From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Mar 5 5:50:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from wombat.core.gelsen-net.de (wombat.core.gelsen-net.de [212.6.185.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08BD337BA01 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 05:50:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jojo@buchonline.net) Received: from buchonline.net (pm3156.dial.gelsen-net.de [212.6.182.56]) by wombat.core.gelsen-net.de (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA16458; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 14:52:01 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <38C251BD.EA2BDC3E@buchonline.net> Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 13:23:25 +0100 From: Hans-Joachim Leidinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,de,de-DE MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexander Leidinger , freebsdmobil Subject: Re: PAO 3.4Release + DFE-650TX + Toshiba Satellite XDVD2650 References: <200003041754.SAA00428@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > On 1 Mar, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: > > >> I've searched the archives for some information about the DFE 650 and > >> PAO. I've found some success reports and some "kind of success" reports. > >> So there are installations where this combination works. Here it didn't > >> work (ed0 device timeout). > > > > I had this as well, it was just the IRQ being wrong. Just do a pccard > > dumpcis on the card and pick a config (the numeric parameter in the > > pccard.conf line) which has an IRQ which is available, etc. > > The card still didn't work. If someone has another idea feel free to > mail it and I give it a try next time I get my hands on the laptop. > > Bye, > Alexander. I have this notebook now and i need it for my work. Any hints, helps and suggestions are very welcome. Joachim (the brother) -- -------------Hans-Joachim Leidinger--------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Mar 5 9:57:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6787737BA45 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 09:57:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA65906 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 13:02:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 13:02:43 -0500 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: ES1888 in DELL Lattitude XPi 133ST Message-ID: <20000305130242.A64252@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Reply-To: cjclark@home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am trying to get the sound to work in my DELL Latitude XPi 133ST. The sound card is listed as an ES1888. I have tried both the VOXWARE and Luigi's drivers. I search of the mail archived turned up some other questions about this system, but not a lot of answers. I seem to have gotten both to find the card, but that seems to be the end of the road. Here is how I have tried the VOXWARE driver, controller snd0 #device pas0 at isa? port 0x388 irq 10 drq 6 #device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 device sb0 at isa? port 0x230 irq 5 drq 1 device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 #device awe0 at isa? port 0x620 #device gus0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 12 drq 1 #device gus0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 12 drq 1 flags 0x3 #device mss0 at isa? port 0x530 irq 10 drq 1 #device css0 at isa? port 0x534 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x08 #device sscape0 at isa? port 0x330 irq 9 drq 0 #device trix0 at isa? port 0x330 irq 6 drq 0 #device sscape_mss0 at isa? port 0x534 irq 5 drq 1 device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 #device mpu0 at isa? port 0x330 irq 6 drq 0 #device uart0 at isa? port 0x330 irq 5 The corresponding dmesg output on boot was, sb0 at 0x230 irq 5 drq 1 on isa Hmm... Could this be an ESS688 based card (rev 11) snd0: sbxvi0 not found sbmidi0 not found at 0x330 opl0 at 0x388 on isa snd0: If I actually try to make a sound, % cat sound.au > /dev/audio SoundBlaster: DSP Command(0xd3) timeout. IRQ conflict ? Is what I get. I've tried some other things with VOXWARE. Since, sbxvi0 and sbmidi0 were not found, I cut them from the config, but then I get, sb0 at 0x230 irq 5 drq 1 on isa Hmm... Could this be an ESS688 based card (rev 11) NOTE! SB Pro support required with your soundcard! snd0: opl0 at 0x388 on isa snd0: Now moving on to the pcm0 driver. All I did for that was, #device pcm0 at isa? port ? tty irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x0 device pcm0 at isa? port 230 tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x0 And got, pcm0 at 0x230 irq 5 drq 1 on isa ESS1868 (rev 11) But when I try to use it, % cat sound.au > /dev/audio timeout flushing dbuf_out, chan 1 cnt 0x7414 flags 0x00000441 Does anyone have one of these working or can offer a pointer to more info? -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Mar 5 13:13:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from snail.ite.mh.se (snail.nts.mh.se [193.10.250.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765BE37BAF5 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 13:13:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from forda@ite.mh.se) Received: from oden (forda@oden [10.14.4.5]) by snail.ite.mh.se (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA03441 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 22:12:50 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 22:09:39 +0100 (MET) From: Daniel Forsgren X-Sender: forda@oden To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: WaveLAN problems in 4.0 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've managed to get my WaveLAN card to work in 4.0-Current RC2 (20000214). When running in ad-hoc mode with a win98 lapop in the other end, the link works just fine according to wavemanager, so the radio part seem to be working. But if I assign an IP address to the WaveLAN card using ifconfig wi0 192.168.0.2 (the win machine is 192.168.0.1) a series of nasty errors appear: wi0: device timeout wi0: tx buffer allocation failed wi0: xmit failed wi0: failed to allocate 1594 bytes on NIC ... etc (repeats, and system hangs sporadically) The same thing happens if I try to connect through a base station (when I try to get an IP address using dhcpclient the same error messages appear). Is this problem possible to resolve somehow, without having to revert to an older version of FBSD and use PAO? Thanks in advance, /Daniel F. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Mar 5 16:52:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from Mail.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.1.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5FC37BB8B for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 16:52:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dieringe@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: by Mail.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (Smail3.2.0.98) from komma.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.1.46) with esmtp id ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 01:52:16 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 01:52:16 +0100 From: Martin Dieringer To: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: netboot via pccard? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, is it possible to boot via network with a pccard? Or at least to mount directories like /usr by nfs? The pccards are probed AFTER mounting filesystems, can this be changed? I have a 3com 589D and 4.0-CURRENT. martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Mar 6 1:27:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F0037BCCA for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 01:27:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA53221; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 02:27:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id CAA57771; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 02:27:27 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003060927.CAA57771@harmony.village.org> To: Martin Dieringer Subject: Re: netboot via pccard? Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 06 Mar 2000 01:52:16 +0100." References: Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 02:27:27 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message Martin Dieringer writes: : is it possible to boot via network with a pccard? Not from scratch. At last I've not seen a laptop with this feature, but I have seen some embedded systems that could do this. : Or at least to mount directories like /usr by nfs? : The pccards are probed AFTER mounting filesystems, can this be changed? : I have a 3com 589D and 4.0-CURRENT. Well, you'd have to try hard to do this. Enough hacking on /etc/rc could likely make this work. pccardd can run after / has been mounted r/w (maybe even while it is still r/o). It doesn't need anything in /usr. So if you have a local /, then you might be able to do that. NEWCARD will likely change this... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Mar 6 14: 7:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mgw-x1.nokia.com (mgw-x1.nokia.com [131.228.20.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732DF37BBF2 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 14:07:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (mvdhcp141236.americas.nokia.com [172.18.141.236]) by mgw-x1.nokia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA00378; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 00:07:39 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: mgw-x1.nokia.com: Host mvdhcp141236.americas.nokia.com [172.18.141.236] claimed to be nomad.yogotech.com Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA02960; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 14:34:32 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 14:34:32 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003062134.OAA02960@nomad.yogotech.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Warner Losh Cc: Martin Dieringer , mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: netboot via pccard? In-Reply-To: <200003060927.CAA57771@harmony.village.org> References: <200003060927.CAA57771@harmony.village.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > : is it possible to boot via network with a pccard? > > Not from scratch. At last I've not seen a laptop with this feature, > but I have seen some embedded systems that could do this. A couple of years ago my former employer (SRI) had someone that had this work. However, it took two PCMCIA cards, one for the 'roof filesystem' sitting on a memory-hardisk, and the second card was the network. He donated the pccardd -z code, among other things that the PAO folks picked up. However, we can't do this any longer since Mike ripped out the netboot code, stating that 'new way' of doing things was so much better... Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Mar 6 18: 3: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from blues.jpj.net (blues.jpj.net [204.97.17.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25A037BE4E for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 18:03:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from benh@jpj.net) Received: from [192.168.10.2] (somewhat.horked.net [199.217.220.2]) by blues.jpj.net (right/backatcha) with ESMTP id VAA17312 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 21:03:00 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: benh@blues.jpj.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:02:58 -0600 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: Ben Hockenhull Subject: Aironet: Doug's vs wpaul? Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have an Aironet 4800 series (128 bit WEP) PCMCIA 802.11 card that I wish to use under 3.4-STABLE. However, I'm a bit uncertain regarding which driver to use. wpaul has aironet drivers for 3.x at http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/Aironet. Doug Ambrisko has drivers at http://www.ambrisko.com/doug/. Which is considered to be the 'best' driver to use for a 3.4-STABLE system? I'm tracking -stable via cvs, if that's a consideration. Given that Doug's code is based on wpauls and appears to be newer and specifically supports -current, I'm guessing that his might be the way to go. Thanks, Ben -- Ben Hockenhull benh@jpj.net "Revenge is a dish best served with pinto beans and muffins." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Mar 7 9:10:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from wombat.core.gelsen-net.de (wombat.core.gelsen-net.de [212.6.185.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8CF37BB0C for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:10:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jojo@home.gelsen-net.de) Received: from server.intrabol.local (pm3218.dial.gelsen-net.de [212.6.182.82]) by wombat.core.gelsen-net.de (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA03523 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:11:46 +0100 (MET) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by server.intrabol.local (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA09109 for freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:09:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jojo) Message-Id: <200003071709.SAA09109@server.intrabol.local> Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:09:15 +0100 (CET) From: jojo@buchonline.net Subject: D-LINK DFE-650TX and Toshiba XDVD 2650 doesn't work! To: FreeBSDMobile MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello List, i'm seeking for a solutions. I have searched the archiv, used the dejanews and i have tried different setting without success. I use FreeBSD 3.4 and PAO! The LEDs "Ln/Act" and "10/100" is flashing periodic (ca. 1.sec) and i get "ed0 device timeout". The FAQ tell me, there are an irq conflict. But i am not able to fetch the right irq, because i'm a newbie in FreeBSD and i am missing the step by step manual. I have found a dumpcis of DFE-650 via dejanews and i noticed the difference at Tuple #6. From the archiv, i see "length=38" and my dumpcis tell me, the length is 40. Maybe this is the reason of my horror trip? Maybe, i get failure with Autonegotiaton? I am seeking for the right setting in rc.conf too (media 100BaseTX mediaopts half-duplex?). Any hints, helps and suggestions are very welcome! Thanks! Regards, Joachim -----------------snipp------------------- This is my dumpcis: Configuration data for card in slot 0 Tuple #1, code = 0x1 (Common memory descriptor), length = 3 000: d1 3a ff Common memory device information: Device number 1, type Function specific, WPS = OFF Speed = 250nS, Memory block size = 8Kb, 8 units Tuple #2, code = 0x1c (Other conditions for common memory), length = 4 000: 01 d1 3a ff (MWAIT) Tuple #3, code = 0x17 (Attribute memory descriptor), length = 3 000: 41 00 ff Attribute memory device information: Device number 1, type EEPROM, WPS = OFF Speed = 250nS, Memory block size = 512b, 1 units Tuple #4, code = 0x20 (Manufacturer ID), length = 4 000: 49 01 30 02 PCMCIA ID = 0x149, OEM ID = 0x230 Tuple #5, code = 0x21 (Functional ID), length = 2 000: 06 01 Network/LAN adapter - POST initialize Tuple #6, code = 0x15 (Version 1 info), length = 40 000: 04 01 44 2d 4c 69 6e 6b 00 44 46 45 2d 36 35 30 010: 00 46 61 73 74 20 45 74 68 65 72 6e 65 74 00 52 020: 65 76 2e 20 44 31 00 ff Version = 4.1, Manuf = [D-Link], card vers = [DFE-650] Addit. info = [Fast Ethernet],[Rev. D1] Tuple #7, code = 0x1a (Configuration map), length = 5 000: 01 20 00 04 0b Reg len = 2, config register addr = 0x400, last config = 0x20 Registers: XX-X---- Tuple #8, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 7 000: e0 81 18 45 30 fc be Config index = 0x20(default) Interface byte = 0x81 (I/O) wait signal supported Card decodes 5 address lines, limited 8/16 Bit I/O IRQ modes: Level IRQs: 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 13 15 Tuple #9, code = 0x14 (No link), length = 0 Tuple #10, code = 0xff (Terminator), length = 0 2 slots found -----------------snipp------------------- This is my dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE #0: Tue Mar 7 17:18:51 CET 2000 root@freebsd.intrabol.local:/big/usr/src/sys/compile/Mobile_Kernel Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193152 Hz CPU: Celeron (463.54-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x66a Stepping = 10 Features=0x183f9ff rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x03 on pci0.1.0 chip2: rev 0x02 on pci0.5.0 ide_pci0: rev 0x01 on pci0.5.1 uhci0: rev 0x01 int d irq 11 on pci0.5.2 chip3: rev 0x03 on pci0.5.3 chip4: rev 0x20 int a irq 255 on pci0.11.0 chip5: rev 0x20 int b irq 255 on pci0.11.1 Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: vga0: rev 0x49 int a irq 11 on pci1.0.0 Probing for devices on PCI bus 2: Probing for devices on PCI bus 3: Probing for devices on PCI bus 4: Probing for devices on PCI bus 5: Probing for devices on PCI bus 6: Probing for devices on PCI bus 7: Probing for devices on PCI bus 8: Probing for devices on PCI bus 9: Probing for devices on PCI bus 10: Probing for devices on PCI bus 11: Probing for devices on PCI bus 12: Probing for devices on PCI bus 13: Probing for devices on PCI bus 14: Probing for devices on PCI bus 15: Probing for devices on PCI bus 16: Probing for devices on PCI bus 17: Probing for devices on PCI bus 18: Probing for devices on PCI bus 19: Probing for devices on PCI bus 20: Probing for devices on PCI bus 21: Probing for PnP devices: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 not found at 0x300 atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 irq 12 on isa psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A pca0 on motherboard pca0: PC speaker audio driver fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 5729MB (11733120 sectors), 12416 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa ppc0: Generic chipset (ECP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 plip0: on ppbus 0 pcic0 at 0x3e0-0x3e1 irq 15 on isa PC-Card ctlr(0) Intel 82365A/B (5 mem & 2 I/O windows) pcic0: slot 0 controller I/O address 0x3e0 pcic0: slot 1 controller I/O address 0x3e0 vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface apm0 on isa apm: found APM BIOS version 1.2 usb0: uhub0 at usb0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Initializing PC-card drivers: ed ep xe sio wdc changing root device to wd0s2a Card inserted, slot 0 sio0: 1 more silo overflow (total 1) card0: assign ed0 iobase 0x240 irq 3 flags 0x10 ed0: address 01:d1:ff:04:d1:ff, type NE2000 (16 bit) ed0: unload Return IRQ=3 Card removed, slot 0 Card inserted, slot 0 card0: assign ed0 iobase 0x240 irq 3 flags 0x10 ed0: address 01:d1:ff:04:d1:ff, type NE2000 (16 bit) -----------------snipp------------------- and this is my kernelconfig controller pci0 # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support - do not remove. pseudo-device card 1 #controller card0 # You must use "flags 0x1" when you don't hear any negotiation noise(?) # if you use modem card, or pccardd doesn't read cis tuple, tell you # 'No card in database for"(null)"("(null)")' in case of Cirrus Logic's # pcic is your PC. #device pcic0 at card? #device pcic0 at isa? port 0x3e0 irq 5 #device pcic0 at isa? port 0x400 device pcic0 at isa? port 0x3e0 irq 5 #device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 #device ed0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 15 flags 0x14 iomem 0xd8000 device ed0 device ep0 device xe0 -- Hans-Joachim Leidinger buch online jojo@buchonline.net Munscheidstr. 14 FAX: +49 209 1971449 45886 Gelsenkirchen FAX: 0209 1671449 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Mar 7 9:16:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C25137BBFC for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:16:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 12SNaT-0002Ij-00 for freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 07 Mar 2000 12:16:01 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 12:16:00 -0500 From: Peter Radcliffe To: FreeBSDMobile Subject: Re: D-LINK DFE-650TX and Toshiba XDVD 2650 doesn't work! Message-ID: <20000307121600.D6030@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSDMobile References: <200003071709.SAA09109@server.intrabol.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200003071709.SAA09109@server.intrabol.local>; from jojo@buchonline.net on Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 06:09:15PM +0100 X-fish: < Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org jojo@buchonline.net probably said: > I use FreeBSD 3.4 and PAO! The LEDs "Ln/Act" and "10/100" is flashing > periodic (ca. 1.sec) and i get "ed0 device timeout". The FAQ tell me, > there are an irq conflict. But i am not able to fetch the right irq, > because i'm a newbie in FreeBSD and i am missing the step by step > manual. Edit /etc/pccard.conf > horror trip? Maybe, i get failure with Autonegotiaton? I am seeking for > the right setting in rc.conf too (media 100BaseTX mediaopts > half-duplex?). You can't set those with the ed driver. > card0: assign ed0 iobase 0x240 irq 3 flags 0x10 > ed0: address 01:d1:ff:04:d1:ff, type NE2000 (16 bit) That isn't the same card as my DFE-650TX - it shows up as a Linksys 16 bit. Perhaps they are selling several cards as the same model, as many other manufacturers are doing :/ P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Mar 7 10:40:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from barmetta.barmetta.com (cm-24-142-60-178.cableco-op.ispchannel.com [24.142.60.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25FC737C0DB for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:40:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bryan@barmetta.barmetta.com) Received: (from bryan@localhost) by barmetta.barmetta.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA74284; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:40:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bryan) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:40:09 -0800 From: "bryan d. o'connor" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: yamaha ds-xg and 4.0-CURRENT Message-ID: <20000307104009.A74270@barmetta.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i X-X: super karate monkey death car Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i'm trying to get sound working on a sony vaio z505hs. (newer vaios use yamaha ds-xg chips whereas the previous version used the neomagic 256av) running 4.0-current i've had the best luck with: device pcm device sbc0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 causes: sbc0: at port 0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 on isa0 pcm0: on sbc0 but when i play audio, it just hangs. according to windows, the device is: yamaha ds-xg pci audio codem (wdm) irq 09 mem 80008000-8000ffff io 1400-143f io 1058-105b i tried changing the port/irq etc, but have had no luck. port 0x220/irq 9 - device found, pcm doesn't attach. (resource not allocated error, sbc returns 6) port 0x1040/irq 5|9 - device not found. (adding iomem 0x80008000 to any of the above made no difference.) how should the settings that windows uses correspond to what i set in the kernel config? should i even be using sbc0? i didn't think i would need it because i thought the ds-xg was a pci chip. i initially had tried just "device pcm0" and fiddling with PNPBIOS (and PNP OS in the bios) etc.. but no go. i'm pretty sure this is the device as reported by the pci probe: pci0: (vendor=0x1073, dev=0x0010) at 9.0 irq 9 full dmesg output is below. thanks for any help you can offer. ...bryan ---snip--- Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #13: Mon Mar 6 20:40:25 PST 2000 root@fegmania.barmetta.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/FEGMANIA Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon (496.31-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x681 Stepping = 1 Features=0x383f9ff real memory = 268369920 (262080K bytes) avail memory = 257101824 (251076K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc031c000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface apm0: on motherboard apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2 pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 irq 9 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xfc90-0xfc9f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xfca0-0xfcbf irq 9 at device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered chip1: port 0x1040-0x104f at device 7.3 on pci0 pci0: (vendor=0x104d, dev=0x8039) at 8.0 irq 9 pci0: (vendor=0x1073, dev=0x0010) at 9.0 irq 9 pci0: (vendor=0x14f1, dev=0x2443) at 10.0 irq 9 fxp0: port 0xfc40-0xfc7f mem 0xfec00000-0xfecfffff,0xfedf6000-0xfedf6fff irq 9 at device 11.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 08:00:46:05:dd:b1 pcic-pci0: at device 12.0 on pci0 pci0: (vendor=0x104d, dev=0x808a) at 13.0 irq 9 fdc0: direction bit not set fdc0: cmd 3 failed at out byte 1 of 3 atkbdc0: at port 0x60-0x6f on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model GlidePoint, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> pcic: management irq 10 pcic0: at port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 irq 10 on isa0 pccard0: on pcic0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sbc0: at port 0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 on isa0 pcm0: on sbc0 unknown0: at port 0x398-0x399,0x4d0-0x4d1,0x8000-0x804f,0x1040-0x104f,0x10-0x18,0x1f,0x24-0x25,0x28-0x29,0x2c-0x2d,0x30-0x31,0x34-0x35,0x38-0x39,0x3c-0x3d,0x50-0x52,0x72-0x77,0x80,0x90-0x9f,0xa4-0xa5,0xa8-0xa9,0xac-0xad,0xb0-0xbd iomem 0xfff80000-0xffffffff,0xfff7f600-0xfff7ffff on isa0 unknown1: at iomem 0-0x9ffff,0xe8000-0xfffff,0x100000-0xfffffff on isa0 unknown2: at port 0-0xf,0x81-0x8f,0xc0-0xdf drq 4 on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources unknown3: at port 0x40-0x43 irq 0 on isa0 unknown4: at port 0x70-0x71 irq 8 on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources unknown5: at port 0xf0-0xff irq 13 on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources unknown6: at port 0xcf8-0xcff on isa0 unknown7: at iomem 0xdc000-0xdffff on isa0 unknown8: on isa0 unknown9: at port 0x3e0-0x3e1 on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources ad0: 11513MB [23392/16/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a pccard: card inserted, slot 0 sio2 at port 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 10 slot 0 on pccard0 sio2: type 16550A To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Mar 7 21:34:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from gta.com (gw.gta.com [199.120.225.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341A337C186 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 21:34:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lab@gta.com) Received: from gta.com (GTA internal mail system) by gta.com id AAA71184 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 00:40:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 00:40:02 -0500 From: Larry Baird To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Amacom Baby CD player Message-ID: <20000308004002.A70940@max2.gta.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am in the market for a small portable CD player. My current choice is Amacom Baby CD player (http://www.amacom-tech.com/babycd.htm). Does any body have any experience with this player under FreeBSD? Does anybody have a recomendation for a small light portable CD player with a pc-card interface? Thanks, Larry -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Larry Baird | HTTP://www.gnatbox.com Global Technology Associates, Inc. | Orlando, FL Email: lab@gta.com | TEL 407-380-0220, FAX 407-380-6080 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 8 8: 5:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from sargasso.cse.msu.edu (sargasso.cse.msu.edu [35.9.20.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C22B37B82F for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:05:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bg@cse.msu.edu) Received: from dog.cse.msu.edu (dog.cse.msu.edu [35.9.20.45]) by sargasso.cse.msu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17051 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:05:29 -0500 (EST) From: Boris Gelfand Received: (from bg@localhost) by dog.cse.msu.edu (8.9.3/8.8.8) id LAA07044 for freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:01:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:01:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200003081601.LAA07044@dog.cse.msu.edu> To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: green_saver acting wacky in 3.4-R Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, Prior to a complete re-install with 3.4-R, I ran 3.0 and 3.2 on my Panasonic CF-35 as well as a Gateway Solo at work with no problems. Since going to 3.4-R on both machine, my green_saver in console mode has started to go wacky. Whenever it fires up, both displays show color bleed and ghost images -- pretty scary stuff. One laptop has Neomagic and the other Chips&Tech. I've got my kernel with the speudo-device splace, and "VM86" & "VESA" options turned on. Other screen savers work fine (blank, snake, etc.) "power_saver" mode in XFree86 works fine as well -- suspend properly turns off the backlight, etc. Any idea as to what's up? Thanks in advance -- --Boris bg@cse.msu.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 8 11:10:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from web115.yahoomail.com (web115.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A24D037B513 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:10:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tmcb1971@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 11038 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Mar 2000 19:10:18 -0000 Message-ID: <20000308191018.11037.qmail@web115.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.5.63.61] by web115.yahoomail.com; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:10:18 PST Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:10:18 -0800 (PST) From: tom brown Subject: Is the PAO install always this hard? To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'll keep this short and sweet. I've been using FreeBSD for 3 years and I would say I am quite familiar with it. I just made the mistake of trying to install in on a Laptop. Inially encoraged by the sucessful recognition of my card I continued only to get some message about paobin not being available from the main site. So I try to change the site and pick up hte extra components and ....... I can't unbelieveable!!!!! Then I try to go back into the install and collect them from the new session and I get a file transfer erroe because the file system is full (not rw mounted I'll bet!)....... unbelieveable !!!! So I back off and try again from fresh (2hours later that is!). This time I select the pao site for the full install and guess what.... I can't get the bin's. This is a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll also bet that if I ever get the full sources etc together on the same machine at the same time, it will take be four days to get the card recognised. I'm sure the technology all works but this is even worse than trying to get windows to work properly. Get your act together!! T __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 8 11:34:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ptldpop3.ptld.uswest.net (ptldpop3.ptld.uswest.net [198.36.160.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A119237B6B5 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:34:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wwoods@cybcon.com) Received: (qmail 28719 invoked by alias); 8 Mar 2000 19:33:39 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org@fixme Received: (qmail 28690 invoked by uid 0); 8 Mar 2000 19:33:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.cybcon.com) (63.163.56.89) by pop.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 8 Mar 2000 19:33:38 -0000 Content-Length: 2371 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20000308191018.11037.qmail@web115.yahoomail.com> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:31:20 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: bwoods2@uswest.net From: William Woods To: tom brown Subject: RE: Is the PAO install always this hard? Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I also have FreeBSD on a laptop....I did not use the pao install at all...I found it a pain. There are a couple options I can suggest: 1) If your Laptop has a CDROM, install a 3.4 from there and cvsup to the latest sources. 2) Install -current (which I am running). It detected my pcmcia NIC right off the bat with the boot floppies. What card do you have that you think may not be seen or hard to configure? It took me about 3 hrs to get my system to see both my NIC and PCMCIA modem after the install...it wasnt that difficult. On 08-Mar-00 tom brown wrote: > Hi, > > I'll keep this short and sweet. > > I've been using FreeBSD for 3 years and I would say I > am quite familiar with it. > > I just made the mistake of trying to install in on a > Laptop. > > Inially encoraged by the sucessful recognition of my > card I continued only to get some message about paobin > not being available from the main site. > > So I try to change the site and pick up hte extra > components and ....... I can't unbelieveable!!!!! > > Then I try to go back into the install and collect > them from the new session and I get a file transfer > erroe because the file system is full (not rw mounted > I'll bet!)....... unbelieveable !!!! > > So I back off and try again from fresh (2hours later > that is!). This time I select the pao site for the > full install and guess what.... I can't get the > bin's. > > This is a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > I'll also bet that if I ever get the full sources etc > together on the same machine at the same time, it will > take be four days to get the card recognised. > > I'm sure the technology all works but this is even > worse than trying to get windows to work properly. > > Get your act together!! > > T > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message ---------------------------------- E-Mail: bwoods2@uswest.net Date: 08-Mar-00 Time: 11:28:22l ---------------------------------- NOTICE TO BULK E-MAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, and all unsolicited commercial e-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 8 12:22:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F3737C295 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:22:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23544; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:21:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: tom brown Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is the PAO install always this hard? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:10:18 PST." <20000308191018.11037.qmail@web115.yahoomail.com> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 12:21:14 -0800 Message-ID: <23541.952546874@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I've been using FreeBSD for 3 years and I would say I > am quite familiar with it. Then you should know enough to include the VERSION NUMBER of FreeBSD you're actually trying to install. Here I see only a rant and questionable intelligence at work. Kindly get YOUR act together and maybe we'll actually accomplish something beyond the mere venting of your spleen here. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 8 12:49: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from relay20.smtp.psi.net (relay20.smtp.psi.net [38.8.20.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F5537B53B for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:48:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pgatz@tiac.net) Received: from [205.161.57.120] (helo=tiac.net) by relay20.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 12SnNy-0007XI-00; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:48:51 -0500 Message-ID: <38C6BBA2.FACF967C@tiac.net> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 15:44:19 -0500 From: Peter G Organization: Ethernet Solns R&C X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: tom brown , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is the PAO install always this hard? References: <23541.952546874@zippy.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've installed FBSD PAO 3.3 & 3.4 successfully on over a dozen laptops. All were either IBM TP 760ED or 770 series. What I have come up w/ is 2 rules of thumb to make life easier 1.) Keep the memory to 32MB or so during the install, then add the addl' memory chips later as desired. 2.) Put ALL the install dirs (except the packages) along with the PAOBIN dir right ON the HD that you'll be installing onto, on the same machine and pick "install from an existing file system". This can be a DOS partition upfront or whatever. Remember that a small DOS partition up front is desirable to be able to run those utilities to set up say your 3COM PCMCIA NIC to the right IRQ, or flash your BIOS etc. Should you wish you can also include the latest XF86 dir as well. (XF86336 right now) Also I assume you're booting off of the PAO 3.4 boot floppy. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 8 15:55: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (orthanc.ab.ca [207.167.3.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E401837B81B for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:54:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca) Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orthanc.ab.ca (8.10.0.Beta11/8.10.0.Beta6) with ESMTP id e28Nsmq74212 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 16:54:49 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003082354.e28Nsmq74212@orthanc.ab.ca> To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Anyone running PAO+KAME? Organization: The Frobozz Magic Homing Pigeon Company Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 16:54:48 -0700 From: Lyndon Nerenberg Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rre any of you running 3.[34]+PAO+KAME? I'm curious as to whether there are collisions in /sys or /usr/include that would prevent a kernel build. --lyndon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 8 16:21:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D994337B696 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 16:21:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA65178; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:21:02 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id RAA04557; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:20:46 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003090020.RAA04557@harmony.village.org> To: Larry Baird Subject: Re: Amacom Baby CD player Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 08 Mar 2000 00:40:02 EST." <20000308004002.A70940@max2.gta.com> References: <20000308004002.A70940@max2.gta.com> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 17:20:46 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20000308004002.A70940@max2.gta.com> Larry Baird writes: : I am in the market for a small portable CD player. My current : choice is Amacom Baby CD player (http://www.amacom-tech.com/babycd.htm). : Does any body have any experience with this player under FreeBSD? Nope. : Does anybody have a recomendation for a small light portable CD : player with a pc-card interface? My Microtech CDROM works great with my VAIO right now. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 8 16:54:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.shikoku.ne.jp (smtp.shikoku.ne.jp [210.157.171.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 68D5537B725 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 16:54:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nin@shikoku.ne.jp) Received: (qmail 12795 invoked by alias); 9 Mar 2000 09:54:49 +0900 Received: (qmail 12780 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2000 09:54:47 +0900 Received: from a079.uwajima.shikoku.ne.jp (HELO shikoku.ne.jp) (210.157.174.79) by smtp.shikoku.ne.jp with SMTP; 9 Mar 2000 09:54:47 +0900 Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 09:53:58 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20000309.095358.48386251.nin@smtp.shikoku.ne.jp> To: tmcb1971@yahoo.com Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is the PAO install always this hard? From: Ninomiya Hideyuki In-Reply-To: <20000308191018.11037.qmail@web115.yahoomail.com> References: <20000308191018.11037.qmail@web115.yahoomail.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.95b28 on XEmacs 21.1 (Canyonlands) X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6C59 EC08 5B23 6490 44D0 7CD3 DA40 219F 7114 8553 X-PGP-Public-Key: http://user.shikoku.ne.jp/~nin/pgp/public-key.txt X-URL: http://user.shikoku.ne.jp/~nin/index.html Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm a Japanese PAO user. tom brown wrote Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:10:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: Is the PAO install always this hard? Message-ID: <20000308191018.11037.qmail@web115.yahoomail.com> > Inially encoraged by the sucessful recognition of my > card I continued only to get some message about paobin > not being available from the main site. > > So I try to change the site and pick up hte extra > components and ....... I can't unbelieveable!!!!! File of paobin,paosrc is there in ftp://daemon.jp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD-jp/flp/3.4-RELERSE/ of PAO master site. In addition, those is there in ftp*.jp.FreeBSD.org of PAO mirror site in Japan. File of paodist.tar which did archive of paobin directory paosrc directory is put in the same places. You can do installation of PAO if you utilize these file. If this mail helps you, I am happy. --- * This message is a thing by output of automatic translation. * * Therefore it will be for there to be a lot of funny parts. * * Please approve it. * Ninomiya(family name) Hideyuki(fast name) @ ehime japan mailto:nin@shikoku.ne.jp PGP-Fingerprint:6C59 EC08 5B23 6490 44D0 7CD3 DA40 219F 7114 8553 PGP-Public-Key: http://user.shikoku.ne.jp/~nin/pgp/public-key.txt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 8 17:23:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from web121.yahoomail.com (web121.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D7BC37B6DC for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:23:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tmcb1971@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 2175 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Mar 2000 01:23:42 -0000 Message-ID: <20000309012342.2174.qmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.215.8.122] by web121.yahoomail.com; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 17:23:42 PST Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:23:42 -0800 (PST) From: tom brown Subject: Re: Is the PAO install always this hard? To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org OK mate!, Release 3.4 . As for the questionable inetlligence and the venting of spleen, it is obvious that no-one gives a toss as this has been the case for at least two versions. Judging by the amount of POSATIVE feedback I got about how shit this situation your response is highly hypocritical !! If you want me to bounce these e-mail's to you I will. I have spoken with some former BSD 4.3 architects that I work with and even they found it non-senseical. Wind your neck in Jordan!! T > I've been using FreeBSD for 3 years and I would say I > am quite familiar with it. Then you should know enough to include the VERSION NUMBER of FreeBSD you're actually trying to install. Here I see only a rant and questionable intelligence at work. Kindly get YOUR act together and maybe we'll actually accomplish something beyond the mere venting of your spleen here. - Jordan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 8 17:31: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A758437B6DC for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:31:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA24943; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:29:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: tom brown Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is the PAO install always this hard? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 08 Mar 2000 17:23:42 PST." <20000309012342.2174.qmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 17:29:36 -0800 Message-ID: <24940.952565376@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > OK mate!, > > Release 3.4 . Fine, thanks for the follow-up. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 8 17:37:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (mass.cdrom.com [204.216.28.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E4B37B71E for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:37:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00812; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:38:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200003090138.RAA00812@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: tom brown Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is the PAO install always this hard? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 08 Mar 2000 17:23:42 PST." <20000309012342.2174.qmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 17:38:22 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Er, just in case you hadn't noticed, the PAO releases are managed by the PAO team, none of whom you are addressing here. (Most of them, not being native English speakers in the first place, would have trouble with your unique approach to sentence structure and spelling.) I would also suggest that you carefully consider the application of the expression "to bite the hands that feed you" in this context, and perhaps attempt a more reasonable tone and style of communication in the future should you wish to continue to interact with the members of this list. > OK mate!, > > Release 3.4 . > > As for the questionable inetlligence and the venting > of spleen, it is obvious that no-one gives a toss as > this has been the case for at least two versions. > Judging by the amount of POSATIVE feedback I got about > how shit this situation your response is highly > hypocritical !! > > If you want me to bounce these e-mail's to you I will. > > I have spoken with some former BSD 4.3 architects that > I work with and even they found it non-senseical. > > Wind your neck in Jordan!! > > T > > > > > I've been using FreeBSD for 3 years and I would say > I > > am quite familiar with it. > > Then you should know enough to include the VERSION > NUMBER of FreeBSD > you're actually trying to install. Here I see only a > rant and > questionable intelligence at work. Kindly get YOUR > act together and > maybe we'll actually accomplish something beyond the > mere venting of > your spleen here. > > - Jordan > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 8 18: 2:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from katroo.Sendmail.COM (katroo.Sendmail.COM [209.246.26.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C8537B550 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 18:02:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chrisd@sendmail.com) Received: from sendmail.com (gabriel.Sendmail.COM [10.210.100.74]) by katroo.Sendmail.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00510; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 18:02:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38C7061D.BE8044B@sendmail.com> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 18:02:05 -0800 From: Christian DeKonink Organization: Sendmail, Inc - Services Department X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tom brown Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is the PAO install always this hard? References: <20000308191018.11037.qmail@web115.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well I must say that it took a heck of a lot of work for me to get my laptop working but it was expected and I am not complaining. I first had to borrow a 3com 589D ethernet card from a friend . I installed 3.2 on my laptop and cvsup'ed 3.4 so I had all the latest and greatest code. I have a 3com 575 10/100 which I purchased from dell when i bought my laptop. As far as I know, that card is not supported under freebsd. I wish I could write a driver for it but I am not at that level of programming. So I had to "borrow" a 3com 574 for 100mb and i had to install PAO 3.4 in order to see the card. I did not install from PAO boot floppies, but instead I ftp'd it. I managed to install it, but only after restoring some of the original kernel source code which couldn't compile under the PAO patch. Anyway my laptop is working with 100mb ethernet, without sound, and without power management. Needless to say I am very happy with it. I love it and I wouldn't trade the OS for anything else. Well maybe for -current, and hopefully get apm to work someday. Thanks FreeBSD developers, Chris tom brown wrote: > > Hi, > > I'll keep this short and sweet. > > I've been using FreeBSD for 3 years and I would say I > am quite familiar with it. > > I just made the mistake of trying to install in on a > Laptop. > > Inially encoraged by the sucessful recognition of my > card I continued only to get some message about paobin > not being available from the main site. > > So I try to change the site and pick up hte extra > components and ....... I can't unbelieveable!!!!! > > Then I try to go back into the install and collect > them from the new session and I get a file transfer > erroe because the file system is full (not rw mounted > I'll bet!)....... unbelieveable !!!! > > So I back off and try again from fresh (2hours later > that is!). This time I select the pao site for the > full install and guess what.... I can't get the > bin's. > > This is a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > I'll also bet that if I ever get the full sources etc > together on the same machine at the same time, it will > take be four days to get the card recognised. > > I'm sure the technology all works but this is even > worse than trying to get windows to work properly. > > Get your act together!! > > T > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message -- Christian DeKonink Technical Support Engineer Sendmail Inc. www.sendmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 8 18:42:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from server.woodson.com (server.woodson.com [209.136.195.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F3D37B5D7 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 18:42:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lance@woodson.com) Received: from woodson.com ([130.184.140.74]) by server.woodson.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA11947 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 20:42:28 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from lance@woodson.com) Message-ID: <38C70FBE.C0541628@woodson.com> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 20:43:10 -0600 From: Lance Woodson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Why PAO? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org First off, I really appreciate the work that PAO does and I hope this is not a touchy subject however... Why is there PAO? Can we integrate their work into FreeBSD and then have them work directly with the FreeBSD codebase? Are they willing? Is FreeBSD willing? Would this be feasable? Thanks for any insight that might help to appease my soul, Lance Woodson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 8 18:57:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0A337B8C4 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 18:57:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA20126; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 19:29:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 19:29:25 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Lance Woodson Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why PAO? Message-ID: <20000308192925.C14279@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <38C70FBE.C0541628@woodson.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <38C70FBE.C0541628@woodson.com>; from lance@woodson.com on Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 08:43:10PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Lance Woodson [000308 19:14] wrote: > First off, I really appreciate the work that PAO does and I hope this is > not a touchy subject however... > > Why is there PAO? > > Can we integrate their work into FreeBSD and then have them work > directly with the FreeBSD codebase? Are they willing? Is FreeBSD > willing? Would this be feasable? > > Thanks for any insight that might help to appease my soul, > Lance Woodson I'm pretty sure several members of the PAO team have been given commit privledges to the main tree. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 8 19:33:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from berlin.atlantic.net (berlin.atlantic.net [209.208.0.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F66837B720 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 19:33:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bobj@atlantic.net) Received: from mail.atlantic.net (IDENT:root@mail.atlantic.net [209.208.0.71]) by berlin.atlantic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA10579; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 22:36:37 -0500 Received: from bsd.cisi.com (ocalflifanb-as-1-r1-ip-94.atlantic.net [209.208.28.94]) by mail.atlantic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA15642; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 22:33:35 -0500 Received: from nancy.cisi.com (nancy.cisi.com [192.168.0.131]) by bsd.cisi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA57081; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 22:33:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bobj@atlantic.net) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000308223247.009e9430@rio.atlantic.net> X-Sender: bobj@rio.atlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 22:32:47 -0500 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" From: Bob Johnson Subject: Re: Is the PAO install always this hard? Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <23541.952546874@zippy.cdrom.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! For what it's worth, I have installed PAO on my laptop twice, and both times required doing two installs. Once to install FreeBSD, and again to add PAO. I did it last week with 3.4R, and once early last fall, either 3.2R or 3.3R. It doesn't require two complete installs, but you have to get the distributions from two different FTP sites. Since the original PAO instructions I read last year said this is how it was done, I assumed that was how it was still supposed to be working. I did wonder why the PAO stuff couldn't be on the main FreeBSD server so you could pick up the whole thing at once (with less confusion), but I figured it would get ironed out when PAO was integrated with the mainstream release. I think perhaps what is missing right now is either putting a copy of PAO on the main FreeBSD site and its mirrors, or some instructions that clearly say you have to do a regular install first, then go to the PAO site and install the PAO distribution. I vote for adding PAO to the main FreeBSD sites so you can do the install the way the install disk implies it will work. Does my vote count for anything when you're the one that has to do the work? The good news is that the PAO install floppy (from the PAO site) recognizes a wide variety of PCMCIA ethernet cards, so the install process should go pretty smoothly for most people once they know where to get the various pieces from. To summarize, here's what worked for me: 1) go to http://www.jp.FreeBSD.org/PAO/ and get the most appropriate PAO install floppy. 2) Start a "Beginner" installation using a mainstream FreeBSD site as the distribution source. It will give you an error message complaining that it couldn't find the PAO distributions, and offer the chance to try again. 3) Change the distribution source to the PAO ftp site, and let it install the PAO distributions. 4) Complete the installation as usual. Those instructions are for 3.x releases. By the way (completely off topic now) I tried Corel Linux yesterday, and used FreeBSD with the KDE desktop as a workstation for the first time today. FreeBSD/KDE is "ready for prime time". Corel Linux isn't. - Bob +-------------------------------------------------------- | Bob Johnson | bobj@atlantic.net +-------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 8 21:53:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from sauber.net (adsl-209-233-30-232.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [209.233.30.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1270037B62A for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:53:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sauber@sauber.net) Received: from [10.0.0.12] (porter [10.0.0.12]) by sauber.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA35904 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:53:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sauber@sauber.net) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:53:20 -0800 (PST) From: Soren Dossing To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: wi0 problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi - I got a Lucent Wavelan Turbo 11MHz Silver card that I got some problems with. I have FreeBSD 3.3 installed on my laptop, and when configuring wi0 with ifconfig the OS freezes immediately. I get input/output error messages when configuring with wicontrol. So I tried to boot on the revised (as of 2000/03/03) PAO 3.4 floppies and switch to the console on Alt-F4. Here I can configure wi0 with wicontrol and ifconfig. The little green lamp goes on a blinks when I I try to ping around. However I never get ping replies and on the Alt-F2 screen I see wi0: Device timeout errors. I have tried setting the network name to "" and "saubernet", which is the network name I gave to the Apple Airport Base Station that I try to connect to. The APBS is set up to not do nat or dhcp - it just works as a bridge. Everything works fine in ms-windows - and I'm running out of ideas for what else to try to make it work in FreeBSD :-/ Please help. Soren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Mar 9 1:37:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DEC737B6B4 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 01:37:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA13486; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 01:36:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Lance Woodson Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why PAO? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 08 Mar 2000 20:43:10 CST." <38C70FBE.C0541628@woodson.com> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 01:36:07 -0800 Message-ID: <13483.952594567@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Can we integrate their work into FreeBSD and then have them work > directly with the FreeBSD codebase? Are they willing? Is FreeBSD > willing? Would this be feasable? This has already been done in 4.0. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Mar 9 6:36:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E40837B5DA for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 06:36:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (dcs@p10-dn01kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [211.0.245.11]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) with ESMTP id XAA02490; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 23:36:16 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <38C7B68F.3EF214B7@newsguy.com> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 23:34:55 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tom brown Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is the PAO install always this hard? References: <20000308191018.11037.qmail@web115.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org tom brown wrote: > > I'll keep this short and sweet. Yeah, right. > I've been using FreeBSD for 3 years and I would say I > am quite familiar with it. Then... [rant deleted] > I'm sure the technology all works but this is even > worse than trying to get windows to work properly. > > Get your act together!! If you are familiar with it, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING HERE??? Go talk to the PAO people. Coming here to complain about PAO is like complaining about Slackware on a Debian mailing list! -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Mar 9 7:26:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from afs.itc.keio.ac.jp (afs.itc.keio.ac.jp [131.113.212.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2AB4C37B69C for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 07:26:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hosokawa@itc.keio.ac.jp) Received: (qmail 28777 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2000 15:26:25 -0000 Received: from ppp138.dialup.st.keio.ac.jp (HELO ringo.FromTo.Cc) (131.113.27.138) by afs.itc.keio.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Mar 2000 15:26:25 -0000 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:27:07 +0900 Message-ID: <86sny0cgfo.wl@ringo.FromTo.Cc> From: Tatsumi Hosokawa To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com Cc: lance@woodson.com, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why PAO? In-Reply-To: In your message of "Thu, 09 Mar 2000 01:36:07 -0800" <13483.952594567@zippy.cdrom.com> References: <38C70FBE.C0541628@woodson.com> <13483.952594567@zippy.cdrom.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.2.13 (Keep The Faith) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 8) (Bryce Canyon) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At Thu, 09 Mar 2000 01:36:07 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > Can we integrate their work into FreeBSD and then have them work > > directly with the FreeBSD codebase? Are they willing? Is FreeBSD > > willing? Would this be feasable? > > This has already been done in 4.0. I want to add notes about these works to i386/RELNOTES.TXT. I remember that: - boot.flp supports PC-card Ethernet. - GENERIC kernel has PC-card support. - Added SMC91C92 driver (sn) - 3C574TX/OfficeConnect 572 support is added to ep driver. (maybe I missed something important out...), and I want to add famous PC-cards to HARDWARE.TXT of 4.0-RELEASE. Is it possible? -- --------------------------- Tatsumi Hosokawa hosokawa@itc.keio.ac.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Mar 9 8:59:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from madeline.boneyard.lawrence.ks.us (madeline.boneyard.lawrence.ks.us [24.124.26.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590BA37B773 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 08:59:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsd-mobile@boneyard.lawrence.ks.us) Received: from mail (mail [24.124.26.25]) by madeline.boneyard.lawrence.ks.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA38895 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 10:59:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 10:59:32 -0600 (CST) From: "Stephen D. Spencer" To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is the PAO install always made harder than it has to be? In-Reply-To: <38C7B68F.3EF214B7@newsguy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org heh. well, since this has turned into a testimonial thread, i would like to whole-heartedly thank the PAO guys for their hard work and for dilligently putting out english documentation for those of us that are mono-lingual. (in case any of them are subscribed here) I've been running PAO for over a year. Comments: 1. RT'ing the FM is still a good rule of thumb. 2. The PAO/3x install went very smoothly the first time. 3. As I do with the rest of the FreeBSD boxen I build, I purchased hardware around the tools that I use in my work. 4. there are those of us that utilize the fruits of the BSD community and are extremely greatful with what they provide. It is quite irritating when someone who evidently has not taken advantage of the availble docs makes a scene like this. 5. if I can't get something to work immediately, I do not immediately assume that the individuals who created it are idiots. I've learned more about the internals of FreeBSD by taking the time to do my research before asking questions--certainly before making comments as to the quality of the work. 6. Don't bitch, it's free. Show some respect. No one associated with PAO or *BSD owes you anything. Regards, Stephen Spencer Lawrence, KS (successfully running PAO/3.4 with operational sound and apm) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Mar 9 12: 6:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (pau-amma.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6644B37B7DD for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 12:06:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.3) id MAA33612 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 12:06:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhw) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 12:06:33 -0800 (PST) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200003092006.MAA33612@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Touchpad (on NEC Versa 6030X), FreeBSD 4.0-RC (20000307), & XF86 3.3.6 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [I'm hoping this is a reasonably optimal list for the query; redirection cheerfully accpted. dhw] A few days ago, I was the recipient of a colleague's hand-me-down NEC Versa 6030X. He had an older flavor of FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT on it, and a few other things that (he said) were broken in various ways. So yesterday (08 March, 2000), I FTPed the FreeBSD 4.0-RC per Jordan's message announcing same. (Over the weekend, I had tried the -RC from 14 February, with similar results, FWIW.) The X that I'm using was the 3.3.6 for FreeBSD 3.x binaries from ftp.freebsd.org; I have yet to customize the kernel at all, so it's using the GENERIC one. This install was fresh: I newfs'd /, /usr, & /var. Things basically work OK... except that I'm having some trouble with the mouse: except for the action of tapping the touchpad, it only has 2 buttons, and I can't seem to get the "chord" operation to work. The mouse is identified (in dmesg.boot) as: psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model GlidePoint, device ID 0 (I'll copy the full dmesg.boot below my .sig, in case it's of interest or use.) When it came time to configure X, I elected to set up moused first. Once that is done, and I supply the "-3" flag to moused, the (2) buttons work rather as expected with syscons (outside of the X environment): the left button is treated as "button 1", the right button is treated as "button 3", and the combination is treated as "button 2". Using the touchpad causes the mouse to move in the expected ways. However, when I run XF86Setup, select the "Mouse" configuration (to test the buttons), only buttons 1 & 3 are recognized. If I select the "Emulate3Buttons" option at this point (and "apply" the change), X behaves as if button 1 is continuously being cycled: passing over any button-like widget with the mouse causes said widget's state to switch. Further, pressing the left button causes the mouse image's button 1 do go dark, as expected, and pressing both mouse buttons causes the image's button 2 to go dark, but pressing just the right button causes no action that I can see -- there's no apparent way to select button 3. (Over the weekend, when I still had the 14 Feb -RC installed, I observed similar phenomena. I also experimented a little with other flags to moused, such as "-m 1=4", after reading the moused man page's discussion about touchpads and "button 4" events. Those seemed to work pretty much as advertised, though I couldn't find a configuration that felt very comfortable or "natural" -- I've been using normal 3-button mice since about '88 or so, when I got my first Sun 3/60. Perhaps there's something to tweak as far as timing or sensitivity, but if so, I managed to fail to recognize what it was, so clues would be welcomed.) The difference in behavior between using the mouse within and outside of X is a bit perplexing; there's evidently something I'm failing to grasp at work here. Clues, pointers, and/or redirection are all welcomed. /var/run/dmesg.boot copied below my .sig, as promised above. Thanks, david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (888) 347-0197 FAX: (650) 372-5915 Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-20000307-CURRENT #0: Wed Mar 8 00:14:33 GMT 2000 root@monster.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium/P54C (132.96-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping = 12 Features=0x1bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) avail memory = 28815360 (28140K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc03be000. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 chip1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci0: at 2.0 pcic-pci0: at device 3.0 on pci0 pcic-pci1: at device 3.1 on pci0 isa0: on motherboard fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 ata0 at port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 irq 14 on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60-0x6f on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model GlidePoint, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> pcic: management irq 10 pcic0: at port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 irq 10 on isa0 pccard0: on pcic0 pccard1: on pcic0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ppi0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port plip0: on ppbus0 isa_compat: didn't get irq for lnc ad0: 3909MB [7944/16/63] at ata0-master using BIOSPIO Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a pccard: card inserted, slot 0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Mar 9 21:52:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9161C37B935 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 21:52:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA70515 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 22:52:36 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA13968 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 22:52:16 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003100552.WAA13968@harmony.village.org> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/pccard i82365.h pcic.c slot.h To: mobile@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 09 Mar 2000 21:43:29 PST." <200003100543.VAA34381@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200003100543.VAA34381@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 22:52:16 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <200003100543.VAA34381@freefall.freebsd.org> Warner Losh writes: : Add support for PnP ISA cards, and some laptop PnP support: : Tested on: My VAIO and with the Linksys pccard reader. I've run this through the ringer and think that it works. Please test it on your laptops and let me know if there are any new problems in this. Please do so before the weekend if possible... Also, with these changes, I feel confident that we could change the default pcic irq to be none and have it do polling always. Not that I'm going to do that before 4.0. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Mar 9 22:17:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29CCB37B93D for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 22:17:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA70583; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 23:17:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA14101; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 23:17:14 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003100617.XAA14101@harmony.village.org> To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Subject: Re: Is the PAO install always this hard? Cc: tom brown , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 09 Mar 2000 23:34:55 +0900." <38C7B68F.3EF214B7@newsguy.com> References: <38C7B68F.3EF214B7@newsguy.com> <20000308191018.11037.qmail@web115.yahoomail.com> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 23:17:14 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <38C7B68F.3EF214B7@newsguy.com> "Daniel C. Sobral" writes: : If you are familiar with it, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING HERE??? Go talk : to the PAO people. Coming here to complain about PAO is like complaining : about Slackware on a Debian mailing list! Actually, some of the PAO developers read this list. Many of them speak Japanese far better than they speak English, so they don't post here often. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Mar 9 22:20:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FF437B935 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 22:20:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA70599; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 23:20:39 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA14131; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 23:20:19 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003100620.XAA14131@harmony.village.org> To: "Stephen D. Spencer" Subject: Re: Is the PAO install always made harder than it has to be? Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 09 Mar 2000 10:59:32 CST." References: Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 23:20:19 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org For what it is worth, I've done two PAO installs. One on my libretto which was 2.2.something PAO which I then upgraded to -current via make world. I did a similar thing with my VAIO with 3.1 or 3.2 PAO. Both times it just worked for me. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Mar 10 9:57:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from sauber.net (adsl-209-233-30-232.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [209.233.30.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B07037BBAD for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:57:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sauber@sauber.net) Received: from adsl-209-233-30-232.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (adsl-209-233-30-232.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [209.233.30.232]) by sauber.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19036 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:57:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sauber@sauber.net) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:57:33 -0800 (PST) From: Soren Dossing To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wi0 problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, FreeBSD MAIL wrote: > try setting wicontrol -i wi0 -p 3 > this will take the FreeBSD driver out of its default add-hoc mode. Nope - didn't work. Still the same symptoms. Any other suggestions? Any debug command output I can provide to debug this? Soren > > RP > puga@mauibuilt.com > > > Hi - I got a Lucent Wavelan Turbo 11MHz Silver card that I got some > > problems with. > > > > I have FreeBSD 3.3 installed on my laptop, and when configuring wi0 with > > ifconfig the OS freezes immediately. I get input/output error messages > > when configuring with wicontrol. > > > > So I tried to boot on the revised (as of 2000/03/03) PAO 3.4 floppies and > > switch to the console on Alt-F4. Here I can configure wi0 with wicontrol > > and ifconfig. The little green lamp goes on a blinks when I I try to ping > > around. However I never get ping replies and on the Alt-F2 screen I see > > wi0: Device timeout errors. > > > > I have tried setting the network name to "" and "saubernet", which is the > > network name I gave to the Apple Airport Base Station that I try to > > connect to. The APBS is set up to not do nat or dhcp - it just works as a > > bridge. > > > > Everything works fine in ms-windows - and I'm running out of ideas for > > what else to try to make it work in FreeBSD :-/ Please help. > > > > Soren > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Mar 10 16:14: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (pau-amma.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C41837B9BF for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 16:14:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.3) id QAA45467; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 16:14:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhw) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 16:14:00 -0800 (PST) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200003110014.QAA45467@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Touchpad (on NEC Versa 6030X), FreeBSD 4.0-RC (20000307), & XF86 3.3.6 In-Reply-To: <20000310011402.C4877@stat.Duke.EDU> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:14:02 -0500 >From: "Sean O'Connell" [I wrote about the hand-me-down NEC Versa 6030X & the behavior of the touchpad/mouse in FreeBSD 4.0-RC3 -- dhw] Sean suggested that I take a look at the flags for the psm0 device; in particular, the 0x0800 flag (PSM_CONFIG_FORCETAP). After playing around a little bit with both PSM_CONFIG_FORCETAP and PSM_FLAGS_FINGERDOWN (which I had -- erroneously, I now believe -- thought had something to do with a NEC Versa, based merely on noticing the name without examining the way it was used in more detail), I've managed to get a configuration that is almost making sense to me... at least, according to the "mouse" setup portion of XF86Setup. I'm running with a kernel that has PSM_FLAGS_FINGERDOWN (0x0001) on, but not PSM_CONFIG_FORCETAP (0x0800). I have moused running thus: moused -p /dev/psm0 -m 1=4 -m 2=1 with the intent that tapping the touchpad would be interpreted as button 1, the left-hand button would be treated as button 2, and the right-hand button would be treated as button 3. Further, XF86Setup believes that I'm using protocol "SysMouse" and device /dev/sysmouse with a "high" resolution; Emulate3Buttons is not selected. With this configuration, it seems that I can move the mouse around without changing the state of button 1; this is A Good Thing. :-) It seems to take a moderately forceful tap to do that, which is fine. (Perhaps "obviously intentional" would have been a better term than "forceful" -- it doesn't take all that much "force" per se; it does require doing something other than merely gliding the finger on the touchpad.) The problem, however, is that -- according to XF86Setup -- button 1 is normally depressed; tapping the touchpad releases it briefly. (That is, in XF86Setup's "mouse diagram", the left mouse button stays black unless I tap the touchpad, in whcih case it goes white... briefly.) This, of course, is a simple logic reversal of my understanding of the desired behavior. (The other buttons do seem to behave rationally.) So as soon as I have time, I plan to poke around in sys/isa/psm.c to see if I can either see something obviously silly in my configuration, or something I can do to hack the source to make it do something closer to useful for me. (I've tried setting Emulate3Buttons, and then there's no way to change the state of button 3, and the machine acts as if button 1 is continuously changing state. I found neither appealing.) (Yes, I've tried PSM_CONFIG_FORCETAP without PSM_FLAGS_FINGERDOWN, as well as neither flag defined and both flags defined. None of the combinations resulted in the behavior I think I want, as described above.) At least this should be hackable now.... :-} Thanks for your help so far, david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (888) 347-0197 FAX: (650) 372-5915 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Mar 10 22:48:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (pau-amma.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C08037B653 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 22:48:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.3) id WAA46423 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 22:48:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhw) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 22:48:34 -0800 (PST) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200003110648.WAA46423@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Touchpad (on NEC Versa 6030X), FreeBSD 4.0-RC (20000307), & XF86 3.3.6 In-Reply-To: <200003110014.QAA45467@pau-amma.whistle.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 16:14:00 -0800 (PST) >From: David Wolfskill >The problem, however, is that -- according to XF86Setup -- button 1 is >normally depressed; tapping the touchpad releases it briefly. (That is, >in XF86Setup's "mouse diagram", the left mouse button stays black unless >I tap the touchpad, in whcih case it goes white... briefly.) >This, of course, is a simple logic reversal of my understanding of the >desired behavior. (The other buttons do seem to behave rationally.) Well, I started poking around, and I'm getting confused. Perhaps this is better for -hackers (or a therapist). In src/sys/isa/psm.c, around lines 54966-54968, I see: /* `tapping' action */ if (sc->config & PSM_CONFIG_FORCETAP) ms.button |= ((c & MOUSE_PS2_TAP)) ? 0 : MOUSE_BUTTON4DOWN; (There is similar code for the case of the GlidePoint mouse, though it's conditional only on the mouse being of the GlidePoint type, not on the PSM_CONFIG_FORCETAP flag having been specified.) And this confuses me because in the case in question, it appears to generate reults that are reveresed from what I would naively expect... so I think I'm missing something. At that point in the code, c was assigned to the first byte of the response from the mouse, which is: 0x01 for button 1 0x02 for button 2 0x04 for button 3 0x08 for button 4 The constant MOUSE_PS2_TAP is "8" (from /usr/include/machine/mouse.h). I tried enabling some debugging statements so I could see what is happening: if I tap on the touchscreen, "c"" gets a value of 8, so the "(c & MOUSE_PS2_TAP)" conditional is true, thus causing ms.button to be unchanged (|= 0). If some other buttonn is pressed, but I do not tap on the touchscreen, "c" gets "8" (the value of the MOUSE_BUTTON4DOWN constant) ORed in. I even went so far as to re-compile the kernel with the 2nd & 3rd operands of the ?:operator reversed... and XF86Setup seemed much happier with the results.... until I tried to start up the X server (which never happened; it just hung). So since I'm using moused, I thought that perhaps I could see about doing the reversal there. I started by killing off moused, then starting it again: sudo kill `cat /var/run/moused.pid ` && \ sudo moused -m 1=4 -m 2=1 -p /dev/psm0 -t auto -f -d Then for the left-hand mouse, it shows... well, rather more than I want to include. But the critical part is: moused: : 0 0 moused: button 1 count 1 moused: : 0 0 moused: button 2 count 1 (That's from depressing it.) and moused: button 2 count 0 (from releasing it). The same trick with the right-hand button is similar: moused: : 0 0 moused: button 3 count 1 and moused: button 3 count 0 But for the touchpad, I see: moused: button 1 count 0 moused: button 1 count 2 moused: button 1 count 3 ... and the "count" for that button keeps increasing. Curiouser and curiouser, david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (888) 347-0197 FAX: (650) 372-5915 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Mar 11 7:56:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (pau-amma.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA7337BC4F for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 07:56:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.3) id HAA50327; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 07:56:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhw) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 07:56:10 -0800 (PST) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200003111556.HAA50327@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Touchpad (on NEC Versa 6030X), FreeBSD 4.0-RC (20000307), & XF86 3.3.6 In-Reply-To: <200003110014.QAA45467@pau-amma.whistle.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org OK; I have something that actually seems to work (in X, not just XF86Setup). Please note that the psm driver recognized the touchpad as a GlidePoint, so the flag to force recognition as such (PSM_CONFIG_FORCETAP , 0x0800) was not necessary in my case. The current configuration has psm0 defined in the kernel with no flags set. X is set up to use /dev/sysmouse; moused is invoked as: moused -m 1=4 -m 2=1 -p /dev/psm0 -t auto (That is, in rc.conf, I have 'moused_flags="-m 1=4 -m 2=1"'.) But what I did that seemed to make things work -- which puzzles me sorely -- is reverse the sense of the "button 4" recognition in src/sys/isa/psm.c, thus: =================================================================== RCS file: RCS/psm.c,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 psm.c --- psm.c 2000/03/10 22:52:16 1.1 +++ psm.c 2000/03/11 15:09:41 @@ -1820,7 +1820,7 @@ ms.button = butmap[c & MOUSE_PS2_BUTTONS]; /* `tapping' action */ if (sc->config & PSM_CONFIG_FORCETAP) - ms.button |= ((c & MOUSE_PS2_TAP)) ? 0 : MOUSE_BUTTON4DOWN; + ms.button |= (!(c & MOUSE_PS2_TAP)) ? 0 : MOUSE_BUTTON4DOWN; switch (sc->hw.model) { @@ -1902,7 +1902,7 @@ case MOUSE_MODEL_GLIDEPOINT: /* `tapping' action */ - ms.button |= ((c & MOUSE_PS2_TAP)) ? 0 : MOUSE_BUTTON4DOWN; + ms.button |= (!(c & MOUSE_PS2_TAP)) ? 0 : MOUSE_BUTTON4DOWN; break; case MOUSE_MODEL_NETSCROLL: As noted in an earlier message, it seems that the original code does just the opposite of what is wanted. Now, I know there's a *lot* I don't know about PC hardware, and I'm no kernel hacker. Further, I greatly respect the folks who have been contributing to this code base... all of which causes me to be rather skeptical as to my own sanity regarding this. Or maybe the machine I'm using has a bizarre hardware quirk that causes it to behave in the opposite way that the code expects -- I'm not at all sure how to determine this. But I have a working solution for now -- I'm even able to manipulate the "Virtual Desktop" in tvtwm, which is a most welcome change. I'll be happy to work with folks to try to better understand what a proper solution is -- offline. I don't see any purpose to be gained by me continuing to spam this list at the current stage of (my non-)understanding, though I'll be pleased to summarize the results when I have something I can understand. (One possibility, for example, would be to use a flag to invert the sense of the hacked statements above, so that a patch could be committed that would continue to allow other systems to work, while also permitting the machine that I have to work -- assuming, of course, that this isn't a hardware bug in the latter.) Thanks for putting up with my ravings, david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (888) 347-0197 FAX: (650) 372-5915 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Mar 11 8:22:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from peace.mahoroba.org (peace.calm.imasy.or.jp [202.227.26.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5658B37BC7A for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 08:22:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Received: from localhost (IDENT:TVsOjfmHkr30p5YP6/yEOj689jCIvu74tHPaaScCGktZg8i0/8AyeKjlyfXH9IfL@localhost [::1]) by peace.mahoroba.org (8.10.0/3.7W-peace) with ESMTP id e2BGLOo00900; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 01:21:24 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 01:21:24 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200003111621.e2BGLOo00900@peace.mahoroba.org> To: lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone running PAO+KAME? In-Reply-To: <200003082354.e28Nsmq74212@orthanc.ab.ca> References: <200003082354.e28Nsmq74212@orthanc.ab.ca> X-Mailer: xcite1.20> Mew version 1.94.2 on Emacs 20.5 / Mule 4.0 =?iso-2022-jp?B?KBskQjJWMWMbKEIp?= X-PGP-Public-Key: http://www.imasy.org/~ume/publickey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 0C 53 FC 5D D0 37 91 05 D0 B3 EF 36 9B 6A BC X-URL: http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Hajimu UMEMOTO (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCR19LXBsoQiA=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCSCUbKEI=?=) X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 27 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, >>>>> On Wed, 08 Mar 2000 16:54:48 -0700 >>>>> Lyndon Nerenberg said: lyndon> Rre any of you running 3.[34]+PAO+KAME? I'm curious as to whether lyndon> there are collisions in /sys or /usr/include that would prevent a lyndon> kernel build. Yes, I'm using 3.4+PAO3+KAME. I'm maintaining PAO+KAME CVS Repository. This tree is updated about once per day. If you are familiar with CVSup, try: *default host=cvsup.imasy.or.jp *default release=cvs tag=. *default delete use-rel-suffix imasy-pao+kame3 prefix=/usr/src Before compiling, invoke the following in /usr/src/kame: % make TARGET=pao3 prepare -- Hajimu UMEMOTO @ Internet Mutual Aid Society Yokohama, Japan ume@mahoroba.org ume@bisd.hitachi.co.jp ume@jp.FreeBSD.org http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Mar 11 12:41:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B1537BD4C for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 12:41:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA37917; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:41:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <200003112041.PAA37917@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: David Wolfskill Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Image-URL: http://www.transsys.com/louie/images/louie-mail.jpg From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: Touchpad (on NEC Versa 6030X), FreeBSD 4.0-RC (20000307), & XF86 3.3.6 References: <200003111556.HAA50327@pau-amma.whistle.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 11 Mar 2000 07:56:10 PST." <200003111556.HAA50327@pau-amma.whistle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:41:36 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't know for certain in your case, but when I was playing with the ALPS Glidepoint pointing device a few years ago, this all made sense. There wasa bit in the first byte of the mouse message (0x80, I think, but could be wrong), which is "always" set and used to help find the first byte of the multi-byte mouse message. The ALPS touchpad device would set this to zero to indicate the "tap" gesture on the pad. I think this explains why the code is the way it is in the mouse driver. I don't know why your device would behave differently. As you observed, there's a lot of whacko PC hardware that has only a passing similarity to other stuff. Perhaps this is the "added value" your vendor has chosen to give to you :-) louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message