.local
-rws--x--x    1 root   wheel    143836 Jul 21 22:56 /usr/local/bin/ssh1
-rwsr-xr-x    1 root   wheel      6016 Jul 24 00:18 /usr/local/bin/chm

I really appreciate the help..
Mike



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After "fresh install and cvsup" you shouldn't have anything in /usr/local,
IITC (If I'm Thinking Correctly)
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On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Mike wrote:

> Just set up that box not too long ago, and was just going through taking 
> out all the suid stuff.. I'm the only person with access to the box, so I'm 
> doubting compromise.
> This is what I had for "find / -perm -2000 -ls" after a fresh install and 
> cvsup.
> 
>    8027  190 -r-sr-sr-x    1 uucp             dialer              96540 Jul 
> 30 00:46 /usr/bin/uustat
>    8073   26 -r-xr-s---    1 root             kmem                12900 Jul 
> 30 00:49 /usr/bin/fstat
>    8088   20 -r-xr-s---    1 root             kmem                 9624 Jul 
> 30 00:49 /usr/bin/ipcs
>    8135  166 -r-xr-s---    1 root             kmem                84448 Jul 
> 30 00:49 /usr/bin/netstat
>    8137   20 -r-xr-s---    1 root             kmem                 9660 Jul 
> 30 00:49 /usr/bin/nfsstat
>    8172  112 -r-xr-s---    1 root             kmem                56392 Jul 
> 30 00:49 /usr/bin/systat
>    8182   64 -r-xr-s---    1 root             kmem                32136 Jul 
> 30 00:49 /usr/bin/top
>    8204   34 -r-xr-s---    1 root             kmem                16392 Jul 
> 30 00:49 /usr/bin/vmstat
>    8214   16 -r-xr-s---    1 root             tty                  7288 Jul 
> 30 00:49 /usr/bin/write
> 3190413  448 -r-sr-sr-x    1 uucp             dialer             220460 Jul 
> 30 00:46 /usr/libexec/uucp/uucico
> 3190414  224 -r-sr-s---    1 uucp             uucp                99340 Jul 
> 30 00:46 /usr/libexec/uucp/uuxqt
> 6317475  896 -rwxr-sr-x    1 root             kmem               442384 Aug 
> 25 05:51 /usr/local/bin/make
> 
> At 08:35 PM 9/14/2000 -0400, Bill Fumerola wrote:
> >On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 08:33:28PM -0400, Mike wrote:
> > > I noticed that make is suid root.
> > > -rwxr-sr-x    1 root             kmem               442384 Aug 25 05:51
> > > /usr/local/bin/make
> >
> >[hawk-billf] /home/billf/postfix-current > ls -l =make
> >-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  97120 Jul 14 00:17 /usr/bin/make*
> >
> > > Is that supposed to be? Would it still work for users if it wasn't?
> >
> >No, it shouldn't be.
> >Yes, it does.
> >
> >I'd suspect that your machine has had a compromise, if I were you.
> >
> >--
> >Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc.
> >                 billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org
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On Thu 2000-09-14 (20:33), Mike wrote:
> I noticed that make is suid root.
> -rwxr-sr-x    1 root             kmem               442384 Aug 25 05:51 
> /usr/local/bin/make
> 
> Is that supposed to be? Would it still work for users if it wasn't?

You installed GNU make without using the port, I think.

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On Thu 2000-09-14 (21:12), Mike wrote:
> one more "stupid" question for ya.. hehe.. which of these NEED to be suid 
> to run right?
> And do I NEED the uucp stuff?

Probably not.

> -r-sr-xr-x    1 uucp   wheel     87984 Jul 30 00:46 /usr/bin/uucp
> -r-sr-xr-x    1 uucp   wheel     37100 Jul 30 00:46 /usr/bin/uuname
> -r-sr-sr-x    1 uucp   dialer    96540 Jul 30 00:46 /usr/bin/uustat
> -r-sr-xr-x    1 uucp   wheel     88600 Jul 30 00:46 /usr/bin/uux

No particular reason to worry about the above, just chmod 0 them for
paranoia.

> -r-sr-xr-x    1 man    wheel     28304 Jul 30 00:47 /usr/bin/man

Could use sgid man and gid-man owned-and-writeable catx directories.

> -r-sr-xr-x    6 root   wheel     31972 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/chpass
> -r-sr-xr-x    6 root   wheel     31972 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/chfn
> -r-sr-xr-x    6 root   wheel     31972 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/chsh
> -r-sr-xr-x    6 root   wheel     31972 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/ypchpass
> -r-sr-xr-x    6 root   wheel     31972 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/ypchfn
> -r-sr-xr-x    6 root   wheel     31972 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/ypchsh

These are required if you want users to be able to change their account
information (shell, &c.).

> -r-sr-x---    1 root   wheel       510 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/keyinfo
> -r-sr-x---    1 root   wheel      7232 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/keyinit

This is for opie.

> -r-sr-x---    1 root   wheel      6792 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/lock

Only needed for reading the root and/or user password to unlock a
terminal - user if using lock -p.  (What sane person types in the root
password to unlock a terminal when another user ran the command?)

> -r-sr-xr-x    1 root   wheel     19556 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/login

Not incredibly sure about this requirement.

> -r-sr-xr-x    2 root   wheel     26260 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/passwd
> -r-sr-xr-x    2 root   wheel     26260 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/yppasswd

Change passwords for users.  Occasionally useful. ;)

> -r-sr-x---    1 root   wheel     10232 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/quota

View quotas.  Either set permissions like that, or just remove the suid.

> -r-sr-xr-x    1 root   wheel      9976 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/rlogin
> -r-sr-xr-x    1 root   wheel      7372 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/rsh

Nuke.

> -r-sr-x---    1 root   wheel      7960 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/su

I tend to use the same permissions you've set here.

> -r-sr-xr-x    1 root   wheel     23912 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/crontab

If you want your users to be able to schedule cron jobs, it's needed.  I
don't usually, so I tend to remove it.

> -r-sr-xr-x    2 root   wheel    146972 Jul 30 00:50 /usr/bin/ssh
> -r-sr-xr-x    2 root   wheel    146972 Jul 30 00:50 /usr/bin/slogin

Suid not needed except for certain cases, which you'd know about if you
needed it.

> -r-sr-xr-x    1 root   wheel    316348 Jul 30 00:50 
> /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail

I don't use sendmail.  chmod 0 it if you don't either.

> -r-sr-sr-x    1 uucp   dialer   220460 Jul 30 00:46 /usr/libexec/uucp/uucico
> -r-sr-s---    1 uucp   uucp      99340 Jul 30 00:46 /usr/libexec/uucp/uuxqt

Useless if you don't use uucp.  Nuke it.

> -r-sr-xr-x    1 root   wheel     16156 Jul 30 00:48 /usr/libexec/mail.local

Needed for mail delivery in certain esoteric cases.  I don't use
sendmail, so it's not a concern.

> -rws--x--x    1 root   wheel    143836 Jul 21 22:56 /usr/local/bin/ssh1

You already have ssh in base - should be able to nuke this.

> -rwsr-xr-x    1 root   wheel      6016 Jul 24 00:18 /usr/local/bin/chm

Not sure where this comes from.  If you don't either, probably a good
idea to remove the suid.

You're missing 'at'/'atq'/'batch'.  Only necessary if you let users have
at jobs.  System default is to deny at jobs to users anyway, so I tend
to remove suid from them.

Neil
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> > -r-sr-xr-x    1 root   wheel     19556 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/login
> 
> Not incredibly sure about this requirement.

Wouldn't this be needed to read the encrypted passwords from /etc/master.passwd?





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> > > -r-sr-xr-x    1 root   wheel     19556 Jul 30 00:49 /usr/bin/login
> > 
> > Not incredibly sure about this requirement.
> 
> Wouldn't this be needed to read the encrypted passwords from /etc/master.passwd?

/usr/bin/login *only* needs to be setuid root to allow a direct "login"
from one user to another. Under normal circumstances /usr/bin/login is
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Does anyone know of a tool that given a username and quota, will trim a 
mail box by deleting the oldest message until it is at the quota?  

Thank you in advance,
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Yep Perl.

Some assembly required.

Something like:

(Pseudocode)

Actual working code is left as an exercise to the reader..

  stat (mailspool)
  if (length>quota)
  {
    open OUTPUT "temporaryfile"
    open INPUT  "mailspool"
    fseek INPUT, length-quota;
    $foundheading=0;
    $lastwasblank=0;
    while (<INPUT>)
    {
      chomp;
      if ($foundheading)
      {
        print OUTPUT $_;
      }
      elsif (($lastwasblank)&&(/^From /))
      {
        print OUTPUT $_;
        $foundheading=1;
      }
      elsif (/^$/)
      {
        $lastwasblank=1
      }
      else
      {
        $lastwasblank=0;
      }
    }
    close INPUT;
    close OUTPUT;
    rename "mailspool","mailspool.old" or die "could not rename: $!";
    rename "temporaryfile","mailspool" or die " could not rename: $!";
    unlink "mailspool.old";
  }
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(if you'd like to pay me to make this actually work, let me know :)

On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Matt Goward wrote:

> Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 13:07:08 -0400
> From: Matt Goward <mgoward@eviloverlord.org>
> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Mail box trimming tool
> 
> Does anyone know of a tool that given a username and quota, will trim a 
> mail box by deleting the oldest message until it is at the quota?  
> 
> Thank you in advance,
>   Matt Goward
>   eviloverlord.org
> 
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On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 01:07:08PM -0400, Matt Goward wrote:
> Does anyone know of a tool that given a username and quota, will trim a 
> mail box by deleting the oldest message until it is at the quota?  

It doesn't compare the quota, but this is what I use to age my mailboxes:

#!/usr/local/bin/perl
eval "exec /usr/contrib/bin/perl -S $0 $*"
    if $running_under_some_shell;

$| = 1;

if ($#ARGV != 2) {
    print "Usage: $0 folder_dir archive_dir days_to_keep\n";
    exit(1);
}

#  If archive_dir == /dev/null, toss messages
$toss = 0;
$folder_dir = $ARGV[0];
$archive_dir = $ARGV[1];
if ($archive_dir eq "/dev/null") {
    $toss = 1;
}

$keep_days = $ARGV[2];
if ($keep_days =~ /[^0-9]/) {
    print STDERR "Number of days parameter must be numeric.\n";
    exit(1);
}
$keep_time = $keep_days * 24 * 3600;
$cur_time = time;

unless (opendir(FOLDERS, $folder_dir)) {
    print STDERR "Can't open '$folder_dir': $!\n";
    exit(1);
}

print;

while ($mbox = readdir(FOLDERS)) {
    $mailbox = $folder_dir . "/" . $mbox;
    if ( ! -f $mailbox ) {
	next;
    }

    print "\r$mbox...           ";
    $archive = $archive_dir . "/" . $mbox;
    $newbox = $folder_dir . "/$$." . $mbox;

    ($start_dev, $start_ino, $start_mode, $start_nlink, $start_uid, $start_gid,
     $start_rdev, $start_size, $start_atime, $start_mtime, $start_ctime,
     $start_blksize, $start_blocks) = stat($mailbox);

    unless (open(mailbox, "<$mailbox")) {
        print STDERR "Can't read $mailbox: $!\n";
	exit(1);
    }
    unless (open(newbox, ">$newbox")) {
        print STDERR "Can't write to $newbox: $!\n";
	exit(1);
    }
    if (!$toss) {
	unless (open(archive, ">>$archive")) {
	    print STDERR "Can't append to $archive: $!\n";
	    exit(1);
	}
    }

    #  In case there's junk in front of the first From...
    $arch_it = 1;
    while (<mailbox>) {
	if (/^From /) {
	    $msg_time = do parse_date($_);
	    if ($cur_time - $msg_time < $keep_time) {
		$arch_it = 0;
	    } else {
		$arch_it = 1;
	    }
	}
	if ($arch_it == 0) {
	    print newbox $_ || die "Write to $newbox failed: $!\n";
	} else {
	    if (!$toss) {
		print archive $_ || die "Write to $archive failed: $!\n";
	    }
	}
    }

    close(mailbox);
    close(newbox);
    if (!$toss) {
	close(archive);
    }

    ($stop_dev, $stop_ino, $stop_mode, $stop_nlink, $stop_uid, $stop_gid,
     $stop_rdev, $stop_size, $stop_atime, $stop_mtime, $stop_ctime,
     $stop_blksize, $stop_blocks) = stat($mailbox);

    if ($stop_mtime > $start_mtime) {
	print STDERR "$mailbox was modified after start of archive ---\n";
	print STDERR "Updated version left in $newbox.\n";
	exit(1);
    }

    unless (unlink($mailbox)) {
	print STDERR "Unable to unlink $mailbox: $!\n";
	exit(1);
    }

    if (!$toss) {
	if ( -z $archive ) {
	    unless (unlink($archive)) {
		print STDERR "Can't unlink empty archive '$archive': $!\n";
		exit(1);
	    }
	}
    }

    if ( -s $newbox ) {
	unless (link($newbox, $mailbox)) {
	    print STDERR "Unable to link $newbox to $mailbox: $!\n";
	    exit(1);
	}
    }

    unlink($newbox);
    # print "done\n";
}

print "\n";
exit(0);

#  Process From_ lines to get the number of days since Jan. 1, 1970:
#
#  From aahz!batie Fri Aug  3 08:30:41 1990

sub parse_date {
    local($from_space) = $_;
    
    $month_tbl{"Jan"} = 0;
    $month_tbl{"Feb"} = 1;
    $month_tbl{"Mar"} = 2;
    $month_tbl{"Apr"} = 3;
    $month_tbl{"May"} = 4;
    $month_tbl{"Jun"} = 5;
    $month_tbl{"Jul"} = 6;
    $month_tbl{"Aug"} = 7;
    $month_tbl{"Sep"} = 8;
    $month_tbl{"Oct"} = 9;
    $month_tbl{"Nov"} = 10;
    $month_tbl{"Dec"} = 11;

    $days_so_far{"Jan"} = 0;
    $days_so_far{"Feb"} = 31;
    $days_so_far{"Mar"} = 59;
    $days_so_far{"Apr"} = 90;
    $days_so_far{"May"} = 120;
    $days_so_far{"Jun"} = 151;
    $days_so_far{"Jul"} = 181;
    $days_so_far{"Aug"} = 212;
    $days_so_far{"Sep"} = 243;
    $days_so_far{"Oct"} = 273;
    $days_so_far{"Nov"} = 304;
    $days_so_far{"Dec"} = 334;

    $sec_per_year = 31536000;
    $sec_per_day = 86400;
    $sec_per_hour = 3600;
    $sec_per_minute = 60;
    $timezone = 8;

    ($d1, $d2, $d3, $month, $day, $time, $year) = split(/ +/, $from_space);
    ($hours, $minutes, $seconds) = split(/:/, $time);
    $month_num = $month_tbl{$month};

    #  determine the number of seconds since the beginning of the universe
    $clock = ($year - 1970) * $sec_per_year;
    if ($month ne "Jan") {
	$clock = $clock + $days_so_far{$month} * $sec_per_day;
    }
    $clock = $clock + ($day - 1) * $sec_per_day;
    $clock = $clock + $hours * $sec_per_hour;
    $clock = $clock + $minutes * $sec_per_minute;
    $clock = $clock + $seconds;

    #  calculate in the leap year fudge factors
    if ($year gt 1971) {
	$fudge_days = 0;
	$fudge_days = int(($year - 1971) / 4);

	if (($year % 4) == 0 && ($month_num > 1)) {
	    $fudge_days++;
	}
	$clock = $clock + $fudge_days * $sec_per_day;
    }

    #  calculate in the time shift westward from Greenwich
    $clock = $clock + $timezone * $sec_per_hour;

    #  worry about daylight savings time
    ($d1, $d2, $d3, $d4, $d5, $d6, $d7, $d8, $isdst) = localtime(time);
    if ($isdst != 0) {
	$clock = $clock - $sec_per_hour;
    }
    return $clock;
}

-- 
Alan Batie                   ______    www.rdrop.com/users/alan      Me
alan@batie.org               \    /    www.qrd.org         The Triangle
PGPFP DE 3C 29 17 C0 49 7A    \  /     www.pgpi.com   The Weird Numbers
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 jpsp@rccn.net wrote:

> Hello all,
>=20
> I have a BSD with 2 ethernet NICs and there's
> the possibility of connecting those cards to 2 different
> routers.  I would to know how do I make the machine resistent
> to the failure of one of the routers?  I think this is possible
> using layer 2 or/and 3 technics?
>=20
> thanks,
> jp

  If both routers are Cisco you can configure HSRP, if they are not Cisco
you can see if VRRP is supported.  Both methods are handled completely on
the routers.  Basically you can configure either router to take over the
IP and MAC address of the other.

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Hi

I have finally succumbed and installed fp 2000 extensions

But they do not work (suprise suprise :-)

I am running freebsd4.1 and installed the apache port with fp

No error on install, if I run the "check" item in  it says check OK
fpsrvadm.exe

In the virtual hosts error log I get

/usr/home/vhost/web/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/_vti_rpc

MS knowledge base says it is caused by the UID  being  less than 11
and/or the GID being lower that 21. not so they are both higher than
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Does anyone here know if there will be a FreeBSD 3.5.1-STABLE branch? or
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From: "BSDI - ISP Mailing List" <staff4@woden.com>
> I have finally succumbed and installed fp 2000 extensions
>
> But they do not work (suprise suprise :-)
>
> I am running freebsd4.1 and installed the apache port with fp
>
> No error on install, if I run the "check" item in  it says check OK
> fpsrvadm.exe
>
> In the virtual hosts error log I get
>
> /usr/home/vhost/web/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/_vti_rpc
>
> MS knowledge base says it is caused by the UID  being  less than 11
> and/or the GID being lower that 21. not so they are both higher than
> that
>
> Any ideas ?
>
Your getting this error on a virtual web only or does it happen on the root web also?

If the problem is happening on the virtual web, then check /usr/local/sbin for suexec.  If it is there, then check your httpd.conf
file and check the User it needs to match the suexec user (suexec defaults to "www" user).

Also, make sure that their is a "www" user in your password file.

Scot






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> Does anyone here know if there will be a FreeBSD 3.5.1-STABLE branch? or
> is 3.5-STABLE all that there will ever be?. Thanks. -- Jonathan M. Slivko

The only thing likely to be committed to RELENG_3 is serious security 
things, and I'd be stunned if another release was cut.

4.1 is the way to go for stability now.

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