From owner-freebsd-qa Mon Mar 13 20:41:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from pinenut.nosc.mil (pinenut.nosc.mil [198.253.4.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B4537B511; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 20:41:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from syed@pinenut.nosc.mil) Received: (from syed@localhost) by pinenut.nosc.mil (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA63534; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 20:41:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from syed) From: basit Syed Message-Id: <200003140441.UAA63534@pinenut.nosc.mil> Subject: 4.0-20000313-CURRENT - missing file libXThrStub.so.6 To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 20:41:16 -0800 (PST) Cc: jkh@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i installed i386 snapshot 4.0-20000313-CURRENT via ftp. After install of X-User distribution, i attempted to configure X. howevere XF86Setup balked. i exited the install and discovered that the problem is caused by a missing file, /usr/X11R6/lib/libXThrStub.so.6. i copied the file from an earlier distribution and completed the install. i performed both, the Standard and the Express installs. i tested kde, gnome + enlightenment, and netscape 4.7. everything worked properly. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Thu Mar 16 13:39:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f148.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 92A9137B8CB for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:39:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmd526@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 5201 invoked by uid 0); 16 Mar 2000 21:39:40 -0000 Message-ID: <20000316213940.5200.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.220.228.2 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:39:40 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.220.228.2] From: "John Daniels" To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: 4.0-RELEASE Install Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:39:40 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi: I installed 4.0-RELEASE on March 15th from ftp.freebsd.org and found these problems: 1. "Unable to extract local distribution" I had the same problem with 4.0-RC3. What is the local distribution? Is it important? Has this been fixed? Can I now get it using /stand/sysinstall? 2. "Package RSAREF was not found in the Index" Again, can I now get this using /stand/sysinstall? 3. After the system rebooted, I logged in a user account but I got the message "could not lookup internet address for ..." when I started x. (I hit a "continue" button or something and X did start - but Netscape did not connect to any web pages) Perhaps my NIC was not being made available as a device to the user account? I don't recall getting the message under root, but I haven't yet tested Netscape under root either. Is there some privilege that I have to set, or some group that a user must belong to that will allow access to the NIC? 4. I wasn't asked if I wanted to sync my clock with an outside source. Is this because I didn't activate named? How can I activeate named now? (stand/sysinstall?) 5. By CVSup-ing, I can keep my sources up-to-date, but how do I know thta is safe to make and install a new kernel? (I have been wondering this about those who track -CURRENT) I know that it is always a good idea to keep a previously workign kernel around, but how do you tell the system, on boot, to use the old one? John ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Fri Mar 17 7:21:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from pan.ch.intel.com (pan.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88BA437B569; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 07:20:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by pan.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.19 2000/01/29 00:15:43 dmccart Exp $) with ESMTP id IAA00786; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:20:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.10 2000/02/10 21:38:16 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id IAA28027; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:19:50 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id KAA16903; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:20:53 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14546.19796.641813.519979@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:20:52 -0700 (MST) To: david_marcantonio@sanger.k12.ca.us Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, qa@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD suggestion In-Reply-To: <38D193A7.8221D8FE@sanger.k12.ca.us> References: <38D193A7.8221D8FE@sanger.k12.ca.us> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.3.11 Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ cd'ed to -qa ] [ On Thursday, March 16, David Marcantonio wrote: ] > Is it possible to provide FreeBSD in a ISO disk image format on your FTP > servers? I noticed RedHat has this option for downloading RedHat Linux. > You go to one of their FTP sites and you can find a directory called > "iso." After you download it, you can drop it on a CD-ROM burning app > and make an image of the CD they sell in stores. I feel this is a great > idea to get FreeBSD. If you provide an easy to copy format for beginners > of BSD, they won't have to figure out which file goes in what directory, > or which file they need. If you creat disk images of your FreeBSD, > someone with a quick connection can download it and have their own ready > to go copy of FreeBSD. This way, you'll get more novice BSD users to > install it. Just thought I might suggest that piece of info with you. we have been uploading the first disk of the Walnut creek 4-disc set since about FreeBSD 3.3 (maybe earilier, maybe 3.4, my memory back that far is fuzzy :). You will find ISO's here: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/ ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/alpha/ISO-IMAGES/ it just so happens that the 4.0-RELEASE ISO images are for some reason, MIAWNARW (missing in action with no announced reason why :) right now ... -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Fri Mar 17 8: 8:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D2C37C0D6; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:08:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (dcs@p39-dn02kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [211.0.245.104]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) with ESMTP id BAA11651; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 01:08:40 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <38D25833.A8A07138@newsguy.com> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 01:07:15 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Daniels Cc: freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.0-RELEASE Install References: <20000316213940.5200.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Daniels wrote: > > Hi: > > I installed 4.0-RELEASE on March 15th from ftp.freebsd.org and found these > problems: > > 1. "Unable to extract local distribution" > > I had the same problem with 4.0-RC3. What is the local distribution? Is it > important? Has this been fixed? Can I now get it using /stand/sysinstall? Jordan never clarified this, but I have always thought this refers to an arbitrary set of files, so that you can create distributions of your own to be automatically installed on your network. Ie, "local" distribution. :-) > 2. "Package RSAREF was not found in the Index" > > Again, can I now get this using /stand/sysinstall? Well, that I can't even test. > 3. After the system rebooted, I logged in a user account but I got the > message "could not lookup internet address for ..." when I started x. (I > hit a "continue" button or something and X did start - but Netscape did not > connect to any web pages) Perhaps my NIC was not being made available as a > device to the user account? That doesn't happen. > I don't recall getting the message under root, but I haven't yet tested > Netscape under root either. Is there some privilege that I have to set, or > some group that a user must belong to that will allow access to the NIC? No. Can you do a simple ping to local network addresses by IP? And addresses outside your LAN? If so, does nslookup works? Your problem might be either one of misconfiguration of the network (wrong network IP/mask or misconfiguration of default router), or one of misconfiguration of DNS. > 4. I wasn't asked if I wanted to sync my clock with an outside source. Is > this because I didn't activate named? How can I activeate named now? > (stand/sysinstall?) This has nothing to do with named. We simply do not do that by default. If you want to sync your clock with an outside source, read the ntp man page. > 5. By CVSup-ing, I can keep my sources up-to-date, but how do I know thta is > safe to make and install a new kernel? (I have been wondering this about > those who track -CURRENT) WRT stable, you may _assume_ it is safe. Sometimes, it isn't, and that's our fault. Mostly, it is. If you plan to follow -current, you need to read -current and cvs-all mailing lists, and also pay attention to /usr/src/UPDATING. And, then, you simply don't know it's safe, because it hasn't been tested except in limited enviroments. It's -current users that make the larger testing environment. > I know that it is always a good idea to keep a previously workign kernel > around, but how do you tell the system, on boot, to use the old one? When the system starts the 10 seconds count down before booting, interrupt it and then enter the following commands: unload boot .old where is the name of your kernel, of course. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Fri Mar 17 12: 9:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874D837B637; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 12:09:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA50866; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 12:09:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: John Reynolds~ Cc: david_marcantonio@sanger.k12.ca.us, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, qa@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD suggestion In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:20:52 MST." <14546.19796.641813.519979@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 12:09:19 -0800 Message-ID: <50863.953323759@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There was indeed a reason announced - the ISO images will be up after everything has been properly tested for a few days. I can update bits on an FTP site fairly easily. I can't do the same for 20,000 CDs once they're in the field. - Jordan > > [ cd'ed to -qa ] > > [ On Thursday, March 16, David Marcantonio wrote: ] > > Is it possible to provide FreeBSD in a ISO disk image format on your FTP > > servers? I noticed RedHat has this option for downloading RedHat Linux. > > You go to one of their FTP sites and you can find a directory called > > "iso." After you download it, you can drop it on a CD-ROM burning app > > and make an image of the CD they sell in stores. I feel this is a great > > idea to get FreeBSD. If you provide an easy to copy format for beginners > > of BSD, they won't have to figure out which file goes in what directory, > > or which file they need. If you creat disk images of your FreeBSD, > > someone with a quick connection can download it and have their own ready > > to go copy of FreeBSD. This way, you'll get more novice BSD users to > > install it. Just thought I might suggest that piece of info with you. > > we have been uploading the first disk of the Walnut creek 4-disc set since > about FreeBSD 3.3 (maybe earilier, maybe 3.4, my memory back that far is fuzz y > :). You will find ISO's here: > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/ > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/alpha/ISO-IMAGES/ > > it just so happens that the 4.0-RELEASE ISO images are for some reason, > MIAWNARW (missing in action with no announced reason why :) right now ... > > -Jr > > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | > | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | > | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Fri Mar 17 12:43: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from melete.ch.intel.com (melete.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E692137B82A for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 12:43:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by melete.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.19 2000/01/29 00:15:43 dmccart Exp $) with ESMTP id UAA07847 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:44:22 GMT Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.10 2000/02/10 21:38:16 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id NAA15322 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:41:56 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-To: X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id PAA03880; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 15:42:59 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14546.39123.206095.7852@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:42:59 -0700 (MST) To: qa@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD suggestion In-Reply-To: <50863.953323759@zippy.cdrom.com> References: <14546.19796.641813.519979@hip186.ch.intel.com> <50863.953323759@zippy.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.3.11 Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Friday, March 17, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: ] > There was indeed a reason announced - the ISO images will be up after > everything has been properly tested for a few days. I can update bits "...both architectures) will also be available via anonymous FTP as soon as it's been compiled in its final form." I had assumed this meant that some machine somewhere was busily cranking on making the ISO from a release hierarchy (and that as soon as this process was done, they'd be copied to the FTP site). If there was a secondary announcement about further testing before releasing the ISOs and I missed it, I apologize for my assumption and statement. > on an FTP site fairly easily. I can't do the same for 20,000 CDs once > they're in the field. I can perfectly understand this. However, if there is an ISO image of "what should be 4.0-RELEASE" somewhere, would it be a benefit to post that pointer to the qa list (less traffic than -current and less "visible" than -announce) in hopes that people would download it and give it one more series of run-thrus before the 20,000 CDs were burned? -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Fri Mar 17 16:34:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f187.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.187]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7708B37B925 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 16:34:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmd526@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 28435 invoked by uid 0); 18 Mar 2000 00:34:29 -0000 Message-ID: <20000318003429.28434.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.163.205.56 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 16:34:29 PST X-Originating-IP: [152.163.205.56] From: "John Daniels" To: dcs@newsguy.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Subject: Need More Info Re: 4.0-RELEASE Install Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:34:29 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi: Thanks for the reply, but still have a problem to resolve, and some potential problems if I don't get RSAREF. When I startx, I get a message ("could not lookup internet address for ..."). I believe that the message come from Gnome. I checked my system and I found that my NIC seems to be configured and available (as shown by ifconfig). I have a 3Com905B, which shows up as x10 in ifconfig. My NIC is connected to a Netopia router and I use concentric for DSL service. I installed via ftp so I'm pretty certain that on a system level, I should be able to 'ping' or use the NIC. The question is do I need to change gnome configurations, start pppd or named (I have inetd running) or some other service, or do I need to change Gnome configuration settings (and isn't it a bug if they weren't set by ports or sysinstall?) I haven't seen anyone else complaining, so I figure that I need to start named (or pppd.) I tried to do this with /stand/sysinstall's postinstall option but it didn't appear to work. Is that a bug? How can I start named from the system? Do I just edit the configuration file and type 'named' (from root)? If so, can someone give me some pointers on how to edit the named config file since it is a bit confusing. Is there something else that I need to do that I am missing? FYI: 'localization' needs better documentation. I don't recall seeing any explaination during the install. Others have recently had trouble with localization and I saw a fix for this where a set of 3 'set env..' (for US-english key mappings, etc.) commands need to be added to the csh.cshrc file. If 'localization' in the install really does refers to site-specific details, then this should be made clear. If not, then it would appear that sysinstall 'localization' is indeed responsible for installing localized keymappings, etc, and the fact that it was missing is a bug. (I complained about this after RC3) Also: In my install I was not able to get RSAREF. I have seen that several people have had problems with the new rsa/crypto/security in 4.0, and I would like to avoid that now, rather than stumble over it later. I looked for the local and RSAREF distributions within /stand/sysinstall but I didn't see them. (As above, I also tried to enable named from /stand/sysinstall but apparently I couldn't.) How can I do get RSAREF (I already know the fix for localization) from within the system itself? Lastly, I'd like to clarify the issue of Current v. Stable. With RELENG_4 release tag, I have seen 4.0 described as the "4.0-stable branch." I have also heard that 4.0 is very stable, much more so than 3.0 was, etc. and I am not using the box in a production environment. Even so, since 4.0 is fairly new, I figure that it may experience a time when CVSup-ing results in problems. I'd rather keep that to a minimum (if I was at a level where I could deal with such problems and had the patience and time, I would be tracking 5.0-CURRENT). I know that I am accepting *some* risk by tracking RELENG_4 but I would like to reduce that as much as possible. Do I simply CVSup, then examin the mailing lists for problems for a few days, and if no major problems are reported, then make and install a new kernel from that (2 or 3 day old) CVSup? John >John Daniels wrote: > > > > Hi: > > > > I installed 4.0-RELEASE on March 15th from ftp.freebsd.org and found >these > > problems: > > > > 1. "Unable to extract local distribution" > > > > I had the same problem with 4.0-RC3. What is the local distribution? >Is it > > important? Has this been fixed? Can I now get it using >/stand/sysinstall? > >Jordan never clarified this, but I have always thought this refers to an >arbitrary set of files, so that you can create distributions of your own >to be automatically installed on your network. Ie, "local" distribution. >:-) > > > 2. "Package RSAREF was not found in the Index" > > > > Again, can I now get this using /stand/sysinstall? > >Well, that I can't even test. > > > 3. After the system rebooted, I logged in a user account but I got the > > message "could not lookup internet address for ..." when I started x. >(I > > hit a "continue" button or something and X did start - but Netscape did >not > > connect to any web pages) Perhaps my NIC was not being made available >as a > > device to the user account? > >That doesn't happen. > > > I don't recall getting the message under root, but I haven't yet tested > > Netscape under root either. Is there some privilege that I have to set, >or > > some group that a user must belong to that will allow access to the NIC? > >No. Can you do a simple ping to local network addresses by IP? And >addresses outside your LAN? If so, does nslookup works? Your problem >might be either one of misconfiguration of the network (wrong network >IP/mask or misconfiguration of default router), or one of >misconfiguration of DNS. > > > 4. I wasn't asked if I wanted to sync my clock with an outside source. >Is > > this because I didn't activate named? How can I activeate named now? > > (stand/sysinstall?) > >This has nothing to do with named. We simply do not do that by default. >If you want to sync your clock with an outside source, read the ntp man >page. > > > 5. By CVSup-ing, I can keep my sources up-to-date, but how do I know >thta is > > safe to make and install a new kernel? (I have been wondering this >about > > those who track -CURRENT) > >WRT stable, you may _assume_ it is safe. Sometimes, it isn't, and that's >our fault. Mostly, it is. > >If you plan to follow -current, you need to read -current and cvs-all >mailing lists, and also pay attention to /usr/src/UPDATING. And, then, >you simply don't know it's safe, because it hasn't been tested except in >limited enviroments. It's -current users that make the larger testing >environment. > > > I know that it is always a good idea to keep a previously workign kernel > > around, but how do you tell the system, on boot, to use the old one? > >When the system starts the 10 seconds count down before booting, >interrupt it and then enter the following commands: > >unload >boot .old > >where is the name of your kernel, of course. > >-- >Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) >dcs@newsguy.com >dcs@freebsd.org > > One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, > One IP to bring them all and in the zone bind them. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Fri Mar 17 19:34:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096A037B52C; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:34:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (dcs@p09-dn01kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [211.0.245.10]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) with ESMTP id MAA13056; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:34:18 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <38D2F8E6.DC93D487@newsguy.com> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:32:54 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Daniels Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need More Info Re: 4.0-RELEASE Install References: <20000318003429.28434.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Daniels wrote: > > When I startx, I get a message ("could not lookup internet address for > ..."). I believe that the message come from > Gnome. I checked my system and I found that my NIC seems to be configured > and available (as shown by ifconfig). I have a 3Com905B, which shows up as > x10 in ifconfig. My NIC is connected to a Netopia router and I use > concentric for DSL service. I installed via ftp so I'm pretty certain that > on a system level, I should be able to 'ping' or use the NIC. You _installed_ via ftp. That doesn't mean the network is working _after_ the install, which is why I suggested the various tests. > The question is do I need to change gnome configurations, start pppd or > named (I have inetd running) or some other service, or do I need to change > Gnome configuration settings (and isn't it a bug if they weren't set by > ports or sysinstall?) How should I know? You didn't make the tests I asked... > I haven't seen anyone else complaining, so I figure that I need to start > named (or pppd.) I tried to do this with /stand/sysinstall's postinstall > option but it didn't appear to work. Is that a bug? Why do you say it didn't appear to work? Anyway, starting an unconfigured named or pppd (or ppp) is not a good idea. > How can I start named from the system? Do I just edit the configuration > file and type 'named' (from root)? If so, can someone give me some pointers > on how to edit the named config file since it is a bit confusing. Better stay away from named. > Is there something else that I need to do that I am missing? Yes, you need to: ping IP of another local area network host ping IP of a host outside the LAN nslookup > FYI: 'localization' needs better documentation. I don't recall seeing any > explaination during the install. Others have recently had trouble with > localization and I saw a fix for this where a set of 3 'set env..' (for > US-english key mappings, etc.) commands need to be added to the csh.cshrc > file. If 'localization' in the install really does refers to site-specific > details, then this should be made clear. If not, then it would appear that > sysinstall 'localization' is indeed responsible for installing localized > keymappings, etc, and the fact that it was missing is a bug. (I complained > about this after RC3) "local" distribution is not "localization". Localization refers to adopting a number of standards of some national culture. Local distribution refers to something you can create on your own to customize installations. This is for experienced users. Yes, there is no explanation of what a "local distribution" is during installation. One would expect users would not install things they do not know what they are for. > Also: In my install I was not able to get RSAREF. I have seen that several > people have had problems with the new rsa/crypto/security in 4.0, and I > would like to avoid that now, rather than stumble over it later. > > I looked for the local and RSAREF distributions within /stand/sysinstall but > I didn't see them. (As above, I also tried to enable named from > /stand/sysinstall but apparently I couldn't.) How can I do get RSAREF (I > already know the fix for localization) from within the system itself? That's the Crypto distribution. If you want to stay away from it, just do not install it. > Lastly, I'd like to clarify the issue of Current v. Stable. With RELENG_4 > release tag, I have seen 4.0 described as the "4.0-stable branch." I have > also heard that 4.0 is very stable, much more so than 3.0 was, etc. and I am > not using the box in a production environment. Even so, since 4.0 is fairly > new, I figure that it may experience a time when CVSup-ing results in > problems. I'd rather keep that to a minimum (if I was at a level where I > could deal with such problems and had the patience and time, I would be > tracking 5.0-CURRENT). I know that I am accepting *some* risk by tracking > RELENG_4 but I would like to reduce that as much as possible. Do I simply > CVSup, then examin the mailing lists for problems for a few days, and if no > major problems are reported, then make and install a new kernel from that (2 > or 3 day old) CVSup? That is a reasonable procedure and expectation for a -stable branch. -- Daniel C. 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