From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Dec 17 1:43:55 2000 From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 17 01:43:49 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from engine8.dhivehinet.net.mv (unknown [202.1.192.219]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E57737B400 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 01:43:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from oemcomputer ([202.1.193.151]) by engine8.dhivehinet.net.mv (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 0-58493U3000L300S0V35) with SMTP id mv; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 14:11:23 -0500 Message-ID: <000101c06809$9c56c320$97c101ca@oemcomputer> From: "Haikal Saadh" To: "Doug Young" , "Michel Van Simaeys" , References: <000c01c0679d$4d119c20$fae0043e@sky40294> <003a01c067a9$411b0e40$847e03cb@apana.org.au> Subject: Re: Trying to install FreeBsd for the very first time. Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 13:31:02 +0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004E_01C0682D.997E9280" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C0682D.997E9280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Damn right!!! My dad's laptop's (toshiba satellite 2100CDT) sooooo geared for windows, = you can't even change the display's brigtness unless it's in = windows...all the fn+Fx keys pop up little windows dialogs that you = click on instead of cycling thru all the options like they used to (on = previous laptops i've seen/used). But as for the problem at hand: /boot.config: -P Keyboard: no ^^ I'd hazard a a guess and say your keyboards not being = detected...if you've got an extra keyboard lying around, try plugging = that in. From: Doug Young=20 To: Michel Van Simaeys ; freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG=20 Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 2:43 AM Subject: Re: Trying to install FreeBsd for the very first time. I don't know that beast at all .... probably none of them roamed as = far from home as Australia :) However I have attempted to install = various renditions of FreeBSD on some of the more exotic hardware & = invariably discovered (presumably) new / hitherto undiscovered = "features".=20 =20 If by"portable" you mean some flavor of laptop then I'm not at all = surprised you are getting weird results .... seems most laptop = manufacturers search out the most unusual bits that are guaranteed to = give problems with any O/S bar Win9x !!! =20 Probably the best place to start here (assuming you have the patience = of Job) is to provide the list with a complete summary of what is in the = machine .... VGA adaptor / audio adaptor / IDE controller / motherboard = chipset / RAM / CPU manufacturer / NIC (if installed) / modem as someone = may have had experience with some or all those bits. My suggestion for what its worth is to exchange the thing for a = regular "common or garden variety" box ... preferably one of the generic = "built in someone's backyard" style rather than a Compaq / Digital / IBM = / Fujitsu type one as those are often inclined to be Win9x devotees.=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michel Van Simaeys=20 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG=20 Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 6:18 AM Subject: Trying to install FreeBsd for the very first time. Dear, Finally I have a portable to instaal FreeBsd 3.3 on. After making = the installation disks, I try to boot from diskette. This is what = appears. After about one minute the system stops with the following = statements. /boot.config: -P Keyboard: no - BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01 I have to reset the machine to be able to continue. I saw in the = documentation an advise on using the 'userconfig' tool; Where on the net = can I find this tool? =20 What is going on?? I have a Echos P133 Portable from Olivetti with DOS 6.3 installed. See you, Michel Van Simaeys ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C0682D.997E9280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Damn right!!!
My dad's laptop's (toshiba satellite = 2100CDT)=20 sooooo geared for windows, you can't even change the display's brigtness = unless=20 it's in windows...all the fn+Fx keys pop up little windows dialogs that = you=20 click on instead of cycling thru all the options like they used to (on = previous=20 laptops i've seen/used).
 
But as for the problem at = hand:
/boot.config: -P
Keyboard: no
            =    =20 ^^
        I'd hazard a a guess and say = your=20 keyboards not being detected...if you've got an extra keyboard lying = around, try=20 plugging that in.
From:=20 Doug Young
To: Michel Van Simaeys ; freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG =
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 = 2:43=20 AM
Subject: Re: Trying to install = FreeBsd=20 for the very first time.

I don't know that beast at all .... = probably none=20 of them roamed as far from home as Australia :) However I have = attempted to=20 install various renditions of FreeBSD on some of the more exotic = hardware=20 & invariably discovered (presumably) new / hitherto undiscovered=20 "features".
 
If by"portable" you mean some flavor = of laptop=20 then I'm not at all surprised you are getting weird results .... seems = most=20 laptop manufacturers search out the most unusual bits that are = guaranteed to=20 give problems with any O/S bar Win9x !!!
 
Probably the best place to start here = (assuming=20 you have the patience of Job) is to provide the list with a complete = summary=20 of what is in the machine .... VGA adaptor / audio adaptor / IDE = controller /=20 motherboard chipset / RAM / CPU manufacturer / NIC (if installed) = / modem=20 as someone may have had experience with some or all those=20 bits.
 
My suggestion for what its worth is = to exchange=20 the thing for a regular "common or garden variety" box ... preferably = one of=20 the generic "built in someone's backyard" style rather than a Compaq / = Digital=20 / IBM / Fujitsu  type one as = those are=20 often inclined to be Win9x devotees. 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Michel Van Simaeys
To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG =
Sent: Sunday, December 17, = 2000 6:18=20 AM
Subject: Trying to install = FreeBsd for=20 the very first time.

Dear,
 
 
Finally I have a portable to = instaal FreeBsd=20 3.3 on. After making the installation disks, I try to boot from = diskette.=20 This is what appears. After about one minute the system stops with = the=20 following statements.
/boot.config: -P
Keyboard: no
-
BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is=20 1.01
 
I have to reset the machine to be = able to=20 continue. I saw in the documentation an advise on using the=20 'userconfig' tool; Where on the net can I find this=20 tool?  
What is going on??
 I have a Echos P133 Portable = from=20 Olivetti with DOS 6.3 installed.
 
 
See you,
 
Michel Van=20 Simaeys
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