From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 24 8: 9:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.screaming.net (smtp.screaming.net [212.49.224.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5112D37B43C for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 08:09:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lexx.my.domain (dyn244-ras43.screaming.net [212.188.138.244]) by smtp.screaming.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA04705 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 15:12:45 GMT From: John Murphy To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Beyond SMTP Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 16:09:13 +0100 Organization: The Organisation Reply-To: bigotfo@bigfoot.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.6/32.525 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm asking here because I need to know what I need, and there's no great urgency. Also, please CC me because I'm not able to subscribe at = present. Here in the uk, one has to shop around and change ISP frequently to get cheap, or un-metered dial-up access. Data speed is usually quite good, but services usually poor. It's often possible to retrieve e-mail from a previous 'provider' but relaying is denied for outgoing SMTP. I may gain access to a connection, but no services, temporarily for free. So what I realty need is, I presume, an SMTP server on my Gateway, or = will sendmail perform this task somehow. I fear there are large gaps in my knowledge in this area. Links to any tutorial pages would help. I looked at Zmailer, but feel it would get bored with so little to do. This is a one man LAN. :) Also, I'll need a free to use DNS lookup IP number or two. = Recommendations? Thank you, John. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 24 9:54: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3B737B422 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 09:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p135.dialin.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.135]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA48058; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 18:51:07 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00685; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 17:43:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 17:43:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@moritz.alleswirdgelber To: John Murphy Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Beyond SMTP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Very real problems, glad you raised them ! The SMTP thing is solved by the famous "SMTP after POP" hack, you have first to authentificate yourself, with POP, and then can use a related SMTP server. This is the base of all the "free" e-mail services like www.gmx.de. The times they are changing... DNS could be negotiated via PPP, but I have no idea. H. On Sun, 24 Sep 2000, John Murphy wrote: > I'm asking here because I need to know what I need, and there's no great > urgency. Also, please CC me because I'm not able to subscribe at present. > > Here in the uk, one has to shop around and change ISP frequently to get > cheap, or un-metered dial-up access. Data speed is usually quite good, > but services usually poor. It's often possible to retrieve e-mail from > a previous 'provider' but relaying is denied for outgoing SMTP. > > I may gain access to a connection, but no services, temporarily for free. > > So what I realty need is, I presume, an SMTP server on my Gateway, or will > sendmail perform this task somehow. I fear there are large gaps in my > knowledge in this area. Links to any tutorial pages would help. > > I looked at Zmailer, but feel it would get bored with so little to do. > This is a one man LAN. :) > > Also, I'll need a free to use DNS lookup IP number or two. Recommendations? > > Thank you, > John. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 24 10:27:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from heorot.1nova.com (sub24-23.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.24.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8C237B424 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 10:27:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A29ED328C; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 09:51:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878C5328B; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 09:51:11 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 09:51:11 +0000 (GMT) From: Rick Hamell To: John Murphy Cc: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beyond SMTP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please ask questions in -questions, that is what is for. :) They are willing to answer any questions at all, even those we perceive as newbish questions. Newbies is for finding the good resources, general chatting about newbie related issues, and telling people about your latest success. You might want to check out these links also: www.freebsddiary.org www.mostgraveconcern.com And for Sendmail www.sendmail.org (They also have mailing lists that could help you with this problem too.) Rick On Sun, 24 Sep 2000, John Murphy wrote: > I'm asking here because I need to know what I need, and there's no great > urgency. Also, please CC me because I'm not able to subscribe at present. > > Here in the uk, one has to shop around and change ISP frequently to get > cheap, or un-metered dial-up access. Data speed is usually quite good, > but services usually poor. It's often possible to retrieve e-mail from > a previous 'provider' but relaying is denied for outgoing SMTP. > > I may gain access to a connection, but no services, temporarily for free. > > So what I realty need is, I presume, an SMTP server on my Gateway, or will > sendmail perform this task somehow. I fear there are large gaps in my > knowledge in this area. Links to any tutorial pages would help. > > I looked at Zmailer, but feel it would get bored with so little to do. > This is a one man LAN. :) > > Also, I'll need a free to use DNS lookup IP number or two. Recommendations? > > Thank you, > John. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Sep 25 1:19:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1194B37B43C for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 01:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA60909 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 12:30:17 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 12:30:17 +1000 (EST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200009230230.MAA60909@phoenix.welearn.com.au> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Sep 26 7:34:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f293.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92E437B422 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 07:34:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 07:34:11 -0700 Received: from 216.61.67.101 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:34:11 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.61.67.101] From: "§mÅ¢k HéÅd" To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FBSD have known issues w/ pcmcia devices??? Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:34:11 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Sep 2000 14:34:11.0659 (UTC) FILETIME=[D62C01B0:01C027C6] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone know if FBSD 4.0 has any known issues w/ pcmcia modems? i have a Daicom 56k data/fax pcmcia card, that i have successfully used w/ linux, mainly slackware, debian, and suse... anyone know where i could maybe read up on this a bit? or maybe have the same problem... i use kde as my window manager... and kppp detects the modem when i query it... and when i go to connect it says initializing modem, modem ready, then when it's supposed to say dialing #, it doesn't it just sticks w/ modem ready... Any help is greatly appreciated. ~rAh~ _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Sep 26 18:54: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.screaming.net (smtp.screaming.net [212.49.224.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACC937B422 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lexx.my.domain (dyn122-ras40.screaming.net [212.188.135.122]) by smtp.screaming.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA21040 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:57:06 GMT From: John Murphy To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: test Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 02:53:33 +0100 Organization: The Organisation Reply-To: bigotfo@bigfoot.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org SOZ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Sep 26 20: 8: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtppop2.gte.net (smtppop2pub.gte.net [206.46.170.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E2637B423; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 20:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gte.net (evrtwa1-ar4-144-246.dsl.gtei.net [4.34.144.246]) by smtppop2.gte.net with ESMTP ; id WAA30319009 Tue, 26 Sep 2000 22:06:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from res03db2@localhost) by gte.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01026; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 20:07:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from res03db2@gte.net) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 20:07:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Clark Message-Id: <200009270307.UAA01026@gte.net> To: jswarner@uswest.net, tlambert@primenet.com Subject: Re: Just Imagine.. Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200009212124.OAA17535@usr08.primenet.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry, I spent a few minutes with a co-worker the other day, and she proceeded to tell me a story about how the sparc design (out of Berkeley) competed with the MIPS design (out of Stanford) for a while. Being the lore-meister you are, have you any pointers to reading material of this sort? Thanks, [R,C] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Sep 26 22:36:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.unpar.ac.id (star-3.unpar.ac.id [203.109.5.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E544937B424 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 22:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from student2000.unpar.ac.id (root@student2000 [203.109.5.11]) by mx1.unpar.ac.id (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01425 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:58:45 +0700 (JAVT) X-UNPAR-MX1-From: winston@student2000.unpar.ac.id X-UNPAR-MX1-To: Received: from localhost (winston@localhost) by student2000.unpar.ac.id (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA31049 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:40:05 +0700 (JAVT) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:40:05 +0700 (JAVT) From: Winston To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: unsubscribe Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Sep 26 22:38: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.unpar.ac.id (star-3.unpar.ac.id [203.109.5.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B1737B422 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 22:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from student2000.unpar.ac.id (root@student2000 [203.109.5.11]) by mx1.unpar.ac.id (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01435 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:00:32 +0700 (JAVT) X-UNPAR-MX1-From: winston@student2000.unpar.ac.id X-UNPAR-MX1-To: Received: from localhost (winston@localhost) by student2000.unpar.ac.id (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA31095 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:41:54 +0700 (JAVT) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:41:54 +0700 (JAVT) From: Winston To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: unsubscribe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ups sorry .... wrong add :P To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Sep 27 20:58:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from homer.softweyr.com (bsdconspiracy.net [208.187.122.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6D037B424; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 20:58:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=softweyr.com ident=Fools trust ident!) by homer.softweyr.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13eUzm-0000PS-00; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:08:30 -0600 Message-ID: <39D2C43E.1242845B@softweyr.com> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:08:30 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Clark Cc: jswarner@uswest.net, tlambert@primenet.com, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Just Imagine.. References: <200009270307.UAA01026@gte.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Robert Clark wrote: > > Terry, > I spent a few minutes with a co-worker the other day, > and she proceeded to tell me a story about how the sparc > design (out of Berkeley) competed with the MIPS design (out > of Stanford) for a while. > Being the lore-meister you are, have you any pointers > to reading material of this sort? "Computer Architecture : A Quantitative Approach" by Hennessy and Patterson? They were the designers of the SPARC and MIPS architectures. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Sep 28 7:31:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from exodus.ait.co.za (exodus.ait.co.za [196.36.149.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C68A37B424 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 07:31:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pm3ctn [196.36.149.4] by exodus.ait.co.za (SMTPD32-4.06) id A4B41D5013A; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:31:00 +0200 Message-ID: <021e01c02959$555d9b40$0200a8c0@ait.co.za> Reply-To: "Peter Salvage" From: "Peter Salvage" To: Subject: cron assistance please Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:35:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all Could someone please assist me with the following? I want to cycle the mailog of exim every day, just after midnight, after first emailing it to someone. Using man 5 crontab, I saw various examples of how to set that up, and there's a script in /usr/exim/bin called exicyclog that will take care of that side of things. Where I am hopelessly confused, is how do I er...well...call cron to tell it to execute the script??? TIA /wiZZ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Sep 28 7:56: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sunburst.csfi.com (sunburst.csfi.com [204.1.38.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C6937B422 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 07:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yongdell (pc-yong.csfi.com [204.1.38.26]) by sunburst.csfi.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id KAA26459; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:55:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Yong Lim" To: "Peter Salvage" , Subject: RE: cron assistance please Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:58:59 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <021e01c02959$555d9b40$0200a8c0@ait.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You are in luck Peter. Go to this page: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/bsd/2000/09/27/FreeBSD_Basics.html at http://www.oreillynet.com/bsd/ Ms. Dru is a pretty prolific writer. You should check out her other FreeBSD basics. Yong -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Peter Salvage Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 10:35 AM To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cron assistance please Hi all Could someone please assist me with the following? I want to cycle the mailog of exim every day, just after midnight, after first emailing it to someone. Using man 5 crontab, I saw various examples of how to set that up, and there's a script in /usr/exim/bin called exicyclog that will take care of that side of things. Where I am hopelessly confused, is how do I er...well...call cron to tell it to execute the script??? TIA /wiZZ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Sep 28 8:27:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from exodus.ait.co.za (exodus.ait.co.za [196.36.149.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 12BDE37B6C9 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pm3ctn [196.36.149.4] by exodus.ait.co.za (SMTPD32-4.06) id A17D1F5013A; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:25:33 +0200 Message-ID: <025601c02960$f49e7b00$0200a8c0@ait.co.za> Reply-To: "Peter Salvage" From: "Peter Salvage" To: References: <021e01c02959$555d9b40$0200a8c0@ait.co.za> <39D3592A.1989A758@kfunigraz.ac.at> Subject: Re: cron assistance please Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:29:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Use the "crontab" command (man 1 crontab) to edit a user-specific > crontab or add your script to the /etc/crontab file (= root crontab > - see man 8 cron for details). hmmm I think I see what to do...I create a file in /var/cron/tabs called "exim" (that's what Exim runs under) containing just this line: 1 0 * * * /usr/exim/bin/exicyclog ...which should call the relevant exim utility. 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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Sep 28 15:29:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from jxmls04.se.mediaone.net (jxmls04.se.mediaone.net [24.129.0.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30FB937B422; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from r8v0y2 (dtq-74-190.jacksonville.net [24.129.74.190]) by jxmls04 (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA13611; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 19:50:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 19:50:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200009252350.TAA13611@jxmls04> X-Sender: bentley3@pop.jacksonville.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: bentley Subject: general query Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org this goes to newbies / questions becuase i've had trouble posting to questions does sawmill represent a comparable (i htink i pslleed it right) window / desktop manager? also... has anyone noticed that under FreeBSD 4.1 RELEASE that like, an 8 gig partition fills up REALLY REALLY fast, when in M$ Winblows...it doesn't NEARLY AT ALL take up 1/4 that space. i downloaded the 2.2-stable, 3.0 & 4.0 stables....but can't finish them allbecuase it says its out of room! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Sep 28 17:10:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from heorot.1nova.com (sub24-23.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.24.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C7C37B422 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:10:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 690C6328D; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 16:34:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF86328C; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 16:34:39 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 16:34:39 +0000 (GMT) From: Rick Hamell To: Peter Salvage Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cron assistance please In-Reply-To: <021e01c02959$555d9b40$0200a8c0@ait.co.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please ask questions in -questions... -newbies is not the place to do so. You'll get more answers, and they'll be more accurate. Rick On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Peter Salvage wrote: > Hi all > > Could someone please assist me with the following? > > I want to cycle the mailog of exim every day, just after midnight, after > first emailing it to someone. > > Using man 5 crontab, I saw various examples of how to set that up, and > there's a script in /usr/exim/bin called exicyclog that will take care of > that side of things. > > Where I am hopelessly confused, is how do I er...well...call cron to tell it > to execute the script??? > > TIA > /wiZZ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Sep 28 20:41:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f36.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B48EC37B424 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 20:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 20:41:41 -0700 Received: from 207.71.192.252 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 03:41:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [207.71.192.252] From: "Jason La" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Duel Boot Question Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 20:41:41 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Sep 2000 03:41:41.0723 (UTC) FILETIME=[2E3B1AB0:01C029C7] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How would I go about setting up my hard drive to dual boot FreeBSD 4.0 and Windows? I have tried using parition magic, but I lost everything when I tried that. Any help is appreciated. -- Jason La jasonla@pobox.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Sep 29 4:37:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from malawi.net (mx2.malawi.net [208.148.169.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170C337B50B for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 04:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chief ([208.148.168.142]) by malawi.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e8TBShD01254 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:28:46 +0200 (CAT) Message-ID: <000c01c026e4$25e15fe0$8ea894d0@galaxy> Reply-To: "Kondie" From: "Kondie" To: Subject: Disk usage Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:31:24 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hie all, I don't excatly know if this is the correct group to post to , but I am a newbie and I need some asistance. How do you check disk space in FreeBSD? Like in Win9x you just right-click the drive and select Properties - shows you total, used and free and space. I would like to know how to check disk usage because I believe one my "partitions" has filled up but I don't know how to verify. Regards, Kondie. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Sep 29 4:53:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from relay.perceval.net (relay.perceval.net [194.183.224.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C00437B505 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 04:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jupiter.perceval.be (jupiter.perceval.be [194.183.229.159]) by relay.perceval.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA00119; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:47:03 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000929134232.00b05100@pophost.perceval.be> X-Sender: mberg@pophost.perceval.be X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:42:32 +0200 To: "Kondie" , From: Emmanuel Bergmans Subject: Re: Disk usage In-Reply-To: <000c01c026e4$25e15fe0$8ea894d0@galaxy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, At 13:31 25/09/2000 +0200, Kondie wrote: >Hie all, > >I don't excatly know if this is the correct group to post to , but I am a >newbie and I need some asistance. > >How do you check disk space in FreeBSD? Like in Win9x you just right-click >the drive and select Properties - shows you total, used and free and space. >I would like to know how to check disk usage because I believe one my >"partitions" has filled up but I don't know how to verify. > You can use a shell command like df -k (see man df for details) Regards, >Regards, > >Kondie. > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > Perceval Helpdesk Team helpdesk@perceval.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Perceval Technologies sa/nv Rue Tenbosch, 9 B-1000 Brussels BELGIUM Tel: +32-2-6409194 Fax: +32-2-6403154 URL: http://www.perceval.be/ E-mail for general information: info@perceval.net E-mail for technical information: helpdesk@perceval.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Sep 29 9: 3:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from camus.cybercable.fr (camus.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C563437B66B for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6247594 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2000 16:02:15 -0000 Received: from e003.dhcp212-138.cybercable.fr (HELO tubby8) ([212.198.138.3]) (envelope-sender ) by camus.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 29 Sep 2000 16:02:15 -0000 From: "tubby88" To: "y (E-mail)" Subject: Mir Vina Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:33:02 +0200 Message-ID: <000501c02a29$bc8607a0$1201010a@cybercable.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C02A3A.8017FF60" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org C'est un message de format MIME en plusieurs parties. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C02A3A.8017FF60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =D0=97=D0=B4=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B2=D1=83=D0=B9=D1=82=D0=B5,= =D0=92=D0=B0=D0=BC = =D1=85=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=8C =D0=B1=D1=8B = =D0=BE=D0=BA=D1=83=D0=BD=D1=83=D1=82=D1=8C=D1=81=D1=8F =D0=B2 = =D0=9C=D0=B8=D1=80 =D0=92=D0=B8=D0=BD=D0=B0? 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------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C02A3A.8017FF60-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Sep 29 11:27:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from autobot.veldt.com (vi-216-128-57-99-l3-rb1.anhmcaidc.firstworld.net [216.128.57.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781E437B423 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:27:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([192.168.1.2]) by autobot.veldt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA00284 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 03:41:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from james@veldt.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: james@autobot.veldt.com Message-Id: Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 03:40:21 -0600 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: James Gorham Subject: Help! IPFW Problems Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1241902024==_ma============" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --============_-1241902024==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Greetings. I'm having quite a bit of trouble, and it seems to be related to IP Divert and/or IP firewall. A bit of background... I compiled a custom kernel when I first installed FreeBSD, with: options IPDIVERT options IPFIREWALL as the only custom options from the GENERIC config, other than some custom screen colors. I ran my local network of a FreeBSD machine acting as the gateway for a single IP DSL connection to 2 macs on the LAN. It worked fine until I decided to install netatalk. I added the: options NETATALK to the same kernel file I used originally, config'd the file, make depend, make, and make install'd the kernel. Upon reboot I began getting messages such as: 00100 allow ip from any to any via lo0 ifw: setsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument 00200 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 ipfw: setsockop(IP_FW-AD): Invalid Argument 65000 allow ip from any to any ipfw: setsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument during boot process. After booting, and logging in, all tcp/ip functions were unavailble. Things like ping, would get: sendto: Permission denied. I tried removing the netatalk option from the Kernel file, recompiling and installing, and STILL get the ipfw errors. I had the following two lines in my rc.conf file: firewall_enable="YES" firewall_type="open" Originally (before the netatalk compile) these worked fine. If I comment these two lines out now, I can do my TCP/IP functions, but I cannot get any of the machines on the LAN on the internet, due to natd not being enabled. I gave up, and tried compiling the GENERIC kernel. After installing this kernel, I still cannot leave the above two lines in my rc.conf uncommented, or else I'll have no tcp/ip functions. I've never touched the rc.firewall file, nor have I ever cvsup'd the /usr/src directory. I've only updated the /usr/ports. If you have any idea at all as to what I should do, please let me know. I'm in dire need to get these machines back online. Best regards, james --============_-1241902024==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Help! IPFW Problems
Greetings.

I'm having quite a bit of trouble, and it seems to be related to IP Divert and/or IP firewall.

A bit of background...

I compiled a custom kernel when I first installed FreeBSD, with:
options         IPDIVERT
options         IPFIREWALL

as the only custom options from the GENERIC config, other than some custom screen colors.

I ran my local network of a FreeBSD machine acting as the gateway for a single IP DSL connection to 2 macs on the LAN. It worked fine until I decided to install netatalk.

I added the:
options         NETATALK
to the same kernel file I used originally, config'd the file, make depend, make, and make install'd the kernel. Upon reboot I began getting messages such as:
00100 allow ip from any to any via lo0
ifw: setsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument

00200 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8
ipfw: setsockop(IP_FW-AD): Invalid Argument

65000 allow ip from any to any
ipfw: setsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument

during boot process. After booting, and logging in, all tcp/ip functions were unavailble. Things like ping, would get:
sendto: Permission denied.

I tried removing the netatalk option from the Kernel file, recompiling and installing, and STILL get the ipfw errors. I had the following two lines in my rc.conf file:
firewall_enable="YES"
firewall_type="open"

Originally (before the netatalk compile) these worked fine. If I comment these two lines out now, I can do my TCP/IP functions, but I cannot get any of the machines on the LAN on the internet, due to natd not being enabled.

I gave up, and tried compiling the GENERIC kernel. After installing this kernel, I still cannot leave the above two lines in my rc.conf uncommented, or else I'll have no tcp/ip functions.

I've never touched the rc.firewall file, nor have I ever cvsup'd the /usr/src directory. I've only updated the /usr/ports.

If you have any idea at all as to what I should do, please let me know. I'm in dire need to get these machines back online.

Best regards,
james
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We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Sep 29 19:23:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n37.san.rr.com (dt051n37.san.rr.com [204.210.32.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E81E137B502 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 19:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slave (Studded@slave [10.0.0.1]) by dt051n37.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA72846; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 19:23:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 19:23:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton X-Sender: doug@dt051n37.san.rr.com To: Peter Salvage Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cron assistance please In-Reply-To: <025601c02960$f49e7b00$0200a8c0@ait.co.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Peter Salvage wrote: > > Use the "crontab" command (man 1 crontab) to edit a user-specific > > crontab or add your script to the /etc/crontab file (= root crontab > > - see man 8 cron for details). > > hmmm I think I see what to do...I create a file in /var/cron/tabs called > "exim" (that's what Exim runs under) containing just this line: > 1 0 * * * /usr/exim/bin/exicyclog > > ...which should call the relevant exim utility. > > Yes? No. Please read the crontab man pages very carefully, then if you're still confused please post a question on freebsd-questions@freebsd.org. Good luck, Doug -- "The dead cannot be seduced." - Kai, "Lexx" Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Sep 29 22:44:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web1609.mail.yahoo.com (web1609.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4104337B66C for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20280 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Sep 2000 05:44:21 -0000 Message-ID: <20000930054421.20279.qmail@web1609.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.31.46.118] by web1609.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:44:21 PDT Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:44:21 -0700 (PDT) From: DALE HALSTEAD To: FreeBSD-Newbies@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1244316437-970292661=:18584" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --0-1244316437-970292661=:18584 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Help, what flavor should I start with? I have a pc with win 95, 133mh, and 1.2 G hardrive. I have several versions of linux and unix (I am taking a class now in unix) but it sounds like I may want to start with FreeBSD or something. Just want to get of MSW! Also I do some programing with C++, Java Script, Java and applets, html on a 466mh, with 2 hardrives of 13.5 G each, partion magic to 5 partitions and so on. I don' want to do any thing with this one as I use it for school and work. Just letting you know more about me. Thanks, dale --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! --0-1244316437-970292661=:18584 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Help, what flavor should I start with?  I have a pc with win 95, 133mh, and 1.2 G hardrive. I have several versions of linux and unix (I am taking a class now in unix) but it sounds like I may want to start with FreeBSD or something.  Just want to get of MSW! 


Also I do some programing with C++, Java Script, Java and applets, html on a 466mh, with 2 hardrives of 13.5 G each, partion magic to 5 partitions and so on.  I don' want to do any thing with this one as I use it for school and work. Just letting you know more about me.  Thanks, dale


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Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! --0-1244316437-970292661=:18584-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 30 1:45:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from crosswinds.net (ppp45-AS5800.vtc.ru [212.16.211.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57D737B503 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 01:45:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ampy@localhost) by crosswinds.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01399; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 19:47:49 +1000 (GST) (envelope-from ampy) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 19:47:48 +1000 From: Arseny Slobodjuck To: bentley Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: general query Message-ID: <20000930194748.A1150@ampy.rwst> References: <200009252350.TAA13611@jxmls04> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200009252350.TAA13611@jxmls04>; from bentley3@mediaone.net on Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 07:50:40PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 07:50:40PM -0400, bentley wrote: > has anyone noticed that under FreeBSD 4.1 RELEASE that like, an 8 gig > partition fills up REALLY REALLY fast, when in M$ Winblows...it doesn't > NEARLY AT ALL take up 1/4 that space. i downloaded the 2.2-stable, 3.0 & > 4.0 stables....but can't finish them allbecuase it says its out of room! I beleive it takes far more than 8 Gb partition to install windoze and apps *with all sources*. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 30 8: 8:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web1605.mail.yahoo.com (web1605.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 345B337B502 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 08:08:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 27377 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Sep 2000 15:08:21 -0000 Message-ID: <20000930150821.27376.qmail@web1605.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.15.138.35] by web1605.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 08:08:21 PDT Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 08:08:21 -0700 (PDT) From: DALE HALSTEAD To: FreeBSD-Newbies@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1957747793-970326501=:27303" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --0-1957747793-970326501=:27303 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Help, what flavor should I start with? I have a pc with win 95, 133mh, and 1.2 G hardrive. I have several versions of linux and unix (I am taking a class now in unix) but it sounds like I may want to start with FreeBSD or something. Just want to get of MSW! Also I do some programing with C++, Java Script, Java and applets, html on a 466mh, with 2 hardrives of 13.5 G each, partion magic to 5 partitions and so on. I don' want to do any thing with this one as I use it for school and work. Just letting you know more about me. Thanks, dale --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! --0-1957747793-970326501=:27303 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Help, what flavor should I start with?  I have a pc with win 95, 133mh, and 1.2 G hardrive. I have several versions of linux and unix (I am taking a class now in unix) but it sounds like I may want to start with FreeBSD or something.  Just want to get of MSW! 


Also I do some programing with C++, Java Script, Java and applets, html on a 466mh, with 2 hardrives of 13.5 G each, partion magic to 5 partitions and so on.  I don' want to do any thing with this one as I use it for school and work. Just letting you know more about me.  Thanks, dale


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Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! --0-1957747793-970326501=:27303-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 30 13:57:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from glitch.crosswinds.net (glitch.crosswinds.net [209.208.163.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6497537B503 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 13:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lexx.my.domain (dyn64-ras31.screaming.net [212.49.254.64]) by glitch.crosswinds.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA39648; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 16:57:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from john253@crosswinds.net) From: John Murphy To: DALE HALSTEAD Cc: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 21:56:59 +0100 Organization: The Organisation Reply-To: john253@crosswinds.net Message-ID: <7nhcts064e58a9pk4ejshnvlrntv3vqlpo@4ax.com> References: <20000930150821.27376.qmail@web1605.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20000930150821.27376.qmail@web1605.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org DALE HALSTEAD wrote: > >Help, what flavor should I start with? I have a pc with win 95, 133mh, >and 1.2 G hardrive. I have several versions of linux and unix (I am = taking >a class now in unix) but it sounds like I may want to start with FreeBSD= or >something. Just want to get of MSW! =20 > As you're taking a class in unix and you have two computers, I'd = recommend a minimal install of FreeBSD-4.1 on your spare pc. =46irst you could get the two connected and backup anything you need from= the slower machine onto the faster one. Else, if you have a spare HD you = could configure the 133Mhz one to dual boot either the win95 disk, or FreeBSD. You could use the remaining space left by a minimal install, to install = sources for inspection, but 1.2Gbyte may not be large enough to make world. =46reeBSD-questions would be pleased to answer any homework questions you= have ;) Not Really. but they prefer lines wrapped ~75 cols ;) Yes Really. Good luck John. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 30 14: 1:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from rrlhcmal1001.lhc.redrivernet.com (rrlhcmal1001.lhc.redrivernet.com [206.162.75.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C5137B502 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 14:01:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [216.173.151.35] by rrlhcmal1001.redrivernet.com (NTMail 5.06.0016/NU7672.00.74189ec7) with ESMTP id hysxabaa for FreeBSD-Newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 14:01:32 -0700 Message-ID: <39D654A0.37CAC582@techie.com> Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 14:01:20 -0700 From: Janet Sullivan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DALE HALSTEAD , FreeBSD-Newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: References: <20000930150821.27376.qmail@web1605.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org DALE HALSTEAD wrote: > > Help, what flavor should I start with? I have a pc with win 95, > 133mh, and 1.2 G hardrive. I have several versions of linux and unix > (I am taking a class now in unix) but it sounds like I may want to > start with FreeBSD or something. Just want to get of MSW! I'd suggest starting with FreeBSD. Overall it's my favorite, although for some purposes I use other unixes. (My firewall is on a OpenBSD box, and my laptop runs RedHat. I may change my laptop to FreeBSD some day, but it was such a bear getting everything to work on it I kind of hate to start over. ) My main system runs FreeBSD 4.1.1-Stable 95% of the time though. Janet ...yes, I'm a MCSE with NT experience. That's why my operating system of choice is FreeBSD. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 30 20:11:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f199.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7524237B503 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 20:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 20:11:17 -0700 Received: from 199.45.200.140 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 01 Oct 2000 03:11:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [199.45.200.140] From: "Drew Redman" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 03:11:17 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Oct 2000 03:11:17.0396 (UTC) FILETIME=[43AC6540:01C02B55] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org auth f91421e5 subscribe freebsd-newbies drew_redman@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 30 20:28:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f253.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B375437B503 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 20:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 20:28:16 -0700 Received: from 199.45.200.140 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 01 Oct 2000 03:28:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [199.45.200.140] From: "Drew Redman" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Free BSD Install Problem Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 03:28:16 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Oct 2000 03:28:16.0586 (UTC) FILETIME=[A32872A0:01C02B57] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey all, I'm new to the list, and new to FreeBSD, so go easy on me please. I recently downloaded and burned the FreeBSD 4.1 ISO. I am now trying to boot and install FreeBSD from the cd onto an IBM 330 PC Server. But I'm having a hard time doing so. After the computer boots into the FreeBSD install off of the cd, it gives you the option of configuring kernel options or simply continuing. Regardless of which option I pick, I still have the problem. Anyway, after continuing to load the kernel, I get a message saying "Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle". Well, 15 seconds comes and goes, and nothing happens.. In fact, I let it sit for 30 minutes and nothing happened.. I have no idea why this is happening, can anyone out there please give me any clues as to where the problem might be? Thank You, Drew BTW- Yes the box has enough guts to run FreeBSD easily... 64megs of RAM, 4.5 gig hd, PPro 200... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 30 21:48:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from heorot.1nova.com (sub24-23.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.24.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA9E37B66D for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 21:48:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B95D7328D; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 21:12:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A666B328C; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 21:12:34 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 21:12:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Rick Hamell To: Drew Redman Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Free BSD Install Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please send questions to -questions. That is what is for. They are willing to answer anything question, no matter how "newbiesh" it may be seem. You may also want to check all your hardware settings though. Usually SCSI timeout errors are misconfigurations. Rick On Sun, 1 Oct 2000, Drew Redman wrote: > Hey all, > I'm new to the list, and new to FreeBSD, so go easy on me please. > > I recently downloaded and burned the FreeBSD 4.1 ISO. I am now trying to > boot and install FreeBSD from the cd onto an IBM 330 PC Server. But I'm > having a hard time doing so. After the computer boots into the FreeBSD > install off of the cd, it gives you the option of configuring kernel options > or simply continuing. Regardless of which option I pick, I still have the > problem. Anyway, after continuing to load the kernel, I get a message saying > "Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle". Well, 15 seconds comes and > goes, and nothing happens.. In fact, I let it sit for 30 minutes and nothing > happened.. I have no idea why this is happening, can anyone out there please > give me any clues as to where the problem might be? > Thank You, > Drew > > BTW- Yes the box has enough guts to run FreeBSD easily... 64megs of RAM, 4.5 > gig hd, PPro 200... > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 30 21:57:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f11.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A88137B502 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 21:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 21:57:30 -0700 Received: from 199.45.200.140 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 01 Oct 2000 04:57:30 GMT X-Originating-IP: [199.45.200.140] From: "Drew Redman" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Install Help Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 04:57:30 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Oct 2000 04:57:30.0276 (UTC) FILETIME=[1A34B640:01C02B64] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey All, I'm new to both FreeBSD and this list, so please go easy... Recently, I downloaded the FreeBSD 4.1 ISO. After burning it, I attempted to install it by setting up the bios on my box to boot from the cdrom. Then I put the cd in and booted into the FreeBSD setup with the cd. When the computer first boots from the cd, it begins loading the kernel, then gives a menu screen asking if I want to configure the kernel or continue without configuring. Regardless of which option I choose, the problem still exists. Anyway, so I choose an option and the kernel continues to load. Then, I get a message saying "Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle". Well, 15 seconds comes and goes and nothing happens. I've waited up to 30 minutes for it to proceed and it never does.. I have no idea what to try next. Any tips anyone out there could give me would be a huge help. Thank You, drew BTW- Yes the box is fast enough to support FreeBSD, its a PPro 200, 64 megs of RAM, and a 4 gig drive.. and I'm using a Adaptec 2940A SCSI adapter... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message