From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Mar 30 18:52:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.gerp.org (caffeine.gerp.org [216.80.26.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4382B37B51B for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:52:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kdulzo@mobile.gerp.org) Received: (qmail 6538 invoked by uid 100); 31 Mar 2000 02:52:09 -0000 Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:52:09 -0600 From: "Kevin M. Dulzo" To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Subject: Hello Message-ID: <20000330205209.A90031@mobile.gerp.org> Reply-To: kdulzo@gerp.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Finally I have decided to do something to develop somewhere. I noted this list has somewhat a light load of traffic, so I decided to hop on and say hi. I am currently working on getting cross compilation tools to work on my laptop -- progress is very good, but I have had some minor issues. I have some questions -- the current documentation lists netbsd as our staging point of choice. After getting function cross compiler and binary utilities, we need a libc to attempt to build userland applications...which one do we use? FreeBSD's libc would seem to be the choice in my book, but are there not syscall issues between the NetBSD and FreeBSD kernel? NetBSD's libc would seem to be the choice to talk to the NetBSD kernel, however header files and expected libc calls would be out of sync would they not? GNU's libc doesn't support the architecture (per configure) My current cross compilation setup looks something like this: /usr/local/sparc-netbsd /bin /sparc-netbsd /include (copy of FreeBSD's /usr/include) /src /sys (NetBSD kernel with arch/sparc* only) /contrib (GNU utility src for building cross compiler) /binutils (build directory) /binutils-2.9.1 (GNU src) /gcc (build directory) /gcc-2.95.2 (GNU src) My cross build process is the following: cd /usr/local/sparc-netbsd/src/contrib set path = ( $path /usr/local/sparc-netbsd/bin ) # needed for gcc build set target = sparc-netbsd set prefix = /usr/local/sparc-netbsd cd binutils ../binutils-2.9.1/configure --target=$target --prefix=$prefix -v make all install cd gcc ../gcc-2.95.2/configure --target=$target --prefix=$prefix -v make all install (repeat for gdb -- I have yet to get this far) I have a number of sparcs on order (GO EBAY!) My current IPX is offline for now... [where did I put that null modem *sigh* ] Please give me feedback and let me know your own experiences, I am really excited to help get this off the ground! -Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Mar 30 19:25:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.gerp.org (caffeine.gerp.org [216.80.26.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C57B37C2FE for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 19:25:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kdulzo@mobile.gerp.org) Received: (qmail 15141 invoked by uid 100); 31 Mar 2000 03:25:48 -0000 Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:25:48 -0600 From: "Kevin M. Dulzo" To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Subject: Cross compilation problems Message-ID: <20000330212548.A15132@mobile.gerp.org> Reply-To: kdulzo@gerp.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org After my windy intro, my cross compilation still bombs out in the libio portion. It really seems to have built the compiler but is dying someplace later on (not a gcc internals guru). One of the things that bugs me is the C preprocessor line using /lib/cpp -- that seems odd. Any suggestions? Anyone successfully build these tools yet? -Kevin Here is the failure output: make all-recursive Making all in intl Making all in lib Making all in makeinfo (cd intl && make all) Configuring in sparc-netbsd/libiberty loading cache ./config.cache checking host system type... sparc-unknown-netbsd checking build system type... i386-unknown-freebsdelf checking for sparc-netbsd-ar... sparc-netbsd-ar checking for sparc-netbsd-ranlib... sparc-netbsd-ranlib checking for gcc... /usr/local/sparc-netbsd/src/contrib/gcc/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/sparc-netbsd/src/contrib/gcc/gcc/ -B/usr/local/sparc-netbsd/sparc-netbsd/bin/ checking whether we are using GNU C... yes checking whether /usr/local/sparc-netbsd/src/contrib/gcc/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/sparc-netbsd/src/contrib/gcc/gcc/ -B/usr/local/sparc-netbsd/sparc-netbsd/bin/ accepts -g... yes checking for POSIXized ISC... no checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c xhost-mkfrag is unchanged checking how to run the C preprocessor... /lib/cpp checking for sys/file.h... no checking for sys/param.h... no checking for stdlib.h... no checking for string.h... no checking for unistd.h... no checking for strings.h... no checking for sys/time.h... no checking for sys/resource.h... no checking for sys/wait.h that is POSIX.1 compatible... no checking whether the C compiler (/usr/local/sparc-netbsd/src/contrib/gcc/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/sparc-netbsd/src/contrib/gcc/gcc/ -B/usr/local/sparc-netbsd/sparc-netbsd/bin/ -g -O2 ) works... no configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/local/sparc-netbsd/src/contrib/gcc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Mar 30 20:49:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from band1.bandwidth.net (band1.bandwidth.net [208.221.199.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A8F937B989 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:49:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eno@pdxconnect.com) Received: from tty1A7.bandwidth.net by band1.bandwidth.net with SMTP (5.65/1.2-eef) id AA09630; Thu, 30 Mar 00 20:49:09 -0800 Message-Id: <38E42E4B.E2D91EE8@pdxconnect.com> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:49:15 -0800 From: Evan Oulashin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org, ericw@bandwidth.net Subject: Sparc machines available Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Being a long time FreeBSD supporter, user, including running an ISP with versions between 2.1 and 4.0, it occurs to me that perhaps some of you good souls might be interested in this: My employer currently has a large inventory of Axil 245 and Axil 320 machines that he'd like to part with for fair dollars. Axil is sadly no longer but their products were a first rate sparc-compatible item. The 245 is essentially equivalent of a Sparcstation 5, with either 85 or 110 mhz. processors available. No Enterprise machine by any stretch but still a 'real' Sun compatible machine. The 320 is a Sparcstation 20 clone. These typically run the 81 mhz Mbus dual cpu modules, and can run a pair of them. We still also have some Ross 100mhz modules available that run here as well. Most of the 320s are equipped with 48vdc power supplies but some 120vac units are still available, and it is said we can still obtain the 120vac power supplies. All the 245s are 120vac. Both are pizza box systems; the 245 accepts 72 pin simms in pairs while the 320 takes the 100 pin (?) larger (non-pc style) simms. We have memory available as well. If you sparc developers are interested in having one of these boxes at pretty reasonable dollars, please email me. If I see sufficient interest, I'll lobby with the boss for a decent cost figure and see if we can get some of this hardware to work getting our favorite O/S onto the Sparc architecture. For those of you interested in either of these, perhaps you could indicate to me in an email what you'd be thinking a box like this might be worth: 320: 1 81 mhz module, 64mb ram, floppy drive, 1 or 2 gig HD, (or you install your own 50 pin SCSI drive), TGX video card (has 13W3 connector, not actually essential as the 320 will talk through the serial port just fine). Submit suggestions to me; I'll take it up with the boss; I know he'd be interested in furthering the FreeBSD cause to Sparc. I trust this won't be considered spam; I've been a follower for quite a while and only recently a subscriber; my intent is certainly not to spam the list but to possible contribute a source of hardware. If I'm wrong here, I'm sure you'll all let me know... tx Evan Oulashin InterNet Technologies, Inc. 800-466-4156 http://www.bandwidth.net http://www.iti-dist.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Mar 30 21:12:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.visi.com (baal.visi.com [209.98.98.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D046D37BB51 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:12:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mtempel@mail.visi.com) Received: from dirac (dirac.fofx.org [209.98.236.73]) by mail.visi.com (8.8.8/8.7.5) with SMTP id XAA08048; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:12:04 -0600 (CST) Posted-Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:12:04 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <003301bf9ace$8325db60$49ec62d1@dirac> From: "Mark Tempel" To: Cc: References: <20000330212548.A15132@mobile.gerp.org> Subject: Re: Cross compilation problems Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:03:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin M. Dulzo" To: Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 9:25 PM Subject: Cross compilation problems > After my windy intro, my cross compilation still bombs out in the libio > portion. It really seems to have built the compiler but is dying > someplace later on (not a gcc internals guru). One of the things > that bugs me is the C preprocessor line using /lib/cpp -- that seems > odd. Any suggestions? Anyone successfully build these tools yet? > > -Kevin > > Here is the failure output: > > make all-recursive > Making all in intl > Making all in lib > Making all in makeinfo > (cd intl && make all) > Configuring in sparc-netbsd/libiberty > loading cache ./config.cache > checking host system type... sparc-unknown-netbsd > checking build system type... i386-unknown-freebsdelf ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Are you building a cross compiler from freebsd-i386 to ntebsd-sparc? If so, I think Lydon said that he had some success there. I don't know if that is exactly the compiler that we need. My impression, is that we really need a freebsd-sparc compiler. I have been using the NetBSD sparc gcc for my playing around, but we will need a FreeBSD version soon. The problem I see is that the NetBSD compiler will build a.out binaries, however FreeBSD needs elf binary files. Oh, While I'm posting to the group, I have a question: The big unknown for me though is what is going to happen with the merger between Walnut Creek CDROM and BSDi. Will there be an effort (other than this one) to merge BSDi sparc with FreeBSD? Untill I find out, I have stopped working on kernel level stuff ( I was working on porting the loader) and started working on the userland part of the port. I am trying to modify the FreeBSD make files to build the userland (make buildworld) in a source tree NFS mounted to my sparc... Obviously this won't _just_ work... I know that we will need to hack some kind of libc together that will allow FreeBSD userland programs to use the NetBSD kernel... I'll fill you in on the details as I figure them out. Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks, Mark Tempel mtempel@visi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Mar 30 21:31:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.gerp.org (caffeine.gerp.org [216.80.26.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9198437B83C for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:31:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kdulzo@mobile.gerp.org) Received: (qmail 94159 invoked by uid 100); 31 Mar 2000 05:31:40 -0000 Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:31:40 -0600 From: "Kevin M. Dulzo" To: Mark Tempel Cc: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cross compilation problems Message-ID: <20000330233140.A93502@mobile.gerp.org> References: <20000330212548.A15132@mobile.gerp.org> <003301bf9ace$8325db60$49ec62d1@dirac> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <003301bf9ace$8325db60$49ec62d1@dirac>; from mtempel@visi.com on Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 11:03:53PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 11:03:53PM -0600, Mark Tempel wrote: > Are you building a cross compiler from freebsd-i386 to ntebsd-sparc? If > so, I think Lydon said that he had some success there. > I think I have figured it out -- needed /usr/lib from netbsd-sparc. I will have to prune out the specifics later on -- the "CrossGCC" FAQ seems to be lacking in all that is REALLY required to do this. > I don't know if that is exactly the compiler that we need. My impression, > is that we really need a freebsd-sparc compiler. I have been using the > NetBSD sparc gcc for my playing around, but we will need a FreeBSD > version soon. The problem I see is that the NetBSD compiler will build a.out > binaries, however FreeBSD needs elf binary files. That would seem to be a much bigger undertaking. NetBSD is an aout kernel and only knows aout binaries right? GCC has support for sparc*elf, but if we crosscompile userland apps to that binary type will the netbsd kernel run them? To make a sparc-unknown-freebsdelf for binutils looks way beyond my capabilities -- but I can give anything a try. Any pointers? (Don't we need an ABI (reaching for real term here) to do that anyway?) > I know that we will need to hack some kind of libc together that will allow > FreeBSD > userland programs to use the NetBSD kernel... > That is hopefully my next item to attack in some way, or at least better comprehend the approach needed. First I need buildtools =) -Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Mar 30 21:38:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350F237C3EB for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:38:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.ucdavis.edu) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@d60-024.leach.ucdavis.edu [169.237.60.24]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA22352; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:38:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA60871; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:38:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:38:28 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Mark Tempel Cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cross compilation problems Message-ID: <20000330213828.A60847@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000330212548.A15132@mobile.gerp.org> <003301bf9ace$8325db60$49ec62d1@dirac> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <003301bf9ace$8325db60$49ec62d1@dirac>; from mtempel@visi.com on Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 11:03:53PM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 11:03:53PM -0600, Mark Tempel wrote: > Untill I find out, I have stopped working on kernel level stuff ( I was > working on porting the loader) DON'T stop this -- this is actually the best thing and most needed (IMHO). Even if we take the BSDI/sparc bits to create FreeBSD/sparc we will need the FreeBSD loader. FreeBSD/sparc *must* "feel" just like FreeBSD/i386 or FreeBSD/alpha -- otherwise it isn't FreeBSD. The loader is very FreeBSD specific and not having it is not acceptable. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Mar 31 6:27:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from euromail1.genrad.com (x37.genrad.co.uk [195.99.3.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D7637B5A2 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:27:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swindellsr@genrad.co.uk) Received: from CDP437 (cdp437.uk.genrad.com [132.223.131.31]) by euromail1.genrad.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id H9RQSFGF; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:27:22 +0100 From: Robert Swindells To: kdulzo@gerp.org Cc: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <20000330205209.A90031@mobile.gerp.org> (kdulzo@mobile.gerp.org) Subject: Re: Hello Reply-To: rjs@fdy2.demon.co.uk Message-Id: <20000331142723.00D7637B5A2@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:27:23 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >FreeBSD's libc would seem to be the choice in my book, but are >there not syscall issues between the NetBSD and FreeBSD kernel? The alpha libc has a switch to allow it to be compiled using the NetBSD syscall definitions. I would try to do something similar so that you can run the FreeBSD userland on a NetBSD/sparc system. Robert Swindells To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Mar 31 6:40:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from euromail1.genrad.com (x37.genrad.co.uk [195.99.3.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577D437B7E8 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:40:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swindellsr@genrad.co.uk) Received: from CDP437 (cdp437.uk.genrad.com [132.223.131.31]) by euromail1.genrad.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id H9RQSFH8; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:40:04 +0100 From: Robert Swindells To: mtempel@visi.com Cc: kdulzo@gerp.org, freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <003301bf9ace$8325db60$49ec62d1@dirac> (mtempel@visi.com) Subject: Re: Cross compilation problems Reply-To: rjs@fdy2.demon.co.uk Message-Id: <20000331144005.577D437B7E8@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:40:05 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mark Tempel wrote: >I don't know if that is exactly the compiler that we need. My impression, >is that we really need a freebsd-sparc compiler. I have been using the >NetBSD sparc gcc for my playing around, but we will need a FreeBSD >version soon. The problem I see is that the NetBSD compiler will build a.out >binaries, however FreeBSD needs elf binary files. NetBSD can load both a.out and ELF binaries, different ports default to using one format or the other for their userland. I would suggest building a NetBSD/sparc kernel with ELF support in addition to a.out. In any case, we would want FreeBSD/sparc to be able to run NetBSD/sparc and (if possible) SunOS 4.x binaries, so any kernel work to run a.out binaries on FreeBSD/sparc isn't wasted. Robert Swindells To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Mar 31 9:16:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from ieng9.ucsd.edu (ieng9.ucsd.edu [132.239.50.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8ED137BE52 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:16:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdawes@ieng9.ucsd.edu) Received: from localhost (rdawes@localhost) by ieng9.ucsd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11820; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:15:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:15:54 -0800 (PST) From: "Richard J. Dawes" Reply-To: rdawes@ucsd.edu To: Evan Oulashin Cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG, ericw@bandwidth.net Subject: Re: Sparc machines available In-Reply-To: <38E42E4B.E2D91EE8@pdxconnect.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello! Perhaps you should get some prices together, then post them, then await responses. BTW, if your co. has used them, fully depreciated them, and now wants to dump them, you should not be trying to make $$ on them, you should be giving them away for the cost of shipping (minus memory, etc. that retain value). Just my two cents... --Rich ========================================== Richard J. Dawes rdawes@ucsd.edu ========================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Mar 31 10:29:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from band1.bandwidth.net (band1.bandwidth.net [208.221.199.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 121AD37BA38 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:29:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eno@bandwidth.net) Received: from supt.bandwidth.net by band1.bandwidth.net with SMTP (5.65/1.2-eef) id AA03188; Fri, 31 Mar 00 10:29:02 -0800 Message-Id: <38E4EE64.96202902@bandwidth.net> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:28:52 -0800 From: Evan Oulashin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,ja Mime-Version: 1.0 To: rdawes@ucsd.edu Cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG, ericw@bandwidth.net Subject: Re: Sparc machines available References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Agree, we wouldn't try to make any $ on used machines; 95% of the inventory is brand new in the box. There are also a few "used" boxes available, but we're more interested in selling the brand new inventory. tx eno "Richard J. Dawes" wrote: > > Hello! > Perhaps you should get some prices together, then post them, then > await responses. > BTW, if your co. has used them, fully depreciated them, and now > wants to dump them, you should not be trying to make $$ on them, you > should be giving them away for the cost of shipping (minus memory, etc. > that retain value). Just my two cents... > > --Rich > > ========================================== > Richard J. Dawes rdawes@ucsd.edu > ========================================== > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message -- Regards, Evan Oulashin InterNet Technologies, Inc. 800-466-4156 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Mar 31 12: 5:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from band1.bandwidth.net (band1.bandwidth.net [208.221.199.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E9ACA37B939 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:05:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eno@bandwidth.net) Received: from supt.bandwidth.net by band1.bandwidth.net with SMTP (5.65/1.2-eef) id AA07893; Fri, 31 Mar 00 12:05:22 -0800 Message-Id: <38E504F9.30BF713A@bandwidth.net> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:05:13 -0800 From: Evan Oulashin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,ja Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org, ericw@bandwidth.net Subject: Sparc machines available Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In checking with the boss, I find that the 320 machines in stock are currently the subject of a pending deal, so at the moment those boxes aren't available. The 245s, however, are available. Specs may be viewed at http://www.iti-dist.com/245-specs.htm . Boss says he'd sell the 245 barebones box (chassis, power supply, motherboard w/85 mhz CPU) for $250.00. Add $20 for autoeject floppy Add $20 for 110mhz CPU option Some of the 245s have the TGX+ graphics option on the motherboard; these would be first come first served. We also have some TGX and TGX+ Sbus adapters available at $75 ea. Add $40 for keyboard and mechanical mouse. We also have several cartons of the optical mice but unfortunately none of the metal optical grid plates required to use these; if you have access to the plate, you could choose to substitute an optical mouse. Shipping to be paid by buyer; UPS and FedX available. I'll see if I can get a 245 up on NetBSD and put it on the net for those of you who would like to play with it. -- Regards, Evan Oulashin InterNet Technologies, Inc. 800-466-4156 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Mar 31 12:35:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.bsd4us.org (cn386092-a.newcas1.de.home.com [24.40.46.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E7CC637B652 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:35:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lyndon@bsd4us.org) Received: (qmail 49956 invoked by uid 1000); 31 Mar 2000 20:30:54 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 Mar 2000 20:30:54 -0000 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:30:54 -0500 (EST) From: Lyndon Griffin To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cross compilation problems In-Reply-To: <20000330212548.A15132@mobile.gerp.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is where I seem to bomb out, as well. Funny - it sounds like this is a very frequent problem, but the Cross-GCC faq says nothing about it. I did try to "skip" the part of the configure script that does this, but I started running into many other issues, so I kinda dropped the ball. I'm kinda thinking that this is always going to fail at this point, and here's my logic: 1) we built a cross compiler to compile netbsd-sparc bins on freebsd-i86 2) the configure script tries to build (and execute?) a binary on i86 using the f-i86 to n-sparc compiler 3) the sparc bin fails, as it can't run on an i86 (or something like that) On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Kevin M. Dulzo wrote: > After my windy intro, my cross compilation still bombs out in the libio > portion. It really seems to have built the compiler but is dying > someplace later on (not a gcc internals guru). One of the things > that bugs me is the C preprocessor line using /lib/cpp -- that seems > odd. Any suggestions? Anyone successfully build these tools yet? > > -Kevin > > Here is the failure output: > > make all-recursive > Making all in intl > Making all in lib > Making all in makeinfo > (cd intl && make all) > Configuring in sparc-netbsd/libiberty > loading cache ./config.cache > checking host system type... sparc-unknown-netbsd > checking build system type... i386-unknown-freebsdelf > checking for sparc-netbsd-ar... sparc-netbsd-ar > checking for sparc-netbsd-ranlib... sparc-netbsd-ranlib > checking for gcc... /usr/local/sparc-netbsd/src/contrib/gcc/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/sparc-netbsd/src/contrib/gcc/gcc/ -B/usr/local/sparc-netbsd/sparc-netbsd/bin/ > checking whether we are using GNU C... yes > checking whether /usr/local/sparc-netbsd/src/contrib/gcc/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/sparc-netbsd/src/contrib/gcc/gcc/ -B/usr/local/sparc-netbsd/sparc-netbsd/bin/ accepts -g... yes > checking for POSIXized ISC... no > checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c > xhost-mkfrag is unchanged > checking how to run the C preprocessor... /lib/cpp > checking for sys/file.h... no > checking for sys/param.h... no > checking for stdlib.h... no > checking for string.h... no > checking for unistd.h... no > checking for strings.h... no > checking for sys/time.h... no > checking for sys/resource.h... no > checking for sys/wait.h that is POSIX.1 compatible... no > checking whether the C compiler (/usr/local/sparc-netbsd/src/contrib/gcc/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/sparc-netbsd/src/contrib/gcc/gcc/ -B/usr/local/sparc-netbsd/sparc-netbsd/bin/ -g -O2 ) works... no > configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/local/sparc-netbsd/src/contrib/gcc. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Mar 31 12:40:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.bsd4us.org (cn386092-a.newcas1.de.home.com [24.40.46.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8645537BA60 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:40:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swilson@bsd4us.org) Received: (qmail 49974 invoked by uid 1001); 31 Mar 2000 20:36:22 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 Mar 2000 20:36:22 -0000 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:36:22 -0500 (EST) From: Sam Wilson To: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cross compilation problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I went to a book store today and was looking at the Oh!, Really? book on "Programming with GNU Tools". There was a table in it about all the different "supported" (ie. supported by Cygnus Solutions--DO NOT BUY THIS BOOK, it's a big dumb ad for Cygnus and didn't seem to contian anything resembling useful information--unless, of course, you consider Cygnus phone number useful...) cross-compiler settings. Oddly enough, i386 was not listed as one of the supported "host" machines; it was only listed as a target. Something tells me we may need to try and contact some of the alpha-port people and enlist their help... sw On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Lyndon Griffin wrote: > This is where I seem to bomb out, as well. Funny - it sounds like this > is a very frequent problem, but the Cross-GCC faq says nothing about > it. I did try to "skip" the part of the configure script that does this, > but I started running into many other issues, so I kinda dropped the ball. > I'm kinda thinking that this is always going to fail at this point, and > here's my logic: > > 1) we built a cross compiler to compile netbsd-sparc bins on freebsd-i86 > 2) the configure script tries to build (and execute?) a binary on i86 > using the f-i86 to n-sparc compiler > 3) the sparc bin fails, as it can't run on an i86 (or something like that) > > On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Kevin M. Dulzo wrote: > > > After my windy intro, my cross compilation still bombs out in the libio > > portion. It really seems to have built the compiler but is dying > > someplace later on (not a gcc internals guru). One of the things > > that bugs me is the C preprocessor line using /lib/cpp -- that seems > > odd. Any suggestions? Anyone successfully build these tools yet? > > > > -Kevin > > > > Here is the failure output: > > > > make all-recursive > > Making all in intl > > Making all in lib > > Making all in makeinfo > > (cd intl && make all) > > Configuring in sparc-netbsd/libiberty > > loading cache ./config.cache > > checking host system type... sparc-unknown-netbsd > > checking build system type... i386-unknown-freebsdelf > > checking for sparc-netbsd-ar... sparc-netbsd-ar > > checking for sparc-netbsd-ranlib... sparc-netbsd-ranlib > > checking for gcc... /usr/local/sparc-netbsd/src/contrib/gcc/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/sparc-netbsd/src/contrib/gcc/gcc/ -B/usr/local/sparc-netbsd/sparc-netbsd/bin/ > > checking whether we are using GNU C... yes > > checking whether /usr/local/sparc-netbsd/src/contrib/gcc/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/sparc-netbsd/src/contrib/gcc/gcc/ -B/usr/local/sparc-netbsd/sparc-netbsd/bin/ accepts -g... yes > > checking for POSIXized ISC... no > > checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c > > xhost-mkfrag is unchanged > > checking how to run the C preprocessor... /lib/cpp > > checking for sys/file.h... no > > checking for sys/param.h... no > > checking for stdlib.h... no > > checking for string.h... no > > checking for unistd.h... no > > checking for strings.h... no > > checking for sys/time.h... no > > checking for sys/resource.h... no > > checking for sys/wait.h that is POSIX.1 compatible... no > > checking whether the C compiler (/usr/local/sparc-netbsd/src/contrib/gcc/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/sparc-netbsd/src/contrib/gcc/gcc/ -B/usr/local/sparc-netbsd/sparc-netbsd/bin/ -g -O2 ) works... no > > configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/local/sparc-netbsd/src/contrib/gcc. > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Mar 31 12:50:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from enzo.vangyzen.net (pm-iog6as.greenvillenc.com [208.25.245.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E97337B93A for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:49:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vangyzen@hiro.vangyzen.net) Received: from hiro.vangyzen.net (hiro [192.168.1.3]) by enzo.vangyzen.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10389; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:48:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from vangyzen@hiro.vangyzen.net) Received: (from vangyzen@localhost) by hiro.vangyzen.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA00696; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:47:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from vangyzen) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:47:30 -0500 From: "Eric S . Van Gyzen" To: Evan Oulashin Cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG, ericw@bandwidth.net Subject: Re: Sparc machines available Message-ID: <20000331154730.A674@hiro.vangyzen.net> References: <38E42E4B.E2D91EE8@pdxconnect.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <38E42E4B.E2D91EE8@pdxconnect.com>; from eno@pdxconnect.com on Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 08:49:15PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ... > My employer currently has a > large inventory of Axil 245 and Axil 320 machines that he'd like to part > with for fair dollars. ... > For those of you interested in either of these, perhaps you could > indicate to me in an email what you'd be thinking a box like this might > be worth: ... I would be interested if you would post a starting price. They're worth money to you, but to me they're just something that would be nice to have. You see what I'm getting at? If I were the one to come up with a dollar figure, I'd pick something low; if you picked a figure, I could probably convince myself that it's a great deal and buy one (or bargain you down :-). Please be aware: my brain rarely functions properly. Thus, this may not be the viewpoint of a single other soul on the planet. But it is mine. Eric To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Mar 31 15:32:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.gerp.org (caffeine.gerp.org [216.80.26.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E562E37B73F for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:32:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kdulzo@mobile.gerp.org) Received: (qmail 50514 invoked by uid 100); 31 Mar 2000 23:32:05 -0000 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:32:04 -0600 From: "Kevin M. Dulzo" To: rjs@fdy2.demon.co.uk Cc: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hello Message-ID: <20000331173204.A50505@mobile.gerp.org> References: <20000330205209.A90031@mobile.gerp.org> <20000331142723.00D7637B5A2@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000331142723.00D7637B5A2@hub.freebsd.org>; from swindellsr@genrad.co.uk on Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 06:27:23AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 06:27:23AM -0800, Robert Swindells wrote: > The alpha libc has a switch to allow it to be compiled using the NetBSD > syscall definitions. I would try to do something similar so that you > can run the FreeBSD userland on a NetBSD/sparc system. > I see that thanks for the pointer, I will keep this in mind if I ever get that far. However I noted that uses a include, I do not have that on my system. I could assume thats just NetBSD's sys/syscall.h renamed -- but it may be some tuned version. I agree with the sentiments to talk to the alpha folks, I will compose a message shortly and crosspost to freebsd-alpha. -Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Mar 31 15:36:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.gerp.org (caffeine.gerp.org [216.80.26.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 105F137B53C for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:36:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kdulzo@mobile.gerp.org) Received: (qmail 50529 invoked by uid 100); 31 Mar 2000 23:36:29 -0000 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:36:29 -0600 From: "Kevin M. Dulzo" To: rjs@fdy2.demon.co.uk Cc: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cross compilation problems Message-ID: <20000331173629.B50505@mobile.gerp.org> References: <003301bf9ace$8325db60$49ec62d1@dirac> <20000331144005.577D437B7E8@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000331144005.577D437B7E8@hub.freebsd.org>; from swindellsr@genrad.co.uk on Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 06:40:05AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 06:40:05AM -0800, Robert Swindells wrote: > > NetBSD can load both a.out and ELF binaries, different ports default to > using one format or the other for their userland. > This is perfect, I should have realised this. I have switched to giving the sparc-elf crosscompiler a shot, then see if we can run userland apps compiled from that setup. > I would suggest building a NetBSD/sparc kernel with ELF support in > addition to a.out. I think this is the ultimate plan, I am currently just trying to get a cross compiler to start hacking at libc. Kernel works I will leave for some of the more qualified, or have to dedicate some time to becoming so myself. In any case, my impressions are userland is more important than kernel at this time. -Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Mar 31 15:42:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.gerp.org (caffeine.gerp.org [216.80.26.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F9D237BDA9 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:42:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kdulzo@mobile.gerp.org) Received: (qmail 50551 invoked by uid 100); 31 Mar 2000 23:42:04 -0000 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:42:04 -0600 From: "Kevin M. Dulzo" To: Lyndon Griffin Cc: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cross compilation problems Message-ID: <20000331174204.C50505@mobile.gerp.org> References: <20000330212548.A15132@mobile.gerp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from lyndon@bsd4us.org on Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 03:30:54PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 03:30:54PM -0500, Lyndon Griffin wrote: > This is where I seem to bomb out, as well. Funny - it sounds like this > is a very frequent problem, but the Cross-GCC faq says nothing about > it. I did try to "skip" the part of the configure script that does this, > but I started running into many other issues, so I kinda dropped the ball. > I'm kinda thinking that this is always going to fail at this point, and > here's my logic: > I noted the lack on the CrossGCC FAQ myself -- it seems very newlib/embedded system centric. > 1) we built a cross compiler to compile netbsd-sparc bins on freebsd-i86 > 2) the configure script tries to build (and execute?) a binary on i86 > using the f-i86 to n-sparc compiler > 3) the sparc bin fails, as it can't run on an i86 (or something like that) > I think I have this figured out -- just not a solution. Im going to post a request for info to the binutils list. But this is not a problem with gcc or its build process, it is ld. Run the sparc-netbsd-ld command: /usr/local/sparc-elf/bin/sparc-elf-ld:built in linker script:1: syntax error in MRI style script Furthur examination of config.log in gcc-build-dir/gcc/libiberty the config.log file for the breakage point shows this error in it. Starting from scratch and rebuilding cross-binutils standalone still shows this error when executing. I also tried using the -c option to use the ldscripts/ directory versions and received the same error for all of them. Fun, fun, fun. -Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Mar 31 21: 3:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.visi.com (baal.visi.com [209.98.98.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AAD337B7DB for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:03:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mtempel@mail.visi.com) Received: from dirac (dirac.fofx.org [209.98.236.73]) by mail.visi.com (8.8.8/8.7.5) with SMTP id XAA27711; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 23:00:24 -0600 (CST) Posted-Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 23:00:24 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <005901bf9b96$0bb6c3f0$49ec62d1@dirac> From: "Mark Tempel" To: "Kevin M. Dulzo" Cc: References: <003301bf9ace$8325db60$49ec62d1@dirac> <20000331144005.577D437B7E8@hub.freebsd.org> <20000331173629.B50505@mobile.gerp.org> Subject: Re: Cross compilation problems Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 22:52:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin M. Dulzo" To: Cc: Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Cross compilation problems > On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 06:40:05AM -0800, Robert Swindells wrote: > > > > NetBSD can load both a.out and ELF binaries, different ports default to > > using one format or the other for their userland. > > Wow, I didn't know that. I'm still relativly new to NetBSD. I'm glad that this is the case. Now I don't think that a freebsd-sparc output from gcc is as important at this point. > > I would suggest building a NetBSD/sparc kernel with ELF support in > > addition to a.out. > > I think this is the ultimate plan, I am currently just trying to > get a cross compiler to start hacking at libc. Kernel works I will > leave for some of the more qualified, or have to dedicate some time to > becoming so myself. In any case, my impressions are userland is more > important than kernel at this time. I agree with you that the userland is more important right now. Also, given the response that kernel work will not be wasted in light of the WC-BSDi merger, I will go back to working on the loader stuff.... Good news is there is no need for boot1 (ahh the joys of the prom). Mark Tempel mtempel@visi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Sat Apr 1 22:55:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.gerp.org (caffeine.gerp.org [216.80.26.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 241D637B582 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 22:55:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kdulzo@mobile.gerp.org) Received: (qmail 88026 invoked by uid 100); 2 Apr 2000 06:55:11 -0000 Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 00:55:10 -0600 From: "Kevin M. Dulzo" To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Subject: Cross Compilation Progress Message-ID: <20000402005510.A88017@mobile.gerp.org> Reply-To: kdulzo@gerp.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, this is going to sound REALLY stupid, but I have a working sparc-elf-ld now. Building sparc-elf-gcc currently -- I know you are asking yourself, what Kevin, oh what made it work... I grok'd the m68kbinutils port and noted no patches required or other strangeness, but the use of GNU_MAKE... So, now, use gmake to build the gnu utils and it seems all should be well. -Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message