From owner-freebsd-libh Thu Sep 7 12:43: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-libh@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC44637B423 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 12:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e87JevR25714 for libh@freebsd.org; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:40:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:40:57 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: libh@freebsd.org Subject: What do you guys do? Message-ID: <20000907204057.C25586@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-libh@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi chaps, Some of you have probably seen the discussion over on -committers. What the hell are you guys doing, anyway :-) ? I don't want anything elaborate, just something I can put in to http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL and http://www.freebsd.org/projects/ N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-libh" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-libh Thu Sep 7 14:46:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-libh@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2129C37B424; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA19186; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:45:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200009072145.OAA19186@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Re: What do you guys do? In-Reply-To: <20000907204057.C25586@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> from Nik Clayton at "Sep 7, 2000 08:40:57 pm" To: Nik Clayton Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Cc: libh@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-libh@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nik Clayton wrote: > Hi chaps, > > Some of you have probably seen the discussion over on -committers. > > What the hell are you guys doing, anyway :-) ? Hahaha. I actually missed that flamewar on -committers it seems. What a pity. At the moment, I think that work on libh has kind of stalled as people have been drawn off into various projects. The individual most familiar with the code is Alexander Langer (alex). The other people who have worked with the code at least some that I know of so far are Neil Blakey-Milner (nbm), C. Stephen Gunn, and myself (jhb). What is libh? Well, as best as I can tell, libh is a wrapper that allows tcl scripts to run in a sort of sandbox and interface to other libraries. Also, sandboxes can create other sandboxes that are children of themselves. Sandboxes can be restricted, and a child sandbox can never have more privilege than its parent. For example, when a package is installed, it runs in a sandbox. The generic package installer might create a more restricted sandbox to run an installation script that is included with an individual package. Some of the stock libraries that come with libh that can be called from the Tcl scripts include a generic user interface library, which uses Turbo Vision for its console backend, and Qt for its X11 backend. Additional backends can be added if people would prefer that. As far as I know, the new libh also includes a new package system that uses Zip archives and various per-package scripts among other things. It also includes the beginnings of a new sysinstall, and a couple of example scripts. One of the example Tcl scripts is a spiffy partition editor. The current focus is cleaning up the actual libh internal libs and getting them working. They were originally written for early 3.x, and have suffered from some bitrot. There is also very little documentation, although some has been added. > I don't want anything elaborate, just something I can put in to > > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL > > and > > http://www.freebsd.org/projects/ > > N > -- -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-libh" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-libh Fri Sep 8 4:14:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-libh@freebsd.org Received: from wibble.netcraft.com (wibble.netcraft.com [195.188.192.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E09C837B424 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 04:14:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sketchy@localhost) by wibble.netcraft.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e88BDwc27993 for libh@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 12:13:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from sketchy) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 12:13:58 +0100 From: Jonathan Perkin To: libh@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What do you guys do? Message-ID: <20000908121358.E27399@netcraft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-libh@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just to point out that this list doesn't seem to be archived - only the current week is available: http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/archive/2000/ -> ENOLIBH Also a reminder of where the CVS repo is for libh would be helpful, ISTR it being on usw4, but can never remember the full pserver :) I do like the idea of libh, and if I get time I'll start helping out however I can. Cheers. -- Jonathan Perkin Voice: +44 (01225) 404422 ech`echo xiun | tr nu oc | sed 'sx\([sx]\)\([xoi]\)xo un\2\1 is xg'`ol System Administrator - Netcraft. Bath, UK - http://www.netcraft.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-libh" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-libh Fri Sep 8 7:25:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-libh@freebsd.org Received: from neutron.cichlids.com (as3-052.rp-plus.de [149.221.238.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CFA37B423 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64293AB91; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 16:27:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cichlids.cichlids.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B3BF314BE1; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 16:24:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 16:24:33 +0200 To: John Baldwin Cc: freebsd-libh@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What do you guys do? Message-ID: <20000908162433.A44979@cichlids.cichlids.com> References: <20000907204057.C25586@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <200009072145.OAA19186@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200009072145.OAA19186@pike.osd.bsdi.com>; from jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com on Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 02:45:58PM -0700 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. From: alex@big.endian.de (Alexander Langer) Sender: owner-freebsd-libh@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake John Baldwin (jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com): > pity. At the moment, I think that work on libh has kind of stalled as people > have been drawn off into various projects. No :-) I'm working more than one hour on it per day. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean any progress at the moment -- I have problems with this C++ crap :-) (bringing the new widget to the TCL lib, that is). I have to recompile it after every two minutes of work, which then takes 2 additional minutes, and so I loose time. Dumb -- but my new PIII 650 helps here :) Alex -- cat: /home/alex/.sig: No such file or directory To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-libh" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-libh Sat Sep 9 8:33:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-libh@freebsd.org Received: from usw4.freebsd.org (usw4.freebsd.org [209.180.6.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A9937B422 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 08:33:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from alex@localhost) by usw4.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA05497 for libh@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 10:33:29 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from alex) Message-Id: <200009091533.KAA05497@usw4.freebsd.org> From: Alexander Langer Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 10:33:28 -0500 (CDT) To: libh@FreeBSD.org Subject: cvs commit: libh/bin/setup setup.tcl Sender: owner-freebsd-libh@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG alex 2000/09/09 10:33:28 CDT Modified files: bin/setup setup.tcl Log: Remove boxlayout hunks. Revision Changes Path 1.2 +14 -17 libh/bin/setup/setup.tcl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-libh" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-libh Sat Sep 9 8:35:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-libh@freebsd.org Received: from usw4.freebsd.org (usw4.freebsd.org [209.180.6.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1BD37B424 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 08:35:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from alex@localhost) by usw4.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA05529 for libh@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 10:35:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from alex) Message-Id: <200009091535.KAA05529@usw4.freebsd.org> From: Alexander Langer Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 10:35:39 -0500 (CDT) To: libh@FreeBSD.org Subject: cvs commit: libh Makefile.inc Sender: owner-freebsd-libh@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG alex 2000/09/09 10:35:39 CDT Modified files: . Makefile.inc Log: Disable TVISION for a short time, while the ContainerWidget is being developed. Revision Changes Path 1.5 +4 -2 libh/Makefile.inc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-libh" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-libh Sat Sep 9 8:47:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-libh@freebsd.org Received: from usw4.freebsd.org (usw4.freebsd.org [209.180.6.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59CF37B422 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 08:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from alex@localhost) by usw4.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA05572 for libh@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 10:47:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from alex) Message-Id: <200009091547.KAA05572@usw4.freebsd.org> From: Alexander Langer Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 10:47:49 -0500 (CDT) To: libh@FreeBSD.org Subject: cvs commit: libh/lib/hui Hui.cd.cc Hui.hh HuiQt.cc HuiQt.cd.cc HuiQt.hh Makefile Sender: owner-freebsd-libh@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG alex 2000/09/09 10:47:49 CDT Modified files: lib/hui Hui.cd.cc Hui.hh HuiQt.cc HuiQt.cd.cc HuiQt.hh Makefile Log: Bring in the basic framework for a new widget ``ContainerWidget'', which helps with simple positioning of objects withing the UI. It will be a complete virtual, non-visible widget. However, currently it is Qt only and includes only the basic functions a widget needs. It is already accessable by ``byName'' and similar functions, but prints much debug code only for most functions. It is derived from Hui::Widget and will support ALL functions a GroupWidget supports in future, plus some additional stuff that is needed for the child-positioning in the widget. The integration of new objects with TCL makes big problems, and this is the first version which actually compiles _AND_ works. This is the reason why I commit it. The next steps are: * TVision support * extend the widget to behave as a usual widget, i.e. resize/move it correctly * add GroupWidget functionality, i.e. make the ContainerWidget a possible parent for all other kinds of EmbeddedWidgets, GroupWidgets or ContainerWidgets * add automatical resizing and positioning of the childs within the container * remove debug code & commented-out code This commits includes some whitespace changes that I happened to introduce while working on the widget. However, all files need a complete whitespace markup anyways, so I kept them. Revision Changes Path 1.6 +39 -2 libh/lib/hui/Hui.cd.cc 1.5 +34 -25 libh/lib/hui/Hui.hh 1.6 +76 -3 libh/lib/hui/HuiQt.cc 1.6 +22 -1 libh/lib/hui/HuiQt.cd.cc 1.6 +72 -22 libh/lib/hui/HuiQt.hh 1.4 +6 -8 libh/lib/hui/Makefile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-libh" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-libh Sat Sep 9 9:13:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-libh@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8B837B424 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 09:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13XnFZ-000IlP-00; Sat, 09 Sep 2000 18:13:05 +0200 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 18:13:05 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Alexander Langer Cc: libh@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: libh/lib/hui Hui.cd.cc Hui.hh HuiQt.cc HuiQt.cd.cc HuiQt.hh Makefile Message-ID: <20000909181305.A72115@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <200009091547.KAA05572@usw4.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200009091547.KAA05572@usw4.freebsd.org>; from alex@usw4.freebsd.org on Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 10:47:49AM -0500 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-libh@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat 2000-09-09 (10:47), Alexander Langer wrote: > alex 2000/09/09 10:47:49 CDT > > Modified files: > lib/hui Hui.cd.cc Hui.hh HuiQt.cc HuiQt.cd.cc > HuiQt.hh Makefile > Log: > Bring in the basic framework for a new widget ``ContainerWidget'', which > helps with simple positioning of objects withing the UI. > It will be a complete virtual, non-visible widget. "We're not worthy, we're not worthy." Welcome back. (: > The next steps are: > * TVision support > * extend the widget to behave as a usual widget, i.e. resize/move > it correctly > * add GroupWidget functionality, i.e. make the ContainerWidget a > possible parent for all other kinds of EmbeddedWidgets, > GroupWidgets or ContainerWidgets > * add automatical resizing and positioning of the childs within > the container > * remove debug code & commented-out code If you keep making step lists, I can turn it into a project plan of sorts, and make a web page and stuff. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-libh" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-libh Sat Sep 9 9:21:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-libh@freebsd.org Received: from neutron.cichlids.com (as10-032.rp-plus.de [149.221.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3572737B446 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 09:21:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36A9AB98; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 18:24:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cichlids.cichlids.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BFA1814A8F; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 18:21:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 18:21:48 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: libh@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: libh/lib/hui Hui.cd.cc Hui.hh HuiQt.cc HuiQt.cd.cc HuiQt.hh Makefile Message-ID: <20000909182148.A69503@cichlids.cichlids.com> References: <200009091547.KAA05572@usw4.freebsd.org> <20000909181305.A72115@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000909181305.A72115@mithrandr.moria.org>; from nbm@mithrandr.moria.org on Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 06:13:05PM +0200 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. Sender: owner-freebsd-libh@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Neil Blakey-Milner (nbm@mithrandr.moria.org): > If you keep making step lists, I can turn it into a project plan of > sorts, and make a web page and stuff. Could be cool -- this page could then be listed on the FreeBSD's Project page. You know, we also have the /BUGS and /TODO files... Go for it! ;-) Alex -- cat: /home/alex/.sig: No such file or directory To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-libh" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-libh Sat Sep 9 10:38:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-libh@freebsd.org Received: from usw4.freebsd.org (usw4.freebsd.org [209.180.6.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5FE337B422 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 10:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from alex@localhost) by usw4.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA05684 for libh@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 12:38:42 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from alex) Message-Id: <200009091738.MAA05684@usw4.freebsd.org> From: Alexander Langer Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 12:38:42 -0500 (CDT) To: libh@FreeBSD.org Subject: cvs commit: libh/lib/hui HuiTVision.cc HuiTVision.cd.cc HuiTVision.hh Sender: owner-freebsd-libh@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG alex 2000/09/09 12:38:42 CDT Modified files: lib/hui HuiTVision.cc HuiTVision.cd.cc HuiTVision.hh Log: Enable ContainerWidget framework in the TVision part, too. For a proper commit log, refer to the Qt part. Revision Changes Path 1.8 +72 -1 libh/lib/hui/HuiTVision.cc 1.5 +21 -1 libh/lib/hui/HuiTVision.cd.cc 1.4 +49 -1 libh/lib/hui/HuiTVision.hh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-libh" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-libh Sat Sep 9 10:42:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-libh@freebsd.org Received: from usw4.freebsd.org (usw4.freebsd.org [209.180.6.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504AD37B42C for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 10:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from alex@localhost) by usw4.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA05716 for libh@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 12:42:37 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from alex) Message-Id: <200009091742.MAA05716@usw4.freebsd.org> From: Alexander Langer Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 12:42:37 -0500 (CDT) To: libh@FreeBSD.org Subject: cvs commit: libh Makefile.inc Sender: owner-freebsd-libh@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG alex 2000/09/09 12:42:37 CDT Modified files: . Makefile.inc Log: Reenable TVISION, since the ContainerWidget is now in HuiTVision.*, too. Note: I also changed the TCLVERSION to 8.3 in the _last_ commit. Revision Changes Path 1.6 +1 -3 libh/Makefile.inc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-libh" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-libh Sat Sep 9 10:43:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-libh@freebsd.org Received: from radon.gryphonsoft.com (mcut-b-167.resnet.purdue.edu [128.211.209.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E677037B424 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 10:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by radon.gryphonsoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5C7B918A2; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 12:40:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 12:40:55 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Alexander Langer Cc: libh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: libh/lib/hui HuiTVision.cc HuiTVision.cd.cc HuiTVision.hh Message-ID: <20000909124055.Z632@radon.gryphonsoft.com> Reply-To: Will Andrews Mail-Followup-To: Will Andrews , Alexander Langer , libh@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200009091738.MAA05684@usw4.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200009091738.MAA05684@usw4.freebsd.org>; from alex@usw4.freebsd.org on Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 12:38:42PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-libh@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 12:38:42PM -0500, Alexander Langer wrote: > Log: > Enable ContainerWidget framework in the TVision part, too. > For a proper commit log, refer to the Qt part. > > Revision Changes Path > 1.8 +72 -1 libh/lib/hui/HuiTVision.cc > 1.5 +21 -1 libh/lib/hui/HuiTVision.cd.cc > 1.4 +49 -1 libh/lib/hui/HuiTVision.hh /me ph33rs /me maintains the kde/qt ports but has less qt clue than you. -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+ a--- C++ UB++++$ P+ L- E--- W+ N-- !o ?K w--- O- M+ V- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X+ R+ tv+ b++ DI+++ D+ G++ e>++++ h! r- y? 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