From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Apr 30 17: 7:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from oracle.clara.net (oracle.clara.net [195.8.69.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E9437B70F; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 17:07:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from merlin@rhydywaun.fsnet.co.uk) Received: from [195.8.76.134] (helo=du-019-0134.claranet.co.uk) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 12m3kK-000MAs-00; Mon, 1 May 2000 01:07:33 +0100 From: Darren Wyn Rees To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Upgrading FreeBSD 3.3 (& IP Masquerading) Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 08:44:18 +0100 Organization: A470 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've installed a copy of FreeBSD3.3 which came with the Walnut Creek/ Lehey "Complete FreeBSD" book. Now, I'd like to install an up-to-date FreeBSD and use it in one box on a LAN as a server. I'd like this machine to be the only machine connected to the 'outside'/Internet, but enable other local machines to connect via the FreeBSD box. Some questions I'd like to ask you : * Can I buy the Cheapbytes FreeBSD 4.0 CD, & upgrade with this ? How do I do that... Do I install using the FreeBSD3.3 disks, and then upgrade various packages from the 4.0 disk ? * I'm confused by the terminology... From the linux world, the HOWTOs I've read use the term "IP Masquerading", but I don't find that with FreeBSD... I find terms such as "IP aliasing". Is this just a synonym, or is there something more radically different betwixt the two ? Thanks. -- Le biblioteche ci hanno dato il potere, poi il lavoro č venuto e ci ha reso liberi. Che prezzo ora, per un piccolo assaggio di dignitŕ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Apr 30 19:41:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com [24.6.21.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD97D37B9A9 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 19:41:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from conrads@cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA10872; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:41:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:41:38 -0500 (CDT) Organization: @Home Network From: Conrad Sabatier To: Heiko Recktenwald Subject: What "bad magic" really means (Re: RealPlayer 7) Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, Jukka Simila Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 26-Apr-00 Heiko Recktenwald wrote: > Can anybody tell me what the "bad magic number" message means ? Does it > means, it is a linux binary and wants linux netscape ? Or is it just not > properly installed ? Hmm... > > Voila: > > ERROR: bad magic number in "/usr/local/lib/netscape/plugins/rpnp.so" > Cant load plugin /usr/local/lib/netscape/plugins/rpnp.so. Ignored. The "bad magic number" error, in this case, simply means that FreeBSD tried to run a Linux file as if it were a FreeBSD file. This will, of course, fail spectacularly. :-) RealPlayer, being as it is a Linux app, needs a little tweaking after installing to get it to work under FreeBSD's Linux emulation. In the directory where you installed RealPlayer, look for any files that have executable permissions set, and do the following on each of them: brandelf -t Linux filename That should cure the problem (assuming that you have Linux emulation enabled, and the linux-base package installed). -- Conrad Sabatier http://members.home.net/conrads/ ICQ# 1147270 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 1 5:17:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from radius.city-guide.com (radius.cityisp.net [216.2.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6211337B7F5; Mon, 1 May 2000 05:17:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lynch@cityisp.net) Received: from cityisp.net (dialup2.cityisp.net [216.5.38.20]) by radius.city-guide.com (Vircom SMTPRS 4.2.181) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 1 May 2000 08:27:20 -0400 Message-ID: <390D7691.47AA332@cityisp.net> Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 08:20:33 -0400 From: chris X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: the Old sound question, References: <200004142038.SM00060@pop.mlg.globalinfo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I've had this working before, on my old HD. it has worked since 2.2.8 (if memory servers me)- 3.1. my Old HD failed so I got another and put 3.3 on it. My problem is my system will not play mp3's now. I don't want to buy opensounds drivers just to play an mp3 (when my CD player -ascd - works fine). I have , don't laugh, a vibra16 SB , those big old ISA's. now, from my kernel, I've configured it ( the only way could get it) as: controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 10 drq 3 device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 7 device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x388 ***** the midi is configured incorrectly, but, I'm not too concerned, since I hate midi. if it's a problem, please point it out :-) ****** I did the usual > cd /dev sh MAKEDEV /dev/snd0 > cat /dev/sndstat VoxWare Sound Driver:3.5-alpha15-970902 (Wed Aug 6 22:58:35 PDT 1997 Amancio Hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Config options: Installed drivers: Type 2: SoundBlaster Type 6: SoundBlaster16 Type 7: SB16 MIDI Card config: SoundBlaster at 0x220 irq 10 drq 3 SoundBlaster16 at 0xffffffff irq 1 drq 7 (SB16 MIDI at 0x388 irq 1) Audio devices: 0: SoundBlaster 16 4.13 Synth devices: Midi devices: Timers: 0: System clock Mixers: 0: SoundBlaster I also remember doing in /dev , sh MAKEDEV /dev/snd0 once before and somehow my system lost it ( I think it may be due to power problems, but, it's worth mentioning ,just in case). oh yeah, and if at anytime, any one of new folks ever doubt you can get a job anywhere with FreeBSD knowledge, don't despair. I kinda fell into one last week. I get to run Nameservers for a NT based Broadband Entertainment company that has over 800,000 unique hits a day (or two). Thank God I've stuck with FreeBSD for the last few years. I've played with the various Linux dists and have to honestly say that none of them come close to the logical structure that FreeBSD provides. rc. whatever1-3, run level this! sorry, i've had to change my sleep schedule and woke up way too early thanks, Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 1 5:29:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com [24.6.21.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0094237B54F; Mon, 1 May 2000 05:29:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from conrads@cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA80185; Mon, 1 May 2000 07:29:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <390D7691.47AA332@cityisp.net> Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 07:29:32 -0500 (CDT) Organization: @Home Network From: Conrad Sabatier To: chris Subject: RE: the Old sound question, Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 01-May-00 chris wrote: > controller snd0 > > device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 10 drq 3 > device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 7 > device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x388 Excuse me, but 0x388 is normally used for the OPL3 type FM synth, not the MIDI device. If you really want MIDI (that is, the MIDI *port*), try 0x300 or 0x330. If it's the FM synth you want, then use: device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 Also, are you *sure* your IRQ/DRQ settings are correct, and that there are no conflicts with other devices? Is your card a Plug-and-Play device? Do you also need "controller pnp0"? Does it need boottime initialization via the "pnp" commands? -- Conrad Sabatier http://members.home.net/conrads/ ICQ# 1147270 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 1 5:47:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from desh.cse.iitd.ernet.in (mailer.cse.iitd.ac.in [202.141.68.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E91537BA93 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 05:47:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rakhesh_sasi@bigfoot.com) Received: from cse.iitd.ernet.in (root@poorvi.cse.iitd.ernet.in [10.20.3.12]) by desh.cse.iitd.ernet.in (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA31529 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 18:19:31 +0530 Received: from localhost (csu96154@localhost) by cse.iitd.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA12635 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 18:19:39 +0530 X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: csu96154 owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 18:19:39 +0530 (IST) From: Rakhesh Sasidharan X-Sender: csu96154@localhost.localdomain To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Help ! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there, For some reason I am unable to get all the mails that are sent to this list. It's been happening for quite some time - I first thought maybe things were down there, but then I sent a test mail and you seem to have recd it. Could anybody help ? Please reply to my address directly. Regards, Rakhesh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 1 20:55:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.goamerica.net (falcon.goamerica.net [206.138.237.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405A437B745 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 20:55:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mattanderson2000@goamerica.net) Received: by falcon.goamerica.net (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id XAA27109; Mon, 1 May 2000 23:52:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 23:52:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200005020352.XAA27109@falcon.goamerica.net> From: Matt Anderson To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Cc: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Go.Mail 1.0 Subject: Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello everyone, I've got linux experience but I have not touched a BSD based Unix in years. I have an HP Deskjet 812c. What is the best way to set it up? Thanks! Matt Anderson matt_anderson@writeme.com matt.anderson@aecinc.com mattanderson2000@goamerica.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 1 22:34:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from desh.cse.iitd.ernet.in (mailer.cse.iitd.ac.in [202.141.68.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B247637B72A for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 22:34:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rakhesh_sasi@bigfoot.com) Received: from cse.iitd.ernet.in (root@poorvi.cse.iitd.ernet.in [10.20.3.12]) by desh.cse.iitd.ernet.in (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA01164; Tue, 2 May 2000 11:06:20 +0530 Received: from localhost (csu96154@localhost) by cse.iitd.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27037; Tue, 2 May 2000 11:06:31 +0530 X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: csu96154 owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 11:06:31 +0530 (IST) From: Rakhesh Sasidharan X-Sender: csu96154@localhost.localdomain To: Kevin McCarty Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help ! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Kevin, I don't get what you mean. I have also subscribed to the OpenBSD mailing list, and that seems to be working fine. Moreover, I did get FBSD mails earlier - it was only recently that they stopped. Any suggestions. Rakhesh On Mon, 1 May 2000, Kevin McCarty wrote: > > Hi Rakesh, had the same problem and it was due to the amount of news that > was actually allowed to the college, we have a partial news feed. > > Talk to your system administrator. > have a good day > kevin > > > > > > On Mon, 1 May 2000, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: > > > > > Hi there, > > > > For some reason I am unable to get all the mails that are sent to this > > list. It's been happening for quite some time - I first thought maybe > > things were down there, but then I sent a test mail and you seem to have > > recd it. Could anybody help ? Please reply to my address directly. > > > > Regards, > > Rakhesh > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > ********************************************************************** > > Kevin McCarty > Networking > Postmaster > Adjunct: Workstation Architecture > > The Sage Colleges > 518 244 2491 > > mccark@sage.edu > 2A > ********************************************************************** > > The present is the only thing of which a person can be deprived. > - Marcus Aurelius > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 1 23:29:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f296.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 051BA37B5FE for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 23:29:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ntvsunix@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 44880 invoked by uid 0); 2 May 2000 06:29:35 -0000 Message-ID: <20000502062935.44879.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.53.54.44 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 01 May 2000 23:29:35 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.53.54.44] From: "Some Person" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading FreeBSD 3.3 (& IP Masquerading) = NAT Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 23:29:35 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org IP Masq. is just a Linux term, non-industry standard term. IP Masq. = NAT (Network Address Translation), ie, which would be a form of circuit level proxy'ing, but not application level proxy'ing. NAT Works at the network layer. ie, converting internal RFC1918 based IP addresses to public internet address, via NAT Routing. I've ran both NAT routing in various situations, Ethernet Bridging, bridged firewall environments, and NAT inclusion based firewall topologies. Various ways you can go about it, but I've personally found FreeBSD and OpenBSD to serve these purposes much better than Linux in many many ways. Just the beauty of BSD! But, it all depends on what you want to do because bridging might be better, or NAT routing... Besides, not to trash Linux or anything, but if you did go Linux, which distro would you go for? That's another hard descision, just too many for my personal liking and becoming too commercialized in my opinion, such as RH (barf), the next M$ of the UN*X world. You can definatly buy from cheapbytes, but why support them? I don't believe they give anything back to the FreeBSD. Buying from WC would atleast goes to a good cause and helps improve, support and advocate FreeBSD in a Linux centric world (unfortunatly). I can't really trash Linux as I've used it before until I discovered FreeBSD/OpenBSD, now I can't see a reason I would want to go back, or even a need to. I think more people need to hear about FreeBSD as something that's NOT Linux. Each of course has it's advantages and disadvanatges, Linux being the later of course.. LOL! Just kidding! ;) Look into natd, and/or IPFilter try them out, read, research and compare > >I've installed a copy of FreeBSD3.3 which came with the Walnut Creek/ >Lehey "Complete FreeBSD" book. Now, I'd like to install an up-to-date >FreeBSD and use it in one box on a LAN as a server. I'd like this >machine to be the only machine connected to the 'outside'/Internet, >but enable other local machines to connect via the FreeBSD box. > >Some questions I'd like to ask you : > >* Can I buy the Cheapbytes FreeBSD 4.0 CD, & upgrade with this ? >How do I do that... Do I install using the FreeBSD3.3 disks, and >then upgrade various packages from the 4.0 disk ? > >* I'm confused by the terminology... From the linux world, >the HOWTOs I've read use the term "IP Masquerading", but I don't find >that with FreeBSD... I find terms such as "IP aliasing". Is this just >a synonym, or is there something more radically different betwixt the >two ? > >Thanks. > >-- >Le biblioteche ci hanno dato il potere, >poi il lavoro č venuto e ci ha reso liberi. >Che prezzo ora, per un piccolo assaggio di dignitŕ... > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 1 23:39:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f281.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F02E337B5FE for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 23:39:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ntvsunix@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 48415 invoked by uid 0); 2 May 2000 06:39:25 -0000 Message-ID: <20000502063925.48414.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.53.54.44 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 01 May 2000 23:39:25 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.53.54.44] From: "Some Person" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 23:39:25 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I *think* but don't quote me on this, apsfilter might have support for your printer. Make sure you update your /usr/ports or atleast /usr/ports/print (optional, as you can manually download the latest version). I've got mine running like a charm, color and everything! Setup on samba, and all. apsfilter is really really awesome!!! >Hello everyone, >I've got linux experience but I have not touched a BSD based Unix in years. >I have an HP Deskjet 812c. >What is the best way to set it up? > >Thanks! > >Matt Anderson >matt_anderson@writeme.com >matt.anderson@aecinc.com >mattanderson2000@goamerica.net > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 1 23:43:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mta2.snfc21.pbi.net (mta2.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5CA37BA2B; Mon, 1 May 2000 23:43:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from q3OY@earthlink.net) Received: from earthlink.net ([207.215.186.168]) by mta2.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0FTX009LG6MS0H@mta2.snfc21.pbi.net>; Mon, 1 May 2000 23:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (user50@localhost) by ibis.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA27118 for ; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 21:11:50 -0800 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 13:06:34 -0800 From: The Digital Yearbook <4pE1@earthlink.net> Subject: Hello High School Alumni X-Sender: 2os0@earthlink.net To: Ji6U@aol.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear High School Alumni, This email is to inform you of a new website that allows you to stay in touch with your high school friends. www.tdyalumni.com Wouldn't it be great to surprise an old friend with an email. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 1 23:46:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f42.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E176437BABB for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 23:46:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ntvsunix@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 90219 invoked by uid 0); 2 May 2000 06:45:19 -0000 Message-ID: <20000502064519.90218.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.53.54.44 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 01 May 2000 23:45:19 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.53.54.44] From: "Some Person" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Unreal Tournament Server on FreeBSD... Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 23:45:19 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Weird question, but I'm not asking for help on how to set it up as I've already found the info on that. I was just wondering, what type of system would be required (hardware wise) to run a dedicated UT server? Nothing else, other than UT serving. It would be on an ADSL line, maybe 10 users? P166MMX 64/96 Meg RAM. X is completly optional for me (unless it's need for UT server, not sure yet) and I wouldn't even run anything really other than UT server on it. If so, would it be slow and/or what would be better, 3.4-stable or 4.0-stable for this? Any comments, opinions or advise would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue May 2 0:16: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from dastor.albury.net.au (dastor.albury.NET.AU [203.15.244.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 596E437BA2B; Tue, 2 May 2000 00:15:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicks@dastor.albury.net.au) Received: (from nicks@localhost) by dastor.albury.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA63379; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:14:58 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from nicks) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 17:14:57 +1000 From: Nick Slager To: Some Person Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Unreal Tournament Server on FreeBSD... Message-ID: <20000502171457.A62687@albury.net.au> Mail-Followup-To: Some Person , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000502064519.90218.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000502064519.90218.qmail@hotmail.com>; from ntvsunix@hotmail.com on Mon, May 01, 2000 at 11:45:19PM -0700 X-Homer: Whoohooooooo! Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake Some Person (ntvsunix@hotmail.com): > Weird question, but I'm not asking for help on how to set it up as I've > already found the info on that. I was just wondering, what type of system > would be required (hardware wise) to run a dedicated UT server? Nothing > else, other than UT serving. > > It would be on an ADSL line, maybe 10 users? P166MMX 64/96 Meg RAM. X is > completly optional for me (unless it's need for UT server, not sure yet) and > I wouldn't even run anything really other than UT server on it. > We found UT to be roughly comparable to the dedicated Quake III server running under linux emulation. I used to run the Q3A server, X, enlightenment and 10 or so xterms on my notebook: Celeron 366, 64Mb RAM. With 7 or 8 people playing on the server, and me doing other work, load averages were consistently around 0.6-0.7. It did start to groan slightly when I fired up Netscape, but Netscape's big and a memory hog. Try that on micros~1 :-) > If so, would it be slow and/or what would be better, 3.4-stable or > 4.0-stable for this? > Our live Q3A/UT server runs 3.4-stable, and we haven't had any issues. No production experience with 4.0 and UT. Regards, Nick. -- From a Sun Microsystems bug report (#4102680): "Workaround: don't pound on the mouse like a wild monkey." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue May 2 4:59:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nottingham.ac.uk (jess.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk [128.243.40.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF7237B57C for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 04:59:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from psyrawt@nottingham.ac.uk) Received: from pcd3479.nottingham.ac.uk ([128.243.93.162] helo=dreadnaught) by nottingham.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #2) id 12mbKz-000745-00 for newbies@freebsd.org; Tue, 02 May 2000 12:59:37 +0100 From: "Andrew Tulloch" To: Subject: RE: Unreal Tournament Server on FreeBSD... Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 12:58:15 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-reply-to: <20000502064519.90218.qmail@hotmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a dedicated UT server running on 3.4-stable with 128meg and a PIII-500. Run at about 15% CPU usage with a 16 player game (about 3 or humans rest bots) if thats any help :) Andrew > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Some Person > Sent: 02 May 2000 07:45 > To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Unreal Tournament Server on FreeBSD... > > > Weird question, but I'm not asking for help on how to set it up as I've > already found the info on that. I was just wondering, what type of system > would be required (hardware wise) to run a dedicated UT server? Nothing > else, other than UT serving. > > It would be on an ADSL line, maybe 10 users? P166MMX 64/96 Meg RAM. X is > completly optional for me (unless it's need for UT server, not > sure yet) and > I wouldn't even run anything really other than UT server on it. > > If so, would it be slow and/or what would be better, 3.4-stable or > 4.0-stable for this? > > Any comments, opinions or advise would be greatly appreciated! > > Thanks! > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue May 2 17:54:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f99.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C559637BD0B for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:54:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmd526@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 53038 invoked by uid 0); 3 May 2000 00:54:38 -0000 Message-ID: <20000503005438.53037.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.220.228.2 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 02 May 2000 17:54:38 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.220.228.2] From: "John Daniels" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Fwd: GET OUT THE VOTE! Please support Java port to *BSD Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 20:54:38 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi: Since last week when the message below and other messages began to circulate, approximately 230 votes have been cast for the java port to *BSD. This has raised our total count to 3182, an increase of 7.75%. Additionally, it is heartening to read the comments left by those who have voted which clearly demonstrate the depth of loyalty that *BSD users have for their platform of choice. Greg Lewis, who heads the FreeBSD-java porting effort has released the first "alpha" patchset for FreeBSD, the seventh in a series of patchsets representing months of work by many *BSD-ers. These volunteers have made a tremendous effort that is sure to enhance the *BSD plaform whether Sun comes around to an "official" port or not. The best way to say "Thanks" is to 1) help with testing, 2) VOTE! FYI: I am not a part of the java porting team, just a user who would like to use a native port and support the *BSD platform. John Last week, John Daniels wrote: >Hi: > >In November 1999 a request for enhancement (RFE) was opened at Sun's >Java Developer's Connection titled: Port jdk 1.2.x to FreeBSD (bug >id: 4288745). > >Members of the Java Developer's Connection help prioritize bug fixes >and RFE's by voting for the one's that they believe are needed most. >The FreeBSD port RFE currently is the #1 request by far with 2953 >votes vs. 819 for the #2 request. > >Even with this wide lead, Sun has no obligation to make an official >port of Java to FreeBSD or *BSD, or to be helpful to the *BSD efforts >to port Java (see www.freebsd.org/java). The larger the number of >votes for our RFE, however, the more difficult it is for Sun to >ignore. And the more that we can widen the lead between our #1 RFE >and #2, the more dramatic a statement we (collectively) make. > >An official Java JDK port to FreeBSD would likely mean that all BSD'swould >benefit either by being able to use the FreeBSD port or by >being much closer to a port of their own. In fact, many who have >voted for the RFE have left comments supporting a port to *BSD, not >just FreeBSD. > >As you may know, Sun recently teamed with Inprise to create an >official port of Java to Linux (building on the work of Blackdown). >The *BSD's, with a large and loyal base of developers, also deserve >an official native version of Java. > >Please support the Java on *BSD effort by voting for the RFE at: >http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4288745.html If you >are not already a member of Sun's Java Developers Connection, >you will need to register before voting (membership is free). > >Your support is greatly appreciated. Thank you. > >John > >PS Please forward this message to any person, list, or organization >that may want to support this effort. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed May 3 3:41:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2965A37BB29 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 03:41:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p192.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.192]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28888; Wed, 3 May 2000 12:40:09 +0200 Received: from localhost (uzs106@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA01120; Wed, 3 May 2000 12:34:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 12:34:59 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@moritz.alleswirdgelber To: conrads@home.com Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What_bad_magic_really_means_ Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Conrad, I got your mail on another computer in another town, so now: > > ERROR: bad magic number in "/usr/local/lib/netscape/plugins/rpnp.so" > > Cant load plugin /usr/local/lib/netscape/plugins/rpnp.so. Ignored. > > The "bad magic number" error, in this case, simply means that FreeBSD > tried to run a Linux file as if it were a FreeBSD file. This will, of > course, fail spectacularly. :-) > > RealPlayer, being as it is a Linux app, needs a little tweaking after > installing to get it to work under FreeBSD's Linux emulation. > > In the directory where you installed RealPlayer, look for any files that > have executable permissions set, and do the following on each of them: > > brandelf -t Linux filename > > That should cure the problem (assuming that you have Linux emulation > enabled, and the linux-base package installed). This means, that I could run this "plugin" also with the nativ netscape (4.08) which works much better (helas, it works) than the linux-netscape 4.7 ? I am not shure if this plugin is needed anyway, what it is good for, if I couldnt run realplayer with some tweeking of the netscape preferences. Best wishes from Bonn. 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------=_NextPart_000_0354_01BFB542.2C136200-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed May 3 23:20:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from webmail.ieg.com.br (www.ieg.com.br [200.188.64.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD3137BFB9 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 23:20:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eksffa@fatectq.com.br) Received: from 200.210.2.51 (ppp51.fatectq.com.br [200.210.2.51] (may be forged)) by webmail.ieg.com.br (8.9.3-IEG-0.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA21032 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 03:18:46 -0300 From: eksffa@fatectq.com.br Message-Id: <200005040618.DAA21032@webmail.ieg.com.br> Reply-To: "::Patrick Tracanelli::" To: Cc: Subject: ISO Image of fbsd 3.4-Stable Date: 04 May 2000 03:25:23 -0300 X-Mailer: NeoPlanet Version: 5.1.0.1465 X-ID: F0B08220216511D4B61A8C2104C10000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Please... i wonder about iso images of FreeBSD 3.4 or 3.3 Stable for downloading :) FreeBSD 4 iso images are also welcome :) my BSD CD got... how would i say... hmmm 'oxyded'? ehehe guess not... :/ ahh oxidou! ehehe pronto, vai em portuga mému ]:D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu May 4 1:30:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C73937B723 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 01:30:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p195.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.195]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA89090; Thu, 4 May 2000 10:29:00 +0200 Received: from localhost (uzs106@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA00418; Thu, 4 May 2000 09:45:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 09:45:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@moritz.alleswirdgelber To: Paul.Newman@pgen.com Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What_bad_magic_really_means_ In-Reply-To: <802568D4.003BA767.00@WESTD90.pgen.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks and sorry ;-) Where can I get this tarball ? I am only used to the packages. And then "make" and "make install" ? I have some simple local websites in my lan, and the linux-netscape 4.7 wants to have a connection to the nameserver, before opening with the local page......hosts before bind is ok, even in the linux /etc, maybe I should learn more about this linux configuration directory, how the linux_base package works. Is there some documentation anywhere about this ? Heiko On Wed, 3 May 2000 Paul.Newman@pgen.com wrote: > > > Just on the subject of Netscape 4.72 working poorly, I have found since 2 May > that the latest nightly builds of Mozilla are working really well (except for > ftp through a proxy). _Much_ better than M15 or Netscape 6-pre or even than last > week's nightly builds. I mean _much_ better. So give it a try. > > Paul > > > > > > uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de on 03/05/2000 11:34:59 > > To: conrads@home.com > cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: What_bad_magic_really_means_ > > > > > Hi Conrad, I got your mail on another computer in another town, so now: > > > > ERROR: bad magic number in "/usr/local/lib/netscape/plugins/rpnp.so" > > > Cant load plugin /usr/local/lib/netscape/plugins/rpnp.so. Ignored. > > > > The "bad magic number" error, in this case, simply means that FreeBSD > > tried to run a Linux file as if it were a FreeBSD file. This will, of > > course, fail spectacularly. :-) > > > > RealPlayer, being as it is a Linux app, needs a little tweaking after > > installing to get it to work under FreeBSD's Linux emulation. > > > > In the directory where you installed RealPlayer, look for any files that > > have executable permissions set, and do the following on each of them: > > > > brandelf -t Linux filename > > > > That should cure the problem (assuming that you have Linux emulation > > enabled, and the linux-base package installed). > > This means, that I could run this "plugin" also with the nativ netscape > (4.08) which works much better (helas, it works) than the linux-netscape > 4.7 ? > > I am not shure if this plugin is needed anyway, what it is good for, if I > couldnt run realplayer with some tweeking of the netscape preferences. > > Best wishes from Bonn. > > Heiko > > I wouldnt ask those stupid "realplayer" questions if it werent a way to > learn, discuss some general interesting newbie stuff ;-) > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > > ________________________ Disclaimer Notice ____________________________ > This E-mail message is private and confidential and should only be read > by those to whom it is addressed. > > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination, distribution, copying, reproduction, modification or > publication of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please delete > the message from your computer and destroy any copies. > > This message is not intended to be relied upon by any person without > subsequent written confirmation of its contents. 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------=_NextPart_000_0049_01BFB623.8B53D1A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu May 4 10:40:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ns.mtelecom.ru (host3.mtelecom.ru [212.44.147.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065AA37B61C for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 10:40:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from s@gw2.mtelecom.ru) Received: from gw2.mtelecom.ru (gw2.mtelecom.ru [192.168.3.2]) by ns.mtelecom.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA10016 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 21:40:11 +0400 (MSD) Received: from localhost (s@localhost) by gw2.mtelecom.ru (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA09770 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 21:40:12 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 21:40:11 +0400 (MSD) From: Vsevolod Semenov X-Sender: s@gw2 Reply-To: seva@mtelecom.ru To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: /etc/[s]pwd.db Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Why access/creating /etc/[s]pwd.db so slow? Much more slower then plain text files /etc/master.passwd /etc/passwd! I think i need out any *db stuff from getpwent.c in libc library and pw util. Seva. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu May 4 13:19:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f262.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 562CB37C1E6 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 13:19:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phrack_@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 17105 invoked by uid 0); 4 May 2000 20:19:43 -0000 Message-ID: <20000504201943.17104.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.191.207.226 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 04 May 2000 13:19:43 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.191.207.226] From: "phrack_ p h r a c k" To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Is it just me or has anyone else had problems w/ kingston ethernet pci 10/100... Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 20:19:43 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is it just me or has anyone else had problems w/ kingston etherrx pci 10/100 cards? NE2000pci drivers dunt work and uhm neither does anything else, have gone thru the whole list and none work, there are multiple cards i've tried and it still cannot detect it anywhere, have specified the i/o and irq and still doesn't find it. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu May 4 13:54:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from gargoyle.apana.org.au (brisba6.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.66.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE6037C24E for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 13:54:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by gargoyle.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA07504; Fri, 5 May 2000 06:54:20 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from roadrunner.apana.org.au(203.3.126.132), claiming to be "ROADRUNNER" via SMTP by gargoyle.apana.org.au, id smtpdov7489; Fri May 5 06:54:01 2000 Message-ID: <00c601bfb60b$3d2bf650$847e03cb@ROADRUNNER> From: "Doug Young" To: "phrack_ p h r a c k" Cc: References: <20000504201943.17104.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Is it just me or has anyone else had problems w/ kingston ethernet pci 10/100... Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 06:53:50 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Is it just me or has anyone else had problems w/ kingston etherrx pci 10/100 > cards? NE2000pci drivers dunt work and uhm neither does anything else, have > gone thru the whole list and none work, there are multiple cards i've tried > and it still cannot detect it anywhere, have specified the i/o and irq and > still doesn't find it. Been there done that :) ..... now I make a point of using only network cards that work every time, like SMC or Intel > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu May 4 15:45:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail3.aracnet.com (mail3.aracnet.com [216.99.193.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1395E37C28D for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 15:45:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hamellr@aracnet.com) Received: from shell1.aracnet.com (shell1.aracnet.com [216.99.193.21]) by mail3.aracnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28770; Thu, 4 May 2000 15:44:58 -0700 Received: by shell1.aracnet.com (8.9.3) id PAA16251; Thu, 4 May 2000 15:45:15 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 15:45:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Hamell To: Doug Young Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is it just me or has anyone else had problems w/ kingston ethernet pci 10/100... In-Reply-To: <00c601bfb60b$3d2bf650$847e03cb@ROADRUNNER> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Been there done that :) ..... now I make a point of using only network cards > that work every time, like SMC or Intel Interesting... I have the exact same feeling about SMC and Intel and only use Kingstons.... Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu May 4 17:10:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2977037B592 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 17:10:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mlduke@concentric.net) Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id UAA06487; Thu, 4 May 2000 20:10:37 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from ts004d21.mer-id.concentric.net (ts004d21.mer-id.concentric.net [206.173.184.177]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id UAA10025; Thu, 4 May 2000 20:10:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 16:08:06 -0600 (MDT) From: mlduke To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: One For the Books Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm running 3.2 which is my third version (I think, maybe four). X has always worked. Never failed once after finally getting through XF86Config. Today, it up and quit, refuses to start and nothing, repeat _nothing_ has been changed by this sole user/admin since yesterday. I mean, it was running when I shut it down (orderly like) and we went to bed. The error message starts by declaring itself "XFree86 Version 3.3.3.1 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, Revision 0, vendor release 6300) Release Date: December 29 1998" and ends with: "Config Error: /etc/XF86Config:2823 Read the section entitled 'ANTI-SPAM CONFIGURATION CONTROL'.. Example section name expected X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)" The "anti spam" section of /etc/XF86Config refers to files not found on this machine. Any clues? 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri May 5 10:51:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sintec.sintec.ro (sintec.sintec.ro [193.226.125.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D8337B879 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 10:51:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from KoronkaS@interscope.ro) Received: from uranus.interscope.ro (b_telemach.sintec.ro [193.226.125.34]) by sintec.sintec.ro (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA15640; Fri, 5 May 2000 20:56:06 +0300 Received: by URANUS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 5 May 2000 20:47:46 +0300 Message-ID: From: Stefan KORONKA To: "'::Patrick Tracanelli::'" , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: RE: ISO Image of fbsd 3.4-Stable Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 20:47:39 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You should check on www.freebsd.org . Anyway, here it is:=20 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org:21/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/ (3.4 and 4.0 available) Stefan . -----Original Message----- . From: eksffa@fatectq.com.br [mailto:eksffa@fatectq.com.br] . Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 9:25 AM . To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org . Subject: ISO Image of fbsd 3.4-Stable .=20 .=20 . =20 . Hello . Please... i wonder about iso images of FreeBSD 3.4 or 3.3=20 . Stable for downloading :) .=20 . FreeBSD 4 iso images are also welcome :) .=20 . my BSD CD got... how would i say... hmmm 'oxyded'? ehehe . guess not... :/ .=20 . ahh oxidou! ehehe pronto, vai em portuga m=E9mu ]:D .=20 .=20 .=20 .=20 .=20 . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org . with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message .=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri May 5 19:30:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91E337B74E for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 19:30:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA74619 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 6 May 2000 12:30:09 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 12:30:09 +1000 (EST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200005060230.MAA74619@phoenix.welearn.com.au> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat May 6 3:55: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE1D37B890 for ; Sat, 6 May 2000 03:55:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA47101; Sat, 6 May 2000 11:51:09 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 11:51:08 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Imre Oolberg Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: tarred new handbook Message-ID: <20000506115108.A46973@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200003250130.MAA50616@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from oolberg@eenet.ee on Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 05:02:54PM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 05:02:54PM +0200, Imre Oolberg wrote: > it seems that tarrballs of the FreeBSD handbook are all from the last > august. Does anyone care to package the HTML version into one file. > I believe the HTML version pertains to the 4.0 version updates, rights? Now fixed. Take a look at ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/, and the subdirectories there. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message