From owner-freebsd-small Sun Jul 9 13:30:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from nbf-27.umd.edu (nbf-27.umd.edu [128.8.38.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581DD37BE8A for ; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 13:30:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bfoz@glue.umd.edu) Received: from glue.umd.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nbf-27.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06593 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 16:29:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bfoz@glue.umd.edu) Message-ID: <3968E0AE.AE7442A0@glue.umd.edu> Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 16:29:34 -0400 From: Brandon Fosdick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: small@freebsd.org Subject: Did Parallax go out of business? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Their web page has been down for at least a week and the address doesn't ping. Maybe they moved addresses? Or I have the address wrong? -Brandon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sun Jul 9 18:56: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D034F37BD14 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 18:55:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tim@futuresouth.com) Received: (from tim@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA24499; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 20:52:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 20:52:51 -0500 From: Tim Tsai To: Brandon Fosdick Cc: small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Did Parallax go out of business? Message-ID: <20000709205251.A24400@futuresouth.com> References: <3968E0AE.AE7442A0@glue.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <3968E0AE.AE7442A0@glue.umd.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Try parallaxinc.com - worked fine for me yesterday. Also checkout http://www.wilke.com, http://www.micromint.com, http://www.zworld.com and http://www.tern.com for other low-cost modules. Any other ones out there in the <$100 small quantities range? Tim On Sun, Jul 09, 2000 at 04:29:34PM -0400, Brandon Fosdick wrote: > Their web page has been down for at least a week and the address doesn't > ping. > Maybe they moved addresses? Or I have the address wrong? > > -Brandon > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sun Jul 9 21:22:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5C937C43F for ; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 21:22:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from forrestc@imach.com) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA29936; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 21:24:41 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 21:24:41 -0600 (MDT) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: Brandon Fosdick Cc: small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Did Parallax go out of business? In-Reply-To: <3968E0AE.AE7442A0@glue.umd.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I could have swore the url was just parallax.com, but I guess I was wrong. Try http://www.parallaxinc.com On Sun, 9 Jul 2000, Brandon Fosdick wrote: > Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 16:29:34 -0400 > From: Brandon Fosdick > To: small@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Did Parallax go out of business? > > Their web page has been down for at least a week and the address doesn't > ping. > Maybe they moved addresses? Or I have the address wrong? > > -Brandon > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sun Jul 9 23:17:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from lepton.subatomix.com (okc-27-143-173.mmcable.com [24.27.143.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F8B737BC62 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 23:17:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jss@lepton.subatomix.com) Received: from localhost (jss@localhost) by lepton.subatomix.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA41773; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 01:18:25 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jss@lepton.subatomix.com) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 01:18:20 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jeffrey S. Sharp" To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , abial@webgiro.com, dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, roger@cs.strath.ac.uk, small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Optimise for space -Os In-Reply-To: <200007081847.LAA13038@freeway.dcfinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 8 Jul 2000, Chad R. Larson wrote: > > Would it be heresy to suggest that perhaps the base for PicoBSD > might want to be 2.2-STABLE? Or perhaps 3.5-STABLE? It seems this > thread is spending a lot of time pondering ways around bloat. I don't think that would be a good idea, at least not for FreeBSD 4.x and later. It would be quite a hindrance to the new user; I can imagine him getting his hot-off-the-press FreeBSD 5.2 CDs and getting quite pissed off having to downgrade to a much earlier version to do embedded stuff. If I am told that FreeBSD makes a decent embedded OS, I would expect the latest version to have that capability. Then there's the whole issue of having old software and using new software. While its true that many small FreeBSD applications will use only sio/lpt/ppi/basic-networking/etc that has been rock-solid since prehistory, *someone* out there might very well want to use that cool new feature/device which was added in version 5.2. Denying that user the possibility of making small FreeBSD work is IMHO not the Right Thing. The stability issue is a double-edged sword; older versions are more mature and tested, but newer versions are getting more attention by bug finders/fixers or might have different/better implementations of stuff. That's my US$0.02. =============================== Jeffrey S. Sharp (XorAxAx) jss@subatomix.com -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version 3.12 GCS/IT/MU d-@ s-:+ a21 C++(++++) UBL+(+++$)> P L+(+++$)> E+> W++ N+(++) o? K? w++$> !O M(-) !V PS+ PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+ R(+) tv+ b+ DI++(+++) G++ e> h--- r+++ y+++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Jul 10 19:45:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from web5503.mail.yahoo.com (web5503.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.106.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 00EEF37BA15 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 19:45:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chustevens@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000711024507.7273.qmail@web5503.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.135.89.234] by web5503.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 19:45:07 PDT Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 19:45:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Chuck Stevens Subject: [Q]: Running FreeBSD as a user process on Solaris. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-small@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there a port of FreeBSD that can be run on a Solaris box as a user process? The reason I ask is this will enable me to simulate an embedded system running FreeBSD. The idea is to primarily help in development and debug in a non-native environment until the native environment becomes available. Thanks for any help -CS- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Jul 13 7:55:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from dopey.unlimited.net (dopey.unlimited.net [209.186.200.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FFFE37B54C for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 07:55:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from norami@unlimited.net) Received: from unlimited.net (ts3-129.unlimited.net [209.186.200.129]) by dopey.unlimited.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA02809 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 07:56:26 -0700 Message-ID: <396DDAF2.55BA4F20@unlimited.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 08:06:26 -0700 From: John Oram Reply-To: norami@unlimited.net Organization: norAmi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,x-ns1dzwuwOCyNhP,x-ns2r2809OnmPe2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "list=freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: low-cost computer from India Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Forwarded from a friend in Belgium: --------------------quote:-------------- 07.1999-07.2000 bYtES For aLL _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ B y t e s F o r A l l --- http://www.bytesforall.org _/ Making Computing Relevant to the People of South Asia _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Special first anniversary issue. July 1999-July 2000. We thank all our many friends and supporters who have offered encouragement along every step of the journey ---------------------------------------------------------------- * SIMPUTER -- SUB-$200 INTERNET DEVICE to help non-literate * users: In an effort to bring the Internet to the masses in * India and other developing countries, several academics and * engineers have used their spare time to design a sub-$200 * handheld Net appliance, writes Bangalore-based John Ribeiro of * IDG News Service (June 23). * The Simputer, or SIMple ComPUTER, will enable India's * illiterate population (some 48% of the country of one billion) * to surf the Web. The device was designed by professors and * students at the Indian Institute of Science (IISc) at * Bangalore, and engineers from Bangalore-based design company * Encore Software. A prototype of the appliance will be available * in August. * The Simputer is built around Intel's StrongARM CPU, with Linux * as the operating system. It will have 16 MB of flash memory, a * monochrome liquid crystal display (LCD) with a touch panel * overlay for pen-based computing, and a local-language * interface. The appliance will have Infrared Data Association * and Universal Serial Bus interfaces, and will feature Internet * access and mail software. * Its designers expect the Simputer to be used not only as a * personal Internet access device, but also by communities of * users at kiosks. A smart-card interface to the device will * enable the use of the device for applications such as micro- * banking. * "We expect to change the model for the proliferation of * information technology in India," says Professor Swami Manohar, * professor in the computer science and automation department of * the IISc. "The current PC-centric model is not sustainable * because of the high cost of the PC, and also because we expect * that most of the users will not be literate." * A subsequent version of the Simputer will also offer speech * recognition for basic navigation through the software menus. * The speech dictionary will be customizable to support different * languages. A text-to-speech system will also be developed to * take the technology to India's illiterate population. Later * versions will also offer wireless technology. * The intellectual property for the device has been transferred * free to a non-profit trust, called the Simputer Trust, and both * the software and the hardware for the appliance have been * offered as open source technology. In the open source model of * development, users and developers, often unpaid, work together * to update technology. Manohar says that the trust decided to * put the technology in Open Source to enable third party * software developers and designers to add value to the platform. * The technology for the product will be licensed to * manufacturers at a nominal fee of $1150, which is to be used to * finance upgrades to the Simputer. A number of large * manufacturers have shown interest in licensing the technology, * though the interest is currently confined to Indian companies, * according to Vinay Deshpande, chairman of Encore and a member * of the Simputer Trust. He says that the designers have been * able to achieve the sub-$200 price point since the electronic * components used in the device are all off-the-shelf volume * components, and the software is primarily open source software * such as Linux. * http://www.pcworld.com/pcwtoday/article/0,1510,17401,00.html -------------------unquote.------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Jul 13 18:55: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from sn1oexchr01.nextvenue.com (sn1oexchr01.nextvenue.com [63.209.169.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5893637BB22 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 18:54:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nevans@nextvenue.com) Received: FROM sn1exchmbx.nextvenue.com BY sn1oexchr01.nextvenue.com ; Thu Jul 13 21:53:10 2000 -0400 Received: by sn1exchmbx.nextvenue.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <34BTYZNN>; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 21:50:34 -0400 Message-ID: <712384017032D411AD7B0001023D799B07C9C9@sn1exchmbx.nextvenue.com> From: Nick Evans To: "'freebsd-small@freebsd.org'" Subject: Install on CDROM Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 21:50:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BFED35.E66101F0" Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BFED35.E66101F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Does anyone know of any resources about installing FreeBSD on a CDROM for an appliance like application of the OS. --------------------------------------- nick.evans network.engineering NextVenue, Inc. phone: 212.909.2988 pager: 888.642.5541 email: nevans@nextvenue.com 6425541@skytel.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01BFED35.E66101F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Install on CDROM

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------_=_NextPart_001_01BFED35.E66101F0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri Jul 14 5:37:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from lepton.subatomix.com (okc-27-143-173.mmcable.com [24.27.143.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637D137B5EE for ; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 05:37:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jss@lepton.subatomix.com) Received: from localhost (jss@localhost) by lepton.subatomix.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA58525; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 07:38:48 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jss@lepton.subatomix.com) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 07:38:42 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jeffrey S. Sharp" To: Nick Evans Cc: "'freebsd-small@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Install on CDROM In-Reply-To: <712384017032D411AD7B0001023D799B07C9C9@sn1exchmbx.nextvenue.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Nick Evans wrote: > > Does anyone know of any resources about installing FreeBSD on a CDROM for an > appliance like application of the OS. I don't think that PicoBSD would support that. My own version of a small FreeBSD kit, the TinyBSD kit, is being worked on and will eventually support making CD-ROMs and CD-ROM images. However, that's not one of my top priorities, so no guarantees exist on when CD-ROMs will be valid target_types. Right now, you're best bet is rolling your own. Don't dismiss the idea, though; it's not really that hard to do at all. I learned most of what I needed to know about it from reading PicoBSD's various build scripts, and, of course, keeping "The Complete FreeBSD" close by (thanks, Greg!). Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong. =============================== Jeffrey S. Sharp (XorAxAx) jss@subatomix.com -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version 3.12 GCS/IT/MU d-@ s-:+ a21 C++(++++) UBL+(+++$)> P L+(+++$)> E+> W++ N+(++) o? K? w++$> !O M(-) !V PS+ PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+ R(+) tv+ b+ DI++(+++) G++ e> h--- r+++ y+++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri Jul 14 12:40:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law-f105.hotmail.com [209.185.131.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CCC337BF6A for ; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 12:40:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randywaterhouse@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 6241 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jul 2000 19:40:23 -0000 Message-ID: <20000714194023.6240.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 24.4.254.202 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 12:40:23 PDT X-Originating-IP: [24.4.254.202] From: "Randy Waterhouse" To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PicoBSD in 4.0-STABLE Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 19:40:23 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is anyone working on getting PicoBSD to build in 4.0-STABLE, soon to be 4.1-RELEASE? Most of the changes that need to be made are in CVS but aren't part of RELENG_4. The only major change that is missing is to replace "more" with "less" (and possibly add links to "more") in the crunch.conf files. RW ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message