From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Oct 22 12:25:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from neodymium.btinternet.com (neodymium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85CB937B4C5 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 12:25:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [62.7.99.62] (helo=harryhome) by neodymium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.03 #83) id 13nQkB-0001wq-00 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 20:25:19 +0100 From: "InvictaNet Customer Support" To: "Freebsd-ISP" Subject: Shooping system Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 20:25:18 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Can anybody suggest a shopping cart system that will handle downloadbles as well/instead of physical sales? I am after something that can provide an expireable link for the download. Martyn Routley ----------------------------------------------------- InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed http://www.invictanet.co.uk mailto:info@invictanet.co.uk phone: 0870 7402252 fax: +44 (0)1233 334001 ------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Oct 22 13:13:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from 4ward.net (4ward.net [192.41.27.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D4137B4D7 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 13:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cc368756b (cc368756-b.indnpls1.in.home.com [24.19.2.109]) by 4ward.net (8.8.5) id OAA25545; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 14:13:52 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: 4ward.net: Host cc368756-b.indnpls1.in.home.com [24.19.2.109] claimed to be cc368756b From: "Andy Angrick" To: Subject: Map IP to users Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 15:03:21 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There are some webhosting companies out there that have figure out how to take a freebsd box and map specific ip addresses to users. Say a box has 2 ip addresses 10.1.1.1 and 10.1.1.2... user A is assigned 10.1.1.1 and user B is assigned 10.1.1.2. When user A starts up a server daemon, it only listens on 10.1.1.1, when user B starts up a server it only listens on 10.1.1.2. Does anyone know how they do this? I not talking about using inetd or software that can be configured to listen on specific ip addresses...that's a relatively easy task. Thanks for any input -Andy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Oct 22 13:56:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from matrix.buckhorn.net (matrix.buckhorn.net [63.151.7.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329A137B4CF for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 13:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buckhorn.net (nebula.buckhorn.net [63.151.7.242]) by matrix.buckhorn.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA87484 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 15:23:57 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bob@buckhorn.net) Message-ID: <39F34E42.61538092@buckhorn.net> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 15:29:54 -0500 From: Bob Martin Organization: InterNet Unlimited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Map IP to users References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andy Angrick wrote: > > There are some webhosting companies out there that have figure out how to > take a freebsd box and map specific ip addresses to users. Say a box has 2 > ip addresses 10.1.1.1 and 10.1.1.2... user A is assigned 10.1.1.1 and user B > is assigned 10.1.1.2. When user A starts up a server daemon, it only listens > on 10.1.1.1, when user B starts up a server it only listens on 10.1.1.2. > Does anyone know how they do this? I not talking about using inetd or > software that can be configured to listen on specific ip addresses...that's > a relatively easy task. > > Thanks for any input > -Andy Sounds like they are using jail. See man jail for details. (Note jail is only available in versions 4 newer.) Bob Martin -- As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality. -- Albert Einstein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Oct 22 15: 3:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tfpmail.com (mach90.digitcom.net [209.73.80.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC21D37B4C5 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 15:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 15:13:09 -0700 Message-Id: <200010221513.AA6029794@tfpmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Jonathan Slivko" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: Subject: Web-Pager script? X-Mailer: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I have an alphanumeric pager which has no internet email address on it. However, I can send alphanumeric messages to it via a web interface. Can someone please point me to an easily adapatble script that I can use to send pager messages to myself? I would really be appreciative to find one. Thanks. -- Jonathan M. Slivko -- ---- Jonathan M. Slivko Systems Administrator, CoreSync Corparation Technical Support, Simple Hosting Solutions Voicemail/Pager: (888) 365-0000 x83633 ---- -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Oct 22 17:29:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hitline.ch (unknown [195.129.74.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714D037B4CF for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 17:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [195.129.74.2] (HELO [10.10.10.150]) by hitline.ch (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3b9) with ESMTP id 2561949 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:27:00 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: micheal%com4u.ch@mail.com4u.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20001012152151.I37870@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20001010171808.04bab6f0@mail.lightning.net> <20001012152151.I37870@jade.chc-chimes.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:23:03 +0200 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Michael O Shea Subject: mod_gzip Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, Anybody running this on Apache ? http://www.RemoteCommunications.com/apache/mod_gzip/ Looks quite cool. -- Micheal O Shea ----------------------------------------------------- com-o-tronic ag Micheal O Shea, Systems Engineer Gewerbepark CH-5506 M=E4genwil E-Mail micheal@com4u.ch Voice: +41 62 887 3734 =46ax: +41 62 896 1133 Internet: http://www.com4u.ch http://www.ehitline.ch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Oct 22 18:15: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hitline.ch (unknown [195.129.74.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E53C837B479 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 18:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [62.2.145.17] (HELO [10.10.10.150]) by hitline.ch (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3b9) with ESMTP id 2574614 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 20:18:40 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: moshea%tronic-group.com@mail.tronic-group.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <022d01c039f9$855d5460$112821c4@sai.co.za> References: <022d01c039f9$855d5460$112821c4@sai.co.za> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 20:14:48 +0200 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Michael O Shea Subject: Re: Moving mail to another server for 700 accounts Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Download CommuniGate Pro mailserver. It has 3 tools for the job. MovePOPMail , Move IMAP mail and MoveAccounts where accounts is a file. Will do it in a few mins. -- Micheal O Shea ----------------------------------------------------- com-o-tronic ag Micheal O Shea, Systems Engineer Gewerbepark CH-5506 M=E4genwil E-Mail micheal@com4u.ch Voice: +41 62 887 3734 =46ax: +41 62 896 1133 Internet: http://www.com4u.ch http://www.ehitline.ch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Oct 22 19:42:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bilver.wjv.com (dhcp-1-47.n01.orldfl01.us.ra.verio.net [157.238.210.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E65E37B479 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA08205 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 22:38:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bill) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 22:37:36 -0400 From: Bill Vermillion To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Best alternative to asp Message-ID: <20001022223736.A8194@wjv.com> Reply-To: bv@bilver.wjv.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was just asked to bring up a web-site which has pages developed in ASP. Before this I successfully was able to avoid many of the MS incantations. I see there are ASP to PHP conversions and I'm going to have to help the site through this. Their alternative is cgi. Recommendations? [This is a site that needs to come up now, but later sites for this group - a coop - will have their own server they maintain in our racks - so I can avoid that problem]. Thanks for any pointers. Bill -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Oct 22 19:48:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from prydn.tacni.net (207-55-167-46.dhc.net [207.55.167.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A31737B479 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 89634 invoked by uid 1001); 23 Oct 2000 02:48:30 -0000 Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 21:48:30 -0500 From: Erich Zigler To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best alternative to asp Message-ID: <20001022214830.B89570@superhero.org> Mail-Followup-To: Erich Zigler , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <20001022223736.A8194@wjv.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001022223736.A8194@wjv.com>; from bill@bilver.wjv.com on Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 10:37:36PM -0400 X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy. X-Shane: Hi Shane! Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 10:37:36PM -0400, Bill Vermillion wrote: > Recommendations? [This is a site that needs to come up now, but > later sites for this group - a coop - will have their own server > they maintain in our racks - so I can avoid that problem]. I'm having to implement a similar site this week. He does not want to do PHP seeing how he already wrote the entire site in ASP. He no wants to move do a SQL database so I am going to put him on the UNIX servers. My first choice is to implement the mod_asp module in Apache. If you do a search on freshmeat for apache and asp the URL will come up. But I do not currently have it in front of me. -- Erich Zigler Personally I want to come back as a dust bunny and spend my time under a desk. Hang on, that's what I'm doing now.... -- Robert Blake To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Oct 22 20:32:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.home.hentschel.net (d83b0468.dsl.flashcom.net [216.59.4.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C6737B479 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 20:32:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hentschel.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by falcon.home.hentschel.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9N3d3G01330; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 20:39:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thomas@hentschel.net) Message-Id: <200010230339.e9N3d3G01330@falcon.home.hentschel.net> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 20:39:03 -0700 (PDT) From: thomas@hentschel.net Subject: Re: Best alternative to asp To: bv@wjv.com Cc: Bill Vermillion , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20001022223736.A8194@wjv.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 22 Oct, Bill Vermillion wrote: > I was just asked to bring up a web-site which has pages developed > in ASP. Before this I successfully was able to avoid many of the > MS incantations. I see there are ASP to PHP conversions and I'm > going to have to help the site through this. Their alternative > is cgi. > > Recommendations? [This is a site that needs to come up now, but > later sites for this group - a coop - will have their own server > they maintain in our racks - so I can avoid that problem]. > > Thanks for any pointers. > > Bill check out zope (www.zope.org), it's even in the ports (www/zope). Lots of already developed "Products" (extensions) -Th To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Oct 22 23:22:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.futuredesigns.net (unknown [216.91.66.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0BDD737B4C5 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 23:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 93948 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2000 13:55:26 -0000 Received: from delta.futuredesigns.net (HELO SUN.fdhosting.com) (@216.91.66.252) by 216.91.66.2 with SMTP; 16 Oct 2000 13:55:26 -0000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20001016095500.0adbb6e8@mail.futuredesigns.net> X-Sender: sturdee@mail.futuredesigns.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 09:55:43 -0400 To: muditha@seychelles.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Subject: Re: Rackmount Servers In-Reply-To: <39EAC92A.A3F91F0D@seychelles.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org www.calpc.com for some of the best rackmount cases available.. At 01:23 PM 10/16/2000 +0400, Muditha Gunatilake wrote: >Hello, > >We are a small ISP running FreeBSD. I am interested in purchasing rack >mount servers to replace the seprate individual servers we have at >present. > >*) The server have to be very reliable and solid hardware. >*) Price is not the main issue >*) Been located in a small Island far away from anywhere..we do not >have easy access to suppliers for replacements, spares etc....hence >reliability. > > Would you recommend going for compaq or dell solution? > >Any advice and recommendations on suppliers and products on this issue >would be highly appreciated. > >Thank you. >B.Rgds >-- > -- > --------------------- > Muditha Gunatilake > Atlas Seychelles Ltd > > Phone:+248 304060 > Fax :+248 324565 > email: muditha@seychelles.net > mbh3gpa@afs.mcc.ac.uk > muditha@technologist.com > :-) > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 23 0:14:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aquarius.natey.za.net (unknown [196.15.138.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E011937B4CF; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 00:14:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from natey (helo=localhost) by aquarius.natey.za.net with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13etxE-0001LQ-00; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:47:32 +0200 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:47:32 +0200 (SAST) From: Natey on IRC To: Christopher Rued Cc: FreeBSD ISP , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: DNS: having domain1.com and domain1.net point to the same IP. In-Reply-To: <14804.12144.461757.516919@chris.xsb.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes I have received a lot of the same message.... most likely Jan just mass sent the mail? --jm -- Natey on IRC #include On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Christopher Rued wrote: > Has everyone else seen this message about 10 times, too? > Jan Knepper writes: > > Hi, > > > > I just wondered if any DNS specialists out here could give me a > > hand to a pointer as what to do DNS-wise when I want domain1.com > > and domain1.net to point to the same IP. I have noticed that > > freebsd.org, freebsd.com and freebsd.net al seem to give the > > same site. > > > > I know I can make a dirty change in my DNS and have domain1.net > > point to the same IP, but what about reverse DNS? > > > > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > > > Don't worry, be Kneppie! > > Jan > > > > -- > > Jan Knepper > > Smartsoft, LLC > > 88 Petersburg Road > > Petersburg, NJ 08270 > > U.S.A. > > > > http://www.smartsoft.cc/ > > http://www.mp3.com/pianoprincess > > > > Phone : 609-628-4260 > > FAX : 609-628-1267 > > FAX : 303-845-6415 http://www.fax4free.com/ > > > > Phone : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) > > FAX : 020-873-3837 http://www.xoip.nl/ (Dutch) > > > > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > > -- Charles Forsythe > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 23 3:46: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.psknet.com (orion.psknet.com [207.198.61.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 99D9137B4C5 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 03:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 12912 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2000 10:45:51 -0000 Received: from abyss.dashit.net (HELO abyss) (209.100.22.250) by orion.psknet.com with SMTP; 23 Oct 2000 10:45:51 -0000 From: "Troy Settle" To: , Subject: RE: Web-Pager script? Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 06:46:33 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200010221513.AA6029794@tfpmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jonathan, Check out http://home.psknet.com/troy/pager.php3.txt It should be fairly trivial to port over to perl if needed. Ask your paging company if they have an SNPP server set up. If not, you'll need to do one yourself by installing /usr/ports/comms/qpage. G'luck, -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks 540.994.4254 ** -----Original Message----- ** From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG ** [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jonathan Slivko ** Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 6:13 PM ** To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org ** Subject: Web-Pager script? ** ** ** Hello, I have an alphanumeric pager which has no internet ** email address on it. However, I can send alphanumeric ** messages to it via a web interface. Can someone please point ** me to an easily adapatble script that I can use to send ** pager messages to myself? I would really be appreciative to ** find one. Thanks. ** ** -- Jonathan M. Slivko ** ** -- ** ---- ** Jonathan M. Slivko ** Systems Administrator, CoreSync Corparation ** Technical Support, Simple Hosting Solutions ** Voicemail/Pager: (888) 365-0000 x83633 ** ---- ** -- ** ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ** with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 23 6: 0: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (unknown [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D148437B479 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 05:59:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.10.1/8.10.1/Kp) with ESMTP id e9NAhk672000 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:43:46 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <39F41662.61249DF9@tdx.co.uk> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:43:46 +0100 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: The Digital eXchange X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: IP source-routing with ipfw fwd - Weird problem? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All, I'm looking for any help with this one... I have: --- fxp1 fxp0 ether0 serial0, 10.0.0.1 [ FreeBSD ] 192.168.0.2 ----- 192.168.0.1 [ Cisco ] 172.16.0.1 10.0.1.1 serial1, 10.0.2.1 172.16.1.1 serial2, 172.16.2.1 ( I've swapped everything for Private Net IP's ) --- OK, on the FreeBSD box, a simple: route add default 192.168.0.1 Does the trick... However, I want to use ipfw fwd to change the exact route the traffic goes over, depending on the IP address that it came from, on our network... So, I do the following... route add 172.16.1.1 192.168.0.1 ping 172.16.1.1 64 bytes from 172.16.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=248 time=1.706 ms OK, so now FreeBSD knows how to get to the 'other' serial interface on the Cisco, i.e. 172.16.1.1, so I add my IPFW rule... ipfw add 10 fwd 172.16.1.1 ip from 10.0.1.0/24 to any out fxp0 Again, this seems to work fine - as traffic from the 10.0.1.0/24 network, now leaves via the Cisco's 172.16.1.1 interface (serial1). The problem I seem to have, is that if I do: route get 192.168.0.1 I can see the 'expire' time slowly ticking down... When it reaches zero, the routing breaks ('Destination Host unreachable'). I then have to delete the route to 172.16.1.1, re-create it, ping it - and pronto, everything works again... Checking in the ARP table, shows there is an entry for 192.168.0.1, but I can't delete it, or anything (I thought the ARP might be expiring, so I wanted to create it as a 'permanent' entry)... Any thoughts, info, tips, or anything would be gratefuly received... -Karl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 23 11:36:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f39.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF9A37B479 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:36:42 -0700 Received: from 212.11.3.16 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 18:36:42 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.11.3.16] From: "Julien Clauzel" To: moshea@tronic-group.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Moving mail to another server for 700 accounts Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:36:42 CEST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2000 18:36:42.0276 (UTC) FILETIME=[302B3640:01C03D20] Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thank's to all, for theses hints&Answsers, Julien >From: Michael O Shea >To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: Moving mail to another server for 700 accounts >Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 20:14:48 +0200 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [216.136.204.125] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBBBCDC1F0067D82197CDD888CC7D62710; Sun Oct 22 18:15:13 2000 >Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.18])by >mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTPid 1D4216E2629; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 >18:15:06 -0700 (PDT) >Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 538)id 1F08C37B4C5; Sun, >22 Oct 2000 18:15:05 -0700 (PDT) >Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])by hub.freebsd.org >(Postfix) with SMTPid ED3A22E80CA; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 18:15:04 -0700 (PDT) >Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 22 Oct 2000 18:15:04 >-0700 >Received: from hitline.ch (unknown [195.129.74.66])by hub.freebsd.org >(Postfix) with ESMTP id E53C837B479for ; Sun, 22 >Oct 2000 18:15:02 -0700 (PDT) >Received: from [62.2.145.17] (HELO [10.10.10.150]) by hitline.ch >(CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3b9) with ESMTP id 2574614 for >freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 20:18:40 +0200 >From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 22 18:19:32 2000 >Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org >X-Sender: moshea%tronic-group.com@mail.tronic-group.com >Message-Id: >In-Reply-To: <022d01c039f9$855d5460$112821c4@sai.co.za> >References: <022d01c039f9$855d5460$112821c4@sai.co.za> >Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG >X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Precedence: bulk > >Download CommuniGate Pro mailserver. >It has 3 tools for the job. >MovePOPMail , Move IMAP mail and MoveAccounts where accounts is a file. >Will do it in a few mins. >-- > >Micheal O Shea > >----------------------------------------------------- >com-o-tronic ag >Micheal O Shea, Systems Engineer >Gewerbepark >CH-5506 Mägenwil > >E-Mail micheal@com4u.ch > >Voice: +41 62 887 3734 >Fax: +41 62 896 1133 > >Internet: http://www.com4u.ch http://www.ehitline.ch > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 23 12:14:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mplspop3.mpls.uswest.net (mplspop3.mpls.uswest.net [204.147.80.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F37DF37B479 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 58531 invoked by alias); 23 Oct 2000 19:14:31 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG@fixme Received: (qmail 58512 invoked by uid 0); 23 Oct 2000 19:14:30 -0000 Received: from wdskppp234.mpls.uswest.net (HELO ?10.0.0.4?) (63.226.148.234) by mplspop3.mpls.uswest.net with SMTP; 23 Oct 2000 19:14:30 -0000 Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:11:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Nitebirdz X-Sender: nitebirdz@localhost.localdomain To: bv@wjv.com Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Best alternative to asp In-Reply-To: <20001022223736.A8194@wjv.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 22 Oct 2000, Bill Vermillion wrote: > I was just asked to bring up a web-site which has pages developed > in ASP. Before this I successfully was able to avoid many of the > MS incantations. I see there are ASP to PHP conversions and I'm > going to have to help the site through this. Their alternative > is cgi. > > Recommendations? [This is a site that needs to come up now, but > later sites for this group - a coop - will have their own server > they maintain in our racks - so I can avoid that problem]. > > Thanks for any pointers. > I ignore if ChiliSoft also runs on FreeBSD but you may want to check into this. It appeats to be a port of ASP to UNIX platforms: http://www.chilisoft.com/ ------------------------------- A master was explaining the nature of the Tao to one of his novices, "The Tao is embodied in all software -- regardless of how insignificant," said the master. -- "Is the Tao in a hand-held calculator?" asked the novice. -- "It is," came the reply. -- "Is the Tao in a video game?" continued the novice. -- "It is even in a video game," said the master. -- "And is the Tao in the DOS for a personal computer?" The master coughed and shifted his position slightly. "The lesson is over for today," he said. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 23 13:52: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A9037B4C5 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 13:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veager.siteplus.net (user-38lc8v4.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.35.228]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07302; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 13:51:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:50:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Nitebirdz Cc: bv@wjv.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Best alternative to asp In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Have you looked at the apache module /usr/ports/www/p5-Apache-ASP ? I haven't tried it yet, but it looks promising. -- Jim Weeks On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Nitebirdz wrote: > On Sun, 22 Oct 2000, Bill Vermillion wrote: > > > I was just asked to bring up a web-site which has pages developed > > in ASP. Before this I successfully was able to avoid many of the > > MS incantations. I see there are ASP to PHP conversions and I'm > > going to have to help the site through this. Their alternative > > is cgi. > > > > Recommendations? [This is a site that needs to come up now, but > > later sites for this group - a coop - will have their own server > > they maintain in our racks - so I can avoid that problem]. > > > > Thanks for any pointers. > > > > I ignore if ChiliSoft also runs on FreeBSD but you may want to check into > this. It appeats to be a port of ASP to UNIX platforms: > > http://www.chilisoft.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > A master was explaining the nature of the Tao to one of his novices, "The > Tao is embodied in all software -- regardless of how insignificant," said > the master. > -- "Is the Tao in a hand-held calculator?" asked the novice. > -- "It is," came the reply. > -- "Is the Tao in a video game?" continued the novice. > -- "It is even in a video game," said the master. > -- "And is the Tao in the DOS for a personal computer?" > The master coughed and shifted his position slightly. "The lesson is over > for today," he said. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 23 14:29:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB5237B479 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22628; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:32:30 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:32:29 -0600 (MDT) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: Jim Weeks Cc: Nitebirdz , bv@wjv.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Best alternative to asp In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What most people miss is that ASP != ASP. I use the apache::asp module, and it works great. HOWEVER, it is what I call Perl/ASP, meaning the underlying language is perl. Chilisoft's solution is a unix implementation of what I call (visual?)basic/ASP. This is what most people consider asp. On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Jim Weeks wrote: > Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:50:54 -0400 (EDT) > From: Jim Weeks > To: Nitebirdz > Cc: bv@wjv.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Best alternative to asp > > Have you looked at the apache module /usr/ports/www/p5-Apache-ASP ? I > haven't tried it yet, but it looks promising. > > -- > Jim Weeks > > > On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Nitebirdz wrote: > > > On Sun, 22 Oct 2000, Bill Vermillion wrote: > > > > > I was just asked to bring up a web-site which has pages developed > > > in ASP. Before this I successfully was able to avoid many of the > > > MS incantations. I see there are ASP to PHP conversions and I'm > > > going to have to help the site through this. Their alternative > > > is cgi. > > > > > > Recommendations? [This is a site that needs to come up now, but > > > later sites for this group - a coop - will have their own server > > > they maintain in our racks - so I can avoid that problem]. > > > > > > Thanks for any pointers. > > > > > > > I ignore if ChiliSoft also runs on FreeBSD but you may want to check into > > this. It appeats to be a port of ASP to UNIX platforms: > > > > http://www.chilisoft.com/ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > A master was explaining the nature of the Tao to one of his novices, "The > > Tao is embodied in all software -- regardless of how insignificant," said > > the master. > > -- "Is the Tao in a hand-held calculator?" asked the novice. > > -- "It is," came the reply. > > -- "Is the Tao in a video game?" continued the novice. > > -- "It is even in a video game," said the master. > > -- "And is the Tao in the DOS for a personal computer?" > > The master coughed and shifted his position slightly. "The lesson is over > > for today," he said. > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 23 15:22:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D49B37B479 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:22:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veager.siteplus.net (user-38lc8v4.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.35.228]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA22949; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:22:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 18:22:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Cc: forrestc@imach.com Subject: Re: Best alternative to asp Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Forrest W. Christian Wrote: >What most people miss is that ASP != ASP. >I use the apache::asp module, and it works great. HOWEVER, it is what I >call Perl/ASP, meaning the underlying language is perl. >Chilisoft's solution is a unix implementation of what I >call (visual?)basic/ASP. This is what most people consider asp. I understand the difference in what drives these two different approaches. What I don't understand is what differences it makes in the application code. I am afraid that my reluctance to use M$ products is to blame for my ignorance on the subject. -- Jim Weeks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 23 15:46:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD55A37B479 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:46:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA22986; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:49:27 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:49:27 -0600 (MDT) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: Jim Weeks Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Best alternative to asp In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Jim Weeks wrote: > >Chilisoft's solution is a unix implementation of what I > >call (visual?)basic/ASP. This is what most people consider asp. > > I understand the difference in what drives these two different > approaches. What I don't understand is what differences it makes in the > application code. I am afraid that my reluctance to use M$ products is to > blame for my ignorance on the subject. (The following code is not tested and I realize it is also not as small as it could be) And I'm not a vbasic programmer... Apache::ASP Show all font sizes from 1 through 5: <% for ($size=0;$size<5;$size++) { %> This is a sample of size <%=$size%>
<% } %> "Traditional ASP": <% for size=0 to 5 %> This is a sample of size <%=count%>
<% next %> Note the "code" in the first example is perl -- the code in the second example is basic. They are not interchangable. Thus, you cannot just load Perl::ASP and expect to use a development tool like Macromedia UltraDev and have it work - as ultradev (in asp mode) spits out VBasic stuff. - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 23 15:47:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtpout.kingston-internet.net (smtpout.kingston-internet.co.uk [212.50.161.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D33037B479 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup50.fawlty.kingston-internet.net ([212.50.169.50] helo=laptop) by smtpout.kingston-internet.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #8) id 13nqN9-0006DD-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 23:47:15 +0100 From: "**1st Vamp**" To: Subject: RE: Best alternative to asp Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 23:43:52 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org And in my opinion the best alternative to ASP is PHP, as frankly ASP is badly designed. - Vamp -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Forrest W. Christian Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 9:32 PM To: Jim Weeks Cc: Nitebirdz; bv@wjv.com; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Best alternative to asp What most people miss is that ASP != ASP. I use the apache::asp module, and it works great. HOWEVER, it is what I call Perl/ASP, meaning the underlying language is perl. Chilisoft's solution is a unix implementation of what I call (visual?)basic/ASP. This is what most people consider asp. On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Jim Weeks wrote: > Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:50:54 -0400 (EDT) > From: Jim Weeks > To: Nitebirdz > Cc: bv@wjv.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Best alternative to asp > > Have you looked at the apache module /usr/ports/www/p5-Apache-ASP ? I > haven't tried it yet, but it looks promising. > > -- > Jim Weeks > > > On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Nitebirdz wrote: > > > On Sun, 22 Oct 2000, Bill Vermillion wrote: > > > > > I was just asked to bring up a web-site which has pages developed > > > in ASP. Before this I successfully was able to avoid many of the > > > MS incantations. I see there are ASP to PHP conversions and I'm > > > going to have to help the site through this. Their alternative > > > is cgi. > > > > > > Recommendations? [This is a site that needs to come up now, but > > > later sites for this group - a coop - will have their own server > > > they maintain in our racks - so I can avoid that problem]. > > > > > > Thanks for any pointers. > > > > > > > I ignore if ChiliSoft also runs on FreeBSD but you may want to check into > > this. It appeats to be a port of ASP to UNIX platforms: > > > > http://www.chilisoft.com/ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > A master was explaining the nature of the Tao to one of his novices, "The > > Tao is embodied in all software -- regardless of how insignificant," said > > the master. > > -- "Is the Tao in a hand-held calculator?" asked the novice. > > -- "It is," came the reply. > > -- "Is the Tao in a video game?" continued the novice. > > -- "It is even in a video game," said the master. > > -- "And is the Tao in the DOS for a personal computer?" > > The master coughed and shifted his position slightly. "The lesson is over > > for today," he said. > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 23 16:33: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from prydn.tacni.net (207-55-167-46.dhc.net [207.55.167.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DEE6F37B479 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:32:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 40076 invoked by uid 1001); 23 Oct 2000 23:28:29 -0000 Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 18:28:29 -0500 From: Erich Zigler To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Best alternative to asp Message-ID: <20001023182829.A40043@superhero.org> Mail-Followup-To: Erich Zigler , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from forrestc@imach.com on Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 03:49:27PM -0600 X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy. X-Shane: Hi Shane! Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 03:49:27PM -0600, Forrest W. Christian wrote: > They are not interchangable. Thus, you cannot just load Perl::ASP and > expect to use a development tool like Macromedia UltraDev and have it work > - as ultradev (in asp mode) spits out VBasic stuff. So what solutions are there for us FreeBSD ISP's to get Traditional ASP code running well with our servers? -- Erich Zigler If you don't put your pants back on and go back to work, I'll touch you in some inappropriate ways with a frying pan. -- http://www.redmeat.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 23 16:34:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B084337B4C5 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:34:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veager.siteplus.net (user-38lc8v4.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.35.228]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08605; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:34:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 19:34:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: "Forrest W. Christian" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Best alternative to asp In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Forrest W. Christian wrote: > (The following code is not tested and I realize it is also not as small as > it could be) And I'm not a vbasic programmer... > > Apache::ASP Show all font sizes from 1 through 5: > > > > <% for ($size=0;$size<5;$size++) { %> > This is a sample of size <%=$size%> >
> <% } %> > > > > "Traditional ASP": > > > > <% for size=0 to 5 %> > This is a sample of size <%=count%> >
> <% next %> > > > > Note the "code" in the first example is perl -- the code in the second > example is basic. > > They are not interchangable. Thus, you cannot just load Perl::ASP and > expect to use a development tool like Macromedia UltraDev and have it work > - as ultradev (in asp mode) spits out VBasic stuff. I see your point. Then Perl::ASP is certainly *not* a unix solution to *true* VB asp. At this point I have to ask, why the effort? If a client would not be able to actually move his existing pages from M$ to an apache::ASP server then I think PHP is a much better alternative. -- Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 23 17:16:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from colossus.invictanet.co.uk (colossus.invictanet.co.uk [62.232.18.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C405937B479 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harryhome (modem467.netkonect.net [194.164.14.213]) by colossus.invictanet.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA14998 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 01:16:07 +0100 (BST) From: "InvictaNet Customer Support" To: "Freebsd-ISP" Subject: RE: Best alternative to asp Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 01:16:06 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <20001023182829.A40043@superhero.org> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Would you put Diesel fuel in a Petrol engined Car? Install a W2K server It might hurt, but ASP would work. I run one NT4 server (soon to be upgraded). Because comparatively few people host on NT (see http://www.netcraft.com/survey/) and even fewer can make it work, it is possible to charge a premium rate. I think the real solution is in persuading companies like Macromedia to produce php enabled software rather than asking xxnix developers to produce a crippled asp. Martyn ----------------------------------------------------- InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed http://www.invictanet.co.uk mailto:info@invictanet.co.uk phone: 0870 7402252 fax: +44 (0)1233 334001 ------------------------------------------------------ -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Erich Zigler Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 12:28 AM To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Best alternative to asp On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 03:49:27PM -0600, Forrest W. Christian wrote: > They are not interchangable. Thus, you cannot just load Perl::ASP and > expect to use a development tool like Macromedia UltraDev and have it work > - as ultradev (in asp mode) spits out VBasic stuff. So what solutions are there for us FreeBSD ISP's to get Traditional ASP code running well with our servers? -- Erich Zigler If you don't put your pants back on and go back to work, I'll touch you in some inappropriate ways with a frying pan. -- http://www.redmeat.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 23 17:35:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from prydn.tacni.net (207-55-167-46.dhc.net [207.55.167.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CEB9137B479 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 40264 invoked by uid 1001); 24 Oct 2000 00:31:27 -0000 Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 19:31:27 -0500 From: Erich Zigler To: Freebsd-ISP Subject: Re: Best alternative to asp Message-ID: <20001023193127.A40234@superhero.org> Mail-Followup-To: Erich Zigler , Freebsd-ISP References: <20001023182829.A40043@superhero.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from support@invictanet.co.uk on Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 01:16:06AM +0100 X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy. X-Shane: Hi Shane! Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 01:16:06AM +0100, InvictaNet Customer Support wrote: > Install a W2K server > It might hurt, but ASP would work. > I run one NT4 server (soon to be upgraded). Because comparatively few people > host on NT (see http://www.netcraft.com/survey/) and even fewer can make it > work, it is possible to charge a premium rate. I currently also run an NT4 server for hosting. But I would rather move all the domains running ASP to a UNIX server. Now for those wanting to pull information out of an Access database. You can only do so much. -- Erich Zigler Laughter is the closest distance between two people. -- Victor Borge To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 23 17:43:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.theinternet.com.au (zeus.theinternet.com.au [203.34.176.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A8837B479 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:43:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from akm@localhost) by mail.theinternet.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA79283; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:42:05 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from akm) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:42:05 +1000 From: Andrew Kenneth Milton To: Erich Zigler Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Best alternative to asp Message-ID: <20001024104205.G92974@zeus.theinternet.com.au> References: <20001023182829.A40043@superhero.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <20001023182829.A40043@superhero.org>; from Erich Zigler on Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 06:28:29PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org +-------[ Erich Zigler ]---------------------- | On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 03:49:27PM -0600, Forrest W. Christian wrote: | | > They are not interchangable. Thus, you cannot just load Perl::ASP and | > expect to use a development tool like Macromedia UltraDev and have it work | > - as ultradev (in asp mode) spits out VBasic stuff. | | So what solutions are there for us FreeBSD ISP's to get Traditional ASP code | running well with our servers? Sorry I weighed into this one a little late... Instant ASP, it's a commercial solution. It's a Java Servlet solution, and it handles VB and JavaScript as the scripting languages. They have a development copy you can download and evaluate. They also have connectivity products to allow remote COM connections (RJAX), as well as a VB to Java convertor. http://www.halcyonsoft.com/ http://www.halcyonsoft.com/products/iasp.asp -- Totally Holistic Enterprises Internet| P:+61 7 3870 0066 | Andrew Milton The Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd | F:+61 7 3870 4477 | ACN: 082 081 472 ABN: 83 082 081 472 | M:+61 416 022 411 | Carpe Daemon PO Box 837 Indooroopilly QLD 4068 |akm@theinternet.com.au| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 23 20:36: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F2B37B479 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA24379; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:39:21 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:39:21 -0600 (MDT) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: Jim Weeks Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Best alternative to asp In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Jim Weeks wrote: > I see your point. Then Perl::ASP is certainly *not* a unix solution to > *true* VB asp. > > At this point I have to ask, why the effort? If a client would not be > able to actually move his existing pages from M$ to an apache::ASP server > then I think PHP is a much better alternative. For my needs it was a good solution because: 1) I am a perl programmer. Or maybe better put, I think perl is cool. 2) I don't have the time to learn php. 3) It was the best solution I could find which was both a) perl and b) compatible with standard web development tools. (Meaning I can design/code in "standard" dreamweaver) I would also submit that it would probably be easier to convert a VB-style ASP application to the Apache::ASP solution as it is more of a "convert basic to perl" problem than convert this to the php way of doing things. This statement assumes you're going to be doing it by hand. On the automatic conversion front, I am aware of both an asp2php and a vbscript to perl converversion tool. I have not used either of these, and I know both are designed more as a one-time conversion assistant tool as opposed to a "develop in vbscript and then run it through this and presto.." type tool. - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 23 20:41:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5AA837B4C5 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA24420; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:44:30 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:44:30 -0600 (MDT) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: Erich Zigler Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Best alternative to asp In-Reply-To: <20001023182829.A40043@superhero.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Erich Zigler wrote: > > They are not interchangable. Thus, you cannot just load Perl::ASP and > > expect to use a development tool like Macromedia UltraDev and have it work > > - as ultradev (in asp mode) spits out VBasic stuff. > > So what solutions are there for us FreeBSD ISP's to get Traditional ASP code > running well with our servers? Windows NT. (As much as I hate to say it this might be the best solution) Other than that, I would probably look first at chili!soft (http://www.chilisoft.com). And there are others out there. Not sure of any URL's... Your mileage may vary. - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 24 2:34: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from coltbe178.colt-telecom.be (colt-telecom.customer.BE.COLT.NET [212.35.96.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D428E37B479 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 02:34:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from coltbeexch01.colt-telecom.be (unverified) by coltbe178.colt-telecom.be (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:37:48 +0200 Received: by coltbeexch01.colt-telecom.be with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <4HSPHW9D>; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:30:53 +0200 Message-ID: From: Livens Wim To: "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: radiusd: users file per realm ? Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:30:52 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I want to setup a radius server where different realm-owners can update user accounts for their realm. (e.g. by ftp-ing a users file) Is this possible with Merit radiusd ? After reading AUTHFILE(5), I think it is. Just want to be sure and maybe there are alternatives. thanks, -- Wim Livens Internet Engineer COLT Telecom Brussels To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 24 2:47:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hitline.ch (unknown [195.129.74.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0766A37B479 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 02:47:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [195.129.74.2] (HELO [10.10.10.150]) by hitline.ch (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3b9) with ESMTP id 2593900 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:50:51 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: moshea%tronic-group.com@mail.com4u.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:44:43 +0200 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Michael O Shea Subject: Re: radiusd: users file per realm ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >I want to setup a radius server where different realm-owners >can update user accounts for their realm. >(e.g. by ftp-ing a users file) > >Is this possible with Merit radiusd ? >After reading AUTHFILE(5), I think it is. >Just want to be sure and maybe there are alternatives. > >thanks, > >-- >Wim Livens >Internet Engineer >COLT Telecom >Brussels > Run Radiator Radius and Auth by SQL then you can do whatever you want, i,e, let users upload a file and reload that into SQL. http://www.open.com.au -- Micheal O Shea ----------------------------------------------------- com-o-tronic ag Micheal O Shea, Systems Engineer Gewerbepark CH-5506 M=E4genwil E-Mail micheal@com4u.ch Voice: +41 62 887 3734 =46ax: +41 62 896 1133 Internet: http://www.com4u.ch http://www.ehitline.ch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 24 4:16:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jake.akitanet.co.uk (jake.akitanet.co.uk [212.1.130.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D933E37B479 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 04:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dsl-212-135-208-194.dsl.easynet.co.uk ([212.135.208.194] helo=foo.akitanet.co.uk) by jake.akitanet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #3) id 13o20j-000EzA-00; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:12:53 +0100 From: Paul Robinson Organization: Akita Ltd. To: "Forrest W. Christian" , Jim Weeks Subject: Re: Best alternative to asp Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:16:13 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.94] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0010241216130C.00286@foo.akitanet.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Forrest W. Christian wrote: > (The following code is not tested and I realize it is also not as small as > it could be) And I'm not a vbasic programmer... You must remember that ASP on IIS permits two different languages - VBscript and Jscript. What you call "traditional" ASP is an example of VBscript, but whenever I coded in ASP I used Jscript which is what you refer to as "Perl" but in actual fact has far, far, far more in common with javascript that perl. The language used can be specified at the top of the page. Personally though, I agree with other posters in that PHP is a more suitable language. Combined with Zeus it's a great deal faster, easier to code in, isn't as brain-dead and is more functional, in addition to being available for free for a large number of platforms. ASP is for people who buy the M$ line every time. We aren't members of that set. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 24 4:33:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from apollo2.waverider.net.uk (apollo2.waverider.net.uk [212.105.191.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F88937B479 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 04:33:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bugs (bugs.office.waverider.net.uk [212.105.191.50]) by apollo2.waverider.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA30144; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:26:20 +0100 From: "Andy Cowan" To: "Paul Robinson" , "Forrest W. Christian" , "Jim Weeks" Cc: Subject: RE: Best alternative to asp Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:32:43 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <0010241216130C.00286@foo.akitanet.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > You must remember that ASP on IIS permits two different languages > - VBscript > and Jscript. What you call "traditional" ASP is an example of > VBscript, but > whenever I coded in ASP I used Jscript which is what you refer to > as "Perl" > but in actual fact has far, far, far more in common with > javascript that perl. > Um, wrong. ASP on IIS permits any number of languages as long as you have a scripting engine to support it. What Forrest calls "tradiational" ASP is VBScript which is by far the most widely used language supported by ASP. What Forrest refers to as Perl *is* PerlScript (not JScript) which has everything in common with Perl, and nothing to do with JScript or JavaScript. > The language used can be specified at the top of the page. As in <%@Language PerlScript%> > > Personally though, I agree with other posters in that PHP is a > more suitable > language. Combined with Zeus it's a great deal faster, easier to code in, > isn't as brain-dead and is more functional, in addition to being > available > for free for a large number of platforms. > > ASP is for people who buy the M$ line every time. We aren't > members of that > set. > But if your *customers* are (remember this is freebsd-isp), you might need to think a little bit out of your box. Or do you plan on converting each and every one of them to your way of thinking? A. -- Andy Cowan Managing Director Wave Rider Internet Ltd http://www.waverider.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 24 8:13:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.apollo.lv (sp-2.apollo.lv [195.13.160.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A94E37B4C5 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:13:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from risc.lv ([10.23.80.46]) by mail.apollo.lv (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28713 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 17:12:56 +0200 Message-ID: <39F5A6F2.8070107@risc.lv> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 17:12:50 +0200 From: Victor Meirans User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20000929 Netscape6/6.0b3 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: WMware on FreeBSD? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Have anyone tried to run WMware (www.wmware.com) on FreeBSD? Does it work? Thanks in advance... -- --------> ViC <-------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 24 8:19:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E99137B479 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id E6B101360E; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:19:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:19:33 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: Victor Meirans Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WMware on FreeBSD? Message-ID: <20001024111933.B80998@peitho.fxp.org> References: <39F5A6F2.8070107@risc.lv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <39F5A6F2.8070107@risc.lv>; from vic@risc.lv on Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 05:12:50PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 05:12:50PM +0200, Victor Meirans wrote: > Hello, > > Have anyone tried to run WMware (www.wmware.com) on FreeBSD? Does it work? > See ports/emulators/{vmware,vmware-tools,vmware2} -- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 24 10:32:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kaon.intercom.com (kaon.intercom.com [198.143.3.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B235837B4C5 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:32:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [198.143.3.26] (helo=intercom.com) by kaon.intercom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13o7vu-00018g-00; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:32:18 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:32:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jason J. Horton" X-Sender: mail@kaon.intercom.com To: Victor Meirans Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WMware on FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <39F5A6F2.8070107@risc.lv> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Have anyone tried to run WMware (www.wmware.com) on FreeBSD? Does it work? # cd /usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/ # make install Seems to work well, havent had time to install a host OS on a virtual machine yet.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 24 18:14:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tfpmail.com (mach90.digitcom.net [209.73.80.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3BA37B479; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 18:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 18:24:25 -0700 Message-Id: <200010241824.AA32899556@tfpmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Jonathan Slivko" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: , Subject: Is this a dead list? X-Mailer: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is this a dead list, or am I just missing posts? -- Jonathan M. Slivko. -- ---- Jonathan M. Slivko Systems Administrator, CoreSync Corparation Technical Support, Simple Hosting Solutions Voicemail/Pager: (888) 365-0000 x72601 ---- -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 24 18:46:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E6637B479; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 18:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01256; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 18:49:18 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 18:49:17 -0600 (MDT) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: Jonathan Slivko Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is this a dead list? In-Reply-To: <200010241824.AA32899556@tfpmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org freebsd-isp (at least) is alive and well.... On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Jonathan Slivko wrote: > Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 18:24:25 -0700 > From: Jonathan Slivko > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Is this a dead list? > > Is this a dead list, or am I just missing posts? -- Jonathan M. Slivko. > > > > -- > ---- > Jonathan M. Slivko > Systems Administrator, CoreSync Corparation > Technical Support, Simple Hosting Solutions > Voicemail/Pager: (888) 365-0000 x72601 > ---- > -- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 24 21:48:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4FAA37B479 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 21:48:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13oI6A-000534-00; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 21:23:34 -0700 Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 21:23:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Samplonius To: "Forrest W. Christian" Cc: Erich Zigler , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Best alternative to asp In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Forrest W. Christian wrote: ... > Other than that, I would probably look first at chili!soft > (http://www.chilisoft.com). ... Since Chillisoft ASP runs as an out-of-process model (separate Chillisoft ASP process) and uses a Apache module to communicate to the ASP engine, and source code for that Apache module is available, it seems conceivable that it can be made to work under FreeBSD. Even if it doesn't, Chillisoft is actively seeking interest in a port to FreeBSD. Perhaps their website has changed recently, but they used to have an "Other" selection in the list of platforms they supported which pointed to a form that you could fill out to request a port. But get this, the form page displayed the FreeBSD logo (among several others)! If you are serious about Chillisoft ASP on FreeBSD, go there and sign up. Also, Chillisoft seems to use licensed Microsoft code for their VBScript engine. There should be view compatibility issues. Also, Chillisoft has licensed a bunch of database drivers from another vendor and includes them. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 24 22: 0:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.sai.co.za (ns1.amandla.co.za [196.33.40.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A6137B479 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 22:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fdisk (dave.sai.co.za [196.33.40.17]) by mail.sai.co.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA00436; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 06:59:58 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from davew@sai.co.za) Message-ID: <00c001c03e42$9678b2b0$112821c4@sai.co.za> From: "Dave Wilson" To: Cc: Subject: Cached MX Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 07:15:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Neil, Does sendmail cache MX entries ? I have updated an MX record for mydomain.com on our DNS server, if I do a "dig MX mydomain.com" it shows the new updated MX, but when I use sendmail to try and send to mydomain.com sendmail still seems to be trying to send it back to the old host (MX record). I have tried rebooting the sendmail box but still it seems to be cached. Is there a way to clear the so called "MX cache" ? Thanks. Regards Dave Wilson The S.A. Internet (033) 3456777 0825496159 http://www.sai.co.za "Who is "General Failure", and what is he doing reading my hard disk ?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 24 22:34:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bilver.wjv.com (dhcp-1-176.n01.orldfl01.us.ra.verio.net [157.238.210.176]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5186937B4C5 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 22:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA05144 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 01:34:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bill) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 01:34:49 -0400 From: Bill Vermillion To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cached MX Message-ID: <20001025013449.A4986@wjv.com> Reply-To: bv@bilver.wjv.com References: <00c001c03e42$9678b2b0$112821c4@sai.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <00c001c03e42$9678b2b0$112821c4@sai.co.za>; from davew@sai.co.za on Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 07:15:23AM +0200 Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 07:15:23AM +0200, Dave Wilson thus spoke: > Does sendmail cache MX entries ? Sure does. Run killall -INT named and look at the named.dumb.db file and you'll see MX entries. > I have updated an MX record for mydomain.com on our DNS server, > if I do a "dig MX mydomain.com" it shows the new updated MX, but > when I use sendmail to try and send to mydomain.com sendmail still > seems to be trying to send it back to the old host (MX record). I have always prefered 'nslint' over DIG. It's in the ports. Are you primary for your domain. What does whois show? Just a thought? -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 25 5:43: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF7B37B479; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 05:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veager.siteplus.net (1Cust143.tnt9.chattanooga.tn.da.uu.net [63.39.120.143]) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA14458; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 05:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:42:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Jonathan Slivko Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is this a dead list? In-Reply-To: <200010241824.AA32899556@tfpmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Jonathan Slivko wrote: > Is this a dead list, or am I just missing posts? -- Jonathan M. Slivko. Strange you should ask this. I have noticed RE: posts lately without ever seeing the original post. I thought it might be something on my end but have been unable to find a problem. My mail server has been up continually since the last make world. I don't seem to be loosing other mail. Am I the only one that has noticed this? -- Jim Weeks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 25 8:48:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from euclid.cs.niu.edu (euclid.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C99337B479 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (rickert@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by euclid.cs.niu.edu (8.12.0.PreAlpha2/8.12.0.PreAlpha2) with ESMTP id e9PFmCK13078; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 10:48:12 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.2 06/08/2000 To: "Dave Wilson" Cc: sendmail-questions@sendmail.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: sendmail-questions@sendmail.org Subject: Re: Cached MX References: <00c001c03e42$9678b2b0$112821c4@sai.co.za> In-Reply-To: Message from "Dave Wilson" of "Wed, 25 Oct 2000 07:15:23 +0200." <00c001c03e42$9678b2b0$112821c4@sai.co.za> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 10:48:12 -0500 Message-ID: <13075.972488892@euclid.cs.niu.edu> From: Neil W Rickert Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Dave Wilson" wrote: >Does sendmail cache MX entries ? At most, for the life of a single process during a queue run. >I have updated an MX record for mydomain.com on our DNS server, if I do a >"dig MX mydomain.com" it shows the new updated MX, but when I use sendmail >to try and send to mydomain.com sendmail still seems to be trying to send it >back to the old host (MX record). If that is due to MX caching, then the caching is being done by your DNS nameserver. Check '/etc/resolv.conf', then check each of the nameservers listed dig @ip-of-nameserver mydomain.com mx Also make sure that you are not using a mailertable or other special configuration to bypass the MX record. -NWR To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 25 11:55: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aspenworks.com (aspenworks.com [192.94.236.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D555B37B479 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 11:55:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aspenworks.com (hh1127215.direcpc.com [206.71.127.215]) by aspenworks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01764 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 12:54:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from alex@aspenworks.com) Message-ID: <39F72C7A.7888C06B@aspenworks.com> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 12:54:50 -0600 From: Alex Reply-To: alex@aspenworks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: free Subject: Netfinity PC330 / ServRAID Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone running Netfinity boxes with FreeBSD? Thanks, -Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 25 12: 0:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aspenworks.com (aspenworks.com [192.94.236.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D80C37B4D7 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 12:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aspenworks.com (hh1127215.direcpc.com [206.71.127.215]) by aspenworks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01816 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 13:00:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from alex@aspenworks.com) Message-ID: <39F72DBA.6642952F@aspenworks.com> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 13:00:10 -0600 From: Alex Reply-To: alex@aspenworks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: free Subject: Sendmail 8.11.1 problem? lockmailbox failed.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Happens on all the mailboxes we tested. Just upgraded our test machine to 8.11.1. No other changes, built the /usr/ports version, make deinstall and reinstall.. results: Oct 25 10:57:00 aspenworks mail.local: lockmailbox /var/mail/alex failed; error code 75 Oct 25 10:57:00 aspenworks sendmail[198]: e9P87Ph50020: to=, delay=08:49:34, xdelay=00:00:30, mailer=local, pri=1560084, dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 25 12:31: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.isppro.net (unknown [209.223.152.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB3037B4CF for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 12:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jmejia@localhost) by mail.isppro.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA74266; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 12:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 12:29:44 -0700 (PDT) From: JImmy Mejia To: Alex Cc: free Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.11.1 problem? lockmailbox failed.. In-Reply-To: <39F72DBA.6642952F@aspenworks.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, Alex wrote: | |Happens on all the mailboxes we tested. | |Just upgraded our test machine to 8.11.1. No other changes, built the |/usr/ports version, make deinstall and reinstall.. results: | |Oct 25 10:57:00 aspenworks mail.local: lockmailbox /var/mail/alex |failed; error code 75 |Oct 25 10:57:00 aspenworks sendmail[198]: e9P87Ph50020: |to=, delay=08:49:34, xdelay=00:00:30, |mailer=local, pri=1560084, dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred | | Please check out if you have installed /usr/bin/deliver .... JImmy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 25 17:18: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.knight-trosoft.com (mail.knight-trosoft.com [209.180.70.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD9937B4C5; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 17:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Windoze.vwebpage.com (dh.vwebpage.com [209.180.70.5]) (authenticated) by mail.knight-trosoft.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9Q0GpT14493; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 19:16:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20001025191653.021c25d8@mail.vwebpage.com> X-Sender: johnp@mail.vwebpage.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 19:20:33 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-net@freebsd.org From: John Prince Subject: Multipath natd Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello.. Is it possible (I have been trying).... I have noticed other requests, however there does not seem to be any answers.. I have a firewall setup, IPFW and Natd, with 2 external interfaces, and a single internal. Each external interface is connected to a provider. Setup is as follows.. External Internal. bbb.bbb.bbb.bbb --------------- |--------------- ccc.ccc.ccc.ccc aaa.aaa.aaa.aaa --------------- The internal network consists of 2 nets, 10.0.1.0 and 10.0.2.0 What I want to do is route any traffic from the 10.0.1.0 network to the (bbb) external interface, and traffic from the 10.0.2.0 to the the (aaa) interface.. Ipfw and Natd appear to function, as long as I specify a default route.. I would like to do this all on a single machine, if possible.. Any help would be greatly appreciated.. Thanks, --john John Prince John Prince To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 25 19:42: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.sheltonbbs.com (mail.sheltonbbs.com [206.196.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1416E37B479 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 19:42:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21024 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2000 02:56:53 -0000 Received: from systemadmin.sheltonbbs.com (63.102.143.76) by mail.sheltonbbs.com with SMTP; 26 Oct 2000 02:56:53 -0000 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 21:41:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Butch Evans X-Sender: root@systemadmin.sheltonbbs.com To: Freebsd-ISP Subject: Sendmail .cf file Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am unfamiliar with the cryptic sendmail.cf file. How do I disable the rule that creates the following result? ruleset=check_mail, arg1=<#@[]>, relay=mail.sheltonbbs.com [206.196.109.2], reject=501 <#@[]>... Sender domain must exist I found the "check_mail" in my sendmail.cf file, but it appears that there are several checks in there. I don't want to disable all of them. Just this one that is rejecting so much mail (several per day). This is a default FreeBSD 4.0 installation using sendmail 8.9.3. Any help would be appreciated. -- Butch Evans Shelton Internet Network Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 25 19:58:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rapidnet.com (rapidnet.com [205.164.216.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B26037B4CF; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 19:58:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by rapidnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA82202; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 20:58:00 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 20:58:00 -0600 (MDT) From: Nick Rogness To: John Prince Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multipath natd In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20001025191653.021c25d8@mail.vwebpage.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, John Prince wrote: > Hello.. > Is it possible (I have been trying).... > I have noticed other requests, however there does not seem to be any answers.. > > I have a firewall setup, IPFW and Natd, with 2 external interfaces, and a > single internal. > Each external interface is connected to a provider. > Setup is as follows.. > External Internal. > bbb.bbb.bbb.bbb --------------- > |--------------- ccc.ccc.ccc.ccc > aaa.aaa.aaa.aaa --------------- > The internal network consists of 2 nets, 10.0.1.0 and 10.0.2.0 > What I want to do is route any traffic from the 10.0.1.0 network to the > (bbb) external > interface, and traffic from the 10.0.2.0 to the the (aaa) interface.. > Ipfw and Natd appear to function, as long as I specify a default route.. > I would like to do this all on a single machine, if possible.. > Any help would be greatly appreciated.. It's possible. Run 2 differnet natd's. Setup ipfw like so: #Don;t Divert local traffic ipfw add 50 allow ip from 10.0.1.0/24 to 10.0.2.0/24 ipfw add 51 allow ip from 10.0.2.0/24 to 10.0.1.0/24 #Dvert traffic from 1.0/24 out and in interface B ipfw add 100 divert natd ip from 10.0.1.0/24 to any ipfw add 101 divert natd ip from any to any in via $INTERFACE_B #Divert traffic from 2.0/24 network in and out int a ipfw add 200 divert natd2 ip from 10.0.2.0/24 to any ipfw add 201 divert natd2 ip from any to any in via $INTERFACE_A #Add routing for these natd'd addresses ipfw add 1000 fwd $INTERFACE_B_NEXT_HOP ip from \ $INTERFACE_B_ADDRESS to any ipfw add 2000 fwd $INTERFACE_A_NEXT_HOP ip from \ $INTERFACE_A_ADDRESS to any #Leave on for testing until it works ipfw add 3000 allow ip from any to any Then after you do that setup the 2 different natd's to listen on different ports (default 8668) and another entry int /etc/services: natd2 8669/divert # Network Address Translation Then run the nat's seperately: root# natd -p 8668 -a $INTERFACE_B_ADDRESS root# natd -p 8669 -a $INTERFACE_A_ADDRESS Nick Rogness - Drive defensively. Buy a tank. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 25 21:29:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F7AB37B479 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 21:29:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA80682; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:29:36 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) Received: from disc-4-161.aipo.gov.au(10.0.4.161) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma080663; Thu, 26 Oct 00 15:29:20 +1100 Received: from localhost (anwsmh@localhost) by stan.aipo.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21870; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:29:19 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) X-Authentication-Warning: stan.aipo.gov.au: anwsmh owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:29:17 +1100 (EST) From: Stanley Hopcroft X-Sender: anwsmh@stan.aipo.gov.au To: FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: "Damien.Lederer" , Carl Makin Subject: Off n(TOP)ic question: ntop-1.1 chews heaps of CPU on 4.x-R Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, I am writing to say that the marvellous ntop-1.1 packet accounting tool (all the good RMON things like - top talkers - top protocols - traffic matrix in software with a Web or curses interface) uses a lot of CPU. In fact it seems to use *all* of the CPU it can get. This is no big deal but my Solaris admin colleague pointed out that the same application on a Sparc E4 uses barely any CPU even when exposed to 500 LDAP requests/second. Here is ntop running on FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE (P5/166/80 MB RAM) that is only seeing *boradcast* and data from or to itself. It is a box whose CPU idle time is usually > 80%. last pid: 98015; load averages: 1.27, 1.31, 0.93 up 19+03:59:44 15:18:35 42 processes: 2 running, 40 sleeping CPU states: 50.6% user, 0.0% nice, 49.0% system, 0.4% interrupt, 0.0% idle Mem: 39M Active, 44M Inact, 23M Wired, 6712K Cache, 22M Buf, 11M Free Swap: 256M Total, 256M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 96811 root 56 0 10928K 9784K RUN 6:08 95.36% 95.36% ntop 98015 anwsmh 29 0 1872K 1088K RUN 0:00 4.13% 1.22% top 351 netsaint 10 0 1388K 960K nanslp 443:07 0.00% 0.00% netsaint 84 root 2 -12 1240K 692K select 3:38 0.00% 0.00% ntpd 32380 root 2 0 2852K 2308K select 1:49 0.00% 0.00% httpd 82 bind 2 0 3136K 2568K select 1:37 0.00% 0.00% named 126 root 2 0 1400K 892K select 1:12 0.00% 0.00% sendmail and on 4.1.1-RELEASE (PIII/733/128MB RAM) that is getting all the traffic for a small segment (<= 6 servers). last pid: 17389; load averages: 1.03, 1.08, 1.05 up 7+02:28:32 15:19:20 35 processes: 2 running, 33 sleeping CPU states: 42.4% user, 0.0% nice, 57.6% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% idle Mem: 91M Active, 7720K Inact, 20M Wired, 5324K Cache, 22M Buf, 492K Free Swap: 256M Total, 15M Used, 241M Free, 5% Inuse PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 17303 root 63 0 19344K 12760K RUN 57:29 91.94% 91.94% ntop I am not sure this a problem because ntop is such a superb and useful application, but it seems strange. Both installations are standard out of the box; in particular both run the bpf and libpcap shipped with that version of FreeBSD. One of the reasons for asking about this is that "TCPIP Illustrated" claims that the Sun NIT interface is very poor compared to the BSD bpf. Could it be they have radically improved DLPI ? Thank you. Yours sincerely, S Hopcroft Network Specialist IP Australia +61 2 6283 3189 +61 2 6281 1353 FAX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 25 23:17:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from router.atom.ru (atomnet.rmt.ru [194.67.161.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82EE537B4D7 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 23:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from laa@localhost) by router.atom.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA45394; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:16:57 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:16:57 +0400 From: "Alexandr A. Listopad" To: Alex Cc: free Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.11.1 problem? lockmailbox failed.. Message-ID: <20001026101657.B45090@atom.ru> References: <39F72DBA.6642952F@aspenworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <39F72DBA.6642952F@aspenworks.com>; from alex@aspenworks.com on Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 01:00:10PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 01:00:10PM -0600, Alex wrote: > > Happens on all the mailboxes we tested. > > Just upgraded our test machine to 8.11.1. No other changes, built the > /usr/ports version, make deinstall and reinstall.. results: > > Oct 25 10:57:00 aspenworks mail.local: lockmailbox /var/mail/alex > failed; error code 75 > Oct 25 10:57:00 aspenworks sendmail[198]: e9P87Ph50020: > to=, delay=08:49:34, xdelay=00:00:30, > mailer=local, pri=1560084, dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred add MODIFY_MAILER_FLAGS(`LOCAL', `+S')dnl to your .mc file. and read carrefully stable@ mailing list! ;-) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Laa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 25 23:20:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aspenworks.com (aspenworks.com [192.94.236.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A1D37B479 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 23:20:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ibmxeon (hh1127215.direcpc.com [206.71.127.215]) by aspenworks.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id e9Q6KTc17994; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:20:30 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <00bf01c03f14$a31804d0$3701070a@aspenworks.com> From: "alex huppenthal" To: "Alexandr A. Listopad" Cc: "free" References: <39F72DBA.6642952F@aspenworks.com> <20001026101657.B45090@atom.ru> Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.11.1 problem? lockmailbox failed.. Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:18:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes! I merged the change into my freebsd.mc, copied that to the /usr/ports/mail/sendmail/......... cf ./Build freebsd.cf .. moved it into /etc/mail/sendmail.cf deinstalled, reinstalled, it's up and running. check the headers.. Thanks to all who responded. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexandr A. Listopad" To: "Alex" Cc: "free" Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 12:16 AM Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.11.1 problem? lockmailbox failed.. > On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 01:00:10PM -0600, Alex wrote: > > > > Happens on all the mailboxes we tested. > > > > Just upgraded our test machine to 8.11.1. No other changes, built the > > /usr/ports version, make deinstall and reinstall.. results: > > > > Oct 25 10:57:00 aspenworks mail.local: lockmailbox /var/mail/alex > > failed; error code 75 > > Oct 25 10:57:00 aspenworks sendmail[198]: e9P87Ph50020: > > to=, delay=08:49:34, xdelay=00:00:30, > > mailer=local, pri=1560084, dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred > > > add > MODIFY_MAILER_FLAGS(`LOCAL', `+S')dnl > > to your .mc file. and read carrefully stable@ mailing list! ;-) > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > -- > Laa > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 26 3:19:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057C437B4CF; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 03:19:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.com by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 13ok7y-0002Bm-05; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:19:18 +0200 Received: from webmail.t-online.de (320051988339-0001@[194.25.134.112]) by fwd05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 13ok7k-1u9WtMC; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:19:04 +0200 Date: 26 Oct 2000 10:19 GMT From: Sven.Huster@t-online.de Subject: high availability by routing? To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Cc: sven.huster@t-online.de X-Mailer: T-Online WebMail 0.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <13ok7k-1u9WtMC@fwd05.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 320051988339-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi there, at the moment i have following setup: |isp| --- |my router| -- |switch| -- |loadbalancer| -- |web farm| i want to improve availability by adding a second loadbalancer and=20 a second router + a second connection to my network provider to eliminate the single point of failure (i know about the single switch). so the setup then will be: | | -- |router 1| -- | | -- |loadbalancer 1| -- | | |isp| |switch| |web farm| | | -- |router 2| -- | | -- |loadbalancer 2| -- | | but 1. how is routing managed between isp and my routers? 2. what happends if one router fails or one isp connection is broken? 3. how does the loadbalancer recongnizes that one router fails? 4. how do i tell my routers to distribute traffic between the loadbalancers equal? 5. how can i handle the failure of one loadbalancer? maybe i will extend the setup with another connection to a other isp. 6. how will this fit in my environment? thanks a lot regards Sven -- Sven Huster Consultant - *BSD, Linux, Solaris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 26 5:18:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (unknown [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9370237B666 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 05:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jon@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA85465 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 23:23:38 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 23:23:34 +1000 From: Jonathan Michaels To: free Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.11.1 problem? lockmailbox failed.. Message-ID: <20001026232333.A85426@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Reply-To: jon@welearn.com.au Mail-Followup-To: free References: <39F72DBA.6642952F@aspenworks.com> <20001026101657.B45090@atom.ru> <00bf01c03f14$a31804d0$3701070a@aspenworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <00bf01c03f14$a31804d0$3701070a@aspenworks.com>; from alex huppenthal on Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 12:18:57AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 12:18:57AM -0600, alex huppenthal wrote: > Yes! > > I merged the change into my freebsd.mc, copied that to the > /usr/ports/mail/sendmail/......... cf > > ./Build freebsd.cf .. moved it into /etc/mail/sendmail.cf > > deinstalled, reinstalled, it's up and running. check the headers.. > > Thanks to all who responded. in regards to sendmail and freebsd, has anyone still running freebsd v2.2.8-release upgraded thier sendmail ? is it neccasary to also upgrade bind as well ? thier are probably a few security issues that dictate bind be upgraded on its own. has any one run new (from freebsd v3.5 or v4.x) i realise i'll have to get sources and do a compile. any thoughts opinions suggestions would be most graciously apreciated. with regards and thanks jonathan -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 26 5:58:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bilver.wjv.com (dhcp-1-109.n01.orldfl01.us.ra.verio.net [157.238.210.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ABAB37B479 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 05:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA03166 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 08:57:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bill) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 08:57:39 -0400 From: Bill Vermillion To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: high availability by routing? Message-ID: <20001026085739.B3092@wjv.com> Reply-To: bv@bilver.wjv.com References: <13ok7k-1u9WtMC@fwd05.sul.t-online.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <13ok7k-1u9WtMC@fwd05.sul.t-online.com>; from Sven.Huster@t-online.de on Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 10:19:00AM +0000 Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 10:19:00AM +0000, Sven.Huster@t-online.de thus spoke: > hi there, > at the moment i have following setup: > |isp| --- |my router| -- |switch| -- |loadbalancer| -- |web farm| > i want to improve availability by adding a second loadbalancer and > a second router + a second connection to my network provider to > eliminate the single point of failure (i know about the single > switch). > so the setup then will be: > > | | -- |router 1| -- | | -- |loadbalancer 1| -- | | > |isp| |switch| |web farm| > | | -- |router 2| -- | | -- |loadbalancer 2| -- | | You also have the other single point of failure as the ISP, and potentially the cable running to you bringing the data. Typically there will be from dozens to hundreds to thousands in a single cable and that would get you. Are you having an availability problem now. What is the data rate from your ISP to you - eg T1/E1, T3/E3/DS3, ??. > 1. how is routing managed between isp and my routers? > 2. what happends if one router fails or one isp connection is broken? > 3. how does the loadbalancer recongnizes that one router fails? Router failure is fairly rare - depending on routers. I had a 7513 with a funky HSSI port that like to reset itself - took awhile to find it was the problem. I had one 25xx series that would become unstable and reboot itself about every 2 weeks. Running early release software with NAT/PAT for a remote router at a remote location in a student housing complex. The only other failure was a Cicso 7120 about two weeks after install. Pure infant mortalitly - where it got to the point of parity errors reading the boot rom. Not that I managed a lot of things - but out of a dozen outbound T1's I've never had any router problems - except as above - or at customers with cheap routers. > maybe i will extend the setup with another connection to a other isp. > 6. how will this fit in my environment? That will surely help in case the ISP or their uplink goes away. A lot depends on the ISP as to how big they are, how well connected, etc. Bill -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 26 6:18:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.softclub.net (spider.softclub.net [195.68.136.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB16937B479; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 06:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ws08.hq.softclub.net ([192.168.10.8]) by mail.softclub.net with esmtp (SOFTCLUB #3) id 13on1B-000MOO-00 ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:24:29 +0400 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:25:02 +0400 From: "Alexei V. Alexandrov" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.44) Reply-To: "Alexei V. Alexandrov" Organization: ElcomSoft Ltd. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <2615768964.20001026172502@elcomsoft.com> To: Sven.Huster@t-online.de Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: high availability by routing? In-reply-To: <13ok7k-1u9WtMC@fwd05.sul.t-online.com> References: <13ok7k-1u9WtMC@fwd05.sul.t-online.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Sven, Thursday, October 26, 2000, 2:19:00 PM, you wrote: SHtod> hi there, SHtod> at the moment i have following setup: SHtod> |isp| --- |my router| -- |switch| -- |loadbalancer| -- |web farm| SHtod> i want to improve availability by adding a second loadbalancer and SHtod> a second router + a second connection to my network provider to SHtod> eliminate the single point of failure (i know about the single SHtod> switch). SHtod> so the setup then will be: SHtod> | | -- |router 1| -- | | -- |loadbalancer 1| -- | | SHtod> |isp| |switch| |web farm| SHtod> | | -- |router 2| -- | | -- |loadbalancer 2| -- | | SHtod> but SHtod> 1. how is routing managed between isp and my routers? SHtod> 2. what happends if one router fails or one isp connection is broken? SHtod> 3. how does the loadbalancer recongnizes that one router fails? SHtod> 4. how do i tell my routers to distribute traffic between the SHtod> loadbalancers equal? SHtod> 5. how can i handle the failure of one loadbalancer? I think the best way is to get connected with another ISP. This gives the opportunity if one of them is down there is always another one. There is HOWTO on the net about multihoming (http://noc.comstar.ru/miscdocs/multi.html). Hope this helps. Best regards, Alexei V. Alexandrov [AA4460, AVA32-RIPN, AA1829-RIPE] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *** Alexei V. Alexandrov -- www.elcomsoft.com ---- ava@elcomsoft.com *** *** PGP Fingerprint: 9F23 7153 51D4 FD8F 4E7F D4DF E0FA E400 *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 26 6:58:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rapidnet.com (rapidnet.com [205.164.216.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6107B37B479; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 06:58:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by rapidnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA64373; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 07:58:07 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 07:58:06 -0600 (MDT) From: Nick Rogness To: Sven.Huster@t-online.de Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: high availability by routing? In-Reply-To: <13ok7k-1u9WtMC@fwd05.sul.t-online.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 26 Oct 2000 Sven.Huster@t-online.de wrote: > hi there, > > at the moment i have following setup: > > |isp| --- |my router| -- |switch| -- |loadbalancer| -- |web farm| > > i want to improve availability by adding a second loadbalancer and > a second router + a second connection to my network provider to > eliminate the single point of failure (i know about the single > switch). > > so the setup then will be: > > | | -- |router 1| -- | | -- |loadbalancer 1| -- | | > |isp| |switch| |web farm| > | | -- |router 2| -- | | -- |loadbalancer 2| -- | | > > but > 1. how is routing managed between isp and my routers? Work with them to run some type of routing protocol. It will probably be an IRP (I'm assuming you don't have an AS #) > 2. what happends if one router fails or one isp connection is broken? It should switch over to the other. > 3. how does the loadbalancer recongnizes that one router fails? The load balancer doesn't. That's the routers job. > 4. how do i tell my routers to distribute traffic between the > loadbalancers equal? It depends on your router type. > 5. how can i handle the failure of one loadbalancer? Hmmm. Not sure on this one...you need a network clustering setup. > maybe i will extend the setup with another connection to a other isp. > 6. how will this fit in my environment? > This will provide you with diverse path's but will complicate things unless you run BGP...which is quite involved. However, if you didn't want to load balance across your ISP links you could just use static routing. Nick Rogness - Drive defensively. Buy a tank. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 26 7: 5: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rapidnet.com (rapidnet.com [205.164.216.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C8337B4C5; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 07:05:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by rapidnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA67229; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 08:04:57 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 08:04:57 -0600 (MDT) From: Nick Rogness To: Sven.Huster@t-online.de Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: high availability by routing? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, Nick Rogness wrote: > On 26 Oct 2000 Sven.Huster@t-online.de wrote: > > > hi there, > > > > at the moment i have following setup: > > > > |isp| --- |my router| -- |switch| -- |loadbalancer| -- |web farm| > > > > i want to improve availability by adding a second loadbalancer and > > a second router + a second connection to my network provider to > > eliminate the single point of failure (i know about the single > > switch). > > > > so the setup then will be: > > > > | | -- |router 1| -- | | -- |loadbalancer 1| -- | | > > |isp| |switch| |web farm| > > | | -- |router 2| -- | | -- |loadbalancer 2| -- | | > > > > but > > 1. how is routing managed between isp and my routers? > > Work with them to run some type of routing protocol. It will > probably be an IRP (I'm assuming you don't have an AS #) > > > 2. what happends if one router fails or one isp connection is broken? > > It should switch over to the other. > > > 3. how does the loadbalancer recongnizes that one router fails? > > The load balancer doesn't. That's the routers job. Have 2 default gateways...or run some type of failover on the routers...like HSRP. If it is not a cisco router, then you will needs some type of High Availability software. You could also run routing daemons on your loadbalancer machines? Nick Rogness - Drive defensively. Buy a tank. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 26 8:40:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E9F37B479; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 08:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fwd01.sul.t-online.com by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 13op8d-0006MU-01; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:40:19 +0200 Received: from venus.system7.de (320051988339-0001@[62.224.115.228]) by fwd01.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 13op8S-17lTJQC; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:40:08 +0200 Received: by venus.system7.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6ED3254AF; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:40:07 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:40:07 +0200 From: Sven.Huster@t-online.de (Sven Huster) To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: high availability by routing? Message-ID: <20001026174007.A70522@venus.system7.de> References: <13ok7k-1u9WtMC@fwd05.sul.t-online.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <13ok7k-1u9WtMC@fwd05.sul.t-online.com>; from Sven.Huster@t-online.de on Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 10:19:00AM +0000 X-Sender: 320051988339-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi sorry, but i should go into more detail. all my machines will be run freebsd, also the routers. so if i setup some kind of dynamic routing on _all_ machines, will there be something like high availability or not? thanks sven > hi there, > > at the moment i have following setup: > > |isp| --- |my router| -- |switch| -- |loadbalancer| -- |web farm| > > i want to improve availability by adding a second loadbalancer and > a second router + a second connection to my network provider to > eliminate the single point of failure (i know about the single > switch). > > so the setup then will be: > > | | -- |router 1| -- | | -- |loadbalancer 1| -- | | > |isp| |switch| |web farm| > | | -- |router 2| -- | | -- |loadbalancer 2| -- | | > > but > 1. how is routing managed between isp and my routers? > 2. what happends if one router fails or one isp connection is broken? > 3. how does the loadbalancer recongnizes that one router fails? > 4. how do i tell my routers to distribute traffic between the > loadbalancers equal? > 5. how can i handle the failure of one loadbalancer? > > maybe i will extend the setup with another connection to a other isp. > 6. how will this fit in my environment? > > thanks a lot > regards > Sven > > -- > Sven Huster > Consultant - *BSD, Linux, Solaris > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 26 9:58:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.149.48.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB66137B479 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:58:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20075 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2000 17:04:49 -0000 Received: from jhs.muc.de (193.149.49.84) by slarti.muc.de with SMTP; 26 Oct 2000 17:04:49 -0000 Received: from park.jhs.private (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jhs.muc.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9QFKYL41152; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:22:22 GMT (envelope-from jhs@park.jhs.private) Message-Id: <200010261522.e9QFKYL41152@jhs.muc.de> To: jmslivko@mail.dotcom.fr Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is this a dead list? In-Reply-To: Message from "Jonathan Slivko" of "Tue, 24 Oct 2000 18:24:25 PDT." <200010241824.AA32899556@tfpmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:20:34 +0200 From: "Julian Stacey Jhs@jhs.muc.de" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Jonathan Slivko" wrote: > Is this a dead list, or am I just missing posts? -- Jonathan M. Slivko. in case you are a user of mh + procmail, your ~/.procmailrc filter may be losing mail (mine did), be aware of this change of freebsd path: # 3.4-RELEASE: /usr/local/lib/mh/rcvstore # 4.1.1-RELEASE: /usr/local/libexec/nmh/rcvstore for more info look in /usr/ports/mail/nmh on 4.1.1 I dropped one of the 2 CC lists freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG as it is a breach of etiquette to post to multiple lists, as I understand it. Julian - Julian Stacey http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/ Munich Unix Consultant. Free BSD Unix with 3900 packages & sources. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 26 10:20:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from eviloverlord.org (eviloverlord.org [148.59.100.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB2FB37B479 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eviloverlord.org (mgoward@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eviloverlord.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA61377 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:25:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mgoward@eviloverlord.org) X-Sent-To: Message-Id: <200010261725.NAA61377@eviloverlord.org> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Full BGP with freebsd Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:25:26 -0400 From: Matt Goward Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can anyone tell me what I have to change to hold full bgp with a FreeBSD server. I know it is more then just a config change but cannot find what I need to change. Matt Goward Msen, Inc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 26 10:32:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.peterboro.net (mail.nexicom.net [216.168.96.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3740037B479 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:32:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tech (modem-247.peterboro.net [216.168.96.247]) by mail.peterboro.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id e9QHWHf20690 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:32:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Paul Stewart" To: Subject: Sendmail - Catch All Alias Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:43:33 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there... I am trying to find a SIMPLE method of doing the following: Just installed a brand new FreeBSD 4.1.1 server. Sendmail is working just fine for the one domain and that's the ONLY domain I need to have running on this server... I want to add a catch-all alias so that when email comes in that can't be delivered to an existing POP account it goes to a general mailbox (usename called "mail" in this case). Following general instructions I edited the virtusers table and rebuild it etc. with @domain.com mail However it doesn't appear that the virtusers file is being used. This is a stock install with no changes made to the sendmail.cf file. Any anyone give me a simple to-do list to make this work? I think what's making this difficult for me to figure out is that this task is so easy Actually, is there a way for me to just add an alias in the aliases file that works as a catch-all? Thanks very much, Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 26 10:44:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rapidnet.com (rapidnet.com [205.164.216.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68AFD37B479; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:44:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by rapidnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA89808; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:44:37 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:44:37 -0600 (MDT) From: Nick Rogness To: Sven Huster Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: high availability by routing? In-Reply-To: <20001026174007.A70522@venus.system7.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, Sven Huster wrote: > hi > > sorry, but i should go into more detail. > > all my machines will be run freebsd, also the routers. > > so if i setup some kind of dynamic routing on _all_ machines, > will there be something like high availability or not? It depends on how you set it up with your upstream and how you set it up internally. You can get HA (kinda) with dynamic routing. It won't be full proof but it will help. Nick Rogness - Drive defensively. Buy a tank. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 26 15: 1:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B8137B479 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:01:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chimp.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id e9QM0qv59434; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:00:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Tancsa To: mgoward@eviloverlord.org (Matt Goward) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Full BGP with freebsd Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:00:52 -0400 Message-ID: <1aahvsgbprna0msp5ckcdc0ilg96pub3rg@4ax.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 26 Oct 2000 13:20:55 -0400, in sentex.lists.freebsd.isp you wrote: >Can anyone tell me what I have to change to hold full bgp with a FreeBSD= server. >I know it is more then just a config change but cannot find what I need = to=20 >change. 192MB of RAM is handy. You may also want to look at adjusting the HZ setting. ---Mike Mike Tancsa (mdtancsa@sentex.net) =09 Sentex Communications Corp, =09 Waterloo, Ontario, Canada "Given enough time, 100 monkeys on 100 routers=20 could setup a national IP network." (KDW2) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 26 16:30:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rad3.1stup.com (rad3.1stup.com [209.143.242.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA4B837B4F9 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:30:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veager (ip117.jackson10.ms.pub-ip.psi.net [38.36.61.117]) by rad3.1stup.com (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e9QNTk106312; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:29:47 -0700 Message-ID: <003801c03fa4$a0a49160$753d2426@siteplus.net> From: "Jim Weeks" To: "Paul Stewart" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Sendmail - Catch All Alias Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 19:29:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Did you rebuild the database? Something like #makemap -r hash virtusertable < virtusertable.txt Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stewart" To: Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 1:43 PM Subject: Sendmail - Catch All Alias > Hi there... > > I am trying to find a SIMPLE method of doing the following: > > Just installed a brand new FreeBSD 4.1.1 server. Sendmail is working just > fine for the one domain and that's the ONLY domain I need to have running on > this server... > > I want to add a catch-all alias so that when email comes in that can't be > delivered to an existing POP account it goes to a general mailbox (usename > called "mail" in this case). > > Following general instructions I edited the virtusers table and rebuild it > etc. with > @domain.com mail > > However it doesn't appear that the virtusers file is being used. This is a > stock install with no changes made to the sendmail.cf file. > > Any anyone give me a simple to-do list to make this work? I think what's > making this difficult for me to figure out is that this task is so easy > > Actually, is there a way for me to just add an alias in the aliases file > that works as a catch-all? > > Thanks very much, > > Paul > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ________________________________________________________ 1stUp.com - Free the Web Get your free Internet access at http://www.1stUp.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 26 17:36: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.peterboro.net (mail.nexicom.net [216.168.96.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF0C37B4C5 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tech (d141-233-43.home.cgocable.net [24.141.233.43]) by mail.peterboro.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id e9R0Zjf00034; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 20:35:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "Paul Stewart" To: "Jim Weeks" Cc: Subject: RE: Sendmail - Catch All Alias Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 20:47:03 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: <003801c03fa4$a0a49160$753d2426@siteplus.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for the response and everyone's responses...:) I got it figured out.... was building virtusers instead of virtusertable :) Thanks, Paul Stewart -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jim Weeks Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 7:30 PM To: Paul Stewart Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sendmail - Catch All Alias Did you rebuild the database? Something like #makemap -r hash virtusertable < virtusertable.txt Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stewart" To: Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 1:43 PM Subject: Sendmail - Catch All Alias > Hi there... > > I am trying to find a SIMPLE method of doing the following: > > Just installed a brand new FreeBSD 4.1.1 server. Sendmail is working just > fine for the one domain and that's the ONLY domain I need to have running on > this server... > > I want to add a catch-all alias so that when email comes in that can't be > delivered to an existing POP account it goes to a general mailbox (usename > called "mail" in this case). > > Following general instructions I edited the virtusers table and rebuild it > etc. with > @domain.com mail > > However it doesn't appear that the virtusers file is being used. This is a > stock install with no changes made to the sendmail.cf file. > > Any anyone give me a simple to-do list to make this work? I think what's > making this difficult for me to figure out is that this task is so easy > > Actually, is there a way for me to just add an alias in the aliases file > that works as a catch-all? > > Thanks very much, > > Paul > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ________________________________________________________ 1stUp.com - Free the Web Get your free Internet access at http://www.1stUp.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 26 21: 2:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bilver.wjv.com (dhcp-1-80.n01.orldfl01.us.ra.verio.net [157.238.210.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C87E337B479 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 21:02:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA08544; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 00:02:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bill) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 00:02:04 -0400 From: Bill Vermillion To: Aaron Hill Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Solved! R4.1.1 PPPoE with ADSL (Telstra Bigpond) Message-ID: <20001027000204.A8452@wjv.com> Reply-To: bv@bilver.wjv.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from hillaa@hotmail.com on Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 03:23:31AM +0000 Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 03:23:31AM +0000, Aaron Hill thus spoke: > What it all comes down to is my ISPs equipment is not RFC 2516 > compliant - in the way I read the RFC at least. Their Access > Concentrator would not work correctly with a PPPoE discovery > session unless the the Service-Name tag was positioned as the last > tag in the PPPoE payload. Following is proof of that. .... > So what do I/we do next with this information? Is it worth > changing the FreeBSD source to accomodate for dodgy ISP equipment? > I can't say what type of Access Concentrator it is I'm dealing > with but if this Telco is using it I'd say others will. > Of course anyone's welcome to the changes I've made but based on > the descriptions above I'm sure you could replicate it yourself > easily. I only changed the position of two lines in the file. Well could you put just a bit more detail - showing the lines you changed - or a diff - or just that portion of the module? Bill -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 26 21:39: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f145.law6.hotmail.com [216.32.241.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04AB237B479; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 21:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 21:39:03 -0700 Received: from 203.11.225.5 by lw6fd.law6.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 04:39:03 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.11.225.5] From: "Aaron Hill" To: bv@bilver.wjv.com Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Solved! R4.1.1 PPPoE with ADSL (Telstra Bigpond) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 04:39:03 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2000 04:39:03.0612 (UTC) FILETIME=[D552AFC0:01C03FCF] Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Well could you put just a bit more detail - showing the lines you >changed - or a diff - or just that portion of the module? Sorry, I don't make diffs too often. Here's what I've done... diff -u ng_pppoe.c.R411 ng_pppoe.c --- ng_pppoe.c.R411 Fri Oct 27 15:17:26 2000 +++ ng_pppoe.c Fri Oct 27 15:18:50 2000 @@ -748,8 +748,8 @@ uniqtag.hdr.tag_len = htons((u_int16_t)sizeof(uniqtag.data)); uniqtag.data.pointer = sp; init_tags(sp); - insert_tag(sp, &sp->neg->service.hdr); insert_tag(sp, &uniqtag.hdr); + insert_tag(sp, &sp->neg->service.hdr); make_packet(sp); sendpacket(sp); } @@ -905,12 +905,12 @@ neg->timeout = 0; neg->pkt->pkt_header.ph.code = PADR_CODE; init_tags(sp); - insert_tag(sp, &neg->service.hdr); /* Service */ + insert_tag(sp, utag); /* Host Unique */ if ((tag = get_tag(ph, PTT_AC_COOKIE))) insert_tag(sp, tag); /* return cookie */ if ((tag = get_tag(ph, PTT_AC_NAME))) insert_tag(sp, tag); /* return it */ - insert_tag(sp, utag); /* Host Unique */ + insert_tag(sp, &neg->service.hdr); /* Service */ scan_tags(sp, ph); make_packet(sp); sp->state = PPPOE_SREQ; I hope that helps. Aaron Hill _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Oct 27 4: 1: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C0037B479; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 04:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA30771; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:01:00 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) Received: from wf-136.aipo.gov.au(192.168.1.136) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma030768; Fri, 27 Oct 00 22:00:37 +1100 Received: from localhost (anwsmh@localhost) by stan.aipo.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00378; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:01:11 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) X-Authentication-Warning: stan.aipo.gov.au: anwsmh owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:01:11 +1100 (EST) From: Stanley Hopcroftt X-Sender: anwsmh@stan.aipo.gov.au To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD@ntop.ORG, ntop@ntop.ORG, Carl Makin Subject: ntop 1.3.2 Ok despite incomplete make on FreeBSD 4.1.x Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Ladiees and Gentlemen, I am writing to say that while ntop-1.1 hogs the CPU completely unacceptably on FreeBSD 4.x, ntop-1.3.2 (preview release at ftp://ftp.ntop.org/pub/local/ntop/snapshots/ntop-src-Oct-26-2000.tar.gz.) works fine. Although this fails to make cleanly (same error messages as posted formerly) it does build an executable ntop, and that ntop runs like a lamb (quietly and without fuss in other words). Instead of gutsing more than 95% of the CPU, here is the new version (on the same hardware and OS) last pid: 45474; load averages: 0.07, 0.06, 0.03 up 8+08:59:34 21:50:22 35 processes: 1 running, 34 sleeping CPU states: 1.2% user, 0.0% nice, 0.8% system, 0.4% interrupt, 97.7% idle Mem: 93M Active, 5732K Inact, 19M Wired, 5668K Cache, 22M Buf, 492K Free Swap: 256M Total, 102M Used, 153M Free, 40% Inuse, 4K In PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 45474 anwsmh 28 0 1876K 1008K RUN 0:00 0.74% 0.24% top 295 root 2 0 2084K 184K select 0:05 0.00% 0.00% sshd 45412 root 4 0 13540K 3708K bpf 0:05 0.00% 0.00% lt-ntop 271 root 2 0 912K 152K select 0:03 0.00% 0.00% syslogd 292 root 10 0 956K 144K nanslp 0:03 0.00% 0.00% cron Thank you very much for your help, Yours sincerely, S Hopcroft IP Australia, To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Oct 27 7:42:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hitline.ch (unknown [195.129.74.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07BC437B479 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 07:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [195.129.74.2] (HELO [10.10.10.150]) by hitline.ch (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3b9) with ESMTP id 2621823 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 16:46:49 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: moshea%tronic-group.com@mail.com4u.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 16:42:40 +0200 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Michael O Shea Subject: Re: ntop 1.3.2 Ok despite incomplete make on FreeBSD 4.1.x Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Dear Ladiees and Gentlemen, > >I am writing to say that while ntop-1.1 hogs the CPU completely >unacceptably on FreeBSD 4.x, ntop-1.3.2 (preview release at >ftp://ftp.ntop.org/pub/local/ntop/snapshots/ntop-src-Oct-26-2000.tar.gz.) >works >fine. Hi there S Hopcroft, How did you build this ? I tried and it keeps breaking on the Configure. Did you set any env vars before building ? I can build the one in PORTS no prob but again like you it takes 99 % cpu. -- Micheal O Shea ----------------------------------------------------- com-o-tronic ag Micheal O Shea, Systems Engineer Gewerbepark CH-5506 M=E4genwil E-Mail micheal@com4u.ch Voice: +41 62 887 3734 =46ax: +41 62 896 1133 Internet: http://www.com4u.ch http://www.ehitline.ch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Oct 27 13: 7:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aspenworks.com (aspenworks.com [192.94.236.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D62437B4C5 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 13:07:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aspenworks.com (hh1127215.direcpc.com [206.71.127.215]) by aspenworks.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id e9RK7Fn03423 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 14:07:16 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <39F9E05E.2C64C92D@aspenworks.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 14:06:54 -0600 From: Alex Reply-To: alex@aspenworks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: free Subject: Earthlink's new policy blocks port 25 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Earthlink, as of it's merger with Mindspring, has decided to block port 25 on all their services. No longer can an Earthlink dialup network user access your Sendmail proc at port 25 on FreeBSD. If you have customers who roam using Earthlink, they'll need to change their email server to an Earthlink server or you'll need to run Sendmail on a different port address. I don't see the option in Netscape to specify a port number for their smtp server, however, it is an option in Outlook. Anyone running their smtp server on a port other than 25? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Oct 27 13:46:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B25137B479 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 13:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id e9RKjlF25903; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 16:45:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Message-ID: <39F9E97A.62AD3FFB@thehousleys.net> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 16:45:46 -0400 From: James Housley X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alex@aspenworks.com Cc: free Subject: Re: Earthlink's new policy blocks port 25 References: <39F9E05E.2C64C92D@aspenworks.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alex wrote: > > I don't see the option in Netscape to specify a port number for their > smtp server, however, it is an option in Outlook. Some do, some dont. Have you tried smtp.server.com:26 ?? > > Anyone running their smtp server on a port other than 25? > My mother uses mindspring and sends throught my mail server. Because of the port 25 block I have an ipfw forward rule from port 26 to port 25. And that works fine. Jim -- jeh@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power to Serve jim@TheHousleys.Net http://www.TheHousleys.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me in your ~/.signature to help me spread! <- Save this lifeform ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Oct 27 14:13:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from superman.imag.net (superman.imag.net [207.200.148.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC8F37B66E for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 14:13:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crap.imag.net (techie.imag.net [204.244.221.252]) by superman.imag.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e9RLIHB10161 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 14:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20001027141700.03e44e38@mail.imag.net> X-Sender: van2537@mail.imag.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 14:17:04 -0700 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Luke Cowell Subject: dhcp config questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a freebsd 3.5 box running isc dhcpd 2.x; I'm wondering if someone can answer a question about config. I have 2 relevant ethernet interfaces. One is attached to our office LAN and the other is attached to a 5505, with is attached to our adsl network. Basically, both interfaces need to serve dhcp requests, but respond with static IPs. The problem is when we take a computer from our office home and try to get renew IPs the only way i can get to work is if i use a pool. What I'd like to do is have the dhcpd server give out a different fixed address depending on the interface the request comes in on. Has anyone done this ? config examples ? am I'm making any sense ? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Luke Cowell Motionlink Internet Senior Systems Administrator http://www.imag.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Oct 27 14:22:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aspenworks.com (aspenworks.com [192.94.236.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D11C137B479 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 14:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aspenworks.com (hh1127215.direcpc.com [206.71.127.215]) by aspenworks.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id e9RLMUn03653; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 15:22:31 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <39F9F1FE.9945948E@aspenworks.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 15:22:06 -0600 From: Alex Reply-To: alex@aspenworks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Housley Cc: free Subject: Re: Earthlink's new policy blocks port 25 References: <39F9E05E.2C64C92D@aspenworks.com> <39F9E97A.62AD3FFB@thehousleys.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Great idea.. *s James Housley wrote: > > Alex wrote: > > > > I don't see the option in Netscape to specify a port number for their > > smtp server, however, it is an option in Outlook. > Some do, some dont. Have you tried smtp.server.com:26 ?? > > > > Anyone running their smtp server on a port other than 25? > > > My mother uses mindspring and sends throught my mail server. Because of > the port 25 block I have an ipfw forward rule from port 26 to port 25. > And that works fine. > > Jim > > -- > jeh@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power to Serve > jim@TheHousleys.Net http://www.TheHousleys.net > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me in your ~/.signature > to help me spread! <- Save this lifeform ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Oct 27 14:47:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.apollo.lv (sp-2.apollo.lv [195.13.160.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB1437B479 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 14:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from risc.lv ([10.23.80.46]) by mail.apollo.lv (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA06588 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 23:47:20 +0200 Message-ID: <39F9F7E2.6050306@risc.lv> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 00:47:14 +0300 From: Victor Meirans User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20000929 Netscape6/6.0b3 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp Subject: netware rconsole on freebsd? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Is there any way to manage Novell Netware servers from FreeBSD box if telnet is disabled on Netware for security reasons? I mean is there some tool for FreeBSD like "rconsole" for DOS? I tried to search the web for info, but could only find it for xconsole, which requires "NetWare/IP" package installed on netware server. If none is available, is it possible to run rconsole DOS binary on FreeBSD with some DOS or Windows emulator? Enyone tried? Any clues? Thanx in advance, ---> ViC <--- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Oct 27 15:52:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87CA737B686 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 15:52:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA39444; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 09:52:06 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) Received: from wf-137.aipo.gov.au(192.168.1.137) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma039442; Sat, 28 Oct 00 09:51:40 +1100 Received: from localhost (anwsmh@localhost) by stan.aipo.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00229; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 09:52:11 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) X-Authentication-Warning: stan.aipo.gov.au: anwsmh owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 09:52:10 +1100 (EST) From: Stanley Hopcroftt X-Sender: anwsmh@stan.aipo.gov.au To: Michael O Shea Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, Luca Deri Subject: Re: ntop 1.3.2 Ok despite incomplete make on FreeBSD 4.1.x In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Sir, I am writing to say thank you for your letter and say that my remarks only apply to a preview release of ntop-1.3.2 (at ftp://ftp.ntop.org/pub/local/ntop/snapshots/ntop-src-Oct-26-2000.tar.gz.), and that On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Michael O Shea wrote: > Hi there S Hopcroft, > How did you build this ? > I tried and it keeps breaking on the Configure. Did you set any env > vars before building ? I can build the one in PORTS no prob but again > like you it takes 99 % cpu. > -- > ntop was successfully built after ./configure make # stand back for lots of noise from make # turn blind eye to error messages (1) and then putting the partial make output (ie a complete working ntop executable in the source directory) to wherever you would like it (eg /usr/local/sbin). The ntop included in the ports collection is 1.1. This is not worth using because it guzzles CPU like it is hoooke on it. One other writer (Pete Britzy ?) said that 1.1 would take machines down. Use it at your own risk. Lastly, I haven't been able to build it with multi-thread support so my ignorance is probably the cause of all the problems. (I thought autoconf would pick up the thread support (2)) Thank you, Yours sincerely, S Hopcroft 1 ntop-1.3.2 Make messages on 4.1.1-RELEASE %make make all-recursive Making all in . Making all in plugins Making all in . Making all in pep make: don't know how to make all. Stop *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/anwsmh/build/ntop-1.3.2/plugins. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/anwsmh/build/ntop-1.3.2. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/anwsmh/build/ntop-1.3.2. % 2 Config.log output %grep -i -2 thread config.log configure:2989: checking for sys/sched.h configure:2989: checking for semaphore.h configure:2989: checking for pthread.h configure:3031: checking for sys/socket.h configure:3031: checking for netdb.h -- configure:3965: checking for inet_aton in -lresolv configure:4079: checking for initscr in -lncurses configure:4167: checking for pthread_create in -lpthread configure:4271: checking for pthread_create in -lpthreads configure:4439: checking for readline/readline.h configure:4476: checking for readline in -lreadline % To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Oct 27 16:36:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.sheltonbbs.com (mail.sheltonbbs.com [206.196.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D277A37B479 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 16:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7869 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2000 23:51:40 -0000 Received: from systemadmin.sheltonbbs.com (63.102.143.76) by mail.sheltonbbs.com with SMTP; 27 Oct 2000 23:51:40 -0000 Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 18:37:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Butch Evans X-Sender: root@systemadmin.sheltonbbs.com To: Victor Meirans Cc: freebsd-isp Subject: Re: netware rconsole on freebsd? In-Reply-To: <39F9F7E2.6050306@risc.lv> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Victor Meirans wrote: > > Is there any way to manage Novell Netware servers from FreeBSD box if > telnet is disabled on Netware for security reasons? > > I mean is there some tool for FreeBSD like "rconsole" for DOS? > > I tried to search the web for info, but could only find it for xconsole, > which requires "NetWare/IP" package installed on netware server. > > If none is available, is it possible to run rconsole DOS binary on > FreeBSD with some DOS or Windows emulator? Enyone tried? > I will look around in my bookmarks. I saw one a while back that was a web-based solution to this. As I recall, it looked quite good. It was just very expensive for us, as their license was based on the number of target servers (I manage about 25). I don't think it was terribly high, just not for us. I will forward the URL if I can find it. -- Butch Evans Shelton Internet Network Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Oct 27 22:22:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.sheltonbbs.com (mail.sheltonbbs.com [206.196.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 87F9037B4C5 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:22:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28288 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2000 05:37:36 -0000 Received: from systemadmin.sheltonbbs.com (63.102.143.76) by mail.sheltonbbs.com with SMTP; 28 Oct 2000 05:37:36 -0000 Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 00:22:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Butch Evans X-Sender: root@systemadmin.sheltonbbs.com To: Victor Meirans Cc: freebsd-isp Subject: Re: netware rconsole on freebsd? In-Reply-To: <39F9F7E2.6050306@risc.lv> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Victor Meirans wrote: > Is there any way to manage Novell Netware servers from FreeBSD box if > telnet is disabled on Netware for security reasons? > > I mean is there some tool for FreeBSD like "rconsole" for DOS? > Here is one of the apps that I saw to do this... http://www.cscare.com/WConsole/ Another is called WebConsole and comes from High Tech software. I could not find their URL, however a search of Yahoo for "java rconsole" turned up a number of programs to do what you want. -- Butch Evans Shelton Internet Network Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Oct 28 1: 1:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7AEB37B479 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 01:01:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with UUCP id e9S817e65138; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 10:01:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.0.14]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id e9S7npZ27315; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 09:49:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <012001c040b3$c2744fa0$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Reply-To: "Leif Neland" From: "Leif Neland" To: "Butch Evans" , "Freebsd-ISP" References: Subject: Re: Sendmail .cf file Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 09:48:08 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Butch Evans" To: "Freebsd-ISP" Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 4:41 AM Subject: Sendmail .cf file > I am unfamiliar with the cryptic sendmail.cf file. How do I disable > the rule that creates the following result? > > ruleset=check_mail, arg1=<#@[]>, relay=mail.sheltonbbs.com > [206.196.109.2], reject=501 <#@[]>... Sender domain must exist > Keep it. Why would you want to recieve mail you can not reply to? It is probably spam. If somebody just has a misconfigured mailer/mailreader, _they_ should fix it better sooner than later. You are not helping them by relaxing your rules, they will just be hit when they try to send somewhere else. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Oct 28 9:18:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D4137B4C5 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 09:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17911; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 10:18:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02514; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 10:18:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 10:18:15 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200010281618.KAA02514@nomad.yogotech.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: alex@aspenworks.com Cc: free Subject: Re: Earthlink's new policy blocks port 25 In-Reply-To: <39F9E05E.2C64C92D@aspenworks.com> References: <39F9E05E.2C64C92D@aspenworks.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Earthlink, as of it's merger with Mindspring, has decided to block > port 25 on all their services. No longer can an Earthlink dialup > network user access your Sendmail proc at port 25 on FreeBSD. This is a 'good thing', since it keeps folks from buying an Earthlink account for one month and sending out SPAM. (This is almost certainly the reason it was shutdown.) As someone else pointed out, you can set things up on a separate port number or use some sort of SSH port forwarding. This minimizes the SPAM risk, since the only way to get to your server is via the 'non-standard' port or after the host has been authenticated. (The latter is probably easier to do out of the box, and in fact is trivial to setup, even on M$ boxes...) Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Oct 28 13:51:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.futuredesigns.net (unknown [216.91.66.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 99D6A37B479 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 13:51:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7070 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2000 20:51:05 -0000 Received: from delta.futuredesigns.net (HELO SUN.fdhosting.com) (@216.91.66.252) by 216.91.66.2 with SMTP; 28 Oct 2000 20:51:05 -0000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20001028164421.03021200@mail.futuredesigns.net> X-Sender: sturdee@mail.futuredesigns.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 16:51:50 -0400 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Mike Subject: OT: Program Speed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry for the off topic question, but I'm not quite sure where else to find unbiased opinions on this. We currently have a cgi program, written in C, that is ran about 500,000+ times a day. Each time it is run, it reads from reads and writes to 2-5 flat text files. I am in the process of rewriting this program so to add more features and what not. I am wondering if it would be faster / more efficient if it were to use MySQL instead of flat text files (over 500,000 accesses daily) in the C version of the program, or would PHP or a combination of PHP/MySQL be faster? Any thoughts/ideas, or a reference as to where I could find such information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance! Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Oct 28 14:39:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.unixbox.com (shell.unixbox.com [207.211.45.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F3537B479 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 14:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (fengyue@localhost) by shell.unixbox.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9SLc5968106; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 14:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 14:38:05 -0700 (PDT) From: FengYue X-Sender: fengyue@shell.unixbox.com To: Mike Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OT: Program Speed In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20001028164421.03021200@mail.futuredesigns.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It'd be alot faster if you change your CGI to be an apache module or use fast-CGI (http://www.fastcgi.com). Process creation is expensive. On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Mike wrote: ->Sorry for the off topic question, but I'm not quite sure where else to find ->unbiased opinions on this. We currently have a cgi program, written in C, ->that is ran about 500,000+ times a day. Each time it is run, it reads from ->reads and writes to 2-5 flat text files. -> ->I am in the process of rewriting this program so to add more features and ->what not. I am wondering if it would be faster / more efficient if it were ->to use MySQL instead of flat text files (over 500,000 accesses daily) in ->the C version of the program, or would PHP or a combination of PHP/MySQL be ->faster? -> ->Any thoughts/ideas, or a reference as to where I could find such ->information would be greatly appreciated. -> ->Thanks in advance! -> ->Mike -> -> -> ->To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ->with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -> -------------------------------------------- | Windmoon ~{#@7gTB?M#@~} | | http://www.windmoon.nu/ | | *** Have you hacked a UNIX laterly? *** | -------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Oct 28 18:17:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ren.sasknow.com (ren.sasknow.com [207.195.92.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63F037B479 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 18:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by ren.sasknow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA49606; Sat, 28 Oct 2000 19:21:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 19:21:10 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: Mike Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OT: Program Speed In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20001028164421.03021200@mail.futuredesigns.net> Message-ID: Organization: SaskNow Technologies [www.sasknow.com] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike wrote to freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG: > Sorry for the off topic question, but I'm not quite sure where else to find > unbiased opinions on this. We currently have a cgi program, written in C, > that is ran about 500,000+ times a day. Each time it is run, it reads from > reads and writes to 2-5 flat text files. What does it do? That's quite a lot of accesses for anything... You might do well to make it into an apache module for fast access. If your accesses were absolutely homogenous, your script will be run about 6 times per sec... But, as with most things, it probably runs in spurts. > I am in the process of rewriting this program so to add more features and > what not. I am wondering if it would be faster / more efficient if it were > to use MySQL instead of flat text files (over 500,000 accesses daily) in > the C version of the program, or would PHP or a combination of PHP/MySQL be > faster? Making and breaking SQL connections is VERY expensive in comparison to process creation and most (local) file IO. If you want to go this route, you MUST use something that maintains persistent connections. Depending on the size of the data, SQL is very efficient, and, providing you can optimize your requests, is faster than flat-file implementations. PHP will assist with persistent connections. SQL isn't necessarily faster than everything else... You might be able to write an optimized hash key algorithm tailored to the data, with a speedy file format and memory cache, that will be faster than a very good SQL implementation. SQL is standardized, highly portable, and easy, though. mySQL also allows you to write custom functions, which will gain you most of the advantages of your own implementation. Another thing to consider is: is the result of this script important? I.e., must it be run "live"? Writing a backend daemon to cache the requests and write them out asynchronously every few seconds, or per hundred entries, for example, would probably increase overall efficiency greatly. Even if the user needs to see the results, maybe you can: a) return the result immediately, without querying the files, and still cache the update query. This depends on your application--you may be able to do this. b) return asynchronously... i.e., build in some lag to the responses of a second or so, so that your system can run much more efficiently, at the cost of a slight delay to the user. You could use a pause() or sleep() in the client script, and have the backend daemon send a signal via kill(2) when the data is available. Taking that further, maybe you could use sockets to pass data back and fourth for maximum efficiency. A great deal depends on the purpose of the application. Another thought: How large is the data? Can it be stored in memory? Is persistent storage necessary? If you have a stable server, and the data is small enough to easily fit in RAM, you can usually improve performance by an order of magnitude or so (even _with_ decent caching) by storing everything in memory and flushing once every 30 seconds or so... Or longer, if you can risk losing that much data. Don't fill your main memory needlessly, though, and force other critical applications to swap out... That could surely bring your system to its knees ;-) > Any thoughts/ideas, or a reference as to where I could find such > information would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks in advance! > > Mike Hope this helps, - Ryan -- Ryan Thompson Network Administrator, Accounts Phone: +1 (306) 664-1161 SaskNow Technologies http://www.sasknow.com #106-380 3120 8th St E Saskatoon, SK S7H 0W2 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message