From owner-freebsd-small Sun Jan 9 6:39:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.tu-graz.ac.at (ns1.tu-graz.ac.at [129.27.2.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35D614CCF for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 06:39:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mbretter@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at) Received: from babsi.tu-graz.ac.at (chello-a17.vc-graz.ac.at [193.170.225.17]) by ns1.tu-graz.ac.at (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA13865 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 15:39:47 +0100 (MET) From: Michael Bretterklieber To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: 3.3R, custom-config, boot-problems Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 15:33:51 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00010915380800.33579@babsi.tu-graz.ac.at> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Forget my last mail. The problem was with the ppc-driver. I added "flags 0x40" and now it works (device ppc0 at isa? port? flags 0x40 net irq 7 ) But I think the boot-process should not stop without error-messages, if a problem occurs. Maybe I should post it to freebsd-stable. Bye, -- \|/ @ @ +---------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo---------------------------+ Michael Bretterklieber Office: Michael.Bretterklieber@gamed.com Privat: mbretter@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at URL: http://www.sbox.tu-graz.ac.at/home/m/mbretter/ Sorry for my bad english! +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Jan 10 22: 3:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.mmcable.com (fe2.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.163.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADFA8153C7 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:03:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jss@subatomix.com) Received: from mail.subatomix.com ([24.94.234.115]) by mail2.mmcable.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:53:39 -0600 Received: from Spooler by mail.subatomix.com (Mercury/32 v2.16); 11 Jan 00 00:05:45 -0600 Received: from spooler by mail.subatomix.com (Mercury/32 v2.16); 11 Jan 00 00:05:25 -0600 Received: from quark (24.94.234.13) by mail.subatomix.com (Mercury/32 v2.16); 11 Jan 00 00:05:14 -0600 Message-ID: <002601bf5bf8$861ae5f0$0dea5e18@mmcable.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Sharp" To: "freebsd-small" Subject: Another DiskOnChip Question Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:55:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks, freebsd-small, for recent help given to me. I have yet more questions about using a DiskOnChip: 1. Are there any special kernel options needed to support a DOC? 2. What devs does it use? I think I am about through cooking up a custom small FreeBSD for my company to use in its next embedded project. However, it is not hopeful that they will let me put it (er, the buildscripts) under the BSD license. :( Oh well; I'm still getting *paid* for writing Unix software! However, if freebsd-small desires, I *can* post progress reports. =============================== Jeffrey S. Sharp (XorAxAx) jss@subatomix.com http://www.subatomix.com/ -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version 3.12 GCS/IT/MU d-@ s-:+ a20 C++(++++) UBL+(+++$)> P L+(+++$)> !E W++ N+(++) o? K? w++$> !O M(-) !V PS+ PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+ R(+) tv+ b+ DI++(+++) G++ e> h--- r+++ y+++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Jan 10 22:47:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FFFB1540A for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:47:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA34086; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:47:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA01395; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:47:33 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200001110647.XAA01395@harmony.village.org> To: "Jeffrey S. Sharp" Subject: Re: Another DiskOnChip Question Cc: "freebsd-small" In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:55:54 CST." <002601bf5bf8$861ae5f0$0dea5e18@mmcable.com> References: <002601bf5bf8$861ae5f0$0dea5e18@mmcable.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:47:33 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <002601bf5bf8$861ae5f0$0dea5e18@mmcable.com> "Jeffrey S. Sharp" writes: : 1. Are there any special kernel options needed to support a DOC? device fla. : 2. What devs does it use? fla. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Tue Jan 11 5: 0:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from relay.flashnet.it (dns2.flashnet.it [194.247.160.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F097C154A6 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 05:00:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from l.aprato@studenti.to.it) Received: from fn229674.flashnet.it (ip054.pool-17.flashnet.it [195.191.17.55]) by relay.flashnet.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA07970 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:59:58 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.32.20000111140100.00683dfc@pop.studenti.to.it> X-Sender: s89346@pop.studenti.to.it (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:01:07 +0100 To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org From: Luca Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-small To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Jan 12 5:25:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from tandem.milestonerdl.com (tandem.milestonerdl.com [204.107.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 771B614E1E for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 05:25:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@tandem.milestonerdl.com) Received: from localhost (marc@localhost) by tandem.milestonerdl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA79104 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 08:48:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 08:48:19 -0600 (CST) From: marc rassbach To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: A small target? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG http://www.pdabuzz.com/ http://www.pdabuzz.com/Discussion/Forum4/HTML/000398.html It seems there may be a linux based handheld in the works. Does anyone know anything more about this other than a rumor? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Jan 12 5:57:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.eds.ch (ns1.eds.ch [194.235.48.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781FD14E9B for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 05:57:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roberto.Nunnari@agie.ch) Received: from onyx.eds.ch (onyx.eds.ch [206.122.128.224]) by ns1.eds.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18840 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:03:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailsrv.eds.ch (mailsrv.eds.ch [194.235.174.72] (may be forged)) by onyx.eds.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02681 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:01:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from agie.ch ([198.132.159.194]) by mailsrv.eds.ch (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA4AC for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:54:43 +0100 Message-ID: <387C8888.948219A9@agie.ch> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:58:32 +0100 From: "Roberto Nunnari, AGIE" Organization: AGIE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: minimum HW requirement Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there. I'd like to use picoBSD in an embedded system with very small resorces. It should be a 386 with just 1 or 2 Mb RAM. The system is a deeply embedded one, with no networking, nor graphics, sound, TCPIP, etc... All it needs would be a multitasking kernel, message queues, semaphores, pipes, memory management, I/O system, parallel port, and a couple of serial ports. I'd like to know how hard scaling down picoBSD to fit these constraints would be. Best regards. -- Roberto Nunnari -software engineer- mailto:roberto.nunnari@agie.ch AGIE - http://www.agie.com Via dei pioppi 16 tel: +41-91-8069138 6616 Losone """ Switzerland (o o) =======================oOO==(_)==OOo======================== MY OPNIONS ARE NOT NECESSARELY THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Jan 12 8:36:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (castles556.castles.com [208.214.165.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9D414FCE for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 08:36:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02293; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 08:43:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200001121643.IAA02293@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Roberto Nunnari, AGIE" Cc: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: minimum HW requirement In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:58:32 +0100." <387C8888.948219A9@agie.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 08:43:12 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi there. > > I'd like to use picoBSD in an embedded system with very > small resorces. It should be a 386 with just 1 or 2 Mb RAM. > > The system is a deeply embedded one, with no networking, nor > graphics, sound, TCPIP, etc... > > All it needs would be a multitasking kernel, message queues, > semaphores, pipes, memory management, I/O system, > parallel port, and a couple of serial ports. > > I'd like to know how hard scaling down picoBSD to fit these > constraints would be. "How long is a piece of string"? Seriously, without knowing what resources or experience you have available, all that can reasonably be said is "yes, it's possible". There's at least one product I'm aware of using a cut-down FreeBSD on a 386ex in 2MB of RAM. I think that still has networking in the system too. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Jan 12 10:15:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.eds.ch (ns1.eds.ch [194.235.48.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208AD14D4A; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:15:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roberto.Nunnari@agie.ch) Received: from onyx.eds.ch (onyx.eds.ch [206.122.128.224]) by ns1.eds.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA21037; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:21:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailsrv.eds.ch (mailsrv.eds.ch [194.235.174.72] (may be forged)) by onyx.eds.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA05143; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:19:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from agie.ch ([198.132.159.194]) by mailsrv.eds.ch (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA28E5; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:12:35 +0100 Message-ID: <387CC4F5.FAB08644@agie.ch> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:16:21 +0100 From: "Roberto Nunnari, AGIE" Organization: AGIE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Smith Cc: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: minimum HW requirement References: <200001121643.IAA02293@mass.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Smith wrote: > > > Hi there. > > > > I'd like to use picoBSD in an embedded system with very > > small resorces. It should be a 386 with just 1 or 2 Mb RAM. > > > > The system is a deeply embedded one, with no networking, nor > > graphics, sound, TCPIP, etc... > > > > All it needs would be a multitasking kernel, message queues, > > semaphores, pipes, memory management, I/O system, > > parallel port, and a couple of serial ports. > > > > I'd like to know how hard scaling down picoBSD to fit these > > constraints would be. > > "How long is a piece of string"? Seriously, without knowing what > resources or experience you have available, all that can reasonably be > said is "yes, it's possible". > > There's at least one product I'm aware of using a cut-down FreeBSD on a > 386ex in 2MB of RAM. I think that still has networking in the system too. > I'm used to work with OSs that you can scale down very easily just running a configuration utility or editing some configuration files. There you can choose the functionality you want to include in your OS and what you don't want to include. I never tried to scale down a unix system even though I have a good basilar understanding of unix OS architecture. The question is: - can you just work on the configuration files and choose what to include in picoBSD and what not or you have to go deep into the OS code? - if not, will something similar (configuration utility) be included in FreeBSD 4.0 or later? I just have a FreeBSD 3.2-stable PC I'm playing with and as I very much like it and came across picoBSD, thought I could set it up as my development platform for a project of mine. I was really too much in a hurry when I posted that message, but the question wasn't how long will it take. What I meant (which probably is different from what I said) is that I would be grateful for any hints/links/advice/experiences from the FreeBSD community on scaling down picoBSD. Best regards. -- Roberto Nunnari -software engineer- mailto:roberto.nunnari@agie.ch AGIE - http://www.agie.com Via dei pioppi 16 tel: +41-91-8069138 6616 Losone """ Switzerland (o o) =======================oOO==(_)==OOo======================== MY OPNIONS ARE NOT NECESSARELY THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Jan 12 10:20:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C1A14CAF; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:20:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA40755; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:20:31 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA15529; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:20:49 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200001121820.LAA15529@harmony.village.org> To: "Roberto Nunnari, AGIE" Subject: Re: minimum HW requirement Cc: Mike Smith , freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:16:21 +0100." <387CC4F5.FAB08644@agie.ch> References: <387CC4F5.FAB08644@agie.ch> <200001121643.IAA02293@mass.cdrom.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:20:49 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <387CC4F5.FAB08644@agie.ch> "Roberto Nunnari, AGIE" writes: : The question is: : - can you just work on the configuration files and choose : what to include in picoBSD and what not or you have to go : deep into the OS code? Mostly done in config files. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Jan 12 14:31:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30FC514A26; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:31:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@oldserver.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.105.241] (helo=propro) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 128WIG-0004FY-00; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:31:08 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:31:07 +0100 (CET) From: Marc Schneiders To: Mike Smith Cc: "Roberto Nunnari, AGIE" , freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: minimum HW requirement In-Reply-To: <200001121643.IAA02293@mass.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Mike Smith wrote: > > Hi there. > > > > I'd like to use picoBSD in an embedded system with very > > small resorces. It should be a 386 with just 1 or 2 Mb RAM. > > > > The system is a deeply embedded one, with no networking, nor > > graphics, sound, TCPIP, etc... > > > > All it needs would be a multitasking kernel, message queues, > > semaphores, pipes, memory management, I/O system, > > parallel port, and a couple of serial ports. > > > > I'd like to know how hard scaling down picoBSD to fit these > > constraints would be. > > "How long is a piece of string"? Seriously, without knowing what > resources or experience you have available, all that can reasonably be > said is "yes, it's possible". > > There's at least one product I'm aware of using a cut-down FreeBSD on a > 386ex in 2MB of RAM. I think that still has networking in the system too. > Is it possible to reveal what that product is? Thanks! -- Marc Schneiders marc@venster.nl marc@oldserver.demon.nl propro 11:30pm up 13 days, 1:19, load average: 2.17 2.12 2.08 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Jan 12 15: 9:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mimer.webgiro.com (mimer.webgiro.com [212.209.29.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B8215186 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:09:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@webgiro.com) Received: by mimer.webgiro.com (Postfix, from userid 66) id 6F1422DC09; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 00:09:11 +0100 (CET) Received: by mx.webgiro.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7EDED7811; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 00:09:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.webgiro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A25C10E10; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 00:09:10 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 00:09:10 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki To: "Roberto Nunnari, AGIE" Cc: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: minimum HW requirement In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG IMHO you will find out that scaling FreeBSD to feel well within 2MB RAM or less is not easy. Most certainly it's not going to be a "select A and B, omit C" type of configuration process. I managed to run quite a few well-behaving programs in 3MB, but it required careful analysis of resource consumption and/or application management. Also, I had to make some adjustments on a source level of kernel code (mainly to get rid of unneeded parts). I also recently received a report that the standard "router" type of floppy can run in 2MB RAM. Of course all these numbers are _without_ using swap, but I assume that's your case as well... Andrzej Bialecki // WebGiro AB, Sweden (http://www.webgiro.com) // ------------------------------------------------------------------- // ------ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve. http://www.freebsd.org -------- // --- Small & Embedded FreeBSD: http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ ---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Jan 13 20:59:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.mmcable.com (fe1.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.163.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD0D15293 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:59:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jss@subatomix.com) Received: from mail.subatomix.com ([24.94.234.115]) by mail1.mmcable.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:59:45 -0600 Received: from Spooler by mail.subatomix.com (Mercury/32 v2.16); 13 Jan 00 23:02:43 -0600 Received: from spooler by mail.subatomix.com (Mercury/32 v2.16); 13 Jan 00 23:02:40 -0600 Received: from quark (24.94.234.13) by mail.subatomix.com (Mercury/32 v2.16); 13 Jan 00 23:02:36 -0600 Message-ID: <000701bf5e4b$38f76a00$0dea5e18@mmcable.com> From: "Jeffrey S. Sharp" To: "freebsd-small" Subject: PC/104 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:52:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ahhh, the questions (but, therefore, learning) shall never end... Does the FreeBSD kernel (generally) support devices connected via a PC/104 bus? =============================== Jeffrey S. Sharp (XorAxAx) jss@subatomix.com http://www.subatomix.com/ -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version 3.12 GCS/IT/MU d-@ s-:+ a20 C++(++++) UBL+(+++$)> P L+(+++$)> !E W++ N+(++) o? K? w++$> !O M(-) !V PS+ PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+ R(+) tv+ b+ DI++(+++) G++ e> h--- r+++ y+++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Jan 13 21: 3:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E117151F8 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 21:03:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA47119; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:03:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA26728; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:04:00 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200001140504.WAA26728@harmony.village.org> To: "Jeffrey S. Sharp" Subject: Re: PC/104 Cc: "freebsd-small" In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:52:55 CST." <000701bf5e4b$38f76a00$0dea5e18@mmcable.com> References: <000701bf5e4b$38f76a00$0dea5e18@mmcable.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:04:00 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <000701bf5e4b$38f76a00$0dea5e18@mmcable.com> "Jeffrey S. Sharp" writes: : Does the FreeBSD kernel (generally) support devices connected via a : PC/104 bus? Yes. PC/104 is just ISA in a slight different form factor. We've used sio and video drivers on our cards w/o problems or modification. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Jan 13 21: 4: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from hindenburg.eboai.org (hindenburg.eboai.org [205.181.254.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB7C15253 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 21:04:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chip@eboai.org) Received: by hindenburg.eboai.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 34F823D42; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 00:04:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 00:04:05 -0500 From: Chip Marshall To: freebsd-small Subject: Re: PC/104 Message-ID: <20000114000405.A21066@hindenburg.eboai.org> Reply-To: chip@eboai.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-small References: <000701bf5e4b$38f76a00$0dea5e18@mmcable.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <000701bf5e4b$38f76a00$0dea5e18@mmcable.com>; from jss@subatomix.com on Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 10:52:55PM -0600 X-Real-OS: FreeBSD hindenburg.eboai.org 3.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 10:52:55PM -0600, Jeffrey S. Sharp wrote: > Ahhh, the questions (but, therefore, learning) shall never end... > > Does the FreeBSD kernel (generally) support devices connected via a > PC/104 bus? IIRC, PC/104 is just ISA in a different form factor, so it should looks like a plain ISA bus to FreeBSD. -- Chip Marshall http://www.chocobo.cx/chip/ InterNIC handle - CLM21 PGP key available on my web page On IRC via EFnet as Magus -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCM/CS d+(-) s+:++ a--- C++(+++) UB++++ P+++>$ L- E--- W++ N+(++) o K? w O M+ V- PS PE Y? PGP++ t+@ 5 X(+) R>+ t+() b+>++ DI++++ D(-) G e>++ h!>++ r--- y ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri Jan 14 14: 2:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C544714E5A for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:02:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tim@futuresouth.com) Received: (from tim@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA24371; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:02:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:02:03 -0600 From: Tim Tsai To: Chip Marshall Cc: freebsd-small Subject: Re: PC/104 Message-ID: <20000114160203.A24225@futuresouth.com> References: <000701bf5e4b$38f76a00$0dea5e18@mmcable.com> <20000114000405.A21066@hindenburg.eboai.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <20000114000405.A21066@hindenburg.eboai.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 12:04:05AM -0500, Chip Marshall wrote: > IIRC, PC/104 is just ISA in a different form factor, so it should > looks like a plain ISA bus to FreeBSD. One additional difference is that PC/104 supports IRQ sharing (across different devices on the bus). I don't remember the details Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message