From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 16 0:23:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D0B14D78 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 00:23:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id BAA36964; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:22:39 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ken) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:22:38 -0700 From: "Kenneth D. Merry" To: Rick Hamell Cc: Micke Josefsson , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Expected SCSI speed question Message-ID: <20000116012238.A30815@panzer.kdm.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from hamellr@aracnet.com on Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 02:25:17PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 14:25:17 -0800, Rick Hamell wrote: > > > I have a 200 MHz K6 system (FBSD 3.2), Adaptec 2940UW SCSI-adaptor and Seagate > > ST19171W Hard disk. The Seagate (Barracuda 9) disk is specced to up to 40 > > Mbytes/sec Max sync. SCSI transfer rate. But whatever tests I run (copying > > large files to and fro, dd from disk to /dev/null for example) the actual speed > > is never more than around 0.5 MB/s according to 'systat -io 1' or 'systat -vm > > 1'. > > > > Is there a knob to turn to speed it up or is this a bottleneck due to the > > processor? > > I've noticed that the Adaptec 2940UW seems to be a fairly slow > card, at this point I'm pulling every single one I come across and > replacing with Tekram cards. The biggest differance I saw was doing a > drive mirror under Novell 3.12 a couple of weeks ago. Dual 2940s with > their own seperate drives took 3 hours. Using the exact same model drive > and two of the Tekram cards took under 20 minutes. Under FreeBSD I've seen > similar performance. :( That certainly hasn't been my experience. The only thing I can figure is that you've got things misconfigured somehow. Your problem under Novell is likely a driver issue of some sort. I'm sure the Tekram cards will perform fine, assuming you get NCR/Symbios based boards. Make sure you use the 'sym' driver, since the 'ncr' driver is fairly buggy, and somewhat lacking in the error recovery department. The original poster's speed problems are due to the speed of the drive, and have nothing to do with the controller. Just because a drive's bus speed is 40MB/sec doesn't mean the heads/media can push the bits that fast. The Barracuda 9 is a fairly old drive, but I would think it would be able to do more than 5MB/sec. To test it out, try something like this: dd if=/dev/rda0 of=/dev/null bs=1m count=2048 You have to make the blocksize big enough in order to get any performance. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 16 0:28:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.chat.ru (gnu.chat.ru [212.24.32.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C0714F05 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 00:28:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aledem@chat.ru) Received: from dial-spb-115.sovintel.ru ([195.68.189.115] helo=default) by mail.chat.ru with esmtp (Exim 3.10 #2) id 129l3B-000HFY-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 11:28:42 +0300 From: "Dementsov Alexey" To: Subject: I have question Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 11:29:16 +0300 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I would be very grateful if you could give some information about configuration ppp for remote access from Microsoft client to FreeBSD server. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 16 0:59:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 114E3152A2 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 00:59:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id BAA49921; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:59:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ken) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:59:34 -0700 From: "Kenneth D. Merry" To: Rick Hamell Cc: Micke Josefsson , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Expected SCSI speed question Message-ID: <20000116015934.A49905@panzer.kdm.org> References: <20000116012238.A30815@panzer.kdm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000116012238.A30815@panzer.kdm.org>; from ken@kdm.org on Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 01:22:38AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 01:22:38 -0700, Kenneth D. Merry wrote: > The original poster's speed problems are due to the speed of the drive, and > have nothing to do with the controller. Just because a drive's bus speed > is 40MB/sec doesn't mean the heads/media can push the bits that fast. The > Barracuda 9 is a fairly old drive, but I would think it would be able to do > more than 5MB/sec. Oops, I meant ".5MB/sec". Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 16 1:13:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dart.sr.se (dart.SR.SE [193.12.91.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B22181524B for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:13:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: from honken.sr.se ([134.25.128.27]) by dart.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA59588; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 10:13:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: from pluto.sr.se (pluto.SR.SE [134.25.193.91]) by honken.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA33497; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 10:13:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: (from gunnar@localhost) by pluto.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA14397; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 10:13:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gunnar) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 10:13:37 +0100 From: Gunnar Flygt To: Danny Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Problem with Ports and Firewall Message-ID: <20000116101336.A14184@sr.se> Reply-To: Gunnar Flygt References: <3.0.32.20000116114130.00693890@idx.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20000116114130.00693890@idx.com.au>; from dannyh@idx.com.au on Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 11:41:35AM +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 11:41:35AM +1100, Danny wrote: > Hello, > > Currently > > -Running FreeBSD 3.3 > - KDE (defualt with 3.3) > - behind winproxy > > Situation > > - when you run the ports it should > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/somewhere/somefile.tgz > - Because I am behind a firewall obviously ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/ etc > doesn't exist I'm behind a firewall, and I use the environment variables: FTP_PROXY=name.of.proxy HTTP_PROXY=name.of.proxy:portnumber FTP_PASSWORD=myemailaddress@my.domain > - My Firewall IP address is 192.168.0.1 and the port is 21 > > Question > > 1) How can I get ports to work with the firewall? > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- __o regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 16 1:15:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846B115226 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:15:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA25810; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:08:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:08:50 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Dementsov Alexey Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I have question Message-ID: <20000116010850.Z508@fw.wintelcom.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from aledem@chat.ru on Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 11:29:16AM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Dementsov Alexey [000116 00:52] wrote: > I would be very grateful if you could give some information about > configuration ppp for remote access from Microsoft client to FreeBSD > server. What _specifically_ do you need help with? What have you tried and been unable to accomplish? -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 16 1:49:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sblake.comcen.com.au (sblake.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E2B14FCF for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:49:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aunty@sblake.comcen.com.au) Received: (from aunty@localhost) by sblake.comcen.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA14948 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 20:50:34 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from aunty) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 20:50:34 +1100 From: aunty To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: login class and bash clash? Message-ID: <20000116205034.C14280@comcen.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On a -STABLE system I'm trying to set up a staff class with, among other things, a different default path. (Easy to maintain, and not so likely to be edited away by novice wheel members.) After logging in, the environment seems to be that in /etc/profile instead of the one set for the class. Everyone uses the bash shell. The staff users' home directories contain neither .profile nor .bash* When the user's shell is set to csh they do get the environment that is set up for the class, as intended. But they must have bash. This line from login(1) might be hinting at an explanation for my puzzle, but if so I'd need it filled out a bit: The standard shells, csh(1) and sh(1), do not fork before executing the login utility. I suppose it'd be possible to maintain a .bash_profile in their home directories to ovveride /etc/profile, but using login.class is neater. Am I reading the situation correctly? Maybe I should remove /etc/profile (is it necessary?) and use the other class definitions to replace some of what /etc/profile sets up. Or read something. Or something. Suggestions? -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 16 2:56:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from willamette.cbn.net.id (willamette.cbn.net.id [202.158.3.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8631F1525C for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 02:56:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from m4v3r1ck@bigfoot.com) Received: (qmail 51559 invoked by uid 1016); 16 Jan 2000 17:56:50 +0700 Received: from unknown (HELO mona.viper.com) (202.158.30.38) by willamette.cbn.net.id with SMTP; 16 Jan 2000 17:56:50 +0700 Received: (qmail 2306 invoked by uid 1001); 16 Jan 2000 10:37:50 -0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 17:37:50 +0700 From: John Indra To: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: No color in xterm Message-ID: <20000116173750.A2282@bigfoot.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Homepage: http://www.bigfoot.com/~m4v3r1ck X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i on FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi list readers... I have Mutt 1.0i installed on my FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE, compiled against S-Lang 1.3.10. In consoles, Mutt shows color just fine, but when I run Mutt on an xterm, it doesn't show color at all. This behaviour happens to Midnight Commander too... An just FYI... when I use gnuls - --color=auto, xterm seems to render the color, just like the one I have on consoles... How can I make my Mutt shows color on xterm? TIA Regards, John Indra -- ICQ UIN #26095019 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: Be the best! iD8DBQE4gZ9+xcp0HIxafmQRAiirAKCgzZ/VdnK9zAZdai2xEhUm/9wU3gCggtw5 Yyfgy+L+ZHuqsBlRAYfNMYA= =VjlZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 16 2:56:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from willamette.cbn.net.id (willamette.cbn.net.id [202.158.3.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 095241526A for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 02:56:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from m4v3r1ck@bigfoot.com) Received: (qmail 51565 invoked by uid 1016); 16 Jan 2000 17:56:52 +0700 Received: from unknown (HELO mona.viper.com) (202.158.30.38) by willamette.cbn.net.id with SMTP; 16 Jan 2000 17:56:52 +0700 Received: (qmail 2408 invoked by uid 1001); 16 Jan 2000 10:55:05 -0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 17:55:05 +0700 From: John Indra To: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Xfstt tends to be zombie... Message-ID: <20000116175505.A2366@bigfoot.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Homepage: http://www.bigfoot.com/~m4v3r1ck X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i on FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi list readers... I'm trying to run Xfstt 1.0 on my FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE box... I compiled it from the ports, and it installed and run perfectly, except, when I try to use it =( For example, I use Netscape Navigator 4.7 (from the 1st CD) to use Arial fonts that come with Windows 98. Netscape always hung, and when I run top, I see 1 zombie process, which is Xfstt =( It doesn't happen only on Netscape, it seems to be happening to all apps which I instruct to render TrueType fonts using Xfstt as the engine... I can be positive that this is not and installation and usage problem, cause I've been using it with my Red Hat Linux 6.0 without any problem. Is there a compatibility problem between Xfstt and FreeBSD? How can I fix this? Is there another way I can use TrueType fonts without Xfstt? Is this related to SysV primitive memory stuffs? I have these on my kernel config: options SYSVSHM options SYSVMSG options SYSVSEM options "SHMMAXPGS=8192" My RAM is 48 megs... Oh yeah... XMMS seems to have a problem with FreeBSD too... Here's a snapshot from my /var/log/messages: Jan 15 12:32:41 mona /kernel: cmd xmms pid 11121 tried to use non-present sched_ getscheduler And weirdly, whenever I run XMMS, Enlightenment seems to have problem with it's translucent move behaviour. Translucent move is not working while I run XMMS... I really love FreeBSD and want to use it as my desktop OS, how can I solve this problem, and can anyone tell me how this problem arrive? Thanks a bunch... Regards, John Indra -- ICQ UIN #26095019 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: Be the best! iD8DBQE4gaOJxcp0HIxafmQRAjEZAKCtjTDUz2e5JgdOBWWcxh9ZMIXHSQCg3D5H 45BQ9YGvlXaHzHbONr8IzCw= =LOK4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 16 4:48: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from scotty.masternet.it (scotty.masternet.it [194.184.65.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B2A15077 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 04:48:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gmarco@scotty.masternet.it) Received: from suzy (modem37.masternet.it [194.184.65.47]) by scotty.masternet.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27046; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 13:47:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gmarco@scotty.masternet.it) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000116134504.00aec4f0@194.184.65.4> X-Sender: gmarco@scotty.masternet.it X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 13:46:17 +0100 To: John Indra , FreeBSD Questions List From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Subject: Re: No color in xterm In-Reply-To: <20000116173750.A2282@bigfoot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 16/01/00, John Indra wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Hi list readers... > >I have Mutt 1.0i installed on my FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE, compiled against >S-Lang 1.3.10. In consoles, Mutt shows color just fine, but when I run >Mutt on an xterm, it doesn't show color at all. This behaviour happens >to Midnight Commander too... An just FYI... when I use gnuls >- --color=auto, xterm seems to render the color, just like the one I have >on consoles... > >How can I make my Mutt shows color on xterm? try: xterm -tn xterm-color Hope it helps... Best Regards, Gianmarco Giovannelli , "Unix expert since yesterday" http://www.giovannelli.it/~gmarco http://www2.masternet.it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 16 5:30:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 608) id CAD4E14EAF; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 05:30:22 -0800 (PST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: possible mail loop Message-Id: <20000116133022.CAD4E14EAF@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 05:30:22 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Some people are reporting a mail loop on freebsd-questions at freebsd.org. the test list does not suffer from this problem. the configuration files and subscriber list appear to be correct. therefore, i am resorting to sending a test email to the list to see if that triggers the reported mail loop. the loop has been reported on freebsd-stable as well, a list with 2232 subscribers. questions has only 1348, so it becomes the test case. please forgive this content free message. jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Core Team, Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--The Power to Serve JMB193 http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 16 5:39: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from zeus.dnt.md (dnt.md [195.138.124.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55FD15176 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 05:39:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sl@dnt.md) Received: from localhost (sl@localhost) by zeus.dnt.md (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA49287 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:39:02 +0200 (EET) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:39:02 +0200 (EET) From: Veaceslav Revutchi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: description of IP connections states Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Does anyone know where I can find descriptions of the Active Internet connections states displayed with netstat -an (e.g.TIME_WAIT,FIN_WAIT_1,FIN_WAIT_2 etc.) ? thank you, Veaceslav. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 16 5:43:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28C01515B for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 05:43:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA53459; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 08:43:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 08:43:05 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Hovey To: Nathan Stratton Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web based email In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a vote against (dmail's stuff doesnt handle attachments right - it doesnt encrypt/descript correctly) On Sat, 15 Jan 2000, Nathan Stratton wrote: > > I am looking for a web based email package that will run on freebsd, > something like a AOL interface, but it needs IMAP support. Any ideas? > > ><> > Nathan Stratton > nathan@robotics.net > http://www.robotics.net > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 16 5:55:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from yana.lemis.com (yana.lemis.com [192.109.197.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF0E14DBF for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 05:55:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com) Received: from mojave.worldwide.lemis.com (m15.chn.vsnl.net.in [202.54.43.210] (may be forged)) by yana.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA00737; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:25:11 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by mojave.worldwide.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA04889; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 19:05:20 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 19:05:20 +0530 From: Greg Lehey To: Tyler Barnett Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CCD recovery questions Message-ID: <20000116190520.P3413@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com> Reply-To: Greg Lehey References: <200001130307.WAA78568@heathers.stdio.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200001130307.WAA78568@heathers.stdio.com>; from tbarnett@stdio.com on Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 10:07:09PM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] Please limit your messages to < 80 characters per line (unless you're quoting verbatim output). On Wednesday, 12 January 2000 at 22:07:09 -0500, Tyler Barnett wrote: > I'm running 3.3 stable, and created a 12GB CCD mirror from 2 > identical disk drives. > > To test the scenario of one of them failing, I shutdown the system > and unplugged one. During boot the ccd driver refused to config it. > The system dropped into single-user mode for an fsck. Fun, isn't it? This is a "feature" of ccd. Vinum would handle this situation correctrly. > I tried removing the "unplugged" disk drive from the ccd.conf line, > effectively meaning that ccd0 had only 1 disk drive (the working > one). It didn't work, still wanted to fsck. That should have worked. You'll still need to reconfigure, which implies rebooting. Possibly you told ccd that it still had a mirror. > I still haven't brought myself to test the scenario of unplugging a > drive "hot", and seeing what happens :-) You'll crash the ccd. > I'm not getting a warm fuzzy feeling about this. Unless I can > figure out how to separate the ccd mirror, or run on 1 drive alone > for a short period of time, I think I just statistically have halved > the MTBF of either drive. And recovery from a drive failure as such > seems impossible. Agreed. > BTW, I've used Solstice on Solaris (please no flames) and it has > saved my bacon on a mirror failure. Otherwise, the FBSD ccd works > just fine. I just want to know what to do when it doesn't. Move to vinum. I don't see any advantage in ccd any more. Check out vinum(4), vinum(8) and http://www.lemis.com/vinum.html. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 16 5:56:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from yana.lemis.com (yana.lemis.com [192.109.197.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A58214CA0 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 05:56:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com) Received: from mojave.worldwide.lemis.com (m15.chn.vsnl.net.in [202.54.43.210] (may be forged)) by yana.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA00749; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:26:09 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by mojave.worldwide.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA04750; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 18:37:57 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 18:37:57 +0530 From: Greg Lehey To: Shino Cc: Freebsd-Questions Subject: Re: picobsd routed netbeui tcpdump Message-ID: <20000116183757.K3413@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com> Reply-To: Greg Lehey References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from shino@hakkenden.com on Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 10:13:00AM -0600 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 11 January 2000 at 10:13:00 -0600, Shino wrote: > I have several router boxes running freebsd RouteD. I thought > routed only passed tcp packets but I am seeing netbeui and ipx > packets as well… This character at the end of the line (0x85) is invalid for the character set. You should check your mailer (Microsoft Outlook) which is notorious for this sort of thing. > stuff I would only expect to see in a bridge situation. Any > thoughts on why routed might be passing netbeui packets? Well, routed doesn't pass data, it just tells the system where to send them. If the NETBEUI is encapsulated in IP (which I don't think it has to be) then it will be routed the same as any others. Is this not what you want? > Secondarily would tcpdump catch netbeui packets or just tcp packets? By default, tcpdump catches all network traffic. You can tell it to limit to specific data. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 16 6: 2:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from willamette.cbn.net.id (willamette.cbn.net.id [202.158.3.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE9F61521D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 06:02:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from m4v3r1ck@bigfoot.com) Received: (qmail 73027 invoked by uid 1016); 16 Jan 2000 21:02:39 +0700 Received: from unknown (HELO mona.viper.com) (202.158.30.58) by willamette.cbn.net.id with SMTP; 16 Jan 2000 21:02:39 +0700 Received: (qmail 5467 invoked by uid 1001); 16 Jan 2000 14:00:22 -0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 21:00:21 +0700 From: John Indra To: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: No color in xterm Message-ID: <20000116210021.A5420@bigfoot.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions List References: <20000116173750.A2282@bigfoot.com> <4.2.0.58.20000116134504.00aec4f0@194.184.65.4> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000116134504.00aec4f0@194.184.65.4>; from gmarco@scotty.masternet.it on Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 01:46:17PM +0100 X-Homepage: http://www.bigfoot.com/~m4v3r1ck X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i on FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 01:46:17PM +0100, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: | xterm -tn xterm-color | Hope it helps... Thanks... it works! ;) Now, how can I make xterm-color as the default $TERM whenever I invoke xterm-alike programs? Regards, John Indra -- ICQ UIN #26095019 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: Be the best! iD8DBQE4gc71xcp0HIxafmQRAtxgAJ0Xr4adJBq5kXFWRRRiZgGo5xGvUACffWFW 19s2PSV7kfs787oyrRVhxDk= =lbn7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 16 6:13:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 608) id 68F2A1522C; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 06:13:55 -0800 (PST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" To: sl@dnt.md Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Veaceslav Revutchi on Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:39:02 +0200 (EET)) Subject: Re: description of IP connections states Message-Id: <20000116141355.68F2A1522C@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 06:13:55 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG try an internet search engine such as www.google.com. you might find this url particularly useful: http://www.cs.wvu.edu/~tmont/notes5.html these states are explained fully in Richard Stevens book _TCP/IP_Illustrated_ _Volume_1_. you can also get an explaination in RFC 793. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 16 6:31:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0578814A14 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 06:31:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id PAA29538 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:31:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA50305 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 13:27:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: No color in xterm Date: 16 Jan 2000 13:27:44 +0100 Message-ID: <85sdg0$1h3o$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> References: <20000116173750.A2282@bigfoot.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Indra wrote: > I have Mutt 1.0i installed on my FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE, compiled against > S-Lang 1.3.10. In consoles, Mutt shows color just fine, but when I run > Mutt on an xterm, it doesn't show color at all. Presumably the program checks the termcap entry and doesn't find any indication of color support there. Try TERM=xterm-color. > when I use gnuls --color=auto, xterm seems to render the color, That blows out ANSI color control sequences without any regard whatsoever for the actual terminal type. xterm indeed renders those. 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Someone who has been educated past his/her level of intelligence. --------------6E29C23247F082024CCC3A3D Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dementsov Alexey wrote:
I would be very grateful if you could give some information about
configuration ppp for remote access from Microsoft client to FreeBSD
server.
 
The following link should provide you with everything you need to know.

http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ppp/index.html 




-- 
Walter

in·tel·lec·tu·al (ntl-kch-l) 
n.      Someone who has been educated past his/her level of intelligence.

 

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David Kelly  writes:

> > FBSD complaints about a dirty /tmp filesystem (/mnt is not on a
> > separate fs) so / cannot be mounted R/W and the system boot in single
> > mode. If i do a 'mount -f -orw /' then a ^D, the system goes in normal
> > mode and i can work as usual... Obviously, i've done multiple fsck on
> > /, but the pb remains...
> 
> You said its complaining about a dirty /tmp filesystem. But then you 
> say you have run fsck on /. You have a separate filesystem for /tmp? 
> Then run "fsck -y /tmp". Running fsck on / doesn't recurse the entire 
> system, it does only root.

Oops ! sorry for the typo : you should read "FBSD complaints about a
dirty /mnt filesystem" and, no, /mnt is not a separate fs : hence my
pb...

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I am trying to move/copy files from one NFS mounted volume to a local
volume. These are files owned by a variety of users but when moved the
ownership is not carried with the file.  So when I move the files as root,
the ownership of the new files is changed from the original owner to root
and and mode is changed to 664. 

The NFS server is novell with Netware NFS (hence the need to move the files).

I have tried to tar the files first (with -p) and have tried dump as well.
Any ideas on how I can move these files and still keep the permissions?

Peace,
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i just got a freebsd 3.3 some weeks ago, but it was kinda hard to =
use....  it is currently installed in my old computer so i can learn how =
to use it without interrupting my school work (i'm just a high school =
student) =20

i was wondering, however, if there was a news letters that can teach =
novice, like myself, to use unix or define terms 'n uses in unix...  (i =
still don't understand where or how to use vi or emacs...  i mean, what =
r they for?  r they like edit.com in dos?  oh, 'n they are only 2 out of =
million things i am confused about...)

sorry to trouble you...  i'm just really excited to have unix which =
sounds so legendary, yet very frustrated because i can't use it....  =
thanx a lot for reading thus far...

have a nice day ^^


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i just got a freebsd 3.3 some weeks ago, but it was =
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to use....  it is currently installed in my old computer so i can =
learn how=20
to use it without interrupting my school work (i'm just a high school=20
student)  


 


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letters that can=20
teach novice, like myself, to use unix or define terms 'n uses in =
unix... =20
(i still don't understand where or how to use vi or emacs...  i =
mean, what=20
r they for?  r they like edit.com in dos?  oh, 'n they are =
only 2 out=20
of million things i am confused about...)


 


sorry to trouble you...  i'm just really =
excited to have=20
unix which sounds so legendary, yet very frustrated because i can't use=20
it....  thanx a lot for reading thus far...


 


have a nice day ^^


 


 


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John Indra wrote:
> Here's a snapshot from my /var/log/messages:
> Jan 15 12:32:41 mona /kernel: cmd xmms pid 11121 tried to use
> non-present sched_ getscheduler

Try enabling the realtime posix extensions for your kernel.

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I've been playing around with FreeBSD a little, but have been waiting 
the arrival of a new SCSI disk which I wanted to share with linux and 
FreeBSD for doing a proper install.  I'm currently using FreeBSD 3.3.

After doing a "successful installation", leaving a small ext2fs "/boot"
partition for linux, I find the "boot loader", although offering 2 options
of F1 linux, F2 FreeBSD doesn't boot either system (linux won't work, I've
just allocated space for installing later).

The Partition Editor has setup the space as follows:

da0s1 34784 blocks, ext2fs will be used for /boot for linux
da0s2 is the FreeBSD slice with 2GB and has Freebsd correctly installed.
the rest is unused.

I've rebuilt the kernel for the SMP machine I'm using and to use the
AHA2940 SCSI driver, da0

I can boot into the system from the FreeBSD boot disk, telling it to boot
0:da(0,a)kernel.

What file/command should I be looking at to check the configuration
options of the FreeBSD boot loader to see why it doesn't correctly boot
from the SCSI disk?  (Note this machine currently has no IDE disks, and no
other SCSI disks.)

Sorry for the newbie question, I don't feel like a newbie in linux, but in
FreeBSD I'm still learning the ropes.

Regards,

Simon
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Well, all I can say is, do you have a switch or a hub?  If you have a hub,
odds are that it doesn't support full-duplex in the 1st place and that's why
you are getting really poor performance.

Try forcing the cards to half-duplex and see what happens.

-Chris

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Hi,

I have a little network at home consisting of my
FreeBSD-3.4-STABLE box (a PIII-500) and a Windows-NT 4.0 box (a
Celeron-400).  Since there are only two machines, I use a
crossover cable instead of a hub or switch.

In a recent fit of upgrading, I replaced the 10-baseT (PCI) cards in
each machine with a pair of 100-baseTX RealTek-8139 cards.  I
was pleased that everything just seemed to work, but I've just
tried to test the performance, and to say that it's short of
stellar is an understatement.

I have a 16M file in my home directory (FreeBSD), and two
successive command-line FTP fetches on the NT box resulted in
transfer rates of 70.02k and 99k.  Yes, "k".  I tried using the
"copy /b" command, and gave up timing after five minutes.

Where can I look to try to debug what is obviously a problem?

Here's a bit of representative output from a
netstat -I rl0 -b -w 5

command, while the copy/b was in progress:

            input          (rl0)           output
   packets  errs      bytes    packets  errs      bytes colls
        42     0       2636         81     0     118620     0
        41     0       2692         71     0     100806     0
        37     0       2336         72     0     104994     0
        30     0       1916         57     0      80944     0
        32     0       2152         57     0      80950     0
        58     0       3712         97     0     141510     0
        40     0       2516         72     0     104994     0
        35     0       2216         64     0      92882     0

Here's the output of
ifconfig rl0:

rl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
        inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 10.255.255.255
        ether 00:48:54:50:52:83
        media: 100baseTX 
        supported media: autoselect 100baseTX  100baseTX
 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP  10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP


Hmm  That's interesting.  Shouldn't the flags say DUPLEX instead
of SIMPLEX when the media is in full-duplex mode?

Here's some /var/log/messages output related to rl0:

Jan  6 13:35:51 gurney /kernel: rl0:  rev 0x10
int a irq 9 on pci0.10.0
Jan  6 13:35:51 gurney /kernel: rl0: Ethernet address: 00:48:54:50:52:83
Jan  6 13:35:51 gurney /kernel: rl0: autoneg not complete, no carrier
Jan  6 13:35:51 gurney /kernel: rl0: selecting MII, 100Mbps, half duplex
Jan  6 13:35:51 gurney /kernel: rl0: selecting MII, 100Mbps, full duplex

in rc.conf I have:
ifconfig_rl0="inet 10.0.0.1 media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex"

Unfortunately I know even less about NT networking than I do
Unix networking, so I don't know where to start, for checking
the NT end of the link.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions,

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TONY SIM wrote:

> i just got a freebsd 3.3 some weeks ago, but it was kinda hard to
> use....  it is currently installed in my old computer so i can learn
> how to use it without interrupting my school work (i'm just a high
> school student) i was wondering, however, if there was a news letters
> that can teach novice, like myself, to use unix or define terms 'n
> uses in unix...  (i still don't understand where or how to use vi or
> emacs...  i mean, what r they for?  r they like edit.com in dos?  oh,
> 'n they are only 2 out of million things i am confused about...) sorry
> to trouble you...  i'm just really excited to have unix which sounds
> so legendary, yet very frustrated because i can't use it....  thanx a
> lot for reading thus far... have a nice day ^^  ======================
>
> ¾ðÀ糪 ¿ô´Â ¾ó±¼·Î...
> ªÀº »î, Àç¹ÌÀÖ°Ô...±×ÁÒ?
>
> to get that "warm n' fuzzy feeling" that you're looking for, you had
> better be willing to read.  it takes time, but in a short time, you'll
> have the basics down pat. subscribing to this list is a good way to
> learn. just look at the topics and read those which you think may
> apply to you and learn from the answers that others give.  don't be
> afraid to try new things on your machine, especially since it's on a
> second machine.  Some places to start are:
>  Read http://www.freebsad.org/handbook
>             http://www.freebsdrocks.com/
>             http://daily.daemonnews.org
>
> there are other sites too, but these are good places to start as they
> have many relevant links to follow. "The Complete FreeBSD" , 3rd
> Edition,  by Greg Lehey, is a good book to have handy in case your
> online resources are not available at the time (isp's do not have 100%
> functionality).
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>
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WindowMaker was nice, but the reason I dropped it (drums, please)....
I want that bar on the bottom I can choose what window I want from.
Seriously, when I have 10 windows open, it's a real pain (you know
where) finding the one you need without that bar. When the selection
came between KDE and GNOME, I picked GNOME because (drums again)...
GTK looks nicer than QT. Seriously, GNOME is a whole lot more stable
now, and offers about the same features as KDE, so there is no big
difference.

Just my $.02, though I probably haven't said anything useful here.

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Chris.Smith@raytheon.co.uk wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Here are my views
> 
> > Thanks, Nils, you asked the same question I was about to ask.  However, I
> > have an additional criterion.  Are any of these systems establishing
> > themselves as standards?  I know of Gnome and kde, and that Redhat has
> just
> > dropped kde for Gnome which presumably gives Gnome an edge, but how are
> the
> > camps dividing themselves among FBSD users?
> 
> RedHat have far from dropped KDE from their installation.  The latest 6.1
> installation allows a 'KDE' desktop to be installed rather that 6.0's Gnome
> one and without pissing around for 2 hours with switchdesk.  There also
> appears to be a _huge_ amount of commercial backing for KDE from various
> sources.  Gnome looks nice, but it's hardly stable and not very practical.
> I personally dumped both of them for the raw speed and power of
> WindowMaker.  So it doesnt have a native file manager?  So it doesnt have
> feature x and y.  It has so many more good points:-
> 
>      1. It's rock solid
>      2. It'll run speedily on a P90
>      3. It's easy to use - not overcomplicated like the win9x/2000/gnome
> desktop
>      4. It's simpler than most and therefore less bugs.
>      5. It's very customisable.
> 
> This is my view, but I'd recommend KDE as a good second and possible a
> first for new UNIX users.  I wouldnt recommend RedHat though for anyone.
> It's got more holes than a seive.
> 
> Regarding standards, KDE has adopted it's own 'standard' known as
> KOM/OpenParts (I think).  Gnome uses an existing standard but it's a
> 'commercial style' one which I dont like.  I compare it to Microsoft DCOM
> which is foul and should be burned at the stake :o)
> 
> Chris Smith
> Raytheon Systems Limited
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Wim Elhorst wrote:

> John Indra wrote:
> > Here's a snapshot from my /var/log/messages:
> > Jan 15 12:32:41 mona /kernel: cmd xmms pid 11121 tried to use
> > non-present sched_ getscheduler
>
> Try enabling the realtime posix extensions for your kernel.
>
> -wim
>

Just to follow up, here's the line the kernel contents that wim
suggested:

# Bonus for making this use POSIX scheduling control and better
# scheduling. I added this for use with /usr/ports/audio/cdrdao
# Star Office also requires it.
options                 "P1003_1B"
options                 "_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING"
options                 "_KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L"

i have this in mine and xmms works fine here. as for your doubt of the
desktop, you should check out some of the other window managers. i'm not
going to start a flame war by recommending one,
*cough*windowmaker*cough* but i can say that depending on your x11
server, the resolution you run it at, and the number of apps you run at
any given time, you should look for less resource-demanding wm's...
ram's cheap too.
-Otter


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> Compaq controllers are intended by Compaq to only be used in Compaq
> servers.  Under some circumstances you might get lucky otherwise, but as a
> general rule you can forget using them in any other system.

I´ve never had a non-Compaq system that wouldn´t accept my Smart2
controller.

All you need to do is download the SP6263 from the compaq website, create 2
floppies, and then you can boot of these 2 floppies to configure the RAID
controller.

I tried contacting the freebsd-doc mailinglist, because I wanted to make
some notes on how to use the Compaq equipment in Compaq servers and non
Compaq servers, but noone answered my letters, so I guess its not
interesting to get such an add-on to the faq or handbook.

I would then explain how to install BSD onto the controller, how to
configure the controller on non CPQ systems, and later try to make a package
wheneven I managed to get the Array config utility to work under fx wine.



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hi,

I am in the process of comverting my linux machine to a freebsd machine, the
problem is that i have one large ext2 filesystem that i cant convert to
freebsd right now, I dont have anywhere to put all this data.

I had a powerfailure, ext2fs got dirty, and now needs a fsck, but i cant find
any fsck for FreeBSD that supports linux ext2fs.  On the list archives someone
mentioned that they did get it compiled with a one line patch, but from what I
can see making it works is quite a bit more involved than just that.

any help appreciated,

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Windows isn't that retarded, it doesn't send incorrect IP headers out onto
the wire. Is your router connected to a hub at your ISP/uplink?

Omachonu Ogali
Intranova Networking Group

On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:

> > If you're connected to a hub then that means someone else on that hub has
> > address space in that area, otherwise, something's barfing on you.
> 
> It's just windblows braindamage, it likes to send netbios IP traffic
> to really strange IP addresses using really strange source addresses
> some times.
> 
> Easy fix is to drop all any 138 to any 138, and any 137 to any 137,
> unless your fool enough to want to run netbios over the internet,
> in which case you'll have to allow some specifc IP's to work.
> 
> > 
> > Omachonu Ogali
> > Intranova Networking Group
> > 
> > On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Brian Gallucci wrote:
> > 
> > > This is really weird ->
> > > 
> > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:138 216.174.91.31:138 in via xl0
> > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:138 216.174.91.31:138 in via xl0
> > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:138 216.174.91.31:138 in via xl0
> > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:138 216.174.91.31:138 in via xl0
> > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:137 216.174.91.31:137 in via xl0
> > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:137 216.174.91.31:137 in via xl0
> > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:137 216.174.91.31:137 in via xl0
> > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:137 216.174.91.31:137 in via xl0
> > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:138 216.174.91.31:138 in via xl0
> > > 
> > > We don't own any address space on 216.174.91.0 at all !!
> > > 
> > > Can someone tell what this means ??? Am I missing something..
> > > 
> > > I think it should look something like - >
> > > 
> > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP " OUR ADDRESS ":138 216.174.91.31:138 in via xl0
> > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP " OUR ADDRESS ":138 216.174.91.31:138 in via xl0
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > -Brian
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> 
> -- 
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sun Jan 16  9:26:47 2000
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Do 'ipfw show' and look at the allow all rule (if you have one).

Omachonu Ogali
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2000, Yung Yi wrote:

> Hi.
>=20
> Is there any tools or programs in FreeBSD that
> can show the statistics that how much traffic it handles when it is used =
as a router?
>=20
> N=85'=B2=E6=ECr=B8=9B{=EB=1E=9D=D9=9A=8A[h=99=A8=E8=AD=DA&=A0Z=DEx=14=83=
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> > > I have a 200 MHz K6 system (FBSD 3.2), Adaptec 2940UW SCSI-adaptor and Seagate
> > > ST19171W Hard disk. The Seagate (Barracuda 9) disk is specced to up to 40
> > > Mbytes/sec Max sync. SCSI transfer rate. But whatever tests I run (copying
> > > large files to and fro, dd from disk to /dev/null for example) the actual speed
> > > is never more than around 0.5 MB/s according to 'systat -io 1' or 'systat -vm
> > > 1'.
> > > Is there a knob to turn to speed it up or is this a bottleneck due to the
> > > processor?



I'm just tuning into the thread, so please forgive me if this has been
asked, but has it been verified at boot up (thru dmesg) that the drives
are even negotiating the appropriate speed connection?  Last drive I had
that was "slow" gave the techies some kinda hint at what was wrong due to
the fact taht it couldn't negotiate at boot up.  I can't recall what it
was off hand though.  Also, are the appropriate speeds set in the SCSI
Bios too?  Again, I apologize if those q's have already been asked...

---John



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".Chris Grady" wrote:
> 
> I know this is a really stupid question but what else would you expect from
> and NT guy. (please don't laugh when you read this.)
> 
> I am beginning the long process of ridding myself of Microsoft products and
> at the core of my systems I plan to implement 100% FreeBSD. I have been
> unable to find any books related to FreeBSD. I know it is suppose to be a
> port of the original UCB UNIX but does that mean that I can get a book on
> UNIX administration and apply that knowledge to a FreeBSD OS running on a
> quad zeon or PIII server with Level 5 Raid?
>
> Also, I have been doing quite a bit of research and have decided on the
> following setup for a large database driven web service that we will be
> undertaking and releasing under the General Public License. I would like any
> input you have on the following core system I plan to implement.
> 
> OS: FreeBSD
> Web Server: Apache Jserv & mod_perl & possibly (EMBPerl)
> Database: Oracle 8.X
>

You might want to look into PHP, an embedded server-side scripting
language (http://www.php.net/) and MySQL, a free relational database in
ports (http://www.mysql.com/).  Whatever you choose, you will be happy. 
My experience shows that FreeBSD is much happier under load than NT. 
 
> DNS: FreeBSD running BIND
>


 
> Also, there is no User Group in Washington D.C. and we would like to start
> one. I am currently an active member with several user groups involved with
> the Windows NT technology including NTServer, Visual Interdev User Group
> (WAVI), and MSSQL  User group. I Know of several dozen individuals that are
> currently looking for alternatives to Micro$oft system. Please let me know
> what I need to do to establish the Washington D.C. FreeBSD user group.
> 
> Thanks for you help in advance.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Chris Grady
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> TONY SIM wrote:
> 
> i just got a freebsd 3.3 some weeks ago, but it was kinda hard to
> use....  it is currently installed in my old computer so i can learn
> how to use it without interrupting my school work (i'm just a high
> school student)
> 
> i was wondering, however, if there was a news letters that can teach
> novice, like myself, to use unix or define terms 'n uses in unix...
> (i still don't understand where or how to use vi or emacs...  i mean,
> what r they for?  r they like edit.com in dos?  oh, 'n they are only 2
> out of million things i am confused about...)
> 
> sorry to trouble you...  i'm just really excited to have unix which
> sounds so legendary, yet very frustrated because i can't use it....
> thanx a lot for reading thus far...
> 
> have a nice day ^^
Tony,
You have to learn Unix pretty much the way you learned Windows. First,
see if you can find someone that knows Unix, and ask them to help.
Second, experiment. And of course, read the documentation. If you have
trouble finding the documents on your machine, you can get them online.
Try this for starters:
http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html
There is an e-mail list for newbies. Send e-mail to
majordomo@freebsd.org with the following line (and only this line) in
the body:
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Here are a few pointers to help you get started.
Nearly all "commands" live in directories named "bin" for example,
/usr/bin and /usr/local/bin. The following list of commands will help
you out.
whatis  --This command will give you a brief description of what a
command does. Example: whatis vi
more    --This command is used to read text files one page at a time.
Works a lot like type | more in dos. Example: more /COPYRIGHT
man	--This command will give you the manual page for all kinds of
things. To find out more type man man

Good luck!
-- 
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Blake Swensen wrote:
> 
> I am trying to move/copy files from one NFS mounted volume to a local
> volume. These are files owned by a variety of users but when moved the
> ownership is not carried with the file.  So when I move the files as root,
> the ownership of the new files is changed from the original owner to root
> and and mode is changed to 664.

Do a man on cp and pay attention to the "-p" option. I normally use
-Rp. I usually don't have symbolic links in the areas that I am
copying.

Kent

> 
> The NFS server is novell with Netware NFS (hence the need to move the files).
> 
> I have tried to tar the files first (with -p) and have tried dump as well.
> Any ideas on how I can move these files and still keep the permissions?
> 
> Peace,
> Blake
> 
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> Windows isn't that retarded, it doesn't send incorrect IP headers out onto
> the wire. Is your router connected to a hub at your ISP/uplink?

Yes windows is that retarded.  And no these are not comming from the ISP
upstream.  I've seen enough of these in tcpdumps that I some times bother
to track down the MAC they come from and fix the windblows network
configuration to eliminate them, though that has become tedious so I just
drop them on the floor at routers now.

> 
> Omachonu Ogali
> Intranova Networking Group
> 
> On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
> 
> > > If you're connected to a hub then that means someone else on that hub has
> > > address space in that area, otherwise, something's barfing on you.
> > 
> > It's just windblows braindamage, it likes to send netbios IP traffic
> > to really strange IP addresses using really strange source addresses
> > some times.
> > 
> > Easy fix is to drop all any 138 to any 138, and any 137 to any 137,
> > unless your fool enough to want to run netbios over the internet,
> > in which case you'll have to allow some specifc IP's to work.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Omachonu Ogali
> > > Intranova Networking Group
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Brian Gallucci wrote:
> > > 
> > > > This is really weird ->
> > > > 
> > > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:138 216.174.91.31:138 in via xl0
> > > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:138 216.174.91.31:138 in via xl0
> > > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:138 216.174.91.31:138 in via xl0
> > > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:138 216.174.91.31:138 in via xl0
> > > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:137 216.174.91.31:137 in via xl0
> > > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:137 216.174.91.31:137 in via xl0
> > > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:137 216.174.91.31:137 in via xl0
> > > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:137 216.174.91.31:137 in via xl0
> > > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:138 216.174.91.31:138 in via xl0
> > > > 
> > > > We don't own any address space on 216.174.91.0 at all !!
> > > > 
> > > > Can someone tell what this means ??? Am I missing something..
> > > > 
> > > > I think it should look something like - >
> > > > 
> > > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP " OUR ADDRESS ":138 216.174.91.31:138 in via xl0
> > > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP " OUR ADDRESS ":138 216.174.91.31:138 in via xl0
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks
> > > > -Brian
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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> > 
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> > Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25)               rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net
> > 
> 
> 


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Hello questions,

  Hi. I've succeeded in creating myself a vinum volume, but am
  wondering on how to get it up automagically, aswell as mount-able
  over NFS. I've tried the following, this output is from straight
  after a boot:

bash-2.02# grep -e start_vinum /etc/rc.conf
start_vinum="YES"

bash-2.02# vinum list
Configuration summary

Drives:         0 (4 configured)
Volumes:        0 (4 configured)
Plexes:         0 (8 configured)
Subdisks:       0 (16 configured)


bash-2.02# dmesg
Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc.
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #3: Mon Dec 13 18:59:30 CET 1999
    rene@messenger:/usr/src/sys/compile/MESSENGER-EXPERIMENTAL
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 233864205 Hz
CPU: Pentium/P55C (233.86-MHz 586-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x543  Stepping=3
  Features=0x8001bf
real memory  = 67043328 (65472K bytes)
avail memory = 62291968 (60832K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02c8000.
Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
chip0:  rev 0x04 on pci0.0.0
chip1:  rev 0x04 on pci0.1.0
chip2:  rev 0x00 on pci0.3.0
chip3:  rev 0xc3 on pci0.7.0
ahc0:  rev 0x00 int a irq 5 on pci0.10.0
ahc0: aic7880 Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs
vga0:  rev 0x01 int a irq 12 on pci0.11.0
xl0: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> rev 0x30 int a irq 10 on pci0.12.0
xl0: Ethernet address: 00:10:5a:c0:33:b3
xl0: autoneg complete, link status good (half-duplex, 100Mbps)
ide_pci0:  rev 0xc1 int a irq 0 on pci0.15.0
Probing for devices on PCI bus 1:
Probing for PnP devices:
CSN 1 Vendor ID: TCM5095 [0x95506d50] Serial 0xaf92f149 Comp ID: @@@0000 [0x00000000]
Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
sc0 on isa
sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard
atkbd0 irq 1 on isa
psm0 not found
sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa
sio1: type 16550A
fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa
wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): 
wd0: 9671MB (19807200 sectors), 19650 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S
wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): 
wd1: 9671MB (19807200 sectors), 19650 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S
wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 flags 0xa0ffa0ff on isa
wdc1: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, iordy
acd0: drive speed 689KB/sec, 128KB cache
acd0: supported read types: CD-DA
acd0: Audio: play, 128 volume levels
acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray
acd0: Medium: CD-ROM unknown medium, unlocked
wt0 not found at 0x300
mcd0 not found at 0x300
matcdc0 not found at 0x230
scd0 not found at 0x230
ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa
ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/7 bytes threshold
lpt0:  on ppbus 0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0:  on ppbus 0
plip0:  on ppbus 0
1 3C5x9 board(s) on ISA found at 0x300
ep0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa
ep0: utp[*UTP*] address 00:20:af:92:f1:49
vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa
npx0 on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
ccd0-3: Concatenated disk drivers
Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
changing root device to da0s1a
da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
da0:  Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da0: 2063MB (4226725 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 263C)
da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0
da1:  Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
da1: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da1: 8715MB (17850000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1111C)
vinum: loaded

bash-2.02# vinum start
bash-2.02# tail /var/log/messages
Jan 16 20:37:30 messenger /kernel: da1:  Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
Jan 16 20:37:30 messenger /kernel: da1: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled
Jan 16 20:37:30 messenger /kernel: da1: 8715MB (17850000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1111C)
Jan 16 20:37:34 messenger sshd[203]: Listener created on port 22.
Jan 16 20:37:34 messenger sshd[204]: Daemon is running.
Jan 16 20:37:48 messenger sshd[227]: log: ROOT LOGIN as 'root' from innerpeace
Jan 16 20:38:00 messenger /kernel: vinum: loaded
Jan 16 20:41:38 messenger /kernel: vinum: reading configuration from /dev/wd1d
Jan 16 20:41:38 messenger /kernel: vinum: updating configuration from /dev/wd0d
Jan 16 20:41:38 messenger /kernel: vinum: updating configuration from /dev/da1d

bash-2.02# vinum list
Configuration summary

Drives:         3 (4 configured)
Volumes:        1 (4 configured)
Plexes:         1 (8 configured)
Subdisks:       3 (16 configured)

D c                     State: up       Device /dev/da1d        Avail: 0/8715 MB (0%)
D a                     State: up       Device /dev/wd0d        Avail: 0/9671 MB (0%)
D b                     State: up       Device /dev/wd1d        Avail: 0/9671 MB (0%)

V myvol                 State: up       Plexes:       1 Size:         27 GB

P myvol.p0            C State: up       Subdisks:     3 Size:         27 GB

S myvol.p0.s0           State: up       PO:        0  B Size:       9671 MB
S myvol.p0.s1           State: up       PO:     9671 MB Size:       9671 MB
S myvol.p0.s2           State: up       PO:       18 GB Size:       8715 MB

bash-2.02# df
Filesystem  1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/da0s1a     31743    24383     4821    83%    /
procfs              4        4        0   100%    /proc
/dev/da0s1f   1853547   632203  1073061    37%    /usr
/dev/da0s1e     29751     2891    24480    11%    /var

bash-2.02# mount /dev/vinum/myvol /mnt/large

bash-2.02# df
Filesystem       1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/da0s1a          31743    24383     4821    83%    /
procfs                   4        4        0   100%    /proc
/dev/da0s1f        1853547   632203  1073061    37%    /usr
/dev/da0s1e          29751     2891    24480    11%    /var
/dev/vinum/myvol  27847756        1 25619935     0%    /mnt/large

bash-2.02# cat /etc/exports
#The following examples export /usr to 3 machines named after ducks,
#/home and all directories under it to machines named after dead rock stars
#and, finally, /a to 2 privileged machines allowed to write on it as root.
#/usr                huey louie dewie
#/home   -alldirs    janice jimmy frank
#/a      -maproot=0  bill albert
#
# You should replace these lines with your actual exported filesystems.
/usr         -alldirs            194.109.23.210
#/mnt/large   -alldirs -maproot=0 194.109.23.210
#/home        -alldirs            194.109.23.210

Now, I'd really, really like to be able to put /mnt/large in my
/etc/exports so that I can access it (straight after booting my
freeBSD box) from my NT machine using NFS. Can anyone nudge me into
the right direction here?

Greetings, 
 rene 




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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sun Jan 16 11:49:52 2000
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Any solutions for getting a linux machine to dump over the network to my
freebsd machine with all the tape devices in it? The FreeBSD machines on
the network do network dumps just fine. The linux machines don't seem to
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i'm trying to get Netscape Navigator 4.7 to run on FreeBSD-current (snapshot
20000114) and am having some trouble.  for some reason, -current didn't
populate the X related aout libraries during install (but i'm guessing 3.3
-stable did since it used to work) so what i need to know is how to i build
and install the aout libraries that netscape needs?

wonko@wintermute.half.com# ldd communicator-4.7.bin
communicator-4.7.bin:
        -lXt.6 => not found (0x0)
        -lXmu.6 => not found (0x0)
        -lXext.6 => not found (0x0)
        -lX11.6 => not found (0x0)
        -lSM.6 => not found (0x0)
        -lICE.6 => not found (0x0)
        -lg++.4 => /usr/lib/compat/aout/libg++.so.4.0 (0x20b67000)
        -lstdc++.2 => /usr/lib/compat/aout/libstdc++.so.2.0 (0x20ba3000)
        -lm.2 => /usr/lib/compat/aout/libm.so.2.0 (0x20bd9000)
        -lc.3 => /usr/lib/compat/aout/libc.so.3.1 (0x20bf3000)

thanks,

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No it's connected to a Cisco 5500 switch.

Thanks
-Brian

----- Original Message -----
From: Omachonu Ogali 
To: Rodney W. Grimes 
Cc: Brian Gallucci ; FreeBSD
; 
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: Hmmm


> Windows isn't that retarded, it doesn't send incorrect IP headers out onto
> the wire. Is your router connected to a hub at your ISP/uplink?
>
> Omachonu Ogali
> Intranova Networking Group
>
> On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
>
> > > If you're connected to a hub then that means someone else on that hub
has
> > > address space in that area, otherwise, something's barfing on you.
> >
> > It's just windblows braindamage, it likes to send netbios IP traffic
> > to really strange IP addresses using really strange source addresses
> > some times.
> >
> > Easy fix is to drop all any 138 to any 138, and any 137 to any 137,
> > unless your fool enough to want to run netbios over the internet,
> > in which case you'll have to allow some specifc IP's to work.
> >
> > >
> > > Omachonu Ogali
> > > Intranova Networking Group
> > >
> > > On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Brian Gallucci wrote:
> > >
> > > > This is really weird ->
> > > >
> > > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:138 216.174.91.31:138 in via xl0
> > > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:138 216.174.91.31:138 in via xl0
> > > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:138 216.174.91.31:138 in via xl0
> > > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:138 216.174.91.31:138 in via xl0
> > > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:137 216.174.91.31:137 in via xl0
> > > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:137 216.174.91.31:137 in via xl0
> > > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:137 216.174.91.31:137 in via xl0
> > > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:137 216.174.91.31:137 in via xl0
> > > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:138 216.174.91.31:138 in via xl0
> > > >
> > > > We don't own any address space on 216.174.91.0 at all !!
> > > >
> > > > Can someone tell what this means ??? Am I missing something..
> > > >
> > > > I think it should look something like - >
> > > >
> > > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP " OUR ADDRESS ":138 216.174.91.31:138 in via xl0
> > > > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP " OUR ADDRESS ":138 216.174.91.31:138 in via xl0
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > -Brian
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25)
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> >
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Most cases of casting things like printf is to shut up lint.

IMHO this is very bad practice, you shouldn't have unneeded symbols.

Just for a quick note, gcc -Wall -W (2.95.2) doesn't complain on 
this program:

: leisner@soyata;cat foo.c
#include 

int main(void)
{
        printf("hello world\n");
        exit(0);
}

I don't know if gcc has an option to flag this...but write uncluttered code.
Marty Leisner


Alfred Perlstein  writes  on Thu, 13 Jan 2000 03:02:36 PS
T
     > * Alexey N. Dokuchaev  [000112 23:54] wrote:
     > > On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Naief BinTalal wrote:
     > > 
     > > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 04:28:23PM +0000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
     > > > > 
     > > > > I'm trying to write a hello world program.  What is the output 
file for
     > > > > the console currently being displayed (in other words, the 
screen)?
     > > > > I've tried printf, and fprintf to stdout and stderr.
     > > > 
     > > >   #include 
     > > > 
     > > >   int
     > > >   main(void)
     > > >   {
     > > >   	(void)fprintf(stdout,"Hello World\n");
     > > > 	return 0;
     > > >   }
     > > > 
     > > 
     > > While browsing thru the source code of almost anything in FreeBSD, 
I've
     > > noticed that (type)function(parameters); syntax.  Why not just to 
write
     > > function(paramenters).  Like in the prev example, what's wrong with 
simple
     > > printf(blahblah); but (void)printf(blahblah); ?
     > 
     > Nothing really, it's my preference to only use void when I mean:
     > 
     > "i know this function returns something that may be interesting, but 
frankly
     > I don't care at this point"
     > 
     > using it for things like printf is a bit much, but it sort of let's the
     > next guy know that you didn't miss something.
     > 
     > I also remember hearing that older compilers had an option to complain
     > about code that didn't do something with return values.
     > 
     > -Alfred
     > 
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From: Alfred Perlstein 
To: TONY SIM 
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* TONY SIM  [000116 07:53] wrote:
> i just got a freebsd 3.3 some weeks ago, but it was kinda hard
> to use....  it is currently installed in my old computer so i can
> learn how to use it without interrupting my school work (i'm just
> a high school student)

You're lucky, a lot of people don't get into UNIX until they're
in or out of college.

> i was wondering, however, if there was a news letters that can
> teach novice, like myself, to use unix or define terms 'n uses in
> unix...  (i still don't understand where or how to use vi or emacs...
> i mean, what r they for?  r they like edit.com in dos?  oh, 'n they
> are only 2 out of million things i am confused about...)

There's a lot of sites on the web that can help you with things
like 'vi' and 'emacs', one particular book I really like is:
"Harley Hahn's Student Guide to Unix" which imo gives a very
helpful guide to the UNIX user interface.

Amazon has it here:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D0070254923/50webmasterscomA/104-3891535-9350026

I would also suggest you get a copy of "the complete freebsd"
http://www.freebsdmall.com/books/#bsdcomp if you only have the
CDrom it really helps.

> sorry to trouble you...  i'm just really excited to have unix
> which sounds so legendary, yet very frustrated because i can't use
> it....  thanx a lot for reading thus far...

One thing we ask is that when sending questions to the email lists
you set your mailer to wrap lines at 70 characters and use a more
descriptive subject.

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From: Alfred Perlstein 
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	freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: (void)printf(); (Was: Re: simple c i/o question)
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* Marty Leisner  [000116 13:06] wrote:
> 
> Most cases of casting things like printf is to shut up lint.
> 
> IMHO this is very bad practice, you shouldn't have unneeded symbols.
> 
> Just for a quick note, gcc -Wall -W (2.95.2) doesn't complain on 
> this program:
> 
> : leisner@soyata;cat foo.c
> #include 
> 
> int main(void)
> {
>         printf("hello world\n");
>         exit(0);
> }
> 
> I don't know if gcc has an option to flag this...but write uncluttered code.

gcc (or maybe some other older compiler) used to be able to flag this,
I admit that I don't use it that often, but sometimes it just makes sense.

It would probably better serve people if the code in question had a comment
explaining _why_ the return value is ignored.

-Alfred


> Marty Leisner
> 
> 
> Alfred Perlstein  writes  on Thu, 13 Jan 2000 03:02:36 PS
> T
>      > * Alexey N. Dokuchaev  [000112 23:54] wrote:
>      > > On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Naief BinTalal wrote:
>      > > 
>      > > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 04:28:23PM +0000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
>      > > > > 
>      > > > > I'm trying to write a hello world program.  What is the output 
> file for
>      > > > > the console currently being displayed (in other words, the 
> screen)?
>      > > > > I've tried printf, and fprintf to stdout and stderr.
>      > > > 
>      > > >   #include 
>      > > > 
>      > > >   int
>      > > >   main(void)
>      > > >   {
>      > > >   	(void)fprintf(stdout,"Hello World\n");
>      > > > 	return 0;
>      > > >   }
>      > > > 
>      > > 
>      > > While browsing thru the source code of almost anything in FreeBSD, 
> I've
>      > > noticed that (type)function(parameters); syntax.  Why not just to 
> write
>      > > function(paramenters).  Like in the prev example, what's wrong with 
> simple
>      > > printf(blahblah); but (void)printf(blahblah); ?
>      > 
>      > Nothing really, it's my preference to only use void when I mean:
>      > 
>      > "i know this function returns something that may be interesting, but 
> frankly
>      > I don't care at this point"
>      > 
>      > using it for things like printf is a bit much, but it sort of let's the
>      > next guy know that you didn't miss something.
>      > 
>      > I also remember hearing that older compilers had an option to complain
>      > about code that didn't do something with return values.
>      > 
>      > -Alfred
>      > 
>      > 
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2000 13:08:05 -0800, you wrote:

>* TONY SIM  [000116 07:53] wrote:
>> i just got a freebsd 3.3 some weeks ago, but it was kinda hard
>> to use....  it is currently installed in my old computer so i can
>> learn how to use it without interrupting my school work (i'm just
>> a high school student)
>
>> i was wondering, however, if there was a news letters that can
>> teach novice, like myself, to use unix or define terms 'n uses in
>> unix...  (i still don't understand where or how to use vi or emacs...
>> i mean, what r they for?  r they like edit.com in dos?  oh, 'n they
>> are only 2 out of million things i am confused about...)
>

Any Unix tutorial should be able to help you get grips with the
system. In particular you will be better off with a BSD book than a
system V.

If you have the spare $ you might consider the O'Reily CD set of unix
books which you could set up on your "other" computer to use as a
reference.

In learning vi or emacs you might look for a port to your other
machine too. I certainly found that I kept going back to doze for
stuff that I had to get done before I bought the O'Reily Vi book.=20

If you have a copy of Vim on a doze box though you can try to use it
as your default editor and only drop into edit notepad or whatever
when you *HAVE* to get something done. Then when you go back to the
Unix box the commands will be like second nature. (doh!.. I wish)

You should find that you can use Unix type stuff on the doze box while
you build your familiarity with the system and make the big leap...

Consider using Star Office on the doze and 'Nix box so you have the
same tools available in whatever environment and you are not
constantly having to back track.

It's more difficult in a working environment though. The number of
times I find ":237Gwww" popped into the middle of a c file under the
M$ Visual Studio. *doh!*=20

regards,
Ian




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From: Cal Cornils 
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> Can I install FreeBSD 3.2 so that it's bootable from a floppy??  I'd
>  like to put it in a new partition on my Win PC separate (or course) from
> all others, and would rather not try to fool around  with the MBR, boot
> sectors, and such for startup.


If you go to http://www.freebsd.org and search the `questions' mailing list,
you'll find this very topic answered a few days ago. Ask for the search results
to be sorted by "date" and you should be booting off the floppy within the hour.
;^)

-duke



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Take a look at Twig.  I have installed and used it.  It also has a to do
list, contact manager, and calendar much like Yahoo's system.
http://twig.screwdriver.net


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I am looking for a web based email package that will run on freebsd,
something like a AOL interface, but it needs IMAP support. Any ideas?

><>
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On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 11:23:22AM -0500, C J Michaels wrote:
> Well, all I can say is, do you have a switch or a hub?  If you have a hub,
> odds are that it doesn't support full-duplex in the 1st place and that's why
> you are getting really poor performance.
> 
> Try forcing the cards to half-duplex and see what happens.

No hub (just crossover cable), but thanks for the pointer to
potential problems when my network grows a bit bigger.

The problem turned out to be NT botching the auto-sensing thing.
I had FreeBSD wired to 100baseTX, full-duplex, but NT was set to
"AUTO", and was presumably picking half-duplex.  When I forced
NT to match the mode that FreeBSD was in, everything was happy,
for all of the supported modes.  (Ob Windows bash: NT required a
reboot every time I changed the ethernet config...)

There is still a weird performance gotcha with NT's ftp process
(it would pause for about one second in four, resulting in a net
througput of about 1.2M bytes/s).  Samba performance is better,
at about 5M/s.  Still not the 10M/s you'd hope for, but enough
to keep me going at the moment.

-- 
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Hi,

On Sat, 15 Jan 2000, Crist J. Clark wrote:

> Danny wrote,

> > Question
> > 
> > 1) How can I get ports to work with the firewall?

While the other replies will work, they are a lot of work unless you set
these environmental variables in your .cshrc or .bashrc.  It's easier I
think to do the following by editing /etc/make.conf

	- uncomment FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=	YES
	- add "FETCH_BEFORE_ARGS=-p"
	- add "HTTP_PROXY=  address of proxy"
	- add "FTP_PROXY= address of proxy"

For more info, take a look at the fetch man page.

Brett
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> I noticed while browsing through the wormcontrol(8) man page that the
> 'prepdisk' command takes arguments 'single' or 'double', meaning that you
> can only write disks in 1x and 2x speeds. 

I think the document is misleading. The arg 'double' seems to be to write in
the fastest speed that the drive will support.   I know I write a full CD in
around 15 minutes on my (4x) HP 8100i drive after specifying "prepdisk double".

(I run 3.x here; 4.x has a whole new ATA driver which may change this.)






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On Sun 16 Jan 2000 at 20:54:03 +0100, rene@xs4all.nl wrote:

Since it looks like the only thing that you really do by hand is:

> bash-2.02# mount /dev/vinum/myvol /mnt/large

putting it in /etc/fstab should be enough. Something like

# filesys     mount point       type    access                  dump    fsck
# location                              + opts                  freq    pass

/dev/vinum/myvol /mnt/large     ffs     rw                      1       2

should do it. Unless maybe this tries to mount it too early in the boot
sequence. In that case, make it

/dev/vinum/myvol /mnt/large     ffs     rw,noauto               1       2

so that the initial mount -a will not try to mount it yet, and put the
following in /etc/rc.local:

mount /mnt/large

> Greetings, 
>  rene 

-Olaf (none of this is vinum-sprecific, by te way).
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On 14/01 16:31, James A Wilde wrote:

> Without wishing to start a religious war, is there any clear recommendation
> on which mail client a greenhorn should choose first.  I haven't got the X
> system fully configured yet so we're talking cli here.

I like to use mutt for mail with vim as my editor, because they both have
colour, and are infinitely customisable.  (If you want example dotfiles
drop me a note)  More information is available at each project's web site
(http:///www.vim.org and http://www.mutt.org)  Both are in the ports tree.

  cd /usr/ports/editors/vim5 && make install
  cd /usr/ports/mail/mutt && make install

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On 14/01 19:43, Ray D. Davis wrote:

> I am on ver 2.8. 

I think what you mean to say is that you have version 2.8.x of gcc.


> I have compiled an equivalent of hello world in both c and c++ using both
> the default a.out method and the -o option.  

Like this?

  gcc -Wall -o hw hw.c

Or perhaps like this:

  gcc -Wall -c hw.c
  gcc -o hw hw.o

?

> Yet when I try to execute the file which is supposed to be linked, by
> typing the file name, eg.  ntest, the system says ntest: not a command.

That's because your command shell is not looking the current directory for
executable programs.

Continuing our example above, you should type:

  ./hw

to get the program to execute.

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On Sat, Jan 15, 2000 at 10:58:27AM -0800, whitehat@home.com wrote:
>
> Is there a FreeBSD equivalent to the Windows drive compression tool
> drvspace?  I want to compress my drive in FreeBSD so I can have more
> free space.

The short answer is "no".

The longer one is something along the lines of:

The cost of every new MB added to a machine with a new disk, does not
justify nowadays the need for any form of compression.

The added overhead in reading from and/or writing to such a drive is
another reason for not doing this.

You can come up with a billion more reasons for not doing such a thing,
especially concerning performance and reliability of the data on your
disks.

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On Sat, Jan 15, 2000 at 10:58:39AM -0800, Carlos Maracabay wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I have problems making a simple program that opens
> a file, to view it contents on the monitor scream...
> what's the problem in this source file, to do this, in
> Freebsd??
> 
> Any help will be appreciated.
> Thanks for your time!
> 
>                             Regards,
>                                    Dimetriov.
> #include 
> #include 
> #include 
> #include 
>  
>  
> 
>  
> main(int argc, char *argv[])
> {
> 
> int f1,n;
> char buf[BUFSIZ];
> 
> if(argc != 2)
>   printf("Argument meesing\n");
> if(f1 = open(argv[1], O_RDONLY,0) == -1)

The above statement, bearing in mind that == will happen first, will be
equivalent to the fully parenthesized:

  if (f1 = (open(argv[1], O_RDONLY, 0) == -1))

which depending on whether open() succeeds or not, will always set f1
to C's notion of true or false, either 1 or 0 respectively.  You can
bet that you'll be reading from the wrong descriptor if this happens,
since both 0 and 1 are descriptors already assigned to standard input
and standard output ;)

> printf("cp cant open \n");
        __^^__

I surely hope you're not calling your executable `cp' with /bin/cp in
your PATH before the current directory... and expect to call your
program without a leading ./ as in:

	% ./cp FILE

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On Sat, Jan 15, 2000 at 08:50:19PM -0600, Alex Charalabidis wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Jan 2000, Crist J. Clark wrote:
> >
> > Somebody's crontab or /etc/crontab have some messed up entries? Not
> > sure, never seen a message like those before.
>
> I have, on 3.3-RC, but my memory of the incident is a bit vague. What
> *appeared* to solve it was deleting root's crontab. IIRC, it started
> happening after I edited /etc/crontab with a text editor, NOT
> crontab(1).

What do you mean, not crontab(1).  That you didn't use `crontab -e' to
edit the crontab file?  To be frank, I almost habitually use a text
editor to edit /etc/crontab, and it has always worked for me.  Well,
not always, but when it didn't it was because I had forgotten a field
here and there, or because some silly editor wrapped automagically some
line without letting me know ;)

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Hi,

I'm having an irritating problem with unwanted dialups caused (it seems) by
hostname lookups that I could do with some help eliminating.

The basic architecture is a FreBSD box using ppp (with -auto and -alias
flags) acting as an Internet gateway to a LAN.  The box is also running
BIND to provide DNS.  The LAN machines all use 10.0.0.* IPs while the
gateway box also has a proper IP assigned by the ISP on its dialup interface.

The gateway box is currently running a rather ageing version of 4.0-CURRENT
(shortly to be replaced by something more normal!) - however, a 3.2-RELEASE
box on the LAN seems to have the same problem.

Basically, the issue is that when I log in via telnet, a DNS query is done
for a truncated version of the client's host name - i.e. if I log in to the
server (zero.somedomain.com) from another machine (say,
jaka.lan.somedomain.com) a query is done for jaka.lan.  This isn't
recognised by named on zero, so it queries the ISPs server.

The DNS query seems to be happening as soon as I enter the password, as the
login hangs at this point while the server dials out.  The session looks
like this:

  jaka% telnet 10.0.0.1
  Trying 10.0.0.1...
  Connected to zero.lan.somedomain.com.
  Escape character is '^]'.

  FreeBSD/i386 (zero.somedomain.com) (ttyp3)

  login: dg
  Password:
  Last login: Sun Jan 16 22:26:57 from jaka.lan
  Copyright (c) 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994
          The Regents of the University of California.  All rights reserved.

  FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT (DMG_KERNEL) #1: Mon Jan 10 13:42:55 GMT 2000

Personally, I suspect the Last login section - it is this truncated name
that is being queried and this is what is getting stored in wtmp and other
places.  Casting a very inexpert eye over the source for login, it seems
that some shortening of the domain is being done deliberately, but I'm not
sure why a lookup would be done on this when I log on.

Checking out the archives, there are a few references to similar problems,
but they are mostly related to reverse lookups, which seem fine on my
setup.  There was also an old (1996) mention of an issue with tcsh (my
shell), but I'm not sure if this is it.

There are some obvious workarounds to this, but I'd really appreciate some
pointers as to what is wrong (or more likely what I've done wrong!)

I've appended some more info about the setup etc.

I'm not currently subscribed to -questions to please cc me on any responses.

Thanks,

Dave


Snippet from named.query.log:

12-Jan-2000 22:47:16.515 XX+/10.0.0.1/jaka.lan/A/IN
12-Jan-2000 22:47:16.517 XX+/10.0.0.1/jaka.lan.somedomain.com/A/IN
[...]
12-Jan-2000 23:19:32.595 XX+/10.0.0.1/jaka.lan/A/IN
12-Jan-2000 23:19:32.597 XX+/10.0.0.1/jaka.lan.somedomain.com/A/IN


Edited zone file for the domain held on the gateway server:

$ORIGIN com.
somedomain	43200	IN	SOA	zero.somedomain.com. name.someisp.co.uk. (
		118687026 21600 10800 604800 43200 )
	43200	IN	NS	zero.somedomain.com.
$ORIGIN somedomain.com.
zero	43200	IN	A	195.256.256.256
localhost	43200	IN	A	127.0.0.1
jaka	43200	IN	CNAME	jaka.lan.somedomain.com.
ns	43200	IN	CNAME	zero.somedomain.com.
$ORIGIN lan.somedomain.com.
zero	43200	IN	A	10.0.0.1
jaka	43200	IN	A	10.0.0.2
elrod	43200	IN	A	10.0.0.3
astoria	43200	IN	A	10.0.0.9
elf 	43200	IN	A	10.0.0.10
gateway	43200	IN	CNAME	zero



Reverse lookup:

$ORIGIN 0.10.in-addr.arpa.
0       86400   IN      SOA     ns.somedomain.com. name.someisp.co.uk. (
                2216956931 10800 3600 604800 86400 )
        86400   IN      NS      ns.somedomain.com.
$ORIGIN 0.0.10.in-addr.arpa.
1       86400   IN      PTR     zero.lan.somedomain.com.
2       86400   IN      PTR     jaka.lan.somedomain.com.
3       86400   IN      PTR     elrod.lan.somedomain.com.
4       86400   IN      PTR     julius.lan.somedomain.com.
9       86400   IN      PTR     astoria.lan.somedomain.com.
10      86400   IN      PTR     jaka.lan.somedomain.com.



Edited named.conf:

// $Id: named.conf,v 1.5 1998/12/23 06:06:13 dillon Exp $
//
// Refer to the named(8) man page for details.  If you are ever going
// to setup a primary server, make sure you've understood the hairy
// details of how DNS is working.  Even with simple mistakes, you can
// break connectivity for affected parties, or cause huge amount of
// useless Internet traffic.



options {
	directory "/etc/namedb";


	dialup yes;
	use-id-pool yes;
	treat-cr-as-space yes;
[...]
// In addition to the "forwarders" clause, you can force your name
// server to never initiate queries of its own, but always ask its
// forwarders only, by enabling the following line:
//
      forward only;

// If you've got a DNS server around at your upstream provider, enter
// its IP address here, and enable the line below.  This will make you
// benefit from its cache, thus reduce overall DNS traffic in the Internet.

	forwarders {
		195.256.256.256;
	};

[...]
};


[...]


zone "." {
	type hint;
	file "named.root";
};

zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" {
	type master;
	file "localhost.rev";
};

[...]
zone "somedomain.com" {
	type master;
	file "s/somedomain.com";
	notify no;

};


zone "0.0.10.in-addr.arpa" {
        type master;
        file "s/0.0.10.in-addr.arpa";
	notify no;
};




Random nslookup stuff:

Script started on Wed Jan 12 23:23:24 2000
dg has logged on ttyp0 from jaka.
zero% nslookup
Default Server:  zero.lan.somedomain.com
Address:  10.0.0.1

> jaka
Server:  zero.lan.somedomain.com
Address:  10.0.0.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:    jaka.lan.somedomain.com
Address:  10.0.0.10
Aliases:  jaka.somedomain.com

> 10.0.0.10
Server:  zero.lan.somedomain.com
Address:  10.0.0.1

Name:    jaka.lan.somedomain.com
Address:  10.0.0.10

> set type=any
> jaka
Server:  zero.lan.somedomain.com
Address:  10.0.0.1

jaka.somedomain.com	canonical name = jaka.lan.somedomain.com
somedomain.com	nameserver = zero.somedomain.com
zero.somedomain.com	internet address = 195.256.256.256
> exit
zero%



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On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 09:42:12AM -0500, Roy W Bradley wrote:
> Dell 4350 Dual PIII, 512MB RAM, Dual Intel Pro 100+ Ethernet NIC, and PERC
> 2/SC RAID Single Channel Controller w/16MB Cache?

The RAID controller is the tricky bit. If you want to boot off a RAID
drive, then you'll need 4.0-CURRENT. If you can boot off a non-RAID
drive, then you can use 3.x with the drivers from

http://www.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID/ami/amr-stable-991214.tar.gz.

I haven't actually run FreeBSD on such a system, but I believe the other
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John Indra  wrote:

> Now, how can I make xterm-color as the default $TERM whenever I invoke
> xterm-alike programs?

For xterm, set

XTerm*termName: xterm-color

in your ~/.Xdefaults (or wherever you keep your X11 resource settings).
For other "xterm-like programs", check their respective man pages.

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 wrote:

> Any solutions for getting a linux machine to dump over the network to my
> freebsd machine with all the tape devices in it?

No. Just works for me.

> The linux machines don't seem to want to do it. 

That's unfortunate. I mean, if there was some kind of error we
could try to figure out what's going wrong, but if it is just the
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What criterion (ia) are used for determining the use of ipfw or natd 
in creating a firewall? TIA..

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This may sound lame.  I learned the basic Unix commands from the book Unix 
for Dummies.  It was quite useful for me and quick to simply get an idea of 
the commands in Unix and what some of their DOS equivalents are (which was 
good because I was very familiar with DOS so it made it a lil easier for me)

Jim

At 10:32 16-01-00 -0600, Bob Martin wrote:
> > TONY SIM wrote:
> >
> > i just got a freebsd 3.3 some weeks ago, but it was kinda hard to
> > use....  it is currently installed in my old computer so i can learn
> > how to use it without interrupting my school work (i'm just a high
> > school student)
> >
> > i was wondering, however, if there was a news letters that can teach
> > novice, like myself, to use unix or define terms 'n uses in unix...
> > (i still don't understand where or how to use vi or emacs...  i mean,
> > what r they for?  r they like edit.com in dos?  oh, 'n they are only 2
> > out of million things i am confused about...)
> >
> > sorry to trouble you...  i'm just really excited to have unix which
> > sounds so legendary, yet very frustrated because i can't use it....
> > thanx a lot for reading thus far...
> >
> > have a nice day ^^
>Tony,
>You have to learn Unix pretty much the way you learned Windows. First,
>see if you can find someone that knows Unix, and ask them to help.
>Second, experiment. And of course, read the documentation. If you have
>trouble finding the documents on your machine, you can get them online.
>Try this for starters:
>http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html
>There is an e-mail list for newbies. Send e-mail to
>majordomo@freebsd.org with the following line (and only this line) in
>the body:
>subscribe freebsd-newbies
>
>Here are a few pointers to help you get started.
>Nearly all "commands" live in directories named "bin" for example,
>/usr/bin and /usr/local/bin. The following list of commands will help
>you out.
>whatis  --This command will give you a brief description of what a
>command does. Example: whatis vi
>more    --This command is used to read text files one page at a time.
>Works a lot like type | more in dos. Example: more /COPYRIGHT
>man     --This command will give you the manual page for all kinds of
>things. To find out more type man man
>
>Good luck!
>--
>Bob Martin, bob@buckhorn.net
>http://www.buckhorn.net
>
>"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World
>War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
>                 -- Albert Einstein
>
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Hi,

If xl0 is internal then my guess is that someone has put a pc on your lan
with an IP address of 216.174.91.28 and a netmask of 255.255.255.224 which
makes 216.174.91.31 the broadcast address for the subnet.

If xl0 is external then I'm not really sure why you are seeing those
packets since xl0 is apparently not on 216.174.91.0.

Colin

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> If you're connected to a hub then that means someone else on that hub has
> address space in that area, otherwise, something's barfing on you.
> 
> Omachonu Ogali
> Intranova Networking Group
> 
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Brian Gallucci wrote:
> 
> > This is really weird ->
> > 
> > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:138 216.174.91.31:138
in via xl0
       ............
> > ipfw: 1800 Deny UDP 216.174.91.28:138 216.174.91.31:138 in via xl0
> > 

Colin



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At least you didnt learn the "hard" way.  I started out by asking a
UNIX-knowing friend a question, he replied "man man" and wouldn't answer
questions for almost a month.  It made me get good at reading man pages,
and I learned *very* quickly, but I don't recommend this approach unless
you're obsessed (I was, and still am :)

Jim Conner wrote:
> 
> This may sound lame.  I learned the basic Unix commands from the book Unix
> for Dummies.  It was quite useful for me and quick to simply get an idea of
> the commands in Unix and what some of their DOS equivalents are (which was
> good because I was very familiar with DOS so it made it a lil easier for me)
> 
> Jim
> 
> At 10:32 16-01-00 -0600, Bob Martin wrote:
> > > TONY SIM wrote:
> > >
> > > i just got a freebsd 3.3 some weeks ago, but it was kinda hard to
> > > use....  it is currently installed in my old computer so i can learn
> > > how to use it without interrupting my school work (i'm just a high
> > > school student)
> > >
> > > i was wondering, however, if there was a news letters that can teach
> > > novice, like myself, to use unix or define terms 'n uses in unix...
> > > (i still don't understand where or how to use vi or emacs...  i mean,
> > > what r they for?  r they like edit.com in dos?  oh, 'n they are only 2
> > > out of million things i am confused about...)
> > >
> > > sorry to trouble you...  i'm just really excited to have unix which
> > > sounds so legendary, yet very frustrated because i can't use it....
> > > thanx a lot for reading thus far...
> > >
> > > have a nice day ^^
> >Tony,
> >You have to learn Unix pretty much the way you learned Windows. First,
> >see if you can find someone that knows Unix, and ask them to help.
> >Second, experiment. And of course, read the documentation. If you have
> >trouble finding the documents on your machine, you can get them online.
> >Try this for starters:
> >http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html
> >There is an e-mail list for newbies. Send e-mail to
> >majordomo@freebsd.org with the following line (and only this line) in
> >the body:
> >subscribe freebsd-newbies
> >
> >Here are a few pointers to help you get started.
> >Nearly all "commands" live in directories named "bin" for example,
> >/usr/bin and /usr/local/bin. The following list of commands will help
> >you out.
> >whatis  --This command will give you a brief description of what a
> >command does. Example: whatis vi
> >more    --This command is used to read text files one page at a time.
> >Works a lot like type | more in dos. Example: more /COPYRIGHT
> >man     --This command will give you the manual page for all kinds of
> >things. To find out more type man man
> >
> >Good luck!
> >--
> >Bob Martin, bob@buckhorn.net
> >http://www.buckhorn.net
> >
> >"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World
> >War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
> >                 -- Albert Einstein
> >
> >
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> UNIX  - "segmentation fault - core dumped"
> Humanous Beingsus - "OOPS, I've fallen and I can't get up"
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> jconner@enterit.com
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On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 06:24:04PM -0700, Duke Normandin wrote:

> What criterion (ia) are used for determining the use of ipfw or natd 
> in creating a firewall? TIA..

They're both different beasts, ipfw is for filtering packets, and natd
is for hiding networks behind a single IP address. Most firewalls make
use of both.

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On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Duke Normandin wrote:

> What criterion (ia) are used for determining the use of ipfw or natd 
> in creating a firewall? TIA..
> 
> -duke
> 
Hi, Duke.

I use both on my systems.  They serve different purposes.  ipfw provides
firewall packet filtering services between two or more machines.  natd
provides network address translation, presumably to convert internal LAN
ip addresses to and from public IPs.

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On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 05:36:24PM -0500, Brett Taylor wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Sat, 15 Jan 2000, Crist J. Clark wrote:
> 
> > Danny wrote,
> 
> > > Question
> > > 
> > > 1) How can I get ports to work with the firewall?
> 
> While the other replies will work, they are a lot of work unless you set
> these environmental variables in your .cshrc or .bashrc.  It's easier I
> think to do the following by editing /etc/make.conf
> 
> 	- uncomment FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=	YES
[snip]

I was going to suggest this too until I realized that this was no
longer in the distributed make.conf. That made me suspicious so I did,

   % grep PASSIVE /usr/ports/Mk/*
   % grep PASSIVE /usr/share/mk/*
   % 

Which showed no such variable is used in the mk-files. Is it just you
and I or was there once such a beast? Or is there still one and I just
have not found it?
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< said:

> I think he wants to know why we use 'sh' instead of one
> of the more popular shells.

OK.  I've moved the thread to -questions where it would be more
appropriate.  Doc team: this should go in the FAQ.

The simple answer is: because POSIX says that there shall be such a
shell.

The more complicated answer: many people need to write shell scripts
which will be portable across many systems.  That's why POSIX
specifies the shell and utility commands in great detail.  Most
scripts are written in Bourne shell, and because several important
programming interfaces (make(1), system(3), popen(3), and analogues in
higher-level scripting languages like Perl and Tcl) are specified to
use the Bourne shell to interpret commands.  Because the Bourne shell
is so often and widely used, it is important for it to be quick to
start, be deterministic in its behavior, and have a small memory
footprint.

The existing implementation is our best effort at meeting as many of
these requirements simultaneously as we can.  In order to keep /bin/sh
small, we have not provided many of the convenience features that other
shells have.  That's why the Ports Collection includes more featureful
shells like bash, scsh, tcsh, and zsh.  (You can compare for yourself
the memory utilization of all these shells by looking at the `VSZ' and
`RSS' columns in a `ps -u' listing.)

-GAWollman

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All of this system will run (with the exception of the PERC). We are using these
machines with 3.2, 3.3 and 4.0 now.

Michael





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On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 09:42:12AM -0500, Roy W Bradley wrote:
> Dell 4350 Dual PIII, 512MB RAM, Dual Intel Pro 100+ Ethernet NIC, and PERC
> 2/SC RAID Single Channel Controller w/16MB Cache?

The RAID controller is the tricky bit. If you want to boot off a RAID
drive, then you'll need 4.0-CURRENT. If you can boot off a non-RAID
drive, then you can use 3.x with the drivers from

http://www.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID/ami/amr-stable-991214.tar.gz.

I haven't actually run FreeBSD on such a system, but I believe the other
hardware is supported out of the box.

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Yep, as Duke said, the question was answered earlier in the week (when
asked by me :)

The way it worked for me was that during the install I chose the "Don't
touch MBR" option... yet it still did... but I guess an fdisk /mbr (or
Partition Magic or the like) should do the trick... so *exercise caution*
if you're unsure... (that was what happened with 3.2 Release for me)

[In any case, you'll need some way of getting into FreeBSD first of all,
 in order to prepare a suitable boot floppy.]

The method that I found best in the end was to take the first of the
install floppys, and (assuming that the floppy is mounted on /floppy) then
remove the kernel file on the floppy, and the included config files.

In other words, the remaining directory structure is...

	/floppy/boot.config
	
	/floppy/boot/boot1
	/floppy/boot/boot2
	/floppy/boot/loader

So at that point, you'll need to whack a line like

	0:wd(1,a)kernel

into /floppy/boot.config

What that will do is look for IDE interface 0 (specified by 0:wd), then
it'll go to slice 1, partition a (slice 0 is the 1st slice, slice 1 is the
2nd etc.);
then it will load the file named kernel that it finds there.

You can do fancier stuff if need be with the following line...

	0:wd(1,a)/boot/loader

That will run the program called /boot/loader on the hard disk, which will
let you configure PNP cards and similar fun stuff.

Best of luck!

-- 
	Niall

On Sat, 15 Jan 2000, Cal Cornils wrote:

> Can I install FreeBSD 3.2 so that it's bootable from a floppy??  I'd
>  like to put it in a new partition on my Win PC separate (or course) from
> all others, and would rather not try to fool around  with the MBR, boot
> sectors, and such for startup.
> 
>  I believe I've heard this is one of the options that's available when
>  doing the installation, but wasn't sure.  And that when it's done, I
> believe you can give at the boot: prompt something like
>           wd(2,c)/kernel
>  to give it directions to the BSD partition.   Is this the way it works??
> 
>  I can do this kind of a thing with RH Linux 5.2, but wanted to confirm
>  that it's also an option with FreeBSD.
> 
>  Cal Cornils
> 
> 
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Dear Sir or Madam,

We hope you would answer some questions we may have about Free BSD. It sounds like a great product and we would like some clarity. 

We are presently running Windows 98 as well as other MS product software. Being an operating system, would Free BSD replace Windows, supplement or otherwise be found as a replacement for the DOS.

Another question would be how greatly improved will security be from hackers (we were hit once before)? And if not,would you have any recommendations for security and fire wall?

And the final question- if we decide to persue with Free BSD, could you tell us the price for the CDROM (we have a Creative Labs 8X CDROM drive) and to whom we can send a check as well as the time expected time frame for delivery?

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Hi,

On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Crist J. Clark wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 05:36:24PM -0500, Brett Taylor wrote:

> > While the other replies will work, they are a lot of work unless you set
> > these environmental variables in your .cshrc or .bashrc.  It's easier I
> > think to do the following by editing /etc/make.conf
> > 
> > 	- uncomment FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=	YES

> I was going to suggest this too until I realized that this was no
> longer in the distributed make.conf. That made me suspicious so I did,

>    % grep PASSIVE /usr/ports/Mk/*
>    % grep PASSIVE /usr/share/mk/*

> Which showed no such variable is used in the mk-files. Is it just you
> and I or was there once such a beast? Or is there still one and I just
> have not found it?

Hmmm... there WAS one - and it worked (or at least used to).  Digging
through the cvsweb I found the following:

-----------------------------------------
1.74 Wed Feb 3 22:25:41 1999 UTC by asami 
Diffs to 1.73 

Remove commented out definition of FTP_PASSIVE_MODE, it is (and has always
been) an environment variable and doesn't belong here.

Pointed out by: cnh@ems.mindspring.net, sanpei@yy.cs.keio.ac.jp
-----------------------------------------

So it's gone.  I don't think it hurts to do things this way however.

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On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 10:42:00PM -0500, Brett Taylor wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Crist J. Clark wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 05:36:24PM -0500, Brett Taylor wrote:
> 
> > > While the other replies will work, they are a lot of work unless you set
> > > these environmental variables in your .cshrc or .bashrc.  It's easier I
> > > think to do the following by editing /etc/make.conf
> > > 
> > > 	- uncomment FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=	YES
> 
> > I was going to suggest this too until I realized that this was no
> > longer in the distributed make.conf. That made me suspicious so I did,
> 
> >    % grep PASSIVE /usr/ports/Mk/*
> >    % grep PASSIVE /usr/share/mk/*
> 
> > Which showed no such variable is used in the mk-files. Is it just you
> > and I or was there once such a beast? Or is there still one and I just
> > have not found it?
> 
> Hmmm... there WAS one - and it worked (or at least used to).  Digging
> through the cvsweb I found the following:
> 
> -----------------------------------------
> 1.74 Wed Feb 3 22:25:41 1999 UTC by asami 
> Diffs to 1.73 
> 
> Remove commented out definition of FTP_PASSIVE_MODE, it is (and has always
> been) an environment variable and doesn't belong here.
> 
> Pointed out by: cnh@ems.mindspring.net, sanpei@yy.cs.keio.ac.jp
> -----------------------------------------
> 
> So it's gone.  I don't think it hurts to do things this way however.

But it has worked without it a long time. I'm behind a firewall and I've
seen people refer (is it spelled like that?) to it, but never used it
for 2 years, since it works with only FTP_PROXY variable set :)

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Mikhail Evstiounin  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > From: Oliver Fromme 
 >>No, it's _exactly_ the same, as far as the compiler is
 >>concerned.  The meaning of "volatile" is to prevent the
 >>compiler's optimizer stage from assuming that the content
 >>of a variable cannot change _asynchronously_ between
 >>C statements.  The important word is ``asynchronously''.
 >>It means changes to variables outside of the control flow
 >>which is known to the compiler at compile-time.  This
 >>includes signal handlers just as well as hardware registers,
 >>shared memory etc.
 > 
 > Wrong, wrong and wrong. Hardware generates interrupts,
 > changes statues and value in hardware registers totaly async
 > and this process is out of your control.

Delivery of a signal is, in essence, cause by a hardware
interrupt, directly or indirectly.  It is what you call
"totally async".

 > Moreover, your process will be stopped as soon as
 > sighandler gets its control.

No, the sighandler is part of the process.  When a signal
handler gets called, this is (simply speaking) like an
asynchronous and non-foreseeable subroutine call.

 > This process is totally under your control

No, it is not.  In particular, the compiler is unable to take
it into consideration during register optimization.

 > [useless example with race-conditions deleted]
 > And vilotale doesn't help a bit!!!

True, volatile does not help against typical race-conditions.
That's not the purpose of volatile.  Volatile does not help
for basic synchronization, this is the programmer's task, but
not the task of volatile.

Without volatile, the programmer would be _completely_ unable
to use global variables within signal handlers, because the
compiler could hold their values in registers for an indefinite
amount of time.

In theory, if the processor hardware has enough registers,
_all_ variables of the whole program could be held in registers
during the _whole_ lifetime of the process.  There would be
never a variable stored in memory.  This is perfectly legal,
and a programmer whould have no chance to access them from
within a signal handler.

Volatile is the only solution to that problem.  Therefore, it
is necessary, and a compiler _must_ obey it.  It basically
forbids register optimizations for that particular variable.

 > Again, I let myself to cite BS book (p. 808) - "an object can change its
 > value

"BS book"?  How about quoting from an authoritative reference?

 > in ways not specified by the language". In my mind, this is very careful
 > and strict statement.

I'm sorry, but I think it's rather misleading.

 > Any ofthis book or article will show you how to live without
 > vilotile in async process environment.

You cannot solve the problem without "volatile" which I've
demonstrated above.

The ANSI/ISO C standard is missing in your list of books.  ;-)
I'd recommend that you read the section about "volatile".

Yet another example (simplified):

   extern int i;
   extern int j;
   void foo (void) { j = i * i;  j += i; }

Compiled with ``cc -O3 -Wall -ansi -pedantic -c'', the result is:

   movl   i,%eax
   imull  %eax,%eax
   addl   j,%eax
   movl   %eax,0x0

Note that there could be other, unrelated statements between
those two, and the compiler would still be allowed to hold
everything in registers, if possible.  If a signal handler
is called at this point, you have three problems:

1)  If it reads the variable j, it gets the wrong value,
    because j has not been updated yet.
2)  If it writes to i, the value would not be used by the
    function after return from the signal handler.
3)  If it writes to j, the value will be ignored and
    overwritten after return from the signal handler.

In short:  The whole thing breaks without volatile.

Adding "volatile" to the declaration of i and j changes the
code considerably:

   movl   i,%eax
   movl   i,%edx
   imull  %edx,%eax
   movl   %eax,j
   movl   j,%eax
   movl   i,%edx
   addl   %edx,%eax
   movl   %eax,j

As you can see, now the contents of i and j are always
consistent.  This code works fine, even when an asynchronous
mechanism (signal handler, hardware, etc.) tries to access
them at some point.

Regards
   Oliver

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MIS Admin Team  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > I recompiled kernel and rebooted, came up just fine
 > cd /dev; sh MAKEDEV pty7, it makes ttyR* and ttyS*

Well, MAKEDEV pty7 will only make the _last_ 32 of 256
device entries, if I'm not mistaken.  Try this one:

   cd /dev; sh MAKEDEV pty1 pty2 pty3 pty4 pty5 pty6 pty7

That should make _all_ of the 256 entries.

Regards
   Oliver

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Unix Guru  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > I'm trying to install JServ for Apache 1.3.9 on a box running
 > FreeBSD 2.2.6. I upgraded to jdk 1.1.8 and jskd 2.0 but
 > [...]
 > ELF interpreter /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found

I can't comment on that particular problem (I'm not using
jserv), but here's some general advice.

The ports collection "officially" supports only the latest
-stable and -current branch.  FreeBSD 2.2.6 is very old, and
there is a growing number of ports which does not work
correctly on it anymore.

You're using the latest versions of Apache and the JDK, but
a very old version of the FreeBSD (not even the latest along
the retired 2.x branch) -- this is a sub-optimal configuration.

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   Oliver

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I recently upgraded to OpenSSH 1.2.1 from OpenSSH 1.2.  Incoming 
connections are being refused, even from localhost.

$ ssh -v localhost
SSH Version OpenSSH-1.2.1, protocol version 1.5.
Compiled with SSL.
debug: Reading configuration data /usr/local/etc/ssh_config
debug: ssh_connect: getuid 0 geteuid 0 anon 0
debug: Connecting to localhost [127.0.0.1] port 22.
debug: Allocated local port 1014.
debug: Connection established.
ssh_exchange_identification: read: No such file or directory
debug: Calling cleanup 0x805359c(0x0)

I'm on FreeBSD 3.3-19991207-SNAP.  My first guess was 
/etc/hosts.allow, but that contains "sshd : ALL : allow"

Any ideas?


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Hello,

I've installed on the second disk of this machine the latest 3.4
snpashot, then installed cvsup and updated the sources to -Stable, then
rebuilt the world and a new kernel, and finally compiled and installed
the latest Xfree86 (3.3.6)

Thus, I should have a very recent -Stable.

But I can't install and run netscape : (there follows an install
attempt)
----------------------------------------------------------------
tfh# make install
===>  Extracting for netscape-communicator-4.7
>> Checksum OK for communicator-v47-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar.gz.
===>   netscape-communicator-4.7 depends on shared library: X11.6 -
found
You can make Netscape use 128-bit encryption by defining USE_128BIT
===>  Patching for netscape-communicator-4.7
===>   Ignoring empty patch directory
===>   Perhaps you forgot the -P flag to cvs co or update?
===>  Configuring for netscape-communicator-4.7
===>  Installing for netscape-communicator-4.7
===>   netscape-communicator-4.7 depends on shared library: X11.6 -
found
Couldn't open /usr/libexec/ld.so.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
tfh#
tfh# uname -a
FreeBSD tfh.herbelot.nom 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE #0: Sun Jan 16
23:53:58 C
ET 2000    
thierry.herbelot@tfh.herbelot.nom:/usr/src/sys/compile/TFH_34  i386
tfh#
tfh# pkg_info
Mesa-3.0            A graphics library similar to SGI's OpenGL
XFree86-3.3.6       X11R6.3/XFree86 core distribution
bzip2-0.9.5d        A block-sorting file compressor
cvsup-16.1          A general network file distribution system optimized
for CVS
gettext-0.10.35     GNU gettext package
giflib-4.1.0        Tools and library routines for working with GIF
images
gmake-3.78.1        GNU version of 'make' utility
jpeg-6b             IJG's jpeg compression utilities
kdelibs-1.1.2       Support libraries for the KDE integrated X11 desktop
libtool-1.3.3       Generic shared library support script
modula-3-3.6        Modula-3 compiler and libraries from DEC Systems
Research Ce
modula-3-lib-3.6    The shared libraries needed for executing Modula-3
programs
png-1.0.5           Library for manipulating PNG images
qt-1.42             A C++ X GUI toolkit
tiff-3.5.4          Tools and library routines for working with TIFF
images
xpm-3.4k            The X Pixmap library
tfh#
----------------------------------------------------------------

I know netscape is still aout, so I may have forgotten to recompile the
aout support tools in the new world I've built - but I'd like to know
for sure.

	Thanks in advance for any help

	TfH


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-----Original Message-----
From: Oliver Fromme 
To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG 
Date: Sunday, January 16, 2000 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: Volatile variables


>Mikhail Evstiounin  wrote in
list.freebsd-questions:
> > Wrong, wrong and wrong. Hardware generates interrupts,
> > changes statues and value in hardware registers totaly async
> > and this process is out of your control.
>
>Delivery of a signal is, in essence, cause by a hardware
>interrupt, directly or indirectly.  It is what you call
>"totally async".


This is one part, but you missed another - value of a register
could be changed completely in the middle of an assembler command.

>
> > Moreover, your process will be stopped as soon as
> > sighandler gets its control.
>
>No, the sighandler is part of the process.  When a signal
>handler gets called, this is (simply speaking) like an
>asynchronous and non-foreseeable subroutine call.


If you are talking about process as something in UNIX, I agree
here, but I was talking about process as some essence in sense
of unit of concurrency.

>
> > This process is totally under your control
>
>No, it is not.  In particular, the compiler is unable to take
>it into consideration during register optimization.
>

Again, you missed my point - you as a programmer, not as
a compiler. You can mask signals.

> > [useless example with race-conditions deleted]
> > And vilotale doesn't help a bit!!!
>
>True, volatile does not help against typical race-conditions.
>That's not the purpose of volatile.  Volatile does not help


I was trying to underline it in all my letters. It shows, that
I am bad speaker:-)

>for basic synchronization, this is the programmer's task, but
>not the task of volatile.
>
>Without volatile, the programmer would be _completely_ unable
>to use global variables within signal handlers, because the
>compiler could hold their values in registers for an indefinite
>amount of time.
>
>In theory, if the processor hardware has enough registers,
>_all_ variables of the whole program could be held in registers
>during the _whole_ lifetime of the process.  There would be
>never a variable stored in memory.  This is perfectly legal,
>and a programmer whould have no chance to access them from
>within a signal handler.
>

You are wrong here again. I was a member of team that wrote compiler
allocating global variables in registers. And it worked. You,
except some special address scheme and speed there is no big difference
between memory and registers from the point of view of a compiler.

>Volatile is the only solution to that problem.  Therefore, it
>is necessary, and a compiler _must_ obey it.  It basically
>forbids register optimizations for that particular variable.
>

Hey, I stressed that in every my post - no synonyms.

> > Again, I let myself to cite BS book (p. 808) - "an object can change its
> > value
>
>"BS book"?  How about quoting from an authoritative reference?
>

OK, Bjarne Stroustrap is not authorative, even it's a base for standard
or created based on standard drafts?

> > in ways not specified by the language". In my mind, this is very careful
> > and strict statement.
>
>I'm sorry, but I think it's rather misleading.
>

Disagree, but it's my opinion.

> > Any ofthis book or article will show you how to live without
> > vilotile in async process environment.
>
>You cannot solve the problem without "volatile" which I've
>demonstrated above.
>
>The ANSI/ISO C standard is missing in your list of books.  ;-)


Yeap, I left almost all my books back in Russia, but I'll try to get it
(standard) as soon as I can. I listed only those I have now.

>I'd recommend that you read the section about "volatile".
>

could you cite for me?

>Yet another example (simplified):
>
>   extern int i;
>   extern int j;
>   void foo (void) { j = i * i;  j += i; }
>
>Compiled with ``cc -O3 -Wall -ansi -pedantic -c'', the result is:
>
>   movl   i,%eax
>   imull  %eax,%eax
>   addl   j,%eax
>   movl   %eax,0x0
>
>Note that there could be other, unrelated statements between
>those two, and the compiler would still be allowed to hold
>everything in registers, if possible.  If a signal handler
>is called at this point, you have three problems:
>
>1)  If it reads the variable j, it gets the wrong value,
>    because j has not been updated yet.
>2)  If it writes to i, the value would not be used by the
>    function after return from the signal handler.
>3)  If it writes to j, the value will be ignored and
>    overwritten after return from the signal handler.
>
>In short:  The whole thing breaks without volatile.
>
>Adding "volatile" to the declaration of i and j changes the
>code considerably:
>

See my other emails - almost the same.

>   movl   i,%eax
>   movl   i,%edx
>   imull  %edx,%eax
>   movl   %eax,j
>   movl   j,%eax
>   movl   i,%edx
>   addl   %edx,%eax
>   movl   %eax,j
>
>As you can see, now the contents of i and j are always
>consistent.  This code works fine, even when an asynchronous
>mechanism (signal handler, hardware, etc.) tries to access
>them at some point.
>

For Chrises sake tell me what is going to happen if you got
interrupted after first movl? Didn't you see that? It's exactly
what vilotile means - between two sequential reading you
can get different results. You will have one value on register
eax and completely differend on edx. Vilotile does help
you to avoid synonyms, but doesn't help you to solve your problem.
Don't tell me about C statement as a minimal execution part.
OS has ZERO knowledge about this fact and can deliver
interruption just after the first movl. In other words,
there is no warranty that j will always have value of
square of i. Vilotile tells to compiler (and to programmer)
that j can have a very strange result. And if compiler
will use synonyms for i, this result could be even more
strange (if I can say here more strange).



Oliver, I don't want to tell anybody - don't use vilotile.
Vilotile is very helpfull, but it's not enough to use it when
you have multiple handlers or even one handler.
You must mask signals in some regions of your program.

>Regards
>   Oliver
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Mikhail Evstiounin  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > From: Oliver Fromme 
 >>Delivery of a signal is, in essence, cause by a hardware
 >>interrupt, directly or indirectly.  It is what you call
 >>"totally async".
 > 
 > This is one part, but you missed another - value of a register
 > could be changed completely in the middle of an assembler command.

No.  Except if your processor is broken.  :-)

 >>No, the sighandler is part of the process.  When a signal
 >>handler gets called, this is (simply speaking) like an
 >>asynchronous and non-foreseeable subroutine call.
 > 
 > If you are talking about process as something in UNIX, I agree
 > here, but I was talking about process as some essence in sense
 > of unit of concurrency.

There is no concurrency.  Even if you have two processors,
the signal handler will not run in parallel to the "main"
part of the program.

 >>No, it is not.  In particular, the compiler is unable to take
 >>it into consideration during register optimization.
 > 
 > Again, you missed my point - you as a programmer, not as
 > a compiler. You can mask signals.

Yes, but that's completely unrelated to "volatile".
You have to mask signals to ensure proper synchronisation and
avoid race-conditions.  You're right about this.  This has
nothing to do with "volatile" and register optimizations.

But setting singal masks does not prevent those register
optimizations.  You _must_ use "volatile" for this.

 >>In theory, if the processor hardware has enough registers,
 >>_all_ variables of the whole program could be held in registers
 >>during the _whole_ lifetime of the process.  There would be
 >>never a variable stored in memory.  This is perfectly legal,
 >>and a programmer whould have no chance to access them from
 >>within a signal handler.
 > 
 > You are wrong here again.

Then please explain why you think so.
What I said is correct.

 > I was a member of team that wrote compiler
 > allocating global variables in registers. And it worked.

Was it a C compiler?  In that case I hope it supported
"volatile" correctly, otherwise it would be in violation
of the standard.

 > except some special address scheme and speed there is no big difference
 > between memory and registers from the point of view of a compiler.

Except that register optimizations are forbidden when a
variable has been declared as "volatile".

 >>"BS book"?  How about quoting from an authoritative reference?
 > 
 > OK, Bjarne Stroustrap is not authorative, even it's a base for standard
 > or created based on standard drafts?

I think we're talking about C, not C++.  I'm not familiar with
usage of "volatile" in C++ (and this was not the question).

 >>   movl   i,%eax
 >>   movl   i,%edx
 >>   imull  %edx,%eax
 >>   movl   %eax,j
 >>   movl   j,%eax
 >>   movl   i,%edx
 >>   addl   %edx,%eax
 >>   movl   %eax,j
 >>
 >>As you can see, now the contents of i and j are always
 >>consistent.  This code works fine, even when an asynchronous
 >>mechanism (signal handler, hardware, etc.) tries to access
 >>them at some point.
 >>
 > 
 > For Chrises sake tell me what is going to happen if you got
 > interrupted after first movl?

If the signal handler changes the value of "i" at that point,
then the second usage of "i" will get a different value than
the first usage, which is the _correct_ behaviour.

Without "volatile", the gcc code will always use the old value,
which is _not_ correct.  Even worse, the behaviour depends on
the compiler's optimizer -- it _might_ use the old value, or it
might not.

 > eax and completely differend on edx. Vilotile does help
 > you to avoid synonyms, but doesn't help you to solve your problem.

Excuse me?  It solves the problem.  The code does exactly what
it's supposed to do.

 > there is no warranty that j will always have value of
 > square of i.

Correct.  There is no such warranty, no matter if "i" is
declared as "volatile" or not.

If the signal handler changes the value of "i", the programmer
should know what he is doing.  If he wants to calculate the
square of "i", he should use a different way (i.e. using signal
masks).

 > Vilotile tells to compiler (and to programmer)
 > that j can have a very strange result.

That's completely wrong.

 > Oliver, I don't want to tell anybody - don't use vilotile.

Then you cannot use global variables within signal handlers
correctly.  I'm under the impression that you misunderstand
the purpose of "volatile".

Regards
   Oliver

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Hi,

I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE, I have just downloaded Sendmail 8.9 from their website and compiled it.  Sendmail 8.9 claims to deny relaying by default, but I'm finding people from outside our server are still able to relay via us.  Hope can I stop this?

Thanks,
Jason.

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Hi,

occationally, my small network does not work.  i have to 'shutdown -r now' to
bring it back to work.

the only clue is a message from ping which is

ping: sendto: No buffer space available

is there anyway to solve this kind of problem instead of shutdown ?

i am running freebsd -3.3 with de0.

TIA

rgds,
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Ok, I was sitting here trying to get vinum to work again.  I had it working fine
 but based on some feedback to my last e-mail about big file systems I was
 rearranging some things..  And now I can't get it to work.

If I remember right I had to edit the partition table using disklabel -e
 /dev/drivename and change the partition type to "vinum".   Well, I was trying
 to and something is screwy.  Whenever I try, vi opens up, I make some changes,
 and then I try to save.   I get the following:

disklabel: Operation not supported by device
re-edit the label? [y]: 

I'm confused.  This did not happen the last time I setup vinum.  What I want to
 do is concat /dev/wd2 and /dev/wd3.  But I can't even seem to get passed the
 first part of the process.

What am I missing here?  The drive that is now wd3 was one I used the last time
 I had vinum setup.  (wd2 is a new drive)    Both drives are on the same bus
 (the secondary IDE chain).  The primary chain has one drive on it and no slave.
  My boot drive is SCSI.

I'm running FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE on a dual P-II 400.   Come to think of it, when I
 tried vinum before I had 3.4 RELEASE.  Although I have doubts that it matters 
 (or should I say *hopes* that it doesn't matter.. :-).  But I figured I should
 mention it anyway.

l8r
Sean

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I have followed all the steps to install PHP-3.0.12  with the Apache_1.3.9
FreeBSD UNIX, but my PHP scripts are not show up in my browser and I am
being asked to save the file. Help!

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Ok,, well here is how it go's down...

#] /sbin/dump 0uf my.tapeserver.net:/dev/nrsa0 /
  DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Sun Jan 16 23:13:59 2000
  DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
  DUMP: Dumping /dev/hda2 (/) to /dev/nrsa0 on host my.tapeserver.net
  DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
  DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
  DUMP: estimated 51952 tape blocks on 1.34 tape(s).
/sbin/dump: Lost connection to remote host.
  DUMP: Bad return code from dump: 1
#]

The remote machine gives no log what so ever. rsh/rlogin works fine on
both machines and The FreeBSD machines on the network seem to dump just
fine. No idea where to go since there is no real log of anything.
Any thoughts?

Keith



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>  wrote:
> 
> > Any solutions for getting a linux machine to dump over the network to my
> > freebsd machine with all the tape devices in it?
> 
> No. Just works for me.
> 
> > The linux machines don't seem to want to do it. 
> 
> That's unfortunate. I mean, if there was some kind of error we
> could try to figure out what's going wrong, but if it is just the
> will of the machine nothing can be done about it, I guess.
> 
> -- 
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Have you ever used AMANDA, the backup software?

One caveat listed in their documentation is the problem of
restarting inetd. They claim that restarting inetd (or a kill -HUP)
will cause the socket to hang, and become unusable.

I have seen this problem with amanda, but *only* with amanda. All
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Is there something special that a inetd client needs to do to ensure
that they properly release the socket when inetd is killed or re-hupped?

Here's the inetd.conf entry for amanda...

    amanda  dgram   udp     wait    backup  /usr/local/libexec/amandad      amandad
    
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Hi,

1) Novell BorderManager is based on Squid or was in the beginning.
2) It gets an additional boost because Novell is really a big caching 
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3) If the company uses NDS for user login then Bordermanager will allow
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I myself would use squid if price was an issue and if it would be the only
Novell server in the environment, otherwise I would go BorderManager. Novell 
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I've just inherited a dumb terminal.  I thought it would a nice idea to hook
it up to my FreeBSD machine, freeing up a VGA monitor for more needful
projects.  Only I seem to be unable to get the damn thing to work.

I made a new null-modem cable - no joy.

I played with all the settings i could think of - still nothing.

I tested the terminal by hooking it up to my modem - worked fine.

I then hooked the modem up to my FreeBSD box - and couldn't get this to work
either.

I even opened the PC to check the ribbon cables were connected - they were.

I then gave up.

I then got irritated that a computer had managed to get the better of me.
So I had another go.  Nothing.

In a final act of desperation I tried the terminal to my "old" FreeBSD
machine (running 2.2.5_RELEASE).  It worked.  So did my modem.


So.  Either 3.2_RELEASE has a problem or my hardware is busted.  Or there is
some incompatability somewhere.

FreeBSD detects the UARTs on boot, and all the other checking I've done
suggests there is no problem.  I've tested the serial port in DOS and it
seems fine, so it's not hardware.  However, I have now reached the limit of
my knowlege I'm at a loss how to sort this problem out.  So...

Can some kind person please help.


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I had checked it and it already has 2 lines :

AddType application/x-httpd-php3 .phtml .php3
AddType application/x-httpd-php3-source .phps .php3s

When I run "/usr/local/sbin/httpd -l" it  showed
  Compiled-in modules:
  http_core.c
  mod_so.c
  mod_php3.c

So I don't know what's wrong ? Do I have to config anything else ?

----- Original Message -----
From: Alexander V P 
To: Ms. Tasnaporn Vongvichialchai 
Cc: FreeBSD Questions 
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: Browser isn't understand my php scripts ! !


> check in httpd.con if there's definion for php3.
> look for AddType application/x-httpd-php3 .php3
> hope it helps
> alex
>
> On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Ms. Tasnaporn Vongvichialchai wrote:
>
> > I have followed all the steps to install PHP-3.0.12  with the
Apache_1.3.9
> > FreeBSD UNIX, but my PHP scripts are not show up in my browser and I am
> > being asked to save the file. Help!
> >
> > =====================================
> > Ha
> >
> >
> >
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Open httpd.conf in your favourite text editor.

Find the "AddModule" directives.

Add the line 

	AddModule mod_php3.c

to the end of the list.

Restart Apache.


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Ms. Tasnaporn
> Vongvichialchai
> Sent: 17 January 2000 09:20
> To: Alexander V P
> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: Browser isn't understand my php scripts ! !
> 
> 
> I had checked it and it already has 2 lines :
> 
> AddType application/x-httpd-php3 .phtml .php3
> AddType application/x-httpd-php3-source .phps .php3s
> 
> When I run "/usr/local/sbin/httpd -l" it  showed
>   Compiled-in modules:
>   http_core.c
>   mod_so.c
>   mod_php3.c
> 
> So I don't know what's wrong ? Do I have to config anything else ?
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alexander V P 
> To: Ms. Tasnaporn Vongvichialchai 
> Cc: FreeBSD Questions 
> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 3:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Browser isn't understand my php scripts ! !
> 
> 
> > check in httpd.con if there's definion for php3.
> > look for AddType application/x-httpd-php3 .php3
> > hope it helps
> > alex
> >
> > On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Ms. Tasnaporn Vongvichialchai wrote:
> >
> > > I have followed all the steps to install PHP-3.0.12  with the
> Apache_1.3.9
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Hello and Sorry for this question, rat V4.0.4 works fine .It was just a
tuning problem
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"Morten Seeberg"  writes:

> I tried contacting the freebsd-doc mailinglist, because I wanted to make
> some notes on how to use the Compaq equipment in Compaq servers and non
> Compaq servers, but noone answered my letters, so I guess its not
> interesting to get such an add-on to the faq or handbook.
> 
> I would then explain how to install BSD onto the controller, how to
> configure the controller on non CPQ systems, and later try to make a package
> wheneven I managed to get the Array config utility to work under fx wine.

I, for one, am interested. I plan to buy a Prolinat 1600 this week. From
what I've read in the mailinglist, I don't expect any trouble, once I've
set up the controller with the Compaq diask and built a suitable FreeBSD
'ida' bootdisk. However, I'd like to hear further experiences with this
hardware.

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It is necessary to transfer a modem pool. From one computer on another.
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Old pool on BSD.

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However, I have problems doing that right now.  I would be glad if you =
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                                               Monday, January 17, 2000
   As the subject suggests I am connected to the internet from a private
network (192.168.0.0 address space) through a FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE box with
two NICs (one for the inside, one for the out) which is running ipf
( IP-Filter http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~avalon/ip-filter.html ) and ipnat to
get me out. What I want to do now is set up an ftp server on one of my
internal boxes to be reachable by someone else on the net behind an unknown
firewall.
         I am on the @Home network and as such I cannot run daemons on their
standard < 1023 ports due to some questionable network policies decreed by
@Home so I have to redirect some_high_port on the external interface to my
ftp port in the internal machine to get connections to the server.
    This works well for someone NOT behind a firewall using active ftp
sessions. Passive ftp sessions break possibly due to the fact that ipnat
doesn't know it's dealing with an ftp connection and libalias can't take the
appropriate steps to ensure the FTP connection goes through.
    This does not work at all for someone behind a firewall because the PORT
command chokes with a "530 Only client IP..", PASV breaks because you can't
route 192.168.0.0 on the net and if I tell the server to issue the outside
address for PASV it fails as well because my NAT box doesn't know it's
speaking FTP.

   I need to know how to either hack libalias to acknowledge FTP connections
on a non-standard port, how to set up ipf/ipnat rules to enable either active
or passive FTP connections on a non-standard port or any other way I could
get this setup working without putting the outside port number down where it
belongs.

    I have already perused the list archives and I haven't found much helpful
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Dear Sirs/Madams,

I need to read the encripted passwd field in Linux
before converting to Free BSD format, and I have some
problem here.

This is the documents I read from man 5 passwd form
Free BSD 2.2.7

BEGIN HERE
.............
   The passwd files are files consisting of newline
separated records, one per user, containing ten colon
(``:'') separated fields. These fields are as follows:

      name   User's login name.

      password User's encrypted password.

      uid    User's id.

      gid    User's login group id.

      class   User's login class.

      change  Password change time.
      
      expire  Account expiration time.
      
      gecos   General information about the user.
      
      home_dir User's home directory.
      
      shell   User's login shell.

.............

The password field is the encrypted form of the
password. If the
password field is empty, no password will be required
to gain access to the machine. This is almost
invariably a mistake. Because these files
contain the encrypted user passwords, they should not
be readable by anyone without appropriate privileges.
Administrative accounts have a password field
containing an asterisk `*' which disallows normal
logins.

.............
BUGS

   User information should (and eventually will) be
stored elsewhere.
   
   The YP/NIS password database makes encrypted
passwords visible to ordinary users, thus making
password cracking easier unless you use shadow
passwords with the master.passwd maps and FreeBSD's
ypserv(8) server.

   Unless you're using FreeBSD's ypserv(8) server?,
which supports the use of master.passwd type maps, the
YP/NIS password database will be in old
style (Sixth Edition) format, which means that
site-wide values for user login class, password
expiration date, and other fields present in the
current format will not be available when a FreeBSD
system is used as a  client with a standard NIS
server.


COMPATIBILITY
   The password file format has changed since 4.3BSD.
The following awk
 script can be used to convert your old-style password
file into a new
 style password file. The additional fields ``class'',
``change'' and ``expire'' are added, but are turned
off by default. These fields can then be set using
vipw(8) or pw(8).

      BEGIN { FS = ":"}

      { print $1 ":" $2 ":" $3 ":" $4 "::0:0:" $5 ":"
$6 ":" $7 }

END HERE.

When I connect as root in Free BSD, I could read the
encripted passwd field by using vipw, that really open
the master.passwd. This file is very similar to passwd
file except that the encripted passwd field  can be
seen. In Turbo Linux, there is no such master.passwd
file and I could not read the encripted passwd field.
I need to copy passwd file from Linux to Free BSD,
converting the format and would like reserving this
encripted passwd field. I can not check if this passwd
field reserve or not unless I could read this field
from both Linux and Free BSD.

I would like to know what is the default encript
engine of Free BSD and Linux ? If they diffrent, how
can I convert this field without losting any
information ?

I would like how to view all 10 fields on passwd file
in Free BSD because I just see 7 fields in this file.
As the document, I can not see 10 field if I do not
run ypserv(8) server.I do not know how to run this
server and turn on 3 new fields which default turn
off. Although to the document I can use the vipw(8) or
pw(8) to do that, I try run ypserv, and vipw but I
just see 7 fields. Please help me step by step if you
could.

Thank you very much for all your responses,

Nguyen Manh Tho.
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I've updated my ports tree and sources, and used make
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On Sunday, 16 January 2000 at 23:53:48 +0100, Olaf Seibert wrote:
> On Sun 16 Jan 2000 at 20:54:03 +0100, rene@xs4all.nl wrote:
>
> Since it looks like the only thing that you really do by hand is:
>
>> bash-2.02# mount /dev/vinum/myvol /mnt/large
>
> putting it in /etc/fstab should be enough. Something like
>
> # filesys     mount point       type    access                  dump    fsck
> # location                              + opts                  freq    pass
>
> /dev/vinum/myvol /mnt/large     ffs     rw                      1       2
>
> should do it.

Correct.

> Unless maybe this tries to mount it too early in the boot sequence.

No, that should be fine.

> -Olaf (none of this is vinum-sprecific, by te way).

Indeed.

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> We hope you would answer some questions we may have about Free BSD. It
sounds like a great product and we would like some clarity.

It is a great product.  The more I learn about it the greater I think it is.

> We are presently running Windows 98 as well as other MS product software.
Being an operating system, would Free BSD replace Windows, supplement or
otherwise be found as a replacement for the DOS.

On the literal level, FreeBSD is a replacement for Windows and/or DOS, in
that all three are operating systems.  On FreeBSD, as in Windows and, to a
certain extent, DOS, you can compose documents, you can use spreadsheets,
you can make presentations, you can read and send e-mail and you can surf.
But not with your Microsoft products like Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Outlook
and Internet Explorer.  There may be Windows and DOS emulation in FreeBSD
but why run an emulator on FreeBSD when you have a very good Windows 98
setup?

However, on the practical level, for the 90% of the computer using public,
who use Microsoft or Apple products and don't want to know what goes on
under the hood, FreeBSD is not where they want to be, nor is any UNIX, not
even Linux.

And having now tried to frighten you completely, let me say that, if you
would like some fun, give it a try on a spare machine, and see what you
think.

> Another question would be how greatly improved will security be from
hackers (we were hit once before)? And if not,would you have any
recommendations for security and fire wall?

Neither the one nor the other is intrinsically safe in itself.  They have to
be made safe.  I have the strong feeling here that Microsoft products are
designed with functionality as of paramount importance and security in very
much of a Cinderella role.  And it is in this area that you could derive
great benefit from FreeBSD, if you used it to protect your Microsoft
environment, by using FreeBSD and firewall software on a machine between
your Internet Service Provider and your internal network.

> And the final question- if we decide to persue with Free BSD, could you
tell us the price for the CDROM (we have a Creative Labs 8X CDROM drive) and
to whom we can send a check as well as the time expected time frame for
delivery?

ca US$40 from http://www.cdrom.com but I don't know about delivery time.

mvh/regards

James




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> I, for one, am interested. I plan to buy a Prolinat 1600 this week. From
> what I've read in the mailinglist, I don't expect any trouble, once I've
> set up the controller with the Compaq diask and built a suitable FreeBSD
> 'ida' bootdisk. However, I'd like to hear further experiences with this
> hardware.

Well, at the moment I havent had much time to play around with it, but I am
planning some tests, because I really dont think my filesystem is as fast as
expected. Im running on 4  9Gb 10K RPM disks, and except when copying 100+MB
files to /dev/null (approx 18Mb / s) i dont get much faster acx than 2-4Mb /
s, which I have seen better (this is on 3.4-RELEASE).

Also the searchtime is very slow, and a script like
/etc/periodic/weekly/310.blabla which I thought would be much faster, isn´t
compared to a regular IDE disk. But also normal system usage (this is my
workstation) doesn´t seem to have speeded up much.
I tried experimenting with SOFTOPTIONS, no luck.



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On 17-Jan-00 aunty wrote:
> I've updated my ports tree and sources, and used make
> installworld to upgrade a few other machines over NFS.
> Those machines still have ancient ports.
> 
> What's the best way to update their ports trees from my
> newly cvsupped one, over the local network?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Regards,
>         -*Sue*-

You COULD turn one machine into a cvsup-server and start from there.

But the EASIEST way would be to simply delete the ports tree (/usr/ports) on the
other machines and copy in the new one. It'll take some time and eat some
bandwidth, but I believe it would be easiest. The 'local' bandwidth is certain
to be larger than pulling it from the internet anyway.

/Micke

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For ICQ, simply install the socks5 port, and tell ICQ you're using a socks5
firewall, pointing it to the address of your NAT box.  I do this, and it
works perfectly for me.

 -Christian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Ben WIlliams
> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 7:11 AM
> To: FreeBSD questions
> Subject: Private network + IP-Filter + IP-NAT + internal ftpd
>
>
>                                                Monday, January 17, 2000
>    As the subject suggests I am connected to the internet from a private
> network (192.168.0.0 address space) through a FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE box with
> two NICs (one for the inside, one for the out) which is running ipf
> ( IP-Filter http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~avalon/ip-filter.html ) and ipnat to
> get me out. What I want to do now is set up an ftp server on one of my
> internal boxes to be reachable by someone else on the net behind
> an unknown
> firewall.
>          I am on the @Home network and as such I cannot run
> daemons on their
> standard < 1023 ports due to some questionable network policies decreed by
> @Home so I have to redirect some_high_port on the external interface to my
> ftp port in the internal machine to get connections to the server.
>     This works well for someone NOT behind a firewall using active ftp
> sessions. Passive ftp sessions break possibly due to the fact that ipnat
> doesn't know it's dealing with an ftp connection and libalias
> can't take the
> appropriate steps to ensure the FTP connection goes through.
>     This does not work at all for someone behind a firewall
> because the PORT
> command chokes with a "530 Only client IP..", PASV breaks because
> you can't
> route 192.168.0.0 on the net and if I tell the server to issue the outside
> address for PASV it fails as well because my NAT box doesn't know it's
> speaking FTP.
>
>    I need to know how to either hack libalias to acknowledge FTP
> connections
> on a non-standard port, how to set up ipf/ipnat rules to enable
> either active
> or passive FTP connections on a non-standard port or any other way I could
> get this setup working without putting the outside port number
> down where it
> belongs.
>
>     I have already perused the list archives and I haven't found
> much helpful
> info for getting back in on redirected (non-standard) ports for FTP.
>
> TIA,
> --
>  Ben                                      mailto:williamsl@Home.Com
>
> PS -- If anyone has any pointers on getting ICQ to do direct connections
>       (chat, file x-fer, etc) in the same configuration
>       ( myhost <-> NAT <-> 'net <-> firewall <-> otherhost )
>       I would appreciate any info you can give me!
>
>
>
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Hija Olaf,

Sunday, January 16, 2000, 23:53:48, you seem to have written:
OS> On Sun 16 Jan 2000 at 20:54:03 +0100, rene@xs4all.nl wrote:

OS> Since it looks like the only thing that you really do by hand is:

>> bash-2.02# mount /dev/vinum/myvol /mnt/large

OS> putting it in /etc/fstab should be enough. Something like

OS> # filesys     mount point       type    access                  dump    fsck
OS> # location                              + opts                  freq    pass

OS> /dev/vinum/myvol /mnt/large     ffs     rw                      1       2

OS> should do it. Unless maybe this tries to mount it too early in the boot
OS> sequence. In that case, make it

OS> /dev/vinum/myvol /mnt/large     ffs     rw,noauto               1       2

OS> so that the initial mount -a will not try to mount it yet, and put the
OS> following in /etc/rc.local:

OS> mount /mnt/large

>> Greetings, 
>>  rene 

OS> -Olaf (none of this is vinum-sprecific, by te way).
Thanx for your reply. However, it didn't quite fix it; (after booting)

bash-2.02# mount /mnt/large
mount: exec mount_ffs not found in /sbin, /usr/sbin: No such file or directory

if I change the type field in /etc/fstab to 'ufs' instead of 'ffs', I
get a filesystemcheck error; /dev/vinum/rmyvol: device not configured

this is probably coz at that time, vinum hasn't started yet.
for completeness, the line from fstab:
/dev/vinum/myvol        /mnt/large      ufs     rw,noauto       1       2



Greetings,
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On 16-Jan-00 Kenneth D. Merry wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 14:25:17 -0800, Rick Hamell wrote:
>> 
>> > I have a 200 MHz K6 system (FBSD 3.2), Adaptec 2940UW SCSI-adaptor and
>> > Seagate
>> > ST19171W Hard disk. The Seagate (Barracuda 9) disk is specced to up to 40
>> > Mbytes/sec Max sync. SCSI transfer rate. But whatever tests I run (copying
>> > large files to and fro, dd from disk to /dev/null for example) the actual
>> > speed
>> > is never more than around 0.5 MB/s according to 'systat -io 1' or 'systat
>> > -vm
>> > 1'.
>> > 
>> > Is there a knob to turn to speed it up or is this a bottleneck due to the
>> > processor?
>> 
>>      I've noticed that the Adaptec 2940UW seems to be a fairly slow
>> card, at this point I'm pulling every single one I come across and
>> replacing with Tekram cards. The biggest differance I saw was doing a
>> drive mirror under Novell 3.12 a couple of weeks ago. Dual 2940s with
>> their own seperate drives took 3 hours. Using the exact same model drive
>> and two of the Tekram cards took under 20 minutes. Under FreeBSD I've seen
>> similar performance. :(
> 
> That certainly hasn't been my experience.  The only thing I can figure is
> that you've got things misconfigured somehow.  Your problem under Novell
> is likely a driver issue of some sort.
> 
> I'm sure the Tekram cards will perform fine, assuming you get NCR/Symbios
> based boards.  Make sure you use the 'sym' driver, since the 'ncr' driver
> is fairly buggy, and somewhat lacking in the error recovery department.
> 
> The original poster's speed problems are due to the speed of the drive, and
> have nothing to do with the controller.  Just because a drive's bus speed
> is 40MB/sec doesn't mean the heads/media can push the bits that fast.  The
> Barracuda 9 is a fairly old drive, but I would think it would be able to do
> more than 5MB/sec.
> 
> To test it out, try something like this:
> 
> dd if=/dev/rda0 of=/dev/null bs=1m count=2048
>
> You have to make the blocksize big enough in order to get any performance.

Apparently! That gave some 3.5Meg/second. Without the bs=1m stuff it peaked
around 660 k/sec. Surprisingly similar to what a file to /dev/null runs at. 

Perhaps there is no problem at all then! Sure made me happy!

Thanks for your help!
/Micke

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> We're pretty sure we have fenced this bug in now.  It only applies to
> IDE drives using the wd driver in CHS mode.  If you use the at driver
> (due for release in 4.0-RELEASE), or use the wd driver in LBA mode,
> you won't have this problem.  Nobody has reported problems running IDE
> drives under vinum, though I suspect the problem would occur there as
> well.

I have.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Oliver Fromme 
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Date: Monday, January 17, 2000 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: Volatile variables


>
>No.  Except if your processor is broken.  :-)


Oliver, what about timer registers or serial interface registers?
what about mapped video memory or shared memory in multi
CPU system?

>
>There is no concurrency.  Even if you have two processors,
>the signal handler will not run in parallel to the "main"
>part of the program.
>

I agree completely, I was trying to stress a difference  between sighandler
and threads and unix processes.


> >>No, it is not.  In particular, the compiler is unable to take
> >>it into consideration during register optimization.
> >
> > Again, you missed my point - you as a programmer, not as
> > a compiler. You can mask signals.
>
>Yes, but that's completely unrelated to "volatile".
>You have to mask signals to ensure proper synchronisation and
>avoid race-conditions.  You're right about this.  This has
>nothing to do with "volatile" and register optimizations.
>
>But setting singal masks does not prevent those register
>optimizations.  You _must_ use "volatile" for this.
>

In a way, how you proposed - yes, but it's not enough.

> >>In theory, if the processor hardware has enough registers,
> >>_all_ variables of the whole program could be held in registers
> >>during the _whole_ lifetime of the process.  There would be
> >>never a variable stored in memory.  This is perfectly legal,
> >>and a programmer whould have no chance to access them from
> >>within a signal handler.
> >
> > You are wrong here again.
>
>Then please explain why you think so.
>What I said is correct.
>

You were wrong about registers, it's possible to write compiler/loader to
support it. GNU C doesn't support it, but, in my mind we were talking about
vilotile in general - without relationship to a particular compiler. If you
were talking about gcc and FreeBSD only, then I should say sorry, I
misunderstood you.



> > I was a member of team that wrote compiler
> > allocating global variables in registers. And it worked.
>
>Was it a C compiler?  In that case I hope it supported
>"volatile" correctly, otherwise it would be in violation
>of the standard.
>

Yeap, and C also. And we supported vilotile in a sense no synonyms, no
copies. Probably, that the fact  I used 'synonym' is bad one. It was (is?) a
slang. Remember - synonyms two words with same meaning - you can have two
copies of value with the same contents - as I understood, this is exactly
you refered as a register optimization. But we did allocate some variables
on registers - and this is a register optimization. We were fortunate enough
to write the whole system and wrote very smart linker/loader which could
understand register allocation and change command apropriately.

> > except some special address scheme and speed there is no big difference
> > between memory and registers from the point of view of a compiler.
>
>Except that register optimizations are forbidden when a
>variable has been declared as "volatile".


Oliver, this is my point - there  could be other register optimizations and
if your system smart enough it could be used - I just don't like to forbid
all register optimization. Take a look at PDP-11 - here you can address
registers as usual with register number aor you can address them by using
special addresses in memory - it's very easy to provide register
optimization compatible with vilotile.

>
> >>"BS book"?  How about quoting from an authoritative reference?
> >
> > OK, Bjarne Stroustrap is not authorative, even it's a base for standard
> > or created based on standard drafts?
>
>I think we're talking about C, not C++.  I'm not familiar with
>usage of "volatile" in C++ (and this was not the question).
>
> >>   movl   i,%eax
> >>   movl   i,%edx
> >>   imull  %edx,%eax
> >>   movl   %eax,j
> >>   movl   j,%eax
> >>   movl   i,%edx
> >>   addl   %edx,%eax
> >>   movl   %eax,j
> >>
> >>As you can see, now the contents of i and j are always
> >>consistent.  This code works fine, even when an asynchronous
> >>mechanism (signal handler, hardware, etc.) tries to access
> >>them at some point.
> >>
> >
> > For Chrises sake tell me what is going to happen if you got
> > interrupted after first movl?
>
>If the signal handler changes the value of "i" at that point,
>then the second usage of "i" will get a different value than
>the first usage, which is the _correct_ behaviour.
>

Aga, this is exactly what I was talking about - two sequential reads of
variable could give you different results - that's why using vilotile is not
enough. That's why this is synchronization problem. Yes this is correct
behavior, but it doesn't help to solve original problem. It's necessary part
in way how it's prpoposed to solve, but it's not enough.

>Without "volatile", the gcc code will always use the old value,
>which is _not_ correct.  Even worse, the behaviour depends on
>the compiler's optimizer -- it _might_ use the old value, or it
>might not.
>
> > eax and completely differend on edx. Vilotile does help
> > you to avoid synonyms, but doesn't help you to solve your problem.
>
>Excuse me?  It solves the problem.  The code does exactly what
>it's supposed to do.



Correct if I am wrong, but original question was how to work with global
file pointer from a sighandler. And I considered that this file pointer is a
global resource and you have a problem in sighandler to be interrupted by
amother sighandler and this another sighandler could use the same file
pointer. Or you can get signal in main program while it's working with file
pointer and get access to it from sighandler.

>
> > there is no warranty that j will always have value of
> > square of i.
>
>Correct.  There is no such warranty, no matter if "i" is
>declared as "volatile" or not.
>
>If the signal handler changes the value of "i", the programmer
>should know what he is doing.  If he wants to calculate the
>square of "i", he should use a different way (i.e. using signal
>masks).

or m = i; j = m*m; :-) create your own copy.

>
> > Vilotile tells to compiler (and to programmer)
> > that j can have a very strange result.
>
>That's completely wrong.

So, if programmer wites j = i * i; (s)he doesn't expect to get a square? I
understand, that according to standard vilotile means it, but it's not
intuitive. That's why I told that vilotile tells to compiler and to
programmer - expect something strange.


>
> > Oliver, I don't want to tell anybody - don't use vilotile.
>
>Then you cannot use global variables within signal handlers
>correctly.  I'm under the impression that you misunderstand
>the purpose of "volatile".
>

Nope, I believe, my understanding of vilotile is OK, but I am not
attributing to it more than it deserves.

I think you see this way of communicating with sighandler as the only way. I
believe, there are many more. But it's not easy, you should work with async
safe functions and write a special stuff to work with sharable resources and
avoid deadlocks (and it's very easy to get them with sighandlers). All this
stuff is pretty common if you are in concurrent programming (it doesn't make
any difference if this is threads or processes - theory is still the same).
But using vilotile plus sigblock/sisetmask is enough to get out without any
troubles and without using a pretty complex theory.

>Regards
>   Oliver
>
>--
>Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany
>(Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de)
>
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>                                         (Terry Pratchett)
>
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To: Duke Normandin <01031149@3web.net>
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On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 06:24:04PM -0700, Duke Normandin wrote:
>
> What criterion (ia) are used for determining the use of ipfw or natd
> in creating a firewall? TIA..

You can use both on the same `firewall'.

They are two different programs, with a different purpose each.

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On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 06:56:05PM +0200, Oren Sarig wrote:
>
> WindowMaker was nice, but the reason I dropped it (drums, please)....
> I want that bar on the bottom I can choose what window I want from.
> Seriously, when I have 10 windows open, it's a real pain (you know
> where) finding the one you need without that bar. When the selection
> came between KDE and GNOME, I picked GNOME because (drums again)...
> GTK looks nicer than QT. Seriously, GNOME is a whole lot more stable
> now, and offers about the same features as KDE, so there is no big
> difference.

Since you like Gnome and WindowMaker can be made to work beautifully
with it, I thought I'd just drop my note on that window bar thing. 
It's only a matter of pressing F11 in WindowMaker to get your usual,
scrolly, themed menu with the active windows ;)

Ciao.

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On Sat, Jan 15, 2000 at 03:01:22PM -0800, Frankie Li wrote:
> Hi,	
> 	I was adding FreeBSD source yesterday, and while copying the
> source from the CD to hard drive, I was able to switch (using alt-Fx)
> to another login and login as root without any password.  I have yet
> to try reproducing the problem because it was a computer at school, but
> I attempted the login several of times in different login terminals, and
> the same thing resulted.
> 
> I have FreeBSD 3.3-Release, burn from the iso from ftp.cdrom.com.

While doing the installation, did you boot from the installation media? 
Because, I think, the /etc/master.passwd of the installation CDROM does
not have any password... and for a good reason, too.

Ciao.

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On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 02:54:51AM +0300, Dementsov Alexey wrote:
>
> I would be very grateful if you could give some information about
> configuration ppp for remote access from Microsoft client to FreeBSD
> server.

Chapter 14 of the Handbook (Serial Communications) contains some
information which you must find helpful.

Another part of the Handbook that seems relevant and contains very
detailed information is chapter 15 (PPP and SLIP).

Of course, the Pedantic PPP Primer found at http://www.freebsd.org/ in
the tutorials section is always a nice thing to have too.

Ciao.

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Hi,

I downloaded the the two floppy programs,(FreeBSD 3.3 kern.flp, =
mfsboot.flp)
 and followed install instructions.

All seems to go well until I'm told I need to set the time zone; It goes =
to the next step without  giving the opportunity to set it.

Same thing with setting up root.

Then it allows me to set up other users, but when I complete one I get =
an error message; "pw has encountered an unexpected status 99" and =
dosn't take any data.

System is a 586/133 w/16MB 520MB hard Drive

I'm new to unix but not PCs

Thanks for any help!

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Hi,


 


I downloaded the the two floppy programs,(FreeBSD =
3.3=20
kern.flp, mfsboot.flp)


 and followed install =
instructions.


 


All seems to go well until I'm told I need to set =
the time=20
zone; It goes to the next step without  giving the opportunity to =
set=20
it.


 


Same thing with setting up root.


 


Then it allows me to set up other users, but when I =
complete=20
one I get an error message; "pw has encountered an unexpected status 99" =
and=20
dosn't take any data.


 


System is a 586/133 w/16MB 520MB hard =
Drive


 


I'm new to unix but not PCs


 


Thanks for any help!


 


Carl


 


 


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On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 06:46:38PM +1300, Dan Langille wrote:
> I recently upgraded to OpenSSH 1.2.1 from OpenSSH 1.2.  Incoming 
> connections are being refused, even from localhost.
> 
> $ ssh -v localhost
> SSH Version OpenSSH-1.2.1, protocol version 1.5.
> Compiled with SSL.
> debug: Reading configuration data /usr/local/etc/ssh_config
> debug: ssh_connect: getuid 0 geteuid 0 anon 0
> debug: Connecting to localhost [127.0.0.1] port 22.
> debug: Allocated local port 1014.
> debug: Connection established.
> ssh_exchange_identification: read: No such file or directory
> debug: Calling cleanup 0x805359c(0x0)
> 
> I'm on FreeBSD 3.3-19991207-SNAP.  My first guess was 
> /etc/hosts.allow, but that contains "sshd : ALL : allow"
> 
> Any ideas?

When make a successful connection via SSH, the debug messages that
follow the "Connection established" message are,

  debug: Remote protocol version 1.5, remote software version OpenSSH-1.2
  debug: Waiting for server public key.
  debug: Received server public key (768 bits) and host key (1024 bits).

You would not have happened to have lost your server keys
(/usr/local/etc/ssh_host_key*) during the upgrade?
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We got homework to implement shell.I am ready so far .So this mail is not
begging for doing my work by anyone else :)).We got some solution pattern
from out teacher suggesting following:

void do_with_time(int argc,char * argv [])//function for doing it.
{
clock_t start ,end ;
struct tm tnt ;
pid_t pid1 ,pid2 //YTou already see here it is about using two forks.

if(argc > 1)//we expect the coomand proper as well

{
  pid1 = fork()
  switch(pid1)
  {
   case -1 :
   /* fear ,fire ,foes */
   case 0 :
   {  
      start = times(&tnt);
      pid2  = fork()
      switch(pid2)
      {
        case -1 :
        /* fear fire ,foes */
        case 0 :
        {
        execvp(argv[1],&argv[1]);
        printf("You should never see me!");
        }
        default:
        waitpid(pid,NULL,NULL) //quick and dirty
        end = times(&tnt);
        /* kind 
        printf(Real time is difference between end and start);
        printf(System time is &time.tms_cstime);//evaluation order is
        //surely against us
    }//end of second switch
   default :
   waitpid(pid,NULL,NULL);
  }//end of first switch
}//end of if
else
printf(You need at least two to dance tango);
What i do not understand is why you need two fork's() already provided
with waitpid()and so having mechanism for waiting for well-defined
child,so eliminating the danger of cumulating the childrens' time
in tms structrue.I would understand with wait() only.But here I guess
I need a little help from you.

kind regards,
Ariel

        
   
        



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On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 10:22:04PM -0800, Jason McKay wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE, I have just downloaded Sendmail 8.9 from their website and compiled it.  Sendmail 8.9 claims to deny relaying by default, but I'm finding people from outside our server are still able to relay via us.  Hope can I stop this?

Besides building the new sendmail executable, did you actually change
your /etc/sendmail.cf file? That configuration file is what actually
controls forwarding.

See the cf/README file in your sendmail source code and
http://www.sendmail.org has some helpful resources.
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From: Trond Endrestol 
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Subject: Problems accessing the tapestreamer
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Hi,

After cvsup'ped to 3.4-stable, recompiling and reinstalling, I can no
longer access the tapestreamer. I tried booting with the old
3.3-GENERIC kernel and everything works OK with that kernel.
There's no problem with mt or tar, it's kernel related.

Our tapestreamer is identified at reboot as
sa0:  Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device 
sa0: 7.812MB/s transfers (7.812MHz, offset 15)
And it's made by Seagate.

Trying to use mt status with a valid tape inserted results in both
LEDs turned on (both the yellow and the green) and mt hangs. The only
way to kill mt is to hit the eject button on the streamer.

Below is the current dmesg output and the current kernel configuration
file. The kernel configuration file was based on the GENERIC file from
3.3-release and I see no functional difference between the current
kernel configuration file and the current GENERIC file.

Perhaps there's some problem with the sa driver.

Does someone have a clue?

BTW, do I need the pass0 device?

--

Here's the complete dmesg output:

Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc.
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
	The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE #0: Wed Jan 12 16:30:34 CET 2000
    root@ramstind.gtf.ol.no:/usr/src/sys/compile/RAMSTIND
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 451025054 Hz
CPU: Pentium III (451.03-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x673  Stepping = 3
  Features=0x383f9ff>
real memory  = 134217728 (131072K bytes)
avail memory = 127696896 (124704K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02bd000.
Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc02bd09c.
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
chip0:  rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0
chip1:  rev 0x03 on pci0.1.0
chip2:  rev 0x02 on pci0.7.0
chip3:  rev 0x02 on pci0.7.3
xl0: <3Com 3c900B-COMBO Etherlink XL> rev 0x04 int a irq 9 on pci0.11.0
xl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:da:3b:23:2d
xl0: autonegotiation not supported
ahc0:  rev 0x00 int a irq 5 on pci0.13.0
ahc0: aic7890/91 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs
Probing for devices on PCI bus 1:
vga0:  rev 0x7a int a irq 11 on pci1.0.0
Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
sc0 on isa
sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard
atkbd0 irq 1 on isa
psm0 irq 12 on isa
psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa
sio1: type 16550A
fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in
wdc0 not found at 0x1f0
wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa
wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, intr, dma, iordis
acd0: drive speed 0 - 8250KB/sec, 128KB cache
acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA, packet track
acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels
acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray
acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked
ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa
ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
lpt0:  on ppbus 0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0:  on ppbus 0
plip0:  on ppbus 0
vga0 at 0x3c0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa
npx0 on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
sa0:  Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device 
sa0: 7.812MB/s transfers (7.812MHz, offset 15)
da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
da0:  Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device 
da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da0: 8761MB (17942584 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1116C)
changing root device to da0s1a

--

And here's the current kernel configuration file:

#
# RAMSTIND -- Konfigurasjonsfil for ramstind.gtf.ol.no
#             trond, 1999-11-23, basert på
# GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks
#
# For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on
# Kernel Configuration Files:
#
#    http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
#
# The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook
# if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the
# FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/) for the
# latest information.
#
# An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the
# device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are
# in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT.
#
# $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.143.2.22 1999/09/14 22:53:30 jkh Exp $

machine		"i386"
#cpu		"I386_CPU"
#cpu		"I486_CPU"
#cpu		"I586_CPU"
cpu		"I686_CPU"
ident		RAMSTIND
maxusers	32

#options 	MATH_EMULATE		#Support for x87 emulation
options 	INET			#InterNETworking
options 	FFS			#Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options 	FFS_ROOT		#FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
options 	MFS			#Memory Filesystem
options 	MFS_ROOT		#MFS usable as root device, "MFS" req'ed
options 	NFS			#Network Filesystem
options 	NFS_ROOT		#NFS usable as root device, "NFS" req'ed
options 	MSDOSFS			#MSDOS Filesystem
options 	"CD9660"		#ISO 9660 Filesystem
options 	"CD9660_ROOT"		#CD-ROM usable as root. "CD9660" req'ed
options 	PROCFS			#Process filesystem
options 	"COMPAT_43"		#Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
options 	SCSI_DELAY=5000		#Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device
options 	UCONSOLE		#Allow users to grab the console
options 	FAILSAFE		#Be conservative
options 	USERCONFIG		#boot -c editor
options 	VISUAL_USERCONFIG	#visual boot -c editor
options 	KTRACE			#ktrace(1) syscall trace support
options 	SYSVSHM			#SYSV-style shared memory
options 	SYSVMSG			#SYSV-style message queues
options 	SYSVSEM			#SYSV-style semaphores

config		kernel	root on da0

# To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
#options 	SMP			# Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
#options 	APIC_IO			# Symmetric (APIC) I/O
# Optionally these may need tweaked, (defaults shown):
#options 	NCPU=2			# number of CPUs
#options 	NBUS=4			# number of busses
#options 	NAPIC=1			# number of IO APICs
#options 	NINTR=24		# number of INTs

controller	isa0
#controller	pnp0			# PnP support for ISA
#controller	eisa0
controller	pci0

# Floppy drives
controller	fdc0	at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2
disk		fd0	at fdc0 drive 0
#disk		fd1	at fdc0 drive 1

# IDE controller and disks
options		"CMD640"	# work around CMD640 chip deficiency
controller	wdc0	at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14
#disk		wd0	at wdc0 drive 0
#disk		wd1	at wdc0 drive 1

controller	wdc1	at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15
#disk		wd2	at wdc1 drive 0
#disk		wd3	at wdc1 drive 1

# ATAPI devices
options		ATAPI		#Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus
options		ATAPI_STATIC	#Don't do it as an LKM
device		acd0		#IDE CD-ROM
#device		wfd0		#IDE Floppy (e.g. LS-120)

# SCSI Controllers
# A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc) is
# sufficient for any number of installed devices.
#controller	ncr0		# NCR/Symbios Logic
#controller	ahb0		# EISA AHA1742 family
controller	ahc0		# AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
#controller	amd0		# AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T))
#controller	isp0		# Qlogic family
#controller	dpt0		# DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options!

#controller	adv0	at isa? port ? cam irq ?
#controller	adw0
#controller	bt0	at isa? port ? cam irq ?
#controller	aha0	at isa? port ? cam irq ?

# SCSI peripherals
# Only one of each of these is needed, they are dynamically allocated.
controller	scbus0		# SCSI bus (required)
device		da0		# Direct Access (disks)
device		sa0		# Sequential Access (tape etc)
#device		cd0		# CD
device		pass0		# Passthrough device (direct SCSI)

# Proprietary or custom CD-ROM Interfaces
#device		wt0	at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1
#device		mcd0	at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10
#device		matcd0	at isa? port 0x230 bio
#device		scd0	at isa? port 0x230 bio

# atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
controller	atkbdc0	at isa? port IO_KBD tty
device		atkbd0	at isa? tty irq 1
device		psm0	at isa? tty irq 12

device		vga0	at isa? port ? conflicts

# splash screen/screen saver
pseudo-device	splash

# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
device		sc0	at isa? tty

# Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver
#device		vt0	at isa? tty
#options 	XSERVER			# support for X server
#options 	FAT_CURSOR		# start with block cursor
# If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines
#options 	PCVT_SCANSET=2		# IBM keyboards are non-std

# Floating point support - do not disable.
device		npx0	at isa? port IO_NPX irq 13

# Power management support (see LINT for more options)
#device		apm0    at isa?	disable	flags 0x31 # Advanced Power Management

# PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
#controller	card0
#device		pcic0	at card?
#device		pcic1	at card?

# Serial (COM) ports
device		sio0	at isa? port "IO_COM1" flags 0x10 tty irq 4
device		sio1	at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3
device		sio2	at isa? disable port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5
device		sio3	at isa? disable port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9

# Parallel port
device		ppc0	at isa? port? flags 0x40 net irq 7
controller	ppbus0			# Parallel port bus (required)
device		lpt0	at ppbus?	# Printer
device		plip0	at ppbus?	# TCP/IP over parallel
device		ppi0	at ppbus?	# Parallel port interface device
#controller	vpo0	at ppbus?	# Requires scbus and da0

# PCI Ethernet NICs.
#device		al0		# ADMtek AL981 (``Comet'')
#device		ax0		# ASIX AX88140A
#device		de0		# DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
#device		fxp0		# Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
#device		mx0		# Macronix 98713/98715/98725 (``PMAC'')
#device		pn0		# Lite-On 82c168/82c169 (``PNIC'')
#device		rl0		# RealTek 8129/8139
#device		sf0		# Adaptec AIC-6915 DuraLAN (``Starfire'')
#device		tl0		# Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
#device		tx0		# SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'')
#device		vr0		# VIA Rhine, Rhine II
#device		vx0		# 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')
#device		wb0		# Winbond W89C840F
device		xl0		# 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')

# ISA Ethernet NICs.
# Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize
# this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed.
# Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See
# revision 1.20 of this file.
#device		ed0	at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
#device		ie0	at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000
#device		ep0	at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10
#device		ex0	at isa? port? net irq?
#device		fe0	at isa? port 0x300 net irq ?
#device		le0	at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000
#device		lnc0	at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0
#device		cs0	at isa? port 0x300 net irq ?
# requires PCCARD (PCMCIA) support to be activated
#device		xe0	at isa? port? net irq ?

# PCCARD NIC drivers.
# ze and zp take over the pcic and cannot coexist with generic pccard
# support, nor the ed and ep drivers they replace.
#device		ze0	at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
#device		zp0	at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000

# Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated.
pseudo-device	loop		# Network loopback
pseudo-device	ether		# Ethernet support
#pseudo-device	sl	1	# Kernel SLIP
#pseudo-device	ppp	1	# Kernel PPP
#pseudo-device	tun	1	# Packet tunnel
pseudo-device	pty	16	# Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
pseudo-device	gzip		# Exec gzipped a.out's

# The `bpfilter' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
# Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
# The number of devices determines the maximum number of
# simultaneous BPF clients programs runnable.
pseudo-device	bpfilter 4	#Berkeley packet filter

#####################################################################
# Spesialvalg for RAMSTIND                                          #
#####################################################################
options		"NO_F00F_HACK"
options		DDB
options		DDB_UNATTENDED
options		PERFMON
options		KERNFS
options		QUOTA
#pseudo-device	speaker
pseudo-device	snp 4
#options		CLK_USE_TSC_CALIBRATION
#controller	usb0
#controller	uhci0
#controller	ohci0
#device		ugen0
#device		uhid0
#device		ukbd0
#device		ulpt0
#device		ums0
#####################################################################
# Slutt på spesialvalgene for RAMSTIND                              #
#####################################################################

# Slutt på konfigurasjonsfilen RAMSTIND

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Merkantilvegen 59HB7,                    |    trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no
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Hi!

So, i'm trying to run sniffit-3.0.7beta from 3.4-RELEASE packages.  I have
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Jan 17 20:11:41 myhost /kernel: pid 2201 (sniffit), uid 0: exited on
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so, the latest step in my freebsd education is firewalling. from what i
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Any support in any of the 3.x releases for kernel threads? I can only
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I see three potential problems here:

1.  250 megs may not be enough space for a useable system
2.  The system must be able to boot fromt he zip, which may be tough
3.  The filesystem will be unbearably slow

On Sat, 15 Jan 2000 W33TAD1D@aol.com wrote:

>i have an iomega 250m zip drive (parallel port), i wanted to install freebsd 
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>first cd of 2.2.6.
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Hi,

I hope this is an appropriate list in which to ask this question.

We are hosting a virtual domain on our servers. I have Sendmail configured
correctly to receive mail for this domain and deliver it appropriately using
the virtusertable files and sendmail.cw

Our domain name is jellico.net. The name of the domain we are hosting is
hardwickclothes.com.

The problem is that when someone from hardwickclothes.com (say johndoe)
sends mail through our server the mail is sent se from: johndoe@jellico.net
instead of being from: johndoe@hardwickclothes.com

I have read through the FAQ on masquerading and I believe that I need to add
support for a generics table to my sendmail.cf file. The FAQ talks about
doing this using the mc file. Unfortunately I have never understood how to
configure Sendmail via the mc file, I have been configuring it by editing
sendmail.cf directly.

I guess what I need to know is:

1) Is the generics table going to allow me to send hardwickclothes.com
E-mail as being from: user@hardwickclothes.com instead of from:
user@jellico.net?

2) What is the syntax of the line(s) I need to add to sendmail.cf to allow
support for the generics table?

Thanks,

Lisa Casey, Webmaster
Interstate 2000, Inc.
lisa@jellico.com
webmaster@jellico.com






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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Jan 17  7:37:12 2000
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On 16 Jan 2000, Christian Weisgerber wrote:

> John Indra  wrote:
> 
> > I have Mutt 1.0i installed on my FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE, compiled against
> > S-Lang 1.3.10. In consoles, Mutt shows color just fine, but when I run
> > Mutt on an xterm, it doesn't show color at all.
> 
> Presumably the program checks the termcap entry and doesn't find any
> indication of color support there. Try TERM=xterm-color.
> 
> > when I use gnuls --color=auto, xterm seems to render the color,
> 
> That blows out ANSI color control sequences without any regard
> whatsoever for the actual terminal type. xterm indeed renders those.
> (A different terminal might self-destruct. :-) )
> 

And, under Linux, midnight commander will display colors even with
TERM=vt100, that's no the case udner FreeBSD port of it.  Does anyone know
for sure that linux mc does not check for terminal type, and fBSD's midc
does?  Just don't want to dig into sources....

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On 17/01 13:16, Morten Seeberg wrote:

> Well, at the moment I havent had much time to play around with it, but I
> am planning some tests, because I really dont think my filesystem is as
> fast as expected. Im running on 4  9Gb 10K RPM disks, and except when

How are these 4 disks organised?  What's ths stripe size?


> copying 100+MB files to /dev/null (approx 18Mb / s) i dont get much
> faster acx than 2-4Mb / s, which I have seen better (this is on
> 3.4-RELEASE).
> 
> Also the searchtime is very slow, and a script like

I don't understand what you mean by 'searchtime'.  Are you referring to
something like

  find / -name dang-what-did-I-call-it.\*

? If so, you could try 'locate'


> /etc/periodic/weekly/310.blabla which I thought would be much faster,
> isnt compared to a regular IDE disk. But also normal system usage (this
> is my workstation) doesnt seem to have speeded up much.  I tried

What kind of stuff are you using this for?


> experimenting with SOFTOPTIONS, no luck.

You mean soft-updates, enabled by adding the line

  options SOFTUPDATES

to your kernel configuration file, and reading the instrutions in

  /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/README.softupdates
  
best;


gjvc

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On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Glen Driban wrote:

>Any support in any of the 3.x releases for kernel threads? I can only
>find reference to pthreads. I've searched the freeBSD.org site, looked
>at the FAQ's and looked at the 3.x release notes. If no support for
>kernel threads is it planned for the future and in what release might we
>expect to see it.

There are no kernel threads at the moment, but FreeBSD still has fantastic
performance.  Apparently they are now discussing what kind of architecture
they want to use to implement kernel threads in the future.  It probably
will be a while away, however.  Since 4.0 is due out soon, maybe they will
start on kernel threads in -current after this release, and they will
spend a while hammering out the details and bugs.


>
>--
>Glenn Driban
>Senior Software Engineer
>Worldgate Communications, Inc.
>
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Please help --

I Installed the XFree86 3.3.6 software in hopes of using my ATI Rage
128.
The previous release would not work at all for this card.

The good news is that the server starts and initially appears to work.
However when I startx to KDE 1.1.1 or Windowmaker any windows ie. term,
netscape, config etc. contain bar code instead of text also when windows
are moved the section at the top flickers when moving over another
window. Sometimes text does show but is destroyed upon window movement. 

Note -- The XFree86 3.3.6 software and KDE 1.1.1 or Windowmaker work
fine with my old Diamond Stealth 64 VRAM (S3).

Thanks
Kevin Voyce casolution@mindspring.com


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in what i have previously called a vain attempt, i am trying to get 
ColdFusion Server for Linux to run under FreeBSD.  stable didn't look
like it was going to work so i upgraded to current (snapshot 20000114)

i have RH6.1 emulation installed, and it ALMOST works, however it's
having trouble loading a library.

wintermute# cd /home/half/coldfusion/bin
wintermute# ./start
/home/half/coldfusion/bin/cfexec: error in loading shared libraries: libporting.so: ELF file ABI version invalid.
wintermute# 

is there something similar to brandelf that i could use to knock this lib
into shape? or should i give up now and save myself the wasted time?

thanks,

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On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Oren Sarig wrote:

>WindowMaker was nice, but the reason I dropped it (drums, please)....
>I want that bar on the bottom I can choose what window I want from.
>Seriously, when I have 10 windows open, it's a real pain (you know
>where) finding the one you need without that bar. When the selection
>came between KDE and GNOME, I picked GNOME because (drums again)...
>GTK looks nicer than QT. Seriously, GNOME is a whole lot more stable
>now, and offers about the same features as KDE, so there is no big
>difference.

Well, that was a big issue with me... stability... Gnome just drove me
nuts sometimes, even on Linux, where it is supposedly more stable.  So you
say it is more stable now?  How about configuring, and useful tools?  It
seems to me KDE is ahead on this one.

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On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 Chris.Smith@raytheon.co.uk wrote:

>Regarding standards, KDE has adopted it's own 'standard' known as
>KOM/OpenParts (I think).  Gnome uses an existing standard but it's a
>'commercial style' one which I dont like.  I compare it to Microsoft DCOM
>which is foul and should be burned at the stake :o)

I thought CORBA was supposedly a good idea for Gnome?  Open and flexible,
and standardized as well?  Without standards, you run the risk of
(a) several incompatible standards (like instant messengers) or one
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, George Cox wrote:

>On 13/01 18:08, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
>
>> it is a security risk for networks, but i really get tired of having to
>> jump to a root console every time i want to change my zip disk or floppy.
>
>Check out mtools.

That works for DOS, but i also have BSD zip disks

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hi., i'm having problems setting up my sb vibra16x soundcard., i'm using 
controller pnp0
and then
device pcm0 ...etc...

is there something special i have to do to get this card working., i did
the ./MAKEDEV snd1 shit.,  uhmm i had a startup error saying pcm0 not
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anyone can help?
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Everybody,

I've just upgraded successfully to FreeBSD-stable. 
Can I delete all the files in the /var/tmp/root directory?
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 _Alain

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	I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.8 on one machine.  There are some versioning
problems with some of the software I use, so I keep it at that version
of FreeBSD for now.  I have other machines running the 3.x branch.

	My problem is that I apparently have too many aliases to the loopback
(it's web server with lots of virtual domains).  It seems to stop
aliasing around 48 aliases.

	My question is how can I get more aliases on that interface and/or how
do I create a second loopback interface?

-- 
Richard J. Finn
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Christian,                                          Monday, January 17, 2000
   Thanks for the quick info on ICQ! I'll be looking into that when I get
time. (hehe..yeah..then!) Unfortunately that's a side issue right now with
the NAT'ed ftpd being my primary concern. Any other takers?

Monday, January 17, 2000, 8:14:36 AM, you wrote:

CT> For ICQ, simply install the socks5 port, and tell ICQ you're using a socks5
CT> firewall, pointing it to the address of your NAT box.  I do this, and it
CT> works perfectly for me.

CT>  -Christian

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Ben WIlliams
>> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 7:11 AM
>> To: FreeBSD questions
>> Subject: Private network + IP-Filter + IP-NAT + internal ftpd
>>
>>
>>                                                Monday, January 17, 2000
>>    As the subject suggests I am connected to the internet from a private
>> network (192.168.0.0 address space) through a FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE box with
>> two NICs (one for the inside, one for the out) which is running ipf
>> ( IP-Filter http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~avalon/ip-filter.html ) and ipnat to
>> get me out. What I want to do now is set up an ftp server on one of my
>> internal boxes to be reachable by someone else on the net behind
>> an unknown
>> firewall.
>>          I am on the @Home network and as such I cannot run
>> daemons on their
>> standard < 1023 ports due to some questionable network policies decreed by
>> @Home so I have to redirect some_high_port on the external interface to my
>> ftp port in the internal machine to get connections to the server.
>>     This works well for someone NOT behind a firewall using active ftp
>> sessions. Passive ftp sessions break possibly due to the fact that ipnat
>> doesn't know it's dealing with an ftp connection and libalias
>> can't take the
>> appropriate steps to ensure the FTP connection goes through.
>>     This does not work at all for someone behind a firewall
>> because the PORT
>> command chokes with a "530 Only client IP..", PASV breaks because
>> you can't
>> route 192.168.0.0 on the net and if I tell the server to issue the outside
>> address for PASV it fails as well because my NAT box doesn't know it's
>> speaking FTP.
>>
>>    I need to know how to either hack libalias to acknowledge FTP
>> connections
>> on a non-standard port, how to set up ipf/ipnat rules to enable
>> either active
>> or passive FTP connections on a non-standard port or any other way I could
>> get this setup working without putting the outside port number
>> down where it
>> belongs.
>>
>>     I have already perused the list archives and I haven't found
>> much helpful
>> info for getting back in on redirected (non-standard) ports for FTP.
>>
>> TIA,
>> --
>>  Ben                                      mailto:williamsl@Home.Com
>>
>> PS -- If anyone has any pointers on getting ICQ to do direct connections
>>       (chat, file x-fer, etc) in the same configuration
>>       ( myhost <-> NAT <-> 'net <-> firewall <-> otherhost )
>>       I would appreciate any info you can give me!
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Jan 17  8:39:47 2000
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I realize i'm out of my element in -current, but it's a great way to
learn...

In -current, I see remarks about async and softupdates... Will softupdates
continue to be supported as before?  Is async a new idea?  I know it has
been said that Linux has a less stable filesystem because of async r/w
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Is there any way for an rfork() process to detect if it's parent process
has died?  I mean via some sort of asynchronous notification?

I can detect death of a child process via SIGCHLD and wait()/wait4().

I can detect death of a fork()ed parent by opening a pipe before the fork,
and having the child detect when the pipe gets closed.  Unfortunately, I'm
using rfork() such that file descriptors are shared, so the OS won't close
the parent's file descriptors on premature termination.

The best idea I've come up with thus far is to spin a manager process which
creates the current parent process as a child, and then let that process
watch for SIGCHLD.  This seems a bit extreme (not to mention confusing,
because it means that the "real" pid of the process isn't the first one of
ten, it's the second one of ten...).

Ideas?

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Hello,

I just installed FreeBSD 3.4 and now my network isn't working. This is what
I got.
I have a Ethernet 3c509 card, and the kernel seems to be picking up it just
perfect. I'm not sure though. If I run ifconfig ep0 the settings seem ok,
settings I
created using the /stand/sysinstall program when first installing. I set my
ip to
130.132.220.2 and I have a router at 130.132.220.1 that I want to route
through, and
I set this correct in the sysinstall program. So if I do a netstat -r the
table seems good.
But I can only ping myself. I have tested the cable with my router and an
other computer
and it worked just fine. It is a TP cable going from card to card (not a hub
that is).
This worked in my Linux so I guess it should work here too. Maby the card is
set
to Quax and I'm using TP ? How do I set this? Maby the card isn't working?
How can
I test this? Maby the routing table is wrong, how do I test this?

I also have a problem with my CD-ROM, which FreeBSD can't find. It's is a
NEC CD-ROM
the only thing I know about it is when I boot up I use auto detect and it
finds it printing:
NEC        CD-ROM drive:272
How do I configure my kernel to find it? I look at the configure-kernel
texts on www.freebsd.org
and it didn't seem impossible just that I haven't focused on that problem
yet.



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On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 06:50:20AM +0100, Thierry Herbelot wrote:
> Couldn't open /usr/libexec/ld.so.

You need to install the "compat-2_2" (or something similar) package
from the snapshot.

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Hello,

I was wondering if you had any stickers of FreeBSD that I can put on my =
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I was wondering if you had any stickers =
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Darryl Isip


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Thanks!


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Hi,
I have a FreeBSD 3.4 in which I want to install a pci  internal modem ELSA
MICROLINK.
Does any body can tell me how to do it.

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Hi,

I'm trying to get sound compiled into my kernel. Reading the FAQs, LINT,
mail archives, and sound.doc, I'm left confused but still trying. My machine
is a celeron 366, with a Crystal CS4280 on the motherboard. I'm running
FreeBSD 3.3. I copied the line that is in LINT into my kernel and I get the
following errors:

cs4232.o: In function `attach_cs4232':
cs4232.o(.text+0x1ca): undefined reference to `probe_mpu401'
cs4232.o(.text+0x1e5): undefined reference to `attach_mpu401'
*** Error code 1

Stop

Any thoughts? I've even tried that device pcm, but that had tons of errors.

Please also send replies to me as I am not on the mail list for about the
next two months.

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----- Original Message -----
From: Johannes Gumbel 
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> Hello,
>
> I just installed FreeBSD 3.4 and now my network isn't working. This is
what
> I got.
> I have a Ethernet 3c509 card, and the kernel seems to be picking up it
just
> perfect. I'm not sure though. If I run ifconfig ep0 the settings seem ok,
> settings I
> created using the /stand/sysinstall program when first installing. I set
my
> ip to
> 130.132.220.2 and I have a router at 130.132.220.1 that I want to route
> through, and
> I set this correct in the sysinstall program. So if I do a netstat -r the
> table seems good.
> But I can only ping myself. I have tested the cable with my router and an
> other computer
> and it worked just fine. It is a TP cable going from card to card (not a
hub
> that is).
> This worked in my Linux so I guess it should work here too. Maby the card
is
> set
> to Quax and I'm using TP ? How do I set this? Maby the card isn't working?
> How can
> I test this? Maby the routing table is wrong, how do I test this?
>
> I also have a problem with my CD-ROM, which FreeBSD can't find. It's is a
> NEC CD-ROM
> the only thing I know about it is when I boot up I use auto detect and it
> finds it printing:
> NEC        CD-ROM drive:272
> How do I configure my kernel to find it? I look at the configure-kernel
> texts on www.freebsd.org
> and it didn't seem impossible just that I haven't focused on that problem
> yet.
>
>
>
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According to the send(2) manpage:
"
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hello, i just finished seting up freebsd on my toshiba and now i am moving
on to configure the x server but i have a problem, i do no thave the
complete specs for my display (more specifically, refresh rates). Is there
anyone out there running on the same machine that can give me a hand, any
help would be very appreciated,
thanks a lot

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References: <3875606F.E998CA66@hamcoll.schools.sa.edu.au>
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Hi,

    Try the port "/usr/ports/editors/staroffice5"

Have Fun...
Ales

----- Original Message -----
From: Ian Moore 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 9:41 PM
Subject: Star Office 5.1 on FreeBSD3.2 dumps when run


> Hi,
> I'm having trouble getting Star Office 5.1 to run (like a lot of people
> it seems!).
> I'm using FreeBSD 3.2 Release & KDE 1.1.1
> I installed star office as per the instructions at
> http://www.serv.net/~mcglk/staroffice-install.html
> The install seemed to go OK, but when I ran it (as an ordinairy user -
> haven't tried root yet), it says:
> Making StarOffice directory tree in /home/(you)/Office51.
>      (subdirectories . . . )
>      (symbolic links . . . )
>      (user directories . . . )
>
>      Done.
>
> & then it does a core dump. I read another posting:
>
>
http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1348341+1349920+/usr/local/www/d
b/text/1999/freebsd-questions/19991017.freebsd-questions
>
> He had the same sort of problem, but there was no reply to it. Has
> anyone had this problem & solved it?
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Ian Moore :-)
> Network Administrator
> Hamilton Secondary College
> Ph 0418 843 224 or 8275 8300
> Email imoore@hamcoll.schools.sa.edu.au
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Good morning all,

I've trid several times this morning to ftp a package
and keep being told that the servers I'm looking at do
not have the 'packages/INDEX' that the
/stand/sysinstall script using packages is looking
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the message keeps telling me to try different mirrors,
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What am I doing wrong?

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Try this link:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1651362+1653480+/usr/local/www/d
b/text/1999/freebsd-questions/19990926.freebsd-questions

Greetings
Ales

----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Michel 
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Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 11:05 PM
Subject: what causes tx underruns on PNIC cards


> I've got a NetGear FA-310tx card, which claims to be a 82c169 PNIC.
>
> The problem I'm running into is consistent tx underruns -- I ended up
> putting a couple of extra printf's into the code to verify the type
> of error I'm seeing (the "factory" code just bumps the output error
> count.) Of course, this wreaks real havoc on NFS and productivity in
> general.
>
> The tx underrun occurs with various amounts of data queued or ready
> to be queued to the card. There is no one set amount of data.
>
> Yes, I know, I could try -current and the "combined" if_dc driver, but
> I just don't have the time to do frob -current. The kernel is a 3.4
> cvsup-ed from last night.
>
> Anyone else seen this problem?
>
>
> -scooter
>
> ---- reported configuration ----
> Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc.
> Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
> The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
> FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE #10: Thu Jan  6 17:25:05 PST 2000
>     root@mordred.cs.ucla.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/MORDRED
> Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193242 Hz
> Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 233875263 Hz
> CPU: AMD-K6tm w/ multimedia extensions (233.88-MHz 586-class CPU)
>   Origin = "AuthenticAMD"  Id = 0x562  Stepping = 2
>   Features=0x8001bf
>   AMD Features=0x400<>
> real memory  = 67108864 (65536K bytes)
> avail memory = 62763008 (61292K bytes)
> Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02b9000.
> Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
> chip0:  rev 0x01 on pci0.0.0
> chip1:  rev 0x00 on pci0.1.0
> chip2:  rev 0x41 on pci0.7.0
> uhci0:  rev 0x02 int d irq 11 on pci0.7.2
> chip3:  rev 0x10 on pci0.7.3
> ncr0:  rev 0x03 int a irq 9 on pci0.8.0
> pn0: <82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX> rev 0x20 int a irq 11 on pci0.9.0
> pn0: Ethernet address: 00:a0:cc:56:bc:7a
> pn0: autoneg complete, link status good (full-duplex, 100Mbps)
> Probing for devices on PCI bus 1:
> vga0:  rev 0x04 int a irq 9 on pci1.5.0
> Probing for PnP devices:
> Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
> sc0 on isa
> sc0: VGA color <6 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
> atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard
> atkbd0 irq 1 on isa
> psm0 irq 12 on isa
> psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa
> sio0: type 16550A
> sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 flags 0x10 on isa
> sio1: type 16550A
> fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
> fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
> fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in
> vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa
> npx0 on motherboard
> npx0: INT 16 interface
> usb0: 
> uhub0 at usb0
> uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
> uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
> IP packet filtering initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding
disabled, logging limited to 100 packets/entry by default
> Waiting 8 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
> da0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
> da0:  Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
> da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 16), Tagged Queueing Enabled
> da0: 4345MB (8899737 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C)
> cd0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
> cd0:  Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device
> cd0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15)
> cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Logical unit not
ready, manual intervention required
>
> ---- kernel config ----
> machine "i386"
> ident MORDRED
> maxusers 32
> makeoptions DEBUG="-g"
>
> options PQ_HUGECACHE # color for 1024k/16k cache
>
> #
> # This directive defines a number of things:
> #  - The compiled kernel is to be called `kernel'
> #  - The root filesystem might be on partition wd0a
> #  - Crash dumps will be written to wd0b, if possible.  Specifying the
> #    dump device here is not recommended.  Use dumpon(8).
> #
> config kernel root on da0s2a
>
> cpu "I586_CPU" # aka Pentium(tm)
>
> options "CPU_WT_ALLOC"
> options "NO_F00F_HACK"
> options "COMPAT_43"
> options USER_LDT
> options SYSVSHM
> options SYSVSEM
> options SYSVMSG
> options "MD5"
> options "VM86"
> options DDB
> options KTRACE
> options PERFMON
> options UCONSOLE
> options USERCONFIG
> options VISUAL_USERCONFIG
>
> # This is good for 100Mb Ethernet, makes timing resolution decent:
> options HZ=1000
>
> options INET
> options "TCP_COMPAT_42" #emulate 4.2BSD TCP bugs
> options         IPFIREWALL
> options         IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
> options "IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100" #limit verbosity
> options         "ICMP_BANDLIM"
>
> pseudo-device ether
> pseudo-device loop
> pseudo-device bpfilter 4
> pseudo-device disc
>
> options FFS #Fast filesystem
> options MFS #Memory File System
> options NFS #Network File System
> options NFS_NOSERVER
> options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 filesystem
> options MSDOSFS #MS DOS File System
> options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device
> options SOFTUPDATES
> options NSWAPDEV=2
>
> # NFS options:
> options "NFS_MINATTRTIMO=3" # VREG attrib cache timeout in sec
> options "NFS_MAXATTRTIMO=60"
> options "NFS_MINDIRATTRTIMO=30" # VDIR attrib cache timeout in sec
> options "NFS_MAXDIRATTRTIMO=60"
> options "NFS_GATHERDELAY=10" # Default write gather delay (msec)
> options "NFS_UIDHASHSIZ=29" # Tune the size of nfssvc_sock with this
> options "NFS_WDELAYHASHSIZ=16" # and with this
> options "NFS_MUIDHASHSIZ=63" # Tune the size of nfsmount with this
>
> options "P1003_1B"
> options "_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING"
> options "_KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L"
>
> controller scbus0 #base SCSI code
> device da0 #SCSI direct access devices (aka disks)
> device cd0 #SCSI CD-ROMs
> device pass0 #CAM passthrough driver
>
> # The previous devices (ch, da, st, cd) are recognized by config.
> # config doesn't (and shouldn't) know about these newer ones,
> # so we have to specify that they are on a SCSI bus with the "at scbus?"
> # clause.
>
> device pt0 at scbus? # SCSI processor type
> device sctarg0 at scbus? # SCSI target
>
> options SCSI_DELAY=8000
>
> pseudo-device pty 16
> pseudo-device speaker
> pseudo-device gzip
>
> options "MSGBUF_SIZE=40960"
>
> controller isa0
> controller pnp0
>
> #options "AUTO_EOI_1"
> #options "AUTO_EOI_2"
>
> #options "NTIMECOUNTER=20"
>
> controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty
> device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1
> device psm0 at isa? tty irq 12
> device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts
>
> options VGA_ALT_SEQACCESS
> options VESA
>
> pseudo-device splash
>
> device sc0 at isa? tty
> options MAXCONS=6 # number of virtual consoles
> options SC_HISTORY_SIZE=200 # number of history buffer lines
>
> device npx0 at isa? port IO_NPX iosiz 0x0 flags 0x0 irq 13
>
> controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2
> disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0
>
> device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty flags 0x10 irq 4
> device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty flags 0x10 irq 3
>
> ## Sound:
> #device pcm0 at isa? port ? irq 5 drq 3 flags 0x0f
>
> #controller snd0
> #device sb0      at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 3
> #device sbxvi0   at isa? drq 5
> #device sbmidi0  at isa? port 0x330
> #device opl0     at isa? port 0x388
>
> controller pci0
> controller ncr0
> device de0
> device pn0
>
> controller ppbus0
> device lpt0 at ppbus?
> device ppc0 at isa? disable port? tty irq 7
>
> options CLK_CALIBRATION_LOOP
> options "CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION"
> options CLK_USE_TSC_CALIBRATION
> options CLUSTERDEBUG
> options NBUF=512
> options NMBCLUSTERS=1024
> options PANIC_REBOOT_WAIT_TIME=16
> options SHOW_BUSYBUFS # List buffers that prevent root unmount
>
> controller uhci0
> controller usb0
> device ugen0
> device ukbd0
>
>
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Yes I did try the main ftp/freebsd.org, (2 thru 6) as
well as AU.

version 3.0

dg


On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Majid Almassari wrote:

>>>  Did you try the main site ftp.freebsd.org? What version of FreeBSD you are
>>>  running?
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  --
>>>  Majid Almassari, MSEE, MCP.
>>>  Systems Administrator
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>>>  http://www.ibroadcast.net
>>>  
>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>  From: Dick Griffin 
>>>  To: 
>>>  Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 10:24 AM
>>>  Subject: finding the 'packages/INDEX'
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  > Good morning all,
>>>  >
>>>  > I've trid several times this morning to ftp a package
>>>  > and keep being told that the servers I'm looking at do
>>>  > not have the 'packages/INDEX' that the
>>>  > /stand/sysinstall script using packages is looking
>>>  > for.
>>>  >
>>>  > the message keeps telling me to try different mirrors,
>>>  > but the same results occur on each attempt.
>>>  >
>>>  > What am I doing wrong?
>>>  >
>>>  > Thanks to all in advance.  I'll let you know if I find
>>>  > my answer today.
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  > Dick Griffin
>>>  > At Home
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Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Oren Sarig wrote:
> 
> >WindowMaker was nice, but the reason I dropped it (drums, please)....
> >I want that bar on the bottom I can choose what window I want from.
> >Seriously, when I have 10 windows open, it's a real pain (you know
> >where) finding the one you need without that bar. When the selection
> >came between KDE and GNOME, I picked GNOME because (drums again)...
> >GTK looks nicer than QT. Seriously, GNOME is a whole lot more stable
> >now, and offers about the same features as KDE, so there is no big
> >difference.
> 
> Well, that was a big issue with me... stability... Gnome just drove me
> nuts sometimes, even on Linux, where it is supposedly more stable.  So you
> say it is more stable now?  How about configuring, and useful tools?  It
> seems to me KDE is ahead on this one.

I have to agree about Gnome's stability.  I like Gnome's looks, but it's
a bit too ...thrown together.  Kde is coherent and stable as a rock on
FreeBSD in my experience.  

One thing is, how come Kde only comes with a small handful of themes
when built using the ports?  When I was running linux mandrake, I had no
fewer than 20 themes that came with Kde.  The same is true of
enlightenment under FreeBSD.  There isn't even the "clean" theme that
goes so well with Gnome.  This is in fact a big reason I won't use
Gnome. 

-- 
Best Regards, Joseph

	You will do foolish things,	
     but do them with enthusiasm.  Colette.


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Check out www.cse.ucsc.edu/~dkulp/fbsd/laptop.html

for your model or something similar.  It helped me with my toshiba, even
though i didn't find an exact match !

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On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, R Joseph Wright wrote:

>One thing is, how come Kde only comes with a small handful of themes
>when built using the ports?  When I was running linux mandrake, I had no
>fewer than 20 themes that came with Kde.  The same is true of
>enlightenment under FreeBSD.  There isn't even the "clean" theme that
>goes so well with Gnome.  This is in fact a big reason I won't use
>Gnome. 

Funny you should say that  :-)  I came over to FreeBSD from Mandrake as
well.  And i loved all the themes and the KDM login manager with all its
fancy controls.  I switched around OCT 1st, right after 6.1 came out.

I think Mandrake just caters more to the desktop user, with more themes
and toys.  Go to www.themes.org, and DL themes till your heart's
content!  They work well, and i have found all my favorites there,
including the Gotham theme for KDE that also is available for WM.

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Salvo Bartolotta wrote:
> 
> Dear Joseph,
> 
> I have wondered why my KDE metaport was made and yours was not.
> 
> 1) you (pkg)deleted all kde-related items; which deletes the
> corresponding entries in /var/db/pkg; the old packages should have
> disappeared and so they should have become unavailable to the "make"
> commands;
> 
> 2) you issued "make clean", which delets source code and makes sure
> the "make" command will unpack and compile the new source code; BTW,
> did you check it had actually worked for all KDE subports ?
> 
> The only difference between my anomalous experimental situation (two
> ports tree, for testing purposes) and yours concerns the tarballs.
> 
> I wonder whether the "make" command looks for the tarballs in
> /usr/ports/distfiles and believes it has downloaded the *new* (or some
> of the new) tarballs. If this is the case (I am afraid so), weird
> results follow, much like the ones you describe (kdenetwork port NOT
> working).

But I didn't have the *old* tarballs on the machine.  I had installed
kde previously as a binary package from the cdrom.  Isn't that what you
are saying?  That it might see the old tarball and think it was the new
one?
 
> My experience with both the Gnome and KDE metaport seems to indicate
> that the metaport mechanism is sometimes cheated into believing it has
> fetched, compiled or installed some of the new components.
> 
> In fact, I was able to overcome the difficulties easily (via make
> deinstall) because I had taken *another* snapshot of the ports
> collection, and thus I had complete control over both the old and the
> new ports tree mechanism. I am paranoid when it comes to software
> conflicts ...

I had just updated the ports tree.  Wouldn't that insure that everything
was clean?
If only I understood the mechanisms behind it all... 

-- 
Best Regards, Joseph

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     but do them with enthusiasm.  Colette.


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* Jonathon McKitrick  [000117 08:10] wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Glen Driban wrote:
> 
> >Any support in any of the 3.x releases for kernel threads? I can only
> >find reference to pthreads. I've searched the freeBSD.org site, looked
> >at the FAQ's and looked at the 3.x release notes. If no support for
> >kernel threads is it planned for the future and in what release might we
> >expect to see it.
> 
> There are no kernel threads at the moment, but FreeBSD still has fantastic
> performance.  Apparently they are now discussing what kind of architecture
> they want to use to implement kernel threads in the future.  It probably
> will be a while away, however.  Since 4.0 is due out soon, maybe they will
> start on kernel threads in -current after this release, and they will
> spend a while hammering out the details and bugs.

/usr/ports/devel/linuxthreads/

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On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 12:05:38PM -0600, Mark.Einreinhof@hurlburt.af.mil wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to get sound compiled into my kernel. Reading the FAQs, LINT,
> mail archives, and sound.doc, I'm left confused but still trying. My machine
> is a celeron 366, with a Crystal CS4280 on the motherboard. I'm running
> FreeBSD 3.3. I copied the line that is in LINT into my kernel and I get the
> following errors:
> 
> cs4232.o: In function `attach_cs4232':
> cs4232.o(.text+0x1ca): undefined reference to `probe_mpu401'
> cs4232.o(.text+0x1e5): undefined reference to `attach_mpu401'
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop
> 
> Any thoughts? I've even tried that device pcm, but that had tons of errors.
> 
> Please also send replies to me as I am not on the mail list for about the
> next two months.
> 
> Thanks.
> 

Mark, I have a Crystal based sound card as well, its not a 4280 rather its
scans as a:

--begin--
CSN 1 Vendor ID: CSC0b35 [0x350b630e] Serial 0xffffffff Comp ID: @@@0000 [0x0000
0000]
mss_attach 1 at 0x530 irq 10 dma 3:3 flags 0x14
pcm1 (CS423x/Yamaha/AD1816  sn 0xffffffff) at 0x530-0x537 irq 10 drq 3 
flags 0x14 on isa
--end--

here's what I have in my kernel config to get it to work:

--begin--
# Enable PnP support in the kernel.  This allows you to automaticaly
# attach to PnP cards for drivers that support it and allows you to
# configure cards from USERCONFIG.  See pnp(4) for more info.
controller      pnp0

# sound
device pcm0 at isa? port? tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15
--end--

I then added the following to /boot/kernel.config
--begin--
pnp 1 0 os enable port0 0x534 port2 0x220 irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 3
--end--

The above came out of the freebsd-questions archives and pnpinfo(8) command.
And I am not sure if its really necessary, but I do have sound and haven't
made the time yet to play around with it.  Notice that the IRQs are different
which seems a little strange but like I said I've got sound working ;)

Finally I rebooted, made the appropriate devices in /dev (sh MAKEDEV snd1) and
was off and running.

						HTH -DAL-

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On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, R Joseph Wright wrote:

>I had just updated the ports tree.  Wouldn't that insure that everything
>was clean?
>If only I understood the mechanisms behind it all... 

CAPITAL IIUC :-)  the way it works is this: cvsupping ports
adds/changes/deletes from the makefile and PKG lists for each port.  It
won't touch the work directory where the object code is.  One of the
responders to your question said 'make clean' removes the old source.  I
believe that this is incorrect.  It removes the old OBJECT code, which of
course is generated when the source is compiled.  When a port is updated,
at least three things must happen for you to be able to use the new
version.

First, 'pkg_delete' or 'make deinstall'.  It would seem to me that once
you have cvsupped, the PKG list may have changed for the new version of
the port, so a 'pkg_delete' would be more likely to remove every vestige
of the old package.

Second, 'make', possibly preceded by a 'make clean' just to be safe, if
you like.  This fetches and compiles the source, of course, and produces
the binaries and man pages.

Third, 'make install', which installs the binaries and docs to their
correct locations.  It also registers all the files as part of a package,
which can in theory be easily removed later on.

I think one potential area of confusion is this:  Again, IF I UNDERSTAND
THIS CORRECTLY (and i think i do  ;-) 'make deinstall' calls pkg_delete,
but if the makefile has been changed by a recent cvsup, there is always
the possibility this may not work correctly, although it SHOULD.  I
generally use pkg_delete just to be safe.


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Isn't there a difference between linuxthreads and native FreeBSD kernel
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* Jonathon McKitrick  [000117 11:55] wrote:
> 
> Isn't there a difference between linuxthreads and native FreeBSD kernel
> threads?

No, the port gives freebsd linux-like kernel threads.  Don't expect it
to work on 3.x+SMP though.

-Alfred


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Hi,

On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

> One of the responders to your question said 'make clean' removes the
> old source.  I believe that this is incorrect.  It removes the old
> OBJECT code, which of course is generated when the source is compiled.  
> When a port is updated, at least three things must happen for you to
> be able to use the new version.

This is vague at best - make clean, in a port, removes everything in the
work directory and the work directory itself.  It does not touch anything
in /usr/ports/distfiles.

> First, 'pkg_delete' or 'make deinstall'.  It would seem to me that
> once you have cvsupped, the PKG list may have changed for the new
> version of the port, so a 'pkg_delete' would be more likely to remove
> every vestige of the old package.

The package listing in /var/db/pkg holds the old packing list.  You can
have an updated version of a particular port, but the package registry
maintains the packing list for the version you installed.

> Second, 'make', possibly preceded by a 'make clean' just to be safe,
> if you like.  This fetches and compiles the source, of course, and
> produces the binaries and man pages.

If you have no work directory, make clean is just holding you up.  :-)

> I think one potential area of confusion is this:  Again, IF I
> UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY (and i think i do ;-) 'make deinstall' calls
> pkg_delete, but if the makefile has been changed by a recent cvsup,
> there is always the possibility this may not work correctly, although
> it SHOULD.  I generally use pkg_delete just to be safe.

Nope - as noted above - make deinstall calls pkg_delete which reads off
its OWN original packing list, not what's in
/usr/ports/some_dir/some_port/pkg/PLIST.  

Brett
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Mikhail Evstiounin  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 >>No.  Except if your processor is broken.  :-)
 > 
 > Oliver, what about timer registers or serial interface registers?
 > what about mapped video memory or shared memory in multi
 > CPU system?

It has nothing to do with the issue.
You claimed that the processor could be interrupted in the
middle of an assembler instruction, which is incorrect.
At least for all processor types that I know about.

 >>There is no concurrency.  Even if you have two processors,
 >>the signal handler will not run in parallel to the "main"
 >>part of the program.
 > 
 > I agree completely, I was trying to stress a difference  between sighandler
 > and threads and unix processes.

Oh, then I misunderstood you, sorry.  Of course, a sighandler
is something completely cifferent.  :-)

 >>But setting singal masks does not prevent those register
 >>optimizations.  You _must_ use "volatile" for this.
 > 
 > In a way, how you proposed - yes, but it's not enough.

It depends on the program, and what it uses the variables for.
That's a different issue, not subject to this discussion.

This discussion is about using the "volatile" qualifier, which
is necessary for global variables that are accessed from within
signal handlers.  You did not agree with this (do you still not
agree?), and I'm trying to convince you that it _is_ indeed
necessary.  :-)

 >> > Vilotile tells to compiler (and to programmer)
 >> > that j can have a very strange result.
 >>
 >>That's completely wrong.
 > 
 > So, if programmer wites j = i * i; (s)he doesn't expect to get a square? I
 > understand, that according to standard vilotile means it, but it's not
 > intuitive. That's why I told that vilotile tells to compiler and to
 > programmer - expect something strange.

No, that's still wrong.

Without volatile, you can get exactly the same "strange"
result.

You asked me to quote from the standard.  This is not easy,
because volatile is mentioned in a lot of places, and I don't
have it in *.txt form, so I have to type everything manually
from it.  Here are a few sections which I think are pretty
important:


   [...]  an implementation might perform various optimizations
   within each translation unit, such that the actual semantics
   would agree with the abstract semantics only when making
   function calls across translation unit boundaries.  [...]
   In this type of implementation, objects referred to by
   interrupt service routines activated by the signal function
   would require explicit specification of "volatile" storage
   [...]



   A "volatile" declaration may be used to describe an object
   corresponding to a memory-mapped input/output port or an
   object accessed by an asynchronously interrupting function.
   Actions on objects so declared shall not be "optimized out"
   by an implementation or reordered except as permitted by the
   rules for evaluating expressions.



   If the signal occurs [...], the behavior is undefined if the
   signal handler refers to any object with static storage
   duration other than by assigning a value to an object
   declared as "volatile sig_atomic_t" [...]


It sounds like you cannot even read a global variable inside a
signal handler, even if it's volatile.  I didn't know this
before (and I think it's strange), but that's what the standard
says.

Regards
   Oliver

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I didn't boot off the CD-ROM when I install the source...  I just
booted from the hard drive, then /stand/sysinstall, and install
the source only...

Frankie

Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
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> On Sat, Jan 15, 2000 at 03:01:22PM -0800, Frankie Li wrote:
> > Hi,
> >       I was adding FreeBSD source yesterday, and while copying the
> > source from the CD to hard drive, I was able to switch (using alt-Fx)
> > to another login and login as root without any password.  I have yet
> > to try reproducing the problem because it was a computer at school, but
> > I attempted the login several of times in different login terminals, and
> > the same thing resulted.
> >
> > I have FreeBSD 3.3-Release, burn from the iso from ftp.cdrom.com.
> 
> While doing the installation, did you boot from the installation media?
> Because, I think, the /etc/master.passwd of the installation CDROM does
> not have any password... and for a good reason, too.
> 
> Ciao.
> 
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On 17/01 09:19, Darryl Isip wrote:

> I was wondering if you had any stickers of FreeBSD that I can put on my
> computer and car?

I bought a BSD bumper sticker from http://www.thinkgeek.com

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I am reconfiguring a customers multi-port serial card on a stable box. The
pervious kernel config seems to agree with what the current documentation
shows,

options         "COM_MULTIPORT"         #Boca Multi-Port support
#options         "EXTRA_SIO=17"           #number of extra sio ports to
allocate (tried with and without)

device                  sio0    at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector
siointr
device                sio1    at isa? port 0x100 tty flags 0x1005
device                sio2    at isa? port 0x108 tty flags 0x1005
device                sio3    at isa? port 0x110 tty flags 0x1005
device                sio4    at isa? port 0x118 tty flags 0x1005
device                sio5    at isa? port 0x120 tty flags 0x1005
device                sio6    at isa? port 0x128 tty flags 0x1005
device                sio7    at isa? port 0x130 tty flags 0x1005
device                sio8    at isa? port 0x138 tty flags 0x1005
device                sio9    at isa? port 0x140 tty flags 0x1005
device                sio10   at isa? port 0x148 tty flags 0x1005
device                sio11   at isa? port 0x150 tty flags 0x1005
device                sio12   at isa? port 0x158 tty flags 0x1005
device                sio13   at isa? port 0x160 tty flags 0x1005
device                sio14   at isa? port 0x168 tty flags 0x1005
device                sio15   at isa? port 0x170 tty flags 0x1005
device                sio16   at isa? port 0x178 tty flags 0x1005 irq 5
vector siointr


But at bootup time,

sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 not found at 0x100
sio2: configured irq 5 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio2 not found at 0x108
sio3: configured irq 5 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio3 not found at 0x110
sio4: configured irq 5 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio4 not found at 0x118
sio5: configured irq 5 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio5 not found at 0x120
sio6: configured irq 5 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio6 not found at 0x128
sio7: configured irq 5 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio7 not found at 0x130
sio8: configured irq 5 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio8 not found at 0x138
sio9: configured irq 5 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio9 not found at 0x140
sio10: configured irq 5 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio10 not found at 0x148
sio11: configured irq 5 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio11 not found at 0x150
sio12: configured irq 5 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio12 not found at 0x158
sio13: configured irq 5 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio13 not found at 0x160
sio14: configured irq 5 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio14 not found at 0x168
sio15: configured irq 5 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio15 not found at 0x170
sio16: configured irq 5 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio16 not found at 0x178


From the previous 2.2.x machine,

Jan 14 15:10:57 mail /kernel: sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa
Jan 14 15:10:57 mail /kernel: sio0: type 16550A
Jan 14 15:10:57 mail /kernel: sio1 at 0x100-0x107 flags 0x1005 on isa
Jan 14 15:10:57 mail /kernel: sio1: type 16550A (multiport)
Jan 14 15:10:57 mail /kernel: sio2 at 0x108-0x10f flags 0x1005 on isa
Jan 14 15:10:57 mail /kernel: sio2: type 16550A (multiport)
Jan 14 15:10:57 mail /kernel: sio3 at 0x110-0x117 flags 0x1005 on isa
Jan 14 15:10:57 mail /kernel: sio3: type 16550A (multiport)
Jan 14 15:10:57 mail /kernel: sio4 at 0x118-0x11f flags 0x1005 on isa
Jan 14 15:10:57 mail /kernel: sio4: type 16550A (multiport)
Jan 14 15:10:57 mail /kernel: sio5 at 0x120-0x127 flags 0x1005 on isa
Jan 14 15:10:58 mail /kernel: sio5: type 16550A (multiport)
Jan 14 15:10:58 mail /kernel: sio6 at 0x128-0x12f flags 0x1005 on isa
Jan 14 15:10:58 mail /kernel: sio6: type 16550A (multiport)
Jan 14 15:10:58 mail /kernel: sio7 at 0x130-0x137 flags 0x1005 on isa
Jan 14 15:10:58 mail /kernel: sio7: type 16550A (multiport)
Jan 14 15:10:58 mail /kernel: sio8 at 0x138-0x13f flags 0x1005 on isa
Jan 14 15:10:58 mail /kernel: sio8: type 16550A (multiport)
Jan 14 15:10:58 mail /kernel: sio9 at 0x140-0x147 flag
Jan 14 15:10:58 mail /kernel: s 0x1005 on isa
Jan 14 15:10:58 mail /kernel: sio9: type 16550A (multiport)
Jan 14 15:10:58 mail /kernel: sio10 at 0x148-0x14f flags 0x1005 on isa
Jan 14 15:10:58 mail /kernel: sio10: type 16550A (multiport)
Jan 14 15:10:58 mail /kernel: sio11 at 0x150-0x157 flags 0x1005 on isa
Jan 14 15:10:58 mail /kernel: sio11: type 16550A (multiport)
Jan 14 15:10:58 mail /kernel: sio12 at 0x158-0x15f flags 0x1005 on isa
Jan 14 15:10:58 mail /kernel: sio12: type 16550A (multiport)
Jan 14 15:10:58 mail /kernel: sio13 at 0x160-0x167 flags 0x1005 on isa
Jan 14 15:10:58 mail /kernel: sio13: type 16550A (multiport)
Jan 14 15:10:58 mail /kernel: sio14 at 0x168-0x16f flags 0x1005 on isa
Jan 14 15:10:58 mail /kernel: sio14: type 16550A (multiport)
Jan 14 15:10:58 mail /kernel: sio15: configured irq 5 not in bitmap of
probed irqs 0
Jan 14 15:10:58 mail /kernel: sio15 not found at 0x170
Jan 14 15:10:58 mail /kernel: sio16 at 0x178-0x17f irq 5 flags 0x1005 on isa
Jan 14 15:10:58 mail /kernel: sio16: type 16550A (multiport master)

Any thoughts as to what am I missing ?  

	---Mike
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On 01/17/2000 6:03:50 AM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

>On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 06:24:04PM -0700, Duke Normandin wrote:
>>
>> What criterion (ia) are used for determining the use of ipfw or natd
>> in creating a firewall? TIA..
>
>You can use both on the same `firewall'.
>
>They are two different programs, with a different purpose each.
>

I gathered as much now....thanks! I'm now curious to read the answer to the post with 
the subject line, "ipf/ipnat vs ipfw/natd", as well as determining whether or not 
natd's `divert' capabality has (can have) anyhting to do with firewalling.

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Greetings,

If a user gets listed twice in a group will programs like rmuser get rid of
every occurance?  What else could happen or not function correctly?

Thanks!

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On 17 Jan 00, at 9:44, Crist J. Clark wrote:

> When make a successful connection via SSH, the debug messages that
> follow the "Connection established" message are,
> 
>   debug: Remote protocol version 1.5, remote software version OpenSSH-1.2
>   debug: Waiting for server public key.
>   debug: Received server public key (768 bits) and host key (1024 bits).
> 
> You would not have happened to have lost your server keys
> (/usr/local/etc/ssh_host_key*) during the upgrade?

The keys are there:

# ls /usr/local/etc/ssh_host_key*
/usr/local/etc/ssh_host_key     /usr/local/etc/ssh_host_key.pub

And both are non-zero in size and dated about the time I installed ssh 
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On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 03:19:06PM -0500, Brian Anderson wrote:
> 
> so, the latest step in my freebsd education is firewalling. from what
> i can see, there are 2 told that seem heavily used: ipf with ipnat,
> and ipfw with natd.
>
> is there any place i can find a comparison of the two: pros and cons,
> and all that happy stuff?

None that I know of.

> it looks like ipfw is the default, but ipf is easier to find
> documentation on...

Yup, ipfw is the default, but ipf works like a charm too, once you get
the kernel to compile with the proper options.

One thing that I really like in ipf is that rules can be split in
groups, depending on criteria of your own, i.e.

	block in  on lo0  head 10
	block out on lo0  head 20
	block in  on tun0 head 30
	block out on tun0 head 40

will use ruleset 10 for incoming lo0 traffic, ruleset 20 for outgoing
lo0 traffic, etc.  But, someone might prefer:

	block in                  head 10
	block in quick proto tcp  head 20
	block in quick proto udp  head 30
	block in quick proto icmp head 40

and use ruleset 10 for filtering all protocols, 20 for filtering tcp,
etc. you get my point.

It seems to me that ipf is more flexible than ipfw, but this might be
my own personal (and admittedly humble) opinion.  The best thing to do
is try them both and see what you come up with, which one suits you
better.  Since I was playing with ipfw a few months ago, you might find
the two articles in my home page listed below of some use when trying
it out :)

[1] Annotated sample ipfw(8) configuration.
    http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~keramida/freebsd/ipfw.html

[2] A closed-firewall with ipfw(8)
    http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~keramida/freebsd/ipfw-closed.html

Ciao.

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I want to install via a cable modem (my ethernet interface), but rely on
my providers' DHCP server for all this information.  Help! 

http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install-guide.html
2.2.1.6. Before Installing over a Network 
"You will also need to know your IP address on the network, the netmask
value for your address class, and the name of your machine. Your system
administrator can tell you which values to use for your particular
network setup. If you will be referring to other hosts by name rather
than IP address, you will also need a name server and possibly the
address of a gateway (if you are using PPP, it is your provider's IP
address) to use in talking to it. If you do not know the answers to all
or most of these questions, then you should really probably talk to your
system administrator before trying this type of installation. "

Does the install support DHCP?  Will it in the future?  

For now, I'll use another operating system to obtain a DHCP lease for
that NIC, then disconnect without releasing and use that lease
information to get the network install started.  I just hope it finishes
before my lease times out.

Regards,

Charles Hill


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> I hope this is an appropriate list in which to ask this question.
>
> We are hosting a virtual domain on our servers. I have Sendmail configured
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

> It seems to me that ipf is more flexible than ipfw, but this might be
> my own personal (and admittedly humble) opinion.  The best thing to do
> is try them both and see what you come up with, which one suits you
> better.  Since I was playing with ipfw a few months ago, you might find
> the two articles in my home page listed below of some use when trying
> it out :)

(just my opinion, I don't consider it an expert one)

I generally found ipfw easier to use, but ipf more flexible (because of
keep state), except in one case, which was enough to kill ipfs use for me.
One of the things I prefer about ipfw is that it terminates at first
matching accept/deny rule, whereas ipf evaluates all rules (until it
matches something with quick set), and uses the last match.  Logically,
any set of rules that can be done last match can also be done first match,
and I prefer the efficiency of first match, and typing quick on every line
annoys me.

Consider 3 zones, Internet, DMZ, and SemiSecure.  SemiSecure is an
RFC-reserved network, DMZ is the class C assigned to us by our ISP, and
Internet is the internet at large.

SemiSecure must use NAT to get to Internet.  With ipf, this locks 
SemiSecure into using NAT at all times, except for specific pinhole
exceptions, which causes two problems.

First, we'd like to be able to log IP addresses, including SemiSecure
addresses, on machines within the DMZ.  Since NAT is always on, we wind up
logging IP addresses of the inner firewall (the outer one can only do
packet filtering, otherwise I'd do it there).

Second, we have a port range that is reserved on many (over 40) machines
in SemiSecure, that various machines in the DMZ need to be able to connect
to.  The pinhole exceptions that I've found for ipf are pretty much one
address/port to one address/port, which would increase maint. time
unacceptably.

On the other hand, ipf's ability to keep state is nice.



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I just got a new cable modem for my home network, so I set up one machine with FreeBSD 3.4 as a gateway running ipfw with open
policy, and IP aliasing with natd. I am getting a big drop in throughput after implemented this. Originally, my peer Win98 computer
that was connected directly to the cable modem was reading 35 Kb/sec download rate from ftp.freebsd.org site. After going through my
Gateway the rate dropped to 8-10 Kb/sec. I went through the mailing list archives and the only thing I could find was to avoid cheap
NE2000 clone cards which I am currently using. However, I can't believe that cards alone would be the cause for this drop in
throughput. What could I do to remedy this? 

I am running FreeBSD 3.4 as a gateway
Pentium 200
2 GB IDE drive
32 MB RAM
Cable Modem is Plugged into ISA NE2000 clone 
Another LinkSYS PCI NE2000 connects this machine to my network hub
I am running cache only DNS on this machine

I have 3 other computers with various OS's connected to my hub. 

I am also running lots of services and apps on this gateway including Apache, mysql, NFS server, SAMBA, X windows on and off, etc. 

My question is: 
1) How can I get the highest throughput via this gateway?
2) Should I strip this machine of all extra apps and services except IP aliasing and IPFW and DNS?
3) Would adding more RAM make much difference?
4) Are my network cards sufficient for providing high throughput for 2 simultaneous Internet users?
5) Am I missing anything here? 

Thanks,

Alex

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From: "Mr. K." 
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you can use DHCP (I've done it).  The documentation is wrong.

On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Charles Hill wrote:

> I want to install via a cable modem (my ethernet interface), but rely on
> my providers' DHCP server for all this information.  Help! 
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install-guide.html
> 2.2.1.6. Before Installing over a Network 
> "You will also need to know your IP address on the network, the netmask
> value for your address class, and the name of your machine. Your system
> administrator can tell you which values to use for your particular
> network setup. If you will be referring to other hosts by name rather
> than IP address, you will also need a name server and possibly the
> address of a gateway (if you are using PPP, it is your provider's IP
> address) to use in talking to it. If you do not know the answers to all
> or most of these questions, then you should really probably talk to your
> system administrator before trying this type of installation. "
> 
> Does the install support DHCP?  Will it in the future?  
> 
> For now, I'll use another operating system to obtain a DHCP lease for
> that NIC, then disconnect without releasing and use that lease
> information to get the network install started.  I just hope it finishes
> before my lease times out.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Charles Hill
> 
> 
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From: Phil Homewood 
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Subject: Strange lockups/lost response/VMbug, 3.3-STABLE (22Nov1999)
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One of our firewall machines here has "locked up" three times in
as many (business) days.

I put "locked up" in quotes because it's not completely wedged;
the "top" I have running is still happily updating; it accepts
connections but does nothing with them; and the serial console
is completely unresponsive (not even echoing).

Curiously, and I suspect not coincidentally, the second of our
firewalls, suffered what appeared to be the same fate yesterday.

The first machine is only new (commissioned a couple of months
ago), however the other has been in service for over 12 months
without a single glitch, running 3.1-STABLE; it was cvsupped to
3.4-STABLE a couple of days after 3.4 went -RELEASE.

The machines are nearly identical, save for disk size and CPU
(the older machine is a P2/333, the new one is a Celeron 400.)
Both have two disks hanging off ahc controllers, and both have
three 3C905B NICs.

Following is a cut-and-paste of the "top" currently running on
the now-wedged machine:

last pid: 22720;  load averages:  4.00,  4.00,  4.00    up 0+22:58:56  08:39:25
138 processes: 1 running, 135 sleeping, 2 zombie
CPU states:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice,  0.4% system,  1.2% interrupt, 98.4% idle
Mem: 23M Active, 62M Inact, 39M Wired, 8345K Buf, 616K Free
Swap: 256M Total, 256M Free

  PID USERNAME PRI NICE  SIZE    RES STATE    TIME   WCPU    CPU COMMAND
20251 uucp     -20   0 23872K 12376K VM pgd  14:46  0.00%  0.00% smtpd
16266 uucp     -20   0 23808K   428K VM pgd  14:30  0.00%  0.00% smtpd
  825 philh     28   0  1248K   660K RUN      2:22  0.00%  0.00% top
  163 bind       2   0  3080K  2284K select   0:30  0.00%  0.00% named
  399 root       2   0  1180K   684K select   0:16  0.00%  0.00% sshd1
  368 root     -18   0  1444K   616K vmwait   0:11  0.00%  0.00% xinetd
  156 root       2   0   828K   472K select   0:10  0.00%  0.00% syslogd
  167 root       2 -12  1044K   612K select   0:09  0.00%  0.00% xntpd
  362 root     -18   0  1156K   668K vmwait   0:08  0.00%  0.00% sshd1
  247 uucp      10   0   792K   488K nanslp   0:05  0.00%  0.00% smtpfwdd
  303 root       2   0   920K   508K accept   0:03  0.00%  0.00% socks5
22710 root     -18   0   972K   616K vmwait   0:03  0.00%  0.00% find
  335 root       2   0   920K   508K accept   0:01  0.00%  0.00% socks5
  322 root       2   0   920K   512K accept   0:01  0.00%  0.00% socks5
    1 root      10   0   496K   116K wait     0:01  0.00%  0.00% init
  296 root       2   0   920K   596K accept   0:00  0.00%  0.00% socks5
  294 root       2   0   920K   596K accept   0:00  0.00%  0.00% socks5

the state of the two smtpd processes plus a "find" and other things
stuck in vmwait seems to indicate some VM weirdness to me. The smtpd
processes really shouldn't be using that much memory; I suspect a
stupidly large message is in the process of being rejected. However
the memory stats at the top don't agree with the process listing...

I just tried suspending the "top" and lost all control of the terminal.
Off to reboot....

OK, after reboot... last thing in the system logs was:

Jan 18 08:05:30 blocker Socks5[333]: TCP Connection Established: Connect (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:xxxx to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:xxxx) for user
Jan 18 08:07:11 blocker -- MARK --
Jan 18 08:12:11 blocker -- MARK --
Jan 18 08:17:11 blocker -- MARK --
Jan 18 08:22:11 blocker -- MARK -- 
Jan 18 08:27:11 blocker -- MARK --
Jan 18 08:32:11 blocker -- MARK --
Jan 18 08:37:11 blocker -- MARK --
Jan 18 08:42:11 blocker -- MARK --

followed by silence until the reboot. (Loss of response seems
to have occurred around 08:05, so syslogd at least was still
working while the machine was unresponsive. Reboot was at
08:46.)

Nothing interesting logged on console, just the usual smtpd
whining about bad ident responses and incomplete spool files
(from the last reboot I guess).

This (or similar) problem did occur in pre-commissioning testing
of the machine, but was put down to hardware, and a replacement
2940 *seemed* to make the hangs go away. Back then, though, we
did get SCSI errors on console (see previous messages by me in
-questions in Oct/Nov 1999).

dmesg.boot from the newer machine:

Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc.
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
	The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE #0: Mon Nov 22 14:24:08 EST 1999
    root@blocker.mincom.oz.au:/usr/src/sys/compile/BLOCKER
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 400911175 Hz
CPU: Celeron (400.91-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x665  Stepping = 5
  Features=0x183f9ff
real memory  = 134217728 (131072K bytes)
avail memory = 127815680 (124820K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc026f000.
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
chip0:  rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0
chip1:  rev 0x03 on pci0.1.0
chip2:  rev 0x02 on pci0.7.0
ide_pci0:  rev 0x01 on pci0.7.1
chip3:  rev 0x02 on pci0.7.3
xl0: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> rev 0x30 int a irq 11 on pci0.14.0
xl0: Ethernet address: 00:10:5a:72:43:a0
xl0: autoneg complete, link status good (half-duplex, 10Mbps)
xl1: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> rev 0x24 int a irq 10 on pci0.18.0
xl1: Ethernet address: 00:10:4b:c5:b6:14
xl1: autoneg complete, link status good (half-duplex, 10Mbps)
ahc0:  rev 0x00 int a irq 15 on pci0.19.0
ahc0: aic7890/91 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs
xl2: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> rev 0x24 int a irq 15 on pci0.20.0
xl2: Ethernet address: 00:10:4b:c5:c3:4d
xl2: autoneg complete, link status good (half-duplex, 10Mbps)
Probing for devices on PCI bus 1:
vga0:  rev 0x7a on pci1.0.0
Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
sc0 on isa
sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard
atkbd0 irq 1 on isa
sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa
sio0: type 16550A, console
sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa
sio1: type 16550A
fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in
wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa
wdc0: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, dma, iordis
acd0: drive speed 6890KB/sec, 128KB cache
acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA
acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels
acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray
acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked
ppc0 not found
vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa
npx0 on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
IP packet filtering initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, logging limited to 100 packets/entry by default
Waiting 2 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
cda0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0:  Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device 
da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da0: 8761MB (17942584 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1116C)
da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
da1:  Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device 
da1: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da1: 8761MB (17942584 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1116C)
hanging root device to da0s1a
WARNING: / was not properly dismounted

Anyone have any ideas, or is there more info I can supply? (The
machine is running headless with console on a terminal server;
I'll try to get a head on it to dump to DDB next time it happens.)
There's definitely something nasty here. :-(
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Jan 17 15: 3:23 2000
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From: Salvo Bartolotta 
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:02:36 GMT
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Subject: Re: can't make certain ports
To: Brett Taylor 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 1/17/00, 8:49:28 PM, Brett Taylor  wrote=20
regarding Re: can't make certain ports:


> Hi,

> On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

> > One of the responders to your question said 'make clean' removes the=

> > old source.  I believe that this is incorrect.  It removes the old
> > OBJECT code, which of course is generated when the source is compile=
d.
> > When a port is updated, at least three things must happen for you to=

> > be able to use the new version.

> This is vague at best - make clean, in a port, removes everything in=20
the
> work directory and the work directory itself.  It does not touch=20
anything
> in /usr/ports/distfiles.

> > First, 'pkg_delete' or 'make deinstall'.  It would seem to me that
> > once you have cvsupped, the PKG list may have changed for the new
> > version of the port, so a 'pkg_delete' would be more likely to remov=
e
> > every vestige of the old package.

> The package listing in /var/db/pkg holds the old packing list.  You=20
can
> have an updated version of a particular port, but the package registry=

> maintains the packing list for the version you installed.

> > Second, 'make', possibly preceded by a 'make clean' just to be safe,=

> > if you like.  This fetches and compiles the source, of course, and
> > produces the binaries and man pages.

> If you have no work directory, make clean is just holding you up.  :-)=


> > I think one potential area of confusion is this:  Again, IF I
> > UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY (and i think i do ;-) 'make deinstall' cal=
ls
> > pkg_delete, but if the makefile has been changed by a recent cvsup,
> > there is always the possibility this may not work correctly, althoug=
h
> > it SHOULD.  I generally use pkg_delete just to be safe.

> Nope - as noted above - make deinstall calls pkg_delete which reads=20
off
> its OWN original packing list, not what's in
> /usr/ports/some_dir/some_port/pkg/PLIST.

> Brett
> *****************************************************
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> Curie 39A     (540) 831-6147                      *
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> *****************************************************



Dear Brett Taylor,

thank you very much for clarifying.

When I said "make clean deletes source code" I meant exactly what you=20
indicated: the .../work subdirectory (or subtree) stuff.

I apologize for not being accurate.

I should probably have written "source-related code at large" e.g.=20
such files as config.h, install.h, malloc.h, command.h command.c etc.;=20
which is what I thought of and what made me use an improper=20
expression. Specifically, I had in mind the content of the=20
...x11/kdebase11/work/... and subdirs stuff, as well as the gnome=20
related stuff (e.g. .../x11-fm/gnomemc/work/... and subdirs stuff.

That this was the case should have been clear from what followed -- I=20
hope.=20

I expressly indicated that the *old* tarballs (containing the=20
compressed source code) might have interfered (bug ?) with the=20
metaport mechanism; that is, they might have cheated it into believing=20
that they were the *new* ones.

That is why "make clean" should have been followed by "renaming" (or=20
even deleting) the old tarballs.

The KDE metaport has caused R.J. Wright some problems. Since I had=20
(paranoidly) taken *two* snapshots of the entire ports collection, for=20
testing purposes, at two different times, and I had succeeded in=20
making KDE-1.1.2, I was trying to understand what went wrong for=20
Joseph.  =20

Also, a few people think that "make deinstall" and pkg_delete perform=20
the same identical action whereas they are NOT exactly synonymous.=20
Thank you for drawing attention to this misleading delicate point once=20
again. =20



I hope not to be flamed for my inaccuracy ... and I hope that this=20
reply does not contain additional lapsus calami (or even some weird=20
error !!), either :-)))

Best regards,
Salvo

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Jan 17 15: 4:35 2000
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Point your browser here:  http://www.freebsdmall.com/ and order yourself
some stickers.  Helps the cause as well!

Look under "Promotional" for the decals and shirts.


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On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Darryl Isip wrote:

> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:19:08 -0800
> From: Darryl Isip 
> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: FreeBSD Stickers?
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I was wondering if you had any stickers of FreeBSD that I can put on my computer and car?
> 
> Please send some to:
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> Darryl Isip
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> 
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This is the error I am having trouble with:

//
Traceback (innermost last):
  File "/usr/local/libexec/fetchmailconf.bin", line 1763, in ?
    hostname = socket.gethostbyaddr(socket.gethostname())[0]
socket.error: no address associated with hostname.
//

This specific error is from the fetchmailconf script distributed with
the fetchmail port - but I have encounted this error before (IIRC,
when sending local mail using sendmail (w/ default FreeBSD config)).

I am running fetchmailconf from a machine inside a private LAN
with the IP address 192.168.40.5 (yes, sorry, not RFC 1918 compliant
AFAIK, but I made that mistake a LONG time ago and it would be a pain
to fix it now). The other boxen in this network are at 192.168.40.x,
with the (Internet) gateway at 192.168.40.1

I am running FreeBSD 3.4 STABLE with a pretty fresh (2 hour old)
install (so it is quite possible I have forgotten to configure something)..

Thanks in advance,

Neil

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Jan 17 15:16:22 2000
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This is the 5th time I've lost an array with the only message given
being....

Jan 17 13:35:37 bla /kernel: (da1:dpt0:0:10:0): CCB 0xc82838b8 - timed out
Jan 17 13:35:49 bla /kernel: (da1:dpt0:0:10:0): CCB 0xc82832e8 - timed out
Jan 17 13:42:37 bla /kernel: (da1:dpt0:0:10:0): CCB 0xc82832e8 - timed out
Jan 17 13:43:03 bla /kernel: (da1:dpt0:0:10:0): CCB 0xc82838b8 - timed out

I've gone through 2 cards. 4 sticks of memory, swaped out all cables, put
the card and drives into a different machine and always get the same
effect after a time. 
No mater what I do, the thing stays up about a week then smokes the entire
array. Have tried every kernel option except the one noted as "Contact
driver author before setting it". Could just be that I'm setting options
wrong, but I'm not sure.
Does this error give any indication to anyone as to what the problem may
be? I'm completely flustered..

Thanks. 


Keith



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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Jan 17 15:29:51 2000
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I have a question regarding DPT drivers for their 4th generation SmartRAID
products.

It looks like they are coming out soon with their FreeBSD drivers,
including a neat command-line tool to monitor/configure the system
(although I got conflicting messages, see below).  Is it better to wait
for these drivers to get into a -RELEASE, or just use DPT developed
drivers when (and if) they do get released?  

I'm primary interested in implementing a hot-swappable spare RAID 0/1
configuration, and according to the mailing lists, but you can't tell
if a failure occurs on FreeBSD with 3rd generation DPT controllers, is
that right?

Also, is it true that you can  can boot off of a logical drive on a DPT
RAID array?  I'm also hearing conflicting information on whether you need
a independent drive to boot or not.

Thanks in advance,

Johnny Wu
Systems Engineer
Apex Consulting, LLC

---------------------

Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:22:42 -0500
From: Sharp_Becky@dpt.com
To: Johnny Wu 

Hello Johnny,

Thank you for your message.  I do not have a definite date.  It is
expected to be released next week.  That is as close as I can get.  It is
in test, when that
is done it will be released.

Regards,
Becky Sharp

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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:52:41 -0500
From: support@dpt.com
To: Johnny Wu 
Subject: Re: Drivers Question

Hello Johnny,

Thank you for your e-mail regarding FreeBSD drivers.  The drivers are still
undergoing development and we have no ETA for release.  The will be available
for download from our web site as soon as they are released.

Best Regards,
Joe Niderost
Technical Support Engineer, DPT




Johnny Wu  on 01/15/2000 03:48:05 PM

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Subject:  Drivers Question




Dear DPT Sales or Tech Support,

For the SmartRAID V, the FreeBSD driver availablity is "COMING SOON"  Can
you give a more definitive date?  Are we looking at a month or more than
that?

Thanks,
Johnny Wu
Apex Consulting, LLC









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Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> 
> * Jonathon McKitrick  [000117 08:10] wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Glen Driban wrote:
> >
> > >Any support in any of the 3.x releases for kernel threads? I can only
> > >find reference to pthreads. I've searched the freeBSD.org site, looked
> > >at the FAQ's and looked at the 3.x release notes. If no support for
> > >kernel threads is it planned for the future and in what release might we
> > >expect to see it.
> >
> > There are no kernel threads at the moment, but FreeBSD still has fantastic
> > performance.  Apparently they are now discussing what kind of architecture
> > they want to use to implement kernel threads in the future.  It probably
> > will be a while away, however.  Since 4.0 is due out soon, maybe they will
> > start on kernel threads in -current after this release, and they will
> > spend a while hammering out the details and bugs.
> 
> /usr/ports/devel/linuxthreads/

Does one need specially compiled software to use these threads?

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> > > I think one potential area of confusion is this:  Again, IF I
> > > UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY (and i think i do ;-) 'make deinstall' c=
alls
> > > pkg_delete, but if the makefile has been changed by a recent cvsup=
,
> > > there is always the possibility this may not work correctly, altho=
ugh
> > > it SHOULD.  I generally use pkg_delete just to be safe.

> > Nope - as noted above - make deinstall calls pkg_delete which reads
> off
> > its OWN original packing list, not what's in
> > /usr/ports/some_dir/some_port/pkg/PLIST.



Dear Brett Taylor,

I write again because I am not sure that your last point is valid;
however, issuing "make deinstall", which, incidentally, calls
pkg_delete, does NOT perform the same identical action as issuing
"pkg_delete" directly -- as one should also easily find out e.g. by
sheer trial and error (at a bare minimum, make deinstall ~ pkg_delete
-f).

As R.J. Wright has just experienced himself, typing "make deinstall"
in his freshly updated KDE metaport directory caused an attempt at
uninstalling the *new* (meta)port components, which of course was NOT
possible.

My experience seems to confirm R.J.Wright's.

Further, in a good number of past letters, the following statement is
often repeated: "make deinstall" does NOT uninstall the *old* port
packages; use pkg_delete instead.

I should really jump into the bsd.port.mk (and related stuff) some day
or other ... :-)

Incidentally, in the Complete FreeBSD 2nd ed.,the only edition
available in Sicily (so far), in the "Mantaining ports" section,
G.Lehey seems to suggest using pkg_delete to remove a port.

Am I missing anything ?

Best regards,
Salvo





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Brett Taylor wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> 
> > One of the responders to your question said 'make clean' removes the
> > old source.  I believe that this is incorrect.  It removes the old
> > OBJECT code, which of course is generated when the source is compiled.
> > When a port is updated, at least three things must happen for you to
> > be able to use the new version.
> 
> This is vague at best - make clean, in a port, removes everything in the
> work directory and the work directory itself.  It does not touch anything
> in /usr/ports/distfiles.
> 
> > First, 'pkg_delete' or 'make deinstall'.  It would seem to me that
> > once you have cvsupped, the PKG list may have changed for the new
> > version of the port, so a 'pkg_delete' would be more likely to remove
> > every vestige of the old package.
> 
> The package listing in /var/db/pkg holds the old packing list.  You can
> have an updated version of a particular port, but the package registry
> maintains the packing list for the version you installed.
> 
> > Second, 'make', possibly preceded by a 'make clean' just to be safe,
> > if you like.  This fetches and compiles the source, of course, and
> > produces the binaries and man pages.
> 
> If you have no work directory, make clean is just holding you up.  :-)
> 
> > I think one potential area of confusion is this:  Again, IF I
> > UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY (and i think i do ;-) 'make deinstall' calls
> > pkg_delete, but if the makefile has been changed by a recent cvsup,
> > there is always the possibility this may not work correctly, although
> > it SHOULD.  I generally use pkg_delete just to be safe.
> 
> Nope - as noted above - make deinstall calls pkg_delete which reads off
> its OWN original packing list, not what's in
> /usr/ports/some_dir/some_port/pkg/PLIST.

The problem is that, at least in my case, it wouldn't deinstall an
earler version of the package (kde 1.1.1).  Thus, I had to use
pkg_delete to do it manually.
> Brett
> *****************************************************
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Dan Langille wrote:
> 
> The keys are there:
> 
> # ls /usr/local/etc/ssh_host_key*
> /usr/local/etc/ssh_host_key     /usr/local/etc/ssh_host_key.pub
> 
> And both are non-zero in size and dated about the time I installed ssh
> (back in April 1999).

Perhaps things changed in sshd_config? Mine also gives:

==
SSH Version OpenSSH-1.2, protocol version 1.5.
Compiled with SSL.
debug: Reading configuration data /usr/local/etc/ssh_config
debug: ssh_connect: getuid 0 geteuid 0 anon 0
debug: Connecting to localhost.eboa.com [127.0.0.1] port 22.
debug: Allocated local port 1015.
debug: Connection established.
debug: Remote protocol version 1.5, remote software version OpenSSH-1.2
debug: Waiting for server public key.
debug: Received server public key (768 bits) and host key (1024 bits).
==

> debug: Connection established.
> ssh_exchange_identification: read: No such file or directory

So that does not look like a refused connection but indeed more like
some key or whatever that is nonexistent. Maybe the HostKey parameter
changed somehow?

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Hi,

I can start apache with no problems by running
/usr/local/sbin/apache -f /path/to/my/apache.conf
by hand or in rc.local

but since the newest fad is to utilize this rc.d business, i find there is
already an apache.sh there:
#!/bin/sh
[ -d /usr/local/pgsql/lib ] && /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/pgsql/lib
[ -x /usr/local/sbin/apachectl ] && /usr/local/sbin/apachectl start
# > /dev/null && echo -n ' apache'

Now I can't figure out how to pass a -f paramater to apachectl to tell the
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On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 12:10:14PM -0800, Frankie Li wrote:
> I didn't boot off the CD-ROM when I install the source...  I just
> booted from the hard drive, then /stand/sysinstall, and install
> the source only...

I fear that by re-running /stand/sysinstall, you installed a fresh copy
of the base packages over the old ones.  This might have clobbered your
existing /etc/master.passwd file.  See if you can find any missing
accounts in your /etc/passwd and master.passwd ;)

Oh and one more thing, the best way to upgrade the sources is using
cvsup, IMHO.  I can send a supfile, but making your own after reading
the handbook is many times more beneficial for you.  For me it makes
absolutely no difference at all.

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Satyajit Das wrote:
> 
> hello
> 
> I'm from bangladesh.
> I install FBSD 3.3 .
> FBSD shows 12 hours advanced from current time and also date.
> when i install i select Bangladesh .
> please inform how can i fix my current time and date.

I have forwarded your question and directed replies to the FreeBSD-questions
mailing list, as this is the appropriate place to find answers for this kind
of question.

Now, to attempt to answer it: when you were installing, do you remember the
install program asking you if your CMOS clock is set to local time or GMT
time?  I suspect you answered that question wrong.  For more information,
see "man adjkerntz".

Basically, if your BIOS/CMOS clock is set to the local time, you need to
create a file called /etc/wall_cmos_clock.  You can do this by typing (as
root):

	touch /etc/wall_cmos_clock

If your BIOS/CMOS clock is set to GMT, remove the /etc/wall_cmos_clock file
so your computer will know the clock is on GMT at startup.

Lastly, be sure your CMOS clock, which is accessible from the BIOS setup
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On 18 Jan 00, at 1:30, Roelof Osinga wrote:

> Dan Langille wrote:
> > 
> > The keys are there:
> > 
> > # ls /usr/local/etc/ssh_host_key*
> > /usr/local/etc/ssh_host_key     /usr/local/etc/ssh_host_key.pub
> > 
> > And both are non-zero in size and dated about the time I installed ssh
> > (back in April 1999).
> 
> Perhaps things changed in sshd_config? Mine also gives:
> 
> ==
> SSH Version OpenSSH-1.2, protocol version 1.5.
> Compiled with SSL.
> debug: Reading configuration data /usr/local/etc/ssh_config
> debug: ssh_connect: getuid 0 geteuid 0 anon 0
> debug: Connecting to localhost.eboa.com [127.0.0.1] port 22.
> debug: Allocated local port 1015.
> debug: Connection established.
> debug: Remote protocol version 1.5, remote software version OpenSSH-1.2
> debug: Waiting for server public key. debug: Received server public key
> (768 bits) and host key (1024 bits). ==

Mine shows:

SSH Version OpenSSH-1.2.1, protocol version 1.5.
Compiled with SSL.
debug: Reading configuration data /usr/local/etc/ssh_config
debug: ssh_connect: getuid 0 geteuid 0 anon 0
debug: Connecting to localhost [127.0.0.1] port 22.
debug: Allocated local port 985.
debug: Connection established.
ssh_exchange_identification: read: No such file or directory
debug: Calling cleanup 0x805359c(0x0)

> > debug: Connection established.
> > ssh_exchange_identification: read: No such file or directory
> 
> So that does not look like a refused connection but indeed more like
> some key or whatever that is nonexistent. Maybe the HostKey parameter
> changed somehow?

OK.  I just moved the following files to a safe location:

[root@ducky:/usr/local/etc] # ls -ld ssh*
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   879 Jan 17 20:03 ssh_config
-rw-------  1 root  wheel   538 Apr 25  1999 ssh_host_key
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   342 Apr 25  1999 ssh_host_key.pub
-rw-------  1 root  wheel   512 Dec 13 23:32 ssh_random_seed
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  1212 Jan 17 20:03 sshd_config

Then I did a pkg_delete OpenSSH-1.2.1
then a reinstall of OpenSSH-1.2.1

Same problem.  This time I did a ktrace (thanks Wyze):

$ ktrace ssh localhost
ssh_exchange_identification: read: No such file or directory
$ kdump
 39607 ktrace   RET   ktrace 0
 39607 ktrace   CALL  readlink(0x280cdd84,0xbfbfd694,0x3f)
 39607 ktrace   NAMI  "/etc/malloc.conf"
 39607 ktrace   RET   readlink -1 errno 2 No such file or directory
 39607 ktrace   CALL  mmap(0,0x1000,0x3,0x1002,0xffffffff,0,0,0)
 39607 ktrace   RET   mmap 672014336/0x280e2000
 39607 ktrace   CALL  break(0x804c000)
 39607 ktrace   RET   break 0
 39607 ktrace   CALL  break(0x804d000)
 39607 ktrace   RET   break 0
 39607 ktrace   CALL  execve(0xbfbfd79c,0xbfbfdc60,0xbfbfdc6c)
 39607 ktrace   NAMI  "/sbin/ssh"
 39607 ktrace   RET   execve -1 errno 2 No such file or directory
 39607 ktrace   CALL  execve(0xbfbfd79c,0xbfbfdc60,0xbfbfdc6c)
 39607 ktrace   NAMI  "/bin/ssh"
 39607 ktrace   RET   execve -1 errno 2 No such file or directory
 39607 ktrace   CALL  execve(0xbfbfd79c,0xbfbfdc60,0xbfbfdc6c)
 39607 ktrace   NAMI  "/usr/sbin/ssh"
 39607 ktrace   RET   execve -1 errno 2 No such file or directory
 39607 ktrace   CALL  execve(0xbfbfd79c,0xbfbfdc60,0xbfbfdc6c)
 39607 ktrace   NAMI  "/usr/bin/ssh"
 39607 ktrace   RET   execve -1 errno 2 No such file or directory
 39607 ktrace   CALL  execve(0xbfbfd79c,0xbfbfdc60,0xbfbfdc6c)
 39607 ktrace   NAMI  "/usr/games/ssh"
 39607 ktrace   RET   execve -1 errno 2 No such file or directory
 39607 ktrace   CALL  execve(0xbfbfd79c,0xbfbfdc60,0xbfbfdc6c)
 39607 ktrace   NAMI  "/usr/local/bin/ssh"
 39607 ktrace   NAMI  "/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1"
--
Dan Langille  [I'm looking for more work]
http://www.langille.org


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Sometimes just articulating the problem is the most important step in
fixing it.

So immediately after sending that message, having seen mention of the
"stupid" apachectl "script" in the archive of this list, i decided to take
a look inside that /usr/local/sbin/apachectl business and found:

#!/bin/sh
#
# Apache control script designed to allow an easy command line interface
# to controlling Apache.  Written by Marc Slemko, 1997/08/23
...
# the path to your httpd binary, including options if necessary
HTTPD='/usr/local/sbin/apache -f /usr/local/etc/apache/apache.conf'
...

So consider the following issue resolved ;)

On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, James Gill wrote:

->I can start apache with no problems by running
->/usr/local/sbin/apache -f /path/to/my/apache.conf
->by hand or in rc.local
->
->but since the newest fad is to utilize this rc.d business, i find there is
->already an apache.sh there:
->#!/bin/sh
->[ -d /usr/local/pgsql/lib ] && /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/pgsql/lib
->[ -x /usr/local/sbin/apachectl ] && /usr/local/sbin/apachectl start
-># > /dev/null && echo -n ' apache'
->
->Now I can't figure out how to pass a -f paramater to apachectl to tell the
->little bugger which .conf file to readin.
->
->What is suggested here?  edit apache.sh to start '/usr/local/sbin/apache
->-f...' or skip the whole .../rc.d/apache.sh idea altogether?
->
->What is that /usr/local/pgsql/lib starting up with it?  I am assuming it
->is some part of apache/php3 that wants (needs?) to wake up with apache?
note:  i still haven't found out about this part (yet).

--gill




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One of our servers is (still!) running FreeBSD-2.1.0-R (because I
haven't figured out how to upgrade it with as little disruption as I'm
comfortable with).

I've been upgrading the version of the BIND package running on various
machines -- a Solaris 2.6 box & 3 FreeBSD (3.2-R) boxen at home yesterday,
and I did a couple of FreeBSD boxen here at work this morning (3.1-R &
2.2.6-R).

But this one that's running 2.1.0-R chokes in trying to deal with the
src/port/settings script during the initial "make clean":

whistle# 27 make clean
Making /usr/local/src/bind-8.2.2.P5/src/.systype
Making .settings
port/settings: 1: Syntax error: Bad substitution
*** Error code 2

Stop.


OK; so that's a Bad Thing.  :-(

So I tried to figure out what was going on:

whistle# 35 make -n
set -e;  version=`cat Version`;  systype=`sh port/systype .systype`;  if [ $systype = "unknown" ]; then  echo "There is no BIND port for this system in this kit.";  else  settings=`sh port/settings .settings  < port/$systype/Makefile.set`;  PATH=`pwd`/port/$systype/bin:$PATH; export PATH;  for x in include port lib bin; do  ( cd $x; pwd;  eval "make $settings  SYSTYPE=$systype  VER=$version  all";  );  done  fi

OK... so port/settings is just a shell script; I copied it to /tmp and
inserted

set -x
set -v

just after the #!/bin/sh line.

Then:

whistle# 36 sh
# set -e
# export version;version=`cat Version`
# echo $version
8.2.2-P5
# export systype;systype=`sh port/systype .systype`
Using .systype
# echo $systype
freebsd
# export settings;settings=`sh /tmp/settings .settings  < port/$systype/Makefile.set`
+ set -v
+ cachefile=.settings
+ [ -f .settings ]
+ echo Making .settings
Making .settings
+ LC_COLLATE=C
+ export LC_COLLATE
+ result=
/tmp/settings: 1: Syntax error: Bad substitution
whistle# 37 


Bleagh....


So I fired up an xterm for the only general-purpose computer left at
home that didn't get the BIND upgrade over the weekend -- a Sun 3/60,
running SunOS 4.1.1_U1.

And the "make clean" (and other stuff, though it's only perhaps halfway
through the "make all"; I only started it about 30 minutes ago -- Sun
3/60s aren't overwhelmingly fast (any more)) works just fine there... so
I'm wondering if possibly there was a bug in FreeBSD's /bin/sh circa
2.1.0-R that I might be able to circumvent.

Here's the script (as modified with the additional "set" statements):

-------------%<-------------------------------
#!/bin/sh

set -x
set -v

# this process is necessary because make(1) puts its command line into
# the environment, and when we exec a sub-make we need these command
# line settings (like CDEBUG=-g for example) to override what we get out
# of port/$systype/Makefile.set.  therefore feed Makefile.set to this
# and it will merge things appropriately.  a cache file is maintained
# to avoid calling this script way too often.

cachefile=${1-//}
if [ -f "$cachefile" ]; then
        echo "Using $cachefile" >&2
        exec cat $cachefile
fi

case $cachefile in
//) ;;
*)   echo "Making $cachefile" >&2 ;;
esac


# expr is sensitive to LC_COLLATE settings.  We want 'C'.
LC_COLLATE=C
export LC_COLLATE

result=''
while read setting; do
        var=`expr "$setting" : "'\([A-Z0-9_]*\)="`
        val=`expr "$setting" : "'[A-Z0-9_]*=\([^']*\)'\$"`
        eval "env=`echo \\${\$var-'$val'}`"
        result="$result '$var=$env'"
done    

case $cachefile in
//) echo $result ;;
*)  echo $result > $cachefile
    exec cat $cachefile ;;
esac 

exit

------------->%-------------------------------

(Yes, I *know* I need to upgrade the machine.  It is running some rather
mission-critical workload, such as being a critical internal mail relay
& nameserver.  I've been working on lessening our dependence on the one
machine, in preparation for replacing it.  But I have a few other things
to do, too....)

Thanks in advance,
david
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Greetings,
  I recently got my hands on an old DEC pentium 133 PC.  I just got
FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE installed.  I am interested in getting PPPoE
running.  I recompile a kernel with all the NETGRAPH options.  The first
problem I noticed is a 50% success rate on getting a successful
connection.  I start my session with the command "ppp -dedicated".  I
stop the session with "kill ".  When the process terminates,
I get the following 2 messages:

/var/log/messages:
Jan 12 16:48:19 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: Warning: deflink: Oops: Got 8
bytes but 4 byte payload
Jan 12 16:48:20 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: Warning: deflink: Oops: Got 8
bytes but 4 byte payload

When I try to restart "ppp -dedicated" I don't get any special error
messages but a tcpdump suggests that nothing goes out on the Ethernet
interface.  I kill the ppp process and re-issue the command "ppp
-dedicated" and everything works!  I wanted to do more debugging today
but now nothing works.  I am getting a write error on the tun
interface.   Any idea on what extra debugging I could turn on...

Here is my configuration, the output on /var/log/ppp.log for the write
failure and finally output from a successful session:
/etc/ppp/ppp.conf

default:
 set device PPPoE:de0
 set MRU 1490
 set MTU 1490
 set authname user@domain.com
 set authkey password
 set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command
# set log Phase IPCP CCP tun LCP
 set dial
 set login "TIMEOUT 1.5 name:\\r-login:\\U:\\P ocol:PPP HELLO"
 set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0
 add default HISADDR
# enable dns
 set cd off
 set crtscts off

/var/log/ppp.log
--------
Failing Session
--------
Jan 17 13:31:30 freebsd ppp[6886]: Phase: Using interface: tun0
Jan 17 13:31:30 freebsd ppp[6886]: Phase: deflink: Created in closed
state
Jan 17 13:31:30 freebsd ppp[6887]: tun0: Phase: PPP Started (dedicated
mode).
Jan 17 13:31:30 freebsd ppp[6887]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Establish
Jan 17 13:31:30 freebsd ppp[6887]: tun0: Phase: deflink: closed ->
opening
Jan 17 13:31:30 freebsd ppp[6887]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connected!
Jan 17 13:31:30 freebsd ppp[6887]: tun0: Phase: deflink: opening ->
carrier
Jan 17 13:31:31 freebsd ppp[6887]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
Jan 17 13:31:31 freebsd ppp[6887]: tun0: Phase: deflink: carrier -> lcp
Jan 17 13:31:31 freebsd ppp[6887]: tun0: LCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a
transport
Jan 17 13:31:31 freebsd ppp[6887]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change
Initial --> Closed
Jan 17 13:31:31 freebsd ppp[6887]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change
Closed --> Stopped
Jan 17 13:31:32 freebsd ppp[6887]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerStart
Jan 17 13:31:32 freebsd ppp[6887]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1)
state = Stopped
Jan 17 13:31:32 freebsd ppp[6887]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2]
Jan 17 13:31:32 freebsd ppp[6887]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2]
Jan 17 13:31:32 freebsd ppp[6887]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000
Jan 17 13:31:32 freebsd ppp[6887]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1490
Jan 17 13:31:32 freebsd ppp[6887]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x744e7a6d
Jan 17 13:31:32 freebsd ppp[6887]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change
Stopped --> Req-Sent
Jan 17 13:31:32 freebsd ppp[6887]: tun0: Phase: deflink: write (1):
Network is unreachable
Jan 17 13:31:32 freebsd ppp[6887]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change
Req-Sent --> Starting
Jan 17 13:31:32 freebsd ppp[6887]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerFinish
Jan 17 13:31:32 freebsd ppp[6887]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change
Starting --> Initial
Jan 17 13:31:32 freebsd ppp[6887]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
Jan 17 13:31:32 freebsd ppp[6887]: tun0: LCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a
transport
Jan 17 13:31:32 freebsd ppp[6887]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change
Initial --> Closed
Jan 17 13:31:32 freebsd ppp[6887]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change
Closed --> Stopped
Jan 17 13:31:32 freebsd ppp[6887]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
..........................

------
Successful session
------

Jan 12 16:41:40 freebsd ppp[264]: Phase: Using interface: tun0
Jan 12 16:41:40 freebsd ppp[264]: Phase: deflink: Created in closed
state
Jan 12 16:41:41 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a
transport
Jan 12 16:41:41 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change
Initial --> Closed
Jan 12 16:41:41 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change
Closed --> Stopped
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerStart
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1)
state = Stopped
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2]
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2]
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1490
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x52516508
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change
Stopped --> Req-Sent
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(249)
state = Req-Sent
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x5b6ecd20
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1492
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[5] 0xc223 (CHAP
0x05)
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(249)
state = Req-Sent
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x5b6ecd20
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1492
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[5] 0xc223 (CHAP
0x05)
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change
Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigRej(1)
state = Ack-Sent
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2]
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2]
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(2)
state = Ack-Sent
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1490
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x52516508
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigAck(2)
state = Ack-Sent
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change
Ack-Sent --> Opened
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerUp
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: CCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a
transport
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: CCP: deflink: State change
Initial --> Closed
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: CCP: deflink: LayerStart.
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: CCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1)
state = Closed
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: CCP:  DEFLATE[4] win 15
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: CCP:  PRED1[2]
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: CCP: deflink: State change
Closed --> Req-Sent
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a
transport
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: State change
Initial --> Closed
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: LayerStart.
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1)
state = Closed
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP:  IPADDR[6]  10.0.0.1
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP:  COMPPROTO[6]  16 VJ slots
with slot compression
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP:  PRIDNS[6]  10.10.10.10
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP:  SECDNS[6]  20.20.20.20
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: State change
Closed --> Req-Sent
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP: deflink:
RecvConfigReq(220) state = Req-Sent
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP:  IPADDR[6]  10.64.178.94
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP: deflink:
SendConfigAck(220) state = Req-Sent
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP:  IPADDR[6]  10.64.178.94
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: State change
Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink:
RecvProtocolRej(250) state = Opened
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: -- Protocol 0x80fd
(Compression Control Protocol) was rejected!
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: CCP: deflink: State change
Req-Sent --> Stopped
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigRej(1)
state = Ack-Sent
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP:  COMPPROTO[6]  16 VJ slots
with slot compression
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(2)
state = Ack-Sent
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP:  IPADDR[6]  10.0.0.1
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP:  PRIDNS[6]  10.10.10.10
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP:  SECDNS[6]  20.20.20.20
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(2)
state = Ack-Sent
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP:  IPADDR[6]  10.200.0.6
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP:  IPADDR[6]  changing
address: 10.0.0.1  --> 10.200.0.6
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(3)
state = Ack-Sent
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP:  IPADDR[6]  10.200.0.6
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP:  PRIDNS[6]  10.10.10.10
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP:  SECDNS[6]  20.20.20.20
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigAck(3)
state = Ack-Sent
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: State change
Ack-Sent --> Opened
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: LayerUp.
Jan 12 16:41:42 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP: myaddr 10.200.0.6 hisaddr
= 10.64.178.94
Jan 12 16:41:53 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvEchoRequest(0)
state = Opened
Jan 12 16:41:53 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendEchoReply(0)
state = Opened
Jan 12 16:42:04 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvEchoRequest(1)
state = Opened
Jan 12 16:42:04 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendEchoReply(1)
state = Opened
Jan 12 16:42:14 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvEchoRequest(2)
state = Opened
Jan 12 16:42:14 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendEchoReply(2)
state = Opened
Jan 12 16:42:25 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvEchoRequest(3)
state = Opened
--- repeating lines deleted
Jan 12 16:48:03 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink:
RecvEchoRequest(34) state = Opened
Jan 12 16:48:03 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendEchoReply(34)
state = Opened
Jan 12 16:48:13 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink:
RecvEchoRequest(35) state = Opened
Jan 12 16:48:14 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendEchoReply(35)
state = Opened
Jan 12 16:48:19 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: LayerDown:
10.200.0.6
Jan 12 16:48:19 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP: deflink:
SendTerminateReq(4) state = Opened
Jan 12 16:48:19 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: State change
Opened --> Closing
Jan 12 16:48:19 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: Warning: deflink: Oops: Got 8
bytes but 4 byte payload
Jan 12 16:48:19 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP: deflink:
RecvTerminateAck(4) state = Closing
Jan 12 16:48:19 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: LayerFinish.
Jan 12 16:48:19 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP: Connect time: 397 secs: 0
octets in, 0 octets out
Jan 12 16:48:19 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP:  total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0
bytes/sec on Wed Jan 12 16:48:19 2000
Jan 12 16:48:19 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: State change
Closing --> Closed
Jan 12 16:48:19 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: CCP: deflink: State change
Stopped --> Closed
Jan 12 16:48:19 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: CCP: deflink: State change
Closed --> Initial
Jan 12 16:48:19 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerDown
Jan 12 16:48:19 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink:
SendTerminateReq(3) state = Opened
Jan 12 16:48:19 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change
Opened --> Closing
Jan 12 16:48:19 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: State change
Closed --> Initial
Jan 12 16:48:19 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: Warning: deflink: Oops: Got 8
bytes but 4 byte payload
Jan 12 16:48:19 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink:
RecvTerminateAck(3) state = Closing
Jan 12 16:48:19 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerFinish
Jan 12 16:48:19 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change
Closing --> Closed
Jan 12 16:48:19 freebsd ppp[265]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change
Closed --> Initial


Regards,
Dany Cayouette




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I'm trying to give myself a signal when my ppp link comes up, since i
don't have a blinking modem applet like Gnome or KDE.  Why does this
say invalid command for the cat command and the echo command?

rcn:
  /bin/cat /usr/home/jcm/files/sorrydave.au > /dev/audio
  echo "\a\a"
  !bg /usr/local/sbin/adzapper
  delete ALL
  add 0 0 HISADDR
ba:
  delete ALL
  add default HISADDR
  enable dns
bas:
  delete ALL
  add default HISADDR
  enable dns
rcns:
  delete ALL
  add default HISADDR





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On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 08:44:41PM -0500, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

> I'm trying to give myself a signal when my ppp link comes up, since i
> don't have a blinking modem applet like Gnome or KDE.  Why does this
> say invalid command for the cat command and the echo command?
> 
> rcn:
>   /bin/cat /usr/home/jcm/files/sorrydave.au > /dev/audio
>   echo "\a\a"
>   !bg /usr/local/sbin/adzapper
>   delete ALL
>   add 0 0 HISADDR

'Cos these aren't commands that ppp(1) understands. You need to
precede those lines with "shell" or "!".

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On 18 Jan 00, at 1:30, Roelof Osinga wrote:

> So that does not look like a refused connection but indeed more like
> some key or whatever that is nonexistent. Maybe the HostKey parameter
> changed somehow?

Hmmm, there's a better Ktrace at 
http://www.freebsddiary.com/ktrace3.txt

be warned:  it's 277K.  Here's the last bit:

 39909 ssh      RET   read 4096/0x1000
 39909 ssh      CALL  madvise(0x8074000,0x1000,0x5)
 39909 ssh      RET   madvise 0
 39909 ssh      CALL  madvise(0x8073000,0x1000,0x5)
 39909 ssh      RET   madvise 0
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 39909 ssh      RET   close 0
 39909 ssh      CALL  madvise(0x8071000,0x1000,0x5)
 39909 ssh      RET   madvise 0
 39909 ssh      CALL  read(0x3,0xbfbfd264,0x1)
 39909 ssh      GIO   fd 3 read 0 bytes
       ""
 39909 ssh      RET   read 0
 39909 ssh      CALL  write(0x2,0xbfbfc5c8,0x3c)
 39909 ssh      GIO   fd 2 wrote 60 bytes
       "ssh_exchange_identification: read: No such file or directory"
 39909 ssh      RET   write 60/0x3c
 39909 ssh      CALL  write(0x2,0xbfbfc5c0,0x2)
 39909 ssh      GIO   fd 2 wrote 2 bytes
       "\r
       "
 39909 ssh      RET   write 2
 39909 ssh      CALL  shutdown(0x3,0x2)
 39909 ssh      RET   shutdown 0
 39909 ssh      CALL  close(0x3)
 39909 ssh      RET   close 0
 39909 ssh      CALL  madvise(0x806b000,0x1000,0x5)
 39909 ssh      RET   madvise 0
 39909 ssh      CALL  madvise(0x806c000,0x1000,0x5)
 39909 ssh      RET   madvise 0
 39909 ssh      CALL  madvise(0x806f000,0x1000,0x5)
 39909 ssh      RET   madvise 0
 39909 ssh      CALL  madvise(0x8070000,0x1000,0x5)
 39909 ssh      RET   madvise 0
 39909 ssh      CALL  exit(0xff)
--
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On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 01:51:38PM -0700, Duke Normandin wrote:
> On 01/17/2000 6:03:50 AM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> 
> >On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 06:24:04PM -0700, Duke Normandin wrote:
> >>
> >> What criterion (ia) are used for determining the use of ipfw or natd
> >> in creating a firewall? TIA..
> >
> >You can use both on the same `firewall'.
> >
> >They are two different programs, with a different purpose each.
> >
> 
> I gathered as much now....thanks! I'm now curious to read the answer to the post with 
> the subject line, "ipf/ipnat vs ipfw/natd", as well as determining whether or not 
> natd's `divert' capabality has (can have) anyhting to do with firewalling.

ipfw(8) has "divert" capability. You must have ipfw enabled and divert
rules in place in order to use natd(8).
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Simple problem:

Does anyone know where I can get some definitive information for CNEWS? =
I've installed

nntp-1.5.12.2.tgz and
cnews-cr.g.tgz

on FreeBSD 3.2 and I've got the news server working, but everything with =
CNEWS comes in a multitude of batch files.  The information I'm looking =
for is essentially this:

When I post a message, the message is stored in /var/news/in.coming/, =
and the only way I can process that directory is to run a newsrun =
script.  Right now I'm running the script with cron every minute to =
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Simple problem:


 


Does anyone know where I can get some =
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cnews-cr.g.tgz


 


on FreeBSD 3.2 and I've got the news =
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working, but everything with CNEWS comes in a multitude of batch =
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The information I'm looking for is essentially this:


 


When I post a message, the message is =
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As far as I can tell it doesn't even _compile_ under 3.x, much less run,
with or without SMP.

Later,
scott

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alfred Perlstein" 
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Subject: Re: kernel threads


> * Jonathon McKitrick  [000117 11:55] wrote:
> >
> > Isn't there a difference between linuxthreads and native FreeBSD kernel
> > threads?
>
> No, the port gives freebsd linux-like kernel threads.  Don't expect it
> to work on 3.x+SMP though.
>
> -Alfred
>
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Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, R Joseph Wright wrote:
> 
> >One thing is, how come Kde only comes with a small handful of themes
> >when built using the ports?  When I was running linux mandrake, I had no
> >fewer than 20 themes that came with Kde.  The same is true of
> >enlightenment under FreeBSD.  There isn't even the "clean" theme that
> >goes so well with Gnome.  This is in fact a big reason I won't use
> >Gnome.
> 
> Funny you should say that  :-)  I came over to FreeBSD from Mandrake as
> well.  And i loved all the themes and the KDM login manager with all its
> fancy controls.  I switched around OCT 1st, right after 6.1 came out.
> 
> I think Mandrake just caters more to the desktop user, with more themes
> and toys.  Go to www.themes.org, and DL themes till your heart's
> content!  They work well, and i have found all my favorites there,
> including the Gotham theme for KDE that also is available for WM.

I went there and they have an amazing number of themes for any window
manager.  Now I have another problem.  My kde doesn't seem to have a
theme manager!  In fact, when I went to the kde control center, it
opened up the window, but inside it was empty.  I also went to the main
menu, settings, desktop, but no themes.  Kdebase is supposed to contain
the theme manager.  What's going wrong here? 


-- 
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Hi,

On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Salvo Bartolotta wrote:

> > [me going off about how make deinstall does the right thing snipped]

> I write again because I am not sure that your last point is valid;

Um, oops.  You're right - a make deinstall digs for the PKGNAME found in
the port Makefile and tries to pkg_delete that.  Other than that it
appears to do pretty much exactly what a pkg_delete does.  

Sorry about that - I even looked at bsd.port.mk when I typed the first
message...

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Ok, here's your $100000 answer

you need to edit or create the file genericstable, in there you have stuff
like this

admin@jazz-sax.com        ericdano
rory                      rory@jazz-sax.com


The second line says that the user rory will have rory@jazz-sax.com tagged
to all outbound email messages.

Make sure you do a makemap hash or whatever. The standard sendmail.cf file
should not need anything added............

later




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From: Oliver Fromme 
To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG 
Date: Monday, January 17, 2000 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: Volatile variables


>Mikhail Evstiounin  wrote in
list.freebsd-questions:
> >>No.  Except if your processor is broken.  :-)
> >
> > Oliver, what about timer registers or serial interface registers?
> > what about mapped video memory or shared memory in multi
> > CPU system?
>
>It has nothing to do with the issue.
>You claimed that the processor could be interrupted in the
>middle of an assembler instruction, which is incorrect.
>At least for all processor types that I know about.


I just reread all my postings here and didn't find that I claimed this.
Maximum what I claimed is"

"
Wrong, wrong and wrong. Hardware generates interrupts,
changes statues and value in hardware registers totaly async
and this process is out of your control. Hardware register
can change its value even during totally masked status of CPU.
"

I don't remember that I told that CPU could be interrupted in the middle of
command. But I was talking that hardware can geberate interruption even CPU
is in the middle of the command. That's still true. CPU has usualy one line
for interruption (well, I am talking about intel architecture now, because,
there are CPUs with multiple int lines) and can masked it wit command cli or
open it with command sti. Ther e is an interuptoin controller - completely
another chip - it has 8 lines for different hardware and priorities
(everything could programmed). That's why first IBM PC had 8 ints. Then
somebody cascaded two controllers and it's how all PC have 15 ints now.
Controller(s) maps all this line to the one CPU line. That's why you can
completely stop cpu in a real mode by the following sequence:
    cli
    hlt
Moreover if you have appropriate rights, you can still do it in protected
(or priveledge) mode. Intel 386 architecture has 4 rings of protections,
most of operating systems use barely 2 - it's much simplier. From the point
of CPU, there is no async interruption. CPU, usually at the begining of
command execution (better to say at some stage of command execution) polls
the state of interruption line and, if there is a signal, then it will do
something - call handler, for example. So you cannot interrupt CPU in the
middle of command, but hardware can generate signal in the middle of
execution - signal will not be hadled immidiatelly, but it's still there.


>
> >>There is no concurrency.  Even if you have two processors,
> >>the signal handler will not run in parallel to the "main"
> >>part of the program.
> >
> > I agree completely, I was trying to stress a difference  between
sighandler
> > and threads and unix processes.
>
>Oh, then I misunderstood you, sorry.  Of course, a sighandler
>is something completely cifferent.  :-)
>
> >>But setting singal masks does not prevent those register
> >>optimizations.  You _must_ use "volatile" for this.
> >
> > In a way, how you proposed - yes, but it's not enough.
>
>It depends on the program, and what it uses the variables for.
>That's a different issue, not subject to this discussion.
>


I am looking at this a little bit differently - if sighandler is going to
change any value then vilotile is not enough. But for reading purpose - it's
OK.

>This discussion is about using the "volatile" qualifier, which
>is necessary for global variables that are accessed from within
>signal handlers.  You did not agree with this (do you still not
>agree?), and I'm trying to convince you that it _is_ indeed
>necessary.  :-)

See my comments below - I am not completely disaggree or agree - I
distinguish different cases for vilotile usage - somewhere I agree,
somewhere I don't.

>
> >> > Vilotile tells to compiler (and to programmer)
> >> > that j can have a very strange result.
> >>
> >>That's completely wrong.
> >
> > So, if programmer wites j = i * i; (s)he doesn't expect to get a square?
I
> > understand, that according to standard vilotile means it, but it's not
> > intuitive. That's why I told that vilotile tells to compiler and to
> > programmer - expect something strange.
>
>No, that's still wrong.
>
>Without volatile, you can get exactly the same "strange"
>result.
>
>You asked me to quote from the standard.  This is not easy,
>because volatile is mentioned in a lot of places, and I don't
>have it in *.txt form, so I have to type everything manually
>from it.  Here are a few sections which I think are pretty

I wish I could do it too:-)

>important:
>
>
>   [...]  an implementation might perform various optimizations
>   within each translation unit, such that the actual semantics
>   would agree with the abstract semantics only when making
>   function calls across translation unit boundaries.  [...]
>   In this type of implementation, objects referred to by

     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I believe, this one of the key words

>   interrupt service routines activated by the signal function
>   would require explicit specification of "volatile" storage
>   [...]
>
>
>
>   A "volatile" declaration may be used to describe an object
>   corresponding to a memory-mapped input/output port or an
>   object accessed by an asynchronously interrupting function.
>   Actions on objects so declared shall not be "optimized out"


^^^^^^^^^^^^^
this is a slang, but I was talking exactly about this - avoid "too smart"
optimizations, but not all of them.

>   by an implementation or reordered except as permitted by the
>   rules for evaluating expressions.
>
>
>
>   If the signal occurs [...], the behavior is undefined if the
>   signal handler refers to any object with static storage
>   duration other than by assigning a value to an object
>   declared as "volatile sig_atomic_t" [...]
>
>
>It sounds like you cannot even read a global variable inside a
>signal handler, even if it's volatile.  I didn't know this
>before (and I think it's strange), but that's what the standard
>says.


This is my point. But my reading is slightly different: if sighandler uses
variable for "reading" purposes and this variable is not declared with
vilotile then behavior is undefined, because synonyms could exist and value
of synonym could be chaged and not synchronized with main copy. In other
words, vilotile would guarantee that if sighandler reads data, then
everything is consistant, but if sighandler is trying to write to a
variable, then vilotile is not enough.

>
>Regards
>   Oliver
>
>--
>Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany
>(Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de)
>
>"In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt"
>                                         (Terry Pratchett)
>
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You're not alone with this error message. I think there's a flaw in
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 >Lately, this has been happening :


 >ping: no bufferspace available


 >Could this be an overloaded or perhaps a soon to be bad network card? It 
seems to happen pretty randomly, and has to be rebooted to fix it. I'>ve 
increased Maxusers and NMBCLUSTERS, didn't make any difference. This is a 
Tulip based card, specifcally a Kingston KNE-110TX. >When we tried using a 
FreeBSD box as a router with an ET card and the same thing happened, and 
switching to an INtel Etherexpress fixed >it. Maybe its just overloaded....



Anyone? Someone must know something.... :(   I searched the archives, and 
pretty all I found were people asking the same question with no follow up. 
I have not tried swapping the NIC card, but I'm sure there could be 
something else besides that, that could be the problem.




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Hmm.  I dunno.  I would try this:  I would recompile using the -g argument 
(Unless I knew it was already compiled with -g) then I would gdb it.

Jim


At 21:04 17-01-00 +0600, Alexey N. Dokuchaev wrote:
>Hi!
>
>So, i'm trying to run sniffit-3.0.7beta from 3.4-RELEASE packages.  I have
>not done kernel re-compilation yet, so there's only 1 bpf, I believe (if
>this is the problem, though I doubt it).
>
>Under root, I type 'sniffit -i' -- it shows up normal to me (I've used it
>quite a lot under Linux), but after a second or two, it hangs with this
>message:
>
>Jan 17 20:11:41 myhost /kernel: pid 2201 (sniffit), uid 0: exited on
>signal 11 (core dumped)
>
>if I press ^C here, i'll be dropped to shell prompt.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>./danfe
>
>
>
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Hello-I have just tried to install, by cd, my new copy of 3.4-Release and
ran into an odd problem-The installation went (as usual) flawlessly until I
tried to get back into the distributions page to install the games and
dictionary distribs-I got a signal 11 and the installation failed at that
point-I went ahead and rebooted and every thing seemed O.K. (the genious of
the whole thing is that even for a non-programmer the work arounds were
simple and effective) but I am wondering if it is something on the cdrom set
or something I am missing-I went ahead and built both pgp and mutt with no
problems. I tried to use sysinstall after installation and got the same
error-I did a quick check of the mailing list archive but found nothing even
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How much memory do you have?  How much swap space you have available?

Jim

At 19:25 17-01-00 -0800, Shawn Ramsey wrote:
> >Lately, this has been happening :
>
>
> >ping: no bufferspace available
>
>
> >Could this be an overloaded or perhaps a soon to be bad network card? It 
> seems to happen pretty randomly, and has to be rebooted to fix it. I'>ve 
> increased Maxusers and NMBCLUSTERS, didn't make any difference. This is a 
> Tulip based card, specifcally a Kingston KNE-110TX. >When we tried using 
> a FreeBSD box as a router with an ET card and the same thing happened, 
> and switching to an INtel Etherexpress fixed >it. Maybe its just overloaded....
>
>
>
>Anyone? Someone must know something.... :(   I searched the archives, and 
>pretty all I found were people asking the same question with no follow up. 
>I have not tried swapping the NIC card, but I'm sure there could be 
>something else besides that, that could be the problem.
>
>
>
>
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Hi All

I reconfigured my kernel to support USB (I simply added the relevant
lines from the LINT file in the config directory) recompiled and
installed the kernel. However the kernel when booting does not seem to
recognize that I have an onboard controller. Do I actually need a device
attached to the usb bus? How do I find out if there is a resource
conflict. I have no idea what type of controller I have on my
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available. Any help would be appreciated.

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"Corey C. Foegen" writes:
> Dear Sir or Madam,
> We hope you would answer some questions we may have about Free BSD. It
> sounds like a great product and we would like some clarity. 

Its my guess you didn't know questions@freebsd.org address posted on the
web site was actually a mailing list going to thousands of people. An
Apple Computer employee got tripped by that one too.

> We are presently running Windows 98 as well as other MS product
> software. Being an operating system, would Free BSD replace Windows,
> supplement or otherwise be found as a replacement for the DOS.

FreeBSD is a Unix-like OS. DOS is not. While FreeBSD has some ability 
to emulate DOS and/or Windows, it is neither.

> Another question would be how greatly improved will security be from
> hackers (we were hit once before)? And if not,would you have any
> recommendations for security and fire wall?

As a general rule attacks which work against Windows do not work 
against FreeBSD because FreeBSD is not Windows and is not Windows 
compatible.

We (the users of FreeBSD) believe it is more secure than Win9x, NT, or 
2000.

The ultimate question is "what do you want to do with a computer?" In a
reversal the past 5 or 10 years it is now cheaper (cash out of pocket)
to run a Unix-like OS than anything else. You won't be running Microsoft
Office any time soon under Linux (a not-as-good-as-FreeBSD alternative
to FreeBSD) but the $100 Applixware package is awfully good. Maybe
better than MS-Office simply because it doesn't have cupholders and
fairings.

If you want to play the latest games, then you have to stick with a 
game OS such as those Microsoft sells.

> And the final question- if we decide to persue with Free BSD, could
> you tell us the price for the CDROM (we have a Creative Labs 8X CDROM
> drive) and to whom we can send a check as well as the time expected
> time frame for delivery?

http://www.cdrom.com/ has the answers. $39.95 for one, $24.95 if you
"subscribe" to 3 or 4 sets per year. Plus $5 S/H. They take credit cards
too. Plus you can download and use a copy for free. And make as many
copies of that as you need. But keep in mind that its purchase of
CDROM's, shirts, jackets, stickers, stuffed daemon plushies, etc., which
pay for hosting FreeBSD on the 'net, for much of the development
hardware, and for some of the salaries of those who work full time on
FreeBSD.

Somewhere among http://www.cdrom.com/ and http://www.freebsdmall.com/ 
there is an order item for donations to FreeBSD Inc., a not-for-profit 
corporation: http://www.freebsdmall.com/donate/

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AHow much memory do you have?  How much swap space you have available?


Plenty of both... 198MB of RAM and about 320MB of swap space.




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hello,
I'm a new freebsd user and i'm having a problem with windowmanager, i get
some blacksquares instead of text in the menus, and almost everywhere.

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While configuring fetchmail (installed from the ports collection), I
have come across some problems. I tried to run
'/usr/local/bin/fetchmailconf', a Python script distributed with
fetchmail that uses Tk. This is what I got:

zsh: bus error (core dumped)  fetchmailconf

I am using the latest Python from the ports collection, with Tk 8.2.3
(which was installed as a dependancy by the Python port). 

I have put the python.core it dumps up for download here (~2.2 MB):

http://klamath.dyndns.org/python.core

I'm running fetchmailconf inside X, and I have tried installing the
tk8.0.5 port instead of tk8.2, but when I do that, Python doesn't even
run (the ports tree Python only works with tk 8.2 - the latest
official Python release only works with tk 8.0). If someone is pretty
sure the fetchmailconf script is not compatible with latest version of
Python | TK, I'll compile an official version of Python myself, and
see if that works (I haven't done that yet since the error doesn't
seem like it is related to TK)..

Is this a known problem? Should I report this to the fetchmail people?
Or is it something FreeBSD-centric?

Oh, and I'm a FreeBSD newbie. Should I have posted this to -bugs? Does
that deal with FreeBSD (kernel?) related bugs only, or ports tree
bugs, or what?

Thanks in advance,

Neil
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Jan 17 20:46: 7 2000
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Hello,
	This is my first time ever trying to get support with freebsd, i'm not even sure if 
im mailing the correct address, or if I have to sign up to this mailing list to get a reply.

So...heres my question
I recently downloaded FreeBSD 3.4 to deploy on a co-located server, and I would like 
to increase the maxsockets variable beyond its default of 1064. How can this be done? 
I have tryed going through the manual and I didnt have any luck, I also tryed using 
sysctl -w kernel.ipc.maxsockets=1064 which told me the value was read only. Please 
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Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:53:00 -0500
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Lets not forget the all too famous www.cheapbytes.com.  Although some don't 
like it...it does distribute a rather nice copy of FreeBSD for a whopping 
$8 (rounded of course w/ s&h).  They also distribute lossa other things 
there too.  :)

Jim

At 21:51 17-01-00 -0600, David Kelly wrote:
>"Corey C. Foegen" writes:
> > Dear Sir or Madam,
> > We hope you would answer some questions we may have about Free BSD. It
> > sounds like a great product and we would like some clarity.
>
>Its my guess you didn't know questions@freebsd.org address posted on the
>web site was actually a mailing list going to thousands of people. An
>Apple Computer employee got tripped by that one too.
>
> > We are presently running Windows 98 as well as other MS product
> > software. Being an operating system, would Free BSD replace Windows,
> > supplement or otherwise be found as a replacement for the DOS.
>
>FreeBSD is a Unix-like OS. DOS is not. While FreeBSD has some ability
>to emulate DOS and/or Windows, it is neither.
>
> > Another question would be how greatly improved will security be from
> > hackers (we were hit once before)? And if not,would you have any
> > recommendations for security and fire wall?
>
>As a general rule attacks which work against Windows do not work
>against FreeBSD because FreeBSD is not Windows and is not Windows
>compatible.
>
>We (the users of FreeBSD) believe it is more secure than Win9x, NT, or
>2000.
>
>The ultimate question is "what do you want to do with a computer?" In a
>reversal the past 5 or 10 years it is now cheaper (cash out of pocket)
>to run a Unix-like OS than anything else. You won't be running Microsoft
>Office any time soon under Linux (a not-as-good-as-FreeBSD alternative
>to FreeBSD) but the $100 Applixware package is awfully good. Maybe
>better than MS-Office simply because it doesn't have cupholders and
>fairings.
>
>If you want to play the latest games, then you have to stick with a
>game OS such as those Microsoft sells.
>
> > And the final question- if we decide to persue with Free BSD, could
> > you tell us the price for the CDROM (we have a Creative Labs 8X CDROM
> > drive) and to whom we can send a check as well as the time expected
> > time frame for delivery?
>
>http://www.cdrom.com/ has the answers. $39.95 for one, $24.95 if you
>"subscribe" to 3 or 4 sets per year. Plus $5 S/H. They take credit cards
>too. Plus you can download and use a copy for free. And make as many
>copies of that as you need. But keep in mind that its purchase of
>CDROM's, shirts, jackets, stickers, stuffed daemon plushies, etc., which
>pay for hosting FreeBSD on the 'net, for much of the development
>hardware, and for some of the salaries of those who work full time on
>FreeBSD.
>
>Somewhere among http://www.cdrom.com/ and http://www.freebsdmall.com/
>there is an order item for donations to FreeBSD Inc., a not-for-profit
>corporation: http://www.freebsdmall.com/donate/
>
>--
>David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net
>=====================================================================
>The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its
>capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.
>
>
>
>
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Today's errors, in contrast:
Windows - "Invalid page fault in module kernel32.dll at 0032:A16F2935"
UNIX  - "segmentation fault - core dumped"
Humanous Beingsus - "OOPS, I've fallen and I can't get up"
-------------------------------
Jim Conner
NOTJames
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Hi,

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Hello,
 Has anyone had any experience with freebsd 3.4 not properly detecting 
the 3rd pci bus on a dell poweredge 2400? It all works fine on a dell
2300 but on a 2400, freebsd does not see anything plugged into the 
expansion pci bus.

 Is this fixed in some later version of freebsd? Is this a known 
problem? to give some background, the poweredge 2400 has onboard scsi as
well (on the motherboard). We disabled that to try to isolate what the
issue might be but that still did not help. The poweredge failed to
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card.

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Hi All!
How to change a key for changing keymap
Default setting is Caps Lock
I want to Right Alt or Right Ctrl
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Jim Conner wrote:

> Lets not forget the all too famous www.cheapbytes.com.  Although some don't 
> like it...it does distribute a rather nice copy of FreeBSD for a whopping 
> $8 (rounded of course w/ s&h).  They also distribute lossa other things 
> there too.  :)
> 
> Jim
> 
Ah but then you don't get to donate to the cause.  Maybe Walnut Creek
should look into offering a one disk $8 version?  I used to have a
subscription, for the convenience of the CDs, and to donate to the cause,
but $100/year is a bit steep for me (I could get Windows for that price,
not that I'd want it) so I cancelled it.

Now that I'm colocated, cvsup is much easier than the CDs anyway though.
Maybe I'll just make random donations, although I probably can't deduct
that as a business expense on my taxes like the CDs.



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Hello,

I've got a very similar setup at home.

Last summer, before our provider set up a bandwidth cap, I could easily download at more than 2 Mpbs with a "vanilla" p5-200 running FreeBSD and two NE-2000 boards (including one ISA)

I have changed my setup, and now my gateway is a lowly 486dx-33. The CPU load increases to around 20% when downloading with the new transfer rate (512kbps). This PC uses two NE2000 ISA boards. this is with a recent -Stable

If you want to investigate a bit further on why you can't get a good rate, you should begin with "load" measures, that is running top or systat -vmstat while a download is in progress - thus you'll see if your gateway is CPU-bound (very unlikely)

     TfH





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I just got a new cable modem for my home network, so I set up one machine with FreeBSD 3.4 as a gateway running ipfw with open
policy, and IP aliasing with natd. I am getting a big drop in throughput after implemented this. Originally, my peer Win98 computer
that was connected directly to the cable modem was reading 35 Kb/sec download rate from ftp.freebsd.org site. After going through my
Gateway the rate dropped to 8-10 Kb/sec. I went through the mailing list archives and the only thing I could find was to avoid cheap
NE2000 clone cards which I am currently using. However, I can't believe that cards alone would be the cause for this drop in
throughput. What could I do to remedy this?

I am running FreeBSD 3.4 as a gateway
Pentium 200
2 GB IDE drive
32 MB RAM
Cable Modem is Plugged into ISA NE2000 clone
Another LinkSYS PCI NE2000 connects this machine to my network hub
I am running cache only DNS on this machine

I have 3 other computers with various OS's connected to my hub.

I am also running lots of services and apps on this gateway including Apache, mysql, NFS server, SAMBA, X windows on and off, etc.

My question is:
1) How can I get the highest throughput via this gateway?
2) Should I strip this machine of all extra apps and services except IP aliasing and IPFW and DNS?
3) Would adding more RAM make much difference?
4) Are my network cards sufficient for providing high throughput for 2 simultaneous Internet users?
5) Am I missing anything here?

Thanks,

Alex


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Can't we just let this thread die, please?
The sections which I quoted from the standard are _perfectly_
clean, and I don't think they can be misinterpreted in the way
you do.  Please get the document yourself, and read those
sections in whole.  And don't forget the definitions of
"shall", "undefined" etc.  :-)

Mikhail Evstiounin  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > From: Oliver Fromme 
 >>It has nothing to do with the issue.
 >>You claimed that the processor could be interrupted in the
 >>middle of an assembler instruction, which is incorrect.
 >>At least for all processor types that I know about.
 > 
 > I just reread all my postings here and didn't find that I claimed this.

Mikhail, you wrote in your posting that arrived here at 17 Jan
2000 05:53:13 GMT:


   This is one part, but you missed another - value of a register
   could be changed completely in the middle of an assembler command.


 >>It depends on the program, and what it uses the variables for.
 >>That's a different issue, not subject to this discussion.
 > 
 > I am looking at this a little bit differently - if sighandler is going to
 > change any value then vilotile is not enough.

That statement is wrong.  If your sighandler only changes a
variable which is declared ``volatile sig_atomic_t'', and the
rest of the program only reads from it, then it works perfectly
well.

(If other parts of the program want to write to that variable,
too, you have to mask the signal, of course.  But this is not
the topic of this discussion, which is only about the necessity
of "volatile".)

 >>This discussion is about using the "volatile" qualifier, which
 >>is necessary for global variables that are accessed from within
 >>signal handlers.  You did not agree with this (do you still not
 >>agree?), and I'm trying to convince you that it _is_ indeed
 >>necessary.  :-)
 > 
 > See my comments below - I am not completely disaggree or agree - I
 > distinguish different cases for vilotile usage - somewhere I agree,
 > somewhere I don't.

Then you're somewhere wrong, I'm afraid.  :-)

 >>   In this type of implementation, objects referred to by
 > 
 >      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I believe, this one of the key words

Please read the whole chapter.  ``This type of implementation''
is referring to an optimizing compiler (naturally, a compiler
which does not do any optimizations does not have to handle
"volatile" variables in a special way).  But since almost all
software is compiled with optimizations, the point is pretty
much irrelevant.  Many compilers even perform some simple
("inexpensive") optimizations when you don't specify -O.  gcc
is an example of this.

 >>
 >>   A "volatile" declaration may be used to describe an object
 >>   corresponding to a memory-mapped input/output port or an
 >>   object accessed by an asynchronously interrupting function.
 >>   Actions on objects so declared shall not be "optimized out"
 > 
 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 > this is a slang, but I was talking exactly about this - avoid "too smart"
 > optimizations, but not all of them.

``Avoid "too smark" optimizations'' is pretty sloppy.  It is
more accurate to say ``must not use register optimizations''.
And even that is still sloppy -- the description in the
standard is probably most exact.

 >>
 >>   If the signal occurs [...], the behavior is undefined if the
 >>   signal handler refers to any object with static storage
 >>   duration other than by assigning a value to an object
 >>   declared as "volatile sig_atomic_t" [...]
 >>

That was probably the most important section, and it's very
clear.  There's no need to discuss this any further.  :)

 > This is my point. But my reading is slightly different:

Then your reading is wrong, I'm afraid.

 > if sighandler uses
 > variable for "reading" purposes and this variable is not declared with
 > vilotile then behavior is undefined, because synonyms could exist and value
 > of synonym could be chaged and not synchronized with main copy. In other
 > words, vilotile would guarantee that if sighandler reads data, then
 > everything is consistant, but if sighandler is trying to write to a
 > variable, then vilotile is not enough.

That's not what the above paragraph says.  I'm sorry, but I
have no idea how you can misinterpret it in that way

Regards
   Oliver

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Shawn Ramsey writes:
>AHow much memory do you have?  How much swap space you have available?
>
>
>Plenty of both... 198MB of RAM and about 320MB of swap space.
>

This message usually means that queued packets are not going out the
interface. If you ``ifconfig down'' followed by ``ifconfig up'' the
interface the queued packets will be discarded - easier than doing a
reboot.

IMHO this indicates that you have a problem with your hardware (NIC, hub,
switch, what have you).

This shows up alot with ISDN, that's why I know about it.

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David Heller  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > I reconfigured my kernel to support USB (I simply added the relevant
 > lines from the LINT file in the config directory) recompiled and
 > installed the kernel. However the kernel when booting does not seem to
 > recognize that I have an onboard controller.

Which version of FreeBSD are you using?  (Why do people always
forget to mention this in the first place?!?)

Is the USB controller enabled in the BIOS setup?

Please send us your kernel config file, and `dmesg` output.

Regards
   Oliver

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I recall seeing crt1.0 getting lost during fsck after a crash.

Now I'm unable to 'make world'. The linker can't find crt0

yet I'm not sure exactly where it should be, there is a crt1.0

in /usr/lib but I would expect the 'make world' should be useing

a copy made for the build.

Any suggestions?

-piet

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I recall seeing crt1.0 getting lost during fsck after a crash.



Now I'm unable to 'make world'. The linker can't find crt0



yet I'm not sure exactly where it should be, there is a crt1.0



in /usr/lib but I would expect the 'make world' should be useing



a copy made for the build.






Any suggestions?






-piet






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cc -O -pipe -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\"  -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/../../../../contrib/texinfo -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/../../../../contrib/texinfo/lib   -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include  -o makeinfo cmds.o defun.o files.o footnote.o html.o index.o insertion.o lang.o macro.o makeinfo.o multi.o node.o sectioning.o toc.o  /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/../libtxi/libtxi.a 
/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot open crt1.o: No such file or directory
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

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On Tue, Jan 18, 2000 at 02:01:56AM -0800, Piet Delaney wrote:
> I recall seeing crt1.0 getting lost during fsck after a crash.
> Now I'm unable to 'make world'. The linker can't find crt0
> yet I'm not sure exactly where it should be, there is a crt1.0
> in /usr/lib but I would expect the 'make world' should be useing
> a copy made for the build.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
This has been fixed in src/Makefile.inc1,v 1.130 by moving
gnu/usr.bin/texinfo before gnu/usr.bin/cc:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/Makefile.inc1?r1=1.129&r2=1.130

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------cc -O -pipe -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\"  -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/../../../../contrib/texinfo -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/../../../../contrib/texinfo/lib   -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/../../../../contrib/texinfo/makeinfo/toc.c
> cc -O -pipe -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\"  -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/../../../../contrib/texinfo -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/../../../../contrib/texinfo/lib   -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include  -o makeinfo cmds.o defun.o files.o footnote.o html.o index.o insertion.o lang.o macro.o makeinfo.o multi.o node.o sectioning.o toc.o  /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/../libtxi/libtxi.a
> /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot open crt1.o: No such file or directory
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------

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Hello,

I was wondering if anyone can find the dmail.tgz and dnews.tgz for a
"simple" solution to deploy dmail and dnews?


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Hello!

  I'm just set up server for serving incoming ppp connections from M$
Win. User logging in by rlogin, 'ppp -direct' is it's shell.
/etc/ppp/ppp.conf tuned for arp proxy, enabling dns and giving some
addresses from out LAN to ppp users.
All work right, but i have some error messages on console during ppp
connect:

routed[9849]: IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP ALLHOSTS: Address already in use
routed[9849]: setsockopt(IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP RIP): Address already in use
routed[9849]: ignore RTM_ADD without gateway
routed[9849]: IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP ALLHOSTS: Address already in use
routed[9849]: ignore RTM_ADD without gateway
routed[9849]: IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP ALLHOSTS: Address already in use
routed[9849]: setsockopt(IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP RIP): Address already in use
routed[9849]: ignore RTM_ADD without gateway
ppp[10390]: Error: ID0logout: No longer logged in on ttyp1
routed[9849]: interface tun0 to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx turned off

Is it ok? Can i avoid this annoying messages?

ps. Sorry for my english. Hope you understand me.

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Hello!

  I'm just set up server for serving incoming ppp connections from M$
Win. User logging in by rlogin, 'ppp -direct' is it's shell.
/etc/ppp/ppp.conf tuned for arp proxy, enabling dns and giving some
addresses from out LAN to ppp users.
All work right, but i have some error messages on console during ppp
connect:

routed[9849]: IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP ALLHOSTS: Address already in use
routed[9849]: setsockopt(IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP RIP): Address already in use
routed[9849]: ignore RTM_ADD without gateway
routed[9849]: IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP ALLHOSTS: Address already in use
routed[9849]: ignore RTM_ADD without gateway
routed[9849]: IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP ALLHOSTS: Address already in use
routed[9849]: setsockopt(IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP RIP): Address already in use
routed[9849]: ignore RTM_ADD without gateway
ppp[10390]: Error: ID0logout: No longer logged in on ttyp1
routed[9849]: interface tun0 to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx turned off

Is it ok? Can i avoid this annoying messages?

ps. Sorry for my english. Hope you understand me.
pps. please cc: to my e-mail. i'm not subscribed to -questions

Best regards,
 Sergey                           mailto:lw@pd.chel.ru
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On Tue, Jan 18, 2000 at 12:13:26PM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2000 at 02:01:56AM -0800, Piet Delaney wrote:
> > I recall seeing crt1.0 getting lost during fsck after a crash.
> > Now I'm unable to 'make world'. The linker can't find crt0
> > yet I'm not sure exactly where it should be, there is a crt1.0
> > in /usr/lib but I would expect the 'make world' should be useing
> > a copy made for the build.
> > 
> > Any suggestions?
> > 
> This has been fixed in src/Makefile.inc1,v 1.130 by moving
> gnu/usr.bin/texinfo before gnu/usr.bin/cc:
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/Makefile.inc1?r1=1.129&r2=1.130

I just did a cvsup and make world. My current src seems to have this
fix. Hope your right.

-piet

> 
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------cc -O -pipe -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\"  -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/../../../../contrib/texinfo -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/../../../../contrib/texinfo/lib   -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/../../../../contrib/texinfo/makeinfo/toc.c
> > cc -O -pipe -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\"  -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/../../../../contrib/texinfo -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/../../../../contrib/texinfo/lib   -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include  -o makeinfo cmds.o defun.o files.o footnote.o html.o index.o insertion.o lang.o macro.o makeinfo.o multi.o node.o sectioning.o toc.o  /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo/../libtxi/libtxi.a
> > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot open crt1.o: No such file or directory
> > *** Error code 1
> > 
> > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo.
> > *** Error code 1
> > 
> > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo.
> > *** Error code 1
> > 
> > Stop in /usr/src.
> > *** Error code 1
> > 
> > Stop in /usr/src.
> > *** Error code 1
> > 
> > Stop in /usr/src.
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> -- 
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Hello,

I am a newbie to UNIX ( approx 1.5 months ) and need some help.

I have 5 Unix machines ( 1 new backup , 4 servers ) and I would now like to
backup the necessary information on the servers.

I was thinking that I could tar the info on the servers and then scp it to the
backup server at a specified time using the cron daemon. And then for the
backup server to well of cousre back it up using cron as well.

The problem comes in when I scp it asks for a password.
I am not sure how to use the cron to send a password ( not safe either if
someone gets to see the cron file )

The backup server needs to accept password-less scp from my 4 servers only, and
any other admin machines etc, as normal with passwords.

Do you think that this is the right way to go about it?
Do you have any other ideas?

Many thanks for your time,

Mark
Trainee UNIX ADMINISTRATOR
UNIVERSITY OF THE WESTERN CAPE


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mark writes:

> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am a newbie to UNIX ( approx 1.5 months ) and need some help.
> 
> I have 5 Unix machines ( 1 new backup , 4 servers ) and I would now like to
> backup the necessary information on the servers.
> 
> I was thinking that I could tar the info on the servers and then scp it to the
> backup server at a specified time using the cron daemon. And then for the
> backup server to well of cousre back it up using cron as well.
> 
> The problem comes in when I scp it asks for a password.
> I am not sure how to use the cron to send a password ( not safe either if
> someone gets to see the cron file )
> 
> The backup server needs to accept password-less scp from my 4 servers only, and
> any other admin machines etc, as normal with passwords.
> 
> Do you think that this is the right way to go about it?
> Do you have any other ideas?
> 
> Many thanks for your time,
> 
> Mark
> Trainee UNIX ADMINISTRATOR
> UNIVERSITY OF THE WESTERN CAPE
> 
> 
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Hi

You might want to look at Amanda, which is in the ports.

Adrian Urquhart
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> The problem comes in when I scp it asks for a password.
> I am not sure how to use the cron to send a password ( not safe either if
> someone gets to see the cron file )

ssh allows you to use certificates to gain access to servers, you dont need
passwords.

on the backup server run ssh-keygen as the user that will do the scp's, look
in that user home directory for a file called .ssh/identity.pub place this
file in the remote machine - under the user dir you are scp into -
~/.ssh/authorized_key  make sure the ~/.ssh and the file authorized_keys are
mode 700 for the directory and 600 for the file.

if all goes well, you should be able to ssh/scp from the backup server to your
other machines without being asked a password.

see the man pages.

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My OS is in a state of flux!  I want a Unix-like OS and would like to know
the differences between FreeBSD and Linux, as well as compatability issues.
I realize that there's probably alot (and probably already written) so if
you tell me where to go, that's fine.  On the other hand, anything you 
wish to add yourself is also welcome.
Thank you for your time.

Jeff
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On Tue, Jan 18, 2000 at 07:16:35AM -0500, Jeff Robert Hammel wrote:
> My OS is in a state of flux!  I want a Unix-like OS and would like to know
> the differences between FreeBSD and Linux, as well as compatability issues.
> I realize that there's probably alot (and probably already written) so if
> you tell me where to go, that's fine.  On the other hand, anything you 
> wish to add yourself is also welcome.
> Thank you for your time.

As you ask to THIS list, the answer is obvious. FreeBSD is best ;-)

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David;
I may be having a simular problem. What I see looks almost liker barcode
where text should be. I have requested help dfrom those on this list but am
still
waiting. please refer to the following --

I Installed the XFree86 3.3.6 software in hopes of using my ATI Rage
128.
The previous release would not work at all for this card.

The good news is that the server starts and initially appears to work.
However when I startx to KDE 1.1.1 or Windowmaker any windows ie. term,
netscape, config etc. contain bar code instead of text also when windows
are moved the section at the top flickers when moving over another
window. Sometimes text does show but is destroyed upon window movement.

Note -- The XFree86 3.3.6 software and KDE 1.1.1 or Windowmaker work
fine with my old Diamond Stealth 64 VRAM (S3).

If it looks lke your problem is like mine perhaps we can pool our resources.

Any way the work around for me was to change Graphics Cards.

Kevin Voyce.


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> hello,
> I'm a new freebsd user and i'm having a problem with windowmanager, i get
> some blacksquares instead of text in the menus, and almost everywhere.
>
> David Vallee
> cellule@videotron.ca
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On Monday, 17 January 2000 at 17:59:50 -0700, Wes Peters wrote:
> Satyajit Das wrote:
>>
>> hello
>>
>> I'm from bangladesh.
>> I install FBSD 3.3 .
>> FBSD shows 12 hours advanced from current time and also date.
>> when i install i select Bangladesh .
>> please inform how can i fix my current time and date.
>
> I have forwarded your question and directed replies to the FreeBSD-questions
> mailing list, as this is the appropriate place to find answers for this kind
> of question.
>
> Now, to attempt to answer it: when you were installing, do you remember the
> install program asking you if your CMOS clock is set to local time or GMT
> time?  I suspect you answered that question wrong.  For more information,
> see "man adjkerntz".
>
> Basically, if your BIOS/CMOS clock is set to the local time, you need to
> create a file called /etc/wall_cmos_clock.  You can do this by typing (as
> root):
>
> 	touch /etc/wall_cmos_clock
>
> If your BIOS/CMOS clock is set to GMT, remove the /etc/wall_cmos_clock file
> so your computer will know the clock is on GMT at startup.
>
> Lastly, be sure your CMOS clock, which is accessible from the BIOS setup
> screens, is correct.

The issue of adjkerntz doesn't change the relationship between UTC and
local time (which appears to be called BDT).  It works fine for me
here:

  $ date
  Tue Jan 18 17:13:13 IST 2000
  $ TZ=Asia/Dacca date
  Tue Jan 18 17:43:22 BDT 2000

Since I'm in India, that seems about right.

To set your time zone, take a look at the files in the subdirectories
of /usr/share/zoneinfo:

  $ ls -RFC /usr/share/zoneinfo/
  Africa/         Atlantic/       EST             GMT             MST7MDT         posixrules
  America/        Australia/      EST5EDT         HST             PST8PDT         zone.tab
  Antarctica/     CET             Etc/            Indian/         Pacific/
  Arctic/         CST6CDT         Europe/         MET             SystemV/
  Asia/           EET             Factory         MST             WET
  ...
  /usr/share/zoneinfo/Asia:
  Aden            Bishkek         Irkutsk         Kuching         Rangoon         Tokyo
  Almaty          Brunei          Istanbul        Kuwait          Riyadh          Ujung_Pandang
  Amman           Calcutta        Jakarta         Macao           Saigon          Ulan_Bator
  Anadyr          Chungking       Jayapura        Magadan         Samarkand       Urumqi
  Aqtau           Colombo         Jerusalem       Manila          Seoul           Vientiane
  Aqtobe          Dacca           Kabul           Muscat          Shanghai        Vladivostok
  Ashkhabad       Damascus        Kamchatka       Nicosia         Singapore       Yakutsk
  Baghdad         Dubai           Karachi         Novosibirsk     Taipei          Yekaterinburg
  Bahrain         Dushanbe        Kashgar         Omsk            Tashkent        Yerevan
  Baku            Gaza            Katmandu        Phnom_Penh      Tbilisi
  Bangkok         Harbin          Krasnoyarsk     Pyongyang       Tehran
  Beirut          Hong_Kong       Kuala_Lumpur    Qatar           Thimbu

Choose one that looks likely (Dacca in your case) and copy it to
/etc/localtime:

  # cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Asia/Dacca /etc/localtime

Greg
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On Monday, 17 January 2000 at 14:17:59 +0100, rene@xs4all.nl wrote:
> Hija Olaf,
>
> Sunday, January 16, 2000, 23:53:48, you seem to have written:
>> On Sun 16 Jan 2000 at 20:54:03 +0100, rene@xs4all.nl wrote:
>>
>> Since it looks like the only thing that you really do by hand is:
>>
>>> bash-2.02# mount /dev/vinum/myvol /mnt/large
>>
>> putting it in /etc/fstab should be enough. Something like
>>
>> # filesys     mount point       type    access                  dump    fsck
>> # location                              + opts                  freq    pass
>>
>> /dev/vinum/myvol /mnt/large     ffs     rw                      1       2
>>
>> should do it. Unless maybe this tries to mount it too early in the boot
>> sequence. In that case, make it
>>
>> /dev/vinum/myvol /mnt/large     ffs     rw,noauto               1       2
>>
>> so that the initial mount -a will not try to mount it yet, and put the
>> following in /etc/rc.local:
>>
>> mount /mnt/large
>>
>> -Olaf (none of this is vinum-sprecific, by te way).
>
> Thanx for your reply. However, it didn't quite fix it; (after booting)
>
> bash-2.02# mount /mnt/large
> mount: exec mount_ffs not found in /sbin, /usr/sbin: No such file or directory
>
> if I change the type field in /etc/fstab to 'ufs' instead of 'ffs', I
> get a filesystemcheck error; /dev/vinum/rmyvol: device not configured
>
> this is probably coz at that time, vinum hasn't started yet.

Correct.  You should set start_vinum in your rc.conf.

> for completeness, the line from fstab:
>
> /dev/vinum/myvol        /mnt/large      ufs     rw,noauto       1       2

Was that a complete statement?

Greg
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Hi all.

Could anyone tell me how to write a specific value to a parallel port?
IIRC, I could do this with outb() on a Linux system.  I'm using this
to control relays to switch lights etc.

thanks

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On 01/17/2000 7:04:01 PM, "Crist J. Clark" wrote:

>On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 01:51:38PM -0700, Duke Normandin wrote:
>> On 01/17/2000 6:03:50 AM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>> 
>> >On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 06:24:04PM -0700, Duke Normandin wrote:
>> >>
>> >> What criterion (ia) are used for determining the use of ipfw or natd
>> >> in creating a firewall? TIA..
>> >
>> >You can use both on the same `firewall'.
>> >
>> >They are two different programs, with a different purpose each.
>> >
>> 
>> I gathered as much now....thanks! I'm now curious to read the answer to the post 
with 
>> the subject line, "ipf/ipnat vs ipfw/natd", as well as determining whether or not 
>> natd's `divert' capabality has (can have) anyhting to do with firewalling.
>
>ipfw(8) has "divert" capability. You must have ipfw enabled and divert
>rules in place in order to use natd(8).
>-- 
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-duke

Thanks for clearing up the murky waters a bit! For what it's worth to all the other 
newbies on this list, I found what I think are two great tutorials on Networking 
issues:

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq6.html  <--- Network Configuration
http://www.3com.com/nsc/501302.html   <--- IP Addressing

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We have installed the freeBSD 3.2 in our server and it is running the =
procedure named as its DNS.  We can't make the appropriate settings for =
the domains and the settings for each one of the domain that we support. =
(e.g. for the domain.com     www in address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, mail in =
address yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy e.t.c.)

Thanks in advance whoever takes the time to answer my question.....!!!!!
Sotiris

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We have installed the freeBSD 3.2 in =
our server=20
and it is running the procedure named as its DNS.  We can't make =
the=20
appropriate settings for the domains and the settings for each one of =
the domain=20
that we support. (e.g. for the domain.com     www in =
address=20
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time to=20
answer my question.....!!!!!


Sotiris


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Hello,

My xdm returns to xdm after I log on, username and password are correct.
I have .xsession in my home directory starting a windowsmanager (tried `exec
startkde` and `startkde` without quotes ofcourse)
.xsession is executable. I can run startx successfully.
Running FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE  with XFree86 Version 3.3.5
What could be the problem?
Also, what is a good source for finding solutions to these small problems,
only few are mentioned at the FreeBSD FAQ webpage.
Thanks,


 _Alain

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On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, R Joseph Wright wrote:

>> and toys.  Go to www.themes.org, and DL themes till your heart's
>> content!  They work well, and i have found all my favorites there,
>> including the Gotham theme for KDE that also is available for WM.
>
>I went there and they have an amazing number of themes for any window
>manager.  Now I have another problem.  My kde doesn't seem to have a
>theme manager!  In fact, when I went to the kde control center, it
>opened up the window, but inside it was empty.  I also went to the main
>menu, settings, desktop, but no themes.  Kdebase is supposed to contain
>the theme manager.  What's going wrong here? 

Just to be sure, do you have KDE 1.2 or so?  I know 1.1 theme support
was almost useless.  That's the default that came with my 3.2 CD.  But
the newest version (1.2?) has integrated theme support.  I guess
mandrake just forced 1.1 to work well with themes.

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Hi,

Your .xsession needs to be executable!  I've done this loads of times.
Just log in on a terminal / console and do a:

$ chmod +x .xsession

Then it should work.

Hope this helps.  If not.  Forward me your .xsession

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heres the scenario

p 120, 32 megs ram, 600mb, 8 gig hhd's dfe530-tx running freebsd 3.2
release

intel inbuisness 8 port 10/100 switch

generic 8 port hub

various windows / unix clients

-----

ok 

the server sends out files via nfs, smb and ftp and is plugged into the
switch
the hub is connected to the switch and most clients are connected to the
hub

data transfer between the freebsd server and clients is incredibly slow
due to incredible amounts of collisions. transfer from other servers on
the same switch is not affected by the same problem.

i have tried 2 other network cards with the same results, a 3c509btx and
a amd pcinet (lnc)

both half-duplex and full-duplex have the same results, the kernel has
packet filtering on and runs dhcpd


help!

Dean


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Did you make sure to enable ALL the kernel options?  The parallel port
stuff as well?  Also, make sure you make all the necessary
devices.  Is this a laptop?

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On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Brett Taylor wrote:

>> One of the responders to your question said 'make clean' removes the
>> old source.  I believe that this is incorrect.  It removes the old
>> OBJECT code, which of course is generated when the source is compiled.  
>> When a port is updated, at least three things must happen for you to
>> be able to use the new version.
>
>This is vague at best - make clean, in a port, removes everything in the
>work directory and the work directory itself.  It does not touch anything
>in /usr/ports/distfiles.

What was vague here, the original post or my explanation?

>> I think one potential area of confusion is this:  Again, IF I
>> UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY (and i think i do ;-) 'make deinstall' calls
>> pkg_delete, but if the makefile has been changed by a recent cvsup,
>> there is always the possibility this may not work correctly, although
>> it SHOULD.  I generally use pkg_delete just to be safe.
>
>Nope - as noted above - make deinstall calls pkg_delete which reads off
>its OWN original packing list, not what's in
>/usr/ports/some_dir/some_port/pkg/PLIST.  

What was my mistake here?  Referring to the makefile rather than the
packing list as the source for the action taken?

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FreeBSD 3.4 Release Notes:

"If you do not have access to the Internet and electronic mail is your
 only recourse, then you may still fetch the files by sending mail to
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 to get more information on how to fetch files using this mechanism."

My mail-server replys
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If ftpmail@ftpmail.vix.com does not work, how can I fetch files
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Hi Jonathon,

On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

> Brett wrote:
> >Nope - as noted above - make deinstall calls pkg_delete which reads off
> >its OWN original packing list, not what's in
> >/usr/ports/some_dir/some_port/pkg/PLIST.  
> 
> What was my mistake here?  Referring to the makefile rather than the
> packing list as the source for the action taken?

No mistake on your part - I didn't read bsd.port.mk (or let it sink
through my head enough) - a make deinstall looks for ${PKGNAME} which it
grabs from the port Makefile so it will try to deinstall the old version
(using pkg_delete).

Brett
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Dear Sir or Madam,
	I am currently trying to set up an internet gateway for my satellite
internet connection.  I have been trying to make this work for the past 5
days to no avail.
	I am wondering if it is possible for you to forward me a "default" or
"generic" configuration for a NATD internet gateway.
I would need rc.conf, rc.firewall, and any other file modifications that
would be absolutely necessary.  No firewall is needed at this time, I can
add that in later.
	I have a P1 166MHz running FreeBSD 3.2Stable, with 2 Network cards (a DLink
10BaseT as ed1, and a 3Com Etherlink III as ep0), the internet connection
can be connected to either card and requires little or no configuration.
	I know its a stretch, but the man hours spent trying to make this work are
beginning to add up.

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Hello,

I have one disk which I use for my windows swapfile and one disk which I
use for my FreeBSD swap. I would like to use one disk for both swaps.
Is it possible to make an image (with dd) of the fat and root directory of
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Wil windows eat this and can FreeBSD work this way? Or do I have to do a
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Where do I have to put the dd command to write the image back in the
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Or can I do this simpler?

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On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, David Kelly wrote:

>CDROM's, shirts, jackets, stickers, stuffed daemon plushies, etc., which
>pay for hosting FreeBSD on the 'net, for much of the development
>hardware, and for some of the salaries of those who work full time on
>FreeBSD.

So walnut creek actually *pays* some of the programming staff?

-=> jm <=-

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> On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, David Kelly wrote:
> 
> >CDROM's, shirts, jackets, stickers, stuffed daemon plushies, etc., which
> >pay for hosting FreeBSD on the 'net, for much of the development
> >hardware, and for some of the salaries of those who work full time on
> >FreeBSD.
> 
> So walnut creek actually *pays* some of the programming staff?
> 

Yep.  Nice work, if you can get it.

FreeBSD is WC's biggest-selling product.  It makes sense for them to
support it.

I believe (thin ice hear) they also run the FreeBSD consulting &
support services available at freebsdmall.com.

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On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Michael Lucas wrote:
>FreeBSD is WC's biggest-selling product.  It makes sense for them to
>support it.

That many people buy it?  I thought most get it for free... -=> jm <=-

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> 
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Michael Lucas wrote:
> >FreeBSD is WC's biggest-selling product.  It makes sense for them to
> >support it.
> 
> That many people buy it?  I thought most get it for free... -=> jm <=-

Those of us behind 14.4 connections are really fond of the CD release.

No, my modem is 56k... my phone line is 14.4.

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You can either use expect to pass the password, use key's to authenticate
or use dump to dump the things to a file or device on the remote machine. 


Keith

On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, mark wrote:

> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am a newbie to UNIX ( approx 1.5 months ) and need some help.
> 
> I have 5 Unix machines ( 1 new backup , 4 servers ) and I would now like to
> backup the necessary information on the servers.
> 
> I was thinking that I could tar the info on the servers and then scp it to the
> backup server at a specified time using the cron daemon. And then for the
> backup server to well of cousre back it up using cron as well.
> 
> The problem comes in when I scp it asks for a password.
> I am not sure how to use the cron to send a password ( not safe either if
> someone gets to see the cron file )
> 
> The backup server needs to accept password-less scp from my 4 servers only, and
> any other admin machines etc, as normal with passwords.
> 
> Do you think that this is the right way to go about it?
> Do you have any other ideas?
> 
> Many thanks for your time,
> 
> Mark
> Trainee UNIX ADMINISTRATOR
> UNIVERSITY OF THE WESTERN CAPE
> 
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Michael Lucas wrote:
>Those of us behind 14.4 connections are really fond of the CD release.
>
>No, my modem is 56k... my phone line is 14.4.

True.. it's handy to have the CD for system fixes, quick installation
of packages, etc.  I think i'll buy 4.0 (4.1?) when it comes
out.  Also, i'm very close to buying Applixware Office.

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Sorry,

My bad, he was right, for some reason I only made it executable for go and
not for the user.
chmod u+x .xsession solved my problem
Sorry, my mistake.

Alain


----- Original Message -----
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> Chris.Smith@raytheon.co.uk writes:
>
> > Your .xsession needs to be executable!
>
> He specifically said:
>
> > .xsession is executable. I can run startx successfully.
>
> So that's not it.
>
> Since startx uses .xinitrc instead of .xsession, there may be some
> difference there.  In my opinion, there are three things he should
> check:
>  1) .xsession-errors : the problem may be spelled out in there
>  2) debugging .xsession : put debugging statements (I like to use
>                           "touch" at various checkpoints to see that
>   the script is actually running to various
>   points)
>  3) link .xsession to .xinitrc, since that's known to work, and see
>            what happens
>
> If I had to guess, I would say that he backgrounds all the commands in
> the .xsession.  This will produce the symptoms he describes, because
> it lets .xsession run to completion before he gets a chance to do
> anything.  When .xsession runs to completion, it resets the X server,
> which will end the xdm session.  So the key is to end the script with
> a command that *isn't* backgrounded; the window manager is a
> convenient item for this.  [Just remove the '&' from the end of the
> last line.]
>
> Be well.
>         Lowell
>         [sitting about a quarter mile from Raytheon's corporate
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Hi,

On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Alain G. Fabry wrote:

> My xdm returns to xdm after I log on, username and password are
> correct. I have .xsession in my home directory starting a
> windowsmanager (tried `exec startkde` and `startkde` without quotes
> ofcourse) .xsession is executable. I can run startx successfully.

What does .xsession-errors say?  What does your .xsession look like?

I initially would have said your .xsession wasn't executable, but you said
it was.  Hard to guess now wo/ some info from .xsession-errors.

Brett
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Hija Greg,

Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 12:05:30, you seem to have written:
GL> On Monday, 17 January 2000 at 14:17:59 +0100, rene@xs4all.nl wrote:
>> Hija Olaf,
>>
>> Sunday, January 16, 2000, 23:53:48, you seem to have written:
>>> On Sun 16 Jan 2000 at 20:54:03 +0100, rene@xs4all.nl wrote:
>>>
>>> Since it looks like the only thing that you really do by hand is:
>>>
>>>> bash-2.02# mount /dev/vinum/myvol /mnt/large
>>>
>>> putting it in /etc/fstab should be enough. Something like
>>>
>>> # filesys     mount point       type    access                  dump    fsck
>>> # location                              + opts                  freq    pass
>>>
>>> /dev/vinum/myvol /mnt/large     ffs     rw                      1       2
>>>
>>> should do it. Unless maybe this tries to mount it too early in the boot
>>> sequence. In that case, make it
>>>
>>> /dev/vinum/myvol /mnt/large     ffs     rw,noauto               1       2
>>>
>>> so that the initial mount -a will not try to mount it yet, and put the
>>> following in /etc/rc.local:
>>>
>>> mount /mnt/large
>>>
>>> -Olaf (none of this is vinum-sprecific, by te way).
>>
>> Thanx for your reply. However, it didn't quite fix it; (after booting)
>>
>> bash-2.02# mount /mnt/large
>> mount: exec mount_ffs not found in /sbin, /usr/sbin: No such file or directory
>>
>> if I change the type field in /etc/fstab to 'ufs' instead of 'ffs', I
>> get a filesystemcheck error; /dev/vinum/rmyvol: device not configured
>>
>> this is probably coz at that time, vinum hasn't started yet.

GL> Correct.  You should set start_vinum in your rc.conf.

messenger:/usr/home/rene # cat /etc/rc.conf
# This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf
# please make all changes to this file.

# -- sysinstall generated deltas -- #
gateway_enable="YES"
nfs_server_enable="YES"
network_interfaces="xl0 lo0"
ifconfig_xl0="inet 194.109.23.212 netmask 255.255.255.240"
defaultrouter="194.109.23.209"
hostname="messenger"
domainname="outerheaven.net"
inetd_enable="NO"
portmap_enable="NO"
nfs_client_enable="NO"
rpc_statd_enable="NO"
syslogd_flags="-s"
start_vinum="YES"


>> for completeness, the line from fstab:
>>
>> /dev/vinum/myvol        /mnt/large      ufs     rw,noauto       1       2

GL> Was that a complete statement?

I don't quite understand your question...



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Jeremy,

there really isn't a default or generic configuration as each system is
different at the very least you would have to edit most files and change the
interface (ed1 or ep0) names.  The best (and one of the simplest) set of
directions on setting up ipfw/natd (yes you must use ipfw in order to use
natd) is on the FreeBSD Diary http://www.freebsddiary.org/freebsd/ipfw.htm

this is page describes exactly what you are looking for.

burke


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 9:36 AM
Subject: internet gateway setup using NATD


> Dear Sir or Madam,
> I am currently trying to set up an internet gateway for my satellite
> internet connection.  I have been trying to make this work for the past 5
> days to no avail.
> I am wondering if it is possible for you to forward me a "default" or
> "generic" configuration for a NATD internet gateway.
> I would need rc.conf, rc.firewall, and any other file modifications that
> would be absolutely necessary.  No firewall is needed at this time, I can
> add that in later.
> I have a P1 166MHz running FreeBSD 3.2Stable, with 2 Network cards (a
DLink
> 10BaseT as ed1, and a 3Com Etherlink III as ep0), the internet connection
> can be connected to either card and requires little or no configuration.
> I know its a stretch, but the man hours spent trying to make this work are
> beginning to add up.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeremy Briggs




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I got it off the net at 28.8, but I bought "The Complete FreeBSD". Also a
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Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Michael Lucas wrote:

>FreeBSD is WC's biggest-selling product.  It makes sense for
them to

>support it.

That many people buy it?  I thought most get it for free... -=>
jm <=




I got it off the net at 28.8, but I bought "The Complete FreeBSD".
Also a shirt. Durned thing's on back-order though...

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We ended up running the old perl binary to avoid re-installing all our
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running to a problem with this. I assume part of the installation
process thinks I'm using an elf system, and the other part thinks I'm
using the a.out system. 
  My question then is, can I get this one module to link correctly,
without reinstalling every module? and what tricks to I need to this? 
	I'm guessing that perhaps I can explicting call the new perl binary to
create the Makefiles and that will work
(eg: /usr/bin/perl5 Makefile.PL rather than perl Makefile.PL)

Here's the sort of error I get when running "make test" with DBD::Pg .93
using the old perl binary:
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module DBD::Pg: bad magic numb
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Hi list;
I setup majordomo yesterdays and did everything according to the docs
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I use a quickcam and cqcam.. Run it in cron to snap a picture ever -n-
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Hello,

I'm trying to install 3.3-R on my Thinkpad 365XD. The install goes quite
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>I setup majordomo yesterdays and did everything according to the docs
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>
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So is your problem the one stated in the Subject: header, that your
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Tue Jan 18  9:50:29 2000
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> I recall seeing crt1.0 getting lost during fsck after a crash.
> Now I'm unable to 'make world'. The linker can't find crt0

The wrong compiler was being used to build texinfo.  Rather than the host
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I just got back from holidays and have over 4000 emails to worry about. 
I will be looking into this one in the next couple of days.

Darren Wiebe
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Eduardo Huertas wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have FreeBSD 3.2 installed and I got the port for StarOffice 5.1 from the
> net but it seems is designed only for the English version.
> 
> I have the SUN´s CD and when I do the MAKE command everything seems ok but
> when I do the MAKE install. It reports the following problem:
> 
> /usr/compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig: warning can't open
> /usr/ports/editors/staroffice5/work/tmp/sv001.tmp (no such file or
> directory), skipping.
> 
> I do the setup and when it finishes writes another errors:
> 100755: not found
> *** error code 1
> stop.
> 
> Then I try to MAKE post-install and again:
> 100755: not found
> 
> What do I must do to install the Spanish version of StarOffice 5.1a?
> 
> Thank you very much.
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> Eduardo
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 1/18/00, 4:17:53 PM, Brett Taylor <brett@peloton.runet.edu> wrote
regarding Re: can't make certain ports:


> Hi Jonathon,

> On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

> > Brett wrote:
> > >Nope - as noted above - make deinstall calls pkg_delete which reads=

off
> > >its OWN original packing list, not what's in
> > >/usr/ports/some_dir/some_port/pkg/PLIST.
> >
> > What was my mistake here?  Referring to the makefile rather than the=

> > packing list as the source for the action taken?

> No mistake on your part - I didn't read bsd.port.mk (or let it sink
> through my head enough) - a make deinstall looks for ${PKGNAME} which
it
> grabs from the port Makefile so it will try to deinstall the old
version
> (using pkg_delete).

> Brett
> *****************************************************
> Dr. Brett Taylor         brett@peloton.runet.edu    *
> Dept of Chem and Physics                          *
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> Dept. of Mathematics and Statistics               *
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Dear Brett Taylor and Jonathon McKitrick,

just to split hairs:

make deinstall ~ pkg_delete -f port_package(s)_listed_in_the_PLIST

where " ~ " reads "equivalent to".

In a freshly updated port, the package(s) in question is(are) the=20
*new*
package(s) - not yet made.

If all this is correct, it should (?) go into the docs. AFAIR, I have=20
not
found this little piece of information (yet).

But I have an awful lot to read, so I might be wrong.=20
I know I do NOT know (Socrates) :-))

Perhaps it is also in Grog's Guide 3rd edition ?
I haven't found this book in Sicily yet.=20

Best regards,
Salvo
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Burke,

I was just about to start delving into the mans to do this, when I saw your
response to this mail. I've followed the instructions pretty much by the
book, and I seem to be having a couple of problems. When I try pinging from
my Windows box (local ip) through my BSD box (setup as my gateway) I get
something like this...

Z:\blondie>ping 196.31.83.225

Pinging 196.31.83.225 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.62.1: Destination host unreachable.
Reply from 192.168.62.1: Destination host unreachable.

192.168.62.1 being my FreeBSD box.

I was reading another howto (http://members.tripod.com/vas99/natd.html)
earlier and trying that route, but got absolutely no luck at all. Didn't
even get Destination host unreachable, just timeouts all the time and no
requests coming through on netstat (don't know if icmps do appear there). I
don't know wether any of the stuff I did from that howto would be affecting
whats going on at the moment?

Any ideas?

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: Re: internet gateway setup using NATD


Jeremy,

there really isn't a default or generic configuration as each system is
different at the very least you would have to edit most files and change the
interface (ed1 or ep0) names.  The best (and one of the simplest) set of
directions on setting up ipfw/natd (yes you must use ipfw in order to use
natd) is on the FreeBSD Diary http://www.freebsddiary.org/freebsd/ipfw.htm

this is page describes exactly what you are looking for.

burke


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy" <slicetech@xsspeed.net>
To: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 9:36 AM
Subject: internet gateway setup using NATD


> Dear Sir or Madam,
> I am currently trying to set up an internet gateway for my satellite
> internet connection.  I have been trying to make this work for the past 5
> days to no avail.
> I am wondering if it is possible for you to forward me a "default" or
> "generic" configuration for a NATD internet gateway.
> I would need rc.conf, rc.firewall, and any other file modifications that
> would be absolutely necessary.  No firewall is needed at this time, I can
> add that in later.
> I have a P1 166MHz running FreeBSD 3.2Stable, with 2 Network cards (a
DLink
> 10BaseT as ed1, and a 3Com Etherlink III as ep0), the internet connection
> can be connected to either card and requires little or no configuration.
> I know its a stretch, but the man hours spent trying to make this work are
> beginning to add up.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeremy Briggs




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Burke,




I was just about to start delving into the mans to do =
this, when I saw your response to this mail. I've followed the =
instructions pretty much by the book, and I seem to be having a couple =
of problems. When I try pinging from my Windows box (local ip) through =
my BSD box (setup as my gateway) I get something like =
this...



Z:\blondie>ping 196.31.83.225




Pinging 196.31.83.225 with 32 bytes of data:




Reply from 192.168.62.1: Destination host =
unreachable.

Reply from 192.168.62.1: Destination host =
unreachable.




192.168.62.1 being my FreeBSD box.




I was reading another howto (http://members.tripod.com/vas99/natd.html) =
earlier and trying that route, but got absolutely no luck at all. =
Didn't even get Destination host unreachable, just timeouts all the =
time and no requests coming through on netstat (don't know if icmps do =
appear there). I don't know wether any of the stuff I did from that =
howto would be affecting whats going on at the moment?



Any ideas?




Cheers




Mike






-----Original Message-----

From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG

[mailto:owner-freebsd=
-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Burke Gallagher

Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 7:10 PM

To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Cc: slicetech@earthlink.net

Subject: Re: internet gateway setup using =
NATD






Jeremy,




there really isn't a default or generic configuration =
as each system is

different at the very least you would have to edit =
most files and change the

interface (ed1 or ep0) names.  The best (and =
one of the simplest) set of

directions on setting up ipfw/natd (yes you must use =
ipfw in order to use

natd) is on the FreeBSD Diary http://www.freebsddiary.org/freebsd/ipfw.htm




this is page describes exactly what you are looking =
for.




burke






----- Original Message -----

From: "Jeremy" =
<slicetech@xsspeed.net>

To: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>

Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 9:36 AM

Subject: internet gateway setup using NATD






> Dear Sir or Madam,

> I am currently trying to set up an internet =
gateway for my satellite

> internet connection.  I have been trying =
to make this work for the past 5

> days to no avail.

> I am wondering if it is possible for you to =
forward me a "default" or

> "generic" configuration for a NATD =
internet gateway.

> I would need rc.conf, rc.firewall, and any =
other file modifications that

> would be absolutely necessary.  No =
firewall is needed at this time, I can

> add that in later.

> I have a P1 166MHz running FreeBSD 3.2Stable, =
with 2 Network cards (a

DLink

> 10BaseT as ed1, and a 3Com Etherlink III as =
ep0), the internet connection

> can be connected to either card and requires =
little or no configuration.

> I know its a stretch, but the man hours spent =
trying to make this work are

> beginning to add up.

>

> Thanks,

> Jeremy Briggs










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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 1/18/00, 4:38:42 PM, Jonathon McKitrick=20

wrote regarding Re: About free bsd :


> On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, David Kelly wrote:

> >CDROM's, shirts, jackets, stickers, stuffed daemon plushies, etc.,
which
> >pay for hosting FreeBSD on the 'net, for much of the development
> >hardware, and for some of the salaries of those who work full time on=

> >FreeBSD.

> So walnut creek actually *pays* some of the programming staff?

> -=3D> jm <=3D-

> "Doors to the pleasures of heaven or hell, and i didn't care
> which...."



Dear Jonathon McKitrick,

just to play the Daemon's advocate:

Have you ever calculated the cost of *everything* that you can do with
FreeBSD (e.g. in terms of other commercial Unices or M$uxware) ?

You might begin by listing StarOffice ($0) or Applixware (~ $100) on
the left, and M$Office on the right.

And do NOT forget the *server* side of the comparison ...

When you are finished with your arithmetic, please let me know.

Best regards,
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Salvo Bartolotta wrote:
>just to play the Daemon's advocate:
>
>Have you ever calculated the cost of *everything* that you can do with
>FreeBSD (e.g. in terms of other commercial Unices or M$uxware) ?
>
>You might begin by listing StarOffice ($0) or Applixware (~ $100) on
>the left, and M$Office on the right.
>
>And do NOT forget the *server* side of the comparison ...
>
>When you are finished with your arithmetic, please let me know.

Well i'm not quite sure how you took my comment, but i am an avid
FreeBSD fan.  I just thought it was *all* volunteers.  I didn't
realize there was a group of paid programmers.  Believe me, you are
preaching to the choir.  I love BSD.

-=> jm <=-

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I keep getting these messages in the security check and daily run output
What should I do to correct it?
=20
kaysa.modelo.int login failures:
Jan  5 07:59:16 kaysa login: 2 LOGIN FAILURES FROM kaysa
Jan  5 07:59:16 kaysa login: 2 LOGIN FAILURES FROM kaysa, mgamez
Jan  5 08:13:24 kaysa login: 1 LOGIN FAILURE ON ttyv0
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I keep getting these messages in the security =
check and=20
daily run output


What should I do to correct it?


 


kaysa.modelo.int login failures:
Jan  =
5=20
07:59:16 kaysa login: 2 LOGIN FAILURES FROM kaysa
Jan  5 =
07:59:16 kaysa=20
login: 2 LOGIN FAILURES FROM kaysa, mgamez
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login:=20
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At 10:50 AM 1/18/00 +0100, Gary Jennejohn wrote:
>Shawn Ramsey writes:
> >AHow much memory do you have?  How much swap space you have available?
> >
> >
> >Plenty of both... 198MB of RAM and about 320MB of swap space.
> >
>
>This message usually means that queued packets are not going out the
>interface. If you ``ifconfig down'' followed by ``ifconfig up'' the
>interface the queued packets will be discarded - easier than doing a
>reboot.
>
>IMHO this indicates that you have a problem with your hardware (NIC, hub,
>switch, what have you).
>
>This shows up alot with ISDN, that's why I know about it.

Ok... will try the easiest first. Will replace the primary NIC and cable 
and see what happens. If it was a bad switch, wouldn't other systems exist 
the same problem? This server is really the only really loaded server on 
the network though, so if it is traffic dependant, maybe not. 


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* Charles Plater  [000118 06:30] wrote:
> I'm having some problems with shared libraries, and I can't seem to figure
> it out.
> 
> ----- first example -----
> rattlehead.accs.wayne.edu{cplater}95: netscape
> ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libXt.so.6.0"
> rattlehead.accs.wayne.edu{cplater}96: locate libXt.so.6.0
> /usr/X11R6/lib/aout/libXt.so.6.0
> /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6.0
> /usr/compat/linux/usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libXt.so.6.0
> ----- end first example -----
> ----- second example -----
> rattlehead.accs.wayne.edu{cplater}97: emacs
> /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libXaw.so.6" not found
> rattlehead.accs.wayne.edu{cplater}98: locate libXaw.so.6
> /usr/X11R6/lib/aout/libXaw.so.6.1
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.6
> /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.6
> /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.6.1
> /usr/compat/linux/usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libXaw.so.6
> /usr/compat/linux/usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libXaw.so.6.1
> ----- end second example -----

For some reason I think your system is not ldconfig'ing the X dirs,
try adding this to /etc/rc.conf

ldconfig_paths="$ldconfig_paths /usr/X11R6/lib"
ldconfig_paths_aout="$ldconfig_paths_aout /usr/X11R6/lib/aout"

-Alfred


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	If running firewall and ppp with -nat option, when does
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On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 07:40:17PM -0500, James Gill wrote:
> 
> I can start apache with no problems by running
> /usr/local/sbin/apache -f /path/to/my/apache.conf
> by hand or in rc.local
> 
> but since the newest fad is to utilize this rc.d business, i find there is
> already an apache.sh there:
> #!/bin/sh
> [ -d /usr/local/pgsql/lib ] && /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/pgsql/lib
> [ -x /usr/local/sbin/apachectl ] && /usr/local/sbin/apachectl start
> # > /dev/null && echo -n ' apache'
> 
> Now I can't figure out how to pass a -f paramater to apachectl to tell the
> little bugger which .conf file to readin.
> 
> What is suggested here?  edit apache.sh to start '/usr/local/sbin/apache
> -f...' or skip the whole .../rc.d/apache.sh idea altogether?

You can edit the script to suit your needs.  The scripts in the
/usr/local/etc/rc.d directory are there for you to customize at will.

> What is that /usr/local/pgsql/lib starting up with it?  I am assuming
> it is some part of apache/php3 that wants (needs?) to wake up with
> apache?

If you have apache compiled with php3, and php3 with postgresql support
(PostgreSQL is one of the databases supported by php3), you might find
it annoying to have many scripts, say postgresql.sh, php3.sh and
apache.sh and remember that they should be executed in the right order.

This takes automatically care of updating the ldconfig cache by
`merging' (that's what the -m option means for ldconfig(1)) the
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Shawn Ramsey writes:
>At 10:50 AM 1/18/00 +0100, Gary Jennejohn wrote:
>>Shawn Ramsey writes:
>> >AHow much memory do you have?  How much swap space you have available?
>> >
>> >
>> >Plenty of both... 198MB of RAM and about 320MB of swap space.
>> >
>>
>>This message usually means that queued packets are not going out the
>>interface. If you ``ifconfig down'' followed by ``ifconfig up'' the
>>interface the queued packets will be discarded - easier than doing a
>>reboot.
>>
>>IMHO this indicates that you have a problem with your hardware (NIC, hub,
>>switch, what have you).
>>
>>This shows up alot with ISDN, that's why I know about it.
>
>Ok... will try the easiest first. Will replace the primary NIC and cable 
>and see what happens. If it was a bad switch, wouldn't other systems exist 
>the same problem? This server is really the only really loaded server on 
>the network though, so if it is traffic dependant, maybe not. 
>

well, it might also indicate that the driver is getting wedged somehow.
You'd see pretty much the same symptoms in that case. I don't know what
kind of HW you have.

Just to clarify a little - the queues are limited to 50 entries IIRC.
Once a queue fills up you start seeing the "No buffer space" message.
An output queue should only fill up if the packets aren't going out
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Dan Langille wrote:
> 
> ...
> OK.  I just moved the following files to a safe location:
> 
> [root@ducky:/usr/local/etc] # ls -ld ssh*
> -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   879 Jan 17 20:03 ssh_config
> -rw-------  1 root  wheel   538 Apr 25  1999 ssh_host_key
> -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   342 Apr 25  1999 ssh_host_key.pub
> -rw-------  1 root  wheel   512 Dec 13 23:32 ssh_random_seed
> -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  1212 Jan 17 20:03 sshd_config
> 
> Then I did a pkg_delete OpenSSH-1.2.1
> then a reinstall of OpenSSH-1.2.1
> ...

Should solve that aspect. Besides, I just tried it and those errors
get logged:

nisser:/home/www/Slak$ grep ssh /var/log/messages
Jan 18 20:55:21 nisser sshd[90159]: error: Could not load host key:
/usr/local/samba/ssh_host_key: No such file or directory

Too bad the ktrace doesn't log the function parameters. Perhaps 
"ktrace -i -ti" does? Or a debug session? Or maybe it does, your
trace stopped short of the interesting stuff:

>  39607 ktrace   NAMI  "/usr/games/ssh"
>  39607 ktrace   RET   execve -1 errno 2 No such file or directory
>  39607 ktrace   CALL  execve(0xbfbfd79c,0xbfbfdc60,0xbfbfdc6c)
>  39607 ktrace   NAMI  "/usr/local/bin/ssh"
>  39607 ktrace   NAMI  "/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1"

All those execve errors refer to the system trying all dirs in your
PATH. The last one (NAMI  "/usr/local/bin/ssh") succeeds. So at that
point ssh gets executed and your trace seemingly stops.

Anyway, looks like the NAMI entries are the parameters after all .

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Thanks for the reply.  I've tried the OpenBSD mailing lists, but Theo 
told me (privately) they cant help me as this is a FreeBSD issue.  I don't 
know how he concluded that.

On 18 Jan 00, at 22:39, Roelof Osinga wrote:

> Too bad the ktrace doesn't log the function parameters. Perhaps 
> "ktrace -i -ti" does? Or a debug session? Or maybe it does, your
> trace stopped short of the interesting stuff:

I think the problem is that I ran ktrace as non-root.  I did run it as root 
and received about 277 KB of output.  I was about to supply a URL for 
that output, but someone on IRC mentioned it contained encrypted 
passwords.  Not a nice thing to publicly distribute.

> 
> >  39607 ktrace   NAMI  "/usr/games/ssh"
> >  39607 ktrace   RET   execve -1 errno 2 No such file or directory
> >  39607 ktrace   CALL  execve(0xbfbfd79c,0xbfbfdc60,0xbfbfdc6c)
> >  39607 ktrace   NAMI  "/usr/local/bin/ssh"
> >  39607 ktrace   NAMI  "/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1"
> 
> All those execve errors refer to the system trying all dirs in your
> PATH. The last one (NAMI  "/usr/local/bin/ssh") succeeds. So at that
> point ssh gets executed and your trace seemingly stops.
> 
> Anyway, looks like the NAMI entries are the parameters after all .

I think I should do another ktrace. And edit the output.  I'll see what I 
can come up with.

FWIW: on two boxes, both with FreeBSD 3.3-19991207-SNAP, one 
works, one doesn't with respect to sshd.  Go figure.
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Dan Langille wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the reply.  I've tried the OpenBSD mailing lists, but Theo
> told me (privately) they cant help me as this is a FreeBSD issue.  I don't
> know how he concluded that.

Maybe he knows something we don't?

> I think the problem is that I ran ktrace as non-root.  I did run it as root
> and received about 277 KB of output.  I was about to supply a URL for
> that output, but someone on IRC mentioned it contained encrypted
> passwords.  Not a nice thing to publicly distribute.

That depends on ones perspective . The only interesting bits would
be those errors that correlate to the one that prompted all this. Plus
the call's and parameters.

> I think I should do another ktrace. And edit the output.  I'll see what I
> can come up with.

We'll see. Hopefully there'll be a NAMI specifying the culprit.

> FWIW: on two boxes, both with FreeBSD 3.3-19991207-SNAP, one
> works, one doesn't with respect to sshd.  Go figure.

Two 3.4-STABLE's have no problem. Am in the process of configuring a
third. Both are barebone SSH installs, i.e. password driven.

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Hi,

Part of dmesg with a BP6 and kernel 4.0-20000114-CURRENT freshly build :

ata-pci1:  port 0xb800-0xb8ff, ...
ata-pci1: Busmastering DMA supported
ata-pci2:  port 0xc400-0xc4ff, ...
ata-pci2: Busmastering DMA supported

It sounds the HighPoint controller is supported, but I saw that *after*
having everything configured, so I don't make use of it and installed
the
systeme with the disk on classic IDE chipset.

It might be interesting if there's any speed enhancement using the
HighPoint.

Anyone tested that ?

Erik


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> 
> Hi all,
> Will Freebsd use the hpt66 chipset's UDMA channel later??
> Thanks
> 
> Keith.
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System:  3.0 with the bouncing daemon screen saver

What I saw: The bouncing daemon was on the screen but was not bouncing.
            Not moving at all. Pushing keys including F1-F3 did nothing.
            Killing console all processes (ttyv0-2) did nothing.  Telnet
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            everything seemed to be working fine.

What I did: Rebooted of course.  Some of my users consider a daytime reboot
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What should I do: Short of rebooting what can I do when this happens again?

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I need to connect 2 FreeBSD stations that are located on the two different floors of the house. The cable wiring is inadequate to
use in this case and I am looking for the alternative solutions. I looked into 3Com 3C410 Network cards that use house telephone
wiring  to connect two computers, but I could not find reference to these on the Hardware list. Does anyone have experience with
similiar products that work with FreeBSD?

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just run some cat 5 you will be much better off in the long run.  You can
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-On [20000118 22:51], Keith Wong (keith@1connect.com) wrote:
>Will Freebsd use the hpt66 chipset's UDMA channel later??

modai@celestial] (23) $ uname -a
FreeBSD celestial.ninth-circle.org 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #4:
Sat Jan 15 10:24:30 CET 2000
asmodai@celestial.ninth-circle.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/CELESTIAL  i386

ata0 at 0x01f0 irq 14 on ata-pci0
ata-pci1:  port
0xd800-0xd8ff,0xd400-0xd403,0xd000-0xd007 irq 18 at device 19.0 on pci0
ata-pci1: Busmastering DMA supported
ata-pci2:  port
0xe400-0xe4ff,0xe000-0xe003,0xdc00-0xdc07 irq 18 at device 19.1 on pci0
ata-pci2: Busmastering DMA supported

ad0:  ATA-4 disk at ata0 as master
ad0: 7665MB (15698592 sectors), 15574 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S
ad0: 16 secs/int, 1 depth queue, UDMA33

And that's due to this being a UDMA33 disk.  If I had an ATA66 disk I
could use it with the HPT.

Answers your question?

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-On [20000118 19:25], Oleg Votincev (oleg@gw.bummash.udmnet.ru) wrote:
>????????????!
>? ???? ??? ????? ??????
>??? ????? ????? ???????????? ????????? ?? ?????? FreeBSD 3.2 ?
>??? ????? ?? ???? ????????? ???????? ????? .
>????  ????? ??????.

Please don't send Russian messages to this list.

There is a russian mailinglist available if you need help in Russian if
you think your english is not up to the task.

But I cannot find the addresses on the freebsd.org site.  Am I being
blind here Alexey?  Or did the Russian group never added their address
to the webpages?

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Hi,

Try this link:

http://www.joydesk.com/

Greetings
Ales

----- Original Message -----
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> Does anyone out there know of an emulator, or software package to run on a
> FreeBSD box that will allow us to use M$ Exchange Server's "Tasks".
>     We are currently using M$ Outlook '97/2000 as a POP3 email client to a
> FreeBSD box, we would like to utilize M$'s "tasks" option, but surely
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> want to require Windows NT Server. Any suggestions welcome.
>
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-On [20000118 16:01], S.Christopoulos (christ@meganet.gr) wrote:
>We have installed the freeBSD 3.2 in our server and it is running the
>procedure named as its DNS.

s/procedure/daemon

>We can't make the appropriate settings for the domains and the settings
>for each one of the domain that we support. (e.g. for the domain.com
>www in address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, mail in address yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy e.t.c.)

You fail to correctly explain:

a) what you are trying to do

b) what kind of errors you get

c) location of your dns files and the information here within

d) what /var/log/messages reports about this

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>  Dear Brett Taylor and Jonathon McKitrick,

> just to split hairs:

> make deinstall ~ pkg_delete -f port_package(s)_listed_in_the_PLIST

> where " ~ " reads "equivalent to".

> In a freshly updated port, the package(s) in question is(are) the
> *new*
> package(s) - not yet made.



This is bsd.port.mk replying to me :-)



#################################################################
# These variables are used to identify your port.
#
# DISTNAME              - Name of port or distribution.
# PKGNAME               - Name of the package file to create if the
DISTNAME
#                                 isn't really relevant for the
port/package
#                                 (default: ${DISTNAME}).
# CATEGORIES    - A list of descriptive categories into which this
port
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[omissis ...]



# Deinstall
#
# Special target to remove installation

.if !target(deinstall)
deinstall:
        @${ECHO_MSG} "=3D=3D=3D>  Deinstalling for ${PKGNAME}"
        @${PKG_DELETE} -f ${PKGNAME}
        @${RM} -f ${INSTALL_COOKIE} ${PACKAGE_COOKIE}
.endif

################################################################







From my KDE-1.1.2 metaport makefile:


 New ports collection makefile for:   kde
# Version required:    around November 1997
# Date created:        4 November 1997
# Whom:                Satoshi Asami 
#
# $FreeBSD: ports/x11/kde11/Makefile,v 1.24 1999/09/18 09:02:09 se Exp
$
#

DISTNAME=3D       kde-1.1.2
CATEGORIES=3D     x11 kde
MASTER_SITES=3D   # empty
DISTFILES=3D      # empty



From my KDE-1.1.2 kdebase port:


# New ports collection makefile for:   kdebase
# Version required:    1.0
# Date created:        28 October 1997
# Whom:                Stefan E=DFer 
#
# $FreeBSD: ports/x11/kdebase11/Makefile,v 1.41 1999/12/07 15:46:35
imura Exp $
#

DISTNAME=3D       kdebase-1.1.2
CATEGORIES=3D     x11 kde



and so on for KDE-1.1.2 components.


That is why e.g. KDE-1.1.2 tries to uninstall the *new* packages (ie
1.1.2); which occurs if one has e.g. KDE-1.1.1.

Unless I've made an awful blunder and misunderstood it all ...


Best regards,
Salvo





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Thanks! The problem was too much RAM!
Don't see how I missed it in the archives, Sorry.

I pulled my 128 MB card and booted the floppies. It worked! I don't
have the CD available at the moment, so I can't try to actually
install the software (and I can't install over the network since I
have a Xircom card which is not supported). Maybe I'll have time to
install the full system tomorrow and rebuild the kernel with the new
MAXMEM. Sine I have 192 MB, I'm guessing that I'll need to adjust the
suggested value up a bit.

First time I've ever had a problem with too much memory!

The fast response is greatly appreciated.

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-On [20000118 19:25], Gleb Belorustsev (glb@mail.ru) wrote:
>FreeBSD 3.4 Release Notes:
>
>"If you do not have access to the Internet and electronic mail is your
> only recourse, then you may still fetch the files by sending mail to
> `ftpmail@ftpmail.vix.com' - putting the keyword "help" in your message
> to get more information on how to fetch files using this mechanism."
>
>My mail-server replys
>"550 ... Host unknown (Name server:
> ftpmail.vix.com: host not found)"

Have you also tried contacting postmaster@vix.com and asking _why_
ftpmail was withdrawn?  This in turn allows us to update the appropriate
handbook sections so that others won't run into the same problem by
someone not investigating hard enough to correct the problem at hand.

>If ftpmail@ftpmail.vix.com does not work, how can I fetch files
>from ftp.freebsd.org by e-mail?

Hell if I know.  Tried a websearch on ftpmail?

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Jonathon McKitrick  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Michael Lucas wrote:
 >>FreeBSD is WC's biggest-selling product.  It makes sense for them to
 >>support it.
 > 
 > That many people buy it?  I thought most get it for free... -=> jm <=-

I do get it for free from the net, but I'm still on the CD-ROM
subscription, to support the FreeBSD project.

(Although I'll probably cancel the subscription if they keep
releasing it 4 times per year; it's getting too expensive for
me, being just a student.  But I'll certainly re-establish the
subscription when I have a real job. :)

Regards
   Oliver

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-On [20000118 20:53], Ing. Fernando Inukai (finukai@aguamodelo.com.mx) wrote:
>I keep getting these messages in the security check and daily run output
>What should I do to correct it?

Given the date, not much.

>kaysa.modelo.int login failures:
>Jan  5 07:59:16 kaysa login: 2 LOGIN FAILURES FROM kaysa
>Jan  5 07:59:16 kaysa login: 2 LOGIN FAILURES FROM kaysa, mgamez
>Jan  5 08:13:24 kaysa login: 1 LOGIN FAILURE ON ttyv0
>Jan  5 08:13:24 kaysa login: 1 LOGIN FAILURE ON ttyv0, ^[[B

Someone accidentally telnetting to your mail server and then realising
he/she wasn't using port 25 but 23?

>Mail in local queue:
>Mail Queue (5 requests)
>--Q-ID-- --Size-- -----Q-Time----- ------------Sender/Recipient------------
>MAA00877*26146335 Wed Jan  5 12:34 
>   
>MAA00919*26146921 Wed Jan  5 12:51 
>   
>MAA00939*26147567 Wed Jan  5 12:56 
>   
>LAA00750*50697473 Wed Jan  5 11:19 
>   
>   
>CAA19187* (no control file)

This might proof what I say above about sending mail.

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-On [20000118 22:51], Kevin Oberman (oberman@es.net) wrote:
>I would like to install FreeBSD on my IBM ThinkPad 600E, but I am
>unable to boot. Using the boot floppy images that boot fine on both my
>PII-366 and K6-3-450 systems on the IBM hangs while probing the
>system. It gets to PNP and locks up. I must disconnect the battery to
>get the system to free up and reboot Windows 98.

_Which_ FreeBSD Release?  We only had like ehm 15 or so.

Secondly, try a bootdisk from current.freebsd.org and see if that works,
that way we know that we tackled all problems with the current codebase.

Very much has changed from 3.x -> 4.0

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-On [20000118 16:00], Jeff Robert Hammel (oblivion@WPI.EDU) wrote:
>My OS is in a state of flux!  I want a Unix-like OS and would like to know
>the differences between FreeBSD and Linux, as well as compatability issues.
>I realize that there's probably alot (and probably already written) so if
>you tell me where to go, that's fine.  On the other hand, anything you 
>wish to add yourself is also welcome.

www.freebsd.org -> mailinglists -> search -> advocacy -> Linux vs
FreeBSD

Have fun.

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Also, there's some new option instead of maxmem, but I haven't had a chance
to try it, be sure you subtract 1024 from the maxmem option. There's
something weird with the thinkpads and you can't use the entire memory
above 64... :(


At 02:47 PM 1/18/00 -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote:
>Thanks! The problem was too much RAM!
>Don't see how I missed it in the archives, Sorry.
>
>I pulled my 128 MB card and booted the floppies. It worked! I don't
>have the CD available at the moment, so I can't try to actually
>install the software (and I can't install over the network since I
>have a Xircom card which is not supported). Maybe I'll have time to
>install the full system tomorrow and rebuild the kernel with the new
>MAXMEM. Sine I have 192 MB, I'm guessing that I'll need to adjust the
>suggested value up a bit.
>
>First time I've ever had a problem with too much memory!
>
>The fast response is greatly appreciated.
>
>R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
>Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
>Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
>E-mail: oberman@es.net			Phone: +1 510 486-8634
>
>

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-On [20000118 08:00], Mike Heffner (mheffner@mailandnews.com) wrote:
>Is there a list of smtp servers freebsd.org will not accept mail from for
>mailing lists anywhere on the net? I need to check if some smtp servers are
>blocked or not.

The default mostly:

RBL and DUL.  Plus some spammers we found and added.  For the remainder,
postmaster@freebsd.org is your friend, as George Cox said.

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Please learn proper use of dots, commas and capitals.  It really makes
people more interested in reading your mail.

-On [20000118 08:00], jeff (jeff@flrtn1.occa.home.com) wrote:
>Hello-I have just tried to install, by cd, my new copy of 3.4-Release
>and ran into an odd problem

>The installation went (as usual) flawlessly until I tried to get back
>into the distributions page to install the games and dictionary
>distribs

>I got a signal 11 and the installation failed at that point

There's an option you can turn on during installation which is called
Debugging.  Set this to yes and then when you try the same things as
before try to see if you can switch to ALT-F2 (vty1) and see if you get
any error messages.

If not, take a peek at the PR database since we had a few reports about
sig11's in sysinstall.

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That's not the point (for me, anyway).  Some of us need to work with 
people who are stuck using MS Outlook and Exchange servers, and we need 
to interact with them.

Thanks ... Scott

At 04:44 PM 1/18/00 -0600, Alejandro Ramirez wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Try this link:
>
>http://www.joydesk.com/
>
>Greetings
>Ales
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Windsor Match Plate and Tool Ltd. 
>To: 
>Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 3:51 PM
>Subject: M$ Exchange Server Support
>
>
> > Does anyone out there know of an emulator, or software package to run 
> on a
> > FreeBSD box that will allow us to use M$ Exchange Server's "Tasks".
> >     We are currently using M$ Outlook '97/2000 as a POP3 email client 
> to a
> > FreeBSD box, we would like to utilize M$'s "tasks" option, but surely
>don't
> > want to require Windows NT Server. Any suggestions welcome.
> >
> > Nathan Vidican,
> > Windsor Match Plate & Tool Ltd.
> > unix_usr@fcmail.com/wmptl@mnsi.net
> >
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I could be really crude and post this message from you on our website, as
a reflection of your group, however I will choose to believe it is not a
reflection of the entire group. After all, Eric Raymond is a friend of
mine, and he helped you folks.=20

Speaking of sharp knives: Perhaps you don't know that Free BSD has a booth
at the Linux World Expo in NY. We were attempting to help promote your
organization, thus the letter. This was the contact we found on the
website, and did seem a logical place to send a question.=20

I guess I'll take a print out of your note and show it to the folks at the
booth and explain it's all we got as a response to an offer to promote
your group.

Kathy



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> You people aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer, are you? This is a
> FreeBSD forum, we don't do linux here.
>=20
> editor@linuxexpo.net wrote:
>=20
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> >
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> >
> > 1. Expo preview.
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> >
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Scott,

Our office lives on Outlook, shared calendars, tasks, venue bookings etc...
all NT Workstation, NT Servers blah blah blah
Personlly I run two linux boxes @ home and 1 bsd box and have a linux box on
my desk at the office and three BSD servers for apache/php development, and
I've basically made it my life's mission to either replace Exchange Server
on the Server or run an exchange server and find some unix-type Outlook
client that will suit our needs, and unfortunately I've found nothing
nothing nothing! Thinks like joydesk and so on are amateur products that
have no polishing and your average idiot user just cant grok the interface
or the useability. Thats clearly why linux hasn't got the market penetration
we all want it to have, because the software still needs years of work to
get to a point where Joe Bloggs and his wife can click click click and make
a shared appointment for sex in evening. I've never seen GOOD office
productivity tools on any unix system, ever - and until that day I reckon
you and I are going to have to continue running Exchange & Outlook until
either all the stupid users on the planet get nuked or until Sun and Corel
get something better out there (I reckon they are the only developers who
have had SERIOUS end user experience).

Sorry. bad mood everyone ;)

But... if you do manage to find something, give little ol me a shout!

.mike

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
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Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 1:03 AM
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Cc: Windsor Match Plate and Tool Ltd.; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Server Support


That's not the point (for me, anyway).  Some of us need to work with 
people who are stuck using MS Outlook and Exchange servers, and we need 
to interact with them.

Thanks ... Scott

At 04:44 PM 1/18/00 -0600, Alejandro Ramirez wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Try this link:
>
>http://www.joydesk.com/
>
>Greetings
>Ales
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Windsor Match Plate and Tool Ltd. 
>To: 
>Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 3:51 PM
>Subject: M$ Exchange Server Support
>
>
> > Does anyone out there know of an emulator, or software package to run 
> on a
> > FreeBSD box that will allow us to use M$ Exchange Server's "Tasks".
> >     We are currently using M$ Outlook '97/2000 as a POP3 email client 
> to a
> > FreeBSD box, we would like to utilize M$'s "tasks" option, but surely
>don't
> > want to require Windows NT Server. Any suggestions welcome.
> >
> > Nathan Vidican,
> > Windsor Match Plate & Tool Ltd.
> > unix_usr@fcmail.com/wmptl@mnsi.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
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RE: M$ Exchange Server Support




Scott,




Our office lives on Outlook, shared calendars, tasks, =
venue bookings etc... all NT Workstation, NT Servers blah blah =
blah



Personlly I run two linux boxes @ home and 1 bsd box =
and have a linux box on my desk at the office and three BSD servers for =
apache/php development, and I've basically made it my life's mission to =
either replace Exchange Server on the Server or run an exchange server =
and find some unix-type Outlook client that will suit our needs, and =
unfortunately I've found nothing nothing nothing! Thinks like joydesk =
and so on are amateur products that have no polishing and your average =
idiot user just cant grok the interface or the useability. Thats =
clearly why linux hasn't got the market penetration we all want it to =
have, because the software still needs years of work to get to a point =
where Joe Bloggs and his wife can click click click and make a shared =
appointment for sex in evening. I've never seen GOOD office =
productivity tools on any unix system, ever - and until that day I =
reckon you and I are going to have to continue running Exchange & =
Outlook until either all the stupid users on the planet get nuked or =
until Sun and Corel get something better out there (I reckon they are =
the only developers who have had SERIOUS end user =
experience).



Sorry. bad mood everyone ;)




But... if you do manage to find something, give =
little ol me a shout!




.mike




-----Original Message-----

From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG

[mailto:owner-freebsd=
-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Scott Brim

Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 1:03 AM

To: Alejandro Ramirez

Cc: Windsor Match Plate and Tool Ltd.; =
freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG

Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Server Support






That's not the point (for me, anyway).  Some of =
us need to work with 

people who are stuck using MS Outlook and Exchange =
servers, and we need 

to interact with them.




Thanks ... Scott




At 04:44 PM 1/18/00 -0600, Alejandro Ramirez =
wrote:

>Hi,

>

>Try this link:

>

>http://www.joydesk.com/

>

>Greetings

>Ales

>

>----- Original Message -----

>From: Windsor Match Plate and Tool Ltd. =
<wmptl@MNSi.Net>

>To: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>

>Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 3:51 PM

>Subject: M$ Exchange Server Support

>

>

> > Does anyone out there know of an emulator, =
or software package to run 

> on a

> > FreeBSD box that will allow us to use M$ =
Exchange Server's "Tasks".

> >     We are currently =
using M$ Outlook '97/2000 as a POP3 email client 

> to a

> > FreeBSD box, we would like to utilize M$'s =
"tasks" option, but surely

>don't

> > want to require Windows NT Server. Any =
suggestions welcome.

> >

> > Nathan Vidican,

> > Windsor Match Plate & Tool Ltd.

> > unix_usr@fcmail.com/wmptl@mnsi.net

> >

> >

> >

> >

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-On [20000119 00:00], hal Lynch (hal@sticky.usu.edu) wrote:
>System:  3.0 with the bouncing daemon screen saver
>
>What should I do: Short of rebooting what can I do when this happens again?

Go to STABLE?

A lot of bugs were caught and squished.

Or if you prefer the slow way, try one release at a time until you don't
get this anymore.

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-On [20000118 04:02], David Fuchs (beastie@beastie.net) wrote:
>Does anyone know where I can get some definitive information for CNEWS?
>I've installed
>
>nntp-1.5.12.2.tgz and
>cnews-cr.g.tgz
>
>on FreeBSD 3.2 and I've got the news server working, but everything
>with CNEWS comes in a multitude of batch files.  The information I'm
>looking for is essentially this:

One question before we start answering,

why on earth are you using CNEWS?

The design of CNEWS cannot cope with modern day newsfeeds, since CNEWS
uses a batch method.

I strongly urge you to use INN or likewise server or in case of not
needing a full feed, something like leafnode(+) or suck.

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-On [20000118 12:00], Danny (dannyh@idx.com.au) wrote:

>I was wondering if anyone can find the dmail.tgz and dnews.tgz for a
>"simple" solution to deploy dmail and dnews?

You mean you need those files?

have you tried:

ftp://ftp.netwinsite.com/pub/netwinsite

Or have you tried:

cd /usr/ports/news/dnews ?

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Hi,

I'm running FreeBSD 3.4R and I was thinking of purchasing a zip drive to
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I remember when I bought the internel scsi zip it came with a cheapy looking
isa zip only scsi card.  Is that supported?  And would that be my best bet
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Thanks,
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-On [20000118 00:02], Support (rjn103s@mgr3.k12.mo.us) wrote:
>If a user gets listed twice in a group will programs like rmuser get rid of
>every occurance?  What else could happen or not function correctly?

Not sure.  Will have to test it.  My guess is that it will remove both
occurences, but I am not 100% sure.

Nothing will go kablooie.  You might get some warnings on adduser usage.

Best thing is to always verify after adduser/rmuser.  Safe practice,
costs little time and you have a safe feeling.

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-On [20000119 00:00], Erik de Zeeuw (erik@usishealth.com) wrote:
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>It might be interesting if there's any speed enhancement using the
>HighPoint.
>
>Anyone tested that ?

Depends.

You cannot run a PIO drive faster than its PIO value. =P

But the HPT support in the ata driver performs incredibly well, save for
some saturation problems on the PCI bus which Peter Wemm and S/oren
Schmidt are investigating.

But then again, that was like 5 or 6 ATA66 drives. ;)

We do outperform the Linux driver, that's for sure.

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:( Oops... sorry then, I'll give INN a try.  It's only been 3 days since I
decided to run a news server.. so I'm still learning.  Thanks a lot for your
help though, it's greatly appreciated!!

-David Fuchs

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> [Lines properly wrapped at 72 chars will increase readability]
>
> -On [20000118 04:02], David Fuchs (beastie@beastie.net) wrote:
> >Does anyone know where I can get some definitive information for CNEWS?
> >I've installed
> >
> >nntp-1.5.12.2.tgz and
> >cnews-cr.g.tgz
> >
> >on FreeBSD 3.2 and I've got the news server working, but everything
> >with CNEWS comes in a multitude of batch files.  The information I'm
> >looking for is essentially this:
>
> One question before we start answering,
>
> why on earth are you using CNEWS?
>
> The design of CNEWS cannot cope with modern day newsfeeds, since CNEWS
> uses a batch method.
>
> I strongly urge you to use INN or likewise server or in case of not
> needing a full feed, something like leafnode(+) or suck.
>
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> id Software has released the sources for Quake under GPL today...
> ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/idgames/idstuff/source/q1source.zip

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Hello,

I tried the following with succes.

Disk wd1 is a dos formatted disk with only my win95 swapfile on it.
I used 'swapon wd1' to make it a FreeBSD swap device. This works ok.
When I reboot to windows it doesn't complain and uses my wd1 as swap.
The rootdirectory has a lot of illegal filenames in it, but also a valid
swapfile and it looks like everything is oke.

Is this going to work for always? Is it this simple to share the disk?
Or wil it be better to write some valid sectors for the fat and rootdir.
when I shutdown FreeBSD. If yes, does this always work, because you cannot
stop FreeBSD using the swap.

I hope somebody can explain these to me,

Ronald.

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In the last episode (Jan 18), Alejandro Ramirez said:
> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 9:18 AM
> Subject: Quake source
> 
> 
> > id Software has released the sources for Quake under GPL today...
> > ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/idgames/idstuff/source/q1source.zip
> 
> Greetings
> Ales

We're way ahead of you.  Check out ports/games/quakeforge .

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Hi Kathy,

On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, LinuxExpo.Net Editor wrote:

> I guess I'll take a print out of your note and show it to the folks at
> the booth and explain it's all we got as a response to an offer to
> promote your group.

The problem is you did not send the email to the developers of FreeBSD,
nor Walnut Creek, the primary distributor, but to a mailing list designed
to answer users' questions about FreeBSD.  This list is populated by a
large number of new users and a few experienced users to help the new
people, but is not (primarily) populated by the core group of developers
due to the low signal to noise ratio.

Your email would have been better sent to freebsd-core or at least
freebsd-advocacy.  The -core address would have gotten you the core group
of developers.  At this point, I would recommend you contact Jordan
Hubbard directly at jkh@freebsd.org.

I'm sorry this occurred - as with anything, you don't always get
represented well by users.  This user is not officially associated with
the FreeBSD core team and I would hope that you don't hold it against us
(not that I'm any more officially associated than he was - I am however
associated w/ Daemon News, a BSD ezine and have contributed work to the
FreeBSD project).

Brett
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At 10/01/00, you wrote:
>Does anyone out there know of an emulator, or software package to run on a
>FreeBSD box that will allow us to use M$ Exchange Server's "Tasks".
>     We are currently using M$ Outlook '97/2000 as a POP3 email client to a
>FreeBSD box, we would like to utilize M$'s "tasks" option, but surely don't
>want to require Windows NT Server. Any suggestions welcome.


You can try OpenMail:
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On Tue, Jan 18, 2000 at 06:29:04PM -0500, William Wong wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm running FreeBSD 3.4R and I was thinking of purchasing a zip drive to
> back up files on my old 486.
> 
> I remember when I bought the internel scsi zip it came with a cheapy looking
> isa zip only scsi card.  Is that supported?  And would that be my best bet
> or should I look for a parallel port version?

My recommendation is for the external SCSI ZIP drive. It's faster than
the parallel port version, and you can still shift it from machine to
machine. Addtionally, it's SCSI, which FreeBSD supports very well.

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I looked over your website quite extensively, and nearly every page has :
freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
at the bottom of the page, with no reference to it being a mailing list.
It might be better to make it more clear who one can use at contacts.
Since then, I've dug deeper and found a "who's responsible for what" page,
but there is no indication of contacts on the top pages.
Thanks
Kathy

On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Brett Taylor wrote:

> Hi Kathy,
> 
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, LinuxExpo.Net Editor wrote:
> 
> > I guess I'll take a print out of your note and show it to the folks at
> > the booth and explain it's all we got as a response to an offer to
> > promote your group.
> 
> The problem is you did not send the email to the developers of FreeBSD,
> nor Walnut Creek, the primary distributor, but to a mailing list designed
> to answer users' questions about FreeBSD.  This list is populated by a
> large number of new users and a few experienced users to help the new
> people, but is not (primarily) populated by the core group of developers
> due to the low signal to noise ratio.
> 
> Your email would have been better sent to freebsd-core or at least
> freebsd-advocacy.  The -core address would have gotten you the core group
> of developers.  At this point, I would recommend you contact Jordan
> Hubbard directly at jkh@freebsd.org.
> 
> I'm sorry this occurred - as with anything, you don't always get
> represented well by users.  This user is not officially associated with
> the FreeBSD core team and I would hope that you don't hold it against us
> (not that I'm any more officially associated than he was - I am however
> associated w/ Daemon News, a BSD ezine and have contributed work to the
> FreeBSD project).
> 
> Brett
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 1/19/00, 12:13:11 AM, "LinuxExpo.Net Editor" =20
wrote regarding Re: Exhibitor preview of Linux World:


> I could be really crude and post this message from you on our website,=
=20
as
> a reflection of your group, however I will choose to believe it is not=
=20
a
> reflection of the entire group. After all, Eric Raymond is a friend of=

> mine, and he helped you folks.

> Speaking of sharp knives: Perhaps you don't know that Free BSD has a=20
booth
> at the Linux World Expo in NY. We were attempting to help promote your=

> organization, thus the letter. This was the contact we found on the
> website, and did seem a logical place to send a question.

> I guess I'll take a print out of your note and show it to the folks at=
=20
the
> booth and explain it's all we got as a response to an offer to promote=

> your group.

> Kathy



> On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Walter Brameld wrote:

> > You people aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer, are you? This i=
s=20
a
> > FreeBSD forum, we don't do linux here.



Sic arbiter elegantiarum locutus ...=20

Hmmm, wasn't it M$ who had an absolute mindset ?

Intelligenti pauca.





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> >>This message usually means that queued packets are not going out the
> >>interface. If you ``ifconfig down'' followed by ``ifconfig up'' the
> >>interface the queued packets will be discarded - easier than doing a
> >>reboot.
> >>
> >>IMHO this indicates that you have a problem with your hardware (NIC, hub,
> >>switch, what have you).

Is there a way I can monitor this ? What about netstat -a? Anything in 
particular I should be watching for when I get the no buffer space? What 
does the number under Send-Q mean in the output of netstat -a?


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* Ronald Klop  [000118 16:04] wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I tried the following with succes.
> 
> Disk wd1 is a dos formatted disk with only my win95 swapfile on it.
> I used 'swapon wd1' to make it a FreeBSD swap device. This works ok.
> When I reboot to windows it doesn't complain and uses my wd1 as swap.
> The rootdirectory has a lot of illegal filenames in it, but also a valid
> swapfile and it looks like everything is oke.
> 
> Is this going to work for always? Is it this simple to share the disk?
> Or wil it be better to write some valid sectors for the fat and rootdir.
> when I shutdown FreeBSD. If yes, does this always work, because you cannot
> stop FreeBSD using the swap.
> 
> I hope somebody can explain these to me,

One trick you could use was a script that mounted the msdos filesystem
removed the swapfile and created a large swapfile for freebsd's use.

you could then use 'vnconfig' to make it into a swap device and issue
a 'swapon' command to begin swapping on it,  then in windows simply
add a command to delete the freebsd swapfile.

i would _NOT_ recommend doing what you are currenly doing, FreeBSD
will be happy, but you're corrupting the msdos FAT and if you 
confuse window's ideas about where parts of it's swapfile is, there's
no telling what damage it can do.

-Alfred


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RE: M$ Exchange Server SupportHas anyone looked at intrastore yet not =
bad not quite but very good (free to 250 user for linux)

http://intrastore.cdc.com=20


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Michael Bartlett=20
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  Scott,=20

  Our office lives on Outlook, shared calendars, tasks, venue bookings =
etc... all NT Workstation, NT Servers blah blah blah

  Personlly I run two linux boxes @ home and 1 bsd box and have a linux =
box on my desk at the office and three BSD servers for apache/php =
development, and I've basically made it my life's mission to either =
replace Exchange Server on the Server or run an exchange server and find =
some unix-type Outlook client that will suit our needs, and =
unfortunately I've found nothing nothing nothing! Thinks like joydesk =
and so on are amateur products that have no polishing and your average =
idiot user just cant grok the interface or the useability. Thats clearly =
why linux hasn't got the market penetration we all want it to have, =
because the software still needs years of work to get to a point where =
Joe Bloggs and his wife can click click click and make a shared =
appointment for sex in evening. I've never seen GOOD office productivity =
tools on any unix system, ever - and until that day I reckon you and I =
are going to have to continue running Exchange & Outlook until either =
all the stupid users on the planet get nuked or until Sun and Corel get =
something better out there (I reckon they are the only developers who =
have had SERIOUS end user experience).

  Sorry. bad mood everyone ;)=20

  But... if you do manage to find something, give little ol me a shout!=20

  .mike=20

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  That's not the point (for me, anyway).  Some of us need to work with=20
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http://intrastore.cdc.com =



 


 


  
----- Original Message ----- 

  From:=20
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Scott, 

  
Our office lives on Outlook, shared calendars, =
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blah

  
Personlly I run two linux boxes @ home and 1 bsd box =
and have=20
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apache/php=20
  development, and I've basically made it my life's mission to either =
replace=20
  Exchange Server on the Server or run an exchange server and find some=20
  unix-type Outlook client that will suit our needs, and unfortunately =
I've=20
  found nothing nothing nothing! Thinks like joydesk and so on are =
amateur=20
  products that have no polishing and your average idiot user just cant =
grok the=20
  interface or the useability. Thats clearly why linux hasn't got the =
market=20
  penetration we all want it to have, because the software still needs =
years of=20
  work to get to a point where Joe Bloggs and his wife can click click =
click and=20
  make a shared appointment for sex in evening. I've never seen GOOD =
office=20
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reckon you=20
  and I are going to have to continue running Exchange & Outlook =
until=20
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Corel get=20
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have had=20
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Sorry. bad mood everyone ;) 

  
But... if you do manage to find something, give =
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.mike 

  
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> Just to be sure, do you have KDE 1.2 or so?  I know 1.1 theme support
> was almost useless.  That's the default that came with my 3.2 CD.  But
> the newest version (1.2?) has integrated theme support.  I guess
> mandrake just forced 1.1 to work well with themes.

I just built 1.1.2.  I could have sworn the first time I used it I had
the theme manager.  I don't have it now though.  Kde control center
doesn't work at all, it's just an empty window.


	
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Hello,

Is it possible currently to enforce password rules like NT does when
it comes to reuse of old passwords: A user is not allowed to re-use
the same password or any of the previous n (=10?) old passwords.

Currently when passwords must be changed in BSD it seems that passwd
does not care if you reuse the same password that you had!  If this is
not currently supported, does anyone have suggestions about the right
way to implement this?  I am considering saving each user's n last
encrypted passwords in a root-read-only database under /etc and
testing new passwords against old in passwd.

Thanks,
Scott


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On 18/01 15:16, hal Lynch wrote:

> System:  3.0 with the bouncing daemon screen saver

FreeBSD 3.0 was not one of the better releases. :-/


> What should I do: Short of rebooting what can I do when this happens again?

The very least you should do is cvsup to 3.4-STABLE and make world.  That
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I was wondering if anyone has had success (or failure) getting FreeBSD
as well as XFree86 to run on a Dell P100 Notebook. The mail archives
mention problems with the video chipset on many Dell notebooks, but
there seem to be conflicting reports.

Anyone running FreeBDS with X on this type of notebook? Note that this
is a P100 and not the latest stuff Dell is cranking out.

Any info is much appreciated. Thanks.
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Oliver Fromme wrote:

> David Heller  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
>  > I reconfigured my kernel to support USB (I simply added the relevant
>  > lines from the LINT file in the config directory) recompiled and
>  > installed the kernel. However the kernel when booting does not seem to
>  > recognize that I have an onboard controller.
>
> Which version of FreeBSD are you using?  (Why do people always
> forget to mention this in the first place?!?)
>
> Is the USB controller enabled in the BIOS setup?
>
> Please send us your kernel config file, and `dmesg` output.
>
> Regards
>    Oliver
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Please find below dmesg output and kernel config. Also note doing "usbd -d
-f  /dev/usb0 " gives the following output: /dev/usb0 device not configured.
The file is there under /dev/usb0.

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FreeBSD 3.3-19991005-STABLE #12: Mon Jan 17 12:06:20 GMT 2000
    dheller@main.hellerkin.local:/usr/src/sys/compile/MYKERNEL
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: Pentium/P54C (75.17-MHz 586-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x525  Stepping = 5
  Features=0x1bf
real memory  = 67108864 (65536K bytes)
avail memory = 61956096 (60504K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0328000.
Probing for PnP devices:
CSN 1 Vendor ID: CMI0001 [0x0100a90d] Serial 0x01000100 Comp ID: @@@0000 [0x00000000]
Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
sc0 on isa
sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard
atkbd0 irq 1 on isa
sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa
sio1: type 16550A
pcm0 not found
fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in
wdc0 not found at 0x1f0
wdc1 not found at 0x170
ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa
ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
lpt0:  on ppbus 0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0:  on ppbus 0
plip0:  on ppbus 0
2 3C5x9 board(s) on ISA found at 0x350 0x340
ep0 at 0x350-0x35f irq 12 on isa
ep0: utp[*UTP*] address 00:10:4b:24:c8:00
ep1 at 0x340-0x34f irq 10 on isa
ep1: aui/bnc[*AUI*] address 00:a0:24:8f:0f:cd
bt0 at 0x330-0x333 irq 11 on isa
bt0: BT-946C FW Rev. 4.28D Narrow SCSI Host Adapter, SCSI ID 7, 100 CCBs
vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa
npx0 on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug
IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, logging disabled
Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
changing root device to da0s1a
da0 at bt0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0:  Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da0: 4095MB (8388315 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 522C)
WARNING: / was not properly dismounted

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#
# GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks
#
# For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on
# Kernel Configuration Files:
#
#    http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
#
# The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook
# if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the
# FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/) for the
# latest information.
#
# An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the
# device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are
# in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT.
#
# $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.143.2.22 1999/09/14 22:53:30 jkh Exp $

machine		"i386"
cpu		"I386_CPU"
cpu		"I486_CPU"
cpu		"I586_CPU"
cpu		"I686_CPU"
ident		GENERIC
maxusers	32

options		"EXT2FS"
options 	MATH_EMULATE		#Support for x87 emulation
options 	INET			#InterNETworking
options 	FFS			#Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options 	FFS_ROOT		#FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
options 	MFS			#Memory Filesystem
options 	MFS_ROOT		#MFS usable as root device, "MFS" req'ed
options 	NFS			#Network Filesystem
options 	NFS_ROOT		#NFS usable as root device, "NFS" req'ed
options 	MSDOSFS			#MSDOS Filesystem
options 	"CD9660"		#ISO 9660 Filesystem
options 	"CD9660_ROOT"		#CD-ROM usable as root. "CD9660" req'ed
options 	PROCFS			#Process filesystem
options 	"COMPAT_43"		#Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
options 	SCSI_DELAY=15000	#Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device
options 	UCONSOLE		#Allow users to grab the console
options 	FAILSAFE		#Be conservative
options 	USERCONFIG		#boot -c editor
options 	VISUAL_USERCONFIG	#visual boot -c editor
options 	KTRACE			#ktrace(1) syscall trace support
options 	SYSVSHM			#SYSV-style shared memory
options 	SYSVMSG			#SYSV-style message queues
options 	SYSVSEM			#SYSV-style semaphores
options    	"P1003_1B"
options		"_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING"
options		"_KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L"
options		USER_LDT
options		IPDIVERT
options		IPFIREWALL

config		kernel	root on wd0

# To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
#options 	SMP			# Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
#options 	APIC_IO			# Symmetric (APIC) I/O
# Optionally these may need tweaked, (defaults shown):
#options 	NCPU=2			# number of CPUs
#options 	NBUS=4			# number of busses
#options 	NAPIC=1			# number of IO APICs
#options 	NINTR=24		# number of INTs

controller	isa0
controller	pnp0			# PnP support for ISA
controller	eisa0
controller	pci0

# USB support
# UHCI controller 
controller	uhci0
# OHCI controller
controller	ohci0
# General USB code (mandatory for USB)
controller	usb0
#
# Generic USB device driver
device		ugen0
# Human Interface Device (anything with buttons and dials)
device		uhid0
# USB keyboard
device		ukbd0
# USB printer
device		ulpt0
# USB mouse
device		ums0
#

# debugging options for the USB subsystem
#
options		UHCI_DEBUG
options		OHCI_DEBUG
options		USB_DEBUG

options		UGEN_DEBUG
options		UHID_DEBUG
options		UHUB_DEBUG
options		UKBD_DEBUG
options		ULPT_DEBUG
options		UMS_DEBUG


# Floppy drives
controller	fdc0	at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2
disk		fd0	at fdc0 drive 0
disk		fd1	at fdc0 drive 1

# IDE controller and disks
options		"CMD640"	# work around CMD640 chip deficiency
controller	wdc0	at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14
disk		wd0	at wdc0 drive 0
disk		wd1	at wdc0 drive 1

controller	wdc1	at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15
disk		wd2	at wdc1 drive 0
disk		wd3	at wdc1 drive 1

# ATAPI devices
options		ATAPI		#Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus
options		ATAPI_STATIC	#Don't do it as an LKM
device		acd0		#IDE CD-ROM
device		wfd0		#IDE Floppy (e.g. LS-120)

# SCSI Controllers
# A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc) is
# sufficient for any number of installed devices.
#controller	ncr0		# NCR/Symbios Logic
#controller	ahb0		# EISA AHA1742 family
#controller	ahc0		# AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
#controller	amd0		# AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T))
#controller	isp0		# Qlogic family
#controller	dpt0		# DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options!

#controller	adv0	at isa? port ? cam irq ?
#controller	adw0
controller	bt0	at isa? port ? cam irq ?
#controller	aha0	at isa? port ? cam irq ?

# SCSI peripherals
# Only one of each of these is needed, they are dynamically allocated.
controller	scbus0		# SCSI bus (required)
device		da0		# Direct Access (disks)
device		sa0		# Sequential Access (tape etc)
device		cd0		# CD
device		pass0		# Passthrough device (direct SCSI)

# Proprietary or custom CD-ROM Interfaces
#device		wt0	at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1
#device		mcd0	at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10
#device		matcd0	at isa? port 0x230 bio
#device		scd0	at isa? port 0x230 bio

# atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
controller	atkbdc0	at isa? port IO_KBD tty
device		atkbd0	at isa? tty irq 1
#device		psm0	at isa? tty irq 12

device		vga0	at isa? port ? conflicts

# splash screen/screen saver
pseudo-device	splash

# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
device		sc0	at isa? tty

# Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver
#device		vt0	at isa? tty
#options 	XSERVER			# support for X server
#options 	FAT_CURSOR		# start with block cursor
# If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines
#options 	PCVT_SCANSET=2		# IBM keyboards are non-std

# Floating point support - do not disable.
device		npx0	at isa? port IO_NPX irq 13

# Power management support (see LINT for more options)
device		apm0    at isa?	disable	flags 0x31 # Advanced Power Management

# PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
#controller	card0
#device		pcic0	at card?
#device		pcic1	at card?

# Serial (COM) ports
device		sio0	at isa? port "IO_COM1" flags 0x10 tty irq 4
device		sio1	at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3
device		sio2	at isa? disable port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5
device		sio3	at isa? disable port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9

# Parallel port
device		ppc0	at isa? port? flags 0x40 net irq 7
controller	ppbus0			# Parallel port bus (required)
device		lpt0	at ppbus?	# Printer
device		plip0	at ppbus?	# TCP/IP over parallel
device		ppi0	at ppbus?	# Parallel port interface device
#controller	vpo0	at ppbus?	# Requires scbus and da0

# PCI Ethernet NICs.
device		al0		# ADMtek AL981 (``Comet'')
device		ax0		# ASIX AX88140A
device		de0		# DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
device		fxp0		# Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
device		mx0		# Macronix 98713/98715/98725 (``PMAC'')
device		pn0		# Lite-On 82c168/82c169 (``PNIC'')
device		rl0		# RealTek 8129/8139
device		sf0		# Adaptec AIC-6915 DuraLAN (``Starfire'')
device		tl0		# Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
device		tx0		# SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'')
device		vr0		# VIA Rhine, Rhine II
device		vx0		# 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')
device		wb0		# Winbond W89C840F
device		xl0		# 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')

# ISA Ethernet NICs.
# Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize
# this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed.
# Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See
# revision 1.20 of this file.
#device		ed0	at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
#device		ie0	at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000
device		ep0	at isa? port 0x350 net irq 12
device		ep1	at isa? port 0x340 net irq 10
#device		fe0	at isa? port 0x300 net irq ?
#device		le0	at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000
#device		lnc0	at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0
#device		cs0	at isa? port 0x300 net irq ?
# requires PCCARD (PCMCIA) support to be activated
#device		xe0	at isa? port? net irq ?

# PCCARD NIC drivers.
# ze and zp take over the pcic and cannot coexist with generic pccard
# support, nor the ed and ep drivers they replace.
#device		ze0	at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
#device		zp0	at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000

# Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated.
pseudo-device	loop		# Network loopback
pseudo-device	ether		# Ethernet support
pseudo-device	sl	1	# Kernel SLIP
pseudo-device	ppp	1	# Kernel PPP
pseudo-device	tun	1	# Packet tunnel
pseudo-device	pty	16	# Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
pseudo-device	gzip		# Exec gzipped a.out's

# The `bpfilter' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
# Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
# The number of devices determines the maximum number of
# simultaneous BPF clients programs runnable.
pseudo-device	bpfilter 1	#Berkeley packet filter
device pcm0 at isa ? port? tty irq 5 drq 1 


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On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 08:43:57AM -0800, Scott Hess wrote:
|
| Is there any way for an rfork() process to detect if it's parent process
| has died?  I mean via some sort of asynchronous notification?

From the manpage of kill(2) we read:

    The kill() function sends the signal given by sig to pid, a process
    or a group of processes.  Sig may be one of the signals specified
    in sigaction(2) or it may be 0, in which case error checking is
    performed but no signal is actually sent.  This can be used to
    check the validity of pid.

Therefore, what you need is:

    int is_parent_alive (void)
    {
	return (kill(getppid(), 0) == 0);
    }

Not sure how this works with rfork() though...  I haven't had the time
to test it :/

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Subject: Re: OpenSSH 1.2.1 refusing incoming connections
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On 18 Jan 00, at 23:04, Roelof Osinga wrote:

> Two 3.4-STABLE's have no problem. Am in the process of configuring a
> third. Both are barebone SSH installs, i.e. password driven.

Problem solved.  User error.

The box which was failing to allow incoming ssh connection had a 
tcp_wrappers-7.6.  This was installed when the box was on version 
2.2.7 I think, and was never removed when the box was upgraded.  
FreeBSD after 3.2-RELEASE contains a tcp_wrapper library in the base 
system.

My box had both libwrap.so.2 (base system) and libwrap.so.7 (tcp 
wrapper).  Looking at ldd:

# ldd sshd  (on good box)
sshd:
libcrypto.so.1 =3D> /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.1 (0x28078000)
libcrypt.so.2 =3D> /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.2 (0x28108000)
libutil.so.2 =3D> /usr/lib/libutil.so.2 (0x2811d000)
libz.so.2 =3D> /usr/lib/libz.so.2 (0x28126000)
libwrap.so.2 =3D> /usr/lib/libwrap.so.2 (0x28133000)
libc.so.3 =3D> /usr/lib/libc.so.3 (0x2813a000)

# ldd sshd (on bad box)
sshd:
libcrypto.so.1 =3D> /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.1 (0x2807b000)
libcrypt.so.2 =3D> /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.2 (0x2810b000)
libutil.so.2 =3D> /usr/lib/libutil.so.2 (0x2810e000)
libz.so.2 =3D> /usr/lib/libz.so.2 (0x28117000)
libwrap.so.7 =3D> /usr/local/lib/libwrap.so.7 (0x28124000)
libc.so.3 =3D> /usr/lib/libc.so.3 (0x2812b000)

So here is a brief outline of what was happening during my ssh 
connection attempt:

sshd asks tcp_wrappers: "how about this connection?"
tcp_wrappers looks at /usr/local/etc/hosts.allow
the file doesn't exist
tcp_wrappers finds no rules allowing this connection
tcp_wrappers replies to sshd "no way!=A0 this connection can't happen!"
sshd says, "sorry, you can't connect".

I had /etc/hosts.allow, as per libwrap.so.2.

The solution:

pkg_delete OpenSSH-1.2.1
cd /usr/ports/security/openssh
make clean
make
make install

and try again.

On a side note: when installing the latest port of OpenSSH, I got this:

# make install
=3D=3D=3D>  Installing for OpenSSH-1.2.1
Error: category ipv6 not in list of valid categories.

removing ipv6 from the Categories in the Makefile fixed this.

Eventually the above will be documented in better detail at:

http://www.freebsddiary.org/ssh_refused.html

My thanks to those that help, both here and offlist.  Much appreciated.
--
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Hello,

Two days before, I installed a fresh FreeBSD 3.1-Release from offical C=
D-ROM, and then cvsup it as 3.4-STABLE via my
low speed 56kps line. I didn't install the old verion of XFree86 of cou=
rse. I want to run XFree86 3.3.6!=20

At first I install XFree86 3.3.6 by 3.4-STABLE's sysinstall but fail.  =
(I discover there is only XFree86 3.3.5 package at ftp.cdrom.com/pub/Fr=
eeBSD/release/i386/3.4-RELEASE). Despite to my low speed line, I cannot=
 help to install 3.3.6 by XFree86 binary=20
distribution method but not by FreeBSD ports method. I do not want to w=
ait 2 hours to download two big src.tar.gz and then wait 1.5 hours agai=
n to compile it as well as taking with the risk of failure. So I downlo=
ad any X*.tar.gz I need at ftp.cdrom/com/
pub/XFree86 and install it mannually by=20

$ su -
# mkdir /usr/X11R6
# cd /usr/X11R6
# sh /tmp/preinst.sh
# tar zxvf /tmp/Xbin.tgz
# tar zxvf ....
# tar zxvf ...
# sh /tmp/postinst.sh

This only take 40min. to complete.

After that, my XFree86 3.3.6 works with no problems until running netsc=
ape 4.7 navigator. When I launch netscape, it refuse with a error messa=
ge "ld.so -- cannot find libXt.so.6.0"  That is ture , my system really=
 have not "libXt.so.6.0" .  At the=20
directory /usr/X11R6/lib, I only found libXt.so.6 and it's soft link li=
bXt.so. I try soft link "libXt.so.6" to "libXt.so.6.0" but not success.=

Now I have no gui brower. No matter which native freebsd netscape versi=
on I choose from ports, the result is the same. May you help me? I need=
 netscape to brower english & chinese web page in X.

A freebsd lover in Hong Kong
Lawrence H.Y. Cheung

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Ok, so I tried for a panic, but it still just locks up. So now what do I
do?

John
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> > Compile a debug kernel also including the kernel debugger.
> I'll rebuild the kernel with debugging options and see if I can get
more
> information.
>
> > > Is fileaccess in the middle of a dump bad?
> >
> > Supposedly dump handles this reasonably well.
> > > Last night in the middle of this process the system locked up.
> >
> > Shouldn't do that.
>
> That's what I thought too... Oh, well...
>
> John
> -------------------------
> Date: 12/30/1999
> Author: Christian Weisgerber 
>
> John Hanna  wrote:
>
> > I run dump nightly to backup my files to a second disk,
>
> Let me tell you something. In the last couple of years I have twice
lost
> all hard disks in a system at the same time. The first
> time, the power supply blew and apparently sent a spike down the 12V
> output. The second time, I ran into a faulty power cable that
> reversed +5V and +12V.
>
> Backups to another disk in the same box aren't.
>
> > dump -0 -a -f - / |gzip >/backup/larryboy/larryboy.root.dump.gz
> > dump -0 -a -f - /usr |gzip >/backup/larryboy/larryboy.usr.dump.gz
> >
> > Last night in the middle of this process the system locked up.
>
> Shouldn't do that.
>
> > Is fileaccess in the middle of a dump bad?
>
> Supposedly dump handles this reasonably well.
>
> > I can't shut off all server functions for the duration of the
> > dump.
>
> Neither do I.
>
> > Is there a way I can make dump more file-sharing-friendly?
>
> No. But this is not a dump problem. dump only *reads* from the file
> system. At most dump could crash. But you are
> saying the system
> locked up.
>
> Compile a debug kernel also including the kernel debugger. See if you
> can panic the machine next time this happens. Try
> to narrow down, where the kernel locks up.
>
> --
> Christian "naddy" Weisgerber
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Mea culpa - please accept my most humble apologies. I
definitely spoke out of turn.

"LinuxExpo.Net Editor" wrote:
> 
> I could be really crude and post this message from you on our website, as
> a reflection of your group, however I will choose to believe it is not a
> reflection of the entire group. After all, Eric Raymond is a friend of
> mine, and he helped you folks.
> 
> Speaking of sharp knives: Perhaps you don't know that Free BSD has a booth
> at the Linux World Expo in NY. We were attempting to help promote your
> organization, thus the letter. This was the contact we found on the
> website, and did seem a logical place to send a question.
> 
> I guess I'll take a print out of your note and show it to the folks at the
> booth and explain it's all we got as a response to an offer to promote
> your group.
> 
> Kathy
> 
> On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Walter Brameld wrote:
> 
> > You people aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer, are you? This is a
> > FreeBSD forum, we don't do linux here.
> >
> > editor@linuxexpo.net wrote:
> >
> > > We would like to invite you to participate in our virtual expo on
> > > LinuxExpo.Net. This is an opportunity for you to promote your company and
> > > the value you add to Linux and the Linux Community.
> > >
> > > You will find your company listed along with other exhibitors at
> > > http://LinuxExpo.Net/LinuxWorld-NY-2000/exhibitors-NY2000.html.
> > >
> > > We are asking you and all the exhibitors to provide us with the
> > > following:
> > >
> > > 1. Expo preview.
> > > 2. How does your company add value to Linux and the Linux Community.
> > >
> > > Please either send us a copy of what you want posted or provide a URL for
> > > each of the above items.
> > >
> > > Linux Expo.Net will be writing about the events and conducting interviews
> > > at Linux World.  If a company representative will be available for a
> > > possible interview, we would appreciate it.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Kathy Miles, Senior Editor
> > > LinuxExpo.Net
> > >
> > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
> > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
> >
> > --
> > Walter
> >
> > in·tel·lec·tu·al (ntl-kch-l)
> > n.      Someone who has been educated past his/her level of intelligence.
> >
> >
> >

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To Kathy, Dr. Taylor and the public forum where I displayed
my thoughtlessness,
   I would like to keep this from snowballing any further
than it has. I certainly do not want to be responsible for
any rift between a Linux organization and FreeBSD. I in no
way represent any part of the FreeBSD project, and any
opinion I gave was strictly my own, inappropriate as it was.
You can rest assured, if there is a dullard in this group it
is the one posting this message.
   Once again, my apologies. I can't tell you how sorry I am
for upsetting you. Please do not hold my idiocy against
FreeBSD.

Brett Taylor wrote:
> 
> Hi Kathy,
> 
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, LinuxExpo.Net Editor wrote:
> 
> > I guess I'll take a print out of your note and show it to the folks at
> > the booth and explain it's all we got as a response to an offer to
> > promote your group.
> 
> The problem is you did not send the email to the developers of FreeBSD,
> nor Walnut Creek, the primary distributor, but to a mailing list designed
> to answer users' questions about FreeBSD.  This list is populated by a
> large number of new users and a few experienced users to help the new
> people, but is not (primarily) populated by the core group of developers
> due to the low signal to noise ratio.
> 
> Your email would have been better sent to freebsd-core or at least
> freebsd-advocacy.  The -core address would have gotten you the core group
> of developers.  At this point, I would recommend you contact Jordan
> Hubbard directly at jkh@freebsd.org.
> 
> I'm sorry this occurred - as with anything, you don't always get
> represented well by users.  This user is not officially associated with
> the FreeBSD core team and I would hope that you don't hold it against us
> (not that I'm any more officially associated than he was - I am however
> associated w/ Daemon News, a BSD ezine and have contributed work to the
> FreeBSD project).
> 
> Brett
> *****************************************************
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Hi,

> I looked over your website quite extensively, and nearly every page
> has : freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG at the bottom of the page

Yeah, but I believe almost all of those are links to the mailto.html page.
That page isn't exactly clear though.

I've sent in a diff for changing that page to point to an official contact
and to clarify that the freebsd-questions email is a mailing list.  I'm
not sure when or if it will be changed - can only wait and see.

Thanks for the reply.

Brett
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Tue Jan 18 18:40:30 2000
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As some may be aware (from the post that started the rather long
volatile variable thread), I am attempting to write an ftp server for a
computer science project.  I've gotten most of the code done, only the
actual data module needs to be written (the Server-DTP for those
familiar with the protocol).  I'm trying to figure out the best way to
find a spare port for PASV connections, and was hoping there's a
slightly more elegant solution than calling bind and checking for
EAADDRINUSE on errno.  I'm expecting my copy of the Stevens book any day
now, so hopefully that'll stop my incessant babbling on these lists...
Sorry for the inconvenience, thanks for the help.

-- 
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> 
> I just built 1.1.2.  I could have sworn the first time I used it I had
> the theme manager.  I don't have it now though.  Kde control center
> doesn't work at all, it's just an empty window.
> 
> 
> --
> Best Regards, Joseph
> 
That's odd. You may want to try to install it again.
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On 18 Jan 2000 16:53:31 -0500, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote:
>Hi there,
>Does any one know if FreeBSD Release 3.4 supports the Adaptec Ultra2 =
>RAID cards Model AAA-133U2. I looked through the Release Notes did not =
>see it listed among the Disk Controllers. Advise and suggestions are =
>appreciated.

It is not supported. Most likely candidates for support are DTP, Mylex and
the AMIMegaRAID.  See http://www.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID for drivers for
STABLE for the Mylex and MegaRAID.  Although the drivers are prelim, I have
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RAID 0,1 and 5.  Note, there are no management applications yet, so you
will have to boot to LINUX or DOS or to the card's BIOS to adjust/rebuild
your RAID sets.

	---Mike
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"Giorgos Keramidas"  wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 08:43:57AM -0800, Scott Hess wrote:
> | Is there any way for an rfork() process to detect if it's parent
process
> | has died?  I mean via some sort of asynchronous notification?
>
> From the manpage of kill(2) we read:

kill( pid, 0) tells me, if I know to ask, "Is this process alive."
Unfortunately, the process I want to know that is going to be in a read(),
or perhaps a select().  I could arrange for it to poll for the parent
process death, but that's going to be fairly inefficient.  I'm looking for
the thing that corrosponds to SIGCHLD for child processes.

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I've been trying to ftp the latest -current snapshot from 
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error: Blocking call cancelled" message (I'm using WS_FTP LE 5.06 under 
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Hello,

I'd like to solicit advice on laptops. What is the best make/model for use
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I know this is trivial, but it bugs me...
Ever notice how when you are using the menus on netscape, sometimes
the choice under the pointer is highlighted, along with pop-up
sub-menus, and other times you have to click?  I can't duplicate
it.  It seems totally inconsistent.. But as we know about computers,
there is usually a good reason somewhere.  Is there a way to make the
menus and choices highlight automatically instead of waiting for the
mouse click?

-=> jm <=-

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Hello,

I was just curious, why is only the developer release (1.1.14) available
as a port for The GIMP, and not the stable version?

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Hello,

I need to make natd work in an environment where IPs are distributed through
DHCP. I noticed the -dynamic switch and was wondering if this will help me
with DHCP? I understand this will not pick an IP from DHCP, but I would like
to know if this will change the IP when the DHCP lease is renewed.

Thanks for the input.

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Please cc: drivera@inktomi.com on the reply.

Can anyone tell me if the Automount NFS feature rungs on 
FreeBSD 3.2? I saw no mention of it on the F.A.Q.

Problem: I'm exploring a filesystem from a Solaris 2.6 server,
	and trying to mount it locally on a FreeBSD 3.2 system.

I know the files that I need to configure are:
	/etc/rc.conf
	/etc/fstab

Any further help would be much appreciated.
My book is currently on order

Sincerely,

Dino Rivera
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On Tue, Jan 18, 2000 at 10:21:23PM -0700, Jeff Lush wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I need to make natd work in an environment where IPs are distributed through
> DHCP. I noticed the -dynamic switch and was wondering if this will help me
> with DHCP? I understand this will not pick an IP from DHCP, but I would like
> to know if this will change the IP when the DHCP lease is renewed.

natd(8) does not actually change any IPs. The -dynamic flag just makes
it continue to work correctly if the IP of the interface it is working
on chages.

I think the natd(8) manpage is atypically lucid on this point,

     -dynamic    If the -n or -interface option is used, natd will monitor the
                 routing socket for alterations to the interface passed.  If
                 the interfaces IP number is changed, natd will dynamically
                 alter its concept of the alias address.

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On Tue, Jan 18, 2000 at 05:53:16PM +0100, rene@xs4all.nl wrote:
> Hija Greg,
> 
> Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 12:05:30, you seem to have written:
> GL> On Monday, 17 January 2000 at 14:17:59 +0100, rene@xs4all.nl wrote:
> >> Hija Olaf,
> >>
> >> Sunday, January 16, 2000, 23:53:48, you seem to have written:
> >>> On Sun 16 Jan 2000 at 20:54:03 +0100, rene@xs4all.nl wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Since it looks like the only thing that you really do by hand is:
> >>>
> >>>> bash-2.02# mount /dev/vinum/myvol /mnt/large
> >>>
> >>> putting it in /etc/fstab should be enough. Something like
> >>>
> >>> # filesys     mount point       type    access                  dump    fsck
> >>> # location                              + opts                  freq    pass
> >>>
> >>> /dev/vinum/myvol /mnt/large     ffs     rw                      1       2
> >>>
> >>> should do it. Unless maybe this tries to mount it too early in the boot
> >>> sequence. In that case, make it
> >>>
> >>> /dev/vinum/myvol /mnt/large     ffs     rw,noauto               1       2
> >>>
> >>> so that the initial mount -a will not try to mount it yet, and put the
> >>> following in /etc/rc.local:
> >>>
> >>> mount /mnt/large
> >>>
> >>> -Olaf (none of this is vinum-sprecific, by te way).
> >>
> >> Thanx for your reply. However, it didn't quite fix it; (after booting)
> >>
> >> bash-2.02# mount /mnt/large
> >> mount: exec mount_ffs not found in /sbin, /usr/sbin: No such file or directory
> >>
> >> if I change the type field in /etc/fstab to 'ufs' instead of 'ffs', I
> >> get a filesystemcheck error; /dev/vinum/rmyvol: device not configured
> >>
> >> this is probably coz at that time, vinum hasn't started yet.
> 
> GL> Correct.  You should set start_vinum in your rc.conf.
> 
> messenger:/usr/home/rene # cat /etc/rc.conf
> # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf
> # please make all changes to this file.
> 
> # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- #
> gateway_enable="YES"
> nfs_server_enable="YES"
> network_interfaces="xl0 lo0"
> ifconfig_xl0="inet 194.109.23.212 netmask 255.255.255.240"
> defaultrouter="194.109.23.209"
> hostname="messenger"
> domainname="outerheaven.net"
> inetd_enable="NO"
> portmap_enable="NO"
> nfs_client_enable="NO"
> rpc_statd_enable="NO"
> syslogd_flags="-s"
> start_vinum="YES"
> 
> 
> >> for completeness, the line from fstab:
> >>
> >> /dev/vinum/myvol        /mnt/large      ufs     rw,noauto       1       2
> 
> GL> Was that a complete statement?
> 
> I don't quite understand your question...

OK, I'm really begining to get tired of this thread. Can we start
over?

A couple of questions and ideas:

1) What FreeBSD version are you running?

2) What does the dmesg output look like after a boot (before manually
   trying to run anything)? Are there any messages to the screen not
   making it to the dmesg?

3) What does dmesg look like after successfully starting vinum by hand?

4) The 'start_vinum' is set at the end of the rc.conf, is there a
   carriage return after it? Make sure there's a blank line or two to
   be safe (I like to peg a line with '#End' at the end of all of my
   scripts just to be sure).

5) Does vinum try to start before all SCSI devices (HDDs are the
   worry) have settled and been discovered?
-- 
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On Tue, Jan 18, 2000 at 09:36:08PM -0800, Dino Rivera wrote:
> 	
> Please cc: drivera@inktomi.com on the reply.
> 
> Can anyone tell me if the Automount NFS feature rungs on 
> FreeBSD 3.2? I saw no mention of it on the F.A.Q.
> 
> Problem: I'm exploring a filesystem from a Solaris 2.6 server,
> 	and trying to mount it locally on a FreeBSD 3.2 system.
> 
> I know the files that I need to configure are:
> 	/etc/rc.conf
> 	/etc/fstab

For a one time mount, you need not change any files. Just type,

  # mount solaris-machine:/path/to/export /path/on/FreeBSD

In order to mount this automatically at boot time, rc.conf requires no
modification, just a line in fstab(5),

  solaris-machine:/path/to/export  /path/on/FreeBSD  nfs   0 0 

It's typically trickier setting up the exports file and NFS servers on
the server machine.
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Thus spake John (goodleaf@pop.seanet.com):

> I'd like to solicit advice on laptops. What is the best make/model for use
> with FBSD? By best I mean "cleanest most trouble-free install." Just to
> narrow the field a bit, I'm looking for something in the mid to low price
> range, something with enough juice to handle general use with X, and maybe
> some light development tasks.

I use a Dell Inspiron 3500 (now replaced with the 3700), which I'm very happy
with. C366, 64Mb RAM, 4.8Gb HDD. Everything, including sound, is supported
(I'm running 3.2-R).

Reports from others using the Inspiron or Latitude range seem to indicate
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I am running FreeBSD 3.4 on a IBM Thinkpad 600E. 128meg RAM, 10gig HD.
Everything except internal modem and sound works fine. I use a 3com pcmcia
modem and pcmcia LAN card in it.

I am very happy with it. X is great at 1024x768 too :)

On 19-Jan-00 Nick Slager wrote:
> Thus spake John (goodleaf@pop.seanet.com):
> 
>> I'd like to solicit advice on laptops. What is the best make/model for use
>> with FBSD? By best I mean "cleanest most trouble-free install." Just to
>> narrow the field a bit, I'm looking for something in the mid to low price
>> range, something with enough juice to handle general use with X, and maybe
>> some light development tasks.
> 
> I use a Dell Inspiron 3500 (now replaced with the 3700), which I'm very happy
> with. C366, 64Mb RAM, 4.8Gb HDD. Everything, including sound, is supported
> (I'm running 3.2-R).
> 
> Reports from others using the Inspiron or Latitude range seem to indicate
> that the Dell's run FreeBSD quite well.
> 
> 
> Nick.
> 
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Salvo Bartolotta wrote:
> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> 
> On 1/19/00, 1:25:34 AM, R Joseph Wright  wrote
> regarding Re: Which X-window to choose?:
> 
> > > Just to be sure, do you have KDE 1.2 or so?  I know 1.1 theme support
> > > was almost useless.  That's the default that came with my 3.2 CD.  But
> > > the newest version (1.2?) has integrated theme support.  I guess
> > > mandrake just forced 1.1 to work well with themes.
> 
> > I just built 1.1.2.  I could have sworn the first time I used it I had
> > the theme manager.  I don't have it now though.  Kde control center
> > doesn't work at all, it's just an empty window.
> 
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards, Joseph
> 
> Dear Joseph,
> 
> I have made (yet another) copy of my original ports tree (--> .orig) and
> I am probably joining your woes ... that is I am CVSuping right now my
> /usr/ports, just to see what happens with KDE. I will even compare the
> metaports ;-)
> 
> BTW, my KDE themes are just beautiful. Everything works fine in my
> environment.
> 
> However, I am stuck. I can't see why your metaport was NOT made. I'll
> probably discover this in the next few days.
> 
> I hope my "make deinstall:bsd.port.mk" has made clear *why* you are
> right.
> 
> Best regards,
> Salvo

I think I'll follow suit and re- CVSup my ports.  I'll make a very
sincere effort to make that metaport work, dammit >8-\ 
-- 
Best Regards, Joseph

	You will do foolish things,	
     but do them with enthusiasm.  Colette.


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I cant find the area on your site to download
freebsd.  Can you send me a link or URL


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----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Voyce 
To: David Delisle 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 2:25 AM
Subject: Re: Problem with windowmanager


> David;
> I may be having a simular problem. What I see looks almost liker barcode
> where text should be. I have requested help dfrom those on this list but
am
> still
> waiting. please refer to the following --
>
> I Installed the XFree86 3.3.6 software in hopes of using my ATI Rage
> 128.
> The previous release would not work at all for this card.
>
> The good news is that the server starts and initially appears to work.
> However when I startx to KDE 1.1.1 or Windowmaker any windows ie. term,
> netscape, config etc. contain bar code instead of text also when windows
> are moved the section at the top flickers when moving over another
> window. Sometimes text does show but is destroyed upon window movement.
>
> Note -- The XFree86 3.3.6 software and KDE 1.1.1 or Windowmaker work
> fine with my old Diamond Stealth 64 VRAM (S3).
>
> If it looks lke your problem is like mine perhaps we can pool our
resources.
>
> Any way the work around for me was to change Graphics Cards.
>
> Kevin Voyce.
>
Kevin:
yes, we are having the same problem. I'm new to freebsd (1 week), when i
used to run linux, the xserver was ok, no barcodes problem. Now i tried
freebsd, and got this problem, I reinstalled the whole thing because when
it's the first time I install a new OS for me, I like to reinstall it after,
and i got the same problem. I tried to play in windowmaker options, but it's
kinda hard when you cant read... if I install GNOME, you think I'll have the
same problem? Do you think that it's happening because we have low memory? I
have 32mb but my video card is SiS (4mb) so i get 28mb...

David Delisle
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Hi,

This is a shot in the dark, but...

is it possible to nfs mount the /usr/src path to a Linux box and do a buildworldthere?

The reason I'm asking this is that I'm using a 486DX66 with 8 Mb ram for FBSD and buildworld thrashes for 4 days... Not good for my harddisk (:


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Hey there,

Try out:  ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/.2/FreeBSD/releases/i386/

From there, you can choose which release you want to install.  :)

Cheers,
Marc

On Tue, Jan 18, 2000 at 11:05:23PM -0800, Manbir Sangha wrote:
> I cant find the area on your site to download
> freebsd.  Can you send me a link or URL


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If I cvsup with this stable-supfile:

*default host=cvsup.se.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3
*default delete use-rel-suffix
src-all

The actual GUI cvsup seems to go well, except I get 'various' errors
when I later 'cd /usr/src; make buildworld -DNOSECURE'. 

Is this an indication of the downloaded code to be malfunctioning
or is it a problem at my end?

I'm running version 3.1 on this box and the 'cvsup and buildworld' 
sometimes runs OK, sometimes not. If I try long enough ie. every second 
day or so eventually everyting goes OK. But since I'm trying to cvsup
stable, should this not always be the case?

Mostly curious...

/Micke

PS the same scenario happened when cvsupping my 2.2.5 to 2.2.8 at home,
and another 3.1 I work on.

PS2. I have even tried to remove the entire /usr/src, and cvsupped everything
anew, to no avail...

PS3. No I haven't saved the errors, but they seem to appear at no specific
place, from cvsup to cvsup.
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:17:01 +0200, Alwyn Schoeman wrote:

> is it possible to nfs mount the /usr/src path to a Linux box and do a
> buildworldthere?

Marcel Moolenaar  has been doing an enormous amount
of work on getting cross-compiling going in 4.0-CURRENT.

You should ask him what he thinks. :-)

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:01:58 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote:

> > is it possible to nfs mount the /usr/src path to a Linux box and do a
> > buildworldthere?
> 
> Marcel Moolenaar  has been doing an enormous amount
> of work on getting cross-compiling going in 4.0-CURRENT.

I forgot to mention that if you try, I'd love to hear from you, whether
it works or not.  This isn't a guarantee of support, but I'll give it a
bash.  The only thing stopping me from doing this myself is the lack of
a Linux box to play with. :-)

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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I have a laptop that uses PPP to connect to the net, but also, when connected
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> 
> Sic arbiter elegantiarum locutus ... 
> 
> Hmmm, wasn't it M$ who had an absolute mindset ?
> 
> Intelligenti pauca.
> 
Could we please have an online Latin course on the Freebsd website?


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This topic is of interest to me, too, since we are users of Exchange Server.
Not that I have any religious scruples about using Microsoft products, and
in our case, the whole of the internal network is NT, protected from the
outside world by FreeBSD and Sun Solaris and with certain Internet related
server functions (dns, smtp) also on the UNIX battlements.  However, I can
see that a network based on UNIX servers would find it a little OTT to
install one NT machine, with the consequent learning threshold, just for
certain functionality.

What's the problem with using tasks?  Tasks, as far as I can see, is a
client function contained in Outlook, and nothing to do with the server.  I
can find no reference in the Exchange Server help file or Books Online
referring to tasks as a server-based function.

mvh/regards

James

> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: 
> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 3:51 PM
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>
>
> > Does anyone out there know of an emulator, or software package to run on
a
> > FreeBSD box that will allow us to use M$ Exchange Server's "Tasks".
> >     We are currently using M$ Outlook '97/2000 as a POP3 email client to
a
> > FreeBSD box, we would like to utilize M$'s "tasks" option, but surely
> don't
> > want to require Windows NT Server. Any suggestions welcome.
> >
> > Nathan Vidican,
> > Windsor Match Plate & Tool Ltd.
> > unix_usr@fcmail.com/wmptl@mnsi.net
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> I think the document is misleading. The arg 'double' seems to be to write in
> the fastest speed that the drive will support.   I know I write a full CD in
> around 15 minutes on my (4x) HP 8100i drive after specifying "prepdisk double".

This is *great*. Now I don't have to reboot to burn a CD! (I also own a
8110)
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Hi,

I'm trying to access and examine methods of c++ objects on
3.x/4.x boxes using gdb. Gdb seems unable to comply though:

-----------------
(gdb) p bf.geti
Cannot take address of a method
(gdb) p bf.geti()
Cannot resolve method buckfubble::geti to any overloaded instance
-----------------

Anyone know how to get around this. Hard to debug memory corruption
in an object if I can't see what this stuff points to and/or returns.

Thanks in advance,
k.


Here's some sample code that produces the problem for me:
------------------------- 

[weevil] /tmp <182> cat bf.cc 
#include 

class buckfubble
{
public:
    buckfubble( ) {i = 666;}
    ~buckfubble( ) {}

    geti( ) {return i;}

private:

    int i;
};

main()
{
    buckfubble bf;

    printf("i=%d\n", bf.geti());
}
[weevil] /tmp <183> g++ -g3 -O0 bf.cc -o bf
[weevil] /tmp <184> gdb bf
GNU gdb 4.18
Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"...
Dynamic symbol table reloading multiple times in one run is on.

(gdb) b 20
Breakpoint 1 at 0x80486c6: file bf.cc, line 20.
(gdb) r
Starting program: /tmp/bf 

Breakpoint 1, main () at bf.cc:20
20          printf("i=%d\n", bf.geti());
(gdb) p bf.geti
Cannot take address of a method
(gdb) p bf.geti()
Cannot resolve method buckfubble::geti to any overloaded instance
-------------------------------------- 
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Hi,

The stable version isn't very good compared to the unstable branch.  I use
GIMP 1.1.4
(unstable) most of the time and it doesnt cause any problems.  Perhaps the
code is
judged to be quite good?

Chris Smith
Raytheon Systems Limited




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-On [20000119 04:00], David Fuchs (beastie@beastie.net) wrote:
>:( Oops... sorry then, I'll give INN a try.  It's only been 3 days since I
>decided to run a news server.. so I'm still learning.  Thanks a lot for your
>help though, it's greatly appreciated!!

That's ok.

You just happened to be spotted by someone who's doing news
administration for an ISP ;)

But let me re-ask a question I asked, what are your newsserver demands?

Are you a small site whom uses an upstream privuder for news to read a
few groups or are you in need of a full feed (the odd 90-100 GB a day)?

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Scott Hess  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > "Giorgos Keramidas"  wrote:
 >> On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 08:43:57AM -0800, Scott Hess wrote:
 >> | Is there any way for an rfork() process to detect if it's parent process
 >> | has died?  I mean via some sort of asynchronous notification?
 >>
 >> From the manpage of kill(2) we read:
 > 
 > kill( pid, 0) tells me, if I know to ask, "Is this process alive."
 > Unfortunately, the process I want to know that is going to be in a read(),
 > or perhaps a select().  I could arrange for it to poll for the parent
 > process death, but that's going to be fairly inefficient.

You're right, that would be inefficient and "ugly".

There is a better way:  You can arrange to open a pipe() or
socketpair() between the parent and the child process, and
include the file descriptor in your select() FD set (the one
checking for reading).

When the parent process dies, the pipe or socketpair is
closed, and the child's select() returns, telling you that
the file descriptor is ready for reading (which indicates
an EOF).

Regards
   Oliver

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 Hello.

 One of my rules is "log logamount 10 all from 127.0.0.01 to
127.0.0.01". IPFW accepted it, so the syntax's ok. But it doesn't log
when I connect to 127.0.0.1. I created a file (ipfw.log) for this, and
added the needed lines to syslog.conf.

!ppp
*.*     /var/log/ipfw.log

 My ipfw.log file is empty. I searched for "log" in IPFW man page. My
guess is that IPFW rules for logging are not enabled by default. 

Answers? thank you a lot.


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William Woods wrote:
> 
> I have a laptop that uses PPP to connect to the net, but also, when connected
> to my LAN uses my other FreeBSD box as a gateway. in rc.conf there is
> an entry for defaultrouter="192.168.0.2" when I am on the LAN, what would be an
> easy to switch from LAN to ppp dialup without editing rc.conf commenting out
> the default router and rebooting ?

A 'neat' way is to use DHCP when you are on the lan (including letting
it set 
the route, dns and so on) and much the same for PPP. I.e. hardly _any_
network 
settings in rc.conf besides YP, domainname, hostname and so on.

This works for me.

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David Heller  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > [...]
 > Please find below dmesg output and kernel config. Also note doing "usbd -d
 > -f  /dev/usb0 " gives the following output: /dev/usb0 device not configured.
 > The file is there under /dev/usb0.

This is very strange.  The kernel does not even seem to find
your PCI bus, and therefore it does not try to find any devices
on it (USB controllers are PCI devices).

Your kernel configuration looks OK to me.  (I first suspected
that it was missing "controller pci", but it's there.)  It is
most probably a problem with your mainboard and/or its BIOS,
not with FreeBSD.

What kind of mainboard do you have, and what kind of BIOS does
it have?  Please go to the BIOS setup and check if everything
is OK, in particular the configuration of the PCI bus and any
PCI devices.

Other than that, I have no idea what could causing these kinds
of problems, I'm afraid.  Your `dmesg` output looks like your
mainboard does not have any PCI support at all.

Regards
   Oliver

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On Wed, Jan 19, 2000 at 04:28:12AM -0500, m wrote:
> 
>  Hello.
> 
>  One of my rules is "log logamount 10 all from 127.0.0.01 to
> 127.0.0.01". IPFW accepted it, so the syntax's ok. But it doesn't log
> when I connect to 127.0.0.1. I created a file (ipfw.log) for this, and
> added the needed lines to syslog.conf.
> 
> !ppp
> *.*     /var/log/ipfw.log
> 
>  My ipfw.log file is empty. I searched for "log" in IPFW man page. My
> guess is that IPFW rules for logging are not enabled by default. 
> 
> Answers? thank you a lot.
> 
Change "!ppp" to "!ipfw" in /etc/syslog.conf ;=)

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-On [20000119 04:01], lawrence.hy.cheung@philips.com (lawrence.hy.cheung@philips.com) wrote:
>Two days before, I installed a fresh FreeBSD 3.1-Release from offical
>CD-ROM, and then cvsup it as 3.4-STABLE via my low speed 56kps line. I
>didn't install the old verion of XFree86 of course. I want to run
>XFree86 3.3.6! 
>
>At first I install XFree86 3.3.6 by 3.4-STABLE's sysinstall but fail.
>(I discover there is only XFree86 3.3.5 package at
>ftp.cdrom.com/pub/FreeBSD/release/i386/3.4-RELEASE).

Which is kinda logical.  

>Despite to my low speed line, I cannot help to install 3.3.6 by XFree86
>binary distribution method but not by FreeBSD ports method. I do not
>want to wait 2 hours to download two big src.tar.gz and then wait 1.5
>hours again to compile it as well as taking with the risk of failure.

Well, it is the preferred way prior to when packages are available.  And
I have yet to see XFree86's make world die on me, and that's all
releases in the 3.x series.

>So I download any X*.tar.gz I need at ftp.cdrom/com/ pub/XFree86 and
>install it mannually by 

[snip]

>This only take 40min. to complete.
>
>After that, my XFree86 3.3.6 works with no problems until running
>netscape 4.7 navigator. When I launch netscape, it refuse with a error
>message "ld.so -- cannot find libXt.so.6.0"  That is ture , my system
>really have not "libXt.so.6.0" .  At the directory /usr/X11R6/lib, I
>only found libXt.so.6 and it's soft link libXt.so. I try soft link
>"libXt.so.6" to "libXt.so.6.0" but not success.  Now I have no gui
>brower. No matter which native freebsd netscape version I choose from
>ports, the result is the same. May you help me? I need netscape to
>brower english & chinese web page in X.

Well since it asks for libXt.so.6.0 I am assuming that you don't have
a.out libraries installed for XFree and those are needed for Netscape.
So I think you do have to wait until the package gets build by Satoshi
Asami or make it from ports.

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any one could tell me if  3.4-STABLE works fine with nfsd server enabled ?
my nfsd does not work

thanks

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Laurence Berland  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > As some may be aware (from the post that started the rather long
 > volatile variable thread), I am attempting to write an ftp server for a
 > computer science project.  I've gotten most of the code done, only the
 > actual data module needs to be written (the Server-DTP for those
 > familiar with the protocol).  I'm trying to figure out the best way to
 > find a spare port for PASV connections, and was hoping there's a
 > slightly more elegant solution than calling bind and checking for
 > EAADDRINUSE on errno.

That's easy:  If you set the port number to 0, the system
will find a free one for you.  Here's some code for you to
experiment.  It's from an FTP implementation of mine (sorry
for using C++ style comments).

   int socke;      // socket descriptor
   struct sockaddr_in datalisten;
   int llen;       // size of "datalisten"

   //
   //   Try to open a socket for listening to the incoming
   //   data connection.
   //   First get a file descriptor for a TCP socket.
   //

   if ((socke = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, 6)) < 0)
           err (EX_OSERR, "socket()");

   //
   //   Bind a local address to our socket for listening.
   //   To make this easier, we just copy the properties of
   //   the local part of of the existing FTP command/control
   //   connection (this is cmd->fd here).
   //   Setting the port number to zero lets bind() choose
   //   an appropriate port number for us.
   //

   llen = sizeof(datalisten);
   if (getsockname(->fd, (struct sockaddr *) &datalisten, &llen) < 0) {
           close (socke);
           err (EX_OSERR, "getsockname()");
   }
   datalisten.sin_port = 0;	//  <-- !!!
   llen = sizeof(datalisten);
   if (bind(socke, (struct sockaddr *) &datalisten, llen) < 0) {
           close (socke);
           err (EX_OSERR, "bind()");
   }

   //
   //   Find out which port number was assigned to our
   //   socket by bind().
   //

   if (getsockname(socke, (struct sockaddr *) &datalisten, &llen) < 0) {
           close (socke);
           err (EX_OSERR, "getsockname()");
   }

   //
   //   Our portnumber is now in datalisten.sin_port.
   //   Now call listen() etc...
   //


 > I'm expecting my copy of the Stevens book any day
 > now, so hopefully that'll stop my incessant babbling on these lists...

That book will help you a lot.  :)

Regards
   Oliver

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On 19-Jan-00 James A Wilde wrote:


> What's the problem with using tasks?  Tasks, as far as I can see, is a
> client function contained in Outlook, and nothing to do with the server.  I
> can find no reference in the Exchange Server help file or Books Online
> referring to tasks as a server-based function.
> 

MAPI object-ifys everything. a email is a object, an attachment is a object,
a task is a object, even the login credentials is an object.
The the client _and_ the server has to have knowledge of the structure of all
these object classes to store and load; normally thru a common 'mapi.dll', but
the boys from Redmond have been know to break it now and again.

While you can manage your personal tasks with just the Outlook client, some of
the more advanced group scheduling, global address lists, etc requires the
MS-Mail / Exchange server

/* opinion of a recovering MAPI developer; OALA,EGO */

As Microsoft's documentation on extended-MAPI is useless (I suspect they make
it up as they go along), a sane programmer should cower under the desk and
wimper at the thought of anything to do with it.


Regards,
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Hija Crist,

Wednesday, January 19, 2000, 06:46:12, you seem to have written:
CJC> On Tue, Jan 18, 2000 at 05:53:16PM +0100, rene@xs4all.nl wrote:
>> Hija Greg,
>> 
>> Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 12:05:30, you seem to have written:
>> GL> On Monday, 17 January 2000 at 14:17:59 +0100, rene@xs4all.nl wrote:
>> >> Hija Olaf,
>> >>
>> >> Sunday, January 16, 2000, 23:53:48, you seem to have written:
>> >>> On Sun 16 Jan 2000 at 20:54:03 +0100, rene@xs4all.nl wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Since it looks like the only thing that you really do by hand is:
>> >>>
>> >>>> bash-2.02# mount /dev/vinum/myvol /mnt/large
>> >>>
>> >>> putting it in /etc/fstab should be enough. Something like
>> >>>
>> >>> # filesys     mount point       type    access                  dump    fsck
>> >>> # location                              + opts                  freq    pass
>> >>>
>> >>> /dev/vinum/myvol /mnt/large     ffs     rw                      1       2
>> >>>
>> >>> should do it. Unless maybe this tries to mount it too early in the boot
>> >>> sequence. In that case, make it
>> >>>
>> >>> /dev/vinum/myvol /mnt/large     ffs     rw,noauto               1       2
>> >>>
>> >>> so that the initial mount -a will not try to mount it yet, and put the
>> >>> following in /etc/rc.local:
>> >>>
>> >>> mount /mnt/large
>> >>>
>> >>> -Olaf (none of this is vinum-sprecific, by te way).
>> >>
>> >> Thanx for your reply. However, it didn't quite fix it; (after booting)
>> >>
>> >> bash-2.02# mount /mnt/large
>> >> mount: exec mount_ffs not found in /sbin, /usr/sbin: No such file or directory
>> >>
>> >> if I change the type field in /etc/fstab to 'ufs' instead of 'ffs', I
>> >> get a filesystemcheck error; /dev/vinum/rmyvol: device not configured
>> >>
>> >> this is probably coz at that time, vinum hasn't started yet.
>> 
>> GL> Correct.  You should set start_vinum in your rc.conf.
>> 
>> messenger:/usr/home/rene # cat /etc/rc.conf
>> # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf
>> # please make all changes to this file.
>> 
>> # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- #
>> gateway_enable="YES"
>> nfs_server_enable="YES"
>> network_interfaces="xl0 lo0"
>> ifconfig_xl0="inet 194.109.23.212 netmask 255.255.255.240"
>> defaultrouter="194.109.23.209"
>> hostname="messenger"
>> domainname="outerheaven.net"
>> inetd_enable="NO"
>> portmap_enable="NO"
>> nfs_client_enable="NO"
>> rpc_statd_enable="NO"
>> syslogd_flags="-s"
>> start_vinum="YES"
>> 
>> 
>> >> for completeness, the line from fstab:
>> >>
>> >> /dev/vinum/myvol        /mnt/large      ufs     rw,noauto       1       2
>> 
>> GL> Was that a complete statement?
>> 
>> I don't quite understand your question...

CJC> OK, I'm really begining to get tired of this thread. Can we start
CJC> over?

sure, but most of the info you requested I posted already, earlier in
the thread.

CJC> A couple of questions and ideas:

CJC> 1) What FreeBSD version are you running?
bash-2.02# uname -a
FreeBSD messenger 3.2-STABLE FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #3: Mon Dec 13 18:59:30 CET 1999
nger:/usr/src/sys/compile/MESSENGER-EXPERIMENTAL  i386



CJC> 2) What does the dmesg output look like after a boot (before manually
CJC>    trying to run anything)? Are there any messages to the screen not
CJC>    making it to the dmesg?

bash-2.02# dmesg
Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc.
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #3: Mon Dec 13 18:59:30 CET 1999
    rene@messenger:/usr/src/sys/compile/MESSENGER-EXPERIMENTAL
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 233864315 Hz
CPU: Pentium/P55C (233.86-MHz 586-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x543  Stepping=3
  Features=0x8001bf
real memory  = 67043328 (65472K bytes)
avail memory = 62291968 (60832K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02c8000.
Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
chip0:  rev 0x04 on pci0.0.0
chip1:  rev 0x04 on pci0.1.0
chip2:  rev 0x00 on pci0.3.0
chip3:  rev 0xc3 on pci0.7.0
ahc0:  rev 0x00 int a irq 5 on pci0.10.0
ahc0: aic7880 Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs
vga0:  rev 0x01 int a irq 12 on pci0.11.0
xl0: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> rev 0x30 int a irq 10 on pci0.12.0
xl0: Ethernet address: 00:10:5a:c0:33:b3
xl0: autoneg complete, link status good (half-duplex, 100Mbps)
ide_pci0:  rev 0xc1 int a irq 0 on pci0.15.0
Probing for devices on PCI bus 1:
Probing for PnP devices:
CSN 1 Vendor ID: TCM5095 [0x95506d50] Serial 0xaf92f149 Comp ID: @@@0000 [0x00000000]
Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
sc0 on isa
sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard
atkbd0 irq 1 on isa
psm0 not found
sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa
sio1: type 16550A
fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa
wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): 
wd0: 9671MB (19807200 sectors), 19650 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S
wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): 
wd1: 9671MB (19807200 sectors), 19650 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S
wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 flags 0xa0ffa0ff on isa
wdc1: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, iordy
acd0: drive speed 689KB/sec, 128KB cache
acd0: supported read types: CD-DA
acd0: Audio: play, 128 volume levels
acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray
acd0: Medium: CD-ROM unknown medium, unlocked
wt0 not found at 0x300
mcd0 not found at 0x300
matcdc0 not found at 0x230
scd0 not found at 0x230
ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa
ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/7 bytes threshold
lpt0:  on ppbus 0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0:  on ppbus 0
plip0:  on ppbus 0
1 3C5x9 board(s) on ISA found at 0x300
ep0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa
ep0: utp[*UTP*] address 00:20:af:92:f1:49
vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa
npx0 on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
ccd0-3: Concatenated disk drivers
Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
changing root device to da0s1a
da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
da0:  Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da0: 2063MB (4226725 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 263C)
da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0
da1:  Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
da1: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da1: 8715MB (17850000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1111C)
WARNING: / was not properly dismounted

Extra Messages: yes, about /dev/vinum/rmyvol not being checkable. Get
dumped in /bin/sh, to fix it myself. Exit the shell, which bypasses
/etc/fstab disk-checks.mou

CJC> 3) What does dmesg look like after successfully starting vinum by hand?

bash-2.02# vinum start

bash-2.02# dmesg
Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc.
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #3: Mon Dec 13 18:59:30 CET 1999
    rene@messenger:/usr/src/sys/compile/MESSENGER-EXPERIMENTAL
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 233864315 Hz
CPU: Pentium/P55C (233.86-MHz 586-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x543  Stepping=3
  Features=0x8001bf
real memory  = 67043328 (65472K bytes)
avail memory = 62291968 (60832K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02c8000.
Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
chip0:  rev 0x04 on pci0.0.0
chip1:  rev 0x04 on pci0.1.0
chip2:  rev 0x00 on pci0.3.
chip3:  rev 0xc3 on pci0.7.0
ahc0:  rev 0x00 int a irq 5 on pci0.10.0
ahc0: aic7880 Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs
vga0:  rev 0x01 int a irq 12 on pci0
xl0: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> rev 0x30 int a irq 10 on pci0.12.
xl0: Ethernet address: 00:10:5a:c0:33:b3
xl0: autoneg complete, link status good (half-duplex, 100Mbps)
ide_pci0:  rev 0xc1
n pci0.15.0
Probing for devices on PCI bus 1:
Probing for PnP devices:
CSN 1 Vendor ID: TCM5095 [0x95506d50] Serial 0xaf92f149 Comp ID: @@@0000
Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
sc0 on isa
sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard
atkbd0 irq 1 on isa
psm0 not found
sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa
sio1: type 16550A
fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa
wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): 
wd0: 9671MB (19807200 sectors), 19650 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S
wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): 
wd1: 9671MB (19807200 sectors), 19650 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S
wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 flags 0xa0ffa0ff on isa
wdc1: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, iordy
acd0: drive speed 689KB/sec, 128KB cache
acd0: supported read types: CD-DA
acd0: Audio: play, 128 volume levels
acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray
acd0: Medium: CD-ROM unknown medium, unlocked
wt0 not found at 0x300
mcd0 not found at 0x300
matcdc0 not found at 0x230
scd0 not found at 0x230
ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa
ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/7 bytes threshold
lpt0:  on ppbus 0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0:  on ppbus 0
plip0:  on ppbus 0
1 3C5x9 board(s) on ISA found at 0x300
ep0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa
ep0: utp[*UTP*] address 00:20:af:92:f1:49
vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa
npx0 on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
ccd0-3: Concatenated disk drivers
Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
changing root device to da0s1a
da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
da0:  Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da0: 2063MB (4226725 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 263C)
da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0
da1:  Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
da1: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da1: 8715MB (17850000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1111C)
WARNING: / was not properly dismounted
vinum: loaded
vinum: reading configuration from /dev/wd1d
vinum: updating configuration from /dev/wd0d
vinum: updating configuration from /dev/da1d

bash-2.02# df
Filesystem  1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/da0s1a     31743    24385     4819    83%    /
procfs              4        4        0   100%    /proc
/dev/da0s1f   1853547   631971  1073293    37%    /usr
/dev/da0s1e     29751     2785    24586    10%    /var

bash-2.02# mount /mnt/large

bash-2.02# df
Filesystem       1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/da0s1a          31743    24385     4819    83%    /
procfs                   4        4        0   100%    /proc
/dev/da0s1f        1853547   631971  1073293    37%    /usr
/dev/da0s1e          29751     2785    24586    10%    /var
/dev/vinum/myvol  27847756        1 25619935     0%    /mnt/large



CJC> 4) The 'start_vinum' is set at the end of the rc.conf, is there a
CJC>    carriage return after it? Make sure there's a blank line or two to
CJC>    be safe (I like to peg a line with '#End' at the end of all of my
CJC>    scripts just to be sure).

There was. Appended your '#end' line anyway.

CJC> 5) Does vinum try to start before all SCSI devices (HDDs are the
CJC>    worry) have settled and been discovered?

Don't quite know. Could be possible.


Greetings,
 rene 




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Hi

I have a little ? to you guys.  In LINT they say, if I enable this option,
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So far, the steps are:

make depend && make && make install

Seems that if I compile the kernel the fist time, make clean is
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Please reply asap, I want to recompile my kerkel tonight ;-)

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Would someone please try to shed some light on a couple of  ppp issues

The following is part of the ppp.log from a gateway box thats been in a
location
which has experienced a bunch of electricity supply problems lately and
maybe
hasn't helped not having a UPS. The box is an "oldie but a goodie" Unisys
386
with 16Mb RAM / 120Mb hard drive / FreeBSD 3.2 (so not a lot of spare room)

Firstly ..... WTF does "clearing choked output queue" imply, and how to fix
it ??

Secondly ...... What does "HDLC errors" means ??

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Jan 18 02:50:37 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Carrier lost
Jan 18 02:50:37 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: open -> lcp
Jan 18 02:50:37 pash ppp[204]: Phase: bundle: Terminate
Jan 18 02:50:37 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
Jan 18 02:50:37 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: lcp -> hangup
Jan 18 02:50:37 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 16236 secs:
5997253 octets in, 495610 octets out
Jan 18 02:50:37 pash ppp[204]: Phase:  total 399 bytes/sec, peak 4304
bytes/sec on Tue Jan 18 02:50:37 2000
Jan 18 02:50:37 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: hangup -> opening
Jan 18 02:50:37 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Enter pause (3) for
redialing.
Jan 18 02:50:40 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Redial timer expired.
Jan 18 02:50:40 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
Jan 18 02:50:40 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
Jan 18 02:50:40 pash ppp[204]: Phase: Phone: XXXX XXXX
Jan 18 02:50:46 pash ppp[204]: Warning: Chat script failed
Jan 18 02:50:46 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: dial -> hangup
Jan 18 02:50:46 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
Jan 18 02:50:46 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 6 secs: 0
octets in, 0 octets out
Jan 18 02:50:46 pash ppp[204]: Phase:  total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0 bytes/sec
on Tue Jan 18 02:50:46 2000
Jan 18 02:50:46 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: hangup -> opening
Jan 18 02:50:46 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Enter pause (30) for
redialing.
Jan 18 02:51:16 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Redial timer expired.
Jan 18 02:51:16 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
Jan 18 02:51:16 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
Jan 18 02:51:16 pash ppp[204]: Phase: Phone: XXXX XXXX
Jan 18 02:51:22 pash ppp[204]: Warning: Chat script failed
Jan 18 02:51:22 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: dial -> hangup
Jan 18 02:51:22 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
Jan 18 02:51:22 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 6 secs: 0
octets in, 0 octets out
Jan 18 02:51:22 pash ppp[204]: Phase:  total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0 bytes/sec
on Tue Jan 18 02:51:22 2000
Jan 18 02:51:22 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: hangup -> opening
Jan 18 02:51:22 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Enter pause (30) for
redialing.
Jan 18 02:51:52 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Redial timer expired.
Jan 18 02:51:52 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
Jan 18 02:51:52 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
Jan 18 02:51:52 pash ppp[204]: Phase: Phone: XXXX XXXX
Jan 18 02:52:24 pash ppp[204]: Warning: Chat script failed
Jan 18 02:52:24 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: dial -> hangup
Jan 18 02:52:24 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
Jan 18 02:52:24 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 32 secs: 0
octets in, 0 octets out
Jan 18 02:52:24 pash ppp[204]: Phase:  total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0 bytes/sec
on Tue Jan 18 02:52:24 2000
Jan 18 02:52:25 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: hangup -> opening
Jan 18 02:52:25 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Enter pause (30) for
redialing.
Jan 18 02:52:54 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Redial timer expired.
Jan 18 02:52:54 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
Jan 18 02:52:54 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
Jan 18 02:52:54 pash ppp[204]: Phase: Phone: XXXX XXXX
Jan 18 02:53:20 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: dial -> login
Jan 18 02:53:21 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: login -> lcp
Jan 18 02:53:23 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: lcp -> open
Jan 18 02:53:23 pash ppp[204]: Phase: bundle: Network

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Jan 18 11:54:30 pash ppp[204]: Phase: Clearing choked output queue
Jan 18 11:56:42 pash ppp[204]: Phase: Clearing choked output queue
Jan 18 11:59:20 pash ppp[204]: Phase: Clearing choked output queue
Jan 18 12:09:28 pash last message repeated 4 times
Jan 18 12:17:58 pash last message repeated 2 times
Jan 18 12:26:51 pash last message repeated 2 times
Jan 18 12:36:26 pash last message repeated 2 times
Jan 18 12:46:27 pash last message repeated 2 times
Jan 18 12:55:19 pash last message repeated 2 times
Jan 18 13:08:22 pash last message repeated 3 times
Jan 18 13:16:56 pash last message repeated 2 times
Jan 18 13:27:55 pash last message repeated 2 times
Jan 18 13:36:48 pash last message repeated 2 times
Jan 18 13:45:19 pash last message repeated 2 times
Jan 18 13:56:28 pash last message repeated 2 times
Jan 18 14:09:28 pash last message repeated 3 times

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Jan 18 14:10:18 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Carrier lost
Jan 18 14:10:18 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: open -> lcp
Jan 18 14:10:18 pash ppp[204]: Phase: bundle: Terminate
Jan 18 14:10:18 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
Jan 18 14:10:18 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: lcp -> hangup
Jan 18 14:10:18 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 40644 secs:
455531 octets in, 386168 octets out
Jan 18 14:10:18 pash ppp[204]: Phase:  total 20 bytes/sec, peak 4298
bytes/sec on Tue Jan 18 14:10:18 2000
Jan 18 14:10:18 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: hangup -> opening
Jan 18 14:10:18 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Enter pause (3) for
redialing.
Jan 18 14:10:21 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Redial timer expired.
Jan 18 14:10:21 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
Jan 18 14:10:21 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
Jan 18 14:10:21 pash ppp[204]: Phase: Phone: XXXX XXXX
Jan 18 14:10:27 pash ppp[204]: Warning: Chat script failed
Jan 18 14:10:27 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: dial -> hangup
Jan 18 14:10:27 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
Jan 18 14:10:27 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 6 secs: 0
octets in, 0 octets out
Jan 18 14:10:27 pash ppp[204]: Phase:  total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0 bytes/sec
on Tue Jan 18 14:10:27 2000
Jan 18 14:10:27 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: hangup -> opening
Jan 18 14:10:27 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Enter pause (30) for
redialing.
Jan 18 14:10:56 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Redial timer expired.
Jan 18 14:10:56 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
Jan 18 14:10:56 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
Jan 18 14:10:56 pash ppp[204]: Phase: Phone: XXXX XXXX
Jan 18 14:11:23 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: dial -> login
Jan 18 14:11:23 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: login -> lcp
Jan 18 14:11:23 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: lcp -> open
Jan 18 14:11:23 pash ppp[204]: Phase: bundle: Network

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Jan 18 14:12:24 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: HDLC errors -> FCS: 1,
ADDR: 0, COMD: 0, PROTO: 0

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Jan 19 09:30:47 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Carrier lost
Jan 19 09:30:47 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: open -> lcp
Jan 19 09:30:47 pash ppp[204]: Phase: bundle: Terminate
Jan 19 09:30:47 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
Jan 19 09:30:47 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: lcp -> hangup
Jan 19 09:30:47 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 69591 secs:
2857632 octets in, 1181740 octets out
Jan 19 09:30:47 pash ppp[204]: Phase:  total 58 bytes/sec, peak 4256
bytes/sec on Wed Jan 19 09:30:47 2000
Jan 19 09:30:47 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: hangup -> opening
Jan 19 09:30:47 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Enter pause (3) for
redialing.
Jan 19 09:30:50 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Redial timer expired.
Jan 19 09:30:50 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
Jan 19 09:30:50 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
Jan 19 09:30:50 pash ppp[204]: Phase: Phone: XXXX XXXX
Jan 19 09:31:16 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: dial -> login
Jan 19 09:31:16 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: login -> lcp
Jan 19 09:31:17 pash ppp[204]: Phase: deflink: lcp -> open
Jan 19 09:31:17 pash ppp[204]: Phase: bundle: Network

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Jan 19 17:49:11 pash ppp[204]: Phase: Clearing choked output queue
Jan 19 17:51:23 pash ppp[204]: Phase: Clearing choked output queue
Jan 19 17:53:56 pash ppp[204]: Phase: Clearing choked output queue
Jan 19 18:04:05 pash last message repeated 4 times
Jan 19 18:10:49 pash last message repeated 2 times
Jan 19 18:21:45 pash last message repeated 2 times
Jan 19 18:30:38 pash last message repeated 2 times
Jan 19 18:43:41 pash last message repeated 3 times
Jan 19 18:52:14 pash last message repeated 2 times
Jan 19 19:03:14 pash last message repeated 2 times
Jan 19 19:11:45 pash last message repeated 2 times
Jan 19 19:20:38 pash last message repeated 2 times
Jan 19 19:31:21 pash last message repeated 2 times
Jan 19 19:40:14 pash last message repeated 2 times
Jan 19 19:53:24 pash last message repeated 3 times
Jan 19 20:00:58 pash last message repeated 2 times
Jan 19 20:14:09 pash last message repeated 3 times
Jan 19 20:22:36 pash last message repeated 2 times

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Jan 19 20:34:34 pash ppp[201]: Phase: Using interface: tun0
Jan 19 20:34:34 pash ppp[201]: Phase: deflink: Created in closed state
Jan 19 20:34:34 pash ppp[202]: Phase: PPP Started (ddial mode).
Jan 19 20:34:35 pash ppp[202]: Phase: bundle: Establish
Jan 19 20:34:35 pash ppp[202]: Phase: deflink: closed -> opening
Jan 19 20:34:35 pash ppp[202]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
Jan 19 20:34:35 pash ppp[202]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
Jan 19 20:34:35 pash ppp[202]: Phase: Phone: XXXX XXXX
Jan 19 20:35:01 pash ppp[202]: Phase: deflink: dial -> login
Jan 19 20:35:01 pash ppp[202]: Phase: deflink: login -> lcp
Jan 19 20:35:02 pash ppp[202]: Phase: deflink: lcp -> open
Jan 19 20:35:02 pash ppp[202]: Phase: bundle: Network







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Hi.

I have a problem (i think) in kde's lock. When I lock the screen on kde
using an ordinary user I can't unlock the screen back. It always says
I've typed a wrong password (okay, it's more reticent, it says "Failed")
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What can I do?

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Hello All!

In LINT they say that to have ATAPI support (for CDROM), I have to have
these lines (among others):

options         ATAPI                   # Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus
options         ATAPI_STATIC            # Don't do it as an LKM

So, that's in case I want to have ATAPI support compiled into kernel.  And
if I want it be kernel module?  Should I live ATAPI on, or I can get rid
of both of them?

Thanx.

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If I remember correctly there was a problem with the kde 1.1.2 tree when
it was first released.  I think the problem had something to do with the
kscreensaver not being setuid.  Try and set it setuid, and if not,
you might want to cvsup and rebuild.  :)

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Marc


On Wed, Jan 19, 2000 at 10:14:49AM -0300, Mauricio Westendorff Pegoraro wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> I have a problem (i think) in kde's lock. When I lock the screen on kde
> using an ordinary user I can't unlock the screen back. It always says
> I've typed a wrong password (okay, it's more reticent, it says "Failed")
> even when I type the right password. This problem doesn't occurs with
> root user.
> What can I do?
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> MauricioWP
> 
> 
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I plan to get rif from Microsoft product in the next time.It is clear how
I can swap the disks.But I do not know how is it about boot manager.
Obviously I will not need it for starting Windows or FreeBSD deliberately.
So I would like to get rid from it also.Is it possible?If yes -how?
Else what are the proposed alternatives ? Btw is it reinstalable then ?
Maybe I will install BeOS some time in mid-term future and so need it
again.Will it support booting of BeOS?


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Albin Stigo  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > I would like some info. about the /boot/loader.conf file. Is the q at the
 > end needed?

Yes, otherwise you'll be left at the config prompt after the
script has been executed.  You can try it.

 > can I remove the file if I don't need to change any drivers?

Yes.

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Alexey N. Dokuchaev  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > I have a little ? to you guys.  In LINT they say, if I enable this option,
 > I have to make clean.
 > 
 > So far, the steps are:
 > 
 > make depend && make && make install
 > 
 > Seems that if I compile the kernel the fist time, make clean is
 > irrelevant.  Is this true?

Yes, that's tru.

 > Anyways, how should my make-sequence
 > considering make clean?

I'd recommend to use ``config -r YOURKERNEL'', which will
remove any previous kernel build directory completely.
This is probably the most secure way.

Then just do the usual make depend && make && make install.

Regards
   Oliver

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Hello,

beware of the "native" FreeBSD version of Communicator 4.7 : I could not have it run on my newest 3.4-Stable+Xfree86336 install.

I have been saved by the Linux emulator and the linux version of Netscape, which seems a lot more reliable.

     TfH





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-On [20000119 04:01], lawrence.hy.cheung@philips.com (lawrence.hy.cheung@philips.com) wrote:
[SNIP]

>This only take 40min. to complete.
>
>After that, my XFree86 3.3.6 works with no problems until running
>netscape 4.7 navigator. When I launch netscape, it refuse with a error
>message "ld.so -- cannot find libXt.so.6.0"  That is ture , my system
>really have not "libXt.so.6.0" .  At the directory /usr/X11R6/lib, I
>only found libXt.so.6 and it's soft link libXt.so. I try soft link
>"libXt.so.6" to "libXt.so.6.0" but not success.  Now I have no gui
>brower. No matter which native freebsd netscape version I choose from
>ports, the result is the same. May you help me? I need netscape to
>brower english & chinese web page in X.

[re-SNIP]




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On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:21:22 +0600, "Alexey N. Dokuchaev" wrote:

> In LINT they say that to have ATAPI support (for CDROM), I have to have
> these lines (among others):
> 
> options         ATAPI                   # Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus
> options         ATAPI_STATIC            # Don't do it as an LKM
> 
> So, that's in case I want to have ATAPI support compiled into kernel.  And
> if I want it be kernel module?

There's not much point in doing it as a module, since a CDROM isn't
something you spend your life plugging in and unplugging. :-)

> Should I live ATAPI on, or I can get rid
> of both of them?

Leave 'em both in. :-)

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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Hi,

I'm running 3.4-RELEASE and keep seeing thins like this pop up into my log
files:

syslog:Jan 19 09:15:00 s02 /USR/SBIN/CRON[703]: login_getclass: retrieving
class information: Permission denied

sshd:Jan 19 09:12:21 s02 sshd[688]: login_getclass: retrieving class
information: Permission denied

I've checked permissions on stuff like login.conf, login.conf.db, etc, and
I can't seem to find anything wrong. I have other very similar FreeBSD
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Hello,

Trying to build mozilla port M12, on a -stable system supped last
week, port collection also supped last week.  It dies with:

configure:5765: checking for libIDL-config
configure:5800: checking for libIDL - version >= 0.6.3
(end of "config.log")
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.

Has anyone else seen this?

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Michael


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-On [20000119 10:44], Micke Josefsson (mj@isy.liu.se) wrote:
>If I cvsup with this stable-supfile:
>
>*default host=cvsup.se.FreeBSD.org
>*default base=/usr
>*default prefix=/usr
>*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3
>*default delete use-rel-suffix
>src-all
>
>The actual GUI cvsup seems to go well, except I get 'various' errors
>when I later 'cd /usr/src; make buildworld -DNOSECURE'. 

Without the errors messages this is very hard to say.

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-On [20000119 15:09], Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr (Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr) wrote:
>
>beware of the "native" FreeBSD version of Communicator 4.7 : I could
>not have it run on my newest 3.4-Stable+Xfree86336 install.

I cannot at the moment verify this since I run 3.4-STABLE with 3.3.5 and
CURRENT with 3.3.5 and with the native Netscape.

I need to test XFree 3.3.6 in this aspect (just fetched the sources last
night).

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hi,

On Tue, Jan 18, 2000 at 11:42:19PM +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote:
> -On [20000118 19:25], Oleg Votincev (oleg@gw.bummash.udmnet.ru) wrote:
> >????????????!
> >? ???? ??? ????? ??????
> >??? ????? ????? ???????????? ????????? ?? ?????? FreeBSD 3.2 ?
> >??? ????? ?? ???? ????????? ???????? ????? .
> >????  ????? ??????.
> 
> Please don't send Russian messages to this list.

äÁ, ÖÅÌÁÔÅÌØÎÏ ×ÓÅ ÐÉÓØÍÁ ÎÁ ÒÕÓÓËÏÍ ÎÁÐÒÁ×ÌÑÔØ ÎÁ ÁÄÒÅÓ
ru-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ru

> There is a russian mailinglist available if you need help in Russian if
> you think your english is not up to the task.
> 
> But I cannot find the addresses on the freebsd.org site.  Am I being
> blind here Alexey?  Or did the Russian group never added their address
> to the webpages?

Oops. It missing from http://www/support.html, and I will add it soon.
But there some information present at www/docproj/translations.html#russian

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-On [20000119 15:09], kiet nguyen (kietcn@hotmail.com) wrote:
>I was researching for an internet OS and found this to be very strong but 
>when I browsed through the apache.org and found that this site is listed as 
>using the apache server.  I am trying to understand how you incorporate the 
>apache server onto your own.  Please clear this up for me.

Apache is a daemon (a server process) which runs ``on top'' of your OS.

So FreeBSD is the OS and runs Apache as a webserver to service HTTP
requests.  (For a Windows comparison, NT plus IIS.)

In /usr/ports/www/apache* we have a few apache ports which will download
and install apache for you, which you can then configure for your own
webserver needs.

Hope this clarifies a bit,

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Hi Jonathon,

On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

> Ever notice how when you are using the menus on netscape, sometimes
> the choice under the pointer is highlighted, along with pop-up
> sub-menus, and other times you have to click?  I can't duplicate it.  
> It seems totally inconsistent..

Yep - it's annoying.  I've found you can MAKE it highlight by moving to an
entry that has a submenu.  I don't know why this works either, but it
seems to work consistently for me.  YMMV!

:-)

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"Oliver Fromme"  wrote:
> Scott Hess  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
>  > "Giorgos Keramidas"  wrote:
>  >> On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 08:43:57AM -0800, Scott Hess wrote:
>  >> | Is there any way for an rfork() process to detect if it's parent
process
>  >> | has died?  I mean via some sort of asynchronous notification?
>  >>
>  >> From the manpage of kill(2) we read:
>  >
>  > kill( pid, 0) tells me, if I know to ask, "Is this process alive."
>  > Unfortunately, the process I want to know that is going to be in a
read(),
>  > or perhaps a select().  I could arrange for it to poll for the parent
>  > process death, but that's going to be fairly inefficient.
>
> You're right, that would be inefficient and "ugly".
>
> There is a better way:  You can arrange to open a pipe() or
> socketpair() between the parent and the child process, and
> include the file descriptor in your select() FD set (the one
> checking for reading).

I may not have been complete enough in my description.  I'm using rfork()
_without_ RFFDG or RFCFDG.  This means that the parent and child share file
descriptor tables.  That means that the above fix won't work, because even
if the parent process exits, the pipe will still be open on both ends (as
long as one or more children live), so you'll never detect EOF.

I suspect that this also means that most file descriptor based tricks won't
work, because of the shared file descriptor table.

Later,
scott




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Hi,

At least your Netscape works 'relatively' properly.  Mine wont allow
colo(u)r selection in any of the dialogs plus the tab controls dont work!
I have to tread very carefully also, because it 'Bus Errors' on certain
pages (inconsistently).  Lovely piece of software :-)

Chris Smith
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hi i just wanted to ask if the GeForce 256 bit graphic
card is supported by FreeBSD or not , and if yes where
do i go to get the drivers 
another question is that do FreeBSD support USB ?
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Hi,

GeForce 256 2D is supported on snapshots of XFree86 3.9.x and possibly
3.3.6 (I havent installed it yet).  I dont know about OpenGL support, but
that should come soon.  Nvidia - the GeForce chipset manufacturer - are
apparently working with Precision Insight on this.  Basically - it's not
FreeBSD that supports the GeForce, it's the Xfree86 project.

USB is supported but I've never used it.  I should do someday.  Wait for
other postings on this.

More info on possible GeForce 256 at:

http://www.xfree86.org

Check the current release (3.3.6) and the development (3.9.xx)

Hope this helps

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Hi

On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr wrote:

> beware of the "native" FreeBSD version of Communicator 4.7 : I could
> not have it run on my newest 3.4-Stable+Xfree86336 install.

Why?  I'm running it right now and it runs fine.  Stable too as long as
Java and Javascript are turned off.

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>I am having problem getting majordomo to send mail to a list; the
>only odd thing that I found was in /var/log/maillog
>mail is being archived and digested properly and subscribe, unsubscribe
>and administrative commands work OK; the only exception is the "clone"
>thing that I see in /var/log/maillog when message is sent to the list.
>in /var/log/maillog:
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>What this "clone" thing in the maillog?
>Why am I not seeing messages in the list?

The clone message is caused by the presence of an owner-  alias, which
causes sendmail to change the smtp envelope from address to the value
of the owner-  alias.  owner=owner-mission is kind of strange, though.
Do you have an alias that says "owner-mission: owner-mission" ?

Also the message has to go _somewhere_.  These log entries don't show
a final delivery happening.  Are there any accompanying log entries
containing "to=whatever" and "stat=Sent" or stat=queued" ?  Also do
you get anything interesting from the 'mailq' command?

I won't claim to be a majordomo expert.  I do use parts of an old
version of it with the lists I run, but I haven't looked at recent
versions and it's been years since I've read the docs.  You will no
doubt get better help with questions specific to majordomo from the
majordomo-users list, which last I knew was at greatcircle.com.  Check
the majordomo docs if that's not its current location.

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Dear list:

I have a home RFC1918 net linked to the world via a FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE
gateway/NAT/IPFW box.  I'm tired of my clocks being off by hours from each
other so I did some research and discovered NTP.

I found NTP clients for my Novell and M$ boxen.  I figured I'd use ntpdate
on my FreeBSD workstations.  I also figured I'd use ntpdate **AND** xntpd
on my gateway/NAT/IPFW box.  That way, I figured, my gateway/firewall box
would get the time from a reliable time source and then the rest of my
boxes would look to it for their time source.  Sounded good.

Until I read this in man ntpdate:  "Ntpdate will decline to set the date
if an NTP server (e.g. xntpd(8)) is running on the same host".

So, what should I do?  It didn't/doesn't make sense to me to have all of
my worksatations use internet bandwidth to check time; better to have one
check the time and the the rest get their time from it.

What am I missing, conceptually?  What are my alternatives?  Is their a
NTP proxy I could run on my firewall?

TIA,

-Sean Noonan
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On my home machine, it **systematically** dumps core each time I close a subwindow. This machine is a very recently installed and upgraded -Stable machine (with the latest Xfree 336 compiled from the ports)

     TfH



Hi

On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr wrote:

> beware of the "native" FreeBSD version of Communicator 4.7 : I could
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Why?  I'm running it right now and it runs fine.  Stable too as long as
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>I also figured I'd use ntpdate **AND** xntpd
>on my gateway/NAT/IPFW box.  That way, I figured, my gateway/firewall box
>would get the time from a reliable time source and then the rest of my
>boxes would look to it for their time source.  Sounded good.

Yes.


>Until I read this in man ntpdate:  "Ntpdate will decline to set the date
>if an NTP server (e.g. xntpd(8)) is running on the same host".

A typical setup is to run ntpdate once during boot-up to make sure your
clock is right, and then start xntpd to keep it right.  Your plan to
then use the gateway machine to serve time for the lan is perfectly
reasonable.

-Mitch


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On 19-Jan-00 Sean Noonan wrote:
> Dear list:
> 
> I have a home RFC1918 net linked to the world via a FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE
> gateway/NAT/IPFW box.  I'm tired of my clocks being off by hours from each
> other so I did some research and discovered NTP.
> 
> I found NTP clients for my Novell and M$ boxen.  I figured I'd use ntpdate
> on my FreeBSD workstations.  I also figured I'd use ntpdate **AND** xntpd
> on my gateway/NAT/IPFW box.  That way, I figured, my gateway/firewall box
> would get the time from a reliable time source and then the rest of my
> boxes would look to it for their time source.  Sounded good.
> 
> Until I read this in man ntpdate:  "Ntpdate will decline to set the date
> if an NTP server (e.g. xntpd(8)) is running on the same host".
> 
> So, what should I do?  It didn't/doesn't make sense to me to have all of
> my worksatations use internet bandwidth to check time; better to have one
> check the time and the the rest get their time from it.
> 
> What am I missing, conceptually?  What are my alternatives?  Is their a
> NTP proxy I could run on my firewall?
> 

at boot run ntpdate to set your clock, then xntpd to keep in sync.

/etc/rc.conf:
-------------------
ntpdate_enable="YES"             
ntpdate_program="ntpdate"       
ntpdate_flags="tick.usno.navy.mil tock.usno.navy.mil"  
xntpd_enable="YES"              
xntpd_program="xntpd"           

/etc/ntp.conf:
-------------------
server ntp.psi.net
server chisos.ots.utexas.edu
server norad.arc.nasa.gov 
peer   my.local.boxen.com

driftfile   /etc/ntp.drift



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---
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EDP Manager                                            dread@texas.net
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Dear sir,

I have a RAID Card and I would like to install it to my FreeBSD mail server.
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Hello!

Does FreeBSD 3.4 support IDE drives >32GB?

More specifically:  I have a Packard Bell P100 mini-tower that I have a
Maxtor 36GB IDE drive in.  The PB has an Intel IDE chipset (triton).  The
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drive) but the first time I try to write information to the drive (make a
directory, touch a file, etc etc) the kernel panics and the fs is
corrupted...

Any Ideas?
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Hi, I've got a problem with a bad block on one of my drives.

Here's what I get from fsck:

** /dev/rwd1s1e
** Last Mounted on /old
** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes

CANNOT READ: BLK 2492112
CONTINUE? [yn] y

THE FOLLOWING DISK SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 2492190, 2492191,
** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames
** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity
** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts
** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups
8031 files, 456410 used, 5519467 free (7379 frags, 689011 blocks, 0.1%
fragmentation)

***** FILE SYSTEM STILL DIRTY *****

***** PLEASE RERUN FSCK *****

Any help would be appreciated.

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----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: Filesystem Error, Please help!


> 
> Hi, I've got a problem with a bad block on one of my drives.
> 
> Here's what I get from fsck:

are you doing this in a single user mode?

> ** /dev/rwd1s1e
> ** Last Mounted on /old
> ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes
> 
> CANNOT READ: BLK 2492112
> CONTINUE? [yn] y
> 
> THE FOLLOWING DISK SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 2492190, 2492191,
> ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames
> ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity
> ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts
> ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups
> 8031 files, 456410 used, 5519467 free (7379 frags, 689011 blocks, 0.1%
> fragmentation)
> 
> ***** FILE SYSTEM STILL DIRTY *****
> 
> ***** PLEASE RERUN FSCK *****
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dave
> 
> 
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From: Dan Nelson 
To: Dino Rivera 
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In the last episode (Jan 18), Dino Rivera said:
> Please cc: drivera@inktomi.com on the reply.
> 
> Can anyone tell me if the Automount NFS feature rungs on FreeBSD 3.2?
> I saw no mention of it on the F.A.Q.
> 
> Problem: I'm exploring a filesystem from a Solaris 2.6 server,
> 	and trying to mount it locally on a FreeBSD 3.2 system.
> 
> I know the files that I need to configure are:
> 	/etc/rc.conf
> 	/etc/fstab

If you want true automount support, just enable amd in /etc/rc.conf. 
It will create a /net tree that you can use to autmount any NFS share
on your network.  i.e. "cd /net/m1.company.com/usr" does the right
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Hello all,

I would first like to say thank you to everyone who supports and contributes
to
this list.  You have all been a tremendous help in moving me from Windows NT
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FreeBSD.

On to my question....  I have two FreeBSD 3.2 machines at to separate
locations.  both are running NAT for networks on the 192.168.xxx.xxx
network.
192.168.115.xxx is used at one location and 192.168.116.xxx is used at the
other.  what I would like to do is to use nos-tun to enable a tunnel between
the two locations so the internal networks can communicate with each other.

I have tried many things to get this working and I have had no luck.  I read
the man page but it is not very clear on exactly how to make this work.  Can
anyone help me with the configuration on this?  I have the capability of
adding
more public addresses to each machine if this is what I have to do.

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Chris.Smith@raytheon.co.uk wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> At least your Netscape works 'relatively' properly.  Mine wont allow
> colo(u)r selection in any of the dialogs plus the tab controls dont work!
> I have to tread very carefully also, because it 'Bus Errors' on certain
> pages (inconsistently).  Lovely piece of software :-)

There are some entries in Netscape FAQ page for Unix. Most of them
deal with JAVA not running right because of x-fonts or environmental
paths not being set properly. They are located at
http://help.netscape.com/kb/consumer/19990221-4.html

I don't know is this is your problem or not.

> 
> Chris Smith
> Raytheon Systems Limited
> 
> PS  *****************************************************
> 
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I haven't seen this one.

Kent

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Scott Hess  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > I may not have been complete enough in my description.  I'm using rfork()
 > _without_ RFFDG or RFCFDG.  This means that the parent and child share file
 > descriptor tables.  That means that the above fix won't work, because even
 > if the parent process exits, the pipe will still be open on both ends (as
 > long as one or more children live), so you'll never detect EOF.
 > 
 > I suspect that this also means that most file descriptor based tricks won't
 > work, because of the shared file descriptor table.

In that case, there is no other way except polling the PID
(which is not only inefficient, but also not reliable).

Regards
   Oliver

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btwo cfuor  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > another question is that do FreeBSD support USB ?

http://www.etla.net/~n_hibma/usb/usb.pl

Regards
   Oliver

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I am trying to set up a dialin server for my office using FreeBSD. I
thought it might be most cost-effecitive if we used multiport boards,
like a rocketport board, so that we can easily add to the server.

I know there is documentation concerning setting up PPP dialin, but am
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Sean Noonan  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > [...]
 > Until I read this in man ntpdate:  "Ntpdate will decline to set the date
 > if an NTP server (e.g. xntpd(8)) is running on the same host".
 > 
 > So, what should I do?  It didn't/doesn't make sense to me to have all of
 > my worksatations use internet bandwidth to check time; better to have one
 > check the time and the the rest get their time from it.
 > 
 > What am I missing, conceptually?  What are my alternatives?  Is their a
 > NTP proxy I could run on my firewall?

"ntpdate" sets the clock just once and then exits.

"xntpd" is a daemon which runs in the background and corrects
the clock continously.  It synchronizes with one or more
servers on the net every now and then (it doesn't take much
bandwidth, so there is no reason to worry).  It's even clever
enough to calculate the drift of your local clock, so it can
correct it even if there is no network connection for some
time.

However, "xntpd" only works if the clock is "about right"
already.  It refuses to touch the clock if the deviation is
larger than 5 minutes, because in that case it thinks that
something is seriously wrong.  "xntpd" tries not to make
"steps", but rather speeds the local clock up slightly or
slows it down slightly, in order to correct for the drift.

Therefore, you usually run _both_ "ntpdate" and "xntpd".
First "ntpdate", in order to correct the clock once, no
matter what.  The you run "xntpd" in the background to
keep the time in sync with the world.

In FreeBSD, this is pretty easy to configure, just set
ntpdate_enable and xntpd_enable both to "YES" in your
/etc/rc.conf file (see /etc/defaults/rc.conf for the default
values).  Then you'll have to create an /etc/ntp.conf file
(see the manpage for details) which contains the servers
which you want to use for NTP.

Note that "xntpd" can be used as a server and as a client,
or both at the same time.  That is, you can run xntpd in
server+client mode on one box which syncs with some NTP
servers out there on the net.  Then you can run "xntpd"
clients on other machines of yours to sync to your server.

Regards
   Oliver

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Not for that example, but I get the same problem when I do run in single
user mode.

Dave

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 9:34 AM
Subject: Filesystem Error, Please help!


>
> Hi, I've got a problem with a bad block on one of my drives.
>
> Here's what I get from fsck:

are you doing this in a single user mode?

> ** /dev/rwd1s1e
> ** Last Mounted on /old
> ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes
>
> CANNOT READ: BLK 2492112
> CONTINUE? [yn] y
>
> THE FOLLOWING DISK SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 2492190, 2492191,
> ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames
> ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity
> ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts
> ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups
> 8031 files, 456410 used, 5519467 free (7379 frags, 689011 blocks, 0.1%
> fragmentation)
>
> ***** FILE SYSTEM STILL DIRTY *****
>
> ***** PLEASE RERUN FSCK *****
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
>
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Hello all,

I just set up FreeBSD 3.4-20000110-STABLE on an AMD Green 486/120 w/ 16M
RAM.  I'm having troubles installing the MySQL SERVER in /stand/sysinstall
(it is returning error codes and not installing).  Has anyone had troubles
with this?  If so, what do I need to do to get around this problem?  The
MySQL client, as well as any other package that I have tried to install so
far installs successfully.

Thanks and Cheers!
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Hullo.In last 5 days I sent 3 questions.None of them were answered are
you ignoring me due to some reason or does mailserver just not work proper
?
In case you DO ignore me,please give me some hint why.So that we can
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I received your message, for the record :-)

Altho I did not receive any prior messages by you. (I'm sure it has
somthing to do with me getting onto the mailing list just for the first
time this morning). 

On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:

> Hullo.In last 5 days I sent 3 questions.None of them were answered are
> you ignoring me due to some reason or does mailserver just not work proper
> ?
> In case you DO ignore me,please give me some hint why.So that we can
> settle it.
> 
> 
> kind regards,
> 
> Ariel 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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----- Original Message -----
From: Ladd J. Epp 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 10:35 AM
Subject: MySQL-Server not installing


> Hello all,
>
> I just set up FreeBSD 3.4-20000110-STABLE on an AMD Green 486/120 w/ 16M
> RAM.  I'm having troubles installing the MySQL SERVER in /stand/sysinstall
> (it is returning error codes and not installing).  Has anyone had troubles
> with this?

I'm not sure if anyone had run into this problem before in the 3.4 Release.

> If so, what do I need to do to get around this problem?

Try installing it from /usr/ports/databases/mysql3xxx. Hopefully that helps.

>  The MySQL client, as well as any other package that I have tried to
install so
> far installs successfully.
>
> Thanks and Cheers!
> ~Ladd
>
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FreeBSD 3.3:

When I do a

ssh 

and do a subsequent

killall ssh

the ssh process gets killed. Fine.

When I have 

alias rlogin ssh

in .cshrc

and do a

killall ssh

it doesn't get killed

killall rlogin doesn't work either then.

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Well, I'm starting a small business, and all I really want are maybe 3 to 6
newsgroups, all of which would be hosted by myself.  I don't intend to have
interaction with any other news servers at all, the entire purpose is for my
immediate customers to get updates over the internet.

I've removed the two packages ("nntp-1.5.12.2.tgz" and "cnews-cr.g.tgz") and
installed "inn-2.2.1.tgz", however I'm quite new at this stuff, and don't
know what to do yet.  I had CNEWS working after a few hours of trial and
error, but I still haven't figured out how to use INN.  I'm sure I need to
have those active and active.times files in order to have newsgroups, but I
don't know where to put them, or the format to use.  The only reference I
have was when I created a newsgroup with CNEWS, and it modified the active
file for me.  I'm sure INN does the same thing if I can get it to work, but
I keep getting a message when I try to run ctlinnd to make a new newsgroup.
The error message is:

Can't setup communication (bind failure) No such file or directory.

hahaha... I sure do suck at this... I probably misconfigured inn.conf.

Again, I'm very new at this, and I don't have any documentation except the
manpages for innd and nnrpd.  I'm not sure how those two daemons interact
with each other, I would expect that nnrpd is spawned when someone logs in
on port 119, and that innd processes the news articles and such.

It would be great if you could recommend a site or anything where I can
learn how newsgroups work in the first place.  I find I get better results
setting these things up when I at least know what's supposed to be going on.
=)

Thanks again for your help!! :)

-David Fuchs


----- Original Message -----
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To: David Fuchs 
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Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 00:34
Subject: Re: NNTP & CNEWS


> -On [20000119 04:00], David Fuchs (beastie@beastie.net) wrote:
> >:( Oops... sorry then, I'll give INN a try.  It's only been 3 days since
I
> >decided to run a news server.. so I'm still learning.  Thanks a lot for
your
> >help though, it's greatly appreciated!!
>
> That's ok.
>
> You just happened to be spotted by someone who's doing news
> administration for an ISP ;)
>
> But let me re-ask a question I asked, what are your newsserver demands?
>
> Are you a small site whom uses an upstream privuder for news to read a
> few groups or are you in need of a full feed (the odd 90-100 GB a day)?
>
> --
> Jeroen Ruigrok vd W/Asmodai         asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl|freebsd.org]
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> The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project 
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At 10:56 AM 1/15/00 -0500, Mikhail Evstiounin wrote:

>

>From: Alexey N. Dokuchaev <

>To: R Joseph Wright <

>Subject: Re: Windows 98

>

>

>>> FreeBSD, like win98, is an operating system.

>>

>>You gotta be kiddin' here, right? ;-)

>

>

>Alexey, it's about calssification, it's not about quality of each

>instance:-)

>Win XXX is bad but sill OS.

>

actually... isn't Windows 95/98 an Operating Enviroment.. not a Operating system??

Since the fact is that they still require DOS to run... no matter how much they try to cover it up with a fancy shell...


Swen

>>

>>

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>> | Scientific Study Center Computer Lab

>|

>> |

>|

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>>

>`---------------------------------------------------------------------------

>'

>>

>>A good conspiracy is unprovable.  I mean, if you can prove it, it means

>they

>>screwed up somewhere along the line.

>>

>> Jerry Fletcher from Conspiracy Theory

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Windows 98: n.

        useless extension to a minor patch release for 

        32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 

        16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system 

        originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, 

        written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for

        1 bit of competition.


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O.K. Now that "WE" have your email, what are the questions?



Erin



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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Ariel
> Burbaickij
> 
> Hullo.In last 5 days I sent 3 questions.None of them were answered are
> you ignoring me due to some reason or does mailserver just 
> not work proper
> ?
> In case you DO ignore me,please give me some hint why.So that we can
> settle it.
> 
> 
> kind regards,
> 
> Ariel 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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I read about a problem going through packages and /stand/sysinstall and the
reply was go try it through the ports collection. So far I have installed 2
things from ports and not a thing from packages.... what is the difference
between them? Is one better then the other?

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Ariel Burbaickij  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > Hullo.In last 5 days I sent 3 questions.None of them were answered are
 > you ignoring me due to some reason or does mailserver just not work proper
 > ?
 > In case you DO ignore me,please give me some hint why.So that we can
 > settle it.

OK, here are my reasons...  Your first posting contained
BASE64 encoded attachments which my newsreader does not
support.  Tough luck.  (I never understand why people send
plain-text attachments as unreadable BASE64...)

The second one (about your homework) was off-topic, so I
skipped it.

Finally, I didn't feel able to answer the third one, because
I don't know much about BeOS.  Someone else might answer it.
You didn't ask it long ago anyway.

Regards
   Oliver

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Hello everyone,

I have recently installed several i686 class machines with:
FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE
and pkg_add'ed:
linux_base-5.2.tgz
rpm-2.5.6.tgz

It seems that Netscape Communicator 4.7 (linux, elf) will not run properly
under this configuration.  It dumps core (SEGV) if:
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/X11R6/lib:/usr/local/lib
If LD_LIBRARY_PATH is unset, it loads but fails to run properly
(i.e. interface runs extremely slowly, seeming dns timeouts, etc).
(Yes, everything else is working fine...).

I have an extremely similar i686 class configuration:
FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE
and pkg_add'ed:
linux_base-5.2.tgz
rpm-2.5.5.tgz

Under which Netscape Communicator 4.7 (linux, elf) runs great, even with
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib

Does this reflect a problem with linux_base-5.2, or 3.4-RELEASE?
Any ideas?

Cordially,
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> > !ppp
> > *.*     /var/log/ipfw.log
> > 
> >  My ipfw.log file is empty. I searched for "log" in IPFW man page. My
> > guess is that IPFW rules for logging are not enabled by default. 
> > 
> > Answers? thank you a lot.
> > 
> Change "!ppp" to "!ipfw" in /etc/syslog.conf ;=)

oopps, sorry, it was midnight, it says !IPFW and when I reboot "Logging
disabled".


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I need to install FreeBSD 3.4 Stable onto a Compaq Server with a Compaq 221
raid controller. The root filesystem will be on the raid volume.

The machine will boot with the CD but the installation fails because it
cannot recognize the raid controller or the volume on the raid controller.

How do I make installation floppies that I can use install freebsd onto this
machine. And what kernel options do I want to use for the raid controller?

The machine is a Compaq 2500 with dual PPro 200, 256MB Ram, Smart 221 Raid
Controller, 4 hot swap 9GB drives in Raid 5 configuration.

Thanks for your help.

Max



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Packages are pre-compiled binaries and supporting files squashed into a .tgz
file.  The /stand/sysinstall installs the files in the proper place and
updates the package database.  Ports are Makefiles and supporting files that
are used to automatically grab the source from somewhere and build it.  The
package database is also updated once you 'make install' the port.  The ports
are usually better because they get updated frequently.  The packages, as far
as I know, only get built for a RELEASE of FreeBSD.

Michael Rothenberg wrote:

> I read about a problem going through packages and /stand/sysinstall and the
> reply was go try it through the ports collection. So far I have installed 2
> things from ports and not a thing from packages.... what is the difference
> between them? Is one better then the other?
>
> Enjoy!
>
> -Michael
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Michael Rothenberg wrote:
> 
> I read about a problem going through packages and /stand/sysinstall and the
> reply was go try it through the ports collection. So far I have installed 2
> things from ports and not a thing from packages.... what is the difference
> between them? Is one better then the other?
> 

Packages are pre-compiled, ports are not. (They're source code) 
Packages are faster and easier to install, but seem to lag a bit behind
ports for changes.

> Enjoy!
> 
> -Michael
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I am in the process of compiling a kernel for one of my FreeBSD machines and
I would like to put the console on the serial port. How do you do this?

The current line is
device    sc0    at isa? tty

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The 3.4-RELEASE has a problem in the install program that seems to 
cause signal 11s.  There are a few ways to get around it, but the 
most straightforward is probably to download the fixed MFSROOT 
floppy image from 
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/3.4-RELEASE/floppies/updates/
and do the installation from it (along with the existing KERN floppy).

You should also read the on-line errata for the release at 
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/3.4-RELEASE/ERRATA.TXT

If you don't want to re-install, I guess you will need to CVSUP the 
-STABLE source and rebuild your system, or perhaps you could simply 
copy /stand/sysinstall from the good MFSROOT floppy.

-- Bob

> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 19:36:49 -0800
> From: jeff 
> Subject: SIG 11 with sysinstall
> 
> Hello-I have just tried to install, by cd, my new copy of 3.4-Release and
> ran into an odd problem-The installation went (as usual) flawlessly until I
> tried to get back into the distributions page to install the games and
> dictionary distribs-I got a signal 11 and the installation failed at that
> point-I went ahead and rebooted and every thing seemed O.K. (the genious of
> the whole thing is that even for a non-programmer the work arounds were
> simple and effective) but I am wondering if it is something on the cdrom set
> or something I am missing-I went ahead and built both pgp and mutt with no
> problems. I tried to use sysinstall after installation and got the same
> error-I did a quick check of the mailing list archive but found nothing even
> close to this odd behavior-Any info or pointers to elsewhere will be geatly
> appreciated.  Jeff Phillips
>


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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 1/19/00, 8:05:27 PM, "Michael Rothenberg"=20
 wrote regarding Newbie Q: Packages or =

Ports?:


> I read about a problem going through packages and /stand/sysinstall=20
and the
> reply was go try it through the ports collection. So far I have=20
installed 2
> things from ports and not a thing from packages.... what is the=20
difference
> between them? Is one better then the other?

> Enjoy!

> -Michael


Dear Michael Rothenberg,

personally, I use the ports as much as possible.=20

The reason for this: please install one and have a look at the way it=20
works. To accomplish this, you might want to read "man script", and=20
record your port session.

The port mechanism adapts a piece of software to your *specific*=20
system. After reading the handbook on this topic, if you want to learn=20
about the "gory" details, you might want to have a look at the=20
bsd.port.mk file, which is found in /usr/ports/Mk .

One short off-topic consideration.=20
The Ports Collection is not only a means of easily installing and=20
using ported software, but also represents the work, endeavo(u)r and=20
passions of the best FreeBSD-ers; in other words, it is the Living=20
Spirit of the FreeBSD Community.=20

Best regards,
Salvo

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Here is a reply that I got yesterday that might help you. Thanx to Mike.
My original question was:
>Does any one know if FreeBSD Release 3.4 supports the Adaptec Ultra2 =
=3D
>RAID cards Model AAA-133U2. I looked through the Release Notes did not =
=3D
>see it listed among the Disk Controllers. Advise and suggestions are =
=3D
>appreciated.
It is not supported. Most likely candidates for support are DTP, Mylex =
and
the AMIMegaRAID.  See http://www.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID for drivers =
for
STABLE for the Mylex and MegaRAID.  Although the drivers are prelim, I =
have
had good luck with two test boxes on a DAC960PL and an 1428MegaRAID =
running
RAID 0,1 and 5.  Note, there are no management applications yet, so you
will have to boot to LINUX or DOS or to the card's BIOS to =
adjust/rebuild
your RAID sets.

---Mike
Mike Tancsa  (mdtancsa@sentex.net)=20
Sentex Communications Corp,  =20
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
"Given enough time, 100 monkeys on 100 routers=20
could setup a national IP network." (KDW2)


--=20
Majid Almassari, MSEE, MCP.
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  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Rocky Lau=20
  To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG=20
  Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 4:55 PM
  Subject: Help about the RAID CARD


  Dear sir,

  I have a RAID Card and I would like to install it to my FreeBSD mail =
server.
  But I got a question about the driver for this RAID Card, I had ask =
the maker ( AMI )=20
  for the driver but they said they have NO driver for FreeBSD,
  Do anyone help me please.
  My card model is
  AMI MegaRAID=AE Enterprise 1200 (Series 428)
  Ultra SCSI PCI RAID Controller=20

  Thank you very much.


  Rocky
  rocky@exasia.net

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Here is a reply that I got yesterday =
that might=20
help you. Thanx to Mike.


My original question was:


>Does any one know if FreeBSD =
Release 3.4=20
supports the Adaptec Ultra2 =3D
>RAID cards Model AAA-133U2. I =
looked=20
through the Release Notes did not =3D
>see it listed among the =
Disk=20
Controllers. Advise and suggestions are =
=3D
>appreciated.
It is not supported. Most likely candidates for =
support are=20
DTP, Mylex and
the AMIMegaRAID.  See http://www.freebsd.org/~msmi=
th/RAID=20
for drivers for
STABLE for the Mylex and MegaRAID.  Although the =
drivers=20
are prelim, I have
had good luck with two test boxes on a DAC960PL =
and an=20
1428MegaRAID running
RAID 0,1 and 5.  Note, there are no =
management=20
applications yet, so you
will have to boot to LINUX or DOS or to the =
card's=20
BIOS to adjust/rebuild
your RAID sets.

---Mike
Mike =
Tancsa =20
(mdtancsa@sentex.net) =

Sentex=20
Communications Corp,   
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
"Given =
enough=20
time, 100 monkeys on 100 routers 
could setup a national IP network." =

(KDW2)


 


 


-- 
Majid Almassari, MSEE, MCP.
Systems =
Administrator
iBroadcast,=20
Inc.
Phone: (206) 223-5540
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----- Original Message ----- 

  From:=20
  Rocky =
Lau 

  
To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG =


  
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 =
4:55=20
  PM

  
Subject: Help about the RAID =
CARD

  


  
Dear sir,

  
 

  
I have a RAID Card and I would like to install it =
to my=20
  FreeBSD mail server.

  
But I got a question about the driver for this =
RAID Card, I=20
  had ask the maker ( AMI ) 

  
for the driver but they said they have NO driver =
for=20
  FreeBSD,

  
Do anyone help me please.

  
My card model is

  
AMI=20
  MegaRAID=AE Enterprise 1200 (Series =
428)
Ultra=20
  SCSI PCI RAID Controller 

  
 

  
Thank you very much.

  
 

  
 

  
Rocky

  
rocky@exasia.net


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Hi,

Does FreeBSD3.4 support or include the RAIDframe software from Carnegie Mellon?

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Great! Thanks for the answer to all who replied.

Have a nice day.

-m

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Schwenk 
To: Michael Rothenberg 
Cc: 8 BSD Qs 
Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: Newbie Q: Packages or Ports?


|Packages are pre-compiled binaries and supporting files squashed into a
.tgz
|file.  The /stand/sysinstall installs the files in the proper place and
|updates the package database.  Ports are Makefiles and supporting files
that
|are used to automatically grab the source from somewhere and build it.  The
|package database is also updated once you 'make install' the port.  The
ports
|are usually better because they get updated frequently.  The packages, as
far
|as I know, only get built for a RELEASE of FreeBSD.
|
|Michael Rothenberg wrote:
|
|> I read about a problem going through packages and /stand/sysinstall and
the
|> reply was go try it through the ports collection. So far I have installed
2
|> things from ports and not a thing from packages.... what is the
difference
|> between them? Is one better then the other?
|>
|> Enjoy!
|>
|> -Michael
|>
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>I am in the process of compiling a kernel for one of my FreeBSD machines and
>I would like to put the console on the serial port. How do you do this?
>
>The current line is
>device    sc0    at isa? tty

That's just the console driver.  You want to affect the console device
selection logic.  There seems to be more than one way to do this.  My
favorite is to create a file named /boot.config with it's only contents
being "-P".  This sets you up to use the graphics screen if the kernel
detects a keyboard is plugged in, otherwise it uses the serial port.

See boot(8) for details, in particular the section named Boot flags.

-Mitch


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To whom I may concern.

I have installed RocketModem 6 and 4 port in my NT Ras Servers. When power 
run out, I restart the server. Since then, when someone dial in, RAS server 
is not pick up. It rings but there is no answer. Please help.

Thank You

Tan Doan

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From: "Frank J. Zidar" 
To: "Ladd J. Epp" , 
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I have installed MySQL on 3.4-STABLE with no problems whatsoever.  I
installed from /usr/ports and did not use /stand/sysinstall.  Maybe try that
route and see if you still have problems.

Frank


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Hello all,

I just set up FreeBSD 3.4-20000110-STABLE on an AMD Green 486/120 w/ 16M
RAM.  I'm having troubles installing the MySQL SERVER in /stand/sysinstall
(it is returning error codes and not installing).  Has anyone had troubles
with this?  If so, what do I need to do to get around this problem?  The
MySQL client, as well as any other package that I have tried to install so
far installs successfully.

Thanks and Cheers!
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On Wed, Jan 19, 2000 at 09:24:46PM +0000, Ta Do wrote:

> 
> To whom I may concern.
> 
> I have installed RocketModem 6 and 4 port in my NT Ras Servers. When power 
> run out, I restart the server. Since then, when someone dial in, RAS server 
> is not pick up. It rings but there is no answer. Please help.

Best to call M$-support about this. FreeBSD-mailing lists tend to
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Hi, I will set up a web hosting server with FreeBSD.
I'll have a lased line (asyncronic) from my local ISP.
That line is connect, in my office, to a DTU
(DSU/CSU), this equipment is connected to a CISCO 1720
(with a wan serial interface card) using rs-232 cable
and finally, the cisco is connected by fast ethernet
to a hub.
The web server, a dual intel with scsi u2 technology,
is also connected to the hub.
I will configure the router to recive the 6 ip
assigned by my isp, one for the router and the rest
(5ips) will be registered domains kept by the server.
On a FreeBSDzine.org text about dns and bind i found
the way to configure my server as a domain server but
i dont understand the procedure, How does bind works?
The text say "how to" configure it, but it doesnt
explain "how it works"...
Let's say i registered the domain, www.hello.com, and
this domain is registed  to one of my 5 ips.
When someone hit on a web browser www.hello.com, how
my server response the request?, what daemon do that?,
Who  and how hello.com is resolved to my IP?

Well, these are question of "networking II" in my
university, but, i'm sorry i am in 2 year yet :).

thanks a lot for your help, comments or links...


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That's nice!

I'm still in trouble.



Darren Wiebe  wrote:


I just got back from holidays and have over 4000 emails to worry =

about. =


I will be looking into this one in the next couple of days.



Darren Wiebe


Eduardo Huertas  wrote:
I have FreeBSD 3.2 installed and I got the port for StarOffice 5.1 from t=
he
net
but it seems is designed only for the English version.

I have the SUN=B4s CD and when I do the MAKE command everything seems ok =
but
when I do the MAKE install. It reports the following problem:

/usr/compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig: warning can't open
/usr/ports/editors/staroffice5/work/tmp/sv001.tmp (no such file or
directory),
skipping

I do the setup and when it finishes writes another errors:
100755: not found
*** error code 1 =

stop.

Then I try to MAKE post-install and again:
100755: not found

What I must do to install the Spanish version of StarOffice?

Thank you very much.

Eduardo

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Sotiris,

You do not provide adequate information for anyone to base one's
answers on.  Nice things to know would be:

a) What you want to end up with, .ie.

   "I want to install a name server for some of the domain names we've
   got registered so far.  The domain names are ..."

b) What you've done until now, i.e.

   "I have installed a copy of bind8, and some zone files under
   /etc/namedb, ..."

c) The most important of all, what the problem is:

   "When named starts, it dies immediately and I get the following
   stuff in my system logs ..."

Ciao.

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On Tue, Jan 18, 2000 at 04:33:47PM -0800, Shawn Ramsey wrote:
| 
| > >>This message usually means that queued packets are not going out the
| > >>interface. If you ``ifconfig down'' followed by ``ifconfig up'' the
| > >>interface the queued packets will be discarded - easier than doing a
| > >>reboot.
| > >>
| > >>IMHO this indicates that you have a problem with your hardware (NIC, hub,
| > >>switch, what have you).
| 
| Is there a way I can monitor this ? What about netstat -a? Anything in 
| particular I should be watching for when I get the no buffer space? What 
| does the number under Send-Q mean in the output of netstat -a?

	% netstat -L
	Current listen queue sizes (qlen/incqlen/maxqlen)
	Listen         Local Address
	0/0/50         localhost.localdomain

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Hello:
    I installed an IDE zip as a slave device after my HD

    FreeBSD 4.2 booted and did not complain

    Now, how do I access the zip drive ?? What command should I used to
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    Many thanks !!

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Hello:

        I have two machines up with BSD 4.2 (PII 300 MHz and a PIII 500
MHz)

        I want to run benchmarks on both machines.

        Can someone recommend good benchmark tests for these machines.

        both will be internal ftp servers.

        thanks

        Phil wong



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Hi,

On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Oliver Fromme wrote:

> Scott Hess  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
>  > I may not have been complete enough in my description.  I'm using rfork()
>  > _without_ RFFDG or RFCFDG.  This means that the parent and child share file
>  > descriptor tables.  That means that the above fix won't work, because even
>  > if the parent process exits, the pipe will still be open on both ends (as
>  > long as one or more children live), so you'll never detect EOF.
>  > 
>  > I suspect that this also means that most file descriptor based tricks won't
>  > work, because of the shared file descriptor table.
> 
> In that case, there is no other way except polling the PID
> (which is not only inefficient, but also not reliable).
> 
kWhat about "polling" using getppid(). If the parent dies, the PPID will
change (to 1?), will it not?

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Mitch Collinsworth wrote:
> 
> >I also figured I'd use ntpdate **AND** xntpd
> >on my gateway/NAT/IPFW box.  That way, I figured, my gateway/firewall box
> >would get the time from a reliable time source and then the rest of my
> >boxes would look to it for their time source.  Sounded good.
> 

How does one go about finding reliable time sources?

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On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Salvo Bartolotta wrote:
>Sic arbiter elegantiarum locutus ... 
>
>Hmmm, wasn't it M$ who had an absolute mindset ?
>
>Intelligenti pauca.

Pardon my ignorance, but would you mind providing translations of your
italian and/or latin phrases along with the originals?  That way i
could appreciate them as well.

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Walter Brameld  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > How does one go about finding reliable time sources?

Try asking your ISP.  Many have stratum-1 NTP servers.
Or try looking for one at a university or other organization
which is not too many network hops away, and which provides
such service to the public.

You can also build your own stratum-1 NTP server, just buy
an appropriate reference clock which is supported by xntpd,
e.g. a GPS or DCF receiver.  With a good GPS receiver, you
can achieve accuracy in the range of µs, but those are a bit
expensive.  DCF77 receivers, which are quite popular in
Europe, are much cheaper but less accurate (in the ms range),
but it should still be enough for private use.

Regards
   Oliver

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Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
> 
> Hullo.In last 5 days I sent 3 questions.None of them were answered are
> you ignoring me due to some reason or does mailserver just not work proper
> ?
> In case you DO ignore me,please give me some hint why.So that we can
> settle it.
> 
> kind regards,
> 
> Ariel

There are times I have felt that way also, but I don't
believe it's intentional. I remember one of your messages,
something about getting rid of Booteasy. I hesitate to
answer most questions as I am new to FreeBSD and usually
don't HAVE the answer, but if you wish, I'll take a stab at
this one:

From DOS, I think you can get rid of the boot program by
running "fdisk /mbr". I have no idea how to do it from
FreeBSD.

Yes, it can be restored later from FreeBSD. I had to do this
once, and found the method by searching the mail archives
but I'll be darned if I can find it again! There appear to
be at least two methods. One is done from DOS. There are two
files you need, bootinst.exe and boot.bin. If you installed
from cdrom, they should be on your first disk in the TOOLS
directory, or you can get them from one of the ftp sites,
also in a TOOLS directory. The other one is I believe, the
one I wound up using. Boot from your installation floppy or
cdrom and go into the partition editor for your first drive.
Make no changes to the partitions, and select "w". Continue
on until you are prompted for the BootMGR installation, and
designate your first drive. Finally, commit your changes,
and this should re-install the boot manager.

Hopefully, if I've given you some wrong information, someone
out there will be willing to jump in with both feet on my
aching back and correct me 8-)

Please be patient with us out here (sounds odd coming from
me). We're all just hackers, users and newbies, and no one
is obligated to answer questions. You may have better
success in the future by searching the mail archives at
http://www.freebsd.org. I myself have only been on this
mailing list for about a month, and see the same questions
asked over and over again. I imagine people may get tired of
answering them.

Good luck in the future, your goal is the same as mine,
getting rid of Micro$oft.

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Hi all,
i'm trying to get my aliases from my user account to transfer when i
su -m to root.  I don't want to attach all my config files, so which
ones should i post to see what is wrong?  All four are identical (all
contain aliases) and .zshenv contains some environment settings.  When
i su -m, only the two built-in aliases survive.  All others are
gone.  With bash, they survive.

Also, when i first enabled the toor account, it acted just like root.  
Then, when i added a /home/toor directory and startup scripts, i could
change my shell for toor without affecting root. (Which is the whole
point, IIUC, to have a root account with a shell besides csh or sh).  
Now that i removed the home directory, the two accounts act identical.  
CHanging one password (toor) also changes root, and vice-versa.  Is
this normal?  How can i have toor use a different shell without adding
a toor home directory, which i am not supposed to need?

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This is the way I do it: Leave the defaultrouter and ifconfig statements
out of /etc/rc.conf and add them to /etc/pccard.conf like so:

card "Linksys" "combo PCMCIA EthernetCard (EC"
	config	0x0 "ed0" 5
	insert	ifconfig ed0 inet 192.168.0.5 netmask 0xffffff00
	insert	route add default 192.168.0.1
	insert	echo 'Linksys Combo EthernetCard (EC2T) inserted'
	remove	ifconfig ed0 delete
	remove	route flush
	remove	echo 'Linksys Combo EthernetCard (EC2T) removed'

Hey, it may not be "The Right Way", but it works for me!

Andre

On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, William Woods wrote:

> I have a laptop that uses PPP to connect to the net, but also, when connected
> to my LAN uses my other FreeBSD box as a gateway. in rc.conf there is
> an entry for defaultrouter="192.168.0.2" when I am on the LAN, what would be an
> easy to switch from LAN to ppp dialup without editing rc.conf commenting out
> the default router and rebooting ? 
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Okay... I'll try that route.

Thanks and Cheers!
~Ladd


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----- Original Message -----
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> Hello all,
>
> I just set up FreeBSD 3.4-20000110-STABLE on an AMD Green 486/120 w/ 16M
> RAM.  I'm having troubles installing the MySQL SERVER in /stand/sysinstall
> (it is returning error codes and not installing).  Has anyone had troubles
> with this?

I'm not sure if anyone had run into this problem before in the 3.4 Release.

> If so, what do I need to do to get around this problem?

Try installing it from /usr/ports/databases/mysql3xxx. Hopefully that helps.

>  The MySQL client, as well as any other package that I have tried to
install so
> far installs successfully.
>
> Thanks and Cheers!
> ~Ladd
>
>
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Oliver Fromme wrote:
> 
> Ariel Burbaickij  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:

>  > In case you DO ignore me,please give me some hint why.So that we can
>  > settle it.
> 

> The second one (about your homework) was off-topic, so I
> skipped it.

Ah yes, I vaguely remember that one......

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Oliver Fromme wrote:
> 
> Walter Brameld  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
>  > How does one go about finding reliable time sources?
> 
> Try asking your ISP.  Many have stratum-1 NTP servers.
> Or try looking for one at a university or other organization
> which is not too many network hops away, and which provides
> such service to the public.
> 
> You can also build your own stratum-1 NTP server, just buy
> an appropriate reference clock which is supported by xntpd,
> e.g. a GPS or DCF receiver.  With a good GPS receiver, you
> can achieve accuracy in the range of µs, but those are a bit
> expensive.  DCF77 receivers, which are quite popular in
> Europe, are much cheaper but less accurate (in the ms range),
> but it should still be enough for private use.
> 
> Regards
>    Oliver

Thanks For the reply Oliver.
By the way, what does.....

> "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt"
>                                          (Terry Pratchett)
mean?

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Walter Brameld wrote:

> Thanks For the reply Oliver.
> By the way, what does.....
> 
> > "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt"
> >                                          (Terry Pratchett)
> mean?
> 
> --
> Walter

from babelfish.altavista.com...

"in each piece [of] coal a diamond waits for its birth"

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Harry Woodward-Clarke wrote:
> 
> Walter Brameld wrote:
> 
> > Thanks For the reply Oliver.
> > By the way, what does.....
> >
> > > "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt"
> > >                                          (Terry Pratchett)
> > mean?
> >
> > --
> > Walter
> 
> from babelfish.altavista.com...
> 
> "in each piece [of] coal a diamond waits for its birth"

Thank you. I guess I'm just a little more plebian than some
of you out there, no classical education.

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-- 
Question

- I was wondering if there is any support for FreeBSD 3.3 and the ATI Rage 128
video card?

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Well, I dident do what you did, but you gave me some ideas, I wrote two
scripts, 

dialup 
homelan

and it seems to be working fine,

Thanks

On 19-Jan-00 Andre LeClaire wrote:
> This is the way I do it: Leave the defaultrouter and ifconfig statements
> out of /etc/rc.conf and add them to /etc/pccard.conf like so:
> 
> card "Linksys" "combo PCMCIA EthernetCard (EC"
>       config  0x0 "ed0" 5
>       insert  ifconfig ed0 inet 192.168.0.5 netmask 0xffffff00
>       insert  route add default 192.168.0.1
>       insert  echo 'Linksys Combo EthernetCard (EC2T) inserted'
>       remove  ifconfig ed0 delete
>       remove  route flush
>       remove  echo 'Linksys Combo EthernetCard (EC2T) removed'
> 
> Hey, it may not be "The Right Way", but it works for me!
> 
> Andre
> 
> On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, William Woods wrote:
> 
>> I have a laptop that uses PPP to connect to the net, but also, when
>> connected
>> to my LAN uses my other FreeBSD box as a gateway. in rc.conf there is
>> an entry for defaultrouter="192.168.0.2" when I am on the LAN, what would be
>> an
>> easy to switch from LAN to ppp dialup without editing rc.conf commenting out
>> the default router and rebooting ? 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
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On 19 Jan 2000 14:43:03 -0500, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote:

>> > !ppp
>> > *.*     /var/log/ipfw.log
>> > 
>> >  My ipfw.log file is empty. I searched for "log" in IPFW man page. My
>> > guess is that IPFW rules for logging are not enabled by default. 
>> > 
>> > Answers? thank you a lot.
>> > 
>> Change "!ppp" to "!ipfw" in /etc/syslog.conf ;=)
>
>oopps, sorry, it was midnight, it says !IPFW and when I reboot "Logging
>disabled".

What does your kernel config file look like (i.e. what are the statements
relating to ipfw ?

	---Mike
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Hi,

I have a NIS server running on the local machine, and ypbind has
successfully bound to it. I can

  ypcat passwd

and

  ypcat group

and see sensible things. I have the following as the last entry in
master.passwd, as edited using vipw:

  +:::::::::

and the following in /etc/group, also as the final line:

  +:::

/etc/auth.conf and /etc/pam.conf are as-shipped. uname -a shows:

FreeBSD hive1.qsi.net.nz 3.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE #3: \
 Sat Dec  4 16:03:07 NZDT 1999     \
 jabley@hive1.qsi.net.nz:/usr/src/sys/compile/HIVE  i386

I can't get regular system utilities like su, chown, chgrp, etc to
recognise the users in and groups in their respective nis maps. I
suspect I am missing something simple :)

If anybody could point out the obvious error here, I'd be very
happy.

Thanks,


Joe


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Danny wrote:
> 
> --
> Question
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> - I was wondering if there is any support for FreeBSD 3.3 and the ATI Rage 128
> video card?
> 
> Looking forward to your feedback?
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There is for X11R6 version 3.3.6 if this is the question.
www.rge.com/pub/X/XFree86/3.3.6/binaries/FreeBSD-3.x/
I installed the tarballs as instructed instructed in the RELNOTES
and it worked fine with FreeBSD 3.2. However; there seems to be a
flaw in the way that the ported window managers use this. I have seen
many reports of display problems. I posted the following and am
still hacking away. If anyone has success I would expect them to 
share. 

Please help --

I Installed the XFree86 3.3.6 software in hopes of using my ATI Rage
128.
The previous release would not work at all for this card.

The good news is that the server starts and initially appears to work.
However when I startx to KDE 1.1.1 or Windowmaker any windows ie. term,
netscape, config etc. contain bar code instead of text also when windows
are moved the section at the top flickers when moving over another
window. Sometimes text does show but is destroyed upon window movement. 

Note -- The XFree86 3.3.6 software and KDE 1.1.1 or Windowmaker work
fine with my old Diamond Stealth 64 VRAM (S3).

Thanks
Kevin Voyce casolution@mindspring.com


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I searched the archive and found another fella having the same problem
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starting the download. A few packets then download, and that's all.  The
system still is running (I can hit scroll lock and view the terminal
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I sent it to Freebsd questions (I don't subscribe to -stable).  Don't know
how it got on the stable list.

Jim

At 09:41 PM 1/19/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Jim Manley once stated:
>
>=Tried that:
>
>Jim, this is ridiculous. In Eric's example, the word ``netmask'' is NOT
>in the <>-parentheses -- it's a keyword. In your case, the line should
>be ``ifconfig ep0 192.168.0.10 netmask 0xffffffff alias''
>
>Also,     please,    direct     this     sort     of    questions     to
>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org.   The   stable   mailing  list   is   for
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>
>         -mi
>
>=darkstar# ifconfig -a
>=ep0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
>=         inet 192.168.0.3 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255
>=         ether 00:20:af:1e:8d:8d
>=tun0: flags=8050 mtu 1500
>=sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552
>=ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500
>=lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384
>=         inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
>=darkstar# ifconfig ep0 192.168.0.10 255.255.255.0 0xffffffff alias
>=ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists
>=
>=At 09:30 PM 1/19/00 -0500, Eric D. Futch wrote:
>=>This Works for me...
>=>
>=>/sbin/ifconfig   netmask 0xffffffff alias
>
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On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 02:32:12PM +1300, Joe Abley wrote:
> I have a NIS server running on the local machine, and ypbind has
> successfully bound to it. I can
> 
> [things I can do]
> 
> I can't get regular system utilities like su, chown, chgrp, etc to
> recognise the users in and groups in their respective nis maps. I
> suspect I am missing something simple :)

Turns out I was. The simple thing was that the users I was testing
with weren't in the NIS maps. Annoying and irritating, but worth
mentioning in case anybody was planning to waste any cycles helping
me with this.

  Customer: "I have a problem."
  Support: "Have you checked to see whether you're stupid?"
  Customer: "Oh, that's right, I _am_ stupid. That's the problem."
  Support: "Glad to be of service."

Joe


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The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc as well.

Hi-

I'm running the named from bind-8.2.2P5 (and a couple earlier versions) on
my home system running FreeBSD-3.2.  I've been getting some assertions out 
of my named that cause it to generate a core file and exit.  It turns out
that it is doing some range checking on the time values it gets and the
root cause of the problem seems to be that gettimeofday() is sometimes
returning screwy values in the tv_usec field of the 'struct tm' it
returns.

    # gdb /usr/local/sbin/named.unstripped named-20000119-2.core
    ...etc...
    (gdb) where
    #0  0x28115c78 in kill () from /usr/lib/libc.so.3
    #1  0x28149e34 in abort () from /usr/lib/libc.so.3
    #2  0x8070555 in ns_panic (category=18, dump_core=1,
        format=0x80ba630 "%s:%d: %s(%s)%s%s failed.") at ns_glue.c:167
    #3  0x80705bc in ns_assertion_failed (file=0x80bf8f0 "ev_timers.c", line=114,
        type=assert_insist,
        cond=0x80bf8c6 "now.tv_usec >= 0 && now.tv_usec < 1000000", print_errno=0)
        at ns_glue.c:176
    #4  0x8088b4d in __evNowTime () at ev_timers.c:114
    #5  0x80871c5 in __evGetNext (opaqueCtx={opaque = 0x8127000},
        opaqueEv=0xbfbfd6c0, options=2) at eventlib.c:201
    #6  0x805eacc in main (argc=3, argv=0xbfbfd7fc, envp=0xbfbfd800)
        at ns_main.c:534
    #7  0x804b23d in _start ()
    (gdb) up 4
    #4  0x8088b4d in __evNowTime () at ev_timers.c:114
    114             INSIST(now.tv_usec >= 0 && now.tv_usec < 1000000);
    (gdb) list
    109     evNowTime() {
    110             struct timeval now;
    111
    112             if (gettimeofday(&now, NULL) < 0)
    113                     return (evConsTime(0, 0));
    114             INSIST(now.tv_usec >= 0 && now.tv_usec < 1000000);
    115             return (evTimeSpec(now));
    116     }
    117
    118     struct timespec
    (gdb) p now
    $1 = {tv_sec = 948333207, tv_usec = -694210779}

I'm not sure when this really started happening - I think it's been going
on for a while now (the earliest I see in my log files is mid-November, so
I guess it's not a Y2K bug :-)).  At any rate, shouldn't that tv_usec
field be in the range of 0..999999?  If not, how should I hack the source
here to interpret the above return value?  Borrow enough seconds off of
tv_sec until tv_usec is positive?  Clamp tv_usec to zero?  Or do something 
equivalent to this:

    if (tv_usec < 0 || tv_usec > 1000000) {
        now.tv_sec = time(NULL);
        now.tv_usec = 0;                
    }

???  Any ideas/suggestions?

Also...I don't know if it's related or not, but I've gotten some of those

   Jan 19 06:28:55 sabmail /kernel: calcru: negative time of -695391396 usec for pid 85131 (awk)

messages in my /var/log/messages, but it looks suspiciously close to the
same idea...maybe I should try the remedy mentioned in the FAQ under
troubleshooting (i.e. run 'sysctl -w kern.timecounter.method=1')?  Any
other ideas?

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Oliver Fromme wrote:

> David Heller  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
>  > [...]
>  > Please find below dmesg output and kernel config. Also note doing "usbd -d
>  > -f  /dev/usb0 " gives the following output: /dev/usb0 device not configured.
>  > The file is there under /dev/usb0.
>
> This is very strange.  The kernel does not even seem to find
> your PCI bus, and therefore it does not try to find any devices
> on it (USB controllers are PCI devices).
>
> Your kernel configuration looks OK to me.  (I first suspected
> that it was missing "controller pci", but it's there.)  It is
> most probably a problem with your mainboard and/or its BIOS,
> not with FreeBSD.
>
> What kind of mainboard do you have, and what kind of BIOS does
> it have?  Please go to the BIOS setup and check if everything
> is OK, in particular the configuration of the PCI bus and any
> PCI devices.
>
> Other than that, I have no idea what could causing these kinds
> of problems, I'm afraid.  Your `dmesg` output looks like your
> mainboard does not have any PCI support at all.
>
> Regards
>    Oliver
>
> --
> Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany
> (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de)
>
> "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt"
>                                          (Terry Pratchett)
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Thanks for the help. I guess I just made up my mind about trashing my main board
for something
new or different as the original cpu installed in it was a Cyrix 686 which was
acting up (I have a Pentium installed at the moment which a friend is lending me).
As it will not be easy to find a replacement cpu for the main board and the main
board apparently is sorta flaky as far as PCI functions go. As it turns out I just
picked up a Gateway with a 133mhz Pentium which is working rather nicely. FreeBSD
picks up the PCI cards very nicely also.  I will be picking up a PCI  to USB card
shortly. I will let you know how it works out.

Thanks again,

Dave



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I just purchased a new disk in order to dual boot windows 98 and FreeBSD
on my machine.  Since windows refuses to install and boot on anything but
the primary drive (wd0s1) I had to move my old disk, the bsd disk to
slave wd1s1.  Before shutting down I changed the devices in fstab to match
the new disk and made the devices.  However when I tried to boot back into
bsd it refused to find my / partition, still trying to mount /dev/wd0s1a.  

Is there something else that I have to change in order to switch the /
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Help!
I have tried for several hours now to load freebsd on a computer attached to
my network.  This computer does not have a cdrom.  The installation cdrom
was received with a book named "UNIX System Administrator's Bible" from IDG
Books.  All files in the bin directory on the installation disk have been
copied across the network to the target hard drive under a directory named
freebsd.  A boot disk has been made per installation instructions.  When the
target machine boots, it comes up with an option for the configuration
utility.  After all conflicts have been resolved/deleted,  is pressed,
then  is pressed.  I then get the following:

panic: bounce memory out of range
reboot in 15 seconds

If I let it reboot, it gives me a page fault error.  Then boots again back
to the configuration choice screen.

The target machine is a unisys running a 100 mhz pentium with 64k of memory.
It has a fd controller and 2 IDE hd controllers built in on the motherboard.
It has a 3com 3c503 NIC in an ISA slot.  The mouse and keyboard are both PS2
styled.  The floppy is standard 3.5.  The hard disk is a 2.5 gig with
nothing on it except the aforementioned copied files and Windows for
Workgroups.  If a floppy is not installed, the machine will boot into WWG
and access the network.

I know absolutely nothing about UNIX.  What am I doing wrong?

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Hi,
  I am trying to setup natd with dhcp.  One nic is using dhcp
client, the other nic have a static ip (internal network).  My problem is
trying to use natd to route everything from the 2nd one to the first one.
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Salvo Bartolotta wrote:
> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> 
> On 1/19/00, 8:05:27 PM, "Michael Rothenberg"
>  wrote regarding Newbie Q: Packages or
> Ports?:
> 
> > I read about a problem going through packages and /stand/sysinstall
> and the
> > reply was go try it through the ports collection. So far I have
> installed 2
> > things from ports and not a thing from packages.... what is the
> difference
> > between them? Is one better then the other?
> 
> > Enjoy!
> 
> > -Michael
> 
> Dear Michael Rothenberg,
> 
> personally, I use the ports as much as possible.
> 
> The reason for this: please install one and have a look at the way it
> works. To accomplish this, you might want to read "man script", and
> record your port session.
> 
> The port mechanism adapts a piece of software to your *specific*
> system. After reading the handbook on this topic, if you want to learn
> about the "gory" details, you might want to have a look at the
> bsd.port.mk file, which is found in /usr/ports/Mk .
> 
> One short off-topic consideration.
> The Ports Collection is not only a means of easily installing and
> using ported software, but also represents the work, endeavo(u)r and
> passions of the best FreeBSD-ers; in other words, it is the Living
> Spirit of the FreeBSD Community.

I agree with you there, but just in the past few hours, I've decided
that the packages are so much nicer to work with :).  
Also, you don't have to use /stand/sysinstall to install packages.  To
view packages currently installed on your system, use pkg_info.  To add
a new package, use pkg_add.  To delete a package, use pkg_delete.
For example, if you have a binary tarball named kdemultimedia-1.1.2.tgz,
just enter pkg_add kdemultimedia-1.1.2.tgz from the directory where the
tarball resides.  Within seconds, you will have that package installed
and ready to enjoy.


	
-- 
Best Regards, Joseph

	You will do foolish things,	
     but do them with enthusiasm.  Colette.


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> The stable version isn't very good compared to the unstable branch.  

At least it does more than crash.

-- 
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On Wed, Jan 19, 2000 at 12:39:10PM -0800, Max Clark wrote:
> I am in the process of compiling a kernel for one of my FreeBSD machines and
> I would like to put the console on the serial port. How do you do this?

See,

   /usr/src/sys/i386/boot/biosboot/README.serial

And in the Handbook,

   http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/x12232.html

Also the LINT kernel,

   /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT

From that file,

device          sio0    at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty flags 0x10 irq 4

#
# `flags' for serial drivers that support consoles (only for sio now):
#       0x10    enable console support for this unit.  The other console flags
#               are ignored unless this is set.  Enabling console support does
#               not make the unit the preferred console - boot with -h or set
#               the 0x20 flag for that.  Currently, at most one unit can have
#               console support; the first one (in config file order) with
#               this flag set is preferred.  Setting this flag for sio0 gives
#               the old behaviour.
#       0x20    force this unit to be the console (unless there is another
#               higher priority console).  This replaces the COMCONSOLE option.
#       0x40    reserve this unit for low level console operations.  Do not
#               access the device in any normal way.

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Hi,
I hope this is the right list to ask...

I have 2 questions actually.

1. I have a comma separated records in a file where most fields have leading
   whitespaces. Setting FS="," & reading the file preserves the leading whitespaces.
how do I remove them? I have gawk installed & there's this match() operator where
it sets the RSTART & RLENGTH parameter. Now , I'm not getting the code right
which looks for spaces at the beginning of the field . Why doesn't this work

BEGIN {spc="^[ ][ ]*"}
...
if($2 ~spc ){ pos=match($2,spc)
....

2. How can you find out whether the end of file has been reached for a specific file
    given  multiple files?
   I have 2 files , the first needs to be read into an associative array in BEGIN before
   I work with the second file in the body of the program . How do I check for end of file
   in BEGIN?
  One suggestion I got was to mark the last line of the first file with a marker like
NEXTFILE
BEGIN { FS=","; state="preload"; I=1}
{
if($0~/^NEXTFILE/) { state="loaded2"; next
                   }
 if(state == "preload")
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else {
... 

Supposing I dont want to touch the files??

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Having a few problems trying to get an ISA Aironet 4800 card working under
FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT.  I did try with 3.4-RELEASE first with the
appropriate drivers, but had even less luck.

What I'm seeing at boot:

first suspect lines:

isa0: unexpected tag 14
isa0: unexpected tag 14

then:

an0: reset failed
unknown0:  at port 0x100-0x13f irq 5 on isa0
an0: reset failed
unknown1:  at port 0x140-0x17f irq 10 on isa0


(machine has 2 cards in it).  When trying with NON PNP mode, the cards
also have the same problem.  PCI cards work fine, just not the ISA
equivalents..

Anyone have any clues/hints/tips etc?


Cheers.


Regards,
Paul.

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Hi -

When I found out that the version of XFree86 on FreeBSD 2.2.7 CDROM does =
not
support my video card, I made a decision to grab the source of a newer
version. XFree 3.3.5 which supports my video card - SiS 5597.

Was I glad to see TWM window manager running when I started X!

Then I installed kbase, klib, and a whole bunch of others that looked lik=
e
part of the KDE distribution.  However I could not find a way to start KD=
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% man kde   --- no man page
% man -k K desktop   --- nothing appropriate

To test it, I was able to run K programs under TWM but how do I run KDE.
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Hey there,

put the command 

exec startkde

in your .xinitrc file, and VIOLA.  ;)

KDE should start as long as you have that file.

Cheers,
Marc


On Tue, Feb 26, 2036 at 06:11:33AM -0700, ENOCH WU wrote:
> Hi -
> 
> When I found out that the version of XFree86 on FreeBSD 2.2.7 CDROM does not
> support my video card, I made a decision to grab the source of a newer
> version. XFree 3.3.5 which supports my video card - SiS 5597.
> 
> Was I glad to see TWM window manager running when I started X!
> 
> Then I installed kbase, klib, and a whole bunch of others that looked like
> part of the KDE distribution.  However I could not find a way to start KDE. 
> 
> % man kde   --- no man page
> % man -k K desktop   --- nothing appropriate
> 
> To test it, I was able to run K programs under TWM but how do I run KDE.
> Please help
> 
> Enoch
> 
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Hey

Thanks a lot.  I'll do that.

Enoch

---------------------------------------------------------

Marc Silver  wrote:
Hey there,

put the command =


exec startkde

in your .xinitrc file, and VIOLA.  ;)

KDE should start as long as you have that file.

Cheers,
Marc


On Tue, Feb 26, 2036 at 06:11:33AM -0700, ENOCH WU wrote:
> Hi -
> =

> When I found out that the version of XFree86 on FreeBSD 2.2.7 CDROM doe=
s
not
> support my video card, I made a decision to grab the source of a newer
> version. XFree 3.3.5 which supports my video card - SiS 5597.
> =

> Was I glad to see TWM window manager running when I started X!
> =

> Then I installed kbase, klib, and a whole bunch of others that looked l=
ike
> part of the KDE distribution.  However I could not find a way to start =
KDE.

> =

> % man kde   --- no man page
> % man -k K desktop   --- nothing appropriate
> =

> To test it, I was able to run K programs under TWM but how do I run KDE=
=2E
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> =

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Dear all,
I installed FreeBSD 3.4 and appache 1.3.9. I connected to the network with a 
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The probles is, when I shutdown my computer and switch the power off then 
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Hi all,

I'm running 3.2 and I got a problem doing an apache13-php3 make (i selected
a whole bunch of the options such as gd, crypto, mysql, posgress) and got
the following error after hours of the make run :

===>   Generating temporary packing list
===>   Compressing manual pages for libmcrypt-2.2.4
===>   Registering installation for libmcrypt-2.2.4
===>   Returning to build of apache+php+mod_ssl-1.3.9+3.0.14+2.4.10
Error: shared library "mcrypt.2" does not exist
*** Error code 1

any idea?

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apache13-php3 make problem




Hi all,




I'm running 3.2 and I got a problem =
doing an apache13-php3 make (i selected a whole bunch of the options =
such as gd, crypto, mysql, posgress) and got the following error after =
hours of the make run :



=3D=3D=3D>   Generating =
temporary packing list

=3D=3D=3D>   Compressing =
manual pages for libmcrypt-2.2.4

=3D=3D=3D>   Registering =
installation for libmcrypt-2.2.4

=3D=3D=3D>   Returning =
to build of apache+php+mod_ssl-1.3.9+3.0.14+2.4.10

Error: shared library =
"mcrypt.2" does not exist

*** Error code 1




any idea?




Mike





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Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Paul Reece had to 
walk into mine and say:
 
> Having a few problems trying to get an ISA Aironet 4800 card working under
> FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT.  I did try with 3.4-RELEASE first with the
> appropriate drivers, but had even less luck.
 
> What I'm seeing at boot:

Back up. You're leaving out some info.

- When did you buy these cards? (The firmware rev may be an issue.
  knowing when you bought the card helps me figure out if your firmware
  is newer than mine.)
- What sort of machine are you using? (Show us the *whole* dmesg output.
  Timing may also be an issue, in which case I need to know the CPU speed.)
 
> first suspect lines:
> 
> isa0: unexpected tag 14
> isa0: unexpected tag 14

I'm not sure if this is related.
 
> then:
> 
> an0: reset failed
> unknown0:  at port 0x100-0x13f irq 5 on isa0
> an0: reset failed
> unknown1:  at port 0x140-0x17f irq 10 on isa0
> 
> 
> (machine has 2 cards in it).  When trying with NON PNP mode, the cards
> also have the same problem.

Tell us what kernel config line you use when using the card in non-PnP
mode. Note that the switches on the card must all be in the correct
position in order to enable PnP mode: consult your user's manual for
the proper settings. I believe they all need to be in the off position,
however I don't have the manual here at home with me so I could be
mistaken. (I do remember they all have to be set the same way.)

>  PCI cards work fine, just not the ISA
> equivalents..
> 
> Anyone have any clues/hints/tips etc?

Not really. My one and only ISA card works fine, or at least it did when
I did my tests right before I imported the driver. It would help if you
could actually look at the card when the kernel boots to see if the LEDs
flash at all. If the reset is screwing up, then you should see the LEDs
flicker when it tries to access the board. If it's failing to access the
board at all, the LEDs won't change at all.

Try commenting out the code in an_reset() (i.e. make it an empty
function that does nothing) and see if it works then. If it *still*
doesn't work, then there's something else wrong. Try to run the
following program as root:

#include 
#include 
#include 

#include 

#define IOADDR  0x100 /* change to 0x140 for other card */

main()
{
        int                     f;

        f = open("/dev/io", O_RDWR);

        printf("COMMAND: %x\n", inw(IOADDR));
        printf("PARAM0: %x\n", inw(IOADDR + 0x2));
	outw(IOADDR + 0x2, 0x1234);
	printf("PARAM0: 0x\n", inw(IOADDR + 0x2));

	exit(0);
}

This will print out the command and status registers for the card
at iobase 0x100. If the card has been properly activated, you should
see 0000 for the COMMAND and PARAM0 registers initially, then the
program will try to write 0x1234 to the PARAM0 register and read it
back. If it reads back 0x1234, then the card is configured right
and the reset is screwing up. If on the other hand the program prints
ffff for all of the register contents, then the card is not really
configured properly for address 0x100.

> 
> Cheers.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Paul.
> 
> (replies to me direct please - not on list)

I'm doing both. Deal with it.

-Bill

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On Wed, Jan 19, 2000 at 02:26:06PM -0500, m wrote:
> > > !ppp
> > > *.*     /var/log/ipfw.log
> > > 
> > >  My ipfw.log file is empty. I searched for "log" in IPFW man page. My
> > > guess is that IPFW rules for logging are not enabled by default. 
> > > 
> > > Answers? thank you a lot.
> > > 
> > Change "!ppp" to "!ipfw" in /etc/syslog.conf ;=)
> 
> oopps, sorry, it was midnight, it says !IPFW and when I reboot "Logging
> disabled".
> 
You need to add an IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE option to your kernel config file
for logging to work.  Note, that ipfw.ko module is compiled without
-DIPFIREWALL_VERBOSE (see src/sys/modules/ipfw/Makefile).

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	This is probably a stupid question..but..here it goes...I installed
FreeBSD 3.4 on a 2.5 gig partition on my HD.  I made sure to make the
partition a FreeBSD partition and all that good stuff...it installed fine,
i didn't go through and install a bunch of the extra stuff yet, just wanted
to get the basic system on my computer tonight....everything looked like it
was goin great..dialed the internet fine during the install...then i got a
couple errors something about fork somethin...i dont remember..it was
during configuring tcl if i remember right...anyway so I decided to reboot
and then just hit the sack..when i rebooted, it loaded up the bootmanager
program,  F1  for DOS,   F2 for FreeBSD      F1 was the default,  so I hit
F2 to boot up FreeBSD...and all it did was Beep..no matter what i hit all
it did was Beep..so i had to boot up in windows and cant seem to get
FreeBSD to boot :(  If you have any ideas what i did wrong or how i can fix
this please let me know..the errors i had while configuring tcl are no big
deal, i'll deal with that later....not being able to boot up FreeBSD isn't
too cool though..and i've tried reinstalling it a couple times
also...well..thanks for your time :)

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* Dexter X  [000120 01:26] wrote:
> 	This is probably a stupid question..but..here it goes...I installed
> FreeBSD 3.4 on a 2.5 gig partition on my HD.  I made sure to make the
> partition a FreeBSD partition and all that good stuff...it installed fine,
> i didn't go through and install a bunch of the extra stuff yet, just wanted
> to get the basic system on my computer tonight....everything looked like it
> was goin great..dialed the internet fine during the install...then i got a
> couple errors something about fork somethin...i dont remember..it was
> during configuring tcl if i remember right...anyway so I decided to reboot
> and then just hit the sack..when i rebooted, it loaded up the bootmanager
> program,  F1  for DOS,   F2 for FreeBSD      F1 was the default,  so I hit
> F2 to boot up FreeBSD...and all it did was Beep..no matter what i hit all
> it did was Beep..so i had to boot up in windows and cant seem to get
> FreeBSD to boot :(  If you have any ideas what i did wrong or how i can fix
> this please let me know..the errors i had while configuring tcl are no big
> deal, i'll deal with that later....not being able to boot up FreeBSD isn't
> too cool though..and i've tried reinstalling it a couple times
> also...well..thanks for your time :)

does this apply/help:

http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/multi-os/x136.html

?

-Alfred


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Hello there,

Can anyone help with this problem .....
I am new to unix 1.5 months,

I installed ssh2 rel 13 on my machines ( 1 solaris, 2 linux, 1 freebsd )
And when I ssh from a one Linux machine to another I get the following error.

** !! ILLEGAL HOST KEY FOR abc !! **
Remove /root/.ssh2/hostkeys/key_22_abc.pub and try again if you think that th
is is normal.

So I removed the file ....
And then it worked.

But from the Linux to Solaris I get the following :

** !! ILLEGAL HOST KEY FOR xyz !! **
Remove /root/.ssh2/hostkeys/key_22_xyz.pub and try again if you think that th
is is normal.

I also removed this file ....
but this time it didn't work , I got the following:

Disconnected; authentication error (No further authentication methods available.).


What do I do?
Please Help

Thanks Mark
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Hi Sivaram,

Please use a descriptive subject next time.  Many people don't
even look at mails which don't have a subject at all (because
they're misdirected subscribe/unsubscribe commands most of the
time).

SIVARAM N  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > I hope this is the right list to ask...

Well, actually your questions are not FreeBSD-specific.
This kind of questions probably belong to some appropriate
usenet newsgroup, e.g. comp.lang.awk.

 > 1. I have a comma separated records in a file where most fields have leading
 >    whitespaces. Setting FS="," & reading the file preserves the leading whitespaces.
 > how do I remove them?

FS can be a regular expression, so you can construct it in a
way so it matches the white space, too.  For example:

   FS=", *"

That one will match all spaces following a comma, so they will
be parsed as part of the separator, thus they're removed.
However, spaces at the very beginning of the line (before the
first field) are still there.  You can use the command

   sub(/^ */, "")

to remove them.

 > 2. How can you find out whether the end of file has been reached for a specific file
 >     given  multiple files?

There might be several ways to detect that.  One of them is to
look at the variable ARGIND, which contains the index of the
currect file in the array ARGV.  You could do something like
this:

(ARGIND == 1){
    ... 
}
(ARGIND > 1){
    ... 
}

Another way would be to read that file in your BEGIN statement
and then set ARGV[1] to "/dev/null" (note that you can't
change ARGIND inside the BEGIN block):

BEGIN{
    while(getline 
    }
    ARGV[1] = "/dev/null";	# Skip the first one.
}
{
    ... 
}

The second solutions is _slightly_ more efficient, because it
doesn't have to check ARGIND for every input record.

I'd recommend that you have a look at the awk manpage, it
contains much of the details.

Regards
   Oliver

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I'm trying to run MS Foxpro Unix on FreeBSD 3.2 using ibcs2.

I've copied the files between systems.

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[redirected to -chat]

Harry Woodward-Clarke  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > Walter Brameld wrote:
 >> By the way, what does.....
 >> 
 >> > "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt"
 >> >                                          (Terry Pratchett)
 >> mean?
 > 
 > from babelfish.altavista.com...
 > 
 > "in each piece [of] coal a diamond waits for its birth"

That translation is surprisingly accurate for babelfish.  :)

Sorry that I don't have separate signatures for German and
international mailing lists.  It's a quote from a great book
by Terry Patchett, who's often called the ``Douglas Adams of
Fantasy'' -- the original is in English, of course, but I only
have the German translation.  The German title of the book is
``Gevatter Tod'' (published by Goldmann Verlag, ISBN 3-442-
41551-9), the original is ``Reaper Man'', published by Victor
Gollancz Ltd., London.

I have to say that this is probably the best book I've read
in my life (so far).  It's a very humorous story from the
``disc world'', with a lot of ``sense of wonder'', and it's
surprisingly emotional given the fact that the main protagonist
is Mr. Death himself...

If you like Douglas Adam's "Hitchhiker Trilogy", you will love
this book.  I can recommend it to everyone.

Regards
   Oliver

PS:  In this book, "Death" lives incognito on the disc world
for some time in a small village under the name "Bill Door".
Although I think it's coincidental, it leaves room for some
thoughts...  ;-)

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Is there anyway to get a free shell for IRC from you? (DalNet)

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Hello,

Can anyone help with this problem .....

I use FreeBSD 3.3.

I have PCI Plug and Play souns cards (Sound Blaster live, Yamaha YMF740)
on Compaq and NEC desktops.

I use OSS (Opensound).
the sound card use IRQ11, which is already used by the Ethernet card and
by VGA.
How could I change one of these IRQs (The BIOS set up does not allow
access to these IRQs) ?


I have also a PCI Plug and Play souns cards (ESS Solo-1) on a NEC Versa
Note laptop.
OSS tells me that IRQ5 is already used.
However, dmesg and /var/log/messages do not give such an information.
pcic is on IRQ11, PCMCIA slots on IRQ3 and IRQ4.
How to identify the device that also uses IRQ5 ?


Thank you.

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Error check the call:

if (write(socketfd, &rtmsg, len) < len) {
	perror("write()");
	return -1;
}

Omachonu Ogali
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Suresh Kumar Satapati wrote:

> I have a C question.
> I have a routing message structure .. 
>         static struct srtmsg {...}rtmsg;
> declared as above. Now i have to write a portion of this structure to a 
> routing socket (PF_ROUTE) using a 'write' call.
> My call looks as below:
> 
>    write(socketfd, (char*)&rtmsg, len)
>   
>   where 'len' is a valid integer. The value of 'len' is less than 
>  sizeof(struct srtmsg). This call fails and gives a Page Fault.
> 
> Please let me know if there is a better way to do this.
> 
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On Thursday, 20 January 2000 at  3:32:53 -0800, Pelle Plånbok wrote:
> Is there anyway to get a free shell for IRC from you? (DalNet)

Sure, there are plenty of clients in the Ports Collection.

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Hullo.First of all I give you some hints who I am(at least what are fields
of interest of mine :)) I am excahnge Russian student in Germany.
What I do ?I occasionally do some translations as my student job and
work pretty much with German and Russian documents, very oft
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Probably your firewall at the ISP - use the passive ftp

On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Scott Gregson wrote:

> I searched the archive and found another fella having the same problem
> that I am.  That is, everthing goes alright during the FTP install up to
> starting the download. A few packets then download, and that's all.  The
> system still is running (I can hit scroll lock and view the terminal
> output), but the download ceases.
> 
> I burned a CDrom, but the system says it is "mode 3" atapi and doesn't
> know what to do with it, so I cannot install that way.
> 
> I have a cable modem, and it finds the FTP site.
> 
> Any ideas?
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I want to remove sendmail from freeBSD 3.3 and replace it with Postfix can this
be easily accomplished using a package manager and not manual file movement?

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The firewall rules are taken care of automagically by rc.firewall.  It's
already got a check in there for natd, and will add the approprite rule.

For kicks, here's what I've got on one box I'm doing this on, I've got ed1
to the internet, and ed2 on my internal network:

# cat /etc/rc.conf | grep "applicable stuff"
firewall_enable="YES"
firewall_type="open"
network_interfaces="ed1 ed2 lo0"
ifconfig_ed1="inet 209.100.20.126  netmask 255.255.255.224"
ifconfig_ed2="inet 10.10.100.1 netmask 255.255.255.0"
natd_enable="YES"
natd_interface="ed1"
natd_flags="-s

# ipfw list
00100 divert 8668 ip from any to any via ed1
00100 allow ip from any to any via lo0
00200 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8
65535 allow ip from any to any

# cat /etc/dhcpd.conf
server-identifier 10.10.100.1;

subnet 10.10.100.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
  range 10.10.100.2 10.10.100.240;
  option domain-name-servers 209.100.20.2, 209.100.20.3;
  option routers 10.10.100.1;
  option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
  option broadcast-address 10.10.100.255;
  default-lease-time 2592000;
  max-lease-time 2592000;
}

subnet 209.100.20.96 netmask 255.255.255.224 {
}


Hope this helps...

-Troy




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> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of lam
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> Subject: Natd and dhcp,
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>
> Hi,
>   I am trying to setup natd with dhcp.  One nic is using dhcp
> client, the other nic have a static ip (internal network).  My problem is
> trying to use natd to route everything from the 2nd one to the first one.
>   Natd manpage mentioned about the three rules in rc.firewall; where
> should I put them?
>   I set in rc.conf:
> 	firewall_enable="YES"
> 	firewall_type="simple"
>   and then I am stuck on the rc.firewall.  A simple rc.firewall example is
> more than appreciate.
>
> Thanks.
>
> ---Lam Nguyen
>
>
>
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Use the port:

cd /usr/ports/mail/postfix && make install && make replace

Be sure to edit /usr/local/etc/postfix/main.cf to suit your needs

-Troy


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> George Giles
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OK, i'm running 3.4 stable on a toshiba 4010cdt.  I have a PCMCIA
modem, and i have tried to resume twice from suspend mode, and the
result is a crash.
fata trap 12: page fault in kernel mode
addr: 0x84
supervisor read, page not present
instruction: 0x8:0xc01d364c
stack 0x10:0xc456cddc
frame 0x10:0xc456cde8
code base 0, limit xfffff type 0x1b
DPL 0, pres 1 def 32 gran 1
eflags interrupt enabled, resume, IDPL = 0
proc = 269 ppp
mask
stopped at sioclose+0x20

Obviously the PCMCIA card gets hosed during resume.  What do i need to
do to eliminate this?  Do i have to close ppp before i suspend?  I
usually start ppp -ddial to my ISP when i start, and i haven't figured
out pppctl.  Do i need to learn this command to do what i want?  I
find that when i lose my ppp connection for some reason, i hve to
reboot to reset the tun device.  There must be an easier way.

-=> jm <=-

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Well, i've narrowed it down with echo statements in all my config
files.  Here is the really bizarre part: when i su to root, i have to
use su -l, and it executes .profile, NOT .zprofile, but .profile
(which is for bash, right?)  I read the man page, and it says NOTHING
about .profile being executed, only .zprofile.  Why is this file being
executed, and why does -m clobber my alias settings?  All the other
env variables stay the same with the im option.

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Hi,

Does FreeBSD3.4 support or include the RAIDframe software from Carnegie Mellon?

Thanks,

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> I haven't figured out pppctl.   Do i need to learn this command to
> do what i want?  I find that when i lose my ppp connection for
> some reason, i hve to reboot to reset the tun device.
> There must be an easier way.
> 
> -=> jm <=-
 
I don't know about your other problem but heres what I do to
shutdown ppp cleanly:

add to /etc/ppp/ppp.conf:
set server /var/run/internet "" 0177

and then shutdown ppp with:
/usr/sbin/pppctl /var/run/internet quit all

This at least answers part of you question.

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I appreciate your help.
Here's whats happening.  I am loading 3.4.  During the load process,
using visual mode, the probe process finds the ps/2 mouse (psm0 does not
say "not found").  I have no problems getting everything loaded.  But
prompted to setup the mouse daemon I get no response from the mouse.

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How can i make more powerful traffic for two two-wire leased lines and
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I am FreeBSD -2.2.7 Release.
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I have had a problem that is somewhat similar. My machine (laptop) is
supposed to be dedicated to freebsd. I did try with a dual boot and found
a problem similar to yours. What you might find is the following. Reboot
with the installation disks and continue as if you were installing
for the first time. When you get to the first menu (blue screen) just go
to the label editor. My bet is that you will find that the partitions
still exist, but the labels are gone for some reason. That is, instead of
appearing as "/" or "/usr", they appear as "".

That may give you some insight as to what is causing the problem, but
unfortunately I do not know how to solve it. If you figure it out PLEASE
let me know as I would like to have freebsd on my thinkpad.

good luck (to you, and me!)

marwan


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> 	This is probably a stupid question..but..here it goes...I installed
> FreeBSD 3.4 on a 2.5 gig partition on my HD.  I made sure to make the
> partition a FreeBSD partition and all that good stuff...it installed fine,
> i didn't go through and install a bunch of the extra stuff yet, just wanted
> to get the basic system on my computer tonight....everything looked like it
> was goin great..dialed the internet fine during the install...then i got a
> couple errors something about fork somethin...i dont remember..it was
> during configuring tcl if i remember right...anyway so I decided to reboot
> and then just hit the sack..when i rebooted, it loaded up the bootmanager
> program,  F1  for DOS,   F2 for FreeBSD      F1 was the default,  so I hit
> F2 to boot up FreeBSD...and all it did was Beep..no matter what i hit all
> it did was Beep..so i had to boot up in windows and cant seem to get
> FreeBSD to boot :(  If you have any ideas what i did wrong or how i can fix
> this please let me know..the errors i had while configuring tcl are no big
> deal, i'll deal with that later....not being able to boot up FreeBSD isn't
> too cool though..and i've tried reinstalling it a couple times
> also...well..thanks for your time :)
> 
> Dex
> 
> 
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Hello,

The RAID facility in FreeBSD is implemented via "Vinum", which is documented on the www.freebsd.org web site (have a look at the documentation subsection, and you'll find a web page for "reference manual pages" for various versions of Unix)

     TfH



Hi,

Does FreeBSD3.4 support or include the RAIDframe software from Carnegie Mellon?

Thanks,

Reinaldo Rios


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I just found this in a Linux mailing list. Anyone else seen this? It's
apparently included w/ Mandrake 7, about which I know nothing. But *this* is too
cool.

http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/index.html

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Hello,

Where is situated your FreeBSD partition ?

There is a limit with "normal BIOSes", where you can't boot from a partition beginning after the 1024th cylinder.

It seems that, when FreeBSD installs itself, it uses a wrong geometry setup, where the number of cylinders for your disk is higher than what you can see from the BIOS (the BIOS could see for example C/H/S = 1044/255/63 when FreeBSD by default sees
80??/32/63 - I don't have the exact figures).

When one step of FreeBSD boot runs (boot1 / boot2 / loader ?), there is a call to the BIOS with a number of cylinders which is too large, hence the "beep" of the BIOS.

The solution is to record the "right" geometry, as seen by the BIOS when starting the machine with LBA mode, and then use the eometry option in the "fdisk" screen, where you set up the different partitions (wd0s1 / wd0s2 ...) in the hard disk where you
want to install FreeBSD. Write in the dialogue box the geometry as told by the BIOS, and finish the install as usual.

(this is at least how I installed FreeBSD on an Award BIOS at home)

     TfH



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On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Dexter X wrote:

>    This is probably a stupid question..but..here it goes...I installed
> FreeBSD 3.4 on a 2.5 gig partition on my HD.  I made sure to make the
> partition a FreeBSD partition and all that good stuff...it installed fine,
> i didn't go through and install a bunch of the extra stuff yet, just wanted
> to get the basic system on my computer tonight....everything looked like it
> was goin great..dialed the internet fine during the install...then i got a
> couple errors something about fork somethin...i dont remember..it was
> during configuring tcl if i remember right...anyway so I decided to reboot
> and then just hit the sack..when i rebooted, it loaded up the bootmanager
> program,  F1  for DOS,   F2 for FreeBSD      F1 was the default,  so I hit
> F2 to boot up FreeBSD...and all it did was Beep..no matter what i hit all
> it did was Beep..so i had to boot up in windows and cant seem to get
> FreeBSD to boot :(  If you have any ideas what i did wrong or how i can fix
> this please let me know..the errors i had while configuring tcl are no big
> deal, i'll deal with that later....not being able to boot up FreeBSD isn't
> too cool though..and i've tried reinstalling it a couple times
> also...well..thanks for your time :)
>
> Dex
>
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On Monday, 17 January 2000 at 15:35:07 -0800, Johnny Wu wrote:
>
> I have a question regarding DPT drivers for their 4th generation SmartRAID
> products.

It looks to me like you're talking about the SmartRAID V.  We already
have drivers for the SmartRaid IV.

> It looks like they are coming out soon with their FreeBSD drivers,
> including a neat command-line tool to monitor/configure the system
> (although I got conflicting messages, see below).

Indeed, I see nothing of this below.

> Is it better to wait for these drivers to get into a -RELEASE, or
> just use DPT developed drivers when (and if) they do get released?

I wouldn't hold my breath for DPT to do something.  They've been a
very unreliable source of information in the past.

> I'm primary interested in implementing a hot-swappable spare RAID
> 0/1 configuration, and according to the mailing lists, but you can't
> tell if a failure occurs on FreeBSD with 3rd generation DPT
> controllers, is that right?

I don't know about that, but the performance of the III and IV leaves
something to be desired.

> Also, is it true that you can  can boot off of a logical drive on a DPT
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> a independent drive to boot or not.

I don't think so.

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Chris Browning wrote:
> 
> I just found this in a Linux mailing list. Anyone else seen this? It's
> apparently included w/ Mandrake 7, about which I know nothing. But *this* is too
> cool.
> 
> http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/index.html

Look for vnc in the ports tree 

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On Thursday, 20 January 2000 at 15:40:21 +0100, Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr wrote:
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>> Does FreeBSD3.4 support or include the RAIDframe software from Carnegie Mellon?
>
> The RAID facility in FreeBSD is implemented via "Vinum", which is
> documented on the www.freebsd.org web site (have a look at the
> documentation subsection, and you'll find a web page for "reference
> manual pages" for various versions of Unix)

To clarify things, vinum is not related to RAIDFrame, and it includes
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Hello,

I have just had a look at a recent LINT and found that FreeBSD supports the "Duralink" family of multi-port NICs.

Is this brand the only one for supported multi-port NICs ?

has anyone a (good or bad) experience with these boards ?

Finally (and just to be sure), the duralink boards are of the PCI-64 type : is there any problem plugging them in a 32-bit PCI slot ? (the doc says yes, but I'd prefer having a hands-on experience)

     TIA

     TfH




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Hi,

On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, R Joseph Wright wrote:

> > The stable version isn't very good compared to the unstable branch.  
> 
> At least it does more than crash.

I have yet to have any of the development branch lines that are/were in
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THANKS!  I couldn't for the life of me remember what this software was called.  I
wanted to try it out for possible use in support.

Chris Browning wrote:

> I just found this in a Linux mailing list. Anyone else seen this? It's
> apparently included w/ Mandrake 7, about which I know nothing. But *this* is too
> cool.
>
> http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/index.html
>
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What tape drive (preferably one available from cdw.com) would people
recommend for a $2,000 to $2,500 budget? (including tapes) :)

Thanks
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote:

> Chris Browning wrote:
> > 
> > I just found this in a Linux mailing list. Anyone else seen this? It's
> > apparently included w/ Mandrake 7, about which I know nothing. But *this* is too
> > cool.
> > 
> > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/index.html
> 
> Look for vnc in the ports tree 

/usr/ports/net/vnc

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On 19-Jan-00 Walter Brameld wrote:
> Mitch Collinsworth wrote:
>> 
>> >I also figured I'd use ntpdate **AND** xntpd
>> >on my gateway/NAT/IPFW box.  That way, I figured, my gateway/firewall box
>> >would get the time from a reliable time source and then the rest of my
>> >boxes would look to it for their time source.  Sounded good.
>> 
> 
> How does one go about finding reliable time sources?
> 

http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/servers.htm

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Couldn't run my NT network without it.  Install it as standard on all
servers.

mvh/regards

James

> > > I just found this in a Linux mailing list. Anyone else seen this? It's
> > > apparently included w/ Mandrake 7, about which I know nothing. But
*this* is too
> > > cool.
> > >
> > > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/index.html
> >
> > Look for vnc in the ports tree
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote:

>-On [20000118 08:00], Mike Heffner (mheffner@mailandnews.com) wrote:
>>Is there a list of smtp servers freebsd.org will not accept mail from for
>>mailing lists anywhere on the net? I need to check if some smtp servers are
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>The default mostly:
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>RBL and DUL.  Plus some spammers we found and added.  For the remainder,
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>> >I also figured I'd use ntpdate **AND** xntpd
>> >on my gateway/NAT/IPFW box.  That way, I figured, my gateway/firewall box
>> >would get the time from a reliable time source and then the rest of my
>> >boxes would look to it for their time source.  Sounded good.


No, Mitch Collinsworth did not write this.  Please pay attention
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Hello,

After reading the latest advisory on the make -j /tmp race I decided
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For example, if you set the following permissions on /tmp:

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99% of the time, it's some program that creates that files for the
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A similar suggestion could also apply to vi.recover..

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On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 09:46:24AM -0500, Chris Browning wrote:
> I just found this in a Linux mailing list. Anyone else seen this? It's
> apparently included w/ Mandrake 7, about which I know nothing. But *this* is too
> cool.

I saw it too today, and immediately made a `make search key=vnc` in
/usr/ports. 10 minutes later I had installed servers and clients in my
FreeBSD machine and the most hated NT-machine that I have to have. It
works like a charm, so now I'll install it at home on the FreeBSD box
there. This will let me get rid of the dual boot at home (with PC
Anywhere on the NT:)

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Whats this jobby use for security?

On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Gunnar Flygt wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 09:46:24AM -0500, Chris Browning wrote:
> > I just found this in a Linux mailing list. Anyone else seen this? It's
> > apparently included w/ Mandrake 7, about which I know nothing. But *this* is too
> > cool.
> 
> I saw it too today, and immediately made a `make search key=vnc` in
> /usr/ports. 10 minutes later I had installed servers and clients in my
> FreeBSD machine and the most hated NT-machine that I have to have. It
> works like a charm, so now I'll install it at home on the FreeBSD box
> there. This will let me get rid of the dual boot at home (with PC
> Anywhere on the NT:)
> 
> -- 
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> 
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when i run star office 5.1 on my freebsd 3.4-stable
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I cant even shutdown the xserver or the application
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anyone know how to fix this, i really like staroffice
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I would have fixed this myself but i found out it is Perl, not C, and
i also have too much to do today  (:

I used pkg_info -c to produce a script for updating ports.

Anyway, when outputting the path to a package that is 'unknown in
index', the path is the path of the package previously processed.  For
example, after showing the info, the pathname is obviously the path to
mc (/usr/ports/misc/mc).  The next entry is mergemaster.  While the
command to update is correct, the script outputs 'cd
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location, which obviously will not work.  Has anyone else seen this? I
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If memory serves me right, Steve Hovey wrote:

> Whats this jobby use for security?

Access control is via an encrypted (single DES?) password exchange.

The VNC connection itself isn't encrypted, but it can be tunnelled over 
SSH.  There is some information about this at:

http://www.zip.com.au/%7ecs/answers/vnc-thru-firewall-via-ssh.txt

Bruce.





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Ahmed Khudre wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> I installed FreeBSD 3.4 and appache 1.3.9. I connected to the network with a
> static IP and I tried the web server from another machine. Every thing is
> OK.
> 
> The probles is, when I shutdown my computer and switch the power off then
> open it again, I lose the connection with the network.
>

There are several tools to troubleshoot network problems, most of which
can be daunting to a newbie.  Here is a short list of commands you may
want to check out the man pages on:
ifconfig
netstat
ping
traceroute

That said, what does 'ifconfig -a' return?

> I am new to FreeBSD and Unix enviroment, and I would appreciate your
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Which driver for 3C905C ?

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Charles Hill  wrote,

>I want to install via a cable modem (my ethernet interface), but rely on
>my providers' DHCP server for all this information.  Help!

[handbook excerpt snipped]

>Does the install support DHCP?  Will it in the future?

It has since 3.3-RELEASE, maybe before that. However, when I tried to
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HTH - good luck!


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Brett Taylor wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, R Joseph Wright wrote:
> 
> > > The stable version isn't very good compared to the unstable branch.
> >
> > At least it does more than crash.
> 
> I have yet to have any of the development branch lines that are/were in
> ports crash and I use gimp relatively frequently.  Are you experiencing
> lots of crashes w/ the development version and if so what is causing them?
> I'm sure that at least the Gimp team would like to know about it.

It almost invariably crashes when doing any "big" task like redrawing
the entire screen.  What happens is it either locks up and will not
continue, or it begins filling my desktop with duplicate gimp windows. 
I've never had any luck with the development version.

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Here's the whole deal,

I have a primary and secondary HDD (1.6 and 1.2 respectively) -
on HD1 I have Windows NT , on HD2 I have Fat16 (which I'm using as a backup
drive right now) -

What I'm wanting to do is, install freebsd on Drive 2 and somehow add it to
the NT boot.ini boot loader (if not, I suppose I will go with the FreeBSD
boot loader) - I need to know if freebsd 3.3 supports NTFS -
also, another scenario I'm worried about is -
Say I install BSD - suddenly NT Crashes and I have to reload - fine -
NT always overwrites the MBR - thus making it (impossible?) hard to get into
BSD again w/out reinstalling -
can someone gimme some comments on all that?
thanks
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I think my mind is broken or something. This is really confusing me. I
must be missing or forgetting something obvious.

I was writing a sh-script that ran some stuff through awk and I wanted
to drop the results in some shell variables, so I piped  the awk
output to a read command. But it would not work. The sh-builtin "read"
seems to have muddled my thoughts this morning. Why does this happen:

$ echo 3 | read NUM
$ echo $NUM  

$ read NUM
3
$ echo $NUM
3
$ echo "TEST" | read STR
$ echo $STR

$ echo "TEST" > afile.txt
$ read STR < afile.txt
$ echo $STR
TEST
$

Where the second read shows my keyboard input working, and the third
shows a successful redirect to read from a file. Why does it look like
read won't read from a piped stdin? I could swear I used to do this
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Hi,

    Try enabling or disabling the PNP function in your BIOS.

I Hope this Helps...
Ales

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> Hello,
>  Has anyone had any experience with freebsd 3.4 not properly detecting
> the 3rd pci bus on a dell poweredge 2400? It all works fine on a dell
> 2300 but on a 2400, freebsd does not see anything plugged into the
> expansion pci bus.
>
>  Is this fixed in some later version of freebsd? Is this a known
> problem? to give some background, the poweredge 2400 has onboard scsi as
> well (on the motherboard). We disabled that to try to isolate what the
> issue might be but that still did not help. The poweredge failed to
> recognize both an intel etherexpress pro 100 card and an adaptec 2940U2W
> card.
>
>  Thanks in advance,
>
> Andrew
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hmmm
i've been playing a bit with threads.  I'm running 3.3-RELEASE + SMP
(dual
pIII/450's)
anyway... i didn't mess with installing the linux_threads port
i noticed that there already is a pthread.h header file on my system
i was looking at the Parallel Processing HOWTO from the LDP (linux
documentation project)
i compiled and ran their sample code for computing Pi (the linear
version)
and THEN i dl'd /compiled/ ran the pthread version of computing Pi by
doing a

gcc -pthread file.c

it compiled right away and ran fine.

comparing "time" between the two binaries, i got a 16% increase in speed
using
the pthread version versus the linear version.

my question... what does all this mean as it relates to this thread? (no
pun
intended)
i ran across something somewhere where the linux_threads port was
outdated, or
already included in the 3.x versions..

just curious as to what all this means, as the code source was from a
Linux
HOWTO.

thanks!

Scott Hess wrote:

> As far as I can tell it doesn't even _compile_ under 3.x, much less
run,
> with or without SMP.
>
> Later,
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Sorry Sam, meant to reply all instead of just you alone...

I'm wondering the exact smaething myself about the MBR issue. Though, unless 
all you need is a file, or the kernel on some media then import it to c:\? I 
know there's way of using the NT Boot Loader to load FreeBSD, but I haven't 
had a chance to try itout yet myself.

And yes, I believe there are NTFS drivers.

>Here's the whole deal,
>
>I have a primary and secondary HDD (1.6 and 1.2 respectively) -
>on HD1 I have Windows NT , on HD2 I have Fat16 (which I'm using as a backup
>drive right now) -
>
>What I'm wanting to do is, install freebsd on Drive 2 and somehow add it to
>the NT boot.ini boot loader (if not, I suppose I will go with the FreeBSD
>boot loader) - I need to know if freebsd 3.3 supports NTFS -
>also, another scenario I'm worried about is -
>Say I install BSD - suddenly NT Crashes and I have to reload - fine -
>NT always overwrites the MBR - thus making it (impossible?) hard to get 
>into
>BSD again w/out reinstalling -
>can someone gimme some comments on all that?
>thanks
>-Sam
>
>
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-On [20000120 18:05], Jonathon McKitrick (jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) wrote:
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>What are RBL and DUL?

See http://maps.vix.com

Basically the default used blacklists for Sendmail servers.

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I'm resending this, because I got an error from hub.freebsd.org's postfix
saying freebsd-questions looped back to it's self or something. =)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:19:48 -0500 (EST)
From: matt 
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Subject: login_getclass problem


Hi,

I'm running 3.4-RELEASE and keep seeing thins like this pop up into my log
files:

syslog:Jan 19 09:15:00 s02 /USR/SBIN/CRON[703]: login_getclass: retrieving
class information: Permission denied

sshd:Jan 19 09:12:21 s02 sshd[688]: login_getclass: retrieving class
information: Permission denied

I've checked permissions on stuff like login.conf, login.conf.db, etc, and
I can't seem to find anything wrong. I have other very similar FreeBSD
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Hi,

    I think the xl will do.

Have Fun...
Ales

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> Which driver for 3C905C ?
>
> tia,
> Len
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I am not sure of my terminology for X-Windows, so I'll ask
this question as best I can:

I have a Linux RH 6.1 Workstation and a FreeBSD 3.4S Server
on my local network.  Both are running XFree86 3.3.X almost
full time.

Is it possible to open an Xterm window on my FreeBSD box
that connects to the Linux XFree server?  The reason I am
asking this question is that I was blocking access to the
ports at 6000+ on my firewall and I wondered how an
application like xterm could connect to a remote machine
thru these ports.

I have performed a half-baked scan of the documentation and
found a few references, but absolutely no details for
cook-booking the task.  Any pointers would be greatly
appreciated.

(I am also playing with tcp wrappers, so please respond thru
the mailing list as I have unknown servers blocked while I
build my hosts.allow file.)

Many Thanks,
*==============================================*
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Hi
	I am having real problems with linux_base install. I seems a few days=20
ago something changed and now it will not install the linux_base. When=20
its going through the RPM's it gets to the bash rpm and dies, saying=20
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Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote:
> 
> >RBL and DUL.  Plus some spammers we found and added.  For the remainder,
> >postmaster@freebsd.org is your friend, as George Cox said.
> 
> What are RBL and DUL?

	RBL stands for Realtime Blackhole List, see http://maps.vix.com/rbl/

	DUL stands for Dial-up User List, see http://maps.vix.com/dul/

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Rather than poking holes in your firewall, use ssh (found in
/usr/ports/security/openssh).  When built with X support, ssh sessions to
another machine will automatically send the X sessions through the
encrypted tunnel.  For example, you ssh from your Linux workstation to the
FreeBSD server, then start xterm on FreeBSD (in your ssh session) and it
will display on your Linux workstation.  This is both easier than
adjusting the firewall and more secure.

Ken Bolingbroke
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Gene Harris wrote:

> I am not sure of my terminology for X-Windows, so I'll ask
> this question as best I can:
> 
> I have a Linux RH 6.1 Workstation and a FreeBSD 3.4S Server
> on my local network.  Both are running XFree86 3.3.X almost
> full time.
> 
> Is it possible to open an Xterm window on my FreeBSD box
> that connects to the Linux XFree server?  The reason I am
> asking this question is that I was blocking access to the
> ports at 6000+ on my firewall and I wondered how an
> application like xterm could connect to a remote machine
> thru these ports.
> 
> I have performed a half-baked scan of the documentation and
> found a few references, but absolutely no details for
> cook-booking the task.  Any pointers would be greatly
> appreciated.
> 
> (I am also playing with tcp wrappers, so please respond thru
> the mailing list as I have unknown servers blocked while I
> build my hosts.allow file.)
> 
> Many Thanks,
> *==============================================*
> *Gene Harris      http://www.tetronsoftware.com*
> *FreeBSD Novice                                *
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On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 11:23:49AM -0500, Andriss wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> 
> Hello,
> 
> After reading the latest advisory on the make -j /tmp race I decided
> to post to the list a suggestion that could theoretically prevent or
> make significantly harder the /tmp races...
> 
> For example, if you set the following permissions on /tmp:
> 
> drwxrwx-wt   3 root  wheel      512 Jan 20 11:17 tmp
> 
> ... no ordinary users will be able to list the directory, but they
> can list (and fully use) their own files if they know what the file
> name is.  Now, users don't have to list the directory at all!
> They just have to be able to create the files, and use them.
> 
> 99% of the time, it's some program that creates that files for the
> user, for instance Pine. Not being able to list the directory would
> not break this behaviour..
> 
> A similar suggestion could also apply to vi.recover..

Security through obscurity.

This does not solve the race condition. It just gives the victim more
of a head start. The attacker needs to now make guesses at the file
name created. For many programs it is fixed (e.g. .) so
he might not even need to guess. For others it is typically
_XXXX where 'XXXX' is "random" characters. An attacker can
make a lot of guesses and cover most or all of the namespace.

A better method is for a user to make a 700 permission directory in
/tmp, although there are still some details to making even that
secure. 
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On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 11:19:18AM -0600, Sam Hays wrote:
> Here's the whole deal,
> 
> I have a primary and secondary HDD (1.6 and 1.2 respectively) -
> on HD1 I have Windows NT , on HD2 I have Fat16 (which I'm using as a backup
> drive right now) -
> 
> What I'm wanting to do is, install freebsd on Drive 2 and somehow add it to
> the NT boot.ini boot loader (if not, I suppose I will go with the FreeBSD
> boot loader)

See http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/admin.html#AEN1648 for details of how
it's done.

>  - I need to know if freebsd 3.3 supports NTFS -

Yes (read-only).

> also, another scenario I'm worried about is -
> Say I install BSD - suddenly NT Crashes

NT crash?, Nah, never :^)
 
> and I have to reload - fine -
> NT always overwrites the MBR - thus making it (impossible?) hard to get into
> BSD again w/out reinstalling -
> can someone gimme some comments on all that?

No problem. Since you're using the NT loader to boot FreeBSD you
*need* the NT MBR in place.

I've been triple booting Win95, NT4, and FreeBSD using the NT boot
mangler for ages now. Works just fine.

> thanks
> -Sam
> 
> 
> 
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On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 04:57:34PM +0000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> 
> I would have fixed this myself but i found out it is Perl, not C, and
> i also have too much to do today  (:
> 
> I used pkg_info -c to produce a script for updating ports.
> 
> Anyway, when outputting the path to a package that is 'unknown in
> index', the path is the path of the package previously processed.  For
> example, after showing the info, the pathname is obviously the path to
> mc (/usr/ports/misc/mc).  The next entry is mergemaster.  While the
> command to update is correct, the script outputs 'cd
> /usr/ports/misc/mc' and attempts to make megermaster from that
> location, which obviously will not work.  Has anyone else seen this? I
> just cvsupped today and it hasn't been fixed, if it truly is a bug.
> 

Yes, it's a bug. I spotted this when Nik first added the ``-c''
option. I e-mailed him about it, he sent me a patch, then I enhanced
Nik's fix. This was when pkg_version was in the ports. I thought Nik
had fixed it when it became part of the base system, obviously not.

Below is an e-mail I sent to Nik. It includes all the relevant info to
fix it (I don't have time to make a proper diff against the current
version - sorry).

HTH

On Thu, Nov 04, 1999 at 09:26:13PM +0000, Mark Ovens wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 04, 1999 at 05:42:59PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 02, 1999 at 08:17:21PM +0000, Mark Ovens wrote:
> > > I've applied your patches to pkg_version(1) but there seems to be
> > > a bug in the ``-c'' option. If a pkg doesn't appear in /usr/ports/INDEX
> > > then pkg_version(1) appears to be getting the commands mixed up
> > > with the previous package.
> > 
> > I can't duplicate this on my live system, which is a touch fragile
> > at the moment.  However, can you try this fix for me, and let me 
> > know if it works for you?
> > 
> > Go to line 257, you should be at a block of code that looks like
> > 
> >     else {
> >         $versionCode = "?";
> >         $Comment = "unknown in index";
> >     }
> > 
> > Can you change that, and add this line somewhere in the "else" 
> > block.
> > 
> >     $packagePath = $indexPackages{$packageName}{'path'};
> > 
> 
> OK, this sort of worked:
> 
> 	
> 	#
> 	#  xview-lib
> 	#  unknown in index
> 	#
> 	cd
> 	make
> 	pkg_delete -f xview-lib-3.2.1
> 	make install
> 
> I've made my own change that produces this:
> 
> 	
> 	#
> 	#  xview-lib
> 	#  unknown in index
> 	#
> 	pkg_delete -f xview-lib-3.2.1
> 
> which is perhaps more accurate?
> 
> The diff for it is below (apply to pkg_version *without* the
> one-liner you suggested).
> 
> NOTE! The limit of my perl programming has, up to now, been the
> ubiquitous "Hello, world" so I make no claims about my patch's
> respect for style(9), I just worked out what everything was doing
> and changed it :)
> 
> 
> *** /usr/local/bin/pkg_version.safe	Thu Nov  4 21:16:30 1999
> --- /usr/local/bin/pkg_version	Thu Nov  4 21:15:32 1999
> ***************
> *** 252,264 ****
>   		$Comment = "Comparison failed";
>   	    }
>   	}
>       }
>       else {
>   	$versionCode = "?";
>   	$Comment = "unknown in index";
> -     }
>   
> !     write;
>   }
>   
>   exit 0;
> --- 252,267 ----
>   		$Comment = "Comparison failed";
>   	    }
>   	}
> + 
> +     write;
>       }
>       else {
>   	$versionCode = "?";
>   	$Comment = "unknown in index";
>   
> ! 	$~ = "NOEXIST_COMMANDS" if $ShowCommandsFlag;
> ! 	write;
> !     }
>   }
>   
>   exit 0;
> ***************
> *** 299,304 ****
> --- 302,323 ----
>   pkg_delete -f @<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>                 $packageNameVer
>   make install
> + 
> + .
> +   ;
> + 
> + # Report that includes commands to update program (-c flag)
> + format NOEXIST_COMMANDS =
> + @<
> + $CommentChar  
> + @< @<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> + $CommentChar, $packageName
> + @< @<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> + $CommentChar, $Comment  
> + @<
> + $CommentChar
> + pkg_delete -f @<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> +               $packageNameVer
>   
>   .
>     ;
> 
> > This should get rid of the problem.  I'm not sure whether better behaviour
> > might be to just ignore entries that aren't in INDEX -- particularly as it
> > will soon be possible to have packages installed that aren't part of the
> > ports system (specifically, the docs).
> > 
> 
> Maybe, but it should at least report their existence.
> 
> > N
> > -- 
> > A different "distribution" of Linux is really a different operating system.  
> > They just refuse to call it that because it's bad press.  But that's what 
> > the shoe fits.
> >     -- Tom Christiansen, <199910211639.KAA18701@jhereg.perl.com>
> 
> -- 
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> OBSOLETE: Any computer you own.
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> 
> "The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long, and you have
> burned so very, very brightly."
> 
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I've read the vinum(4) and vinum(8) manpages as well as the webpages at
www.lemis.com/~grog/vinum.html, and while they are very good as far as
setup and configuration info, I haven't been able to find a lot of info
about recovering.  I have a stale subdisk that I can't get to recover no
matter how many different start commands I try.  I've tried starting the
volume, the plex, and the subdisk itself with no success.

# vinum list
Configuration summary

Drives:         3 (4 configured)
Volumes:        1 (4 configured)
Plexes:         1 (8 configured)
Subdisks:       3 (16 configured)

D vinumdrive0           State: up       Device /dev/da1s1e      Avail:
0/8683 MB (0%)
D vinumdrive1           State: up       Device /dev/da2s1e      Avail:
0/8683 MB (0%)
D vinumdrive2           State: up       Device /dev/da3s1e      Avail:
0/8683 MB (0%)

V ftp_mirror            State: up       Plexes:       1 Size:         25
GB

P ftp_mirror.p0       S State: corrupt  Subdisks:     3 Size:         25
GB

S ftp_mirror.p0.s0      State: up       PO:        0  B Size:       8683
MB
S ftp_mirror.p0.s1      State: up       PO:      256 kB Size:       8683
MB
S ftp_mirror.p0.s2      State: stale    PO:      512 kB Size:       8683
MB

# vinum start ftp_mirror.p0.s2
Can't start ftp_mirror.p0.s2: Device busy (16)

# vinum start ftp_mirror.p0
Can't start ftp_mirror.p0.s2: Device busy (16)

# vinum start ftp_mirror
ftp_mirror is already up

# vinum stop
vinum unloaded

# vinum start
Warning: defective objects

P ftp_mirror.p0       S State: corrupt  Subdisks:     3 Size:         25
GB
S ftp_mirror.p0.s2      State: stale    PO:      512 kB Size:       8683
MB

Any help is greatly appreciated.

John Baldwin
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>This does not solve the race condition. It just gives the victim more
>of a head start. The attacker needs to now make guesses at the file
>name created. For many programs it is fixed (e.g. .) so
>he might not even need to guess. For others it is typically
>_XXXX where 'XXXX' is "random" characters. An attacker can
>make a lot of guesses and cover most or all of the namespace.

Yes, but there is a large number of pids, and if a user cannot list
processes of other users, it would be blind guessing. If a system is
configured to disallow ps -a and other ps combinations (for a user, a
terminal, etc) and /proc is mounted with different permissions, and a
few other modifications are made, the number of guesses required to
make the right one would be so large that system accounting would
catch that process. If you have a limit on CPU consumption by users,
such a brute-force resource hog would be killed off by resource
limiting... Anyway, the point is: the system can be configured so that
guessing the filename is a difficult task..

>A better method is for a user to make a 700 permission directory in
>/tmp, although there are still some details to making even that
>secure. 

I agree, that would be more secure. The downside is that it would take
forever to patch all programs that use /tmp to use /tmp/username
instead and create (and permission) that directory properly. It is
good idea though... Maybe a directory in /tmp should be created
along with the directory in /home and permissioned properly
by the adduser script?


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Hi,

On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, R Joseph Wright wrote:

> It almost invariably crashes when doing any "big" task like redrawing
> the entire screen.  What happens is it either locks up and will not
> continue, or it begins filling my desktop with duplicate gimp windows.  
> I've never had any luck with the development version.

Huh...  I was just screwing around the other day w/ a 1280x1024 full color
image and changing the levels, playing w/ the filters, etc with no
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 1/20/00, 7:17:18 PM, Stephen Burley  wrote
regarding Linux_base:


> Hi
>       I am having real problems with linux_base install. I seems a few=

days=3D20
> ago something changed and now it will not install the linux_base.
When=3D20
> its going through the RPM's it gets to the bash rpm and dies,
saying=3D20
> it can not install this package. This has been tried on a brand new=3D=
20
> install of Freebsd3.2 stable and still fails - this is after the cv=3D=
20
> ports tree has been updated. Any ideas?

> Regards,

> Stephen Burley



Dear Stephen Burlewy,

This is just an attempt at guessing your problem ...
Please provide more detail next time :-)



AFAICS, there are two linux_base versions: ver 5.2 and ver 6.1 in the
ports collection. You might want to use such a command like
"pkg_version -v | more " to get information on this. Also, you might
want to issue such a command as "pkg_info | lpr -Praw" to have your
installed packages printed.

I include this little pieces of infomation in the hope they may be
useful and help you in general with maintaing ports. Please note: in
some specific cases (e.g. metaports) more radical solutions might be
necessary to get them working. There's been a recent thread on
metaport woes ...

The archives are a valuable source of information, please browse them.


---------------------------------------------------------------------

Stephen P. Cravey wrote,
> I'd like to upgrade the versions of some of my installed programs from=

> ports.  I can cvsup new ports, but before I do, I have a few
questions.
>
> Are there several ports trees I can cvsup (ports-stable,
ports-current,
> ports-really-really-buggy)?

No.

> Do I need to 'make deinstall' all of the programs i've previeously
> installed from the ports collection before I cvsup the new ports?
After I
> cvsup the new ports? at all? when?

The ports tree has nothing to do with installed, running software. If
the program works now, it will operate in the exact same manner.

It is analogous to CVSup'ing the FreeBSD source tree. Nothing on the
running system is changed until you 'make world'.

> Do I need to worry about a new version of a port not working on my
> 3.1-stable system?

Most ports should work fine across all 3.x systems. Most will even be
fine for 2.2.8.

> Will cron-ing a ports cvsup cause any problems for installed programs?=

> upgrading or removing them?

No.

Well, that is not true. When version numbers change, you will not be
able to 'make deinstall' a port. However, this is easily worked around
by doing a 'pkg_delete '.

> basically, how the heck do I do this without messing up my system?

CVSup'ing the ports tree cannot mess anything up until you go into a
port and type 'make '.
--
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"Stephen P. Cravey"  writes:

> I'd like to upgrade the versions of some of my installed programs from=

> ports.  I can cvsup new ports, but before I do, I have a few
questions.
>
> Are there several ports trees I can cvsup (ports-stable,
ports-current,
> ports-really-really-buggy)?

There's just one ports tree -current.  In cvsup I use:
ports-all tag=3D. prefix=3D/usr

> Do I need to 'make deinstall' all of the programs i've previeously
> installed from the ports collection before I cvsup the new ports?
After I
> cvsup the new ports? at all? when?

Only when you're about to do a `make install' of a new port.  Then you
should pkg_delete the old one.  BTW `make deinstall' won't work unless
the version of the new port is the same as the one installed, in which
case you probably don't need to re-install it anyway.

> Do I need to worry about a new version of a port not working on my
> 3.1-stable system?

Rarely.  Only when the new port relies on a feature that's not present
in 3.1.  If it does it would usually fail in the `make all' so you'd
know not to `make install'.  Don't pkg_delete the old one until the
make all has succeeded.

> Will cron-ing a ports cvsup cause any problems for installed programs?=

> upgrading or removing them?

No. It will update the ports tree in /usr/ports but not install any
new ports until you `make install' one of them.

> basically, how the heck do I do this without messing up my system?

Should be no problem.  Have fun.

--
Kevin Street
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The following letter should contain contain the complete recipe.
N.B. pkg_delete should belong to the base system now.

----------------------------------------------------------------------


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen P. Cravey [SMTP:cravey@hal-pc.org]
> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 2:43 PM
> To:   freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject:      Upgrading ports and existing programs
>
> I'd like to upgrade the versions of some of my installed programs from=

> ports.  I can cvsup new ports, but before I do, I have a few
questions.
>
> Are there several ports trees I can cvsup (ports-stable,
ports-current,
> ports-really-really-buggy)?
>
> Do I need to 'make deinstall' all of the programs i've previeously
> installed from the ports collection before I cvsup the new ports?
After I
> cvsup the new ports? at all? when?
>
        Ok, this one answer I haven't seen yet in all of the replies.

        1. What one would normally do is the following.
        2. cvsup ports.
        3. run "pkg_version" to find out which ports have been
           updated. (pkg_delete is also found in the ports
            collection.)
        4. run a "make all" in the port so you know it will compile
           successfully.
        5. "pkg_delete" the old version of the port.
        6. run a "make install" in the port's directory.

> Do I need to worry about a new version of a port not working on my
> 3.1-stable system?
>
> Will cron-ing a ports cvsup cause any problems for installed programs?=

> upgrading or removing them?
>
> basically, how the heck do I do this without messing up my system?
>
> Thank you.
>
> -Stephen


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On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 02:08:22PM -0500, Andriss wrote:
[snip]
> >A better method is for a user to make a 700 permission directory in
> >/tmp, although there are still some details to making even that
> >secure. 
> 
> I agree, that would be more secure. The downside is that it would take
> forever to patch all programs that use /tmp to use /tmp/username
> instead and create (and permission) that directory properly. It is
> good idea though... Maybe a directory in /tmp should be created
> along with the directory in /home and permissioned properly
> by the adduser script?

The best way to go is to for programs to call functions like
tmpfile(3). Then security upgrades can just be done to the library
functions. tmpfile(3) would take care of creating or using an existing
secure temp dir on its own.

And BTW, my .login creates a 600 directory in /var/tmp and then sets
TMPDIR to that directory. This helps for the many programs that use
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>And BTW, my .login creates a 600 directory in /var/tmp and then sets
>TMPDIR to that directory. This helps for the many programs that use
>TMPDIR.

My server has /usr/tmp and /var/tmp pointing to /tmp which is
a special partition mounted to disallow execution, suid and
other stuff you don't want people to do on /tmp.

Creating a temp dir in /tmp is a good idea though, I might
put it in the global profile for the server...

Question: don't you mean 700 directory?

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I've been trying to build 3.4-STABLE for a week or more and have been
getting the same error. The last run was CVSup'd yesterday, and I've
already successfully built 3.4-STABLE on this one's sister machine. The
problem machine is running 3.2-STABLE and the spot where buildworld craps
out is always in compiling usr.bin/dosemu:

[...]
cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/X11R6/include -DDISASSEMBLER   -I/usr/obj/usr3/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr3/src/usr.bin/doscmd/tty.c
/usr3/src/usr.bin/doscmd/tty.c: In function `debug_event':
/usr3/src/usr.bin/doscmd/tty.c:737: warning: passing arg 1 of `dump_regs' from incompatible pointer type
/usr3/src/usr.bin/doscmd/tty.c: In function `tty_read':
/usr3/src/usr.bin/doscmd/tty.c:1745: warning: passing arg 1 of `fake_int' from incompatible pointer type
/usr3/src/usr.bin/doscmd/tty.c: In function `tty_peek':
/usr3/src/usr.bin/doscmd/tty.c:1787: warning: passing arg 1 of `fake_int' from incompatible pointer type
/usr3/src/usr.bin/doscmd/tty.c: In function `video_init':
/usr3/src/usr.bin/doscmd/tty.c:2000: warning: passing arg 2 of `register_callback' from incompatible pointer type
/usr3/src/usr.bin/doscmd/tty.c: In function `video_bios_init':
/usr3/src/usr.bin/doscmd/tty.c:2212: warning: passing arg 2 of `register_callback' from incompatible pointer type
cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/X11R6/include -DDISASSEMBLER   -I/usr/obj/usr3/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr3/src/usr.bin/doscmd/xms.c
cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/X11R6/include -DDISASSEMBLER   -I/usr/obj/usr3/src/tmp/usr/include  -o doscmd AsyncIO.o ParseBuffer.o bios.o callback.o cpu.o dos.o cmos.o config.o cwd.o debug.o disktab.o doscmd.o ems.o emuint.o exe.o i386-pinsn.o int.o int10.o int13.o int14.o int16.o int17.o int1a.o int2f.o intff.o mem.o mouse.o net.o port.o setver.o signal.o timer.o trace.o trap.o tty.o xms.o  -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11
tty.o: In function `video_setborder':
tty.o(.text+0x25f): undefined reference to `XSetWindowBackground'
tty.o: In function `setgc':
tty.o(.text+0x2f5): undefined reference to `XChangeGC'
tty.o: In function `video_update':
tty.o(.text+0x50e): undefined reference to `XDrawImageString'
tty.o(.text+0x597): undefined reference to `XDrawImageString'
tty.o(.text+0x68a): undefined reference to `XChangeGC'
tty.o(.text+0x712): undefined reference to `XFillRectangle'
tty.o(.text+0x7be): undefined reference to `XChangeGC'
tty.o(.text+0x7fb): undefined reference to `XFillRectangle'
tty.o(.text+0x809): undefined reference to `XFlush'
tty.o: In function `debug_event':
tty.o(.text+0xc48): undefined reference to `XBell'
tty.o(.text+0xc53): undefined reference to `XFlush'
tty.o: In function `video_async_event':
tty.o(.text+0x1233): undefined reference to `XFlush'
tty.o(.text+0x124b): undefined reference to `XNextEvent'
tty.o(.text+0x12c7): undefined reference to `XFlush'
tty.o(.text+0x12fc): undefined reference to `XNextEvent'
tty.o: In function `video_event':
tty.o(.text+0x17f4): undefined reference to `XLookupString'
tty.o(.text+0x1978): undefined reference to `XLookupString'
tty.o: In function `tty_write':
tty.o(.text+0x27fe): undefined reference to `XBell'
tty.o: In function `KbdWrite':
tty.o(.text+0x3083): undefined reference to `XBell'
tty.o: In function `video_init':
tty.o(.text+0x33e1): undefined reference to `XOpenDisplay'
tty.o(.text+0x3408): undefined reference to `XDisplayName'
tty.o(.text+0x34df): undefined reference to `XAllocNamedColor'
tty.o(.text+0x3532): undefined reference to `XLoadQueryFont'
tty.o(.text+0x354e): undefined reference to `XLoadQueryFont'
tty.o(.text+0x3629): undefined reference to `XCreateSimpleWindow'
tty.o(.text+0x368c): undefined reference to `XCreateGC'
tty.o(.text+0x36c3): undefined reference to `XCreateGC'
tty.o(.text+0x36e0): undefined reference to `XSetNormalHints'
tty.o(.text+0x370a): undefined reference to `XSelectInput'
tty.o(.text+0x371e): undefined reference to `XMapWindow'
tty.o(.text+0x3729): undefined reference to `XFlush'
*** Error code 1

Stop.
[...]

Now, I've never installed or run X-windows on this machine, but that's
never been a problem before. And yes, I always do a 'make clean && make
buildworld'[*] I don't recall seeing this in the lists, so it seems likely
to be my configuration that it doesn't like... anybody got a clue where I
should start looking?

TIA

-Dave

[*] Specifically, I am doing 'make clear && make -DNOGAMES -DNOINFO
buildworld' and the machine is a 486DX66. The failure is around the 16
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Hello all, 

I am thinking about completely reconfiguring my system. I am considering purchasing an internal SCSI Jaz drive and modifying my system so the Jaz drive becomes my boot drive. It is then my hope to be able to change operating systems by changing Jaz disks.

My questions are:
FreeBSD supposedly supports Jaz drives, does anyone have experience with them? If so, how easy are the SCSI ones to get working with FreeBSD?

Can you boot FreeBSD from a Jaz drive? (according to Iomega you can boot NT from a Jaz drive...)

Does anyone see any major flaws with this concept?

My thanks, 
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I am not sure of my terminology for X-Windows, so I'll ask
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I have a Linux RH 6.1 Workstation and a FreeBSD 3.4S Server
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Is it possible to open an Xterm window on my FreeBSD box
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> Hello all,
>
> I am thinking about completely reconfiguring my system. I am
> considering purchasing an internal SCSI Jaz drive and
> modifying my system so the Jaz drive becomes my boot drive.
> It is then my hope to be able to change operating systems by
> changing Jaz disks.
>
> My questions are:
> FreeBSD supposedly supports Jaz drives, does anyone have
> experience with them? If so, how easy are the SCSI ones to
> get working with FreeBSD?
>
> Can you boot FreeBSD from a Jaz drive? (according to Iomega
> you can boot NT from a Jaz drive...)
>
> Does anyone see any major flaws with this concept?


The only problem I can think of would be the disks them selves. They are
***VERY*** easily damaged and what is on them is not so easily replaced.


Good luck.


Erin



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From RFC 1925, point #3

"(3)  With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is
      not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they
      are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them
      as they fly overhead."



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On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 03:01:56PM -0500, dgason@mindspring.com wrote:

> My questions are:
> FreeBSD supposedly supports Jaz drives, does anyone have experience with them? If so, how easy are the SCSI ones to get working with FreeBSD?

Got one, working fine.

> Can you boot FreeBSD from a Jaz drive? (according to Iomega you can boot NT from a Jaz drive...)
> 

Haven't tried this, though the SCSI card appears to let one boot from
a specific SCSI device.

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installed INN.  A friend of mine has recently installed Dnews... should =
I be using that instead?  What are the pros and cons?  I must say I'm =
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Hey everyone, I've been having a lot of =
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I would say if it is not broke, don't fix it.... but, I'd backup the current
config and try the new one. If you don't like it, just go back.




Erin



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From RFC 1925, point #3

"(3)  With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is
      not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they
      are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them
      as they fly overhead."

  -----Original Message-----
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  Hey everyone, I've been having a lot of fun with this news stuff lately.
I started with Cnews & NNTP, and now I've removed all that crap and
installed INN.  A friend of mine has recently installed Dnews... should I be
using that instead?  What are the pros and cons?  I must say I'm quite
pleased with INN, it does everything I want.

  At the very least maybe someone could give me reason to argue with my
friend. :) hahaha j/k...

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However, this=20
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      not necessarily a good idea. It is =
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Hey everyone, I've been having a lot =
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I've=20
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pros and=20
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I=20
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INN tends to need MMAP to work - it also requires a lot of ram if you have
a full feed etc.  We had to leave it for dnews for those and other
reasons.

On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, David Fuchs wrote:

> Hey everyone, I've been having a lot of fun with this news stuff lately.  I started with Cnews & NNTP, and now I've removed all that crap and installed INN.  A friend of mine has recently installed Dnews... should I be using that instead?  What are the pros and cons?  I must say I'm quite pleased with INN, it does everything I want.
> 
> At the very least maybe someone could give me reason to argue with my friend. :) hahaha j/k...
> 
> -David Fuchs
> 



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>INN tends to need MMAP to work - it also requires a lot of ram if you have
>a full feed etc.  We had to leave it for dnews for those and other
>reasons.

That's funny.  I've been running it without MMAP since it first came out.

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:) Me too.

    The question still stands however, which is the better program to use
for a full time news server?  I don't care about which is easier to set up,
but what I do care about is which is the most stable, the fastest, and the
most scalable (if scalability even applies for news)?

----- Original Message -----
From: Mitch Collinsworth 
To: Steve Hovey 
Cc: David Fuchs ; 
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: INN vs. DNews


>
> >INN tends to need MMAP to work - it also requires a lot of ram if you
have
> >a full feed etc.  We had to leave it for dnews for those and other
> >reasons.
>
> That's funny.  I've been running it without MMAP since it first came out.
>
> -Mitch
>



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Neill Robins wrote:
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> Hello,
> 
> I am trying to unsubscribe from -questions so I can subscribe under another
> account.  The problem is that I have tried to unsubscribe 3 times,
> unsuccessfully.  I have managed to unsubscribe from -newbies and -chat.

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need more help after reading the handbook URL below]

On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 at 21:37:49 +0000, Ta Do wrote:
> Hi Jim

Hi,

> I would like to download FreeBSD but I don't know how. Please show me
> how to do.

Read through http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html and follow the
instructions located there.  If you still have questions after doing so,
send a message to questions@FreeBSD.org detailing what exactly it is you
don't understand, and more than likely someone there will be willing to
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Jonathon McKitrick  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > Well, i've narrowed it down with echo statements in all my config
 > files.  Here is the really bizarre part: when i su to root, i have to
 > use su -l, and it executes .profile, NOT .zprofile, but .profile
 > (which is for bash, right?)

.profile is sh (So I guess you're using "su -l toor" or
something, because root has a csh as login shell, no sh).

 > I read the man page, and it says NOTHING
 > about .profile being executed, only .zprofile.

Correct, zsh reads .zprofile by default (among others).

 > Why is this file being
 > executed, and why does -m clobber my alias settings?  All the other
 > env variables stay the same with the im option.

What version of the zsh is that?  The latest is 3.0.7.
It works for me (using "su -m").

Regards
   Oliver

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On 19-Jan-00 at 15:15, Walter Brameld (brameld@twave.net) wrote:
> How does one go about finding reliable time sources?

There's a very good chance that the router at the upstream end of
your link is an NTP server.  Try a traceroute to almost anywhere
to get the FQDN or IP address of the router; then try ntptrace
to the router to see if it will serve you NTP.


-Pat


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>:) Me too.
>
>    The question still stands however, which is the better program to use
>for a full time news server?  I don't care about which is easier to set up,
>but what I do care about is which is the most stable, the fastest, and the
>most scalable (if scalability even applies for news)?

Scalability seems to matter as much for news as anything else.  Look
how much it grows.  I really can't answer for DNews since I've never
even looked at it, but I've been running the same version of INN for 7
years (on the same now-ancient machine) and the only thing holding it
back is lack of disk space.  It has been increadibly stable over that
period even though I'm probably many versions behind by now.  I've
applied a few security fixed over the years and have had to rebuild the
history file maybe once every year or two.  FWIW I _am_ planning on
building a new server sometime in the next several weeks.  Ludditism
does have it's limits.  :-)

-Mitch


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Crist J. Clark  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > [...]
 > seems to have muddled my thoughts this morning. Why does this happen:
 > 
 > $ echo 3 | read NUM
 > $ echo $NUM  
 > 

Because the read command is executed in a subshell when it is
in a pipe.  When the pipe ends, the subshell terminates, and
its environment variables are gone.

 > [...]  Why does it look like
 > read won't read from a piped stdin?

It does read from the pipe, but the variable is only set in the
subshell.  It does not change the environment of the parent
shell process.

You usually solve this problem by using command substitution
("backticks"):

   NUM=`echo 3`

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Received my 3.4 CDs recently and did an upgrade
on my gateway machine (I4B).

Wanted to build a custom kernel today and got this:


# uname -a
FreeBSD bgate.dialup.rwth-aachen.de 3.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE #0: Mon Dec 20 06:54:39 GMT 1999     jkh@time.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC  i386
# cd /sys/i386/conf
# ls
BGATEBISDN              Makefile.i386           l1
BGATEI4B                PCCARD                  majors.i386
CONFIG                  devices.i386            options.i386
GENERIC                 files.i386              options.i386-BACKUP
LINT                    files.i386-BACKUP
MONKAVMIFB              l
# config BGATEI4B^H^H^H^C
# stty erase  ^H
# config BGATEI4B
BGATEI4B:0: unknown option "MAXUSERS"
BGATEI4B:85: unknown option "IPI_DIPA"
BGATEI4B:84: unknown option "IPI_VJ"
BGATEI4B:34: unknown option "BROKEN_KEYBOARD_RESET"
BGATEI4B:28: unknown option "IPDIVERT"
BGATEI4B:23: unknown option "FAILSAFE"
BGATEI4B:19: unknown option "COMPAT_43"
BGATEI4B:16: unknown option "MSDOSFS"
BGATEI4B:15: unknown option "NFS"
BGATEI4B:14: unknown option "FFS"
BGATEI4B:13: unknown option "INET"
WARNING: version of config(8) does not match kernel!
config version = 300009, version required = 220000

Make sure that /usr/src/usr.sbin/config is in sync
with your /usr/src/sys and install a new config binary
before trying this again.

If running the new config fails check your config
file against the GENERIC or LINT config files for
changes in config syntax, or option/device naming
conventions

Unknown options used - it is VERY important that you do
         make clean && make depend
before recompiling
Warning: pseudo-device "log" is unknown
Kernel build directory is ../../compile/BGATEI4B
# which config
/usr/sbin/config
# ls -l /usr/sbin/config
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  62560 Dec 20 06:52 /usr/sbin/config
#  

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Gabor Esperon  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > I have a C-Media 8338 sound card, FreeBSD 3.3 with
 > linux comp., and CM8338 Linux drivers. I need install
 > the drivers under FreeBSD, how i can do that?

You can't.  Linux drivers don't work under FreeBSD.
You might try to look for a FreeBSD driver on
http://www.opensound.com/

Regards
   Oliver

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No Sir, I actually have sent all three messages to majordomo@freebsd.org.

Like I stated earlier, both -newbies and -chat unsubscribe attempts were 
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Thanks.

Neill Robins



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>      but do them with enthusiasm.  Colette.
>
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On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 04:18:08PM +0100, Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr wrote:

> Is this brand the only one for supported multi-port NICs ?

I don't think so - as long as an Ethernet adapter card pretens to have
independent network interfaces, this shouldn't be a problem. I've yet
only used older SMC dual-port cards (DEC21040 based, I think the name
was something like 8432) and D-Link 570 TX (also DEC based, quad port,
recognized as four de type interfaces) and both run fine.

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Martin
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INN and DNEWS where pretty even until DNEWS released version 5. They
totally reinvented the way the server gets rid of stale files (expires),
and the server can be configured to spawn child processes. (If one news
server isn't enough, run 2, or 3 or ..). We have 2 full IHAVE feeds
inbound (UUNET and C&W), we feed two corporate downline servers (one
suck feed, one IHAVE) and usually have around 900 users online. All of
this on a P200pro, 96mb RAM, and 50gb of ide disk. And we have server to
spare. We run our tucows mirror on the same box. (Of course, I firmly
beleive that 3x-stable is making all of this possible ;)
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Ok, thanks to i4b, my isdn connection is more or less up and running
and I do my best to ignore the "File exists" error by ifconfig. But I
still don't get the whole dilup setup done correctly. The world was
just so much easier with a steady internet connection. :->

How does one setup a DNS lookup? I am planning to use leafnode+ to
fetch news for me. Leafnode+ is started via inetd with the following
entry in /etc/inetd.conf:

------- cut -------
nntp    stream  tcp     nowait  news    /usr/local/sbin/leafnode leafnode
------- cut -------

Nothing special, I would say. Whenever I do a 'telnet localhost nntp',
I get the following syslog message:

------- cut -------
Jan 20 20:55:07 arthur leafnode[671]: unable to parse server (server news.cs.uni-magdeburg.de has no =)
------- cut -------

Ok, so I put the ip address of this news.cs machine in /etc/hosts:

------- cut -------
141.44.21.70            loriot loriot.cs.uni-magdeburg.de news news.cs.uni-magdeburg.de
------- cut -------

/etc/host.conf is of course

------- cut -------
hosts
bind
------- cut -------

The above error message stays the same. That's why I thought having a
little own named would be a nice idea. 

That's the try for /etc/resolv.conf:

------- cut -------
nameserver 127.0.0.1
nameserver 141.44.1.2
nameserver 141.44.1.1
domain uni-magdeburg.de
------- cut -------

with the following in /etc/rc.conf:

------- cut -------
named_enable="YES"		# Run named, the DNS server (or NO).
named_program="named"           # path to named, if you want a different one.
named_flags="-u bind -g bind"	# Flags for named
------- cut -------

That was bad as the machine was opening a new connection every ten
minutes (for exactly 145 seconds as /var/log/isdnd.acct is telling
me). Even though named is telling me via syslog that it is "Ready to
answer queries." the above error message by leafnode+ stays the same. 

I am more or less out of ideas and would very much appreciate any
pointers to possible errors in my setup, things I missed, and manpages
I should consult to proceed.

	Roland


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I was wondering, when FreeBSD swaps memory to the hard disk, does it swap a 
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within a program.  I was wondering because I have a program which will be 
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Depends on how good a time source you want. I tested routers as NTP
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Hi there 
i want to ask a simple question on x-windows. the
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On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 10:40:08PM +0100, Oliver Fromme wrote:
> Crist J. Clark  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
>  > [...]
>  > seems to have muddled my thoughts this morning. Why does this happen:
>  > 
>  > $ echo 3 | read NUM
>  > $ echo $NUM  
>  > 
> 
> Because the read command is executed in a subshell when it is
> in a pipe.  When the pipe ends, the subshell terminates, and
> its environment variables are gone.

*grumble-grumble*

I could swear I have done this in the past.

[snip]

> You usually solve this problem by using command substitution
> ("backticks"):
> 
>    NUM=`echo 3`

That is what I ususally do if the command generating the output is
short. There are two reasons I do not want to do this,

(1) The command generating the output is long. (An awk command-line
    program being fed by another pipe.)

(2) A read would break up the output just the way I want. (The output
    happens to be a number followed by a date(1)-type string. A 
    'read NUM DATE' command would break it up exactly how I want.)

And although it does not impact me, there is another reason, and one
of the best ones, that someone would rather pipe to read than
backtick,

(3) The backticked argument cannot have nested backticks.

Anyway, I guess I need to find a workaround. I figured I was missing
something obvious (something I already knew). Thanks for pointing it
out.
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On Wed, Jan 19, 2000 at 11:58:13PM +0000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

> How can i have toor use a different shell without adding a toor home
> directory, which i am not supposed to need?

I used vipw and added the home directory at the end of the `toor' line.

    toor:*:0:0:Bourne-again Superuser:/root:/bin/sh

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On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 10:59:45AM +0530, SIVARAM N wrote:
> Hi,
> I hope this is the right list to ask...
> 
> I have 2 questions actually.
> 
> 1. I have a comma separated records in a file where most fields have
>    leading whitespaces. Setting FS="," & reading the file preserves
>    the leading whitespaces. How do I remove them?

You can remove leading whitespace with sed(1) or perl(1).  Then pipe
the input to awk(1), and you're ready to go, i.e. use something like:

	sed -e 's/^[ ]*//' < datafile |\
	awk '{ ... }'

> 2. How can you find out whether the end of file has been reached for
>    a specific file given multiple files?

I don't want to start anything like a flame here, but since you do not
seem to be very acquainted with awk(1), and I know that Perl does this
as easily as:

	# open the file for reading.
	$datafile = "/path/to/datafile";
	open(HANDLE, "< $datafile") || die "read error opening $datafile";

	# read the entire file in an array.
	@array = ;

Then with $array[0] you get the first line, $array[1] the second, and
so on... you get the point.  Oh, and the nice thing about Perl is that
you can remove leading whitespace without filtering the input from sed. 
This can be done even when processing the lines themselves, as in:

	$k = 0;
	while ($k <= $#array) {
	    $array[$k] =~ s/^[\s]*//;
	    # do something on $array[$k] ...
	    $k++;
	}

It is little details like this one that have made me prefer perl for
data manipulation, but I don't want to push my opinion on anyone else. 
If you'd prefer to stick with awk, then you can ignore this post and
live happily ever after ;)

Ciao.

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On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 08:45:16AM +1000, Colin Campbell wrote:
> 
> What about "polling" using getppid(). If the parent dies, the PPID
> will change (to 1?), will it not?

Yes, if the parent catches SIGCHLD, I think that this is the rule.  But
it's still polling...

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On Wed, Jan 19, 2000 at 05:37:25PM -0500, ccba wrote:
> 
> I have two machines up with BSD 4.2 (PII 300 MHz and a PIII 500 MHz)
> 
> I want to run benchmarks on both machines.

"Benchmarks" is a very ill-defined term, if not mentioned within a
proper context.  The important thing is what these machines will be
used for, since, for instance, PIII might be better at number
crunching but PII a hell of a lot better in large file transfers.

> Can someone recommend good benchmark tests for these machines. Both
> will be internal ftp servers.

So you should care what these machines can do for you, if used as FTP
servers.  A small script to transfer a large file and great numbers of
smaller ones is the best I can come up with.  If the machines are
called `alpha' (the PII), `beta' (the PIII), and another machine is
called `gamma', I would try:

1. Transferring a large file:

	FROM	TO
	alpha	beta
	beta	alpha
	alpha	gamma
	gamma	alpha

Then I would run the same pairs of machines through the `bazillion of
small files' test, to see what they will do in that case.

Testing the number of concurrent users a machine can stand is a tougher
case, since it requires a far better machine (or a network of machines)
to initiate the bazillion of transfers.

Just my $.02 :-)

-- 
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Hello!

I was hoping to find some advice on network equipment for a small office.  I'm helping out a friend setup his business (a small Security Staffing Company) network, and I'm sort of stuck on price/performance issues.  It will be a mix of Windows 9x clients and FreeBSD servers.

At my job we use 3com hubs, switches and a mix of Intel and 3com netowrk adapters.  I have found great performance with the Intel network adapters and I also like their design (I love a nice clean visually appealing hardware design).

The network I'll be setting up will have about 5 users and possible a few more in the future.  They plan to hook up their Intranet to the Internet via a DSL line.

Now, I feel that 3com is pretty reliable but very expensive.  Intel on the other hand is also a good performer, but also a bit pricy (although better than 3com).  He's willing to spend around $2000 on the equipment, but I'd really like to get him the best price/performance I can.

I'm looking into Netgear equipment (because I use them at home and find the price reasonable).  Their stackable 16 port hubs and network adapters seem to be at a very good price, but I question their reliability and performance.  Does anyone have any experience with this equipment?

I'm also open to suggestions to other possible low cost/high performance solutions.

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>INN and DNEWS where pretty even until DNEWS released version 5. They
>totally reinvented the way the server gets rid of stale files (expires),
>and the server can be configured to spawn child processes. (If one news
>server isn't enough, run 2, or 3 or ..). We have 2 full IHAVE feeds
>inbound (UUNET and C&W), we feed two corporate downline servers (one
>suck feed, one IHAVE) and usually have around 900 users online. All of
>this on a P200pro, 96mb RAM, and 50gb of ide disk. And we have server to
>spare. We run our tucows mirror on the same box. (Of course, I firmly
>beleive that 3x-stable is making all of this possible ;)

Well since I'm preparing to build a new server soon I will consider
DNEWS, too.  :-)  One thing you mentioned reminds me of a question I've
been pondering.  Disks.  You said you're using 50 GB IDE.  I have no IDE
experience (yet) but recent discussions had left me wondering if IDE was
really up to the challenge of news.  I've been torn between buying new
IDE drives and throwing some existing towers filled with 2 GB SCSI drives
at it.  (Yes, I have a lot of old 2 GB drives, 7 to a box.) Given the I/O
profile of news I'm not yet convinced the IDE drives would be faster.

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FYI, I've heard of an FTP benchmark called "ftp monkey".

	http://www.ncftp.com/ncftpd/perf.html

You'd have to contact them to determine if the source is available.

Charles

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On Wed, Jan 19, 2000 at 05:37:25PM -0500, ccba wrote:
> 
> I have two machines up with BSD 4.2 (PII 300 MHz and a PIII 500 MHz)
> 
> I want to run benchmarks on both machines.

"Benchmarks" is a very ill-defined term, if not mentioned within a
proper context.  The important thing is what these machines will be
used for, since, for instance, PIII might be better at number
crunching but PII a hell of a lot better in large file transfers.

> Can someone recommend good benchmark tests for these machines. Both
> will be internal ftp servers.

So you should care what these machines can do for you, if used as FTP
servers.  A small script to transfer a large file and great numbers of
smaller ones is the best I can come up with.  If the machines are
called `alpha' (the PII), `beta' (the PIII), and another machine is
called `gamma', I would try:

1. Transferring a large file:

	FROM	TO
	alpha	beta
	beta	alpha
	alpha	gamma
	gamma	alpha

Then I would run the same pairs of machines through the `bazillion of
small files' test, to see what they will do in that case.

Testing the number of concurrent users a machine can stand is a tougher
case, since it requires a far better machine (or a network of machines)
to initiate the bazillion of transfers.

Just my $.02 :-)

-- 
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Subject: Re: misc/16231: CD audio wont work: a solution (?)
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 1/20/00, 9:58:46 PM, sfugarino@immucor.com wrote regarding
misc/16231: CD audio wont work.:

> I installed FreeBSD 3.3 on my machine and recompiled the kernel to
support my sound card and other hardware. I got my sound card (AWE 64)
configured, but I some of the CD audio apps on my system won't work.
Kscd crashes  each times it starts as does xcd. I was able to get xmcd
to start, but it doesn't read the audio CD. My CD is /dev/acd0c and
most of these apps want /dev/rcd0. What do I need to do or where can I
go for info?




Dear Samuel E. Fugarino,

my SoundBlaster AWE64 works just fine on my system: FreeBSD
3.3-Release and KDE 1.1.2.

Please note: **KDE-1.1.2**

I ran into this problem under KDE-1.1.1 (the port shipping with 3.3.
Release).

You should CVSup your ports and install KDE-1.1.2. To accomplish this,
you might want to read the handbook *carefully*, look at the examples
in /usr/share/examples/cvsup, and **read** the FAQs found in
http://www.polstra.com


------------------- METAPORT WARNING NOTE ---------------------------

Some of us have had problems in upgrading from KDE-1.1.1 to 1.1.2,
probably because the metaport mechanism is cheated into believing it
has some of the new components already on the system. Personally, I
have completely succeeded in the upgrade process by uninstalling
**all** the KDE-1.1.1-related packages, and by even (paranoidly ...)
deleting (or renaming, if you prefer) the old KDE-1.1.1 tarballs.

The metaport mechanism found no way to be cheated any longer, and
downloaded, built and installed my new shining gleaming roaring
KDE-1.1.2.=20

As to the specific AWE64 configuration issue, you might want to read
the following recent epistolary exchange of mine:

---------------------------------------------------------------------

Salvo Bartolotta wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
> On 1/14/00, 8:17:18 PM, Otter  wrote regarding R=
e:
> SoundBlaster Vibra16:
>
> > Chris Silva wrote:
>
> > > Could somebody be good enough to let me in on how to setup the
> > > above sound card in 3.4?
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >                  Chris
>
> > i can only assume that you didn't bother to look for docs yet, as yo=
u
> > should have. i'm feeling generous since i'm confident that the
> dolphins
> > are going to make the jaguars bend over and grab their ankles
> tomorrow,
> > so here goes:
> > go read up on /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/snd/CARDS for the general info a=
nd
> > pnp line for the kernel if you need it.
> > I don't have a Vibra, but i do have an old SB16 value model, as well=

> as
> > an AWE64 value sound card. they both work with the same configuratio=
n
> in
> > the kernel, and i use the pcm0 driver for mine. i have a
> > device          pcm0     at isa? port? tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15
> > no pnp0 references in the kernel, just this one line...
> > i don't know if this will work for you, but the docs group the vibra=

> with
> > the other stuff. i'm just giving you a line for the plain sb16 and
> awe64.
> > i hope this was of help... and don't forget: GO MIAMI!
> > -Otter
>
> Dear Otter,
>
> I am running 3.3-Release and I have tried the following solutions for
> my Soundblaster AWE64:
>
> 1) "pcm" solution, same options as yours: it seems to work just fine.
> My kernel says: pcm0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 on isa
>
> BTW, the .../snd/README is not particularly clear. It seems to suggest=

> adding a "controller pnp0" option. Since I had already configured the
> card under Linux, it wasn't too difficult to guess the correct line
> (no pnp0 option).

i should have clarified that. when i put the "pnp line... if you need
it" comment in, i should have mentioned that the pnp line is needed=20
when
using the snd0 route as you mentioned. and thanks for adding detail to=20
this.
I have a stereo system for my audio cd's. i just use the sound card=20
for
mp3's here. i wasn't aware of the lack of audio cd support. since you=20
said
this, i installed wmmixer and can see that it won't allow me to turn a
microphone on either. i don't need it. no big deal, but thanks for the=20
info.

> A look at the log messages in fact suggested
> deleting the pnp0 option. Also, midi and wavetable synthesis are NOT
> supported by my pcm driver (the stock driver, ie not updated),
> according to the README.
>
> 2) "snd" solution, with the following kernel options:
>     controller  pnp0
>     controller  snd0
>     device      sb0           at isa?   port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1
>     device      sbxvi0  at isa?     drq 5
>     device        sbmidi0       at isa? port 0x330
>     device      opl0          at isa?   port 0x388
>
> I found this last configuration ... again by a little trial and error.=

> Well, actually, the card is recognized as "SoundBlaster 16 4.16", but
> it works: in KDE, I can listen to music CDs, which is all I was
> looking for.
>
> My kernel says:
> Probing for PnP devices:
> CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL00c5 [0xc5008c0e] Serial 0x039632f7 Comp ID:
> PNPb02f [0x2fb0d041]
> [omissis ...]
> sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa
> snd0: 
> sbxvi0 at drq 5 on isa
> snd0: 
> sbmidi0 at 0x330 on isa
> snd0: 
> opl0 at 0x388 on isa
> snd0: 
>
> AFAICS, the "snd" configuration (soundblaster 16) enables the second
> 16-bit DMA channel (drq 5), it should also enable the midi
> environment, and the Yamaha OPL3 FM (synthesizer ?); however, it makes=

> no difference to me, since I have only used sound support to play my
> music CDs -- I have not tested midi and synth, either.
>
> The docs seem to indicate that Luigi's driver enables the basic
> functions for the SoundBlaster AWE64: ie, no midi and no synth. On the=

> other hand, the pcm driver seems to sound (literally) better as far as=

> listening to my music CD is concerned.

This is why i now use pcm0. When a friend with a similar hardware
setup
told me that it's sound quality is noticeably better and there's no
random
dma error messages, i had to try. so now i'm stuck on it. when it
comes to
music, quality is everything =3D]

>
>
> Conclusion: I keep both kernels ("kernel" and "kernel.voxware"), just
> in case I should feel like trying to play with midi (provided it
> works) ...
>
> Two possiblities are better than one :-)
>


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Best regards,
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OK
This worked, including the not so elegant problems when it's started:

"The component (PluginManager) could not be loaded.
Please start setup with the option repair."

and

"InternetSetupWizard: No resource loader found."

But seems it's working, that's important :)

What about the procedure with the port?  Somebody knows if it works?

Is there a better way?  Sorry Ken ;)






Hector Colmenares  wrote:


	Try this =


	http://www.serv.net/~mcglk/staroffice-install.html


cheers.

On 19 Jan 2000, Eduardo Huertas wrote:

> That's nice!
> =

> I'm still in trouble.
> =

> =

> =

> Darren Wiebe  wrote:
> =

> =

> I just got back from holidays and have over 4000 emails to worry =

> about. =

> =

> I will be looking into this one in the next couple of days.
> =

> =

> =

> Darren Wiebe
> =

> =

> Eduardo Huertas  wrote:
> I have FreeBSD 3.2 installed and I got the port for StarOffice 5.1 from=
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> net
> but it seems is designed only for the English version.
> =

> I have the SUN=B4s CD and when I do the MAKE command everything seems o=
k but
> when I do the MAKE install. It reports the following problem:
> =

> /usr/compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig: warning can't open
> /usr/ports/editors/staroffice5/work/tmp/sv001.tmp (no such file or
> directory),
> skipping
> =

> I do the setup and when it finishes writes another errors:
> 100755: not found
> *** error code 1 =

> stop.
> =

> Then I try to MAKE post-install and again:
> 100755: not found
> =

> What I must do to install the Spanish version of StarOffice?
> =

> Thank you very much.
> =

> Eduardo
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Try this: http://www.Awfulhak.org/ppp.html

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On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 03:01:56PM -0500, dgason@mindspring.com wrote:
> 
> Hello all, 
> 
> I am thinking about completely reconfiguring my system. I am considering purchasing an internal SCSI Jaz drive and modifying my system so the Jaz drive becomes my boot drive. It is then my hope to be able to change operating systems by changing Jaz disks.
> 
> My questions are:
> FreeBSD supposedly supports Jaz drives, does anyone have experience with them? If so, how easy are the SCSI ones to get working with FreeBSD?

They are treated pretty much like any other SCSI HDD except for the
fact its removable (you don't need to boot with it in place or use
camcontrol(8) to discover a swapped disk).

> Can you boot FreeBSD from a Jaz drive? (according to Iomega you can boot NT from a Jaz drive...)

Sure, why not? FreeBSD would not care. Any problems you might have are
more likely to be with the PC BIOS and the SCSI card BIOS.

> Does anyone see any major flaws with this concept?

I've often thought about doing it, but I _hate_ to reboot my
machines so I don't think I'd use it much. :)
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Scott Blachowicz wrote:

>     $1 = {tv_sec = 948333207, tv_usec = -694210779}
> 
> I'm not sure when this really started happening - I think it's been going
> on for a while now (the earliest I see in my log files is mid-November, so
> I guess it's not a Y2K bug :-)).  At any rate, shouldn't that tv_usec
> field be in the range of 0..999999?  If not, how should I hack the source
> here to interpret the above return value?  Borrow enough seconds off of
> tv_sec until tv_usec is positive?  Clamp tv_usec to zero?  Or do something 
> equivalent to this:
> 
>     if (tv_usec < 0 || tv_usec > 1000000) {
>         now.tv_sec = time(NULL);

this is just as unreliable, since time() just calls gettimeofday().

>         now.tv_usec = 0;                
>     }
> 
> ???  Any ideas/suggestions?
> 
> Also...I don't know if it's related or not, but I've gotten some of those
> 
>    Jan 19 06:28:55 sabmail /kernel: calcru: negative time of -695391396 usec for pid 85131 (awk)

I'd guess they're related, the numbers are quite close (relatively at
least). All I can suggest really is upgrade to the latest -STABLE,
unless someone has a better idea. I recall talk of this calcru problem
being fixed (I used to see it a bit, too, though I never noticed the
gettimeofday problem).

For a temporary hack (*only* if upgrading is too much trouble) I'd
probably set tv_usec to zero and leave tv_sec alone (probably writing
some log message so you can tell if that's a possible cause of something
else breaking). Alternatively, write a loop to try gettimeofday up to
(say) five times until you get a valid result. Both of these hacks seem
unspeakably ugly though, upgrading doesn't. :-)

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 1/20/00, 11:43:24 PM, btwo cfuor  wrote regarding
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> Hi there
> i want to ask a simple question on x-windows. the
> defult interface I'm using is KDE how do i switch to
> gnome or other interfaces that i have do i have to
> edit a file or is the a utility like the one in linux
> so you can switch from an interface to another

> thankz for your time


Dear Sir,

the "method" to switch between graphical interfaces is
"CTRL-ALT-Function_Key". That is, if you are simultaneoulsy logged
in as user "tom" running KDE, user "dick" running gnome, and user
"harry" running some_other_GUI, you can switch between users by
hitting the appropriate CTRL-ALT-Function_key. If you even have
some more consoles running, you only need to hit simply
"ALT-Function_key" to go from one of these to one of your GUIs.
Needless to say, you **first** have to edit your /etc/ttys file and
turn off as many consoles as needed -- depending on how many GUI users
you wish to run at the same time.

The way you manage the GUIs is a matter of taste. You might use kdm
("man kdm"), or other display managers (e.g. found in the Ports
Collection).

Personally, I no longer like them (for flexibility reasons). To
get the same result, in principle, you should manually change
**one** line in your ~/.xinitrc, e.g. substituting "exec
gnome-session" for "exec startkde". However, it should not be
difficult to find a better equivalent way to obtain the same effect.

Please note: my_fake_domain =3D=3D=3D> neomedia.it to e-mail to me.

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On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 01:56:07PM -0500, John H. Baldwin wrote:
> I've read the vinum(4) and vinum(8) manpages as well as the webpages at
> www.lemis.com/~grog/vinum.html, and while they are very good as far as
> setup and configuration info, I haven't been able to find a lot of info
> about recovering.  I have a stale subdisk that I can't get to recover no
> matter how many different start commands I try.  I've tried starting the
> volume, the plex, and the subdisk itself with no success.
> 
> # vinum list
> Configuration summary
> 
> Drives:         3 (4 configured)
> Volumes:        1 (4 configured)
> Plexes:         1 (8 configured)
> Subdisks:       3 (16 configured)
> 
> D vinumdrive0           State: up       Device /dev/da1s1e      Avail:
> 0/8683 MB (0%)
> D vinumdrive1           State: up       Device /dev/da2s1e      Avail:
> 0/8683 MB (0%)
> D vinumdrive2           State: up       Device /dev/da3s1e      Avail:
> 0/8683 MB (0%)
> 
> V ftp_mirror            State: up       Plexes:       1 Size:         25
> GB
> 
> P ftp_mirror.p0       S State: corrupt  Subdisks:     3 Size:         25
> GB
> 
> S ftp_mirror.p0.s0      State: up       PO:        0  B Size:       8683
> MB
> S ftp_mirror.p0.s1      State: up       PO:      256 kB Size:       8683
> MB
> S ftp_mirror.p0.s2      State: stale    PO:      512 kB Size:       8683
> MB
> 
> # vinum start ftp_mirror.p0.s2
> Can't start ftp_mirror.p0.s2: Device busy (16)
> 
> # vinum start ftp_mirror.p0
> Can't start ftp_mirror.p0.s2: Device busy (16)
> 
> # vinum start ftp_mirror
> ftp_mirror is already up
> 
> # vinum stop
> vinum unloaded
> 
> # vinum start
> Warning: defective objects
> 
> P ftp_mirror.p0       S State: corrupt  Subdisks:     3 Size:         25
> GB
> S ftp_mirror.p0.s2      State: stale    PO:      512 kB Size:       8683
> MB
> 
> Any help is greatly appreciated.

You have to 'stop' everything first. (I might be overkilling here, but
better safe...)

# vinum
vinum> stop ftp_mirror.p0.s0 ftp_mirror.p0.s1
vinum> stop -f ftp_mirror.p0.s2
vinum> stop ftp_mirror.p0
vinum> stop ftp_mirror
vinum> start ftp_mirror
vinum> l
.
.
.
[what happened?]

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On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 11:38:51AM -0800, David Babler wrote:
> 
> I've been trying to build 3.4-STABLE for a week or more and have been
> getting the same error. The last run was CVSup'd yesterday, and I've
> already successfully built 3.4-STABLE on this one's sister machine. The
> problem machine is running 3.2-STABLE and the spot where buildworld craps
> out is always in compiling usr.bin/dosemu:
> 
> [...]
> cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/X11R6/include -DDISASSEMBLER   -I/usr/obj/usr3/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr3/src/usr.bin/doscmd/tty.c

[snip]

> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop.
> [...]
> 
> Now, I've never installed or run X-windows on this machine, but that's
> never been a problem before. And yes, I always do a 'make clean && make
> buildworld'[*] I don't recall seeing this in the lists, so it seems likely
> to be my configuration that it doesn't like... anybody got a clue where I
> should start looking?

The Makefile in /usr/src/usr.bin/doscmd has,

  .if exists(${X11BASE}/include) && exists(${X11BASE}/lib/libX11.a)
  CFLAGS+= -I. -I${X11BASE}/include -DDISASSEMBLER
  LDADD= -L${X11BASE}/lib -lX11
  DPADD= ${X11BASE}/lib/libX11.a
  .else
  CFLAGS+= -I. -DDISASSEMBLER -DNO_X
  .endif

From your output, it seems clear make(1) believes that X is on your
machine even you have never installed it. Why would,

  exists(${X11BASE}/include) && exists(${X11BASE}/lib/libX11.a)

Be evaluating true on your system? Do those exist?
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Ben Smithurst  wrote:

> I'd guess they're related, the numbers are quite close (relatively at
> least). All I can suggest really is upgrade to the latest -STABLE,
> unless someone has a better idea. I recall talk of this calcru problem
> being fixed (I used to see it a bit, too, though I never noticed the
> gettimeofday problem).

I'd guess that the two problems derive from the same basic problem,
though.  I haven't been keeping up with the lists lately - would that
talk of that calcru problem being fixed have happened in time for the
3.4 release?

Well...so far so good with that 'sysctl' command, so maybe I won't
have to hack it in...

> For a temporary hack (*only* if upgrading is too much trouble) I'd
> probably set tv_usec to zero and leave tv_sec alone (probably writing
> some log message so you can tell if that's a possible cause of something
> else breaking). Alternatively, write a loop to try gettimeofday up to
> (say) five times until you get a valid result. Both of these hacks seem
> unspeakably ugly though, upgrading doesn't. :-)

Yeah...but sticking a quick hack in is an easy, sub-hour task.
Upgrading is likely to take a bit longer...it's on my list of things
to do, but it was on my list for a long time last time (I went from
2.2.2 to 3.2).  But I might try it to see if it gets me anywhere
trying to talk to my old Exabyte EXB-8200 8mm tape drive - when I have
it on the bus, the boot process just hangs (along with some strange
messages that I don't remember right now)...another day, another
battle...

Thanx,

Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org


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I'm trying to install 3.3 to a brand new Maxtor drive. In the
disklabel editor I get the message "Unable to swap to /dev/wd0s1b: Device
not configured. This may cause intallation to fail at some point if you
don't have a lot of memory.

This is true. I've attempted to install many times (Cyrix 133 w/16 megs
RAM) and get a dump every time. My question is, how can I "configure the
device" so that the swap space will work? The system I'm installing on has
nothing but the fresh drive, a cdrom and a floppy drive.

Thanks for helping a newbie.

-Matt




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>I am thinking about completely reconfiguring my system. I am considering
>purchasing an internal SCSI Jaz drive and modifying my system so the Jaz
>drive becomes my boot drive. It is then my hope to be able to change
>operating systems by changing Jaz disks.
>
>My questions are:
>FreeBSD supposedly supports Jaz drives, does anyone have experience with
>them? If so, how easy are the SCSI ones to get working with FreeBSD?
>
>Can you boot FreeBSD from a Jaz drive? (according to Iomega you can boot
>NT from a Jaz drive...)
>
>Does anyone see any major flaws with this concept?
>
>My thanks,
>Dave Ason

Changing operating systems by changing disks is a great idea.  Much better
than multiple systems on one disk.

I have a bootable jaz disk I keep for emergencies.  It was never needed
and is now obsolete.  But it did work.

Potential flaws are the speed and possible fragility of jaz drives/disks.

A better solution IMHO is a canister mounted hard drive.  The carrier
and canisters are not too expensive.  Drives are not bad either.
It takes about 10 seconds to change canisters.  I have a machine with
one carrier and both FreeBSD and Linux canisters.  Works just fine.

The carrier mounts internally and is the same size as a cdrom drive.

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> I'm looking into Netgear equipment (because I use them at home and find
> the price reasonable).  Their stackable 16 port hubs and network
> adapters seem to be at a very good price, but I question their
> reliability and performance.  Does anyone have any experience with this
> equipment?

	I personally like Netgear hubs and switches with Kingston NICs all
around in the computers. As cheap as the cards are, they've been in my
experience more reliable and better performers then 3Com or Intel. 

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On Wed, Jan 07, 1998 at 07:41:10AM +0000, Danny wrote:
> Hello
> 
> - how do I open dmailweb.cgi with this type of file
> - I have tried "pico dmailweb.cgi"
> 
> - I have attached a copy of "file dmailweb.cgi >> somefile" for you
> http://netwinsite.com

> dmailweb.cgi: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped

This is telling you it is a binary executable, it's not a "script". It's
probably a compiled C program. The only realistic option for changing it
is to get the source, make the change and then re-compile it.

-- 
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Starting from the basic point... did you create a partition which was
designated as swap during the install process?

If not, you'll want to try the install again, but making sure to specify
one of the partitions *specifically* as a swap partition... say give it
about 64MB in your case.

-- 
	Niall

On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Matt Rohrer wrote:

>I'm trying to install 3.3 to a brand new Maxtor drive. In the
>disklabel editor I get the message "Unable to swap to /dev/wd0s1b: Device
>not configured. This may cause intallation to fail at some point if you
>don't have a lot of memory.
>
>This is true. I've attempted to install many times (Cyrix 133 w/16 megs
>RAM) and get a dump every time. My question is, how can I "configure the
>device" so that the swap space will work? The system I'm installing on has
>nothing but the fresh drive, a cdrom and a floppy drive.
>
>Thanks for helping a newbie.
>
>-Matt
>
>
>
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"gummibear@nettaxi.com" writes:
>Now, I feel that 3com is pretty reliable but very expensive.  Intel on
>the ot her hand is also a good performer, but also a bit pricy (although
>better than 3 com).  He's willing to spend around $2000 on the
>equipment, but I'd really like
>to get him the best price/performance I can.
>
>I'm looking into Netgear equipment (because I use them at home and find
>the p rice reasonable).  Their stackable 16 port hubs and network
>adapters seem to be at a very good price, but I question their
>reliability and performance. Does anyone have any experience with this
>equipment?
>
>I'm also open to suggestions to other possible low cost/high performance
>solutions.

About 6 months ago in a similar situation I selected an Allied Telesyn
AT724i (guessing number from memory). This is a 24 port auto 10/100
switch (not hub) with internal power supply. Price was about $630 from
http://www.warehouse.com/. Installed it and forgot about it. It just
works.

The advantage of a switch over a hub is that dynamically any two hosts 
can establish a full duplex connection, eliminating collisions, and in 
theory allowing twice the bandwidth.

The 10/100 feature is nice as the switch buffers between one speed and 
the other. Nobody has to do anything special, it just happens.

Device has 3 LED's for each of the 24 ports so you have plenty of 
flashing lights to entertain Pointy-Haired-Bosses.

--
David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net
=====================================================================
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I have set up two servers using freebsd 3.4 to be essentially identical =
machines. One of the two machines crond keeps sending error messages to =
root everytime it tries to execute one of the crontab entries. I am =
still somewhat of a newbie and I cannot make sense of the error message =
"root: not found." What does it mean, the other machine (identical in =
hardware and software setups) gives me no trouble.

two of the messages:
-------------------------------
From root Thu Jan 20 19:40:00 2000
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 19:40:00 -0500 (EST)
From: root (Cron Daemon)
To: root
Subject: Cron  root /usr/libexec/atrun
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 

root: not found=20
-------------------------------
From root Thu Jan 20 20:00:00 2000
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 20:00:00 -0500 (EST)
From: root (Cron Daemon)
To: root
Subject: Cron  root newsyslog
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 

root: not found
-------------------------------

here is my /etc/crontab if it helps.:

# /etc/crontab - root's crontab for FreeBSD
#
# $FreeBSD: src/etc/crontab,v 1.18.2.2 1999/08/29 14:18:39 peter Exp $
#
SHELL=3D/bin/sh
PATH=3D/etc:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin
HOME=3D/var/log
#
#minute hour    mday    month   wday    who     command
#
*/5     *       *       *       *       root    /usr/libexec/atrun
#
# rotate log files every hour, if necessary
0       *       *       *       *       root    newsyslog
#
# do daily/weekly/monthly maintenance
#59      1       *       *       *       root    periodic daily 2>&1 | =
sendmail root
30      3       *       *       6       root    periodic weekly 2>&1 | =
sendmail root
30      5       1       *       *       root    periodic monthly 2>&1 | =
sendmail root
# time zone change adjustment for wall cmos clock,
# does nothing, if you have UTC cmos clock.
# See adjkerntz(8) for details.

-------------------------------

In another unrelated issue. I had some trouble with the servers having =
hard crashes. I had the graphica bsd daemon screen saver running and on =
a hunch disabled it. so far I have had no more crashes. is there any =
known problems with the screensavers?

Thanks for any help.

:)

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I have set =
up two servers=20
using freebsd 3.4 to be essentially identical machines. One of the two =
machines=20
crond keeps sending error messages to root everytime it tries to execute =
one of=20
the crontab entries. I am still somewhat of a newbie and I cannot make =
sense of=20
the error message "root: not found." What does it mean, the other =
machine=20
(identical in hardware and software setups) gives me no=20
trouble.


 


two of the messages:


-------------------------------


From root Thu Jan 20 19:40:00 =
2000
Date: Thu, 20=20
Jan 2000 19:40:00 -0500 (EST)
From: root (Cron Daemon)
To:=20
root
Subject: Cron <root@djoan> root =
/usr/libexec/atrun
X-Cron-Env:=20
<SHELL=3D/bin/sh>
X-Cron-Env:=20
<PATH=3D/etc:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin>
X-Cron-Env:=20
<HOME=3D/root>
X-Cron-Env: =
<LOGNAME=3Droot>
X-Cron-Env:=20
<USER=3Droot>


 


root: not found 


-------------------------------


From root Thu Jan 20 20:00:00 =
2000
Date: Thu, 20=20
Jan 2000 20:00:00 -0500 (EST)
From: root (Cron Daemon)
To:=20
root
Subject: Cron <root@djoan> root newsyslog
X-Cron-Env:=20
<SHELL=3D/bin/sh>
X-Cron-Env:=20
<PATH=3D/etc:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin>
X-Cron-Env:=20
<HOME=3D/root>
X-Cron-Env: =
<LOGNAME=3Droot>
X-Cron-Env:=20
<USER=3Droot>


 


root: not found


-------------------------------


 


here is my /etc/crontab if it =
helps.:


 


# /etc/crontab - root's crontab for=20
FreeBSD
#
# $FreeBSD: src/etc/crontab,v 1.18.2.2 1999/08/29 =
14:18:39 peter=20
Exp=20
$
#
SHELL=3D/bin/sh
PATH=3D/etc:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbinHOME=3D/var/log
#
#minute=20
hour    mday    month  =20
wday    who    =20
command
#
*/5    =20
*       =
*      =20
*       =
*      =20
root    /usr/libexec/atrun
#
# rotate log files =
every hour,=20
if necessary
0      =20
*       =
*      =20
*       =
*      =20
root    newsyslog
#
# do daily/weekly/monthly=20
maintenance
#59     =20
1       =
*      =20
*       =
*      =20
root    periodic daily 2>&1 | sendmail=20
root
30      =
3      =20
*       =
*      =20
6       root    periodic =
weekly=20
2>&1 | sendmail root


30     =20
5       =
1      =20
*       =
*      =20
root    periodic monthly 2>&1 | sendmail root
# =
time=20
zone change adjustment for wall cmos clock,
# does nothing, if you =
have UTC=20
cmos clock.
# See adjkerntz(8) for details.


 


-------------------------------


 


In another unrelated issue. I had some =
trouble with=20
the servers having hard crashes. I had the graphica bsd daemon =
screen saver=20
running and on a hunch disabled it. so far I have had no more crashes. =
is there=20
any known problems with the screensavers?


 


Thanks for any help.


 


:)


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Peter Schwenk wrote:

> THANKS!  I couldn't for the life of me remember what this software was called.  I
> wanted to try it out for possible use in support.
>
> Chris Browning wrote:
>
> > I just found this in a Linux mailing list. Anyone else seen this? It's
> > apparently included w/ Mandrake 7, about which I know nothing. But *this* is too
> > cool.
> >
> > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/index.html
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what is THIS thing?



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I am having a problem with compiling ssh1 from ports with Krb5
support.  After compiling & installing the krb5 port (which is
using v1.1.1), ssh comes up with this error...

-=-
cc -pipe -Lrsaref2/source -o ssh ssh.o sshconnect.o log-client.o readconf.o
hostfile.o readpass.o  tildexpand.o clientloop.o canohost.o getaddrinfo.o
getnameinfo.o idea.o  rsa.o randoms.o md5.o buffer.o emulate.o packet.o
compress.o  xmalloc.o ttymodes.o newchannels.o bufaux.o authfd.o authfile.o
crc32.o rsaglue.o cipher.o des.o match.o arcfour.o mpaux.o  userfile.o
signals.o blowfish.o deattack.o   -lgmp -lz -lwrap -lrsaref -lcrypt
-L/usr/local/lib  -lutil -L/usr/local/krb5/lib -lgssapi_krb5 -lkrb5
-lcrypto -lcom_err
/usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot open -lcrypto: No such file or directory
-=-

Take out Kerberos support, and it compiles normally.  I had no problems
compiling in krb5 support using 1.1, was there something in 1.1.1 that
perhaps caused this to break?

(I am using 3.4-STABLE)

Thanks - Peter

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James Halstead wrote:
> >From root Thu Jan 20 20:00:00 2000
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> here is my /etc/crontab if it helps.:

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Stephan Weaver wrote:

> 
> what is THIS thing?
> 

probably (for people in a mixed OS environment where they have to work
on multiple machines across a network) the best thing since sliced
bread!

It is a relatively light-weight protocol that allows remote control of a
desktop. Be it Mac/OS, NT, Win9x, U*ix of many many flavours. These can
be controlled from any of the above platforms, plus any that has a
Java-capable browser, plus WinCE.

It is "kinda like" X, but the protocol is a lot less resource-hungry
than X - I've used both over a 28k8 modem line, and I much prefer VNC!

It is also 'stateless' in the sense that, if you have X sessions running
(e.g xterms, net-nav, xv, whatever) and you shut down X, the sessions
are gone. With VNC, the state is "stored" on the server end, and you can
start all your stuff on one machine, shut down that machine, go to
another office/building/town/city/country, reconnect to that server, and
the sessions are all there *exactly* where you left them!

Perhaps we need a 'vnc-advocates' list? ;') A collegue and I here at
work just love it. He is an NT SysAdmin, and he controld several
machines with it both in the office and from home. I use it to
telecommute over 70kms.

If you have a multi-OS environment, where you need access to all those
machines, but you don't really have room for them all on your desk, or
you share those machines with others, and you all need a graphical
interface to tools on those machine, then VNC may be for you. It's
"lightweight" (the Windows Viewer software fits on a floppy diskette) in
size and protocol use, easy to use, and free!

Highly recommended.

haxxa


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> > root: not found
> > -------------------------------
> > 
> > here is my /etc/crontab if it helps.:
> 
> You ran "crontab /etc/crontab". Don't do that.

I have already made the same "mistake" . How can I solve it ?


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Crist J. Clark wrote:

> And although it does not impact me, there is another reason, and one
> of the best ones, that someone would rather pipe to read than
> backtick,
> 
> (3) The backticked argument cannot have nested backticks.

ben@strontium:~$ echo `ls \`pwd\``
.ICEauthority .KillLog .MsgLog .Xauthority .Xresources [snip]

oh yes it can. :-) Of course, the $() form would be clearer, i.e. echo
$(ls $(pwd)), especially with more than one level of nesting (which I've
never even attempted).

> Anyway, I guess I need to find a workaround. I figured I was missing
> something obvious (something I already knew). Thanks for pointing it
> out.

hmm.. if the output is like "4 Fri 21 Jan 2000 00:15:59 GMT" as you say,
then how about

DATA=`awk whatever`
set -- $DATA
NUM=$1
shift; DATE="$*"

would that work?

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Correct me if I am wrong: I have a WIN95 disk with extended partition.
Do I use FDISK to delete the extended partition and then use FIPS to
repartition the drive (after defragging) for FreeBSD?



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Hi,

   I have a PHP3 script file in my Apache Server which
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Phil homewood wrote:

> You ran "crontab /etc/crontab". Don't do that.

I don't think I have ever executed that command, but it is possible. Anyway,
how can I fix the problem?



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On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Matt Gostick wrote:
>I don't know about your other problem but heres what I do to
>shutdown ppp cleanly:
>
>add to /etc/ppp/ppp.conf:
>set server /var/run/internet "" 0177
>
>and then shutdown ppp with:
>/usr/sbin/pppctl /var/run/internet quit all
>

Is there a way to reset the tun interface once ppp has detached?  I
mean, if the connection dies or something else interfers and tun is
busy, can it be reset?

-=> jm <=-

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On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Crist J. Clark wrote:

> > Any help is greatly appreciated.
> 
> You have to 'stop' everything first. (I might be overkilling here, but
> better safe...)
> 
> # vinum
> vinum> stop ftp_mirror.p0.s0 ftp_mirror.p0.s1
> vinum> stop -f ftp_mirror.p0.s2
> vinum> stop ftp_mirror.p0
> vinum> stop ftp_mirror
> vinum> start ftp_mirror
> vinum> l
> .
> .
> .
> [what happened?]

Ok, close enough, I did a stop of ftp_mirror and then a forced stop of
ftp_mirror.p0.s2, then started each indvidual subdisk and it is back
working again.  As for what happened, the disk went AWOL while the machine
was running.  It is back up and running now thankfully.

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In message <20000120175518.F72914@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com>, "Crist J. Cl
ark" wrote:
} On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 10:40:08PM +0100, Oliver Fromme wrote:
} > Crist J. Clark  wrote in list.freebsd-q
} uestions:
} >  > [...]
} >  > seems to have muddled my thoughts this morning. Why does this happen:
} >  > 
} >  > $ echo 3 | read NUM
} >  > $ echo $NUM  
} >  > 
} > 
} > Because the read command is executed in a subshell when it is
} > in a pipe.  When the pipe ends, the subshell terminates, and
} > its environment variables are gone.
} 
} *grumble-grumble*
} 
} I could swear I have done this in the past.

[ use backticks instead ... ]

} That is what I ususally do if the command generating the output is
} short. There are two reasons I do not want to do this,
} 
} (1) The command generating the output is long. (An awk command-line
}     program being fed by another pipe.)
}
} (2) A read would break up the output just the way I want. (The output
}     happens to be a number followed by a date(1)-type string. A 
}     'read NUM DATE' command would break it up exactly how I want.)

If you only need those values for a while (something that you can easily
loop through), you may want to try this:

foo | bar | bletch | while read NUM DATE ; do
  # whatever
  # more whatever
done

and the variables will be in scope for the duration of the while loop.

} And although it does not impact me, there is another reason, and one
} of the best ones, that someone would rather pipe to read than
} backtick,
} 
} (3) The backticked argument cannot have nested backticks.

That's not true, although it can get ugly when you have to start escaping
backticks.  The alternative is to use the $(command) syntax instead of
`command` syntax.

-- 
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Matt Gostick wrote:
>I don't know about your other problem but heres what I do to
>shutdown ppp cleanly:
>
>add to /etc/ppp/ppp.conf:
>set server /var/run/internet "" 0177
>
>and then shutdown ppp with:
>/usr/sbin/pppctl /var/run/internet quit all

When i try this, ppp returns a 'set server: Bind: permission denied'
message.  My user account is in groups wheel and network.  What do i
need to adjust to allow 'set server... ' to work properly?

-=> jm <=-

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Hi,

A machine I used to admin has suddenly bitten the dust.  The new admin
wrote me and said the machine crashed earlier today.  He went down to try
to reset it and it comes up with:

Disk error 0x2 (1ba=0x8f)
No /boot/loader

>> FreeBSD /i386 BOOT

Default: 0:da(0,a)/kernel
boot:

He says he then gets no response from the keyboard (this may be due to a
stupid switch the NT admin is using to try to avoid having separate
keyboards for 2 different machines - I've told the present admin to plug
the keyboard in directly to see if he gets any response, but haven't heard
back yet).

Any ideas what's going on here and how we can bring the machine back to
life?  My guess is they haven't done a backup in awhile (they were bad
about that) so they probably really want the disk back.  

Even though I'm not in charge of the machine anymore, I'd like to help
them out if I can.

Thanks in advance for any help!

Brett
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Hello All,
=20
Help!

36 hours ago I purchased the 4 CD/ROM freeBSD 3.1 w/book.  I have spent =
the last 20 hours trying to get the system to reboot properly...err!  I =
keep getting an "kernel panic" just after "syncing disks" when trying to =
load drive 1 "wd0s1a.

I have evil WinNT-4.0 on drive 1  &  freeBSD on drive 2.  AMD-mmx 200, =
64MB RAM, Asus MB, 13.1GB HD-NT4.0 Server, 3.1GB HD FreeBSD, 3Com-905 =
NIC...

I removed Linux from drive 2 and installed freeBSD there.  everything =
was going GREAT with the Linux / NT combo...I just wanted to upgrade to =
FreeBSD.

I have tried every booting sequence combination available...but =
yours...!
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added MBR and all that good stuff!!!

No matter what combination I still can't get any FreeBSD boot loader to =
become active.  I have to force the BIOS to load only from drive 2 "D".  =
Then FreeBSD loads...gets to the syncing disks...looks for drive "0" and =
crashes on the spot!...error prompt say it will now reboot in a few =
seconds...and it does...over and over and over.

I am on my 14th repartition and reload of FreeBSD.  I have tried the =
"Live File System" but that too is a waste of time.

I have even tried using the "NT 4.0 Loader" to select FreeBSD from =
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PLEASE help...I'm running out of patience.


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Hello All,


 


Help!


 


36 hours ago I purchased the 4 CD/ROM =
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w/book.  I have spent the last 20 hours trying to get the system to =
reboot=20
properly...err!  I keep getting an "kernel panic" just after =
"syncing=20
disks" when trying to load drive 1 "wd0s1a.


 


I have evil WinNT-4.0 on drive 1  =
& =20
freeBSD on drive 2.  AMD-mmx 200, 64MB RAM, Asus MB, 13.1GB =
HD-NT4.0=20
Server, 3.1GB HD FreeBSD, 3Com-905 NIC...


 


I removed Linux from drive 2 and =
installed freeBSD=20
there.  everything was going GREAT with the Linux / NT combo...I =
just=20
wanted to upgrade to FreeBSD.


 


I have tried every booting sequence =
combination=20
available...but yours...!


I have re-partitioned every combination =
I could=20
fathom....removed and added MBR and all that good stuff!!!


 


No matter what combination I still can't get any FreeBSD boot =
loader to=20
become active.  I have to force the BIOS to load only from drive 2=20
"D".  Then FreeBSD loads...gets to the syncing disks...looks for =
drive "0"=20
and crashes on the spot!...error prompt say it will now reboot in a few=20
seconds...and it does...over and over and over.


 


I am on my 14th repartition and reload of FreeBSD.  I have =
tried the=20
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I have even tried using the "NT 4.0 Loader" to select FreeBSD from=20
that...NT is stupid and says it does not allow this even though the =
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PLEASE help...I'm running out of patience.


 


 


JR


 


 


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From owner-freebsd-questions  Thu Jan 20 20:19:14 2000
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Brett Taylor wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> A machine I used to admin has suddenly bitten the dust.  The new admin
> wrote me and said the machine crashed earlier today.  He went down to try
> to reset it and it comes up with:
> 
> Disk error 0x2 (1ba=0x8f)
> No /boot/loader

If I didn't know any better, I'd guess that there was no /boot/loader :-)

Seriously, the simple answer is often the correct one.  The admin might
have accidentally removed some stuff from the /boot/ directory that he/she
shouldn't have.  Before screaming bloody murder and kicking the machine to
a siliconistic pulp, it would definitely be worth the effort to boot from
a fixit floppy, mount the root filesystem and see if /boot/loader is, in
fact, missing.  If it isn't there, it's a relatively easy thing to copy it
over from another functioning system.  While you're at it, ensure that all
the support files are there, too.

The following is from a 3.2-RELEASE system:

.:
total 503
-r--r--r--   1 root          512 May 17  1999 boot0
-r--r--r--   1 root          512 May 17  1999 boot1
-r--r--r--   1 root         7680 May 17  1999 boot2
drwxr-xr-x   2 root          512 Jun  9  1999 defaults/
-r--r-xr-x   1 root       131072 May 17  1999 loader*
-r--r--r--   1 root         5181 Jun 10  1999 loader.4th
-rw-r--r--   1 root          138 Nov  4 17:19 loader.conf
-r--r--r--   1 root        11462 Jun 10  1999 loader.help
-r--r--r--   1 root          171 Nov  4 17:19 loader.rc
-rw-r-xr-x   1 root       308278 Jun 10  1999 splash.bmp*
-r--r--r--   1 root        23639 Jun 10  1999 support.4th

defaults:
total 6
-r--r--r--   1 root         6012 May 17  1999 loader.conf


> He says he then gets no response from the keyboard (this may be due to a
> stupid switch the NT admin is using to try to avoid having separate
> keyboards for 2 different machines - I've told the present admin to plug
> the keyboard in directly to see if he gets any response, but haven't heard
> back yet).

Hmm.. I use several DTS units here (sometimes even in direct series or
parallel... For example, I have two systems that share two keyboards, and
I wanted both systems to be able to use either keyboard.  It's a good
thing I can get the damn things wholesale :-)





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BSDers,

Im a newbie to linux but am catching on quickly.  Ive got the UNIX
basics down and am now getting into more of the advanced stuff.  While
Im battering at the learning curve for linux, I thought Id give FreeBSD
a chance on another HD of mine.  Here's my question:

How similar are linux and FreeBSD?

Im running Slackware 7 w/out a GUI like X or KDE, and so am curious as
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heads up on now on how similar the experience will be.

Thanks in advance,

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On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, you wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 01:25:35PM +0700, pirat sriyotha wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > occationally, my small network does not work.  i have to 'shutdown -r now' to
> > bring it back to work.
> 
> FreeBSD != Windoze
> 

yes you are quite right and that's why i turn away from 'doz.

>
> > the only clue is a message from ping which is
> > 
> > ping: sendto: No buffer space available
> > 
> > is there anyway to solve this kind of problem instead of shutdown ?
> 
> ifconfig de0 down up
>

now, jan 21 2000 11:18 thailand mean time,  it happends again  and ifconfig down
and up does not work.  anyway, i can connect to the Internet via ppp
connecttion to my isp.


> Regards,
> Norman C. Rice, Jr.

many thanks indeed for your hints and help

Regards,
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, you wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 01:25:35PM +0700, pirat sriyotha wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > occationally, my small network does not work.  i have to 'shutdown -r now' to
> > bring it back to work.
> 
> FreeBSD != Windoze
> 

yes you are quite right and that's why i turn away from 'doz.

>
> > the only clue is a message from ping which is
> > 
> > ping: sendto: No buffer space available
> > 
> > is there anyway to solve this kind of problem instead of shutdown ?
> 
> ifconfig de0 down up
>

now, jan 21 2000 11:18 thailand mean time,  it happends again  and ifconfig down
and up does not work.  anyway, i can connect to the Internet via ppp
connecttion to my isp.


> Regards,
> Norman C. Rice, Jr.

many thanks indeed for your hints and help

Regards,
pirat sriyotha


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On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 09:24:41PM -0500, James Halstead wrote:

> Phil homewood wrote:
> 
> > You ran "crontab /etc/crontab". Don't do that.
> 
> I don't think I have ever executed that command, but it is possible. Anyway,
> how can I fix the problem?

As root:

	crontab -l

will remove the root's munged personal crontab.

Jonathan Chen
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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 00:37:13 -0600
From: "Jeremy M. Dolan" 
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For the past two days I've spent a great deal of time asking and looking
around trying to find out weither my ISA network card will work with
FreeBSD or not. I'm trying this list as a last resort, before trying
to return the card, which I don't think is possible any more.

The card is a Netgear EA201C... the webpage and box don't give many
details, or list a chipset or anything...

http://netgear.baynetworks.com/products/ds_ea201c/index.shtml

I've had a lot of success with their PCI FA310TX card in non-Microsoft
OSes, and assumed a fairly popular brand like netgear would have their
ISA card supported under FreeBSD... guess I'll check the hardware
capatibility guide next time.

Am I down 30 bucks?

(thanks in advance)

-- 
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On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 04:34:11PM -0800, Rick Hamell wrote:
> 
> > I'm looking into Netgear equipment (because I use them at home and find
> > the price reasonable).  Their stackable 16 port hubs and network
> > adapters seem to be at a very good price, but I question their
> > reliability and performance.  Does anyone have any experience with this
> > equipment?
> 
> 	I personally like Netgear hubs and switches with Kingston NICs all
> around in the computers. As cheap as the cards are, they've been in my
> experience more reliable and better performers then 3Com or Intel. 

We have lots of 4 to 16 port Netgears at the office. Never had any
trouble from any of them. Many are getting pretty old too.

Funny thing, only trouble we have had is from 24 port Cisco hubs and
a 8 port Cisco switch, and Cisco is the $$$ one.
-- 
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G'day,

> 
> How similar are linux and FreeBSD?
> 
> Im running Slackware 7 w/out a GUI like X or KDE, and so am curious as
> to how similar the directory structures are, commands, etc.  Itll be
> another week or two before Im able to install it, so, I thought Id get a
> heads up on now on how similar the experience will be.
> 

Ok. From a 'shell' level, very. On both there are all the usual shells
available (csh, sh, bash, zsh, ksh, etc.), most of the same commands
(e.g. who, finger, ping, traceroute, etc.), all the usual 'unixy' stuff.
And under you own user directory you can create your own tree as you
would on any other unix system.

Now, within the System directories things get a little different.
Caveat, my experience so far has been with fBSD-2.2.8. I'm in the
process of going to 3.3, but not there as yet. So, with that in mind,
there may be (most likely are) some differences with the later fBSD that
I will have 'wrong'.

For me, I dislike the SystemV/Linux useage of the /etc/rc.d.
directories to control "run-levels". I prefer everything in the rc files
in /etc - it's all there, and you either run single user mode, or you
run multi-user mode. No, Single with X, multi without X, multi with X,
all that stuff - I'm a simple Analyst, let's keep it simple. I like that
in BSD.

I find, for me, the comfort of having a central team QA the releases
(ok, bugs still slip through, they're only human, processes break down
:'), and I can be pretty sure that all that is released in a "version"
of FreeBSD will actually work on that version. Without having to upgrade
this obscure library from here, there or somewhere else. The order and
the control is comforting for someone from a "real" Operating System
environment.

The chaos in the Linux world is great for others. They enjoy having
completely unique configurations - I tried it, and decided that it just
'wasn't me'.

Either is an excellent way for you to break the shackles of 'the evil
empire'. Either is a great way to learn to drive Unix, and even program
in that environment. There are many many similarities that to non-techo
would make them ask "what's the difference?". Under the hood there are
some very real differences - for example, FreeBSD performs considerably
better under load, making it more suited to 'server' situations.

Linux has more 'bleeding edge' "toys" (e.g. it had VMware first), and
that appeals to some.

Me, I like the rock-solid stability, the great performance, and the
elegant way the system files are layed out. But, I am also almost as
equally at home on one of my collegue's Linux machine - once you know
what the differences are in the directory structures.


All of the above is my opinion, and may change at any time :')

haxxa


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On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 12:17:56AM +0000, Ben Smithurst wrote:
> Crist J. Clark wrote:
> 
> > And although it does not impact me, there is another reason, and one
> > of the best ones, that someone would rather pipe to read than
> > backtick,
> > 
> > (3) The backticked argument cannot have nested backticks.
> 
> ben@strontium:~$ echo `ls \`pwd\``
> .ICEauthority .KillLog .MsgLog .Xauthority .Xresources [snip]
> 
> oh yes it can. :-) 

I guess I wrote too quickly. I knew you could escape them. I should
have said,

(3) Nesting backticks can be done if one is insane.

[snip]

> > Anyway, I guess I need to find a workaround. I figured I was missing
> > something obvious (something I already knew). Thanks for pointing it
> > out.
> 
> hmm.. if the output is like "4 Fri 21 Jan 2000 00:15:59 GMT" as you say,
> then how about
> 
> DATA=`awk whatever`
> set -- $DATA
> NUM=$1
> shift; DATE="$*"
> 
> would that work?

It would, but I've already got argv filled with something else. I
guess I could swap them.

But since we're having so much fun with all of this, maybe I should
try this one on all of you. Given Ben's code above, how would _you_
determine how long ago $DATE was from the present time?

Better yet, I'll tell you all what that whole argument line is. That
first number is a dump level and the second is the date of the
dump. The script needs to figure out if we need to dump and at what
level. That awk script is taking the staggeringly useless "inventory"
output from the SGI xfsdump(8) command (the -I option) and distilling
the last dump for a given filesystem. That all works, but is only the
start of the fun.
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Hi,


On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Jonathan Chen wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 09:24:41PM -0500, James Halstead wrote:
> 
> > Phil homewood wrote:
> > 
> > > You ran "crontab /etc/crontab". Don't do that.
> > 
> > I don't think I have ever executed that command, but it is possible. Anyway,
> > how can I fix the problem?
> 
> As root:
> 
> 	crontab -l
> 
> will remove the root's munged personal crontab.
> 

Don't you mean "-r".

Colin



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On 21-Jan-00 Jonathan Chen wrote:
> 
> As root:
> 
>       crontab -l
> 
> will remove the root's munged personal crontab.

s/remove/list/

crontab
^D

- or -

crontab < /dev/null

will remove

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Hi Ryan,

On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Ryan Thompson wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Brett Taylor wrote:

> > A machine I used to admin has suddenly bitten the dust.  The new
> > admin wrote me and said the machine crashed earlier today.  He went
> > down to try to reset it and it comes up with: > > Disk error 0x2
> > (1ba=0x8f) No /boot/loader

> If I didn't know any better, I'd guess that there was no /boot/loader

Yeah - I figured that.  :-)  

> Seriously, the simple answer is often the correct one.  The admin
> might have accidentally removed some stuff from the /boot/ directory
> that he/she shouldn't have.

He wasn't on and isn't experienced enough to even know there is a /boot
partition.  He's a temporary admin that the dept stuck on when I left
which is why I'm getting email now asking to help. :-)

> it would definitely be worth the effort to boot from a fixit floppy,
> mount the root filesystem and see if /boot/loader is, in fact,
> missing.

Well, that's the plan but it will have to wait until he's there - I'm 2000
miles from the console.  :-)

Thanks,

Brett
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On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 10:38:18PM -0600, pini0n wrote:
> BSDers,
> 
> Im a newbie to linux but am catching on quickly.  Ive got the UNIX
> basics down and am now getting into more of the advanced stuff.  While
> Im battering at the learning curve for linux, I thought Id give FreeBSD
> a chance on another HD of mine.  Here's my question:
> 
> How similar are linux and FreeBSD?
> 
> Im running Slackware 7 w/out a GUI like X or KDE, and so am curious as
> to how similar the directory structures are, commands, etc.  Itll be
> another week or two before Im able to install it, so, I thought Id get a
> heads up on now on how similar the experience will be.

For directory layout, you could type 'man hier' on both systems and
compare, or if you don't have FreeBSD yet look at
 http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=hier&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+3.4-RELEASE&format=html

It's a matter of perspective. If your perspective is that of a recent
convert from Microsoft systems, you'll find them very similar to each
other. If you're coming from a unix background, all of the little
differences will jump out at you. For example, most of the user
commands and easy admin commands are the same, but some of the admin
differs a lot because of system differences, especially in the area of
what the system does while it is booting up. But they're still more
similar to each other than they are to Windows, OS/2, Mac, etc. Again,
if you were coming from a unix background you'd even notice a lot of
differences between different distributions of Linux that most hobby
Linux users would hardly notice. Coming from Slackware to FreeBSD you
shouldn't find too many surprises.

-- 

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James Halstead wrote:
> Phil homewood wrote:
> 
> > You ran "crontab /etc/crontab". Don't do that.
> 
> I don't think I have ever executed that command, but it is possible. Anyway,
> how can I fix the problem?

crontab -r

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On Thursday, 20 January 2000 at 12:51:45 -0500, Neill Robins wrote:
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On Thursday, 20 January 2000 at 19:15:43 -0500, Crist J. Clark wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 01:56:07PM -0500, John H. Baldwin wrote:
>> I've read the vinum(4) and vinum(8) manpages as well as the webpages at
>> www.lemis.com/~grog/vinum.html, and while they are very good as far as
>> setup and configuration info, I haven't been able to find a lot of info
>> about recovering.  I have a stale subdisk that I can't get to recover no
>> matter how many different start commands I try.  I've tried starting the
>> volume, the plex, and the subdisk itself with no success.
>>
>> # vinum list
>> Configuration summary
>>
>> Drives:         3 (4 configured)
>> Volumes:        1 (4 configured)
>> Plexes:         1 (8 configured)
>> Subdisks:       3 (16 configured)
>>
>> D vinumdrive0           State: up       Device /dev/da1s1e      Avail: 0/8683 MB (0%)
>> D vinumdrive1           State: up       Device /dev/da2s1e      Avail: 0/8683 MB (0%)
>> D vinumdrive2           State: up       Device /dev/da3s1e      Avail: 0/8683 MB (0%)
>>
>> V ftp_mirror            State: up       Plexes:       1 Size:         25 GB
>>
>> P ftp_mirror.p0       S State: corrupt  Subdisks:     3 Size:         25 GB
>>
>> S ftp_mirror.p0.s0      State: up       PO:        0  B Size:       8683 MB
>> S ftp_mirror.p0.s1      State: up       PO:      256 kB Size:       8683 MB
>> S ftp_mirror.p0.s2      State: stale    PO:      512 kB Size:       8683 MB
>>
>> # vinum start ftp_mirror.p0.s2
>> Can't start ftp_mirror.p0.s2: Device busy (16)

Hmm.  That shouldn't happen.

> You have to 'stop' everything first. (I might be overkilling here,
> but better safe...)

No, that's not safe.  That would mean taking down the volume.

I haven't seen this before.  How about the information I ask for in
the web page?

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I am needing to use a telnet client from Win98 to work on a
FreeBSD box.  The standard telnet is not sufficently
functional for some of the work I will be performing.

Can anyone recommend a telnet client that is vt220 capable?

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Hi,

I'm just wondering if anyone got this to work? (I installed it from Ports)
It can't seem to log into the server.  Micq works fine however.

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On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Gene Harris wrote:

> I am not sure of my terminology for X-Windows, so I'll ask
> this question as best I can:
> 
> I have a Linux RH 6.1 Workstation and a FreeBSD 3.4S Server
> on my local network.  Both are running XFree86 3.3.X almost
> full time.
> 
> Is it possible to open an Xterm window on my FreeBSD box
> that connects to the Linux XFree server?  The reason I am
> asking this question is that I was blocking access to the
> ports at 6000+ on my firewall and I wondered how an
> application like xterm could connect to a remote machine
> thru these ports.
> 

Sure... I HIGHLY recommend you take advantage of SSH's ability to securely
tunnel X connections, even if doing this over a lan.  (It will also
simplify and stabilize your firewall configuration, most likely).

As close to "cook-book" as I get.  The following should get you started.
Please read relevant manual pages for more details.

  Install SSH on both machines (ensuring sshd is running on your Linux
machine, to allow connections).

  It is not necessary to install an X server on your linux machine if all
you want to do is allow client connections.  Having XFree installed is
enough.  A functioning X server MUST be configured on your "client"
FreeBSD machine.

  Assuming your linux machine is at 10.x.y.z, issue xhost 10.x.y.z on your
FreeBSD machine to allow connections to be displayed.

  In X on the FreeBSD box, from a terminal, ssh to your linux box.  (Note,
if you absolutely must log in as root, you'll want to edit your
/usr/local/etc/sshd_config to enable root logins).

  Check your DISPLAY variable in your remote ssh.  Assuming your FreeBSD
machine is at 10.x.y.p, use setenv DISPLAY 10.x.y.p:0.  Note you should
NOT use 127.0.0.1 or localhost here, as the remote machine will not
resolve these to the FreeBSD box.

  Run your desired X applications, but do so over a fast connection, lest
ye experience extraordinarily slow GUIs.


> I have performed a half-baked scan of the documentation and
> found a few references, but absolutely no details for
> cook-booking the task.  Any pointers would be greatly
> appreciated.
> 
> (I am also playing with tcp wrappers, so please respond thru
> the mailing list as I have unknown servers blocked while I
> build my hosts.allow file.)
> 
> Many Thanks,
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Thus spake Gene Harris (zeus@tetronsoftware.com):

> I am needing to use a telnet client from Win98 to work on a
> FreeBSD box.  The standard telnet is not sufficently
> functional for some of the work I will be performing.
> 

Try CRT - http://www.vandyke.com/

They also have a version that supports SSH - although downloads are restricted
to North America :(


Nick.

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You need to compile the options into your kernel.  Take a look at LINT.

----- Original Message ----- 
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> 
> curious.. on 3.4-stable, cvsupped Dec. 29 1999, defaults/rc.conf has;
> 
> TCP_DROP_SYNFIN and TCP_RESTRICT_RST, which point to:
> 
> sysctl net.inet.tcp.drop_synfin and net.inet.tcp.restrict_rst, However:
> 
> root[w01]:~# sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.restrict_rst=1
> sysctl: unknown oid 'net.inet.tcp.restrict_rst'
> root[w01]:~# sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.drop_synfin=1
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> 
> Is this not functional yet? Or does it require something that I'm missing
> here? As I said, the machine is 3.4-STABLE as of Dec. 29 1999.
> 
> -Matt
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Ryan Thompson wrote:

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>  > *Gene Harris      http://www.tetronsoftware.com*
>  > *FreeBSD Novice                                *
>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ - I'd sooner hire a FreeBSD novice than an MCSE :-)

*grin*  I am an MCSE and MCSD also.  Started working with
Microsoft Xenix way back in the 80's at Intel.  Writing
device drivers for multibus boards driving an incredible 8
serial ports and 2MB RAM to execute Xenix.  And no, I don't
long for the good old days.

I left *nix for NT because folks like SCO and ATT were just
too hard to deal with at the time.  But times have changed.
And yes, I still develop software for Windows.  It pays the
mortgage.  *grin*

>  --
>    Ryan Thompson 	50% Owner, Sysadmin
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Earlier today, my filesystems somehow got messed up, so I tried
reinstalling. I've installed about 5 times since, to no avail. The error
I get is as such:

BootMgr
1: DOS
5: Disk 1

(I enter 2)

BootMgr
1: FreeBSD
2: DOS
5: Disk 0

(I enter 1)

-- begin actual stuff --
Disk error 0x1 (lba=0xe2904f)
no /boot/loader
boot: wd(1,a)/kernel
Disk error 0x1 (lba=0xe2904f)
no /kernel
-- end --

These are two IDE disks, the FreeBSD one is on the primary controller as
the slave. If I set the device to wd(1,e) (/usr) and type '?' it lists
all the directories fine, but the other slices, I have no idea what's
going on. Any help is appreciated, I'd be glad to provide more
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[snip]

>  Try CRT - http://www.vandyke.com/
>  
>  They also have a version that supports SSH - although downloads are restricted
>  to North America :(
>  
   Sometimes, we have the dumbest #$%& laws in this country.
*grin*

And many thanks for the recommendation.

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On 21-Jan-00 Greg Lehey wrote:
> On Thursday, 20 January 2000 at 19:15:43 -0500, Crist J. Clark wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 01:56:07PM -0500, John H. Baldwin wrote:
>>> I've read the vinum(4) and vinum(8) manpages as well as the webpages at
>>> www.lemis.com/~grog/vinum.html, and while they are very good as far as
>>> setup and configuration info, I haven't been able to find a lot of info
>>> about recovering.  I have a stale subdisk that I can't get to recover no
>>> matter how many different start commands I try.  I've tried starting the
>>> volume, the plex, and the subdisk itself with no success.
>>>
>>> # vinum list
>>> Configuration summary
>>>
>>> Drives:         3 (4 configured)
>>> Volumes:        1 (4 configured)
>>> Plexes:         1 (8 configured)
>>> Subdisks:       3 (16 configured)
>>>
>>> D vinumdrive0           State: up       Device /dev/da1s1e      Avail: 0/8683 MB (0%)
>>> D vinumdrive1           State: up       Device /dev/da2s1e      Avail: 0/8683 MB (0%)
>>> D vinumdrive2           State: up       Device /dev/da3s1e      Avail: 0/8683 MB (0%)
>>>
>>> V ftp_mirror            State: up       Plexes:       1 Size:         25 GB
>>>
>>> P ftp_mirror.p0       S State: corrupt  Subdisks:     3 Size:         25 GB
>>>
>>> S ftp_mirror.p0.s0      State: up       PO:        0  B Size:       8683 MB
>>> S ftp_mirror.p0.s1      State: up       PO:      256 kB Size:       8683 MB
>>> S ftp_mirror.p0.s2      State: stale    PO:      512 kB Size:       8683 MB
>>>
>>> # vinum start ftp_mirror.p0.s2
>>> Can't start ftp_mirror.p0.s2: Device busy (16)
> 
> Hmm.  That shouldn't happen.

Well, that's comforting. :)

>> You have to 'stop' everything first. (I might be overkilling here,
>> but better safe...)
> 
> No, that's not safe.  That would mean taking down the volume.

Err, oops.  I already did this and it worked.  I've already fsck'd the volume and have
it in use right now.

> I haven't seen this before.  How about the information I ask for in
> the web page?

Ok, here's what I do have, but I did fix it using the above hackishness, so some of it
may not apply.

# uname -a
FreeBSD raven.XXXXX 3.3-STABLE FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE #0: Mon Dec  6 16:25:01 EST 1999
     root@snowcow.XXXXX:/usr/source/src/sys/compile/RAVEN  i386

the output of 'vinum list' you already have above, here's some of vinum_history, although it doesn't
include any of the return values, so I don't think it will be of much use:

20 Jan 2000 12:39:55.489661 *** vinum started ***
20 Jan 2000 12:39:55.540632 start 
20 Jan 2000 12:39:55.820518 *** Created devices ***
20 Jan 2000 12:40:12.649217 *** vinum started ***
20 Jan 2000 12:40:13.502406 help 
20 Jan 2000 12:40:25.188145 ls 
20 Jan 2000 13:10:31.321216 start 
20 Jan 2000 13:10:47.978917 start ftp_mirror.p0.s2 
20 Jan 2000 13:10:50.980012 stop

That is what I did when I first brought the machine back up.

20 Jan 2000 16:21:53.536302 *** vinum started ***
20 Jan 2000 16:21:53.537010 stop ftp_mirror.p0 
20 Jan 2000 16:21:58.984393 *** vinum started ***
20 Jan 2000 16:21:58.985133 list 
20 Jan 2000 16:22:06.561902 *** vinum started ***
20 Jan 2000 16:22:06.562622 stop ftp_mirror.p0.s2 
20 Jan 2000 16:22:17.000952 *** vinum started ***
20 Jan 2000 16:22:17.005242 stop -f ftp_mirror.p0.s2 
20 Jan 2000 16:22:21.145993 *** vinum started ***
20 Jan 2000 16:22:21.146744 list 
20 Jan 2000 16:22:40.709634 *** vinum started ***
20 Jan 2000 16:22:40.710394 start ftp_mirror 
20 Jan 2000 16:22:54.393075 *** vinum started ***
20 Jan 2000 16:22:54.393778 start ftp_mirror.p0.s0 
20 Jan 2000 16:23:00.238272 *** vinum started ***
20 Jan 2000 16:23:00.239015 list 
20 Jan 2000 16:23:09.552251 *** vinum started ***
20 Jan 2000 16:23:09.552963 start ftp_mirror.p0.s1 
20 Jan 2000 16:23:16.193159 *** vinum started ***
20 Jan 2000 16:23:16.193896 start ftp_mirror.p0.s2 

That is how I "fixed" it.

However, the drive seems to have fallen over again (*sigh*) with the following
kernel messages:

Jan 20 23:28:38 raven /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:1:0): SCB 0x96 - timed out while idle, LASTPHASE == 0x1, SEQADDR == 0xa
Jan 20 23:28:38 raven /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:1:0): Queuing a BDR SCB
Jan 20 23:28:38 raven /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:1:0): Bus Device Reset Message Sent
Jan 20 23:28:38 raven /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:1:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b
Jan 20 23:28:38 raven /kernel: ahc1: Bus Device Reset on A:1. 1 SCBs aborted

Note that I didn't get this message until after the drive had been booted for
a while, the kernel found it fine during boot:

ahc1:  rev 0x00 int a irq 10 on pci2.9.0
ahc1: aic7890/91 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs
 ...
da2 at ahc1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
da2:  Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
da2: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da2: 8683MB (17783240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C)

Hope this enough info and hope your stay in India is going well.

> Greg

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Hello,

I want to deploy a test for Squid and soon a Radius solution at my network
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What are the hardware requirements for Squid with 50 hosts in the network?



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In article <85pcc1$t2g$1@inner.demon.co.uk>,
Geraint A Edwards  wrote:
> I am setting up 3.3 (upgrading from 2.2.2, at last), and use
> 'screen' all the time (in 'xterm').  (In truth, I'm fiddling with
> 3.3 while - impatiently - waiting for 3.4 to arrive, but anyway...)
> 
> I think something's wrong with the screen termcap - it just isn't
> using the the bottom line of the xterm for the info lines (e.g.
> C-a w).  Instead the info appears at the current cursor position
> and does not disappear (it wasn't even inverse video).
> 
> This is 'screen' as installed from the 3.3 CD.  I've checked that
> /etc/termcap holds an entry for TERM=screen (it does) and that
> this is the latest screen (it is).  Beyond that, termcap is
> almost rot13 to me.

Thanks to all those who responded.  The answer was to do the
following from the screen package:

	cp etc/etcscreenrc /usr/local/etc/screenrc

Did the job perfectly - thanks!

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Hi,

I've set up ppp and run it using ppp -alias -auto pmdemand on a system
running FreeBSD 3.2 (NO X-Windows).

If I run ppp any other way (ie. substitute -auto with -interactive
or -background) ppp does not work.

My actual problem is, I cant seem to stop ppp from always reconnecting if
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set redial 0 1
set reconnect 0 0

but these seem to have no effect - my unix box will always dial up over and
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Please find attached my ppp.conf file.

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# PPP Configuration File ('/etc/ppp/ppp.conf')
#
# Default settings; These are always executed always when PPP
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################################################################
default:
  set device /dev/cuaa0
  set speed 38400
  set log +connect
  disable pred1
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  set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATE1Q0 OK-AT-OK =
\\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT"
  set filter dial 0 deny icmp
  set filter dial 1 permit 0 0
  set timeout 0
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#
#
################################################################
#
# For interactive mode use this configuration:
#
# Invoke with `ppp -alias interactive`
#
################################################################
interactive:
  set authname spearce
  set authkey myPasswordGoesHere!
  set phone 63276666
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  accept chap
#
################################################################
#
# For demand-dial (automatic) mode we'll use this configuration:
#
# Invoke with: 'ppp -auto -alias demand'
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  set authname spearce
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  set phone 63276666
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ppp"
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On Friday, 21 January 2000 at  1:35:33 -0500, John Baldwin wrote:
>
> On 21-Jan-00 Greg Lehey wrote:
>> On Thursday, 20 January 2000 at 19:15:43 -0500, Crist J. Clark wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 01:56:07PM -0500, John H. Baldwin wrote:
>>>> I've read the vinum(4) and vinum(8) manpages as well as the webpages at
>>>> www.lemis.com/~grog/vinum.html, and while they are very good as far as
>>>> setup and configuration info, I haven't been able to find a lot of info
>>>> about recovering.  I have a stale subdisk that I can't get to recover no
>>>> matter how many different start commands I try.  I've tried starting the
>>>> volume, the plex, and the subdisk itself with no success.
>>>>
>>>> # vinum list
>>>> Configuration summary
>>>>
>>>> Drives:         3 (4 configured)
>>>> Volumes:        1 (4 configured)
>>>> Plexes:         1 (8 configured)
>>>> Subdisks:       3 (16 configured)
>>>>
>>>> D vinumdrive0           State: up       Device /dev/da1s1e      Avail: 0/8683 MB (0%)
>>>> D vinumdrive1           State: up       Device /dev/da2s1e      Avail: 0/8683 MB (0%)
>>>> D vinumdrive2           State: up       Device /dev/da3s1e      Avail: 0/8683 MB (0%)
>>>>
>>>> V ftp_mirror            State: up       Plexes:       1 Size:         25 GB
>>>>
>>>> P ftp_mirror.p0       S State: corrupt  Subdisks:     3 Size:         25 GB
>>>>
>>>> S ftp_mirror.p0.s0      State: up       PO:        0  B Size:       8683 MB
>>>> S ftp_mirror.p0.s1      State: up       PO:      256 kB Size:       8683 MB
>>>> S ftp_mirror.p0.s2      State: stale    PO:      512 kB Size:       8683 MB
>>>>
>>>> # vinum start ftp_mirror.p0.s2
>>>> Can't start ftp_mirror.p0.s2: Device busy (16)
>>
>> Hmm.  That shouldn't happen.
>
> Well, that's comforting. :)

Hmm.  Looking at this more carefully, yes, you can't do anything
there.  You just don't have the information to recover the subdisk.
I'm still debating what to do in this case; there's no way to bring it
back to a guaranteed consistent state here, but you *can* use the
'setupstate' command to fake it.

>>> You have to 'stop' everything first. (I might be overkilling here,
>>> but better safe...)
>>
>> No, that's not safe.  That would mean taking down the volume.
>
> Err, oops.  I already did this and it worked.  I've already fsck'd
> the volume and have it in use right now.
>
>> I haven't seen this before.  How about the information I ask for in
>> the web page?
>
> Ok, here's what I do have, but I did fix it using the above
> hackishness, so some of it may not apply.
>
> the output of 'vinum list' you already have above, here's some of
> vinum_history, although it doesn't include any of the return values,
> so I don't think it will be of much use:
>
> 20 Jan 2000 12:39:55.489661 *** vinum started ***
> 20 Jan 2000 12:39:55.540632 start
> 20 Jan 2000 12:39:55.820518 *** Created devices ***
> 20 Jan 2000 12:40:12.649217 *** vinum started ***
> 20 Jan 2000 12:40:13.502406 help
> 20 Jan 2000 12:40:25.188145 ls
> 20 Jan 2000 13:10:31.321216 start
> 20 Jan 2000 13:10:47.978917 start ftp_mirror.p0.s2
> 20 Jan 2000 13:10:50.980012 stop
>
> That is what I did when I first brought the machine back up.
>
> 20 Jan 2000 16:21:53.536302 *** vinum started ***
> 20 Jan 2000 16:21:53.537010 stop ftp_mirror.p0
> 20 Jan 2000 16:21:58.984393 *** vinum started ***

Hmm.  Interesting.  I don't seem to log a 'vinum stop'.

> 20 Jan 2000 16:21:58.985133 list
> 20 Jan 2000 16:22:06.561902 *** vinum started ***
> 20 Jan 2000 16:22:06.562622 stop ftp_mirror.p0.s2
> 20 Jan 2000 16:22:17.000952 *** vinum started ***
> 20 Jan 2000 16:22:17.005242 stop -f ftp_mirror.p0.s2
> 20 Jan 2000 16:22:21.145993 *** vinum started ***
> 20 Jan 2000 16:22:21.146744 list
> 20 Jan 2000 16:22:40.709634 *** vinum started ***
> 20 Jan 2000 16:22:40.710394 start ftp_mirror
> 20 Jan 2000 16:22:54.393075 *** vinum started ***
> 20 Jan 2000 16:22:54.393778 start ftp_mirror.p0.s0
> 20 Jan 2000 16:23:00.238272 *** vinum started ***
> 20 Jan 2000 16:23:00.239015 list
> 20 Jan 2000 16:23:09.552251 *** vinum started ***
> 20 Jan 2000 16:23:09.552963 start ftp_mirror.p0.s1
> 20 Jan 2000 16:23:16.193159 *** vinum started ***
> 20 Jan 2000 16:23:16.193896 start ftp_mirror.p0.s2
>
> That is how I "fixed" it.

I don't see the volume being stopped there.  Of course, it's not so
important not to stop a volume if it's only partially accessible.

> However, the drive seems to have fallen over again (*sigh*) with the
> following kernel messages:
>
> Jan 20 23:28:38 raven /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:1:0): SCB 0x96 - timed out while idle, LASTPHASE == 0x1, SEQADDR == 0xa
> Jan 20 23:28:38 raven /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:1:0): Queuing a BDR SCB
> Jan 20 23:28:38 raven /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:1:0): Bus Device Reset Message Sent
> Jan 20 23:28:38 raven /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:1:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b
> Jan 20 23:28:38 raven /kernel: ahc1: Bus Device Reset on A:1. 1 SCBs aborted

Yup, that looks like a hardware problem; possibly bus termination or
some such.  Vinum is good at finding suboptimal SCSI chains, since it
issues multiple requests in parallel.

> Note that I didn't get this message until after the drive had been
> booted for a while,

Right, that's relatively typical.

> the kernel found it fine during boot:

Greg
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Hello,
Thanks Ales for letting me know about the staroffice5 port.
I tried running it today - I got the various dependencyies & installed them,
then did a make, which ran without error. When I did the make install, I got
the following:

	imoore:/usr/ports/editors/staroffice5# make install
	===>  Installing for staroffice-5.1a
	===>   staroffice-5.1a depends on file: /compat/linux/usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libc.so.5 - found
	/usr/compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/ports/editors/staroffice5/work/tmp/sv001.tmp (No such file or directory), skipping
	StarOffice 5.1a (Sun Version) Personal Install How-To

	Written By:
	Darren Wiebe
	dkwiebe@hagenhomes.com
	
	You will very shortly be done a network install of StarOffice 5.1a.
	Once that is done run "make post-install".
	Once that is done exit X11 and run it again as the user that you usually use.
	Then run "make install-user" and do a standard workstation install.
	It will now be ready to use.
	
	Good Luck
	
	Bad system call - core dumped
	*** Error code 140 (ignored)
	===>   Generating temporary packing list
	install: /usr/local/Office51/bin: No such file or directory
	*** Error code 71
	
	Stop.
	*** Error code 1
	
	Stop.
	*** Error code 1
	Stop.
	imoore:/usr/ports/editors/staroffice5# 

Any ideas on why this happened? I'm running 3.2-Release & have the
32upgrade-1999.01.05 package installed

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Hi everybody,

Is there any CD-writer software known which I could use under Win98 to create 
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Lomax wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've set up ppp and run it using ppp -alias -auto pmdemand on a system
> running FreeBSD 3.2 (NO X-Windows).

For one thing, you have a demand but not a pmdemand. Your's looks like
mine except for the 127.... I have 10.0.0.0 I also have a setup for
pppctl. I can use it to dial. I haven't tried bringing ppp up without
the auto and using my pppctl dial shell script to force the dial.

Are you running a DNS server or sendmail running. Something that would
do a query and force the dial. I don't and it only redials when I
bring up my e-mail program or setiathome has a WU to send to Berkeley.

Kent

> 
> If I run ppp any other way (ie. substitute -auto with -interactive
> or -background) ppp does not work.
> 
> My actual problem is, I cant seem to stop ppp from always reconnecting if
> the link goes down.  If the link goes down, I DO NOT want my unix box to try
> to dial up again and re-establish the link.  I have tried the lines:
> 
> set redial 0 1
> set reconnect 0 0
> 
> but these seem to have no effect - my unix box will always dial up over and
> over (changing the timeout figures do seem to have an effect).  The above
> two lines are in the correct place in ppp.conf.    Is there something I'm
> missing?  Is it something to do with the fact I'm running ppp in auto mode?
> 
> Please find attached my ppp.conf file.
> 
> Any info appreciated.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Lomax
> 
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A really dumb question.  I know I have seen the answer but I can't find it
now.  One of my FreeBSD boxes is configured to send me mail each day, week,
month, the usual cron reports.  It sends the mail as Charlie Root.  However,
I have three BSD boxes now, and I would like two of them to send their mail
as Abel Root and Baker Root.  WHERE in the name of all that's wonderful is
the name Charlie Root and how is it changed?

Thanks in advance.

mvh/regards

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At 09:35 AM 1/21/00 +0100, James A Wilde wrote:
>A really dumb question.  I know I have seen the answer but I can't find it
>now.  One of my FreeBSD boxes is configured to send me mail each day, week,
>month, the usual cron reports.  It sends the mail as Charlie Root.  However,
>I have three BSD boxes now, and I would like two of them to send their mail
>as Abel Root and Baker Root.  WHERE in the name of all that's wonderful is
>the name Charlie Root and how is it changed?
>
>Thanks in advance.

Do chsh root, or change it directly in master.passwd with vipw.







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Hi,


Apologize me for disturbing your time and the subject might not fit to the list.

What happend to FreeBSD-3.4 RELEASE ?
I've got an announce from jkh that 3.4 has already been release but I've not
yet got any shipping announcement.


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Hi,

Who needs stable when unstable is so stable ?!?!?!

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When building rsync-2.3.2, I encountered the following error:

cc -O -pipe -Dss_family=__ss_family -Dss_len=__ss_len  -o rsync 
rsync.o generator.o receiver.o cleanup.o sender.o exclude.o util.o 
main.o checksum.o match.o syscall.o log.o backup.o options.o flist.o 
io.o compat.o hlink.o token.o uidlist.o socket.o fileio.o params.o 
loadparm.o clientserver.o access.o connection.o authenticate.o 
lib/getopt.o lib/fnmatch.o lib/compat.o lib/snprintf.o lib/mdfour.o  
getaddrinfo.o getnameinfo.o -lz
syscall.o: In function `do_mktemp':
syscall.o(.text+0x2e1): warning: mktemp() possibly used unsafely; 
consider using mkstemp()

Two machines, both on 3.3-19991207-SNAP, both building rsync-2.3.2, 
one suceeds, the other gets the above.  Go figure.

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Hi all .....

I am having the folloing problem on my freebsd machine:

I installed freeBSD 3.2 from CD.
All works fine except for the Xserver.

I ran the setup from /stand/sysinstall and entered all the information to the
best of my knowledge.
But when I type startx I get this distorted X

I have tried various other options with the setup, I have even installed a
different video card. ( trident and also SiS )
But i still pretty much get the same type of screen.
Changing the options just gives me different colours.

My specs are as follows:

Intel pentium
meccer 14" monitor ( no label for sync rate )
serial mouse
101 key board
trident TGUI 9440 -3 video card 


Thanks for your time
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Hello all,
I have a question about freebsd firewall, how can I set it to block (no
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On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 10:02:11PM +1300, Dan Langille wrote:

> Clues please.

The man page is a good place to start. mkstemp() creates a temporary filename
and opens it in one go, to avoid the race condition between testing for the 
file's existence and opening it. since the filenames generated by mkstemp()
et al are guessable and repeat, a malefactor could cause files to be
overwritten elsewhere via symbolic link chicanery.

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On 21 Jan 00, at 4:46, James Bailie wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 10:02:11PM +1300, Dan Langille wrote:
> 
> > Clues please.
> 
> The man page is a good place to start. mkstemp() creates a temporary
> filename and opens it in one go, to avoid the race condition between
> testing for the file's existence and opening it. since the filenames
> generated by mkstemp() et al are guessable and repeat, a malefactor could
> cause files to be overwritten elsewhere via symbolic link chicanery.

Thanks.  But the clues I want are those which enable this port to build.  
And more specifically, why does it build on one box and not the other.  
Same tarballs, etc.

Or more interestingly, if mktemp() is such a problem, why does one box 
allow it?


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Andreas Pleschutznig wrote:
> 
> Hi everybody,
> 
> Is there any CD-writer software known which I could use under Win98 to create
> the CD from the iso image?

Adaptec's EZ CD Creator 3.5 or 4 will burn an image. You just have to
change the iso name to something it recognizes.

Kent

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No, I haven't seen anything like you said.

     TfH

PS : please, keep all recipients of the original messages CC'd (else, it would be consulting, and I won't be cheap !)



Hiya, I got another e-mail from someone else telling me to check the info
on the partitions in the Novice install section..and sure enough, everytime
I install FreeBSD, after i've rebooted the computer the  /    /var  and
/usr     parts are all turned back to    They are there..just not
defined as /usr  /var and /
The swap part still is fine..this is real odd..he said he had the same
problem and just gave up :(  You ever heard of that happening?  no matter
what I seem to do while installing that happens..and I know the Exactly
what it says before I reboot is

wd0s2a  /    50mb   USF Y
wd0s2b SWAP  261MB  SWAP
wd0s2e /var  20mb   USF Y
wd0s2f /usr 2164mb  USF Y

After I reboot it goes to  -

wd0s2a   50mb  (i forget)
wd0s2b SWAP   261mb  (i forget)
wd0s2e   20mb  (i forget)
wd0s2f  2164mb (i forget)

You ever heard of this happening before? :(   well thanks for your time :)


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Login as whoever
type in chsh

you should be in a vi editor - change the name to whoever you want

Then edit from vi


At 09:35 21/01/00 +0100, you wrote:
>A really dumb question.  I know I have seen the answer but I can't find it
>now.  One of my FreeBSD boxes is configured to send me mail each day, week,
>month, the usual cron reports.  It sends the mail as Charlie Root.  However,
>I have three BSD boxes now, and I would like two of them to send their mail
>as Abel Root and Baker Root.  WHERE in the name of all that's wonderful is
>the name Charlie Root and how is it changed?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>mvh/regards
>
>James


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Is there a way to defrag a hard drive under FreeBSD?

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* Walter Brameld  [000121 02:46] wrote:
> Is there a way to defrag a hard drive under FreeBSD?

Yes, backup and restore, however...

There's very little reason why you would need to, FFS defrags
itself as it goes, it has a nifty trick where it will relocate
small chunks at the end of files to larger open spaces where
they can grow, if it detects them as growing.

There are some degenerate cases for FFS, I would search the hackers
or 'fs' FreeBSD mailing lists for examples.

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Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> 
> * Walter Brameld  [000121 02:46] wrote:
> > Is there a way to defrag a hard drive under FreeBSD?
> 
> Yes, backup and restore, however...
> 
> There's very little reason why you would need to, FFS defrags
> itself as it goes, it has a nifty trick where it will relocate
> small chunks at the end of files to larger open spaces where
> they can grow, if it detects them as growing.
> 
> There are some degenerate cases for FFS, I would search the hackers
> or 'fs' FreeBSD mailing lists for examples.
> 
> -Alfred

Thank you for the reply. I don't seem to be having a
problem, was just curious.

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-On [20000120 22:43], Steve Hovey (shovey@buffnet.net) wrote:
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>INN tends to need MMAP to work - it also requires a lot of ram if you have
>a full feed etc.  We had to leave it for dnews for those and other
>reasons.

And since mmap() on 3.x has some problems (largely due to the VM system
intricacy which changed a lot in 4.0) it would probably be better to use
it on 4.0 systems.

But Dnews and INN comparisations aren't really fair.  Last time I looked
at DNews it did more of a job as per leafnode(+), only fetching those
groups which are read.  INN is a full fledged newsserver as per
Typhoon/Breeze class.

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On Fri 2000-01-21 (22:02), Dan Langille wrote:
> syscall.o: In function `do_mktemp':
> syscall.o(.text+0x2e1): warning: mktemp() possibly used unsafely; 
> consider using mkstemp()
> 
> Two machines, both on 3.3-19991207-SNAP, both building rsync-2.3.2, 
> one suceeds, the other gets the above.  Go figure.
> 
> Clues please.

It's not a fatal error.  There is most probably another reason for
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On 21 Jan 00, at 12:48, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote:

> On Fri 2000-01-21 (22:02), Dan Langille wrote:
> > syscall.o: In function `do_mktemp':
> > syscall.o(.text+0x2e1): warning: mktemp() possibly used unsafely; 
> > consider using mkstemp()
> > 
> > Two machines, both on 3.3-19991207-SNAP, both building rsync-2.3.2, one
> > suceeds, the other gets the above.  Go figure.
> > 
> > Clues please.
> 
> It's not a fatal error.  There is most probably another reason for
> the failure.

Hmmm, found only this.  In messages:

Jan 21 22:11:24 fred /kernel: pid 48755 (cc1), uid 0: exited on signal 11 
(core dumped)
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-On [20000120 21:51], Gene Harris (zeus@tetronsoftware.com) wrote:
>I have a Linux RH 6.1 Workstation and a FreeBSD 3.4S Server
>on my local network.  Both are running XFree86 3.3.X almost
>full time.
>
>Is it possible to open an Xterm window on my FreeBSD box
>that connects to the Linux XFree server?

xterm -display linux.red.hat:0.0 ?

That what you needed to know?

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-On [20000121 00:14], Mitch Collinsworth (mkc@Graphics.Cornell.EDU) wrote:
>
>>All of this on a P200pro, 96mb RAM, and 50gb of ide disk. And we have
>>server to spare. We run our tucows mirror on the same box. (Of course,
>>I firmly beleive that 3x-stable is making all of this possible ;)
>
>Well since I'm preparing to build a new server soon I will consider
>DNEWS, too.  :-)  One thing you mentioned reminds me of a question I've
>been pondering.  Disks.  You said you're using 50 GB IDE.  I have no IDE
>experience (yet) but recent discussions had left me wondering if IDE was
>really up to the challenge of news.  I've been torn between buying new
>IDE drives and throwing some existing towers filled with 2 GB SCSI drives
>at it.  (Yes, I have a lot of old 2 GB drives, 7 to a box.) Given the I/O
>profile of news I'm not yet convinced the IDE drives would be faster.

I work for an ISP.  Our Current disk set-up is based on Seagate SCSI
Barracuda's of about 18 GB per disk, running over Fibrechannel.  This is
for a full feed (20 or so peers) of about 90-100 GB a day.

This large feed size is mostly due to alt.binaries, because some tests
were done which came to 12-20 GB of normal usenet traffic (no
alt.binaries and spam).  Quite a difference.

The IDE drives, IMHO, won't be able to cope with this feed.

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Hello,

 I decided to try qmail. I intalled, configured, as described in the
PORT_NOTES. I tried to send a mail to a local user, but I only
received a mail without body (I didn't see anything what I wrote after DATA)

I tried the proc+df, bimail1+df, home+df boot scripts.
(FreeBSD/i386 3.4-STABLE last cvsup: today)

What can cause the problem ?

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Try this URL; there is an FAQ on your error message:

http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/install.html#AEN682

Should get your install up and running. 

Dru


On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, J R wrote:

> Hello All,
>  
> Help!
> 
> 36 hours ago I purchased the 4 CD/ROM freeBSD 3.1 w/book.  I have spent the last 20 hours trying to get the system to reboot properly...err!  I keep getting an "kernel panic" just after "syncing disks" when trying to load drive 1 "wd0s1a.
> 
> I have evil WinNT-4.0 on drive 1  &  freeBSD on drive 2.  AMD-mmx 200, 64MB RAM, Asus MB, 13.1GB HD-NT4.0 Server, 3.1GB HD FreeBSD, 3Com-905 NIC...
> 
> I removed Linux from drive 2 and installed freeBSD there.  everything was going GREAT with the Linux / NT combo...I just wanted to upgrade to FreeBSD.
> 
> I have tried every booting sequence combination available...but yours...!
> I have re-partitioned every combination I could fathom....removed and added MBR and all that good stuff!!!
> 
> No matter what combination I still can't get any FreeBSD boot loader to become active.  I have to force the BIOS to load only from drive 2 "D".  Then FreeBSD loads...gets to the syncing disks...looks for drive "0" and crashes on the spot!...error prompt say it will now reboot in a few seconds...and it does...over and over and over.
> 
> I am on my 14th repartition and reload of FreeBSD.  I have tried the "Live File System" but that too is a waste of time.
> 
> I have even tried using the "NT 4.0 Loader" to select FreeBSD from that...NT is stupid and says it does not allow this even though the arrangement is correct.
> 
> PLEASE help...I'm running out of patience.
> 
> 
> JR
> 
> 
> 



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Hi Sam,

(I did not reply to freebsd-newbies as this post belong on questions, not
newbies)

Regarding modifying the boot.ini, go to:

http://www.freebsd.org/faq

and under section 7. System Administration you want How Can I Use the NT
Loader to Boot BSD.

I've done this on dozens of systems with success.

However, if I was starting from scratch, I'd save myself some hassle
and physically swith the drives so I could install BSD on the first drive. 
I've had better luck modifying the boot.ini to point to NT on my 2nd drive
than to muck with putting BSD on a second drive.

When you install BSD, remember to say yes to installing the boot manager.
Note  you'll end up with TWO boot menus; one will be a press F1 or F2 menu
which will be followed by the NT boot menu if you choose NT.

Once you've added BSD to your boot.ini and verified that you can boot both
OSs from NT, an fdisk /mbr removes the BSD boot menu and you're left with
just NT's boot menu. Pretty slick. My test box is running Win98, NT WS, NT
Server, FreeBSD and Novell 5, all booting from my boot.ini.  Of the lot,
BSD was the easiest to install where I wanted it to go; the only one that
had me pulling out my hair was Novell--but that's another story.

If you are wary of messing with your boot.ini, email me off the list for
help.

Dru




On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Sam Hays wrote:

> Here's the whole deal,
> 
> I have a primary and secondary HDD (1.6 and 1.2 respectively) -
> on HD1 I have Windows NT , on HD2 I have Fat16 (which I'm using as a backup
> drive right now) -
> 
> What I'm wanting to do is, install freebsd on Drive 2 and somehow add it to
> the NT boot.ini boot loader (if not, I suppose I will go with the FreeBSD
> boot loader) - I need to know if freebsd 3.3 supports NTFS -
> also, another scenario I'm worried about is -
> Say I install BSD - suddenly NT Crashes and I have to reload - fine -
> NT always overwrites the MBR - thus making it (impossible?) hard to get into
> BSD again w/out reinstalling -
> can someone gimme some comments on all that?
> thanks
> -Sam
> 
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hi!
i just want to know how to make my ASUS ATAPI/IDE cdrom work under
freebsd. i've searched the archives, but they mostly relay to older
versions of freebsd.
i have the followin in kernel config:

controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" irq 14 flags 0xa0ffa0ff
disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0

controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" irq 15
disk wd1 at wdc1 drive 1
options ATAPI
options ATAPI_STATIC
device wdc0

and when it successfully compiles and installes, and i boot, i halt with
message:

panic: drive attached twice

help me please.

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> disk wd1 at wdc1 drive 1
			 ^ 0
i meant drive 0 of course ;)

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hi all,

when FreeBSD 4.0 will be out as RELEASE version? I have 1 FreeBSD
production machine and I'm planning to estimate an update time for it.
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On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 01:34:35PM +0530, Greg Lehey wrote:
> On Friday, 21 January 2000 at  1:35:33 -0500, John Baldwin wrote:
> >
> > On 21-Jan-00 Greg Lehey wrote:
> >> On Thursday, 20 January 2000 at 19:15:43 -0500, Crist J. Clark wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 01:56:07PM -0500, John H. Baldwin wrote:
> >>>> I've read the vinum(4) and vinum(8) manpages as well as the webpages at
> >>>> www.lemis.com/~grog/vinum.html, and while they are very good as far as
> >>>> setup and configuration info, I haven't been able to find a lot of info
> >>>> about recovering.  I have a stale subdisk that I can't get to recover no
> >>>> matter how many different start commands I try.  I've tried starting the
> >>>> volume, the plex, and the subdisk itself with no success.
> >>>>
> >>>> # vinum list
> >>>> Configuration summary
> >>>>
> >>>> Drives:         3 (4 configured)
> >>>> Volumes:        1 (4 configured)
> >>>> Plexes:         1 (8 configured)
> >>>> Subdisks:       3 (16 configured)
> >>>>
> >>>> D vinumdrive0           State: up       Device /dev/da1s1e      Avail: 0/8683 MB (0%)
> >>>> D vinumdrive1           State: up       Device /dev/da2s1e      Avail: 0/8683 MB (0%)
> >>>> D vinumdrive2           State: up       Device /dev/da3s1e      Avail: 0/8683 MB (0%)
> >>>>
> >>>> V ftp_mirror            State: up       Plexes:       1 Size:         25 GB
> >>>>
> >>>> P ftp_mirror.p0       S State: corrupt  Subdisks:     3 Size:         25 GB
> >>>>
> >>>> S ftp_mirror.p0.s0      State: up       PO:        0  B Size:       8683 MB
> >>>> S ftp_mirror.p0.s1      State: up       PO:      256 kB Size:       8683 MB
> >>>> S ftp_mirror.p0.s2      State: stale    PO:      512 kB Size:       8683 MB
> >>>>
> >>>> # vinum start ftp_mirror.p0.s2
> >>>> Can't start ftp_mirror.p0.s2: Device busy (16)
> >>
> >> Hmm.  That shouldn't happen.
> >
> > Well, that's comforting. :)
> 
> Hmm.  Looking at this more carefully, yes, you can't do anything
> there.  You just don't have the information to recover the subdisk.
> I'm still debating what to do in this case; there's no way to bring it
> back to a guaranteed consistent state here, but you *can* use the
> 'setupstate' command to fake it.

When I was having troubles with an iffy SCSI HDD a week or two or go,
this is _exactly_ what would happen to me too, the "Device busy (16)"
message. The only thing I found to fix it was a forced stop, and it
seemed to always work. Sorry if it is not the idel way to go, but it
is what worked fine for me.

> >>> You have to 'stop' everything first. (I might be overkilling here,
> >>> but better safe...)
> >>
> >> No, that's not safe.  That would mean taking down the volume.

I my case it was a striped setup so once one subdisk was down, the
whole plex was useless. There was no reason not to stop everything.

[snip]
> >> I haven't seen this before.  How about the information I ask for in
> >> the web page?

I have abundant /var/log/message info from my problems. Need more
data?

[snip]
> > However, the drive seems to have fallen over again (*sigh*) with the
> > following kernel messages:
> >
> > Jan 20 23:28:38 raven /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:1:0): SCB 0x96 - timed out while idle, LASTPHASE == 0x1, SEQADDR == 0xa
> > Jan 20 23:28:38 raven /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:1:0): Queuing a BDR SCB
> > Jan 20 23:28:38 raven /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:1:0): Bus Device Reset Message Sent
> > Jan 20 23:28:38 raven /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:1:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b
> > Jan 20 23:28:38 raven /kernel: ahc1: Bus Device Reset on A:1. 1 SCBs aborted
> 
> Yup, that looks like a hardware problem; possibly bus termination or
> some such.  Vinum is good at finding suboptimal SCSI chains, since it
> issues multiple requests in parallel.
> 
> > Note that I didn't get this message until after the drive had been
> > booted for a while,
> 
> Right, that's relatively typical.

Yup, that's the general type of error I was getting. I finally
narrowed it down to one of the drives after swapping SCSI cards,
changing all of the external cabling, swapping terminators, and
disassembling and reassembling the two shoeboxes the drives live
in. SCSI can be a real pain sometimes.
-- 
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Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote:
> 
> -On [20000121 00:14], Mitch Collinsworth (mkc@Graphics.Cornell.EDU) wrote:
> >
> >>All of this on a P200pro, 96mb RAM, and 50gb of ide disk. And we have
> >>server to spare. We run our tucows mirror on the same box. (Of course,
> >>I firmly beleive that 3x-stable is making all of this possible ;)
> >
> >Well since I'm preparing to build a new server soon I will consider
> >DNEWS, too.  :-)  One thing you mentioned reminds me of a question I've
> >been pondering.  Disks.  You said you're using 50 GB IDE.  I have no IDE
> >experience (yet) but recent discussions had left me wondering if IDE was
> >really up to the challenge of news.  I've been torn between buying new
> >IDE drives and throwing some existing towers filled with 2 GB SCSI drives
> >at it.  (Yes, I have a lot of old 2 GB drives, 7 to a box.) Given the I/O
> >profile of news I'm not yet convinced the IDE drives would be faster.

For the record, we are using 3 western digital 7200rpm 27gb drives. 50gb
is used for DNEWS spool, the rest for tucows mirrors (Less the OS of
course)

> 
> I work for an ISP.  Our Current disk set-up is based on Seagate SCSI
> Barracuda's of about 18 GB per disk, running over Fibrechannel.  This is
> for a full feed (20 or so peers) of about 90-100 GB a day.
> This large feed size is mostly due to alt.binaries, because some tests
> were done which came to 12-20 GB of normal usenet traffic (no
> alt.binaries and spam).  Quite a difference.

We are also ISP's. According to C&W, and UU Net, a full feed is about
12gb a day. From what I have heard, (and experience) that's pretty much
the norm in the US. I had always heard that the European feeds where
much bigger. How much history do you keep? With 50gb, we manage to keep
about 5days worth of binaries, and about 30 days worth of everything
else.

 
> The IDE drives, IMHO, won't be able to cope with this feed.

We didn't think the IDE's would work either.. until we tried them. Check
out the I/O numbers on the new 7200rmp IDE's vs older SCSI drives. The
fact of the matter is that SCSI drive's will alway out perform IDE's.
It's all in what you do with them. We have 3 T1's going to/from the news
server. Even really old IDE's will stand up pretty well to 4.5mbs
throughput.

There is one other feature of DNEWS that I didn't mention. It has really
good anti-spam features, like the ability to block via a filter file,
and the ability to set limits to crossposts. You can even set it to
delete the crossposts when the original message expires. We use a really
agressive filter, and block about 20% of the binararies coming in. 

-- 
Bob Martin, bob@buckhorn.net
http://www.buckhorn.net

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World
War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
		-- Albert Einstein


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The master password file - do a vipw, or chpass root

On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, James A Wilde wrote:

> A really dumb question.  I know I have seen the answer but I can't find it
> now.  One of my FreeBSD boxes is configured to send me mail each day, week,
> month, the usual cron reports.  It sends the mail as Charlie Root.  However,
> I have three BSD boxes now, and I would like two of them to send their mail
> as Abel Root and Baker Root.  WHERE in the name of all that's wonderful is
> the name Charlie Root and how is it changed?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> mvh/regards
> 
> James
> 
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> 
> But Dnews and INN comparisations aren't really fair.  Last time I looked
> at DNews it did more of a job as per leafnode(+), only fetching those
> groups which are read.  INN is a full fledged newsserver as per
> Typhoon/Breeze class.

Dnews supports suck feeds, but also takes IHAVE streaming full feeds. With
each new release of INN, my performance fell.

I do not know about the current INN - but at the time it forked procs to
handle connections etc, whereas Dnews uses threads.  Less over all ram
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I thought there was an 8 or 9 gig lim on what freebsd could see of any one
signle drive - is this limitation gone? or is there some technic for
slicing something larger up?



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Hi!

Just curious about this line in kernel config

    controller      wdc1    at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr

what do those "vector" and "wdintr" mean?

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Hi!

I've written special login.conf to restrict regular users access/auth
rights.  Particulary, login no more than on 4 consoles, and no login from
certain ttys, timelimits, etc.

So, it seems that login should call proper pam modules, configured in
/etc/pam.conf (which is left default for now, until I figure all things
out).

The odd thing is that certain restrictions work, such as maxproc limits
(and relatives), while the others do not (login sessions number limits,
autologoff when timelimit reached, etc).  Moreover, I see no PAM[...]
entries in syslog logs (I have *.* all go to /dev/ttyvb) -- nothing like
this there.

So, what program has to check all those?  Login?  But it inself should be
using PAM whenever possible.  For instance, under Linux, there's
pam_nologin module, which checks for nologin file (/etc/ under linux and
/var/run/ under fBSD).  I can't see any evidence that PAM routines get
called on my system.

If you need any addition info, say it ;-)  I'm using 3.4-RELEASE.
Standard /etc/pam.conf (no pam.d directory), I didn't change that.

How to enable PAM?

Thanx.

./danfe




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Hi all,

I have installed FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE on my laptop a few days ago, but I
can't use my PCMCIA Ethernet card. My laptop is a DTK Computer Top-5A Fortis
Pro (Made in Taiwan) and the card is an Apollo Ethernet PC Card, also Made
in Taiwan. It worked flawlessly under Win98, and I tried the same irq (7)
and port (0x320-0x33f) numbers, without any success. I believe it is a
NE2000 compatible card, so I tried the ed driver. When the machine boots it
detects (I believe) the PCMCIA controller (pcic0, pcic1), but it doesn't
detect the ed card. When it gets to the rc.pccard script it prints that the
PCIC module is compiled in, but pccardc prints:
pccardc: /dev/card0: Device not configured
The card0 and card1 devices exist. Also, pccardc dumpcis, prints:
0 slots found
What I am trying to figure out first of all, is whether my PCMCIA controller
is really recognized and I have trouble detecting the ethernet card, or not.
If that is the case, I wonder what else should I try: other drivers, other
settings (I did try the defaults, of course), something else? Can I somehow
query the card or the controller for info?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Further info:

# uname -a
FreeBSD laptop 3.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE #8: Wed Jan 19 20:27:19 EET
2000     root@laptop:/usr/src/sys/compile/LAPTOP  i386

# dmesg
Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc.
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE #8: Wed Jan 19 20:27:19 EET 2000
    root@laptop:/usr/src/sys/compile/LAPTOP
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: Pentium/P55C (233.86-MHz 586-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x543  Stepping = 3
  Features=0x8001bf
real memory  = 67108864 (65536K bytes)
config> di wt0
config> di scd0
config> di mcd0
config> di matcdc0
config> di bt0
config> di aha0
config> di adv0
config> q
avail memory = 61751296 (60304K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc035b000.
Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc035b09c.
Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
chip0:  rev 0x01 on pci0.0.0
chip1:  rev 0x01 on pci0.1.0
ide_pci0:  rev 0x01 on pci0.1.1
chip2:  rev 0x01 on pci0.1.3
vga0:  rev
0xc2 on pci0.6.0
pcic0:  rev 0x01 int a irq 255 on pci0.14.0
pcic1:  rev 0x01 int b irq 255 on pci0.14.1
Probing for PnP devices:
Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
sc0 on isa
sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
ed0 not found at 0x320
fe0 not found at 0x300
atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard
atkbd0 irq 1 on isa
psm0 irq 12 on isa
psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa
sio1: type 16550A
pcm0 at 0x220 irq 9 drq 0 flags 0x13 on isa
ESS1868 (rev 11)
fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in
wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa
wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): 
wd0: 3102MB (6354432 sectors), 6304 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S
wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa
wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, accel, dma, iordis
acd0: drive speed 3445KB/sec, 128KB cache
acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA
acd0: Audio: play, 256 volume levels
acd0: Mechanism: ejectable popup
acd0: Medium: CD-ROM 120mm data disc loaded, unlocked
ppc0 at 0x378 irq 5 flags 0x40 on isa
ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/15 bytes threshold
lpt0:  on ppbus 0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0:  on ppbus 0
plip0:  on ppbus 0
ie0: unknown board_id: f000
ie0 not found at 0x300
ep0 not found at 0x300
ex0 not found
le0 not found at 0x300
lnc0 not probed due to drq conflict with pcm0 at 0
cs0 not found at 0x300
vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa
npx0 on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
apm0 on isa
apm: found APM BIOS version 1.2
Initializing PC-card drivers: ed ep fe sio
Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug
changing root device to wd0s1a
cd9660: RockRidge Extension

# cat /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LAPTOP|grep -v "^#"

machine  "i386"
cpu  "I586_CPU"
ident  LAPTOP
maxusers 32

options  INET   #InterNETworking
options  FFS   #Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options  FFS_ROOT  #FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
options  MFS   #Memory Filesystem
options  MFS_ROOT  #MFS usable as root device, "MFS" req'ed
options  NFS   #Network Filesystem
options  NFS_ROOT  #NFS usable as root device, "NFS" req'ed
options  MSDOSFS   #MSDOS Filesystem
options  "CD9660"  #ISO 9660 Filesystem
options  "CD9660_ROOT"  #CD-ROM usable as root. "CD9660" req'ed
options  PROCFS   #Process filesystem
options  "COMPAT_43"  #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
options  SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device
options  UCONSOLE  #Allow users to grab the console
options  FAILSAFE  #Be conservative
options  USERCONFIG  #boot -c editor
options  VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor

config  kernel root on wd0


controller isa0
controller pnp0
controller eisa0
controller pci0

controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2
disk  fd0 at fdc0 drive 0
disk  fd1 at fdc0 drive 1

options  "CMD640" # work around CMD640 chip deficiency
controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14
disk  wd0 at wdc0 drive 0
disk  wd1 at wdc0 drive 1

controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15
disk  wd2 at wdc1 drive 0
disk  wd3 at wdc1 drive 1

options  ATAPI  #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus
options  ATAPI_STATIC #Don't do it as an LKM
device  acd0  #IDE CD-ROM
device  wfd0  #IDE Floppy (e.g. LS-120)

controller ncr0
controller ahb0
controller ahc0
controller isp0

controller      dpt0

controller adv0 at isa? port ? cam irq ?
controller adw0
controller bt0 at isa? port ? cam irq ?
controller aha0 at isa? port ? cam irq ?

controller scbus0

device  da0

device  sa0

device  pass0

device  cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows

device  wt0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1
device  mcd0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10

controller matcd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio

device  scd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio

controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty
device  atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1
device  psm0 at isa? tty irq 12

device  vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts

pseudo-device splash

device  sc0 at isa? tty

device  npx0 at isa? port IO_NPX irq 13

device  apm0    at isa? # Advanced Power Management (v1.2)

controller card0
device  pcic0 at card?
device  pcic1 at card?

device  sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" flags 0x10 tty irq 4
device  sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3
device  sio2 at isa? disable port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5
device  sio3 at isa? disable port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9

device  ppc0 at isa? port? flags 0x40 net irq 5
controller ppbus0
device  lpt0 at ppbus?
device  plip0 at ppbus?
device  ppi0 at ppbus?

device al0  # ADMtek AL981 (``Comet'')
device ax0  # ASIX AX88140A
device de0  # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
device fxp0  # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
device mx0  # Macronix 98713/98715/98725 (``PMAC'')
device pn0  # Lite-On 82c168/82c169 (``PNIC'')
device rl0  # RealTek 8129/8139
device sf0  # Adaptec AIC-6915 DuraLAN (``Starfire'')
device tl0  # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
device tx0  # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'')
device vr0  # VIA Rhine, Rhine II
device vx0  # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')
device wb0  # Winbond W89C840F
device xl0  # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')


device ed0 at isa? port 0x320 net irq 7 iomem 0xd8000
device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000
device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10
device ex0 at isa? port? net irq?
device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ?
device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000
device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0
device cs0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ?

pseudo-device loop
pseudo-device ether
pseudo-device sl 1
pseudo-device ppp 1
pseudo-device tun 1
pseudo-device pty 16
pseudo-device gzip  # Exec gzipped a.out's

options  KTRACE  #kernel tracing

options  SYSVSHM
options  SYSVMSG
options  SYSVSEM

pseudo-device bpfilter 1 #Berkeley packet filter

device pcm0 at isa ? port? tty irq 9 drq 0 flags 0x13


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	I have an old Vectra 486 that I brought home to set up for a gateway at
	work, over the weekend.

	Unfortunately the 1.2G drive that I brought seems to be bad, either
	that or the disk controler.

	I have a 20G drive that would like to put in this machine over the
	weekend amd do som make worlds to test if it's the drive or the
	controler.

	Unfortunately I can't seem to get the BIOS to tell the FreeBSD boot
	loader about this drive. Even though it appears to be detected corectly
	by the BIOS. When I boot off the install disks, I only get a message
	about BIOSdrive A. However I was able to get FreebSD to recognize the
	disk and install (since it does not use the BISO, I assume).

	However that leaves me with a system that will not boot. So I am
	wondering if I can build some sort of boot floppy for this machine? I
	really jsut need to get it booted up inot FreeBSD once to run the test.
	I amm not going to doante my 20G drive to work :-) But if I determine
	that the problem really is the drive, and not the controler I can get a
	new/old drive at work Monday.

	Thanks for any sugestiosn on this.

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On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>I used vipw and added the home directory at the end of the `toor' line.
>
>    toor:*:0:0:Bourne-again Superuser:/root:/bin/sh

So does toor need a home directory in order to have a different
password from root?  At this point, when i su or login as toor, when i
run passwd or chsh, it references root.

Also, i DLed the development version of zsh, and when i run 'su -m
root' it says
root: unable to open input file: root

Same thing with toor

toor: unable to open inupt file: toor

Is this input file a zsh file, or something else?

-jm

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This is the response I get back from the Linux server when I
attempt to connect to it from freebsd:

bash-2.03$ xterm -display 10.0.0.1:0.0
XLib: connection to "10.0.0.1:0.0" refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 10.0.0.1:0.0

I can, however, log in using rlogin or telnet.  It is just
that when I enter the above command, no line screen occurs
and I cannot find in the man pages a way to supply a uname
and passwd.  I tried the -name parameter, but that isn't for
supply a login name.

Unfortunately, I get no log messages from the Redhat
xclient when I attempt to connect.

So, after reading the docs on Xfree.org's web site, I am
still in the dark.  My Xfree setup on my freebsd machine is
standard, out of the box from a source code download and
perhaps a package install from /stand/sysinstall.  The
Redhat setup is right out of the box, and the Xclient is
using authentication.

*==============================================*
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote:

>  -On [20000120 21:51], Gene Harris (zeus@tetronsoftware.com) wrote:
>  >I have a Linux RH 6.1 Workstation and a FreeBSD 3.4S Server
>  >on my local network.  Both are running XFree86 3.3.X almost
>  >full time.
>  >
>  >Is it possible to open an Xterm window on my FreeBSD box
>  >that connects to the Linux XFree server?
>  
>  xterm -display linux.red.hat:0.0 ?
>  
>  That what you needed to know?
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I see them all over, and i searched the archives, but where is a
definition?

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On Friday, 21 January 2000 at 14:59:55 +0200, stefan parvu wrote:
> hi all,
>
> when FreeBSD 4.0 will be out as RELEASE version? 

Soon.

> I have 1 FreeBSD production machine

You don't want to run 4.0-RELEASE on a production machine unless you
have a Real Good Reason.  Consider it a gamma release.

> and I'm planning to estimate an update time for it.  and by the way
> where can I found some details about what's new in this major
> version ?

Good question.  It's in the text filesq in -CURRENT, but I don't
know if we have it anywhere else.  Maybe somebody else can help.

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On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, btwo cfuor wrote:

>Hi there 
>i want to ask a simple question on x-windows. the
>defult interface I'm using is KDE how do i switch to
>gnome or other interfaces that i have do i have to
>edit a file or is the a utility like the one in linux
>so you can switch from an interface to another 

If i understand your question, you want to edit '.xinitrc' or
.xsessions' to do this.  Also, if you run sysinstall, there is an
option under configure near the bottom of the menu that lets you
change desktops easily.  I think sysinstall edits the files for you,
assuming you have those Windowmanagers installed.

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Hello List-Members,

Is there a list of the variables tweakable by sysctl and what they
mean?  I am particularly interested in the "usermount" (or something to
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Thanks in advance for your help.

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At last check the port did work for the english version of StarOffice. 
However, I have not tried the Spanish version yet.  There is a german
version if you look in the german ports directory.  I think that it
sounds like a file called applicat.rdb has to be replace with the
correct version.  However, you have to get the correct version off of a
linux box running the same version of StarOffice.

Darren Wiebe
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Eduardo Huertas wrote:
> 
> OK
> This worked, including the not so elegant problems when it's started:
> 
> "The component (PluginManager) could not be loaded.
> Please start setup with the option repair."
> 
> and
> 
> "InternetSetupWizard: No resource loader found."
> 
> But seems it's working, that's important :)
> 
> What about the procedure with the port?  Somebody knows if it works?
> 
> Is there a better way?  Sorry Ken ;)
> 
> Hector Colmenares  wrote:
> 
>         Try this
> 
>         http://www.serv.net/~mcglk/staroffice-install.html
> 
> cheers.
> 
> On 19 Jan 2000, Eduardo Huertas wrote:
> 
> > That's nice!
> >
> > I'm still in trouble.
> >
> >
> >
> > Darren Wiebe  wrote:
> >
> >
> > I just got back from holidays and have over 4000 emails to worry
> > about.
> >
> > I will be looking into this one in the next couple of days.
> >
> >
> >
> > Darren Wiebe
> >
> >
> > Eduardo Huertas  wrote:
> > I have FreeBSD 3.2 installed and I got the port for StarOffice 5.1 from the
> > net
> > but it seems is designed only for the English version.
> >
> > I have the SUN´s CD and when I do the MAKE command everything seems ok but
> > when I do the MAKE install. It reports the following problem:
> >
> > /usr/compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig: warning can't open
> > /usr/ports/editors/staroffice5/work/tmp/sv001.tmp (no such file or
> > directory),
> > skipping
> >
> > I do the setup and when it finishes writes another errors:
> > 100755: not found
> > *** error code 1
> > stop.
> >
> > Then I try to MAKE post-install and again:
> > 100755: not found
> >
> > What I must do to install the Spanish version of StarOffice?
> >
> > Thank you very much.
> >
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Part of the problem could be your relatively old release of FreeBSD.  I
can't make any guarantees but I would not recommend it on less than 3.3
release.  Also, I would look in the file
"/usr/compat/linux/etc/ld.so.conf" and clean out any junk lines.

Darren Wiebe
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Ian Moore wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Thanks Ales for letting me know about the staroffice5 port.
> I tried running it today - I got the various dependencyies & installed them,
> then did a make, which ran without error. When I did the make install, I got
> the following:
> 
>         imoore:/usr/ports/editors/staroffice5# make install
>         ===>  Installing for staroffice-5.1a
>         ===>   staroffice-5.1a depends on file: /compat/linux/usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libc.so.5 - found
>         /usr/compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/ports/editors/staroffice5/work/tmp/sv001.tmp (No such file or directory), skipping
>         StarOffice 5.1a (Sun Version) Personal Install How-To
> 
>         Written By:
>         Darren Wiebe
>         dkwiebe@hagenhomes.com
> 
>         You will very shortly be done a network install of StarOffice 5.1a.
>         Once that is done run "make post-install".
>         Once that is done exit X11 and run it again as the user that you usually use.
>         Then run "make install-user" and do a standard workstation install.
>         It will now be ready to use.
> 
>         Good Luck
> 
>         Bad system call - core dumped
>         *** Error code 140 (ignored)
>         ===>   Generating temporary packing list
>         install: /usr/local/Office51/bin: No such file or directory
>         *** Error code 71
> 
>         Stop.
>         *** Error code 1
> 
>         Stop.
>         *** Error code 1
>         Stop.
>         imoore:/usr/ports/editors/staroffice5#
> 
> Any ideas on why this happened? I'm running 3.2-Release & have the
> 32upgrade-1999.01.05 package installed
> 
> Cheers,
> --
> Ian Moore
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man sysctl has a small list.  The primary place I have found
the identifiers is in /usr/include/sys/sysctl.h.  You can
also do sysctl -aA | more to view all the parameters.  You
can then cross reference the print out against the sysctl.h
header to gain a better understanding how to track the
variable use in the source.

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On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Peter Schwenk wrote:

>  Hello List-Members,
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I have never seen a description as such but I can try to describe them
in my own words.  They are basically a port that has a bunch of other
ports as dependancies, so when you install it, what it actually does is
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oh, guys, never mind! ;-)
i finally get it to work ok.  but, cdcontrol doesn't want to play tracks!
cdplay plays, and cdcontrol only allows to eject/close tray, stop playing
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cdcontrol> play
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any suggestion will be apprecaited.

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In the last episode (Jan 21), Steve Hovey said:
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> any one signle drive - is this limitation gone? or is there some
> technic for slicing something larger up?

I don't think there has ever been a limit on drive size; I had a 60-gig
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Steve Hovey wrote:
> 
> I thought there was an 8 or 9 gig lim on what freebsd could see of any one
> signle drive - is this limitation gone? or is there some technic for
> slicing something larger up?
> 

AFAIK there is no limit for SCSI drives (yet - wait for the 2TB drives).
For IDE drives there were several limitations - mainly the wd driver uses
CHS translation instead of LBA unless you tell the driver to use LBA
(check out /usr/src/sys/conf/LINT?).  For my drive I set the paramater
flags to 0xb0ffb0ff - YMMV.

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Hi Ian,

> /usr/compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig: warning: can't open
/usr/ports/editors/staroffice5/work/tmp/sv001.tmp (No such file or
directory), skipping

This is Ok.

> Bad system call - core dumped
> *** Error code 140 (ignored)
> ===>   Generating temporary packing list
> install: /usr/local/Office51/bin: No such file or directory

I had this error once that Itried to install it with the linux_base-6.1
port, then I had to remove this port and install the linux_base-5.2 port,
and all went smoothly.

P.S. You have to do this in an xterm because it will start the installation
screen.

Have Fun...
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I have one more X question.  How can I perform cut and
paste between two xterm windows?

As an example, I execute a command in one xterm and I
want to include the results in an email I am writing with
pine in a different xterm.  Currently, I dump the output to
a file and then read it into pine.  But for commands with
concise output, a simple cut and paste might be more
convenient.

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On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Gene Harris wrote:

>I have one more X question.  How can I perform cut and
>paste between two xterm windows?

Highlight the text with mouse, of course.  Then click middle button,
or left+right where you want it pasted.  It isn't as robust as
Windows, but it works.  I sometimes have problems when i don't paste
immediately, i.e. there are other mouse clicks moving windows around
before i actually paste.  The text seems to get lost in the
shuffle.  So i try to have bot windows on top and ready.  Also, it
seems to me that you need to use an editor, not a view.  Selecting
text in a viewer (like the one in migdnight commander) doesn't
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Hi,

To cut + paste is quite easy:-

cut:

select what you want to copy.  done!  Leave it selected.

paste:

while selected, move to where you want to paste it and press the middle
button on the mouse!  If you only have 2 buttons then press them both at
once.

Done!

CAUTION: Watch out.  It will paste carriage returns etc as well so if you
have a command that wants to change from

rm -rf /

changes to

rm -rf /opt/netscape

then make sure you dont select past the end of the line otherwise it'll
copy the CR then bye bye BSD etc.

Hope this helps.  It makes life very easy :-)

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Regarding LBA.  I have an old i486 that I am going to convert from
DOS/Win95 to FreeBSD 3.3 - Release.  The machine currently cannot recognize
LBA, thus unable to format correctly drives over 515MB.  I got the software
from the manufacturer of the motherboard for flashing the BIOS to update it
to understand LBA, but is this necessary for FreeBSD?  or is it just a DOS
problem?  





At 09:52 AM 1/21/00 -0600, you wrote:
>On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Steve Hovey wrote:
>> 
>> I thought there was an 8 or 9 gig lim on what freebsd could see of any one
>> signle drive - is this limitation gone? or is there some technic for
>> slicing something larger up?
>> 
>
>AFAIK there is no limit for SCSI drives (yet - wait for the 2TB drives).
>For IDE drives there were several limitations - mainly the wd driver uses
>CHS translation instead of LBA unless you tell the driver to use LBA
>(check out /usr/src/sys/conf/LINT?).  For my drive I set the paramater
>flags to 0xb0ffb0ff - YMMV.
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Thanks, but the problem is that I cannot download this software as it is
licensed and sold by Adaptec.

Does anybody know of a free product? It doesn't have to be fancy, just burn the
ISO image. The CE!Quadrat which I got with my PC does not seem to be able to
write an image.

Andy

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> Adaptec's EZ CD Creator 3.5 or 4 will burn an image. You just have to
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When will it be released? Any date set yet?

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No there was something - unless it was adaptec related.

On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Dan Nelson wrote:

> In the last episode (Jan 21), Steve Hovey said:
> > I thought there was an 8 or 9 gig lim on what freebsd could see of
> > any one signle drive - is this limitation gone? or is there some
> > technic for slicing something larger up?
> 
> I don't think there has ever been a limit on drive size; I had a 60-gig
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I can reporth the port does work, I am useing it now

On 21-Jan-00 Darren Wiebe wrote:
> At last check the port did work for the english version of StarOffice. 
> However, I have not tried the Spanish version yet.  There is a german
> version if you look in the german ports directory.  I think that it
> sounds like a file called applicat.rdb has to be replace with the
> correct version.  However, you have to get the correct version off of a
> linux box running the same version of StarOffice.
> 
> Darren Wiebe
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> 
> Eduardo Huertas wrote:
>> 
>> OK
>> This worked, including the not so elegant problems when it's started:
>> 
>> "The component (PluginManager) could not be loaded.
>> Please start setup with the option repair."
>> 
>> and
>> 
>> "InternetSetupWizard: No resource loader found."
>> 
>> But seems it's working, that's important :)
>> 
>> What about the procedure with the port?  Somebody knows if it works?
>> 
>> Is there a better way?  Sorry Ken ;)
>> 
>> Hector Colmenares  wrote:
>> 
>>         Try this
>> 
>>         http://www.serv.net/~mcglk/staroffice-install.html
>> 
>> cheers.
>> 
>> On 19 Jan 2000, Eduardo Huertas wrote:
>> 
>> > That's nice!
>> >
>> > I'm still in trouble.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Darren Wiebe  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > I just got back from holidays and have over 4000 emails to worry
>> > about.
>> >
>> > I will be looking into this one in the next couple of days.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Darren Wiebe
>> >
>> >
>> > Eduardo Huertas  wrote:
>> > I have FreeBSD 3.2 installed and I got the port for StarOffice 5.1 from
>> > the
>> > net
>> > but it seems is designed only for the English version.
>> >
>> > I have the SUN´s CD and when I do the MAKE command everything seems ok but
>> > when I do the MAKE install. It reports the following problem:
>> >
>> > /usr/compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig: warning can't open
>> > /usr/ports/editors/staroffice5/work/tmp/sv001.tmp (no such file or
>> > directory),
>> > skipping
>> >
>> > I do the setup and when it finishes writes another errors:
>> > 100755: not found
>> > *** error code 1
>> > stop.
>> >
>> > Then I try to MAKE post-install and again:
>> > 100755: not found
>> >
>> > What I must do to install the Spanish version of StarOffice?
>> >
>> > Thank you very much.
>> >
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On Friday, 21 January 2000 at  8:34:02 -0500, Crist J. Clark wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 01:34:35PM +0530, Greg Lehey wrote:
>> On Friday, 21 January 2000 at  1:35:33 -0500, John Baldwin wrote:
>>>
>>> On 21-Jan-00 Greg Lehey wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, 20 January 2000 at 19:15:43 -0500, Crist J. Clark wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 01:56:07PM -0500, John H. Baldwin wrote:
>>>>>> I've read the vinum(4) and vinum(8) manpages as well as the webpages at
>>>>>> www.lemis.com/~grog/vinum.html, and while they are very good as far as
>>>>>> setup and configuration info, I haven't been able to find a lot of info
>>>>>> about recovering.  I have a stale subdisk that I can't get to recover no
>>>>>> matter how many different start commands I try.  I've tried starting the
>>>>>> volume, the plex, and the subdisk itself with no success.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # vinum list
>>>>>> Configuration summary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Drives:         3 (4 configured)
>>>>>> Volumes:        1 (4 configured)
>>>>>> Plexes:         1 (8 configured)
>>>>>> Subdisks:       3 (16 configured)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> D vinumdrive0           State: up       Device /dev/da1s1e      Avail: 0/8683 MB (0%)
>>>>>> D vinumdrive1           State: up       Device /dev/da2s1e      Avail: 0/8683 MB (0%)
>>>>>> D vinumdrive2           State: up       Device /dev/da3s1e      Avail: 0/8683 MB (0%)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> V ftp_mirror            State: up       Plexes:       1 Size:         25 GB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P ftp_mirror.p0       S State: corrupt  Subdisks:     3 Size:         25 GB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> S ftp_mirror.p0.s0      State: up       PO:        0  B Size:       8683 MB
>>>>>> S ftp_mirror.p0.s1      State: up       PO:      256 kB Size:       8683 MB
>>>>>> S ftp_mirror.p0.s2      State: stale    PO:      512 kB Size:       8683 MB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # vinum start ftp_mirror.p0.s2
>>>>>> Can't start ftp_mirror.p0.s2: Device busy (16)
>>>>
>>>> Hmm.  That shouldn't happen.
>>>
>>> Well, that's comforting. :)
>>
>> Hmm.  Looking at this more carefully, yes, you can't do anything
>> there.  You just don't have the information to recover the subdisk.
>> I'm still debating what to do in this case; there's no way to bring it
>> back to a guaranteed consistent state here, but you *can* use the
>> 'setupstate' command to fake it.
>
> When I was having troubles with an iffy SCSI HDD a week or two or go,
> this is _exactly_ what would happen to me too, the "Device busy (16)"
> message. The only thing I found to fix it was a forced stop, and it
> seemed to always work. Sorry if it is not the idel way to go, but it
> is what worked fine for me.

Hmm.  I suppose this is worth investigating.  It's quite possible that
the message is incorrect and should say something like "device not
accessible".

  True story: About 17 years ago, I was working for Tandem, and we had
  sporadic reports of customers unable to revive disk mirrors.  The
  error reported was 12 (FEINUSE, file in use), which looks pretty
  much like the thing we have here.  The first report was from
  Helsinki, the second was from Taranto in the South of Italy, and in
  each case the customer engineer was able to hide the symptoms before
  I could find the problem.

  The third time it happened in Bern, the capital of Switzerland.  I
  told the CE to do nothing, and I would be there immediately.  I
  jumped in my car, was in Basel by 7 pm, and we spent an hour or so
  debugging the disk driver.

  The reason?  It checked a flag at the beginning of the disk, which
  specified what kind of format it had, and found nothing it
  recognized, so it decided it must belong to an ancient, no longer
  used disk controller, and refused to touch it ("it belongs to
  somebody else").  In fact, the check was incorrect: if the very
  first sector of the disk had been spared, it had a different flag,
  but it didn't check for this eventuality.  A hard format got rid of
  the spare, and people were able to revive again.

>>>> You have to 'stop' everything first. (I might be overkilling here,
>>>>> but better safe...)
>>>>
>>>> No, that's not safe.  That would mean taking down the volume.
>
> I my case it was a striped setup so once one subdisk was down, the
> whole plex was useless. There was no reason not to stop everything.

Yes, in fact this was the case here as well.

> [snip]
>>>> I haven't seen this before.  How about the information I ask for in
>>>> the web page?
>
> I have abundant /var/log/message info from my problems. Need more
> data?

Hold on to it, but don't send it to me yet.  I'm way away from home,
and I won't be able to look at it for at least a week.

>>> Note that I didn't get this message until after the drive had been
>>> booted for a while,
>>
>> Right, that's relatively typical.
>
> Yup, that's the general type of error I was getting. I finally
> narrowed it down to one of the drives after swapping SCSI cards,
> changing all of the external cabling, swapping terminators, and
> disassembling and reassembling the two shoeboxes the drives live
> in. SCSI can be a real pain sometimes.

SCSI is not a mystery.  There are serious technical reasons why it is
occasionally necessary to sacrifice a live goat to a SCSI chain.

Greg
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On 21/01 17:31, Dan Larsson wrote:

> When will it be released? Any date set yet?

I asked the folks at http://www.sendmail.{com,net,org} about the release
date for FreeBSD-4.0, and they just looked at me blankly.  Dunno why.

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On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Danny wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I want to deploy a test for Squid and soon a Radius solution at my
> network before I deploy the thing in real life.
> 
> Question: -
> 
> What are the hardware requirements for Squid with 50 hosts in the
> network?

Not much.  50 average hosts aren't going to place a big load on Squid.  
A 486 with 24 to 32MB RAM could handle that with a small cache.  Just
keep in mind the bigger the cache you want, the more RAM you need.  
I've got a 20GB cache here and Squid alone can take 130MB RAM.  You
wouldn't want to swap, either.


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Where do I find info on setting up a CVS server? I'm looking for something
a little easier to use than a man page. I need to set one up for work and
I've never done this before. I'm using 3.4-S.

Thanks,
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Crist J. Clark  wrote:

> >  > $ echo 3 | read NUM
> I could swear I have done this in the past.

Quite possible, if you were using AT&T ksh. Which happens to be
the only Bourne-style shell that executes the final command of a
pipeline in the parent shell.

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Hello,

I'm trying to get ipfilter (plus ipnat) to work on my 3.4-STABLE box
(fresh cvsup today, kernel options IPFILTER and IPFILTER_LOG). The
ipfilter comes up and gives me an "initialized, default = pass all,
logging = enabled" message. ipnat gets initialized and works fine.

However, as soon as I try to add ANY rule using ipf, I get a "File
exists" message. 

Example (trying to enter a simple rule from stdin):

root@winf# ipf -f -
pass in all
^D
ioctl(SIOCADDFR): File exists

The relevant portion of rc.network looks like this (taken from the
manual at www.free-x.ch):

if [ X"${ipfilter}" = X"YES" -a -f "${ipfilter_rules}" ]; then
         echo " configuring ipfilter "
         ipf -Fa -f ${ipfilter_rules} -E
else
         ipfilter="NO"
fi

This of course also gives me "ioctl(SIOCADDFR): File exists" messages.
What's up? Am I doing something wrong? I couldn't find anything on the
various ipfilter pages I searched.

Any help appreciated!

TIA.

Klaus


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Hi folks;

I am looking for a non-commercial solution to implement online store on my
FreeBSD + Apache web server. I would like to be able to do shopping car
and process online orders authenticating CCs via merchant account.

Is there a non-commercial e-commerce package that works best wiht FreeBSD?

What are the features/functionalities that I have to enable on my servers?

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I'm not sure if anyone has already answered you on this, but here it goes
anyways.

In your list of firewall rules, add this one through the use of the ipfw
command:

ipfw add  deny icmp from any to any


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> Hello all,
> I have a question about freebsd firewall, how can I set it to block (no
> reply) icmp. I'm using FreeBSD 3.4-20000112-STABLE.
> Thanks in advance.
> David.
>
>
>
>
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Grab a Perl manual and build something along the lines of,

% perl -i.bak -pe 's/word1/word2/g;'

Charles

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This message was sent from Geocrawler.com by "Juan Kuuse"

Be sure to reply to that address.

More a common UNIX question than a FreeBSD topic:

grep
to search a keyword multiple files

How do I search and replace one keyword for
another in multiple files, any suggestions?

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	I am trying to get a new machine srt up. I have loaded 3.4 STABLE, and
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	The mesage is something like:

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	Now I am pretty certain this must be a hardware prblem, but any idae
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	Its a new manboard with a AMD K6/2 200MHZ and a new *G drive. It has
	64MB (one segment) of memory.

	What should I suspect first?

-- 
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I have an IBM ThinkPad 701C (486) and I am trying to configure the kernal
to properly support sound.  The entries in my kernal are as follows:

controller snd0
device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1

I have set up the hardware in the BIOS for IRQ 5 and DMA 1.  On boot the
kernal says:

"Hmm... Could this be an ESS688 based card (rev 6)

NOTE! SB Pro support required with your soundcard!
snd0: 

Does this mean that I've properly configured the card?  I ask because when
I try playing a wav file using wavplay I get the error message:
i.e. I type waveplay filename.wav and get:

openDSP: No such file or directory

The system does list the wave file's stats: file name, sampling rate, etc.  

I found a page that suggests: the chip is a ESS688 which is the same as the
ESS1688 but without the hardware midi support.  So it seems that the chip
is detected properly, I'm just missing small details on creating
directories? I looked in the /docs area and through LINT but could find no
answer to why I get the openDSP error or more about /dev/mixer, etc.

Could someone please point me in the right direction?

Thanks,

Charles



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I'm thinking of setting up a FreeBSD mirror which mirrors both FTP
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> Grab a Perl manual and build something along the lines of,
> 
> % perl -i.bak -pe 's/word1/word2/g;'
> 
> Charles
> 

or use
find . | sed s/word1/word2/g


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> More a common UNIX question than a FreeBSD topic:
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> grep
> to search a keyword multiple files
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> How do I search and replace one keyword for
> another in multiple files, any suggestions?
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Klaus Brunner wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm trying to get ipfilter (plus ipnat) to work on my 3.4-STABLE box
> (fresh cvsup today, kernel options IPFILTER and IPFILTER_LOG). The
> ipfilter comes up and gives me an "initialized, default = pass all,
> logging = enabled" message. ipnat gets initialized and works fine.
> 
> However, as soon as I try to add ANY rule using ipf, I get a "File
> exists" message.
> 
> Example (trying to enter a simple rule from stdin):
> 
> root@winf# ipf -f -
> pass in all
> ^D
> ioctl(SIOCADDFR): File exists
> 

[snip]

> 
> This of course also gives me "ioctl(SIOCADDFR): File exists" messages.
> What's up? Am I doing something wrong? I couldn't find anything on the
> various ipfilter pages I searched.
> 
> Any help appreciated!

	I recently subscribed to the ipfilter list, someone on there
mentioned something similar.  I believe the issue was having the
kernel and userland stuff at different versions.  I'd recommend
rebuilding the ipfilter userland tools and see if you continue to have
this problem.  If it does continue then subscribe to the list,
questions seem to be addressed pretty quickly there.

-- 

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On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, George Cox wrote:

I think you mean sendmail 8.10.x which is currently available in beta and
works well, i've been using it for months.. 

/Torqumada

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I use SimpTerm.  It is a VT-100 emulation, though.  It also 
supports Chinese text:

http://www.iit.edu/~hujianq/simpterm.html

Bob Johnson                                      
Local Network Administrator
USDA - ARS - CMAVE
Gainesville, Florida
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>
>Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:55:55 -0600 (CST)
>From: Gene Harris 
>Subject: telnet client for win95/98
>
>I am needing to use a telnet client from Win98 to work on a
>FreeBSD box.  The standard telnet is not sufficently
>functional for some of the work I will be performing.
>
>Can anyone recommend a telnet client that is vt220 capable?
>
>Many Thanks,
>
>*==============================================*
>*Gene Harris      http://www.tetronsoftware.com*
>*FreeBSD Novice                                *
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Brett Taylor wrote:

>On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
>
>> Ever notice how when you are using the menus on netscape, sometimes
>> the choice under the pointer is highlighted, along with pop-up
>> sub-menus, and other times you have to click?  I can't duplicate it.  
>> It seems totally inconsistent..
>
>Yep - it's annoying.  I've found you can MAKE it highlight by moving to an
>entry that has a submenu.  I don't know why this works either, but it
>seems to work consistently for me.  YMMV!

So you mean click on any menu in bookmarks that has a submenu, and
from then on it will highlight them and open them automatically w/o
clicking?

-=> jm <=-

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Check the FAQ on this one.  I forget the command, but something like
'mount -t msdos /dev/da0s4 /mnt/zip' will do it.  The FAQ/handbook
also shows how to format one for a BSD filesystem.

-=> jm <=-

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I use CRT from vandyke http://www.vandyke.com   

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I use SimpTerm.  It is a VT-100 emulation, though.  It also 
supports Chinese text:

http://www.iit.edu/~hujianq/simpterm.html

Bob Johnson                                      
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>
>Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:55:55 -0600 (CST)
>From: Gene Harris 
>Subject: telnet client for win95/98
>
>I am needing to use a telnet client from Win98 to work on a
>FreeBSD box.  The standard telnet is not sufficently
>functional for some of the work I will be performing.
>
>Can anyone recommend a telnet client that is vt220 capable?
>
>Many Thanks,
>
>*==============================================*
>*Gene Harris      http://www.tetronsoftware.com*
>*FreeBSD Novice                                *
>*All ORBS.org SMTP connections are denied!     *
>*==============================================*
>
>
>
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Hi Jonathan,

On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

> So you mean click on any menu in bookmarks that has a submenu, and
> from then on it will highlight them and open them automatically w/o
> clicking?

Yep - I can sometimes make it work by scrolling around a bit more wo/
hitting a submenu.  Shutting the menu and trying again also often works.  

Brett
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here are my requirements(today).

1. diskless (none that are writable that is).
2. X windows.
3. Auto login to a captive shell running Netscape only.
4. Ethernet.
5. boot from and run off a cdrom.

What I have in mind is a kiosk that students can use but
can't abuse.  In addition the only application available to
them will be netscape which will start automatically when the
machine is booted, which can happen at any time.  If somehow the
user manages to exit netscape the machine should restart netscape
or reboot, of which rebooting is preferable.

If this is do-able using FreeBSD where can I look for some hints
on how I might proceed?

What haven't I thought of that I should?

hal





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hi to who ever reads this.

im a miserable windows user who look for a better alternatrive.
i have no serious knowledge of the os worls,programing, or any kind of
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my question is could i find in free bsd a new better mate for my pc?


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when i boot up i get this message, I have flags 0xa0ffa0ff set in my
kernel and an udma drive Maxtor 85250D6 and an Udma cable is connected.
nothing is on the second controller and a Udma cdrom is on the primary
controllers second channel.

The mainboard is a tyan 1598c2 with 164meg ram, amd 350, adaptec 1542cf
controller for the tape drive, and soundblaster 16 PNP for sound
matrox mystique pci for video.

i tried changing my bios to LBA but that made no difference.

where am i going wrong here...?


changing root device to wd0s1a
wd0s1a: reverting to PIO mode writing fsbn 196672 of 196672-196687 (wd0s1 bn 196
672; cn 12 tn 61 sn 49) (status 51 error 84)


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From owner-freebsd-questions  Fri Jan 21 12:17:48 2000
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How do I get FreeBsd to recognize a NE2000 compatible card?

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I'd have to say "no" to that question -
reason is,  BSD isn't exactly user-friendly and tech-support generally isn't
something where you can say
"click start, then the programs icon, then blah"... Unfortunately, other
than "Mac" I don't know of any easy-user-friendly
OS's - might try NT I guess, its pretty solid -
anyway

-Sam


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> hi to who ever reads this.
>
> im a miserable windows user who look for a better alternatrive.
> i have no serious knowledge of the os worls,programing, or any kind of
> advanced computer know how.
>
> my question is could i find in free bsd a new better mate for my pc?
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I seem to have missed something somewhere. 

I installed the GNOME package + Enlightenment from the 3.4-Release CD-ROM
distributed by Walnut Creek.

There are two things that don't seem to work.

1.	Unless I bring up desktop settings from panel I get the background
defined by Enlightenment. It seems to me that the GNOME settings should
override the basic settings provided by the window manager (even if I tell E
not to use a background). I do get any icons I have placed on the desktop,
just not the background. Am I expecting too much or did I miss something?
wmG looks like a good start but I would like a little more decoration (like
window control buttons that are more than little boxes) so I am using
Enlightenment which is overkill. I like the GNOME interface. This is mostly
just an inconvenience.

2.	The real issue is that if I try to start gmc or panel from my user
account I get a message that the application can not set the protection on
/root/.gnome_private to 0700 and then the application core dumps. I did a
chmod 0777 on .gnome_private to no effect and then did a pkg_delete and
removed all of the gnome files in root and then reinstalled everything.
Nothing seems to have had much of an effect. I didn't seen anything in what
little documentation I have that discusses this. Where did I go wrong?

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You might want to set your flags to b0ffb0ff.  This turns on
LBA in the driver.  The flag 0a only allows for 32 bit
transfers and probing for pci ide dma controllers.
Although, from the error message, it looks like you might
have a bad spot on your hard drive.

HTH

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On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, George Vagner wrote:

>  when i boot up i get this message, I have flags 0xa0ffa0ff set in my
>  kernel and an udma drive Maxtor 85250D6 and an Udma cable is connected.
>  nothing is on the second controller and a Udma cdrom is on the primary
>  controllers second channel.
>  
>  The mainboard is a tyan 1598c2 with 164meg ram, amd 350, adaptec 1542cf
>  controller for the tape drive, and soundblaster 16 PNP for sound
>  matrox mystique pci for video.
>  
>  i tried changing my bios to LBA but that made no difference.
>  
>  where am i going wrong here...?
>  
>  
>  changing root device to wd0s1a
>  wd0s1a: reverting to PIO mode writing fsbn 196672 of 196672-196687 (wd0s1 bn 196
>  672; cn 12 tn 61 sn 49) (status 51 error 84)
>  
>  
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sorry.
I ran 'crontab -r'.

That fixed it. I must have somehow done a 'crontab /etc/crontab' and not
known it. newbie mistake. My first time using crond.

Thanks to all for the help.

----- Original Message -----
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Greetings.

We have a Digi PC/Xem 16 PCI card that I'd like to use with 3.3-RELEASE ;
I've read thru quite a bit of the archives and found that people were having
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So my question is: will compiling with:

device          dgm0    at isa? port 0x104 iomem 0xd0000 iosiz ? tty

work correctly? 

I got this from /sys/i386/conf/LINT ; and would appreciate advice if
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Where can I read a license agreement, if there is one for FreeBSD?


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	What exactly is disk error 0x1? What can I do about it?

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Hey all,

    A simple question, but to an assumably not so simple answer. I have
little experience with tweaking sendmail; but I setup a box to host our
inner-office email a short while ago, and it's been running great. Now, we
are considering making the email server publically accessable.
    The incoming mail is not much of an issue at this time, what concerns
me, is the outgoing portion; I've never successfully setup sendmail to
function as an SMTP relay, (assuming thisis even what's required).
    Here's the scenario:

- FreeBSD Box running sendmail (not sure the version, but will be upgraded
to the version that comes with 3.4-RELEASE shortly)

- Multiple Windows-POP3 Clients, using the FreeBSD box to host POP3,/SMTP;
not connected to the internet except for a few dialup accounts

- A seperate email client using our ISP's SMTP server to send email over the
internet

What we want to do, is connect the FreeBSD box to the internet, (our ISP
will handle the DNS/MX record), as an email server. Allowing our office to
recieve/send email. I've gotten the recieve portion to work, but get the
error 'relaying not allowed' on the FreeBSD box when an internal windows'
box tries to send email.
    As I said above, I've not played around much with sendmail before, (yet
it doesn't mean I'm afraid to), hence I'd like to know the simplest/shortest
method by which to enable SMTP relaying, (our ISP is willing to allow use of
it's SMTP server if we need it).

Nathan Vidican
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Hi,

Is there some online?

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I'm having a bit of a problem with GTK/Imlib apps crashing.

When they crash it is always with an error msg similar to this:

Gdk-ERROR **: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)
  serial 11077 error_code 10 request_code 129 minor_code 1

I was just wondering if anyone has seen this before and if you know of a
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                                                    Friday, January 21, 2000
   No. FIPS will create a second (third, fourth, +1 of however many
partitions you already have definded) partition on your drive. You MUST
defrag your current fs BEFORE running FIPS or you will LOOSE the data at the
end of the partition.

   That's the beauty of FIPS. The ability to create another partiton on your
drive without having to use fdisk and delete existing partitions.

Thursday, January 20, 2000, 9:08:13 PM, John Michelini wrote:

JM> Correct me if I am wrong: I have a WIN95 disk with extended partition.
JM> Do I use FDISK to delete the extended partition and then use FIPS to
JM> repartition the drive (after defragging) for FreeBSD?


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I'm using bash when I'm logged in, but I really find it's memory
consumption a bit too much.  I changed to /bin/sh for a while, but I
could not find any reasonable way of making my prompt something like:

	hostname!user:/current/path$ ...

It seems that if I put in my .shrc the commands:

	PS1="`hostname`!$LOGNAME:`pwd`\$ "

the prompt is fine, but when I change directories, the prompt stays
unchanged, and the new `current' directory is not there.  This is
perfectly normal, since sh(1) expands `pwd` once when setting PS1.

Is my only option a shell function like?

	cd () { chdir "$@" ; export PS1='blah blah'; }

I tried looking in sh(1) manpage for anything like an escape sequence
to put in the value of PS1, but I couldn't find anything helpful...

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On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 11:33:13AM +0700, pirat sriyotha wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, you wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 01:25:35PM +0700, pirat sriyotha wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > occasionally, my small network does not work.  i have to 'shutdown -r now' to
> > > bring it back to work.
> > 
> > FreeBSD != Windoze
> 
> yes you are quite right and that's why i turn away from 'doz.
> 
> >
> > > the only clue is a message from ping which is
> > > 
> > > ping: sendto: No buffer space available
> > > 
> > > is there anyway to solve this kind of problem instead of shutdown ?
> > 
> > ifconfig de0 down up
> >
> 
> now, jan 21 2000 11:18 thailand mean time,  it happends again  and
> ifconfig down and up does not work.  anyway, i can connect to the
> Internet via ppp connection to my isp.

For a long-term solution you should consider raising your NMBCLUSTERS,
that is if it happens that netstat shows they are too few.  At my home
box, the output is:

	% netstat -m
	1/96 mbufs in use:
		1 mbufs allocated to data
	0/8/4096 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max)
	28 Kbytes allocated to network (0% in use)
	0 requests for memory denied
	0 requests for memory delayed
	0 calls to protocol drain routines

watch the current/peak/max relationship and see if you need to increase
the buffers.  If I'm not mistaken, you can change this without a kernel
recompile, with sysctl, by tweaking your kern.ipc.nmbclusters as in:

	# sysctl -w kern.ipc.nmbclusters=4096

After doing this on a running kernel, see if it still has the same
problem.  If not, you have two options.  Either add the above sysctl
command in your /etc/rc.local and save yourself a kernel recompile, or
recompile your kernel by setting the NMBCLUSTERS option properly.

Ciao.

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To whom it may concern:
  Your statement in the last letter to a writer is somewhat untrue.  There
are drivers for WinNT 4.0 on the CD that comes with the Cisco 605 Internal
ADSL modem/router.  These are for PPP or "Bridging" mode, which ever you
have.  US West is currently supplying Routers for PPP mode which is more
highly used.  However neither, US West or Cisco, are supplying drivers for
Windows 2000 RC2 or later! The only drivers they "say" will work are on the
CD and are for NT 4.0, which do NOT work.  Windows 2000 will not install
them, due unfamiliar signatures in the "oemsetup.inf" file, not because of
"driver signing".
  When they come out, if US West or Cisco Systems is going to supply them,
or make them available for download, who is going to support them is another
question!
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Matthew Jonkman wrote:

> How do I get FreeBsd to recognize a NE2000 compatible card?

use the ed(4) driver. The line to put in your kernel config would depend
on whether it's ISA or PCI - the manual page explains it for ISA, for
PCI you just need "device ed0 at pci?". Note that the PCI device will
show up as ed1, not ed0 (mine do, anyway, I think there are ways around
this but I don't see the point).

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Hi,

Anyone know of a quick way to take a PostScript file
that is 1-up and turn it into a 4-up PostScript file
that I can print and save a few trees?  I suppose I
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Not to start a war or anything, but i'm trying to decide on a fast
powerful editor.  I've been using joe, and i just started learning vi,
and i like it so far.  But there are new editors and new versions of
vi that seem to have a lot to offer.  I've narrowed it down to vi, an
enhanced version of vi (vile or vim?) uemacs, or joe.  ANy
thoughts?  I'd like to be able to cut and paste within the editor and
between xterms.  I really like the efficiency of vi so far, but i have
a long ways to go before i am proficient.

-=> jm <=-

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Even after using the "fixed" mfsroot floppy from:

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/3.4-RELEASE/

Attempting a custom install still causes SIGSEGV...

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Dear Sir (or Madam ??),

I add some more details to the solution outlined yesterday.
I will limit myself to the case in which X is invoked from within a
CUI shell; which, incidentally, is a most flexible choice.

To begin with: CUI=3D=3DCharacter User Interface.
A simple way to switch between e.g. Gnome and KDE is to define
the following files (" ~ " stand for your home directory):


1) ~/.xinitrc_gnome, containing just one line: "exec gnome-session" ;


1A) the script (executable) ~/g, so defined (in csh shell):

#!/bin/csh

# in order for the script to be executed from any
# directory:

cd ~

# the following "if" instruction checks if the last graphical
#environment was Gnome in order to avoid a useless write operation; if
#the last GUI was *not* Gnome, then the symlink .xinitrc is created
#and points at .xinitrc_gnome.


if (`ls -l .xinitrc | grep .xinitrc | awk '{print $11;}'` !=3D
.xinitrc_gnome) then # from "if" to "then" stays in *one* line
     ln -fs .xinitrc_gnome .xinitrc
endif


# the command actually starting X on screen 0, vt 9
# you need to turn at least *two* consoles off in /etc/ttys
# if you want to run *two* GUIs simultaneously.

startx -- :0 vt9

#please note: 0 is the "display".

###################### end of sample script #########################





Similarly:

2) ~/.xinitrc_kde, containing just one line: "exec startkde" ;



2A) the script (executable) ~/k, so defined (in csh shell):

#!/bin/csh

cd ~

if (`ls -l .xinitrc | grep .xinitrc | awk '{print $11;}'` !=3D
.xinitrc_kde) then # from "if" to "then" stays in *one* line
    ln -fs .xinitrc_kde .xinitrc
endif

startx -- :1 vt10

###################### end of sample script #########################






If you issue " ./k " in your home directory, you will start KDE;
" ./g " will start Gnome.

Remark.
You can start more GUIS simultaneoulsy provided that:
i) the displays are *different* ;
ii) the " vt " are *different*   ;


For example, I can run even four GUIs simultaneoulsy, as four
*different users*; each having its own locale (e.g. US English,
French, German, Italian); each having a different "display"
(:0 , :1, :2 ...) and correspondingly different Vts
(e.g. vt9 <-> :0, vt10 <-> :1, ...)

Please note: vtXX  <---> Function key XX.

vt 9, 10, 11, 12 can work in that /etc/ttys has consoles 8,9,a,b
turned off. Attention: the consoles in ttys start from "0".


You could also e.g. launch *another* GUI session (e.g. Gnome)
**within** KDE, provided the displays and Vts are appropriately
defined (as in our sample scripts)... Just start it in a terminal
window. Exiting the second GUI will take you back to the first.

Finally, you can switch (via CTRL-ALT-Function keys) between the
various GUIs, whether or not they belong to different users.




If you prefer tcsh, the two little scripts above simplify, e g. 2A)
becomes:

#!/usr/local/bin/tcsh
if (-L .xinitrc !=3D .xinitrc_kde) ln -fs .xinitrc_kde .xinitrc
startx -- :0 vt9

###################### end of sample script #########################

Of course, you must have installed tcsh for this script to work.




I hope this information will help.
The sole limit is now only your RAM ...


Yours faithfully
Salvo Bartolotta





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Jonathon McKitrick babbled:
> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:39:12 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Jonathon McKitrick 

> Not to start a war or anything, but i'm trying to decide on a fast
> powerful editor.  I've been using joe, and i just started learning vi,
> and i like it so far.  But there are new editors and new versions of
> vi that seem to have a lot to offer.  I've narrowed it down to vi, an
> enhanced version of vi (vile or vim?) uemacs, or joe.  ANy
> thoughts?  I'd like to be able to cut and paste within the editor and
> between xterms.  I really like the efficiency of vi so far, but i have
> a long ways to go before i am proficient.

Scan:

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>Even after using the "fixed" mfsroot floppy from:
>
>ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/3.4-RELEASE/
>
>Attempting a custom install still causes SIGSEGV...

I downloaded the new ISO image from
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/
last week and burned myself a new CD.  That solved the problem
for me.  Granted it took longer than making a floppy but I'm
expecting to install a few more machines with 3.4 before 4.0
comes out.

-Mitch


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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 1/21/00, 3:58:17 PM, Jonathon McKitrick

wrote regarding metaports:


> I see them all over, and i searched the archives, but where is a
> definition?

> -=3D> jm <=3D-

Dear Jonathon,

meta-ports means roughly "beyond" ports. From "meta" (from ancient
Greek, "proper" preposition constructed with gen. dat. & acc.) meaning
various things, e.g. with; across; near (in); towards; after, beyond.

"proper" is in relation to Greek verbs (that is, proper prepositions=20
can be used as
preverbs, or prefixes in compound verbs)

This "combining form" (in English) is productive enough ...

N.B. my_fake_antispam_domain =3D=3D=3D> neomedia.it to e-mail to me.

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Gene Harris wrote:
> 
> You might want to set your flags to b0ffb0ff.  This turns on
> LBA in the driver.

Pardon my ignorance, but where do I find information on the
flags?

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On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 02:54:37PM +0000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> >I used vipw and added the home directory at the end of the `toor' line.
> >
> >    toor:*:0:0:Bourne-again Superuser:/root:/bin/sh
> 
> So does toor need a home directory in order to have a different
> password from root?  At this point, when i su or login as toor, when
> i run passwd or chsh, it references root.

I have them both pointing at /root, as you can see from:

	% head -2 /etc/passwd
	root:*:0:0:Superuser:/root:/bin/csh
	toor:*:0:0:Bourne-again Superuser:/root:/usr/local/bin/bash

They can have the same home directory.  The files they will be using
will be the same, except for the shell startup scripts.  But each shell
keeps it's startup in a different script, so this is not a problem.

I keep my Bourne shell aliases in /root/.shrc -- the terminal setup and
other stuff needed for login and interactive shells in /root/.profile
-- the Bash specific prompt setup in ~/.bashrc (which calls .profile to
do the rest of the work), and nothing in /root/.bash_profile ;)

The /root/.cshrc and /root/.login files are the stock versions provided
with my release of FreeBSD (3.4-STABLE).

About the `zsh/su -m' question, I don't really know why this happens.

Ciao.

-- 
Giorgos Keramidas, < keramida @ ceid . upatras . gr >
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Salvo Bartolotta wrote:
> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> 
> On 1/21/00, 3:58:17 PM, Jonathon McKitrick
> 
> wrote regarding metaports:
> 
> > I see them all over, and i searched the archives, but where is a
> > definition?
> 
> > -=> jm <=-
> 
> Dear Jonathon,
> 
> meta-ports means roughly "beyond" ports. From "meta" (from ancient
> Greek, "proper" preposition constructed with gen. dat. & acc.) meaning
> various things, e.g. with; across; near (in); towards; after, beyond.
> 
> "proper" is in relation to Greek verbs (that is, proper prepositions
> can be used as
> preverbs, or prefixes in compound verbs)
> 
> This "combining form" (in English) is productive enough ...
> 
> N.B. my_fake_antispam_domain ===> neomedia.it to e-mail to me.
> 
> Best regards,
> Salvo
> 
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It's a good thing someone else sent you an answer too, eh?

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Greetings list:

When using 'make' in /usr/ports/foo/bar, the port is never found locally
and is always fetched from either a ftp or www server.  However, I
always have to punch a temporary whole in my firewall to allow the traffic
through.  Is there a better way, other than allowing all ftp and www
traffic from all sources in permanently?

Perhaps telling make to use a socks4 or socks5 proxy?  I didn't see a
command-line switch browsing man make, but it just seems to me that
Capt. Kirk and I can't be the only ones who don't want to lower our
shields just to use the transporter. ;-)

Both firewall and client are running 3.4-RELEASE, firewall is IPFW.

TIA,

-Sean Noonan
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, Alejandro Ramirez wrote:
> Hi Ian,
> 
> > /usr/compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig: warning: can't open
> /usr/ports/editors/staroffice5/work/tmp/sv001.tmp (No such file or
> directory), skipping
> 
> This is Ok.
> 
> > Bad system call - core dumped
> > *** Error code 140 (ignored)
> > ===>   Generating temporary packing list
> > install: /usr/local/Office51/bin: No such file or directory
> 
> I had this error once that Itried to install it with the linux_base-6.1
> port, then I had to remove this port and install the linux_base-5.2 port,
> and all went smoothly.

I can't find linux_base-5.2 on the FreeBSD server - do you know where I might
be able to get it?
Or would I be better off updating to 3.4-Release as Darren Wiebe suggests?

Thanks for your help,
--
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          Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, third edition




                         Last revision: 2 August 1999

The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page
or any other online documentation.   The  result  is  that  most  leading  edge
computer  books are out of date almost before they are printed.  Unfortunately,
``The Complete FreeBSD'', published by Walnut  Creek,  is  no  exception.   In-
evitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced.

The  following  is  a list of modifications which go beyond simple typos.  They
relate to the third edition, formatted  on  17  May  1999.   You'll  find  this
information  on  page  iv  (the  page  before  the  beginning  of  the Table of
Contents).  See the end of this document for instructions on how  to  find  the
errata for an older version.

You can get the current document in four forms:

o A     PostScript     version,     suitable     for     printing    out,    at
  ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.ps. See page 302 of the third  edition
  to  find  out  how  to print out PostScript.  If at all possible, please take
  this document: it's closest to the original text.

  Be careful selecting this file with a web browser: it is often impossible  to
  reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version.

o An enhanced ASCII version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.txt. When
  viewed with more or less,  this  version  will  show  some  highlighting  and
  underlining.  It's not suitable for direct viewing.

o An  ASCII-only  version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.ascii. This
  version is posted every week to the  FreeBSD-questions  mailing  list.   Only
  take  this version if you have real problems with PostScript: I can't be sure
  that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning.

o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-3.html.

All these modifications have been applied to the ongoing  source  text  of  the
book, so if you buy a later edition, they will be in it as well.  If you find a

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The Complete FreeBSD


bug or a suspected bug in the book, please contact me at 

Page ii
_______

The instructions on page ii (opposite the title  page)  tell  you  to  look  at
ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2  for  the  errata  list.   That's wrong.
Look at this list.

Pages 190 and 191
_________________

The description is not very clear about which text appears  when  booting  from
floppy  for  initial  install,  and  which  appears when booting normally.  The
procedure is very similar, but there are some differences.  Add  the  following
text after the heading Boot messages:

You'll  boot  your system in at least two different ways: initially you'll boot
from floppy or CD-ROM in order to install the system.  Later, after the  system
is  installed,  you'll boot from hard disk.  The procedure is almost identical,
so we'll look at both versions in the following examples.

Replace the text from the middle of page 191 with:

If you're booting from 1.44 MB floppies, you will then see:

Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter:

When you insert the MFS root floppy and press  Enter,  you  see  more  twirling
batons, then the UserConfig screen appears.

UserConfig: Modifying the boot configuration
____________________________________________

After  the  kernel has been loaded, the following screen will appear if you are
installing the system, or if you have requested it with the -c  option  to  the
boot loader:

Page 206
________

The  bottom  two lines on this page should be in bold constant font, indicating
that this is input for your /etc/rc.config file


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nfs_client_enable="YES"       # This host is an NFS client (or NO).
nfs_server_enable="YES"       # This host is an NFS server (or NO).


Page 265
________

The example on the second half of the page refers to the old SCSI driver.   The
scsi  program  is  no  longer  available  in  FreeBSD  3.x.   Instead,  use the
camcontrol program.  Replace the text with:.

Modern disks make provisions for recovering from such errors by  allocating  an
alternate sector for the data.  IDE drives do this automatically, but with SCSI
drives you have the option of enabling or disabling reallocation.   Usually  it
is  turned on when you buy them, but occasionally it is not.  When installing a
new disk, you should check that the parameters  ARRE  (Auto  Read  Reallocation
Enable)  and AWRE (Auto Write Reallocation Enable) are turned on.  For example,
to check and set the values for disk da1, you would enter:

# camcontrol modepage da1 -m 1 -e -P 3
# scsi -f /dev/rda1c -m 1 -e -P 3

This command will start up your favourite editor (either the one  specified  in
the EDITOR environment variable, or vi by default) with the following data:

AWRE (Auto Write Reallocation Enbld):  0
ARRE (Auto Read Reallocation Enbld):  1
TB (Transfer Block):  0
RC (Read Continuous):  0
EER (Enable Early Recovery):  0
PER (Post Error):  0
DTE (Disable Transfer on Error):  0
DCR (Disable Correction):  0
Read Retry Count:  16
Correction Span:  41
Head Offset Count:  0
Data Strobe Offset Count:  0
Write Retry Count:  16
Recovery Time Limit:  0

The  values  for  AWRE  and  ARRE should both be 1.  If they aren't, as in this
case, where AWRE is 0, change the data with the editor, save it, and exit.  The
camcontrol  program will write the data back to the disk and enable the option.


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Page 331
________

The description of the config refers to the SCSI drive sd0.  This  is  the  old
name; in FreeBSD version 3, SCSI drives are called da, so this reference should
be da0.

Thanks  to  Francisco  Reyes    for  pointing  out  this
problem.

Page 362
________

Replace the text at the top of the page with:

Next, change to the build directory and build the kernel:

# cd ../../compile/FREEBIE
# make depend
# make

   The  make  depend  is needed even if the directory has just been created:
   apart from creating dependency information, it also  creates  some  files
   needed for the build.
Thanks to Mark Ovens  for drawing this to my attention,
and   to   Francisco   Reyes      and   Bill    Fumerola
  for pointing out that it still wasn't fixed in the
third edition.

Page 409
________

The information on setting the default routers specified the wrong end  of  the
PPP  links  in  some  places.  It should always be the ``far'' end of the link.
Replace the second example on page 409, and the text following  it,  with  this
text:

defaultrouter="139.130.136.129"    # Set to default gateway (or NO).
static_routes=""              # Set to static route list (or leave empty).
gateway_enable="YES"               # Set to YES if this host will be a gateway.

This  is the normal way to set the default route on a point-to-point interface.
In fact, for PPP you don't  need  to  specify  the  default  address:  the  PPP
packages will set it for you when the link comes up.  This makes it possible to

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set default routes when you're forced to use dynamic IP  addresses,  where  you
don't know the address at this point.  We'll see how PPP does this on page 446.

In the first example on page 410, the sixth example on page 412 and the  second
example on page 413, replace the defaultrouter definition with:


defaultrouter="139.130.237.65"          # Set to default gateway (or NO).


Thanks to Andreas Longwitz  for pointing out this error.

Getting errata for older editions of the book
_____________________________________________

There have been a total of five different versions of ``The Complete FreeBSD''.
The most accurate way to distinguish them is by the format date,  which  you'll
find  at  the  bottom of page iv (the page before the beginning of the Table of
Contents) in all versions of the book.

1. The first was titled ``Installing and running FreeBSD'', and  was  formatted
  on 24 February 1996.  No errata list exists for this book.

2. For  the first edition (19 July 1996), get ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/er-
  rata-1.   This   same   file   is   also   available   via   the   web   link
  http://www.lemis.com/errata-1. I am no longer updating this errata list.

3. The  list  for  the  second  edition (16 December 1997) is available in four
  forms:

  o A    PostScript    version,    suitable    for     printing     out,     at
    ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ps.  See  page  222  of  the  second
    edition to find out how to print  out  PostScript.   If  at  all  possible,
    please take this document: it's closest to the original text.

    Be  careful  selecting this file with a web browser: it is often impossible
    to reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version.

  o An enhanced ASCII  version  at  ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.txt.
    When viewed with more or less, this version will show some highlighting and
    underlining.  It's not suitable for direct viewing.

  o An ASCII-only version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ascii. This
    version  is  posted every week to the FreeBSD-questions mailing list.  Only

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    take this version if you have real problems with  PostScript:  I  can't  be
    sure that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning.

  o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-2.html.

4. The  revised  second edition was formatted on 11 February 1999.  As the name
  suggests, it's not a complete new edition: in fact, only three  chapters  are
  different:

  o The chapter ``Setting up X11'' has been brought up to date.

  o Appendix  D (``Contents of the Ports Collection'') has been replaced by two
    appendixes, ``Errata and Addenda'' (the errata list up to date at the time)
    and  ``FreeBSD  3.0'',  which describes the differences between FreeBSD 2.x
    and FreeBSD 3.x.

  There is no separate errata list for this book.  Refer to the second  edition
  errata list.

5. The  current,  third edition, formatted on 17 May 1999.  This is the correct
  list for this edition.
























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How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions.
===================================================

Last update 3 September 1999

This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list.  If
you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender
thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your
message:

- You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate.
- You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read.
- You asked more than one unrelated question in one message.
- You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone.
- You sent out the same message more than once.
- You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions.

If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you
will get more than one copy of this message from different people.
Read on, and your next message will be more successful.

This document is also available on the web at
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html.

=====================================================================

Contents:

I:    Introduction
II:   How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions
III:  Should I ask -questions or -hackers?
IV:   How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions
V:    How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions

I: Introduction
===============

This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from
FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the
questions (the "hackers").

       Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking
       into other people's computers.  The correct term for the latter
       activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out
       yet.  The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking
       security, and have nothing to do with it.

In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the
different viewpoints of the two groups.  The newcomers accused the
hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers
accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English,
and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter.  Of
course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the
most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration.

In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration
and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions.  In the
following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that,
we'll look at how to answer one.

II:  How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions
==============================================

When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message
from Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG.  In this message, amongst other things, it
told you how to unsubscribe.  Here's a typical message:

  Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list!

  If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list,
  you can send mail to "Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG" with the following command
  in the body of your email message:

      unsubscribe freebsd-questions Greg Lehey 

  Here's the general information for the list you've
  subscribed to, in case you don't already have it:

  FREEBSD-QUESTIONS               User questions
  This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD.  You should not
  send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the
  question to be pretty technical.

Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you
don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one
which you specified when you subscribed.

If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on
the list, this may mean one of two things:

  1.  You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed.  That's where
      keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy.  For
      example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as
      grog@lemis.de.  Since then, I have changed it to
      grog@lemis.com.  If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from
      the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with
      which I joined.

  2.  You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to
      FreeBSD-questions.  If that's the case, you'll have to figure out
      which one it is and get your name taken off that one.  If you're
      not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the
      messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a
      clue there.

If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going
on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things
out for you.  Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't
help you.

III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers?
===================================================

Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD,
FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers.  In addition, the
FreeBSD-newbies list caters specifically for people who are new to
FreeBSD and may be having trouble getting used to the environment.  In
some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask.  The
following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however:

     If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this
     isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ).  There's a list of these
     questions at http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ.html, and also on
     your own system (once you've installed it) at
     /usr/share/doc/FAQ/FAQ.html.  Check there, and if you don't find
     an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions.  Examples might be questions
     about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility.

     If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure,
     or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to
     FreeBSD-questions.

     If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that
     it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code
     where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the
     message to FreeBSD-hackers.  You should also enter a problem
     report with the send-pr utility.

     If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can
     make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the
     message to FreeBSD-hackers.

     If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as
     implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send
     the message to FreeBSD-hackers.

     If you're new to FreeBSD, and the message is about your own
     relationship to FreeBSD, send the message to FreeBSD-newbies.

There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for
example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet
Service Providers) who run FreeBSD.  If you happen to be an ISP, this
doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to
FreeBSD-isp.  The criteria above still apply, and it's in your
interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good
results that way.

IV:  How to submit a question
=============================

When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the
following points:

  1.  Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question.
      They do it of their own free will.  You can influence this free
      will positively by submitting a well-formulated question
      supplying as much relevant information as possible.  You can
      influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete,
      illegible, or rude question.  It's perfectly possible to send a
      message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you
      follow these rules.  It's much more possible to not get an
      answer if you don't.  In the rest of this document, we'll look
      at how to get the most out of your question to
      FreeBSD-questions.

  2.  Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message:
      they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests
      them.  Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject.
      ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough.  If you provide
      no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it.  If your
      subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may
      not read it.

  3.  Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T
      SHOUT!!!!!.  We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak
      English as their first language, and we try to make allowances
      for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message
      written full of typos or without any line breaks.  A lot of
      badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly
      configured mailers.  The following mailers are known to send out
      badly formatted messages without you finding out about them:

      Eudora
      exmh
      Microsoft Exchange
      Microsoft Internet Mail
      Microsoft Outlook
      Netscape

      As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent
      offenders.  If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer.  If you must
      use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set
      up correctly.  Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers
      which don't get on very well with MIME.

      For further information on this subject, check out
      http://www.lemis.com/email.html.

  4.  Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly.  This may
      seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but
      many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred
      messages a day.  They frequently sort the incoming messages by
      subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the
      first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to
      look.

  5.  Don't include unrelated questions in the same message.  Firstly,
      a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's
      more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the
      questions to read the message.

  6.  Specify as much information as possible.  This is a difficult
      area, and we need to expand on what information you need to
      submit, but here's a start:

         If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error
         messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No
         route to host'''.

         If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say
         (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free
         vnode isn't'''.

         If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us
         what hardware you have.  In particular, it's important to
         know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in
         your machine.

         If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the
         configuration.  Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of
         authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic
         IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file?

  7.  If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see
      your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend
      the message.  Wait at least 24 hours.  The FreeBSD mailer
      offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the
      world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to
      get through.  And once it gets through, the one person who might
      know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part
      of the world.

  8.  If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there
      could be other reasons.  For example, the problem is so
      complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does
      know the answer was offline.  If you don't get an answer after,
      say, a week, it might help to re-send the message.  If you don't
      get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably
      not going to get one from this forum.  Resending the same
      message again and again will only make you unpopular.

To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following
question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-).  You choose which of
these two questions you would be more prepared to answer:


Message 1:
Subject: (none)

I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Message 2:
Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD

I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm
having a lot of difficulty installing it.  I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16
MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball
disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive.  The installation works just
fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing
Operating System".

----------------------------------------------------------------------

V: How to follow up to a question
=================================

Often you will want to send in additional information to a question
you have already sent.  The best way to do this is to reply to your
original message.  This has three advantages:

1.  You include the original message text, so people will know what
    you're talking about.  Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out,
    though.

2.  The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to
    put one in, didn't you?).  Many mailers will sort messages by
    subject.  This helps group messages together.

3.  The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the
    previous message.  Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages,
    showing the exact relationships between the messages.

VI: How to answer a question
============================

Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider:

1.  A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to
    answering questions.  Read them.

2.  Has somebody already answered the question?  The easiest way to
    check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then
    (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all
    together.

    If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean
    that you shouldn't send another answer.  But it makes sense to
    read all the other answers first.

3.  Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been
    said?  In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much,
    although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a
    problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or
    whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software.  If
    you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further
    relevant information.

4.  Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the
    person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express
    himself very well.  Even with the best understanding of the system,
    it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question.  This
    doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question
    more frustrated or confused than ever.  If nobody else answers, and
    you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more
    information.

5.  Are you sure your answer is correct?  If not, wait a day or so.
    If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply
    and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since
    nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI
    CD-ROM with a frog?".

6.  Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender
    and to FreeBSD-questions.  Many people on the FreeBSD-questions
    are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to
    by others.  If you take a message which is of general interest off
    the list, you're depriving these people of their information.  Be
    careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with
    hundreds of CCs.  If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc:
    lines appropriately.

7.  Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the
    minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for
    somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what
    you're talking about.

8.  Use some technique to identify which text came from the original
    message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending
    ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space
    after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the
    original text both make the result more readable.

9.  Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it
    replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where
    each reply comes before the text to which it replies.

10.  Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a
     text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it
     automatically, you should do it manually.

11.  If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too
     long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it.  In the case of
     an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the
     subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was:
     HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread
     will have less difficulty following it.

     In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you
     did it, but try not to be rude.  If you find you can't answer
     without being rude, don't answer.

     If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format,
     just reply to the submitter, not to the list.  You can just send
     him this message in reply, if you like.


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On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, Alejandro Ramirez wrote:
> Hi Ian,
> 
> > /usr/compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig: warning: can't open
> /usr/ports/editors/staroffice5/work/tmp/sv001.tmp (No such file or
> directory), skipping
> 
> This is Ok.
> 
> > Bad system call - core dumped
> > *** Error code 140 (ignored)
> > ===>   Generating temporary packing list
> > install: /usr/local/Office51/bin: No such file or directory
> 
> I had this error once that Itried to install it with the linux_base-6.1
> port, then I had to remove this port and install the linux_base-5.2 port,
> and all went smoothly.

I can't find linux_base-5.2 on the FreeBSD server - do you know where I might
be able to get it?
Or would I be better off updating to 3.4-Release as Darren Wiebe suggests?

Thanks for your help,
--
Ian Moore


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          Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition




                          Last revision: 21 June 1999

The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page
or any other online documentation.   The  result  is  that  most  leading  edge
computer  books are out of date almost before they are printed.  Unfortunately,
``The Complete FreeBSD'', published by Walnut  Creek,  is  no  exception.   In-
evitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced.

The  following  is  a list of modifications which go beyond simple typos.  They
relate to the second edition, formatted on 16 December 1997.  If you have  this
book,  please  check this list.  If you have the first edition of 19 July 1996,
please check ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-1. This  same  file  is  also
available via the web link http://www.lemis.com/.

This list is available in four forms:

o A     PostScript     version,     suitable     for     printing    out,    at
  ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ps. See page 222 of the book  to  find
  out  how  to  print  out  PostScript.   If  at all possible, please take this
  document: it's closest to the original text.

  Be careful selecting this file with a web browser: it is often impossible  to
  reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version.

o An enhanced ASCII version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.txt. When
  viewed with more or less,  this  version  will  show  some  highlighting  and
  underlining.  It's not suitable for direct viewing.

o An  ASCII-only  version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ascii. This
  version is posted every week to the  FreeBSD-questions  mailing  list.   Only
  take  this version if you have real problems with PostScript: I can't be sure
  that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning.

o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-2.html.

All these modifications have been applied to the ongoing  source  text  of  the
book, so if you buy a later edition, they will be in it as well.  If you find a

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The Complete FreeBSD


bug or a suspected bug in the book, please contact me at 

General changes
_______________


o In a number of places, I suggest the use of the  following  command  to  find
  process information:

  $ ps aux | grep foo

  Unfortunately,  ps  is sensitive to the column width of the terminal emulator
  upon which it is working.  This command usually works fine  on  a  relatively
  wide  xterm,  but if you're running on an 80-column terminal, it may truncate
  exactly the information you're looking for, so you end  up  with  no  output.
  You can fix that with the w option:

  $ ps waux | grep foo

  Thanks to Sue Blake  for this information


Location of the sample files
____________________________

On  the  2.2.5 CD-ROM only, the location of the sample files does not match the
specifications in the book (/book on the first CD-ROM).  The 2.2.5 CD-ROM  came
out before the book, and it contains the files on the third (repository) CD-ROM
as a single gzipped tar file  /xperimnt/cfbsd/cfbsd.tar.gz.   It  contains  the
following files:

drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh           0 Oct 17 13:01 1997 cfbsd/
drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh           0 Oct 17 13:01 1997 cfbsd/mutt/
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh         352 Oct 15 15:21 1997 cfbsd/mutt/.mail_aliases
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh        9394 Oct 15 15:22 1997 cfbsd/mutt/.muttrc
drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh           0 Oct 17 14:02 1997 cfbsd/scripts/
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh       18281 Oct 16 16:52 1997 cfbsd/scripts/.fvwm2rc
-rwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh        1392 Oct 17 12:54 1997 cfbsd/scripts/install-desktop
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh         296 Oct 17 12:35 1997 cfbsd/scripts/.xinitrc
-rwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh         622 Oct 17 13:51 1997 cfbsd/scripts/install-rcfiles
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh        1133 Oct 17 13:00 1997 cfbsd/scripts/Uutry
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh        1028 Oct 17 14:02 1997 cfbsd/scripts/README
drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh           0 Oct 18 19:32 1997 cfbsd/docs/
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh      199111 Oct 16 14:29 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages.txt

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-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh      189333 Oct 16 14:28 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages-by-category.txt
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh      188108 Oct 16 14:29 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages.ps
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh      226439 Oct 16 14:27 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages-by-category.ps
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh         788 Oct 16 15:01 1997 cfbsd/README
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh         248 Oct 17 11:52 1997 cfbsd/errata

To  extract  one  of these files, say cfbsd/docs/packages.txt, and assuming you
have the CD-ROM mounted as /cdrom, enter:

# cd /usr/share/doc
# tar xvzf /cdrom/xperimnt/cfbsd/cfbsd.tar.gz cfbsd/docs/packages.txt

See page 209 for more information on using tar.

These files are an early version of what is described in the book.  I'll put up
some updated versions on ftp://ftp.lemis.com/ in the near future.

Thanks  to Frank McCormick  for drawing this to my attention.

Chapter 8: Setting up X11
_________________________

For FreeBSD 2.2.7, this chapter has changed sufficiently to make it impractical
to   distribute   errata.    You  can  download  the  PostScript  version  from
ftp://www.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/xsetup.ps,   or   the    ASCII    version    from
ftp://www.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/xsetup.txt.  No HTML version is available.

Page xxxiv
__________

Before the discussion of the shell prompts in the middle of the page, add:

In this book, I recommend the use of the Bourne shell or one of its descendents
(sh, bash, pdksh, ksh or zsh).  With the exception of sh, they are all  in  the
Ports Collection.  I personally use the bash shell.

This  is a personal preference, and a recommendation, but it's not the standard
shell.  The standard BSD shell is the  C  shell  (csh),  which  has  a  fuller-
featured  descendent  tcsh.   In particular, the standard installation sets the
root user up with a csh.  See page 152 (in this errata) for details of  how  to
change the shell.




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General changes


Page 11: Reading the handbook
_____________________________

The  CD-ROM  now includes Netscape.  Replace the last paragraph on the page and
the example on the following page with:

If you're running X, you can use a browser like netscape to read the  handbook.
If you don't have X running yet, use lynx.  Both of these programs are included
on the CD-ROM.  To install them, enter:

# pkg_add /cdrom/packages/All/netscape-communicator-4.5.tgz
or
# pkg_add /cdrom/packages/All/lynx-2.8.1.1.tgz

The numbers after the name (4.5 and 2.8.1.1) may change  after  this  book  has
been  printed.   Use  ls  to  list the names if you can't find these particular
versions.

Note that lynx is not a complete substitute for netscape:  since  it  is  text-
only,  it  is  not  capable  of  displaying  the  large  majority  of web pages
correctly.  It will suffice for reading most of the handbook, however.

Thanks to Stuart Henderson  and  for drawing this to my attention.

Page 12: Printing the handbook
______________________________

The instructions for formatting the handbook are obsolete.  Replace the section
starting Alternatively, you can print out the handbook with the following text:

Alternatively,  you  can  print  out  the  handbook.   You  need  to  have  the
documentation sources (/usr/doc) installed on your system.  You can  find  them
on the second CD-ROM in the directory of the same name.  To install them, first
mount your CD-ROM (see page 175).  Then enter:

$ cd /cdrom/usr/doc/handbook
$ mkdir -p /usr/doc/handbook            you may need to be root for this operation
$ cp -pr * /usr/doc/handbook

You have a choice of formats for the output:

o ascii will give you plain 7-bit ASCII  output,  suitable  for  reading  on  a
  character-mode terminal.

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o html will give you HTML output, suitable for browsing with a web browser.

o latex  will  give  you LATEX format, suitable for further processing with TEX
  and LATEX.

o ps will give you PostScript output, probably the best choice for printing.

o roff will give you output in troff source.  You can process this output  with
  nroff  or  troff,  but  it's  currently not very polished.  LATEX output is a
  better choice if you want to process it further.

Once you have decided your format,  use  make  to  create  the  document.   For
example, if you decide on PostScript format, you would enter:

$ make FORMATS=ps

This  creates  a  file  handbook.ps  which  you  can then print to a PostScript
printer or with the aid of ghostscript (see page 222).

Thanks to Bob Beer  for drawing this to my attention.

Page 45:  Preparing floppies for installation
_____________________________________________

Replace the paragraph below the list of file names (in the middle of the  page)
with:

The  floppy  set should contain the file bin.inf and the ones whose names start
with bin. followed by two letters.  These other  files  are  all  240640  bytes
long,  except  for the final one which is usually shorter.  Use the MS-DOS COPY
program to copy as many files as will fit onto each disk (5 or 6) until  you've
got  all  the  distributions  you  want  packed  up in this fashion.  Copy each
distribution into subdirectory corresponding to  the  base  name--for  example,
copy the bin distribution to the files A:\BIN\BIN.INF, A:\BIN\BIN.AA and so on.

Page 80 and 81
______________

In a couple of examples, the FreeBSD partition is shown as type 164.  It should
be  165.   Thanks  to an unknown contributer for this correction (sorry, I lost
your name).




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Page 88: setting up for dumping
_______________________________

The example mentions a variable savecore in /etc/rc.conf.  This variable is  no
longer used--it's enough to set the variable dumpdev.

Page 92
_______

At the end of the section How to install a package add the text:

Alternatively,  you  can  install  packages  from  the  /stand/sysinstall Final
Configuration Menu.  We saw this menu on page in figure 4-14 on page 71.   When
you  start  sysinstall from the command line, you get to this menu by selecting
Index, and then selecting Configure.


Page 93
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Before the heading Install ports from the first CD-ROM add:


Install ports when installing the system
________________________________________

The file ports/ports.tgz on the first CD-ROM is a tar  archive  containing  all
the  ports.   You  can install it with the base system if you select the Custom
distribution and include the ports collection.  If you didn't install  them  at
the  time,  use  the  following method to install them all (about 40 MB).  Make
sure your CD-ROM is mounted (in this example on /cdrom), and enter:

Page 96
_______

Replace the example at the top of the page with:

Instead, do:

# cd /cd4/ports/distfiles
# mkdir -p /usr/ports/distfiles              make sure you have a distfiles directory
# for i in *; do
>   ln -s /cd4/ports/distfiles/$i /usr/ports/distfiles/$i
> done

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If you're using csh or tcsh, enter:

# cd /cd4/ports/distfiles
# mkdir -p /usr/ports/distfiles              make sure you have a distfiles directory
# foreach i (*)
?   ln -s /cd4/ports/distfiles/$i /usr/ports/distfiles/$i
? end

Thanks to Christopher Raven   and  Francois  Jacques   for drawing this to my attention.

Page 104
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The examples at the bottom of the page and the top of the next page specify the
wrong directory (/usr).  It should be /usr/X11R6.  Replace the examples with:

For a full install, choose /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331*.tgz.  If  you  are  using
sh, enter:

# cd /usr/X11R6
# for i in /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331*.tgz; do
#   tar xzf $i
# done

If you are using csh, enter:

% cd /usr/X11R6
% foreach i (/cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331*.tgz)
%   tar xzf $i
% end

For a minimal installation, first choose a server archive corresponding to your
VGA board.  If table 8-2 on page 103 doesn't give you enough information, check
the  server  man  pages,  starting  on  page 1545, which list the VGA chip sets
supported by each server.  For example, if you have an ET4000 based  board  you
will use the XF86_SVGA server.  In this case you would enter:

# cd /usr/X11R6
# tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331SVGA.tgz  substitute your server name here
# for i in bin fnts lib xicf; do
#   tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331$i.tgz
# done


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If you are using csh, enter:

% cd /usr/X11R6
% tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331SVGA.tgz  substitute your server name here
% foreach i (bin fnts lib xicf)
%   tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/$i
% end


Thanks  to Manuel Enrique Garcia Cuesta  for pointing out
this one.

Page 128
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Replace the complete text below the example with the following:

These values are defaults, and many  are  either  incorrect  for  FreeBSD  (for
example the device name /dev/com1) or do not apply at all (for example Xqueue).
If you are configuring manually, select one Protocol and one Device entry  from
the  following  selection.   If  you must use a two-button mouse, uncomment the
keyword Emulate3Buttons--in this mode, pressing both mouse  buttons  simultane-
ously  within Emulate3Timeout milliseconds causes the server to report a middle
button press.

Section "Pointer"

    Protocol   "Microsoft"         for Microsoft protocol mice
    Protocol    "MouseMan"         for Logitech mice
    Protocol    "PS/2"             for a PS/2 mouse
    Protocol    "Busmouse"         for a bus mouse

    Device     "/dev/ttyd0"        for a mouse on the first serial port
    Device     "/dev/ttyd1"        for a mouse on the second serial port
    Device     "/dev/ttyd2"        for a mouse on the third serial port
    Device     "/dev/ttyd3"        for a mouse on the fourth serial port
    Device     "/dev/psm0"         for a PS/2 mouse
    Device     "/dev/mse0"         for a bus mouse

    Emulate3Buttons           only for a two-button mouse

EndSection

You'll notice that the protocol name does not always match  the  manufacturer's

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name.   In  particular,  the  Logitech  protocol only applies to older Logitech
mice.  The newer ones use either the MouseMan or Microsoft  protocols.   Nearly
all modern serial mice run one of these two protocols, and most run both.

If  you are using a bus mouse or a PS/2 mouse, make sure that the device driver
is included in the kernel.  The GENERIC kernel contains drivers for both  mice,
but the PS/2 driver is disabled.  Use UserConfig (see page 50) to enable it.

Page 140
________

Just before the paragraph The super user add the following paragraph:

If  you  do  manage to lose the root password, all may not be lost.  Reboot the
machine to single user mode (see page 157), and enter:

# mount -u /             mount root file system read/write
# mount /usr             mount /usr file system (if separate)
# passwd root            change the password for root
Enter new password:
Enter password again:
# ^D                enter ctrl-D to continue with startup

If you have a separate /usr file system (the normal case), you need to mount it
as  well, since the passwd program is in the directory /usr/bin.  Note that you
should explicitly state the name root: in single user mode, the system  doesn't
have the concept of user IDs.

Page 148
________

Replace the text at the top of the page with:

Modern  shells  supply  command  line editing which resembles the editors vi or
Emacs.  In bash, sh, ksh, and zsh you can make the choice by entering

Page 152
________

After figure 10-8, add the following text:

It  would  be  tedious  for  every  user  to  put  settings  in  their  private
initialization  files, so the shells also read a system-wide default file.  For
the Bourne shell family, it is /etc/profile, while the C shell family has three

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files:  /etc/csh.login  to  be executed on login, /etc/csh.cshrc to be executed
when a new shell is started  after  you  log  in,  and  /etc/csh.logout  to  be
executed  when  you  stop  a  shell.   The  start files are executed before the
corresponding individual files.

In  addition,  login  classes  (page  141)  offer  another  method  of  setting
environment variables at a global level.

Changing your shell
___________________

The  FreeBSD  installation  gives root a C shell, csh.  This is the traditional
Berkeley shell, but it has a number of disadvantages: command line  editing  is
very primitive, and the script language is significantly different from that of
the Bourne shell, which is the de facto standard for shell scripts: if you stay
with  the  C  shell,  you  may  still need to understand the Bourne shell.  The
latest version of the Bourne shell sh also includes some command line  editing.
See page 148 for details of how to enable it.

You  can  get  better  command line editing with tcsh, in the Ports Collection.
You can get both better command line editing and Bourne shell syntax with bash,
also in the Ports Collection.

If  you  have root access, you can use vipw to change your shell, but there's a
more general way: use chsh (Change Shell).  Simply run the program.  It  starts
your  favourite editor (as defined by the EDITOR environment variable).  Here's
an example before:

#Changing user database information for velte.
Shell: /bin/csh
Full Name: Jack Velte
Location:
Office Phone:
Home Phone:

You can change anything after the colons.  For example, you might  change  this
to:

#Changing user database information for velte.
Shell: /usr/local/bin/bash
Full Name: Jack Velte
Location: On the road
Office Phone: +1-408-555-1999
Home Phone:

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chsh  checks and updates the password files when you save the modifications and
exit the editor.  The next time you log in, you get the new shell.  chsh  tries
to  ensure you don't make any mistakes--for example, it won't let you enter the
name of a shell which isn't mentioned in the file /etc/shells--but it's a  very
good  idea  to  check  the shell before logging out.  You can try this with su,
which you normally use to become super user:

bumble# su velte
Password:
su-2.00$                 note the new prompt

There are a couple of problems in using tcsh or bash as a root shell:

o The shell for root must be on the root file system,  otherwise  it  will  not
  work  in single user mode.  Unfortunately, most ports of shells put the shell
  in the directory /usr/local/bin, which is  almost  never  on  the  root  file
  system.

o Most  shells  are  dynamically linked: they rely on library routines in files
  such as /usr/lib/libc.a.  These files are not available in single user  mode,
  so  the shells won't work.  You can solve this problem by creating statically
  linked versions of the shell, but this requires programming experience beyond
  the scope of this book.

If you can get hold of a statically linked version, perform the following steps
to install it:

o Copy the shell to /bin, for example:

  # cp /usr/local/bin/bash /bin

o Add the name of the shell to /etc/shells,  in this example the line  in  bold
  print:

  # List of acceptable shells for chpass(1).
  # Ftpd will not allow users to connect who are not using
  # one of these shells.
  /bin/sh
  /bin/csh
  /bin/bash


You can then change the shell for root as described above.


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Thanks  to  Lars Koller   for drawing this to my
attention.

Page 160
________

Replace the text at the fourth bullet with the augmented text:

The second-level boot locates the kernel, by default the file  /kernel  on  the
root file system, and loads it into memory.  It prints the Boot: prompt at this
point so that you can influence this choice--see the man page on page  579  for
more details of what you can enter at this prompt.

Page 169
________

Replace the last paragraph on the page with:

The standard solution for these problems is to relocate the /tmp file system to
a different directory, say /usr/tmp, and create a symbolic link  from  /usr/tmp
to /tmp--see Chapter 4, Installing FreeBSD, page 72, for more details.

Thanks to Charlie Sorsby  for drawing this to my attention.

Page 176
________

Add the following paragraph

Unmounting file systems

When you mount a file system, the system assumes it is going to stay there, and
in the interests of efficiency it delays writing data back to the file  system.
This  is the same effect we discussed on page 158.  As a result, if you want to
stop using a file system, you need to tell the system about it.   You  do  this
with  the umount command.  Note the spelling--there's no n in the command name.

You need to do this even with read-only  media  such  as  CD-ROMs:  the  system
assumes  it  can  access the data from a mounted file system, and it gets quite
unhappy if it can't.  Where possible, it locks  removable  media  so  that  you
can't remove them from the device until you unmount them.

Using  umount  is  straightforward:  just  tell  it what to unmount, either the
device name or the directory name.  For  example,  to  unmount  the  CD-ROM  we

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mounted in the example above, you could enter one of these commands:

# umount /dev/cd1a
# umount /cd1

Before  unmounting  a  file  system, umount checks that nobody is using it.  If
somebody is using it, it will refuse to unmount it with a message like  umount:
/cd1:  Device  busy.   This  message often occurs because you have changed your
directory to a directory on the file system you want to  remove.   For  example
(which also shows the usefulness of having directory names in the prompt):

=== root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) /cd1 16 -> umount /cd1
umount: /cd1: Device busy
=== root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) /cd1 17 -> cd
=== root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) ~ 18 -> umount /cd1
=== root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) ~ 19 ->

Thanks to Ken Deboy  for pointing out this
omission.

Page 180
________

The example in the middle of the page should read:

For example, to generate a second set of 32 pseudo-terminals, enter:

# cd /dev
# ./MAKEDEV pty1

You can generate up to 256 pseudo-terminals.   They  are  named  ttyp0  through
ttypv,  ttyq0  through  ttyqv,  ttyr0 through ttyrv, ttys0 through ttysv, ttyP0
through ttyPv, ttyQ0 through ttyQv,  ttyR0  through  ttyRv  and  ttyS0  through
ttySv.   To  create  each  set  of 32 terminals, use the number of the set: the
first set is pty0, and the eighth set is pty7.  Note that some processes,  such
as xterm, only look at ttyp0 through ttysv.

Thanks to Karl Wagner  for pointing out this error.


Page 197, first line
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The text of the first full sentence reads:

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The first name, up the the  symbol, is the label.

In fact, it should read:

The first name, up to the | symbol, is the label.


Page 208, middle of page
________________________

The  example  shows  the  file  name /dev/rst0 when using the Bourne shell, and
/dev/nrst0  when  using  C  shell  and  friends.   This  is  inconsistent;  use
/dev/nrst0 with any shell if you want a non-rewinding tape, or /dev/rst0 if you
want a rewinding tape.

Thanks to Norman C Rice  for pointing out this one.

Page 219
________

Before the section Testing the spooler add the following section:

As we saw above, the line  printer  daemon  lpd  is  responsible  for  printing
spooled  jobs.   By default it isn't started at boot time.  If you're root, you
can start it by name:

# lpd

Normally, however, you will want it to be started automatically when the system
starts up.  You do this by setting the variable lpd_enable in /etc/rc.conf:

lpd_enable="YES"              # Run the line printer daemon

See page  for more details of /etc/rc.conf.

Another line in /etc/rc.conf refers to the line printer daemon:

lpd_flags=""        # Flags to lpd (if enabled).

You  don't  normally  need  to  change this line.  See the man page for lpd for
details of the flags.

Thanks to Tommy  G.  James    for  bringing  this  to  my
attention.

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Page 231
________

Replace the first line of the example with:

xhost presto bumble gw

The original version allowed anybody on the Internet to access your system.

Thanks  to  Jerry  Dunham    for  drawing  this  one  to  my
attention.


Page 237
________

In the section Installing the sample desktop, replace the first paragraph with:

You'll  find  all  the  files  described  in  this  chapter on the first CD-ROM
(Installation CD-ROM) in the directory /book.  Remember that you must mount the
CD-ROM  before you can access the files--see page 175 for further details.  The
individual scripts are in the directory /book/scripts, but you'll probably find
it easier to install them with the script install-desktop:

Thanks to Chris Kaiser  for drawing this to my attention.

Page 242
________

The  instructions  for extracting the source files from CD-ROM in the middle of
page 242 are incorrect.  You'll find the kernel sources on the first CD-ROM  in
the directory /src.  Replace the example with:

# mkdir -p /usr/src/sys
# ln -s /usr/src/sys /sys
# cd /
# cat /cdrom/src/ssys.[a-d]* | tar xzvf -

Thanks    to    Raymond    Noel   ,   Suttipan   Limanond
 and Satwant  for finding this one in
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Page 257
________

Replace the paragraph Berkeley Packet Filter with:


pseudo-device bpfilter
______________________

The  Berkeley  Packet  Filter  (bpf)  allows  you to capture packets crossing a
network interface to disk or to examine them with the  tcpdump  program.   Note
that  this  capability represents a significant compromise of network security.
The number after bpfilter is the number of concurrent processes  that  can  use
the facility.  Not all network interfaces support bpf.

In  order  to  use  the Berkeley Packet Filter, you must also create the device
nodes /dev/bpf0 to /dev/bpf3 (if you're using the default number 4).   Current-
ly, MAKEDEV doesn't help much--you need to create each device separately:

# cd /dev
# ./MAKEDEV bpf0
# ./MAKEDEV bpf1
# ./MAKEDEV bpf2
# ./MAKEDEV bpf3

Thanks  to  Christopher  Raven   for drawing this to my
attention.

Page 264
________

In the list of disk driver flags, add:

o Bit 12 (0x1000) enables LBA (logical block addressing mode).  If this bit  is
  not set, the driver accesses the disk in CHS (cylinder/head/sector) mode.

o In  CHS  mode, if bits 11 to 8 are not equal to 0, they specify the number of
  heads to assume (between 1 and 15).  The driver recalculates  the  number  of
  cylinders to make up the total size of the disk.






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Page 273, ``Building the kernel''
_________________________________

Replace the example with:

Next, change to the build directory and build the kernel:

# cd ../../compile/FREEBIE
# make depend
# make

   The  make  depend  is needed even if the directory has just been created:
   apart from creating dependency information, it also  creates  some  files
   needed for the build.
Thanks to Mark Ovens  for drawing this to my attention.

Page 283, ``Creating the source tree''
______________________________________

Add a third point to what you need to know:

3. Possibly, the date of the last update that you want to be  included  in  the
  checkout.   If  you  specify  this date, cvs ignores any more recent updates.
  This option is often useful when somebody discovers a recently introduced bug
  in  -CURRENT:  you  check  out  the  modules  as they were before the bug was
  introduced.  You specify the date with the -D  option,  for  example  -D  "10
  December 1997".


Page 285, after the second example.
___________________________________

Add the text:

If  you  need  to check out an older version, for example if there are problems
with the most recent version of -CURRENT, you could enter:

# cvs co  -D "10 December 1997" src/sys

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Page 294
________

Add the following section:

Problems executing Linux binaries
_________________________________

One of the problems with the ELF format used by more recent Linux  binaries  is
that  they  usually  contain no information to identify them as Linux binaries.
They might equally well be BSD/OS or UnixWare binaries.  That's  not  really  a
problem  at  this point, since the only ELF format that FreeBSD 3.2 understands
is Linux, but FreeBSD-CURRENT recognizes a native FreeBSD ELF format  as  well,
and  of  course  that's  the default.  If you want to run a Linux ELF binary on
such a system, you must brand the executable using the program  brandelf.   For
example, to brand the StarOffice program swriter3, you would enter:

# brandelf -t linux /usr/local/StarOffice-3.1/linux-x86/bin/swriter3

Thanks to Dan Busarow  for bringing this to my attention.

Page 364, middle of page
________________________

Change the text from:

The names MYADDR and HISADDR are keywords which represent the addresses at each
end of the link.  They must be written as shown, though they may  be  in  lower
case.

to

The names MYADDR and HISADDR are keywords which represent the addresses at each
end of the link.  They must be written as shown, though newer versions  of  ppp
allow you to write them in lower case.

Thanks to Mark S. Reichman  for this correction.

Page 368
________

Replace the paragraph after the second example with:

In  FreeBSD  version  3.0  and  later,  specify  the  options  PPP_BSDCOMP  and

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PPP_DEFLATE to enable two kinds of compression.  You'll also  need  to  specify
the corresponding option in Kernel PPP's configuration file.  These options are
not available in FreeBSD version 2.

Thanks to Brian Somers  for this information.

Page 397
________

In the section ``Nicknames'', the example should read:

www       IN   CNAME          freebie
ftp       IN   CNAME          presto

In other words, there should be a space between CNAME and the system name.

Page 422
________

Replace the text above the example with:

tcpdump is a program which monitors a network interface and  displays  selected
information which passes through it.  It uses the Berkeley Packet Filter (bpf),
an optional component of the kernel.  It is not included in the GENERIC kernel:
see page 257 for information on how to configure it.

If you don't configure the Berkeley Packet Filter, you will get a message like

tcpdump: /dev/bpf0:  device not configured

If you forget to create the devices for bpf, you will get a message like:

tcpdump: /dev/bpf0: No such file or directory

Since  tcpdump poses a potential security problem, you must be root in order to
run it.  The simplest way to run it is without any parameters.  This will cause
tcpdump  to  monitor  and  display  all  traffic  on  the  first active network
interface, normally Ethernet:

Thanks to Christopher Raven  for  drawing  this  to  my
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Page 423
________

The  description  at  the  top of the page incorrectly uses the term IP address
instead  of  Ethernet  address.   In  addition,  a  page  number  reference  is
incorrect.  Replace the paragraph with:

o Line  1  shows  an  ARP  request:  system  presto is looking for the Ethernet
  address of wait.  It would appear that  wait  is  currently  not  responding,
  since there is no reply.

o Line 2 is not an IP message at all.  tcpdump shows the Ethernet addresses and
  the beginning of the packet.  We don't consider this kind of request in  this
  book.

o Line 3 is a broadcast ntp message.  We looked at ntp on page 160.

o Line 4 is another attempt by presto to find the IP address of wait.

o Line  5  is  a  broadcast  message  from  bumble  on  the  rwho  port, giving
  information about its current load averages and how long it has been up.  See
  the man page for rwho on page 1167 for more information.

o Line 6 is from a TCP connection between port 6000 on freebie and port 1089 on
  presto.  It is sending 384 bytes (with  the  sequence  numbers  536925467  to
  536925851; see page 305), and is acknowledging that the last byte it received
  from presto had the sequence number 325114346.  The window size is 17280.

o Line 7 is another ARP request.  presto is looking for the Ethernet address of
  freebie.   How  can  that  happen?   We've  just  seen  that  they have a TCP
  connection.  In fact, ARP information expires after 20 minutes.   It's  quite
  possible  that  all  connections between presto and freebie have been dormant
  for this period, so presto needs to find freebie's IP address again.

o Line 8 is the ARP reply from freebie to presto giving its Ethernet address.

o Line 9 shows a reply from presto on the connection to freebie that we saw  on
  line  6.   It  acknowledges  the  data  up  to sequence number 536925851, but
  doesn't send any itself.

o Line 10 shows  another  448  bytes  of  data  from  freebie  to  presto,  and
  acknowledging the same sequence number from presto as in line 6.

Thanks to Sergei S. Laskavy  for drawing this to my

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attention.

Page 450: anonymous ftp
_______________________

Replace the paragraph starting with Create a user ftp:

Create a user ftp, with the anonymous ftp directory as the home  directory  and
the  shell  /dev/null.  Using /dev/null as the shell makes it impossible to log
in as user ftp, but does not interfere with the use of anonymous ftp.  ftp  can
be a member of group bin, or you can create a new group ftp by adding the group
to /etc/group.  See page 138 for more details of adding users, and the man page
on page 805 for adding groups.

Thanks to Mark S. Reichman  for drawing this to my attention.

Page 466, before the ps example
_______________________________

Add another bullet:

o Finally,  you may find it convenient to let some other system handle all your
  mail delivery for you: you just send anything you can't  deliver  locally  to
  this  other  host,  which  sendmail calls a smart host.  This is particularly
  convenient if you send your mail with UUCP.

  To tell sendmail to use a smart host (in our  case,  mail.example.net),  find
  the following line in sendmail.cf:

  # "Smart" relay host (may be null)
  DS

  Change it to:

  # "Smart" relay host (may be null)
  DSmail.example.net


Page 478, ``Running Apache''
____________________________

The  text  describes the location of the server as /usr/local/www/server/httpd.
This appears to depend on where you get the port from.  Some people report  the
file  being  at the more likely location /usr/local/sbin/httpd (though note the

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Install ports when installing the system


directory sbin, not bin).  Check  both  locations  if  you  run  into  trouble.
Thanks to Sue Blake  for this information.

Page 492
________

Replace references to nmdb with nmbd.

Page 493
________

Replace the last paragraph on the page with:

socket  options  is  hardly  mentioned  in  the  documentation,  but  it's very
important:  many  Microsoft  implementations  of  TCP/IP  are  inefficient  and
establish  a  new  TCP  more  often  than necessary.  Select the socket options
TCP_NODELAY and IPTOS_LOWDELAY, which can speed up the response  time  of  such
applications by over 95%.



























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Aloha all,
 
 	I have a weird issue with Tripwire version 1.2 (patchlevel 2) running
on a FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE box.  This particular version on this box will report
all files with a "(null)" statements like so:
 
changed: -rw-r--r-- man          3617 (null) /usr/share/man/cat1/cu.1.gz
 
	Notice "(null)" is where the date should be.  I have the same version 
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can point me in the right direction let me know, much appreciated...

	Mahalo,


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>> You might want to set your flags to b0ffb0ff.  This turns on
>> LBA in the driver.
>
>Pardon my ignorance, but where do I find information on the
>flags?


See 'man wd' and /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT

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I've read bugtraq, and heard about the stream.c exploit and such, and that 
the fix was ipfilter.  However, I can't find information about ipfilter 
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On 21-Jan-00 hal Lynch wrote:
> here are my requirements(today).
> 
> 1. diskless (none that are writable that is).
> 2. X windows.
> 3. Auto login to a captive shell running Netscape only.
> 4. Ethernet.
> 5. boot from and run off a cdrom.
> 
> What I have in mind is a kiosk that students can use but
> can't abuse.  In addition the only application available to
> them will be netscape which will start automatically when the
> machine is booted, which can happen at any time.  If somehow the
> user manages to exit netscape the machine should restart netscape
> or reboot, of which rebooting is preferable.
> 
> If this is do-able using FreeBSD where can I look for some hints
> on how I might proceed?
> 
> What haven't I thought of that I should?

Netscape needs to write to a directory *somewhere*, even (I think)
with cacheing disabled.  You're going to have to have something writeable.
Perhaps MFS would do the trick.

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[ moved this to freebsd-questions where it's supposed to be ]

On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 11:48:42PM -0500, TKAman2@aol.com wrote:
>
> Do you know where any networking tutorials for BSD are? I didnt see
> one on your site, but I didnt look very hard either...

You can find a lot of useful information for your FreeBSD system at the
handbook.  Some of it is related to networking with FreeBSD, but you
can also find lots of other useful stuff there.  Point your favorite
web browser at URL:http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/index.html

> I am trying to get it to talk to my other Windows (yuck! ;]) based
> machines so let me know if there is anything special I would need to
> do, or if it is even worth trying to network it with windows.

To share part of your disks between the BSD box and those Windows
machines, look in the ports for Samba.  I am no Samba-expert myself,
but I know that you can make the BSD disks show up in Network
Neighborhood of Windows with Samba.

> I want to use it as an internet sharing machine, probably using
> squid. Eventually I will get a DSL or cable line and I want to be
> able to hook it into my BSD machine and use it kinda as a firewall
> and share the internet connection with the rest of the computers in
> my house.

All of that and much more is possible with FreeBSD.  Look at the
networking sections of the Handbook.  The FAQ might also provide some
useful information, which will come handy when troubles start showing
their fangs.  The home page at URL:http://www.freebsd.org/ has a link
to "Documentation".  Use that as your starting point and fear nothing.

Since I suspect that you're a newcomer to FreeBSD,

Welcome aboard.

PS: Use freebsd-questions for questions related to FreeBSD.  The
freebsd-doc list is for people working on the documentation, and it's
not the right place to ask general questions about the system.

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On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Steve Hovey wrote:

> > 
> > But Dnews and INN comparisations aren't really fair.  Last time I looked
> > at DNews it did more of a job as per leafnode(+), only fetching those
> > groups which are read.  INN is a full fledged newsserver as per
> > Typhoon/Breeze class.
> 
> Dnews supports suck feeds, but also takes IHAVE streaming full feeds. With
> each new release of INN, my performance fell.

With both CNFS buffers and buffindexed, my performance using INN has
greatly improved over previous releases ... the current -stable release,
unfortunately, doesn't have all the benefits of the current -current tree,
but its kinda like FreeBSD ... if you are willing to take a chance,
-current works very well, you just have to pick when you upgrade ...

> I do not know about the current INN - but at the time it forked procs to
> handle connections etc, whereas Dnews uses threads.  Less over all ram
> consumption.

Huh?  INN never forked processes to handle connections ... unless you are
referring to an innfeed process for outgoing news?

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I think I heard a rumor that FreeBSD/Alpha can run other *BSD binaries.
If true, or if source for Net- or OpenBSD (Alpha) - or any other OS for
the Alpha - will successfully compile, please let me know.

I'm running FreeBSD 4.0-19991225-CURRENT

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Vigor.  I think Bill Fumerola just put it in the ports too...

Vigor is scary, yet amusing
http://www.userfriendly.org for the origins of vigor.

In all seriousness, I've been using emacs for programming, and vi for
config files and they like.  One thing I haven't found yet is a good
html-oriented editor with color syntax highlighting and such, though
I've heard good things about the Amaya web browser.

For cut and paste I run klipper for X, and within emacs there's plenty
of functionality.

Hope I've helped,
Laurence

Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> 
> Not to start a war or anything, but i'm trying to decide on a fast
> powerful editor.  I've been using joe, and i just started learning vi,
> and i like it so far.  But there are new editors and new versions of
> vi that seem to have a lot to offer.  I've narrowed it down to vi, an
> enhanced version of vi (vile or vim?) uemacs, or joe.  ANy
> thoughts?  I'd like to be able to cut and paste within the editor and
> between xterms.  I really like the efficiency of vi so far, but i have
> a long ways to go before i am proficient.
> 
> -=> jm <=-
> 
> "I've done questionable things, also extraordinary things....
> Revel in your time!"
> 
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>  fuzz zzuf  writes:
>  
> i added all the parallel port stuff from LINT and added everything that
the
> FAQ says to but i still get "Device not configured"
> 
> am i missing something?

allow me to clarify

i added vpo0, nlpt0, plip0, ppi0, ppc0, and pps0 to the generic kernel
it already had ppbus0, scbus0, and da0
i have the device da0s4 (i believe that's all i need)

i just noticed that at "http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/hardware.html#AEN765" it
says i need vp0, but i have vpo0 (probably not the same thing) i checked
"http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html" and searched
around "www.freeebsd.org/search/" but didn't find much

anybody know what line i'd put in the kernel for that?

fuzz_zzuf@excite.com

hmm....."http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1778386+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/1999/freebsd-questions/19991107.freebsd-questions"
 says that vpo0 and vp0 are the same thing....so shit...i durno what's
wrong.....hehe





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On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Walter Brameld wrote:

>  Gene Harris wrote:
>  > 
>  > You might want to set your flags to b0ffb0ff.  This turns on
>  > LBA in the driver.
>  
>  Pardon my ignorance, but where do I find information on the
>  flags?
>  

/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT  Search for wdc and you will see
a commented section that deals with the flags just above it.

Gene



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I am using another computer as a gateway with ipnat. I am having
problems building ports. Should i make the ftp client use a passive
connection? If so, how?


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> > 
> > Dnews supports suck feeds, but also takes IHAVE streaming full feeds. With
> > each new release of INN, my performance fell.
> 
> With both CNFS buffers and buffindexed, my performance using INN has
> greatly improved over previous releases ... the current -stable release,
> unfortunately, doesn't have all the benefits of the current -current tree,
> but its kinda like FreeBSD ... if you are willing to take a chance,
> -current works very well, you just have to pick when you upgrade ...
> 

Now this is all news to me - I left INN when buckets were first introduced
(and had hardcoded MMAP)

> > I do not know about the current INN - but at the time it forked procs to
> > handle connections etc, whereas Dnews uses threads.  Less over all ram
> > consumption.
> 
> Huh?  INN never forked processes to handle connections ... unless you are
> referring to an innfeed process for outgoing news?

nnrpd's buds!  1 per user.



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On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 09:31:24PM -0500, Cdt666@aol.com wrote:
> I've read bugtraq, and heard about the stream.c exploit and such, and that 
> the fix was ipfilter.  However, I can't find information about ipfilter 
> anywhere on the FreeBSD pages.  What is it, where do I get it, how do I use 
> it?  Thanks for the help

man 1 ipf
man 5 ipf
man 4 ipf
man 8 ipfstat
man 1 ipftest
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On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 09:48:25PM -0000, progress@eznet.net wrote:
> Where can I read a license agreement, if there is one for FreeBSD?

I think the closest thing is the COPYRIGHT info I have included
below. But the jist of it all is that FreeBSD is freely
redistributable and is not encumbered by a GNU-style license.



# $FreeBSD: src/COPYRIGHT,v 1.2.2.2 1999/09/11 09:22:33 obrien Exp $
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source has been updated.  The copyright addendum may be found at
ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/pub/4bsd/README.Impt.License.Change and is
included below.

July 22, 1999

To All Licensees, Distributors of Any Version of BSD:

As you know, certain of the Berkeley Software Distribution ("BSD") source
code files require that further distributions of products containing all or
portions of the software, acknowledge within their advertising materials
that such products contain software developed by UC Berkeley and its
contributors.

Specifically, the provision reads:

"     * 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software
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      *    California, Berkeley and its contributors."

Effective immediately, licensees and distributors are no longer required to
include the acknowledgement within advertising materials.  Accordingly, the
foregoing paragraph of those BSD Unix files containing it is hereby deleted
in its entirety.

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On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, Steve Hovey wrote:

> > > 
> > > Dnews supports suck feeds, but also takes IHAVE streaming full feeds. With
> > > each new release of INN, my performance fell.
> > 
> > With both CNFS buffers and buffindexed, my performance using INN has
> > greatly improved over previous releases ... the current -stable release,
> > unfortunately, doesn't have all the benefits of the current -current tree,
> > but its kinda like FreeBSD ... if you are willing to take a chance,
> > -current works very well, you just have to pick when you upgrade ...
> > 
> 
> Now this is all news to me - I left INN when buckets were first introduced
> (and had hardcoded MMAP)

I tend to be stubborn ... stick with things that work even if they don't
have all the features ... INN, wu-ftpd, FreeBSD ... :)  All of which tend
to get better over time, some slower then others ...

> > > I do not know about the current INN - but at the time it forked procs to
> > > handle connections etc, whereas Dnews uses threads.  Less over all ram
> > > consumption.
> > 
> > Huh?  INN never forked processes to handle connections ... unless you are
> > referring to an innfeed process for outgoing news?
> 
> nnrpd's buds!  1 per user.

Damn, forgot about that ... ya, that one I can agree with, but there has
been work done in that department also ... not quite sure what though
... better shared memory support, I believe, so that its memory footprint
is smaller ....

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My favorite is QVT Term. by QPC.  www.qpc.com or www.frontiernet.com/~qpcsoft

Jim


At 17:04 21-01-00 +1100, Nick Slager wrote:
>Thus spake Gene Harris (zeus@tetronsoftware.com):
>
> > I am needing to use a telnet client from Win98 to work on a
> > FreeBSD box.  The standard telnet is not sufficently
> > functional for some of the work I will be performing.
> >
>
>Try CRT - http://www.vandyke.com/
>
>They also have a version that supports SSH - although downloads are restricted
>to North America :(
>
>
>Nick.
>
>--
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>
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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UNIX  - "segmentation fault - core dumped"
Humanous Beingsus - "OOPS, I've fallen and I can't get up"
-------------------------------
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Try TeraTerm. It has telnet + SSH1 and best of all it's free: 

http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA002416/teraterm.html

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On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Jim Conner wrote:

> My favorite is QVT Term. by QPC.  www.qpc.com or www.frontiernet.com/~qpcsoft
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> At 17:04 21-01-00 +1100, Nick Slager wrote:
> >Thus spake Gene Harris (zeus@tetronsoftware.com):
> >
> > > I am needing to use a telnet client from Win98 to work on a
> > > FreeBSD box.  The standard telnet is not sufficently
> > > functional for some of the work I will be performing.
> > >
> >
> >Try CRT - http://www.vandyke.com/
> >
> >They also have a version that supports SSH - although downloads are restricted
> >to North America :(
> >
> >
> >Nick.
> >
> >--
> >  From a Sun Microsystems bug report (#4102680):
> >   "Workaround: don't pound on the mouse like a wild monkey."
> >
> >
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> UNIX  - "segmentation fault - core dumped"
> Humanous Beingsus - "OOPS, I've fallen and I can't get up"
> -------------------------------
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(from bugtraq)...see below

-- snip --

At 03:44 PM 1/18/2000 , The Tree of Life wrote:
 >I've been informed today by an irc admin that a new exploit is circulating
 >around. It "sends tcp-established bitstream shit" and makes the "kernel
 >fuck up".
 >
 >It's called stream.c.
Actually, this affects most TCP stacks, including those in Linux, Solaris,
and all of the BSDs. Not tested under NT or Windows, but I'll bet it does so
there as well. The problem seems to stem from a worst-case path through the
kernel's socket lookup code, followed by the overhead of generating
a RST.
A quick bull session on the FreeBSD Security list has produced a workaround
that works on all of the BSDs and in fact anything that runs IPFilter. I
asked Darren Reed, author of IPFilter (which now comes with all of the BSDs)
if it's possible to block the attack using his firewall code, and he says
it is. Darren writes that the rules are as follows:
 >pass in all
 >block in proto tcp all head 100
 >pass in proto tcp from any to any flags S keep state group 100
(Change group 100 to something else if you're already using it in your
firewall rules.)
He's tested these rules on a Solaris 7 system and they seem to defeat
the DoS.
Note that you must be using Darren's IPFilter package for this to work.
IPFW and some other firewalls do not remember the states of connections;
they therefore can't detect the "established bistream shit" mentioned
above.
I'd recommend that all BSD users add Darren's rules as a first-pass
fix for the problem. IPFilter also runs on Linux, but doesn't come
with all distros. To get it, see http://cheops.anu.edu.au/~avalon/
--Brett Glass

-- end snip --

I have gone ahead and attempted to go by what the documents are saying 
(including man pages and the like).  However I receive messages like:

(hist 535)# ipf -f /etc/rc.ipf
open device: Device not configured
ioctl(SIOCADDFR): Bad file descriptor

Which of course this isn't very helpful since I wasn't really familiar with 
which device it used (didn't reaad the ipfstat man page yet at this point 
:) ) I went about finding out the hard way instead...

/* First things first...
  * (hist 566)# uname -a
  * FreeBSD localhost 3.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE #4: Tue Jan  4 
14:23:39 EST 2000
  * root@localhost:/usr/src/sys/compile/nj  i386
  */

(hist 535)# truss -o ipf.out ipf -fd /etc/rc.ipf
open device: Device not configured
ipf: fopen(d) failed: No such file or directory

(hist 536)# more ipf.out
syscall open("/dev/ipl",2,027757755604)
         errno 6 'Device not configured'
syscall open("/dev/ipl",0,027757755604)
         errno 6 'Device not configured'
syscall writev(0x2,0xbfbfd934,0x4)
         returns 35 (0x23)
syscall __sysctl(0xbfbfd948,0x2,0x806bbbc,0xbfbfd950,0x0,0x0)
         returns 0 (0x0)
syscall open("d",0,0666)
         errno 2 'No such file or directory'
syscall write(2,0xbfbfd288,48)
         returns 48 (0x30)
syscall exit(0x1)
         process exit, rval = 256

(hist 543)# cd /dev

(hist 544)# ls ip*
ipauth  ipl  ipnat  ipstate

(hist 545)# ls -al ipl
crw-------   1 root     wheel     79,   0 Jan 22 02:31 ipl

(hist 540)# ipf -df /etc/rc.ipf
open device: Device not configured
add 80ac723c del 80ac723d
parse [pass in all]
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0f 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0a 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
ioctl(SIOCADDFR): Bad file descriptor
parse [block in proto tcp all head 3]
00 00 00 00 00 00 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 04 00 00 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0f 00 00 ff 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 09 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
ioctl(SIOCADDFR): Bad file descriptor
parse [pass in proto tcp from any to any flags S keep state group 3]
00 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 04 00 00 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0f 00 00 ff 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ff 02 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0a 10 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
ioctl(SIOCADDFR): Bad file descriptor

I grep'ed (-i) for ipl in LINT and the kernel configuration file with 
nothing explaining a kernel configurable parameter for this device.

So, I admit Im not very keen on this ipl device.  What should I do to get 
it configured correctly?

Jim

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Today's errors, in contrast:
Windows - "Invalid page fault in module kernel32.dll at 0032:A16F2935"
UNIX  - "segmentation fault - core dumped"
Humanous Beingsus - "OOPS, I've fallen and I can't get up"
-------------------------------
Jim Conner
NOTJames
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 1/22/00, 1:32:14 AM, Walter Brameld  wrote
regarding Re: metaports ...:

> > Dear Jonathon,
> >
> > meta-ports means roughly "beyond" ports. From "meta" (from ancient
> > Greek, "proper" preposition constructed with gen. dat. & acc.) meani=
ng
> > various things, e.g. with; across; near (in); towards; after, beyond=
.
> >
> > "proper" is in relation to Greek verbs (that is, proper prepositions=

> > can be used as
> > preverbs, or prefixes in compound verbs)
> >
> > This "combining form" (in English) is productive enough ...
> >
> > N.B. my_fake_antispam_domain =3D=3D=3D> neomedia.it to e-mail to me.=

> >
> > Best regards,
> > Salvo
> >

> It's a good thing someone else sent you an answer too, eh?

> --
> Walter


Dear Mr Brameld,

I am awfully sorry to inform you that I completely miss the sense and
purpose of your letter.

Also, I very much apologize for failing utterly to see what further
elements of information it provides to Jonathon's question.

Would you be so kind as to paraphrase your message ?

Thank you very much indeed.

Yours sincerely
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Hi all,
 
Any idea how I can make world and have perl work with the -D switch?
 
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This has happened 3 times now!  I have no clue what else to do.  I want
 to ship this server 
to my hosting provider tomorrow morning and this is very very
 disturbing... 
 
I was logged in on the console and I was looking for a file, so I was
 doing 
this from the root: 
find . | grep file 
 
It was chugging right along when suddenly disk IO stopped.  I tried
 Ctrl-C 
and nothing happened.  I switched to another open session that was
 sitting 
at a prompt and I hit enter.  Nothing happened.  A new line appeared,
 but 
not the prompt.  I tried again in another session I had open.  Same
 thing. 
Then I tried to login again on a final session, and when I hit enter
 after 
typing a username, nothing. 
 
All that was running at the time was MySQL (not doing anything), Apache
 (not 
doing anything), and my find. 
 
So..  My guess as to what happened is that something killed the file
 system 
or the drives or the driver or something.  I found it odd that no
 messages 
were sent to the console about it.  FreeBSD didn't even seem to notice. 
 
I reset the box and everything came back up fine..  Later I was in the 
process of doing a backup by tarring to a another hard drive when it 
happened again.  This time I had top running in another session.  I
 switched 
to it and saw that the box seemed to be alive and all was good.  Things
 were 
running.  But anything that used disk IO was sitting idle now--including
 tar 
and gzip (which should have been backing up).  The same things as before
 
happened (hitting enter and not getting a new prompt, etc). 
 
I left it this way for a long time (over night) to see if it would come
 out 
of it and continue working.  It didn't.  In the morning I had to reset
 it. 
 
Now the strange part is, today I was trying very hard to kill it and 
it's was not stopping.  I did the same find as last night, I backed up
 all 
my drives onto my backup hard drives same as before.  And I've did all
 this 
several times.  Nothing strange happened.

But then the daily.local cron ran (where I have it doing the backup) and
 it locked again.  This is the 3rd time.  This is very critical!
 
So..  My question here is, WTF?  Any clues at all? 
 
System: 
FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE 
Dual PII 400 Mhz (SMP kernel, of course) 
256 MB Ram 
Gigabyte MB (don't remember the model off hand) 
Drive setup: 
SCSI 6: 4.5 GB IBM (boot)  (/, /usr, and swap) 
SCSI 9: 9 GB IBM (used for backup and extra space) (/eddie) 
IDE: Bus 1 Master: 37 GB IBM  (/sites) 
IDE: Bus 1 Slave: none 
IDE: Bus 2 Master: 25 GB IBM (/wowbagger part 1) 
IDE Bus 2 Slave: 20 GB WD (/wowbagger part 2) 
(Both drives on IDE Bus 2 are concated using vinum and used for backing
 up 
and stuff) 
 
The SCSI drive contains the main system and my database. 
The first IDE drive contains the main site and files and stuff. 
Everything else is used for either backup or overflow space. 
 
I'm not sure if the above drive layout is silly or not, but it seemed
 cool 
at the time.. Plus the backup drives were added after the system was
 setup, 
otherwise some things would probably have been switched around.  :-) 
 
Anyway, what the heck is the problem?  Any ideas at all?  A deadlock
 case or 
race condition or something else?  Running out of allowed open files? 
 This 
worries me a lot.  I've had the box running fine for a couple weeks now
 and 
the day before shipping it acts wacko. 
 
Thanks. 
l8r 
Sean 
 




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(Sorry about the broken line breaks)

I had top running this third time and the stat tar was stuck in is
 "vinvlb".  I don't know if that will mean anything.  (It doesn't to me)

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Hiyall,

ELM in 2.2.8-STABLE failes to build. Here's the complete output of the
port tree make:

bash# make
===>  Extracting for elm-2.4ME+61
>> Checksum OK for elm-2.4ME+61.tar.gz.
===>  Patching for elm-2.4ME+61
===>  Applying FreeBSD patches for elm-2.4ME+61
===>  Configuring for elm-2.4ME+61
(I see you are using the Korn shell.  Some ksh's blow up on Configure,
especially on exotic machines.  If yours does, try the Bourne shell instead.)
 
Doing variable substitutions on .SH files...
Extracting Makefile (with variable substitutions)
Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions)
Extracting doc/Makefile (with variable substitutions)
Extracting filter/Makefile (with variable substitutions)
Extracting hdrs/sysdefs.h (with variable substitutions)
Extracting lib/Makefile (with variable substitutions)
Extracting src/Makefile (with variable substitutions)
Extracting utils/Makefile (with variable substitutions)
Extracting utils/checkalias (with variable substitutions)
Extracting utils/listalias (with variable substitutions)
Extracting utils/messages (with variable substitutions)
Extracting utils/printmail (with variable substitutions)
Extracting melib/Makefile (with variable substitutions)
 
Now you must run a make.
/bin/cp /usr/ports/mail/elm/files/elm.mimecharsets /usr/ports/mail/elm/work/elm2.4.ME+.61/bin
===>  Building for elm-2.4ME+61
cd melib; /usr/bin/make  - all
/bin/chmod u+w ../hdrs/defs.h
/usr/bin/touch ../hdrs/defs.h
/bin/chmod u+w ../hdrs/headers.h
/usr/bin/touch ../hdrs/headers.h
cc -I../hdrs  -O   -c parse_util.c
In file included from ../hdrs/headers.h:22,
                 from parse_util.c:10:
../hdrs/defs.h:515: inttypes.h: No such file or directory
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Regards,

d.




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Hi!

I've written special login.conf to restrict regular users access/auth
rights.  Particulary, login no more than on 4 consoles, and no login from
certain ttys, timelimits, etc.

So, it seems that login should call proper pam modules, configured in
/etc/pam.conf (which is left default for now, until I figure all things
out).

The odd thing is that certain restrictions work, such as maxproc limits
(and relatives), while the others do not (login sessions number limits,
autologoff when timelimit reached, etc).  Moreover, I see no PAM[...]
entries in syslog logs (I have *.* all go to /dev/ttyvb) -- nothing like
this there.

So, what program has to check all those?  Login?  But it inself should be
using PAM whenever possible.  For instance, under Linux, there's
pam_nologin module, which checks for nologin file (/etc/ under linux and
/var/run/ under fBSD).  I can't see any evidence that PAM routines get
called on my system.

If you need any addition info, say it ;-)  I'm using 3.4-RELEASE.
Standard /etc/pam.conf (no pam.d directory), I didn't change that.

How to enable PAM?

Thanx.

./danfe



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On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, Ian Moore wrote:

> On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, Alejandro Ramirez wrote:
> > Hi Ian,
> > 
> > > Bad system call - core dumped
> > > *** Error code 140 (ignored)
> > > ===>   Generating temporary packing list
> > > install: /usr/local/Office51/bin: No such file or directory
> > 
> > I had this error once that Itried to install it with the linux_base-6.1
> > port, then I had to remove this port and install the linux_base-5.2 port,
> > and all went smoothly.
> 
> I can't find linux_base-5.2 on the FreeBSD server - do you know where I might
> be able to get it?
> Or would I be better off updating to 3.4-Release as Darren Wiebe suggests?
> 

Both. I'd update 3.2 anyway. You can install linux_base-5.2 easily through
/stand/sysinstall (be warned that it's huge) - if you've installed 6.1,
make sure you uninstall it before you do anything.

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> Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> > 
> > Not to start a war or anything, but i'm trying to decide on a fast
> > powerful editor.  I've been using joe, and i just started learning vi,
> > and i like it so far.  But there are new editors and new versions of
> > vi that seem to have a lot to offer.  I've narrowed it down to vi, an
> > enhanced version of vi (vile or vim?) uemacs, or joe.  ANy
> > thoughts?  I'd like to be able to cut and paste within the editor and
> > between xterms.  I really like the efficiency of vi so far, but i have
> > a long ways to go before i am proficient.
> > 

Since you're using X anyway, I suggest you try nedit - it's in the ports.

-ac

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I'm getting this in dmesg:

fdc0:  at port 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
fd1: <2880-KB 3.5" drive (in 1440-KB mode)> on fdc0 drive 1
WARNING: "fd" is usurping "fd"'s cdevsw[]
WARNING: "fd" is usurping "fd"'s bmaj
 
Is this a problem, perhaps related to the message on boot
(very early, before the scsi card is found): Static Resource Conflict?

Thanks,

	Annelise



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Thoughts, yes!

I asked nearly the same question a few months ago.  The conclusion I came to
was: stick to vi for two reasons:

1) it is on every UNIX machine in the world, apparently, so you always have
it there, which can't be said of some of the others.
2) the first editor you use in any environment is often the one you finally
think is best.  This is true of any program group.

Stick with vi.  You will soon get used to it.  I went so far as to d/l a
shareware proggy - or maybe it was free - which emulates vi on my NT
machines.  I have to say that I have forgotten to use it much, since the
excellent Programmers File Editor is automatically configured for txt, log
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To just enter the debugger without loading a script to test things out:

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Thought I'd throw this @ the list as well...

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Bartlett 
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 2:56 PM
To: 'Burke Gallagher'
Subject: RE: internet gateway setup using NATD


Hey Burke,

Sorry to bug you again, but I'm having another problem and it could be
related to what you told me to do and could also prove interesting...

On one of my other boxes I run this script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d

/sbin/natd -n fxp0 -redirect_port tcp 196.38.133.194:110 196.38.133.198:80
/sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via fxp0

If you are confused, the reason is that we needed to get around a firewall
problem (one of our consultants other company close 110 access on their
firewall - this way he can pickup his mail from us with port 80!! ;) ).

Anyway,

I tried the identical thing on my box with your settings and take a look...

[eyeland] # /sbin/natd -n rl0 -redirect_port tcp 196.31.83.226:25
196.31.83.227:80
[eyeland] # telnet 196.31.83.227 80
Trying 196.31.83.227...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused

Now the .227 ip is an alias on rl0, so it should just be passed along the
same NIC and have no problems. I also tried the destination being on rl1
(192.168.62.150:25) which is an smtp server on my local network and that
didn't work either.

Any thoughts?

Cheers

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Burke Gallagher [mailto:burke@gallagher.chicago.il.us]
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 5:29 AM
To: Michael Bartlett
Subject: Re: internet gateway setup using NATD


RE: internet gateway setup using NATDMike,

you are sooo close.



1. Network is basically on a 192.168.62.0 class. I've got a cisco router
(196.31.83.225) plugged straight into the BSD box (196.31.83.226) on rl0 and
the BSD box is plugged into the server hub on rl1 (192.168.62.1).

INTERNET      CISCO                                      BSD GATEWAY
LOCAL NET

+------------------------------------------------+
                    196.31.83.225 ------|  196.31.83.226 (rl0)
(rl1) 192.168.62.1  | -------------- 192.168.62.xxx

+-----------------------------------------------+

2. Let's simply the rc.conf file a liitle (sysinstall is nice but not too
friendly to the rc.* files)
    nothing has really changed here just easier to read and find like items

---------- rc.conf --------------------------------------------
hostname="eyeland.eye2eye.net"

network_interfaces="rl0 rl1 lo0"
ifconfig_rl0="inet 196.31.83.226  netmask 255.255.255.224"
ifconfig_rl1="inet 192.168.62.1  netmask 255.255.255.0"

defaultrouter="196.31.83.225"

gateway_enable="YES"

natd_enable="YES"
natd_interface="rl0"
natd_flags="-f /etc/natd.conf"

firewall_enable="YES"
firewall_type="open"
---------- end rc.conf -----------------------------------------

3. agreed on the no firewall at start (I always debug with the firewall
open)
rename /etc/rc.firewall to rc.firewall.orig and let's build a new one

---------- rc.firewall -------------------------------------------
/sbin/ipfw -f flush

/sbin/ipfw  add 1000 pass all from any to any via lo0
/sbin/ipfw  add 1100 deny all from 127.0.0.0/8 to 127.0.0.0/8

/sbin/ipfw add 1500  divert natd all from any to any via rl0
/sbin/ipfw add 65000 pass all from any to any
---------- end rc.firewall ---------------------------------------

 At the moment I've renamed rc.firewall to rc.firewall.bak because I thought
it was causing a problem. Whats happening at the moment is when I come out
of a boot, I can't ping the box or anything as its so firewalled its scary!
I can't even ping other machines on the box console as it tells me Access
Denied or something along those lines. So I renamed rc.firewall as I thought
it could be causing the problem, but it doesn't look like it is.
Footnote here, when I come out the reboot I have to execute the following
for the machine to be "unfirewalled" :
/sbin/ipfw -f flush

<=== you need the lo0 interface lines here
/sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via ed0 <=== problem should
be rl0 not ed0 (name of natd interface)
/sbin/ipfw add pass all from any to any


4.  the /etc/natd.conf file is fine

interface rl0
use_sockets yes
same_ports yes
dynamic yes     <=== this is not required but should not hurt.


Setup the rc.conf and rc.firewall files on your gateway then reboot (23
years of microsoft is showing).
log on to your gateway and you should be able to surf the internet and your
local net (try pinging hosts on both net interfaces)
now try log on to one of your local hosts
    ping  local interface (this is a given)
    ping 192.168.62.1 (if this does not work, you said it did but always
check, then you have a local net problem)
    ping 196.31.83.226 (outbound side on gateway)
    ping 196.31.83.225 (the cisco)
    ping your ISP's DNS servers
    ping  www.yourprovider.com

let me know if this has helped.   I will be editing and rewriting up a
tutorial on IPFW/NATD shortly and will send you the URL. I would appreciate
it if you would send me your comments.

burke




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Thought I'd throw this @ the list as well...




-----Original Message-----

From: Michael Bartlett 

Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 2:56 PM

To: 'Burke Gallagher'

Subject: RE: internet gateway setup using =
NATD






Hey Burke,




Sorry to bug you again, but I'm having another =
problem and it could be related to what you told me to do and could =
also prove interesting...



On one of my other boxes I run this script in =
/usr/local/etc/rc.d




/sbin/natd -n fxp0 -redirect_port tcp =
196.38.133.194:110 196.38.133.198:80

/sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via =
fxp0




If you are confused, the reason is that we needed to =
get around a firewall problem (one of our consultants other company =
close 110 access on their firewall - this way he can pickup his mail =
from us with port 80!! ;) ).



Anyway,




I tried the identical thing on my box with your =
settings and take a look...




[eyeland] # /sbin/natd -n rl0 -redirect_port tcp =
196.31.83.226:25 196.31.83.227:80

[eyeland] # telnet 196.31.83.227 80

Trying 196.31.83.227...

telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection =
refused




Now the .227 ip is an alias on rl0, so it should just =
be passed along the same NIC and have no problems. I also tried the =
destination being on rl1 (192.168.62.150:25) which is an smtp server on =
my local network and that didn't work either.



Any thoughts?




Cheers




Mike






-----Original Message-----

From: Burke Gallagher [mailto:burke@gallagher.chi=
cago.il.us]

Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 5:29 AM

To: Michael Bartlett

Subject: Re: internet gateway setup using =
NATD






RE: internet gateway setup using NATDMike,




you are sooo close.








1. Network is basically on a 192.168.62.0 class. I've =
got a cisco router

(196.31.83.225) plugged straight into the BSD box =
(196.31.83.226) on rl0 and

the BSD box is plugged into the server hub on rl1 =
(192.168.62.1).




INTERNET      =
CISCO           &=
nbsp;           &=
nbsp;           &=
nbsp;  BSD GATEWAY

LOCAL NET




+------------------------------------------------+

          &nb=
sp;         196.31.83.225 =
------|  196.31.83.226 (rl0)

(rl1) 192.168.62.1  | -------------- =
192.168.62.xxx




+-----------------------------------------------+




2. Let's simply the rc.conf file a liitle (sysinstall =
is nice but not too

friendly to the rc.* files)

    nothing has really changed here =
just easier to read and find like items




---------- rc.conf =
--------------------------------------------

hostname=3D"eyeland.eye2eye.net"




network_interfaces=3D"rl0 rl1 lo0"

ifconfig_rl0=3D"inet 196.31.83.226  =
netmask 255.255.255.224"

ifconfig_rl1=3D"inet 192.168.62.1  netmask =
255.255.255.0"




defaultrouter=3D"196.31.83.225"




gateway_enable=3D"YES"




natd_enable=3D"YES"

natd_interface=3D"rl0"

natd_flags=3D"-f /etc/natd.conf"




firewall_enable=3D"YES"

firewall_type=3D"open"

---------- end rc.conf =
-----------------------------------------




3. agreed on the no firewall at start (I always debug =
with the firewall

open)

rename /etc/rc.firewall to rc.firewall.orig and =
let's build a new one




---------- rc.firewall =
-------------------------------------------

/sbin/ipfw -f flush




/sbin/ipfw  add 1000 pass all from any to any =
via lo0

/sbin/ipfw  add 1100 deny all from 127.0.0.0/8 =
to 127.0.0.0/8




/sbin/ipfw add 1500  divert natd all from any to =
any via rl0

/sbin/ipfw add 65000 pass all from any to any

---------- end rc.firewall =
---------------------------------------




 At the moment I've renamed rc.firewall to =
rc.firewall.bak because I thought

it was causing a problem. Whats happening at the =
moment is when I come out

of a boot, I can't ping the box or anything as its =
so firewalled its scary!

I can't even ping other machines on the box console =
as it tells me Access

Denied or something along those lines. So I renamed =
rc.firewall as I thought

it could be causing the problem, but it doesn't look =
like it is.

Footnote here, when I come out the reboot I have to =
execute the following

for the machine to be "unfirewalled" =
:

/sbin/ipfw -f flush




<=3D=3D=3D you need the lo0 interface lines =
here

/sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via =
ed0 <=3D=3D=3D problem should

be rl0 not ed0 (name of natd interface)

/sbin/ipfw add pass all from any to any






4.  the /etc/natd.conf file is fine




interface rl0

use_sockets yes

same_ports yes

dynamic yes     <=3D=3D=3D =
this is not required but should not hurt.






Setup the rc.conf and rc.firewall files on your =
gateway then reboot (23

years of microsoft is showing).

log on to your gateway and you should be able to =
surf the internet and your

local net (try pinging hosts on both net =
interfaces)

now try log on to one of your local hosts

    ping  local interface (this =
is a given)

    ping 192.168.62.1 (if this does =
not work, you said it did but always

check, then you have a local net problem)

    ping 196.31.83.226 (outbound side =
on gateway)

    ping 196.31.83.225 (the =
cisco)

    ping your ISP's DNS =
servers

    ping  =
www.yourprovider.com




let me know if this has helped.   I will be =
editing and rewriting up a

tutorial on IPFW/NATD shortly and will send you the =
URL. I would appreciate

it if you would send me your comments.




burke









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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Bartlett 
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 2:56 PM
To: 'Burke Gallagher'
Subject: RE: internet gateway setup using NATD


Hey Burke,

Sorry to bug you again, but I'm having another problem and it could be
related to what you told me to do and could also prove interesting...

On one of my other boxes I run this script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d

/sbin/natd -n fxp0 -redirect_port tcp 196.38.133.194:110 196.38.133.198:80
/sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via fxp0

If you are confused, the reason is that we needed to get around a firewall
problem (one of our consultants other company close 110 access on their
firewall - this way he can pickup his mail from us with port 80!! ;) ).

Anyway,

I tried the identical thing on my box with your settings and take a look...

[eyeland] # /sbin/natd -n rl0 -redirect_port tcp 196.31.83.226:25
196.31.83.227:80
[eyeland] # telnet 196.31.83.227 80
Trying 196.31.83.227...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused

Now the .227 ip is an alias on rl0, so it should just be passed along the
same NIC and have no problems. I also tried the destination being on rl1
(192.168.62.150:25) which is an smtp server on my local network and that
didn't work either.

Any thoughts?

Cheers

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Burke Gallagher [mailto:burke@gallagher.chicago.il.us]
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 5:29 AM
To: Michael Bartlett
Subject: Re: internet gateway setup using NATD


RE: internet gateway setup using NATDMike,

you are sooo close.



1. Network is basically on a 192.168.62.0 class. I've got a cisco router
(196.31.83.225) plugged straight into the BSD box (196.31.83.226) on rl0 and
the BSD box is plugged into the server hub on rl1 (192.168.62.1).

INTERNET      CISCO                                      BSD GATEWAY
LOCAL NET

+------------------------------------------------+
                    196.31.83.225 ------|  196.31.83.226 (rl0)
(rl1) 192.168.62.1  | -------------- 192.168.62.xxx

+-----------------------------------------------+

2. Let's simply the rc.conf file a liitle (sysinstall is nice but not too
friendly to the rc.* files)
    nothing has really changed here just easier to read and find like items

---------- rc.conf --------------------------------------------
hostname="eyeland.eye2eye.net"

network_interfaces="rl0 rl1 lo0"
ifconfig_rl0="inet 196.31.83.226  netmask 255.255.255.224"
ifconfig_rl1="inet 192.168.62.1  netmask 255.255.255.0"

defaultrouter="196.31.83.225"

gateway_enable="YES"

natd_enable="YES"
natd_interface="rl0"
natd_flags="-f /etc/natd.conf"

firewall_enable="YES"
firewall_type="open"
---------- end rc.conf -----------------------------------------

3. agreed on the no firewall at start (I always debug with the firewall
open)
rename /etc/rc.firewall to rc.firewall.orig and let's build a new one

---------- rc.firewall -------------------------------------------
/sbin/ipfw -f flush

/sbin/ipfw  add 1000 pass all from any to any via lo0
/sbin/ipfw  add 1100 deny all from 127.0.0.0/8 to 127.0.0.0/8

/sbin/ipfw add 1500  divert natd all from any to any via rl0
/sbin/ipfw add 65000 pass all from any to any
---------- end rc.firewall ---------------------------------------

 At the moment I've renamed rc.firewall to rc.firewall.bak because I thought
it was causing a problem. Whats happening at the moment is when I come out
of a boot, I can't ping the box or anything as its so firewalled its scary!
I can't even ping other machines on the box console as it tells me Access
Denied or something along those lines. So I renamed rc.firewall as I thought
it could be causing the problem, but it doesn't look like it is.
Footnote here, when I come out the reboot I have to execute the following
for the machine to be "unfirewalled" :
/sbin/ipfw -f flush

<=== you need the lo0 interface lines here
/sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via ed0 <=== problem should
be rl0 not ed0 (name of natd interface)
/sbin/ipfw add pass all from any to any


4.  the /etc/natd.conf file is fine

interface rl0
use_sockets yes
same_ports yes
dynamic yes     <=== this is not required but should not hurt.


Setup the rc.conf and rc.firewall files on your gateway then reboot (23
years of microsoft is showing).
log on to your gateway and you should be able to surf the internet and your
local net (try pinging hosts on both net interfaces)
now try log on to one of your local hosts
    ping  local interface (this is a given)
    ping 192.168.62.1 (if this does not work, you said it did but always
check, then you have a local net problem)
    ping 196.31.83.226 (outbound side on gateway)
    ping 196.31.83.225 (the cisco)
    ping your ISP's DNS servers
    ping  www.yourprovider.com

let me know if this has helped.   I will be editing and rewriting up a
tutorial on IPFW/NATD shortly and will send you the URL. I would appreciate
it if you would send me your comments.

burke




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FW: internet gateway setup using NATD




Thought I'd throw this @ the list as well...




-----Original Message-----

From: Michael Bartlett 

Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 2:56 PM

To: 'Burke Gallagher'

Subject: RE: internet gateway setup using =
NATD






Hey Burke,




Sorry to bug you again, but I'm having another =
problem and it could be related to what you told me to do and could =
also prove interesting...



On one of my other boxes I run this script in =
/usr/local/etc/rc.d




/sbin/natd -n fxp0 -redirect_port tcp =
196.38.133.194:110 196.38.133.198:80

/sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via =
fxp0




If you are confused, the reason is that we needed to =
get around a firewall problem (one of our consultants other company =
close 110 access on their firewall - this way he can pickup his mail =
from us with port 80!! ;) ).



Anyway,




I tried the identical thing on my box with your =
settings and take a look...




[eyeland] # /sbin/natd -n rl0 -redirect_port tcp =
196.31.83.226:25 196.31.83.227:80

[eyeland] # telnet 196.31.83.227 80

Trying 196.31.83.227...

telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection =
refused




Now the .227 ip is an alias on rl0, so it should just =
be passed along the same NIC and have no problems. I also tried the =
destination being on rl1 (192.168.62.150:25) which is an smtp server on =
my local network and that didn't work either.



Any thoughts?




Cheers




Mike






-----Original Message-----

From: Burke Gallagher [mailto:burke@gallagher.chi=
cago.il.us]

Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 5:29 AM

To: Michael Bartlett

Subject: Re: internet gateway setup using =
NATD






RE: internet gateway setup using NATDMike,




you are sooo close.








1. Network is basically on a 192.168.62.0 class. I've =
got a cisco router

(196.31.83.225) plugged straight into the BSD box =
(196.31.83.226) on rl0 and

the BSD box is plugged into the server hub on rl1 =
(192.168.62.1).




INTERNET      =
CISCO           &=
nbsp;           &=
nbsp;           &=
nbsp;  BSD GATEWAY

LOCAL NET




+------------------------------------------------+

          &nb=
sp;         196.31.83.225 =
------|  196.31.83.226 (rl0)

(rl1) 192.168.62.1  | -------------- =
192.168.62.xxx




+-----------------------------------------------+




2. Let's simply the rc.conf file a liitle (sysinstall =
is nice but not too

friendly to the rc.* files)

    nothing has really changed here =
just easier to read and find like items




---------- rc.conf =
--------------------------------------------

hostname=3D"eyeland.eye2eye.net"




network_interfaces=3D"rl0 rl1 lo0"

ifconfig_rl0=3D"inet 196.31.83.226  =
netmask 255.255.255.224"

ifconfig_rl1=3D"inet 192.168.62.1  netmask =
255.255.255.0"




defaultrouter=3D"196.31.83.225"




gateway_enable=3D"YES"




natd_enable=3D"YES"

natd_interface=3D"rl0"

natd_flags=3D"-f /etc/natd.conf"




firewall_enable=3D"YES"

firewall_type=3D"open"

---------- end rc.conf =
-----------------------------------------




3. agreed on the no firewall at start (I always debug =
with the firewall

open)

rename /etc/rc.firewall to rc.firewall.orig and =
let's build a new one




---------- rc.firewall =
-------------------------------------------

/sbin/ipfw -f flush




/sbin/ipfw  add 1000 pass all from any to any =
via lo0

/sbin/ipfw  add 1100 deny all from 127.0.0.0/8 =
to 127.0.0.0/8




/sbin/ipfw add 1500  divert natd all from any to =
any via rl0

/sbin/ipfw add 65000 pass all from any to any

---------- end rc.firewall =
---------------------------------------




 At the moment I've renamed rc.firewall to =
rc.firewall.bak because I thought

it was causing a problem. Whats happening at the =
moment is when I come out

of a boot, I can't ping the box or anything as its =
so firewalled its scary!

I can't even ping other machines on the box console =
as it tells me Access

Denied or something along those lines. So I renamed =
rc.firewall as I thought

it could be causing the problem, but it doesn't look =
like it is.

Footnote here, when I come out the reboot I have to =
execute the following

for the machine to be "unfirewalled" =
:

/sbin/ipfw -f flush




<=3D=3D=3D you need the lo0 interface lines =
here

/sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via =
ed0 <=3D=3D=3D problem should

be rl0 not ed0 (name of natd interface)

/sbin/ipfw add pass all from any to any






4.  the /etc/natd.conf file is fine




interface rl0

use_sockets yes

same_ports yes

dynamic yes     <=3D=3D=3D =
this is not required but should not hurt.






Setup the rc.conf and rc.firewall files on your =
gateway then reboot (23

years of microsoft is showing).

log on to your gateway and you should be able to =
surf the internet and your

local net (try pinging hosts on both net =
interfaces)

now try log on to one of your local hosts

    ping  local interface (this =
is a given)

    ping 192.168.62.1 (if this does =
not work, you said it did but always

check, then you have a local net problem)

    ping 196.31.83.226 (outbound side =
on gateway)

    ping 196.31.83.225 (the =
cisco)

    ping your ISP's DNS =
servers

    ping  =
www.yourprovider.com




let me know if this has helped.   I will be =
editing and rewriting up a

tutorial on IPFW/NATD shortly and will send you the =
URL. I would appreciate

it if you would send me your comments.




burke









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I'm having some trouble installing X under FreeBSD 3.4.
The setup seems to go fine and when I start X it seems
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screen a lot (since this happens everytime the window have
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, Enoch Wu wrote:

> Try TeraTerm. It has telnet + SSH1 and best of all it's free: 
> 
> http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA002416/teraterm.html
> 
> > >Thus spake Gene Harris (zeus@tetronsoftware.com):
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[insert obligatory Telnet-Is-Evil-Use-SSH lecture]

TeraTerm is as good as it gets when it comes to freeware for the purpose.
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you're in North America.

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On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, James A Wilde wrote:

>Thoughts, yes!
>
>I asked nearly the same question a few months ago.  The conclusion I came to
>was: stick to vi for two reasons:

Well, i think i have to agree with you.  I installed vim last night,
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editor!  Small, fast, (not like emacs) like you said, on every
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Matt Rohrer wrote:

> I'm trying to install 3.3 to a brand new Maxtor drive. In the
> disklabel editor I get the message "Unable to swap to /dev/wd0s1b: Device
> not configured. This may cause intallation to fail at some point if you
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> 
> This is true. I've attempted to install many times (Cyrix 133 w/16 megs
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> device" so that the swap space will work? The system I'm installing on has
> nothing but the fresh drive, a cdrom and a floppy drive.
> 
> Thanks for helping a newbie.
> 
> -Matt

Hi Matt,

Go to /dev and type ./MAKEDEV wd0s1b
and add to /etc/fstab the following line:
/dev/wd0s1b             none            swap    sw              0       0

Then type:

swapon -a

This wil enable all swappartitions from /etc/fstab.

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Hi all!

I've noticed rather strange behavior of my fBSD box.  I have mousesystems
mouse on cuaa1, and in rc.i386, I can see:

# mouse daemon
if [ "X${moused_enable}" = X"YES" ] ; then
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fi

So, mouse is only enabled on ttyv0 by default.  To enable it on on all
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Is this some kinda bug?  It's easy to get everything working; but it not
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FreeBSD,                                               Saturday, January 22, 2000

   I am having a problem with a custom compilation of exim I'm trying to copy
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> 
> Anyone know of a quick way to take a PostScript file that is 1-up and turn
> it into a 4-up PostScript file that I can print and save a few trees?

	You want `psnup' from the psutils.

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> I've read bugtraq, and heard about the stream.c exploit and such, and
> that the fix was ipfilter.  However, I can't find information about
> ipfilter anywhere on the FreeBSD pages.  What is it, where do I get
> it, how do I use it?  Thanks for the help

Take a look at the freebsd diary [ URL:http://www.freebsddiary.org/ ].

They have a nice article on ipfilter.

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On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 12:27:16PM -0500, Brandon Fosdick wrote:
>
> Where do I find info on setting up a CVS server? I'm looking for something
> a little easier to use than a man page. I need to set one up for work and
> I've never done this before. I'm using 3.4-S.

There is a nice book about CVS at
URL:http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/cvsbook-1.1.pdf.gz

It helped me understand a lot of concepts about CVS when I got it ;)

Ciao.

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On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 06:51:43PM +0100, Klaus Brunner wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm trying to get ipfilter (plus ipnat) to work on my 3.4-STABLE box
> (fresh cvsup today, kernel options IPFILTER and IPFILTER_LOG). The
> ipfilter comes up and gives me an "initialized, default = pass all,
> logging = enabled" message. ipnat gets initialized and works fine.
> 
> However, as soon as I try to add ANY rule using ipf, I get a "File
> exists" message. 
> 
> Example (trying to enter a simple rule from stdin):
> 
> root@winf# ipf -f -
> pass in all
> ^D
> ioctl(SIOCADDFR): File exists

This probably means that you have a rule that resembles this in your filters
already.  See below:

    # ipfstat -nio
    ...
    @2 pass in from any to any
    ^C
    # ipf -f -
    pass in all
    ioctl(SIOCADDFR): File exists
    # ipf -FA
    ipf -f -
    pass in all
    ^D

Obviously the `pass in all' and `pass in from any to any' rules are the
same thing, and that's why I get a "File exists" error message.  After
I clear the rules list with ipf, I can use this rule again because no
equivalent exists.

Look again in your rules for little mistakes like this one.

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On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 04:14:58PM +0000, Chris.Smith@raytheon.co.uk wrote:
> 
> CAUTION: Watch out.  It will paste carriage returns etc as well so if you
> have a command that wants to change from
> 
> rm -rf /
> 
> changes to
> 
> rm -rf /opt/netscape
> 
> then make sure you dont select past the end of the line otherwise it'll
> copy the CR then bye bye BSD etc.

Ah well, I surely hope you're not cut 'n pasting commands in root windows.

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On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 04:26:08AM -0500, David V. D. wrote:
>
> I have a question about freebsd firewall, how can I set it to block (no
> reply) icmp. I'm using FreeBSD 3.4-20000112-STABLE.

If you want to stop only the outgoing icmp messages, and your interface to
the world is ppp0, you can use:

    ipfw add NUM deny icmp from any to any out xmit ppp0

Change NUM accordingly, and replace `ppp0' with the interface of your default
route.  If you have more than one interfaces, you can add more rules for them
like the one shown above, i.e.

    ipfw add NUM deny icmp from any to any out xmit ed0
    ipfw add NUM deny icmp from any to any out xmit tun0

You get the point by now...

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Salvo Bartolotta wrote:
> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> 
> On 1/22/00, 1:32:14 AM, Walter Brameld  wrote
> regarding Re: metaports ...:
> 
> > > Dear Jonathon,
> > >
> > > meta-ports means roughly "beyond" ports. From "meta" (from ancient
> > > Greek, "proper" preposition constructed with gen. dat. & acc.) meaning
> > > various things, e.g. with; across; near (in); towards; after, beyond.
> > >
> > > "proper" is in relation to Greek verbs (that is, proper prepositions
> > > can be used as
> > > preverbs, or prefixes in compound verbs)
> > >
> > > This "combining form" (in English) is productive enough ...
> > >
> > > N.B. my_fake_antispam_domain ===> neomedia.it to e-mail to me.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Salvo
> > >
> 
> > It's a good thing someone else sent you an answer too, eh?
> 
> > --
> > Walter
> 
> Dear Mr Brameld,
> 
> I am awfully sorry to inform you that I completely miss the sense and
> purpose of your letter.
> 
> Also, I very much apologize for failing utterly to see what further
> elements of information it provides to Jonathon's question.
> 
> Would you be so kind as to paraphrase your message ?
> 
> Thank you very much indeed.
> 
> Yours sincerely
> Salvo Bartolotta

Dear Mr. Bartolotta,

I commend you on giving a very comprehensive explanation of
the word "meta". However, Jonathon's original question was
"What is a meta-PORT?" and I also lacked this bit of
knowledge, so I was interested in the reply. The other
respondent provided the information that a meta-port is one
that will install other ports that are required for it to
function. Using rules of theory, or perhaps even Occam's
razor I felt that was the more definitive explanation. If
failing to glean this information from your response was due
to a lack of intelligence on my part, please do not take
umbrage. I do have many short-comings.

Yours sincerely,
Walter Brameld

in·tel·lec·tu·al (ntl-kch-l) 
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Giorgos Keramidas  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 08:45:16AM +1000, Colin Campbell wrote:
 >> 
 >> What about "polling" using getppid(). If the parent dies, the PPID
 >> will change (to 1?), will it not?
 > 
 > Yes, if the parent catches SIGCHLD, I think that this is the rule.  But
 > it's still polling...

It doesn't matter if the parent catches SIGCHLD.  When it dies,
the orphaned process is picked up by init (PID 1), no matter
what.

But you're right:  it's still polling...

Regards
   Oliver

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Hello all!

I began installing FreeBSD release 3.4. All the hardware was correctly =
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changing root device to fd0c
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On 21/01 23:39, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

> Not to start a war or anything, but i'm trying to decide on a fast
> powerful editor.  I've been using joe, and i just started learning vi,

     http://www.vim.org
  or cd /usr/ports/editors/vim5 && make install

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Crist J. Clark  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > But since we're having so much fun with all of this, maybe I should
 > try this one on all of you. Given Ben's code above, how would _you_
 > determine how long ago $DATE was from the present time?

I'd first convert the date string to a time_t value.  The
easiest way to accomplish that is probably to install GNU
date:

   DATE="Fri 21 Jan 2000 00:15:59 GMT"
   TIMET=`gdate -d "$DATE" +%s`

$TIMET will then contain the number 948413759.  You can get
the current time (int time_t format) like this:

   NOW=`date +%s`

This works both with GNU date and BSD date (but BSD date
doesn't support something like the -d option of GNU date
above, AFAIK).

Now it is easy to make claculations and comparisons with the
time_t values, using "awk" or "expr" or whatever you like,
e.g.:

   ONE_DAY=86400      #   24 * 60 * 60
   YESTERDAY=`expr $NOW - $ONE_DAY`
   if [ $TIMET -lt $YESTERDAY ]; then
           echo "previous backup is older than one day"
           ...
   fi

You get the idea.  :)

Regards
   Oliver

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Walter Brameld  writes:

> the word "meta". However, Jonathon's original question was
> "What is a meta-PORT?" and I also lacked this bit of
> knowledge, so I was interested in the reply. The other
> respondent provided the information that a meta-port is one
> that will install other ports that are required for it to
> function.

Just to be pedantic, this isn't exactly right.  *All* ports will
install the other ports ("dependencies") required for them to
function.  That's the *point* of the ports system.

A "meta-port" is one that doesn't install anything itself, but whose
usefulness consists *only* of dependencies.


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	i am trying to get a machine set up for work on Monday.

	Turns out the 1.2G dsk I brought home for this machien is bad. I put a
	20G I had in to allow me to continue, but I can't get the BIOS to see
	it well enough to allow me to bootfrom it (old 486 machine).

	Could someone please tell me how, or point me to docs, no building a
	boot floppy that will boot the kernel on the hard disk, and mount hte
	hard disk root partiton as /?

	I would _greatly_ appreciate som help on this. The FreBSD book did not
	give me any guidance on this.

	I know you can do this in Linux using LILO, surely we can do it to?

	Thanks.

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Tomas Edwardsson  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > I'm thinking of setting up a FreeBSD mirror which mirrors both FTP
 > and WWW here in Iceland. My questions are, how large is the FTP
 > site.

Right now, /pub/FreeBSD on ftp.freebsd.org is 28.531.170 Kbyte
(~ 28 Gbyte).

 > Also, do you have a rsyncd or another system for mirroring?

I don't think so.  On ftp7.de.freebsd.org we're using omi
(/usr/ports/ftp/omi) for mirroring.

Regards
   Oliver

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By the way, this problem doesn't appear while using boot disks from =
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Steve Price  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > Anyone know of a quick way to take a PostScript file
 > that is 1-up and turn it into a 4-up PostScript file
 > that I can print and save a few trees?

There are several tools for that.  The following are most
useful (I prefer pstops personally):

   pstops     performs general page rearrangement and selection
   psnup      put multiple pages per physical sheet of paper

These (and a lot mor) are part of the ``psutils'' package which
is in the ports collection in the ``print'' section.

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   Oliver

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I successfully installed FreeBSD 3-4 last night on my main
computer ... (completly getting rid of MS-DOS (win98) for good in my
house).  I'm very impressed with the install.  My two network cards were
detected and worked correctly right from the start.  Although I keep
getting these wierd messages in my log file.

$ uname -a
FreeBSD king.fake.net 3.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE #0: Tue Dec 28
22:18:05 GMT 1999     jkh@highwing.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC
i386

$ more /etc/hosts
127.0.0.1               localhost localhost.my.domain
192.168.0.3             king king.fake.net
192.168.0.4             king king.fake.net

$ifconfig -a
ed1: flags=8843 mtu 1500
        inet 192.168.0.3 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255
        ether 00:00:b4:98:22:38 
le0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
        inet 192.168.0.4 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255
        ether 00:00:f8:51:62:61 
lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384
        inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 


When I ping 192.168.0.4 from this box I get:
Jan 22 00:05:05 king /kernel: arp: 192.168.0.3 is on lo0 but got /
reply from 00:00:b4:98:22:38 on le0

When I ssh'd into 192.168.0.3 from 192.168.0.1 I get:
Jan 22 10:41:52 king /kernel: arp: 192.168.0.1 is on ed1 but got /
reply from 00:c0:df:ac:87:e7 on le0

When I ssh'd into 192.168.0.4 from 192.168.0.1 I get:
Jan 22 11:04:47 king /kernel: arp: 192.168.0.1 is on ed1 but got /
reply from 00:c0:df:ac:87:e7 on le0

Just wondering if this is normal... it's my first time with two network
cards in a FreeBSD box.

Thanks
Matt.



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Hello,

I tried to install the package gimp-1.1.11 under FreeBSD 3.4. It
requires tiff-3.5.3, which is absent in both ports and packages. With
tiff-3.5.4, which is present, gimp refuses to work. I would be grateful
for a piece of advice how to make gimp work on my system.

Please copy the answer to me.

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I've been getting the following message on bootup for as long as I can
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Jan 22 11:50:24 megaweapon portmap[143]: SIOCGIFADDR: Can't assign requested address

Yes, I've mergemastered, and I have lo0 in my interface list.  Is there
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On Sat, Jan 22, 2000 at 04:06:03PM +0100, Oliver Fromme wrote:
> Crist J. Clark  wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
>  > But since we're having so much fun with all of this, maybe I should
>  > try this one on all of you. Given Ben's code above, how would _you_
>  > determine how long ago $DATE was from the present time?
> 
> I'd first convert the date string to a time_t value.  The
> easiest way to accomplish that is probably to install GNU
> date:
> 
>    DATE="Fri 21 Jan 2000 00:15:59 GMT"
>    TIMET=`gdate -d "$DATE" +%s`
> 
> $TIMET will then contain the number 948413759.  You can get
> the current time (int time_t format) like this:
> 
>    NOW=`date +%s`
> 
> This works both with GNU date and BSD date (but BSD date
> doesn't support something like the -d option of GNU date
> above, AFAIK).

Yep, that was the catch. date(1) only converts a string to a time_t if
you are actually going to go and change the system
clock. Hmmm... Maybe a change-request PR on that one.

I had ended up writing a very small C helper program. Without all of
the error checks, this is all you need to do,

   strptime(argv[1],"%+",prevdump_tm);
   predump_t = mktime(prevdump_tm);
   return ( ( time(NULL) - predump_t ) > INTERVAL )

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On Sat, Jan 22, 2000 at 08:42:19PM +0600, Alexey N. Dokuchaev wrote:
> Hi all!
> 
> I've noticed rather strange behavior of my fBSD box.  I have mousesystems
> mouse on cuaa1, and in rc.i386, I can see:
> 
> # mouse daemon
> if [ "X${moused_enable}" = X"YES" ] ; then
>         echo -n ' moused'
>         moused ${moused_flags} -p ${moused_port} -t ${moused_type}
>         echo vidcontrol <${viddev} -m on >> /tmp/90
> fi
> 
> So, mouse is only enabled on ttyv0 by default.  To enable it on on all
> tty's, I added allscreens_flags "-m on 80x30".  Surprisingly, I now get
> all ttyv's in neat 80x30 mode, with mouse on all except ttyv0.  If I omit
> 80x30 (thus, allscreens_flags="-m on") everything works fine (default
> 80x25 mode and mouse on _all_ ttys).
> 
> Is this some kinda bug?  It's easy to get everything working; but it not
> the way it's suppose to be anyways, IMHO.
> 

What version of FreeBSD are you running? I had exactly the
same thing happen a while back, the mouse was on all ttyv's *except*
0. I have (and always have had) ``allscreens_flags="-m on 80x30"'' set.

I never looked into the cause, but it suddenly started working again
properly. Since I track -stable I assume that it was a bug that got
fixed so the problem went away after a make world. I can't be sure,
but that seems to be the most likely explanation.


> ./danfe
> 
> 
> 
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Ahmed, 

How did you initially get your network connection working? Did you use
ifconfig at the console, or have you put relevant information in your
/etc/rc.conf.

If you haven't and you are new to FreeBSD, then you may want to
/stand/sysinstall   Configure->Networking and go from there...

Mike

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Subject: Missing network conection


Dear all,
I installed FreeBSD 3.4 and appache 1.3.9. I connected to the network with a

static IP and I tried the web server from another machine. Every thing is 
OK.

The probles is, when I shutdown my computer and switch the power off then 
open it again, I lose the connection with the network.

I am new to FreeBSD and Unix enviroment, and I would appreciate your 
support.

Thanks
Ahmed Abd El-Aziz Khudre
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RE: Missing network conection




Ahmed, 




How did you initially get your network connection =
working? Did you use ifconfig at the console, or have you put relevant =
information in your /etc/rc.conf.



If you haven't and you are new to FreeBSD, then you =
may want to /stand/sysinstall   Configure->Networking and =
go from there...



Mike




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Subject: Missing network conection






Dear all,

I installed FreeBSD 3.4 and appache 1.3.9. I =
connected to the network with a 

static IP and I tried the web server from another =
machine. Every thing is 

OK.




The probles is, when I shutdown my computer and =
switch the power off then 

open it again, I lose the connection with the =
network.




I am new to FreeBSD and Unix enviroment, and I would =
appreciate your 

support.




Thanks

Ahmed Abd El-Aziz Khudre

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Hi all,

I've just got rid of sendmail and slapped Exim onto my FreeBSD box. It seems
to work fine except for this which keeps creeping up in my exim_mainlog

2000-01-20 12:48:11 socket bind() to port 25 for address (any) failed:
Address already in use: waiting b
efore trying again
2000-01-20 12:48:12 socket bind() to port 25 for address (any) failed:
Address already in use: waiting b
bash-2.03# 

The weird thing is, it pops up intermittantly throughout the log, but each
time it appears there are 4 or 5 occurunces of it, then its business as
usual. I've removed /usr/sbin/sendmail and replaced it with a symlink to
/usr/local/bin/exim so I dunno!

Cheers

Mike

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Exim Socket Bind Problem




Hi all,




I've just got rid of sendmail and =
slapped Exim onto my FreeBSD box. It seems to work fine except for this =
which keeps creeping up in my exim_mainlog



2000-01-20 12:48:11 socket bind() to =
port 25 for address (any) failed: Address already in use: waiting =
b

efore trying again

2000-01-20 12:48:12 socket bind() to =
port 25 for address (any) failed: Address already in use: waiting =
b

bash-2.03# 




The weird thing is, it pops up =
intermittantly throughout the log, but each time it appears there are 4 =
or 5 occurunces of it, then its business as usual. I've removed =
/usr/sbin/sendmail and replaced it with a symlink to =
/usr/local/bin/exim so I dunno!



Cheers




Mike





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I want to *downgrade* the linux_base port from the current 6.1 to 5.2
as StarOffice doesn't run with 6.1.

What is the correct way to do this?

I used the CVS repository to get a diff between versions 1.36 and 1.34
of the Makefile and applied it with ``patch -R''. This worked fine, so
I now have the correct Makefile, but how do I know which versions of
all the files in the files/ and pkg/ sub-directories I need to work
with this particular Makefile. The version numbers obviously aren't
the same as those of the Makefile.

ISTR that one of the great things about the CVS system is that you can
use it to get *any* version of the source that you want, but I just
don't know how to do it.

Thanks.

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Is there some reason that sysinstall won't allow my drives to be
installed?
It's a 30 Gig raid-0 all as one large volume. I go into the slice editor,
create a slice. Write it and it writes to disk just fine. Then I go into
the disklabel editor and create it as a single partition. Write it to disk
and it tells me it can't. I switch to another term to see the syslog error
output and it says " invalid major/minor for dev type - ".
The OS drive is running fine, just can't get anything else to run. This is
on a DPT 3334UW with seagate drives.  The odd thing is that if I just
backout of sysinstall and rerun the disklabel editor, it errors to the
other tty's but does create the file system and works fine for about 2
days before losing the entire file system.  I'd love to hear some idea's
on this. Possibly one of the kernel options for DPT? Maybe bus frequency
on the DPT? Running out of options to look at as a cause.
BTW. It does this regardless of the array type, -5 does the same as the
-0.
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Is there a difference between a reboot using the 'reboot' (or shutdown -r)
command, and one using the ctrl-alt-delete key combination? I find that
ctrl-alt-delete always seems to shutdown faster than 'reboot'...

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Greetings:

I am trying to rebuild my 3.1 kernel on a desktop pc.

I did a make depend and then a make sevaral times.

Make invarialbly fails with:
rm -f hack.c
cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit
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make: don't know how to make ../../sys/param.h. Stop

My reading of the handbook lead me to believe that I may have made some
errors in editing the kernel configuration file.

I tried reducing the number of changes, and finally tried building from
GENERIC with the same result:
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They are not identical.

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Hi Mark,

This is how I did it, first "cd /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base" and "make
deinstall", then replace the "/usr/ports/emulators/linux_base" directory
with the one which has the 5.2 version in it, then make & make install.

Have Fun...
Ales

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> I want to *downgrade* the linux_base port from the current 6.1 to 5.2
> as StarOffice doesn't run with 6.1.
>
> What is the correct way to do this?
>
> I used the CVS repository to get a diff between versions 1.36 and 1.34
> of the Makefile and applied it with ``patch -R''. This worked fine, so
> I now have the correct Makefile, but how do I know which versions of
> all the files in the files/ and pkg/ sub-directories I need to work
> with this particular Makefile. The version numbers obviously aren't
> the same as those of the Makefile.
>
> ISTR that one of the great things about the CVS system is that you can
> use it to get *any* version of the source that you want, but I just
> don't know how to do it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> "there's a long-standing bug relating to the x86 architecture
> that allows you to install Windows too"
>    -Matthew D. Fuller
> ________________________________________________________________
>       FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org
>       My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/
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I don't think there is a difference in the proccess that gets
executed, but if I telnet to another machine, and I use shutdown -r
now, the other machine would reboot, but if I press ctrl-alt-del, my
machine would reboot. That's the main differnce, afaik.

--
Oren Sarig
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Martin Gignac wrote:
> 
> Is there a difference between a reboot using the 'reboot' (or shutdown -r)
> command, and one using the ctrl-alt-delete key combination? I find that
> ctrl-alt-delete always seems to shutdown faster than 'reboot'...
> 
> -Martin
> 
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On Sat, Jan 22, 2000 at 12:34:32PM -0600, Alejandro Ramirez wrote:
> Hi Mark,
> 
> This is how I did it, first "cd /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base" and "make
> deinstall", then replace the "/usr/ports/emulators/linux_base" directory
> with the one which has the 5.2 version in it, then make & make install.
> 

Yes, but where did you find the directory with the 5.2 version?

> Have Fun...
> Ales
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark Ovens 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 11:37 AM
> Subject: How to downgrade a port?
> 
> 
> > I want to *downgrade* the linux_base port from the current 6.1 to 5.2
> > as StarOffice doesn't run with 6.1.
> >
> > What is the correct way to do this?
> >
> > I used the CVS repository to get a diff between versions 1.36 and 1.34
> > of the Makefile and applied it with ``patch -R''. This worked fine, so
> > I now have the correct Makefile, but how do I know which versions of
> > all the files in the files/ and pkg/ sub-directories I need to work
> > with this particular Makefile. The version numbers obviously aren't
> > the same as those of the Makefile.
> >
> > ISTR that one of the great things about the CVS system is that you can
> > use it to get *any* version of the source that you want, but I just
> > don't know how to do it.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --
> > "there's a long-standing bug relating to the x86 architecture
> > that allows you to install Windows too"
> >    -Matthew D. Fuller
> > ________________________________________________________________
> >       FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org
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Oh no... I hope you guys aren't all pressing ctrl-alt-delete because it's
faster!

When you do a ctrl-alt-delete, your drives aren't being unmounted properly.
The program fsck (File System Consistency Check) will find that the drives
weren't properly unmounted and therefore it will scan each partition of
every drive for errors.  It will then reboot your computer in order to
properly re-mount the drives.

I did a ctrl-alt-delete once and had to wait 20 minutes before my system was
functional again.  (tip:  not good for business)

Stick to reboot and you'll have less trouble in the future.

-David Fuchs

----- Original Message -----
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To: Martin Gignac 
Cc: 
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 10:43
Subject: Re: Is there a difference between 'reboot' command and
ctrl-alt-del?


> I don't think there is a difference in the proccess that gets
> executed, but if I telnet to another machine, and I use shutdown -r
> now, the other machine would reboot, but if I press ctrl-alt-del, my
> machine would reboot. That's the main differnce, afaik.
>
> --
> Oren Sarig
> sarig@bezeqint.net.il
>
> Martin Gignac wrote:
> >
> > Is there a difference between a reboot using the 'reboot' (or
shutdown -r)
> > command, and one using the ctrl-alt-delete key combination? I find that
> > ctrl-alt-delete always seems to shutdown faster than 'reboot'...
> >
> > -Martin
> >
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Actually, ctrl+alt+del in syscons does a drive sync, and shuts down
all proccesses etc. just like shutdown does, and fsck doesn't scan the
drives at boot time.

--
Oren Sarig
sarig@bezeqint.net.il

David Fuchs wrote:
> 
> Oh no... I hope you guys aren't all pressing ctrl-alt-delete because it's
> faster!
> 
> When you do a ctrl-alt-delete, your drives aren't being unmounted properly.
> The program fsck (File System Consistency Check) will find that the drives
> weren't properly unmounted and therefore it will scan each partition of
> every drive for errors.  It will then reboot your computer in order to
> properly re-mount the drives.
> 
> I did a ctrl-alt-delete once and had to wait 20 minutes before my system was
> functional again.  (tip:  not good for business)
> 
> Stick to reboot and you'll have less trouble in the future.
> 
> -David Fuchs
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Oren Sarig 
> To: Martin Gignac 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 10:43
> Subject: Re: Is there a difference between 'reboot' command and
> ctrl-alt-del?
> 
> > I don't think there is a difference in the proccess that gets
> > executed, but if I telnet to another machine, and I use shutdown -r
> > now, the other machine would reboot, but if I press ctrl-alt-del, my
> > machine would reboot. That's the main differnce, afaik.
> >
> > --
> > Oren Sarig
> > sarig@bezeqint.net.il
> >
> > Martin Gignac wrote:
> > >
> > > Is there a difference between a reboot using the 'reboot' (or
> shutdown -r)
> > > command, and one using the ctrl-alt-delete key combination? I find that
> > > ctrl-alt-delete always seems to shutdown faster than 'reboot'...
> > >
> > > -Martin
> > >
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Not that I know of.

--
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David Fuchs wrote:
> 
> Really... well it didn't do it for me.  Am I supposed to configure it
> seperately?
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Oren Sarig 
> To: David Fuchs 
> Cc: Martin Gignac ; 
> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 11:08
> Subject: Re: Is there a difference between 'reboot' command and
> ctrl-alt-del?
> 
> > Actually, ctrl+alt+del in syscons does a drive sync, and shuts down
> > all proccesses etc. just like shutdown does, and fsck doesn't scan the
> > drives at boot time.
> >
> > --
> > Oren Sarig
> > sarig@bezeqint.net.il
> >
> > David Fuchs wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh no... I hope you guys aren't all pressing ctrl-alt-delete because
> it's
> > > faster!
> > >
> > > When you do a ctrl-alt-delete, your drives aren't being unmounted
> properly.
> > > The program fsck (File System Consistency Check) will find that the
> drives
> > > weren't properly unmounted and therefore it will scan each partition of
> > > every drive for errors.  It will then reboot your computer in order to
> > > properly re-mount the drives.
> > >
> > > I did a ctrl-alt-delete once and had to wait 20 minutes before my system
> was
> > > functional again.  (tip:  not good for business)
> > >
> > > Stick to reboot and you'll have less trouble in the future.
> > >
> > > -David Fuchs
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Oren Sarig 
> > > To: Martin Gignac 
> > > Cc: 
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 10:43
> > > Subject: Re: Is there a difference between 'reboot' command and
> > > ctrl-alt-del?
> > >
> > > > I don't think there is a difference in the proccess that gets
> > > > executed, but if I telnet to another machine, and I use shutdown -r
> > > > now, the other machine would reboot, but if I press ctrl-alt-del, my
> > > > machine would reboot. That's the main differnce, afaik.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Oren Sarig
> > > > sarig@bezeqint.net.il
> > > >
> > > > Martin Gignac wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there a difference between a reboot using the 'reboot' (or
> > > shutdown -r)
> > > > > command, and one using the ctrl-alt-delete key combination? I find
> that
> > > > > ctrl-alt-delete always seems to shutdown faster than 'reboot'...
> > > > >
> > > > > -Martin
> > > > >
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Really... well it didn't do it for me.  Am I supposed to configure it
seperately?

----- Original Message -----
From: Oren Sarig 
To: David Fuchs 
Cc: Martin Gignac ; 
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 11:08
Subject: Re: Is there a difference between 'reboot' command and
ctrl-alt-del?


> Actually, ctrl+alt+del in syscons does a drive sync, and shuts down
> all proccesses etc. just like shutdown does, and fsck doesn't scan the
> drives at boot time.
>
> --
> Oren Sarig
> sarig@bezeqint.net.il
>
> David Fuchs wrote:
> >
> > Oh no... I hope you guys aren't all pressing ctrl-alt-delete because
it's
> > faster!
> >
> > When you do a ctrl-alt-delete, your drives aren't being unmounted
properly.
> > The program fsck (File System Consistency Check) will find that the
drives
> > weren't properly unmounted and therefore it will scan each partition of
> > every drive for errors.  It will then reboot your computer in order to
> > properly re-mount the drives.
> >
> > I did a ctrl-alt-delete once and had to wait 20 minutes before my system
was
> > functional again.  (tip:  not good for business)
> >
> > Stick to reboot and you'll have less trouble in the future.
> >
> > -David Fuchs
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Oren Sarig 
> > To: Martin Gignac 
> > Cc: 
> > Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 10:43
> > Subject: Re: Is there a difference between 'reboot' command and
> > ctrl-alt-del?
> >
> > > I don't think there is a difference in the proccess that gets
> > > executed, but if I telnet to another machine, and I use shutdown -r
> > > now, the other machine would reboot, but if I press ctrl-alt-del, my
> > > machine would reboot. That's the main differnce, afaik.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Oren Sarig
> > > sarig@bezeqint.net.il
> > >
> > > Martin Gignac wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Is there a difference between a reboot using the 'reboot' (or
> > shutdown -r)
> > > > command, and one using the ctrl-alt-delete key combination? I find
that
> > > > ctrl-alt-delete always seems to shutdown faster than 'reboot'...
> > > >
> > > > -Martin
> > > >
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aha! maybe he has one of those older machines
that need the "broken keyboard reset" in his
kernel?



On 22-Jan-00 Oren Sarig wrote:
> Not that I know of.
> 
> --
> Oren Sarig
> sarig@bezeqint.net.il
> 
> David Fuchs wrote:
>> 
>> Really... well it didn't do it for me.  Am I supposed to configure it
>> seperately?
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Oren Sarig 
>> To: David Fuchs 
>> Cc: Martin Gignac ; 
>> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 11:08
>> Subject: Re: Is there a difference between 'reboot' command and
>> ctrl-alt-del?
>> 
>> > Actually, ctrl+alt+del in syscons does a drive sync, and shuts down
>> > all proccesses etc. just like shutdown does, and fsck doesn't scan the
>> > drives at boot time.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Oren Sarig
>> > sarig@bezeqint.net.il
>> >
>> > David Fuchs wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Oh no... I hope you guys aren't all pressing ctrl-alt-delete because
>> it's
>> > > faster!
>> > >
>> > > When you do a ctrl-alt-delete, your drives aren't being unmounted
>> properly.
>> > > The program fsck (File System Consistency Check) will find that the
>> drives
>> > > weren't properly unmounted and therefore it will scan each partition of
>> > > every drive for errors.  It will then reboot your computer in order to
>> > > properly re-mount the drives.
>> > >
>> > > I did a ctrl-alt-delete once and had to wait 20 minutes before my system
>> was
>> > > functional again.  (tip:  not good for business)
>> > >
>> > > Stick to reboot and you'll have less trouble in the future.
>> > >
>> > > -David Fuchs
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: Oren Sarig 
>> > > To: Martin Gignac 
>> > > Cc: 
>> > > Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 10:43
>> > > Subject: Re: Is there a difference between 'reboot' command and
>> > > ctrl-alt-del?
>> > >
>> > > > I don't think there is a difference in the proccess that gets
>> > > > executed, but if I telnet to another machine, and I use shutdown -r
>> > > > now, the other machine would reboot, but if I press ctrl-alt-del, my
>> > > > machine would reboot. That's the main differnce, afaik.
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Oren Sarig
>> > > > sarig@bezeqint.net.il
>> > > >
>> > > > Martin Gignac wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Is there a difference between a reboot using the 'reboot' (or
>> > > shutdown -r)
>> > > > > command, and one using the ctrl-alt-delete key combination? I find
>> that
>> > > > > ctrl-alt-delete always seems to shutdown faster than 'reboot'...
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -Martin
>> > > > >
>> > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
>> > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
>> > > >
>> > > >
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Does anyone know what these could mean?
Also when I try to use my scsi tape drive, "dump" starts dumping, and then
stops in couple of seconds, and I can't even "kill -9" that dump process.



Jan 22 15:31:03 mybox /kernel: (probe4:ahc0:0:4:0): SCB 0xa - timed out in
datain phase,
 SEQADDR == 0x110 
Jan 22 15:31:03 mybox /kernel: (probe4:ahc0:0:4:0): BDR message in message
buffer 
Jan 22 15:31:03 mybox /kernel: (probe4:ahc0:0:4:0): data overrun detected
in Data-In pha
se.  Tag == 0xa. 
Jan 22 15:31:03 mybox /kernel: (probe4:ahc0:0:4:0): Have seen Data Phase.
Length = 255.
  NumSGs = 1. 
Jan 22 15:31:03 mybox /kernel: (probe4:ahc0:0:4:0): no longer in timeout,
status = 352 
Jan 22 15:31:03 mybox /kernel: (probe4:ahc0:0:4:0): SCB 0xa - timed out in
datain phase,
 SEQADDR == 0x110 
Jan 22 15:31:03 mybox /kernel: (probe4:ahc0:0:4:0): BDR message in message
buffer 
Jan 22 15:31:03 mybox /kernel: (probe4:ahc0:0:4:0): data overrun detected
in Data-In pha
se.  Tag == 0xa. 
Jan 22 15:31:03 mybox /kernel: (probe4:ahc0:0:4:0): Have seen Data Phase.
Length = 255.
  NumSGs = 1. 
Jan 22 15:31:03 mybox /kernel: (probe4:ahc0:0:4:0): no longer in timeout,
status = 352 
Jan 22 15:31:03 mybox /kernel: sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 
Jan 22 15:31:03 mybox /kernel: sa0:  Removable
Sequential Access 
SCSI-2 device 
Jan 22 15:31:03 mybox /kernel: sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz,
offset 15) 
 

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FWIW, I've been told by at least one 'greybeard' that using shutdown and
reboot is a bad habit to get into, because on many other OS's, they
don't do a clean shutdown. I always use shutdown -(h|r) now (well,
except on my vinum box which seems to lock up with anything other than
halt :( ). Also, unless you honest-to-God really need to reboot
(basically, if you've changed the kernel), you can usually just do a
shutdown now, hit return when it asks for a shell, and type exit. That
will re-run almost all of the rc processes.

Oren Sarig wrote:
> 
> Actually, ctrl+alt+del in syscons does a drive sync, and shuts down
> all proccesses etc. just like shutdown does, and fsck doesn't scan the
> drives at boot time.
> 
> --
> Oren Sarig
> sarig@bezeqint.net.il
> 

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On Sat, Jan 22, 2000 at 11:09:13AM -0500, Matt Gostick wrote:
> I successfully installed FreeBSD 3-4 last night on my main
> computer ... (completly getting rid of MS-DOS (win98) for good in my
> house).  I'm very impressed with the install.  My two network cards were
> detected and worked correctly right from the start.  Although I keep
> getting these wierd messages in my log file.
> 
> $ uname -a
> FreeBSD king.fake.net 3.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE #0: Tue Dec 28
> 22:18:05 GMT 1999     jkh@highwing.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC
> i386
> 
> $ more /etc/hosts
> 127.0.0.1               localhost localhost.my.domain
> 192.168.0.3             king king.fake.net
> 192.168.0.4             king king.fake.net
> 
> $ifconfig -a
> ed1: flags=8843 mtu 1500
>         inet 192.168.0.3 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255
>         ether 00:00:b4:98:22:38 
> le0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
>         inet 192.168.0.4 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255
>         ether 00:00:f8:51:62:61 
> lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384
>         inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 
> 
> 
> When I ping 192.168.0.4 from this box I get:
> Jan 22 00:05:05 king /kernel: arp: 192.168.0.3 is on lo0 but got /
> reply from 00:00:b4:98:22:38 on le0
> 
> When I ssh'd into 192.168.0.3 from 192.168.0.1 I get:
> Jan 22 10:41:52 king /kernel: arp: 192.168.0.1 is on ed1 but got /
> reply from 00:c0:df:ac:87:e7 on le0
> 
> When I ssh'd into 192.168.0.4 from 192.168.0.1 I get:
> Jan 22 11:04:47 king /kernel: arp: 192.168.0.1 is on ed1 but got /
> reply from 00:c0:df:ac:87:e7 on le0
> 
> Just wondering if this is normal... it's my first time with two network
> cards in a FreeBSD box.

Looks like you have two problems here.

  1) You seem to have two NICs on the same logical network.

  2) You seem to have two NICs on the same physical network.

Problem (1) is clear from the ifconfig(8) output. The entries you have
should be confusing the heck out of your computer. When you ssh to
192.168.0.1, how is the computer to decide which interface to use?
According to your ifconfig output, _both_ interfaces connect to that
address. Which is it to use?

Given problem (1) and seeing the error messages you get, I am willing
to bet you have both NICs on one wire. The short answer to that is,
don't do that. Two NICs from one host on the same wire will only
reduce your network performance, and as those error messages show, it
confuses some of the kernel's networking.

What you probably should have is one NIC on the network and have the
second IP aliased to it. From the command line,

  # ifconfig le0 inet 192.168.0.3
  # ifconfig le0 inet 192.168.0.4 netmask 0xffffffff

And in rc.conf,

  ifconfig_le0="inet 192.168.0.3"
  ifconfig_le0_alias0="inet 192.168.0.4 netmask 0xffffffff"

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Hi folks,
I want to set up something like an automatic mail filter. Let me describe=

the situation to you:

I have a ctach-all eMail adress, so everything set to
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il
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Any ideas with which software and/or setup I can aceive this?

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I'm having trouble with my Samba server whenever I log in to my FreeBSD =
box via my Windows 98 Network Neighborhood.  If I restart my windows box =
with the connection still open, I can't log back in to my FreeBSD box =
via network neighborhood because the previous process was still open.  =
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Anyone had any success with this?  I'm trying to redirect packets from
the outside world to a machine on my inside world.

I've tried this (And a few permutations of this)

rdr de0 0/32 port ftp 192.196.1.2 port ftp

When I ftp to the outside interface on this machine I end up at this
machine and I'm supposed to end up at the 192.196.1.2 machine -
conclusion:  IPNAT isn't working properly (Or I'm not doing something
properly).

Either way I'm open to suggestions at this point.





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Hello,

I installed vim from the ports collection but when I try to start it I
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/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libXext.so.6" not found

when I try to start emacs, also installed from ports collection, I get
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I realize this could be just a s well posted o current, but here it is:

I'm installing the 1-18 version of current on a inspiron 3200 w/ a 3com
574-tx e-net adaptor.  On boot from the install disks, the kernel found
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where I can do an ftp install with it.  Do I need PAO???

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On 22/01 16:05, Nils Holland wrote:

> Fetchmail reads all the messages and forwards them to ONE user on
> the local system.  Now I'd like to have something that filters the
> messages and then distributes them to local users.
> ...
> Any ideas with which software and/or setup I can aceive this?

procmail.

      http://www.procmail.org
  or cd /usr/ports/mail/procmail && make install


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> Dear Mr. Bartolotta,

> I commend you on giving a very comprehensive explanation of
> the word "meta". However, Jonathon's original question was
> "What is a meta-PORT?" and I also lacked this bit of
> knowledge, so I was interested in the reply. The other
> respondent provided the information that a meta-port is one
> that will install other ports that are required for it to
> function. Using rules of theory, or perhaps even Occam's
> razor I felt that was the more definitive explanation. If
> failing to glean this information from your response was due
> to a lack of intelligence on my part, please do not take
> umbrage. I do have many short-comings.

> Yours sincerely,
> Walter Brameld


Dear Mr Brameld,

thank you very much for clarifying.

Yesterday, Mr Darren Wiebe gave an almost complete answer to your
question in a letter of his ("Re: metaports"). He only left a
little particular understood: a metaport does not install anything
"per se"; it only manages sub-ports, or, if you prefer, dependencies.
It simply acts as a sort of supervisor with respect to the related
subports.

Let us listen to what e.g. Mr KDE-1.1.2 metaport has to tell us:

=3D=3D KDE provides an integrated X11 based environment, much like CDE.

=3D=3D This package does not contain anything by itself -- it is a
=3D=3D "meta-port" that depends on other KDE packages. Its sole purpose =
is
=3D=3D to require dependencies so users can install this package only an=
d
=3D=3D have all the KDE stuff pulled in by the port/package dependency
=3D=3D mechanism.

(Cf /usr/ports/x11/kde11/pkg/DESCR)

If you look at its PLIST, you will find that it is intentionally left
empty; moreover, it will remain such after you have "installed" the
metaport. By the way, I have KDE-1.1.2 up and running.

If you should "install" such a metaport, you would also notice
that the .PLIST.mktmp, which is found in the related .../work
directory, was left empty.

Further, and more significantly, my KDE-1.1.2 metaport .../work
directory contains no *.h or *.c files, no other source-related files
at large, and no subdirectories; only .PLIST.mktmp and the *.done
files are present.

The same applies to my Gnome metaport.



In the handbook, a few details on this subject are dealt with at some
lenght. However, the definitive "splitting hairs" exact response to
your question is provided by the metaport Makefiles and, especially,=20
by
bsd.port.mk. The latter, which is found in /usr/ports/Mk, expounds
the ports mechanisms exhaustively.

I hope that this information will be of help.

Please note: my_fake_antispam_domain =3D=3D=3D> neomedia.it to e-mail to=
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Yours sincerely
Salvo Bartolotta





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I have a host acting as a Router. While data is being routed from one
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 routed: Send bcast sendto(ep0, 128.133.143.255,520): No buffer space
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What is the remedy for such a situation ? where in the file system, does
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To: Alex Charalabidis 
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Subject: Re: telnet client for win95/98 
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> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 07:34:14 -0600 (CST)
> From: Alex Charalabidis 
> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> 
> [insert obligatory Telnet-Is-Evil-Use-SSH lecture]
> 
> TeraTerm is as good as it gets when it comes to freeware for the purpose.
> It does support ssh1 with an extension that I found to be really messy and
> wouldn't consider an option but it's all you'll get for free. SecureCRT if
> you're in North America.

I don't see what you are referring to by calling it "messy". You
install the plug-in and you get an added selection of SSH in the
connection dialog. Select it and connect and you get a screen asking
for you pass phrase and the location of the identity file. (The
location of the identity file is normally saved so it need be entered
only one.)

For a standard connection, I click the TeraTerm icon, hit a return to
connect, enter my pass phrase, and I'm in. I can't see that as
messy. Forwards my X traffic over the ssh tunnel as well.

I've tried SecureCRT and it's quite nice, too, but I don't think the
SSH1 integration is any better than that in TeraTerm.

What was weak (although I believe it's now better) was the
documentation.  Simply put, drop the ttssh files into the TeraTerm
folder and set the environment variable TERATERM_EXTENSIONS to 1 in
the place appropriate to your OS.

R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
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Just adding my 0.02 cents worth on the reliability of the Jaz disks.

=46rom personal experience of these devices on several thousand servers
the failure rate of the disks is *phenominal*.=20

These are an incredibly flakey device and I would suggest that unless
you intend to run the machine in a clean environment (like the Intel
Plant in Leixlip!) don't do this to yourself.

It's not really a case of if the device fails more a case of when.

Added to this is the upgrade path Iomega have. The older 1 Gig disks
are no longer being created and it is not possible to use the newer 2
Gig disks in the older device. The new device will not allow low level
formatting of the older 1 Gig disks... Not a company with a "the
customer is king" philosophy. *smile*

If you really want "removable" buy a removable cady for hot swapable
SCSI disks and a few low capacity SCSI disks. Given how expensive the
media for the Jaz is it will not really make all that much difference
cost-wise.

Even better, forget the "hot" and buy a removable cady for IDE disks.
=46or the cost of 3 X 1 Gig Jaz disks you can buy a 18Gig quantum HD.
*shrug*

regards,
Ian


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On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 07:34:14 -0600 (CST), you wrote:


>[insert obligatory Telnet-Is-Evil-Use-SSH lecture]
>
>TeraTerm is as good as it gets when it comes to freeware for the =
purpose.
>It does support ssh1 with an extension that I found to be really messy =
and
>wouldn't consider an option but it's all you'll get for free. SecureCRT =
if
>you're in North America.
>
>> --=20
>
>Please don't use sigdashes if you're going to quote everything relevant
>beneath them.
>
>-ac=20

In what way "really messy". I use the SSH component and the only
whinge I have about it is the lack of an authentication agent. Though
with a FreeBSD Box sitting in the background it's possible to have it
run the authentication agent I guess.=20

It's a bit of a pain to have to keep typing the passphrase but that's
the price of security.

regards,
Ian


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Has anyone managed to do this/is it possible.=20

LIke the WinTV2000 application where the application switches screen
resolution and effectively turns the monitor into a tv.

So far every time I try to do this with FXTV there are still parts of
the screen displaying the X system desktop around the edges of the TV
screen. A minor gripe but it makes rather a big difference to the
overall effect.

regards,
Ian


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if your using an isa scsi card make sure that you have
the irq and dma assigned to legasy/isa in your bios
setup.

i get all sorts of timeout errors when i set mine
to PNP.


On 22-Jan-00 Oleg Ogurok wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know what these could mean?
> Also when I try to use my scsi tape drive, "dump" starts dumping, and then
> stops in couple of seconds, and I can't even "kill -9" that dump process.
> 
> 
> 
> Jan 22 15:31:03 mybox /kernel: (probe4:ahc0:0:4:0): SCB 0xa - timed out in
> datain phase,
>  SEQADDR == 0x110 
> Jan 22 15:31:03 mybox /kernel: (probe4:ahc0:0:4:0): BDR message in message
> buffer 
> Jan 22 15:31:03 mybox /kernel: (probe4:ahc0:0:4:0): data overrun detected
> in Data-In pha
> se.  Tag == 0xa. 
> Jan 22 15:31:03 mybox /kernel: (probe4:ahc0:0:4:0): Have seen Data Phase.
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>   NumSGs = 1. 
> Jan 22 15:31:03 mybox /kernel: (probe4:ahc0:0:4:0): no longer in timeout,
> status = 352 
> Jan 22 15:31:03 mybox /kernel: (probe4:ahc0:0:4:0): SCB 0xa - timed out in
> datain phase,
>  SEQADDR == 0x110 
> Jan 22 15:31:03 mybox /kernel: (probe4:ahc0:0:4:0): BDR message in message
> buffer 
> Jan 22 15:31:03 mybox /kernel: (probe4:ahc0:0:4:0): data overrun detected
> in Data-In pha
> se.  Tag == 0xa. 
> Jan 22 15:31:03 mybox /kernel: (probe4:ahc0:0:4:0): Have seen Data Phase.
> Length = 255.
>   NumSGs = 1. 
> Jan 22 15:31:03 mybox /kernel: (probe4:ahc0:0:4:0): no longer in timeout,
> status = 352 
> Jan 22 15:31:03 mybox /kernel: sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 
> Jan 22 15:31:03 mybox /kernel: sa0:  Removable
> Sequential Access 
> SCSI-2 device 
> Jan 22 15:31:03 mybox /kernel: sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz,
> offset 15) 
>  
> 
> Oleg Ogurok
> oleg@ogurok.com
> http://www.ogurok.com
> For PGP Public Key go to http://www.ogurok.com/pgpkey.txt
> 
> 
> 
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Salvo Bartolotta wrote:

> Dear Mr Brameld,
> 
> thank you very much for clarifying.
> 
Thank you. That was an excellent reply which allowed me to
nail down the concept solidly. As you could see from my last
post, I still did not understand the meaning of a
'meta-port'. That has now been rectified.
Looking forward to hearing from you in the future,

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On 01/22/2000 6:38:41 AM, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

>On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, James A Wilde wrote:
>
>>Thoughts, yes!
>>
>>I asked nearly the same question a few months ago.  The conclusion I came to
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>
>Well, i think i have to agree with you.  I installed vim last night,
>and a friend gave me a few lines for the config file... I now have
>color context highlighting, c indentation, and more!  I love this
>editor!  Small, fast, (not like emacs) like you said, on every
>machine....  The color looks great, the commands are very powerful and
>efficient.  I really picked up the basics fast.  I think i've
>decided... :-)
>
>-=> jm <=-
Will vi syntax highlighting work in console mode? If so, would you consider sending 
me a copy of that ``config'' file your friend provided? It sure would make working 
with my ``php3'' stuff more in line with what I've been used to on win9x. TIA...

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Hi,

I'm trying to set up a little modem pool with which I would like to
get 56k speeds.  I have a couple of USR/3com Courier V.Everything
modems that are capable of 56k connectivity.

However, when asked how to reverse the builtin asymmetry in the modem
(outgoing 33k, incoming 56k) the 3com tech support guy said that I had
to go to ISDN modems with funny digital lines and the whole deal.

Does someone know what's going on here (or know of a pointer to that
kind of information)?  I just don't understand what the issues are,
and I'm going to need to understand these to buy new modems, phone
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recommendations about ISDN modems?  Any gotchas doing this stuff with
FreeBSD?

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On Sat, Jan 22, 2000 at 01:40:41PM -0600, Suresh Kumar Satapati wrote:

> Do i have to do some router configuration to obtain a good
> throughput?

A lot of things can affect throughput and performance.  For instance
running ipfw witha huge list of rules is not the best thing to do. 
Even that, however, should not be the cause of a dramatic throughput
decrease.

Have you tried enabling net.inet.ip.fastforwarding with sysctl?

	sysctl -w net.inet.ip.fastforwarding=1

I don't know if it should make a huge differece, but it's name seems to
be quite a temptation to me a long time now.

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Duke Normandin wrote:

> Will vi syntax highlighting work in console mode? If so, would you
> consider sending me a copy of that ``config'' file your friend
> provided? It sure would make working with my ``php3'' stuff more in
> line with what I've been used to on win9x. TIA...

yeah, it should. All you should need to do is,

$ echo syntax on >> ~/.vimrc

to get started. (This assumes you're using vim -- the vi in FreeBSD's
base system (nvi) doesn't support syntax highlighting.)

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Soren Dayton  wrote in message
news:86u2k5io06.fsf@polo.overx.com...
> The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
> that has been posted to uchi.comp.unix as well.
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to set up a little modem pool with which I would like to
> get 56k speeds.  I have a couple of USR/3com Courier V.Everything
> modems that are capable of 56k connectivity.

Provided you have a clean Analog phone line, local circuit loop from your
location to the Public Telephone Network Switch (PTNS)
>
> However, when asked how to reverse the builtin asymmetry in the modem
> (outgoing 33k, incoming 56k) the 3com tech support guy said that I had
> to go to ISDN modems with funny digital lines and the whole deal.

He is right. This is just Analog phone line limitations. in matter of fact
you can not achieve anything higher that 53KBPS (incoming) due to FCC
regulations on Analog phone lines.

> Does someone know what's going on here (or know of a pointer to that
> kind of information)?  I just don't understand what the issues are,
> and I'm going to need to understand these to buy new modems, phone
> lines, etc.

Unfortunately there is nothing that you can do about it except calling the
phone company and complain about noise so they can dispatch a technician to
check the wiring in your location at least. Remote testing based on Signal
to Noise ratios are not that accurate anyway. There might be wiring problems
in your location that a phone tech can determine (like a cross-over
wiring-Phone guys know this better that I do?). If everything is OK then you
are basically limited and need to switch to a different Technology such as
ISDN, XDSL, Cable,...etc.

>If I need to get new modems, does anyone have
> recommendations about ISDN modems?  Any gotchas doing this stuff with
> FreeBSD?
I think 3COM (US Robotics) do produce good ISDN Modems check their web site
for more details. Have I installed such a modem in FreeBSD? not really so I
can not tell you any experience in that field, but it is a PPP connection in
principle and what you need is a proper configuration in ppp.conf reflecting
PPP support over ISDN. Also in FreeBSD 3.4, there are additional Kernel
support for various ISDN cards. I would strongly recommend reading the
Release notes of your FreeBSD Distribution and above all the valuable Online
Handbook. Hopefully that helps.
>
> Thanks,
> Soren
>
>
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To: "Majid Almassari" 
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Subject: Re: Making a 56K Modem Pool
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"Majid Almassari"  writes:

> Soren Dayton  wrote in message
> news:86u2k5io06.fsf@polo.overx.com...
>
> > Does someone know what's going on here (or know of a pointer to that
> > kind of information)?  I just don't understand what the issues are,
> > and I'm going to need to understand these to buy new modems, phone
> > lines, etc.
>
> Unfortunately there is nothing that you can do about it except calling the
> phone company and complain about noise so they can dispatch a technician to
> check the wiring in your location at least. Remote testing based on Signal
> to Noise ratios are not that accurate anyway. There might be wiring problems
> in your location that a phone tech can determine (like a cross-over
> wiring-Phone guys know this better that I do?). If everything is OK then you
> are basically limited and need to switch to a different Technology such as
> ISDN, XDSL, Cable,...etc.

Hmm.  Either I don't understand your answer, or I asked the question
badly.  The setup is two analog modems talking to each other.  Both
can separately achieve ~51k connections on their respective phone
lines to various 56k services (such as USR's 56k test line and various
Chicago ISPs).  However when connecting to each other, they always get
33k.  One explanation is that one is configured to max out at 33k in
one direction.

The USR/3com guy said, basically, that this is true.  BUT also that
there are funny protocol issues that require that one of the modems be
in a "server mode" and speak a "server protocol".  And that these
kinds of devices only come in ISDN flavors (thus requiring digital
lines, etc)

So my question: is this true?  What's the story?  What are references
that I can look at?

Does this disagree with what you are saying?  Does it agree?  Did I
state the question clearly enough?

THANKS,
Soren


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Two 56k modems connected together will not connect higher than 33.6.  All
56k modems are "one way" they only achieve those speeds downstream, not up.
In order to communicate at those speeds you would need to use a different
technology.

Steve
morrows@dmtconsulting.com

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Subject: Re: Making a 56K Modem Pool


"Majid Almassari"  writes:

> Soren Dayton  wrote in message
> news:86u2k5io06.fsf@polo.overx.com...
>
> > Does someone know what's going on here (or know of a pointer to that
> > kind of information)?  I just don't understand what the issues are,
> > and I'm going to need to understand these to buy new modems, phone
> > lines, etc.
>
> Unfortunately there is nothing that you can do about it except calling the
> phone company and complain about noise so they can dispatch a technician
to
> check the wiring in your location at least. Remote testing based on Signal
> to Noise ratios are not that accurate anyway. There might be wiring
problems
> in your location that a phone tech can determine (like a cross-over
> wiring-Phone guys know this better that I do?). If everything is OK then
you
> are basically limited and need to switch to a different Technology such as
> ISDN, XDSL, Cable,...etc.

Hmm.  Either I don't understand your answer, or I asked the question
badly.  The setup is two analog modems talking to each other.  Both
can separately achieve ~51k connections on their respective phone
lines to various 56k services (such as USR's 56k test line and various
Chicago ISPs).  However when connecting to each other, they always get
33k.  One explanation is that one is configured to max out at 33k in
one direction.

The USR/3com guy said, basically, that this is true.  BUT also that
there are funny protocol issues that require that one of the modems be
in a "server mode" and speak a "server protocol".  And that these
kinds of devices only come in ISDN flavors (thus requiring digital
lines, etc)

So my question: is this true?  What's the story?  What are references
that I can look at?

Does this disagree with what you are saying?  Does it agree?  Did I
state the question clearly enough?

THANKS,
Soren


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On Sat, Jan 22, 2000 at 08:31:11PM -0600, Soren Dayton wrote:
> "Majid Almassari"  writes:
> 
> > Soren Dayton  wrote in message
> > news:86u2k5io06.fsf@polo.overx.com...
> >
> > > Does someone know what's going on here (or know of a pointer to that
> > > kind of information)?  I just don't understand what the issues are,
> > > and I'm going to need to understand these to buy new modems, phone
> > > lines, etc.
> >
> > Unfortunately there is nothing that you can do about it except calling the
> > phone company and complain about noise so they can dispatch a technician to
> > check the wiring in your location at least. Remote testing based on Signal
> > to Noise ratios are not that accurate anyway. There might be wiring problems
> > in your location that a phone tech can determine (like a cross-over
> > wiring-Phone guys know this better that I do?). If everything is OK then you
> > are basically limited and need to switch to a different Technology such as
> > ISDN, XDSL, Cable,...etc.
> 
> Hmm.  Either I don't understand your answer, or I asked the question
> badly.  The setup is two analog modems talking to each other.  Both
> can separately achieve ~51k connections on their respective phone
> lines to various 56k services (such as USR's 56k test line and various
> Chicago ISPs).  However when connecting to each other, they always get
> 33k.  One explanation is that one is configured to max out at 33k in
> one direction.
> 
> The USR/3com guy said, basically, that this is true.  BUT also that
> there are funny protocol issues that require that one of the modems be
> in a "server mode" and speak a "server protocol".  And that these
> kinds of devices only come in ISDN flavors (thus requiring digital
> lines, etc)
> 
> So my question: is this true?  What's the story?  What are references
> that I can look at?
> 
> Does this disagree with what you are saying?  Does it agree?  Did I
> state the question clearly enough?

I am not a modem expert. However, I became aquainted with this issue
when people (including the company GM) whined about how they could
never do better than 33 Kb/s when they dialed into our network.

The 56 Kb/s download and 33.6 Kb/s is an inherent limitation to an
analog connection. There is no way around it. The real reasons the
limit exists are complicated, and I have not sought to fully
understand them. It basically comes down to the fact that a digital
line can talk to an analog line at 56 Kb/s (using the V.90 standard),
but analog can only talk to digial (or another analog) at 33.6 Kb/s
(V.34 I think). It's not intuitively obvious, but it's been a while
since I did any RF signal work.

This URL is a _really_ non-technical overview, but its the best I
could do really quickly. All of the references I previously dug up are
written on paper at the office (that's not very like me...).
-- 
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On Sat, Jan 22, 2000 at 11:52:44AM -1000, Matt Rohrer wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I installed vim from the ports collection but when I try to start it I
> get:
> 
> /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libXext.so.6" not found
> 
> when I try to start emacs, also installed from ports collection, I get
> the same error except for libXaw.so.6 is not found.
> 
> I tried installing all of the source from /stand/sysinstall and tried to
> find the libraries in /usr/src afterwards, but found nothing. Where can I
> find and install these libraries?
> 
> Thanks for helping a newbie.

As one might guess from the names, these libraries are both part of
X. On my system they are in,

-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  248524 Aug 31 07:33 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.6
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   44909 Aug 31 07:33 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6

You will not find them in the source since they are X, not FreeBSD.

If you have X installed on your system, you need to make sure that the
X libs are in the shared lib hints (see ldconfig(8)). If you do not
have X installed, either install it if you want it or rebuild emacs
and vim making sure not to include X support.
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On Sat, Jan 22, 2000 at 10:03:41PM -0500, Crist J. Clark wrote:
[snip]
> This URL is a _really_ non-technical overview, but its the best I
> could do really quickly. All of the references I previously dug up are
> written on paper at the office (that's not very like me...).

Errr, umm... Forgot the URL,

 http://www.V90.com/whatis.htm

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On Sat, Jan 22, 2000 at 08:31:11PM -0600, Soren Dayton wrote:
> "Majid Almassari"  writes:
> 
> > Soren Dayton  wrote in message
> > news:86u2k5io06.fsf@polo.overx.com...
> >
> > > Does someone know what's going on here (or know of a pointer to that
> > > kind of information)?  I just don't understand what the issues are,
> > > and I'm going to need to understand these to buy new modems, phone
> > > lines, etc.
> >
> > Unfortunately there is nothing that you can do about it except calling the
> > phone company and complain about noise so they can dispatch a technician to
> > check the wiring in your location at least. Remote testing based on Signal
> > to Noise ratios are not that accurate anyway. There might be wiring problems
> > in your location that a phone tech can determine (like a cross-over
> > wiring-Phone guys know this better that I do?). If everything is OK then you
> > are basically limited and need to switch to a different Technology such as
> > ISDN, XDSL, Cable,...etc.
> 
> Hmm.  Either I don't understand your answer, or I asked the question
> badly.  The setup is two analog modems talking to each other.  Both
> can separately achieve ~51k connections on their respective phone
> lines to various 56k services (such as USR's 56k test line and various
> Chicago ISPs).  However when connecting to each other, they always get
> 33k.  One explanation is that one is configured to max out at 33k in
> one direction.
> 
> The USR/3com guy said, basically, that this is true.  BUT also that
> there are funny protocol issues that require that one of the modems be
> in a "server mode" and speak a "server protocol".  And that these
> kinds of devices only come in ISDN flavors (thus requiring digital
> lines, etc)
> 
> So my question: is this true?  What's the story?  What are references
> that I can look at?
> 
  Yes it's true, your modem's upstream speed is only 33K. Why? Don't worry
  about! ... OK if you insist go to http://v90.com :)

  Cheers,
  Naief
  BBTG

> Does this disagree with what you are saying?  Does it agree?  Did I
> state the question clearly enough?
> 
> THANKS,
> Soren
> 
> 
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On Sat, Jan 22, 2000, ROsteen wrote:
> Can anyone tell me the name of a program that will allow me to recall
> past commands like an up arrow or something?

   First of all, shouldn't you be posting this in
freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org?  This question has absolutely
nothing to FreeBSD networking.

   Secondly, you want to use your shell's history editing.  If
you want the up-arrow/down-arrow business, do this:

     cd /usr/ports/shells/bash
     make install

   as this shell by default has that functionality.  Another
shell, pdksh, under /usr/ports/shells/pdksh, can do this
optionally with the ``set -o gmacs'' command.

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On Sat, Jan 22, 2000 at 01:21:47PM -0500, Ken Seggerman wrote:
> Greetings:
> 
> I am trying to rebuild my 3.1 kernel on a desktop pc.
> 
> I did a make depend and then a make sevaral times.
> 
> Make invarialbly fails with:
> rm -f hack.c
> cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit
> -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes  -Wpointer-arith
> -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused  -fformat-extensions -ansi
> -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I/usr/include  -DKERNEL -DVM_STACK -include
> opt_global.h -elf  swapkernel.c
> make: don't know how to make ../../sys/param.h. Stop
> 
> My reading of the handbook lead me to believe that I may have made some
> errors in editing the kernel configuration file.
> 
> I tried reducing the number of changes, and finally tried building from
> GENERIC with the same result:
>  make: don't know how to make ../../sys/param.h. Stop
> 
> There are several versions of param.h in various places
> 
> /usr/include/machine/param.h
> /usr/include/sys/param.h
> /usr/src/sys/alpha/include/param.h
> /usr/src/sys/i386/boot/dosboot/param.h
> /usr/src/sys/i386/include/param.h
> /usr/src/sys/param.h
> 
> They are not identical.
> 
> Perhaps the compiler is reading the wrong one, or there might be an error
> in the Makefile like a param.h where it should be param.c or param.o
> 
> I would be grateful for any help in this matter.

It is looking for /usr/src/sys/param.h. In my 3.4 kernel Makefile, the
only place I see this is,

vers.c: $S/conf/newvers.sh $S/sys/param.h ${SYSTEM_DEP}
        sh $S/conf/newvers.sh ${KERN_IDENT} ${IDENT}

You have not done something weird like moved the compile/MYKERNEL
directory someplace else? What happens if you are in the compile
directory and do a,

  # ls -l ../../sys/param.h

Although I don't know if this could possibly be making problems, you
are doing a 'make depend' before the 'make', right?
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On Sat, Jan 22, 2000 at 10:08:21AM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
> 	i am trying to get a machine set up for work on Monday.
> 
> 	Turns out the 1.2G dsk I brought home for this machien is bad. I put a
> 	20G I had in to allow me to continue, but I can't get the BIOS to see
> 	it well enough to allow me to bootfrom it (old 486 machine).
> 
> 	Could someone please tell me how, or point me to docs, no building a
> 	boot floppy that will boot the kernel on the hard disk, and mount hte
> 	hard disk root partiton as /?
> 
> 	I would _greatly_ appreciate som help on this. The FreBSD book did not
> 	give me any guidance on this.
> 
> 	I know you can do this in Linux using LILO, surely we can do it to?
> 
> 	Thanks.

I am going to probably have to set something like this up myself in a
few days.

I _think_ there should not be much more to it than,

1) Take something like kern.flp

2) Set up boot/loader.rc on it to just boot the kernel on the floppy.

3) Put the kernel you will be using for this machine on the floppy.

I think that's it. Except point (3) has some details. Make sure to
specify the correct device as the root device in the kernel config
file when you build the kernel. Also, you may need to compress the
kernel to fit it on the floppy. Use kgzip(8) or kzip(8)... I never
remember which is the more recent one that should be used. I think
kgzip is the one for ELF kernels.
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Alexey Koptsevich wrote:
> 
> I tried to install the package gimp-1.1.11 under FreeBSD 3.4. It
> requires tiff-3.5.3, which is absent in both ports and packages. With
> tiff-3.5.4, which is present, gimp refuses to work. I would be grateful
> for a piece of advice how to make gimp work on my system.

The simplest thing to do is to 'make distclean' the tiff port. Then let 
the gimp worry about reinstalling it.

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On Sat, Jan 22, 2000 at 12:27:28AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
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> I tried looking in sh(1) manpage for anything like an escape sequence
> to put in the value of PS1, but I couldn't find anything helpful...

sh(1) is not really intended to be an interactive shell with all these
kinds of bells and whistles. You will find no such feature in sh(1).

It's things like escape sequences and those extras that make bash(1)
such a hog in the first place! You get what you pay for. ;)
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Hello there;

Is there an easy, trivial, efforless ;-) way to upgrade a port and ALL its
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On Sat, Jan 22, 2000 at 09:45:06AM -0500, Ben WIlliams wrote:
> FreeBSD,                                               Saturday, January 22, 2000
> 
>    I am having a problem with a custom compilation of exim I'm trying to copy
> over to a new machine complaining about not being able to find a shared
> library (/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libmysqlclient.so.6.0" not
> found) which I have verified IS installed in /usr/local/lib/mysql, but even
> issuing an `ldconfig -v -m /usr/local/lib/mysql` /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1
> isn't updated, though the hints file is.
>    How do I get the file updated? Setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH doen't help either.

What does,

 % ldconfig -r | grep mysql

Return?
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On Sat, Jan 22, 2000 at 03:05:31PM +0200, Michael Bartlett wrote:
> Thought I'd throw this @ the list as well...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Bartlett 
> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 2:56 PM
> To: 'Burke Gallagher'
> Subject: RE: internet gateway setup using NATD
> 
> 
> Hey Burke,
> 
> Sorry to bug you again, but I'm having another problem and it could be
> related to what you told me to do and could also prove interesting...
> 
> On one of my other boxes I run this script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d
> 
> /sbin/natd -n fxp0 -redirect_port tcp 196.38.133.194:110 196.38.133.198:80
> /sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via fxp0
> 
> If you are confused, the reason is that we needed to get around a firewall
> problem (one of our consultants other company close 110 access on their
> firewall - this way he can pickup his mail from us with port 80!! ;) ).
> 
> Anyway,
> 
> I tried the identical thing on my box with your settings and take a look...
> 
> [eyeland] # /sbin/natd -n rl0 -redirect_port tcp 196.31.83.226:25
> 196.31.83.227:80
> [eyeland] # telnet 196.31.83.227 80
> Trying 196.31.83.227...
> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
> 
> Now the .227 ip is an alias on rl0, so it should just be passed along the
> same NIC and have no problems. I also tried the destination being on rl1
> (192.168.62.150:25) which is an smtp server on my local network and that
> didn't work either.
> 
> Any thoughts?

Yes. First, don't start NATd from /usr/local/etc/rc.d. That is pretty
much dead last in the startup process and could prevent lotsa stuff
from being started properly in the ealier steps since the networking
won't work. It also means that your divert to natd in the firewall is
the last rule. Most likely, that will mess things up too (especially
if you have a 'pass ip any to any' before it).

In your second problem, it's really hard to say what is going on. Your
firewall rules (with the divert) are suspect for the above reasons, so
I would not be surprised if nothing works. However, even if we assume
they are now OK, we can't say if there is a problem with natd. If you
call 196.31.83.226 directly on port 25, do you actually get to talk to
sendmail (or whatever MTA is supposed to be listening)? natd could be
working and we would not know it.
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On Sat, Jan 22, 2000 at 02:45:28AM -0600, Sean Heber wrote:
[snip]
> Anyway, what the heck is the problem?  Any ideas at all?  A deadlock
>  case or 
> race condition or something else?  Running out of allowed open files? 
>  This 
> worries me a lot.  I've had the box running fine for a couple weeks now
>  and 
> the day before shipping it acts wacko. 

It really sounds like a hardware problem to me. I was having SCSI
hardware errors a few weeks back, and I could get similar
problems. However, the SCSI system was rather verbose about the
problems and things would usually come back to life. More frequently,
I see similar symptoms when I have hard-mounted NFS failures. Still,
those eventually produce some messages but do not unhang.

My best guess is a hardware problem with HDDs, but I those ususally do
produce error massges (both IDE and SCSI). Possibly only mount
specific drives at a time and see if a specific volume is always
around when there is trouble?
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George Cox wrote:
> 
> > Any ideas with which software and/or setup I can aceive this?
> 
> procmail.
> 
>       http://www.procmail.org
>   or cd /usr/ports/mail/procmail && make install

Funny you should say that, I was just thinking about activating procmail
for a client. Synchronicity strikes again . Didn't though, since it
would mean either patching freebsd.mc or sendmail.cf. The latter is the
easier but I'd decided to be a good little boy and go the advised route,
which of course means entering unknown territory . Ok, plunged and
lo and behold! I don't know but that install does some weird things. First 
OpenSSL failed to install and now I've got the enter return at some locking
test. Whatever.

It's build but no config has patched. So that means either changing
to the FEATURE(local_procmail)dnl in whatever.mc or patching
sendmail.cf to something like

Mlocal,         P=/usr/local/bin/procmail, F=lsDFMAw5:/|@qSPfhn9P, S=10/30,
R=20/40,
                T=DNS/RFC822/X-Unix,
                A=procmail -Y -a $h -d $u


Mprog,          P=/bin/sh, F=lsDFMoqeu9, S=10/30, R=20/40, D=$z:/,
                T=X-Unix,
                A=sh -c $u

Anyway, the point is you still need to weave it in.

Roelof

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On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 04:56:53PM -0500, Windsor Match Plate and Tool Ltd. wrote:
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> What we want to do, is connect the FreeBSD box to the internet, (our ISP
> will handle the DNS/MX record), as an email server. Allowing our office to
> recieve/send email. I've gotten the recieve portion to work, but get the
> error 'relaying not allowed' on the FreeBSD box when an internal windows'
> box tries to send email.
>     As I said above, I've not played around much with sendmail before, (yet
> it doesn't mean I'm afraid to), hence I'd like to know the simplest/shortest
> method by which to enable SMTP relaying, (our ISP is willing to allow use of
> it's SMTP server if we need it).

This was the first thing I did with FreeBSD at the office. It is not
too tough.

Go to /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf. Look at the README file and decide
which is the best relaying option for you (e.g. relay_entire_domain,
relay_hosts_only, relay_local_from, etc.). You will also probably want
your sendmail to masquerade, so look up how to do that. Follow the
instructions in that file on how to make your own .mc-file and then
convert that to a sendmail.cf.

Once that .cf-file is in place, you are ready to relay mail. Good
luck. Feel free to bounce more specific questions to the list, but you
might want to check the many sendmail resources at,

   http://www.sendmail.org

   comp.mail.sendmail

And the many others first.
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> What version of FreeBSD are you running? I had exactly the

It's 3.4-RELEASE (no CVSup whatsoever)


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Hi,

I have two cdroms on my secondary ide controller, one cdrom, and one cdwriter.
Unfortunately I'm unable to create /dev entries for the second drive (acd1):

enterprise# ./MAKEDEV acd1    ( also tried 'all')
enterprise# ls ac*
acd0a   acd0c

as you can see, the first drive has entries, and it works fine. It's just the
second one that's the problem. Any suggestions? I remember that awhile back
I was able to use my cdwriter drive with the new ata drivers, but it's seems to
have broke since then (sorry don't have specific date). This is a -current
kernel, cvsupped/built just a few minutes ago. Is this just a pilot error?
Below is the relevant lines from dmesg and my config file.

ata-pci0:  port 0xffa0-0xffaf at device 7.1 on
pci0
ata-pci0: Busmastering DMA supported
ata0 at 0x01f0 irq 14 on ata-pci0
ata1 at 0x0170 irq 15 on ata-pci0
...
acd0:  CDROM drive at ata1 as master
acd0: read 171KB/s (6187KB/s), 128KB buffer, PIO4
acd0: Reads: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA stream, packet
acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels
acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray
acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked
acd1:  CD-RW drive at ata1 as slave 
acd1: read 344KB/s (1034KB/s) write 344KB/s (344KB/s), 768KB buffer, PIO3
acd1: Reads: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA stream, packet
acd1: Writes: CD-R, CD-RW, test write
acd1: Audio: play, 128 volume levels
acd1: Mechanism: ejectable tray
acd1: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked, lock protected


# ATAPI devices
device          ata0
device          atadisk0        # ATAPI DISK
device          atapicd0        # ATAPI CDROM drives

options         ATA_STATIC_ID

( i also tried it without the ATA_STATIC_ID line, but it didn't seem to make a
difference )

- Later

---------------------------------
Mike Heffner 
Fredericksburg, VA
ICQ# 882073
Date: 22-Jan-2000   Time: 22:54:03
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On Sat, Jan 22, 2000 at 11:14:00PM -0500, Mike Heffner wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have two cdroms on my secondary ide controller, one cdrom, and one cdwriter.
> Unfortunately I'm unable to create /dev entries for the second drive (acd1):
> 
> enterprise# ./MAKEDEV acd1    ( also tried 'all')
> enterprise# ls ac*
> acd0a   acd0c
> 
> as you can see, the first drive has entries, and it works fine. It's just the
> second one that's the problem. Any suggestions?...
[snip]

What version number is the system? What does the code for the acd?
device look like in your MAKEDEV? I know there have been times that in
order to make device 0-n in /dev you need to tell MAKEDEV to make
device (n+1). But I don't recall that with acd?.

If all else fails,

  # mknod  acd1a b 19  8
  # mknod racd1a c 69  8
  # mknod  acd1c b 19 10
  # mknod racd1c c 69 10
  # ln -sf  acd1a  wcd1a
  # ln -sf racd1a rwcd1a
  # ln -sf  acd1c  wcd1c
  # ln -sf racd1c rwcd1c
  # chgrp operator acd1[ac] rcd1[ac]
  # chmod 640 acd1[ac] rcd1[ac]
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On 23-Jan-2000 Crist J. Clark wrote:
  |  I know there have been times that in
  | order to make device 0-n in /dev you need to tell MAKEDEV to make
  | device (n+1). But I don't recall that with acd?.

Wow, that worked! Thanks alot....i never thought that I'd have to create n+1 to
get n ;)

  | -- 
  | Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@home.com

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Howdy,

I'm new to bsd, and have just muddled through the installation of apache on
my machine here at home (its a 2.2.6 build, mostly set up by a friend), and
I would like to enable friends to view web pages on my machine - but I have
no idea how to set the directories so that they can be viewed....

Can someone tell me how to do this? - what are the default permissions to
allow something to be viewed? - do I need a . file of some sort so that
people can browse it or something? :-)

Every attempt I've had so far has come across some form of 'you do not have
permission' message.....

Any and all help would be gratefully recieved :-)

regards

james



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ipfw add deny icmp from any to any

Omachonu Ogali
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, David V. D. wrote:

> Hello all,
> I have a question about freebsd firewall, how can I set it to block (no
> reply) icmp. I'm using FreeBSD 3.4-20000112-STABLE.
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On Friday, 21 January 2000 at 23:39:12 +0000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
>
> Not to start a war or anything, but i'm trying to decide on a fast
> powerful editor.  I've been using joe, and i just started learning
> vi, and i like it so far.  But there are new editors and new
> versions of vi that seem to have a lot to offer.  I've narrowed it
> down to vi, an enhanced version of vi (vile or vim?) uemacs, or joe.
> ANy thoughts?

If you want a really powerful editor, and you don't want to relearn
the way you think, you'd be better off using real Emacs than uemacs,
which is a bit of a toy.  vi and its derivatives are also powerful,
but they require a lot of rethinking, and I don't think they're as
powerful anyway.

> I'd like to be able to cut and paste within the editor and between
> xterms.

You can only do that up to a point with vi.  vi doesn't understand X,
so it runs in an xterm.  Emacs in X mode will copy the last cut text
to the X cut buffer, so you can paste it into an xterm, but also use
it in Emacs.

> I really like the efficiency of vi so far, but i have a long ways to
> go before i am proficient.

It's a steep curve.

Greg
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On Friday, 21 January 2000 at 16:57:23 -0500, Ted Stein wrote:
> 	What exactly is disk error 0x1? What can I do about it?

First, you report where you get it.

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On 01/22/2000 7:50:23 PM, "Steve Morrow" wrote:

>Two 56k modems connected together will not connect higher than 33.6.  All
>56k modems are "one way" they only achieve those speeds downstream, not up.
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In your httpd.conf file, you should see something like this:

---------
# UserDir: The name of the directory which is appended onto a user's home
# directory if a ~user request is received.
#
UserDir public_html
---------

If you want to allow users to have their own pages, just have them create
the directory "public_html" in their home directory.  To view the content on
the net, simply have them open a browser and set their address to
http://your.domain-or-ip.here/~username .   Make sure you use the ~ symbol
in before the username, or it won't work.

You can change the UserDir setting in httpd.conf to whatever you want, and
then have your users create a subdirectory by that name in their home
directory.  You will get forbidden messages and the like if you don't have
an index.html file in the directory or if the permissions are wrong,
rights/permissions MUST be executable (not necessarily readable) by all.
Example "chmod 755" will work, but so will "chmod 711".  I use "chmod 711"
to set permissions so that users can snoop in each other's directories.
(Please don't argue about this people... I know some of you are probably
gettin' that warm and fuzzy "I think what you're doing is WRONG" feeling
already...)  hahaha  j/k =)

Any more questions?  Need more clarification?  Send me a note and I'll get
back to you.

-David Fuchs


----- Original Message -----
From: James 
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Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 9:17 PM
Subject: help with apache, and public_html directory


> Howdy,
>
> I'm new to bsd, and have just muddled through the installation of apache
on
> my machine here at home (its a 2.2.6 build, mostly set up by a friend),
and
> I would like to enable friends to view web pages on my machine - but I
have
> no idea how to set the directories so that they can be viewed....
>
> Can someone tell me how to do this? - what are the default permissions to
> allow something to be viewed? - do I need a . file of some sort so that
> people can browse it or something? :-)
>
> Every attempt I've had so far has come across some form of 'you do not
have
> permission' message.....
>
> Any and all help would be gratefully recieved :-)
>
> regards
>
> james
>
>
>
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On Friday, 21 January 2000 at 13:17:10 -0700, George Vagner wrote:
> when i boot up i get this message, I have flags 0xa0ffa0ff set in my
> kernel and an udma drive Maxtor 85250D6 and an Udma cable is connected.
> nothing is on the second controller and a Udma cdrom is on the primary
> controllers second channel.
>
> The mainboard is a tyan 1598c2 with 164meg ram, amd 350, adaptec 1542cf
> controller for the tape drive, and soundblaster 16 PNP for sound
> matrox mystique pci for video.
>
> i tried changing my bios to LBA but that made no difference.
>
> where am i going wrong here...?

Well, for a start you haven't said whether you're having any problems,
and if so which.  What is 'this message'?

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Clarification:

--snip--
I use "chmod 711" to set permissions so that users can snoop in each other's
directories.
--snip--

I meant "can't"... not "can"... :)

-David Fuchs

----- Original Message -----
From: David Fuchs 
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Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 9:57 PM
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> In your httpd.conf file, you should see something like this:
>
> ---------
> # UserDir: The name of the directory which is appended onto a user's home
> # directory if a ~user request is received.
> #
> UserDir public_html
> ---------
>
> If you want to allow users to have their own pages, just have them create
> the directory "public_html" in their home directory.  To view the content
on
> the net, simply have them open a browser and set their address to
> http://your.domain-or-ip.here/~username .   Make sure you use the ~ symbol
> in before the username, or it won't work.
>
> You can change the UserDir setting in httpd.conf to whatever you want, and
> then have your users create a subdirectory by that name in their home
> directory.  You will get forbidden messages and the like if you don't have
> an index.html file in the directory or if the permissions are wrong,
> rights/permissions MUST be executable (not necessarily readable) by all.
> Example "chmod 755" will work, but so will "chmod 711".  I use "chmod 711"
> to set permissions so that users can snoop in each other's directories.
> (Please don't argue about this people... I know some of you are probably
> gettin' that warm and fuzzy "I think what you're doing is WRONG" feeling
> already...)  hahaha  j/k =)
>
> Any more questions?  Need more clarification?  Send me a note and I'll get
> back to you.
>
> -David Fuchs
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James 
> To: Freebsd Questions 
> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 9:17 PM
> Subject: help with apache, and public_html directory
>
>
> > Howdy,
> >
> > I'm new to bsd, and have just muddled through the installation of apache
> on
> > my machine here at home (its a 2.2.6 build, mostly set up by a friend),
> and
> > I would like to enable friends to view web pages on my machine - but I
> have
> > no idea how to set the directories so that they can be viewed....
> >
> > Can someone tell me how to do this? - what are the default permissions
to
> > allow something to be viewed? - do I need a . file of some sort so that
> > people can browse it or something? :-)
> >
> > Every attempt I've had so far has come across some form of 'you do not
> have
> > permission' message.....
> >
> > Any and all help would be gratefully recieved :-)
> >
> > regards
> >
> > james
> >
> >
> >
> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
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On Friday, 21 January 2000 at 19:27:13 -0500, Walter Brameld wrote:
> Gene Harris wrote:
>>
>> You might want to set your flags to b0ffb0ff.  This turns on
>> LBA in the driver.
>
> Pardon my ignorance, but where do I find information on the
> flags?

Take a look at /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT.  They're also described in
more detail in "The Complete FreeBSD".

Greg
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If you're running a website, you're probably seen this before:

[Sun Jan 23 16:09:06 2000] [error] [client w.x.y.z] File does not exist: 
/www/freebsddiary.org/favicon.ico

This favicon.ico is used by IE in their bookmarks/favourites.  Has 
anyone seen one for a BSD?  I'd like one, but have neither the skills nor 
the talent to do one.

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On Friday, 21 January 2000 at 19:48:47 +0100, John Russell wrote:
>> On  Friday, January 21, 2000 10:10 AM, Juan Kuuse  wrote:
>>>
>>> This message was sent from Geocrawler.com by "Juan Kuuse"
>>> 
>>> Be sure to reply to that address.
>>>
>>> More a common UNIX question than a FreeBSD topic:
>>>
>>> grep
>>> to search a keyword multiple files
>>>
>>> How do I search and replace one keyword for
>>> another in multiple files, any suggestions?
>>
>> Grab a Perl manual and build something along the lines of,
>>
>>> perl -i.bak -pe 's/word1/word2/g;'

Not quite the generic UNIX way.

> or use
> find . | sed s/word1/word2/g

This will change the file names, not their contents, and it won't save
it back.  You would probably also want to get into the habit of
writing quotes around the sed expression, in case it contains
delimiters.

A better approach to the original question would be:

  for i in *.c *.h; do 
    sed <$i 's/word1/word2/g' >$i.bak; 
    mv $i.bak $i; 
  done

*.c *.h represents the list of files you want to change.  You can use
any globbing pattern or list of globbing patterns here.  You can also
perform multiple changes in one pass: use the syntax

  's/word1/word2/g; s/word3/word4/g'

The 'g' at the end of the expressions means "change every occurrence
in the line".  If you omit it, you only change the first occurrence.

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On Friday, 21 January 2000 at 11:56:16 -0500, Mike Sturdee wrote:
> Is there a system util to see how my HDD I/O is doing?? I've got a
> fast enough processor and enough memory, but sometimes the system is
> slower then what my bandwidth can do, and it's not the NIC, it's a
> 10/100.. Somebody told me it's most likely disk i/o speed..

You could try iostat for a start, but it doesn't tell you everything
you need to know.

Greg
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On Sat, Jan 22, 2000 at 02:56:09PM +0800, Greg Lehey wrote:
> 
> First, you report where you get it.
> 

I actually did, two days ago, the message appeared to go unnoticed, so
I sent another shortened version to see if my messages were going
through or whatever. Here is the gist of it:

Earlier today, my filesystems somehow got messed up, so I tried
reinstalling. I've installed about 5 times since, to no avail. The error
I get is as such:

BootMgr
1: DOS
5: Disk 1

(I enter 2)

BootMgr
1: FreeBSD
2: DOS
5: Disk 0

(I enter 1)

-- begin actual stuff --
Disk error 0x1 (lba=0xe2904f)
no /boot/loader
boot: wd(1,a)/kernel
Disk error 0x1 (lba=0xe2904f)
no /kernel
-- end --

These are two IDE disks, the FreeBSD one is on the primary controller as
the slave. If I set the device to wd(1,e) (/usr) and type '?' it lists
all the directories fine, but the other slices, I have no idea what's
going on. Any help is appreciated, I'd be glad to provide more
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On Saturday, 22 January 2000 at 15:31:49 -0700, VINSON WAYNE HOWARD wrote:
> I realize this could be just a s well posted o current, but here it is:
>
> I'm installing the 1-18 version of current on a inspiron 3200 w/ a 3com
> 574-tx e-net adaptor.  On boot from the install disks, the kernel found
> the pcard bridge, but I didn't see an entry for the card itself.  there
> were two unidentified devices, however.  I'm told that this card works
> fine under 4.0, but I'm at a loss as two how to get the card to the point
> where I can do an ftp install with it.  Do I need PAO???

Is this the PCCard version or the CardBus version?  The latter should
have the word CardBus written on it somewhere.

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I've done ctrl-alt-delete many times and fsck has never found the drives to
have been unproperly unmounted during shutdown...

-Martin

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Fuchs" 
To: "Oren Sarig" ; "Martin Gignac" 
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Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 1:54 PM
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ctrl-alt-del?


> Oh no... I hope you guys aren't all pressing ctrl-alt-delete because it's
> faster!
>
> When you do a ctrl-alt-delete, your drives aren't being unmounted
properly.
> The program fsck (File System Consistency Check) will find that the drives
> weren't properly unmounted and therefore it will scan each partition of
> every drive for errors.  It will then reboot your computer in order to
> properly re-mount the drives.
>
> I did a ctrl-alt-delete once and had to wait 20 minutes before my system
was
> functional again.  (tip:  not good for business)
>
> Stick to reboot and you'll have less trouble in the future.
>
> -David Fuchs
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Oren Sarig 
> To: Martin Gignac 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 10:43
> Subject: Re: Is there a difference between 'reboot' command and
> ctrl-alt-del?
>
>
> > I don't think there is a difference in the proccess that gets
> > executed, but if I telnet to another machine, and I use shutdown -r
> > now, the other machine would reboot, but if I press ctrl-alt-del, my
> > machine would reboot. That's the main differnce, afaik.
> >
> > --
> > Oren Sarig
> > sarig@bezeqint.net.il
> >
> > Martin Gignac wrote:
> > >
> > > Is there a difference between a reboot using the 'reboot' (or
> shutdown -r)
> > > command, and one using the ctrl-alt-delete key combination? I find
that
> > > ctrl-alt-delete always seems to shutdown faster than 'reboot'...
> > >
> > > -Martin
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