From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Sep 24 10:36:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from akademie3000.de (akademie3000.de [194.121.70.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4554137B422 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 10:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schlappy.mobile.tld ([12.128.181.239]) by akademie3000.de (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA04602; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 19:35:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from andre@localhost) by schlappy.mobile.tld (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e8OH2U408206; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 19:02:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andre) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 19:02:30 +0200 From: Andre Albsmeier To: Jim Weeks Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Disable write caching Message-ID: <20000924190230.A8029@schlappy.mobile.tld> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jim@siteplus.net on Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 09:51:34AM -0400 X-Echelon: BND CIA NSA Mossad KGB MI6 IRA detonator nuclear assault strike Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 18-Sep-2000 at 09:51:34 -0400, Jim Weeks wrote: > I have a Seagate Barracuda drive that is giving me a fit. There has been > some discussion on this list about disabling the write cache on these > drives. I remember that someone posted the procedure, but can't find it > in the archives. > > If anyone has that information I would appreciate a response. I am currently in the Dominican Republic with my laptop that doesn't have SCSI so I have to remember it from head... You have to edit a modepage to do this. It can be done with camcontrol modepage da0 -m 8 -P 3 -e For da0 you use your drive and for 8 the modepage number. Then you will get your editor launched and see an entry like: WCE: 1 This means that write caching is enabled. Change it to 0 and quit. You can launch the camcontrol again to see if the drive remebered the new setting. I think 8 is the correct number... If you have an Adaptec Controller with the latest BIOS (2.57.2) you can also set the WCE flag there in the SCSI select utility... -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Sep 24 11:30:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from beta.root-servers.ch (beta.root-servers.ch [195.49.33.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E5B5437B42C for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 11:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 39673 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2000 18:30:44 -0000 Received: from client75-185.hispeed.ch (HELO ATHLON-550) (62.2.75.185) by beta.root-servers.ch with SMTP; 24 Sep 2000 18:30:44 -0000 Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 20:33:44 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.46c) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <30104923351.20000924203344@buz.ch> To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: perl/chroot/sbox strangenesses.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I try to setup the sbox CGI wrapper (http://stein.cshl.org/software/sbox for our webservers but I've got a weird problem with it. Everything works just fine except for CGI scripts which use DBI: those generate, when equipped with CGI::Carp fatalsToBrowser, the following error: Software error: Callback called exit at /web/public_html/test2.cgi line 4. For help, please send mail to the webmaster (you@your.address), giving this error message and the time and date of the error. However, if I do a manual chroot and give it perl test.cgi as argument, it works as it should. Has anyone got any clue what's going on here? All other scripts I tested (including some using CGI.pm and other modules) do work without any problems. On a side note: what's the safest way to get PHP into a chroot like behaviour (e.g. jailing all users into their homedirs)? Should I compile it as CGI script and throw into the existing CGI jail? Best regards, Gabriel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Sep 24 11:41:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7BD837B424 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 11:41:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5268B6E2BFC for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 11:38:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veager.siteplus.net (user-38lc8e8.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.33.200]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05565; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 11:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 14:32:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Andre Albsmeier Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Disable write caching In-Reply-To: <20000924190230.A8029@schlappy.mobile.tld> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks, Your memory is certainly better than mine. You had it exactly right ;-) -- Jim Weeks On Sun, 24 Sep 2000, Andre Albsmeier wrote: > On Mon, 18-Sep-2000 at 09:51:34 -0400, Jim Weeks wrote: > > I have a Seagate Barracuda drive that is giving me a fit. There has been > > some discussion on this list about disabling the write cache on these > > drives. I remember that someone posted the procedure, but can't find it > > in the archives. > > > > If anyone has that information I would appreciate a response. > > I am currently in the Dominican Republic with my laptop that > doesn't have SCSI so I have to remember it from head... > > You have to edit a modepage to do this. It can be done with > > camcontrol modepage da0 -m 8 -P 3 -e > > For da0 you use your drive and for 8 the modepage number. Then > you will get your editor launched and see an entry like: > > WCE: 1 > > This means that write caching is enabled. Change it to 0 and > quit. You can launch the camcontrol again to see if the drive > remebered the new setting. > > I think 8 is the correct number... > > If you have an Adaptec Controller with the latest BIOS (2.57.2) > you can also set the WCE flag there in the SCSI select utility... > > -Andre > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Sep 24 12:22:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jasper.southwind.net (jasper.southwind.net [206.53.103.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3D737B422 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 12:22:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jasper.southwind.net (abcjr@jasper.southwind.net [206.53.103.7]) by jasper.southwind.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e8OJM8R06993 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 14:22:08 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 14:22:08 -0500 (CDT) From: "Arnold B. Cavazos, Jr." To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Using 'private net' IPs for WAN Addresses In-Reply-To: <3073B3378589D411B21600508BAF32AA01233F@EXCHANGE> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Here is a great description on why one should not use RFC 1918 addresses for inter-router links: http://www.worldgate.com/~marcs/mtu/ ---------------------------------------------------------- Arnold Cavazos, Jr. abcjr@southwind.net General Manager SouthWind Internet Access, Inc. A OneMain.com Company On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Nathan Williams wrote: >Considering the shortage of IP addresses under IPv4, I can only think of >good reasons for ISPs using private network addresses. Also, not being >accessible from the Internet can actually be a very good thing for ISPs, as >many of these addresses are routers which need to be secure and have a >minimal level of outside traffic. >Nathan Williams >nathanw@nils.lib.il.us > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Adrian Gonzalez [SMTP:adrianbsd@globalpc.net] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 1:37 PM >> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org >> Subject: Using 'private net' IPs for WAN Addresses >> >> >> Hello everyone >> >> Over the years I've seen several ISPs use 192.168.x.x or other of the IP >> ranges reserved for private networks as WAN adressess for point-to-point >> links on the Internet. >> >> Personally, I've always felt this to be a bad idea, but I can't come up >> with a compelling reason to convince people not to do it. Is there a >> reason not to? or is it just a matter of keeping apples and oranges in >> their respective baskets? >> >> The only thing I can come up with is that you can ping the routers in >> question from outside your own net if you use 'real' IPs. >> >> -Adrian >> >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Sep 24 16:48:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sneakerz.org (sneakerz.org [207.154.226.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150C737B422 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 16:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sneakerz.org (Postfix, from userid 1023) id B4DD55D007; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 18:47:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sneakerz.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E5F59206; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 18:47:54 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 18:47:54 -0500 (CDT) From: missnglnk To: "Forrest W. Christian" Cc: "Jonathan M. Slivko" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, Tom Subject: Re: Backround Proccess Limiter In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Whoops. jumped the gun, I saw 'process limiter', and thought about amounts, sorry about that...a restricted shell (rbash is what I can think of off head), a directory containing only the allowed programs to be executed, and a PATH configured by the administrator, here's the snippet from the bash manpage about its restricted shell mode: -- snip -- RESTRICTED SHELL If bash is started with the name rbash, or the -r option is supplied at invocation, the shell becomes restricted. A restricted shell is used to set up an environment more controlled than the standard shell. It behaves identi- cally to bash with the exception that the following are disallowed or not performed: o changing directories with cd o setting or unsetting the values of SHELL, PATH, ENV, or BASH_ENV o specifying command names containing / o specifying a file name containing a / as an argu- ment to the . builtin command o Specifying a filename containing a slash as an argument to the -p option to the hash builtin com- mand o importing function definitions from the shell envi- ronment at startup o parsing the value of SHELLOPTS from the shell envi- ronment at startup o redirecting output using the >, >|, <>, >&, &>, and >> redirection operators o using the exec builtin command to replace the shell with another command o adding or deleting builtin commands with the -f and -d options to the enable builtin command o specifying the -p option to the command builtin command o turning off restricted mode with set +r or set +o restricted. These restrictions are enforced after any startup files are read. When a command that is found to be a shell script is exe- cuted (see COMMAND EXECUTION above), rbash turns off any restrictions in the shell spawned to execute the script. -- snip -- Once again, sorry for jumping the gun, and good luck! -- missnglnk@sneakerz.org http://www.sneakerz.org/~missnglnk On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Forrest W. Christian wrote: > Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 23:23:48 -0600 (MDT) > From: Forrest W. Christian > To: missnglnk > Cc: Jonathan M. Slivko , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, > Tom > Subject: Re: Backround Proccess Limiter > > Forgive me for being ignorant, but how does this prevent someone from > running an unauthorized background process on a machine? > > If it has this capabibility it is either non-obvious or I'm being blind. > > -forrestc@imach.com > > On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, missnglnk wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 21:43:48 -0500 (CDT) > > From: missnglnk > > To: Jonathan M. Slivko > > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, Tom > > Subject: Re: Backround Proccess Limiter > > > > Umm, I'm surpoised, on one has come across user/process limits which are > > in the base system, see the login.conf(5) and the existing /etc/login.conf > > example, and you'll see why you don't need homegrown code, or any other > > extensions onto the system. > > -- > > missnglnk@sneakerz.org > > http://www.sneakerz.org/~missnglnk > > > > On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: > > > > > Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 22:30:25 -0400 > > > From: Jonathan M. Slivko > > > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, Tom > > > Subject: Re: Backround Proccess Limiter > > > > > > I agree. That is harsh. I was thinking of maybe a piece of homegrown code > > > that could do the job. Any ideas as to if someone has already done it in > > > FreeBSD? > > > > > > -- Jonathan M. Slivko > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Tom" > > > To: > > > Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 9:59 PM > > > Subject: Re: Backround Proccess Limiter > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 18:50:42 MDT, "Forrest W. Christian" writes: > > > > >On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> I'm trying to set up a machine so no eggdrop bots will be able to > > > > >> load, but BitchX and BNC sessions will load. I need some kind of > > > > >> proccess limiter of some kind to help acheive this task. Does anyone > > > > >> know if FreeBSD has one in it already? If so, where can I find it? > > > > > > > > > >Although it doesn't prevent the load, there is the option of killing all > > > > >of the user's processes when they logout... > > > > > > > > > >(Gotta be careful not to do this for the wrong user (i.e. root)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > You could also install the software you want them to run and then > > > > mount all user writable filesystems noexec, including homedirs. > > > > Harsh but it works. > > > > -- > > > > tom@unhooked.net ICQ - 16163541 > > > > Spam: the other white meat. AIM - twjansen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com > Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Sep 24 21:43:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 582B237B424 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 21:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13dPkC-0001Hx-00; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 21:19:56 -0700 Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 21:19:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Samplonius To: "Arnold B. Cavazos, Jr." Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Using 'private net' IPs for WAN Addresses In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 24 Sep 2000, Arnold B. Cavazos, Jr. wrote: > > Here is a great description on why one should not use RFC 1918 addresses > for inter-router links: > > http://www.worldgate.com/~marcs/mtu/ Wow... MTU path detection. Most routers use the same MTU on all interfaces, so it isn't a factor. Next, if you assign a /30 for every p2p interface, you can only achieve 50% utilization of the address space (2 used out of 4). That isn't enough to meet the threshold to get more address space. I know a a network provider that is numbering hundreds of p2p links just to free up address space because they don't meet the density requirements. Not to mention that IP based virtual web hosts are now a no-no too... Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Sep 24 22:26:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aspenworks.com (aspenworks.com [192.94.236.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9A337B422 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 22:26:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aspenworks.com (hh1127215.direcpc.com [206.71.127.215]) by aspenworks.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e8P5Q8x24650 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 23:26:09 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <39CEDEF9.A1298393@aspenworks.com> Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 23:13:29 -0600 From: Alex Reply-To: alex@aspenworks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: free Subject: Active Server Pages, blah! Cold Fusion, $$, Java Server Pages???? on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Once again. In a never ending search to satisfy our more sophisticated Web designers.. we are looking for a *solution* .. I'm tossing this out for general comments. Anyone know if Sun will ever make JavaServer Pages available on anything other than a Sun? While this isn't a strictly FreeBSD question, I will ask, has anyone tried the Solaris on x86? I ran it 4 year or more ago, and it blew.. Poor driver support, pretty stable, lacked some of the OS's features, those were reserved for the Sparc proc version. I'm guessing JavaServer stuff is not GPL'd.. :-) Cheers, -Alex Ain't life grand? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Sep 24 22:29:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [158.36.41.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E2C337B43C for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 22:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 98413 invoked by uid 1001); 25 Sep 2000 05:29:38 +0000 (GMT) To: tom@sdf.com Cc: abcjr@southwind.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Using 'private net' IPs for WAN Addresses From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 24 Sep 2000 21:19:54 -0700 (PDT)" References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.34.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 07:29:38 +0200 Message-ID: <98411.969859778@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Here is a great description on why one should not use RFC 1918 addresses > > for inter-router links: > > > > http://www.worldgate.com/~marcs/mtu/ > > Wow... MTU path detection. Most routers use the same MTU on all > interfaces, so it isn't a factor. Sorry, that's wrong. There are plenty of routers with 1500 byte Ethernet MTUs, and considerably higher MTUs on serial/ATM/SDH interfaces. > Next, if you assign a /30 for every p2p interface, you can only achieve > 50% utilization of the address space (2 used out of 4). That isn't enough > to meet the threshold to get more address space. I know a a network > provider that is numbering hundreds of p2p links just to free up address > space because they don't meet the density requirements. So you have only 50% utilization of the address space for your p-p links. Unless you are very different from other providers, this is going to be a very small fraction of your total address space. Not using RFC 1918 addresses for p-p links on the Internet is still good advice. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Sep 24 22:40:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.theinternet.com.au (zeus.theinternet.com.au [203.34.176.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0206E37B422 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 22:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from akm@localhost) by mail.theinternet.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA32057; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:36:38 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from akm) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:36:38 +1000 From: Andrew Kenneth Milton To: Alex Cc: free Subject: Re: Active Server Pages, blah! Cold Fusion, $$, Java Server Pages???? on FreeBSD Message-ID: <20000925153638.W40631@zeus.theinternet.com.au> References: <39CEDEF9.A1298393@aspenworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <39CEDEF9.A1298393@aspenworks.com>; from Alex on Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 11:13:29PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org +-------[ Alex ]---------------------- | | Once again. In a never ending search to satisfy our more sophisticated | Web designers.. we are looking for a *solution* .. | Enhydra works fine under FreeBSD. http://www.enhydra.org/ Tomcat also works fine in standalone mode. http://jakarta.apache.org/ (also available from java.sun.com). | I'm tossing this out for general comments. Anyone know if Sun will | ever make JavaServer Pages available on anything other than a Sun? You don't seem to have looked very far, if at all for a solution. -- Totally Holistic Enterprises Internet| P:+61 7 3870 0066 | Andrew Milton The Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd | F:+61 7 3870 4477 | ACN: 082 081 472 ABN: 83 082 081 472 | M:+61 416 022 411 | Carpe Daemon PO Box 837 Indooroopilly QLD 4068 |akm@theinternet.com.au| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Sep 24 22:42:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A0D37B422 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 22:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13dQf3-0001Kb-00; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 22:18:41 -0700 Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 22:18:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Samplonius To: sthaug@nethelp.no Cc: abcjr@southwind.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Using 'private net' IPs for WAN Addresses In-Reply-To: <98411.969859778@verdi.nethelp.no> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 sthaug@nethelp.no wrote: > > > Here is a great description on why one should not use RFC 1918 addresses > > > for inter-router links: > > > > > > http://www.worldgate.com/~marcs/mtu/ > > > > Wow... MTU path detection. Most routers use the same MTU on all > > interfaces, so it isn't a factor. > > Sorry, that's wrong. There are plenty of routers with 1500 byte Ethernet > MTUs, and considerably higher MTUs on serial/ATM/SDH interfaces. Then it is factor. Many networks have hundreds routers and not one with anything other than 1500. Besides an interior network lines link with >1500 MTU isn't going to lead to fragmentation if everything else is 1500. Serial, ATM, SDH, etc. aren't really an issue, because so few devices that originate traffic (ie. servers) live on them. However, gig ethernet is a major problem. > > Next, if you assign a /30 for every p2p interface, you can only achieve > > 50% utilization of the address space (2 used out of 4). That isn't enough > > to meet the threshold to get more address space. I know a a network > > provider that is numbering hundreds of p2p links just to free up address > > space because they don't meet the density requirements. > > So you have only 50% utilization of the address space for your p-p links. > Unless you are very different from other providers, this is going to be a > very small fraction of your total address space. It amounts to several /24s for a mid-size network. ARIN only allocates small blocks at a time now. That 50% drags the entire average down. You need at least at 80% density these days. If you are network provider, your IPs are either used on routers or for customer allocations. Trying to get customers to use their IPs properly is like herding cats. > Not using RFC 1918 addresses for p-p links on the Internet is still good > advice. Just not practical in todays IPv4 space starved Internet. > Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 25 1:41:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail-secure.toplink.net (mail-secure.toplink.net [195.2.171.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0226337B424 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 01:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.toplink.net (mail-scan.toplink.net [195.2.171.141]) by mail-secure.toplink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA54772; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:41:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-secure.toplink.net (mail-scan [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.toplink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04731; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:21:12 +0200 Received: from babylon.toplink.net (babylon.toplink.net [195.2.171.90]) by mail-secure.toplink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA54766; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:41:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (ck@localhost) by babylon.toplink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25109; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:41:40 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:41:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Christian Kratzer To: Tom Samplonius Cc: sthaug@nethelp.no, abcjr@southwind.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Using 'private net' IPs for WAN Addresses In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-NCC-RegID: de.toplink X-Spammer-Kill-Ratio: 75% X-Jihad: Will hunt down all cases of Spam and Net abuse. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Sun, 24 Sep 2000, Tom Samplonius wrote: > > On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 sthaug@nethelp.no wrote: > > > > > Here is a great description on why one should not use RFC 1918 addresses > > > > for inter-router links: > > > > > > > > http://www.worldgate.com/~marcs/mtu/ > > > > > > Wow... MTU path detection. Most routers use the same MTU on all > > > interfaces, so it isn't a factor. > > > > Sorry, that's wrong. There are plenty of routers with 1500 byte Ethernet > > MTUs, and considerably higher MTUs on serial/ATM/SDH interfaces. > > Then it is factor. Many networks have hundreds routers and not one with > anything other than 1500. Besides an interior network lines link with > >1500 MTU isn't going to lead to fragmentation if everything else is 1500. > Serial, ATM, SDH, etc. aren't really an issue, because so few devices that > originate traffic (ie. servers) live on them. However, gig ethernet is a > major problem. > > > > Next, if you assign a /30 for every p2p interface, you can only achieve > > > 50% utilization of the address space (2 used out of 4). That isn't enough > > > to meet the threshold to get more address space. I know a a network > > > provider that is numbering hundreds of p2p links just to free up address > > > space because they don't meet the density requirements. > > > > So you have only 50% utilization of the address space for your p-p links. > > Unless you are very different from other providers, this is going to be a > > very small fraction of your total address space. ripe understands the need for ptp links and counts networks used for /30s with 100% utilisation. Furthermore ripe uses the total ip's in your assignments to determine usage ratio of your allocations and does not go into the assignments to count your customers actually pingable ip's or similar ... Of course assignments are audited regularly when you get a new allocation but this is ok with me. Looks like we are very lucky to live in ripeland versus arinland ... Greetings Christian -- TopLink Internet Services GmbH ck@171.2.195.in-addr.arpa Christian Kratzer http://www.toplink.net/ Phone: +49 7032 2701-0 Fax: +49 7032 2701-19 FreeBSD spoken here! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 25 2:41:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1476737B42C for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 02:41:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA09557; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 02:41:40 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 02:41:40 -0600 (MDT) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: sthaug@nethelp.no Cc: tom@sdf.com, abcjr@southwind.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Using 'private net' IPs for WAN Addresses In-Reply-To: <98411.969859778@verdi.nethelp.no> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 sthaug@nethelp.no wrote: > So you have only 50% utilization of the address space for your p-p links. > Unless you are very different from other providers, this is going to be a > very small fraction of your total address space. Plus, you can use IP unnumbered if you're REALLY concerned about this. - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 25 2:51: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF2337B43E for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 02:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA09589; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 02:51:26 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 02:51:26 -0600 (MDT) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: Tom Samplonius Cc: sthaug@nethelp.no, abcjr@southwind.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Using 'private net' IPs for WAN Addresses In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 24 Sep 2000, Tom Samplonius wrote: > It amounts to several /24s for a mid-size network. ARIN only allocates > small blocks at a time now. That 50% drags the entire average down. You > need at least at 80% density these days. If you are network provider, > your IPs are either used on routers or for customer allocations. Trying > to get customers to use their IPs properly is like herding cats. The "wasted" addresses do not count against you - but instead for you. You should be reporting that all 4 addresses in a p-p link are in use: Base+0 - Network number Base+1 - My end of the link Base+2 - Customer end of the link Base+3 - Broadcast. - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 25 6: 2:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8CD37B676 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 05:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id OAA51578 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:45:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e8PCiON33760 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:44:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:44:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Leif Neland To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: what is icmp src 8 dst 0? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Last week I aired a problem where some hosts were unable to reach another in 80% of the time. It has now been determined that the almost unreachable server is behind a firewall, which doesn't like being sent icmp's with src port 8 to dst port 0, their consultant said. When it recieves such a packet, the firewall "hides itself" from all packets from that destination in 20 minutes. So the question is "what is icmp src 8 dst 0"? Is it a "legal" request? The source machines are running squid. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 25 6:10: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (serial1-2-velvet-brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFA237B424 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 06:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA32011 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 00:09:59 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 00:09:57 +1100 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what is icmp src 8 dst 0? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Leif Neland wrote: > Last week I aired a problem where some hosts were unable to reach another > in 80% of the time. > > It has now been determined that the almost unreachable server is behind a > firewall, which doesn't like being sent icmp's with src port 8 to dst port > 0, their consultant said. When it recieves such a packet, the firewall > "hides itself" from all packets from that destination in 20 minutes. > > So the question is "what is icmp src 8 dst 0"? He probably means ICMP type 8 code 0, which is an echo request (ping). ICMP does not have a concept of port numbers. An ICMP echo request is pretty harmless, so it must be a real paranoid firewall... > Is it a "legal" request? > > The source machines are running squid. Have a look in squid.conf for "ping", "pinger" and "icmp", that may give you some clues... from a quick look, it's something to do with measuring the number of hops and network latency to a host (parent/sibling?) which is used in the selection of who to fetch from. It doesn't appear to be on by default, so it's been specifically compiled in by someone. Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ Sensation Internet Services http://info.sensation.net.au/ Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 25 8:11: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from showcase.pdsys.com (showcase.pdsys.com [207.167.12.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E8037B422 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 08:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dooley ([24.108.11.34]) by showcase.pdsys.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-56457U100L100S0V35) with SMTP id com; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 08:52:56 -0600 From: "Jim Whitelaw" To: "alex@aspenworks.com" Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 09:10:11 -0600 Reply-To: "Jim Whitelaw" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows NT (4.0.1381;5) In-Reply-To: <39CEDEF9.A1298393@aspenworks.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Active Server Pages, blah! Cold Fusion, $$, Java Server Pages???? on FreeBSD Message-ID: <20000925145256703.AAA536@showcase.pdsys.com@dooley> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 23:13:29 -0600, Alex wrote: >I'm tossing this out for general comments. Anyone know if Sun will >ever make JavaServer Pages available on anything other than a Sun? You want to look at the Tomcat project here: http://jakarta.apache.org/ >I'm guessing JavaServer stuff is not GPL'd.. :-) Not GPL, the Apache License. Sun is still responsible for the Servlet and JSP specs themselves, but the reference implementation (Tomcat) is open source. http://jakarta.apache.org/LICENSE ========================================================================= Jim Whitelaw tel: +1.780.975.1534 jim-at-pdsys-dot-com fax: +1.780.484.9239 Pathways Data Systems Inc. http://www.pdsys.com/ ========================================================================= "It is best to assume that the network is filled with malevolent entities that will send packets designed to have the worst possible effect." - F.Baker, RFC1812 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 25 11:25:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.sovintel.ru (ns.sovintel.ru [212.44.130.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0766337B424 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:25:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WS1 (81.spb.sovintel.ru [213.221.48.81] (may be forged)) by ns.sovintel.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA07223 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 22:25:10 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 22:25:49 +0400 From: Dmitry Koltsov X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.38e) S/N A1D26E39 / Educational Reply-To: Dmitry Koltsov X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <13934.000925@hostonfly.com> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: QLogic 2100 (Fibre Channel) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Someone tryed to use QLogic 2100 FC Adapter with external RAID system? It works? Best regards, Dmitry Koltsov Host On Fly S.A. mailto:root@hostonfly.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 25 13:15: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C6237B43C for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03678 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:14:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA06396 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:14:56 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200009252014.OAA06396@harmony.village.org> To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Sync serial cards for FreeBSD Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:14:56 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a buddy that's looking into the possibility of switching ISPs. He currently has a 56k async line (the old kind, not a 56k modem). He's looking for a sync card he can put into a freebsd box (or linux if he has to) that he can connect to the 56k line he gets from his telco that would go to the new ISP. I think frame relay is desirable, as is being able to upgrade to a T1 in time, but for the most part he just needs to be able to support the 56k line he has in place. I know there was just a discussion on this, but it seemed to meander a lot w/o any clear consensus forming. Did anybody cull the tread down into a list of potential suppliers? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 25 13:22:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [212.73.210.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0992637B42C for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [212.73.210.73]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id AAC1F6A903 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 22:22:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from sv.Go2France.com [212.73.210.79] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.04) id A4D79AAF0086; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 22:25:59 +0200 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20000925221954.049b5ba0@mail.Go2France.com> X-Sender: lconrad%Go2France.com@mail.Go2France.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 22:22:44 +0200 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Subject: Re: Sync serial cards for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <200009252014.OAA06396@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >I know there was just a discussion on this, but it seemed to meander a >lot w/o any clear consensus forming. Did anybody cull the tread down >into a list of potential suppliers? There really nothing "very cheap", www.etinc.com PCISYNC card with 1 port option seems to be as good as any, and they support Frame Relay and FreeBSD. Then there's Sangoma and Lanmedia, don't know about the FR support. I don't think sdlcomm.com supports FreeBSD. That's really about it, imo. Len http://BIND8NT.MEIway.com: ISC BIND 8.2.2 p5 installable binary for NT4 http://IMGate.MEIway.com: Build free, hi-perf, anti-spam mail gateways To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 25 14: 1:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ebola.biohz.net (ebola.biohz.net [206.80.1.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC7F37B424 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ebola.biohz.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E6AC63A3D1; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <013001c02733$c77f54c0$0302010a@biohz.net> From: "Renaud Waldura" To: Cc: References: <20000925145256703.AAA536@showcase.pdsys.com@dooley> Subject: Re: Active Server Pages, blah! Cold Fusion, $$, Java Server Pages???? on FreeBSD Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:01:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Check out the gnujsp port in /usr/ports/www/gnujsp: a GPL implementation of Java Server Pages, it works like a charm. Installing the gnujsp port will also install everything else you need, a really nice job. --Renaud ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Whitelaw To: Cc: Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 8:10 AM Subject: Re: Active Server Pages, blah! Cold Fusion, $$, Java Server Pages???? on FreeBSD > On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 23:13:29 -0600, Alex wrote: > > >I'm tossing this out for general comments. Anyone know if Sun will > >ever make JavaServer Pages available on anything other than a Sun? > > You want to look at the Tomcat project here: > http://jakarta.apache.org/ > > >I'm guessing JavaServer stuff is not GPL'd.. :-) > > Not GPL, the Apache License. Sun is still responsible for the Servlet and JSP > specs themselves, but the reference implementation (Tomcat) is open source. > > http://jakarta.apache.org/LICENSE > > > ========================================================================= > Jim Whitelaw tel: +1.780.975.1534 > jim-at-pdsys-dot-com fax: +1.780.484.9239 > Pathways Data Systems Inc. http://www.pdsys.com/ > ========================================================================= > "It is best to assume that the network is filled with malevolent entities > that will send packets designed to have the worst possible effect." > - F.Baker, RFC1812 > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 25 16:36:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from lynx.aba.net.au (lynx.esec.com.au [203.21.84.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F9BD37B422 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21330 invoked from network); 25 Sep 2000 23:36:25 -0000 Received: from swun.esec.com.au (HELO eSec.com.au) (203.21.85.207) by lynx.esec.com.au with SMTP; 25 Sep 2000 23:36:25 -0000 Message-ID: <39CFE3A1.26B5D63D@eSec.com.au> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:45:37 +1100 From: Sam Wun Organization: eSec X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Which Webmail for FreeBSD? References: <5.0.0.25.0.20000925221954.049b5ba0@mail.Go2France.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, Which webmail can anyone suggest for FreeBSD? I have tried many of them, but they are all either too complicated for the installation or failed to run. Thanks Sam. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 25 16:51:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B8637B424 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 552F71C41; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 19:51:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 19:51:48 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: Sam Wun Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which Webmail for FreeBSD? Message-ID: <20000925195148.Q34501@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <5.0.0.25.0.20000925221954.049b5ba0@mail.Go2France.com> <39CFE3A1.26B5D63D@eSec.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <39CFE3A1.26B5D63D@eSec.com.au>; from swun@eSec.com.au on Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 10:45:37AM +1100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 10:45:37AM +1100, Sam Wun wrote: > Which webmail can anyone suggest for FreeBSD? > > I have tried many of them, but they are all either too complicated for the > installation or failed to run. horde/imp seems to be the opensource/free champion currently. I haven't tried the others. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 25 18:35:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from lynx.aba.net.au (lynx.esec.com.au [203.21.84.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E4A1C37B424 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20144 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2000 01:35:15 -0000 Received: from swun.esec.com.au (HELO eSec.com.au) (203.21.85.207) by lynx.esec.com.au with SMTP; 26 Sep 2000 01:35:15 -0000 Message-ID: <39CFFF7C.542C2BAC@eSec.com.au> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:44:28 +1100 From: Sam Wun Organization: eSec X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jahanur R Subedar Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which Webmail for FreeBSD? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I failed to run it correctly, the /usr/local/apache/cgi-bin/sqwebmail won't run correctly. Thansk Sam. Jahanur R Subedar wrote: > have you tried sqwebmail. get it from www.inter7.com > > On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Sam Wun wrote: > > > hi, > > > > Which webmail can anyone suggest for FreeBSD? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 25 18:38:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDCF137B422 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 33D4A1C41; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:38:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:38:45 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: Sam Wun Cc: Jahanur R Subedar , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which Webmail for FreeBSD? Message-ID: <20000925213845.R34501@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <39CFFF7C.542C2BAC@eSec.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <39CFFF7C.542C2BAC@eSec.com.au>; from swun@eSec.com.au on Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 12:44:28PM +1100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 12:44:28PM +1100, Sam Wun wrote: > I failed to run it correctly, the /usr/local/apache/cgi-bin/sqwebmail won't run > correctly. Well, that's your problem. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org PS. I have a production horde/imp server and I have no file named 'sqwebmail'. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 25 18:57:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from lynx.aba.net.au (lynx.esec.com.au [203.21.84.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F27237B42C for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11205 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2000 01:57:44 -0000 Received: from swun.esec.com.au (HELO eSec.com.au) (203.21.85.207) by lynx.esec.com.au with SMTP; 26 Sep 2000 01:57:44 -0000 Message-ID: <39D004C1.ED9890C6@eSec.com.au> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 13:06:57 +1100 From: Sam Wun Organization: eSec X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Fumerola Cc: Jahanur R Subedar , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which Webmail for FreeBSD? References: <39CFFF7C.542C2BAC@eSec.com.au> <20000925213845.R34501@jade.chc-chimes.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, after read the docs in the horde website, it give me more confident compared to other webmails. Thansk Sam. Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 12:44:28PM +1100, Sam Wun wrote: > > I failed to run it correctly, the /usr/local/apache/cgi-bin/sqwebmail won't run > > correctly. > > Well, that's your problem. > > -- > Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. > billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org > > PS. I have a production horde/imp server and I have no file named 'sqwebmail'. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 26 1:49: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED06437B424 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 01:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13dqPn-000HSp-00; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:48:39 +0200 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:48:39 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Sam Wun Cc: Jahanur R Subedar , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which Webmail for FreeBSD? Message-ID: <20000926104839.A67108@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <39CFFF7C.542C2BAC@eSec.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <39CFFF7C.542C2BAC@eSec.com.au>; from swun@eSec.com.au on Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 12:44:28PM +1100 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue 2000-09-26 (12:44), Sam Wun wrote: > I failed to run it correctly, the /usr/local/apache/cgi-bin/sqwebmail > won't run correctly. Well, maybe if you gave the _errors_, someone could help you. Also, I did a port for sqwebmail - /usr/ports/mail/sqwebmail. Just remember sqwebmail acts directly on Maildirs, and not Mailboxes, and not via POP3/IMAP. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 26 5: 4:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hanoi.cronyx.ru (hanoi.cronyx.ru [144.206.181.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA7637B424 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 05:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cronyx.ru by hanoi.cronyx.ru with ESMTP id QAA02453; (8.9.3/vak/2.1) Tue, 26 Sep 2000 16:12:04 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <39D09211.FAFB6747@cronyx.ru> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 16:09:53 +0400 From: Kurakin Roman Organization: Cronyx X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warner Losh Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sync serial cards for FreeBSD References: <200009252014.OAA06396@harmony.village.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Try also http://www.cronyx.ru/hardware WAN Adapters section. Kurakin Roman Warner Losh wrote: > > I have a buddy that's looking into the possibility of switching ISPs. > He currently has a 56k async line (the old kind, not a 56k modem). > He's looking for a sync card he can put into a freebsd box (or linux > if he has to) that he can connect to the 56k line he gets from his > telco that would go to the new ISP. I think frame relay is desirable, > as is being able to upgrade to a T1 in time, but for the most part he > just needs to be able to support the 56k line he has in place. > > I know there was just a discussion on this, but it seemed to meander a > lot w/o any clear consensus forming. Did anybody cull the tread down > into a list of potential suppliers? > > Warner > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 26 7:10:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.rccn.net (atlas.rccn.net [193.136.7.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 130C537B422 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 07:10:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 48996 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2000 14:10:43 -0000 Received: from oberon.rccn.net (HELO rccn.net) (193.136.7.8) by atlas.rccn.net with SMTP; 26 Sep 2000 14:10:43 -0000 Message-ID: <39D0AE63.E04797FD@rccn.net> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:10:43 +0100 From: jpsp@rccn.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: console on a modem (Siemens S25) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, I'm trying to set up a tty on a modem. The problem is that the modem is a cell phone (Siemens S25), that I just can't get it to go into auto answer mode (register S0). Is it necessary for the modem to be in auto-answer mode, or is there a way for the computer to answer the call (responding to the RING string comming from the communication port with an ATA command)? Any suggestions would be welcome... thnks, jp -- FCCN - Fundação para a Computação Científica Nacional - Tel: +351-218440100 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 26 8: 3: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from thing.orbitel.bg (thing.orbitel.bg [195.24.32.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3405C37B43F for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 08:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6913 invoked by uid 1001); 26 Sep 2000 15:02:58 -0000 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:02:58 +0300 From: Stanislav Grozev To: jpsp@rccn.net Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: console on a modem (Siemens S25) Message-ID: <20000926180258.B6527@thing.orbitel.bg> References: <39D0AE63.E04797FD@rccn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Yylu36WmvOXNoKYn" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <39D0AE63.E04797FD@rccn.net>; from jpsp@rccn.net on Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 03:10:43PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --Yylu36WmvOXNoKYn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 03:10:43PM +0100, jpsp@rccn.net wrote: >=20 > Hello all, >=20 > I'm trying to set up a tty on a modem. > The problem is that the modem is a cell phone (Siemens S25), > that I just can't get it to go into auto answer mode (register S0). > Is it necessary for the modem to be in auto-answer mode, > or is there a way for the computer to answer the call (responding > to the RING string comming from the communication port with an ATA=20 > command)? >=20 > Any suggestions would be welcome... why don't you turn on the phone's built in autoanswer feature? -tacho -- [i don't follow] | [http://daemonz.org/ || tacho@daemonz.org] [everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler] 0x44FC3339 || [02B5 798B 4BD1 97FB F8DB 72E4 DCA4 BE03 44FC 3339] --Yylu36WmvOXNoKYn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.3 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE50Lqi3KS+A0T8MzkRApwJAKCGrUmaYM1QbaKKU8egRVcHjR876QCeK2tj y3vIYVDWsWdgslWJuYXzES4= =lNdl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Yylu36WmvOXNoKYn-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 26 8: 8:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from foundation.agava.ru (foundation.agava.ru [195.2.82.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70D837B424 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 08:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by foundation.agava.ru (Postfix, from userid 66) id 5279C228361; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 19:08:09 +0400 (MSD) Received: from hellbell.domain (hellbell.domain [192.168.1.12]) by gw.office.agava.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82205C52; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:06:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hellbell.domain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BAD3CD72; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 19:06:56 +0400 (MSD) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 19:06:56 +0400 (MSD) From: Alex Zakirov X-Sender: frank@hellbell.domain To: Stanislav Grozev Cc: jpsp@rccn.net, isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: console on a modem (Siemens S25) In-Reply-To: <20000926180258.B6527@thing.orbitel.bg> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Stanislav Grozev wrote: > On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 03:10:43PM +0100, jpsp@rccn.net wrote: > > > > Hello all, > > > > I'm trying to set up a tty on a modem. > > The problem is that the modem is a cell phone (Siemens S25), > > that I just can't get it to go into auto answer mode (register S0). > > Is it necessary for the modem to be in auto-answer mode, > > or is there a way for the computer to answer the call (responding > > to the RING string comming from the communication port with an ATA > > command)? > > > > Any suggestions would be welcome... > > why don't you turn on the phone's built in autoanswer feature? bash$ (cd /usr/ports/comms/mgetty+sendfax; make install clean) *** WBR, Alexey Zakirov (frank@agava.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 26 8:34:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.rccn.net (atlas.rccn.net [193.136.7.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A79937B43F for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 08:34:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 53958 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2000 15:34:28 -0000 Received: from oberon.rccn.net (HELO rccn.net) (193.136.7.8) by atlas.rccn.net with SMTP; 26 Sep 2000 15:34:28 -0000 Message-ID: <39D0C204.D257C49D@rccn.net> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 16:34:28 +0100 From: jpsp@rccn.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stanislav Grozev Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: console on a modem (Siemens S25) References: <39D0AE63.E04797FD@rccn.net> <20000926180258.B6527@thing.orbitel.bg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Stanislav Grozev wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 03:10:43PM +0100, jpsp@rccn.net wrote: > > > > Hello all, > > > > I'm trying to set up a tty on a modem. > > The problem is that the modem is a cell phone (Siemens S25), > > that I just can't get it to go into auto answer mode (register S0). > > Is it necessary for the modem to be in auto-answer mode, > > or is there a way for the computer to answer the call (responding > > to the RING string comming from the communication port with an ATA > > command)? > > > > Any suggestions would be welcome... > > why don't you turn on the phone's built in autoanswer feature? Exactly. That was my first thought. However the Siemens S25 doesn't seem to work with "ATS0=1": it responds with OK, but when the call comes it just won't answer it... --jp > > -tacho > > -- > [i don't follow] | [http://daemonz.org/ || tacho@daemonz.org] > [everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler] > 0x44FC3339 || [02B5 798B 4BD1 97FB F8DB 72E4 DCA4 BE03 44FC 3339] > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature -- FCCN - Fundação para a Computação Científica Nacional - Tel: +351-218440100 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 26 9: 6:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from peony.ezo.net (peony.ezo.net [206.102.130.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A65E37B422 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jflowers@localhost) by peony.ezo.net (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id e8QGVhi84966; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:31:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:31:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Flowers To: Warner Losh Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sync serial cards for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <200009252014.OAA06396@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My suggestion of the Sangoma card was too rich for the original poster's pocketbook but at something like $650 it's still a pretty good bet with an on-board FT-1 (actually it's a BAT and the GUI monitor even looks exactly like the front of a BAT FT-1). So far we've turned up 4 or 5 of these without a problem. They do provide a FreeBSD 4.X driver and a curses based setup program for both the sync card and the FT-1. They have a support forum and a guy who seems able to provide the FreeBSD support they claim. The Win##/NT GUI monitor is convenient. Frame relay is supported (at least on the FT-1 port). Could connect the second sync connection to existing 56K (64K robbed bit?) if an RS-232 connection and HDLC. Then just plug the future T-1 network cable into the on-board CSU/DSU. S508/FT1 ISA/16 bit. Even run in parallel, if desired. Not sure whether the S514/FT1 PCI/32 bit can be used without the CUS/DSU or not but sync only would do. Jim Flowers #4 ranked ISP on C|NET #1 in Ohio On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > > I have a buddy that's looking into the possibility of switching ISPs. > He currently has a 56k async line (the old kind, not a 56k modem). > He's looking for a sync card he can put into a freebsd box (or linux > if he has to) that he can connect to the 56k line he gets from his > telco that would go to the new ISP. I think frame relay is desirable, > as is being able to upgrade to a T1 in time, but for the most part he > just needs to be able to support the 56k line he has in place. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 26 9:57:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.tcworks.net (ns.tcworks.net [216.61.218.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9F737B422 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:57:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tcworks.net (stuck.sticky.org [216.61.218.6]) by ns.tcworks.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA91455 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:51:57 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Message-ID: <39D0D607.29DEDE19@tcworks.net> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:59:51 -0500 From: Chris Cook X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Limiting Perl CPU Utilization... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We are using atdot for our web mail along with Apache. Right now it is on the same box as our primary web server, we are going to move it over to it's own box eventually. The problem that we are having is that atdot sucks up CPU cycles with it's Perl scripts, bogging down the web server. Is there a way to limit how much cpu utilization Perl can have or what would be a better way of doing this? Thanks. -- Chris o----< ccook@tcworks.net >-------------------------------------o |Chris Cook - Admin | TCWORKS.NET - http://www.tcworks.net | |The Computer Works ISP | FreeBSD - http://www.freebsd.org | o--------------------------------------------------------------o To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 26 10: 0:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from inago.swcp.com (inago.swcp.com [198.59.115.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C831F37B42C for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (deichert@localhost) by inago.swcp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA24790; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:00:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: inago.swcp.com: deichert owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:00:18 -0600 (MDT) From: Diana Eichert X-Sender: deichert@inago.swcp.com To: jpsp@rccn.net Cc: Stanislav Grozev , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: console on a modem (Siemens S25) In-Reply-To: <39D0C204.D257C49D@rccn.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org take a look at mgetty, should be in the ports collection. it looks at the RING string, plus it has some other things that are interesting. I used to run dialup servers using FreeBSD and mgetty a long time ago. diana On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 jpsp@rccn.net wrote: > Stanislav Grozev wrote: > >=20 > > On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 03:10:43PM +0100, jpsp@rccn.net wrote: > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > I'm trying to set up a tty on a modem. > > > The problem is that the modem is a cell phone (Siemens S25), > > > that I just can't get it to go into auto answer mode (register S0). > > > Is it necessary for the modem to be in auto-answer mode, > > > or is there a way for the computer to answer the call (responding > > > to the RING string comming from the communication port with an ATA > > > command)? > > > > > > Any suggestions would be welcome... > >=20 > > why don't you turn on the phone's built in autoanswer feature? >=20 > Exactly. That was my first thought. However the > Siemens S25 doesn't seem to work with "ATS0=3D1": it > responds with OK, but when the call comes it just won't answer it... >=20 > --jp >=20 > >=20 > > -tacho > >=20 > > -- > > [i don't follow] | [http://daemonz.org/ || tacho@daemonz.org] > > [everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler] > > 0x44FC3339 || [02B5 798B 4BD1 97FB F8DB 72E4 DCA4 BE03 44FC 3339] > >=20 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= --- > > Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature >=20 > -- > FCCN - Funda=E7=E3o para a Computa=E7=E3o Cient=EDfica Nacional - Tel: > +351-218440100 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 26 10:21: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from exchange.nils.lib.il.us (mailsrv.nils.lib.il.us [206.190.22.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFB737B424 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by EXCHANGE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:21:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3073B3378589D411B21600508BAF32AA012346@EXCHANGE> From: Nathan Williams To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Pulse poll at Borland Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:21:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm not sure if anyone has alerted this group yet, so I'm sorry if this is a repeat. Also, I know this isn't specifically for ISPs, but I thought it would be of interest. Borland is conducting a developer's poll at http://community.borland.com addressing which OS to add support to for C++ Builder and Delphi. Currently FreeBSD is 4th, but could easily pull of second place if we could get a few more votes in. Nobody knows how much cred Borland puts into these surveys, but this is a great and essential opportunity for the FreeBSD community to express their interest in corporate support for FreeBSD applications. So, VOTE goddamnit. Nathan Williams nathanw@nils.lib.il.us P.S. Before voting you will need to fill out a very short registration form, no biggy so don't let it discourage you from making your voice heard. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 26 10:22: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from guru.cit-ua.net (office.radio.vostok.net [194.44.7.187]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B085637B422 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 619 invoked by uid 5046); 26 Sep 2000 20:21:49 +0300 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Sep 2000 20:21:49 +0300 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 20:21:49 +0300 (EEST) From: Sergey Vishnevetskiy To: Diana Eichert Cc: jpsp@rccn.net, Stanislav Grozev , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: console on a modem (Siemens S25) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 jpsp@rccn.net wrote: > > > Stanislav Grozev wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 03:10:43PM +0100, jpsp@rccn.net wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > > > I'm trying to set up a tty on a modem. [snip] > > > > Any suggestions would be welcome... > > > > > > why don't you turn on the phone's built in autoanswer feature? > > > > Exactly. That was my first thought. However the > > Siemens S25 doesn't seem to work with "ATS0=1": it > > responds with OK, but when the call comes it just won't answer it... > > > take a look at mgetty, should be in the ports collection. > > it looks at the RING string, plus it has some other things that are > interesting. I used to run dialup servers using FreeBSD and mgetty a long > time ago. man gettytab and look for the same possibilities in standard getty ( "ic" and "ac" ). BTW it can also detect incoming ppp and call some program instead of "login" ( "pp" ) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 26 10:23:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from msp-26-178-57.mn.rr.com (msp-26-178-57.mn.rr.com [24.26.178.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B3437B42C for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by msp-26-178-57.mn.rr.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id 4FB5475F; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:23:03 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:23:03 -0500 From: Goblin To: Chris Cook Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Limiting Perl CPU Utilization... Message-ID: <20000926122303.A12707@uswest.net> References: <39D0D607.29DEDE19@tcworks.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset*=ansi-x3-4-1968''us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.8i In-Reply-To: <39D0D607.29DEDE19@tcworks.net>; from ccook@tcworks.net on Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 11:59:51AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Why not just use nice? It doesn't limit the CPU, really, but makes it easier for other processes to preempt the nicer process. -Shawn On 09/26, Chris Cook rearranged the electrons to read: > We are using atdot for our web mail along with Apache. Right now it is > on the same box as our primary web server, we are going to move it over > to it's own box eventually. The problem that we are having is that > atdot sucks up CPU cycles with it's Perl scripts, bogging down the web > server. Is there a way to limit how much cpu utilization Perl can have > or what would be a better way of doing this? Thanks. > > -- > Chris > > o----< ccook@tcworks.net >-------------------------------------o > |Chris Cook - Admin | TCWORKS.NET - http://www.tcworks.net | > |The Computer Works ISP | FreeBSD - http://www.freebsd.org | > o--------------------------------------------------------------o > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message Your eyes are weary from staring at the CRT. You feel sleepy. Notice how restful it is to watch the cursor blink. Close your eyes. The opinions stated above are yours. You cannot imagine why you ever felt otherwise. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 26 12:19:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [208.11.142.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 396DB37B424 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA87124 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:19:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@federation.addy.com) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:19:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Sander Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Limiting Perl CPU Utilization... In-Reply-To: <20000926122303.A12707@uswest.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Why not just use nice? or for that matter perl's own "setpriority" command -=Jim=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 26 14: 8:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from wallace.webmatic.de (wallace.webmatic.de [212.78.99.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD4237B422 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:08:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ncc-qae0k3bnoas.chef-ingenieur.de (guru.chef-ingenieur.de [212.78.97.166]) by wallace.webmatic.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27BC27C28 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:08:31 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000926230216.00b007b8@wallace.webmatic.de> X-Sender: guru-fbsd@wallace.webmatic.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:09:07 +0200 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Thomas Krause, CI" Subject: Intel ISP1100, ISP2200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, has anybody installed FreeBSD on an Intel ISP1100 or Intel ISP2200 Box? At the technical spec I can read: Operating systems supported: Windows NT* 4.0 Server and Red Hat* Linux 6.1 Looks like a normal mainboard with Intel BX chipset and Intel 10/100 NIC - so FreeBSD should run on it. Kind regards, Thomas. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 26 14:11: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from fantasy.icr.com.au (fantasy.icr.com.au [203.17.49.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A947237B43C for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:10:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from icr.com.au (dale@taz [192.168.1.101]) by fantasy.icr.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA55895; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 07:22:07 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dale@icr.com.au) Message-ID: <39D11278.5540746F@icr.com.au> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 07:17:44 +1000 From: Dale Walker Reply-To: dale@icr.com.au Organization: Independent Computer Retailers (ICR) Pty Ltd / ICRnet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Thomas Krause, CI" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel ISP1100, ISP2200 References: <4.3.2.7.0.20000926230216.00b007b8@wallace.webmatic.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Thomas Krause, CI" wrote: > > Hi, > > has anybody installed FreeBSD on an Intel ISP1100 or Intel ISP2200 Box? > > At the technical spec I can read: > > Operating systems supported: Windows NT* 4.0 Server and Red Hat* Linux 6.1 > > Looks like a normal mainboard with Intel BX chipset and Intel 10/100 NIC - > so FreeBSD should run on it. > > Kind regards, > Thomas. I've looked at them, but I haven't tried it myself yet... I'd be interested to see if any other have tried as well... -- Dale Walker dale@icr.com.au Independent Computer Retailers (ICR) http://www.icr.com.au ICRnet http://www.icr.net.au To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 26 14:17:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [207.154.226.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A1837B42C for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:17:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C5D562B269; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 16:17:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:17:18 -0700 From: Paul Saab To: "Thomas Krause, CI" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel ISP1100, ISP2200 Message-ID: <20000926141718.A90766@elvis.mu.org> References: <4.3.2.7.0.20000926230216.00b007b8@wallace.webmatic.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20000926230216.00b007b8@wallace.webmatic.de>; from freebsd@chef-ingenieur.de on Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 11:09:07PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thomas Krause, CI (freebsd@chef-ingenieur.de) wrote: > > Hi, > > has anybody installed FreeBSD on an Intel ISP1100 or Intel ISP2200 Box? > > At the technical spec I can read: > > Operating systems supported: Windows NT* 4.0 Server and Red Hat* Linux 6.1 > > Looks like a normal mainboard with Intel BX chipset and Intel 10/100 NIC - > so FreeBSD should run on it. They work just fine.. -- Paul Saab Technical Yahoo paul@mu.org - ps@yahoo-inc.com - ps@freebsd.org Do You .. uhh .. Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 26 14:20:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [158.36.41.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B8C7C37B422 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 39023 invoked by uid 1001); 26 Sep 2000 21:16:53 +0000 (GMT) To: freebsd@chef-ingenieur.de Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel ISP1100, ISP2200 From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:09:07 +0200" References: <4.3.2.7.0.20000926230216.00b007b8@wallace.webmatic.de> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.34.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:16:53 +0200 Message-ID: <39020.970003013@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > has anybody installed FreeBSD on an Intel ISP1100 or Intel ISP2200 Box? > > At the technical spec I can read: > > Operating systems supported: Windows NT* 4.0 Server and Red Hat* Linux 6.1 > > Looks like a normal mainboard with Intel BX chipset and Intel 10/100 NIC - > so FreeBSD should run on it. Yup. I recently installed 4.1-STABLE on an ISP1100. Worked like a charm. I'll dig out the dmesg tomorrow when I'm at the office. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 26 14:20:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shurick.fix.aha.ru (shurick.fix.aha.ru [195.2.64.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82CD837B424 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:20:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from shurick@localhost) by shurick.fix.aha.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA03277; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:20:39 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from shurick) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3.1 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20000926230216.00b007b8@wallace.webmatic.de> X-Comments: shurick@home Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:20:38 +0400 (MSD) Organization: Zenon N.S.P. From: "Alexander A. Radunsky" To: "Thomas Krause, CI" Subject: RE: Intel ISP1100, ISP2200 Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 26-Sep-00 Thomas Krause, CI wrote: Good $Greetings_time, > has anybody installed FreeBSD on an Intel ISP1100 or Intel ISP2200 Box? Sure, in production environment. Why not? > At the technical spec I can read: > > Operating systems supported: Windows NT* 4.0 Server and Red Hat* Linux 6.1 > > Looks like a normal mainboard with Intel BX chipset and Intel 10/100 NIC - > so FreeBSD should run on it. Just friendly advice: never look to the advertising "compatibility" strings like one on above instead of the real technical hardware specifications by which these platfroms are fully compatible with FreeBSD. -- Alexander A. Radunsky AR8-RIPN AAR2-RIPE Zenon N.S.P. Moscow, Russia http://www.zenon.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 26 15:30:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wanlogistics.net (mail.wanlogistics.net [63.209.114.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F5337B42C for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chuck@localhost) by mail.wanlogistics.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA50791 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:29:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chuck) Message-Id: <200009262229.SAA50791@mail.wanlogistics.net> Subject: Re: Intel ISP1100, ISP2200 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20000926230216.00b007b8@wallace.webmatic.de> from "Thomas Krause, CI" at "Sep 26, 2000 11:09:07 pm" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:29:42 -0400 (EDT) From: bv@wjv.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Reply to: bv@wjv.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > has anybody installed FreeBSD on an Intel ISP1100 or Intel ISP2200 > Box? Yup - the iNTEL unit are going to be our default servers. > At the technical spec I can read: > Operating systems supported: Windows NT* 4.0 Server and Red Hat* > Linux 6.1 > Looks like a normal mainboard with Intel BX chipset and Intel > 10/100 NIC - so FreeBSD should run on it. Well it's not QUITE a normal motherboard. It has two Intel 100's on it. No video control - but the nice thing is that none is needed - basically a 'lights out' environment machine. On boot the BIOS is redirected through a serial port. That means you can configure the BIOS and make changes through a serial port. That means you can remotely power cycle and set/check BIOS on boot through a serial port, and then have that serial port come to life in the OS on boot. I'm getting about 8MB/sec reads/writes with an IDE - and for higher-powered systems we'll put in SCSI. iNTEL has just announced a 4RU version to go along with the 1 and 2 RU units. Nice machine and priced reasonably, IMO. Bill Vermillion -- bv @ wjv . com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 26 19:17:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web2104.mail.yahoo.com (web2104.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4FFEF37B446 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 19:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7595 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Sep 2000 02:13:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20000927021301.7594.qmail@web2104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.95.3.8] by web2104.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 19:13:01 PDT Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 19:13:01 -0700 (PDT) From: xiyuan qian Subject: host with IPNAT -- router -- router -- LAN To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I don't know how this can? My problem is that I have a host locating out of my office having a valid IP address and connected to internet. I installed another NIC card to it and assign a internal (invalid) IP address, then I connect a cisco2509 router to this internal LAN, then I connect a cisco800 router to the cisco2509 router throght a DDN line. All I want to do is let my LAN locating my office can go to the internet through the host which having a valid IP address. How to? Can it? The structure shows in detail like this: IPNAT DDN Internet---host---cisco2509----cisco800---office LAN Best regaurds! --xiyuan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 26 19:17:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web2104.mail.yahoo.com (web2104.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A3D037B621 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 19:15:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7919 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Sep 2000 02:15:40 -0000 Message-ID: <20000927021540.7918.qmail@web2104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.95.3.8] by web2104.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 19:15:40 PDT Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 19:15:40 -0700 (PDT) From: xiyuan qian Subject: host with IPNAT -- router -- router -- LAN To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I don't know how this can? My problem is that I have a host locating out of my office having a valid IP address and connected to internet. I installed another NIC card to it and assign a internal (invalid) IP address, then I connect a cisco2509 router to this internal LAN, then I connect a cisco800 router to the cisco2509 router throght a DDN line. All I want to do is let my LAN locating my office can go to the internet through the host which having a valid IP address. How to? Can it? The structure shows in detail like this: IPNAT DDN Internet---host---cisco2509----cisco800---office LAN Best regaurds! --xiyuan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 27 0:56:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B9437B618 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 00:56:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA10158; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:56:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id BAA81609; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:56:23 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200009270756.BAA81609@harmony.village.org> To: Kurakin Roman Subject: Re: Sync serial cards for FreeBSD Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 26 Sep 2000 16:09:53 +0400." <39D09211.FAFB6747@cronyx.ru> References: <39D09211.FAFB6747@cronyx.ru> <200009252014.OAA06396@harmony.village.org> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:56:23 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <39D09211.FAFB6747@cronyx.ru> Kurakin Roman writes: : Try also http://www.cronyx.ru/hardware : WAN Adapters section. Thanks! Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 27 1:59:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA19937B42C for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e8R8wxv35988; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:58:59 +0200 (SAT) (envelope-from jhay) From: John Hay Message-Id: <200009270858.e8R8wxv35988@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: Sync serial cards for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <200009252014.OAA06396@harmony.village.org> from Warner Losh at "Sep 25, 2000 02:14:56 pm" To: imp@village.org (Warner Losh) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:58:59 +0200 (SAT) Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I have a buddy that's looking into the possibility of switching ISPs. > He currently has a 56k async line (the old kind, not a 56k modem). > He's looking for a sync card he can put into a freebsd box (or linux > if he has to) that he can connect to the 56k line he gets from his > telco that would go to the new ISP. I think frame relay is desirable, > as is being able to upgrade to a T1 in time, but for the most part he > just needs to be able to support the 56k line he has in place. > > I know there was just a discussion on this, but it seemed to meander a > lot w/o any clear consensus forming. Did anybody cull the tread down > into a list of potential suppliers? > We have support for the DataFire SYNC 570i ISA and PCI cards from Digi (www.digi.com) using the ar(4) driver and also the WANic 400/405 PCI cards from SDL (www.sdlcomm.com) using the sr(4) driver. I don't know about their pricing though. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@icomtek.csir.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 27 6:59:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hanoi.cronyx.ru (hanoi.cronyx.ru [144.206.181.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C09E37B422 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 06:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cronyx.ru by hanoi.cronyx.ru with ESMTP id SAA01793; (8.9.3/vak/2.1) Wed, 27 Sep 2000 18:05:03 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <39D1FE07.7FFA0A2@cronyx.ru> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 18:02:47 +0400 From: Kurakin Roman Organization: Cronyx X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alex@aspenworks.com, info@cronyx.ru, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sync serial cards for FreeBSD References: <39D09211.FAFB6747@cronyx.ru> <200009252014.OAA06396@harmony.village.org> <200009270756.BAA81609@harmony.village.org> <39D1C199.E43C2CE8@aspenworks.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Alex wrote: > > What currency are the prices listed in? Us dollars, prices without delivery. > Are these supported in FreeBSD? Yes. And soon we plan to update our drivers in FreeBSD tree. We also plan to update sppp. > Is there a T1 rate for the US via a driver? Yes. Tau and Tau-PCI support such rates. Tau supports up to 4 Mbit/sec an Tau-PCI up to 10Mbit/sec. Kurakin Roman > > Thanks, > > -Alex > > Warner Losh wrote: > > > > In message <39D09211.FAFB6747@cronyx.ru> Kurakin Roman writes: > > : Try also http://www.cronyx.ru/hardware > > : WAN Adapters section. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Warner > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 27 7:37:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from veronet.net (ns.veronet.net [199.227.3.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FCD637B43C for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 07:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from columbia (pm3-123.veronet.net [199.227.3.123]) by veronet.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA17636 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:45:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.20000927103852.00ace360@veronet.net> X-Sender: mmoran@veronet.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:38:52 -0400 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Michael Moran Subject: ATM router with PPPoE? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there any ISP running FreeBSD box with ATM interface card and PPPoE to offer ADSL services as as alternative to the Redback solution? I would like to know how it works & setup etc... TIA, - Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 27 8:39:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jellico.com (jellico.com [205.160.50.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 31B7537B422 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:39:16 -0700 (PDT) X-ROUTED: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:30:16 -0500 Received: from lisa.jellico.com [205.160.50.190] by jellico.com with smtp id ALBNDDAN ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:29:50 -0500 Message-ID: <00b901c02899$0779bd20$be32a0cd@lisa.jellico.com> Reply-To: "Lisa Casey" From: "Lisa Casey" To: Cc: Subject: Sendmail: virtual hosts Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:38:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3115.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, This is a Sendmail problem but I hope someone here can help me. I'm running Sendmail 8.9.3 on FreeBSD 3.2 My FBSD box accepts mail for the virtual domain hardwickclothes.com and sends that E-mail to the local user hardmail. This works just fine. Now I want to set up E-mail for another virtual domain, gimbelconstruction.com. This domain needs three E-mail addresses: sales@gimbelconstruction.com, dan@gimbelconstruction.com, and webmaster@gimbelconstruction.com The sales and dan E-mail need to go to dgimbel@jellico.com. The webmaster E-mail needs to go to gimbel@icx.net My /etc/mail/virtusertable now looks like this: @hardwickclothes.com hardmail sales@gimbelconstruction.com dgimbel@jellico.com dan@gimbelconstruction.com dgimbel@jellico.com webmaster@gimbelconstruction.com gimbel@icx.net @gimbelconstruction.com dgimbel@jellico.com Those are tabs between the fields. In the last one it sure doesnt look like a tab, but I deleted it and redid it three times, so I dunno... I typed a tab... I added the domain gimbelconstruction.com to /etc/mail/sendmail.cw and to /etc/mail/relay-domains and to /etc/sendmail.cG I didn't do anything with /etc/aliases, but don't think I need to. I also haven't done anything with /etc/genericstable yet. Not sure what to do there. That file currently has one entry in it: hardmail @hardwickclothes.com hardmail is, of course, the local user that the hardwickclothes.com E-mail all goes to. Since none of the gimbelconstruction.com E-mail is going to a local user, I'm not sure what to do here. Finally I killed and restarted Sendmail and tried sending mail to: sales@gimbelconstruction.com. I get the standard error message: "The Message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected by the server. The rejected E-mail address was sales@gimbelconstruction.com ...... Server response 'No Such User Here' ". What have I done wrong (or failed to do?)? Must I create local users then alias the E-mail to the remote addresses (dgimbel@jellico.com and gimbel@icx.net)? Thanks for your help, Lisa Casey, Webmaster Interstate 2000, Inc. lisa@jellico.com webmaster@jellico.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 27 8:42:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.tcworks.net (ns.tcworks.net [216.61.218.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8C537B618 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tcworks.net (stuck.sticky.org [216.61.218.6]) by ns.tcworks.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA18160; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:33:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Message-ID: <39D2150B.6703C9F6@tcworks.net> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:40:59 -0500 From: Chris Cook X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Goblin Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Limiting Perl CPU Utilization... References: <39D0D607.29DEDE19@tcworks.net> <20000926122303.A12707@uswest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Goblin wrote: > > Why not just use nice? It doesn't limit the CPU, really, but makes it > easier for other processes to preempt the nicer process. OK, so how would I go about telling the .pl script to run nice -10 /usr/bin/perl /../cgi-bin/atdot/checkmail.pl instead of just /usr/bin/perl /../cgi-bin/atdot/checkmail.pl? Can I specify something at the top of the .pl script where it looks for /usr/bin/perl? Thanks! -- Chris o----< ccook@tcworks.net >-------------------------------------o |Chris Cook - Admin | TCWORKS.NET - http://www.tcworks.net | |The Computer Works ISP | FreeBSD - http://www.freebsd.org | o--------------------------------------------------------------o To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 27 8:44:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.tcworks.net (ns.tcworks.net [216.61.218.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E8637B423; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tcworks.net (stuck.sticky.org [216.61.218.6]) by ns.tcworks.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA19823; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:38:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Message-ID: <39D21643.54A3DB3E@tcworks.net> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:46:11 -0500 From: Chris Cook X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lisa Casey Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sendmail: virtual hosts References: <00b901c02899$0779bd20$be32a0cd@lisa.jellico.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Did you hash the virtusertable file? This is what you must do: makemap hash /etc/mail/virtusertable.db < /etc/mail/virtusertable Of course adjust for your paths... Lisa Casey wrote: > > Hi, > > This is a Sendmail problem but I hope someone here can help me. I'm running > Sendmail 8.9.3 on FreeBSD 3.2 > > My FBSD box accepts mail for the virtual domain hardwickclothes.com and > sends that E-mail to the local user hardmail. This works just fine. > > Now I want to set up E-mail for another virtual domain, > gimbelconstruction.com. This domain needs three E-mail addresses: > sales@gimbelconstruction.com, dan@gimbelconstruction.com, and > webmaster@gimbelconstruction.com The sales and dan E-mail need to go to > dgimbel@jellico.com. The webmaster E-mail needs to go to gimbel@icx.net > > My /etc/mail/virtusertable now looks like this: > > @hardwickclothes.com hardmail > sales@gimbelconstruction.com dgimbel@jellico.com > dan@gimbelconstruction.com dgimbel@jellico.com > webmaster@gimbelconstruction.com gimbel@icx.net > @gimbelconstruction.com dgimbel@jellico.com > > Those are tabs between the fields. In the last one it sure doesnt look like > a tab, but I deleted it and redid it three times, so I dunno... I typed a > tab... > > I added the domain gimbelconstruction.com to /etc/mail/sendmail.cw and to > /etc/mail/relay-domains and to /etc/sendmail.cG I didn't do anything with > /etc/aliases, but don't think I need to. I also haven't done anything with > /etc/genericstable yet. Not sure what to do there. That file currently has > one entry in it: > > hardmail @hardwickclothes.com > > hardmail is, of course, the local user that the hardwickclothes.com E-mail > all goes to. Since none of the gimbelconstruction.com E-mail is going to a > local user, I'm not sure what to do here. > > Finally I killed and restarted Sendmail and tried sending mail to: > sales@gimbelconstruction.com. I get the standard error message: "The > Message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected by the > server. The rejected E-mail address was sales@gimbelconstruction.com ...... > Server response 'No Such User Here' ". > > What have I done wrong (or failed to do?)? Must I create local users then > alias the E-mail to the remote addresses (dgimbel@jellico.com and > gimbel@icx.net)? > > Thanks for your help, > > Lisa Casey, Webmaster > Interstate 2000, Inc. > lisa@jellico.com > webmaster@jellico.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 27 8:59:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jellico.com (jellico.com [205.160.50.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E493A37B423 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:59:37 -0700 (PDT) X-ROUTED: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:50:36 -0500 Received: from lisa.jellico.com [205.160.50.190] by jellico.com with smtp id ALDCAFFB ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:50:06 -0500 Message-ID: <00da01c0289b$db7b32a0$be32a0cd@lisa.jellico.com> Reply-To: "Lisa Casey" From: "Lisa Casey" To: "Chris Cook" Cc: Subject: Re: Sendmail: virtual hosts Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:58:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3115.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Chris, Yes, I hashed the virtusertable. I saw the time/date stamp on virtusertable.db change accordingly so I assume that went OK. Still can't send mail to sales@gimbelconstruction.com though... Lisa >Did you hash the virtusertable file? > >This is what you must do: > >makemap hash /etc/mail/virtusertable.db < /etc/mail/virtusertable > >Of course adjust for your paths... > > > > >Lisa Casey wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> This is a Sendmail problem but I hope someone here can help me. I'm running >> Sendmail 8.9.3 on FreeBSD 3.2 >> >> My FBSD box accepts mail for the virtual domain hardwickclothes.com and >> sends that E-mail to the local user hardmail. This works just fine. >> >> Now I want to set up E-mail for another virtual domain, >> gimbelconstruction.com. This domain needs three E-mail addresses: >> sales@gimbelconstruction.com, dan@gimbelconstruction.com, and >> webmaster@gimbelconstruction.com The sales and dan E-mail need to go to >> dgimbel@jellico.com. The webmaster E-mail needs to go to gimbel@icx.net >> >> My /etc/mail/virtusertable now looks like this: >> >> @hardwickclothes.com hardmail >> sales@gimbelconstruction.com dgimbel@jellico.com >> dan@gimbelconstruction.com dgimbel@jellico.com >> webmaster@gimbelconstruction.com gimbel@icx.net >> @gimbelconstruction.com dgimbel@jellico.com >> >> Those are tabs between the fields. In the last one it sure doesnt look like >> a tab, but I deleted it and redid it three times, so I dunno... I typed a >> tab... >> >> I added the domain gimbelconstruction.com to /etc/mail/sendmail.cw and to >> /etc/mail/relay-domains and to /etc/sendmail.cG I didn't do anything with >> /etc/aliases, but don't think I need to. I also haven't done anything with >> /etc/genericstable yet. Not sure what to do there. That file currently has >> one entry in it: >> >> hardmail @hardwickclothes.com >> >> hardmail is, of course, the local user that the hardwickclothes.com E-mail >> all goes to. Since none of the gimbelconstruction.com E-mail is going to a >> local user, I'm not sure what to do here. >> >> Finally I killed and restarted Sendmail and tried sending mail to: >> sales@gimbelconstruction.com. I get the standard error message: "The >> Message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected by the >> server. The rejected E-mail address was sales@gimbelconstruction.com ...... >> Server response 'No Such User Here' ". >> >> What have I done wrong (or failed to do?)? Must I create local users then >> alias the E-mail to the remote addresses (dgimbel@jellico.com and >> gimbel@icx.net)? >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 27 9:11:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from msp-26-178-57.mn.rr.com (msp-26-178-57.mn.rr.com [24.26.178.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AAB937B422 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by msp-26-178-57.mn.rr.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 0440B117; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:11:10 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:11:09 -0500 From: Goblin To: Chris Cook Cc: Goblin , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Limiting Perl CPU Utilization... Message-ID: <20000927111109.A19990@uswest.net> References: <39D0D607.29DEDE19@tcworks.net> <20000926122303.A12707@uswest.net> <39D2150B.6703C9F6@tcworks.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg*=ansi-x3-4-1968''pgp-md5; protocol*=ansi-x3-4-1968''application%2Fpgp-signature; boundary*="ansi-x3-4-1968''EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.8i In-Reply-To: <39D2150B.6703C9F6@tcworks.net>; from ccook@tcworks.net on Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 10:40:59AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: text/plain; charset*=ansi-x3-4-1968''us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable #!/bin/nice /usr/bin/perl As the interpreter line works to give it a +10 nice, at leats on linux. Giving nice arguments seems to bomb. Is anyone else a guru at shabang sematics? On 09/27, Chris Cook rearranged the electrons to read: > Goblin wrote: > >=20 > > Why not just use nice? It doesn't limit the CPU, really, but makes it > > easier for other processes to preempt the nicer process. >=20 > OK, so how would I go about telling the .pl script to run >=20 > nice -10 /usr/bin/perl /../cgi-bin/atdot/checkmail.pl >=20 > instead of just /usr/bin/perl /../cgi-bin/atdot/checkmail.pl? >=20 > Can I specify something at the top of the .pl script where it looks for > /usr/bin/perl? >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > --=20 > Chris >=20 > o----< ccook@tcworks.net >-------------------------------------o > |Chris Cook - Admin | TCWORKS.NET - http://www.tcworks.net | > |The Computer Works ISP | FreeBSD - http://www.freebsd.org | > o--------------------------------------------------------------o Your eyes are weary from staring at the CRT. You feel sleepy. Notice how restful it is to watch the cursor blink. Close your eyes. The opinions stated above are yours. You cannot imagine why you ever felt otherwise. --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE50hwdubgCGkrWpN4RApiFAKCn5W2/tveyKK37sUo6VwxlEKCpDgCbBRav rcX7p33dlGHpLYQbU30Ff4c= =ZR0J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 27 9:22: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.tcworks.net (ns.tcworks.net [216.61.218.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA8B737B423 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:22:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tcworks.net (stuck.sticky.org [216.61.218.6]) by ns.tcworks.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA31400; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:16:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Message-ID: <39D21F28.F61C6A0@tcworks.net> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:24:08 -0500 From: Chris Cook X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Goblin Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Limiting Perl CPU Utilization... References: <39D0D607.29DEDE19@tcworks.net> <20000926122303.A12707@uswest.net> <39D2150B.6703C9F6@tcworks.net> <20000927111109.A19990@uswest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Goblin wrote: > > #!/bin/nice /usr/bin/perl > > As the interpreter line works to give it a +10 nice, at leats on linux. > Giving nice arguments seems to bomb. Is anyone else a guru at shabang > sematics? Ahhh... Thanks! It stumped me because it was bombing with me putting in the arguments. Thanks! == Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 27 10:39:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from superman.imag.net (superman.imag.net [207.200.148.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4103737B424 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crap.imag.net (ws52.motionlink.net [192.168.44.52]) by superman.imag.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e8RHg5P23736; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20000927104010.03986368@mail.imag.net> X-Sender: van2537@mail.imag.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:41:13 -0700 To: "Lisa Casey" , "Chris Cook" From: Luke Cowell Subject: Re: Sendmail: virtual hosts Cc: In-Reply-To: <00da01c0289b$db7b32a0$be32a0cd@lisa.jellico.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org try sendmail -bv sales@gimbelconstruction.com or telnet localhost 25 expn sales@gimbelconstruction.com or echo test | sendmail -v -t sales@gimbelconstruction.com just to collect more info about why its not being delivered. Luke At 11:58 AM 9/27/2000 -0400, Lisa Casey wrote: >Hi Chris, > >Yes, I hashed the virtusertable. I saw the time/date stamp on >virtusertable.db change accordingly so I assume that went OK. Still can't >send mail to sales@gimbelconstruction.com though... > >Lisa > > > > >Did you hash the virtusertable file? > > > >This is what you must do: > > > >makemap hash /etc/mail/virtusertable.db < /etc/mail/virtusertable > > > >Of course adjust for your paths... > > > > > > > > > >Lisa Casey wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> This is a Sendmail problem but I hope someone here can help me. I'm >running > >> Sendmail 8.9.3 on FreeBSD 3.2 > >> > >> My FBSD box accepts mail for the virtual domain hardwickclothes.com and > >> sends that E-mail to the local user hardmail. This works just fine. > >> > >> Now I want to set up E-mail for another virtual domain, > >> gimbelconstruction.com. This domain needs three E-mail addresses: > >> sales@gimbelconstruction.com, dan@gimbelconstruction.com, and > >> webmaster@gimbelconstruction.com The sales and dan E-mail need to go to > >> dgimbel@jellico.com. The webmaster E-mail needs to go to gimbel@icx.net > >> > >> My /etc/mail/virtusertable now looks like this: > >> > >> @hardwickclothes.com hardmail > >> sales@gimbelconstruction.com dgimbel@jellico.com > >> dan@gimbelconstruction.com dgimbel@jellico.com > >> webmaster@gimbelconstruction.com gimbel@icx.net > >> @gimbelconstruction.com dgimbel@jellico.com > >> > >> Those are tabs between the fields. In the last one it sure doesnt look >like > >> a tab, but I deleted it and redid it three times, so I dunno... I typed >a > >> tab... > >> > >> I added the domain gimbelconstruction.com to /etc/mail/sendmail.cw and to > >> /etc/mail/relay-domains and to /etc/sendmail.cG I didn't do anything >with > >> /etc/aliases, but don't think I need to. I also haven't done anything >with > >> /etc/genericstable yet. Not sure what to do there. That file currently >has > >> one entry in it: > >> > >> hardmail @hardwickclothes.com > >> > >> hardmail is, of course, the local user that the hardwickclothes.com >E-mail > >> all goes to. Since none of the gimbelconstruction.com E-mail is going to >a > >> local user, I'm not sure what to do here. > >> > >> Finally I killed and restarted Sendmail and tried sending mail to: > >> sales@gimbelconstruction.com. I get the standard error message: "The > >> Message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected by >the > >> server. The rejected E-mail address was sales@gimbelconstruction.com >...... > >> Server response 'No Such User Here' ". > >> > >> What have I done wrong (or failed to do?)? Must I create local users >then > >> alias the E-mail to the remote addresses (dgimbel@jellico.com and > >> gimbel@icx.net)? > >> > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Luke Cowell Motionlink Internet Senior Systems Administrator http://www.imag.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 27 11:13:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from superman.imag.net (superman.imag.net [207.200.148.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8581937B629 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crap.imag.net (ws52.motionlink.net [192.168.44.52]) by superman.imag.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e8RIHbP07586 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20000927111200.0371be30@mail.imag.net> X-Sender: van2537@mail.imag.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:16:45 -0700 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Luke Cowell Subject: apache access logs not updating. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm running apache 1.3.12 and for some reason my access logs stopped updating. The only way i can seem to get it to continue is if i actually remove the logfile. Has anyone seen this problem before or know what is causing it ? would there be an issue the log being corrupt ? Any input would be appreciated. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Luke Cowell Motionlink Internet Senior Systems Administrator http://www.imag.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 27 11:41:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from superman.imag.net (superman.imag.net [207.200.148.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F0137B42C for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crap.imag.net (ws52.motionlink.net [192.168.44.52]) by superman.imag.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e8RIk7P18253 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:46:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20000927114445.037380d0@mail.imag.net> X-Sender: van2537@mail.imag.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:45:14 -0700 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Luke Cowell Subject: Re: apache access logs not updating. In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20000927111200.0371be30@mail.imag.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry, i figured it out. It was due to some stale nfs filesystem info.... Luke At 11:16 AM 9/27/2000 -0700, Luke Cowell wrote: >I'm running apache 1.3.12 and for some reason my access logs stopped >updating. The only way i can seem to get it to continue is if i actually >remove the logfile. Has anyone seen this problem before or know what is >causing it ? would there be an issue the log being corrupt ? Any input >would be appreciated. > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >Luke Cowell >Motionlink Internet >Senior Systems Administrator >http://www.imag.net >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Luke Cowell Motionlink Internet Senior Systems Administrator http://www.imag.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 27 11:50:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6BE37B423 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA00866; Wed, 2 Jan 1980 14:49:58 GMT (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Message-Id: <198001021449.OAA00866@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@mail.etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:53:01 -0400 To: Warner Losh , isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Dennis Subject: Re: Sync serial cards for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <200009252014.OAA06396@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 02:14 PM 09/25/2000 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > >I have a buddy that's looking into the possibility of switching ISPs. >He currently has a 56k async line (the old kind, not a 56k modem). >He's looking for a sync card he can put into a freebsd box (or linux >if he has to) that he can connect to the 56k line he gets from his >telco that would go to the new ISP. I think frame relay is desirable, >as is being able to upgrade to a T1 in time, but for the most part he >just needs to be able to support the 56k line he has in place. > >I know there was just a discussion on this, but it seemed to meander a >lot w/o any clear consensus forming. Did anybody cull the tread down >into a list of potential suppliers? he can probably buy a cheap router for the price of a card for 1 slow line these days...but we got them if he needs them DB Emerging Technologies, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- http://www.etinc.com ISA and PCI T1/T3/V35/HSSI Cards for FreeBSD and LINUX Multiport T1 and HSSI/T3 UNIX-based Routers Bandwidth Management Standalone Systems Bandwidth Management software for LINUX and FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 27 14:54:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B71437B423; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:54:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veager.siteplus.net (user-38lc85j.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.32.179]) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23021; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:54:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:54:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Lisa Casey Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sendmail: virtual hosts In-Reply-To: <00b901c02899$0779bd20$be32a0cd@lisa.jellico.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I noticed that you mentioned the entry for hardwickclothes.com in sendmail.cw, but did not say you hade one for gimbelconstruction.com. Was this just an oversight, or is gimbelconstruction.com not listed in sendmail.cw? It must be in sendmail.cw for you machine to accept mail bound for this domain. -- Jim Weeks On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Lisa Casey wrote: > Hi, > > This is a Sendmail problem but I hope someone here can help me. I'm running > Sendmail 8.9.3 on FreeBSD 3.2 > > My FBSD box accepts mail for the virtual domain hardwickclothes.com and > sends that E-mail to the local user hardmail. This works just fine. > > Now I want to set up E-mail for another virtual domain, > gimbelconstruction.com. This domain needs three E-mail addresses: > sales@gimbelconstruction.com, dan@gimbelconstruction.com, and > webmaster@gimbelconstruction.com The sales and dan E-mail need to go to > dgimbel@jellico.com. The webmaster E-mail needs to go to gimbel@icx.net > > My /etc/mail/virtusertable now looks like this: > > @hardwickclothes.com hardmail > sales@gimbelconstruction.com dgimbel@jellico.com > dan@gimbelconstruction.com dgimbel@jellico.com > webmaster@gimbelconstruction.com gimbel@icx.net > @gimbelconstruction.com dgimbel@jellico.com > > > Those are tabs between the fields. In the last one it sure doesnt look like > a tab, but I deleted it and redid it three times, so I dunno... I typed a > tab... > > I added the domain gimbelconstruction.com to /etc/mail/sendmail.cw and to > /etc/mail/relay-domains and to /etc/sendmail.cG I didn't do anything with > /etc/aliases, but don't think I need to. I also haven't done anything with > /etc/genericstable yet. Not sure what to do there. That file currently has > one entry in it: > > hardmail @hardwickclothes.com > > hardmail is, of course, the local user that the hardwickclothes.com E-mail > all goes to. Since none of the gimbelconstruction.com E-mail is going to a > local user, I'm not sure what to do here. > > Finally I killed and restarted Sendmail and tried sending mail to: > sales@gimbelconstruction.com. I get the standard error message: "The > Message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected by the > server. The rejected E-mail address was sales@gimbelconstruction.com ...... > Server response 'No Such User Here' ". > > What have I done wrong (or failed to do?)? Must I create local users then > alias the E-mail to the remote addresses (dgimbel@jellico.com and > gimbel@icx.net)? > > Thanks for your help, > > Lisa Casey, Webmaster > Interstate 2000, Inc. > lisa@jellico.com > webmaster@jellico.com > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 27 15: 7:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC4237B423; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veager.siteplus.net (user-38lc85j.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.32.179]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20971; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:07:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 18:07:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Lisa Casey Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sendmail: virtual hosts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry, I missed missed this the first time around. This should work with only the entry gimbelconstruction.com in sendmail.cw, and the entries sales@gimbelconstruction.com dgimbel@jellico.com dan@gimbelconstruction.com dgimbel@jellico.com webmaster@gimbelconstruction.com gimbel@icx.net @gimbelconstruction.com dgimbel@jellico.com in virtusertable. After rehashing the table and restarting sendmail. You shouldn't get the error on any gimbelconstruction.com address since you have the default @gimbelconstruction.com to fall back on. -- Jim Weeks On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Jim Weeks wrote: > I noticed that you mentioned the entry for hardwickclothes.com in > sendmail.cw, but did not say you hade one for gimbelconstruction.com. Was > this just an oversight, or is gimbelconstruction.com not listed in > sendmail.cw? > > It must be in sendmail.cw for you machine to accept mail bound for this > domain. > > -- > Jim Weeks > > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Lisa Casey wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > This is a Sendmail problem but I hope someone here can help me. I'm running > > Sendmail 8.9.3 on FreeBSD 3.2 > > > > My FBSD box accepts mail for the virtual domain hardwickclothes.com and > > sends that E-mail to the local user hardmail. This works just fine. > > > > Now I want to set up E-mail for another virtual domain, > > gimbelconstruction.com. This domain needs three E-mail addresses: > > sales@gimbelconstruction.com, dan@gimbelconstruction.com, and > > webmaster@gimbelconstruction.com The sales and dan E-mail need to go to > > dgimbel@jellico.com. The webmaster E-mail needs to go to gimbel@icx.net > > > > My /etc/mail/virtusertable now looks like this: > > > > @hardwickclothes.com hardmail > > sales@gimbelconstruction.com dgimbel@jellico.com > > dan@gimbelconstruction.com dgimbel@jellico.com > > webmaster@gimbelconstruction.com gimbel@icx.net > > @gimbelconstruction.com dgimbel@jellico.com > > > > > > Those are tabs between the fields. In the last one it sure doesnt look like > > a tab, but I deleted it and redid it three times, so I dunno... I typed a > > tab... > > > > I added the domain gimbelconstruction.com to /etc/mail/sendmail.cw and to > > /etc/mail/relay-domains and to /etc/sendmail.cG I didn't do anything with > > /etc/aliases, but don't think I need to. I also haven't done anything with > > /etc/genericstable yet. Not sure what to do there. That file currently has > > one entry in it: > > > > hardmail @hardwickclothes.com > > > > hardmail is, of course, the local user that the hardwickclothes.com E-mail > > all goes to. Since none of the gimbelconstruction.com E-mail is going to a > > local user, I'm not sure what to do here. > > > > Finally I killed and restarted Sendmail and tried sending mail to: > > sales@gimbelconstruction.com. I get the standard error message: "The > > Message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected by the > > server. The rejected E-mail address was sales@gimbelconstruction.com ...... > > Server response 'No Such User Here' ". > > > > What have I done wrong (or failed to do?)? Must I create local users then > > alias the E-mail to the remote addresses (dgimbel@jellico.com and > > gimbel@icx.net)? > > > > Thanks for your help, > > > > Lisa Casey, Webmaster > > Interstate 2000, Inc. > > lisa@jellico.com > > webmaster@jellico.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 27 17:46:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from athserv.otenet.gr (athserv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3A537B42C; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b051.otenet.gr [195.167.121.179]) by athserv.otenet.gr (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e8S0j8429288; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 03:45:09 +0300 (EET DST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e8S0em003886; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 03:40:48 +0300 (EEST) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 03:40:48 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Lisa Casey Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sendmail: virtual hosts Message-ID: <20000928034048.A3780@hades.hell.gr> References: <00b901c02899$0779bd20$be32a0cd@lisa.jellico.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <00b901c02899$0779bd20$be32a0cd@lisa.jellico.com>; from lisa@jellico.com on Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 11:38:40AM -0400 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3A 75 52 EB F1 58 56 0D - C5 B8 21 B6 1B 5E 4A C2 X-URL: http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~keramida/index.html Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 11:38:40AM -0400, Lisa Casey wrote: > Hi, > > This is a Sendmail problem but I hope someone here can help me. I'm > running Sendmail 8.9.3 on FreeBSD 3.2 > > My FBSD box accepts mail for the virtual domain hardwickclothes.com and > sends that E-mail to the local user hardmail. This works just fine. To install a virtual domain called hell.gr to a machine today, I took the following steps: 0. Set up the DNS server to point the primary MX record to the machine, and the secondary MX record to some other machine. 1. Add FEATURE(`virtusertable', `-o /etc/mail/virtusertable') to my master-config file, and regenerate my sendmail.cf file. % cd ~/sendmail % vi gray.mc [ add FEATURE(`virtusertable', `-o /etc/mail/virtusertable') ] % make gray.cf [ ./Makefile takes care of generating gray.cf from gray.mc ] 2. Copy my new configuration to /etc/mail/sendmail.cf 3. Add "hell.gr" to the /etc/mail/sendmail.cw file. 4. Add a line that allows relaying from the secondary MX for the domain in /etc/mail/access. # cd /etc/mail # vi access [ add a line: secondary.mx.host.name.gr RELAY ] # makemap hash access < access 5. Edit /etc/mail/virtusertable and add a line that contains: dns@hell.gr charon@localhost postmaster@hell.gr charon@localhost info@hell.gr charon@localhost 6. Generate the virtusertable.db file: # makemap hash virtusertable < virtusertable 7. Restart Sendmail: # killall -hup sendmail That's all there was to it. I could then send mail to info@hell.gr and have Sendmail correctly forward it to the local user that is responsible for that domain, i.e. "charon". The setup of procmail to separate the mail messages to different folders for info@hell.gr, postmaster@hell.gr and dns@hell.gr, was trivial. The rules were: DEFAULT=$HOME/mail/00.inbox :0 H * ^TOdns@hell.gr 01.hell.gr-dns :0 H * ^TOinfo@hell.gr 01.hell.gr-info :0 H * ^TOpostmaster@hell.gr 01.hell.gr-postmaster Then, all was ready to work properly. - - -- --- ----- -------- ------------- --------------------- Giorgos Keramidas, < keramida @ ceid . upatras . gr > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 27 18:34:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.sheltonbbs.com (mail.sheltonbbs.com [206.196.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2BE3837B423 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 18:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21446 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2000 01:46:09 -0000 Received: from systemadmin.sheltonbbs.com (63.102.140.17) by mail.sheltonbbs.com with SMTP; 28 Sep 2000 01:46:09 -0000 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 20:34:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Butch Evans X-Sender: root@systemadmin.sheltonbbs.com To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: WaveLan wireless Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Any one have tips on using the WaveLan Wireless PCMCIA cards on freebsd? I am running 4.1-STABLE, and have added both the support for the wavelan driver and pccard support to the kernel. I have not actually added the hardware to the computer, but wanted any tips folks may have. The docs that I have seen have indicated that these drivers only support the 2MB and 6MB cards. Do they also support the 11Mb systems? Thanks. -- Butch Evans Shelton Internet Network Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 27 23:55: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF03D37B424 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 23:55:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA07216; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 00:00:38 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 00:00:38 -0600 (MDT) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: Butch Evans Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WaveLan wireless In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Butch Evans wrote: > Any one have tips on using the WaveLan Wireless PCMCIA cards on > freebsd? I am running 4.1-STABLE, and have added both the support > for the wavelan driver and pccard support to the kernel. I have not > actually added the hardware to the computer, but wanted any tips > folks may have. The docs that I have seen have indicated that these > drivers only support the 2MB and 6MB cards. Do they also support the > 11Mb systems? Thanks. The 11mb cards give weird errors (oversize packet recieved) on the 3.4ish stuff (Looks like it's been patched since then) but seem to work great on the 4.1 stuff. I have a floppy-based picobsd derived router/nat box solution I'm selling which is 3.4 based. I have about 30-40 of them out there with wireless cards as the internet-facing interface and they work great. (That's what I'm connected with right now) - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 28 6:54:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from server.comnix.com (ns1.comnix.com [195.196.30.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D0E9137B422 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 06:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15454 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2000 13:54:12 -0000 Received: from lb36-utv-sto.telia.net (HELO veidit.net) (@193.44.56.36) by ns1.comnix.com with SMTP; 28 Sep 2000 13:54:12 -0000 Message-ID: <39D34D76.6671EBCB@veidit.net> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:53:59 +0200 From: John Angelmo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: sv, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Audio/Video conference? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi I'm intresed in a Audio/Video conference server for freebsd so I can connect trough work with (for example) netmeeting.. Do you have any ideas? /John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 28 14: 3:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from server.comnix.com (ns1.comnix.com [195.196.30.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CF8CB37B422 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 29924 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2000 21:03:23 -0000 Received: from t8o41p56.telia.com (HELO veidit.net) (195.67.253.236) by ns1.comnix.com with SMTP; 28 Sep 2000 21:03:23 -0000 Message-ID: <39D3B1DE.ED5E9EB6@veidit.net> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:02:22 +0200 From: John Angelmo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: sv, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Audio/Video conference? References: <39D34D76.6671EBCB@veidit.net> <001701c02997$00c22d60$0401a8c0@actweb.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi thanks for all the answers.. the problem ( I forgot ) is that we also need to share desktop.. some has videocams For shared desctop: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/index.html But as a free widecoam share service hmm I have no idea.. sorry /John Matthew Horoschun wrote: > > Hi John, > > See OpenPhone.Org > > (Havn't tried any of it... been looking though) > > Cheers > > Matthew > > -- > Matthew Horoschun, Network Administrator > ActWEB.NET Pty. Ltd. / http://www.actweb.net/ > > Mobile: +61-0417-282-378 > Office: +61-2-6295-4488 > Facsimile: +61-2-6295-9115 > > > > > > > Hi > > > > I'm intresed in a Audio/Video conference server for freebsd so I can > > connect trough work with (for example) netmeeting.. > > > > Do you have any ideas? > > > > /John > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 28 18:33:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from digitaldaemon.com (digitaldaemon.com [63.105.9.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E01F937B42C for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 18:33:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8770 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2000 00:31:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smartsoft.cc) (192.168.0.73) by digitaldaemon.com with SMTP; 28 Sep 2000 00:31:01 -0000 Message-ID: <39D29187.75CAB6F1@smartsoft.cc> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 20:32:07 -0400 From: Jan Knepper Organization: Smartsoft, LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD ISP , FreeBSD Questions Subject: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I just wondered if any DNS specialists out here could give me a hand to a pointer as what to do DNS-wise when I want domain1.com and domain1.net to point to the same IP. I have noticed that freebsd.org, freebsd.com and freebsd.net al seem to give the same site. I know I can make a dirty change in my DNS and have domain1.net point to the same IP, but what about reverse DNS? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Don't worry, be Kneppie! Jan -- Jan Knepper Smartsoft, LLC 88 Petersburg Road Petersburg, NJ 08270 U.S.A. http://www.smartsoft.cc/ http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess Phone : 609-628-4260 FAX : 609-628-1267 FAX : 303-845-6415 http://www.fax4free.com/ Phone : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) FAX : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 28 19:24: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from digitaldaemon.com (digitaldaemon.com [63.105.9.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 84E4D37B632 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:19:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8509 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2000 21:51:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smartsoft.cc) (192.168.0.73) by digitaldaemon.com with SMTP; 27 Sep 2000 21:51:05 -0000 Message-ID: <39D26C0A.BD338AC8@smartsoft.cc> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:52:10 -0400 From: Jan Knepper Organization: Smartsoft, LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD ISP , FreeBSD Questions Subject: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I just wondered if any DNS specialists out here could give me a hand to a pointer as what to do DNS-wise when I want domain1.com and domain1.net to point to the same IP. I have noticed that freebsd.org, freebsd.com and freebsd.net al seem to give the same site. I know I can make a dirty change in my DNS and have domain1.net point to the same IP, but what about reverse DNS? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Don't worry, be Kneppie! Jan -- Jan Knepper Smartsoft, LLC 88 Petersburg Road Petersburg, NJ 08270 U.S.A. http://www.smartsoft.cc/ http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess Phone : 609-628-4260 FAX : 609-628-1267 FAX : 303-845-6415 http://www.fax4free.com/ Phone : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) FAX : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 28 19:38:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from digitaldaemon.com (digitaldaemon.com [63.105.9.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 72F5337B42C for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:38:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 9154 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2000 04:49:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smartsoft.cc) (192.168.0.73) by digitaldaemon.com with SMTP; 28 Sep 2000 04:49:31 -0000 Message-ID: <39D2CE1D.B3AC339F@smartsoft.cc> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 00:50:37 -0400 From: Jan Knepper Organization: Smartsoft, LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD ISP , FreeBSD Questions Subject: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I just wondered if any DNS specialists out here could give me a hand to a pointer as what to do DNS-wise when I want domain1.com and domain1.net to point to the same IP. I have noticed that freebsd.org, freebsd.com and freebsd.net al seem to give the same site. I know I can make a dirty change in my DNS and have domain1.net point to the same IP, but what about reverse DNS? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Don't worry, be Kneppie! Jan -- Jan Knepper Smartsoft, LLC 88 Petersburg Road Petersburg, NJ 08270 U.S.A. http://www.smartsoft.cc/ http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess Phone : 609-628-4260 FAX : 609-628-1267 FAX : 303-845-6415 http://www.fax4free.com/ Phone : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) FAX : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 28 19:42:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from oak.drexeltech.com (oak.drexeltech.com [64.39.31.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD0737B422; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sporto.johnturner.com (w220.z208176108.det-mi.dsl.cnc.net [208.176.108.220]) by oak.drexeltech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA34762; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:57:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from john@johnturner.com) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000928223946.00aa6b30@mail.johnturner.com> X-Sender: jturner@mail.johnturner.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:42:07 -0400 To: Jan Knepper , FreeBSD ISP , FreeBSD Questions From: John Turner Subject: Re: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. In-Reply-To: <39D29187.75CAB6F1@smartsoft.cc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org For Reverse DNS, just pick one of them, it doesn't matter which, as long as everyone else can get a valid answer on the reverse lookup you will be set. Also, having multiple domains point to a single IP address isn't "dirty". It's done all the time. Hope this helps. - John Turner At 08:32 PM 9/27/00, Jan Knepper wrote: >Hi, > >I just wondered if any DNS specialists out here could give me a >hand to a pointer as what to do DNS-wise when I want domain1.com >and domain1.net to point to the same IP. I have noticed that >freebsd.org, freebsd.com and freebsd.net al seem to give the >same site. > >I know I can make a dirty change in my DNS and have domain1.net >point to the same IP, but what about reverse DNS? > >Any suggestions would be appreciated. > >Don't worry, be Kneppie! >Jan > >-- >Jan Knepper >Smartsoft, LLC >88 Petersburg Road >Petersburg, NJ 08270 >U.S.A. > >http://www.smartsoft.cc/ >http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess > >Phone : 609-628-4260 >FAX : 609-628-1267 >FAX : 303-845-6415 http://www.fax4free.com/ > >Phone : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) >FAX : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) > >In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 28 19:55:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from digitaldaemon.com (digitaldaemon.com [63.105.9.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EF94C37B422 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:55:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10120 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2000 15:46:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smartsoft.cc) (192.168.0.73) by digitaldaemon.com with SMTP; 28 Sep 2000 15:46:25 -0000 Message-ID: <39D36813.CCD91AE9@smartsoft.cc> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:47:31 -0400 From: Jan Knepper Organization: Smartsoft, LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD ISP , FreeBSD Questions Subject: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I just wondered if any DNS specialists out here could give me a hand to a pointer as what to do DNS-wise when I want domain1.com and domain1.net to point to the same IP. I have noticed that freebsd.org, freebsd.com and freebsd.net al seem to give the same site. I know I can make a dirty change in my DNS and have domain1.net point to the same IP, but what about reverse DNS? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Don't worry, be Kneppie! Jan -- Jan Knepper Smartsoft, LLC 88 Petersburg Road Petersburg, NJ 08270 U.S.A. http://www.smartsoft.cc/ http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess Phone : 609-628-4260 FAX : 609-628-1267 FAX : 303-845-6415 http://www.fax4free.com/ Phone : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) FAX : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 28 19:57:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from digitaldaemon.com (digitaldaemon.com [63.105.9.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E4EE437B423 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:57:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8598 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2000 22:28:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smartsoft.cc) (192.168.0.73) by digitaldaemon.com with SMTP; 27 Sep 2000 22:28:49 -0000 Message-ID: <39D274E3.4FF6BD07@smartsoft.cc> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 18:29:55 -0400 From: Jan Knepper Organization: Smartsoft, LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD ISP , FreeBSD Questions Subject: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I just wondered if any DNS specialists out here could give me a hand to a pointer as what to do DNS-wise when I want domain1.com and domain1.net to point to the same IP. I have noticed that freebsd.org, freebsd.com and freebsd.net al seem to give the same site. I know I can make a dirty change in my DNS and have domain1.net point to the same IP, but what about reverse DNS? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Don't worry, be Kneppie! Jan -- Jan Knepper Smartsoft, LLC 88 Petersburg Road Petersburg, NJ 08270 U.S.A. http://www.smartsoft.cc/ http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess Phone : 609-628-4260 FAX : 609-628-1267 FAX : 303-845-6415 http://www.fax4free.com/ Phone : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) FAX : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 28 20:32:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from digitaldaemon.com (digitaldaemon.com [63.105.9.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A1ED37B423 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 20:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5937 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2000 16:43:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smartsoft.cc) (192.168.0.73) by digitaldaemon.com with SMTP; 26 Sep 2000 16:43:05 -0000 Message-ID: <39D0D259.DA15280C@smartsoft.cc> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:44:09 -0400 From: Jan Knepper Organization: Smartsoft, LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD ISP , FreeBSD Questions Subject: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I just wondered if any DNS specialists out here could give me a hand to a pointer as what to do DNS-wise when I want domain1.com and domain1.net to point to the same IP. I have noticed that freebsd.org, freebsd.com and freebsd.net al seem to give the same site. I know I can make a dirty change in my DNS and have domain1.net point to the same IP, but what about reverse DNS? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Don't worry, be Kneppie! Jan -- Jan Knepper Smartsoft, LLC 88 Petersburg Road Petersburg, NJ 08270 U.S.A. http://www.smartsoft.cc/ http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess Phone : 609-628-4260 FAX : 609-628-1267 FAX : 303-845-6415 http://www.fax4free.com/ Phone : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) FAX : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 28 20:47:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from digitaldaemon.com (digitaldaemon.com [63.105.9.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C19637B423 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 20:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8012 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2000 15:45:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smartsoft.cc) (192.168.0.73) by digitaldaemon.com with SMTP; 27 Sep 2000 15:45:37 -0000 Message-ID: <39D2165E.DC6447BD@smartsoft.cc> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:46:38 -0400 From: Jan Knepper Organization: Smartsoft, LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD ISP , FreeBSD Questions Subject: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I just wondered if any DNS specialists out here could give me a hand to a pointer as what to do DNS-wise when I want domain1.com and domain1.net to point to the same IP. I have noticed that freebsd.org, freebsd.com and freebsd.net al seem to give the same site. I know I can make a dirty change in my DNS and have domain1.net point to the same IP, but what about reverse DNS? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Don't worry, be Kneppie! Jan -- Jan Knepper Smartsoft, LLC 88 Petersburg Road Petersburg, NJ 08270 U.S.A. http://www.smartsoft.cc/ http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess Phone : 609-628-4260 FAX : 609-628-1267 FAX : 303-845-6415 http://www.fax4free.com/ Phone : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) FAX : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 28 20:59:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from digitaldaemon.com (digitaldaemon.com [63.105.9.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0BECC37B422 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 20:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8289 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2000 19:50:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smartsoft.cc) (192.168.0.73) by digitaldaemon.com with SMTP; 27 Sep 2000 19:50:39 -0000 Message-ID: <39D24FD1.4D9B7B1A@smartsoft.cc> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:51:45 -0400 From: Jan Knepper Organization: Smartsoft, LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD ISP , FreeBSD Questions Subject: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I just wondered if any DNS specialists out here could give me a hand to a pointer as what to do DNS-wise when I want domain1.com and domain1.net to point to the same IP. I have noticed that freebsd.org, freebsd.com and freebsd.net al seem to give the same site. I know I can make a dirty change in my DNS and have domain1.net point to the same IP, but what about reverse DNS? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Don't worry, be Kneppie! Jan -- Jan Knepper Smartsoft, LLC 88 Petersburg Road Petersburg, NJ 08270 U.S.A. http://www.smartsoft.cc/ http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess Phone : 609-628-4260 FAX : 609-628-1267 FAX : 303-845-6415 http://www.fax4free.com/ Phone : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) FAX : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 28 21:12:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from digitaldaemon.com (digitaldaemon.com [63.105.9.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9215E37B423 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11373 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2000 04:10:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smartsoft.cc) (192.168.0.73) by digitaldaemon.com with SMTP; 29 Sep 2000 04:10:14 -0000 Message-ID: <39D41668.E54A8821@smartsoft.cc> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 00:11:20 -0400 From: Jan Knepper Organization: Smartsoft, LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey Cc: FreeBSD ISP , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. References: <39D24FD1.4D9B7B1A@smartsoft.cc> <20000929133055.I4293@wantadilla.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry for the multiple post guys... UUnet forgot to setup the reverse-DNS and for that reason qmail appearantly wasn't able to deliver messages to postfix running at freebsd.org. Once the reverse-DNS was setup properly, the messages I resend still seemed to be queued as they all hit this lists. Sorry about that. Jan Greg Lehey wrote: > On Wednesday, 27 September 2000 at 15:51:45 -0400, Jan Knepper wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I just wondered if any DNS specialists out here could give me a > > hand to a pointer as what to do DNS-wise when I want domain1.com > > and domain1.net to point to the same IP. I have noticed that > > freebsd.org, freebsd.com and freebsd.net al seem to give the > > same site. > > Would you please shut up? This is at least the tenth copy of this > message that I have seen. You're not going to make people want to > answer your question like this. > > Greg > -- > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > See complete headers for address and phone numbers -- Jan Knepper Smartsoft, LLC 88 Petersburg Road Petersburg, NJ 08270 U.S.A. http://www.smartsoft.cc/ http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess Phone : 609-628-4260 FAX : 609-628-1267 FAX : 303-845-6415 http://www.fax4free.com/ Phone : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) FAX : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 28 21:17:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from digitaldaemon.com (digitaldaemon.com [63.105.9.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5380237B424 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6576 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2000 22:28:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smartsoft.cc) (192.168.0.73) by digitaldaemon.com with SMTP; 26 Sep 2000 22:28:43 -0000 Message-ID: <39D1235B.B1508C4F@smartsoft.cc> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:29:48 -0400 From: Jan Knepper Organization: Smartsoft, LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD ISP , FreeBSD Questions Subject: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. References: <39D0D259.DA15280C@smartsoft.cc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I just wondered if any DNS specialists out here could give me a hand to a pointer as what to do DNS-wise when I want domain1.com and domain1.net to point to the same IP. I have noticed that freebsd.org, freebsd.com and freebsd.net al seem to give the same site. I know I can make a dirty change in my DNS and have domain1.net point to the same IP, but what about reverse DNS? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Don't worry, be Kneppie! Jan -- Jan Knepper Smartsoft, LLC 88 Petersburg Road Petersburg, NJ 08270 U.S.A. http://www.smartsoft.cc/ http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess Phone : 609-628-4260 FAX : 609-628-1267 FAX : 303-845-6415 http://www.fax4free.com/ Phone : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) FAX : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 28 21:20:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from digitaldaemon.com (digitaldaemon.com [63.105.9.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B56437B43E for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6586 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2000 22:31:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smartsoft.cc) (192.168.0.73) by digitaldaemon.com with SMTP; 26 Sep 2000 22:31:24 -0000 Message-ID: <39D123FD.E7CE16D@smartsoft.cc> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:32:29 -0400 From: Jan Knepper Organization: Smartsoft, LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD ISP , FreeBSD Questions Subject: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I just wondered if any DNS specialists out here could give me a hand to a pointer as what to do DNS-wise when I want domain1.com and domain1.net to point to the same IP. I have noticed that freebsd.org, freebsd.com and freebsd.net al seem to give the same site. I know I can make a dirty change in my DNS and have domain1.net point to the same IP, but what about reverse DNS? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Don't worry, be Kneppie! Jan -- Jan Knepper Smartsoft, LLC 88 Petersburg Road Petersburg, NJ 08270 U.S.A. http://www.smartsoft.cc/ http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess Phone : 609-628-4260 FAX : 609-628-1267 FAX : 303-845-6415 http://www.fax4free.com/ Phone : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) FAX : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 28 21:36:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from digitaldaemon.com (digitaldaemon.com [63.105.9.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 602FA37B422 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6645 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2000 22:47:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitaldaemon.com) (192.168.0.73) by digitaldaemon.com with SMTP; 26 Sep 2000 22:47:35 -0000 Message-ID: <39D127C8.52F16A06@digitaldaemon.com> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:48:40 -0400 From: Jan Knepper X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I just wondered if any DNS specialists out here could give me a hand to a pointer as what to do DNS-wise when I want domain1.com and domain1.net to point to the same IP. I have noticed that freebsd.org, freebsd.com and freebsd.net al seem to give the same site. I know I can make a dirty change in my DNS and have domain1.net point to the same IP, but what about reverse DNS? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Don't worry, be Kneppie! Jan -- Jan Knepper Smartsoft, LLC 88 Petersburg Road Petersburg, NJ 08270 U.S.A. http://www.smartsoft.cc/ http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess Phone : 609-628-4260 FAX : 609-628-1267 FAX : 303-845-6415 http://www.fax4free.com/ Phone : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) FAX : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 28 22: 3:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from digitaldaemon.com (digitaldaemon.com [63.105.9.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 377C237B422 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7115 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2000 04:01:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smartsoft.cc) (192.168.0.73) by digitaldaemon.com with SMTP; 27 Sep 2000 04:01:29 -0000 Message-ID: <39D17159.48253722@smartsoft.cc> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 00:02:33 -0400 From: Jan Knepper Organization: Smartsoft, LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD ISP , FreeBSD Questions Subject: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I just wondered if any DNS specialists out here could give me a hand to a pointer as what to do DNS-wise when I want domain1.com and domain1.net to point to the same IP. I have noticed that freebsd.org, freebsd.com and freebsd.net al seem to give the same site. I know I can make a dirty change in my DNS and have domain1.net point to the same IP, but what about reverse DNS? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Don't worry, be Kneppie! Jan -- Jan Knepper Smartsoft, LLC 88 Petersburg Road Petersburg, NJ 08270 U.S.A. http://www.smartsoft.cc/ http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess Phone : 609-628-4260 FAX : 609-628-1267 FAX : 303-845-6415 http://www.fax4free.com/ Phone : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) FAX : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 28 22: 4:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EE937B422; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (1053 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:48:45 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.111 2000-Feb-17 #1 built 2000-Jun-25) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:48:44 -0500 (CDT) From: James Wyatt To: Jan Knepper Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. In-Reply-To: <39D127C8.52F16A06@digitaldaemon.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org And one to grow on! On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Jan Knepper wrote: > Hi, > > I just wondered if any DNS specialists out here could give me a hand to a > pointer as what to do DNS-wise when I want domain1.com and domain1.net to > point to the same IP. I have noticed that freebsd.org, freebsd.com and > freebsd.net al seem to give the same site. [ has anyone else missed the rest of this? ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 28 22: 5:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F4D037B43F; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (2075 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:54:36 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.111 2000-Feb-17 #1 built 2000-Jun-25) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:54:36 -0500 (CDT) From: James Wyatt To: Jan Knepper Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. In-Reply-To: <39D127C8.52F16A06@digitaldaemon.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Jan Knepper wrote: > I just wondered if any DNS specialists out here could give me a hand to a > pointer as what to do DNS-wise when I want domain1.com and domain1.net to > point to the same IP. I have noticed that freebsd.org, freebsd.com and > freebsd.net al seem to give the same site. > > I know I can make a dirty change in my DNS and have domain1.net point to the > same IP, but what about reverse DNS? The reverse addresses all seem to point to the *.freebsd.org hosts and the *.freebsd.net and *.freebsd.com entries are just CNAMEs that point to *.freebsd.org A records. At least that's what I get from typing: [jwyatt@hotbox /tmp]: host www.freebsd.com www.freebsd.com is a nickname for www.freebsd.org www.freebsd.org is a nickname for freefall.FreeBSD.org freefall.FreeBSD.org has address 216.136.204.21 freefall.FreeBSD.org mail is handled (pri=10) by hub.FreeBSD.org [jwyatt@hotbox /tmp]: host freefall.FreeBSD.org freefall.FreeBSD.org has address 216.136.204.21 freefall.FreeBSD.org mail is handled (pri=10) by hub.FreeBSD.org [jwyatt@hotbox /tmp]: host freefall.FreeBSD.net Host not found. [jwyatt@hotbox /tmp]: host hub.freebsd.org hub.freebsd.org has address 216.136.204.18 hub.freebsd.org mail is handled (pri=10) by hub.freebsd.org [jwyatt@hotbox /tmp]: host hub.freebsd.net Host not found. If it's wrong, please Cc: me on the solution... - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 28 22: 5:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FBAF37B42C; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:04:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (2332 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 00:01:39 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.111 2000-Feb-17 #1 built 2000-Jun-25) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 00:01:39 -0500 (CDT) From: James Wyatt To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Need some help with PPPoE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org EEEdgar AAAllen PPPoE seems more like it... (^_^) We've put the netgraph stuff into the kernel (but I don't see anything special in dmesg) and configured the device to be PPPoE:ed0, set dial and login to blank, put the correct name and password in, and still get a log like this: ======================= Sep 28 18:59:29 cactusbox ppp[389]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Enter pause (30) for redialing. Sep 28 18:59:59 cactusbox ppp[389]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Redial timer expired. Sep 28 18:59:59 cactusbox ppp[389]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connected! Sep 28 18:59:59 cactusbox ppp[389]: tun0: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial Sep 28 18:59:59 cactusbox ppp[389]: tun0: Phase: deflink: dial -> carrier Sep 28 19:00:00 cactusbox ppp[389]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Disconnected! Sep 28 19:00:00 cactusbox ppp[389]: tun0: Phase: deflink: carrier -> hangup Sep 28 19:00:00 cactusbox ppp[389]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 1 secs: 0 octets in, 0 octets out Sep 28 19:00:00 cactusbox ppp[389]: tun0: Phase: total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0 bytes/sec on Thu Sep 28 19:00:00 2000 Sep 28 19:00:00 cactusbox ppp[389]: tun0: Phase: deflink: hangup -> opening Sep 28 19:00:00 cactusbox ppp[389]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Enter pause (30) for redialing. ======================= We've turned logging on and need to know what we can debug with next. Using tcpdump on the tun0 device doesn't show anything, of course, and I'm pretty sure we've added the PPP_FILTER in the kernel build, but I'm not in front of it right now. If I did, I'd include ppp.conf. The OS is 3.4-RELEASE from my WCCD ROM pack, but I'll try to upgrade when it's online. Is the age of the OS enough that I should just reinstall with 4v1 or 4v1r1? I'd like to avoid that for now... I'm trying to help a friend and would appreciate some help myself! - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 28 22:58:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dh198-236.dhcp.sunysb.edu (dh198-236.dhcp.sunysb.edu [129.49.198.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F29E37B422; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:58:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by dh198-236.dhcp.sunysb.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA06653; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 01:58:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris) From: Christopher Rued MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14804.12144.461757.516919@chris.xsb.com> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 01:58:08 -0400 (EDT) To: FreeBSD ISP , FreeBSD Questions Subject: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. In-Reply-To: <39D24FD1.4D9B7B1A@smartsoft.cc> References: <39D24FD1.4D9B7B1A@smartsoft.cc> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has everyone else seen this message about 10 times, too? Jan Knepper writes: > Hi, > > I just wondered if any DNS specialists out here could give me a > hand to a pointer as what to do DNS-wise when I want domain1.com > and domain1.net to point to the same IP. I have noticed that > freebsd.org, freebsd.com and freebsd.net al seem to give the > same site. > > I know I can make a dirty change in my DNS and have domain1.net > point to the same IP, but what about reverse DNS? > > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > Don't worry, be Kneppie! > Jan > > -- > Jan Knepper > Smartsoft, LLC > 88 Petersburg Road > Petersburg, NJ 08270 > U.S.A. > > http://www.smartsoft.cc/ > http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess > > Phone : 609-628-4260 > FAX : 609-628-1267 > FAX : 303-845-6415 http://www.fax4free.com/ > > Phone : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) > FAX : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) > > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 29 4:53:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7719C37B424; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 04:53:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA73684; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:53:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:53:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Hovey To: Christopher Rued Cc: FreeBSD ISP , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. In-Reply-To: <14804.12144.461757.516919@chris.xsb.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org More than that! On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Christopher Rued wrote: > Has everyone else seen this message about 10 times, too? > Jan Knepper writes: > > Hi, > > > > I just wondered if any DNS specialists out here could give me a > > hand to a pointer as what to do DNS-wise when I want domain1.com > > and domain1.net to point to the same IP. I have noticed that > > freebsd.org, freebsd.com and freebsd.net al seem to give the > > same site. > > > > I know I can make a dirty change in my DNS and have domain1.net > > point to the same IP, but what about reverse DNS? > > > > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > > > Don't worry, be Kneppie! > > Jan > > > > -- > > Jan Knepper > > Smartsoft, LLC > > 88 Petersburg Road > > Petersburg, NJ 08270 > > U.S.A. > > > > http://www.smartsoft.cc/ > > http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess > > > > Phone : 609-628-4260 > > FAX : 609-628-1267 > > FAX : 303-845-6415 http://www.fax4free.com/ > > > > Phone : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) > > FAX : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) > > > > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > > -- Charles Forsythe > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 29 5: 4:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hq.seicom.net (hq.seicom.net [194.97.200.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80CA37B423; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 05:04:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andy by hq.seicom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA18402; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:04:03 +0200 (CEST) From: "Andy Wolf" To: "James Wyatt" , "Jan Knepper" Cc: , Subject: RE: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:03:29 +0200 Message-ID: <001301c02a0d$480b5ea0$f1d761c2@andy.seicom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, > The reverse addresses all seem to point to the *.freebsd.org hosts and the > *.freebsd.net and *.freebsd.com entries are just CNAMEs that point to > *.freebsd.org A records. just keep in mind that a CNAME doesn't allow MXs or even SOAs for the same label. Therefor a CNAME cannot be used for the zone itself. We have had some trouble with that a while ago. Nameserver lookups with "dig" do resolve correctly but "nslookup" tells that the answer is non-authoritativ if you use a CNAME for the zone like that: --- broken example ! @ IN SOA my.name.server my.host.master ... IN CNAME mail.my.zone mail IN A ... IN MX 100 ... --- broken example ! We use two A records now and therefor accept redundancy. The reverse lookup of course can only point to one of the labels. bye...Andy -- Andy Wolf, Software Development Baden-Wuerttemberg Nextra Baden-Wuerttemberg tel.: +49(0)711/6015-0 Communication Service Provider GmbH fax : +49(0)711/6015-199 Nadlerstr. 21, D-70173 Stuttgart ----- http://www.nextra.de ----- mailto:andy.wolf@nextra.de ----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 29 5:25:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8075A37B423; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 05:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veager.siteplus.net (1Cust36.tnt9.chattanooga.tn.da.uu.net [63.39.120.36]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA22297; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 05:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:24:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Andy Wolf Cc: James Wyatt , Jan Knepper , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. In-Reply-To: <001301c02a0d$480b5ea0$f1d761c2@andy.seicom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Andy Wolf wrote: > We use two A records now and therefor accept redundancy. The reverse lookup > of course can only point to one of the labels. The general consensus throughout the industry seems to be that C names are evil. I have never been bitten by just using A names. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 29 5:39:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from osiris.ipform.ru (osiris.ipform.ru [212.158.165.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A88FE37B422; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 05:37:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wp2 (wp2 [192.168.0.12]) by osiris.ipform.ru (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id e8TCZwR50192; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:36:04 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from matrix@ipform.ru) Message-ID: <038e01c02a11$e3121e80$0c00a8c0@ipform.ru> From: "Artem Koutchine" To: "Jim Weeks" , "Andy Wolf" Cc: "James Wyatt" , "Jan Knepper" , , References: Subject: Re: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:35:50 +0400 Organization: IP Form MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: "Jim Weeks" > > On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Andy Wolf wrote: > > > We use two A records now and therefor accept redundancy. The reverse lookup > > of course can only point to one of the labels. > > The general consensus throughout the industry seems to be that C names are > evil. > > I have never been bitten by just using A names. > I have. Revers lookup might fail and some secure smtp server and other daemons do not allow access if reverse lookup failes. For example: sux IN A 192.168.0.1 mustdie IN A 192.168.0.1 in the reverse zone we say 1 IN PTR sux nslookup mustdie gives 192.168.0.1 nslookup 192.168.0.1 gives 'sux' Artem To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 29 5:56: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91CD937B42C; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 05:56:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veager.siteplus.net (1Cust36.tnt9.chattanooga.tn.da.uu.net [63.39.120.36]) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA25545; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 05:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:55:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Artem Koutchine Cc: Andy Wolf , James Wyatt , Jan Knepper , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. In-Reply-To: <038e01c02a11$e3121e80$0c00a8c0@ipform.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Artem Koutchine wrote: > From: "Jim Weeks" > > > > On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Andy Wolf wrote: > > > > > We use two A records now and therefor accept redundancy. The reverse > lookup > > > of course can only point to one of the labels. > > > > The general consensus throughout the industry seems to be that C names are > > evil. > > > > I have never been bitten by just using A names. > > > > I have. Revers lookup might fail and some secure smtp server and other > daemons > do not allow access if reverse lookup failes. For example: What type of smtp setup would fail because the reverse lookup name did not match that of the virtual domain? Do you have an example of a daemon that would choke? Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 29 6:13:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from oak.drexeltech.com (oak.drexeltech.com [64.39.31.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA7F37B422; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 06:13:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elmo.johnturner.com (3ff8e366.dsl.flashcom.net [63.248.227.102]) by oak.drexeltech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA35751; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:28:40 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from john@johnturner.com) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000929090943.00b07008@mail.johnturner.com> X-Sender: jturner@mail.johnturner.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:13:33 -0400 To: Jim Weeks , Andy Wolf From: John Turner Subject: RE: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. Cc: James Wyatt , Jan Knepper , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <001301c02a0d$480b5ea0$f1d761c2@andy.seicom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 08:24 AM 9/29/2000 -0400, Jim Weeks wrote: >The general consensus throughout the industry seems to be that C names are >evil. I've never heard this. CNAME records have a very specific use, when used that way they work great. CNAME records are for roles, not hosts. If I had to use A records for all of my DNS records, it would take hours of management per week. Once I have A records in place, I use CNAMEs, this makes changes very easy. >I have never been bitten by just using A names. True, to a point. Get hundreds of A records, and you'll get bit by not having enough time in the day to keep everything straight. - John Turner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 29 6:26:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4045637B422; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 06:26:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veager.siteplus.net (1Cust36.tnt9.chattanooga.tn.da.uu.net [63.39.120.36]) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA28395; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 06:25:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:25:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: John Turner Cc: Andy Wolf , James Wyatt , Jan Knepper , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20000929090943.00b07008@mail.johnturner.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, John Turner wrote: > At 08:24 AM 9/29/2000 -0400, Jim Weeks wrote: > > >The general consensus throughout the industry seems to be that C names are > >evil. > > I've never heard this. CNAME records have a very specific use, when used > that way they work great. CNAME records are for roles, not hosts. If I > had to use A records for all of my DNS records, it would take hours of > management per week. Once I have A records in place, I use CNAMEs, this > makes changes very easy. > > > >I have never been bitten by just using A names. > > True, to a point. Get hundreds of A records, and you'll get bit by not > having enough time in the day to keep everything straight. I'm not sure I understand how adding an A record is any more time consuming than adding a C record. How are they harder to keep strait? I may be doing unnecessary work. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 29 6:55:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.shawneelink.net (ns.shawneelink.net [216.240.66.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455A737B422; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 06:55:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.shawneelink.net (ns.shawneelink.net [216.240.66.11]) by ns.shawneelink.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e8TDspL09667; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:54:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:54:51 -0500 (CDT) From: J Bacher X-Sender: jb@ns.shawneelink.net To: Jim Weeks Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Andy Wolf wrote: > > > We use two A records now and therefor accept redundancy. The reverse lookup > > of course can only point to one of the labels. > > The general consensus throughout the industry seems to be that C names are > evil. > > I have never been bitten by just using A names. The efficiency of the CNAME record is that is eliminates oversight when re-IPing a network, subnetwork or group of servers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 29 7: 2:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from digitaldaemon.com (digitaldaemon.com [63.105.9.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9DE1837B423 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 12631 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2000 14:00:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smartsoft.cc) (192.168.0.73) by digitaldaemon.com with SMTP; 29 Sep 2000 14:00:31 -0000 Message-ID: <39D4A0C2.2F93A24C@smartsoft.cc> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:01:38 -0400 From: Jan Knepper Organization: Smartsoft, LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Weeks Cc: Artem Koutchine , Andy Wolf , James Wyatt , Jan Knepper , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jim Weeks wrote: > On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Artem Koutchine wrote: > > > From: "Jim Weeks" > > > > > > On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Andy Wolf wrote: > > > > > > > We use two A records now and therefor accept redundancy. The reverse > > lookup > > > > of course can only point to one of the labels. > > > > > > The general consensus throughout the industry seems to be that C names are > > > evil. > > > > > > I have never been bitten by just using A names. > > > > > > > I have. Revers lookup might fail and some secure smtp server and other > > daemons > > do not allow access if reverse lookup failes. For example: > > What type of smtp setup would fail because the reverse lookup name did not > match that of the virtual domain? > > Do you have an example of a daemon that would choke? No an example of a daemon that would choke, but UUnet didn't have my reverse-DNS setup so the reverse lookup's didn't work. For that reason I resend (this) messages, because I didn't see it appear on the list. Appearantly SMTP (as postfix) checks via a reverse lookup whether or not a host really exists. When it does not, it does not accept the message. Don't worry, be Kneppie! Jan -- Jan Knepper Smartsoft, LLC 88 Petersburg Road Petersburg, NJ 08270 U.S.A. http://www.smartsoft.cc/ http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess Phone : 609-628-4260 FAX : 609-628-1267 FAX : 303-845-6415 http://www.fax4free.com/ Phone : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) FAX : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 29 7: 8:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2859C37B624; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veager.siteplus.net (1Cust36.tnt9.chattanooga.tn.da.uu.net [63.39.120.36]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA24221; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:08:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:08:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: J Bacher Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, J Bacher wrote: > > > On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Andy Wolf wrote: > > > > > We use two A records now and therefor accept redundancy. The reverse lookup > > > of course can only point to one of the labels. > > > > The general consensus throughout the industry seems to be that C names are > > evil. > > > > I have never been bitten by just using A names. > > > The efficiency of the CNAME record is that is eliminates oversight when > re-IPing a network, subnetwork or group of servers. Agreed... I could also see this subject turning into a HOLY war. Similar to that of how small reverse blocks of IP's should be handled. Cheers, Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 29 7:14:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB7937B422; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veager.siteplus.net (1Cust36.tnt9.chattanooga.tn.da.uu.net [63.39.120.36]) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12702; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:14:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Jan Knepper Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. In-Reply-To: <39D4A0C2.2F93A24C@smartsoft.cc> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Jan Knepper wrote: > No an example of a daemon that would choke, but UUnet didn't have my reverse-DNS > setup so the reverse lookup's didn't work. > > For that reason I resend (this) messages, because I didn't see it appear on the > list. > > Appearantly SMTP (as postfix) checks via a reverse lookup whether or not a host > really exists. When it does not, it does not accept the message. I guess my point is that what you are describing would fail with CNAMES as well. Reverse lookups are like Highlanders. "There can be only one." Cheers, Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 29 7:24:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6270437B422; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (2397 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:05:12 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.111 2000-Feb-17 #1 built 2000-Jun-25) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:05:12 -0500 (CDT) From: James Wyatt To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: John Turner , Andy Wolf , Jan Knepper , Jim Weeks Subject: RE: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Jim Weeks wrote: > Subject: RE: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. > On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, John Turner wrote: > > At 08:24 AM 9/29/2000 -0400, Jim Weeks wrote: > > >The general consensus throughout the industry seems to be that C names are > > >evil. > > > > I've never heard this. CNAME records have a very specific use, when used > > that way they work great. CNAME records are for roles, not hosts. If I > > had to use A records for all of my DNS records, it would take hours of > > management per week. Once I have A records in place, I use CNAMEs, this > > makes changes very easy. > > > > >I have never been bitten by just using A names. > > > > True, to a point. Get hundreds of A records, and you'll get bit by not > > having enough time in the day to keep everything straight. > > I'm not sure I understand how adding an A record is any more time > consuming than adding a C record. How are they harder to keep strait? I > may be doing unnecessary work. Must not have to renumber things very often is my guess... If there are multiple 'CNAME's pointing to an 'A', then you only have *one* address to renumber and percolate through the planetary DNSs. I host various functions for several domains and 'CNAME's have been my friend. I try not to use 'MX's point to 'CNAME's, however, as that *has* caused problems. I am *amazed* at the number of MTAs that try 'A's even though 'MX's exist. 'CNAME's are not inherently evil in themselves, but some are misused - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 29 7:35:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2615337B423; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veager.siteplus.net (1Cust36.tnt9.chattanooga.tn.da.uu.net [63.39.120.36]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA17391; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:35:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:35:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: James Wyatt Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, John Turner , Andy Wolf , Jan Knepper Subject: RE: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, James Wyatt wrote: > Must not have to renumber things very often is my guess... If there are > multiple 'CNAME's pointing to an 'A', then you only have *one* address to > renumber and percolate through the planetary DNSs. I host various > functions for several domains and 'CNAME's have been my friend. I try not > to use 'MX's point to 'CNAME's, however, as that *has* caused problems. I > am *amazed* at the number of MTAs that try 'A's even though 'MX's exist. > > 'CNAME's are not inherently evil in themselves, but some are misused - Jy@ Point well taken. It came into focus when you said "planetary DNSs". I have also noticed mail following the A record trail. *Problems* may be too conservative a word :/ Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 29 9:44: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [158.36.41.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC68E37B42C for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:43:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31879 invoked by uid 1001); 29 Sep 2000 16:43:53 +0000 (GMT) To: jim@siteplus.net Cc: jan@smartsoft.cc, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:14:23 -0400 (EDT)" References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.34.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 18:43:53 +0200 Message-ID: <31877.970245833@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Reverse lookups are like Highlanders. "There can be only one." No. You can certainly have a reverse lookup returning multiple names. Ie. the following is perfectly legal: $origin 3.2.1.in-addr.arpa. 4 PTR name1.example.com. 4 PTR name2.example.com. 4 PTR name3.example.com. However, this does *not* necessarily mean that such a configuration is good idea... Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 29 12:44:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B920737B650; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (1485 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:38:05 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.111 2000-Feb-17 #1 built 2000-Jun-25) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:38:04 -0500 (CDT) From: James Wyatt To: sthaug@nethelp.no Cc: jim@siteplus.net, jan@smartsoft.cc, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. In-Reply-To: <31877.970245833@verdi.nethelp.no> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wow, reverse lookups only match some of the time?!?! I may be off-base again, but I thought a lot of things wanted reverse host entries that matched exactly for security verification. I read your last comment, but want to know what folks think would really happen. - Jy@ On Fri, 29 Sep 2000 sthaug@nethelp.no wrote: > > Reverse lookups are like Highlanders. "There can be only one." > > No. You can certainly have a reverse lookup returning multiple names. > Ie. the following is perfectly legal: > > $origin 3.2.1.in-addr.arpa. > 4 PTR name1.example.com. > 4 PTR name2.example.com. > 4 PTR name3.example.com. > > However, this does *not* necessarily mean that such a configuration > is good idea... > > Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 29 12:52:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [158.36.41.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B999E37B658 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 35783 invoked by uid 1001); 29 Sep 2000 19:52:15 +0000 (GMT) To: jwyatt@rwsystems.net Cc: jim@siteplus.net, jan@smartsoft.cc, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:38:04 -0500 (CDT)" References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.34.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 21:52:15 +0200 Message-ID: <35781.970257135@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Wow, reverse lookups only match some of the time?!?! I may be off-base > again, but I thought a lot of things wanted reverse host entries that > matched exactly for security verification. I wouldn't exactly call that security - but you're right, this is one of the reasons why having a reverse lookup returning multiple names is not necessarily a good idea. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 29 12:57:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from diskfarm.firehouse.net (rdu25-12-043.nc.rr.com [24.25.12.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6B737B483; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:57:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from abc@localhost) by diskfarm.firehouse.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA26618; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:58:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from abc) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:58:28 -0400 From: Alan Clegg To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. Message-ID: <20000929155828.D21988@diskfarm.firehouse.net> Mail-Followup-To: Alan Clegg , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <31877.970245833@verdi.nethelp.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: ; from jwyatt@rwsystems.net on Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 02:38:04PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Unless the network is lying to me again, James Wyatt said: > Wow, reverse lookups only match some of the time?!?! I may be off-base > again, but I thought a lot of things wanted reverse host entries that > matched exactly for security verification. I read your last comment, but > want to know what folks think would really happen. - Jy@ It used to be that lots of things depended on this, but, with the advent of the clueless internet, people have had to turn off this test. I remember when ftp.uu.net required you to have matching forward and inverse DNS. Long gone are those days. Yes, _some_ things still require you to have working DNS, but the inability for providers to get simple things working _right_ has brought the network to a state of extreme apathy. When the response by the ISP in the wrong is "well, you are one of very few people that my clients can't talk to, so you must be broken", and that is the line that they are feeding their clients, what are you to do? AlanC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 29 17: 4:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA4637B502; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (2096 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 18:47:14 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.111 2000-Feb-17 #1 built 2000-Jun-25) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 18:47:13 -0500 (CDT) From: James Wyatt To: Alan Clegg Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. In-Reply-To: <20000929155828.D21988@diskfarm.firehouse.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Alan Clegg wrote: > Unless the network is lying to me again, James Wyatt said: > > Wow, reverse lookups only match some of the time?!?! I may be off-base > > again, but I thought a lot of things wanted reverse host entries that > > matched exactly for security verification. I read your last comment, but > > want to know what folks think would really happen. - Jy@ > > It used to be that lots of things depended on this, but, with the advent > of the clueless internet, people have had to turn off this test. I remember > when ftp.uu.net required you to have matching forward and inverse DNS. > > Long gone are those days. > > Yes, _some_ things still require you to have working DNS, but the inability > for providers to get simple things working _right_ has brought the network > to a state of extreme apathy. Most servers and protocols don't seem to have those annoying DNS lookup timeouts any more (Why is telnet hanging ... oh. nuts!), but I know a *lot* of SMTP gateways are more careful to avoid Spam relaying. (Ours are a lot more careful than they were. Grrrr.) > When the response by the ISP in the wrong is "well, you are one of very few > people that my clients can't talk to, so you must be broken", and that is > the line that they are feeding their clients, what are you to do? "The bland leading the blind", eh? (^_^) Take care - Jy@ btw: Have we generated enough mail on this subject yet? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 29 17:30:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466FF37B502; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:30:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veager.siteplus.net (user-38lc8rs.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.35.124]) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA21737; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 20:30:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: sthaug@nethelp.no Cc: jan@smartsoft.cc, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. In-Reply-To: <31877.970245833@verdi.nethelp.no> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 29 Sep 2000 sthaug@nethelp.no wrote: > > Reverse lookups are like Highlanders. "There can be only one." > > No. You can certainly have a reverse lookup returning multiple names. > Ie. the following is perfectly legal: > > $origin 3.2.1.in-addr.arpa. > 4 PTR name1.example.com. > 4 PTR name2.example.com. > 4 PTR name3.example.com. > > However, this does *not* necessarily mean that such a configuration > is good idea... > > Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no I am certainly aware that the entries can legally be made, however I have played with some and not found it to be very useful. In fact I don't know of any software that can make good use of it. This doesn't mean there isn't any. I just don't know of any. If you have done dnswalk and digs on various virtual domains around the net, I am sure that you have found DNS to be poorly configured on many occasions. I am sometimes surprised that the Internet works as well as it does. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 29 17:35:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB1537B503; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veager.siteplus.net (user-38lc8rs.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.35.124]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01256; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:35:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 20:35:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: James Wyatt Cc: Alan Clegg , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, James Wyatt wrote: > btw: Have we generated enough mail on this subject yet? Yes, I think so. I said early on that this could turn in to a HOLY war :/ Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 29 22:56:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDAB137B66D; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:56:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA01431; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 00:56:20 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-76.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.76) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma001423; Sat Sep 30 00:56:10 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000930004406.00b85c50@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 00:52:03 -0500 To: Alan Clegg , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. In-Reply-To: <20000929155828.D21988@diskfarm.firehouse.net> References: <31877.970245833@verdi.nethelp.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 03:58 PM 9/29/00 -0400, Alan Clegg wrote: >Unless the network is lying to me again, James Wyatt said: > > > Wow, reverse lookups only match some of the time?!?! I may be off-base > > again, but I thought a lot of things wanted reverse host entries that > > matched exactly for security verification. I read your last comment, but > > want to know what folks think would really happen. - Jy@ > >It used to be that lots of things depended on this, but, with the advent >of the clueless internet, people have had to turn off this test. I remember >when ftp.uu.net required you to have matching forward and inverse DNS. And some refuse to give up the war. I might put in temporary allows, but see no reason to completely cave in. >Long gone are those days. >Yes, _some_ things still require you to have working DNS, but the inability >for providers to get simple things working _right_ has brought the network >to a state of extreme apathy. Amen! >When the response by the ISP in the wrong is "well, you are one of very few >people that my clients can't talk to, so you must be broken", and that is >the line that they are feeding their clients, what are you to do? Educate them. If possible that is. Clients should help when they bug their provider. I've found that to work rather well when a technical discussion end either in apathy or idiocy. Skip "Holy War" and let's call a crusade! 8-) Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Sep 30 3: 3:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from osiris.ipform.ru (osiris.ipform.ru [212.158.165.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A94337B502; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 03:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wp2 (wp2 [192.168.0.12]) by osiris.ipform.ru (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id e8U9rtR54829; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 13:54:38 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from matrix@ipform.ru) Message-ID: <00dc01c02ac4$81bedde0$0c00a8c0@ipform.ru> From: "Artem Koutchine" To: "Jim Weeks" Cc: "Andy Wolf" , "James Wyatt" , "Jan Knepper" , , References: Subject: Re: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 13:23:11 +0400 Organization: IP Form MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: "Jim Weeks" > > On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Artem Koutchine wrote: > > > From: "Jim Weeks" > > > > > > On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Andy Wolf wrote: > > > > > > > We use two A records now and therefor accept redundancy. The reverse > > lookup > > > > of course can only point to one of the labels. > > > > > > The general consensus throughout the industry seems to be that C names are > > > evil. > > > > > > I have never been bitten by just using A names. > > > > > > > I have. Revers lookup might fail and some secure smtp server and other > > daemons > > do not allow access if reverse lookup failes. For example: > > What type of smtp setup would fail because the reverse lookup name did not > match that of the virtual domain? > > Do you have an example of a daemon that would choke? > That actually depends on the setup and can be achived in almost any network active daemon. I have had problems with SENDMAIL!!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message