From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 0: 4:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ptldpop3.ptld.uswest.net (ptldpop3.ptld.uswest.net [198.36.160.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 749E037B722 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 00:04:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bwoods2@uswest.net) Received: (qmail 54466 invoked by alias); 7 May 2000 07:02:01 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-questions@freebsd.org@fixme Received: (qmail 54461 invoked by uid 0); 7 May 2000 07:02:01 -0000 Received: from alpha.uswest.net (63.227.213.92) by ptldpop3.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 7 May 2000 07:02:01 -0000 Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 00:06:04 -0700 (PDT) From: William Woods Reply-To: bwoods2@uswest.net To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: web mail client Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG anyone reccomend a good web based pop mail client? ------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTICE TO BULK E-MAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, and all unsolicited commercial e-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 0:28: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from home.offwhite.net (home.offwhite.net [156.46.35.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE0A37B8C5 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 00:28:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brennan@offwhite.net) Received: from localhost (brennan@localhost) by home.offwhite.net (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA72474; Sun, 7 May 2000 02:28:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 02:28:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Brennan W Stehling To: William Woods Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: web mail client In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have not seen many open-sourced ones on the level of hotmail, but there is no reason for that. The POP3 module for perl is quite powerful, and with the MIME modules a powerful webmail can be created. I will be building a fully functional webmail interface to a pop3 server this year for my own needs. If you would like to help in the effort, I would be happy to make it a public project. What I have used so far is... http://www.Freshmeat.net/appindex/1999/12/15/945300339.html It does the basics, but need to learn to parse and display attachments. A method to allow users to have folders to sort their mail is also a necessary function which is not supported via POP3. You would need to create spool files for each folder, which means you have to get into the guts of it. Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com Microsoft: Will you get a macro virus today? On Sun, 7 May 2000, William Woods wrote: > anyone reccomend a good web based pop mail client? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > NOTICE TO BULK E-MAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, > Subchapter II, 227, and all unsolicited commercial e-mail sent to this > address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 0:33:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from enia.net (eagle-47.enia.net [216.5.110.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448B137B8BE for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 00:33:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sdodson@enia.net) Received: from localhost (sdodson@localhost) by enia.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA00285 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 03:33:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sdodson@enia.net) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 03:33:51 -0400 (EDT) From: sdodson To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: spam? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is it just me or have i been getting spam through freebsd-questions? -scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 2:18:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from axl.ops.uunet.co.za (axl.ops.uunet.co.za [196.31.2.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCCB637BA64 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 02:18:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.ops.uunet.co.za) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.ops.uunet.co.za) by axl.ops.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12oNCc-000Btl-00; Sun, 07 May 2000 11:18:18 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: chris Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Network failure & random "vr0: Watchdog timeout" In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 May 2000 11:19:27 +1000." <4.2.2.20000506110819.00a91618@mail.southcom.com.au> Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 11:18:18 +0200 Message-ID: <45740.957691098@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 06 May 2000 11:19:27 +1000, chris wrote: > I have a strange feeling now that i've gone back to 3.4 that there was a > way to use vr0 without the miibus under 4.0.. Is there? I don't think so, no. Did you have both miibus and vr support compiled directly into the kernel? If not, I'd have given that a try, but otherwise it just looks like you have unsupported hardware. Of course, it's worth mentioning this to the author of the driver. :-) Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 2:43:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45E037B515 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 02:43:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joepark@uclink4.berkeley.edu) Received: from susan.pinol1.sfba.home.com (c833307-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com [24.11.139.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA29263 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 02:43:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Ho-Jeong Joe Park Organization: University of California, Berkeley To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 3D acceleration of RIVA TNT2 ultra card in X 4.0 Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 02:27:56 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00050702525700.00811@susan.pinol1.sfba.home.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I updated my box to FreeBSD 4.0 stable and XFree86 4.0. I thought 3D acceleration of RIVA TNT2 ultra card was incorporated with new version of XFree86, no? In 3.X version of X, a user had to go through a series of tweaking to take advange of 3D acceleration, but I didn't go through them because it said that those will be added to 4.0 release. After I finished updating my X, I tried Morph3D(GL) screen saver to see if there is any difference, and I see that nothing change--still little jumpy. I have no problem of using same screen saver in Window98. My box is Piii600 with 128 ram, so cpu and mem is not the problems. Any ideas? Thank you. -- Ho-Jeong Joe Park joepark@uclink4.berkeley.edu joep@doubletwist.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 3: 9:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.mishkei.org.il (mail.mishkei.org.il [62.0.64.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D4237BABF for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 03:09:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rom_glsa@ein-hashofet.co.il) Received: from einhashofet (host9.einhashofet.knet.co.il [212.116.170.9]) by mail.mishkei.org.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA27078 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:09:35 +0300 (IDT) Message-ID: <000601bfb814$9cf19d00$0264a8c0@einhashofet> From: "Gilad Rom" To: Subject: FreeBSD as a Real-Time solution? Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 13:08:44 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1255" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have been using FreeBSD as a Server OS for a long time with great success and satisfaction, and now the need has come for a new solution to our production network, which has several 486/386 machines, that need a real time OS to monitor production status. Question is, could FreeBSD be made suitable for such tasks? Performance isnt an issue, but I need to make precise time readings from the parallel port and timing is critical. Right now I am using DOS, which is pretty much fine for that, but I want something better. Thank you, -- Gilad. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 5:17: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.0.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C4F37B5DB for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 05:17:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomg@mailhost.nrnet.org) Received: from mailhost.nrnet.org (mailhost.nrnet.org [166.84.192.39]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25CFD30ED5 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 08:16:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (tomg@localhost) by mailhost.nrnet.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA28675 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 08:18:21 -0400 Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 08:18:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Good To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PPP succeeds...DNS fails In-Reply-To: <200005070319.WAA66294@sullivan.realtime.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi. I have user PPP running and my /etc/ppp/ppp.conf file is in order. I can connect and telnet via IP. But dns is failing despite my nameservers being listed in /etc/resolv.conf. Anyone know what I am missing? Thanks, Tom ------- North Richmond Community Mental Health Center ------- Thomas Good MIS Coordinator Vital Signs: tomg@ { admin | q8 } .nrnet.org Phone: 718-354-5528 Fax: 718-354-5056 /* Member: Computer Professionals For Social Responsibility */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 5:20:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from buffy.tpgi.com.au (buffy.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 397B037B528 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 05:20:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcd@tpg.com.au) Received: (from smtpd@localhost) by buffy.tpgi.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA08081 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 22:20:09 +1000 Received: from adl2-56k-036.tpgi.com.au(203.29.136.36), claiming to be "zen.dodsworth.org" via SMTP by buffy.tpgi.com.au, id smtpdBv9CIY; Sun May 7 22:20:06 2000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 21:48:33 +0930 (CST) From: Marc Dodsworth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Best Netscape Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi There Just wondering what version of Netscape people have found to be the most reliable. I am currently running 4.72 (FreeBSD native) and have found it's marginally better than 4.5. I know it was suggested to run of Java but I need to if for a couple of sites but am getting sick of it crashing. I'm runnning on 4.0-Release with XFree86 3.3.6. thankx Marc ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Marc Dodsworth Date: 07-May-00 Time: 21:45:53 ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 6:36:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from home.offwhite.net (home.offwhite.net [156.46.35.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B2237B6D6 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 06:35:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brennan@offwhite.net) Received: from localhost (brennan@localhost) by home.offwhite.net (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA74778; Sun, 7 May 2000 08:35:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 08:35:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Brennan W Stehling To: sdodson Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: spam? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have not seen any, but I do the RBL rules in place for sendmail to block most spam. Maybe you find that will block this spam. Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com Microsoft: Will you get a macro virus today? On Sun, 7 May 2000, sdodson wrote: > > Is it just me or have i been getting spam through freebsd-questions? > > -scott > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 7: 1:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from awww.jeah.net (awww.jeah.net [207.87.91.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B0B37B623 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 07:01:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@awww.jeah.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by awww.jeah.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA54642 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 May 2000 09:01:36 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 09:01:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Byrnes Message-Id: <200005071401.JAA54642@awww.jeah.net> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Resource unavailable. Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Sun May 7 07:45:27 2000] [error] [client 149.225.83.13] (35)Resource temporarily unavailable: couldn't spawn child process: /usr/home/www/cgi-bin/order.pl Yet 9:00AM up 2 days, 11:08, 1 user, load averages: 0.06, 0.04, 0.00 There's like nothing running on the box.. Any ideas? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 7:46:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.barak.net.il (mail.barak.net.il [206.49.94.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70CCC37BDA6 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 07:46:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yblank@barakitc.co.il) Received: from b3mail1.barakitc.co.il (b3mail1.barak.net.il [206.49.94.212]) by mail.barak.net.il (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA17683 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 17:46:32 +0300 (IDT) Received: FROM b1mail2.barakitc.co.il BY b3mail1.barakitc.co.il ; Sun May 07 17:45:18 2000 +0200 Received: by B1MAIL2 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sun, 7 May 2000 17:42:40 +0200 Message-ID: <11C24EF0AF95D311BA750008C71B68210129E97A@B1MAIL2> From: Yaron Blank To: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: help Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 17:42:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > hi there, > > i have installed freebsd 4.0 relesse. > > my problem is with installing isdn card in the freebsd > my card is : Tiger Jet 128 Kps modem. > > please tell me what i need to do > > thanks alot for your time > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 7:53: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.sdca.home.com (ha1.rdc1.sdca.home.com [24.0.3.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727CA37B886 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 07:53:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dalcocer@home.com) Received: from pino.localdomain.home.com ([24.0.45.247]) by mail.rdc1.sdca.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP id <20000507145301.SGCY13130.mail.rdc1.sdca.home.com@pino.localdomain.home.com> for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 07:53:01 -0700 From: Dario Alcocer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problem with newfs when installing 4.0 Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 07:53:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20000507145301.SGCY13130.mail.rdc1.sdca.home.com@pino.localdomain.home.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Folks, I've run into problems trying to install FreeBSD 4.0 on a NEC 486/66MHz machine. I'm using the Custom installation procedure, and when it comes time to partition the disk, 'fdisk' has an incorrect geometry for the disk. After I set the correct cylinder, heads, and sectors values (Quantum LPS210A, 201MB), I continue with the installation, but when 'newfs' runs, 'sysinstall' says: Unable to make new root filesystem on /dev/rad0s1a. I ran the installation again, this time enabling debugging on the second console, and when the failure occurred again, I switched over to the debugging console and found this: DEBUG: Executing command 'newfs -b 8192 -f 1024 /dev/rad0s1a' Warning: 2048 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rad0s1a: 387072 sectors in 95 cylinders of 1 tracks, 4096 sectors 189.0MB in 6 cyl groups (16 c/g, 32.00MB/g, 7872 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at: 32, 65568. 131104, 196640, 262176, 327712 cg 0: bad magic number write error: 0 newfs: wtfs: Read-only file system DEBUG: Command 'newfs -b 8192 -f 1024 /dev/rad0s1a' returns status of 36 Any ideas on how to overcome this problem? -- Dario Alcocer // dalcocer@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 7:55:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mpinet.net (pop.mpinet.net [216.53.130.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6061C37BAE1 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 07:55:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tjcompserv@mpinet.net) Received: (MPINet Mailer 18193 invoked from network); 7 May 2000 14:55:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tjcompserv2) (216.53.216.240) by smtp.mpinet.net with SMTP; 7 May 2000 14:55:05 -0000 From: "Tj Delmarco" To: Subject: FreeBSD NAT and PPP Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 10:58:37 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings All, I am currently running 4.0 STABLE on a box on my LAN at home. I am attempting to learn FreeBSD as I may be able to use it for some of my clients. I am currently experimenting with the box as a gateway using a dialup PPP connection. I have the box setup to dial upon boot up and keep the connection. Gateway is enabled in rc.conf. Routing is disabled. Firewall is disabled. The box dials and connects to the internet and locally on the box all services work fine (Telnet/Ftp/etc.) I am also using the nat option for ppp. On the client machine (win98se) I am able to ping both the IP address of the NIC on the freebsd box and the address that the ppp connection assigns to tun0. I am also able to ping the remote gateway's IP address of my ISP. Any other address that I attempt to ping responds with a TTL expired before reaching destination error. Any thoughts? Thanks, Tj Delmarco tjcompserv@mpinet.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 8:13:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web2103.mail.yahoo.com (web2103.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2229537BBD6 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 08:13:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from allenklu@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 18381 invoked by uid 60001); 7 May 2000 15:13:25 -0000 Message-ID: <20000507151325.18380.qmail@web2103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.102.221.227] by web2103.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 07 May 2000 08:13:25 PDT Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 08:13:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Allen Lu Subject: ipfirewall (ipfw) To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I have a question that I've been trying to find an answer in the docs for a while but can't seem to get a finger on what the problem could be. I'm using the latest standard release FreeBSD-4.0. These are my kernel changes under MYKERNEL to turn on firewall and static natd on two interfaces: rl0, rl1. Followed by my rc.conf. The problem is packets are not getting forwarded by the redirect_address statement in my /etc/natd.conf file. My goal is to setup a static natd by translating a real internet IP to the public interface (rl0) and redirect it after filtering to the private LAN via 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.10. When I telnet to 216.218.224.107, it goes to the firewall, not the destined client I want. I also cannot ping 216.218.224.107 on the firewall itself. 224.107 is aliased to 224.106, which is the original ip address of the public card. KERNEL: options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPDIVERT rc.conf: # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # gateway_enable="YES" network_interfaces="rl0 rl1 lo0" ifconfig_rl0="inet 216.218.224.106 netmask 255.255.255.248 broadcast 216.218.224 .111" ifconfig rl0 alias 216.218.224.107 netmask 255.255.255.248 ifconfig_rl1="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" defaultrouter="216.218.224.105" hostname="rogue.alltopix.com" firewall_enable="YES" firewall_type="open" firewall_quiet="NO" natd_enabled="YES" natd_interface="rl0" natd_flags="-u -m -f /etc/natd.conf" sendmail_enable="NO" gateway_enable="YES" router_enable="NO" static_routes="" router="routed" mrouted_enable="NO" mrouted_flags="" ipxgateway_enable="NO" tcp_extensions="NO" ipxrouted_enable="NO" ipxrouted_flags="" arpproxy_all="" forward_sourceroute="NO" accept_sourceroute="NO" /etc/natd.conf: redirect_address 192.168.1.10 216.218.224.107 Any suggestions to why it doesn't work? Allen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 8:50: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from quartz.nbnet.nb.ca (mailserv.nbnet.nb.ca [198.164.200.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6F937B5B3 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 08:49:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marco@nbnet.nb.ca) Received: from [10.162.2.82] ([198.164.220.57]) by quartz.nbnet.nb.ca (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-66826U105000L105000S0V35) with ESMTP id ca for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 12:49:58 -0300 Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 11:52:48 -0300 (ADT) From: Marco Shaw X-Sender: marco@linux.local To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ed0/ThinkPad/mknod question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If someone could be so kind to give me an 'ls -al' on /dev/ed0... I've been banging my head against the wall for a couple of days. I can't get the networking to work on my ThinkPad 390x. My biggest block right now it to get the ed0 device driver to create itself. I've cleaned up the devices at boot time (boot -c-->visual) to make sure ed0 was there without conflicts, but it still doesn't show up in dmesg. Now I'm going to try to create the device manually with mknod to see if that gets me any further. pccardd just complains about 'no card in database for ""("")', but I've copied over pccard.conf.sample to pccard.conf, unless there's something else... Thanks, Marco To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 9:38:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from inetminas.estaminas.com.br (inetminas.estaminas.com.br [200.251.191.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A602237B62D for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 09:37:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pamplona@uai.com.br) Received: from w95-0sr2 (nas1-17.estaminas.com.br [200.251.117.17]) by inetminas.estaminas.com.br (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA17631 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:37:43 -0300 (GMT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000507133244.007b1680@uai.com.br> X-Sender: pamplona@uai.com.br X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 13:32:44 -0300 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Gustavo Pamplona Subject: Pico BSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What is this? A free version or a commercial version of the BSD I thought was the text Editor: Pico Thanx. --------------------------------------------- Gustavo Pamplona - pamplona@uai.com.br Linux User: 137471 - FreeBSD User: FBSD042237 Linux Slackware 7.0 | FreeBSD 3.2 Release --------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 9:39:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nfinity.com (nfinity.nfinity.com [206.101.78.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C683537B8DB; Sun, 7 May 2000 09:39:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gdcharnay@nfinity.com) Received: from tom.nfinity.com (cx24774-a.omhaw1.ne.home.com [24.3.235.14]) by nfinity.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA20804; Sun, 7 May 2000 11:39:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000507113725.00ad7ca0@nfinity.com> X-Sender: gdcharnay@nfinity.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 11:39:09 -0500 To: webmaster@FreeBSD.ORG From: "G. D. Charnay" Subject: Fwd: Re: FreeBSD Professional Certification??? Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Retransmitted. TS >X-POP3-Rcpt: gdcharnay@nfinity.com >X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 >Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 11:09:11 -0500 >From: "TOM SIMPSON" >To: >Cc: >Subject: Fwd: Re: FreeBSD Professional Certification??? > >Here are some informative comments from an official of The Linux >Professional Institute, which I hope can be forwarded to the proper >parties in the FreeBSD organization. > >This is FYI and any use you may care to make of it. > >Thank you. > >TS >Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 10:59:30 -0500 >From: "TOM SIMPSON" >To: >Subject: Re: FreeBSD Professional Certification??? >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Content-Disposition: inline > >Yes. Thanks, Evan. You gave me much more than I expected, but your >remarks are just about "right on" as to what I expected they might be on >the issues you discuss. > >Please understand that I have no illusions about any of this. If it ever >comes to pass, it will have been a long, hard, and difficult row to hoe >for FreeBSD. > >Thank you again. I will pass your remarks on to the FreeBSD people. > >TS > > >>> Evan Leibovitch 05/06/00 11:34PM >>> >On Sat, 6 May 2000, TOM SIMPSON wrote: > > > I understand that more and more interest is being expressed in a > > FreeBSD Professional Certification Program. Well, I am also > > interested in such a program. Now, I know there are formidable > > problems in developing such a program, but it could be that at least > > the superstructure of such a program, for FreeBSD, has already been > > developed in an open certification program for LINUX. > > > So, I suggest anyone interested in the development of FreeBSD > > Professional Certification take a look at: > > > > http://www.lpi.org. > > > > This is the Linux Professional Institute (from Canada, I believe), and > > they will be offering the LPIC at three different levels, two tests per > > level, 1 , 2, and 3. > >Hi there. > >My name is Evan Leibovitch and I'm one of the co-founders of LPI. It's >based in Canada (as a head office) for a number of reasons (there are few >jurisdictions in the world that allow a corporation to conduct its board >meetings online :-). But it has board members and volunteers worldwide. > >Basics are covered in a reasonable FAQ at http://www.lpi.org/a-faq.html >I'd be glad to answer any other questions about certification in general, >the fun and obstacles we had to encounter on our way to making LPI happen, >and the possibility of doing something along these lines in the BSD world. > >One thing to consider first -- this process is *expensive*. Despite heavy >participation from volunteers, the cost of developing a program that's >challenging and respected rapidly gets into the multi-six-digits. Despite >a fairly long list of Linuxland sponsors (which can be seen at >http://www.lpi.org/a-sponsors.html), who have contributed up to $50K each >at the Platinum level, we're still nowhere near our needs to complete all >three levels. LPI's significant volunteer support has helped keep our >costs substantially below those incurred by commercial certs (ie, MCSE, >CNE, etc) but is still fairly staggering. > >How much would BSDi be able to kick in? How many others would step >forward? This is a real concern to consider before you start. > >One possible option that might be viable if it clears any political >hurdles -- have LPI and the BSD community on LPI-administered, >jointly-developed BSD exams. That would be far less expensive to the BSD >community that doing the whole program itself. > > > I predict LPIC will eventually become the CNE of LINUX, since it is > > OPEN (like LINUX is supposed to be), and non-proprietary, again, > > keeping with the nature of LINUX. > >That's certainly what we'd like, but it'll take time. Consider that the >real "market" for BSD certification is *not* those who are already skilled >in it, but newcomers who need to demonstrate their skills with a piece of >paper. It's not for everyone, and you can expect to come across a >significant "certification is un-necessary" sentiment. It's part of the >reason why, Usenix/Sage is only now even doing basic research after a >*lot* of years of trying. > > > One could do worse than to ask the folks at www.lpi.org for some > > guidance on this subject. They are really doing it. The FreeBSD > > organization could probably do it too, as the concepts behind both > > LINUX and FreeBSD UNIX are not all that different, when it comes to an > > open operating system, IMHO. > >The concepts are similar. If you look at the objectives of the two >existing exams: > >http://www.lpi.org/p-obj-101.html >http://www.lpi.org/p-obj-102.html > >A BSD user who's never touched Linux will still recognize most of it. > >The issue is one of execution and implementation. A cert program is >extremely draining of resources, and the dollar stakes get high in a >hurry. Consider that the *real* consumers, the target market for >certification, is not even the people taking the exams and getting >certified. It's the people doing the hiring, who will eventually demand >the cert or ignore it. There are some people who get certs for the hell of >it, but generally it's a practical issue of career advancement. If someone >won't think that a cert is useful and won't get them a (better) job, then >they won't bother and the cert will die. > >That's why we decided that we needed to go a route that isn't 100% "open" >in some respects. For instance, LPI exams are delivered by the very >commercial, very proprietary VUE organization. While open alternatives >were considered (and may be pursued in the future), the target audience >simply wouldn't respect a cert that wasn;t achieved through a respected >proctoring network. > >Hope this helps. Feel free to re-distribute. > > > P.S. Here are the contact data for The Linux Professional Institute: > > > > The Linux Professional Institute > > 20 Abelard Avenue > > Brampton, Ontario L6Y 2K8 > > Canada > > > > Phone: +1 905 452 0926 > > Fax: +1 905 452 9754 > > > > Email: info@lpi.org > >FYI, the address has recently been changed: >78 Leander Street >Brampton, Ontario Canada L6S 3M7 >Phone/fax: 905 874 4822 > > >- Evan > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 9:40:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web2102.mail.yahoo.com (web2102.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 618DB37BE58 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 09:40:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from allenklu@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 23295 invoked by uid 60001); 7 May 2000 16:40:28 -0000 Message-ID: <20000507164028.23294.qmail@web2102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.102.221.227] by web2102.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 07 May 2000 09:40:28 PDT Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 09:40:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Allen Lu Subject: Re: ipfirewall (ipfw) To: Chris Phillips Cc: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I made the modifications as suggested however I still do not get 216.218.224.107 forwarded to 192.168.1.10. It goes directly to the firewall. Here is my current config: rogue# cat /etc/natd.conf redirect_address 192.168.1.10 216.218.224.107 rogue# cat /etc/rc.conf # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf # please make all changes to this file. # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # gateway_enable="YES" network_interfaces="rl0 rl1 lo0" ifconfig_rl0="inet 216.218.224.106 netmask 255.255.255.248 broadcast 216.218.224.112" ifconfig_rl0_alias0="inet 216.218.224.107 netmask 255.255.255.255 broadcast 216.218.224.112" ifconfig_rl1="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" defaultrouter="216.218.224.105" hostname="rogue.alltopix.com" firewall_enable="YES" firewall_type="open" firewall_quiet="NO" natd_enabled="YES" natd_interface="rl0" natd_flags="-u -m -f /etc/natd.conf" sendmail_enable="NO" gateway_enable="YES" router_enable="NO" static_routes="" router="routed" mrouted_enable="NO" mrouted_flags="" ipxgateway_enable="NO" tcp_extensions="NO" ipxrouted_enable="NO" ipxrouted_flags="" arpproxy_all="" forward_sourceroute="NO" accept_sourceroute="NO" Thank you for your help. Allen --- Chris Phillips wrote: > Hi Allen, > > Throw this line in your kernel as well. > > options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD #enable > transparent proxy support > > Also, change your rc.conf alias line to.. > > ifconfig_rl0_alias0="inet 216.218.224.107 netmask > 255.255.255.255 > broadcast 216.218.224" > > The netmask needs to be 255.255.255.255 or you will > not be able to route > packets between IPs as the machine is looking for > something that is > physically on the net and not just an alias. Packet > forwarding needs to > be on to allow static routing. > > -Chris Phillips > > On Sun, 7 May 2000, Allen Lu wrote: > > > Hi I have a question that I've been trying to find > an > > answer in the docs for a while but can't seem to > get a > > finger on what the problem could be. > > > > I'm using the latest standard release FreeBSD-4.0. > > These are my kernel changes under MYKERNEL to turn > on > > firewall and static natd on two interfaces: rl0, > rl1. > > Followed by my rc.conf. > > > > The problem is packets are not getting forwarded > by > > the redirect_address statement in my > /etc/natd.conf > > file. My goal is to setup a static natd by > translating > > a real internet IP to the public interface (rl0) > and > > redirect it after filtering to the private LAN via > > 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.10. When I telnet to > > 216.218.224.107, it goes to the firewall, not the > > destined client I want. I also cannot ping > > 216.218.224.107 on the firewall itself. 224.107 is > > aliased to 224.106, which is the original ip > address > > of the public card. > > > > KERNEL: > > options IPFIREWALL > > options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE > > options IPDIVERT > > > > rc.conf: > > # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # > > gateway_enable="YES" > > network_interfaces="rl0 rl1 lo0" > > ifconfig_rl0="inet 216.218.224.106 netmask > > 255.255.255.248 broadcast 216.218.224 > > .111" > > ifconfig rl0 alias 216.218.224.107 netmask > > 255.255.255.248 > > ifconfig_rl1="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask > 255.255.255.0" > > ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" > > defaultrouter="216.218.224.105" > > hostname="rogue.alltopix.com" > > firewall_enable="YES" > > firewall_type="open" > > firewall_quiet="NO" > > natd_enabled="YES" > > natd_interface="rl0" > > natd_flags="-u -m -f /etc/natd.conf" > > sendmail_enable="NO" > > gateway_enable="YES" > > router_enable="NO" > > static_routes="" > > router="routed" > > mrouted_enable="NO" > > mrouted_flags="" > > ipxgateway_enable="NO" > > tcp_extensions="NO" > > ipxrouted_enable="NO" > > ipxrouted_flags="" > > arpproxy_all="" > > forward_sourceroute="NO" > > accept_sourceroute="NO" > > > > /etc/natd.conf: > > redirect_address 192.168.1.10 216.218.224.107 > > > > Any suggestions to why it doesn't work? > > > > Allen > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Send instant messages & get email alerts with > Yahoo! Messenger. > > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body > of the message > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 9:43:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fedde.littleton.co.us (fedde.littleton.co.us [216.17.174.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3CD137B62D for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 09:43:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cfedde@fedde.littleton.co.us) Received: from fedde.littleton.co.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fedde.littleton.co.us (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e47Ghgu20412; Sun, 7 May 2000 10:43:42 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200005071643.e47Ghgu20412@fedde.littleton.co.us> To: Gustavo Pamplona Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Pico BSD In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000507133244.007b1680@uai.com.br> From: Chris Fedde Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 10:43:42 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 07 May 2000 13:32:44 -0300 Gustavo Pamplona wrote: +------------------ | What is this? | | A free version or a commercial version of the BSD | | I thought was the text Editor: Pico | | Thanx. +------------------ PicoBSD is a "very small BSD" It'll boot and run from a single floppy disk. Look at http://people.FreeBSD.org/~picobsd/ for more info chris -- Chris Fedde 303 773 9134 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 9:50:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fedde.littleton.co.us (fedde.littleton.co.us [216.17.174.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1195437B568 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 09:50:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cfedde@fedde.littleton.co.us) Received: from fedde.littleton.co.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fedde.littleton.co.us (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e47GnLu21662; Sun, 7 May 2000 10:49:21 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200005071649.e47GnLu21662@fedde.littleton.co.us> To: Thomas Good Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP succeeds...DNS fails In-Reply-To: From: Chris Fedde Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 10:49:21 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 7 May 2000 08:18:21 -0400 (EDT) Thomas Good wrote: +------------------ | Hi. I have user PPP running and my /etc/ppp/ppp.conf file is | in order. I can connect and telnet via IP. But dns is failing | despite my nameservers being listed in /etc/resolv.conf. | | Anyone know what I am missing? | | Thanks, | Tom +------------------ What nature of failure is this? The description above is a bit spase for working out a solution. thanks chris -- Chris Fedde 303 773 9134 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 9:50:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www.can-host.com (www.can-host.com [24.215.1.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A67E37B62D for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 09:50:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin@cyrebels.org) Received: from cyrebels.org (185-143.cgocable.ca [24.226.185.143] (may be forged)) by www.can-host.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04095 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 12:50:11 -0400 Message-ID: <39159E5F.F3BE30B8@cyrebels.org> Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 12:48:31 -0400 From: s0lanine X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: TV cards... quick question.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Are they supported? Are TV cards supported in freebsd 4.0? Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 9:53:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fedde.littleton.co.us (fedde.littleton.co.us [216.17.174.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A17037B76D for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 09:53:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cfedde@fedde.littleton.co.us) Received: from fedde.littleton.co.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fedde.littleton.co.us (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e47GrTu24585; Sun, 7 May 2000 10:53:29 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200005071653.e47GrTu24585@fedde.littleton.co.us> To: s0lanine Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TV cards... quick question.. In-Reply-To: <39159E5F.F3BE30B8@cyrebels.org> From: Chris Fedde Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 10:53:29 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 07 May 2000 12:48:31 -0400 s0lanine wrote: +------------------ | Are they supported? | | Are TV cards supported in freebsd 4.0? | | Thanks +------------------ I have one. The Hauppauge "WinTv" card. It works fine. chris -- Chris Fedde 303 773 9134 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 10: 0: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1527E37B6EE for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 10:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA46320; Sun, 7 May 2000 09:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 09:52:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: Brennan W Stehling Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WordPerfect Office2000 for Linux--Installable? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What you so beautifully outline, Brennan, installs WordPerfect8, the editor, not Office2000. I installed WordPerfect 8 a while ago. What I want to install is the office suite that I bought in a box. Annelise On Sat, 6 May 2000, Brennan W Stehling wrote: > Sure. Go read... > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/editors/wordperfect/pkg/DESCR > > Then go to... > > /usr/ports/editors/wordperfect/ > > And install the port. You may have to go download the file from Corel if > you do not have it already, the put it in /usr/ports/distfiles where the > installation routine will find it. > > Then you do... > > make > make install > > You are all set then Annelise. It is too simple. > > > Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin > projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com > > Microsoft: Will you get a macro virus today? > > On Sat, 6 May 2000, Annelise Anderson wrote: > > > Is it possible to install WordPerfect Office 2000 for Linux on > > FreeBSD 4.0 (Release or Stable)? > > > > The "setup" binary on the cdrom was unrecognized, so I copied it > > to the hard drive and branded it. It then ran, but couldn't find the > > files since it was looking in relative paths. > > > > I therefore copied the entire cdrom to the hard drive and again > > brandelfed the setup binary. It now claims it needs glibc6 or higher > > and can't find /var/db/rpm. > > > > So, maybe I should just give up? This is part of the 10 percent > > of linux software that FreeBSD doesn't run? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Annelise > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 10: 2:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from daedalus.wintek.com (daedalus.wintek.com [208.13.62.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423F237B773 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 10:02:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsdq@daedalus.wintek.com) Received: (from fbsdq@localhost) by daedalus.wintek.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA41008 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 May 2000 12:03:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from fbsdq) From: FreeBSD Questions Message-Id: <200005071703.MAA41008@daedalus.wintek.com> Subject: sendmail 8.10 and SMTP-AUTH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 12:03:27 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to get sendmail 8.10.1 running with SMTP-AUTH. Everything compiles ok and sendmail runs, but AUTH fails. I get this error: sendmail[321]: unable to dlopen /usr/local/lib/sasl/libdigestmd5.so: /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.1: Undefined symbol "ERR_load_RSAREF_strings" in /var/log/messages. I'm running 3.4-STABLE, just did a clean cvsup/buildworld, re-installed openssl & sasl from ports, and re-installed sendmail 8.10.1. Any help would be greatly appreciated! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 10: 4:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from picusnet.com (mail.picusnet.com [207.7.90.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE19F37B773 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 10:04:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wdf@picusnet.com) Received: from picusnet.com [38.38.130.179] by picusnet.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A22B8C200E8; Sun, 07 May 2000 13:04:43 -0400 Message-ID: <3915A230.B2C21FE2@picusnet.com> Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 13:04:48 -0400 From: William Freeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gustavo Pamplona Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pico BSD References: <3.0.6.32.20000507133244.007b1680@uai.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gustavo Pamplona wrote: > > What is this? > > A free version or a commercial version of the BSD > > I thought was the text Editor: Pico > > Thanx. > > --------------------------------------------- > Gustavo Pamplona - pamplona@uai.com.br > Linux User: 137471 - FreeBSD User: FBSD042237 > Linux Slackware 7.0 | FreeBSD 3.2 Release > --------------------------------------------- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message It's kind of like Tomsrtbt (i think that's the name), or Trinux. these are both small linux systems capable of booting off a floppy disk and they run in RAM. they can be pretty handy. As for the text editor thing, there is an editor called pico, but only loosers use it (no offense, just an observation of people i know that use pico). -- William D. Freeman (wfreeman@picusnet.com) http://memebers.xoom.com/EvilGNU -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GG d- s+:+ a--- C++ UB+++ P+ L- E--- W++ N-- o-- K- w--- O---- M-- V-- PS--- PE+++ Y- PGP---- t+++ 5-- X+++ R* tv++ b+ DI++++ D---- G- e-- h! r++ !y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 10: 7: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from listsvr2.telepac.pt (mail8.telepac.pt [194.65.3.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA13A37B84E for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 10:06:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpedras@webvolution.net) Received: from manecao.tafkap.priv ([213.13.96.211]) by listsvr2.telepac.pt (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with ESMTP id pt for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 18:10:23 +0100 Content-Length: 717 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3.1 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 18:06:27 +0100 (BST) From: Joao Pedras To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: laptop Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hello all from these recent models, with all these recent gizmos which laptops should I consider ? are there any particular models with real modems ? and/or nic ? which ? someone with some performance comparisons ? tkx Joao ^\ /^ O O ----------------------------------------o00-(_)-00o-------------------------- If you perceive that there are four possible ways in which a procedure can go wrong, and circumvent these, then a fifth way will promptly develop. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- PGP key available upon request or may be cut at http://www.pedras.webvolution.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 10:16: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nfinity.com (nfinity.nfinity.com [206.101.78.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0904E37B6B5; Sun, 7 May 2000 10:15:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gdcharnay@nfinity.com) Received: from tom.nfinity.com (cx24774-a.omhaw1.ne.home.com [24.3.235.14]) by nfinity.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA21230; Sun, 7 May 2000 12:16:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000507121533.00ad6440@nfinity.com> X-Sender: gdcharnay@nfinity.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 12:15:57 -0500 To: From: "G. D. Charnay" Subject: Fwd: Re: FreeBSD Professional Certification??? Cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here are some informative comments from an official of The Linux Professional Institute, which I hope can be forwarded to the proper parties in the FreeBSD organization. This is FYI and any use you may care to make of it. Thank you. TS Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 10:59:30 -0500 From: "TOM SIMPSON" To: Subject: Re: FreeBSD Professional Certification??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Yes. Thanks, Evan. You gave me much more than I expected, but your remarks are just about "right on" as to what I expected they might be on the issues you discuss. Please understand that I have no illusions about any of this. If it ever comes to pass, it will have been a long, hard, and difficult row to hoe for FreeBSD. Thank you again. I will pass your remarks on to the FreeBSD people. TS >>> Evan Leibovitch 05/06/00 11:34PM >>> On Sat, 6 May 2000, TOM SIMPSON wrote: > I understand that more and more interest is being expressed in a > FreeBSD Professional Certification Program. Well, I am also > interested in such a program. Now, I know there are formidable > problems in developing such a program, but it could be that at least > the superstructure of such a program, for FreeBSD, has already been > developed in an open certification program for LINUX. > So, I suggest anyone interested in the development of FreeBSD > Professional Certification take a look at: > > http://www.lpi.org. > > This is the Linux Professional Institute (from Canada, I believe), and > they will be offering the LPIC at three different levels, two tests per > level, 1 , 2, and 3. Hi there. My name is Evan Leibovitch and I'm one of the co-founders of LPI. It's based in Canada (as a head office) for a number of reasons (there are few jurisdictions in the world that allow a corporation to conduct its board meetings online :-). But it has board members and volunteers worldwide. Basics are covered in a reasonable FAQ at http://www.lpi.org/a-faq.html I'd be glad to answer any other questions about certification in general, the fun and obstacles we had to encounter on our way to making LPI happen, and the possibility of doing something along these lines in the BSD world. One thing to consider first -- this process is *expensive*. Despite heavy participation from volunteers, the cost of developing a program that's challenging and respected rapidly gets into the multi-six-digits. Despite a fairly long list of Linuxland sponsors (which can be seen at http://www.lpi.org/a-sponsors.html), who have contributed up to $50K each at the Platinum level, we're still nowhere near our needs to complete all three levels. LPI's significant volunteer support has helped keep our costs substantially below those incurred by commercial certs (ie, MCSE, CNE, etc) but is still fairly staggering. How much would BSDi be able to kick in? How many others would step forward? This is a real concern to consider before you start. One possible option that might be viable if it clears any political hurdles -- have LPI and the BSD community on LPI-administered, jointly-developed BSD exams. That would be far less expensive to the BSD community that doing the whole program itself. > I predict LPIC will eventually become the CNE of LINUX, since it is > OPEN (like LINUX is supposed to be), and non-proprietary, again, > keeping with the nature of LINUX. That's certainly what we'd like, but it'll take time. Consider that the real "market" for BSD certification is *not* those who are already skilled in it, but newcomers who need to demonstrate their skills with a piece of paper. It's not for everyone, and you can expect to come across a significant "certification is un-necessary" sentiment. It's part of the reason why, Usenix/Sage is only now even doing basic research after a *lot* of years of trying. > One could do worse than to ask the folks at www.lpi.org for some > guidance on this subject. They are really doing it. The FreeBSD > organization could probably do it too, as the concepts behind both > LINUX and FreeBSD UNIX are not all that different, when it comes to an > open operating system, IMHO. The concepts are similar. If you look at the objectives of the two existing exams: http://www.lpi.org/p-obj-101.html http://www.lpi.org/p-obj-102.html A BSD user who's never touched Linux will still recognize most of it. The issue is one of execution and implementation. A cert program is extremely draining of resources, and the dollar stakes get high in a hurry. Consider that the *real* consumers, the target market for certification, is not even the people taking the exams and getting certified. It's the people doing the hiring, who will eventually demand the cert or ignore it. There are some people who get certs for the hell of it, but generally it's a practical issue of career advancement. If someone won't think that a cert is useful and won't get them a (better) job, then they won't bother and the cert will die. That's why we decided that we needed to go a route that isn't 100% "open" in some respects. For instance, LPI exams are delivered by the very commercial, very proprietary VUE organization. While open alternatives were considered (and may be pursued in the future), the target audience simply wouldn't respect a cert that wasn;t achieved through a respected proctoring network. Hope this helps. Feel free to re-distribute. > P.S. Here are the contact data for The Linux Professional Institute: > > The Linux Professional Institute > 20 Abelard Avenue > Brampton, Ontario L6Y 2K8 > Canada > > Phone: +1 905 452 0926 > Fax: +1 905 452 9754 > > Email: info@lpi.org FYI, the address has recently been changed: 78 Leander Street Brampton, Ontario Canada L6S 3M7 Phone/fax: 905 874 4822 - Evan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 10:17:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail-2.sjc.telocity.net (mail-2.sjc.telocity.net [216.227.56.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1040F37B715 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 10:17:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from otter@otter.cc) Received: from otter.cc (dsl-216-227-91-85.telocity.com [216.227.91.85]) by mail-2.sjc.telocity.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29580; Sun, 7 May 2000 10:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3915A518.EEF6EA3D@otter.cc> Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 13:17:12 -0400 From: Otter X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: s0lanine Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TV cards... quick question.. References: <39159E5F.F3BE30B8@cyrebels.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG s0lanine wrote: > > Are they supported? > > Are TV cards supported in freebsd 4.0? > > Thanks > s0lanine, i've heard that there are a few that work. As for specifics, I know the WinTV cards work. They're made by Hauppage. If you find something other than that, look for a BT848 or BT878 chipset (made by Hauppage). Those are known to work well under FreeBSD. -Otter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 10:40: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pogo.caustic.org (pogo.caustic.org [208.44.193.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DAD137B8B0 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 10:39:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jan@caustic.org) Received: from localhost (jan@localhost) by pogo.caustic.org (8.10.0/ignatz) with ESMTP id e47HhRd76423; Sun, 7 May 2000 10:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 10:43:27 -0700 (PDT) From: "f.johan.beisser" To: Marco Shaw Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ed0/ThinkPad/mknod question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG what version of FreeBSD are you using? how recently have up upgraded? the ed0 driver (IIRC) is for 3com cards, is this PC-CARD bus, or a PCMCIA (there is a difference)? give us some details, please. also, have you checked the BSD-Nomads site? http://www.jp.freebsd.org/PAO you shouldn't have to create the device, and if you do, it should't be much more than "cd /dev/ ; ./MAKEDEV ep0" to create it. On Sun, 7 May 2000, Marco Shaw wrote: > If someone could be so kind to give me an 'ls -al' on /dev/ed0... > > I've been banging my head against the wall for a couple of days. I can't > get the networking to work on my ThinkPad 390x. > > My biggest block right now it to get the ed0 device driver to create > itself. I've cleaned up the devices at boot time (boot -c-->visual) to > make sure ed0 was there without conflicts, but it still doesn't show up in > dmesg. > > Now I'm going to try to create the device manually with mknod to see if > that gets me any further. > > pccardd just complains about 'no card in database for ""("")', but I've > copied over pccard.conf.sample to pccard.conf, unless there's something > else... > > Thanks, > Marco > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > +-----/ f. johan beisser /------------------------------+ email: jan[at]caustic.org web: http://www.caustic.org/~jan "knowledge is power. power corrupts. study hard, be evil." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 10:48:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80C337B773 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 10:48:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from C0oLZ3R0@aol.com) Received: from C0oLZ3R0@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v26.7.) id n.a2.40a2892 (4203) for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:47:36 -0400 (EDT) From: C0oLZ3R0@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 13:47:36 EDT Subject: Current Windoze User To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 105 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am currently running an IBM compatible with Windoze 98 v4.10, a 200 MHz Pentium Processor, with 64 MB of memory. I want to add FreeBSD to my computer and run it. Can I have both on my system? And chose which I want to run? Not simultaneously, of course. Thanx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 10:54:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from logatome.francenet.fr (logatome-2.francenet.fr [193.149.96.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B257C37B955 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 10:54:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from e-masson@kisoft-services.com) Received: from localhost.nantes.kisoft-services.com (pppA195.francenet.fr [193.149.100.105]) by logatome.francenet.fr (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e47Hs9S32026 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 19:54:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: 21.1 (patch 9) "Canyonlands" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 9) "Canyonlands" XEmacs Lucid MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Description: forwarded message Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14613.44400.649893.551897@localhost.nantes.kisoft-services.com> Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 19:52:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Eric Masson To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: forwarded message from Eric Masson Reply-To: e-masson@kisoft-services.com Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ed0/ThinkPad/mknod question From: Eric Masson To: Marco Shaw Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 18:45:35 +0200 (CEST) Hello Marco Shaw writes: >If someone could be so kind to give me an 'ls -al' on /dev/ed0... Don't think it's the point, I'm using a TP 390 with a Ne2K clone and I _do_ not have a device file for it. >pccardd just complains about 'no card in database for ""("")', but I've >copied over pccard.conf.sample to pccard.conf, unless there's something >else... Seems that : 1- You have a setup problem with pccardd. or 2- Your card isn't a pccard but a cardbus. It would be helpful to have the following items : 1- Output of uname -a on your box 2- Output of dmesg on your box 3- kernel config file 4- brand & type of your card Regards Eric Masson -- Opinions stated below are mine and can't be considered as official Kisoft Services policy. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 11: 0:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE7937B982 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 11:00:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e47IVQK13063; Sun, 7 May 2000 11:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 11:31:26 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: C0oLZ3R0@aol.com Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Current Windoze User Message-ID: <20000507113126.G15613@fw.wintelcom.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from C0oLZ3R0@aol.com on Sun, May 07, 2000 at 01:47:36PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * C0oLZ3R0@aol.com [000507 11:20] wrote: > I am currently running an IBM compatible with Windoze 98 v4.10, a 200 MHz > Pentium Processor, with 64 MB of memory. I want to add FreeBSD to my computer > and run it. Can I have both on my system? And chose which I want to run? Not > simultaneously, of course. yup, have a look at: http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/multi-os/index.html best of luck, -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 11: 9:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A4B37B8FE for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 11:09:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA57745; Sun, 7 May 2000 11:09:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <3915B15C.B06DDF10@gorean.org> Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 11:09:32 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0422 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken Bolingbroke Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sun Netra serial console --> FreeBSD? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ken Bolingbroke wrote: > > I have a FreeBSD server with a 16-port Digiboard that runs conserver to > provide serial console access to a number of machines. This happily works > with AIX, HP-UX, and miscellaneous hardware like the Ethernet and KVM > switches. But when I plug a new Sun Netra into this FreeBSD server, it > doesn't take keyboard input (screen output does appear, tho). This same > Netra works just fine plugged into a Wyse terminal, and the other machines > work just the same plugged into the Wyse or into my FreeBSD box. So why > doesn't the Netra take keyboard input when connected to the FreeBSD serial > console? How many pins are you using in your cable? For instance, we only use 3 for our FreeBSD serial cables (TX, RX and G) but some of the sun stuff requires more. Also, try twiddling the 'set line' options on the digiboard. Make sure your baud rates, parity, etc. all match what the netra is putting out. If you get a successful resolution, please respond to the list since we may be getting some netras in. :) Good luck, Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 11:16:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc2.occa.home.com (ha1.rdc2.occa.home.com [24.2.8.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76DC37B550 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 11:16:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmedearis@msfreezone.org) Received: from cx262277-a ([24.7.53.254]) by mail.rdc2.occa.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP id <20000507181617.CQHW6205.mail.rdc2.occa.home.com@cx262277-a> for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 11:16:17 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000507111606.0083a7e0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jms039149@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 11:16:06 -0700 To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: jmedearis@msfreezone.org Subject: Recompiled kernel larger than GENERIC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I took the GENERIC kernel on a 3.4-RELEASE machine and removed devices and drivers I knew I did not need -- for example, SCSI controllers, unnecessary NIC cards, etc. I definitely did not add anything or uncomment anything. After recompiling, without the -g option for config, and without options ktrace or any other debugging turned on, I have a kernel that is 4MB larger. What did I do or not do? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 11:18:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www.can-host.com (www.can-host.com [24.215.1.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A43F37B651 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 11:18:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin@cyrebels.org) Received: from cyrebels.org (185-143.cgocable.ca [24.226.185.143] (may be forged)) by www.can-host.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06755; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:18:21 -0400 Message-ID: <3915B308.39C36C5F@cyrebels.org> Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 14:16:40 -0400 From: s0lanine X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Fedde Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TV cards... quick question.. References: <200005071807.e47I76u26572@fedde.littleton.co.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chris Fedde wrote: > On Sun, 07 May 2000 13:14:00 -0400 s0lanine wrote: > +------------------ > | Thanks for your fast reply! > | > | http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10215873 > | > | Is that the card you currently have? > | Plus, can you watch TV full screen and everything...? > | > | Chris Fedde wrote: > | > | > On Sun, 07 May 2000 12:48:31 -0400 s0lanine wrote: > | > +------------------ > | > | Are they supported? > | > | > | > | Are TV cards supported in freebsd 4.0? > | > | > | > | Thanks > | > +------------------ > | > > | > I have one. The Hauppauge "WinTv" card. It works fine. > | > > | > chris > | > > | > -- > | > Chris Fedde > | > 303 773 9134 > | > +------------------ > > A couple issues. On my AMD K6-2 350/Matrox G200 system I can't increase size > to more than abut 1/6 screen without major performance degridation overall. > Also to have the tv image track the window properly I have to run it with > > fxtv -disableDirectV > > Perhaps with a different video card it will work differently. > > Chris > -- > Chris Fedde > 303 773 9134 Ok, then, would you recommend any other TV card for me? Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 11:30:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from majordomo2.umd.edu (majordomo2.umd.edu [128.8.10.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C771437B87D for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 11:30:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac6.wam.umd.edu (root@rac6.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.146]) by majordomo2.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09080; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:30:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rac6.wam.umd.edu (sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac6.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA24513; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by rac6.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24509; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:30:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac6.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 14:30:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: C0oLZ3R0@aol.com Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Current Windoze User In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes you can, in fact check out www.freebsd.org and look in the FAQ and in the handbook, there should be instructions on how to do this. ================================================================= | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around. | | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| ================================================================= On Sun, 7 May 2000 C0oLZ3R0@aol.com wrote: > I am currently running an IBM compatible with Windoze 98 v4.10, a 200 MHz > Pentium Processor, with 64 MB of memory. I want to add FreeBSD to my computer > and run it. Can I have both on my system? And chose which I want to run? Not > simultaneously, of course. > > Thanx > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 11:31:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from po3.wam.umd.edu (po3.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F4337BB4E for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 11:31:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac6.wam.umd.edu (root@rac6.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.146]) by po3.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15618; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:31:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rac6.wam.umd.edu (sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac6.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA24599; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:31:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by rac6.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24595; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:31:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac6.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 14:31:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: jmedearis@msfreezone.org Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recompiled kernel larger than GENERIC In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20000507111606.0083a7e0@pop.mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You may have used the makeoptions -g in your config file. ================================================================= | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around. | | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| ================================================================= On Sun, 7 May 2000 jmedearis@msfreezone.org wrote: > I took the GENERIC kernel on a 3.4-RELEASE machine and removed devices and > drivers I knew I did not need -- for example, SCSI controllers, unnecessary > NIC cards, etc. I definitely did not add anything or uncomment anything. > After recompiling, without the -g option for config, and without options > ktrace or any other debugging turned on, I have a kernel that is 4MB larger. > > What did I do or not do? > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 11:37:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from aragorn.neomedia.it (aragorn.neomedia.it [195.103.207.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B3537C0BD for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 11:37:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bartequi@neomedia.it) Received: from bartequi.ottodomain.org (ppp2-pa5.neomedia.it [195.103.207.114]) by aragorn.neomedia.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA27424 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 20:37:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Salvo Bartolotta Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 19:39:11 GMT Message-ID: <20000507.19391100@bartequi.ottodomain.org> Subject: slightly OFF TOPIC: WordPerfect and downloading via Netscape Communicator ... To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: SuperCalifragilis X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear FreeBSD'ers, I decided to try the free version of Wordperfect; I used Netscape=20 Communicator 4.72 to browse the linux.corel.com site. I did NOT succeed to download the GUILG00.GZ file via Netscape=20 Communicator. That is, the usual trick "save link as" did NOT work, as=20 well as any other idea that came to mind at that moment. Ok, I thought, let's @#~`=A7* [output severely censored] Netscape=20 Communicator. I opened a terminal window, I issued (wait for it) the=20 plain old ftp command, I fed it with the address of one of the=20 Wordperfect downloading ftp site I had found out previously ... et=20 voila, Wordperfect IS being downloaded. Go figure ... but I still wonder whether I have missed anything, ie=20 any brain-damaged tricks making Communicator work in such cases. Thanks in advance and best regards, Salvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 11:38: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73CF937B511 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 11:38:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA22955; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:37:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 14:37:57 -0400 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Sam Carleton Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setting up NIS on FreeBSD Message-ID: <20000507143757.A22542@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Reply-To: cjclark@home.com References: <39149253.4A7233F4@activex-dev.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <39149253.4A7233F4@activex-dev.com>; from scarleton@activex-dev.com on Sat, May 06, 2000 at 11:45:10PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, May 06, 2000 at 11:45:10PM -0400, Sam Carleton wrote: > I have the O'Reilly book on NIS/NFS, but is there some documentation on > NIS for FreeBSD? If so, where about do I go looking for this > documentation? man nis I remember someone had a web page about setting it up. Look in the mail archives. Are you setting up a client or server? Setting up a client is ridiculously easy, 'man ypbind', then set the variables in rc.conf appropriately. A server is quite a bit more fun. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 11:42: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from home.offwhite.net (home.offwhite.net [156.46.35.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352A737B9CF for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 11:41:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brennan@offwhite.net) Received: from localhost (brennan@localhost) by home.offwhite.net (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA75674; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:41:47 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 13:41:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Brennan W Stehling To: Gustavo Pamplona Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Pico BSD In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000507133244.007b1680@uai.com.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It is a very small version of FreeBSD which you can run off a floppy... to do firewalling and routing. I am not sure the status of that project. Search for more info... http://www.greasydaemon.com/cgi-bin/htsearch?words=picobsd&method=and&format=long&config=greasydaemon Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com Microsoft: Will you get a macro virus today? On Sun, 7 May 2000, Gustavo Pamplona wrote: > What is this? > > A free version or a commercial version of the BSD > > I thought was the text Editor: Pico > > Thanx. > > > --------------------------------------------- > Gustavo Pamplona - pamplona@uai.com.br > Linux User: 137471 - FreeBSD User: FBSD042237 > Linux Slackware 7.0 | FreeBSD 3.2 Release > --------------------------------------------- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 11:47: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from home.offwhite.net (home.offwhite.net [156.46.35.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE47D37B997 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 11:46:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brennan@offwhite.net) Received: from localhost (brennan@localhost) by home.offwhite.net (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA75717; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:46:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 13:46:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Brennan W Stehling To: Annelise Anderson Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WordPerfect Office2000 for Linux--Installable? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes, I realized that about 2 minutes after I sent the email when I decided to install WP8 myself. I am thinking that if WP8 for linux can install, you can get WP2000 to install, but you may want to wait until there is a port set up for it. You also create the port yourself, or simply try to install it with the Linux instructions. I would not recommend the latter. Another option is to email the person maintaining the port for WP8 and ask if you can get a WP2000 port. He or she may be able to whip up that port rather quickly with your help. Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com Microsoft: Will you get a macro virus today? On Sun, 7 May 2000, Annelise Anderson wrote: > What you so beautifully outline, Brennan, installs WordPerfect8, > the editor, not Office2000. I installed WordPerfect 8 a while ago. > What I want to install is the office suite that I bought in a box. > > Annelise > > > On Sat, 6 May 2000, Brennan W Stehling wrote: > > > Sure. Go read... > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/editors/wordperfect/pkg/DESCR > > > > Then go to... > > > > /usr/ports/editors/wordperfect/ > > > > And install the port. You may have to go download the file from Corel if > > you do not have it already, the put it in /usr/ports/distfiles where the > > installation routine will find it. > > > > Then you do... > > > > make > > make install > > > > You are all set then Annelise. It is too simple. > > > > > > Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin > > projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com > > > > Microsoft: Will you get a macro virus today? > > > > On Sat, 6 May 2000, Annelise Anderson wrote: > > > > > Is it possible to install WordPerfect Office 2000 for Linux on > > > FreeBSD 4.0 (Release or Stable)? > > > > > > The "setup" binary on the cdrom was unrecognized, so I copied it > > > to the hard drive and branded it. It then ran, but couldn't find the > > > files since it was looking in relative paths. > > > > > > I therefore copied the entire cdrom to the hard drive and again > > > brandelfed the setup binary. It now claims it needs glibc6 or higher > > > and can't find /var/db/rpm. > > > > > > So, maybe I should just give up? This is part of the 10 percent > > > of linux software that FreeBSD doesn't run? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Annelise > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 11:58: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from home.offwhite.net (home.offwhite.net [156.46.35.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005D737B97E for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 11:57:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brennan@offwhite.net) Received: from localhost (brennan@localhost) by home.offwhite.net (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA75765; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:57:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 13:57:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Brennan W Stehling To: Salvo Bartolotta Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: slightly OFF TOPIC: WordPerfect and downloading via Netscape Communicator ... In-Reply-To: <20000507.19391100@bartequi.ottodomain.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I downloaded it yesterday and corel.com routed me to CNet's download.com where I go the gzip file. There is the issue of accepting their license for personal use that make things more difficult, but after clicking a while I got the file to start downloading, then I chose to save the file. But I did this on my Mac and dropped the file on the FreeBSD server over the mounted drive via AppleShare/IP. I do not know any reason why netscape would act any different on FreeBSD. Both versions are 4.72. Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com Microsoft: Will you get a macro virus today? On Sun, 7 May 2000, Salvo Bartolotta wrote: > Dear FreeBSD'ers, >=20 > I decided to try the free version of Wordperfect; I used Netscape=20 > Communicator 4.72 to browse the linux.corel.com site. >=20 > I did NOT succeed to download the GUILG00.GZ file via Netscape=20 > Communicator. That is, the usual trick "save link as" did NOT work, as=20 > well as any other idea that came to mind at that moment. >=20 > Ok, I thought, let's @#~`=A7* [output severely censored] Netscape=20 > Communicator. I opened a terminal window, I issued (wait for it) the=20 > plain old ftp command, I fed it with the address of one of the=20 > Wordperfect downloading ftp site I had found out previously ... et=20 > voila, Wordperfect IS being downloaded. >=20 > Go figure ... but I still wonder whether I have missed anything, ie=20 > any brain-damaged tricks making Communicator work in such cases. >=20 > Thanks in advance and best regards, > Salvo >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 12:40:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oracle.clara.net (oracle.clara.net [195.8.69.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E333C37C0E7 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 12:40:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@clara.co.uk) Received: from [195.8.89.249] (helo=myname.my.domain) by oracle.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 12oWuO-000IAu-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 May 2000 20:40:08 +0100 Received: (from alex@localhost) by myname.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA00398 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 May 2000 20:40:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from alex) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 20:40:20 +0100 From: Aleksandar Simic To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Mixer trouble Message-ID: <20000507204020.A374@frustum.clara.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've just installed Sound Blaster 128 pci sound card under FreeBSD 4.0. dmesg output : pcm0: port 0x1000-0x103f irq 10 at device 14.0 on pci0 Then I did: # cd /dev # ./MAKEDEV snd0 (I've also tried making snd1 before making snd0 but then mixer wouldn't work at all, I then deleted mixer1 and made snd0) Then when I run mixer I get the appropriate values: Mixer vol is currently set to 80:80 Mixer pcm is currently set to 81:81 Mixer speaker is currently set to 80:80 Mixer line is currently set to 78:78 Mixer mic is currently set to 84:84 Mixer cd is currently set to 78:78 Mixer rec is currently set to 73:73 Mixer line1 is currently set to 78:78 Mixer video is currently set to 78:78 (I set them via "mixer vol cd ... from /etc/rc.local ) But when I try to play CD's using wmcdplay -d /dev/acd0c or mp3's with xmms, no sound comes out of speakers. But if I connect my earphones directly to the CD drive I can hear the CD's normally. I have checked my cable connections and they are all in order. When I did the above mentioned steps under 3.4 sound worked but now it doesn't. If you can help me I would be very grateful. -Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 12:45: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (smtp13.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105B237BA89 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 12:44:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from willwong@anime.ca) Received: from magus (HSE-Toronto-ppp91616.sympatico.ca [216.209.43.73]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA11277 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 15:48:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <006e01bfb85c$b7c1d9e0$0300a8c0@anime.ca> From: "William Wong" To: Subject: socks5/irc/icq Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 15:44:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey, I've been experiencing a strange problem now and then with these programs on my FreeBSD 3.4R box. I connect via PPPoE to the net using "ppp -nat -ddial MYISP" and everything's all good. In my ppp.linkup file I first kill any running socks5 daemons and then run socks5 as a normal user, so that when I irc, I get that userid as the ident response. ICQ from my winbox also runs fine. Once in a while, I get disconnected from MYISP. ppp reconnects nicely, the socks5 daemon is restarted and everything goes on as it should....almost. While I can do almost anything (www, mail, news, etc), it appears that anything related to the socks5 daemon doesn't work. IRC and ICQ from my winbox won't work. The programs will just continuously try to connect to the server with no avail. With IRC I can connect to servers, which don't require an ident response. Normally I can when everything is running fine. Here's the strange part: If I manually kill and restart ppp, everything works fine again! Something about reconnecting in ppp and the socks5 daemon just don't mix and I can't figure out what. If anyone can shed any light on this I'd be grateful. Thanks, - Will Here's some extra info: some extra options in ppp.conf that I used: nat same_ports yes nat use_sockets yes nat unregistered_only yes socks5.conf auth 192.168.0. - - # permit auth cmd src-host dest-host src-port dst-port permit - - 192.168.0. - - - deny - - - - - - - # interface hostpattern portpattern interfaceaddress interface 192.168.0. - ed2 interface - - tun0 # extra arguments set SOCKS5_NOREVERSEMAP set SOCKS5_NOSERVICENAME set SOCKS5_NOIDENT set SOCKS5_V4SUPPORT [ SOCKS5_NOIDENT Omit ident requests. Use SOCKS5_NOIDENT to reduce timeouts when you are certain clients are not run- ning identd's ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 12:46:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tim.281.com (tim.281.com [209.84.39.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8160F37C2A6 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 12:46:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rjoe@tim.281.com) Received: (from rjoe@localhost) by tim.281.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA67949 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:46:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjoe) From: Joe Schwartz Message-Id: <200005071946.OAA67949@tim.281.com> Subject: /etc/passwd format change To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 7 May 100 14:46:39 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On a FreeBSD 3.2 machine that I help some folks administer, the /etc/master.passwd file has started issuing short encrypted passwords instead of the long 30+ character ones. It behaves OK except when an e-mail client like Eudora or Netscpae try to authenticate, How do I return the machine to producing the long encryption? Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 12:51:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from home.offwhite.net (home.offwhite.net [156.46.35.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8091E37BA89 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 12:51:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brennan@offwhite.net) Received: from localhost (brennan@localhost) by home.offwhite.net (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA75961; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:51:04 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 14:51:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Brennan W Stehling To: Aleksandar Simic Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mixer trouble In-Reply-To: <20000507204020.A374@frustum.clara.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Read the man page on pcm... man pcm I had lots of problems my pci sb16 card until I read that man page. It explained a great deal. Depending on what you use, you will use snd0 or snd1. I had to use snd1 because it is a pci card. It is explained in the man page. In the kernel config file (in /usr/src/) I have this... device pcm0 The snd0 controller is commented out and so are the other devices, such as sb0 and awe0. pcm does it all apparently. I had to also add a line to my /boot/kernel.conf file. It is... pnp 1 0 os enable port0 0x220 irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 3 It is like different for you as I have an SB16 card. The pcm man page will help you here. I hope this helps. Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com Microsoft: Will you get a macro virus today? On Sun, 7 May 2000, Aleksandar Simic wrote: > Hi, > > I've just installed Sound Blaster 128 pci sound card under FreeBSD > 4.0. > > dmesg output : > > pcm0: port 0x1000-0x103f irq 10 at device 14.0 on > pci0 > > Then I did: > > # cd /dev > # ./MAKEDEV snd0 > > (I've also tried making snd1 before making snd0 but then mixer > wouldn't work at all, I then deleted mixer1 and made snd0) > > Then when I run mixer I get the appropriate values: > > Mixer vol is currently set to 80:80 > Mixer pcm is currently set to 81:81 > Mixer speaker is currently set to 80:80 > Mixer line is currently set to 78:78 > Mixer mic is currently set to 84:84 > Mixer cd is currently set to 78:78 > Mixer rec is currently set to 73:73 > Mixer line1 is currently set to 78:78 > Mixer video is currently set to 78:78 > > (I set them via "mixer vol cd ... from /etc/rc.local ) > > But when I try to play CD's using wmcdplay -d /dev/acd0c or mp3's with > xmms, no sound comes out of speakers. But if I connect my earphones > directly to the CD drive I can hear the CD's normally. > > I have checked my cable connections and they are all in order. > > When I did the above mentioned steps under 3.4 sound worked but now it > doesn't. If you can help me I would be very grateful. > > -Alex > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 12:51:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from picusnet.com (mail.picusnet.com [207.7.90.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE95637BA89 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 12:51:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wdf@picusnet.com) Received: from picusnet.com [38.38.129.161] by picusnet.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A930246008E; Sun, 07 May 2000 15:51:12 -0400 Message-ID: <3915C935.6E466EC0@picusnet.com> Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 15:51:17 -0400 From: William Freeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: making audio CDs from MP3s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have serveral MP3s i would like to put onto audio CD for the rare times i'm not at my computer. since i have an IDE burer, i must use the burncd command. when i go to do this can i do: mpg123 --cdr -s "$I" | burncd -f /dev/acd0c audio and then do burncd -f /dev/acd0c fixate after or what? i've never done this before and don't want to screw up. -- William D. Freeman (wfreeman@picusnet.com) http://memebers.xoom.com/EvilGNU -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GG d- s+:+ a--- C++ UB+++ P+ L- E--- W++ N-- o-- K- w--- O---- M-- V-- PS--- PE+++ Y- PGP---- t+++ 5-- X+++ R* tv++ b+ DI++++ D---- G- e-- h! r++ !y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 13:11:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oracle.clara.net (oracle.clara.net [195.8.69.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F1637BB25 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:11:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from merlin@A470.com) Received: from [212.126.141.178] (helo=A470.com) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 12oXP0-000Jd6-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 May 2000 21:11:47 +0100 Received: (qmail 5958 invoked by uid 1000); 7 May 2000 20:14:10 -0000 Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 20:14:10 +0000 From: Darren Wyn Rees To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: "rm -rf *" - "argument list too long" Message-ID: <20000507201410.M540@netlink.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i Organization: A470 X-No-Archive: yes X-PGP-812C54B1: F8 79 5E 84 F0 20 A5 62 FA 2D E9 BD BE 06 7D 10 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm in a directory with a tonne of files I wish to delete. I type "rm -rf *", but it won't work, it gives "/bin/rm: Argument list too long". So how can I delete these many files ? I can "cd ..", and then "rm -rf ", and that works. However, what if I didn't wish to remove directories. In that case, what would I do to remove the files ? Thanks darren PS. (I'm finding it takes some getting used to putting the operands to many commands immediately after the command. Why is this so with FreeBSD? With Linux I can type 'rm * -rf' etc.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 13:12:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.millennium20.com (smtp.thecyberguys.net [209.79.190.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DBC37BB25 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:12:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glennpj@bayouhome.net) Received: from gforce.johnson.home (1Cust183.tnt2.covington.la.da.uu.net [63.31.31.183]) by smtp.millennium20.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e47J8d302423; Sun, 7 May 2000 12:08:44 -0700 Received: (from glenn@localhost) by gforce.johnson.home (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA41357; Sun, 7 May 2000 15:10:05 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from glenn) From: Glenn Johnson Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 15:09:50 -0500 To: Brennan W Stehling Cc: Annelise Anderson , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WordPerfect Office2000 for Linux--Installable? Message-ID: <20000507150950.A1049@gforce.johnson.home> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from brennan@offwhite.net on Sun, May 07, 2000 at 01:46:51PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 01:46:51PM -0500, Brennan W Stehling wrote: > Yes, I realized that about 2 minutes after I sent the email when I > decided to install WP8 myself. I am thinking that if WP8 for linux > can install, you can get WP2000 to install, ... You can not really make that jump from WP8 to WP2000. The reason I say that is because WP8 is a Linux binary and WP2000 is actually the Windows version with the necessary version of WINE included to run it on Linux. Note that the version of WINE that Corel uses is their own development branch so just installing the FreeBSD WINE port will not get you any further. Somewhere on Corel's Web site I read that the changes they [Corel] were making to WINE were not being incorporated into the WINE project fast enough so they decided to ship their own modified version. Smells like market pressure to me. I have not played with any version of WINE in a very long time but my understanding was that it does not run as well on FreeBSD as it does on Linux. Perhaps Corel's version would run better? -- Glenn Johnson glennpj@bayouhome.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 13:18:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from home.offwhite.net (home.offwhite.net [156.46.35.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C4037BB25 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:18:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brennan@offwhite.net) Received: from localhost (brennan@localhost) by home.offwhite.net (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA76126; Sun, 7 May 2000 15:18:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 15:18:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Brennan W Stehling To: Glenn Johnson Cc: Annelise Anderson , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WordPerfect Office2000 for Linux--Installable? In-Reply-To: <20000507150950.A1049@gforce.johnson.home> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Interesting to know. I think Star Office is a great replacement for WP and Word. It is a full office suite and I am surprised how powerful it is. It runs on just about every system and they are working on the Mac version now. Why go not go with an option that makes it easy to install and then to use. And soon enough KOffice will be just as appealing. That should run on any Unix system you want to compile it on. Corel needs to learn to play the game if they want to be a player. Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com Microsoft: Will you get a macro virus today? On Sun, 7 May 2000, Glenn Johnson wrote: > On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 01:46:51PM -0500, Brennan W Stehling wrote: > > > Yes, I realized that about 2 minutes after I sent the email when I > > decided to install WP8 myself. I am thinking that if WP8 for linux > > can install, you can get WP2000 to install, ... > > You can not really make that jump from WP8 to WP2000. The reason I > say that is because WP8 is a Linux binary and WP2000 is actually the > Windows version with the necessary version of WINE included to run it > on Linux. Note that the version of WINE that Corel uses is their own > development branch so just installing the FreeBSD WINE port will not get > you any further. Somewhere on Corel's Web site I read that the changes > they [Corel] were making to WINE were not being incorporated into the > WINE project fast enough so they decided to ship their own modified > version. Smells like market pressure to me. > > I have not played with any version of WINE in a very long time but my > understanding was that it does not run as well on FreeBSD as it does on > Linux. Perhaps Corel's version would run better? > > -- > Glenn Johnson > glennpj@bayouhome.net > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 13:19:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D27237BBB1 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:19:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA58638; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:18:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <3915CFB1.5A688697@gorean.org> Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 13:18:57 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0422 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marius Vincent Cc: freeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: BIND8 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Marius Vincent wrote: > > Part 1.1 Type: Plain Text (text/plain) > Encoding: 7bit I don't know what kind of weird formatting you used for your e-mail, but it only shows up for me as an attachment, which I can't quote. The answer to your question is that yes, you just make a new db file for the new zone manually, then add it to your named.conf file as a master zone. There is no script for this, unless you have created one. Good luck, Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 13:19:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from peorth.iteration.net (peorth.iteration.net [208.190.180.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C0B37BB35 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:19:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keichii@iteration.net) Received: by peorth.iteration.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 74B255D05; Sun, 7 May 2000 15:19:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 15:19:49 -0500 From: Michael Chin-Yuan Wu To: Ho-Jeong Joe Park Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3D acceleration of RIVA TNT2 ultra card in X 4.0 Message-ID: <20000507151949.A41480@peorth.iteration.net> References: <00050702525700.00811@susan.pinol1.sfba.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <00050702525700.00811@susan.pinol1.sfba.home.com>; from joepark@uclink4.berkeley.edu on Sun, May 07, 2000 at 02:27:56AM -0700 X-FreeBSD-Header: This is a subliminal message from the vast FreeBSD conspiracy project. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD peorth.iteration.net 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 02:27:56AM -0700, Ho-Jeong Joe Park scribbled: | I updated my box to FreeBSD 4.0 stable and XFree86 4.0. I thought 3D | acceleration of RIVA TNT2 ultra card was incorporated with new version of | XFree86, no? In 3.X version of X, a user had to go through a series of | tweaking to take advange of 3D acceleration, but I didn't go through them | because it said that those will be added to 4.0 release. | After I finished updating my X, I tried Morph3D(GL) screen saver to see if | there is any difference, and I see that nothing change--still little jumpy. I | have no problem of using same screen saver in Window98. My box is Piii600 with | 128 ram, so cpu and mem is not the problems. Any ideas? ---end quoted text--- In xf86config, use video card #230 Riva TNT2 -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | keichii@peorth.iteration.net | | keichii@bsdconspiracy.net - Yes, this is a conspiracy. | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 13:21:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from peorth.iteration.net (peorth.iteration.net [208.190.180.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B0637BB35 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:21:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keichii@iteration.net) Received: by peorth.iteration.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C4A845D05; Sun, 7 May 2000 15:21:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 15:21:34 -0500 From: Michael Chin-Yuan Wu To: s0lanine Cc: Chris Fedde , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TV cards... quick question.. Message-ID: <20000507152134.B41480@peorth.iteration.net> References: <200005071807.e47I76u26572@fedde.littleton.co.us> <3915B308.39C36C5F@cyrebels.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3915B308.39C36C5F@cyrebels.org>; from admin@cyrebels.org on Sun, May 07, 2000 at 02:16:40PM -0400 X-FreeBSD-Header: This is a subliminal message from the vast FreeBSD conspiracy project. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD peorth.iteration.net 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG man bktr TV Card support in FreeBSD is limited to Brooktree stuff Happauge WINTV xxxx ATI All-in-Wonder xxxx -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | keichii@peorth.iteration.net | | keichii@bsdconspiracy.net - Yes, this is a conspiracy. | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 13:25:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from peorth.iteration.net (peorth.iteration.net [208.190.180.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B59C37BC2F for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:24:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keichii@iteration.net) Received: by peorth.iteration.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 253485C55; Sun, 7 May 2000 15:24:39 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 15:24:39 -0500 From: Michael Chin-Yuan Wu To: R Joseph Wright Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: compiling with a linux dependency Message-ID: <20000507152439.C41480@peorth.iteration.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from rjoseph@mammalia.org on Sat, May 06, 2000 at 04:00:19PM -0700 X-FreeBSD-Header: This is a subliminal message from the vast FreeBSD conspiracy project. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD peorth.iteration.net 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, May 06, 2000 at 04:00:19PM -0700, R Joseph Wright scribbled: | I'm trying to compile a 3d modeling program called Mops. It depends upon | some libraries which are only available as linux binaries. I get this | error message: | | g++ action.o bbc.o box.o clipsel.o custom.o error.o extrude.o hier.o level.o icurve.o instance.o lights.o misc.o mops.o nb.o nurbs.o nurbutil.o prop.o quadr ic.o quat.o read.o revolve.o shader.o skin.o sweep.o tags.o undo.o wrib.o write .o /usr/local/lib/tk8.2/Togl-1.5/togl.o -rdynamic -o mopssh -L/usr/local/lib -l tk82 -L/usr/local/lib -ltcl82 -lMesaGLU -lMesaGL -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXmu -lXext -lX11 -L/usr/local/lib -lribout -lm | /usr/local/lib/libtcl82.so: warning: tmpnam() possibly used unsafely; consider using mkstemp() | misc.o: In function `mops_gettmp_tcmd': | misc.o(.text+0xdf0): warning: tempnam() possibly used unsafely; consider using mkstemp() | /usr/local/lib/libribout.a(ribout.o): In function `dl_add': | ^^^^^^^^^^^ | This is the linux binary ---end quoted text--- compile the stuff in /usr/compat/linux, install the library in /usr/compat/linux and set the library path to /usr/compat/linux/ during Mops configure [usually with --with-extra-lib= or something similiar] Read the Mops "configure" to find out how you should set it -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | keichii@peorth.iteration.net | | keichii@bsdconspiracy.net - Yes, this is a conspiracy. | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 13:30:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gold.killercomputing.com (ATHM-216-216-77-156.home.net [216.216.77.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FFBF37BB9F for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:30:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pulcher@killercomputing.com) Received: from popgun ([199.233.181.2]) by gold.killercomputing.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA17138; Sun, 7 May 2000 15:31:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from pulcher@killercomputing.com) Message-ID: <02b001bfb864$8ed928a0$02b5e9c7@killercomputing.com> From: "Harold Pulcher - Killer Computing" To: "Darren Wyn Rees" , References: <20000507201410.M540@netlink.co.uk> Subject: Re: "rm -rf *" - "argument list too long" Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 15:41:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG do a man xargs. I think that will do what you need. Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren Wyn Rees To: Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 3:14 PM Subject: "rm -rf *" - "argument list too long" > I'm in a directory with a tonne of files I wish to delete. > I type "rm -rf *", but it won't work, it gives "/bin/rm: Argument > list too long". So how can I delete these many files ? > > I can "cd ..", and then "rm -rf ", and that works. > > However, what if I didn't wish to remove directories. In that > case, what would I do to remove the files ? > > Thanks > > darren > > PS. (I'm finding it takes some getting used to putting > the operands to many commands immediately after the command. > Why is this so with FreeBSD? With Linux I can type 'rm * -rf' etc.) > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 13:31:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from srv8-bnu.bnu.nutecnet.com.br (dlri3-18.bnu.zaz.com.br [200.248.48.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29DCB37BB9A for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:30:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fatboy@linuxbr.com.br) Received: from void.warhocks.org (ip-248-49-101.joi.zaz.com.br [200.248.49.101]) by srv8-bnu.bnu.nutecnet.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA10178 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 17:24:45 -0300 Message-ID: <00b201bfb862$96a89680$6531f8c8@warhocks.org> From: "Jackson Donadel" To: Subject: sco Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 17:26:53 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AF_01BFB849.6F9F56A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AF_01BFB849.6F9F56A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some one know where i can find help to make a sco host work as a gateway = to internet. ------=_NextPart_000_00AF_01BFB849.6F9F56A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_00AF_01BFB849.6F9F56A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 13:33:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from syrenna.deep-ocean.net (ca-ol-bordeaux-7-4.abo.wanadoo.fr [62.161.110.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2834137BB5E for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:33:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olive@deep-ocean.net) Received: from pozeidon (pozeidon.deep-ocean.net [192.168.0.12]) by syrenna.deep-ocean.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA27767 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 22:31:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olive@deep-ocean.net) From: "Olivier Cortes" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: RE: "rm -rf *" - "argument list too long" Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 22:33:06 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2776.0) In-Reply-To: <20000507201410.M540@netlink.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG for FILE in `ls -1 DIR/` do rm "$FILE" done shell script. it doesn't work if files have spaces in their names. have fun :) Olivier > -----Message d'origine----- > De : owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]De la part de Darren Wyn > Rees > Envoyé : dimanche 7 mai 2000 22:14 > À : freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Objet : "rm -rf *" - "argument list too long" > > > I'm in a directory with a tonne of files I wish to delete. > I type "rm -rf *", but it won't work, it gives "/bin/rm: Argument > list too long". So how can I delete these many files ? > > I can "cd ..", and then "rm -rf ", and that works. > > However, what if I didn't wish to remove directories. In that > case, what would I do to remove the files ? > > Thanks > > darren > > PS. (I'm finding it takes some getting used to putting > the operands to many commands immediately after the command. > Why is this so with FreeBSD? With Linux I can type 'rm * -rf' etc.) > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 13:38:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fubar.cns.ksu.edu (fubar.cns.ksu.edu [129.130.12.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7CCF37BB9A for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:38:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdt2101@ksu.edu) Received: from unix1 (jdt2101@unix1.cc.ksu.edu [129.130.12.3]) by fubar.cns.ksu.edu (8.10.0.Beta12/8.10.0.Beta12/tar) with SMTP id e47KcCq29157 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 15:38:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost by unix1 (SMI-8.6/1.34) id PAA08595; Sun, 7 May 2000 15:38:11 -0500 Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 15:38:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Joshua Delong Thomas X-Sender: jdt2101@unix1.cc.ksu.edu To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Application Dependencies (Not make dependencies) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When I start an app in an xterm, it should be completely dependent upon the xterm running, right? I'm curious because I run apps from an xterm and I send it to the background, and when I close the xterm the process continues running. Is that supposed to happen? Josh Thomas -This is my pulaski. There are many like it, but this one is mine.- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 13:38:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from brent.tccsweb.com (cr314206-a.crdva1.bc.wave.home.com [24.113.53.176]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD7F37BB9F for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:38:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brent@talou.net) Received: from talou.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by brent.tccsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05909 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:38:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brent@talou.net) Message-ID: <3915D453.16BE22E8@talou.net> Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 13:38:43 -0700 From: Brent Rector X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: System Halts Temporarily... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey Everyone! I was wondering if there was a setting I can modify to allow for more system processes, it appears that at times the system will hang temporarily during some processes. The machine has plenty of ram as well as lots of swap space.. Any help would be appreciated! Brent -- Brent L. Rector brent@talou.net SysAdmin Talou Internet Services Corp. http://www.talou.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me to advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product. -- OWNED? MS: Who's Been In Your Computer Today? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 13:41:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6776B37BB9A for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:41:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA23352; Sun, 7 May 2000 16:41:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 16:41:39 -0400 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Darren Wyn Rees Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "rm -rf *" - "argument list too long" Message-ID: <20000507164139.A23187@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Reply-To: cjclark@home.com References: <20000507201410.M540@netlink.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000507201410.M540@netlink.co.uk>; from merlin@netlink.co.uk on Sun, May 07, 2000 at 08:14:10PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 08:14:10PM +0000, Darren Wyn Rees wrote: > I'm in a directory with a tonne of files I wish to delete. > I type "rm -rf *", but it won't work, it gives "/bin/rm: Argument > list too long". So how can I delete these many files ? > > I can "cd ..", and then "rm -rf ", and that works. > > However, what if I didn't wish to remove directories. In that > case, what would I do to remove the files ? Someone already pointed to xargs(1). > PS. (I'm finding it takes some getting used to putting > the operands to many commands immediately after the command. > Why is this so with FreeBSD? With Linux I can type 'rm * -rf' etc.) % man rm . . . NOTE The rm command uses getopt(3) to parse its arguments, which allows it to accept the `--' option which will cause it to stop processing flag op- tions at that point. This will allow the removal of file names that be- gin with a dash (`-'). For example: rm -- -filename The same behavior can be obtained by using an absolute or relative path reference. For example: rm /home/user/-filename rm ./-filename See the getopt(3) manpage to see more detail why, % rm * -rf Would not work. With the syntax you describe the above command chokes if there is a file named, say, '-filename' in the pwd. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 13:43:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from home.offwhite.net (home.offwhite.net [156.46.35.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE4FF37BC7B for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:43:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brennan@offwhite.net) Received: from localhost (brennan@localhost) by home.offwhite.net (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA76225; Sun, 7 May 2000 15:42:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 15:42:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Brennan W Stehling To: Brent Rector Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: System Halts Temporarily... In-Reply-To: <3915D453.16BE22E8@talou.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What processes are hanging? I notice that when I am in pine that I often have to wait for delays to end. This is largely due to number of emails in my inbox. Pine just does not handle the mailbox very efficiently. Perhaps this is the delay you are noticing. Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com Microsoft: Will you get a macro virus today? On Sun, 7 May 2000, Brent Rector wrote: > Hey Everyone! > > I was wondering if there was a setting I can modify to allow for more > system processes, it appears that at times the system will hang > temporarily during some processes. > > The machine has plenty of ram as well as lots of swap space.. > > Any help would be appreciated! > > Brent > -- > Brent L. Rector brent@talou.net > SysAdmin > Talou Internet Services Corp. http://www.talou.net > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me > to > advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal > amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft > product. > > -- OWNED? MS: Who's Been In Your Computer Today? > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 13:43:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cytosine.dhs.org (cx272244-a.orng1.occa.home.com [24.1.177.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59BBD37BDE5 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:43:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bhishan@cytosine.dhs.org) Received: (from bhishan@localhost) by cytosine.dhs.org (8.10.1/8.10.0) id e47Khes53125; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:43:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Bhishan Hemrajani Message-Id: <200005072043.e47Khes53125@cytosine.dhs.org> Subject: Re: /etc/passwd format change In-Reply-To: <200005071946.OAA67949@tim.281.com> from Joe Schwartz at "May 7, 2000 02:46:39 pm" To: Joe Schwartz Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 13:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You are using DES encryption, when you want to use MD5. Read the handbook on how to change it. It's just a matter of changing a couple symlinks. --bhishan > > On a FreeBSD 3.2 machine that I help some folks administer, > the /etc/master.passwd file has started issuing short encrypted > passwords instead of the long 30+ character ones. > > It behaves OK except when an e-mail client like Eudora or Netscpae > try to authenticate, > > How do I return the machine to producing the long encryption? > > Thanks. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > ___________________________ | Bhishan Hemrajani | | Finger | | bhishan@cytosine.dhs.org | | for public pgp key. | | | | The best part about mswin | / ) | is that you can dl FreeBSD| / / | with it! | ( ( | | (((\ \> |/ )bhishan@cytosine.dhs.org| (\\\\ \_/ /_________________________| \ / \ _/ / / / / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 13:53:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from brent.tccsweb.com (cr314206-a.crdva1.bc.wave.home.com [24.113.53.176]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C89DF37C192 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:52:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brent@talou.net) Received: from talou.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by brent.tccsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05929; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:51:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brent@talou.net) Message-ID: <3915D75A.C551BF41@talou.net> Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 13:51:38 -0700 From: Brent Rector X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brennan W Stehling Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: System Halts Temporarily... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, We are basically getting the in a variety of areas, the most noticable one is in basic telnet session. I do an "ll" or "ls" and the screen halts.. for a moment., continues, halts again... etc... Brent Brennan W Stehling wrote: > > What processes are hanging? I notice that when I am in pine that I often > have to wait for delays to end. This is largely due to number of emails > in my inbox. Pine just does not handle the mailbox very efficiently. > > Perhaps this is the delay you are noticing. > > Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin > projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com > > Microsoft: Will you get a macro virus today? > > On Sun, 7 May 2000, Brent Rector wrote: > > > Hey Everyone! > > > > I was wondering if there was a setting I can modify to allow for more > > system processes, it appears that at times the system will hang > > temporarily during some processes. > > > > The machine has plenty of ram as well as lots of swap space.. > > > > Any help would be appreciated! > > > > Brent > > -- > > Brent L. Rector brent@talou.net > > SysAdmin > > Talou Internet Services Corp. http://www.talou.net > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me > > to > > advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal > > amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft > > product. > > > > -- OWNED? MS: Who's Been In Your Computer Today? > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Brent L. Rector brent@talou.net SysAdmin Talou Internet Services Corp. http://www.talou.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me to advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product. -- OWNED? MS: Who's Been In Your Computer Today? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 13:57:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from itouch.co.nz (fw2.wilsonandhorton.co.nz [203.99.66.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58EE537B537 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:57:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonc@itouch.co.nz) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by itouch.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA09440; Mon, 8 May 2000 08:20:35 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from jonc) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 08:19:20 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Jan Rocho Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: large files & lpr Message-ID: <20000508081920.A9368@jonc.itouch.co.nz> References: <20000505203321.C13625@flag.blackened.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000505203321.C13625@flag.blackened.net>; from jan@flag.blackened.net on Fri, May 05, 2000 at 08:33:21PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, May 05, 2000 at 08:33:21PM -0700, Jan Rocho wrote: > Hi! > > I've got a small problem with lpr. Today I tried to print a 2mb file and > when I type lpr file.ps I get: > > lpr: file.ps: copy file is too large > > I have about 1,6gb free on my harddrive, 160mb in /var > > I have a HP Deskjet 690C which is configured to use magicfilter and dj550c-filter... that works fine with small files but it seems as if there's a problem > with larger files... can I change the filesize limit somewhere? You could try having a :mx#0: entry in your printer's printcap entry. Check out printcap(5) for more details. -- Jonathan Chen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 14: 6:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from home.offwhite.net (home.offwhite.net [156.46.35.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0C037B549 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:06:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brennan@offwhite.net) Received: from localhost (brennan@localhost) by home.offwhite.net (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA76323; Sun, 7 May 2000 16:06:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 16:06:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Brennan W Stehling To: Brent Rector Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: System Halts Temporarily... In-Reply-To: <3915D75A.C551BF41@talou.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This sounds like a network connection problem. I use to work over a dail-up modem and had that problem all of the time. Now I have a dsl and do not have that problem. The line just got bogged down at times. Too slow. If you are directly working on the machine I would have to say something on the machine is periodically taking the I/O idle time down to 0%. If you can run top while you this is all happening you may find the cause. Look for anything with a large memory footprint which would swap lots of memory out to disk. When a large amount of actually memory is dropped to disk I am thinking that you will notice a short delay. One way to resolve this problem if it is swap out memory to disk would simply be to add more actual memory, but be sure that is the reason first. Memory is cheap, but not that cheap. Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com Microsoft: Will you get a macro virus today? On Sun, 7 May 2000, Brent Rector wrote: > Hi, > > We are basically getting the in a variety of areas, the most noticable > one is in basic telnet session. > > I do an "ll" or "ls" and the screen halts.. for a moment., continues, > halts again... etc... > > Brent > > > Brennan W Stehling wrote: > > > > What processes are hanging? I notice that when I am in pine that I often > > have to wait for delays to end. This is largely due to number of emails > > in my inbox. Pine just does not handle the mailbox very efficiently. > > > > Perhaps this is the delay you are noticing. > > > > Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin > > projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com > > > > Microsoft: Will you get a macro virus today? > > > > On Sun, 7 May 2000, Brent Rector wrote: > > > > > Hey Everyone! > > > > > > I was wondering if there was a setting I can modify to allow for more > > > system processes, it appears that at times the system will hang > > > temporarily during some processes. > > > > > > The machine has plenty of ram as well as lots of swap space.. > > > > > > Any help would be appreciated! > > > > > > Brent > > > -- > > > Brent L. Rector brent@talou.net > > > SysAdmin > > > Talou Internet Services Corp. http://www.talou.net > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me > > > to > > > advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal > > > amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft > > > product. > > > > > > -- OWNED? MS: Who's Been In Your Computer Today? > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > -- > Brent L. Rector brent@talou.net > SysAdmin > Talou Internet Services Corp. http://www.talou.net > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me > to > advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal > amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft > product. > > -- OWNED? MS: Who's Been In Your Computer Today? > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 14:19:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A7A37B537 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:19:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.242.99]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:23:54 -0700 Message-ID: <3915DDBB.F173D586@3-cities.com> Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 14:18:51 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brennan W Stehling Cc: Glenn Johnson , Annelise Anderson , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WordPerfect Office2000 for Linux--Installable? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brennan W Stehling wrote: > > Interesting to know. I think Star Office is a great replacement for WP > and Word. It is a full office suite and I am surprised how powerful it > is. > > It runs on just about every system and they are working on the Mac version > now. Why go not go with an option that makes it easy to install and then > to use. > > And soon enough KOffice will be just as appealing. That should run on any > Unix system you want to compile it on. Corel needs to learn to play the > game if they want to be a player. The only problem so far is what versions KOffice will run with. I seem to remember that you need Qt-2.x and kdevelop and other programs at this point only run on 1.45. You have to choose what you want to run. WordPerfect 8 was such a step up from what WordPerfect Corp. and then Novell did. I hid my "Just Say No" button for Wordperfect when 8 came out. The step to 2000 (WP-9) changed things but it still doesn't cooperate in a civil manner on Windows 2000. It basically wants the whole cpu and if you are running anything in the background, it is really sluggish. I always have things running in the background (Setiathome) and that means SOS on FreeBSD. They also raised the smallest font from 4 to 6, which has forced me on occasions to printing using landscape mode instead of portrait. The problem is some cross referencing programs assume you have 60 lines or so an a page and you suddenly have to look up options you haven't used for years. Kent > > Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin > projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com > > Microsoft: Will you get a macro virus today? > > On Sun, 7 May 2000, Glenn Johnson wrote: > > > On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 01:46:51PM -0500, Brennan W Stehling wrote: > > > > > Yes, I realized that about 2 minutes after I sent the email when I > > > decided to install WP8 myself. I am thinking that if WP8 for linux > > > can install, you can get WP2000 to install, ... > > > > You can not really make that jump from WP8 to WP2000. The reason I > > say that is because WP8 is a Linux binary and WP2000 is actually the > > Windows version with the necessary version of WINE included to run it > > on Linux. Note that the version of WINE that Corel uses is their own > > development branch so just installing the FreeBSD WINE port will not get > > you any further. Somewhere on Corel's Web site I read that the changes > > they [Corel] were making to WINE were not being incorporated into the > > WINE project fast enough so they decided to ship their own modified > > version. Smells like market pressure to me. > > > > I have not played with any version of WINE in a very long time but my > > understanding was that it does not run as well on FreeBSD as it does on > > Linux. Perhaps Corel's version would run better? > > > > -- > > Glenn Johnson > > glennpj@bayouhome.net > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 14:20:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lince.tdnet.com.br (lince.tdnet.com.br [200.236.148.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ABD137BA67 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:20:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kernel@tdnet.com.br) Received: from tdnet.com.br [200.236.148.122] by lince.tdnet.com.br with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.00) id AFDF2E801D8; Sun, 07 May 2000 17:19:43 -0300 Message-ID: <3915B28E.245CF6AB@tdnet.com.br> Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 18:14:38 +0000 From: Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gilad Rom Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD as a Real-Time solution? References: <000601bfb814$9cf19d00$0264a8c0@einhashofet> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gilad Rom wrote: > > Hello, > > I have been using FreeBSD as a Server OS for a long time with great success > and satisfaction, > and now the need has come for a new solution to our production network, > which has several 486/386 machines, > that need a real time OS to monitor production status. > > Question is, could FreeBSD be made suitable for such tasks? > Performance isnt an issue, but I need to make precise time readings from the > parallel port > and timing is critical. Right now I am using DOS, which is pretty much fine > for that, but > I want something better. > > Thank you, > > -- Gilad. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message I think that FreeBSD is not a solution for your needs. FreeBSD isn't bad, but that's not its focus. Try something like QNX and/or Neutrino (http://www.qnx.com). -- "Sometimes I worry about being a success in a mediocre world." -- Lily Tomlin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 14:24:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from itouch.co.nz (fw2.wilsonandhorton.co.nz [203.99.66.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176A737BA67 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:24:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonc@itouch.co.nz) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by itouch.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00876; Mon, 8 May 2000 09:24:14 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from jonc) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 09:24:14 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Joshua Delong Thomas Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Application Dependencies (Not make dependencies) Message-ID: <20000508092414.C685@jonc.ntdns.wilsonandhorton.co.n> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from jdt2101@ksu.edu on Sun, May 07, 2000 at 03:38:11PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 03:38:11PM -0500, Joshua Delong Thomas wrote: > When I start an app in an xterm, it should be completely dependent upon > the xterm running, right? I'm curious because I run apps from > an xterm and I send it to the background, and when I close the xterm the > process continues running. Is that supposed to happen? Yes, if you're not running sh(1). If you're running sh(1), when the xterm dies, a NOHUP signal is sent to the application. -- Jonathan Chen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 14:29:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1456037BA67 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:29:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA23532; Sun, 7 May 2000 17:28:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 17:28:57 -0400 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Joshua Delong Thomas Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Application Dependencies (Not make dependencies) Message-ID: <20000507172857.B23187@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Reply-To: cjclark@home.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from jdt2101@ksu.edu on Sun, May 07, 2000 at 03:38:11PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 03:38:11PM -0500, Joshua Delong Thomas wrote: > When I start an app in an xterm, it should be completely dependent upon > the xterm running, right? No. > I'm curious because I run apps from > an xterm and I send it to the background, and when I close the xterm the > process continues running. Is that supposed to happen? Yes. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 14:34:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9456A37BB9A for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:34:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA60188; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:34:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <3915E157.7BACB1C3@gorean.org> Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 14:34:15 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0422 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cjclark@home.com Cc: Jeff Gray , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ex0: not multicast capable, IPv6 not enabled References: <20000506151637.B18944@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> <20000506211956.D18944@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Crist J. Clark" wrote: > > On Sat, May 06, 2000 at 04:51:42PM -0700, Jeff Gray wrote: > > Crist, > > > > Thanks but.... > > > > > tcpdump(8) would be installed at, > > > > > > /usr/sbin/tcpdump > > > > > > Sure it's not there? > > > > Yes, even updated the locate db and looked again. > > Well, I personally never trust locate(1) anyway. It seems to miss > major pieces of my systems. It skips /usr on the machine I am on for > some reason. /etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate runs locate.updatedb su'ed to user nobody. Therefore anything that isn't world readable gets skipped. So the big question is, why isn't your /usr world readable? :) Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 14:35:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE52C37C108 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:35:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA23558; Sun, 7 May 2000 17:34:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 17:34:47 -0400 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Allen Lu Cc: Chris Phillips , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfirewall (ipfw) Message-ID: <20000507173447.C23187@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Reply-To: cjclark@home.com References: <20000507164028.23294.qmail@web2102.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000507164028.23294.qmail@web2102.mail.yahoo.com>; from allenklu@yahoo.com on Sun, May 07, 2000 at 09:40:28AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Can you turn off the forced line-wrapping in your mailer? It makes things very hard to read.] On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 09:40:28AM -0700, Allen Lu wrote: > Hi I made the modifications as suggested however I > still do not get 216.218.224.107 forwarded to > 192.168.1.10. It goes directly to the firewall. Here > is my current config: > > rogue# cat /etc/natd.conf > redirect_address 192.168.1.10 216.218.224.107 > rogue# cat /etc/rc.conf > # This file now contains just the overrides from > /etc/defaults/rc.conf > # please make all changes to this file. > > # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # > gateway_enable="YES" > network_interfaces="rl0 rl1 lo0" > ifconfig_rl0="inet 216.218.224.106 netmask > 255.255.255.248 broadcast 216.218.224.112" > ifconfig_rl0_alias0="inet 216.218.224.107 netmask > 255.255.255.255 broadcast 216.218.224.112" > ifconfig_rl1="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" > defaultrouter="216.218.224.105" > hostname="rogue.alltopix.com" > firewall_enable="YES" > firewall_type="open" > firewall_quiet="NO" > natd_enabled="YES" > natd_interface="rl0" > natd_flags="-u -m -f /etc/natd.conf" > sendmail_enable="NO" > gateway_enable="YES" > router_enable="NO" > static_routes="" > router="routed" > mrouted_enable="NO" > mrouted_flags="" > ipxgateway_enable="NO" > tcp_extensions="NO" > ipxrouted_enable="NO" > ipxrouted_flags="" > arpproxy_all="" > forward_sourceroute="NO" > accept_sourceroute="NO" > > Thank you for your help. > > Allen > > --- Chris Phillips wrote: > > Hi Allen, > > > > Throw this line in your kernel as well. > > > > options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD #enable > > transparent proxy support This is not needed. > > Also, change your rc.conf alias line to.. > > > > ifconfig_rl0_alias0="inet 216.218.224.107 netmask > > 255.255.255.255 > > broadcast 216.218.224" This is correct. > > The netmask needs to be 255.255.255.255 or you will > > not be able to route > > packets between IPs as the machine is looking for > > something that is > > physically on the net and not just an alias. Packet > > forwarding needs to > > be on to allow static routing. I do not understand why this would not be working for you. Have you made any customizations to rc.firewall? When your system is up and running could you provide the output of, # ifconfig -a # netstat -rn # ipfw show # ps aux | grep natd To see if something strange is going on? > > -Chris Phillips > > > > On Sun, 7 May 2000, Allen Lu wrote: > > > > > Hi I have a question that I've been trying to find > > an > > > answer in the docs for a while but can't seem to > > get a > > > finger on what the problem could be. > > > > > > I'm using the latest standard release FreeBSD-4.0. > > > These are my kernel changes under MYKERNEL to turn > > on > > > firewall and static natd on two interfaces: rl0, > > rl1. > > > Followed by my rc.conf. > > > > > > The problem is packets are not getting forwarded > > by > > > the redirect_address statement in my > > /etc/natd.conf > > > file. My goal is to setup a static natd by > > translating > > > a real internet IP to the public interface (rl0) > > and > > > redirect it after filtering to the private LAN via > > > 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.10. When I telnet to > > > 216.218.224.107, it goes to the firewall, not the > > > destined client I want. I also cannot ping > > > 216.218.224.107 on the firewall itself. 224.107 is > > > aliased to 224.106, which is the original ip > > address > > > of the public card. > > > > > > KERNEL: > > > options IPFIREWALL > > > options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE > > > options IPDIVERT > > > > > > rc.conf: > > > # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # > > > gateway_enable="YES" > > > network_interfaces="rl0 rl1 lo0" > > > ifconfig_rl0="inet 216.218.224.106 netmask > > > 255.255.255.248 broadcast 216.218.224 > > > .111" > > > ifconfig rl0 alias 216.218.224.107 netmask > > > 255.255.255.248 > > > ifconfig_rl1="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask > > 255.255.255.0" > > > ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" > > > defaultrouter="216.218.224.105" > > > hostname="rogue.alltopix.com" > > > firewall_enable="YES" > > > firewall_type="open" > > > firewall_quiet="NO" > > > natd_enabled="YES" > > > natd_interface="rl0" > > > natd_flags="-u -m -f /etc/natd.conf" > > > sendmail_enable="NO" > > > gateway_enable="YES" > > > router_enable="NO" > > > static_routes="" > > > router="routed" > > > mrouted_enable="NO" > > > mrouted_flags="" > > > ipxgateway_enable="NO" > > > tcp_extensions="NO" > > > ipxrouted_enable="NO" > > > ipxrouted_flags="" > > > arpproxy_all="" > > > forward_sourceroute="NO" > > > accept_sourceroute="NO" > > > > > > /etc/natd.conf: > > > redirect_address 192.168.1.10 216.218.224.107 > > > > > > Any suggestions to why it doesn't work? > > > > > > Allen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Send instant messages & get email alerts with > > Yahoo! Messenger. > > > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body > > of the message > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 14:38:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793EF37BA67 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:38:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joepark@uclink4.berkeley.edu) Received: from susan.pinol1.sfba.home.com (c833307-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com [24.11.139.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA01223; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:38:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Ho-Jeong Joe Park Organization: University of California, Berkeley To: Harris Kauffman Subject: Re: 3D acceleration of RIVA TNT2 ultra card in X 4.0 Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 14:45:56 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <4.3.1.2.20000507154659.00cf2700@email.psu.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.2.20000507154659.00cf2700@email.psu.edu> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00050714472000.00508@susan.pinol1.sfba.home.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thank you for info. Maybe I changed to 4.0 rather too soon without getting enough information. ÀÏ , 07 5 2000¿¡ ±ÍÇÏ°¡ ÀÛ¼ºÇÑ ±Û: > XFree86 4 includes acceleration for many cards, but not > all. Anything by nVidia falls into the "not all" catergory. > > nVidia is releasing its own accelerated drivers for XF86-4, but at > the moment they are linux only(and binary-only, so > don't count on the source being ported). > > ~Harris > > At 02:27 AM 5/7/00 -0700, you wrote: > >Hello, > > > >I updated my box to FreeBSD 4.0 stable and XFree86 4.0. I thought > >3D > >acceleration of RIVA TNT2 ultra card was incorporated with new > >version of > >XFree86, no? In 3.X version of X, a user had to go through a > >series of > >tweaking to take advange of 3D acceleration, but I didn't go through > >them > >because it said that those will be added to 4.0 release. > >After I finished updating my X, I tried Morph3D(GL) screen saver to > >see if > >there is any difference, and I see that nothing change--still little > >jumpy. I > >have no problem of using same screen saver in Window98. My box is > >Piii600 with > >128 ram, so cpu and mem is not the problems. Any ideas? > > > >Thank you. > > > >-- > > Ho-Jeong Joe Park > > joepark@uclink4.berkeley.edu > > joep@doubletwist.com > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- ######################### Ho-Jeong Joe Park 510.845.1434 joepark@uclink4.berkeley.edu joep@doubletwist.com ######################### To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 14:40:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED7337BD57 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:40:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joepark@uclink4.berkeley.edu) Received: from susan.pinol1.sfba.home.com (c833307-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com [24.11.139.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA03639 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:40:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Ho-Jeong Joe Park Organization: University of California, Berkeley To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cannot make lynx-ssl Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 14:47:53 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00050714495801.00508@susan.pinol1.sfba.home.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I get following error when I tried to make lynx-ssl from ports: ===> lynx2.8.2rel.1 is forbidden: Riddled with buffer overflows exploitable by a malicious server to execute code as the local user. Any ideas? I'm on 4.0 stable. Thank you -- ######################### Ho-Jeong Joe Park joepark@uclink4.berkeley.edu joep@doubletwist.com ######################### To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 14:46: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.nc.rr.com (fe2.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72FA337BA67 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:46:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@nc.rr.com) Received: from SATURN98 ([24.25.6.109]) by mail2.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sun, 7 May 2000 17:46:04 -0400 Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 17:43:16 -0400 From: Neill Robins X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.39) Educational Reply-To: Neill Robins X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <0738.000507@nc.rr.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cannot make lynx-ssl In-reply-To: <4737.000507@nc.rr.com> References: <4737.000507@nc.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Neill, Sunday, May 07, 2000, 5:42:31 PM, you wrote: NR> Hello, NR> You have to comment out the 'forbidden' line in the makefile, but be NR> aware that this will leave your system venerable. NR> Neill NR> Sunday, May 07, 2000, 5:47:53 PM, you wrote: HJJP>> Hello, HJJP>> I get following error when I tried to make lynx-ssl from ports: ===>>> lynx2.8.2rel.1 is forbidden: Riddled with buffer overflows exploitable HJJP>> by a malicious server to execute code as the local user. HJJP>> Any ideas? I'm on 4.0 stable. HJJP>> Thank you -- Best regards, Neill mailto:freebsd@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 14:49:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from m1.hawaii.edu (m1.hawaii.edu [128.171.94.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593FD37BA67 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:49:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rohrer@hawaii.edu) Received: from uhunix2.its.hawaii.edu (uhunix2.its.hawaii.edu [128.171.44.7]) by m1.hawaii.edu (PMDF V5.2-33 #43585) with SMTP id <0FU700B4ULYAK9@m1.hawaii.edu>; Sun, 7 May 2000 11:49:23 -1000 (HST) Received: from localhost by uhunix2.its.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <182931(8) >; Sun, 07 May 2000 11:49:15 -1000 Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 11:49:14 -1000 From: Matt Rohrer Subject: Re: cannot make lynx-ssl In-reply-to: <0738.000507@nc.rr.com> To: Neill Robins Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 7 May 2000, Neill Robins wrote: > Hello Neill, > > Sunday, May 07, 2000, 5:42:31 PM, you wrote: > > NR> Hello, > > NR> You have to comment out the 'forbidden' line in the makefile, but be > NR> aware that this will leave your system venerable. If you 'sup the latest ports, you can get a patched version w/out the buffer overflow vulnerablities. This has been disscused many times in the last week or so; a search of the archives would have answered your question. -- Matt -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 15: 0:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B6B37BD57 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 15:00:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12oXwh-000LnJ-00; Sun, 07 May 2000 21:46:35 +0100 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.12 #7) id 12oXwh-000CLV-00; Sun, 07 May 2000 21:46:35 +0100 Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 21:46:35 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Darren Wyn Rees Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "rm -rf *" - "argument list too long" Message-ID: <20000507214635.A79359@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <20000507201410.M540@netlink.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000507201410.M540@netlink.co.uk> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Darren Wyn Rees wrote: > I'm in a directory with a tonne of files I wish to delete. > I type "rm -rf *", but it won't work, it gives "/bin/rm: Argument > list too long". So how can I delete these many files ? find . -delete > I can "cd ..", and then "rm -rf ", and that works. > > However, what if I didn't wish to remove directories. In that > case, what would I do to remove the files ? find . -type f -delete Replace "-delete" with "-print | xargs rm -f" for a more portable version, with only a small amount of extra overhead. > PS. (I'm finding it takes some getting used to putting > the operands to many commands immediately after the command. > Why is this so with FreeBSD? With Linux I can type 'rm * -rf' etc.) uh.... If you can really do that with Linux, that's severely weird. It's just common sense as far as I can see to have the options first, I guess it's because that's what I'm used to. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@scientia.demon.co.uk / PGP: 0x99392F7D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 15: 0:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E2637BFD8 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 15:00:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12oXxi-000LnQ-00; Sun, 07 May 2000 21:47:38 +0100 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.12 #7) id 12oXxi-000D8X-00; Sun, 07 May 2000 21:47:38 +0100 Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 21:47:38 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Darren Wyn Rees Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "rm -rf *" - "argument list too long" Message-ID: <20000507214738.B79359@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <20000507201410.M540@netlink.co.uk> <20000507214635.A79359@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000507214635.A79359@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ben Smithurst wrote: > Darren Wyn Rees wrote: > >> I'm in a directory with a tonne of files I wish to delete. >> I type "rm -rf *", but it won't work, it gives "/bin/rm: Argument >> list too long". So how can I delete these many files ? > > find . -delete Sorry, I forgot to mention that these aren't quite the same... My version will delete files whose names begin with a dot, yours won't as the glob expansion won't include those files. Fixing that is left as an exercise. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@scientia.demon.co.uk / PGP: 0x99392F7D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 15: 7: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from manatee.mammalia.org (manatee.mammalia.org.50.231.216.in-addr.arpa [216.231.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 106BC37BA67 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 15:07:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rjoseph@mammalia.org) Received: from localhost (rjoseph@localhost) by manatee.mammalia.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03359; Sun, 7 May 2000 15:06:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rjoseph@mammalia.org) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 15:06:53 -0700 (PDT) From: R Joseph Wright To: Matt Rohrer Cc: Neill Robins , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cannot make lynx-ssl In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 7 May 2000, Matt Rohrer wrote: > On Sun, 7 May 2000, Neill Robins wrote: > > > Hello Neill, > > > > Sunday, May 07, 2000, 5:42:31 PM, you wrote: > > > > NR> Hello, > > > > NR> You have to comment out the 'forbidden' line in the makefile, but be > > NR> aware that this will leave your system venerable. > > If you 'sup the latest ports, you can get a patched version w/out the > buffer overflow vulnerablities. This has been disscused many times in > the last week or so; a search of the archives would have answered your > question. > That's not true of the lynx-ssl version being discussed. It is still forbidden. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 15: 8:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail-1.sjc.telocity.net (mail-1.sjc.telocity.net [216.227.56.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B147037BF32 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 15:08:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from otter@otter.cc) Received: from otter.cc (dsl-216-227-91-85.telocity.com [216.227.91.85]) by mail-1.sjc.telocity.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25003 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 15:06:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3915E962.DDB1AF8E@otter.cc> Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 18:08:34 -0400 From: Otter X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: [Fwd: System Halts Temporarily...] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brent Rector wrote: > > Hi, > > We are basically getting the in a variety of areas, the most noticable > one is in basic telnet session. > > I do an "ll" or "ls" and the screen halts.. for a moment., continues, > halts again... etc... > Are you positive it's not a network issue? Does this "hanging" ever happen while working locally on a LAN or just during remote sessions? Just another point to consider... -Otter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 15:26:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B351337B523 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 15:26:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA23699; Sun, 7 May 2000 18:23:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 18:23:14 -0400 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Doug Barton Cc: cjclark@home.com, Jeff Gray , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ex0: not multicast capable, IPv6 not enabled Message-ID: <20000507182314.D23187@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Reply-To: cjclark@home.com References: <20000506151637.B18944@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> <20000506211956.D18944@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> <3915E157.7BACB1C3@gorean.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <3915E157.7BACB1C3@gorean.org>; from DougB@gorean.org on Sun, May 07, 2000 at 02:34:15PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 02:34:15PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > "Crist J. Clark" wrote: > > > > On Sat, May 06, 2000 at 04:51:42PM -0700, Jeff Gray wrote: > > > Crist, > > > > > > Thanks but.... > > > > > > > tcpdump(8) would be installed at, > > > > > > > > /usr/sbin/tcpdump > > > > > > > > Sure it's not there? > > > > > > Yes, even updated the locate db and looked again. > > > > Well, I personally never trust locate(1) anyway. It seems to miss > > major pieces of my systems. It skips /usr on the machine I am on for > > some reason. > > /etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate runs locate.updatedb su'ed to user > nobody. Therefore anything that isn't world readable gets skipped. So > the big question is, why isn't your /usr world readable? :) [117:~] ls -ld /usr drwxr-xr-x 20 root wheel 512 Mar 23 21:53 /usr -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 15:27:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 368BE37B685 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 15:27:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id HAA61310; Mon, 8 May 2000 07:57:07 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 07:57:07 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Marco Shaw , "f.johan.beisser" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ed0/ThinkPad/mknod question Message-ID: <20000508075707.J55316@freebie.lemis.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 7 May 2000 at 11:52:48 -0300, Marco Shaw wrote: > If someone could be so kind to give me an 'ls -al' on /dev/ed0... > > I've been banging my head against the wall for a couple of days. I > can't get the networking to work on my ThinkPad 390x. It sounds like you're talking about the Ethernet card, but you haven't said which one. > My biggest block right now it to get the ed0 device driver to create > itself. There are no device entries for Ethernet cards. > I've cleaned up the devices at boot time (boot -c-->visual) to make > sure ed0 was there without conflicts, but it still doesn't show up > in dmesg. > > Now I'm going to try to create the device manually with mknod to see > if that gets me any further. That's impossible. First you need a major device number, but there isn't one. > pccardd just complains about 'no card in database for ""("")', but > I've copied over pccard.conf.sample to pccard.conf, unless there's > something else... This typically means that it's misreading the CIS information from a CardBus card. We don't support CardBus yet. On Sunday, 7 May 2000 at 10:43:27 -0700, f.johan.beisser wrote: > you shouldn't have to create the device, and if you do, it should't > be much more than "cd /dev/ ; ./MAKEDEV ep0" to create it. Please check this sort of statement before posting it. There is no such device, so MAKEDEV will not work. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 15:47:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from syrenna.deep-ocean.net (ca-ol-bordeaux-7-4.abo.wanadoo.fr [62.161.110.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF7637B685 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 15:47:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olive@deep-ocean.net) Received: from pozeidon (pozeidon.deep-ocean.net [192.168.0.12]) by syrenna.deep-ocean.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA28376; Mon, 8 May 2000 00:44:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olive@deep-ocean.net) From: "Olivier Cortes" To: "Allen Lu" , "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: RE: ipfirewall (ipfw) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 00:46:03 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2776.0) In-Reply-To: <20000507164028.23294.qmail@web2102.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cannot explicitely help you because i didn't use redirect_address. But : for specific services (HTTP, FTP, SMTP, SSH, ant POP), i use the feature redirect_port tcp :port port, e.g. "redirect_port 192.168.0.2:25 25". it works like this : everything coming on the port 25 of the firewall on the natd interface is redirected to 192.168.0.2:25. knowing that all other services are disabled (security) and all other ports are closed, it's a good maner to do things. of course, i'm open to anything anyone finds better. Olivier > -----Message d'origine----- > De : owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]De la part de Allen Lu > Envoyé : dimanche 7 mai 2000 18:40 > À : Chris Phillips > Cc : questions@freebsd.org > Objet : Re: ipfirewall (ipfw) > > > Hi I made the modifications as suggested however I > still do not get 216.218.224.107 forwarded to > 192.168.1.10. It goes directly to the firewall. Here > is my current config: > > rogue# cat /etc/natd.conf > redirect_address 192.168.1.10 216.218.224.107 > rogue# cat /etc/rc.conf > # This file now contains just the overrides from > /etc/defaults/rc.conf > # please make all changes to this file. > > # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # > gateway_enable="YES" > network_interfaces="rl0 rl1 lo0" > ifconfig_rl0="inet 216.218.224.106 netmask > 255.255.255.248 broadcast 216.218.224.112" > ifconfig_rl0_alias0="inet 216.218.224.107 netmask > 255.255.255.255 broadcast 216.218.224.112" > ifconfig_rl1="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" > defaultrouter="216.218.224.105" > hostname="rogue.alltopix.com" > firewall_enable="YES" > firewall_type="open" > firewall_quiet="NO" > natd_enabled="YES" > natd_interface="rl0" > natd_flags="-u -m -f /etc/natd.conf" > sendmail_enable="NO" > gateway_enable="YES" > router_enable="NO" > static_routes="" > router="routed" > mrouted_enable="NO" > mrouted_flags="" > ipxgateway_enable="NO" > tcp_extensions="NO" > ipxrouted_enable="NO" > ipxrouted_flags="" > arpproxy_all="" > forward_sourceroute="NO" > accept_sourceroute="NO" > > Thank you for your help. > > Allen > > --- Chris Phillips wrote: > > Hi Allen, > > > > Throw this line in your kernel as well. > > > > options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD #enable > > transparent proxy support > > > > Also, change your rc.conf alias line to.. > > > > ifconfig_rl0_alias0="inet 216.218.224.107 netmask > > 255.255.255.255 > > broadcast 216.218.224" > > > > The netmask needs to be 255.255.255.255 or you will > > not be able to route > > packets between IPs as the machine is looking for > > something that is > > physically on the net and not just an alias. Packet > > forwarding needs to > > be on to allow static routing. > > > > -Chris Phillips > > > > On Sun, 7 May 2000, Allen Lu wrote: > > > > > Hi I have a question that I've been trying to find > > an > > > answer in the docs for a while but can't seem to > > get a > > > finger on what the problem could be. > > > > > > I'm using the latest standard release FreeBSD-4.0. > > > These are my kernel changes under MYKERNEL to turn > > on > > > firewall and static natd on two interfaces: rl0, > > rl1. > > > Followed by my rc.conf. > > > > > > The problem is packets are not getting forwarded > > by > > > the redirect_address statement in my > > /etc/natd.conf > > > file. My goal is to setup a static natd by > > translating > > > a real internet IP to the public interface (rl0) > > and > > > redirect it after filtering to the private LAN via > > > 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.10. When I telnet to > > > 216.218.224.107, it goes to the firewall, not the > > > destined client I want. I also cannot ping > > > 216.218.224.107 on the firewall itself. 224.107 is > > > aliased to 224.106, which is the original ip > > address > > > of the public card. > > > > > > KERNEL: > > > options IPFIREWALL > > > options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE > > > options IPDIVERT > > > > > > rc.conf: > > > # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # > > > gateway_enable="YES" > > > network_interfaces="rl0 rl1 lo0" > > > ifconfig_rl0="inet 216.218.224.106 netmask > > > 255.255.255.248 broadcast 216.218.224 > > > .111" > > > ifconfig rl0 alias 216.218.224.107 netmask > > > 255.255.255.248 > > > ifconfig_rl1="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask > > 255.255.255.0" > > > ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" > > > defaultrouter="216.218.224.105" > > > hostname="rogue.alltopix.com" > > > firewall_enable="YES" > > > firewall_type="open" > > > firewall_quiet="NO" > > > natd_enabled="YES" > > > natd_interface="rl0" > > > natd_flags="-u -m -f /etc/natd.conf" > > > sendmail_enable="NO" > > > gateway_enable="YES" > > > router_enable="NO" > > > static_routes="" > > > router="routed" > > > mrouted_enable="NO" > > > mrouted_flags="" > > > ipxgateway_enable="NO" > > > tcp_extensions="NO" > > > ipxrouted_enable="NO" > > > ipxrouted_flags="" > > > arpproxy_all="" > > > forward_sourceroute="NO" > > > accept_sourceroute="NO" > > > > > > /etc/natd.conf: > > > redirect_address 192.168.1.10 216.218.224.107 > > > > > > Any suggestions to why it doesn't work? > > > > > > Allen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Send instant messages & get email alerts with > > Yahoo! Messenger. > > > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body > > of the message > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 15:57:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.noc0.hsacorp.net (mail1.noc0.hsacorp.net [208.247.171.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95CE637B6BB for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 15:57:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jconner@enterit.com) Received: from [24.216.177.146] (HELO default.enterit.com) by mail1.noc0.hsacorp.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with ESMTP id 11747058; Sun, 07 May 2000 18:57:11 -0400 Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000507185919.01f48a10@pseudonet.org> X-Sender: jconner@mail.enterit.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 19:03:24 -0400 To: Ben Smithurst , Darren Wyn Rees From: Jim Conner Subject: Re: "rm -rf *" - "argument list too long" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20000507214635.A79359@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <20000507201410.M540@netlink.co.uk> <20000507201410.M540@netlink.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 09:46 PM 5/7/00 +0100, Ben Smithurst wrote: >Darren Wyn Rees wrote: > > > I'm in a directory with a tonne of files I wish to delete. > > I type "rm -rf *", but it won't work, it gives "/bin/rm: Argument > > list too long". So how can I delete these many files ? > >find . -delete > > > I can "cd ..", and then "rm -rf ", and that works. > > > > However, what if I didn't wish to remove directories. In that > > case, what would I do to remove the files ? > >find . -type f -delete > >Replace "-delete" with "-print | xargs rm -f" for a more portable >version, with only a small amount of extra overhead. > > > PS. (I'm finding it takes some getting used to putting > > the operands to many commands immediately after the command. > > Why is this so with FreeBSD? With Linux I can type 'rm * -rf' etc.) > >uh.... If you can really do that with Linux, that's severely weird. >It's just common sense as far as I can see to have the options first, I >guess it's because that's what I'm used to. Wierd? Hmm...perhaps...but it is probably something Linux does. I have personally never tried it but I have noticed that Linux bins (some not all) have the capability to accept "post-"arguments. For instance...the ls command accepts arguments like: ls filename -al However, BSD won't accept this. Apparently it is something against the POSIX standard??? I dunno about that. But the idea that Linux's rm command accepts post-arguments doesn't surprise me. I don't really have an opinion for or against it either. Personally, it makes sense to me to put the arguments before the list however, apparently there are people out there who prefer the opposing. - Jim >-- >Ben Smithurst / ben@scientia.demon.co.uk / PGP: 0x99392F7D > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Today's errors, in contrast: Windows - "Invalid page fault in module kernel32.dll at 0032:A16F2935" UNIX - "segmentation fault - core dumped" Humanous Beingsus - "OOPS, I've fallen and I can't get up" ------------------------------- Jim Conner NOTJames jconner@enterit.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 15:57:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from milquetoast.cs.mcgill.ca (milquetoast.CS.McGill.CA [132.206.2.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674F437B995 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 15:57:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrewb@milquetoast.cs.mcgill.ca) Received: (from andrewb@localhost) by milquetoast.cs.mcgill.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA15677 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 7 May 2000 18:57:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 18:57:34 -0400 From: Andrew Bogecho To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ppp -nat and -alias woes Message-ID: <20000507185734.A15497@cs.mcgill.ca> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.15i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I have been having a big problem with my internal network. I am using PPPoE. Below is my configuration file. I must say that everything works, other than port forwarding. I only have one forwarding line, and no matter what I have tried I cannot get it to work. Any help would be appreciated. # /etc/ppp/ppp.conf - beginning # # PPP Version 2.26 - Mar 20 2000 # default: set device PPPoE:dc0 set MRU 1492 set MTU 1492 set authname ********@sympatico.ca set authkey ******** set log Phase tun command set dial set login set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 add default HISADDR set cd 5 set crtscts off # Only added the line below so that I could use pppctl set server /var/run/internet "" 0177 # Comments were removed when I was testing # alias enable yes # alias port tcp 192.168.1.21:80 80 # alias log yes # nat enable yes # nat port tcp 192.168.1.21:80 80 # nat log yes papchap: set authname ********@sympatico.ca set authkey ******** ##### # /etc/ppp/ppp.conf - end Please note that I tried both the alias version and the nat version to no avail. I do have a network connection from my internal network out, but I cannot get the port forwarding. Below is my netstat table: Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire 0/24 link#1 UC dc0 => default 64.228.205.1 UGSc tun0 64.228.205.1 64.228.205.204 UH tun0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH lo0 192.168.1 link#2 UC xl0 => 192.168.1.10 0:a0:c:c1:65:bf UHLW xl0 684 192.168.1.11 0:0:e2:29:b6:b1 UHLW xl0 433 192.168.1.26 0:a0:c:c1:67:2 UHLW xl0 943 192.168.1.30 0:a0:c:c1:65:bf UHLW xl0 1175 192.168.1.248 0:10:4b:7a:53:58 UHLW xl0 1180 192.168.1.249 0:a0:c:c1:46:be UHLW xl0 1140 My /sbin/ifconfig -a dc0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 0.0.0.255 ether 00:a0:0c:c1:42:8b media: autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: active supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UT P 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX none xl0: flags=8843 mtu 1492 inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 inet 192.168.1.3 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ether 00:10:4b:13:7e:6a media: autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UT P 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 gif0: flags=8010 mtu 1280 gif1: flags=8010 mtu 1280 gif2: flags=8010 mtu 1280 gif3: flags=8010 mtu 1280 stf0: flags=8000 mtu 1280 faith0: flags=8000 mtu 1500 tun0: flags=8151 mtu 1492 inet 64.228.205.204 --> 64.228.205.1 netmask 0xff000000 Opened by PID 576 I have also tried using pppctl and typing in the commands by hand, but have had no luck. Am I missing something? Thanks in advance for all those that try to help. Andrew. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 15:59:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from milquetoast.cs.mcgill.ca (milquetoast.CS.McGill.CA [132.206.2.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 257E837B995 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 15:59:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrewb@milquetoast.cs.mcgill.ca) Received: (from andrewb@localhost) by milquetoast.cs.mcgill.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA15718 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 7 May 2000 18:59:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 18:59:55 -0400 From: Andrew Bogecho To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppp -nat and -alias woes Message-ID: <20000507185955.B15497@cs.mcgill.ca> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000507185734.A15497@cs.mcgill.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.15i In-Reply-To: <20000507185734.A15497@cs.mcgill.ca>; from Andrew Bogecho on Sun, May 07, 2000 at 06:57:34PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I forgot to mention that I am using : FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE Sorry. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 16: 0:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hawaii.rr.com (hnlmail3.hawaii.rr.com [24.25.227.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60DCA37BAFD for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 16:00:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from TRAVISP001@hawaii.rr.com) Received: from 1c09q ([24.161.128.127]) by hawaii.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 7 May 2000 13:00:55 -1000 From: "Paul E Travis" To: Subject: Novice needs help Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 13:02:08 -1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I hope your not upset w/ a novice asking a question but I could really use some help regarding the installation/configuration of BSD. I am a home pc user interested in running BSD for home use alongside Windows 98. My original setup was Windows 98 on my 9G hard drive (FAT 32-IDE). Using Partition Magic, I created a second 1.5G primary partition (FAT) in front of the FAT32. I'd like to use the 1.5G for the BSD OS. My problem comes after I boot into the FAT partition w/ the kern/mfsroot disks during the configuration process (before actually installing the dist files from the CDROM). For some reason, after assigning the 1.5G partition as Freebsd in the fdisk menu, I am unable create the file systems (root, user, and swap space)in the disk label menu. I receive the message that the disk space is too large. This also happens after resizing the partition to less than 500M. I can get around this problem if I just use the entire disk(all 9G's) which I obviously don't want to do because I'd like to run multiple OS's. I'm pretty convinced I'm doing something wrong in setting up my disk to install BSD and would GREATLY appreciate any help you could extend. I'm anxious to use BSD but would like to be able to do it w/o running it off a separate hard drive. Thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule to help out an inexperienced newbie.. Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 16:13:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from enzo.vangyzen.net (dialup-245-108.greenvillenc.com [208.25.245.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E644937BAFD for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 16:13:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vangyzen@enzo.vangyzen.net) Received: (from vangyzen@localhost) by enzo.vangyzen.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA24988 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 May 2000 19:14:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from vangyzen) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 19:14:24 -0400 From: "Eric S. Van Gyzen" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Simple SLIP Setup Message-ID: <20000507191424.A24967@enzo.vangyzen.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My home network of four machines uses the 192.168.1.0/24 network. I just bought a laptop with no ethernet card and would like to connect it to one of my FreeBSD workstations with an RS-232 cable and SLIP. What address/netmask should I give the laptop? Should it be one in the class C that my other machines use, or since it will not be directly connected to the Ethernet, should it be from some other subnet, such as 192.168.2.0/24? If it should come from another subnet, will I need to give the workstation a second (alias) IP from that subnet? Should the subnet mask be 0xffffffff or 0xffffff00? As far as routing, since I have only four machines, setting up static routes to the laptop on each machine would not be a problem. These are simple questions to which I should know the answers, but I just want to be certain and do this The Right Way. Please Cc: any replies directly to me, as I am not subscribed to -questions. Thank you in advance for your advice. -- Eric S. Van Gyzen eric@vangyzen.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 16:19: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from aragorn.neomedia.it (aragorn.neomedia.it [195.103.207.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9551537BB4E for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 16:18:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bartequi@neomedia.it) Received: from bartequi.ottodomain.org (ppp1-pa5.neomedia.it [195.103.207.113]) by aragorn.neomedia.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA16917 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 01:18:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Salvo Bartolotta Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 00:20:52 GMT Message-ID: <20000508.205200@bartequi.ottodomain.org> Subject: WordPerfect far from being perfect ... To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: SuperCalifragilis X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear FreeBSD'ers, I have just installed Wordperfect 8 via the port under a 3.4-STABLE (as of 25 April) system of mine. It is no joy. When I load it for the first time, it takes *minutes* just to show a "save file" window or an "open file" window on my PIII 450 Mhz 384MB RAM. Then it behaves normally. Resources should BY NO MEANS be an issue. I can't seem to find information about this problem in the archives. Is anyone else experiencing this ? Is WP8 simply hopeless for the time being ? Am I missing anything ? Thanks in advance, Salvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 16:44:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2215537B540 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 16:44:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA61142; Sun, 7 May 2000 16:44:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <3915FFEF.BFF45988@gorean.org> Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 16:44:47 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0422 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Salvo Bartolotta Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: slightly OFF TOPIC: WordPerfect and downloading via Netscape Communicator ... References: <20000507.19391100@bartequi.ottodomain.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Salvo Bartolotta wrote: > > Dear FreeBSD'ers, > > I decided to try the free version of Wordperfect; I used Netscape > Communicator 4.72 to browse the linux.corel.com site. > > I did NOT succeed to download the GUILG00.GZ file via Netscape > Communicator. That is, the usual trick "save link as" did NOT work, as > well as any other idea that came to mind at that moment. > > Ok, I thought, let's @#~`§* [output severely censored] Netscape > Communicator. I opened a terminal window, I issued (wait for it) the > plain old ftp command, I fed it with the address of one of the > Wordperfect downloading ftp site I had found out previously ... et > voila, Wordperfect IS being downloaded. > > Go figure ... but I still wonder whether I have missed anything, ie > any brain-damaged tricks making Communicator work in such cases. Actually it's the brain damaged configuration of the word perfect site's web server. Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 16:51: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6AC037B539 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 16:51:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA61179; Sun, 7 May 2000 16:50:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <39160161.4BCFEFE3@gorean.org> Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 16:50:57 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0422 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Darren Wyn Rees Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "rm -rf *" - "argument list too long" References: <20000507201410.M540@netlink.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Darren Wyn Rees wrote: > > I'm in a directory with a tonne of files I wish to delete. > I type "rm -rf *", but it won't work, it gives "/bin/rm: Argument > list too long". So how can I delete these many files ? > > I can "cd ..", and then "rm -rf ", and that works. > > However, what if I didn't wish to remove directories. In that > case, what would I do to remove the files ? First, ignore the overly complicated and potentially dangerous answers so far on this thread. :) Second, think about it for a minute. If "*" provides a list that's too long for rm to handle, why not break it up into smaller chunks? For example, if your files mainly have alpha characters in their names, do something like: rm [a-c]* Starting with larger chunks, and going smaller as needed till the error messages disappear. Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 16:54:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (smtp13.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD55A37B539 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 16:54:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eric.boucher24@sympatico.ca) Received: from sympatico.ca (ppp10031.qc.bellglobal.com [206.172.154.184]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA28671 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 19:57:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39160183.D9C149F7@sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 19:51:31 -0400 From: Boucher Eric Reply-To: eric.boucher24@sympatico.ca X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [fr]C-SYMPA (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Bug with winNT and BSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I recently install FreeBSD on my machine and I found it very interesting. The problem is that I had winNT on the same hard drive and now , I can't boot it anymore. When I turn the power on, I have the choice of FreeBSD and Dos, and when I choose Dos, I have to choose for winNT. Then there's a message that said that winNT cannot found a file (??kern??.exe), and if I go look from the dos editor in the directory where it suppose to be, it is there. So what can be the problem? Thanks eric.boucher24@sympatico.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 17: 2: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from syrenna.deep-ocean.net (ca-ol-bordeaux-7-4.abo.wanadoo.fr [62.161.110.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8BE37B925 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 17:02:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olive@deep-ocean.net) Received: from pozeidon (pozeidon.deep-ocean.net [192.168.0.12]) by syrenna.deep-ocean.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA28684; Mon, 8 May 2000 01:58:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olive@deep-ocean.net) From: "Olivier Cortes" To: "Doug Barton" , "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: RE: "rm -rf *" - "argument list too long" Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 01:59:58 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2776.0) In-Reply-To: <39160161.4BCFEFE3@gorean.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG yeah ! great answer ! I use to be too sophisticated. thanks to pull me back to simplicity :) Olivier PS: but don't you think a little program written in perl ou c could.... Okay, i shut up :) > -----Message d'origine----- > De : owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]De la part de Doug Barton > Envoyé : lundi 8 mai 2000 01:51 > À : Darren Wyn Rees > Cc : freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Objet : Re: "rm -rf *" - "argument list too long" > > > Darren Wyn Rees wrote: > > > > I'm in a directory with a tonne of files I wish to delete. > > I type "rm -rf *", but it won't work, it gives "/bin/rm: Argument > > list too long". So how can I delete these many files ? > > > > I can "cd ..", and then "rm -rf ", and that works. > > > > However, what if I didn't wish to remove directories. In that > > case, what would I do to remove the files ? > > First, ignore the overly complicated and potentially dangerous answers > so far on this thread. :) Second, think about it for a minute. If "*" > provides a list that's too long for rm to handle, why not break it up > into smaller chunks? For example, if your files mainly have alpha > characters in their names, do something like: > > rm [a-c]* > > Starting with larger chunks, and going smaller as needed till the error > messages disappear. > > Doug > -- > "Live free or die" > - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire > > Do YOU Yahoo!? > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 17:12:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E13437BB14 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 17:12:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sprice@hiwaay.net) Received: from localhost (sprice@localhost) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e480CUN09320; Sun, 7 May 2000 19:12:30 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 19:12:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Price To: Doug Barton Cc: Darren Wyn Rees , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "rm -rf *" - "argument list too long" In-Reply-To: <39160161.4BCFEFE3@gorean.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 7 May 2000, Doug Barton wrote: # First, ignore the overly complicated and potentially dangerous answers # so far on this thread. :) Second, think about it for a minute. If "*" # provides a list that's too long for rm to handle, why not break it up # into smaller chunks? For example, if your files mainly have alpha # characters in their names, do something like: # # rm [a-c]* # # Starting with larger chunks, and going smaller as needed till the error # messages disappear. Something like this doesn't work? ls * | xargs rm Seems simple enough and should do it all in one pass. :) -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 17:18:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from home.offwhite.net (home.offwhite.net [156.46.35.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CAAC37B925 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 17:18:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brennan@offwhite.net) Received: from localhost (brennan@localhost) by home.offwhite.net (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA77063 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 19:18:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 19:18:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Brennan W Stehling To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ipnat and udp Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can anyone tell me how I can get upd traffic to come back into my network while I have an open firewall and ipnat doing address translation? Here are my current ipnat rules. map xl1 192.168.1.0/16 -> 0.0.0.0/32 portmap tcp/udp 40000:65000 map xl1 192.168.1.0/16 -> 0.0.0.0/32 In rc.firewall, for open, the only rule added to my open firewall is... $fwcmd add 65000 pass all from any to any I have the kernel compiled with an open firewall. What I am going to try is to add this rule. $fwcmd add 66000 pass udp from any to 192.168.1.2 That IP is my iMac which I would like to have set up to that I can have udp traffic for quicktime streaming and AIM talk features. Is this all I need to do? Is there a better way to do it? Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com Microsoft: Will you get a macro virus today? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 17:28:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from quartz.nbnet.nb.ca (mailserv.nbnet.nb.ca [198.164.200.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89FB237BB6D for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 17:28:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marco@nbnet.nb.ca) Received: from Lxxxx.nbtel.nb.ca ([142.166.201.247]) by quartz.nbnet.nb.ca (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-66826U105000L105000S0V35) with ESMTP id ca for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 21:28:19 -0300 From: "Marco Shaw" To: Subject: Re: ed0/ThinkPad/mknod question Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 19:47:30 -0300 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20000508002819.AAA5512@quartz.nbnet.nb.ca@Lxxxx.nbtel.nb.ca> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My apologies to all. I never knew there was a difference between cardbus and pccard. I, in fact, have a cardbus, and as mentioned below, it is not supported. Marco ---------- > From: Greg Lehey > To: Marco Shaw ; f.johan.beisser > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: ed0/ThinkPad/mknod question > Date: May 7, 2000 7:27 PM > > On Sunday, 7 May 2000 at 11:52:48 -0300, Marco Shaw wrote: > > If someone could be so kind to give me an 'ls -al' on /dev/ed0... > > > > I've been banging my head against the wall for a couple of days. I > > can't get the networking to work on my ThinkPad 390x. > > It sounds like you're talking about the Ethernet card, but you haven't > said which one. > > > My biggest block right now it to get the ed0 device driver to create > > itself. > > There are no device entries for Ethernet cards. > > > I've cleaned up the devices at boot time (boot -c-->visual) to make > > sure ed0 was there without conflicts, but it still doesn't show up > > in dmesg. > > > > Now I'm going to try to create the device manually with mknod to see > > if that gets me any further. > > That's impossible. First you need a major device number, but there > isn't one. > > > pccardd just complains about 'no card in database for ""("")', but > > I've copied over pccard.conf.sample to pccard.conf, unless there's > > something else... > > This typically means that it's misreading the CIS information from a > CardBus card. We don't support CardBus yet. > > On Sunday, 7 May 2000 at 10:43:27 -0700, f.johan.beisser wrote: > > you shouldn't have to create the device, and if you do, it should't > > be much more than "cd /dev/ ; ./MAKEDEV ep0" to create it. > > Please check this sort of statement before posting it. There is no > such device, so MAKEDEV will not work. > > Greg > -- > When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. > For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > See complete headers for address and phone numbers > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 17:37:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtprelay2.adelphia.net (smtprelay2.adelphia.net [64.8.25.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACCFC37BB6D for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 17:37:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Gandalf@adelphia.net) Received: from greyhavens ([24.48.99.17]) by smtprelay2.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id FU7TSM00.9GC for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 20:38:46 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.32.20000507203600.007fa530@pop.buf.adelphia.net> X-Sender: gandalf@pop.buf.adelphia.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 20:36:01 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: David Aquilina Subject: SB Live! Soundcards Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, does FreeBSD support the SoundBlaster Live! card? If not, when is such support likely to appear? Thanks in Advance To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 17:49:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oracle.clara.net (oracle.clara.net [195.8.69.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE7A37C146 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 17:49:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from merlin@A470.com) Received: from [212.126.131.167] (helo=A470.com) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 12objG-0003su-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 8 May 2000 01:48:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 6793 invoked by uid 1000); 8 May 2000 00:51:23 -0000 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 00:51:23 +0000 From: Darren Wyn Rees To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "rm -rf *" - "argument list too long" Message-ID: <20000508005123.F559@netlink.co.uk> References: <20000507201410.M540@netlink.co.uk> <39160161.4BCFEFE3@gorean.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <39160161.4BCFEFE3@gorean.org> Organization: A470 X-No-Archive: yes X-PGP-812C54B1: F8 79 5E 84 F0 20 A5 62 FA 2D E9 BD BE 06 7D 10 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 04:50:57PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > First, ignore the overly complicated and potentially dangerous answers > so far on this thread. :) Second, think about it for a minute. If "*" > provides a list that's too long for rm to handle, why not break it up > into smaller chunks? Good suggestion... And it's what I did (though I didn't mention it). However, what I found was that it was still taking lots of time to "break it up"... eg. I'd try rm *54* and it wouldn't work, so I'd try rm *53* and it wouldn't work... but then, rm *52* would. I didn't try using a [range], so your suggestion was helpful. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 18: 5:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A2137B703 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 18:05:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id KAA63241; Mon, 8 May 2000 10:35:15 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 10:35:15 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Salvo Bartolotta Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WordPerfect far from being perfect ... Message-ID: <20000508103515.I61921@freebie.lemis.com> References: <20000508.205200@bartequi.ottodomain.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <20000508.205200@bartequi.ottodomain.org> Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 8 May 2000 at 0:20:52 +0000, Salvo Bartolotta wrote: > Dear FreeBSD'ers, > > I have just installed Wordperfect 8 via the port under a 3.4-STABLE > (as of 25 April) system of mine. > > It is no joy. When I load it for the first time, it takes *minutes* > just to show a "save file" window or an "open file" window on my PIII > 450 Mhz 384MB RAM. Then it behaves normally. Resources should BY NO > MEANS be an issue. I can't seem to find information about this problem > in the archives. > > Is anyone else experiencing this ? Is WP8 simply hopeless for the time > being ? Am I missing anything ? Could this be a DNS problem? Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 18:21:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from watson.ficsgrp.com (watson.ficsgrp.com [194.74.111.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF2037B52E for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 18:21:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from harry.woodward-clarke@s1.com) Received: from mail.au.ficsgrp.com ([194.74.111.35]) by watson.ficsgrp.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA5C72 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 03:21:24 +0200 Received: from S1.com ([172.16.48.219]) by mail.au.ficsgrp.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id 1472 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 11:25:27 +1000 Message-ID: <391616C2.446DE3EE@S1.com> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 01:22:11 +0000 From: Harry Woodward-Clarke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: libXpm.so.4.10 question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings, yes, I have searched the mail archive, and yes there were many hits on this, but none actually provided me with the actual pointer (that I could see) to this. First, some info: [start of information] bash-2.03$ uname -a FreeBSD FreeBSD.syd.s1.com 3.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE #0: Tue Mar 7 10:15:23 EST 2000 root@FreeBSD.syd.s1.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/S1 i386 bash-2.03$ extract from $ pkg_info -a Information for xpm-3.4k: Comment: The X Pixmap library Required by: gnomelibs-1.0.14 gnomeaudio-1.0.0 gnomeprint-0.4 libgtop-1.1.0 gnomecore-1.0.9 gnomemc-4.5.37 xlockmore-4.14 lyx-1.0.3 transfig-3.2.1 apsfilter-5.1.3 xpdf-0.80 gimp-1.1.5 windowmaker-0.60.0 libwmfun-0.0.1 wmakerconf-2.2 kdebase-1.1.1 kde-1.1.1 afterstep-1.0 xfce-3.0.3 vtwm-5.4.5a wterm-6.2.6 aterm-0.3.6 Description: Here is an extract from the README file: * Copyright (C) 1989-94 GROUPE BULL XPM Version 3 bash-2.03$ locate libXpm |xargs ls -l -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 76832 Sep 11 1999 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.a lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 11 Feb 29 22:35 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so -> libXpm.so.4 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 57398 Sep 11 1999 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 14 Feb 29 22:26 /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 -> libXpm.so.4.10 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 57537 Aug 13 1998 /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4.10 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13 Feb 29 22:26 /usr/compat/linux/usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libXpm.so.4 -> libXpm.so.4.9 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 62832 Sep 10 1998 /usr/compat/linux/usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libXpm.so.4.9 bash-2.03$ The xpm package on the cd is xpm-3.4k.tgz, bash-2.03$ ls -l xpm-3.4k.tgz -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 76370 Sep 12 1999 xpm-3.4k.tgz bash-2.03$ tar -ztvf xpm-3.4k.tgz -rw-r--r-- root/wheel 700 Sep 11 16:53 1999 +CONTENTS -rw-r--r-- root/wheel 21 Sep 11 16:53 1999 +COMMENT -rw-r--r-- root/wheel 673 Sep 11 16:53 1999 +DESC -r--r--r-- root/wheel 5062 Sep 8 19:25 1999 +MTREE_DIRS -r--r--r-- root/wheel 1309 Sep 11 16:52 1999 man/man1/cxpm.1.gz -r--r--r-- root/wheel 1862 Sep 11 16:52 1999 man/man1/sxpm.1.gz -rwxr-xr-x root/wheel 14848 Sep 11 16:52 1999 bin/cxpm -rwxr-xr-x root/wheel 11936 Sep 11 16:52 1999 bin/sxpm -r--r--r-- root/wheel 16644 Sep 11 16:52 1999 include/X11/xpm.h -rw-r--r-- root/wheel 76832 Sep 11 16:52 1999 lib/libXpm.a lrwxr-xr-x root/wheel 0 Sep 11 16:52 1999 lib/libXpm.so -> libXpm.so.4 -rwxr-xr-x root/wheel 57398 Sep 11 16:52 1999 lib/libXpm.so.4 bash-2.03$ And finally (the error itself)... bash-2.03$ netrek ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libXpm.so.4.10" bash-2.03$ [end of information] So, as you can see, it's for a "critical" application ;') "Would you believe...?" Ok, it's a game. I've checked via /stand/sysinstall that xpm is installed, and it is. I've searched the mail archives, as stated above, and while there were a number of 'hits', these all failed to actually solve the question of just where to get hold of libXpm.so.4.10 I found an 'rpm' that may have the module in it, but I'm not sure (a) if it has the source code, and (b) if it's any different from the libXpm.so.4.10 in the /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/ directory. (The 'may' is because I appear not to have the rpm set up correctly, so I can't get a listing of the files inside it. Is the rpm format some "standard" file format (e.g. tar/gzip, compress, or zip)? Anyway, I installed the Netrek package from the cd (netrek-COW-3.00p0.tgz), so perhaps I should harass the maintainer ;') Any help appreciated, thanks. H To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 18:33:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from watson.ficsgrp.com (watson.ficsgrp.com [194.74.111.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2391337B848 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 18:33:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from harry.woodward-clarke@s1.com) Received: from mail.au.ficsgrp.com ([194.74.111.35]) by watson.ficsgrp.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA5DF0 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 03:33:09 +0200 Received: from S1.com ([172.16.48.219]) by mail.au.ficsgrp.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id 309 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 11:37:12 +1000 Message-ID: <39161984.DAC5F078@S1.com> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 01:33:56 +0000 From: Harry Woodward-Clarke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: question on Dell Latitude laptops Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ya, I've just been informed that as of next month I will be getting a laptop: "Dell Latitude CPx, 450MHx PIII, 128Mb RAM, 6.4GB HDD, 13.3 screen, FDD, CD-ROM, 10/100 Dell/3Com PC-card NIC, V90 PC-Card modem." So, has anyone had success on installing FreeBSD 3.3 on such a beast? Any hints, tips, tricks, gotcha's I need to be aware of? I have 3.3 running on my current desktop (also a Dell - see the pattern here at work? ;') And it is very very nice ;') I'll be trawling through the PAO pages r.s.n. just to see what I need to make allowances for there. But if anyone has some information that might save (a) some grief, and (b) some 'face' here in a predominantly WinNT shop ;') I'd appreciate it. Thanks and kind regards, Harry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 18:42:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gerbang.untan.ac.id (gerbang.untan.ac.id [167.205.153.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C5A437B832 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 18:41:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin@untan.ac.id) Received: (qmail 4186 invoked by uid 1030); 8 May 2000 00:34:49 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 May 2000 00:34:49 -0000 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 08:34:49 +0800 (BORT) From: Administrator To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: internal modem onboard... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi... i have internal modem onboard at my PC.. and my favorite OS is FreeBSD 4.0 Release... i know that FreeBSD40R can detect onboard hardware like ethernet card onboard... dc0 (davicom) my questions is how to find know my internal modem can detected by freeBSD4.0R... and how to dialup or dialin use internal modem onboard (card)... use /dev/cuaa0 or ...??? -regards- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 18:45:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sullivan.realtime.net (sullivan.realtime.net [205.238.128.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0C237BB4E for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 18:45:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brucegb@sullivan.realtime.net) Received: (from brucegb@localhost) by sullivan.realtime.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA06245 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 May 2000 20:45:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brucegb) From: Bruce Burden Message-Id: <200005080145.UAA06245@sullivan.realtime.net> Subject: Re: Novice needs help In-Reply-To: from Paul E Travis at "May 7, 2000 01:02:08 pm" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 20:45:24 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Using Partition Magic, I created a second 1.5G primary partition (FAT) in > front of the FAT32. I'd like to use the 1.5G for the BSD OS. > So, if I understand what you are saying correctly, you have a 1.5GB FAT partition and then a 7.5GB FAT 32 partition, right? (Plus a MBR space, etc). > > My problem comes after I boot into the FAT partition w/ the kern/mfsroot > disks during the configuration process (before actually installing the dist > files from the CDROM). > If I understad what you are saying, you need to delete the FAT partition. Assign that partition to freebsd when you get to the FDISK Partition Editor menu when you boot. > > as Freebsd in the fdisk menu, I am unable create the file systems (root, > user, and swap space)in the disk label menu. > That doesn't make sense. :-) I think that is because you are trying to install FreeBSD into a FAT partiton, and it doesn't like that. Also, make sure you make the FreeBSD partition bootable, probably with the FDISK Partiion Editor menu. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 18:47:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web2101.mail.yahoo.com (web2101.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8DBEA37B925 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 18:47:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from allenklu@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 3684 invoked by uid 60001); 8 May 2000 01:47:07 -0000 Message-ID: <20000508014707.3683.qmail@web2101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.102.221.227] by web2101.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 07 May 2000 18:47:07 PDT Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 18:47:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Allen Lu Subject: Re: ipfirewall (ipfw) To: cjclark@home.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- "Crist J. Clark" wrote: > [Can you turn off the forced line-wrapping in your mailer? It makes > things very hard to read.] I've set it to 80. Was 75 and 55 before.Yahoo mail does not have no wrapping looks like. > On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 09:40:28AM -0700, Allen Lu wrote: > > Hi I made the modifications as suggested however I > > still do not get 216.218.224.107 forwarded to > > 192.168.1.10. It goes directly to the firewall. Here > > is my current config: I too agree that this is getting strange because the suggestion by Oliver to use the redirect_port did not work either. It seems that my config is totally ignored. I've been recompiling the kernel. Do you suggest I go to a fresh copy again? > > > options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD #enable > > > transparent proxy support > > This is not needed. Will it hurt to keep it in? > > > Also, change your rc.conf alias line to.. > > > > > > ifconfig_rl0_alias0="inet 216.218.224.107 netmask > > > 255.255.255.255 > > > broadcast 216.218.224" > > This is correct. What I had before ifconfig rl0 alias 216.218.224.107 netmask 255.255.255.248 was fine too. > > > The netmask needs to be 255.255.255.255 or you will > > > not be able to route > > > packets between IPs as the machine is looking for > > > something that is > > > physically on the net and not just an alias. Packet > > > forwarding needs to > > > be on to allow static routing. > > I do not understand why this would not be working for you. Have you > made any customizations to rc.firewall? When your system is up and > running could you provide the output of, I thought the rc.firewall may have had wrong entries. I modified the entries to match my NICs at rl0 and rl1. Didn't modify anything else. For now I am only using the open policy. > # ifconfig -a rogue# ifconfig -a | more rl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 216.218.224.106 netmask 0xfffffff8 broadcast 216.218.224.112 inet6 fe80::2e0:29ff:fe5f:5211%rl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 216.218.224.107 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 216.218.224.112 ether 00:e0:29:5f:52:11 media: autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UT P 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX rl1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 inet6 fe80::2e0:29ff:fe72:3060%rl1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 ether 00:e0:29:72:30:60 media: autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UT P 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 gif0: flags=8010 mtu 1280 inet6 fe80::2e0:29ff:fe5f:5211%gif0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x7 gif1: flags=8010 mtu 1280 inet6 fe80::2e0:29ff:fe5f:5211%gif1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x8 gif2: flags=8010 mtu 1280 inet6 fe80::2e0:29ff:fe5f:5211%gif2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x9 gif3: flags=8010 mtu 1280 inet6 fe80::2e0:29ff:fe5f:5211%gif3 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xa stf0: flags=8000 mtu 1280 inet6 fe80::2e0:29ff:fe5f:5211%stf0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xb faith0: flags=8000 mtu 1500 > # netstat -rn rogue# netstat -rn Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire default 216.218.224.105 UGSc rl0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH lo0 192.168.1 link#2 UC rl1 => 216.218.224.104/29 link#1 UC rl0 => 216.218.224.105 0:90:86:ab:d1:20 UHLW rl0 363 216.218.224.107/32 link#1 UC rl0 => Internet6: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire ::1 ::1 UH lo0 fe80::%rl0/64 link#1 UC rl0 fe80::%rl1/64 link#2 UC rl1 fe80::%lo0/64 fe80::1%lo0 Uc lo0 fe80::%gif0/64 fe80::2e0:29ff:fe5f:5211%gif0 Uc gif0 fe80::2e0:29ff:fe5f:5211%gif0 ::1 UH lo0 fe80::%gif1/64 fe80::2e0:29ff:fe5f:5211%gif1 Uc gif1 fe80::2e0:29ff:fe5f:5211%gif1 ::1 UH lo0 fe80::%gif2/64 fe80::2e0:29ff:fe5f:5211%gif2 Uc gif2 fe80::2e0:29ff:fe5f:5211%gif2 ::1 UH lo0 fe80::%gif3/64 fe80::2e0:29ff:fe5f:5211%gif3 Uc gif3 fe80::2e0:29ff:fe5f:5211%gif3 ::1 UH lo0 fe80::%stf0/64 fe80::2e0:29ff:fe5f:5211%stf0 Uc stf0 fe80::2e0:29ff:fe5f:5211%stf0 ::1 UH lo0 ff01::/32 ::1 U lo0 ff02::%rl0/32 link#1 UC rl0 ff02::%rl1/32 link#2 UC rl1 ff02::%lo0/32 fe80::1%lo0 UC lo0 ff02::%gif0/32 fe80::2e0:29ff:fe5f:5211%gif0 UC gif0 ff02::%gif1/32 fe80::2e0:29ff:fe5f:5211%gif1 UC gif1 ff02::%gif2/32 fe80::2e0:29ff:fe5f:5211%gif2 UC gif2 ff02::%gif3/32 fe80::2e0:29ff:fe5f:5211%gif3 UC gif3 ff02::%stf0/32 fe80::2e0:29ff:fe5f:5211%stf0 UC stf0 > # ipfw show rogue# /sbin/ipfw show 00100 0 0 allow ip from any to any via lo0 00200 0 0 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 65000 3281 345053 allow ip from any to any 65535 0 0 deny ip from any to any > # ps aux | grep natd natd is not running. how is this so? Doesn't natd run by the rc.conf line natd_enable="YES"? But for now this is my config. Allen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 18:59: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4F337BB3F for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 18:59:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12ob8u-000M1h-00; Mon, 08 May 2000 01:11:25 +0100 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.12 #7) id 12ob8u-0006Rl-00; Mon, 08 May 2000 01:11:24 +0100 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 01:11:24 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Doug Barton Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "rm -rf *" - "argument list too long" Message-ID: <20000508011124.D79359@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <20000507201410.M540@netlink.co.uk> <39160161.4BCFEFE3@gorean.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <39160161.4BCFEFE3@gorean.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug Barton wrote: > First, ignore the overly complicated and potentially dangerous answers > so far on this thread. :) Well, if you bothered to say which ones people might have a chance of knowing which to avoid. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@scientia.demon.co.uk / PGP: 0x99392F7D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 19: 0:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from picusnet.com (mail.picusnet.com [207.7.90.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF83E37B925 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 19:00:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wdf@picusnet.com) Received: from picusnet.com [38.38.129.161] by picusnet.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id AFB055700F6; Sun, 07 May 2000 22:00:16 -0400 Message-ID: <39161FB5.97881A3@picusnet.com> Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 22:00:21 -0400 From: William Freeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Administrator Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: internal modem onboard... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Administrator wrote: > > Hi... > i have internal modem onboard at my PC.. > and my favorite OS is FreeBSD 4.0 Release... > i know that FreeBSD40R can detect onboard hardware like ethernet card > onboard... dc0 (davicom) > my questions is how to find know my internal modem can detected by > freeBSD4.0R... > and how to dialup or dialin use internal modem onboard (card)... > use /dev/cuaa0 or ...??? > i suppose that it all depends on what type of modem. winmodem will not work. anything else should...i love my Viking 56k v.90 external modem, but then, i'm werid like that...makes a cool sound though. -- William D. Freeman (wfreeman@picusnet.com) http://memebers.xoom.com/EvilGNU -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GG d- s+:+ a--- C++ UB+++ P+ L- E--- W++ N-- o-- K- w--- O---- M-- V-- PS--- PE+++ Y- PGP---- t+++ 5-- X+++ R* tv++ b+ DI++++ D---- G- e-- h! r++ !y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 19:10:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCCD437B891 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 19:10:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA61796; Sun, 7 May 2000 19:10:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <3916221B.865C810B@gorean.org> Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 19:10:35 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0422 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Price Cc: Darren Wyn Rees , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "rm -rf *" - "argument list too long" References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Steve Price wrote: > > On Sun, 7 May 2000, Doug Barton wrote: > > # First, ignore the overly complicated and potentially dangerous answers > # so far on this thread. :) Second, think about it for a minute. If "*" > # provides a list that's too long for rm to handle, why not break it up > # into smaller chunks? For example, if your files mainly have alpha > # characters in their names, do something like: > # > # rm [a-c]* > # > # Starting with larger chunks, and going smaller as needed till the error > # messages disappear. > > Something like this doesn't work? > > ls * | xargs rm > > Seems simple enough and should do it all in one pass. :) Most of the proposed solutions would work, but the ones like this suffer from having to spawn a new process for each file. Depending on how many files are in the directory, this could take a very long time (where "long time" is relative of course). A little shell manipulation goes a long way here. Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 19:22: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web125.yahoomail.com (web125.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D80C37B925 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 19:21:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fmirand@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 21790 invoked by uid 60001); 8 May 2000 02:21:34 -0000 Message-ID: <20000508022134.21789.qmail@web125.yahoomail.com> Received: from [200.30.54.81] by web125.yahoomail.com; Sun, 07 May 2000 19:21:34 PDT Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 19:21:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Fabio Miranda Subject: Request of help! To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Cc: FreeBSD-net@freebsd.org, FreeBSD@es.FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-isp@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, i've been trying to set up my network and it has been imposible. I have sent many emails and noone has pointed me in the right way. Please, can anyone help me? Problem: I'm connecting a network to a leased line from my local company. I have a sever that uses a isa card(et5025-16 etinc.com) to connect to a dce (dsu/csu) and from it to the isp. The isp router is 209.88.252.105 and my IP is 209.88.252.106(the point to point link), and we belongs to 209.88.252.114 subnet. Also, the ISP gave me a subnet: 209.88.252.104/29 and i want the same server to have 209.88.252.113 and 209.88.252.114 to 118 are my local machines. the diagrama: ISProuter (209.88.252.105) - - - - eth0(209.88.252.106) FreeBSD fxp0(209.88.252.113)----->209.88.252.114to118 machines. I want the freebsd machine to route from 209.88.252.106 interface to 209.88.252.114 and viceversa, a multihomed server. Friends, i have really tried many things and the answered of my pasts email are kinda confused. Can anyone tell me something clear? i want to belongs to FreeBSD comunity! but, docs and all are hard. this is what i have done: ifconfig eth0 209.88.252.106 209.88.252.106 netmask 255.255.255.248 ifconfig fxp0 209.88.252.113 netmask 255.255.255.248 route add -net 209.88.252.104/29 209.88.252.105 -interface 209.88.252.106 route add -net 209.88.252.112/29 209.88.252.113 -interface 209.88.252.113 route add -net 0.0.0.0 209.88.252.113 1. What else do i need to make freebsd a router between the subnet .104 and .112 and make it use the .113? (pls, write the commands) 2. Do i need another software? like gated or routed or natd? 3. if i dont need any software, what makes "route" a packages from any of my local machines to the internet passing by the gatedway (the server)?. Thanks alot for any type of help. p.s. servers it's a l440gx intel using 3.4-release, others machines are win98 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 19:22:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 921C237BBF8 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 19:22:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id LAA64640; Mon, 8 May 2000 11:52:27 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 11:52:27 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Harry Woodward-Clarke Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: question on Dell Latitude laptops Message-ID: <20000508115227.O61921@freebie.lemis.com> References: <39161984.DAC5F078@S1.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <39161984.DAC5F078@S1.com> Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 8 May 2000 at 1:33:56 +0000, Harry Woodward-Clarke wrote: > Hi ya, > > I've just been informed that as of next month I will be getting a > laptop: "Dell Latitude CPx, 450MHx PIII, 128Mb RAM, 6.4GB HDD, 13.3 > screen, FDD, CD-ROM, 10/100 Dell/3Com PC-card NIC, V90 PC-Card modem." > > So, has anyone had success on installing FreeBSD 3.3 on such a > beast? I've done it on a CPi with no problems. But I'd recommend a newer release of FreeBSD now. > Any hints, tips, tricks, gotcha's I need to be aware of? Not really. On the CPi you need the following in your kernel config to get sound to work: device pcm0 at isa? port ? irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x0 The video card on the CPi is a NeoMagic, which is now supported by XFree86. IIRC there was nothing special needed to install it. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 19:32:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from buffy.tpgi.com.au (buffy.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715A237B71D for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 19:32:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcd@tpg.com.au) Received: (from smtpd@localhost) by buffy.tpgi.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA32619 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 12:31:44 +1000 Message-Id: <200005080231.MAA32619@buffy.tpgi.com.au> Received: from vweb5.tpgi.com.au(203.26.24.210), claiming to be "203.29.136.203" via SMTP by buffy.tpgi.com.au, id smtpdcp0Y2e; Mon May 8 12:31:36 2000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: marcd@tpg.com.au Subject: ppp configuration woes Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 02:29:55 GMT X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan Standard Edition v3.0.20 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I'm hoping some-one can help me with a little problem I'm having configuring PPP. It's for a system the will be acting as a gateway for a network. I can get the system to dial but am missing something as I can't ping the net. The system has a permanent IP but the other end is dynamic IP. The command I'm using to run is "ppp -ddial -nat ISP". Routed is turned on in /etc/rc.conf. my ppp.conf is default: # # Make sure that "device" references the correct serial port # for your modem. (cuaa0 = COM1, cuaa1 = COM2) # set device /dev/cuaa1 set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command set speed 115200 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" set timeout 120 disable pred1 deny pred1 disable lqr deny lqr enable dns ISP: # # edit the next three lines and replace the items in caps with # the values which have been assigned by your ISP. # set phone XXXXXXXXXX set authname XXXXXX set authkey XXXXX set timeout 120 set openmode active accept chap set ifaddr 203.15.x.x 127.2.2.2/0 add default HISADDR The error messages I receive gnerally say cannot add defualt as it's already in use. I've gotne through both the handbook and The Complete. TIA Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 19:35:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9182E37BBF8 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 19:35:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA24209; Sun, 7 May 2000 22:35:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 22:35:10 -0400 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Allen Lu Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfirewall (ipfw) Message-ID: <20000507223510.F23187@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Reply-To: cjclark@home.com References: <20000508014707.3683.qmail@web2101.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000508014707.3683.qmail@web2101.mail.yahoo.com>; from allenklu@yahoo.com on Sun, May 07, 2000 at 06:47:07PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 06:47:07PM -0700, Allen Lu wrote: > --- "Crist J. Clark" wrote: > > [Can you turn off the forced line-wrapping in your mailer? It makes > > things very hard to read.] > > I've set it to 80. Was 75 and 55 before.Yahoo mail does not have no wrapping > looks like. > > > On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 09:40:28AM -0700, Allen Lu wrote: > > > Hi I made the modifications as suggested however I > > > still do not get 216.218.224.107 forwarded to > > > 192.168.1.10. It goes directly to the firewall. Here > > > is my current config: > > I too agree that this is getting strange because the suggestion by Oliver to > use the redirect_port did not work either. It seems that my config is totally > ignored. I've been recompiling the kernel. Do you suggest I go to a fresh copy > again? > > > > > options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD #enable > > > > transparent proxy support > > > > This is not needed. > > Will it hurt to keep it in? No. > > > > Also, change your rc.conf alias line to.. > > > > > > > > ifconfig_rl0_alias0="inet 216.218.224.107 netmask > > > > 255.255.255.255 > > > > broadcast 216.218.224" > > > > This is correct. > > What I had before ifconfig rl0 alias 216.218.224.107 netmask 255.255.255.248 > was fine too. It's not actually correct and could cause subtle problems. > > > > The netmask needs to be 255.255.255.255 or you will > > > > not be able to route > > > > packets between IPs as the machine is looking for > > > > something that is > > > > physically on the net and not just an alias. Packet > > > > forwarding needs to > > > > be on to allow static routing. > > > > I do not understand why this would not be working for you. Have you > > made any customizations to rc.firewall? When your system is up and > > running could you provide the output of, > > I thought the rc.firewall may have had wrong entries. I modified the entries to > match my NICs at rl0 and rl1. Didn't modify anything else. For now I am only > using the open policy. Might be OK. As we see below, the problem occurs before then. [snip expected, proper information] > > # ipfw show > > rogue# /sbin/ipfw show > 00100 0 0 allow ip from any to any via lo0 > 00200 0 0 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 > 65000 3281 345053 allow ip from any to any > 65535 0 0 deny ip from any to any > > > # ps aux | grep natd > > natd is not running. how is this so? Doesn't natd run by the rc.conf line > natd_enable="YES"? > > But for now this is my config. Something is not working. natd(8) is not running and you do not have the divert(4) rule for natd in your ipfw(8) rules. At least we know where the problem is now. And I think I spotted it. You are going to groan. It looks like you have, natd_enabled="YES" In /etc/rc.conf rather than, natd_enable="YES" D'oh! ;) -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 19:40:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.one.net (mail4.one.net [206.112.192.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C0437BF0F for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 19:40:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from activex1@one.net) Received: from ztown2-1-216.adsl.one.net ([207.78.253.216] EHLO activex-dev.com ident: IDENT-NOT-QUERIED [port 247]) by mail2.one.net with ESMTP id <76241-28800>; Sun, 7 May 2000 22:40:35 -0400 Message-ID: <3915D4A4.271F3CD1@activex-dev.com> From: Sam Carleton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13-SMP i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SuSE , FreeBSD-Questions Subject: NFS mount is locking up. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 22:40:28 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a fresh install of SuSE 6.3 and FreeBSD 4.0. The SuSE machine is the NFS server and FreeBSD the client. I am able to mount a directory on the FreeBSD box and list directories on the mount. As soon as I try to copy over a file, the NFS connections locks on me. What do I have setup incorrectly? More info: With previous installs of SuSE 6.2 I tried setting one Linux up as an NFS server and another as client. I ran into the EXACT same problem. I have a feeling that I do NOT have something configured correctly on the SuSE end of things. This is the status of my SuSE rc.config file: START_PORTMAP="yes" NFS_SERVER="yes" USE_KERNEL_NFSD="yes" USE_KERNEL_NFSD_NUMBER="4" NFS_SERVER_UGID="no" REEXPORT_NFS="no" Do I need to compile the Linux kernel in some special way? I am using the default SMP kernel. Is there some daemon I need to have running? In the O'Reilly book it talks about biod on the client and the rpc.lockd and rpc.statd daemon's on the server. What daemons do I need running on the SuSE NFS server and FreeBSD client? (As soon as I have this working with the FreeBSD client, there will be a SuSE client, too). Any points folks have is very much appreciated!!!!! Sam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 19:45:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from horst.bfd.com (horst.bfd.com [12.9.219.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A7A37BBF8 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 19:45:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ejs@bfd.com) Received: from HARLIE.bfd.com (bastion.bfd.com [12.9.219.14]) by horst.bfd.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e482jFt47356; Sun, 7 May 2000 19:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 19:45:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" To: Doug Barton Cc: Steve Price , Darren Wyn Rees , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "rm -rf *" - "argument list too long" In-Reply-To: <3916221B.865C810B@gorean.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 7 May 2000, Doug Barton wrote: > Steve Price wrote: > > > > Something like this doesn't work? > > > > ls * | xargs rm > > > > Seems simple enough and should do it all in one pass. :) > > Most of the proposed solutions would work, but the ones like this > suffer from having to spawn a new process for each file. Depending on > how many files are in the directory, this could take a very long time > (where "long time" is relative of course). A little shell manipulation > goes a long way here. Actually, this one won't create one process per file. xargs by default packs multiple arguments to each call of the executed program, . FreeBSD's xargs defaults to 5000 args or 63488 characters, whichever comes first, which is to say it's coming reasonably close to the best case, so you're not going to beat it by much unless you avoid shell globbing all together. My normal solution to this (yes, I hit it a lot at work) is either xargs or move the directory to a different name, create a new directory with the original name, mv the directories in the old directory into the new one, then rm -rf the old directory. Depends on the mood and the OS, we've got an old crufty SysV unix at work with a flakey xargs command. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 20:25:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.atl.bellsouth.net (mail1.atl.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A85737BCB5 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 20:25:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from migm@bellsouth.net) Received: from bellsouth.net (adsl-61-154-101.atl.bellsouth.net [208.61.154.101]) by mail1.atl.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id XAA18139 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 23:17:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3916DCE6.D1CFA615@bellsouth.net> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 11:27:34 -0400 From: migm@bellsouth.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-bls40 (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Efficient 3060 drivers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello from Atlanta. I just got ADSL from bellsouth down here and I was interested in using my FreeBSD box as a gateway. The deal is that the ADSL modem that they gave me is an Efficient Networks, Inc. "SpeadStream 3060". Is there anyone developing drivers for FreeBSD to support this modem? Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 20:33:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wcug.wwu.edu (sloth.wcug.wwu.edu [140.160.164.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 840A937B932 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 20:33:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjohnson@wcug.wwu.edu) Received: (qmail 31815 invoked by uid 1089); 8 May 2000 03:33:16 -0000 Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 20:33:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Johnson X-Sender: cjohnson@sloth Reply-To: Christopher Johnson To: David Aquilina Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SB Live! Soundcards In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20000507203600.007fa530@pop.buf.adelphia.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 7 May 2000, David Aquilina wrote: > Hello, does FreeBSD support the SoundBlaster Live! card? If not, when is > such support likely to appear? Thanks in Advance > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message There is different levels of support for the SBLive! card under FreeBSD. This is what I understand from the -questions mailing list: Under 3.x: No support from the FreeBSD project itself. In order to use your SBLive! card, you must purchase drivers from http://www.opensound.com/ (This is what I'm doing) The Opensound drivers work well with almost everything (mtv, an mpeg player from MpegTV being one notable exception). Under 4.x: There is some experimental support from FreeBSD-native sources, see http://wcug.wwu.edu/~cjohnson/sblive4.txt for a howto I nabbed from the -questions list (I didn't write this, and haven't tried it yet). Under 5.x: See: http:///www.defcon1.org//html/Hardware_Articles/PnP_Sound/PnP_Modem/SB-Live/body_sb-live.html for more info on SBLive! support under 5.x-current. Chris Johnson cjohnson@wcug.wwu.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 20:43:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc2.bc.home.com (ha1.rdc2.bc.wave.home.com [24.2.10.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B12037BE55 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 20:43:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mackinnon.m@home.com) Received: from cr349997a ([24.115.89.146]) by mail.rdc2.bc.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.17 201-229-119) with SMTP id <20000508034305.CVCD20288.mail.rdc2.bc.home.com@cr349997a> for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 20:43:05 -0700 Message-ID: <010601bfb8a0$c8ee45c0$92597318@rct1.bc.wave.home.com> From: "Michael MacKinnon" To: Subject: Install Hell... Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 20:52:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0103_01BFB866.1C663AE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0103_01BFB866.1C663AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there,=20 I've been trying to install FreeBSD for about two weeks now, and I've been having absolutely no luck whatsoever. I'm trying to install version 3.1 from the Walnut Grove CDs. Everything appears to go just fine until it tries to set up=20 the files system (when it uses the newfs command). Then I get page faults, lockups, and reboots (oh my!). Any changes I try to make just seem to leave me with a different error=20 in the same place. I've even tried to install Linux and it fails on the filesystem,too. Any ideas? Details on my system: Celeron 466 Award BIOS 32MB RAM ATAPI CD-ROM / DVD player (Pioneer) 10 Gig Western Digital HD (also tried a Maxtor 4Gig and a Maxtor 400MB) Extra question: should I use LBA, Normal, or Large in the BIOS? Thanks for any help... Michael MacKinnon ------=_NextPart_000_0103_01BFB866.1C663AE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi there,
I've been trying to install FreeBSD for about = two=20 weeks
now, and I've been having absolutely no luck=20 whatsoever.
 
I'm trying to install version 3.1 from the = Walnut Grove=20 CDs.
 
Everything appears to go just fine until it = tries to set=20 up
the files system (when it uses the newfs=20 command).
Then I get page faults, lockups, and reboots (oh = my!).
Any changes I try to make just seem to = leave me=20 with a different error
in the same place.
I've even tried to install Linux and it fails on = the=20 filesystem,too.
 
Any ideas?
 
Details on my system:
 
Celeron 466
Award BIOS
32MB RAM
ATAPI CD-ROM / DVD player (Pioneer)
10 Gig Western Digital HD
(also tried a Maxtor 4Gig and a Maxtor = 400MB)
 
Extra question:
should I use LBA, Normal, or Large in the=20 BIOS?
 
 
Thanks for any help...
Michael MacKinnon
------=_NextPart_000_0103_01BFB866.1C663AE0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 20:52:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from home.offwhite.net (home.offwhite.net [156.46.35.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DC537B7A7 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 20:52:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brennan@offwhite.net) Received: from localhost (brennan@localhost) by home.offwhite.net (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA78030; Sun, 7 May 2000 22:52:08 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 22:52:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Brennan W Stehling To: Michael MacKinnon Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Install Hell... In-Reply-To: <010601bfb8a0$c8ee45c0$92597318@rct1.bc.wave.home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I would have to say it is a hardware failure. Try with a different hard drive. You tried it with two different systems, FreeBSD and Linux and it did not after many tries. You must be pretty sure it is not the software. Now you have to troubleshoot the hardware. Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com Microsoft: Will you get a macro virus today? On Sun, 7 May 2000, Michael MacKinnon wrote: > Hi there, > I've been trying to install FreeBSD for about two weeks > now, and I've been having absolutely no luck whatsoever. > > I'm trying to install version 3.1 from the Walnut Grove CDs. > > Everything appears to go just fine until it tries to set up > the files system (when it uses the newfs command). > Then I get page faults, lockups, and reboots (oh my!). > Any changes I try to make just seem to leave me with a different error > in the same place. > I've even tried to install Linux and it fails on the filesystem,too. > > Any ideas? > > Details on my system: > > Celeron 466 > Award BIOS > 32MB RAM > ATAPI CD-ROM / DVD player (Pioneer) > 10 Gig Western Digital HD > (also tried a Maxtor 4Gig and a Maxtor 400MB) > > Extra question: > should I use LBA, Normal, or Large in the BIOS? > > > Thanks for any help... > Michael MacKinnon > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 21: 1: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91FDF37BC52 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 21:01:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA24428 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 8 May 2000 00:00:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 00:00:56 -0400 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Lost sa0? Message-ID: <20000508000056.H23187@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Reply-To: cjclark@home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have been trying to get a tape jukebox to work. The jukebox has been a breeze to work with actually, but the tape drive is giving me headaches. Now it seems like it has completely stopped responding, # mt status mt: /dev/nrsa0: Device not configured However, # dmesg | grep sa0 sa0 at aha0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 5.000MB/s transfers (5.000MHz, offset 8) And, # camcontrol devlist at scbus0 target 5 lun 0 (pass0,sa0) at scbus0 target 6 lun 0 (pass1,ch0) I've tried rescanning the bus and reseting it to no avail. I will load the tape in the drive and try to use the status one more time. # chio status picker 0: slot 0: slot 1: slot 2: slot 3: slot 4: slot 5: slot 6: slot 7: slot 8: slot 9: drive 0: # chio move drive 0 drive 0 # chio status picker 0: slot 0: slot 1: slot 2: slot 3: slot 4: slot 5: slot 6: slot 7: slot 8: slot 9: drive 0: # mt status mt: /dev/nrsa0: Device not configured I had managed to use the drive, but then it started doing this, May 6 23:14:14 pc206 /kernel: (sa0:aha0:0:5:0): SPACE. CDB: 11 1 ff ff ff 0 May 6 23:14:14 pc206 /kernel: (sa0:aha0:0:5:0): MEDIUM ERROR info?:8000 asc:9,0 May 6 23:14:14 pc206 /kernel: (sa0:aha0:0:5:0): Track following error May 6 23:14:14 pc206 /kernel: (sa0:aha0:0:5:0): unable to backspace over one of double filemarks at end of tape May 6 23:14:14 pc206 /kernel: (sa0:aha0:0:5:0): it is possible that this device needs a SA_QUIRK_1FM quirk set for it May 6 23:14:14 pc206 /kernel: (sa0:aha0:0:5:0): tape is now frozen- use an OFFLINE, REWIND or MTEOM command to clear this state. May 6 23:14:14 pc206 /kernel: (sa0:aha0:0:5:0): tape is now frozen- use an OFFLINE, REWIND or MTEOM command to clear this state. May 6 23:16:12 pc206 /kernel: (sa0:aha0:0:5:0): tape is now frozen- use an OFFLINE, REWIND or MTEOM command to clear this state. And now it seems to be unusable. What pray tell is the SA_QUIRK_1FM (kernel config option I assume), and do I need to set it? -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 21:38: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.flashcom.net (63-248-48-89.usa3.flashcom.net [63.248.48.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A450B37BD11 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 21:37:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cgaff@mail.flashcom.net) Received: (from cgaff@localhost) by mail.flashcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA04007; Sun, 7 May 2000 23:34:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cgaff) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 23:34:55 -0500 From: "Corey G." To: Salvo Bartolotta Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WordPerfect far from being perfect ... Message-ID: <20000507233455.A3997@flashcom.net> References: <20000508.205200@bartequi.ottodomain.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000508.205200@bartequi.ottodomain.org>; from bartequi@neomedia.it on Mon, May 08, 2000 at 12:20:52AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have never had a problem with this port not running quickly on my machine. I have similar resources to yours. Try using "truss" to see what the process is waiting for. This is the only suggesting I can think of since I have not had a problem. Corey On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 12:20:52AM +0000, Salvo Bartolotta wrote: > Dear FreeBSD'ers, > > I have just installed Wordperfect 8 via the port under a 3.4-STABLE > (as of 25 April) system of mine. > > It is no joy. When I load it for the first time, it takes *minutes* > just to show a "save file" window or an "open file" window on my PIII > 450 Mhz 384MB RAM. Then it behaves normally. Resources should BY NO > MEANS be an issue. I can't seem to find information about this problem > in the archives. > > Is anyone else experiencing this ? Is WP8 simply hopeless for the time > being ? Am I missing anything ? > > Thanks in advance, > Salvo > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Best Regards, Corey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 22: 5:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from itouch.co.nz (fw2.wilsonandhorton.co.nz [203.99.66.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40BE037B6D9 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 22:05:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonc@itouch.co.nz) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by itouch.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA02204; Mon, 8 May 2000 17:05:06 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from jonc) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 17:05:06 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Joshua Delong Thomas Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Application Dependencies (Not make dependencies) Message-ID: <20000508170506.B1033@jonc.ntdns.wilsonandhorton.co.n> References: <20000508092414.C685@jonc.ntdns.wilsonandhorton.co.n> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from jdt2101@ksu.edu on Sun, May 07, 2000 at 10:17:51PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 10:17:51PM -0500, Joshua Delong Thomas wrote: > I was under the impression that this is not true for linux. Just in idle > curiosity, would you happen to know why the difference? The critical difference is how the xterm's shell responds when the session dies. With csh or tcsh, programs running in background do not receive a NOHUP signal; with sh (and perhaps bash), they do. So unless the application specifically handles or masks NOHUP, they will terminate. > > On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 03:38:11PM -0500, Joshua Delong Thomas wrote: > > > When I start an app in an xterm, it should be completely dependent upon > > > the xterm running, right? I'm curious because I run apps from > > > an xterm and I send it to the background, and when I close the xterm the > > > process continues running. Is that supposed to happen? > > > > Yes, if you're not running sh(1). If you're running sh(1), when the xterm > > dies, a NOHUP signal is sent to the application. > > -- > > Jonathan Chen > > -- Jonathan Chen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 22:34:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F16F137B934 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 22:34:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from news@proissl.de) Received: from fmrl01.sul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 12ogBC-0001jt-01; Mon, 8 May 2000 07:34:06 +0200 Received: from p5 (340030521088-0001@[62.156.36.153]) by fmrl01.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 12ogB9-2A9fLkC; Mon, 8 May 2000 07:34:03 +0200 Reply-To: From: "Bernd Proissl" To: "David Banning" , "Lee Howard" Cc: "FreeBSD" , Subject: RE: flexfax: tiff 3.4 has no libtiff.so.x shared Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 07:32:22 +0200 Message-ID: <000501bfb8ae$c8d84460$0401a8c0@p5> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3915C3E2.41C67EA6@funcow.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal X-Sender: 340030521088-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: tracker [mailto:tracker@funcow.com]On Behalf Of David Banning > Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 9:29 PM > To: news@proissl.de; Lee Howard > Cc: FreeBSD; flexfax@sgi.com > Subject: Re: flexfax: tiff 3.4 has no libtiff.so.x shared > > > Thanks for your reply. I got the patch and applied it. > There were a couple of gitches. > First - the patch instructs me to use "patch -bp0 --verbose < patchfile" > FreeBSD says it doesn't understand the --verbose option > > Leaving that option out, I get errors > on 3 of the 9 files it patches, > leaving me .rej files. > > Any idea where to go from here? just a guess: check the version against which you have to run the patch. Bernd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 23: 2:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sharmas.dhs.org (c62443-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com [24.0.69.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E9337BD25 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 23:02:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adsharma@sharmas.dhs.org) Received: (from adsharma@localhost) by sharmas.dhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA61457 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 May 2000 23:01:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adsharma) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 23:01:15 -0700 From: Arun Sharma To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: setuid for interpreted languages ? Message-ID: <20000507230115.A61438@sharmas.dhs.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How do I make a python script, a setuid program in FreeBSD ? I have a py-kde based python script that needs to be setuid to read the temperature sensors on my ABit BP6. # chmod 4755 khm.py doesn't seem to do it. -Arun To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 23: 3:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from satan.freebsdsystems.com (24.69.168.6.on.wave.home.com [24.69.168.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C6237B924 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 23:03:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lnb@satan.freebsdsystems.com) Received: (from lnb@localhost) by satan.freebsdsystems.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA20222 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 8 May 2000 02:07:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lnb) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 02:07:12 -0400 (EDT) Organization: FreeBSD Systems Inc. From: Lanny Baron To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: getting worperfect for FreeBSD..a simpler way Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello fellow FreeBSD'ers, Save yourselves a headache. I went to the port /usr/ports/editors/wordperfect. You know the make does: make ===> wordperfect-8.0 'The source to this port may not be automatically fetched due to licensing restrictions. You MUST fetch the source manually after reading and agreeing to the license at: http://linux.corel.com/products/linuxproducts_wp8.htm Once GUILG00.GZ has been downloaded, move it to /usr/ports/distfiles and then restart this build.'. Well I went to that ghastly corel site. What pain in the tush that was. When you finally get to the cnet or ftp.cdrom.com clickable link it opens it and you see all the gibberish on the screen. Then i tried right click save as...html??? Nope. No good. So just do the following as non root then as the port instructions say, mv the gz file to /usr/ports/distfiles So try this: lnb@satan:~$fetch ftp://ftp.download.com/pub/win95/business/GUILG/GUILG00.GZ Receiving GUILG00.GZ (23730473 bytes): 100% 23730473 bytes transferred in 185.6 seconds (124.88 Kbytes/s) lnb@satan:~$su Password: satan# mv GUILG00.GZ /usr/ports/distfiles satan# cd /usr/ports/distfiles satan# ls Digest-MD5-2.09.tar.gz jpegsrc.v6b.tar.gz GUILG00.GZ satan# pwd /usr/ports/editors/wordperfect satan# make ===> Extracting for wordperfect-8.0 >> Checksum OK for GUILG00.GZ. ===> Patching for wordperfect-8.0 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for wordperfect-8.0 ===> Configuring for wordperfect-8.0 satan# make install Then follow the intructions ... but dont waste your time with going to the corel site. Just use the fetch command shown above. It works, trust me. Regards, Lanny Baron, Master FreeBSD Administrator ---------------------------------- Date: 08-May-00 Time: 02:07:12 Speer's 1st Law of Proofreading: The visibility of an error is inversely proportional to the number of times you have looked at it. ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 23:12:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nscache2.x-treme.gr (mail1.x-treme.gr [212.120.196.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57DBA37BDF5 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 23:12:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from hades.hell.gr (pat3.x-treme.gr [212.120.197.195]) by nscache2.x-treme.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3/IPNG-ADV-ANTISPAM-0.1) with ESMTP id JAA01826; Mon, 8 May 2000 09:11:52 +0300 Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e47IFjY69334; Sun, 7 May 2000 21:15:45 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 21:15:45 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: sdodson Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: spam? Message-ID: <20000507211545.B69306@hades.hell.gr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from sdodson@enia.net on Sun, May 07, 2000 at 03:33:51AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 03:33:51AM -0400, sdodson wrote: > > Is it just me or have i been getting spam through freebsd-questions? I don't see any spam in the last few days that I'm subscribed again, and I'm not using RBL or DUL which Brennan mentioned in his earlier post. Can we see some example messages that you considered `spam', full with their headers, if the problem persists? Ciao, Giorgos. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 23:13: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nscache2.x-treme.gr (mail1.x-treme.gr [212.120.196.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8C1937BDF9 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 23:12:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from hades.hell.gr (pat3.x-treme.gr [212.120.197.195]) by nscache2.x-treme.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3/IPNG-ADV-ANTISPAM-0.1) with ESMTP id JAA01834; Mon, 8 May 2000 09:11:58 +0300 Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e47IDIf69321; Sun, 7 May 2000 21:13:18 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 21:13:17 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Thomas Good Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP succeeds...DNS fails Message-ID: <20000507211317.A69306@hades.hell.gr> References: <200005070319.WAA66294@sullivan.realtime.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from tomg@mailhost.nrnet.org on Sun, May 07, 2000 at 08:18:21AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 08:18:21AM -0400, Thomas Good wrote: > Hi. I have user PPP running and my /etc/ppp/ppp.conf file is > in order. I can connect and telnet via IP. But dns is failing > despite my nameservers being listed in /etc/resolv.conf. > > Anyone know what I am missing? First check to make sure that your /etc/host.conf file contains 'bind' somewhere, which tells your resolver library to contact the name=servers listed in resolv.conf after all the previous ways of resolving have failed. My /etc/host.conf looks like: % cat /etc/host.conf hosts bind Then, check the routing table. You should have your default route pointing to the ppp link. View the routing table with: # netstat -rn If your default route is not added, then you need to change your ppp.conf file to set the routing table up when connecting. This is usually done by the following line in the `default' entry: default: add default HISADDR My 4.0-stable system has this by default, so if you haven't messed with your `default' entry in ppp.conf you should have it too :) Ciao, Giorgos. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 23:20:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gerbang.untan.ac.id (gerbang.untan.ac.id [167.205.153.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 82E7237B5B1 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 23:20:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin@untan.ac.id) Received: (qmail 4843 invoked by uid 1030); 8 May 2000 03:22:48 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 May 2000 03:22:48 -0000 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 11:22:47 +0800 (BORT) From: Administrator To: William Freeman Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: internal modem onboard... In-Reply-To: <39161FB5.97881A3@picusnet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 7 May 2000, William Freeman wrote: > Administrator wrote: > > > > Hi... > > i have internal modem onboard at my PC.. > > and my favorite OS is FreeBSD 4.0 Release... > > i know that FreeBSD40R can detect onboard hardware like ethernet card > > onboard... dc0 (davicom) > > my questions is how to find know my internal modem can detected by > > freeBSD4.0R... > > and how to dialup or dialin use internal modem onboard (card)... > > use /dev/cuaa0 or ...??? > > > > i suppose that it all depends on what type of modem. winmodem will not > work. anything else should...i love my Viking 56k v.90 external modem, > but then, i'm werid like that...makes a cool sound though. > > -- i'ms sorry i'm forget .. btw here my modem ----------------------------------- ModemHardwareId=UNIMODEM040124DA ModemDescription=HSP56 MicroModem PortHardwareId=PTPORT PortDescription=HSP Modem Port ------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 23:42:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wcug.wwu.edu (sloth.wcug.wwu.edu [140.160.164.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CFB9137B602 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 23:42:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doc@wcug.wwu.edu) Received: (qmail 2624 invoked by uid 1074); 8 May 2000 06:42:14 -0000 Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 23:42:14 -0700 (PDT) From: David Daugherty X-Sender: doc@sloth To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Gateway solo 9300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'll be getting a Gateway Solo 9300 in the next week and I'd like to install a dual boot Win2000 and fbsd on it. Can anyone tell me if their are any gotcha's on this system? The APM? PAO? I'd like to use X on the fbsd portion. The Win partition is for the DVD and the wife. Thanks in advance for any knowledge espoused. David Software Eng. - NetManage Work email: david.daugherty@netmanage.com Home email: doc@wcug.wwu.edu ICQ 21106703 Washington State Resident To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 23:48:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.EDU (gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.edu [141.165.1.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E65837B5C4 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 23:48:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gsi22419@gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.EDU) Received: from localhost (gsi22419@localhost) by gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id CAA27770; Mon, 8 May 2000 02:46:21 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 02:46:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: sdodson , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: spam? In-Reply-To: <20000507211545.B69306@hades.hell.gr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Most certainly. I haven't looked at them too closely. All i noticed was that freebsd.org was listed in the headers, and this is the only way i'm associated with freebsd through e-mail. -scott On Sun, 7 May 2000, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 03:33:51AM -0400, sdodson wrote: > > > > Is it just me or have i been getting spam through freebsd-questions? > > I don't see any spam in the last few days that I'm subscribed again, and I'm > not using RBL or DUL which Brennan mentioned in his earlier post. > > Can we see some example messages that you considered `spam', full with their > headers, if the problem persists? > > Ciao, > Giorgos. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 7 23:50:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from satan.freebsdsystems.com (24.69.168.6.on.wave.home.com [24.69.168.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF6C37BD73 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 23:50:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lnb@satan.freebsdsystems.com) Received: (from lnb@localhost) by satan.freebsdsystems.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA20801; Mon, 8 May 2000 02:54:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lnb) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 02:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Organization: FreeBSD Systems Inc. From: Lanny Baron To: Wai Chan Subject: RE: Mcafee uvscan Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Scott Gasch Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I thought these viruses can only affect a Doze box. You mean if i open a mail on any of my FreeBSD servers, that virus can affect my FreeBSD System? Regards. Lanny On 05-May-00 Wai Chan wrote: > McAfee AntiVirus 4.7 for Unix (FreeBSD). Finally, McAfee released something > to support FreeBSD. > > http://www.nai.com/asp_set/buy_try/try/products_evals.asp > > Complete/Registered version is available (I saw it on their upgrade web > site), so I think limited customer support should be available too. > > best wishes, > Wai Chan > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Scott Gasch > Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 3:04 PM > To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Mcafee uvscan > > > In /usr/ports/security there is a version of VirusScan from Mcafee. > It's an evaluation copy and apparently only works for 30 days. Great, > so I want to buy it so... > > I visited their website and found only DOS, Windows, Mac versions. > I checked their FTP site and didn't find anything. > I called them on the phone and the tech support guy I got said "What's > linux?" (the port is a linux binary) > Finally I sent mail to info@mcafee.com which promptly bounced. > > So my question to you is this -- does anyone know the status of > Mcafee's support for UNIX? If the project is still alive has anyone > managed to get these guys to take your money? If its dead, what are > the alternatives? > > Thanks, > Scott > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 0:14:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from satan.freebsdsystems.com (24.69.168.6.on.wave.home.com [24.69.168.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC9437B8BA for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 00:14:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lnb@satan.freebsdsystems.com) Received: (from lnb@localhost) by satan.freebsdsystems.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA20978; Mon, 8 May 2000 03:13:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lnb) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20000508103515.I61921@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 03:13:41 -0400 (EDT) Organization: FreeBSD Systems Inc. From: Lanny Baron To: Greg Lehey Subject: Re: WordPerfect far from being perfect ... Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Salvo Bartolotta Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I read the mail, then went and downloaded the .gz file (not by the lame methods of going to the corel site...that is pain in the butt.) but when I got the file in few minuets and put it in /usr/ports/distfiles and returned to /usr/ports/editors/wordperfect.It loaded in like 2 seconds. I have here a PII 400 and 64 MB of ram. When you did the make install, did you go as root do /usr/local/lib/corel/wpbin and run ./xwp ? If you didn't that might be your problem. I was able to open my windows word business plans like fast and they are on a server 20 miles from this box. Hope that gives you some help. Regards, Lanny Baron On 08-May-00 Greg Lehey wrote: > On Monday, 8 May 2000 at 0:20:52 +0000, Salvo Bartolotta wrote: >> Dear FreeBSD'ers, >> >> I have just installed Wordperfect 8 via the port under a 3.4-STABLE >> (as of 25 April) system of mine. >> >> It is no joy. When I load it for the first time, it takes *minutes* >> just to show a "save file" window or an "open file" window on my PIII >> 450 Mhz 384MB RAM. Then it behaves normally. Resources should BY NO >> MEANS be an issue. I can't seem to find information about this problem >> in the archives. >> >> Is anyone else experiencing this ? Is WP8 simply hopeless for the time >> being ? Am I missing anything ? > > Could this be a DNS problem? > > Greg > -- > When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. > For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > See complete headers for address and phone numbers > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 0:15:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc2.bc.home.com (ha1.rdc2.bc.wave.home.com [24.2.10.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C897037B8BA for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 00:15:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mackinnon.m@home.com) Received: from cr349997a ([24.115.89.146]) by mail.rdc2.bc.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.17 201-229-119) with SMTP id <20000508071504.IIED20288.mail.rdc2.bc.home.com@cr349997a>; Mon, 8 May 2000 00:15:04 -0700 Message-ID: <000f01bfb8be$67490940$92597318@rct1.bc.wave.home.com> From: "Michael MacKinnon" To: "Brennan W Stehling" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Install Hell... Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 00:24:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for the quick response. As I mentioned below, I've already tried three different HDs, though. (10GB, 4GB, and 400MB) Are you familiar with Award BIOS (circa 1998)? Is there some funky setting that has to be shut off before Linux or FreeBSD can put their file system on it? Is there a particular geometry that I have to use (LBA, CHS (or normal), or Large settings) for the hard drive? FreeBSD Install seems to find the normal settings just after kernel configuration but displays the LBA settings in the screen that partitions the disk. Any other ideas? Thanks Mike. ----- Original Message ----- From: Brennan W Stehling To: Michael MacKinnon Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 8:52 PM Subject: Re: Install Hell... > I would have to say it is a hardware failure. Try with a different > hard drive. You tried it with two different systems, FreeBSD and Linux > and it did not after many tries. > > You must be pretty sure it is not the software. Now you have to > troubleshoot the hardware. > > Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin > projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com > On Sun, 7 May 2000, Michael MacKinnon wrote: > > > Hi there, > > I've been trying to install FreeBSD for about two weeks > > now, and I've been having absolutely no luck whatsoever. > > > > I'm trying to install version 3.1 from the Walnut Grove CDs. > > > > Everything appears to go just fine until it tries to set up > > the files system (when it uses the newfs command). > > Then I get page faults, lockups, and reboots (oh my!). > > Any changes I try to make just seem to leave me with a different error > > in the same place. > > I've even tried to install Linux and it fails on the filesystem,too. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Details on my system: > > > > Celeron 466 > > Award BIOS > > 32MB RAM > > ATAPI CD-ROM / DVD player (Pioneer) > > 10 Gig Western Digital HD > > (also tried a Maxtor 4Gig and a Maxtor 400MB) > > > > Extra question: > > should I use LBA, Normal, or Large in the BIOS? > > > > > > Thanks for any help... > > Michael MacKinnon > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 0:23: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from satan.freebsdsystems.com (24.69.168.6.on.wave.home.com [24.69.168.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D60F37BD73 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 00:23:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lnb@satan.freebsdsystems.com) Received: (from lnb@localhost) by satan.freebsdsystems.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA21094; Mon, 8 May 2000 03:27:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lnb) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20000504233539.X13668@fw.wintelcom.net> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 03:27:06 -0400 (EDT) Organization: FreeBSD Systems Inc. From: Lanny Baron To: Alfred Perlstein Subject: Re: named at boot Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, David Daugherty Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, From my /etc/rc.conf (don't mess with /etc/defaults/rc.conf and put this in /etc/rc.conf named_enable="YES" named_program="named" named_flags=" -b /etc/namedb/named.conf" named_flags="-u bind -g bind" Regards, Lanny Baron On 05-May-00 Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * David Daugherty [000504 22:59] wrote: >> I've set up DNS according to a tutorial at >> http://linux.open.ac.uk/issue44/pollman/dns.html but when I reboot my >> system hangs as it's starting local dameons. I have to ^C to get it to >> finish booting and then I notice that named is not yet running and have to >> manually start it. >> >> I presume the hanging is because some of my dameons are trying to resolve >> some host. Where should I be starting named from? >> >> my rc.local: > > [...snip] > >> >> Should I just be starting named in rc.local? > > rc.conf has hooks for named, see /etc/defaults/rc.conf for the lines > you need to add to /etc/rc.conf. > > -Alfred > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 0:25:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from home.offwhite.net (home.offwhite.net [156.46.35.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3855837B89B for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 00:25:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brennan@offwhite.net) Received: from localhost (brennan@localhost) by home.offwhite.net (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA78965; Mon, 8 May 2000 02:25:35 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 02:25:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Brennan W Stehling To: Michael MacKinnon Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Install Hell... In-Reply-To: <000f01bfb8be$67490940$92597318@rct1.bc.wave.home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I never really get into the guts of the disks. I have so far stuck to Western Digital for IDE drives and Seagate for SCSI. I simply know that they have good warranties and that they are supported by FreeBSD and Linux easily. I really do not know much about the geometry issue. I would still tend to think it is a hardware issue, but not sure what it could be if is dying the same place every time. Are you giving it enough space for each partition? Is your cd drive fully supported? I know that FreeBSD may boot off the cd, but after it gets going it may need to use a FreeBSD driver, and that is where you may have problems, but I think you are already past this stage. Hmm... I am not sure how much more help I can be. Sounds like a real puzzle to me. Perhaps you can write up a description of each step so I get a better picture of it in my head. I been doing installs of mostly FreeBSD form cdrom for almost 2 years now and have worked through some of the hard times. I have also done installs of recently released Linux distros which are so easy to complete. (Caldera is easy, but they all mess up X) If I better understand what you are doing I may be able to help. Post it on the list with a different subject like, "Installation Trouble," to try to get the attention of more list members. Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com Microsoft: Will you get a macro virus today? On Mon, 8 May 2000, Michael MacKinnon wrote: > Thanks for the quick response. > > As I mentioned below, I've already tried three different HDs, though. > (10GB, 4GB, and 400MB) > > Are you familiar with Award BIOS (circa 1998)? Is there some funky > setting that has to be shut off before Linux or FreeBSD can put their > file system on it? > Is there a particular geometry that I have to use (LBA, CHS (or normal), > or Large settings) for the hard drive? FreeBSD Install seems to find the > normal settings > just after kernel configuration but displays the LBA settings in the screen > that partitions the disk. > > Any other ideas? > > Thanks > Mike. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brennan W Stehling > To: Michael MacKinnon > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 8:52 PM > Subject: Re: Install Hell... > > > > I would have to say it is a hardware failure. Try with a different > > hard drive. You tried it with two different systems, FreeBSD and Linux > > and it did not after many tries. > > > > You must be pretty sure it is not the software. Now you have to > > troubleshoot the hardware. > > > > Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin > > projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com > > > On Sun, 7 May 2000, Michael MacKinnon wrote: > > > > > Hi there, > > > I've been trying to install FreeBSD for about two weeks > > > now, and I've been having absolutely no luck whatsoever. > > > > > > I'm trying to install version 3.1 from the Walnut Grove CDs. > > > > > > Everything appears to go just fine until it tries to set up > > > the files system (when it uses the newfs command). > > > Then I get page faults, lockups, and reboots (oh my!). > > > Any changes I try to make just seem to leave me with a different error > > > in the same place. > > > I've even tried to install Linux and it fails on the filesystem,too. > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > Details on my system: > > > > > > Celeron 466 > > > Award BIOS > > > 32MB RAM > > > ATAPI CD-ROM / DVD player (Pioneer) > > > 10 Gig Western Digital HD > > > (also tried a Maxtor 4Gig and a Maxtor 400MB) > > > > > > Extra question: > > > should I use LBA, Normal, or Large in the BIOS? > > > > > > > > > Thanks for any help... > > > Michael MacKinnon > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 0:44:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from satan.freebsdsystems.com (24.69.168.6.on.wave.home.com [24.69.168.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C3237BFB0 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 00:44:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lnb@satan.freebsdsystems.com) Received: (from lnb@localhost) by satan.freebsdsystems.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA21275; Mon, 8 May 2000 03:48:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lnb) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <77365954A3D.AAA64B1@mail2.qx.net> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 03:48:25 -0400 (EDT) Organization: FreeBSD Systems Inc. From: Lanny Baron To: jfreeze@qx.net Subject: RE: Need smbd config help Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Here is what your smb.conf should look like. Mind you I have remote smb server downtown so ignore those lines. You MUST make sure you have made a dir (i did not use ports for samba I use the tarball from my mirror (I am Canadian mirror) I will assume you don't have an NT box on your lan, if that is the case your samba server will be the PDC for your domain. I am not sure about the _ in your workgroup name either. Get samba-2.0.7 as it comes complete with the O'Reilly book now. global] workgroup = FREEBSD netbios name = SATAN server string = Freedom Technologies server %v on host %h encrypt passwords = Yes min password length = 0 username map = /usr/local/samba/lib/username.map debug level = 3 log file = /var/log/samba/log.%U max log size = 50 name resolve order = wins bcast hosts time server = Yes logon script = netlogin.bat logon path = \\%N\profiles\%U logon drive = L logon home = \\%N\%U\ domain logons = Yes os level = 65 lm announce = True preferred master = Yes domain master = Yes wins support = Yes remote announce = 216.126.88.51 216.126.95.33 remote browse sync = 216.126.88.51 216.126.95.33 unix realname = Yes guest account = pcguest admin users = lnb create mask = 0644 [homes] comment = Home Directories path = %H valid users = %S writeable = Yes browseable = No [netlogon] comment = Netlogon Service path = /usr/local/samba/netlogon write list = @wheel writeable = Yes locking = No [profiles] comment = Users profiles path = /usr/local/samba/profiles writeable = Yes create mask = 01777 directory mask = 01777 inherit permissions = Yes You need a netlogin.bat. If you know some dos commands, use either notepad or wordpad to make them. As I said earlier, I did not use /usr/ports for my samba install. So the default location for all samba files is /usr/local/samba if your is like that, as root (in /usr/local/samba) mkdir private <---chmod 700 the cd to private and touch smbpasswd <---chmod 600 then cd .. and mkdir netlogon and put the netlogin.bat in /usr/local/samba/netlogon As it stands now, ( i am still trying to figure this out) the profiles go to /home/user/profiles (Application History Profiles all the windows crap) for Don't worry about the 10,000 files. Here is an output of smbstatus: Locked files: Pid DenyMode R/W Oplock Name -------------------------------------------------- 14984 DENY_WRITE RDONLY EXCLUSIVE+BATCH /stg/programs/msoffice/PFILES/MSOFFICE/OFFICE/1033/WW9INTL.DLL Mon May 8 00:38:57 2000 14984 DENY_NONE RDWR EXCLUSIVE+BATCH /home/lnb/my_docs/freebsdsystems/bus-plan/3M-borrowing/balance-income-cashflow-o n-one.xls Mon May 8 01:07:51 2000 14984 DENY_NONE RDONLY EXCLUSIVE+BATCH /home/lnb/my_docs/freebsdsystems/bus-plan/plan1.html Mon May 8 01:07:36 2000 14984 DENY_WRITE RDONLY EXCLUSIVE+BATCH /stg/programs/PMAIL/winpm-32.exe Mon May 8 00:23:56 2000 14984 DENY_WRITE RDONLY EXCLUSIVE+BATCH /stg/programs/msoffice/PFILES/COMMON/MSSHARED/PROOF/1033/MSGR2EN.DLL Mon May 8 00:39:57 2000 14984 DENY_WRITE RDONLY EXCLUSIVE+BATCH /stg/programs/msoffice/PFILES/MSOFFICE/OFFICE/F1.ACS Mon May 8 00:39:25 2000 14984 DENY_NONE RDONLY EXCLUSIVE+BATCH /stg/programs/PMAIL/winpm-32.dat Mon May 8 00:23:57 2000 14984 DENY_NONE RDWR EXCLUSIVE+BATCH /home/lnb/my_docs/business-plans/master/freedom-technologies-corp.doc Mon May 8 00:39:23 2000 14984 DENY_NONE RDONLY EXCLUSIVE+BATCH /home/lnb/my_docs/john.html Mon May 8 01:07:25 2000 FICE/OFFICE/MSO9.DLL Mon May 8 00:22:25 2000 14984 DENY_NONE RDONLY EXCLUSIVE+BATCH /home/lnb/my_docs/shortcut to northwind.lnk Mon May 8 01:07:24 2000 14984 DENY_WRITE RDONLY EXCLUSIVE+BATCH /stg/programs/msoffice/DISK2/PFILES/MSOFFICE/OFFICE/BLNMGRPS.DLL Mon May 8 00:39:26 2000 14984 DENY_WRITE RDONLY EXCLUSIVE+BATCH /stg/programs/msoffice/DISK2/PFILES/MSOFFICE/OFFICE/1033/OBALLOON.DLL Mon May 8 00:39:26 2000 14984 DENY_WRITE RDONLY EXCLUSIVE+BATCH /stg/programs/msoffice/PFILES/MSOFFICE/OFFICE/1033/XLINTL32.DLL Mon May 8 01:07:19 2000 14984 DENY_WRITE RDONLY EXCLUSIVE+BATCH /stg/programs/PMAIL/Hts32.dll Mon May 8 00:23:56 2000 Share mode memory usage (bytes): 1045208(99%) free + 2912(0%) used + 456(0%) overhead = 1048576(100%) total That should help you. Did you install swat? That will help you too. Regards, Lanny Baron, Master FreeBSD Administrator ---------------------------------- Date: 08-May-00 Time: 03:48:25 Lewis's Law of Travel: The first piece of luggage out of the chute doesn't belong to anyone, ever. ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 2:46:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ducky.nz.freebsd.org (chilled.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD90637B5EF for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 02:46:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.int.nz.freebsd.org [192.168.0.99]) by ducky.nz.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA09236 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 21:44:03 +1200 (NZST) Message-Id: <200005080944.VAA09236@ducky.nz.freebsd.org> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: langille.org To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 21:44:00 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: new website: freshports - website for ports Reply-To: dan@langille.org X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks, Some of you will already know about http://freshports.org as you've been helping me along the way. For the rest of you, this is probably your first encounter. If not, the rumour mill works better than I think. FreshPorts is similar to freshmeat, but for ports. It shows you what ports have been recently updated and what ports have been recently added. You can also select those ports which you wish to watch. Eventually, mail notification will be sent out when a port on your watch list changes (but not right now). So please have a look, provide feedback, let me know what you think. There's still some substantial work to be be done on this website, but I think what's there will give you the overall idea of what can be done with the site. Suggestions for improvement are always welcome. Offers to code the improvements are even more welcome. My thanks to those that offered support, encouragement, hints, clues, and direction over the past few weeks. I know I've learned more about ports and php than I ever wanted to know... take care -- Dan Langille [I'm looking for more work] http://www.langille.org/ | http://www.unixathome.org/ http://www.racingsystem.com/ | http://www.freebsddiary.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 4:30:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from citadel.cequrux.com (citadel.cdsec.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79FAA37BA74 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 04:30:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cequrux.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cequrux.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11188 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 12:03:38 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel.cequrux.com via recvmail id 11183; Mon May 8 12:02:49 2000 Message-ID: <391690DC.D28018C0@cequrux.com> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 12:03:08 +0200 From: Graham Wheeler Organization: Cequrux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 3Com OfficeConnect PCMCIA card and FreeBSD 4.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all I have just bought one of these cards (model 3CCH572BT) and am having difficulty getting it to be recognised. I have the pccard stuff in the kernel config, and a "device ep" line as well (which seems to be what is needed, given that the driver source is in /dev/ep/if_ep_pccard.c). However, it isn't being detected upon booting. The card definitely works under Windoze so it isn't a hardware fault, and the if_ep_pccard.c source file explicitly lists this card as being supported. Can anyone suggest what I need to do to get it to work? Please e-mail responses directly to me as well as the list, as I am not a subscriber to the questions list. TIA gram -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cequrux.com Director, Research and Development WWW: http://www.cequrux.com CEQURUX Technologies Phone: +27(21)423-6065 Firewalls/VPN Specialists Fax: +27(21)424-3656 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 4:52:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hq1.tyfon.net (hq1.tyfon.net [213.212.29.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD17D37C283 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 04:52:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dl@tyfon.net) Received: from enigmatic (dan [192.168.1.20]) by hq1.tyfon.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8EF771C7B7 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:52:42 +0200 (CEST) From: "Dan Larsson" To: Subject: FreeBSD website issues Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 13:54:26 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm having issues with the URL http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi. Is this something isolated to me or is there a problem with the cgis? Regards ------------ Dan Larsson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 4:56:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.nsw.optushome.com.au (ha1.rdc1.nsw.optushome.com.au [203.164.2.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76EE037B855 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 04:56:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stevec@pobox.com.au) Received: from [192.168.1.17] ([203.164.13.231]) by mail.rdc1.nsw.optushome.com.au (InterMail vM.4.01.02.17 201-229-119) with ESMTP id <20000508115645.VODJ7578.mail.rdc1.nsw.optushome.com.au@[192.168.1.17]>; Mon, 8 May 2000 21:56:45 +1000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 21:56:44 +1000 Subject: Re: FreeBSD website issues From: Stephen Coy To: Dan Larsson , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG on 8/5/00 9:54 PM, Dan Larsson at dl@tyfon.net wrote: > I'm having issues with the URL http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi. > Is this something isolated to me or is there a problem with the > cgis? > It's not isolated to you - I'm having trouble too: > While trying to retrieve the URL: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/search.cgi? > > The following error was encountered: > > * Connection Failed > > The system returned: > > (61) Connection refused > > The remote host or network may be down. Please try the request again. > Steve Coy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 5:18:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail-ob.kamp.net (mail-ob.kamp.net [195.62.97.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C81F37B5F0 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 05:18:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from farid.hajji@ob.kamp.net) Received: from bsdevil.meta.net (port-52.d.kamp.de [195.62.120.244]) by mail-ob.kamp.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e48CI7p00512; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:18:09 +0200 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 14:18:07 +0200 Message-Id: <200005081218.e48CI7p00512@mail-ob.kamp.net> From: Farid Hajji To: questions@freebsd.org, schilling@fokus.gmd.de Subject: cdrecord, freebsd and atapi cd-writers X-Mailer: Emacs 20.4.1 / FreeBSD 3.4 Reply-To: farid.hajji@ob.kamp.net Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I'm currently trying to figure out how to use cdrecord on FreeBSD with an atapi (ide) cd-writer. My setup is: Operating System: FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE Cdrecord-Version: Cdrecord release 1.8a33 Hardware : /dev/wd0s1 Primary IDE-Disk /dev/da0s1 Internal SCSI-Disk on an ahc0 /dev/acd0 IDE-CDROM /dev/acd1 ATAPI CD-Writer (HP CD-Writer 7200+) The relevant parts from dmesg are: -------------- dmesg output -------------- dmesg output -------------------- ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 12 on pci0.10.0 ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 6105MB (12504240 sectors), 13232 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, intr, dma, iordis acd0: drive speed 1377KB/sec, 256KB cache acd0: supported read types: CD-DA acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, dma, iordy acd1: drive speed 344 - 1034KB/sec, 768KB cache acd1: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA, packet track acd1: supported write types: CD-R, CD-RW, test write acd1: Audio: play, 128 volume levels acd1: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd1: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked, lock protected da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 2063MB (4226725 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 263C) -------------- dmesg output -------------- dmesg output -------------------- I also enabled the pass0 device in the kernel config file. Here the relevant parts: -------------- relevant parts from kernel config file ---------------------- # ATAPI devices options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus options ATAPI_STATIC #Don't do it as an LKM device acd0 #IDE CD-ROM # SCSI Controllers controller ahc0 # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices # SCSI peripherals controller scbus0 # SCSI bus (required) device da0 # Direct Access (disks) device sa0 # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd0 # CD device pass0 # Passthrough device (direct SCSI) pseudo-device vn 2 # mounting files as filesystems vnconfig(8) -------------- relevant parts from kernel config file ---------------------- Still, I'm having trouble using cdrecord. AFAIK, cdrecord talks to ATAPI Drives through some kind of SCSI over IDE and needs some scsi passthrough or scsi-ide emulator. With my current setup, cdrecord -scanbus returns: bsdevil# cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord release 1.8a33 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 Jörg Schilling Using libscg version 'schily-0.1' scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'IBM ' 'DORS-32160W ' 'WA6A' Disk 0,1,0 1) * 0,2,0 2) * 0,3,0 3) * 0,4,0 4) * 0,5,0 5) * 0,6,0 6) * 0,7,0 7) * The CD-Writer was not recognized there. I couldn't figure out which dev=... to use for the /dev/acd1 cd-writer. BTW, the writer works very well under Linux with the ide-scsi kernel-module together with the generic scsi code 'sg'. The drive is recognized by cdrecord in scsibus1 with the dev=1,0,0 line. The only quirck there was to make sure, that the ide cd-writer was not grabbed at boot time by the ide driver. I'm sorry if this is a FAQ. I couldn't find any relevant information on ATAPI CD-Writers, Cdrecord and FreeBSD. Thank you for your help. -Farid. -- Farid Hajji Broicherdorfstr. 83, D-41564 Kaarst, Germany Phone: +49-2131-67-555, E-Mail: farid.hajji@ob.kamp.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 5:18:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE7B37B654 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 05:18:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jan.Grant@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:18:39 +0100 Received: from localhost (cmjg@localhost) by mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18991; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:18:37 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 13:18:37 +0100 (BST) From: Jan Grant To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Bug? Crash with FBSD 3-3R, fdesc filesystem, tcsh. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK, this is really weird. I'm running fbsd 3-3 release (not for much longer; just needed to find the time to upgrade). I've got fdesc /dev fdesc rw,union 0 0 in /etc/fstab. I've got a strange problem which is causing the machine to hang. I wanted a look at /dev/sndstat, so I typed: > cat /dev/sn and the machine froze. Odd, but repeatable. No panic message (it's a tight hang, needs a reset to fix). echo /dev/sn* works fine. This is with the tcsh port tcsh 6.06.00 (Cornell) 1995-05-13 (i386-intel-FreeBSD) options 8b,nls,dl,al,rh It's not a big problem (I don't need /dev/fd generally anyway; umounting it and the problem goes away). I don't know if this problem is with 4.0-stable too, or actually if this is a known problem (can't connect to the bug database right now). And since I've got work to do, I don't have the time to repeatedly crash the machine right now to see what's going on. So this is all too vague for a problem report; I don't know if it's a problem with union mounts, the fdesc filesystem, or what. I just wanted to see if anyone else has the same issue..? jan -- jan grant, ILRT, University of Bristol. http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/ Tel +44(0)117 9287163 Fax +44 (0)117 9287112 RFC822 jan.grant@bris.ac.uk Unfortunately, I have a very good idea how fast my keys are moving. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 5:34:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.one.net (mail.one.net [206.112.192.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B43F637B51F for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 05:34:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from activex1@one.net) Received: from ztown2-1-216.adsl.one.net ([207.78.253.216] EHLO activex-dev.com ident: IDENT-NOT-QUERIED [port 27385]) by mail.one.net with ESMTP id <834001-27468>; Mon, 8 May 2000 08:34:42 -0400 Message-ID: <39165FE9.BA2480C8@activex-dev.com> From: Sam Carleton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13-SMP i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SuSE , FreeBSD-Questions Subject: NFS problems, it locks up, HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 08:34:39 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a fresh install of SuSE 6.3 and FreeBSD 4.0. The SuSE machine is the NFS server and FreeBSD the client. I am able to mount a directory on the FreeBSD box and list directories on the mount. As soon as I try to copy over a file, the NFS connections locks on me. What do I have setup incorrectly? More info: With previous installs of SuSE 6.2 I tried setting one Linux up as an NFS server and another as client. I ran into the EXACT same problem. I have a feeling that I do NOT have something configured correctly on the SuSE end of things. This is the status of my SuSE rc.config file: START_PORTMAP="yes" NFS_SERVER="yes" USE_KERNEL_NFSD="yes" USE_KERNEL_NFSD_NUMBER="4" NFS_SERVER_UGID="no" REEXPORT_NFS="no" Do I need to compile the Linux kernel in some special way? I am using the default SMP kernel. Is there some daemon I need to have running? In the O'Reilly book it talks about biod on the client and the rpc.lockd and rpc.statd daemon's on the server. What daemons do I need running on the SuSE NFS server and FreeBSD client? (As soon as I have this working with the FreeBSD client, there will be a SuSE client, too). Any points folks have is very much appreciated!!!!! Sam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 5:36:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (mailhub.fokus.gmd.de [193.174.154.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06EED37B51F for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 05:36:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from schilling@fokus.gmd.de) Received: from burner.fokus.gmd.de (burner [193.175.133.116]) by mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06824; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:34:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from jes@localhost) by burner.fokus.gmd.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA18951; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:33:25 +0200 (MEST) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 14:33:25 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200005081233.OAA18951@burner.fokus.gmd.de> From: schilling@fokus.gmd.de To: farid.hajji@ob.kamp.net, questions@freebsd.org, schilling@fokus.gmd.de Subject: Re: cdrecord, freebsd and atapi cd-writers Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD does not support ATAPI drives. The drivers are not integrated into the SCSI kernel subsystem.... Integrated ATAPI is on: NetBSD, Win32, OS/2, Linux >From farid.hajji@ob.kamp.net Mon May 8 14:16:31 2000 >I'm currently trying to figure out how to use cdrecord >on FreeBSD with an atapi (ide) cd-writer. My setup is: >Operating System: FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE >Cdrecord-Version: Cdrecord release 1.8a33 >Hardware : /dev/wd0s1 Primary IDE-Disk > /dev/da0s1 Internal SCSI-Disk on an ahc0 > /dev/acd0 IDE-CDROM > /dev/acd1 ATAPI CD-Writer (HP CD-Writer 7200+) >The relevant parts from dmesg are: >-------------- dmesg output -------------- dmesg output -------------------- >ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 12 on pci0.10.0 >ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs >wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa >wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): >wd0: 6105MB (12504240 sectors), 13232 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S >wdc0: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, intr, dma, iordis >acd0: drive speed 1377KB/sec, 256KB cache >acd0: supported read types: CD-DA >acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels >acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray >acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked >wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa >wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, dma, iordy >acd1: drive speed 344 - 1034KB/sec, 768KB cache >acd1: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA, packet track >acd1: supported write types: CD-R, CD-RW, test write >acd1: Audio: play, 128 volume levels >acd1: Mechanism: ejectable tray >acd1: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked, lock protected >da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 >da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device >da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled >da0: 2063MB (4226725 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 263C) >-------------- dmesg output -------------- dmesg output -------------------- >I also enabled the pass0 device in the kernel config file. >Here the relevant parts: >-------------- relevant parts from kernel config file ---------------------- ># ATAPI devices >options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus >options ATAPI_STATIC #Don't do it as an LKM >device acd0 #IDE CD-ROM ># SCSI Controllers >controller ahc0 # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices ># SCSI peripherals >controller scbus0 # SCSI bus (required) >device da0 # Direct Access (disks) >device sa0 # Sequential Access (tape etc) >device cd0 # CD >device pass0 # Passthrough device (direct SCSI) >pseudo-device vn 2 # mounting files as filesystems vnconfig(8) >-------------- relevant parts from kernel config file ---------------------- >Still, I'm having trouble using cdrecord. AFAIK, cdrecord talks to >ATAPI Drives through some kind of SCSI over IDE and needs some scsi >passthrough or scsi-ide emulator. With my current setup, cdrecord -scanbus >returns: >bsdevil# cdrecord -scanbus >Cdrecord release 1.8a33 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 Jörg Schilling >Using libscg version 'schily-0.1' >scsibus0: > 0,0,0 0) 'IBM ' 'DORS-32160W ' 'WA6A' Disk > 0,1,0 1) * > 0,2,0 2) * > 0,3,0 3) * > 0,4,0 4) * > 0,5,0 5) * > 0,6,0 6) * > 0,7,0 7) * >The CD-Writer was not recognized there. I couldn't figure out >which dev=... to use for the /dev/acd1 cd-writer. >BTW, the writer works very well under Linux with the ide-scsi kernel-module >together with the generic scsi code 'sg'. The drive is recognized by >cdrecord in scsibus1 with the dev=1,0,0 line. The only quirck there was to >make sure, that the ide cd-writer was not grabbed at boot time by the ide >driver. >I'm sorry if this is a FAQ. I couldn't find any relevant information on >ATAPI CD-Writers, Cdrecord and FreeBSD. >Thank you for your help. >-Farid. >-- >Farid Hajji >Broicherdorfstr. 83, D-41564 Kaarst, Germany >Phone: +49-2131-67-555, E-Mail: farid.hajji@ob.kamp.net Jörg EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 schilling@fokus.gmd.de (work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.gmd.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.fokus.gmd.de/pub/unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 5:39: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from support.euronet.nl (support.euronet.nl [194.134.32.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38A437B8DD for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 05:38:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pieterw@support.euronet.nl) Received: (from pieterw@localhost) by support.euronet.nl (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e48CcuR16582 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:38:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 14:38:56 +0200 From: Pieter Westland To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Vinum and dump Message-ID: <20000508143856.A16223@support.euronet.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i X-OS: FreeBSD support.euronet.nl 2.2.8-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE X-URL: http://support.euronet.nl/~pieterw X-Editor: vim X-Quote: Economics is fun! Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Since I upgraded my machine from 3.4-STABLE to 4.0-STABLE, it does not dump my vinum-stripe anymore: root@dustpuppy [/usrbackup> /sbin/dump -0ua -f /usrbackup/backupje /usr DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Mon May 8 14:34:45 2000 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch DUMP: Dumping /dev/vinum/rstripe (/usr) to /usrbackup/backupje DUMP: Cannot open /dev/vinum/rstripe root@dustpuppy [/usrbackup> Mount info: /dev/vinum/stripe on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates, writes: sync 2 async 10928, reads: sync 47551 async 203) Vinum info: drive d1 device /dev/ad0s3f drive d2 device /dev/ad2s2e volume stripe plex name stripe.p0 org striped 512s vol stripe sd name stripe.p0.s0 drive d1 plex stripe.p0 len 2790400s driveoffset 265s plexoffset 0s sd name stripe.p0.s1 drive d2 plex stripe.p0 len 2790400s driveoffset 265s plexoffset 512s I tried to do a dump -0ua -f /usrbackup/backupje /dev/vinum/stripe , but that doesn't work either. Thanks in advance for replying! Pieter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 5:40:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bumper.jellybaby.net (bumper.jellybaby.net [194.159.247.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8E537B5E0 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 05:40:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simond@bumper.jellybaby.net) Received: (from simond@localhost) by bumper.jellybaby.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA33488; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:40:05 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from simond) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 13:40:05 +0100 From: simond@irrelevant.org To: schilling@fokus.gmd.de Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cdrecord, freebsd and atapi cd-writers Message-ID: <20000508134004.A33150@irrelevant.org> References: <200005081233.OAA18951@burner.fokus.gmd.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200005081233.OAA18951@burner.fokus.gmd.de>; from schilling@fokus.gmd.de on Mon, May 08, 2000 at 02:33:25PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 02:33:25PM +0200, schilling@fokus.gmd.de wrote: > FreeBSD does not support ATAPI drives. The drivers are not integrated into > the SCSI kernel subsystem.... > > Integrated ATAPI is on: > > NetBSD, Win32, OS/2, Linux On the other hand AFAIR FreeBSD 4 comes with burncd which is designed to handle ATAPI cd writers. -- Simon Dick simond@irrelevant.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 5:43: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dns.unife.it (dns.unife.it [192.167.219.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4194937B5E0 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 05:43:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuxxxx@student.unife.it) Received: from student.unife.it (dhcp9.ing.unife.it [192.167.215.237]) by dns.unife.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C206C31 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 10:58:29 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <39168117.96CD632D@student.unife.it> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 10:55:52 +0200 From: giogio X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN,zh-TW MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: problem with soundcard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I have build a kernel with ``device pcm0`` line in the config file and install the kernel. After I have reboot it and make ``./MAKEDEV snd0`` in /dev but in /dev/sndstat I find write ``Device not configured``. Can you halp me?-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 5:44: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.ocsny.com (apollo.ocsny.com [204.107.76.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEEBE37B51F; Mon, 8 May 2000 05:43:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikel@ocsny.com) Received: from ocsny.com (thoth.upan.org [204.107.76.16]) by apollo.ocsny.com (8.9.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA68276; Mon, 8 May 2000 08:41:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3916B6A4.7F5A3728@ocsny.com> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 08:44:20 -0400 From: Mikel Organization: Optimized Computer Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,it MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fabio Miranda Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-net@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Request of help! References: <20000508022134.21789.qmail@web125.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------1DAE3D92FF4B71017F0BB8F6" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1DAE3D92FF4B71017F0BB8F6 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------84C0ABF8769A475D786EFF59" --------------84C0ABF8769A475D786EFF59 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have you tried a more simplistic approach to your route statements? from below you gave us... ifconfig eth0 209.88.252.106 209.88.252.106 netmask 255.255.255.248 ifconfig fxp0 209.88.252.113 netmask 255.255.255.248 route add -net 209.88.252.104/29 209.88.252.105 -interface 209.88.252.106 route add -net 209.88.252.112/29 209.88.252.113 -interface 209.88.252.113 route add -net 0.0.0.0 209.88.252.113 Suggest altering to something like...I am assuming that fxp0 is your eterior interface and eth0 is your interior. # section 1 # 0xfffffff8 should be the same as .248 netmask.... #for /etc/rc.conf network_interfaces="eht0 fxp0 lo0" ifconfig_eth0=" inet $IP netmask $MSK" ifconfig_fxp0="inet 209.88.252.105 netmask 0xfffffff8" # section 2 # recommend creating a file called /usr/local/etc/rc.d/vhosts.sh # then put these entries in it... route add -net 0.0.0.0 -interface fxp0 route add -net 209.88.252.104 netmask 0xfffffff8 -interface fxp0 # oh yeah make sure you set the appropriate permissions... #-rwxr-x--x 1 root wheel 1764 May 2 03:57 /usr/local/etc/rc.d/vhost.sh Ok now how to make this work...personally I wouldn't try using my fBSD box to route same mask traffic accross two interfaces...because if you do then you will have to set up route for each host on the interior network...you would find it far easier to recompile the kernel to add ipfw support, and then use the natd/ipfw combo in which case you can use a fictitious ip block like 10.0.0.0 for $IP and 0xff000000 for $MSK, or if you have trouble with class 'A' scopes then try Class a 'B' 192.168.0.0 for $IP and 0xFFFF0000 for $MSK Then it would be a matter of setting up your firewall rules (in /etc/rc.firewall) and turning natd on (in /etc/rc.conf) Fabio Miranda wrote: > Hi, i've been trying to set up my network and it has > been imposible. I have sent many emails and noone has > pointed me in the right way. Please, can anyone help > me? > Problem: > I'm connecting a network to a leased line from my > local company. I have a sever that uses a isa > card(et5025-16 etinc.com) to connect to a dce > (dsu/csu) and from it to the isp. > The isp router is 209.88.252.105 and my IP is > 209.88.252.106(the point to point link), and we > belongs to 209.88.252.114 subnet. > Also, the ISP gave me a subnet: 209.88.252.104/29 and > i want the same server to have 209.88.252.113 and > 209.88.252.114 to 118 are my local machines. > the diagrama: > ISProuter > (209.88.252.105) > - > - > - > - > eth0(209.88.252.106) > FreeBSD > fxp0(209.88.252.113)----->209.88.252.114to118 > machines. > > I want the freebsd machine to route from > 209.88.252.106 interface to 209.88.252.114 and > viceversa, a multihomed server. > > Friends, i have really tried many things and the > answered of my pasts email are kinda confused. > Can anyone tell me something clear? i want to belongs > to FreeBSD comunity! but, docs and all are hard. > > this is what i have done: > > ifconfig eth0 209.88.252.106 209.88.252.106 netmask > 255.255.255.248 > ifconfig fxp0 209.88.252.113 netmask 255.255.255.248 > route add -net 209.88.252.104/29 209.88.252.105 > -interface 209.88.252.106 > route add -net 209.88.252.112/29 209.88.252.113 > -interface 209.88.252.113 > route add -net 0.0.0.0 209.88.252.113 > > 1. What else do i need to make freebsd a router > between the subnet .104 and .112 and make it use the > .113? (pls, write the commands) > 2. Do i need another software? like gated or routed or > natd? > 3. if i dont need any software, what makes "route" a > packages from any of my local machines to the internet > passing by the gatedway (the server)?. > > Thanks alot for any type of help. > > p.s. servers it's a l440gx intel using 3.4-release, > others machines are win98 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message -- Cheers, Mikel +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+ | Optimized Computer Solutions, Inc http://www.ocsny.com | 39 W14th Street, Suite 203 212 727 2100 | New York, NY 10011 +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+ --------------84C0ABF8769A475D786EFF59 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have you tried a more simplistic approach to your route statements?

 from below you gave us...
ifconfig eth0 209.88.252.106 209.88.252.106 netmask
255.255.255.248
ifconfig fxp0 209.88.252.113 netmask 255.255.255.248
route add -net 209.88.252.104/29 209.88.252.105
-interface 209.88.252.106
route add -net 209.88.252.112/29 209.88.252.113
-interface 209.88.252.113
route add -net 0.0.0.0 209.88.252.113

 Suggest altering to something like...I am assuming that fxp0 is your eterior interface and eth0 is your interior.

# section 1
# 0xfffffff8 should be the same as .248 netmask....
#for /etc/rc.conf
network_interfaces="eht0 fxp0 lo0"
ifconfig_eth0=" inet $IP netmask $MSK"
ifconfig_fxp0="inet 209.88.252.105 netmask 0xfffffff8"

# section 2
# recommend creating a file called /usr/local/etc/rc.d/vhosts.sh
# then put these entries in it...
route add -net 0.0.0.0 -interface fxp0
route add -net 209.88.252.104 netmask 0xfffffff8 -interface fxp0

# oh yeah make sure you set the appropriate permissions...
#-rwxr-x--x  1 root  wheel  1764 May  2 03:57 /usr/local/etc/rc.d/vhost.sh

Ok now how to make this work...personally I wouldn't try using my fBSD box to route same mask traffic accross two interfaces...because if you do then you will have to set up route for each host on the interior network...you would find it far easier to recompile the kernel to add ipfw support, and then use the natd/ipfw combo in which case you can use a fictitious ip block like 10.0.0.0 for $IP and 0xff000000 for $MSK, or if you have trouble with class 'A' scopes then try Class a 'B' 192.168.0.0 for $IP and 0xFFFF0000 for $MSK Then it would be a matter of setting up your firewall rules (in /etc/rc.firewall) and turning natd on (in /etc/rc.conf)
 

Fabio Miranda wrote:

Hi, i've been trying to set up my network and it has
been imposible. I have sent many emails and noone has
pointed me in the right way. Please, can anyone help
me?
Problem:
I'm connecting a network to a leased line from my
local company. I have a sever that uses a isa
card(et5025-16 etinc.com) to connect to a dce
(dsu/csu) and from it to the isp.
The isp router is 209.88.252.105 and my IP is
209.88.252.106(the point to point link), and we
belongs to 209.88.252.114 subnet.
Also, the ISP gave me a subnet: 209.88.252.104/29 and
i want the same server to have 209.88.252.113 and
209.88.252.114 to 118 are my local machines.
the diagrama:
    ISProuter
(209.88.252.105)
       -
       -
       -
       -
eth0(209.88.252.106)
     FreeBSD
fxp0(209.88.252.113)----->209.88.252.114to118
machines.

I want the freebsd machine to route from
209.88.252.106 interface to 209.88.252.114 and
viceversa, a multihomed server.

Friends, i have really tried many things and the
answered of my pasts email are kinda confused.
Can anyone tell me something clear? i want to belongs
to FreeBSD comunity! but, docs and all are hard.

this is what i have done:

ifconfig eth0 209.88.252.106 209.88.252.106 netmask
255.255.255.248
ifconfig fxp0 209.88.252.113 netmask 255.255.255.248
route add -net 209.88.252.104/29 209.88.252.105
-interface 209.88.252.106
route add -net 209.88.252.112/29 209.88.252.113
-interface 209.88.252.113
route add -net 0.0.0.0 209.88.252.113

1. What else do i need to make freebsd a router
between the subnet .104 and .112 and make it use the
.113? (pls, write the commands)
2. Do i need another software? like gated or routed or
natd?
3. if i dont need any software, what makes "route" a
packages from any of my local machines to the internet
passing by the gatedway (the server)?.

Thanks alot for any type of help.

p.s. servers it's a l440gx intel using 3.4-release,
others machines are win98

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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 6:41:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail3.mia.bellsouth.net (mail3.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.144.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E65D37B639; Mon, 8 May 2000 06:41:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from almacen@bellsouth.net) Received: from bellsouth.net (host-209-215-29-211.mia.bellsouth.net [209.215.29.211]) by mail3.mia.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id JAA28301; Mon, 8 May 2000 09:36:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39171852.8BFDC4E6@bellsouth.net> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 12:41:06 -0700 From: "O. Nunez de Villavicencio" Organization: The ONVA Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en]C-bls40 (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fabio Miranda Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-net@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD@es.FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Spanish/English translations on rqst. Request of help! References: <20000508022134.21789.qmail@web125.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Estimado Fabio, Si tuvieras dificultad alguna con lo que te plantean -al ayudarte- dejamelo saber. OK? Orlando = = = = Fabio Miranda wrote: > Hi, i've been trying to set up my network and it has > been imposible. I have sent many emails and noone has > pointed me in the right way. Please, can anyone help > me? > Problem: > I'm connecting a network to a leased line from my > local company. I have a sever that uses a isa > card(et5025-16 etinc.com) to connect to a dce > (dsu/csu) and from it to the isp. > The isp router is 209.88.252.105 and my IP is > 209.88.252.106(the point to point link), and we > belongs to 209.88.252.114 subnet. > Also, the ISP gave me a subnet: 209.88.252.104/29 and > i want the same server to have 209.88.252.113 and > 209.88.252.114 to 118 are my local machines. > the diagrama: > ISProuter > (209.88.252.105) > - > - > - > - > eth0(209.88.252.106) > FreeBSD > fxp0(209.88.252.113)----->209.88.252.114to118 > machines. > > I want the freebsd machine to route from > 209.88.252.106 interface to 209.88.252.114 and > viceversa, a multihomed server. > > Friends, i have really tried many things and the > answered of my pasts email are kinda confused. > Can anyone tell me something clear? i want to belongs > to FreeBSD comunity! but, docs and all are hard. > > this is what i have done: > > ifconfig eth0 209.88.252.106 209.88.252.106 netmask > 255.255.255.248 > ifconfig fxp0 209.88.252.113 netmask 255.255.255.248 > route add -net 209.88.252.104/29 209.88.252.105 > -interface 209.88.252.106 > route add -net 209.88.252.112/29 209.88.252.113 > -interface 209.88.252.113 > route add -net 0.0.0.0 209.88.252.113 > > 1. What else do i need to make freebsd a router > between the subnet .104 and .112 and make it use the > .113? (pls, write the commands) > 2. Do i need another software? like gated or routed or > natd? > 3. if i dont need any software, what makes "route" a > packages from any of my local machines to the internet > passing by the gatedway (the server)?. > > Thanks alot for any type of help. > > p.s. servers it's a l440gx intel using 3.4-release, > others machines are win98 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! 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Nunez de Villavicencio" Cc: Fabio Miranda , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-net@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD@es.FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Spanish/English translations on rqst. Request of help! References: <20000508022134.21789.qmail@web125.yahoomail.com> <39171852.8BFDC4E6@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Also see http://translator.go.com I work on it También vea http://translator.go.com Trabajo en él "O. Nunez de Villavicencio" wrote: > > Estimado Fabio, > > Si tuvieras dificultad alguna con lo que te plantean -al ayudarte- > dejamelo saber. OK? > Orlando > = = = = > > Fabio Miranda wrote: > > > Hi, i've been trying to set up my network and it has > > been imposible. I have sent many emails and noone has > > pointed me in the right way. Please, can anyone help > > me? > > Problem: > > I'm connecting a network to a leased line from my > > local company. I have a sever that uses a isa > > card(et5025-16 etinc.com) to connect to a dce > > (dsu/csu) and from it to the isp. > > The isp router is 209.88.252.105 and my IP is > > 209.88.252.106(the point to point link), and we > > belongs to 209.88.252.114 subnet. > > Also, the ISP gave me a subnet: 209.88.252.104/29 and > > i want the same server to have 209.88.252.113 and > > 209.88.252.114 to 118 are my local machines. > > the diagrama: > > ISProuter > > (209.88.252.105) > > - > > - > > - > > - > > eth0(209.88.252.106) > > FreeBSD > > fxp0(209.88.252.113)----->209.88.252.114to118 > > machines. > > > > I want the freebsd machine to route from > > 209.88.252.106 interface to 209.88.252.114 and > > viceversa, a multihomed server. > > > > Friends, i have really tried many things and the > > answered of my pasts email are kinda confused. > > Can anyone tell me something clear? i want to belongs > > to FreeBSD comunity! but, docs and all are hard. > > > > this is what i have done: > > > > ifconfig eth0 209.88.252.106 209.88.252.106 netmask > > 255.255.255.248 > > ifconfig fxp0 209.88.252.113 netmask 255.255.255.248 > > route add -net 209.88.252.104/29 209.88.252.105 > > -interface 209.88.252.106 > > route add -net 209.88.252.112/29 209.88.252.113 > > -interface 209.88.252.113 > > route add -net 0.0.0.0 209.88.252.113 > > > > 1. What else do i need to make freebsd a router > > between the subnet .104 and .112 and make it use the > > .113? (pls, write the commands) > > 2. Do i need another software? like gated or routed or > > natd? > > 3. if i dont need any software, what makes "route" a > > packages from any of my local machines to the internet > > passing by the gatedway (the server)?. > > > > Thanks alot for any type of help. > > > > p.s. servers it's a l440gx intel using 3.4-release, > > others machines are win98 > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Craig Shaver, Productivity Group POB 60458 Sunnyvale, CA 94088 (650)390-0654 http://www.progroup.com/ mailto:craig@progroup.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 7:33:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from defiant.quansoo.com (adsl-216-158-26-30.cust.oldcity.dca.net [216.158.26.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0601137B7C5 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 07:33:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cgriffiths@quansoo.com) Received: from localhost (cgriffiths@localhost) by defiant.quansoo.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02429; Mon, 8 May 2000 10:32:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cgriffiths@quansoo.com) X-Authentication-Warning: defiant.quansoo.com: cgriffiths owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 10:32:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher T. Griffiths" To: Casey Duncan Cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: RE: Upgrade from 3.4 to 4.0 with ida driver In-Reply-To: <385521695.957794395244.JavaMail.root@web443-mc.mail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Actually they backported from current the working driver support for the idad disks. If you cvsup now everything should work perfectly. I have upgraded two of my compaq systems already. I have included -questions in this so anyone wondering the status will know. Chris On Mon, 8 May 2000, Casey Duncan wrote: > I'm afraid I haven't had time yet to get 4.0 up and running. You are not alone in your plight, many others I have conversed with are experiencing the same thing. > > When I know more, I will keep you informed. Likewise if you discover anything, let me know. > > Sorry I wasn't able to be of more help. > > -Casey Duncan > > ------Original Message------ > From: "Christopher T. Griffiths" > To: caseman@mad.scientist.com > Sent: May 3, 2000 3:53:43 PM GMT > Subject: Upgrade from 3.4 to 4.0 with ida driver > > > Hello, > > I am having the following problem below and saw the article at daemonnews > that you wrote on this. > > I was wondering if you have dabbled in 4.0 yet with the compaq systems? > > If so maybe you could give me some help on my problem > > Thanks > > Chris > > --- > Christopher T. Griffiths > Engineering Department > Quansoo Group Inc. > cgriffiths@quansoo.com > > I have been working for a good part of the day trying to get my compaq > system upgraded from 3.4 -stable to 4.0 -stable. > > I am using the following hardware: > > Compaq Proliant 1850R Server > Smart Array 3200 Controller > 1 Raid 1 array > > I have been running 3.4 for several months on this system with zero > problems. > > I have followed all of the Instructions in the Updating file and setup a > custom kernel configured to use the ata and ida drivers (attached). > > There is only one problem: > > I am getting the following on bootup when the kernel boots and tries to > change to the root device I get the following: > > ta0-slave: ata_command: timeout waiting for intr > ata0-slave: identify failed > acd0: CDROM at ata0-master using PIO4 > no devsw (majdev=0 bootdev=0xa0200000) > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/idad0a > no such device 'idad' > setrootbyname failed > ffs_mountroot: can't find rootvp > Root mount failed: 6 > > Manual root filesystem specification: > : Mount using filesystem > eg. ufs:/dev/da0s1a > ? List valid disk boot devices > Abort manual input > > mountroot> ufs:/dev/id0a / > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/id0a / > > My /etc/fstab contains the following: > > # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump > Pass# > /dev/idad0b none swap sw 0 0 > /dev/idad0a / ufs rw 1 1 > /dev/idad0f /usr ufs rw 2 2 > /dev/idad0e /var ufs rw 2 2 > proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 > > > I have tried rebuilding the bootloader but no luck. > > It seems that when I imput /dev/id0a into mountroot prompt it then mounts > root and changes over to /dev/idad0a which is in my fstab. > > The funny thing is that there is no /dev/id0a in /dev and it will not > allow me to build it either. > > I also posted a much more crazy post earlier but have since fixed most of > the problems except this one. > > Any help would be appreciated. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 7:49:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F5937B6AB; Mon, 8 May 2000 07:49:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA52839; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:39:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 14:39:15 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: hm@hcs.de, committers@FreeBSD.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Summarising the lists (was Re: Poll tally so far:) Message-ID: <20000508143914.A48401@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Reply-To: nik@freebsd.org References: <20000508071950.4815F4813@hcswork.hcs.de> <11341.957778655@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <11341.957778655@localhost>; from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com on Mon, May 08, 2000 at 02:37:35AM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ I'm cc'ing this to -questions to get a wider audience for a point further down. If you see this on -questions and want to get involved, please reply directly to nik@freebsd.org to register an interest. I've set reply-to appropriately. Of course, if you're reading this on -committers then you probably want to ignore my reply-to, and just send it back to the list. ] [ And a plea to the postmaster -- can the crossposting limits be disabled for @freebsd.org addresses, on the assumption that on the rare cases when we want to send something to more than three lists we have weighed up the pros and cons, and decided it is on topic for them? I'd have liked to send most of this message to pretty much all the lists. ] On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 02:37:35AM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Have a "committer of the month" page on www.freebsd.org or whatever else, > > let code only in the tree (= get a reward) in case there is sufficient > > documentation available (= you have to do something first) or, or, or. > > There is much one could do if one wants to. > > Not a bad idea at all, do you think someone on the docs team (since > their talents run more in the direction of crafting web page material) > would be up for volunteering to do this? It's obviously going to take > a little work to create and maintain such incentives. "Committer of the month"? Are you cutting your crack with talcum powder again? And while I'd be all for removing someone's commit bit if they commit stuff without associated documentation, we all know that that's not going to happen any time soon. However (and this is where everyone who's reading this on -questions comes in) I'd be all for someone reading -hackers or -current, or -arch (or any of the other lists for that matter) and producing a weekly edited digest of the discussions. A web search for "kernel traffic" will show up what someone over on the Linux kernel development list did, and it's a good idea. All we need is someone with the spare time to actually do it. Note that you don't need to be a kernel hacker to do this. For that matter, you don't need to be the world's best writer. All you need to do is spend (maybe) an hour a week summarising discussions on a mailing list. For example, glancing over at the -stable list this week, you might start with: Mark Powell kicked off a long discussion about FreeBSD's RAID support, now that the DPT SmartRaid IV controllers are obsolete. He asked "What's the best bet for hardware RAID under FreeBSD?", and thought the AMI controllers were a good place to start. Eighty+ replies later (most of which dealt with the minutae of firmware), the Mylex controller emerged as a narrow favourite, largely due to bugs in the AMI driver which aren't going to be fixed for another month or so. Brad Knowles mentioned his figures that showed software RAID (Vinum, plus a bunch of normal SCSI controllers and disks) beating the pants of hardware RAID. Of course, that still depends on your application mix, how configurable you want things to be, and what level of reliability you want. [xxx] bought up the issue of sizing the root partition, particularly when you want to get crash dumps from kernels with debugging symbols. A variety of opinions were offered, but. . . Get the gist? You'd probably need to include links to the original messages in the mail archive, and to anything else that might be useful in context (like, say, the AMI and Mylex websites in the example above), but that's about it. If you're looking for an easy way to contribute to FreeBSD, that's it. Do this and you will 1. See it reposted across a few mailing lists. 2. See it reposted to the newsgroup. 3. See it included, and linked to, on the web site. 4. See it mentioned in the Slashdot BSD section. 5. See it mentioned in Daily DaemonNews. You can't buy that sort of fame :-) Do it consistently (say, 4 times over a 1 month period) and I'll personally be banging on -core's door (or whatever we have by then) to get you commit access so you can maintain the web page side of things yourself. Sound fair? If this is the sort of thing you think you can do, drop me a line, including the mailing list(s) you want to monitor. I'll co-ordinate things so that we don't end up with three different people all writing a summary of one mailing list, and then we'll see where we go from there. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 7:50:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from elcb.co.za (ns1.elcb.co.za [196.26.96.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B06237B6AB for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 07:50:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvincent@elcb.co.za) Received: from marius.elcb.co.za ([196.11.122.217] helo=MVincent) by elcb.co.za with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12oorv-000G5j-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 08 May 2000 16:50:47 +0200 From: "Marius Vincent" To: "freeBSD-Questions" Subject: DNS Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 16:49:05 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01BFB90D.521CDD40" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BFB90D.521CDD40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Can anyone tell me how a primary and a secondary dns server for the same domain, exchange entries, or don't hey? For example, if I have a primary dns with the entry foo.bar.com pointing to 111.111.111.111 and say a secondary DNS server for that domain without that record. If i power off the primary DNS server all queries for that domain should go to the secondary,but if foo.bar.com is not in the secondary - it will not point there?? right?? or is there somehting i am missing? Or do you have to update the primary along with the secondary everytime you want a record added for redundancy? Thanx Marius Vincent Technical ELCB Information Services ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BFB90D.521CDD40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BFB90D.521CDD40-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 7:51:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from plains.NoDak.edu (plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACDB537B53E for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 07:51:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.NoDak.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA27130; Mon, 8 May 2000 09:51:15 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 09:51:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <200005081451.JAA27130@plains.NoDak.edu> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, migm@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: Efficient 3060 drivers Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > The deal is that the > ADSL modem that they gave me is an Efficient Networks, Inc. "SpeadStream > 3060". Is there anyone developing drivers for FreeBSD to support this > modem? Thanks. you can check the freebsd-atm mail archives. The last word is that there is no driver for the Efficient 3060. There are some developers that have documentation from Efficient, but they lack the information and microcode for the DSL chipset. --mark tinguely To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 8:10:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.utexas.edu (wb3-a.mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 768CC37B535 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 08:10:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oscars@mail.utexas.edu) Received: (qmail 26992 invoked by uid 0); 8 May 2000 15:10:44 -0000 Received: from chepe.cc.utexas.edu (HELO chepe) (128.83.135.25) by umbs-smtp-3 with SMTP; 8 May 2000 15:10:44 -0000 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000508095711.00a331c0@mail.utexas.edu> X-Sender: oscars@mail.utexas.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 10:09:36 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Oscar Ricardo Silva Subject: 4.0: ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting ?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This weekend, my 4.0 machine died and I was not able to access it remotely. When I came in to work, I found the following message on the console: amanda /kernel: ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting amanda /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done and the system was completely frozen. I didn't find anything noted in /var/log/messages and so reset the computer. After rebooting the machine, I was working on it and I received the following message: May 8 09:54:21 amanda /kernel: ad0: WRITE command timeout - resetting May 8 09:54:22 amanda /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Surprisingly enough, the system continues to work and I'm still able to access it remotely. The above message WAS noted in /var/log/messages this time. I installed 4.0 this past weekend and successfully ran cvsupit and then make world. I have the system disk on the motherboard IDE controller 1 and then I have an IBM 32GB IBM-DPTA-373420, drive hanging off of a Promise ATA/66 PCI controller. There are two other PCI cards, a 3COM 3C905 and an Adaptec AHA2940U2W with an Overland Data DLT Autoloader connected to it. I did find the following the "Current Problem Reports": o [2000/03/24] kern/17592 sos ata READ/WRITE command timeouts and have found two other messages in the FreeBSD mailing list of others having the same problem but no solution so far. Oscar "Don't believe the hype" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 8:14:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7FE37B65B for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 08:14:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12opDT-000MgZ-00; Mon, 08 May 2000 16:13:03 +0100 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.12 #7) id 12opDT-000Klq-00; Mon, 08 May 2000 16:13:03 +0100 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 16:13:02 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Arun Sharma Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: setuid for interpreted languages ? Message-ID: <20000508161302.F79359@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <20000507230115.A61438@sharmas.dhs.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000507230115.A61438@sharmas.dhs.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Arun Sharma wrote: > How do I make a python script, a setuid program in FreeBSD ? I have a > py-kde based python script that needs to be setuid to read the temperature > sensors on my ABit BP6. > > # chmod 4755 khm.py > > doesn't seem to do it. Well, perl has "suidperl", maybe Python has something similar. Otherwise you could make a small setuid wrapper around your script. It only needs to be as simple as: #include extern char **environ; int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { argv[0] = "/path/to/khm.py"; execve(argv[0], argv, environ); return (1); /* shouldn't get here */ } Just compile that, make it setuid (root, presumably) and it should work. I'll assume you already know the potential dangers of setuid programs. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@scientia.demon.co.uk / PGP: 0x99392F7D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 8:18:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rapidnet.com (rapidnet.com [205.164.216.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B324D37B65B; Mon, 8 May 2000 08:18:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@rapidnet.com) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by rapidnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA73282; Mon, 8 May 2000 09:18:09 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 09:18:09 -0600 (MDT) From: Nick Rogness To: Mikel Cc: Fabio Miranda , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-net@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Request of help! In-Reply-To: <3916B6A4.7F5A3728@ocsny.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 8 May 2000, Mikel wrote: > > Fabio Miranda wrote: > > > Hi, i've been trying to set up my network and it has > > been imposible. I have sent many emails and noone has > > pointed me in the right way. Please, can anyone help > > me? > > Problem: > > I'm connecting a network to a leased line from my > > local company. I have a sever that uses a isa > > card(et5025-16 etinc.com) to connect to a dce > > (dsu/csu) and from it to the isp. > > The isp router is 209.88.252.105 and my IP is > > 209.88.252.106(the point to point link), and we > > belongs to 209.88.252.114 subnet. > > Also, the ISP gave me a subnet: 209.88.252.104/29 and > > i want the same server to have 209.88.252.113 and > > 209.88.252.114 to 118 are my local machines. > > the diagrama: 209.88.252.104/29 is not an even subnet. Verify with your ISP. read below. Probably 209.88.252.104/30. Either that or you are stating it wrong. > > ISProuter > > (209.88.252.105) > > - > > - > > - > > - > > eth0(209.88.252.106) > > FreeBSD > > fxp0(209.88.252.113)----->209.88.252.114to118 > > machines. I can't understand what you are trying to say. SO I am following your diagram completely. Give netblocks adn a little more detail. > > > > I want the freebsd machine to route from > > 209.88.252.106 interface to 209.88.252.114 and > > viceversa, a multihomed server. > > This happens automatically if ip_forwarding is on: GATEWAY_ENABLE="YES" > > Friends, i have really tried many things and the > > answered of my pasts email are kinda confused. > > Can anyone tell me something clear? i want to belongs > > to FreeBSD comunity! but, docs and all are hard. > > I think you and your ISP are confused on the subnetting end. You should verify your settings. THis is really not that hard. > > this is what i have done: > > > > ifconfig eth0 209.88.252.106 209.88.252.106 netmask > > 255.255.255.248 > > ifconfig fxp0 209.88.252.113 netmask 255.255.255.248 OK. > > route add -net 209.88.252.104/29 209.88.252.105 > > -interface 209.88.252.106 Shouldn't need this statement .104/29 is directly connected interface. > > route add -net 209.88.252.112/29 209.88.252.113 > > -interface 209.88.252.113 This satement is wrong. 209.88.252.112 is not a network boundary for a /29 CIDR. Your networks are .0/29 and .8/29. WHat are you trying to do here? 209.88.252.112/29 contains: 209.88.252.108 --> 209.88.252.115 > > route add -net 0.0.0.0 209.88.252.113 Why is your default route going to .113? SHouldn't it be 209.88.252.105, the ISP? > > > > 1. What else do i need to make freebsd a router > > between the subnet .104 and .112 and make it use the > > .113? (pls, write the commands) Look at your /etc/rc.conf file. You should see a couple of lines: GATEWAY_ENABLE="YES" > > 2. Do i need another software? like gated or routed or > > natd? Not neccessary unless you want to exchange routes between machines. Your setup is very simple. Static routes should not be neccessary (Except your default gateway) and as long asip forwarding is on (GATEWAY_ENABLE) it should work. Also, the ISP should be holding the static routes for the following net, within their routers, or you will have to run a Dynamic Routing package like gated, Eitherway, make sure the ISP can get to your .112/29 network: route add -net 209.88.252.112/29 209.88.252.6/32 Nick Rogness - Speak softly and carry a Gigabit switch. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 8:21: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from claire.impactnet.com (excelsior.impactnet.com [208.232.225.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17FF237BAD6 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 08:21:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from elijah@impactnet.com) Received: from adj (ip62.impactnet.com [208.232.225.62]) by claire.impactnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA13284 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 23:31:56 +0800 Message-ID: <000801bfb902$4e94a1e0$3ee1e8d0@adj> From: "Arman dJ" To: Subject: PowerQuest's Boot Magic Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 23:30:11 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFB945.5ADA4840" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFB945.5ADA4840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A pleasant day to all of you.=20 I downloaded the iso-image of FreeBSD and burned in on a CD. I also = browse the installation menu of it. I did try to install but I had some difficulty on the first try. = Anyway, I'm trying to install it on my second HD, so I don't have any = problem reformatting it in case I encounter some problem. But my question really is, can I use Boot Magic of PowerQuest for the = multi boot system? Or do you have other suggestion? Thank you and wish me good luck in my installation. AdJ ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFB945.5ADA4840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I downloaded the iso-image of FreeBSD = and burned in=20 on a CD.  I also browse the installation menu of it.
 
I did try to install but I had some = difficulty on=20 the first try.  Anyway, I'm trying to install it on my second HD, = so I=20 don't have any problem reformatting it in case I encounter some=20 problem.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFB945.5ADA4840-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 8:22:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sullivan.realtime.net (sullivan.realtime.net [205.238.128.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD6A37B8C0 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 08:22:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brucegb@sullivan.realtime.net) Received: (from brucegb@localhost) by sullivan.realtime.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA31299; Mon, 8 May 2000 10:22:11 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brucegb) From: Bruce Burden Message-Id: <200005081522.KAA31299@sullivan.realtime.net> Subject: Re: 3Com OfficeConnect PCMCIA card and FreeBSD 4.0 In-Reply-To: <391690DC.D28018C0@cequrux.com> from Graham Wheeler at "May 8, 2000 12:03:08 pm" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 10:22:11 -0500 (CDT) Cc: 391690DC.D28018C0@cequrux.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I have just bought one of these cards (model 3CCH572BT) and am having > Hmmm. The latest pccard.conf lists: # 3Com OfficeConnect 3CXSH572BT card "3Com" "OfficeConnect 572B" config 0x1 "ep0" ? 0x1 insert logger -t pccard:$device -s 3Com 3CXSH572BT inserted insert /etc/pccard_ether $device remove logger -t pccard:$device -s 3Com 3CXSH572BT removed remove /sbin/ifconfig $device delete which is slightly different from what you list. Typo? Or a different model? > > kernel config, and a "device ep" line as well (which seems to be what > Is that all you have, "device ep"? That seems to be critical to making PCMCIA cards work. When you say it isn't being detected, what does dmesg show when the machine boots? Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 8:27:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from aragorn.neomedia.it (aragorn.neomedia.it [195.103.207.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56D037BA74 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 08:27:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bartequi@neomedia.it) Received: from localhost (ppp1-pa5.neomedia.it [195.103.207.113]) by aragorn.neomedia.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA29848 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 17:27:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Salvo Bartolotta Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 16:29:11 GMT Message-ID: <20000508.16291100@mis.configured.host> Subject: WordPerfect far from being perfect: SOLVED To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: SuperCalifragilis X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear FreBSD'ers, The initial delay on the part of WordPerfect in showing such windows=20 as "Open" or "Save" was caused by ... portmap_enable=3D"NO" in my=20 /etc/rc.conf (!). I wish to thank all the responders, and in particular Greg Lehey, who=20 set me thinking in the right direction. While playing with WP8 as a user, I had a look at the console messages=20 ... et voila: "log in vain" caught the failed connections to port 111.=20 Needless to say, WP8 is now working like charm. BTW, I do have StarOffice 5.1a and other editors, browsers, etc.=20 installed on my system. I am becoming (or am I already?) a port addict := -) Best regards, Salvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 8:37:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from server1.flyinghosting.com (www.flyhost.com [216.65.103.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5AD37B93B for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 08:37:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@hostonfly.com) Received: from 213.221.48.24 ([213.221.48.24]) by server1.flyinghosting.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA85749 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 16:36:39 GMT Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 19:36:38 +0400 From: Dmitry Koltsov X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.38e) S/N A1D26E39 / Educational Reply-To: Dmitry Koltsov X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <16817.000508@hostonfly.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: vm_fault Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG May 7 17:00:05 serverX /kernel: vm_fault: pager read error, pid 58412 and after that process goes to "D" state and can not be killed, only system reset (reboot wasn't successfull)... what is that? Best regards, Dmitry Koltsov Host On Fly S.A. mailto:root@hostonfly.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 8:38:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu (larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu [128.84.247.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3BA37B92E for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 08:38:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mkc@larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu) Received: from larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu (mkc@localhost) by larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA68497; Mon, 8 May 2000 11:37:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mkc@larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu) Message-Id: <200005081537.LAA68497@larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu> To: "Marius Vincent" Cc: "freeBSD-Questions" Subject: Re: DNS In-Reply-To: Message from "Marius Vincent" of "Mon, 08 May 2000 16:49:05 +0200." Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 11:37:04 -0400 From: Mitch Collinsworth Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Can anyone tell me how a primary and a secondary dns server for the same >domain, exchange entries, or don't hey? The secondary config includes the location of the primary server. The secondary then requests a copy of the zone file from the primary. Every so often (as configured with refresh parameter in the SOA record) the secondary will request the SOA record from the primary and check to see if the serial number has changed. If primary's serial number is greater than secondary's serial number, secondary requests a new zone file transfer from primary. In addition to this, modern DNS servers will send a notify command from the primary to authoritative secondaries when a change is made on the primary. This allows secondaries to request updated info immediately rather that waiting until next refresh period. >For example, if I have a primary dns with the entry foo.bar.com pointing to >111.111.111.111 >and say a secondary DNS server for that domain without that record. >If i power off the primary DNS server all queries for that domain should go >to the secondary,but if foo.bar.com is not in the secondary - it will not >point there?? right?? or is there somehting i am missing? If secondary is configured with primary's IP address in the boot file, secondary will have the zone info and be able to resolve queries. >Or do you have to update the primary along with the secondary everytime you >want a record added for redundancy? If both systems have a modern DNS server, this will happen automatically via the notify mechanism. >Thanx > >Marius Vincent >Technical >ELCB Information Services If running DNS is part of your job, you should REALLY REALLY REALLY get, read, and fully comprehend the contents of "DNS and BIND" 3rd edition by Albitz and Liu, published by O'Reilly. There are lots and lots of ways you can shoot yourself in the foot if you try to be a DNS guy without reading this book. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 8:57:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f28.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 600F337B713 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 08:57:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adam_hefetz@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 1246 invoked by uid 0); 8 May 2000 15:57:51 -0000 Message-ID: <20000508155751.1245.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 62.0.165.147 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 08 May 2000 08:57:50 PDT X-Originating-IP: [62.0.165.147] From: "Adam Hefetz" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: /var Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 15:57:50 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi everyone, I tried to move the /var directory like it says in the file book.txt with the following commands: # mkdir /usr/var # cd /var # tar cf - . | (cd /usr/var; tar xf - ) # cd / # rm -rf /var # ln -s /usr/var /var the problem is that whem I type the rm -rf /var command it says: rm: /var: Device busy I hope you can help me, thanks, Adam ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 9: 4:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from palrel3.hp.com (palrel3.hp.com [156.153.255.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 786DA37B96B for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 09:04:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from charles_dinkey@non.hp.com) Received: from xboibrg2.boi.hp.com (xboibrg2.boi.hp.com [15.56.8.172]) by palrel3.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D1D5C4 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 09:04:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by xboibrg2.boi.hp.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 8 May 2000 10:03:58 -0600 Message-ID: From: "DINKEY,GENE (Non-HP-Loveland,ex1)" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: /var Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 10:03:56 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I belive that if your pwd is /var that rm -rf /var will not work. Try cd /;rm -rf /var and see if that works. Also if /var is a seperate file system (I usually slice out /var) then you will want to unmount it first and remove it's entry from /etc/fstab. Hope this helps... Gene -----Original Message----- From: Adam Hefetz [mailto:adam_hefetz@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 9:58 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: /var Hi everyone, I tried to move the /var directory like it says in the file book.txt with the following commands: # mkdir /usr/var # cd /var # tar cf - . | (cd /usr/var; tar xf - ) # cd / # rm -rf /var # ln -s /usr/var /var the problem is that whem I type the rm -rf /var command it says: rm: /var: Device busy I hope you can help me, thanks, Adam ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 9: 8:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.30.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6A037B9AC for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 09:08:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA54334 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 8 May 2000 18:08:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from kuku) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 18:08:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Christoph Kukulies Message-Id: <200005081608.SAA54334@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 4.0 install quirk Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I installed from 4.0 floppies (built from the 4.0 RELEASE CD) and have /,swap,/var on ada0, /usr ada1. Forgot to insert the install CD in the first place (because it was inserted into another computer - typical human failure) and started over to chose media once again. After that I committed and the system stayed foreven with a blue screen, All filesystem information written successfully. (cursor in the bottom right corner). No more reaction - system remains inactive, have to press the reset button. (HW: ASUS PCI/P54SP4, P90, 64M, IDE-Master - IDE Slave, CDROM at second controller). -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 9:18:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.telnet.co.jp (dummy.web6122-unet.ocn.ne.jp [210.164.151.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 761DE37B9DA for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 09:18:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from deai3@press.co.jp) Received: (qmail 17386 invoked from network); 8 May 2000 14:50:13 -0000 Received: from dummy.web6122-unet.ocn.ne.jp (HELO mail.telnet.co.jp) (root@210.164.151.162) by dummy.web6122-unet.ocn.ne.jp with SMTP; 8 May 2000 14:50:13 -0000 From: deai3@press.co.jp To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Deai press Message-Id: <20000508161817.761DE37B9DA@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 09:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG $B!!!!!!!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A(B $B!!!!!!!!F|K\0l$N=P2q$$%5%$%H$rC5$9%a!<%k?7J9$G$9(B $B!!!!!!!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A!A(B $B:#2s$O!"=w@-$,4IM}$7$F$$$k#3%5%$%H$r$4>R2p$$$?$7$^$9!#(B $B$=$l$>$l$N9-JsC4EvAw$/$@$5$$!#(B deaiinfo@press.co.jp ----------------------------------------------------------- $B(.(/(B $B(-(B $B(-!Z#1![(B $B(-!!!!$3$s$K$A$O!#=w@-MQ#W#e#b%^%,%8%s$N:dK\$5$($j$G$9!#(B $B(-!!!!=P2q$$%5%$%H(B<<>>$B$K$D$$$F$G$9!#(B $B(-!!!!;K>e=i!"%A%c%C%H$+$i%H!<%/$,$G$-$k?7%7%9%F%`!*(B $B(-(.(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(/(B $B(-!!=w@-MQ#W#e#b%^%,%8%s$,=w@-FI$N=P2q$$%5%$%H$H$OA4$/0c$$$^$9!*(B $B(-!!Kh7n#2#0#0K|1_AjEv$N%W%l%<%s%HIU$-!*(B $B(-(1(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(0(B $B(-!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(Bhttp://www.aimail.co.jp $B(-(B $B(-(,(,!D!D!E!&%M%C%H;K>e=i!*%A%c%C%H$+$i%H!<%/$,$G$-$^$9(B $B(-(Baimail$B$G$O!"%m%0%$%sCf$N%a%s%P!<$,>o$KI=<($5$l$F$$$^$9$N$G(B $B(-#2%7%g%C%H%A%c%C%H!J%Q%=%3%s!K$d#2%7%g%C%H%H!<%/!JEEOC!K$,!"(B $B(-?=$79~$s$G$9$0$K$G$-$k$h$&$K$J$C$F$$$^$9!#(B $B(-(B $B(-EEOC$GAjl$G$-$^$9!#(B $B(-?tB?$/$N5!G=$rMQ0U$7$F$"$J$?$N=P2q$$$r%5%]!<%H$$$?$7$^$9!#(B $B(-$<$R0lEY!"$=$NB?:L$J5!G=$K6C$$$F$/$@$5$$!*!*!*(B $B(-(B $B(1(0(B $B!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v(B $B(.(/(B $B(-(B $B(-!Z#2![(B $B(-!!!!$O$8$a$^$7$F!#!H%a%kM'C5$=!*!I#A#Q#C$N(BAYA$B$G$9!#(B $B(-!!!!=P2q$$7G<(HD(B<<>>$B$r!"(B $B(-!!!!#2#0#0#0G/#47n$K%*!<%W%s$7$?$P$+$j$G$9!*(B $B(-(B $B(-(.(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(,(/(B $B(-!!!!!!!!=w@-4IM}CO6h!?4XElCO6h$N#2$D$r8BDj!#(B $B(-%a!<%kM'C#$rC5$7$F$k?M$O!"$<$R=q$-9~$_$KMh$F$/$@$5$$!*!*!*(B $B(-$=$7$F!"%a!<%kM'C#$+$i$N!"%9%F%C%W!&%"%C%W$O:#$d>o<1!*(B $B(-(B $B(1(0(B $B!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v!v(B $B(.(/(B $B(-(B $B(-!Z#3![(B $B(-!!!!$"$j$,$H$&$4$6$$$^$9!#(BFORTUNE$B$G$9!#(B $B(-!!!!8D?M$N%5%$%H$J$N$K$b$+$+$o$i$:!"e$2$F$/$@$5$C$F(B $B(-!!!!46IU$1$^$7$?!#(B $B(-KhF|$NCB@82V$H$=$N2V8@MU$b(BCALENDAR$B$K$N$;$F$^$9!#$<$RM7$S$KMh$F$/$@$5$$!*(B $B(-(B $B(1(0(B $B:G8e$^$G$*FI$_$$$?$@$$$F$"$j$,$H$&$4$6$$$^$7$?(B To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 9:21: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f217.hotmail.com [216.32.181.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 769B137B977 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 09:21:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brooksmato@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 48094 invoked by uid 0); 8 May 2000 16:20:59 -0000 Message-ID: <20000508162059.48093.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.245.172.58 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 08 May 2000 09:20:59 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.245.172.58] From: "brooks mato" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Xwindows Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 09:20:59 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I recently installed fBSD 3.1 for the first time and can't get Xwindows to come up. After entering StartX or Xinit, I get this error message: execve failed for/usr/x11r6/bin/x (errno 2) then: -x11 transsocketunixconnect: can't connect: erno = 2 How do I launch Xwindows smoothly? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 9:28:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailf.telia.com (mailf.telia.com [194.22.194.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D833737B949 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 09:28:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from james.wilde@telia.com) Received: from ents02 (t2o90p109.telia.com [195.67.216.229]) by mailf.telia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA05001 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 18:28:42 +0200 (CEST) From: "James A Wilde" To: Subject: RE: spam? Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 18:29:01 +0200 Message-ID: <005501bfb8e5$a66bfde0$8c0aa8c0@hk.tbv.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-OlkEid: 3D448522B8AF49DCAE24D411B79D00104B6A033D Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm hopping on this thread since I've been getting a lot of spam recently from everybody_and_his_brother@earthnet.com and some at least of it has been associated with FreeBSD in the message headers - unfortunately I don't have one just at the moment. This was why I queried the subscription message from someone calling themselves opensource@earthnet.com just before the weekend. mvh/regards James > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Scott > Sent: den 8 maj 2000 08:46 > To: Giorgos Keramidas > Cc: sdodson; questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: spam? > > > > > Most certainly. I haven't looked at them too closely. All i noticed was > that freebsd.org was listed in the headers, and this is the only way i'm > associated with freebsd through e-mail. > > -scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 9:34:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from home.offwhite.net (home.offwhite.net [156.46.35.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A3D37BB97 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 09:34:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brennan@offwhite.net) Received: from localhost (brennan@localhost) by home.offwhite.net (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA80678; Mon, 8 May 2000 11:33:43 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 11:33:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Brennan W Stehling To: brooks mato Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Xwindows In-Reply-To: <20000508162059.48093.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Do you have it configured? You did not mention that. If not, use /stand/sysinstall to configure X Windows. Be sure you know your video card and monitor specs as FreeBSD does not autodetect them. Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com Microsoft: Will you get a macro virus today? On Mon, 8 May 2000, brooks mato wrote: > I recently installed fBSD 3.1 for the first time and can't get Xwindows to > come up. After entering StartX or Xinit, I get this error message: > execve failed for/usr/x11r6/bin/x (errno 2) then: > -x11 transsocketunixconnect: can't connect: erno = 2 > > How do I launch Xwindows smoothly? > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 9:42:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail3.hushmail.com (mail3.hushmail.com [216.18.8.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B56937B9ED for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 09:42:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cooldoug@hushmail.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by mail3.hushmail.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA02539; Mon, 8 May 2000 09:42:52 -0700 From: cooldoug@hushmail.com Message-Id: <200005081642.JAA02539@mail3.hushmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 09:37:07 -0800 (PDT) Subject: bind/ipfw/natd? To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Morinin'! I'm setting up a domain using freebsd 2.2.7 (don't worry, I'm ordering 4.1 when its avail) as my firewall, router, and dns server. Well, I'm attempting to. I'm only doing this for my own knowlege benefit, this isn't some critical thing that I must have done yesterday. But for a first timer, it is daunting. I'm wondering if I'm doing too much, does it make sense to have all this going on box? I know I need the router/fw/natd bit, I do have a lan that want to be able to reach the net, but adding nameing services to this same box, my question is I wonder if it wouldn't be a little more practical to put the name service on another box behind my firewall machine? I understand bind is very difficult to set up, and indeed my first attempt over the weekend seems to have cut the machine off from both its nic cards. (I'll sort that out next weekend though). I also understand I can actually farm out my dns service to a third party. I wonder if that might not be the way to go. I think I can handle the fw/natd stuff myself, I just wonder if adding dns to this is more than I can deal with. IMPORTANT NOTICE: If you are not using HushMail, this message could have been read easily by the many people who have access to your open personal email messages. Get your FREE, totally secure email address at http://www.hushmail.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 9:45:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f48.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B0B037B7CD for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 09:45:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shadyshay@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 90640 invoked by uid 0); 8 May 2000 16:45:15 -0000 Message-ID: <20000508164515.90639.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.96.41.2 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 08 May 2000 09:45:15 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.96.41.2] From: "shannon stees" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: researching FreeBSD Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 11:45:15 CDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Forgive me for being uninformed, but I'm researching FreeBSD and I have a question that I have not found a specific answer for through searching the net. If you could be of assistance, I would greatly appreciate it. What is the language in which FreeBSD is written? my email is: shadyshay@hotmail.com Thank you ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 9:48:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from home.offwhite.net (home.offwhite.net [156.46.35.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9823937B7CD for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 09:48:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brennan@offwhite.net) Received: from localhost (brennan@localhost) by home.offwhite.net (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA80744; Mon, 8 May 2000 11:48:13 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 11:48:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Brennan W Stehling To: James A Wilde Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: spam? In-Reply-To: <005501bfb8e5$a66bfde0$8c0aa8c0@hk.tbv.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To stop this spam, set up sendmail with the RBL rules. That will block a good portion of this spam. I have not seen any so far. The more people use the spam blocking systems the harder it will be for spammers. And when a legit mail server get blocked for relaying spam, they are forced to configure their mail server correctly. There are steps you can take, or have your sys admin take, to block this spam. After it is taken care of you no longer have to deal with it. Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com Microsoft: Will you get a macro virus today? On Mon, 8 May 2000, James A Wilde wrote: > I'm hopping on this thread since I've been getting a lot of spam recently > from everybody_and_his_brother@earthnet.com and some at least of it has been > associated with FreeBSD in the message headers - unfortunately I don't have > one just at the moment. > > This was why I queried the subscription message from someone calling > themselves opensource@earthnet.com just before the weekend. > > mvh/regards > > James > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Scott > > Sent: den 8 maj 2000 08:46 > > To: Giorgos Keramidas > > Cc: sdodson; questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: spam? > > > > > > > > > > Most certainly. I haven't looked at them too closely. All i noticed was > > that freebsd.org was listed in the headers, and this is the only way i'm > > associated with freebsd through e-mail. > > > > -scott > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 10: 7:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A7F537B9ED; Mon, 8 May 2000 10:07:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from SungKi.Kim@Sun.COM) Received: from sunmail1.Sun.COM ([129.145.1.2]) by mercury.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12536; Mon, 8 May 2000 10:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jurassic.eng.sun.com (jurassic.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.88.31]) by sunmail1.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6.1-sunmail1) with ESMTP id KAA23908; Mon, 8 May 2000 10:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Sun.COM (flrmpk17x.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.17.140]) by jurassic.eng.sun.com (8.10.1+Sun/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e48H7Ah754306; Mon, 8 May 2000 10:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3916F43E.580A3DF1@Sun.COM> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 10:07:10 -0700 From: sung-ki kim Organization: Sun Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: ko, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Help! Help! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Folks I need your help in installing "Integrated 3 Com Etherlink 10/100 PCI LAN Controller with ACPI and Remote Wake Up" on on Dell OptiPlex GX100 which is running FreeBSD 2.2.8a. Unfornately, I tried to configure it, but impossible and terrible. (Note: Intel Pro 10/100M NIC is O.K.) Please see the following: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1. uname -a FreeBSD ic17.specweb.eng.sun.com 2.2.8-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE #0: Mon Nov 30 06:34:08 GMT 1998 jkh@time.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 2. System Model Dell OptiPlex GX100 3. LAN Card Integrated 3 Com Etherlink 10/100 PCI LAN Controller with ACPI and Remote Wake Up +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ How can I configure it? Would you please help me ASAP? Thanks, Kim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 10: 7:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A7F537B9ED; Mon, 8 May 2000 10:07:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from SungKi.Kim@Sun.COM) Received: from sunmail1.Sun.COM ([129.145.1.2]) by mercury.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12536; Mon, 8 May 2000 10:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jurassic.eng.sun.com (jurassic.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.88.31]) by sunmail1.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6.1-sunmail1) with ESMTP id KAA23908; Mon, 8 May 2000 10:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Sun.COM (flrmpk17x.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.17.140]) by jurassic.eng.sun.com (8.10.1+Sun/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e48H7Ah754306; Mon, 8 May 2000 10:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3916F43E.580A3DF1@Sun.COM> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 10:07:10 -0700 From: sung-ki kim Organization: Sun Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: ko, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Help! Help! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Folks I need your help in installing "Integrated 3 Com Etherlink 10/100 PCI LAN Controller with ACPI and Remote Wake Up" on on Dell OptiPlex GX100 which is running FreeBSD 2.2.8a. Unfornately, I tried to configure it, but impossible and terrible. (Note: Intel Pro 10/100M NIC is O.K.) Please see the following: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1. uname -a FreeBSD ic17.specweb.eng.sun.com 2.2.8-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE #0: Mon Nov 30 06:34:08 GMT 1998 jkh@time.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 2. System Model Dell OptiPlex GX100 3. LAN Card Integrated 3 Com Etherlink 10/100 PCI LAN Controller with ACPI and Remote Wake Up +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ How can I configure it? Would you please help me ASAP? Thanks, Kim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 10: 9:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D00A37B9ED for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 10:09:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12opNe-000Mkg-00; Mon, 08 May 2000 16:23:34 +0100 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.12 #7) id 12opNe-0008IV-00; Mon, 08 May 2000 16:23:34 +0100 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 16:23:34 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: schilling@fokus.gmd.de Cc: farid.hajji@ob.kamp.net, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cdrecord, freebsd and atapi cd-writers Message-ID: <20000508162334.G79359@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <200005081233.OAA18951@burner.fokus.gmd.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200005081233.OAA18951@burner.fokus.gmd.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG schilling@fokus.gmd.de wrote: > FreeBSD does not support ATAPI drives. The drivers are not integrated into > the SCSI kernel subsystem.... so the scripts under /usr/share/examples/atapi don't work? I've never tried them (my CDR is on a FreeBSD 4 box) but always assumed they did work. If you just mean that cdrecord does not work with ATAPI drives on FreeBSD then may I ask that you do not spread misleading FUD, please? -- Ben Smithurst / ben@scientia.demon.co.uk / PGP: 0x99392F7D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 10:21:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6373937BB51 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 10:21:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e48HqNx15417; Mon, 8 May 2000 10:52:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 10:52:23 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Dmitry Koltsov Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vm_fault Message-ID: <20000508105223.I15613@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <16817.000508@hostonfly.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <16817.000508@hostonfly.com>; from root@hostonfly.com on Mon, May 08, 2000 at 07:36:38PM +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Dmitry Koltsov [000508 09:09] wrote: > > May 7 17:00:05 serverX /kernel: vm_fault: pager read error, pid 58412 > > and after that process goes to "D" state and can not be killed, only > system reset (reboot wasn't successfull)... > what is that? Most likely your swap partition has bad blocks, you'll need a new disk. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 10:31:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from server1.flyinghosting.com (www.flyhost.com [216.65.103.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649A637BAF2 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 10:31:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@hostonfly.com) Received: from 213.221.48.24 ([213.221.48.24]) by server1.flyinghosting.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA33762; Mon, 8 May 2000 18:30:31 GMT Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 21:30:26 +0400 From: Dmitry Koltsov X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.38e) S/N A1D26E39 / Educational Reply-To: Dmitry Koltsov X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <7896.000508@hostonfly.com> To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: vm_fault In-reply-To: <20000508105223.I15613@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20000508105223.I15613@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm using nfs... Best regards, Dmitry Koltsov Host On Fly S.A. mailto:root@hostonfly.com AP> * Dmitry Koltsov [000508 09:09] wrote: >> >> May 7 17:00:05 serverX /kernel: vm_fault: pager read error, pid 58412 >> >> and after that process goes to "D" state and can not be killed, only >> system reset (reboot wasn't successfull)... >> what is that? AP> Most likely your swap partition has bad blocks, you'll need a new disk. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 10:34:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sigbus.com (sigbus.com [207.211.10.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA7837B90E for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 10:34:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from henrich@sigbus.com) Received: (from henrich@localhost) by sigbus.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA01656 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 8 May 2000 10:34:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from henrich) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 10:34:27 -0700 From: Charles Henrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Gigabit Ethernet Cards Message-ID: <20000508103427.J1290@sigbus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE X-PGP-Fingerprint: 1024/F7 FD C7 3A F5 6A 23 BF 76 C4 B8 C9 6E 41 A4 4F Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anoyne done any analysis to see which one is the fastest? (Lowest CPU overhead etc...) ? -Crh Charles Henrich Manex Visual Effects henrich@sigbus.com http://www.sigbus.com/~henrich To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 10:36:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lince.tdnet.com.br (lince.tdnet.com.br [200.236.148.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C8137BB1E for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 10:35:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kernel@tdnet.com.br) Received: from tdnet.com.br [200.236.148.118] by lince.tdnet.com.br with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.00) id ACB8306E0238; Mon, 08 May 2000 13:35:04 -0300 Message-ID: <3916CF65.8BC7835A@tdnet.com.br> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 14:29:57 +0000 From: Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: shannon stees Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: researching FreeBSD References: <20000508164515.90639.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG shannon stees wrote: > > Forgive me for being uninformed, but I'm researching FreeBSD and I have a > question that I have not found a specific answer for through searching the > net. If you could be of assistance, I would greatly appreciate it. > > What is the language in which FreeBSD is written? > > my email is: shadyshay@hotmail.com > > Thank you > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message Are you serious? It's C. -- "Sometimes I worry about being a success in a mediocre world." -- Lily Tomlin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 10:42:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.0.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7045937BB53 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 10:42:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomg@mailhost.nrnet.org) Received: from mailhost.nrnet.org (mailhost.nrnet.org [166.84.192.39]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF4530EF1; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:42:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (tomg@localhost) by mailhost.nrnet.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA00681; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:44:11 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 13:44:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Good Reply-To: Thomas Good To: Ian J Greely Cc: FBSD Questions Subject: Re: PPP succeeds...DNS fails In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 7 May 2000, Ian J Greely wrote: > Tom, > > Use netstat -r to look at the currently configured routes. Hello Ian, Right. No matter what I hack into /etc/ppp/ppp.conf my nameservers do not appear in output from netstat unless I run it manually. So there are acouple of items befuddling me. My /var/log/ppp.log shows that the ISP *is* passing ns1/ns2 to the Berkeley box...when I run route manually it tells me: add net [ns] gateway [IP]: file exists. And so I rerun netstat and voila. But telnet still fails. Here is my /etc/ppp/ppp.conf ---> set ifaddr [ my static IP ] [ gw IP] 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 add default [ ns1 IP ] [ gw IP ] add [ ns2 IP ] [ gw IP ] Point 1: The add seems to fail but the ISP passes the nameservers. Point 2: When I telnet I get the IP of the target in the 'Trying XXX.XXX.XX.XX...' message but eventually 'No route to host' Now, I may be a tad dense but could this process be a bit counter intuitive? Or could it be that the bsd box is trying to connect to the target via my network card (for the intranet)? That is my theory, anywho. If so, I need to force the correct route (in *theory* I've supplied this info with the netmask as the NIC uses a diff Nm). Any fixes greatly appreciated (and thanks much for your help so far!) Cheers, Tom > You should be looking to add a route to 0.0.0.0 netmask 0.0.0.0 with a > metric lower than any of the routes for your local hosts/network. If > you will be using this ppp connection to do the lions share of your > internet communications. ------- North Richmond Community Mental Health Center ------- Thomas Good MIS Coordinator Vital Signs: tomg@ { admin | q8 } .nrnet.org Phone: 718-354-5528 Fax: 718-354-5056 /* Member: Computer Professionals For Social Responsibility */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 10:48:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www7.gmx.net (www.gmx.net [194.221.183.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0245A37B76C for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 10:47:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from PMvN@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 25902 invoked by uid 0); 8 May 2000 17:47:35 -0000 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 19:47:34 +0200 (MEST) From: Paul van Nugteren To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: 1024 limit bootdisk? X-Authenticated-Sender: #0004834417@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [195.38.250.189] Message-ID: <25718.957808054@www7.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.5 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How can I boot freebsd without using the bootloader in the mbr? I have installed it already but I couldn't find any way to make a bootdisk and the partition is above the 1024 limit, is it common to boot freebsd from a floppy permanently? On the 3.3 stable cd there are some images, I tried fixit but I could't figure out the root parition some 0:wd(2b)/kernel I think, it's on the third partition of the first ide disk and I think the swapfile comes first cause I did an auto filesystem config. If I could only look ;-) Worst of all I have backupped data on another freebsd partition :-( but that is inaccesible because winARGH! destroyed the mbr. Can you reply to me directly it's web based mail and the volume of the list is pretty big. Paul -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 10:49:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from iteso.mx (iteso.mx [148.201.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3443C37C072 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 10:49:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eric@iteso.mx) Received: from localhost (eric@localhost) by iteso.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA86315; Mon, 8 May 2000 12:48:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from eric@iteso.mx) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 12:48:56 -0500 (CDT) From: De la Cruz Lugo Eric To: Charles Henrich Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Gigabit Ethernet Cards In-Reply-To: <20000508103427.J1290@sigbus.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think you could check the hardware profile for the ftp.cdrom.com site, its using a Gigabit ethernet card but i can't remmember which one. by the way you guys are in other Movie right now?, Matrix 2? greetings from Merida, Yucatan, Mexico, the Mayaland. Eric De La Cruz Lugo. On Mon, 8 May 2000, Charles Henrich wrote: > Has anoyne done any analysis to see which one is the fastest? (Lowest CPU > overhead etc...) ? > > -Crh > > Charles Henrich Manex Visual Effects henrich@sigbus.com > > http://www.sigbus.com/~henrich > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 10:53: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.whack.org (apogee.whack.org [216.186.243.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF36B37B90E for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 10:52:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ryno@whack.org) Received: from mx1.whack.org ([216.186.243.182] ident=ryno) by mx1.whack.org with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #1) id 12orhR-0000F9-00; Mon, 08 May 2000 10:52:09 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 10:52:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Ryan Moser To: Aleksandar Simic Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mixer trouble In-Reply-To: <20000507204020.A374@frustum.clara.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i have the exact same card. it took me a month or so to figure out the lines to put in my kernel. the tricky part is you have to have the isa support even thought it is a pci sound card??? here are the lines that i put into my kernel device pcm0 at isa? irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x0 device pca0 at isa? port IO_TIMER1 this makes xmms play mp3's but i'm still unable to cat sounds to /dev/audio everything else sounds great though because it took me so long to do i hope this works On Sun, 7 May 2000, Aleksandar Simic wrote: > Hi, > > I've just installed Sound Blaster 128 pci sound card under FreeBSD > 4.0. > > dmesg output : > > pcm0: port 0x1000-0x103f irq 10 at device 14.0 on > pci0 > > Then I did: > > # cd /dev > # ./MAKEDEV snd0 > > (I've also tried making snd1 before making snd0 but then mixer > wouldn't work at all, I then deleted mixer1 and made snd0) > > Then when I run mixer I get the appropriate values: > > Mixer vol is currently set to 80:80 > Mixer pcm is currently set to 81:81 > Mixer speaker is currently set to 80:80 > Mixer line is currently set to 78:78 > Mixer mic is currently set to 84:84 > Mixer cd is currently set to 78:78 > Mixer rec is currently set to 73:73 > Mixer line1 is currently set to 78:78 > Mixer video is currently set to 78:78 > > (I set them via "mixer vol cd ... from /etc/rc.local ) > > But when I try to play CD's using wmcdplay -d /dev/acd0c or mp3's with > xmms, no sound comes out of speakers. But if I connect my earphones > directly to the CD drive I can hear the CD's normally. > > I have checked my cable connections and they are all in order. > > When I did the above mentioned steps under 3.4 sound worked but now it > doesn't. If you can help me I would be very grateful. > > -Alex > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 11: 6:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from psiklone.dyndns.org (216-42-72-140.ppp.netsville.net [216.42.72.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04BD637B801 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 11:06:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tms@psiklone.com) Received: from psiklone.dyndns.org (tms@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by psiklone.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA05467 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:06:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tms@psiklone.com) From: Tim To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvsup Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 14:03:25 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00050814063500.05456@psiklone.dyndns.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Afternoon... I've had problems since I installed fbsd 4.0. I can't CVSUP the ports-supfile. it gets to archivers and errors out with: Updater failed: /usr/ports/archivers/bzip/#cvs.cvsup-5460.3: Cannot create: Not a directory Can anyone point me in a direction...I'd like to have ports working. Thanks, Tim Strobel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 11: 8:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.EDU (gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.edu [141.165.1.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC3B737B62A for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 11:08:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gsi22419@gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.EDU) Received: from localhost (gsi22419@localhost) by gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id OAA55236; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:06:37 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 14:06:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott To: Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios Cc: shannon stees , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: researching FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <3916CF65.8BC7835A@tdnet.com.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This question and your answer makes me wonder. Are there no ASM optimizations that have been made? -scott On Mon, 8 May 2000, Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios wrote: > shannon stees wrote: > > What is the language in which FreeBSD is written? > > Are you serious? > It's C. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 11:23:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oracle.clara.net (oracle.clara.net [195.8.69.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3072237B5E8 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 11:23:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@clara.co.uk) Received: from [195.8.86.207] (helo=myname.my.domain) by oracle.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 12osBi-000Lsc-00; Mon, 8 May 2000 19:23:31 +0100 Received: (from alex@localhost) by myname.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA00931; Mon, 8 May 2000 19:21:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from alex) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 19:21:15 +0100 From: Aleksandar Simic To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Ryan Moser Subject: Re: Mixer trouble Message-ID: <20000508192115.A899@frustum.clara.co.uk> References: <20000507204020.A374@frustum.clara.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from ryno@whack.org on Mon, May 08, 2000 at 10:52:09AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 10:52:09AM -0700, Ryan Moser wrote: > i have the exact same card. it took me a month or so to figure out the > lines to put in my kernel. the tricky part is you have to have the isa > support even thought it is a pci sound card??? > > here are the lines that i put into my kernel > > device pcm0 at isa? irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x0 > device pca0 at isa? port IO_TIMER1 > > this makes xmms play mp3's but i'm still unable to cat sounds to > /dev/audio everything else sounds great though > > because it took me so long to do i hope this works Hi Ryan, Thanks for your reply, but in the end it turned out it was just a loose cable connection between the CD and the sound card. As far as the kernel configuration goes, all I have is: device pcm and it works. But what I found confusing was the fact that I had to run: ./MAKEDEV snd0 and *not* snd1 despite the fact that this is a pci card. Hope that helps you, -Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 11:43:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gold.killercomputing.com (ATHM-216-216-77-156.home.net [216.216.77.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D6C437B5E8 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 11:43:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pulcher@killercomputing.com) Received: from popgun ([199.233.181.2]) by gold.killercomputing.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA21397; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:44:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from pulcher@killercomputing.com) Message-ID: <019401bfb91e$9119ae40$02b5e9c7@killercomputing.com> From: "Harold Pulcher - Killer Computing" To: "shannon stees" , References: <20000508164515.90639.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: researching FreeBSD Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 13:52:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What I am wondering is: What does it matter? I mean I understand the need to know if you are developing stuff, but did you ask the same questions of Window's OS's, Solaris, etc... If you are just using the system, why would you care. A programming language is in no way a guage of how the OS will perform. If the OS does what you need it todo, then it could have been programmed in ALGOL, PL1, COBOL, ASM, Pascal, FORTRAN, Lisp, and (I forget the rest of the languages I have run into in the past. Rest assured it is a long list). Just wondering what would make a person pose such a question, Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: shannon stees To: Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 11:45 AM Subject: researching FreeBSD > Forgive me for being uninformed, but I'm researching FreeBSD and I have a > question that I have not found a specific answer for through searching the > net. If you could be of assistance, I would greatly appreciate it. > > What is the language in which FreeBSD is written? > > my email is: shadyshay@hotmail.com > > Thank you > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 11:44: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3496637BB97 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 11:44:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e48JEnC17489; Mon, 8 May 2000 12:14:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 12:14:49 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Scott Cc: Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios , shannon stees , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: researching FreeBSD Message-ID: <20000508121449.A17425@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <3916CF65.8BC7835A@tdnet.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from gsi22419@gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.EDU on Mon, May 08, 2000 at 02:06:35PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Mon, 8 May 2000, Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios wrote: > > > shannon stees wrote: > > > What is the language in which FreeBSD is written? > > > > Are you serious? > > It's C. > * Scott [000508 11:40] wrote: > > This question and your answer makes me wonder. Are there no ASM > optimizations that have been made? ASM optimizations are done for some key kernel routines and C library routines as well as places where C can not reach low enough to provide the hardware/CPU twiddling needed for the job. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 11:45: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bitstream.net (exodus.bitstream.net [204.73.77.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E7D37BB56 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 11:45:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danield@bitstream.net) Received: from dmitri.bitstream.net (dmitri.bitstream.net [206.144.236.191]) by bitstream.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA29181 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:45:03 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 13:46:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Dan Debertin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: NFS bad cookie errors Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We are getting a ton of bad cookie errors on NFS-mounted directories: /kernel: got bad cookie vp 0xdac22860 bp 0xcc35f280 This occurs on large operations (listings, deletions, etc.) on directories mounted off of Solaris machines, and a NetApp Filer as well. All of our machines run FreeBSD 4.0. Would someone be willing to tell me what this means, and how to fix it? Thanks -- ~Dan D. __________________________________________________________________________ -- Lack of planning on your part doesn't consitute an emergency -- on my part. ++ Daniel M. Debertin ++ Senior Systems Administrator ++ Bitstream Underground, Inc. ++ danield@bitstream.net ++ (612) 321-9290 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 11:51:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (mailhub.fokus.gmd.de [193.174.154.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1655E37BB42 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 11:51:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from schilling@fokus.gmd.de) Received: from fokus.gmd.de (sherwood [193.175.133.102]) by mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA10910; Mon, 8 May 2000 20:49:13 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from jes@localhost) by fokus.gmd.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id UAA17542; Mon, 8 May 2000 20:49:33 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 20:49:33 +0200 (MET DST) From: Joerg Schilling Message-Id: <200005081849.UAA17542@fokus.gmd.de> To: ben@scientia.demon.co.uk, schilling@fokus.gmd.de Cc: farid.hajji@ob.kamp.net, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cdrecord, freebsd and atapi cd-writers Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >From ben@scientia.demon.co.uk Mon May 8 19:07:15 2000 >schilling@fokus.gmd.de wrote: >> FreeBSD does not support ATAPI drives. The drivers are not integrated into >> the SCSI kernel subsystem.... >so the scripts under /usr/share/examples/atapi don't work? I've never I do't know. At least they don't mention cdrecord. >tried them (my CDR is on a FreeBSD 4 box) but always assumed they did >work. If you just mean that cdrecord does not work with ATAPI drives on >FreeBSD then may I ask that you do not spread misleading FUD, please? ????????????? Cdrecord supports ATAPI drives if the OS supports them. I as the author of cdrecord have no influence on OS design. ATAPI is SCSI commands sent over IDE transport. The natural way of implementing this transport is to add a IDE specific hostadapter driver to the SCSI subsystem. If the authors of an OS decide to implement ATAPI in a different way, cdrecord will not work for ATAPI drives on this OS. Jörg EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 schilling@fokus.gmd.de (work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.gmd.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.fokus.gmd.de/pub/unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 11:53:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from home.offwhite.net (home.offwhite.net [156.46.35.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7AD37BB81 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 11:53:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brennan@offwhite.net) Received: from localhost (brennan@localhost) by home.offwhite.net (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA81471; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:53:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 13:53:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Brennan W Stehling To: Harold Pulcher - Killer Computing Cc: shannon stees , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: researching FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <019401bfb91e$9119ae40$02b5e9c7@killercomputing.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I do not see anyone writing a drive in COBOL, although I was tempted to create a CGI script with it once, but that thought passed quickly. I would say ASM is useful in much the same way compiled C code is used in several perl modules. If you want to get very efficient, you use the language which can do it more efficiently. Perl does not run as quickly as C and C does not run as fast as ASM. I do not know where COBOL would fit in. Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com Microsoft: Will you get a macro virus today? On Mon, 8 May 2000, Harold Pulcher - Killer Computing wrote: > What I am wondering is: What does it matter? > > I mean I understand the need to know if you are developing stuff, but did > you ask the same questions of Window's OS's, Solaris, etc... > > If you are just using the system, why would you care. > > A programming language is in no way a guage of how the OS will perform. If > the OS does what you need it todo, then it could have been programmed in > ALGOL, PL1, COBOL, ASM, Pascal, FORTRAN, Lisp, and (I forget the rest of the > languages I have run into in the past. Rest assured it is a long list). > > Just wondering what would make a person pose such a question, > Harold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: shannon stees > To: > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 11:45 AM > Subject: researching FreeBSD > > > > Forgive me for being uninformed, but I'm researching FreeBSD and I have a > > question that I have not found a specific answer for through searching the > > net. If you could be of assistance, I would greatly appreciate it. > > > > What is the language in which FreeBSD is written? > > > > my email is: shadyshay@hotmail.com > > > > Thank you > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 12: 5:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from summersault.com (nollie.summersault.com [199.120.185.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 49B2737BB99 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 12:05:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@summersault.com) Received: (qmail 88713 invoked from network); 8 May 2000 19:05:37 -0000 Received: from hoobella.summersault.com (HELO summersault.com) (208.247.88.176) by nollie.summersault.com with SMTP; 8 May 2000 19:05:37 -0000 Message-ID: <39171001.66200C35@summersault.com> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 14:09:06 -0500 From: Mark Stosberg Reply-To: mark@summersault.com Organization: Summersault X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: why is Minivend/FreeBSD combo is slow? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! I'm debugging a performance issue with Minivend 4.02 on FreeBSD 3.1. I'm posting this here because as far as I can tell, FreeBSD is being slow for some reason, rather than Minivend. I've noticed over several tries that when I load the Minivend index.html page the first time, it takes about 8 seconds the first time I connect and then 1 or 2 seconds for loads of that page after that. The lag appears to be on the server-side. I'm connected over a fast LAN to the server so I think I think can take my connection speed out of the equation. :) I did some poking around with "top" to see what was happening during those 8 seconds. From what I can tell, it appears minivend is inactive until the very end, when it pops up for just a second, does it's thing, and then sleeps again. My front page is very basic, no database calls. I would imagine the only thing Minivend is doing is creating a session id. So then, my intuition leads me to think it's something do with networking. I'm running on FreeBSD 3.1 in INET mode. (When I run in Unix mode I get "server unavailable pages". I think this has something do with my Apache/SuExec configuration ). Is there anything I should know about INET mode and Sockets on FreeBSD when using Perl, especially Minivend? My guess is that I have a server misconfiguration someplace relative to these issues. Thanks! -mark <<-------------------------------------------------------------->> personal website < Summersault Website Design http://mark.stosberg.com/ > http://www.summersault.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 12: 8:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gold.killercomputing.com (ATHM-216-216-77-156.home.net [216.216.77.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B938D37B923 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 12:08:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pulcher@killercomputing.com) Received: from popgun ([199.233.181.2]) by gold.killercomputing.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA21511; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:08:54 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from pulcher@killercomputing.com) Message-ID: <01b201bfb921$f7695d00$02b5e9c7@killercomputing.com> From: "Harold Pulcher - Killer Computing" To: "Brennan W Stehling" Cc: "shannon stees" , References: Subject: Re: researching FreeBSD Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 14:16:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brennan, I think you missed the point. But that ok. :) Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: Brennan W Stehling To: Harold Pulcher - Killer Computing Cc: shannon stees ; Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 1:53 PM Subject: Re: researching FreeBSD > I do not see anyone writing a drive in COBOL, although I was tempted to > create a CGI script with it once, but that thought passed quickly. > > I would say ASM is useful in much the same way compiled C code is used in > several perl modules. If you want to get very efficient, you use the > language which can do it more efficiently. > > Perl does not run as quickly as C and C does not run as fast as ASM. I do > not know where COBOL would fit in. > > Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin > projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com > > Microsoft: Will you get a macro virus today? > > On Mon, 8 May 2000, Harold Pulcher - Killer Computing wrote: > > > What I am wondering is: What does it matter? > > > > I mean I understand the need to know if you are developing stuff, but did > > you ask the same questions of Window's OS's, Solaris, etc... > > > > If you are just using the system, why would you care. > > > > A programming language is in no way a guage of how the OS will perform. If > > the OS does what you need it todo, then it could have been programmed in > > ALGOL, PL1, COBOL, ASM, Pascal, FORTRAN, Lisp, and (I forget the rest of the > > languages I have run into in the past. Rest assured it is a long list). > > > > Just wondering what would make a person pose such a question, > > Harold > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: shannon stees > > To: > > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 11:45 AM > > Subject: researching FreeBSD > > > > > > > Forgive me for being uninformed, but I'm researching FreeBSD and I have a > > > question that I have not found a specific answer for through searching the > > > net. If you could be of assistance, I would greatly appreciate it. > > > > > > What is the language in which FreeBSD is written? > > > > > > my email is: shadyshay@hotmail.com > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 12:11:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dialup.nacamar.de (authsrv.nacamar.de [194.162.162.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2CA5C37B513 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 12:11:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oliverko@dialup.nacamar.de) Received: (qmail 18493 invoked from network); 8 May 2000 19:11:31 -0000 Received: from dialup12-62.access.nacamar.de (HELO p3x2w2) (@62.144.243.62) by authsrv.nacamar.de with SMTP; 8 May 2000 19:11:31 -0000 Message-ID: <008e01bfb921$db33fd20$0201a8c0@p3x2w2> From: To: Subject: IPv6 lookups ??? Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 21:15:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, my freebsd box makes every time I try to connect (telnet) to a host in my private LAN a lookup to the nameserver (nameserver of my ISP). I configured /etc/host.conf with the order: hosts bind. Why doesn't use the system the /etc/hosts file? The machines I tried to connected to are listet in this file. I read in the fbsd - mailing lists someting about IPv6 which could produce the problem -> somrting wrong with the lookup order: - IPv6 /etc/hosts - IPv6 DNS - IPv4 /etc/hosts - IPv4 DNS Is there a possibility to switch off the IPv6 support? thx, Oliver To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 12:13: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tungsten.btinternet.com (tungsten.btinternet.com [194.73.73.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D7837BC34 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 12:12:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from [213.1.116.6] (helo=parish.my.domain) by tungsten.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12osx1-0007BH-00; Mon, 8 May 2000 20:12:20 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA02118; Mon, 8 May 2000 20:12:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 20:12:43 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Aleksandar Simic Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ryan Moser Subject: Re: Mixer trouble Message-ID: <20000508201243.D233@parish> References: <20000507204020.A374@frustum.clara.co.uk> <20000508192115.A899@frustum.clara.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000508192115.A899@frustum.clara.co.uk>; from alex@frustum.clara.co.uk on Mon, May 08, 2000 at 07:21:15PM +0100 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 07:21:15PM +0100, Aleksandar Simic wrote: > On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 10:52:09AM -0700, Ryan Moser wrote: > > > i have the exact same card. it took me a month or so to figure out the > > lines to put in my kernel. the tricky part is you have to have the isa > > support even thought it is a pci sound card??? > > > > here are the lines that i put into my kernel > > > > device pcm0 at isa? irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x0 > > device pca0 at isa? port IO_TIMER1 > > > > this makes xmms play mp3's but i'm still unable to cat sounds to > > /dev/audio everything else sounds great though > > > > because it took me so long to do i hope this works > > Hi Ryan, > > Thanks for your reply, but in the end it turned out it was just a > loose cable connection between the CD and the sound card. > > As far as the kernel configuration goes, all I have is: > > device pcm > > and it works. > > But what I found confusing was the fact that I had to run: > > ./MAKEDEV snd0 > > and *not* snd1 despite the fact that this is a pci card. > You are running 4.0 right? The behaviour has changed; pcm0 (and therefore snd0) is no longer reserved for ISA cards. he numbers are assigned in the order the devices are found. HTH > Hope that helps you, > > -Alex > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- ...and on the eighth day God created UNIX ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 12:25:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (mail.dohboys.com [208.26.253.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EB937BC0A for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 12:25:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.18]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 8 May 2000 12:28:35 -0700 Message-ID: <3917142C.2F4000FE@3-cities.com> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 12:23:24 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joerg Schilling Cc: ben@scientia.demon.co.uk, farid.hajji@ob.kamp.net, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cdrecord, freebsd and atapi cd-writers References: <200005081849.UAA17542@fokus.gmd.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Joerg Schilling wrote: > > >From ben@scientia.demon.co.uk Mon May 8 19:07:15 2000 > > >schilling@fokus.gmd.de wrote: > > >> FreeBSD does not support ATAPI drives. The drivers are not integrated into > >> the SCSI kernel subsystem.... > > >so the scripts under /usr/share/examples/atapi don't work? I've never > > I do't know. At least they don't mention cdrecord. I have a clean version 4.0 and I don't have any scripts in the atapi directory. > > >tried them (my CDR is on a FreeBSD 4 box) but always assumed they did > >work. If you just mean that cdrecord does not work with ATAPI drives on > >FreeBSD then may I ask that you do not spread misleading FUD, please? > ????????????? > > Cdrecord supports ATAPI drives if the OS supports them. I as the author > of cdrecord have no influence on OS design. > > ATAPI is SCSI commands sent over IDE transport. The natural way of implementing > this transport is to add a IDE specific hostadapter driver to the SCSI > subsystem. If the authors of an OS decide to implement ATAPI in a different > way, cdrecord will not work for ATAPI drives on this OS. I've never tried to use cdrecord, but I have burned a number of data cd's using burncd and an ATAPI HP8100i. Soren recently fixed atapi-cd.c so that it would write on HP CDROM's. Kent > > Jörg > > EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin > js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 > schilling@fokus.gmd.de (work) chars I am J"org Schilling > URL: http://www.fokus.gmd.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.fokus.gmd.de/pub/unix > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 12:31:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.0.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1399737B629 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 12:31:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomg@mailhost.nrnet.org) Received: from mailhost.nrnet.org (mailhost.nrnet.org [166.84.192.39]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED9AA15586; Mon, 8 May 2000 15:30:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (tomg@localhost) by mailhost.nrnet.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA01196; Mon, 8 May 2000 15:32:43 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 15:32:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Good To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP succeeds...DNS fails In-Reply-To: <20000507211317.A69306@hades.hell.gr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 7 May 2000, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > First check to make sure that your /etc/host.conf file contains 'bind' > % cat /etc/host.conf > hosts > bind Yes, it looks good. > Then, check the routing table. You should have your default route pointing to > the ppp link. View the routing table with: I use the following to connect via User PPP. ::::::::::::: /etc/ppp/ppp.conf ::::::::::::: default: set device /dev/cuaa0 set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command set speed 115200 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" ISP: set timeout 120 # 888 str is my IP (static), 777 is the ISP's gw box set ifaddr 888.88.888.88 777.7.7.777 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 # Here is the primary NS / gw add default 777.7.0.7 777.7.0.777 # Here is the 2nd NS / gw add 777.7.0.77 777.7.0.777 enable dns set phone 5551212 # Here is an accurate description of the usr set authname doofus set authkey silly_bugger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I get errors from route that the network is unreachable, however, this seems reasonable as we are not connected yet. Is this correct??? If I run netstat at this point, it does not list my ISP's nameservers despite the fact that they are indeed listed in /var/log/ppp.log So I run the following script: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ::::::::::::: /home/doofus/route.sh ::::::::::::: #!/bin/sh # ident: route.sh route add 777.7.0.7 -netmask 255.255.255.0 777.7.7.777 route add 777.7.0.77 -netmask 255.255.255.0 777.7.7.777 # forcing the issue...just to prove I can telnet to something!!! route add 666.66.0.666 -netmask 255.255.255.0 777.7.0.777 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now route complains that it already knows about the nameservers... Then I run ifconfig and all looks OK... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ::::::::::::: ifconfig -a ::::::::::::: xl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 999.999.999.19 netmask 0xffff0000 broadcast 999.999.255.255 ether 00:60:08:a8:54:75 media: 10baseT/UTP supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP [ snip ] tun0: flags=8051 mtu 1500 inet 166.84.207.41 --> 777.7.0.124 netmask 0xffffff00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I run netstat and it sees the gw and ns1 and ns2. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ::::::::::::: netstat -rn ::::::::::::: Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire localhost localhost UH 0 2180 lo0 999.999.999/99 link#1 UC 0 0 xl0 box1 0:a0:24:9a:1a:53 UHLW 1 10668 xl0 703 box2 0:c0:d:1:c:1b UHLW 1 82304 xl0 954 ns1.public.net gw.public.net UGHS 0 47 tun0 ns2.public.net gw.public.net UGHS 0 10 tun0 gw.public.net doofus.dialup.acce UH 2 0 tun0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ But telnet dies --- "No route to host" even tho it finds the IP of the box in question. ??? Thanks! Tom ------- North Richmond Community Mental Health Center ------- Thomas Good MIS Coordinator Vital Signs: tomg@ { admin | q8 } .nrnet.org Phone: 718-354-5528 Fax: 718-354-5056 /* Member: Computer Professionals For Social Responsibility */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 12:36:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hawkins.cba.uni.edu (hawkins.cba.uni.edu [134.161.248.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D966F37BB99 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 12:36:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hawk2@hawkins.cba.uni.edu) Received: from hawkins.cba.uni.edu (really [127.0.0.1]) by hawkins.cba.uni.edu via in.smtpd with esmtp (ident hawk2 using rfc1413) id (Debian Smail3.2.0.102) for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:36:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: bsd can't see disk (and neither can linux) Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 14:36:18 -0500 From: hawk2@hawkins.cba.uni.edu Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After about a year and a half, suddenly my maxtor 8.4G drive is unusable by both freebsd and linux. I have a small linux partition on the first partition/slice, windows 3.1 for the kids on the second, and freebsd on the third. The FreeBSD is 3.4, while the linux is about a two years out of date debian with ufs support. For several months, the bsd bootloader has been unable to remember that it should boot from the third rather than the first, and had to be manually told to boot from the third on every boot. Linux continued to work during that period. Suddenly, freebsd can no longer boot at all. It fails to find the slice when attempting to switch the root device. Booting from the installation disks returns the message that no disk was found when I try to mount/partition. Linux has a similar behavior, but doesn't pause long enough for me to see the messages :( I get a kernel panic during boot, which seems to be for failing to find the device it is trying to mount. It has the same response when lilo is told to boot single user. The bottom line on the behavior is that windows works normally, and that the bootloaders for both *nices are able to read the disk but that both *nices are unable to find the hard drive at mount time. I've rechecked and reconnected the cables a couple of times. Any ideas? And if all else fails, is there a dos or windows program that can read a UFS partition? NsoOthing critical is on the machine--except, of course, my completed tax return. For the first time in over ten years I was ready on the regular deadline, and had to file an extension. (OK, a couple of other critical things, but they're backed up in multiple places. ) rick, perplexed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 12:38: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cortex.NSMA.Arizona.EDU (cortex.NSMA.Arizona.EDU [128.196.180.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77CDB37BBA6; Mon, 8 May 2000 12:38:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ddw@cortex.NSMA.Arizona.EDU) Received: from cortex (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cortex.NSMA.Arizona.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.5) with ESMTP id MAA16581; Mon, 8 May 2000 12:50:36 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200005081950.MAA16581@cortex.NSMA.Arizona.EDU> Reply-To: ddw@NSMA.Arizona.EDU X-Mailer: nmh - The "True to Unix" mail handler To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with 36GB SCSI drives... Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 12:50:35 -0700 From: Doug Wellington Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK, I've been working on various incarnations of this problem for a week now... I have another day or two and then I'm gonna have to go back to NT... Sigh... [Help me, PLEASE...!] I have a PC (550 MHZ P-III, Asus P3B-F, 256 MB) with two Adaptec 2940U2W boards with six IBM DMVS36V 36GB drives. I also have a four gig internal SCSI drive attached to the first 2940U2W to boot from. The goal is to use vinum and create a RAID5 system... OK, I have installed FreeBSD 4.0 from the CD that I was shipped. I then try to use disklabel to put a label onto the first 36GB drive, like so: disklabel -Brw da1 auto but the SCSI bus times out and then I'm hosed. I get the following messages: (da1:ahc0:0:1:0) SCB 0x0c - timed out in Data-out phase, SSEQADDR == 0x5d (da1:ahc0:0:1:0) BDR message in message buffer (da1:ahc0:0:1:0) SCB 0x0c - timed out in Data-out phase, SSEQADDR == 0x5e (da1:ahc0:0:1:0) BDR message in message buffer (da1:ahc0:0:1:0) no longer in timeout, status = 34b ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 4 SCBs aborted And a screen full of similar messages. (I have to copy them over by hand, but I'll do it if it means solving this problem.) The internal disk seems to go into a timeout as well. (da0:ahc0:0:0:0) After a few minutes, the command prompt comes back, and I can type "disklabel da1" and get what looks like a valid reply. I can also run disklabel -e and add another partition, but if I try to use newfs, I get the same timeout problems. I've tried this with disks attached to the other 2940 with the same results. (Except that the internal drive doesn't time out in that case...) If I try to reboot the computer at this (or any other) point, it freezes with the following message: int=00000000 err=00000000 efl=00030246 eip=00001b54 eax=00000000 ebx=00000386 ecx=00000000 edx=00000000 esi=00009ebd edi=00001a3e ebp=0000038e esp=00000382 cs=d000 ds=0040 es=9ebd fs=0000 gs=0000 ss=9ebd cs:eip=f7 f1 33 d2 8a 4e f6 f7-f1 3d ff 03 76 03 b8 ff ss:esp=00 00 3f 00 00 00 00 00-00 00 02 00 df 09 00 d0 system halted I get this message whether I reboot immediately after the first disklabel command, or if I reboot after using disklabel to add a partition, or after using newfs. I get the same message whether I try to boot from the system on the hard disk or from the 4.0 CD-ROM. I get a similar message when trying to boot from a 3.4 CD. At this point, the only way I can do anything is to reboot, hit ctrl-A to get into the Adaptec diagnostics and reformat the 36 GB hard disk at that level. Then I can reboot and FreeBSD starts right up from the internal hard disk where it was originally installed. What gives? Anybody have any ideas? -Doug -- Doug Wellington System and Network Administrator ddw@nsma.arizona.edu The University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ, USA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 12:42:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailhop1.nyroc.rr.com (mailhop1-0.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFCC937BC2A for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 12:42:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dheller1@rochester.rr.com) Received: from mailout1.nyroc.rr.com ([24.92.226.146]) by mailhop1.nyroc.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 15:39:12 -0400 Received: from rochester.rr.com ([24.24.34.106]) by mailout1.nyroc.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 15:42:06 -0400 Message-ID: <3917187D.8E6D07D7@rochester.rr.com> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 15:41:49 -0400 From: David Heller X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: vmware question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I recently installed vmware for FreeBSD 4.0 stable. I currently have one 4gig scsi drive devoted entirely to Freebsd. what I would like to do is install windows 98 on a seperate ide drive. However I currently have no support for ide drives installed in my kernel. Will vmware see a ide drive (i have it enabled in my bios)even though my kernel won't recognise it.Or will I have to enable it in my kernel? Thanks Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 12:53:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law-f141.hotmail.com [209.185.131.204]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 51AF237BBE0 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 12:53:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shameek_basu@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 35520 invoked by uid 0); 8 May 2000 19:53:09 -0000 Message-ID: <20000508195309.35519.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 131.107.3.74 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 08 May 2000 12:53:09 PDT X-Originating-IP: [131.107.3.74] From: "Shameek Basu" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Using the NT Boot Manager with FreeBSD Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 12:53:09 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have NT loaded on IDE disk1, Linux loaded on IDE disk2 and am trying to install FreeBSD 4.0 on IDE disk4 (disk3 is the CD-ROM). Currently I am using NT's boot mgr to boot into NT/Linux, and want to continue to use it since I have heard that it is sort of sensitive. I have seen postings which say that using dd if=/dev/wd0c of=/mnt/bootsect.bsd bs=512 count=1 and altering the boot.ini file in the NT partition will allow me to choose to boot into FreeBSD. I wanted to know if this will continue to work in FreeBSD 4.0 (the postings were for earlier verions)... Thanks, Shameek ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 13:14:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu (larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu [128.84.247.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4F537BBFF; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:14:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mkc@larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu) Received: from larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu (mkc@localhost) by larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA70043; Mon, 8 May 2000 16:14:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mkc@larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu) Message-Id: <200005082014.QAA70043@larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu> To: ddw@NSMA.Arizona.EDU Cc: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with 36GB SCSI drives... In-Reply-To: Message from Doug Wellington of "Mon, 08 May 2000 12:50:35 PDT." <200005081950.MAA16581@cortex.NSMA.Arizona.EDU> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 16:14:17 -0400 From: Mitch Collinsworth Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >OK, I've been working on various incarnations of this problem for a week >now... I have another day or two and then I'm gonna have to go back to >NT... Sigh... [Help me, PLEASE...!] NO, anything but that! I hope you won't feel insulted if I ask if you've made extra certain that you don't have 2 devices using the same scsi address. Not just by looking at the switch or jumper settings, but reading through the boot messages to make sure they're all registering differently. Maybe even try disconnecting power from the ones not currently being used to see if that gets you through disklabel. And double-check termination and cabling distance rules. (Somehow this doesn't sound like the sort of thing NT is going to solve.) -Mitch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 13:15:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (mail.dohboys.com [208.26.253.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED2F37BBF1 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:15:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.18]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:20:22 -0700 Message-ID: <3917204E.A17EDBC1@3-cities.com> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 13:15:10 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Shameek Basu Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using the NT Boot Manager with FreeBSD References: <20000508195309.35519.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Shameek Basu wrote: > > Hi, > I have NT loaded on IDE disk1, Linux loaded on IDE disk2 and am > trying to install FreeBSD 4.0 on IDE disk4 (disk3 is the CD-ROM). Currently > I am using NT's boot mgr to boot into NT/Linux, and want to continue to use > it since I have heard that it is sort of sensitive. > > I have seen postings which say that using > > dd if=/dev/wd0c of=/mnt/bootsect.bsd bs=512 count=1 > > and altering the boot.ini file in the NT partition will allow me to > choose to boot into FreeBSD. I wanted to know if this will continue to work > in FreeBSD 4.0 (the postings were for earlier verions)... I never did that. It was too easy to copy /boot/boot1 as a file to my "C" drive. I called it bootsec.bsd and added that to my boot.ini. Works like a charm. I can use NT to swap what I want to be the primary boot, which is FreeBSD. Kent > > Thanks, > Shameek > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 13:16:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fbsd01.granitepost.com (fbsd01.granitepost.com [209.150.104.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9FB437BBF1 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:16:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clabrown@granitepost.com) Received: from thunder (thunder.granitepost.com [209.150.104.140]) by fbsd01.granitepost.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA00497; Mon, 8 May 2000 16:58:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "Clarence Brown" To: "'Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios'" Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD as a real-time solution? Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 16:04:18 -0400 Message-ID: <005101bfb928$9837fe20$8c6896d1@granitepost.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3915B28E.245CF6AB@tdnet.com.br> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm not a FreeBSD expert, but in "Dr. Dobb's Journal" #310 March 2000 (www.ddj.com) there is an article title "Real-Time Linux" that discusses 2 projects to bring real time to Linux. Perhaps these might also be applied to FreeBSD? Also, define "precise time measurements". What is the rate and granularity that you need? If your DOS system is "working", why do you want to "fix" it? Mentioned in the article: RTLinux at http://www.rtlinux.org, Real Time Application Interface, (an offshoot of RTLinux with better timers?) at http://www.aero.polimi.it/projects/rtai Cla. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of > Gustavo Vieira > Goncalves Coelho Rios > Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 2:15 PM > To: Gilad Rom > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: FreeBSD as a Real-Time solution? > > > Gilad Rom wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I have been using FreeBSD as a Server OS for a long time > with great success > > and satisfaction, > > and now the need has come for a new solution to our > production network, > > which has several 486/386 machines, > > that need a real time OS to monitor production status. > > > > Question is, could FreeBSD be made suitable for such tasks? > > Performance isnt an issue, but I need to make precise time > readings from the > > parallel port > > and timing is critical. Right now I am using DOS, which is > pretty much fine > > for that, but > > I want something better. > > > > Thank you, > > > > -- Gilad. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > I think that FreeBSD is not a solution for your needs. > FreeBSD isn't bad, but that's not its focus. > > Try something like QNX and/or Neutrino (http://www.qnx.com). > > -- > "Sometimes I worry about being a success in a mediocre world." > -- Lily Tomlin > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 13:21:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ptldpop3.ptld.uswest.net (ptldpop3.ptld.uswest.net [198.36.160.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED91B37BBFF for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:21:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bwoods2@uswest.net) Received: (qmail 48073 invoked by alias); 8 May 2000 20:18:45 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org@fixme Received: (qmail 48066 invoked by uid 0); 8 May 2000 20:18:44 -0000 Received: from alpha.uswest.net (63.227.213.92) by ptldpop3.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 8 May 2000 20:18:44 -0000 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 13:22:53 -0700 (PDT) From: William Woods Reply-To: bwoods2@uswest.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Make World on a DEC Alpha dies..... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Running 4.0-stable on a DEC Alpha I get the following with todays cvsup: ----------------------------------------------- mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/blank/.. -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/blank/.. -I. -I@ -I@/../include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/blank/blank_saver.c ===> sys/modules/syscons/daemon @ -> /usr/src/sys machine -> /usr/src/sys/alpha/include rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/daemon/.. -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/daemon/.. -I. -I@ -I@/../include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/daemon/daemon_saver.c ===> sys/modules/syscons/fade @ -> /usr/src/sys machine -> /usr/src/sys/alpha/include rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fade/.. -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fade/.. -I. -I@ -I@/../include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fade/fade_saver.c ===> sys/modules/syscons/fire @ -> /usr/src/sys machine -> /usr/src/sys/alpha/include rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fire/.. -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fire/.. -I. -I@ -I@/../include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fire/fire_saver.c /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fire/fire_saver.c:44: machine/random.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fire. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. *** Error code 1 --------------------------------- anyone have any ideas, suggestions? ------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTICE TO BULK E-MAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, and all unsolicited commercial e-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 13:24:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D99D237BD2E for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:24:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.18]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:29:07 -0700 Message-ID: <3917225C.1485370C@3-cities.com> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 13:23:56 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Clarence Brown Cc: 'Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD as a real-time solution? References: <005101bfb928$9837fe20$8c6896d1@granitepost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Clarence Brown wrote: > > I'm not a FreeBSD expert, but in "Dr. Dobb's Journal" #310 March 2000 > (www.ddj.com) there is an article title "Real-Time Linux" that discusses 2 > projects to bring real time to Linux. Perhaps these might also be applied to > FreeBSD? > > Also, define "precise time measurements". What is the rate and granularity > that you need? If your DOS system is "working", why do you want to "fix" it? > Because on DOS the RTC's ganularity is 0.055 seconds. The RTC is interrupted approximately 18.3 times a second. Not too accurate. Kent > > Mentioned in the article: > > RTLinux > at http://www.rtlinux.org, > > Real Time Application Interface, (an offshoot of RTLinux with better > timers?) > at http://www.aero.polimi.it/projects/rtai > > Cla. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of > > Gustavo Vieira > > Goncalves Coelho Rios > > Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 2:15 PM > > To: Gilad Rom > > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: FreeBSD as a Real-Time solution? > > > > > > Gilad Rom wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I have been using FreeBSD as a Server OS for a long time > > with great success > > > and satisfaction, > > > and now the need has come for a new solution to our > > production network, > > > which has several 486/386 machines, > > > that need a real time OS to monitor production status. > > > > > > Question is, could FreeBSD be made suitable for such tasks? > > > Performance isnt an issue, but I need to make precise time > > readings from the > > > parallel port > > > and timing is critical. Right now I am using DOS, which is > > pretty much fine > > > for that, but > > > I want something better. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > -- Gilad. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > I think that FreeBSD is not a solution for your needs. > > FreeBSD isn't bad, but that's not its focus. > > > > Try something like QNX and/or Neutrino (http://www.qnx.com). > > > > -- > > "Sometimes I worry about being a success in a mediocre world." > > -- Lily Tomlin > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 13:28:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web1.netravision.com (dhcp210.55.lvcm.com [24.234.55.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05EF837BDF1 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:28:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jackv@netravision.com) Received: from sqlczar.netravision.com (dhcp105.55.lvcm.com [24.234.55.105]) by web1.netravision.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.4.2) with SMTP id for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:33:07 -0700 From: Jack Verdirame Reply-To: jackv@netravision.com Organization: Netravision To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 13:18:35 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00050813320201.01072@sqlczar.netravision.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 13:31:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3C037BA10 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:31:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12osOs-000Mve-00; Mon, 08 May 2000 19:37:02 +0100 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.12 #7) id 12osOs-0002DO-00; Mon, 08 May 2000 19:37:02 +0100 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 19:37:01 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Scott Cc: Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios , shannon stees , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: researching FreeBSD Message-ID: <20000508193701.A55455@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <3916CF65.8BC7835A@tdnet.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Scott wrote: > This question and your answer makes me wonder. Are there no ASM > optimizations that have been made? Yes, but the vast majority of it is C. ben@magnesium:~$ locate "/usr/src/*.[Ss]" | wc -l 243 ben@magnesium:~$ locate "/usr/src/*.c" | wc -l 7127 Don't take this as meaning the ratio of C to assembler is 30:1, since the .c files may well be much bigger, the .s files are usually just one routine which has been optimized (e.g. some libc functions in /usr/src/lib/libc/i386). There is almost certainly more C and less assembler than 30:1. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@scientia.demon.co.uk / PGP: 0x99392F7D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 13:36:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from prserv.net (out5.prserv.net [32.97.166.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C6B37B72D for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:36:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from youlgok@attglobal.net) Received: from attglobal.net ([129.37.167.172]) by prserv.net (out5) with SMTP id <2000050820353924300hus1ue>; Mon, 8 May 2000 20:35:39 +0000 Message-ID: <391725D4.DECED4C1@attglobal.net> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 16:38:45 -0400 From: youlgok@attglobal.net Reply-To: youlgok@attglobal.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Q: Installing Netscape-Communicator-US-4.72 by Ports Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG While I try to install Netscape-Communicatro-US-4.72, I got following error message: "Makefile", line 71: Could not find /usr/ports/www/netscape47-communicator.us/../netscape4-communicator/Makefile make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue The working directory is: #pwd /usr/ports/www/netscape47-communicator.us and the source file is located in /usr/ports/distfiles. How do I fix this problem and install the program. Please help me. -youlgok To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 13:40:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F9E37BC1F for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:40:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e48LBTI21052; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:11:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 14:11:29 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Ben Smithurst Cc: Scott , Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios , shannon stees , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: researching FreeBSD Message-ID: <20000508141129.B17425@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <3916CF65.8BC7835A@tdnet.com.br> <20000508193701.A55455@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000508193701.A55455@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk>; from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk on Mon, May 08, 2000 at 07:37:01PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Ben Smithurst [000508 14:06] wrote: > Scott wrote: > > > This question and your answer makes me wonder. Are there no ASM > > optimizations that have been made? > > Yes, but the vast majority of it is C. > > ben@magnesium:~$ locate "/usr/src/*.[Ss]" | wc -l > 243 > ben@magnesium:~$ locate "/usr/src/*.c" | wc -l > 7127 > > Don't take this as meaning the ratio of C to assembler is 30:1, since > the .c files may well be much bigger, the .s files are usually just > one routine which has been optimized (e.g. some libc functions in > /usr/src/lib/libc/i386). There is almost certainly more C and less > assembler than 30:1. It's also important to note that although there is quite a bit of asm (relatively speaking) a bunch of it can be attributed to hand optimized routines for which C equivelants exist for archs that don't want/have-time to hand optimize. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 13:42:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from iteso.mx (iteso.mx [148.201.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8523437BC34 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:42:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eric@iteso.mx) Received: from localhost (eric@localhost) by iteso.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA70624 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 15:42:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from eric@iteso.mx) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 15:42:19 -0500 (CDT) From: De la Cruz Lugo Eric To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RTC and FreeBSD. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG PLease check the following URL: http://www.pcprofile.com/timepiece.HTM#1990 may be there is useful information there. Greetings from Merida, Yucatan, Mexico the Maya Land. Eric De LA Cruz Lugo. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 13:55:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lince.tdnet.com.br (lince.tdnet.com.br [200.236.148.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4854A37BC9A for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:55:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kernel@tdnet.com.br) Received: from tdnet.com.br [200.236.148.113] by lince.tdnet.com.br with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.00) id AB6CC7FC01F4; Mon, 08 May 2000 16:54:20 -0300 Message-ID: <3916FE19.DF7E47C4@tdnet.com.br> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 17:49:13 +0000 From: Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Clarence Brown Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD as a real-time solution? References: <005101bfb928$9837fe20$8c6896d1@granitepost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Clarence Brown wrote: > > I'm not a FreeBSD expert, but in "Dr. Dobb's Journal" #310 March 2000 > (www.ddj.com) there is an article title "Real-Time Linux" that discusses 2 > projects to bring real time to Linux. Perhaps these might also be applied to > FreeBSD? > > Also, define "precise time measurements". What is the rate and granularity > that you need? If your DOS system is "working", why do you want to "fix" it? > > > Mentioned in the article: > > RTLinux > at http://www.rtlinux.org, > > Real Time Application Interface, (an offshoot of RTLinux with better > timers?) > at http://www.aero.polimi.it/projects/rtai > > Cla. The solutions for real-time needs should be design from scratch! Where linux designed to be real time OS? I guess no! Real Time solution requires a total different approach than the classic kernel model used by Free/Open/Linux, etc...... That's not only the point! What about the correctness of the code? How can prove that it kernel is full deterministc ? Is FreeBSD/Linux Full deterministc? If Linux/BSD do manage garbage collection, it's not full deterministc. What happens if you have to service to a serial port request and the kernel is performming memory related actions! Garbage collection cannot be interruped! You lose the information that's arriving at the serial port........ linux were not desgined to be reail time! So, don't use it. Again: try something like QNX/Neutrino (http://www.qnx.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 14: 0:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bico-de-lacre.iqm.unicamp.br (bico-de-lacre.iqm.unicamp.br [143.106.51.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4767037BC34 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:00:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from atabraga@bico-de-lacre.iqm.unicamp.br) Received: by bico-de-lacre.iqm.unicamp.br (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 005D9197D; Mon, 8 May 2000 18:00:36 -0300 (EST) Subject: Re: FreeBSD as a real-time solution? In-Reply-To: <3916FE19.DF7E47C4@tdnet.com.br> from Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios at "May 8, 2000 05:49:13 pm" To: kernel@tdnet.com.br (Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 18:00:36 -0300 (EST) Cc: clabrown@granitepost.com (Clarence Brown), freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20000508210036.005D9197D@bico-de-lacre.iqm.unicamp.br> From: atabraga@bico-de-lacre.iqm.unicamp.br (Ataualpa Albert Carmo Braga) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Maybe that will be better discussed in advocacy... Ata. > Clarence Brown wrote: > > > > I'm not a FreeBSD expert, but in "Dr. Dobb's Journal" #310 March 2000 > > (www.ddj.com) there is an article title "Real-Time Linux" that discusses 2 > > projects to bring real time to Linux. Perhaps these might also be applied to > > FreeBSD? > > > > Also, define "precise time measurements". What is the rate and granularity > > that you need? If your DOS system is "working", why do you want to "fix" it? > > > > > > Mentioned in the article: > > > > RTLinux > > at http://www.rtlinux.org, > > > > Real Time Application Interface, (an offshoot of RTLinux with better > > timers?) > > at http://www.aero.polimi.it/projects/rtai > > > > Cla. > > > The solutions for real-time needs should be design from scratch! > Where linux designed to be real time OS? I guess no! Real Time solution > requires a total different approach than the classic kernel model used > by Free/Open/Linux, etc...... > > That's not only the point! What about the correctness of the code? How > can prove that it kernel is full deterministc ? Is FreeBSD/Linux Full > deterministc? If Linux/BSD do manage garbage collection, it's not full > deterministc. What happens if you have to service to a serial port > request and the kernel is performming memory related actions! Garbage > collection cannot be interruped! You lose the information that's > arriving at the serial port........ > > linux were not desgined to be reail time! So, don't use it. > Again: try something like QNX/Neutrino (http://www.qnx.com) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 14: 3: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cortex.NSMA.Arizona.EDU (cortex.NSMA.Arizona.EDU [128.196.180.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C2537B663; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:02:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ddw@cortex.NSMA.Arizona.EDU) Received: from cortex (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cortex.NSMA.Arizona.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.5) with ESMTP id OAA17706; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:15:36 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200005082115.OAA17706@cortex.NSMA.Arizona.EDU> Reply-To: ddw@NSMA.Arizona.EDU X-Mailer: nmh - The "True to Unix" mail handler To: Mitch Collinsworth Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with 36GB SCSI drives... In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 May 2000 16:14:17 -0400." <200005082014.QAA70043@larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 14:15:36 -0700 From: Doug Wellington Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Previously: >[NT] >NO, anything but that! Yeah... That's what *I* said... >I hope you won't feel insulted if I ask if you've made extra certain >that you don't have 2 devices using the same scsi address. Not just >by looking at the switch or jumper settings, but reading through the >boot messages to make sure they're all registering differently. No insult at all. I'm actually hoping it's something really stupid that I'm doing wrong! As for the scsi addresses, I set the jumpers myself, watched as each Adaptec board probed its address range and listed the drives it found during boot and then checked the logs. I even scribbled a little matrix out with the adapters and scsi id numbers and checked each one off... I originally had the scsi cards in different slots, but I thought there was an IRQ problem, (you know, the AGP slot shares an IRQ with PCI slot #1 kinda thAng) so I swapped cards around and I don't think that's an issue... Hmmmm, funny thing is that when I had the 2940 in slot #1, I was able to get all the way to using vinum and trying the "init" command before it failed... >Maybe >even try disconnecting power from the ones not currently being used to >see if that gets you through disklabel. Yeah, I'm down to where I have one external case turned on (with three drives in it. The other drives are turned off. After lunch, I guess I'll just open that case up and pull the power off of the other two drives. After that, I guess I'll have to try putting one of the disks on the internal SCSI connector... [Drumming fingers] I'm wondering if it's the motherboard... Wish I had another one to test. (I have tried different 2940U2W boards already.) >And double-check termination and cabling distance rules. FWIW, the light on the active terminator is on. I only have a three foot cable going from the computer to the external box... >(Somehow this doesn't sound like the sort of thing NT is going to solve.) Well, the weird thing is that just for grins, I DID boot up NT once and I was able to see and format one of the external disks... That was one of my first attempts to get past that boot up error message, before I started using the built in (ctrl-A) adaptec formatting routines. (Since I couldn't boot from the FreeBSD CD or the internal hard disk, I had to try something to get rid of the partitions on the disk...) The problem is that since NT worked, that makes me wonder if it is the motherboard after all...? Is there a disk size limit with FreeBSD? Is 36 GB too big? SIGH... Thanks, -Doug -- Doug Wellington System and Network Administrator ddw@nsma.arizona.edu The University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ, USA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 14:11:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 434F737B663 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:11:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfuchs@uniserve.com) Received: from ws6.office.uniserve.ca ([204.244.161.229] helo=ws6) by mail2.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12ouoP-000DA3-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 08 May 2000 14:11:33 -0700 Message-ID: <016701bfb932$24b665e0$e5a1f4cc@office.uniserve.ca> From: "David Fuchs" To: Subject: VIPW error 126 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 14:12:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --Regarding FreeBSD-3.4-Stable-- I'm having a little trouble when using vipw to modify my master.passwd file. Before I continue, this is the output I'm receiving: vipw: pico: Unknown error: 126 vipw: /etc/master.passwd: unchanged I've got my EDITOR variable set to pico, but vi produces the same result. I receive the result whether I modify the master.passwd file or not.. I can still use pwd_mkdb to compile the master.password database, but that doesn't mean that I'm about to give up on vipw. I haven't made any major changes to the system that I can recall, the problem started after a recent reboot. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ -David Fuchs ICQ#: 28919790 Email: dfuchs@uniserve.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 14:19:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu (larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu [128.84.247.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707EE37B5DC; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:19:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mkc@larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu) Received: from larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu (mkc@localhost) by larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA70490; Mon, 8 May 2000 17:19:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mkc@larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu) Message-Id: <200005082119.RAA70490@larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu> To: ddw@NSMA.Arizona.EDU Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with 36GB SCSI drives... In-Reply-To: Message from Doug Wellington of "Mon, 08 May 2000 14:15:36 PDT." <200005082115.OAA17706@cortex.NSMA.Arizona.EDU> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 17:19:20 -0400 From: Mitch Collinsworth Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Is there a disk size limit with FreeBSD? Is 36 GB too big? No I don't think it's that. I have 2 50 GB drives on a 2940u2w running just fine under FBSD 3.4. There have been some problems with large disks but so far they've all been with ATA. I was about to ask why you need 2 controllers for 7 disks but I think I see why you did that. Just for grins though it might be interesting to see if pulling one controller and putting them all on the same bus would make things happier. -Mitch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 14:32:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nscache2.x-treme.gr (mail1.x-treme.gr [212.120.196.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120CF37BCCA for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:32:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from hades.hell.gr (pat23.x-treme.gr [212.120.197.215]) by nscache2.x-treme.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3/IPNG-ADV-ANTISPAM-0.1) with SMTP id AAA24065 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 00:32:13 +0300 Received: (qmail 97926 invoked by uid 1000); 8 May 2000 21:32:25 -0000 Message-ID: <20000508213225.97925.qmail@hades.hell.gr> From: "Giorgos Keramidas" Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 00:32:25 +0300 To: Thomas Good Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP succeeds...DNS fails References: <20000507211317.A69306@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from tomg@mailhost.nrnet.org on Mon, May 08, 2000 at 03:32:43PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 03:32:43PM -0400, Thomas Good wrote: > > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > localhost localhost UH 0 2180 lo0 > 999.999.999/99 link#1 UC 0 0 xl0 > box1 0:a0:24:9a:1a:53 UHLW 1 10668 xl0 703 > box2 0:c0:d:1:c:1b UHLW 1 82304 xl0 954 > ns1.public.net gw.public.net UGHS 0 47 tun0 > ns2.public.net gw.public.net UGHS 0 10 tun0 > gw.public.net doofus.dialup.acce UH 2 0 tun0 The problem is here... Where is your default route? I know that you have 'default' in your ppp.conf, but this does not seem to work for you. Someone with more user-PPP knowledge here? (Since I'm using kernel ppp and I can't help with this stuff.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 14:35:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rigel.pucrs.br (rigel.pucrs.br [200.132.10.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942D537B617 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:35:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwp@pucrs.br) Received: from pucrs.br (void.pucrs.br [200.132.13.15]) by rigel.pucrs.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA66058 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 18:34:17 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from mwp@pucrs.br) Message-ID: <39173259.87BC5B50@pucrs.br> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 18:32:09 -0300 From: Mauricio Westendorff Pegoraro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: OPL-SAx Sound Board & HP3200 Scanner, help on... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there. I have a OPL-SAx SoundBoard (commercially it's a Genius SoundBoard). I've tried all sorts of configuration: irq from 1 to 10, port from 220 to 538, etc... and it didn't worked. I've tried device pcm0 (as seen on LINT). Didn't work too. I'd like to know if someone else has/had this sound card and how to set it up. I'd appreciate any help. I also would like to know how to set up a parallel scanner. It's a HP 3200. If anyone has some information to share... thanks. Thanks again. And thanks finally. MaurícioWP. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 14:39:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.whtz.com (m8.z100.com [209.73.193.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C0A337BCFC for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:39:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from courtney@whtz.com) Received: by mail.whtz.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.2 (693.3 8-11-1998)) id 852568D9.0075BBD1 ; Mon, 8 May 2000 17:25:57 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: Z100 From: courtney@whtz.com To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <852568D9.0075BB74.00@mail.whtz.com> Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 17:25:56 -0400 Subject: turning closure into serial data Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hey everyone- I am looking for a way to get closure or a voltage to generate serial data- I.E. a box that would take a closure and then spit out a 1, 2, 3, 4, etc based on what terminals the closure came in on.... has anyone done this before?? bernie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 14:39:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oracle.clara.net (oracle.clara.net [195.8.69.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14F037BD50 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:39:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@clara.co.uk) Received: from [195.8.89.56] (helo=myname.my.domain) by oracle.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 12ovE0-0006a9-00; Mon, 8 May 2000 22:38:00 +0100 Received: (from alex@localhost) by myname.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01157; Mon, 8 May 2000 20:24:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from alex) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 20:24:35 +0100 From: Aleksandar Simic To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Mark Ovens , Ryan Moser Subject: Re: Mixer trouble Message-ID: <20000508202434.A1140@frustum.clara.co.uk> References: <20000507204020.A374@frustum.clara.co.uk> <20000508192115.A899@frustum.clara.co.uk> <20000508201243.D233@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000508201243.D233@parish>; from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org on Mon, May 08, 2000 at 08:12:43PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 08:12:43PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 07:21:15PM +0100, Aleksandar Simic wrote: > > > > But what I found confusing was the fact that I had to run: > > > > ./MAKEDEV snd0 > > > > and *not* snd1 despite the fact that this is a pci card. > > > > You are running 4.0 right? Yes. >The behaviour has changed; pcm0 (and therefore snd0) is no longer >reserved for ISA cards. he numbers are assigned in the order the >devices are found. Thanks Mark, I didn't know that. -Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 14:40:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx2.ews.uiuc.edu (mx2.ews.uiuc.edu [130.126.161.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F341137BD13 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:40:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hyunkang@uiuc.edu) Received: from lecor.uiuc.edu (isr4202.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.208.218]) by mx2.ews.uiuc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28099 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 16:40:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000508163801.00c12a30@ews.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: hyunkang@ews.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 16:40:19 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Hyun Gu Kang Subject: setting up sound Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_305044==_.ALT" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --=====================_305044==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I have a soundblaster 128D on my sytem. after creating device snd0, i proceeded to recompile the kernel, but it didn't quite make it because it couldn't link the kernel. it said it could not find the references to the correct drivers. Any help would be appreciated! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Hyun Gu Kang 332-4016 Senior in Chemical Engineering at University of Illinois pre-Biomedical Engineering, NFK 52, 55, 65 "Give! .. Give until it hurts, because real love hurts." -Mother Teresa http://www.prairienet.org/stjohns http://www.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/ph/ns.uiuc.edu?Query=hyun+gu+kang --=====================_305044==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
I have a soundblaster 128D on my sytem.  after creating device snd0, i proceeded to recompile the kernel, but it didn't quite make it because it couldn't link the kernel.  it said it could not find the references to the correct drivers.

Any help would be appreciated!
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Hyun Gu Kang            332-4016
Senior in Chemical Engineering at University of Illinois
pre-Biomedical Engineering, NFK 52, 55, 65

"Give! .. Give until it hurts, because real love hurts."
-Mother Teresa

http://www.prairienet.org/stjohns
http://www.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/ph/ns.uiuc.edu?Query=hyun+gu+kang
--=====================_305044==_.ALT-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 14:50:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oracle.clara.net (oracle.clara.net [195.8.69.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D6B437BCD3 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:50:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from merlin@A470.com) Received: from [212.126.141.238] (helo=A470.com) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 12ovPt-00078V-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 8 May 2000 22:50:18 +0100 Received: (qmail 21000 invoked by uid 1000); 8 May 2000 21:52:44 -0000 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 21:52:44 +0000 From: Darren Wyn Rees To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ppp 'set filter' question Message-ID: <20000508215244.K13317@netlink.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i Organization: A470 X-No-Archive: yes X-PGP-812C54B1: F8 79 5E 84 F0 20 A5 62 FA 2D E9 BD BE 06 7D 10 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've succeeded in getting NAT working with ppp. I haven't configured 'dial on demand' with ppp (-auto etc), as yet. So, I have a simple network... FreeBSD serving other Windows machines, as a gateway (do please correct me if I'm using the term gateway incorrectly here). What I'd like to be able to do is this : 1) give the Windows machine a simple means to determine if the FreeBSD machine is online 2) give the Windows machine a restricted means of 'bringing the link up', ie. connecting to the Net. For (1) I considered configuring a simple finger client to finger a port on the FreeBSD machine which cat-ted a "online" or "offline". But I couldnt' find an MSDOS finger client ! I thought a simple shortcut on the Windows desktop that opened an MSDOS box would suffice. Does this sound reasonable ? I don't want to force users of the Windows machine to launch a large application to find out a tincy little bit of info. For (2), I'm unsure. I understand I can use 'set filter'. I've read the ppp man pages, and the 'Packet Filtering' section (and there was a hint on packet filtering in a sample ppp.conf that came with Walnut Creek CD). I'd like to allow the users of the Windows machines to dial-up by doing something very definite. How do other people solve this one ? Thanks for any useful tips. Darren PS. I'm /very/ impressed with this OS. Putting it lightly. It's a lot of fun. It rocketh. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 15: 0:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from home.offwhite.net (home.offwhite.net [156.46.35.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292C737BD53 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 15:00:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brennan@offwhite.net) Received: from localhost (brennan@localhost) by home.offwhite.net (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA82376; Mon, 8 May 2000 17:00:27 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 17:00:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Brennan W Stehling To: Hyun Gu Kang Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setting up sound In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.2.20000508163801.00c12a30@ews.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Are you sure you want snd0? Read the man page on pcm. That may help you. I am guessing that you have a PCI sound card, and you would use snd1 for that. The man page explains why. Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com Microsoft: Will you get a macro virus today? On Mon, 8 May 2000, Hyun Gu Kang wrote: > > I have a soundblaster 128D on my sytem. after creating device snd0, i > proceeded to recompile the kernel, but it didn't quite make it because it > couldn't link the kernel. it said it could not find the references to the > correct drivers. > > Any help would be appreciated! > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Hyun Gu Kang 332-4016 > Senior in Chemical Engineering at University of Illinois > pre-Biomedical Engineering, NFK 52, 55, 65 > > "Give! .. Give until it hurts, because real love hurts." > -Mother Teresa > > http://www.prairienet.org/stjohns > http://www.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/ph/ns.uiuc.edu?Query=hyun+gu+kang > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 15: 3:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from va.com.au (va.com.au [203.15.106.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33AF437B622 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 15:03:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lizst@va.com.au) Received: from [1.1.1.6] (203.108.21.126) by va.com.au with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.2); Tue, 9 May 2000 07:33:49 +0930 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: lizst@mail.va.com.au Message-Id: Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 08:01:03 +1000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jesse Reynolds Subject: Fujitsu Laptop can't find anything after booting Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I am not a subscriber to freebsd-questions so if you could cc your replies to 'lizst@va.com.au' that would great, thankyou. I've tried 3.4-R and 4.0-R on this Fujitsu 735D laptop I have... I have it dualbooting, with the FreeBSD boot manager, NT 4 is installed in a partition that takes up the first 500Mb of the disk and this boots fine.... I'm now trying to install FreeBSD in a partition that takes up the rest of the disk - a 1.6Gb disk. When I choose "F2 - FreeBSD" from the bootmanager, it boots the kernel fine, going through initialising the devices etc... then the last screen I can see has thing like the following: find: not found date: not found uname: not found cp /etc/motd - not found can't exec getty - /usr/libexec/getty for /dev/ttyv0 can't exec getty - /usr/libexec/getty for /dev/ttyv1 can't exec getty - /usr/libexec/getty for /dev/ttyv2 can't exec getty - /usr/libexec/getty for /dev/ttyv3 can't exec getty - /usr/libexec/getty for /dev/ttyv4 can't exec getty - /usr/libexec/getty for /dev/ttyv5 can't exec getty - /usr/libexec/getty for /dev/ttyv6 can't exec getty - /usr/libexec/getty for /dev/ttyv7 so I'm wondering what's going on! I tried to have only one FreeBSD slice within it's 'dos partition'. Perhaps I have to have a separate /usr partition? Perhaps some of these executables have to be in the first 500Mb of the disk... any help would be greatly appreciated.. once again, this is what happens straight after the install, on the first boot, and there appears no getting around it but to try and reinstall again which doesn't work either... perhaps I should boot up of a rescue floppy and try and work out what's going wrong that way? cheers jesse -- Jesse Reynolds - Virtual Artists Pty Ltd - http://www.va.com.au Email: jesse (at) va.com.au - http://virtual.artists -- -- Jesse Reynolds - Virtual Artists Pty Ltd - http://www.va.com.au Email: jesse (at) va.com.au - http://virtual.artists To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 15:32:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A9737BA9D for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 15:32:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.18]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 8 May 2000 15:37:03 -0700 Message-ID: <39174057.FFB18636@3-cities.com> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 15:31:51 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Darren Wyn Rees Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ppp 'set filter' question References: <20000508215244.K13317@netlink.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Darren Wyn Rees wrote: > > I've succeeded in getting NAT working with ppp. > > I haven't configured 'dial on demand' with ppp (-auto etc), as yet. > > So, I have a simple network... FreeBSD serving other Windows machines, > as a gateway (do please correct me if I'm using the term gateway > incorrectly here). > > What I'd like to be able to do is this : > > 1) give the Windows machine a simple means to determine > if the FreeBSD machine is online > > 2) give the Windows machine a restricted means of 'bringing the link up', > ie. connecting to the Net. > > For (1) I considered configuring a simple finger client to > finger a port on the FreeBSD machine which cat-ted a "online" > or "offline". But I couldnt' find an MSDOS finger client ! > I thought a simple shortcut on the Windows desktop that opened > an MSDOS box would suffice. Does this sound reasonable ? > I don't want to force users of the Windows machine to launch > a large application to find out a tincy little bit of info. > > For (2), I'm unsure. I understand I can use 'set filter'. > I've read the ppp man pages, and the 'Packet Filtering' section > (and there was a hint on packet filtering in a sample ppp.conf > that came with Walnut Creek CD). I'd like to allow the > users of the Windows machines to dial-up by doing something > very definite. How do other people solve this one ? Personally, I setup user-ppp to auto start in the background, nat, and demand dial. I currently have a runppp.sh in .../rc.d. I usually ping my ISP and it dials. I use an alias to ping -n 10 -w 10000 my.isp.com. Unless there is a problem of some sort, I start getting a response on the 3rd ping. If it times out completely, something is going on and I go down to my gateway computer with the modem to see and hear what is happening. I use user-ppp because it is easy to drop, dial, and quit all using pppctl. Kent > > Thanks for any useful tips. > > Darren > > PS. I'm /very/ impressed with this OS. Putting it lightly. > It's a lot of fun. It rocketh. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 15:38:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from charon.khoral.com (charon.khoral.com [209.75.155.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7353A37B91B; Mon, 8 May 2000 15:38:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@khoral.com) Received: from zen.alb.khoral.com by charon.khoral.com via smtpd (for hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) with SMTP; 8 May 2000 22:38:08 UT Received: from benson (benson.alb.khoral.com [10.1.2.11]) by zen.alb.khoral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07052; Mon, 8 May 2000 16:37:39 -0600 (MDT) From: Steve Jorgensen Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 16:37:29 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200005082237.QAA29923@benson> To: ddw@NSMA.Arizona.EDU Cc: Mitch Collinsworth , freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with 36GB SCSI drives... Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Yeah, I'm down to where I have one external case turned on (with three > drives in it. The other drives are turned off. After lunch, I guess I'll > just open that case up and pull the power off of the other two drives. After > that, I guess I'll have to try putting one of the disks on the internal > SCSI connector... You don't by chance have devices connected to both internal connectors AND something connected to the external connector? I don't have a u2w, but my adaptec 2940uw says you can't do that. Of course that little fact is buried in the small print of their manual, but I have had experience myself where things would look like their working and then just flake out after it ran for a while. Hope this helps.. Steve ----------------------------------------------------------- Steven Jorgensen steve@khoral.com steve@spukhaus.com ------------------------------+---------------------------- Khoral Research Inc. | PHONE: (505) 837-6500 6200 Uptown Blvd, Suite 200 | FAX: (505) 881-3842 Albuquerque, NM 87110 | URL: http://www.khoral.com/ ----------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 15:56:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from team7.cba.ualr.edu (team7.cba.ualr.edu [144.167.120.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36A937B5E8 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 15:56:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@team7.cba.ualr.edu) Received: from access29.mod1.ualr.edu (access29.mod1.ualr.edu [144.167.7.29]) by team7.cba.ualr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA10321; Mon, 8 May 2000 17:56:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from joe@team7.cba.ualr.edu) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 17:56:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Joe Royce X-Sender: joe@njal.valhalla.org To: William Woods Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Make World on a DEC Alpha dies..... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It appears that in /usr/src/sys/modules/Makefile, syscons was moved to the general case when it shouldn't have been. Last I heard, there was no support for (u)random for the Alpha. I may be wrong in this, however. HTH, Joe On Mon, 8 May 2000, William Woods wrote: > > Running 4.0-stable on a DEC Alpha I get the following with todays cvsup: > > ----------------------------------------------- > mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc > -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/blank/.. -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- > -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/blank/.. -I. -I@ -I@/../include > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include > /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/blank/blank_saver.c > ===> sys/modules/syscons/daemon > @ -> /usr/src/sys > machine -> /usr/src/sys/alpha/include > rm -f .depend > mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc > -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/daemon/.. -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- > -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/daemon/.. -I. -I@ -I@/../include > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include > /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/daemon/daemon_saver.c > ===> sys/modules/syscons/fade > @ -> /usr/src/sys > machine -> /usr/src/sys/alpha/include > rm -f .depend > mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc > -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fade/.. -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- > -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fade/.. -I. -I@ -I@/../include > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include > /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fade/fade_saver.c > ===> sys/modules/syscons/fire > @ -> /usr/src/sys > machine -> /usr/src/sys/alpha/include > rm -f .depend > mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc > -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fire/.. -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- > -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fire/.. -I. -I@ -I@/../include > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include > /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fire/fire_saver.c > /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fire/fire_saver.c:44: machine/random.h: No > such file or directory > mkdep: compile failed > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fire. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. > *** Error code 1 > > > --------------------------------- > anyone have any ideas, suggestions? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > NOTICE TO BULK E-MAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, > Subchapter II, 227, and all unsolicited commercial e-mail sent to this > address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 16: 1:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5F237B9DC for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 16:01:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12ouLY-000N3x-00; Mon, 08 May 2000 21:41:44 +0100 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.12 #7) id 12ouLX-000Kj7-00; Mon, 08 May 2000 21:41:43 +0100 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 21:41:43 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Kent Stewart Cc: Joerg Schilling , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cdrecord, freebsd and atapi cd-writers Message-ID: <20000508214143.B55455@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <200005081849.UAA17542@fokus.gmd.de> <3917142C.2F4000FE@3-cities.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <3917142C.2F4000FE@3-cities.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kent Stewart wrote: > I have a clean version 4.0 and I don't have any scripts in the atapi > directory. Perhaps they were removed, FreeBSD 4 has burncd so those scripts aren't really needed AFAIK. Joerg, sorry for my harsh tone earlier, I guess I got a little too annoyed. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@scientia.demon.co.uk / PGP: 0x99392F7D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 16:13:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from watson.ficsgrp.com (watson.ficsgrp.com [194.74.111.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7AFB37B614 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 16:13:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from harry.woodward-clarke@s1.com) Received: from mail.au.ficsgrp.com ([194.74.111.35]) by watson.ficsgrp.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA385A for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 01:13:12 +0200 Received: from S1.com ([172.16.48.219]) by mail.au.ficsgrp.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id 741; Tue, 9 May 2000 09:17:19 +1000 Message-ID: <39174A35.7FC8F4B6@S1.com> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 23:13:57 +0000 From: Harry Woodward-Clarke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael MacKinnon Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Install Hell... References: <000f01bfb8be$67490940$92597318@rct1.bc.wave.home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG G'day Michael, > > Thanks for the quick response. > > As I mentioned below, I've already tried three different HDs, > though. > (10GB, 4GB, and 400MB) > > Are you familiar with Award BIOS (circa 1998)? Is there some > funky > setting that has to be shut off before Linux or FreeBSD can put > their > file system on it? Not personally ;') but something you might like to check for is "Virus Protect" or "Read Only Boot Sector" or something like that. During the early to mid 90's there was a spate of Boot Virii doing the rounds, and one of the 'simple' methods of slowing them down (it never really stopped them) was to add a switch in the BIOS to 'write protect' the boot track. This assumed that all writes to that area of the disk would go via the BIOS calls, which OS installs usually do. Thus, the nasty stuff out there knows about this, and bypasses the BIOS calls and heads directly for the disk controller, whereas the Install programs remain as generic as they can and go via the BIOS calls. There may also be a setting for 'Plug-and-P[r|l]ay Operating System', turn this 'off'. Another option that might be there is "DOS OS or Non-DOS", set to non-DOS. > Is there a particular geometry that I have to use (LBA, CHS (or > normal), > or Large settings) for the hard drive? FreeBSD Install seems to > find the > normal settings > just after kernel configuration but displays the LBA settings in > the screen > that partitions the disk. As best I can see, FreeBSD doesn't really care. So long as the root partition is within the first 1024 cylinders of the first drive, it will start. Once it's up and running, it 'ignores' pretty much what the BIOS tells it about the disks and relys on the disks themselves to tell it about them (well, that's as I understand it - I'm open to correction ;') Of course, there are some limitations with this, viz. old 386/486 BIOSs with large (>>8GB) drives. But even then, it's not all lost. Failing all that, it's entirely possible that your disk controller is stuffed, although before I chucked it, I'd put in a different (brand new) cable. You've already done some hardware checking, the drives - unless all three are stuffed - appear to probably be ok. That leaves the BIOS (which we're playing with above), the disk-controller and the cable connecting them all together. Change one thing at a time and eventually you'll find it. Best of luck, Harry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 16:38:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ptldpop3.ptld.uswest.net (ptldpop3.ptld.uswest.net [198.36.160.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A5FF337BA15 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 16:38:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bwoods2@uswest.net) Received: (qmail 91819 invoked by alias); 8 May 2000 23:35:32 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG@fixme Received: (qmail 91797 invoked by uid 0); 8 May 2000 23:35:32 -0000 Received: from alpha.uswest.net (63.227.213.92) by ptldpop3.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 8 May 2000 23:35:32 -0000 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 16:39:39 -0700 (PDT) From: William Woods Reply-To: bwoods2@uswest.net To: Joe Royce Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Make World on a DEC Alpha dies..... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK, so the fix for this is? ------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTICE TO BULK E-MAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, and all unsolicited commercial e-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US On Mon, 8 May 2000, Joe Royce wrote: > It appears that in /usr/src/sys/modules/Makefile, syscons was moved to the > general case when it shouldn't have been. Last I heard, there was no > support for (u)random for the Alpha. I may be wrong in this, however. > > HTH, Joe > > On Mon, 8 May 2000, William Woods wrote: > > > > > Running 4.0-stable on a DEC Alpha I get the following with todays cvsup: > > > > ----------------------------------------------- > > mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc > > -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/blank/.. -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- > > -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/blank/.. -I. -I@ -I@/../include > > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include > > /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/blank/blank_saver.c > > ===> sys/modules/syscons/daemon > > @ -> /usr/src/sys > > machine -> /usr/src/sys/alpha/include > > rm -f .depend > > mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc > > -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/daemon/.. -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- > > -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/daemon/.. -I. -I@ -I@/../include > > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include > > /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/daemon/daemon_saver.c > > ===> sys/modules/syscons/fade > > @ -> /usr/src/sys > > machine -> /usr/src/sys/alpha/include > > rm -f .depend > > mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc > > -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fade/.. -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- > > -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fade/.. -I. -I@ -I@/../include > > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include > > /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fade/fade_saver.c > > ===> sys/modules/syscons/fire > > @ -> /usr/src/sys > > machine -> /usr/src/sys/alpha/include > > rm -f .depend > > mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc > > -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fire/.. -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- > > -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fire/.. -I. -I@ -I@/../include > > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include > > /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fire/fire_saver.c > > /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fire/fire_saver.c:44: machine/random.h: No > > such file or directory > > mkdep: compile failed > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fire. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > anyone have any ideas, suggestions? > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > NOTICE TO BULK E-MAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, > > Subchapter II, 227, and all unsolicited commercial e-mail sent to this > > address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 16:47:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx.emailqueue.net (mx0.emailqueue.net [209.240.140.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7433537BA15 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 16:47:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gunnar@paganlibrary.com) Received: from mx0.emailqueue.net (209.75.4.21) by mx.emailqueue.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA23299 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 16:47:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gunnar@paganlibrary.com) Received: from gunnar.weygold.edu (pool0366.cvx4-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.178.147.111]) by mx0.emailqueue.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA96693 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 16:47:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Gunnar H Reichert-Weygold Organization: The Pagan Library To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cdrecord, freebsd and atapi cd-writers Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 16:44:28 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain References: <200005081849.UAA17542@fokus.gmd.de> <3917142C.2F4000FE@3-cities.com> <20000508214143.B55455@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20000508214143.B55455@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00050816460400.00619@gunnar.weygold.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have an Acer CD-RW. Burned 4 data CD's yesterday with Burncd, going to try audio today or tomorrow. BTW, the data cd's read just fine under Windoze... On Mon, 08 May 2000, Ben Smithurst wrote: > Kent Stewart wrote: > > > I have a clean version 4.0 and I don't have any scripts in the atapi > > directory. > > Perhaps they were removed, FreeBSD 4 has burncd so those scripts aren't > really needed AFAIK. > > Joerg, sorry for my harsh tone earlier, I guess I got a little too > annoyed. > > -- > Ben Smithurst / ben@scientia.demon.co.uk / PGP: 0x99392F7D > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- (invisible tagline -- send money for special glasses!) Gunnar H Reichert-Weygold The Pagan Library http://www.paganlibrary.com --------------------------- FreeBSD 3.4----------PalmOS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 16:51:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CA3837B59A for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 16:51:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id JAA75315; Tue, 9 May 2000 09:21:21 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 09:21:21 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Pieter Westland Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum and dump Message-ID: <20000509092121.C75157@freebie.lemis.com> References: <20000508143856.A16223@support.euronet.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <20000508143856.A16223@support.euronet.nl> Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 8 May 2000 at 14:38:56 +0200, Pieter Westland wrote: > Hi, > > Since I upgraded my machine from 3.4-STABLE to 4.0-STABLE, it does not > dump my vinum-stripe anymore: > > root@dustpuppy [/usrbackup> /sbin/dump -0ua -f /usrbackup/backupje /usr > DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Mon May 8 14:34:45 2000 > DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch > DUMP: Dumping /dev/vinum/rstripe (/usr) to /usrbackup/backupje > DUMP: Cannot open /dev/vinum/rstripe Hmm. I thought this had been fixed in -STABLE. It's a problem with dump, not with Vinum: dump iss still looking for the old names beginning in 'r'. The easiest thing you can do is to create the device: # ln /dev/vinum/stripe /dev/vinum/rstripe You'll have to do this again every time you start vinum, because vinum rebuilds the /dev/vinum directory. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 17: 0:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CDA137B59A for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 17:00:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id JAA75396; Tue, 9 May 2000 09:29:56 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 09:29:56 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Adam Hefetz Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /var Message-ID: <20000509092955.D75157@freebie.lemis.com> References: <20000508155751.1245.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <20000508155751.1245.qmail@hotmail.com> Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 8 May 2000 at 15:57:50 +0000, Adam Hefetz wrote: > Hi everyone, > I tried to move the /var directory like it says in the file book.txt with > the following commands: > > # mkdir /usr/var > # cd /var > # tar cf - . | (cd /usr/var; tar xf - ) > # cd / > # rm -rf /var > # ln -s /usr/var /var > > the problem is that whem I type the rm -rf /var command it says: > > rm: /var: Device busy Looks like you have /var mounted on a separate file system. If you want to keep that file system, you might as well forget copying to /usr. Otherwise umount /var first, then you'll be able to delete it. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 17: 6:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lh2.rdc1.tx.home.com (ha2.rdc1.tx.home.com [24.4.0.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D7837BCA6 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 17:06:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jasonfried@home.com) Received: from c784528a ([24.4.45.95]) by lh2.rdc1.tx.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with ESMTP id <20000509000609.OMCM25186.lh2.rdc1.tx.home.com@c784528a> for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 17:06:09 -0700 Message-ID: <000501bfb94a$98095490$5f2d0418@btnrug1.la.home.com> From: "Jason Fried" To: Subject: Network interface aliases Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 19:07:41 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am running a FreeBSD 3.4 release server. and ive notices that it is randomly making alias of ep0, with what looks to be a random ip from my class C. ep0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 199.233.131.99 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 199.233.131.255 ether 00:60:8c:84:f2:d7 then a second later ep0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 199.233.131.99 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 199.233.131.255 inet 199.233.131.200 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 199.233.131.200 ether 00:60:8c:84:f2:d7 its been doing that all day long, with different ips, from my subnet. Ive killed off all programs, to see if i had something running that was doing it, but it still happend. Do you have any idea what could be causing this to happen? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 17:20:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 862FC37BC90 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 17:20:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (john [10.0.0.2]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA03872; Mon, 8 May 2000 20:20:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200005090020.UAA03872@server.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 20:20:34 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: William Woods Subject: Re: Make World on a DEC Alpha dies..... Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, Joe Royce Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 08-May-00 William Woods wrote: > OK, so the fix for this is? Just hack /sys/modules/syscons/Makefile to not build fire (and I think rain) on the Alpha. You can look at the treatment of the apm/ subdirectory to see how this is done. > On Mon, 8 May 2000, Joe Royce wrote: > >> It appears that in /usr/src/sys/modules/Makefile, syscons was moved to the >> general case when it shouldn't have been. Last I heard, there was no >> support for (u)random for the Alpha. I may be wrong in this, however. >> >> HTH, Joe -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 17:20:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D37A37BC60; Mon, 8 May 2000 17:20:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (john [10.0.0.2]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA03868; Mon, 8 May 2000 20:20:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200005090020.UAA03868@server.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 20:20:32 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Joe Royce , obrien@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Make World on a DEC Alpha dies..... Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, William Woods Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 08-May-00 Joe Royce wrote: > It appears that in /usr/src/sys/modules/Makefile, syscons was moved to the > general case when it shouldn't have been. Last I heard, there was no > support for (u)random for the Alpha. I may be wrong in this, however. It's supported in -current I think. And I tested the syscons screen savers personally before the commit was made. All of the non-graphical ones work fine. We need to either take fire (and rain) out of the Alpha build in RELENG_4 or MFC the /dev/random support to fix -stable, though. David? > HTH, Joe -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 17:53:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from quartz.nbnet.nb.ca (mailserv.nbnet.nb.ca [198.164.200.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D15137BA18 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 17:53:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marco@nbnet.nb.ca) Received: from [10.162.2.84] ([142.166.198.20]) by quartz.nbnet.nb.ca (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-66826U105000L105000S0V35) with ESMTP id ca; Mon, 8 May 2000 21:53:14 -0300 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 21:51:42 -0300 (ADT) From: Marco Shaw X-Sender: marco@localhost.localdomain To: David Heller Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vmware question In-Reply-To: <3917187D.8E6D07D7@rochester.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You will have to enable it in your kernel. Since VMWare works on top of the kernel itself, it must support the protocols you want to use within a guest system. The same would apply with IPSec, for example. Marco On Mon, 8 May 2000, David Heller wrote: > Hi > > I recently installed vmware for FreeBSD 4.0 stable. I currently have > one 4gig scsi drive devoted entirely to Freebsd. what I would like to do > is install windows 98 on a seperate ide drive. However I currently have > no support for ide drives installed in my kernel. Will vmware see a ide > drive (i have it enabled in my bios)even though my kernel won't > recognise it.Or will I have to enable it in my kernel? > > Thanks > > Dave > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 18:10:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nwcst316.netaddress.usa.net (nwcst316.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.23.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E29BB37BA33 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 18:10:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eduhuertas@usa.net) Received: (qmail 140 invoked by uid 60001); 9 May 2000 01:10:46 -0000 Message-ID: <20000509011046.139.qmail@nwcst316.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.23.61 by nwcst316 for [209.198.244.41] via web-mailer(M3.4.0.33) on Tue May 9 01:10:45 GMT 2000 Date: 8 May 00 19:10:45 CST From: Eduardo Huertas To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: kde doesn't start X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.4.0.33) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I've just upgraded to FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE and KDE 1.1.2 and this is the message I get when I try to run KDE: /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libstdc++.so.3" not found I have deinstalled kde 1.1.1 and installed kde 1.1.2 several times in the= order that the documentation from www.kde.org recommends, but the same symptom. I looked at the archive lists but even though there are question= s about the same, didn't find an answer. How can I install "libstdc++.so.3" or what am I missing? Please help. Best regards, ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 18:21:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FB737B58F for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 18:21:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lowell@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com (lowell@world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by europe.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA06927 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 21:21:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from lowell@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA09092; Mon, 8 May 2000 21:21:08 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: setting up sound References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 08 May 2000 21:21:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: Brennan W Stehling's message of Mon, 8 May 2000 17:00:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Lines: 40 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brennan W Stehling writes: > Are you sure you want snd0? > > Read the man page on pcm. That may help you. I am guessing that you have > a PCI sound card, and you would use snd1 for that. The man page explains > why. > That's not true any more on 3.x or later. Furthermore, it is completely unrelated to why the kernel wasn't linking, so it's not helpful in any case. Of course, we really can't help the original poster without some details of what actually fails to work... > > On Mon, 8 May 2000, Hyun Gu Kang wrote: > > > > > I have a soundblaster 128D on my sytem. after creating device snd0, i > > proceeded to recompile the kernel, but it didn't quite make it because it > > couldn't link the kernel. it said it could not find the references to the > > correct drivers. > > > > Any help would be appreciated! > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Hyun Gu Kang 332-4016 > > Senior in Chemical Engineering at University of Illinois > > pre-Biomedical Engineering, NFK 52, 55, 65 > > > > "Give! .. Give until it hurts, because real love hurts." > > -Mother Teresa > > > > http://www.prairienet.org/stjohns > > http://www.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/ph/ns.uiuc.edu?Query=hyun+gu+kang > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 18:52:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from newmail.spectraweb.ch (newmail.spectraweb.ch [194.158.230.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1722337BD3B for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 18:52:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flaviocu@swix.ch) Received: from u-turn.noway.org (194.230.210.19) by newmail.spectraweb.ch for ; 9 May 2000 03:52:31 +0200 Message-ID: <39176f5f39194a19@newmail.spectraweb.ch> (added by newmail.spectraweb.ch) Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 From: flaviocu@swix.ch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: flaviocu@swix.ch Subject: atapi-cd-changer under 4.0-release X-Mailer: CSCMail v1.6.0 Date: 09 May 2000 03:52:25 CEST Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi i have a 4xatapi cd-changer... it get's detected by freebsd-4.0: May 8 06:03:53 noway /kernel: acd0-3: CDROM with 4 CD changer at ata1-master using PIO3 i MAKEDEV'd /dev/acd1-3... but when i try to mount cdroms from anything else than acd0 i get: cd9660: Device not configured... from reading the atapicd source it looks like changer devices are supported... any help is appreciated & thanks Flavio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 18:58:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.lig.bellsouth.net (mail4.lig.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F0B137BD67 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 18:58:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tymbrwlf@bellsouth.net) Received: from tymbrwlf (host-216-76-250-137.pns.bellsouth.net [216.76.250.137]) by mail4.lig.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with SMTP id VAA01109 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 21:58:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <007301bfb959$c60864d0$0200a8c0@tymbrwlf> From: "TymbrWlf" To: "Freebsd Questions" References: <20000506002431.80314.qmail@hotmail.com> <20000506003209.30255.qmail@hades.hell.gr> Subject: Re: Clear Screen Before Logout Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 20:56:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Would there be a good way to set up an alias for that command under the csh shell? If I put "alias cya clear ; logout" in my .cshrc file, I get put into a login loop. How would I put multiple commands into an alias? (i.e. clear and logout, ls and pwd, etc). Just a basic question. "The Complete FreeBSD" is a little lean on aliases and shell scripting (no offense to Grey Lehey meant at all;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Giorgos Keramidas" To: "Robert B" Cc: Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 7:32 PM Subject: Re: Clear Screen Before Logout > On Sat, May 06, 2000 at 12:24:31AM +0000, Robert B wrote: > > Whats the best way to clear the terminal screen after a log out so that > > login: is the only thing on the screen. > > I usually log out with: > > % clear ; logout > > and that pretty much does this for me :) > > - giorgos keramidas > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 19:11:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (adsl-216-102-90-210.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.102.90.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1126A37B78D for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 19:11:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hacker@bolingbroke.com) Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (fremont.bolingbroke.com [216.102.90.210]) by fremont.bolingbroke.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA02477; Mon, 8 May 2000 19:11:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 19:11:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Bolingbroke To: Freebsd Questions Cc: TymbrWlf Subject: Re: Clear Screen Before Logout In-Reply-To: <007301bfb959$c60864d0$0200a8c0@tymbrwlf> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 8 May 2000, TymbrWlf wrote: > Would there be a good way to set up an alias for that command under the csh > shell? If I put "alias cya clear ; logout" in my .cshrc file, I get put > into a login loop. How would I put multiple commands into an alias? (i.e. You'll want to quote the alias part, otherwise csh is interpreting the ';' as the end of your command statement, this "logout" becomes the next command statement, and it does exactly that. Ex: alias cya 'clear ; logout' Me, I just put 'clear' in my /etc/csh.logout file... Ken Bolingbroke hacker@bolingbroke.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 19:23:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [194.221.183.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4276637BAD3 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 19:23:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robd@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 604 invoked by uid 0); 9 May 2000 02:23:07 -0000 Received: from p3e9ebfc5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (HELO gmx.net) (62.158.191.197) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 9 May 2000 02:23:07 -0000 Message-ID: <3917757E.2109A1BA@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 04:18:38 +0200 From: Robert Drehmel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: e-mail addresses Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi there! Can you tell me how i can get such a "@freebsd.org" e-mail address, or in other words, how much must i contribute to the FreeBSD Project ? -- Robert Drehmel ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Language shapes the way we think, and determines what we can think about - B.L. Whorf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 19:23:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bastion.energex.com.au (bastion.energex.com.au [147.209.142.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7D337B632 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 19:23:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pc012@energex.com.au) Received: by bastion.energex.com.au; (8.8.8/GJW030998a) id MAA15674; Tue, 9 May 2000 12:23:05 +1000 (EST) Received: from newman.energex.com.au(147.209.206.13) by bastion.energex.com.au via smap (smtp gateway apd20000403a) id xmaa12537; Tue, 9 May 00 12:22:44 +1000 Received: from dux.seqeb.gov.au (unverified) by newman.seqeb.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.2) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 12:22:42 +1000 Received: from ntco99.seqeb.gov.au by dux.seqeb.gov.au (8.8.8/apd19991206a) id MAA0000007024; Tue, 9 May 2000 12:22:42 +1000 (EST) Received: by ntco99.seqeb.gov.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 9 May 2000 12:22:41 +1000 Message-ID: From: COLLINS Patrick To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Problems with Serial Console and Swapinfo Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 12:22:41 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am running 4.0-RELEASE on a very standard desktop machine. It is installed in a computer room and has no keyboard or mouse but does have a video card but this is not connected to a monitor. I have a terminal connected to sio0 and have a /boot.config file with the following single line entry: 0:ad(0,a) kernel -P When I boot with this configuration the serial console works correctly but the command swapinfo returns: swapinfo: undefined symbol: _numvnodes and the command top returns: top: nlist failed If I remove the /boot.config file to disable the serial console the commands swapinfo and top operate as expected. Any help with this problem would be appreciated. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 19:31:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail3.lig.bellsouth.net (mail3.lig.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7451B37BDB8 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 19:31:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tymbrwlf@bellsouth.net) Received: from tymbrwlf (host-216-76-250-137.pns.bellsouth.net [216.76.250.137]) by mail3.lig.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with SMTP id WAA22692 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 22:30:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001901bfb95e$61dfe230$0200a8c0@tymbrwlf> From: "TymbrWlf" To: "Freebsd Questions" References: Subject: Re: Clear Screen Before Logout Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 21:29:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks, that was the ticket. I just started learning about aliases and scripts so that was my first impulse. Putting that in the csh.logout file works like a charm. I totally forgot about all of the stuff in /etc. I bought "UNIX secrets" by James C. Armstrong, Jr. and it's been very helpful (so was "UNIX for Dummies" ;-), but I freely admit I'm a UNIX Dummy). (To Alan; "The Unix C Shell Field Guide" is next on the list.) "UNIX Secrets" is almost 1200 pages long; I need time to digest it ;-) Thanks Larry Hawk tymbrwlf@bellsouth.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Bolingbroke" To: "Freebsd Questions" Cc: "TymbrWlf" Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 9:11 PM Subject: Re: Clear Screen Before Logout > > > On Mon, 8 May 2000, TymbrWlf wrote: > > > Would there be a good way to set up an alias for that command under the csh > > shell? If I put "alias cya clear ; logout" in my .cshrc file, I get put > > into a login loop. How would I put multiple commands into an alias? (i.e. > > You'll want to quote the alias part, otherwise csh is interpreting the ';' > as the end of your command statement, this "logout" becomes the next > command statement, and it does exactly that. Ex: > > alias cya 'clear ; logout' > > Me, I just put 'clear' in my /etc/csh.logout file... > > Ken Bolingbroke > hacker@bolingbroke.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 19:43:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from theory1.physics.iisc.ernet.in (theory1.physics.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.71.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 553F837B689 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 19:43:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in) Received: (qmail 18530 invoked by uid 211); 9 May 2000 02:43:19 -0000 Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 08:13:19 +0530 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Eduardo Huertas Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kde doesn't start Message-ID: <20000509081319.A18510@physics.iisc.ernet.in> Mail-Followup-To: Eduardo Huertas , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000509011046.139.qmail@nwcst316.netaddress.usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000509011046.139.qmail@nwcst316.netaddress.usa.net>; from eduhuertas@usa.net on Mon, May 08, 2000 at 07:10:45PM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 X-Question: Do you enjoy reading pointless headers? Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Eduardo Huertas said on May 8, 2000 at 19:10:45: > Hello, > > I've just upgraded to FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE and KDE 1.1.2 and this is the > message I get when I try to run KDE: > > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libstdc++.so.3" not found > > I have deinstalled kde 1.1.1 and installed kde 1.1.2 several times in the > order that the documentation from www.kde.org recommends, but the same > symptom. I looked at the archive lists but even though there are questions > about the same, didn't find an answer. > > How can I install "libstdc++.so.3" or what am I missing? Did you install kde 1.1.2 from the port? If not, did you install a binary or compile it from source? Rahul. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 19:45:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail14.bigmailbox.com (mail14.bigmailbox.com [209.132.220.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C047337BC0F for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 19:45:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from et@compnerd.net) Received: œby mail14.bigmailbox.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA00558; Mon, 8 May 2000 19:45:22 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 19:45:22 -0700 Message-Id: <200005090245.TAA00558@mail14.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-Ip: [4.33.98.153] From: "Joss Scholten" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: HELP! Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have been reading in to Perl, CGI-Scripts, but into doing so have discovered I need a UNIX server to run the web page on. I found this OS, and thought that it may be of use to me. I followed the majority of the instructions, but I do not remember what I did exactly, and now have found that I can not get Window's (Win 98) to get in to once more. I installed it in the DOS prompt using disks, placing the kern.flp on one disk and mfsroot.flp on the other. Right now, what I have done doesn't matter. I have tried using Partition Magic and the 'FIPS' executable included in the file transfer protocol, but I can not repartition the hard drive because I did not use them at first. I am running out of options, and over 5 years of data which is very important to me is on the drive. Right now when I bring up the C drive, I am presented with 15 files. Although I assume these files are for the FreeBSD partition of the drive, I am worried. Can you please help me in any way possible? Gratefully, Joss Scholten ------------------------------------------------------------ The CompNerd Network: http://www.compnerd.net/ Where a nerd can be a nerd. Get your free webmail@compnerd.net! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 19:52:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from awww.jeah.net (awww.jeah.net [207.87.91.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E45237B878; Mon, 8 May 2000 19:52:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@awww.jeah.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by awww.jeah.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA24191; Mon, 8 May 2000 21:52:07 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 21:52:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Byrnes Message-Id: <200005090252.VAA24191@awww.jeah.net> To: questions@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: normal errors? Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i just went from xntpd -> the new ntpd 4 when starting ntpd, i get these errors in /var/log/messages May 8 21:48:04 awww ntpd[24154]: ntpd 4.0.99i Mon May 8 21:40:22 CDT 2000 (1) May 8 21:48:04 awww /kernel: cmd ntpd pid 24154 tried to use non-present sched_get_priority_max May 8 21:48:04 awww /kernel: cmd ntpd pid 24154 tried to use non-present sched_setscheduler May 8 21:48:04 awww ntpd[24154]: sched_setscheduler(): Function not implemented May 8 21:48:04 awww ntpd[24154]: using kernel phase-lock loop 2000 May 8 21:48:04 awww ntpd[24154]: using kernel phase-lock loop 2041 normal? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 20: 0: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail11.svr.pol.co.uk (mail11.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE85C37B878 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 19:59:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from merlin@a470.com) Received: from [195.92.67.23] (helo=mail18.svr.pol.co.uk) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12p0FT-00012T-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 09 May 2000 03:59:51 +0100 Received: from modem-104.harlequin-basslet.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.25.104] helo=A470.com) by mail18.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12p0FS-0003UC-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 09 May 2000 03:59:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 27832 invoked by uid 1000); 9 May 2000 01:47:36 -0000 Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 01:47:36 +0000 From: Darren Wyn Rees To: Kent Stewart Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppp 'set filter' question Message-ID: <20000509014736.E21948@netlink.co.uk> References: <20000508215244.K13317@netlink.co.uk> <39174057.FFB18636@3-cities.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <39174057.FFB18636@3-cities.com> Organization: A470 X-No-Archive: yes X-PGP-812C54B1: F8 79 5E 84 F0 20 A5 62 FA 2D E9 BD BE 06 7D 10 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kent Stewart : > Personally, I setup user-ppp to auto start in the background, nat, and > demand dial. I currently have a runppp.sh in .../rc.d. I usually ping I don't have an 'rc.d' (though I had an /etc/rc.d/ with Linux). I suppose I should be putting any file to put ppp in the background (as per your suggestion above) in /etc/rc.conf ? > my ISP and it dials. I use an alias to > ping -n 10 -w 10000 my.isp.com. > > Unless there is a problem of some sort, I start getting a response on > the 3rd ping. If it times out completely, something is going on and I > go down to my gateway computer with the modem to see and hear what is > happening. I use user-ppp because it is easy to drop, dial, and quit > all using pppctl. Ah, but what filters do you use in your ppp.conf file ? Your ping above makes user-ppp dial out (because it's in demand dial / auto mode). But what do you use to stop any other traffic to the 'outside' causing a dial out ? Thanks for your help ! Darren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 20: 4: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.hutchtel.net (ns1.hutchtel.net [206.9.112.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F83E37B878 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 20:03:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpaetzel@hutchtel.net) Received: from blah (hutch-143.hutchtel.net [206.10.67.43]) by ns1.hutchtel.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id WAA27830; Mon, 8 May 2000 22:03:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <010701bfb899$fef8f9a0$625662d1@visi.com> From: "Josh Paetzel" To: "Alfred Perlstein" Cc: References: <3916CF65.8BC7835A@tdnet.com.br> <20000508193701.A55455@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> <20000508141129.B17425@fw.wintelcom.net> Subject: Re: researching FreeBSD Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 22:03:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > * Ben Smithurst [000508 14:06] wrote: > > Scott wrote: > > > > > This question and your answer makes me wonder. Are there no ASM > > > optimizations that have been made? > > > > Yes, but the vast majority of it is C. > > Doesn't this have to do with portability? I thought the reason we liked to stay away from assembly was to make it easier to switch platforms. (at the source code level) > > ben@magnesium:~$ locate "/usr/src/*.[Ss]" | wc -l > > 243 > > ben@magnesium:~$ locate "/usr/src/*.c" | wc -l > > 7127 > > > > Don't take this as meaning the ratio of C to assembler is 30:1, since > > the .c files may well be much bigger, the .s files are usually just > > one routine which has been optimized (e.g. some libc functions in > > /usr/src/lib/libc/i386). There is almost certainly more C and less > > assembler than 30:1. > > It's also important to note that although there is quite a bit > of asm (relatively speaking) a bunch of it can be attributed to > hand optimized routines for which C equivelants exist for archs > that don't want/have-time to hand optimize. > > -- > -Alfred Perlstein - > Josh I write all my device drivers in logo. pen down color=blue f20 rotate 30 f10 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 20:12: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fedde.littleton.co.us (fedde.littleton.co.us [216.17.174.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8292537BA6E; Mon, 8 May 2000 20:11:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cfedde@fedde.littleton.co.us) Received: from fedde.littleton.co.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fedde.littleton.co.us (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e493Bku36322; Mon, 8 May 2000 21:11:46 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200005090311.e493Bku36322@fedde.littleton.co.us> To: Chris Byrnes Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: normal errors? In-Reply-To: <200005090252.VAA24191@awww.jeah.net> From: Chris Fedde Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 21:11:46 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 8 May 2000 21:52:07 -0500 (CDT) Chris Byrnes wrote: +------------------ | i just went from xntpd -> the new ntpd 4 | | when starting ntpd, i get these errors in /var/log/messages | | May 8 21:48:04 awww ntpd[24154]: ntpd 4.0.99i Mon May 8 21:40:22 CDT 2000 (1) | May 8 21:48:04 awww /kernel: cmd ntpd pid 24154 tried to use non-present sc hed_get_priority_max | May 8 21:48:04 awww /kernel: cmd ntpd pid 24154 tried to use non-present sc hed_setscheduler | May 8 21:48:04 awww ntpd[24154]: sched_setscheduler(): Function not impleme nted | May 8 21:48:04 awww ntpd[24154]: using kernel phase-lock loop 2000 | May 8 21:48:04 awww ntpd[24154]: using kernel phase-lock loop 2041 | | normal? +------------------ I see those too. I'm not sure what ntpd is trying to say. I have not examined the source. Still NTP does appear to be working. chris -- Chris Fedde 303 773 9134 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 20:26:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from itouch.co.nz (fw2.wilsonandhorton.co.nz [203.99.66.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2FC37B8D1 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 20:26:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonc@itouch.co.nz) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by itouch.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA48707; Tue, 9 May 2000 15:25:12 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from jonc) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 15:25:12 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: TymbrWlf Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clear Screen Before Logout Message-ID: <20000509152512.A4899@jonc.ntdns.wilsonandhorton.co.n> References: <20000506002431.80314.qmail@hotmail.com> <20000506003209.30255.qmail@hades.hell.gr> <007301bfb959$c60864d0$0200a8c0@tymbrwlf> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <007301bfb959$c60864d0$0200a8c0@tymbrwlf>; from tymbrwlf@bellsouth.net on Mon, May 08, 2000 at 08:56:20PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 08:56:20PM -0500, TymbrWlf wrote: > Would there be a good way to set up an alias for that command under the csh > shell? If I put "alias cya clear ; logout" in my .cshrc file, I get put > into a login loop. How would I put multiple commands into an alias? (i.e. > clear and logout, ls and pwd, etc). Just a basic question. "The Complete > FreeBSD" is a little lean on aliases and shell scripting (no offense to Grey > Lehey meant at all;-) Why don't you create a ~/.logout file with the nessary commands in them? -- Jonathan Chen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 20:27:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.rdc3.on.home.com (mail2.rdc3.on.home.com [24.2.9.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4501237B844 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 20:27:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danyc@playground.net) Received: from playground.net ([24.114.192.235]) by mail2.rdc3.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with ESMTP id <20000509032702.PSBT413.mail2.rdc3.on.home.com@playground.net> for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 20:27:02 -0700 Message-ID: <39178589.8F1DD08B@playground.net> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 23:27:06 -0400 From: Dany Cayouette X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: question on Dell Latitude laptops References: <39161984.DAC5F078@S1.com> <20000508115227.O61921@freebie.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I also have a few questions on a Dell Latitude CPiA. I run dedicated FreeBSD systems on a couple of old desktop at home (486 & PII) but never tried a laptop, yet. (and never tried dual-boot) I have a Dell CPiA running Win95 and I was hoping to make it a dual boot system with FreeBSD. How does/can FreeBSD support a 'docked' and 'undocked' setting? How do you tell the NeoMagic to switch from the 'dock' scrren connector to the TFT Display? The laptop has a 6 Gig Hard Drive. a 2Gig partition (C: drive) where most of the applications are and the rest of the disk is one 4Gig partition that is split into 2 'logical DOS' partition D: and E:. I have most of my data on the D: drive. I am not sure if I can do this but maybe someone can help me here... Somebody said I might be able to do this with a program called Partition Magic. I would like to 'free' my E: partition and install a 2Gig FreeBSD partition. I am not sure if this can be done because it is a DOS logical partition. I am also wondering if I will be able to boot FreeBSD (something about a boot section above 1024cylinder). Any experiences/hints would be appreciated.... Dany Greg Lehey wrote: > On Monday, 8 May 2000 at 1:33:56 +0000, Harry Woodward-Clarke wrote: > > Hi ya, > > > > I've just been informed that as of next month I will be getting a > > laptop: "Dell Latitude CPx, 450MHx PIII, 128Mb RAM, 6.4GB HDD, 13.3 > > screen, FDD, CD-ROM, 10/100 Dell/3Com PC-card NIC, V90 PC-Card modem." > > > > So, has anyone had success on installing FreeBSD 3.3 on such a > > beast? > > I've done it on a CPi with no problems. But I'd recommend a newer > release of FreeBSD now. > > > Any hints, tips, tricks, gotcha's I need to be aware of? > > Not really. On the CPi you need the following in your kernel config > to get sound to work: > > device pcm0 at isa? port ? irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x0 > > The video card on the CPi is a NeoMagic, which is now supported by > XFree86. IIRC there was nothing special needed to install it. > > Greg > -- > When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. > For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > See complete headers for address and phone numbers > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 20:29:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ren.sasknow.com (ren.sasknow.com [207.195.92.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5712B37B771 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 20:29:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by ren.sasknow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA44227; Mon, 8 May 2000 21:29:45 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 21:29:45 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: Joss Scholten Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Installing FreeBSD for the first time without backups [Was Re: HELP!] In-Reply-To: <200005090245.TAA00558@mail14.bigmailbox.com> Message-ID: Organization: SaskNow Technologies [www.sasknow.com] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Joss. Before I get started, please configure your mailer to wrap lines at about 72 characters per line, or wrap the lines yourself. Joss Scholten wrote to freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG: > Hi, > > I have been reading in to Perl, CGI-Scripts, but into doing so have > discovered I need a UNIX server to run the web page on. Not necessarily.. I would highly recommend UNIX for running web scripts and Perl, but it's not absolutely necessary. > I found this > OS, and thought that it may be of use to me. I followed the majority > of the instructions, but I do not remember what I did exactly, and now > have found that I can not get Window's (Win 98) to get in to once > more. I installed it in the DOS prompt using disks, placing the > kern.flp on one disk and mfsroot.flp on the other. Right now, what I > have done doesn't matter. It probably DOES matter. If you repartitioned your hard disk drive incorrectly, you may have obliterated Windows. What media did you use to install FreeBSD (CDROM, FTP, etc)? Was the installation successful? It may go without saying, but simply writing out the various .flp images to disks does NOT constitute an install :-) > I have tried using Partition Magic and the 'FIPS' executable included > in the file transfer protocol, but I can not repartition the hard > drive because I did not use them at first. Partition Magic and FIPS both work with existing partitions.. Though they can each be tempermental at times, I have used them both successfully in applications like this. > I am running out of options, and over 5 years of data which is > very important to me is on the drive. This is a case for regular system backups. I don't keep all my money under my pillow, and I certainly don't rely on my hard drive to store all my data :-) If you want to save your data at this point, it would perhaps be best to call in an experienced data recovery professional to salvage what may be left. I would not recommend trying to "save" five years of data yourself when you don't know what you're doing. > Right now when I bring up the C drive, I am presented with 15 files. > Although I assume these files are for the FreeBSD partition of the > drive, I am worried. Can you please help me in any way possible? Which 15 files would those be? By "C" drive (DOS notation, here), do I assume that you have booted into Windows (or DOS)? The next logical question would be, "is your important data there?" Without further knowledge of your situation and how you got yourself into your situation, the only advice I can give you is quite general: Boot from a DOS/Windows recovery disk (or the Win98 CD-ROM) to a command line prompt and type "fdisk /mbr" (without the quotes of course). Doing so will restore the existing master boot record on your first hard disk. Your system will then boot the first active primary partition on your drive, which is most likely Windows 98. If that doesn't help, use DOS's FDisk, or your favorite partition manager, to view/set the active partition to the first primary "DOS" partition shown. -- Ryan Thompson Systems Administrator, Accounts Phone: +1 (306) 664-1161 SaskNow Technologies http://www.sasknow.com #106-380 3120 8th St E Saskatoon, SK S7H 0W2 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 20:42:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pioneernet.net (pop3.islandtransit.org [208.240.196.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C38737BD51 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 20:42:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chip@wiegand.org) Received: from wiegand.org [208.194.173.26] by pioneernet.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.00) id AA4E630C014C; Mon, 08 May 2000 20:47:26 -0700 Message-ID: <39178960.5D10B303@wiegand.org> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 20:43:28 -0700 From: chip X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Second ufs drive suddenly gone bad? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a second bsd drive that is auto-mounted on bootup in the fstab file. It is wd3s1e and contains some files linked from wd1s1e, my freebsd primary drive (wd0s1 is a winblows drive). Anyway, I had to reboot into winblows the other day and when I rebooted into bsd drive wd3s1 failed to mount, and it was working just fine prior to rebooting. ------------------- Mount: /dev/wd3s1e on /mnt: incorrect super block Filesystem mount failed, startup aborted ------------------- Then I rebooted into single user mode and ran - ------------------- #fsck /dev/wd3s1 wd3: cannot find label (disk label corrupted) wd3s1: cannot find label (disk label corrupted) ** /dev/rwd3s1 Bad super block: Magic Number wrong ioctl (GCINFO): Invalid argument fsck: /dev/rwd3s1: can't read disk label # ------------------ Okay, if fsck can't fix it, what will? Is it really toasted? It is an older Fujitsu 2 gig drive, if it is saveable, at least long enough to copy off some files, that would be great. -- Chip www.wiegand.org ***** Visit my web site - Alternative Operating Systems - MS Windows isn't the only OS in town. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 20:49:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (mail.dohboys.com [208.26.253.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2528937BA81 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 20:49:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.242.135]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 8 May 2000 20:45:24 -0700 Message-ID: <3917889A.411D6085@3-cities.com> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 20:40:10 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Darren Wyn Rees Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppp 'set filter' question References: <20000508215244.K13317@netlink.co.uk> <39174057.FFB18636@3-cities.com> <20000509014736.E21948@netlink.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Darren Wyn Rees wrote: > > Kent Stewart : > > > Personally, I setup user-ppp to auto start in the background, nat, and > > demand dial. I currently have a runppp.sh in .../rc.d. I usually ping > > I don't have an 'rc.d' (though I had an /etc/rc.d/ with Linux). > I suppose I should be putting any file to put ppp in the background > (as per your suggestion above) in /etc/rc.conf ? You don't do that until you make it work. It is physically /usr/local/etc/rc.d. The example for version 4.x is different but I already had that script. The UK ISP's are different. I only had to take the pmdemand example from ppp.conf.sample and add my user name and password to the the set login and it worked. You also need your rc.conf setup to tell your system it will act like a gateway. My setup came straight out of /usr/share/examples/ppp/ppp.conf.sample. > > > my ISP and it dials. I use an alias to > > ping -n 10 -w 10000 my.isp.com. > > > > Unless there is a problem of some sort, I start getting a response on > > the 3rd ping. If it times out completely, something is going on and I > > go down to my gateway computer with the modem to see and hear what is > > happening. I use user-ppp because it is easy to drop, dial, and quit > > all using pppctl. > > Ah, but what filters do you use in your ppp.conf file ? > > Your ping above makes user-ppp dial out (because it's in demand > dial / auto mode). But what do you use to stop any other > traffic to the 'outside' causing a dial out ? I have resolv.conf setup with host and then bind. DNS is on my ISP DNS server. My computers all have a host file with the other computers on my internal network in it. The ppp.conf has "alias deny_incoming yes". The Windows 2000 has a WINS server on it, which lets me browse from the Win machines. I only run Win 98 when I have to and the rest of the time they run Win 2000. The 2000 server is always running. None of them have Netbeui in stalled but they do all allow netbios on tcp/ip. A side effect that doesn't matter in my case is Netscape Navigator on W2K is used to access my FreeBSD manuals from Apache running on my gateway. That will cause a dial out. If I had my local computers pointing to FreeBSD as the mail server, that wouldn't happen. I did use the examples on denying ICMP and DNS keep alives and ICMP's weren't permitted to cause a dial out. I'm not charged for time and there was no incentive to doing too much. Getting your system to dial out is the first problem. The rest is a tweak on something that works. Kent > > Thanks for your help ! > > Darren -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 21:27:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kestrel.prod.itd.earthlink.net (kestrel.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96C837BA81 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 21:27:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from natepuri@office.ompages.com) Received: from laptop.ompages.com (1Cust242.tnt2.sacramento2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.219.242]) by kestrel.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA04080 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 21:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from laptop.ompages.com (natepuri@localhost.ompages.com [127.0.0.1]) by laptop.ompages.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA03257 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 21:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200005090427.VAA03257@laptop.ompages.com> Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 21:27:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Nate Puri Subject: APM & 4.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; BOUNDARY="0-1804289383-957846458=:3253" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --0-1804289383-957846458=:3253 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi all, I have a dell inspiron 3000. I have the following entry in my GENERIC kernel config device apm0 at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management Is there something wrong with this for my machine? I can suspend and resume just fine. However, time does not update. Time stays at the exact place where it was when I suspended the machine. Thanks... -nate -- Nate Puri, President Installation, Administration, Security BankofData.net (not yet live) and Support for Home and Small Networks... natepuri@office.ompages.com One of The Wheel's Massive Holdings --0-1804289383-957846458=:3253 Content-Type: APPLICATION/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE5F5O1qGKczCpFJyYRAtIpAJ0TXF5neYeI6fYS1X6oF6jbtCR3WgCgwg7P 2qHnw5UmvX2Ja+cgZMBZVIU= =kO9f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0-1804289383-957846458=:3253-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 22:55: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web2103.mail.yahoo.com (web2103.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6596D37BACE for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 22:55:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from allenklu@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 14240 invoked by uid 60001); 9 May 2000 05:54:58 -0000 Message-ID: <20000509055458.14239.qmail@web2103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.102.221.227] by web2103.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 08 May 2000 22:54:58 PDT Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 22:54:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Allen Lu Subject: More Firewall Stuff To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have a few more questions I like to ask.. 1. It seems to me that there isn't any clause in the rc.firewall to do anything about the filename argument for firewall_type. When I put a full path for firewall_type, it doesn't ever read my rules in the file specified. 2. Where can I find any docs for a static firewall setup? The handbook briefly mentions it but doesn't go into detail on how two interfaces are supposed to be configured to be on the same net. Can you give an example using a /29 network? 3. Has there been any reports of coredumping with SMC EZNET 10/100 PCI cards? I've compiled and recompiled the kernel several times but the system would spontaneously give a kernel page fault and dump core then reboot. Thanks. Allen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 22:59:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B2F37B8F8 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 22:59:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA72676; Mon, 8 May 2000 22:59:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <3917A94E.EE33ADC0@gorean.org> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 22:59:42 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0507 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Harold Pulcher - Killer Computing Cc: shannon stees , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: researching FreeBSD References: <20000508164515.90639.qmail@hotmail.com> <019401bfb91e$9119ae40$02b5e9c7@killercomputing.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Harold Pulcher - Killer Computing wrote: > > What I am wondering is: What does it matter? What I'm wondering is, why do you care? :) We don't discourage curiosity here. We all started somewhere. Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 23:37: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22A1337BE40 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 23:36:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e4978O905708; Tue, 9 May 2000 00:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 00:08:23 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Robert Drehmel Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: e-mail addresses Message-ID: <20000509000823.D4694@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <3917757E.2109A1BA@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3917757E.2109A1BA@gmx.net>; from robd@gmx.net on Tue, May 09, 2000 at 04:18:38AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Robert Drehmel [000508 19:55] wrote: > hi there! > > Can you tell me how i can get such a "@freebsd.org" e-mail address, or > in other words, how much must i contribute to the FreeBSD Project ? Generally it involves contributing to the project: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/contrib.html Have a look at this: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/CVSROOT/avail to get a picture of the people that have been brought aboard. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 8 23:38:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3AD537B692 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 23:38:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA10648 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 08:39:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 08:39:36 +0200 (CEST) From: "O. Hartmann" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: configuring firewall Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sirs. It may be seems to be a little bit foolish to ask this here, but I hope someone can give me the necessary "kick" to get over this tall wall. I want to build up some firewalls with to dedicated NICs. Now I have the following problem: for testing purposes on the two ends of the filtering system I have to normal IPs attached. The inner LAN is a stack of WinNT systems, connecting to the outside world over the inner NIC. The "outer" NIC is configured "normal" like each other computer in our network, what means: normal route, normal standard gateway etc. The host on this end which contains the firewall is reachable in a normal manner. But how to tunnel and filter all traffic through this gate? My first thought (and at this stage, it is still only a theoretical point of view) was: I need a router or a gateway on the same machine. But that cannot be the right solution. I have no experiencees in setting up systems with more than one NIC :-( so I need some helping thoughts. How to set up two NICs which works as a tunnel with the firewall atop? What is absolutely necessary in the FBSD 4.0 kernel to get it working as a firewall and not simply as a filtering unit? Do I need the option "options BRIDGE"? Well, I think I stuck at the point how pakets pass their way through kernel and how they get routed or gated through a "standardpath" and this seems to be a standard "trick" of all admins they should know. If you have literature which points this networking aspect, please tell me. Thanks a lot, O. Hartmann Gruss O. Hartmann ------------------------------------------------------------------- ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de Klimadatenserver des IPA, Universitaet Mainz Netzwerk- und Systembetreuung To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 0: 1:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F3A137BA72 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 00:01:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e497Wlt06419; Tue, 9 May 2000 00:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 00:32:47 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Robert Drehmel Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: e-mail addresses Message-ID: <20000509003247.F4694@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <3917757E.2109A1BA@gmx.net> <20000509000823.D4694@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000509000823.D4694@fw.wintelcom.net>; from bright@wintelcom.net on Tue, May 09, 2000 at 12:08:23AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Alfred Perlstein [000509 00:14] wrote: > * Robert Drehmel [000508 19:55] wrote: > > hi there! > > > > Can you tell me how i can get such a "@freebsd.org" e-mail address, or > > in other words, how much must i contribute to the FreeBSD Project ? > > Generally it involves contributing to the project: > > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/contrib.html > > Have a look at this: > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/CVSROOT/avail > > to get a picture of the people that have been brought aboard. And this one as well. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/CVSROOT/access -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 0:43:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bigboy.idl.com.au (bigboy.idl.com.au [203.33.254.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A0637BA72 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 00:43:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ireland@idl.net.au) Received: from workstation_one (newc56port14.idl.com.au [203.33.254.15]) by bigboy.idl.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id RAA16757 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 17:41:42 +1000 From: "John Ireland" To: "Free BSD" Subject: NIC Drivers Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 17:47:19 +1000 Message-ID: <000401bfb98a$cdb9e240$c9026b83@workstation_one> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi do you know of a NIC driver for the D Link 528CT (PCI) NIC, which will run under Free BSD 2.2.6. Kind Regards John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 0:55: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.telestream.com (mail.telestream.com [205.238.4.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A0737B8A7 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 00:54:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keith@mail.telestream.com) Received: from localhost (keith@localhost) by mail.telestream.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA16707 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 00:54:55 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 00:54:55 -0700 (PDT) From: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Apache/SSI Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How can I get ssi to work globaly in people ~'s? I've followed the instructions at apache.org. Have included the Options Includes AddType and AddHandler. The only way I can get people to have ssi enabled is if they have Options Includes in their personal .htaccess file. I prefer to have it done individualy as opposed to globaly. It's just that now that I know it does not work globaly for some reason, it also means I don't know why it's working on an individual basis... Confusion. :-/ Keith ================================= I here by change the name of RedHat to RedSplat. Keith W. At the helm ================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 1:10:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A96B37B873 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 01:10:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id RAA79024; Tue, 9 May 2000 17:39:57 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 17:39:57 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Dany Cayouette Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: question on Dell Latitude laptops Message-ID: <20000509173956.V75157@freebie.lemis.com> References: <39161984.DAC5F078@S1.com> <20000508115227.O61921@freebie.lemis.com> <39178589.8F1DD08B@playground.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <39178589.8F1DD08B@playground.net> Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 8 May 2000 at 23:27:06 -0400, Dany Cayouette wrote: > Greg Lehey wrote: > >> On Monday, 8 May 2000 at 1:33:56 +0000, Harry Woodward-Clarke wrote: >>> Hi ya, >>> >>> I've just been informed that as of next month I will be getting a >>> laptop: "Dell Latitude CPx, 450MHx PIII, 128Mb RAM, 6.4GB HDD, 13.3 >>> screen, FDD, CD-ROM, 10/100 Dell/3Com PC-card NIC, V90 PC-Card modem." >>> >>> So, has anyone had success on installing FreeBSD 3.3 on such a >>> beast? >> >> I've done it on a CPi with no problems. But I'd recommend a newer >> release of FreeBSD now. >> >>> Any hints, tips, tricks, gotcha's I need to be aware of? >> >> Not really. On the CPi you need the following in your kernel config >> to get sound to work: >> >> device pcm0 at isa? port ? irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x0 >> >> The video card on the CPi is a NeoMagic, which is now supported by >> XFree86. IIRC there was nothing special needed to install it. > > I also have a few questions on a Dell Latitude CPiA. Hmm. I wonder what the difference is between a CPi and a CPiA. > I run dedicated FreeBSD systems on a couple of old desktop at home > (486 & PII) but never tried a laptop, yet. (and never tried > dual-boot) I have a Dell CPiA running Win95 and I was hoping to make > it a dual boot system with FreeBSD. How does/can FreeBSD support a > 'docked' and 'undocked' setting? I've never used a dock, but Bill Fumerola has. It works fine as long as you don't try to dock or undock while the system is running; that caused panics last time I saw it (last October). > How do you tell the NeoMagic to switch from the 'dock' scrren > connector to the TFT Display? The same way as you do under Microsoft. Fn and F7 (I think). It's marked on the function key, anyway. > The laptop has a 6 Gig Hard Drive. a 2Gig partition (C: drive) where most > of the applications are and the rest of the disk is one 4Gig partition that > is split into 2 'logical DOS' partition D: and E:. I have most of my data > on the D: drive. I am not sure if I can do this but maybe someone can help > me here... Somebody said I might be able to do this with a program called > Partition Magic. I would like to 'free' my E: partition and install a 2Gig > FreeBSD partition. I am not sure if this can be done because it is a DOS > logical partition. Partition magic will do it, I believe. You'll have to remove the logical partition and shrink the primary partition which contains it. > I am also wondering if I will be able to boot FreeBSD > (something > about a boot section above 1024cylinder). The 1024 cylinder restriction went away a long time ago. The problems nowadays are more related to the 8GB limit, which shouldn't worry you. I once had three partitions on my CPi, and I could boot from all of them. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 1:17:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE1437B710 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 01:17:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12p5BO-000Cty-00; Tue, 09 May 2000 10:15:58 +0200 Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:15:58 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: C J Michaels Cc: R Joseph Wright , Rahul Dhesi , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: stop complaining about x11 please (was: Re: Why does PORTS S Message-ID: <20000509101557.A49564@mithrandr.moria.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from cjm2@earthling.net on Sat, May 06, 2000 at 10:37:15AM -0400 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat 2000-05-06 (10:37), C J Michaels wrote: > I have one very simple problem with this suggestion. And that is the > ncurses dialogs are a pain in the ass if you are trying to do things that > don't require user intervention. I'm sure I'm in the minority, but _I_ > happen to do things such as "make fetch" in a given dir to grab a bunch of > tarballs. When it runs into a port that pops up a ncurses dialog it just > sits there until I happen to come back to consol and see it. This is a > HUGE PITA to me. Set BATCH, since that is what it is for. portconf respects BATCH, obviously. > If someone is going to implement a "ncurses" dialog on every other port > than there needs to be a defacto way to bypass that and go with the > defaults. Of course, that's why you need a defacto way to describe options. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Hacker In Chief, Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 1:35:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (ha1.rdc1.wa.home.com [24.0.2.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA8737B569 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 01:35:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pstanfield@home.com) Received: from c272234a ([24.16.247.12]) by mail.rdc1.wa.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP id <20000509083526.NPE1652.mail.rdc1.wa.home.com@c272234a> for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 01:35:26 -0700 Message-ID: <000801bfb992$eba7f500$0cf71018@c272234a> From: "Archimedes" To: Subject: I may be new....but. Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 01:45:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFB958.3F066EB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFB958.3F066EB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, this is really stumping me. In linux, by default, I think you get the basic shell or "bash", this = shell allows you to simply hit the up arrow to go through a bunch of = your previous command line commands. =20 So I install FreeBSD, and lo and behold, I can find no such feature in = the basic (bourne?) shell. Is there one? How about for other shells = like csh and ssh? I may be lazy but it is such a useful feature I can't believe its not = there somewhere. help me find it please. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFB958.3F066EB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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So I install FreeBSD, and lo and = behold, I can find=20 no such feature in the basic (bourne?) shell.  Is there one?  = How=20 about for other shells like csh and ssh?
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFB958.3F066EB0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 1:43:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E056037BABE for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 01:43:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12p5bW-000CxV-00; Tue, 09 May 2000 10:42:58 +0200 Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:42:58 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Archimedes Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I may be new....but. Message-ID: <20000509104258.A49703@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <000801bfb992$eba7f500$0cf71018@c272234a> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <000801bfb992$eba7f500$0cf71018@c272234a>; from pstanfield@home.com on Tue, May 09, 2000 at 01:45:25AM -0700 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue 2000-05-09 (01:45), Archimedes wrote: > Ok, this is really stumping me. > > In linux, by default, I think you get the basic shell or "bash", this > shell allows you to simply hit the up arrow to go through a bunch of > your previous command line commands. In sh, "set -o emacs". > So I install FreeBSD, and lo and behold, I can find no such feature in > the basic (bourne?) shell. Is there one? How about for other shells > like csh and ssh? Type "csh". Or, install bash, tcsh, or similar from sysinstall when you install, or use ports to add them later. Or, "pkg_add -r bash" or "pkg_add -r tcsh" for the above-mentioned. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Hacker In Chief, Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 1:43:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from iserver.itworks.com.au (iserver.itworks.com.au [203.32.61.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D7E137BDA8 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 01:43:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gavin@itworks.com.au) Received: (qmail 39386 invoked from network); 9 May 2000 08:43:20 -0000 Received: from maybe.itworks.com.au (203.36.209.235) by iserver.itworks.com.au with SMTP; 9 May 2000 08:43:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 12556 invoked from network); 9 May 2000 08:43:19 -0000 Received: from maybe.itworks.com.au (HELO maybe) (203.36.209.235) by maybe.itworks.com.au with SMTP; 9 May 2000 08:43:19 -0000 Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 18:43:18 +1000 (EST) From: Gavin Cameron To: Archimedes Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I may be new....but. In-Reply-To: <000801bfb992$eba7f500$0cf71018@c272234a> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Install bash from the ports by doing the following cd /usr/ports/shells/bash2 make install Cheers Gavin []-----------------------------------+------------------------------------[] | Gavin Cameron | ITworks Consulting | | Ph : +61 3 9642 5477 | Level 8, 488 Bourke Street | | Fax : +61 3 9642 5499 | Melbourne, Victoria | | Email : gavin@itworks.com.au | Australia, 3000 | []-----------------------------------+------------------------------------[] On Tue, 9 May 2000, Archimedes wrote: > Ok, this is really stumping me. > > In linux, by default, I think you get the basic shell or "bash", this shell allows you to simply hit the up arrow to go through a bunch of your previous command line commands. > > So I install FreeBSD, and lo and behold, I can find no such feature in the basic (bourne?) shell. Is there one? How about for other shells like csh and ssh? > > I may be lazy but it is such a useful feature I can't believe its not there somewhere. help me find it please. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 1:45: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from members.vizip.com (members.vizip.com [206.169.244.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D87337BDA8 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 01:44:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dream@members.vizip.com) Received: from localhost (dream@localhost) by members.vizip.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00913; Mon, 8 May 2000 22:46:02 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from dream@members.vizip.com) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 22:46:02 -1000 (HST) From: Brian To: Archimedes Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I may be new....but. In-Reply-To: <000801bfb992$eba7f500$0cf71018@c272234a> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Install tcsh or bash from the ports.. /usr/ports/shells/tcsh /usr/ports/shells/bash2 --Brian On Tue, 9 May 2000, Archimedes wrote: > Ok, this is really stumping me. > > In linux, by default, I think you get the basic shell or "bash", this shell allows you to simply hit the up arrow to go through a bunch of your previous command line commands. > > So I install FreeBSD, and lo and behold, I can find no such feature in the basic (bourne?) shell. Is there one? How about for other shells like csh and ssh? > > I may be lazy but it is such a useful feature I can't believe its not there somewhere. help me find it please. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 1:53:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA61D37B56A for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 01:53:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.242.135]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 9 May 2000 01:53:29 -0700 Message-ID: <3917D0CE.1DF8FAE6@3-cities.com> Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 01:48:14 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Archimedes Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I may be new....but. References: <000801bfb992$eba7f500$0cf71018@c272234a> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Archimedes wrote: > > Ok, this is really stumping me. > > In linux, by default, I think you get the basic shell or "bash", > this shell allows you to simply hit the up arrow to go through a > bunch of your previous command line commands. > > So I install FreeBSD, and lo and behold, I can find no such feature > in the basic (bourne?) shell. Is there one? How about for other > shells like csh and ssh? Well, you have choices. You need to "cd /usr/ports/shells" and choose which one you want to make and install. I use the PD version of ksh and can't help you beyond this point. If you use csh, which I do on root, you can !comm and it will use the last command starting comm*. Kent > > I may be lazy but it is such a useful feature I can't believe its > not there somewhere. help me find it please. -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 2: 4: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from blues.jpj.net (blues.jpj.net [204.97.17.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D606637B6FC for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 02:03:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trevor@jpj.net) Received: from localhost (trevor@localhost) by blues.jpj.net (right/backatcha) with ESMTP id e4993tP15701; Tue, 9 May 2000 05:03:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 05:03:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Trevor Johnson To: Archimedes Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I may be new....but. In-Reply-To: <000801bfb992$eba7f500$0cf71018@c272234a> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > In linux, by default, I think you get the basic shell or "bash", this > shell allows you to simply hit the up arrow to go through a bunch of > your previous command line commands. FreeBSD's default shell was csh, but in -CURRENT it's been replaced by tcsh, which has that feature. Therefore some future releases of FreeBSD will have it. You might still be annoyed by differences between tcsh and your customary bash though, so I'd concur with those who suggested installing bash from a package or port. -- Trevor Johnson http://jpj.net/~trevor/gpgkey.txt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 2: 5:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from amber.dds.nl (amber.dds.nl [194.109.21.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1180537B603 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 02:05:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from atewe@dds.nl) Received: from feline.dds.nl (feline.dds.nl [194.109.20.19]) by amber.dds.nl (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA18716 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 11:05:14 +0200 (MET DST) From: atewe@dds.nl Received: from moronic.edu.dds.nl (webmail@moronic.edu.dds.nl [194.109.21.17]) by feline.dds.nl (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e4995Br15280 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 11:05:12 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <242993186.957863296697.JavaMail.atewe@dds.nl> Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 13:38:16 +0430 (GMT+04:30) To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Isn't there a Doc file for word or something So i can print it in one time Ate van der Werf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 2:10:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from amber.dds.nl (amber.dds.nl [194.109.21.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6288537BE45 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 02:10:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from atewe@dds.nl) Received: from feline.dds.nl (feline.dds.nl [194.109.20.19]) by amber.dds.nl (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA19121 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 11:10:23 +0200 (MET DST) From: atewe@dds.nl Received: from moronic.edu.dds.nl (webmail@moronic.edu.dds.nl [194.109.21.17]) by feline.dds.nl (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e499AJr20705 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 11:10:19 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <242910217.957863604851.JavaMail.atewe@dds.nl> Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 13:43:24 +0430 (GMT+04:30) To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit WebmailServer: De Digitale Stad, Ver. 1.0 by G.Hofstede 1998 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Isn't there a Doc file for word or something for the handbook So i can print it in one time Ate van der Werf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 2:32:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.xnet.ro (websrv1.xnet.ro [193.230.161.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A5E37B603; Tue, 9 May 2000 02:32:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sergiu.partenie@connex.ro) Received: from cbc_ex.connex.ro ([10.100.169.150]) by mail.xnet.ro with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.387.38); Tue, 9 May 2000 12:31:50 +0300 Received: from connex.ro (xennoc.connex.ro [10.102.1.235]) by cbc_ex.connex.ro with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id KJBRC1NN; Tue, 9 May 2000 12:32:28 +0300 Message-ID: <3917DA1B.B1687115@connex.ro> Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 12:27:55 +0300 From: Sergiu Partenie Organization: MobiFon S.A. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i586) X-Accept-Language: en, ro MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, "questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: 4.0-RELEASE install problems with old ATA hdd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all I tried to install (for the first time) 4.0-RELEASE on an 486dx50 8Mb ram ed0: 3c503 ad0: Conner periphals CP3000 42Mb ad1: Maxtor 119Mb the kernel misdetects the geometry of ad0 - the 40Mb ata hdd the bios CHS settings are 977/5/17 (Type 17) but freebsd detects it as 1053/2/40 I tried to fdisk-it with no data on it: it screams hell with I/O errors and sysinstall aborts the instalation proces returning to the menu Adter reading the faq I made a small dos partition (500k), the kernel still detects the disk wrongly but fdisk reports a hore human value (971/5/17) After making a partition/slice for freebsd (either in the free space or using all the hdd) and [W]riting it (or using Comit) all hell breaks loose: panic: Going nowhere without my init ! syncing disks... done Uptime: xx:xx Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort and in Alt-F2 (with debug enabled) DEBUG: Notify: Writting partition information to drive ad0 ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk#18 status=59 error=10 ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk#857 status=59 error=10 sysinstall:read:Input/output error init died (signal 0, exit1) ... the partition information is not written but the BootMgr is. everything works okey-dokey with ad1 The openbsd and the netbsd boot disks will also misdetect the geometry The BIOS autodetect finds the drive with the wrong geometry but is not able to acces the disk in that way (low level format fails) everything is ok if i set the geometry by hand. The linux kernel will sometimes misreport the geometry but that can be easy fixed with the "hdX=cyl,head,sect" kernel boot option. (the drive was used as a / partition for a linux box) Is there a posibility to pass to the freebsd kernel a similar option ? is there something like that ? and without recompiling the kernel (nobody i know in this side of the planet uses bsd - only linux) ? I have used Linux for 5 years but i'm new to *BSD ... thank you very much. -- Sergiu Partenie - UNIX System Administrator - MobiFon S.A. sergiu.partenie@connex.ro psergiu@xmail.ro #1764 093250006 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 2:32:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.xnet.ro (websrv1.xnet.ro [193.230.161.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A5E37B603; Tue, 9 May 2000 02:32:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sergiu.partenie@connex.ro) Received: from cbc_ex.connex.ro ([10.100.169.150]) by mail.xnet.ro with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.387.38); Tue, 9 May 2000 12:31:50 +0300 Received: from connex.ro (xennoc.connex.ro [10.102.1.235]) by cbc_ex.connex.ro with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id KJBRC1NN; Tue, 9 May 2000 12:32:28 +0300 Message-ID: <3917DA1B.B1687115@connex.ro> Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 12:27:55 +0300 From: Sergiu Partenie Organization: MobiFon S.A. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i586) X-Accept-Language: en, ro MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, "questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: 4.0-RELEASE install problems with old ATA hdd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all I tried to install (for the first time) 4.0-RELEASE on an 486dx50 8Mb ram ed0: 3c503 ad0: Conner periphals CP3000 42Mb ad1: Maxtor 119Mb the kernel misdetects the geometry of ad0 - the 40Mb ata hdd the bios CHS settings are 977/5/17 (Type 17) but freebsd detects it as 1053/2/40 I tried to fdisk-it with no data on it: it screams hell with I/O errors and sysinstall aborts the instalation proces returning to the menu Adter reading the faq I made a small dos partition (500k), the kernel still detects the disk wrongly but fdisk reports a hore human value (971/5/17) After making a partition/slice for freebsd (either in the free space or using all the hdd) and [W]riting it (or using Comit) all hell breaks loose: panic: Going nowhere without my init ! syncing disks... done Uptime: xx:xx Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort and in Alt-F2 (with debug enabled) DEBUG: Notify: Writting partition information to drive ad0 ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk#18 status=59 error=10 ad0: HARD READ ERROR blk#857 status=59 error=10 sysinstall:read:Input/output error init died (signal 0, exit1) ... the partition information is not written but the BootMgr is. everything works okey-dokey with ad1 The openbsd and the netbsd boot disks will also misdetect the geometry The BIOS autodetect finds the drive with the wrong geometry but is not able to acces the disk in that way (low level format fails) everything is ok if i set the geometry by hand. The linux kernel will sometimes misreport the geometry but that can be easy fixed with the "hdX=cyl,head,sect" kernel boot option. (the drive was used as a / partition for a linux box) Is there a posibility to pass to the freebsd kernel a similar option ? is there something like that ? and without recompiling the kernel (nobody i know in this side of the planet uses bsd - only linux) ? I have used Linux for 5 years but i'm new to *BSD ... thank you very much. -- Sergiu Partenie - UNIX System Administrator - MobiFon S.A. sergiu.partenie@connex.ro psergiu@xmail.ro #1764 093250006 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 3: 2:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from blues.jpj.net (blues.jpj.net [204.97.17.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72ABD37B940 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 03:02:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trevor@jpj.net) Received: from localhost (trevor@localhost) by blues.jpj.net (right/backatcha) with ESMTP id e49A2WV17441; Tue, 9 May 2000 06:02:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 06:02:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Trevor Johnson To: atewe@dds.nl Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <242910217.957863604851.JavaMail.atewe@dds.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Isn't there a Doc file for word or something for the > handbook > > So i can print it in one time /usr/share/doc/handbook/book.txt /usr/share/doc/handbook/book.html Please give your e-mail a subject. -- Trevor Johnson http://jpj.net/~trevor/gpgkey.txt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 3: 3:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from djl01.djl.co.uk (djl01.djl.co.uk [195.58.135.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A42B37B7EA for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 03:03:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from David.Larkin@djl.co.uk) Received: from DJL.co.uk (djl02.djl.co.uk [195.58.135.196]) by djl01.djl.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA02123; Tue, 9 May 2000 11:03:20 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <3917D5E5.951393B@DJL.co.uk> Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 10:09:57 +0100 From: David Larkin Organization: DJL Software Consultancy Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------E3658143A85D47B000053571" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --------------E3658143A85D47B000053571 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Is anyone familiar with the error message panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs I've looked through archives, and seen similar messages during installation, or creating new filesystems, but I'm getting it on a system that's been working fine for some time. AMD-K6(tm)-2/450 256 MB RAM FUJITSU MPD3173AT FreeBSD 3.3 Suddenly last week I started getting system crashes and had to run FSCK manually a couple of times. I then noticed the following error occuring at regular intervals. soft error writing fsbn the system has now crashed and now will not boot. Changing root device to wd0s1a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted swapon: adding /dev/wd0s1b as swap device Automatic reboot in progress... /dev/rwd0s1a: 1026 files, 26068 used, 37435 free (283 frags, 4644 blocks, 0.4% fragmented) /dev/rwd0s1f: FILESYSTEM CLEAN: SKIPPING CHECKS /dev/rwd0s1f: clean, 6471325 free (1041541 frags, 678723 blocks, 6.6% fragmentation) /dev/rwd0s1e: FILESYSTEM CLEAN: SKIPPING CHECKS /dev/rwd0s1e: clean, 21123 free (451 frags, 2584 blocks, 1.1% fragmentation) panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs syncing disks... 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 giving up Clearly anyone knowing the exact solution would be most welcome. However interpretation of the error messages to give a best guess on the following would be a start. Is this a disk hardware problem ? Is it configuration problem ? Are contents of disk corrupt ? Could this be anything to do with large filesystems ? It's a 17GB disk, and I've recently added new data taking the /usr partition up to about 65% full. Any advice would be welcome, Thanks in Advance Dave ---------------------------------------------------- David Larkin, D.J.L. Software Consultancy Ltd. The Industry Centre, Sunderland Enterprise Park, SR5 3XB UK Switchboard Tel: 44 191 5152666 Fax: 44 191 5152669 Direct Line Tel: 44 191 5153527 Fax: 44 191 5153527 Email David.Larkin@DJL.co.uk SMS-Email David.Larkin.SMS@DJL.co.uk (Max 160 char) ----------------------------------------------------- --------------E3658143A85D47B000053571 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,
Is anyone familiar with the error message

panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs

I've looked through archives, and seen similar messages during
installation, or creating new filesystems, but I'm getting it
on a system that's been working fine for some time.

AMD-K6(tm)-2/450
256 MB RAM
FUJITSU MPD3173AT
FreeBSD 3.3

Suddenly last week I started getting system crashes and had to
run FSCK manually a couple of times.

I then noticed the following error occuring at regular intervals.

soft  error writing fsbn

the system has now crashed and now will not boot.

Changing root device to wd0s1a
WARNING: / was not properly dismounted
swapon: adding /dev/wd0s1b as swap device
Automatic reboot in progress...
/dev/rwd0s1a: 1026 files, 26068 used, 37435 free (283 frags, 4644 blocks, 0.4% fragmented)
/dev/rwd0s1f: FILESYSTEM CLEAN: SKIPPING CHECKS
/dev/rwd0s1f: clean, 6471325 free (1041541 frags, 678723 blocks, 6.6% fragmentation)
/dev/rwd0s1e: FILESYSTEM CLEAN: SKIPPING CHECKS
/dev/rwd0s1e: clean, 21123 free (451 frags, 2584 blocks, 1.1% fragmentation)
panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs
syncing disks... 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 giving up

Clearly anyone knowing the exact solution would be most welcome.
However interpretation of the error messages to give a best guess on the following would be a start.

Is this a disk hardware problem ?
Is it configuration problem ?
Are contents of disk corrupt ?
Could this be anything to do with large filesystems ?

It's a 17GB disk, and I've recently added new data taking the /usr
partition up to about 65% full.

Any advice would be welcome, Thanks in Advance
Dave 

----------------------------------------------------
David Larkin, 
D.J.L. Software Consultancy Ltd. The Industry Centre, 
Sunderland Enterprise Park, SR5 3XB  UK
Switchboard Tel: 44 191 5152666 Fax: 44 191 5152669
Direct Line Tel: 44 191 5153527 Fax: 44 191 5153527
Email     David.Larkin@DJL.co.uk
SMS-Email David.Larkin.SMS@DJL.co.uk (Max 160 char)
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  --------------E3658143A85D47B000053571-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 3:44:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from janus.hosting4u.net (janus.hosting4u.net [209.15.2.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62DD237BABE for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 03:44:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@friends-tv.net) Received: (qmail 23825 invoked from network); 9 May 2000 10:44:16 -0000 Received: from jupiter.hosting4u.net (HELO friends-tv.net) (209.15.2.9) by janus.hosting4u.net with SMTP; 9 May 2000 10:44:16 -0000 Received: from blade ([195.217.160.44]) by friends-tv.net ; Tue, 09 May 2000 05:44:14 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01bfb9a3$e960b460$0100a8c0@blade> From: "Andy Coates" To: Subject: Making by box "non rootable" Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 11:46:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I will be shortly putting my FreeBSD3.4-STABLE machine on the net, and will be giving various people user accounts. Can anyone give me a list of, or a website with, the most common ways "hackers" gain root, and most importantly ways on stopping them. The main services I will be running are Apache, MySQL, FTP, Qmail - all of which are recent versions, and hopefully none of those have exploits. I'm hopefully not stupid, and I'd like to think I have everything covered - but if someone did gain root, is there a way that I can tell this from the logs? Or would they just delete those entries anyway? Maybe some other logging program? My main worry is that they could wipe everything - and not having any backup tapes or anything REALLY would upset me. I also keep a close eye on Bugtraq - is this the best way to keep informed and watch out for any new exploits that I can quickly take care of? TIA, Andy. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 4: 0:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03EF337B682 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 04:00:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bart.lateur@skynet.be) Received: from dialup17.gent.skynet.be (dialup17.gent.skynet.be [195.238.9.17]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with SMTP id 15C9D1807D for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 13:00:17 +0200 (MET DST) From: bart.lateur@skynet.be (Bart Lateur) To: "Freebsd Questions" Subject: Book recommendations (was: Re: Clear Screen Before Logout) Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 10:49:09 GMT Organization: MediaMind Message-ID: <391cecee.7179466@relay.skynet.be> References: <001901bfb95e$61dfe230$0200a8c0@tymbrwlf> In-Reply-To: <001901bfb95e$61dfe230$0200a8c0@tymbrwlf> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/16.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 8 May 2000 21:29:14 -0500, TymbrWlf wrote: >I bought "UNIX secrets" by James C. Armstrong, Jr. and it's been very >helpful (so was "UNIX for Dummies" ;-), but I freely admit I'm a UNIX >Dummy). (To Alan; "The Unix C Shell Field Guide" is next on the list.) >"UNIX Secrets" is almost 1200 pages long; I need time to digest it ;-) Well, that are some titles for a start. But I want more specifice recommendations, please. I'm still rather a rookie myself. The problem with man pages, is that there are no examples. So it's virtually impossible to learn anything from just that: it's just specifics. I've browsed in book shops, morethan once, but I can't say I like any of the Unix books I see: they're either to specific (do I really need a book on "BIND"?), or too general or too basic (yet another intro to "vi"). Look, what I want to learn, is the basics of the peculiarities of Unix(y) system calls, but in a very thorough manner, in order to be able to write bug free programs, mainly in Perl. For example, one or two chapters for the following items would be really appreciated: - fork, zombies, wait - signals - file systems, file and directory permissions, symbolic and hard links, unlink (for example, you can "delete" a file while it is still in use; it will be deleted when it's closed) - file locking - sockets! What's all this socket/bind/accept/connect/... stuff? - pipes - ... I must be forgetting a few subjects. Internet and TCP/IP would be nice, again from the "socket" point of view. Well, you probably get the gist. I want a blend of a tutorial, a cookbook, and a reference manual (WHY you need to do things a certain way). Any recommendations? Does any of the cited titles come close? And are there (Free)BSD specific things, i.e. differences with other Unices, that I should be aware of? -- Bart. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 4: 3:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail-2.sjc.telocity.net (mail-2.sjc.telocity.net [216.227.56.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D57537B614 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 04:03:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from otter@otter.cc) Received: from zoso (dsl-216-227-91-85.telocity.com [216.227.91.85]) by mail-2.sjc.telocity.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA16106; Tue, 9 May 2000 04:00:13 -0700 (PDT) From: "Otter" To: "Andy Coates" , Subject: RE: Making by box "non rootable" Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 07:04:25 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <000b01bfb9a3$e960b460$0100a8c0@blade> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Hi, >I will be shortly putting my FreeBSD3.4-STABLE machine on the net, and will >be giving various people user accounts. >Can anyone give me a list of, or a website with, the most common ways >"hackers" gain root, and most importantly ways on stopping them. The main >services I will be running are Apache, MySQL, FTP, Qmail - all of which are >recent versions, and hopefully none of those have exploits. >I'm hopefully not stupid, and I'd like to think I have everything covered - >but if someone did gain root, is there a way that I can tell this from the >logs? Or would they just delete those entries anyway? Maybe some other >logging program? >My main worry is that they could wipe everything - and not having any backup >tapes or anything REALLY would upset me. >I also keep a close eye on Bugtraq - is this the best way to keep informed >and watch out for any new exploits that I can quickly take care of? >TIA, >Andy. Andy, Yeah, BugTraq is a good place to start. If you're serious about security, it's a full-time job. You can read up on CERT; read some of the USENET lists; subscribe to security mailing lists; read the web sites for info on the apps you plan to use; maybe even check out some the script kiddies web sites. The way I learned about security was to try to hack into my own system. As long as I could get in, I knew someone else could do it better and faster. If nothing else, it's always a learning experience. As for someone getting in, don't complain about lost data if you don't back it up. I come from the school of thought that "data which is not backed up, does not exist". Back it up. Period. If anything happens, a restore should be painless if you do regular backups. Also keep in mind that your data integrity is only as good as your last backup, should you get an intruder or hardware failure. If you need a third reason, see annoying quote #1. Regards, Otter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 4:17:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail-1.sjc.telocity.net (mail-1.sjc.telocity.net [216.227.56.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B53737BE0B for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 04:17:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from otter@otter.cc) Received: from zoso (dsl-216-227-91-85.telocity.com [216.227.91.85]) by mail-1.sjc.telocity.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA14158; Tue, 9 May 2000 04:16:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "Otter" To: "Bart Lateur" , "Freebsd Questions" Subject: RE: Book recommendations (was: Re: Clear Screen Before Logout) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 07:20:20 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <391cecee.7179466@relay.skynet.be> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Bart Lateur > Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 6:49 AM > To: Freebsd Questions > Subject: Book recommendations (was: Re: Clear Screen Before Logout) > > > On Mon, 8 May 2000 21:29:14 -0500, TymbrWlf wrote: > > >I bought "UNIX secrets" by James C. Armstrong, Jr. and > it's been very > >helpful (so was "UNIX for Dummies" ;-), but I freely admit > I'm a UNIX > >Dummy). (To Alan; "The Unix C Shell Field Guide" is next > on the list.) > >"UNIX Secrets" is almost 1200 pages long; I need time to > digest it ;-) > > Well, that are some titles for a start. But I want more specifice > recommendations, please. I'm still rather a rookie myself. > > The problem with man pages, is that there are no examples. So it's > virtually impossible to learn anything from just that: it's just > specifics. > > I've browsed in book shops, morethan once, but I can't say > I like any of > the Unix books I see: they're either to specific (do I really need a > book on "BIND"?), or too general or too basic (yet another intro to > "vi"). > > Look, what I want to learn, is the basics of the peculiarities of > Unix(y) system calls, but in a very thorough manner, in > order to be able > to write bug free programs, mainly in Perl. For example, one or two > chapters for the following items would be really appreciated: > > - fork, zombies, wait > - signals > - file systems, file and directory permissions, symbolic and hard > links, unlink (for example, you can "delete" a file while > it is still in > use; it will be deleted when it's closed) > - file locking > - sockets! What's all this socket/bind/accept/connect/... stuff? > - pipes > - ... I must be forgetting a few subjects. Internet and > TCP/IP would be > nice, again from the "socket" point of view. > > Well, you probably get the gist. I want a blend of a tutorial, a > cookbook, and a reference manual (WHY you need to do things > a certain > way). > > Any recommendations? Does any of the cited titles come > close? And are > there (Free)BSD specific things, i.e. differences with other Unices, > that I should be aware of? > > -- > Bart. > Bart, On this list, you'd get a cookie if you mentioned Greg Lehey's book, "The Complete FreeBSD" (3rd edition). I learned quite a bit when I first got my 2nd edition a couple years ago. Most of the O'Reilly books (http://www.ora.com) are pretty good too. If you want some deeper insight, you can pick up just about any of the books by W. Richard Stevens; or even "Design and implementation of the 4.4BSD Operating System". McKusick, Bostic, and Karels authored that one. There are plenty of books available if you look around. I just referenced several thousand pages of text. That should keep you busy for a while. It's keeping me busy on my vacation this week. -Otter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 4:30:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.tbv.se (smtp2.tbv.se [193.15.92.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ADED37BE08 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 04:30:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from james.wilde@tbv.se) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp2.tbv.se (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA05410 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 13:46:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from james.wilde@tbv.se) Received: from UNKNOWN(193.15.92.37), claiming to be "tbvhks12" via SMTP by smtp2.tbv.se, id smtpdTL5408; Tue May 9 13:46:31 2000 From: "James A Wilde" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: FreeBSD->Solaris Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 13:31:32 +0200 Message-ID: <002901bfb9aa$201047e0$8c0aa8c0@hk.tbv.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wilst I would hesitate in this company to call myself a FreeBSD man, I'm the nearest thing my company has to one. However, in addition to 1 FreeBSD firewall and 1 mail exchanger, I now have responsibility for 2 Solaris firewalls and 1 mail exchanger, all of them Sun sparc machines. Does anyone have any good guidelines to books or other reference material which will help me get up to speed in an environment where I can hardly find my way around the /etc directory? Grateful for any suggestions. mvh/regards James To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 4:43: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.unibe.ch (mailhub.unibe.ch [130.92.254.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E828737BE0B for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 04:42:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roth@iamexwi.unibe.ch) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by mailhub.unibe.ch (PMDF V5.2-32 #42480) id <0FUA00I01J2PG9@mailhub.unibe.ch> for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 9 May 2000 13:40:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from iamexwi.unibe.ch (haegar.unibe.ch [130.92.71.10]) by mailhub.unibe.ch (PMDF V5.2-32 #42480) with ESMTP id <0FUA00DPLJ2OJT@mailhub.unibe.ch> for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 09 May 2000 13:40:01 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from warhol.unibe.ch (warhol [130.92.62.20]) by iamexwi.unibe.ch (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26881 for ; Tue, 09 May 2000 13:44:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (roth@localhost) by warhol.unibe.ch (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA08698 for ; Tue, 09 May 2000 13:43:59 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 13:43:58 +0200 (MET DST) From: Tobias Roth Subject: my first dos attack In-reply-to: <20000506000205.44FD837BD16@hub.freebsd.org> X-Sender: roth@warhol To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Authentication-warning: warhol.unibe.ch: roth owned process doing -bs Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello So I put up my server two weeks ago and it already happened: I got dos attacked. The reason for this is probably that my box runs an ircd, besides a webserver, popserver and mta. I must have been rude to someone on the ircnetwork :) However, this is how my logs looked: May 9 12:03:06 mybox /kernel: icmp redirect from 203.169.158.145: 203.169.158.151 => 203.169.158.151 May 9 12:03:06 mybox iplog[89103]: ICMP: (203.169.158.151) redirect 203.169.158.145 to network 203.169.158.151 Those IP's are not from inside my ISPs domain. I received about a hundred of those packets in a very short time, then everything stopped. Before that, I received a few telnet connection attempts from various places. I don't think this is related, but I mention it anyway. I run a two-week-old 4.0 STABLE with the following kernel options: options TCP_RESTRICT_RST #restrict emission od TCP RST options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies I have TCP_DROP_SYNFIN not enabled because in LINT it says that this is not recommended for webservers. So, should I be worried about that? Should I do anythiong else than maybe change my behaviour on irc? Should I just drop that route for good? Should I try to find out who is responsible for that and make a complaint? If so, how? Thanks for help, Tobe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 4:59:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hq1.tyfon.net (hq1.tyfon.net [213.212.29.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26C0D37B714 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 04:59:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dl@tyfon.net) Received: from enigmatic (dan [192.168.1.20]) by hq1.tyfon.net (Postfix) with SMTP id EFAAE1C7B7; Tue, 9 May 2000 13:59:46 +0200 (CEST) From: "Dan Larsson" To: "James A Wilde" , "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: RE: FreeBSD->Solaris Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 14:01:30 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <002901bfb9aa$201047e0$8c0aa8c0@hk.tbv.se> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG | Does anyone have any good guidelines to books or other reference material | which will help me get up to speed in an environment where I can hardly find | my way around the /etc directory? Grateful for any suggestions. "The Complete FreeBSD" by Greg Lehey ISBN:1-57176-246-9 available at www.freebsdmall.com or www.nohup.se (swedish). | | mvh/regards | | James Regards ------------ Dan Larsson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 5: 2:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl (wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl [131.155.56.216]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6090437B726 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 05:02:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karelj@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl) Received: (from karelj@localhost) by wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA00485; Tue, 9 May 2000 14:02:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from karelj) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 14:02:40 +0200 From: "Karel J. Bosschaart" To: atewe@dds.nl, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <20000509140240.A465@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl> Reply-To: K.J.Bosschaart@tue.nl References: <242910217.957863604851.JavaMail.atewe@dds.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <242910217.957863604851.JavaMail.atewe@dds.nl>; from atewe@dds.nl on Tue, May 09, 2000 at 01:43:24PM +0430 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 01:43:24PM +0430, atewe@dds.nl wrote: > > Isn't there a Doc file for word or something for the > handbook > > So i can print it in one time > See ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/handbook/ for a variety of formats. For reading with Word I think rich text format (rtf) is suitable. Karel. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 5: 8:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ntua.gr (achilles.noc.ntua.gr [147.102.222.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A66537B959 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 05:08:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from past@netmode.ece.ntua.gr) Received: from netmode.ece.ntua.gr (dolly.netmode.ece.ntua.gr [147.102.13.10]) by ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25165 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 15:08:07 +0300 (EET DST) Received: by netmode.ece.ntua.gr (Postfix, from userid 410) id DF4A485C3; Tue, 9 May 2000 14:58:13 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 14:58:13 +0300 From: Panagiotis Astithas To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: f77 linking error Message-ID: <20000509145813.A11108@netmode.ece.ntua.gr> Reply-To: past@netmode.ntua.gr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i X-Organizational-Unit: Network Management and Optimal Design Laboratory X-Organization: National Technical University of Athens, GREECE X-Work-Phone: +30-1-772-1-450 X-Work-FAX: +30-1-772-1-452 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have a small Fortran program that I'm trying to run and it produces an error during the linking phase: laptop$ f77 marina.f -lg2c -lm -lc /usr/lib/libg2c.so: warning: tempnam() possibly used unsafely; consider using mkstemp() /tmp/ccrOW248.o: In function `f.0': /tmp/ccrOW248.o(.text+0x19): undefined reference to `expf_' /tmp/ccrOW248.o(.text+0x41): undefined reference to `sinf_' /tmp/ccrOW248.o: In function `MAIN__': /tmp/ccrOW248.o(.text+0x2a7): undefined reference to `absf_' I'm using the gcc provided wiht FreeBSD 4-STABLE, and I tried to provide explicitly any necessary library on the command line. Has anyone come across this before? Is it excpected behavior? FWIW I tried to locate the symbols (expf_ etc.) using 'strings' in libm.so.4, etc. to no avail. Should I get & build gcc under /usr/local in case something in the stock version is missing? Thanks in advance for any help. Cheers, -past P.S.: This is the program in case it matters: F(X) = EXPF(-X) - SINF(3.1415926*X/2.) READ 100, X1, X2, TOL 100 FORMAT (2F10.0, E10.0) FX1 = F(X1) FX2 = F(X2) IF (FX1*FX2) 1, 2, 3 3 PRINT 200 200 FORMAT (80H FUNCTION VALUES WITH INITIAL X VALUES ARE NOT OF OPPOS 1ITE SIGNS. CHANGE INPUTS. ) CALL EXIT 2 IF (FX1) 4, 5, 4 5 PRINT 201, X1 201 FORMAT (22H THE INPUT VALUE, X = ,F6.3, 27H IS A ROOT OF THE EQUAT 1ION. ) 4 IF (FX2) 6, 7, 6 7 PRINT 201, X2 CALL EXIT 6 PRINT 202 202 FORMAT (55H ERROR. FX1 AND FX2 NOT ZERO THOUGH PRODUCT TESTS ZERO. 1 ) CALL EXIT 1 DO 30 I = 1, 25 X = (X1 + X2)/2 FX = F(X) PRINT 206, X, FX 206 FORMAT (8H AT X = , F10.7, 8H F(X) = ,F10.6) IF (ABSF(X) - TOL) 8, 8, 9 9 IF (FX*FX1) 10, 11, 12 10 X2 = X GO TO 30 12 X1 = X FX1 = FX 30 CONTINUE PRINT 204 204 FORMAT (33H NON-CONVERGENT IN 25 ITERATIONS. ) CALL EXIT 11 PRINT 205 205 FORMAT (7H ERROR. ) CALL EXIT 8 PRINT 203, X, 1 203 FORMAT (16H THE VALUE, X = ,F10.7, 12H IS A ROOT. , I3, 27H ITERA 1TIONS WERE REQUIRED. ) CALL EXIT END To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 5:15: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from durango.picus.com (durango.picus.com [209.100.20.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC2037BE0B for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 05:15:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from troy@picus.com) Received: from abyss [209.100.22.254] by durango.picus.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A10E6AF0144; Tue, 09 May 2000 08:14:06 -0400 From: "Troy Settle" To: "Dan Larsson" , "James A Wilde" , "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: RE: FreeBSD->Solaris Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 08:14:37 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG James, I'm in the same boat. I can navigate my FreeBSD boxes blind folded (as long as I can peek out the corner :). I'm now responsible for a slew of solaris boxes. I don't like the layout one little bit. I find the Solaris /etc directory to be a complete nightmare. I haven't had time to sit down and negotiate with Solaris to find a happy medium, but I'm confident that given time, I can re-structure the /etc directory to be more in line with my FreeBSD boxes. The rest (userland stuff) is pretty much the same throughout the various unices (I've worked as a user on HP/UX, Solaris, linux, irix, BSD and SCO), though I much prefer the way FreeBSD's filesystem is layed out. I wish you the best of luck, -- Troy Settle Network Analyst Picus Communications 540.633.6327 ** -----Original Message----- ** From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG ** [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dan Larsson ** Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 8:02 AM ** To: James A Wilde; FreeBSD Questions ** Subject: RE: FreeBSD->Solaris ** ** ** | Does anyone have any good guidelines to books or other ** reference material ** | which will help me get up to speed in an environment where I ** can hardly find ** | my way around the /etc directory? Grateful for any suggestions. ** ** "The Complete FreeBSD" by Greg Lehey ISBN:1-57176-246-9 ** available at www.freebsdmall.com or www.nohup.se (swedish). ** ** | ** | mvh/regards ** | ** | James ** ** Regards ** ------------ ** Dan Larsson ** ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ** with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 5:16:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.tbv.se (smtp2.tbv.se [193.15.92.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6416837BE48 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 05:16:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from james.wilde@tbv.se) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp2.tbv.se (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA05747; Tue, 9 May 2000 14:32:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from james.wilde@tbv.se) Received: from UNKNOWN(193.15.92.37), claiming to be "tbvhks12" via SMTP by smtp2.tbv.se, id smtpdGc5745; Tue May 9 14:32:37 2000 From: "James A Wilde" To: "Dan Larsson" , "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: RE: FreeBSD->Solaris Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 14:17:37 +0200 Message-ID: <003b01bfb9b0$901fa980$8c0aa8c0@hk.tbv.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ah, sorry, Dan (and all). I didn't make myself clear. It's the FreeBSD side I'm good at - well, better - and, yes, I do have Greg's book - paid for itself within a week. It's the Solaris side I need help with. mvh/regards James > | Does anyone have any good guidelines to books or other > reference material > | which will help me get up to speed in an environment where I > can hardly find > | my way around the /etc directory? Grateful for any suggestions. > > "The Complete FreeBSD" by Greg Lehey ISBN:1-57176-246-9 > available at www.freebsdmall.com or www.nohup.se (swedish). > mvh/regards James To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 5:20:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.tbv.se (smtp2.tbv.se [193.15.92.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C319F37B9B8 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 05:20:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from james.wilde@tbv.se) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp2.tbv.se (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA05777; Tue, 9 May 2000 14:37:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from james.wilde@tbv.se) Received: from UNKNOWN(193.15.92.37), claiming to be "tbvhks12" via SMTP by smtp2.tbv.se, id smtpdUn5775; Tue May 9 14:37:16 2000 From: "James A Wilde" To: "Dan Larsson" , "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: RE: FreeBSD->Solaris Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 14:22:16 +0200 Message-ID: <004001bfb9b1$36709100$8c0aa8c0@hk.tbv.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ah, sorry, Dan (and all). I didn't make myself clear. It's the FreeBSD side I'm good at - well, better - and, yes, I do have Greg's book - paid for itself within a week. It's the Solaris side I need help with. mvh/regards James > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Larsson [mailto:dl@tyfon.net] > Sent: den 9 maj 2000 14:02 > To: James A Wilde; FreeBSD Questions > Subject: RE: FreeBSD->Solaris > > > | Does anyone have any good guidelines to books or other > reference material > | which will help me get up to speed in an environment where I > can hardly find > | my way around the /etc directory? Grateful for any suggestions. > > "The Complete FreeBSD" by Greg Lehey ISBN:1-57176-246-9 > available at www.freebsdmall.com or www.nohup.se (swedish). > > | > | mvh/regards > | > | James > > Regards > ------------ > Dan Larsson > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 5:23:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com [24.6.21.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8027B37BE0B for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 05:23:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from conrads@cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA00888; Tue, 9 May 2000 07:23:21 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <391cecee.7179466@relay.skynet.be> Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 07:23:20 -0500 (CDT) Organization: @Home Network From: Conrad Sabatier To: (Bart Lateur) Subject: RE: Book recommendations (was: Re: Clear Screen Before Logout) Cc: Freebsd Questions Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 09-May-00 Bart Lateur wrote: > On Mon, 8 May 2000 21:29:14 -0500, TymbrWlf wrote: > >>I bought "UNIX secrets" by James C. Armstrong, Jr. and it's been very >>helpful (so was "UNIX for Dummies" ;-), but I freely admit I'm a UNIX >>Dummy). (To Alan; "The Unix C Shell Field Guide" is next on the list.) Eeek! You should look up the net treatise on why you should *not* program in the C shell. A very interesting and entertaining read. [snip] > Well, you probably get the gist. I want a blend of a tutorial, a > cookbook, and a reference manual (WHY you need to do things a certain > way). > > Any recommendations? Does any of the cited titles come close? And are > there (Free)BSD specific things, i.e. differences with other Unices, > that I should be aware of? "Advanced Programming in the UNIX Environment" by W. Richard Stevens (Addison-Wesley). If there's any book that could rightly be called the Unix programmer's bible, it's got to be this one. Very thorough, very clear, very well organized. If only all books were this good. -- Conrad Sabatier http://members.home.net/conrads/ ICQ# 1147270 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 5:47: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from jktmail03.indosat.net.id (jktmail03.indosat.net.id [202.155.15.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085EE37B649 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 05:46:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trisnadi@indosat.net.id) Received: from indosat.net.id ([202.155.40.149]) by jktmail03.indosat.net.id with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.977.9); Tue, 9 May 2000 19:41:07 +0700 Message-ID: <39180A7D.CE133EC8@indosat.net.id> Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 19:54:21 +0700 From: Trisnadi Sutrisno X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: very LONG probing... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've installed FreeBSD 4.0 on my Dell system, it takes very LONG probing on startup. Is there any way to shorten that probing? Trisnadi Sutrisno To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 6: 2: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA8637BEE1 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 06:02:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lowell@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com (lowell@world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by europe.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26594 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 09:02:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from lowell@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA09808; Tue, 9 May 2000 09:02:00 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: setting up sound References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 09 May 2000 09:02:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: Lowell Gilbert's message of 08 May 2000 21:21:08 -0400 Message-ID: Lines: 22 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Lowell Gilbert writes: > Brennan W Stehling writes: > > > Are you sure you want snd0? > > > > Read the man page on pcm. That may help you. I am guessing that you have > > a PCI sound card, and you would use snd1 for that. The man page explains > > why. > > > > That's not true any more on 3.x or later. I apologize for the typo: I meant to say that it wasn't true on FreeBSD releases later *than* 3.x. The device *should* be snd0 on 4.0 and later. Unfortunately, that still doesn't help the original poster, but I don't think we have enough information to definitively answer his question. Be well. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 6:13:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.surf1.de (mail.Surf1.de [194.25.165.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D9637B842 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 06:13:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from foxtwo@gmx.net) Received: from foxtwo (p3E9E39B5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [62.158.57.181]) by mail.surf1.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA18432; Tue, 9 May 2000 14:11:47 +0200 Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 15:14:02 +0200 From: Frank Schoenmann X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.42) Personal Reply-To: Frank Schoenmann X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <2071072466.20000509151402@gmx.net> To: keith@mail.telestream.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache/SSI In-reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi keith! Tuesday, May 09, 2000, 9:54:55 AM, you wrote: kmtc> How can I get ssi to work globaly in people ~'s? I've followed the kmtc> instructions at apache.org. Have included the Options Includes AddType and kmtc> AddHandler. The only way I can get people to have ssi enabled is if they kmtc> have Options Includes in their personal .htaccess file. I prefer to have kmtc> it done individualy as opposed to globaly. It's just that now that I know kmtc> it does not work globaly for some reason, it also means I don't know why kmtc> it's working on an individual basis... Confusion. :-/ Have you tried something like the following in your apache configuration? AllowOverride FileInfo AuthConfig Limit Options MultiViews Indexes SymLinksIfOwnerMatch Includes >> "Believing oneself to be perfect is often the sign of a delusional mind." -- Data -- bye, Frank! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 6:14:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B1837B839 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 06:14:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bart.lateur@skynet.be) Received: from dialup581.gent.skynet.be (dialup581.gent.skynet.be [194.78.243.5]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with SMTP id 4BE7EDA06 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 15:14:00 +0200 (MET DST) From: bart.lateur@skynet.be (Bart Lateur) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: question on Dell Latitude laptops Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 13:02:56 GMT Organization: MediaMind Message-ID: <391c0c41.15198681@relay.skynet.be> References: <39161984.DAC5F078@S1.com> <20000508115227.O61921@freebie.lemis.com> <39178589.8F1DD08B@playground.net> <20000509173956.V75157@freebie.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <20000509173956.V75157@freebie.lemis.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/16.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 9 May 2000 17:39:57 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: >The 1024 cylinder restriction went away a long time ago. I'm not sure of it. Even if you check brand new computers, you're still likely to find that the BIOS is a few years old. -- Bart. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 6:15:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from icc.cgu.chel.su (gw.cgu.chel.su [195.54.14.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784F537BDFC for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 06:15:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ilia@cgu.chel.su) Received: from mail.cgu.chel.su (mail.cgu.chel.su [195.54.14.68]) by icc.cgu.chel.su (8.9.3/8.9.2/$Revision: 1.4 $) with ESMTP id TAA46880 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 19:15:23 +0600 (ESS) (envelope-from ilia@cgu.chel.su) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.cgu.chel.su (8.9.3/8.8.6) with UUCP id TAA29325 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 9 May 2000 19:15:20 +0600 (ESS) Received: from localhost (ilia@localhost) by jane.cgu.chel.su (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA00294 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 19:17:36 +0600 (ESS) (envelope-from ilia@cgu.chel.su) X-Authentication-Warning: jane.cgu.chel.su: ilia owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 19:17:33 +0600 (ESS) From: Ilia Chipitsine To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: URGENT: doscmd Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Dear Sirs, I wrote in .doscmdrc the following lines assign com1: /dev/cuaa0 0x3f8 4 assign com2: /dev/cuaa1 0x2f8 3 but under DOS no program (msd.exe including) can find any COM port ! WTF is going on ?! Regards, (îÁÉÌÕÞÛÉÅ ÐÏÖÅÌÁÎÉÑ) Ilia Chipitsine (éÌØÑ ûÉÐÉÃÉÎ) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBORgP7+RxlWKN2EXhAQGOxAL/el8erVKmDZCRS/UliCy9i6LdKBHJb3PO WX4h5d3s2HSim3sjwI+5Z764IeaPOrT6HFKn1OuiyZ7pUDuvIVErIvDzXbEC2csb Bd+kd4Gp1SnN/Nc0wrmzh/ftdtZVnT64 =Lj2G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 6:21:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833FB37BE93 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 06:21:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bart.lateur@skynet.be) Received: from dialup581.gent.skynet.be (dialup581.gent.skynet.be [194.78.243.5]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with SMTP id E73CF1812A for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 15:21:08 +0200 (MET DST) From: bart.lateur@skynet.be (Bart Lateur) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: very LONG probing... Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 13:10:04 GMT Organization: MediaMind Message-ID: <391e0ddc.15609410@relay.skynet.be> References: <39180A7D.CE133EC8@indosat.net.id> In-Reply-To: <39180A7D.CE133EC8@indosat.net.id> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/16.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 09 May 2000 19:54:21 +0700, Trisnadi Sutrisno wrote: >I've installed FreeBSD 4.0 on my Dell system, it takes very LONG probing >on startup. Is there any way to shorten that probing? You've unchecked most of the SCSI devices? These probes alone may, by default, take close to an hour. -- Bart. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 6:23:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from firehouse.net (rdu25-22-162.nc.rr.com [24.25.22.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 481E837B8A9 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 06:23:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abc@firehouse.net) Received: (qmail 32485 invoked by uid 1000); 9 May 2000 13:23:44 -0000 Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 09:23:44 -0400 From: Alan Clegg To: Conrad Sabatier Cc: Freebsd Questions Subject: Re: Book recommendations (was: Re: Clear Screen Before Logout) Message-ID: <20000509092344.R27251@ecto.greenpeas.org> References: <391cecee.7179466@relay.skynet.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from conrads@home.com on Tue, May 09, 2000 at 07:23:20AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Out of the ether, Conrad Sabatier spewed forth the following bitstream * 12: > [snip] Can you tell us how you REALLY feel about this? AlanC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 6:55:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wasp.eng.ufl.edu (wasp.eng.ufl.edu [128.227.116.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6D237B8F8 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 06:55:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bob@eng.ufl.edu) Received: from eng.ufl.edu (scanner.engnet.ufl.edu [128.227.152.221]) by wasp.eng.ufl.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03623; Tue, 9 May 2000 09:55:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39181818.AB10E6DE@eng.ufl.edu> Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 09:52:24 -0400 From: Bob Johnson Organization: University of Florida X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: merlin@netlink.co.uk Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ppp 'set filter' question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 01:47:36 +0000 > From: Darren Wyn Rees > Subject: Re: ppp 'set filter' question > > Kent Stewart : > > > Personally, I setup user-ppp to auto start in the background, nat, and > > demand dial. I currently have a runppp.sh in .../rc.d. I usually ping > > I don't have an 'rc.d' (though I had an /etc/rc.d/ with Linux). > I suppose I should be putting any file to put ppp in the background > (as per your suggestion above) in /etc/rc.conf ? > You probably do have an rc.d. Look in /usr/local/etc. Any *.sh scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d will be executed at startup. Putting rc.d in /usr/local/etc keeps your local extensions separated from the standard system configuration files. -- Bob ********************************************************* Bob Johnson Senior Systems Programmer bob@eng.ufl.edu College of Engineering 523 Weil Hall 352-392-9217 Office University of Florida 352-392-7063 Fax Gainesville, FL 32611 ********************************************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 6:56:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.wmptl.com (mail2.wmptl.com [216.221.73.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20CCD37BE1E for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 06:56:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webmaster@wmptl.com) Received: from wmptl.com ([10.0.0.168]) by mail2.wmptl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA62987; Tue, 9 May 2000 10:11:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from webmaster@wmptl.com) Message-ID: <39181945.63DA4617@wmptl.com> Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 09:57:25 -0400 From: Nathan Vidican Reply-To: webmaster@wmptl.com Organization: Windsor Match Plate & Tool Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bwoods2@uswest.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: web mail client References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Check out AtDot, you can easily customize it to do whatcha want, it's all cgi based, written in PERL. (We are currently utilizing a somewhat hacked-up copy of AtDot's webmail software on our site if you'd like to check it out?) http://www.atdot.org is where you're going to want to look I believe. -- Nathan Vidican webmaster@wmptl.com Windsor Match Plate & Tool Ltd. http://www.wmptl.com/ William Woods wrote: > > anyone reccomend a good web based pop mail client? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > NOTICE TO BULK E-MAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, > Subchapter II, 227, and all unsolicited commercial e-mail sent to this > address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 7: 8:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.0.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3873937B892 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 07:08:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomg@mailhost.nrnet.org) Received: from mailhost.nrnet.org (mailhost.nrnet.org [166.84.192.39]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57E115566; Tue, 9 May 2000 10:08:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (tomg@localhost) by mailhost.nrnet.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA04264; Tue, 9 May 2000 09:36:03 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 09:36:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Good To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP succeeds...DNS fails -> Resolved! In-Reply-To: <20000508213225.97925.qmail@hades.hell.gr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 9 May 2000, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 03:32:43PM -0400, Thomas Good wrote: > > > > Routing tables > > > > Internet: > > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > > localhost localhost UH 0 2180 lo0 > > 999.999.999/99 link#1 UC 0 0 xl0 > > box1 0:a0:24:9a:1a:53 UHLW 1 10668 xl0 703 > > box2 0:c0:d:1:c:1b UHLW 1 82304 xl0 954 > > ns1.public.net gw.public.net UGHS 0 47 tun0 > > ns2.public.net gw.public.net UGHS 0 10 tun0 > > gw.public.net doofus.dialup.acce UH 2 0 tun0 > > The problem is here... Where is your default route? Thanks Giorgios! It must have been heat exhaustion (if I had an assistant I'd blame him or her!) I reviewed my ppp.conf. Failing to provide the netmask for the add default gw was hosing the process. All is well. Thanks again to you and Ian! Tom ------- North Richmond Community Mental Health Center ------- Thomas Good MIS Coordinator Vital Signs: tomg@ { admin | q8 } .nrnet.org Phone: 718-354-5528 Fax: 718-354-5056 /* Member: Computer Professionals For Social Responsibility */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 7: 9:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.surfree.cl (machine66.justicecorp.com [204.254.85.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F364A37B9F9 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 07:09:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcelo@msm.cl) Received: from marcelo.msm.cl (unknown [204.254.85.118]) by mail.surfree.cl (Postfix) with SMTP id A928CEB148 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 10:08:30 -0400 (CLT) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000509095756.00b3ff00@msm.cl> X-Sender: miturbe@msm.cl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 10:09:11 -0400 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Marcelo J. Iturbe" Subject: memorry question. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I am fairly new to administring FreeBSD systems. I have a web server which seems to "run away" on me. In Linux, when you run "top" it shows you the total amount, used and free memory available. But when I run top under freebsd I get: Mem: 37M Active, 3848K Inact, 15M Wired, 3424K Cache, 7458K Buf, 532K Free All those numbers add up to 67.262Megs of RAM. this machine has a total of 256Megs of RAM. It also has 768 megs of swap and that is showed in a more friendly manner: Swap: 768M Total, 372M Used, 396M Free, 48% Inuse, 100K In, 128K Out Is there a way that I can see the RAM usage in a fashion similar to the swap usage? Thanks for your help.. MI *********************************************** ICQ 22921676 MSM Interactive. El Bosque Norte 0134, Las Condes, Chile. Phone: (56-2) 234-9852 Fax: (56-2) 233-8912 Email: marcelo@msm.cl http://www.msm.cl ******************************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 7:13: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E3D37B87F for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 07:12:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA76381; Tue, 9 May 2000 10:12:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:12:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Hovey To: "Marcelo J. Iturbe" Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: memorry question. In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.2.20000509095756.00b3ff00@msm.cl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sounds like its not seeing all of you ram - you will need to set maxmem in the config and recompile it. On Tue, 9 May 2000, Marcelo J. Iturbe wrote: > Hello, > I am fairly new to administring FreeBSD systems. > I have a web server which seems to "run away" on me. > In Linux, when you run "top" it shows you the total amount, used and free > memory available. > But when I run top under freebsd I get: > > Mem: 37M Active, 3848K Inact, 15M Wired, 3424K Cache, 7458K Buf, 532K Free > > All those numbers add up to 67.262Megs of RAM. this machine has a total of > 256Megs of RAM. > It also has 768 megs of swap and that is showed in a more friendly manner: > > Swap: 768M Total, 372M Used, 396M Free, 48% Inuse, 100K In, 128K Out > Is there a way that I can see the RAM usage in a fashion similar to the > swap usage? > > Thanks for your help.. > MI > > *********************************************** > ICQ 22921676 > MSM Interactive. > El Bosque Norte 0134, Las Condes, Chile. > Phone: (56-2) 234-9852 Fax: (56-2) 233-8912 > Email: marcelo@msm.cl http://www.msm.cl > ******************************************* > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 7:26: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from firehouse.net (rdu25-22-162.nc.rr.com [24.25.22.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9742937B87F for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 07:26:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abc@firehouse.net) Received: (qmail 33416 invoked by uid 1000); 9 May 2000 14:25:36 -0000 Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:25:36 -0400 From: Alan Clegg To: Conrad Sabatier , Freebsd Questions Subject: Re: Book recommendations (was: Re: Clear Screen Before Logout) Message-ID: <20000509102536.V27251@ecto.greenpeas.org> References: <391cecee.7179466@relay.skynet.be> <20000509092344.R27251@ecto.greenpeas.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000509092344.R27251@ecto.greenpeas.org>; from abc@firehouse.net on Tue, May 09, 2000 at 09:23:44AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Out of the ether, Alan Clegg spewed forth the following bitstream: > Out of the ether, Conrad Sabatier spewed forth the following bitstream * 12: > > > [snip] > > Can you tell us how you REALLY feel about this? Sorry about the tone here... A fetchmail process got hung up on my end and continued to deliver copies of you (Conrad's) mail... It appeared to me that he had sent several dozen copies of the mail. My fault, no ill intent here... AlanC {now investigating why that message hung up fetchmail} To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 7:29:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.md.home.com (ha1.rdc1.md.home.com [24.2.2.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CAAF37BE45 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 07:29:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@code-fu.com) Received: from exodus ([24.6.109.184]) by mail.rdc1.md.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP id <20000509142926.CMHQ23916.mail.rdc1.md.home.com@exodus> for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 07:29:26 -0700 Message-ID: <011e01bfb9c2$fa6e7480$0301a8c0@codefu.com> From: "Michael A. Smith" To: Subject: RE: FreeBSD->Solaris Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:29:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Ah, sorry, Dan (and all). I didn't make myself clear. It's the FreeBSD > side I'm good at - well, better - and, yes, I do have Greg's book - paid > for itself within a week. It's the Solaris side I need help with. I've found Mark G. Sobell's A Practical Guide to Solaris (ISBN: 0-201-89548-X) a great resource. It's almost as good as Greg's book! I't got a introductory section and an advanced section. Good coverage of shell programming and a good Solaris reverence in the back. -- Michael A. Smith -- Programmer at Large Phone:703-625-5732 Fax: 801-650-0853 ICQ: 35884415 :wq To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 7:30:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from 1upmc-msx4.isdip.upmc.edu (1upmc-msx4.isdbu.upmc.edu [128.147.18.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE2F37BE93 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 07:30:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from personrp@ccbh.com) Received: by 1upmc-msx4.isdbu.upmc.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) id <233SNLT7>; Tue, 9 May 2000 10:29:24 -0400 Message-ID: <576A688A7DA7D011899B00805FEA1AFFCCECAA@sych02.isdip.upmc.edu> From: "Person, Roderick" To: bwoods2@uswest.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: web mail client Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:29:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Also Check out Mypad.com. They also allow you to access your easy via a pop client or from the web, ALL FOR FREE. So you can use your favorite e-mail client such as xfmail, xcmail or whatever and download your e-mail like a regular pop3 server as well as be out of town and check it via the web. Very cool! Roderick P. Person Programmer/Analyst I Crystal Administrator personrp@ccbh.com (412)454-2616 Education is not a substitute for Intelligence. - Dune: Chapterhouse > -----Original Message----- > From: Nathan Vidican [SMTP:webmaster@wmptl.com] > Sent: May 09, 2000 9:57 AM > To: bwoods2@uswest.net > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: web mail client > > Check out AtDot, you can easily customize it to do whatcha want, it's > all cgi based, written in PERL. (We are currently utilizing a somewhat > hacked-up copy of AtDot's webmail software on our site if you'd like to > check it out?) > http://www.atdot.org is where you're going to want to look I > believe. > > -- > Nathan Vidican > webmaster@wmptl.com > Windsor Match Plate & Tool Ltd. > http://www.wmptl.com/ > > > William Woods wrote: > > > > anyone reccomend a good web based pop mail client? > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > NOTICE TO BULK E-MAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, > > Subchapter II, 227, and all unsolicited commercial e-mail sent to this > > address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 > US > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 7:35:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www0h.netaddress.usa.net (www0h.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D31137B892 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 07:35:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eduhuertas@usa.net) Received: (qmail 5383 invoked by uid 60001); 9 May 2000 14:35:36 -0000 Message-ID: <20000509143536.5382.qmail@www0h.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.37 by www0h for [205.161.188.115] via web-mailer(M3.4.0.33) on Tue May 9 14:35:36 GMT 2000 Date: 9 May 00 08:35:36 CST From: Eduardo Huertas To: Rahul Siddharthan , Eduardo Huertas Subject: Re: [Re: kde doesn't start] Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.4.0.33) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > Eduardo Huertas said on May 8, 2000 at 19:10:45: > > Hello, > > = > > I've just upgraded to FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE and KDE 1.1.2 and this is th= e > > message I get when I try to run KDE: > > = > > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libstdc++.so.3" not found > > = > > I have deinstalled kde 1.1.1 and installed kde 1.1.2 several times in= the > > order that the documentation from www.kde.org recommends, but the sam= e > > symptom. I looked at the archive lists but even though there are questions > > about the same, didn't find an answer. > > = > > How can I install "libstdc++.so.3" or what am I missing? > = > Did you install kde 1.1.2 from the port? If not, did you install a > binary or compile it from source? > = > Rahul. > = > = > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message Hi, OK, I installed (package added) kdesupport-1.1.2.1 kdelibs-1.1.2.1 kdebase-1.1.2 In this order as the installation instructions says in www.kde.org. Besides: kdegames-1.1.2 kdegraphics-1.1.2 kdemultimedia-1.1.2 kdenetwork-1.1.2 kdeutils-1.1.2 and before this I installed the dependencies: XFree86-3.3.6 Mesa-3.2 gettext-0.10.35 jpeg-6b png-1.0.6 gmake-3.79 qt-1.45 tiff-3.5.5 uulib-0.5.13 xpm-3.4k libtool-1.3.4 Thank you very much for your help. Eduardo. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 7:36:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www0h.netaddress.usa.net (www0h.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B656337BE6B for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 07:36:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eduhuertas@usa.net) Received: (qmail 5535 invoked by uid 60001); 9 May 2000 14:36:21 -0000 Message-ID: <20000509143621.5534.qmail@www0h.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.37 by www0h for [205.161.188.115] via web-mailer(M3.4.0.33) on Tue May 9 14:36:21 GMT 2000 Date: 9 May 00 08:36:21 CST From: Eduardo Huertas To: Rahul Siddharthan , Eduardo Huertas Subject: Re: kde doesn't start Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.4.0.33) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > Eduardo Huertas said on May 8, 2000 at 19:10:45: > > Hello, > > = > > I've just upgraded to FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE and KDE 1.1.2 and this is th= e > > message I get when I try to run KDE: > > = > > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libstdc++.so.3" not found > > = > > I have deinstalled kde 1.1.1 and installed kde 1.1.2 several times in= the > > order that the documentation from www.kde.org recommends, but the sam= e > > symptom. I looked at the archive lists but even though there are questions > > about the same, didn't find an answer. > > = > > How can I install "libstdc++.so.3" or what am I missing? > = > Did you install kde 1.1.2 from the port? If not, did you install a > binary or compile it from source? > = > Rahul. > = > = > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message Hi, OK, I installed (package added) kdesupport-1.1.2.1 kdelibs-1.1.2.1 kdebase-1.1.2 In this order as the installation instructions says in www.kde.org. Besides: kdegames-1.1.2 kdegraphics-1.1.2 kdemultimedia-1.1.2 kdenetwork-1.1.2 kdeutils-1.1.2 and before this I installed the dependencies: XFree86-3.3.6 Mesa-3.2 gettext-0.10.35 jpeg-6b png-1.0.6 gmake-3.79 qt-1.45 tiff-3.5.5 uulib-0.5.13 xpm-3.4k libtool-1.3.4 Thank you very much for your help. Eduardo. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 7:38:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D0637B9C8; Tue, 9 May 2000 07:38:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@c03-174.006.popsite.net [216.126.136.174]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA26296; Tue, 9 May 2000 07:38:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA06595; Tue, 9 May 2000 07:38:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 07:38:30 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: John Baldwin Cc: Joe Royce , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, William Woods Subject: Re: Make World on a DEC Alpha dies..... Message-ID: <20000509073830.A6350@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org References: <200005090020.UAA03868@server.baldwin.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200005090020.UAA03868@server.baldwin.cx>; from jhb@FreeBSD.org on Mon, May 08, 2000 at 08:20:32PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 08:20:32PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > RELENG_4 or MFC the /dev/random support to fix -stable, though. It will be. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 7:42:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E9B37B5C1; Tue, 9 May 2000 07:42:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jan.Grant@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Tue, 9 May 2000 15:42:31 +0100 Received: from localhost (cmjg@localhost) by mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09067; Tue, 9 May 2000 15:42:30 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 15:42:30 +0100 (BST) From: Jan Grant To: Doug Wellington Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with 36GB SCSI drives... In-Reply-To: <200005081950.MAA16581@cortex.NSMA.Arizona.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 8 May 2000, Doug Wellington wrote: > I have a PC (550 MHZ P-III, Asus P3B-F, 256 MB) with two Adaptec 2940U2W > boards with six IBM DMVS36V 36GB drives. I also have a four gig internal > SCSI drive attached to the first 2940U2W to boot from. The goal is to use > vinum and create a RAID5 system... ... > I get the following messages: > > (da1:ahc0:0:1:0) SCB 0x0c - timed out in Data-out phase, SSEQADDR == 0x5d > (da1:ahc0:0:1:0) BDR message in message buffer > (da1:ahc0:0:1:0) SCB 0x0c - timed out in Data-out phase, SSEQADDR == 0x5e > (da1:ahc0:0:1:0) BDR message in message buffer > (da1:ahc0:0:1:0) no longer in timeout, status = 34b > ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 4 SCBs aborted ... > What gives? Anybody have any ideas? I'd look very closely at the physical setup: particularly termination. The Adaptec boards do autodetection for termination settings and suchlike; I've seen this cause trouble before. Drop into the Adaptec BIOS on boot using ^A and try setting the termination settings explicitly (internal and external) for both boards. -- jan grant, ILRT, University of Bristol. http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/ Tel +44(0)117 9287163 Fax +44 (0)117 9287112 RFC822 jan.grant@bris.ac.uk Unfortunately, I have a very good idea how fast my keys are moving. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 7:46:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtpf.casema.net (smtpf.casema.net [195.96.96.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2003637BAAD for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 07:46:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tjeerd_h@dds.nl) Received: (qmail 22610 invoked by uid 0); 9 May 2000 14:46:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hoo2) (212.64.43.101) by smtpf.casema.net with SMTP; 9 May 2000 14:46:11 -0000 Message-ID: <000801bfb9c6$ba4f8520$0900a8c0@hoo2.homeip.net> From: "tjeerd hoogendijk" To: Subject: gateway configuration Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 16:56:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFB9D7.7BF31A60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFB9D7.7BF31A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a question about the gateway option in freebsd 4.0. The = installation of freebsd was no problem then i found out how to connect = with my modem to my isp so far no problems. but when I tryed to share my = connection with a win98 box it wouldn't work i have red the instructions = how to make a internet gateway but when i start a ppp sesion to my isp = with the option -nat i can not connect with my win98 box to the = internet.I have set the gateway in my tcp/ip tap of my networkcard from = my win98 box to th ip of my inet server. now is the question do i have = set more thinks before i can connect with my win98 box to the internet. = i also put the ip and name of my win98 box in the /etc/hosts file. thanks if someone can help me ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFB9D7.7BF31A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a question about the = gateway option in=20 freebsd 4.0. The installation of freebsd was no problem then i found out = how to=20 connect with my modem to my isp so far no problems. but when I tryed to = share my=20 connection with a win98 box it wouldn't work i have red the instructions = how to=20 make a internet gateway but when i start a ppp sesion to my isp with the = option=20 -nat i can not connect with my win98 box to the internet.I have set the = gateway=20 in my tcp/ip tap of my networkcard from my win98 box to th ip of my = inet=20 server. now is the question do i have set more thinks before i can = connect with=20 my win98 box to the internet. i also put the ip and name of my win98 box = in the=20 /etc/hosts file.
 
thanks if someone can help=20 me
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In-Reply-To: Message from Doug Wellington of "Mon, 08 May 2000 14:15:36 PDT." <200005082115.OAA17706@cortex.NSMA.Arizona.EDU> Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 11:04:46 -0400 From: Mitch Collinsworth Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >[Drumming fingers] I'm wondering if it's the motherboard... Wish I had >another one to test. (I have tried different 2940U2W boards already.) I was just thumbing through the 2940u2w User's Reference Manual and found a few things worth taking a look at. Specifically: - The Troubleshooting Checklist on pages 4-5. - Common Error Messages on p. 9. Under "time-out failure during..." after verify termination and verify cable connections, the last choice says one of your peripherals may be defective. - Page 12 has a section on Installing Multiple SCSI Cards and how to set your BIOS settings correctly. -Mitch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 8:12:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu (larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu [128.84.247.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2061A37B8E5; Tue, 9 May 2000 08:12:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mkc@larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu) Received: from larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu (mkc@localhost) by larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA73400; Tue, 9 May 2000 11:11:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mkc@larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu) Message-Id: <200005091511.LAA73400@larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu> To: Steve Jorgensen Cc: ddw@NSMA.Arizona.EDU, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with 36GB SCSI drives... In-Reply-To: Message from Steve Jorgensen of "Mon, 08 May 2000 16:37:29 MDT." <200005082237.QAA29923@benson> Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 11:11:07 -0400 From: Mitch Collinsworth Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > You don't by chance have devices connected to both internal > connectors AND something connected to the external connector? > > I don't have a u2w, but my adaptec 2940uw says you can't > do that. The 2940u2w User's Reference manual, last diagram on page 26, indicates that it's ok to use all four connectors simultaneously. But if I understood Doug's setup right he has one internal disk on one controller and 6 external disks on the other controller, so he's not there yet. -Mitch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 8:21:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.surfree.cl (machine66.justicecorp.com [204.254.85.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E45837B710 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 08:21:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcelo@msm.cl) Received: from marcelo.msm.cl (unknown [204.254.85.118]) by mail.surfree.cl (Postfix) with SMTP id 637C9EB148 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 11:20:23 -0400 (CLT) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000509111631.00d0fab0@msm.cl> X-Sender: miturbe@msm.cl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 11:21:05 -0400 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Marcelo J. Iturbe" Subject: going stable... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, When I bought FreeBSD, I thought I was buying a stable version but they sent me 3.3-Release (back in December). I have been having lots of problems with SCSI controlers, Memory recognition etc.. So I wa thinking of downloading a stable kernel and compiling that. So I went into /stand/sysinstall and choose FTP as instalation Media. When into options and chose 3.0-stable as the distribution name because that is what I found under: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/branches/3.0-stable/ But, it told me that it could not find the release and to try "none" and so I did and I still can't install from FTP. What should I try? how does one install frmo FTP successfuly? Thanks Marcelo *********************************************** ICQ 22921676 MSM Interactive. El Bosque Norte 0134, Las Condes, Chile. Phone: (56-2) 234-9852 Fax: (56-2) 233-8912 Email: marcelo@msm.cl http://www.msm.cl ******************************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 9 8:26:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from djl01.djl.co.uk (djl01.djl.co.uk [195.58.135.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F4B37B8E5 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 08:26:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from David.Larkin@djl.co.uk) Received: from DJL.co.uk (djl02.djl.co.uk [195.58.135.196]) by djl01.djl.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA02828; Tue, 9 May 2000 16:26:02 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <39182044.30B433BF@DJL.co.uk> Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 15:27:16 +0100 From: David Larkin Organization: DJL Software Consultancy Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Dirk-Willem van Gulik Subject: Re: panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs / fixit.flp mount help References: <3917D5E5.951393B@DJL.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------DD0DE4C5002D1ABE7256855C" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --------------DD0DE4C5002D1ABE7256855C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Still trying to get to bottom of 'panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs' problem described below. I've now booted the fixit floppy Could someone advise me how to check that certain files still exist on the hard disk. I guess I need to mount my /usr partition as /mnt /usr was /dev/wd0s1f on fixit floppy I have /dev/wd0s1 & /dev/rwd0s1 Can I mount the /usr partition ??? Assuming I can, and that I find the files I'm particularly keen not to lose, can I get them off , to floppy or by ftp ? They are modest sized source files. I've not been able to find any documentation on using fixit. Could someone point me in right direction. Thanks in advance Dave David Larkin wrote: > Hi, > Is anyone familiar with the error message > > panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs > > I've looked through archives, and seen similar messages during > installation, or creating new filesystems, but I'm getting it > on a system that's been working fine for some time. > > AMD-K6(tm)-2/450 > 256 MB RAM > FUJITSU MPD3173AT > FreeBSD 3.3 > > Suddenly last week I started getting system crashes and had to > run FSCK manually a couple of times. > > I then noticed the following error occuring at regular intervals. > > soft error writing fsbn > > the system has now crashed and now will not boot. > > Changing root device to wd0s1a > WARNING: / was not properly dismounted > swapon: adding /dev/wd0s1b as swap device > Automatic reboot in progress... > /dev/rwd0s1a: 1026 files, 26068 used, 37435 free (283 frags, 4644 > blocks, 0.4% fragmented) > /dev/rwd0s1f: FILESYSTEM CLEAN: SKIPPING CHECKS > /dev/rwd0s1f: clean, 6471325 free (1041541 frags, 678723 blocks, 6.6% > fragmentation) > /dev/rwd0s1e: FILESYSTEM CLEAN: SKIPPING CHECKS > /dev/rwd0s1e: clean, 21123 free (451 frags, 2584 blocks, 1.1% > fragmentation) > panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs > syncing disks... 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 giving up > > Clearly anyone knowing the exact solution would be most welcome. > However interpretation of the error messages to give a best guess on > the following would be a start. > > Is this a disk hardware problem ? > Is it configuration problem ? > Are contents of disk corrupt ? > Could this be anything to do with large filesystems ? > > It's a 17GB disk, and I've recently added new data taking the /usr > partition up to about 65% full. > > Any advice would be welcome, Thanks in Advance > Dave > > ---------------------------------------------------- > David Larkin, > D.J.L. Software Consultancy Ltd. The Industry Centre, > Sunderland Enterprise Park, SR5 3XB UK > Switchboard Tel: 44 191 5152666 Fax: 44 191 5152669 > Direct Line Tel: 44 191 5153527 Fax: 44 191 5153527 > Email David.Larkin@DJL.co.uk > SMS-Email David.Larkin.SMS@DJL.co.uk (Max 160 char) > ----------------------------------------------------- > --------------DD0DE4C5002D1ABE7256855C Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,
Still trying to get to bottom of 'panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs'
problem described below.

I've now booted the fixit floppy

Could someone advise me how to check that certain files
still exist on the hard disk.

I guess I need to mount my /usr partition as /mnt

/usr was /dev/wd0s1f

on fixit floppy I have /dev/wd0s1 & /dev/rwd0s1

Can I mount the /usr partition ???

Assuming I can,  and that I find the files I'm particularly keen
not to lose, can I get them off ,  to floppy or by ftp ?
They are modest sized source files.

I've not been able to find any documentation on using fixit.
Could someone point me in right direction.

Thanks in advance
Dave
 

David Larkin wrote:

Hi,
Is anyone familiar with the error message

panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs

I've looked through archives, and seen similar messages during
installation, or creating new filesystems, but I'm getting it
on a system that's been working fine for some time.

AMD-K6(tm)-2/450
256 MB RAM
FUJITSU MPD3173AT
FreeBSD 3.3

Suddenly last week I started getting system crashes and had to
run FSCK manually a couple of times.

I then noticed the following error occuring at regular intervals.

soft  error writing fsbn

the system has now crashed and now will not boot.

Changing root device to wd0s1a
WARNING: / was not properly dismounted
swapon: adding /dev/wd0s1b as swap device
Automatic reboot in progress...
/dev/rwd0s1a: 1026 files, 26068 used, 37435 free (283 frags, 4644 blocks, 0.4% fragmented)
/dev/rwd0s1f: FILESYSTEM CLEAN: SKIPPING CHECKS
/dev/rwd0s1f: clean, 6471325 free (1041541 frags, 678723 blocks, 6.6% fragmentation)
/dev/rwd0s1e: FILESYSTEM CLEAN: SKIPPING CHECKS
/dev/rwd0s1e: clean, 21123 free (451 frags, 2584 blocks, 1.1% fragmentation)
panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs
syncing disks... 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 giving up

Clearly anyone knowing the exact solution would be most welcome.
However interpretation of the error messages to give a best guess on the following would be a start.

Is this a disk hardware problem ?
Is it configuration problem ?
Are contents of disk corrupt ?
Could this be anything to do with large filesystems ?

It's a 17GB disk, and I've recently added new data taking the /usr
partition up to about 65% full.

Any advice would be welcome, Thanks in Advance
Dave 

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D.J.L. Software Consultancy Ltd. The Industry Centre, 
Sunderland Enterprise Park, SR5 3XB  UK
Switchboard Tel: 44 191 5152666 Fax: 44 191 5152669
Direct Line Tel: 44 191 5153527 Fax: 44 191 5153527
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> Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 08:01:03 +1000
> From: Jesse Reynolds 
> Subject: Fujitsu Laptop can't find anything after booting
> 
> Hi
> 
> I am not a subscriber to freebsd-questions so if you could cc your 
> replies to 'lizst@va.com.au' that would great, thankyou.
> 
> I've tried 3.4-R and 4.0-R on this Fujitsu 735D laptop I have... I 
> have it dualbooting, with the FreeBSD boot manager, NT 4 is installed 
> in a partition that takes up the first 500Mb of the disk and this 
> boots fine.... I'm now trying to install FreeBSD in a partition that 
> takes up the rest of the disk - a 1.6Gb disk.
> 
> When I choose "F2 - FreeBSD" from the bootmanager, it boots the 
> kernel fine, going through initialising the devices etc... then the 
> last screen I can see has thing like the following:
> 
> find: not found
> date: not found
> uname: not found
> cp /etc/motd - not found
> can't exec getty - /usr/libexec/getty for /dev/ttyv0
> can't exec getty - /usr/libexec/getty for /dev/ttyv1
> can't exec getty - /usr/libexec/getty for /dev/ttyv2
> can't exec getty - /usr/libexec/getty for /dev/ttyv3
> can't exec getty - /usr/libexec/getty for /dev/ttyv4
> can't exec getty - /usr/libexec/getty for /dev/ttyv5
> can't exec getty - /usr/libexec/getty for /dev/ttyv6
> can't exec getty - /usr/libexec/getty for /dev/ttyv7
> 
> 
> so I'm wondering what's going on! I tried to have only one FreeBSD 
> slice within it's 'dos partition'. Perhaps I have to have a separate 
> /usr partition?

Note on terminology.  In FreeBSD, a "slice" is the same thing as a 
"partition" in DOS/NT.  A FreeBSD "partition" is a subset of a 
"slice", and corresponds to a mountable volume.  So you can't put 
a FreeBSD "slice" in a DOS "partition" (you can fake it, but that 
isn't what you've described).

It doesn't sound like it has anything to do with your problem, unless 
when you say "/usr partition" you mean "slice".

> 
> Perhaps some of these executables have to be in the first 500Mb of the disk...
> 


That is probably it.  The / (root) partition has to be in the first 1024 
cylinders of the disk, because it uses BIOS calls to boot.  I don't 
know the boot process well enough to tell you if these particular 
errors would be a result of that.

The root partition usually only requires 30 - 50 MB, so I would 
consider using Partition Magic or a similar utility to steal that 
much space from the end of the NT partition (Partition Magic 5.0 
can resize NTFS partitions), and make it a FreeBSD slice that 
contains the / partition.  The remainder of the drive can be another 
FreeBSD slice that contains your other FreeBSD partitions.  By 
creating a separate slice for the / partition, you can force it to 
be exactly where you want it on the disk.  With care, you may be able 
to do this without a separate slice, but if you don't run out of 
partitions, why bother?

If the NT partition does not already fill the first 1024 cylinders, 
you may not need to resize it.  You may simply need to create two 
FreeBSD slices: one that exists entirely within the first 1024 
cylinders, and one that can extend beyond them.  This gives you a 
way to guarantee that the entire / partition is within the first 
1024 cylinders.

Since you already have NT installed, it may be too late for this, 
but using LBA mode to access the disk usually extends the 1024 
cylinder boundary well beyond 500 MB.

Good luck.

-- Bob
 
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This is mystifying.  I have a server running 3.0-R that serves DNS, ntp,
NIS, NFS, sendmail, imap, pop, majordomo, DHCP, and syslog.  That might
seem like a lot but the user base is small (less than 100) and the machine
count is something less than 256.  NFS serving is minor for this machine.
Most NFS load is on a different system.  The cpu load is normally very low
and the machine just hums along, usually.

The strange things is that every once in a blue moon this system goes
belly-up with the message "/var out of inodes" on the console.

After rebooting it looks like this:

# df -i -t ufs
Filesystem  1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity iused   ifree  %iused  Mounted on
/dev/da0s1a     99183    20053    71196    22%    1015   24071     4%   /
/dev/da0s1e    992239      548   912312     0%      36  249818     0%   /tmp
/dev/da0s1f   1984479   834699   991022    46%  102187  397779    20%   /usr
/dev/da0s1g   1984479   536817  1288904    29%    9222  490744     2%   /var

Note that /var only has 2% of inodes in use!  Hunting through my log
files I don't find any clues suggesting what happened.

Has anyone seen anything like this before or have any thoughts what the
cause might be?  It happens so infrequently that I don't get many chances
to try to debug it, and when it does the priority is to get it back online
as quickly as possible being that it's a critical resource.  (Everything
but ntp and the e-mail services are redundantly served by other machines,
but of course panic sets in quickly when people can't check their e-mail
once per minute!)  If I'm not right here when it happens, someone else
reboots it and I don't even get to see the console!

-Mitch


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* Bart Lateur  [000509 06:54] wrote:
> On Tue, 09 May 2000 19:54:21 +0700, Trisnadi Sutrisno wrote:
> 
> >I've installed FreeBSD 4.0 on my Dell system, it takes very LONG probing
> >on startup. Is there any way to shorten that probing?
> 
> You've unchecked most of the SCSI devices? These probes alone may, by
> default, take close to an hour.

An hour?  More like 15-20 seconds for scsi and 15-30 seconds
for the old IDE probes.

Where exactly does it take an hour?

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Where can I buy the FreeBSD 4.0 CDROMS (walnut Creek) in the UK? I only
seem to be able to find version 3.4.

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Gave it a try. No luck whatsoever.  :(
I'm open to idea's if you have any more. This is gonna be the death of
me..

Keith


=================================
I here by change the name
of RedHat to RedSplat.

Keith W.
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On Tue, 9 May 2000, Frank Schoenmann wrote:

> hi keith!
> 
> Tuesday, May 09, 2000, 9:54:55 AM, you wrote:
> 
> kmtc> How can I get ssi to work globaly in people ~'s? I've followed the
> kmtc> instructions at apache.org. Have included the Options Includes AddType and
> kmtc> AddHandler.  The only way I can get people to have ssi enabled is if they
> kmtc> have Options Includes in their personal .htaccess file. I prefer to have
> kmtc> it done individualy as opposed to globaly. It's just that now that I know
> kmtc> it does not work globaly for some reason, it also means I don't know why
> kmtc> it's working on an individual basis... Confusion.    :-/
> 
> Have you tried something like the following in your apache configuration?
> 
> 
>     AllowOverride FileInfo AuthConfig Limit
>     Options MultiViews Indexes SymLinksIfOwnerMatch Includes
> 
> 
> 
> >> "Believing oneself to be perfect is often the sign of a delusional mind." -- Data
> -- 
> bye, Frank!
> 
> 



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     Hi!

  For the accounting purposes I have compiled and installed the ifhp filter
port (/usr/ports/print/ifhp). I have attached my HP LaserJet 5P to
the /dev/lpt0 port. Now, when I'm doing the testing examples as
described in the "3.7 Parallel Port" (IFHP-HOWTO), every time I get
the following error:

ifhp 18:53:38.072 [20206] ifhp: fcntl fd 1 F_SETFL failed - Operation
not supported by device
         
I can't figure out, why? May be directly attached printers not
supported?

System:
FreeBSD xxx.kspu.kr.ua 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE #5: Wed Mar
29 19:51:59 EEST 2000     root@xxx.kspu.kr.ua:/usr/src/sys/
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Kernel:
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device          lpt0    at ppbus?                         
device          ppi0    at ppbus?                         

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> Ok, this is really stumping me.
> 
> In linux, by default, I think you get the basic shell or "bash", this
> shell allows you to simply hit the up arrow to go through a bunch of
> your previous command line commands.
> 
> So I install FreeBSD, and lo and behold, I can find no such feature in
> the basic (bourne?) shell.  Is there one?  How about for other shells
> like csh and ssh?
> 
> I may be lazy but it is such a useful feature I can't believe its not
> there somewhere.  help me find it please.
> 
Well, ssh is not a shell, it's an encrypted telnet of sorts (that's the
easy way to describe it, not entirely accurate... but basically what it
is) csh supports what you want, as does tcsh. You can also just get bash
if that's what you like. Take a look in the packages, you will find them
all.

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> but have no luck trying to mount them from FreeBSD.
> How should they be mounted?
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Greets,

http://www.sunhelp.org
http://docs.sun.com

start there.... enjoy (???) :P


At 05/09/2000 08:17 AM Tuesday, James A Wilde wrote:
>Ah, sorry, Dan (and all).  I didn't make myself clear.  It's the FreeBSD
>side I'm good at - well, better - and, yes, I do have Greg's book - paid for
>itself within a week.  It's the Solaris side I need help with.
>
>mvh/regards
>
>James
>
> > | Does anyone have any good guidelines to books or other
> > reference material
> > | which will help me get up to speed in an environment where I
> > can hardly find
> > | my way around the /etc directory?  Grateful for any suggestions.
> >
> > "The Complete FreeBSD" by Greg Lehey ISBN:1-57176-246-9
> > available at www.freebsdmall.com or www.nohup.se (swedish).
> >
>
>mvh/regards
>
>James
>
>
>
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> > > I've just upgraded to FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE and KDE 1.1.2 and this is the
> > > message I get when I try to run KDE:
> > > 
> > > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libstdc++.so.3" not found
> > > 


> > Did you install kde 1.1.2 from the port? If not, did you install a
> > binary or compile it from source?



> OK, I installed (package added)
> 
> kdesupport-1.1.2.1
> kdelibs-1.1.2.1
> kdebase-1.1.2
> 
...

Well I don't know the problem, but maybe you're installing the
package meant for 4.0 -- if so, get the packages from the 3.4
distro. Or compile afresh using the ports.

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Three somewhat unrelated questions:

1.  What is the difference between standard bi-directional parallel port
protocol and ECP?  Is ECP faster?

2.  What is the difference between ECP on desktops and laptops?

3.  Has anyone ever done an informal comparison between Applix for BSD and
StarOffice, besides the review a few months back?

jm
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Hi all--

Has anyone gotten the xinerama feature to work with XFree86 4.0?

I've got 2 video cards (1 Matrox G400 AGP and one Matrox G200 PCI
video cards, 2 Sony Multiscan 520GS-s) both plugged in.  I've got the
XF86Config set up as shown below, but when I try to run with either
dual-head or "Ultra" wide screens, the secondary monitor has vertical
black lines every centimeter or so.

I built and configured XFree86 out of the ports collection, and
enabled Xinerama in the initial configuration.

Thanks all,

Bryan

##############################
###### Begin XF86Config ######
##############################
Section "Module"
    Load        "dbe"
    SubSection  "extmod"
      Option    "omit xfree86-dga"
    EndSubSection
    Load        "type1"
    Load        "freetype"
EndSection

Section "Files"
    RgbPath	"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier	"Keyboard1"
    Driver	"Keyboard"
    Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
    Option "XkbRules"	"xfree86"
    Option "XkbModel"	"pc104"
    Option "XkbLayout"	"us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier	"Mouse1"
    Driver	"mouse"
    Option "Protocol"    "PS/2"
    Option "Device"      "/dev/psm0"
    Option "Buttons"	 "4"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier  "Sony"
	HorizSync	31 - 70
    VertRefresh 55 - 120
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier	"Standard VGA"
    VendorName	"Unknown"
    BoardName	"Unknown"
    Driver     "vga"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "Matrox G400 AGP"
    Driver      "mga"
    BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
    VideoRam 16384
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "Matrox G200 PCI"
    Driver      "mga"
    BusID       "PCI:2:12:0"
    VideoRam 8192
    Option "pci retry"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier  "Screen 1"
    Device      "Matrox G400 AGP"
    Monitor     "Sony"
    DefaultDepth 16
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       8
        Modes       "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       16
        Modes       "640x480"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       24
        Modes       "1280x1024"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier  "Screen 2"
    Device      "Matrox G200 PCI"
    Monitor     "Sony"
    DefaultDepth 16
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       8
        Modes       "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       16
        Modes       "640x480"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       24
        Modes       "1280x1024"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
   Identifier "Bihead"
   Screen     "Screen 1"
   Screen     "Screen 2" RightOf "Screen 1"
   InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
   InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection


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I was undecided if this should go to questions or to hackers...

I understand that FreeBSD is used a lot for embedded systems. I thought
this would mean that the kernel, libc and some simple userland utilities
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On gcc, embedded systems seem to be OS independent: i386-elf instead of
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I tried to build some userland stuff (ls, csh, strip, make) on Unixware
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Is there any relation between the system being portable and it's use in
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On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 11:22:47AM +0800, Administrator wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sun, 7 May 2000, William Freeman wrote:
> 
> > Administrator wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi...
> > > i have internal modem onboard at my PC..
> > > and my favorite OS is FreeBSD 4.0 Release...
> > > i know that FreeBSD40R can detect onboard hardware like ethernet card
> > > onboard... dc0 (davicom)
> > > my questions is how to find know my internal modem can detected by
> > > freeBSD4.0R...
> > > and how to dialup or dialin use internal modem onboard (card)...
> > > use /dev/cuaa0 or ...???
> > > 
> > 
> > i suppose that it all depends on what type of modem.  winmodem will not
> > work.  anything else should...i love my Viking 56k v.90 external modem,
> > but then, i'm werid like that...makes a cool sound though.
> > 
> > -- 
> i'ms sorry i'm forget ..
> btw here my modem 
> -----------------------------------
> ModemHardwareId=UNIMODEM040124DA
> ModemDescription=HSP56 MicroModem
> PortHardwareId=PTPORT
> PortDescription=HSP Modem Port
                  ^^^

HSP (Host Signal Processing) is a sure sign that it's a Winmodem,
which won't work with anything but Windows. Sorry.

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* Bryan Albright  [000509 11:15] wrote:
> Hi all--
> 
> Has anyone gotten the xinerama feature to work with XFree86 4.0?
> 
> I've got 2 video cards (1 Matrox G400 AGP and one Matrox G200 PCI
> video cards, 2 Sony Multiscan 520GS-s) both plugged in.  I've got the
> XF86Config set up as shown below, but when I try to run with either
> dual-head or "Ultra" wide screens, the secondary monitor has vertical
> black lines every centimeter or so.
> 
> I built and configured XFree86 out of the ports collection, and
> enabled Xinerama in the initial configuration.

haha, I slaved over this same configuration for a whole day, the
problem I had was that the g400 only works properly in completely
unaccelerated mode and even then I need to start, then kill, then
restart X to get it initialised properly.

here's my XF86Config entry for the g400:

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "MGA400 AGP"
    Chipset      "mgag400"
    Driver      "mga"
    VideoRam    32768
    BusID	"PCI:1:0:0"
    Option	"NoAccel"
    Option      "NoHWCursor"
EndSection

best of luck,
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Check to see if you can telnet/ftp/etc into the freebsd box from the
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> tjeerd hoogendijk wrote:
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> I have a question about the gateway option in freebsd 4.0. The
> installation of freebsd was no problem then i found out how to connect
> with my modem to my isp so far no problems. but when I tryed to share
> my connection with a win98 box it wouldn't work i have red the
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Please list this at totally confused question #21,214,643,456  (I took a 
number from the  little machine by the counter)

I have a functional 3.2 and a functional 3.3 running.. both servers run 
Apache and both start Apache with the same rc.local file that is shown in 
the Lehey book and other places..

I have just recently installed at 3.4 server, and when I went to install 
the required code in  the rc.local file... was dumbfounded to discover that 
no such file exists in the /etc directory...

1) Is this the was it is "supposed to be" or do I need to copy a rc.local 
file from one of the other two servers
2) If the answer to #1 is "YES" then how do you run Apache .. inetd? My 
(limited) understanding is that inetd was NOT the preferred way to run Apache..

Thank in advance for you patience
Ryugen, that "Old Frog" hisself
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I have a question about setting up firewalls.

I currently running version 3.2 of FreeBSD. I am trying to set up a firewall
that will allow users on the system to 'telnet" and 'ftp" out of the system, but
will not let any other type of connection to the system. I have been able to get
every thing to work correctly except the "ftp". I have been able to make the
connection out to the remote hosts but have not been able to set up a rule that
will allow the remote host to setup a connection to send the data. I an sure
this has been done before, could someone show me the correct rule that will
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hello,
recently i was editiong my rc.conf file and i think that i made a
mistakesome where. now when i logon i get this error that looks
somewhat like this:

/bin/rc.conf "some error, i forget":14 
enter the startup shell or press return to run /bin/sh
#

at the prompt i typed a number of things and nothing worked. what can
i do to be able to get to logon and how do i fix my error

(my usual shell is tcsh, and im new at this so please make it
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thanks,
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On Tue, 09 May 2000 at 13:09:39 -0500, Ryugen C. Fisher wrote:
> Please list this at totally confused question #21,214,643,456  (I
> took a number from the little machine by the counter)
> 
> I have a functional 3.2 and a functional 3.3 running.. both servers
> run Apache and both start Apache with the same rc.local file that is
> shown in the Lehey book and other places..
>
> I have just recently installed at 3.4 server, and when I went to
> install  the required code in  the rc.local file... was dumbfounded to
> discover that no such file exists in the /etc directory...

Hmm, IIRC, rc.local hasn't existed since 3.0, unless you created it.

> 1) Is this the way it is "supposed to be" or do I need to copy a
> rc.local file from one of the other two servers

Aye.  See above.

> 2) If the answer to #1 is "YES" then how do you run Apache
> .. inetd?  My (limited) understanding is that inetd was NOT the
> preferred way to run Apache..

With a script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d.  If you're using the port, one
will be created for you.  If not, create this as apache.sh, put it in
/usr/local/etc/rc.d, and make it executable..

#!/bin/sh
[ -x /usr/local/sbin/apachectl ] && /usr/local/sbin/apachectl start > /dev/null && echo -n ' apache'

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On  9 May, Salvo Bartolotta wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> 
> On 5/9/00, 5:27:29 AM, Nate Puri  wrote 
> regarding APM & 4.0:
> 
> 
>> Hi all,
> 
>> I have a dell inspiron 3000.  I have the following entry in my GENERIC
>> kernel config
> 
>> device          apm0    at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power
>> Management
> 
>> Is there something wrong with this for my machine?  I can suspend and
>> resume just fine.  However, time does not update.  Time stays at the
>> exact place where it was when I suspended the machine.  Thanks...
> 
>> -nate
> 
> 
> # apm: Laptop Advanced Power Management (experimental)
> 
> 
> 
> # Notes on APM
> #  The flags takes the following meaning for apm0:
> #  0x0020  Statclock is broken.
> #  If apm is omitted, some systems require sysctl -w 
> kern.timecounter.method=1
> #  for correct timekeeping.
> 
> Have you had a look at the apm man pages ?

Yes, that and apmd.  I put in the kern.timecournter.method=1 command. It
did not change the sitution.  When I run apmd, ps ax | grep apmd outputs
'grep apmd'.  So apmd is not running and will not run for some reason
even though I have it built into the kernel....

> Actually, I don't use a laptop, but I hope this helps.
> 
> Best regards,
> Salvo
> 
> 
> 
> 
	
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Try writing a shell script and putting it in /usr/local/etc/rc.d

Your machine will execute and .sh script in that directory during bootup.


I

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Ryugen C.
> Fisher
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 11:10 AM
> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Apache and rc.local
> 
> 
> Please list this at totally confused question #21,214,643,456 
>  (I took a 
> number from the  little machine by the counter)
> 
> I have a functional 3.2 and a functional 3.3 running.. both 
> servers run 
> Apache and both start Apache with the same rc.local file that 
> is shown in 
> the Lehey book and other places..
> 
> I have just recently installed at 3.4 server, and when I went 
> to install 
> the required code in  the rc.local file... was dumbfounded to 
> discover that 
> no such file exists in the /etc directory...
> 
> 1) Is this the was it is "supposed to be" or do I need to 
> copy a rc.local 
> file from one of the other two servers
> 2) If the answer to #1 is "YES" then how do you run Apache .. 
> inetd? My 
> (limited) understanding is that inetd was NOT the preferred 
> way to run Apache..
> 
> Thank in advance for you patience
> Ryugen, that "Old Frog" hisself
> Ryugen@palaver.org
> 
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Thank you for pointing to /usr/share/examples/atapi/{burndata,burnaudio}
and to /usr/share/examples/worm/burncd.sh. The docs didn't point explicitely
to wormcontrol(8) or I didn't find them right away ;-).

However, I'd still prefer to use cdrecord, since it supports much more
options and seems IMHO more flexible.

>ATAPI is SCSI commands sent over IDE transport.
>The natural way of implementing
>this transport is to add a IDE specific hostadapter driver to the SCSI
>subsystem. If the authors of an OS decide to implement ATAPI in a different
>way, cdrecord will not work for ATAPI drives on this OS.
What would be the best FreeBSD-way to access such a IDE hostadapter over
the SCSI subsystem so that cdrecord would work? Isn't the scsi-passthru
'pass0' device appropriate for this?

Maybe a KLD-module would help? Is someone working on it? A low-level access
to SCSI and IDE would probably also be useful for other programs besides
cdrecord as well.

-Farid.

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I've searched for the answer to this question, but I've been unable to
find it elsewhere, so I'm trying this list. :)

I'm running 3.3-RELEASE.  I would like people who have accounts on my box
to be able to use my POP server to send e-mail wherever they want.  So if
someone has, for example, pacbell as their ISP,  but they also have an
account on my machine (100acre.com), I want them to be able to access
their account on 100acre, and send mail from it, as well.  

Right now, if someone tries to send mail using Outlook, etc., they get a
"relaying denied" error.  So if someone from AOL, for example, sends an
e-mail to my user, and my user checks his account by dialing into his ISP
(pacbell) and downloading his mail from my box with Outlook, when he tries
to reply (to the originator, with the AOL address), he'll get a relaying
denied error.

How can I stop that from happening?

Regards,

Dan Brownstone
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Hello!

I'm running a fresh load of FreeBSD 4.0.  I've got 10 SCSI disks running on
an Adaptec 39160 which appear to work fine with file systems.

I remove the file systems from fstab and reboot.  All the labels look like
this:

# /dev/rda0c:
type: SCSI
disk: da0s1
label:
flags:
bytes/sector: 512
sectors/track: 51
tracks/cylinder: 166
sectors/cylinder: 8466
cylinders: 2118
sectors/unit: 17938986
rpm: 3600
interleave: 1
trackskew: 0
cylinderskew: 0
headswitch: 0           # milliseconds
track-to-track seek: 0  # milliseconds
drivedata: 0

8 partitions:
#        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  c: 17938986        0    unused        0     0         # (Cyl.    0 -
2118*)
  e: 17938986        0    4.2BSD     1024  8192    16   # (Cyl.    0 -
2118*)

I start vinum with "kldload vinum" and issue the following command:

vinum "create -f striping" where "striping" is the following:

drive d0 device /dev/da0e
drive d1 device /dev/da1e
drive d2 device /dev/da2e
drive d3 device /dev/da3e
drive d4 device /dev/da4e
drive d5 device /dev/da5e
drive d6 device /dev/da6e
drive d7 device /dev/da7e
drive d8 device /dev/da8e
drive d9 device /dev/da9e
volume raid
 plex org striped 512k
  sd length 0 drive d0
  sd length 0 drive d1
  sd length 0 drive d2
  sd length 0 drive d3
  sd length 0 drive d4
  sd length 0 drive d5
  sd length 0 drive d6
  sd length 0 drive d7
  sd length 0 drive d8
  sd length 0 drive d9

If I understand the docs, this should use the entire disk.  Unfortunately,
the resulting volume is of size 0!

So I try to create with the following:

drive d0 device /dev/da0e
drive d1 device /dev/da1e
drive d2 device /dev/da2e
drive d3 device /dev/da3e
drive d4 device /dev/da4e
drive d5 device /dev/da5e
drive d6 device /dev/da6e
drive d7 device /dev/da7e
drive d8 device /dev/da8e
drive d9 device /dev/da9e
volume raid
 plex org striped 512k
  sd length 512k drive d0
  sd length 512k drive d1
  sd length 512k drive d2
  sd length 512k drive d3
  sd length 512k drive d4
  sd length 512k drive d5
  sd length 512k drive d6
  sd length 512k drive d7
  sd length 512k drive d8
  sd length 512k drive d9

This works OK every now and then.  Very often the server crashes!  Of
course, the resulting volume is too small to be useful.  As a test I run
"vinum resetconfig" followed by "vinum create -f striping" again.  This time
the server crashes.  It's the exact same config file!

Am I doing something wrong?  I've got to believe that there is something
wrong with my procedure or my machine because it is *really* unstable and
doesn't appear to operate as advertised.  Any ideas / help would be
appreciated!

Regards,
Rick



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From owner-freebsd-questions  Tue May  9 11:58:14 2000
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Three possible solutions: 1 - tell your users to use their ISP-proveded
outgoing smtp server (this is the solution most people opt for-
ourselves included here)

2 - setup sendmail to allow relaying for anyone, (NOT a good idea,
because if someone else get's word they could easily abuse it!)

3 - force user authentication upon sending, this can be done from most
mail clients, (including but definetly not limited to Outlook), - to be
completely honest I've never attempted this, and I'm not sure how one
would accomplish this using sendmail, I'm assuming this kind of thing
would probably be easier to setup using qmail.

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Daniel Brownstone wrote:
> 
> I've searched for the answer to this question, but I've been unable to
> find it elsewhere, so I'm trying this list. :)
> 
> I'm running 3.3-RELEASE.  I would like people who have accounts on my box
> to be able to use my POP server to send e-mail wherever they want.  So if
> someone has, for example, pacbell as their ISP,  but they also have an
> account on my machine (100acre.com), I want them to be able to access
> their account on 100acre, and send mail from it, as well.
> 
> Right now, if someone tries to send mail using Outlook, etc., they get a
> "relaying denied" error.  So if someone from AOL, for example, sends an
> e-mail to my user, and my user checks his account by dialing into his ISP
> (pacbell) and downloading his mail from my box with Outlook, when he tries
> to reply (to the originator, with the AOL address), he'll get a relaying
> denied error.
> 
> How can I stop that from happening?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dan Brownstone
> jkirk@100acre.com
> 
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> fam van der Werf wrote:
> 
> Is the handbook of Freebsd in a doc file or something so that I can
> print it immediatly in one time?????

I find printing a pdf the best. You can find one of those to download
at ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/. You have your choices of
languages. For Engish, you end up at
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/.
They also have a .ps version as well as an .rtf. Depending on your
system, you can choose the one that prints the fastest. The Handbook
is close to 600 pages and I prefer duplex printed manuals. It will be
a while once you start printing :).

Cheers,

Kent

> 
> A. van der Werf
> 

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Just write up scripts to do the work.  Since your web server will likely
not have access to certain files it will not be able to do it alone.
Instead, as I have thought of doing it, you can register the request to a
database.

Once that request is in the database you can have it processed by a daemon
process or a cron job which runs routinely to handle those requests.  A
daemon process could open the database every 30 seconds and look for
requests, or the cron job could run every 15 minutes.  It depends on how
quickly you need requests processed.  After the request is processed it
can be marked as completed and stay in the database as a log for work
completed, or possibly incomplete requests which need attention.

If you need to add a user account or a new pop account you will need to
understand the add user functions of your system and how to set up a new
pop account and how to route mail to that account.  You can do this simply
with no features or get very sophisticated.  It can go as far as your
programming and admin skills go.  There may be some useful scripts at
Freshmeat.net.  This is a common enough need.
(see below for ideas)

Each night you can have a cron job run to send you a report of jobs
completed and the status of each request: pass or fail.  Tracking the
automatic requests will be very important when looking for bugs in this
new system.  Mistakes will happen.  It will be nice to have a detailed
list of requests and results to fix them.  Eventually mistakes will become
extremely rare given some care in eliminating them.

Ideas To Implement -

Adduser
If you can get the adduser utility to run without user interaction that
could be a major help.  So far in my brief test it always asks for input.
Perhaps you can modify adduser to do what you want it to do.  It is a perl
script afterall.

Read...

man adding_user

The "adding_user" man page may guide you to a solution.

New Email
If you hope to add an email address, the easiest way would be to have a
database mirror of the virtusertable for sendmail.  You can simply update
the database (and error check against) when making a request and then once
the process comes around to process the request it can output the
addresses to a text file and rebuild the dbm file which sendmail uses to
route all of the mail.

I bet you could have this going in about one days time, assuming adduser
is simple enough to modify.

Anyone on the list have any suggestions?

Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin
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On Tue, 9 May 2000, Sergio Arias wrote:

> how can i make a e-mail account automatic, reading data from a html
> 
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On Tue, 09 May 2000 at 12:00:05 -0700, Kent Stewart wrote:
> > fam van der Werf wrote:
> > 
> > Is the handbook of Freebsd in a doc file or something so that I can
> > print it immediatly in one time?????
> 
> I find printing a pdf the best. You can find one of those to download
> at ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/. You have your choices of
> languages. For Engish, you end up at
> ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/.
> They also have a .ps version as well as an .rtf. Depending on your
> system, you can choose the one that prints the fastest. The Handbook
> is close to 600 pages and I prefer duplex printed manuals. It will be
> a while once you start printing :).

Or you can wait a month or so and buy a hardcopy version when it hits
the stores.

- jim

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You need to build a list of allowable relays and make sure you build the
feature into your cf file when doing the m4. Add this line to your mc file

FEATURE(relay_hosts_only, hash -o /etc/sendmail.access.db)dnl

I may be mistaken though, it's been a while since I've built one. You will
also need to have a list of allowable relays with this kind of format

domain.com	RELAY
domain2.com	REJECT
 
Like that. Then hash the file out
makemap -v hash /etc/mail/sendmail.domains.db <
/etc/mail/domains/domain.com

Or whatever your paths are. Best bet is to go here and read up on it. 

http://www.sendmail.org/tips/relaying.html


=================================
I here by change the name
of RedHat to RedSplat.

Keith W.
At the helm 
=================================


On Tue, 9 May 2000, Daniel Brownstone wrote:

> 
> I've searched for the answer to this question, but I've been unable to
> find it elsewhere, so I'm trying this list. :)
> 
> I'm running 3.3-RELEASE.  I would like people who have accounts on my box
> to be able to use my POP server to send e-mail wherever they want.  So if
> someone has, for example, pacbell as their ISP,  but they also have an
> account on my machine (100acre.com), I want them to be able to access
> their account on 100acre, and send mail from it, as well.  
> 
> Right now, if someone tries to send mail using Outlook, etc., they get a
> "relaying denied" error.  So if someone from AOL, for example, sends an
> e-mail to my user, and my user checks his account by dialing into his ISP
> (pacbell) and downloading his mail from my box with Outlook, when he tries
> to reply (to the originator, with the AOL address), he'll get a relaying
> denied error.
> 
> How can I stop that from happening?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dan Brownstone
> jkirk@100acre.com
> 
> 
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Nathan Vidican said on May  9, 2000 at 14:58:23:
> Three possible solutions: 1 - tell your users to use their ISP-proveded
> outgoing smtp server (this is the solution most people opt for-
> ourselves included here)
> 
> 2 - setup sendmail to allow relaying for anyone, (NOT a good idea,
> because if someone else get's word they could easily abuse it!)

You can permit relaying from selected hosts or selected subnets.
If the users have permanent IP addresses, or their addresses are
all from the same subnet (and there aren't any potential spammers
among them), there's no problem doing this.  It can be done in
sendmail, but offhand I can't tell you how. In qmail you can run it
off tcpserver and have a rules file for tcpserver telling it which
hosts/networks are allowed to relay. The qmail FAQ gives details.


> 
> 3 - force user authentication upon sending, this can be done from most
> mail clients, (including but definetly not limited to Outlook), - to be
> completely honest I've never attempted this, and I'm not sure how one
> would accomplish this using sendmail, I'm assuming this kind of thing
> would probably be easier to setup using qmail.
> 
> -- 
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> 
> 
> Daniel Brownstone wrote:
> > 
> > I've searched for the answer to this question, but I've been unable to
> > find it elsewhere, so I'm trying this list. :)
> > 
> > I'm running 3.3-RELEASE.  I would like people who have accounts on my box
> > to be able to use my POP server to send e-mail wherever they want.  So if
> > someone has, for example, pacbell as their ISP,  but they also have an
> > account on my machine (100acre.com), I want them to be able to access
> > their account on 100acre, and send mail from it, as well.
> > 
> > Right now, if someone tries to send mail using Outlook, etc., they get a
> > "relaying denied" error.  So if someone from AOL, for example, sends an
> > e-mail to my user, and my user checks his account by dialing into his ISP
> > (pacbell) and downloading his mail from my box with Outlook, when he tries
> > to reply (to the originator, with the AOL address), he'll get a relaying
> > denied error.
> > 
> > How can I stop that from happening?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Dan Brownstone
> > jkirk@100acre.com
> > 
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I have a number of networks that feature two freebsd boxes connected to 
each other via Ethernet ports and a reversing cable. Only static routing 
is used.

================================Internet
   |
   |    ^ default route
[fbsd1]
   |    v inside network route
   |
================================Internediate Ethernet (/30)
   |
   |    ^ default route
[fbsd2]
   |    v inside network route   
   |
================================Inside Network

When a power failure occurs, sometimes fbsd1 powers up before fbsd2 and 
in so doing establishes its static route for the inside network before 
it can see the fbsd2 interface.  Doing the best job it can, it selects 
the default route back to the Internet.  Not good enough.

Unfortunately, the -interface flag to the route command doesn't help as 
the inside network is not directly connected to the fbsd1 box.

Yes, even routed would solve the problem and yes, I could put a time 
delay in fbsd1 to wait until fbsd2 comes up.  It just seems like there 
should be a simple solution that I am missing.

Is there an easy way to do this? 

Jim Flowers 
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> For exploration I have FreeBSD3.4, SolarisX86 and linux on the same box.
> I can mount the solaris partitions from linux and read them with no
> problems,
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Hello;

I'm using freebsd 3.4 with xwindows.
I'm using xterm for windows to different sessions.
Sometimes my session windows do not refresh properly. I was wondering how I 
could fix that.


for instance:
  ca,ppp,moffinn AUTH REQUEST 89 Framed-Netmask = 255.255.255.255

should look like:
ca,ppp,moffinn AUTH REQUEST 89

(the above is a cut and paste)

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Jim Mock wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 09 May 2000 at 12:00:05 -0700, Kent Stewart wrote:
> > > fam van der Werf wrote:
> > >
> > > Is the handbook of Freebsd in a doc file or something so that I can
> > > print it immediatly in one time?????
> >
> > I find printing a pdf the best. You can find one of those to download
> > at ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/. You have your choices of
> > languages. For Engish, you end up at
> > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/.
> > They also have a .ps version as well as an .rtf. Depending on your
> > system, you can choose the one that prints the fastest. The Handbook
> > is close to 600 pages and I prefer duplex printed manuals. It will be
> > a while once you start printing :).
> 
> Or you can wait a month or so and buy a hardcopy version when it hits
> the stores.

I like that choice. It won't hurt as much when I fall asleep reading
it and it whacks me in the face :).

Cheers,

Kent

> 
> - jim
> 
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todd ritzka wrote:
> 
> hello,
> recently i was editiong my rc.conf file and i think that i made a
> mistakesome where. now when i logon i get this error that looks
> somewhat like this:
> 
> /bin/rc.conf "some error, i forget":14
> enter the startup shell or press return to run /bin/sh
> #
> 
> at the prompt i typed a number of things and nothing worked. what can
> i do to be able to get to logon and how do i fix my error
> 
> (my usual shell is tcsh, and im new at this so please make it
> simple:)

Well, tcsh probably won't work at this point and your only choice is
/bin/sh. Nothing else is mounted. The SA response is usually "We can't
help unless you tell us what the message is". The number of choices is
really pretty large. I have made the error of having unbalanced '"'
and the system complains pretty well and leaves you at the setup mode.
It seems like a couple of weeks ago I did the following.

1 choose /bin/sh because I don't think you have a choice at this
point.

2 "mount -a"  This is to load /usr, which is a different file system
on my machine. The only editor in /bin is ed and if you can't mount
/usr, you will learn ed.

3 cd /etc
4 vi rc.conf and get rid of the error.
5 reboot and see if you fixed the error.

If nothing works, you can probably get away with doing "mv rc.conf
rc.conf.old" and reboot.

Kent

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Archimedes wrote to freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG:

> Ok, this is really stumping me.
> 
> In linux, by default, I think you get the basic shell or "bash", this
> shell allows you to simply hit the up arrow to go through a bunch of
> your previous command line commands.
> 
> So I install FreeBSD, and lo and behold, I can find no such feature in
> the basic (bourne?) shell.  Is there one?  How about for other shells
> like csh and ssh?

Actually, csh is the default shell in FreeBSD.  Type `h`  (aliased to show
the last few lines of history), and, to execute the command numbered
"123" for example, simply type !123 at your command prompt.  (Or !! to
execute the LAST command).  If you want to execute, say, the third last
command that you did, try !-3.  Note that you can append to the command.

For example, if you just finished typing "ll -d a*", and received more
than a screenful, instead of typing all of that again, simply type 
"!! | more" to pipe the output through your pager.

That being said, bash is available in the ports/packages.  Assuming you
opted to install the ports collection when you installed FreeBSD, type 
"cd /usr/ports/shells/bash2 && make all install"

Then, add /usr/local/bin/bash to /etc/shells, type "chsh" from your user
account and use bash as your shell.  Note that it is generally not
considered a good idea to use bash as your root shell.

> 
> I may be lazy but it is such a useful feature I can't believe its not
> there somewhere.  help me find it please.
> 

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Three somewhat unrelated questions:

1.  What is the difference between standard bi-directional parallel port
protocol and ECP?  Is ECP faster?

They are both bi-directional protocols, I forget the exact difference
between the 2 but yes ECP is faster.


2.  What is the difference between ECP on desktops and laptops?


There shouldbe no difference...

Gene


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>I've searched for the answer to this question, but I've been unable to
>find it elsewhere, so I'm trying this list. :)

I guess you didn't look in the sendmail FAQ.


>I'm running 3.3-RELEASE.  I would like people who have accounts on my box
>to be able to use my POP server to send e-mail wherever they want.  So if
>someone has, for example, pacbell as their ISP,  but they also have an
>account on my machine (100acre.com), I want them to be able to access
>their account on 100acre, and send mail from it, as well.  

See:
http://www.cynic.net/~cjs/computer/sendmail/poprelay.html

or:
http://spam.abuse.net/tools/smPbS.html

-Mitch


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Hi,

	Has anyone been able to view TIFF-F files? (Most of these online
FAX services send your FAX's to you either in their own format (Which you
need Windows to run their viewer), or in TIFF-F (TIFF-Fax).  I can load
the image in a image viewer, but that is only one page (and doesn't work
with multiple page faxes).  I have tried ghostview, but it bombs loading
the images...

Is there some converter I can run, or a UNIX viewer I can use to view
these faxes with?

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Hey Everyone.

Is there some software available that can listen via bpf interfaces and
make reports and graphs showing utilization ?

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I've just moved to a local with no broadband network support, and find
myself needing a modem. For now, I've hijacked one of the motherboard
serial ports and borrowed a modem, but this is temporary. I'd like a
solution that avoids putting more ISA devices in the system, but it's
not clear what will - or won't - work with 4.0-RELEASE.

The options seem to be (in order of preference):

1) A PCI card modem. Do any work? The drivers recognize a "VIA 82C686
   AC97 Modem", but that 1) looks like a motherboard, and 2) I don't
   see any other support for it.

2) A USB modem. /usr/src/sys/dev/umodem.c exists, but looks like
   stubs, and USB modems aren't mentioned in either the GENERIC or LINT
   kernels. Anyone know if one or more of those will work?

3) A PCI I/O card. Again - are there any that work? There's a
   "cyclades" driver; anyone care to provide a product identity I can
   use to purchase a card?

4) An ISA modem or I/O card. Oh well. Recommendations?

	Thanx,
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I am upgrading an older freebsd box to FreeBSD 4.0 stable.

we will call it foobar.foo.com, and we will set up the ed0 device,  
#ifconfig ed0 192.1668.1.1  netmask 255.255.255.0

default route is  192.168.1.254

When I do thusly, 

ifconfig ed0 alias 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255
ifconfig ed0 alias 192.168.1.3 netmask 255.255.255.255
---- snip out the ssdd stuff ------
ifconfig ed0 alias 192.168.1.252 netmask 255.255.255.255

I get the following, at every OTHER invocation of ifconfig.

May 9 14:38:14  foobar routed[79] possible netmask problem between
ed0:192.168.2.xx and ed0:192.168.1.0/24  ( where xx = every other ip
number. )  this message is repeated 3 times.


and this message also;

May 9 14:38:14 foobar /kernel arp_rtrequest: bad gateway value
May 9 14:38:14 foobar last message repeated 17 times
May 9 14:39:38 foobar last message repeated 106 times

Now, ifconfig shows that the ip's are indead bound to the card, and, I
can ping SOME of them, but some give me this error.

/kernel: arplookup 192.168.1.143 failed: could not allocate llinfo
/kernel: arpresolve: can't allocate llinfo for 192.168.1.143rt

then some more of these...

/kernel: arp_rtrequest: bad gateway value
last message repeated 347 times
 


So... what am I doing wrong here?

Would someone please give me the correct magical spell to invoke?

I would appreciate knowing the proper way to bind many ip's ( a /24
actually ) to the card, so that when we place this in production, it
works correctly.

Many thanks in advance.

Blaine


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Hi.

I'm sick of building servers myself just to ensure that all the
parts in them will be supported.  Does anyone have a list (or just
suggestions) for packaged, rackable file servers from IBM, Dell,
etc. that work will with FreeBSD?

Thanks in advance.

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Hi.

In search for information on Ultra160 support in FreeBSD, I saw a
couple references in the mail-list archives saying it was or would
be supported in 4.0, but it isn't listed in the 4.0 release notes.
Can anyone tell me when it is expected to be in a -RELEASE version?

Thanks in advance.

Steve


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There is U160 support in that the Qlogic 12160 cards are supported as of
FreeBSD 4.0.


On Tue, 9 May 2000 slumos@nevada.edu wrote:

> 
> Hi.
> 
> In search for information on Ultra160 support in FreeBSD, I saw a
> couple references in the mail-list archives saying it was or would
> be supported in 4.0, but it isn't listed in the 4.0 release notes.
> Can anyone tell me when it is expected to be in a -RELEASE version?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Steve
> 
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Soon I will have the option to have my company purchase me a computer for
the office.  I have a FreeBSD box and an iMac at home which allows me to
do all of the work that I do here.  My only limitation is that I am not
mobile.

I would like to have a laptop, but being connected to the internet and
the development server while at, say, the beach, is not realistic right
now. Instead I would like to have a laptop with a Unix/Linux system on it
which can run apache/perl so that I can do my development work no matter
if I am connected to the internet or not.

Anyone know of how FreeBSD or any other BSD runs on a laptop?  How does X
like a laptop?  Any major or minor concerns?

Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin
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Why not install it using the ports.
I am working with KDE 1.1.2 now and it works .
Prefectly with FreeBSD after I installed it using the ports.

On Sun, 15 Jun 2036, Eduardo Huertas wrote:
> Rahul Siddharthan  wrote:
> > Eduardo Huertas said on May  8, 2000 at 19:10:45:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I've just upgraded to FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE and KDE 1.1.2 and this is the
> > > message I get when I try to run KDE:
> > > 
> > > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libstdc++.so.3" not found
> > > 
> > > I have deinstalled kde 1.1.1 and installed kde 1.1.2 several times in the
> > > order that the documentation from www.kde.org recommends, but the same
> > > symptom. I looked at the archive lists but even though there are
> questions
> > > about the same, didn't find an answer.
> > > 
> > > How can I install "libstdc++.so.3" or what am I missing?
> > 
> > Did you install kde 1.1.2 from the port? If not, did you install a
> > binary or compile it from source?
> > 
> > Rahul.
> > 
> > 
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> OK, I installed (package added)
> 
> kdesupport-1.1.2.1
> kdelibs-1.1.2.1
> kdebase-1.1.2
> 
> In this order as the installation instructions says in www.kde.org.
> 
> Besides:
> kdegames-1.1.2
> kdegraphics-1.1.2
> kdemultimedia-1.1.2
> kdenetwork-1.1.2
> kdeutils-1.1.2
> 
> and before this I installed the dependencies:
> XFree86-3.3.6
> Mesa-3.2
> gettext-0.10.35
> jpeg-6b
> png-1.0.6
> gmake-3.79
> qt-1.45
> tiff-3.5.5
> uulib-0.5.13
> xpm-3.4k
> libtool-1.3.4
> 
> Thank you very much for your help.
> 
> Eduardo.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 14:31:45 -0700, slumos@nevada.edu wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> 
> In search for information on Ultra160 support in FreeBSD, I saw a
> couple references in the mail-list archives saying it was or would
> be supported in 4.0, but it isn't listed in the 4.0 release notes.
> Can anyone tell me when it is expected to be in a -RELEASE version?

As Matt already noted, 4.0 shipped with support for the QLogic Ultra160
boards.  Symbios C1010 Ultra160 boards are also supported in 4.0.

The Adaptec Ultra160 boards (based on the 7892 and 7899) are supported in
4.0, but they only run at 80MB/sec, i.e. Ultra2 speeds, not at 160MB/sec.

If you want the Adaptec chips to run at 160MB/sec, you need the patches
Justin referred to in his mail to the -scsi list today.

Ken
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I've been using the PAO dist on a Toshiba Satellite for a while now, and
it works very well.  From what I've heard, your mileage usually
varies.  The PAO site lists a bunch of supported hardware, and has patches
up to FreeBSD 3.4.

http://www.jp.freebsd.org/PAO

Joe Clarke

On Tue, 9 May 2000, Brennan W Stehling wrote:

> Soon I will have the option to have my company purchase me a computer for
> the office.  I have a FreeBSD box and an iMac at home which allows me to
> do all of the work that I do here.  My only limitation is that I am not
> mobile.
> 
> I would like to have a laptop, but being connected to the internet and
> the development server while at, say, the beach, is not realistic right
> now. Instead I would like to have a laptop with a Unix/Linux system on it
> which can run apache/perl so that I can do my development work no matter
> if I am connected to the internet or not.
> 
> Anyone know of how FreeBSD or any other BSD runs on a laptop?  How does X
> like a laptop?  Any major or minor concerns?
> 
> Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin
> projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com
> 
> Microsoft: Will you get a macro virus today?
> 
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Hello,

I've search for docs and web resources but didnt find anything 'bout this
problem..
After I installed FreeBSD4.0-RELEASE network daemons like proftpd and sshd2
work not correct.. they started ok, but when i connect to them there is a pause
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prompt is appeared. In system logs everything seems to be ok. I think that
these apps are waiting for some Skey os SSL authentication, not receiving it
and then goes to normal clear-text auth. Proftpd was installed from packages
and sshd2 from source code. Please help.

  And another question: how can i uninstall OpenSSH and kerberos software from
my system? Shall i make world?

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Get a second computer from second hand computer stores and install FreeBSD on
that box. Called it (playpen).

From memory to solve your problem.

Well firstly you did to have what is known as the magical "bootdisk" . Then run
fdisk. then choose 4 to see you have a fat /BSD partion

Choose 3
Choose 4 to delete non dos partitions

Press Esc.

After it boots up the second time type in fdisk/mbr this will reinstall your
masterboot record .

On Tue, 09 May 2000, Joss Scholten wrote:
> Hi,
>   
>   I have been reading in to Perl, CGI-Scripts, but into doing so have discovered I need a UNIX server to run the web page on.  I found this OS, and thought that it may be of use to me.   I followed the majority of the instructions, but I do not remember what I did exactly, and now have found that I can not get Window's (Win 98) to get in to once more.  I installed it in the DOS prompt using disks, placing the kern.flp on one disk and mfsroot.flp on the other.  Right now, what I have done doesn't matter.  I have tried using Partition Magic and the 'FIPS' executable included in the file transfer protocol, but I can not repartition the hard drive because I did not use them at first.
>      I am running out of options, and over 5 years of data which is very important to me is on the drive.  Right now when I bring up the C drive, I am presented with 15 files.  Although I assume these files are for the FreeBSD partition of the drive, I am worried.  Can you please help  me in any way possible?  
> 
>      Gratefully,
>         Joss Scholten
> 
> 
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Yes AtDot is such a amazing program. I will never use any other web based email
client.

I here AtDot 3 will be coming out soon. Maybe you should try it out.
www.atdot.org


On Tue, 09 May 2000, Nathan Vidican wrote:
> Check out AtDot, you can easily customize it to do whatcha want, it's
> all cgi based, written in PERL. (We are currently utilizing a somewhat
> hacked-up copy of AtDot's webmail software on our site if you'd like to
> check it out?)
>     http://www.atdot.org is where you're going to want to look I
> believe.
> 
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> > anyone reccomend a good web based pop mail client?
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I must have missed something.  :-)  I'm suddenly seeing this term used a
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fairly good idea what it *means*, but not exactly what it *stands for*.

Thanks!

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>The Adaptec Ultra160 boards (based on the 7892 and 7899) are supported in
>4.0, but they only run at 80MB/sec, i.e. Ultra2 speeds, not at 160MB/sec.
>
>If you want the Adaptec chips to run at 160MB/sec, you need the patches
>Justin referred to in his mail to the -scsi list today.

I distinctly remember someone saying the same thing about 3.4-R a
while back, and that 4.0-R would have the 160MB/s support.

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I've just installed an internal Quantum DLT 4000 tape system into a
machine and assumed things would be as they were with the old tape device
as far as the device name and all. Here is how things are going so far,
with little success I might add. I've no experience with DLT so any advice
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# mt -f /dev/nrsa0 status
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Any idea's as to what may be the problem.

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Microsoft Foundation Class

Basically means all Microsoft's add ons and such.

-scott


On Tue, 9 May 2000, Conrad Sabatier wrote:

> I must have missed something.  :-)  I'm suddenly seeing this term used a
> lot in these lists, but don't recall how or when it got started.  I have a
> fairly good idea what it *means*, but not exactly what it *stands for*.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -- 
> Conrad Sabatier
> http://members.home.net/conrads/
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> 
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On Tue, 9 May 2000, Matthew Jacob wrote:

> There is U160 support in that the Qlogic 12160 cards are supported as of
> FreeBSD 4.0.

U160 support for the Symbios C1010 controller is also available in 4.0, as
you know, Matt. ;)

Gerard.

> On Tue, 9 May 2000 slumos@nevada.edu wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hi.
> > 
> > In search for information on Ultra160 support in FreeBSD, I saw a
> > couple references in the mail-list archives saying it was or would
> > be supported in 4.0, but it isn't listed in the 4.0 release notes.
> > Can anyone tell me when it is expected to be in a -RELEASE version?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance.
> > 
> > Steve




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Merge From Current. All development work is done in the -current branch of
the source tree. Changes that are important enough are merged back to the
-stable branch.

On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 05:22:19PM -0500, Conrad Sabatier wrote:
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> 
> Thanks!
> 
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On Tue, 9 May 2000, Conrad Sabatier wrote:

> 
> I must have missed something.  :-)  I'm suddenly seeing this term used a
> lot in these lists, but don't recall how or when it got started.  I have a
> fairly good idea what it *means*, but not exactly what it *stands for*.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -- 
> Conrad Sabatier
> http://members.home.net/conrads/
> ICQ# 1147270
> 

You will find your answer at:
http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/misc.html#AEN3974

FAQ's are cool!

-Joe



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On 09-May-00 Scott wrote:
> 
> Microsoft Foundation Class
> 
> Basically means all Microsoft's add ons and such.

I don't think that's what it means as it's being used in the FreeBSD lists.
It appears to mean "commit", as in "committing a change to the source
tree", but I can't for the life of me figure what the first two letters
stand for.  :-)

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To: Ryan Moser 
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On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 10:52:09AM -0700, Ryan Moser wrote:
> i have the exact same card. it took me a month or so to figure out the
> lines to put in my kernel. the tricky part is you have to have the isa
> support even thought it is a pci sound card???
> 

Huh? 

> here are the lines that i put into my kernel
> 
> device          pcm0 at isa? irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x0
> device          pca0 at isa? port IO_TIMER1
> 

I have a SB PCI128 and the only line in my config file is

device pcm

and the card is found as

pcm0:  port 0x6800-0x683f irq 11 at device 11.0 on pci0

The only other thing I had to do was ``cd /dev ; ./MAKEDEV snd0'' and
check the vol and pcm levels in the mixer.

> this makes xmms play mp3's but i'm still unable to cat sounds to
> /dev/audio everything else sounds great though 
> 
> because it took me so long to do i hope this works
> 
> 
> On Sun, 7 May 2000, Aleksandar Simic wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I've just installed Sound Blaster 128 pci sound card under FreeBSD
> > 4.0.
> > 
> > dmesg output :
> > 
> > pcm0:  port 0x1000-0x103f irq 10 at device 14.0 on
> > pci0
> > 
> > Then I did:
> > 
> > # cd /dev
> > # ./MAKEDEV snd0
> > 
> > (I've also tried making snd1 before making snd0 but then mixer
> > wouldn't work at all, I then deleted mixer1 and made snd0)
> > 
> > Then when I run mixer I get the appropriate values:
> > 
> > Mixer vol      is currently set to  80:80
> > Mixer pcm      is currently set to  81:81
> > Mixer speaker  is currently set to  80:80
> > Mixer line     is currently set to  78:78
> > Mixer mic      is currently set to  84:84
> > Mixer cd       is currently set to  78:78
> > Mixer rec      is currently set to  73:73
> > Mixer line1    is currently set to  78:78
> > Mixer video    is currently set to  78:78
> > 
> > (I set them via "mixer vol  cd  ... from /etc/rc.local )
> > 
> > But when I try to play CD's using wmcdplay -d /dev/acd0c or mp3's with
> > xmms, no sound comes out of speakers. But if I connect my earphones
> > directly to the CD drive I can hear the CD's normally.
> > 
> > I have checked my cable connections and they are all in order. 
> > 
> > When I did the above mentioned steps under 3.4 sound worked but now it
> > doesn't. If you can help me I would be very grateful.
> > 
> > -Alex
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 12:05:47AM +0400, undef wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I've search for docs and web resources but didnt find anything 'bout this
> problem..
> After I installed FreeBSD4.0-RELEASE network daemons like proftpd and sshd2
> work not correct.. they started ok, but when i connect to them there is a pause
> for about 60 seconds when nothing is printed to my client, and only then login
> prompt is appeared.

Delays like this usually point to a DNS misconfiguration. Most
likely, the reverse-IP lookup for your IP address has not been set up
at the DNS server you're querying.

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On Tue, 09 May 2000 at 16:54:29 -0500, Brennan W Stehling wrote:
> Soon I will have the option to have my company purchase me a computer
> for the office.  I have a FreeBSD box and an iMac at home which allows
> me to do all of the work that I do here.  My only limitation is that I
> am not mobile.
> 
> I would like to have a laptop, but being connected to the internet
> and the development server while at, say, the beach, is not realistic
> right now. Instead I would like to have a laptop with a Unix/Linux
> system on it which can run apache/perl so that I can do my development
> work no matter if I am connected to the internet or not.
> 
> Anyone know of how FreeBSD or any other BSD runs on a laptop?  How
> does X like a laptop?  Any major or minor concerns?

It runs fine.  I have had two Sony VAIO laptops running it, and there
are a bunch of other folks with laptops.. most are VAIOs, but there's a
Toshiba Satellite, and a Dell.  I think all of the of the VAIOs,
actually :-)

Depending on what the laptop has in it, it could be a bit of a PITA to
install -- what I usually keep a Windows parition around on it so I can
use the Winmodem if I'm on the road and forget to take a pccard modem
:-)  Doing the install that way makes it really simple.  If you get a
model with a built in fxp0, doing a network install probably would be a
no-brainer as well.

- jim

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On Tue, 09 May 2000 at 17:22:19 -0500, Conrad Sabatier wrote:
> I must have missed something.  :-)  I'm suddenly seeing this term
> used a lot in these lists, but don't recall how or when it got
> started.  I have a fairly good idea what it *means*, but not exactly
> what it *stands for*.

Merge From -CURRENT.

- jim

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On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 01:17:12PM -0400, Otter wrote:
> s0lanine wrote:
> > 
> > Are they supported?
> > 
> > Are TV cards supported in freebsd 4.0?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> 
> s0lanine, i've heard that there are a few that work. As for specifics,
> I know the WinTV cards work. They're made by Hauppage. If you find
> something other than that, look for a BT848 or BT878 chipset (made by
> Hauppage). Those are known to work well under FreeBSD.

http://vulture.dmem.strath.ac.uk/bt848/ has info on TV cards using
these chipsets under FreeBSD.


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On Tue, 9 May 2000 09:18:43 -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote:

>> You've unchecked most of the SCSI devices? These probes alone may, by
>> default, take close to an hour.
>
>An hour?  More like 15-20 seconds for scsi and 15-30 seconds
>for the old IDE probes.
>
>Where exactly does it take an hour?

I can't check exactly, it takes too long. But basically, each SCSI
device driver does a few tests (I think 4), at lots of addresses (I
think around 40). That is 160 tests. Each test takes 15 seconds to
time-out. Which gives... 40 minutes. But I haven't counted exactly. It
was too boring to watch...  ;-)

It could be that all of this goes faster if you do indeed HAVE a SCSI
board. This box doesn't.

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Mitch Collinsworth wrote:
> Note that /var only has 2% of inodes in use!  Hunting through my log
> files I don't find any clues suggesting what happened.

10 to 1 that you have some process rotating logfiles but not
releasing an open filehandle when it does.

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I remember a thread either on freebsd-questions or freebsd-current,
regarding the fxp which caused some problems recently (within the last 3-4
months).. I am unable to locate this thread in the mailing list archives,
so can somone please point in the right direction or even tell me the
outcome of the thread? Driver update, where and how?

The problem is low-speed or no-speed  with Intel Pro 100 NICs and
FreeBSD 3.[123] RELEASE.

Thank you.


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On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 18:23:18 -0400, Mitch Collinsworth wrote:
> >The Adaptec Ultra160 boards (based on the 7892 and 7899) are supported in
> >4.0, but they only run at 80MB/sec, i.e. Ultra2 speeds, not at 160MB/sec.
> >
> >If you want the Adaptec chips to run at 160MB/sec, you need the patches
> >Justin referred to in his mail to the -scsi list today.
> 
> I distinctly remember someone saying the same thing about 3.4-R a
> while back, and that 4.0-R would have the 160MB/s support.

I dunno who said what, but the reality is that 3.4 doesn't support the 7892
or the 7899, and 4.0 does support those chips, but only at 80MB/sec.

If you want 160MB/sec with released code, you'll need to go with 4.0 and
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>
>
>I remember a thread either on freebsd-questions or freebsd-current,
>regarding the fxp which caused some problems recently (within the last 3-4
>months).. I am unable to locate this thread in the mailing list archives,
>so can somone please point in the right direction or even tell me the
>outcome of the thread? Driver update, where and how?
>
>The problem is low-speed or no-speed  with Intel Pro 100 NICs and
>FreeBSD 3.[123] RELEASE.

   I don't have a pointer to the discussion, but the outcome was that there
were problems with the driver reading larger SEEPROMs that Intel started using
on newer cards, which caused the initialization to go wrong in the driver.
It is fixed in current, 4.x-stable, and 3.x-stable as of about April 2nd.

-DG

David Greenman
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Hi All;

I'm going nuts trying to get this camera to work with gPhoto 0.4.3 and
FreeBSD 4.0R.  I compiled gPhoto 0.4.3 from the ports - no probs. ;
fires up perfectly.  In gPhoto (logged in as root), I selected the
camera and port (/dev/cuaa0).  When gPhoto tries to communicate with the

camera I see the camera status light blink once and thats it.  Nothing
else and I have to kill gPhoto.

Camera, cables etc. work under w98 and I had it working about 6 months
ago under RH 6.0 and gPhoto 0.4.0.

Seems like a baud rate / permissions / handshaking kinda thang...but I'm

really out of ideas.

Any suggestions?

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Mike



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I was undecided if this should go to questions or to hackers...

I understand that FreeBSD is used a lot for embedded systems. I thought
this would mean that the kernel, libc and some simple userland utilities
should be portable for any of the "embedded targets" supported by gcc.
On gcc, embedded systems seem to be OS independent: i386-elf instead of
i386-freebsd-elf etc...

I tried to build some userland stuff (ls, csh, strip, make) on Unixware
and found that we use many unstandard headers (fts.h, err.h) on these
utilities, FWIW I ended up using netbsd's make that was more portable.
Would it be desirable to make these utilities more portable?

Is there any relation between the system being portable and it's use in
embedded systems?

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> 
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> On Tue, 9 May 2000, Matthew Jacob wrote:
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> > There is U160 support in that the Qlogic 12160 cards are supported as of
> > FreeBSD 4.0.
> 
> U160 support for the Symbios C1010 controller is also available in 4.0, as
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Yeah, sorry, but because I couldn't verify it with *my* LSI Logic h/w (you
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On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 07:54:21PM +0700, Trisnadi Sutrisno wrote:
> I've installed FreeBSD 4.0 on my Dell system, it takes very LONG probing
> on startup. Is there any way to shorten that probing?
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I use 3.4-S, and when using the generic kernel the boot would hang for a bit
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On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 11:21:05AM -0400, Marcelo J. Iturbe wrote:
> What should I try? how does one install frmo FTP successfuly?
---end quoted text---

If you've already installed 3.3-R, why not just run cvsup and make world?
Seems a lot easier to me.
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On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 11:30:11PM +0800, Arman dJ wrote:

> But my question really is, can I use Boot Magic of PowerQuest for the
> multi boot system?
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Yes.
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Hey everybody, I tried to find the answer to my dilemma elsewhere, in particular
the archives of this list, but to no avail.  I would greatly appreciate any
suggestions any of you might have regarding my problem.  I'm attempting to do an
ftp install of 3.4-RELEASE on my AST Ascentia J10 using a 3Com 3C589D.  The
problem is, after using the kern.flp and mfsroot.flp floppies, and enabling the
driver for the card, the card is not being recognized.  I made the two floppies
from http://www.jp.freebsd.org/PAO/  seeing as though the 589D card was on the
support list.  I know the card works because I tested it in a windows machine
that I have and everything went fine.  I know the slot is working seeing as
though I had a 3Com 3C562D/3C563D in it when I was still booting windows.  So
after booting with the kern.flp and mfsroot.flp, I kept the ep0 driver enabled
in the Active Driver menu, and after it's done probing for the various devices,
I hit Alt-F2 and see this:

DEBUG:  ioctl(3, TIOCCONS, NULL) = 0 (success)
DEBUG:  Term = cons25
DEBUG:  Can't open PC-card controller /dev/card0.
DEBUG:  Fount a network device named lp0
DEBUG:  Found a floppy devide for /dev/fd0
DEBUG:  Add mapping for /dev/cuaa0 to sl0
DEBUG:  Add mapping for /dev/cuaa0 to ppp0
DEBUG:  Add mapping for dev/cuaa1 to sl0
DEBUG:  Add mapping for /dev/cuaa1 to ppp0
DEBUG:  Found a disk device named wd0

And from here, when I go through the install process, specify an ftp site, the
choices I get to connect with do not include the ethernet card.  Am I missing
something obvious?  Being new at this, I'm sure I am.  Can anyone point me in
the right direction?


Thanks, Mike





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Hello,

After upgrading XF86 from 3.X to 4.0, my realplayer displays only black screen;
sound works fine though.  Any idea what is wrong?  I'm on FreeBSD4.0 stable.

Thank you.

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Does any one now the correct audio drive for a SE440BX-2 intel
motherboard with YMF740 and AD1819A on board.
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On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 11:21:05AM -0400, Marcelo J. Iturbe wrote:
> Hello,
> When I bought FreeBSD, I thought I was buying a stable version but they 
> sent me 3.3-Release (back in December).

A release is actually a 'snapshot' from the stable branch of FreeBSD
and is certainly 'stable'.

> I have been having lots of problems with SCSI controlers, Memory 
> recognition etc..
> So I wa thinking of downloading a stable kernel and compiling that.

In FreeBSD you are not supposed to install another kernel without 
installing 'world' as well; kernel+world should be in sync or otherwise
you can expect problems.

> So I went into /stand/sysinstall  and choose FTP as instalation Media.
> When into options and chose 3.0-stable as the distribution name because 
> that is what I found under:
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/branches/3.0-stable/
> 
3.0-stable is much older then 3.3-release... 

> But, it told me that it could not find the release and to try "none" and so 
> I did and I still can't install from FTP.
> What should I try? how does one install frmo FTP successfuly?
>

Try to find out first *why* you have problems with 3.3-release. For example:

- Be sure your hardware is supported (what SCSI controller do you have?).
- What kind of problems do you encounter? Is there an error message that
gives a clue?

If you don't really know what the problem is, you have a good chance that
you will have the same problem with a later version of FreeBSD...

Karel.
 


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Mike Meyer writes:
> I've just moved to a local with no broadband network support, and find
> myself needing a modem. For now, I've hijacked one of the motherboard
> serial ports and borrowed a modem, but this is temporary. I'd like a
> solution that avoids putting more ISA devices in the system, but it's
> not clear what will - or won't - work with 4.0-RELEASE.
> 
> The options seem to be (in order of preference):

None of your preferences included another plain old external modem like
you are apparently using right now. You hijacked a serial port? What's
it being used for otherwise? Ever think of adding another serial port?

Having had modems since 1200 baud full duplex was exotic the most 
important thing I've learned is that a modem is a throw-away disposable 
sacrificial component. It has no business inside the computer where it 
can do damage to other components when (not if, but when) it blows up.

If your serial ports are being used and you have a slot, then add more 
serial ports:

sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
sio1: type 16550A
sio2 at port 0x1a8-0x1af irq 10 flags 0x205 on isa0
sio2: type 16550A (multiport master)
sio3 at port 0x1e8-0x1ef flags 0x205 on isa0
sio3: type 16550A (multiport)
sio4 at port 0x2a8-0x2af flags 0x205 on isa0
sio4: type 16550A (multiport)
sio5 at port 0x3e8-0x3ef flags 0x205 on isa0
sio5: type 16550A (multiport)

Notice the last 4 are on a card which is capable of correctly sharing 
one IRQ for all of its ports. The card is a long discontinued STB 
4-Com. Nothing fancy about it, contains one Startech ST16C554CJ which 
I've seen on a number of serial cards including some cheapies from 
Jameco.

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I have booted the WaveLAN PCI adapter together with the PCMCIA card in 3
different motherboards and have found that pccardd will not load and
reports that 'no pccard slots found' At least one motherboard tried had
documentation that clearly said that it was PC99 compliant, PCI 2.2
compliant and had no ISA slots.

The OS I've installed is RELEASE-4.0. The PCI adapter is the WaveLAN from
Lucent and the PCMCIA card is the 'Silver' Turbo 11 card from Lucent.

I noticed that GENERIC had PCCARD options on, ze0 and cp0 absent, and wi
enabled in 4.0 unlike 3.4 where I had to change these (comment/uncomment)  
These seemed to be the right settings. I made a small mod to GENERIC and
rebuilt and rebooted. My change was not related to PCCARD, i just removed
the lnc0 driver for my own purposes.

FYI When booting, I noticed the message

wi0 not found


This behavior was also found in RELEASE-3.4 where I started my efforts. I
moved to 4.0 thinking there would be better support including the support
for encryption but found the same behavior. Then I tried another
Motherboard and then a Motherboard which met the exact listed requirements
in the WaveLAN PCI adapter documentation. Results were the same each time.
I also used another card in case there was an engineering defect in the
first WaveLAN unit(s) sampled.

I enabled PCCARD with YES in /etc/rc.conf overrides to
/etc/defaults/rc.conf. I did not modify the pccard.conf other than using
the sample provided in /etc. I also tried 0xe0000 in the mem parameter
according to the device driver author's suggestions and comments but that
did not help.

During boot, the messages from FreeBSD do show that the bridge was found
and assigned it to IRQ 11. But there no messages or expected behaviors
from wicontrol utility or pccardd daemon that let me to believe the PCMCIA
hardware was recognized.

I suppose my next step at this point without further direction will be to
try configuring the PCMCIA product alone in a laptop. I would be trying to
rule out or narrow down my problem to an error in establishing pccard
support properly (which I have never done before in FreeBSD although it
seems very straight forward) or simply a problem related to the PCI-PCMCIA
adapter.

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I'm trying to mount a CD-R (data, not audio) with my IDE CDROM drive
under FreeBSD 3.2-release. No luck. When I type the mount command "mount
-t cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom" it immediately returns the message "cd9660:
Invalid argument". I am able to mount other (non-recordable) data CDs
without problems, and the files on this disk read fine in a couple of
Win95 machines.

This particular CD-R was written on a Win95 machine by someone else, for
backup purposes. I need to extract one of the archives from it.

Any suggestions?

Here is my CDROM info from dmesg:

wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 flags 0xb0ffb0ff on isa
wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, accel, dma, iordy
acd0: drive speed 687 - 8250KB/sec, 128KB cache
acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA, packet track
acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels
acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray
acd0: Medium: CD-ROM 120mm photo disc loaded, unlocked



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I installed a linux program on my machine which includes a library
libxxx.a.  I was wondering if libraries need to be "brandelf"-ed as well
as executables.  

But when I did "brandelf libxxx.a" it said that it was not an ELF
format. So I checked other libraries with the suffix .a.  They
also were not ELF.  But all the .so libraries said they were ELF.  

What format are the libraries with .a suffix?  Does anything need to be
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> 				When I type the mount command "mount
> -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom" it immediately returns the message "cd9660:
> Invalid argument".
> 
> acd0: Medium: CD-ROM 120mm photo disc loaded, unlocked
>			^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 

	Are photo disks also 9660 disks? Is there anything special
   about mounting a photo CD?

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I am trying to get FreeBSD 4.0 on a X86 class machine to dial into my
ISP.  Since it keeps things simple, I usually just use KPPP under Linux
and decided to do the same under FreeBSD.  I set KPPP up the same way as
I did in Linux and then proceeded to dial.  After it gets done
initializing the modem, the message 'setting modem volume' comes up in
the status box.  This is as far as the dialing process gets.

I checked the modem volume AT settings and they are correct for my
modem.  My modem is a Actiontech 56K ISA PNP card that has PNP disabled
and is manually jumpered for com 3 IRQ 4.

I then read the FreeBSD handbook section on ppp.  I realized that there
were no tunnel devices in the device directory.  I then recompiled my
kernel adding one tunnel device in following the directions in the ppp
section.  I rebooted, checked to see if the tun0 was in the /dev
directory, yes, however when I type ifconfig -a it still does not list
any tunnel devices like the handbook's screen shots.  I then tried KPPP
again, same problem, once again 'setting modem volume'.

Thanks.

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On Tuesday,  9 May 2000 at 11:50:23 -0700, Rick Moore wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I'm running a fresh load of FreeBSD 4.0.  I've got 10 SCSI disks
> running on an Adaptec 39160 which appear to work fine with file
> systems.
>
> I remove the file systems from fstab and reboot.  All the labels
> look like this:
>
> # /dev/rda0c:
> type: SCSI
> disk: da0s1
> label:
> flags:
> bytes/sector: 512
> sectors/track: 51
> tracks/cylinder: 166
> sectors/cylinder: 8466
> cylinders: 2118
> sectors/unit: 17938986
> rpm: 3600
> interleave: 1
> trackskew: 0
> cylinderskew: 0
> headswitch: 0           # milliseconds
> track-to-track seek: 0  # milliseconds
> drivedata: 0
>
> 8 partitions:
> #        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
>   c: 17938986        0    unused        0     0         # (Cyl.    0 - 2118*)
>   e: 17938986        0    4.2BSD     1024  8192    16   # (Cyl.    0 - 2118*)

You need a vinum partition somewhere.

> I start vinum with "kldload vinum"

You don't need to do that.  Starting vinum will load the kld
automatically.

> and issue the following command:
>
> vinum "create -f striping" where "striping" is the following:
>
> drive d0 device /dev/da0e

This won't work.  You need a partition of type 'vinum'.  From the man
page:

   DRIVE LAYOUT CONSIDERATIONS
     vinum drives are currently BSD disk partitions.  They must be of type
     vinum in order to avoid overwriting data used for other purposes.  Use
     disklabel -e to edit a partition type definition.  The following display
     shows a typical partition layout as shown by disklabel:

     8 partitions:
     #        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
       a:    81920   344064    4.2BSD        0     0     0   # (Cyl.  240*- 297*)
       b:   262144    81920      swap                        # (Cyl.   57*- 240*)
       c:  4226725        0    unused        0     0         # (Cyl.    0 - 2955*)
       e:    81920        0    4.2BSD        0     0     0   # (Cyl.    0 - 57*)
       f:  1900000   425984    4.2BSD        0     0     0   # (Cyl.  297*- 1626*)
       g:  1900741  2325984     vinum        0     0     0   # (Cyl. 1626*- 2955*)

     In this example, partition g may be used as a vinum partition.  Parti-
     tions a, e and f may be used as UFS file systems or ccd partitions.  Par-
     tition b is a swap partition, and partition c represents the whole disk
     and should not be used for any other purpose.

> This works OK every now and then.

That surprises me.

> Very often the server crashes!

If you have a crash, please supply the information I ask for in the
man page:

   Reporting problems with Vinum

     If you find any bugs in vinum, please report them to Greg Lehey
     .  Supply the following information:

     o   The output of the vinum list command.

     o   Any messages printed in /var/log/messages. All such messages will be
         identified by the text vinum at the beginning.

     o   If you have a panic, a stack trace as described above.

You can get more detail at http://www.lemis.com/vinum/how-to-debug.html.

> Of course, the resulting volume is too small to be useful.

The output of 'vinum list' would be interesting here.

> As a test I run "vinum resetconfig" followed by "vinum create -f
> striping" again.  This time the server crashes.  It's the exact same
> config file!

I'd like to see the dump.  It looks like your disk layout is hosed,
but it shouldn't cause a panic.

Greg
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>I currently running version 3.2 of FreeBSD. I am trying to set up a
firewall
>that will allow users on the system to 'telnet" and 'ftp" out of the
system, but
>will not let any other type of connection to the system. I have been able
to get
>every thing to work correctly except the "ftp". I have been able to make
the
>connection out to the remote hosts but have not been able to set up a rule
that
>will allow the remote host to setup a connection to send the data. I an
sure
>this has been done before, could someone show me the correct rule that will
>accomplish this?

Here's what I have in my /etc/rc.firewall script for FTP:

    # FTP - Allow outbound, deny inbound
    ${fwcmd} add pass tcp from any 20 to any setup
    ${fwcmd} add deny log tcp from any to ${onet}:${omask} 21 in via ${oif}
setup
    ${fwcmd} add pass tcp from any to ${inet}:${imask} 21 setup

    # Uncomment these and comment-out 'deny' rule above to open up inbound
FTP too
    #${fwcmd} add pass log tcp from any to any 20 setup
    #${fwcmd} add pass log tcp from any 21 to any setup
    #${fwcmd} add pass log tcp from any to any 21 setup


Good luck!

--Dan

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I cannot seem to find a contact to ask on the webpage about this, it's a
neat GUI package that was written for freebsd/ipfw, was posted on the
security list. I can't seem to get it to compile, I think this is probably
a FreeBSD 4.0/3.4 issue, the machine I'm trying to compile on is FreeBSD
4.0, here's what I get:

matt[epsilon]:~/fwmd> make
gcc Des.cpp Md5.cpp FWMCrypt.cpp FWMDatabase.cpp FWMTime.cpp FWMRules.cpp
FWMDaemon.cpp -o fwmd
FWMDaemon.cpp: In function `int LogProcess(int)':
FWMDaemon.cpp:1380: passing `int *' as argument 6 of `recvfrom(int, void
*, unsigned int, int, sockaddr *, socklen_t *)' changes signedness
FWMDaemon.cpp: In function `BOOL CollectIPFWStats()':
FWMDaemon.cpp:1832: passing `int *' as argument 5 of `getsockopt(int, int,
int, void *, socklen_t *)' changes signedness
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/home/matt/fwmd.

It builds quite fine on FreeBSD 3.4, but there's no X (or monitor) plugged
into that machine as it's a dedicated server. I'd appreciate any help, I
know this isn't exactly on topic I think for this list, but I did not know
where else to turn. I understand there were some socket changes from 3.4
to 4.0 though which is probably the root of this. The URL for this app is
http://www.cs.technion.ac.il/Courses/Computer-Networks-Lab/projects/ \
spring98/fwmanager/

(line broken so it would fit)

Regards,

Matt Heckaman
matt@arpa.mail.net
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>I have a question about the gateway option in freebsd 4.0.
>The installation of freebsd was no problem then i found out
>how to connect with my modem to my isp so far no
>problems. but when I tryed to share my connection with a
>win98 box it wouldn't work i have red the instructions how
>to make a internet gateway but when i start a ppp sesion
>to my isp with the option -nat i can not connect with my win98
>box to the internet.I have set the gateway in my tcp/ip tap of
>my networkcard from my win98 box to th ip of my inet server.
>now is the question do i have set more thinks before i can
>connect with my win98 box to the internet. i also put the ip
>and name of my win98 box in the /etc/hosts file.

1.    Add the name & address of your machines to C:\WINDOWS\HOSTS on your
Windows box. It's a normal text file, with no filename extension.

2.    Tell Windows the addresses of your ISP's DNS servers:

        In the Network Properties dialog, double-click the TCP/IP component
to open the TCP/IP Properties dialog, and go to the DNS Configuration tab.

        Check 'Enable DNS', type in your computers host name in the 'Host'
box (you'll get an error message if you leave this blank), then enter your
ISP's two DNS servers in the 'DNS Server Search Order' box.

'OK' your way out, reboot, and you should be in business...

--Dan

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Where may I find documentation for the md pseudo-device?

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>I am running 4.0-RELEASE on a very standard desktop machine. It is
>installed in a computer room and has no keyboard or mouse but does have
>a video card but this is not connected to a monitor. I have a terminal
>connected to sio0 and have a /boot.config file with the following single
>line entry:
>
>0:ad(0,a) kernel -P
>
>When I boot with this configuration the serial console works correctly
>but the command swapinfo returns:
>
>swapinfo: undefined symbol: _numvnodes
>
>and the command top returns:
>
>top: nlist failed
>
>If I remove the /boot.config file to disable the serial console the
>commands swapinfo and top operate as expected.


Try putting just '-P' in your /boot.config; it works just fine for me...

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Howdy all. 

Newbie here, that's right, I'm a newbie. Please hold your applause until the
end of the lame question. Thanks!

So, I'm running FreeBSD 4.0 - RELEASE. I'm trying to install Netscape 4.72 (the
unsupported FreeBSD version, not Linux version). Anyway, after one hell of a
struggle trying to get it install, I finally managed to get it to complete...
BUT!

When I try to start Netscape, I get the following message:
"ld.so failed: Can't find shared library 'libXt.so.6.0'"

As it turns out (and you all probably know this), it's in:
/usr/ports/x11/XFree86-aoutlibs/work/lib/

So, I made it a point to add it to my PATH variable just to humor myself,
reloaded my .profile, and checked to make sure the new entry was there. It is,
yet, I still have the same problem. 

I've installed a version of Mosaic but I cannot view graphics with it. They're
all jumbled up as if the color depth were too low or something (it's at 16bpp).
Sometimes "links" just doesn't cut it for me and I want more visual. Can anyone
offer some advice? I appreciate it! Thank you.

Ryan



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> anyone have any idea why the remote logging in syslogd on fbsd
> 3.4-RELEASE might not work?  i just setup a new nfsroot box, and i want
> to do remote logging to another host, athena.  in the /etc/syslog.conf i
> have:
> *.*     @athena
> i have another fbsd 3.4-STABLE box, and it does remote logging to athena
> with no problem.  when i tcpdump, i can see that the nfsroot box isn't
> sending any syslog packets at all.  it does log to /var/log/messages
> though.  thanks if you can help me :)
> 
> -jacob kuenzel


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On Tue,  9 May 2000 at 17:39:57 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote:
> 
> On Monday,  8 May 2000 at 23:27:06 -0400, Dany Cayouette wrote:
> > Greg Lehey wrote:
> >> On Monday,  8 May 2000 at  1:33:56 +0000, Harry Woodward-Clarke wrote:
> >>> Hi ya,
> >>>
> >>> I've just been informed that as of next month I will be getting a
> >>> laptop: "Dell Latitude CPx, 450MHx PIII, 128Mb RAM, 6.4GB HDD, 13.3
> >>> screen, FDD, CD-ROM, 10/100 Dell/3Com PC-card NIC, V90 PC-Card modem."
> >>>
> >>> So, has anyone had success on installing FreeBSD 3.3 on such a
> >>> beast?
> >>
> >> I've done it on a CPi with no problems.  But I'd recommend a newer
> >> release of FreeBSD now.
> >>
> >>> Any hints, tips, tricks, gotcha's I need to be aware of?
> >>
> >> Not really.  On the CPi you need the following in your kernel config
> >> to get sound to work:
> >>
> >>   device pcm0 at isa? port ? irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x0
> >>
> >> The video card on the CPi is a NeoMagic, which is now supported by
> >> XFree86.  IIRC there was nothing special needed to install it.
> >
> > I also have a few questions on a Dell Latitude CPiA.  
> 
> Hmm.  I wonder what the difference is between a CPi and a CPiA.

More than you'd think looking at them, but they are both NeoMagic.

> > I run dedicated FreeBSD systems on a couple of old desktop at home
> > (486 & PII) but never tried a laptop, yet. (and never tried
> > dual-boot) I have a Dell CPiA running Win95 and I was hoping to make
> > it a dual boot system with FreeBSD.  How does/can FreeBSD support a
> > 'docked' and 'undocked' setting?
> 
> I've never used a dock, but Bill Fumerola has.  It works fine as long
> as you don't try to dock or undock while the system is running; that
> caused panics last time I saw it (last October).

You can't dock and undock with Microsoft without clobbering the OS,
either.

> > How do you tell the NeoMagic to switch from the 'dock' scrren
> > connector to the TFT Display?
> 
> The same way as you do under Microsoft.  Fn and F7 (I think).  It's
> marked on the function key, anyway.

Yup.  That's independent of OS.

> > The laptop has a 6 Gig Hard Drive.  a 2Gig partition (C: drive) where most
> > of the applications are and the rest of the disk is one 4Gig partition that
> > is split into 2 'logical DOS' partition D: and E:.  I have most of my data
> > on the D: drive.  I am not sure if I can do this but maybe someone can help
> > me here...  Somebody said I might be able to do this with a program called
> > Partition Magic.  I would like to 'free' my E: partition and install a 2Gig
> > FreeBSD partition.  I am not sure if this can be done because it is a DOS
> > logical partition. 
> 
> Partition magic will do it, I believe.

That's my understanding, also.


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 8:34 PM
Subject: yeah, i hate netscape...


> Howdy all.
>
> Newbie here, that's right, I'm a newbie. Please hold your applause until
the
> end of the lame question. Thanks!
>
> So, I'm running FreeBSD 4.0 - RELEASE. I'm trying to install Netscape 4.72
(the
> unsupported FreeBSD version, not Linux version). Anyway, after one hell of
a
> struggle trying to get it install, I finally managed to get it to
complete...
> BUT!
>
> When I try to start Netscape, I get the following message:
> "ld.so failed: Can't find shared library 'libXt.so.6.0'"
>
> As it turns out (and you all probably know this), it's in:
> /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-aoutlibs/work/lib/
>
> So, I made it a point to add it to my PATH variable just to humor myself,
> reloaded my .profile, and checked to make sure the new entry was there. It
is,
> yet, I still have the same problem.
>
> I've installed a version of Mosaic but I cannot view graphics with it.
They're
> all jumbled up as if the color depth were too low or something (it's at
16bpp).
> Sometimes "links" just doesn't cut it for me and I want more visual. Can
anyone
> offer some advice? I appreciate it! Thank you.
>

Maybe you could install Microsoft's Internet Explorer.  I here it's a pretty
good browser, for being free.

>;-)
Josh

> Ryan
> 
>
>
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> > Have you had a look at the apm man pages ?

> Yes, that and apmd.  I put in the kern.timecournter.method=3D1 command=
.
It
> did not change the sitution.  When I run apmd, ps ax | grep apmd
outputs
> 'grep apmd'.  So apmd is not running and will not run for some reason
> even though I have it built into the kernel....


Dear Nate Puri,

Have you tried enabling apm in /etc/rc.conf ?

Anyway, you might want to have a look at rc.conf(5).

I do utilize "apm" ... well, actually, in order to use "shutdown -p"
in some scripts of mine for my homebox; however, that box is NOT a
laptop.

I hope this helps all the same,
Salvo





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On Tuesday,  9 May 2000 at 13:02:56 +0000, Bart Lateur wrote:
> On Tue, 9 May 2000 17:39:57 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote:
>
>> The 1024 cylinder restriction went away a long time ago.
>
> I'm not sure of it. Even if you check brand new computers, you're still
> likely to find that the BIOS is a few years old.

If you can give me a specific example, I'd be interested to hear it.

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At 06:34 PM 5/10/00 -0700, Ryan wrote:

>When I try to start Netscape, I get the following message:
>"ld.so failed: Can't find shared library 'libXt.so.6.0'"
>
>As it turns out (and you all probably know this), it's in:
>/usr/ports/x11/XFree86-aoutlibs/work/lib/

You need to go to /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-aoutlibs and do 'make install'.
Then you need to do 'ldconfig -m'.



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> Howdy all. 

Hi, Ryan.

> When I try to start Netscape, I get the following message:
> "ld.so failed: Can't find shared library 'libXt.so.6.0'"
> 
> As it turns out (and you all probably know this), it's in:
> /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-aoutlibs/work/lib/

In a port, the work directory is just a staging area where stuff is
compiled (usually--the Netscape and XFree86-aoutlibs ports are both
exceptions, since they are pre-compiled).  Once you've compiled and
installed the port, it's best to remove the work directory, to save disk
space.  Typically, ported programs are installed under /usr/local/ or
/usr/X11R6/.  They're not meant to be run from the work directories.

> So, I made it a point to add it to my PATH variable just to humor myself,
> reloaded my .profile, and checked to make sure the new entry was there. It is,
> yet, I still have the same problem. 

The PATH environment variable is where your shell looks for programs when
you tell it to run a command but don't give the full path.  For example,
if you type "more" and your PATH is set to "/bin/:/usr/bin/", the shell
will look in /bin/ and not find the more program, then look in /usr/bin/
where it will find and run it.  If you type "./more" then the shell will
try to run the more program in the current directory.

Anyway, searches for libraries don't use your PATH.  They use information
from some files which are listed in the ldconfig(8) man page, and can use
the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable which works analogously to PATH
(and is also described in ldconfig(8)).

You shouldn't have to worry about this, because the XFree86-aoutlibs port
should run ldconfig with the proper options, when you install it.  You
didn't say whether you'd installed it (you could check in /var/db/packages
to tell) and I've seen a report (ports/18000 in GNATS) of problems with an
old version of it.  Therefore I'd advise you to start from scratch:  
first download the most recent version of the port from
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/branches/-current/ports/x11/XFree86-aoutlibs.tar.gz
(to /tmp/, let's say).  Then do:

	# cd /usr/ports/x1/XFree86-aoutlibs
	# make deinstall
	# cd ..
	# rm -rf XFree86-aoutlibs
	# tar xzvf /tmp/XFree86-aoutlibs.tar.gz
	# cd XFree86-aoutlibs
	# make install
	# rm -rf work

to clear away the old port and install the new one.  If you run "script"
before doing this, you'll be able to capture a log of everything you did,
and the responses of the computer.  Such information can be valuable
should you run into trouble and want to ask someone for help.  Reviewing
what happened can be useful when you're trying to help yourself, as well.

> I've installed a version of Mosaic but I cannot view graphics with it. They're
> all jumbled up as if the color depth were too low or something (it's at 16bpp).

I wouldn't recommend Mosaic, because development on it stopped about three
years ago, so it doesn't support tables, frames, or style sheets.

> Sometimes "links" just doesn't cut it for me and I want more visual. Can anyone
> offer some advice? I appreciate it! Thank you.

	# cd /usr/ports/www
	# make readmes

That will generate hyperlinked documentation from
/usr/ports/www/*/pkg/COMMENT and
/usr/ports/www/*/pkg/DESCR which you can browse through:

	% links /usr/ports/www/README.html

Of course, you could look at the COMMENT and DESCR files themselves to get
the same information.

The person who sent in ports/1800 said that the BSDI versions of Netscape
don't require the a.out libraries.  If you continue to have trouble with
the XFree86-aoutlibs port, you could try Netscape for BSDI.  There aren't
ports yet (I might make some) but you can download the programs from
ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/english/4.73/unix/unsupported/bsdi21/
and install them according to the instructions that come with them.  
There's also a port of Mozilla and, as you know, several Linux Netscape
ports.  The latter will allow you to use plugins that were compiled for
Linux--the Flash plugin for example.

> 

:-)
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Peter Losher wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
>         Has anyone been able to view TIFF-F files? (Most of these online
> FAX services send your FAX's to you either in their own format (Which you
> need Windows to run their viewer), or in TIFF-F (TIFF-Fax).  I can load
> the image in a image viewer, but that is only one page (and doesn't work
> with multiple page faxes).  I have tried ghostview, but it bombs loading
> the images...
> 
> Is there some converter I can run, or a UNIX viewer I can use to view
> these faxes with?
> 
> Thanks - Peter
> 
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Try xnview at http://www.xnview.fr.st supports over 150 graphic formats.
Installs very easily to FreeBSD

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On Tuesday,  9 May 2000 at 15:28:24 -0700, keith@mail.telestream.com wrote:
> I've just installed an internal Quantum DLT 4000 tape system into a
> machine and assumed things would be as they were with the old tape device
> as far as the device name and all. Here is how things are going so far,
> with little success I might add. I've no experience with DLT so any advice
> there would be appreciated too.
>
> # mt -f /dev/nrsa0 status
> mt: /dev/nrsa0: Input/output error
> #
>
> Any idea's as to what may be the problem.

No, you didn't give us any useful information.  What does dmesg say?

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Hello,

There's a write up on hardening FreeBSD at www.syslog.org.  Hope it helps.

Jerry

On Tue, 9 May 2000, Andy Coates wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I will be shortly putting my FreeBSD3.4-STABLE machine on the net, and will
> be giving various people user accounts.
> 
> Can anyone give me a list of, or a website with, the most common ways
> "hackers" gain root, and most importantly ways on stopping them. The main
> services I will be running are Apache, MySQL, FTP, Qmail - all of which are
> recent versions, and hopefully none of those have exploits.
> 
> I'm hopefully not stupid, and I'd like to think I have everything covered -
> but if someone did gain root, is there a way that I can tell this from the
> logs? Or would they just delete those entries anyway? Maybe some other
> logging program?
> 
> My main worry is that they could wipe everything - and not having any backup
> tapes or anything REALLY would upset me.
> I also keep a close eye on Bugtraq - is this the best way to keep informed
> and watch out for any new exploits that I can quickly take care of?
> 
> TIA,
> Andy.
> 
> 
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On Tuesday,  9 May 2000 at 17:46:49 -0700, R Joseph Wright wrote:
> I installed a linux program on my machine which includes a library
> libxxx.a.  I was wondering if libraries need to be "brandelf"-ed as well
> as executables.
>
> But when I did "brandelf libxxx.a" it said that it was not an ELF
> format. So I checked other libraries with the suffix .a.  They
> also were not ELF.  But all the .so libraries said they were ELF.
>
> What format are the libraries with .a suffix?  

ar(1) format.  It's basically an archive of object files.

> Does anything need to be done with them if they are linux binaries?

Not that I know of, except that you probably won't be able to link
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Sorry, always seem to foget. :)
 
FreBSD 4.0-stable
 
sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0
sa0:  Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device
sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15)
 
Keith

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On Wed, 10 May 2000, Greg Lehey wrote:

> On Tuesday,  9 May 2000 at 15:28:24 -0700, keith@mail.telestream.com wrote:
> > I've just installed an internal Quantum DLT 4000 tape system into a
> > machine and assumed things would be as they were with the old tape device
> > as far as the device name and all. Here is how things are going so far,
> > with little success I might add. I've no experience with DLT so any advice
> > there would be appreciated too.
> >
> > # mt -f /dev/nrsa0 status
> > mt: /dev/nrsa0: Input/output error
> > #
> >
> > Any idea's as to what may be the problem.
> 
> No, you didn't give us any useful information.  What does dmesg say?
> 
> Greg
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On Tuesday,  9 May 2000 at 21:26:23 -0700, keith@mail.telestream.com wrote:
> On Wed, 10 May 2000, Greg Lehey wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday,  9 May 2000 at 15:28:24 -0700, keith@mail.telestream.com wrote:
>>> I've just installed an internal Quantum DLT 4000 tape system into a
>>> machine and assumed things would be as they were with the old tape device
>>> as far as the device name and all. Here is how things are going so far,
>>> with little success I might add. I've no experience with DLT so any advice
>>> there would be appreciated too.
>>>
>>> # mt -f /dev/nrsa0 status
>>> mt: /dev/nrsa0: Input/output error
>>> #
>>>
>>> Any idea's as to what may be the problem.
>>
>> No, you didn't give us any useful information.  What does dmesg say?
>
> Sorry, always seem to foget. :)
>
> FreBSD 4.0-stable
>
> sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0
> sa0:  Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device
> sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15)

Looks OK.  Do you have a tape in the drive?  What indicators are on?
Do you get any console messages?

Greg
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Hi,

my freebsd box makes every time I try to connect (telnet) to a host in my
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I read in the fbsd - mailing lists someting about IPv6 which could produce
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Is there a possibility to switch off the IPv6 support?

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Everything is set according to the pdf file on Quantums site. TermPwr etc.
Have a clean new tape in and there is no problem with the status LED's on
the front. The compression light is on and the tape in use light as well,
as is normal. We have an NT server in NJ of the same type so dispite
having no documentaion at hand I'm confident the LED's are correct.
I initialy thought it could have been that I didn't have the device in
/dev or that I was calling it by the wrong dev but dmesg pretty much rules
that out. I think I may toss it into a Winblows machine and see if it
get's any kind of error.

Keith

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On Wed, 10 May 2000, Greg Lehey wrote:

> On Tuesday,  9 May 2000 at 21:26:23 -0700, keith@mail.telestream.com wrote:
> > On Wed, 10 May 2000, Greg Lehey wrote:
> >
> >> On Tuesday,  9 May 2000 at 15:28:24 -0700, keith@mail.telestream.com wrote:
> >>> I've just installed an internal Quantum DLT 4000 tape system into a
> >>> machine and assumed things would be as they were with the old tape device
> >>> as far as the device name and all. Here is how things are going so far,
> >>> with little success I might add. I've no experience with DLT so any advice
> >>> there would be appreciated too.
> >>>
> >>> # mt -f /dev/nrsa0 status
> >>> mt: /dev/nrsa0: Input/output error
> >>> #
> >>>
> >>> Any idea's as to what may be the problem.
> >>
> >> No, you didn't give us any useful information.  What does dmesg say?
> >
> > Sorry, always seem to foget. :)
> >
> > FreBSD 4.0-stable
> >
> > sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0
> > sa0:  Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device
> > sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15)
> 
> Looks OK.  Do you have a tape in the drive?  What indicators are on?
> Do you get any console messages?
> 
> Greg
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On Tuesday,  9 May 2000 at 21:42:54 -0700, keith@mail.telestream.com wrote:
> On Wed, 10 May 2000, Greg Lehey wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday,  9 May 2000 at 21:26:23 -0700, keith@mail.telestream.com wrote:
>>> On Wed, 10 May 2000, Greg Lehey wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday,  9 May 2000 at 15:28:24 -0700, keith@mail.telestream.com wrote:
>>>>> I've just installed an internal Quantum DLT 4000 tape system into a
>>>>> machine and assumed things would be as they were with the old tape device
>>>>> as far as the device name and all. Here is how things are going so far,
>>>>> with little success I might add. I've no experience with DLT so any advice
>>>>> there would be appreciated too.
>>>>>
>>>>> # mt -f /dev/nrsa0 status
>>>>> mt: /dev/nrsa0: Input/output error
>>>>> #
>>>>>
>>>>> Any idea's as to what may be the problem.
>>>>
>>>> No, you didn't give us any useful information.  What does dmesg say?
>>>
>>> Sorry, always seem to foget. :)
>>>
>>> FreBSD 4.0-stable
>>>
>>> sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0
>>> sa0:  Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device
>>> sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15)
>>
>> Looks OK.  Do you have a tape in the drive?  What indicators are on?
>> Do you get any console messages?
>
> Everything is set according to the pdf file on Quantums site. TermPwr etc.
> Have a clean new tape in and there is no problem with the status LED's on
> the front. The compression light is on and the tape in use light as well,
> as is normal. We have an NT server in NJ of the same type so dispite
> having no documentaion at hand I'm confident the LED's are correct.
> I initialy thought it could have been that I didn't have the device in
> /dev or that I was calling it by the wrong dev but dmesg pretty much rules
> that out. 

What about /var/log/messages?

Greg
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Nothing in messages at all. I think the drive is hosed. NT can't do
anything with it either. All appears just fine in NT until I actualy try
to do a backup. Says it can't rewind device after initial read of tape.
Everything installed just fine for the thing and the driver in NT
installed fine too. 

My just rewards for buying off of ebay I suppose. :-/

Keith


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On Wed, 10 May 2000, Greg Lehey wrote:

> On Tuesday,  9 May 2000 at 21:42:54 -0700, keith@mail.telestream.com wrote:
> > On Wed, 10 May 2000, Greg Lehey wrote:
> >
> >> On Tuesday,  9 May 2000 at 21:26:23 -0700, keith@mail.telestream.com wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 10 May 2000, Greg Lehey wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Tuesday,  9 May 2000 at 15:28:24 -0700, keith@mail.telestream.com wrote:
> >>>>> I've just installed an internal Quantum DLT 4000 tape system into a
> >>>>> machine and assumed things would be as they were with the old tape device
> >>>>> as far as the device name and all. Here is how things are going so far,
> >>>>> with little success I might add. I've no experience with DLT so any advice
> >>>>> there would be appreciated too.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> # mt -f /dev/nrsa0 status
> >>>>> mt: /dev/nrsa0: Input/output error
> >>>>> #
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any idea's as to what may be the problem.
> >>>>
> >>>> No, you didn't give us any useful information.  What does dmesg say?
> >>>
> >>> Sorry, always seem to foget. :)
> >>>
> >>> FreBSD 4.0-stable
> >>>
> >>> sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0
> >>> sa0:  Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device
> >>> sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15)
> >>
> >> Looks OK.  Do you have a tape in the drive?  What indicators are on?
> >> Do you get any console messages?
> >
> > Everything is set according to the pdf file on Quantums site. TermPwr etc.
> > Have a clean new tape in and there is no problem with the status LED's on
> > the front. The compression light is on and the tape in use light as well,
> > as is normal. We have an NT server in NJ of the same type so dispite
> > having no documentaion at hand I'm confident the LED's are correct.
> > I initialy thought it could have been that I didn't have the device in
> > /dev or that I was calling it by the wrong dev but dmesg pretty much rules
> > that out. 
> 
> What about /var/log/messages?
> 
> Greg
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I would love to get it to run, but it comes in RPM format doesnt it?

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> Does anyone know if IBM's Linux version of DB/2 Universal runs on
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Troy Settle wrote:
> 
> James,
> 
> I'm in the same boat.  I can navigate my FreeBSD boxes blind folded (as
> long as I can peek out the corner :).
> 
> I'm now responsible for a slew of solaris boxes.  I don't like the layout
> one little bit.  I find the Solaris /etc directory to be a complete
> nightmare.
> 
> I haven't had time to sit down and negotiate with Solaris to find a happy
> medium, but I'm confident that given time, I can re-structure the /etc
> directory to be more in line with my FreeBSD boxes. 

	Whatever you do, don't do that. :) The next time you try to apply a
patch set from Sun you'll get screwed royally. The Solaris/SysV stuff
isn't really that hard to learn if you're familiar with basic system
administration. They also have fairly good man pages, although they
don't build an index by default so I had to run catman before I could
use apropos.

	Others already gave you references to some pretty good resources, I
would add to that http://sunfreeware.com/ which will give you a head
start on the closest relative to our packages that Sun has. I like to
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On Tue, 9 May 2000, William Woods wrote:

> I would love to get it to run, but it comes in RPM format doesnt it?

There's always rpm2cpio...

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First of all, please wrap your lines.
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> I was wondering...  I have not seen the 3ware IDE RAID card in the list
> of supported hardware.  Does anyone know if there is an effort anywhere
> to get drivers working for it?  3ware DOES release the source to their
> Linux drivers.  Could someone give me some tips on how to port the
> drivers to FreeBSD?  If I do this, will it be excepted by the
> authorities of FreeBSD?

I should have something going by the end of tonight; probe and attach is 
working but I'm not getting I/O interrupts (my mistake, I'm fairly sure).

I'd hope by the end of the week that the Linux binary version of their 
control program will work too, although that's not so certain.  I may 
need to negotiate for the sources for that.

As for porting the driver - a "few tips" wouldn't help you.  The driver's 
GPLed and not really something that would port well, so even if you did 
port it you'd still not be greeted with much enthusiasm.

At any rate, keep your eyes on http://people.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID; 
I'll post the first version (for -current only) up there as soon as I 
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On Wed, 10 May 2000, Greg Lehey wrote:

> On Tuesday,  9 May 2000 at 17:46:49 -0700, R Joseph Wright wrote:
> > I installed a linux program on my machine which includes a library
> > libxxx.a.  I was wondering if libraries need to be "brandelf"-ed as well
> > as executables.
> >
> > But when I did "brandelf libxxx.a" it said that it was not an ELF
> > format. So I checked other libraries with the suffix .a.  They
> > also were not ELF.  But all the .so libraries said they were ELF.
> >
> > What format are the libraries with .a suffix?  
> 
> ar(1) format.  It's basically an archive of object files.
> 
> > Does anything need to be done with them if they are linux binaries?
> 
> Not that I know of, except that you probably won't be able to link
> them with FreeBSD, because they assume a different environment.  There
> are some exceptions, though, notably functions that don't make any
> calls to other functions.

Does this mean that a linux program needing shared libraries cannot
read a FreeBSD version and must have the linux version installed under
/compat/linux?




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"Pedro F. Giffuni" wrote:
> 
> I was undecided if this should go to questions or to hackers...
> 
> I understand that FreeBSD is used a lot for embedded systems. I thought
> this would mean that the kernel, libc and some simple userland utilities
> should be portable for any of the "embedded targets" supported by gcc.

	No, that is a different use of the same word. An embedded system is one
that is usually one that is "stand alone," used for a specific purpose
(sometimes more limited than a general system), or other similar uses.
Whistle's Interjet is an embedded system that uses freebsd. 

	Portability refers to code that can be used unchanged on many different
platforms. 100% portability is almost impossible for anything other than
very simple programs due to the divergence of various different
implementations of the same idea on different platforms. Utilities like
GNU autoconf attempt to resolve these issues by use of various #ifdef's
that handle different platforms, or even versions of the same platform.
It's not a perfect solution, but it works.

Hope this helps,

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On Tuesday,  9 May 2000 at 22:37:23 -0700, R Joseph Wright wrote:
> On Wed, 10 May 2000, Greg Lehey wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday,  9 May 2000 at 17:46:49 -0700, R Joseph Wright wrote:
>>> I installed a linux program on my machine which includes a library
>>> libxxx.a.  I was wondering if libraries need to be "brandelf"-ed as well
>>> as executables.
>>>
>>> But when I did "brandelf libxxx.a" it said that it was not an ELF
>>> format. So I checked other libraries with the suffix .a.  They
>>> also were not ELF.  But all the .so libraries said they were ELF.
>>>
>>> What format are the libraries with .a suffix?
>>
>> ar(1) format.  It's basically an archive of object files.
>>
>>> Does anything need to be done with them if they are linux binaries?
>>
>> Not that I know of, except that you probably won't be able to link
>> them with FreeBSD, because they assume a different environment.  There
>> are some exceptions, though, notably functions that don't make any
>> calls to other functions.
>
> Does this mean that a linux program needing shared libraries cannot
> read a FreeBSD version and must have the linux version installed
> under /compat/linux?

Yes.

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On Tue, 09 May 2000 22:34:14 +0000  jacob@void.mapopolis.com wrote:
 +------------------
 | anyone have any idea why the remote logging in syslogd on fbsd
 | 3.4-RELEASE might not work?  i just setup a new nfsroot box, and i want
 | to do remote logging to another host, athena.  in the /etc/syslog.conf i
 | have:
 | *.*     @athena
 | i have another fbsd 3.4-STABLE box, and it does remote logging to athena
 | with no problem.  when i tcpdump, i can see that the nfsroot box isn't
 | sending any syslog packets at all.  it does log to /var/log/messages
 | though.  thanks if you can help me :)
 | 
 | -jacob kuenzel
 +------------------

Try killing syslogd and then running it with the -d option.  That'll
help you find where it is failing.  I'd guess that there is a
problem with the syntax of syslog.conf.  Syslog requires the first
character after the *.* be a tab.  Go figure.

chris

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Hi,

I have just installed qmail

and in the testing process I have come accross the following error.

May 10 16:00:04 pchost qmail: 957938404.906272 status: local 0/10 remote 1/20
May 10 16:00:07 pchost qmail: 957938407.294690 delivery 5246: 
deferral: Connected_to_203.36.210.200_but_connection_died._(#4.4.2)/     

I have looked at the qmail archives.

And have not found any fixes to the problem 

If anyone has overcome the problem, any help would be very appreciated...

thanks

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Hi Nicolai,

On Tue, 9 May 2000, Nicolai Petri (ML)   wrote:

> Is there some software available that can listen via bpf interfaces
> and make reports and graphs showing utilization ?

tcpstat is very configurable and the output can be customized (for
gnuplot for example):
   http://www.frenchfries.net/paul/tcpstat/

In ports there's /usr/ports/net/ntop.  It is a "top" like display for
network interfaces.  There was another in /usr/ports/net (name I forget)
which displays nice graphs as well.  Have a look at
/usr/ports/net/README.html

AFAIK there isn't much in the FreeBSD base system (why should there,
that's what ports are for :), but if you must, you *could* try something
like 'netstat 10', for example.  With a bit of awking/greping, you can
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I've written a simple script to display usernames
with their $HOME as root (chrooted). The $HOME variable 
is extracted with awk and sed.

However as usernames are not all the same lenght
the columns (username     chroot/path ) don't run
straight down, that is the chroot/path column start
depends on how long the username is.

Is there some way I can manipulate the rows so that
the second column is displayed in an 'orderly' fashion
using sh?

Regards
------------
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> I've written a simple script to display usernames
> with their $HOME as root (chrooted). The $HOME variable 
> is extracted with awk and sed.
> 
> However as usernames are not all the same lenght
> the columns (username     chroot/path ) don't run
> straight down, that is the chroot/path column start
> depends on how long the username is.
> 
> Is there some way I can manipulate the rows so that
> the second column is displayed in an 'orderly' fashion
> using sh?

Try echoing a tab character (^I) in between.

Richard Grace

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man 1 printf

Gavin

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On Wed, 10 May 2000, Richard Grace wrote:

> > I've written a simple script to display usernames
> > with their $HOME as root (chrooted). The $HOME variable 
> > is extracted with awk and sed.
> > 
> > However as usernames are not all the same lenght
> > the columns (username     chroot/path ) don't run
> > straight down, that is the chroot/path column start
> > depends on how long the username is.
> > 
> > Is there some way I can manipulate the rows so that
> > the second column is displayed in an 'orderly' fashion
> > using sh?
> 
> Try echoing a tab character (^I) in between.
> 
> Richard Grace
> 
> ITworks Consulting Pty. Ltd.
> 
> 
> 
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David Kelly writes:
> Mike Meyer writes:
> > I've just moved to a local with no broadband network support, and find
> > myself needing a modem. For now, I've hijacked one of the motherboard
> > serial ports and borrowed a modem, but this is temporary. I'd like a
> > solution that avoids putting more ISA devices in the system, but it's
> > not clear what will - or won't - work with 4.0-RELEASE.
> > The options seem to be (in order of preference):
> None of your preferences included another plain old external modem like
> you are apparently using right now. You hijacked a serial port? What's
> it being used for otherwise? Ever think of adding another serial port?

Actually, the *last* two options were just that, in that I was asking
for recommendations for a PCI (prefered) or ISA I/O card. Can you
recommend a PCI I/O card? Preferably with both parallel and serial
ports?

> Having had modems since 1200 baud full duplex was exotic the most 
> important thing I've learned is that a modem is a throw-away disposable 
> sacrificial component. It has no business inside the computer where it 
> can do damage to other components when (not if, but when) it blows up.

Well, my first modem was a 300 baud acoustically coupled box; the
first one sold by someone other than AT&T, as it happened.  In all
that time, I've never seen a modem to die in in a violent manner -
either one I owned, or one my employers (one of whom - UCB - had a
modem bank of over 100 of the things).

In any case, up until recently, I would have agreed with you. At this
point, not having the modem use up a power outlet (and two external
expansion brackets for an I/O card, right?) is worth considering.  Not
behind performance, though. Which is why the choices are PCI modem;
USB modem(*); PCI serial card; ISA modem; ISA serial card. Though if
I'm going to add a serial card, I'd prefer both serial and parallel
ports.

> Notice the last 4 are on a card which is capable of correctly sharing 
> one IRQ for all of its ports. The card is a long discontinued STB 

Those last few words are the critical problem. Finding ISA cards -
either serial or modems - these days is a PITA. That I have to sort
out WinModems makes me curse the hardware manufacturers and the MS
monopoly. That most of what left won't work on FreeBSD isn't their
fault, though.

Because of that, if I can't find a PCI modem that works, I'm liable to
buy the USB modem and hack on the USB modem driver. That's a nice,
high-performance option that uses hardware I already have, and helps
FreeBSD keep up with modern hardware.

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Dear sir or Madam,

I'm sending this mail to you because I'd like to ask you several questions.I
wish you can answer the following question:

(I)Does FreeBSD support Modem Dial-up Networking?
(II)Does it support Internet Modem and What kind of Modem and Chipset does
it support?
and (III)How do I configure it?

Finally,I hope all FreeBSD team members and users are happy and well.

Sincerely,
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On Tue 2000-05-09 (21:59), mackler-fb@dewline.com wrote:
> Where may I find documentation for the md pseudo-device?

http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/disks.html

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It's nice to see BSD has the capabilty to break startup scripts into
per-task files these days (it's been around for a while now, I think).

However, /etc/rc.shutdown is still a monolithic script. One of the nice
things about a traditional sysV system is the use of S* and K* scripts
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It's pretty trivial to modify /etc/rc.shutdown to launch any shutdown
scripts in a given set of directories; I was wondering if there's a
chance to get this change into FreeBSD permanently..?

jan

PS. Rationale: I've got a number of things (database stuff) which I need
to be able to guarantee a clean shutdown of. I find per-task shutdown
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Hi there.

I'm trying to set up a small network at home with a server
and a few x-terminal.

The server is a dedicated Pentium FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE.
The x-terminal are 486 machines.

I successfully
- set up bootp/tftp/nfs daemons on the server.
- build the bootstrap floppy for the x-terminal
   (located in /usr/src/sys/i386/boot/netboot/)
- get answer from the bootp server
- load the file with configuration info about rootfs, swapfs,
   swapsize... on the x-terminal
- nfs mount the file systems on the x-terminal
- start to load /kernel

Here is where it fails... The message is something like:

Bad module format!
  or...
Bad head format!
  ...can't exacly remember ;^)

Is that because the kernel is ELF and the boot program
expects a.aot???

Any help/hints greatly appreciated.
Please send answers also to my mail-box.

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Hi there 
I use FreeBSD 2.2.8 and do not know all the commands? 
I need the Hand Book in Hard Copy (book) format . On cd would also be nice!
Where can i get it? or download it and then burn to cd?

Thanks
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On 10-May-00 Jacques Clausen wrote:
> Hi there 
> I use FreeBSD 2.2.8 and do not know all the commands? 
> I need the Hand Book in Hard Copy (book) format . On cd would also be
> nice!
> Where can i get it? or download it and then burn to cd?
> 
> Thanks
> Jacques Clausen
> 

try at www.freebsdmall.com. And 2.2.8 might be described as outdated
nowadays. I suggest you get "The Compleat FreeBSD" from freebsdmall, it
ships with 4.0 as I gather.

/M

OTOH. Both 2.2.8 and 3.4 are very stable releases so if you like your old
2.2.8 (I have one at home) then I don't see any reasoon for you to change.

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Hello!

/dev/ad0s3f    992439   914150    -1106   100%    /usr/home/ncvs

This is not nice. Since the 2.x and 3.x branches are useless for me,
is there a way to remove these parts out of the repository and keep
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Hi,I`m sorry to bather you,
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Hello,

When I try to "make depend" my custom kernal on Freebsd4.0 i get the
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Hello I get something simlar constantly too.

The ways I solved it was :-

1) make sure that your smtp settings are correct
2) Sometimes I get that what I did was delete that email int the outbox (on the
left hand side of your screen) and then close kmail
then sent it again.

Then it worked.

Sure Kmail isn't as brillant as Eudora but after 4 years of using Eurdora as
your default email client and supporting many different email clients like
Outlook Express, Microsoft Outlook, Internet Mail, Netscape mail Kmail is a
good chnage.


On Wed, 10 May 2000, chip wrote:
> I have come up against a problem with Kmail recently. Here is the
> error -
> 
> Sending failed
> a SMTP error occured.
> Command: RCPT
> Response: 550 unknown user 
> Return code: 550
> 
> This happens every time I try to send a message, to anyone. I don't
> understand the unknown user part, I am the only user on this machine,
> so why does it think freebsd.org is a user?
> Did something get corrupted?
> -- 
> Chip 
> www.wiegand.org
> *****
> Visit my web site -
> Alternative Operating Systems - MS Windows isn't the only OS in town.
> 
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> Hello!

Hi, Alexander.

> /dev/ad0s3f    992439   914150    -1106   100%    /usr/home/ncvs
> 
> This is not nice. Since the 2.x and 3.x branches are useless for me,
> is there a way to remove these parts out of the repository and keep
> cvsup from fetching these?

I don't know how to just remove those parts, but you could use the -m
option of tunefs to make 8% more space available, at the cost of speed
(see the tunefs man page).  If you have space on other devices, you could
make symlinks to those and move parts of the CVS tree onto them.  For even
more fun, you could repartition your hard drive. :-)
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Wed May 10  3:50:36 2000
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If your are having this kind of problem you should contact your ISP's help desk
department. They are always willing to help. 

This your ISP's problem. not a freebsd problem

Second, get rid of this Mickey Mouse OS called WIndows.

On Wed, 10 May 2000, christopherstepanian wrote:
> >%_Hope your group finds this worth your time.                                                                                                            I connect to my ISP(MSN) and click on mailbox then when that appears go to inbox and wait.Nothing happens.Even after over an hour nothing.Then go to send/receive and a another window comes up and show me tasks and trying to excuted but not preforming just trying but going no where.Another 30 minutes of no progress then I try stop(which cancells the tasks),then hide the window. Then click send/receive again and it works.Mail is received.                                                                                                                                                            I have cleaned my cookies(cache) thought that might be it.I uninstall then reinstall MSN and it wasn't that.Thought it might be in tools or my POP3 that didn't help.Try to sycronized folder didn't help either.                              !
                                                                                                                                         I contacted MSN ,hotmail,mygreek,Cnet,ZNET with no results. Even had repairman over said I'ts probably something simple and will come back when they know.Well after 2 weeks I would like to know.                                   Thanks if you can help,Chris                                      
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> Hello,

Hi, Rob.

> When I try to "make depend" my custom kernal on Freebsd4.0 i get the
> following error ...
> 
> ../../pci/if_xl.c:133: miibus_if.h: No such file or directory
> mkdep: compile failed

I saw this mentioned on -current and the person who was suffering from it
was advised to be sure a "device miibus" line was in the kernel
configuration file.  The necessity of this for certain drivers is
explained in recent versions of the LINT and GENERIC files.  Good luck.
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Thus spake Trevor Johnson (trevor@jpj.net):

> I don't know how to just remove those parts, but you could use the -m
> option of tunefs to make 8% more space available, at the cost of speed

That gives only 80 MB, which will be full in some weeks, too :-(

> make symlinks to those and move parts of the CVS tree onto them.  For even
> more fun, you could repartition your hard drive. :-)

That's what I wanted to avoid :-)

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> > Hello,
> 
> Hi, Rob.
> 
> > When I try to "make depend" my custom kernal on Freebsd4.0 i get the
> > following error ...
> > 
> > ../../pci/if_xl.c:133: miibus_if.h: No such file or directory
> > mkdep: compile failed
> 
> I saw this mentioned on -current and the person who was suffering from it
> was advised to be sure a "device miibus" line was in the kernel
> configuration file.  The necessity of this for certain drivers is
> explained in recent versions of the LINT and GENERIC files.  Good luck.
> 
	woo hoo that worked, thanx for your time !!

> --
> Trevor Johnson
> 
	regards,
	rob


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On Wed, 10 May 2000 09:43:28 +0100, Jan Grant wrote:

> However, /etc/rc.shutdown is still a monolithic script. One of the nice
> things about a traditional sysV system is the use of S* and K* scripts
> to handle shutdown tasks.
> 
> It's pretty trivial to modify /etc/rc.shutdown to launch any shutdown
> scripts in a given set of directories; I was wondering if there's a
> chance to get this change into FreeBSD permanently..?

You should have a look at http://people.freebsd.org/~eivind/newrc.html
before you conclude that this is a trivial issue.

Ciao,
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On Wed, 10 May 2000 11:42:32 +0100, Rob Carmichael wrote:

> When I try to "make depend" my custom kernal on Freebsd4.0 i get the
> following error ...
> 
> ../../pci/if_xl.c:133: miibus_if.h: No such file or directory
> mkdep: compile failed

You haven't been doing your reading. :-)

Have a look at the SYNOPSIS of the xl(4) manual page.

Ciao
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On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 11:46:17AM -0400, Mitch Collinsworth wrote:
> 
> Has anyone seen anything like this before or have any thoughts what the
> 
> -Mitch

Are you sure that it's complaining about inodes? Could it be mbufs?

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With all due respect and all, what made you think to ask a windoze
question on a FreeBSD mailing list?



> christopherstepanian wrote:
> 
> Hope your group finds this worth your time.
> 
>             I connect to my ISP(MSN) and click on mailbox then when
> that appears go to inbox and wait.Nothing happens.Even after over an
> hour nothing.Then go to send/receive and a another window comes up and
> show me tasks and trying to excuted but not preforming just trying but
> going no where.Another 30 minutes of no progress then I try stop(which
> cancells the tasks),then hide the window. Then click send/receive
> again and it works.Mail is received.
> 
>                                                         I have cleaned
> my cookies(cache) thought that might be it.I uninstall then reinstall
> MSN and it wasn't that.Thought it might be in tools or my POP3 that
> didn't help.Try to sycronized folder didn't help
> either.
>    I contacted MSN ,hotmail,mygreek,Cnet,ZNET with no results. Even
> had repairman over said I'ts probably something simple and will come
> back when they know.Well after 2 weeks I would like to know.
>                            Thanks if you can
> help,Chris

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Wed May 10  5:32:30 2000
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Take a look at:

http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/security.html

Cheers,
Marc


On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 11:46:59AM +0100, Andy Coates wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I will be shortly putting my FreeBSD3.4-STABLE machine on the net, and will
> be giving various people user accounts.
> 
> Can anyone give me a list of, or a website with, the most common ways
> "hackers" gain root, and most importantly ways on stopping them. The main
> services I will be running are Apache, MySQL, FTP, Qmail - all of which are
> recent versions, and hopefully none of those have exploits.
> 
> I'm hopefully not stupid, and I'd like to think I have everything covered -
> but if someone did gain root, is there a way that I can tell this from the
> logs? Or would they just delete those entries anyway? Maybe some other
> logging program?
> 
> My main worry is that they could wipe everything - and not having any backup
> tapes or anything REALLY would upset me.
> I also keep a close eye on Bugtraq - is this the best way to keep informed
> and watch out for any new exploits that I can quickly take care of?
> 
> TIA,
> Andy.


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This may seem obvious, but have you tried other tapes in the drive?


Oscar

At 09:57 PM 5/9/00 -0700, keith@mail.telestream.com, you wrote:
>Nothing in messages at all. I think the drive is hosed. NT can't do
>anything with it either. All appears just fine in NT until I actualy try
>to do a backup. Says it can't rewind device after initial read of tape.
>Everything installed just fine for the thing and the driver in NT
>installed fine too.
>
>My just rewards for buying off of ebay I suppose. :-/
>
>Keith




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Any thoughts on which one might be better for simply graphics games on
windows?  I'd like to play an old lucasfilm game that uses DirectX and
sound, and i can't decide which emulator to use.

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On Wed, 10 May 2000, Sheldon Hearn wrote:

[ In response to: S* and K* files for service startup and shutdown ]
> You should have a look at http://people.freebsd.org/~eivind/newrc.html
> before you conclude that this is a trivial issue.

Interesting stuff. Goes further than my requirements (I just did it myself,
then concluded it was trivial :-)

Had a look at that page, though, and there were some interesting points
raised. (Personally, I'm a fan of the sysV runlevel system.)

I'm not entirely convinced that points (1) "It should be easy for an
administrator to get an overview of what is started and in what
order" and the dependency-based topological sort are not diametrically
opposed.

I've often thought the latter would be nice (providing the "normalised
service descriptions" are human-readable) but I'm not completely
conviced that building startup scripts off the back of make is really
desirable.

So in rebuttal:

I keep on hearing that FBSD expects a bit of savvy (in so many
words) from its users. Certainly I'd expect it of an admin. The
rc?.d/[SK]* idiom from sysV seems to be a useful piece of functionality
(easy to manage with obvious gains); service dependencies must be sorted
out by the admin, admittedly, but I'd expect an admin installing a
startup script to have READ THE DOCUMENTATION and to have a good idea of
how said service will interact with the rest of his system. chkconfig is
admittedly very handy too. A full topological sort of services on
startup smacks of feeping creaturism.

jan

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I've got a FreeBSD 4.0 machine with 2 3C905 network cards.  Each of those
cards has a broadband Internet connection, on two different networks.

I've noticed that sometimes one or the other will become "default" when
the machine boots.  I'd like to benchmark the connections against each
other, but I'm not sure how to get the computer to start looking at one
and not the other, and back again.

Is there a simple process I can do for this?  If not, what should I be
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How do I match all non lower characters
from a string? Evidently the caret (^) sign
doesn't work:
echo "#¤%&a/()b=?" | sed -e '/[^[:lower:]]*/s///'

(returns: a/()b=?)
(what I want it to return is: ab)

Any ideas?

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Danny wrote:
> 
> Hello I get something simlar constantly too.
> 
> The ways I solved it was :-
> 
> 1) make sure that your smtp settings are correct
> 2) Sometimes I get that what I did was delete that email int the outbox (on the
> left hand side of your screen) and then close kmail
> then sent it again.
> 
> Then it worked.
> 
> Sure Kmail isn't as brillant as Eudora but after 4 years of using Eurdora as
> your default email client and supporting many different email clients like
> Outlook Express, Microsoft Outlook, Internet Mail, Netscape mail Kmail is a
> good chnage.
> 
> On Wed, 10 May 2000, chip wrote:
> > I have come up against a problem with Kmail recently. Here is the
> > error -
> >
> > Sending failed
> > a SMTP error occured.
> > Command: RCPT
> > Response: 550 unknown user 
> > Return code: 550
> >
> > This happens every time I try to send a message, to anyone. I don't
> > understand the unknown user part, I am the only user on this machine,
> > so why does it think freebsd.org is a user?
> > Did something get corrupted?
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Thanks, I sent a test message and it appears to have gone thru, I just
had to clear the old mail. I cleard sent, trash, and inbox and sent a
test okay.
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On Wed, 10 May 2000, Dan Larsson wrote:

> How do I match all non lower characters
> from a string? Evidently the caret (^) sign
> doesn't work:
> echo "#$%&a/()b=?" | sed -e '/[^[:lower:]]*/s///'
> 
> (returns: a/()b=?)
> (what I want it to return is: ab)

tr -c -d \[:lower:\]


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At 11:27 AM -0400 9/5/00, Bob Johnson wrote:
>  > I've tried 3.4-R and 4.0-R on this Fujitsu 735D laptop I have... I
>>  have it dualbooting, with the FreeBSD boot manager, NT 4 is installed
>>  in a partition that takes up the first 500Mb of the disk and this
>>  boots fine.... I'm now trying to install FreeBSD in a partition that
>>  takes up the rest of the disk - a 1.6Gb disk.
>>
>>  When I choose "F2 - FreeBSD" from the bootmanager, it boots the
>>  kernel fine, going through initialising the devices etc... then the
>>  last screen I can see has thing like the following:
>>
>>  find: not found
>>  date: not found
>>  uname: not found
>>  cp /etc/motd - not found
>>  can't exec getty - /usr/libexec/getty for /dev/ttyv0
>  > can't exec getty - /usr/libexec/getty for /dev/ttyv1
>  >
>  > so I'm wondering what's going on! I tried to have only one FreeBSD
>>  slice within it's 'dos partition'. Perhaps I have to have a separate
>>  /usr partition?
>
>Note on terminology.  In FreeBSD, a "slice" is the same thing as a
>"partition" in DOS/NT.  A FreeBSD "partition" is a subset of a
>"slice", and corresponds to a mountable volume.  So you can't put
>a FreeBSD "slice" in a DOS "partition" (you can fake it, but that
>isn't what you've described).

Right you are. I mean have only one filesystem for FreeBSD, the / 
filesystem, and it's on the second slice on the disk, the 500Mb NT 
slice/partition is first on the disk.

>  > Perhaps some of these executables have to be in the first 500Mb 
>of the disk...
>>
>
>
>That is probably it.  The / (root) partition has to be in the first 1024
>cylinders of the disk, because it uses BIOS calls to boot.  I don't
>know the boot process well enough to tell you if these particular
>errors would be a result of that.

Right. The BIOS says that LBA mode is on... Anyway, I'll try 
shrinking the NT filesystem, or just reinstalling it again as there's 
not much custom stuff in it yet. It just seems odd that it can boot 
the kernel from the FreeBSD slice but can't then find anything else. 
Maybe this is the symptom of the 1024 cylinder limit.

Thanks

-jesse

>The root partition usually only requires 30 - 50 MB, so I would
>consider using Partition Magic or a similar utility to steal that
>much space from the end of the NT partition (Partition Magic 5.0
>can resize NTFS partitions), and make it a FreeBSD slice that
>contains the / partition.  The remainder of the drive can be another
>FreeBSD slice that contains your other FreeBSD partitions.  By
>creating a separate slice for the / partition, you can force it to
>be exactly where you want it on the disk.  With care, you may be able
>to do this without a separate slice, but if you don't run out of
>partitions, why bother?
>
>If the NT partition does not already fill the first 1024 cylinders,
>you may not need to resize it.  You may simply need to create two
>FreeBSD slices: one that exists entirely within the first 1024
>cylinders, and one that can extend beyond them.  This gives you a
>way to guarantee that the entire / partition is within the first
>1024 cylinders.
>
>Since you already have NT installed, it may be too late for this,
>but using LBA mode to access the disk usually extends the 1024
>cylinder boundary well beyond 500 MB.
>
>Good luck.
>
>-- Bob
>
>*********************************************************
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>                        523 Weil Hall
>352-392-9217 Office    University of Florida
>352-392-7063 Fax       Gainesville, FL  32611
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I've got this shell program (part of a home-made sysadmin package):

#!/bin/sh
PING_PROG="/bin/ps -ax | /usr/bin/grep apache"
${PING_PROG}

My thought is that this should run the command(s) contained in PING_PROG.
However, this is the output I get:

root@skippyii# sh -x ./check_apache.sh
+ PING_PROG=/bin/ps -ax | /usr/bin/grep apache
+ /bin/ps -ax | /usr/bin/grep apache
ps: |: No such file or directory
root@skippyii#

I'm thorougly confused.  I know this can be done, but I can't seem to
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Any help would be appreciated.

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Hi!

I am currently trying to install StarOffice 5.1a from the ports collection.
It is not working, perhaps someone can shed some light on my predicament.
Here is the relevant info:

Output from "make install":
===>  Installing for staroffice-5.1a
===>   staroffice-5.1a depends on file:
/compat/linux/usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libc.so.5 - found
*** Signal 11

Stop in /usr/ports/editors/staroffice5.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/editors/staroffice5.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/editors/staroffice5.

System Info:
FreeBSD-current (05/09/2000)
linux_base-6.1
XFree86-3.3.6
Enlightenment-0.16.3

Thanks in advance!

Ian Cartwright
Senior Engineer
Raymond James Associates
icartwright@it.rjf.com


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I am running FBSD 3.4R and Netscape 4.72.

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At 02:13 AM 5/10/00 +0200, Karel J. Bosschaart wrote:
>On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 11:21:05AM -0400, Marcelo J. Iturbe wrote:
> > Hello,
> > When I bought FreeBSD, I thought I was buying a stable version but they
> > sent me 3.3-Release (back in December).
>
>A release is actually a 'snapshot' from the stable branch of FreeBSD
>and is certainly 'stable'.

Thanks for clearing that up..

>Try to find out first *why* you have problems with 3.3-release. For example:
>
>- Be sure your hardware is supported (what SCSI controller do you have?).
>- What kind of problems do you encounter? Is there an error message that
>gives a clue?

The SCSI problem I solved last night. I ended up replacing the controler.
BUT there is a memory (RAM) problem which persists.

When I run top under freebsd I get:

Mem: 37M Active, 3848K Inact, 15M Wired, 3424K Cache, 7458K Buf, 532K Free

All those numbers add up to 67.262Megs of RAM. this machine has a total of 
256Megs of RAM.
It also has 768 megs of swap and that is showed in a more friendly manner:

Swap: 768M Total, 372M Used, 396M Free, 48% Inuse, 100K In, 128K Out

It seems to me that the FreeBSD is not recognizing the total RAM that the 
machine has.
SO, I was trying to download the 3.3-Release kernel source so that I could 
do as recomended. ( I have no clue who took my 3.3-release CD)

"Sounds like its not seeing all of you ram - you will need to set maxmem in
the config and recompile it."

Any thoughts?
Marcelo




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If you can make it work with WINE; I think that´s the best solution, but you
probably cant. Then VMware is your choice, but´s it more CPU intensive.

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> Any thoughts on which one might be better for simply graphics games on
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> sound, and i can't decide which emulator to use.
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I'm having trouble installing 4.0-RELEASE - I get through the bootup and
kernel setup, but the "Probing..." screen hangs for about 10-15 minutes.
The installation screen comes up after that, but when I try to start setup,
it tells me that no hard drives are found.  The kernel options I have
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    port    irq
ata0    0x1f0    14
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>Are you sure that it's complaining about inodes? Could it be mbufs?

Hmm, I dunno.  What does "/var out of inodes" sound like to you?

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Where can I find the parameters in FreeBSD (3.4) where
the size of the maillog and the number of backlogs 
are kept?


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On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 10:32:26AM -0400, Marcelo Iturbe wrote:
> 
> When I run top under freebsd I get:
> 
> Mem: 37M Active, 3848K Inact, 15M Wired, 3424K Cache, 7458K Buf, 532K Free
> 
> All those numbers add up to 67.262Megs of RAM. this machine has a total of 
> 256Megs of RAM.
> It also has 768 megs of swap and that is showed in a more friendly manner:
> 
> Swap: 768M Total, 372M Used, 396M Free, 48% Inuse, 100K In, 128K Out
> 
> It seems to me that the FreeBSD is not recognizing the total RAM that the 
> machine has.
> SO, I was trying to download the 3.3-Release kernel source so that I could 
> do as recomended. ( I have no clue who took my 3.3-release CD)
> 
> "Sounds like its not seeing all of you ram - you will need to set maxmem in
> the config and recompile it."

See http://www.nl.freebsd.org/FAQ/troubleshoot.html#REALLYBIGRAM which 
describes the problem that you most probably have. You need to recompile
the kernel with the option 

options "MAXMEM=262144"  

for 256 MB of RAM. There is an entry in the handbook how to recompile
your kernel (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/kernelconfig.html).

If you don't have the CD anymore, you need to download the kernel sources,
which is most easily done by using /stand/sysinstall (FTP)  and selecting the
kernel source there ('post-install configuration of FreeBSD', 
'install additional distribution sets', 'sources for everything but
encryption', '/usr/src/sys'). Be sure to grab the kernel source version
matching your FreeBSD version (3.3-RELEASE). 

Good luck,

Karel.


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its in /etc/newsyslog.conf

regards

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> 
> 
> Where can I find the parameters in FreeBSD (3.4) where
> the size of the maillog and the number of backlogs 
> are kept?
> 
> 
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| Where can I find the parameters in FreeBSD (3.4) where
| the size of the maillog and the number of backlogs 
| are kept?

man 5 syslog.conf

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------------
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| | Where can I find the parameters in FreeBSD (3.4) where
| | the size of the maillog and the number of backlogs 
| | are kept?
| 
| man 5 syslog.conf

and of course 'man 8 newsyslog'

| 

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>> Note that /var only has 2% of inodes in use!  Hunting through my log
>> files I don't find any clues suggesting what happened.
>
>10 to 1 that you have some process rotating logfiles but not
>releasing an open filehandle when it does.

Ok, at first glance that sounds like a good guess.  But if this was it
I would expect to see a more or less linear increase in inode usage
over time.  I haven't seen that but I've only been spot-checking.  It
seems like inode usage is more or less the same until the near the
critical moment.  Thinking back I did manage to catch it once as it was
happening a few months ago, but I only had a few minutes to poke around
looking for clues before it went belly-up.  I'm guessing you're wrong,
but I think I'll whip up a cron job to periodically log inode usage
anyhow.  That should at least help build a better evidence trail for
next time.

>/usr/ports/sysutils/lsof is your friend :-)

Good point.  The trick is invoking it at the point when there is
actually something to see.  Hmm, maybe I can work that into the above
cron job.

-Mitch


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On Wed, 10 May 2000 04:19:46 -0400, Jacky Chan wrote:

> (I)Does FreeBSD support Modem Dial-up Networking?

FreeBSD supports networking over modem dial-up.  I think the answer to
your question is "yes". :-)

> (II)Does it support Internet Modem and What kind of Modem and Chipset does
> it support?

Is "Internet Modem" a brand of modem?  It doesn't really matter, I
suppose, since my answer is that you should have a look at the FreeBSD
web page:

	http://www.freebsd.org/

Specifically, check out the hardware compatibility list and the Handbook
-- oh, and the PPP primer. :-)

Ciao,
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Hello All!

I have a USB 250 MB Zip drive that I would like to use with my FreeBSD
workstation. But there is a problem when I hook it up: it is detected before
my SCSI devices are. It therefore becomes da0 which is a Bad Thing since
that is where my root partition is supposed to be. Therefore I would like to
be able to either a) have it detected _after_ my SCSI devices or b) be able
to hot plug it. Does anyone know how I might go about accomplishing either a
or b?

Thanks!

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Jim wrote:
> 
> I am running FBSD 3.4R and Netscape 4.72.
> 
> I am having trouble with the small fonts, and the lack of fonts.
> I have adjusted the setting in the app, but this doesn't always help.
> 
> Can someone give me a quick and painless way to get more fonts on my
> system that netscape can use?
> 
> I am not very familiar with how fonts work on FBSD and reading the online
> docs is a real pain.

Hi Jim,

It isn't a FreeBSD problem. It is probably a XFree86 problem and
Netscape. You should get used to the fact that x-windows is an
application. Problems with x-windows is an XFree86.org problem. The
fact that you can get help on questions@freebsd.org doesn't change
that fact :).

I was having problems with x-windows and fonts. I finally captured
"startx >& startx.txt" and it told me I needed to make some fonts. It
told me where to cd to and what to type then. I have always added the
complete set of fonts from the XFree86 3.3.6 distrubtion. I have
restarted x several times and can't help you unless the capture works
for you.

Good luck,

Kent

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> TIA
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> Jim
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>>Any thoughts on which one might be better for simply graphics games on
>>windows?  I'd like to play an old lucasfilm game that uses DirectX and
>>sound, and i can't decide which emulator to use.

I had problems with Wine, but that was also under Linux.  It seams that
project is very much in beta (but they have come a very long way).  I never
tried to run any games, at the time I don't think they had Direct X support
in the code.  I was able to get MS Word 97 to run "somewhat" stable, as long
as all you wanted to do is type and save.

I will be getting a copy of vmware sometime in the next week or so...I'll
let you know how it works.  I have a feeling that it's going to be a
resource hog since it creates a separate virtual machine complete with an
Award BIOS and everything...

We'll see


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On Wed, 10 May 2000 11:05:30 -0400, Mitch Collinsworth wrote:

>What does "/var out of inodes" sound like to you?

Too many files?

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In the last episode (May 10), Ian Cartwright said:
> Hello All!
> 
> I have a USB 250 MB Zip drive that I would like to use with my
> FreeBSD workstation. But there is a problem when I hook it up: it is
> detected before my SCSI devices are. It therefore becomes da0 which
> is a Bad Thing since that is where my root partition is supposed to
> be. Therefore I would like to be able to either a) have it detected
> _after_ my SCSI devices or b) be able to hot plug it. Does anyone
> know how I might go about accomplishing either a or b?

You have a couple choices for a)

1. wire down your devices in your kernel config so each physical device
(bus 1, id 1, lun 0) always appears as the same logical device (da0,
etc).  see LINT for examples.

2. shuffle the SCSI IDs so your ZIP has a higher ID

3. edit /etc/fstab and change the mountpoints to reflect the fact that
your drives have moved.

for b), make sure your scsi bus is idle, plug ZIP thing in and run
"camcontrol rescan".  This is dangerous, since you have a chance of
zapping hardware.  I've done it successfully a number of times, but
don't recommend others do it :) Alternatively, you can hook the ZIP
drive up but just leave it off until the system is booted.  Then turn
it on and run "camcontrol rescan".

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>>What does "/var out of inodes" sound like to you?
>
>Too many files?


Very good.  But the real question is where did they come from, and
why aren't they still there after rebooting?

-Mitch


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	I understand this is a FreeBSD mailing list, and although my example is
not taken from FreeBSD, I'm assuming this same problem could carry
accross any platform when making kde, (that... and I'm not part of, nor
do I know of any Solaris mailing lists... least of all for the old(er)
version(s) of Solaris in question here).
	I'm not much of a Solaris user, and after this past few hours trying to
get kde to work on a sparc, I'm definetly not much of an advocate for it
either. However, since the software we have was designed for
Solaris/Sparc architecture, I'll have to make-do.
	We're currently using Solaris Desktop Edition v 2.5.1, on several Sparc
4m/4u boxes. They share /usr/local over NFS to one of our FreeBSD boxes,
(basically because they have little drivespace left in /usr, and we
wanted to share kde to all of them). Kde is installed into /usr/local,
and qt is installed into /usr/local/qt. I downloaded the pre-compiled
binary distributions from ftp.kde.org for Solaris 2.6, (which is
supposed to work for Solaris 2.5.1); they installed fine using pkgadd,
no errors. I remove my .xinitrc file so as not to bring up the default
window manager, (I had previously compiled qvwm on these things),
startup x, and run kde. Kde dies, and produces the following errors:

ld.so.1: kbgndwm: fatal: relocation error: symbol not found:
XInternAtoms: referenced in /usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so
ld.so.1: kcontrol: fatal: relocation error: symbol not found:
XInternAtoms: referenced in /usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so
ld.so.1: kwm: fatal: relocation error: symbol not found: XInternAtoms:
referenced in /usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so
ld.so.1: kfm: fatal: relocation error: symbol not found: XInternAtoms:
referenced in /usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so
ld.so.1: krootwm: fatal: relocation error: symbol not found:
XInternAtoms: referenced in /usr/local/qt/lib/libqt.so

1072 Killed
1071 Killed, (etc - all the kde pid numbers)

	I figure this is more of a QT thing, but I'm not too familiar with QT.
If anyone has any ideas or suggestions I'd be happy to hear them. My
next course of action I think is going to be to compile QT using gcc
2.7.2 and see what I get.


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J McKitrick said on May 10, 2000 at 13:56:23:
> Any thoughts on which one might be better for simply graphics games on
> windows?  I'd like to play an old lucasfilm game that uses DirectX and
> sound, and i can't decide which emulator to use.

I found wine works quite respectably for games like Tetris, on a 200
MHz Pentium with 32 MB RAM. That was a long time ago.  Those things
don't use either DirectX or sound, but I think wine supports both.
I've heard VMWare needs much more RAM to run. Probably depends on how
powerful your machine is...

I'd say no harm in trying out wine, it's free. And if it
can be used to run the release version Corel's WordPerfect Office,
it can't be too bad.

R


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Sounds great, except for one small problem: my Zip drive is USB. So there is
no on/off switch, no ID, etc. Personally, I think that using the dax device
names for USB mass storage devises invites problems such as the one I am
having, but maybe it will get fixed down the road...

BTW: I did try changing fstab, but I ran into a different problem there. My
boot drive is actually my second SCSI drive (ID1) so, it would normally show
up as da1s1a, da1s1b, etc. When the Zip drive is plugged in, the second SCSI
drive (now the third da device) shows up as da2. But my /dev directory has
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-----Original Message-----
From:	Dan Nelson [mailto:dnelson@emsphone.com]
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Subject:	Re: USB Zip drive

In the last episode (May 10), Ian Cartwright said:
> Hello All!
> 
> I have a USB 250 MB Zip drive that I would like to use with my
> FreeBSD workstation. But there is a problem when I hook it up: it is
> detected before my SCSI devices are. It therefore becomes da0 which
> is a Bad Thing since that is where my root partition is supposed to
> be. Therefore I would like to be able to either a) have it detected
> _after_ my SCSI devices or b) be able to hot plug it. Does anyone
> know how I might go about accomplishing either a or b?

You have a couple choices for a)

1. wire down your devices in your kernel config so each physical device
(bus 1, id 1, lun 0) always appears as the same logical device (da0,
etc).  see LINT for examples.

2. shuffle the SCSI IDs so your ZIP has a higher ID

3. edit /etc/fstab and change the mountpoints to reflect the fact that
your drives have moved.

for b), make sure your scsi bus is idle, plug ZIP thing in and run
"camcontrol rescan".  This is dangerous, since you have a chance of
zapping hardware.  I've done it successfully a number of times, but
don't recommend others do it :) Alternatively, you can hook the ZIP
drive up but just leave it off until the system is booted.  Then turn
it on and run "camcontrol rescan".

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Guess i should be specific and say i want to play 'Return to Monkey Island'
really bad, since i removed windows from my machine....

jm
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On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 11:05:30AM -0400, Mitch Collinsworth wrote:
> 
> >Are you sure that it's complaining about inodes? Could it be mbufs?
> 
> Hmm, I dunno.  What does "/var out of inodes" sound like to you?

Ok - :)

What have you got that creates lots and lots of little files every now
and then, maybe in /var/tmp ?

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I'm trying to get sendmail 8.10.1 running with
SMTP-AUTH.  Everything compiles ok and sendmail
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sendmail[321]: unable to dlopen /usr/local/lib/sasl/libdigestmd5.so: /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.1: Undefined
 symbol "ERR_load_RSAREF_strings"

in /var/log/messages.

I'm running 3.4-STABLE, just did a clean cvsup/buildworld,
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>Guess i should be specific and say i want to play 'Return to Monkey Island'
>really bad, since i removed windows from my machine....

There has to be a M$ joke hiding in here somewhere.  :-)

-Mitch


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On Wed, 10 May 2000 keramida@ceid.upatras.gr wrote:
> On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 09:51:41AM -0400, Matthew Emmerton wrote:
> > 
> > I've got this shell program (part of a home-made sysadmin package):
> > 
> > #!/bin/sh
> > PING_PROG="/bin/ps -ax | /usr/bin/grep apache"
> > ${PING_PROG}
> > 
> > My thought is that this should run the command(s) contained in PING_PROG.
> > However, this is the output I get:
> 
> Try using this:
> 
> 	#!/bin/sh
> 	PING_PROG="ps -ax | grep apache"
> 	eval "${PING_PROG}"
> 
> Then the commands that result from the expansion of PING_PROG will
> be executed by your shell.
> 
> - giorgos keramidas

Of course!  I feel *so* stupid.  It works, I'm happy, and forever
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J McKitrick said on May 10, 2000 at 17:02:10:
> Guess i should be specific and say i want to play 'Return to Monkey Island'
> really bad, since i removed windows from my machine....

In that case I don't think you can run vmware in any case. It's
not an emulator, it runs windows as a subprocess under freebsd (or
something like that).

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> I have just installed qmail
> 
> and in the testing process I have come accross the following error.
> 
> May 10 16:00:04 pchost qmail: 957938404.906272 status: local 0/10 remote 1/20
> May 10 16:00:07 pchost qmail: 957938407.294690 delivery 5246: 
> deferral: Connected_to_203.36.210.200_but_connection_died._(#4.4.2)/     
> 
> I have looked at the qmail archives.
> 
> And have not found any fixes to the problem 

Looks like a routing problem, rather than a qmail config problem.
What is 203.36.210.200 -- the local host or a remote machine? 
Is your interface configured and is your routing set up correctly? 
Try
    telnet 203.36.210.200 25
and see whether you get any message in reply.

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>What have you got that creates lots and lots of little files every now
>and then, maybe in /var/tmp ?

Lots and lots, as in half a million.  Excellent question.  My original
message gave the list of work being done by this machine:

>I have a server running 3.0-R that serves DNS, ntp,
>NIS, NFS, sendmail, imap, pop, majordomo, DHCP, and syslog.

I'm not imagining any of these going to that extreme under normal
operation.  Maybe sendmail or majordomo if they were under extreme
load, but they're not.  If they were there would be evidence of that
in the logs.  I believe it's got to be a failure mode of some sort.
Especially since this seems to happen rather suddenly and then all
traces are gone after reboot.  Seems like a race condition somewhere.

-Mitch


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On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 12:20:17PM -0400, Mitch Collinsworth wrote:
> 
> >Guess i should be specific and say i want to play 'Return to Monkey Island'
> >really bad, since i removed windows from my machine....
> 
> There has to be a M$ joke hiding in here somewhere.  :-)

Good one  ;-)  A monkey OS to run a monkey game.
> 
> -Mitch


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Hi,

    Try "man inetd", the answer its in there, pay atention to the "-R"
option of inetd.

Have Fun...
Ales

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> In the past two days I've seen this message popping up in the logs and on
> the console. Any clue as to what this means.
>
> inetd[94]: auth/tcp server failing (looping), service terminated
>
>
>
> Keith
>
>
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I know I saw that someone mentioned that they were in the process or going
to port over Openssh 2.0 into current.  Has this happened yet and when if
ever can we expect this to be merged into 4.0 -stable?


Thanks

Chris

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Hi,
Further to the problems I reported yesterday
- panic : vinvalbuf: dirty bufs
- fixit floppy

I couldn't work out what to do in fixit, so I installed 3.4 on
another disk, which is now up and running, so I can forget
about the fixit floppy problem.

I've now put the old disk in as a 'slave' and when I boot it
recognises the disk as /dev/wdc1

What I want to do is try and mount my old /usr partition
and hopefully recover some files.

I was hoping to do something like

mount /dev/wd1s1f /mnt

but /dev/wd1s1f does not exist

I guess I need to do 'newfs' or something similar, but
the man page is a little cryptic.

Can anyone point me in direction of a tutorial style document ?

Thanks in advance
Dave


David Larkin wrote:

> Hi,
> Still trying to get to bottom of 'panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs'
> problem described below.
>
> I've now booted the fixit floppy
>
> Could someone advise me how to check that certain files
> still exist on the hard disk.
>
> I guess I need to mount my /usr partition as /mnt
>
> /usr was /dev/wd0s1f
>
> on fixit floppy I have /dev/wd0s1 & /dev/rwd0s1
>
> Can I mount the /usr partition ???
>
> Assuming I can,  and that I find the files I'm particularly keen
> not to lose, can I get them off ,  to floppy or by ftp ?
> They are modest sized source files.
>
> I've not been able to find any documentation on using fixit.
> Could someone point me in right direction.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Dave
>
>
> David Larkin wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Is anyone familiar with the error message
>>
>> panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs
>>
>> I've looked through archives, and seen similar messages during
>> installation, or creating new filesystems, but I'm getting it
>> on a system that's been working fine for some time.
>>
>> AMD-K6(tm)-2/450
>> 256 MB RAM
>> FUJITSU MPD3173AT
>> FreeBSD 3.3
>>
>> Suddenly last week I started getting system crashes and had to
>> run FSCK manually a couple of times.
>>
>> I then noticed the following error occuring at regular intervals.
>>
>> soft  error writing fsbn
>>
>> the system has now crashed and now will not boot.
>>
>> Changing root device to wd0s1a
>> WARNING: / was not properly dismounted
>> swapon: adding /dev/wd0s1b as swap device
>> Automatic reboot in progress...
>> /dev/rwd0s1a: 1026 files, 26068 used, 37435 free (283 frags, 4644
>> blocks, 0.4% fragmented)
>> /dev/rwd0s1f: FILESYSTEM CLEAN: SKIPPING CHECKS
>> /dev/rwd0s1f: clean, 6471325 free (1041541 frags, 678723 blocks,
>> 6.6% fragmentation)
>> /dev/rwd0s1e: FILESYSTEM CLEAN: SKIPPING CHECKS
>> /dev/rwd0s1e: clean, 21123 free (451 frags, 2584 blocks, 1.1%
>> fragmentation)
>> panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs
>> syncing disks... 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 giving up
>>
>> Clearly anyone knowing the exact solution would be most welcome.
>> However interpretation of the error messages to give a best guess on
>> the following would be a start.
>>
>> Is this a disk hardware problem ?
>> Is it configuration problem ?
>> Are contents of disk corrupt ?
>> Could this be anything to do with large filesystems ?
>>
>> It's a 17GB disk, and I've recently added new data taking the /usr
>> partition up to about 65% full.
>>
>> Any advice would be welcome, Thanks in Advance
>> Dave
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>> David Larkin,
>> D.J.L. Software Consultancy Ltd. The Industry Centre,
>> Sunderland Enterprise Park, SR5 3XB  UK
>> Switchboard Tel: 44 191 5152666 Fax: 44 191 5152669
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Hi,

Further to the problems I reported yesterday

- panic : vinvalbuf: dirty bufs

- fixit floppy

I couldn't work out what to do in fixit, so I installed 3.4 on

another disk, which is now up and running, so I can forget

about the fixit floppy problem.

I've now put the old disk in as a 'slave' and when I boot it

recognises the disk as /dev/wdc1

What I want to do is try and mount my old /usr partition

and hopefully recover some files.

I was hoping to do something like

mount /dev/wd1s1f /mnt

but /dev/wd1s1f does not exist

I guess I need to do 'newfs' or something similar, but

the man page is a little cryptic.

Can anyone point me in direction of a tutorial style document ?

Thanks in advance

Dave

 

David Larkin wrote:

Hi,

Still trying to get to bottom of 'panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs'

problem described below.

I've now booted the fixit floppy

Could someone advise me how to check that certain files

still exist on the hard disk.

I guess I need to mount my /usr partition as /mnt

/usr was /dev/wd0s1f

on fixit floppy I have /dev/wd0s1 & /dev/rwd0s1

Can I mount the /usr partition ???

Assuming I can,  and that I find the files I'm particularly keen

not to lose, can I get them off ,  to floppy or by ftp ?

They are modest sized source files.

I've not been able to find any documentation on using fixit.

Could someone point me in right direction.

Thanks in advance

Dave

 

David Larkin wrote:

Hi,

Is anyone familiar with the error message

panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs

I've looked through archives, and seen similar messages during

installation, or creating new filesystems, but I'm getting it

on a system that's been working fine for some time.

AMD-K6(tm)-2/450

256 MB RAM

FUJITSU MPD3173AT

FreeBSD 3.3

Suddenly last week I started getting system crashes and had to

run FSCK manually a couple of times.

I then noticed the following error occuring at regular intervals.

soft  error writing fsbn

the system has now crashed and now will not boot.

Changing root device to wd0s1a

WARNING: / was not properly dismounted

swapon: adding /dev/wd0s1b as swap device

Automatic reboot in progress...

/dev/rwd0s1a: 1026 files, 26068 used, 37435 free (283 frags, 4644 blocks,
0.4% fragmented)

/dev/rwd0s1f: FILESYSTEM CLEAN: SKIPPING CHECKS

/dev/rwd0s1f: clean, 6471325 free (1041541 frags, 678723 blocks, 6.6%
fragmentation)

/dev/rwd0s1e: FILESYSTEM CLEAN: SKIPPING CHECKS

/dev/rwd0s1e: clean, 21123 free (451 frags, 2584 blocks, 1.1% fragmentation)

panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs

syncing disks... 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 giving up

Clearly anyone knowing the exact solution would be most welcome.

However interpretation of the error messages to give a best guess on
the following would be a start.

Is this a disk hardware problem ?

Is it configuration problem ?

Are contents of disk corrupt ?

Could this be anything to do with large filesystems ?

It's a 17GB disk, and I've recently added new data taking the /usr

partition up to about 65% full.

Any advice would be welcome, Thanks in Advance

Dave

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On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 12:37:26PM -0400, Mitch Collinsworth wrote:
> 
> >What have you got that creates lots and lots of little files every now
> >and then, maybe in /var/tmp ?
> 
> Lots and lots, as in half a million.  Excellent question.  My original
> message gave the list of work being done by this machine:
> 
> >I have a server running 3.0-R that serves DNS, ntp,
> >NIS, NFS, sendmail, imap, pop, majordomo, DHCP, and syslog.
> 
> I'm not imagining any of these going to that extreme under normal
> operation.  Maybe sendmail or majordomo if they were under extreme
> load, but they're not.  If they were there would be evidence of that
> in the logs.  I believe it's got to be a failure mode of some sort.
> Especially since this seems to happen rather suddenly and then all
> traces are gone after reboot.  Seems like a race condition somewhere.

Yes, but not experienced by anyone else in my knowledge.  We were running
3.0-R on live servers with lots of load, (web, mail, and news), and
didn't experience this.

That's why I suggested temp files.  They _would_ disappear after a
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Hello,

I am currently running 4.0 -stable on a Thinkpad 600e.  I have the
following set in my kernel:

device          pcm
options         PNPBIOS 


Unfortunatly I am not getting any sound and am getting the following
dmesg:

csa0:  mem
0x50000000-0x500
fffff,0x50100000-0x50100fff irq 11 at device 6.0 on pci0
pcm0:  on csa0
pcm0: ac97 codec reports dac not ready

and

unknown:  can't assign resources
unknown0:  at port 0-0xf,0x80-0x8f,0xc0-0xdf drq 4 on isa0
unknown1:  at port 0x40-0x43 irq 0 on isa0
unknown2:  at port 0x70-0x73 irq 8 on isa0
unknown3:  at port 0x61 on isa0
unknown:  can't assign resources
unknown:  can't assign resources
unknown4:  at port 0xf0-0xff irq 13 on isa0
unknown:  can't assign resources
unknown5:  at port 0xcf8-0xcff on isa0
unknown6:  at port
0x22,0x2e-0x2f,0x92,0xb2-0xb3,0x4d0-0x4d1,0x15e0-0x1
5ef,0xef00-0xefaf iomem
0-0x9ffff,0xf0000-0xfffff,0x100000-0x11ffffff,0xffff0000
-0xffffffff on isa0
unknown7:  at port 0x3bc-0x3bf irq 7 on isa0
unknown:  can't assign resources
pcm1:  at port 0x530-0x537,0x388-0x38b,0x220-0x233 irq 5 drq
1,0 on 
isa0
unknown8:  at port 0x538-0x53f on isa0
unknown9:  at port 0x200-0x207 on isa0
unknown:  can't assign resources
unknown10:  at port 0x130-0x13f,0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3,10 drq 7 on
isa0
unknown:  can't assign resources
unknown:  can't assign resources
unknown:  can't assign resources
unknown:  can't assign resources
unknown11:  on isa0

I have looked through the archives with various solutions but none seem to
help.  Any suggestions would be great.

Thanks

Chris

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Hi,

Will FreeBSD be able to utilize the 64-Bit Architecture of the Itanium. And
if so(stupid me, it will !!), when (which ver.) ?

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Hi again,
Second question, if there is support for the Itanium in FreeBSD, will it be
for SMP as well ? Dual Itaniums(Looking forward to my X-mas gift !)

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In the last episode (May 10), Ian Cartwright said:
> Sounds great, except for one small problem: my Zip drive is USB. So
> there is no on/off switch, no ID, etc. Personally, I think that using
> the dax device names for USB mass storage devises invites problems
> such as the one I am having, but maybe it will get fixed down the
> road...

hmmmm.  Well, you can still wire down your SCSI disks, which is more
important.  Wire them to da0 and da1, and let the USB drive float,
attaching as da2.  You might even be able to wire the USB deivce down
by doing something like

device        scbus0 at umass0
device        da2 at scbus0 target 0

Not sure, though.  I have only wired down SCSI disks, and I have always
wired them in groups starting at da0.

You should also be able to unplug the USB plug to the zip disk, plug it
in after the system is up, and do a camcontrol rescan to pick up the
new device (see the umass manpage).  This probably isn't very
convenient, though.
 
> BTW: I did try changing fstab, but I ran into a different problem
> there. My boot drive is actually my second SCSI drive (ID1) so, it
> would normally show up as da1s1a, da1s1b, etc. When the Zip drive is
> plugged in, the second SCSI drive (now the third da device) shows up
> as da2. But my /dev directory has no entries for ufs slices (i.e.
> there is a da2, da2s1, da2s2, etc. but no da2s1a, da2s1b).

You can run /dev/MAKEDEV to create missing entries.  devfs would fix
all this, but we may never get one :)

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Remove tha "csa0" bridge device from your kernel config.  On the 600e's
the CS461x has a cs423x codec attached to it instead of the ac'97.

On Wed, 10 May 2000, Christopher T. Griffiths wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I am currently running 4.0 -stable on a Thinkpad 600e.  I have the
> following set in my kernel:
> 
> device          pcm
> options         PNPBIOS 
> 
> 
> Unfortunatly I am not getting any sound and am getting the following
> dmesg:
> 
> csa0:  mem
> 0x50000000-0x500
> fffff,0x50100000-0x50100fff irq 11 at device 6.0 on pci0
> pcm0:  on csa0
> pcm0: ac97 codec reports dac not ready
> 
> and
> 
> unknown:  can't assign resources
> unknown0:  at port 0-0xf,0x80-0x8f,0xc0-0xdf drq 4 on isa0
> unknown1:  at port 0x40-0x43 irq 0 on isa0
> unknown2:  at port 0x70-0x73 irq 8 on isa0
> unknown3:  at port 0x61 on isa0
> unknown:  can't assign resources
> unknown:  can't assign resources
> unknown4:  at port 0xf0-0xff irq 13 on isa0
> unknown:  can't assign resources
> unknown5:  at port 0xcf8-0xcff on isa0
> unknown6:  at port
> 0x22,0x2e-0x2f,0x92,0xb2-0xb3,0x4d0-0x4d1,0x15e0-0x1
> 5ef,0xef00-0xefaf iomem
> 0-0x9ffff,0xf0000-0xfffff,0x100000-0x11ffffff,0xffff0000
> -0xffffffff on isa0
> unknown7:  at port 0x3bc-0x3bf irq 7 on isa0
> unknown:  can't assign resources
> pcm1:  at port 0x530-0x537,0x388-0x38b,0x220-0x233 irq 5 drq
> 1,0 on 
> isa0
> unknown8:  at port 0x538-0x53f on isa0
> unknown9:  at port 0x200-0x207 on isa0
> unknown:  can't assign resources
> unknown10:  at port 0x130-0x13f,0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3,10 drq 7 on
> isa0
> unknown:  can't assign resources
> unknown:  can't assign resources
> unknown:  can't assign resources
> unknown:  can't assign resources
> unknown11:  on isa0
> 
> I have looked through the archives with various solutions but none seem to
> help.  Any suggestions would be great.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Chris
> 
> ---
> Christopher T. Griffiths	        
> Quansoo Group Inc.
> cgriffiths@quansoo.com
> 
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>Yes, but not experienced by anyone else in my knowledge.  We were running
>3.0-R on live servers with lots of load, (web, mail, and news), and
>didn't experience this.

Fair enough.  That's why I posted the question, to find out if anyone 
had seen anything like this before.

>That's why I suggested temp files.  They _would_ disappear after a
>reboot.  BTW are you running soft-updates?

No soft-updates.  Haven't gotten past the "thinking about it" stage yet.
What I'm thinking is to try it out on the news server first.

I'll add a check of /var/tmp to the cron job I'm going to set up to
watch and log free inode count over time.  Maybe it'll turn up
something.  All I know right now is there are more inodes free 28 hours
after reboot than there were immediately after reboot when only 2% were
in use.

Anyhow thanks for brain-storming on it.

-Mitch


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Chris,
Aside from using pcm, you might want to also use another driver (like
sba), specifying port, dma, similar to what i did with my old SB16. Or
try it with the specs on pcm.

 device pcm0 at isa? port? irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15

YMMV. I'd recommend reading the man page for csa, though. You might
need a pcm/csa combo for it to work properly.
-Otter



"Christopher T. Griffiths" wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am currently running 4.0 -stable on a Thinkpad 600e.  I have the
> following set in my kernel:
> 
> device          pcm
> options         PNPBIOS
> 
> Unfortunatly I am not getting any sound and am getting the following
> dmesg:
> 
> csa0:  mem
> 0x50000000-0x500
> fffff,0x50100000-0x50100fff irq 11 at device 6.0 on pci0
> pcm0:  on csa0
> pcm0: ac97 codec reports dac not ready
> 
> and
> 
> unknown:  can't assign resources
> unknown0:  at port 0-0xf,0x80-0x8f,0xc0-0xdf drq 4 on isa0
> unknown1:  at port 0x40-0x43 irq 0 on isa0
> unknown2:  at port 0x70-0x73 irq 8 on isa0
> unknown3:  at port 0x61 on isa0
> unknown:  can't assign resources
> unknown:  can't assign resources
> unknown4:  at port 0xf0-0xff irq 13 on isa0
> unknown:  can't assign resources
> unknown5:  at port 0xcf8-0xcff on isa0
> unknown6:  at port
> 0x22,0x2e-0x2f,0x92,0xb2-0xb3,0x4d0-0x4d1,0x15e0-0x1
> 5ef,0xef00-0xefaf iomem
> 0-0x9ffff,0xf0000-0xfffff,0x100000-0x11ffffff,0xffff0000
> -0xffffffff on isa0
> unknown7:  at port 0x3bc-0x3bf irq 7 on isa0
> unknown:  can't assign resources
> pcm1:  at port 0x530-0x537,0x388-0x38b,0x220-0x233 irq 5 drq
> 1,0 on
> isa0
> unknown8:  at port 0x538-0x53f on isa0
> unknown9:  at port 0x200-0x207 on isa0
> unknown:  can't assign resources
> unknown10:  at port 0x130-0x13f,0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3,10 drq 7 on
> isa0
> unknown:  can't assign resources
> unknown:  can't assign resources
> unknown:  can't assign resources
> unknown:  can't assign resources
> unknown11:  on isa0
> 
> I have looked through the archives with various solutions but none seem to
> help.  Any suggestions would be great.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Chris
> 
> ---
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> Quansoo Group Inc.
> cgriffiths@quansoo.com
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Actually I have tried creating snd1 and nothing happens.  Also with your
other post, csa0 is not in in my kernel config.  Only the items listed
below.

Chris

On Wed, 10 May 2000 joeo@cracktown.com wrote:

> Alternately, you may want to do a "MAKEDEV snd1" in the dev directory,
> since the cs423x was showing up as pcm1 in your dmesg output, and see if
> that works.
> 
> On Wed, 10 May 2000, Christopher T. Griffiths wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I am currently running 4.0 -stable on a Thinkpad 600e.  I have the
> > following set in my kernel:
> > 
> > device          pcm
> > options         PNPBIOS 
> > 
> > 
> > Unfortunatly I am not getting any sound and am getting the following
> > dmesg:
> > 
> > csa0:  mem
> > 0x50000000-0x500
> > fffff,0x50100000-0x50100fff irq 11 at device 6.0 on pci0
> > pcm0:  on csa0
> > pcm0: ac97 codec reports dac not ready
> > 
> > and
> > 
> > unknown:  can't assign resources
> > unknown0:  at port 0-0xf,0x80-0x8f,0xc0-0xdf drq 4 on isa0
> > unknown1:  at port 0x40-0x43 irq 0 on isa0
> > unknown2:  at port 0x70-0x73 irq 8 on isa0
> > unknown3:  at port 0x61 on isa0
> > unknown:  can't assign resources
> > unknown:  can't assign resources
> > unknown4:  at port 0xf0-0xff irq 13 on isa0
> > unknown:  can't assign resources
> > unknown5:  at port 0xcf8-0xcff on isa0
> > unknown6:  at port
> > 0x22,0x2e-0x2f,0x92,0xb2-0xb3,0x4d0-0x4d1,0x15e0-0x1
> > 5ef,0xef00-0xefaf iomem
> > 0-0x9ffff,0xf0000-0xfffff,0x100000-0x11ffffff,0xffff0000
> > -0xffffffff on isa0
> > unknown7:  at port 0x3bc-0x3bf irq 7 on isa0
> > unknown:  can't assign resources
> > pcm1:  at port 0x530-0x537,0x388-0x38b,0x220-0x233 irq 5 drq
> > 1,0 on 
> > isa0
> > unknown8:  at port 0x538-0x53f on isa0
> > unknown9:  at port 0x200-0x207 on isa0
> > unknown:  can't assign resources
> > unknown10:  at port 0x130-0x13f,0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3,10 drq 7 on
> > isa0
> > unknown:  can't assign resources
> > unknown:  can't assign resources
> > unknown:  can't assign resources
> > unknown:  can't assign resources
> > unknown11:  on isa0
> > 



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Hi,

    Try "/usr/ports/net/ucd-snmp"

Have Fun...
Ales

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>
>
> Hello,
>
> I want to monitor utilization on my "tun0" and "xl0" interfaces,
> I want to maintain a graph using mrtg.
>
> How can this be done ?  Are there any snmp daemons that
> I can use ?
>
> thanks.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------
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just a thought. check scsi bus for proper termination.
see what camcontrol can say about your bus status

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On 10-May-00 Ian Cartwright wrote:
> Hello All!
> 
> I have a USB 250 MB Zip drive that I would like to use with my FreeBSD
> workstation. But there is a problem when I hook it up: it is detected before
> my SCSI devices are. It therefore becomes da0 which is a Bad Thing since
> that is where my root partition is supposed to be. Therefore I would like to
> be able to either a) have it detected _after_ my SCSI devices or b) be able
> to hot plug it. Does anyone know how I might go about accomplishing either a
> or b?

USB is hot pluggable.  Just plug it in after the machine boots.  However,
for the real solution to your problem, hardwire da0 to your system drive.
For example, on a test machine I'm using, the system drive is on sym0, so
I have this in my kernel config (for -current, -stable is a little different,
look in LINT for details):

device          sym0            # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
device          scbus0  at sym0
device          da0     at scbus0

> Thanks!
> 
> Ian Cartwright
> Senior Engineer
> Raymond James Associates
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Hi,

    Define a hostname for this server in /etc/hosts file.

Good Luck
Ales

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> Hello,
>
> I have a question. I have a FreeBSD 4.0 Release and I can't get my apache
> working. I'm a single user - I don't have a network, only dial-up. I have
both
> FreeBSD and Linux installed and apache in Linux works. The starting script
for
> apache says this: [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to gethostbyname(""), so I
can't
> get httpd to run.
>
> I read your mailing lists but didn't find a solution that works for me. I
compared
> /etc/hosts and /etc/resolve.conf with Linux and they seem to be almost
identical.
> In resolve.conf in FreeBSD i have "hosts" and in resolve.conf I have my
local host
> specified with 127.0.0.1 number.
>
> I need this information because I plan to install FreeBSD later on some
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>
> Sincerely,
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On  9 May, Harris Kauffman wrote:
> have you put apmd_enable=yes in your rc.conf file?

Yes...

> At 11:19 AM 5/9/00 -0700, you wrote:
>>On  9 May, Salvo Bartolotta wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>> >
>> > On 5/9/00, 5:27:29 AM, Nate Puri  
>> wrote
>> > regarding APM & 4.0:
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hi all,
>> >
>> >> I have a dell inspiron 3000.  I have the following entry in my 
>> GENERIC
>> >> kernel config
>> >
>> >> device          apm0    at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced 
>> Power
>> >> Management
>> >
>> >> Is there something wrong with this for my machine?  I can 
>> suspend and
>> >> resume just fine.  However, time does not update.  Time stays at 
>> the
>> >> exact place where it was when I suspended the 
>> machine.  Thanks...
>> >
>> >> -nate
>> >
>> >
>> > # apm: Laptop Advanced Power Management (experimental)
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> > # Notes on APM
>> > #  The flags takes the following meaning for apm0:
>> > #  0x0020  Statclock is broken.
>> > #  If apm is omitted, some systems require sysctl -w
>> > kern.timecounter.method=1
>> > #  for correct timekeeping.
>> >
>> > Have you had a look at the apm man pages ?
>>
>>Yes, that and apmd.  I put in the kern.timecournter.method=1 
>>command. It
>>did not change the sitution.  When I run apmd, ps ax | grep apmd 
>>outputs
>>'grep apmd'.  So apmd is not running and will not run for some 
>>reason
>>even though I have it built into the kernel....
>>
>> > Actually, I don't use a laptop, but I hope this helps.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Salvo
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 01:34:42PM -0400, Mitch Collinsworth wrote:
> 
> What I'm thinking is to try it out on the news server first.
> 
> I'll add a check of /var/tmp to the cron job I'm going to set up to
> watch and log free inode count over time.  Maybe it'll turn up
> something.  All I know right now is there are more inodes free 28 hours
> after reboot than there were immediately after reboot when only 2% were
> in use.
> 
> Anyhow thanks for brain-storming on it.

Any reason why you can't move to 3.4-STABLE?

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On 05/09/00 at 11:25, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> haha, I slaved over this same configuration for a whole day, the
> problem I had was that the g400 only works properly in completely
> unaccelerated mode and even then I need to start, then kill, then
> restart X to get it initialised properly.
> 
> here's my XF86Config entry for the g400:
> 
> Section "Device"
>     Identifier  "MGA400 AGP"
>     Chipset      "mgag400"
>     Driver      "mga"
>     VideoRam    32768
>     BusID	"PCI:1:0:0"
>     Option	"NoAccel"
>     Option      "NoHWCursor"
> EndSection

Hoo ha!  That got it.  I've now got 2 monitors (a dual head
configuration) that are both up and functioning.  

Now, here's the rub:  How do I get the the xinerama monitor spanning
function of XFree86 4 to work?  I'm running enlightenment-0.16.4 up and
running, and the output from the make command shows that it is
xinerama-aware...
***Cut-N-Paste***
checking for XineramaQueryExtension in -lXinerama... yes

and then it calls -lXinerama in a couple of its cc calls...but how do I
get it to span the 2 monitors/allow me to drag apps between them.

I am starting windows with "startx +xinerama"  is this correct?

*sigh*

Thanks all,

Bryan
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>Any reason why you can't move to 3.4-STABLE?

Only the little matter of available time.  This machine is humming along
just fine save for this one annoying problem, which I'm guessing is in
one of the applications it's running rather than the OS itself.  I've
got other servers to install/upgrade that need far more tending to than
this one.  When things are in order there I'll be back to upgrade this
one.  I don't generally upgrade all my servers everytime a new release
comes out.  (Do you?)  In fact the ones I'm currently working on are far
older than this one.  (HP-UX and even one Ultrix.)  They're getting
complete box replacements with FreeBSD.

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* Bryan Albright  [000510 11:45] wrote:
> On 05/09/00 at 11:25, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> > haha, I slaved over this same configuration for a whole day, the
> > problem I had was that the g400 only works properly in completely
> > unaccelerated mode and even then I need to start, then kill, then
> > restart X to get it initialised properly.
> > 
> > here's my XF86Config entry for the g400:
> > 
> > Section "Device"
> >     Identifier  "MGA400 AGP"
> >     Chipset      "mgag400"
> >     Driver      "mga"
> >     VideoRam    32768
> >     BusID	"PCI:1:0:0"
> >     Option	"NoAccel"
> >     Option      "NoHWCursor"
> > EndSection
> 
> Hoo ha!  That got it.  I've now got 2 monitors (a dual head
> configuration) that are both up and functioning.  
> 
> Now, here's the rub:  How do I get the the xinerama monitor spanning
> function of XFree86 4 to work?  I'm running enlightenment-0.16.4 up and
> running, and the output from the make command shows that it is
> xinerama-aware...
> ***Cut-N-Paste***
> checking for XineramaQueryExtension in -lXinerama... yes
> 
> and then it calls -lXinerama in a couple of its cc calls...but how do I
> get it to span the 2 monitors/allow me to drag apps between them.
> 
> I am starting windows with "startx +xinerama"  is this correct?

hmm, tried -xinerama?

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On 05/10/00 at 11:48, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> > Hoo ha!  That got it.  I've now got 2 monitors (a dual head
> > configuration) that are both up and functioning.  
> > 
> > Now, here's the rub:  How do I get the the xinerama monitor spanning
> > function of XFree86 4 to work?  I'm running enlightenment-0.16.4 up and
> > running, and the output from the make command shows that it is
> > xinerama-aware...
> > ***Cut-N-Paste***
> > checking for XineramaQueryExtension in -lXinerama... yes
> > 
> > and then it calls -lXinerama in a couple of its cc calls...but how do I
> > get it to span the 2 monitors/allow me to drag apps between them.
> > 
> > I am starting windows with "startx +xinerama"  is this correct?
> 
> hmm, tried -xinerama?

Yep.  No go.  I also figured that since the documentation on
XFree86.org's website said "Xinerama is not enabled by default, and
can be enabled with the +xinerama command line option for the X
server." I thought that was how it had to be called...however, when I
try to start X either way, there is no Xinerama calls in the 
XFree86.0.log log file.  I wonder if I need to start up my X server a
differrent way...

Thanks,

Bryan
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	Assuming I have the kernel configured properly, and lines something
similar to this in /etc/fstab:

/dev/da1s1e             /home           ufs     rw              2      
2
/dev/da1s1f             /mail           ufs     rw              2      
2

	What would I need to do, both to /etc/fstab, and to /mail to enforce a
40Meg user quota, allowing a single user to reach an absolute maximum of
ten megabytes? Alternately, how would I force /home to allow each user
of a group to have 25megs storage max, and each user of a different
group to have 2megs max? (call them g1/g2 for sake of simplicity shall
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	I've read the manpages, and I've read several FAQ's, but I've not seen
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Hello,

I've a big problem and still didn't get a response to my mails in this list.
Please help!!!!

I've a little LAN. One machine (192.168.1.1 : a21064) is configured as a
gateway which forwards requests to my ISP via ppp. I've also Linux
(192.168.1.2 : p3x2lx) and FreeBSD (192.168.1.3 : p3x2fb) on other computers
installed . All works fine if  I use Linux :

$ telnet a21064  -> telnet session to gateway established (no dialup
to my ISP)
$ telnet p3x2fb  -> telnet session to FreeBSD box established (no
dialup to my ISP)

But if I try this on FreeBSD every time a connection is made to my ISP (I
think FreeBSD tries to ask the nameservers of my ISP). :

$ telnet a21064 ->  connection to my ISP, then it establishes the
telnet session to the gateway
$ telnet p3x2lx  -> connection to my ISP, then it establishes the
telnet session to the Linux box

I still don't know why because the scripts look similiar to the scripts from
Linux.
FreeBSD scripts:

# /etc/hosts
127.0.0.1        localhost
192.168.1.3    p3x2fb.network.de     .
192.168.1.1    a21064.network.de   a21064
192.168.1.2    p3x2lx.network.de     p3x2lx

# /etc/host.conf
hosts
bind

# /etc/resolv.conf
domain network.de
nameserver 195.185.185.195        # first nameserver of my ISP
nameserver 194.162.141.17          # second nameserver of my ISP
search network.de nacamar.de        # my private domain and ISP domain

I can't understand it - FreeBSD should first look into /etc/hosts and find
a21064 and p3x2lx (the IPs belong to the network segment) and shouldn't ask
the nameservers from my ISP. Why aren't the names resolved? The nameservers
should only asked if FreeBSD can't find the hostname in /etc/hosts ?!

Please help!!!!

with regards,
Oliver



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* Bryan Albright  [000510 11:55] wrote:
> On 05/10/00 at 11:48, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> > > Hoo ha!  That got it.  I've now got 2 monitors (a dual head
> > > configuration) that are both up and functioning.  
> > > 
> > > Now, here's the rub:  How do I get the the xinerama monitor spanning
> > > function of XFree86 4 to work?  I'm running enlightenment-0.16.4 up and
> > > running, and the output from the make command shows that it is
> > > xinerama-aware...
> > > ***Cut-N-Paste***
> > > checking for XineramaQueryExtension in -lXinerama... yes
> > > 
> > > and then it calls -lXinerama in a couple of its cc calls...but how do I
> > > get it to span the 2 monitors/allow me to drag apps between them.
> > > 
> > > I am starting windows with "startx +xinerama"  is this correct?
> > 
> > hmm, tried -xinerama?
> 
> Yep.  No go.  I also figured that since the documentation on
> XFree86.org's website said "Xinerama is not enabled by default, and
> can be enabled with the +xinerama command line option for the X
> server." I thought that was how it had to be called...however, when I
> try to start X either way, there is no Xinerama calls in the 
> XFree86.0.log log file.  I wonder if I need to start up my X server a
> differrent way...

doh, just remebered...

startx -- +xinerama

startx is a script and needs '--' to tell it to pass the remaining options
to the X server itself. :)

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On 05/10/00 at 12:13, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> * Bryan Albright  [000510 11:55] wrote:
> > On 05/10/00 at 11:48, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> > > > Hoo ha!  That got it.  I've now got 2 monitors (a dual head
> > > > configuration) that are both up and functioning.  
> > > > 
> > > > Now, here's the rub:  How do I get the the xinerama monitor spanning
> > > > function of XFree86 4 to work?  I'm running enlightenment-0.16.4 up and
> > > > running, and the output from the make command shows that it is
> > > > xinerama-aware...
> > > > ***Cut-N-Paste***
> > > > checking for XineramaQueryExtension in -lXinerama... yes
> > > > 
> > > > and then it calls -lXinerama in a couple of its cc calls...but how do I
> > > > get it to span the 2 monitors/allow me to drag apps between them.
> > > > 
> > > > I am starting windows with "startx +xinerama"  is this correct?
> > > 
> > > hmm, tried -xinerama?
> > 
> > Yep.  No go.  I also figured that since the documentation on
> > XFree86.org's website said "Xinerama is not enabled by default, and
> > can be enabled with the +xinerama command line option for the X
> > server." I thought that was how it had to be called...however, when I
> > try to start X either way, there is no Xinerama calls in the 
> > XFree86.0.log log file.  I wonder if I need to start up my X server a
> > differrent way...
> 
> doh, just remebered...
> 
> startx -- +xinerama
> 
> startx is a script and needs '--' to tell it to pass the remaining options
> to the X server itself. :)

Eeeexcellent.  I also (with a bit of digging) went in and looked at the
actual startx script itself.  Paging down about a page, I saw 2
arguments clientargs="" and serverargs="".  I inserted +xinerama into
the serverargs line and viola! I got it to function too.  Your way is
probably better, however, and I think I'm going to change the startx
script back to its original state and call it with the -- arguments.

Thanks tons!

Bryan
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Hi,

I always be updated whith the cvsup/make word/compiling mykernel, bud 
now to 4.0 there's a "mistic" here that all change. Is it true?

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I'm trying to run a UT server on FreeBSD.. Followed all the instructions and 
starts to load with ./ucc server DM-Turbine & but then after loading it 
gives this error:

 utserver /kernel: pid 836 (ucc), uid 0: exited on signal 4 (core 
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Any ideas why? Or what could be causing this? I have no idea how to fix it, 
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hello,

i had a similar problem like your until that i discovered that the
harddisk had two jumpers to set the termination and one of them was closed


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On Tue, 9 May 2000, Michael A. Smith wrote:

> > Ah, sorry, Dan (and all).  I didn't make myself clear.  It's the FreeBSD
> > side I'm good at - well, better - and, yes, I do have Greg's book - paid
> > for itself within a week.  It's the Solaris side I need help with.
> 
> I've found Mark G. Sobell's A Practical Guide to Solaris (ISBN:
> 0-201-89548-X) a great resource. It's almost as good as Greg's book!

Two others with a more general sysadmin focus, which include info about
Solaris, are:
"System Administrators Handbook" (Nemeth, Snyder & Seebass - publ ???)
"System Administration" (Frisch - published by O'Reilly)

The titles and authors are from memory, so you might need to do some
creative searching to pinpoint them.  Nemeth et al is probably a little
dated now (even 2nd edition).  Frisch is now out in 2nd edition too I
think.

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On Wed, 10 May 2000, Christopher T. Griffiths wrote:

> I know I saw that someone mentioned that they were in the process or going
> to port over Openssh 2.0 into current.  Has this happened yet and when if
> ever can we expect this to be merged into 4.0 -stable?

I'm still waiting for enough people to test it and pronounce it good
before committing it to -current. In order to MFC it requires some other
things to be MFC'ed first, so it could be a month or so.

Kris

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Thanks,

I guess I will just have to be patient :)

Chris


On Wed, 10 May 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote:

> On Wed, 10 May 2000, Christopher T. Griffiths wrote:
> 
> > I know I saw that someone mentioned that they were in the process or going
> > to port over Openssh 2.0 into current.  Has this happened yet and when if
> > ever can we expect this to be merged into 4.0 -stable?
> 
> I'm still waiting for enough people to test it and pronounce it good
> before committing it to -current. In order to MFC it requires some other
> things to be MFC'ed first, so it could be a month or so.
> 
> Kris
> 
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>> 
>> In linux, by default, I think you get the basic shell or "bash",
>> this shell allows you to simply hit the up arrow to go through a
>> bunch of your previous command line commands.
>> So I install FreeBSD, and lo and behold, I can find no such feature
>> in the basic (bourne?) shell.  Is there one?  How about for other
>> shells like csh and ssh?

Hi,
Well, in sh (Bourne shell) there is a list of 'history'. You can type h and a
list of your last commands will appear, with numbers.
I haven't figured out if you can use some kind of 'shorty' to repeat a command,
though. Anybody knows this?

And another thing! Anybody knows what file brings a shell to start with that
perticular shell? I want to change sh to bash, permanently. Not just for the
moment.

Thomas


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Keith,

Have you read apache's docs on the order that directives are
implemented?  I half-remember reading something to that effect, but
haven't the time to re-research it.  If you get really stuck, I might be
able to try to dupe your problem on one of my servers.

-Brad

keith@mail.telestream.com wrote:
> 
> Gave it a try. No luck whatsoever.  :(
> I'm open to idea's if you have any more. This is gonna be the death of
> me..
> 
> Keith
> 
> =================================
> I here by change the name
> of RedHat to RedSplat.
> 
> Keith W.
> At the helm 
> =================================
> 
> On Tue, 9 May 2000, Frank Schoenmann wrote:
> 
> > hi keith!
> >
> > Tuesday, May 09, 2000, 9:54:55 AM, you wrote:
> >
> > kmtc> How can I get ssi to work globaly in people ~'s? I've followed the
> > kmtc> instructions at apache.org. Have included the Options Includes AddType and
> > kmtc> AddHandler.  The only way I can get people to have ssi enabled is if they
> > kmtc> have Options Includes in their personal .htaccess file. I prefer to have
> > kmtc> it done individualy as opposed to globaly. It's just that now that I know
> > kmtc> it does not work globaly for some reason, it also means I don't know why
> > kmtc> it's working on an individual basis... Confusion.    :-/
> >
> > Have you tried something like the following in your apache configuration?
> >
> > 
> >     AllowOverride FileInfo AuthConfig Limit
> >     Options MultiViews Indexes SymLinksIfOwnerMatch Includes
> > 
> >
> >
> > >> "Believing oneself to be perfect is often the sign of a delusional mind." -- Data
> > --
> > bye, Frank!
> >
> >
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It looks as though what they're doing is sending the master to the duplication
machines, creating a duplicate, then scanning the created duplicate for virii. 
If there are none, then it is highly unlikely that durng the duplication process
(which can take days/weeks/etc) the master files will be corrupted with a virus.

-Adam

Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> 
> I'm hyper-caffinated right now, but how the hell does this protect
> users if the developers' boxes are infected?
> 
> Basically Joe Random MS coder builds the final release EXE/DLLs
> on his infected computer and how exactly does this intracate,
> but completely useless handoff proceedure purge that virus?
> 
> *boggles*
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Thomas Widlundh wrote:
> 
> >>
> >> In linux, by default, I think you get the basic shell or "bash",
> >> this shell allows you to simply hit the up arrow to go through a
> >> bunch of your previous command line commands.
> >> So I install FreeBSD, and lo and behold, I can find no such feature
> >> in the basic (bourne?) shell.  Is there one?  How about for other
> >> shells like csh and ssh?
> 
> Hi,
> Well, in sh (Bourne shell) there is a list of 'history'. You can type h and a
> list of your last commands will appear, with numbers.
> I haven't figured out if you can use some kind of 'shorty' to repeat a command,
> though. Anybody knows this?
> 
> And another thing! Anybody knows what file brings a shell to start with that
> perticular shell? I want to change sh to bash, permanently. Not just for the
> moment.

man chsh. There are other choices but they are all linked. When you
run chsh, if you don't provide the right path, you will have to login
and change it as administrator. If you are changing root, you will
have to single user boot and then use /bin/sh. You can get away with
"su -m" but I screwed up my .cshrc and tried that last night and it
locked up two terminal's before I rooted my solution.

Kent

> 
> Thomas

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Here's what I had in my 4.0 (at least I think it was 4.0) :)

device pcm0 at isa? port 0x52C irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x10


At 01:39 PM 5/10/00 -0400, Otter wrote:
>Chris,
>Aside from using pcm, you might want to also use another driver (like
>sba), specifying port, dma, similar to what i did with my old SB16. Or
>try it with the specs on pcm.
>
> device pcm0 at isa? port? irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15
>
>YMMV. I'd recommend reading the man page for csa, though. You might
>need a pcm/csa combo for it to work properly.
>-Otter
>
>
>
>"Christopher T. Griffiths" wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I am currently running 4.0 -stable on a Thinkpad 600e.  I have the
>> following set in my kernel:
>> 
>> device          pcm
>> options         PNPBIOS
>> 
>> Unfortunatly I am not getting any sound and am getting the following
>> dmesg:
>> 
>> csa0:  mem
>> 0x50000000-0x500
>> fffff,0x50100000-0x50100fff irq 11 at device 6.0 on pci0
>> pcm0:  on csa0
>> pcm0: ac97 codec reports dac not ready
>> 
>> and
>> 
>> unknown:  can't assign resources
>> unknown0:  at port 0-0xf,0x80-0x8f,0xc0-0xdf drq 4 on isa0
>> unknown1:  at port 0x40-0x43 irq 0 on isa0
>> unknown2:  at port 0x70-0x73 irq 8 on isa0
>> unknown3:  at port 0x61 on isa0
>> unknown:  can't assign resources
>> unknown:  can't assign resources
>> unknown4:  at port 0xf0-0xff irq 13 on isa0
>> unknown:  can't assign resources
>> unknown5:  at port 0xcf8-0xcff on isa0
>> unknown6:  at port
>> 0x22,0x2e-0x2f,0x92,0xb2-0xb3,0x4d0-0x4d1,0x15e0-0x1
>> 5ef,0xef00-0xefaf iomem
>> 0-0x9ffff,0xf0000-0xfffff,0x100000-0x11ffffff,0xffff0000
>> -0xffffffff on isa0
>> unknown7:  at port 0x3bc-0x3bf irq 7 on isa0
>> unknown:  can't assign resources
>> pcm1:  at port 0x530-0x537,0x388-0x38b,0x220-0x233 irq 5 drq
>> 1,0 on
>> isa0
>> unknown8:  at port 0x538-0x53f on isa0
>> unknown9:  at port 0x200-0x207 on isa0
>> unknown:  can't assign resources
>> unknown10:  at port 0x130-0x13f,0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3,10 drq 7 on
>> isa0
>> unknown:  can't assign resources
>> unknown:  can't assign resources
>> unknown:  can't assign resources
>> unknown:  can't assign resources
>> unknown11:  on isa0
>> 
>> I have looked through the archives with various solutions but none seem to
>> help.  Any suggestions would be great.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> ---
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Sorry to be off-topic, but I'd like to get the team's opinion of the meaning
of the term DMZ.  I've always assumed that this refers to the Internet
Service lan on a triple-homed computer, where the three interfaces are
directed to a) the - hopefully - secure private network, b) the protected
but not fully so IS lan (DMZ) and c) the Internet, where the bad guys are.

However, I keep seeing references which indicate that people see the
Internet as the DMZ.  I can't see that there is anything demilitarized about
the Internet...

So what's the answer?

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Hi!

Was wondering wether FreeBSD supports the AMD Athlon processor. Wasn't able
to find this on your web page.

Thanks!


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On Wed, 10 May 2000, Paul C Ward wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> Was wondering wether FreeBSD supports the AMD Athlon processor. Wasn't able
> to find this on your web page.
> 
It does.

-ac

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>And another thing! Anybody knows what file brings a shell to start with
that
>perticular shell? I want to change sh to bash, permanently. Not just for
the
>moment.

to change to bash permanently i do the following:

	chsh

Change the SHELL to /bin/bash or where ever you installed the binary

NOTE: it requires you to know a bit about 'vi' so i suggest you type 'man
vi' first

Give you couple of hints to get the cursor moving in vi:

	h = left
	j = down
	k = up
	l = right

Rano
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Paul C Ward wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Was wondering wether FreeBSD supports the AMD Athlon processor. Wasn't able
> to find this on your web page.

If everyone that has one of the K7's responds you will be reading for
a week or two. The only quirk I have read about is trying to install
FreeBSD with the "Bios boot virus checking" turned on. They were
getting a symptom similar to not recognizing your keyboard.

Kent

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> Thanks!
> 
> Yours,
> Paul C Ward
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Hi ,

You may have followed my ealier tales of woe concerning

- panic : vinvalbuf: dirty bufs

- mounting old filesystem

I'm still trying to work out how to fix them but meanwhile

I have a new problem.

I re installed  3.4

Now I find my keyboard mapping is all wrong and I can't

find characters such as # | \ , at least not where I'd expect them ;-)

I've given up working at the console, and I'm ssh-ing from another machine for now.

I remember selecting my keyboard during the installation

I obviously got this wrong.

How do I change it retrspectively ?

Dave



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Hi ,



You may have followed my ealier tales of woe concerning



- panic : vinvalbuf: dirty bufs



- mounting old filesystem



I'm still trying to work out how to fix them but meanwhile



I have a new problem.



I re installed  3.4



Now I find my keyboard mapping is all wrong and I can't



find characters such as # | \ , at least not where I'd expect them ;-)



I've given up working at the console, and I'm ssh-ing from another machine for now.



I remember selecting my keyboard during the installation



I obviously got this wrong.



How do I change it retrspectively ?



Dave

 

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Sorry to be replying to my own question, but I realized that I made a
mistake after reading a private reply.

I'm looking for a chat server to install on our machine to provide a
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was thinking of a java based ap. that users could access through their
browser rather than just setting up an IRC server and having them
learn another program. I'm not stuck on java, though, if anyone has
other ideas. Just wondering if anyone else has set up something
similar, and if so, what it was. Thanks again.

-- Matt --


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Subject: Java chat

Hello all,

I want to add a Java-based chat client to our server as part of a
distance learning project. (IRC not wanted, due to the learning
curve) Can anyone recommend a port or point me in another
direction? It doesn't _have_ to be Java, as long as it can function
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Hi,

Please advise, I' ve encountered the following error during a make 

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My PC hardware configuration is:




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I have been trying to get the W2k boot manager to bootstrap into FreeBSD 4.0 
for a long time without success.

I have Win 2k on my first IDE drive, and FreeBSD 4.0 on my 4th IDE drive 
(the 2nd drive is an IDE with Linux, and the secondary master is a CD-ROM). 
Currently I am using the W2k boot manager to load W2k/Linux.

After reading the list archives, I tried a couple of things:

1) I copied /boot/boot0 to C:\bootsect.bsd and pointed C:\boot.ini to 
C:\bootsect.bsd. Since FreeBSD is on a different disk than W2k, I chose this 
solution. When I was installing FreeBSD I opted not to have any boot record 
anywhere, though I had made my FreeBSD slice "bootable" (I guess that means 
it was made a primary partition on my 4th IDE).

When I chose this option from the NT boot manager, it wiped out my NT boot 
manager.

My questions: Whats wrong with this approach?
Should I have installed a boot record on the MBR of IDE disk 4?
Has this recommended process changed from 3.x to 4.x of FreeBSD?
Should I have used "dd" instead of just copying the boot0 file?

2) I reinstalled W2k and FreeBSD, and copied /boot/boot1 to C:\bootsect.bsd 
and repeated the same process. This time the NT boot manager was not 
corrupted, but I got a "Boot Error" message and the system hung.

I have read and followed the instructions in the FAQ for loading FreeBSD 
with NT loaded (similar to the above steps), with no success.

Does anyone have a clue how to boot into FreeBSD 4.0 using W2k loader when 
FreeBSD is on a different disk than NT? And whether I need to install a boot 
record on the MBR of the disk that FreeBSD resides on. Will choosing to 
write a boot record during installation overwrite the MBR of the disk that 
FreeBSD is being installed on or will it overwrite the MBR of the first disk 
that the BIOS reads at boot time?

And lastly how can one make a boot diskette specific to a FreeBSD 
installation? The Linux installation offers a way to do this, does FreeBSD 
too? If there isn't  how can I boot to my FreeBSD installation when my 
experiments with NT loader fails?

Thanks in advance
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On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 09:43:29AM +0200, Dan Larsson wrote:
> I've written a simple script to display usernames with their $HOME as
> root (chrooted). The $HOME variable is extracted with awk and sed.
>
> However as usernames are not all the same lenght the columns (username
> chroot/path ) don't run straight down, that is the chroot/path column
> start depends on how long the username is.
>
> Is there some way I can manipulate the rows so that the second column
> is displayed in an 'orderly' fashion using sh?

Yet another pass through awk can make things a lot more beautiful.
Try something like:

    % your commands here | awk '{ printf "%-8s %s\n", $0; }'

The %-8s format string means print the argument in a string that is
8 characters wide, but left justified.  More elaborate formats are
possible, but that is probably off-topic.

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On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 01:00:44PM +0200, Alexander Langer wrote:
> Thus spake Trevor Johnson (trevor@jpj.net):
> 
> > I don't know how to just remove those parts, but you could use the -m
> > option of tunefs to make 8% more space available, at the cost of speed
> 
> That gives only 80 MB, which will be full in some weeks, too :-(
> 
> > make symlinks to those and move parts of the CVS tree onto them.  For even
> > more fun, you could repartition your hard drive. :-)
> 
> That's what I wanted to avoid :-)

Hehehe, this is so obvious that I'm sure Trevor had guessed, and included it
just to make fun.  However, with the growth rate of the tree and the current
size of that partition.. uhm, sorry, but you'll find yourself doing a lot of
work moving parts here and there.  If repartitioning is not an option, you
could always use some other machine to store the repo and share disks.  That
is, of course, provided that this is not your only box.

Ciao,
Giorgos.


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> ../../pci/if_xl.c:133: miibus_If.h:  No such file or directory

http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/151/2000/5/0/3677364/
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I think I had the "exact" same question in some other mailing list before.
Anyway, try www.freecode.com

There is something called Fruitchat written in PERL

Or if you ever plan to use php3 you should checkout

www.phpwizard.net


On Thu, 11 May 2000, Matt Rohrer wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I want to add a Java-based chat client to our server as part of a
> distance learning project. (IRC not wanted, due to the learning
> curve) Can anyone recommend a port or point me in another
> direction? It doesn't _have_ to be Java, as long as it can function
> through a web browser and has a fairly easy interface.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -- Matt --
> 
> 
> 
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I am running 4.0-stable, but would be willing to test

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> On Wed, 10 May 2000, Christopher T. Griffiths wrote:
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> > I know I saw that someone mentioned that they were in the process or going
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> *** Signal 11

http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/troubleshoot.html#AEN1225
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I know where to find the ISO images, but I wanted to get people's
opinions on which download site would offer the best speed.  I am on a
cable-modem if that affects your recommendations :-)

Thanks for the help,
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>I know where to find the ISO images, but I wanted to get people's
>opinions on which download site would offer the best speed.  I am on a
>cable-modem if that affects your recommendations :-)

It doesn't really matter what's on your end.  My connections are a T3
and the vBNS and ISO downloads are slow for me, too!  What matters is
network bottlenecks and server load.

The things to do are a traceroute to each server which will show you
which is "closer" topologically speaking, and may give some clues to
network capacity en-route, and then try downloading something smaller
than the ISO file from each server and check your ftp thoughput speed.
I found one server to be significantly faster than the others to where
I am when I did this.  Which one it was doesn't matter because the
answer will be different for you.

-Mitch


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The definition I typically use is it's a partially secure zone setup between
two firewalls... typically, the first firewall is between the DMZ and your
ISP/NSP and the second is setup between the DMZ and your internal network.
typical occupants of the DMZ are things like public webservers.

Please note that what you're describing is not a terribly secure system...
if I break into that single box, I'm into your entire network. Two seperate
systems would be a much safer bet, if you can afford it.

On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 10:44:17PM +0200, James A Wilde wrote:
> Sorry to be off-topic, but I'd like to get the team's opinion of the meaning
> of the term DMZ.  I've always assumed that this refers to the Internet
> Service lan on a triple-homed computer, where the three interfaces are
> directed to a) the - hopefully - secure private network, b) the protected
> but not fully so IS lan (DMZ) and c) the Internet, where the bad guys are.
> 
> However, I keep seeing references which indicate that people see the
> Internet as the DMZ.  I can't see that there is anything demilitarized about
> the Internet...
> 
> So what's the answer?
> 
> mvh/regards
> 
> James
> 
> 
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On Wed, 10 May 2000, William Woods wrote:

> I am running 4.0-stable, but would be willing to test

I'm afraid you'll have to upgrade to 5.0 to test my patches - I dont think
they'll work yet on 4.0-S.

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On 10-May-00 Dan Larsson wrote:
> How do I match all non lower characters
> from a string? Evidently the caret (^) sign
> doesn't work:
> echo "#¤%&a/()b=?" | sed -e '/[^[:lower:]]*/s///'
> 
> (returns: a/()b=?)
> (what I want it to return is: ab)
> 
> Any ideas?
 
echo "#%&a/()b=?" | sed -e 's/[^[:lower:]]*//g'

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This might be a stupid question, but is there a way to run a process under
a specified (unused) pid?

It's not really for any good reason, but I'm rather curious, since I know
certain basic services always claim the same pid when you reboot, and I
don't think that's just because they fall into place that way.

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> It's not really for any good reason, but I'm rather curious, since I know
> certain basic services always claim the same pid when you reboot, and I
> don't think that's just because they fall into place that way.

I think it's because they get started in that order -- so init gets
pid 1, the rest get 2, 3, 4, etc... 


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freebsd40# uname -a
FreeBSD freebsd40.nbtel.net 4.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE #0: Mon Mar 20
22:50:22 GMT 2000     root@monster.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC
i386

When trying to do some basic IPSec setup, I get the following when trying
to run the key generation process:

freebsd40# setkey -D
pfkey_open: Protocol not supported

Is IPSec/IPv6 support built into the default kernel install?

Thanks,
Marco



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Thanks, Danny. phpChat looks pretty good.

On Wed, 10 May 2000, Danny wrote:

> I think I had the "exact" same question in some other mailing list before.
> Anyway, try www.freecode.com
> 
> Or if you ever plan to use php3 you should checkout
> 
> www.phpwizard.net


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Well, I am not ready to take that plunge yet...my systems arent super
critical, but critical enough for me to stay with -stable. Anyway, when/if
you need testers for 4.0-stable, let me know.

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On Wed, 10 May 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote:

> On Wed, 10 May 2000, William Woods wrote:
> 
> > I am running 4.0-stable, but would be willing to test
> 
> I'm afraid you'll have to upgrade to 5.0 to test my patches - I dont think
> they'll work yet on 4.0-S.
> 
> Kris
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Hi,
	If you are using a cable modem downloading from a Windoze
machine, you can try using the download accelerator from
www.download.com.  It searches for ftp mirrors and download from
multiple site at the same time.  It actually helps quite a bit on
cable modem, I guess it is because if downloads from multiple sites
at once.

My only wish is if they would just write a download accelerator kinda
thing for FreeBSD as well...  :)



Frankie

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> 
> I know where to find the ISO images, but I wanted to get people's
> opinions on which download site would offer the best speed.  I am on a
> cable-modem if that affects your recommendations :-)
> 
> Thanks for the help,
> Harris
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Howdy,

I was just wandering through the kernel config file for 4.0 and
noticed that pty doesn't have a number associated with it.  Are they
dynamic now?  Or do I still have to have a number if I want more than
the default (16?).

Thanks!

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Darren Wyn Rees wrote:

> 1)  give the Windows machine a simple means to determine
> if the FreeBSD machine is online

...

> For (1) I considered configuring a simple finger client to
> finger a port on the FreeBSD machine which cat-ted a "online"
> or "offline". But I couldnt' find an MSDOS finger client ! 
> I thought a simple shortcut on the Windows desktop that opened
> an MSDOS box would suffice.  Does this sound reasonable ?
> I don't want to force users of the Windows machine to launch
> a large application to find out a tincy little bit of info.

If the users are primarily web users, how about setting their web
browser's start page to a CGI script on the FreeBSD server, which says
either "online" or "offline" (plus some useful links or whatever else
you want), or just give them the URL to that page so they can bookmark
it.  You could probably write a script to bring the link up using a CGI
script too (and stick a link to that on the aforementioned "home" page).
I know a web browser falls under the "large application" category which
you want to avoid, but if they're going to start one anyway...

OTOH, if they're not web users, just ignore me...

> For (2), I'm unsure.  I understand I can use 'set filter'.
> I've read the ppp man pages, and the 'Packet Filtering' section
> (and there was a hint on packet filtering in a sample ppp.conf
> that came with Walnut Creek CD).  I'd like to allow the 
> users of the Windows machines to dial-up by doing something
> very definite.  How do other people solve this one ?

I don't use Windows, but I have a program on the gateway "goonline"
which does what you might expect.  Of course, this requires them to ssh
over to the gateway, which is a simple as "ssh scientia" in unix, but
maybe a bit more effort in Windows than the average l^Huser can stand.

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I'm running 3.3R...
The following script ( a port from tcsh) fails with the error message
if: expression syntax error

#!/bin/csh
#
if ( mv $* ~/tmp ) then
    echo "The files have been moved! To remove them "
    echo "use the 'purge' command "
else
    echo "Something's haywire! Files not moved. "
endif

I can't figure this puppy out! Tia.....

-duke



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I'm doing some pre-PPP config homework ;^)

A week or so ago, I copied the meat of a post to this list into my local
"knowledge-base" -- but I hosed the post, so I don't know who wrote it.

[quote]
It looks to me like you need to take a problem isolation approach to solving
this.  First be sure that your system can talk to the modem.
Add a line like the following to /etc/remote;

    cuaa1c|cua1c:dv=/dev/cuaa1:br#9600:pa=none:

then use tip to see if it works you can drive the session manually:

    $tip cuaa1c
    at
    OK
    atdt555555
    CONNECT 2400
    ~.

If you get this far then you can start working with the ppp program.  Work
through the examples in the GETTING STARTED section of the ppp manual page
to get ppp to work manually.

Once that is working you will have a good idea what changes are necessary
to your configuration detail.  
[unquote]

Point: I did exactly as suggested above, i.e. :

root@root# tip cuaa1c
root@root# unknown host

I doubled checked /etc/remote 10 times and nothing changed ;^) -- no typos;
everything as suggested above. What did I miss or not seeing? Do I have to
tweak /etc/host? Tia....

-duke




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I have a test box that is having problems with su.  If I do something like
su username

and give it the wrong password, it just hangs

buildbox% su mdtancsa
Password:
Sorry


And it just hangs after the sorry.  Any ideas what might be going on ?

3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE #0: Mon Mar  6 20:10:37 EST 2000

	---Mike



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Hello.

The company I work for, The iSpark Group, Inc., uses the FreeBSD logo on 
the product web page, with permission (http://www.billmax.com/). We want to 
include a large version of the same kind of thing on an exhibit booth at a 
trade show. The artists contracting the exhibit art insist on getting a 
large-format file, preferably in .eps format. Do you have anything like 
that? or are we going to have to scan a bumper sticker? 

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Hi all,
	I'm trying to get SecuRemote (Checkpoint FW-1) encryption
working thru my FreeBSD 2.2.8 User PPP router. I was able to get
it to pass the ISAKMP stuff through but I think ppp doesn't know
what to do with the IPSEC (ip proto 50) traffic.


	Any ideas? Would ppp from 3.4 or 4.0 be better able
to handle this? I've been kind of looking for an excuse to
upgrade.

Thanks,
Paul.

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>    i want become a reseller for domain registertion from
>     my home town,so kindly give me the deatils of and tell
>     how can i start reisteration
>     waiting for u r mail

Why are you asking this on a FreeBSD mailing list?

You'd probably have more luck asking someone at InterNIC or ICANN. (Hint:
http://www.icann.org/registrars/accreditation.htm)

--Dan

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Hi,

I remember a mate who runs linux saying he could compile into his kernel so
that if the modem was given the signal to drop by the ISP it would like
ignore it and stay connected.

Does such a thing exist with the FreeBSD kernel or some configuration?

Thanks,
Andy.



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On 10-May-00 Mark Johnston wrote:
> I'm having trouble installing 4.0-RELEASE - I get through the bootup and
> kernel setup, but the "Probing..." screen hangs for about 10-15 minutes.
> The installation screen comes up after that, but when I try to start
> setup,
> it tells me that no hard drives are found.  The kernel options I have
> enabled are:
> 
>     port    irq
> ata0    0x1f0    14
> ata1    0x170    15
> fdc0    0x3f0    6
> ed0    0x300    9
> ppc0        7
> sio0    0x3f8    4
> sio1    0x2f8    3
> atkbd0        1
> sc0
> npx0    0xf0    13
> 
> Everything else is disabled.  I'm using a 10.1gb Western Digital IDE
> drive on a fairly old system (P166, 32MB ram, crap motherboard), and I
> don't have EZ-BIOS (the large drive BIOS support software, intended
> mainly for Windows) installed.  The HD is the primary master, and an
> ATAPI CD-ROM is the secondary master.  The debug console shows some
> errors about timeouts waiting to send commands to ata0-master and read
> timeouts on ad0 - it also says that the device has disappeared.
> 
> This system has run Win95 and Linux, and both found the hard drive
> without any trouble - I've also booted the OpenBSD install floppy,
> which found the HD OK.  Where am I going wrong?

Sorry, not an answer, just a "me too" here.

I was trying to install FreeBSD 4.0 from CD on a friend's machine and saw
pretty much the same behavior.  Try as we might, we just could not figure
out a workaround.  Baffling, really.

His setup is almost identical to yours: older box, Award BIOS, Cyrix 686,
large drive as primary master, CD-ROM as secondary master.  The hangs,
etc., all the same as yours.

It was really quite embarrassing after having raved to him about how great
FreeBSD is.  I ended up giving him my Linux 6.0 CDs and wishing him luck. 
:-)

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Hi, I am running a FreeBSD gateway and firewall.  Currently, the
above-referenced ports are open and I wanted to close it.  Can anyone show
me how to close port 25 (SMTP) and 111 (sunrpc)?   By the way, what is port
111 anyway?  I have messaged out SMTP in the file /etc/inetd.conf, but it's
still open when i'm running nmap.  Any reasons why?

Thanks,





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>Sorry to be off-topic, but I'd like to get the team's opinion of the
meaning
>of the term DMZ.  I've always assumed that this refers to the Internet
>Service lan on a triple-homed computer, where the three interfaces are
>directed to a) the - hopefully - secure private network, b) the protected
>but not fully so IS lan (DMZ) and c) the Internet, where the bad guys are.
>
>However, I keep seeing references which indicate that people see the
>Internet as the DMZ.  I can't see that there is anything demilitarized
about
>the Internet...


The definition given on www.whatis.com,

    "In computer networks, a DMZ (demilitarized zone) is a
    computer host or small network inserted as a 'neutral zone'
    between a company's private network and the outside
    public network...."

describes what is more accurately defined as a 'bastion host'...

A bastion host is a firewall/proxy server on its own network between two
routers. The outside network and the inside network can both talk to the
bastion host, but can't talk to each other. And the bastion host cannot
*initiate* connections to the inside network.

--Dan

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On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 02:27:09AM +0100, Andy Coates wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I remember a mate who runs linux saying he could compile into his kernel so
> that if the modem was given the signal to drop by the ISP it would like
> ignore it and stay connected.

Really? How does it deal with the fact the ISP will have dropped
carrier? Sounds like he's either got his facts wrong or he's talking
about something else altogether.

> Does such a thing exist with the FreeBSD kernel or some configuration?

There's the PPP timeout parameter, but that deals with local side
configuration to stop the modem from hanging up when there's been no
activity for a given number of seconds.
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On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 06:30:22PM -0700, Alan Chan wrote:
> Hi, I am running a FreeBSD gateway and firewall.  Currently, the
> above-referenced ports are open and I wanted to close it.  Can anyone show
> me how to close port 25 (SMTP) and 111 (sunrpc)?   By the way, what is port
> 111 anyway?  I have messaged out SMTP in the file /etc/inetd.conf, but it's
> still open when i'm running nmap.  Any reasons why?

sendmail keeps port 25 open, and portmap keeps 111. Use sockstat(1)
for any unidentifiable ports.
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Greetings,

I have a newly installed FreeBSD V4.0-RELEASE box that I'm using as a
simple packet filter with network address translation. The machine is a
486SX with 16Mb of ram, 1Gb of disk space, and two 3Com ethernet
interfaces. I have set up a swap partition of 37Mb. Granted, it's a
dinosaur, but it's doing the job just fine.

However, I have one problem. Whenever I ssh into this machine, or try to
ssh from this machine out to another machine, ssh just keeps consuming
memory until all the swap space is exhausted, at which time the ssh
process is killed. The gateway stays up, and everything else works fine - I
only have a problem when I try to use ssh (or access through sshd).

I've made a log of one such outbound session - I'm trying to ssh from my
gateway to another machine on my subnet. Here is the debug output:

bash# ssh -v 192.168.0.2
SSH Version OpenSSH-1.2.2, protocol version 1.5.
Compiled with SSL.
debug: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
debug: ssh_connect: getuid 0 geteuid 0 anon 0
debug: Connecting to 192.168.0.2 [192.168.0.2] port 22.
debug: Allocated local port 1021.
debug: Connection established.
debug: Remote protocol version 1.5, remote software version 1.2.27
debug: Waiting for server public key.
debug: Received server public key (768 bits) and host key (1024 bits).
debug: Host '192.168.0.2' is known and matches the host key.

/* We've taken about 3 seconds to get to this point, but now the process
just sits until I start getting "no swap space messages" on the gateway
console */

Killed

As I said, I know this machine is a lightweight, but I think it's
suitable for the job (previously, it had been running in the same capacity
under FreeBSD 2.2.5 for about a year).

I also don't believe that increasing the swap space is the answer. During
normal operation, if I check "top", I rarely see the free memory drop
below 7 Megs. I almost never see swap space being used, either. Right now,
the machine is running only natd, sshd, cron, sh, getty, ident2, portmap,
and adjkerntz. The remaining 44+ Mb of free memory should certainly be
enough to run an ssh session. Besides, if I did add more swap, I think it
would just get used up, too.

I've searched through the handbook, mail archives, and newsgroup archives,
and man pages but I can't find any mention of this particular problem.
There are tales of swap space being exhausted while using a large program
like Netscape, but no mention of ssh.

If anyone has some suggestions for how to resolve this problem, it would
most appreciated. Also, please reply directly to me at

	earlyjp@cs.purdue.edu

as I am not on the mailing list right now. Thanks for your assistance.

Jim Early



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* Jonathan Chen  [000510 19:15] wrote:
> On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 02:27:09AM +0100, Andy Coates wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I remember a mate who runs linux saying he could compile into his kernel so
> > that if the modem was given the signal to drop by the ISP it would like
> > ignore it and stay connected.
> 
> Really? How does it deal with the fact the ISP will have dropped
> carrier? Sounds like he's either got his facts wrong or he's talking
> about something else altogether.

He most likely is talking about the +++ATH0 problem with most newer
modems, there's a string to fix it that you can use as part of your
AT string to init the modem.  Unfortunatly I don't remeber the
string offhand, it may be ATS2=255, but I'm unsure.

Weird that it'd wind up in the Linux kernel. :)

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On 10 May 2000 00:36:51 -0400, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote:

>Hi,
>
>my freebsd box makes every time I try to connect (telnet) to a host in my
>private LAN a lookup to the nameserver (nameserver of my ISP). I configured
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>file.

Do you know what its trying to look up ?  Either do a tcpdump, or run a
copy of bind locally, adjust your /etc/resolv.conf and issue a
ndc querylog
and watch /var/log/daemon
to see what its looking up.


>Is there a possibility to switch off the IPv6 support?

Yes, take it out of your kernel config.

	---Mike
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Hi,

I have a PentiumII running FreeBSD 4.0 with a 3Com nic installed. 

It ran fine with 20 days of uptime, when suddenly the machine was not available on the network any longer. Then a few hours later it was pingable again, then, later it wasn't. Regardless of whether the I could ping other machines from this one, I was always able to ping 127.0.0.1 and 192.168.1.4, its own IP address (one of our sysadmins at work suggested I try this). 

I've tried swapping out the cables, power-cycling the machine, and the hub, all to no avail. Then, the next day, I again swapped the cable, power-cycled the machine, and *viola*, I can ping other machines on the internal network, but no machines outside...until a little later, when all was back to normal.

Since I hadn't done anything to the machine's configuration, I'm assuming that this is simply a bad NIC, but...before I replace it or spend time swapping a NIC out of another machine & testing that hypothesis (time is a little more scarce than money right now), I thought I'd ask some people with more networking experience than I have...

So, what do you think? Bad NIC or some buggy problem with ifcongig or the drivers or something??

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alfred Perlstein" 
To: "Jonathan Chen" 
Cc: "Andy Coates" ; 
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 3:57 AM
Subject: Re: Keeping the modem from dropping


> * Jonathan Chen  [000510 19:15] wrote:
> > On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 02:27:09AM +0100, Andy Coates wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I remember a mate who runs linux saying he could compile into his
kernel so
> > > that if the modem was given the signal to drop by the ISP it would
like
> > > ignore it and stay connected.
> >
> > Really? How does it deal with the fact the ISP will have dropped
> > carrier? Sounds like he's either got his facts wrong or he's talking
> > about something else altogether.

Yeah i couldn't figure that out, but the ISP banned his number because he
was on too long :-)

> He most likely is talking about the +++ATH0 problem with most newer
> modems, there's a string to fix it that you can use as part of your
> AT string to init the modem.  Unfortunatly I don't remeber the
> string offhand, it may be ATS2=255, but I'm unsure.
>
> Weird that it'd wind up in the Linux kernel. :)

Isn't pppd part of the kernel in some respect? Maybe it was that, I can't
exactly remember what he said.

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Today I installed acmemail (web-based mailreader) on a FreeBSD 3.4-S
system.  The instructions given were for how to set it up on a RedHat 6.1
box.  I did manage to get everything installed and working except for one
thing:  The instructions call for using tmpwatch in the equivalent of
/etc/daily.local to remove temporary files:

                    /-- number of hours since file was last accessed
 /usr/sbin/tmpwatch 20 /home/httpd/html/mime-tmp                           
 /usr/sbin/tmpwatch 20 /home/httpd/cgi-bin/acme/dope
			\-- path of files to check

(Apologies to those without fixed-width fonts)

So here's my question.  Is there a FreeBSD equivalent to the RedHat
tmpwatch command, or a port that will accomplish the above?  Here's the
man page for tmpwatch:

http://nodevice.com/sections/ManIndex/man1816.html

Please cc: me in any replies.  Thanks in advance for any assistance you
may have.

-- 
Bob 
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Is there a Bsd equivalent to the following Sys V commands:

lp -H hold filename
lp -i requestid -H resume

other than using the `at' command to schedule the job? Tia.....

-duke



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Mike Tancsa wrote to questions@FreeBSD.ORG:

> 
> I have a test box that is having problems with su.  If I do something like
> su username
>
> and give it the wrong password, it just hangs
> 
> buildbox% su mdtancsa
> Password:
> Sorry
> 
> 
> And it just hangs after the sorry.  Any ideas what might be going on ?
> 
> 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE #0: Mon Mar  6 20:10:37 EST 2000
> 
> 	---Mike

I don't see this behaviour on either of my 3.4 machines (one machine was
updated last week.  The other is running from a 2 m.o. cvsup), using
descrypt on one.

Define "hangs"... I.e., if this is on a local vty, can you switch to
another?  I assume ^C/^Z don't knock it out?  Does it hang the whole box
(can you ping/login to the machine?).  Or is su the only process that's
hanging?  Can you do a ps -axl?  Is the box using remote passwords?  

Have you changed your crypt libs around lately?  Are all the links as they
should be?  Modtimes sufficiently old?

Occasionally, on virtual terminals, when a program exits on failure
(usually after it dumps core), I don't get a prompt back, and the term
wreaks havoc with the keyboard.  Usually I just kill the controlling shell
and getty cleans up the mess :-)

Sorry this isn't a hard fast answer, but perhaps my questions will spark
something for you :-)

- Ryan

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bela@nivek.org pointed out that find will do it:

find /home/httpd/html/mime-tmp -amin 1200 -delete                                                                                     
find /home/httpd/cgi-bin/acme/dope -amin 1200 -delete

On Wed, 10 May 2000, Bob K wrote:

> Today I installed acmemail (web-based mailreader) on a FreeBSD 3.4-S
> system.  The instructions given were for how to set it up on a RedHat 6.1
> box.  I did manage to get everything installed and working except for one
> thing:  The instructions call for using tmpwatch in the equivalent of
> /etc/daily.local to remove temporary files:
> 
>                     /-- number of hours since file was last accessed
>  /usr/sbin/tmpwatch 20 /home/httpd/html/mime-tmp                           
>  /usr/sbin/tmpwatch 20 /home/httpd/cgi-bin/acme/dope
> 			\-- path of files to check
> 
> (Apologies to those without fixed-width fonts)
> 
> So here's my question.  Is there a FreeBSD equivalent to the RedHat
> tmpwatch command, or a port that will accomplish the above?  Here's the
> man page for tmpwatch:
> 
> http://nodevice.com/sections/ManIndex/man1816.html
> 
> Please cc: me in any replies.  Thanks in advance for any assistance you
> may have.
> 
> 

-- 
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I really can't agree that a 'bastion host' or any host is a DMZ.

The term was first used (to the best of my knowledge) back when NASA
set up the first "NAP", the Federal Internet Exchange or FIX. The
FIXes connected the four existing Internet national back about a
decade ago. These were the old NSFnet, MILnet, NASA Science Internet
(NSI), and the Energy Sciences Network (ESnet).

When Milo Medin built the first FIX (an Ethernet) to replace the one
mail bridges, he used military terms to describe its functions and
used the term De-Militarized Zone) DMZ for the neutral networks segments.

Later, when the NSF regional nets got started, the term was applied to
the physical links between the routers of the regionals and the
national backbones. Once again, these were typically Ethernet. They
usually involved only two routers, though, in some cases there were
three as the connection often occurred at facilities that had
connections to both nets. The result was a site router, and a router
from each of the national nets.

The term also became the one used to describe the link between an ISP
and a customer, when the customer ran its own network. It's
appropriate as the link belongs to neither the ISP or the
customer. It's a DMZ.

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Wound anyone be aware of accounting application comparable
with Quickbooks / MYOB / Attache thats available for FreeBSD ??



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On Wed, 10 May 2000, Doug Young wrote:

> Wound anyone be aware of accounting application comparable
> with Quickbooks / MYOB / Attache thats available for FreeBSD ??

This question came across the list a few weeks ago. There is a port,
but I can't remember its name. A search of the archives should reveal
it. http://freebsd.org/search/


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On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 06:07:34PM -0600, Duke Normandin wrote:
> I'm running 3.3R...
> The following script ( a port from tcsh) fails with the error message
> if: expression syntax error
> 
> #!/bin/csh
> #
> if ( mv $* ~/tmp ) then
>     echo "The files have been moved! To remove them "
>     echo "use the 'purge' command "
> else
>     echo "Something's haywire! Files not moved. "
> endif
> 
> I can't figure this puppy out! Tia.....
> 
> -duke

First...

DO NOT USE CSH FOR SCRIPTS. Use /bin/sh. (And I use tcsh for my
interactive shells, wouldn't dream of writing scripts in it.)

  #!/bin/sh
  #
  if mv $* ~/tmp; then
      echo "The files have been moved! To remove them "
      echo "use the 'purge' command "
  else
      echo "Something's haywire! Files not moved. "
  fi

Second, if some evil force is compelling you to use csh, RTFM, csh(1),

   Expressions
     Several of the builtin commands (to be described later) take expressions,
     in which the operators are similar to those of C, with the same prece-
     dence.  These expressions appear in the @, exit, if, and while commands.
     .
     .
     .
     Also available in expressions as primitive operands are command execu-
     tions enclosed in `{' and `}'...

So, if you were actually to use csh, you want,

  #!/bin/csh
  #
  if { mv $* ~/tmp } then
      echo "The files have been moved! To remove them "
      echo "use the 'purge' command "
  else
      echo "Something's haywire! Files not moved. "
  endif


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On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 05:22:19PM -0500, Conrad Sabatier wrote:
> I must have missed something.  :-)  I'm suddenly seeing this term used a
> lot in these lists, but don't recall how or when it got started.  I have a
> fairly good idea what it *means*, but not exactly what it *stands for*.
> 

Microsoft Foundation Classes ;-)

Actually it's Merged From Current

HTH

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At 09:30 PM 5/10/2000 -0600, Ryan Thompson wrote:
>Mike Tancsa wrote to questions@FreeBSD.ORG:
>
> >
> > I have a test box that is having problems with su.  If I do something like
> > su username
> >
> > and give it the wrong password, it just hangs
> >
> > buildbox% su mdtancsa
> > Password:
> > Sorry
> >
> >
> > And it just hangs after the sorry.  Any ideas what might be going on ?
> >
> > 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE #0: Mon Mar  6 20:10:37 EST 2000
> >
> >       ---Mike
>
>I don't see this behaviour on either of my 3.4 machines (one machine was
>updated last week.  The other is running from a 2 m.o. cvsup), using
>descrypt on one.

... Yeah, I dont on the dozen or so other boxes of mine,  just this one. 
Its been up for 64 days and its been fine up until now.


>Define "hangs"... I.e., if this is on a local vty, can you switch to
>another?  I assume ^C/^Z don't knock it out?


Hangs in that su goes no farther.  I can hit CTRL+C and stop the process, 
but thats it. I can su to myself (e.g. uid 2000 can su to uid 2000) but no 
others including root... To root, if I give it the correct password, it 
just hangs.  If I su to another non priv'd account, same deal. It just hangs.


>  Does it hang the whole box
>(can you ping/login to the machine?).  Or is su the only process that's
>hanging?  Can you do a ps -axl?  Is the box using remote passwords?

Only su

  UID   PID  PPID CPU PRI NI   VSZ  RSS WCHAN  STAT  TT       TIME COMMAND
  1001 65053 65051   0  18  0  1372 1012 pause  Is    p4    0:00.07 -tcsh 
(tcsh)
     0 65062 65053 255   4 -2  1020  648 ttywri I<+   p4    0:00.01 su


>Have you changed your crypt libs around lately?  Are all the links as they
>should be?  Modtimes sufficiently old?

No, nothing changed that I am aware of.

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On 10 May 2000 14:29:19 -0400, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote:

>	Assuming I have the kernel configured properly, and lines something
>similar to this in /etc/fstab:
>
>/dev/da1s1e             /home           ufs     rw              2      
>2
>/dev/da1s1f             /mail           ufs     rw              2      
>2

/dev/da1s1f             /mail           ufs     rw,userquota              2



>
>	What would I need to do, both to /etc/fstab, and to /mail to enforce a

For /var/mail there are two things you need to do. One, you need to use a
local mailer that honours quotas.  Something like procmail is a good
replacement

Mlocal,         P=/usr/local/bin/procmail, F=lsDFMAw5:/|@qSPfhn9P, S=10/30,
R=20/40,
                T=DNS/RFC822/X-Unix,
                A=procmail -Y -a $h -d $u

Then 
edquota sampleuser
gets you

Quotas for user sampleuser:
/var/mail: blocks in use: 0, limits (soft = 10, hard = 20)
        inodes in use: 0, limits (soft = 0, hard = 0)


WOuld mean that the user can permanently store 10M of data and can
periodically go above to upto 20. But once above 10, they have to bop it
down below 10 in 7 days.


>40Meg user quota, allowing a single user to reach an absolute maximum of
>ten megabytes? 

Sorry, you want the user to have 40M total, or 10M total ? Or do you mean
you dont want the whole group getting more than 40M ?

	---Mike
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On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 07:07:13AM -0700, Jim wrote:
> I am running FBSD 3.4R and Netscape 4.72.
> 
> I am having trouble with the small fonts, and the lack of fonts.
> I have adjusted the setting in the app, but this doesn't always help.
> 
> Can someone give me a quick and painless way to get more fonts on my
> system that netscape can use?
> 

  # cd /usr/ports/www/mozilla-fonts
  # make install

> I am not very familiar with how fonts work on FBSD and reading the online
> docs is a real pain.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Jim
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At 06:07 PM 5/10/00 -0600, Duke Normandin wrote:
>I'm running 3.3R...
>The following script ( a port from tcsh) fails with the error message
>if: expression syntax error
>
>#!/bin/csh
>#
>if ( mv $* ~/tmp ) then
>     echo "The files have been moved! To remove them "
>     echo "use the 'purge' command "
>else
>     echo "Something's haywire! Files not moved. "
>endif


Well...Im not too familiar with csh, but wouldn't the fact that there is a 
misplacement of punctuation here?

#!/bin/csh

if (mv $* ~/tmp); then  # notice the ;
     echo "blah"
else
     echo "another blah"
fi                               #  endif vs fi...not sure.

Im not sure if csh uses endif if fi.  Probably endif (realizing that csh is 
a bit awkward from what Im use to)

Jim

>I can't figure this puppy out! Tia.....
>
>-duke
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>At 17.47 10.05.00 +1000, Richard Grace wrote:
> > > I've written a simple script to display usernames
> > > with their $HOME as root (chrooted). The $HOME variable
> > > is extracted with awk and sed.
> > >
> > > However as usernames are not all the same lenght
> > > the columns (username     chroot/path ) don't run
> > > straight down, that is the chroot/path column start
> > > depends on how long the username is.
> > >
> > > Is there some way I can manipulate the rows so that
> > > the second column is displayed in an 'orderly' fashion
> > > using sh?
> >
> >Try echoing a tab character (^I) in between.
>
>Is there a difference of ^| to echo -e "\t" (using [ba]sh) or echo "\t"
>using non-sh?
>I've never seen this before.
>
>Jim
>
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> >
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At 01:29 AM 5/11/00 -0400, Jim Conner wrote:

>>At 17.47 10.05.00 +1000, Richard Grace wrote:
>> > > I've written a simple script to display usernames
>> > > with their $HOME as root (chrooted). The $HOME variable
>> > > is extracted with awk and sed.
>> > >
>> > > However as usernames are not all the same lenght
>> > > the columns (username     chroot/path ) don't run
>> > > straight down, that is the chroot/path column start
>> > > depends on how long the username is.
>> > >
>> > > Is there some way I can manipulate the rows so that
>> > > the second column is displayed in an 'orderly' fashion
>> > > using sh?
>> >
>> >Try echoing a tab character (^I) in between.
>>
>>Is there a difference of ^| to echo -e "\t" (using [ba]sh) or echo "\t"
>>using non-sh?
>>I've never seen this before.
>>
>>Jim

One more thing that was briefly touched on was the use of printf.  I think 
that may work better for you depending on what you want.  In my opinion, 
however, echo -e "\t" || non-sh echo "\t" is easier and works very well.

Jim

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Subject: Install network setup
From: Harry Putnam 
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Trying BSD for the first time in a year or so, a fresh install of
release 4.  I've attempted a network ftp install but can't get the
nertwork setup with the tools provided at install.

The machine has two nics installed

The install routine offers two sets of drivers, I've tried both.  The
messages on the emergecny terminal show "network unreachable" after
plugging in the numbers.  

This machine is hooked to a dsl line.  Its the simple ethernet kind.

Once the approproiate numbers are inserted, including the gateway
address.  The network doesn't come up.  Looking through the boot
messages, it seems that the OS is finding the cards and reports them
both on irq 9.  I scribbled down some  system messages but can't
figure out what I wrote now.

Looks like one is found as an ed0 device, the other as dc0, both are
pci nics.  Sorry I didn't get better info, but will write it to a file
when I next boot FreeBSD.

I haven't been able to get X up either so things are a little stark
when booted.  Neither of the setup tools works at all for me.  Just
one of those nonesense circle jerks where you keep coming up with the
same useless dialog boxes. 

I'm used to the way "ifconfig" displays what is setup on linux boxes,
but the BSD ifconfig seems only for setting up things not viewing them
or helping analyize. 

What is a handy way to pass captured info out of the OS with no
network up? I have linux on this same machine but the filesystems
don't see each other.  Maybe a skeleton install of winXX would provide
a place to send files etc, so they can be accesss by an the online linux
machine.

I'm able to ping "localhost" and telnet "localhost" but can't get to
any of the addresses I've given to the nics.

So far I've supplied an  FQDN
An IP address that is the right one for my "static" DSL address.
The proper Gateway address and legitimate DNS servers.

All working only moments before on the same box with linux booted.

As a setup tool the install "network" stuff seems a bit sparse.  And
provides no way to get to a usable shell.  Once the install is
complete, of course shells are available but still hard to tell what
to do with ifconfig or route when the numbers don't work.

Are there other tools, maybe in "packages" directory that will make
this a little easier?   So far I can't get to packages by ftp anyway,
but am currently downloading many of them with linux.



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>
> On 10-May-00 Mark Johnston wrote:
> > I'm having trouble installing 4.0-RELEASE - I get through the bootup and
> > kernel setup, but the "Probing..." screen hangs for about 10-15 minutes.
> > The installation screen comes up after that, but when I try to start
> > setup,
> > it tells me that no hard drives are found.  The kernel options I have
> > enabled are:
(long info cut)
> > The debug console shows some
> > errors about timeouts waiting to send commands to ata0-master and read
> > timeouts on ad0 - it also says that the device has disappeared.
> >
> > This system has run Win95 and Linux, and both found the hard drive
> > without any trouble - I've also booted the OpenBSD install floppy,
> > which found the HD OK.  Where am I going wrong?
>
> Sorry, not an answer, just a "me too" here.
>
> I was trying to install FreeBSD 4.0 from CD on a friend's machine and saw
> pretty much the same behavior.  Try as we might, we just could not figure
> out a workaround.  Baffling, really.
>

Hmm.. do you know what kind of onboard IDE he has?  I've done some checking
around, trying to figure out the problem, and noticed that my IDE
controller - a SiS 5513 - was shown in OpenBSD's dev logs as having had its
support "recently fixed".  I'm not sure if this means something in terms of
FreeBSD's support for it, but I also noticed that while booting Linux, the
system says "not 100% native mode, DMA disabled."  I'm thinking that FBSD
may not know that DMA may cause problems and might use it anyway - I'm going
to make my BIOS settings really conservative, maybe rearrange my drives or
disconnect the CD-ROM.  I think it's safe to rule out oft-blamed Cyrix in
the problem - I'm using an Intel P166.

If you happen to have a spare IDE controller card, I'd be much obliged if
you could try booting your friend's system with the drives on it under the
FreeBSD boot disk.  I may also try to pick up a cheap card later this week -
in any case, I'll summarize to the list and send in a bug report if I come
up with a working solution.

Mark



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On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 12:38:11AM -0500, Mark Johnston wrote:
> From: "Conrad Sabatier" 
> To: "Mark Johnston" 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 8:26 PM
> 
> 
> >
> > On 10-May-00 Mark Johnston wrote:
> > > I'm having trouble installing 4.0-RELEASE - I get through the bootup and
> > > kernel setup, but the "Probing..." screen hangs for about 10-15 minutes.
> > > The installation screen comes up after that, but when I try to start
> > > setup,
> > > it tells me that no hard drives are found.  The kernel options I have
> > > enabled are:
> (long info cut)
> > > The debug console shows some
> > > errors about timeouts waiting to send commands to ata0-master and read
> > > timeouts on ad0 - it also says that the device has disappeared.
> > >
> > > This system has run Win95 and Linux, and both found the hard drive
> > > without any trouble - I've also booted the OpenBSD install floppy,
> > > which found the HD OK.  Where am I going wrong?
> >
> > Sorry, not an answer, just a "me too" here.
> >
> > I was trying to install FreeBSD 4.0 from CD on a friend's machine and saw
> > pretty much the same behavior.  Try as we might, we just could not figure
> > out a workaround.  Baffling, really.
> >
> 
> Hmm.. do you know what kind of onboard IDE he has?  I've done some checking
> around, trying to figure out the problem, and noticed that my IDE
> controller - a SiS 5513 - was shown in OpenBSD's dev logs as having had its
> support "recently fixed".  I'm not sure if this means something in terms of
> FreeBSD's support for it, but I also noticed that while booting Linux, the
> system says "not 100% native mode, DMA disabled."  I'm thinking that FBSD
> may not know that DMA may cause problems and might use it anyway - I'm going
> to make my BIOS settings really conservative, maybe rearrange my drives or
> disconnect the CD-ROM.  I think it's safe to rule out oft-blamed Cyrix in
> the problem - I'm using an Intel P166.
> 

I have got that controller too. And no, it is not working quite as well as
it should be under 4.0. (While it works fine under 3.4)
(Something that might be related to the problem is that FBSD (mis)detects it
as a SiS 5591 controller. I think SiS reused the chip-id from the 5513 when
they made the 5591 but I don't know if they are actually 100% compatible.)

I have got it working fine but that involved using the 'wd' driver instead
of the default new 'ata' driver. (And a small hack in the source to persuade
it not to try to use UDMA.)

I did get it to work with the 'ata' driver too by rearranging the disks a bit
but that meant no DMA on my big, fast disk :-(
A tip that might (or might not) work. Put some disk that is *not* UDMA
capable as primary master, and the CDROM on the secondary controller.
(something like that worked for me.)

(No, I haven't sent in a PR yet. I intend to do so (with a more detailed bug
report) RSN.)




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Hi there,

I've been having no end of troubles installing FreeBSD 3.1
(that's what I've got on CD).
The install seems to either panic and / or reboot during the
newfs command to set up the hard drive's file system.

Any Ideas?

Thanks
Mike.

Details follow:

My System:
 Celeron 466
 Award BIOS
 32MB RAM
generic S3 video card (AGP)
 10 Gig Western Digital HD [Master for controller 0]
 ATAPI CD-ROM / DVD player (Pioneer) [Slave for controller 0]
Controller 1 is empty
3.5" floppy

Details on my install:

BIOS setup:
- I set the hd to use Normal (C/H/S: 19885/16/63)(because that
seems the specs that it sees when the kernal is configured). the
CD-Rom is set to auto.
- I've tried all the obvious hard drive related settings, and tried them
both enabled and disabled to no avail. This setup i've got them in their
default
state.
-I've set the BIOS so that it boots to CD-ROM.

FreeBSD 3.1 Install
1. I start screen in Visual Mode (as advised by the Walnut Creek
install instructions)
2. Configure Kernel: I delete all the SCSI, tape backup, CDROM, network
card,
and ps2 mouse drivers from the list. I Quit and agree to save my settings
3. some config stuff flashes by (detailed below) and I'm left at the
sysInstall Main Menu.
The config stuff seems to indicate that all my hardware is recognized.
Everything seems
fine except maybe:
a) My Hard Drive shows up with the correct Cyllinder/Head/Sector info, but
the
size is off. Instead of 10,000+ MB, only 9787MB are indicated. Is this a
problem?
b) My CD-Rom shows up fine, except the transfer rate is listed as 0kb/sec.
I'm
guessing this info is just for me?
4. I select "Novice" from the sysinstall menu (as advised by the WC install
notes).
5. I select OK for the message that tells me I'll have to partition my disk
6. Because the geometry is different here (it's listed at the top of the
screen as
c/h/s = 1247/255/63), I change it to match my bios settings.
7. In the disk slice screen, I select All and allow for a 'cooperative
partition'
which separates the first 63 sectors from the main partition.
8. I set the second slice to be bootable and Quit.
9. A screen pops up asking what type of boot manager I want. I choose to
have
no boot manager (a standard MBR).
10. After dismissing the message dialog, I'm at the partition screen and
accept the
option A, which sets up defaults ( '/' with 32MB, swap with 69MB, '/var'
with 30MB,
and '/usr' with the rest at 9655MB). I Quit to save.
11. Now I get to choose the type of install. I select 'Minimal', as I'm just
trying to
get the thing to work. I'll choose a more heavy duty select later, after
I've managed
to get one successful install. Then I Exit.
12. I choose CDRom as the source for the install.
13. I agree to the install (the last "Are you sure?" message) and the system
starts
to set up the file system (I see some "newfs -b 8192 -f 1024"s flash accross
the
screen.
14. With an Alt-F2, I can look at some of the output:
[ a few debug statements about scanning for slices ]
/dev/rwd0s1a: XXX sectors... 32MB  [appears to set up the root partition
fine, I think.]
[there's a line about superblock backups at 32]
DEBUG: MakeDev: Unknown major / minor for devtype
[???? what's this one?]
[ a few lines of /mnt/dev... (about 20+?)]
0 blocks
Warning 320 sectors in last cyllinder unallocated
/mnt/dev/rwd0s1f: XXXX sectors... 9655MB
[ there didn't appear to be any mention of the other partitions...
unless they were hidden in the long list of "/mnt/dev/..."s]
[ then it talks about superblock backups and lists about 40 lines
of 6-7 digit numbers (sectors?)]
then it reboots!

If I leave the CD in, I go back to the install.
If I take the CD out, I get:
>FreeBSD i386 BOOT
Default: 0: wd(0,a)/kernel
boot:
No /kernel

Other things I have tried:
- Tried using 2 other hard drives: a Maxtor 4Gig, and a
Maxtor 400Mb; fails.
- Tried using the machine to install Windows 98 (on the
4gig drive); works.
Tried Linux on all three drives; fails.


After all that, any ideas?
Any other info needed?

Thanks,
Mike



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Hey there,

portmap_enable="NO"
sendmail_enable="NO"

Just add those two lines to your /etc/rc.conf and that will stop RPC and
sendmail from starting at boot time.  Then, to stop them without
rebooting, simply kill(1) the running processes.

Cheers,
Marc

On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 06:30:22PM -0700, Alan Chan wrote:
> Hi, I am running a FreeBSD gateway and firewall.  Currently, the
> above-referenced ports are open and I wanted to close it.  Can anyone show
> me how to close port 25 (SMTP) and 111 (sunrpc)?   By the way, what is port
> 111 anyway?  I have messaged out SMTP in the file /etc/inetd.conf, but it's
> still open when i'm running nmap.  Any reasons why?
> 
> Thanks,
> 

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While playing a little bit with C, i realized that even small C programs
eat too much memory.
May you, kindly, explaim me what is happenning?  How can i optimize it?
I think here is eating too much memory.

a.c listing....

#include 
#include 
#include 

enum { T_SLICE = 10000 };

int
main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
        unsigned int c;
        unsigned int d;
        unsigned int v;

        if (!*++argv) {
                printf("usage: %s <1/100 seconds>\n", *--argv);
                fflush(stdout);
                return 1;
        }
        v = atoi(*argv);
        c = 0x7c2f2d5c;
        d = 0x7c5c2d2f;

        printf("Useless program (by grios): ...%c", c);

        fclose(stdin);
        fclose(stderr);

        for (;;) {
                c = c << 8 | c >> 24;
                printf("\b%c", c);
                fflush(stdout);
                usleep(v * T_SLICE);
        }
        return 0;
}

---end listing a.c

How did i compiled: cc -ansi -pedantic -Wall -s a.c
after running it, here is what i got:
$ ps aux | grep a.out
grios  90285  0.0  0.4   816  448  p1  SN+   3:42AM   0:00.16 ./a.out 1

It resident size is about 816K and is resident around 448!
Why such a small program eats so much memory?

Thank you for your time and cooperation.



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On 10 May 2000 22:20:41 -0700  Harry Putnam wrote:
 +------------------
 | Trying BSD for the first time in a year or so, a fresh install of
 | release 4.  I've attempted a network ftp install but can't get the
 | nertwork setup with the tools provided at install.
 | 
 | Are there other tools, maybe in "packages" directory that will make
 | this a little easier?   So far I can't get to packages by ftp anyway,
 | but am currently downloading many of them with linux.
 +------------------

Durring the install there is a "emergency holographic shell"
available on one of the other virtual consoles.  Probaly under the
F3 key.  From there you can run ifconfig -a to see what the installer
has done to your interfaces. 

Moving files between FreeBSD and say Linux or Win98 can be done
via the floppy using the mtools from the ports collection, or by
simply mounting a msdos file system under any os and copying them to that
partition. 

Don't worry `bout both nics appearing on the same IRQ that's normal for
PCI.  You will need to know which one is the one that points to the
internet though.  looking at the manual pages for the dc and ed devices
could help

chris

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I am trying to install apache-jserv from the port but keep getting the following
error.

*************************
configure:3932: checking JSDK
(end of "config.log")
*** Error code 1

**************************

when I further investigate the configure output I noticed this

***********************
checking JSDK... configure: error: javax.servlet.Servlet not found in /usr/local/share/java/classes/jsdk.jar
===>  Script "configure" failed: here are the contents of "config.log"
This file contains any messages produced by compilers while
running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake. 
************************
the config.log ends in
***********************
configure:3340: checking for Apache installation directory (assume shared build)
configure:3345: checking for Apache include directory
configure:3350: checking for Apache configuration directory
configure:3355: checking for Apache library directory
configure:3368: checking for Apache layout consistency
configure:3479: checking for JDK location (please wait)
configure:3587: checking Java platform
configure:3615: checking for false
configure:3653: checking java
configure:3723: checking javac
configure:3793: checking javadoc
configure:3863: checking jar
configure:3932: checking JSDK
***************************

I have the foillowing components installed

apache-1.3.12
php4.03b
jsdk2.0
jdk1.1.8

I know I am missing something but I cannot figure out what?

any help that you could offer would very appreciated.

thanks

kyle


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On Thu, 11 May 2000 03:45:06 +0000  Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios wrote:
 +------------------
 | While playing a little bit with C, i realized that even small C programs
 | eat too much memory.
 | May you, kindly, explaim me what is happenning?  How can i optimize it?
 | I think here is eating too much memory.
 +------------------

cute little critter. The RSS reported by ps is the kernels idea for 
the working set for the process.  It includes loader and exit
code, bindings for shared libraries, and some other fluff and overhead.
Static binding changes things a bit.

    gcc -static a.c
    ./a.out 1
    psg a.out
    cfedde   439  0.0  0.1   188   80  p7  R+    1:46AM   0:00.02 ./a.out 1

chris


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On Wed, 10 May 2000 17:05:06 +0100, David Larkin wrote:

> What I want to do is try and mount my old /usr partition
> and hopefully recover some files.
> 
> I was hoping to do something like
> 
> mount /dev/wd1s1f /mnt
> 
> but /dev/wd1s1f does not exist

Does wd1s1f exist?  You probably just have to create the device nodes in
the /dev directory.

> I guess I need to do 'newfs' or something similar, but
> the man page is a little cryptic.

Oh, I wouldn't do that.  The newfs(8) utility will create a new
filesystem, overwriting whatever was there before. :-)

Try this:

	cd /dev
	./MAKEDEV wd1s1f

:-)

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On Wed, 10 May 2000 17:20:19 MST, "Michael J. Ruhl" wrote:

> I was just wandering through the kernel config file for 4.0 and
> noticed that pty doesn't have a number associated with it.  Are they
> dynamic now?

Yes. :-)

> Or do I still have to have a number if I want more than
> the default (16?).

No, but I think you still have to edit /etc/ttys .

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On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 02:14:24PM -0400, Mitch Collinsworth wrote:
> 
> >Any reason why you can't move to 3.4-STABLE?
> 
> Only the little matter of available time.  This machine is humming along
> just fine save for this one annoying problem, which I'm guessing is in
> one of the applications it's running rather than the OS itself.  I've
> got other servers to install/upgrade that need far more tending to than
> this one.  When things are in order there I'll be back to upgrade this
> one.  I don't generally upgrade all my servers everytime a new release
> comes out.  (Do you?)

Sometimes, I've been known to be quite radical about this. :)
Our web server started as 2.1.5, and sinces has been: 2.1.6, 2.1.7, 2.1.7.1,
2.2.2, 2.2.5, 2.2.6, 2.2.7, 2.2.8, 3.0, 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, and is now 3.4 + i2o
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On Wed, 10 May 2000 22:48:52 EST, "Edwin S. Ancheta" wrote:

> What does BSD stand for?

Next time, give a meaningful subject line.  Lots of folks ignore
meaningless subject lines.

This is a frequently asked question and you can read the answer at:

	http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/misc.html#AEN3979

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Thus spake Giorgos Keramidas (keramida@ceid.upatras.gr):

> work moving parts here and there.  If repartitioning is not an option, you
> could always use some other machine to store the repo and share disks.  That
> is, of course, provided that this is not your only box.

Well, it seems, that I will have to merge my /usr/ports and /home/ncvs
to a new, big one and then symlink the directories (ugly hack!!).

Hmm. I also could include /usr/src, that could be a fine way to try
out CCD, though I don't want to reboot the machine :-)

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Hello ...
Is there any way to get FreeBSD administrator certificate ??

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hi 
anyone here has success install FreeBSD-4.0 on Dell PowerEdge 2450
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disconnected  wrote:

> This might be a stupid question, but is there a way to run a process under
> a specified (unused) pid?

No.

> It's not really for any good reason, but I'm rather curious, since I know
> certain basic services always claim the same pid when you reboot, and I
> don't think that's just because they fall into place that way.

They do.

Without dependencies on external I/O, the startup procedure should
be deterministic. FreeBSD assigns PIDs sequentially, and if those
services are started in the same order, the daemons will always
get the same PIDs. (Some operating systems, e.g. OpenBSD, will
assign PIDs in random distribution.)

Amazing, how the belief in magic and the loss of the assumption of
determinism has infiltrated popular computing.

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Yes, that's done the trick  .... thanks
I'm now happily recovering files off the old disk.
Once I've recovered all files, and I'm happy new installation is OK,
I'll try reformatting old disk.

Dave

Sheldon Hearn wrote:

> On Wed, 10 May 2000 17:05:06 +0100, David Larkin wrote:
>
> > What I want to do is try and mount my old /usr partition
> > and hopefully recover some files.
> >
> > I was hoping to do something like
> >
> > mount /dev/wd1s1f /mnt
> >
> > but /dev/wd1s1f does not exist
>
> Does wd1s1f exist?  You probably just have to create the device nodes in
> the /dev directory.
>
> > I guess I need to do 'newfs' or something similar, but
> > the man page is a little cryptic.
>
> Oh, I wouldn't do that.  The newfs(8) utility will create a new
> filesystem, overwriting whatever was there before. :-)
>
> Try this:
>
>         cd /dev
>         ./MAKEDEV wd1s1f
>
> :-)
>
> Ciao,
> Sheldon.
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On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 06:30:22PM -0700, Alan Chan wrote:
> Hi, I am running a FreeBSD gateway and firewall.  Currently, the
> above-referenced ports are open and I wanted to close it.  Can anyone show
> me how to close port 25 (SMTP) and 111 (sunrpc)?   By the way, what is port
> 111 anyway?  I have messaged out SMTP in the file /etc/inetd.conf, but it's
> still open when i'm running nmap.  Any reasons why?

Sendmail kees that 25 port open, and portmap I think the other one.
Copy from /etc/defaults/rc.conf the lines that enable services, i.e those
that end up in "YES", and set those that you want to disable in "NO" in
your /etc/rc.conf file.

Then, you can do more funny things with hosts.allow and ipfw(8), to make
sure that the services that you don't want to be visible from `outside'
are blocked.  For hosts.allow and ipfw read the appropriate manpages.

- giorgos


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Berkely System Design
You could have found that out at www.whatis.com if you wanted.

On Thu, 11 May 2000, Edwin S. Ancheta wrote:
> >%_What does BSD stand for?
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On Thu, 11 May 2000 21:40:09 +1200, "tom@doitagain" wrote:

> Hi, I would like to try freebsd for myself. I have looked through your
> ftp site but I don't know what to download to have the whole OS.
> Could you please advise what I need to look for?

The online FreeBSD Handbook on the web page covers this:

	http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/

Ciao,
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In www.freebsd.org and you do a search on the mailing list archieve there are
tonnes of answers regarding your question.

Hope it helps.

dannyh

dannyh@idx.com.au

O

n Thu, 11 May 2000, Norair Heybatian wrote:
> Hello ...
> Is there any way to get FreeBSD administrator certificate ??
> 
> 	Thank You for advance ...
> 	Best regards ... Norair Heybatian
> 
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Hello,

Firstly you need to create the 2 boot up floppy disk. I think www.freebsd.org
has step by step instruction. Then boot up using those floppies

When they prompt you for the media just select FTP and it will do everything
for you automatically.

This should take awhile

But I suggest you purchase a copy of FreeBSD 4 CD instead. Assuming you live in
New Zeland you can proably order a copy of FreeBSD from
www.everythinglinux.com.au or whatever.

On Thu, 11 May 2000, tom@doitagain.co.nz wrote:
> >%_Hi, I would like to try freebsd for myself. I have looked through your ftp site but I don't know what to download to have the whole OS.
> Could you please advise what I need to look for?
> Regards
> Tom
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 > to change to bash permanently i do the following:
>       chsh
> Change the SHELL to /bin/bash or where ever you installed the binary

Thanks Rano,
I did this, and it worked very well. But I want to set some aliases.
In the consol it works, but starting afterstep, it doesn't work at all
in the xterm. Is afterstep or/and xterm readning another file than the
consol (.profile or .bash_profile)?
Hope You'll know,
Thomas

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 5/11/00, 10:14:20 AM, naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber)
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> Amazing, how the belief in magic and the loss of the assumption of
> determinism has infiltrated popular computing.
  -----------

Maybe this is a side effect of quantum theories (Q.M., Q.E.D. ...) ?
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HELP!

I have been installing and running FreeBSD since 2.2.6, but have always
installed from floppy-boot->CDROM or FTP, or bootable-CDROM.

I am trying to install FreeBSD 4.0 RELEASE from Walnut Creek Disk 1.
I have a laptop with 2 bays - 1 HDD, and one of FDD/HDD/CDROM!
I would like to install from CDROM using the install.bat utility to run
from DOS.

The 4.0 CD does not contain install.bat, nor do the 3.2 or 3.4!
I have found an install.bat on a 3.1 CD and all it does is run
"fbsdboot.exe -D kernel"
There is a fbsdboot.exe in \tools of 4.0, but I cannot get it to run. I
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I have tried to use the \kernel on the CD, but am told that it is
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Please could someone help, as I don't particullarly want to create the
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Thanks Matt ..... I'll look right now :)


----- Original Message ----- 
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> On Wed, 10 May 2000, Doug Young wrote:
> 
> > Wound anyone be aware of accounting application comparable
> > with Quickbooks / MYOB / Attache thats available for FreeBSD ??
> 
> This question came across the list a few weeks ago. There is a port,
> but I can't remember its name. A search of the archives should reveal
> it. http://freebsd.org/search/
> 
> 
> -- Matt --
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On Fri, 12 May 2000 21:10:20 +1000, Danny wrote:

> you can proably order a copy of FreeBSD from
>www.everythinglinux.com.au 

Heheheh. Excuse that I find this ironic.

Here in Belgium, too, an online computer bookshop classifies FreeBSD
under Linux:


http://www.computerwinkeltje.be/hcwcs/hcw_product.asp?id=C8017&mscssid=


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Hi

Could somebody please tell me how reverse lookups take place in theory.
As far as I know it works like this:

If you do a nslookup on 111.111.111.111 then your dns server contacts the
root servers and requests a dns server ip for the class A address 111.0.0.0,
then it askes the dns server of 111.0.0.0 to look for 111.222.0.0.0 in its
records and the same for 111.111.111.0
and once again the same for the last step that the last DNS server will look
in it's ptr records and return a address of 111.111.111.111 pointing towards
foo.bar.com

right???? or wrong??

Thanx

Marius Vincent
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On 10-May-00 Mark Ovens wrote:
>   # cd /usr/ports/www/mozilla-fonts
                    ^^^
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> Berkely System Design
> You could have found that out at www.whatis.com if you wanted.

But that's not correct. It's "Berkeley Software Distribution".
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Hi all:

Is there a way to get ports to retrieve files when you are behind a
firewall/proxy.

I have asked this before, but the best I got was a reference to passive 
mode in ftp. 

I could never figure this out. Am I supposed to edit every make file to
use the -p for pftp command? Is there a control file that will do this?

Is there another way to get this to work?

An example would be very much appreciated.

Thanks
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Danny wrote:

> Berkely System Design
> You could have found that out at www.whatis.com if you wanted.

Well the FAQ says it's Berkeley Software Distribution. Who's right? :-)


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Set your environment variable FTP_PASSIVE_MODE to YES.

Ken Bolingbroke
hacker@bolingbroke.com

On Thu, 11 May 2000, Jim wrote:

> Hi all:
> 
> Is there a way to get ports to retrieve files when you are behind a
> firewall/proxy.
> 
> I have asked this before, but the best I got was a reference to passive 
> mode in ftp. 
> 
> I could never figure this out. Am I supposed to edit every make file to
> use the -p for pftp command? Is there a control file that will do this?
> 
> Is there another way to get this to work?
> 
> An example would be very much appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> Jim
> 
> 
> 
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.....and here I thought it stood for Berkely Server Daemon....

"Complete FrreeBSD" says Berkely Software Distribution

Tim Strobel
 
On Thu, 11 May 2000, Marco G. Salvagno wrote:
> Danny wrote:
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> Well the FAQ says it's Berkeley Software Distribution. Who's right? :-)
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Hello:

Using type CD9660 to mount CDs containing windows files (p.e for use it
with Samba) only is accessible the ISO short name of files.
It's posible show the long windows name?


Thanks.

Jesus Fernandez
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Does FreeBSD support AMD processors? or Kingston Network Cards?

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Hello,

I've installed identd, and it gives an example line to run in inetd.conf,
however it suggests it should run as user "sys". The user "sys" does not
exist on my freebsd4 system. The man page for identd says:

User "sys" should have enough rights to READ the kernal but NOT write to it.

So i've gone with the inetd.conf example of "root", but i have a terrible
feeling that that is rather insecure ?

Any comments ? Or does anyone know who kidnapped "sys" ? Does his family
miss him ? Was he a nice man ? etc

regards,
rob


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Howdy,

I'm trying to get tcpd working, I go to /usr/ports/security/tcp_wrappers/
and type make, and get the following;

===>  tcp_wrappers-7.6 is forbidden: tcp_wrappers is in the base system.

I found the example inetd.conf
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Hiyall,

> May 11 17:57:29 odyssey pppd[94541]: Couldn't restore device fd flags:
> Inappropriate ioctl for device
> May 11 17:57:29 odyssey pppd[94541]: ioctl(TIOCSETD): Inappropriate ioctl
> for device
> May 11 17:57:29 odyssey pppd[94541]: ioctl(TIOCSETD): Inappropriate ioctl
> for device
> May 11 17:57:30 odyssey pppd[94541]: tcsetattr: Inappropriate ioctl for
> device

What causes these errors under pppd? Is a cause documented anywhere?

Many thanks.

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If you're talking about Joliet Filesystems, then I'm not sure that
FreeBSD supports it...

Anybody know for sure?

Cheers,
Marc

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> 
> Using type CD9660 to mount CDs containing windows files (p.e for use it
> with Samba) only is accessible the ISO short name of files.
> It's posible show the long windows name?
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Jesus Fernandez
> VENTO IP
> 
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Hello,


 


I am trying to load FreeBSD 4.0 =
(Dowloaded) on=20
a Compaq Proliant server 2500. When the whole installation is finished I =
get the=20
message that the installation is succesful. However when I try to =
boot, I=20
get the error "UNABLE TO LOAD KERNEL". What is it that I am not doing=20
right?


 


When I use the boot disk it gives the =
error "NO=20
BOOTABLE KERNEL"


 


Please help.


 


Herbert=20
Nkhoma


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From owner-freebsd-questions  Thu May 11  6:32:49 2000
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Marc Silver wrote:

> If you're talking about Joliet Filesystems, then I'm not sure that
> FreeBSD supports it...
> 
> Anybody know for sure?

I've successfully mounted several Joliet-only (I mean, no RRIP) CDs
under FreeBSD 4.0-R.

On the other hand, cd9660 doesn't seem to work with RSJ generated CDs.
For more information about RSJ, point your browser to http://www.rsj.de

Should I post a PR for this issue?


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On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 10:46:03PM +0930, james wrote:
> Howdy,
> 
> I'm trying to get tcpd working, I go to /usr/ports/security/tcp_wrappers/
> and type make, and get the following;
> 
> ===>  tcp_wrappers-7.6 is forbidden: tcp_wrappers is in the base system.
> 
> I found the example inetd.conf
> (/usr/ports/security/tcp_wrapper/files/inetd.conf.wrapped.sample), but
> this refers to a file (/usr/local/libexec/tcpd) which doesn't
> exist.... how do I find this file (seeing that it is meant to be installed
> in the base system) 
> 
> any assistance would be gratefully received !! :-)

Support for tcp wrappers has been integrated into the individual programs,
so just set the appropriate hosts.allow and hosts.deny files and it
should all work automatically :)

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Please let me know why and how I can fix these problems

Rebuilding whatis database:
Cannot find file: /usr/local/man/man3/Tcl_WrongNumArgs.3.gz

Is this samba related?
kaysa.modelo.int kernel log messages:
> pid 52011 (sh), uid 0: exited on signal 10 (core dumped)


modelo.modelo.int kernel log messages:
> calcru: negative time of -695410651 usec for pid 49884 ([)


1d: Cannot apply date adjustment
usage: date [-nu] [-d dst] [-r seconds] [-t west] [-v[+|-]val[ymwdHMS]] =
...=20
            [-f fmt date | [[[[yy]mm]dd]HH]MM[.ss]] [+format]



Venustiano Carranza 357 Nte, Culiacan, Sin, Mex  CP 80000
Tel (52-67) 12-2222 Fax (52-67) 16-3763

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Please let me know why =
and how I can=20
fix these problems


 


Rebuilding whatis database:
Cannot =
find file:=20
/usr/local/man/man3/Tcl_WrongNumArgs.3.gz

Is this=20
samba related?
kaysa.modelo.int kernel log messages:
> =
pid 52011=20
(sh), uid 0: exited on signal 10 (core =
dumped)


modelo.modelo.int=20
kernel log messages:
> calcru: negative time of -695410651 usec =
for pid=20
49884 ([)


1d: Cannot apply date adjustment
usage: date =
[-nu] [-d=20
dst] [-r seconds] [-t west] [-v[+|-]val[ymwdHMS]] ...=20

            =
[-f fmt=20
date | [[[[yy]mm]dd]HH]MM[.ss]] [+format]



Venustiano =
Carranza 357=20
Nte, Culiacan, Sin, Mex  CP 80000
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Does anybody know how to implement a virtual pop server solution on
FreeBSD?

i.e.

I have three domains on my server (a.com, b.com, and c.com).
a.com wants three pop mail accounts - sales, support, and theirname
b.com wants four pop mail accounts - sales, abuse, theirname, and foo
c.com wants two pop mail accounts - support and abuse.

This creates several overlaps.  Without putting them on seperate servers,
is there a good way to go about this?  I would think it would be possible
(with sufficient tweaking) to get the popper to authenticate against
different password files depending on the domain...is there a package that
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* URSource  [000511 06:39] wrote:
> Does FreeBSD support AMD processors? or Kingston Network Cards?

Actually it does both. :)

-- 
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Hi,

can I install FreeBSD 4.0R on a IBM PS/2 Model 65SX with 8MB Ram
and 2 SCSI HDD of 120MB each?

The netowrk card is an WD8003 and the SCSI Controller is Based on Adaptec
AIC-6250EL. 

regards,

Gheorghe ARDELEAN

West Univ. Of Timisoara
Dept. of Theoretical and Computational Physics
V. Parvan No.4, Ro-1900, Timisoara, ROMANIA
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| -----Original Message-----
| From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
| [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Grandpa Walrus
| Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 4:31 PM
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| 
| 
| Does anybody know how to implement a virtual pop server solution on
| FreeBSD?

There's no virtual pop3 server AFAIK. The 'virtual' part regarding the domains
is configured and handled by the mail transfer agent (sendmail, postfix etc)

| 

Regards
------------
Dan Larsson


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BSD

Could somebody please tell me the difference between NetBSD, OpenBSD,
FreeBSD and BSDI.


What happens if you get scared half to death twice?

Marius Vincent
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On Thu, 11 May 2000 17:50:51 +0300 (EEST), Gheorghe Ardelean wrote:

>can I install FreeBSD 4.0R on a IBM PS/2 Model 65SX with 8MB Ram
>and 2 SCSI HDD of 120MB each?

The memory is a bit on the thin side.

>The netowrk card is an WD8003 and the SCSI Controller is Based on Adaptec
>AIC-6250EL. 

I looked up WD8003 and it brought me to a page about MCA. The MCA
architecture isn't supported, I'm afraid. See the bottom line on
.

-- 
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I'm looking into working with CCD.   Is there a HOW-TO in the manual, I 
didn't find one on freebsd.org.

It's not clear to me:

In order to compile in support for the ccd, you must add a line similar
      to the following to your kernel configuration file:

            pseudo-device  ccd  4    # concatenated disk devices

      The count argument is how many ccds memory is allocated for a boot time.
      In this example, no more than 4 ccds may be configured.

whether this "ccds memory" and such refers to the number of actual physical 
/dev/ paritions or it's referring to the number of "ccds" as in the pseudo 
devices themselves.


TIA



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> Does FreeBSD support AMD processors? or Kingston Network Cards?

	Yes to both! I use quite a few of both and have never had hardware
related problems.


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I get this when i run "whereis":

bash-2.03$ whereis gmatrix
Warning: couldn't stat file /usr/X11R6/man!
gmatrix:

Any ideas ?

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On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 04:54:02PM +0200, Dan Larsson wrote:
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> | From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> | [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Grandpa Walrus
> | Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 4:31 PM
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> | 
> | 
> | Does anybody know how to implement a virtual pop server solution on
> | FreeBSD?
> 
> There's no virtual pop3 server AFAIK. The 'virtual' part regarding the domains
> is configured and handled by the mail transfer agent (sendmail, postfix etc)

Isn't there some way of getting the people to use support@domain.com rather
than just the domain? That would probably work fine.

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>Could somebody please tell me how reverse lookups take place in theory.
>As far as I know it works like this:
>
>If you do a nslookup on 111.111.111.111 then your dns server contacts the
>root servers and requests a dns server ip for the class A address 111.0.0.0,
>then it askes the dns server of 111.0.0.0 to look for 111.222.0.0.0 in its
>records and the same for 111.111.111.0
>and once again the same for the last step that the last DNS server will look
>in it's ptr records and return a address of 111.111.111.111 pointing towards
>foo.bar.com
>
>right???? or wrong??

hmm, well you're sort of on the right track here, but your explanation
is wrong.  When you "nslookup 111.222.333.444"  your request is converted
into a request for a PTR record for "444.333.222.111.in-addr.arpa."
From there, all normal lookup rules apply, i.e. first lookup "arpa.",
then "in-addr.arpa.", then "111.in-addr.arpa.", etc.  Basically, there
is nothing special about reverse lookups except for converting the IP
address into in-addr.arpa notation before starting.

-Mitch


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>| Does anybody know how to implement a virtual pop server solution on
>| FreeBSD?
>
>There's no virtual pop3 server AFAIK. The 'virtual' part regarding the domains
>is configured and handled by the mail transfer agent (sendmail, postfix etc)

I recently learned that there is at least one virtual pop3 server.
A local isp here is running one that accepts connections with
user specified as: user%domain.dom

Telnetting to their pop3 port I get:

+OK local.isp.com running Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.0b7 <1254075992-3915071@local.isp.com>

But this probably won't help "Grandpa", who is looking for a FBSD solution.

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On Wednesday, May 10, 2000 10:47 PM Crist J. Clark
 wrote:


>On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 06:07:34PM -0600, Duke Normandin wrote:
>> I'm running 3.3R...
>> The following script ( a port from tcsh) fails with the error message
>> if: expression syntax error
>>
>> #!/bin/csh
>> #
>> if ( mv $* ~/tmp ) then
>>     echo "The files have been moved! To remove them "
>>     echo "use the 'purge' command "
>> else
>>     echo "Something's haywire! Files not moved. "
>> endif
>>
>> I can't figure this puppy out! Tia.....
>>
>> -duke
>
>First...
>
>DO NOT USE CSH FOR SCRIPTS. Use /bin/sh. (And I use tcsh for my
>interactive shells, wouldn't dream of writing scripts in it.)


I've been reading documents on the www about this issue -- something to
the effect that the C Shell is "evil". I'm not in a position to judge, although
the same could be said about C or Perl I suppose, *if* a person isn't inclined
to RTFM, and is a sloppy programmer. Of course, there is also the fact that
sh is "standard" across most *nix flavors (I think?) which fact should be
enough for me to drop csh.

>  #!/bin/sh
>  #
>  if mv $* ~/tmp; then
>      echo "The files have been moved! To remove them "
>      echo "use the 'purge' command "
>  else
>      echo "Something's haywire! Files not moved. "
>  fi


Thanks for the sh version!

>Second, if some evil force is compelling you to use csh, RTFM, csh(1),


Starting immediately, I've adopted a 48 hrs "cooling off" period for all
my posts to the FBsd/PHP/mySQL lists ;) Inevitably, I find the answer
on my own soon after I click on "send" -- as follows:

[quote]
Another use of commands is to use their return codes inside conditional expres-
sions.  For example, the -s option of the grep command stands for silent mode.
It causes grep to do its job without producing any output, but the return code
is then used.  You cannot see the return code, but you can use it if you sur-
round the command in curly braces:

     if ({grep -s junk $1}) then
           echo "We found junk in file $1"
     endif

Notice that if (`grep junk $1`) would not work because this would cause
grep's output to be substituted into the expression, but in silent mode, there
is no output.
[unquote]

Thanks for your help and advise!

-duke



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Hi,

I've got some code that's trying to determine if a soundcard/sound-support
exists in the running system.

I'm using PCIOCGETCONF to look for any PCI soundcards.

Here are my questions:

1. It appears that PCIOCGETCONF is not a public interface on 2.x, 3.x.
   Is there a clean way around this without #includ'ing things from
   /usr/src/sys/pci (which may not even exist on the host doing the compile)?

2. Even for 4.0 it seems that the interface isn't completely public:
   I had to go look at /usr/src/sys/pci/pcireg.h to get symbolic #defines
   for things like PCIC_MULTIMEDIA, etc.  Is this correct? Due to change?

3. For ISA soundcard detection, I'm looking at how pnpinfo does it.

    a. Is this a reasonable way to go?
    c. If so, is the keyword 'Audio' in the descriptive text guaranteed
       to always be there for an ISA soundcard?
    b. Is there a simpler, cleaner i/f for doing this (akin to PCIOCGETCONF
       perhaps)?

4. Will the above approaches cover the case of motherboards with on-board
   sound support? If not, then...?

5. Is there perhaps a simpler way to do this in general? E.g., without
   presuming permissions to read on /dev/pci and /dev/io, respectively?
   Some general way to get a list of all probed devices and their
   attributes?

   (I suppose I could look at dmesg output and search for sndN and pcmN.
   I'm hoping for something less crude. Or is there a programatic
   interface for the /var/log output, et al? I'd have to be able to get
   to this info even when the /dev/kmem msg buffer and log wraps.)

Thanks in advance for any guidence.

k.

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I need to get the domain and tld from an url.

this my idea of what would match and return 'domain.com':
echo http://www.domain.com/html.asp | sed -e 's/\([\.a-zA-Z0-9]+[a-zA-Z]{2,3}\)/\1 /g'

But that's not what sh thinks ( it returns the whole url )
What regexp should I use to get the desired result?

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i wanted to put x windows on my computer, and i was wondering where
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hello!  I'm a new user of FreeBSD.  I have downloaded most of the =
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At 09:30 PM 5/10/00 -0600, Ryan Thompson wrote:
>Mike Tancsa wrote to questions@FreeBSD.ORG:
>
>> 
>> I have a test box that is having problems with su.  If I do something like
>> su username
>>
>> and give it the wrong password, it just hangs
>> 
>> buildbox% su mdtancsa
>> Password:
>> Sorry
>> 
>> 
>> And it just hangs after the sorry.  Any ideas what might be going on ?
>> 
>> 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE #0: Mon Mar  6 20:10:37 EST 2000
>> 
>> 	---Mike
>
>I don't see this behaviour on either of my 3.4 machines (one machine was
>updated last week.  The other is running from a 2 m.o. cvsup), using
>descrypt on one.
>
>Define "hangs"... I.e., if this is on a local vty, can you switch to
>another?  I assume ^C/^Z don't knock it out?  Does it hang the whole box
>(can you ping/login to the machine?).  Or is su the only process that's
>hanging?  Can you do a ps -axl?  Is the box using remote passwords?  
>
>Have you changed your crypt libs around lately?  Are all the links as they
>should be?  Modtimes sufficiently old?
>
>Occasionally, on virtual terminals, when a program exits on failure
>(usually after it dumps core), I don't get a prompt back, and the term
>wreaks havoc with the keyboard.  Usually I just kill the controlling shell
>and getty cleans up the mess :-)

Its something around this perhaps.


  UID   PID  PPID CPU PRI NI   VSZ  RSS WCHAN  STAT  TT       TIME COMMAND
  1001 65053 65051   0  18  0  1372 1012 pause  Is    p4    0:00.07 -tcsh 
(tcsh)
     0 65062 65053 255   4 -2  1020  648 ttywri I<+   p4    0:00.01 su


ps -auxt v0
USER   PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS  TT  STAT STARTED      TIME COMMAND
root   337  0.0  0.0     0    0  v0- Z    -         0:00.00  (login)

When I physically went to the machine this morning, V0 was indeed hosed and
in a zombie state.  Is this co-incidence ?  Is there anyway to simulate
this issue so that I can see if the behaviour is repeatable ?  Would it be
because syslog is trying to write to the console and the process is getting
stuck there ?  Hmmm

Ah ha!

I just went to the machine and killed syslogd, and the problem is fixed!  I
guess su was writing to syslogd a "BAD su to root" message, but syslogd
could not write to /dev/console because the console getty was hosed on
ttyV0 and su just wait there indefinitly.

I havent thought about it enough, but is there a potential for a little
denial of service ?  At the very least, should su get stuck waiting for
syslog to do its thing like this ? I would say not, as I was locked out of
my box temporarily until I was able to physically get to it this morning
and login directly as root.

	---Mike
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I upgraded my home PC from 3.4 to 4.0 not long ago and
am having an issue with my ide cd-rom drive.

My setup:
  Primary
    Master: 5G drive
    Slave: 5G Drive
  Secondary
    Master: 24x CD-ROM
    Slave: 2x CD-ROM
  Tertiary:
    on SoundBlaster, not used

Under DOS, 95, and 3.4 the drive was detected and worked
just fine; but under 4.0 the drive detection times out:
  ata1-master: ata_command: timeout waiting for intr
  ata1-master: identify failed

I booted once to my backup 3.4 kernel and the drive was
detected.

Does anyone have any suggestions on making this work? 
Thanks.

-frank


Some excerpts from dmesg:

FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #49: Sat May  6 21:55:06 EDT 2000
    frank@tigger:/usr/src/sys/compile/FBSD_TIGGER

atapci0:  port
0xfff0-0xffff at device 7.1 on pci0

ata0: iobase=0x01f0 altiobase=0x03f6 bmaddr=0xfff0
ata0: mask=03 status0=50 status1=50
ata0: mask=03 status0=50 status1=50
ata0: devices = 0x3
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0

ata1: iobase=0x0170 altiobase=0x0376 bmaddr=0xfff8
ata1: mask=03 status0=50 status1=50
ata1: mask=03 status0=00 status1=00
ata1: devices = 0xc
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0

ata2: iobase=0x0168 altiobase=0x036e bmaddr=0x0000
ata2: mask=00 status0=ff status1=ff
ata2: probe allocation failed
unknown2:  at port
0x168-0x16f,0x36e-0x36f irq 10 on isa0

BIOS Geometries:
 0:0271fe3f 0..625=626 cylinders, 0..254=255 heads,
1..63=63 sectors
 1:026cfe3f 0..620=621 cylinders, 0..254=255 heads,
1..63=63 sectors
 0 accounted for
Device configuration finished.

ata1-master: ata_command: timeout waiting for intr
ata1-master: identify failed

ata0-master: success setting up UDMA2 mode on VIA chip
ad0:  ATA-4 disk at ata0 as
master
ad0: 4924MB (10085040 sectors), 10672 cyls, 15 heads, 63
S/T, 512 B/S
ad0: 16 secs/int, 1 depth queue, UDMA33
ad0: piomode=4 dmamode=2 udmamode=2 cblid=0
Creating DISK ad0
Creating DISK wd0

ata0-slave: success setting up WDMA2 mode on VIA chip
ad1:  ATA-3 disk at ata0 as
slave
ad1: 4884MB (10002825 sectors), 10585 cyls, 15 heads, 63
S/T, 512 B/S
ad1: 16 secs/int, 1 depth queue, WDMA2
ad1: piomode=4 dmamode=2 udmamode=-1 cblid=0
Creating DISK ad1
Creating DISK wd1

ata1-slave: piomode=0 dmamode=0 udmamode=-1 dmaflag=1
ata1-slave: success setting up PIO0 mode on generic chip
acd0:  CDROM drive at ata1 as slave
acd0: read 344KB/s (344KB/s), 256KB buffer, PIO0
acd0: Reads: CD-DA stream
acd0: Audio: play, 256 volume levels
acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray
acd0: Medium: CD-ROM unknown medium, unlocked



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If you can assume that the URLs are syntactically correct,

% echo http://www.domain.com/html.asp | cut -d/ -f3
www.domain.com

-Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Larsson [mailto:dl@tyfon.net]
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 10:43 AM
To: questions@freebsd.org
Subject: regexp driving me nuts, help needed!


I need to get the domain and tld from an url.

this my idea of what would match and return 'domain.com':
echo http://www.domain.com/html.asp | sed -e
's/\([\.a-zA-Z0-9]+[a-zA-Z]{2,3}\)/\1 /g'

But that's not what sh thinks ( it returns the whole url )
What regexp should I use to get the desired result?

Regards
------------
Dan Larsson


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Hi,

http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html used to allow
searche results to be sorted by date. Is there some reason
this has been disabled, and/or way we could have this feature
restored?

Thanks,
k
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Thanks for responding, Kevin;

/dev/cuaa0 is what FreeBSD 4.0R uses as com1, there is no ttyS0 as in linux.
At one point I symlinked ttyS0 to cuaa0 but it made no difference.  I'm
still stumped!!!
Mike

----- Original Message -----
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4.0R]


> Mike wrote:
>
> > Hi All;
> >
> > I'm going nuts trying to get this camera to work with gPhoto 0.4.3 and
> > FreeBSD 4.0R.  I compiled gPhoto 0.4.3 from the ports - no probs. ;
> > fires up perfectly.  In gPhoto (logged in as root), I selected the
> > camera and port (/dev/cuaa0).  When gPhoto tries to communicate with the
>
> I use /dev/ttyS0.  I think that /dev/cua0 is for output only; I don't
think
> it allows bi-directional communication.  Try using /dev/ttyS0 and see what
> happens.
>
> -- Kevin
>
>
> >
> >
> > camera I see the camera status light blink once and thats it.  Nothing
> > else and I have to kill gPhoto.
> >
> > Camera, cables etc. work under w98 and I had it working about 6 months
> > ago under RH 6.0 and gPhoto 0.4.0.
> >
> > Seems like a baud rate / permissions / handshaking kinda thang...but I'm
> >
> > really out of ideas.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > gphoto maillist  -  gphoto@gphoto.org
> > http://lists.styx.net/mailman/listinfo/gphoto
>



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I also recommend inetd_enable="NO" for a gateway/firewall machine.
That makes more sense than commenting everything out of inetd.conf while
leaving inetd running.

Rudy

On Thu, 11 May 2000, Marc Silver wrote:

> portmap_enable="NO"
> sendmail_enable="NO"
> 
> Just add those two lines to your /etc/rc.conf ...

> On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 06:30:22PM -0700, Alan Chan wrote:
> > Hi, I am running a FreeBSD gateway and firewall. 



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Goodday People,

Please someone help me out as I am getting really desperate.

I am trying to setup a server with an 40 Gigs IDE drive under
FreeBSD4.0-Release.

Now, this is how I am trying to partition it.

1st Slice	250M
2nd Slice	the rest

this is how I am trying to put the mounts

1st slice
	243M	FS	/
2nd slice
	773M	SWAP
	100M	FS	/var
	the rest FS	/usr

Now, it formats the drive and installs, but I am still not able to get the
thing to boot.  Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong??

there is an unused slice of 63 blocks at the start of the drive.  Should
that be placed as active?  I tried putting the first bsd slice as active,
could that be the problem?

Yes, I am tried it with the boot manager & the standard mbr.

Please, I need some input soon.  If I did not post enough information,
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deadline, I would like to get this done soon enough

Jason
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Hello,
     I have a question about creating the installation floppy disks for FreeBSD.  The problem is 
that both boot.flp and mfsroot.flp are too large to fit on a 1.44MB floppy disk, being that each 
file is ~1.47MB.  Trying to use fdimage.exe to image either one onto a disk produces an error 
message, indicating that the file is too big.  Is there a workaround for this?  Please advise.

Thank you,
Jason



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On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 11:32:00PM +0100, Ben Smithurst wrote:

> If the users are primarily web users, how about setting their web
> browser's start page to a CGI script on the FreeBSD server, which says
> either "online" or "offline" (plus some useful links or whatever else
> you want), or just give them the URL to that page so they can bookmark
> it.  You could probably write a script to bring the link up using a CGI
> script too (and stick a link to that on the aforementioned "home" page).

I think this is an excellent solution.  I was aiming to create
a 'home page' with helpful and brief 'howtos' and guidance notes there,
so adding an 'ONLINE' / 'OFFLINE' notice and being able to dial up
from a secure CGI link sounds reasonable.  It never crossed my mind
to consider CGI.   

Thanks for the innovative help.

	Darren


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Hi all,
	I sent mail last night from home but it doesn't seem to have made
it. 

	I'm trying to get SecuRemote (Firewall-1) working through a 2.2.8-R
box I'm using as a gateway at home. I got UserPPP setup to pass FWZ and
ISAKMP (ports 259 and 500) thru to the pc and authentication works fine.
But IPSEC (ip protocol 50) doesn't make it. I see it come in on tun0
with traceroute, but nothing past that happens. 

	I notice that KAME (the IPSEC) support comes in on 3.x somewhere
and it's apparently incorporated in 4.0. 

	So I guess I need to upgrade the thing right. Any thoughts. Can I
upgrade from 2.2.8 straight to 4.0? I have CD's (of course, this old 486
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>I need to get the domain and tld from an url.
>
>this my idea of what would match and return 'domain.com':
>echo http://www.domain.com/html.asp | sed -e 's/\([\.a-zA-Z0-9]+[a-zA-Z]{2,3}\
>)/\1 /g'
>
>But that's not what sh thinks ( it returns the whole url )
>What regexp should I use to get the desired result?

Here's a perl 1-liner:

echo http://www.domain.com/html.asp |\
 perl -e '$u=<>; $u=~s/http:\/\///; $u=~s/^www.//i; $u=~s/\/.*$//; print $u'
domain.com

This works in stages, so it doesn't depending on the starting string
always containing all syntactical elements.

-Mitch


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Hi all.

I am trying to set up my QuickCam Pro parallel port to work with cqcam.
These are the messages when kernel boots up. However, cqcam says "No
camera found."

ppc0:  at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppbus0: IEEE1284 device found /ECP
Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0:
ppbus0:  MEDIA
ppi0:  on ppbus0
lpt0:  on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port


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>      I have a question about creating the installation floppy disks for FreeBSD.  The problem is 
> that both boot.flp and mfsroot.flp are too large to fit on a 1.44MB floppy disk, being that each 
> file is ~1.47MB.  Trying to use fdimage.exe to image either one onto a disk produces an error 
> message, indicating that the file is too big.  Is there a workaround for this?  Please advise.

	Make sure the disks are freshly formatted with no bad sectors, no
boot sectors, etc. Then use fdimage.exe 


						Rick



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I know how to implement 'a solution'.  It is probably not the best,
nevertheless, I use this methodology (I manage about 10 domain names).
It works with FBS out-of-the-box.

YOu have to create unique unix accounts for every user.  To do this
prepend every user name with a suffix to identify which domain they reside
in.  (this makes it easy to erase a bunch of domain names when a domain
stops hosting with you as well).

 DOMAIN NAME         -> SUFFIX for unix level username
 marinasancarlos.com -> msc
 stim.com            -> sti
 thebiglebowski.com  -> tbl

Next, take care of incoming mail with some sendmail configuration
tweaks in /etc/mail/virutalusertable:
   @marinasancarlos.com	msc-%1
   @stim.com	sti-%1
   @thebiglebowski.com	tbl-%1

(don't forget to add all these domains to your /etc/mail/sendmail.cw file)
(don't forget to go to http://www.sendmail.org/ to figure out how to set
up a virtualusertable)

Now, tell your users their POP accounts are msc-sales, msc-support,
tbl-support, etc.  (don't forget to make these accounts with 'adduser'!)

Rudy



On Thu, 11 May 2000, Grandpa Walrus wrote:

> Does anybody know how to implement a virtual pop server solution on
> FreeBSD?
> 
> i.e.
> 
> I have three domains on my server (a.com, b.com, and c.com).
> a.com wants three pop mail accounts - sales, support, and theirname
> b.com wants four pop mail accounts - sales, abuse, theirname, and foo
> c.com wants two pop mail accounts - support and abuse.
> 
> This creates several overlaps.  Without putting them on seperate servers,
> is there a good way to go about this?  I would think it would be possible
> (with sufficient tweaking) to get the popper to authenticate against
> different password files depending on the domain...is there a package that
> implements this currently?
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Ah, I totally missed the comment about FreeBSD.  I fixated on the fact
that you had it running under RH.  Sorry.

For what it's worth my /dev/ttyS0 is crw-rw-rw and owned by root,uucp.

-- Kevin

mike@rockatronic.com writes:
 > Thanks for responding, Kevin;
 > 
 > /dev/cuaa0 is what FreeBSD 4.0R uses as com1, there is no ttyS0 as in linux.
 > At one point I symlinked ttyS0 to cuaa0 but it made no difference.  I'm
 > still stumped!!!
 > Mike
 > 
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: "Kevin Penrose" 
 > To: "Mike" 
 > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 7:09 PM
 > Subject: Re: [gphoto] Help!--> gPhoto 0.4.3 / HP Photosmart C30 / FreeBSD
 > 4.0R]
 > 
 > 
 > > Mike wrote:
 > >
 > > > Hi All;
 > > >
 > > > I'm going nuts trying to get this camera to work with gPhoto 0.4.3 and
 > > > FreeBSD 4.0R.  I compiled gPhoto 0.4.3 from the ports - no probs. ;
 > > > fires up perfectly.  In gPhoto (logged in as root), I selected the
 > > > camera and port (/dev/cuaa0).  When gPhoto tries to communicate with the
 > >
 > > I use /dev/ttyS0.  I think that /dev/cua0 is for output only; I don't
 > think
 > > it allows bi-directional communication.  Try using /dev/ttyS0 and see what
 > > happens.
 > >
 > > -- Kevin
 > >
 > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > camera I see the camera status light blink once and thats it.  Nothing
 > > > else and I have to kill gPhoto.
 > > >
 > > > Camera, cables etc. work under w98 and I had it working about 6 months
 > > > ago under RH 6.0 and gPhoto 0.4.0.
 > > >
 > > > Seems like a baud rate / permissions / handshaking kinda thang...but I'm
 > > >
 > > > really out of ideas.
 > > >
 > > > Any suggestions?
 > > >
 > > > Thanks,
 > > > Mike
 > > >
 > > > _______________________________________________
 > > > gphoto maillist  -  gphoto@gphoto.org
 > > > http://lists.styx.net/mailman/listinfo/gphoto
 > >
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > _______________________________________________
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Rick Hamell  said: 
> 	Make sure the disks are freshly formatted with no bad sectors, no
> boot sectors, etc. Then use fdimage.exe 
> 
> 
> 						Rick

I did that, and still no luck.  It does not even attempt to copy the file onto the disk; MS-DOS 
immediately says 'kern.flp - File is too big'.  Any other suggestions?

-Jason



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> > 	Make sure the disks are freshly formatted with no bad sectors, no
> > boot sectors, etc. Then use fdimage.exe 
> 
> I did that, and still no luck.  It does not even attempt to copy the file onto the disk; MS-DOS 
> immediately says 'kern.flp - File is too big'.  Any other suggestions?

	Yep... redownload the files as binary files... not ascii. (right
clicking in your web browser should do this.)


					Rick



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Hi,

I am pretty sure you can do what you want with qmail.  I haven't tried it
yet myself but I plan to.

http://www.tibus.net/pgregg/projects/qmail/single-uid-howto.html

Theo

On Thu, 11 May 2000, Rudy Rucker wrote:

> 
> I know how to implement 'a solution'.  It is probably not the best,
> nevertheless, I use this methodology (I manage about 10 domain names).
> It works with FBS out-of-the-box.
> 
> YOu have to create unique unix accounts for every user.  To do this
> prepend every user name with a suffix to identify which domain they reside
> in.  (this makes it easy to erase a bunch of domain names when a domain
> stops hosting with you as well).
> 
>  DOMAIN NAME         -> SUFFIX for unix level username
>  marinasancarlos.com -> msc
>  stim.com            -> sti
>  thebiglebowski.com  -> tbl
> 
> Next, take care of incoming mail with some sendmail configuration
> tweaks in /etc/mail/virutalusertable:
>    @marinasancarlos.com	msc-%1
>    @stim.com	sti-%1
>    @thebiglebowski.com	tbl-%1
> 
> (don't forget to add all these domains to your /etc/mail/sendmail.cw file)
> (don't forget to go to http://www.sendmail.org/ to figure out how to set
> up a virtualusertable)
> 
> Now, tell your users their POP accounts are msc-sales, msc-support,
> tbl-support, etc.  (don't forget to make these accounts with 'adduser'!)
> 
> Rudy
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 11 May 2000, Grandpa Walrus wrote:
> 
> > Does anybody know how to implement a virtual pop server solution on
> > FreeBSD?
> > 
> > i.e.
> > 
> > I have three domains on my server (a.com, b.com, and c.com).
> > a.com wants three pop mail accounts - sales, support, and theirname
> > b.com wants four pop mail accounts - sales, abuse, theirname, and foo
> > c.com wants two pop mail accounts - support and abuse.
> > 
> > This creates several overlaps.  Without putting them on seperate servers,
> > is there a good way to go about this?  I would think it would be possible
> > (with sufficient tweaking) to get the popper to authenticate against
> > different password files depending on the domain...is there a package that
> > implements this currently?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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I have an open system application that I want to maintain from multiple 
servers (in different countries).  Cvspserver works ok from inetd but 
unless I have missed something, it can't be mirrored due to real-time 
commit requirements.

It looks like I can use the cvsupd and cvsup-mirror ports OK but cvsup is 
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My thought is to do both using cvsup to maintain the mirrors from the 
primary host but then use cvs from the primary and all mirrors for local 
developers who can use unix/mac/windows cvs-enabled development platforms.

My first read is that this is possible but it looks a little complicated 
so I hope someone can tell me if I'm not on the right track before I sink 
a whole lot of effort into it..


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On Thu, 11 May 2000, Mitch Collinsworth wrote:
> Basically, there
> is nothing special about reverse lookups except for converting the IP
> address into in-addr.arpa notation before starting.

There is one unique difference.
If you have a Class C address, and reserve a domain through Internic, it
is easy to specify what DNS server that domain should use.  If you Get a
Class C address, and wish to host the in-addr.arpa you are at the *mercy*
of your upstream provider's technical support team.  It took Verio 3
months to corrently configure their DNS servers to slave off of my DNS
server.

Tips (based purely on my situation, your's may be different):
1) My upstream provider insists on doing reverse DNS, so they have to be
set up as a slave to my master DNS server.
2) The NS field in your in-addr.arpa record is important.  The upstream
provider may not be able to pull your records unless they have an NS
field in your reverse lookup record. eg:
  IN	NS	ns.YOURUPSTEAM_PROVIDER.com
This is true for forward as well as reverse lookups.

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Some floppies are only 360K.  For example if you are using old driver
floppies, the compnay who made the floppy may have been cheap.

Do a 'chkdsk a:' and verify that it is a 1.44 Mb diskette.

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Hi all,

I'm trying to upgrade from a relatively new install of 3.4 to 4.0 via
CD.  I boot to the atapi CDROM, and choose upgrade from the sysinstall
menu.  After selecting the distros, it puts me in the partition editor,
but da0 doesn't show any existing partitions.  A secondary, single
partition SCSI raid shows its partition fine on da1.  I've included
debug and dmesg output below.

Any ideas what could be happening?

Thanks,

Brad


4.0 sysinstall debug:
---------------------
da0: bad sector table not supported
da0s1: bad sector table not supported
(repeated several times)


3.4 dmesg:
----------
FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE #1: Wed Apr 19 09:40:55 MDT 2000
    root@susie:/usr/src/sys/compile/SUSIE
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 451026354 Hz
CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (451.03-MHz 586-class CPU)
  Origin = "AuthenticAMD"  Id = 0x58c  Stepping = 12
  Features=0x8021bf
  AMD Features=0x80000800
real memory  = 67108864 (65536K bytes)
avail memory = 62328832 (60868K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02c8000.
Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
chip0:  rev 0x04 on pci0.0.0
chip1:  rev 0x00 on pci0.1.0
chip2:  rev 0x1b on
pci0.7.0
ide_pci0:  rev 0x06 on
pci0.7.1
chip3:  rev 0x20 on
pci0.7.4
ahc0:  rev 0x00 int a irq 10 on
pci0.8.0
ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs
xl0: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> rev 0x00 int a irq 5 on
pci0.10.0
xl0: Ethernet address: 00:10:5a:02:2f:e5
xl0: autoneg complete, link status good (half-duplex, 100Mbps)
vga0:  rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on
pci0.11.0
Probing for devices on PCI bus 1:
Probing for PnP devices:
Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
sc0 on isa
sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard
atkbd0 irq 1 on isa
psm0 irq 12 on isa
psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa
sio1: type 16550A
fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in
wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa
wdc0: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, intr, iordy
acd0: drive speed 2636KB/sec, 255KB cache
acd0: supported read types:
acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels
acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray
acd0: Medium: CD-ROM 120mm data disc loaded, unlocked
wdc1 not found at 0x170
ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa
ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
lpt0:  on ppbus 0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0:  on ppbus 0
plip0:  on ppbus 0
ep0 not found at 0x300
vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa
npx0 on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
changing root device to da0s1a
da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0
da1:  Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
da1: 3.300MB/s transfers
da1: 52017MB (106530816 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 52017C)
da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0
da0:  Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing
Enabled
da0: 4095MB (8388315 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 4095C)


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>> Basically, there
>> is nothing special about reverse lookups except for converting the IP
>> address into in-addr.arpa notation before starting.
>
>There is one unique difference.

Besides the fact that this has nothing to do with the question that was
asked "How do reverse lookups work?", there is nothing unique about
this.  All DNS delegations are managed by working out the details with
the manager of the parent zone.  If you have a .com domain, the manager
of the parent zone is the Internic.  If you have an .in-addr.arpa zone,
the manager of the parent zone is whoever you obtained your IP space
from.  The fact that some zone managers are better organized than others
is nothing new and doesn't change the mechanical details of how it all
fits together.

Now if your IP subnet happens to be less than a /24, there are some unique
issues you have to deal with in configuring the in-addr.arpa delegation
since it doesn't fit along a zone boundary.  But even this doesn't change
_how_ reverse lookups are done.

>If you have a Class C address, and reserve a domain through Internic, it
>is easy to specify what DNS server that domain should use.  If you Get a
>Class C address, and wish to host the in-addr.arpa you are at the *mercy*
>of your upstream provider's technical support team.  It took Verio 3
>months to corrently configure their DNS servers to slave off of my DNS
>server.

-Mitch


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Hi;

	I'm writing because everywhere I've looked I can't find anything
that even remotely resembles my problem.  I'll start with my system
configuration.

	Pentium3-500mhz
	128M RAM
	13G IDE Hard Drive
	2 ATAPI CD drives (1 is a burner)
	Microsoft Intellimouse PS/2
	Standard Keyboard
	Already has WIN98 installed (with progs and whatnot taking up 2.8G
space)
	56k Modem, pretty sure its PnP
	Voodoo3 3000 AGP graphics
	SB Live! sound card
	Accton Etherlink 10/100 NIC

Ok....so heres the problem.  I use Partition Magic to create a partition
within the cyclinder boundary leaving me with 1 3Gig partition for windows,
1 3Gig partition for FreeBSD, and 1 7Gig partition formatted as FAT32 for
windows progs.  That finished Partition Magic only formats for Linux, so I
have the partition I'm going to use for FreeBSD formatted in the ext2 format
for Linux.  I reboot using the install CD for FreeBSD, all boots up fine
into the installer, I gang anything SCSI from the kernel config, I figure I
have no need for it, my type of NIC card is not on the list so I don't
install any support for it via the kernel config, so I'm left with some IDE
controllers listed and no conflicts at all...I go with that, dumped into the
disk slice screen, I change the linux partition to type 165 (FreeBSD) and
set it bootable.  Next screen is for partition of the FreeBSD slice, here is
where my problems start, I try to partition the FreeBSD slice into ANY point
(/, /usr, /var, etc etc)...trying to get the partition to take.  In each
case it says that it cannot make the partition in that area.  I am following
a tutorial I got off of one of the sites as well as checking the handbook
(printed everything I could find out), nothing mentioning this and nothing
saying I've done anything wrong.  The exact message (trying to remember) is
"Unable to create partition in that area, too much space?".  I am creating
the partition to 256M as instructed in a tutorial I printed.  I've gone
through all the websites I could find and read as much as I could and still
haven't seen where I went wrong...If you folks have any idea please let me
know....oh yeah..its the FreeBSD 4.0-Release thats I'm doing this with (the
tutorial shows a novice installation option to use but theres no such thing
on this installer that I can see so I'm using standard).

Mike Kaminski, SrA
2 SOPS/DOUMP
567-6256
"If at first you don't succeed, quit;
 don't be a nut about success."



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I would like to upgrade my network stack from one I pulled from NetBSD 1.3
to that used by FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE.  What I need to determine first is what
features I would gain, and what features I would lose, if any.  Do you have
any good ideas on how to go about this task?  Much appreciated.

Mark Myhre
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From: Alfred Perlstein 
To: Jim Flowers 
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Subject: Re: CVS and CVSUP Servers
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* Jim Flowers  [000511 11:32] wrote:
> I have an open system application that I want to maintain from multiple 
> servers (in different countries).  Cvspserver works ok from inetd but 
> unless I have missed something, it can't be mirrored due to real-time 
> commit requirements.
> 
> It looks like I can use the cvsupd and cvsup-mirror ports OK but cvsup is 
> not world-available (NT/2000 etc.).
> 
> My thought is to do both using cvsup to maintain the mirrors from the 
> primary host but then use cvs from the primary and all mirrors for local 
> developers who can use unix/mac/windows cvs-enabled development platforms.
> 
> My first read is that this is possible but it looks a little complicated 
> so I hope someone can tell me if I'm not on the right track before I sink 
> a whole lot of effort into it..

Ok, you don't want developers using local repositories to commit
to, only to do deltas and logs from.  You want them committing to
a centralized repository, you'd only use cvsup for mirror and
distribution.

Using CVSup should be fine, a more platform independant but much
less featurefull tool might be rsync.


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News site http://daily.daemonnews.org/ is pointing to a Yahoo! article
about a clustering system which is being bundled with FreeBSD 4.0 now.
The link is below.

How well does clustering work?  Is it very hard to set up?  How does the
failover work when I have multiple machines?  Do they somehow share an IP?

The reason I am concerned is that I manage a website which will be getting
much more traffic now that we have a large advertising budget.  As the
site gets much more traffic I am thinking a single FreeBSD box may not
cut it and I would have to do either a dual pentium or round-robin dns
much like sites like cnn.com do now.

What other options do I have besides clustering?  How about channeling
services through a single server with NAT to route to dns, web and mail
traffic which I can dynamically route as needed?  Just a little over my
head.

Anyone have any experience here?  Any insights?

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/000501/ca_polyser_1.html

Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin
projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com

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On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 08:29:18AM -0600, Duke Normandin wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 10, 2000 10:47 PM Crist J. Clark
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> >On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 06:07:34PM -0600, Duke Normandin wrote:


> >DO NOT USE CSH FOR SCRIPTS. Use /bin/sh. (And I use tcsh for my
> >interactive shells, wouldn't dream of writing scripts in it.)
> 
> 
> I've been reading documents on the www about this issue -- something to
> the effect that the C Shell is "evil". I'm not in a position to judge, although
> the same could be said about C or Perl I suppose, *if* a person isn't inclined
> to RTFM, and is a sloppy programmer. Of course, there is also the fact that
> sh is "standard" across most *nix flavors (I think?) which fact should be
> enough for me to drop csh.

csh is pretty standard across UNIX flavors. sh is always there, but
there can be compatibility issues (is it Bourne or Korn for one
thing). The primary problem is that you cannot do some basic things
like,

  $ command 2> /dev/null

In csh. There is the hack,

  > ( command > /dev/tty ) >& /dev/null

But it is just that, a hack that does not always work as desired. The
csh syntax looks familiar to someone familiar with C... at first, but
its limitations quickly are apparent. csh makes you do things in
odd ways to get around the limited syntax. In sh I can just,

  if ls | grep -q '.txt'; then
      echo ".txt-files found"
  fi

Best way I can think of in csh is,

  ls | grep -q '.txt'
  if ( $? = 0 ) echo ".txt-files found"

Another huge thing is the inability to direct the output of a loop or
other groupings of commands in csh. In sh, I can,

  for FILE in *.txt; do
    command1 $FILE |
    command2
  done | command3

Where the file is an arg to command1 whose stdout is sent to
command2. Then the output of the whole loop is sent to command3. I
can't think of a way to do that in csh with one script or without a
temporary file.
-- 
Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@home.com


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There are many different ways you can approach this. I'll give you my
two suggestions, but I'd be curious as to what you do end up using? 
	First off- (this is something we actually implement) you could use a
managed hub to  setup resilient port pools, wherein two identical
mirrored machines (both assuming the same IP address) are connected to
say port one, and port 12 of the hub; when the hub detects a loss of
link, or a poor link status (user defined 'poor'), it disconnects one
machine and connects the other. We're utilizing this concept on our
radius boxes, because it allows us to reboot them daily without any
interuption in service (one at noon, one at midnight kinda deal).
	Secondly, you could use some sort of caching system (ie squid), to
accelerate your httpd server(s) through the user of cache-pools.
Although descriptively shorter, this method is much more difficult to
implement.
	Anyhow, I think you under-estimate the capabilities of a one-machine
webserver; Yahoo has posted reports of being able to handle upwards of
12,000,000 requests to a single pentium box, (single cpu/nothing
extravagent). Well, that's my two cents, drop me a line once you've
reached a buck will you?


-- 
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Brennan W Stehling wrote:
> 
> News site http://daily.daemonnews.org/ is pointing to a Yahoo! article
> about a clustering system which is being bundled with FreeBSD 4.0 now.
> The link is below.
> 
> How well does clustering work?  Is it very hard to set up?  How does the
> failover work when I have multiple machines?  Do they somehow share an IP?
> 
> The reason I am concerned is that I manage a website which will be getting
> much more traffic now that we have a large advertising budget.  As the
> site gets much more traffic I am thinking a single FreeBSD box may not
> cut it and I would have to do either a dual pentium or round-robin dns
> much like sites like cnn.com do now.
> 
> What other options do I have besides clustering?  How about channeling
> services through a single server with NAT to route to dns, web and mail
> traffic which I can dynamically route as needed?  Just a little over my
> head.
> 
> Anyone have any experience here?  Any insights?
> 
> http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/000501/ca_polyser_1.html
> 
> Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin
> projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com
> 
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Does FreeBSD support the TCP-MD5 socket option?

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There's definitely no other machine on my network with the same IP address. I thought that the 192.168.1.* were reserved for internal networks, so is it possible for some machine outside with the same IP to be causing my troubles?

Here's a little sketch of my network:
________
|FreeBSD|------Nic 1---> DSL --> Internet
|       |                __________
_________------Nic 2 --->| HUB     |
                         __________
                          ^ ^
________                  | |
|FreeBSD|------------------ |
|________|                  |
(problem machine)           |
                            |
_________                   |
|Win 95 |-------------------
_________

There's another Windows machine going into the hub.

In all I've got four machines, with the following IP addresses:
192.168.1.1
192.168.1.2
192.168.1.3
192.168.1.4 (the problem machine)

>If there were a duplicate on the local network, I'd >expect FBSD to
>complain
>about that (but maybe it wouldn't).  Arpwatch (in the >ports) would
>certainly

>detect that on the local network.

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Ken Marx wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html used to allow
> searche results to be sorted by date. Is there some reason
> this has been disabled, and/or way we could have this feature
> restored?
> 
> Thanks,
> k
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Got me. I don't recall search by date. What I do is go to the
archives; http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/  and start; which works ok.

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On Thu, 11 May 2000, Nathan Vidican wrote:

> There are many different ways you can approach this. I'll give you my
> two suggestions, but I'd be curious as to what you do end up using? 
> 	First off- (this is something we actually implement) you could use a
> managed hub to  setup resilient port pools, wherein two identical
> mirrored machines (both assuming the same IP address) are connected to
> say port one, and port 12 of the hub; when the hub detects a loss of
> link, or a poor link status (user defined 'poor'), it disconnects one
> machine and connects the other. We're utilizing this concept on our
> radius boxes, because it allows us to reboot them daily without any
> interuption in service (one at noon, one at midnight kinda deal).

	Okay, just a question but how do you have the machines mirrored?


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On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 07:24:08AM -0500, Conrad Sabatier wrote:
> 
> On 10-May-00 Mark Ovens wrote:
> >   # cd /usr/ports/www/mozilla-fonts
>                     ^^^
> s/www/x11-fonts/
> 

OK, I'll compromise, it's in both:

% find /usr/ports -name mozilla-fonts
/usr/ports/www/mozilla-fonts
/usr/ports/x11-fonts/mozilla-fonts
% 

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thursday@altavista.net wrote:
> 
> There's definitely no other machine on my network with the same IP address. I 
> thought that the 192.168.1.* were reserved for internal networks, so is it possible 
> for some machine outside with the same IP to be causing my troubles?

If your provider doesn't have things configured correctly, it is possible
for 
reserved IP numbers to be leaking onto your line.  Some providers are
notorious 
for doing that. I don't know how likely that is with DSL.

If your FreeBSD gateway system is doing NAT (and is correctly configured),
then 
this explanation doesn't work anyway, because the address(es) you expose
to the 
outside world is (are) not the 192.168 address.  Perhaps it could be a
sign that 
your NAT is misconfigured.

-- Bob

> 
> Here's a little sketch of my network:
> ________
> |FreeBSD|------Nic 1---> DSL --> Internet
> |       |                __________
> _________------Nic 2 --->| HUB     |
>                          __________
>                           ^ ^
> ________                  | |
> |FreeBSD|------------------ |
> |________|                  |
> (problem machine)           |
>                             |
> _________                   |
> |Win 95 |-------------------
> _________
> 
> 
> -- Bob

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That seems like a lot of work,

% echo http://www.domain.com/www.blah/html.asp | perl -ne 'print $1,"\n" if
m|http://www\.([^/]+)|i'
domain.com

This will work with a big list of URLs on stdin.

Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitch Collinsworth [mailto:mkc@Graphics.Cornell.EDU]
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Subject: Re: regexp driving me nuts, help needed! 



>I need to get the domain and tld from an url.
>
>this my idea of what would match and return 'domain.com':
>echo http://www.domain.com/html.asp | sed -e
's/\([\.a-zA-Z0-9]+[a-zA-Z]{2,3}\
>)/\1 /g'
>
>But that's not what sh thinks ( it returns the whole url )
>What regexp should I use to get the desired result?

Here's a perl 1-liner:

echo http://www.domain.com/html.asp |\
 perl -e '$u=<>; $u=~s/http:\/\///; $u=~s/^www.//i; $u=~s/\/.*$//; print $u'
domain.com

This works in stages, so it doesn't depending on the starting string
always containing all syntactical elements.

-Mitch


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GlacierCan't compile librsaintl because I'm getting a

>> Checksum mismatch for librsaintl/rsa_err.c.

If I make with NO CHECKSUM, I get:

Warning: Object directory not changed from original
/usr/ports/security/librsaintl/work
cc -O -pipe -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -DNO_IDEA -DL_ENDIAN -DDEVRANDOM=\"/dev/
urandom\" -c rsa_err.c -o rsa_err.o
rsa_err.c:77: `RSA_F_RSA_NULL' undeclared here (not in a function)
rsa_err.c:77: initializer element is not constant
rsa_err.c:77: (near initialization for `RSA_str_functs[8].error')
rsa_err.c:115: `RSA_R_INVALID_MESSAGE_LENGTH' undeclared here (not in a
function)
rsa_err.c:115: initializer element is not constant
rsa_err.c:115: (near initialization for `RSA_str_reasons[16].error')
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a function)
rsa_err.c:124: initializer element is not constant
rsa_err.c:124: (near initialization for `RSA_str_reasons[25].error')
*** Error code 1


Thoughts?


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Glacier






Can't compile librsaintl because =
I'm getting=20
a 


 


>> Checksum mismatch for=20
librsaintl/rsa_err.c.


 


If I make with NO CHECKSUM, I=20
get:


 


Warning: Object directory not =
changed from=20
original /usr/ports/security/librsaintl/work
cc -O -pipe -DTERMIOS=20
-DANSI_SOURCE -DNO_IDEA -DL_ENDIAN -DDEVRANDOM=3D\"/dev/urandom\" -c =
rsa_err.c -o=20
rsa_err.o
rsa_err.c:77: `RSA_F_RSA_NULL' undeclared here (not in a=20
function)
rsa_err.c:77: initializer element is not =
constant
rsa_err.c:77:=20
(near initialization for `RSA_str_functs[8].error')
rsa_err.c:115:=20
`RSA_R_INVALID_MESSAGE_LENGTH' undeclared here (not in a=20
function)
rsa_err.c:115: initializer element is not=20
constant
rsa_err.c:115: (near initialization for=20
`RSA_str_reasons[16].error')
rsa_err.c:124:=20
`RSA_R_RSA_OPERATIONS_NOT_SUPPORTED' undeclared here (not in a=20
function)
rsa_err.c:124: initializer element is not=20
constant
rsa_err.c:124: (near initialization for=20
`RSA_str_reasons[25].error')
*** Error code 1


 


Thoughts?


 


 


Robert Hof


President, CEO




 


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Hi,

Can anyone recommend a free, decent tool for monitoring the
incoming/outgoing bandwidth on my machine. I'm after one which will give a
graphical/web interface so I can tell whats been happening at a quick
glance. I'd also (if its possible) like to monitor what users make use of
the bandwidth, so I can slap the wrists of people who download hundreds of
megabytes of stuff.

I saw a few on the packages list when I install fBSD but there wasn't much
of a description with any of them, and I'd rather hear peoples opinion the
software if possible.

Thanks,
Andy.



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On Thu, 11 May 2000, Marius Vincent wrote:

> 
> BSD
> 
> Could somebody please tell me the difference between NetBSD, OpenBSD,
> FreeBSD and BSDI.

http://www.bsd.org/

> 
> 
> What happens if you get scared half to death twice?
> 
> Marius Vincent
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On Thu, 11 May 2000, Rob Carmichael wrote:

> I get this when i run "whereis":
> 
> bash-2.03$ whereis gmatrix
> Warning: couldn't stat file /usr/X11R6/man!
> gmatrix:
> 
> Any ideas ?

Add /usr/X11R6/man to your MANPATH, perhaps?

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MRTG is a good one. Or you can use ntop.

Keith



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On Thu, 11 May 2000, Andy Coates wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Can anyone recommend a free, decent tool for monitoring the
> incoming/outgoing bandwidth on my machine. I'm after one which will give a
> graphical/web interface so I can tell whats been happening at a quick
> glance. I'd also (if its possible) like to monitor what users make use of
> the bandwidth, so I can slap the wrists of people who download hundreds of
> megabytes of stuff.
> 
> I saw a few on the packages list when I install fBSD but there wasn't much
> of a description with any of them, and I'd rather hear peoples opinion the
> software if possible.
> 
> Thanks,
> Andy.
> 
> 
> 
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>That seems like a lot of work,
>
>% echo http://www.domain.com/www.blah/html.asp | perl -ne 'print $1,"\n" if
>m|http://www\.([^/]+)|i'
>domain.com
>
>This will work with a big list of URLs on stdin.

But only as long as they all have "www." in the domain name:

% echo http://domain.com/www.blah/html.asp | perl -ne 'print $1,"\n" if
m|http://www\.([^/]+)|i'
%

Woops.  I guess mine is more flexible:

% echo http://domain.com/www.blah/html.asp |\
 perl -e '$u=<>; $u=~s/http:\/\///; $u=~s/^www.//i; $u=~s/\/.*$//; print $u'
domain.com


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Hi,
My gateway system is running nat, and...I think it's configured correctly; basically I just followed all the steps in the manpage; it's always worked w/o any problems--basically I just start it with natd -interface rl0 & boom it goes (no firewall, though--no matter what I do, when I have the firewall activated, nat doesn't work--i've been saving that for another email). But the only address exposed is the external one, as far as I can tell...

Thanks! 



>If your FreeBSD gateway system is doing NAT (and is >correctly configured),
>then
>this explanation doesn't work anyway, because the >address(es) you expose
>to the
>outside world is (are) not the 192.168 address.  
>Perhaps it could be a
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We're getting ready to put some serious money into a new database server and
wanted some opinions on a few possible hardware choices.

First, is anyone using FreeBSD (4.0) with 4 x86 processors? If so, what
motherboard are you using?

Is anyone using any of the AMI (www.ami.com) Quad motherboards?

Thanks!!

-Mitch



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hello, i understand that the x windows system comes built-in to bsd
when you install. how do i go about installing this?? (a step by step
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hello,
i was wondering two things,  one how inthe world do you unzip a file,
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You will need 4 Xeon processors to do the 4 way SMP.  I do not believe
there is a database that runs native on FreeBSD and not through emulation
what would even be able to take advantage of all that processing
power.  There seems to be very little documentation on FreeBSD's ability
to run Oracle.  Perhaps the money that you were going to invest in
processing power would be better spent on some raid or ram.

-Chris Phillips

On Thu, 11 May 2000, Mitch Vincent wrote:

> We're getting ready to put some serious money into a new database server and
> wanted some opinions on a few possible hardware choices.
> 
> First, is anyone using FreeBSD (4.0) with 4 x86 processors? If so, what
> motherboard are you using?
> 
> Is anyone using any of the AMI (www.ami.com) Quad motherboards?
> 
> Thanks!!
> 
> -Mitch
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> 
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I installed FreeBSD 3.2, X server 4.0 and Netscape 4.51,
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There is going to be plenty spent there too..

Oracle only natively runs on Linux, Solaris and NT. It's actually in the
license that you can't run it on anything else.

PostgreSQL is going to be the database used..

I'm getting one of these motherboards because we've already purchased a
large amount of SDRAM and don't want to use Intel's RDRAM hack on their new
i840 chipsets.. We need 64-bit PCI slots for these Ultra 160 SCSI drives and
controllers (Yum!).

Anyway.. Thanks!

-Mitch

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Phillips 
To: Mitch Vincent 
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Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 4:28 PM
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> You will need 4 Xeon processors to do the 4 way SMP.  I do not believe
> there is a database that runs native on FreeBSD and not through emulation
> what would even be able to take advantage of all that processing
> power.  There seems to be very little documentation on FreeBSD's ability
> to run Oracle.  Perhaps the money that you were going to invest in
> processing power would be better spent on some raid or ram.
>
> -Chris Phillips
>
> On Thu, 11 May 2000, Mitch Vincent wrote:
>
> > We're getting ready to put some serious money into a new database server
and
> > wanted some opinions on a few possible hardware choices.
> >
> > First, is anyone using FreeBSD (4.0) with 4 x86 processors? If so, what
> > motherboard are you using?
> >
> > Is anyone using any of the AMI (www.ami.com) Quad motherboards?
> >
> > Thanks!!
> >
> > -Mitch
> >
> >
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Oh, one more thing..

Why would I need XEON processors? The only differenced between those and
other PIII's is the full speed cache (and more of it usually), right?

*shrug* not really sure. The motherboards say they support PIII/XEON, so I
was wondering what your logic was behind what you said.

As far as the database using all 4 processors, any threaded program *could*
use them, couldn't they?

*shrug* I'm a total newbie with multi-processor systems, I've never had
anything big enough to need one so some of what I said could be totaly
wrong.. Please, feel free to school me :-)

-Mitch

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> You will need 4 Xeon processors to do the 4 way SMP.  I do not believe
> there is a database that runs native on FreeBSD and not through emulation
> what would even be able to take advantage of all that processing
> power.  There seems to be very little documentation on FreeBSD's ability
> to run Oracle.  Perhaps the money that you were going to invest in
> processing power would be better spent on some raid or ram.
>
> -Chris Phillips
>
> On Thu, 11 May 2000, Mitch Vincent wrote:
>
> > We're getting ready to put some serious money into a new database server
and
> > wanted some opinions on a few possible hardware choices.
> >
> > First, is anyone using FreeBSD (4.0) with 4 x86 processors? If so, what
> > motherboard are you using?
> >
> > Is anyone using any of the AMI (www.ami.com) Quad motherboards?
> >
> > Thanks!!
> >
> > -Mitch
> >
> >
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Hi.
I recently install the freebsd 2.2 release in my
office
(ridjal computers co)
I intended to recommend it to my customers but a
little
problem arises........
the atapi cd rom can't be recognised (after searching
in your website, it says that some/almost atapi's
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It can boot with cdrom (the installation part) but
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Can you please help.. almost all my customer use
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Thu May 11 13:47:28 2000
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I'm not not a guru either.  However, PIII processors will only do 2 way
processing.  Meaning, you can only use 2.  To get 4 way on x86, you must
use Xeon.  I also know that FreeBSD does not do SMP very well as opposed
to it's counterparts.  We use FreeBSD for our webservers and openbsd for
our firewalls and unfortuneatly Suns for our databases because of their
support for Oracle as well as the ability to have 8+ processors.  Like I
said before, would this money not be better spent on ram and raid?  =)

-Chris Phillips

On Thu, 11 May 2000, Mitch Vincent wrote:

> Oh, one more thing..
> 
> Why would I need XEON processors? The only differenced between those and
> other PIII's is the full speed cache (and more of it usually), right?
> 
> *shrug* not really sure. The motherboards say they support PIII/XEON, so I
> was wondering what your logic was behind what you said.
> 
> As far as the database using all 4 processors, any threaded program *could*
> use them, couldn't they?
> 
> *shrug* I'm a total newbie with multi-processor systems, I've never had
> anything big enough to need one so some of what I said could be totaly
> wrong.. Please, feel free to school me :-)
> 
> -Mitch
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chris Phillips 
> To: Mitch Vincent 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 4:28 PM
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD SMP
> 
> 
> > You will need 4 Xeon processors to do the 4 way SMP.  I do not believe
> > there is a database that runs native on FreeBSD and not through emulation
> > what would even be able to take advantage of all that processing
> > power.  There seems to be very little documentation on FreeBSD's ability
> > to run Oracle.  Perhaps the money that you were going to invest in
> > processing power would be better spent on some raid or ram.
> >
> > -Chris Phillips
> >
> > On Thu, 11 May 2000, Mitch Vincent wrote:
> >
> > > We're getting ready to put some serious money into a new database server
> and
> > > wanted some opinions on a few possible hardware choices.
> > >
> > > First, is anyone using FreeBSD (4.0) with 4 x86 processors? If so, what
> > > motherboard are you using?
> > >
> > > Is anyone using any of the AMI (www.ami.com) Quad motherboards?
> > >
> > > Thanks!!
> > >
> > > -Mitch
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Hello everyone,

Unfortunatly today my old Thinkpad 600e mouse went on the fritz.  I pulled
one of our new 600x models out and installed 4.0 -stable.  Everything is
great but Xfree86 does not support the 256ZX chipset yet.  Does anyone
have any idea how I could get X up on my machine until this is supported?

Thanks

Chris

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Hi.

I have a smart host defined in my sendmail.cf file:

DSuucp-uudom:foo.bar

On the LAN FBSD uses uucp/rmail with good effect. 

Yet when I write mail to a box off the LAN I am unable to pass the 
mail to the smart host. 
sendmail -q -v:

 addr.com: name server timed out
 transient parse error...message queued for future delivery

Now, uucp is conf'd to use eth0 (Any TCP - -) in my HDB files.
And local mail is passed no problem via the NIC...

Yet, offsite mail sits in a queue and the future only arrives when
I connect to an ISP via tun0 then mail bound for the local smarthost
is finally handed off - to uucp - for rmail delivery.  Humourous but 
not practical.

How can I force this box to hand the job to the smart host right
away instead of waiting for my ISP name servers to become available?

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Hello,

	I've been trying to mount Linux partitions under
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There are I believe a couple of links from the linux on laptop page that
points to people who have set up info web sites with config files for
download on both XFree86 3.x and 4.0. I personally run the stinpad 600x with
FreeBSD 4.0 XFree86 4.0 flawlessly (I haven't resolved the issues with
networking yet :-( but the screen and input devices work fine.
Have fun,

Laurent
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To: "FreeBSD Questions List" 
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> Hello everyone,
>
> Unfortunatly today my old Thinkpad 600e mouse went on the fritz.  I pulled
> one of our new 600x models out and installed 4.0 -stable.  Everything is
> great but Xfree86 does not support the 256ZX chipset yet.  Does anyone
> have any idea how I could get X up on my machine until this is supported?
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
>
> ---
> Christopher T. Griffiths
> Quansoo Group Inc.
> cgriffiths@quansoo.com
>
>
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Where can I download the disk image of the latest version of FreeBSD?

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Okay, I am having a problem that I don't understand, and I believe that
it is in some way related to our internal FreeBSD firewall.  This firewall
was
put in place by a vendor that we are no longer doing business with, and I
am very much a newbie to FreeBSD, so there may be something obvious here
that I am missing, but let me explain what is happening.



  |-----------------------|
  |       Internet                |
  |-----------------------|


  208.60.70.x    205.198.90.x
  |---------|      |---------|
  | FreeBSD |      | FreeBSD |
  |---------|      |---------|
  192.168.3.x    192.168.0.x

|-----------------|     |-----------------|
| Private Network |     | Private Network |
|-----------------|     |-----------------|

    |--------|      |-------------| |-------------|
    | Client |      | FTP Server1 | | FTP Server2 |
    |--------|      |-------------| |-------------|

192.168.3.x Address     205.198.90.x    205.198.90.x+1  ---> "Public"
Address
       192.168.0.2     192.168.0.6     --->  Private Address

Okay, I am trying to connect to FTP Server 2, and I am having real trouble
from my client piece.  Here is what happens.  I open a connection, and
get prompted for a user name, then a password.  I am authenticated properly,
and brought to the system prompt.  However, if I issue a dir or ls or get or
anything else, the server accepts the command, says opening port for blah
blah,
then just appears to stop responding.  If I am using the Microsoft client
from
the command prompt, I actually have to end DOS box, as the client will not
ctrl-c break.  The interesting thing is that I can connect to Server 1
without
a single problem.  I can get files without issue.  And here is the other
interesting part.  Anyone from other Internet connections can FTP to Server
2 without ANY trouble, so it would appear to be something that MY firewall
is doing where my client is located.  I have waxed every IPFW rule, and am
running with the very basic rule set on my client end:

00010 divert 8668 ip from any to any via fxp0
00015 allow ip from any to any

This is the ONLY thing that is not working, and I am COMPLETELY baffled.
Oh, and I can't FTP to Server 2 from the FreeBSD console either.
HELP PLEASE!  I really need to get this working, but I don't know what
is going on.  I can send tcpdump logs from both FreeBSD firewalls, from both
"public" and "private" addresses if this is helpful.

If this is confusing, please let me know and I can clarify.




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On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 11:20:17AM -0400, Forrest Aldrich wrote:

> I'm looking into working with CCD.  Is there a HOW-TO in the manual, I
> didn't find one on freebsd.org.
>
> It's not clear to me:
>
> In order to compile in support for the ccd, you must add a line
> similar to the following to your kernel configuration file:
>
>         pseudo-device ccd 4 # concatenated disk devices
>
>   The count argument is how many ccds memory is allocated for a boot
>   time.  In this example, no more than 4 ccds may be configured.
>
> whether this "ccds memory" and such refers to the number of actual
> physical /dev/ paritions or it's referring to the number of "ccds" as
> in the pseudo devices themselves.

The kernel config line you mention means that the kernel will support
a maximum of 4 ccd devices, and they would be /dev/ccd0, /dev/ccd1,
/dev/ccd2, and /dev/ccd3. Of course you have to make the dev entries
with MAKEDEV.

Also, you could use the ccd kernel module instead of recompiling a
kernel.  Actually, the next two sentences of the man page following your
quote above mention that so you probably already knew that.

HTH

-- 
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	"Rob Carmichael" 
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> On Thu, 11 May 2000, Rob Carmichael wrote:
>
> > I get this when i run "whereis":
> >
> > bash-2.03$ whereis gmatrix
> > Warning: couldn't stat file /usr/X11R6/man!
> > gmatrix:
> >
> > Any ideas ?
>
> Add /usr/X11R6/man to your MANPATH, perhaps?

Nice try.

What is means is the the directory /usr/X11R6/man does not exist.  It is
most likely in your startup files.  'whereis' will search all the
directories in your path as well as a couple more depending on what your
particular PATH variable looks like.

I would suggest you go back to your src dir and look at where the command
should be installed and make sure that directory is in your path.  The above
dir is pretty much a standard.  I am gonna make a guess.  Either X is not
installed, or it was installed in a non-standard location.  You need to
change your path to include the X directories.

Harold



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Sefkan Botani wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
>         I've been trying to mount Linux partitions under
> FreeBSD and have not (yet) been succesful.  If anyone's
> managed to do so, please e-mail me to tell me how.
> 
> thanks in advance,
> -Sefkan
> 
Sefkan,
Do you have "options	EXT2FS" in your kernel?
Also, what's the command line you're using trying to mount it?
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* Chris Phillips  [000511 13:57] wrote:
> You will need 4 Xeon processors to do the 4 way SMP.  I do not believe
> there is a database that runs native on FreeBSD and not through emulation
> what would even be able to take advantage of all that processing
> power.  There seems to be very little documentation on FreeBSD's ability
> to run Oracle.  Perhaps the money that you were going to invest in
> processing power would be better spent on some raid or ram.
> 

Postgresql will.

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On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 05:11:19PM -0400, Steffen Vorrix wrote:
> 
> Okay, I am trying to connect to FTP Server 2, and I am having real
> trouble from my client piece.  Here is what happens.  I open a
> connection, and get prompted for a user name, then a password.  I am
> authenticated properly, and brought to the system prompt.  However,
> if I issue a dir or ls or get or anything else, the server accepts
> the command, says opening port for blah blah, then just appears to
> stop responding.


Use the 'passive' command in your client.

	ftp> help passive
	passive         enter passive transfer mode

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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention.  The 205.198.90.x address has a reverse DNS
entry, but the 205.198.90.x+1 does not.  Would this be causing any of the
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Whooops... Should have mentioned that.  Passive mode behaves exactly the
same way...

----- Original Message -----
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> On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 05:11:19PM -0400, Steffen Vorrix wrote:
> >
> > Okay, I am trying to connect to FTP Server 2, and I am having real
> > trouble from my client piece.  Here is what happens.  I open a
> > connection, and get prompted for a user name, then a password.  I am
> > authenticated properly, and brought to the system prompt.  However,
> > if I issue a dir or ls or get or anything else, the server accepts
> > the command, says opening port for blah blah, then just appears to
> > stop responding.
>
>
> Use the 'passive' command in your client.
>
> ftp> help passive
> passive         enter passive transfer mode
>
> - giorgos keramidas
>



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On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 05:26:18PM -0400, Steffen Vorrix wrote:
> Whooops... Should have mentioned that.  Passive mode behaves exactly
> the same way...

Well, without the actual firewall rules, I can't say much more.
Can you post the rules printed on the two freebsd machines by:

	# ipfw show

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Here is the client side firewall ruleset:

00010 1047807  694950842 divert 8668 ip from any to any via fxp0
00015 2106420 1391179792 allow ip from any to any
65535       4        630 deny ip from any to any

I have also opened up the server side completely with the following ruleset.

00010  63013227 25044329410 divert 8668 ip from any to any via fxp0
65000 119486149 49311863501 allow ip from any to any
65535         0           0 deny ip from any to any

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> On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 05:26:18PM -0400, Steffen Vorrix wrote:
> > Whooops... Should have mentioned that.  Passive mode behaves exactly
> > the same way...
>
> Well, without the actual firewall rules, I can't say much more.
> Can you post the rules printed on the two freebsd machines by:
>
> # ipfw show
>
> - giorgos keramidas
>



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thursday@altavista.net wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> My gateway system is running nat, and...I think it's configured correctly; 
> basically I just followed all the steps in the manpage; it's always worked 
> w/o any problems--basically I just start it with natd -interface rl0 & boom 
> it goes (no firewall, though--no matter what I do, when I have the firewall 
> activated, nat doesn't work--i've been saving that for another email). But 
> the only address exposed is the external one, as far as I can tell...

Well, if NAT and your firewall don't work together, then private IP
leakage 
is still plausible.  It does sound like a long shot, though.

I think the easiest way to test this idea would be to swap IP numbers 
between the system that has problems and one of the systems that never has 
problems. If the problem moves with the IP number, then it is almost 
certainly leakage through your gateway (and your ISP's routers).

It would also be very informative to set up tcpdump (or similar) to
monitor 
both your internal network and the link to your ISP, and watch what REALLY 
happens when you try to ping the system and it doesn't respond.

Another approach would be to concentrate on the firewall vs. NAT problem 
for a while and see if fixing it magically fixes this problem as well ;)

-- Bob

> 
> >If your FreeBSD gateway system is doing NAT (and is >correctly configured),
> >then
> >this explanation doesn't work anyway, because the >address(es) you expose
> >to the
> >outside world is (are) not the 192.168 address.
> >Perhaps it could be a
> >sign that
> >your NAT is misconfigured.

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From: "Christopher T. Griffiths" 
To: FreeBSD Questions List 
Cc: Laurent de Segur 
Subject: Re: Neomagic 256ZX and Thinkpad 600x
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Ok, 

Got X working and here is how:

Under XF86Config choose the NEOMAGIC Card and choose to set the properties
and set the Memory to 4mb.  Also select the driver NM2200.  

Thats it.  Hope this helps all you others with this laptop.

Chris


On Thu, 11 May 2000, Laurent de Segur wrote:

> There are I believe a couple of links from the linux on laptop page that
> points to people who have set up info web sites with config files for
> download on both XFree86 3.x and 4.0. I personally run the stinpad 600x with
> FreeBSD 4.0 XFree86 4.0 flawlessly (I haven't resolved the issues with
> networking yet :-( but the screen and input devices work fine.
> Have fun,
> 
> Laurent
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christopher T. Griffiths" 
> To: "FreeBSD Questions List" 
> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 11:57 AM
> Subject: Neomagic 256ZX and Thinkpad 600x
> 
> 
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > Unfortunatly today my old Thinkpad 600e mouse went on the fritz.  I pulled
> > one of our new 600x models out and installed 4.0 -stable.  Everything is
> > great but Xfree86 does not support the 256ZX chipset yet.  Does anyone
> > have any idea how I could get X up on my machine until this is supported?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > ---
> > Christopher T. Griffiths
> > Quansoo Group Inc.
> > cgriffiths@quansoo.com
> >
> >
> >



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Brad...

Just for grins, I tried that... I keep forgetting to post all the things
that I have tried... :)  I created entried for both client side and server
side firewalls in the respective hosts file.  When looking at the headers
with tcpdump, I could see that the host information did infact come from the
hosts file with the information that I added.  But it still hung AFTER I
logged in, which got me thinking... If it were timing out, it should do it
before I ever log in, right?  I shoulnd't even be able to connect, right?

Steffen

----- Original Message -----
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To: "Steffen Vorrix" 
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 5:34 PM
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> Steffen,
>
> I think you've hit the nail on the head.  I'm guessing that your ftp
> server is timing out trying to lookup the name for Server 2's IP when it
> opens the FTP data connection to the Client.  I don't know if adding an
> entry in your client's /etc/hosts would work, but if it doesn't add the
> entry to your dns servers and see how it goes.
>
> Steffen Vorrix wrote:
> >
> > Oh yeah, I forgot to mention.  The 205.198.90.x address has a reverse
DNS
> > entry, but the 205.198.90.x+1 does not.  Would this be causing any of
the
> > problems?
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From: "tom@doitagain" 


Is there an iso file I can download Danny?
Thanks for your quick response.
Tom
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Danny 
  To: tom@doitagain ; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG 
  Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 11:10 PM
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  Hello,

  Firstly you need to create the 2 boot up floppy disk. I think www.freebsd.org
  has step by step instruction. Then boot up using those floppies

  When they prompt you for the media just select FTP and it will do everything
  for you automatically.

  This should take awhile

  But I suggest you purchase a copy of FreeBSD 4 CD instead. Assuming you live in
  New Zeland you can proably order a copy of FreeBSD from
  www.everythinglinux.com.au or whatever.

  On Thu, 11 May 2000, tom@doitagain.co.nz wrote:
  > >%_Hi, I would like to try freebsd for myself. I have looked through your ftp site but I don't know what to download to have the whole OS.
  > Could you please advise what I need to look for?
  > Regards
  > Tom
  > 

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Tom


  
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While I appreciate everyone's response (and I do, very much) no one actually
answered either of my questions specifically.

Will FreeBSD handle 4 processors?

If so, is anyone on-list using FreeBSD with 4 (or more) processors.

Thanks guys!

-Mitch

----- Original Message -----
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>
> > We're getting ready to put some serious money into a new database server
and
> > wanted some opinions on a few possible hardware choices.
> >
> > First, is anyone using FreeBSD (4.0) with 4 x86 processors? If so, what
> > motherboard are you using?
> >
> > Is anyone using any of the AMI (www.ami.com) Quad motherboards?
>
> This depends on the size of databases, but I personally would
> rather run multiple machines with load sharing then quad or even dual
> machines... because most of your load is going to be on the hard
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Gheorghe Ardelean wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> can I install FreeBSD 4.0R on a IBM PS/2 Model 65SX with 8MB Ram
> and 2 SCSI HDD of 120MB each?
> 
> The netowrk card is an WD8003 and the SCSI Controller is Based on Adaptec
> AIC-6250EL.
> 
> regards,
> 
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> 
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NetBSD has a patch for their software that "should" work for MCA.

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/05/06/1836253
http://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2000/05/02/0021.html
http://www.ics.muni.cz/~dolecek/NetBSD/MCA/
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Perhaps this belongs on freebsd-newbies.

Using Linux, I can type 'man -l ' to pick up a local man page.

(By "local", I mean man page is in pwd).

How can I do that with FreeBSD man command ?

I've tried ... man -M  

But it doesn't work.

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After using FreeBSD and BSDI for 3 years I never knew BSD is Berkley Software
Distribution. Thought it was Berkely System Design.

Looking forward to your feedback.

dannyh
dannyh@idx.com.au

On Thu, 11 May 2000, Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
> > Berkely System Design
> > You could have found that out at www.whatis.com if you wanted.
> 
> But that's not correct. It's "Berkeley Software Distribution".
> BSDI stands for Berkeley Software Design, Inc.
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The best way to do that is to modify your /root/.login file like so

# Bypassing the proxy
setenv FTP_PROXY 

NOw you shouldn't have any problems with ports and firewall.



On Thu, 11 May 2000, Jim wrote:
> Hi all:
> 
> Is there a way to get ports to retrieve files when you are behind a
> firewall/proxy.
> 
> I have asked this before, but the best I got was a reference to passive 
> mode in ftp. 
> 
> I could never figure this out. Am I supposed to edit every make file to
> use the -p for pftp command? Is there a control file that will do this?
> 
> Is there another way to get this to work?
> 
> An example would be very much appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> Jim
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 11:32:04 -0700 (PDT)
> From: todd ritzka 
> Subject: help!
> 
> hello, i understand that the x windows system comes built-in to bsd
> when you install. how do i go about installing this?? (a step by step
> would be apprechiated:)  )
> 

The X System is an option that is automatically installed if you 
ask for it during the install.  When you install FreeBSD, and it 
asks you which distribution (I think that's the word it uses) to 
install, select "X User" from the list.

It will eventually ask you which X desktop you want.  I use KDE, 
but of course, all of the other choices also have their supporters.
If you have a favorite desktop and it isn't one of the choices 
during the install, you can set it up later as part of your 
"post install configuration".  You should install your default 
X desktop before you create any user accounts, or those users 
won't have the defaults.

You will need to know the exact model or chipset of your video card, 
as well as information about what resolutions your monitor supports.

If you need more details about how to set up X, visit 
http://www.xfree86.org.  XFree86 is the same for FreeBSD and Linux, 
so Linux how-to files will help also.

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Steffen,

Your login info is transmitted over the control line.  When you issue a
command that requires output or try to GET a file, the ftp server opens
a socket back to the client, after the two have negotiated which ports
they'll use.  If it's not dns-related, I'm thinking that it might have
to do with the necessity of accepting connections to the client on high
TCP ports.

-Brad

Steffen Vorrix wrote:
> 
> Brad...
> 
> Just for grins, I tried that... I keep forgetting to post all the things
> that I have tried... :)  I created entried for both client side and server
> side firewalls in the respective hosts file.  When looking at the headers
> with tcpdump, I could see that the host information did infact come from the
> hosts file with the information that I added.  But it still hung AFTER I
> logged in, which got me thinking... If it were timing out, it should do it
> before I ever log in, right?  I shoulnd't even be able to connect, right?
> 
> Steffen
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad Waite" 
> To: "Steffen Vorrix" 
> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 5:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Firewall Problem.
> 
> > Steffen,
> >
> > I think you've hit the nail on the head.  I'm guessing that your ftp
> > server is timing out trying to lookup the name for Server 2's IP when it
> > opens the FTP data connection to the Client.  I don't know if adding an
> > entry in your client's /etc/hosts would work, but if it doesn't add the
> > entry to your dns servers and see how it goes.
> >
> > Steffen Vorrix wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh yeah, I forgot to mention.  The 205.198.90.x address has a reverse
> DNS
> > > entry, but the 205.198.90.x+1 does not.  Would this be causing any of
> the
> > > problems?
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I assume you have ran the Xwindows /with kernel source in the installation of
FreeBSD? Yes? 

Then that installation should have  give you the choice of fvwm2, fvm95, KDE,
Gnome.

Looking forward to your feedback.

On Fri, 12 May 2000, todd ritzka wrote:
> i wanted to put x windows on my computer, and i was wondering where
> in the ftp site i can download it??, and what do i have to
> download????
> 
> thanks for the help
> 
> mel
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FreeBSD as a tool called "unzip" that will let you unzip zip files.
Normally FreeBSD uses tar , gzip to do this.
Do a man tar
man gzip 


etc
etc

Looking forward to your feedback.

dannyh

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On Fri, 12 May 2000, todd ritzka wrote:
> hello,
> i was wondering two things,  one how inthe world do you unzip a file,
> and also is there any virus protection software for bsd???
>  thanks
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dear Sir/Madam:

hello!  I'm a brand freshie trying to set up FreeBSD on my Windows NT 4.0 =
machine.  I have downloaded and installed most of the components needed =
and still cannot get the fun rolling.

Two major problems so far:

when I log in as a normal user and type "startx" under my home directory, =
the graphical interface does not have any recognizable fonts.  everything =
looks like bar codes in the superstore.

secondly, here is an e-mail I received when logging in as the "root":

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dear Sir/Madam:


 


hello!  I'm a brand freshie trying to set up FreeBSD on my =
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DId you install netscape using the ports. ? You should if you didnt
Checkout www.freebsd.org/ports/ for more details.

On Fri, 12 May 2000, Terry Moore wrote:
> I installed FreeBSD 3.2, X server 4.0 and Netscape 4.51,
> but when I ran 
> Netscape(/usr/local/bin/netscape->/usr/local/netscape4.51/communicator4.51.bin) 
> from KDE,
> it showed me an error in console: /usr/local/libexec/ld.so
> cannot open(becasue it's not existed).
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On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 01:16:19PM +0200, Thomas Widlundh wrote:
>  > to change to bash permanently i do the following:
> >       chsh
> > Change the SHELL to /bin/bash or where ever you installed the binary
> 
> Thanks Rano,
> I did this, and it worked very well. But I want to set some aliases.
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> in the xterm. Is afterstep or/and xterm readning another file than the
> consol (.profile or .bash_profile)?
> Hope You'll know,
> Thomas

Bash only read .bash_profile if it is a login shell. In non-login shells
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Yeah, MRTG is pretty good... you can monitor just about anything with
it.  At one point I was watching bandwidth, apache processes, mysql
processes, load, etc...
Out of the box it's meant to monitor a router, but it's pretty easy to
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>> 
>> Can anyone recommend a free, decent tool for monitoring the
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>> graphical/web interface so I can tell whats been happening at a quick
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Is it possible to have smaller fonts in a shell without running x so that I 
can fit more text on the screen?

Thanks

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On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 10:37:45PM +0000, Robert B wrote:
> Is it possible to have smaller fonts in a shell without running x so that I 
> can fit more text on the screen?
> 

``man vidcontrol'' is your friend. Note that you will need
``font8x{8,14,16}='' in /etc/rc.conf, e.g.

font8x8="iso-8x8"
font8x14="iso-8x14"
font8x16="iso-thin-8x16"


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In the last episode (May 11), Robert B said:
> Is it possible to have smaller fonts in a shell without running x so
> that I can fit more text on the screen?

vidcontrol -f 8x8 swiss-8x8
vidcontrol 80x50

.. will get you 80x50 mode.  You can also use VGA_90x50 or VGA_90x25. 
man vidcontrol for a list of the modes you can use.

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This does not truly pertain to FreeBSD in itself, for which i do
apologize, I'm re-posting this from another list I belong too, for the
purpose of getting a larger response base.

Thanks...



Hello Everyone;


I'm putting this out in the hopes that some of you could help me in
making a decision regarding the most appropriate facility to attend with
regards to Computer Studies.

Due to many variables at the present time, it is unlikely that I will be
able to accomplish certain goals I had set my sights on, so I have
decided I may as well take the plunge and go back to school.

It is obvious to me, after spending some time reading The C Programing
Language, and the fact that cryptology has been a sort of "hobby" in a
general way, as well as my passion for computers and the technology
behind it, that grows every increasingly everyday, that there is so much
more involved with the underlying technology behind computers that I
wish to explore, and simply learning how to program in a particular
language, or any language for that matter, which in itself is quite
gratifying once the skill is learned, would not accomplish what it is I
am after learning.

So after years of back pedaling, excuses etc etc..., I'm trying to find
an appropriate facility where I may accomplish the above. So first off,
What is if any, the more "better" facility to attend?
There are all sorts of University's, Colleges and Tech Schools around
that offer everything from computer science to programing too
applications etc. etc. I have been looking at Simon Frazer U out in
Burnaby, which has a lovely location atop a mountain with a beautiful
view of the Frazer river area :), but also there are a couple "pure"
tech schools out that way, and numerous other colleges and University's
that all offer some form of computer studies. Computer Science would be
my preference if anything, but it has been so many years for me away
from a learning institute, that I'm quite sure so much has changed with
them, that I'm not in a position to make any type of "proper" choice
with regards to a more appropriate place to attend.

Secondly would be, what type of courses should I be looking at to get me
up too speed for attending such computer based courses themselves?

Any info or direction you could offer would be most welcome.

Once again, thanking you in advance;

David

PS: I've noticed, that in computer studies there is lots of writing to
be done in explaining actions or programs etc., so I figured I would
start getting into it here :)


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On Thursday, 11 May 2000 at 16:55:42 +0200, Marius Vincent wrote:
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> Could somebody please tell me the difference between NetBSD,
> OpenBSD, FreeBSD and BSDI.

http://www.lemis.com/bsdpaper.html

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On Thursday, 11 May 2000 at 11:20:17 -0400, Forrest Aldrich wrote:
> I'm looking into working with CCD.  Is there a HOW-TO in the manual,
> I didn't find one on freebsd.org.

No.

> It's not clear to me:
>
> In order to compile in support for the ccd, you must add a line similar
>       to the following to your kernel configuration file:
>
>             pseudo-device  ccd  4    # concatenated disk devices
>
>       The count argument is how many ccds memory is allocated for a boot time.
>       In this example, no more than 4 ccds may be configured.
>
> whether this "ccds memory" and such refers to the number of actual
> physical /dev/ paritions or it's referring to the number of "ccds"
> as in the pseudo devices themselves.

It's the number of pseudo devices.  You can create as many ccd device
nodes as you want, even if ccd isn't installed.

Why are you looking at ccd and not at vinum?

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> While I appreciate everyone's response (and I do, very much) no one actually
> answered either of my questions specifically.
> 
> Will FreeBSD handle 4 processors?
> 
> If so, is anyone on-list using FreeBSD with 4 (or more) processors.

Yes; we have a couple of 4-way Xeon systems here. 

However, I would suggest that before you go blowing an enormous wad of 
money on hardware, you actually consider benchmarking your application 
and working out what you really need.

I know it's trendy in the PC world to buy the biggest box you can, but 
this is actually pretty stupid.

Just think; the money you might save could probably send you on a very 
nice holiday.  (Or maybe your boss - can't win them all, I guess.)

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> Oh, one more thing..
> 
> Why would I need XEON processors? The only differenced between those and
> other PIII's is the full speed cache (and more of it usually), right?

You can't run more than two PII or PIII processors in a system.

> *shrug* not really sure. The motherboards say they support PIII/XEON, so I
> was wondering what your logic was behind what you said.

"PIII/Xeon" means "Pentium-III Xeon processor", not "PIII or Xeon 
processors".

> As far as the database using all 4 processors, any threaded program *could*
> use them, couldn't they?

Not unless it's designed to do so.  I don't believe that Postgres is/does.

> *shrug* I'm a total newbie with multi-processor systems, I've never had
> anything big enough to need one so some of what I said could be totaly
> wrong.. Please, feel free to school me :-)

Buy something smaller.  Benchmark your application, and determine what 
your performance requirements are.  Make appropriate purchasing decisions 
based on quantifiable results.

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> We're getting ready to put some serious money into a new database server and
> wanted some opinions on a few possible hardware choices.
> 
> First, is anyone using FreeBSD (4.0) with 4 x86 processors? If so, what
> motherboard are you using?

We (FreeBSD Test Labs) have hands-on experience with the Intel AD450NX, 
Intel SC450NX and Acer Altos 11000 boards.  All of these work very well, 
however you mentioned that you have a lot invested in SDRAM and all of 
these boards use EDO DIMMs.

> Is anyone using any of the AMI (www.ami.com) Quad motherboards?

You might want to talk to Kedar at ASA Computers (kedar@asacomputers.com) 
or Billy Bath at Telenet Systems (www.tesys.com), both of whom, I 
understand, have considerable experience with the AMI boards.  See my 
other messages regarding sensible purchasing, however.

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On Fri, 5 May 2000 08:15:19 -0400, "Crist J. Clark"  said:

Crist> I am trying to get AMANDA 2.3.0 to work with our tape
Crist> jukebox. To be able to control the jukebox, AMANDA needs a
Crist> "glue" program or script to be the interface between it and the
Crist> jukebox. One way to do this is via a script that uses chio(1)

I found 2.3 to be very difficult and ended up writing my own glue to
call chio. 


Crist> AMANDA 2.4.1, which is also in the ports, seems to come with a
Crist> SCSI glue program. However, the port claims to be dependent on
Crist> gnuplot which in turn claims to need X11. I do not have X11 on
Crist> this system and was not planning on putting it on. Does AMANDA
Crist> 2.4.1 _really_ need X11? Would the glue programs that come with
Crist> it work for 2.3.0?

I upgraded to 2.4.x a long while back and their chg-chio works well,
after one small fix:

*** chg-chio~	Sun Apr 30 12:24:18 2000
--- chg-chio	Thu May 11 14:33:53 2000
***************
*** 347,353 ****
  		$currentTape = 1;
  	}
  
! 	print STDERR "$currentTape $max_slot 1\n";
  	print "$currentTape $max_slot 1\n";
  	exit 0;
  }
--- 347,353 ----
  		$currentTape = 1;
  	}
  
! 	#BLOWS UP AMANDA: print STDERR "$currentTape $max_slot 1\n";
  	print "$currentTape $max_slot 1\n";
  	exit 0;
  }

The output to STDERR gets slurped by one of the amanda processes
(amtape?) as text and confuses it.  I reported this to the amanda
lists aeons ago but this buglet still exists.

Works well once you get all the amanda.conf and
host:~operator/.amandahosts stuff figured out.  Mail me at
chris@shenton.org if you want mine as a sample.


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After grappling with the BSD OS for 2days now, I feel like I've been in
the ring with Tyson.  (I'll admit it hasn't bit me yet)

The ins and outs of using ifconfig are winning most rounds.  A few
simple examples would be nice in that man page.  Setting a default
route must be a common need with ifconfig.  I was unable to parse the
retoric and devine out actual syntax.

I vowed to capture the output of `ifconfig ed0' and `ifconfig dc0' (
two nics installed) and move the files  somewhere accessable, but
made the mistake of rebooting before I did that, now the kernel is
mislaid and no bootski.   

But in short, I've used the /stand/sysinstall/ tool to access the
network setup and repeatedly set the default route there.

I've discovered if I shut down one interface, the other can ping
my static IP address, but not the gateway.  I'm on a dsl line, the
straigh ethernet kind.

Displaying the interfaces with ifconfig shows the numbers I've
installed repeatedly.  All look correct.

Once I've used fixit or whatever to get back inside I hope to post
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I'm probably missing something here.  I can convert mp3's to wav files
and burn the tracks on a CD.  The resulting CD plays just fine on
computer CD Roms, but they just refuse to play on any and I mean any
home or portable CD players.  They all say 'No Disc' when I pop it in.

Does anyone out there know how to successfully do this? 



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   The engineer who help me with my hardware installation suggested 
   that what I need to fit my wide range of SCSI devs is something 
   that conforms to the Ultra 160 standard.

   He says:

   ``We are looking for support for an Adaptec 29160 controller or any other
   Ultra160 controller.  I don't see it in the release notes for FBSD 4.0.
   Guess that's not an option.''

   So, nutshell: does 4.0 STABLE support the 29160?  Is there any
   Ultra160 support?   Anybody?  

   thanks,

   gary



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>
> I installed FreeBSD 3.2, X server 4.0 and Netscape 4.51,
> 
	I agree with the suggestion to install Netscape from the ports
   collection. That way, you will get your dependent packages installed
   as well. You will also need the LD_LIBRARY_PATH_AOUT variable set,
   and even then it might be necessary to edit the /usr/local/bin/netscape
   script to explicitely point it to the aout libraries, and not the
   ELF libraries.

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>
>    So, nutshell: does 4.0 STABLE support the 29160?  Is there any
>    Ultra160 support?   Anybody?  
> 
	From 

	/usr/src/release/texts/HARDWARE.TXT

   for 4.0 STABLE:

4.1.    Disk Controllers
----    ----------------

				o
				o
				o

Adaptec 274X/284X/2920C/294x/2950/19160/29160/3940/3950/39160
        Narrow/Wide/Twin series EISA/VLB/PCI SCSI controllers.


				o
				o
				o
							Bruce


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The LINT for 4.0-RELEASE says it supports line printers via the ulpt
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in. This is recognized by the ulpt driver as a printer, but sending
data to it doesn't work properly.

Anyone have details on setting up a USB printer, or hints/gotchas to
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 Has anyone updated the Mach-64 server to handle the addressing of the
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 I did find reference ( http://www.cse.ucsc.edu/~dkulp/fbsd/laptop.html
) to a patch someone did a year ago but the files compression seems
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Subject: RE: has someone kidnapped "sys" ?
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> I've installed identd, and it gives an example line to run in inetd.conf,
> however it suggests it should run as user "sys". The user "sys" does not
> exist on my freebsd4 system. The man page for identd says:
>
> User "sys" should have enough rights to READ the kernal but NOT
> write to it.

'sys' is an SVR4 user.  Probably 'operator' is your best alternative, as
'operator' has full filesystem read privileges.

> Any comments ? Or does anyone know who kidnapped "sys" ? Does his family
> miss him ? Was he a nice man ? etc

;-)  Depends on what you like I guess...  BSD and SVR4 are, well, different.

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I have a Pioneer 24X CD on my computer.

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> 
> /dev/cuaa0 is what FreeBSD 4.0R uses as com1, there is no ttyS0 as in linux.
> At one point I symlinked ttyS0 to cuaa0 but it made no difference.  I'm
> still stumped!!!
> 
	Is it possible you have a "getty" on com1 that is, err, "helping"
   you? I guess since you see the lights blink, you know that you have
   the right port... The other thing I would check is to see if you have
   the right baud rate set on the port. Was there anything about that in
   the camera doc? (Probably not, the software likely sets that on its
   on under Windows).

	Does gphoto have a mailing list archive that you can check?

							Bruce


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Hi,

With 3.4-STABLE code, cvsup'd on Tues May 9th, enabling -DNAMEBLOCK in
/sys/i386/boot/biosboot/Makefile breaks the build:

  ...
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  boot2 is too big
  *** Error code 2
  
  

I'd like the NAMEBLOCK feature so I can use nextboot.  Is there a new
way to boot different kernels, or am I screwed?

Thanks! :-)

Steve



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Since I moved from 3.4-stable to 4.0-stable, I am having serious problems when
it comes to printing.

I have a HP2100M (postscript). It has printed everythin I throw at it, with no
problems.

Since 4.0-s I have noticed the following :

- sometimes without any explanation, the printer just keeps blinking, as if it
was going to print something (lpq confirms there is queued stuff) and it stays
there for a very long time until the printing comes out; it doesn't matter if
it is an image or a 2 line ascii file

- other times the behaviour is normal

- when the problem happens I HAVE to restart the system as I didn't find any
other way to have printing behaviour in it's normal condition. I tried to erase
all jobs (success always here), kill lpd and starting it again - nothing of
this works, only restarting the system :(

I thought it could be something with lpd, so I installed LPRng. The problem's
the same.

Today I even tried other modes with lptcontrol (-e for instance) and I got a
reset from the system when I sent something to the printer, as if I pressed the
reset button. hooowwwww

Other times lptcontrol complained that the device was busy, even after killing
lpd and all that.

What could be wrong here ? I didn't change the configuration when I moved to 4.
Maybe I should have done something. What did I miss ?

I am not saying this is a problem since 4. Only seemed to happen since then.
Printing here is quite heavy and something like this would have been noticed.

Tkx for your help.

Joao

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I would never underestimate the capability of FreeBSD!  I would however
like to have some load balancing / failover capabilities.  I have used
the resilient link method you described below, but personnally I would
prefer to have all my machines in the "cluster" serving up web pages at
all times (this gives me the warm fuzzy that the machine will perform
properly at all times).

This may be something more for the apache developers.....  We use quite
a few M$ IIS web servers at work (I don't make all the decisions!) and
they have a "network load balancing" capability.  It looks to me like
the systems in the "cluster" use a promiscuous mode to listen for
requests on the IP assigned to the cluster and coordinate amongst
themselves as to who will service the request.  They are able to handle
failover and session states between the machines.  If I could get
something like that on FreeBSD/Apache I would be a VERY happy camper.


Scott


Nathan Vidican wrote:
> 
> There are many different ways you can approach this. I'll give you my
> two suggestions, but I'd be curious as to what you do end up using?
>         First off- (this is something we actually implement) you could use a
> managed hub to  setup resilient port pools, wherein two identical
> mirrored machines (both assuming the same IP address) are connected to
> say port one, and port 12 of the hub; when the hub detects a loss of
> link, or a poor link status (user defined 'poor'), it disconnects one
> machine and connects the other. We're utilizing this concept on our
> radius boxes, because it allows us to reboot them daily without any
> interuption in service (one at noon, one at midnight kinda deal).
>         Secondly, you could use some sort of caching system (ie squid), to
> accelerate your httpd server(s) through the user of cache-pools.
> Although descriptively shorter, this method is much more difficult to
> implement.
>         Anyhow, I think you under-estimate the capabilities of a one-machine
> webserver; Yahoo has posted reports of being able to handle upwards of
> 12,000,000 requests to a single pentium box, (single cpu/nothing
> extravagent). Well, that's my two cents, drop me a line once you've
> reached a buck will you?
> 
> --
> Nathan Vidican
> webmaster@wmptl.com
> Windsor Match Plate & Tool Ltd.
> http://www.wmptl.com/
> 
> Brennan W Stehling wrote:
> >
> > News site http://daily.daemonnews.org/ is pointing to a Yahoo! article
> > about a clustering system which is being bundled with FreeBSD 4.0 now.
> > The link is below.
> >
> > How well does clustering work?  Is it very hard to set up?  How does the
> > failover work when I have multiple machines?  Do they somehow share an IP?
> >
> > The reason I am concerned is that I manage a website which will be getting
> > much more traffic now that we have a large advertising budget.  As the
> > site gets much more traffic I am thinking a single FreeBSD box may not
> > cut it and I would have to do either a dual pentium or round-robin dns
> > much like sites like cnn.com do now.
> >
> > What other options do I have besides clustering?  How about channeling
> > services through a single server with NAT to route to dns, web and mail
> > traffic which I can dynamically route as needed?  Just a little over my
> > head.
> >
> > Anyone have any experience here?  Any insights?
> >
> > http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/000501/ca_polyser_1.html
> >
> > Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin
> > projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com
> >
> > Microsoft: Will you get a macro virus today?
> >
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I have a need to prevent certain clients, who need FTP access, from
telneting into the machines on my network. 

I have been using /etc/login.access to prohibit those users, but it is a
hassle to add an entry in every machine on the network.

Have also tried to add those users to a NIS'ed group and added the
@groupname to login.access. Login.access must only look at the user's GID,
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Is there a method for NIS'ifying the login.access file or a better method
to allow ftp access but not shell access.

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Hi everyone,
I have a 4.0-STABLE box with a  ipfw enabled.

In the kernel:
options         IPFIREWALL
options         IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE      #print information about
options         IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100    #limit verbosity

freebsd:/home/vyger> uname -a
FreeBSD freebsd.proximaautomation.com 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Tue May
  9 18:21:04 CEST 
2000     root@freebsd.proximaautomation.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/FREEBSD  i386

The problem is that ipfw, even if working, don't log me on
the screen or in /var/log/messages the rules that are triggered
(with the log keyword) like:

ipfw -q add 10000 deny log ip from any to any

on a 3.4-STABLE it works like a charm and logs everything (on 
/var/log/messages and on the console).

Perhaps I have missed something ?



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I haven't had any problems with 4.0 and the new 1u 4400R rack mounts
from Micron.

Scott


slumos@nevada.edu wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> 
> I'm sick of building servers myself just to ensure that all the
> parts in them will be supported.  Does anyone have a list (or just
> suggestions) for packaged, rackable file servers from IBM, Dell,
> etc. that work will with FreeBSD?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Steve
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Hello, 

I am getting the following error after I upgraded from 3.4 to 4.0 on my
Firewall server:

tl0: got an invalid interrupt!
tl1: got an invalid interrupt!

Network services seem ok, but it is throwing this error constantly.

It is a cvsup of 4.0 -stable as of a few days ago.  

The hardware is a compaq 1850r server with the embedded tl nic and a tl
addon card.  

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Chris

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>I'm probably missing something here.  I can convert mp3's to wav files
>and burn the tracks on a CD.  The resulting CD plays just fine on
>computer CD Roms, but they just refuse to play on any and I mean any
>home or portable CD players.  They all say 'No Disc' when I pop it in.
>
>Does anyone out there know how to successfully do this?

Are you using CD-RW discs or CD-R?  Audio-CD players typically can't read
CD-RW discs...

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>Is there any way to get FreeBSD administrator certificate ??

No.

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On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 07:37:03PM -0400, Chris Shenton wrote:
> On Fri, 5 May 2000 08:15:19 -0400, "Crist J. Clark"  said:

[snip]

> Crist> AMANDA 2.4.1, which is also in the ports, seems to come with a
> Crist> SCSI glue program. However, the port claims to be dependent on
> Crist> gnuplot which in turn claims to need X11. I do not have X11 on
> Crist> this system and was not planning on putting it on. Does AMANDA
> Crist> 2.4.1 _really_ need X11? Would the glue programs that come with
> Crist> it work for 2.3.0?
> 
> I upgraded to 2.4.x a long while back and their chg-chio works well,
> after one small fix:
> 
> *** chg-chio~	Sun Apr 30 12:24:18 2000
> --- chg-chio	Thu May 11 14:33:53 2000
> ***************
> *** 347,353 ****
>   		$currentTape = 1;
>   	}
>   
> ! 	print STDERR "$currentTape $max_slot 1\n";
>   	print "$currentTape $max_slot 1\n";
>   	exit 0;
>   }
> --- 347,353 ----
>   		$currentTape = 1;
>   	}
>   
> ! 	#BLOWS UP AMANDA: print STDERR "$currentTape $max_slot 1\n";
>   	print "$currentTape $max_slot 1\n";
>   	exit 0;
>   }
> 
> The output to STDERR gets slurped by one of the amanda processes
> (amtape?) as text and confuses it.  I reported this to the amanda
> lists aeons ago but this buglet still exists.

Whew... Thanks so much. THAT is what caused the problem. I kept
getting something like,

  # amtape daily show
  amtape: could not get changer info: 2 10

And could not figure it out. Worst part is that when I would run
amtape in gdb... It worked! For whatever reason, that line you found
worked correctly in debug; I could never find the offending code.

Well, looks like I still need some work on mine. My drive needs to be
told to eject the tape. But I think I can handle that one.

I'd also like to get chg-chio to understand I have a cleaning tape in
there.

> Works well once you get all the amanda.conf and
> host:~operator/.amandahosts stuff figured out.  Mail me at
> chris@shenton.org if you want mine as a sample.

Thanks. I'm getting there.
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On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 01:41:55PM -0700, y.pyjo yun wrote:
> Hi.
> I recently install the freebsd 2.2 release in my
> office
> (ridjal computers co)
> I intended to recommend it to my customers but a
> little
> problem arises........
> the atapi cd rom can't be recognised (after searching
> in your website, it says that some/almost atapi's
> can't be recognised; including acer oem, teradrive,
> BTC, and many other cdrom companies )
> It can boot with cdrom (the installation part) but
> when it want to start to copy file, the unrecognised
> cdroms prompts .........
> Can you please help.. almost all my customer use
> atapi's (its cheapier and easier to get)
> Thanks.

Well, 2.2 is a *very* old version of FreeBSD, and in those days ATAPI
detection was somewhat poor. Can you u/g to 3.4? ATAPI support is
*greatly* improved (only a few el cheapo CDs now seem to be a
problem).


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On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 06:33:35PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote:
> On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 07:24:08AM -0500, Conrad Sabatier wrote:
> > 
> > On 10-May-00 Mark Ovens wrote:
> > >   # cd /usr/ports/www/mozilla-fonts
> >                     ^^^
> > s/www/x11-fonts/
> > 
> 
> OK, I'll compromise, it's in both:
> 
> % find /usr/ports -name mozilla-fonts
> /usr/ports/www/mozilla-fonts
> /usr/ports/x11-fonts/mozilla-fonts
> % 
> 

I retract that! After posting I remembered that I didn't use the port
per se, I grabbed the shar in PR 17301 and used that. I put it in
/usr/ports/www coz that's where netscape lives.

sorry for the confusion :(

Jim,

If you don't have the port in x11-fonts, then either synch your ports
tree using cvsup or grab the shar from
http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=17301 but extract it to
x11-fonts :)

One other suggestion that was put forward was to re-arrange the font
order in /etc/XF86Config. You should find a section near the top
something like:

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)
#
# If you don't have a floating point coprocessor and emacs, Mosaic or other
# programs take long to start up, try moving the Type1 and Speedo directory
# to the end of this list (or comment them out).
#

#    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mozilla/:unscaled"

Try moving the 100dpi entries above the 75dpi ones (you will need to
re-start X for it to take effect IIRC).

HTH

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On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 06:16:36PM -0700, Blake Swensen wrote:

> I have a need to prevent certain clients, who need FTP access, from
> telneting into the machines on my network.
>
> I have been using /etc/login.access to prohibit those users, but it is
> a hassle to add an entry in every machine on the network.
>
> Have also tried to add those users to a NIS'ed group and added the
> @groupname to login.access. Login.access must only look at the user's
> GID, not the group file, or the NIS map for group.
>
> Is there a method for NIS'ifying the login.access file or a better
> method to allow ftp access but not shell access.

You could use rdist to distribute the login.access file. It is part of
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Well, I solved the problem the USB parallel printer adapter
problem. It was an IRQ conflict. If I disable a SCSI controller, it
works fine.

Which leaves the problem - how do I enable all the devices in my
system? And what do I do if I want to add another one?

The BIOS allows me to force the IRQ of any of the PCI slots. In the
PCI slots I have an AHC2940 (slot 4), an Intel EtherExpress (slot 2),
and a BrookTree TV tuner (slot 3). Slots 1 and 5 are empty. I believe
(not got the BIOS PCI/PnP stuff in front of me for some reason) I can
force PCI slot IRQs to any of 14, 12, 11, 10, 9, 7, 5, 4 or 3. The
ones that *aren't* PCI slots on that list are 14 (ata), 12 (psm), 11
(motherboard ahc, shared with etherexpress in slot 2), 10
(soundblaster - moved off of 5 while I was fooling with the system), 9
(usb) 7 (ppc), 3 & 4 (sio ports).


Anyone got any advice on how to shuffle the IRQs around amongst the
three PCI slots to get a system where everything works? I've attached
both dmesg output and the config file. Maybe this should be sent to
-hardware (but I'e already asked about the printer here)?

	Thanx,
	
real memory  = 268435456 (262144K bytes)
avail memory = 257372160 (251340K bytes)
Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0
IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 -> irq 0
IOAPIC #0 intpin 16 -> irq 11
IOAPIC #0 intpin 17 -> irq 5
IOAPIC #0 intpin 18 -> irq 9
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard
 cpu0 (BSP): apic id:  0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000
 cpu1 (AP):  apic id:  1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000
 io0 (APIC): apic id:  2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02f5000.
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
npx0:  on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcib0:  on motherboard
pci0:  on pcib0
pcib2:  at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1:  on pcib2
pci1:  at 0.0
isab0:  at device 7.0 on pci0
isa0:  on isab0
atapci0:  port 0xffa0-0xffaf at device 7.1 on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
uhci0:  port 0xef80-0xef9f irq 9 at device 7.2 on pci0
usb0:  on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ulpt0: Belkin Components (second entry) F5U002 Parallel printer adapter, rev 1.00/1.04, addr 2, iclass 7/1
umodem0: Diamond Multimedia Systems, Inc. SupraExpress 56e USB V.90, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 3, iclass 2/2
umodem0: data interface 1, has CM over data, has break
umodem_attach: tty_attach 0xc0cf0400
umodem_attach: make_dev: umodem0
Timecounter "PIIX"  frequency 3579545 Hz
chip1:  port 0x440-0x44f at device 7.3 on pci0
ahc0:  port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xffaff000-0xffafffff irq 11 at device 14.0 on pci0
ahc0: aic7890/91 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs
fxp0:  port 0xef40-0xef5f mem 0xff900000-0xff9fffff,0xfebff000-0xfebfffff irq 11 at device 15.0 on pci0
fxp0: Ethernet address 00:90:27:0d:f0:03
bktr0:  mem 0xfebfd000-0xfebfdfff irq 5 at device 16.0 on pci0
iicbb0:  on bti2c0
iicbus0:  on iicbb0 master-only
smbus0:  on bti2c0
bktr0: Hauppauge Model 61291 D110
Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Philips NTSC tuner, remote control.
pci0:  (vendor=0x109e, dev=0x0878) at 16.1 irq 5
ahc1:  port 0xe400-0xe4ff mem 0xffafe000-0xffafefff irq 9 at device 18.0 on pci0
ahc1: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs
pcib1:  on motherboard
pci2:  on pcib1
isa0: unexpected tag 14
fdc0:  at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
atkbdc0:  at port 0x60-0x6f on isa0
atkbd0:  irq 1 on atkbdc0
psm0:  irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
vga0:  at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
sc0:  on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200>
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
sio1: type 16550A
ppc0:  at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode
lpt0:  on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
joy0 at port 0x201 on isa0
sbc0:  at port 0x220-0x22f,0x300-0x301,0x388-0x38b irq 10 drq 0,5 on isa0
sbc0: setting card to irq 10, drq 0, 5
pcm0:  on sbc0
joy1:  at port 0x208-0x20f on isa0
unknown0:  at port 0x620-0x623 on isa0
APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery
APIC_IO: routing 8254 via IOAPIC #0 intpin 2
SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
ad0: 9765MB  [19841/16/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33
Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a
da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0:  Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da0: 8683MB (17783240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C)
cd0 at ahc1 bus 0 target 5 lun 0
cd0:  Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device 
cd0: 3.300MB/s transfers
cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present - tray closed
cd1 at ahc1 bus 0 target 6 lun 0
cd1:  Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device 
cd1: 4.629MB/s transfers (4.629MHz, offset 8)
cd1: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present
(da1:ahc1:0:4:0): SCB 0xa - timed out while idle, SEQADDR == 0xa
(da1:ahc1:0:4:0): Queuing a BDR SCB
(da1:ahc1:0:4:0): Bus Device Reset Message Sent
(da1:ahc1:0:4:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b
ahc1: Bus Device Reset on A:4. 1 SCBs aborted
da1 at ahc1 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
da1:  Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
da1: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15)
da1: 1021MB (2091050 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 1021C)

--zhwzqgM7T1
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Description: config file for the dmesg
Content-Disposition: inline;
	filename="GURU"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

#
# GURU - makes dual-Xeon workstation.
#

machine		i386
cpu		I686_CPU
ident		GURU
maxusers	32

options		INET			#InterNETworking
options		FFS			#Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options		FFS_ROOT		#FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
options		MFS			#Memory Filesystem
options 	CD9660			#ISO 9660 Filesystem
options		PROCFS			#Process filesystem
options		COMPAT_43		#Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
options		SCSI_DELAY=15000	#Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device
options		UCONSOLE		#Allow users to grab the console
options		SOFTUPDATES		#Fast disk I/O, please.
options		COMPAT_LINUX		#Linux emulation code.

# GURU-specific CPU options
options		PQ_LARGECACHE		# Xeon Pentium II here
options		CPU_FASTER_5X86_FPU	# Ah, Yup
options		NO_F00F_HACK		# Not a Pentium

# And the ones that make it SMP
options		SMP
options		APIC_IO
options		NCPU=2

device		isa
device		eisa
device		pci

device		fdc0	at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
device		fd0	at fdc0 drive 0

device		ata
device		atadisk

# SCSI bus devices
device		scbus
device		da
device		pass
device		cd
device		ahc
options		AHC_ALLOW_MEMIO		# Enables memory I/O on the AHC.

# Hauppage WinTV card support

device	bktr
device	iicbus
device	iicbb
device	smbus
# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
device		atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD
device		atkbd0  at atkbdc? irq 1 
device		psm0	at atkbdc? irq 12
device		vga0    at isa?
device		sc0     at isa?

# serial devices
device		npx0	at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13
device		sio0	at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
device		sio1	at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3

# Parallel port
device		ppc0	at isa? irq 7
device		ppbus
device		lpt

# Ethernet controller, and network devices
pseudo-device	loop
pseudo-device	ether
pseudo-device	pty	64
pseudo-device	vn	4	# VNode driver.

# Disabled options for the LAN & network
device		fxp
#options	IPFIREWALL              #firewall
#options	IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE      #print information about

# and this is the PPP  kernel
pseudo-device	tun	1

# This provides support for System V shared memory.
options		SYSVSHM
options		SYSVSEM
options		SYSVMSG

# sound cards
device		pcm
device		sbc
device		joy0 at isa? port IO_GAME

# USB devices
device	usb
device	uhci
device	ulpt
device	umodem
options	USB_DEBUG=6
options UMODEM_DEBUG=6

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George Sollish wrote:
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> On Tue, 9 May 2000, David Heller wrote:
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> > Try xnview at http://www.xnview.fr.st supports over 150 graphic formats.
> > Installs very easily to FreeBSD
> 
> Just dl'd xnview off the site, and install on my 4.0-R box fails with an
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I went to there website today and noticed the current version of xnview
is 1.14 I'm using 1.12 on 4.0-stable and it works. however I did
download the new version 1.14 and it just prints "bad version of
libformat" when I try to run it. (I did not "install" it I just unpacked
it and typed ./xnview) You might try contacting the author and see if
you can get 1.12.

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George Sollish wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 9 May 2000, David Heller wrote:
> 
> > Try xnview at http://www.xnview.fr.st supports over 150 graphic formats.
> > Installs very easily to FreeBSD
> 
> Just dl'd xnview off the site, and install on my 4.0-R box fails with an
> 'unknown system' error.  Did you get it to run on 4.0?
> 
> George E Sollish        Chief Engineer           Auto Gear Equipment
>                         Host                     Classic-FM's Listening Room
>                         Project Manager          The Payne Lake Project

I just looked at the install script and I think I see the problem It has
to do with the part where it performs uname -s to check which OS you are
installing on. You have to change the "if" test for /bin/uname -s to
/usr/bin/uname -s otherwise the install script will fail. 

Regards,

Dave


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On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 09:11:50PM +0100, David Larkin wrote:
> Hi ,
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> You may have followed my ealier tales of woe concerning
> 
> - panic : vinvalbuf: dirty bufs
> 
> - mounting old filesystem
> 
> I'm still trying to work out how to fix them but meanwhile
> 
> I have a new problem.
> 
> I re installed  3.4
> 
> Now I find my keyboard mapping is all wrong and I can't
> 
> find characters such as # | \ , at least not where I'd expect them ;-)
> 

Sounds like you've probably got a US keymap (you know, the one with
the keys in the wrong place ;)) installed. Add

keymap="uk.cp850"

to /etc/rc.conf. If you want to swap the Left-Ctrl and CapsLock keys
then swap the entries for 029 and 058 in
/usr/share/syscons/keymaps/uk.cp850.kbd

HTH


> I've given up working at the console, and I'm ssh-ing from another machine for now.
> 
> I remember selecting my keyboard during the installation
> 
> I obviously got this wrong.
> 
> How do I change it retrspectively ?
> 
> Dave
> 
> 

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On Thu, 11 May 2000, Dan O'Connor wrote:

>>I'm probably missing something here.  I can convert mp3's to wav files
>>and burn the tracks on a CD.  The resulting CD plays just fine on
>>computer CD Roms, but they just refuse to play on any and I mean any
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>>
>>Does anyone out there know how to successfully do this?
>
>Are you using CD-RW discs or CD-R?  Audio-CD players typically can't read
>CD-RW discs...
>

I first tried with a CD-RW, and suspected that might be the
problem.  CD-R's behave the same way.  I'm listening to the CD-R I
just burned on my computer as I write this.  The CD players I
have around the house (three of them) say No Disc.  Another
coaster.  At least I won't have any coffee rings on my desk!


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On 12-May-00 Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote:
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> ipfw -q add 10000 deny log ip from any to any

I don't suppose it could be that you're using the "quiet" flag (-q)?
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Ken Marx wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html used to allow
> searche results to be sorted by date. Is there some reason
> this has been disabled,

	The stated reason was a bug in the WAIS database.

> and/or way we could have this feature
> restored?

	I'm sure that as soon as it's possible, it will be. 

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Thu May 11 21:36:27 2000
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You could make the users shell be /bin/ftponly and have 'ftponly' be
something like:

 #!/bin/sh
 echo "Sorry, you are not allowed to FTP to this machine."
 echo "Contact Glenn if you have any questions."

Oh... you will need to add /bin/ftponly to your /etc/shells, unless you
are using something like 'proftpd' which allows you to not check the
/etc/shells file.  I like 'proftpd' because it has the ability to
chroot()... thus, you can hide all the directories except /home from your
users.

Rudy

On Thu, 11 May 2000, Glenn Johnson wrote:

> On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 06:16:36PM -0700, Blake Swensen wrote:
> 
> > I have a need to prevent certain clients, who need FTP access, from
> > telneting into the machines on my network.
> >
> > I have been using /etc/login.access to prohibit those users, but it is
> > a hassle to add an entry in every machine on the network.
> >
> > Have also tried to add those users to a NIS'ed group and added the
> > @groupname to login.access. Login.access must only look at the user's
> > GID, not the group file, or the NIS map for group.
> >
> > Is there a method for NIS'ifying the login.access file or a better
> > method to allow ftp access but not shell access.
> 
> You could use rdist to distribute the login.access file. It is part of
> the base FreeBSD system although I have found the rdist6 port to be more
> useful as I can use ssh for communication between hosts with it.
> 
> -- 
> Glenn Johnson
> glennpj@bayouhome.net
> 
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Hello,

Well, I only used CD burner for data storage but my friend had similar 
experience.  In his case, his burned CD won't play on any of his stereo 
systems but played fine on certain other stereo systems.  I suspected that 
it might be the quality of CD-R he was using ( I think it was maxwell,  not 
very sure though), and suggested him to try different brand -- I prefer 
Verbatim.  And he successfully burned audio CD after that, without failing 
once.  What brand of CD-R are you using?  Try better quality ones.

Joe Park



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Are you saying Postgresql will be able to use a quad processor system?  Or
are you saying it is a processor hog?

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On Thu, 11 May 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote:

> * Chris Phillips  [000511 13:57] wrote:
> > You will need 4 Xeon processors to do the 4 way SMP.  I do not believe
> > there is a database that runs native on FreeBSD and not through emulation
> > what would even be able to take advantage of all that processing
> > power.  There seems to be very little documentation on FreeBSD's ability
> > to run Oracle.  Perhaps the money that you were going to invest in
> > processing power would be better spent on some raid or ram.
> > 
> 
> Postgresql will.
> 
> -Alfred
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A client has a FreeBSD system on which the keyboard's Scroll Lock light 
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Harry Putnam wrote:
> 
> After grappling with the BSD OS for 2days now, I feel like I've been in
> the ring with Tyson.  (I'll admit it hasn't bit me yet)
> 
> The ins and outs of using ifconfig are winning most rounds.  A few
> simple examples would be nice in that man page.  Setting a default
> route must be a common need with ifconfig.  

	You have to use route to set the default route, although that's usually
done at boot with the information you supply in /etc/rc.conf[.local].
Specifically:

route add default 11.22.33.44

(supply your own IP, obviously).

Good luck,

Doug
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On Thu, 11 May 2000, Joe Park wrote:

>Hello,
>
>Well, I only used CD burner for data storage but my friend had similar 
>experience.  In his case, his burned CD won't play on any of his stereo 
>systems but played fine on certain other stereo systems.  I suspected that 
>it might be the quality of CD-R he was using ( I think it was maxwell,  not 
>very sure though), and suggested him to try different brand -- I prefer 
>Verbatim.  And he successfully burned audio CD after that, without failing 
>once.  What brand of CD-R are you using?  Try better quality ones.

Well, I am using fairly cheap ones (Comp USA house brand - $19.95 for
50, on sale).  I use them for offloading data too, and have no trouble
with them at all data-wise. I even burned a 4.0-install CD from the
ISO image on the ftp site in case of emergency, and it boots and reads
just fine. I guess maybe audio players are more picky? Perhaps they're
designed that way to prevent copying?


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On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 07:24:08AM -0500, Conrad Sabatier wrote:
> 
> On 10-May-00 Mark Ovens wrote:
> >   # cd /usr/ports/www/mozilla-fonts
>                     ^^^
> s/www/x11-fonts/
> 

OK, I'll compromise, it's in both:

% find /usr/ports -name mozilla-fonts
/usr/ports/www/mozilla-fonts
/usr/ports/x11-fonts/mozilla-fonts
% 

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On Thu, 11 May 2000, Dutch Collins wrote:
> Gheorghe Ardelean wrote:
> > can I install FreeBSD 4.0R on a IBM PS/2 Model 65SX with 8MB Ram
> > and 2 SCSI HDD of 120MB each?
> > 
> > The netowrk card is an WD8003 and the SCSI Controller is Based on Adaptec
> > AIC-6250EL.
> 
> NetBSD has a patch for their software that "should" work for MCA.
> 
> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/05/06/1836253
> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2000/05/02/0021.html
> http://www.ics.muni.cz/~dolecek/NetBSD/MCA/

FreeBSD has MCA support.  The 'ed' driver doesn't currently support the
WD8003/A but the AHA-1640 is supported.

GENERIC doesn't have MCA support built in so you'll need to build a custom
kernel and copy it to the boot floppy.

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Hi there,

Someone asked me whether you could set up a printer and have it email the
results to someone.  I gave it some thought and said sure we can do that on
FreeBSD, but then I had a quick look around and couldn't find anything.

I was thinking of something along the lines of the Generic Text Only printer
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Has anyone heard of anything similar? Can anyone see any problem with what I
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Dear sir/Madam,

Does FreeBSD support IBM ServeRaid adapter?

Thanks.



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I have some old 486's and Pentiums laying around.  I'd like to put FreeBSD
on them, but would rather not wait two days for them to run a 'make
world'.

I would like to take out the hard drives and configure them in a faster,
existing FreeBSD box, and then place the drives back in a slower
machine.  Can I just copy the / and /usr directorys from one disk to
another and expect them to work?  Is there a web page which outlines this
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Where do I obtain more informations about how IPDIVERT or BRIDGING
works and is used to route IP packets through kernel? The documentation
is rather poor and I want to learn more how to build up firewalls and/or
packet filtering systems on FBSD. Has anyone suggestions in literature, drafts
and so on?
Thanks a lot in advance,



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Can someone clarify getopt(1) and getopts(1)? According to sh(1):

 getopts optstring var
     The POSIX getopts command.  The getopts command deprecates the
     older getopt(1) command.....

but there is no manpage for getopts(1), only getopt(1). The latter
includes some sample code which works fine, however if I change
``getopt'' to ``getopts'' in this code I get:

parish:/usr/marko{89}% ./foobar -b
getopts: -b: bad variable name
Usage: ...
parish:/usr/marko{90}%

Since getopt(1) is deprecated it would be better to use getopts(1).
Can anyone explain the above error, or point me to some documentation
for getopts(1)?

Thanks.

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On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 11:13:19PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote:
> Can someone clarify getopt(1) and getopts(1)? According to sh(1):
> 
>  getopts optstring var
>      The POSIX getopts command.  The getopts command deprecates the
>      older getopt(1) command.....
> 
> but there is no manpage for getopts(1), only getopt(1). The latter
> includes some sample code which works fine, however if I change
> ``getopt'' to ``getopts'' in this code I get:
> 
> parish:/usr/marko{89}% ./foobar -b
> getopts: -b: bad variable name
> Usage: ...
> parish:/usr/marko{90}%
> 
> Since getopt(1) is deprecated it would be better to use getopts(1).
> Can anyone explain the above error, or point me to some documentation
> for getopts(1)?
> 

On my system (4.0-stable) there is a manpage for getopts(1). It just a link
to buiiltin(1) which says that it is a builtin command in sh(1).
The manpage for sh(1) has the following to say about getopts:

   getopts optstring var
             The POSIX getopts command.  The getopts command deprecates the
             older getopt(1) command.  The first argument should be a series
             of letters, each possibly followed by a colon which indicates
             that the option takes an argument.  The specified variable is set
             to the parsed option.  The index of the next argument is placed
             into the shell variable OPTIND. If an option takes an argument,
             it is placed into the shell variable OPTARG. If an invalid option
             is encountered, var is set to `?''. It returns a false value (1)
             when it encounters the end of the options.






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hi guys... 
i'd be really happy if somebody could help me, even with a 'no it's
not
possible' i hate this uncertainity...
sorry for bothering you again...

greetz Flavio


On 09 May 2000 03:52:25 CEST, flaviocu@swix.ch brabbled:

> hi
>  
>  i have a 4xatapi cd-changer... it get's detected by freebsd-4.0:
>  
>  May	8 06:03:53 noway /kernel: acd0-3: CDROM with 4 CD changer   CD-ROM DRIVE:251> at ata1-master using PIO3
>  i MAKEDEV'd /dev/acd1-3... but when i try to mount cdroms from
>  anything else than acd0 i get: 
>  cd9660: Device not configured...
>  from reading the atapicd source it looks like changer devices are
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On Thursday, 11 May 2000 at 23:11:34 -0700, Rudy wrote:
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> I have some old 486's and Pentiums laying around.  I'd like to put FreeBSD
> on them, but would rather not wait two days for them to run a 'make
> world'.
>
> I would like to take out the hard drives and configure them in a faster,
> existing FreeBSD box, and then place the drives back in a slower
> machine.  Can I just copy the / and /usr directorys from one disk to
> another and expect them to work? 

Almost.

> Is there a web page which outlines this process?

No, this is deep magic.

The only other thing you need to do is to put a valid bootstrap on the
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I am writing to say that Netscape Navigator 4.7 can be prevented
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> netscape
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>

by renaming $HOME/.netscape and starting navigoator.

The problem was evidently caused by Nav 4.7 not being able to cope with
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BTW in case it helps others, I found the aout compatibility libraries
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Hi ,
I am Duong in Cantho University, i have compaq proliant 6000 with 2 CPU =
PIII 500, 256 RAM, 2 9.1 GB HDD, i use RAID 0 . i set up FreeBSD on it =
but i have some problems, please help me:
=20
i download FreeBSD 4.0 from your ftp site
i make two floppy disk for installation
it boot from floppy disk ok, copy files to hard disk good but when it =
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Hi ,


I am Duong in Cantho University, i have compaq =
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FreeBSD on=20
it but i have some problems, please help me:


 


i download FreeBSD 4.0 from your ftp =
site


i make two floppy disk for installation


it boot from floppy disk ok, copy files to hard disk =
good but=20
when it finish to copy files to hard disk, then i have an error: " =
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returned none-zero status"


 


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At 11/05/00, Conrad Sabatier wrote:

>On 12-May-00 Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote:
> >
> > The problem is that ipfw, even if working, don't log me on
> > the screen or in /var/log/messages the rules that are triggered
> > (with the log keyword) like:
> >
> > ipfw -q add 10000 deny log ip from any to any
>
>I don't suppose it could be that you're using the "quiet" flag (-q)?
>:-)

No, I think the -q flag is used i.e. to disable output when the rules is 
set, not to disable the logging facilities.
I am missing these kind of logging which I require with the "log" keyword:

[3.4-stable]
May  9 20:14:34 freebsd /kernel: ipfw: 10000 Deny ICMP:3.13 195.22.192.30 
192.168.0.124 in via tun0
May  9 20:14:46 freebsd /kernel: ipfw: 10000 Deny ICMP:3.13 195.22.192.30 
192.168.0.124 in via tun0
May  9 20:17:59 freebsd /kernel: ipfw: 10000 Deny ICMP:8.0 194.119.192.34 
194.243.20.91 in via tun0

In 4.0-STABLE these kind of logging doesn't happen anymore, even if I set 
in the kernel
options         IPFIREWALL
options         IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE      #print information about
options         IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100    #limit verbosity

(I repeat because I fw the message in -hackers mailing list)

and even if ipfw logs the reached counter
[4.0-stable]
May 10 19:58:41 freebsd /kernel: ipfw: limit 100 reached on entry 10000

and my ipfw var are ok (I presume):

sysctl -a
[...]
net.inet.ip.fw.enable: 1
net.inet.ip.fw.one_pass: 1
net.inet.ip.fw.debug: 1
net.inet.ip.fw.verbose: 1
net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit: 100
net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_buckets: 256
net.inet.ip.fw.curr_dyn_buckets: 256
net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_count: 0
net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_max: 1000
net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_ack_lifetime: 300
net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_syn_lifetime: 20
net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_fin_lifetime: 20
net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_rst_lifetime: 5
net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_short_lifetime: 5
[...]

Thanks to everyone for attention...



Best Regards,
Gianmarco Giovannelli ,  "Unix expert since yesterday"
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Bryan Liesner wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 11 May 2000, Joe Park wrote:
> 
> >Hello,
> >
> >Well, I only used CD burner for data storage but my friend had similar
> >experience.  In his case, his burned CD won't play on any of his stereo
> >systems but played fine on certain other stereo systems.  I suspected that
> >it might be the quality of CD-R he was using ( I think it was maxwell,  not
> >very sure though), and suggested him to try different brand -- I prefer
> >Verbatim.  And he successfully burned audio CD after that, without failing
> >once.  What brand of CD-R are you using?  Try better quality ones.
> 
> Well, I am using fairly cheap ones (Comp USA house brand - $19.95 for
> 50, on sale).  I use them for offloading data too, and have no trouble
> with them at all data-wise. I even burned a 4.0-install CD from the
> ISO image on the ftp site in case of emergency, and it boots and reads
> just fine. I guess maybe audio players are more picky? Perhaps they're
> designed that way to prevent copying?

I have had the same problem. There are CD-R blanks called "Music
CD-R's" that are supposed to be identified as you having payed a
royalty and usable in your home A/V system. I purchased 10 of them but
I haven't tried burning a CD using one of them yet.

Kent

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Does anyone know if there is a script or a program out there that will just
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Has anyone encountered this problem, and if so, how did you do it?

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> On Thu, 11 May 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> 
> > * Chris Phillips  [000511 13:57] wrote:
> > > You will need 4 Xeon processors to do the 4 way SMP.  I do not believe
> > > there is a database that runs native on FreeBSD and not through emulation
> > > what would even be able to take advantage of all that processing
> > > power.  There seems to be very little documentation on FreeBSD's ability
> > > to run Oracle.  Perhaps the money that you were going to invest in
> > > processing power would be better spent on some raid or ram.
> > > 
> > 
> > Postgresql will.
> > 

* Brennan W Stehling  [000511 22:11] wrote:
> Are you saying Postgresql will be able to use a quad processor system?  Or
> are you saying it is a processor hog?

Postgresql is a multi-process database so queries should be spread out
onto mutiple backends that will be scheduled on seperate processors.

-Alfred


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At 12/05/00, you wrote:
>On Fri, 12 May 2000, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote:
>
> > I am missing these kind of logging which I require with the "log" keyword:
>
>Check your syslog.conf settings - ipfw didn't change the logging behaviour
>with 4.0, AFAIK.

Find it ! Thanks it logs everything in /var/log/security now...

Thanks again for your input.





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Hello,

Compaq is very sensitive to the type of OS used.  And in addition is limiting
you and people from playing around with it.

But From memory you have to make sure you specify the OS you want to bootup to
by pressing "F2" and then selecting NT , 95 or Linux.

Maybe try that.


On Thu, 11 May 2000, Luu Trung Duong wrote:
> >%_Hi ,
> I am Duong in Cantho University, i have compaq proliant 6000 with 2 CPU PIII 500, 256 RAM, 2 9.1 GB HDD, i use RAID 0 . i set up FreeBSD on it but i have some problems, please help me:
>  
> i download FreeBSD 4.0 from your ftp site
> i make two floppy disk for installation
> it boot from floppy disk ok, copy files to hard disk good but when it finish to copy files to hard disk, then i have an error: " MAKEDEV returned none-zero status"
> 
> Please help me,
> Thanks
> 
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- This is not relevant to FreeBSD
- If you want to become a good IT professional just figure the stuff out
yourself. This is done by reading some theory and doing a practical excercise
on some playpen. eg. If you want to start off as a UNIX administrator. you might

read
MCSE Networking Essentials - OSI model etc etc
Read about TCP/IP
Install FreeBSD/ NT/ Novell NEtware whatever at home
Subscribe to a Networking mailing list- 



On Fri, 12 May 2000, David wrote:
> This does not truly pertain to FreeBSD in itself, for which i do
> apologize, I'm re-posting this from another list I belong too, for the
> purpose of getting a larger response base.
> 
> Thanks...
> 
> 
> 
> Hello Everyone;
> 
> 
> I'm putting this out in the hopes that some of you could help me in
> making a decision regarding the most appropriate facility to attend with
> regards to Computer Studies.
> 
> Due to many variables at the present time, it is unlikely that I will be
> able to accomplish certain goals I had set my sights on, so I have
> decided I may as well take the plunge and go back to school.
> 
> It is obvious to me, after spending some time reading The C Programing
> Language, and the fact that cryptology has been a sort of "hobby" in a
> general way, as well as my passion for computers and the technology
> behind it, that grows every increasingly everyday, that there is so much
> more involved with the underlying technology behind computers that I
> wish to explore, and simply learning how to program in a particular
> language, or any language for that matter, which in itself is quite
> gratifying once the skill is learned, would not accomplish what it is I
> am after learning.
> 
> So after years of back pedaling, excuses etc etc..., I'm trying to find
> an appropriate facility where I may accomplish the above. So first off,
> What is if any, the more "better" facility to attend?
> There are all sorts of University's, Colleges and Tech Schools around
> that offer everything from computer science to programing too
> applications etc. etc. I have been looking at Simon Frazer U out in
> Burnaby, which has a lovely location atop a mountain with a beautiful
> view of the Frazer river area :), but also there are a couple "pure"
> tech schools out that way, and numerous other colleges and University's
> that all offer some form of computer studies. Computer Science would be
> my preference if anything, but it has been so many years for me away
> from a learning institute, that I'm quite sure so much has changed with
> them, that I'm not in a position to make any type of "proper" choice
> with regards to a more appropriate place to attend.
> 
> Secondly would be, what type of courses should I be looking at to get me
> up too speed for attending such computer based courses themselves?
> 
> Any info or direction you could offer would be most welcome.
> 
> Once again, thanking you in advance;
> 
> David
> 
> PS: I've noticed, that in computer studies there is lots of writing to
> be done in explaining actions or programs etc., so I figured I would
> start getting into it here :)
> 
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>    ``We are looking for support for an Adaptec 29160 controller or any other
>    Ultra160 controller.  I don't see it in the release notes for FBSD 4.0.
>    Guess that's not an option.''

The support's there - look in /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/ahc_pci.c.

I've currently got an Intel L440GX+ motherboard (with onboard Adaptec
7896/97 SCSI controller) with an additional Adaptec 29160 Ultra160
SCSI adapter plugged into it.  It's running FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE , and
can see all of the scsi interfaces (both the onboard ones, and the
29160 one) and all the disks on them.

No problems at all.

One niggle, but it's not FreeBSD related - I had to move the 29160
onto the second PCI bus as it insisted on conflicting with the onboard
controller, and I didn't have the time to determine if there was a 
BIOS tweak to persuade them to behave.

Conclusion: FBSD 4.0-RELEASE supports the 29160 .

-patrick.


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On Thu, 11 May 2000, todd ritzka wrote:

> i wanted to put x windows on my computer, and i was wondering where
> in the ftp site i can download it??, and what do i have to
> download????

It's been a while since I installed X Window, but what you're looking for
is a port for XFree86 (an open-source implementation of X Window).  If you
installed the ports tree (look for a list of directories in /usr/ports),
the XFree86 port is /usr/ports/XFree86.  cd to /usr/ports/XFree86, then
type make install.

If you didn't install the ports tree, you might be better off downloading
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Dear Sirs.
I look for RCC Server Works HE chipset based motherboards like the
Dell Poweredge boards or Tyan Thunder 2500 freely available on market.
As I realized, Tyan changed the SCSI specification on the TYAN Thunder 2500,
now the main PCB has only SCSI2-LVD controller and was introduced with
SCSI-3/160. Has anybody any idea, hints or tips?

The mainboard must have the following specs: RCC Server Works HE chipset,
up to 8 GB 1:4 interleaved registered PC133 SDRAM, two SLot I PIII/FSB 133
CPUs, SCSI-3/160 controller (prefer two channels). 
Who knows some vendors of those boards and can tell me where to order?
Thanks in advance,

Gruss O. Hartmann
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Dear Sirs.
I'm struggling around with some problems in building up a firewalling
system with two NICs. The main problem is, how to "gate" all IP packets
from on NIC to the other and filter them.

FreeBSD comes with two kernel-options, IP_FIREWALL and IPFILTER. I do not
know what are the differences between both options and the documentation
ist rather poor! Please let me know which one of this options is the most
powerfull and fastest ans so the first choice. At this moment, I took some
tests with ipfw and it was really frustrating how much info I can obtain how to
build a firewall with two NICs with this package. Nothing about how to
route or gate packets, nothing about how to configure the system to be a
multihomed host ... the usual problems for a newbie.

Well, does anybody have some informations about the differences about IPF and IPFW,
weak points or strong points of each package (complexicity is not of my focus, the
system must be fast and really flexible and should work with two NICs). 

Thanks in advance,

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Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 09:39:33 +0100
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thanx for your help, and yes X wasn't/isn't installed (but then thats cause
i have no idea what i'm doing).

thanx everyone for your time,
rob
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Harold Pulcher - Killer Computing [SMTP:pulcher@killercomputing.com]
> Sent:	Thursday, May 11, 2000 10:22 PM
> To:	Matt Rohrer; Rob Carmichael
> Cc:	'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'
> Subject:	Re: whereis not working ?
> 
> > On Thu, 11 May 2000, Rob Carmichael wrote:
> >
> > > I get this when i run "whereis":
> > >
> > > bash-2.03$ whereis gmatrix
> > > Warning: couldn't stat file /usr/X11R6/man!
> > > gmatrix:
> > >
> > > Any ideas ?
> >
> > Add /usr/X11R6/man to your MANPATH, perhaps?
> 
> Nice try.
> 
> What is means is the the directory /usr/X11R6/man does not exist.  It is
> most likely in your startup files.  'whereis' will search all the
> directories in your path as well as a couple more depending on what your
> particular PATH variable looks like.
> 
> I would suggest you go back to your src dir and look at where the command
> should be installed and make sure that directory is in your path.  The
> above
> dir is pretty much a standard.  I am gonna make a guess.  Either X is not
> installed, or it was installed in a non-standard location.  You need to
> change your path to include the X directories.
> 
> Harold


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Thanks for all the help guys (you know who you are)! 
Now I can extract 'sub.domain.tld/file.html' to 'domain.tld'. Thanks!

However I need to extract and return second level 
domainname with top level domainname from any combination:

https://foo.bar.sub.domain.tld/anythingornothing/file.html
gopher://anything.domain.tld/nothingoranything/foo.file
anything://domain.tld/file.php3
http://domain.tld/
telnet://domain.tld

should all return: 'domain.tld'.

Maybe I'm reaching in the wrong direction when trying to use regexps
for this. Any other method is also welcome.

Regards
------------
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Have anyone installed and is using AVP for sendmail, is so:

Can I have a few pointers on how to install it, and a few comments on it's effectivity?


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Danny wrote:
> 
> - This is not relevant to FreeBSD
> - If you want to become a good IT professional just figure the stuff out
> yourself. This is done by reading some theory and doing a practical excercise
> on some playpen. eg. If you want to start off as a UNIX administrator. you might
> 
> read
> MCSE Networking Essentials - OSI model etc etc
> Read about TCP/IP
> Install FreeBSD/ NT/ Novell NEtware whatever at home
> Subscribe to a Networking mailing list-
 
Your absolutely right about this having nothing to do with FreeBSD, for
which I have apologized in advance, but I do realize I should have added
for anyone who wished to reply to please do so privately, also leaving
out the second paragraph, which was not meant for this list. I should
have also mentioned that my interest is in The Computer Science Field as
a whole, and not the individual pieces.

I would say the reason why I did post here was with the knowledge that
there are people on the list having been through what I am looking to
enter into, with much knowledge and incite which could possibly assist
me in my decision. 

Not really sure how the MCSE, installing NT or Novell will assist me in
becoming or learning Unix System admin, but I can assure you that I, for
one would never bless my dual machine here or my OpenBSD firewall box
with NT.

Once again sorry everyone for keeping this up on the list here.

Salut...

David

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On Thu, 11 May 2000, Chris Phillips wrote:

> I'm not not a guru either.  However, PIII processors will only do 2 way
> processing.  Meaning, you can only use 2.  To get 4 way on x86, you must
> use Xeon.  I also know that FreeBSD does not do SMP very well as opposed
> to it's counterparts.  We use FreeBSD for our webservers and openbsd for
> our firewalls and unfortuneatly Suns for our databases because of their
> support for Oracle as well as the ability to have 8+ processors.  Like I
> said before, would this money not be better spent on ram and raid?  =3D)

Hmm, I use FreeBSD 3.x-R on three dual cpu servers (PII/PIII) and my
impression is FreeBSD does SMP well. Well, I don't speak of multithreaded
applications like data bases (I've no experience here) but on process
level SMP FreeBSD seems to do a perfect job.

I also did some measurements (http://gwdu60.gwdg.de/pmatmat/pmatmat.html)
some time ago which showed good results.

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Hi guys, howzit going ?

With Linux I have used IPmasqing to connect a LAN to the Internet via a
Linux box that has a permanent connection to the internet using a modem. (ie
dedicated or leased 33.6K analogue
How can I do the same with FreeBSD, using pppd ?
I have looked at the FAQ's and can't find anything that applies to FreeBSD.
My FreeBSD box connects perfectly and surfs 100%, I just need it to perform
dynamic nat, or IP masqing.
I have tried natd and can't seem to get it right at all...
Basically it's the standard setup, my LAN runs on a 10.0.0.0 IP block.

Please help if you can 8-)

Regards
Dave



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On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 03:17:44PM -0400, Nathan Vidican wrote:
> There are many different ways you can approach this. I'll give you my
> two suggestions, but I'd be curious as to what you do end up using? 
> 	First off- (this is something we actually implement) you could use a
> managed hub to  setup resilient port pools, wherein two identical
> mirrored machines (both assuming the same IP address) are connected to
> say port one, and port 12 of the hub; when the hub detects a loss of
> link, or a poor link status (user defined 'poor'), it disconnects one
> machine and connects the other. We're utilizing this concept on our
> radius boxes, because it allows us to reboot them daily without any
> interuption in service (one at noon, one at midnight kinda deal).

Hi there,

can you please tell more about this or point me to some useful info?
which hub does support this?

is it possible to switch over by hand/script, if one maschine fails but the network still up?

thanks
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You can do this by using the "-nat" option with ppp.  :)

Cheers,
Marc

On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 12:07:47PM +0200, Dave Wilson wrote:
> Hi guys, howzit going ?
> 
> With Linux I have used IPmasqing to connect a LAN to the Internet via a
> Linux box that has a permanent connection to the internet using a modem. (ie
> dedicated or leased 33.6K analogue
> How can I do the same with FreeBSD, using pppd ?
> I have looked at the FAQ's and can't find anything that applies to FreeBSD.
> My FreeBSD box connects perfectly and surfs 100%, I just need it to perform
> dynamic nat, or IP masqing.
> I have tried natd and can't seem to get it right at all...
> Basically it's the standard setup, my LAN runs on a 10.0.0.0 IP block.
> 
> Please help if you can 8-)
> 
> Regards
> Dave


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On FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE, rpc.lockd exists, has a man page that suggests it
works, but has a dire warning in /etc/defaults/rc.conf that it doesn't.

Never one to believe dire warnings, I've tried it.  It runs, appears to
try to do things, but fails to work.  The test I've been using is the
procmail file locking test suite, which makes some fairly sensible 
attempts to see if a particular locking strategy will work.

I have a suspicion that the client I was testing from (solaris 2.5.1)
is making a decision to insist on doing 'version==4' locking attempts
_because_ it's noticed that it can do 'version==3' nfs accesses.  

I've come to this conclusion since snooping the network indicates that
the client keeps doing version==4 requests and ignoring the "can't do
that, I'm prepared to accept versions between 1 and 3" reply, whereas
it's quite happy doing locking against a SunOS4 machine where only rpc
versions 1-3 of the lock manager are available, but only nfs v2 is
being provided.

Is anyone looking at this at the moment?

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> I've come to this conclusion since snooping the network indicates that
> the client keeps doing version==4 requests and ignoring the "can't do
> that, I'm prepared to accept versions between 1 and 3" reply, whereas
> it's quite happy doing locking against a SunOS4 machine where only rpc
> versions 1-3 of the lock manager are available, but only nfs v2 is
> being provided.

And, I've now found an easier way of confirming that this must be the
case, by looking at RFC1813.

> Is anyone looking at this at the moment?

This question still stands, though 8-)

-patrick.


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On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 12:27:14PM +0100, jpmg@eng.cam.ac.uk wrote:
> On FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE, rpc.lockd exists, has a man page that suggests it
> works, but has a dire warning in /etc/defaults/rc.conf that it doesn't.
> 
> Never one to believe dire warnings, I've tried it.  It runs, appears to
> try to do things, but fails to work.  The test I've been using is the
> procmail file locking test suite, which makes some fairly sensible 
> attempts to see if a particular locking strategy will work.

As I understand it it is only a dummy implementation at the moment.
So when a client asks for a lock rpc.lockd basically says "Sure, have a
lock." and gives a lock to the client without actually locking anything.
Therefore it is quite useless for tasks that actually require real locks.
What it is useful for is to get semi-broken PC-clients that insist on
getting a lock without actually needing it, to work.


> 
> I have a suspicion that the client I was testing from (solaris 2.5.1)
> is making a decision to insist on doing 'version==4' locking attempts
> _because_ it's noticed that it can do 'version==3' nfs accesses.  
> 
> I've come to this conclusion since snooping the network indicates that
> the client keeps doing version==4 requests and ignoring the "can't do
> that, I'm prepared to accept versions between 1 and 3" reply, whereas
> it's quite happy doing locking against a SunOS4 machine where only rpc
> versions 1-3 of the lock manager are available, but only nfs v2 is
> being provided.
> 
> Is anyone looking at this at the moment?
> 


-- 

Erik Trulsson
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Subject: About the "ports"
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I have the book "The Complete FreeBSD", complete with 4 CD's with 3.4
from last december. (BTW nice job, Greg.)

I have some doubts about the ports.

First of all, I've already installed a few apps, and most of the ports I
have on my local system (in /usr/ports/), are already out of date. So I
have doubts if it's any use for keeping a rather complete ports tree on
disk at all?

Second: why are the ports distributed as a subtree with lots of small
files? That doesn't make sense. Downloading the files for a port from
the net is pretty difficult. I have to get my ports on my Windows PC. My
internet connection on FreeBSD box isn't working yet. Using a plain
browser is absolutely impractical. Using an FTP client works. But I
still have the problem that the file ownership and permissions aren't
right when placed on the FreeBSD box.

Why isn't that tree distributed as one single .tar.gz file? For example,
for PostgreSQL, the file would be
/usr/ports/databases/postgresql.tar.gz . One fetch, you have your port.
untar and ungzip, and you're ready to install. 

Small files waste a lot of disk space (say, 32k of disk space for a file
of 200 bytes). That way I'm not surprised that the ports tree takes
40-100Mb. So maybe that same .tar.gz format in the ports tree would save
a lot of disk space? Until you actually need it. And then you find you
need an update anyway. :-/

And finally, is something changed in the ports mechanism since december?
I got the update for postgreSQL, and I've had to modify the Makefile to
make it work: the variable DISTNAME was used, but never declared. I've
had to combine the package name and the version number (I forgot the
exact variables' names) to get it. It compiled just fine. I hope. :-)

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I've had a weird crash (my keybord/console only typed garbage), and I
had to force a reboot.

After that, postgreSQL refused to run because the socket
(/tmp/s.postgres.5432 or some name like that) was "in use". I had to
delete the file and reboot to make it work. I could get rid of the file
without problem by simply rm-ing it.

This doesn't look right: it's too much manual work.

Does this mean I'll have to do that every time my server crashes? Can't
the file automatically be deleted at startup, before the postgreSQL
demon starts up?

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On Fri 2000-05-12 (12:07), Dave Wilson wrote:
> My FreeBSD box connects perfectly and surfs 100%, I just need it to perform
> dynamic nat, or IP masqing.

ppp -ddial -nat, roughly.  Userland ppp is the way to go.

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On Fri, 12 May 2000, Bart Lateur wrote:

[ Deleting leftver crud from /tmp... ]

> This doesn't look right: it's too much manual work.

Agreed.

> Does this mean I'll have to do that every time my server crashes? Can't
> the file automatically be deleted at startup, before the postgreSQL
> demon starts up?

You might want to look at using mfs to hold your /tmp directory. This 
has advantages (it's really temporary). Worthwhile considering nodev,
nosuid, nosymfollow to the list of /tmp mount options too.


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On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 11:37:38AM +0000, Bart Lateur wrote:
> I have the book "The Complete FreeBSD", complete with 4 CD's with 3.4
> from last december. (BTW nice job, Greg.)
> 
> I have some doubts about the ports.
> 
> First of all, I've already installed a few apps, and most of the ports I
> have on my local system (in /usr/ports/), are already out of date. So I
> have doubts if it's any use for keeping a rather complete ports tree on
> disk at all?

Oh yes it is. You can easily update the ports tree itself using cvsup and
then you can always build the latest versions of programs.

> 
> Second: why are the ports distributed as a subtree with lots of small
> files? That doesn't make sense. Downloading the files for a port from
> the net is pretty difficult. I have to get my ports on my Windows PC. My
> internet connection on FreeBSD box isn't working yet. Using a plain
> browser is absolutely impractical. Using an FTP client works. But I
> still have the problem that the file ownership and permissions aren't
> right when placed on the FreeBSD box.

If you have a correctly installed FreeBSD box *with* a working Internet
connection the ports mechanism takes care of all the downloading for you.
You just go to the correct subdirectory in the /usr/ports tree, type
"make install" and wait while the distribution file is downloaded, compiled
and installed.

Note that the ports mechanism assumes that you *do* have a working Internet
connection from your FreeBSD box.

> 
> Why isn't that tree distributed as one single .tar.gz file? For example,
> for PostgreSQL, the file would be
> /usr/ports/databases/postgresql.tar.gz . One fetch, you have your port.
> untar and ungzip, and you're ready to install. 
> 
> Small files waste a lot of disk space (say, 32k of disk space for a file
> of 200 bytes). That way I'm not surprised that the ports tree takes
> 40-100Mb. So maybe that same .tar.gz format in the ports tree would save
> a lot of disk space? Until you actually need it. And then you find you
> need an update anyway. :-/

On FreeBSD small files don't waste that much space. It is more like 1k of
diskspace for a 200 bytes file.



> 
> And finally, is something changed in the ports mechanism since december?
> I got the update for postgreSQL, and I've had to modify the Makefile to
> make it work: the variable DISTNAME was used, but never declared. I've
> had to combine the package name and the version number (I forgot the
> exact variables' names) to get it. It compiled just fine. I hope. :-)
> 


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From owner-freebsd-questions  Fri May 12  5:23:52 2000
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A little delayed reaction but something I have been thinking about for a
while.

The idea has been kicked around that 32mb for / and 20mb for /var is a
little outdated.  Not only in this thread but previously.  

I have had machines from 2.2.6-4.0-stable that plow happily along under
these constraint.  The only time I ever had a problem was with a 3.2
machine and a botched backup script that duplicated and reduplicated files
each day until the locate database bloated beyond the /var limit, but I
digress, or tell on myself ;-)

The point is that I do feel it is silly to keep them so small in the days
of multi gig drives, which brings me to ask.  In the days of 500mb to 1gig
of Ram is the idea of doubling that in swap space still a good practice?

I realize that opinions are like posteriors, but I would like to hear
some.

Jim  Weeks
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> I have some doubts about the ports.
> First of all, I've already installed a few apps, and most of the ports I
> have on my local system (in /usr/ports/), are already out of date. So I
> have doubts if it's any use for keeping a rather complete ports tree on
> disk at all?

Not unless you don't update it, or just want to have a static snapshot.

> Second: why are the ports distributed as a subtree with lots of small
> files? That doesn't make sense. Downloading the files for a port from
> the net is pretty difficult. I have to get my ports on my Windows PC. My
> internet connection on FreeBSD box isn't working yet. Using a plain
> browser is absolutely impractical. Using an FTP client works. But I
> still have the problem that the file ownership and permissions aren't
> right when placed on the FreeBSD box.

Difficult?? It's not diffcult at all, just type 'make install' and it will 
fetch it for you, but you said you didnt have an internet connection 
working yet on your FreeBSD boxen. Very well, configure it as a ftpserver 
on the internal net with /usr/port/distfiles as toplevel directory and just 
ftp the files over then. When installing the ports as root the permissions 
shouldn't matter at all.




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On Fri, 12 May 2000, Jim Weeks wrote:
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: The point is that I do feel it is silly to keep them so small in the days
: of multi gig drives, which brings me to ask.  In the days of 500mb to 1gig
: of Ram is the idea of doubling that in swap space still a good practice?

I personally double swap up to 512M for a GB of swap space. Once the RAM
gets over 512M I just leave the swap at a GB, works well for me. It's just
a personal opinion.

: Jim  Weeks

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Fri May 12  5:35:38 2000
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We're using 3COM Linkbuilder FMS II (10baseT) hubs, with a single
management module, in the first hub, of a cascading array of hubs. The
setup is done from within the hub's management software, (via telnet to
an IP address, or a serial link - kinda like a router), there are quite
a few options you can use, visit 3Com's site and read the help pages on
the hub's management. (note, if the hub with the management module
dies...you're gonna be screwed unless you've got another on hand).


Sven Huster wrote:
> 
> On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 03:17:44PM -0400, Nathan Vidican wrote:
> > There are many different ways you can approach this. I'll give you my
> > two suggestions, but I'd be curious as to what you do end up using?
> >       First off- (this is something we actually implement) you could use a
> > managed hub to  setup resilient port pools, wherein two identical
> > mirrored machines (both assuming the same IP address) are connected to
> > say port one, and port 12 of the hub; when the hub detects a loss of
> > link, or a poor link status (user defined 'poor'), it disconnects one
> > machine and connects the other. We're utilizing this concept on our
> > radius boxes, because it allows us to reboot them daily without any
> > interuption in service (one at noon, one at midnight kinda deal).
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> can you please tell more about this or point me to some useful info?
> which hub does support this?
> 
> is it possible to switch over by hand/script, if one maschine fails but the network still up?
> 
> thanks
> sven
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Hello all,

I just received FreeBSD 4.0, and I am trying to get X Window (in particular, 
xdm) to read my .xsession file.  

First, here is my .xsession file.  This one is from another machine
I have running FreeBSD 3.4:

#!/bin/sh
# $XConsortium: xinitrc.cpp,v 1.4 91/08/22 11:41:34 rws Exp $

userresources=$HOME/.Xresources
usermodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap
sysresources=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xresources
sysmodmap=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap

# merge in defaults and keymaps

if [ -f $sysresources ]; then
    xrdb -merge $sysresources
fi

if [ -f $sysmodmap ]; then
    xmodmap $sysmodmap
fi

if [ -f $userresources ]; then
    xrdb -merge $userresources
fi

if [ -f $usermodmap ]; then
    xmodmap $usermodmap
fi

# start some nice programs

xterm -geometry 80x24-240+180 &
blackbox


It is not reading my .xsession file, so everytime I try to login,
xdm just returns me back to the login screen.  I checked to make sure my 
.xsession file was executable (it was-- chmod 544), and even tried linking 
.xsession to .xinitrc (didn't work).  Startx runs fine with
any of my installed window managers, so I at least know that X Window
is working.  Could this be a problem with my path (or lack thereof)?

Thank you in advance!

Kevin Weiss
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> "PIII/Xeon" means "Pentium-III Xeon processor", not "PIII or Xeon
> processors".

Gotcha.

> > As far as the database using all 4 processors, any threaded program
*could*
> > use them, couldn't they?
>
> Not unless it's designed to do so.  I don't believe that Postgres is/does.

Yes, it is and it does (see Alfred's post).

> Buy something smaller.  Benchmark your application, and determine what
> your performance requirements are.  Make appropriate purchasing decisions
> based on quantifiable results.

Well, we have done this, we are upgrading, not starting from scratch.

A dual system would work great, however I need a 64-Bit PCI slot to hold
this Ultra 160 SCSI controller *and* I'd like to avoid spending $2500 in
RDRAM to get what we already have in SDRAM :-)

It's impossible, from what I've read to get exactly what I'm looking for..
It seems I'm going to have to put up with my drives running at half speed,
or invest a lot more money in RAM.

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> After that, postgreSQL refused to run because the socket
> (/tmp/s.postgres.5432 or some name like that) was "in use". I had to
> delete the file and reboot to make it work. I could get rid of the file
> without problem by simply rm-ing it.

You really didn't need to reboot.  After you rm'ed the file, just run the
startup script pgsql.sh.  It will fire right up.

>
> This doesn't look right: it's too much manual work.
>
> Does this mean I'll have to do that every time my server crashes? Can't
> the file automatically be deleted at startup, before the postgreSQL
> demon starts up?
>

It is a little risky, but I just modified the above script to check for the
existence of the file and rm the thing if it exists.  Since the script is
really only intended to be executed at boot time, and you need to have
rootly type privs to remove the file, I don't see it as that big of a deal.
Especially, when you catch the "crashitus" that sometimes goes around.

Harold



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Somebody get this domain out of the list!

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Well ...
It is horrible! Simply horrible! Where the hell do I get the right informations what
kernel option is necessary for either IPFILTER or IPFIREWALL? The machine I use is really slow
and any experiment takes about 30 minutes to recompile a kernel, so changing something four times means
two hours of useless work!

Dummynet will not work with IPFIREWALL ... where is this problem mentioned in the documentation?

Well, I need some clue!

Thanks a lot!

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Is this the kernel setting to dislable ctrl-alt-delete from resetting 
a systtem? If so it seems to be broken in 4.0-RELEASE.
is there another way of doing this? remaping keyboard perhaps?


# BROKEN_KEYBOARD_RESET disables the use of the keyboard controller to
# reset the CPU for reboot.  This is needed on some systems with broken
# keyboard controllers.

Thanks in advance

Richard Puga
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The option you're looking for is:

options         SC_DISABLE_REBOOT

BROKEN_KEYBOARD_RESET is used for something else.  :)

Cheers,
Marc

On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 04:29:40AM -1000, FreeBSD MAIL wrote:
> Is this the kernel setting to dislable ctrl-alt-delete from resetting 
> a systtem? If so it seems to be broken in 4.0-RELEASE.
> is there another way of doing this? remaping keyboard perhaps?
> 
> 
> # BROKEN_KEYBOARD_RESET disables the use of the keyboard controller to
> # reset the CPU for reboot.  This is needed on some systems with broken
> # keyboard controllers.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Richard Puga
> puga@mauibuilt.com


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On Fri, 12 May 2000, FreeBSD MAIL wrote:

> Is this the kernel setting to dislable ctrl-alt-delete from resetting 
> a systtem? If so it seems to be broken in 4.0-RELEASE.
> is there another way of doing this? remaping keyboard perhaps?
> 
> 

To disable ctrl-alt-del rebooting the system, use:

options         SC_DISABLE_REBOOT  # For the syscons driver
(see sc(4))

-or-

comment out:
#options         PCVT_CTRL_ALT_DEL  # For the pcvt driver
(see pcvt(4))


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Sorry for the stupid quiestion. I figured it out from LINT that is the 
options         SC_DISABLE_REBOOT       # disable reboot key sequence

Thanks 

Richard Puga
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This is my dump command,

dump -0ua -f /dev/nrsa0 /

This is the restore command.  I'm using a fresh tape.
What am I doing wrong?  I've not dumped onto any other
tapes.  I presume it's some kind of tape head reading
position thing but I cannot move any further solving this.

root@host /tmp# mt rewind                  
root@host /tmp# restore -i -v -f /dev/nrsa0
Verify tape and initialize maps
Tape block size is 32
Dump   date: Fri May 12 11:20:01 2000
Dumped from: the epoch
Level 0 dump of / on host.profero.com:/dev/da0s1a
Label: none
Extract directories from tape
Initialize symbol table.
restore > cd usr/local/etc/amanda/DailySet1
restore > add amanda.conf
warning: ./usr: File exists
warning: ./usr/local: File exists
warning: ./usr/local/etc: File exists
warning: ./usr/local/etc/amanda: File exists
warning: ./usr/local/etc/amanda/DailySet1: File exists
restore > extract
Extract requested files
You have not read any tapes yet.
Unless you know which volume your file(s) are on you should start
with the last volume and work towards the first.
Specify next volume #: 


many thanks
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How can I redirect www requests from the modem interface on one host to
another host on my local network?

My current network consists of the following machines, where the "fbsd"
host also has a modem interface (tun0) with the static IP 1.1.1.1 (for
discussion's sake):
  192.168.0.1  fbsd.box.com   fbsd
  192.168.0.2 fbsd2.box.com   fbsd2

What I have tried so far is to connect to my isp using ppp and the nat
flag and then setting a filter as follows:
fbsd# ppp -nat isp
ppp ON fbsd> dial
PPP ON fbsd> set filter in 0 permit 1.1.1.1 192.168.0.2 tcp src eq 80 dst
eq 80

Unfortunately, once I set the filter, I cannot ping anywhere outside my
local network so I cannot put tcpdump to good use. Any suggestions to
either solve the problem or help get anywhere with this problem would be
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> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG

> *shrug* not really sure. The motherboards say they support 
> PIII/XEON, so I
> was wondering what your logic was behind what you said.

These motherbaords support P3 Xeons, not P3's and/or Xeons.
Xeons come currently in two different flavors, P2 and P3.


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It looks like the compaq proliant 1600 servers are being replaced 
by a new model called 'ML370' 
(http://www.compaq.com/products/servers/ProLiantml370/descriptio
n.html)
This new ML series really seem to suck with freebsd afaik. Only 
freebsd version 4.0 recogniced its onboard scsi controller, the 
kernel gives the error 'stale irq 7' while running, and the floppy drive 
is unusable. The onboard network card is usless too, as its allways 
detected with the same mac address, so you cant have two MLs 
on the same lan (not to mention it will work only at 10Mbps). 

Things with ML530 (the sucesor of Proliant 3000) doesnt look 
better, as not even 4.0 will detect its onboard scsi controller.

I only tried the GENERIC version of the kernel. Did anybody have 
the same problems with these model of servers? Does anybody 
know if a configuration change in the kernel will solve any of these 
problems? Thanks for any info you have

Regards
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You can also set this in /etc/rc.conf, works for me:
clear_tmp_enable="YES"  # Clear /tmp at startup.

Harold Pulcher - Killer Computing wrote:
> > After that, postgreSQL refused to run because the socket
> > (/tmp/s.postgres.5432 or some name like that) was "in use". I had to
> > delete the file and reboot to make it work. I could get rid of the file
> > without problem by simply rm-ing it.
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"O. Hartmann" wrote:
> 
> Well ...
> It is horrible! Simply horrible! Where the hell do I get the right informations what
> kernel option is necessary for either IPFILTER or IPFIREWALL? The machine I use is really slow
> and any experiment takes about 30 minutes to recompile a kernel, so changing something four times means
> two hours of useless work!
> 
> Dummynet will not work with IPFIREWALL ... where is this problem mentioned in the documentation?
> 
> Well, I need some clue!
> 
> Thanks a lot!
> 
> Gruss O. Hartmann
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You need IPDIVERT and IPFIREWALL options in your config file. Do NOT
have IPFILTER option enabled in your config file!! Your firewall command
will then be /sbin/ipfw. This will at least get you started. Also try
man ipfw there is a lot of good information there also.

Good Luck

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I'm attempting to use Amanda 2.4.2-beta1 on a FreeBSD 4.0 machine, with an 
Overland Data 15-slot DLT 7000 Autoloader.  The autoloader is externally 
connected to an Adaptec AHA2940U2W PCI SCSI host adapter.  The machine 
works fine with the loader, I've been able to successfully issue "mt" and 
"chio" commands.

Amanda includes some scripts that allow it to communicate with the 
autoloader, expanding the automation of the backup 
rotation.  Unfortunately, one of the recommend scripts, chg-scsi, doesn't 
compile because "required operating system environments are missing".  When 
I looked through the config.log, I found the following:

configure:5947: wait.h: No such file or directory
configure:6197: chio.h: No such file or directory
configure:6197: scsi/scsi_ioctl.h: No such file or directory
configure:6197: sys/dsreq.h: No such file or directory
configure:6197: sys/mntent.h: No such file or directory
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configure:6197: sys/scsi/scsi/ioctl.h: No such file or directory
configure:6197: sys/statfs.h: No such file or directory
configure:6197: sys/statvfs.h: No such file or directory
configure:6197: sys/tape.h: No such file or directory


Any thoughts?  Suggestions?  Pointers?

Any information would be extremely appreciated.




Oscar



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Peter Losher wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know if there is a script or a program out there that will just
> archive incoming messages (sent to an alias) in plain-text format (like
> Majordomo's archive wrapper)?  All the ones I have seen have been tied to
> mailing list managers, which is fine for mailing lists, but I would like
> to archive incoming messages to addresses that are not mailing lists.

	Well, if you like the way majordomo does it, just use majordomo. :) It
doesn't care how many people are on the "list," so you can easily have a
list of one address and still get the archiving ability. 

Good luck,

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I sent this in yesterday, but got no response.  Any ideas?

I am getting the following error after I upgraded from 3.4 to 4.0 on my
Firewall server:

tl0: got an invalid interrupt!
tl1: got an invalid interrupt!

Network services seem ok, but it is throwing this error constantly.

It is a cvsup of 4.0 -stable as of a few days ago.  

The hardware is a compaq 1850r server with the embedded tl nic and a tl
addon card.  

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Chris

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	For future reference, you shouldn't crosspost to -questions and -isp.

Jim Weeks wrote:
> 
> A little delayed reaction but something I have been thinking about for a
> while.
> 
> The idea has been kicked around that 32mb for / and 20mb for /var is a
> little outdated.  Not only in this thread but previously.

	That depends on what you're doing with the machine. I use 256M for both
on my production machines. That leaves plenty of room for development
kernels, lots of log history, etc. 

> The point is that I do feel it is silly to keep them so small in the days
> of multi gig drives, which brings me to ask.  In the days of 500mb to 1gig
> of Ram is the idea of doubling that in swap space still a good practice?

	You want at least up to the size of the installed ram, plus some so
that if you ever need to enable dumping there will be enough room. 

HTH,

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On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 11:37:38AM +0000, Bart Lateur wrote:

> First of all, I've already installed a few apps, and most of the ports I
> have on my local system (in /usr/ports/), are already out of date. So I
> have doubts if it's any use for keeping a rather complete ports tree on
> disk at all?

As others have said, you should use cvsup to keep your ports
collection up-to-date.

> Second: why are the ports distributed as a subtree with lots of small
> files? That doesn't make sense. Downloading the files for a port from

Everyone else seems to have misunderstood your point here.  You're
talking about downloading the Ports Collection, not the stuff you need
to build the port once you have it (i.e. the distfiles), right?

Most FTP servers, including ftp.freebsd.org, support on-the-fly
tar archiving.  You can "cd /pub/FreeBSD/ports" and "get ports.tar"
and get one huge tar file:

> /usr/ports/databases/postgresql.tar.gz . One fetch, you have your port.
> untar and ungzip, and you're ready to install. 

ftp ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/databases/postgresql.tar

...

150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for 'postgresql.tar'.
226 Transfer complete.
73728 bytes received in 0.52 seconds (138.37 KB/s)
221 Goodbye!

> Small files waste a lot of disk space (say, 32k of disk space for a file
> of 200 bytes). That way I'm not surprised that the ports tree takes

UNIX filesystems are designed to handle small files efficiently.
The allocation unit is tunable, typically 512 or 1024 bytes, and
does not automatically get bigger for bigger disks.

Matt

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I trying to setup NATD and IPFW and im not getting very far.
I'm using FreeBSD-4.0.
My gateway server is connected to the internet (fxp0) and it is also =
connected to my network (fxp1)
I am trying to get natd to divert my internal network 192.168.1.0 =
through my gateway so that my internal network can see the internet, but =
for some reason its not working.

I compiled my Kernal with:
options IPFIREWALL
options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
options IPDIVERT

This is what my rc.conf file looks like:

ifconfig_fxp0=3D"inet 206.163.165.1  netmask 255.255.255.224"
ifconfig_fxp1=3D"inet 192.168.1.1  netmask 255.255.255.0"
gateway_enable=3D"YES"
defaultrouter=3D"206.163.165.30"
named_enable=3D"YES"
network_interfaces=3D"lo0 fxp0 fxp1"
hostname=3D"gw.northwesttechnical.com"
natd_enable=3DYES
natd_interface=3D"fxp0"
natd_flags=3D"-f /etc/natd.conf"
firewall_enable=3DYES
firewall_type=3Dopen
firewall_quiet=3DYES

This is my natd.conf file:

interface fxp0
deny_incoming yes
use_sockets yes
same_ports yes


If anyone has any ideas here let me know.

Thanks...


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I trying to setup NATD and IPFW and im =
not getting=20
very far.


I'm using FreeBSD-4.0.


My gateway server is connected to the =
internet=20
(fxp0) and it is also connected to my network (fxp1)


I am trying to get natd to divert my =
internal=20
network 192.168.1.0 through my gateway so that my internal network can =
see the=20
internet, but for some reason its not working.


 


I compiled my Kernal with:


options IPFIREWALL
options=20
IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
options IPDIVERT


This is what my rc.conf file looks =

like:


 


ifconfig_fxp0=3D"inet =
206.163.165.1  netmask=20
255.255.255.224"
ifconfig_fxp1=3D"inet 192.168.1.1  netmask=20
255.255.255.0"
gateway_enable=3D"YES"
defaultrouter=3D"206.163.165.=
30"
named_enable=3D"YES"
network_interfaces=3D"lo0=20
fxp0=20
fxp1"
hostname=3D"gw.northwesttechnical.com"
natd_enable=3DYES
n=
atd_interface=3D"fxp0"
natd_flags=3D"-f=20
/etc/natd.conf"
firewall_enable=3DYES
firewall_type=3Dopen

firewall_quiet=3DYES


 


This is my natd.conf file:


 


interface fxp0
deny_incoming =
yes


use_sockets yes
same_ports =
yes


 


 


If anyone has any ideas here let me=20
know.


 


Thanks...


 


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Matt Rohrer wrote:

> I'm looking for a chat server to install on our machine to provide a
> forum for students to meet with each other and their instructors. I
> was thinking of a java based ap. that users could access through their
> browser rather than just setting up an IRC server and having them
> learn another program. I'm not stuck on java, though, if anyone has
> other ideas. Just wondering if anyone else has set up something
> similar, and if so, what it was. Thanks again.

There is a Java based IRC client somewhere, so it does actually use an
IRC server behind the scenes, but the users needn't know that, they can
just use it from their web browser.  This has the bonus that people who
do know how to use a more featureful IRC client can use that to take
part.  See , apparently it costs $40 (US) which
isn't that much.

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Do a 'ipfw show' as root.  
That will make sure that your firewall is running and the correct rules
are loaded (look for the divert rule).

Did you set up clients on the 192.168.1.x network to use
192.168.1.1 as their gateway (and as their DNS)?

Rudy

On Fri, 12 May 2000, Jeremy Warner wrote:

> I trying to setup NATD and IPFW and im not getting very far.
> I'm using FreeBSD-4.0.
> My gateway server is connected to the internet (fxp0) and it is also connected to my network (fxp1)
> I am trying to get natd to divert my internal network 192.168.1.0 through my gateway so that my internal network can see the internet, but for some reason its not working.
> 
> I compiled my Kernal with:
> options IPFIREWALL
> options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
> options IPDIVERT
> 
> This is what my rc.conf file looks like:
> 
> ifconfig_fxp0="inet 206.163.165.1  netmask 255.255.255.224"
> ifconfig_fxp1="inet 192.168.1.1  netmask 255.255.255.0"
> gateway_enable="YES"
> defaultrouter="206.163.165.30"
> named_enable="YES"
> network_interfaces="lo0 fxp0 fxp1"
> hostname="gw.northwesttechnical.com"
> natd_enable=YES
> natd_interface="fxp0"
> natd_flags="-f /etc/natd.conf"
> firewall_enable=YES
> firewall_type=open
> firewall_quiet=YES
> 
> This is my natd.conf file:
> 
> interface fxp0
> deny_incoming yes
> use_sockets yes
> same_ports yes
> 
> 
> If anyone has any ideas here let me know.
> 
> Thanks...
> 
> 



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/usr/ports/irc/ircd-hybrid installed real easy for me.  I remember having
trouble with one of the other ports about 4 months ago.  

ircd.conf is a whole new configuration style to learn (if you have never
configured an irc server before).  

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I am trying to access a cvs repository with the cvsweb port on
4.0-STABLE but I get error messages like:

Error: Unexpected output from cvs co: cvs checkout: Sorry, you don't
have read/write access to the history file cvs [checkout aborted]:
/home/cvsroot/CVSROOT/history: Permission denied write-access to the
CVSROOT/history file if it exists.
The script needs to place lock files in the directory the file is in as
well.

The cvsweb.cgi program is installed as 555 owned by root:wheel.  All the
directories in the repository are 775 owned by user1:wheel and all files
are 555 owned by user1:wheel.  The history file is 664

I assume the script reference is to the cvsweb.cgi perl program.
Shouldn't it be able to write to the history file (664) and place locks
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I can get a copy of a file if I change the history permissions to 666
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In message <200005121429.EAA13692@mauibuilt.com> FreeBSD MAIL writes:
: Is this the kernel setting to dislable ctrl-alt-delete from resetting 
: a systtem? If so it seems to be broken in 4.0-RELEASE.
: is there another way of doing this? remaping keyboard perhaps?
:
: # BROKEN_KEYBOARD_RESET disables the use of the keyboard controller to
: # reset the CPU for reboot.  This is needed on some systems with broken
: # keyboard controllers.

No.  The hot key squence CAD will reboot the system.  Or rather it
will cause the init process to get a signal that causes it to reboot
the system.

BROKEN_KEYBOARD_RESET does something different.  In the IBM PC and
newer compatible machines, the keyboard controller part is connected
to a lot of different things, including the reset line to the CPU.
Generally one can get a fairly clean reset of the CPU by telling the
keyboard controller micro controller to reset the CPU with a nice
pulse downt he reset line.  Some keyboard controllers didn't think
this was important enough to get right, so they don't implement this
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of machines and some pentium laptops (exceptions to the rule exist)
where the keyboard controller was still a 8042 microcontroller
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this is what I get:
#ipfw show

00100 105  6310 divert 8668 ip from any to any via fxp0
00100   0     0 allow ip from any to any via lo0
00200   0     0 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8
65000 174 10308 allow ip from any to any
65535   0     0 deny ip from any to any

With these settings the gateway can ping the 192.168.1.x network but it can
not ping anything on 206.163.165.x (aside form 206.163.165.1)
If  I do a ipfw delete 100 then the gateway can ping anything in both
directions.

and yes my 192.168.1.x clients are configured correctly.
from my 192.168.1.x network I can ping 192.168.1.1 and 206.163.165.1 but
know further.

i've made no changes in my rc.firewall file.  are there setting that need to
be setup in here? it is just set to the default config right now.

----- Original Message -----
From: Rudy Rucker 
To: Jeremy Warner 
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 3:09 AM
Subject: Re: IPFW and NATD question


>
> Do a 'ipfw show' as root.
> That will make sure that your firewall is running and the correct rules
> are loaded (look for the divert rule).
>
> Did you set up clients on the 192.168.1.x network to use
> 192.168.1.1 as their gateway (and as their DNS)?
>
> Rudy
>
> On Fri, 12 May 2000, Jeremy Warner wrote:
>
> > I trying to setup NATD and IPFW and im not getting very far.
> > I'm using FreeBSD-4.0.
> > My gateway server is connected to the internet (fxp0) and it is also
connected to my network (fxp1)
> > I am trying to get natd to divert my internal network 192.168.1.0
through my gateway so that my internal network can see the internet, but for
some reason its not working.
> >
> > I compiled my Kernal with:
> > options IPFIREWALL
> > options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
> > options IPDIVERT
> >
> > This is what my rc.conf file looks like:
> >
> > ifconfig_fxp0="inet 206.163.165.1  netmask 255.255.255.224"
> > ifconfig_fxp1="inet 192.168.1.1  netmask 255.255.255.0"
> > gateway_enable="YES"
> > defaultrouter="206.163.165.30"
> > named_enable="YES"
> > network_interfaces="lo0 fxp0 fxp1"
> > hostname="gw.northwesttechnical.com"
> > natd_enable=YES
> > natd_interface="fxp0"
> > natd_flags="-f /etc/natd.conf"
> > firewall_enable=YES
> > firewall_type=open
> > firewall_quiet=YES
> >
> > This is my natd.conf file:
> >
> > interface fxp0
> > deny_incoming yes
> > use_sockets yes
> > same_ports yes
> >
> >
> > If anyone has any ideas here let me know.
> >
> > Thanks...
> >
> >


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In the last episode (May 12), Peter Losher said:
> 
> Does anyone know if there is a script or a program out there that
> will just archive incoming messages (sent to an alias) in plain-text
> format (like Majordomo's archive wrapper)?  All the ones I have seen
> have been tied to mailing list managers, which is fine for mailing
> lists, but I would like to archive incoming messages to addresses
> that are not mailing lists.

Just have procmail archive them:

	:0: c
	Mail/archivefile

That'll copy all incoming mails to Mail/archive, and leave the message
in your inbox as well.

If you want the messages archived but don't want to modify any of the
recipients' procmailrc files, just add another recipient to the alias
and have it deliver directly to a file:

	myalias: user1, user2, /usr/mail/archives/myalias.mbox


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Hi everyone!!
I'm new on this list, let me introduce myself... I'm Ramon, actually working as
a Webmaster and Telecommunications Manager at Universidad Iberoamericana Golfo
Centro, in Puebla, Mexico.

Well, now... the technical questions...

I have installed NAT on a Pentium MMX Machine... FreeBSD 3.4 - Release....
i have configured kernel, i have configured rc.conf, rc.firewall
I'm using an A Class on my non-trusted network...

Since i have my NAT on a experimental phase, i have a few computers inside the
NAT, and my servers are outside...

I have NT, Novell, Solaris servers... the machines inside the NAT can connect to
the three kinds of servers... but sometimes i have disconnection messages from
Novell server, and no connection messages from NT server... but it connects!

Once i put inside the servers and it seems that the net work very well, but when
i put them outside began these small problems...
On TCP/IP (Internet), there is no problem...

I need to mention that these disconnections not happen all time... some hour in
the day, or some day in the week...

I think i have told, on my bad english, what are my troubles... can anybody help
me to fix these errors!?

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We're buying a new computer at work and plan to have it dual booting Windoze and
FreeBSD. The Central Purchasing Beauracracy(TM) wants to use a Dell Dimension
XPS T. Has anyone had any problems with Dell's and FreeBSD? Or Dell's in
general?

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Hello,

I installed 4.0 on a new machine today, and I'm getting an unusual error 
message:

May 13 03:57:21 wally01 /kernel: microuptime() went backwards (5330.103250 
-> 5330,-695252625)
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| I think i have told, on my bad english, what are my troubles... can anybody help
| me to fix these errors!?
| 

You might need to add 'use_sockets' and 'same_ports' to your natd configuration.

| 

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George Sollish wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 11 May 2000, David Heller wrote:
> 
> > I just looked at the install script and I think I see the problem It has
> > to do with the part where it performs uname -s to check which OS you are
> > installing on. You have to change the "if" test for /bin/uname -s to
> > /usr/bin/uname -s otherwise the install script will fail.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dave
> 
> Thanks Dave, that got me through the install.  Now xnview exits with a
> 'shared object not found' error.  Its looking for libXm.so.1, which is
> indeed not on my 4.0-R box.  Can you tell me where you picked up this
> library?
> 
> Thanks much.
> 
> George E Sollish        Chief Engineer           Auto Gear Equipment
>                         Host                     Classic-FM's Listening Room
>                         Project Manager          The Payne Lake Project

Its part of the Lesstif port (Motif lookalike) Hopefully that should
take care of everything for you.

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> Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 12:07:47 +0200
> From: "Dave Wilson" 
> Subject: Ipmasqing/natd ??
> 
> Hi guys, howzit going ?
> 
> With Linux I have used IPmasqing to connect a LAN to the Internet via a
> Linux box that has a permanent connection to the internet using a modem. (ie
> dedicated or leased 33.6K analogue
> How can I do the same with FreeBSD, using pppd ?
[...]

You'll probably find it easier to get it working if you use ppp rather 
than pppd.  ppp has NAT and filtering built in.

man ppp, and see the appropriate handbook chapter (15) at 
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ 

-- Bob
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I installed 3.1 from walnut cds and upgraded it using cvsup to 3.4 recently
on a PIII 550MHz Dell Dimension XPS T and I was getting lot of silo
overflow errors in both releases of FreeBSD using the serial port (for an
external modem). After tearing my hair out trying to find the reason for
the silo overflows including installing a second serial port I came across
a post that spoke about that intel chipset having odd behaviour (and silo
overflows) when DMA is not turned on when configuring the IDE controller in
the FreeBSD hardware setup screen.

Once I did what the post suggested (which included turning off legacy USB
in the bios setup) the silo overflows are virtually gone, although not 100%.

I have the post here somewhere, let me know if you need more info and I'll
dig it up. You could say I didn't enjoy the experience, particularly since
Dell would only talk to me if it had win98 on it as it arrived here. I gave
up on trying to get X working with the ATI Rage 128 Pro after about a week
that included upgrading XFree86 to 3.3.6 from ports because I got too busy
and the machine's job under FreeBSD is mostly as an apache and mysql server
and my experience getting X working is very limited.

Cheers...John

>We're buying a new computer at work and plan to have it dual booting
>Windoze and FreeBSD. The Central Purchasing Beauracracy(TM) wants to
>use a Dell Dimension XPS T. Has anyone had any problems with Dell's
>and FreeBSD? Or Dell's in general?
>
>-B
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Ramon:

Hola, mi nombre es Eric De La Cruz Lugo del ITESO en Guadalajara, aunque
actualmente estoy en Merida, Yucatan.
 
seria interesante que colocaras tu duda en el foro de Unix del Club BBS
del iteso, solo teclea: telnet club.gdl.iteso.mx
 
te das de alta como usuario nuevo y en unas 24 horas te activan para poder
poner mensajes en el foro de Unix, y el foro de Redes y Protocolos,  el
BBS funciona en FreeBSD, la otra opcion es que le comentes tu problema al
Ing. Hector Gonzalez (Cacho) en el Centro de Computo del ITESO.
 
el tiene mucha experiencia en FreeBSD y redes, es posible que el te pueda
orientar para encontrar solucion a tu problema.
 
saludos, desde Merida, Yucatan, Mexico.

Eric De La Cruz Lugo.
 
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In terms of allowing internal clients to access hosts 
through the firewall to pcAnywhere hosts on the outside.

What TCP/UDP ports do I need to setup rules for?

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On Thu, 11 May 2000, Bart Lateur wrote:

> I looked up WD8003 and it brought me to a page about MCA. The MCA
> architecture isn't supported, I'm afraid. See the bottom line on
> .

IIRC Matthew Hunt has done a lot of work to bring MCA support to FreeBSD,
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| What TCP/UDP ports do I need to setup rules for?

From pcAnywhere knowledgebase:

"If the host and remote are separated by a firewall
you may encounter problems connecting. pcANYWHERE32 
communicates through the UDP protocol and sends directed 
packets. 
  pcANYWHERE32 uses four ports: 22, 65301, 5631, and 5632. 
These ports must be open to enable a connection."

| 

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From: Giorgos Keramidas 
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On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 05:43:44PM -0400, Steffen Vorrix wrote:
> Here is the client side firewall ruleset:
> 
> 00010 1047807  694950842 divert 8668 ip from any to any via fxp0
> 00015 2106420 1391179792 allow ip from any to any
> 65535       4        630 deny ip from any to any
> 
> I have also opened up the server side completely with the following ruleset.
> 
> 00010  63013227 25044329410 divert 8668 ip from any to any via fxp0
> 65000 119486149 49311863501 allow ip from any to any
> 65535         0           0 deny ip from any to any

If even with these rules in place, you still can not connect from machine A to
machine B, one of two things can be the case:

1. Some machine "between" A and B is filtering out traffic.
2. Some other problem in the network setup of either A or B exists.

With 'allow ip from any to any', the two machines are definitely not blocking
*any* traffic at all.

- giorgos


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Thanks to all who replied to my question. Looks like Ben's suggestion
is the best; I'll know for sure after some more testing. Thanks again.

On Fri, 12 May 2000, Ben Smithurst wrote

> Matt Rohrer wrote:
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> > I'm looking for a chat server to install on our machine to provide a
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> 
> There is a Java based IRC client somewhere, so it does actually use an
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> 

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On Thu, 11 May 2000, Salvo Bartolotta wrote:

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Hello,

I'm currently pondering on getting a DEC Alpha machine so I can run a
version of UNIX on it (be it one of the BSDs, Tru64 UNIX or Linux) for
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I just need a basic machine, nothing very powerful nor loaded with gigs of
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On Fri, 12 May 2000, Dan Nelson wrote:

> Just have procmail archive them:
> 
> 	:0: c
> 	Mail/archivefile
> 
> That'll copy all incoming mails to Mail/archive, and leave the message
> in your inbox as well.

Thanks (to you and the others) for their suggestions, while I am on the
topic, is there a way to archive the messages individually (instead of
making a mbox file).

Perhaps a MHonArc that outputs just text, instead of HTML? (and w/o the
index pages)...

Thanks and Best Wishes - Peter Losher

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Hi,

PCAnywhere uses the following ports for connections:

5631 incoming traffic
5632 outgoing traffic

These are required if you are going through a firewall (ipfw).

Have Fun...
Ales

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 3:03 PM
Subject: Symantec pcAnywhere through firewall


> In terms of allowing internal clients to access hosts
> through the firewall to pcAnywhere hosts on the outside.
>
> What TCP/UDP ports do I need to setup rules for?
>
> Regards
> ------------
> Dan Larsson
>
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I have a freebsd 4.0 installation on a NexGen/VLB -cpu/board. When t try to
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Fri May 12 14:41:27 2000
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	Why the DEL key deletes the character before the cursor (just like
BackSpace) instead of deleting the character after the cursor? Only in
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the cursor. Nevertheless the assignments for DEL and BS in it.iso.kbd (the
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   014   bs     bs     del    del    bs     bs     del    del     O

   083   del    '.'    '.'    '.'    '.'    '.'    boot   boot    N
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I have a box running 2.2.8 release and I need to get it to 4.0 What is
the best way to accomplish this via cvsup??


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I installed FreeBSD4.0 and XFree86 4.0 (because XFree 3.3.x doesn't support
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In message , Pet
er Losher wrote:
} On Fri, 12 May 2000, Dan Nelson wrote:
} 
} > Just have procmail archive them:
} > 
} > 	:0: c
} > 	Mail/archivefile
} > 
} > That'll copy all incoming mails to Mail/archive, and leave the message
} > in your inbox as well.
} 
} Thanks (to you and the others) for their suggestions, while I am on the
} topic, is there a way to archive the messages individually (instead of
} making a mbox file).

:0c: 
Mail/archivedir/

Note the trailing slash.  This will cause procmail to put the mail in
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separate file.  It'll start with a file named "1" and count upwards
from there.  Of course, make sure Mail/archivedir is a directory :)

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[Trimmed -stable from the reply list.]

On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 05:53:02PM -0400, Serial # 19781010 wrote:
> I have a box running 2.2.8 release and I need to get it to 4.0 What is
> the best way to accomplish this via cvsup??

The best answer is don't do that.

If you really really want to, you should be able to upgrade to 3.0 with
a make upgrade (a fairly scarry, but effective target), then upgrade to
3.4-STABLE via an normal make world (I'm not sure, you may want to
upgrade from 3.0 to 3.1 first), then upgrade to 4.0-RELEASE following
the instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING, and finaly upgrading to
4.0-STABLE using a standard make world.  This will likely require in
excess of 24 hours of CPU time just to do the builds.

You don't want to do this!  Foot shooting opportunities exist all over
the place.  You'll need to read the -stable archives for the months
surrounding each of those upgrades to get a handle on all of them.  This
is definalty a good time for a backup and clean install.

-- Brooks

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newly installed 4.0 cdrom=20
recompiled kernel :
pseudo-device      tun       1   #Packet tunnel.

ifconfig    -a

no tunnel devices appear
=20
   thanks
        damon

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newly installed 4.0 cdrom 


recompiled kernel :


pseudo-device     =20
tun       1   #Packet=20
tunnel.


 


ifconfig    =
-a


 


no tunnel devices appear


 


   thanks


       =20
damon


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You need to start something that will activate the tunnel device.  For
example:

tun0: flags=8051 mtu 1500
        inet 196.34.156.40 --> 168.209.6.65 netmask 0xffffff00 
        Opened by PID 65

root     65  0.0  1.2  2288  344  ??  Ss    6:43PM   0:43.99 ppp -auto -qu

You should get the idea from this...  ;)

Cheers,
Marc

On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 02:10:35PM -0000, damon wrote:
> newly installed 4.0 cdrom 
> recompiled kernel :
> pseudo-device      tun       1   #Packet tunnel.
> 
> ifconfig    -a
> 
> no tunnel devices appear
>  
>    thanks
>         damon


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In message  Serial # 19781010 writes:
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Upgrade to 3.2 release via source.  Then upgrade to the latest
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>
> ATI all in wonder 128 - rage 128 xper 128 card well), but Netscape cannot 
> run in XFree86 4.0, because it needs aoutlib of XFree86 3.3.3. I found a
> port of Netscape, it's same.
> 
	If you have added the compat3.3 package from FreeBSD4.0, and you
   had the a.out compatability libraries built/installed, then add the
   following to "/usr/local/bin/netscape":

	export LD_LIBRARY_PATH; LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${LD_LIBRARY_PATH_AOUT}

    wgere LD_LIBRARY_PATH_AOUT looks like:

		/usr/lib/compat/aout:/usr/X11R6/lib/aout

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Let me rephrase this.  Can someone tell me what I can do to
correct the problem with my .xsession file?

Kevin Weiss
kweiss@jump.net

>Hello all,
>
>I just received FreeBSD 4.0, and I am trying to get X Window (in particular, 
>xdm) to read my .xsession file.  
>
>First, here is my .xsession file.  This one is from another machine
>I have running FreeBSD 3.4:
>
>#!/bin/sh
># $XConsortium: xinitrc.cpp,v 1.4 91/08/22 11:41:34 rws Exp $
>
>userresources=$HOME/.Xresources
>usermodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap
>sysresources=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xresources
>sysmodmap=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap
>
># merge in defaults and keymaps
>
>if [ -f $sysresources ]; then
>    xrdb -merge $sysresources
>fi
>
>if [ -f $sysmodmap ]; then
>    xmodmap $sysmodmap
>fi
>
>if [ -f $userresources ]; then
>    xrdb -merge $userresources
>fi
>
>if [ -f $usermodmap ]; then
>    xmodmap $usermodmap
>fi
>
># start some nice programs
>
>xterm -geometry 80x24-240+180 &
>blackbox
>
>
>It is not reading my .xsession file, so everytime I try to login,
>xdm just returns me back to the login screen.  I checked to make sure my 
>.xsession file was executable (it was-- chmod 544), and even tried linking 
>.xsession to .xinitrc (didn't work).  Startx runs fine with
>any of my installed window managers, so I at least know that X Window
>is working.  Could this be a problem with my path (or lack thereof)?
>
>Thank you in advance!
>
>Kevin Weiss
>kweiss@jump.net
>
>
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Subject: Re: DEL key acts like BackSpace
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Hey buddy,

I have yet to try this, but check out this webpage:
http://www.ibbnet.nl/~anne/keyboard.html

Kevin Weiss
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>	Why the DEL key deletes the character before the cursor (just like
>BackSpace) instead of deleting the character after the cursor? Only in
>Netscape Navigator's location bar DEL deletes the characters to the right of
>the cursor. Nevertheless the assignments for DEL and BS in it.iso.kbd (the
>keymap file I use) seem to be correct: 
>
>   014   bs     bs     del    del    bs     bs     del    del     O
>
>   083   del    '.'    '.'    '.'    '.'    '.'    boot   boot    N
>         ^^^
>
>I have a 105-keys italian keyboard and I use bash 2.03.0(1)-release and
>FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE.
>
>	Francesco Casadei, from Italy
>
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> 
> But to my question... will the latest -RELEASE or -CURRENT run on the
> DS10? Would anyone have any suggestions on a cheap but somewhat newer
> Alpha machine?
> 
	Here is what the HARDWARE.TXT has to say about ALPHA machines:


In general, what do you need to run FreeBSD/alpha? 
--------------------------------------------------

Obviously you will need an Alpha machine that FreeBSD/alpha knows about.
Alpha machines are NOT like PCs. There are considerable differences
between the various chip sets and mainboard designs. This means that a kernel
needs to know the intimate details of a particular machine before it can run
on it. Throwing some odd GENERIC kernel at unknown hardware is almost
guaranteed to fail miserably.

For a machine even to be considered for FreeBSD use please make sure it has
the SRM console firmware installed. Or at least make sure that SRM console 
firmware is available for this particular model. If FreeBSD does not
currently support your machine type, there is a good chance that this will
change some time, assuming there is a SRM available.

Machines with the ARC/AlphaBIOS console firmware are intended for 
WindowsNT. Some of them have SRM firmware available in the system ROMs 
which you only have to select (via an ARC/AlphaBIOS menu). In other cases 
you will have to re-flash the ROMs with SRM code. Check on
http://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware to see what is available
for your particular system. In any case: no SRM -> no FreeBSD (or NetBSD, 
OpenBSD, Tru64 Unix or OpenVMS for that matter). With the demise of
WindowsNT/alpha a lot of former NT boxes are sold on the second hand
market. They have little or no trade-in value when they are NT-only from the
console perspective. So, be suspicious if the price appears too good.
Known non-SRM machines are the Digital XL266/XLT300, the Samsung PC164UX
and 164BX.


	The DS10 is listed as one of the machines FreeBSD runs on. It
   lists several more, of course. You probably should get a copy of 
   this file (/usr/src/release/texts/alpha/HARDWARE.TXT) so you can read
   the supported hardware for yourself, and decide where to go from 
   there.

								Bruce


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Hi all, =


I'm considering using SSLftp to ftp files to my local ISP.  However, i'm =
not
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SSLftp a client program only or it is a server program -- meaning in orde=
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How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions.
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Last update 3 September 1999

This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list.  If
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I: Introduction
===============

This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from
FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the
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       Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking
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       yet.  The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking
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In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration
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If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going
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III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers?
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Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD,
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some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask.  The
following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however:

     If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this
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     questions at http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ.html, and also on
     your own system (once you've installed it) at
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     If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure,
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     If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as
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     If you're new to FreeBSD, and the message is about your own
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There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for
example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet
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IV:  How to submit a question
=============================

When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the
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      supplying as much relevant information as possible.  You can
      influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete,
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      message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you
      follow these rules.  It's much more possible to not get an
      answer if you don't.  In the rest of this document, we'll look
      at how to get the most out of your question to
      FreeBSD-questions.

  2.  Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message:
      they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests
      them.  Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject.
      ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough.  If you provide
      no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it.  If your
      subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may
      not read it.

  3.  Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T
      SHOUT!!!!!.  We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak
      English as their first language, and we try to make allowances
      for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message
      written full of typos or without any line breaks.  A lot of
      badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly
      configured mailers.  The following mailers are known to send out
      badly formatted messages without you finding out about them:

      Eudora
      exmh
      Microsoft Exchange
      Microsoft Internet Mail
      Microsoft Outlook
      Netscape

      As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent
      offenders.  If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer.  If you must
      use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set
      up correctly.  Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers
      which don't get on very well with MIME.

      For further information on this subject, check out
      http://www.lemis.com/email.html.

  4.  Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly.  This may
      seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but
      many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred
      messages a day.  They frequently sort the incoming messages by
      subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the
      first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to
      look.

  5.  Don't include unrelated questions in the same message.  Firstly,
      a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's
      more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the
      questions to read the message.

  6.  Specify as much information as possible.  This is a difficult
      area, and we need to expand on what information you need to
      submit, but here's a start:

         If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error
         messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No
         route to host'''.

         If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say
         (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free
         vnode isn't'''.

         If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us
         what hardware you have.  In particular, it's important to
         know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in
         your machine.

         If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the
         configuration.  Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of
         authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic
         IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file?

  7.  If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see
      your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend
      the message.  Wait at least 24 hours.  The FreeBSD mailer
      offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the
      world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to
      get through.  And once it gets through, the one person who might
      know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part
      of the world.

  8.  If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there
      could be other reasons.  For example, the problem is so
      complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does
      know the answer was offline.  If you don't get an answer after,
      say, a week, it might help to re-send the message.  If you don't
      get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably
      not going to get one from this forum.  Resending the same
      message again and again will only make you unpopular.

To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following
question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-).  You choose which of
these two questions you would be more prepared to answer:


Message 1:
Subject: (none)

I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Message 2:
Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD

I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm
having a lot of difficulty installing it.  I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16
MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball
disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive.  The installation works just
fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing
Operating System".

----------------------------------------------------------------------

V: How to follow up to a question
=================================

Often you will want to send in additional information to a question
you have already sent.  The best way to do this is to reply to your
original message.  This has three advantages:

1.  You include the original message text, so people will know what
    you're talking about.  Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out,
    though.

2.  The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to
    put one in, didn't you?).  Many mailers will sort messages by
    subject.  This helps group messages together.

3.  The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the
    previous message.  Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages,
    showing the exact relationships between the messages.

VI: How to answer a question
============================

Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider:

1.  A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to
    answering questions.  Read them.

2.  Has somebody already answered the question?  The easiest way to
    check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then
    (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all
    together.

    If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean
    that you shouldn't send another answer.  But it makes sense to
    read all the other answers first.

3.  Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been
    said?  In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much,
    although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a
    problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or
    whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software.  If
    you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further
    relevant information.

4.  Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the
    person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express
    himself very well.  Even with the best understanding of the system,
    it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question.  This
    doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question
    more frustrated or confused than ever.  If nobody else answers, and
    you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more
    information.

5.  Are you sure your answer is correct?  If not, wait a day or so.
    If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply
    and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since
    nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI
    CD-ROM with a frog?".

6.  Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender
    and to FreeBSD-questions.  Many people on the FreeBSD-questions
    are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to
    by others.  If you take a message which is of general interest off
    the list, you're depriving these people of their information.  Be
    careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with
    hundreds of CCs.  If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc:
    lines appropriately.

7.  Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the
    minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for
    somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what
    you're talking about.

8.  Use some technique to identify which text came from the original
    message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending
    ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space
    after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the
    original text both make the result more readable.

9.  Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it
    replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where
    each reply comes before the text to which it replies.

10.  Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a
     text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it
     automatically, you should do it manually.

11.  If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too
     long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it.  In the case of
     an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the
     subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was:
     HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread
     will have less difficulty following it.

     In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you
     did it, but try not to be rude.  If you find you can't answer
     without being rude, don't answer.

     If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format,
     just reply to the submitter, not to the list.  You can just send
     him this message in reply, if you like.


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          Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, third edition




                         Last revision: 2 August 1999

The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page
or any other online documentation.   The  result  is  that  most  leading  edge
computer  books are out of date almost before they are printed.  Unfortunately,
``The Complete FreeBSD'', published by Walnut  Creek,  is  no  exception.   In-
evitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced.

The  following  is  a list of modifications which go beyond simple typos.  They
relate to the third edition, formatted  on  17  May  1999.   You'll  find  this
information  on  page  iv  (the  page  before  the  beginning  of  the Table of
Contents).  See the end of this document for instructions on how  to  find  the
errata for an older version.

You can get the current document in four forms:

o A     PostScript     version,     suitable     for     printing    out,    at
  ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.ps. See page 302 of the third  edition
  to  find  out  how  to print out PostScript.  If at all possible, please take
  this document: it's closest to the original text.

  Be careful selecting this file with a web browser: it is often impossible  to
  reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version.

o An enhanced ASCII version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.txt. When
  viewed with more or less,  this  version  will  show  some  highlighting  and
  underlining.  It's not suitable for direct viewing.

o An  ASCII-only  version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.ascii. This
  version is posted every week to the  FreeBSD-questions  mailing  list.   Only
  take  this version if you have real problems with PostScript: I can't be sure
  that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning.

o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-3.html.

All these modifications have been applied to the ongoing  source  text  of  the
book, so if you buy a later edition, they will be in it as well.  If you find a

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bug or a suspected bug in the book, please contact me at 

Page ii
_______

The instructions on page ii (opposite the title  page)  tell  you  to  look  at
ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2  for  the  errata  list.   That's wrong.
Look at this list.

Pages 190 and 191
_________________

The description is not very clear about which text appears  when  booting  from
floppy  for  initial  install,  and  which  appears when booting normally.  The
procedure is very similar, but there are some differences.  Add  the  following
text after the heading Boot messages:

You'll  boot  your system in at least two different ways: initially you'll boot
from floppy or CD-ROM in order to install the system.  Later, after the  system
is  installed,  you'll boot from hard disk.  The procedure is almost identical,
so we'll look at both versions in the following examples.

Replace the text from the middle of page 191 with:

If you're booting from 1.44 MB floppies, you will then see:

Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter:

When you insert the MFS root floppy and press  Enter,  you  see  more  twirling
batons, then the UserConfig screen appears.

UserConfig: Modifying the boot configuration
____________________________________________

After  the  kernel has been loaded, the following screen will appear if you are
installing the system, or if you have requested it with the -c  option  to  the
boot loader:

Page 206
________

The  bottom  two lines on this page should be in bold constant font, indicating
that this is input for your /etc/rc.config file


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nfs_client_enable="YES"       # This host is an NFS client (or NO).
nfs_server_enable="YES"       # This host is an NFS server (or NO).


Page 265
________

The example on the second half of the page refers to the old SCSI driver.   The
scsi  program  is  no  longer  available  in  FreeBSD  3.x.   Instead,  use the
camcontrol program.  Replace the text with:.

Modern disks make provisions for recovering from such errors by  allocating  an
alternate sector for the data.  IDE drives do this automatically, but with SCSI
drives you have the option of enabling or disabling reallocation.   Usually  it
is  turned on when you buy them, but occasionally it is not.  When installing a
new disk, you should check that the parameters  ARRE  (Auto  Read  Reallocation
Enable)  and AWRE (Auto Write Reallocation Enable) are turned on.  For example,
to check and set the values for disk da1, you would enter:

# camcontrol modepage da1 -m 1 -e -P 3
# scsi -f /dev/rda1c -m 1 -e -P 3

This command will start up your favourite editor (either the one  specified  in
the EDITOR environment variable, or vi by default) with the following data:

AWRE (Auto Write Reallocation Enbld):  0
ARRE (Auto Read Reallocation Enbld):  1
TB (Transfer Block):  0
RC (Read Continuous):  0
EER (Enable Early Recovery):  0
PER (Post Error):  0
DTE (Disable Transfer on Error):  0
DCR (Disable Correction):  0
Read Retry Count:  16
Correction Span:  41
Head Offset Count:  0
Data Strobe Offset Count:  0
Write Retry Count:  16
Recovery Time Limit:  0

The  values  for  AWRE  and  ARRE should both be 1.  If they aren't, as in this
case, where AWRE is 0, change the data with the editor, save it, and exit.  The
camcontrol  program will write the data back to the disk and enable the option.


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Page 331
________

The description of the config refers to the SCSI drive sd0.  This  is  the  old
name; in FreeBSD version 3, SCSI drives are called da, so this reference should
be da0.

Thanks  to  Francisco  Reyes    for  pointing  out  this
problem.

Page 362
________

Replace the text at the top of the page with:

Next, change to the build directory and build the kernel:

# cd ../../compile/FREEBIE
# make depend
# make

   The  make  depend  is needed even if the directory has just been created:
   apart from creating dependency information, it also  creates  some  files
   needed for the build.
Thanks to Mark Ovens  for drawing this to my attention,
and   to   Francisco   Reyes      and   Bill    Fumerola
  for pointing out that it still wasn't fixed in the
third edition.

Page 409
________

The information on setting the default routers specified the wrong end  of  the
PPP  links  in  some  places.  It should always be the ``far'' end of the link.
Replace the second example on page 409, and the text following  it,  with  this
text:

defaultrouter="139.130.136.129"    # Set to default gateway (or NO).
static_routes=""              # Set to static route list (or leave empty).
gateway_enable="YES"               # Set to YES if this host will be a gateway.

This  is the normal way to set the default route on a point-to-point interface.
In fact, for PPP you don't  need  to  specify  the  default  address:  the  PPP
packages will set it for you when the link comes up.  This makes it possible to

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set default routes when you're forced to use dynamic IP  addresses,  where  you
don't know the address at this point.  We'll see how PPP does this on page 446.

In the first example on page 410, the sixth example on page 412 and the  second
example on page 413, replace the defaultrouter definition with:


defaultrouter="139.130.237.65"          # Set to default gateway (or NO).


Thanks to Andreas Longwitz  for pointing out this error.

Getting errata for older editions of the book
_____________________________________________

There have been a total of five different versions of ``The Complete FreeBSD''.
The most accurate way to distinguish them is by the format date,  which  you'll
find  at  the  bottom of page iv (the page before the beginning of the Table of
Contents) in all versions of the book.

1. The first was titled ``Installing and running FreeBSD'', and  was  formatted
  on 24 February 1996.  No errata list exists for this book.

2. For  the first edition (19 July 1996), get ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/er-
  rata-1.   This   same   file   is   also   available   via   the   web   link
  http://www.lemis.com/errata-1. I am no longer updating this errata list.

3. The  list  for  the  second  edition (16 December 1997) is available in four
  forms:

  o A    PostScript    version,    suitable    for     printing     out,     at
    ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ps.  See  page  222  of  the  second
    edition to find out how to print  out  PostScript.   If  at  all  possible,
    please take this document: it's closest to the original text.

    Be  careful  selecting this file with a web browser: it is often impossible
    to reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version.

  o An enhanced ASCII  version  at  ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.txt.
    When viewed with more or less, this version will show some highlighting and
    underlining.  It's not suitable for direct viewing.

  o An ASCII-only version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ascii. This
    version  is  posted every week to the FreeBSD-questions mailing list.  Only

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    take this version if you have real problems with  PostScript:  I  can't  be
    sure that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning.

  o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-2.html.

4. The  revised  second edition was formatted on 11 February 1999.  As the name
  suggests, it's not a complete new edition: in fact, only three  chapters  are
  different:

  o The chapter ``Setting up X11'' has been brought up to date.

  o Appendix  D (``Contents of the Ports Collection'') has been replaced by two
    appendixes, ``Errata and Addenda'' (the errata list up to date at the time)
    and  ``FreeBSD  3.0'',  which describes the differences between FreeBSD 2.x
    and FreeBSD 3.x.

  There is no separate errata list for this book.  Refer to the second  edition
  errata list.

5. The  current,  third edition, formatted on 17 May 1999.  This is the correct
  list for this edition.
























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          Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition




                          Last revision: 21 June 1999

The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page
or any other online documentation.   The  result  is  that  most  leading  edge
computer  books are out of date almost before they are printed.  Unfortunately,
``The Complete FreeBSD'', published by Walnut  Creek,  is  no  exception.   In-
evitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced.

The  following  is  a list of modifications which go beyond simple typos.  They
relate to the second edition, formatted on 16 December 1997.  If you have  this
book,  please  check this list.  If you have the first edition of 19 July 1996,
please check ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-1. This  same  file  is  also
available via the web link http://www.lemis.com/.

This list is available in four forms:

o A     PostScript     version,     suitable     for     printing    out,    at
  ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ps. See page 222 of the book  to  find
  out  how  to  print  out  PostScript.   If  at all possible, please take this
  document: it's closest to the original text.

  Be careful selecting this file with a web browser: it is often impossible  to
  reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version.

o An enhanced ASCII version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.txt. When
  viewed with more or less,  this  version  will  show  some  highlighting  and
  underlining.  It's not suitable for direct viewing.

o An  ASCII-only  version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ascii. This
  version is posted every week to the  FreeBSD-questions  mailing  list.   Only
  take  this version if you have real problems with PostScript: I can't be sure
  that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning.

o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-2.html.

All these modifications have been applied to the ongoing  source  text  of  the
book, so if you buy a later edition, they will be in it as well.  If you find a

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bug or a suspected bug in the book, please contact me at 

General changes
_______________


o In a number of places, I suggest the use of the  following  command  to  find
  process information:

  $ ps aux | grep foo

  Unfortunately,  ps  is sensitive to the column width of the terminal emulator
  upon which it is working.  This command usually works fine  on  a  relatively
  wide  xterm,  but if you're running on an 80-column terminal, it may truncate
  exactly the information you're looking for, so you end  up  with  no  output.
  You can fix that with the w option:

  $ ps waux | grep foo

  Thanks to Sue Blake  for this information


Location of the sample files
____________________________

On  the  2.2.5 CD-ROM only, the location of the sample files does not match the
specifications in the book (/book on the first CD-ROM).  The 2.2.5 CD-ROM  came
out before the book, and it contains the files on the third (repository) CD-ROM
as a single gzipped tar file  /xperimnt/cfbsd/cfbsd.tar.gz.   It  contains  the
following files:

drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh           0 Oct 17 13:01 1997 cfbsd/
drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh           0 Oct 17 13:01 1997 cfbsd/mutt/
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh         352 Oct 15 15:21 1997 cfbsd/mutt/.mail_aliases
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh        9394 Oct 15 15:22 1997 cfbsd/mutt/.muttrc
drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh           0 Oct 17 14:02 1997 cfbsd/scripts/
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh       18281 Oct 16 16:52 1997 cfbsd/scripts/.fvwm2rc
-rwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh        1392 Oct 17 12:54 1997 cfbsd/scripts/install-desktop
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh         296 Oct 17 12:35 1997 cfbsd/scripts/.xinitrc
-rwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh         622 Oct 17 13:51 1997 cfbsd/scripts/install-rcfiles
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh        1133 Oct 17 13:00 1997 cfbsd/scripts/Uutry
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh        1028 Oct 17 14:02 1997 cfbsd/scripts/README
drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh           0 Oct 18 19:32 1997 cfbsd/docs/
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh      199111 Oct 16 14:29 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages.txt

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-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh      189333 Oct 16 14:28 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages-by-category.txt
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh      188108 Oct 16 14:29 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages.ps
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh      226439 Oct 16 14:27 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages-by-category.ps
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh         788 Oct 16 15:01 1997 cfbsd/README
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh         248 Oct 17 11:52 1997 cfbsd/errata

To  extract  one  of these files, say cfbsd/docs/packages.txt, and assuming you
have the CD-ROM mounted as /cdrom, enter:

# cd /usr/share/doc
# tar xvzf /cdrom/xperimnt/cfbsd/cfbsd.tar.gz cfbsd/docs/packages.txt

See page 209 for more information on using tar.

These files are an early version of what is described in the book.  I'll put up
some updated versions on ftp://ftp.lemis.com/ in the near future.

Thanks  to Frank McCormick  for drawing this to my attention.

Chapter 8: Setting up X11
_________________________

For FreeBSD 2.2.7, this chapter has changed sufficiently to make it impractical
to   distribute   errata.    You  can  download  the  PostScript  version  from
ftp://www.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/xsetup.ps,   or   the    ASCII    version    from
ftp://www.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/xsetup.txt.  No HTML version is available.

Page xxxiv
__________

Before the discussion of the shell prompts in the middle of the page, add:

In this book, I recommend the use of the Bourne shell or one of its descendents
(sh, bash, pdksh, ksh or zsh).  With the exception of sh, they are all  in  the
Ports Collection.  I personally use the bash shell.

This  is a personal preference, and a recommendation, but it's not the standard
shell.  The standard BSD shell is the  C  shell  (csh),  which  has  a  fuller-
featured  descendent  tcsh.   In particular, the standard installation sets the
root user up with a csh.  See page 152 (in this errata) for details of  how  to
change the shell.




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Page 11: Reading the handbook
_____________________________

The  CD-ROM  now includes Netscape.  Replace the last paragraph on the page and
the example on the following page with:

If you're running X, you can use a browser like netscape to read the  handbook.
If you don't have X running yet, use lynx.  Both of these programs are included
on the CD-ROM.  To install them, enter:

# pkg_add /cdrom/packages/All/netscape-communicator-4.5.tgz
or
# pkg_add /cdrom/packages/All/lynx-2.8.1.1.tgz

The numbers after the name (4.5 and 2.8.1.1) may change  after  this  book  has
been  printed.   Use  ls  to  list the names if you can't find these particular
versions.

Note that lynx is not a complete substitute for netscape:  since  it  is  text-
only,  it  is  not  capable  of  displaying  the  large  majority  of web pages
correctly.  It will suffice for reading most of the handbook, however.

Thanks to Stuart Henderson  and  for drawing this to my attention.

Page 12: Printing the handbook
______________________________

The instructions for formatting the handbook are obsolete.  Replace the section
starting Alternatively, you can print out the handbook with the following text:

Alternatively,  you  can  print  out  the  handbook.   You  need  to  have  the
documentation sources (/usr/doc) installed on your system.  You can  find  them
on the second CD-ROM in the directory of the same name.  To install them, first
mount your CD-ROM (see page 175).  Then enter:

$ cd /cdrom/usr/doc/handbook
$ mkdir -p /usr/doc/handbook            you may need to be root for this operation
$ cp -pr * /usr/doc/handbook

You have a choice of formats for the output:

o ascii will give you plain 7-bit ASCII  output,  suitable  for  reading  on  a
  character-mode terminal.

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o html will give you HTML output, suitable for browsing with a web browser.

o latex  will  give  you LATEX format, suitable for further processing with TEX
  and LATEX.

o ps will give you PostScript output, probably the best choice for printing.

o roff will give you output in troff source.  You can process this output  with
  nroff  or  troff,  but  it's  currently not very polished.  LATEX output is a
  better choice if you want to process it further.

Once you have decided your format,  use  make  to  create  the  document.   For
example, if you decide on PostScript format, you would enter:

$ make FORMATS=ps

This  creates  a  file  handbook.ps  which  you  can then print to a PostScript
printer or with the aid of ghostscript (see page 222).

Thanks to Bob Beer  for drawing this to my attention.

Page 45:  Preparing floppies for installation
_____________________________________________

Replace the paragraph below the list of file names (in the middle of the  page)
with:

The  floppy  set should contain the file bin.inf and the ones whose names start
with bin. followed by two letters.  These other  files  are  all  240640  bytes
long,  except  for the final one which is usually shorter.  Use the MS-DOS COPY
program to copy as many files as will fit onto each disk (5 or 6) until  you've
got  all  the  distributions  you  want  packed  up in this fashion.  Copy each
distribution into subdirectory corresponding to  the  base  name--for  example,
copy the bin distribution to the files A:\BIN\BIN.INF, A:\BIN\BIN.AA and so on.

Page 80 and 81
______________

In a couple of examples, the FreeBSD partition is shown as type 164.  It should
be  165.   Thanks  to an unknown contributer for this correction (sorry, I lost
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Page 88: setting up for dumping
_______________________________

The example mentions a variable savecore in /etc/rc.conf.  This variable is  no
longer used--it's enough to set the variable dumpdev.

Page 92
_______

At the end of the section How to install a package add the text:

Alternatively,  you  can  install  packages  from  the  /stand/sysinstall Final
Configuration Menu.  We saw this menu on page in figure 4-14 on page 71.   When
you  start  sysinstall from the command line, you get to this menu by selecting
Index, and then selecting Configure.


Page 93
_______

Before the heading Install ports from the first CD-ROM add:


Install ports when installing the system
________________________________________

The file ports/ports.tgz on the first CD-ROM is a tar  archive  containing  all
the  ports.   You  can install it with the base system if you select the Custom
distribution and include the ports collection.  If you didn't install  them  at
the  time,  use  the  following method to install them all (about 40 MB).  Make
sure your CD-ROM is mounted (in this example on /cdrom), and enter:

Page 96
_______

Replace the example at the top of the page with:

Instead, do:

# cd /cd4/ports/distfiles
# mkdir -p /usr/ports/distfiles              make sure you have a distfiles directory
# for i in *; do
>   ln -s /cd4/ports/distfiles/$i /usr/ports/distfiles/$i
> done

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If you're using csh or tcsh, enter:

# cd /cd4/ports/distfiles
# mkdir -p /usr/ports/distfiles              make sure you have a distfiles directory
# foreach i (*)
?   ln -s /cd4/ports/distfiles/$i /usr/ports/distfiles/$i
? end

Thanks to Christopher Raven   and  Francois  Jacques   for drawing this to my attention.

Page 104
________

The examples at the bottom of the page and the top of the next page specify the
wrong directory (/usr).  It should be /usr/X11R6.  Replace the examples with:

For a full install, choose /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331*.tgz.  If  you  are  using
sh, enter:

# cd /usr/X11R6
# for i in /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331*.tgz; do
#   tar xzf $i
# done

If you are using csh, enter:

% cd /usr/X11R6
% foreach i (/cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331*.tgz)
%   tar xzf $i
% end

For a minimal installation, first choose a server archive corresponding to your
VGA board.  If table 8-2 on page 103 doesn't give you enough information, check
the  server  man  pages,  starting  on  page 1545, which list the VGA chip sets
supported by each server.  For example, if you have an ET4000 based  board  you
will use the XF86_SVGA server.  In this case you would enter:

# cd /usr/X11R6
# tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331SVGA.tgz  substitute your server name here
# for i in bin fnts lib xicf; do
#   tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331$i.tgz
# done


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If you are using csh, enter:

% cd /usr/X11R6
% tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331SVGA.tgz  substitute your server name here
% foreach i (bin fnts lib xicf)
%   tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/$i
% end


Thanks  to Manuel Enrique Garcia Cuesta  for pointing out
this one.

Page 128
________

Replace the complete text below the example with the following:

These values are defaults, and many  are  either  incorrect  for  FreeBSD  (for
example the device name /dev/com1) or do not apply at all (for example Xqueue).
If you are configuring manually, select one Protocol and one Device entry  from
the  following  selection.   If  you must use a two-button mouse, uncomment the
keyword Emulate3Buttons--in this mode, pressing both mouse  buttons  simultane-
ously  within Emulate3Timeout milliseconds causes the server to report a middle
button press.

Section "Pointer"

    Protocol   "Microsoft"         for Microsoft protocol mice
    Protocol    "MouseMan"         for Logitech mice
    Protocol    "PS/2"             for a PS/2 mouse
    Protocol    "Busmouse"         for a bus mouse

    Device     "/dev/ttyd0"        for a mouse on the first serial port
    Device     "/dev/ttyd1"        for a mouse on the second serial port
    Device     "/dev/ttyd2"        for a mouse on the third serial port
    Device     "/dev/ttyd3"        for a mouse on the fourth serial port
    Device     "/dev/psm0"         for a PS/2 mouse
    Device     "/dev/mse0"         for a bus mouse

    Emulate3Buttons           only for a two-button mouse

EndSection

You'll notice that the protocol name does not always match  the  manufacturer's

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name.   In  particular,  the  Logitech  protocol only applies to older Logitech
mice.  The newer ones use either the MouseMan or Microsoft  protocols.   Nearly
all modern serial mice run one of these two protocols, and most run both.

If  you are using a bus mouse or a PS/2 mouse, make sure that the device driver
is included in the kernel.  The GENERIC kernel contains drivers for both  mice,
but the PS/2 driver is disabled.  Use UserConfig (see page 50) to enable it.

Page 140
________

Just before the paragraph The super user add the following paragraph:

If  you  do  manage to lose the root password, all may not be lost.  Reboot the
machine to single user mode (see page 157), and enter:

# mount -u /             mount root file system read/write
# mount /usr             mount /usr file system (if separate)
# passwd root            change the password for root
Enter new password:
Enter password again:
# ^D                enter ctrl-D to continue with startup

If you have a separate /usr file system (the normal case), you need to mount it
as  well, since the passwd program is in the directory /usr/bin.  Note that you
should explicitly state the name root: in single user mode, the system  doesn't
have the concept of user IDs.

Page 148
________

Replace the text at the top of the page with:

Modern  shells  supply  command  line editing which resembles the editors vi or
Emacs.  In bash, sh, ksh, and zsh you can make the choice by entering

Page 152
________

After figure 10-8, add the following text:

It  would  be  tedious  for  every  user  to  put  settings  in  their  private
initialization  files, so the shells also read a system-wide default file.  For
the Bourne shell family, it is /etc/profile, while the C shell family has three

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files:  /etc/csh.login  to  be executed on login, /etc/csh.cshrc to be executed
when a new shell is started  after  you  log  in,  and  /etc/csh.logout  to  be
executed  when  you  stop  a  shell.   The  start files are executed before the
corresponding individual files.

In  addition,  login  classes  (page  141)  offer  another  method  of  setting
environment variables at a global level.

Changing your shell
___________________

The  FreeBSD  installation  gives root a C shell, csh.  This is the traditional
Berkeley shell, but it has a number of disadvantages: command line  editing  is
very primitive, and the script language is significantly different from that of
the Bourne shell, which is the de facto standard for shell scripts: if you stay
with  the  C  shell,  you  may  still need to understand the Bourne shell.  The
latest version of the Bourne shell sh also includes some command line  editing.
See page 148 for details of how to enable it.

You  can  get  better  command line editing with tcsh, in the Ports Collection.
You can get both better command line editing and Bourne shell syntax with bash,
also in the Ports Collection.

If  you  have root access, you can use vipw to change your shell, but there's a
more general way: use chsh (Change Shell).  Simply run the program.  It  starts
your  favourite editor (as defined by the EDITOR environment variable).  Here's
an example before:

#Changing user database information for velte.
Shell: /bin/csh
Full Name: Jack Velte
Location:
Office Phone:
Home Phone:

You can change anything after the colons.  For example, you might  change  this
to:

#Changing user database information for velte.
Shell: /usr/local/bin/bash
Full Name: Jack Velte
Location: On the road
Office Phone: +1-408-555-1999
Home Phone:

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chsh  checks and updates the password files when you save the modifications and
exit the editor.  The next time you log in, you get the new shell.  chsh  tries
to  ensure you don't make any mistakes--for example, it won't let you enter the
name of a shell which isn't mentioned in the file /etc/shells--but it's a  very
good  idea  to  check  the shell before logging out.  You can try this with su,
which you normally use to become super user:

bumble# su velte
Password:
su-2.00$                 note the new prompt

There are a couple of problems in using tcsh or bash as a root shell:

o The shell for root must be on the root file system,  otherwise  it  will  not
  work  in single user mode.  Unfortunately, most ports of shells put the shell
  in the directory /usr/local/bin, which is  almost  never  on  the  root  file
  system.

o Most  shells  are  dynamically linked: they rely on library routines in files
  such as /usr/lib/libc.a.  These files are not available in single user  mode,
  so  the shells won't work.  You can solve this problem by creating statically
  linked versions of the shell, but this requires programming experience beyond
  the scope of this book.

If you can get hold of a statically linked version, perform the following steps
to install it:

o Copy the shell to /bin, for example:

  # cp /usr/local/bin/bash /bin

o Add the name of the shell to /etc/shells,  in this example the line  in  bold
  print:

  # List of acceptable shells for chpass(1).
  # Ftpd will not allow users to connect who are not using
  # one of these shells.
  /bin/sh
  /bin/csh
  /bin/bash


You can then change the shell for root as described above.


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Thanks  to  Lars Koller   for drawing this to my
attention.

Page 160
________

Replace the text at the fourth bullet with the augmented text:

The second-level boot locates the kernel, by default the file  /kernel  on  the
root file system, and loads it into memory.  It prints the Boot: prompt at this
point so that you can influence this choice--see the man page on page  579  for
more details of what you can enter at this prompt.

Page 169
________

Replace the last paragraph on the page with:

The standard solution for these problems is to relocate the /tmp file system to
a different directory, say /usr/tmp, and create a symbolic link  from  /usr/tmp
to /tmp--see Chapter 4, Installing FreeBSD, page 72, for more details.

Thanks to Charlie Sorsby  for drawing this to my attention.

Page 176
________

Add the following paragraph

Unmounting file systems

When you mount a file system, the system assumes it is going to stay there, and
in the interests of efficiency it delays writing data back to the file  system.
This  is the same effect we discussed on page 158.  As a result, if you want to
stop using a file system, you need to tell the system about it.   You  do  this
with  the umount command.  Note the spelling--there's no n in the command name.

You need to do this even with read-only  media  such  as  CD-ROMs:  the  system
assumes  it  can  access the data from a mounted file system, and it gets quite
unhappy if it can't.  Where possible, it locks  removable  media  so  that  you
can't remove them from the device until you unmount them.

Using  umount  is  straightforward:  just  tell  it what to unmount, either the
device name or the directory name.  For  example,  to  unmount  the  CD-ROM  we

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mounted in the example above, you could enter one of these commands:

# umount /dev/cd1a
# umount /cd1

Before  unmounting  a  file  system, umount checks that nobody is using it.  If
somebody is using it, it will refuse to unmount it with a message like  umount:
/cd1:  Device  busy.   This  message often occurs because you have changed your
directory to a directory on the file system you want to  remove.   For  example
(which also shows the usefulness of having directory names in the prompt):

=== root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) /cd1 16 -> umount /cd1
umount: /cd1: Device busy
=== root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) /cd1 17 -> cd
=== root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) ~ 18 -> umount /cd1
=== root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) ~ 19 ->

Thanks to Ken Deboy  for pointing out this
omission.

Page 180
________

The example in the middle of the page should read:

For example, to generate a second set of 32 pseudo-terminals, enter:

# cd /dev
# ./MAKEDEV pty1

You can generate up to 256 pseudo-terminals.   They  are  named  ttyp0  through
ttypv,  ttyq0  through  ttyqv,  ttyr0 through ttyrv, ttys0 through ttysv, ttyP0
through ttyPv, ttyQ0 through ttyQv,  ttyR0  through  ttyRv  and  ttyS0  through
ttySv.   To  create  each  set  of 32 terminals, use the number of the set: the
first set is pty0, and the eighth set is pty7.  Note that some processes,  such
as xterm, only look at ttyp0 through ttysv.

Thanks to Karl Wagner  for pointing out this error.


Page 197, first line
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The text of the first full sentence reads:

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The first name, up the the  symbol, is the label.

In fact, it should read:

The first name, up to the | symbol, is the label.


Page 208, middle of page
________________________

The  example  shows  the  file  name /dev/rst0 when using the Bourne shell, and
/dev/nrst0  when  using  C  shell  and  friends.   This  is  inconsistent;  use
/dev/nrst0 with any shell if you want a non-rewinding tape, or /dev/rst0 if you
want a rewinding tape.

Thanks to Norman C Rice  for pointing out this one.

Page 219
________

Before the section Testing the spooler add the following section:

As we saw above, the line  printer  daemon  lpd  is  responsible  for  printing
spooled  jobs.   By default it isn't started at boot time.  If you're root, you
can start it by name:

# lpd

Normally, however, you will want it to be started automatically when the system
starts up.  You do this by setting the variable lpd_enable in /etc/rc.conf:

lpd_enable="YES"              # Run the line printer daemon

See page  for more details of /etc/rc.conf.

Another line in /etc/rc.conf refers to the line printer daemon:

lpd_flags=""        # Flags to lpd (if enabled).

You  don't  normally  need  to  change this line.  See the man page for lpd for
details of the flags.

Thanks to Tommy  G.  James    for  bringing  this  to  my
attention.

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Page 231
________

Replace the first line of the example with:

xhost presto bumble gw

The original version allowed anybody on the Internet to access your system.

Thanks  to  Jerry  Dunham    for  drawing  this  one  to  my
attention.


Page 237
________

In the section Installing the sample desktop, replace the first paragraph with:

You'll  find  all  the  files  described  in  this  chapter on the first CD-ROM
(Installation CD-ROM) in the directory /book.  Remember that you must mount the
CD-ROM  before you can access the files--see page 175 for further details.  The
individual scripts are in the directory /book/scripts, but you'll probably find
it easier to install them with the script install-desktop:

Thanks to Chris Kaiser  for drawing this to my attention.

Page 242
________

The  instructions  for extracting the source files from CD-ROM in the middle of
page 242 are incorrect.  You'll find the kernel sources on the first CD-ROM  in
the directory /src.  Replace the example with:

# mkdir -p /usr/src/sys
# ln -s /usr/src/sys /sys
# cd /
# cat /cdrom/src/ssys.[a-d]* | tar xzvf -

Thanks    to    Raymond    Noel   ,   Suttipan   Limanond
 and Satwant  for finding this one in
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Page 257
________

Replace the paragraph Berkeley Packet Filter with:


pseudo-device bpfilter
______________________

The  Berkeley  Packet  Filter  (bpf)  allows  you to capture packets crossing a
network interface to disk or to examine them with the  tcpdump  program.   Note
that  this  capability represents a significant compromise of network security.
The number after bpfilter is the number of concurrent processes  that  can  use
the facility.  Not all network interfaces support bpf.

In  order  to  use  the Berkeley Packet Filter, you must also create the device
nodes /dev/bpf0 to /dev/bpf3 (if you're using the default number 4).   Current-
ly, MAKEDEV doesn't help much--you need to create each device separately:

# cd /dev
# ./MAKEDEV bpf0
# ./MAKEDEV bpf1
# ./MAKEDEV bpf2
# ./MAKEDEV bpf3

Thanks  to  Christopher  Raven   for drawing this to my
attention.

Page 264
________

In the list of disk driver flags, add:

o Bit 12 (0x1000) enables LBA (logical block addressing mode).  If this bit  is
  not set, the driver accesses the disk in CHS (cylinder/head/sector) mode.

o In  CHS  mode, if bits 11 to 8 are not equal to 0, they specify the number of
  heads to assume (between 1 and 15).  The driver recalculates  the  number  of
  cylinders to make up the total size of the disk.






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Page 273, ``Building the kernel''
_________________________________

Replace the example with:

Next, change to the build directory and build the kernel:

# cd ../../compile/FREEBIE
# make depend
# make

   The  make  depend  is needed even if the directory has just been created:
   apart from creating dependency information, it also  creates  some  files
   needed for the build.
Thanks to Mark Ovens  for drawing this to my attention.

Page 283, ``Creating the source tree''
______________________________________

Add a third point to what you need to know:

3. Possibly, the date of the last update that you want to be  included  in  the
  checkout.   If  you  specify  this date, cvs ignores any more recent updates.
  This option is often useful when somebody discovers a recently introduced bug
  in  -CURRENT:  you  check  out  the  modules  as they were before the bug was
  introduced.  You specify the date with the -D  option,  for  example  -D  "10
  December 1997".


Page 285, after the second example.
___________________________________

Add the text:

If  you  need  to check out an older version, for example if there are problems
with the most recent version of -CURRENT, you could enter:

# cvs co  -D "10 December 1997" src/sys

This command checks out the kernel sources as of 10 December 1997.





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Page 294
________

Add the following section:

Problems executing Linux binaries
_________________________________

One of the problems with the ELF format used by more recent Linux  binaries  is
that  they  usually  contain no information to identify them as Linux binaries.
They might equally well be BSD/OS or UnixWare binaries.  That's  not  really  a
problem  at  this point, since the only ELF format that FreeBSD 3.2 understands
is Linux, but FreeBSD-CURRENT recognizes a native FreeBSD ELF format  as  well,
and  of  course  that's  the default.  If you want to run a Linux ELF binary on
such a system, you must brand the executable using the program  brandelf.   For
example, to brand the StarOffice program swriter3, you would enter:

# brandelf -t linux /usr/local/StarOffice-3.1/linux-x86/bin/swriter3

Thanks to Dan Busarow  for bringing this to my attention.

Page 364, middle of page
________________________

Change the text from:

The names MYADDR and HISADDR are keywords which represent the addresses at each
end of the link.  They must be written as shown, though they may  be  in  lower
case.

to

The names MYADDR and HISADDR are keywords which represent the addresses at each
end of the link.  They must be written as shown, though newer versions  of  ppp
allow you to write them in lower case.

Thanks to Mark S. Reichman  for this correction.

Page 368
________

Replace the paragraph after the second example with:

In  FreeBSD  version  3.0  and  later,  specify  the  options  PPP_BSDCOMP  and

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PPP_DEFLATE to enable two kinds of compression.  You'll also  need  to  specify
the corresponding option in Kernel PPP's configuration file.  These options are
not available in FreeBSD version 2.

Thanks to Brian Somers  for this information.

Page 397
________

In the section ``Nicknames'', the example should read:

www       IN   CNAME          freebie
ftp       IN   CNAME          presto

In other words, there should be a space between CNAME and the system name.

Page 422
________

Replace the text above the example with:

tcpdump is a program which monitors a network interface and  displays  selected
information which passes through it.  It uses the Berkeley Packet Filter (bpf),
an optional component of the kernel.  It is not included in the GENERIC kernel:
see page 257 for information on how to configure it.

If you don't configure the Berkeley Packet Filter, you will get a message like

tcpdump: /dev/bpf0:  device not configured

If you forget to create the devices for bpf, you will get a message like:

tcpdump: /dev/bpf0: No such file or directory

Since  tcpdump poses a potential security problem, you must be root in order to
run it.  The simplest way to run it is without any parameters.  This will cause
tcpdump  to  monitor  and  display  all  traffic  on  the  first active network
interface, normally Ethernet:

Thanks to Christopher Raven  for  drawing  this  to  my
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Page 423
________

The  description  at  the  top of the page incorrectly uses the term IP address
instead  of  Ethernet  address.   In  addition,  a  page  number  reference  is
incorrect.  Replace the paragraph with:

o Line  1  shows  an  ARP  request:  system  presto is looking for the Ethernet
  address of wait.  It would appear that  wait  is  currently  not  responding,
  since there is no reply.

o Line 2 is not an IP message at all.  tcpdump shows the Ethernet addresses and
  the beginning of the packet.  We don't consider this kind of request in  this
  book.

o Line 3 is a broadcast ntp message.  We looked at ntp on page 160.

o Line 4 is another attempt by presto to find the IP address of wait.

o Line  5  is  a  broadcast  message  from  bumble  on  the  rwho  port, giving
  information about its current load averages and how long it has been up.  See
  the man page for rwho on page 1167 for more information.

o Line 6 is from a TCP connection between port 6000 on freebie and port 1089 on
  presto.  It is sending 384 bytes (with  the  sequence  numbers  536925467  to
  536925851; see page 305), and is acknowledging that the last byte it received
  from presto had the sequence number 325114346.  The window size is 17280.

o Line 7 is another ARP request.  presto is looking for the Ethernet address of
  freebie.   How  can  that  happen?   We've  just  seen  that  they have a TCP
  connection.  In fact, ARP information expires after 20 minutes.   It's  quite
  possible  that  all  connections between presto and freebie have been dormant
  for this period, so presto needs to find freebie's IP address again.

o Line 8 is the ARP reply from freebie to presto giving its Ethernet address.

o Line 9 shows a reply from presto on the connection to freebie that we saw  on
  line  6.   It  acknowledges  the  data  up  to sequence number 536925851, but
  doesn't send any itself.

o Line 10 shows  another  448  bytes  of  data  from  freebie  to  presto,  and
  acknowledging the same sequence number from presto as in line 6.

Thanks to Sergei S. Laskavy  for drawing this to my

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attention.

Page 450: anonymous ftp
_______________________

Replace the paragraph starting with Create a user ftp:

Create a user ftp, with the anonymous ftp directory as the home  directory  and
the  shell  /dev/null.  Using /dev/null as the shell makes it impossible to log
in as user ftp, but does not interfere with the use of anonymous ftp.  ftp  can
be a member of group bin, or you can create a new group ftp by adding the group
to /etc/group.  See page 138 for more details of adding users, and the man page
on page 805 for adding groups.

Thanks to Mark S. Reichman  for drawing this to my attention.

Page 466, before the ps example
_______________________________

Add another bullet:

o Finally,  you may find it convenient to let some other system handle all your
  mail delivery for you: you just send anything you can't  deliver  locally  to
  this  other  host,  which  sendmail calls a smart host.  This is particularly
  convenient if you send your mail with UUCP.

  To tell sendmail to use a smart host (in our  case,  mail.example.net),  find
  the following line in sendmail.cf:

  # "Smart" relay host (may be null)
  DS

  Change it to:

  # "Smart" relay host (may be null)
  DSmail.example.net


Page 478, ``Running Apache''
____________________________

The  text  describes the location of the server as /usr/local/www/server/httpd.
This appears to depend on where you get the port from.  Some people report  the
file  being  at the more likely location /usr/local/sbin/httpd (though note the

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directory sbin, not bin).  Check  both  locations  if  you  run  into  trouble.
Thanks to Sue Blake  for this information.

Page 492
________

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Page 493
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socket  options  is  hardly  mentioned  in  the  documentation,  but  it's very
important:  many  Microsoft  implementations  of  TCP/IP  are  inefficient  and
establish  a  new  TCP  more  often  than necessary.  Select the socket options
TCP_NODELAY and IPTOS_LOWDELAY, which can speed up the response  time  of  such
applications by over 95%.



























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Where can I find a really comprehensive list of environment variables and
what they do? I've looked around and all the lists I've come across only
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>
> A dual system would work great, however I need a 64-Bit PCI slot to hold
> this Ultra 160 SCSI controller *and* I'd like to avoid spending $2500 in
> RDRAM to get what we already have in SDRAM :-)
> 
	An older Intel mainboard should offer both SDRAM slots and a 64 bit
   PCI slot, shouldn't it? You can also look at something like a Compaq
   Proliant 5500 (I think!) that can go as high as 4 Xeon CPU's and 8GB
   of SDRAM. I just don't know if it has a 64 bit PCI slot in it, however.

	Also check the 10 options that come up when you specify "quad"
   in the mainboard section of Price Watch. You have choices from Intel,
   SuperMicro and American Megatrends. In fact, the SuperMicro S2QR6
   board comes with a built in U160W SCSI controller. For a mere $2600...

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how should I config X11 on a ATI Xpert 99, 8M with a Packard bell PB =
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Also how can i configure my keyboard to work propely because my "z" is a =
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how should I config X11 on a ATI =
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Also how can i configure my keyboard =
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Sarah Wright wrote:

> Where can I find a really comprehensive list of environment variables and
> what they do? I've looked around and all the lists I've come across only
> detail 20-25. But, I'm told there are "thousands"...
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the only descrpitions you're going to find in one place are built into the
shell.  there are many othets like CVSROOT that you put stuff like
:pserver:anonymous@cvs.enlightenment.org:/cvs/enlightenmnet or what ever you
want to get so you can just use "cvs login".  this is used by CVS.
similarly, GTK_CONFIG, GLIB_CONFIG, and IMLIB_CONFIG are used alot to direct
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Hello,
I compiled a new kernel and I copied it to /kernel.new and replaced /kernel 
with /kernel.old to make sure that machine still boots.when the machine 
boots up, at the prompt I type boot kernel.new.

Everything seems fine.. it detects the scsi drives no problem, I get to
Waiting for 15 seconds for SCSI drives to settle...

Just after that I get:
panic: nobody wants to mount root for me  ??????

and a series of error messages and the system reboots...

Where did I go wrong?
(Kernel 3.3)

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Dear Sirs,
I have a few problems with my ports, uhci0 and sio1. When loading the
kernel I get

uhci0:  irq 9 at device 7.2 on pci0
uhci0: could not map ports

and

sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0


Why cannot uhci map the USB port (this is a Laptop, Fujitsu-Siemens
S-Series) and why is not the IRQ for sio1 (my internal modem) probed?

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I gather from the documentation that FreeBSD/Alpha does not run on the
Digital Server 3300 (which is an updated AS800).  Are there any immediate
plans to remedy this omission?

If not, what will I lose having to run NetBSD?

Yours sincerely,

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When I try to make WordPerfect in the ports, it fails with the error 
"invalid environment variable TERM=cons25" and asks me to change TERM.  I'm 
not sure what to do, since this was on a fresh install (of the May 11 
-STABLE) and I haven't changed anything in the environment.  Ideas?  Thanks,


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   I am having problems getting from a LAN (all public addresses, no NAT)
to apparently any site hosted by pair networks because they seem to be 
using FUA (192.168.x.x) network addresses for their router(s) and hosted
sites. My LAN configuration is:

      internet
          |
         pn0 (208.150.25.2)
      FreeBSD gateway
         pn1 (208.150.26.88, 96)
          |
         hub
          |
"internal" machines (208.150.26.88/29 208.150.26.96/29)

a traceroute from the gateway shows:
                                                                        

# traceroute archerycabinets.com
traceroute to archerycabinets.com (216.92.176.162): 1-30 hops, 38 byte
packets
 1  GW.flatiron1.New-Era.net (208.150.25.1)  1.17 ms  0.883 ms  0.758 ms
 2  GW.vbilt.New-Era.net (208.133.46.1)  13.5 ms  11.8 ms  13.3 ms
 3  core01-E0-10.ash.rtr.New-Era.net (208.133.44.1)  32.7 ms  19.3 ms 28.4 ms
 4  166.48.116.81 (166.48.116.81)  28.3 ms (ttl=250!)  21.3 ms (ttl=250!) 22.4 ms (ttl=250!)
 5  core7.Washington.cw.net (204.70.4.117)  93.2 ms (ttl=250!)  27.8 ms (ttl=250!)  32.1 ms (ttl=250!)
 6  sl-dc-7-H0-0-T3.sprintlink.net (206.157.77.34)  38.5 ms (ttl=249!) 28.1 ms (ttl=249!)  35.9 ms (ttl=249!)
 7  sl-bb10-rly-3-3.sprintlink.net (144.232.7.169)  27.7 ms (ttl=248!) 28.6 ms (ttl=248!)  27.8 ms (ttl=248!)
 8  sl-bb11-rly-9-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.14.22)  27.5 ms (ttl=247!) 29.4 ms (ttl=247!)  32.9 ms (ttl=247!)
 9  sl-gw8-rly-4-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.7.246)  203 ms (ttl=246!) 166 ms (ttl=246!)  221 ms (ttl=246!)
10  sl-pairnet-1-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.190.142)  61.0 ms (ttl=247!) 59.3 ms (ttl=247!)  56.0 ms (ttl=247!)
11  192.168.1.5 (192.168.1.5)  58.5 ms (ttl=246!)  58.1 ms (ttl=246!) 57.5 ms (ttl=246!)
12  archerycabinets.com (216.92.176.162)  66.8 ms (ttl=245!)  57.3 ms  (ttl=245!)  57.7 ms (ttl=245!)
#

whereas a traceroute from and inside address dies at hop 11 (as shown
here). This is definately a problem with the gateway machine since I
can get to this site (among others hosted at pair) from anywhere
outside the LAN. The gateway is:
# uname -mr
3.4-RELEASE i386
with two ``pn'' NICs. How can I let the internal hosts see those sites? 


TIA,
Ben



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On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 06:55:16PM +0000, Kevin wrote:
> Let me rephrase this.  Can someone tell me what I can do to
> correct the problem with my .xsession file?
> 
> Kevin Weiss
> kweiss@jump.net
> 
> >Hello all,
> >
> >I just received FreeBSD 4.0, and I am trying to get X Window (in particular, 
> >xdm) to read my .xsession file.  
> >
> >First, here is my .xsession file.  This one is from another machine
> >I have running FreeBSD 3.4:
> >
> >#!/bin/sh
> ># $XConsortium: xinitrc.cpp,v 1.4 91/08/22 11:41:34 rws Exp $
> >
> >userresources=$HOME/.Xresources
> >usermodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap
> >sysresources=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xresources
> >sysmodmap=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap
> >
> ># merge in defaults and keymaps
> >
> >if [ -f $sysresources ]; then
> >    xrdb -merge $sysresources
> >fi
> >
> >if [ -f $sysmodmap ]; then
> >    xmodmap $sysmodmap
> >fi
> >
> >if [ -f $userresources ]; then
> >    xrdb -merge $userresources
> >fi
> >
> >if [ -f $usermodmap ]; then
> >    xmodmap $usermodmap
> >fi
> >
> ># start some nice programs
> >
> >xterm -geometry 80x24-240+180 &
> >blackbox
> >
> >
> >It is not reading my .xsession file, so everytime I try to login,
> >xdm just returns me back to the login screen.  I checked to make sure my 
> >.xsession file was executable (it was-- chmod 544), and even tried linking 
> >.xsession to .xinitrc (didn't work).  Startx runs fine with
> >any of my installed window managers, so I at least know that X Window
> >is working.  Could this be a problem with my path (or lack thereof)?
> >
> >Thank you in advance!

Is there anything in .xsession-errors? (Or $TMPDIR/xses-$USER or
/tmp/xses-$USER?)

Excuse me if I should know this, but what is "blackbox?" Is this
command present on your system? What does it do?
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To: Jeremy Warner 
Cc: Rudy Rucker , questions@FreeBSD.ORG
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On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 10:32:15AM -0700, Jeremy Warner wrote:
> this is what I get:
> #ipfw show
> 
> 00100 105  6310 divert 8668 ip from any to any via fxp0
> 00100   0     0 allow ip from any to any via lo0
> 00200   0     0 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8
> 65000 174 10308 allow ip from any to any
> 65535   0     0 deny ip from any to any
> 
> With these settings the gateway can ping the 192.168.1.x network but it can
> not ping anything on 206.163.165.x (aside form 206.163.165.1)
> If  I do a ipfw delete 100 then the gateway can ping anything in both
> directions.
> 
> and yes my 192.168.1.x clients are configured correctly.
> from my 192.168.1.x network I can ping 192.168.1.1 and 206.163.165.1 but
> know further.
> 
> i've made no changes in my rc.firewall file.  are there setting that need to
> be setup in here? it is just set to the default config right now.

From what I see, this should be working. Let's get all the info,

  # ipfw show
  # netstat -rn
  # ifconfig -a
  # ps aux | grep natd
  # uname -a

Try starting a ping to the outside world from the private net. Then,
on the NAT gateway, listen with tcpdump(8) on the internal interface
to see the pings come in. Try tcpdump(8) on the external to see if
they are going out or coming back.


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rudy Rucker 
> To: Jeremy Warner 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 3:09 AM
> Subject: Re: IPFW and NATD question
> 
> 
> >
> > Do a 'ipfw show' as root.
> > That will make sure that your firewall is running and the correct rules
> > are loaded (look for the divert rule).
> >
> > Did you set up clients on the 192.168.1.x network to use
> > 192.168.1.1 as their gateway (and as their DNS)?
> >
> > Rudy
> >
> > On Fri, 12 May 2000, Jeremy Warner wrote:
> >
> > > I trying to setup NATD and IPFW and im not getting very far.
> > > I'm using FreeBSD-4.0.
> > > My gateway server is connected to the internet (fxp0) and it is also
> connected to my network (fxp1)
> > > I am trying to get natd to divert my internal network 192.168.1.0
> through my gateway so that my internal network can see the internet, but for
> some reason its not working.
> > >
> > > I compiled my Kernal with:
> > > options IPFIREWALL
> > > options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
> > > options IPDIVERT
> > >
> > > This is what my rc.conf file looks like:
> > >
> > > ifconfig_fxp0="inet 206.163.165.1  netmask 255.255.255.224"
> > > ifconfig_fxp1="inet 192.168.1.1  netmask 255.255.255.0"
> > > gateway_enable="YES"
> > > defaultrouter="206.163.165.30"
> > > named_enable="YES"
> > > network_interfaces="lo0 fxp0 fxp1"
> > > hostname="gw.northwesttechnical.com"
> > > natd_enable=YES
> > > natd_interface="fxp0"
> > > natd_flags="-f /etc/natd.conf"
> > > firewall_enable=YES
> > > firewall_type=open
> > > firewall_quiet=YES
> > >
> > > This is my natd.conf file:
> > >
> > > interface fxp0
> > > deny_incoming yes
> > > use_sockets yes
> > > same_ports yes
> > >
> > >
> > > If anyone has any ideas here let me know.
> > >
> > > Thanks...
> > >
> > >
> 
> 
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Hello all,

I have recently (5/12/00) cvsupped FreeBSD-stable to my 4.0-RELEASE box 
in the hopes of getting my Sound Blaster Live to work. After making and 
compiling my kernel with all the requisite additions (pcm and usb*) and 
subtractions (devices I don't have) and booting I have a peculiar 
problem. On boot, when linux binary compatibility starts, I get a panic 
and the system reboots. No fun! If I start with "linux enable = NO" 
everything works fine (except stuff that depends on linux compatibility 
of course). If I try to start linux from the command line, I get the 
same panic...

I am conteplating a make world, but that may be overkill (and is very 
scary for me, being a relative newbie to the deep dark secrets of 
FreeBSD)... Any thoughts?

Ian Cartwright
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On Friday, 12 May 2000 at 23:32:12 +0200, Francesco Casadei wrote:
> 	Why the DEL key deletes the character before the cursor (just like
> BackSpace) instead of deleting the character after the cursor?

Because that's its purpose.

> Only in Netscape Navigator's location bar DEL deletes the characters
> to the right of the cursor.

I consider this incorrect.

> Nevertheless the assignments for DEL and BS in it.iso.kbd (the
> keymap file I use) seem to be correct:
>
>    014   bs     bs     del    del    bs     bs     del    del     O
>
>    083   del    '.'    '.'    '.'    '.'    '.'    boot   boot    N
>          ^^^

Seems reasonable.

> I have a 105-keys italian keyboard and I use bash 2.03.0(1)-release and
> FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE.

Remember that command line editing isn't a kernel function.  If you're
talking about bash, the character for deleting the character to the
right of the cursor is ^D (ctrl-D).  Look at the man page for the
others.

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On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 10:21:58PM -0400, Ian Cartwright wrote:
> I have recently (5/12/00) cvsupped FreeBSD-stable to my 4.0-RELEASE box 
> in the hopes of getting my Sound Blaster Live to work. After making and 
> compiling my kernel with all the requisite additions (pcm and usb*) and 
> subtractions (devices I don't have) and booting I have a peculiar 
> problem. On boot, when linux binary compatibility starts, I get a panic 
> and the system reboots. No fun! If I start with "linux enable = NO" 
> everything works fine (except stuff that depends on linux compatibility 
> of course). If I try to start linux from the command line, I get the 
> same panic...
> 
> I am conteplating a make world, but that may be overkill (and is very 
> scary for me, being a relative newbie to the deep dark secrets of 
> FreeBSD)... Any thoughts?

A make world is exactly what you should do.  You can not update your
kernel without updating your modules and the prefered way to do so in
4.x is make world.  In 5.0 modules should have versions to avoid the
panic and be updated with the kernel to avoid sync problems.  This is
partialy working in current now.

-- Brooks

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>
> how should I config X11 on a ATI Xpert 99, 8M with a Packard bell PB 8528 SVG monitor?
> 
	Your monitor manual should list the Horizontal Sync rate (aka
   line frequency) as a range expressed in kHz, and the Vertical Sync
   rate (aka refresh frequency) in Hz. Enter those ranges (or, if no
   other option, numbres) when XF86Config/XF86Setup asks for them. For
   the video card, you need do nothing more than find the correct driver
   for them (it might be SVGA, I don't know). Everything else about the
   video card should be probed and configured automatically.

	After that, you probably need to fiddle with XF86Config/XF86Setup
   to get your window centered in the screen, sized correctly, etc. Then
   enter those numbers as a "mode" for your monitor. An example of a 
   mode is:

ModeLine     "1280x1024" 181.75 1280 1400 1528 1768 1024 1031 1046 1104 -hsync -vsync

   But I wouldn't recommend you use this one. Overdriving the monitor is
   bad!

	Whether you use XF86Config or XF86Setup shouldn't really matter.

								Bruce


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Hiyall,

I'm receiving the following error from the kernel at boot time:

WARNING: driver stl should register devices with make_dev() (dev_t="#stl/151")

The panels still work without problem, but I'm curious as to why this
message appears. Any help appreciated.

Regards,

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Hiyall,

I'm receiving the following error from the kernel at boot time, in
FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE (keep forgetting to include that):

WARNING: driver stl should register devices with make_dev() (dev_t="#stl/151")

The panels still work without problem, but I'm curious as to why this
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On Sun, 7 May 2000, Steve Price wrote:

% On Sun, 7 May 2000, Doug Barton wrote:
% 
% # 	First, ignore the overly complicated and potentially dangerous answers
% # so far on this thread. :) Second, think about it for a minute. If "*"
% # provides a list that's too long for rm to handle, why not break it up
% # into smaller chunks? For example, if your files mainly have alpha
% # characters in their names, do something like:
% # 
% # rm [a-c]*
% # 
% # Starting with larger chunks, and going smaller as needed till the error
% # messages disappear. 
% 
% Something like this doesn't work?
% 
% 	ls * | xargs rm
% 
% Seems simple enough and should do it all in one pass. :)
% 
% -steve
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I know this sounds a bit crazy but how about this:

rm -i ./*   (please be in the directory of choice)

Then and "yes" and "no" them as you cruise along? It may take a bit of
time but at least you don't kiss the good guys bye, bye...
 
An once of prevention... :)

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On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 12:10:06AM -0400, William Melanson wrote:

> I know this sounds a bit crazy but how about this:
> 
> rm -i ./*   (please be in the directory of choice)
     ^^

For a directory containing 5000+ files this would be impractical.

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On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 08:46:56AM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote:
> On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 11:13:19PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote:
> > Can someone clarify getopt(1) and getopts(1)? According to sh(1):
> > 
> >  getopts optstring var
> >      The POSIX getopts command.  The getopts command deprecates the
> >      older getopt(1) command.....
> > 
> > but there is no manpage for getopts(1), only getopt(1). The latter
> > includes some sample code which works fine, however if I change
> > ``getopt'' to ``getopts'' in this code I get:
> > 
> > parish:/usr/marko{89}% ./foobar -b
> > getopts: -b: bad variable name
> > Usage: ...
> > parish:/usr/marko{90}%
> > 
> > Since getopt(1) is deprecated it would be better to use getopts(1).
> > Can anyone explain the above error, or point me to some documentation
> > for getopts(1)?
> > 
> 
> On my system (4.0-stable) there is a manpage for getopts(1). It just a link
> to buiiltin(1) which says that it is a builtin command in sh(1).

Same here (I'm also on 4-stable). I hadn't spotted that it is a copy
of (not a link to) builtin(1).

> The manpage for sh(1) has the following to say about getopts:
> 
>    getopts optstring var
>           The POSIX getopts command.  The getopts command deprecates the
>           older getopt(1) command.  The first argument should be a series
>           of letters, each possibly followed by a colon which indicates
>           that the option takes an argument.  The specified variable is set
>           to the parsed option.  The index of the next argument is placed
>           into the shell variable OPTIND. If an option takes an argument,
>           it is placed into the shell variable OPTARG. If an invalid option
>           is encountered, var is set to `?''. It returns a false value (1)
>           when it encounters the end of the options.
> 
>

The first couple of lines of which I quoted in my original post so,
yes, I have read it. However it reads as though the syntax is the same
as getopt(1) (at least to me it does). So the question remains; why
does the sample code in getopt(1) not work if I change ``getopt'' to
``getopts'' in the first line?

I'm quite happy to RTFM, if only I could find a FM to R :)
 
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I'm having difficulty getting the 'pr' util
to work (as I was used to it, using Linux).
I have a small plain text database and a shell

	1|[a]|and, with, whether|0|1
	2|[ab]|a son; [a^b] an ape|1|1

script which formats that database.

#!/usr/local/bin/bash
#
# gcodo - prosesu geiriadur cymraeg y canol oesoedd
#
# gcodo < ffeil
#
# ee. ffeil

while read llinell; 
do
	one=`echo $llinell | cut -f2 -d"|"`
	two=`echo $llinell | cut -f3 -d"|"`
	echo -e $one\\c >> /tmp/one.$$
	echo -e "to $two\c" >> /tmp/two.$$
	fold -w27 /tmp/one.$$  >> /tmp/un.$$
	fold -w35 /tmp/two.$$  >> /tmp/dau.$$
	pr -m -t -w75 /tmp/un.$$ /tmp/dau.$$ 
	echo -e "-----------------------------------------------\c"
	rm /tmp/one.$$ /tmp/two.$$ /tmp/un.$$ /tmp/dau.$$ 
	echo
done

The Linux pr didn't split words :

-----------------------------------------------------------------
[abad]				  an abbott; [abades] an
				  abbess; [abadaeth] an
				  abbotship; [abaty] an abbey
-----------------------------------------------------------------

The FreeBSD pr does :
-----------------------------------------------------------------
[abad]				      an abbott; [abades] an abbess;
				       [abadaeth] an abbotship;	[aba
				      ty] an abbey
-----------------------------------------------------------------

I've read the man pages.  Please, no suggestions to use perl :-)
Thanks for any useful input !

	Darren


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I'm attempting to setup two ISA internal modems in a 486dx2-66 running
FreeBSD 4.0. The reason for internal ones is that the box was needed
urgently
(its a permanently connected internet gateway) and the bits lurking around
didn't
include a multi I/O card with 16550 UARTS. The internet modem has been
running well on cuaa0 for weeks, but I need to get the second modem on cuaa1
configured so it can connect the first LAN to a Win2000 / Win9x LAN a few
suburbs away. The motherboard is ISA / VESA, so there's no onboard COM ports
to cause conflicts, and both modems have jumper IRQ configuration.

I checked the kernel configuration file for tun & ppp devices, there are two
of each so I figure that won't need any modification.

(1) Despite the first modem working well, the output of dmesg looks weird to
me.
 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
 sio0: type 16550A
sio1: configured irq3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq3 on isa0
sio1: type 16550A
...
...
unknown0:  at port 0x3e8-0x3ef irq5 on isa0

Notwithstanding dmesg, the NetComm modem is set by jumpers for COM1 / IRQ4
(plug & pray is disabled) and both ppp.conf & minicom both recognize it on
cuaa0, so what gives here ??

To get the user-ppp working for the second modem I "borrowed" some ideas
from the ppp.conf.span-isp example file, which suggests its OK to add a
/dev/cuaa1 entry to the set device line, and an entry for the second host /
phone number etc.  Looking at ps -auxw when I attempt to run the second
modem suggests that ppp looks at the first /dev entry, and if thats busy it
goes to the next in the list.

The second modem is a slightly earlier Netcomm ..... it dials out readily
with minicom, but when I use either "ppp -ddial "  or the "ppp /
term" stuff, it just gets to "ppp ON> " and sits there all day...... ppp.log
says "/dev/cuaa1 doesn't support CD" There doesn't appear to be any mention
of this message in the mailing list archives but I suppose the only thing it
could mean is "carrier detect", from which I gather its trying to tell me it
doesn't detect dialtone ....... but if that's the case why does minicom have
no such problem ?? I don't think I can use minicom for anything but testing
as the link has to run TCP/IP networking & as far as I can tell thats not
what minicom was designed for.

I did consider trying to run kernel-ppp for the second link, but there's not
a lot of explicit info on that anywhere I could find.

Anyone have some clues on what to do here ??






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Setup:
New user of Release-4.0
NICs installed:
PCI NE2000 clone 'RealTek RTL-8029 PCI
Netgear Netgear FA 310TX  PCI 


Preface to comments below: 

When first installing, at the screen provided to resolve any hardware
conflicts.  There were 8 conflicts.  Every entry under the network menu was
in conflict.  I disabled them all.  I did boot up once leaving the
conflits in place and saw no difference.

Have I effectively disabled networking?

The 0S seems to find my cards here, but complains later about corrupt
memory in one device (see note further down)

From boot messages:

   May 12 00:34:04 reader /kernel: ed0:  port 0xdc00-0xdc1f irq 9 at device 9.0 on pci0
   
   May 12 00:34:04 reader /kernel: ed0: supplying EUI64:
   00:00:e8:ff:fe:90:99:20
   
   May 12 00:34:04 reader /kernel: ed0: address 00:00:e8:90:99:20, type
   NE2000 (16 bit)
   
   May 12 00:34:04 reader /kernel: dc0: <82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX> port
   0xe000-0xe0ff mem 0xeb000000-0xeb0000ff irq 9 at device 10.0 on pci0
   
   May 12 00:34:04 reader /kernel: dc0: Ethernet address:
   00:a0:cc:59:6b:fc

NOTE: dc0 up and ed0 shutdown

Results of `netstat -nr'

Routing tables

Internet:
Destination        Gateway            Flags      Netif Expire
default            209.144.117.114    UGSc        dc0
127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH          lo0
209.144.117        link#2             UC          dc0 =>
209.144.117.113    0:a0:cc:59:6b:fc   UHLW        lo0
209.144.117.114    link#2             UHRLW       dc0 =>

results of ifconfig dc0:

dc0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
	inet 209.144.117.113 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 209.144.117.255
	inet6 fe80::2a0:ccff:fe59:6bfc%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 
	ether 00:a0:cc:59:6b:fc 
	media: autoselect (100baseTX) status: active
	supported media: autoselect 100baseTX  100baseTX 10baseT/UTP  10baseT/UTP none

The above setup can ping the NIC card  address 209.144.117.113 But not
the gateway at my ISP .......114

Next I shut down dc0 and fired up ed0.

NOTE: dc0 shut down ..ed0 up
System logger gives these messages:

May 12 18:20:42 reader /kernel: dc0: starting DAD for
fe80:0002::02a0:ccff:fe59:6bfc

May 12 18:20:43 reader /kernel: dc0: DAD complete for
fe80:0002::02a0:ccff:fe59:6bfc - no duplicates found

[HP ***NOTE*** below:]
May 12 18:23:55 reader /kernel: ed0: NIC memory corrupt - invalid
packet length 0

May 12 19:03:07 reader /kernel: ed0: starting DAD for
fe80:0001::0200:e8ff:fe90:9920

May 12 19:03:09 reader /kernel: ed0: DAD complete for
fe80:0001::0200:e8ff:fe90:9920 - no duplicates found

Results of `netstat -nr':

Routing tables

Internet:
Destination        Gateway            Flags      Netif Expire
default            209.144.117.114    UGSc        dc0
127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH          lo0


I then set up a connection on ed0

ifconfig ed0 inet 209.144.117.113 netmask 255.255.255.0

Gateway is already setup.

results of netstat -nr with new interface setup:

Routing tables

Internet:
Destination        Gateway            Flags      Netif Expire
default            209.144.117.114    UGSc        dc0
127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH          lo0
209.144.117        link#1             UC          ed0 =>
209.144.117.113    0:0:e8:90:99:20    UHLW        lo0
209.144.117.114    0:e0:da:3:dd:0     UHLW        ed0   1107

With dc0 down and this new interface on ed0, I can ping the nic and
the gateway on the other end.  But still not connected to the internet.

Can't ping my nameserver.

Resolv.conf looks like:

domain  ptw.com
nameserver      209.144.112.4

Contents /etc/hosts
127.0.0.1               localhost.ptw.com localhost
209.144.117.113         reader.ptw.com.
192.168.x.x             reader.local.lan reader
192.168.x.x             satellite.local.lan satellite

Where to from here?













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> I'm in a directory with a tonne of files I wish to delete.
> I type "rm -rf *", but it won't work, it gives "/bin/rm: Argument
> list too long".  So how can I delete these many files ?
> 
> I can "cd ..", and then "rm -rf ", and that works.
> 
> However, what if I didn't wish to remove directories.  In that
> case, what would I do to remove the files ?

This will recursively remove just the plain files, leaving behind
directories, symlinks, pipes, and device files:

	find  -type f -exec rm \{\} \;

With your shell, you might not have to use as many escapes.
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On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 06:34:03PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote:
> On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 08:46:56AM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote:
> > On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 11:13:19PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote:
> > > Can someone clarify getopt(1) and getopts(1)? According to sh(1):
> > > 
> > >  getopts optstring var
> > >      The POSIX getopts command.  The getopts command deprecates the
> > >      older getopt(1) command.....
> > > 
> > > but there is no manpage for getopts(1), only getopt(1). The latter
> > > includes some sample code which works fine, however if I change
> > > ``getopt'' to ``getopts'' in this code I get:
> > > 
> > > parish:/usr/marko{89}% ./foobar -b
> > > getopts: -b: bad variable name
> > > Usage: ...
> > > parish:/usr/marko{90}%
> > > 
> > > Since getopt(1) is deprecated it would be better to use getopts(1).
> > > Can anyone explain the above error, or point me to some documentation
> > > for getopts(1)?
> > > 
> > 
> > On my system (4.0-stable) there is a manpage for getopts(1). It just a link
> > to buiiltin(1) which says that it is a builtin command in sh(1).
> 
> Same here (I'm also on 4-stable). I hadn't spotted that it is a copy
> of (not a link to) builtin(1).

It is a link, hardlink.

  % cd /usr/share/man/man1
  % ls -li getopts.1.gz builtin.1.gz getopt.1.gz 
  508294 -r--r--r--  71 root  wheel  2407 Mar 25 03:08 builtin.1.gz
  508336 -r--r--r--   1 root  wheel  1649 Mar 25 03:10 getopt.1.gz
  508294 -r--r--r--  71 root  wheel  2407 Mar 25 03:08 getopts.1.gz


> > The manpage for sh(1) has the following to say about getopts:
> > 
> >    getopts optstring var
> >           The POSIX getopts command.  The getopts command deprecates the
> >           older getopt(1) command.  The first argument should be a series
> >           of letters, each possibly followed by a colon which indicates
> >           that the option takes an argument.  The specified variable is set
> >           to the parsed option.  The index of the next argument is placed
> >           into the shell variable OPTIND. If an option takes an argument,
> >           it is placed into the shell variable OPTARG. If an invalid option
> >           is encountered, var is set to `?''. It returns a false value (1)
> >           when it encounters the end of the options.
> > 
> >
> 
> The first couple of lines of which I quoted in my original post so,
> yes, I have read it. However it reads as though the syntax is the same
> as getopt(1) (at least to me it does). So the question remains; why
> does the sample code in getopt(1) not work if I change ``getopt'' to
> ``getopts'' in the first line?

It really is nothing like getopt(1). Not sure where it says anything
there that would lead one to believe that.

> I'm quite happy to RTFM, if only I could find a FM to R :)

But this is a very good point. I can't find the FM, but for some
reason, I know how to use this... It works more like getopt(3); maybe
that's why it feels familiar.

To get about the same functionality you see in the getopt(1) manpage,
you would have something like, 

  while getopts abo: OPT; do
      case $OPT in
	  a|b)
	      echo flag $OPT set; sflags="${OPT#-}$sflags"
              ;;
	  o)
	      echo oarg is "'"$OPTARG"'"; oarg="$OPTARG"
              ;;
	  *)
	      echo ERROR
	      exit 2
      esac
  done
  echo single-char flags: "'"$sflags"'"
  echo oarg is "'"$oarg"'"

getopts cycles through the argument list on its own. No need to
shift. It places the current option (the single letter) in the var
specified. The argument of the option, if it takes one, is in
OPTARG. Your current position on the command line is stored in OPTIND
(and is started at the first argument if OPTIND is unset).

Almost makes life too easy, huh?
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Here is what showed up in the .xsession-errors file:
############
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
BaseDisplay::BaseDisplay: connection to X server failed.
############

The TMPDIR info that you mentioned never showed up in the
/tmp directory. I also tried copying Xsession (/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/
Xsession) to .xsession, adding the window manager statements on the root 
directory.  That didn't work either.

PS - Blackbox is just another window manager.

>On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 06:55:16PM +0000, Kevin wrote:
>> Let me rephrase this.  Can someone tell me what I can do to
>> correct the problem with my .xsession file?
>> 
>> Kevin Weiss
>> kweiss@jump.net
>> 
>> >Hello all,
>> >
>> >I just received FreeBSD 4.0, and I am trying to get X Window (in 
>particular, 
>> >xdm) to read my .xsession file.  
>> >
>> >First, here is my .xsession file.  This one is from another machine
>> >I have running FreeBSD 3.4:
>> >
>> >#!/bin/sh
>> ># $XConsortium: xinitrc.cpp,v 1.4 91/08/22 11:41:34 rws Exp $
>> >
>> >userresources=$HOME/.Xresources
>> >usermodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap
>> >sysresources=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xresources
>> >sysmodmap=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap
>> >
>> ># merge in defaults and keymaps
>> >
>> >if [ -f $sysresources ]; then
>> >    xrdb -merge $sysresources
>> >fi
>> >
>> >if [ -f $sysmodmap ]; then
>> >    xmodmap $sysmodmap
>> >fi
>> >
>> >if [ -f $userresources ]; then
>> >    xrdb -merge $userresources
>> >fi
>> >
>> >if [ -f $usermodmap ]; then
>> >    xmodmap $usermodmap
>> >fi
>> >
>> ># start some nice programs
>> >
>> >xterm -geometry 80x24-240+180 &
>> >blackbox
>> >
>> >
>> >It is not reading my .xsession file, so everytime I try to login,
>> >xdm just returns me back to the login screen.  I checked to make sure my 
>> >.xsession file was executable (it was-- chmod 544), and even tried 
linking 
>> >.xsession to .xinitrc (didn't work).  Startx runs fine with
>> >any of my installed window managers, so I at least know that X Window
>> >is working.  Could this be a problem with my path (or lack thereof)?
>> >
>> >Thank you in advance!
>
>Is there anything in .xsession-errors? (Or $TMPDIR/xses-$USER or
>/tmp/xses-$USER?)
>
>Excuse me if I should know this, but what is "blackbox?" Is this
>command present on your system? What does it do?
>-- 
>Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@home.com
>
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How is FreeBSD moving along so quickly?  One month I am running 3.0R and a
few months later we are past 3.4 and on to 4.0 STABLE and finally we
have 5.0 out there already before a 4.1 STABLE exists.

I am confused.  What is going on with all these branches?  Is 5.0 the
FreeBSD/BSDi merge?  Is there a major technology leap with each version
which demands such widely spread version numbers?

My flawed upgrade to 4.0 a while back left me feeling FreeBSD is going too
fast and that stability and quality is suffering.  A friend of mine was
actually scared off and now prefers to go with Linux as it's development
seems to be more conservative.

Why is FreeBSD going so fast?  Could it be that the upcoming release of
Mac OS X was based on mostly on 3.2 and that FreeBSD wants to appear to be
years past that version?  If so, is it?

Are we going to be running version 9.0 in less than 5 years?

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* Brennan W Stehling  [000513 00:15] wrote:
> How is FreeBSD moving along so quickly?  One month I am running 3.0R and a
> few months later we are past 3.4 and on to 4.0 STABLE and finally we
> have 5.0 out there already before a 4.1 STABLE exists.

First off... 3.0-release was made over a year and a half ago.

4.0-release followed (a year and a half later), and the development
version is 5.0 which afaik will be a long while before it's a -release.

> I am confused.  What is going on with all these branches?  Is 5.0 the
> FreeBSD/BSDi merge?  Is there a major technology leap with each version
> which demands such widely spread version numbers?
> 
> My flawed upgrade to 4.0 a while back left me feeling FreeBSD is going too
> fast and that stability and quality is suffering.  A friend of mine was
> actually scared off and now prefers to go with Linux as it's development
> seems to be more conservative.
> 
> Why is FreeBSD going so fast?  Could it be that the upcoming release of
> Mac OS X was based on mostly on 3.2 and that FreeBSD wants to appear to be
> years past that version?  If so, is it?
> 
> Are we going to be running version 9.0 in less than 5 years?

No, and you really shouldn't blame us for your failure to keep up with
the most basic FreeBSD news.

thanks,
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> > Buy something smaller.  Benchmark your application, and determine what
> > your performance requirements are.  Make appropriate purchasing decisions
> > based on quantifiable results.
> 
> Well, we have done this, we are upgrading, not starting from scratch.
> 
> A dual system would work great, however I need a 64-Bit PCI slot to hold
> this Ultra 160 SCSI controller *and* I'd like to avoid spending $2500 in
> RDRAM to get what we already have in SDRAM :-)

So buy eg. a Supermicro PIIIDM3 or an AMI MegaDual, both of which have 
onboard U160 SCSI, both of which have 64-bit PCI, and both of which take 
much less expensive SDRAM and PIII processors.

> It's impossible, from what I've read to get exactly what I'm looking for..
> It seems I'm going to have to put up with my drives running at half speed,
> or invest a lot more money in RAM.

You're certainly not looking very hard.

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On Wed, 10 May 2000, Christopher T. Griffiths wrote:

> I know I saw that someone mentioned that they were in the process or going
> to port over Openssh 2.0 into current.  Has this happened yet and when if
> ever can we expect this to be merged into 4.0 -stable?
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Chris

I dunno. OpenSSH 2.1 is out, and it understands ssh protocols 1.0, 1.5,
and 2.0 !!!

Its about time this WAS integrated into the crypto tree, the current
version is quite old.

martin.

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I did not mean to start anything.  It just seems to be getting ahead of
the game developing 5.0 when there is no 4.1 or 4.2 yet.  I realize it is
a development version, but the fundamental reasons are not documented in
anything I have read.

For example, some DVD support is in the 4.0 branch while there is no work
in moving any of that back to 3.4 STABLE.  That could be because of some
technical reason that I am not aware of, or simply a resource mangement
decision.  If so, I can understand that.  There is no reason new features
in the current kernel need to go back to the previous branch.  People can
just upgrade.

But as people like myself are getting into 4.0 and finding things which
need to be fixed, the 5.0 has started.  It has always been my assumption
that the next version is based on the previous, but here the previous
version has not been perfected and the next version has started.

That is what I do not understand.  That is why I thought the 5.0 version
was the BSDi merge which is something I have read is going to be done over
the next few years.

I just want to understand how this version system supposed to work.

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On Sat, 13 May 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote:

> * Brennan W Stehling  [000513 00:45] wrote:
> > How can I keep up?  I looked at the release and news pages on the
> > freebsd.org website and did not see any mention of what is going on with
> > 5.0. And I read DaemonNews and Slashdot all of the time.  They make
> > mention of only minor things.
> > 
> > I see it mentioned and at times there is a mention of something happening
> > or some new drive is added either to 4.0 or 5.0 without really any big
> > picture anywhere.
> > 
> > The only place to get the latest is this list... and you respond by
> > telling me it is my fault that I am not keeping up.  Do you really feel
> > that I am at fault if I have to ask to find out about 5.0 development to
> > learn what is going on?
> 
> Yes it is.
> 
> As I said, 5.0 is the developer/experimental version, there is no
> 5.0-release yet.  If you know Linux then consider 5.0 one of the
> "odd numbered versions" of the Linux kernel right now, in a year
> or so 5.0 should be released.
> 
> If you want to keep informed about what's going on in 5.0 then
> subscribe to some of the technical mailing lists and read them, or
> wait for the release and read the release notes.
> 
> Making small accusations that the versioning is political in nature
> rather than for technical reasons is just silly.
> 
> -- 
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On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 03:10:32AM -0500, Brennan W Stehling wrote:
> I did not mean to start anything.  It just seems to be getting ahead of
> the game developing 5.0 when there is no 4.1 or 4.2 yet.  I realize it is
> a development version, but the fundamental reasons are not documented in
> anything I have read.

Have you read the handbook on the website about this? It explains all
your questions. 5.x is -current, 4.x is -stable. For at least 2 years
we've had these trees available, with the stable branch only getting the
bugfixes and part of the new stuff after it has been seriously put to
the test. So there will be 4.1, there might be 4.2, dunno. And there
will be development in the -current branch. There is no 5.0 release.
It's just development. And if you call Linux more conservative for
that... I seem to recall a thing about odd and even numbered kernel
releases...
> 
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On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 06:34:03PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote:
> On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 08:46:56AM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote:
> > On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 11:13:19PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote:
> > > Can someone clarify getopt(1) and getopts(1)? According to sh(1):
> > > 
> > >  getopts optstring var
> > >      The POSIX getopts command.  The getopts command deprecates the
> > >      older getopt(1) command.....
> > > 
> > > but there is no manpage for getopts(1), only getopt(1). The latter
> > > includes some sample code which works fine, however if I change
> > > ``getopt'' to ``getopts'' in this code I get:
> > > 
> > > parish:/usr/marko{89}% ./foobar -b
> > > getopts: -b: bad variable name
> > > Usage: ...
> > > parish:/usr/marko{90}%
> > > 
> > > Since getopt(1) is deprecated it would be better to use getopts(1).
> > > Can anyone explain the above error, or point me to some documentation
> > > for getopts(1)?
> > > 
> > 
> > On my system (4.0-stable) there is a manpage for getopts(1). It just a link
> > to buiiltin(1) which says that it is a builtin command in sh(1).
> 
> Same here (I'm also on 4-stable). I hadn't spotted that it is a copy
> of (not a link to) builtin(1).
> 
> > The manpage for sh(1) has the following to say about getopts:
> > 
> >    getopts optstring var
> >           The POSIX getopts command.  The getopts command deprecates the
> >           older getopt(1) command.  The first argument should be a series
> >           of letters, each possibly followed by a colon which indicates
> >           that the option takes an argument.  The specified variable is set
> >           to the parsed option.  The index of the next argument is placed
> >           into the shell variable OPTIND. If an option takes an argument,
> >           it is placed into the shell variable OPTARG. If an invalid option
> >           is encountered, var is set to `?''. It returns a false value (1)
> >           when it encounters the end of the options.
> > 
> >
> 
> The first couple of lines of which I quoted in my original post so,
> yes, I have read it. However it reads as though the syntax is the same
> as getopt(1) (at least to me it does). So the question remains; why
> does the sample code in getopt(1) not work if I change ``getopt'' to
> ``getopts'' in the first line?
> 
> I'm quite happy to RTFM, if only I could find a FM to R :)
>  

I've got it now :) Re-reading sh(1) several times made me realize that
"var" is not the input args (-a -b -c) as I thought, but a variable to
store the output from getopts(1) and that it returns an errno, not the
parsed string. I guess that's what you were pointing out to me (it's
been a long day). Trying it without args resulted in a useful Usage:
message

       getopts: Usage: getopts optstring var [arg]

So I have to use it in a loop thus:

   while getopts abo: arg $*
   do
	....
   done

Thanks for your help.

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> > I am conteplating a make world, but that may be overkill (and is very 
> > scary for me, being a relative newbie to the deep dark secrets of 
> > FreeBSD)... Any thoughts?
> 
> A make world is exactly what you should do.  You can not update your
> kernel without updating your modules and the prefered way to do so in
> 4.x is make world.  In 5.0 modules should have versions to avoid the
> panic and be updated with the kernel to avoid sync problems.  This is
> partialy working in current now.

Moreover, there's nothing scary about make world. Do it in two
steps, make buildworld (which you can do while using the machine
normally for other things) and make installworld (before which you
should preferably stop other jobs, perhaps bring it down to
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From: Brennan W Stehling 
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This makes more sense.  I have only been running FreeBSD systems for about
2 years now and when I started it seemed like development from 2.2.x to
3.x and up was very much geared towards fixing bugs and producing a solid
system.  It appears that things have accelerated in the last year.  With a
longer term view it may look different.

With Linux, they have moved slowly with version numbers and have added a
few features here and there.  (I do not follow that closely)  So that
seemed to be more conservative.

And when I tried 4.0 STABLE I had major problems which encouraged me to
run back to 3.4 STABLE where I feel STABLE.  Perhaps it was the upgrade
routine that was flawed and not the system and the kernel.  I would have
to wipe my system and start with a nice 4.0 cdrom, but I think I will wait
for a 4.1R cd before I do that.

My personal policy is to stay about 6 months behind the release and stable
for the systems I need to have very stable.  I have been safe with 3.x,
but am worried about 4.x for all the above reasons.

I think 3.4 is very solid very solid.  I could not imagine using Linux
again as I tried that out a for a while (Caldera, SuSE and Redhat) and did
not like them very much.  So I am not a FreeBSD hater, I think it is the
best you can get.

Sorry if I do not seem to like FreeBSD, I am just having a tough time
gauging if I can use 4.0 STABLE or not.  Sometimes STABLE is relative to
your experience with it and my luck with the newer stuff was not great,
despite the STABLE classification.

Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin
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On Sat, 13 May 2000, Mark Huizer wrote:

> On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 03:10:32AM -0500, Brennan W Stehling wrote:
> > I did not mean to start anything.  It just seems to be getting ahead of
> > the game developing 5.0 when there is no 4.1 or 4.2 yet.  I realize it is
> > a development version, but the fundamental reasons are not documented in
> > anything I have read.
> 
> Have you read the handbook on the website about this? It explains all
> your questions. 5.x is -current, 4.x is -stable. For at least 2 years
> we've had these trees available, with the stable branch only getting the
> bugfixes and part of the new stuff after it has been seriously put to
> the test. So there will be 4.1, there might be 4.2, dunno. And there
> will be development in the -current branch. There is no 5.0 release.
> It's just development. And if you call Linux more conservative for
> that... I seem to recall a thing about odd and even numbered kernel
> releases...
> > 
> Mark
> 



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It's a very good discussion, important and so, bud the better place
for that (I guess) is in advocacy list. What are you think so?

Ata.

on Saturday, 13 May 2000 10:19:52, Mark Huizer wrote:
> On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 03:10:32AM -0500, Brennan W Stehling wrote:
> > I did not mean to start anything.  It just seems to be getting ahead of
> > the game developing 5.0 when there is no 4.1 or 4.2 yet.  I realize it is
> > a development version, but the fundamental reasons are not documented in
> > anything I have read.
> 
> Have you read the handbook on the website about this? It explains all
> your questions. 5.x is -current, 4.x is -stable. For at least 2 years
> we've had these trees available, with the stable branch only getting the
> bugfixes and part of the new stuff after it has been seriously put to
> the test. So there will be 4.1, there might be 4.2, dunno. And there
> will be development in the -current branch. There is no 5.0 release.
> It's just development. And if you call Linux more conservative for
> that... I seem to recall a thing about odd and even numbered kernel
> releases...
> > 
> Mark
> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 5/13/00, 7:43:09 AM, Brennan W Stehling  wrote =

regarding 5.0 already?:


> How is FreeBSD moving along so quickly?  One month I am running 3.0R=20
and a
> few months later we are past 3.4 and on to 4.0 STABLE and finally we
> have 5.0 out there already before a 4.1 STABLE exists.

> I am confused.  What is going on with all these branches?  Is 5.0 the
> FreeBSD/BSDi merge?  Is there a major technology leap with each=20
version
> which demands such widely spread version numbers?

> My flawed upgrade to 4.0 a while back left me feeling FreeBSD is going=
=20
too
> fast and that stability and quality is suffering.  A friend of mine=20
was
> actually scared off and now prefers to go with Linux as it's=20
development
> seems to be more conservative.

> Why is FreeBSD going so fast?  Could it be that the upcoming release=20
of
> Mac OS X was based on mostly on 3.2 and that FreeBSD wants to appear=20
to be
> years past that version?  If so, is it?

> Are we going to be running version 9.0 in less than 5 years?

> Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin
> projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com |=20
www.sncalumni.com

> Microsoft: Will you get a macro virus today?



Dear Brennan,
this is the strength of Open Source ;-)))

Seriously, if you want a stable environment you can choose 3.4-S, or=20
the new 4-STABLE line, which, apart from (very) minor issues,seems to=20
perform quite well.=20

BTW, I run all three versions, ehem, when -CURRENT boots of course :-)

If you look at the matter the other way round, well, you'll see how=20
many years it takes e.g. M$ to introduce similar changes=20
(=3Dimprovements) ...=20

"Panta rei" (ie everything changes) should probably be FreeBSD's=20
motto, and this IS a good thing.

Best regards,
Salvo





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* Ataualpa Albert Carmo Braga  [000513 02:15] wrote:
> 
> It's a very good discussion, important and so, bud the better place
> for that (I guess) is in advocacy list. What are you think so?

No, it's completely off topic for advocacy.

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On Sat, 13 May 2000, Doug Young wrote:

> I'm attempting to setup two ISA internal modems in a 486dx2-66 running
> FreeBSD 4.0. The reason for internal ones is that the box was needed
> urgently
> (its a permanently connected internet gateway) and the bits lurking around
> didn't
> include a multi I/O card with 16550 UARTS. The internet modem has been
> running well on cuaa0 for weeks, but I need to get the second modem on cuaa1
> configured so it can connect the first LAN to a Win2000 / Win9x LAN a few
> suburbs away. The motherboard is ISA / VESA, so there's no onboard COM ports
> to cause conflicts, and both modems have jumper IRQ configuration.
> 
> I checked the kernel configuration file for tun & ppp devices, there are two
> of each so I figure that won't need any modification.
> 
> (1) Despite the first modem working well, the output of dmesg looks weird to
> me.
>  sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
>  sio0: type 16550A
> sio1: configured irq3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
> sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq3 on isa0
> sio1: type 16550A
> ...

That's likely to happen if the hardware device is not configured to use
irq 3. Are you sure you've set the jumpers to use irq 3?

-ac

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> That's likely to happen if the hardware device is not configured to use
> irq 3. Are you sure you've set the jumpers to use irq 3?
> 

sure am ..... both modems work well, except that the second one doesn't 
appear to like ppp for some reason (no problem with minicom though)




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On Sat, 13 May 2000, Brennan W Stehling wrote:

> How is FreeBSD moving along so quickly?  One month I am running 3.0R and a
> few months later we are past 3.4 and on to 4.0 STABLE and finally we
> have 5.0 out there already before a 4.1 STABLE exists.

I was told that the new numbering scheme was only x.0-RELEASE, x.0-STABLE,
so on and so forth, I'm yet to verify this.

> I am confused.  What is going on with all these branches?  Is 5.0 the
> FreeBSD/BSDi merge?  Is there a major technology leap with each version
> which demands such widely spread version numbers?

As of my knowledge, no.
 
> My flawed upgrade to 4.0 a while back left me feeling FreeBSD is going too
> fast and that stability and quality is suffering.  A friend of mine was
> actually scared off and now prefers to go with Linux as it's development
> seems to be more conservative.

What stability problems are you having with 4.0?

> Why is FreeBSD going so fast?  Could it be that the upcoming release of
> Mac OS X was based on mostly on 3.2 and that FreeBSD wants to appear to be
> years past that version?  If so, is it?

No, FreeBSD isn't doing a Slackware-type scheme.

> Are we going to be running version 9.0 in less than 5 years?

Possibly. I mean, do the differences between version numbers make a
difference to the operating system itself? If 4.0 was called 10.0, would
it matter that it has a new number? What if it was called 1.15? Version
numbers are just there for the purposes of keeping track of things, the
numbers themselves don't influence the software, and it's up to the
manafacturer of whatever software product to increment the version numbers
in any way they feel fit.

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From: james 
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I guess we'll know if bsd gets taken over by micro$oft, because we'll have
freebsd 2000! :-))

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> Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 07:40:33 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Omachonu Ogali 
> To: Brennan W Stehling 
> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
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> 
> On Sat, 13 May 2000, Brennan W Stehling wrote:

[snip]

> No, FreeBSD isn't doing a Slackware-type scheme.
> 
> > Are we going to be running version 9.0 in less than 5 years?
> 
> Possibly. I mean, do the differences between version numbers make a
> difference to the operating system itself? If 4.0 was called 10.0, would
> it matter that it has a new number? What if it was called 1.15? Version
> numbers are just there for the purposes of keeping track of things, the
> numbers themselves don't influence the software, and it's up to the
> manafacturer of whatever software product to increment the version numbers
> in any way they feel fit.
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hi
i want ask some questions:
1- if i have a machine, how i can make a domain and i use it for          
apache server or for bnc or for users in the shells ?
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Yes, you can run your domain on a FreeBSD box from home (some
assembly required).  I have an old AMD K5-133 that's running apache
1.3.9 for a public domain--I'm working on getting a faster machine :-)

As for the other two questions, I can't really help you there...

Kevin Weiss
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Hi,

I am using a freebsd box as a gateway to connect to internet.  It is
running natd.  I find in the /var/log/messages that "natd[13276]: failed
to write packet back (Permission denied)" quite often.  I try to enable
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The box is running 4.0-stable cvsup'ed month ago.

Thanks.

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> On Sat, 13 May 2000, Brennan W Stehling wrote:

> > My flawed upgrade to 4.0 a while back left me feeling FreeBSD is going too
> > fast and that stability and quality is suffering.  A friend of mine was
> > actually scared off and now prefers to go with Linux as it's development
> > seems to be more conservative.

I don't know what kind of crack that guy is smoking, but there is
nothing at all conservative about Linux or GNU in general.  Even if we
forget about all the communist ideology behind the GPL, they'll still
take a patch from just about anyone unless it total sucks.  The only
reason that it looks like FreeBSD is moving so fast, as opposed to say,
RedHat, is because FreeBSD is controlled by one group, as opposed to
scavenging everything rom thousands of different people.  Linux its self
is just an operating system kernel and can do nothing useful on it's
own.  
Plus, do you think it's coincidence that Richard Stallmans name sounds
so much like Joseph Stalin?


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I have seen quite a few questions relating to this topic but never any
answers so I will try myself.

One of the machines I have running FreeBSD is my desktop machine running
an Athlon 600 with FIC SD-11 motherboard.

I have now tried two different IDE hard disks, I have tried disabling
the 32bit transfers and setting the mode down to 0 but with no effect.
The problem is that the system reports lots of errors like

	/kernel: ad0: UDMA ICRC WRITE ERROR blk# 3062797 retrying

or
	/kernel: ad0: UDMA ICRC WRITE ERROR blk#2400383ata0-master: WARNING:
WAIT_READY active=ATA_ACTIVE_ATA

Then eventually

	/kernel: falling back to PIO mode

This happens from the time of startup until the system falls back to PIO
mode.  Unfortunately, lately the machine has started locking solid when
running X and needs a hard reboot to sort it out - I suspect that if
there have been lots of these write errors over time it will screw the
file system (technical term!).  I have only had to do an fsck manually a
few times but don't really want to re-build everything until I know how
to sort the disk problem.

Is there anyway to force the machine to start up in PIO mode? does
anyone know if this might cure the problem?

Thanks in advance

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Mike,

You said

	Buy something smaller.  Benchmark your application, and determine what
	your performance requirements are.  Make appropriate purchasing
decisions
	based on quantifiable results.

Can you give me any pointers on how to go about this.  I have a web site
that
we are currently building using
FreeBSD4.0/Apache1.3.12/PHP3.0.16/MySQL3.22.32
and have some very large database tables/joins etc.  At the moment we
just use
the very very sophisticated tuning method of "allocating bigger buffers
until it
runs faster" and any information on a more scientific approach would be
greatly
appreciated.

I know that ps -ax will show me how much processor time the process has
used but
how do I know how much/how effeciently it is using memory etc.

Regards

Simon

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> Oh, one more thing..
>
> Why would I need XEON processors? The only differenced between those
and
> other PIII's is the full speed cache (and more of it usually), right?

You can't run more than two PII or PIII processors in a system.

> *shrug* not really sure. The motherboards say they support PIII/XEON,
so I
> was wondering what your logic was behind what you said.

"PIII/Xeon" means "Pentium-III Xeon processor", not "PIII or Xeon
processors".

> As far as the database using all 4 processors, any threaded program
*could*
> use them, couldn't they?

Not unless it's designed to do so.  I don't believe that Postgres
is/does.

> *shrug* I'm a total newbie with multi-processor systems, I've never
had
> anything big enough to need one so some of what I said could be totaly
> wrong.. Please, feel free to school me :-)

Buy something smaller.  Benchmark your application, and determine what
your performance requirements are.  Make appropriate purchasing
decisions
based on quantifiable results.

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On Sat, 13 May 2000, William Freeman wrote:

> > On Sat, 13 May 2000, Brennan W Stehling wrote:
> 
> > > My flawed upgrade to 4.0 a while back left me feeling FreeBSD is going too
> > > fast and that stability and quality is suffering.  A friend of mine was
> > > actually scared off and now prefers to go with Linux as it's development
> > > seems to be more conservative.
> 
> I don't know what kind of crack that guy is smoking, but there is
> nothing at all conservative about Linux or GNU in general.  Even if we
> forget about all the communist ideology behind the GPL, they'll still
> take a patch from just about anyone unless it total sucks.  The only
> reason that it looks like FreeBSD is moving so fast, as opposed to say,
> RedHat, is because FreeBSD is controlled by one group, as opposed to
> scavenging everything rom thousands of different people.  Linux its self
> is just an operating system kernel and can do nothing useful on it's
> own.

Let's not start another licence bashing thread on this list please. Or at
least let him who uses no GPLed or otherwise ideologically tainted
software cast the first incendiary device.

BWS: And, yes, the guy who called Linux development conservative must be
under the influence of some hallucinogenic substance, regardless what
distribution he uses (FreeLSD comes to mind :). So you had a bad upgrade,
happens to everyone (think Linux 2.0 to 2.2, do I have horror stories
for you). Better luck next time. And please remember that it's a rule of
thumb that x.0 releases are NOT recommended for immediate production use
by the unwary or paranoid. Play with it on an idle box for a while and
see how it performs. Personally, I'm so far pleased with its stability,
features and performance and am putting it into production on new
machines. You may have a more conservative outlook in which case 3.x,
which you know is solid and reliable, ought to serve you as well as it's
always done.

> Plus, do you think it's coincidence that Richard Stallmans name sounds
> so much like Joseph Stalin?
> 
Under that logic (and since you appear to like conspiracy theories), 
FreeBSD, due to its longstanding association with the name Hubbard, is
another scientological attempt at world domination. And your name,
William...Bill... hmm, suspicious. :)

-ac

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Hi,

Anyone know where this log file is?
kernel log messages:
>  table is full
> file: table is full

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Darren Wyn Rees wrote:

> Using Linux, I can type 'man -l ' to pick up a local man page.
> 
> (By "local", I mean man page is in pwd).
> 
> How can I do that with FreeBSD man command ?
> 
> I've tried ... man -M  

You could do it the hard way,

groff -mdoc -mtty-char -Tascii manpage.1 | less
or
gzip -dc manpage.1.gz | groff -mdoc -mtty-char -Tascii | less

Or you could stick those in a simple script, say "lman":

#!/bin/sh
for i; do
	case $i in
	*.gz)
		gzip -dc $i | groff -mdoc -mtty-char -Tascii | less
		;;
	*)
		groff -mdoc -mtty-char -Tascii $i | less
		;;
	esac
done

s/less/more/ if that's what you prefer.  All completely untested, of
course. :-) The downside is that you have to type "lman progname.1" or
whatever instead of just "lman progname".

As for -M, I think man expects to find man[1-9] directories inside each
directory of MANPATH, so if you do 'man -M /foo bar' it will probably
look for /foo/man1/bar.1, /foo/cat1/bar.1, etc, repeating for values of
1..9.  Try 'man -d' to see exactly what's happening.

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Yes the May Issue its out!, please check:
 
http://www.freebsdzine.org/

sorry Jim i couldnt wait for this heheeheheh.
 
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Hello,
I'm currently messing around with ipfw but I can't reach anything
useful at the moment. May anyone point me to some nice documentations,
tutorials, FAQs and such stuff (I've read the ipfw manpage and The Complete
FreeBSD, thanks Greg, helped me a lot, but not here...)? Or is there even
a console or webbased administration tool available? In the past I found
it quite handy to have a automatically generated config that is
working as base so you can see what you did wrong and do it by hand
next time...




Best regards,
 Gabriel




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Hello,
I'm currently messing around with ipfw but I can't reach anything
useful at the moment. May anyone point me to some nice documentations,
tutorials, FAQs and such stuff (I've read the ipfw manpage and The Complete
FreeBSD, thanks Greg, helped me a lot, but not here...)? Or is there even
a console or webbased administration tool available? In the past I found
it quite handy to have a automatically generated config that is
working as base so you can see what you did wrong and do it by hand
next time...




Best regards,
 Gabriel




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I put a new 12GB drive in my laptop and re-installed Windows and
FreeBSD.  I allocated 4GB to W95 and the remaining 8 to FreeBSD.
Boot0 (I think) offers up the following:

F1 - DOS
F2 - FreeBSD
F5 - 

The only option that works here is F5, which brings up a second menu:

F1 - DOS
F2 - FreeBSD

At this menu, either F1 or F2 works fine.

Two questions:  1) can I easily get rid of bthe first menu?  2) I'd
like to upgrade to 4-Stable; is this likely to cause any problems?  

Thanks for any advice you can give.

RM

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Hi,

Was checking my login.conf the other day and decided to play with the
'idletime' setting.  I set it to 30 and left myself logged in for 30
minutes, but nothing happended - and I thought it would log me out from
this.

I added it to the 'default' section so I presume my username was covered. So
what silly thing have I forgot to do or miss out to make it work?

Thanks,
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Not sure about using login.conf to do this, but you can use idled
(/usr/ports/sysutils/idled) to do the same thing.  :)

Cheers,
Marc

On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 04:04:30PM +0100, Andy Coates wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Was checking my login.conf the other day and decided to play with the
> 'idletime' setting.  I set it to 30 and left myself logged in for 30
> minutes, but nothing happended - and I thought it would log me out from
> this.
> 
> I added it to the 'default' section so I presume my username was covered. So
> what silly thing have I forgot to do or miss out to make it work?
> 
> Thanks,
> Andy.


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this on a more-or-less brand new install of f-bsd 4.o release 

after I finished the install, i logged-on as root and created a user account

after that i tried to set the account's password

passwd USER


that command hangs for about10-15 minutes before coming up with the next 
prompt....

what IS it looking for and can I disable that , please ??


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> Mark Ovens writes:
>   # cd /usr/ports/www/mozilla-fonts
>   # make install

Mark:
I don't have the mozilla-fonts folder in my 3.4R version.
All I have is mozilla.

Is there still a way to do this?
(Still somewhat inexperienced with ports.)

Thanks
Jim

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 5/13/00, 1:42:21 PM, William Freeman  wrote=20
regarding Re: 5.0 already?:

> I don't know what kind of crack that guy is smoking, but there is
> nothing at all conservative about Linux or GNU in general.  Even if we=

> forget about all the communist ideology behind the GPL, they'll still
> take a patch from just about anyone unless it total sucks.  The only
> reason that it looks like FreeBSD is moving so fast, as opposed to=20
say,
> RedHat, is because FreeBSD is controlled by one group, as opposed to
> scavenging everything rom thousands of different people.  Linux its=20
self
> is just an operating system kernel and can do nothing useful on it's
> own.
> Plus, do you think it's coincidence that Richard Stallmans name sounds=

> so much like Joseph Stalin?


> --
> William D. Freeman (wfreeman@picusnet.com)
> http://memebers.xoom.com/EvilGNU
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Dear D. Freeman,

Would you define *scientific* research as "communist" ?=20

After all, apart from specific military constraints (especially on=20
**technologies**), science is normally, as it were, "Open Source".

By the way, if it weren't, our "civilization" would not be=20
significantly different from that of the=20
XVII century.


Please note: science !=3D technology.

Incidentally, the Latin root of the word "science" and the main Greek=20
root of  the word "technology" have different meanings.=20

Best regards,
Salvo





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Hi everyone,

I've been playing with FreeBSD 4.0 for the past 3 weeks and have come to
like it very very much. I've managed to get ftp, http, ssh, and samba
running perfectly. My last configuration issue is a little bit beyond me and
I need a little help.

This is the situation. I'm soon going to have DSL service from GTE and I
want my BSD box to be a web, mail, ftp server (no NAT required because I can
get as many IP's as I want). I want to run on it a domain name that my gf
bought, for the purposes of this let's call it www.coolsite.com. I will have
a mostly fixed IP, by that I mean that from what my friends with similar
service tell me, the IPs change about once to twice a month. That's
acceptable for me because I don't need 99.9999% availability online... I
just want to experiment and learn. So I figured I can just go on their page
when the IP changes and change it...
The domain name was bougth at www.register.com. They provide primary and
secondary dns service for it.

Which brings us to question 1.

1) Should I bother running a dns service on my machine ?

I want to use qmail for my mail, and I have set up the MX entry on the dns
at register.com to point at coolsite.com .

what should I use as the hostname for my machine ?

should it be coolsite.com ?

will the DHCP server assign me one if I ask for one ?

or should I call it anything I want... like cooldude ?

how will that affect my hosts entry ?

if someone who's doing something like this already could help me, I would
inifintely appreciate it.

Thank you in advance,

Genti//



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Hi everyone,



I've been playing with FreeBSD 4.0 for the past 3 weeks and have come
to

like it very very much. I've managed to get ftp, http, ssh, and
samba

running perfectly. My last configuration issue is a little bit beyond me
and

I need a little help.



This is the situation. I'm soon going to have DSL service from GTE and
I

want my BSD box to be a web, mail, ftp server (no NAT required because I
can

get as many IP's as I want). I want to run on it a domain name that my
gf

bought, for the purposes of this let's call it
www.coolsite.com.
I will have

a mostly fixed IP, by that I mean that from what my friends with
similar

service tell me, the IPs change about once to twice a month. That's

acceptable for me because I don't need 99.9999% availability online...
I

just want to experiment and learn. So I figured I can just go on their
page

when the IP changes and change it...

The domain name was bougth at
www.register.com.
They provide primary and

secondary dns service for it.



Which brings us to question 1.



1) Should I bother running a dns service on my machine ?



I want to use qmail for my mail, and I have set up the MX entry on the
dns

at register.com to point at coolsite.com .



what should I use as the hostname for my machine ?



should it be coolsite.com ?



will the DHCP server assign me one if I ask for one ?



or should I call it anything I want... like cooldude ?



how will that affect my hosts entry ?



if someone who's doing something like this already could help me, I
would

inifintely appreciate it.



Thank you in advance,



Genti//







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On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 01:20:23AM +0000, Kevin wrote:
> Here is what showed up in the .xsession-errors file:
> ############
> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
> BaseDisplay::BaseDisplay: connection to X server failed.
> ############

There's your problem. The server does not think you have the
authorization to connect to the server. My first guess would be that
you built X with PAM support. However, I seem to recall that error
being worded slightly differently, and from what you said, I assume
you installed X from the 4.0 CD? I've been snooping in the X sources
and found parts of the error, but it's rather complicated in
there. Have you done any other customizations to the setup?

> The TMPDIR info that you mentioned never showed up in the
> /tmp directory.

That is where errors end up if for some reason, xdm cannot write
to .xsession-errors. 

> I also tried copying Xsession (/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/
> Xsession) to .xsession, adding the window manager statements on the root 
> directory.  That didn't work either.

I would not expect it to. What you should do to try the most basic
setup is not copy Xsession to .xsession, but rather just go with no
.xsession at all.

> PS - Blackbox is just another window manager.

OK. Does not look like it is the issue.

> >On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 06:55:16PM +0000, Kevin wrote:
> >> Let me rephrase this.  Can someone tell me what I can do to
> >> correct the problem with my .xsession file?
> >> 
> >> Kevin Weiss
> >> kweiss@jump.net
> >> 
> >> >Hello all,
> >> >
> >> >I just received FreeBSD 4.0, and I am trying to get X Window (in 
> >particular, 
> >> >xdm) to read my .xsession file.  
> >> >
> >> >First, here is my .xsession file.  This one is from another machine
> >> >I have running FreeBSD 3.4:
> >> >
> >> >#!/bin/sh
> >> ># $XConsortium: xinitrc.cpp,v 1.4 91/08/22 11:41:34 rws Exp $
> >> >
> >> >userresources=$HOME/.Xresources
> >> >usermodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap
> >> >sysresources=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xresources
> >> >sysmodmap=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap
> >> >
> >> ># merge in defaults and keymaps
> >> >
> >> >if [ -f $sysresources ]; then
> >> >    xrdb -merge $sysresources
> >> >fi
> >> >
> >> >if [ -f $sysmodmap ]; then
> >> >    xmodmap $sysmodmap
> >> >fi
> >> >
> >> >if [ -f $userresources ]; then
> >> >    xrdb -merge $userresources
> >> >fi
> >> >
> >> >if [ -f $usermodmap ]; then
> >> >    xmodmap $usermodmap
> >> >fi
> >> >
> >> ># start some nice programs
> >> >
> >> >xterm -geometry 80x24-240+180 &
> >> >blackbox
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >It is not reading my .xsession file, so everytime I try to login,
> >> >xdm just returns me back to the login screen.  I checked to make sure my 
> >> >.xsession file was executable (it was-- chmod 544), and even tried 
> linking 
> >> >.xsession to .xinitrc (didn't work).  Startx runs fine with
> >> >any of my installed window managers, so I at least know that X Window
> >> >is working.  Could this be a problem with my path (or lack thereof)?
> >> >
> >> >Thank you in advance!
> >
> >Is there anything in .xsession-errors? (Or $TMPDIR/xses-$USER or
> >/tmp/xses-$USER?)
> >
> >Excuse me if I should know this, but what is "blackbox?" Is this
> >command present on your system? What does it do?
> >-- 
> >Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@home.com
> >
> >
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Alright, this is how it works. 3.x-STABLE is STILL the only TRUELY Stable
tree. the x.0 releases are meant to be releases which iron some stuff out,
and when the x.1 release comes out, that is when the tree becomes -STABLE. 


-Stable progresses along with bugfixes and minor added features from
-CURRENT, and every so often a -RELEASE is taken as a snapshot from
-STABLE and given a new version number. -Current takes on the next major
revision number, but usually doesn't come out for a year to a year and a
half. 

> 
> > How is FreeBSD moving along so quickly?  One month I am running 3.0R and a
> > few months later we are past 3.4 and on to 4.0 STABLE and finally we
> > have 5.0 out there already before a 4.1 STABLE exists.
> 
> I was told that the new numbering scheme was only x.0-RELEASE, x.0-STABLE,
> so on and so forth, I'm yet to verify this.
> 
> > I am confused.  What is going on with all these branches?  Is 5.0 the
> > FreeBSD/BSDi merge?  Is there a major technology leap with each version
> > which demands such widely spread version numbers?
> 
> As of my knowledge, no.
>  
> > My flawed upgrade to 4.0 a while back left me feeling FreeBSD is going too
> > fast and that stability and quality is suffering.  A friend of mine was
> > actually scared off and now prefers to go with Linux as it's development
> > seems to be more conservative.
> 
> What stability problems are you having with 4.0?
> 
> > Why is FreeBSD going so fast?  Could it be that the upcoming release of
> > Mac OS X was based on mostly on 3.2 and that FreeBSD wants to appear to be
> > years past that version?  If so, is it?
> 
> No, FreeBSD isn't doing a Slackware-type scheme.
> 
> > Are we going to be running version 9.0 in less than 5 years?
> 
> Possibly. I mean, do the differences between version numbers make a
> difference to the operating system itself? If 4.0 was called 10.0, would
> it matter that it has a new number? What if it was called 1.15? Version
> numbers are just there for the purposes of keeping track of things, the
> numbers themselves don't influence the software, and it's up to the
> manafacturer of whatever software product to increment the version numbers
> in any way they feel fit.
> 
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Hey nerds!

    I'm having a bit of trouble with a new install of FreeBSD 4.0.  My =
copy of FreeBSD 3.4 'crashed' on me a couple days ago.  I was getting =
errors while running programs such as 'pico' or even 'ndc'.  Anyway, I =
did a format + CD-Rom installation of FreeBSD 4.0.  Ever since the =
install, my computer reboots itself automatically.  As I recall it does =
this when disk and network accesses are at an idle (this may having =
nothing to do with the problem though).  The error I've been receiving =
is as follow:

Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
fault virtual address: 0x8
fault code =3D supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer =3D 0x8:0xc01cd748
stack pointer =3D 0x19:0xc02f7804
frame pointer =3D 0x10:0xc02f780c
code segment =3D base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b, DPL 0, pres 1, =
def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags =3D interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL =3D 0
current process =3D Idle
interrupt mask =3D
trap number =3D 12
panic: page fault

syncing disks... 19 11
done
Uptime: 13m12s

    I haven't modified the hardware at all since I originally installed =
FreeBSD 3.4-Stable.  I have, however, made the following changes in =
hopes that I could find a solution to the problem:
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    4. Replaced the existing 250watt power supply with a 300watt power =
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    Essentially, the only hardware that has gone through all this with =
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think?).  I've also tried a macronix, but I only have one, so I can't =
rule out the fact that the system doesn't like my Realtek(s).  I think =
the biggest problem for me right now is that I can't decipher the error =
I'm getting.  One of the funniest (well, not really funny...) is that =
the current process is stated as being 'Idle'.  So is the system trying =
to tell me that it crashes when it's not doing anything?

    It would be excellent if anyone can point me in the right direction =
here!  Thanx in advance!

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    I'm having a bit of trouble with =
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instruction pointer =3D 0x8:0xc01cd748


stack pointer =3D 0x19:0xc02f7804


frame pointer =3D 0x10:0xc02f780c


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current process =3D Idle


interrupt mask =3D


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panic: page fault


 


syncing disks... 19 11


done


Uptime: 13m12s


 


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Greetings:

I am running FreeBSD 3.3 RELEASE on a brand new Intel Celeron 500 mhz
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When compiling and running a mathematically intensive program in C on
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Running a program of a similar nature (xephem 4.28) pre-compiled as a
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Is this a gcc problem, or a FreeBSD 3.3 problem?

Is there anything I can do about it?

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Hi folks, please help or point me at the correct literature:

After using Linux for some time, I recently installed FreeBSD
(3.3-release) on a new IDE drive configured as primary
master.  After doing this, I had to install another IDE drive
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As expected, FreeBSD drop me into single-user mode on boot,
because the fstab entries are now incorrect.  I need to modify
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I need to change the FreeBSD drive back to primary master,
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Please help me or point me in the right direction.  (I've
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Hi,
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Since I moved from 3.4-stable to 4.0-stable, I am having serious problems when
it comes to printing.

I have a HP2100M (postscript). It has printed everythin I throw at it, with no
problems.

Since 4.0-s I have noticed the following :

- sometimes without any explanation, the printer just keeps blinking, as if it
was going to print something (lpq confirms there is queued stuff) and it stays
there for a very long time until the printing comes out; it doesn't matter if
it is an image or a 2 line ascii file

- other times the behaviour is normal

- when the problem happens I HAVE to restart the system as I didn't find any
other way to have printing behaviour in it's normal condition. I tried to erase
all jobs (success always here), kill lpd and starting it again - nothing of
this works, only restarting the system :(

I thought it could be something with lpd, so I installed LPRng. The problem's
the same.

Today I even tried other modes with lptcontrol (-e for instance) and I got a
reset from the system when I sent something to the printer, as if I pressed the
reset button. hooowwwww

Other times lptcontrol complained that the device was busy, even after killing
lpd and all that.

What could be wrong here ? I didn't change the configuration when I moved to 4.
Maybe I should have done something. What did I miss ?

I am not saying this is a problem since 4. Only seemed to happen since then.
Printing here is quite heavy and something like this would have been noticed.

Tkx for your help.

Joao


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On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 04:31:03PM +0000, Kiril Mitev wrote:
> this on a more-or-less brand new install of f-bsd 4.o release 
> 
> after I finished the install, i logged-on as root and created a user account
> 
> after that i tried to set the account's password
> 
> passwd USER
> 
> 
> that command hangs for about10-15 minutes before coming up with the next 
> prompt....
> 
> what IS it looking for and can I disable that , please ??

Do you have NIS turned on?
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On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 02:47:30PM -0400, Nathaniel G H wrote:
> Hi folks, please help or point me at the correct literature:
> 
> After using Linux for some time, I recently installed FreeBSD
> (3.3-release) on a new IDE drive configured as primary
> master.  After doing this, I had to install another IDE drive
> in the same machine and for various reasons, it has to be
> primary master.  The FreeBSD drive is now primary slave.
> 
> As expected, FreeBSD drop me into single-user mode on boot,
> because the fstab entries are now incorrect.  I need to modify
> fstab but can't because the filesystem is mounted read-only!
> 
> I need to change the FreeBSD drive back to primary master,
> boot normally, modify fstab, then change the drives back.  Does
> anything need to be modified besides fstab?
> 
> Please help me or point me in the right direction.  (I've
> already read the printed book and spent countless hours reading
> the website.)

Rather than get in the machine and start moving jumpers around on
drives, you can boot the install floppies and go to the 'Fixit'
option. Use the fixit.flp (everyone does grab one of these, right?)
option in the submenu. From there, mount the root partition of the
slave R-W and edit /etc/fstab appropriately.

Off of the top of my head, I can't think of anything besides fstab
that would be messed up with moving the HDD. It sounds like your boot
process already works if you are getting to single-user mode, and that
is usually the other catch when moving a drive.
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On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 03:01:26PM +0100, Peter.H wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Anyone know where this log file is?
> kernel log messages:
> >  table is full
> > file: table is full

Not sure what you are asking here. 

If you have not made any modifications to teh distributed
/etc/syslog.conf, that log message would end up in
/var/log/messages.

If you are quoting something you got in the default, nightly email
report and want to know where it came from, have a look at
/etc/security. The 'kernel log messages' are generated from the
dmesg(1) output.
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On Wed, 10 May 2000, Jim Freeze wrote:

> > Mark Ovens writes:
> >   # cd /usr/ports/www/mozilla-fonts
> >   # make install
> 
> Mark:
> I don't have the mozilla-fonts folder in my 3.4R version.
> All I have is mozilla.
> 
> Is there still a way to do this?
> (Still somewhat inexperienced with ports.)


Try /usr/ports/x11-fonts/mozilla-fonts

also be sure to read the installed README to get them working.

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Hi Folks

I have a PCI realtek based NIC (I believe its an accton, according to my
invoice) and FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE installed on the machine, but something
is not working right. 'dmesg' shows up rl0: Realtek bla bla bla bla, but
then on the next line I get this odd error:

rl0: couldn't map ports/memory

Has anyone any ideas/past experience to help..? The card is not
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I am not sure what PAM support is, but you are correct in that
initially installed X from the 4.0 CD.  I then reran xf86config
in the root shell, and got startx to run (and it still does).

Other than changing the necessary line in /etc/ttys, that's 
about all I've done related to X.

Kevin Weiss
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>On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 01:20:23AM +0000, Kevin wrote:
>> Here is what showed up in the .xsession-errors file:
>> ############
>> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
>> Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
>> BaseDisplay::BaseDisplay: connection to X server failed.
>> ############
>
>There's your problem. The server does not think you have the
>authorization to connect to the server. My first guess would be that
>you built X with PAM support. However, I seem to recall that error
>being worded slightly differently, and from what you said, I assume
>you installed X from the 4.0 CD? I've been snooping in the X sources
>and found parts of the error, but it's rather complicated in
>there. Have you done any other customizations to the setup?
>
>> The TMPDIR info that you mentioned never showed up in the
>> /tmp directory.
>
>That is where errors end up if for some reason, xdm cannot write
>to .xsession-errors. 
>
>> I also tried copying Xsession (/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/
>> Xsession) to .xsession, adding the window manager statements on the root 
>> directory.  That didn't work either.
>
>I would not expect it to. What you should do to try the most basic
>setup is not copy Xsession to .xsession, but rather just go with no
>.xsession at all.
>
>> PS - Blackbox is just another window manager.
>
>OK. Does not look like it is the issue.
>
>> >On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 06:55:16PM +0000, Kevin wrote:
>> >> Let me rephrase this.  Can someone tell me what I can do to
>> >> correct the problem with my .xsession file?
>> >> 
>> >> Kevin Weiss
>> >> kweiss@jump.net
>> >> 
>> >> >Hello all,
>> >> >
>> >> >I just received FreeBSD 4.0, and I am trying to get X Window (in 
>> >particular, 
>> >> >xdm) to read my .xsession file.  
>> >> >
>> >> >First, here is my .xsession file.  This one is from another machine
>> >> >I have running FreeBSD 3.4:
>> >> >
>> >> >#!/bin/sh
>> >> ># $XConsortium: xinitrc.cpp,v 1.4 91/08/22 11:41:34 rws Exp $
>> >> >
>> >> >userresources=$HOME/.Xresources
>> >> >usermodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap
>> >> >sysresources=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xresources
>> >> >sysmodmap=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap
>> >> >
>> >> ># merge in defaults and keymaps
>> >> >
>> >> >if [ -f $sysresources ]; then
>> >> >    xrdb -merge $sysresources
>> >> >fi
>> >> >
>> >> >if [ -f $sysmodmap ]; then
>> >> >    xmodmap $sysmodmap
>> >> >fi
>> >> >
>> >> >if [ -f $userresources ]; then
>> >> >    xrdb -merge $userresources
>> >> >fi
>> >> >
>> >> >if [ -f $usermodmap ]; then
>> >> >    xmodmap $usermodmap
>> >> >fi
>> >> >
>> >> ># start some nice programs
>> >> >
>> >> >xterm -geometry 80x24-240+180 &
>> >> >blackbox
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >It is not reading my .xsession file, so everytime I try to login,
>> >> >xdm just returns me back to the login screen.  I checked to make sure 
>my 
>> >> >.xsession file was executable (it was-- chmod 544), and even tried 
>> linking 
>> >> >.xsession to .xinitrc (didn't work).  Startx runs fine with
>> >> >any of my installed window managers, so I at least know that X Window
>> >> >is working.  Could this be a problem with my path (or lack thereof)?
>> >> >
>> >> >Thank you in advance!
>> >
>> >Is there anything in .xsession-errors? (Or $TMPDIR/xses-$USER or
>> >/tmp/xses-$USER?)
>> >
>> >Excuse me if I should know this, but what is "blackbox?" Is this
>> >command present on your system? What does it do?
>> >-- 
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>> >
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* Frankie Li  [000513 12:24] wrote:
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> 	I am wondering if PostgreSQL runs on FreeBSD, and if there
> is any resources online or offline (books) on PostgreSQL.

It runs, there's a port for it, but the newest 7.0 version seems
to work fine as well, the online docs can be found at www.postgresql.org,
there's a book expected in the next couple of months.

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You might want to look at the mail archives on the FreeBSD site. There is a 
thread explaining this situation.

Does anyone know if there was ever a resolution to this problem?

Kevin Weiss
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>Hi,
>
>I am using a freebsd box as a gateway to connect to internet.  It is
>running natd.  I find in the /var/log/messages that "natd[13276]: failed
>to write packet back (Permission denied)" quite often.  I try to enable
>the log of natd, but nothing special here.  I also check my firewall log
>but nothing is denied.  Any clues?
>
>The box is running 4.0-stable cvsup'ed month ago.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Chris
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On Fri, 12 May 2000, Andrew MacIntyre wrote:

> IIRC Matthew Hunt has done a lot of work to bring MCA support to FreeBSD,

Apologies, it was actually Matthew Dodd.

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Is there any better documentation on 4.0's IPX/NCP support and what's
required to make it go?

I have options IPX and options NCP in my kernel configuration.

ifconfig xl0 ipx  up

running IPXrouted -t shows some small-time IPX traffic

running ncplist s [server] can't seem to find anything.  My ipx network
is functioning, a netware client on the same link shows servers fine,
and netware servers show this netnumber showing up.

The IPX networks are linked via Cisco equipment and a Win98 client
running Client 32 v3.21 works just dandy, so I know I have reliable IPX
routing taking place.

Some questions:  What frame type does Freebsd support and can it be set?
The README from netipx says its Ethernet_II, I've rotated through all
the frame types (802.2, 802.3, E_II) on the Cisco's ethernet interface
with no luck.

I'd love to RTFM if someone will show me where the FM is.  The manpages
are sparse on getting the networking part up.  I'd even write a FAQ
entry if I could get it working.

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Hello, I'm running a stock 3.4-RELEASE mail server with built in sendmail
version 8.9.3.  /etc/sendmail.cf is the one that comes by default. We
provide virtual host service (no problems there), as well as secondary MX
for those clients who run their own dedicated mail server.

Name server set up is typical (here we are the isp, us.dom):
client.dom	IN	MX 10 mail.client.dom.
		IN	MX 20 mail.us.dom.

Sending straight to mail.client.dom works, and mail sent from us.dom to
them through mail.us.dom works since we are local.

Now here's the problem.  Mail sent to mail.us.dom with receipt to
user@client.dom from anywhere else will get bounced (If their server is
down, or telnetting to mail.us.dom 25, etc.)

From /var/log/maillog (slightly modified):
May 13 03:46:21 mail sendmail[5874]: YXS72024: ruleset=check_rcpt,
arg1=, relay=host.outside.dom
[xx.yy.zz.ww], reject=550 ... Relaying denied

I've verified this by running sendmail -bt and running check_rcpt
manually with different .D{client_addr} and .D{client_name} settings.

I can work around this problem by explicitly setting client.dom in class
R, /etc/mail/relay-domains, thus making it local.  But what I don't
understand is why I have to do this when FreeBSD's sendmail configuration
has:
#####  @(#)relay_based_on_MX.m4 8.7 (Berkeley) 5/19/1998  #####

As I understand matters after hours of going through sendmail.org,
shouldn't this automatically check to see if mail.us.dom is a MX for
client.dom and accept the message?  Does anyone have any idea what I'm
missing or misunderstanding?  I have searched the sendmail faq/site, and
deja.com, but I can't find anything addressing this problem in relation to
having FEATURE(relay_based_on_MX) enabled.

Other lines which may relate to the matter, to show I have them...
Please let me know if someone needs the whole file, or other
information (but remember this file is unmodified).  Thanks for any
insight.

# MX map (to allow relaying to hosts that we MX for)
Kmxserved bestmx -z: -T

From the check_rcpt section (never did get around to reading the bat book,
so i'm pretty lost when it comes to the rule sets).
 
# allow relaying for hosts which we MX serve
R$+ < @ $* >            $: < : $(mxserved $2 $) : > $1 < @ $2 >
R< : $*  : > $*   $#error $@ 4.7.1 $: "450 Can not check MX records
for recipient host " $1
R<$* : $=w . : $*> $*   $@ OK
R< : $* : > $*          $: $2

I guess this is where it falls apart, but with the MX lookups, this
shouldn't happen?

# anything else is bogus
R$*                     $#error $@ 5.7.1 $: "550 Relaying denied"



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    I am trying to configure my NIC. I have tried manualy altering the
network settings y using ifconfig,
and I have also tried to use sysinstall...both ways I have met with failure.

On startup my kernel gives me this:

dc0  port ...irq 12
dc0 ethernet address ...
dc0 MII without any PHY <------------what is this and is it significant?
device_probe_and_attach:dc0
        attach returned 6

the device "dc0" is not present in my dev dir, neither is ed0 or anything
else that looks similar to a NIC...Why?
when I use ifconfig dc0 ...it says device isn't found...why?
when I try to run /stand/sysinstall it refuses to run...why?

thanks for the info
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Hello,
 Quick question, , but will Lilo boot freebsd?  I know in Yast, the
only choices are Linux, Dos/Win, OS/2.  Is that the end of the road?.  Will I
need to get a commercial boot manager to boot freebsd on a second disk, second
partition?  (wd2s2a)  At this point I'm not sure if this is the prob, or disk
geometry, however, I've tried about all combinations to boot freebsd's kernel,
so I'm thinking it's lilo. Hate to use commercial software if I don't
have to.  BTW, disk1 is all SuSE 6.4 (10G), disk two is 3.5G
Win98, balance is 16G approx. for, at the moment, freebsd. ( wd2s1 & wd2s2a-f. )
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Hi folks..

THe problem was sovled by turning PNP OS to OFF in the BIOS.
Thanks,
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From: Ben Smithurst 
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Victor Vaile wrote:

> Is there currently any program comparable to (or port for) IRIX's xwsh?

This is a FreeBSD list, you shouldn't expect us all to be IRIX
users/admins too.  If you explained what xwsh was, people might be more
able to help you.

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Hello. I currently have two blocks of IPs to be used on a single machine,
but I can't seem to get the new block working.

I have old IPs a.a.a.2 assigned and a.a.a.3-a.a.a.254 aliased with a.a.a.1
as "defaultrouter" and broadcast IP of a.a.a.255.

I added aliases for the new block b.b.b.2-b.b.b.254, but they don't work.
"ifconfig -a" shows something like the following:

.
.
.
inet a.a.a.x netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast a.a.a.255
.
.
inet b.b.b.y netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast b.b.b.255
.
.
.

Am I missing something, some setting in rc.conf perhaps? Thanks, as this is
my first post, I hope it's technical enough to be here.

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Brennan W Stehling wrote:
> 
> This makes more sense.  I have only been running FreeBSD systems for about
> 2 years now and when I started it seemed like development from 2.2.x to
> 3.x and up was very much geared towards fixing bugs and producing a solid
> system. 

	Then your entire perception of the development process is flawed. The
move to 3.x entailed the aout -> elf move, and numerous pieces were
broken during that process. The major version number bumps happen as a
result of major architectural differences that produce code on one
system that won't run on a previous system. One of the things learned in
the 2.2.8 -> 3.0 move was that it's better to have shorter cycles
between major architectural changes (about a year). There are numerous
reasons for this, but chief among them in my mind is the fact that long
cycles discourage people from adopting the new code. 

> It appears that things have accelerated in the last year.  With a
> longer term view it may look different.

	Your perception about this (to a certain extent) is correct. See above. 

> With Linux, they have moved slowly with version numbers and have added a
> few features here and there.  (I do not follow that closely)  So that
> seemed to be more conservative.

	Version numbers are nothing but marketing for the most part. Linux
development is significantly more "bleeding edge" then freebsd's, and
always has been. 

> And when I tried 4.0 STABLE I had major problems which encouraged me to
> run back to 3.4 STABLE where I feel STABLE.  Perhaps it was the upgrade
> routine that was flawed and not the system and the kernel.  I would have
> to wipe my system and start with a nice 4.0 cdrom, but I think I will wait
> for a 4.1R cd before I do that.

	Your problems were caused solely because you ignored the advice of many
capable and knowledgeable people to not attempt a source upgrade. There
are a lot of people for whom the best path is to back up their data,
wipe the disk and install the new system. There is nothing wrong with
that. 

> > On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 03:10:32AM -0500, Brennan W Stehling wrote:
> > > I did not mean to start anything.  It just seems to be getting ahead of
> > > the game developing 5.0 when there is no 4.1 or 4.2 yet.  I realize it is
> > > a development version, but the fundamental reasons are not documented in
> > > anything I have read.

	I feel the need to repeat here that once a new branch goes -Stable
(like 4.0 did recently) a development branch is immediately (or close
too) split off so that new work can begin again that may or may not be
compatible with the work in the previous branch. The older branches then
go into "maintenance" mode, so there will be very little if any new
functionality added to the 3.x branch. 

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I have a "SmartLink" ethernet card, which is made
by Archtek.

The card claims to be a `register compatible' NE2000
card, and comes with NT, Netware, and surprisingly,
Linux drivers.

The card is recognized by the following entry 
in pccard.conf:

# SmartLink (Archtek Fast Ethernet Adapter)
card "PCMCIA" "FastEthernet"
	config auto "ed0" any
	insert logger -s SmartLink inserted
	insert /etc/pccard_ether $device
	remove logger -s SmartLink removed
	remove /etc/pccard_ether_remove $device

When the card is inserted, I get the message:

  pccardd[53]: Card "PCMCIA"("FastEthernet") [V] {1.0] matched "PCMCIA" ("FastEthernet") [(null)] [(null)]
 /kernel: card0: assign ed0 iobase 0x300 irq 9
 /kernel: ed0: address: 01:02:00:ff:15:1d, type NE2000 (16 bit)


Which all appears fine - however, I can't get any packets to
go through the network (a different ether card works fine, so
this is not a network issue.)

Has anyone seen one of these ethernet PCMCIA cards before?  If so,
would you happen to have a pccard.conf configuration?  [I notice
several of the "ed0" entries have extra flags of which I'm
not aware.]

There doesn't appear to be an entry in the pccard.conf.

The card has very little in the way of distinguishing numbers,
etc... the manufacturer is Archtek, it's call the SmartLink 10/100.

This is FreeBSD V3.4 with PAO for 3.4

 Thanks in advance!
	
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> Your problems were caused solely because you ignored the advice of many
>capable and knowledgeable people to not attempt a source upgrade. There
>are a lot of people for whom the best path is to back up their data,
>wipe the disk and install the new system. There is nothing wrong with
>that.

As a side note, I want to say that I *like* the 3.4 -> 4.0 source upgrade
procedure...

My computer is one of the earlier Pentiums with the broken-IDE controller
problem that the new ATA driver chokes on. With the new procedure of make
buildworld / mknod make install / modules make install / kernel build &
install, I was able to find this problem without destroying my ability to
continue operating with a 3.4-STABLE kernel (since the world hadn't actually
been installed yet...). All I had to do was change /etc/fstab entries back
to 'wd*' instead of 'ad*'.

I quickly mail-ordered a Promise Ultra33 controller card, installed it when
it got here, and now my system is happily at 4.0-STABLE.

Even with this (minor) glitch, this upgrade was far less painless than the
2.2.8 -> 3.0 one. If I'd had newer hardware, this upgrade would have been no
more difficult than a typical 'make world'.

--Dan

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Oops - I neglected to provide the dumpcis output.

Here it is (again, from FreeBSD/PAO 3.4):

Configuration data for card in slot 0
Tuple #1, code = 0x1 (Common memory descriptor), length = 2
    000:  00 ff
	Common memory device information:
		Device number 1, type No device, WPS = OFF
		Speed = No speed, Memory block size = reserved, 32 units
Tuple #2, code = 0x15 (Version 1 info), length = 29
    000:  04 01 50 43 4d 43 49 41 00 46 61 73 74 45 74 68
    010:  65 72 6e 65 74 00 56 00 31 2e 30 00 ff
	Version = 4.1, Manuf = [PCMCIA], card vers = [FastEthernet]
	Addit. info = [V],[1.0]
Tuple #3, code = 0x20 (Manufacturer ID), length = 4
    000:  1b 02 02 02
	PCMCIA ID = 0x21b, OEM ID = 0x202
Tuple #4, code = 0x1a (Configuration map), length = 5
    000:  01 01 c0 03 63
	Reg len = 2, config register addr = 0x3c0, last config = 0x1
	Registers: XX---XX- 
Tuple #5, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 11
    000:  c7 81 19 07 55 4d 5d 65 30 ff ff
	Config index = 0x7(default)
	Interface byte = 0x81 (I/O)  wait signal supported
	Vcc pwr:
		Nominal operating supply voltage: 5 x 1V
		Minimum operating supply voltage: 4.5 x 1V
		Maximum operating supply voltage: 5.5 x 1V
	Card decodes 5 address lines, full 8/16 Bit I/O
		IRQ modes: Level
		IRQs:  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
Tuple #6, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 7
    000:  07 08 ca 60 00 03 1f
	Config index = 0x7
	Card decodes 10 address lines, limited 8/16 Bit I/O
		I/O address # 1: block start = 0x300 block length = 0x20
Tuple #7, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 7
    000:  07 08 ca 60 20 03 1f
	Config index = 0x7
	Card decodes 10 address lines, limited 8/16 Bit I/O
		I/O address # 1: block start = 0x320 block length = 0x20
Tuple #8, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 7
    000:  07 08 ca 60 40 03 1f
	Config index = 0x7
	Card decodes 10 address lines, limited 8/16 Bit I/O
		I/O address # 1: block start = 0x340 block length = 0x20
Tuple #9, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 7
    000:  07 08 ca 60 60 03 1f
	Config index = 0x7
	Card decodes 10 address lines, limited 8/16 Bit I/O
		I/O address # 1: block start = 0x360 block length = 0x20
Tuple #10, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 7
    000:  07 08 ca 60 00 02 1f
	Config index = 0x7
	Card decodes 10 address lines, limited 8/16 Bit I/O
		I/O address # 1: block start = 0x200 block length = 0x20
Tuple #11, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 7
    000:  07 08 ca 60 20 02 1f
	Config index = 0x7
	Card decodes 10 address lines, limited 8/16 Bit I/O
		I/O address # 1: block start = 0x220 block length = 0x20
Tuple #12, code = 0x21 (Functional ID), length = 2
    000:  06 00
	Network/LAN adapter
Tuple #13, code = 0x14 (No link), length = 0
Tuple #14, code = 0xff (Terminator), length = 0
2 slots found


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> On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 04:31:03PM +0000, Kiril Mitev wrote:
> > this on a more-or-less brand new install of f-bsd 4.o release 
> > 
> > after I finished the install, i logged-on as root and created a user account
> > 
> > after that i tried to set the account's password
> > 
> > passwd USER
> > 
> > 
> > that command hangs for about10-15 minutes before coming up with the next 
> > prompt....
> > 
> > what IS it looking for and can I disable that , please ??
> 
> Do you have NIS turned on?
> -- 
> Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@home.com
> 

Good question .. why would it be turned on by the default install ????

Will check anyway, thanks



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Dan O'Connor wrote:
> 
> > Your problems were caused solely because you ignored the advice of many
> >capable and knowledgeable people to not attempt a source upgrade. There
> >are a lot of people for whom the best path is to back up their data,
> >wipe the disk and install the new system. There is nothing wrong with
> >that.
> 
> As a side note, I want to say that I *like* the 3.4 -> 4.0 source upgrade
> procedure...

I got bit by that but the UPGRADING message has change since then. I
ended up doing a clean install. My system needed the rebuild.
Lightning struck twice because my back up dat tape failed about 1/3 of
the way into the backup. I had copies of almost everything. I knew
there were a few fixes to be had at 4.0 stable and quickly upgraded
from 4.0-R to 4.0-S. 

I could have made the source upgrade work now. Someone else got to the
same exact point I did and with a few commets he was able to make it
work. I like 4.0. Doing almost anything is easier. I have since
converted two of my Windows 2000 machines to include FreeBSD on the
boot. Both of them are running FreeBSD right now. NFS_sharing is
installed on all of my machines including my W2K Server. I can't bring
myself to installing Samba. I can make my W2K machines access and
share to Unix and can't imagine making my Unix machines act like a
windows machine for sharing.

I tried adding Linux but it won't work my way. It would have been ok
if I only had one partition but I have a primary and an extended on
every drive that was available. The slice concept of FreeBSD was
vastly superior at this point. I could slice a big chunk of disk and
then partition that like I wanted. That wasn't available on Linux. I
still want Linux on a system for a side by side install but the system
will have to be configured for that purpose from scratch.

The only problem I have on one system is a AHA-1520 scsi adapter. It
has my zip drive on it. I don't miss it. The kernel probes forever at
boot. Forever is that length of time I allow before I reboot to the
/kernel.old :). I know the I/O port, IRQ, but I haven't figured out
how to supply the memory address. It hasn't been too important because
I can always boot Win98 to use the scanner on that system.

Kent

> 
> My computer is one of the earlier Pentiums with the broken-IDE controller
> problem that the new ATA driver chokes on. With the new procedure of make
> buildworld / mknod make install / modules make install / kernel build &
> install, I was able to find this problem without destroying my ability to
> continue operating with a 3.4-STABLE kernel (since the world hadn't actually
> been installed yet...). All I had to do was change /etc/fstab entries back
> to 'wd*' instead of 'ad*'.
> 
> I quickly mail-ordered a Promise Ultra33 controller card, installed it when
> it got here, and now my system is happily at 4.0-STABLE.
> 
> Even with this (minor) glitch, this upgrade was far less painless than the
> 2.2.8 -> 3.0 one. If I'd had newer hardware, this upgrade would have been no
> more difficult than a typical 'make world'.
> 
> --Dan
> 
> --
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> http://www.mostgraveconcern.com
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> At 02:16 14-05-2000 +0530, Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
> >Communism is about state control and restricting individual freedom --
> >originally in economic matters, like manufacturing and so on, but
> >in practice in everything including speech and expression. The theory
> >is that individuals are selfish so the state has to tell them what to
> >do.
>
> Rahul,
>
> You have some theoretical ideas about Communism, but clearly no direct
> experience. We have no common ground for any further discussion.
>
> Adam


Communism is a set of "suggestions" (if you will) for running a state.
So, in essence, Communism is just exactly that, a theory.

What you have described in practice is not Communism, but a totalitarian
government based on Communism.

sheesh.

Besides, communism and FSF are *not* the same things, or even the same
topic.

At most, FSF could be considered corporate, not governmental.

Dan




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Hiya


Since I upgraded my 3.4-RELEASE to 4.0-RELEASE, I've had some problems
starting X.
When I type 'startx' or 'xinit' I get the error

AUthentication failed - cannot start X server
Perhaps you do not have console ownership?

As root I get

Xwrapper: no modules loaded for 'xserver' service.

The only way I can start X is by typing 'X' as root, then running an
xterm via my user account.

ANy idea what the problem is?


C-YA
Jon




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Hi,

I have an ISA Ensoniq SoundScape card that used to work with snd, sscape
drivers.

im using the new pcm driver, and when i try to play any sounds through
/dev/dsp i get this: (and no sound)

May 13 22:58:34 blak /kernel: AD_WAIT_INIT FAILED 1000 0x80
May 13 22:58:34 blak /kernel: AD_WAIT_INIT FAILED 1000 0x80
May 13 22:58:34 blak /kernel: mss: Auto calibration timed out(1).
May 13 22:58:34 blak /kernel: AD_WAIT_INIT FAILED 201 0x80
May 13 22:58:34 blak last message repeated 10 times
May 13 22:58:35 blak /kernel: AD_WAIT_INIT FAILED 1000 0x80
May 13 22:58:35 blak /kernel: AD_WAIT_INIT FAILED 1000 0x80
May 13 22:58:35 blak /kernel: mss: Auto calibration timed out(1).
May 13 22:58:35 blak /kernel: AD_WAIT_INIT FAILED 201 0x80

more info:
{root@blak 3:58pm} /tmp# cat /dev/sndstat
FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) May  9 2000 00:43:39
Installed devices:
pcm0:  at io 0x530 irq 5 drq 1:5 (1p/1r channels duplex)

i've rm'd and remade all the dsp devices in /dev.

any ideas? could my line be wrong in my kernel config file?
device pcm0 at isa? port? irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15                                


thanks for any suggestions,
keith



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> 
> I don't have the mozilla-fonts folder in my 3.4R version.
> All I have is mozilla.
> 
	Install cvsup from the ports collection, and set up your cvsupfile
   to extract the RELENG_3 collection, with the exception of the ports.
   Set the ports to extract from the -current collecton (tag=.)

	Run cvsup, and now you will have the mozilla-fonts entry in the
   ports collection.

	I followed the appropriate instructions, and I didn't like the
   results, they were too "toy-like". So, I went back to the default
   Netscape fonts (Adobe both), but sites like microsoft.com are now
   rendered "correctly" :-) with the inclusion of the mozilla fonts in
   the X11's font path. Ebay is a combination of the old and the new,
   Adobe is like Microsoft - sorta "child like", but a vast improvement
   over the fuzzy hard to read tiny font it was before the mozilla-font
   additions.

							Bruce


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On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 04:17:15PM +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm currently messing around with ipfw but I can't reach
> anything useful at the moment.  May anyone point me to some nice
> documentations, tutorials, FAQs and such stuff (I've read the ipfw
> manpage and The Complete FreeBSD, thanks Greg, helped me a lot, but
> not here...)?

I have lagged a bit behind from the handbook, and I don't know if some section
on ipfw is included in there by now.  However, you can find a couple of useful
pages on ipfw usage at my home page.  See the references [1], [2] and [3] for
this.

> Or is there even a console or webbased administration tool
> available?

This, I do not know to answer.

> In the past I found it quite handy to have a automatically generated
> config that is working as base so you can see what you did wrong and
> do it by hand next time...

For this I always found /etc/rc.firewall a really nice starting point.  Read
the rules *and* the comments in there.  Try to copy those rules that you want
to test in, i.e. `/etc/ipfw.conf' and use in your rc.conf the option:

	firewall_type="/etc/ipfw.conf"

Start with a basically simple firewall, after you read the references below,
and decide on either an `open' or a `closed' type of firewall.  Add
rules as you find out that you need them, latter on.

--> Note: the references outside those of my home page can be found at
    www.freebsddiary.org, along with lots of other good articles on FreeBSD
    usage.  Keep this site bookmarked, you'll probably find some use for it
    again for some other topic :)

Oh, and if that is not a problem with you, please avoid posting twice the same
message, on the same list.

Ciao,
Giorgos Keramidas.


References
**********

[1] http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~keramida/freebsd/ipfw.html
	"An open firewall with ipfw"

[2] http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~keramida/freebsd/ipfw-closed.html
	"A closed firewall for FreeBSD with ipfw(8)"

[3] http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~keramida/freebsd/ipfw-groups.html
	"Building your own rule-groups with ipfw on FreeBSD"

[4] http://www.freebsddiary.org/firewallconvert.html
	"Firewall rules - converting from IP Filter to natd/ipfw"

[5] http://www.freebsddiary.org/firewall.html
	"Firewalls / ipfw - protect your subnet"

[6] http://www.freebsddiary.org/firewall2.html
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From: james 
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I don't know how to get that one working, but maybe this could help;

/usr/ports/sysutils/idled

regards

james


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On Sat, 13 May 2000, Andy Coates wrote:

> Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 16:04:30 +0100
> From: Andy Coates 
> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Idle Logout, how..
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Was checking my login.conf the other day and decided to play with the
> 'idletime' setting.  I set it to 30 and left myself logged in for 30
> minutes, but nothing happended - and I thought it would log me out from
> this.
> 
> I added it to the 'default' section so I presume my username was covered. So
> what silly thing have I forgot to do or miss out to make it work?
> 
> Thanks,
> Andy.
> 
> 
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Once you're in single user mode:

fsck -p
mount -u /

That should do it (works for me)

Cheers,
Marc

On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 02:47:30PM -0400, Nathaniel G H wrote:
> Hi folks, please help or point me at the correct literature:
> 
> After using Linux for some time, I recently installed FreeBSD
> (3.3-release) on a new IDE drive configured as primary
> master.  After doing this, I had to install another IDE drive
> in the same machine and for various reasons, it has to be
> primary master.  The FreeBSD drive is now primary slave.
> 
> As expected, FreeBSD drop me into single-user mode on boot,
> because the fstab entries are now incorrect.  I need to modify
> fstab but can't because the filesystem is mounted read-only!
> 
> I need to change the FreeBSD drive back to primary master,
> boot normally, modify fstab, then change the drives back.  Does
> anything need to be modified besides fstab?
> 
> Please help me or point me in the right direction.  (I've
> already read the printed book and spent countless hours reading
> the website.)
> 
> Thank you kindly,
> Nathaniel G H


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On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 02:35:34PM -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
> Alright, this is how it works. 3.x-STABLE is STILL the only TRUELY Stable
> tree. the x.0 releases are meant to be releases which iron some stuff out,
> and when the x.1 release comes out, that is when the tree becomes -STABLE. 
> 
 
PLEASE stop spreading this rumour about 4.0 not being ready for true
use. As has been said by both committers and non-committers, 4.0-RELEASE
is nothing at all like 3.0-RELEASE, and it is ready for use.

Also, if you read cvs-all, you would notice that the majority of changes
get MFC'd ONLY to 4-STABLE; although there are certainly still commits to
RELENG_3, it's not the "actively developed" -STABLE branch anymore.

> 
> -Stable progresses along with bugfixes and minor added features from
> -CURRENT, and every so often a -RELEASE is taken as a snapshot from
> -STABLE and given a new version number. -Current takes on the next major
> revision number, but usually doesn't come out for a year to a year and a
> half. 
> 

 Nod. Just because there is a 5.0-CURRENT doesn't mean that there isn't
going to be at least a 4.1-RELEASE and a 4.2-RELEASE.

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What flags are you giving to GCC? If you're one of those people who gives
10,000 optimization options when compiling your code, this is probably the
problem. If you are doing lots of optimizations, try and compile your
program with -O (and whatever -Woptions you use), and see if that solves
the problem.

Eric

On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 02:44:19PM -0400, Ken Seggerman wrote:
> Greetings:
> 
> I am running FreeBSD 3.3 RELEASE on a brand new Intel Celeron 500 mhz
> PC, as well on a much older Pentium 133 mhz PC.
> 
> When compiling and running a mathematically intensive program in C on
> the Celeron 500 using both the gcc 2.7.2.3 that came with Release 3.3,
> and with the gcc 2.95.2 that I installed, I consistently get wrong
> results (I am #including  and linking in the math library with
> -lm).
> 
> Compiling the same code in -verbose mode on the old 133 Pentium gives
> identical (except for the names of the temporary files in /var/tmp)
> verbose output to stderr, and when the binary is run it gives correct
> results.
> 
> Compiling and running the same code on the three remote multi-user
> machines (two SPARCS and a PC running Solaris) under various releases
> of gcc where I have shell access and compilation privileges, yields
> correct results.
> 
> Booting the Celeron 500 under Windows NT and compiling and running the
> code with a commercial (MSVC 6.0) compiler gives me correct results.
> 
> Running a program of a similar nature (xephem 4.28) pre-compiled as a
> package for FreeBSD 3.1 on the two machines gives me identical (and
> correct) results.
> 
> Is this a gcc problem, or a FreeBSD 3.3 problem?
> 
> Is there anything I can do about it?
> 
> Is it fixed in FreeBSD 4.0 Release?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ken Seggerman
> 
> ken_seggerman@suleyman.com
> 
> 
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Hey.

	I've got a Soundblaster AWE64 PNP. I was using the Voxware drivers
under 3.4-STABLE, and it worked perfectly. Using essentially the same
drivers in essentially the same configuration on the same computer the
sound card has stopped working. Nothing can open /dev/dsp, and 'cat
/dev/sndstat' reports 'Device not configured'. I have used MAKEDEV to
create the appropriate devices. 

Dmesg snippet:
sb_reset_dsp failed
sb_reset_dsp failed
awe0 at port 0x620 on isa0
AWE32: not detected
awe0: driver is using old-style compatability shims


'uname -a':
FreeBSD spike.brainlink.com 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Sun May  7
18:50:58 EDT 2000     root@spike.brainlink.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ZALEM4
i386

The relevant parts of the kernel configuration:
device		snd
device sb0	at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1
device sbxvi0	at isa? drq 5
device sbmidi0	at isa? port 0x330
device awe0	at isa? port 0x620
device opl0	at isa? port 0x388

	I've tried:
	
	1. The above with and without 'options PNPBIOS'.
	2. Enabling only 'device pcm', with and without explicit
irq/drq/port settings.
	3. Enabling 'device pcm' and 'device sbc0'

	I'm stumped. Can anyone tell me what's causing the 'sb_reset_dsp
failed' messages and which drivers I should be using? Is Voxware
deprecated in favor of pcm? Have other people had similar problems with
these cards? I have attached my full kernel config file, and I'm not
subscribed to -questions so please cc: directly to me. Thank you. 

-- 


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#ZALEM4 config file.

machine		i386
cpu		I686_CPU
ident		ZALEM
maxusers	256


options SOFTUPDATES
options IPFIREWALL
options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE

options PNPBIOS

options 	INET			#InterNETworking
options 	FFS			#Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options 	FFS_ROOT		#FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
options 	MFS			#Memory Filesystem
options 	MD_ROOT			#MD is a potential root device
options 	MSDOSFS			#MSDOS Filesystem
options 	CD9660			#ISO 9660 Filesystem
options 	PROCFS			#Process filesystem
options 	COMPAT_43		#Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
options 	SCSI_DELAY=15000	#Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
options 	UCONSOLE		#Allow users to grab the console
options 	USERCONFIG		#boot -c editor
options 	VISUAL_USERCONFIG	#visual boot -c editor
options 	KTRACE			#ktrace(1) support
options 	SYSVSHM			#SYSV-style shared memory
options 	SYSVMSG			#SYSV-style message queues
options 	SYSVSEM			#SYSV-style semaphores
options 	P1003_1B		#Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
options 	_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
options		ICMP_BANDLIM		#Rate limit bad replies

device		isa
device		eisa
device		pci

# Floppy drives
device		fdc0	at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
device		fd0	at fdc0 drive 0

device		ahc		# AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices


# SCSI peripherals
device		scbus		# SCSI bus (required)
device		da		# Direct Access (disks)
device		cd		# CD
device		pass		# Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)

#IDE.
device	ata0	at isa?	port IO_WD1 irq 14
device  ata
device 	atadisk


# atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
device		atkbdc0	at isa? port IO_KBD
device		atkbd0	at atkbdc? irq 1
device		psm0	at atkbdc? irq 12

device		vga0	at isa?

# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
device		sc0	at isa?

# Floating point support - do not disable.
device		npx0	at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13

# Serial (COM) ports
device		sio0	at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
device		sio1	at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3

# Parallel port
device		ppc0	at isa? irq 7
device		ppbus		# Parallel port bus (required)
device		lpt		# Printer
device		ppi		# Parallel port interface device

device		miibus		# MII bus support
device		dc		# DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes

#Sound #
device		snd
device sb0	at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1
device sbxvi0	at isa? drq 5
device sbmidi0	at isa? port 0x330
device awe0	at isa? port 0x620
device opl0	at isa? port 0x388

#device		pcm0 at isa? irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x0
#device		pcm
#device		sbc0	at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15

# Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated.
pseudo-device	loop		# Network loopback
pseudo-device	ether		# Ethernet support
pseudo-device	tun		# Packet tunnel.
pseudo-device	pty		# Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
pseudo-device	md		# Memory "disks"
pseudo-device	gif	4	# IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
pseudo-device	faith	1	# IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)

# The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
# Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
pseudo-device	bpf		#Berkeley packet filter




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I have a new IDE drive which I want to put into my computer, which is
running FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE.  I attempted this a while back and made
horrible mistakes.  Now I want to make sure I do it right.

I already have 1 SCSI drive and 1 IDE.  The SCSI is the primary and is the
disk with the OS on it.  Alone, it can boot off the SCSI.

So what should I do?  I get the drive connected, boot it up and start the
configuration of this new drive.  Then, should I use /stand/sysinstall to
configure the new drive?  Should I simply use a command-line tool?

And most importantly, how can I do it so that I do not change the boot
blocks so that it will boot to the SCSI drive after I have done all of
this?  With /stand/sysinstall I messed up previously and had to start over
with a new install.

(I am still learning the ropes here)

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On Sun, May 14, 2000 at 12:04:34AM +0000, Jonathan Belson wrote:
> Hiya
> 
> 
> Since I upgraded my 3.4-RELEASE to 4.0-RELEASE, I've had some problems
> starting X.
> When I type 'startx' or 'xinit' I get the error
> 
> AUthentication failed - cannot start X server
> Perhaps you do not have console ownership?
> 
> As root I get
> 
> Xwrapper: no modules loaded for 'xserver' service.
> 
> The only way I can start X is by typing 'X' as root, then running an
> xterm via my user account.
> 
> ANy idea what the problem is?

Did you rebuild X at some point? Did you build X with PAM support?
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On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 01:30:15PM -0700, Khairuddin Abdul Ghani wrote:
> Hello. I currently have two blocks of IPs to be used on a single machine,
> but I can't seem to get the new block working.
> 
> I have old IPs a.a.a.2 assigned and a.a.a.3-a.a.a.254 aliased with a.a.a.1
> as "defaultrouter" and broadcast IP of a.a.a.255.
> 
> I added aliases for the new block b.b.b.2-b.b.b.254, but they don't work.
> "ifconfig -a" shows something like the following:
> 
> .
> .
> .
> inet a.a.a.x netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast a.a.a.255
> .
> .
> inet b.b.b.y netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast b.b.b.255
> .
> .
> .
> 
> Am I missing something, some setting in rc.conf perhaps? Thanks, as this is
> my first post, I hope it's technical enough to be here.

Well... From the decimated ifconfig(8) output, it looks like both
a.a.a.x and b.b.b.y are there. Could you maybe tell us what is not
working?
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Eric:

Thanks for your reply:

I have been using -v -Wall -O and -I to include a local header file.


Ken Seggerman
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On Sat, 13 May 2000, Eric Ogren wrote:

> What flags are you giving to GCC? If you're one of those people who gives
> 10,000 optimization options when compiling your code, this is probably the
> problem. If you are doing lots of optimizations, try and compile your
> program with -O (and whatever -Woptions you use), and see if that solves
> the problem.
> 
> Eric
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Hmm. Well, since you're not using funky optimization options, we've now
gone beyond my (very limited) compiler expertise. Hopefully, one of the
GCC gurus will have an idea.

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On Saturday, 13 May 2000 at  0:51:54 -0500, gh wrote:
>
>
>> On Friday, 12 May 2000 at 23:32:12 +0200, Francesco Casadei wrote:
>>> Why the DEL key deletes the character before the cursor (just like
>>> BackSpace) instead of deleting the character after the cursor?
>>
>> Because that's its purpose.
>>
>>> Only in Netscape Navigator's location bar DEL deletes the characters
>>> to the right of the cursor.
>>
>> I consider this incorrect.
>
> Would you mind pointing me toward some explanation of why that behavior is
> considered incorrect?
> To me, it seems logical.
>
> Backspace -> back...space.
> Delete -> why have another backspace?

Delete was there first, on the ASR33/35.  Backspace didn't make it
until the mid-70s.  And, indeed, we said "why have another
backspace?".

> Is there some historical explanation? Is it just a "geeky-hacker"
> thing?

Well, there are a few things:

1.  As mentioned, the original Teletypes used in just about all
    machines of the late 60s/early 70s had a DEL button but no
    BS/Backspace button.  All the software I know of used DEL to
    delete the previous character.  It had the additional advantage of
    being able to overwrite the character after it had been punched on
    tape: DEL is all bits set, and the paper tape reader just ignored
    this particular sequence.

    At this time, of course, there was no concept of a cursor or a
    following character, so we only needed one character.

2.  After video terminals arrived, nothing much changed.  Most editors
    and command line editing schemes were the same as before.
    Gradually, though, people started using ctrl-H as the erase
    character, because that's what ANSI decreed.  The result was what
    we have today: two characters for the same function.

3.  Independently, real full-screen text editors started to appear.
    vi decided that control characters were Evil, so it used normal
    characters.  Emacs decided that modes were Evil, so it used all
    control characters for some purpose.  It decided on ctrl-d for the
    delete forward key.  It also decided on DEL for the delete
    backward key and ctrl-h for the Help key, a problem that we still
    have today.

    Later, shells appeared with command line editing.  With the
    exception of csh's remarkably primitive editing, they all followed
    either vi or Emacs.

4.  Meanwhile, in Washington State, a company reinvented everything
    and used completely different characters from what other people
    were using.  That's their choice, of course, but it doesn't mean
    anybody else is going to follow them, especially when most of
    their choices appear to be suboptimal.

Greg
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On Sat, 13 May 2000, Chris wrote:

> I am using a freebsd box as a gateway to connect to internet.  It is
> running natd.  I find in the /var/log/messages that "natd[13276]: failed
> to write packet back (Permission denied)" quite often.  I try to enable
> the log of natd, but nothing special here.  I also check my firewall log
> but nothing is denied.  Any clues?

Your firewall is blocking the packet.  If you are not seeing anything
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Greg Lehey said on May 14, 2000 at 11:03:02:
> On Saturday, 13 May 2000 at  0:51:54 -0500, gh wrote:
> 
> 4.  Meanwhile, in Washington State, a company reinvented everything
>     and used completely different characters from what other people
>     were using.  That's their choice, of course, but it doesn't mean
>     anybody else is going to follow them, especially when most of
>     their choices appear to be suboptimal.

I sympathise with that point of view, but I don't see that in this
case their choice is worse than the original one.  These days it's 
become standard, even on commercial unix machines.  If there's a
good intrinsic reason to retain the old choice of del, that's
different, but it doesn't look like there's anything "incorrect"
and it would make it easier for new users to follow the common
current standards -- especially as FreeBSD mostly runs on modern
machines with both a del key and a backspace key on its keyboards.
It doesn't mean that one should imitate everything else that the
above company does, of course...

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On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 08:29:18PM +0800, Chris wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am using a freebsd box as a gateway to connect to internet.  It is
> running natd.  I find in the /var/log/messages that "natd[13276]:
> failed to write packet back (Permission denied)" quite often.  I try
> to enable the log of natd, but nothing special here.  I also check my
> firewall log but nothing is denied.  Any clues?
>
> The box is running 4.0-stable cvsup'ed month ago.

I believe there is some discussion of this error in the mail archives so
you may want to check there.

You do not say what type of firewall you are running, "OPEN, CLIENT,
SIMPLE" as defined in /etc/rc.conf so it could be any number of
things. You could run natd in verbose mode and watch the output so you
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I can't give you a proper answer but www.linux rg can give you a proper answer

There is a exact howto in www.linux.org
Click on the support hyperlink then click on the miniHOWTO hyperlink. This
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> geometry, however, I've tried about all combinations to boot freebsd's kernel,
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On Sunday, 14 May 2000 at  7:55:25 +0530, Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
> Greg Lehey said on May 14, 2000 at 11:03:02:
>> On Saturday, 13 May 2000 at  0:51:54 -0500, gh wrote:
>>
>> 4.  Meanwhile, in Washington State, a company reinvented everything
>>     and used completely different characters from what other people
>>     were using.  That's their choice, of course, but it doesn't mean
>>     anybody else is going to follow them, especially when most of
>>     their choices appear to be suboptimal.
>
> I sympathise with that point of view, but I don't see that in this
> case their choice is worse than the original one.

I didn't say that.

> These days it's become standard, even on commercial unix machines.

I haven't seen any UNIX machine which has adopted that.  What are you
referring to?

> If there's a good intrinsic reason to retain the old choice of del,
> that's different, but it doesn't look like there's anything
> "incorrect" and it would make it easier for new users to follow the
> common current standards -- especially as FreeBSD mostly runs on
> modern machines with both a del key and a backspace key on its
> keyboards.

Well, you're free to do what you want with software you write.  But
UNIX doesn't have the concept of editing at that level, so it's
difficult to find anywhere to use it.  If you prefer it in, say,
Emacs, there's nothing to stop you changing it.

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Hello,

- Applixware is so good
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Greg Lehey said on May 14, 2000 at 12:54:27:
> On Sunday, 14 May 2000 at  7:55:25 +0530, Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
> > Greg Lehey said on May 14, 2000 at 11:03:02:
> >> On Saturday, 13 May 2000 at  0:51:54 -0500, gh wrote:
> >>
> >> 4.  Meanwhile, in Washington State, a company reinvented everything
> >>     and used completely different characters from what other people
> >>     were using.  That's their choice, of course, but it doesn't mean
> >>     anybody else is going to follow them, especially when most of
> >>     their choices appear to be suboptimal.

-snip-

> > These days it's become standard, even on commercial unix machines.
> 
> I haven't seen any UNIX machine which has adopted that.  What are you
> referring to?

Well, CDE.  I just checked the text editor (dtpad) on Digital Unix and 
AIX.  Also I think that's what the default shell settings are.

> Well, you're free to do what you want with software you write.  But
> UNIX doesn't have the concept of editing at that level, so it's
> difficult to find anywhere to use it.  If you prefer it in, say,
> Emacs, there's nothing to stop you changing it.

True.  But the keymap settings on the console, for instance, could be
set up that way.  They could also bind the alt keys in a more usual
way, so that (for instance) alt-p works for history searching in tcsh.

Rahul. 


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Whenever I use ` shutdown now ` to drop into single-user mode,
I get the following error message:

Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: -> I hit Enter

syntax error: Bad substitution

I hit ^D and all files are re-read w/o the system checks (which is
what I want). How do I get rid of this "syntax" error?

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When I boot FBsd3.3R I get the following:
tun0: too many idle timeout values
tun0: set timeout: failed 1

Actually the stuff scrolls by so fast that I'm not 100% sure of the
exact error/warning message. They don't appear in /var/run/dmesg.boot.
I've looked for it in /var/log/..... and it's not in anything in there either.
Anyway, I'd like to fix it!

ifconfig tun0 looks OK according to the docs I've read. Any ideas?

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Hi,
   A very surprising thing happened when I was installing some packages off 
the FreeBSD 4.0 CD. /stand/sysinstall hiccupped and said something about 
being out of inodes on /var. Thereafter I got the same message whenever I 
tried to install any package.

   Now when I create a file using "vi" or any app tries to write something 
some message usually comes up about being out of inodes (so far messages are 
like PID xxx out of inodes on /var etc), or about there being no space on 
the device (vi gives this message).

    I did a df and this was the output:

Filesystem    1K-blocks     Used     Avail    Capacity     Mounted on
/dev/ad3s1a     49583       24913    20704       55%          /
/dev/ad3s1f    4125061     1305486  2489571      34%         /usr
/dev/ad3s1e     19815       12619    5611        69%         /var
procfs            4           4        0         100%        /proc
                                      ===        ====
    It would seem that the proc filesystem is out of place. But isn't it 
something that keeps info on processes? ALso it's not a partition of it's 
own...how does this work?

    As the output above shows there is plenty of disk space - so what's 
going wrong?

    I also did a fsck manually - there were no inconsistencies. Could 
someone please help me out?

Thanks
Shameek
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Hi,
     I wanted to start up graphical login when the machine boots up. I 
understand that I need to use kdm for this or xdm. I want to use KDE as my 
window mgr on my FreeBSD 4.0 system. I have got it set up correctly so that 
when I type startx it starts up correctly. HOw do I set up kdm?

      I put the complete path to kdm /usr/local/bin/kdm in my /etc/rc file 
and the program crashes with a core being generated. Do I need to call kdm 
with some options or do I need to do some additional stuff to get it to work 
properly?

Thanks
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>       I put the complete path to kdm /usr/local/bin/kdm in my /etc/rc file 
> and the program crashes with a core being generated. Do I need to call kdm 
> with some options or do I need to do some additional stuff to get it to work 
> properly?

Looks like a compilation problem with kdm.  I seem to remember it happened
to me on FreeBSD 3.0 or 3.1 with kde 1.1.x, but not with kde 1.0. 
Try compiling it (kdm alone) without optimisation.  Also see whether
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On Sat, 13 May 2000 21:18:08 PDT  "Shameek Basu" wrote:
 +------------------
 | Hi,
 | 
 |     I did a df and this was the output:
 | 
 | Filesystem    1K-blocks     Used     Avail    Capacity     Mounted on
 | /dev/ad3s1a     49583       24913    20704       55%          /
 | /dev/ad3s1f    4125061     1305486  2489571      34%         /usr
 | /dev/ad3s1e     19815       12619    5611        69%         /var
 | procfs            4           4        0         100%        /proc
 | 
 |     I also did a fsck manually - there were no inconsistencies. Could 
 | someone please help me out?
 +------------------

run df -i, you may find something interesting.

chris

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"Crist J. Clark" wrote:
> 
> On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 10:32:15AM -0700, Jeremy Warner wrote:
> > this is what I get:
> > #ipfw show
> >
> > 00100 105  6310 divert 8668 ip from any to any via fxp0
> > 00100   0     0 allow ip from any to any via lo0
> > 00200   0     0 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8
> > 65000 174 10308 allow ip from any to any
> > 65535   0     0 deny ip from any to any
> >
> > With these settings the gateway can ping the 192.168.1.x network but it can
> > not ping anything on 206.163.165.x (aside form 206.163.165.1)
> > If  I do a ipfw delete 100 then the gateway can ping anything in both
> > directions.
> >

Please send your netstat -rn dump.

From what you say (including your earlier posting), it sounds like
you have a default gateway problem on the 206 side. 

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Hi. At the moment only the a.a.a.x block works, while the b.b.b.y one
doesn't. I'm not sure whether I've done all I need to, but I'm also not sure
whether my ISP transferred total control of the block yet (although they
insist that they have). I guess I'll have to work it out with them.. Thanks!

-- Khairuddin.

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On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 01:30:15PM -0700, Khairuddin Abdul Ghani wrote:
> Hello. I currently have two blocks of IPs to be used on a single machine,
> but I can't seem to get the new block working.
>
> I have old IPs a.a.a.2 assigned and a.a.a.3-a.a.a.254 aliased with a.a.a.1
> as "defaultrouter" and broadcast IP of a.a.a.255.
>
> I added aliases for the new block b.b.b.2-b.b.b.254, but they don't work.
> "ifconfig -a" shows something like the following:
>
> .
> .
> .
> inet a.a.a.x netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast a.a.a.255
> .
> .
> inet b.b.b.y netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast b.b.b.255
> .
> .
> .
>
> Am I missing something, some setting in rc.conf perhaps? Thanks, as this
is
> my first post, I hope it's technical enough to be here.

Well... From the decimated ifconfig(8) output, it looks like both
a.a.a.x and b.b.b.y are there. Could you maybe tell us what is not
working?
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On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 10:06:06PM -0600, Duke Normandin wrote:
> Whenever I use ` shutdown now ` to drop into single-user mode,
> I get the following error message:
> 
> Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: -> I hit Enter
> 
> syntax error: Bad substitution
> 
> I hit ^D and all files are re-read w/o the system checks (which is
> what I want). How do I get rid of this "syntax" error?

Is it something in root's .profile?
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    I am trying to configure my NIC. I have tried manualy altering the
network settings using ifconfig,
and I have also tried to use sysinstall...both ways I have met with failure.

On startup my kernel gives me this:

dc0  port ...irq 12
dc0 ethernet address ...
dc0 MII without any PHY <------------what is this and is it significant?
device_probe_and_attach:dc0
        attach returned 6

the device "dc0" is not present in my dev dir, neither is ed0 or anything
else that looks similar to a NIC...Why?
when I use ifconfig dc0 ...it says device isn't found...why?
when I try to run /stand/sysinstall it refuses to run...why?

thanks for the info
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From: Kenneth Wayne Culver 
To: Eric Ogren 
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	Brennan W Stehling ,
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I'm not spreading a rumor, Jordan did say that the 4.x won't be
"officially" stable until 4.1. It is in the mailing lists. I will concur
however that 4.0 is surprisingly stable for a  x.0 release.


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On Sat, 13 May 2000, Eric Ogren wrote:

> On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 02:35:34PM -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
> > Alright, this is how it works. 3.x-STABLE is STILL the only TRUELY Stable
> > tree. the x.0 releases are meant to be releases which iron some stuff out,
> > and when the x.1 release comes out, that is when the tree becomes -STABLE. 
> > 
>  
> PLEASE stop spreading this rumour about 4.0 not being ready for true
> use. As has been said by both committers and non-committers, 4.0-RELEASE
> is nothing at all like 3.0-RELEASE, and it is ready for use.
> 
> Also, if you read cvs-all, you would notice that the majority of changes
> get MFC'd ONLY to 4-STABLE; although there are certainly still commits to
> RELENG_3, it's not the "actively developed" -STABLE branch anymore.
> 
> > 
> > -Stable progresses along with bugfixes and minor added features from
> > -CURRENT, and every so often a -RELEASE is taken as a snapshot from
> > -STABLE and given a new version number. -Current takes on the next major
> > revision number, but usually doesn't come out for a year to a year and a
> > half. 
> > 
> 
>  Nod. Just because there is a 5.0-CURRENT doesn't mean that there isn't
> going to be at least a 4.1-RELEASE and a 4.2-RELEASE.
> 
> Eric
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On Saturday, 13 May 2000 at 22:15:22 -0700, adam palitz wrote:

> Subject: Maybe I need a more interesting title for an answer? ...or
> just more patience?

A more interesting subject.  For more information, see
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html

>    I am trying to configure my NIC. I have tried manualy altering the
> network settings using ifconfig,
> and I have also tried to use sysinstall...both ways I have met with failure.
>
> On startup my kernel gives me this:
>
> dc0  port ...irq 12
> dc0 ethernet address ...
> dc0 MII without any PHY <------------what is this and is it significant?
> device_probe_and_attach:dc0
>         attach returned 6

Interesting.  I haven't seen this one.  Unfortunately, the people who
know it have probably not bothered to read this message because of the
irrelevant subject line.

> the device "dc0" is not present in my dev dir, neither is ed0 or anything
> else that looks similar to a NIC...Why?
> when I use ifconfig dc0 ...it says device isn't found...why?

The probe failed.

> when I try to run /stand/sysinstall it refuses to run...why?

I'm sure it says why.

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again, I also think 4.0 is very stable, but read the archives around the
time 4.0 was released. Jordan said that it isn't to be considered
"officially" stable until 4.1


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On Sat, 13 May 2000, Dan Nelson wrote:

> In the last episode (May 13), Kenneth Wayne Culver said:
> > Alright, this is how it works. 3.x-STABLE is STILL the only TRUELY
> > Stable tree. the x.0 releases are meant to be releases which iron
> > some stuff out, and when the x.1 release comes out, that is when the
> > tree becomes -STABLE.
> 
> Actually, 4.0 is without a doubt FreeBSD's most stable point-0 release
> ever, and probably (definitely, wrt NFS) more stable than 3.4.  I've
> been running 4.* on 4 production machines at work and have had only one
> crash in the last 6 months between them.
> 
> As for the "sudden" jump to 5.0 for -current, the decision was made when
> 3.0 was created to not do any more multiple-point releases (like 2.2.8
> or god forbid 2.1.7.1 :) anymore.  When -current gets ready for
> release, the major version number gets bumped.  Take a look at
> /usr/share/misc/bsd-family-tree, and watch the far-left-hand branch to
> see what I mean.
> 
> -- 
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My NIC is failing to be probed.
On startup my kernel gives me this:

dc0  port ...irq 12
dc0 ethernet address ...
dc0 MII without any PHY <------------what is this and is it significant?
device_probe_and_attach:dc0
        attach returned 6

what is dc0 MII without any PHY , and how do I fix it?

Thanks
adam



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Khairuddin Abdul Ghani wrote:
> 
> Hello. I currently have two blocks of IPs to be used on a single machine,
> but I can't seem to get the new block working.
> 
> I have old IPs a.a.a.2 assigned and a.a.a.3-a.a.a.254 aliased with a.a.a.1
> as "defaultrouter" and broadcast IP of a.a.a.255.
> 
> I added aliases for the new block b.b.b.2-b.b.b.254, but they don't work.

	This is far from my area of expertise, but my understanding is that for
new network blocks you need to add the first address as a regular
address (b.b.b.2 netmask 255.255.255.0) without the alias. Then add the
remaining addresses in that block as aliases to it (b.b.b.3 netmask
255.255.255.255 alias). The definition of "new network block" will be
dependent on how the first block is defined.  

> Am I missing something, some setting in rc.conf perhaps? Thanks, as this is
> my first post, I hope it's technical enough to be here.

	Not to worry. This list is for all questions related to FreeBSD. The
only time you will run into problems is if you ask a question that is
covered by the handbook or in the mail archives. Get in the habit of
checking them first. 

Good luck,

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sat May 13 23:11: 5 2000
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>On Sat, 13 May 2000 21:18:08 PDT  "Shameek Basu" wrote:
>  +------------------
>  | Hi,
>  |
>  |     I did a df and this was the output:
>  |
>  | Filesystem    1K-blocks     Used     Avail    Capacity     Mounted on
>  | /dev/ad3s1a     49583       24913    20704       55%          /
>  | /dev/ad3s1f    4125061     1305486  2489571      34%         /usr
>  | /dev/ad3s1e     19815       12619    5611        69%         /var
>  | procfs            4           4        0         100%        /proc
>  |
>  |     I also did a fsck manually - there were no inconsistencies. Could
>  | someone please help me out?
>  +------------------
>
>run df -i, you may find something interesting.
>

I did..I discovered that I had 5000 inodes on /dev/as3s1e (or /var) and all 
were used up! This problem happened when I was installing a large no of 
packages on my machine. I think the pkg_add program makes a lot of symbolic 
links in /var/db/pkg directory. So though there aren't too many bytes used 
up, a lot of inodes are used up on /var. Of course I am speculating here.

Is there a solution to this other than uninstalling all these apps that I 
had installed?

Are there some directories in /var that I can delete w/o harming the system? 
I think deleting the symbolic links will cause problems at the time of 
uninstall and upgrades etc.

Shameek

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Sarah Wright wrote:
> 
> Where can I find a really comprehensive list of environment variables and
> what they do? I've looked around and all the lists I've come across only
> detail 20-25. But, I'm told there are "thousands"...

	Well, I'm not sure what you are referring to. An "environment variable"
is just a value that's exported by your shell into the "environment,"
where other programs can see it. What these variables are able to
influence depends on the program you're running at any given time. For
example, a lot of programs respect the EDITOR variable. So if you are
using Bash for example, and add this to your .bashrc file:

export EDITOR=vi

then any program that respects it will use vi as the editor. A good
example would be crontab. 

Hope this helps,

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