From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Jun 2 23:28:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE9537BAF0 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 23:28:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bsdx@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA35819 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 02:28:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 02:28:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam To: sparc@freebsd.org Subject: Sun mice Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Okay dont laugh... I feel addicted to mice with wheels on my pc's and I was wondering if there was any way I could get a mouse working on my sparcstation 2 with a wheel.. Thanks for any leads :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Sat Jun 3 0:12:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from caffeine.gerp.org (caffeine.gerp.org [216.80.26.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B5F237BB08 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 00:12:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kdulzo@caffeine.gerp.org) Received: (qmail 30633 invoked by uid 100); 3 Jun 2000 07:01:27 -0000 Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 02:01:26 -0500 From: "Kevin M. Dulzo" To: Adam Cc: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sun mice Message-ID: <20000603020126.A28174@caffeine.gerp.org> Reply-To: kdulzo@gerp.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from bsdx@looksharp.net on Sat, Jun 03, 2000 at 02:28:32AM -0400 X-Operating-System: OpenBSD caffeine 2.7 CAFFEINE Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You mean a mouse with a ball as opposed to an optical mouse? - then the earliest? and the latest of the sparc mice are non-optical and can be found from most workstation providers as well as ebay. I may even have a spare one around (I prefer the optical mouse). If you mean the scroll controlling wheel, I have yet to see one myself. However I know belkin? and some other KVM switch makers have sparc adapters for there KVM switches, you can try that (Expensive to just test imho) If that does work using a normal PS2 type mouse with scroll wheel, just have to configure the X on the sun box to utilize the wheel, assuming of course the KVM doesn't have to parse that info out for compat or something. Hope it helps a little, -Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Sat Jun 3 5: 0:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.monmouth.com (mail.monmouth.com [209.191.58.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00AEA37BA51 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 05:00:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pechter@bg-tc-ppp418.monmouth.com) Received: from bg-tc-ppp418.monmouth.com (bg-tc-ppp418.monmouth.com [209.191.61.167]) by mail.monmouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21842 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 08:00:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from pechter@localhost) by bg-tc-ppp418.monmouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA00511 for freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 08:01:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from pechter) From: Bill Pechter Message-Id: <200006031201.IAA00511@bg-tc-ppp418.monmouth.com> Subject: Sparc Port In-Reply-To: from freebsd-sparc-digest at "Jun 2, 2000 11:28:39 pm" To: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 08:01:14 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: bpechter@shell.monmouth.com X-Phone-Number: 732-935-0629 X-OS-Type: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 06:03:47 -0700 > From: Nick Sayer > Subject: Re: BSD/OS source code (4.1 and SMP experimental) now available. > > Just as a reminder to everyone, we do have a (completely dormant :-) ) > freebsd-sparc mailing list that I invite everyone and anyone interested > in sparc to join. > > Martin Cracauer wrote: > > > > In <3934.958710076@localhost>, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > o SPARC port > > > Already working on this: [nobody] > > > > What's the public opinion on the sparc64 vs. older issue? Is that > > meant to be be for sun4u (and upwards) machines only? Is there still > > a point to target to pre-ultra machines? > I'd like to see the port include the now orphaned Sun4c and the Sun4m machines -- since they're already supported in NetBSD and OpenBSD as well as Linux. There's a lot of companies unloading them cheaply and they make fine samba servers and DNS boxes and FreeBSD on them would be an improvement. I don't see a lot of home and small FreeBSD sites with a pile of Sun Ultras as target boxes -- but Sparc2/10/20's are getting as common at fleamarkets as 486s and P100s. Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Sat Jun 3 19:36: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from entropy.tmok.com (entropy.tmok.com [204.17.163.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E97137B585 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 19:36:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wonko@entropy.tmok.com) Received: (from wonko@localhost) by entropy.tmok.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA73326 for freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 22:43:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Hechinger Message-Id: <200006040243.WAA73326@entropy.tmok.com> Subject: FW: Sun mice (fwd) To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 22:43:12 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: wonko@entropy.tmok.com X-Useless-Header: why? because i can. X-Organization: The Ministry of Knowledge X-Dreams: an OpenWin that is based on current MIT X11 releases X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > You mean a mouse with a ball as opposed to an optical mouse? > - then the earliest? and the latest of the sparc mice are non-optical and > can be found from most workstation providers as well as ebay. I may even > have a spare one around (I prefer the optical mouse). > If you mean the scroll controlling wheel, I have yet to see one > myself. However I know belkin? and some other KVM switch makers have > sparc adapters for there KVM switches, you can try that (Expensive to > just test imho) If that does work using a normal PS2 type mouse with scroll > wheel, just have to configure the X on the sun box to utilize the wheel, > assuming of course the KVM doesn't have to parse that info out for compat > or something. > > Hope it helps a little, > -Kevin i have one of those Belkin things but i don't have a PS/2 keyboard. i'll grab a keyboard from work on monday and try it out on my SS-5 and post the results here. i'll do what i can to see if i can get the wheel working, rxvt has built in support for the wheel, but i had to put an option into the XF86Config file, but i don't know if i'll be able to get OpenWin to work with it. i would assume it should be possible since we have a sun ultra clone at work that has ps/2 connectors on it, but i never plugged a mouse with a wheel into it. hmm, i'll let you all know monday night after i get home from work. -brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Sat Jun 3 19:47:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81ED37BB09 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 19:47:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bsdx@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA45587; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 22:46:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 22:46:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam To: wonko@entropy.tmok.com Cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FW: Sun mice (fwd) In-Reply-To: <200006040243.WAA73326@entropy.tmok.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 3 Jun 2000, Brian Hechinger wrote: >i have one of those Belkin things but i don't have a PS/2 keyboard. i'll >grab a keyboard from work on monday and try it out on my SS-5 and post the >results here. i'll do what i can to see if i can get the wheel working, >rxvt has built in support for the wheel, but i had to put an option into >the XF86Config file, but i don't know if i'll be able to get OpenWin to work >with it. i would assume it should be possible since we have a sun ultra clone >at work that has ps/2 connectors on it, but i never plugged a mouse with a >wheel into it. > >hmm, i'll let you all know monday night after i get home from work. > >-brian Thanks, hmm, are they really ps/2 or just the same shape? my ss2 has ports that look similar on the back and my mouse plugs into the keyboard. This mouse only has 3 pins used, and the keyboard has 8 holes in the connector for the mouse, without a indentation that would allow a ps/2 mouse according to a $3 sample I picked up off the floor due to a protruding plastic part in the connector.. Might check if any of your sockets have room for one. I'm using X11R6 on netbsd right now and I never made a configuration file of any kind, it just worked :> So I dont even know if X would support it natively.. I recall under XFree86 I needed to add a line to XF86Config and plop some stuff in my .Xdefaults To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Sat Jun 3 20:13:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from entropy.tmok.com (entropy.tmok.com [204.17.163.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C533F37BC72 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 20:13:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wonko@entropy.tmok.com) Received: (from wonko@localhost) by entropy.tmok.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA73604; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 23:19:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Hechinger Message-Id: <200006040319.XAA73604@entropy.tmok.com> Subject: Re: FW: Sun mice (fwd) In-Reply-To: from Adam at "Jun 3, 2000 10:46:54 pm" To: bsdx@looksharp.net (Adam) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 23:19:54 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: wonko@entropy.tmok.com X-Useless-Header: why? because i can. X-Organization: The Ministry of Knowledge X-Dreams: an OpenWin that is based on current MIT X11 releases X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Adam drunkenly mumbled... > > Thanks, hmm, are they really ps/2 or just the same shape? my ss2 has > ports that look similar on the back and my mouse plugs into the > keyboard. This mouse only has 3 pins used, and the keyboard has 8 holes > in the connector for the mouse, without a indentation that would allow a > ps/2 mouse according to a $3 sample I picked up off the floor due to a > protruding plastic part in the connector.. Might check if any of your it has the sun keyboard/mouse port on the motherboard, and two ps/2 ports on one of them blank plates stealing a PCI slot. i have a ps/2 mouse and keyboard plugged into it, tried plugging a type 6 keyboard and mouse into the sun k/m port, but for some reason it didn't work. luckily, the guy who has this thing on his desk doesn't mind the ps style keyboard (i personally hate the pc style keyboard since all the keys are in the wrong place *G*) > sockets have room for one. I'm using X11R6 on netbsd right now and I > never made a configuration file of any kind, it just worked :> So I dont > even know if X would support it natively.. I recall under XFree86 I needed > to add a line to XF86Config and plop some stuff in my .Xdefaults right, which is what i did for FreeBSD on my PC at work. but i run Solaris 8 on my SS-5 at home, and i don't know if i have the ability to make OpenWin (i refuse to run CDE, i hate it) use the wheel or not. i'll know more on monday night after i try it out. cheers, -brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message