From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 27 0:47: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3919537B5D5 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 00:47:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA18455; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 00:46:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <38B8E477.1640F67E@gorean.org> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 00:46:47 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gerti-freebsds@BITart.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: inetd -l does not log References: <20000226055117.26471.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gerd Knops wrote: > > Hi, > > man inetd states: > > When given the -l option inetd will log an entry to syslog each time a > connection is accepted, noting the service selected and the IP-number of > the remote requestor if available. > > On my 3.4 stable system no such thing happens if inetd is started with the -l flag. It does happen, but by default there is nothing in syslog.conf to log the daemon facility. That's where it logs if you just just the -l flag. If you use either of the -w/W flags it logs to the auth facility. Someone was supposed to have added a note to the man page to this effect... Hope this helps, Doug -- "Welcome to the desert of the real." - Laurence Fishburne as Morpheus, "The Matrix" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 27 1:26:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from camelot.bitart.com (camelot.BITart.com [206.103.221.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C19E37B53A for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 01:26:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gerti@bitart.com) Received: (qmail 782 invoked by uid 101); 27 Feb 2000 09:26:27 -0000 Message-ID: <20000227092627.781.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <38B8E477.1640F67E@gorean.org> X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach (Enhance 2.2p1) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: Gerd Knops Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 03:26:26 -0600 To: Doug Barton Subject: Re: inetd -l does not log Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: gerti-freebsds@BITart.com References: <20000226055117.26471.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> <38B8E477.1640F67E@gorean.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug Barton wrote: > Gerd Knops wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > man inetd states: > > > > When given the -l option inetd will log an entry to syslog each time a > > connection is accepted, noting the service selected and the IP-number of > > the remote requestor if available. > > > > On my 3.4 stable system no such thing happens if inetd is started with the -l flag. > > It does happen, but by default there is nothing in syslog.conf to log > the daemon facility. That's where it logs if you just just the -l flag. > If you use either of the -w/W flags it logs to the auth facility. > > Someone was supposed to have added a note to the man page to this > effect... > I know that. syslog.conf contains: !inetd *.* /dev/console and rc.conf: inetd_flags="-w -W" Still only failed login attempts are logged (I assume by the inetd internal tcp-wrapper code). Gerd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 27 5:39:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sanson.reyes.somos.net (freyes.static.inch.com [216.223.199.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4539137B58C for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 05:39:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Received: from tomasa (tomasa.reyes.somos.net [10.0.0.11]) by sanson.reyes.somos.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA14157; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:33:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Message-Id: <200002271333.IAA14157@sanson.reyes.somos.net> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "Doug Barton" Cc: "FreeBSD Stable List" Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:38:49 -0500 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 98 (4.10.2222) In-Reply-To: <38B8D751.46D842C6@gorean.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Does sendmail.cf gets replaced by stable? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 26 Feb 2000 23:50:41 -0800, Doug Barton wrote: >Francisco Reyes wrote: >> >> Does the /etc/sendmail.cf gets replaced by stable? > > Not sure what you mean by "replaced by stable." It does not get >replaced in a make/build world. Apparently that is not the case. According to another email I got builds a sendmail.cf from /usr/src/etc/sendmail/freebsd.mc and installs it. There seems to be a parameter in /etc/rc.conf where one can indicate which ".mc" file to use at make world. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 27 9:29: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84EA237B661 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 09:28:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mw@theatre.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id SAA15842; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:28:45 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mw@localhost) by theatre.lan (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA20116; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:32:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mw) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:32:43 +0100 From: Martin Welk To: Francisco Reyes Cc: Doug Barton , FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: Does sendmail.cf gets replaced by stable? Message-ID: <20000227153243.A19813@theatre.lan> References: <38B8D751.46D842C6@gorean.org> <200002271333.IAA14157@sanson.reyes.somos.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200002271333.IAA14157@sanson.reyes.somos.net>; from fran@reyes.somos.net on Sat, Feb 26, 2000 at 08:38:49PM -0500 Organization: Private UUCP/Usenet site. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Feb 26, 2000 at 08:38:49PM -0500, Francisco Reyes wrote: > Apparently that is not the case. As we are on the -stable list, I speak for stable: I did a cvsup yesterday to and today made buildworld and installworld and my /etc/sendmail.cf wasn't replaced by one of those procedures and I haven't configured something special. (And I haven't seen something like that for more than three years now - I have seen sendmail's barking update cf files that were to new because I forgot to disable building and installing sendmail during making the world and I had updated it meanwhile, but no change of the cf file itself.) > According to another email I got builds a sendmail.cf from > /usr/src/etc/sendmail/freebsd.mc and installs it. Maybe, it's something different in -current. > There seems to be a parameter in /etc/rc.conf where one can > indicate which ".mc" file to use at make world. Huh? Sendmail doesn't eat a plain .mc file so it cannot be a runtime option. Sendmail needs a "compiled" (or hand-written :-) ) cf file. Same game, perhaps it has changed in -current, as there is also a wrapper for dealing with other default MTAs then sendmail and sendmail configuration files move to /etc/mail, IIRR. Regards, Martin -- ,,Oh, there's a lot of opportunities, if you're knowing to take them, you know, there's a lot of opportunities, if there aren't you can make them, make or break them!'' (Tennant/Lowe) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 27 11:23: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from prserv.net (out1.prserv.net [32.97.166.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18ABA37C3CE for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:23:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jsachs@iclick.com) Received: from iclick.com ([166.72.10.108]) by prserv.net (out1) with SMTP id <2000022719225925202f7io4e>; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 19:23:00 +0000 Message-ID: <38B97873.F261E40@iclick.com> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 14:18:11 -0500 From: Jay Sachs Organization: iClick, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Welk Cc: Francisco Reyes , Doug Barton , FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: Does sendmail.cf gets replaced by stable? References: <38B8D751.46D842C6@gorean.org> <200002271333.IAA14157@sanson.reyes.somos.net> <20000227153243.A19813@theatre.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Martin Welk wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 26, 2000 at 08:38:49PM -0500, Francisco Reyes wrote: > > > Apparently that is not the case. > > As we are on the -stable list, I speak for stable: I did a cvsup yesterday > to and today made buildworld and installworld and my /etc/sendmail.cf > wasn't replaced by one of those procedures and I haven't configured > something special. (And I haven't seen something like that for more than > three years now - I have seen sendmail's barking update cf files that were > to new because I forgot to disable building and installing sendmail during > making the world and I had updated it meanwhile, but no change of the cf > file itself.) > > > According to another email I got builds a sendmail.cf from > > /usr/src/etc/sendmail/freebsd.mc and installs it. > > Maybe, it's something different in -current. It's in stable. sendmail.cf is built, just not installed. Unless you ask mergemaster to do it for you. > > There seems to be a parameter in /etc/rc.conf where one can > > indicate which ".mc" file to use at make world. > > Huh? Sendmail doesn't eat a plain .mc file so it cannot be a runtime > option. Sendmail needs a "compiled" (or hand-written :-) ) cf file. It appears (though I haven't tested it), that defining SENDMAIL_CF in /etc/make.conf controls which .cf gets built, and subsequently installed by mergemaster. Look at /usr/src/etc/sendmail/Makefile. jay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 27 12: 9:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 61F4F37B670 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 12:09:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 27 Feb 2000 20:09:25 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:09:25 +0000 From: David Malone To: gerti-freebsds@bitart.com Cc: Doug Barton , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: inetd -l does not log Message-ID: <20000227200925.A16860@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <20000226055117.26471.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> <38B8E477.1640F67E@gorean.org> <20000227092627.781.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000227092627.781.qmail@camelot.bitart.com>; from gerti@bitart.com on Sun, Feb 27, 2000 at 03:26:26AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Feb 27, 2000 at 03:26:26AM -0600, Gerd Knops wrote: > Still only failed login attempts are logged (I assume by the inetd > internal tcp-wrapper code). Logins aren't delt with by inetd at all, unless you mean rejected connections. Did I misunderstand you - I thought you were seeing messages logged, but with the hostname instead of the IP address? (Note, for stream wait services it is not possible for inetd to determine the connecting address so it can't be logged). David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 27 12:57:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ramstind.gtf.ol.no (ramstind.gtf.ol.no [128.39.174.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4235837B68F for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 12:57:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by ramstind.gtf.ol.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA77572; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 21:57:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 21:57:35 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= To: "Adam D. Marks" Cc: FreeBSD stable Subject: Re: printer question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1896663243-951685055=:76101" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1896663243-951685055=:76101 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, Adam D. Marks wrote: > Has anyone had any luck printing to a remote printer using jetdirect. I > have a HP 2100 on a JetDirect EX Plus 3. The closest I got is with using > rlpr but the format that is printed is messed up. At our site we use the following entries in /etc/printcap: printer-name|printer-alias1|printer-alias2|full name:\ :if=/usr/local/libexec/nyif-for-ps-og-pcl:\ :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :mx#0:\ :rm=printer-name:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/printer-name:\ :sf: :sh: /etc/hosts contains the name-to-IP translation of the printer names in the rm capability. I have created an input filter, somewhat inspired by printtool on Red Hat, that we use at our site. This input filter first check to see if the file to be printed is compressed in some way by using file(1), if so then the input filter attempts to decompress the file. If the file was indeed decompressed, the input filter runs file(1) again to see what format the data might be in now. Next the input filter tries to determine how to convert the file into PCL or PS. This is accomplished by a case-esac construction. So far my input filter can convert bmp, gif, jpeg, tiff, sun raster, pnm (i.e. pgm, pbm, ppm), pdf, dvi, fig, and troff to PS. Data which is already in PS or PCL format is passed unprocessed to the printers since, our site have printers that understand both PCL and PS. Data that appears to be plain text in sent to printer, after the printer has received an initialization string. Last the printer receives a reset command. I have, however, created a similar inputfilter which converts any PS output (including PS output generated by the input filter) to PCL for printers that don't understand PS. Unfortunately all the comments and debug messages in my input filters are in Norwegian, but I'll translate to English anything that isn't clear. Attached you'll find nyif-for-ps-og-pcl which is the input filter for both PS and PCL capable printers, and nyif-for-pcl which is the inputfilter for PCL only printers. 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(PST) (envelope-from gerti@bitart.com) Received: (qmail 3358 invoked by uid 101); 27 Feb 2000 22:18:06 -0000 Message-ID: <20000227221806.3357.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) In-Reply-To: <20000227200925.A16860@walton.maths.tcd.ie> X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach (Enhance 2.2p1) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: Gerd Knops Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 16:18:06 -0600 To: David Malone Subject: Re: inetd -l does not log Cc: Doug Barton , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: gerti-freebsds@bitart.com References: <20000226055117.26471.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> <38B8E477.1640F67E@gorean.org> <20000227092627.781.qmail@camelot.bitart.com> <20000227200925.A16860@walton.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Malone wrote: > On Sun, Feb 27, 2000 at 03:26:26AM -0600, Gerd Knops wrote: > > > Still only failed login attempts are logged (I assume by the inetd > > internal tcp-wrapper code). > > Logins aren't delt with by inetd at all, unless you mean rejected > connections. > > Did I misunderstand you - I thought you were seeing messages logged, > but with the hostname instead of the IP address? (Note, for stream > wait services it is not possible for inetd to determine the connecting > address so it can't be logged). > Actually I was trying to get more info about inbound smtp connections. I couldn't get inetd to log anything at all. I did some more checking, apparently the !inetd part in syslogd didn't work, which is odd since I have a number of other services listed that way and it works fine. Gerd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 27 16: 1:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zipcode.corp.home.net (zipcode.corp.home.net [24.0.26.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C232037B75E for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 16:01:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from manek@ecst.csuchico.edu) Received: from after (shiva-user8.corp.home.net [24.0.8.138]) by zipcode.corp.home.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA19728 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 16:01:01 -0800 (PST) From: "Sameer R. Manek" To: Subject: Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 16:01:47 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've noticed that when I use ppp -nat, on my 56k modem, the load average of the system seems to be a bit go high, when I ftp files across it. The cpu (PII 400) is more then sufficiently powered to handle nat and ppp over a modem. Nor is system paging to swap. Anyone else noticed similar load averages? Top doesn't seem to provide any evidence of ppp, being stuck in a busy loop. hardknocks:~>uptime;uname -a 3:10PM up 7 days, 47 mins, 2 users, load averages: 0.85, 0.79, 0.76 FreeBSD hardknocks.school.org 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE #1: Sun Feb 20 03:20:00 PST 2000 manek@hardknocks.school.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/Hardknocks i386 last pid: 45746; load averages: 0.86, 0.84, 0.78 up 7+00:18:23 14:41:45 36 processes: 1 running, 33 sleeping, 2 stopped CPU states: 1.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.5% system, 0.0% interrupt, 98.5% idle Mem: 14M Active, 85M Inact, 18M Wired, 6220K Cache, 8349K Buf, 616K Free Swap: 512M Total, 512M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 45746 manek 28 0 1576K 792K RUN 0:00 1.54% 0.15% top 45687 root 2 0 1484K 1024K select 0:27 0.00% 0.00% ppp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 27 17:26:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lucky.endpage.com (134-89-127-216.ip.sirius.com [216.127.89.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E8B637B76C for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:26:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from messmer@endpage.com) Received: from localhost (messmer@localhost) by lucky.endpage.com (8.9.3/6.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA01214 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:27:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from messmer@endpage.com) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:27:44 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Messmer To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: subscribe to list Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey! Subscribe me will ya? Thanks. Tom "Our minds are like crows, they pick up everything that glitters, no matter how uncomfortable our nests get with all that metal in them." -Thomas Merton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 27 17:36:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from paprika.michvhf.com (paprika.michvhf.com [209.57.60.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 870BD37B61E for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:36:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vev@michvhf.com) Received: (qmail 2049 invoked by uid 1001); 28 Feb 2000 01:36:14 -0000 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:36:14 -0500 (EST) From: Vince Vielhaber To: "Adam D. Marks" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: printer question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, Adam D. Marks wrote: > Has anyone had any luck printing to a remote printer using jetdirect. I > have a HP 2100 on a JetDirect EX Plus 3. The closest I got is with using > rlpr but the format that is printed is messed up. I'm using LPRng and printing to port 9100 (I think) on the printer. Works quite well on a number of different printer models. IIRC there's a couple of examples in the LPRng docs and they give the correct port number if I guessed wrong. Vince. -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com http://www.pop4.net 128K ISDN: $24.95/mo or less - 56K Dialup: $17.95/mo or less at Pop4 Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com ========================================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 27 18:43:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.twave.net (twave.net [206.100.228.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F4A637B7AF for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:43:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brameld@twave.net) Received: from [208.219.234.37] by mail.twave.net (NTMail 3.03.0018/1.abwg) with ESMTP id ia822804 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 21:42:27 -0500 Received: from Bozo_3.BozoLand.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Bozo_3.BozoLand.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA03057; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 21:43:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from brameld@twave.net) From: Walter Brameld To: Tom Messmer , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: subscribe to list Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 21:42:23 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00022721433601.03042@Bozo_3.BozoLand.domain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 27 Feb 2000, in a never-ending search for enlightenment, Tom Messmer wrote: > Hey! Subscribe me will ya? Thanks. > Tom > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL *sigh* -- Walter Brameld in·tel·lec·tu·al n. Someone who has been educated past his/her level of intelligence. Join the Army, meet interesting people, kill them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 27 18:53:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tesla.salk.edu (tesla.salk.edu [198.202.70.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D8B37B7A0 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:53:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jorge@salk.edu) Received: from phelps.salk.edu (phelps.salk.edu [198.202.70.123]) by tesla.salk.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA15967; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:53:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:50:27 -0800 (PST) From: Jorge Aldana Reply-To: Jorge Aldana To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: Jorge Aldana Subject: Gnome Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When I attempt to make the port gnome on a 3.4-20000124-STABLE machine I keep getting the following, I also tried "make -D FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" with the same error on imlib. I have seen questons posted but never any solid reponse on how to fix this has anyone solved this problem with "make" on gnome? I also make imlib by hand yet gnome gets the same error. /usr/ports/x11/gnome>make ===> Extracting for gnome-1.0.53 >> No MD5 checksum file. ===> gnome-1.0.53 depends on shared library: glib12.3 - found ===> gnome-1.0.53 depends on shared library: gtk12.2 - found ===> gnome-1.0.53 depends on shared library: ORBit.2 - found ===> gnome-1.0.53 depends on shared library: Imlib.5 - found ===> gnome-1.0.53 depends on shared library: audiofile.0 - found ===> gnome-1.0.53 depends on shared library: esd.2 - found ===> gnome-1.0.53 depends on shared library: gnome.3 - not found ===> Verifying install for gnome.3 in /usr/ports/x11/gnomelibs ===> Extracting for gnomelibs-1.0.55 >> Checksum OK for gnome-libs-1.0.55.tar.gz. ===> gnomelibs-1.0.55 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> gnomelibs-1.0.55 depends on executable: libtool - found ===> gnomelibs-1.0.55 depends on shared library: gdk_imlib.5 - not found ===> Verifying install for gdk_imlib.5 in /usr/ports/graphics/imlib ===> Returning to build of gnomelibs-1.0.55 Error: shared library "gdk_imlib.5" does not exist *** Error code 1 Stop. Here's the gnomelib error when made by it themself: make -D FORCE_PKG_REGISTER ===> Extracting for gnomelibs-1.0.55 >> Checksum OK for gnome-libs-1.0.55.tar.gz. ===> gnomelibs-1.0.55 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> gnomelibs-1.0.55 depends on executable: libtool - found ===> gnomelibs-1.0.55 depends on shared library: gdk_imlib.5 - not found ===> Verifying install for gdk_imlib.5 in /usr/ports/graphics/imlib ===> Installing for imlib-1.9.8 ===> imlib-1.9.8 depends on shared library: png.3 - found ===> imlib-1.9.8 depends on shared library: jpeg.9 - found ===> imlib-1.9.8 depends on shared library: tiff.4 - found ===> imlib-1.9.8 depends on shared library: gif.5 - found ===> imlib-1.9.8 depends on shared library: gtk12.2 - found ===> imlib-1.9.8 depends on shared library: X11.6 - found Making install in Imlib gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8/Imlib' gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8/Imlib' /bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs /usr/X11R6/lib /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool --mode=install /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g wheel libImlib.la /usr/X11R6/lib/libImlib.la /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g wheel .libs/libImlib.so.5 /usr/X11R6/lib/libImlib.so.5 (cd /usr/X11R6/lib && rm -f libImlib.so && ln -s libImlib.so.5 libImlib.so) /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g wheel .libs/libImlib.lai /usr/X11R6/lib/libImlib.la /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g wheel .libs/libImlib.a /usr/X11R6/lib/libImlib.a ranlib /usr/X11R6/lib/libImlib.a chmod 644 /usr/X11R6/lib/libImlib.a /usr/bin/env OBJFORMAT="elf" /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/X11R6/lib ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Libraries have been installed in: /usr/X11R6/lib If you ever happen to want to link against installed libraries in a given directory, LIBDIR, you must either use libtool, and specify the full pathname of the library, or use `-LLIBDIR' flag during linking and do at least one of the following: - add LIBDIR to the `LD_LIBRARY_PATH' environment variable during execution - add LIBDIR to the `LD_RUN_PATH' environment variable during linking - use the `-Wl,--rpath -Wl,LIBDIR' linker flag See any operating system documentation about shared libraries for more information, such as the ld(1) and ld.so(8) manual pages. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- /bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs /usr/X11R6/include install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 Imlib.h /usr/X11R6/include/Imlib.h install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 Imlib_private.h /usr/X11R6/include/Imlib_private.h install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 Imlib_types.h /usr/X11R6/include/Imlib_types.h gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8/Imlib' gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8/Imlib' Making install in config gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8/config' gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8/config' /bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs /usr/X11R6/etc/imlib install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 ./imrc /usr/X11R6/etc/imlib/imrc install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 ./im_palette.pal install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 ./im_palette-small.pal /usr/X11R6/etc/imlib/im_palette-small.pal install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 ./im_palette-tiny.pal /usr/X11R6/etc/imlib/im_palette-tiny.pal gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'. gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8/config' gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8/config' Making install in doc gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8/doc' gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8/doc' gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'. gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'. gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8/doc' gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8/doc' gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8' gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8' /bin/sh ./mkinstalldirs /usr/X11R6/bin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555 imlib-config /usr/X11R6/bin/imlib-config /bin/sh ./mkinstalldirs /usr/X11R6/share/aclocal install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 ./imlib.m4 /usr/X11R6/share/aclocal/imlib.m4 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8' gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8' ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Registering installation for imlib-1.9.8 ===> Returning to build of gnomelibs-1.0.55 Error: shared library "gdk_imlib.5" does not exist *** Error code 1 Stop. Thanks, Jorge To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 27 19:32:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu (sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu [129.79.137.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1C737B7CE for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 19:32:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mikes@sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu) Received: (from mikes@localhost) by sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA72709 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:32:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mikes) From: Mike Squires Message-Id: <200002280332.WAA72709@sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu> Subject: Re: disk repair on SunOS (fwd) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:32:07 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Forwarded message from Rahul Dhesi ----- From dhesi@rahul.net Sun Feb 27 22:20:52 2000 Received: from waltz.rahul.net (postfix@waltz.rahul.net [192.160.13.9]) by sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA72553 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:20:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dhesi@rahul.net) Received: by waltz.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 104) id 3C6D199E06; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 19:20:49 -0800 (PST) To: Mike Squires Subject: Re: disk repair on SunOS In-reply-to: Message from Mike Squires of Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:04:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 100 19:20:48 -0800 From: Rahul Dhesi Message-Id: <20000228032049.3C6D199E06@waltz.rahul.net> Thanks. I hope you will cc freebsd-stable@freebsd.org so others may benefit from your comments. Rahul > Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:04:22 -0500 (EST) > From: Mike Squires > To: Rahul Dhesi > Message-Id: <200002270204.VAA46836@sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu> > Subject: Re: disk repair on SunOS > > - Could FreeBSD do it too? > > > > bad144(?) does something similar but if I remember correctly the partition > has to be set up with bad144 in mind. > > I have source to a FBSD 1.x version which scans a disk for bad blocks and > then maps them to the backup blocks; necessary with an old ESDI disk. > > This adds an "s" option for scanning. > > With a SCSI disk it should be able to write a program which accesses the > disk controller and causes it to use one of its spare blocks for the bad > block. I suspect that there might be such utilities that ran under some > other OS (like the old Adaptec SCSICNTL or the newer EZ-SCSI) > which might do this. > > You can also use a bit copy program to > (1) back up the disk to a file (2) low level format (3) restore > the disk (much more tedious). > > I've done this in our environment to replace a disk in a RAID 0 stripe set > by using Ghost (Norton) to create an image of a disk (running under MS-DOS > with network drivers) on a server, then replace the drive, low level format, > and then copy the image back. I assume dd would also work, but I didn't > have time to experiment. > > Mike Squires ----- End of forwarded message from Rahul Dhesi ----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 27 20: 5:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280DA37B790; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:05:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA86603; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:05:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:05:52 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Jorge Aldana Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gnome In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 27 Feb 2000, Jorge Aldana wrote: > When I attempt to make the port gnome on a 3.4-20000124-STABLE machine I > keep getting the following, I also tried "make -D FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" with > the same error on imlib. I have seen questons posted but never any solid > reponse on how to fix this has anyone solved this problem with "make" on > gnome? I also make imlib by hand yet gnome gets the same error. 1) Ports problems should go to freebsd-ports where the ports crew hang out, as well as the maintainer of the port you're having problems with. 2) The second build log you posted is consistent with having an old compiled version of the imlib port in /usr/ports/graphics/imlib, i.e. the new one is not being compiled, it just skips straight to the 'install' phase. Do a 'make clean' and see if it changes. Kris > ===> gnomelibs-1.0.55 depends on shared library: gdk_imlib.5 - not found > ===> Verifying install for gdk_imlib.5 in /usr/ports/graphics/imlib > ===> Installing for imlib-1.9.8 > ===> imlib-1.9.8 depends on shared library: png.3 - found > ===> imlib-1.9.8 depends on shared library: jpeg.9 - found > ===> imlib-1.9.8 depends on shared library: tiff.4 - found > ===> imlib-1.9.8 depends on shared library: gif.5 - found > ===> imlib-1.9.8 depends on shared library: gtk12.2 - found > ===> imlib-1.9.8 depends on shared library: X11.6 - found > Making install in Imlib > gmake[1]: Entering directory > `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8/Imlib' > gmake[2]: Entering directory > `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8/Imlib' > /bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs /usr/X11R6/lib > /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool --mode=install /usr/bin/install -c -o root > -g wheel libImlib.la /usr/X11R6/lib/libImlib.la > /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g wheel .libs/libImlib.so.5 > /usr/X11R6/lib/libImlib.so.5 > (cd /usr/X11R6/lib && rm -f libImlib.so && ln -s libImlib.so.5 > libImlib.so) > /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g wheel .libs/libImlib.lai > /usr/X11R6/lib/libImlib.la > /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g wheel .libs/libImlib.a > /usr/X11R6/lib/libImlib.a > ranlib /usr/X11R6/lib/libImlib.a > chmod 644 /usr/X11R6/lib/libImlib.a > /usr/bin/env OBJFORMAT="elf" /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/X11R6/lib > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Libraries have been installed in: > /usr/X11R6/lib > > If you ever happen to want to link against installed libraries > in a given directory, LIBDIR, you must either use libtool, and > specify the full pathname of the library, or use `-LLIBDIR' > flag during linking and do at least one of the following: > - add LIBDIR to the `LD_LIBRARY_PATH' environment variable > during execution > - add LIBDIR to the `LD_RUN_PATH' environment variable > during linking > - use the `-Wl,--rpath -Wl,LIBDIR' linker flag > > See any operating system documentation about shared libraries for > more information, such as the ld(1) and ld.so(8) manual pages. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > /bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs /usr/X11R6/include > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 Imlib.h /usr/X11R6/include/Imlib.h > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 Imlib_private.h > /usr/X11R6/include/Imlib_private.h > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 Imlib_types.h > /usr/X11R6/include/Imlib_types.h > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8/Imlib' > gmake[1]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8/Imlib' > Making install in config > gmake[1]: Entering directory > `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8/config' > gmake[2]: Entering directory > `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8/config' > /bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs /usr/X11R6/etc/imlib > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 ./imrc /usr/X11R6/etc/imlib/imrc > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 ./im_palette.pal > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 ./im_palette-small.pal > /usr/X11R6/etc/imlib/im_palette-small.pal > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 ./im_palette-tiny.pal > /usr/X11R6/etc/imlib/im_palette-tiny.pal > gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'. > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8/config' > gmake[1]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8/config' > Making install in doc > gmake[1]: Entering directory > `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8/doc' > gmake[2]: Entering directory > `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8/doc' > gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'. > gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'. > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8/doc' > gmake[1]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8/doc' > gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8' > gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8' > /bin/sh ./mkinstalldirs /usr/X11R6/bin > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555 imlib-config > /usr/X11R6/bin/imlib-config > /bin/sh ./mkinstalldirs /usr/X11R6/share/aclocal > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 ./imlib.m4 > /usr/X11R6/share/aclocal/imlib.m4 > gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8' > gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/imlib/work/imlib-1.9.8' > ===> Generating temporary packing list > ===> Registering installation for imlib-1.9.8 > ===> Returning to build of gnomelibs-1.0.55 > Error: shared library "gdk_imlib.5" does not exist > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > Thanks, > > Jorge > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > ---- "How many roads must a man walk down, before you call him a man?" "Eight!" "That was a rhetorical question!" "Oh..then, seven!" -- Homer Simpson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 27 20:19: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.twave.net (twave.net [206.100.228.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EBCEB37B7CE for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:18:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brameld@twave.net) Received: from [208.219.234.37] by mail.twave.net (NTMail 3.03.0018/1.abwg) with ESMTP id ba824539 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 23:17:36 -0500 Received: from Bozo_3.BozoLand.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Bozo_3.BozoLand.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA52997; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 23:16:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from brameld@twave.net) From: Walter Brameld To: Jorge Aldana , Jorge Aldana , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gnome Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 23:15:17 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: Jorge Aldana References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00022723165400.03291@Bozo_3.BozoLand.domain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 27 Feb 2000, in a never-ending search for enlightenment, Jorge Aldana wrote: > When I attempt to make the port gnome on a 3.4-20000124-STABLE machine I > keep getting the following, I also tried "make -D FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" with > the same error on imlib. I have seen questons posted but never any solid > reponse on how to fix this has anyone solved this problem with "make" on > gnome? I also make imlib by hand yet gnome gets the same error. > > /usr/ports/x11/gnome>make > ===> Extracting for gnome-1.0.53 > >> No MD5 checksum file. > ===> gnome-1.0.53 depends on shared library: glib12.3 - found > ===> gnome-1.0.53 depends on shared library: gtk12.2 - found > ===> gnome-1.0.53 depends on shared library: ORBit.2 - found > ===> gnome-1.0.53 depends on shared library: Imlib.5 - found > ===> gnome-1.0.53 depends on shared library: audiofile.0 - found > ===> gnome-1.0.53 depends on shared library: esd.2 - found > ===> gnome-1.0.53 depends on shared library: gnome.3 - not found > ===> Verifying install for gnome.3 in /usr/ports/x11/gnomelibs > ===> Extracting for gnomelibs-1.0.55 > >> Checksum OK for gnome-libs-1.0.55.tar.gz. > ===> gnomelibs-1.0.55 depends on executable: gmake - found > ===> gnomelibs-1.0.55 depends on executable: libtool - found > ===> gnomelibs-1.0.55 depends on shared library: gdk_imlib.5 - not found > ===> Verifying install for gdk_imlib.5 in /usr/ports/graphics/imlib > ===> Returning to build of gnomelibs-1.0.55 > Error: shared library "gdk_imlib.5" does not exist > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > I saw the other reply you received, just wanted to mention you may want to do a cvsup on your ports collection also, as my make gnome downloads gnome-libs-1.0.56.tar.gz. -- Walter Brameld in·tel·lec·tu·al n. Someone who has been educated past his/her level of intelligence. Join the Army, meet interesting people, kill them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 28 2:52:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE2637B73A; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 02:52:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id CAA21260; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 02:52:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 02:52:56 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200002281052.CAA21260@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Cc: imp@village.org, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Subject: HEADS UP: a small change to pccardd(8) behaviour in -STABLE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Folks, pccardd(8) in -stable will now read the entire card description string from a PCMCIA card instead of the earlier limit of 29 characters, just as it does in -current. Consequently, card descriptions in "/etc/pccard.conf" don't now need to be artificially truncated. I was able to find two such truncated entries, comparing the -current and -stable versions of "/usr/src/etc/pccard.conf.sample": card "3Com" "3C574-TX Fast EtherLink PC Ca" card "Linksys" "Combo PCMCIA EthernetCard (EC" which get corrected to: card "3Com" "3C574-TX Fast EtherLink PC Card" card "Linksys" "Combo PCMCIA EthernetCard (EC2T)" Please let me know if any other entries need to be similarly expanded. Regards, Koshy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 28 5:18:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C8E637B70C for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 05:18:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhesi@rahul.net) Received: from bolero.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA14502 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 28 Feb 2000 05:18:32 -0800 Received: from q.bolero.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by bolero.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 63A783FF09 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 05:18:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 14498 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2000 13:18:31 -0000 Received: from waltz.rahul.net (192.160.13.9) by bolero.rahul.net with SMTP; 28 Feb 2000 13:18:31 -0000 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: divert(4) non-working code example Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 05:18:29 -0800 From: Rahul Dhesi Message-Id: <20000228131831.63A783FF09@bolero.rahul.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The following is a relatively simple program that should read and write divert-ed packets, without modifying them. But it never returns from the recvfrom() system call. Any suggestions? An extensive web search appears to indicate that only one existing program, i.e., natd(8), uses divert(4). I found no other examples of anybody using divert(4). Rahul -- cut here -- /* TEST PROGRAM TO SEE IF divert(4) will work */ /* FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE. Kernel currently include options DUMMYNET, IPDIVERT, IPFIREWALL, and IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT. This code is based on information from the divert(4) man page and also after examining the natd(8) source code. To test: cc -o testdivert testdivert.c ./testdivert >& Log & ipfw add 1 divert 22222 all from 0.0.0.0/0 to xx.xx.xx.xx/32 where xx.xx.xx.xx is the IP address of some other host. Now ping xx.xx.xx.xx. Each ping packet should result in an entry being made into the file 'Log'. But in fact I see no output into 'Log' and no traffic to xx.xx.xx.xx gets through. Tracing with ktrace shows that testdivert is waiting for recvfrom() to return. */ #include #include #include #include #include #include #include /* required by netinet/ip.h */ #include /* to define IP_MAXPACKET */ #include /* big enough to hold a network packet */ #define SZ_PACKET IP_MAXPACKET static char *myname = "testdivert"; int main(int argc, char **argv) { unsigned port = 22222; int socket_fd = -1; char packetbuf[SZ_PACKET]; struct sockaddr_in addr; /* make the socket */ socket_fd = socket(PF_INET, SOCK_RAW, IPPROTO_DIVERT); if (socket_fd == -1) { (void) fprintf(stderr, "%s: error: can't make socket: %s\n", myname, strerror(errno)); exit(1); } addr.sin_family = AF_INET; addr.sin_addr.s_addr = htonl(INADDR_ANY); /* will be ignored by bind() */ addr.sin_port = port; if (bind(socket_fd, (struct sockaddr *) &addr, sizeof addr) == -1) { (void) fprintf(stderr, "%s: error: can't bind socket to port %u: %s\n", myname, port, strerror(errno)); exit(1); } (void) fprintf(stdout, "%s: note: socket_fd is %d, port is %d\n", myname, socket_fd, port); /* make output unbufferd so we can print status dots */ (void) setbuf(stdout, (char *) NULL); /* go into read/write loop */ for ( ; ; ) { int incount; int addrlen; addrlen = sizeof addr; incount = recvfrom(socket_fd, packetbuf, sizeof packetbuf, 0, (struct sockaddr *) &addr, &addrlen); if (incount >= 0) { int sendstatus; (void) fprintf(stdout, "<"); /* < means got a packet */ sendstatus = sendto(socket_fd, packetbuf, incount, 0, (struct sockaddr *) &addr, sizeof addr); if (sendstatus != -1) { (void) fprintf(stdout, ">"); /* > means sent a packet */ } else { (void) fprintf(stdout, "?"); /* ? = send error */ } } else { (void) fprintf(stdout, "."); /* . = receive error */ } } /*NOTREACHED*/ return 0; } -- cut here -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 28 6: 5: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from waltz.rahul.net (waltz.rahul.net [192.160.13.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8302D37B673 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 06:04:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhesi@rahul.net) Received: by waltz.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 104) id 4471C99DE4; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 06:04:50 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: divert(4) non-working code example Date: Mon, 28 Feb 100 06:04:49 -0800 From: Rahul Dhesi Message-Id: <20000228140450.4471C99DE4@waltz.rahul.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I wrote: > The following is a relatively simple program that should read and write > divert-ed packets, without modifying them. But it never returns from the > recvfrom() system call. Any suggestions? Never mind! I searched old mailing list archives and found that I needed to do htons(port). What threw me off was that I was consulting the natd(8) sources and they didn't bother doing so. Rahul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 28 6: 7:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from unix.sim.com.pl (unix.sim.com.pl [195.117.85.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48C637B73F for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 06:07:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gawel@sim.com.pl) Received: from sim.com.pl (pawel [192.168.1.20]) by unix.sim.com.pl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA63556 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:59:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gawel@sim.com.pl) Message-ID: <38BA81C7.E7FA0940@sim.com.pl> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:10:15 +0100 From: Gawel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: make fetch + dependencies Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, How to make fetch a single port with all dependencies? (only download a port and and all dependencies ports) Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 28 6:50:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (UCB-Async4-CRISCO.CRIS.NET [212.110.129.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1E837B875 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 06:50:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id QAA12460; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:50:05 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:50:05 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Rahul Dhesi Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: divert(4) non-working code example Message-ID: <20000228165005.A7247@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Rahul Dhesi , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000228140450.4471C99DE4@waltz.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <20000228140450.4471C99DE4@waltz.rahul.net>; from Rahul Dhesi on Mon, Feb 28, 2000 at 06:04:49AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Feb 28, 2000 at 06:04:49AM -0800, Rahul Dhesi wrote: > I wrote: > > > The following is a relatively simple program that should read and write > > divert-ed packets, without modifying them. But it never returns from the > > recvfrom() system call. Any suggestions? > > Never mind! I searched old mailing list archives and found that > I needed to do htons(port). What threw me off was that I was > consulting the natd(8) sources and they didn't bother doing so. > Why do you spread such misinformation? See StrToPort() function in natd(8) sources. -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 28 8: 4:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from account.abs.net (account.abs.net [207.114.5.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B41437B87C for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:04:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from howardl@account.abs.net) Received: (from howardl@localhost) by account.abs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3+RBL+DUL+RSS+ORBS) id LAA04593 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:04:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from howardl) From: Howard Leadmon Message-Id: <200002281604.LAA04593@account.abs.net> Subject: WD Driver Errors?? To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:04:14 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL72 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I loaded a new FBSD 3.4 server up a week or so back, and sadly enough have have several lockups and crashes. When looking at the syslog info I have seen a few of the following errors: Feb 28 09:49:53 u2 /kernel: wd2: interrupt timeout (status 58 error 0) Feb 28 09:49:53 u2 /kernel: wd2: wdtimeout() DMA status 4 Can anyone tell me specifically what this is telling me?? It's a brand new HD, and I am wondering if something is wrong with it. Any help with tracking this down would be appreciated. FYI, this is the most current version of 3.4 STABLE as pulled via CVS yesterday.. --- Howard Leadmon - howardl@abs.net - http://www.abs.net ABSnet Internet Services - Phone: 410-361-8160 - FAX: 410-361-8162 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 28 8:10:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vinyl.sentex.ca (vinyl.sentex.ca [209.112.4.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A008137B8D5 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:10:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.ca) Received: from simoeon (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by vinyl.sentex.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA15235; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:10:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.ca) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000228110758.014329a0@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:07:58 -0500 To: Howard Leadmon , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: WD Driver Errors?? In-Reply-To: <200002281604.LAA04593@account.abs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:04 AM 2/28/00 -0500, Howard Leadmon wrote: > > Can anyone tell me specifically what this is telling me?? It's a brand new >HD, and I am wondering if something is wrong with it. Any help with tracking >this down would be appreciated. FYI, this is the most current version of 3.4 >STABLE as pulled via CVS yesterday.. What flags are you using in your kernel for the controller ? Also, post a dmesg to the list detailing the hardware you are using (e.g. dmesg | grep wd) ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 28 8:13:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.twave.net (twave.net [206.100.228.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E6BB37B8CE for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:13:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brameld@twave.net) Received: from [208.219.234.25] by mail.twave.net (NTMail 3.03.0018/1.abwg) with ESMTP id ga831538 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:12:20 -0500 Received: from Bozo_3.BozoLand.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Bozo_3.BozoLand.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA00357; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:13:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from brameld@twave.net) From: Walter Brameld To: Gawel , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: make fetch + dependencies Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:11:56 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain References: <38BA81C7.E7FA0940@sim.com.pl> In-Reply-To: <38BA81C7.E7FA0940@sim.com.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00022811133103.00316@Bozo_3.BozoLand.domain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, in a never-ending search for enlightenment, Gawel wrote: > Hello, > How to make fetch a single port with all dependencies? > (only download a port and and all dependencies ports) > Thanks. > 1) Make sure you are connected to the internet. 2) cd to the port you wish to make (/usr/ports/whatever) 3) Type "make" or "make install" 4) Let the ports collection do the rest of the work for you 8-) -- Walter Brameld in·tel·lec·tu·al n. Someone who has been educated past his/her level of intelligence. Join the Army, meet interesting people, kill them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 28 8:22:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from account.abs.net (account.abs.net [207.114.5.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F35B37BA2C for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:22:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from howardl@account.abs.net) Received: (from howardl@localhost) by account.abs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3+RBL+DUL+RSS+ORBS) id LAA05534; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:22:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from howardl) From: Howard Leadmon Message-Id: <200002281622.LAA05534@account.abs.net> Subject: Re: WD Driver Errors?? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20000228110758.014329a0@marble.sentex.ca> from Mike Tancsa at "Feb 28, 2000 11:07:58 am" To: Mike Tancsa Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:22:09 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL72 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Can anyone tell me specifically what this is telling me?? It's a brand new > >HD, and I am wondering if something is wrong with it. Any help with tracking > >this down would be appreciated. FYI, this is the most current version of 3.4 > >STABLE as pulled via CVS yesterday.. > > What flags are you using in your kernel for the controller ? Also, post a > dmesg to the list detailing the hardware you are using (e.g. > dmesg | grep wd) > > ---Mike Mike, thanks for the really fast reply, didn't think it would even make it to the list that fast.. :) As per your request, here is what I have in the kernel config file for the machine, which is close to the defaults with the small exception that the one gentleman who works for me happened to connect and load the drive on the 2nd IDE channel so I just left it that way. Hopefully that doesn't hurt anything, and if so, can I get it back on the primary channel? KERNEL CONF: # IDE controller and disks options "CMD640" # work around CMD640 chip deficiency controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 config kernel root on wd2 DMESG: wdc0 not found at 0x1f0 wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): wd2: 9779MB (20028960 sectors), 19870 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wd2: interrupt timeout (status 58 error 0) wd2: wdtimeout() DMA status 4 I think that covers your questions, but if I missed anything just let me know and I will get the information back to you. Also FYI, the system is an Abit BP6 board with two Celeron CPU's installed and 256M of RAM.. --- Howard Leadmon - howardl@abs.net - http://www.abs.net ABSnet Internet Services - Phone: 410-361-8160 - FAX: 410-361-8162 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 28 11:16:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.gmx.net (mail1.gmx.net [194.221.183.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0307237BA3D for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:16:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roland.jesse@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 11916 invoked by uid 0); 28 Feb 2000 18:55:06 -0000 Received: from node43.dial.uni-magdeburg.de (HELO trillian.my.local.domain) (141.44.160.43) by mail1.gmx.net with SMTP; 28 Feb 2000 18:55:06 -0000 Received: (from j@localhost) by trillian.my.local.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA00600; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:53:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roland.jesse@gmx.net) X-Authentication-Warning: trillian.my.local.domain: j set sender to roland.jesse@gmx.net using -f To: Walter Brameld Cc: Gawel , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: make fetch + dependencies References: <38BA81C7.E7FA0940@sim.com.pl> <00022811133103.00316@Bozo_3.BozoLand.domain> From: Roland Jesse Date: 28 Feb 2000 19:53:38 +0100 In-Reply-To: Walter Brameld's message of "Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:11:56 -0500" Message-ID: <861z5xduq5.fsf@trillian.my.local.domain> Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Walter Brameld writes: > 1) Make sure you are connected to the internet. > 2) cd to the port you wish to make (/usr/ports/whatever) > 3) Type "make" or "make install" > 4) Let the ports collection do the rest of the work for you 8-) As I understand it that does not really answer the question as he only wanted to do the `make fetch` part while being connected to the internet. The point is in doing the build of the port (make and install) while being offline. I don't really know how to do it, though. Roland To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 28 12:50: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server1.huntsvilleal.com (www.huntsvilleal.com [207.13.224.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3EE37B955 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:50:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@hiwaay.net) Received: from barricuda.bsd.nws.net (kris.huntsvilleal.com [207.13.224.46]) by server1.huntsvilleal.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18517; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:31:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by barricuda.bsd.nws.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05457; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:49:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kris@hiwaay.net) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:48:58 -0600 (CST) From: Kris Kirby To: "Sameer R. Manek" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail (PPP) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I've noticed that when I use ppp -nat, on my 56k modem, the load average of > the system seems to be a bit go high, when I ftp files across it. The cpu > (PII 400) is more then sufficiently powered to handle nat and ppp over a > modem. Nor is system paging to swap. > > Anyone else noticed similar load averages? Top doesn't seem to provide any > evidence of ppp, being stuck in a busy loop. Yes. My gateway machine floats between 1.25 and 1.85. I'm also running a distributed.net client. --- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR | TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. | ------------------------------------------------------- "God gave them the ability to reproduce... ... Science gave us the hope they won't." -KBK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 28 13:53:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.twave.net (twave.net [206.100.228.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A074637B8FD for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:53:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brameld@twave.net) Received: from [208.219.234.43] by mail.twave.net (NTMail 3.03.0018/1.abwg) with ESMTP id ga837882 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:51:58 -0500 Received: from Bozo_3.BozoLand.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Bozo_3.BozoLand.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA00466; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:52:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from brameld@twave.net) From: Walter Brameld To: Roland Jesse Subject: Re: make fetch + dependencies Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:51:40 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: Gawel , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" References: <38BA81C7.E7FA0940@sim.com.pl> <00022811133103.00316@Bozo_3.BozoLand.domain> <861z5xduq5.fsf@trillian.my.local.domain> In-Reply-To: <861z5xduq5.fsf@trillian.my.local.domain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00022816525204.00412@Bozo_3.BozoLand.domain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, in a never-ending search for enlightenment, Roland Jesse wrote: > Walter Brameld writes: > > > 1) Make sure you are connected to the internet. > > 2) cd to the port you wish to make (/usr/ports/whatever) > > 3) Type "make" or "make install" > > 4) Let the ports collection do the rest of the work for you 8-) > > As I understand it that does not really answer the question as he only > wanted to do the `make fetch` part while being connected to the > internet. The point is in doing the build of the port (make and > install) while being offline. > > I don't really know how to do it, though. > > Roland > Ya got me, wasn't paying enough attention. Someone mentioned "portcheckout", that may do the trick. -- Walter Brameld in·tel·lec·tu·al n. Someone who has been educated past his/her level of intelligence. Join the Army, meet interesting people, kill them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 28 14: 1:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from numeri.campus.luth.se (numeri.campus.luth.se [130.240.197.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D4B37B8B8 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:01:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from k@numeri.campus.luth.se) Received: from numeri.campus.luth.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by numeri.campus.luth.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA99229; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:01:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from k@numeri.campus.luth.se) Message-Id: <200002282201.XAA99229@numeri.campus.luth.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Walter Brameld Cc: Roland Jesse , Gawel , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: make fetch + dependencies In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:51:40 EST." <00022816525204.00412@Bozo_3.BozoLand.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:01:54 +0100 From: Johan Karlsson Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:51:40 EST, Walter Brameld wrote: >On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, in a never-ending search for enlightenment, Roland = Jesse = >wrote: >> Walter Brameld writes: >> = >> > 1) Make sure you are connected to the internet. >> > 2) cd to the port you wish to make (/usr/ports/whatever) >> > 3) Type "make" or "make install" >> > 4) Let the ports collection do the rest of the work for you 8-) >> = >> As I understand it that does not really answer the question as he only= >> wanted to do the `make fetch` part while being connected to the >> internet. The point is in doing the build of the port (make and >> install) while being offline. >> = >> I don't really know how to do it, though. >> = >> Roland >> = I once wrote a patch for bsd.port.mk to this. See ports/12548 in the PR database for the details. /Johan K To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 28 17: 6:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6581537B9DD for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:06:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA25618; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:06:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA60932; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:06:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:06:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200002290106.RAA60932@vashon.polstra.com> To: igiveup@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: problem with /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/lockdflt.c:55 In-Reply-To: <38B85437.5F4C0298@ix.netcom.com> References: <200002022143.NAA89098@vashon.polstra.com> <38B85437.5F4C0298@ix.netcom.com> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <38B85437.5F4C0298@ix.netcom.com>, Ben Speirs wrote: > I have a similar message that is generated while running wine on > FreeBSD-Stable built on Feb 7. Here is the output: > > ld-elf.so.1: assert failed: /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/lockdflt.c:54 > > Would this be related to the threads portion that is still being worked > on? I thought it was completely fixed in -current, but somebody else recently reported this problem (with wine) there too. > I ask because I also get a message saying "Abort trap (core > dumped)" but part of the program keeps running. If you could find the core file and use gdb to get a stack trace, that would help me a lot. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 28 18:35:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sonnius.yi.org (c187123175.telekabel.chello.nl [212.187.123.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 912E737B678 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:35:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rob2@sonnius.yi.org) Received: (qmail 1144 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2000 22:41:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sonnius.yi.org) (192.168.1.2) by 212.187.123.175 with SMTP; 3 Apr 2000 22:41:14 -0000 Message-ID: <38BB31EB.6ABB5052@sonnius.yi.org> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 03:41:47 +0100 From: rob X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14-15mdk i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG rob@sonnius.yi.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 28 21:14:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from natsoft.com.au (natsoft.com.au [203.39.138.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E21337BA39 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:14:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craig@natsoft.com.au) Received: from Win95.natsoft.com.au (Win95 [203.39.138.131]) by natsoft.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA08679 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:17:06 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <38BB54BD.1A06@natsoft.com.au> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:10:21 +1100 From: Craig Wilson Organization: National Software Pty Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Compaq Armada E700 PIII 500 With FreeBSD3.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to install FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE onto a Compaq Armada E700 however FreeBSD is failing to probe the IDE controller (wdc0). I have searched the GNATS problem data base, and read documentation but cannot find a solution. I attempted to download FreeBSD4.0RC but it is going to take 15 hours so I gave this option away. I did boot RedHat Linux 6 on this computer and it did find the controller & hard drive. Win98 also works fine. FreeBSD3.4 also worked on a Compaq Armada E700 PII 400, I no longer have access to this computer to determine any chip differences. I looked at the IDE settings under Win98 and they were irq 14 0x1f0. There are no BIOS parameters affecting the hard drive to set, in fact there are very few BIOS setup options. I tried flags 0x2000 on wdc0, but to no avail. Could someone please give me some clues as to get this to work or to find out what is happening. This computer is a PIII 500Mhz with a 18GIG IDE Hard Drive. The boot screen from the 3.4 CD is as follows, I have copied this by hand from the laptop so I have only included relevant lines: avail memory = 10506240 (10260K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc05fa000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x03 on pci0.1.0 chip2: rev 0x03 int a irq 11 on pci0.4.0 chip3: rev 0x03 int a irq 11 on pci0.4.1 chip4: rev 0x03 on pci0.7.0 ide_pci0: rev 0x01 pn pci0.7.1 chip5: rev 0x03 on pci0.7.3 fxp0: rev 0x09 int a irq 11 on pci0.9.0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:b4:c0:91:00:a6, 10Mbps Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: vga0: rev 0x64 int a irq 11 on pci1.0.0 Probing for devices on PCI bus 2: Probing for devices on PCI bus 3: Probing for PnP devices: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA colour <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 irq 12 on isa psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 not found at 0x1f0 (****My Problem****) wdc1 not found at 0x170 ppc0: at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 plip0: on ppbus 0 vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface changing root device to fd0c rootfs is 2880 Kbyte compiled in MFS The systems sees ide_pci0 but fails to see wdc0. Thanks in advance for any assistance. Regards Craig Wilson National Software Pty Ltd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 28 21:30:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com [24.6.21.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2483D37BA5E for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:30:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from conrads@cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id XAA01384; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:30:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from conrads) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:30:42 -0600 From: Conrad Sabatier To: Gawel Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: make fetch + dependencies Message-ID: <20000228233042.C659@home.com> References: <38BA81C7.E7FA0940@sim.com.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <38BA81C7.E7FA0940@sim.com.pl>; from gawel@sim.com.pl on Mon, Feb 28, 2000 at 03:10:15PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Feb 28, 2000 at 03:10:15PM +0100, Gawel wrote: > Hello, > How to make fetch a single port with all dependencies? > (only download a port and and all dependencies ports) > Thanks. There are a couple of targets defined in /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk that you could use to do this: make build-depends-list make run-depends-list Each of these prints a list of the full pathnames to each of the ports your main port depends on, one per line. You could write a script that would call itself recursively for each listed pathname, fetching all the requisite packages. For example, say you name your script "fetch-all". You cd to the directory of the port you wish to build and run "fetch-all", which does something like the following: -----------snip------------ #!/bin/sh # Fetch the main package make fetch # Fetch all dependencies for d in `make build-depends-list run-depends-list` do cd $d && fetch-all done -----------snip------------ This is, of course, a very simplistic version of such a script, in that it would most likely do a lot of unnecessary fetching of packages for ports that are already installed. But just to give you an idea of how it might be done. Hope this helps. By the way, why did you choose the stable list to ask this question in? -- Conrad Sabatier http://members.home.net/conrads/ ICQ# 1147270 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 28 22:17: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (smtp7.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.128.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204FB37BA99 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:17:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from igiveup@ix.netcom.com) Received: from ix.netcom.com (user-2ini9ja.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.38.106]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA32445; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 01:16:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38BB6455.328AE081@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:16:53 -0800 From: Ben Speirs X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Polstra Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/lockdflt.c:55 References: <200002022143.NAA89098@vashon.polstra.com> <38B85437.5F4C0298@ix.netcom.com> <200002290106.RAA60932@vashon.polstra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Polstra wrote: > If you could find the core file and use gdb to get a stack trace, > that would help me a lot. > > John Thanks John, I noticed your feedback to Don. He and I are probably running a similar build of wine, although I'm still on FreeBSD-STABLE. Here is my backtrace just in case you still need it. #0 0x28058598 in kill () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #1 0x280581bc in abort () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #2 0x28050539 in lockdflt_acquire () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #3 0x2804e595 in _rtld_bind () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #4 0x2804e07d in _rtld_bind_start () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #5 0x2842a67c in SYSDEPS_StartThread (teb=0x28df0000) at sysdeps.c:132 #6 0x0 in ?? () This does not happen every time, only sporadically. I think it has something to with the wineserver stuff. The reason I say that is that I noticed that occurs more often when I start a second application while one is already running, or when I start two applications at the same time. I am willing to try any patches you might come up with, although it might be a little tough to debug since the errors are so inconsistent. Hope that helps. -- -Ben Speirs To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 2:51:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kernel22.dvacm.gov (rems8.cio.med.va.gov [204.176.52.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04DAD37BA62 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 02:51:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lluisma@osi-technologies.com) Received: from osi-technologies.com (IDENT:esl@localhost.dvacm.gov [127.0.0.1]) by kernel22.dvacm.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA01739; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 05:49:26 -0500 Message-ID: <38BBA436.DF044D61@osi-technologies.com> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 05:49:26 -0500 From: lluisma X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Tuning: FreeBSD as static router with 6 fast ethernet cards Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have this opportunity to use freebsd as a router serving 15 subnets with six fast ethernet cards(will do aliasing to support all 15 subnets) supporting about 1,200 PCs running windows. In addition, this freebsd router will also run samba 2.0.6( to act as local master browser for all subnets) and ipfilter and nothing else. All PCs are connected to switches with 10/100 mbit ports. Question: Is there any special tuning I can do to maximize routing performance under the above setup? Should I increase values for bpfilter and maxusers? What kernel options should I focus on? Any suggestions will be highly appreciated. Regards, LLU To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 5:55:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.kurgan.ru (phoenix.kurgan.ru [195.54.28.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5BB837BB39 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 05:55:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Martin@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru) Received: from hilldale.kurgan.ru (hilldale.kurgan.ru [195.54.28.11]) by phoenix.kurgan.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA04188 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:55:04 +0500 (YEKT) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:54:59 +0500 From: Martin McFlySr Reply-To: Martin McFlySr Organization: Back To The Future X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <19788.000229@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: panic fault Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello stable@FreeBSD.ORG, please, look this: >----------------------------------------------------------------------- Fatal trap 12 : page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc014a750 stack pointer = 0x10:0xc0855ae4 frame pointer = 0x10:0xc0255af0 code segment = base 0x0, limir 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, press 1, def32 1, gran1 precossor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL=0 current process = Idle interrupt mask = bio trap number = 12 panic: page fault syncinc disk: 141,141,141,141, ..... >----------------------------------------------------------------------- And after this - reboot :( /var/run/dmesg.boot: >----------------------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE #7: Fri Feb 25 08:27:45 YEKT 2000 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Celeron (367.50-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x665 Stepping = 5 Features=0x183f9ff real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) avail memory = 127377408 (124392K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02e0000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc02e009c. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x03 on pci0.1.0 chip2: rev 0x02 on pci0.4.0 ide_pci0: rev 0x01 on pci0.4.1 chip3: rev 0x02 on pci0.4.3 de0: rev 0x11 int a irq 9 on pci0.9.0 de0: 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 1.1 de0: address 00:80:48:ea:4c:38 vga0: rev 0x54 int a irq 12 on pci0.12.0 Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: Probing for PnP devices: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 not found sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): wd1: 13031MB (26688576 sectors), 26476 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 not found at 0x170 ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 plip0: on ppbus 0 vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface de0: enabling 10baseT port default to deny, logging limited to 30000 packets/entry by default BRIDGE 990810, have 8 interfaces -- index 1 type 6 phy 0 addrl 6 addr xx.xx.xx.xx.xx.xx DUMMYNET initialized (000212) >----------------------------------------------------------------------- and want ask two russian questuion: 1. who is guilty? 2. what doing? thank you, -- Tuesday, February 29, 2000, 17:08 Best regards from future, Martin McFlySr, HillDale. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 6: 2:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from unix.za.net (unix.za.net [196.7.89.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DC537BB45 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 06:02:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daniel@unix.za.net) Received: from daniel (helo=localhost) by unix.za.net with local-esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12PnCa-000H17-00; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:00:40 +0200 Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:00:40 +0200 (SAST) From: Daniel Schroder To: Martin McFlySr Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: panic fault In-Reply-To: <19788.000229@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hello stable@FreeBSD.ORG, > > please, look this: Sure , could you please send the memory in question to me , and I'll have a look at it with pleasure :) It's possibily a hardware memory fault. --Daniel Schroder (Private email daniel@unix.os.org.za) Unix users .. South Africa To : stable@FreeBSD.ORG From : Martin McFlySr date : Feb 29 Address : Martin@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru Quality is a standard .. not a selling point On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Martin McFlySr wrote: > Hello stable@FreeBSD.ORG, > > please, look this: > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Fatal trap 12 : page fault while in kernel mode > fault virtual address = 0x0 > fault code = supervisor write, page not present > instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc014a750 > stack pointer = 0x10:0xc0855ae4 > frame pointer = 0x10:0xc0255af0 > code segment = base 0x0, limir 0xfffff, type 0x1b > = DPL 0, press 1, def32 1, gran1 > precossor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL=0 > current process = Idle > interrupt mask = bio > trap number = 12 > panic: page fault > syncinc disk: 141,141,141,141, ..... > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > And after this - reboot :( > > /var/run/dmesg.boot: > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE #7: Fri Feb 25 08:27:45 YEKT 2000 > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz > CPU: Celeron (367.50-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x665 Stepping = 5 > Features=0x183f9ff > real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) > avail memory = 127377408 (124392K bytes) > Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02e0000. > Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc02e009c. > Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled > Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: > chip0: rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0 > chip1: rev 0x03 on pci0.1.0 > chip2: rev 0x02 on pci0.4.0 > ide_pci0: rev 0x01 on pci0.4.1 > chip3: rev 0x02 on pci0.4.3 > de0: rev 0x11 int a irq 9 on pci0.9.0 > de0: 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 1.1 > de0: address 00:80:48:ea:4c:38 > vga0: rev 0x54 int a irq 12 on pci0.12.0 > Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: > Probing for PnP devices: > Probing for devices on the ISA bus: > sc0 on isa > sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> > atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard > atkbd0 irq 1 on isa > psm0 not found > sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa > sio0: type 16550A > sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa > sio1: type 16550A > fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa > fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold > fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in > wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa > wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): > wd0: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): > wd1: 13031MB (26688576 sectors), 26476 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > wdc1 not found at 0x170 > ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa > ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode > lpt0: on ppbus 0 > lpt0: Interrupt-driven port > ppi0: on ppbus 0 > plip0: on ppbus 0 > vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa > npx0 on motherboard > npx0: INT 16 interface > de0: enabling 10baseT port > default to deny, logging limited to 30000 packets/entry by default > BRIDGE 990810, have 8 interfaces > -- index 1 type 6 phy 0 addrl 6 addr xx.xx.xx.xx.xx.xx > DUMMYNET initialized (000212) > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > and want ask two russian questuion: > > 1. who is guilty? > 2. what doing? > > thank you, > > -- > Tuesday, February 29, 2000, > 17:08 > > Best regards from future, > Martin McFlySr, HillDale. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 6:21:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2EEB37BB46 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 06:21:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kwc@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com (root@world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by europe.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07155 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:21:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kwc@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA24813; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:19:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:19:59 -0500 (EST) From: Kenneth W Cochran Message-Id: <200002291419.JAA24813@world.std.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all... This may be more of a -ports issue, but I'm not "there" right now... I'm running 3.4-stable as of 2000/02/28, originally installed from CDs as 3.4-release. I also keep the /etc things merged-in... How can I get xpdf? Even though it shows up in the ports tree, the description says it is in both "graphics" & "print" but it is only listed in "graphics." Xpdf is not on *any* of the CDs. I could've sworn it was on previous CDs; how did it get left out? I'd think xpdf would be a "biggie..." Ok, so the make in /usr/ports/graphics/xpdf goes & tries to ftp things... and... Configure stops on checking for external symbols requiring underscore prefix; no error message... it just stops... I had do control-c to get out... And I still have no xpdf... No readmes... no howtos... no errata... So... What's up here? Btw, xpdf is not the only one that (mis)behaves like this; there have been a couple of others, but I can't remember them right now... Thanks, -kc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 6:29: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2AE837BB5C for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 06:28:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix, from userid 1016) id 7140F9B19; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:28:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6864DBA1D; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:28:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:28:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: cdf.lists@pawn.primelocation.net To: Kenneth W Cochran Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable In-Reply-To: <200002291419.JAA24813@world.std.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: > Hi all... > > This may be more of a -ports issue, but I'm not "there" right now... > > I'm running 3.4-stable as of 2000/02/28, originally installed > from CDs as 3.4-release. I also keep the /etc things merged-in... > > How can I get xpdf? > > Even though it shows up in the ports tree, the description says > it is in both "graphics" & "print" but it is only listed in > "graphics." > > Xpdf is not on *any* of the CDs. I could've sworn it was on > previous CDs; how did it get left out? I'd think xpdf would be > a "biggie..." > Looking at ports/graphics/xpdf/Makefile, you will find: .if !defined(PACKAGE_BUILDING) RESTRICTED= "Contains cryptography" .endif which means that an xpdf package will not be built since it contains cryptographic code (presumably to decrypt encrypted .pdf's). > Ok, so the make in /usr/ports/graphics/xpdf goes & tries to ftp things... > and... > Configure stops on checking for external symbols requiring > underscore prefix; no error message... it just stops... I had > do control-c to get out... And I still have no xpdf... > > No readmes... no howtos... no errata... > > So... What's up here? Btw, xpdf is not the only one that > (mis)behaves like this; there have been a couple of others, but > I can't remember them right now... > It's difficult to debug without any real error messages. Feel free to send errors/logs/etc to the MAINTAINER (found in the port's Makefile) and/or ports@FreeBSD.org ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 6:30:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.uunet.ca (mail1.uunet.ca [209.167.141.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695E537BAFE for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 06:30:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca ([216.95.146.6]) by mail1.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <215673-7805>; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:30:51 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:30:50 -0500 From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Kenneth W Cochran Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable In-Reply-To: <200002291419.JAA24813@world.std.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On my 3.4-STABLE (as of early Jan) with the 2000.01.05 update for ports, xpdf has absolutely no problem compiling, configuring, or otherwise working. I've tried this on two different 3.4-STABLE machines, so I can only assume wihtout looking into this too much more that either something new in 3.4-STABLE broke it, or your system is out of sync in some way. Regarding why it is not on the CD, if you take a look at the Makefile, it's marked restricted if package building due to it containing crypto. The real question is, with the new US legislation, I've seen Microsoft claim that they can make high encryption available to anyone. Can we do the same? I claim absolutely no legal knowledge though, just something I saw on windows update regarding the high encryption package for win2k. Matt -- Matt Heckaman [matt@arpa.mail.net|matt@relic.net] [Please do not send me] !Powered by FreeBSD/x86! [http://www.freebsd.org] [any SPAM (UCE) e-mail] On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: : Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:19:59 -0500 : From: Kenneth W Cochran : To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org : Subject: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable : : Hi all... : : This may be more of a -ports issue, but I'm not "there" right now... : : I'm running 3.4-stable as of 2000/02/28, originally installed : from CDs as 3.4-release. I also keep the /etc things merged-in... : : How can I get xpdf? : : Even though it shows up in the ports tree, the description says : it is in both "graphics" & "print" but it is only listed in : "graphics." : : Xpdf is not on *any* of the CDs. I could've sworn it was on : previous CDs; how did it get left out? I'd think xpdf would be : a "biggie..." : : Ok, so the make in /usr/ports/graphics/xpdf goes & tries to ftp things... : and... : Configure stops on checking for external symbols requiring : underscore prefix; no error message... it just stops... I had : do control-c to get out... And I still have no xpdf... : : No readmes... no howtos... no errata... : : So... What's up here? Btw, xpdf is not the only one that : (mis)behaves like this; there have been a couple of others, but : I can't remember them right now... : : Thanks, : : -kc : : : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org : with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 6:53: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ramstind.gtf.ol.no (ramstind.gtf.ol.no [128.39.174.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E6037BB52 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 06:53:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by ramstind.gtf.ol.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04079; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:52:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:52:20 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= To: Kenneth W Cochran Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable In-Reply-To: <200002291419.JAA24813@world.std.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If you can't get a working xpdf, perhaps you should give gv (ghostview) a go? Take a look in /usr/ports/print/gv. You'll need ghostscript as well. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Trond Endrestøl | trond@gtf.ol.no Merkantilvegen 59HB7, | trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no N-2815 GJØVIK, NORWAY |+47 61139424 || +47 63874242 Patron of The Art of Computer Programming| FreeBSD 3.4 & Pine 4.21 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 7:13:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E81A37B905 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 07:13:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kwc@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com (root@world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by europe.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18329; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:13:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kwc@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA04016; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:11:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:11:03 -0500 (EST) From: Kenneth W Cochran Message-Id: <200002291511.KAA04016@world.std.com> To: "Chris D. Faulhaber" Subject: Re: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wow! That was fast... :) >Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:28:54 -0500 (EST) >From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" >Subject: Re: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable > >On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: >> How can I get xpdf? >> >> Even though it shows up in the ports tree, the description says >> it is in both "graphics" & "print" but it is only listed in >> "graphics." >> >> Xpdf is not on *any* of the CDs. I could've sworn it was on >> previous CDs; how did it get left out? I'd think xpdf would be >> a "biggie..." > >Looking at ports/graphics/xpdf/Makefile, you will find: > >.if !defined(PACKAGE_BUILDING) >RESTRICTED= "Contains cryptography" >.endif > >which means that an xpdf package will not be built since it >contains cryptographic code (presumably to decrypt encrypted .pdf's). What? Amazing... I'd never have guessed *that*... I generally stay out of makefiles (at least "officially") & try to rely on the appropriate READMEs, etc. (Ie. I "start out" in "semi-dumb-user" mode... :) >> Configure stops ... >> >> So... What's up here? Btw, xpdf is not the only one that >> (mis)behaves like this; there have been a couple of others, but >> I can't remember them right now... > >It's difficult to debug without any real error messages. Feel >free to send errors/logs/etc to the MAINTAINER (found in the >port's Makefile) and/or ports@FreeBSD.org Done... Thanks... I guess I'll have to wait & see what I might hear from them... -kc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 7:20:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0818D37BB86 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 07:20:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kwc@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com (root@world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by europe.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19732; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:20:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kwc@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA10289; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:18:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:18:25 -0500 (EST) From: Kenneth W Cochran Message-Id: <200002291518.KAA10289@world.std.com> To: Matt Heckaman Subject: Re: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:30:50 -0500 >From: Matt Heckaman >Subject: Re: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable > >On my 3.4-STABLE (as of early Jan) with the 2000.01.05 update >for ports, xpdf has absolutely no problem compiling, >configuring, or otherwise working. Hmmm... So, should I be "tracking" ports as well as src-all? >I've tried this on two different 3.4-STABLE machines, so I can >only assume wihtout looking into this too much more that either >something new in 3.4-STABLE broke it, or your system is out of >sync in some way. As I implied above... >Regarding why it is not on the CD, if you take a look at the >Makefile, it's marked restricted if package building due to it >containing crypto. Aha! Interesting... Would be nice if there were some kind of notation in the README (for example)... >The real question is, with the new US legislation, I've seen >Microsoft claim that they can make high encryption available to >anyone. Can we do the same? I claim absolutely no legal >knowledge though, just something I saw on windows update >regarding the high encryption package for win2k. Cough-cough... :) -kc >Matt >-- >Matt Heckaman [matt@arpa.mail.net|matt@relic.net] [Please do not send me] >!Powered by FreeBSD/x86! [http://www.freebsd.org] [any SPAM (UCE) e-mail] > >On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: > >: Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:19:59 -0500 >: From: Kenneth W Cochran >: To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org >: Subject: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable >: >: Hi all... >: >: This may be more of a -ports issue, but I'm not "there" right now... >: >: I'm running 3.4-stable as of 2000/02/28, originally installed >: from CDs as 3.4-release. I also keep the /etc things merged-in... >: >: How can I get xpdf? >[...] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 7:25:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61EE037BBBF for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 07:25:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kwc@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com (root@world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by europe.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20911; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:25:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kwc@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13547; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:22:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:22:55 -0500 (EST) From: Kenneth W Cochran Message-Id: <200002291522.KAA13547@world.std.com> To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Subject: Re: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey, thanks! I had not thought of that... I had planned to install ghostview/ghostscript anyway... (Didn't know gv would handle .pdf...) Another "tool" for the "box..." :) -kc >Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:52:20 +0100 (CET) >Subject: Re: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable > >If you can't get a working xpdf, perhaps you should give gv >(ghostview) a go? Take a look in /usr/ports/print/gv. >You'll need ghostscript as well. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Trond Endrestøl | trond@gtf.ol.no >Merkantilvegen 59HB7, | trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no >N-2815 GJØVIK, NORWAY |+47 61139424 || +47 63874242 >Patron of The Art of Computer Programming| FreeBSD 3.4 & Pine 4.21 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 7:43:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9273437BB7B for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 07:42:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E54C124C8 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:42:43 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:42:26 +0100 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Brad Knowles Subject: Error: "Maximum file descriptors exceeded"... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Folks, I've made some configuration changes on our news peering server to try to push out more articles to our peers by having more simultaneous connections open. Unfortunately, I'm now getting this error quite a lot. I've searched the archives, and although I can find the names of commands to run to see how many files are currently being used out of the total (`pstat -T`), and what the current system-wide limits are (`limit -a`), I've reconfigured the Kernel to artificially raise the maximum number of open files that are allowed on the system (without boosting "MAXUSERS" beyond 128, which I understand causes more problems than it solves), and I've put in a command to set the per-process limits for the "news" user to be the same as the system-wide limits, I'm still getting this error. Details are below, but I'm at a loss for what more I can do to make sure that this problem goes away. From what I can tell, there's nothing more I should need to do in order to make this work correctly, and yet I still get this error message logged. Any and all help would be appreciated. T10e6IA! -Brad ======================================================== `pstat -T`: 5505/32768 files 0M/1151M swap space ======================================================== `ulimit -a`: core file size (blocks) unlimited data seg size (kbytes) 1048576 file size (blocks) unlimited max locked memory (kbytes) unlimited max memory size (kbytes) unlimited open files 16384 pipe size (512 bytes) 1 stack size (kbytes) 65536 cpu time (seconds) unlimited max user processes 2067 virtual memory (kbytes) 1114112 ======================================================== `head -12 /usr/news/rc.news`: #!/bin/sh -vx # # RC.NEWS, must be run as root # # Not all operating systems have a maxproc and/or descriptor # resource limit. Edit as appropriate. However, note that # Diablo needs to have at least 128 descriptors available for # most moderate installations and, being a forking server # plus dealing with all the outgoung feeds, the maximum number # of news processes should be bumped up pretty high too. ulimit -n 16384 ======================================================== `dmesg`: Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE #0: Tue Feb 29 12:31:53 CET 2000 root@seymour.skynet.be:/usr/src/sys/compile/SEYMOUR Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium III (686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x672 Stepping=2 Features=0x383fbff,> real memory = 1073741824 (1048576K bytes) avail memory = 1042329600 (1017900K bytes) Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02dc000. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x03 on pci0.1.0 chip2: rev 0x03 on pci0.2.0 chip3: rev 0x02 on pci0.7.0 ide_pci0: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.1 chip4: rev 0x02 on pci0.7.3 dpt0: rev 0x02 int a irq 18 on pci0.14.0 dpt0: DPT PM3334UW FW Rev. 07M0, 1 channel, 64 CCBs Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: vga0: rev 0x7a on pci1.0.0 Probing for devices on PCI bus 2: fxp0: rev 0x05 int a irq 21 on pci2.9.0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:90:27:86:21:5d ahc0: rev 0x01 int a irq 16 on pci2.11.0 ahc0: aic7890/91 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs Probing for PnP devices: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 not found sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 not found at 0x1f0 scd0 not found at 0x230 ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 plip0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery APIC_IO: routing 8254 via pin 2 IP packet filtering initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, logging limited to 100 packets/entry Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! changing root devicda1 at dpt0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 35015MB (71711744 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4463C) e to da0s2a da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4357MB (8925000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 555C) ======================================================== Is there anything else you want/need to know? -- These are my opinions and should not be taken as official Skynet policy ========================================================================= Brad Knowles, Sys. Arch., Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of this message. If you are using a Microsoft program to view this message, be forewarned that I am not responsible for any harm you may encounter as a result. See for details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 7:51:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uunet.ca (mail2.uunet.ca [142.77.1.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61AE337BB94 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 07:51:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca ([216.95.146.6]) by mail2.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <600153-26033>; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:47:38 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:51:23 -0500 From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Brad Knowles Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Error: "Maximum file descriptors exceeded"... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Morning, I do not think that MAXUSERS > 128 is a problem at all anymore. I have two very high traffic/load public machines running 3.4-release and 3.4-stable, both have MAXUSERS set at 512 and even NMBCLUSTERS as high as 32,768 - I've never had a drop of trouble out of either of these machines. To be quite honest with you, I'm not very sure where this idea came from that MAXUSERS > 128 is bad, I've been running configs like that for quite a while (I guess ( 3.1+)) and never had a bit of trouble, minus the time I had a hard drive fail, but that doesn't really count =) Hope this helps, Matt -- Matt Heckaman [matt@arpa.mail.net|matt@relic.net] [Please do not send me] !Powered by FreeBSD/x86! [http://www.freebsd.org] [any SPAM (UCE) e-mail] On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Brad Knowles wrote: : Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:42:26 -0500 : From: Brad Knowles : To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org : Subject: Error: "Maximum file descriptors exceeded"... : : Folks, : : I've made some configuration changes on our news peering server : to try to push out more articles to our peers by having more : simultaneous connections open. Unfortunately, I'm now getting this : error quite a lot. : : : I've searched the archives, and although I can find the names of : commands to run to see how many files are currently being used out of : the total (`pstat -T`), and what the current system-wide limits are : (`limit -a`), I've reconfigured the Kernel to artificially raise the : maximum number of open files that are allowed on the system (without : boosting "MAXUSERS" beyond 128, which I understand causes more : problems than it solves), and I've put in a command to set the : per-process limits for the "news" user to be the same as the : system-wide limits, I'm still getting this error. : : Details are below, but I'm at a loss for what more I can do to : make sure that this problem goes away. From what I can tell, there's : nothing more I should need to do in order to make this work : correctly, and yet I still get this error message logged. : : : Any and all help would be appreciated. : : T10e6IA! : : -Brad [.snip.] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 7:54:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.uunet.ca (mail1.uunet.ca [209.167.141.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D3437BBB7 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 07:54:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca ([216.95.146.6]) by mail1.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <214567-21122>; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:54:22 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:54:18 -0500 From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Kenneth W Cochran Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable In-Reply-To: <200002291518.KAA10289@world.std.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: [.snip.] : Hmmm... So, should I be "tracking" ports as well as src-all? I do not know if "should" would be the word I would choose, however it fits the situation well. Personally, I cvsup ports every night, but I'm a little bit over-obsessed with things being "new" =) [.snip.] Matt -- Matt Heckaman [matt@arpa.mail.net|matt@relic.net] [Please do not send me] !Powered by FreeBSD/x86! [http://www.freebsd.org] [any SPAM (UCE) e-mail] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 8: 6:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF6037BB52 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:06:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3D1CE11; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:05:57 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:04:09 +0100 To: Matt Heckaman From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Error: "Maximum file descriptors exceeded"... Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:51 AM -0500 2000/2/29, Matt Heckaman wrote: > To be quite honest with you, I'm not very sure where this idea came from > that MAXUSERS > 128 is bad, I've been running configs like that for quite > a while (I guess ( 3.1+)) and never had a bit of trouble, minus the time > I had a hard drive fail, but that doesn't really count =) This particular machine is in production and running 3.2-RELEASE, so MAXUSERS > 128 might still be a problem. I can't take the machine out of production, so upgrading the OS really isn't an option. However, I have explicitly increased NMBCLUSTERS to 16384 (at the recommendation of another knowledgeable FreeBSD admin), and I haven't seen this cause any problems for me. Unfortunately, none of this seems to be related to my problem of having the error message described, or how I can eliminate this error message. -- These are my opinions and should not be taken as official Skynet policy ========================================================================= Brad Knowles, Sys. Arch., Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of this message. If you are using a Microsoft program to view this message, be forewarned that I am not responsible for any harm you may encounter as a result. See for details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 8: 6:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF0737BB76 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:06:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61021E8AC; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:06:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02875; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:06:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14523.61072.174812.641256@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:06:40 -0500 (EST) To: Matt Heckaman Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable In-Reply-To: References: <200002291518.KAA10289@world.std.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "MH" == Matt Heckaman writes: MH> I do not know if "should" would be the word I would choose, however it MH> fits the situation well. Personally, I cvsup ports every night, but I'm MH> a little bit over-obsessed with things being "new" =) I do as well, but I find it a bit tedious to scan the updated files list to see what is really updated. Has anyone got a method to say typing "make whatsnew" in the top of ports and have it scan my existing ports and the current index and tell me what's out of date version number wise? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 PGP & MIME spoken here http://www.kciLink.com/home/khera/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 8:11:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E9DF37BD6F for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:11:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (jack@localhost) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA86213; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:11:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:11:18 -0500 (EST) From: jack To: Vivek Khera Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable In-Reply-To: <14523.61072.174812.641256@onceler.kcilink.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Today Vivek Khera wrote: > >>>>> "MH" == Matt Heckaman writes: > > MH> I do not know if "should" would be the word I would choose, however it > MH> fits the situation well. Personally, I cvsup ports every night, but I'm > MH> a little bit over-obsessed with things being "new" =) > > I do as well, but I find it a bit tedious to scan the updated files > list to see what is really updated. Has anyone got a method to say > typing "make whatsnew" in the top of ports and have it scan my > existing ports and the current index and tell me what's out of date > version number wise? pkg_version(1) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 8:12:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4138737C366 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:12:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca ([204.244.186.218]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12PpFn-00070H-00; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:12:07 -0800 Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:12:05 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Brad Knowles Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error: "Maximum file descriptors exceeded"... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Beware of per-user limits. You don't mention what user you ran "limit" as, or what user the news server process runs as. Each could have very different limits. See /etc/login.conf. It might even depend on how the server server process is started. Processes started at boot run under the "daemon" class, for instance. BTW, the system wide file limit is not static. You don't need to re-compile to change it, or even reboot. Just use sysctl. Tom Uniserve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 8:12:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.uunet.ca (mail5.uunet.ca [142.77.1.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1D537C370 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:12:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca ([216.95.146.6]) by mail5.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <231339-14870>; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:13:47 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:12:03 -0500 From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Vivek Khera Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable In-Reply-To: <14523.61072.174812.641256@onceler.kcilink.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I call cvsup from crontab, with a line like this: 0 8 * * * root cvsup -g -L 2 /usr/local/etc/cvsup/ports-supfile \ | mail -s "epsilon.lucida.qc.ca: ports update output" admin (formatted so it would read right in email) The output from cvsup only shows what it's changed, so it's very handy for tracking what's new, you get it in your e-mail once per day. Matt -- Matt Heckaman [matt@arpa.mail.net|matt@relic.net] [Please do not send me] !Powered by FreeBSD/x86! [http://www.freebsd.org] [any SPAM (UCE) e-mail] On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: : Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:06:40 -0500 : From: Vivek Khera : To: Matt Heckaman : Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE : Subject: Re: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable : : >>>>> "MH" == Matt Heckaman writes: : : MH> I do not know if "should" would be the word I would choose, however it : MH> fits the situation well. Personally, I cvsup ports every night, but I'm : MH> a little bit over-obsessed with things being "new" =) : : I do as well, but I find it a bit tedious to scan the updated files : list to see what is really updated. Has anyone got a method to say : typing "make whatsnew" in the top of ports and have it scan my : existing ports and the current index and tell me what's out of date : version number wise? : : -- : =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= : Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. : Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 : PGP & MIME spoken here http://www.kciLink.com/home/khera/ : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 8:16:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.96.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA73037B5F6 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:16:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: from baby.int.thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA50783; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:16:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from thehousleys.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby.int.thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08932; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:16:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Message-ID: <38BBF0D3.6ED0DFD3@thehousleys.net> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:16:19 -0500 From: James Housley Organization: The Housleys dot Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brad Knowles Cc: Matt Heckaman , FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Error: "Maximum file descriptors exceeded"... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brad Knowles wrote: > > > Unfortunately, none of this seems to be related to my problem of > having the error message described, or how I can eliminate this error > message. > housley@cat:~/work/monitors {34} sysctl -a | grep -i file kern.maxfiles: 2088 kern.bootfile: /kernel kern.maxfilesperproc: 2088 kern.corefile: %N.core p1003_1b.mapped_files: 0 It looks like updating kern.maxfiles and/or kern.maxfilesperproc should do the trick. What are the limits set in /etc/login.conf?? Jim -- Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 8:24:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A3937BBDA for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:24:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C158ACC4A; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:24:02 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:17:52 +0100 To: Tom From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Error: "Maximum file descriptors exceeded"... Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 8:12 AM -0800 2000/2/29, Tom wrote: > Beware of per-user limits. You don't mention what user you ran "limit" > as, or what user the news server process runs as. Each could have very > different limits. See /etc/login.conf. It might even depend on how the > server server process is started. Processes started at boot run under the > "daemon" class, for instance. In theory, this is true. However, my /etc/login.conf does not appear to be configured this way: $ grep -v '^#' /etc/login.conf default:\ :copyright=/etc/COPYRIGHT:\ :welcome=/etc/motd:\ :setenv=MAIL=/var/mail/$,BLOCKSIZE=K:\ :path=~/bin /bin /usr/bin /usr/local/bin /usr/X11R6/bin:\ :nologin=/var/run/nologin:\ :cputime=unlimited:\ :datasize=unlimited:\ :stacksize=unlimited:\ :memorylocked=unlimited:\ :memoryuse=unlimited:\ :filesize=unlimited:\ :coredumpsize=unlimited:\ :openfiles=unlimited:\ :maxproc=unlimited:\ :priority=0:\ :ignoretime@:\ :umask=022: standard:\ :tc=default: xuser:\ :tc=default: staff:\ :tc=default: daemon:\ :tc=default: news:\ :tc=default: dialer:\ :tc=default: root:\ :ignorenologin:\ :tc=default: russian:Russian Users Accounts:\ :charset=KOI8-R:\ :lang=ru_RU.KOI8-R:\ :tc=default: > BTW, the system wide file limit is not static. You don't need to > re-compile to change it, or even reboot. Just use sysctl. I guess I'm going to have to read up on that.... Thanks! -- These are my opinions and should not be taken as official Skynet policy ========================================================================= Brad Knowles, Sys. Arch., Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of this message. If you are using a Microsoft program to view this message, be forewarned that I am not responsible for any harm you may encounter as a result. See for details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 8:34:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isds.duke.edu (davinci.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C60C37B5F6 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:34:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sto@stat.Duke.EDU) Received: from cayenne.isds.duke.edu (cayenne.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.11]) by isds.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17267 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:34:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from sto@localhost) by cayenne.isds.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24206 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:34:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:34:43 -0500 From: "Sean O'Connell" To: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Error: "Maximum file descriptors exceeded"... Message-ID: <20000229113443.F21891@stat.Duke.EDU> Reply-To: "Sean O'Connell" Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-STABLE References: <38BBF0D3.6ED0DFD3@thehousleys.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <38BBF0D3.6ED0DFD3@thehousleys.net>; from jim@thehousleys.net on Tue, Feb 29, 2000 at 11:16:19AM -0500 X-Organization: Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG James Housley stated: > Brad Knowles wrote: > > > > > > Unfortunately, none of this seems to be related to my problem of > > having the error message described, or how I can eliminate this error > > message. > > > housley@cat:~/work/monitors {34} sysctl -a | grep -i file > kern.maxfiles: 2088 > kern.bootfile: /kernel > kern.maxfilesperproc: 2088 > kern.corefile: %N.core > p1003_1b.mapped_files: 0 > > It looks like updating kern.maxfiles and/or kern.maxfilesperproc should > do the trick. What are the limits set in /etc/login.conf?? I thought this too, but if I run sysctl -w kern.maxfiles=4096 sysctl -w kern.maxfilesperproc=4096 Now: % sysctl kern.maxfiles kern.maxfiles: 4096 % sysctl kern.maxfilesperproc kern.maxfilesperproc: 4096 However, limit -h (tcsh builtin) and limits -H still report descriptors 2088 openfiles 2088 respectively. Even the manpage for sysctl implies this Name Type Changeable kern.maxfiles integer yes kern.maxfilesperproc integer yes Am I missing something obvious? Are these values really updated? S ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Sean O'Connell Email: sean@stat.Duke.EDU Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Phone: (919) 684-5419 Duke University Fax: (919) 684-8594 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 8:39: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218F937BBB7 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:38:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE27E8AF; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:38:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03063; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:38:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14523.63005.58024.976749@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:38:53 -0500 (EST) To: "Sean O'Connell" Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Error: "Maximum file descriptors exceeded"... In-Reply-To: <20000229113443.F21891@stat.Duke.EDU> References: <38BBF0D3.6ED0DFD3@thehousleys.net> <20000229113443.F21891@stat.Duke.EDU> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "SO" == Sean O'Connell writes: SO> I thought this too, but if I run SO> sysctl -w kern.maxfiles=4096 SO> sysctl -w kern.maxfilesperproc=4096 SO> Now: SO> % sysctl kern.maxfiles SO> kern.maxfiles: 4096 SO> % sysctl kern.maxfilesperproc SO> kern.maxfilesperproc: 4096 SO> However, limit -h (tcsh builtin) and limits -H still report SO> descriptors 2088 SO> openfiles 2088 [ ... ] SO> Am I missing something obvious? Are these values really updated? Did you logout and back in? I don't think upping the system-wide limits will dynamically update the limits given to processes that are already started. Logging in again will cause your process (ie, the shell) to have its resource limits set to the current hard limits. ps: Go Duke!!! I really miss the place. ;-( -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 PGP & MIME spoken here http://www.kciLink.com/home/khera/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 8:41:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.96.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE4437BBF3 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:41:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: from baby.int.thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA55832; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:41:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from thehousleys.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby.int.thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21896; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:41:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Message-ID: <38BBF6A5.61A5998@thehousleys.net> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:41:09 -0500 From: James Housley Organization: The Housleys dot Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Sean O'Connell" Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Error: "Maximum file descriptors exceeded"... References: <38BBF0D3.6ED0DFD3@thehousleys.net> <20000229113443.F21891@stat.Duke.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sean O'Connell wrote: > > % sysctl kern.maxfiles > kern.maxfiles: 4096 > % sysctl kern.maxfilesperproc > kern.maxfilesperproc: 4096 > > However, limit -h (tcsh builtin) and limits -H still report > > descriptors 2088 > openfiles 2088 > > respectively. > > Even the manpage for sysctl implies this > > Name Type Changeable > kern.maxfiles integer yes > kern.maxfilesperproc integer yes > > Am I missing something obvious? Are these values really updated? > Logout and back in the shell probably gets the value when spawned/login. Jim -- Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 8:44:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.96.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB23E37BBF6 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:44:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: from baby.int.thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA55854; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:44:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from thehousleys.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby.int.thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21920; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:44:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Message-ID: <38BBF76B.80730ADC@thehousleys.net> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:44:27 -0500 From: James Housley Organization: The Housleys dot Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Sean O'Connell" Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Error: "Maximum file descriptors exceeded"... References: <38BBF0D3.6ED0DFD3@thehousleys.net> <20000229113443.F21891@stat.Duke.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sean O'Connell wrote: > kern.maxfilesperproc integer yes > > Am I missing something obvious? Are these values really updated? > Logout and back in the shell probably gets the value when spawned/login. And if that fixes it you will need to either kill -1 your problem program or kill and restart it so it has the new limits. Jim -- Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 8:46:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isds.duke.edu (davinci.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FC237BBE0 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:46:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sto@stat.Duke.EDU) Received: from cayenne.isds.duke.edu (cayenne.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.11]) by isds.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17410 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:46:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from sto@localhost) by cayenne.isds.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24202 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:46:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:46:51 -0500 From: "Sean O'Connell" To: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Error: "Maximum file descriptors exceeded"... Message-ID: <20000229114651.G21891@stat.Duke.EDU> Reply-To: "Sean O'Connell" Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-STABLE References: <38BBF0D3.6ED0DFD3@thehousleys.net> <20000229113443.F21891@stat.Duke.EDU> <14523.63005.58024.976749@onceler.kcilink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <14523.63005.58024.976749@onceler.kcilink.com>; from khera@kciLink.com on Tue, Feb 29, 2000 at 11:38:53AM -0500 X-Organization: Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Vivek Khera stated: > >>>>> "SO" == Sean O'Connell writes: > > SO> I thought this too, but if I run > > SO> sysctl -w kern.maxfiles=4096 > SO> sysctl -w kern.maxfilesperproc=4096 > > SO> Now: > > SO> % sysctl kern.maxfiles > SO> kern.maxfiles: 4096 > SO> % sysctl kern.maxfilesperproc > SO> kern.maxfilesperproc: 4096 > > SO> However, limit -h (tcsh builtin) and limits -H still report > > SO> descriptors 2088 > SO> openfiles 2088 > > [ ... ] > > SO> Am I missing something obvious? Are these values really updated? > > Did you logout and back in? I don't think upping the system-wide > limits will dynamically update the limits given to processes that are > already started. Logging in again will cause your process (ie, the > shell) to have its resource limits set to the current hard limits. > > ps: Go Duke!!! I really miss the place. ;-( Vivek- D'oh. Sean gets the proverbial pointy hat on that. I did a login from an xterm -ls and it worked. I have too many open windows at the moment. So for the matter at hand, I would suppose that stopping and restarting innd would be all that is needed. S PS. And to think I give people a "hard time" about group membership and the need to logout and log back in. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Sean O'Connell Email: sean@stat.Duke.EDU Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Phone: (919) 684-5419 Duke University Fax: (919) 684-8594 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 8:55:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE53D37BBB7 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:55:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43ABA12252; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:55:17 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20000229113443.F21891@stat.Duke.EDU> References: <38BBF0D3.6ED0DFD3@thehousleys.net> <20000229113443.F21891@stat.Duke.EDU> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:42:06 +0100 To: "Sean O'Connell" , FreeBSD-STABLE From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Error: "Maximum file descriptors exceeded"... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:34 AM -0500 2000/2/29, Sean O'Connell wrote: > % sysctl kern.maxfiles > kern.maxfiles: 4096 > % sysctl kern.maxfilesperproc > kern.maxfilesperproc: 4096 > > However, limit -h (tcsh builtin) and limits -H still report > > descriptors 2088 > openfiles 2088 Have you started a new tcsh since the sysctl? I think that these sorts of things tend to be set by the program when it starts up, and it does not interactively detect an increase. So, you'd need to stop and restart whatever program it is that needs the increased limits. This isn't a problem in my case, since I have repeatedly stopped and restarted the daemon in question. -- These are my opinions and should not be taken as official Skynet policy ========================================================================= Brad Knowles, Sys. Arch., Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of this message. If you are using a Microsoft program to view this message, be forewarned that I am not responsible for any harm you may encounter as a result. See for details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 9: 3:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E4737BC11 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:03:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2CCCBAD; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:02:47 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <38BBF0D3.6ED0DFD3@thehousleys.net> References: <38BBF0D3.6ED0DFD3@thehousleys.net> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:25:56 +0100 To: James Housley From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Error: "Maximum file descriptors exceeded"... Cc: Matt Heckaman , FreeBSD-STABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:16 AM -0500 2000/2/29, James Housley wrote: > housley@cat:~/work/monitors {34} sysctl -a | grep -i file Any my results: $ sysctl -a | grep -i file kern.maxfiles: 32768 kern.bootfile: /kernel kern.maxfilesperproc: 16384 kern.corefile: %N.core p1003_1b.mapped_files: 0 > It looks like updating kern.maxfiles and/or kern.maxfilesperproc should > do the trick. What are the limits set in /etc/login.conf?? I would think so too, but this doesn't seem to be the case. The non-comment lines from my /etc/login.conf were previously posted, and don't set any limits for any user that are any different from what root gets. -- These are my opinions and should not be taken as official Skynet policy ========================================================================= Brad Knowles, Sys. Arch., Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of this message. If you are using a Microsoft program to view this message, be forewarned that I am not responsible for any harm you may encounter as a result. See for details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 9: 3:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E971C37BBDA for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:03:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3144CCE07; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:03:08 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20000229114651.G21891@stat.Duke.EDU> References: <38BBF0D3.6ED0DFD3@thehousleys.net> <20000229113443.F21891@stat.Duke.EDU> <14523.63005.58024.976749@onceler.kcilink.com> <20000229114651.G21891@stat.Duke.EDU> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:53:40 +0100 To: "Sean O'Connell" , FreeBSD-STABLE From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Error: "Maximum file descriptors exceeded"... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:46 AM -0500 2000/2/29, Sean O'Connell wrote: > So for the matter at hand, I would suppose that stopping and restarting > innd would be all that is needed. My problem is with Diablo (not innd), and I've already stopped and restarted it several times. No change. Anyone got any other ideas? -- These are my opinions and should not be taken as official Skynet policy ========================================================================= Brad Knowles, Sys. Arch., Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of this message. If you are using a Microsoft program to view this message, be forewarned that I am not responsible for any harm you may encounter as a result. See for details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 9: 3:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84CD37B510 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:03:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D132CC38; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:03:12 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20000229114651.G21891@stat.Duke.EDU> References: <38BBF0D3.6ED0DFD3@thehousleys.net> <20000229113443.F21891@stat.Duke.EDU> <14523.63005.58024.976749@onceler.kcilink.com> <20000229114651.G21891@stat.Duke.EDU> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:02:38 +0100 To: "Sean O'Connell" , FreeBSD-STABLE From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Error: "Maximum file descriptors exceeded"... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:46 AM -0500 2000/2/29, Sean O'Connell wrote: > So for the matter at hand, I would suppose that stopping and restarting > innd would be all that is needed. Sigh.... The problem turns out to have been a hard-coded limit in Diablo. I've recompiled/stopped/restarted and I'll wait to see if the problem recurs.... Sean, when you're done with it, would you please pass the pointy hat over this way? Thanks everyone! -- These are my opinions and should not be taken as official Skynet policy ========================================================================= Brad Knowles, Sys. Arch., Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of this message. If you are using a Microsoft program to view this message, be forewarned that I am not responsible for any harm you may encounter as a result. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 9:32:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from neptune.innovativeinternet.net (neptune.innovativeinternet.net [208.244.165.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D5DC37BC47 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:32:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Harlan.Stenn@pfcs.com) Received: (qmail 13245 invoked from network); 29 Feb 2000 17:32:26 -0000 Received: from harlan.xecu.net (HELO pcpsj.pfcs.com) (?AftPOk7oWxPYqGOZMYw6XVIy2SWVD5yn?@216.127.150.112) by neptune.innovativeinternet.net with SMTP; 29 Feb 2000 17:32:26 -0000 Received: from mumps.pfcs.com [192.52.69.11] (HELO mumps.pfcs.com) by pcpsj.pfcs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) via ESMTP id ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:32:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from root@pcnbs.pfcs.com [192.52.69.42] (HELO pcnbs.pfcs.com) by mumps.pfcs.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) via ESMTP id ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:32:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from harlan@localhost [127.0.0.1] (HELO pcnbs.pfcs.com) by pcnbs.pfcs.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) via ESMTP id ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:32:08 -0500 (EST) To: Kenneth W Cochran Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable In-Reply-To: Kenneth W Cochran's (kwc@world.std.com) message dated Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:19:59. <200002291419.JAA24813@world.std.com> X-Face: "csXK}xnnsH\h_ce`T#|pM]tG,6Xu.{3Rb\]&XJgVyTS'w{E+|-(}n:c(Cc* $cbtusxDP6T)Hr'k&zrwq0.3&~bAI~YJco[r.mE+K|(q]F=ZNXug:s6tyOk{VTqARy0#axm6BWti9C d User-Agent: EMH/1.10.0 SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.7 (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Y?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=1B=2ED=8E=FEzaki?=) XEmacs/21.1 (patch 8) (Bryce Canyon) (i386-unknown-freebsd3.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:32:08 -0500 Message-ID: <71142.951845528@pcnbs.pfcs.com> From: Harlan Stenn Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had the same problem. I re-CVSup'd as of yesterday (or so), did a "make buildworld" and "make installworld" (ran mergemaster and installed a new kernel, but I don't recall if I've booted that new kernel yet) and then the xpdf build worked just fine. H To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 9:44: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.Stanford.EDU (smtp.Stanford.EDU [171.64.14.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A2A37BC11 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:43:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cscox@Stanford.EDU) Received: from tree0.Stanford.EDU (tree0.Stanford.EDU [171.64.14.231]) by smtp.Stanford.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09118 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:43:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:43:49 -0800 (PST) From: Charles Cox To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: codecrusader and ntp Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I am trying to get the ports/devel/codecrusader and ports/net/ntp ports to build and install. I am not having a lot of luck. Has anyone else gotten either of these to install successfully and if so, how? The problem I have with codecrusader is that it goes through an entire build, and seems to install itself and register itself, but then the executable is just nowhere to be found. The ntp port just seems to have a bug in the code. Both of these ports have open bug reports, but there is not much of use in the bug reports. The codecrusader bug report has a supposed fix, but I tried that and it doesn't seem to work. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 9:49:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from argon.blackdawn.com (deepspace9.dcds.edu [207.231.151.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE23C37BC47 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:48:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from will@blackdawn.com) Received: by argon.blackdawn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EF6F61A63; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:48:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:48:00 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Kenneth W Cochran Cc: "Chris D. Faulhaber" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable Message-ID: <20000229124800.C479@argon.blackdawn.com> References: <200002291511.KAA04016@world.std.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200002291511.KAA04016@world.std.com>; from kwc@world.std.com on Tue, Feb 29, 2000 at 10:11:03AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Feb 29, 2000 at 10:11:03AM -0500, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: > What? Amazing... I'd never have guessed *that*... > I generally stay out of makefiles (at least "officially") & try > to rely on the appropriate READMEs, etc. (Ie. I "start out" in > "semi-dumb-user" mode... :) You can obtain the MAINTAINER email address by typing "make maintainer" in the port's root directory and pressing enter. :-P -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 9:51: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from neptune.innovativeinternet.net (neptune.innovativeinternet.net [208.244.165.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9139F37BCB0 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:50:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Harlan.Stenn@pfcs.com) Received: (qmail 13311 invoked from network); 29 Feb 2000 17:50:45 -0000 Received: from harlan.xecu.net (HELO pcpsj.pfcs.com) (?6R2/4RM5qi8GnbiSfPeYW2cNccmsHlmk?@216.127.150.112) by neptune.innovativeinternet.net with SMTP; 29 Feb 2000 17:50:45 -0000 Received: from mumps.pfcs.com [192.52.69.11] (HELO mumps.pfcs.com) by pcpsj.pfcs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) via ESMTP id ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:50:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from root@pcnbs.pfcs.com [192.52.69.42] (HELO pcnbs.pfcs.com) by mumps.pfcs.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) via ESMTP id ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:50:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from harlan@localhost [127.0.0.1] (HELO pcnbs.pfcs.com) by pcnbs.pfcs.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) via ESMTP id ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:50:29 -0500 (EST) To: Charles Cox Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: codecrusader and ntp In-Reply-To: Charles Cox's (cscox@Stanford.EDU) message dated Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:43:49. X-Face: "csXK}xnnsH\h_ce`T#|pM]tG,6Xu.{3Rb\]&XJgVyTS'w{E+|-(}n:c(Cc* $cbtusxDP6T)Hr'k&zrwq0.3&~bAI~YJco[r.mE+K|(q]F=ZNXug:s6tyOk{VTqARy0#axm6BWti9C d User-Agent: EMH/1.10.0 SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.7 (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Y?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=1B=2ED=8E=FEzaki?=) XEmacs/21.1 (patch 8) (Bryce Canyon) (i386-unknown-freebsd3.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:50:29 -0500 Message-ID: <71214.951846629@pcnbs.pfcs.com> From: Harlan Stenn Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The NTP distribution from builds out-of the box. will get you to the same place. It's running on a FreeBSD box at UDel, and I run that release most everywhere. If there are open bug reports on NTP, these reports have not made it to UDel. The latest release is ntp-4.0.99g, a production release candidate. H To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 10: 7: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from malasada.lava.net (malasada.lava.net [199.222.42.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D6F37B82C for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:06:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cliftonr@lava.net) Received: from localhost (2391 bytes) by malasada.lava.net via sendmail with P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:06:37 -1000 (HST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #3 built 1999-Dec-7) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:06:37 -1000 From: Clifton Royston To: Matt Heckaman Cc: Kenneth W Cochran , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable Message-ID: <20000229080637.F5108@lava.net> References: <200002291419.JAA24813@world.std.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Feb 29, 2000 at 09:30:50AM -0500, Matt Heckaman wrote: ... > The real question is, with the new US legislation, I've seen Microsoft > claim that they can make high encryption available to anyone. Can we do > the same? I claim absolutely no legal knowledge though, just something I > saw on windows update regarding the high encryption package for win2k. My understanding is that it has to be provided as binary, not source, which seems like kind of a show-stopper for open source OSes. Make sense? I didn't think so. However... has anybody looked at the install procedure for OpenBSD 2.6? It's really really slick. (Excuse me while I rave...) As part of the installation procedure, if you configure the network, after installing the first bunch of binaries off the CD, it brings the network up (if it can) and prompts you for the correct legal source to download the crypto modules from, depending on whether or not you're in the US, then goes ahead and tries to fetch it for you. Once you've got the crypto module downloaded, it finishes building/installing the essential packages that depend on it, like OpenSSH. The out-of-box install came up in the mode that it usually takes me a couple hours of work to reach: sshd installed, running and accepting connections, and nearly all other services disabled until you turn them on, so it's actually safe to bring up on a network from the beginning. IMHO, this would be a great direction for FreeBSD to go in to solve both the crypto dependency problem, and the initial insecurity problem. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- LavaNet Systems Architect -- cliftonr@lava.net The named which can be named is not the Eternal named. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 10:10:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.uunet.ca (mail5.uunet.ca [142.77.1.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A9437B82C for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:10:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca ([216.95.146.6]) by mail5.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <231098-27729>; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:11:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:10:04 -0500 From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Clifton Royston Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable In-Reply-To: <20000229080637.F5108@lava.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes, I think this could be done providing the host exporting the crypto is in a slightly more free country like Canada. I'm sure our Canadian users would be happy to aide in this, I'd be willing to host a crypto dist here in Montreal (on uunet). Matt -- Matt Heckaman [matt@arpa.mail.net|matt@relic.net] [Please do not send me] !Powered by FreeBSD/x86! [http://www.freebsd.org] [any SPAM (UCE) e-mail] On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Clifton Royston wrote: : Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:06:37 -0500 : From: Clifton Royston : To: Matt Heckaman : Cc: Kenneth W Cochran , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org : Subject: Re: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable : : On Tue, Feb 29, 2000 at 09:30:50AM -0500, Matt Heckaman wrote: : ... : > The real question is, with the new US legislation, I've seen Microsoft : > claim that they can make high encryption available to anyone. Can we do : > the same? I claim absolutely no legal knowledge though, just something I : > saw on windows update regarding the high encryption package for win2k. : : My understanding is that it has to be provided as binary, not source, : which seems like kind of a show-stopper for open source OSes. Make : sense? I didn't think so. : : However... has anybody looked at the install procedure for OpenBSD : 2.6? It's really really slick. (Excuse me while I rave...) As part of : the installation procedure, if you configure the network, after : installing the first bunch of binaries off the CD, it brings the : network up (if it can) and prompts you for the correct legal source to : download the crypto modules from, depending on whether or not you're in : the US, then goes ahead and tries to fetch it for you. Once you've got : the crypto module downloaded, it finishes building/installing the : essential packages that depend on it, like OpenSSH. The out-of-box : install came up in the mode that it usually takes me a couple hours of : work to reach: sshd installed, running and accepting connections, and : nearly all other services disabled until you turn them on, so it's : actually safe to bring up on a network from the beginning. : : IMHO, this would be a great direction for FreeBSD to go in to solve : both the crypto dependency problem, and the initial insecurity problem. : -- Clifton : : -- : Clifton Royston -- LavaNet Systems Architect -- cliftonr@lava.net : The named which can be named is not the Eternal named. : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 10:19:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from speedy.rtfm.com (speedy.rtfm.com [216.98.239.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C61B37BCA2 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:19:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ekr@rtfm.com) Received: from romeo.rtfm.com (romeo.rtfm.com [216.98.239.227]) by speedy.rtfm.com (8.9.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA08608; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:20:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (ekr@localhost) by romeo.rtfm.com (8.9.3/8.6.4) id KAA07371; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:20:53 -0800 (PST) To: Matt Heckaman Cc: Clifton Royston , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable References: From: EKR Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 29 Feb 2000 10:20:53 -0800 In-Reply-To: Matt Heckaman's message of "Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:10:04 -0500" Message-ID: Lines: 19 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matt Heckaman writes: > Yes, I think this could be done providing the host exporting the crypto is > in a slightly more free country like Canada. I'm sure our Canadian users > would be happy to aide in this, I'd be willing to host a crypto dist here > in Montreal (on uunet). The US government has essentially lifted all crypto export controls on Open Source software. There's no longer any problem with exporting strong crypto. All that is required is that you provide BXA a pointer to the web site when the crypto is first posted. -Ekr -- [Eric Rescorla ekr@rtfm.com] PureTLS - free SSLv3/TLS software for Java http://www.rtfm.com/puretls/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 11:16:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from malasada.lava.net (malasada.lava.net [199.222.42.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45AB437BC7E for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:16:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cliftonr@lava.net) Received: from localhost (1852 bytes) by malasada.lava.net via sendmail with P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:16:35 -1000 (HST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #3 built 1999-Dec-7) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:16:35 -1000 From: Clifton Royston To: EKR Cc: Matt Heckaman , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable Message-ID: <20000229091635.A23590@lava.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Feb 29, 2000 at 10:20:53AM -0800, EKR wrote: > Matt Heckaman writes: > > > Yes, I think this could be done providing the host exporting the crypto is > > in a slightly more free country like Canada. I'm sure our Canadian users > > would be happy to aide in this, I'd be willing to host a crypto dist here > > in Montreal (on uunet). > The US government has essentially lifted all crypto export controls > on Open Source software. There's no longer any problem with > exporting strong crypto. > > All that is required is that you provide BXA a pointer to the > web site when the crypto is first posted. But isn't there a US patent issue (though it might expire later this year, I believe) preventing distributing or using RSA code inside the US without a license, unless you use RSA's approved reference version? And my understanding is that the latter has various legal conditions attached and so is undesirable for anybody outside the US. If I understand their rules, I'm stretching it a bit by using from my home machine to work, for instance. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- LavaNet Systems Architect -- cliftonr@lava.net The named which can be named is not the Eternal named. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 12:32:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE7E637BCF6 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:32:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <115215>; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:32:58 +1100 Content-return: prohibited From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: Tuning: FreeBSD as static router with 6 fast ethernet cards In-reply-to: <38BBA436.DF044D61@osi-technologies.com>; from lluisma@osi-technologies.com on Tue, Feb 29, 2000 at 09:52:42PM +1100 To: lluisma Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Message-Id: <00Mar1.073258est.115215@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <38BBA436.DF044D61@osi-technologies.com> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:32:58 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2000-Feb-29 21:52:42 +1100, lluisma wrote: >I have this opportunity to use freebsd as a router serving 15 subnets ... >Is there any special tuning I can do to maximize routing >performance under the above setup? I can't think of any. > Should I increase values for bpfilter and maxusers? I'm not sure whether ipfilter uses bpfilter to get at the packets. If it does, you'll need to increase it to at least 6 (and it will be handy to have a few spares so you can use tcpdump). If you'll have all 1200 PCs simultaneously logged into SAMBA, you'll need to increase maxusers to about 80 (which gives you 1300 processes, 1792 mbuf clusters and 2600 files). You'll definitely need to increase NMBCLUSTERS, and maybe MAXFILES. > What kernel options should I focus on? Set NMBCLUSTERS fairly high (say around 4000) and monitor the usage with "netstat -m". Make sure the max mbuf clusters (set via NMBCLUSTERS) is around 50% above the peak usage. Very nasty things happen when you run out of mbuf clusters. Keep an eye on the number of open files (with "pstat -T") and increase MAXFILES if it looks like you're running short. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 14:47:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.twave.net (twave.net [206.100.228.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D2DE837BB1F for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:47:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brameld@twave.net) Received: from [208.219.234.57] by mail.twave.net (NTMail 3.03.0018/1.abwg) with ESMTP id xa860207 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:47:20 -0500 Received: from Bozo_3.BozoLand.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Bozo_3.BozoLand.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA01512; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:47:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from brameld@twave.net) From: Walter Brameld To: Harlan Stenn , Charles Cox Subject: Re: codecrusader and ntp Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:45:53 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <71214.951846629@pcnbs.pfcs.com> In-Reply-To: <71214.951846629@pcnbs.pfcs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00022917471203.00702@Bozo_3.BozoLand.domain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, in a never-ending search for enlightenment, Harlan Stenn wrote: > The NTP distribution from builds out-of the box. > > will get you to the same place. > > It's running on a FreeBSD box at UDel, and I run that release most > everywhere. > > If there are open bug reports on NTP, these reports have not made it to > UDel. > > The latest release is ntp-4.0.99g, a production release candidate. > > H And the name of the executable for code crusader is jcc, which of course ou were supposed to know 8-P. On my system it's in /usr/local/bin. Go here for more information: http://www.newplanetsoftware.com/jcc/ -- Walter Brameld in·tel·lec·tu·al n. Someone who has been educated past his/her level of intelligence. Join the Army, meet interesting people, kill them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 17:36: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F1637BDA4 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:34:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from slave (doug@slave [10.0.0.1]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA44366; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:34:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:34:44 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Barton X-Sender: doug@dt051n0b.san.rr.com To: Brad Knowles Cc: Matt Heckaman , FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Error: "Maximum file descriptors exceeded"... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 10:51 AM -0500 2000/2/29, Matt Heckaman wrote: > > > To be quite honest with you, I'm not very sure where this idea came from > > that MAXUSERS > 128 is bad, I've been running configs like that for quite > > a while (I guess ( 3.1+)) and never had a bit of trouble, minus the time > > I had a hard drive fail, but that doesn't really count =) > > This particular machine is in production and running 3.2-RELEASE, > so MAXUSERS > 128 might still be a problem. I used to run 2.2.x machines with maxusers at 512. That number on 3.2-Release will not be a problem. > I can't take the machine > out of production, so upgrading the OS really isn't an option. First rule of system administration, never leave yourself without options. Doug -- "Welcome to the desert of the real." - Laurence Fishburne as Morpheus, "The Matrix" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 17:47:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail0.aimnet.ne.jp (mail0.aimnet.ne.jp [210.189.152.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8EA37BCA9 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:47:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yuzi-s@aimnet.ne.jp) Received: from suzucom (aim-gate.aimnet.ne.jp [210.189.152.253]) by mail0.aimnet.ne.jp (8.9.3/3.7W-aimnet) with SMTP id KAA86872 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:47:37 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200003010147.KAA86872@mail0.aimnet.ne.jp> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: yuzi-s@aimnet.ne.jp Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 10:50:55 +0900 X-Mailer: WeMail32[1.52] ID:1A1049 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 18: 1:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from waltz.rahul.net (waltz.rahul.net [192.160.13.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D02037BC74 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:01:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhesi@rahul.net) Received: by waltz.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 104) id 1767999DFA; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:01:13 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: divert(4) non-working code example Newsgroups: a2i.lists.freebsd-stable References: X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) Message-Id: <20000301020113.1767999DFA@waltz.rahul.net> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:01:13 -0800 (PST) From: dhesi@rahul.net (Rahul Dhesi) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ruslan Ermilov writes: >> Never mind! I searched old mailing list archives and found that >> I needed to do htons(port). What threw me off was that I was >> consulting the natd(8) sources and they didn't bother doing so. >> >Why do you spread such misinformation? >See StrToPort() function in natd(8) sources. I see now that natd does use htons(). However, natd does the conversion between host order and network order in places that are far away from the actual assignment to and from fields in a socket structure. Hard to follow and easy to miss. -- Rahul Dhesi (spam-filtered with RSS and ORBS) See my ORBS faq: http://www.rahul.net/dhesi/orbs.faq.txt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 18: 9:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id 60D2C37B76D; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:09:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9872E8109; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:09:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@hub.freebsd.org) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:09:47 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Clifton Royston Cc: Matt Heckaman , Kenneth W Cochran , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable In-Reply-To: <20000229080637.F5108@lava.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Clifton Royston wrote: > My understanding is that it has to be provided as binary, not source, > which seems like kind of a show-stopper for open source OSes. Make > sense? I didn't think so. We're still waiting on a legal interpretation of the new regs from WC's lawyers..but it certainly seems like (subject to some procedural restrictions) we would be allowed to export crypto now. The "some restrictions" is the bit which needs to be clarified before we start doing it, to make sure no-one gets in trouble. > However... has anybody looked at the install procedure for OpenBSD > 2.6? It's really really slick. (Excuse me while I rave...) As part of Sounds like you're going to love FreeBSD 4.0, then, which does exactly this (OpenSSH is in the base system and enabled out of the box if you choose it, along with OpenSSL (strong crypto toolkit)). I think we've managed to do a better job of it than OpenBSD, too, at least under the hood (I haven't seen Jordan's sysinstall changes in action yet). Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 18:14:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id D8F9737BCEC; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:14:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B6B2E8158; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:14:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@hub.freebsd.org) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:14:14 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Clifton Royston Cc: EKR , Matt Heckaman , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable In-Reply-To: <20000229091635.A23590@lava.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Clifton Royston wrote: > But isn't there a US patent issue (though it might expire later this > year, I believe) preventing distributing or using RSA code inside the > US without a license, unless you use RSA's approved reference version? Yes. Section 6.5 in the handbook attempts to explain the issues, but please note that it doesn't describe the current state of OpenSSL in FreeBSD 4.0 and will be changing in the next few days to better reflect reality. > And my understanding is that the latter has various legal conditions > attached and so is undesirable for anybody outside the US. If I It's not illegal, but no-one outside the US should be using it because, pure and simple, it's crap. Slow as cold molasses, and can't handle keys greater than 1024 bits. The OpenSSL native RSA implementation is much faster, so you really want to use that one if you're allowed to (which means everyone except people in the US). > understand their rules, I'm stretching it a bit by using from my home > machine to work, for instance. Right, for US people there ARE legal strings attached, because RSAREF is not licensed for general use, but it's the only version you may use. You can only use it for 'noncommercial purposes' - for an exact definition of that see /usr/ports/security/rsaref/files/LICENSE or LICENSE.english for an (RSA-supplied) english interpretation. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 19:21: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rlee.integratus.com (rlee.rdsl.co.lmi.net [207.174.195.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2132037BD3B for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:20:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rel@integratus.com) Received: from localhost (rel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rlee.integratus.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA49299 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 20:21:55 GMT (envelope-from rel@integratus.com) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 20:21:54 +0000 (GMT) From: "Robert E. Lee" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: codecrusader and ntp In-Reply-To: <71214.951846629@pcnbs.pfcs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Harlan Stenn wrote: > If there are open bug reports on NTP, these reports have not made it to > UDel. I believe he was referring to the bug reports at http://bento.freebsd.org/errorlogs/3-full/ntp-4.0.93a.log and http://bento.freebsd.org/errorlogs/3-full/code_crusader-2.1.4.log See the full list of ports errors at: http://bento.freebsd.org/errorlogs/ Robert E. Lee Sun Enterprise Certified Engineer Senior Technical Consultant, Integratus Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 19:28:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from neptune.innovativeinternet.net (neptune.innovativeinternet.net [208.244.165.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B798B37BC1A for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:28:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Harlan.Stenn@pfcs.com) Received: (qmail 16383 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2000 03:28:22 -0000 Received: from harlan.xecu.net (HELO pcpsj.pfcs.com) (?V5np/r6PpJxuxUOTVs6JAXLX1F+BEyCp?@216.127.150.112) by neptune.innovativeinternet.net with SMTP; 1 Mar 2000 03:28:22 -0000 Received: from mumps.pfcs.com [192.52.69.11] (HELO mumps.pfcs.com) by pcpsj.pfcs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) via ESMTP id ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:28:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from brown.pfcs.com [192.52.69.44] (HELO brown.pfcs.com) by mumps.pfcs.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) via ESMTP id ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:28:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.pfcs.com [127.0.0.1] (HELO brown.pfcs.com) by brown.pfcs.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) via ESMTP id ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:28:05 -0500 (EST) To: "Robert E. Lee" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: codecrusader and ntp In-Reply-To: "Robert E. Lee"'s (rel@integratus.com) message dated Tue, 29 Feb 2000 20:21:54. X-Face: "csXK}xnnsH\h_ce`T#|pM]tG,6Xu.{3Rb\]&XJgVyTS'w{E+|-(}n:c(Cc* $cbtusxDP6T)Hr'k&zrwq0.3&~bAI~YJco[r.mE+K|(q]F=ZNXug:s6tyOk{VTqARy0#axm6BWti9C d User-Agent: EMH/1.10.0 SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.7 (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Y?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=1B=2ED=8E=FEzaki?=) XEmacs/21.1 (20 Minutes to Nikko) (i386-unknown-freebsd2.2.8) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:28:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3434.951881284@brown.pfcs.com> From: Harlan Stenn Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK, the NTP problem is an old bug that has already been fixed. There was a time in 3-STABLE where some of the time structures went from microseconds to nanoseconds (as I recall). H To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 19:51:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tinc-org.com (tinc-org.com [64.6.65.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7473B37BD77 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:51:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff@jeffenstein.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tinc-org.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id VAA04141 Tue, 29 Feb 2000 21:50:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeff@jeffenstein.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by localhost.jeffnet (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA07075; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 21:44:56 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeff@jeffenstein.org) Received: from frogger.jeffnet(192.168.243.1), claiming to be "frogger-int" via SMTP by frogger.jeffnet, id smtpdHV7073; Tue Feb 29 21:44:51 2000 Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 21:44:50 -0600 (CST) From: Jeff Fisher X-Sender: jeff@localhost To: Martin@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru Cc: daniel@unix.os.org.za, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: panic fault In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Daniel Schroder wrote: > > > Hello stable@FreeBSD.ORG, > > > > please, look this: > > Sure , could you please send the memory in > question to me , and I'll have a look at it with pleasure :) > > It's possibily a hardware memory fault. I had this happen to me just yesterday. It turned out to be bad memory. BTW, sort < /dev/zero seemed to be a good way to tickle this bug for me, since memory was the culprit. That trick let me test it at will, since the crashes were rather intermittent. > > --Daniel Schroder (Private email daniel@unix.os.org.za) > Unix users .. South Africa > > To : stable@FreeBSD.ORG > From : Martin McFlySr > date : Feb 29 > Address : Martin@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru > Quality is a standard .. not a selling point > > On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Martin McFlySr wrote: > > > Hello stable@FreeBSD.ORG, > > > > please, look this: > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Fatal trap 12 : page fault while in kernel mode > > fault virtual address = 0x0 > > fault code = supervisor write, page not present > > instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc014a750 > > stack pointer = 0x10:0xc0855ae4 > > frame pointer = 0x10:0xc0255af0 > > code segment = base 0x0, limir 0xfffff, type 0x1b > > = DPL 0, press 1, def32 1, gran1 > > precossor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL=0 > > current process = Idle > > interrupt mask = bio > > trap number = 12 > > panic: page fault > > syncinc disk: 141,141,141,141, ..... > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- jeff@jeffenstein.org http://www.jeffenstein.org Microsoft: Where do you want to go today? Linux: Where do you want to go tomorrow? FreeBSD: Are you guys coming or what? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 20:33:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nhj.nlc.net.au (nhj.nlc.net.au [203.24.133.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5DF4937BDC0 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 20:33:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john@nlc.net.au) Received: (qmail 660 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2000 15:33:29 +1100 Received: from nhj.nlc.net.au (HELO vecomm3) (203.24.133.1) by nhj.nlc.net.au with SMTP; 1 Mar 2000 15:33:29 +1100 Message-ID: <01a201bf8337$245603c0$4ab511cb@scitec.com.au> From: "John Saunders" To: "Bill Fenner" Cc: , "FreeBSD stable" References: <200002162354.PAA00567@windsor.research.att.com> Subject: Re: bin/10344 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:32:15 +1100 Organization: NORTHLINK COMMUNICATIONS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_019F_01BF8393.52335430" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_019F_01BF8393.52335430 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I disagree -- bind 8.2.2p5's res_nsend() returns resplen, which is the > non-adjusted length of the reply that was read from the server. I've done a complete analysis on the problem, what we have is a simple case of running off the end of the buffer. The function gethostanswer is passed a querybuf which has a size of 1024 bytes (determined by the #define MAXPACKET), a DNS answer length (which in the test case is 7460), and 2 other paramters which don't concern the problem at hand. The function then constructs a pointer 'cp' to the starts of the 1024 byte querybuf. It also constructs a pointer 'eom' to indicate the end of the buffer. Then inside a while statement it extracts each answer. The while loop terminates if either all answers have been extracted, or when 'cp' exceeds 'eom', or if an error occured. The problem is in the construction of the 'eom' pointer, currently the code uses the DNS answer length to calculate this. However in the test case the answer is greater than the buffer size. This allows the while loop to step the 'cp' pointer past the end of the buffer. The code is... eom = answer->buf + anslen; The corrected code is as follows. It correctly calculates the 'eom' position for the case of the DNS answer length being longer than the buffer the answer is provided in. eom = answer->buf + (anslen > MAXPACKET ? MAXPACKET : anslen); Other interesting info. If I redefine MAXPACKET to be 2048 I am able to get a few more results. If I change it to 4096 then a call to BOUNDS_CHECK fails and the function returns a NULL. The included patch alters the way BOUNDS_CHECK works so that the truncated packet can be handled nicely. I was able to increase some defines to get more answers back after this change. I am not sure of the affect on other parts of the system if suddenly more answers come back. So I would suggest that MAXADDRS and MAXALIASES remain at 35 and MAXPACKET at 1024. The patch also removes your "return (NULL)" that you committed, however I thought that leaving the dprintf in would be a good warning. Cheers. --- gethostbydns.c.orig Sat Feb 26 11:55:47 2000 +++ gethostbydns.c Wed Mar 1 15:03:57 2000 @@ -79,8 +79,8 @@ #define SPRINTF(x) ((size_t)sprintf x) -#define MAXALIASES 35 -#define MAXADDRS 35 +#define MAXALIASES 300 +#define MAXADDRS 300 static const char AskedForGot[] = "gethostby*.gethostanswer: asked for \"%s\", got \"%s\""; @@ -99,7 +99,7 @@ #if PACKETSZ > 1024 #define MAXPACKET PACKETSZ #else -#define MAXPACKET 1024 +#define MAXPACKET 8192 #endif typedef union { @@ -142,12 +142,7 @@ } while (0) #define BOUNDS_CHECK(ptr, count) \ - do { \ - if ((ptr) + (count) > eom) { \ - h_errno = NO_RECOVERY; \ - return (NULL); \ - } \ - } while (0) + ((ptr) + (count) > eom) static struct hostent * gethostanswer(answer, anslen, qname, qtype) @@ -170,7 +165,7 @@ tname = qname; host.h_name = NULL; - eom = answer->buf + anslen; + eom = answer->buf + (anslen > MAXPACKET ? MAXPACKET : anslen); switch (qtype) { case T_A: case T_AAAA: @@ -235,7 +230,11 @@ continue; } cp += n; /* name */ - BOUNDS_CHECK(cp, 3 * INT16SZ + INT32SZ); + if (BOUNDS_CHECK(cp, 3 * INT16SZ + INT32SZ)) + { + had_error++; + continue; + } type = _getshort(cp); cp += INT16SZ; /* type */ class = _getshort(cp); @@ -245,7 +244,11 @@ cp += INT32SZ; /* TTL */ n = _getshort(cp); cp += INT16SZ; /* len */ - BOUNDS_CHECK(cp, n); + if (BOUNDS_CHECK(cp, n)) + { + had_error++; + continue; + } erdata = cp + n; if (class != C_IN) { /* XXX - debug? syslog? */ @@ -666,7 +669,6 @@ } if (n > sizeof buf.buf) { dprintf("static buffer is too small (%d)\n", n); - return (NULL); } if (!(hp = gethostanswer(&buf, n, qbuf, T_PTR))) return (NULL); /* h_errno was set by gethostanswer() */ -- +------------------------------------------------------------+ . | John Saunders - mailto:john@nlc.net.au (EMail) | ,--_|\ | - http://www.nlc.net.au/ (WWW) | / Oz \ | - 02-9489-4932 or 041-822-3814 (Phone) | \_,--\_/ | NORTHLINK COMMUNICATIONS P/L - Supplying a professional, | v | and above all friendly, internet connection service. | +------------------------------------------------------------+ ------=_NextPart_000_019F_01BF8393.52335430 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="gethostbydns.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="gethostbydns.diff" --- gethostbydns.c.orig Sat Feb 26 11:55:47 2000=0A= +++ gethostbydns.c Wed Mar 1 15:03:57 2000=0A= @@ -79,8 +79,8 @@=0A= =0A= #define SPRINTF(x) ((size_t)sprintf x)=0A= =0A= -#define MAXALIASES 35=0A= -#define MAXADDRS 35=0A= +#define MAXALIASES 300=0A= +#define MAXADDRS 300=0A= =0A= static const char AskedForGot[] =3D=0A= "gethostby*.gethostanswer: asked for \"%s\", got \"%s\"";=0A= @@ -99,7 +99,7 @@=0A= #if PACKETSZ > 1024=0A= #define MAXPACKET PACKETSZ=0A= #else=0A= -#define MAXPACKET 1024=0A= +#define MAXPACKET 8192=0A= #endif=0A= =0A= typedef union {=0A= @@ -142,12 +142,7 @@=0A= } while (0)=0A= =0A= #define BOUNDS_CHECK(ptr, count) \=0A= - do { \=0A= - if ((ptr) + (count) > eom) { \=0A= - h_errno =3D NO_RECOVERY; \=0A= - return (NULL); \=0A= - } \=0A= - } while (0)=0A= + ((ptr) + (count) > eom)=0A= =0A= static struct hostent *=0A= gethostanswer(answer, anslen, qname, qtype)=0A= @@ -170,7 +165,7 @@=0A= =0A= tname =3D qname;=0A= host.h_name =3D NULL;=0A= - eom =3D answer->buf + anslen;=0A= + eom =3D answer->buf + (anslen > MAXPACKET ? MAXPACKET : anslen);=0A= switch (qtype) {=0A= case T_A:=0A= case T_AAAA:=0A= @@ -235,7 +230,11 @@=0A= continue;=0A= }=0A= cp +=3D n; /* name */=0A= - BOUNDS_CHECK(cp, 3 * INT16SZ + INT32SZ);=0A= + if (BOUNDS_CHECK(cp, 3 * INT16SZ + INT32SZ))=0A= + {=0A= + had_error++;=0A= + continue;=0A= + }=0A= type =3D _getshort(cp);=0A= cp +=3D INT16SZ; /* type */=0A= class =3D _getshort(cp);=0A= @@ -245,7 +244,11 @@=0A= cp +=3D INT32SZ; /* TTL */=0A= n =3D _getshort(cp);=0A= cp +=3D INT16SZ; /* len */=0A= - BOUNDS_CHECK(cp, n);=0A= + if (BOUNDS_CHECK(cp, n))=0A= + {=0A= + had_error++;=0A= + continue;=0A= + }=0A= erdata =3D cp + n;=0A= if (class !=3D C_IN) {=0A= /* XXX - debug? syslog? */=0A= @@ -666,7 +669,6 @@=0A= }=0A= if (n > sizeof buf.buf) {=0A= dprintf("static buffer is too small (%d)\n", n);=0A= - return (NULL);=0A= }=0A= if (!(hp =3D gethostanswer(&buf, n, qbuf, T_PTR)))=0A= return (NULL); /* h_errno was set by gethostanswer() */=0A= ------=_NextPart_000_019F_01BF8393.52335430-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 20:48:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254E137BDC4 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 20:48:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kwc@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com (root@world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by europe.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA05339 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:48:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kwc@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA29585; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:47:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:47:07 -0500 (EST) From: Kenneth W Cochran Message-Id: <200003010447.XAA29585@world.std.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Fixed: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all (again)... Many thanks for the prompt & thorough responses to my "little xpdf problem." I appreciate your suggestions in my getting this working. As Chuck Robey (chuckr@picnic.mat.net) pointed out (& as I found out myself upon some poking-around aka "hacking" :), my problem was actually in a dependency-build, namely "t1lib." Well, I got it (xpdf) working; here's what I did: (aka "lessons learned" that I've not been able to find in docs/Handbook or in Greg's 3rd Edition... :) 1. Cvsup my ports. (I've been tracking -stable in src-all for some time now.) Apparently it is a *Very* Good Idea to track -ports (ie. cvsup ports-all) if you're tracking -stable. A couple of folks suggested this... :) 2. Tried the make again. It bombed again, but this time make complained about not being able to cd into t1lib's work directory. I removed the files in that directory & tried the make again. This time it downloaded a newer t1lib version, built it & completed the entire procedure. I now have a working xpdf. :) Notes: 1. I bet there is a make target that would have taken care of my t1lib boo-boo; it would be nice if I could find some "definitive list" of the various Ports-related make targets & functions, but it would not surprise me if it changes with maintenance... I've seen some mention of these here on the list... 2. My original "goal" of being able to get my ports distfiles off the CDs seems much less workagle in this case. At this point I'm not sure how to deal with this... 3. My little issue here seems to have touched-off mini-discussion on some crypto legalities/politics. :) I was not aware of some of this & I'm glad this stuff has been brought to light. Again, thanks for all your help & the resulting interesting "threads." -kc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 22:10:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server1.huntsvilleal.com (www.huntsvilleal.com [207.13.224.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3F0437BDE9 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:10:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@hiwaay.net) Received: from barricuda.bsd.nws.net (kris.huntsvilleal.com [207.13.224.46]) by server1.huntsvilleal.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA23928; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 00:52:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by barricuda.bsd.nws.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA20293; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 00:10:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kris@hiwaay.net) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 00:10:09 -0600 (CST) From: Kris Kirby To: lluisma Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Tuning: FreeBSD as static router with 6 fast ethernet cards In-Reply-To: <38BBA436.DF044D61@osi-technologies.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have this opportunity to use freebsd as a router serving 15 subnets > with six fast ethernet cards(will do aliasing to support all 15 subnets) > supporting about 1,200 PCs running windows. In addition, this freebsd > router will also run samba 2.0.6( to act as local master browser for > all subnets) and ipfilter and nothing else. All PCs are connected to > switches with 10/100 mbit ports. Might be better to use three dual 10/100 ethernet cards. ---- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR | TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. | ------------------------------------------------------- "God gave them the ability to reproduce... ... Science gave us the hope they won't." -KBK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 29 23:33:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B74A37BC88 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:33:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from forrestc@workhorse.iMach.com) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA01069 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 00:31:06 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 00:31:05 -0700 (MST) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: When does 4.x become -STABLE? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm not sure if this is a stupid question or not. With the advent of 4.0-RELEASE, does this mean that 4.0-STABLE will soon follow along with 5.0-CURRENT? Or better put, how will the existance of 4.0-RELEASE affect development overall in the FreeBSD world? (Although I have been using FreeBSD for a few years, I have never before been tracking -STABLE when a new major release came out.) - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) KD7EHZ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 1: 3:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC5437BE57 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 01:03:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8854C123A9; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:03:21 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:56:14 +0100 To: Doug Barton From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Error: "Maximum file descriptors exceeded"... Cc: Matt Heckaman , FreeBSD-STABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 5:34 PM -0800 2000/2/29, Doug Barton wrote: > I used to run 2.2.x machines with maxusers at 512. That number on > 3.2-Release will not be a problem. I have since gotten confirmation from Joe Greco that MAXUSERS > 128 is a very real problem on 3.2-RELEASE. I figure Joe knows a heck of a lot more about FreeBSD than I am ever likely to know, and he certainly knows a lot more about Diablo (the application I was having the problems with) than I ever will. This is why he is the person giving the talk at SANE 2000 on building world-class USENET news services with commodity components (scalable from 300k users to millions of users, and starting at 1.8TB of storage, see ), and not me. > First rule of system administration, never leave yourself without > options. It would be nice if the real world allowed people to actually follow such rules. -- These are my opinions and should not be taken as official Skynet policy ========================================================================= Brad Knowles, Sys. Arch., Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of this message. If you are using a Microsoft program to view this message, be forewarned that I am not responsible for any harm you may encounter as a result. See for details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 1:18:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920BA37BE23 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 01:18:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA67274; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 01:27:37 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 01:27:36 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Walter Brameld Cc: Harlan Stenn , Charles Cox , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: codecrusader and ntp Message-ID: <20000301012736.A66893@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <71214.951846629@pcnbs.pfcs.com> <00022917471203.00702@Bozo_3.BozoLand.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <00022917471203.00702@Bozo_3.BozoLand.domain>; from Walter Brameld on Tue, Feb 29, 2000 at 05:45:53PM -0500 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Feb 29, 2000 at 05:45:53PM -0500, Walter Brameld wrote: > And the name of the executable for code crusader is jcc, which of > course ou were supposed to know 8-P. On my system it's in > /usr/local/bin. Tip: When you install a port/package, and want to know what commands it has, try grep bin /var/db/pkg//+CONTENT this will show you all the files with "bin" somewhere in their install path, and it's a good bet that these are programs you can run. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 2:37:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E6637BDB0; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 02:37:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA32130; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:12:08 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:12:08 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Clifton Royston , EKR , Matt Heckaman , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable Message-ID: <20000301101208.A31830@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000229091635.A23590@lava.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Kris Kennaway on Tue, Feb 29, 2000 at 06:14:14PM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Feb 29, 2000 at 06:14:14PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Clifton Royston wrote: > > But isn't there a US patent issue (though it might expire later this > > year, I believe) preventing distributing or using RSA code inside the > > US without a license, unless you use RSA's approved reference version? > > Yes. Section 6.5 in the handbook attempts to explain the issues, but > please note that it doesn't describe the current state of OpenSSL in > FreeBSD 4.0 and will be changing in the next few days to better reflect > reality. Please note that the Handbook is primarily targetted (for the moment) at 3.x. If you're planning on adding text that describes how things work in 4.0/-current, please make sure the distinction is clear. Thanks, N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 7: 9:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DAC37C387 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:09:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #3) for stable@freebsd.org id 12QAkd-000F2w-00; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:09:23 +0000 Received: from localhost (jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA75019 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:09:23 GMT (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:09:23 +0000 (GMT) From: Jonathon McKitrick To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: make clean problem in 'biology' Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For the past couple of cvsups, when i run 'make clean' on /usr/ports, it dies in the biology directory. Sorry i don't have a specific portname. -=> jm <=- Please CC me on all replies ------------------------------------------------------- "The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long, and you have burned so very, very brightly." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 7:21:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B05437C332 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:21:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A07E8A4 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:21:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA05999; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:21:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14525.13666.847921.132509@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:21:06 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: codecrusader and ntp In-Reply-To: <3434.951881284@brown.pfcs.com> References: <3434.951881284@brown.pfcs.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "HS" == Harlan Stenn writes: HS> OK, the NTP problem is an old bug that has already been fixed. HS> There was a time in 3-STABLE where some of the time structures went from HS> microseconds to nanoseconds (as I recall). Speaking of which, what's the reason/benefit of using ntp as opposed to the xntpd which is included in the base system of 3.4? Is ntp cleaner/leaner/faster or is it just an alternative that people are used to? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 8:27:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B4237BDE2 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 08:27:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12QBwu-00010P-00; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 18:26:08 +0200 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:26:08 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Jonathon McKitrick Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make clean problem in 'biology' Message-ID: <20000301182608.A3361@mithrandr.moria.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed 2000-03-01 (15:09), Jonathon McKitrick wrote: > For the past couple of cvsups, when i run 'make clean' on /usr/ports, > it dies in the biology directory. Sorry i don't have a specific > portname. make -k clean (it will ignore any failures and carry on relentlessly) Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 8:30: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E810237BA17 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 08:29:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #3) id 12QC0U-000IBV-00; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:29:50 +0000 Received: from localhost (jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA75418; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:29:50 GMT (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:29:49 +0000 (GMT) From: Jonathon McKitrick To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make clean problem in 'biology' In-Reply-To: <20000301182608.A3361@mithrandr.moria.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ah, yes. Should have known from reading the -current messages :-) How many times did i read 'use makeworld -k'?? -=> jm <=- Please CC me on all replies ------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed in this message are the opinions of the mail program only, and not of the writer, his employer, or freebsd-uk.eu.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 9: 4: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from internal.mail.demon.net (internal.mail.demon.net [193.195.224.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818F737C3AC; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:04:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fanf@demon.net) Received: from fanf.eng.demon.net (fanf.eng.demon.net [195.11.55.89]) by internal.mail.demon.net with ESMTP id RAA17648; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:03:57 GMT Received: from fanf by fanf.eng.demon.net with local (Exim 3.12 #3) id 12QCXU-000PpU-00; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:03:56 +0000 To: nik@freebsd.org From: Tony Finch Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: codecrusader and ntp In-Reply-To: <20000301012736.A66893@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <71214.951846629@pcnbs.pfcs.com> <00022917471203.00702@Bozo_3.BozoLand.domain> <00022917471203.00702@Bozo_3.BozoLand.domain> Message-Id: Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:03:56 +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nik Clayton wrote: > >Tip: When you install a port/package, and want to know what commands it > has, try > > grep bin /var/db/pkg//+CONTENT not `pkg_info -L package_name | grep bin`? Tony. -- f.a.n.finch fanf@demon.net dot@dotat.at 458 the delicate dew drops of disgust To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 9:12:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from neptune.innovativeinternet.net (neptune.innovativeinternet.net [208.244.165.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D3BE37B817 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:12:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Harlan.Stenn@pfcs.com) Received: (qmail 20337 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2000 17:11:56 -0000 Received: from harlan.xecu.net (HELO pcpsj.pfcs.com) (?bNGODxerIODObjY3PsswFa+YJasqs0Dn?@216.127.150.112) by neptune.innovativeinternet.net with SMTP; 1 Mar 2000 17:11:56 -0000 Received: from mumps.pfcs.com [192.52.69.11] (HELO mumps.pfcs.com) by pcpsj.pfcs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) via ESMTP id ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:11:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from root@pcnbs.pfcs.com [192.52.69.42] (HELO pcnbs.pfcs.com) by mumps.pfcs.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) via ESMTP id ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:11:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from harlan@localhost [127.0.0.1] (HELO pcnbs.pfcs.com) by pcnbs.pfcs.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) via ESMTP id ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:11:24 -0500 (EST) To: Vivek Khera Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: codecrusader and ntp In-Reply-To: Vivek Khera's (khera@kciLink.com) message dated Wed, 01 Mar 2000 10:21:06. <14525.13666.847921.132509@onceler.kcilink.com> X-Face: "csXK}xnnsH\h_ce`T#|pM]tG,6Xu.{3Rb\]&XJgVyTS'w{E+|-(}n:c(Cc* $cbtusxDP6T)Hr'k&zrwq0.3&~bAI~YJco[r.mE+K|(q]F=ZNXug:s6tyOk{VTqARy0#axm6BWti9C d User-Agent: EMH/1.10.0 SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.7 (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Y?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=1B=2ED=8E=FEzaki?=) XEmacs/21.1 (patch 8) (Bryce Canyon) (i386-unknown-freebsd3.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 12:11:24 -0500 Message-ID: <73683.951930684@pcnbs.pfcs.com> From: Harlan Stenn Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG xntp3 is the old version 3 code. It is buggy and unsupported. ntp4 is the version 4 code, and is actively maintained. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. H To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 9:51:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from argon.blackdawn.com (deepspace9.dcds.edu [207.231.151.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D78437BD03 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:51:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from will@argon.blackdawn.com) Received: by argon.blackdawn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 381461A27; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:49:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:49:58 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: "Forrest W. Christian" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: When does 4.x become -STABLE? Message-ID: <20000301124958.B426@argon.blackdawn.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from forrestc@iMach.com on Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 12:31:05AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 12:31:05AM -0700, Forrest W. Christian wrote: > With the advent of 4.0-RELEASE, does this mean that 4.0-STABLE will soon > follow along with 5.0-CURRENT? No. 4.x-STABLE will probably come around 4.2-RELEASE. It may come some time after 4.1-RELEASE but not before. Of course, this is just a prediction. > Or better put, how will the existance of 4.0-RELEASE affect development > overall in the FreeBSD world? It will send out the latest code into the world, hoping that the reports on its bugginess (or lack thereof) will inform developers on whether it's time to move to 4.x-STABLE. -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 10:21:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from csmd2.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (csmd2.CS.Uni-Magdeburg.De [141.44.22.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FDF737BCBC for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:21:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jesse@mail.CS.Uni-Magdeburg.De) Received: from knecht.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (jesse@knecht [141.44.21.3]) by csmd2.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA02096; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:21:07 +0100 (MET) Received: (from jesse@localhost) by knecht.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id TAA16279; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:20:02 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: knecht.cs.uni-magdeburg.de: jesse set sender to jesse@cs.uni-magdeburg.de using -f To: Jonathon McKitrick Cc: Neil Blakey-Milner , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make clean problem in 'biology' References: From: Roland Jesse In-Reply-To: Jonathon McKitrick's message of "Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:29:49 +0000 (GMT)" Date: 01 Mar 2000 19:20:02 +0100 Message-ID: <0vwvnmpn71.fsf@cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Lines: 8 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jonathon McKitrick writes: > How many times did i read 'use makeworld -k'?? I wouldn't really vote in favour of `make -k world` as IMHO that might leave the system in an inconsistend state. Roland To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 10:36: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EBAD37BBB5 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:36:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #3) id 12QDyT-000MST-00; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:35:53 +0000 Received: from localhost (jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA76190; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:35:52 GMT (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:35:52 +0000 (GMT) From: Jonathon McKitrick To: Roland Jesse Cc: Neil Blakey-Milner , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make clean problem in 'biology' In-Reply-To: <0vwvnmpn71.fsf@cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 1 Mar 2000, Roland Jesse wrote: >Jonathon McKitrick writes: > >> How many times did i read 'use makeworld -k'?? > >I wouldn't really vote in favour of `make -k world` as IMHO that might >leave the system in an inconsistend state. Well, that's true, but i culled this piece of knowledge from -current, where sometimes an inconsistent world is better than no world at all. At least the -k option applies to make clean, and that was what i was after. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 11: 6:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from monsoon.mail.pipex.net (monsoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5847337BC5B for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 11:06:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: (qmail 18288 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2000 19:06:10 -0000 Received: from usercb40.uk.uudial.com (HELO marder-1.) (62.188.150.207) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 1 Mar 2000 19:06:10 -0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01521; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:06:09 GMT (envelope-from mark) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:06:08 +0000 From: Mark Ovens To: Jonathon McKitrick Cc: Roland Jesse , Neil Blakey-Milner , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make clean problem in 'biology' Message-ID: <20000301190608.C327@marder-1> References: <0vwvnmpn71.fsf@cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org on Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 06:35:52PM +0000 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 06:35:52PM +0000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote: > On 1 Mar 2000, Roland Jesse wrote: > > >Jonathon McKitrick writes: > > > >> How many times did i read 'use makeworld -k'?? > > > >I wouldn't really vote in favour of `make -k world` as IMHO that might > >leave the system in an inconsistend state. > > Well, that's true, but i culled this piece of knowledge from -current, > where sometimes an inconsistent world is better than no world at all. > At least the -k option applies to make clean, and that was what i was > after. > Going back to the original problem, I may be wrong here but is ``make clean'' failing due to an out of date /usr/ports/INDEX (a port is listed in the biology section in the INDEX, but that port no longer exists). ``cd /usr/ports ; make index'' will solve that one. Personally though I find doing # find /usr/ports -name work and then cd(1)'ing to each found path (i.e. the parent of the found work dir) and doing ``make clean'' there is faster, you don't end up doing ''make clean'' in every port and it's dependencies. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Microsoft: Where do you want to go today? Linux: Where do you want to go tomorrow? BSD: Are you guys coming, or what? -Poster at LinuxWorld 2000 ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 11:12:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB7437C230 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 11:12:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #3) id 12QEXa-0005RE-00; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:12:10 +0000 Received: from localhost (jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA76395; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:12:09 GMT (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:12:09 +0000 (GMT) From: Jonathon McKitrick To: Mark Ovens Cc: Roland Jesse , Neil Blakey-Milner , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make clean problem in 'biology' In-Reply-To: <20000301190608.C327@marder-1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, both of those solutions are great. The first is juts a good idea no matter what, and the second is what i really needed. I need to make a script out of it. I have an obsession with free disk space(abnormal, i know) so i like to reclaim space when possible. It's a laptop, i have to be economical. ;-) -=> jm <=- Please CC me on all replies ------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed in this message are the opinions of the mail program only, and not of the writer, his employer, or freebsd-uk.eu.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 11:45:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F52637C68F for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 11:43:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA87107; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 11:41:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <200003011941.LAA87107@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: make clean problem in 'biology' In-Reply-To: <20000301190608.C327@marder-1> from Mark Ovens at "Mar 1, 2000 07:06:08 pm" To: mark@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (Mark Ovens) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 11:41:21 -0800 (PST) Cc: jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (Jonathon McKitrick), jesse@prinz-atm.CS.Uni-Magdeburg.De (Roland Jesse), nbm@mithrandr.moria.org (Neil Blakey-Milner), stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 06:35:52PM +0000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote: > > On 1 Mar 2000, Roland Jesse wrote: > > > > >Jonathon McKitrick writes: > > > > > >> How many times did i read 'use makeworld -k'?? > > > > > >I wouldn't really vote in favour of `make -k world` as IMHO that might > > >leave the system in an inconsistend state. > > > > Well, that's true, but i culled this piece of knowledge from -current, > > where sometimes an inconsistent world is better than no world at all. > > At least the -k option applies to make clean, and that was what i was > > after. > > > > Going back to the original problem, I may be wrong here but is ``make > clean'' failing due to an out of date /usr/ports/INDEX (a port is > listed in the biology section in the INDEX, but that port no longer > exists). ``cd /usr/ports ; make index'' will solve that one. > Personally though I find doing > > # find /usr/ports -name work > > and then cd(1)'ing to each found path (i.e. the parent of the found > work dir) and doing ``make clean'' there is faster, you don't end up > doing ''make clean'' in every port and it's dependencies. That is the Slow way and over works the file system, thy this: echo */*/work | xargs rm -r At least 1 order of magnitude faster and 2 orders of magnitude less load on the file system. -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 11:48:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF3237C31D for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 11:47:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #3) id 12QF5H-000O0r-00; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:46:59 +0000 Received: from localhost (jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA76479; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:46:57 GMT (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:46:57 +0000 (GMT) From: Jonathon McKitrick To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Mark Ovens , Roland Jesse , Neil Blakey-Milner , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make clean problem in 'biology' In-Reply-To: <200003011941.LAA87107@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Do i run that in each directory, or just /usr/ports? -=> jm <=- Please CC me on all replies ------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed in this message are the opinions of the mail program only, and not of the writer, his employer, or freebsd-uk.eu.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 11:48:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55CCC37C682 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 11:45:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA33928; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:45:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA96837; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:45:37 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003011945.MAA96837@harmony.village.org> To: Will Andrews Subject: Re: When does 4.x become -STABLE? Cc: "Forrest W. Christian" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Mar 2000 12:49:58 EST." <20000301124958.B426@argon.blackdawn.com> References: <20000301124958.B426@argon.blackdawn.com> Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 12:45:37 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000301124958.B426@argon.blackdawn.com> Will Andrews writes: : On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 12:31:05AM -0700, Forrest W. Christian wrote: : > With the advent of 4.0-RELEASE, does this mean that 4.0-STABLE will soon : > follow along with 5.0-CURRENT? : : No. 4.x-STABLE will probably come around 4.2-RELEASE. It may come some time : after 4.1-RELEASE but not before. Of course, this is just a prediction. The last publicly announced plans were to branch 4.x right after the release so things like acpi and kernel threads could get rolling right away. At the point of the branch, 4.0 moves from 4.0-current to 4.0-stable and 5.0-current will be born. In general, the FreeBSD project tends to support the last two releases, and the last release on the previous stable branch if there aren't three releases in the new branch. Let us assume that 4.0R comes out, then 3.5R comes out a few months later, then 4.1R and 3.6R. Here's an approximate table of what would be supported: Approx Date Event What's supported after the event. 3/00 today: 3.4R, 3.3R 3/00 4.0R: 4.0R, 3.4R, 3.3R 4/00 3.5R: 4.0R, 3.5R, 3.4R 7/00 4.1R: 4.1R, 4.0R, 3.5R 8/00 3.6R: 4.1R, 4.0R, 3.6R 11/00 4.2R: 4.2R, 4.1R 3/01 4.3R: 4.3R, 4.2R Various people in the project may choose to support a wider window than shown above. The security officer tends to follow the above closely, unless there are people on the SO team that can test on more releases. Given the nature of the changes in 4.0, I think that the SO team will support the 3.x-stable branch to approx the 4.3R or 4.4R timeframe. Note, the above dates are based on the one release every 4 months that has been traditional and which Jordan talked about being the target at FreeBSD Con'99. This doesn't represent an official schedule, nor is it a firm commitment to anything. It is just my guess based on publicly available information and past history. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Objects in mirror may be closer than they appear. For external use only. Your milage may vary. Do not taunt HappyFunBall. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 12:18:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id 7912437BD88; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:18:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753212E8157; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:18:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@hub.freebsd.org) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:18:28 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Mark Ovens , Jonathon McKitrick , Roland Jesse , Neil Blakey-Milner , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make clean problem in 'biology' In-Reply-To: <200003011941.LAA87107@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > That is the Slow way and over works the file system, thy this: > echo */*/work | xargs rm -r Of course, none of this actually solves the problem. Firstly, this bug report would have been better suited to the ports mailing list where the ports crew hangs out, and you'd probably have to provide an error log to be of more use..make clean in biology works for me. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 12:23:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C67B37BAC7; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:22:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #3) id 12QFe5-000PPN-00; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:22:57 +0000 Received: from localhost (jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA76642; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:22:56 GMT (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:22:56 +0000 (GMT) From: Jonathon McKitrick To: Kris Kennaway Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , Mark Ovens , Roland Jesse , Neil Blakey-Milner , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make clean problem in 'biology' In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When i'm at home on my BSD machine, i'll try to save a log and forward it to ports. But first i will make sure the index is correct. -=> jm <=- Please CC me on all replies ------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed in this message are the opinions of the mail program only, and not of the writer, his employer, or freebsd-uk.eu.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 12:52: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pi.yip.org (yip.org [199.45.111.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB08137BA9B for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:51:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Received: from localhost (melange@localhost) by pi.yip.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23243; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:51:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:51:41 -0500 (EST) From: Bob K X-Sender: melange@localhost To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: pine@freebsd.ady.ro Subject: rewrite: map mxserved not found Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, just wanted to share an experience upgrading from 3.3-RELEASE to 3.4-STABLE cvsup'ed about a week ago. FreeBSD pi.yip.org 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE #2: Mon Feb 28 01:11:37 EST 2000 melange@pi.yip.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/PI i386 Everything went smoothly except for the sendmail upgrade - anytime Pine 4.05 and later Pine-ssl 4.21.1.4 tried to send something to a non-local address, sendmail would barf with the error rewrite: map mxserved not found This appeared to be due to the following lines in sendmail.cf: # MX map (to allow relaying to hosts that we MX for) Kresolve host -a -T # Default was: #Kmxserved bestmx -z: -T Uncommenting the Kmxserved line fixed it. Fodder for the /usr/src/UPDATING file, perhaps? (Note: This only happened when Pine would attempt to send mail to a remote host - it did not affect incoming mail, majordomo 1.9.94, or anything else as far as I could tell) The maintainer for pine4 has been cc:'d. Bob "Life is like a video game with no chance to win" - Atari Teenage Riot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 13: 3:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id A220537B9C1; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 13:03:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00512E8157; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 13:03:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@hub.freebsd.org) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 13:03:45 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Jonathon McKitrick Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , Mark Ovens , Roland Jesse , Neil Blakey-Milner , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make clean problem in 'biology' In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote: > When i'm at home on my BSD machine, i'll try to save a log and forward > it to ports. But first i will make sure the index is correct. The index shouldn't affect it..that doesn't affect the build process at all, it's for external purposes. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 13: 8:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (dynamic-15.max4-du-ws.dialnetwork.pavilion.co.uk [212.74.9.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6617E37BEBF for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 13:08:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@shift.lan.awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA80597; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:07:41 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA00496; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 08:17:34 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200003010817.IAA00496@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Kris Kirby Cc: "Sameer R. Manek" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org Subject: Re: your mail (PPP) In-Reply-To: Message from Kris Kirby of "Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:48:58 CST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 08:17:34 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I've noticed that when I use ppp -nat, on my 56k modem, the load average of > > the system seems to be a bit go high, when I ftp files across it. The cpu > > (PII 400) is more then sufficiently powered to handle nat and ppp over a > > modem. Nor is system paging to swap. > > > > Anyone else noticed similar load averages? Top doesn't seem to provide any > > evidence of ppp, being stuck in a busy loop. > > Yes. My gateway machine floats between 1.25 and 1.85. I'm also running a > distributed.net client. Compression is quite expensive. If you're not negotiating CCP I'd be quite surprised if the increased load average was even noticable. > --- > Kris Kirby, KE4AHR | TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. > | > ------------------------------------------------------- > "God gave them the ability to reproduce... > ... Science gave us the hope they won't." -KBK -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 14: 3: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from m3.cs.berkeley.edu (m3.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.45.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C30D37BB90 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:03:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@stampede.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca1-183.ix.netcom.com [209.109.232.183]) by m3.cs.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA58495; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:02:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@stampede.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.6.9) id OAA97195; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:01:15 -0800 (PST) To: Gawel Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: make fetch + dependencies References: <38BA81C7.E7FA0940@sim.com.pl> From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Date: 01 Mar 2000 14:00:13 -0800 In-Reply-To: Gawel's message of "Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:10:15 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 6 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * How to make fetch a single port with all dependencies? * (only download a port and and all dependencies ports) make DEPENDS_TARGET=checksum checksum Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 14: 3:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D184737BAD1 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:03:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from slave (doug@slave [10.0.0.1]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA59266; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:03:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:03:12 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Barton X-Sender: doug@dt051n0b.san.rr.com To: Vivek Khera Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: codecrusader and ntp In-Reply-To: <14525.13666.847921.132509@onceler.kcilink.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: > >>>>> "HS" == Harlan Stenn writes: > > HS> OK, the NTP problem is an old bug that has already been fixed. > HS> There was a time in 3-STABLE where some of the time structures went from > HS> microseconds to nanoseconds (as I recall). > > Speaking of which, what's the reason/benefit of using ntp as opposed > to the xntpd which is included in the base system of 3.4? Is ntp > cleaner/leaner/faster or is it just an alternative that people are > used to? The xntpd in the freebsd tree is ancient. Even the latest release of xntpd is more efficient. The ntp code keeps your clock synched closer and uses less cpu than even the latest xntpd. If you are not doing sub-second timing operations and your system is not cpu bound you probably won't notice any differences. Doug -- "Welcome to the desert of the real." - Laurence Fishburne as Morpheus, "The Matrix" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 14:23:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F4EC37BBA3 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:23:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B960CE8AF for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:23:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA08267; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:23:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14525.38998.672147.221366@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:23:18 -0500 (EST) To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: make fetch + dependencies In-Reply-To: References: <38BA81C7.E7FA0940@sim.com.pl> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "S" == Satoshi writes: S> * How to make fetch a single port with all dependencies? S> * (only download a port and and all dependencies ports) S> make DEPENDS_TARGET=checksum checksum Could this be made into something like a "make fetchall" target and/or documented? Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 14:32:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from numeri.campus.luth.se (numeri.campus.luth.se [130.240.197.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2792A37BAFC; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:32:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from k@numeri.campus.luth.se) Received: from numeri.campus.luth.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by numeri.campus.luth.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA15318; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 23:34:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from k@numeri.campus.luth.se) Message-Id: <200003012234.XAA15318@numeri.campus.luth.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Cc: Gawel , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: make fetch + dependencies In-reply-to: Your message of "01 Mar 2000 14:00:13 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 23:34:28 +0100 From: Johan Karlsson Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 01 Mar 2000 14:00:13 PST, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote: > * How to make fetch a single port with all dependencies? > * (only download a port and and all dependencies ports) > >make DEPENDS_TARGET=3Dchecksum checksum > I do not get this to work the way I expect it to :-( numeri# pwd /usr/ports/print/lyx numeri# make DEPENDS_TARGET=3Dchecksum checksum If you want this port built with spell checker support, use make WITH_ISPELL=3Dyes >> Checksum OK for lyx-1.0.4.tar.gz. numeri# = It should at least fetch teTeX since I do not have any latex in my system= =2E /Johan K >Satoshi > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 14:59:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC38B37BAFC for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:59:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA87513; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:58:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <200003012258.OAA87513@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: make clean problem in 'biology' In-Reply-To: from Jonathon McKitrick at "Mar 1, 2000 07:46:57 pm" To: jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (Jonathon McKitrick) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:58:25 -0800 (PST) Cc: mark@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (Mark Ovens), jesse@prinz-atm.CS.Uni-Magdeburg.De (Roland Jesse), nbm@mithrandr.moria.org (Neil Blakey-Milner), stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Do i run that in each directory, or just /usr/ports? Since you deleted all the context I can't be sure I am answering the right question :-(. But if this was about ``echo */*/work| xargs rm -r'' then the answer is: I should have said: ``cd /usr/ports; echo */*/work | xargs rm -r'' to eliminate your question :-) -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 15:29:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rs.ksl.co.il (rs.ksl.co.il [199.203.44.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C15837BC52 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:29:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roman@xpert.com) Received: from localhost (roman@localhost) by rs.ksl.co.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA43107; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 01:37:13 +0200 (IST) X-Authentication-Warning: rs.ksl.co.il: roman owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 01:37:12 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon To: Coleman Kane Cc: Matt Heckaman , "Jeffrey J. Mountin" , FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: xl0 packet dropping, still In-Reply-To: <20000219193247.D6824@evil.2y.net> Message-ID: Organization: Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Hmm.. I've this card (3Com 3c905-TX) on two machines, one p2 and one k6-2 And it always worked fine. The average load that I put on them is minimal, but there are some peaks sometimes, and it works well. Reading the source points that commenting out #define XL_USEIOSPACE will make it use mmaped io which may be faster. On the other hand, the fxp0 is a fine card too. We use four of them on some firewall. On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Coleman Kane wrote: > I wonder if it is a problem with the 3c900 cards only. I have a roommate > with the 905 who doesn't haveany problems. Another one has the cheaper > homeconnect 450 that also runs fine. It seems to only be the 3c900 cards > that cause problems. I have switched my server back to some AMD-Lance > PCNet-SCSI card that is it's onboard controller. I never eally had a > problem with it, but I was under the impression that 3Com's stuff was > cream-of-the-crop, guess not. I'll probably switch to Tuilp adapters > from now on... > > --cokane > > Matt Heckaman had the audacity to say: > > Hi, > > > > I'm using 3c905b-TX NICs in 4 servers here, all intels ranging from a beat > > up p133 doing DNS, to a pII and a couple celerons doing various tasks. > > These are interconnected via a Cisco 1548M, etc. I personally, have had > > nothing but good expierence with these cards, I find it strange that this > > many people are. > > > > Personally, I've always held 3com cards in high regard. For example, my > > friend's company which runs a wide array of intel servers, netfinities > > and whatnot, use strictly those 3com cards, I haven't heard of them having > > any problems either. > > > > I /have/ however, seen an Intel Etherexpress Pro 10/100 give a machine > > that I work with (FreeBSD) numerous problems upon problems for a while, > > it's interesting how both sides of the fence have the opposite problems. > > > > Matt > > -- > > Matt Heckaman [matt@arpa.mail.net|matt@relic.net] [Please do not send me] > > !Powered by FreeBSD/x86! [http://www.freebsd.org] [any SPAM (UCE) e-mail] > > > > On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > > > > : Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:32:32 -0500 > > : From: Jeffrey J. Mountin > > : To: Omachonu Ogali > > : Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > : Subject: Re: xl0 packet dropping, still > > : > > : At 10:47 PM 2/17/00 -0500, Omachonu Ogali wrote: > > : >I've gotten reports of the 3Com NIC's dropping packets in all OS's using > > : >an Intel CPU, it's more or less a sporadic problem I say... > > : > > : The 3Com's have higher collision rates (tested over long periods) and don't > > : autsense most of the time, which the Intel does much better. > > : > > : Frankly I can't see anyone using a 3Com considering all the problems that > > : crop up on the lists, but then I've been happy with Intel NIC since the > > : Pro100B came out. ;) > > : > > : > > : Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net > > : Systems/Network Administrator > > : FreeBSD - the power to serve > > : > > : > > : > > : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > : with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > : > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 15:53:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4218737BD3C for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:53:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12QIsx-000JUr-00; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 23:50:31 +0000 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.12 #7) id 12QIsx-000M8U-00; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 23:50:31 +0000 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 23:50:31 +0000 From: Ben Smithurst To: Jonathon McKitrick Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make clean problem in 'biology' Message-ID: <20000301235031.B86224@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <200003011941.LAA87107@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jonathon McKitrick wrote: > Do i run that in each directory, or just /usr/ports? just /usr/ports -- Ben Smithurst / ben@scientia.demon.co.uk / PGP: 0x99392F7D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 16:23:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from evil.2y.net (port-6-81.adsl.one.net [207.78.253.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A202437BD39 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:23:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cokane@evil.2y.net) Received: (from cokane@localhost) by evil.2y.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA21961; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:27:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cokane) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:27:34 -0500 From: Coleman Kane To: Roman Shterenzon Cc: Coleman Kane , Matt Heckaman , "Jeffrey J. Mountin" , FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: xl0 packet dropping, still Message-ID: <20000301192734.A21938@evil.2y.net> References: <20000219193247.D6824@evil.2y.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="opJtzjQTFsWo+cga" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from roman@ksl.co.il on Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 06:29:11PM -0500 X-Vim: vim:tw=70:ts=4:sw=4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the info, I have been told that the problem seems to manifest on= ly on the B revision cards, and it might only be limited to the 900B cards. The C= rev. of the card fixes this problem I think. I have also been told that 3com kno= ws about it and that they don't do anything about it. I can get an 82559 card = for $43 in town from a distributor so I may go that route. The commenting of the define did speed up the cards responsiveness and the system during high net= work loads, but it still does the packet dropping. --cokane Roman Shterenzon had the audacity to say: > Hello, > Hmm.. > I've this card (3Com 3c905-TX) on two machines, one p2 and one k6-2 > And it always worked fine. The average load that I put on them is minimal, > but there are some peaks sometimes, and it works well. > Reading the source points that commenting out #define XL_USEIOSPACE > will make it use mmaped io which may be faster. > On the other hand, the fxp0 is a fine card too. We use four of them on > some firewall. >=20 > On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Coleman Kane wrote: >=20 > > I wonder if it is a problem with the 3c900 cards only. I have a roommate > > with the 905 who doesn't haveany problems. Another one has the cheaper > > homeconnect 450 that also runs fine. It seems to only be the 3c900 cards > > that cause problems. I have switched my server back to some AMD-Lance > > PCNet-SCSI card that is it's onboard controller. I never eally had a > > problem with it, but I was under the impression that 3Com's stuff was > > cream-of-the-crop, guess not. I'll probably switch to Tuilp adapters > > from now on... > >=20 > > --cokane > >=20 > > Matt Heckaman had the audacity to say: > > > Hi, > > >=20 > > > I'm using 3c905b-TX NICs in 4 servers here, all intels ranging from a= beat > > > up p133 doing DNS, to a pII and a couple celerons doing various tasks. > > > These are interconnected via a Cisco 1548M, etc. I personally, have h= ad > > > nothing but good expierence with these cards, I find it strange that = this > > > many people are. > > >=20 > > > Personally, I've always held 3com cards in high regard. For example, = my > > > friend's company which runs a wide array of intel servers, netfinities > > > and whatnot, use strictly those 3com cards, I haven't heard of them h= aving > > > any problems either. > > >=20 > > > I /have/ however, seen an Intel Etherexpress Pro 10/100 give a machine > > > that I work with (FreeBSD) numerous problems upon problems for a whil= e, > > > it's interesting how both sides of the fence have the opposite proble= ms. > > >=20 > > > Matt > > > -- > > > Matt Heckaman [matt@arpa.mail.net|matt@relic.net] [Please do not send= me] > > > !Powered by FreeBSD/x86! [http://www.freebsd.org] [any SPAM (UCE) e-m= ail] > > >=20 > > > On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > > >=20 > > > : Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:32:32 -0500 > > > : From: Jeffrey J. Mountin > > > : To: Omachonu Ogali > > > : Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > > : Subject: Re: xl0 packet dropping, still > > > :=20 > > > : At 10:47 PM 2/17/00 -0500, Omachonu Ogali wrote: > > > : >I've gotten reports of the 3Com NIC's dropping packets in all OS's= using > > > : >an Intel CPU, it's more or less a sporadic problem I say... > > > :=20 > > > : The 3Com's have higher collision rates (tested over long periods) a= nd don't > > > : autsense most of the time, which the Intel does much better. > > > :=20 > > > : Frankly I can't see anyone using a 3Com considering all the problem= s that > > > : crop up on the lists, but then I've been happy with Intel NIC since= the > > > : Pro100B came out. ;) > > > :=20 > > > :=20 > > > : Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net > > > : Systems/Network Administrator > > > : FreeBSD - the power to serve > > > :=20 > > > :=20 > > > :=20 > > > : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > : with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > :=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > >=20 >=20 > --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant > [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE4vbV2ERViMObJ880RAQJEAJ9moqhhhzsQ+xpy8nRRtziRPj1S6wCfWnUR q/FDln9qVr1bItcJ5ItpO9k= =Gx/y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 16:36:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from evil.2y.net (port-6-81.adsl.one.net [207.78.253.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C586A37BDE4 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:36:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cokane@evil.2y.net) Received: (from cokane@localhost) by evil.2y.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA22044; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:40:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cokane) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:40:31 -0500 From: Coleman Kane To: Roman Shterenzon Cc: Coleman Kane , Matt Heckaman , "Jeffrey J. Mountin" , FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: xl0 packet dropping, still Message-ID: <20000301194031.C21938@evil.2y.net> References: <20000219193247.D6824@evil.2y.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2JFBq9zoW8cOFH7v" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from roman@ksl.co.il on Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 06:30:47PM -0500 X-Vim: vim:tw=70:ts=4:sw=4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --2JFBq9zoW8cOFH7v Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Actually, to comment on my last post, I have heard that freebsd 4.0 fixes t= his 3com problem. --cokane Roman Shterenzon had the audacity to say: >=20 > Hello, > Hmm.. > I've this card (3Com 3c905-TX) on two machines, one p2 and one k6-2 > And it always worked fine. The average load that I put on them is minimal, > but there are some peaks sometimes, and it works well. > Reading the source points that commenting out #define XL_USEIOSPACE > will make it use mmaped io which may be faster. > On the other hand, the fxp0 is a fine card too. We use four of them on > some firewall. >=20 > On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Coleman Kane wrote: >=20 > > I wonder if it is a problem with the 3c900 cards only. I have a roommate > > with the 905 who doesn't haveany problems. Another one has the cheaper > > homeconnect 450 that also runs fine. It seems to only be the 3c900 cards > > that cause problems. I have switched my server back to some AMD-Lance > > PCNet-SCSI card that is it's onboard controller. I never eally had a > > problem with it, but I was under the impression that 3Com's stuff was > > cream-of-the-crop, guess not. I'll probably switch to Tuilp adapters > > from now on... > >=20 > > --cokane > >=20 > > Matt Heckaman had the audacity to say: > > > Hi, > > >=20 > > > I'm using 3c905b-TX NICs in 4 servers here, all intels ranging from a= beat > > > up p133 doing DNS, to a pII and a couple celerons doing various tasks. > > > These are interconnected via a Cisco 1548M, etc. I personally, have h= ad > > > nothing but good expierence with these cards, I find it strange that = this > > > many people are. > > >=20 > > > Personally, I've always held 3com cards in high regard. For example, = my > > > friend's company which runs a wide array of intel servers, netfinities > > > and whatnot, use strictly those 3com cards, I haven't heard of them h= aving > > > any problems either. > > >=20 > > > I /have/ however, seen an Intel Etherexpress Pro 10/100 give a machine > > > that I work with (FreeBSD) numerous problems upon problems for a whil= e, > > > it's interesting how both sides of the fence have the opposite proble= ms. > > >=20 > > > Matt > > > -- > > > Matt Heckaman [matt@arpa.mail.net|matt@relic.net] [Please do not send= me] > > > !Powered by FreeBSD/x86! [http://www.freebsd.org] [any SPAM (UCE) e-m= ail] > > >=20 > > > On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > > >=20 > > > : Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:32:32 -0500 > > > : From: Jeffrey J. Mountin > > > : To: Omachonu Ogali > > > : Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > > : Subject: Re: xl0 packet dropping, still > > > :=20 > > > : At 10:47 PM 2/17/00 -0500, Omachonu Ogali wrote: > > > : >I've gotten reports of the 3Com NIC's dropping packets in all OS's= using > > > : >an Intel CPU, it's more or less a sporadic problem I say... > > > :=20 > > > : The 3Com's have higher collision rates (tested over long periods) a= nd don't > > > : autsense most of the time, which the Intel does much better. > > > :=20 > > > : Frankly I can't see anyone using a 3Com considering all the problem= s that > > > : crop up on the lists, but then I've been happy with Intel NIC since= the > > > : Pro100B came out. ;) > > > :=20 > > > :=20 > > > : Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net > > > : Systems/Network Administrator > > > : FreeBSD - the power to serve > > > :=20 > > > :=20 > > > :=20 > > > : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > : with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > :=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > >=20 >=20 > --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant > [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] >=20 >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message --2JFBq9zoW8cOFH7v Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE4vbh+ERViMObJ880RAcUlAJ9u56IIfRDQ1xOIA17xSa0iSlF/dQCfYoDT b/dCLKX2lwSNPeyS2T2bAcI= =Zdiu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2JFBq9zoW8cOFH7v-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 18: 3:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from typhoon.mail.pipex.net (typhoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8422137BEC8 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:03:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: (qmail 26273 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2000 02:02:57 -0000 Received: from userbl70.uk.uudial.com (HELO marder-1.) (62.188.144.177) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2000 02:02:57 -0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA01032; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 02:02:55 GMT (envelope-from mark) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 02:02:54 +0000 From: Mark Ovens To: Kris Kennaway Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , Jonathon McKitrick , Roland Jesse , Neil Blakey-Milner , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make clean problem in 'biology' Message-ID: <20000302020254.E327@marder-1> References: <200003011941.LAA87107@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from kris@hub.freebsd.org on Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 12:18:28PM -0800 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 12:18:28PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > That is the Slow way and over works the file system, thy this: > > echo */*/work | xargs rm -r > > Of course, none of this actually solves the problem. Firstly, this bug > report would have been better suited to the ports mailing list where the > ports crew hangs out, and you'd probably have to provide an error log to > be of more use..make clean in biology works for me. > But is it really a bug? For instance, I have xview installed on my system but pkg_version reports xview-config-3.2.1 and xview-lib-3.2.1 as "unknown in index" so if I tried to ``make clean'' xview-3.2.1 I would expect it to crash as neither of the the 2 dependencies are in the current ports tree. > Kris > > ---- > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Microsoft: Where do you want to go today? Linux: Where do you want to go tomorrow? BSD: Are you guys coming, or what? -Poster at LinuxWorld 2000 ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 18:57:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id 56BCA37BF03; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:57:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546A82E8158; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:57:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@hub.freebsd.org) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:57:48 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Mark Ovens Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , Jonathon McKitrick , Roland Jesse , Neil Blakey-Milner , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make clean problem in 'biology' In-Reply-To: <20000302020254.E327@marder-1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Mark Ovens wrote: > But is it really a bug? For instance, I have xview installed on my > system but pkg_version reports xview-config-3.2.1 and xview-lib-3.2.1 > as "unknown in index" so if I tried to ``make clean'' > xview-3.2.1 I would expect it to crash as neither of the the 2 > dependencies are in the current ports tree. 'make clean' doesn't use the index at all, unless I'm fundamentally mistaken - it walks the tree of port makefiles according to the contents of *_DEPENDS Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 19:51:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.79.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4636D37BCC1 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:51:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.79.115]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA10674 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:51:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA04126; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:51:44 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:51:44 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003020351.UAA04126@nomad.yogotech.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: GDB on C++ programs under FreeBSD 3.X X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Any idea what would cause this? A co-worker is debugging a C++ program, and this sort of things works fine under 2.2, but doesn't work under 3.X. > The "-static" linker flag did not appear to change anything. > Any additional insights would be greatly appreciated. > > FreeBSD Version: 3.3-RELEASE > > GDB Version: GNU gdb 4.18 > > Typical GDB Output: > =-=-= > (gdb) p pkt > $1 = (CpfPkt *) 0x8d28a04 > (gdb) call pkt->printAll(0, (void *)0) > Cannot resolve method CpfPkt::printAll to any overloaded instance > (gdb) call pkt->printAll() > Cannot resolve method CpfPkt::printAll to any overloaded instance > (gdb) call CpfSimNodeNameGet() > Segmentation fault(core dumped) > =-=-= I tried creating a simple test program, but the test program works as expected. Under FreeBSD 2.2.8-stable. (gdb) print pkt $1 = (CpfPkt *) 0xa83a04 (gdb) call pkt->printAll(0, (void *)0) node3: 0.056106 Pkt [0xa83a04] object CpfPkt: originated in node3/br.0 node3: 0.056106 CpfProtoComm CpfPkt: originated in node3/br.0 node node3 node3: 0.056106 Owner Broadcast Radio MAC (1a2eb04), Current proto Broadcast Radio MAC (1a2eb04) node3: 0.056106 Retain flag 0, Notify flag 0, Notify type 0x10000000 .... You get the point. I'll keep trying to develop a simple test case, but this is a rather large C++ program, and breaking things down into smaller pieces don't seem to work. In the same vein, I have other weird behavior that occurs, which may shed some light. I tried linking statically to see if that would help, and that doesn't seem to do anything. To link statically, I add '-static' to the link line, but the resulting executable is still created as a dynamic executable (at least according to file). www:~/roof/cpt/examples/hier % file prog prog: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked, not stripped However, if I run ldd on the resulting 'dynamic' executable, the following error occurs. www:~/roof/cpt/examples/hier % ldd prog prog: ELF interpreter /usr/lib/libc.so.1 not found prog: signal 6 I don't have any 4.* systems, nor do I have the resources to create one, so I can't test there. Thanks for any help you can provide! Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 20:15:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C12137BC68 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:15:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #3) for stable@freebsd.org id 12QN1U-0009dI-00; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 04:15:36 +0000 Received: from localhost (jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA78857 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 04:15:36 GMT (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 04:15:35 +0000 (GMT) From: Jonathon McKitrick To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: moused patch question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had been having a problem with moused not starting correctly on powerup, but it seems to be cured. I cvsup regularly, and just for the sake of learning some programming, could someone tell me where that patch might be? Maybe where in the file the bug was? -=> jm <=- Please CC me on all replies ------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed in this message are the opinions of the mail program only, and not of the writer, his employer, or freebsd-uk.eu.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 1 21:59:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A727A37BAEE for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:59:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA05279; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:28:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:28:42 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Jonathon McKitrick Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: moused patch question Message-ID: <20000301222841.D21720@fw.wintelcom.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org on Thu, Mar 02, 2000 at 04:15:35AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Jonathon McKitrick [000301 20:47] wrote: > I had been having a problem with moused not starting correctly on > powerup, but it seems to be cured. I cvsup regularly, and just for > the sake of learning some programming, could someone tell me where > that patch might be? Maybe where in the file the bug was? There's a couple ways you can find this sort of information out, the simplest being searching the cvs-all mailing list at: http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists (commit) You can also browse around the source code revision history at: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ check out the src link. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 2:58:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from omnix.net (omnix.net [195.154.168.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CFF9A37C0D4 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 02:58:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from didier@omnix.net) Received: (qmail 3489 invoked by uid 200); 2 Mar 2000 10:58:15 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Mar 2000 10:58:15 -0000 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 10:58:14 +0000 (GMT) From: Didier Derny To: Kris Kirby Cc: lluisma , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Tuning: FreeBSD as static router with 6 fast ethernet cards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG what dual 10/100 ethernet card do you suggest ? I've tried the adaptec board 4x 10/100 but it was a disaster (very expensive and impossible to put 2 boards at the same time) On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Kris Kirby wrote: > > I have this opportunity to use freebsd as a router serving 15 subnets > > with six fast ethernet cards(will do aliasing to support all 15 subnets) > > supporting about 1,200 PCs running windows. In addition, this freebsd > > router will also run samba 2.0.6( to act as local master browser for > > all subnets) and ipfilter and nothing else. All PCs are connected to > > switches with 10/100 mbit ports. > > Might be better to use three dual 10/100 ethernet cards. > > ---- > Kris Kirby, KE4AHR | TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. > | > ------------------------------------------------------- > "God gave them the ability to reproduce... > ... Science gave us the hope they won't." -KBK > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 3: 4:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21DAC37BEAC for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 03:04:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA12446; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 03:34:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 03:34:38 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Didier Derny Cc: Kris Kirby , lluisma , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Tuning: FreeBSD as static router with 6 fast ethernet cards Message-ID: <20000302033438.H21720@fw.wintelcom.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from didier@omnix.net on Thu, Mar 02, 2000 at 10:58:14AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Didier Derny [000302 03:29] wrote: > > what dual 10/100 ethernet card do you suggest ? > > I've tried the adaptec board 4x 10/100 but it was a disaster > (very expensive and impossible to put 2 boards at the same time) If you can explain why it was impossible to do so, i'm pretty sure someone may find a fix, especially if you are willing to loan the hardware out. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 3:12:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.menzor.dk (themoonismadeofgreenchease.dk [195.249.147.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A2A37BBBB for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 03:12:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ml@seeberg.dk) Received: from sos (userhost.cma.dk [130.228.127.200]) by www.menzor.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA11735; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:27:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@seeberg.dk) Message-ID: <01b801bf8438$753e5ec0$16280c0a@sos> Reply-To: "Morten Seeberg" From: "Morten Seeberg" To: "Didier Derny" , References: Subject: Re: Tuning: FreeBSD as static router with 6 fast ethernet cards Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:14:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The Compaq Dual port cards NC3122 works great for me, We´ve tried having 2 dual ports in running along with a single port and an onboard Thunderlan card. No problems, as long as you remember to terminate unused ports. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Didier Derny" To: "Kris Kirby" Cc: "lluisma" ; Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 11:58 AM Subject: Re: Tuning: FreeBSD as static router with 6 fast ethernet cards > > what dual 10/100 ethernet card do you suggest ? > > I've tried the adaptec board 4x 10/100 but it was a disaster > (very expensive and impossible to put 2 boards at the same time) > > On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Kris Kirby wrote: > > > > I have this opportunity to use freebsd as a router serving 15 subnets > > > with six fast ethernet cards(will do aliasing to support all 15 subnets) > > > supporting about 1,200 PCs running windows. In addition, this freebsd > > > router will also run samba 2.0.6( to act as local master browser for > > > all subnets) and ipfilter and nothing else. All PCs are connected to > > > switches with 10/100 mbit ports. > > > > Might be better to use three dual 10/100 ethernet cards. > > > > ---- > > Kris Kirby, KE4AHR | TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. > > | > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > "God gave them the ability to reproduce... > > ... Science gave us the hope they won't." -KBK > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 3:24:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76FB37BBE5; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 03:24:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12QTgn-0004IC-00; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 13:22:41 +0200 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 13:22:41 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Johan Karlsson Cc: Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami , Gawel , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: make fetch + dependencies Message-ID: <20000302132241.A15730@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <200003012234.XAA15318@numeri.campus.luth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <200003012234.XAA15318@numeri.campus.luth.se> Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed 2000-03-01 (23:34), Johan Karlsson wrote: > >make DEPENDS_TARGET=checksum checksum > > I do not get this to work the way I expect it to :-( > > numeri# pwd > /usr/ports/print/lyx > numeri# make DEPENDS_TARGET=checksum checksum > If you want this port built with spell checker support, use > make WITH_ISPELL=yes > >> Checksum OK for lyx-1.0.4.tar.gz. > numeri# > > It should at least fetch teTeX since I do not have any latex in my system. That's a special case, I think. Try setting 'make DEPENDS_TARGET=checksum BATCH=1 checksum'. If that doesn't work, you may have to try: 'make DEPENDS_TARGET=checksum BATCH=1 PACKAGE_BUILDING=1 checksum', but that will have weird issues. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 3:45:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4893D37BAE5 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 03:45:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE231122E9 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:45:46 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:45:35 +0100 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Brad Knowles Subject: Crash on boot when disks are present? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Folks, This one is so weird that I don't have the foggiest clue how I'd go about searching the archives for answers. Searching for "crash on boot" netted me way more hits than I care to try to count. I've got a FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE system (cvsup'ed a couple of weeks ago) that I've been doing some tests with and it has been working pretty well up until now (after I got the issues of which PCI slots I can plug SCSI controllers into ;-). Anyway, the vendor field engineer for our disk drive array (one of those expensive mainframe-style refrigerator-size models) came in this morning to try to fix some problems we're having with it not recognizing all the RAM that is installed, and among other things he did a firmware upgrade of the controllers, and while we were at it we also deleted all the existing RAID groups and created some new ones, with new logical units associated, etc.... I've gone in and made sure that the BIOS has been changed (yet once again) to try to boot off the internal Quantum Atlas-IV drive that is attached to the AIC-7890 controller, because the external drive array does not have the OS installed, etc.... Unfortunately, when I try to boot with the drive array turned on, it crashes hard (during the bootloader phase, I think), displaying the following: F1 DOS F2 FreeBSD F5 Drive 1 Default: F2 - int=00000000 err=00000000 efl=00030083 eip=00000004 eax=000004e3 ebx=0000097f ecx=0000dc00 edx=000034be esi=0000dc00 edi=00000004 ebp=00000000 esp=000004ce cs=c800 ds=c800 es=9e7d fs=0000 gs=0000 ss=9e7b cs:eip=d4 00 00 00 00 00 00 00-00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ss:esp=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00-00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 I hope I got this right -- I don't have a serial console attached to the machine, so I had to type this in manually. Anyway, when I turn off the external drive array, it boots fine. I know I need to expand /var to accomodate /var/crash, but I don't think that this would actually generate a crash dump, for which this would be useful. Other than having the guy come back out to "upgrade" the controller firmware version back to what it was, does anyone have any other advice that they can give me as to what I might be able to do to debug the problem? Thanks! -- These are my opinions and should not be taken as official Skynet policy ========================================================================= Brad Knowles, Sys. Arch., Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of this message. If you are using a Microsoft program to view this message, be forewarned that I am not responsible for any harm you may encounter as a result. See for details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 4:13: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from numeri.campus.luth.se (numeri.campus.luth.se [130.240.197.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C98637C04C; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 04:12:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from k@numeri.campus.luth.se) Received: from numeri.campus.luth.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by numeri.campus.luth.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20692; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 13:14:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from k@numeri.campus.luth.se) Message-Id: <200003021214.NAA20692@numeri.campus.luth.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami , Gawel , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: make fetch + dependencies In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Mar 2000 13:22:41 +0200." <20000302132241.A15730@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 13:14:21 +0100 From: Johan Karlsson Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At Thu, 02 Mar 2000 13:22:41 +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: >On Wed 2000-03-01 (23:34), Johan Karlsson wrote: >> >make DEPENDS_TARGET=checksum checksum >> >> I do not get this to work the way I expect it to :-( >> >> numeri# pwd >> /usr/ports/print/lyx >> numeri# make DEPENDS_TARGET=checksum checksum >> If you want this port built with spell checker support, use >> make WITH_ISPELL=yes >> >> Checksum OK for lyx-1.0.4.tar.gz. >> numeri# >> >> It should at least fetch teTeX since I do not have any latex in my system. > >That's a special case, I think. > >Try setting 'make DEPENDS_TARGET=checksum BATCH=1 checksum'. > >If that doesn't work, you may have to try: >'make DEPENDS_TARGET=checksum BATCH=1 PACKAGE_BUILDING=1 checksum', but >that will have weird issues. Neighter of these work :-( numeri# cd /usr/ports/print/lyx/ numeri# make DEPENDS_TARGET=checksum BATCH=1 checksum If you want this port built with spell checker support, use make WITH_ISPELL=yes >> Checksum OK for lyx-1.0.4.tar.gz. numeri# make DEPENDS_TARGET=checksum BATCH=1 PACKAGE_BUILDING=1 checksum If you want this port built with spell checker support, use make WITH_ISPELL=yes >> Checksum OK for lyx-1.0.4.tar.gz. numeri# I also tried in numeri# pwd /usr/ports/print/gv numeri# make DEPENDS_TARGET=checksum checksum >> Checksum OK for gv-3.5.8.tar.gz. numeri# make DEPENDS_TARGET=checksum BATCH=1 checksum >> Checksum OK for gv-3.5.8.tar.gz. numeri# make DEPENDS_TARGET=checksum BATCH=1 PACKAGE_BUILDING=1 checksum >> Checksum OK for gv-3.5.8.tar.gz. numeri# since you mentioned that lyx is a special case. But as you can see that does not work either since it should fetch Xaw3d. /Johan K To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 5: 2:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A63A37BC07 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 05:02:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #3) id 12QVFM-000NbF-00; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 13:02:28 +0000 Received: from localhost (jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA80168; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 13:02:27 GMT (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 13:02:27 +0000 (GMT) From: Jonathon McKitrick To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: moused patch question In-Reply-To: <20000301222841.D21720@fw.wintelcom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ah, yes. I seem to remember someone recently citing having the cvs webpage as their home page.... wasn't that a sign of BSD addiction? :-) -=> jm <=- Please CC me on all replies ------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed in this message are the opinions of the mail program only, and not of the writer, his employer, or freebsd-uk.eu.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 6:56:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6209D37BC8B for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 06:56:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id GAA06204; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 06:56:02 -0800 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda06202; Thu Mar 2 06:55:46 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id GAA55334; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 06:55:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdT55330; Thu Mar 2 06:55:15 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id GAA04078; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 06:55:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200003021455.GAA04078@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdRq4070; Thu Mar 2 06:54:39 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: Kenneth W Cochran Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fixed: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:47:07 EST." <200003010447.XAA29585@world.std.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 06:54:38 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200003010447.XAA29585@world.std.com>, Kenneth W Cochran writes: > 2. My original "goal" of being able to get my ports distfiles > off the CDs seems much less workagle in this case. At this > point I'm not sure how to deal with this... This is what I do: Create a /FreeBSD directory. The contents of that directory are: 2.2.7-cdrom-3 3.0-cdrom-3 3.2-cdrom-4 TK-cdrom-3 2.2.7-cdrom-4 3.0-cdrom-4 3.3-cdrom-4 TK-cdrom-4 2.2.8-cdrom-3 3.1-cdrom-3 TK-9906 TK-cdrom-5 2.2.8-cdrom-4 3.1-cdrom-4 TK-9909 TK-cdrom-6 (Looks like I haven't gotten around to creating 3.4 CDROM symlinks yet). Each CDROM directory contains symlinks to distfiles (created using lndir) on CDROM. My distfiles directory contains symlinks to files within /FreeBSD or archives-? directories (Zip disks). Here's an example of what's in /usr/ports/distfiles: lrwx------ 1 root wheel 30 Feb 29 01:45 tcpshow.1 -> /FreeBSD/3.2-cdrom-4/tcpshow.1 lrwx------ 1 root wheel 30 Feb 29 01:45 tcpshow.c -> /FreeBSD/3.2-cdrom-4/tcpshow.c In /FreeBSD/3.2/cdrom-4 we see the following: lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 26 Jun 27 1999 /FreeBSD/3.2-cdrom-4/tcpshow. 1 -> /cdrom/distfiles/tcpshow.1 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 26 Jun 27 1999 /FreeBSD/3.2-cdrom-4/tcpshow. c -> /cdrom/distfiles/tcpshow.c In the above example I know that when building tcpshow, make will complain that it cannot find tcpshow.c: >> /usr/ports/distfiles//tcpshow.c is a broken symlink. >> Perhaps a filesystem (most likely a CD) isn't mounted? >> Please correct this problem and try again. I ls -l /usr/ports/distfiles/tcpshow.c and it will tell me which CDROM it's on. I mount the CDROM and build the package. If a link doesn't exist, FreeBSD will fetch the distfile. When I'm done, I unmount the CDROM and put it back on the shelf. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC "COBOL IS A WASTE OF CARDS." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 7:32:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from KIRA.TEAM400.IE (kira.team400.ie [193.120.161.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD6437BC8B for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 07:32:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from niall@pobox.com) Received: from syrius ("port 2264"@[193.120.161.248]) by kira.team400.ie (PMDF V5.2-32 #42663) with ESMTP id <01JMK96RTKNQ0003AA@kira.team400.ie> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:31:18 BST Received: from KIRA.TEAM400.IE (unverified [193.120.161.242]) by syrius (Integralis SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 15:33:56 +0000 Received: from trinityexch.team400.ie ("port 4354"@[193.120.161.222]) by kira.team400.ie (PMDF V5.2-32 #42663) with ESMTP id <01JMK96I8M8O0003AA@kira.team400.ie> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 15:31:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from pobox.com (193.120.161.91 [193.120.161.91]) by trinityexch.team400.ie with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id F4M0FQ01; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 15:25:18 +0000 Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 15:33:27 +0000 From: Niall Smart Subject: Upgrade to -stable from 3.2 seems to break dynamic loader? To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <38BE89C7.4CA30467@pobox.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i386) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've just upgraded to -stable from 3.2-RELEASE and several applications which dlopen extension libraries aren't working: /etc/zshrc: failed to load module: zle [2] /etc/zshrc: bindkey: autoload failed [2] zsh: failed to load module: zle niall% zmodload stat niall% zmodload zle zsh: failed to load module: zle niall% su Password: # apachectl start [Thu Mar 2 15:32:16 2000] [error] Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5. 005/i386-freebsd/auto/Time/HiRes/HiRes.so' for module Time::HiRes: /usr/local/li b/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-freebsd/auto/Time/HiRes/HiRes.so: Undefined symbol "PL_stack_max" at /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/DynaLoader.pm line 169. at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/HTML/Mason/Interp.pm line 25 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/HTML/M ason.pm line 9. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/web/mason/handler.pl line 3. Syntax error on line 1187 of /usr/local/apache-1.3/conf/httpd.conf: Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-freebsd/auto/Time/HiRes/Hi Res.so' for module Time::HiRes: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-freebs d/auto/Time/HiRes/HiRes.so: Undefined symbol "PL_stack_max" at /usr/libdata/perl /5.00503/DynaLoader.pm line 169. at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/HTML/Mason/Interp.pm line 25 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/HTML/M ason.pm line 9. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/web/mason/handler.pl line 3. /usr/local/apache-1.3/bin/apachectl start: httpd could not be started Any idea whats going on? There is no mention of any drastic changes to the dynamic loader in /usr/src/UPDATING. Many thanks, Niall -- Niall Smart email: niall.smart@ebeon.com phone: (087) 8052390 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 8: 3:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.veriohosting.com (gatekeeper.veriohosting.com [192.41.0.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7372A37C414 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:03:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gritton@iserver.com) Received: by gatekeeper.veriohosting.com; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:03:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from unknown(192.168.1.110) by gatekeeper.veriohosting.com via smap (V3.1.1) id xma028395; Thu, 2 Mar 00 09:02:57 -0700 Received: by guppy.orem.iserver.com; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:02:38 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:02:38 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <200003021602.JAA12181@guppy.orem.iserver.com> From: Jamie Gritton To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: recent vinum changes Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I saw commit messages for the vinum driver, which apparantly apply only to current. As we've been having terrible vinum problems since we started using it (reviving a mirror almost guarantees a panic and a destroyed filesystem), and this is apparently fixed, I'd like to know if there are plans to make these same changes to a stable version. Otherwise, I'd have to go to FreeBSD 4 ahead of it being made the "stable" version, as I doubt all the potential instabilities in the latest OS can stand up to the unstable vinum we have now. - Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 8:10:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A8637BFFB for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:10:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 100F1E8B0; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:10:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09841; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:10:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14526.37497.981697.452892@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:10:33 -0500 (EST) To: Brad Knowles Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Crash on boot when disks are present? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There are anecdotal reports of other external SCSI drives causing such errors at boot on BSD/OS as well. The solution is to power up with the drive off, and turn it on once the boot is started, or something silly like that. I think it has to do with having both internal and external drives on the same controller, but I'm not sure. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 PGP & MIME spoken here http://www.kciLink.com/home/khera/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 8:41: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F1DE37BD0E for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:40:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03979CF17; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 17:40:43 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <14526.37497.981697.452892@onceler.kcilink.com> References: <14526.37497.981697.452892@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 17:22:51 +0100 To: Vivek Khera From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Crash on boot when disks are present? Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:10 AM -0500 2000/3/2, Vivek Khera wrote: > There are anecdotal reports of other external SCSI drives causing such > errors at boot on BSD/OS as well. The solution is to power up with > the drive off, and turn it on once the boot is started, or something > silly like that. But why is it a problem now, when it wasn't a problem earlier this week? Could a simple firmware upgrade of the controller on the drive array really cause problems that severe? > I think it has to do with having both internal and > external drives on the same controller, but I'm not sure. This is not what I have. I have two Adaptec 2940U2W controllers that are dedicated to this drive array, and the internal drive is on a separate controller (the built-in AIC-7890). -- These are my opinions and should not be taken as official Skynet policy ========================================================================= Brad Knowles, Sys. Arch., Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of this message. If you are using a Microsoft program to view this message, be forewarned that I am not responsible for any harm you may encounter as a result. See for details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 9:21:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from argon.blackdawn.com (deepspace9.dcds.edu [207.231.151.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B080037BCEA; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:21:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from will@blackdawn.com) Received: by argon.blackdawn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6331819D5; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:21:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:21:45 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami Cc: Gawel , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: make fetch + dependencies Message-ID: <20000302122145.A448@argon.blackdawn.com> References: <38BA81C7.E7FA0940@sim.com.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from asami@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 02:00:13PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 02:00:13PM -0800, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote: > make DEPENDS_TARGET=checksum checksum Cool! I didn't know that it was even possible to recursively download all distfiles of a port. Perhaps a target that calls checksum with DEPENDS_TARGET=checksum is in order, to simplify things? -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 9:36: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from malasada.lava.net (malasada.lava.net [199.222.42.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D654837BD5D for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:36:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cliftonr@lava.net) Received: from localhost (2421 bytes) by malasada.lava.net via sendmail with P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 07:35:58 -1000 (HST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #3 built 1999-Dec-7) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 07:35:58 -1000 From: Clifton Royston To: Brad Knowles Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Crash on boot when disks are present? Message-ID: <20000302073558.A3582@lava.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 02, 2000 at 12:45:35PM +0100, Brad Knowles wrote: > I've gone in and made sure that the BIOS has been changed (yet > once again) to try to boot off the internal Quantum Atlas-IV drive > that is attached to the AIC-7890 controller, because the external > drive array does not have the OS installed, etc.... Unfortunately, > when I try to boot with the drive array turned on, it crashes hard > (during the bootloader phase, I think), displaying the following: > > F1 DOS > F2 FreeBSD > F5 Drive 1 > > Default: F2 > > - > int=00000000 err=00000000 efl=00030083 eip=00000004 > eax=000004e3 ebx=0000097f ecx=0000dc00 edx=000034be > esi=0000dc00 edi=00000004 ebp=00000000 esp=000004ce > cs=c800 ds=c800 es=9e7d fs=0000 gs=0000 ss=9e7b > cs:eip=d4 00 00 00 00 00 00 00-00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 > ss:esp=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00-00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Have you tried installing a fresh master boot record on the new virtual drives? (I've found that booting to a DOS floppy and using the undocumented FDISK /MBR is the simplest way to do this.) It's possible that changing the RAID sets around has caused either the BIOS or FreeBSD to try to boot off of those drives when they're present. I did have a hard time (for instance) getting FreeBSD to boot off the internal drive on the second channel of the integrated 7896; the BIOS would boot the loader off the internal drive, and then FreeBSD would start trying to complete the boot from the first drive it saw, which was one of the external ones. Also, of course, all the usual rules about looking for new SCSI bus termination problems before all else apply; possibly the firmware upgrade changed some controller settings relating to termination. Good luck. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- LavaNet Systems Architect -- cliftonr@lava.net The named which can be named is not the Eternal named. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 9:42:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from goliath.siemens.de (goliath.siemens.de [194.138.37.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97FFB37BD50 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:42:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer goliath.siemens.de) Received: from mail1.siemens.de (mail1.siemens.de [139.23.33.14]) by goliath.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA22306 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:42:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.42.7]) by mail1.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA20366 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:42:13 +0100 (MET) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA66810 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:42:13 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:42:12 +0100 From: Andre Albsmeier To: Brad Knowles Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Crash on boot when disks are present? Message-ID: <20000302184212.A20215@internal> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from blk@skynet.be on Thu, Mar 02, 2000 at 12:45:35PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 02-Mar-2000 at 12:45:35 +0100, Brad Knowles wrote: > Folks, > > This one is so weird that I don't have the foggiest clue how I'd > go about searching the archives for answers. Searching for "crash on > boot" netted me way more hits than I care to try to count. I felt similar about two weeks ago... > > I've got a FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE system (cvsup'ed a couple of weeks > ago) that I've been doing some tests with and it has been working > pretty well up until now (after I got the issues of which PCI slots I > can plug SCSI controllers into ;-). > > Anyway, the vendor field engineer for our disk drive array (one > of those expensive mainframe-style refrigerator-size models) came in > this morning to try to fix some problems we're having with it not > recognizing all the RAM that is installed, and among other things he > did a firmware upgrade of the controllers, and while we were at it we Do you have set the geometry to 1023/256/63 on the affected drives? You might want to look into PR# 16803 ... -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 9:45:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from argon.blackdawn.com (deepspace9.dcds.edu [207.231.151.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74CA537BF59; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:45:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from will@blackdawn.com) Received: by argon.blackdawn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 166EE19D5; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:45:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:45:15 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Will Andrews Cc: Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami , Gawel , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: make fetch + dependencies Message-ID: <20000302124515.A2211@argon.blackdawn.com> References: <38BA81C7.E7FA0940@sim.com.pl> <20000302122145.A448@argon.blackdawn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000302122145.A448@argon.blackdawn.com>; from andrews@TECHNOLOGIST.COM on Thu, Mar 02, 2000 at 12:21:45PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 02, 2000 at 12:21:45PM -0500, Will Andrews wrote: > On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 02:00:13PM -0800, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote: > > make DEPENDS_TARGET=checksum checksum > > Cool! I didn't know that it was even possible to recursively download all > distfiles of a port. Perhaps a target that calls checksum with > DEPENDS_TARGET=checksum is in order, to simplify things? I spoke too soon. The above does not download the dependencies' distfiles recursively. I can, if you do not know of a way to do this with the current bsd.port.mk, attempt to create a new target that will perform this task. -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 9:50:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE61637BD95 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:50:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from mail1.siemens.de (mail1.siemens.de [139.23.33.14]) by david.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA22002 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:50:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.42.7]) by mail1.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA22450 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:50:21 +0100 (MET) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA66877 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:50:21 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:50:19 +0100 From: Andre Albsmeier To: Brad Knowles Cc: Vivek Khera , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Crash on boot when disks are present? Message-ID: <20000302185019.B20215@internal> References: <14526.37497.981697.452892@onceler.kcilink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from blk@skynet.be on Thu, Mar 02, 2000 at 05:22:51PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Don't remeber if my other reply went to Brad also or only to the list... ] On Thu, 02-Mar-2000 at 17:22:51 +0100, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 11:10 AM -0500 2000/3/2, Vivek Khera wrote: > > > There are anecdotal reports of other external SCSI drives causing such > > errors at boot on BSD/OS as well. The solution is to power up with > > the drive off, and turn it on once the boot is started, or something > > silly like that. > > But why is it a problem now, when it wasn't a problem earlier > this week? Could a simple firmware upgrade of the controller on the > drive array really cause problems that severe? Yes. See PR #16803. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 9:52: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.uunet.ca (mail4.uunet.ca [209.167.141.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89ADB37BD95 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:51:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca ([216.95.146.6]) by mail4.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <208391-326>; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:51:42 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:51:40 -0500 From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Will Andrews Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: make fetch + dependencies In-Reply-To: <20000302124515.A2211@argon.blackdawn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can't you just "make fetch" from /usr/ports to recursively download all the distfiles? This seems to work on my 3.4-stable system: root[epsilon]:/usr/ports# make fetch ===> archivers ===> archivers/arc >> arc521e.pl8.tar.Z doesn't seem to exist on this system. >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.kiarchive.ru/pub/unix/arcers/. Receiving arc521e.pl8.tar.Z (100821 bytes): 100% 100821 bytes transferred in 4.8 seconds (20.59 Kbytes/s) ===> archivers/bzip >> bzip-0.21.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist on this system. >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.connectnet.com/pub/bzip/bzip-0.21/. Receiving bzip-0.21.tar.gz (325757 bytes): 100% 325757 bytes transferred in 2.9 seconds (111.49 Kbytes/s) -- Matt Heckaman [matt@arpa.mail.net|matt@relic.net] [Please do not send me] !Powered by FreeBSD/x86! [http://www.freebsd.org] [any SPAM (UCE) e-mail] On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Will Andrews wrote: : Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:45:15 -0500 : From: Will Andrews : To: Will Andrews : Cc: Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami , : Gawel , : "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" : Subject: Re: make fetch + dependencies : : On Thu, Mar 02, 2000 at 12:21:45PM -0500, Will Andrews wrote: : > On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 02:00:13PM -0800, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote: : > > make DEPENDS_TARGET=checksum checksum : > : > Cool! I didn't know that it was even possible to recursively download all : > distfiles of a port. Perhaps a target that calls checksum with : > DEPENDS_TARGET=checksum is in order, to simplify things? : : I spoke too soon. The above does not download the dependencies' distfiles : recursively. : : I can, if you do not know of a way to do this with the current bsd.port.mk, : attempt to create a new target that will perform this task. : : -- : Will Andrews : GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- : ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ : G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? : : : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org : with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 9:53: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62D437C5C7 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:52:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1AC126F3; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:52:33 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20000302073558.A3582@lava.net> References: <20000302073558.A3582@lava.net> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:52:02 +0100 To: Clifton Royston From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Crash on boot when disks are present? Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 7:35 AM -1000 2000/3/2, Clifton Royston wrote: > Have you tried installing a fresh master boot record on the new virtual > drives? They never had one to begin with (no OS is stored out there), so I don't understand how this could make a difference. > It's possible that changing the RAID sets around has caused either the > BIOS or FreeBSD to try to boot off of those drives when they're > present. That happens all the time. Any time I boot the machine while the drive array is turned off, or if I delete the logical units that are exported to the host, then the next time the machine boots it will try to boot from the external drives. I fix this by going into the BIOS each time something like this happens and re-ordering the disks that will be booted from. If I don't, then I get an error message to the effect of "No bootable image could be found. Insert a bootable disk and press any key." > I did have a hard time (for instance) getting FreeBSD to boot > off the internal drive on the second channel of the integrated 7896; > the BIOS would boot the loader off the internal drive, and then FreeBSD > would start trying to complete the boot from the first drive it saw, > which was one of the external ones. Up until now, I either haven't gotten the loader at all (when I haven't re-ordered the drives that it will try to boot from), or it has found the loader on the internal drive and worked fine. > Also, of course, all the usual rules about looking for new SCSI bus > termination problems before all else apply; possibly the firmware > upgrade changed some controller settings relating to termination. Terminators are installed externally, and haven't been moved. Termination status on the host controllers hasn't changed. I should also note that this problem appears to be sporadic -- sometimes I can boot up just fine. The problem happens much more frequently when I do a soft reboot, and happens less frequently when I hit the hardware reset switch after doing a proper "shutdown -h". -- These are my opinions and should not be taken as official Skynet policy ========================================================================= Brad Knowles, Sys. Arch., Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of this message. If you are using a Microsoft program to view this message, be forewarned that I am not responsible for any harm you may encounter as a result. See for details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 9:54:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from goliath.siemens.de (goliath.siemens.de [194.138.37.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3F7537BFF5 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:54:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer goliath.siemens.de) Received: from mail2.siemens.de (mail2.siemens.de [139.25.208.11]) by goliath.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA24402 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:54:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.42.7]) by mail2.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA26458 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:54:40 +0100 (MET) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA66928 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:54:40 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:54:39 +0100 From: Andre Albsmeier To: Didier Derny Cc: Kris Kirby , lluisma , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Tuning: FreeBSD as static router with 6 fast ethernet cards Message-ID: <20000302185439.C20215@internal> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from didier@omnix.net on Thu, Mar 02, 2000 at 10:58:14AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 02-Mar-2000 at 10:58:14 +0000, Didier Derny wrote: > > what dual 10/100 ethernet card do you suggest ? I wasn't asked but I use the Intel ExterExpress Dual Channel with great success. I have only one of them and a single channel Intel ExterExpress as well: Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x02 on pci0.1.0 chip2: rev 0x02 on pci0.4.0 chip3: rev 0x02 on pci0.4.3 fxp0: rev 0x05 int a irq 12 on pci0.7.0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:e0:18:90:45:dc ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 15 on pci0.9.0 ahc0: aic7880 Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc1: rev 0x03 int a irq 12 on pci0.10.0 ahc1: aic7895 Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 255 SCBs ahc2: rev 0x03 int b irq 15 on pci0.10.1 ahc2: aic7895 Single Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 255 SCBs chip4: rev 0x03 on pci0.12.0 Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: Probing for devices on PCI bus 2: fxp1: rev 0x05 int a irq 11 on pci2.4.0 fxp1: Ethernet address 00:90:27:d3:16:b7 fxp2: rev 0x05 int a irq 10 on pci2.5.0 fxp2: Ethernet address 00:90:27:d3:16:b8 -Andre > > I've tried the adaptec board 4x 10/100 but it was a disaster > (very expensive and impossible to put 2 boards at the same time) > > On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Kris Kirby wrote: > > > > I have this opportunity to use freebsd as a router serving 15 subnets > > > with six fast ethernet cards(will do aliasing to support all 15 subnets) > > > supporting about 1,200 PCs running windows. In addition, this freebsd > > > router will also run samba 2.0.6( to act as local master browser for > > > all subnets) and ipfilter and nothing else. All PCs are connected to > > > switches with 10/100 mbit ports. > > > > Might be better to use three dual 10/100 ethernet cards. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 9:55:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from argon.blackdawn.com (deepspace9.dcds.edu [207.231.151.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5E637BDAD for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:55:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from will@blackdawn.com) Received: by argon.blackdawn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CF2701A02; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:55:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:55:20 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Matt Heckaman Cc: Will Andrews , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: make fetch + dependencies Message-ID: <20000302125520.B2211@argon.blackdawn.com> References: <20000302124515.A2211@argon.blackdawn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET on Thu, Mar 02, 2000 at 12:51:40PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 02, 2000 at 12:51:40PM -0500, Matt Heckaman wrote: > Can't you just "make fetch" from /usr/ports to recursively download all > the distfiles? This seems to work on my 3.4-stable system: > > root[epsilon]:/usr/ports# make fetch > ===> archivers > ===> archivers/arc > >> arc521e.pl8.tar.Z doesn't seem to exist on this system. > >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.kiarchive.ru/pub/unix/arcers/. > Receiving arc521e.pl8.tar.Z (100821 bytes): 100% > 100821 bytes transferred in 4.8 seconds (20.59 Kbytes/s) > ===> archivers/bzip > >> bzip-0.21.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist on this system. > >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.connectnet.com/pub/bzip/bzip-0.21/. > Receiving bzip-0.21.tar.gz (325757 bytes): 100% > 325757 bytes transferred in 2.9 seconds (111.49 Kbytes/s) You don't understand - I'm not trying to recursively fetch all the ports of a given category - I'm trying to recursively fetch the dependencies' distfiles for a given port, not just that port's distfiles. -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 9:57:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1473037C0E9 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:57:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036EBCDAB; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:57:17 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20000302184212.A20215@internal> References: <20000302184212.A20215@internal> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:54:30 +0100 To: Andre Albsmeier From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Crash on boot when disks are present? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 6:42 PM +0100 2000/3/2, Andre Albsmeier wrote: > Do you have set the geometry to 1023/256/63 on the affected drives? > > You might want to look into PR# 16803 ... Where would this geometry be set? From within the BIOS, I presume? I'll have to shut the machine down and take a look. I'll let you know as soon as I find out what it is currently set to, but I think 1023/256/63 is what came up automatically. -- These are my opinions and should not be taken as official Skynet policy ========================================================================= Brad Knowles, Sys. Arch., Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of this message. If you are using a Microsoft program to view this message, be forewarned that I am not responsible for any harm you may encounter as a result. See for details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 9:58:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uunet.ca (mail2.uunet.ca [142.77.1.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5139C37C157 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:58:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca ([216.95.146.6]) by mail2.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <600243-19680>; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:54:37 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:58:32 -0500 From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Will Andrews Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: make fetch + dependencies In-Reply-To: <20000302125520.B2211@argon.blackdawn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Will Andrews wrote: [...] : You don't understand - I'm not trying to recursively fetch all the ports of : a given category - I'm trying to recursively fetch the dependencies' : distfiles for a given port, not just that port's distfiles. That, makes a whole lot more sense, I was wondering why someone would want to get all the ports distfiles in that manner.. Remind me to read more carefully nex time. =) : -- : Will Andrews : GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- : ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ : G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? Matt -- Matt Heckaman [matt@arpa.mail.net|matt@relic.net] [Please do not send me] !Powered by FreeBSD/x86! [http://www.freebsd.org] [any SPAM (UCE) e-mail] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 10: 7: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94F637C343 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 10:06:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from mail1.siemens.de (mail1.siemens.de [139.23.33.14]) by david.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA25528 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 19:06:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.42.7]) by mail1.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA26933 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 19:06:51 +0100 (MET) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA66998 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 19:06:51 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 19:06:48 +0100 From: Andre Albsmeier To: Brad Knowles Cc: Andre Albsmeier , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Crash on boot when disks are present? Message-ID: <20000302190648.A20429@internal> References: <20000302184212.A20215@internal> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from blk@skynet.be on Thu, Mar 02, 2000 at 06:54:30PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 02-Mar-2000 at 18:54:30 +0100, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 6:42 PM +0100 2000/3/2, Andre Albsmeier wrote: > > > Do you have set the geometry to 1023/256/63 on the affected drives? > > > > You might want to look into PR# 16803 ... > > Where would this geometry be set? From within the BIOS, I > presume? I'll have to shut the machine down and take a look. > > I'll let you know as soon as I find out what it is currently set > to, but I think 1023/256/63 is what came up automatically. You don;t have to shut it down. Simply do an 'fdisk daxxx' where xxx is the drivenumber. Do it for all drives attached. One with 1023/256/63 is enough to stop the boot process. Here is how it looks like now on one of my servers: ------------------ snip -------------------- andre@server:~>fdisk da0 ******* Working on device /dev/rda0 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=1024 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=1024 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 0, size 8925000 (4357 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 0; end: cyl 1023/ sector 63/ head 254 The data for partition 2 is: The data for partition 3 is: The data for partition 4 is: ------------------ snap -------------------- Remember: The line end: cyl 1023/ sector 63/ head 254 tells us that we have 255 heads because they start with 0. This is already taken into accout in the line reading: cylinders=1024 heads=255 sectors/track=63 If this one shows heads=256 (or the former one head 255) you probably suffer from the same problem as I did. -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 10:25:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6F9237BD5A for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 10:25:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1984A126A0; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 19:25:29 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20000302190648.A20429@internal> References: <20000302184212.A20215@internal> <20000302190648.A20429@internal> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 19:25:21 +0100 To: Andre Albsmeier From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Crash on boot when disks are present? Cc: Andre Albsmeier , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 7:06 PM +0100 2000/3/2, Andre Albsmeier wrote: > You don;t have to shut it down. Simply do an 'fdisk daxxx' where xxx is > the drivenumber. Do it for all drives attached. One with 1023/256/63 is > enough to stop the boot process. Here's what I get on one of the devices: $ fdisk da1 ******* Working on device /dev/rda1 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=10873 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=10873 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 63, size 16771797 (8189 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 1; end: cyl 1023/ sector 63/ head 254 The data for partition 2 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 16771860, size 157902885 (77101 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 1023/ sector 63/ head 255; end: cyl 1023/ sector 63/ head 254 The data for partition 3 is: The data for partition 4 is: I get the same for da2, and da3 is: $ fdisk da3 ******* Working on device /dev/rda3 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=8698 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=8698 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 63, size 139733307 (68229 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 1; end: cyl 1023/ sector 63/ head 254 The data for partition 2 is: The data for partition 3 is: The data for partition 4 is: Devices da4, da5, and da6 are the same logical units, but accessed through the other controller. I get the same information for them as I do for da1-3 (which is as it should be ;-). As far as I can tell, these shouldn't cause a problem for me booting, should they? I mean, the number of cylinders is very high, but the number of heads and sectors/track is right, I think. -- These are my opinions and should not be taken as official Skynet policy ========================================================================= Brad Knowles, Sys. Arch., Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of this message. If you are using a Microsoft program to view this message, be forewarned that I am not responsible for any harm you may encounter as a result. See for details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 10:30:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76C237BD64 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 10:30:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24271CF8D; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 19:30:03 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200003021602.JAA12181@guppy.orem.iserver.com> References: <200003021602.JAA12181@guppy.orem.iserver.com> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 19:29:47 +0100 To: Jamie Gritton , stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: recent vinum changes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 9:02 AM -0700 2000/3/2, Jamie Gritton wrote: > I saw commit messages for the vinum driver, which apparantly apply only > to current. As we've been having terrible vinum problems since we started > using it (reviving a mirror almost guarantees a panic and a destroyed > filesystem), and this is apparently fixed, I'd like to know if there are > plans to make these same changes to a stable version. I won't pretend to speak for Greg (although I'm not sure he monitors this list, you may need to contact him directly). However, the last word I heard from Greg were that he was concentrating all his work on 4.0-CURRENT, and it didn't sound like anything was likely to get back-ported to -STABLE. That said, mirroring under -STABLE should be pretty rock-solid, and if you can show him a case where it bombs, I would assume that he would be inclined to try to work out the bug and the fix for it, which should then get incorporated into future versions of -STABLE. -- These are my opinions and should not be taken as official Skynet policy ========================================================================= Brad Knowles, Sys. Arch., Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of this message. If you are using a Microsoft program to view this message, be forewarned that I am not responsible for any harm you may encounter as a result. See for details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 10:38:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from goliath.siemens.de (goliath.siemens.de [194.138.37.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17EB37BD5A for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 10:38:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer goliath.siemens.de) Received: from mail1.siemens.de (mail1.siemens.de [139.23.33.14]) by goliath.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA00607 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 19:38:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.42.7]) by mail1.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA03486 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 19:38:12 +0100 (MET) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA67201 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 19:38:12 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 19:38:09 +0100 From: Andre Albsmeier To: Brad Knowles Cc: Andre Albsmeier , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Crash on boot when disks are present? Message-ID: <20000302193809.A20528@internal> References: <20000302184212.A20215@internal> <20000302190648.A20429@internal> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from blk@skynet.be on Thu, Mar 02, 2000 at 07:25:21PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 02-Mar-2000 at 19:25:21 +0100, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 7:06 PM +0100 2000/3/2, Andre Albsmeier wrote: > > > You don;t have to shut it down. Simply do an 'fdisk daxxx' where xxx is > > the drivenumber. Do it for all drives attached. One with 1023/256/63 is > > enough to stop the boot process. > > Here's what I get on one of the devices: > > $ fdisk da1 > ******* Working on device /dev/rda1 ******* > parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: > cylinders=10873 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) > > Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 > parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: > cylinders=10873 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) > > Media sector size is 512 > Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 > Information from DOS bootblock is: > The data for partition 1 is: > sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) > start 63, size 16771797 (8189 Meg), flag 80 (active) > beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 1; > end: cyl 1023/ sector 63/ head 254 > The data for partition 2 is: > sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) > start 16771860, size 157902885 (77101 Meg), flag 80 (active) > beg: cyl 1023/ sector 63/ head 255 ^^^ ||| Hmm, don't know if this one might cause problems. Do you really use two slices on this drive? You might try to change this into 254 if you really use the slice... But I would try the thing I have written below first... > end: cyl 1023/ sector 63/ head 254 > The data for partition 3 is: > > The data for partition 4 is: > > > I get the same for da2, and da3 is: > > $ fdisk da3 > ******* Working on device /dev/rda3 ******* > parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: > cylinders=8698 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) > > Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 > parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: > cylinders=8698 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) > > Media sector size is 512 > Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 > Information from DOS bootblock is: > The data for partition 1 is: > sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) > start 63, size 139733307 (68229 Meg), flag 80 (active) > beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 1; > end: cyl 1023/ sector 63/ head 254 > The data for partition 2 is: > > The data for partition 3 is: > > The data for partition 4 is: > > > Devices da4, da5, and da6 are the same logical units, but > accessed through the other controller. I get the same information > for them as I do for da1-3 (which is as it should be ;-). > > > As far as I can tell, these shouldn't cause a problem for me > booting, should they? I mean, the number of cylinders is very high, > but the number of heads and sectors/track is right, I think. You might try the following: Go into the Adaptec BIOS with CTRL-A and disable the 'include in BIOS scan' entry for every drive except the boot drive. If you boot from da0 disable the entry for all other drives on all controllers. As a result, you will see only your boot drive being scanned during boot. If you can boot (single user mode is enough) then it might be the same problem as I had. The things I wrote in the PR is what I have observed here. I had 255(256) heads in my partitions and changing the to 254(255) fixed it. Of course it is possible that there are still other things which simply didn't apply here... -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 10:40:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.veriohosting.com (gatekeeper.veriohosting.com [192.41.0.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3789537C230 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 10:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gritton@iserver.com) Received: by gatekeeper.veriohosting.com; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:40:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from unknown(192.168.1.110) by gatekeeper.veriohosting.com via smap (V3.1.1) id xma000636; Thu, 2 Mar 00 11:39:50 -0700 Received: by guppy.orem.iserver.com; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:39:30 -0700 (MST) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recent vinum changes References: <200003021602.JAA12181@guppy.orem.iserver.com> From: Jamie Gritton Date: 02 Mar 2000 11:39:30 -0700 In-Reply-To: Brad Knowles's message of "Thu, 2 Mar 2000 19:29:47 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 26 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brad Knowles writes: > the last word I heard from Greg were that he was concentrating all > his work on 4.0-CURRENT, and it didn't sound like anything was likely > to get back-ported to -STABLE. > That said, mirroring under -STABLE should be pretty rock-solid... That's unfortunate, given the comment he included in the vinumrevive.c log: | Fix horrible, embarrassing breakage which caused occasional panics and | data corruption. It's a wonder it worked at all. I think this indicates that the mirroring currently under -STABLE is anything but rock-solid. > ...and if you can show him a case where it bombs, I would assume that he > would be inclined to try to work out the bug and the fix for it, > which should then get incorporated into future versions of -STABLE. We've sent such already, and it matches the log comment. What can I say, but that I've been experiencing regular panics and complete data obliteration anytime I needed to revive a vinum mirror? - Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 11: 1:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37BB437B6AC for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:01:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F5F12732; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 20:01:34 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20000302193809.A20528@internal> References: <20000302184212.A20215@internal> <20000302190648.A20429@internal> <20000302193809.A20528@internal> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 19:57:06 +0100 To: Andre Albsmeier From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Crash on boot when disks are present? Cc: Andre Albsmeier , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 7:38 PM +0100 2000/3/2, Andre Albsmeier wrote: > Hmm, don't know if this one might cause problems. Do you > really use two slices on this drive? You might try to > change this into 254 if you really use the slice... I'm testing out a variety of configurations. One thing I'm looking at is trying to get more speed out of this bloody thing by having it define multiple RAID-5 or RAID-0 devices, then doing software striping across them (it can't do this internally). So yes, in that configuration I would need multiple slices. > You might try the following: Go into the Adaptec BIOS with CTRL-A > and disable the 'include in BIOS scan' entry for every drive > except the boot drive. Hmm. I had tried doing that before (so that I didn't have to re-order the devices that the BIOS tried to boot from), and didn't have any success finding it. I'll have to look again. > If you boot from da0 disable the entry > for all other drives on all controllers. As a result, you will > see only your boot drive being scanned during boot. If you can boot > (single user mode is enough) then it might be the same problem as > I had. I'll give it a shot and see what happens. Thanks! -- These are my opinions and should not be taken as official Skynet policy ========================================================================= Brad Knowles, Sys. Arch., Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of this message. If you are using a Microsoft program to view this message, be forewarned that I am not responsible for any harm you may encounter as a result. See for details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 11: 1:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6725837BD3E for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:01:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F1612717; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 20:01:42 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <200003021602.JAA12181@guppy.orem.iserver.com> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 20:00:13 +0100 To: Jamie Gritton , stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: recent vinum changes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:39 AM -0700 2000/3/2, Jamie Gritton wrote: > I think this indicates that the mirroring currently under -STABLE is anything > but rock-solid. Yes, this is very unfortunate. > We've sent such already, and it matches the log comment. What can I say, > but that I've been experiencing regular panics and complete data > obliteration anytime I needed to revive a vinum mirror? So you've already talked to Greg about this issue and he's not interested in back-porting this particular code change to -STABLE? If so, then I have to wonder if vinum is going to be removed entirely from -STABLE, because without something a basic as this, I don't see how you can consider it "stable". -- These are my opinions and should not be taken as official Skynet policy ========================================================================= Brad Knowles, Sys. Arch., Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of this message. If you are using a Microsoft program to view this message, be forewarned that I am not responsible for any harm you may encounter as a result. See for details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 11: 7:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server1.huntsvilleal.com (www.huntsvilleal.com [207.13.224.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5096D37B545 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:07:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@hiwaay.net) Received: from barricuda.bsd.nws.net (kris.huntsvilleal.com [207.13.224.46]) by server1.huntsvilleal.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15525; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 13:48:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by barricuda.bsd.nws.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA42880; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 13:06:43 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kris@hiwaay.net) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 13:06:43 -0600 (CST) From: Kris Kirby To: Didier Derny Cc: lluisma , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Tuning: FreeBSD as static router with 6 fast ethernet cards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > what dual 10/100 ethernet card do you suggest ? > > I've tried the adaptec board 4x 10/100 but it was a disaster > (very expensive and impossible to put 2 boards at the same time) I've yet to deal with dual ethernet cards, but I've always held the Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B with the highest regard. A dual card can cost up to $150, so this isn't for the faint of heart. It uses the fxp(4) driver. Other cards of note are the DEC 21140 ethernet controller, of which a few multiport varieties exist. I'm not certain if 3Com has a dual card, but I lean away from 3Com even though most of my cards are made by them. You have to understand, I usually don't pay more than $10 for a ethernet card, fast or not. I know where I can get 4-6 MX (the RTL 8139 clone) cards for $9.95 a piece, 30 day warranty. The switches eat me alive. :-) I believe you won't find a bad word said about the Intel card, except for the new "manageable" ones. --- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR | TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. | ------------------------------------------------------- "God gave them the ability to reproduce... ... Science gave us the hope they won't." -KBK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 11:31:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.veriohosting.com (gatekeeper.veriohosting.com [192.41.0.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11D037B509 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:31:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gritton@iserver.com) Received: by gatekeeper.veriohosting.com; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:31:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from unknown(192.168.1.110) by gatekeeper.veriohosting.com via smap (V3.1.1) id xma008885; Thu, 2 Mar 00 12:30:58 -0700 Received: by guppy.orem.iserver.com; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:30:38 -0700 (MST) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recent vinum changes References: <200003021602.JAA12181@guppy.orem.iserver.com> From: Jamie Gritton Date: 02 Mar 2000 12:30:37 -0700 In-Reply-To: Brad Knowles's message of "Thu, 2 Mar 2000 20:00:13 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 27 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brad Knowles writes: >> We've sent such already, and it matches the log comment... > So you've already talked to Greg about this issue and he's not > interested in back-porting this particular code change to -STABLE? It wasn't that recent. I wasn't the one who sent the emails, but my understanding is that he wanted more specifics, and I wasn't sure if we were ever able to give him a reproducible case (though we were able to reproduce it ourselves). Last I heard on this was a couple of weeks ago. In the meantime, we're not completely without vinum. If I'm careful, I can have one-strike-you're-out mirrors that will at least get me past the first disk crash, and then I can copy the files to new hardware. Then I saw the recent commits and became hopeful that my problems were over. My assumption was that new features may be only for CURRENT, but that bugfixes (and the log labels this as such) are generally added to STABLE. Considering the extent of this particular bug, this seems like just the sort of back-porting issue. > If so, then I have to wonder if vinum is going to be removed > entirely from -STABLE, because without something a basic as this, I > don't see how you can consider it "stable". Quite so. So Greg, can we expect to see this in CURRENT? - Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 12: 0:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server1.huntsvilleal.com (www.huntsvilleal.com [207.13.224.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2347337B537 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:00:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@hiwaay.net) Received: from barricuda.bsd.nws.net (kris.huntsvilleal.com [207.13.224.46]) by server1.huntsvilleal.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16487; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:41:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by barricuda.bsd.nws.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA43393; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:00:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kris@hiwaay.net) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:00:00 -0600 (CST) From: Kris Kirby To: Brian Somers Cc: "Sameer R. Manek" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org Subject: Re: your mail (PPP) In-Reply-To: <200003010817.IAA00496@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Compression is quite expensive. If you're not negotiating CCP I'd be > quite surprised if the increased load average was even noticable. NAT. But CCP isn't running. PPP ON barricuda> show ccp deflink: CCP [Stopped] Defaults: FSM retry = 3s, max 5 Config REQs, 5 Term REQs deflate windows: incoming = 0, outgoing = 15 DEFLATE: enabled & accepted PREDICTOR1: enabled & accepted DEFLATE24: disabled & denied PPP ON barricuda> ---- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR | TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. | ------------------------------------------------------- "God gave them the ability to reproduce... ... Science gave us the hope they won't." -KBK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 12: 3:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kg.ops.uunet.co.za (kg.ops.uunet.co.za [196.31.1.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8283437B51A for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:03:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from khetan@uunet.co.za) Received: from bofh.ops.uunet.co.za (bofh.ops.uunet.co.za [196.31.1.35]) by kg.ops.uunet.co.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D0316E04; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:03:06 +0200 (SAST) Received: by bofh.ops.uunet.co.za (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 924615BD5; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:03:00 +0200 (SAST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bofh.ops.uunet.co.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D0FE1ED8; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:03:00 +0200 (SAST) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:03:00 +0200 (SAST) From: Khetan Gajjar X-Sender: khetan@bofh.ops.uunet.co.za To: Jamie Gritton Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: recent vinum changes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi. I saw your message in -stable today, and needed to ask you something. Around Today, "Jamie Gritton" wrote : JG> but that I've been experiencing regular panics and complete data JG> obliteration anytime I needed to revive a vinum mirror? How are you reviving a vinum mirror ? I haven't yet had the need to do so, but I'm dreading doing it now that you mention this. How do you do this ? To create the mirror, I effectively partitioned the disk, labelled them as type vinum partitions, and created a mirror with two identical disks. What happens if one of the disks dies ? Does the machine panic ? Khetan Gajjar. --- khetan@uunet.co.za * khetan@os.org.za * PGP Key, contact UUNET South Africa * FreeBSD enthusiast * details and other http://www.uunet.co.za * http://www.freebsd.org * information at System Administration * http://office.os.org.za * kg+details@uunet.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 12:19:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.veriohosting.com (gatekeeper.veriohosting.com [192.41.0.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F9137B51A for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:19:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gritton@iserver.com) Received: by gatekeeper.veriohosting.com; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 13:19:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from unknown(192.168.1.110) by gatekeeper.veriohosting.com via smap (V3.1.1) id xma017909; Thu, 2 Mar 00 13:19:47 -0700 Received: by guppy.orem.iserver.com; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 13:19:27 -0700 (MST) To: Khetan Gajjar Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recent vinum changes References: From: Jamie Gritton Date: 02 Mar 2000 13:19:27 -0700 In-Reply-To: Khetan Gajjar's message of "Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:03:00 +0200 (SAST)" Message-ID: Lines: 18 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Khetan Gajjar writes: > How are you reviving a vinum mirror ? I haven't yet had the > need to do so, but I'm dreading doing it now that you mention > this. Generally, a "vinum start" on the previously dead plex. It will usually revive OK if you do this in single-user, but any reasonable level of filesystem activity panics the system, and when it comes up, there's nothing left of /usr (on either half of the mirror). > What happens if one of the disks dies ? Does the machine > panic ? No, it does OK as long as you never try to revive. That's our current situation. - Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 14:12:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (tun.AwfulHak.org [194.242.139.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3182137B536; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:12:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA84702; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:11:10 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00430; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 07:52:32 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200003020752.HAA00430@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Tony Finch Cc: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: codecrusader and ntp In-Reply-To: Message from Tony Finch of "Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:03:56 GMT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 07:52:32 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Nik Clayton wrote: > > > >Tip: When you install a port/package, and want to know what commands it > > has, try > > > > grep bin /var/db/pkg//+CONTENT > > not `pkg_info -L package_name | grep bin`? Hmm, I guess nik is exhibiting his ``hacker'' status in the worst possible way :*I > Tony. > -- > f.a.n.finch fanf@demon.net dot@dotat.at > 458 the delicate dew drops of disgust -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 15:15:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAEF837BB9D for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:15:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25470; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:15:36 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01292; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:15:36 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <200003022315.KAA01292@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: Kenneth W Cochran , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fixed: Trouble installing xpdf port in 3.4-stable In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 02 Mar 2000 06:54:38 -0800. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 10:15:35 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Each CDROM directory contains symlinks to distfiles (created using > lndir) on CDROM. My distfiles directory contains symlinks to files > within /FreeBSD or archives-? directories (Zip disks). Cute idea. What I do is copy the filename.txt file from each CD on to disk somewhere and grep that. Then I know which disk to mount. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 16:30:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (tun.AwfulHak.org [194.242.139.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E67137B5F1 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 16:30:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA85221; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:28:06 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA03305; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:28:05 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200003030028.AAA03305@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Kris Kirby Cc: Brian Somers , "Sameer R. Manek" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org, brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org Subject: Re: your mail (PPP) In-Reply-To: Message from Kris Kirby of "Thu, 02 Mar 2000 14:00:00 CST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 00:28:05 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Compression is quite expensive. If you're not negotiating CCP I'd be > > quite surprised if the increased load average was even noticable. > > NAT. But CCP isn't running. > > PPP ON barricuda> show ccp > deflink: CCP [Stopped] > > Defaults: FSM retry = 3s, max 5 Config REQs, 5 Term REQs > deflate windows: incoming = 0, outgoing = 15 > DEFLATE: enabled & accepted > PREDICTOR1: enabled & accepted > DEFLATE24: disabled & denied > PPP ON barricuda> Strange. NAT shouldn't use much CPU... It'd be interesting to see if the load average decreases when the link is idle. > ---- > Kris Kirby, KE4AHR | TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. > | > ------------------------------------------------------- > "God gave them the ability to reproduce... > ... Science gave us the hope they won't." -KBK -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 17: 2:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dervish.mail.pipex.net (dervish.mail.pipex.net [158.43.192.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B22A37BEAD for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 17:01:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: (qmail 14465 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2000 00:57:40 -0000 Received: from userau42.uk.uudial.com (HELO marder-1.) (62.188.137.244) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 3 Mar 2000 00:57:40 -0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA01235; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:35:41 GMT (envelope-from mark) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:35:41 +0000 From: Mark Ovens To: Kris Kennaway Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , Jonathon McKitrick , Roland Jesse , Neil Blakey-Milner , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make clean problem in 'biology' Message-ID: <20000303003541.C327@marder-1> References: <20000302020254.E327@marder-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from kris@hub.freebsd.org on Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 06:57:48PM -0800 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 06:57:48PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Mark Ovens wrote: > > > But is it really a bug? For instance, I have xview installed on my > > system but pkg_version reports xview-config-3.2.1 and xview-lib-3.2.1 > > as "unknown in index" so if I tried to ``make clean'' > > xview-3.2.1 I would expect it to crash as neither of the the 2 > > dependencies are in the current ports tree. > > 'make clean' doesn't use the index at all, unless I'm fundamentally > mistaken - it walks the tree of port makefiles according to the contents > of *_DEPENDS > Ah right, I was mistaken. Thanks for the correction. > Kris > > ---- > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe > -- Microsoft: Where do you want to go today? Linux: Where do you want to go tomorrow? BSD: Are you guys coming, or what? -Poster at LinuxWorld 2000 ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 17:49:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server1.huntsvilleal.com (www.huntsvilleal.com [207.13.224.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83E937BD35 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 17:49:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@hiwaay.net) Received: from barricuda.bsd.nws.net (kris.huntsvilleal.com [207.13.224.46]) by server1.huntsvilleal.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA22041; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 20:31:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by barricuda.bsd.nws.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA46181; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 19:49:15 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kris@hiwaay.net) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 19:49:15 -0600 (CST) From: Kris Kirby To: Brian Somers Cc: "Sameer R. Manek" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail (PPP) In-Reply-To: <200003030028.AAA03305@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Brian Somers wrote: > > NAT. But CCP isn't running. > > > > PPP ON barricuda> show ccp > > deflink: CCP [Stopped] > > > > Defaults: FSM retry = 3s, max 5 Config REQs, 5 Term REQs > > deflate windows: incoming = 0, outgoing = 15 > > DEFLATE: enabled & accepted > > PREDICTOR1: enabled & accepted > > DEFLATE24: disabled & denied > > PPP ON barricuda> > > Strange. NAT shouldn't use much CPU... It'd be interesting to see > if the load average decreases when the link is idle. System load is negligible at idle. My load floats up under rather severe conditions, i.e.: About six (that I would know of) constant streams of data coming in, plus occasional packets (ICQ). It's no biggie, just raises an eyebrow. Idle link, timer set to 300 s, right before it hung up: 1.02, with rc5des running. ---- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR | TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. | ------------------------------------------------------- "God gave them the ability to reproduce... ... Science gave us the hope they won't." -KBK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 18:44:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (ftp.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B99537B52E for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:44:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zeus@tetronsoftware.com) Received: from tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (tetron02.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.106]) by tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA15702 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 20:44:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from zeus@tetronsoftware.com) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 20:44:58 -0600 (CST) From: Gene Harris To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Password Length Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just noticed today that my passwords are only being checked to a length of 8 characters. (By this I mean that I only have to type in the first 8 characters of the password. YIKES!) I have minpasswdlen set to 8 in my login.conf file for the user profile. I have studied the man chpass, man passwd and man login.conf pages. Is there a setting someplace that extends the length of the password? This was very unsettling to discover! I am using FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE, cvsup'ed January 26th. Many Thanks, *==============================================* *Gene Harris http://www.tetronsoftware.com* * Home of TeamAccess version control for * * Microsoft Office 97 and 2000 * * FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE - The Power to Serve * * Redhat 6.1 Secure Web Server * *==============================================* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 20: 9:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from astral.elitenet.com.br (astral.elitenet.com.br [200.223.11.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A4C37B5A0 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 20:09:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from duwde@duwde.com.br) Received: from duwde.com.br (dl112216.ssa.zaz.com.br [200.223.112.216]) by astral.elitenet.com.br (8.9.3p/8.9.3/ASTRAL-4.2c) with ESMTP id XAA23804; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 23:20:44 -0300 (EST) Message-ID: <38BF10BF.86D1EA83@duwde.com.br> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 22:09:19 -0300 From: Fabio Dias X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gene Harris , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Password Length References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gene Harris wrote: Hi Gene. > I just noticed today that my passwords are only being checked to a length of 8 > characters. (By this I mean that I only have to type in the first 8 > characters of the password. YIKES!) I have minpasswdlen set to 8 in my > login.conf file for the user profile. I have studied the man chpass, man > passwd and man login.conf pages. Is there a setting someplace that extends > the length of the password? This was very unsettling to discover! Aren't you running crypt+DES ? I bet you are :) Passwords (without crypt+DES) can be up to_PASSWORD_LEN - 1 (NULL) == 127 Indeed, when running crypt+DES, If I'm not wrong, what you've described is true. -- /* Fabio Dias / Duwde HP & PGP avaible at http://www.duwde.com.br PGP key (2048 Bits / KeyID 0x6A53EC31) FP: BB35 50F2 7F83 655D 6B11 F0A2 F8E2 FF3D */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 2 23:49:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (smtp7.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.128.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F96837BE32 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 23:49:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mvh@ix.netcom.com) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (lai-ca3d-83.ix.netcom.com [209.110.243.83]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA00284 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 02:48:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1FF40A540C; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 23:48:08 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Harding To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <38BF10BF.86D1EA83@duwde.com.br> (message from Fabio Dias on Thu, 02 Mar 2000 22:09:19 -0300) Subject: Re: Password Length References: <38BF10BF.86D1EA83@duwde.com.br> Message-Id: <20000303074808.1FF40A540C@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 23:48:08 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Which is a pet peeve of mine - if you upgrade your security, you get far worse password security. Is there a way to jam the passwords into MD5 mode? If not, couldn't a sysctl var or something in /etc/make.conf do this? - Mike H. Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 22:09:19 -0300 From: Fabio Dias X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-RULES: lists Gene Harris wrote: Hi Gene. > I just noticed today that my passwords are only being checked to a length of 8 > characters. (By this I mean that I only have to type in the first 8 > characters of the password. YIKES!) I have minpasswdlen set to 8 in my > login.conf file for the user profile. I have studied the man chpass, man > passwd and man login.conf pages. Is there a setting someplace that extends > the length of the password? This was very unsettling to discover! Aren't you running crypt+DES ? I bet you are :) Passwords (without crypt+DES) can be up to_PASSWORD_LEN - 1 (NULL) == 127 Indeed, when running crypt+DES, If I'm not wrong, what you've described is true. -- /* Fabio Dias / Duwde HP & PGP avaible at http://www.duwde.com.br PGP key (2048 Bits / KeyID 0x6A53EC31) FP: BB35 50F2 7F83 655D 6B11 F0A2 F8E2 FF3D */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 3 0:18:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.dgweb.com (alpha.dgweb.com [207.218.73.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF43037B601 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:18:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kuzak@kuzak.net) Received: from kuzak (killer@sac1-23.dgweb.com [207.218.73.23]) by alpha.dgweb.com (8.10.0.Beta12/8.10.0Beta12) with SMTP id e238Jjp32583 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:19:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200003030819.e238Jjp32583@alpha.dgweb.com> X-Sender: kuzak@mail.kuzak.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 00:08:40 -0800 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Kuzak Subject: Re: Password Length In-Reply-To: <20000303074808.1FF40A540C@netcom1.netcom.com> References: <38BF10BF.86D1EA83@duwde.com.br> <38BF10BF.86D1EA83@duwde.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well don't forget that a password of length 8 that is case sensitive and allows for special characters offers something like ~73! permutations which is damn near close to number of atoms estimated to be in the universe.. It should be more than adiquate to simply require your users to not use all one case or just alphanumeric passwords.. just make them include at least one special character.. -Aric ( My One Cent ) > Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 22:09:19 -0300 > From: Fabio Dias > X-Accept-Language: en > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Precedence: bulk > X-RULES: lists > > Gene Harris wrote: > > Hi Gene. > > I just noticed today that my passwords are only being checked to a length of 8 > > characters. (By this I mean that I only have to type in the first 8 > > characters of the password. YIKES!) I have minpasswdlen set to 8 in my > > login.conf file for the user profile. I have studied the man chpass, man > > passwd and man login.conf pages. Is there a setting someplace that extends > > the length of the password? This was very unsettling to discover! > Aren't you running crypt+DES ? I bet you are :) > Passwords (without crypt+DES) can be up to_PASSWORD_LEN - 1 (NULL) == > 127 > Indeed, when running crypt+DES, If I'm not wrong, what you've described > is true. > > -- > /* > Fabio Dias / Duwde > HP & PGP avaible at http://www.duwde.com.br > PGP key (2048 Bits / KeyID 0x6A53EC31) > FP: BB35 50F2 7F83 655D 6B11 F0A2 F8E2 FF3D > */ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 3 1:58:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCCE037C07D; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 01:58:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA10738; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 02:33:16 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 02:33:16 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Brian Somers Cc: Tony Finch , nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: codecrusader and ntp Message-ID: <20000303023316.A10067@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200003020752.HAA00430@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <200003020752.HAA00430@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org>; from Brian Somers on Thu, Mar 02, 2000 at 07:52:32AM +0000 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 02, 2000 at 07:52:32AM +0000, Brian Somers wrote: > > Nik Clayton wrote: > > > > > >Tip: When you install a port/package, and want to know what commands it > > > has, try > > > > > > grep bin /var/db/pkg//+CONTENT > > > > not `pkg_info -L package_name | grep bin`? > > Hmm, I guess nik is exhibiting his ``hacker'' status in the worst > possible way :*I Indeed. I'm still amazed at the number of commands in FreeBSD that I never knew existed. Take rs(1), for example. Would never have found it had I not mistyped something and had tcsh suggest it as a misspelling. Someone needs to do a "Command of the month" section on DaemonNews, in which an enterprising hacker takes an obscure command (tsort(1) is another one) and shows all sorts of useful uses it can be put to. N -- If you want to imagine the future, imagine a tennis shoe stamping on a penguin's face forever. --- with apologies to George Orwell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 3 5:11:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (ftp.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8BCC37B552 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 05:11:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zeus@tetronsoftware.com) Received: from tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (tetron02.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.106]) by tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18299; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 07:11:40 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from zeus@tetronsoftware.com) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 07:11:40 -0600 (CST) From: Gene Harris To: Kuzak Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Password Length In-Reply-To: <200003030819.e238Jjp32583@alpha.dgweb.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Kuzak wrote: > Well don't forget that a password of length 8 that > is case sensitive and allows for special characters > offers something like ~73! permutations which is > damn near close to number of atoms estimated to > be in the universe.. It should be more than adiquate > to simply require your users to not use all one case > or just alphanumeric passwords.. just make them > include at least one special character.. > -Aric > ( My One Cent ) > And, just how do I _make_ them include one special character? I am just now learning about login in classes and I haven't seen anything about enforcing a policy for password complexity? Is there some sort of system setting? Gene [remainder snipped] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 3 5:30: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D915D37B566 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 05:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA14758; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 07:29:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-90.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.90) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma014755; Fri Mar 3 07:29:27 2000 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20000303072732.00989b20@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 07:27:32 -0600 To: Jamie Gritton , Khetan Gajjar From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: recent vinum changes Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 01:19 PM 3/2/00 -0700, Jamie Gritton wrote: >Khetan Gajjar writes: > >> How are you reviving a vinum mirror ? I haven't yet had the >> need to do so, but I'm dreading doing it now that you mention >> this. > > Generally, a "vinum start" on the previously dead plex. It will usually >revive OK if you do this in single-user, but any reasonable level of >filesystem activity panics the system, and when it comes up, there's nothing >left of /usr (on either half of the mirror). What was the previous state of the dead plex and it's subdisks? I've had subdisks go "stale" or even "faulty" by themsleves or by design (ala testing), but the plex is only "down" (if that's what you mean by "dead"). Only problems I've had when reviving were due to pilot error, so must have stepped right on the bug that was fixed in the recent commits. >> What happens if one of the disks dies ? Does the machine >> panic ? > > No, it does OK as long as you never try to revive. That's our current >situation. From your first message the loss of data on the "up" plex when reviving isn't reassuring, but I've blown up plexes various ways and recovered most every time. Note the "most" covers the more exotic and crazy ideas. I'd be some of the commits will filter back in a week or 6 (the last MFC). Greg must have been busy. 8-) My last -stable build was 2/4 and changed up to current shortly after that. Anyone else still have the undying vinum process? Should have been fixed on the 2/14 commit, but it recent creeped back into current (at least for me). At least I can no longer force it to panic, but will be testing the recent current commits again. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 3 6:34:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gold.killercomputing.com (ATHM-216-216-77-156.home.net [216.216.77.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7873937C0ED for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 06:34:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pulcher@killercomputing.com) Received: from popgun (dhcp48.killercomputing.com [199.233.181.48]) by gold.killercomputing.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA20500; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:34:51 GMT (envelope-from pulcher@killercomputing.com) Message-ID: <005e01bf851e$85a8ab80$30b5e9c7@killercomputing.com> From: "Harold Pulcher - Killer Computing" To: "Gene Harris" , "Kuzak" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Password Length Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:41:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG there are a number of replacements for the 'passwd' command out there that will 'make' your users use a reasonably secure password. Check out http://www.utexas.edu/cc/unix/software/npasswd/ Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Harris To: Kuzak Cc: Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 7:11 AM Subject: Re: Password Length > On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Kuzak wrote: > > > Well don't forget that a password of length 8 that > > is case sensitive and allows for special characters > > offers something like ~73! permutations which is > > damn near close to number of atoms estimated to > > be in the universe.. It should be more than adiquate > > to simply require your users to not use all one case > > or just alphanumeric passwords.. just make them > > include at least one special character.. > > -Aric > > ( My One Cent ) > > > > And, just how do I _make_ them include one special character? I am just now > learning about login in classes and I haven't seen anything about enforcing a > policy for password complexity? Is there some sort of system setting? > > Gene > > [remainder snipped] > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 3 7:10: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0FF737B613 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 07:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39450E8AC; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:09:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA25931; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:09:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14527.54723.140062.247669@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:09:55 -0500 (EST) To: Gene Harris Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Password Length In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "GH" == Gene Harris writes: GH> I just noticed today that my passwords are only being checked to a GH> length of 8 characters. (By this I mean that I only have to type GH> in the first 8 In the man page for BSD/OS they mention a boolean capability "widepasswords" that you can set in login.conf. Does FreeBSD have such a capability? This uses the new extended crypt() functionality and allows for up to 128 character passwords. The man page for FreeBSD's crypt implies that the extended crypt() functionality is there. A quick scan of the FreeBSD sources for login(1) and passwd(1) don't seem to indicate that they use wide passwords. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 3 7:49:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.veriohosting.com (gatekeeper.veriohosting.com [192.41.0.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6CA37B625 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 07:49:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gritton@iserver.com) Received: by gatekeeper.veriohosting.com; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:49:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from unknown(192.168.1.110) by gatekeeper.veriohosting.com via smap (V3.1.1) id xma010028; Fri, 3 Mar 00 08:49:02 -0700 Received: by guppy.orem.iserver.com; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:48:34 -0700 (MST) To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: jeff-ml@mountin.net Subject: Re: recent vinum changes References: <3.0.3.32.20000303072732.00989b20@207.227.119.2> From: Jamie Gritton Date: 03 Mar 2000 08:48:34 -0700 In-Reply-To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin"'s message of "Fri, 03 Mar 2000 07:27:32 -0600" Message-ID: Lines: 26 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jeffrey J. Mountin" writes: >> Generally, a "vinum start" on the previously dead plex... > What was the previous state of the dead plex and it's subdisks? The plex is faulty and the subdisk is stale. > I've had subdisks go "stale" or even "faulty" by themsleves or by design > (ala testing), but the plex is only "down" (if that's what you mean by > "dead"). These are generally bona fide hardware errors, i.e. a disk that won't spin up. > From your first message the loss of data on the "up" plex when reviving > isn't reassuring, but I've blown up plexes various ways and recovered most > every time. Note the "most" covers the more exotic and crazy ideas. The chance of recovery seems to decrease with usage of the system. An idle but non-single-user system weill usually make it through the recover OK, but then panic on some variety of filesystem errors, and be repairable with "only" a few dozen lost+found files. Generally, things are so bad, fsck can't find a superblock on the "good" half of the mirror. - Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 3 7:51:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from speedy.rtfm.com (speedy.rtfm.com [216.98.239.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF57737C0B8 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 07:51:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ekr@rtfm.com) Received: from romeo.rtfm.com (romeo.rtfm.com [216.98.239.227]) by speedy.rtfm.com (8.9.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id HAA25468; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 07:52:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (ekr@localhost) by romeo.rtfm.com (8.9.3/8.6.4) id HAA36521; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 07:53:15 -0800 (PST) To: Kuzak Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Password Length References: <38BF10BF.86D1EA83@duwde.com.br> <38BF10BF.86D1EA83@duwde.com.br> <200003030819.e238Jjp32583@alpha.dgweb.com> From: EKR Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 03 Mar 2000 07:53:15 -0800 In-Reply-To: Kuzak's message of "Fri, 03 Mar 2000 00:08:40 -0800" Message-ID: Lines: 38 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kuzak writes: > Well don't forget that a password of length 8 that > is case sensitive and allows for special characters > offers something like ~73! permutations which is > damn near close to number of atoms estimated to > be in the universe.. It should be more than adiquate > to simply require your users to not use all one case > or just alphanumeric passwords.. just make them > include at least one special character.. This isn't even close to correct. Passwords are ASCII, so the total number of 8-byte 8^8=2^64. It should be obvious by inspection that 8^8 << 73! Incidentally, the number of atoms in a glass of water is on the order of 10^25 >> 8^8. Moreover, Unix crypt() only uses the low order 7 bits. This is required because DES (the underlying algorithm) takes a 56 bit key. It's possible (though time consuming) to exhaustively search the space of all passwords. It's known to be possible to exhaustively search DES. DES keys have been exhaustively searched in distributed software systems in 41 days. crypt() iterates the algorithm 25 times to add some security, but this places an upper bound of 2000 days on the process. DES keys have been cracked in hardware in 22 hours. However, crypt() contains some countermeasures designed to make hardware implementations less efficient. However, I'd expect that a hardware crypt() cracker could be built that would do the job in < 3 months. Moreover, all this assumes that the keys are really selected from a 56-bit space. It's almost impossible to make them do so, which is why Crack is so effective. -Ekr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 3 8: 1:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8966837B613 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:01:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (john [10.0.0.2]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00700; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:01:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200003031601.LAA00700@server.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 11:01:06 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: Brad Knowles Subject: RE: Crash on boot when disks are present? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 02-Mar-00 Brad Knowles wrote: > Folks, > > This one is so weird that I don't have the foggiest clue how I'd > go about searching the archives for answers. Searching for "crash on > boot" netted me way more hits than I care to try to count. > > > I've got a FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE system (cvsup'ed a couple of weeks > ago) that I've been doing some tests with and it has been working > pretty well up until now (after I got the issues of which PCI slots I > can plug SCSI controllers into ;-). > > Anyway, the vendor field engineer for our disk drive array (one > of those expensive mainframe-style refrigerator-size models) came in > this morning to try to fix some problems we're having with it not > recognizing all the RAM that is installed, and among other things he > did a firmware upgrade of the controllers, and while we were at it we > also deleted all the existing RAID groups and created some new ones, > with new logical units associated, etc.... > > I've gone in and made sure that the BIOS has been changed (yet > once again) to try to boot off the internal Quantum Atlas-IV drive > that is attached to the AIC-7890 controller, because the external > drive array does not have the OS installed, etc.... Unfortunately, > when I try to boot with the drive array turned on, it crashes hard > (during the bootloader phase, I think), displaying the following: > > F1 DOS > F2 FreeBSD > F5 Drive 1 > > Default: F2 > > - > int=00000000 err=00000000 efl=00030083 eip=00000004 > eax=000004e3 ebx=0000097f ecx=0000dc00 edx=000034be > esi=0000dc00 edi=00000004 ebp=00000000 esp=000004ce > cs=c800 ds=c800 es=9e7d fs=0000 gs=0000 ss=9e7b > cs:eip=d4 00 00 00 00 00 00 00-00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 > ss:esp=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00-00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 That's very odd indeed. Well, let see here. 0xd4 0x00 is AAM with a base of 0, which results in a divide by zero. That explains the fault at least. However, it looks like you have trashed memory. Recently, I fixed a bug in the loader for emulating one of the BIOS calls used by some RAID adapters. Could you try using the boot floppies from the latest 3.x-snap on releng3.freebsd.org instead? Thanks. > I hope I got this right -- I don't have a serial console attached > to the machine, so I had to type this in manually. > > > Anyway, when I turn off the external drive array, it boots fine. > I know I need to expand /var to accomodate /var/crash, but I don't > think that this would actually generate a crash dump, for which this > would be useful. No, this is the loader itself faulting, BSD itself isn't actually up and running yet, so we can't write to /var/crash at this point. > Other than having the guy come back out to "upgrade" the > controller firmware version back to what it was, does anyone have any > other advice that they can give me as to what I might be able to do > to debug the problem? > > > Thanks! -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 3 9: 0: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.dgweb.com (alpha.dgweb.com [207.218.73.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE75C37B65F for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:59:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kuzak@kuzak.net) Received: from kuzak (killer@sac1-43.dgweb.com [207.218.73.43]) by alpha.dgweb.com (8.10.0.Beta12/8.10.0Beta12) with SMTP id e23H0Wp41410; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:00:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200003031700.e23H0Wp41410@alpha.dgweb.com> X-Sender: kuzak@mail.kuzak.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 08:49:16 -0800 To: EKR From: Kuzak Subject: Re: Password Length Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <38BF10BF.86D1EA83@duwde.com.br> <38BF10BF.86D1EA83@duwde.com.br> <200003030819.e238Jjp32583@alpha.dgweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Passwords are ASCII, so the total number of 8-byte 8^8=2^64. > >It should be obvious by inspection that 8^8 << 73! >Incidentally, the number of atoms in a glass of water >is on the order of 10^25 >> 8^8. > I see it more like this... 64^8... Assume 64 possible characters to choose from... for the first char in the passwd you have 64 choices, for the second char in the passwd you have 64 choices, and so on 8 times.. So by the multiplication principal you will have a total of 64*64*64*64*64*64*64*64 or 64^8 possible permutations which is >> than 8^8 Though much less than 73! -Aric To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 3 9: 5:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from speedy.rtfm.com (speedy.rtfm.com [216.98.239.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2110337B635 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:05:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ekr@romeo.rtfm.com) Received: from romeo.rtfm.com (romeo.rtfm.com [216.98.239.227]) by speedy.rtfm.com (8.9.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id JAA26344; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:06:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from romeo.rtfm.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by romeo.rtfm.com (8.9.3/8.6.4) with ESMTP id JAA37304; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:07:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200003031707.JAA37304@romeo.rtfm.com> To: Kuzak Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Password Length In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 03 Mar 2000 08:49:16 PST." <200003031700.e23H0Wp41410@alpha.dgweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 09:07:19 -0800 From: Eric Rescorla Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >Passwords are ASCII, so the total number of 8-byte 8^8=2^64. > > > >It should be obvious by inspection that 8^8 << 73! > >Incidentally, the number of atoms in a glass of water > >is on the order of 10^25 >> 8^8. > I see it more like this... > > 64^8... Assume 64 possible characters to choose from... > > for the first char in the passwd you have 64 choices, > for the second char in the passwd you have 64 choices, > and so on 8 times.. > > So by the multiplication principal you will have a total > of 64*64*64*64*64*64*64*64 or 64^8 possible permutations > which is >> than 8^8 Though much less than 73! Correct. I was totally on crack when I wrote 8^8. What I meant was (2^8)^8 == 256^8 == 2^64. Nevertheless, 256 > 10^3, thus 256^8 < (10^3)^8 Since (10^3^8) = 10^24, 10^25 >> 2^64. I stand by the rest of my message. -Ekr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 3 10:18:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.croc.ru (ns.croc.ru [194.190.88.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5249937B65D for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:18:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dron@croc.ru) Received: by ns.croc.ru with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 20:42:17 +0300 Message-ID: <71F168743DC4D311949A00508B44C7AE09F42A@MAIL_PROG> From: dron@croc.ru To: FreeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 19:38:27 +0300 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG óÐÁÓÉÂÏ ûÁÉÎ áÎÄÒÅÊ ëòïë ÉÎËÏÒÐÏÒÅÊÔÅÄ 974-2282 dron@croc.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 3 10:28:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF27937B65D; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:28:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB6B5122F3; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 19:28:37 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200003031601.LAA00700@server.baldwin.cx> References: <200003031601.LAA00700@server.baldwin.cx> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 19:28:01 +0100 To: John Baldwin From: Brad Knowles Subject: RE: Crash on boot when disks are present? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:01 AM -0500 2000/3/3, John Baldwin wrote: > Recently, I fixed a bug in the loader > for emulating one of the BIOS calls used by some RAID adapters. > Could you try using the boot floppies from the latest 3.x-snap > on releng3.freebsd.org instead? Thanks. If this were to work, how would I get an updated copy of booteasy written to the MBR of the hard disk? This is not currently a production machine, so I can afford to do things like cvsup, then make buildworld, make installworld, mergemaster, etc.... If I'm going to give this a try, I want to make sure that I know what the process is for updating the MBR on the hard drive. > No, this is the loader itself faulting, BSD itself isn't actually up > and running yet, so we can't write to /var/crash at this point. That's what I figured. Thanks for the confirmation. -- These are my opinions and should not be taken as official Skynet policy ========================================================================= Brad Knowles, Sys. Arch., Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of this message. If you are using a Microsoft program to view this message, be forewarned that I am not responsible for any harm you may encounter as a result. See for details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 3 11: 1:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F36A37B685 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:01:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (john [10.0.0.2]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00895; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 14:00:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200003031900.OAA00895@server.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 14:00:56 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: Brad Knowles Subject: RE: Crash on boot when disks are present? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 03-Mar-00 Brad Knowles wrote: > At 11:01 AM -0500 2000/3/3, John Baldwin wrote: > >> Recently, I fixed a bug in the loader >> for emulating one of the BIOS calls used by some RAID adapters. >> Could you try using the boot floppies from the latest 3.x-snap >> on releng3.freebsd.org instead? Thanks. > > If this were to work, how would I get an updated copy of booteasy > written to the MBR of the hard disk? This is not currently a > production machine, so I can afford to do things like cvsup, then > make buildworld, make installworld, mergemaster, etc.... cvsup and make world to the latest stable. Then use disklabel to rewrite the boot blocks on the drive. # disklabel -B da0 (or wd0 or whatever you have) > If I'm going to give this a try, I want to make sure that I know > what the process is for updating the MBR on the hard drive. Ok, no problem. >> No, this is the loader itself faulting, BSD itself isn't actually up >> and running yet, so we can't write to /var/crash at this point. > > That's what I figured. Thanks for the confirmation. No problem. HTH. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 3 11:10:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6851C37B689; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:10:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D4912204; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 20:10:20 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200003031900.OAA00895@server.baldwin.cx> References: <200003031900.OAA00895@server.baldwin.cx> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 20:08:51 +0100 To: John Baldwin From: Brad Knowles Subject: RE: Crash on boot when disks are present? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 2:00 PM -0500 2000/3/3, John Baldwin wrote: > cvsup and make world to the latest stable. Then use disklabel to > rewrite the boot blocks on the drive. > > # disklabel -B da0 (or wd0 or whatever you have) Cool. This I can do. Just gotta re-enable those cron jobs.... > No problem. HTH. Yup, I think it does. Thanks! -- These are my opinions and should not be taken as official Skynet policy ========================================================================= Brad Knowles, Sys. Arch., Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of this message. If you are using a Microsoft program to view this message, be forewarned that I am not responsible for any harm you may encounter as a result. See for details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 3 11:56: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF7137B69C; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:55:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA27881; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 13:55:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 13:55:45 -0600 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Nik Clayton Cc: Brian Somers , Tony Finch , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: codecrusader and ntp Message-ID: <20000303135545.B22217@futuresouth.com> References: <200003020752.HAA00430@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> <20000303023316.A10067@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <20000303023316.A10067@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Mar 03, 2000 at 02:33:16AM +0000, a little birdie told me that Nik Clayton remarked > > Indeed. I'm still amazed at the number of commands in FreeBSD that I > never knew existed. This is why every so often I take a little jaunt through ls's of {/usr}/{s}bin and look through manpages. Found some fun stuff. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Unix Systems Administrator | fullermd@futuresouth.com Specializing in FreeBSD | http://www.over-yonder.net/ "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 3 13:37:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id E9A5F37B6BD; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 13:37:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A9D2E815E; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 13:37:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@hub.freebsd.org) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 13:37:29 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: Vivek Khera Cc: Gene Harris , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Password Length In-Reply-To: <14527.54723.140062.247669@onceler.kcilink.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: > In the man page for BSD/OS they mention a boolean capability > "widepasswords" that you can set in login.conf. Does FreeBSD have > such a capability? Use MD5 passwords instead of DES and all will be fine. See the archives if you have any questions..it's all come up before. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 3 15:31:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web1.allunix.com (17.93.ng.rsvl.dsl.quiknet.com [207.231.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ABCD37B672; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 15:31:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Jack@cpucity.com) Received: from windoze (windoze.allunix.com [192.168.3.3]) by web1.allunix.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA24549; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 15:34:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Jack@cpucity.com) Message-Id: <200003032334.PAA24549@web1.allunix.com> From: Jack@cpucity.com To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 15:32:31 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Converting from NT Cc: stable@freebsd.org X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anyone migrated a large group of users from NT to FreeBSD without having to re-enter all of the users manually? Please email me as I do not subscribe to the list. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 3 16:36:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from azazel.zer0.org (azazel.zer0.org [209.133.53.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA7937B6E8; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 16:36:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gsutter@zer0.org) Received: (from gsutter@localhost) by azazel.zer0.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA48546; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 16:35:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gsutter@zer0.org) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 16:35:42 -0800 From: Gregory Sutter To: Nik Clayton Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: codecrusader and ntp Message-ID: <20000303163542.B47591@azazel.zer0.org> References: <200003020752.HAA00430@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> <20000303023316.A10067@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000303023316.A10067@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.ORG on Fri, Mar 03, 2000 at 02:33:16AM +0000 Organization: Zer0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2000-03-03 02:33 +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > > Indeed. I'm still amazed at the number of commands in FreeBSD that I > never knew existed. > > Take rs(1), for example. Would never have found it had I not mistyped > something and had tcsh suggest it as a misspelling. > > Someone needs to do a "Command of the month" section on DaemonNews, in > which an enterprising hacker takes an obscure command (tsort(1) is another > one) and shows all sorts of useful uses it can be put to. I hear a volunteer... :) Greg -- Gregory S. Sutter "I think not," said Descartes... mailto:gsutter@zer0.org and promptly disappeared. http://www.zer0.org/~gsutter/ PGP DSS public key 0x40AE3052 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 3 23:10:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.alpha.net.au (mail2.alpha.net.au [203.41.44.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C6C37B767; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 23:10:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dannyh@idx.com.au) Received: from freebsd.freebsd.org (surry-pool-184.alpha.net.au [203.41.44.184] (may be forged)) by mail.alpha.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA13521; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 18:10:58 +1100 From: Danny To: Jack@cpucity.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Converting from NT Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 18:11:00 +1100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200003032334.PAA24549@web1.allunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00030518124201.00377@freebsd.freebsd.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If you are refering to converting from a NT PDC to a Samba FreeBSd soilution I would suggest you purchase "Samba in 24 hours" which explains how you can do the above with the help of perl. Otheriwxse if it is regarding something else give me more details about the role of the NT box and I'll help you. :Loojubg forward to your feedabck. danny dannyh@idx.com.au On Sat, 04 Mar 2000, Jack@cpucity.com wrote: > Has anyone migrated a large group of users from NT to FreeBSD > without having to re-enter all of the users manually? > > > Please email me as I do not subscribe to the list. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 4 7:42:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ziplink.net (relay-0.ziplink.net [206.15.168.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F9C37B7FE; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 07:42:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mi@i.virtual-estates.com) Received: from i.virtual-estates.com (bay1-382.nyc.ziplink.net [209.206.17.129]) by ziplink.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA06005; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 10:42:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mi@localhost) by i.virtual-estates.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00632; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 10:44:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mi) From: Mikhail Teterin Message-Id: <200003041544.KAA00632@i.virtual-estates.com> Subject: tip of the day (Re: codecrusader and ntp) In-Reply-To: <20000303163542.B47591@azazel.zer0.org> from Gregory Sutter at "Mar 3, 2000 04:35:42 pm" To: Gregory Sutter Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 10:43:26 -0500 (EST) Cc: Nik Clayton , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL60 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Someone needs to do a "Command of the month" section on DaemonNews, > > in which an enterprising hacker takes an obscure command (tsort(1) > > is another one) and shows all sorts of useful uses it can be put to. > > I hear a volunteer... :) I thought of a similar idea a'la "tip of the day". It would seem, the existing fortune(6) may be used for it -- just add another database. It can even be a different database depending on the user's shell: fortune 20% ${SHELL}-tips 60% unix-tips 20% funny -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 4 7:43:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web1.allunix.com (17.93.ng.rsvl.dsl.quiknet.com [207.231.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C21737B81A for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 07:43:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Jack@cpucity.com) Received: from windoze (windoze.allunix.com [192.168.3.3]) by web1.allunix.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA27881; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 07:46:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Jack@cpucity.com) Message-Id: <200003041546.HAA27881@web1.allunix.com> From: Jack@cpucity.com To: Danny Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 07:44:28 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Converting from NT Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <00030518124201.00377@freebsd.freebsd.org> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What I am talking about is migrating a thousand users from NT- RAS to somthing like radius or equiv. Thank You, Jack Strong On 5 Mar 00, at 18:11, Danny wrote: > If you are refering to converting from a NT PDC to a Samba FreeBSd soilution > I would suggest you purchase "Samba in 24 hours" which explains how you can do > the above with the help of perl. > > Otheriwxse if it is regarding something else give me more details about the > role of the NT box and I'll help you. > > :Loojubg forward to your > feedabck. > > danny > > dannyh@idx.com.au > > > On Sat, 04 Mar 2000, Jack@cpucity.com wrote: > > Has anyone migrated a large group of users from NT to FreeBSD > > without having to re-enter all of the users manually? > > > > > > Please email me as I do not subscribe to the list. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > -- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 4 8:48: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from darcy.gwis.com (darcy.gwis.com [209.57.72.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854EB37B852 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 08:47:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ddr@gwis.com) Received: from localhost (ddr@localhost) by darcy.gwis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA65618 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 11:47:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 11:47:46 -0500 (EST) From: GWIS - Dan Roberts To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: NO_BIND make problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG /usr/src/usr.sbin/Makefile includes nslookup both in the default list of targets and within the .if !defined(NO_BIND) conditional block.. this causes the make to fail when NO_BIND is defined, because libbind.a was never built. Was nslookup meant to be left out, or was libbind meant to be built? Not sure what the appropriate fix is, but hope someone will address it. I've just removed nslookup for now. -- Dan Roberts, Systems Engineer Voice 800.656.GWIS GWIS Internet Solutions Fax 330.656.5440 Please contact support@gwis.com for all technical support issues To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 4 9: 8:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.twave.net (twave.net [206.100.228.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 87C4837B806 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 09:08:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brameld@twave.net) Received: from [12.21.241.43] by mail.twave.net (NTMail 3.03.0018/1.abwg) with ESMTP id za937559 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 12:08:39 -0500 Received: from Bozo_3.BozoLand.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Bozo_3.BozoLand.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA00355; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 12:08:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from brameld@twave.net) From: Walter Brameld To: Mikhail Teterin , Gregory Sutter Subject: Re: tip of the day (Re: codecrusader and ntp) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 12:06:29 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: Nik Clayton , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200003041544.KAA00632@i.virtual-estates.com> In-Reply-To: <200003041544.KAA00632@i.virtual-estates.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00030412082702.00315@Bozo_3.BozoLand.domain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tip Of The Day: Don't post "tip of the day" on freebsd-questions, or someone will jump up and down on your prostrate and quivering body while shouting "Put this kind of crap on FreeBSD-chat, dammit!". 8-) -- Walter Brameld in·tel·lec·tu·al n. Someone who has been educated past his/her level of intelligence. Join the Army, meet interesting people, kill them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 4 15:46:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F68D37B8ED for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 15:46:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA92675; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 15:46:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <38C1A063.D33A2574@gorean.org> Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 15:46:43 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT-0302 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brad Knowles Cc: Matt Heckaman , FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Error: "Maximum file descriptors exceeded"... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brad Knowles wrote: > > At 5:34 PM -0800 2000/2/29, Doug Barton wrote: > > > I used to run 2.2.x machines with maxusers at 512. That number on > > 3.2-Release will not be a problem. > > I have since gotten confirmation from Joe Greco that MAXUSERS > > 128 is a very real problem on 3.2-RELEASE. I figure Joe knows a heck > of a lot more about FreeBSD than I am ever likely to know, and he > certainly knows a lot more about Diablo (the application I was having > the problems with) than I ever will. No doubt Joe's the man. I know that my application (an IRC server) ran reliably on 2.2.8 and 3.2 with MAXUSERS at 512, but your application may be different. I would love to know what the problems are though. If they still exist in -current they should be addressed. Doug -- "Welcome to the desert of the real." - Laurence Fishburne as Morpheus, "The Matrix" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 4 15:59:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from supra.rotterdam.luna.net (supra.rotterdam.luna.net [194.151.24.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA74B37B8D4 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 15:59:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ruben@luna.nl) Received: (from ruben@localhost) by supra.rotterdam.luna.net (•8.8.8/tcpwrp+ismx/8.8.8/chk+tcpwrpr) id AAA25357 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:59:15 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:59:15 +0100 From: Ruben van Staveren To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Password Length Message-ID: <20000305005914.A28436@supra.rotterdam.luna.net> References: <14527.54723.140062.247669@onceler.kcilink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: ; from Kris Kennaway on Fri, Mar 03, 2000 at 01:37:29PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Mar 03, 2000 at 01:37:29PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: > > > In the man page for BSD/OS they mention a boolean capability > > "widepasswords" that you can set in login.conf. Does FreeBSD have > > such a capability? I think it will in the near future :*) I was at the FreeBSD special interest group meeting which Jordan attended, and he told us Walnut Creek and BSDI are merging. as a result both the FreeBSD and BSD/OS codebases will be merged. not directly though :) Anyway, a official announcement will be made soon I think... -- L U N A In t e r n e t & A u t o m a t i s e r i n g Waar vindt u ons: Ons postadres: Telefoon en fax: Puntegaalstraat 109 Postbus 28013 Tel : 010-750.2000 3024 EB ROTTERDAM 3003 KA ROTTERDAM Fax : 010-750.2002 Web: http://www.luna.nl Email: luna@luna.nl Helpdesk: 010-750.2020 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 4 17: 7:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from malasada.lava.net (malasada.lava.net [199.222.42.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF9C37B921 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 17:07:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cliftonr@lava.net) Received: from localhost (2123 bytes) by malasada.lava.net via sendmail with P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 15:07:23 -1000 (HST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #3 built 1999-Dec-7) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 15:07:23 -1000 From: Clifton Royston To: Doug Barton Cc: Brad Knowles , Matt Heckaman , FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Error: "Maximum file descriptors exceeded"... Message-ID: <20000304150723.D25818@lava.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Feb 29, 2000 at 05:34:44PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: > On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Brad Knowles wrote: > > At 10:51 AM -0500 2000/2/29, Matt Heckaman wrote: > > > > > To be quite honest with you, I'm not very sure where this idea came from > > > that MAXUSERS > 128 is bad, I've been running configs like that for quite > > > a while (I guess ( 3.1+)) and never had a bit of trouble, minus the time > > > I had a hard drive fail, but that doesn't really count =) > > > > This particular machine is in production and running 3.2-RELEASE, > > so MAXUSERS > 128 might still be a problem. > > I used to run 2.2.x machines with maxusers at 512. That number on > 3.2-Release will not be a problem. Would the info on how tuning this knob *really* works in BSD/OS be too off-topic? (There it's not really a good/bad or works/doesn't case, but more an issue of "> X is non-optimal for these reasons.") It's definitely different code, but as they are derived from the same code base, there may be some relevance to FreeBSD. I've been meaning to dig into the FreeBSD kernel headers since this came up and see just how closely it applies, and could do so if there's general interest, since nobody seems to have posted an authoritative answer. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- LavaNet Systems Architect -- cliftonr@lava.net The named which can be named is not the Eternal named. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 4 18:13:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.alpha.net.au (mail2.alpha.net.au [203.41.44.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1722F37B92B for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 18:13:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dannyh@idx.com.au) Received: from freebsd.freebsd.org (surry-pool-170.alpha.net.au [203.41.44.170] (may be forged)) by mail.alpha.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA29625; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 13:13:51 +1100 From: Danny To: Jack@cpucity.com Subject: Re: Converting from NT Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:15:07 +1100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200003041546.HAA27881@web1.allunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00030613153901.00323@freebsd.freebsd.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Then try out Merit AAA Radius. I On Sun, 05 Mar 2000, Jack@cpucity.com wrote: > What I am talking about is migrating a thousand users from NT- > RAS to somthing like radius or equiv. > > > > Thank You, > > Jack Strong > > > > > > On 5 Mar 00, at 18:11, Danny wrote: > > > If you are refering to converting from a NT PDC to a Samba FreeBSd soilution > > I would suggest you purchase "Samba in 24 hours" which explains how you can do > > the above with the help of perl. > > > > Otheriwxse if it is regarding something else give me more details about the > > role of the NT box and I'll help you. > > > > :Loojubg forward to your > > feedabck. > > > > danny > > > > dannyh@idx.com.au > > > > > > On Sat, 04 Mar 2000, Jack@cpucity.com wrote: > > > Has anyone migrated a large group of users from NT to FreeBSD > > > without having to re-enter all of the users manually? > > > > > > > > > Please email me as I do not subscribe to the list. > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > -- > > > > -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 4 20:15:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from farpoint.tear.com (adsl-63-194-88-247.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.194.88.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF7B537B958 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 20:15:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@computer.org) Received: from computer.org (farpoint.tear.com [172.16.0.2] (may be forged)) by farpoint.tear.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA29031 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 20:15:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@computer.org) Message-ID: <38C1DED3.607C7E89@computer.org> Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 20:13:08 -0800 From: Marc Mosko Organization: Forte Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message