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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 19 18:46:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pmail1.gmx.net (pmail1.gmx.de [194.221.183.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62A3337B89F for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 18:46:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rewted@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 29356 invoked by uid 0); 20 Mar 2000 02:46:20 -0000 Received: from as52-21-47.cas-kit.golden.net (HELO elite) (209.183.132.47) by pmail1.gmx.de with SMTP; 20 Mar 2000 02:46:20 -0000 Message-ID: <009301bf922f$843be820$2f84b7d1@elite> From: "rewted" To: Subject: FAT32 connectivity Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 21:45:33 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can FreeBSD 3.2 - GENERIC RELEASE support mounting FAT32 file systems? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Mar 20 5:36:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from Kitten.mcs.net (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F71B37B8F5; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 05:36:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dmfarb@chiobj.com) Received: from chiobj.com (dmfarb.pr.mcs.net [204.137.234.143]) by Kitten.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA86882; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:36:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dmfarb@chiobj.com) Message-ID: <38D6295A.368EEEFC@chiobj.com> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:36:27 -0600 From: David Farb X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: grog@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Compliments on a good job. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just installed FreeBSD 3.4, with NO problems, the first time out. I have installed Linux (several times), Windows NT, NT Server, 95, 98, ... and I have never had such an easy installation. FreeBSD is up and running on the network, WITH NOT A SINGLE HITCH OR PROBLEM. My compliments to everyone who worked on it. Marvelous system. Thanks David Farb Chicago Object Group To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Mar 20 11:25:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ds9.sci.fi (ds9.sci.fi [195.74.0.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC8937B9B7 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:25:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from juksi@iname.com) Received: from sjukebox (MMMCLXVII.hdyn.saunalahti.fi [195.197.46.167]) by ds9.sci.fi (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA25320; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:24:43 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <009301bf922f$843be820$2f84b7d1@elite> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:24:06 +0200 (EET) From: Jukka Simila To: rewted Subject: RE: FAT32 connectivity Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 20-Mar-00 rewted wrote: > Can FreeBSD 3.2 - GENERIC RELEASE support mounting FAT32 file systems? Yes, I believe so. Note I'm not sure. See "man mount_msdos" or something like. @-`--,--`--- Jukka Simila To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Mar 20 12:10:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.visualedge.com (visualedge.com [207.139.24.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB8C37BA55 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:10:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from martinm@visualedge.com) Received: from martinm (martinm [192.168.0.116]) by mailhost.visualedge.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA06537 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:11:48 -0500 Message-ID: <018f01bf92a8$50efd840$7400a8c0@visualedge.com> From: "DJ Martin MacT" To: "FreeBSD Newbies" References: <009301bf922f$843be820$2f84b7d1@elite> <014601bf9279$19c56c10$7400a8c0@visualedge.com> Subject: Re: FAT32 connectivity Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:10:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org yes make sure you have the option in your kernel (included in default Generic kernel) and then edit you /etc/fstab file accordingly. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rewted" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 12:45 AM > Subject: FAT32 connectivity > > > > Can FreeBSD 3.2 - GENERIC RELEASE support mounting FAT32 file systems? > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Mar 20 16:16:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (maynard.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E9F937B7B2 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:16:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mflan@mindspring.com) Received: from 1439f301dtk.internal.mindspring.com (fw-5-e3.atl2.mindspring.net [207.69.162.92]) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA13379 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 19:16:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <007a01bf92ca$f0e5bbe0$cd6411ac@internal.mindspring.com> From: "Mike" To: Subject: mailing list.. Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 19:18:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0077_01BF92A1.07DEDFE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0077_01BF92A1.07DEDFE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable please put me on the list thanks.. ------=_NextPart_000_0077_01BF92A1.07DEDFE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0077_01BF92A1.07DEDFE0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Mar 20 16:46:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sympatico.ca (Kingston-ppp64637.sympatico.ca [216.208.85.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E38737BA44 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:46:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim.chapman@sympatico.ca) Received: from sympatico.ca (sympatico.ca [127.0.0.1]) by sympatico.ca (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA00357 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 19:47:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jim.chapman@sympatico.ca) Message-Id: <200003210047.TAA00357@sympatico.ca> To: FREEBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: CD Sound Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 19:46:51 -0500 From: Jim Chapman Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I recently installed a SB PCI128 sound card which works fine with Windows. I inserted the device 'pcm0' in my kernel and made the device 'snd1'. When I enter the command 'cdcontrol play' I get sound from the headphone jack but not the speakers. When I boot the card is found OK. Is there something else I need to do? Thanks, Jim Chapman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Mar 20 18: 1:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f12.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E6E1337C092 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 18:01:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ntvsunix@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 42746 invoked by uid 0); 21 Mar 2000 02:01:27 -0000 Message-ID: <20000321020127.42745.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.53.54.44 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 18:01:27 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.53.54.44] From: "Some Person" To: FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Compliments on a good job. Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 18:01:27 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org That's just one reason I 'love' FreeBSD so much - just works! FreeBSD rules! Amen. >I just installed FreeBSD 3.4, with NO problems, the first time out. I >have installed Linux (several times), Windows NT, NT Server, 95, 98, ... >and I have never had such an easy installation. FreeBSD is up and >running on the network, WITH NOT A SINGLE HITCH OR PROBLEM. > >My compliments to everyone who worked on it. Marvelous system. > >Thanks >David Farb >Chicago Object Group > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Mar 20 20:30:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.datacomm.ch (smtp.datacomm.ch [212.40.5.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957AB37B919 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 20:30:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from benlutz@datacomm.ch) Received: from lutz (line387-zuerich.datacomm.ch [212.254.9.167]) by smtp.datacomm.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA03455 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 05:30:32 +0100 From: "Benjamin Lutz" To: Subject: remote login as root / su-able user Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 05:29:56 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've been following the recent discussion about that guy wanting to remote login as root. I understand that allowing this possibility is not very clever, at least if the machine is accessible via the internet or any other larger (public) network. So if you wanna do some maintenance remotely, you su to root. But now, where's the difference? A malicious hacker could just get the password for a user and then su to root with that user account? Where's the difference? Or am I missing something obvious? Have a lot of fun, Ben To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Mar 20 20:40:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.datacomm.ch (smtp.datacomm.ch [212.40.5.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9305F37BA03 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 20:40:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from benlutz@datacomm.ch) Received: from lutz (line387-zuerich.datacomm.ch [212.254.9.167]) by smtp.datacomm.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA03868 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 05:40:05 +0100 From: "Benjamin Lutz" To: Subject: remote login as root / su-able user Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 05:39:29 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've been following the recent discussion about that guy wanting to remote login as root. I understand that allowing this possibility is not very clever, at least if the machine is accessible via the internet or any other larger (public) network. So if you wanna do some maintenance remotely, you su to root. But now, where's the difference? A malicious hacker could just get the password for a user and then su to root with that user account? Where's the difference? Or am I missing something obvious? Have a lot of fun, Ben To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Mar 20 23:23:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F9637B852 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:23:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA63128; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:23:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <38D72373.1A135AC@gorean.org> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:23:31 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0316 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Benjamin Lutz Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: remote login as root / su-able user References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FYI, freebsd-foo@ and foo@ are always the same list. No need to post to both. Benjamin Lutz wrote: > > I've been following the recent discussion about that guy wanting to remote > login as root. I understand that allowing this possibility is not very > clever, at least if the machine is accessible via the internet or any other > larger (public) network. So if you wanna do some maintenance remotely, you > su to root. > But now, where's the difference? 2 passwords, vs. 1. -- "While the future's there for anyone to change, still you know it seems, it would be easier sometimes to change the past" - Jackson Browne, "Fountain of Sorrow" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Mar 21 4:29:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.tor.primus.ca (mail1.tor.primus.ca [216.254.136.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A13D37B62B for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:29:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lalala@iprimus.ca) Received: from dialin92.montreal.globalserve.net ([209.167.12.92] helo=martyc) by mail1.tor.primus.ca with smtp (Exim 2.11 #1) id 12XNml-0002Xl-05 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 07:29:24 -0500 Message-ID: <000701bf9330$8b480750$01a8a8c0@martyc> From: "Martin M" To: "Newbies FreeBSD" References: <20000321020127.42745.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Compliments on a good job. Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 07:25:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ditto. 1) Install it 2) Re-compile it 3) Never think of configuration issues again (unless, of course, you have a cheap ethernet hub...). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Some Person" To: Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 9:01 PM Subject: Re: Compliments on a good job. > That's just one reason I 'love' FreeBSD so much - just works! > > FreeBSD rules! > > Amen. > > > >I just installed FreeBSD 3.4, with NO problems, the first time out. I > >have installed Linux (several times), Windows NT, NT Server, 95, 98, ... > >and I have never had such an easy installation. FreeBSD is up and > >running on the network, WITH NOT A SINGLE HITCH OR PROBLEM. > > > >My compliments to everyone who worked on it. Marvelous system. > > > >Thanks > >David Farb > >Chicago Object Group > > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Mar 21 6:48:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sentry.granch.ru (sentry.granch.ru [212.20.5.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA74037B604; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 06:48:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shelton@sentry.granch.ru) Received: (from shelton@localhost) by sentry.granch.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA14396; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:48:22 +0600 (NOVT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:48:21 +0600 (NOVT) Organization: Granch Ltd. From: "Rashid N. Achilov" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-emulators@freebsd.org Subject: Linux /proc Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If I can mount Linux procfs in /compat/linux/proc? What shall I do for made it? (I have some Linux program, which need /proc/net for work...) -- With Best Regards. Rashid N. Achilov (RNA1-RIPE), Cert. ID: 28514, Granch Ltd. lead engineer e-mail: achilov@granch.ru, tel (383-2) 24-2363 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Mar 21 9:29: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mimesweep1.telecom.ie (mail1.telecom.ie [159.134.141.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CD2537B91C for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:29:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from edonnelly@eircom.ie) Received: from smtpgate.telecom.ie (unverified) by mimesweep1.telecom.ie (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.2) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:38:18 +0000 Received: from ccMail by smtpgate.telecom.ie (IMA Internet Exchange 3.13) id 000F92C7; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:34:59 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:34:26 +0000 Message-ID: <000F92C7.C21218@eircom.ie> From: edonnelly@eircom.ie (Ed Donnelly) Subject: basic questions To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I purchased the walnut creek freebsd book and it came with 4 cds. I installed from the first cd and everything went smoothly, I can get kde up and my graphics are good however I have a few queries. I just want to get netscape up and running and get online with my isp and then I take my time and learn more about freebsd. I have a 56k v90 pci modem, how do I know which port it is on? Once it is using the correct port do I just need to edit the /etc/ppp/ppp.conf file? Netscape is in a port, I tried to do a make on it but it tried to connect to an ftp site and stopped. What's the easiest way to get netscape up and running, surely I have everything I need on 4 cds. Thanks in advance, Ed. **************************************************************** The information transmitted in this email is intended for the addressee only and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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This message has been swept by Anti-Virus software **************************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Mar 21 9:47: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9F737BC83 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:46:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mlduke@concentric.net) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi.concentric.net [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id MAA04319; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:46:54 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from ts003d36.mer-id.concentric.net (ts003d36.mer-id.concentric.net [206.173.184.144]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id MAA10594; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:46:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:44:20 -0700 (MST) From: mlduke To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Writable CD ROM Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone know where to find the data on making a writable CD ROM work? (Verily hoping this is a "proper" question on newbies). ML Duke To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Mar 21 10:10:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from yana.lemis.com (yana.lemis.com [192.109.197.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD7C37BC56; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:10:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com) Received: from mojave.worldwide.lemis.com ([216.88.157.130]) by yana.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA14239; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:40:19 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by mojave.worldwide.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA00631; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:26:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:26:21 -0800 From: Greg Lehey To: David Farb Cc: FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, Jordan Hubbard Subject: Re: Compliments on a good job. Message-ID: <20000320212621.D522@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com> Reply-To: Greg Lehey References: <38D6295A.368EEEFC@chiobj.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <38D6295A.368EEEFC@chiobj.com>; from dmfarb@chiobj.com on Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 07:36:27AM -0600 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday, 20 March 2000 at 7:36:27 -0600, David Farb wrote: > I just installed FreeBSD 3.4, with NO problems, the first time out. I > have installed Linux (several times), Windows NT, NT Server, 95, 98, ... > and I have never had such an easy installation. FreeBSD is up and > running on the network, WITH NOT A SINGLE HITCH OR PROBLEM. > > My compliments to everyone who worked on it. Marvelous system. Thanks for copying me on this message. You should know, however, that I didn't have much to do with the release. The real man behind the scenes is Jordan Hubbard, who does the impossible about once every three months. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Mar 21 11:20:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from calvin.hannover.sgh-net.de (calvin.hannover.sgh-net.de [212.86.129.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F309837BC4E for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:20:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from puma@hannover.sgh-net.de) Received: from go.hannover.sgh-net.de [::ffff:212.86.129.147] by calvin.hannover.sgh-net.de with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #5) id 12XUCK-0006lj-00; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:20:12 +0000 Received: from home (pppa56.hannover.sgh-net.de [193.218.208.56]) by go.hannover.sgh-net.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA17889 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:20:03 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000321202021.00992b10@pop3.hannover.sgh-net.de> X-Sender: puma@pop3.hannover.sgh-net.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:20:21 +0000 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: Alfred Breull Subject: Help, please. In-Reply-To: <20000321020127.42745.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I own an IBM Thinkpad Aptiva with a 400 P2 and 64 MB ram. There is 1.1 MB free space on which I'd like to install FreeBSD 3.4, version Jan 2000. I tried to install from CD. Everything went fine (suggested kernel), incl. the (A) auto selection of directory sizes when, after the last 'ok', I received the following error message: 1. unable to make device node for /dev/x in /dev! 2. couldn't make filesytem properly. aborted. I understand that I can't install FreeBSD on my computer. But, being a newbie, I don't undertsand the meaning of the message. Could someone explain, please ? Alf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Mar 21 11:21:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86C437B881; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:21:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14270; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:21:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Greg Lehey Cc: David Farb , FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, Jordan Hubbard Subject: Re: Compliments on a good job. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:26:21 PST." <20000320212621.D522@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:21:26 -0800 Message-ID: <14267.953666486@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks to everyone for the kind words. It's refreshingly good to hear from people who *aren't* having problems occasionally. :) - Jordan > On Monday, 20 March 2000 at 7:36:27 -0600, David Farb wrote: > > I just installed FreeBSD 3.4, with NO problems, the first time out. I > > have installed Linux (several times), Windows NT, NT Server, 95, 98, ... > > and I have never had such an easy installation. FreeBSD is up and > > running on the network, WITH NOT A SINGLE HITCH OR PROBLEM. > > > > My compliments to everyone who worked on it. Marvelous system. > > Thanks for copying me on this message. You should know, however, that > I didn't have much to do with the release. The real man behind the > scenes is Jordan Hubbard, who does the impossible about once every > three months. > > Greg > -- > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Mar 21 12:29:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from baygull.rtd.com (baygull.rtd.com [198.102.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB9137C19F for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:25:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from angussf@geoapps.rtd.com) Received: from geoapps.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by baygull.rtd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id UAA87829 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:32:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from angussf@geoapps.rtd.com) Received: by geoapps.com (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Tue, 21 Mar 00 13:20:43 MST for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Angus Scott-Fleming" X-Organization: GeoApps To: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:20:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: remote login as root / su-able user Reply-To: angussf@geoapps.com Message-ID: <38D77737.374.5803632@localhost> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 21 Mar 2000, at 5:29, Benjamin Lutz wrote: > I've been following the recent discussion about that guy wanting to remote > login as root. I understand that allowing this possibility is not very > clever, at least if the machine is accessible via the internet or any other > larger (public) network. So if you wanna do some maintenance remotely, you > su to root. > But now, where's the difference? A malicious hacker could just get the > password for a user and then su to root with that user account? Where's the > difference? Or am I missing something obvious? Although it's partly security, it's mostly for accountability. If lots of folks have the root password and log in as root, who mangled the system? OTOH, if you log in as Benjamin and su to root, I can track who you are & what changes you make on the log ... and if you lose your privileges at the company & I disable your login, it makes it harder for you to break back in. --------------------------------------------------------- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApplications, Tucson, Arizona angussf@geoapps.com 1-520-323-9170 / fax 1-208-248-3124 --------------------------------------------------------- Proud user of Pegasus Mail, PM-Burst and Waffle --------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Mar 21 23: 1:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from 001.co.jp (ej1.001.co.jp [210.146.252.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A712D37C0E9; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:01:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mic@001.co.jp) Received: from ej1.001.co.jp.001.co.jp ([192.168.100.33]) by 001.co.jp (8.8.8/3.6W:Mon Mar 16 22:26:19 JST 1998) with SMTP id OAA13838; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 14:52:33 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <002601bf93c5$3abbf4a0$2164a8c0@ej1.001.co.jp.001.co.jp> From: "=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCJTAlbCE8JUglOCVjITwlSyE8GyhC?=" To: Subject: =?iso-2022-jp?B?IBskQiUwJWwhPCVIJTglYyVLITwbKEIgTkVXUyAbJEIhShsoQnZvbC4x?= =?iso-2022-jp?B?ORskQiFLGyhCIDAzMjIxMDA5?= Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:09:12 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org $B!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=!=(B $BFMA3$N%a!<%k$9$k$3$H$r$*5v$72<$5$$!#(B $B8fLBOG$N$+$+$C$F$7$^$C$?J}!"$3$N%a!<%k$,ITMW$JJ}$XFO$$$F(B $B$7$^$C$F$$$^$7$?$i?<$/$*OM$S?=$7>e$2$^$9!#(B $B8fMF&IJ$N$40FFb$G$9!#(B $BEv&IJ"!!~(B--- http://www.001.co.jp/mic/gj/beach/supuringkyanpen3.html $B-!(B $BF|K\9R6uMxMQ!A%"%8%"$NN9!A!!(B $B!J9a9A!&%7%s%,%]!<%k!&%^%l!<%7%"!&%?%$!&%U%#%j%T%s!&%;%V(B $B!&%P%j!&%Y%H%J%`!&4Z(B $B9q!K(B $B-"(B $B%b%k%G%#%V%D%"!<(B $B#37nCf$K$4M=Ls$rD:$$$?J}$K$O!"0lN'!o#5!"#0#0#0$N%G%#%9%+(B $B%&%s%H!*!*(B $B-#(B $B%S%s%?%sEg!u%7%s%,%]!<%k#5F|4V(B $B!A:#$A$g$C$H$7$?%V!<%`$K$J$C$F$^$9!A(B $B$*Ld$$9g$o$;$r?4$h$j$*BT$A?=$7>e$2$F$*$j$^$9!#(B $B3t<02q; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 08:40:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from martinm@visualedge.com) Received: from martinm (martinm [192.168.0.116]) by mailhost.visualedge.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA24981; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 11:42:39 -0500 Message-ID: <032001bf941d$4ae49500$7400a8c0@visualedge.com> From: "Martin MacT" To: "FreeBSD Newbies" , "Ed Donnelly" References: <000F92C7.C21218@eircom.ie> Subject: Re: basic questions Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 11:40:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org netscape should be on your CDs.... put CD#1 in your CDROM and run /stand/sysisntall. go to Configuration then Packages... Find it in under WWW. You also need to install linux compatibility to install netscape_4.7_linux.... If you don't want to that, use one of the other CDs... (#3?) to find the FreeBSD version (in which case you have to install FreeBSD2.2 compatibility since it is an a.out binary) or use Version 3 of netscape and you won't need any special compatibility. you can also just find the appropriate .tgz file and run pkg_add on it. As for configuring PPP, if you have KDE, why not just use Kppp to do your configuration? Your modem is likely com2 and if not com1 if it is internal (if you have a serial mouse it is almost defintely com2)... Kppp refers to these as something like ttys0 & ttys1 or something (I have no idea, but ???0 is com1, ???1 is com2). You can also make things easier (I think) if you make a symlink from /dev/modem to the appropriate /dev entry. I could, of course, be wrong. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Donnelly" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 11:34 AM Subject: basic questions > > Hello, > > I purchased the walnut creek freebsd book and it came with 4 cds. > I installed from the first cd and everything went smoothly, I can get > kde up and my graphics are good however I have a few queries. I just > want to get netscape up and running and get online with my isp and > then I take my time and learn more about freebsd. > I have a 56k v90 pci modem, how do I know which port it is on? Once it > is using the correct port do I just need to edit the /etc/ppp/ppp.conf > file? > Netscape is in a port, I tried to do a make on it but it tried to > connect to an ftp site and stopped. What's the easiest way to get > netscape up and running, surely I have everything I need on 4 cds. > > Thanks in advance, > Ed. > > > **************************************************************** > The information transmitted in this email is intended for the > addressee only and may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. Any review, retransmission,dissemination,reliance > upon or other use of, this information by persons or entities > other than the addressee is prohibited.If you received this > in error, please contact the sender and delete the material. > > This message has been swept by Anti-Virus software > **************************************************************** > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Mar 22 10: 3:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A0937BF3A; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:03:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p146.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.146]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA53112; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:03:06 +0100 Received: from localhost (uzs106@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA00410; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:28:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:28:17 +0100 (CET) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@moritz.alleswirdgelber To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Greg Lehey , David Farb , FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, Jordan Hubbard Subject: Re: Compliments on a good job. In-Reply-To: <14267.953666486@zippy.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Thanks to everyone for the kind words. It's refreshingly good to hear > from people who *aren't* having problems occasionally. :) I have thought about a FAQ what works "out of the box", packages etc. It was incredible to see, for exemple, how Macintoshes Postscript is supported, with ghostscript, by all kind of programs, gimp etc, without any problem, out of the box !! Hacking sendmail.cf was difficult, the sources, for dynamic IP. Procmail, the .forward file, but the rest.... The userbase....happy hunting ! Heiko @3.1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 23 3:15:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from vihta.saunalahti.fi (posti.saunalahti.fi [195.74.0.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16CC437B838 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 03:15:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from juksi@iname.com) Received: from sjukebox (MCCXLVII.rdyn.saunalahti.fi [195.197.137.47]) by vihta.saunalahti.fi (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA02147; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:08:26 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <14267.953666486@zippy.cdrom.com> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:15:02 +0200 (EET) From: Jukka Simila To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: Compliments on a good job. Cc: FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, David Farb , Greg Lehey Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 21-Mar-00 Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Thanks to everyone for the kind words. It's refreshingly good to hear > from people who *aren't* having problems occasionally. :) > > - Jordan You should think it as if everyone that uses FreeBSD but never asks a question in the mailing lists has made it to work without problems. I don't know how many people uses FreeBSD (does anybody?) but just subtract the traffic of mailing lists of the approximately amount of FBSD users and voila, you have the number of perfectly happy users :) (In fact, you don't have to subtract that and you still get the amount of happy users:) FWIW: I started using FBSD when it was at 2.2.5, now I'm using 3.4. I made my big brother also use FreeBSD, but since they used Linux at his school, he switched to that. I've never seen such big problems with FreeBSD that he had with linux: It took 3 months to get his soundcard working, and his login prompt still acts very weird. Well, not exactly my problem, I've told him that I can help him if he switches to FreeBSD, so I would know the environment, but... At the beginning my friend, who used (and uses) FreeBSD, recommended that I should try Linux first, as I never had had any experience with any unix-like systems. I'm very happy I didn't listen to him, but instead I installed FreeBSD straight away. @-`--,--`--- Jukka Simila To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 23 4:36: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BBDD37B840 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 04:36:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p227.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.227]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA39316; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:35:19 +0100 Received: from localhost (uzs106@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA00571; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:03:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:03:34 +0100 (CET) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@moritz.alleswirdgelber To: Jukka Simila Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, David Farb , Greg Lehey Subject: Re: Compliments on a good job. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > systems. I'm very happy I didn't listen to him, but instead I installed FreeBSD > straight away. Thats the way I did it too ;-) Well, those were the days when only Gurus used it... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 23 10:24:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A5737BD8B for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:24:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.69.47]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA4DF1; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:24:57 -0800 Message-ID: <38DA60EB.F9D65AB0@acuson.com> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:22:35 -0800 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jukka Simila Cc: FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Compliments on a good job. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jukka Simila wrote: > FWIW: I started using FBSD when it was at 2.2.5, now I'm using 3.4. I made my > big brother also use FreeBSD, but since they used Linux at his school, he > switched to that. I've never seen such big problems with FreeBSD that he had > with linux: It took 3 months to get his soundcard working, and his login prompt > still acts very weird. Well, not exactly my problem, I've told him that I > can help him if he switches to FreeBSD, so I would know the environment, but... I wonder if his problems aren't so much Linux as they are some crappy distribution. All too many of them decide that the "classic" linux isn't good enough, so they do stuff their own way. I include RedHat, Suse and Debian in the aforementioned distros. I stumbled upon Slackware and it's nearly perfect. Small, compact. All it needs is a ports like package management, and it would be completely perfect! Of course, it is penultimate only to FreeBSD... David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 23 13: 3:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ds9.sci.fi (ds9.sci.fi [195.74.0.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40FF037BA8D for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:03:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from juksi@iname.com) Received: from sjukebox (MMMCMXVI.hdyn.saunalahti.fi [195.197.165.16]) by ds9.sci.fi (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA00170; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:03:18 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <38DA60EB.F9D65AB0@acuson.com> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:02:44 +0200 (EET) From: Jukka Simila To: David Johnson Subject: Re: Compliments on a good job. Cc: FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 23-Mar-00 David Johnson wrote: > Jukka Simila wrote: > >> FWIW: I started using FBSD when it was at 2.2.5, now I'm using 3.4. I made >> my >> big brother also use FreeBSD, but since they used Linux at his school, he >> switched to that. I've never seen such big problems with FreeBSD that he had >> with linux: It took 3 months to get his soundcard working, and his login >> prompt still acts very weird. Well, not exactly my problem, I've told him >> that I can help him if he switches to FreeBSD, so I would know the >> environment, but... > > I wonder if his problems aren't so much Linux as they are some crappy > distribution. All too many of them decide that the "classic" linux isn't > good enough, so they do stuff their own way. I include RedHat, Suse and > Debian in the aforementioned distros. I believe it's about a crappy distribution. However, they call it linux, so I call it linux. It's their problem (or those' who make the good distributions:) @-`--,--`--- Jukka Simila To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 24 17:30:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE5637B5D8 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 17:30:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA50616 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 12:30:10 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 12:30:10 +1100 (EST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200003250130.MAA50616@phoenix.welearn.com.au> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. 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