From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 16 3:53:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lesbains.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (lesbains.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.12.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E626437B733 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 03:53:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de) Received: from informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (brabantio [134.2.12.25]) by lesbains.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB7743B for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 12:53:38 +0200 (DFT) Received: (from sperber@localhost) by informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (AIX4.3/UCB 8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22482; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 12:53:37 +0200 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: isa0: unexpected tag 14 From: sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]) Date: 16 Apr 2000 12:53:36 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) XEmacs/21.2 (Kastor & Polydeukes) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just brought my last 2.2-STABLE machine over to FreeBSD 4. Now, booting produces the message isa0: unexpected tag 14 and, about half the time, locks up the machine. The only thing on the ISA bus is a SB AWE64. Can someone shed light on this? -- Cheers =8-} Mike Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 16 7:39:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hse-toronto-ppp99006.sympatico.ca (HSE-Toronto-ppp99086.sympatico.ca [216.209.72.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DD8B37B94E for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 07:39:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rbt@zort.on.ca) Received: (qmail 7795 invoked by uid 0); 16 Apr 2000 14:39:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.zort.on.ca) (10.0.0.185) by hse-toronto-ppp99086.sympatico.ca with SMTP; 16 Apr 2000 14:39:23 -0000 Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 10:41:33 -0400 From: Rod Taylor To: Jean-Francois Dockes Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BurnCD Message-ID: <20000416104133.B3353@peon.zort.on.ca> Reply-To: Rod Taylor Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: Balsa 0.6.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The drive worked before with the v3 burning stuff. (The 3 or 4 utilities that did the job in a script). But this was all userland, no kernel stuff. However, I did the upgrade to v4 shortly after moving, so perhaps the drive got knocked around during that time. On Sun, 16 Apr 2000 02:53:30 Jean-Francois Dockes wrote: > Rod Taylor writes: > > Problems fixating with BurnCD. dmesg below... > > > > ... > > acd0: READ_TOC - ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=24 ascq=00 error=04 > > This would happen for READ_TOC on a blank disk. May be normal, > depending on what burncd is doing > > > acd0: WRITE_BIG - MEDIUM ERROR asc=0c ascq=09 error=04 > > Medium error normally means just this: bad spot on the disk. Some > drives sometimes mistakenly report medium error for what is actually a > loss of streaming. Also, it is impossible to discriminate a bad drive > from a bad disk in most cases (other than statistically: retry with a > disk from another batch, etc...) > > The following are just uninteresting consequences: > > > acd0: CLOSE_TRACK/SESSION - ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=24 ascq=00 error=04 > > burncd tries to finalize, but the drive is in no mood to do this after > the previous error. > > All the rest signals internal inconsistencies in burncd and acd0 > states: I think you just have to reboot... > > > acd0: WRITE_BIG - MEDIUM ERROR asc=0c ascq=09 error=04 > > acd0: CLOSE_TRACK/SESSION - ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=24 ascq=00 error=04 > > pid 810 (burncd), uid 0: exited on signal 3 (core dumped) > > acd0: sequence error (disk already open) > > acd0: sequence error (disk already open) > > ... > > If you've tried this several times on different (several brands or > different batches) disks, the most probable cause is a bad drive, but > these problems are extremely hard to diagnose. At musicmaker, we'd > just replace the drive after a few problems of this kind. > > > Jean-Francois Dockes - musicmaker.com > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 16 9:44:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from linux.intcon.net (linux.intcon.net [206.230.48.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A644337BA33 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 09:44:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@portal.megahack.com) Received: from portal.megahack.com (portal.megahack.com [206.230.54.106]) by linux.intcon.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06621; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 11:44:02 -0500 Received: (from steve@localhost) by portal.megahack.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA27567; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 11:44:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from steve) From: Steven Farmer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14585.60880.852966.430390@catbert.megahack.com> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 11:44:00 -0500 (CDT) To: sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]) Subject: isa0: unexpected tag 14 In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 9) "Canyonlands" XEmacs Lucid Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Michael" == Michael Sperber [Mr Preprocessor] writes: Michael> Just brought my last 2.2-STABLE machine over to FreeBSD Michael> 4. Michael> Now, booting produces the message Michael> isa0: unexpected tag 14 Michael> and, about half the time, locks up the machine. Michael> The only thing on the ISA bus is a SB AWE64. Michael> Can someone shed light on this? Well, I don't know how helpful this is, but no one else has jumped in with the answer, so I'll pass this along in hopes that it might be useful. I too have an AWE64 and at boot time I see: isa0: too many dependent configs (8) isa0: unexpected small tag 14 but my system never locks up. Sound is working well enough for me. My kernel config has: device pcm device sbc device joy If I do a boot -v, the "too many dependent configs" message appears to be associated with device CTL0045, and the "unexpected small tag 14" line seems to be associated with device CTL0022. Running /usr/sbin/pnpinfo shows me that CTL0045 is the Creative SB AWE64 PnP, and CTL0022 is the WaveTable device on the same card. I also see "*** Small Vendor Tag Detected" when pnpinfo scans the WaveTable device. I gather that the WaveTable device isn't supported for FBSD 4.0. Even though you may have only the SB isa card, there are other things on the isa bus, and I'm guessing your hang may be due to a resource conflict. Maybe a boot -v would help you narrow it down. Good luck, Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 16 10: 5:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from area51.v-wave.com (area51.v-wave.com [24.108.26.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A2B1937B975 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 10:05:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flatline@area51.v-wave.com) Received: (qmail 2845 invoked by uid 1001); 16 Apr 2000 17:05:22 -0000 Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 11:05:22 -0600 From: Chris Wasser To: Steven Farmer Cc: "Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: isa0: unexpected tag 14 Message-ID: <20000416110522.A2788@area51.v-wave.com> References: <14585.60880.852966.430390@catbert.megahack.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <14585.60880.852966.430390@catbert.megahack.com>; from steve@megahack.com on Sun, Apr 16, 2000 at 11:44:00AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Apr 16, 2000 at 11:44:00AM -0500, Steven Farmer wrote: > Well, I don't know how helpful this is, but no one else has jumped in > with the answer, so I'll pass this along in hopes that it might be > useful. I too have an AWE64 and at boot time I see: > > isa0: too many dependent configs (8) > isa0: unexpected small tag 14 I have a AWE64 ISA in my box too, I also see these messages but the system boots and runs fine. As for Wavetable support, nope, not yet. I have the same kernel conf options you listed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 16 11:39:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F7C337B95F; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 11:38:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01AC1137F68; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 14:36:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA09103; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 14:36:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14586.2094.557007.707785@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 14:36:30 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-emulators@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000. X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Linux emulation is, at this point, quite mature, IMHO. There are a few cracks in the installtion, though. Recently, I was trying to install WordPerfect Office 2000, and there were a few failure modes that gave me trouble. The first was that we had /usr/compat/linux/bin/rpm in addition to /usr/local/bin/rpm. It's difficult and non-obvious how to launch the installers which may use shells such that they find the right rpm. The FreeBSD-compiled rpm doesn't know about it's own installation without arguments, so the WordPerfect installer would fail because rpm didn't know /bin/sh is installed. It makes me wonder if we shouldn't add jail-like semantics to Linux emulator... Anyways... has anyone else try installing WordPerfect Office 2000? If I install it on our debian systems around the office, it's not configured correctly to run on our rpm-based system (or so it seems). I've got paradox to run, and I've got Railroad Tycoon II to run (included with WP Office), but wordperfect itself won't run. Wine crashes on an IOCTL (posted yesterday). Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 16 11:46:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alanis.uebs.itacs.to (N707P022.dipool.highway.telekom.at [212.183.98.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2170037B7E8 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 11:46:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philipp@alanis.uebs.itacs.to) Received: (from philipp@localhost) by alanis.uebs.itacs.to (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA50143 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 20:44:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from philipp) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 20:44:31 +0200 From: Philipp Huber To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4.0 release to 4.0 stable update Message-ID: <20000416204431.A50124@alanis.mini.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi ! i updated my 3.2-release to 4.0-release, and today i cvsup'ed my source tree to 4.0 stable. i read src/UPDATING, checked the things i had to do and started compiling the whole thing with make buildworld. after a few minutes there's an error somewhere in the gnu subdirectory: cc1 gets signal 11. it's definetely not a memory problem, i changed it and was the same again any suggestions what could have gone wrong ? thanks -- Philipp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 16 11:59:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5236F37B8BC for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 11:59:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boshea@ricochet.net) Received: from beastie.localdomain ([24.19.158.41]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <20000416185953.MAJN12856.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@beastie.localdomain>; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 11:59:53 -0700 Received: (from brian@localhost) by beastie.localdomain (8.9.3/8.8.7) id MAA02156; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 12:09:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 12:09:12 -0700 From: "Brian O'Shea" To: Philipp Huber Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.0 release to 4.0 stable update Message-ID: <20000416120912.D337@beastie.localdomain> Reply-To: boshea@ricochet.net Mail-Followup-To: Philipp Huber , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000416204431.A50124@alanis.mini.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <20000416204431.A50124@alanis.mini.net>; from Philipp Huber on Sun, Apr 16, 2000 at 08:44:31PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Philipp, So just to clarify, you switched out all of the memory with known good memory. Then (after a "make clean") you recompiled, and the build broke in the same place with the same error? -brian On Sun, Apr 16, 2000 at 08:44:31PM +0200, Philipp Huber wrote: > hi ! > > i updated my 3.2-release to 4.0-release, and today i cvsup'ed my source > tree to 4.0 stable. i read src/UPDATING, checked the things i had to do > and started compiling the whole thing with make buildworld. after a few > minutes there's an error somewhere in the gnu subdirectory: cc1 gets > signal 11. > it's definetely not a memory problem, i changed it and was the same again > > any suggestions what could have gone wrong ? > > thanks > > -- > Philipp > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Brian O'Shea boshea@ricochet.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 16 12:23: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phb.avic.dk (phb.avic.dk [194.234.178.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A37C37BA05 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 12:22:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jens@fallesen.dk) Received: from fallesen.dk (32-dslam0.suoe.worldonline.dk [213.237.11.32]) by phb.avic.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3/PHB/11[AntiSpam]) with ESMTP id VAA17002 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 21:22:46 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <38FA1311.DEF2484B@fallesen.dk> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 21:22:57 +0200 From: Jens Fallesen Organization: AVIC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: da, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BurnCD References: <20000416104133.B3353@peon.zort.on.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rod Taylor wrote: > However, I did the upgrade to v4 shortly after moving, so perhaps the > drive got knocked around during that time. I wouldn't go for that explanation--the exact same thing happened on my machine after going to 4.x and I haven't moved my computer an inch. Besides, other people have reported the same problem. If I boot my computer into Windows I have no problem burning CDs either... -- Jens Fallesen O- Hedegaardsvej 41 st th, 2300 Copenhagen S, Denmark Phone: (+45) 32 86 18 99 * Fax: (+45) 32 86 17 99 CCIE #5470 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 16 12:27:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alanis.uebs.itacs.to (N707P022.dipool.highway.telekom.at [212.183.98.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6133D37B518 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 12:27:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philipp@alanis.uebs.itacs.to) Received: (from philipp@localhost) by alanis.uebs.itacs.to (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA50342; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 21:25:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from philipp) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 21:25:15 +0200 From: Philipp Huber To: "Brian O'Shea" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.0 release to 4.0 stable update Message-ID: <20000416212515.A50325@alanis.mini.net> References: <20000416204431.A50124@alanis.mini.net> <20000416120912.D337@beastie.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000416120912.D337@beastie.localdomain>; from boshea@ricochet.net on Sun, Apr 16, 2000 at 12:09:12PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Apr 16, 2000 at 12:09:12PM -0700, Brian O'Shea wrote: > Hi Philipp, hi brian ! > > So just to clarify, you switched out all of the memory with known good > memory. Then (after a "make clean") you recompiled, and the build broke > in the same place with the same error? > > -brian yes, exactly. i think compiling without the gnu-tools is not a good idea as well :( Philipp > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 16 13:51: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lyra.ci.uc.pt (lyra.ci.uc.pt [193.136.200.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8DAB37B8F8 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 13:49:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pedro@qui.uc.pt) Received: from godfather.mafia.net (pm1-2.uc.pt [193.137.211.130]) by lyra.ci.uc.pt (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA25502; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 20:48:43 GMT Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20000416021300.A3353@peon.zort.on.ca> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 21:48:47 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: pedro@qui.uc.pt Organization: Webvolution Networks From: Pedro Almeida To: Rod Taylor Subject: RE: BurnCD Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have the same problem, running 4.0 STABLE from last friday! this is the first try to get some CD's burned after my 3->4 upgrade on a "ATAPI only" machine. my home box have upgraded well and still working as before! thanks FreeBSD people. ]:) are this related to the wdc-->ata change? On 16-Apr-2000 Rod Taylor wrote: > Problems fixating with BurnCD. dmesg below... > > bash-2.03# burncd -f /dev/acd0c -s 4 -e -t data 4.0-install.iso fixate > .. > fixating CD, please wait.. > burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCCLOSEDISK): Input/output error > ... ========================================================== Pedro Almeida (aka GoDfAtHeR) E-Mail: Pedro Almeida Sent on 16-Apr-2000 at 21:41:57 from godfather.???.net Fortune: If you want to know what god thinks of money, just look at the people he gave it to. -- Dorthy Parker PGP key available upon request ========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 16 13:51:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.mail.frost.net (orac.frost.net [212.240.253.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BFB537BADF for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 13:51:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matthewf@orac.frost.net) Received: from matthewf by relay.mail.frost.net with local (Exim 3.14 #1) id 12gw0h-0006wZ-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 21:51:15 +0100 Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 21:51:15 +0100 From: Matthew Frost To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Lucent Wavelan IEEE on 4.0-STABLE Message-ID: <20000416215115.A26654@orac.frost.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm having trouble with a Lucent Wavelan Silver IEEE card on 4.0-STABLE. Something very odd is going on or I've screwed up somewhere. This is a Dell Latitude laptop, relevent dmesg bits: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Sun Apr 16 21:35:40 BST 2000 chip2: irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci0 pcic0: at port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 irq 10 on isa0 pcic0: management irq 11 pccard0: on pcic0 pccard1: on pcic0 Kernel config: # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support device card device pcic0 at isa? irq 10 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 device pcic1 at isa? irq 11 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable device wi at the top of my pccard.conf I have: io 0x240-0x360 irq 5 memory 0xd0000 96k Now if I insert the card: pccard: card inserted, slot 0 pccard: card removed, slot 0 pccard: card inserted, slot 0 and this time we get this: wi0: at port 0x240-0x27f irq 5 slot 0 on pccard0 wi0: Ethernet address: 91:95:13:c0:00:dd wi0: failed to allocate 1594 bytes on NIC wi0: tx buffer allocation failed wi0: failed to allocate 1594 bytes on NIC wi0: mgmt. buffer allocation failed Notice the MAC address for the card is bogus - it should start 00 06 1D which is the odd thing. It's a repeatable cycle: Insert. Hang. Insert. Bogus MAC address and failure. Nothing else in the system is using IRQ 5 (tried IRQ 13 to the same effect as I've read all the warnings about not sharing IRQs). An identical card does the same (both have been upgraded to support WEP via Windows from the latest stuff off the Wavelan site and are quite happy talking to each other). Anything else I can try... Once the card is in I can pccardc dumpcis it (if this info helps)... Configuration data for card in slot 0 Tuple #1, code = 0x1 (Common memory descriptor), length = 3 000: 00 00 ff Common memory device information: Device number 1, type No device, WPS = OFF Speed = No speed, Memory block size = 512b, 1 units Tuple #2, code = 0x17 (Attribute memory descriptor), length = 4 000: 67 5a 08 ff Attribute memory device information: Device number 1, type SRAM, WPS = OFF Speed = 5.0 x 100 ns, Memory block size = 512b, 2 units Tuple #3, code = 0x1d (Other conditions for attribute memory), length = 5 000: 01 67 5a 08 ff (MWAIT) Tuple #4, code = 0x15 (Version 1 info), length = 80 000: 05 00 4c 75 63 65 6e 74 20 54 65 63 68 6e 6f 6c 010: 6f 67 69 65 73 00 57 61 76 65 4c 41 4e 2f 49 45 020: 45 45 00 56 65 72 73 69 6f 6e 20 30 31 2e 30 31 030: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 040: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ff Version = 5.0, Manuf = [Lucent Technologies],card vers = [WaveLAN/IEEE] Addit. info = [Version 01.01],[],[],[],[],[],[],[],[],[],[],[],[],[],[], [],[],[],[],[],[],[],[],[],[],[],[],[],[],[],[] Tuple #5, code = 0x20 (Manufacturer ID), length = 4 000: 56 01 02 00 PCMCIA ID = 0x156, OEM ID = 0x2 Tuple #6, code = 0x21 (Functional ID), length = 2 000: 06 00 Network/LAN adapter Tuple #7, code = 0x22 (Functional EXT), length = 2 000: 01 07 Modem interface capabilities: Tuple #8, code = 0x22 (Functional EXT), length = 5 000: 02 40 42 0f 00 Data modem services available: Tuple #9, code = 0x22 (Functional EXT), length = 5 000: 02 80 84 1e 00 Data modem services available: Tuple #10, code = 0x22 (Functional EXT), length = 2 000: 03 07 Tuple #11, code = 0x22 (Functional EXT), length = 8 000: 04 06 00 60 1d 04 ae 14 Voice services available: Tuple #12, code = 0x22 (Functional EXT), length = 2 000: 05 01 Modem interface capabilities: Tuple #13, code = 0x1a (Configuration map), length = 7 000: 03 01 e0 03 00 00 01 Reg len = 4, config register addr = 0x3e0, last config = 0x1 Registers: X------- Tuple #14, code = 0x1b (Configuration entry), length = 15 000: c1 01 19 76 c5 4b d5 19 36 36 05 46 7f ff ff Config index = 0x1(default) Interface byte = 0x1 (I/O) Vcc pwr: Minimum operating supply voltage: 4 x 1V, ext = 0x4b Maximum operating supply voltage: 5 x 1V, ext = 0x19 Max current average over 1 second: 3 x 100mA Max current average over 10 ms: 3 x 100mA Power down supply current: 1 x 10mA Card decodes 6 address lines, limited 8/16 Bit I/O IRQ modes: Pulse IRQ level = 6 Tuple #15, code = 0xff (Terminator), length = 0 1 slots found -- Matthew Frost http://www.frost.org/ email: matthew@frost.org "My feet, my arms and my ears. And, your feet." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 16 16: 9:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A337437B7E8 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:09:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@billy-club.village.org) Received: from billy-club.village.org (billy-club.village.org [10.0.0.3]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA48785; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 17:09:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@billy-club.village.org) Received: from billy-club.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by billy-club.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id RAA22789; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 17:10:36 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200004162310.RAA22789@billy-club.village.org> To: Matthew Frost Subject: Re: Lucent Wavelan IEEE on 4.0-STABLE Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Apr 2000 21:51:15 BST." <20000416215115.A26654@orac.frost.net> References: <20000416215115.A26654@orac.frost.net> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 17:10:35 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000416215115.A26654@orac.frost.net> Matthew Frost writes: : I'm having trouble with a Lucent Wavelan Silver IEEE card on : 4.0-STABLE. Something very odd is going on or I've screwed up : somewhere. It would appear that you have an interrupt conflict problem. Is IRQ 5 really free? As in no physical hardware is using it? I see later you said that you don't think this is the case, but if you can verify that for sure, that would be great. The other possible problem is that I/O range 0x240-0x27f (oink!) has some other hardware in it, but which isn't probed by default. I can't think of anything off the top of my head that lives there. Or that memory 0xd0000 isn't really available (this is much less likely since it can seem to find it). Do you have another pccard that you can try to insert and see if that works? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 16 18:27:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4B0337B8B8 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 18:27:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <115208>; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:26:16 +1000 Content-return: prohibited From: Peter Jeremy Subject: 3-STABLE hangs To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <00Apr17.112616est.115208@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:26:15 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a Dell OptiPlex GXi (Pentium-133 with 96MB RAM) running 3-STABLE (from last night) which is used to simulate a WAN (using dummynet). Under normal operation, it hangs about every 2 weeks, but I can make it happen in about 15 minutes by loading up the box. When it hangs, it does a good job - no response to the network, keyboard or even NMI. These crashes are becoming quite embarrassing. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to locate and fix the problem? Following are dmesg output, as well as the ipfw and natd files (addresses have been changed). Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE #8: Mon Apr 17 17:31:12 EST 2000 root@:/usr/src/sys/compile/wansim Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium/P54C (132.95-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping = 12 Features=0x1bf real memory = 100663296 (98304K bytes) avail memory = 94908416 (92684K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02b7000. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.0 ide_pci0: rev 0x00 on pci0.7.1 fxp0: rev 0x08 int a irq 11 on pci0.13.0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:20:c4:9f fxp1: rev 0x08 int a irq 10 on pci0.14.0 fxp1: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:20:8f:ee fxp2: rev 0x08 int a irq 9 on pci0.15.0 fxp2: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:20:bd:ab vga0: rev 0x54 int a irq 11 on pci0.16.0 xl0: <3Com 3c905-TX Fast Etherlink XL> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci0.17.0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:c0:4f:ba:32:2b xl0: autoneg complete, link status good (half-duplex, 100Mbps) Probing for PnP devices: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <12 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0xb0ffb0ff on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , LBA, DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd0: 2014MB (4124736 sectors), 1023 cyls, 64 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa ppc0: Generic chipset (ECP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 plip0: on ppbus 0 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 irq 12 on isa psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, default to accept, logging limited to 100 packets/entry by default DUMMYNET initialized (000212) /etc/rc.firewall.local: #!/bin/sh # # dummynet configuration. This file is sourced from rc.network # Single pass thru firewall code /sbin/sysctl -w net.inet.ip.fw.one_pass=1 # Create pipes to simulate WAN /sbin/ipfw pipe 1 config bw 2Mbit/sec delay 7ms queue 256KB /sbin/ipfw pipe 2 config bw 2Mbit/sec delay 7ms queue 256KB # Explicitly allow traffic we've already delayed /sbin/ipfw add 10 allow ip from 10.123.126.144/28 to 192.168.0.0/16 out /sbin/ipfw add 20 allow ip from 10.123.126.160/28 to 192.168.0.0/16 out /sbin/ipfw add 30 allow ip from 192.168.0.0/16 to 10.123.126.144/28 in /sbin/ipfw add 40 allow ip from 192.168.0.0/16 to 10.123.126.160/28 in /sbin/ipfw add 50 allow ip from 192.168.0.0/16 to 192.168.0.0/16 # Bypass pipes for ssh traffic /sbin/ipfw add 80 skipto 3000 tcp from any ssh to any /sbin/ipfw add 81 skipto 3000 tcp from any to any ssh # Use pipe1 for traffic from local to remote /sbin/ipfw add 110 pipe 1 ip from 10.123.126.144/28 to 192.168.0.0/16 in /sbin/ipfw add 120 pipe 1 ip from 10.123.126.160/28 to 192.168.0.0/16 in # Use pipe 2 for packets going out xl0 /sbin/ipfw add 210 pipe 2 ip from 192.168.0.0/16 to 10.123.126.144/28 out /sbin/ipfw add 220 pipe 2 ip from 192.168.0.0/16 to 10.123.126.160/28 out # Grab packets for myself /sbin/ipfw add 1001 allow ip from 10.123.126.146 to any out /sbin/ipfw add 1002 allow ip from 10.123.126.162 to any out /sbin/ipfw add 1003 allow ip from 192.168.126.146 to any out /sbin/ipfw add 1004 allow ip from 192.168.126.162 to any out /sbin/ipfw add 1101 allow ip from any to 10.123.126.146 in /sbin/ipfw add 1102 allow ip from any to 10.123.126.162 in /sbin/ipfw add 1103 allow ip from any to 192.168.126.146 in /sbin/ipfw add 1104 allow ip from any to 192.168.126.162 in # Start NAT for any other traffic /sbin/ipfw add 5000 divert 32000 all from any to any via xl0 /sbin/ipfw add 5100 divert 32000 all from any to any via fxp0 # Create proxy ARP entries for vlan158/174 aliases to the remote hosts echo "Creating proxy arp entries" /usr/sbin/arp -d -a /usr/sbin/arp -s aald04-aal0 $ether_fxp0 pub /usr/sbin/arp -s aald06-aal0 $ether_fxp0 pub /usr/sbin/arp -s aald07-aal0 $ether_fxp0 pub /usr/sbin/arp -s aald09-aal0 $ether_fxp0 pub /usr/sbin/arp -s aald04-aal1 $ether_xl0 pub /usr/sbin/arp -s aald06-aal1 $ether_xl0 pub /usr/sbin/arp -s aald07-aal1 $ether_xl0 pub /usr/sbin/arp -s aald09-aal1 $ether_xl0 pub natd configuration file: log no deny_incoming no use_sockets no same_ports yes verbose no port 32000 interface fxp0 unregistered_only yes redirect_address 192.168.126.163 10.123.126.163 redirect_address 192.168.126.165 10.123.126.165 redirect_address 192.168.126.166 10.123.126.166 redirect_address 192.168.126.168 10.123.126.168 redirect_address 192.168.126.147 10.123.126.147 redirect_address 192.168.126.149 10.123.126.149 redirect_address 192.168.126.150 10.123.126.150 redirect_address 192.168.126.152 10.123.126.152 Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 16 19:28:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from weeble.dyndns.org (ubppp234-180.dialin.buffalo.edu [128.205.234.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C19E37B917; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 19:28:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjm2@earthling.net) Received: from shithead (shithead.weeble.dyndns.org [10.0.0.2]) by weeble.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA70595; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 22:28:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cjm2@earthling.net) From: "C J Michaels" To: "Southwell" , "Mike Smith" Cc: Subject: RE: IEEE 1394 support Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 22:28:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01BFA7F2.EA656120" Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <00d701bfa59c$b95b1aa0$82e346c6@demon.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BFA7F2.EA656120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My understanding of IEEE 1394 is that it is patented by Apple and anyone who wishes to use it has to pay a royalty to Apple. Maybe I misunderstood and this only applies to hardware manufacturers. -- Chris -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Southwell Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 7:04 PM To: Mike Smith Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: IEEE 1394 support Hi I posted a query relating to Firewire support and Mike came back with the awful news that he felt the field was so laced with patents that it was not worth trying.. I am quite interested in seeing if a way round the problems can be found - does anyone have any pointers. What I felt would be useful would be to try to support either the Texas Instruments IEEE 1394 OCHI compliant controller or some of the other cards that are available. (I have an on board TI chip). Does anyone have a link to some information that can identify the patent problems Mike referred to? Initially I would like to be able to get a "simple" capture program that would generate either AVI Type 1 or Type 2 files from a camcorder. Are the problems as insurmountable as Mike seems to feel they are? David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Smith" To: "Southwell" Cc: Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 8:08 AM Subject: Re: IEEE 1394 support > > Is any one working on firewire (IEEE 1394) support for camcorders? > > No; the field is laced with patents which prevent any really useful work > being done. 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Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07DFA37B8B8 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 19:31:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <115208>; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:31:30 +1000 Content-return: prohibited From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: Install 4.0-STABLE on an old Laptop In-reply-to: <200004160257.UAA30258@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Sun, Apr 16, 2000 at 01:01:48PM +1000 To: Warner Losh Cc: Gunnar Flygt , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <00Apr17.123130est.115208@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <20000415090120.A75820@sr.se> <200004160257.UAA30258@harmony.village.org> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:31:28 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2000-Apr-16 13:01:48 +1000, Warner Losh wrote: >In message <20000415090120.A75820@sr.se> Gunnar Flygt writes: >: Has anyone tried the minimum requirements for 4.0? Sure, but will it run >: on an old Toshiba 486 with 24 MB of RAM? > >24MB of RAM shoud be plenty to run a fairly thin, but still usable >system. I've got a 486 with 20MB RAM running 4-CURRENT from a couple of months ago (it takes about 30 hours for a buildworld and my wife complains about the noise in our bedroom). I haven't noticed any real problems with the lack of RAM. My biggest gotcha is forgetting to add swap before linking a kernel (with debugging) in single user. (It compiles, but the linker runs out of RAM). Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 16 20: 0:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537B037B8FB for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 20:00:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <115209>; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:01:04 +1000 Content-return: prohibited From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: 4.0 release to 4.0 stable update In-reply-to: <20000416204431.A50124@alanis.mini.net>; from uebs@gmx.at on Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 04:47:14AM +1000 To: Philipp Huber Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <00Apr17.130104est.115209@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <20000416204431.A50124@alanis.mini.net> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:01:03 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2000-Apr-17 04:47:14 +1000, Philipp Huber wrote: >i updated my 3.2-release to 4.0-release, and today i cvsup'ed my >source tree to 4.0 stable. i read src/UPDATING, checked the things i >had to do and started compiling the whole thing with make >buildworld. after a few minutes there's an error somewhere in the gnu >subdirectory: cc1 gets signal 11. it's definetely not a memory >problem, i changed it and was the same again [Can you please wrap your lines]. I presume your system was fully converted to 4.0-RELEASE (kernel and userland) before you started a build to 4-STABLE. When you repeat the buildworld, does the error occur in exactly the same place? If so, can you provide the last 20-30 lines of the buildworld output. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 16 20:36:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lark.capnet.state.tx.us (lark.capnet.state.tx.us [204.65.39.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD5037B9E8 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 20:35:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Bryan.Bradsby@capnet.state.tx.us) Received: from localhost (bbradsby@localhost) by lark.capnet.state.tx.us (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e3H3BhS05226; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 22:11:43 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 22:11:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Bryan Bradsby To: Frank Mayhar Cc: Doug Barton , "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound Blaster Live! 4.0 (Re: 4.1 date?) In-Reply-To: <200004142034.NAA37648@realtime.exit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Do _you_ have ECC memory? Nope. -bryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 16 22:45: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6409A37B969 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 22:45:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:vr6uBk55i7LGEqknZ74Ob8eQSPyVR9pD@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7Wpl2) with ESMTP id OAA04643; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:44:21 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id OAA26290; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:50:54 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200004170550.OAA26290@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: "Sean O'Connell" , "Robert Watson" Cc: FreeBSD stable , yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: middle mouse button emulation broken In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 14 Apr 2000 16:48:59 -0400." <20000414164859.G18075@stat.Duke.EDU> References: <20000414164859.G18075@stat.Duke.EDU> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:50:53 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I'd like to report a "Me too" on Robert Watson's report of >middle mouse emulation breakage under X. I just updated a >laptop (touchpad with 2 button mouse) running 4.0-RELEASE >to 4.0-STABLE using sources cvsup'd this morning. [...] # Sorry for not replying earlier. I have been out of town for a week. There was a couple of fixes in the -CURRENT branch. They have not been MFCed to -STABLE yet. Please apply the following patch to /usr/src/usr.sbin/moused/moused.c. Also, try reducing the timeout value for the 3 button emulation. The default value is 200 msec after the patch (it was 500 msec before the patch). The value determines the duration during which you have to keep pressing the button before moused reports that the button is being pressed. You may feel comfortable with the timeout value of 100 msec or less. Kazu Index: moused.c =================================================================== RCS file: /src/CVS/src/usr.sbin/moused/moused.c,v retrieving revision 1.42 retrieving revision 1.44 diff -u -r1.42 -r1.44 --- moused.c 2000/03/31 12:35:33 1.42 +++ moused.c 2000/04/11 11:09:39 1.44 @@ -76,7 +76,7 @@ #define MAX_CLICKTHRESHOLD 2000 /* 2 seconds */ #define MAX_BUTTON2TIMEOUT 2000 /* 2 seconds */ #define DFLT_CLICKTHRESHOLD 500 /* 0.5 second */ -#define DFLT_BUTTON2TIMEOUT 500 /* 0.5 second */ +#define DFLT_BUTTON2TIMEOUT 200 /* 0.2 second */ #define TRUE 1 #define FALSE 0 @@ -431,27 +431,28 @@ int s[A_TIMEOUT + 1]; int buttons; int mask; + int timeout; } states[10] = { /* S0 */ - { { S0, S2, S1, S3, S0 }, 0, ~(MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN | MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN) }, + { { S0, S2, S1, S3, S0 }, 0, ~(MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN | MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN), FALSE }, /* S1 */ - { { S4, S2, S1, S3, S5 }, 0, ~MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN }, + { { S4, S2, S1, S3, S5 }, 0, ~MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN, FALSE }, /* S2 */ - { { S8, S2, S1, S3, S6 }, 0, ~MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN }, + { { S8, S2, S1, S3, S6 }, 0, ~MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN, FALSE }, /* S3 */ - { { S0, S9, S9, S3, S3 }, MOUSE_BUTTON2DOWN, ~0 }, + { { S0, S9, S9, S3, S3 }, MOUSE_BUTTON2DOWN, ~0, FALSE }, /* S4 */ - { { S0, S2, S1, S3, S0 }, MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN, ~0 }, + { { S0, S2, S1, S3, S0 }, MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN, ~0, TRUE }, /* S5 */ - { { S0, S2, S5, S7, S5 }, MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN, ~0 }, + { { S0, S2, S5, S7, S5 }, MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN, ~0, FALSE }, /* S6 */ - { { S0, S6, S1, S7, S6 }, MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN, ~0 }, + { { S0, S6, S1, S7, S6 }, MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN, ~0, FALSE }, /* S7 */ - { { S0, S6, S5, S7, S7 }, MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN | MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN, ~0 }, + { { S0, S6, S5, S7, S7 }, MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN | MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN, ~0, FALSE }, /* S8 */ - { { S0, S2, S1, S3, S0 }, MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN, ~0 }, + { { S0, S2, S1, S3, S0 }, MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN, ~0, TRUE }, /* S9 */ - { { S0, S9, S9, S3, S9 }, 0, ~(MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN | MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN) }, + { { S0, S9, S9, S3, S9 }, 0, ~(MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN | MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN), FALSE }, }; static int mouse_button_state; static struct timeval mouse_button_state_tv; @@ -618,8 +619,6 @@ } rodent.zmap[0] = i; rodent.zmap[1] = i + 1; - mstate[i - 1] = &zstate[0]; - mstate[i] = &zstate[1]; debug("optind: %d, optarg: '%s'", optind, optarg); for (j = 1; j < 4; ++j) { if ((optind >= argc) || !isdigit(*argv[optind])) @@ -630,17 +629,10 @@ usage(); } rodent.zmap[j] = i; - mstate[i - 1] = &zstate[j]; ++optind; } - if ((rodent.zmap[2] != 0) && (rodent.zmap[3] == 0)) { + if ((rodent.zmap[2] != 0) && (rodent.zmap[3] == 0)) rodent.zmap[3] = rodent.zmap[2] + 1; - mstate[rodent.zmap[3] - 1] = &zstate[3]; - } - for (i = 0; i < 4; ++i) { - if (rodent.zmap[i] != 0) - rodent.zmap[i] = 1 << (rodent.zmap[i] - 1); - } } break; @@ -711,6 +703,17 @@ usage(); } + /* fix Z axis mapping */ + for (i = 0; i < 4; ++i) { + if (rodent.zmap[i] > 0) { + for (j = 0; j < MOUSE_MAXBUTTON; ++j) { + if (mstate[j] == &bstate[rodent.zmap[i] - 1]) + mstate[j] = &zstate[i]; + } + rodent.zmap[i] = 1 << (rodent.zmap[i] - 1); + } + } + /* the default port name */ switch(rodent.rtype) { @@ -2167,6 +2170,8 @@ struct timeval tv1; struct timeval tv2; + if (states[mouse_button_state].timeout) + return TRUE; gettimeofday(&tv1, NULL); tv2.tv_sec = rodent.button2timeout/1000; tv2.tv_usec = (rodent.button2timeout%1000)*1000; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 16 22:48:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tinker.exit.com (exit-gw.power.net [207.151.46.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12CAF37B637 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 22:48:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: from realtime.exit.com (realtime.exit.com [206.223.0.5]) by tinker.exit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA62747 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 22:48:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: (from frank@localhost) by realtime.exit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA00584 for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 22:48:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank) From: Frank Mayhar Message-Id: <200004170548.WAA00584@realtime.exit.com> Subject: Re: Sound Blaster Live! 4.0 (Re: 4.1 date?)y In-Reply-To: from Bryan Bradsby at "Apr 16, 2000 10:11:43 pm" To: Bryan Bradsby Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 22:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Frank Mayhar , Doug Barton , "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORGG Reply-To: frank@exit.com Organization: Exit Consulting X-Copyright0: Copyright 2000 Frank Mayhar. All Rights Reserved. X-Copyright1: Permission granted for electronic reproduction as Usenet News or email only. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bryan Bradsby wrote: > > Do _you_ have ECC memory? > Nope. So far, of the folks I've polled, the ones that have had success (with the SBLive driver) have _not_ had ECC memory. The one report of failure _was_ using ECC memory. Sounds like serious driver trouble to me, and like the folks that aren't having trouble may have weird failures in the future as their memory gets tromped. -- Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 16 23: 0: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop-c.netway.at (pop-c.netway.at [195.96.0.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F16A937B5CA for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 23:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rmike@jawa.at) Received: from pop-a.netway.at (pop-a.netway.at [195.96.10.226]) by pop-c.netway.at (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA27074 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 07:59:58 +0200 Received: from jawa.at (t1p221.at-316.netway.at [195.96.18.221]) by pop-a.netway.at (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e3H5xvI19679 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 07:59:57 +0200 Received: (from rmike@localhost) by jawa.at (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA00846 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 07:59:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rmike) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 07:59:52 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: mranner@netway.at Organization: JAWA Management & Software From: Michael Ranner To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: pppd (kppp) halts 4.0-RELEASE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG With 4.0-RELEASE I switched from userland ppp to pppd (kppp) because kppp fits nice in my KDE environment. But sometimes, if I try to disconnect the connection, kppp dies with an signal 6 and pppd stays up running. After a killall pppd or if I turn off my modem by power switch the Xserver goes down and xinit says: "xinit: unexpected signal 1". After this my 4.0-RELEASE system HALTS: it looks like a normal halt, no panic occurs. syslogd and others got a signal 15. The only strange error message I get is: Opener: error reading from socket: Connection reset by peer The system is going down, it waits for bufdaemon and asks to "press any key to reboot". last and messages show a reboot but nobody has entered halt, reboot or shutdown! I use my own kernel config with IPsec activated and INET6 removed. Unnecessary drivers are removed. The environment works fine under 3.4 --- snip --- /var/log/messages Apr 16 22:21:03 dwarf /kernel: pid 817 (kppp), uid 1000: exited on signal 6 Apr 16 22:21:45 dwarf su: rmike to root on /dev/ttyp0 Apr 16 22:21:54 dwarf pppd[819]: Connection terminated, connected for 52 minutes Apr 16 22:21:55 dwarf syslogd: exiting on signal 15 Apr 16 22:24:27 dwarf /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Apr 16 22:24:27 dwarf /kernel: Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 last output: reboot ~ Sun Apr 16 22:24 shutdown ~ Sun Apr 16 22:21 root ttyv2 Sun Apr 16 21:20 - shutdown (01:01) root ttyv1 Sun Apr 16 21:14 - shutdown (01:07) rmike ttyv0 Sun Apr 16 20:17 - shutdown (02:04) reboot ~ Sun Apr 16 20:16 --- snip --- Any idea? /\/\ichael Ranner - Michael Ranner mranner@jawa.at - mranner@bit-online.com - webmaster@mariazell.at ---------------------------------------------------------------------- JAWA Management und Software - http://www.jawa.at/ B.I.T. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 16 23:20:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wanadoo.fr (Raspail-22-128.abo.wanadoo.fr [164.138.34.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB4437BA53 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 23:20:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dockes@wanadoo.fr) Received: (from dockes@localhost) by hautmedoc.dockes.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id IAA25805; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:02:56 +0200 (MEST) From: Jean-Francois Dockes Message-ID: <14586.43280.638627.541595@hautmedoc.dockes.com> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:02:56 +0200 (MEST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Rod Taylor Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BurnCD In-Reply-To: <38FA1311.DEF2484B@fallesen.dk> References: <20000416104133.B3353@peon.zort.on.ca> <38FA1311.DEF2484B@fallesen.dk> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jens Fallesen writes: > Rod Taylor wrote: > > > However, I did the upgrade to v4 shortly after moving, so perhaps the > > drive got knocked around during that time. > > I wouldn't go for that explanation--the exact same thing happened on > my machine after going to 4.x and I haven't moved my computer an inch. > Besides, other people have reported the same problem. > > If I boot my computer into Windows I have no problem burning CDs > either... Well, if several persons see this happening after an upgrade, it obviously becomes a software problem and I made a fool of myself. To save the face, I'll just mention again that some drives do 'creative' error reporting and will report MEDIUM ERROR for what is really a loss of streaming, or another nondescript error, which could be caused by a driver problem. Obviously, I we follow my proposed cure (replace the drive) in such a situation, my company is going to become a great customer for our cdr drive vendor :-) J.F. Dockes. -- Jean-Francois Dockes dockes@musicmaker.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 16 23:42:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw1.mncp.net (Tavrida.marka.net.ua [195.248.175.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D7037B65B for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 23:42:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from korzh@mncp.net) Received: from mncp.net (ws1016.mncp.net [172.16.1.16]) by gw1.mncp.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e3H6fDI46228 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:41:14 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <38FAB299.297E367B@mncp.net> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:43:37 +0300 From: Vitaliy Korzhanyuk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 0:10:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from student-00cdr.williams.edu (student-00cdr.williams.edu [137.165.32.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9664637BA7A for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 00:10:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@student-00cdr.williams.edu) Received: by student-00cdr.williams.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 46789119; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 03:10:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 03:10:53 -0400 From: Chris Richards To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound Blaster Live! 4.0 (Re: 4.1 date?) Message-ID: <20000417031053.A30779@student-00cdr.williams.edu> References: <200004170548.WAA00584@realtime.exit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200004170548.WAA00584@realtime.exit.com>; from frank@exit.com on Sun, Apr 16, 2000 at 10:46:13PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Apr 16, 2000 at 10:46:13PM -0700, Frank Mayhar wrote: > Sounds like serious driver trouble to me, and like the folks that aren't > having trouble may have weird failures in the future as their memory gets > tromped. Here are some additional data points obtained while running the Linux emu10k1 driver. Because of that they may be of limited usefulness, but who knows... For one thing, the Linux driver would generate an NMI on module load, and then cease to do anything anomalous (Linux doesn't panic on unexpected NMIs). The fact that both drivers exhibit this NMI behavior, though, makes me think that either (1) their respective authors made the same programming error -- how does one generate NMIs from software, anyhow? -- or (2) there is something wrong with the SBLive hardware. There was also an interaction between the emu10k1 code and the the Linux APM driver. With both enabled, I would see an NMI generated precisely every 5 minutes. With just APM everything was fine, and with just the emu10k1 the situation was as described above. The only other person I knew to be observing this behavior was another fellow with a Dell Dimension XPS T and ECC memory. -chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 1: 0:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mel.alcatel.fr (mel.alcatel.fr [212.208.74.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F5537BAD0 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 01:00:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr) Received: from aifhs2.alcatel.fr (mailhub.alcatel.fr [155.132.180.80]) by mel.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP) with ESMTP id JAA08822; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:57:58 +0200 From: Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr Received: from frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr (frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr [155.132.251.32]) by aifhs2.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with SMTP id KAA15219; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:00:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) id C12568C4.002BF426 ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:00:05 +0200 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ALCATEL To: "Per Claesson" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:58:50 +0200 Subject: Re: FreeBSD v 4.0 and 3COM 3C509TP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=VFzQAu4uV7q2QTwPFsPdpFhi7jw2qwq88AelfpOhAmxZP7PFqGtDMPfi" Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --0__=VFzQAu4uV7q2QTwPFsPdpFhi7jw2qwq88AelfpOhAmxZP7PFqGtDMPfi Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hello, The new ep driver in 4.0-R is quite sensitive to some things : - it does not like when the 3c509 gets probed by **another** driver (so be sure to disable all other NIC drivers which may probe the same port address range) - it does not like either when config paramaters are left "floating", whithout any fixed value (the cure for this problem is to use 3com's setup utility and set all parameters, like port address, IRQ and Ethernet prt used : UTP, BNC ...) TfH PS : I've go around 20 3c509's working here without any problem, all under 4.0-R PS2 : could the above caveat's be included in the man page ? "Per Claesson" on 15/04/2000 10:14:57 Please respond to "Per Claesson" To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG cc: (bcc: Thierry HERBELOT/FR/ALCATEL) Subject: FreeBSD v 4.0 and 3COM 3C509TP Hi, I am trying to install v. 4 with a 3COM 3C509 isa network card, which doesn't work. I heard there are known problems with v 4 and that card. It worked fine in 2.2.8. What shall I do? How does v 3.x handle that card? Are there patches or whatever available for v 4 that I could dl before installing (obviously not after, since the card is then out)? I would appreciate any advice. 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If so, can you provide the last 20-30 lines of the > buildworld output. i mentioned it above..anyway here are the last lines: cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DDEFAULT_TARGET_VERSION=\"2.95.2\" -DDEFAULT_TARGET_MACHINE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd\" -DPREFIX=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/config -DTARGET_NAME=\"i386-unknown-freebsd\" -DIN_GCC -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/cse.c -o cse.o cpp: output pipe has been closed cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 {standard input}: Assembler messages: {standard input}:10559: Warning: end of file not at end of a line; newline inserted *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. i have no idea myself... Philipp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 3:27:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pooh.elsevier.nl (pooh.elsevier.nl [145.36.13.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B4837B50E; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 03:27:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@pooh.elsevier.nl) Received: (from steve@localhost) by pooh.elsevier.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA00239; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:33:45 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from steve) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <008c01bfa749$aca13340$f7bbb1d0@netrex.com> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:33:45 +0100 (IST) From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Jerry Bell Subject: RE: ps, top, et. al problems with 4.0 stable Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 16-Apr-00 Jerry Bell wrote: > This is somewhat long - I apologize in advance. > Do you use the loader or directly boot the kernel ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 3:28:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from macbeth.phy.hr (macbeth.phy.hr [161.53.7.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA7E37B739 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 03:28:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kkumer@macbeth.phy.hr) Received: (from kkumer@localhost) by macbeth.phy.hr (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01863 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:27:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from kkumer) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:27:33 +0200 From: Kresimir Kumericki To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: sshd and tcp-wrappers Message-ID: <20000417122732.A1826@phy.hr> Reply-To: kkumer@phy.hr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I am a bit confused about tcp-wrapping the sshd. On my 3.4-STABLE machine sshd1 (port) ignores instructions in hosts.allow. This seemed ok to me since it says in hosts.allow: # Wrapping sshd(8) is not normally a good idea and I assumed that sshd is not wrapped. Now I see that 'ldd sshd' gives: libwrap.so.7 => /usr/local/lib/libwrap.so.7 (0x280a4000) so why doesn't it obey hosts.allow? On the other hand, my new 4.0-STABLE sshd (part of a base system) is tcp-wrapped by default and obeys hosts.allow, although there still stands that "wrapping sshd(8) is not normally a good idea." (And why is it not a good idea?) Could somebody clarify this situation? -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Kresimir Kumericki kkumer@phy.hr http://www.phy.hr/~kkumer/ Theoretical Physics Department, University of Zagreb, Croatia ------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 5:21:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from erouter0.it-datacntr.louisville.edu (erouter0.it-datacntr.louisville.edu [136.165.1.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4311E37B6E2 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 05:21:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k.stevenson@louisville.edu) Received: from osaka.louisville.edu (osaka.louisville.edu [136.165.1.114]) by erouter0.it-datacntr.louisville.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D02524D92; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:21:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by osaka.louisville.edu (Postfix, from userid 15) id 2CD7718616; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:21:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:21:36 -0400 From: Keith Stevenson To: Kresimir Kumericki Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sshd and tcp-wrappers Message-ID: <20000417082136.C95086@osaka.louisville.edu> References: <20000417122732.A1826@phy.hr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000417122732.A1826@phy.hr>; from kkumer@phy.hr on Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 12:27:33PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 12:27:33PM +0200, Kresimir Kumericki wrote: > Hi! > I am a bit confused about tcp-wrapping the sshd. On my > 3.4-STABLE machine sshd1 (port) ignores instructions in hosts.allow. > This seemed ok to me since it says in hosts.allow: > > # Wrapping sshd(8) is not normally a good idea > > and I assumed that sshd is not wrapped. Now I see that 'ldd sshd' > gives: libwrap.so.7 => /usr/local/lib/libwrap.so.7 (0x280a4000) > so why doesn't it obey hosts.allow? The ports version of TCP Wrappers looks for its files in /usr/local/etc. > > On the other hand, my new 4.0-STABLE sshd (part of a base system) > is tcp-wrapped by default and obeys hosts.allow, although there still > stands that "wrapping sshd(8) is not normally a good idea." (And > why is it not a good idea?) The base system version of TCP Wrappers uses the files in /etc. Regards, --Keith Stevenson-- -- Keith Stevenson System Programmer - Data Center Services - University of Louisville k.stevenson@louisville.edu PGP key fingerprint = 4B 29 A8 95 A8 82 EA A2 29 CE 68 DE FC EE B6 A0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 6: 6:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from erouter0.it-datacntr.louisville.edu (erouter0.it-datacntr.louisville.edu [136.165.1.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188EB37B6CB for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 06:06:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k.stevenson@louisville.edu) Received: from osaka.louisville.edu (osaka.louisville.edu [136.165.1.114]) by erouter0.it-datacntr.louisville.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D22D2548F; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:06:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by osaka.louisville.edu (Postfix, from userid 15) id C4F5518616; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:06:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:06:05 -0400 From: Keith Stevenson To: Kresimir Kumericki Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sshd and tcp-wrappers Message-ID: <20000417090605.A2443@osaka.louisville.edu> References: <20000417122732.A1826@phy.hr> <20000417082136.C95086@osaka.louisville.edu> <20000417150004.A2376@phy.hr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000417150004.A2376@phy.hr>; from kkumer@phy.hr on Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 03:00:04PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 03:00:04PM +0200, Kresimir Kumericki wrote: > On (17 Apr 08:21), Keith Stevenson wrote: > > The ports version of TCP Wrappers looks for its files in /usr/local/etc. > [...] > > The base system version of TCP Wrappers uses the files in /etc. > > Uh yes. I should have guessed that. Now I symlinked /etc/hosts.allow > to /usr/local/etc/hosts.allow and it works fine. Thanks. > That leaves only the question why is it stated in hosts.allow that > "wrapping sshd(8) is not normally a good idea." > Maybe TCP wrappers before worked only with inetd and you don't want > to start sshd from inetd because of key generation so this is some kind > relic from that time or something? Just guessing. sshd(8) provides its own internal facility for allowing or denying hosts based upon IP address. Using both the internal facility and TCP Wrappers would incur additional work on accepted connections. Personally, I use TCP Wrappers on SSH and disable the internal facility. Regards, --Keith Stevenson-- -- Keith Stevenson System Programmer - Data Center Services - University of Louisville k.stevenson@louisville.edu PGP key fingerprint = 4B 29 A8 95 A8 82 EA A2 29 CE 68 DE FC EE B6 A0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 6:32:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from macbeth.phy.hr (macbeth.phy.hr [161.53.7.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E2337B6D1 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 06:32:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kkumer@macbeth.phy.hr) Received: (from kkumer@localhost) by macbeth.phy.hr (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02443; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 15:00:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from kkumer) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 15:00:04 +0200 From: Kresimir Kumericki To: Keith Stevenson Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sshd and tcp-wrappers Message-ID: <20000417150004.A2376@phy.hr> Reply-To: kkumer@phy.hr References: <20000417122732.A1826@phy.hr> <20000417082136.C95086@osaka.louisville.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000417082136.C95086@osaka.louisville.edu>; from k.stevenson@louisville.edu on Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 08:21:36AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On (17 Apr 08:21), Keith Stevenson wrote: > The ports version of TCP Wrappers looks for its files in /usr/local/etc. [...] > The base system version of TCP Wrappers uses the files in /etc. Uh yes. I should have guessed that. Now I symlinked /etc/hosts.allow to /usr/local/etc/hosts.allow and it works fine. Thanks. That leaves only the question why is it stated in hosts.allow that "wrapping sshd(8) is not normally a good idea." Maybe TCP wrappers before worked only with inetd and you don't want to start sshd from inetd because of key generation so this is some kind relic from that time or something? Just guessing. -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Kresimir Kumericki kkumer@phy.hr http://www.phy.hr/~kkumer/ Theoretical Physics Department, University of Zagreb, Croatia ------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 7:56:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9441E37B5C4 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 07:56:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BDC8E898 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:56:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA37828; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:56:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14587.9734.193635.707696@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:56:06 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sshd and tcp-wrappers In-Reply-To: <20000417122732.A1826@phy.hr> References: <20000417122732.A1826@phy.hr> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "KK" == Kresimir Kumericki writes: KK> and I assumed that sshd is not wrapped. Now I see that 'ldd sshd' KK> gives: libwrap.so.7 => /usr/local/lib/libwrap.so.7 (0x280a4000) KK> so why doesn't it obey hosts.allow? What's your path to the hosts.allow that you think should be used? libwrap.so.7 looks in /usr/local/etc/ for it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 7:57:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82FC437B5C4 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 07:57:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA30769; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:57:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) From: Michael Lucas Message-Id: <200004171457.KAA30769@blackhelicopters.org> Subject: Re: Tcsh coming soon? In-Reply-To: <20000415133407.A17234@rjk191.rh.psu.edu> from Ray Kohler at "Apr 15, 2000 1:34: 7 pm" To: rjk191@psu.edu Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:57:10 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Probably not. The tcsh merge now gives the developers a good year to see if it breaks any legacy shell scripts before 5.0-R. ==ml > I just noticed that tcsh was imported into current this morning. This > is great! How soon can we expect it to be MFC'd into RELENG_4? > > -- > Ray Kohler > FreeBSD -- The Power to Serve > This sentence contradicts itself -- no actually it doesn't. > -- Hofstadter > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 8: 1:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECC337B881 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:01:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5950E895 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:01:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA37876; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:01:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14587.10080.867467.456592@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:01:52 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sshd and tcp-wrappers In-Reply-To: <20000417090605.A2443@osaka.louisville.edu> References: <20000417122732.A1826@phy.hr> <20000417082136.C95086@osaka.louisville.edu> <20000417150004.A2376@phy.hr> <20000417090605.A2443@osaka.louisville.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "KS" == Keith Stevenson writes: KS> sshd(8) provides its own internal facility for allowing or denying KS> hosts based upon IP address. Using both the internal facility and KS> TCP Wrappers would incur additional work on accepted connections. KS> Personally, I use TCP Wrappers on SSH and disable the internal KS> facility. The internal facility *is* TCP wrappers. It just doesn't need the tcpd program, which only exists to wrap programs that don't know how to do it themselves. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 PGP & MIME spoken here http://www.kciLink.com/home/khera/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 8: 2:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tinker.exit.com (exit-gw.power.net [207.151.46.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AB3237B897; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:02:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: from realtime.exit.com (realtime.exit.com [206.223.0.5]) by tinker.exit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA69859; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:02:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: (from frank@localhost) by realtime.exit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA08599; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:02:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank) From: Frank Mayhar Message-Id: <200004171502.IAA08599@realtime.exit.com> Subject: Re: Sound Blaster Live! 4.0 (Re: 4.1 date?) In-Reply-To: <20000417031053.A30779@student-00cdr.williams.edu> from Chris Richards at "Apr 17, 2000 03:10:53 am" To: Chris Richards Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, cg@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: frank@exit.com Organization: Exit Consulting X-Copyright0: Copyright 2000 Frank Mayhar. All Rights Reserved. X-Copyright1: Permission granted for electronic reproduction as Usenet News or email only. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chris Richards wrote: > For one thing, the Linux driver would generate an NMI on module load, > and then cease to do anything anomalous (Linux doesn't panic on > unexpected NMIs). The fact that both drivers exhibit this NMI > behavior, though, makes me think that either (1) their respective > authors made the same programming error -- how does one generate NMIs > from software, anyhow? -- or (2) there is something wrong with the > SBLive hardware. Well, I'm guessing that it's the card itself generating the NMIs because it wasn't initialized correctly by the driver. Of course, Cameron should be the one to answer this, and so far I haven't seen him chime in. > There was also an interaction between the emu10k1 code and the the > Linux APM driver. With both enabled, I would see an NMI generated > precisely every 5 minutes. With just APM everything was fine, and > with just the emu10k1 the situation was as described above. The only > other person I knew to be observing this behavior was another fellow > with a Dell Dimension XPS T and ECC memory. ECC memory seems to be the common denominator; it may be that the card is doing Bad Things to the bus during memory accesses. I don't know, I don't have specs for the card so I can't really make any kind of educated guess, but I certainly hope this helps Cameron figure it out. (CC'd to cg@freebsd.org just in case he hasn't been watching this thread.) -- Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 8:29:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from search.sparks.net (search.sparks.net [208.5.188.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FBEA37B5F0 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:29:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmiller@search.sparks.net) Received: by search.sparks.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 230DBDBB4; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:25:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by search.sparks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10CFADBB3; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:25:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:25:53 -0400 (EDT) From: David Miller To: Parag Patel Cc: Morgan Davis , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.0-stable + SMP + fxp = device timeout In-Reply-To: <26709.954359726@pinhead.parag.codegen.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Parag Patel wrote: > On Wed, 29 Mar 2000 01:01:27 PST, "Morgan Davis" wrote: > > > >The subject says it all. Is this a known problem with SMP and the fxp > >driver? (Checked 4.0 errata and searched the mailing lists -- didn't see > >anything). > > Works just fine here on my dual PII/300 ASUS P97-DS motherboard. dmesg > output appended below. The machine has been up since Sunday and > survived a "make -j8 buildworld", plays audio fine (tho' recording seems > to have problems), and in short seems pretty happy. Sorry to be so late, but I thought I had an interesting data point.... A month or so back I was working on a ncr driver issue crashing a 3.4-stable system. I had a simple torutre test which a) ran a dozen or so cpu-bound programs, b) ran a dozen random IO disk benchmarks, and c) got ping flooded by a couple of other hosts. The results were: with ncr0 driver, system would crash in an hour or two with sym0 driver, system chugged away for days. with ahc driver on a 2940U2w the fxp would timeout every 30 seconds or so. This was a 3.4 stable system on a 2x500 P-III Intell NLX440 MB in a 2U case. SMP was enabled, no IRQ's were shared. I never had a chance to investigate it further:( --- David Miller To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 9:46:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from math.uic.edu (galois.math.uic.edu [131.193.178.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8EBA737B8DC for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:46:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vladimir-bsd-stable@math.uic.edu) Received: (qmail 12275 invoked by uid 31415); 17 Apr 2000 16:45:46 -0000 Date: 17 Apr 2000 16:45:46 -0000 Message-ID: <20000417164546.12274.qmail@math.uic.edu> From: vladimir-bsd-stable@math.uic.edu To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: intel etherexpress 16 (ISA) card Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >The 'ie' driver has a number of issues which I'm working to correct. > >You might try a different io port or IRQ. > >Try booting verbose as well. > >Also, make sure you only set the memory size to 32k. > I did that. I've found an interesting document http://www.jfitz.com/tips/freebsd_etherexpress16.html and configured the card according to recommendations there (except the RAM start address): I/O Address: 300 Interrupt: 5 Connector Type: RJ 45 Force 8 bit Operation: No Amount of RAM to Map: 32K RAM Start Address: D800h Flash/Boot ROM Address: Flash/Boot ROM disabled Flash Remote Boot Program: None Then I've put this in the kernel config: device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 and 'boot -v' didn't detect the card. I'll try different io's and IRQ's. I would not exclude the possibility that all 3 cards that I have are bad. BTW, they pass the softset's testing utility, but I don't know how reliable these tests are. Good luck with your work on the driver -- it's nice to know someone is working on that! Thanks. Vladimir To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 10:17:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from darkwing.uoregon.edu (darkwing.uoregon.edu [128.223.142.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF2F37B9AC for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:17:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stevev@darkwing.uoregon.edu) Received: (from stevev@localhost) by darkwing.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e3HHHRM24483; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:17:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve VanDevender MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14587.18215.302849.446478@darkwing.uoregon.edu> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:17:27 -0700 (PDT) To: Doug Barton Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail.mc In-Reply-To: <38F8134F.1DC83EBE@gorean.org> References: <14583.23046.787588.254947@darkwing.uoregon.edu> <200004141801.LAA16303@freeway.dcfinc.com> <14583.25392.604675.326430@darkwing.uoregon.edu> <38F8134F.1DC83EBE@gorean.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug Barton writes: > Steve VanDevender wrote: > > > the problem is that the FreeBSD install overwrote our > > customized config file with no warning. > > How _exactly_ did you do the install? > > Doug Well, this is what is supposed to have happened. I didn't do the upgrade procedure myself; I am just responsible for the mail stuff on the machine in question. reboot cd /usr/src make -DNOINFO installworld make installworld reboot So if this is the "wipe out everything" install procedure, I guess I know what happened. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 10:28:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7594237B862; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:28:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27999; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:28:02 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200004171728.KAA27999@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Sound Blaster Live! 4.0 (Re: 4.1 date?) In-Reply-To: <200004171502.IAA08599@realtime.exit.com> from Frank Mayhar at "Apr 17, 0 08:02:50 am" To: frank@exit.com Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:28:02 -0700 (MST) Cc: crichard-freebsd@wso.williams.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, cg@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Frank Mayhar wrote: > Well, I'm guessing that it's the card itself generating the NMIs > because it wasn't initialized correctly by the driver. Of course, > Cameron should be the one to answer this, and so far I haven't seen > him chime in. Except most PC hardware has no trace on the buss for NMI; add in cards can't generate it. > ECC memory seems to be the common denominator; it may be that the card > is doing Bad Things to the bus during memory accesses. I don't know, > I don't have specs for the card so I can't really make any kind of > educated guess, but I certainly hope this helps Cameron figure it out. That's the big hint. NMIs are generated when error correcting (ECC) or error detecting (parity) memory has an uncorrected error. Does this card have on-board memory? Or is it doing DMA transfers? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 10:33:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from erouter0.it-datacntr.louisville.edu (erouter0.it-datacntr.louisville.edu [136.165.1.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98AD737B932 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:33:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k.stevenson@louisville.edu) Received: from osaka.louisville.edu (osaka.louisville.edu [136.165.1.114]) by erouter0.it-datacntr.louisville.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6CA024ED9; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:33:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by osaka.louisville.edu (Postfix, from userid 15) id 58F5718656; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:33:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:33:34 -0400 From: Keith Stevenson To: Vivek Khera Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sshd and tcp-wrappers Message-ID: <20000417133334.B10528@osaka.louisville.edu> References: <20000417122732.A1826@phy.hr> <20000417082136.C95086@osaka.louisville.edu> <20000417150004.A2376@phy.hr> <20000417090605.A2443@osaka.louisville.edu> <14587.10080.867467.456592@onceler.kcilink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <14587.10080.867467.456592@onceler.kcilink.com>; from khera@kciLink.com on Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 11:01:52AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 11:01:52AM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: > >>>>> "KS" == Keith Stevenson writes: > > KS> sshd(8) provides its own internal facility for allowing or denying > KS> hosts based upon IP address. Using both the internal facility and > KS> TCP Wrappers would incur additional work on accepted connections. > KS> Personally, I use TCP Wrappers on SSH and disable the internal > KS> facility. > > The internal facility *is* TCP wrappers. It just doesn't need the > tcpd program, which only exists to wrap programs that don't know how > to do it themselves. I know that _FreeBSD_ builds OpenSSH against libwrap, but the entry in the documentation predates OpenSSH. The internal mechanism I was referring to is the AllowHosts and DenyHosts options in sshd_config. I think that we are all in agreement, however, that there is no harm in building SSH against libwrap. Regards, --Keith Stevenson-- -- Keith Stevenson System Programmer - Data Center Services - University of Louisville k.stevenson@louisville.edu PGP key fingerprint = 4B 29 A8 95 A8 82 EA A2 29 CE 68 DE FC EE B6 A0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 10:57:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tinker.exit.com (exit-gw.power.net [207.151.46.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0398C37B770 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:57:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: from realtime.exit.com (realtime.exit.com [206.223.0.5]) by tinker.exit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA71790; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:57:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: (from frank@localhost) by realtime.exit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00864; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:57:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank) From: Frank Mayhar Message-Id: <200004171757.KAA00864@realtime.exit.com> Subject: Re: Sound Blaster Live! 4.0 (Re: 4.1 date?) In-Reply-To: <200004171728.KAA27999@freeway.dcfinc.com> from "Chad R. Larson" at "Apr 17, 2000 10:28:02 am" To: chad@DCFinc.com Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Cc: frank@exit.com, crichard-freebsd@wso.williams.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, cg@FreeBSD.ORGG Reply-To: frank@exit.com Organization: Exit Consulting X-Copyright0: Copyright 2000 Frank Mayhar. All Rights Reserved. X-Copyright1: Permission granted for electronic reproduction as Usenet News or email only. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chad R. Larson wrote: > As I recall, Frank Mayhar wrote: > > Well, I'm guessing that it's the card itself generating the NMIs > > because it wasn't initialized correctly by the driver. Of course, > > Cameron should be the one to answer this, and so far I haven't seen > > him chime in. > Except most PC hardware has no trace on the buss for NMI; add in > cards can't generate it. Well, yeah. I guess I left out the word "indirectly" between "itself" and "generating." > > ECC memory seems to be the common denominator; it may be that the card > > is doing Bad Things to the bus during memory accesses. I don't know, > > I don't have specs for the card so I can't really make any kind of > > educated guess, but I certainly hope this helps Cameron figure it out. > That's the big hint. NMIs are generated when error correcting (ECC) > or error detecting (parity) memory has an uncorrected error. > > Does this card have on-board memory? Or is it doing DMA transfers? My bet is it's doing DMA but I don't know for certain. I'm going to try to pry some information out of Creative today. Scream and groan and invoke the name of my employer. "Compaq" has that 800-pound-gorilla effect at times. Claim it's for Linux and therefore it's gotta be open-source. Not entirely misleading, either, we've got a number of Linux projects going on. -- Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 11:15:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay02.chello.nl (relay02.chello.nl [212.83.68.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403B237BBE4; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:15:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay02.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 99c8f334c649856e3f2cdadc4054e412) with ESMTP id <20000417181502.NGHT9461.relay02@chello.nl>; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:15:02 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01070; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:15:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:15:03 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: frank@exit.com, crichard-freebsd@wso.williams.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, cg@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound Blaster Live! 4.0 (Re: 4.1 date?) Message-ID: <20000417201502.A1020@yedi.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: <200004171502.IAA08599@realtime.exit.com> <200004171728.KAA27999@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200004171728.KAA27999@freeway.dcfinc.com>; from chad@DCFinc.com on Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 10:28:02AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 10:28:02AM -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote: > As I recall, Frank Mayhar wrote: > > Well, I'm guessing that it's the card itself generating the NMIs > > because it wasn't initialized correctly by the driver. Of course, > > Cameron should be the one to answer this, and so far I haven't seen > > him chime in. > > Except most PC hardware has no trace on the buss for NMI; add in > cards can't generate it. That is the IOCHK* line. IIRC you can distinguish (even on PC hardware ;-) if the NMI comes from the IOCHK* line or from the memory subsystem. -- Wilko Bulte Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 14:27:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE89037BBF3 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:27:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from slave (doug@slave [10.0.0.1]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA53511; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:27:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:27:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton X-Sender: doug@dt051n0b.san.rr.com To: Steve VanDevender Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail.mc In-Reply-To: <14587.18215.302849.446478@darkwing.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Steve VanDevender wrote: > Doug Barton writes: > > Steve VanDevender wrote: > > > > > the problem is that the FreeBSD install overwrote our > > > customized config file with no warning. > > > > How _exactly_ did you do the install? > > > > Doug > > Well, this is what is supposed to have happened. I didn't do the > upgrade procedure myself; I am just responsible for the mail stuff on > the machine in question. > > reboot > > cd /usr/src > make -DNOINFO installworld > make installworld > reboot > > > So if this is the "wipe out everything" install procedure, I guess I > know what happened. There is no way a make world install would blow away anything in /etc. The make world process leaves that directory completely untouched. It sounds to me like someone ran mergemaster and was not careful about what they were doing. Doug -- Excess on occasion is exhilarating. It prevents moderation from acquiring the deadening effect of a habit. -- W. Somerset Maugham To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 15: 0: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9337437BA62; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:59:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA52905; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 15:59:53 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA73586; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 15:59:23 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200004172159.PAA73586@harmony.village.org> To: wc.bulte@chello.nl Subject: Re: Sound Blaster Live! 4.0 (Re: 4.1 date?) Cc: "Chad R. Larson" , frank@exit.com, crichard-freebsd@wso.williams.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, cg@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:15:03 +0200." <20000417201502.A1020@yedi.wbnet> References: <20000417201502.A1020@yedi.wbnet> <200004171502.IAA08599@realtime.exit.com> <200004171728.KAA27999@freeway.dcfinc.com> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 15:59:22 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000417201502.A1020@yedi.wbnet> Wilko Bulte writes: : if the NMI comes from the IOCHK* line or from the memory subsystem. Yes, you can. We've used the NMI generated by the IOCHK* line for our own purposes for a while now... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 15:25:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apoq.skynet.be (apoq.skynet.be [195.238.2.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBAFC37BB1A for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 15:25:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.20.16] (dialup272.brussels.skynet.be [195.238.20.16]) by apoq.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525831F2FF; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 00:25:30 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20000417133334.B10528@osaka.louisville.edu> References: <20000417122732.A1826@phy.hr> <20000417082136.C95086@osaka.louisville.edu> <20000417150004.A2376@phy.hr> <20000417090605.A2443@osaka.louisville.edu> <14587.10080.867467.456592@onceler.kcilink.com> <20000417133334.B10528@osaka.louisville.edu> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 00:10:00 +0200 To: Keith Stevenson , Vivek Khera From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: sshd and tcp-wrappers Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 1:33 PM -0400 2000/4/17, Keith Stevenson wrote: > I think that we are all > in agreement, however, that there is no harm in building SSH against libwrap. So long as this fact is explicit and documented, I have no problem with this statement -- despite the fact that I recently cut myself off from one of my production systems for a while as I had installed TCP-Wrappers for a new application (and had not previously bothered to have a /etc/hosts.allow, since all the other applications gave me the ability to do the same sorts of things in other ways), and created a /etc/hosts.allow that was surprisingly over-restrictive. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 15:50:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C6C37BCA9 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 15:50:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <115215>; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 08:51:06 +1000 Content-return: prohibited From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Building 2.2-STABLE on a 4.x or 5.x system. To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <00Apr18.085106est.115215@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 08:51:03 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to build RELENG_2_2 on a 4.x system and having some problems (so far, due to the AOUT->ELF transition). Has anyone else attempted this? Does anyone have patches to make it work? I would be happy to upgrade to 3.x or 4.x, but the target is a 386 laptop with 8MB RAM and 80MB disk. I can't shrink 3.x to the point where it'll fit, and the NFS in 2.x isn't up to doing a make world (my last attempt caused the system to reboot when I did an NFS mount). Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 16: 1:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7E137BAFF for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:01:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 12hKVl-00023o-00 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 19:00:57 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 19:00:57 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Building 2.2-STABLE on a 4.x or 5.x system. Message-ID: <20000417190056.H2559@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <00Apr18.085106est.115215@border.alcanet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <00Apr18.085106est.115215@border.alcanet.com.au>; from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au on Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 08:51:03AM +1000 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Jeremy probably said: > I would be happy to upgrade to 3.x or 4.x, but the target is a 386 > laptop with 8MB RAM and 80MB disk. I can't shrink 3.x to the point > where it'll fit, and the NFS in 2.x isn't up to doing a make world You can get 3.x pretty small; pir@foop> df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0s1a 73383 27923 39590 41% / pir@foop> uname -a FreeBSD foop 3.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE #0: Tue Apr 11 19:46:34 EDT 2000 pir@disapp:/usr/src/PAO3/src/sys/compile/FOOP i386 P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 16:12:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C3E637B6E5 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:12:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA53199 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 17:12:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id RAA86150 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 17:11:55 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200004172311.RAA86150@harmony.village.org> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Building 2.2-STABLE on a 4.x or 5.x system. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Apr 2000 19:00:57 EDT." <20000417190056.H2559@pir.net> References: <20000417190056.H2559@pir.net> <00Apr18.085106est.115215@border.alcanet.com.au> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 17:11:55 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000417190056.H2559@pir.net> Peter Radcliffe writes: : pir@foop> df : Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on : /dev/wd0s1a 73383 27923 39590 41% / Our flash cards are down to 15MB for 3.x. Of course you can't do everything you want, but the system has more than enough for our embedded system, plus more than enough debugging aids. The initial size for the "this is the smallest system that I can get the /etc/rc scripts to boot with" was 12MB, although 12MB is a little too austere. I suspect that if I linked /bin and /sbin dynamic, I could shave 3MB or so off these totoals. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 18:20:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADCB37B996; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 18:20:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA95696; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 18:20:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 18:20:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Peter Jeremy Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Building 2.2-STABLE on a 4.x or 5.x system. In-Reply-To: <00Apr18.085106est.115215@border.alcanet.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > I'm trying to build RELENG_2_2 on a 4.x system and having some problems > (so far, due to the AOUT->ELF transition). Has anyone else attempted > this? Does anyone have patches to make it work? It might be simpler to install a 2.2 machine and buildworld, and then installworld or copy it across (what you said about NFS wasn't clear whether you'd tried just the installworld over NFS). Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 19: 1:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4CA37B616 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 19:01:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 12hNKJ-0002z7-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:01:19 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:01:19 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: emacs -nw 19 broken ? Message-ID: <20000417220118.J2559@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is it just me or is anyone else seeing the emacs 19 port/package being broken when used other than under X (vty, xterm, etc) with 4.* ? Looks like it would if the termcap or screen size is wrong ... but I've tried it on a raw 4.0 installation so I'm pretty sure my enviroment isn't messing it up. I've tried the precompiled package and building the port myself. emacs 20 works fine, but I don't like emacs 20 :/ P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 19:15: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from boromir.vpop.net (dns1.vpop.net [206.117.147.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C2237B9AB for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 19:14:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mreimer@vpop.net) Received: from vpop.net ([209.102.16.48]) by boromir.vpop.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA97914 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 19:14:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mreimer@vpop.net) Message-ID: <38FBC547.AB09EEDC@vpop.net> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 19:15:35 -0700 From: Matthew Reimer Organization: VPOP Technologies, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: emacs -nw 19 broken ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG See PR 17496 for a solution: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=17496 Matt Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > Is it just me or is anyone else seeing the emacs 19 port/package being > broken when used other than under X (vty, xterm, etc) with 4.* ? > > Looks like it would if the termcap or screen size is wrong ... but > I've tried it on a raw 4.0 installation so I'm pretty sure my > enviroment isn't messing it up. I've tried the precompiled package > and building the port myself. > > emacs 20 works fine, but I don't like emacs 20 :/ > > P. > > -- > pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 20: 9:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51FB637BB0D for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:09:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10436 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:08:53 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15105; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:08:52 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200004180308.NAA15105@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:08:52 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just a heads-up: The 4.0 CDs from WC don't seem to contain distfiles any more - the last two disks contain only packages (i.e. pre-compiled binaries). Not that I am complaining, but I did find it very useful to have the distfiles to save long FTPs when we wanted to install stuff on Solaris! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 21: 2:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from heidegger.uol.com.br (heidegger.uol.com.br [200.230.198.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E033A37BA61 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 21:02:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lioux-alias-ppp-freebsd-stable=freebsd.org@uol.com.br) Received: from 200-191-154-211-as.acessonet.com.br (200-191-154-211-as.acessonet.com.br [200.191.154.211]) by heidegger.uol.com.br (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA22685 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 01:01:59 -0300 (BRT) Received: (qmail 1115 invoked by uid 1001); 18 Apr 2000 04:01:45 -0000 From: lioux@uol.com.br Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 01:01:45 -0300 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Kerberos 5 from stable not compiling (current one does) Message-ID: <20000418010145.B396@Fedaykin.here> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've been trying to compile Kerberos 5 from stable sources, but whenever I am near libkrb5 I get: cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libkrb5/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/krb5 -I/usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libkrb5/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/asn1 -I/usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libkrb5/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/des -I/usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libkrb5/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/roken -I/usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libkrb5/../../../crypto/heimdal/include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libkrb5/../../lib/libkrb5 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libkrb5/../../lib/libasn1 -Wall -I/usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libkrb5/../../include -I/usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libkrb5/../../include -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DINET6 -c /usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libkrb5/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/krb5/keytab_krb4.c -o keytab_krb4.o /usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libkrb5/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/krb5/keytab_krb4.c:35: krb.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libkrb5/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/krb5/keytab_krb4.c: In function `krb4_kt_add_entry': /usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libkrb5/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/krb5/keytab_krb4.c:230: `ANAME_SZ' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libkrb5/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/krb5/keytab_krb4.c:230: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libkrb5/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/krb5/keytab_krb4.c:230: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libkrb5/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/krb5/keytab_krb4.c:231: `INST_SZ' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libkrb5/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/krb5/keytab_krb4.c:232: `REALM_SZ' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libkrb5/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/krb5/keytab_krb4.c:232: warning: unused variable `realm' /usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libkrb5/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/krb5/keytab_krb4.c:231: warning: unused variable `instance' /usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libkrb5/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/krb5/keytab_krb4.c:230: warning: unused variable `service' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libkrb5. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/kerberos5/lib. *** Error code 1 However, I've been able to mix crypt+kerberos5-current with src-all-stable sucessfully. Does anyone know when will the current crypto release be backported into stable? At least the working kerberos5? I will keep working with these mixed sources for now but I would love a clean stable installation. :) -- Regards mferreira To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 21:14:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C60137BB0D for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 21:14:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA03472; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 21:16:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Gregory Bond Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:08:52 +1000." <200004180308.NAA15105@lightning.itga.com.au> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 21:16:29 -0700 Message-ID: <3469.956031389@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Just a heads-up: The 4.0 CDs from WC don't seem to contain distfiles any mor e > - the last two disks contain only packages (i.e. pre-compiled binaries). That's because the number of packages got so large as to basically kick the distfiles off. We really need DVD to become more popular in end-user machines and for the replication companies to be able to cope with it. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 21:31:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.millennium20.com (smtp.thecyberguys.net [209.79.190.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0800B37BC3F for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 21:31:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glennpj@bayouhome.net) Received: from gforce.johnson.home (1Cust114.tnt2.covington.la.da.uu.net [63.31.31.114]) by smtp.millennium20.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e3I4UR622279 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 21:30:27 -0700 Received: (from glenn@localhost) by gforce.johnson.home (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA02089 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 23:31:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from glenn) From: Glenn Johnson Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 23:31:29 -0500 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Should rcp be in /bin? Message-ID: <20000417233129.A2056@gforce.johnson.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there a reason why rcp is installed in /bin, while rsh, rlogin, and friends are in /usr/bin? Thanks. -- Glenn Johnson glennpj@bayouhome.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 21:44: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF0737BB85 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 21:43:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <115226>; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 14:44:18 +1000 Content-return: prohibited From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: 3-STABLE hangs In-reply-to: <20000417112535.A26098@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au>; from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au on Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 11:25:36AM +1000 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <00Apr18.144418est.115226@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <20000417112535.A26098@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 14:44:18 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2000-Apr-17 11:25:36 +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: >I have a Dell OptiPlex GXi (Pentium-133 with 96MB RAM) running >3-STABLE (from last night) which is used to simulate a WAN (using >dummynet). Under normal operation, it hangs about every 2 weeks, >but I can make it happen in about 15 minutes by loading up the >box. My testing is to saturate the networks with a mixture of FTP and scp traffic requiring a mixture of NAT, delaying or neither. At the same time, I perform a 'make buildworld' and 'dd if=/dev/rwd0c of=/dev/null bs=64k'. This fairly reliably killed the original configuration within 5 minutes. So far, I've tried: - swapping all the DIMMs. This has had no effect. - Changing the amount of RAM. The lockups take much longer to occur when I only have 32MB or 64MB RAM. - Increasing UPAGES to 3 (on the offchance that nested interrupts were overflowing the kernel stack). This had no effect. The only oddity I noticed was that with smaller amounts of RAM, the transmit side of fxp2 would sometimes stop (leading to `out of buffer space' errors from routed). "ifconfig fxp2 down; ifconfig fxp2 ip" fixed it. I haven't seen this at 96MB, or on any other interface. There's no evidence of mbuf (or any other memory) shortage using "vmstat -m" or "netstat -m". I've just about run out of ideas. Does anyone else have any? Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 23:28:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94BA037BC4C for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 23:28:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA29667; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 23:28:18 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200004180628.XAA29667@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD v 4.0 and 3COM 3C509TP In-Reply-To: from "Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr" at "Apr 17, 0 09:58:50 am" To: Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 23:28:18 -0700 (MST) Cc: per@visimedia.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr wrote: > The new ep driver in 4.0-R is quite sensitive to some things: > it does not like when the 3c509 gets probed by **another** driver (so > be sure to disable all other NIC drivers which may probe the same port > address range) > it does not like either when config paramaters are left "floating", > whithout any fixed value (the cure for this problem is to use 3com's > setup utility and set all parameters, like port address, IRQ and > Ethernet prt used : UTP, BNC ...) Matt Dodd will tell you this is not possible... -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 17 23:53: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B2437BB88 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 23:52:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA29866; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 23:52:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200004180652.XAA29866@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs In-Reply-To: <3469.956031389@zippy.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Apr 17, 0 09:16:29 pm" To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 23:52:30 -0700 (MST) Cc: gnb@itga.com.au, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > That's because the number of packages got so large as to basically > kick the distfiles off. We really need DVD to become more popular > in end-user machines and for the replication companies to be able to > cope with it. :) Or, to remove the distfiles from the "standard" subscription, and make them a subscription of their own. If that were to be done, I'd also suggest that those distfiles that cannot be included on a CD-ROM because of copyright issues be clearly collected under a directory that held only URLs to those distfiles, and that there be provided a shell script that would collect them. This would make it easier for someone to lay hands on all the distfiles at any point in time coinciding with a matching release, and to burn a private CD-ROM to go with the release. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 0:33:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mel.alcatel.fr (mel.alcatel.fr [212.208.74.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029E337B9A3 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 00:33:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr) Received: from aifhs10.alcatel.fr (mailhub2.alcatel.fr [155.132.188.80]) by mel.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP) with ESMTP id JAA11661 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 09:30:53 +0200 From: Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr Received: from frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr (frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr [155.132.251.32]) by aifhs10.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with SMTP id JAA28984; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 09:33:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) id C12568C5.0029831E ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 09:33:25 +0200 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ALCATEL To: Karsten Patzwaldt Cc: stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 09:33:21 +0200 Subject: Re: where can I get a recent 3.4 snapshot ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, the main reason is : the machine to build is a lowly P5-75 (making world is mainly out of the question, and I also don't have a direct connection to the 'Net, so cvsup is not a possibility) TfH Karsten Patzwaldt on 17/04/2000 15:59:04 To: Thierry HERBELOT/FR/ALCATEL@ALCATEL cc: Subject: Re: where can I get a recent 3.4 snapshot ? On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 09:51:53AM +0200, Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr wrote: > I've been looking at the current.freebsd.org and releng4.freebsd.org ftp servers > and I can't find a recent snapshot for the "recommanded" 3-stable branch. > > (stable- and releng3 ftp servers don't seem to exist) > > Did I miss something ? Why not upgrading via CVSup? -- Karsten To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 1: 4:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from merganser.its.uu.se (merganser.its.uu.se [130.238.6.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4058A37BA4D for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 01:04:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.csd.uu.se) Received: from regulus.student.UU.SE ([130.238.5.2]:53910 "HELO ertr1013.student.csd.uu.se") by merganser.its.uu.se with SMTP id ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:04:42 +0200 Received: (qmail 1765 invoked by uid 1001); 18 Apr 2000 08:04:33 -0000 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:04:33 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs Message-ID: <20000418100433.A1739@student.csd.uu.se> References: <200004180308.NAA15105@lightning.itga.com.au> <3469.956031389@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <3469.956031389@zippy.cdrom.com>; from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com on Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 09:16:29PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 09:16:29PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Just a heads-up: The 4.0 CDs from WC don't seem to contain distfiles any mor > e > > - the last two disks contain only packages (i.e. pre-compiled binaries). > > That's because the number of packages got so large as to basically > kick the distfiles off. We really need DVD to become more popular > in end-user machines and for the replication companies to be able to > cope with it. :) > Thanks for the warning. Now I won't bother to get the 4.0 CDs since one of my major reasons for getting them was to get a (reasonable) up-to-date set of distfiles. (Downloading large distfiles over a 33.6K modem is not fun.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 1:22:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7F837B9D6 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 01:22:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA04607; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 01:22:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Erik Trulsson Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:04:33 +0200." <20000418100433.A1739@student.csd.uu.se> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 01:22:45 -0700 Message-ID: <4604.956046165@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Thanks for the warning. Now I won't bother to get the 4.0 CDs since one of > my major reasons for getting them was to get a (reasonable) up-to-date set > of distfiles. (Downloading large distfiles over a 33.6K modem is not fun.) That's what the FreeBSD toolkit CD will provide. We hope to have it updated for 4.0 very shortly. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 3:49: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gidora.zeta.org.au (gidora.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A728637B955 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 03:48:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from atrn@zeta.org.au) Received: (qmail 15812 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2000 10:48:44 -0000 Received: from ppp65.dyn145.pacific.net.au (HELO ska.bsn) (210.23.145.65) by gidora.zeta.org.au with SMTP; 18 Apr 2000 10:48:44 -0000 Received: (from andy@localhost) by ska.bsn (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA72086; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:54:15 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andy) Message-ID: <20000418205415.I71515@ska.bsn> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:54:15 +1000 From: Andy Newman To: Glenn Johnson , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should rcp be in /bin? References: <20000417233129.A2056@gforce.johnson.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91i In-Reply-To: <20000417233129.A2056@gforce.johnson.home>; from Glenn Johnson on Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 11:31:29PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 11:31:29PM -0500, Glenn Johnson wrote: > Is there a reason why rcp is installed in /bin, while rsh, rlogin, and > friends are in /usr/bin? A statically linked rcp available in single user mode can save your arse. That's why. -- Chuck Berry lied about the promised land To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 4:30:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [194.221.183.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 15DE037B833 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 04:30:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sdt@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 5040 invoked by uid 0); 18 Apr 2000 11:30:33 -0000 Received: from as15-146.brunet.bn (202.160.15.146) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 18 Apr 2000 11:30:33 -0000 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 19:31:27 +0800 (BNT) From: Stefanus Du Toit X-Sender: sdt@stomper.sdtzone To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: /sbin/mknod complains in make distrib-dirs distribution Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I just completed building 4.0-RELEASE (which I obtained via cvsup). It built fine (I used buildworld). I am upgrading from the 3.4 cds (Jan 2000). Now, once I completed compiling I went into single-user mode and did a make DESTDIR=/var/tmp/root-18042000 distrib-dirs distribution (yes that directory existed). It seemed to go pretty well until it started running MAKEDEV and I got lots of /sbin/makedev syntax errors (/sbin/makedev was called with only one parameter). Now, I realise I probably should've done a make installworld first, but I would like to know if you could tell me whether this is the reason that it's failing or whether it'll still be this way after a make installworld. The reason I'm not just going ahead and trying is that I'm a little stressed on time at the moment and can't really afford using up too much time hacking around to get failing upgrades working :/. (I'm unfortunately not subscribed to the mailing lists at the point because I can't handle the traffic [I tried, really! :) ] so please reply to both the list/s and me, thanks!] PS: I love being able to update using cvsup - I come from Linux, where updating is usually a matter of a big ftp download or buying a cd :/ Thanks, -- Stefanus Du Toit * WorldForger * Unix Hacker * Open Source Fanatic mailto:sdt@gmx.net * http://www.worldforge.org/ * http://ultracool.net/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 6: 9:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from netcom.com (netcom5.netcom.com [199.183.9.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 163C537B651 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 06:09:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stanb@netcom.com) Received: (from stanb@localhost) by netcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA06568 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 06:09:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Stan Brown Message-Id: <200004181309.GAA06568@netcom.com> Subject: EP driver still habgs after 4,0 upgrade To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Stable List) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 09:09:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I posted about amonth back about a Vectra 486/33 that I am setting up as a gateway box between 2 networks. I am using 2 3C509 cards. At the timne I could reliably hange up the networks by simply running an Amanda backup accros them, This of coures results in a steady high bandwitdth transfer. At teh time I was using 3.4 STABLE. It was sugested that I upgarde to 4.0 STABLE because it had a significantly improved ep driver. I did ths, with some help from this list n the chages in configuring the ep driver under 4.0 (thanks). Well the good news is, it's better. The bad nes is it is till possible to get it to hang :-( It hangs in the OACTIVE state, if that's helpfule, and just doing an ifconfgi dow, folowed by an ifconfig up on the hung card wull cause it start working again for a while. It's alwasy during one of these big Amanda trabsfers that it hangs. Both cards are using 10BASEt caeing, and I have swaped computers, and both cards at this point in time. In addition I have set up an identical computer using NE2000 clones (D Link), and put it in the same service. I has never hung up. I geuss I could buy 2 more NE2000 clones, but I have a ton of these 3C509's from work where they are converting to 100MHZ. Cany anyone sugest any way to help debug this problem. I would be happy to do anything that will help in getting this fixed. Thanks. -- Stan Brown stanb@netcom.com 404-996-6955 Factory Automation Systems Atlanta Ga. -- Look, look, see Windows 95. Buy, lemmings, buy! Pay no attention to that cliff ahead... Henry Spencer (c) 1998 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 8:36:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 266B337B9DC for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 08:36:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@privatelabs.com) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (root@misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA16593; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:35:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from privatelabs.com (mi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01374; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:35:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@privatelabs.com) From: mi@privatelabs.com Message-Id: <200004181535.LAA01374@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:35:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: EP driver still habgs after 4,0 upgrade To: Stan Brown Cc: FreeBSD Stable List In-Reply-To: <200004181309.GAA06568@netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 18 Apr, Stan Brown wrote: = Well the good news is, it's better. The bad nes is it is till possible = to get it to hang :-( It hangs in the OACTIVE state, if that's = helpfule, and just doing an ifconfgi dow, folowed by an ifconfig up on = the hung card wull cause it start working again for a while. It's = alwasy during one of these big Amanda trabsfers that it hangs. = = Both cards are using 10BASEt caeing, and I have swaped computers, and = both cards at this point in time. In addition I have set up an = identical computer using NE2000 clones (D Link), and put it in the same = service. I has never hung up. = = Cany anyone sugest any way to help debug this problem. I would be happy = to do anything that will help in getting this fixed. See if reducing MTU helps you. I set it at 900 (default is 1500) and the problem went away... (ifconfig ep0 mtu 900) -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 9:12:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tinker.exit.com (exit-gw.power.net [207.151.46.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBED637B59A; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 09:12:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: from realtime.exit.com (realtime.exit.com [206.223.0.5]) by tinker.exit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01777; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 09:12:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: (from frank@localhost) by realtime.exit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01805; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 09:12:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank) From: Frank Mayhar Message-Id: <200004181612.JAA01805@realtime.exit.com> Subject: Re: Sound Blaster Live! 4.0 In-Reply-To: <000901bfa880$8e4ceeb0$0304020a@NENYA> from Cameron Grant at "Apr 17, 2000 04:21:08 pm" To: Cameron Grant Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 09:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Cc: frank@exit.com, Chris Richards , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, cg@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: frank@exit.com Organization: Exit Consulting X-Copyright0: Copyright 2000 Frank Mayhar. All Rights Reserved. X-Copyright1: Permission granted for electronic reproduction as Usenet News or email only. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Cameron Grant wrote: > to be honest, i have no idea why this happens. if the linux driver also > behaves in this way then the matter needs to be taken up with creative as > that code is the only available programming info. Well, I checked with Creative and was directed to http://developer.soundblaster.com which had a link to http://opensource.creative.com/ from which I went to their bugzilla database. Turns out this has been found and fixed in their driver. It looks like a hack to me, but the patch was in their main.c rev 1.63 and involved, apparently, initializing all the card page table entries "to point to themselves so that when illegal memory access occurs, the system won't hang" (quoted from the patch in Bugzilla). The code in question is in main.c in function hw_init() around line 473: for (pagecount = 0; pagecount < (MAXPAGES - RESERVED); pagecount++) ((u32 *) card->virtualpagetable->virtaddx)[pagecount] = (card->silentpage->busaddx * 2) | pagecount; Cameron, I hope you know how to interpret this in terms of the FreeBSD emu10k1.c (I certainly don't). It apparently _does_ fix the NMIs seen in Linux, though. -- Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 9:39:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from spork.cs.unm.edu (mail.cs.unm.edu [198.59.151.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4427937BAF2; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 09:39:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from colinj@unm.edu) Received: from onion.cs.unm.edu ([198.59.151.178] helo=unm.edu) by spork.cs.unm.edu with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 12hb0G-000587-00; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:37:32 -0600 Message-ID: <38FC8F7A.9DDE8F40@unm.edu> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:38:18 -0600 From: Colin Eric Johnson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: C J Michaels Cc: Southwell , Mike Smith , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IEEE 1394 support References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just did a little looking and there does seem to be a linux IEEE 1394 project in the works. Take a look at: http://linux1394.sourceforge.net/ (the newer site) http://eclipt.uni-klu.ac.at/ieee1394/ (the older site) They don't seem to have any mention of any patent problems. C J Michaels wrote: > > My understanding of IEEE 1394 is that it is patented by Apple and anyone > who wishes to use it has to pay a royalty to Apple. Maybe I misunderstood > and this only applies to hardware manufacturers. > > -- > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Southwell > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 7:04 PM > To: Mike Smith > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: IEEE 1394 support > > Hi > > I posted a query relating to Firewire support and Mike came back with the > awful news that he felt the field was so laced with patents that it was > not > worth trying.. > I am quite interested in seeing if a way round the problems can be found - > does anyone have any pointers. > > What I felt would be useful would be to try to support either the Texas > Instruments IEEE 1394 OCHI compliant controller or some of the other cards > that are available. (I have an on board TI chip). Does anyone have a link > to > some information that can identify the patent problems Mike referred to? > > Initially I would like to be able to get a "simple" capture program that > would generate either AVI Type 1 or Type 2 files from a camcorder. > > Are the problems as insurmountable as Mike seems to feel they are? > > David > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Smith" > To: "Southwell" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 8:08 AM > Subject: Re: IEEE 1394 support > > > > Is any one working on firewire (IEEE 1394) support for camcorders? > > > > No; the field is laced with patents which prevent any really useful work > > being done. You might as well ignore firewire for the time being. -- Colin E. Johnson | colinj@unm.edu | http://www.unm.edu/~colinj/ ``...what you really wanted to ask was if the Universe is indeed ludicrous. But that is a question each must answer for himself.'' -Stanislaw Lem "King Globare and the Sages" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 10:58:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.ea4els.ampr.org (36-MADR-X27.libre.retevision.es [62.82.37.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0650D37BB06 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:58:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sjmudd@pobox.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phoenix.ea4els.ampr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE30636F7 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:01:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:01:34 +0200 (CEST) From: Simon J Mudd To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: boot on SCSI gets stuck at F1 Freebsd Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm having trouble booting from a SCSI disk into FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE and 4.0-STABLE. The boot gets stuck at "F1 Freebsd" and then doesn't do anything. I've been booting by hand from a 3.3-RELEASE CDROM typing 0:da(0,a)/kernel at the cdrom's boot prompt and this works fine. With linux I had to modify lilo.conf to include the "linear" option (which from the man page generates linear sector address rather than sector/head/cylinder addresses). man loader/boot hasn't helped (me), and I'm not entirely sure which part of the boot process is failing, nor how to remedy the problem. The SCSI adaptor is a Adaptec 2940UW. dmesg says (booting from the cdrom): sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 5.000MB/s transfers (5.000MHz, offset 8) Mounting root from ufs:da0s1a cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 4.901MB/s transfers (4.901MHz, offset 15) cd0: cd present [329606 x 2048 byte records] da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4357MB (8925000 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 4357C) Any pointers would be appreciated. Simon -- Simon J Mudd, Madrid SPAIN Tel: +34-91-408 4878 email: sjmudd@pobox.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 11:29: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zipcode.corp.home.net (zipcode.corp.home.net [24.0.26.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB81637BB0E for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:28:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from manek@ecst.csuchico.edu) Received: from after (shiva-user18.corp.home.net [24.0.8.148]) by zipcode.corp.home.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA12862 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:28:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Sameer R. Manek" To: Subject: 3.4-stable and ppp -auto Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:28:21 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01BFA929.33AF4120" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BFA929.33AF4120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've noticed that when i run ppp -auto -nat for extended periods of time, ifconfig tends to grow pretty long. Something is not removing old ip addresses from the kernel. Old routes are also in the routing table. Has anyone else noticed this problem? I've attached a few examples. Thanks Sameer ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BFA929.33AF4120 Content-Type: text/plain; name="example.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="example.txt" hardknocks# ifconfig tun0 | wc -l 99 hardknocks# netstat -rn Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif = Expire default 206.132.165.226 UGSc 2 172103 tun0 10/24 link#1 UC 0 0 xl0 10.0.0.2 0:c0:4f:3a:36:71 UHLW 1 59881 xl0 = 997 10.0.3.2 10.0.3.1 UH 0 0 tun0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 40 lo0 206.132.165.226 216.126.137.156 UH 2 0 tun0 216.126.136.226 216.126.134.27 UH 0 0 tun0 255.255.255.255 216.126.136.113 UHb 0 0 tun0 hardknocks# ifconfig tun0=20 tun0: flags=3D8051 mtu 1500 inet 10.0.3.1 --> 10.0.3.2 netmask 0xffffff00=20 inet 216.126.136.113 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff=20 inet 216.126.138.34 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff=20 inet 216.126.135.129 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff=20 inet 216.126.135.168 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff=20 inet 216.126.136.119 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff=20 inet 216.126.137.98 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff=20 inet 216.126.135.24 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff=20 inet 216.126.135.69 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff=20 inet 216.126.137.200 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff=20 inet 216.126.134.174 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BFA929.33AF4120-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 12: 5:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49EFB37B9F4 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:04:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA60332; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:04:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:04:49 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Stan Brown Cc: FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: EP driver still habgs after 4,0 upgrade In-Reply-To: <200004181309.GAA06568@netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've got an idea where this might be happening. I'll see what I can come up with. On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Stan Brown wrote: > Hi, I posted about amonth back about a Vectra 486/33 that I am setting > up as a gateway box between 2 networks. I am using 2 3C509 cards. At > the timne I could reliably hange up the networks by simply running an > Amanda backup accros them, > > This of coures results in a steady high bandwitdth transfer. > > At teh time I was using 3.4 STABLE. It was sugested that I upgarde to > 4.0 STABLE because it had a significantly improved ep driver. > > I did ths, with some help from this list n the chages in configuring > the ep driver under 4.0 (thanks). > > Well the good news is, it's better. The bad nes is it is till possible > to get it to hang :-( It hangs in the OACTIVE state, if that's > helpfule, and just doing an ifconfgi dow, folowed by an ifconfig up on > the hung card wull cause it start working again for a while. It's > alwasy during one of these big Amanda trabsfers that it hangs. > > Both cards are using 10BASEt caeing, and I have swaped computers, and > both cards at this point in time. In addition I have set up an > identical computer using NE2000 clones (D Link), and put it in the same > service. I has never hung up. > > I geuss I could buy 2 more NE2000 clones, but I have a ton of these > 3C509's from work where they are converting to 100MHZ. > > Cany anyone sugest any way to help debug this problem. I would be happy > to do anything that will help in getting this fixed. > > Thanks. > > -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 12:34:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from outlier.axl.net (outlier.axl.net [216.66.11.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 04C9637B914 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:34:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@axl.net) Received: (qmail 87344 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2000 19:34:37 -0000 Received: from ws-01.matthennigus.lightningdsl.net (HELO sinister) (216.66.30.66) by outlier.axl.net with SMTP; 18 Apr 2000 19:34:37 -0000 From: "Matthew B. Henniges" To: Subject: nat redirection Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:37:29 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, thanks for reading. I am hiding the 10.0.1.0/24 network behind a freebsd 4.0-S box, with natd. This network is for our desktop machines. there are 3 ips bound to the outer nic(dc0) 216.66.11.23 216.66.11.90 and 216.66.11.91 and 1 ips bound to the inner nic(dc1) 10.0.1.1 there is a w2k server on 10.0.1.200. This server is hosting some web/ftp sites that need to be accessable to the world. So, natd is started with: #www and ftp mapping redirect_port tcp 10.0.1.200:20-21 216.66.11.90:20-21 redirect_port tcp 10.0.1.200:80 216.66.11.90:80 #ftp2 mapping redirect_port tcp 10.0.1.201:20-21 216.66.11.91:20-21 So far, so good. Heres the problem: there are various DNS entries that point to 216.66.11.90 and 91. If one of the clients on 10.0.1.* tries to browse/ftp to one of these, it can't connect because the natd redirection to those only listens on the outside nic. What is the best way to solve this problem? My thoughts were: 1. using some ipfw fwd rules... This seems to me like it should work, thought I was unable to get it working. or 2. give different replies to the 10.0.1 network than I give to everybody else.. Anybody have any ideas? Thanks in advance- Matthew B. Henniges CoPresident Axl.net Communications http://www.axl.net (203) 552-1714 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 12:34:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38DDE37BBEA for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:34:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (john [10.0.0.2]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03515; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:29:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200004181929.PAA03515@server.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:29:30 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Simon J Mudd Subject: RE: boot on SCSI gets stuck at F1 Freebsd Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 18-Apr-00 Simon J Mudd wrote: > I'm having trouble booting from a SCSI disk into FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE and > 4.0-STABLE. > > The boot gets stuck at "F1 Freebsd" and then doesn't do anything. > > I've been booting by hand from a 3.3-RELEASE CDROM typing > > 0:da(0,a)/kernel at the cdrom's boot prompt > > and this works fine. > > With linux I had to modify lilo.conf to include the "linear" option (which > from the man page generates linear sector address rather than > sector/head/cylinder addresses). man boot0cfg. You want to turn on packet mode in boot0 it sounds like. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 12:35: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ipf.net (relay.gigabell.net [195.211.211.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F18E37BB4E for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:34:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from koellmann@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 19159 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2000 19:34:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.home.net) (194.29.32.160) by relay.gigabell.net with SMTP; 18 Apr 2000 19:34:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 82911 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2000 19:28:53 -0000 Received: from desk.home.net (192.168.1.2) by server.home.net with SMTP; 18 Apr 2000 19:28:53 -0000 Received: by desk.home.net (Postfix, from userid 1002) id AF010934BE; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 21:28:22 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 21:28:22 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Thomas_K=F6llmann?= To: "Sameer R. Manek" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3.4-stable and ppp -auto Message-ID: <20000418212822.A346@home.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from manek@ecst.csuchico.edu on Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 11:28:21AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-Uptime: 9:21pm up 44 mins, 2 users, load averages: 1.02, 1.01, 0.92 X-PGP-KeyID: 8C45AC01 X-PGP-Fingerprint: C5 F0 DE B2 AD 70 B9 45 B0 F9 0C D3 58 19 48 C8 Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hamburger_Gesellschaft_mit_beschr=E4nkter_Hoffnung?= Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sameer R. Manek wrote/schrieb (Tuesday, April 18, 2000): | I've noticed that when i run ppp -auto -nat for extended periods of time, | ifconfig tends to grow pretty long. | | Something is not removing old ip addresses from the kernel. Old routes are | also in | the routing table. | | Has anyone else noticed this problem? I've attached a few examples. k => cat /etc/ppp/ppp.linkdown okay.net: iface clear [...] HTH, Gruß - Thomas -- SOMETIMES I FEEL SO GOOD I GOTTA SCREAM SHE SAID GORDIE BABY I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU MEAN | - The Tragically Hip, SHE SAID SHE SAID I SWEAR TO GOD SHE SAID........ | New Orleans is Sinking # PGP key sent on request / PGP key auf Wunsch per e-mail To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 12:47:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f28.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 505FD37BB5D for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:47:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mattpayton@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 26719 invoked by uid 0); 18 Apr 2000 19:47:29 -0000 Message-ID: <20000418194729.26718.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.160.194.34 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:47:29 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.160.194.34] From: "Matt Payton" To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:47:29 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 12:59:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.nwlink.com (smtp.nwlink.com [209.20.130.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2404A37B692 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:59:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kkeysler@nwlink.com) Received: from fargo.caldonia.net (ip32.usr7.usw.du.nwlink.com [209.20.138.32]) by smtp.nwlink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01402; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:58:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:12:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Keeler X-Sender: kkeysler@localhost To: "Sameer R. Manek" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.4-stable and ppp -auto In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Sameer R. Manek wrote: > I've noticed that when i run ppp -auto -nat for extended periods of time, > ifconfig tends to grow pretty long. > > Something is not removing old ip addresses from the kernel. Old routes are > also in > the routing table. > > Has anyone else noticed this problem? I've attached a few examples. > > Thanks > Sameer > I had this problem for a while. Take a look at iface clear in the ppp man page. I put it in ppp.linkdown, and it seems to be working fine. E=mc^2 student 1 each Ken Keeler "The Internet, is that thing still around?" - Homer J. Simpson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 13:11:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB8237BAAB for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:11:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07375; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:12:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Christoph Sold Cc: Erik Trulsson , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:57:33 +0200." <38FCB01D.AF8D0C9B@i-clue.de> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:12:04 -0700 Message-ID: <7372.956088724@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Anyhow, it would be _very_ nice if there could be some mechanism set up in > .../distfiles, which just symlinks to the right CD of the toolkit. This way, I'm not sure there's any way to force the user to insert the right CD of a 6 CD toolkit for an arbitrary port. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 13:16:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zeus.larp.com (zeus.larp.com [38.209.52.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B3E37B648 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:16:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmo@zeus.larp.com) Received: from localhost (asmo@localhost) by zeus.larp.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13303 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:11:04 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:11:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Justin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 13:29: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1BDF37BB5A for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:28:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA36438; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:28:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) From: Michael Lucas Message-Id: <200004182028.QAA36438@blackhelicopters.org> Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs In-Reply-To: <7372.956088724@zippy.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Apr 18, 2000 1:12: 4 pm" To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:28:51 -0400 (EDT) Cc: stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I'm not sure there's any way to force the user to insert the right CD > of a 6 CD toolkit for an arbitrary port. :) > > - Jordan If the user is running a recent FreeBSD, and has a supported network card implanted at the base of his skull, I'm sure we could do something. (I haven't been following the discussions on freebsd-wetware too closely; last I heard, the bootstrap toolchain was nearly complete. Surely they're booting by now?) Failing that, a greppable index of what distfile is on which CD would be quite nice, and something I've missed on earlier CDs. (This, of course, is where everybody in the world jumps up and says "But it's always been there, you just needed to look it /cdrom/blah.") ==ml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 13:30:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39F237BA9A; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:30:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA06526; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:30:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:30:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Colin Eric Johnson Cc: C J Michaels , Southwell , Mike Smith , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IEEE 1394 support In-Reply-To: <38FC8F7A.9DDE8F40@unm.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Colin Eric Johnson wrote: > I just did a little looking and there does seem to be a linux IEEE 1394 > project in the works. Take a look at: > > http://linux1394.sourceforge.net/ (the newer site) > http://eclipt.uni-klu.ac.at/ieee1394/ (the older site) > > They don't seem to have any mention of any patent problems. Linux people often operate in blissful ignorance of annoying things like patents..be warned :) Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 13:36:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BEDC37B97A for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:36:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07633; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:38:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Michael Lucas Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:28:51 EDT." <200004182028.QAA36438@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:38:06 -0700 Message-ID: <7630.956090286@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Failing that, a greppable index of what distfile is on which CD would > be quite nice, and something I've missed on earlier CDs. I could certainly make a super-set INDEX file with some sort of CD# field (I'd have to extend or munge the current INDEX format) available on each of the CDs, sure. That's a good idea. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 13:52:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay01.chello.nl (smtp.chello.nl [212.83.68.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1082E37BB77 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:52:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay01.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 99c8f334c649856e3f2cdadc4054e412) with ESMTP id <20000418205224.HMHP585.relay01@chello.nl>; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:52:24 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA02022; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:52:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:52:14 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Christoph Sold , Erik Trulsson , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs Message-ID: <20000418225214.A2004@yedi.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: <38FCB01D.AF8D0C9B@i-clue.de> <7372.956088724@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <7372.956088724@zippy.cdrom.com>; from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com on Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 01:12:04PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 01:12:04PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Anyhow, it would be _very_ nice if there could be some mechanism set up in > > .../distfiles, which just symlinks to the right CD of the toolkit. This way, > > I'm not sure there's any way to force the user to insert the right CD > of a 6 CD toolkit for an arbitrary port. :) This must be a commie plot to sell more 6-disc CDchangers (which are supported by FreeBSD just fine BTW) ;-) -- Wilko Bulte Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 15:37:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (tun.AwfulHak.org [194.242.139.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44B037BB8A for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:37:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA24433; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 23:37:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00499; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:41:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200004182141.WAA00499@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Sameer R. Manek" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: 3.4-stable and ppp -auto In-Reply-To: Message from "Sameer R. Manek" of "Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:28:21 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:41:21 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I've noticed that when i run ppp -auto -nat for extended periods of time, > ifconfig tends to grow pretty long. > > Something is not removing old ip addresses from the kernel. Old routes are > also in > the routing table. > > Has anyone else noticed this problem? I've attached a few examples. It's not a problem, it's a feature :*D Check out ppp.conf.sample. > Thanks > Sameer -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 15:38:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (tun.AwfulHak.org [194.242.139.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682F437BC46 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:38:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA24435; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 23:37:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00514; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:43:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200004182143.WAA00514@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Gregory Bond , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs In-Reply-To: Message from "Jordan K. Hubbard" of "Mon, 17 Apr 2000 21:16:29 PDT." <3469.956031389@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:43:10 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Just a heads-up: The 4.0 CDs from WC don't seem to contain distfiles any mor > e > > - the last two disks contain only packages (i.e. pre-compiled binaries). > > That's because the number of packages got so large as to basically > kick the distfiles off. We really need DVD to become more popular > in end-user machines and for the replication companies to be able to > cope with it. :) So when is a DVD distribution likely to be plausible ? ;-) > - Jordan -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 15:52:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pebkac.owp.csus.edu (pebkac.owp.csus.edu [130.86.232.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24BF037B6EE for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:52:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Received: from owp.csus.edu (mail.owp.csus.edu [130.86.232.247]) by pebkac.owp.csus.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA75093; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:52:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Message-ID: <38FCE69F.23AEC923@owp.csus.edu> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:50:07 -0700 From: Joseph Scott X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Matthew B. Henniges" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nat redirection References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Matthew B. Henniges" wrote: > > So far, so good. Heres the problem: > > there are various DNS entries that point to 216.66.11.90 and 91. > If one of the clients on 10.0.1.* tries to browse/ftp to one of these, it > can't connect because the natd redirection to those only listens on the > outside nic. > > What is the best way to solve this problem? > > My thoughts were: > > 1. using some ipfw fwd rules... This seems to me like it should work, > thought I was unable to get it working. > > or > > 2. give different replies to the 10.0.1 network than I give to everybody > else.. > > Anybody have any ideas? I'm far from an expert on such matters, but I've been faced with the same thing multiple times. After reading through various lists I believe that your "option 2" in generally considered the correct way to deal with it. That's how I've got one of our networks dealing with it. In case you are searching list archives or something I believe the term you want is "split dns". The idea is simply that you have an internal dns server resolving to your private 10.x.x.x network and an external dns resolving to your outside ips. The general feelings from people dealing with these issues seems to be that split dns is also usually the easiest way to deal with this, even though it does involve running another box and maintaining two sets of dns records. -- Joseph Scott joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu Office Of Water Programs - CSU Sacramento To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 16:39:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptialaska.net (mail.ptialaska.net [198.70.245.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80EEE37B635 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:39:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vizion@ptialaska.net) Received: from vizion2000 (dialups-71.sitka.ptialaska.net [198.70.227.71]) by ptialaska.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA07897; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:39:08 -0800 (AKDT) Message-ID: <001401bfa98f$16acbce0$47e346c6@demon.co.uk> From: "Southwell" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , "Brian Somers" Cc: "Gregory Bond" , , References: <200004182143.WAA00514@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:37:34 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Disposition-Notification-To: "Southwell" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yep I just bought the new set and was a bit upset when I found the distfiles were missing -- Seems to me, that at a minimum, it would have been better to have known about the change before ordering rather than afterwards. More appropriately the number of CDs could have been increased from 4 to 5 -- The set is not expensive- so an appropriate price increase would have been no obstacle.. after all people buy the CD when they do not have access to a high speed connection. Does this mean that we are permanently limited to a maximum of 4 CDs to a collection..dare I say that even MS do not set such arbitrary limits!! It feel as though this issue could have been better handled whilst at the same time I would like to say a sincere thank you to those who put this issue together.But as a result of this I would grade the result as B- (i.e. -Good but please do better next time!! ;-) David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Somers" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: "Gregory Bond" ; ; Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 1:43 PM Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs > > > Just a heads-up: The 4.0 CDs from WC don't seem to contain distfiles any mor > > e > > > - the last two disks contain only packages (i.e. pre-compiled binaries). > > > > That's because the number of packages got so large as to basically > > kick the distfiles off. We really need DVD to become more popular > > in end-user machines and for the replication companies to be able to > > cope with it. :) > > So when is a DVD distribution likely to be plausible ? ;-) > > > - Jordan > > -- > Brian > > Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 16:51: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from odin.egate.net (as2.dm.egate.net [216.235.1.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E1037BB90 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:50:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from buff@pobox.com) Received: from localhost (buff@localhost) by odin.egate.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA15691 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 19:50:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: odin.egate.net: buff owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 19:50:55 -0400 (EDT) From: William Denton X-Sender: buff@odin.egate.net To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Serial port problems with 4.0 In-Reply-To: <20000413121205.A25584@tricord.system.pl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 13 April 2000, Marcin Cieslak wrote: : Most ISPs today don't use a traditinal login "terminal" login scheme, : they instead allow ppp to put LCP packets on the wire and verify : authentication using PAP or CHAP instead. : : I usually dial up manually, using "term" command and "ATDT" Hayes : string and see if login prompt is really "login:" or perhaps : "username:" or something else. Using terminal mode with 4.0 on the box, I can connect to the ISP, it says CONNECT 115200, then nothing. When 3.4 was on the box, and with the machine I'm on now (still 3.4 until I get this PPP thing figured out), I get the old-fashioned login: prompt. So it seems there's something about 4.0-RELEASE and ppp on this machine that's causing PPP to freeze up early on so that the login prompt never arrives. The racks do give up the prompt. I checked out the FAQ, and took its advice on recompiling ppp with a couple of added options so I could run the debugger on it. Doing a stack trace when it was sitting waiting, I got this: #0 0x281c1c50 in select () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #1 0x8068e71 in DoLoop (bundle=0x808a7e0) at main.c:534 #2 0x8068d83 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbfbffbdc) at main.c:492 #3 0x804af59 in _start () What's going on in usr.sbin/ppp/main.c is beyond me, though. Bill -- William Denton : Toronto, Canada : http://www.miskatonic.org/ : Caveat lector. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 17: 4:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apoq.skynet.be (apoq.skynet.be [195.238.2.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E34C737B5D7 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 17:04:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [194.78.234.108] (dialup584.brussels2.skynet.be [195.238.25.72]) by apoq.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E5B1F307; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 02:04:46 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001401bfa98f$16acbce0$47e346c6@demon.co.uk> References: <200004182143.WAA00514@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> <001401bfa98f$16acbce0$47e346c6@demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 02:01:40 +0200 To: "Southwell" , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , "Brian Somers" From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs Cc: "Gregory Bond" , , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 3:37 PM -0800 2000/4/18, Southwell wrote: > More appropriately the number of CDs could have been increased from 4 to > 5 -- The set is not expensive- so an appropriate price increase would have > been no obstacle.. after all people buy the CD when they do not have access > to a high speed connection. Does this mean that we are permanently limited > to a maximum of 4 CDs to a collection..dare I say that even MS do not set > such arbitrary limits!! I may be wrong, but I'd be willing to venture a guess that switching from four to five CDs in the set is a much bigger change than you may think -- now you've got to come up with a packaging mechanism that can handle one or two more CDs than before, this may cost more money to ship, you might have to completely change from using plastic double jewel cases to thick paper multi-fold carriers, you've got increased mastering costs and time, and I'm sure there are a whole bunch of factors I have not yet considered. Sometimes when you add another straw, you really do break the camel's back. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 17:11:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (mass.cdrom.com [204.216.28.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C5C37BB7E for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 17:11:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00843; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 17:18:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200004190018.RAA00843@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Simon J Mudd Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot on SCSI gets stuck at F1 Freebsd In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:01:34 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 17:18:03 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You probably have the "extended translation for disks > 1GB" option in the Adaptec BIOS turned off. FreeBSD requires this to be on. > I'm having trouble booting from a SCSI disk into FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE and > 4.0-STABLE. > > The boot gets stuck at "F1 Freebsd" and then doesn't do anything. > > I've been booting by hand from a 3.3-RELEASE CDROM typing > > 0:da(0,a)/kernel at the cdrom's boot prompt > > and this works fine. > > With linux I had to modify lilo.conf to include the "linear" option (which > from the man page generates linear sector address rather than > sector/head/cylinder addresses). > > man loader/boot hasn't helped (me), and I'm not entirely sure which part > of the boot process is failing, nor how to remedy the problem. > > The SCSI adaptor is a Adaptec 2940UW. dmesg says (booting from the > cdrom): > > sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 > sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device > sa0: 5.000MB/s transfers (5.000MHz, offset 8) > Mounting root from ufs:da0s1a > cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 > cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device > cd0: 4.901MB/s transfers (4.901MHz, offset 15) > cd0: cd present [329606 x 2048 byte records] > da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled > da0: 4357MB (8925000 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 4357C) > > Any pointers would be appreciated. > > Simon > -- > Simon J Mudd, Madrid SPAIN Tel: +34-91-408 4878 email: sjmudd@pobox.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 18: 0:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptialaska.net (mail.ptialaska.net [198.70.245.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4870F37B726 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:00:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vizion@ptialaska.net) Received: from vizion2000 (dialups-142.sitka.ptialaska.net [198.70.227.142]) by ptialaska.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA14518; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:59:55 -0800 (AKDT) Message-ID: <001601bfa99a$5a15d060$8ee346c6@demon.co.uk> From: "Southwell" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , "Brian Somers" , "Brad Knowles" Cc: "Gregory Bond" , , References: <200004182143.WAA00514@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org><001401bfa98f$16acbce0$47e346c6@demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:58:14 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Disposition-Notification-To: "Southwell" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sure but difficulties are there to be overcome -- otherwise what the @$#% are we doing here --!! grinz :-) I have managed changes in disc set so I am aware of the probs -- seems to me that a simple solution might have been an extra CD in a cardboard sleeve!! David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Knowles" To: "Southwell" ; "Jordan K. Hubbard" ; "Brian Somers" Cc: "Gregory Bond" ; ; Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 4:01 PM Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs > At 3:37 PM -0800 2000/4/18, Southwell wrote: > > > More appropriately the number of CDs could have been increased from 4 to > > 5 -- The set is not expensive- so an appropriate price increase would have > > been no obstacle.. after all people buy the CD when they do not have access > > to a high speed connection. Does this mean that we are permanently limited > > to a maximum of 4 CDs to a collection..dare I say that even MS do not set > > such arbitrary limits!! > > I may be wrong, but I'd be willing to venture a guess that > switching from four to five CDs in the set is a much bigger change > than you may think -- now you've got to come up with a packaging > mechanism that can handle one or two more CDs than before, this may > cost more money to ship, you might have to completely change from > using plastic double jewel cases to thick paper multi-fold carriers, > you've got increased mastering costs and time, and I'm sure there are > a whole bunch of factors I have not yet considered. > > Sometimes when you add another straw, you really do break the camel's back. > > -- > These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy > ====================================================================== > Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV > Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 > Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels > http://www.skynet.be || Belgium > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 18: 1:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hecky.it.northwestern.edu (hecky.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.16.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7240837B92C for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:01:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djkanter@nwu.edu) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by hecky.it.northwestern.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA05750 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:01:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (dika-17-028133.nuts.nwu.edu [165.124.28.133]) by hecky.acns.nwu.edu via smap (V2.0) id xmac05609; Tue, 18 Apr 00 20:01:22 -0500 Received: (from david@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA38575 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 17:54:07 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 17:54:07 -0500 From: "David J. Kanter" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs Message-ID: <20000418175407.A38552@localhost.localdomain> References: <7372.956088724@zippy.cdrom.com> <200004182028.QAA36438@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200004182028.QAA36438@blackhelicopters.org>; from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org on Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 04:28:51PM -0400 X-Organization: Northwestern University X-Operating-System: FreeBSD localhost.localdomain 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 04:28:51PM -0400, Michael Lucas wrote: > Failing that, a greppable index of what distfile is on which CD would > be quite nice, and something I've missed on earlier CDs. ---end quoted text--- I did that for myself with the 4-CD 3.4-R set. I just combined all the INDEXes into one file, with each entry preceeded by a CD-1, CD-2, etc. It makes things a lot easier. -- David Kanter djkanter@nwu.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 18:10:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell13.ba.best.com (shell13.ba.best.com [206.184.139.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8001037BB5D; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:10:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rone@ennui.org) Received: (from rone@localhost) by shell13.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.sh) id SAA03434; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:10:27 -0700 (PDT) From: heart of magnesium Message-Id: <200004190110.SAA03434@shell13.ba.best.com> Subject: Changing packaging to add a couple of CDs In-Reply-To: from Brad Knowles at "Apr 19, 0 02:01:40 am" To: blk@skynet.be (Brad Knowles) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stable@freebsd.org, chat@freebsd.org Reply-To: chat@freebsd.org X-URL: http://ennui.org/rone/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brad Knowles writes: I may be wrong, but I'd be willing to venture a guess that switching from four to five CDs in the set is a much bigger change than you may think -- now you've got to come up with a packaging mechanism that can handle one or two more CDs than before, this may cost more money to ship, you might have to completely change from using plastic double jewel cases to thick paper multi-fold carriers, you've got increased mastering costs and time, and I'm sure there are a whole bunch of factors I have not yet considered. You can change to the swiveling (or hinged) double-CD trays instead of the regular single-CD trays. That would allow up to 6 CDs in the current packaging. This should probably go to freebsd-chat. rone -- "Boss, was he singing what I thought he was singing?" "A young man tells his beloved of his love for her." "'My little hairy testicle--'" "It's a cultural thing, Loiosh. You wouldn't understand." - Steven Brust To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 20:11:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.ea4els.ampr.org (190-MADR-X48.libre.retevision.es [62.82.50.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60D337B668; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:11:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sjmudd@pobox.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phoenix.ea4els.ampr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D899836F8; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 23:58:43 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 23:58:43 +0200 (CEST) From: Simon J Mudd To: John Baldwin Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: boot on SCSI gets stuck at F1 Freebsd In-Reply-To: <200004181929.PAA03515@server.baldwin.cx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > On 18-Apr-00 Simon J Mudd wrote: > > I'm having trouble booting from a SCSI disk into FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE and > > 4.0-STABLE. > > > > The boot gets stuck at "F1 Freebsd" and then doesn't do anything. > man boot0cfg. You want to turn on packet mode in boot0 it sounds like. I think this is what I'm looking for. Shame there's no reference to it in the loader or boot man pages. It's also missing some examples, but I think this is what I'm looking for. Thanks, Simon -- Simon J Mudd, Madrid SPAIN Tel: +34-91-408 4878 email: sjmudd@pobox.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 20:11:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3608437B9D7 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:11:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02518; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 19:23:46 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200004190223.TAA02518@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: nat redirection In-Reply-To: <38FCE69F.23AEC923@owp.csus.edu> from Joseph Scott at "Apr 18, 0 03:50:07 pm" To: joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu (Joseph Scott) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 19:23:46 -0700 (MST) Cc: matt@axl.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@dcfinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > The general feelings from people dealing with these issues seems to be > that split dns is also usually the easiest way to deal with this, even > though it does involve running another box and maintaining two sets of > dns records. We run a dual DNS at the office, one hands out addresses to the outside world, the other takes care of our internal systems. We've got a class B address block, so we're not NATing. But we do publish only a minor subset of all our systems to the outside. We do it on one box, though. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 20:18:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from grace.speakeasy.org (grace.speakeasy.org [216.254.0.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 88E6437B7F1 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:18:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seanj@speakeasy.org) Received: (qmail 21851 invoked by uid 6969); 19 Apr 2000 03:18:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Apr 2000 03:18:13 -0000 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:18:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean Jensen_Grey To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Colin Eric Johnson , C J Michaels , Southwell , Mike Smith , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IEEE 1394 support In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG dudes, there aren't any PATENT problems that would effect software to my knowledge. there is only a problem if you want to label your product FireWire (pay apple a dollar per item shipped). Now witness the i.Link and other brand names popping up around IEEE 1394. TI is happy to provide info on firewire. They make most of the chipsets shipped in consumer computer applications. And haven't been seeing the sales they wanted. Search http://www.patents.ibm.com/cgi-bin/patsearch for 1394, If you have HARDWARE in your hand, all the patent issues have been care of allready by the manufacturer. now witness patents like (dont get alarmed) http://www.patents.ibm.com/details?&pn10=US05938752 which are merely done to prevent someone like rtime from patenting air. I doubt they will ever enforce it. If you look i think they even patented html. gotta cover your assets. Develop first, ask questions later. Besides expressing ideas in code is all protected under the freedom of speech. No one would ever take that away. B^) http://www.law.emory.edu/FEDERAL/usconst/amend.html#art-1 On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Colin Eric Johnson wrote: > > > I just did a little looking and there does seem to be a linux IEEE 1394 > > project in the works. Take a look at: > > > > http://linux1394.sourceforge.net/ (the newer site) > > http://eclipt.uni-klu.ac.at/ieee1394/ (the older site) > > > > They don't seem to have any mention of any patent problems. > > Linux people often operate in blissful ignorance of annoying things like > patents..be warned :) > > Kris > > ---- > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 20:49:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptialaska.net (mail.ptialaska.net [198.70.245.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782E237B51B; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:49:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vizion@ptialaska.net) Received: from vizion2000 (dialups-30.sitka.ptialaska.net [198.70.227.30]) by ptialaska.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA29504; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 19:49:41 -0800 (AKDT) Message-ID: <008f01bfa9b2$08f65f20$1ee346c6@demon.co.uk> From: "Southwell" To: "Sean Jensen_Grey" , "Kris Kennaway" Cc: "Colin Eric Johnson" , "C J Michaels" , "Mike Smith" , References: Subject: Re: IEEE 1394 support Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 19:47:46 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Disposition-Notification-To: "Southwell" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sean... I agree .. I have spent three days researching this one -- and I just cannot find anything which sustains the idea that patents are the obstacle.. I can see why some people do not want it to be true (no one on this list)... Besides I like a bus that is fast - good for video and you can still use when the computer is not working... QED david ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Jensen_Grey" To: "Kris Kennaway" Cc: "Colin Eric Johnson" ; "C J Michaels" ; "Southwell" ; "Mike Smith" ; Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 7:18 PM Subject: Re: IEEE 1394 support > dudes, there aren't any PATENT problems that would effect software to my > knowledge. there is only a problem if you want to label your product FireWire > (pay apple a dollar per item shipped). Now witness the i.Link and other brand > names popping up around IEEE 1394. > > TI is happy to provide info on firewire. They make most of the chipsets shipped > in consumer computer applications. And haven't been seeing the sales they > wanted. > > Search > > http://www.patents.ibm.com/cgi-bin/patsearch > > for 1394, If you have HARDWARE in your hand, all the patent issues have been > care of allready by the manufacturer. > > now witness patents like (dont get alarmed) > > http://www.patents.ibm.com/details?&pn10=US05938752 > > which are merely done to prevent someone like rtime from patenting air. I doubt > they will ever enforce it. If you look i think they even patented html. gotta > cover your assets. > > Develop first, ask questions later. Besides expressing ideas in code is all > protected under the freedom of speech. No one would ever take that away. B^) > > http://www.law.emory.edu/FEDERAL/usconst/amend.html#art-1 > > > > On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Colin Eric Johnson wrote: > > > > > I just did a little looking and there does seem to be a linux IEEE 1394 > > > project in the works. Take a look at: > > > > > > http://linux1394.sourceforge.net/ (the newer site) > > > http://eclipt.uni-klu.ac.at/ieee1394/ (the older site) > > > > > > They don't seem to have any mention of any patent problems. > > > > Linux people often operate in blissful ignorance of annoying things like > > patents..be warned :) > > > > Kris > > > > ---- > > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > > -- Charles Forsythe > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 22:22:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.ea4els.ampr.org (153-MADR-X24.libre.retevision.es [62.82.34.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF7837BB7F; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:22:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sjmudd@pobox.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phoenix.ea4els.ampr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3385136F8; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 07:09:55 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 07:09:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Simon J Mudd To: Mike Smith Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot on SCSI gets stuck at F1 Freebsd In-Reply-To: <200004190018.RAA00843@mass.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Mike Smith wrote: > You probably have the "extended translation for disks > 1GB" option in > the Adaptec BIOS turned off. FreeBSD requires this to be on. Using boot0cfg's packet option also fixes the problem. I'll double check the BIOS config. Thanks, Simon -- Simon J Mudd, Madrid SPAIN Tel: +34-91-408 4878 email: sjmudd@pobox.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 22:42: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from student-00cdr.williams.edu (student-00cdr.williams.edu [137.165.32.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE17E37BC1C; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:42:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@student-00cdr.williams.edu) Received: by student-00cdr.williams.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A3A6858; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 01:42:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 01:42:12 -0400 From: Chris Richards To: Cameron Grant Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/sound/pci emu10k1.c Message-ID: <20000419014212.A316@student-00cdr.williams.edu> References: <200004181911.MAA96314@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200004181911.MAA96314@freefall.freebsd.org>; from cg@FreeBSD.org on Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 12:11:39PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 12:11:39PM -0700, Cameron Grant wrote: > Modified files: > sys/dev/sound/pci emu10k1.c > Log: > try the fix from creative bugzilla for nmi problem Alas, the fix didn't. The 4.0-STABLE kernel still panics with a RAM parity error. -chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 22:54:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8042F37BC09; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:54:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA72058; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 01:55:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 01:55:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Colin Eric Johnson Cc: C J Michaels , Southwell , Mike Smith , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IEEE 1394 support In-Reply-To: <38FC8F7A.9DDE8F40@unm.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Colin Eric Johnson wrote: >I just did a little looking and there does seem to be a linux IEEE 1394 >project in the works. Take a look at: > >http://linux1394.sourceforge.net/ (the newer site) >http://eclipt.uni-klu.ac.at/ieee1394/ (the older site) > >They don't seem to have any mention of any patent problems. The fact that it's an IEEE standard indicates that there cannot be too terribly many patent problems with the technology itself. I would really like to see Apple kick some firewire code back into the BSD community since they are the ones pushing its industry acceptance. Has anyone checked to see if there is anything in Darwin with regards to IEEE 1394 yet? Brandon D. Valentine -- "...and as for hackers, we note that all of those known to The Register are so strapped financially that seizing their property would be tantamount to squeezing blood from a stone." -- The Register, 02/17/2000 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 22:57:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DE237BC21 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:57:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA72081; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 01:58:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 01:58:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: "Sameer R. Manek" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.4-stable and ppp -auto In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Sameer R. Manek wrote: >I've noticed that when i run ppp -auto -nat for extended periods of time, >ifconfig tends to grow pretty long. > >Something is not removing old ip addresses from the kernel. Old routes are >also in >the routing table. You need to put the following in your ppp.linkdown file: myisp: iface clear Good luck. =) Brandon D. Valentine -- "...and as for hackers, we note that all of those known to The Register are so strapped financially that seizing their property would be tantamount to squeezing blood from a stone." -- The Register, 02/17/2000 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 18 23:29:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F291237B6BF; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 23:29:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 12hnzB-00058b-00 ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 02:29:17 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 02:29:16 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FBSD 4.0-S, linux-netscape hitting portmapper Message-ID: <20000419022916.A19554@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i X-fish: < Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just tracked this one down and since I havn't seen this mentioned thought I'd mention it to save someone else the same trouble. I installed linux-netscape (for the linux plugins), don't run portmapper on this machine and do use log-in-vain. Every time it tried to resolve anything I saw 6 or 7 hits on localhost, rpc and it had to wait for something to time out before getting the dns resolution and then working correctly ... It turned out that /usr/compat/linux/etc/nsswitch.conf had lots of entries for nis in it. I removed the nis entries and all went back to as I'd expect. Should these entries be there by default ? P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 1:18: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from manta.mayn.de (manta.mayn.de [194.145.150.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2873037B606 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 01:17:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@manta.mayn.de) Received: by manta.mayn.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 14D949B006; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:22:45 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:22:45 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: build problems Message-ID: <20000419102245.A63354@manta.mayn.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Heya! This is FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #0: Wed Mar 1 18:38:12 CET 2000 alex@cichlids.cichlids.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/MANTA i386 I try to build world, which fails. I wonder, if this is a common error or if my repository is fucked, since this was a fresh co -rRELENG_4. groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' ===> share/doc/smm/10.named touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/src/share/doc/smm/10.named/../../../../contrib/bind/doc/bog; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -me -o1- /usr/src/share/doc/smm/10.named/../../../../contrib/bind/doc/bog/00macs.me /usr/src/share/doc/smm/10.named/../../../../contrib/bind/doc/bog/00title.me /usr/src/share/doc/smm/10.named/../../../../contrib/bind/doc/bog/intro.me /usr/src/share/doc/smm/10.named/../../../../contrib/bind/doc/bog/ns.me /usr/src/share/doc/smm/10.named/../../../../contrib/bind/doc/bog/types.me /usr/src/share/doc/smm/10.named/../../../../contrib/bind/doc/bog/files.me /usr/src/share/doc/smm/10.named/../../../../contrib/bind/doc/bog/named.boot.primary /usr/src/share/doc/smm/10.named/../../../../contrib/bind/doc/bog/named.boot.secondary /usr/src/share/doc/smm/10.named/../../../../contrib/bind/doc/bog/named.boot.cache /usr/src/share/doc/smm/10.named/../../../../contrib/bind/doc/bog/resolv.conf /usr/src/share/doc/smm/10.named/../../../../contrib/bind/doc/bog/root.cache /usr/src/share/doc/smm/10.named/../../../../contrib/bind/doc/bog/named.local /usr/src/share/doc/smm/10.named/../../../../contrib/bind/doc/bog/ucbhosts.rev /usr/src/share/doc/smm/10.named/../../../../contrib/bind/doc/bog/ucbhosts /usr/src/share/doc/smm/10.named/../../../../contrib/bind/doc/bog/setup.me /usr/src/share/doc/smm/10.named/../../../../contrib/bind/doc/bog/manage.me /usr/src/share/doc/smm/10.named/../../../../contrib/bind/doc/bog/build.me /usr/src/share/doc/smm/10.named/../../../../contrib/bind/doc/bog/ack.me) | gzip -cn > paper.ascii.gz groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' ===> share/doc/smm/11.timedop touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/src/share/doc/smm/11.timedop/../../../../usr.sbin/timed/SMM.doc/timedop; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -ms -o1- /usr/src/share/doc/smm/11.timedop/../../../../usr.sbin/timed/SMM.doc/timedop/timed.ms) | gzip -cn > paper.ascii.gz groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' ===> share/doc/smm/12.timed touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/src/share/doc/smm/12.timed/../../../../usr.sbin/timed/SMM.doc/timed; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -t -s -ms -o1- /usr/src/share/doc/smm/12.timed/../../../../usr.sbin/timed/SMM.doc/timed/timed.ms) | gzip -cn > paper.ascii.gz groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' ===> share/doc/smm/18.net touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/src/share/doc/smm/18.net; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -t -ms -o1- /usr/src/share/doc/smm/18.net/0.t /usr/src/share/doc/smm/18.net/1.t /usr/src/share/doc/smm/18.net/2.t /usr/src/share/doc/smm/18.net/3.t /usr/src/share/doc/smm/18.net/4.t /usr/src/share/doc/smm/18.net/5.t /usr/src/share/doc/smm/18.net/6.t /usr/src/share/doc/smm/18.net/7.t /usr/src/share/doc/smm/18.net/8.t /usr/src/share/doc/smm/18.net/9.t /usr/src/share/doc/smm/18.net/a.t /usr/src/share/doc/smm/18.net/b.t /usr/src/share/doc/smm/18.net/c.t /usr/src/share/doc/smm/18.net/d.t /usr/src/share/doc/smm/18.net/e.t /usr/src/share/doc/smm/18.net/f.t) | gzip -cn > paper.ascii.gz groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' ===> share/doc/usd ===> share/doc/usd/title touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/src/share/doc/usd/title; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -ms -o1- /usr/src/share/doc/usd/title/Title) | gzip -cn > Title.ascii.gz groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' ===> share/doc/usd/contents touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/src/share/doc/usd/contents; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -ms -o1- /usr/src/share/doc/usd/contents/contents.ms) | gzip -cn > contents.ascii.gz groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' ===> share/doc/usd/04.csh touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/src/share/doc/usd/04.csh/../../../../bin/csh/USD.doc; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -s -ms -o1- /usr/src/share/doc/usd/04.csh/../../../../bin/csh/USD.doc/tabs /usr/src/share/doc/usd/04.csh/../../../../bin/csh/USD.doc/csh.1 /usr/src/share/doc/usd/04.csh/../../../../bin/csh/USD.doc/csh.2 /usr/src/share/doc/usd/04.csh/../../../../bin/csh/USD.doc/csh.3 /usr/src/share/doc/usd/04.csh/../../../../bin/csh/USD.doc/csh.4 /usr/src/share/doc/usd/04.csh/../../../../bin/csh/USD.doc/csh.a /usr/src/share/doc/usd/04.csh/../../../../bin/csh/USD.doc/csh.g) | gzip -cn > paper.ascii.gz groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' ===> share/doc/usd/07.mail touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/src/share/doc/usd/07.mail/../../../../usr.bin/mail/USD.doc; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -t -me -o1- /usr/src/share/doc/usd/07.mail/../../../../usr.bin/mail/USD.doc/mail0.nr /usr/src/share/doc/usd/07.mail/../../../../usr.bin/mail/USD.doc/mail1.nr /usr/src/share/doc/usd/07.mail/../../../../usr.bin/mail/USD.doc/mail2.nr /usr/src/share/doc/usd/07.mail/../../../../usr.bin/mail/USD.doc/mail3.nr /usr/src/share/doc/usd/07.mail/../../../../usr.bin/mail/USD.doc/mail4.nr /usr/src/share/doc/usd/07.mail/../../../../usr.bin/mail/USD.doc/mail5.nr /usr/src/share/doc/usd/07.mail/../../../../usr.bin/mail/USD.doc/mail6.nr /usr/src/share/doc/usd/07.mail/../../../../usr.bin/mail/USD.doc/mail7.nr /usr/src/share/doc/usd/07.mail/../../../../usr.bin/mail/USD.doc/mail8.nr /usr/src/share/doc/usd/07.mail/../../../../usr.bin/mail/USD.doc/mail9.nr /usr/src/share/doc/usd/07.mail/../../../../usr.bin/mail/USD.doc/maila.nr) | gzip -cn > paper.ascii.gz groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' ===> share/doc/usd/10.exref ===> share/doc/usd/10.exref/exref touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/src/share/doc/usd/10.exref/exref/../../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/exref; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -t -ms -o1- /usr/src/share/doc/usd/10.exref/exref/../../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/exref/ex.rm) | gzip -cn > paper.ascii.gz groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' ===> share/doc/usd/10.exref/summary touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/src/share/doc/usd/10.exref/summary/../../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/exref; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -t -ms -o1- /usr/src/share/doc/usd/10.exref/summary/../../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/exref/ex.summary) | gzip -cn > summary.ascii.gz groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' ===> share/doc/usd/11.vitut touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/src/share/doc/usd/11.vitut/../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/edit; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -t -ms -o1- /usr/src/share/doc/usd/11.vitut/../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/edit/edittut.ms) | gzip -cn > paper.ascii.gz groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' ===> share/doc/usd/12.vi ===> share/doc/usd/12.vi/vi touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/src/share/doc/usd/12.vi/vi/../../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vitut; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -t -ms -o1- /usr/src/share/doc/usd/12.vi/vi/../../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vitut/vi.in /usr/src/share/doc/usd/12.vi/vi/../../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vitut/vi.chars) | gzip -cn > paper.ascii.gz groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' ===> share/doc/usd/12.vi/viapwh touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/src/share/doc/usd/12.vi/viapwh/../../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vitut; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -t -ms -o1- /usr/src/share/doc/usd/12.vi/viapwh/../../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vitut/vi.apwh.ms) | gzip -cn > viapwh.ascii.gz groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' ===> share/doc/usd/12.vi/summary touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/src/share/doc/usd/12.vi/summary/../../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vitut; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -t -ms -o1- /usr/src/share/doc/usd/12.vi/summary/../../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vitut/vi.summary) | gzip -cn > summary.ascii.gz groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' ===> share/doc/usd/13.viref sed -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ \ ]*\)\(vi.ref\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ \ ]*\)\(ex.cmd.roff\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ \ ]*\)\(ref.so\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ \ ]*\)\(set.opt.roff\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ \ ]*\)\(vi.cmd.roff\)$:\1/usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/\2:' -e 's:^\.so index.so$::' /usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref/../../../../contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.ref/vi.ref | groff -mtty-char -Tascii -t -s -me -o1- > /dev/null groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' *** Error code 3 Stop in /usr/src/share/doc/usd/13.viref. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/share/doc/usd. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/share/doc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/share. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. this is my make.conf, if this is of interest: NO_SENDMAIL= true NO_X11= yes USA_RESIDENT= NO SUP_UPDATE= yes SUP= /usr/local/bin/cvsup SUPFLAGS= -g -L 2 SUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile PORTSSUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile.local #TOP_TABLE_SIZE= 101 FORCE_PKG_REGISTER=yes RELEASETAG=RELENG_4 CHROOTDIR=/usr/local/release CVSROOT=/home/ncvs Please Cc:, I'm not subscribed to -stable any more :) Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 2:25: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.freebsd.org.uk [194.242.139.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8CA337B95B for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 02:24:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (hak.nat.Awfulhak.org [172.31.0.12]) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA96752; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:24:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA00473; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:33:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200004190733.IAA00473@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: William Denton Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Serial port problems with 4.0 In-Reply-To: Message from William Denton of "Tue, 18 Apr 2000 19:50:55 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:33:29 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think there's something peculiar happening here - casting a quick eye at datalink.h, I've got the DATALINK_CARRIER and DATALINK_LOGIN states before the DATALINK_READY state. DATALINK_READY is what you get when you ``term'', but it's possible that it's getting jammed waiting for carrier first :-( $ ppp Working in interactive mode Using interface: tun0 ppp ON hak> set device "!telnet localhost" ppp ON hak> set log local phase ppp ON hak> term Phase: bundle: Establish Phase: deflink: closed -> opening Phase: deflink: Connected! deflink: Entering terminal mode on !telnet localhost Type `~?' for help Phase: deflink: opening -> carrier Phase: deflink: carrier -> ready Trying ::1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. FreeBSD/i386 (hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) (ttyp2) login: I suspect on a real tty, this will have problems after ``opening -> carrier'' ! Does ``set cd off'' make any difference ? If it does, that's a bug. > On 13 April 2000, Marcin Cieslak wrote: > > : Most ISPs today don't use a traditinal login "terminal" login scheme, > : they instead allow ppp to put LCP packets on the wire and verify > : authentication using PAP or CHAP instead. > : > : I usually dial up manually, using "term" command and "ATDT" Hayes > : string and see if login prompt is really "login:" or perhaps > : "username:" or something else. > > Using terminal mode with 4.0 on the box, I can connect to the ISP, it says > CONNECT 115200, then nothing. When 3.4 was on the box, and with the > machine I'm on now (still 3.4 until I get this PPP thing figured out), I > get the old-fashioned login: prompt. So it seems there's something about > 4.0-RELEASE and ppp on this machine that's causing PPP to freeze up early > on so that the login prompt never arrives. The racks do give up the > prompt. > > I checked out the FAQ, and took its advice on recompiling ppp with a > couple of added options so I could run the debugger on it. Doing a stack > trace when it was sitting waiting, I got this: > > #0 0x281c1c50 in select () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 > #1 0x8068e71 in DoLoop (bundle=0x808a7e0) at main.c:534 > #2 0x8068d83 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbfbffbdc) at main.c:492 > #3 0x804af59 in _start () > > What's going on in usr.sbin/ppp/main.c is beyond me, though. > > Bill > -- > William Denton : Toronto, Canada : http://www.miskatonic.org/ : Caveat lector. -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 3:57:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from stats.matrix.ru (stats.matrix.ru [195.200.194.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4BB837BC5B for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 03:57:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from misha@matrix.ru) Received: from news.matrix.ru (news.matrix.ru [195.200.194.19]) by stats.matrix.ru with ESMTP id OAA21087 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:56:38 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from misha@matrix.ru) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:01:41 +0400 (MSD) From: Michael Vlasov To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: SUBSCRIBE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG SUBSCRIBE ------------------------------------------------- Michael Vlasov, Matrix Technologies, MICHAEL-RIPN (+7 095) 961-2109 [ www.matrix.ru ] ICQ: 12612617 ------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 4:54: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cyrus.imsc.net (cyrus.imsc.net [213.178.0.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF2C37B6FF for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 04:54:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pw@imsc.net) Received: from cyrus.imsc.net (cyrus.imsc.net [213.178.0.34]) by cyrus.imsc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10758 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 13:54:01 +0200 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 13:54:01 +0200 (MEST) From: Peter Will To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: unsubscribe Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG unsubscribe Peter Will Internet Management GmbH ---------- Hauptstrasse 40 Tel.: +49 2772 47230 35745 Herborn Fax.: +49 2772 472329 Germany To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 5: 8:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59BDD37BBBB for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 05:08:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (john [10.0.0.2]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA51604; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:08:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200004191208.IAA51604@server.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:08:44 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Simon J Mudd Subject: RE: boot on SCSI gets stuck at F1 Freebsd Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 18-Apr-00 Simon J Mudd wrote: > On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > >> On 18-Apr-00 Simon J Mudd wrote: >> > I'm having trouble booting from a SCSI disk into FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE and >> > 4.0-STABLE. >> > >> > The boot gets stuck at "F1 Freebsd" and then doesn't do anything. > >> man boot0cfg. You want to turn on packet mode in boot0 it sounds like. > > I think this is what I'm looking for. Shame there's no reference to it > in the loader or boot man pages. It's also missing some examples, but I > think this is what I'm looking for. That's because boot0 isn't really part of the FreeBSD bootstrap. It is just an extra utility used to replace the standard MBR boot loader. It is mentioned in the Handbook's section on booting. > Thanks, > > Simon > -- > Simon J Mudd, Madrid SPAIN Tel: +34-91-408 4878 email: sjmudd@pobox.com -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 6: 0:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8AF37BC9D for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 06:00:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id FAA08153; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 05:56:57 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda08151; Wed Apr 19 05:56:38 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id FAA44724; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 05:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdu44714; Wed Apr 19 05:55:54 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.10.1/8.9.1) id e3JCtr001227; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 05:55:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200004191255.e3JCtr001227@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdQM1221; Wed Apr 19 05:55:29 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Erik Trulsson , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Apr 2000 01:22:45 PDT." <4604.956046165@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 05:55:28 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <4604.956046165@zippy.cdrom.com>, "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: > > Thanks for the warning. Now I won't bother to get the 4.0 CDs since one of > > my major reasons for getting them was to get a (reasonable) up-to-date set > > of distfiles. (Downloading large distfiles over a 33.6K modem is not fun.) > > That's what the FreeBSD toolkit CD will provide. We hope to have it updated > for 4.0 very shortly. The September edition of the ToolKit had 1.5 CD's of packages and 1.5 CD's of distfiles. This will now leave us with 2 CD's of packages and 1 CD of distfiles. Since we already have packages and no distfiles on the -RELEASE CD's, shouldn't the toolkit have distfiles and no packages? Or could the -STABLE or Express Demo be replaced by packages instead? Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 6:13:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from matrix.42.org (matrix.42.org [194.246.250.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A364237B50F for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 06:13:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sec@42.org) Received: (from sec@localhost) by matrix.42.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA25919 (sender ); Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:13:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:13:32 +0200 (CEST) From: Stefan `Sec` Zehl Message-Id: <200004191313.PAA25919@matrix.42.org> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs In-Reply-To: <200004180308.NAA15105@lightning.itga.com.au> Organization: Seeking the question Cc: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <200004180308.NAA15105@lightning.itga.com.au> you write: > Just a heads-up: The 4.0 CDs from WC don't seem to contain distfiles any more > - the last two disks contain only packages (i.e. pre-compiled binaries). > > Not that I am complaining, but I did find it very useful to have the distfiles > to save long FTPs when we wanted to install stuff on Solaris! That's bad. I was aware that the CVS tree was kicked off (and i can live with that, as long as the release-source keeps beeing included.) But loosing the distfiles is just plain bad. This saved me so much download time. I hope they will be back on one of the next releases. CU, Sec -- Whatever the virtues of balance, it's just a pleasant form of insanity. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 6:35:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18A5337BCA3 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 06:35:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA39931 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:35:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:35:55 +0200 (CEST) From: "O. Hartmann" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Ports-Installation problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Since a few days I have got a problem in installing ports form the ports repository. First, I ran into much trouble installin the new libtool 1.3.4. With pkg_delete I extincted all older versions and reinstalled the newer one, but it won't work. Then, suddenly, it worked but I don't know why (maybe because of a build-world). Now I tried to fetch libtool again, but after getting the libtool.tar file, extracting and typing make, I receive the error message that fetch could not find the appropriate fiel. fetch looks for ".tar.gz" instead of "libtool-1.3.4.tar.gz". This happens to some packeges, too. The full name is not given to fetch and it seems to be a bug. Now I tried to recompile the MySQL server because after make world of yesterday mysql-client drops with coredumps for no reason (SIGNAL 11). When compiling it, I get this: Your libtool installation is out of date. Please remove and reinstall /usr/ports/devel/libtool. well, this seem to be a circle with no escape. Please help ... Gruss O. Hartmann ------------------------------------------------------------------- ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de Klimadatenserver des IPA, Universitaet Mainz Netzwerk- und Systembetreuung To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 6:43:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989D037BCAC for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 06:43:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA39031; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:43:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) From: Michael Lucas Message-Id: <200004191343.JAA39031@blackhelicopters.org> Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs In-Reply-To: <200004191313.PAA25919@matrix.42.org> from Stefan `Sec` Zehl at "Apr 19, 2000 3:13:32 pm" To: sec@42.org (Stefan `Sec` Zehl) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:43:01 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > That's bad. I was aware that the CVS tree was kicked off (and i can live with > that, as long as the release-source keeps beeing included.) > > But loosing the distfiles is just plain bad. This saved me so much download > time. I hope they will be back on one of the next releases. > Many of us would like to see them back, I'm sure. The majority of users use packages, however. Unlike FreeBSD itself the CDs are a commercial product, and have to pander to the tastes of the masses. It sounds like the Toolkit is going to be the desired "super-release": packages plus distfiles plus OS, plus any commercial demos and other goodies. It's all a question of what you want, and what you're willing to pay for. The thing to remember hereq is that there's a difference between FreeBSD and Walnut Creek (now BSDi). BSDi is simply a commercial company, out to make money like any other. They just happen to be making that cash by support us, the users and developers of FreeBSD. The fact that they plow a good chunk of their profits back into FreeBSD is lucky for us (smart on their part, yes, but lucky for us as well). Jordan is in a difficult spot, being both a BSDi employee and the FreeBSD release coordinator. He wants to do what's right for both. I don't like not getting distfiles, but I don't like any of the other choices any better. ;) I'd pay for distfiles. You'd pay for distfiles. Most people want packages, so packages are what gets put on the commercial CD. Perhaps you, I, and others like us, need to unsub from the vanilla FreeBSD subscription, and pick up a Toolkit subscription? It'll cost more, but we'll get more. ==ml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 6:48:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bsf.alcatel.fr (laposte.bsf.alcatel.fr [193.104.128.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D35E37B606 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 06:48:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sr@sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr) Received: from mail (sikkim.sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr [155.132.20.1]) by bsf.alcatel.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29036 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:55:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from piano by mail (8.8.8+Sun/ABS1.4) id PAA23930; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:47:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from charles by piano (8.8.8+Sun/ABS1.5) id PAA08898; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:47:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr by charles (8.8.8+Sun/ABS1.5) id PAA08573; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:47:51 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <38FDB905.E45BE0A1@sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:47:50 +0200 From: Sebastien ROCHE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports-Installation problems References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------02E653995BDC36456A71AD00" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --------------02E653995BDC36456A71AD00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had some of these problems too , but I have it worked finally. As far as I remember I did like this: 1) Synchronize with ports-all (all the directories) 2) type make uninstall in the directories you should recompile if it's already installed 3) make 4) If it doesn't work for any reason, don't try to understand, delete the directory (fe ports/audio/amp) and fetch the port directory (fe audio) which contains this port. Then make again. I hope it's the right method. "O. Hartmann" wrote: > Since a few days I have got a problem in installing ports form > the ports repository. First, I ran into much trouble installin the new > libtool 1.3.4. With pkg_delete I extincted all older versions and reinstalled > the newer one, but it won't work. Then, suddenly, it worked but I don't know > why (maybe because of a build-world). Now I tried to fetch libtool again, but > after getting the libtool.tar file, extracting and typing make, I receive > the error message that fetch could not find the appropriate fiel. fetch looks > for ".tar.gz" instead of "libtool-1.3.4.tar.gz". This happens to some packeges, > too. The full name is not given to fetch and it seems to be a bug. > > Now I tried to recompile the MySQL server because after make world of yesterday > mysql-client drops with coredumps for no reason (SIGNAL 11). When compiling it, > I get this: > > Your libtool installation is out of date. Please remove > and reinstall /usr/ports/devel/libtool. > > well, this seem to be a circle with no escape. Please help ... > > Gruss O. Hartmann > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de > > Klimadatenserver des IPA, Universitaet Mainz > Netzwerk- und Systembetreuung > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Sebastien ROCHE , Software Engineer ATLINKS 1 , rte Albert Schweitzer 67408 ILLKIRCH CEDEX Tel: 03 90 67 67 90 , poste 74042 Email : sr@sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr --------------02E653995BDC36456A71AD00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had some of these problems too , but I have it worked finally.
As far as I remember I did like this:

1) Synchronize with ports-all (all the directories)
2) type make uninstall in the directories you should recompile if it's already installed
3) make
4) If it doesn't work for any reason, don't try to understand, delete the directory (fe ports/audio/amp) and fetch the port directory (fe audio) which contains this port. Then make again.

I hope it's the right method.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

"O. Hartmann" wrote:

Since a few days I have got a problem in installing ports form
the ports repository. First, I ran into much trouble installin the new
libtool 1.3.4. With pkg_delete I extincted all older versions and reinstalled
the newer one, but it won't work. Then, suddenly, it worked but I don't know
why (maybe because of a build-world). Now I tried to fetch libtool again, but
after getting the libtool.tar file, extracting and typing make, I receive
the error message that fetch could not find the appropriate fiel. fetch looks
for ".tar.gz" instead of "libtool-1.3.4.tar.gz". This happens to some packeges,
too. The full name is not given to fetch and it seems to be a bug.

Now I tried to recompile the MySQL server because after make world of yesterday
mysql-client drops with coredumps for no reason (SIGNAL 11). When compiling it,
I get this:

Your libtool installation is out of date. Please remove
and reinstall /usr/ports/devel/libtool.

well, this seem to be a circle with no escape. Please help ...

Gruss O. Hartmann
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  --------------02E653995BDC36456A71AD00-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 7:26:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 214.norrgarden.se (214.norrgarden.se [195.100.133.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FDC37BC92 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 07:26:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cj@214.norrgarden.se) Received: from 214.norrgarden.se (cj@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 214.norrgarden.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA38918 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 16:26:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from cj@214.norrgarden.se) Message-Id: <200004191426.QAA38918@214.norrgarden.se> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 16:26:20 +0200 (CEST) From: Carl Johan Madestrand Subject: Mysterious audio problem To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Im using a fairly recent build of 4.0 STABLE and lately i've run across a problem which kinda freaked me out. Im using the pcm driver with my SB PCI 128 card and I have a CREATIVE CD1220 IDE CD ROM. After playing an audio cd for awhile, (this seems to happen just all of a sudden, i've been in X every time it has happened and i think i'm pretty sure i was running linux-netscape each time it occured.) What I start hearing is a sound which could be explained as dropping a pin or a can on the ground that bounces with a breeze type kind of distortion in the background. It should perhaps be noted that every time this has happened I havent been using any application to play my audio cd's, i've just used the controls on my drive. This "pindrop sound" continued even after I removed the disc from the drive and continued every 5 seconds or so, this sounds like crack smoking yes or something interfering the speakers. But the fact is that when this happens /dev/dsp becomes busy and no other processes can access the sound driver anylonger. Something is using the sound driver and the only solution seems to be a reboot. Weird? Yes, but it just keeps happening. -- - Carl Johan Madestrand - IRC: Lord_CJ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 8:19:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0528437B5AD for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:19:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA41628 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 17:20:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 17:20:07 +0200 (CEST) From: "O. Hartmann" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Intrusion detection Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sirs. Do we have in FreeBSD 4.0 a standard tool for detecting intrusion attempts? If this is the case, please tell me how to use it or otherwise please inform me where to find in the ports selection a probate tool for running on a server box. Thanks. Gruss O. Hartmann ------------------------------------------------------------------- ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de Klimadatenserver des IPA, Universitaet Mainz Netzwerk- und Systembetreuung To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 8:25:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD4037BCD6 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:25:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA39415; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:23:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) From: Michael Lucas Message-Id: <200004191523.LAA39415@blackhelicopters.org> Subject: Re: Intrusion detection In-Reply-To: from "O. Hartmann" at "Apr 19, 2000 5:20: 7 pm" To: ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (O. Hartmann) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:23:48 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Definitely check out snort (/usr/ports/security/snort). ==ml > Dear Sirs. > Do we have in FreeBSD 4.0 a standard tool for detecting intrusion attempts? > If this is the case, please tell me how to use it or otherwise please inform > me where to find in the ports selection a probate tool for running on a server box. > Thanks. > > Gruss O. Hartmann > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de > > Klimadatenserver des IPA, Universitaet Mainz > Netzwerk- und Systembetreuung > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 8:42:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server07.icaen.uiowa.edu (server07.icaen.uiowa.edu [128.255.17.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556B737B88D for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:42:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pwgreen@engineering.uiowa.edu) Received: from server01.icaen.uiowa.edu (server01.icaen.uiowa.edu [128.255.17.41]) by server07.icaen.uiowa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25101 for sent by ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:42:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from l-ecn000.icaen.uiowa.edu (pwgreen@l-ecn000.icaen.uiowa.edu [128.255.17.100]) by server01.icaen.uiowa.edu (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id KAA09563 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:42:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from pwgreen@localhost) by l-ecn000.icaen.uiowa.edu (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/client-6.6) id KAA01077; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:42:05 -0500 (CDT) Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:42:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Peter William Green To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intrusion detection In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG a small piece of this puzzle... A quick way to see connection attempts to ports which you don't use is to add log_in_vain="YES" to /etc/rc.conf this will (from man rc.conf) log_in_vain (bool) Set to NO by default. Setting to YES will enable logging of connection attempts to ports that have no listening socket on them. -pete On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, O. Hartmann wrote: > Dear Sirs. > Do we have in FreeBSD 4.0 a standard tool for detecting intrusion attempts? > If this is the case, please tell me how to use it or otherwise please inform > me where to find in the ports selection a probate tool for running on a server box. > Thanks. > > Gruss O. Hartmann > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de > > Klimadatenserver des IPA, Universitaet Mainz > Netzwerk- und Systembetreuung To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 8:59:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF3937BCBE for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:59:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11054; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:01:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Brian Somers Cc: Gregory Bond , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:43:10 BST." <200004182143.WAA00514@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:01:15 -0700 Message-ID: <11051.956160075@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Who knows? Every time I've sent an ISO image to the replicators, they come back with comments that their mastering software seems to barf and they're awaiting fixes from the manufacturer. - Jordan > > > Just a heads-up: The 4.0 CDs from WC don't seem to contain distfiles any mor > > e > > > - the last two disks contain only packages (i.e. pre-compiled binaries). > > > > That's because the number of packages got so large as to basically > > kick the distfiles off. We really need DVD to become more popular > > in end-user machines and for the replication companies to be able to > > cope with it. :) > > So when is a DVD distribution likely to be plausible ? ;-) > > > - Jordan > > -- > Brian > > Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 9: 6:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE5E37B667 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:06:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11092; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:06:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: "Southwell" Cc: "Brian Somers" , "Brad Knowles" , "Gregory Bond" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:58:14 -0800." <001601bfa99a$5a15d060$8ee346c6@demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:06:32 -0700 Message-ID: <11089.956160392@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That would not be a simple solution. There are more packaging problems with this than you've probably ever dealt with since we deal with CD sets in terms of tens-of-thousands quantities. I will continue to explore going to a 6 CD set, but that also means more work for me on every release so I'm in no particular hurry. :) - Jordan > Sure but difficulties are there to be overcome -- otherwise what the @$#% > are we doing here --!! grinz :-) > > I have managed changes in disc set so I am aware of the probs -- seems to me > that a simple solution might have been an extra CD in a cardboard sleeve!! > > David > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brad Knowles" > To: "Southwell" ; "Jordan K. Hubbard" > ; "Brian Somers" > Cc: "Gregory Bond" ; ; > > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 4:01 PM > Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs > > > > At 3:37 PM -0800 2000/4/18, Southwell wrote: > > > > > More appropriately the number of CDs could have been increased from 4 > to > > > 5 -- The set is not expensive- so an appropriate price increase would > have > > > been no obstacle.. after all people buy the CD when they do not have > access > > > to a high speed connection. Does this mean that we are permanently > limited > > > to a maximum of 4 CDs to a collection..dare I say that even MS do not > set > > > such arbitrary limits!! > > > > I may be wrong, but I'd be willing to venture a guess that > > switching from four to five CDs in the set is a much bigger change > > than you may think -- now you've got to come up with a packaging > > mechanism that can handle one or two more CDs than before, this may > > cost more money to ship, you might have to completely change from > > using plastic double jewel cases to thick paper multi-fold carriers, > > you've got increased mastering costs and time, and I'm sure there are > > a whole bunch of factors I have not yet considered. > > > > Sometimes when you add another straw, you really do break the camel's > back. > > > > -- > > These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy > > ====================================================================== > > Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV > > Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 > > Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels > > http://www.skynet.be || Belgium > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 9:14:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E867437B551 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:14:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@privatelabs.com) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (root@misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA27045 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:13:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA78615 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 12:14:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) From: Mikhail Teterin Message-Id: <200004191614.MAA78615@misha.privatelabs.com> Subject: second installworld fails To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 12:14:13 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I tried to installworld over NFS after a buildworld on one machine. Regretfully, mounting /usr/obj and /usr/src read-only is not an option -- some processing is happening at the install stage... And mounting read-write causes errors. I fixed one of them, caused by ln trying to make an already existing link: --- lib/libncurses/Makefile Thu Mar 2 03:23:23 2000 +++ lib/libncurses/Makefile Wed Apr 19 11:37:45 2000 @@ -390,4 +390,5 @@ all-man: ${page:T:S/3x$/3/g} ${page:T:S/3x$/3/g}: ${page} + rm -f ${.TARGET} ln -s ${.ALLSRC} ${.TARGET} .endfor but now the following error would not go away :( ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 miniperl /usr/bin /usr/bin/perl -> /usr/bin/miniperl ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 perl /usr/bin /usr/bin/perl5 -> /usr/bin/perl /usr/bin/perl5.00503 -> /usr/bin/perl make: don't know how to make Makefile.PL. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in ..../src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl. *** Error code 1 When yet another machine runs installworld... Could this, please, be corrected? Ideally, I'd like to be able to, may be, even burn /usr/src and /usr/obj onto a CD and upgrade machines like that (or the ro NFS). "Don't put off 'till beforinstall what can be done in all" :-) Thanks! -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 9:48:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BE437B6CF for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:48:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04464; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:47:05 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200004191647.JAA04464@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs In-Reply-To: <200004191255.e3JCtr001227@cwsys.cwsent.com> from Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group at "Apr 19, 0 05:55:28 am" To: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:47:05 -0700 (MST) Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, ertr1013@student.csd.uu.se, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > In message <4604.956046165@zippy.cdrom.com>, "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: >> That's what the FreeBSD toolkit CD will provide. We hope to have it >> updated for 4.0 very shortly. > > The September edition of the ToolKit had 1.5 CD's of packages and > 1.5 CD's of distfiles. This will now leave us with 2 CD's of > packages and 1 CD of distfiles. Since we already have packages > and no distfiles on the -RELEASE CD's, shouldn't the toolkit have > distfiles and no packages? Or could the -STABLE or Express Demo > be replaced by packages instead? I suggested some months back, but let me try again... I'd pay for a separate CD package that contained =all= the distfiles, by themselves. I know some distfiles can't be put on a CD due to restrictions by the authors. For those, there should be a script that runs fetch to complete the collection. I can burn my own CD for that residual. My desire is driven due to the bit rot that sets in to any snapshot of the ports collection. Inevitably after a release, some authors update their own site's version of a package and things stop building. I'd like to be able to freeze the complete ports collection and everything it needs to coincide with a release. If that collection were part of the toolkit, I suppose I could live with that. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 9:53:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B0237B57E for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:53:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04500; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:53:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200004191653.JAA04500@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs In-Reply-To: <200004191343.JAA39031@blackhelicopters.org> from Michael Lucas at "Apr 19, 0 09:43:01 am" To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org (Michael Lucas) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:53:26 -0700 (MST) Cc: sec@42.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Michael Lucas wrote: >> That's bad. I was aware that the CVS tree was kicked off (and i can >> live with that, as long as the release-source keeps beeing included.) >> >> But loosing the distfiles is just plain bad. This saved me so much >> download time. I hope they will be back on one of the next releases. >> > > Many of us would like to see them back, I'm sure. > > The majority of users use packages, however. Unlike FreeBSD itself > the CDs are a commercial product, and have to pander to the tastes of > the masses. I can't speak for the masses. But I use the ports/distfiles exclusively. For the same reason I like the fact that I've got the source to the operating system, and I have the source to all the user-land commands, I want the source to added packages. Call me anal, but I like the fact that there is not a single binary on this machine that I didn't build on this machine. > Perhaps you, I, and others like us, need to unsub from the vanilla > FreeBSD subscription, and pick up a Toolkit subscription? It'll cost > more, but we'll get more. That's worth a thought. I bought a Toolkit about a year ago (as part of a PowerPak, actually). Is there a clear statement of what is and what will be in future Toolkit releases? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 10: 0:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0339237BA09 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:00:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA39760; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 12:59:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) From: Michael Lucas Message-Id: <200004191659.MAA39760@blackhelicopters.org> Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs In-Reply-To: <200004191653.JAA04500@freeway.dcfinc.com> from "Chad R. Larson" at "Apr 19, 2000 9:53:26 am" To: chad@DCFinc.com Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 12:59:54 -0400 (EDT) Cc: sec@42.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Call me anal, but I like the fact that there is not a single binary > on this machine that I didn't build on this machine. Nice warm and fuzzy feeling, isn't it? > > Perhaps you, I, and others like us, need to unsub from the vanilla > > FreeBSD subscription, and pick up a Toolkit subscription? It'll cost > > more, but we'll get more. > That's worth a thought. I bought a Toolkit about a year ago (as > part of a PowerPak, actually). Is there a clear statement of what > is and what will be in future Toolkit releases? I haven't seen one. :( In fact, does anyone know if you *can* subscribe to the Toolkit? ==ml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 10: 3:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389AE37B666 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:03:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04596; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:03:29 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200004191703.KAA04596@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs In-Reply-To: <200004191659.MAA39760@blackhelicopters.org> from Michael Lucas at "Apr 19, 0 12:59:54 pm" To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org (Michael Lucas) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:03:29 -0700 (MST) Cc: sec@42.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Michael Lucas wrote: >> Call me anal, but I like the fact that there is not a single binary >> on this machine that I didn't build on this machine. > > Nice warm and fuzzy feeling, isn't it? Yep. And "make world" is the ultimate virus protection. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 10:20:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76CBC37B6CF for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:20:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1CDE896 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 13:20:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA36890; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 13:20:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14589.60116.95506.416886@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 13:20:20 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs In-Reply-To: <200004191703.KAA04596@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <200004191659.MAA39760@blackhelicopters.org> <200004191703.KAA04596@freeway.dcfinc.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "CRL" == Chad R Larson writes: CRL> Yep. And "make world" is the ultimate virus protection. Unless your compiler has a virus in it. ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 11:10:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptialaska.net (mail.ptialaska.net [198.70.245.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989B637BCD7 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:10:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vizion@ptialaska.net) Received: from vizion2000 (dialups-14.sitka.ptialaska.net [198.70.227.14]) by ptialaska.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA01929 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:10:22 -0800 (AKDT) Message-ID: <008001bfaa2a$560ffd20$0ee346c6@demon.co.uk> From: "Southwell" To: Subject: RE: IEEE 1394 Support Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:08:10 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Disposition-Notification-To: "Southwell" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just thought I would post a copy from the linux1394-devel list on this topic David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Vogl" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 1:01 AM Subject: xdv version 0.1 > Hi, > > I wrote a little utility to (partly) decode the video stream, > and packed everything into a little previewer: You can get > it at > http://voxel.at/prj/dv/ > > I have tested it with PAL 4:2:0 iso streams from our Sony camcorder > and our Como dv drive. I have no NTSC tapes, so I can't be sure, but > it _should_ work. > > btw, does anybody have a device working with the 4:1:1 coding as defined > by the SMPTE standard? I originally wrote the decoder for this scheme, and > had a hell of a time figuing out the 4:2:0 arrangement of the Macroblocks :) > > Have fun, > Simon > > > _______________________________________________ > mailing list linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/linux1394-devel > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 11:11:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09E437BCFC for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:11:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id LAA09287; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:07:05 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda09285; Wed Apr 19 11:06:56 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA05623; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdCN5620; Wed Apr 19 11:06:05 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.10.1/8.9.1) id e3JI60d01371; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200004191806.e3JI60d01371@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdlC1365; Wed Apr 19 11:05:23 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: chad@DCFinc.com Cc: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, ertr1013@student.csd.uu.se, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:47:05 PDT." <200004191647.JAA04464@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:05:23 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200004191647.JAA04464@freeway.dcfinc.com>, "Chad R. Larson" writes: > As I recall, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > In message <4604.956046165@zippy.cdrom.com>, "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: > >> That's what the FreeBSD toolkit CD will provide. We hope to have it > >> updated for 4.0 very shortly. > > > > The September edition of the ToolKit had 1.5 CD's of packages and > > 1.5 CD's of distfiles. This will now leave us with 2 CD's of > > packages and 1 CD of distfiles. Since we already have packages > > and no distfiles on the -RELEASE CD's, shouldn't the toolkit have > > distfiles and no packages? Or could the -STABLE or Express Demo > > be replaced by packages instead? > > I suggested some months back, but let me try again... > > I'd pay for a separate CD package that contained =all= the > distfiles, by themselves. I know some distfiles can't be put on a > CD due to restrictions by the authors. For those, there should be a > script that runs fetch to complete the collection. I can burn my > own CD for that residual. > > My desire is driven due to the bit rot that sets in to any snapshot > of the ports collection. Inevitably after a release, some authors > update their own site's version of a package and things stop > building. I'd like to be able to freeze the complete ports > collection and everything it needs to coincide with a release. > > If that collection were part of the toolkit, I suppose I could live > with that. I could live with either a "FreeBSD-distfiles" subscription from BSDI or distfiles and no packages in the ToolKit. Having the distfiles on the CDROM does make life a lot easier. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 11:14:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from frigga.circle.net (morrigu.circle.net [209.95.64.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1566337B5FB for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:14:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tcobb@staff.circle.net) Received: by FRIGGA with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <2SFF71ND>; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:14:19 -0400 Message-ID: From: Troy Arie Cobb To: 'Southwell' , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: IEEE 1394 Support Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:14:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a phone call out to Larry Horn, VP of Licensing for 1394LA to get a once-and-for-all determination on the patent question. -Troy Cobb, CCNA, CCDA, CCSE, MCP VP/CTO Circle Net, Inc. http://www.circle.net 1-800-321-2237 x308 > -----Original Message----- > From: Southwell [mailto:vizion@ptialaska.net] > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 2:08 PM > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: IEEE 1394 Support > > > > > Just thought I would post a copy from the linux1394-devel > list on this topic > > David > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon Vogl" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 1:01 AM > Subject: xdv version 0.1 > > > > Hi, > > > > I wrote a little utility to (partly) decode the video stream, > > and packed everything into a little previewer: You can get > > it at > > http://voxel.at/prj/dv/ > > > > I have tested it with PAL 4:2:0 iso streams from our Sony > camcorder > > and our Como dv drive. I have no NTSC tapes, so I can't > be sure, but > > it _should_ work. > > > > btw, does anybody have a device working with the 4:1:1 > coding as defined > > by the SMPTE standard? I originally wrote the decoder for > this scheme, and > > had a hell of a time figuing out the 4:2:0 arrangement of > the Macroblocks > :) > > > > Have fun, > > Simon > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > mailing list linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/linux1394-devel > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 11:17:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptialaska.net (mail.ptialaska.net [198.70.245.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF6437BD0C for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:17:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vizion@ptialaska.net) Received: from vizion2000 (dialups-14.sitka.ptialaska.net [198.70.227.14]) by ptialaska.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA04875; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:16:54 -0800 (AKDT) Message-ID: <009b01bfaa2b$3fd98980$0ee346c6@demon.co.uk> From: "Southwell" To: "Michael Lucas" , Cc: , References: <200004191659.MAA39760@blackhelicopters.org> Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:15:29 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Disposition-Notification-To: "Southwell" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Call me anal, but I like the fact that there is not a single binary > > on this machine that I didn't build on this machine. > > Nice warm and fuzzy feeling, isn't it? > > > > Perhaps you, I, and others like us, need to unsub from the vanilla > > > FreeBSD subscription, and pick up a Toolkit subscription? It'll cost > > > more, but we'll get more. > > That's worth a thought. I bought a Toolkit about a year ago (as > > part of a PowerPak, actually). Is there a clear statement of what > > is and what will be in future Toolkit releases? > > I haven't seen one. :( In fact, does anyone know if you *can* subscribe > to the Toolkit? Yep - I just did so - but am waiting for the release - so I have subscribed to both.. I would reiterate - I think it is real bad not to have increased the size of the Disk set.. > > ==ml > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 11:25: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptialaska.net (mail.ptialaska.net [198.70.245.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28DC537BB88 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:24:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vizion@ptialaska.net) Received: from vizion2000 (dialups-14.sitka.ptialaska.net [198.70.227.14]) by ptialaska.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA07822; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:22:46 -0800 (AKDT) Message-ID: <00b201bfaa2c$15345f60$0ee346c6@demon.co.uk> From: "Southwell" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: "Brian Somers" , "Brad Knowles" , "Gregory Bond" , , References: <11089.956160392@zippy.cdrom.com> Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:21:19 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Disposition-Notification-To: "Southwell" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > That would not be a simple solution. There are more packaging > problems with this than you've probably ever dealt with since we deal > with CD sets in terms of tens-of-thousands quantities. Please do not jump to conclusions GRINZ ;-) > > I will continue to explore going to a 6 CD set, but that also means > more work for me on every release so I'm in no particular hurry. :) > > - Jordan That I understand What I do not like is a change of practice without letting people know what is happening - you get the set after waiting ages for it and then find out that the Dist files are not there ...Jeez !! > > > > Sure but difficulties are there to be overcome -- otherwise what the @$#% > > are we doing here --!! grinz :-) > > > > I have managed changes in disc set so I am aware of the probs -- seems to me > > that a simple solution might have been an extra CD in a cardboard sleeve!! > > > > David > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brad Knowles" > > To: "Southwell" ; "Jordan K. Hubbard" > > ; "Brian Somers" > > Cc: "Gregory Bond" ; ; > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 4:01 PM > > Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs > > > > > > > At 3:37 PM -0800 2000/4/18, Southwell wrote: > > > > > > > More appropriately the number of CDs could have been increased from 4 > > to > > > > 5 -- The set is not expensive- so an appropriate price increase would > > have > > > > been no obstacle.. after all people buy the CD when they do not have > > access > > > > to a high speed connection. Does this mean that we are permanently > > limited > > > > to a maximum of 4 CDs to a collection..dare I say that even MS do not > > set > > > > such arbitrary limits!! > > > > > > I may be wrong, but I'd be willing to venture a guess that > > > switching from four to five CDs in the set is a much bigger change > > > than you may think -- now you've got to come up with a packaging > > > mechanism that can handle one or two more CDs than before, this may > > > cost more money to ship, you might have to completely change from > > > using plastic double jewel cases to thick paper multi-fold carriers, > > > you've got increased mastering costs and time, and I'm sure there are > > > a whole bunch of factors I have not yet considered. > > > > > > Sometimes when you add another straw, you really do break the camel's > > back. > > > > > > -- > > > These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy > > > ====================================================================== > > > Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV > > > Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 > > > Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels > > > http://www.skynet.be || Belgium > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 11:32:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E959B37BD0C for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:31:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@orion.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA20398; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:31:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:31:41 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Troy Arie Cobb Cc: "'Southwell'" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IEEE 1394 Support Message-ID: <20000419113141.A19393@orion.ac.hmc.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre4i In-Reply-To: ; from tcobb@staff.circle.net on Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 02:14:18PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 02:14:18PM -0400, Troy Arie Cobb wrote: > I have a phone call out to Larry Horn, VP of Licensing for 1394LA to get > a once-and-for-all determination on the patent question. Thank you. At least that should tell us if we can implement minimal drivers. -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 11:42:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ABF237B857 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:42:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from graab@mediaone.net) Received: from bruja (we-24-130-93-233.we.mediaone.net [24.130.93.233]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA01139 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:42:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:41:42 -0700 Message-ID: <01BFA9F4.3B8FD6E0.graab@mediaone.net> From: "Gloria C. Raab" To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: subscribe Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:41:40 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 12: 7:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptialaska.net (mail.ptialaska.net [198.70.245.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8803637B542 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 12:07:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vizion@ptialaska.net) Received: from vizion2000 (dialups-14.sitka.ptialaska.net [198.70.227.14]) by ptialaska.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA28026; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:06:56 -0800 (AKDT) Message-ID: <019d01bfaa32$3de70420$0ee346c6@demon.co.uk> From: "Southwell" To: "Brooks Davis" , "Troy Arie Cobb" Cc: References: <20000419113141.A19393@orion.ac.hmc.edu> Subject: Re: IEEE 1394 Support Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:05:28 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Disposition-Notification-To: "Southwell" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 02:14:18PM -0400, Troy Arie Cobb wrote: > > I have a phone call out to Larry Horn, VP of Licensing for 1394LA to get > > a once-and-for-all determination on the patent question. Cool - so you are aware I emailed him last week !! Lets hope that there is some response .. David > > Thank you. At least that should tell us if we can implement minimal > drivers. > > -- Brooks > > -- > Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 12:50:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F8E37BD27 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 12:50:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id MAA09619; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 12:46:07 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda09617; Wed Apr 19 12:46:02 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA06263; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 12:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdrG6258; Wed Apr 19 12:45:04 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.10.1/8.9.1) id e3JJj2h01691; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 12:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200004191945.e3JJj2h01691@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdyQ1684; Wed Apr 19 12:44:24 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: wc.bulte@chello.nl Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Christoph Sold , Erik Trulsson , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:52:14 +0200." <20000418225214.A2004@yedi.wbnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 12:44:24 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000418225214.A2004@yedi.wbnet>, Wilko Bulte writes: > On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 01:12:04PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > Anyhow, it would be _very_ nice if there could be some mechanism set up i > n > > > .../distfiles, which just symlinks to the right CD of the toolkit. This w > ay, > > > > I'm not sure there's any way to force the user to insert the right CD > > of a 6 CD toolkit for an arbitrary port. :) > > This must be a commie plot to sell more 6-disc CDchangers (which are > supported by FreeBSD just fine BTW) People, this has been discussed many times in the past. I have a relatively lengthy reply outlining how to manage using symlinks the last time this was discussed here. Search the mailing list archives to see how its done. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 13:45:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isabase.philol.msu.ru (isabase.philol.msu.ru [195.208.217.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A8037BD3A; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 13:45:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grg@isabase.philol.msu.ru) Received: (from grg@localhost) by isabase.philol.msu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.2) id AAA03200; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:45:43 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from grg) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:45:43 +0400 From: Grigoriy Strokin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: 'make' complains about /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk and fails to make ports (4.0-STABLE) Message-ID: <20000420004543.A3176@isabase.philol.msu.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD isabase.philol.msu.ru 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Thu Apr 20 00:12:54 MSD 2000 grg@isabase.philol.msu.ru:/usr/src/sys/compile/ISABASE i386 Hello, I have cvsuped fresh STABLE-4.0 today, src-all, ports-all etc. and have made make world. Now I cannot make several ports. grg@isabase.1:/usr/ports/emulators/linux_base$ make "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 447: Too many nested if's. 30 max. "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 449: Too many nested if's. 30 max. "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 449: Missing dependency operator "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 458: Too many nested if's. 30 max. "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 466: Too many nested if's. 30 max. grg@isabase.1:/usr/ports/emulators/rtc$ make "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 447: Too many nested if's. 30 max. "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 449: Too many nested if's. 30 max. "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 449: Missing dependency operator "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 458: Too many nested if's. 30 max. "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 466: Too many nested if's. 30 max. "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 471: Too many nested if's. 30 max. However, this doesn't happen with all the ports: for example, as of apache: ===> Extracting for apache-1.3.12 >> Checksum OK for apache_1.3.12.tar.gz. ... etc. The ports tree has been cvsup-ed together with all other sources. After first failure with make, I re-cvsuped all the sourced and made 'make world' again without any positive result. -- === Grigoriy Strokin, Lomonosov University (MGU), Moscow === === contact info: http://isabase.philol.msu.ru/~grg/ === To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 13:52:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns.comrax.com (dns.comrax.com [194.90.246.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDE337B6A0 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 13:52:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noor@comrax.com) Received: by dns.comrax.com (Postfix, from userid 100) id CDF9B1C99E; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:52:21 +0300 (IDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dns.comrax.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFACD16E32 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:52:21 +0300 (IDT) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:52:21 +0300 (IDT) From: To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: problems in cvsup and 4.0 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi i had a 3.4-stable system. the cvsup config file under /etc had RELENG_3 as the source branch. i change that to RELENG_4 to upgrade to 4.0-stable, then i ran cvsup. after it finished, there was no /usr/bin/make and no /usr/bin/cc, and since my config was 3.4-compatible, i couldn't as well config a new config file i created that conforms to the new 4.0 config rules. my question is: what did i do wrong that the make and the cc were erased from /usr/bin ? is this the correct way to upgrade a 3.4 system to 4.0 ? anything else would be appreciated... thanks, Noor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 14:12:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A7337BD34; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:12:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA50147; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:12:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:12:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: noor@comrax.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems in cvsup and 4.0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 19 Apr 2000 noor@comrax.com wrote: > i had a 3.4-stable system. the cvsup config file under /etc had RELENG_3 > as the source branch. i change that to RELENG_4 to upgrade to 4.0-stable, > then i ran cvsup. > > after it finished, there was no /usr/bin/make and no /usr/bin/cc, and > since my config was 3.4-compatible, i couldn't as well config a new config > file i created that conforms to the new 4.0 config rules. > > my question is: > > what did i do wrong that the make and the cc were erased from /usr/bin ? Absolutely no idea. I can only guess that your make and cc were missing before the cvsup, as cvsup won't even look at them. > is this the correct way to upgrade a 3.4 system to 4.0 ? It's a correct first step..you then have to rebuild the sources, as described in the new /usr/src/UPDATING file. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 14:15:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0166A37B615; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:15:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA50345; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:15:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:15:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: "O. Hartmann" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports-Installation problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, O. Hartmann wrote: > after getting the libtool.tar file, extracting and typing make, I receive > the error message that fetch could not find the appropriate fiel. fetch looks > for ".tar.gz" instead of "libtool-1.3.4.tar.gz". This happens to some packeges, > too. The full name is not given to fetch and it seems to be a bug. The ports collection has just gone through an internal change - it looks like part or all of your copy is out of sync. re-cvsup, being sure to include the "ports-base" collection (or just "ports-all"), and try again. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 15: 9:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B85237B542 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:09:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA54872; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 17:09:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 17:09:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Dillon To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Brian Somers , Brad Knowles , Gregory Bond , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs In-Reply-To: <11089.956160392@zippy.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > That would not be a simple solution. There are more packaging > problems with this than you've probably ever dealt with since we deal > with CD sets in terms of tens-of-thousands quantities. > > I will continue to explore going to a 6 CD set, but that also means > more work for me on every release so I'm in no particular hurry. :) How about using 80-minute/700MB discs? It would only let you squeeze in another 50MB/disc, but that would mean an extra 200MB for the 4-CD set. Apparently this is what Microsoft and many others have been doing for a while now. -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For Intel x86 and Alpha architectures. ( http://www.freebsd.org ) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 16:50: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kronos.usol.com (kronos.usol.com [208.232.58.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A2937B75A for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 16:50:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from johngnu@usol.com) Received: from aphex (01-035.028.popsite.net [216.126.180.35]) by kronos.usol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e3JNo1E03382 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 19:50:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200004192350.e3JNo1E03382@kronos.usol.com> Date: Wed Apr 19 15:53:20 2000 From: John.B.Mastro@kronos.usol.com, "Jr." To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: buildworld Reply-To: johngnu@usol.com X-Mailer: Spruce 0.4.9f for X11 w/smtpio 0.6.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I'm running FreeBSD-RELEASE and trying to FreeBSD-STABLE. Of course, make buildworld is the way to do this, and I've done it without a problem many a time before. Now, however, I get tons of errors... it complains of missing headers, which are on my box, but not in the subdir of the source files that are looking for them, and if i put them in those dirs, it will build that part fine, but inevitably runs into another instance of the same problem. Note that I've re-installed the source twice, cvsuped, etc, and that this still occurs. The only thing that comes to mind which is different from when buildworld worked fine is that i'm running a new harddrive: ad0: 9787MB [19885/16/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33 I don't know how that would cause errors or how I would fix them or anything, or even if that's the source of the problem, which is why I joined this list :) So, any help is very greatly appreciated. John B. Mastro, Jr. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 17:41:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pathlink.net (linda.pathlink.com [165.113.238.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46A537BD5A for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 17:41:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kachun@pathlink.com) Received: from dvl-1 (dvl-1.pathlink.com [207.211.168.211]) by pathlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA61579 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 17:41:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kachun@pathlink.com) Message-Id: <200004200041.RAA61579@pathlink.net> X-Sender: kachun@linda.pathlink.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 17:41:38 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Kachun Lee Subject: Cannot change ps command Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just upgraded one of our servers from RELENG_3 to RELENG_4. The upgrade ran without any gitch. However, I noticed that 'ps' would not display the changed command. I wrote a little test program to try changing the ps command by writing direct to argv[0] and used setproctitle, but either of them seemed to work. I tried with perl also (perl -e '$0="New title";sleep(120)'&) and that did not work either. Any insight on this problem? Best regards To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 18:31:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gershwin.tera.com (gershwin.tera.com [207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB7B037BD84 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 18:31:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (tao.sea.tera.com [207.108.223.55]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA13234; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 18:23:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.9.3/8.7.3) id SAA33235; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 18:21:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 18:21:41 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Chris Dillon Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Brian Somers , Brad Knowles , Gregory Bond , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs Message-ID: <20000419182141.A33170@tao.thought.org> References: <11089.956160392@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us on Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 05:09:01PM -0500 X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 05:09:01PM -0500, Chris Dillon wrote: > On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > That would not be a simple solution. There are more packaging > > problems with this than you've probably ever dealt with since we deal > > with CD sets in terms of tens-of-thousands quantities. > > > > I will continue to explore going to a 6 CD set, but that also means > > more work for me on every release so I'm in no particular hurry. :) > > How about using 80-minute/700MB discs? It would only let you squeeze > in another 50MB/disc, but that would mean an extra 200MB for the 4-CD > set. Apparently this is what Microsoft and many others have been > doing for a while now. > This may be a wee bit obvious, but how about compressing everything on all 4 CD's--except perhaps the *.TXT files or recompressing everything with bzip2? Seems to me that there's a more reasonable solution than going to 5 or 6 disks... gary > -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 18:50: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sparenix.metronet.com (sparenix.metronet.com [207.170.106.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 280BB37B776 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 18:50:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmanley@metronet.com) Received: (qmail 31390 invoked by uid 7770); 20 Apr 2000 03:13:12 -0000 Received: from fcn105-32.tmi.net (HELO jwmhome) (207.170.105.32) by sparenix.metronet.com with SMTP; 20 Apr 2000 03:13:12 -0000 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000419204414.00a51ce0@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: jmanley/mail.metronet.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 20:51:06 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Jim Manley Subject: kerberos5 port won't build Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cvsup'd the ports collection last night and tried to build krb5-1.1.1. The make dies saying it can't find the distribution even though I've put the krb5-1.1.1.tar file in /usr/ports/distfiles. I ran "make -ds" (amazing what you can find in the man pages) and got the following error message: SuffFindDeps (do-fetch) No known suffix on do-fetch. Using .NULL suffix not adding suffix rules. then it prints out the "go get the distribution file" message. I'm no C hacker so I can only surmise their is something missing somewhere. I've plowed through the email archives (both -questions and -security) as well as the FAQ and didn't find anything about this. Oh yeah, I'm running 3.4-stable last cvsup'd on 4/17. Regards, Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 19:16:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from odin.egate.net (as2.dm.egate.net [216.235.1.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C2737B830 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 19:16:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from buff@pobox.com) Received: from localhost (buff@localhost) by odin.egate.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA18637; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 22:16:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: odin.egate.net: buff owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 22:16:33 -0400 (EDT) From: William Denton X-Sender: buff@odin.egate.net To: Brian Somers Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Serial port problems with 4.0 In-Reply-To: <200004190733.IAA00473@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 19 April 2000, Brian Somers wrote: : I suspect on a real tty, this will have problems after ``opening -> : carrier'' ! Does ``set cd off'' make any difference ? If it does, : that's a bug. Here's a dump of a ppp session: bash-2.03# ppp Working in interactive mode Using interface: tun0 ppp ON mrs-hudson> set log local phase ppp ON mrs-hudson> term Phase: bundle: Establish Phase: deflink: closed -> opening Phase: deflink: Connected! deflink: Entering terminal mode on /dev/cuaa0 Type `~?' for help Phase: deflink: opening -> carrier Phase: deflink: /dev/cuaa0 doesn't support CD Phase: deflink: carrier -> ready atdt3418903 CONNECT 115200 ppp ON mrs-hudson> close Phase: deflink: Disconnected! Phase: deflink: Connect time: 91 secs: 0 octets in, 0 octets out Phase: total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0 bytes/sec on Wed Apr 19 21:55:55 2000 Phase: deflink: ready -> closed Phase: bundle: Dead ppp ON mrs-hudson> set cd off ppp ON mrs-hudson> term Phase: bundle: Establish Phase: deflink: closed -> opening Phase: deflink: Redial timer expired. Phase: deflink: Connected! deflink: Entering terminal mode on /dev/cuaa0 Type `~?' for help Phase: deflink: opening -> carrier Phase: deflink: carrier -> ready atdt3418903 CONNECT 115200 In ppp.log on my other machine (3.4 where it's all fine), I see lines like, "tun0: Phase: deflink: /dev/cuaa1: CD detected." So what's up with the carrier detect here, I don't know. Bill -- William Denton : Toronto, Canada : http://www.miskatonic.org/ : Caveat lector. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 19:30:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26A037BD75 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 19:30:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA05835; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 19:30:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200004200230.TAA05835@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: problems in cvsup and 4.0 In-Reply-To: from "noor@comrax.com" at "Apr 19, 0 11:52:21 pm" To: noor@comrax.com Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 19:30:09 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, noor@comrax.com wrote: > > i had a 3.4-stable system. the cvsup config file under /etc had RELENG_3 > as the source branch. i change that to RELENG_4 to upgrade to 4.0-stable, > then i ran cvsup. > [snip] > is this the correct way to upgrade a 3.4 system to 4.0 ? You did the right first step, suping RELENG_4. Now go read /usr/src/UPDATING, which the sup should have installed. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 19:33:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37FD137B92A for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 19:33:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from binderj@earthlink.net) Received: from earthlink.net (sdn-ar-002catpalP033.dialsprint.net [206.133.188.145]) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA07150 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200004200233.TAA07150@falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 19:33:11 -0700 (PDT) From: binderj@earthlink.net Subject: SB16 in 4.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a soundblaster 16 card which works in linux and was working in 4.0-CURRENT and 5.0-CURRENT; and then the electricity went off. I could not mount /usr so I saved /usr/local and /home while in linux with FBSD mounted. I then installed 4.0-RELEASE and have not been able to get sound working again with the same settings I had. I have the SBC0 and PCM0 non-pnp lines from LINT in the kernel config. Each one is using IRQ 9 and 0x15 flags. I've remade /dev a few times and all the devices listed in MAKEDEV are there, as in DSP0, DSPw0, SNDSTAT etc. On startup SBC0 and PCM1 on SBC0 are reported, with IRQ9 and DRQ 1, 5. I've tried IRQ 9 on PCM0 and 5 on SBC0 with no luck.Tried 0x0 flags on PCM0 and 0x15 flags on SBC0. Again no luck. SNDSTAT reports Installed Devices PCM1... and the rest of the info about PCM1 as described in /usr/src/sys/dev/pcm/sound.c Running play always gives "sox:cannot open output file /dev/dsp device not configured." Same thing for rec except then it's input file. If I run the command "mixer" I get the "device not configured" stuff. xmms also gives the 'not configured." There must be something I'm not doing but I can't think of anything I did differently when it was working. I would like to learn what are the exact steps to configure sound if different from what I've done. Jim Binder To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 20:43:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from super-g.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A2F37B92A for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 20:43:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: by super-g.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 90104B750; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:43:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 77C45B74F for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:43:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:43:35 -0400 (EDT) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4.0/stable and Cyrix Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, First of all, I'm really impressed with 4.0. Very few problems on both of the home boxes I've tried it on... My one question is this. I bought a cheapo ($250) E-Machines box with a Cyrix MII-333MHz chip. Install was flawless, and it's been working great, but looking back at 'dmesg' I see that it thinks the processor is running at 250MHz. BIOS reports it as 333 at startup (AMI winbios, btw). Here's the top of dmesg: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #3: Wed Apr 12 01:31:10 EDT 2000 root@bigpoop.fasttrackmonkey.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BIGPOOP Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193140 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 250048177 Hz CPU: Cyrix 6x86MX (250.05-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "CyrixInstead" Id = 0x601 Stepping = 1 DIR=0x1453 Features=0x80a135 real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) avail memory = 29810688 (29112K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02f4000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc02f409c. Any ideas? On a completely unrelated note, the BIOS on this box has a big "E-Machines" splash page, anyone know if it's possible to dump the bios, modify, and reflash without a burner? Thanks, Charles --- Charles Sprickman spork@super-g.com --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 20:47:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A0F37B6E3 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 20:47:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA63724; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 21:47:39 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id VAA05489; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 21:47:02 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200004200347.VAA05489@harmony.village.org> To: spork Subject: Re: 4.0/stable and Cyrix Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:43:35 EDT." References: Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 21:47:02 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message spork writes: : On a completely unrelated note, the BIOS on this box has a big : "E-Machines" splash page, anyone know if it's possible to dump the bios, : modify, and reflash without a burner? Yes. Complete instructions for doing this are available at many of the iopener web sites for replacing the iopener image with a penguin or daemon.... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 21:27: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pi.yip.org (yip.org [199.45.111.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90E437BDA5 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 21:26:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Received: from localhost (melange@localhost) by pi.yip.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA80109; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:26:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:26:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob K X-Sender: melange@localhost To: spork Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.0/stable and Cyrix In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, spork wrote: > Cyrix MII-333MHz chip. Install was flawless, and it's been working great, > but looking back at 'dmesg' I see that it thinks the processor is running > at 250MHz. BIOS reports it as 333 at startup (AMI winbios, btw). > CPU: Cyrix 6x86MX (250.05-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "CyrixInstead" Id = 0x601 Stepping = 1 DIR=0x1453 > Features=0x80a135 > > Any ideas? Hmm. Does Cyrix still "PR" (Pentium-Rate) their chips? Might it be possible that 333 is the PR rating? I could be completely wrong, however. -- Bob "Reality is the only word in the language that should always be used in quotes" - My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult sample To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 21:34: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from adsl-151-197-201-5.bellatlantic.net (adsl-151-197-201-5.bellatlantic.net [151.197.201.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD07E37BD5A for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 21:34:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bleez@bellatlantic.net) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by adsl-151-197-201-5.bellatlantic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA00399; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:33:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bleez@bellatlantic.net) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:33:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Bryan Liesner X-Sender: root@adsl-151-197-201-5.bellatlantic.net To: Bob K Cc: spork , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.0/stable and Cyrix In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Bob K wrote: >On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, spork wrote: > >> Cyrix MII-333MHz chip. Install was flawless, and it's been working great, >> but looking back at 'dmesg' I see that it thinks the processor is running >> at 250MHz. BIOS reports it as 333 at startup (AMI winbios, btw). > >> CPU: Cyrix 6x86MX (250.05-MHz 686-class CPU) >> Origin = "CyrixInstead" Id = 0x601 Stepping = 1 DIR=0x1453 >> Features=0x80a135 >> >> Any ideas? > >Hmm. Does Cyrix still "PR" (Pentium-Rate) their chips? Might it be >possible that 333 is the PR rating? > >I could be completely wrong, however. > >-- >Bob >"Reality is the only word in the language that should always be used > in quotes" - My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult sample > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > ========================================================== = Bryan D. Liesner LeezSoft Communications, Inc. = = A subsidiary of LeezSoft Inc. = = bleez@bellatlantic.net Home of the Gipper = ========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 21:44:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kwanon.research.canon.com.au (kwanon.research.canon.com.au [203.12.172.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F229137BDB2 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 21:44:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from iain@research.canon.com.au) Received: (qmail 10622 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2000 04:44:28 -0000 Received: from bellmann.research.canon.com.au (203.12.175.190) by kwanon-heat.research.canon.com.au with SMTP; 20 Apr 2000 04:44:28 -0000 Received: from elph.research.canon.com.au (elph.research.canon.com.au [203.12.174.253]) by bellmann.research.canon.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id E68CE8B02; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:44:20 +1000 (EST) Received: from elph.research.canon.com.au (elph.research.canon.com.au [10.2.0.253]) by elph.research.canon.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D75E3C970; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:44:23 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:44:23 +1000 (EST) From: Iain Templeton To: Bob K Cc: spork , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.0/stable and Cyrix In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Bob K wrote: > On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, spork wrote: > > > Cyrix MII-333MHz chip. Install was flawless, and it's been working great, > > but looking back at 'dmesg' I see that it thinks the processor is running > > at 250MHz. BIOS reports it as 333 at startup (AMI winbios, btw). > > > CPU: Cyrix 6x86MX (250.05-MHz 686-class CPU) > > Origin = "CyrixInstead" Id = 0x601 Stepping = 1 DIR=0x1453 > > Features=0x80a135 > > > > Any ideas? > > Hmm. Does Cyrix still "PR" (Pentium-Rate) their chips? Might it be > possible that 333 is the PR rating? > > I could be completely wrong, however. > Possibly, I have seen the same CPU and it was set for 333MHz (66.6 x 5 or 83.3 x 4 or something that works out to be 333 anyway). It does seem to perform fast enough to be a 333MHz chip rather than a 250MHz chip (at least compared to my PII-233 it took <3hrs compared to more than 4hrs for a buildworld, but that might be something else as well). Iain To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 21:49:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.128.1.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 738D837BDE3 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 21:49:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pulsifer@mediaone.net) Received: from ahp3 (ahp.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.184.250]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA07697; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:49:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Allen Pulsifer" To: "spork" Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: RE: 4.0/stable and Cyrix Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:49:20 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Technically (or should I say Marketingly), its called the Cyrix MII-333, without the "MHz". It actually does run at 250 MHz. The "333" is its "PR" number, also known as its "Performance Rating". A PR of 333 means it is equivalent in speed to a 333 MHz Pentium II, even though it only runs at 250 MHz. Allen > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of spork > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 11:44 PM > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: 4.0/stable and Cyrix > > > Hi, > > First of all, I'm really impressed with 4.0. Very few problems on both of > the home boxes I've tried it on... > > My one question is this. I bought a cheapo ($250) E-Machines box with a > Cyrix MII-333MHz chip. Install was flawless, and it's been working great, > but looking back at 'dmesg' I see that it thinks the processor is running > at 250MHz. BIOS reports it as 333 at startup (AMI winbios, btw). > > Here's the top of dmesg: > > FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #3: Wed Apr 12 01:31:10 EDT 2000 > root@bigpoop.fasttrackmonkey.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BIGPOOP > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193140 Hz > Timecounter "TSC" frequency 250048177 Hz > CPU: Cyrix 6x86MX (250.05-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "CyrixInstead" Id = 0x601 Stepping = 1 DIR=0x1453 > Features=0x80a135 > real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) > avail memory = 29810688 (29112K bytes) > Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02f4000. > Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc02f409c. > > Any ideas? > > On a completely unrelated note, the BIOS on this box has a big > "E-Machines" splash page, anyone know if it's possible to dump the bios, > modify, and reflash without a burner? > > Thanks, > > Charles > > --- > Charles Sprickman > spork@super-g.com > --- > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 21:50:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from adsl-151-197-201-5.bellatlantic.net (adsl-151-197-201-5.bellatlantic.net [151.197.201.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9020B37B823 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 21:50:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bleez@bellatlantic.net) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by adsl-151-197-201-5.bellatlantic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA00424; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:50:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bleez@bellatlantic.net) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:50:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Bryan Liesner X-Sender: root@adsl-151-197-201-5.bellatlantic.net To: spork Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.0/stable and Cyrix In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, spork wrote: >Hi, > >First of all, I'm really impressed with 4.0. Very few problems on both of >the home boxes I've tried it on... > >My one question is this. I bought a cheapo ($250) E-Machines box with a >Cyrix MII-333MHz chip. Install was flawless, and it's been working great, >but looking back at 'dmesg' I see that it thinks the processor is running >at 250MHz. BIOS reports it as 333 at startup (AMI winbios, btw). Cyrix chips are "performance rated" - they don't actually run at 333. The MII 333 is designed to run at 83Mhz external x 3 internal multiplier = 249Mhz. The performance is pretty close to the Celeron 333. I'm running here flawlwssly with the same processor. ========================================================== = Bryan D. Liesner LeezSoft Communications, Inc. = = A subsidiary of LeezSoft Inc. = = bleez@bellatlantic.net Home of the Gipper = ========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 22:33:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E8937BDC9 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 22:33:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@billy-club.village.org) Received: from billy-club.village.org (billy-club.village.org [10.0.0.3]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA64068; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:33:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@billy-club.village.org) Received: from billy-club.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by billy-club.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA11062; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:32:25 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200004200532.XAA11062@billy-club.village.org> To: Iain Templeton Subject: Re: 4.0/stable and Cyrix Cc: Bob K , spork , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:44:23 +1000." References: Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:32:25 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Iain Templeton writes: : It does seem to perform fast enough to be a 333MHz chip rather than a : 250MHz chip (at least compared to my PII-233 it took <3hrs compared to : more than 4hrs for a buildworld, but that might be something else as : well). Maybe it is just a bug in FreeBSD's MHz calc routines for this chip. FreeBSD measures this value by counting the number of iterations through a loop. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 22:35: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD8D37B6E3 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 22:34:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@billy-club.village.org) Received: from billy-club.village.org (billy-club.village.org [10.0.0.3]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA64077 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:34:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@billy-club.village.org) Received: from billy-club.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by billy-club.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA11111 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:34:00 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200004200534.XAA11111@billy-club.village.org> Subject: Re: 4.0/stable and Cyrix To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:32:25 MDT." <200004200532.XAA11062@billy-club.village.org> References: <200004200532.XAA11062@billy-club.village.org> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:34:00 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200004200532.XAA11062@billy-club.village.org> Warner Losh writes: : Maybe it is just a bug in FreeBSD's MHz calc routines for this chip. : FreeBSD measures this value by counting the number of iterations : through a loop. Never mind. I see in other posts this is bogus. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 22:48:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns1.draventech.com (brimstone.draventech.com [63.224.149.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A43C37B7F3 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 22:48:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@draventech.com) Received: (qmail 9660 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2000 06:17:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO DEMON) (192.168.0.150) by dns1.draventech.com with SMTP; 20 Apr 2000 06:17:14 -0000 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 22:48:39 -0700 From: "Greg S. Wirth" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.42 Beta/18) Personal Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <10335665942.20000419224839@draventech.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello... Pardon me if this post is inappropriate for here. I would just like to say a couple things about this OS. I come from many years of MS use. I had never used any flavor of UNIX or Linux or anything except OS/2. I bought the 3.3 release CD's from Walnut Creek. Install was actually quite easy, which is not what I had been led to believe. After about 3 weeks of learning, reading these news groups, and others, I have been able to successfully complete an FTP install of 4.0 release, download and compile IPFilter, setup a tight, working rule-set and implement ipnat. I have now set it up on our network. I am now doing with a "free" OS, what one would have had to spend large amounts of money to accomplish with MS. Cost is not the only issue, I am also amazed at the control one has over the OS. My only wish now is that I hadn't clouded my mind with so many years of BS, errrr MS..... I would just like to say Thank You to all the people who have put effort into FreeBSD. - -- Greg S. Wirth Draven Technologies greg@draventech.com www.draventech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 19 23:19: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from super-g.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCCA37B5CE for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:18:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: by super-g.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 02CEEB754; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 02:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.com (Postfix) with SMTP id DC992B741; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 02:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 02:18:57 -0400 (EDT) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: Iain Templeton Cc: Bob K , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.0/stable and Cyrix In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Iain Templeton wrote: > Possibly, I have seen the same CPU and it was set for 333MHz (66.6 x 5 > or 83.3 x 4 or something that works out to be 333 anyway). Going by the jumper settings and the BIOS, it's 333MHz... > It does seem to perform fast enough to be a 333MHz chip rather than a > 250MHz chip (at least compared to my PII-233 it took <3hrs compared to > more than 4hrs for a buildworld, but that might be something else as > well). I may be cheating, as I've enabled soft updates, but build/installworld took 174 minutes. And that's with this thing as-is, 32MB, and a Seagate(!?) IDE drive. I'm not complaining, it beats the old firewall/beatbox AMD "133" box by a long shot. For $250... hey... Thanks all, Charles > Iain > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 1:51:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apoq.skynet.be (apoq.skynet.be [195.238.2.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C4837B572 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 01:51:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by apoq.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4841F29D; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 10:51:35 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20000419182141.A33170@tao.thought.org> References: <11089.956160392@zippy.cdrom.com> <20000419182141.A33170@tao.thought.org> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 10:10:34 +0200 To: Gary Kline , Chris Dillon From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: distfiles no longer on 4.0 CDs Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Brian Somers , Gregory Bond , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 6:21 PM -0700 2000/4/19, Gary Kline wrote: > This may be a wee bit obvious, but how about compressing everything > on all 4 CD's--except perhaps the *.TXT files or recompressing > everything with bzip2? The idea of using bzip2 has been discussed before, see the archives. I may be wrong, but I'd be willing to guess that most of the stuff that can be compressed already has been (with gzip, which has a nice library for using it, and which lends itself much more easily to being used on a variety of platforms with a varying amount of RAM, CPU power, etc...). > Seems to me that there's a more reasonable solution than going to > 5 or 6 disks... While we can discuss the nature of how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, and we can offer our advice to Jordan, ultimately he is the one that has to make the decision of what goes and what stays, and whether or not we add more CDs to the distribution, etc.... -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 1:58: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6517F37B8CA; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 01:57:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca1-64.ix.netcom.com [209.109.232.64]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06992; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:57:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.6.9) id BAA12644; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 01:57:43 -0700 (PDT) To: Grigoriy Strokin Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 'make' complains about /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk and fails to make ports (4.0-STABLE) References: <20000420004543.A3176@isabase.philol.msu.ru> From: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Date: 20 Apr 2000 01:57:42 -0700 In-Reply-To: Grigoriy Strokin's message of "Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:45:43 +0400" Message-ID: Lines: 40 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.6 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * From: Grigoriy Strokin * grg@isabase.1:/usr/ports/emulators/linux_base$ make * * "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 447: Too many nested if's. 30 max. : * The ports tree has been cvsup-ed together with all other sources. * After first failure with make, I re-cvsuped all the sourced * and made 'make world' again without any positive result. That is very weird. Line 447 is the first .if (in fact the first non-comment line other than the maintainer) in bsd.port.mk. You should have a loop somewhere. Can you send me the result of "make -d d" (or look at the output and debug it yourself)? The first dozen lines or so should look something like this: === # make -d d Caching /usr/share/mk...done expanding "sys.mk".../usr/share/mk/sys.mk Searching for /etc/make.conf...Looking for "/etc/make.conf"...Caching 12:24:37 Feb 23, 2000 for /etc/make.conf Searching for /etc/make.conf...Looking for "/etc/make.conf"...got it (in mtime cache) Searching for /etc/make.conf.local...Looking for "/etc/make.conf.local"...failed. Returning NULL Searching for bsd.own.mk...failed. Searching for bsd.own.mk...failed. Searching for bsd.own.mk.../usr/share/mk...here...returning /usr/share/mk/bsd.own.mk Searching for /etc/objformat...Looking for "/etc/objformat"...Caching 3:51:30 Jan 4, 1999 for /etc/objformat Searching for /etc/objformat...Looking for "/etc/objformat"...got it (in mtime cache) Searching for makefile...failed. Searching for makefile.../usr/share/mk...failed. Searching for bsd.port.mk...failed. Searching for bsd.port.mk...failed. Searching for bsd.port.mk.../usr/share/mk...here...returning /usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk Searching for /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk...Looking for "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk"...Caching 1:12:39 Apr 20, 2000 for /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk Searching for /sbin/sysctl...Looking for "/sbin/sysctl"...Caching 16:46:02 Jul 29, 1999 for /sbin/sysctl : === Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 5: 7:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.enteract.com (mail.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E8837BDD6 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 05:07:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@nasby.net) Received: from nasby.net (sysnasby@2.nasby.dsl.enteract.com [216.80.51.18]) by mail.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA84837 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 07:07:42 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jim@nasby.net) Message-ID: <38FEF308.1C6783CB@nasby.net> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 07:07:36 -0500 From: "Jim C. Nasby" Organization: distributed.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-US,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: /etc/security checking wrong file for login failures? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On my 4.0-stable system (last cvsup'd Mar 28), this is the end of /etc/security (I broke the zcat line across two lines for this email): echo "${host} login failures:" zcat -f $LOG/messages.0* $LOG/messages | grep -i \ "^$yesterday.*login failure" # Show tcp_wrapper warning messages # separator echo "${host} refused connections:" zcat -f $LOG/messages.0* $LOG/messages | grep -i \ "^$yesterday.*refused connect" Shouldn't it be checking $LOG/messages instead of messages.0*? The default newsyslog.conf on this system rotates /var/log/messages when it hits 100k; maybe /etc/security is expecting it to be rotated daily. I think the following would solve this: echo "${host} login failures:" if [ -f $LOG/messages ]; then grep -i "^$yesterday.*login failure" $LOG/messages if [ -f $LOG/messages.0* ]; then zcat -f $LOG/messages.0* $LOG/messages | grep -i \ "^$yesterday.*login failure" fi else echo "$LOG/messages does not exist!" fi # Show tcp_wrapper warning messages # separator echo "${host} refused connections:" if [ -f $LOG/messages ]; then grep -i "^$yesterday.*refused connect" $LOG/messages if [ -f $LOG/messages.0* ]; then zcat -f $LOG/messages.0* $LOG/messages | grep -i \ "^$yesterday.*refused connect" fi else echo "$LOG/messages does not exist!" fi Again, I split the zcat line for this email. I guess I should probaby have done a PR on this, but I wasn't sure if there was a good reason for the way things were setup that was escaping me. -- Jim C. Nasby (aka Decibel!) /^\ jim@nasby.net /___\ Freelance lighting designer and database developer / | \ Member: Triangle Fraternity, Sports Car Club of America /___|___\ Give your computer some brain candy! www.distributed.net Team #1828 Get paid to surf!! http://www.enteract.com/~nasby/alladvantage.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 5:26:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA3137BDEA for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 05:26:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@privatelabs.com) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (root@misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA03383; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 07:25:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from privatelabs.com (mi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06154; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 08:26:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@privatelabs.com) From: mi@privatelabs.com Message-Id: <200004201226.IAA06154@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 08:26:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: SB16 in 4.0 To: binderj@earthlink.net Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200004200233.TAA07150@falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 19 Apr, binderj@earthlink.net wrote: = Running play always gives "sox:cannot open output file /dev/dsp device = not configured." Same thing for rec except then it's input file. If I = run the command "mixer" I get the "device not configured" stuff. xmms = also gives the 'not configured." = = There must be something I'm not doing but I can't think of anything I = did differently when it was working. Is it possible, /dev/dsp points to dsp0? It seems, you need it to point to dsp1: cd /dev sh MAKEDEV snd1 I don't know where the (unusable) pcm0 comes from... -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 6:17:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rivendell.apana.org.au (rivendell.apana.org.au [203.3.126.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4952837BDB0 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 06:16:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phil@rivendell.apana.org.au) Received: (from phil@localhost) by rivendell.apana.org.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA32119; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 23:15:54 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from phil) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 23:15:53 +1000 From: Phil Homewood To: "Jim C. Nasby" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /etc/security checking wrong file for login failures? Message-ID: <20000420231553.A7457@rivendell.apana.org.au> References: <38FEF308.1C6783CB@nasby.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <38FEF308.1C6783CB@nasby.net>; from jim@nasby.net on Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 07:07:36AM -0500 X-PGP-Key-ID: 1024/EDE1CCB5 1996/02/26 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 86 B5 37 9D 5B ED EC BB 7C 0D B5 D6 C2 45 13 F1 X-PGP-Public-Key-Finger: phil@rivendell.apana.org.au X-PGP-Public-Key-URL: http://rivendell.apana.org.au/~phil/pgp.asc Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Jim C. Nasby wrote: > zcat -f $LOG/messages.0* $LOG/messages | grep -i \ > Shouldn't it be checking $LOG/messages It is. > instead of messages.0*? The It's checking *both*. Read above line carefully. -- Phil Homewood dot@atat.dotat.org phil@rivendell.apana.org.au Member, Australian Public Access Network Association --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia iQCVAwUBOP8DCE3NkkPt4cy1AQFKJQQAo5/D04/Y0NUmgPbhAyR8uqp89k15CVSd XJUB6FONqnV+0TdluWO1B9SJhMq/2Ceegw+cYCdjYv9LeF1oHm2GQii+L8YGu/Vc 39z9Ypce8o79aDdzfi8AAtLbxlcjWk6IKydvoEei4Y049fvwBFbM08YqaHS0tOaa jS7xi+Zt1vY= =vdiJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 7:25:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw.nectar.com (gw.nectar.com [209.98.143.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D377F37B8B5 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 07:25:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nectar@nectar.com) Received: by gw.nectar.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E20FD2435BC; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:25:16 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:25:16 -0500 From: "Jacques A . Vidrine" To: Jim Manley Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kerberos5 port won't build Message-ID: <20000420092516.A81711@spawn.nectar.com> References: <4.2.2.20000419204414.00a51ce0@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000419204414.00a51ce0@127.0.0.1>; from jmanley@metronet.com on Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 08:51:06PM -0500 X-Url: http://www.nectar.com/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 08:51:06PM -0500, Jim Manley wrote: > I cvsup'd the ports collection last night and tried to build > krb5-1.1.1. The make dies saying it can't find the distribution > even though I've put the krb5-1.1.1.tar file in /usr/ports/distfiles. ``works here'' % uname -r 3.3-STABLE % ls -l /usr/ports/distfiles/krb5-1.1.1.tar -rw-r--r-- 1 nectar nectar 5231104 Jan 12 11:38 /usr/ports/distfiles/krb5-1.1.1.tar % pwd /usr/ports/security/krb5 % make ===> Extracting for krb5-1.1.1 >> Checksum OK for krb5-1.1.1.tar. ===> krb5-1.1.1 depends on executable: gm4 - found ===> krb5-1.1.1 depends on executable: gmake - found . . . Same results on 4.0-STABLE. > I ran "make -ds" (amazing what you can find in the man pages) > and got the following error message: > > SuffFindDeps (do-fetch) > No known suffix on do-fetch. Using .NULL suffix > not adding suffix rules. That's normal... it just means that `do-fetch' has no suffix. A suffix in this case is something such as `.c' in `foo.c'. > then it prints out the "go get the distribution file" message. Probably because you don't really have the distribution file, or for some reason your PORTSDIR (or DISTDIR) is not set the way you think it is. Try this to check: % make -V DISTFILES -V PORTSDIR -V DISTDIR krb5-1.1.1.tar /usr/ports /usr/ports/distfiles > I'm no C hacker so I can only surmise their is something > missing somewhere. This hasn't anything to do with C :-) > I've plowed through the email archives (both -questions > and -security) as well as the FAQ and didn't find anything > about this. > > Oh yeah, I'm running 3.4-stable last cvsup'd on 4/17. Drop me a line if you still have trouble after reading the above. -- Jacques Vidrine / n@nectar.com / nectar@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 8:30:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4CE37BE0C; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 08:30:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e3KFwfn02517; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 08:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 08:58:41 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: msmith@freebsd.org Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: amr still seems to have issues. Message-ID: <20000420085841.G1838@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, we're running 4.0-stable as of Sat Apr 15 18:39:08 PDT 2000 which include the recent amr fixes which we were hoping would cure the lockups with amr. Unfortunatly we are now experiancing reboots, the messages file reveals this: Apr 15 13:31:06 abacus /kernel: amr0: command 31 wedged after 30 seconds Apr 15 13:37:39 abacus /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. ... Apr 16 13:25:40 abacus login: 1 LOGIN FAILURE ON ttyd0, ^[^[[12~^C Apr 18 12:12:23 abacus /kernel: amr0: command 101 wedged after 30 seconds Apr 18 12:18:54 abacus /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. So basically a couple of seconds after getting that message on the console something bad seems to happen. here's the amr's probe message: Apr 18 12:18:55 abacus /kernel: amr0: port 0x1080-0x10ff irq 18 a t device 11.0 on pci0 Apr 18 12:18:55 abacus /kernel: amr0: firmware UF80 bios 1.61 128MB memory Apr 18 12:18:55 abacus /kernel: amrd0: on amr0 Apr 18 12:18:55 abacus /kernel: amrd0: 34992MB (71663616 sectors) RAID 5 (optima l) Can someone give us a hand here? We _really_ need to get this stabilized. Right now I'm attempting to log off a serial console to see what's going on, however this box has been in production (and doing miserably) for some time now so doing debugging is pretty difficult as well as time consuming where I really need to be working on other issues. thanks, -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 10:23:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isabase.philol.msu.ru (isabase.philol.msu.ru [195.208.217.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 705DF37B701; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 10:23:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grg@isabase.philol.msu.ru) Received: (from grg@localhost) by isabase.philol.msu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA02207; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 21:23:24 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from grg) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 21:23:24 +0400 From: Grigoriy Strokin To: Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami Cc: Grigoriy Strokin , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'make' complains about /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk and fails to make ports (4.0-STABLE) Message-ID: <20000420212324.A2071@isabase.philol.msu.ru> References: <20000420004543.A3176@isabase.philol.msu.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from asami@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 01:57:42AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 01:57:42AM -0700, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote: > * From: Grigoriy Strokin > > * grg@isabase.1:/usr/ports/emulators/linux_base$ make > * > * "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 447: Too many nested if's. 30 max. > : > * The ports tree has been cvsup-ed together with all other sources. > * After first failure with make, I re-cvsuped all the sourced > * and made 'make world' again without any positive result. > > That is very weird. Line 447 is the first .if (in fact the first > non-comment line other than the maintainer) in bsd.port.mk. > > You should have a loop somewhere. Can you send me the result of "make > -d d" (or look at the output and debug it yourself)? The first dozen > lines or so should look something like this: Sorry, this was an error(?) on my part. I have created 'Makefile.local' in the directories in which I tried to run make, just in case if I would want to slightly modify them and then run make -f Makefile.local. The existence of 'Makefile.local', however, prevents /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk from being interpreted properly even if I do 'make -f Makefile'. It seems that bsd.port.mk includes Makefile.local, if it exists, and I didn't know about that. > > === > # make -d d > Caching /usr/share/mk...done > expanding "sys.mk".../usr/share/mk/sys.mk > Searching for /etc/make.conf...Looking for "/etc/make.conf"...Caching 12:24:37 Feb 23, 2000 for /etc/make.conf > Searching for /etc/make.conf...Looking for "/etc/make.conf"...got it (in mtime cache) > Searching for /etc/make.conf.local...Looking for "/etc/make.conf.local"...failed. Returning NULL > Searching for bsd.own.mk...failed. > Searching for bsd.own.mk...failed. > Searching for bsd.own.mk.../usr/share/mk...here...returning /usr/share/mk/bsd.own.mk > Searching for /etc/objformat...Looking for "/etc/objformat"...Caching 3:51:30 Jan 4, 1999 for /etc/objformat > Searching for /etc/objformat...Looking for "/etc/objformat"...got it (in mtime cache) > Searching for makefile...failed. > Searching for makefile.../usr/share/mk...failed. > Searching for bsd.port.mk...failed. > Searching for bsd.port.mk...failed. > Searching for bsd.port.mk.../usr/share/mk...here...returning /usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk > Searching for /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk...Looking for "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk"...Caching 1:12:39 Apr 20, 2000 for /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk > Searching for /sbin/sysctl...Looking for "/sbin/sysctl"...Caching 16:46:02 Jul 29, 1999 for /sbin/sysctl > : > === > > Satoshi > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- === Grigoriy Strokin, Lomonosov University (MGU), Moscow === === contact info: http://isabase.philol.msu.ru/~grg/ === To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 11:10:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (adsl-63-202-177-62.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.177.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC3A37B6AC for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:10:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00917; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:17:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200004201817.LAA00917@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amr still seems to have issues. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 20 Apr 2000 08:58:41 PDT." <20000420085841.G1838@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:17:21 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi, we're running 4.0-stable as of Sat Apr 15 18:39:08 PDT 2000 > which include the recent amr fixes which we were hoping would cure > the lockups with amr. Unfortunatly we are now experiancing reboots, > the messages file reveals this: > > Apr 15 13:31:06 abacus /kernel: amr0: command 31 wedged after 30 seconds This is extra-bad. Without more feedback from the controller (no documentation from AMI yet, sorry. 8() I can only wonder whether you're getting a SCSI bus error of some sort that's causing the kernel to time these commands out (because the controller is taking too long to respond). You could try increasing the timeout allowance in amr_periodic(), or just disable the poll entirely. This won't help if the controller is really dropping commands, though. > Right now I'm attempting to log off a serial console to see what's > going on, however this box has been in production (and doing miserably) > for some time now so doing debugging is pretty difficult as well as > time consuming where I really need to be working on other issues. At this point, I have no other ideas, sorry. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 12:43: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from frolkin.demon.co.uk (frolkin.demon.co.uk [194.222.100.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E4037BDC8 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:43:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sasha@frolkin.demon.co.uk) Received: from sasha by frolkin.demon.co.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12iMpL-0000W8-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 20:41:27 +0100 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 20:41:27 +0100 From: Alexander Frolkin To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: nfsd/mountd problem Message-ID: <20000420204126.A1856@gamma> Reply-To: Alexander Frolkin Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.14 X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: 6C84 3EB2 550E E581 62FA BB0C D510 B042 FD5C E7A7 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've noticed on my 4.0-STABLE system, that unless I enable IPv6 and set ipv6_network_interfaces to "auto", I get the following messages in my syslog when the system comes up: mountd[167]: can't register mount nfsd:[169]: can't register with udp portmap This is somewhat inconvenient, since I need the machine to be an NFS server, occasionally (and I _do_ want to enable IPv6). Running mountd -d displays nothing out of the ordinary, and logs the above message just after saying "here we go". TIA, Alexander. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 13: 3:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6725437B99B; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 13:03:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B79138152; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 16:02:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA31612; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 16:02:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14591.25172.361989.676550@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 16:02:28 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Cc: Archie Cobbs Subject: MD5 usage in the kernel. X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm working on an l2tp netgraph node. I need md5. Specifically, the RFC says: The Response is a 16 octet value reflecting the CHAP-style [RFC1994] response to the challenge. I've had a look at md5.c, but there is no documentation on the usage md5. In this specific case, how do I call it? If CHAP uses MD5, how does ng_ppp or kernel ppp handle this (or does it)? Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 13:13:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lindt.urgle.com (lindt.urgle.com [195.173.172.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 284B237BE98; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 13:13:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@urgle.com) Received: from mike by lindt.urgle.com with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12iNK9-0002dv-00; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 21:13:17 +0100 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 21:13:17 +0100 From: Mike Bristow To: David Gilbert Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org, Archie Cobbs Subject: Re: MD5 usage in the kernel. Message-ID: <20000420211317.A10157@lindt.urgle.com> References: <14591.25172.361989.676550@trooper.velocet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <14591.25172.361989.676550@trooper.velocet.net>; from dgilbert@velocet.ca on Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 04:02:28PM -0400 X-Rated: LSD, spy, Panama Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 04:02:28PM -0400, David Gilbert wrote: > I'm working on an l2tp netgraph node. I need md5. Specifically, the > RFC says: > > The Response is a 16 octet value reflecting the CHAP-style > [RFC1994] response to the challenge. > > I've had a look at md5.c, but there is no documentation on the usage > md5. In this specific case, how do I call it? > > If CHAP uses MD5, how does ng_ppp or kernel ppp handle this (or does > it)? hands all the LCP of to userland Is a similar approach approprate here? Is the MD5ing time critical, or does it only appear in the moral equivilent of LCP? -- Mike Bristow, seebitwopie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 13:19:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isabase.philol.msu.ru (isabase.philol.msu.ru [195.208.217.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF2E37C0CE for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 13:19:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grg@isabase.philol.msu.ru) Received: (from grg@localhost) by isabase.philol.msu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.2) id AAA18821 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:19:09 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from grg) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:19:09 +0400 From: Grigoriy Strokin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: linprocfs? Message-ID: <20000421001909.A18780@isabase.philol.msu.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD isabase.philol.msu.ru 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Thu Apr 20 17:01:04 MSD 2000 grg@isabase.philol.msu.ru:/usr/src/sys/compile/ISABASE i386 Hello, In 4.0-STABLE, there is a command mount_linprocfs and man pages for it. However, it doesn't work: $ mount -t linprocfs linproc /compat/linux/proc linprocfs: vfsload(linprocfs): No such file or directory I think this is because there is no linprocfs.ko How do I get linprocfs work? -- === Grigoriy Strokin, Lomonosov University (MGU), Moscow === === contact info: http://isabase.philol.msu.ru/~grg/ === To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 13:42:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A65A637B746; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 13:42:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB6F138041; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 16:42:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA35195; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 16:42:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14591.27558.729855.961543@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 16:42:14 -0400 (EDT) To: Mike Bristow Cc: David Gilbert , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org, Archie Cobbs Subject: Re: MD5 usage in the kernel. In-Reply-To: <20000420211317.A10157@lindt.urgle.com> References: <14591.25172.361989.676550@trooper.velocet.net> <20000420211317.A10157@lindt.urgle.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Mike" == Mike Bristow writes: Mike> hands all the LCP of to userland Mike> Is a similar approach approprate here? Is the MD5ing time Mike> critical, or does it only appear in the moral equivilent of LCP? Could be done, I suppose. It is the "moral" equivalent to LCP. It just seems to be such a simple function that md5 in the kernel is perfect for it. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 14:51:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from survis.surfnet.nl (survis.surfnet.nl [192.87.108.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7A137B6AA for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:51:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl) Received: from zuurtje.surfnet.nl ([192.87.109.5]) by survis.surfnet.nl with ESMTP (exPP) for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org id 12iOr2-0002Yg-00; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 23:51:20 +0200 Received: from surah.surfnet.nl (surah.surfnet.nl [192.87.109.3]) by zuurtje.surfnet.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3/ZUURTJE-0.7) with ESMTP id XAA09641 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 23:51:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sure.surfnet.nl (sure.surfnet.nl [192.87.109.131]) by surah.surfnet.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3/SURAH-0.1) with ESMTP id XAA04135 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 23:51:19 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 23:54:33 +0200 (CEST) From: Ronald van der Pol To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: does FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE support DEC/INTEL 21041? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to get a Farallon Ethernet card working on FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE. It has a chip labelled "digital 21041-pb". The kernel meesages say: de0: irq 9 at device 16.0 on pci0 de0: driver is using old-style compatibility shims What does this mean? Is this card supported? rvdp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 14:58:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from survis.surfnet.nl (survis.surfnet.nl [192.87.108.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CBBA37B55E for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:58:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl) Received: from zuurtje.surfnet.nl ([192.87.109.5]) by survis.surfnet.nl with ESMTP (exPP) for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org id 12iOxf-0002ZX-00; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 23:58:11 +0200 Received: from surah.surfnet.nl (surah.surfnet.nl [192.87.109.3]) by zuurtje.surfnet.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3/ZUURTJE-0.7) with ESMTP id XAA11674 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 23:58:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sure.surfnet.nl (sure.surfnet.nl [192.87.109.131]) by surah.surfnet.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3/SURAH-0.1) with ESMTP id XAA04144 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 23:58:10 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:01:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Ronald van der Pol To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: setting Ethernet address on Ethernet card? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is it possible to change the Ethernet address on an Ethernet card? If yes, how can I do this? My ADSL operator has my Ethernet address configured in his DHCP server. If I can set my Ethernet address, that would make my transition from one system to another easier. rvdp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 15: 1:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bubba.whistle.com (bubba.whistle.com [207.76.205.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F37937B50D; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:01:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA98814; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:01:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <200004202201.PAA98814@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: MD5 usage in the kernel. In-Reply-To: <14591.25172.361989.676550@trooper.velocet.net> from David Gilbert at "Apr 20, 2000 04:02:28 pm" To: dgilbert@velocet.ca (David Gilbert) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org, archie@whistle.com (Archie Cobbs) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Gilbert writes: > I'm working on an l2tp netgraph node. I need md5. Specifically, the > RFC says: > > The Response is a 16 octet value reflecting the CHAP-style > [RFC1994] response to the challenge. > > I've had a look at md5.c, but there is no documentation on the usage > md5. In this specific case, how do I call it? MD5 is included in the kernel by default. So just call the same routines shown in the md5(3) man page... they're declared in /sys/crypto/md5.h, which you should #include in your C file(s). > If CHAP uses MD5, how does ng_ppp or kernel ppp handle this (or does > it)? In the ng_ppp case, in user-land where all PPP negotiation takes place. For kernel PPP, in the kernel -- see sys/net/if_spppsubr.c. -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 15: 3: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay02.chello.nl (relay02.chello.nl [212.83.68.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F1837B5D3 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:03:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay02.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 99c8f334c649856e3f2cdadc4054e412) with ESMTP id <20000420220231.GRZA18572.relay02@chello.nl>; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:02:31 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA08429; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:02:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:02:33 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Ronald van der Pol Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: does FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE support DEC/INTEL 21041? Message-ID: <20000421000233.A8415@yedi.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl on Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 11:54:33PM +0200 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 11:54:33PM +0200, Ronald van der Pol wrote: > I am trying to get a Farallon Ethernet card working on FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE. > It has a chip labelled "digital 21041-pb". > > The kernel meesages say: > de0: irq 9 at device 16.0 on pci0 > de0: driver is using old-style compatibility shims > > What does this mean? Is this card supported? It means the driver has not yet been changed to accomodate some changes in the driver API but runs in compatibility mode. This is a sort of reminder to the driver maintainer[s]. Not to worry.. -- Wilko Bulte Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 15: 7:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay01.chello.nl (smtp.chello.nl [212.83.68.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B083337B57E for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:07:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay01.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 99c8f334c649856e3f2cdadc4054e412) with ESMTP id <20000420220711.HIEA6157.relay01@chello.nl>; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:07:11 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA08472; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:07:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:07:04 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Ronald van der Pol Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setting Ethernet address on Ethernet card? Message-ID: <20000421000704.B8415@yedi.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl on Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 12:01:23AM +0200 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 12:01:23AM +0200, Ronald van der Pol wrote: > Is it possible to change the Ethernet address on an Ethernet card? If yes, > how can I do this? My ADSL operator has my Ethernet address configured in If this is the same 21041 card: the driver pulls the actual address from the address ROM on the card. I suppose you could hack the driver source to put another address in. I don't think ifconfig can do it. > his DHCP server. If I can set my Ethernet address, that would make my > transition from one system to another easier. Yep.. -- Wilko Bulte Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 15:17:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from survis.surfnet.nl (survis.surfnet.nl [192.87.108.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167E437B746 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:17:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl) Received: from zuurtje.surfnet.nl ([192.87.109.5]) by survis.surfnet.nl with ESMTP (exPP) id 12iPGa-0002cT-00; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:17:44 +0200 Received: from surah.surfnet.nl (surah.surfnet.nl [192.87.109.3]) by zuurtje.surfnet.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3/ZUURTJE-0.7) with ESMTP id AAA16827; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:17:44 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sure.surfnet.nl (sure.surfnet.nl [192.87.109.131]) by surah.surfnet.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3/SURAH-0.1) with ESMTP id AAA04228; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:17:43 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:20:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Ronald van der Pol To: wc.bulte@chello.nl Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setting Ethernet address on Ethernet card? In-Reply-To: <20000421000704.B8415@yedi.wbnet> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > If this is the same 21041 card: the driver pulls the actual address from > the address ROM on the card. No, that's a 3com 509B :-) So, setting the Ethernet address depends on the Ethernet card brand? Is the source Ethernet address in a IP packet usually inserted by the Ethernet card firmware? If it is just data in a kernel structure I would expect that you could simply change it with an ioctl(2). rvdp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 15:21: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from survis.surfnet.nl (survis.surfnet.nl [192.87.108.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A1E37B76A for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:20:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl) Received: from zuurtje.surfnet.nl ([192.87.109.5]) by survis.surfnet.nl with ESMTP (exPP) id 12iPJb-0002ck-00; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:20:51 +0200 Received: from surah.surfnet.nl (surah.surfnet.nl [192.87.109.3]) by zuurtje.surfnet.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3/ZUURTJE-0.7) with ESMTP id AAA17884; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:20:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sure.surfnet.nl (sure.surfnet.nl [192.87.109.131]) by surah.surfnet.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3/SURAH-0.1) with ESMTP id AAA04237; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:20:50 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:24:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Ronald van der Pol To: wc.bulte@chello.nl Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: does FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE support DEC/INTEL 21041? In-Reply-To: <20000421000233.A8415@yedi.wbnet> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > The kernel meesages say: > > de0: irq 9 at device 16.0 on pci0 > > de0: driver is using old-style compatibility shims > > > > What does this mean? Is this card supported? > > It means the driver has not yet been changed to accomodate some changes in > the driver API but runs in compatibility mode. This is a sort of reminder to > the driver maintainer[s]. Not to worry.. Hmm, but it does not seem to work: $ ifconfig de0 inet up ifconfig: interface de0 does not exist rvdp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 15:25:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay02.chello.nl (relay02.chello.nl [212.83.68.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17DA237B74B for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:25:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay02.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 99c8f334c649856e3f2cdadc4054e412) with ESMTP id <20000420222439.GZKT18572.relay02@chello.nl>; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:24:39 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA08665; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:24:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:24:41 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Ronald van der Pol Cc: wc.bulte@chello.nl, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setting Ethernet address on Ethernet card? Message-ID: <20000421002441.A8651@yedi.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: <20000421000704.B8415@yedi.wbnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl on Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 12:20:57AM +0200 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 12:20:57AM +0200, Ronald van der Pol wrote: > On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > If this is the same 21041 card: the driver pulls the actual address from > > the address ROM on the card. > > No, that's a 3com 509B :-) So, setting the Ethernet address depends chello customer maybe? > on the Ethernet card brand? Is the source Ethernet address in a IP > packet usually inserted by the Ethernet card firmware? If it is just > data in a kernel structure I would expect that you could simply change > it with an ioctl(2). You can on the 2104x DEC-chip based cards because DECnet needed it. So the DEC chips can do it. I'm not certain this applies to all brands of ethernet cards. -- Wilko Bulte Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 16:12: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58EDF37B564 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 16:11:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08703; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 16:11:49 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200004202311.QAA08703@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: setting Ethernet address on Ethernet card? In-Reply-To: from Ronald van der Pol at "Apr 21, 0 00:01:23 am" To: Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl (Ronald van der Pol) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 16:11:48 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Ronald van der Pol wrote: > Is it possible to change the Ethernet address on an Ethernet card? It depends on the card. Some can (usually more expensive, high end), some can't (clones and cheapies). Those that can are usually so as to be able to support Ethernet multicasting, or High Availablity failovers and the like. A major issue is that the Ethernet address (the MAC, in IEEE 802.3 parlance) is supposed to be unique. It =has= to be unique within any collision domain. The manufacturers work that out by allowing the IEEE to assign the first 24 bits of the address to each manufacturer, and then the manufacturer picks the lower 24 bits (like a serial number). Clever line monitors can tell you the manufacturer of the card that sent an Ethernet packet. If you multicast, the spec says you've taken upon yourself the responsibility for a unique MAC address. > If yes, how can I do this? Again, depends on the card. If it can, the place where FreeBSD should do it is in the device driver, controlled by an option to ifconfig. I don't know of any support for that. There might be an MS-DOS utility available from the manufacturer, if the card hardware supports it. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 16:14:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from foobar.franken.de (foobar.franken.de [194.94.249.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96CCE37B564 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 16:14:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from logix@foobar.franken.de) Received: (from logix@localhost) by foobar.franken.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) id BAA06960; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 01:15:46 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <20000421011545.C6488@foobar.franken.de> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 01:15:45 +0200 From: Harold Gutch To: Ronald van der Pol , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setting Ethernet address on Ethernet card? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Ronald van der Pol on Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 12:01:23AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 12:01:23AM +0200, Ronald van der Pol wrote: > Is it possible to change the Ethernet address on an Ethernet card? If yes, > how can I do this? My ADSL operator has my Ethernet address configured in > his DHCP server. If I can set my Ethernet address, that would make my > transition from one system to another easier. Try Bill Paul's tool "setmac" for this job, you should be able to find it somewhere at http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/ bye, Harold -- Someone should do a study to find out how many human life spans have been lost waiting for NT to reboot. Ken Deboy on Dec 24 1999 in comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 16:55:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pi.yip.org (yip.org [199.45.111.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A584537B78D for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 16:55:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Received: from localhost (melange@localhost) by pi.yip.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA92014; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 19:55:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 19:55:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob K X-Sender: melange@localhost To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: Ronald van der Pol , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: [OT] Re: setting Ethernet address on Ethernet card? In-Reply-To: <200004202311.QAA08703@freeway.dcfinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Chad R. Larson wrote: > As I recall, Ronald van der Pol wrote: > > Is it possible to change the Ethernet address on an Ethernet card? > > It depends on the card. Some can (usually more expensive, high end), > some can't (clones and cheapies). Those that can are usually so as > to be able to support Ethernet multicasting, or High Availablity > failovers and the like. [snip] > > There might be an MS-DOS utility available from the manufacturer, if > the card hardware supports it. Just to give an example of a cheapie clone card that can change its MAC address, the ISA SN2000PCT's MAC addy can be changed by using the DOS utility (but you have to add the /f flag). I *think* it uses the RealTek 8019 chipset, but I can't remember for sure (it's in a win98 box at the moment). As an added bonus, the setup utility will change the MAC address to fe:ff:ff:ff in the event of a MAC address collision. Now before anyone gets excited about it, I wouldn't recommend those cards to anybody. The reason I know of its MAC address changing abilities is because the setup utility incorrectly determined there was a MAC address collision (no other cards in the box, not connected to a network, no I/O or irq conflicts) and changed it. Also, about a year and a half ago, I think the EEPROM started to die so that on reboot the card would no longer be detected; the only thing that would bring it back was powering the machine off and unplugging it for several seconds, then "re-activate" it with the RealTek configuration utility. On the up side, it's completely fine in jumperless (ie, non-PnP) mode. -- Bob "Reality is the only word in the language that should always be used in quotes" - My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult sample To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 17:30:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (tun.AwfulHak.org [194.242.139.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A3A37B78C for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 17:30:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA24589; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 01:25:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA01394; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 01:25:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200004210025.BAA01394@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: William Denton Cc: Brian Somers , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: Serial port problems with 4.0 In-Reply-To: Message from William Denton of "Wed, 19 Apr 2000 22:16:33 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 01:25:00 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On 19 April 2000, Brian Somers wrote: > > : I suspect on a real tty, this will have problems after ``opening -> > : carrier'' ! Does ``set cd off'' make any difference ? If it does, > : that's a bug. > > Here's a dump of a ppp session: > > bash-2.03# ppp > Working in interactive mode > Using interface: tun0 > ppp ON mrs-hudson> set log local phase > ppp ON mrs-hudson> term > Phase: bundle: Establish > Phase: deflink: closed -> opening > Phase: deflink: Connected! > deflink: Entering terminal mode on /dev/cuaa0 > Type `~?' for help > Phase: deflink: opening -> carrier > Phase: deflink: /dev/cuaa0 doesn't support CD > Phase: deflink: carrier -> ready > atdt3418903 > CONNECT 115200 > I assume you haven't got any ``set openmode passive'' lines in your config. This would certainly cause this. Otherwise, try setting ``debug'' and ``physical'' logging. What does it say then ? > In ppp.log on my other machine (3.4 where it's all fine), I see lines > like, "tun0: Phase: deflink: /dev/cuaa1: CD detected." So what's up with > the carrier detect here, I don't know. There should be no carrier detected. Now that I'm in a position to check what happens, I see that basically you'll always see no carrier at the ``term'' bit (there is no carrier after all), but as carrier is optional by default, that's ok. There's a problem that ppp never checks for carrier - even after it receives its first LCP packet, but I don't think this has anything to do with your problem. To exercise this, try ``set cd 1!'' and then ``term''. It'll never succeed (unless you're already connected). The increased logging mentioned above may tell us more about your problem.... > Bill > -- > William Denton : Toronto, Canada : http://www.miskatonic.org/ : Caveat lector. -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 17:36:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (mass.cdrom.com [204.216.28.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1506737B522 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 17:36:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15131 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 17:43:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200004210043.RAA15131@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Mylex driver: fix/feature MFC proposed, please test Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 17:43:13 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Users with Mylex RAID adapters using the 'mlx' driver, please test the patch at http://people.freebsd.org/~msmith/mlx.diff. This should fix a nasty race that mostly shows up when you kill or remove a drive in an unmanaged enclosure, as well as laying the groundwork to bring the 'mlxcontrol' tool back from -current. Thanks. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 17:40:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from frolkin.demon.co.uk (frolkin.demon.co.uk [194.222.100.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B070A37B71B for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 17:40:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sasha@frolkin.demon.co.uk) Received: from sasha by frolkin.demon.co.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12iRV4-0000h0-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 01:40:50 +0100 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 01:40:50 +0100 From: Alexander Frolkin To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: portmap strangeness Message-ID: <20000421014049.A2573@gamma> Reply-To: Alexander Frolkin Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.14 X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: 6C84 3EB2 550E E581 62FA BB0C D510 B042 FD5C E7A7 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Upon further investigation of the NFS problem ("can't register mount"), I've found that portmap does not seem to work correctly, and consequently, no RPC services can register, if lp0 is ifconfig'd to down. If I ifconfig it to up, and restart portmap, it works fine. There isn't anything actually connected to the other end of lp0, if that makes a difference. Is this a known problem, and has it been corrected (since 1st April, when I last cvsupped RELENG_4) ? Alexander. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 19: 9:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B0C1137B5AF for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 19:09:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 73189 invoked by uid 1000); 21 Apr 2000 02:09:03 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Apr 2000 02:09:03 -0000 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 22:08:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: hmm.. restrict_rst & drop_synfin Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This is odd, I could have sworn these were at least available in 4.0 - From 4.0-STABLE as of yesterday: /etc/defaults/rc.conf: tcp_drop_synfin="NO" # Set to YES to drop TCP packets with SYN+FIN # NOTE: this breaks rfc1644 extensions (T/TCP) tcp_restrict_rst="NO" # Set to YES to restrict emission of RST /etc/rc.network: case ${tcp_drop_synfin} in [Yy][Ee][Ss]) echo -n ' drop SYN+FIN packets=YES' sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.drop_synfin=1 >/dev/null ;; esac case ${tcp_restrict_rst} in [Yy][Ee][Ss]) echo -n ' restrict TCP reset=YES' sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.restrict_rst=1 >/dev/null ;; esac however: root[epsilon]:~# sysctl net.inet.tcp.restrict_rst sysctl: unknown oid 'net.inet.tcp.restrict_rst' root[epsilon]:~# sysctl net.inet.tcp.drop_synfin sysctl: unknown oid 'net.inet.tcp.drop_synfin' Yes, my kernel and /etc is all up to date, I did a fresh install for 4.0 to avoid the nightmare make world, and because the system had been upgraded and upgraded since 3.1 and needed a clean start.. Now, I take a look at my 3.4-stable box as of Feb. 14 (with 20000202 upgrade package) and I find this: /etc/defaults/rc.conf: tcp_drop_synfin="NO" # Set to YES to drop TCP packets with SYN+FIN # NOTE: this breaks rfc1644 extensions (T/TCP) tcp_restrict_rst="NO" # Set to YES to restrict emission of RST /etc/rc.network: if [ "X$tcp_drop_synfin" = X"YES" ]; then echo -n ' drop SYN+FIN packets=YES' sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.drop_synfin=1 >/dev/null fi if [ "X$tcp_restrict_rst" = X"YES" ]; then echo -n ' restrict TCP reset=YES' sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.restrict_rst=1 >/dev/null fi once again: root[alpha]:~# sysctl net.inet.tcp.drop_synfin sysctl: unknown oid 'net.inet.tcp.drop_synfin' root[alpha]:~# sysctl net.inet.tcp.restrict_rst sysctl: unknown oid 'net.inet.tcp.restrict_rst' Am I seriously missing something, or were the /etc files updated and the code never actually went in? Matt Heckaman matt@arpa.mail.net http://www.lucida.qc.ca -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE4/7g/dMMtMcA1U5ARAnQkAKC3r+zUs1RtYNOQSl3BPCUfA7qS3QCg8iiP I4t8hOK+p8W4ncGGJd6eFt4= =sJnY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 19:56:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lark.capnet.state.tx.us (lark.capnet.state.tx.us [204.65.39.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8381337B78F for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 19:56:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Bryan.Bradsby@capnet.state.tx.us) Received: from localhost (bbradsby@localhost) by lark.capnet.state.tx.us (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e3L2uSf00830; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 21:56:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 21:56:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Bryan Bradsby To: Matt Heckaman Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: hmm.. restrict_rst & drop_synfin In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > root[epsilon]:~# sysctl net.inet.tcp.restrict_rst > sysctl: unknown oid 'net.inet.tcp.restrict_rst' > root[epsilon]:~# sysctl net.inet.tcp.drop_synfin > sysctl: unknown oid 'net.inet.tcp.drop_synfin' > > Yes, my kernel and /etc is all up to date, I did a fresh install for 4.0 You have to compile support for these options into the kernel. They are not in the GENERIC kernel. See LINT for the proper syntax. -bryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 19:59:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 75B0F37B9B3 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 19:59:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 73470 invoked by uid 1000); 21 Apr 2000 02:59:40 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Apr 2000 02:59:40 -0000 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 22:59:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Bryan Bradsby Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: hmm.. restrict_rst & drop_synfin In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Bryan Bradsby wrote: [...] : You have to compile support for these options into the kernel. They are : not in the GENERIC kernel. See LINT for the proper syntax. Yes, I was informed of this shortly after my original post, and I'm not running the generic kernel, I do actually make my own kernels =) I am just special kernel options, and that if they did, they should say so. I submitted a PR change request to have comments added that state this and one who expected that things listed in defaults/rc.conf would not require refer people to LINT. Thanks : -bryan : Matt Heckaman matt@arpa.mail.net http://www.lucida.qc.ca -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE4/8QcdMMtMcA1U5ARAiFvAJ9GTYdGse0ZGIfkDElB0k8QFuozpwCfY7Mo +AUMAZJ6wWr22HYMtcOYTLk= =IuJ3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 20 20:13:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from odin.egate.net (as2.dm.egate.net [216.235.1.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B8937B592 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 20:13:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from buff@pobox.com) Received: from localhost (buff@localhost) by odin.egate.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA11355; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 23:13:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: odin.egate.net: buff owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 23:13:41 -0400 (EDT) From: William Denton X-Sender: buff@odin.egate.net To: Brian Somers Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Serial port problems with 4.0 In-Reply-To: <200004210025.BAA01394@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 21 April 2000, Brian Somers wrote: : I assume you haven't got any ``set openmode passive'' lines in your : config. This would certainly cause this. Otherwise, try setting : ``debug'' and ``physical'' logging. What does it say then ? No "openmode passive." Here's the default part of my config, which I think is straight from the sample: default: set device /dev/cuaa0 set log Phase Chat Connect LCP IPCP CCP tun command set speed 115200 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" set timeout 1200 set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 add default HISADDR enable dns The profile for my ISP does a "set openmode active" then just sets phone, login and timeout, but that's not even getting used here in term mode. I set the logging as you said, and below is what I got. I cut out the stuff in the middle where I typed in the ATDT line. Working in interactive mode Using interface: tun0 ppp ON mrs-hudson> set log local phase debug physical ppp ON mrs-hudson> term Phase: bundle: Establish Phase: deflink: closed -> opening Debug: deflink: Opened /dev/cuaa0 Debug: deflink: tty_Create: physical (get): fd = 2, iflag = 0, oflag = 0, cflag = 4b00 Debug: deflink: physical (put): iflag = 201, oflag = 0, cflag = 3cb00 Phase: deflink: Connected! deflink: Entering terminal mode on /dev/cuaa0 Type `~?' for help Phase: deflink: opening -> carrier Debug: deflink: Using tty_Timeout [0x8073260] Debug: Waiting for carrier Debug: Waiting for carrier Phase: deflink: /dev/cuaa0 doesn't support CD Phase: deflink: carrier -> ready Debug: Got 1 bytes (reading from the terminal) Physical: write Physical: 61 a Physical: read Physical: 61 a Debug: deflink: DescriptorRead: read 1/2048 from 2 a [ ## tdtnnnnnn left out, last number is 3: ##] 3Debug: Got 1 bytes (reading from the terminal) Physical: write Physical: 0d . Physical: read Physical: 0d . Debug: deflink: DescriptorRead: read 1/2048 from 2 Physical: read Physical: 0d 0a 43 4f 4e 4e 45 43 54 20 31 31 35 32 30 30 ..CONNECT 115200 Physical: 0d 0a .. Debug: deflink: DescriptorRead: read 18/2048 from 2 CONNECT 115200 and then it just sat there like usual. : To exercise this, try ``set cd 1!'' and then ``term''. It'll never : succeed (unless you're already connected). It doesn't. I hope the stuff above offers some clues to whatever is afflicting my PPP. Thanks. Bill -- William Denton : Toronto, Canada : http://www.miskatonic.org/ : Caveat lector. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 0: 4: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26EB137B619; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:03:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e3L7W5Y26479; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:32:05 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Mike Smith Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: amr still seems to have issues. Message-ID: <20000421003205.A25458@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20000420085841.G1838@fw.wintelcom.net> <200004201817.LAA00917@mass.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200004201817.LAA00917@mass.cdrom.com>; from msmith@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 11:17:21AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Mike Smith [000420 11:39] wrote: > > Hi, we're running 4.0-stable as of Sat Apr 15 18:39:08 PDT 2000 > > which include the recent amr fixes which we were hoping would cure > > the lockups with amr. Unfortunatly we are now experiancing reboots, > > the messages file reveals this: > > > > Apr 15 13:31:06 abacus /kernel: amr0: command 31 wedged after 30 seconds > > This is extra-bad. Without more feedback from the controller (no > documentation from AMI yet, sorry. 8() I can only wonder whether you're > getting a SCSI bus error of some sort that's causing the kernel to time > these commands out (because the controller is taking too long to respond). > > You could try increasing the timeout allowance in amr_periodic(), or just > disable the poll entirely. This won't help if the controller is really > dropping commands, though. > > > Right now I'm attempting to log off a serial console to see what's > > going on, however this box has been in production (and doing miserably) > > for some time now so doing debugging is pretty difficult as well as > > time consuming where I really need to be working on other issues. > > At this point, I have no other ideas, sorry. Here's something I hope it helps: amr0: command 40 wedged after 30 seconds biodone: page busy < 0, pindex: 144, foff: 0x(0,90000), resid: 4096, index: 0 iosize: 8192, lblkno: 72, flags: 0x30020aa0, npages: 2 valid: 0xff, dirty: 0x0, wired: 1 panic: biodone: page busy < 0 mp_lock = 01000001; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 00000000 boot() called on cpu#1 syncing disks... Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode mp_lock = 01000002; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 00000000 fault virtual address = 0x30 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0226765 stack pointer = 0x10:0xff80dd9c frame pointer = 0x10:0xff80dda0 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = Idle interrupt mask = bio <- SMP: XXX trap number = 12 panic: page fault mp_lock = 01000002; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 00000000 boot() called on cpu#1 Uptime: 2d4h11m39s amrd0: still open, can't shutdown dumping to dev #da/0x20001, offset 128 dump 1023 1022 Aborting dump due to I/O error. (da0:ahc1:0:6:0): WRITE(06). CDB: a 7 da f7 8 0 (da0:ahc1:0:6:0): error code 0 at block no. -964632618 (decimal) failed, reason: i/o error Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort Rebooting... Any ideas? -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 0:25:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4BAC37B702 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:25:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michel@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.10.0/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id e3L7MDU07482 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 09:22:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr ([134.157.10.102]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id JAA22090 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 09:22:13 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from michel@localhost) by rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00430 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 09:22:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from michel) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 09:22:13 +0200 From: Michel Talon To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: linprocfs? Message-ID: <20000421092213.A389@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000421001909.A18780@isabase.philol.msu.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <20000421001909.A18780@isabase.philol.msu.ru> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 12:19:09AM +0400, Grigoriy Strokin wrote: > > FreeBSD isabase.philol.msu.ru 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Thu Apr 20 > 17:01:04 MSD 2000 grg@isabase.philol.msu.ru:/usr/src/sys/compile/ISABASE > i386 > > Hello, > > In 4.0-STABLE, there is a command mount_linprocfs and man pages > for it. However, it doesn't work: > > $ mount -t linprocfs linproc /compat/linux/proc > linprocfs: vfsload(linprocfs): No such file or directory > > I think this is because there is no linprocfs.ko There is such a module on my machine. FreeBSD rose 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Tue Apr 18 17:23:37 CEST 2000 -- Michel Talon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 0:52:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D93B37B78F for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:52:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 74762 invoked by uid 1000); 21 Apr 2000 07:48:28 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Apr 2000 07:48:28 -0000 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 03:48:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: OpenSSH 1.2.2/3 cause tcsh & bash to core dump. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I've found on my FreeBSD 3.4-stable machine that when running OpenSSH, scp's to the machine from various ssh1 and openssh hosts cause the shells tcsh or to bash to core dump. This does not affect 4.0 at all, the 4.0 machine runs perfectly. This also does not occur if UseLogin is set to no. I like to set UseLogin to yes though I'm not sure if I should still be doing that, I did it to make sshd1 behave as I wanted it to, though OpenSSH seems to behave well without UseLogin yes. tcsh core dumps at strrchr(), with bash core dumping at sigprocmask(), like I said before, none of this occurs on 4.0 so prehaps this is something in libc.3 that doesn't happen in libc.4. I really do like OpenSSH much better over SSH 1.2.2x, can anyone point me in the right direction on this problem, or tell me if I even need to be using UseLogin yes like I did with 1.2.27? Oh, also - It's not an issue of my csh.cshrc/logins displaying information on non-interactive shells, they all check for interactive shells correctly. Thanks in advance, Matt Heckaman matt@arpa.mail.net http://www.lucida.qc.ca -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5AAfMdMMtMcA1U5ARAuApAKDm/tH/J01FrFOcGdAMcda8cEEzlACgrfVo qks7t2/dnK8bAWrBjLZXgNM= =79WR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 1:14:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jason.argos.org (a1-3b058.neo.rr.com [24.93.181.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD56737B827 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 01:14:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@argos.org) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by jason.argos.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA28447; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 03:52:11 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 03:52:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Nowlin To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: adoyle@viewsnet.com Subject: Re: ppi Geek Port crash - more info In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG More information on this problem: On Sat, 15 Apr 2000, Mike Nowlin wrote: > Bringing back a problem discussed earlier that I couldn't find a > resolution on, I'm having problems with the ppi interface blowing up the > system (CVSup'd to 4.0-CURRENT somewhere around April 3). (I just want m= y > I'll try to update tomorrow and try it again, but I get the feeling that > I'll have the same problem. -- done as of 4/20, no changes... It DOES work on my 3.4-STABLE system. (I'm about ready to start backing my 4.0 up week-by-week until it works, then doing some diff's... :) ) This bug is triggered by an open() on /dev/ppi0... PR kern/14something... I hooked up a serial kgdb and got the back trace of what happened to cause this... Looks to me like irq=3D0 when it hits BUS_SETUP_INTR in several places, which is passed on to nexus_setup_intr(), causing the panic. I'm not that familiar with how this all works, but I'm more than willing to play with it -- been digging into this code for the last three hours, but can't really "get a grip on it." If someone has a few pointers as to where to look, I'll see what I can do. This whole BUS_SETUP_INTR thing is messing with my mind -- long day/week/month/year at work... :) =20 Hints as to what UNITOSOFTC() really does? Thanks - Mike ------- Lots of debugging stuff below ------- db> trace Debugger(c0271e63) at Debugger+0x3c panic(c02997c0,c0840d80,c0837e00,c0840c80,c61e8ba0) at panic+0x70 nexus_setup_intr(c082de80,c0840c00,0,1,c012d838) at nexus_setup_intr+0x19 BUS_SETUP_INTR(c082de80,c0840c00,0,1,c012d838) at BUS_SETUP_INTR+0x40 bus_generic_setup_intr(c082de00,c0840c00,0,1,c012d838) at=20 =09bus_generic_setup_intr+0x2e BUS_SETUP_INTR(c082de00,c0840c00,0,1,c012d838) at BUS_SETUP_INTR+0x40 bus_generic_setup_intr(c082dd00,c0840c00,0,1,c012d838) at=20 =09bus_generic_setup_intr+0x2e BUS_SETUP_INTR(c082dd00,c0840c00,0,1,c012d838) at BUS_SETUP_INTR+0x40 bus_generic_setup_intr(c082db00,c0840c00,0,1,c012d838) at=20 =09bus_generic_setup_intr+0x2e BUS_SETUP_INTR(c082db00,c0840c00,0,1,c012d838) at BUS_SETUP_INTR+0x40 isa_setup_intr(c082d600,c0840c00,0,1,c012d838) at isa_setup_intr+0x26 BUS_SETUP_INTR(c082d600,c0840c00,0,1,c012d838) at BUS_SETUP_INTR+0x40 ppc_setup_intr(c0837e00,c0840c00,0,1,c012d838) at ppc_setup_intr+0x5e BUS_SETUP_INTR(c0837e00,c0840c00,0,1,c012d838) at BUS_SETUP_INTR+0x40 ppbus_setup_intr(c0840d00,c0840c00,0,1,c012d838) at ppbus_setup_intr+0x50 BUS_SETUP_INTR(c0840d00,c0840c00,0,1,c012d838) at BUS_SETUP_INTR+0x40 ppiopen(c0840980,3,2000,c5c86080,0) at ppiopen+0x90 spec_open(c61e8e10,c61e8de8,c02207a9,c61e8e10,c61e8e84) at spec_open+0xfd spec_vnoperate(c61e8e10,c61e8e84,c0171a57,c61e8e10,0) at spec_vnoperate+0x1= 5 ufs_vnoperatespec(c61e8e10,0,c61e8f80,c096b240,c61edb00) at=20 =09ufs_vnoperatespec+0x15 vn_open(c61e8edc,3,1,c5c86080,c02a772c) at vn_open+0x3d7 open(c5c86080,c61e8f80,1,bfbffcd8,bfbffce0) at open+0xb5 syscall(2f,2f,2f,bfbffce0,bfbffcd8) at syscall+0x176 Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x26 db> #0 0xc0141c95 in panic (fmt=3D0xc0299b20 "nexus_setup_intr: NULL irq resou= rce!") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:526 #1 0xc0255a2d in nexus_setup_intr (bus=3D0xc082de00, child=3D0xc0840c00, i= rq=3D0x0, flags=3D1, ihand=3D0xc012d8d4 , arg=3D0xc0840980, cookiep=3D0x= c0841e14) at ../../i386/i386/nexus.c:402 #2 0xc0120178 in BUS_SETUP_INTR (dev=3D0xc082de00, child=3D0xc0840c00, irq= =3D0x0, flags=3D1, intr=3D0xc012d8d4 , arg=3D0xc0840980, cookiep=3D0xc= 0841e14) at bus_if.c:162 #3 0xc0149ef6 in bus_generic_setup_intr (dev=3D0xc082dd80, child=3D0xc0840= c00, irq=3D0x0, flags=3D1, intr=3D0xc012d8d4 , arg=3D0xc0840980, cookiep=3D0xc0841e14) at ../../kern/subr_bus.c:1968 #4 0xc0120178 in BUS_SETUP_INTR (dev=3D0xc082dd80, child=3D0xc0840c00, irq= =3D0x0, flags=3D1, intr=3D0xc012d8d4 , arg=3D0xc0840980, cookiep=3D0xc= 0841e14) at bus_if.c:162 #5 0xc0149ef6 in bus_generic_setup_intr (dev=3D0xc082dc80, child=3D0xc0840= c00, irq=3D0x0, flags=3D1, intr=3D0xc012d8d4 , arg=3D0xc0840980, cookiep=3D0xc0841e14) at ../../kern/subr_bus.c:1968 #6 0xc0120178 in BUS_SETUP_INTR (dev=3D0xc082dc80, child=3D0xc0840c00, irq= =3D0x0, flags=3D1, intr=3D0xc012d8d4 , arg=3D0xc0840980, cookiep=3D0xc= 0841e14) at bus_if.c:162 #7 0xc0149ef6 in bus_generic_setup_intr (dev=3D0xc082da80, child=3D0xc0840= c00, irq=3D0x0, flags=3D1, intr=3D0xc012d8d4 , arg=3D0xc0840980, cookiep=3D0xc0841e14) at ../../kern/subr_bus.c:1968 #8 0xc0120178 in BUS_SETUP_INTR (dev=3D0xc082da80, child=3D0xc0840c00, irq= =3D0x0, flags=3D1, intr=3D0xc012d8d4 , arg=3D0xc0840980, cookiep=3D0xc= 0841e14) at bus_if.c:162 #9 0xc026278e in isa_setup_intr (bus=3D0xc082d580, child=3D0xc0840c00, r= =3D0x0, flags=3D1, ihand=3D0xc012d8d4 , arg=3D0xc0840980, cookiep=3D0x= c0841e14) at ../../i386/isa/isa.c:252 #10 0xc0120178 in BUS_SETUP_INTR (dev=3D0xc082d580, child=3D0xc0840c00, irq= =3D0x0, flags=3D1, intr=3D0xc012d8d4 , arg=3D0xc0840980, cookiep=3D0xc= 0841e14) at bus_if.c:162 #11 0xc026645e in ppc_setup_intr (bus=3D0xc0837d80, child=3D0xc0840c00, r= =3D0x0, flags=3D1, ihand=3D0xc012d8d4 , arg=3D0xc0840980, cookiep=3D0x= c0841e14) at ../../isa/ppc.c:1978 #12 0xc0120178 in BUS_SETUP_INTR (dev=3D0xc0837d80, child=3D0xc0840c00, irq= =3D0x0, flags=3D1, intr=3D0xc012d8d4 , arg=3D0xc0840980, cookiep=3D0xc= 0841e14) at bus_if.c:162 #13 0xc012d660 in ppbus_setup_intr (bus=3D0xc0840d00, child=3D0xc0840c00, r= =3D0x0, flags=3D1, ihand=3D0xc012d8d4 , arg=3D0xc0840980, cookiep=3D0x= c0841e14) at ../../dev/ppbus/ppbconf.c:420 #14 0xc0120178 in BUS_SETUP_INTR (dev=3D0xc0840d00, child=3D0xc0840c00, irq= =3D0x0, flags=3D1, intr=3D0xc012d8d4 , arg=3D0xc0840980, cookiep=3D0xc= 0841e14) at bus_if.c:162 #15 0xc012d96c in ppiopen (dev=3D0xc0840980, flags=3D3, fmt=3D8192, p=3D0xc= 5cc5f20) at ../../dev/ppbus/ppi.c:276 #16 0xc0176fc1 in spec_open (ap=3D0xc61d4e10) at ../../miscfs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:191 #17 0xc0176ec1 in spec_vnoperate (ap=3D0xc61d4e10) at ../../miscfs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:117 #18 0xc0220951 in ufs_vnoperatespec (ap=3D0xc61d4e10) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2301 #19 0xc0171ae7 in vn_open (ndp=3D0xc61d4edc, fmode=3D3, cmode=3D1) at vnode= _if.h:189 #20 0xc016dad9 in open (p=3D0xc5cc5f20, uap=3D0xc61d4f80) at ../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:994 #21 0xc025a3b6 in syscall (frame=3D{tf_fs =3D 47, tf_es =3D 47, tf_ds =3D 4= 7, tf_edi =3D -1077936964, tf_esi =3D -1077936972, tf_ebp =3D -107793705= 6, tf_isp =3D -971157548, tf_ebx =3D 1, tf_edx =3D 4, tf_ecx =3D 6720077= 76, tf_eax =3D 5, tf_trapno =3D 12, tf_err =3D 2, tf_eip =3D 671918804, t= f_cs =3D 31, tf_eflags =3D 659, tf_esp =3D -1077937100, tf_ss =3D 47}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1073 #22 0xc024e8b6 in Xint0x80_syscall () #23 0x80483bd in ?? () (kgdb) frame 15 #15 0xc012d96c in ppiopen (dev=3D0xc0840980, flags=3D3, fmt=3D8192, p=3D0xc= 5cc5d80) at ../../dev/ppbus/ppi.c:276 276 BUS_SETUP_INTR(device_get_parent(ppidev), ppidev, p= pi->intr_resource, (kgdb) print (struct ppi_data) ppi $4 =3D {ppi_unit =3D -1065083904, ppi_flags =3D -1065088000, ppi_count =3D -1065088640, ppi_mode =3D -971145884, ppi_buffer =3D "x\001\022A\000\r\204A\000\f\204A\000\000\000\000\001\000\= 000\000O=D8\022A\200\t\204A\024\036\204A\224}\035=C6lU\022A\000\r\204A\000\= f\204A\000\000\000\000\001\000\000\000O=D8\022A\200\t\204A\024\036\204A=E0+= \032=C6\200\t\204A\200]I=C50\t\204A\003\000\000\000\000 \000\000\200]I=C5\0= 00\000\000\000=E0+\032=C6\200\001\000\000=A0m*A\000\000\000\000\000/*A=E0+\= 032=C6\000\000\000\000\200]I=C5=DC}\035=C6An\027A\020~\035=C6=E8}\035=C6Q\t= \"A\020~\035=C6\204~\035=C6=E7\032\027A\020~\035=C6\000\000\000\000\200\177= \035=C6\000=BA\215A=E0+\032=C6$~\035=C6\200\231\215A"..., intr_resource =3D 0xc5cc5d80, intr_cookie =3D 0xc61d7f80} (kgdb) print ppi $5 =3D (struct ppi_data *) 0xc0841c00 (kgdb) print ppi->intr_resource $6 =3D (struct resource *) 0x0 (kgdb) (kgdb) print unit $8 =3D 3229879296 (kgdb) print dev $9 =3D 0xc0840980 > The crash: >=20 > hawk:/home/mike# ./geekport > panic: nexus_setup_intr: NULL irq resource! >=20 > syncing disks... 6 6 > done > Uptime: 3m28s >=20 > dumping to dev #ad/0x20001, offset 73728 > dump ata0: resetting devices .. done > 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 4= 0 > 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 1= 5 > 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 succeeded > Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 1:24:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dart.sr.se (dart.SR.SE [193.12.91.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812CF37B5C9 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 01:24:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: from honken.sr.se ([134.25.128.27]) by dart.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16059 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:19:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: from pluto.sr.se (pluto.SR.SE [134.25.193.91]) by honken.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20708 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:19:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: (from gunnar@localhost) by pluto.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA51490 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:19:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gunnar) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:19:48 +0200 From: Gunnar Flygt To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: make in some of the ports fails Message-ID: <20000421101948.A51376@sr.se> Reply-To: Gunnar Flygt Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I try to build libtool /under /usr/ports/devel in a 3.4-STABLE system. I-ve gotten the latest ports-tree. When it tries to get the file it says ".tar.gz doesn't exist on this system. Trying to fetch" So there is something wrong since it doesn't know what file to get! Earlier in the Makefile's there was a line line that pointed out the full file name. Now this is divided into two lines. One with the name libtool and one with 1.3.4 Anything missing somewhere that should interprete this as libtool-1.3.4? -- __o regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 1:54:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lesbains.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (lesbains.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.12.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0038037BAE5 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 01:54:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de) Received: from informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (brabantio [134.2.12.25]) by lesbains.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7894A5; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:52:37 +0200 (MST) Received: (from sperber@localhost) by informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (AIX4.3/UCB 8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15316; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:52:31 +0200 To: Steven Farmer Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: isa0: unexpected tag 14 References: <14585.60880.852966.430390@catbert.megahack.com> From: sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]) Date: 21 Apr 2000 10:52:31 +0200 In-Reply-To: Steven Farmer's message of "Sun, 16 Apr 2000 11:44:00 -0500 (CDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) XEmacs/21.2 (Kastor & Polydeukes) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for the hints! >>>>> "Steven" == Steven Farmer writes: >>>>> "Michael" == Michael Sperber [Mr Preprocessor] writes: Steven> Even though you may have only the SB isa card, there are other things Steven> on the isa bus, and I'm guessing your hang may be due to a resource Steven> conflict. Maybe a boot -v would help you narrow it down. In a boot -v, the last message before lockup (just after the tag14 message) is: devclass_alloc_unit: ata0 already exists, using next available number devclass_alloc_unit: ata1 already exists, using next available number Does that help determining what's wrong? -- Cheers =8-} Mike Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 2: 4:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns.comrax.com (dns.comrax.com [194.90.246.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E6537B8BE for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 02:04:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noor@comrax.com) Received: from noor (unknown [156.27.243.27]) by dns.comrax.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 884E91C99E for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 12:03:56 +0300 (IDT) From: "Noor Dawod" To: Subject: 4.0-STABLE sources. Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 12:04:22 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, I've cvsup'ed and successfully installed the newest 4.0-STABLE by using the following cvsupfile: *default host=cvsup4.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs *default tag=RELENG_4 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default tag=. src-all src-crypto src-secure src-sys-crypto doc-all ports-all cvs-crypto But, once I rebooted and the server came alive again, it was strange to see the output of uname -a: FreeBSD dns.server.com 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #6: Fri Apr 21 11:52:03 GMT 2000 root@dns.server.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/WWW i386 The cvsup config file uses RELENG_4 which is the 4.0-STABLE branch, is it wrong? What is wrong above, and how can I follow the 4.0-STABLE branch, instead of the 5.0-CURRENT one? Thanks, Noor P.S.: Please CC me on the answer. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 2:17: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ZGIA.zp.ua (ZGIA.zp.ua [212.35.173.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4756C37B966 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 02:16:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from laa@laa.zp.ua) Received: from localhost (laa@localhost) by ZGIA.zp.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02621; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 12:15:27 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from laa@laa.zp.ua) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 12:15:27 +0300 (EEST) From: Alexandr Listopad To: Noor Dawod Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.0-STABLE sources. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Hello all, > >I've cvsup'ed and successfully installed the newest 4.0-STABLE by using the >following cvsupfile: > >*default host=cvsup4.FreeBSD.org >*default base=/usr >*default prefix=/usr >*default release=cvs >*default tag=RELENG_4 ^^^ - 1st >*default delete use-rel-suffix >*default tag=. ^^^ - 2nd. > >src-all >src-crypto >src-secure >src-sys-crypto >doc-all >ports-all >cvs-crypto > >But, once I rebooted and the server came alive again, it was strange to see >the output of uname -a: only last tag will be accepted by cvs, you may try: ------------------------ *default host=cvsup4.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs *default tag=RELENG_4 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-all src-crypto src-secure src-sys-crypto doc-all tag=. ports-all tag=. cvs-crypto --------------------- > >FreeBSD dns.server.com 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #6: Fri Apr 21 >11:52:03 GMT 2000 root@dns.server.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/WWW i386 > >The cvsup config file uses RELENG_4 which is the 4.0-STABLE branch, is it >wrong? >What is wrong above, and how can I follow the 4.0-STABLE branch, instead of >the 5.0-CURRENT one? > >Thanks, >Noor > >P.S.: Please CC me on the answer. > P.S. read carefuly examples!.. ;-) -- Laa. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 2:49:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns.comrax.com (dns.comrax.com [194.90.246.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50C637B638 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 02:49:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noor@comrax.com) Received: from noor (unknown [156.27.243.27]) by dns.comrax.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BA5281C9A2 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 12:49:32 +0300 (IDT) From: "Noor Dawod" To: Subject: 5.0 > 4.0 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 12:49:59 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Thanks for all of you that helped me before. Currently I have sources for 5.0-CURRENT, and I would like to get the 4.0-STABLE sources. If I do a cvsup with the correct cvsupfile config file, will it update the sources to the 4.0-STABLE branch? (i.e., will it "downgrade" the sources?) Thanks. Noor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 3:25:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns.comrax.com (dns.comrax.com [194.90.246.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D5737B577 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 03:25:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noor@comrax.com) Received: from noor (unknown [156.27.243.27]) by dns.comrax.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 790DD1C9A2 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 13:25:21 +0300 (IDT) From: "Noor Dawod" To: Subject: 5.0 > 4.0 > compile Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 13:25:47 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello After downgrading from 5.0 to 4.0 sources, I tried to build a kernel and I got an error: root@dns :/sys/i386/conf# config WWW Don't forget to do a ``make depend'' Kernel build directory is ../../compile/WWW root@dns :/sys/i386/conf# cd ../../compile/WWW/ root@dns :/sys/compile/WWW# make depend make: don't know how to make ../../sys/event.h. Stop What is going wrong? Noor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 3:30:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns.comrax.com (dns.comrax.com [194.90.246.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C62D37B846 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 03:30:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noor@comrax.com) Received: from noor (unknown [156.27.243.27]) by dns.comrax.com (Postfix) with SMTP id AFCD41C9A2 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 13:30:45 +0300 (IDT) From: "Noor Dawod" To: Subject: solved! Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 13:31:12 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Regarding the error I've sent two minutes ago, I solved it. I removed the compile/WWW/ compile directory, config'ed again, then make depend worked. Noor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 3:56:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (tun.AwfulHak.org [194.242.139.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B7937B61F for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 03:56:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA34220; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:52:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04784; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:52:38 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200004211052.LAA04784@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: William Denton Cc: Brian Somers , stable@FreeBSD.org, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: Serial port problems with 4.0 In-Reply-To: Message from William Denton of "Thu, 20 Apr 2000 23:13:41 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:52:37 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On 21 April 2000, Brian Somers wrote: > > : I assume you haven't got any ``set openmode passive'' lines in your > : config. This would certainly cause this. Otherwise, try setting > : ``debug'' and ``physical'' logging. What does it say then ? > > No "openmode passive." Here's the default part of my config, which I > think is straight from the sample: [.....] > CONNECT 115200 > > and then it just sat there like usual. > > : To exercise this, try ``set cd 1!'' and then ``term''. It'll never > : succeed (unless you're already connected). > > It doesn't. > > I hope the stuff above offers some clues to whatever is afflicting my PPP. Not really - it only confirms that nothing is coming back. What happens when you type ~p ? > Thanks. > > Bill > -- > William Denton : Toronto, Canada : http://www.miskatonic.org/ : Caveat lector. -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 4:16:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tranq1.tranquility.net (tranq1.tranquility.net [206.156.230.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F9237B5C1 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 04:16:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ishmael@tranquility.net) Received: from babylon.bsd (ppp-port3-63.tranquility.net [206.152.119.159]) by tranq1.tranquility.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA23666; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 06:16:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (ishmael@localhost) by babylon.bsd (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA01402; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 06:18:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ishmael@tranquility.net) X-Authentication-Warning: babylon.bsd: ishmael owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 06:18:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Ishmael X-Sender: ishmael@localhost To: Michel Talon Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: linprocfs? In-Reply-To: <20000421092213.A389@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG linprocfs was recently removed. it will be put back in at some later point as part of the linux emulation. Jeremy On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Michel Talon wrote: > On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 12:19:09AM +0400, Grigoriy Strokin wrote: > > > > FreeBSD isabase.philol.msu.ru 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Thu Apr 20 > > 17:01:04 MSD 2000 grg@isabase.philol.msu.ru:/usr/src/sys/compile/ISABASE > > i386 > > > > Hello, > > > > In 4.0-STABLE, there is a command mount_linprocfs and man pages > > for it. However, it doesn't work: > > > > $ mount -t linprocfs linproc /compat/linux/proc > > linprocfs: vfsload(linprocfs): No such file or directory > > > > I think this is because there is no linprocfs.ko > > There is such a module on my machine. > FreeBSD rose 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE > #0: Tue Apr 18 17:23:37 CEST 2000 > > -- > Michel Talon > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 4:17:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tranq1.tranquility.net (tranq1.tranquility.net [206.156.230.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17BD37B6DC for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 04:17:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ishmael@tranquility.net) Received: from babylon.bsd (ppp-port3-63.tranquility.net [206.152.119.159]) by tranq1.tranquility.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA23712; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 06:17:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (ishmael@localhost) by babylon.bsd (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA01410; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 06:20:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ishmael@tranquility.net) X-Authentication-Warning: babylon.bsd: ishmael owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 06:20:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Ishmael X-Sender: ishmael@localhost To: Noor Dawod Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5.0 > 4.0 > compile In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG your best off getting the sources from scratch, instead of trying to cvsup your 5.0 sources back to 4.0. Jeremy On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Noor Dawod wrote: > Hello > > After downgrading from 5.0 to 4.0 sources, I tried to build a kernel and I > got an error: > > root@dns :/sys/i386/conf# config WWW > Don't forget to do a ``make depend'' > Kernel build directory is ../../compile/WWW > root@dns :/sys/i386/conf# cd ../../compile/WWW/ > root@dns :/sys/compile/WWW# make depend > make: don't know how to make ../../sys/event.h. Stop > > What is going wrong? > > Noor > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 5:35:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web122.yahoomail.com (web122.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5238137B7DB for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 05:35:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jimbots@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 28627 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Apr 2000 12:35:38 -0000 Message-ID: <20000421123538.28626.qmail@web122.yahoomail.com> Received: from [4.16.116.66] by web122.yahoomail.com; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 05:35:38 PDT Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 05:35:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Stevens Subject: unsubscribe To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG unsubscribe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 5:49:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns.comrax.com (dns.comrax.com [194.90.246.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0822937B62F for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 05:49:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noor@comrax.com) Received: from noor (unknown [156.27.243.27]) by dns.comrax.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8643E1C9A2 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 15:49:13 +0300 (IDT) From: "Noor Dawod" To: Subject: MySQL and 4.0-STABLE. Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 15:49:39 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, After successfully upgrading to 4.0-STABLE, I am trying to rebuild most of the services that drive our Web server. When trying to build MySQL, the compilation process stucks while compiling one of the files. The configure script is: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --sysconfdir=/mysql --localstatedir=/mysql - -with-gnu-ld --with-named-thread-libs='-lc_r' --enable-large-files --with-un ix-socket-path=/mysql/mysql.socket --with-mysqld-user=mysql --without-debug --without-docs --without-bench --without-readline The compilation gets stuck at the following line: c++ -DMYSQL_SERVER -DDEFAULT_MYSQL_HOME="\"/usr/local\" " -DDATADIR="\"/mysql\"" -DSHAREDIR="\"/usr/local/s hare/mysql\"" -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I./../include -I./../regex -I. -I../include -I.. -I. -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O3 -DDBUG_OFF -fno-implicit-te mplates -DMYSQLD_NET_RETRY_COUNT=1000000 -c sql_yacc.cc When I say stuck, it means that the c++ compiler works for 10 minutes without ending the compilation of the file, and in top I can see that c++ is using malloc() and free() as the memory usage is changing as time progresses. The compilation of this file takes a bit long, but not 10 minutes. Pressing Ctrl+C stops the compilation at once. Does anyone have such configuration, and had the same problem? Any idea what is not right? Thanks in advance. Noor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 5:56: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B05737B520 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 05:55:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix, from userid 1016) id 09D8B9EB3; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 08:55:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1A2BCE0; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 08:55:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 08:55:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: cdf.lists@pawn.primelocation.net To: Noor Dawod Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MySQL and 4.0-STABLE. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Noor Dawod wrote: > The compilation gets stuck at the following line: > > c++ -DMYSQL_SERVER -DDEFAULT_MYSQL_HOME="\"/usr/local\" > " -DDATADIR="\"/mysql\"" -DSHAREDIR="\"/usr/local/s > hare/mysql\"" -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I./../include > -I./../regex -I. -I../include -I.. -I. -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D > _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O3 -DDBUG_OFF -fno-implicit-te > mplates -DMYSQLD_NET_RETRY_COUNT=1000000 -c sql_yacc.cc > > When I say stuck, it means that the c++ compiler works for 10 minutes > without ending the compilation of the file, and in top I can see that c++ is > using malloc() and free() as the memory usage is changing as time > progresses. The compilation of this file takes a bit long, but not 10 > minutes. Pressing Ctrl+C stops the compilation at once. > See the -ports list archives for previous discussions of this problem. In particular, it appears to be a bug/problem with gcc's optimizations. If you use -O0 (oh-zero) for optimization on the file (or use the port which does this), it will compile fine. ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 6:44:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns.comrax.com (dns.comrax.com [194.90.246.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8913A37B966 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 06:44:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noor@comrax.com) Received: from noor (unknown [156.27.243.27]) by dns.comrax.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D4851C9A2 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 16:44:13 +0300 (IDT) From: "Noor Dawod" To: Subject: OpenSSL 0.9.4 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 16:44:39 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello again, The 4.0-STABLE comes with OpenSSL 0.9.4 in the base system. There is a 0.9.5a version out, and it's actually in the ports collection. How can I upgrade OpenSSL that comes with the base system to 0.9.5a? Trying to do so from the ports, by the way, yields an error: root@dns :/usr/ports/security/openssl# make ===> openssl-0.9.5a is forbidden: OpenSSL is already in the base system. Your help is greatly appreciated. Noor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 7: 8: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.graphnet.com (mail1.graphnet.com [192.206.112.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F69337B5AC for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 07:08:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from qche@graphnet.com) Received: from graphnet.com (qche.graphnet.com [192.206.112.189]) by mail1.graphnet.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11667 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:09:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <390060BE.9EACA38C@graphnet.com> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:07:58 -0400 From: Qiang Che X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 8: 9: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from watson.grauel.com (watson.grauel.com [199.233.104.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5714037B9CB for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 08:09:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jjr@sparcmill.grauel.com) Received: from sparcmill.grauel.com (sparcmill.grauel.com [199.233.104.34]) by watson.grauel.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA13229 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:09:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jjr@sparcmill.grauel.com) Received: by sparcmill.grauel.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA14022; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:06:38 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:06:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200004211506.KAA14022@sparcmill.grauel.com> From: John J Rieser MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: VScom PCI Multiport cards X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've just loaded FreeBSD 4.0 on a HP Brio 200 (PCI bus for peripherals only). I'd love to get this AST-style ports card configured to run modems and terminals. My experience is limited to the isa version of this card, so I'm in the dark as to what the kernel needs in order to find the card/ports. SIO man page claims: device sio ## is the only thing needed in the kernel. This is supposed to be a plug and pray card..so far I'm only praying! What I've done so far... 1) Turned off appropriate things in BIOS. 2) Made new kernel including pci controller and sio device without setting ports, irqs or the like. 3) Rebooted and searched for pci~anything in dmesg. * this is all I get: ======== pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at 1.0 irq 10 pcib1: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: (vendor=0x14d2, dev=0xa003) at 14.0 irq 10 pci1: (vendor=0x14d2, dev=0xa000) at 14.1 irq 10 isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 atapci0: port 0x1800-0x180f at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at 31.2 irq 11 pci0: (vendor=0x8086, dev=0x2423) at 31.3 irq 9 chip1: port 0x1840-0x187f,0x2000-0x20ff irq 9 at device 31.5 on pci0 ========= Any help in this would be greatly appreciated! John J. Rieser jjr@grauel.com PO Box 6249 Tel: (765)477-6000 \ 100 Sawmill Road x327 Lafayette, IN 47903 (800)489-4891 / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 8:46:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns.comrax.com (dns.comrax.com [194.90.246.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D185D37B9DA for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 08:46:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noor@comrax.com) Received: from localhost (noor@localhost) by dns.comrax.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA29399 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 18:46:38 +0300 (IDT) (envelope-from noor@comrax.com) X-Authentication-Warning: dns.comrax.com: noor owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 18:46:38 +0300 (IDT) From: To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: natd with 4.0-STABLE. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello.. After I upgraded another server of ours, which does natd between two NIC's, trying to activate it yields: root@fw :/tmp# ipfw add 50 divert natd all from any to any via xl1 00050 divert 8668 ip from any to any via xl1 ipfw: setsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument What is wrong??? Thanks, Noor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 9: 1:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9AEC37BA20 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 09:01:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id TAA01175; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 19:01:15 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 19:01:15 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: noor@comrax.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: natd with 4.0-STABLE. Message-ID: <20000421190115.A1125@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: noor@comrax.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from noor@comrax.com on Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 06:46:38PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 06:46:38PM +0300, noor@comrax.com wrote: > > Hello.. > > After I upgraded another server of ours, which does natd between two > NIC's, trying to activate it yields: > > root@fw :/tmp# ipfw add 50 divert natd all from any to any via xl1 > 00050 divert 8668 ip from any to any via xl1 > ipfw: setsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument > > What is wrong??? > You need to compile your kernel with IPFIREWALL and IPDIVERT. ipfw.ko (KLD version) will not work, since it does not have divert(4) bits compiled in by default. -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 9:37:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (adsl-63-202-176-112.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.176.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CFED37BC6B; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 09:37:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02335; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 09:44:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200004211644.JAA02335@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Mike Smith , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: amr still seems to have issues. In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 Apr 2000 00:32:05 PDT." <20000421003205.A25458@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 09:44:35 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > * Mike Smith [000420 11:39] wrote: > > > Hi, we're running 4.0-stable as of Sat Apr 15 18:39:08 PDT 2000 > > > which include the recent amr fixes which we were hoping would cure > > > the lockups with amr. Unfortunatly we are now experiancing reboots, > > > the messages file reveals this: > > > > > > Apr 15 13:31:06 abacus /kernel: amr0: command 31 wedged after 30 seconds > > > > This is extra-bad. Without more feedback from the controller (no > > documentation from AMI yet, sorry. 8() I can only wonder whether you're > > getting a SCSI bus error of some sort that's causing the kernel to time > > these commands out (because the controller is taking too long to respond). > > > > You could try increasing the timeout allowance in amr_periodic(), or just > > disable the poll entirely. This won't help if the controller is really > > dropping commands, though. > > > > > Right now I'm attempting to log off a serial console to see what's > > > going on, however this box has been in production (and doing miserably) > > > for some time now so doing debugging is pretty difficult as well as > > > time consuming where I really need to be working on other issues. > > > > At this point, I have no other ideas, sorry. > > Here's something I hope it helps: Hmm. Looks like I'm not retiring the wedged command correctly. This is a symptom, rather than the real problem, though. See if disabling the command timeout stuff makes the system happy - either these commands are just taking a _long_ time to complete, or you have another problem. I _still_ think you have disk, cable or enclosure issues, but now that you've precipitated this case I can go look at what I'm doing wrong here. Thanks! > amr0: command 40 wedged after 30 seconds > biodone: page busy < 0, pindex: 144, foff: 0x(0,90000), resid: 4096, index: 0 > iosize: 8192, lblkno: 72, flags: 0x30020aa0, npages: 2 > valid: 0xff, dirty: 0x0, wired: 1 > panic: biodone: page busy < 0 > > mp_lock = 01000001; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 00000000 > boot() called on cpu#1 > > syncing disks... > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > mp_lock = 01000002; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 00000000 > fault virtual address = 0x30 > fault code = supervisor read, page not present > instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0226765 > stack pointer = 0x10:0xff80dd9c > frame pointer = 0x10:0xff80dda0 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 > current process = Idle > interrupt mask = bio <- SMP: XXX > trap number = 12 > panic: page fault > mp_lock = 01000002; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 00000000 > boot() called on cpu#1 > Uptime: 2d4h11m39s > amrd0: still open, can't shutdown > > dumping to dev #da/0x20001, offset 128 > dump 1023 1022 Aborting dump due to I/O error. > (da0:ahc1:0:6:0): WRITE(06). CDB: a 7 da f7 8 0 > (da0:ahc1:0:6:0): error code 0 at block no. -964632618 (decimal) > failed, reason: i/o error > Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort > Rebooting... > > Any ideas? > > -- > -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] > "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." > -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 9:49:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isabase.philol.msu.ru (isabase.philol.msu.ru [195.208.217.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2292637BC20 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 09:49:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grg@isabase.philol.msu.ru) Received: (from grg@localhost) by isabase.philol.msu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.2) id UAA29646 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 20:49:47 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from grg) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 20:49:46 +0400 From: Grigoriy Strokin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: bad144 missing? Message-ID: <20000421204946.A29420@isabase.philol.msu.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD isabase.philol.msu.ru 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Thu Apr 20 17:01:04 MSD 2000 grg@isabase.philol.msu.ru:/usr/src/sys/compile/ISABASE i386 Hello, Accidentally, I've found out that /usr/sbin/bad144 in my fbsd 4.0 is dated by December, and there is no bad144 in /usr/src. So, has it disappeared? I have a HDD with bad blocks, how do I find all of them and mark them? I've done newfs, then fsck, fsck reports CANNOT READ: BLK 1114288 CONTINUE? [yn] several times. Apparently, fsck won't mark the blocks it can't read as bad, and therefore some data will be written there and then lost. Am I missing something? How could I achieve functionality that earlier was provided by bad144? -- === Grigoriy Strokin, Lomonosov University (MGU), Moscow === === contact info: http://isabase.philol.msu.ru/~grg/ === To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 10: 2: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA6637B85D for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:01:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@orion.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23846; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:00:24 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Grigoriy Strokin Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bad144 missing? Message-ID: <20000421100024.A20588@orion.ac.hmc.edu> References: <20000421204946.A29420@isabase.philol.msu.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre4i In-Reply-To: <20000421204946.A29420@isabase.philol.msu.ru>; from grg@philol.msu.ru on Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 08:49:46PM +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 08:49:46PM +0400, Grigoriy Strokin wrote: > Accidentally, I've found out that /usr/sbin/bad144 in my fbsd 4.0 > is dated by December, and there is no bad144 in /usr/src. > So, has it disappeared? Yes it has been removed. Modern drives do it for you. By the time you actually see bad blocks your disk is about to die. IIRC, the code was suffering from bitrot and the drives that really needed it will (ESDI and MFM mostly) aren't supported in 5.0. > I have a HDD with bad blocks, how do I find all of them and mark them? > I've done newfs, then fsck, fsck reports > CANNOT READ: BLK 1114288 CONTINUE? [yn] > several times. Apparently, fsck won't mark the blocks it can't read as bad, > and therefore some data will be written there and then lost. > Am I missing something? How could I achieve functionality > that earlier was provided by bad144? Most likely the disk is dead. If it is even remotly modern it has lost so many blocks that it has run out of spares and thus is ready to toss. -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 10: 8:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isabase.philol.msu.ru (isabase.philol.msu.ru [195.208.217.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E4437BA29 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:08:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grg@isabase.philol.msu.ru) Received: (from grg@localhost) by isabase.philol.msu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA29826; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 21:08:31 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from grg) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 21:08:31 +0400 From: Grigoriy Strokin To: Brooks Davis Cc: Grigoriy Strokin , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bad144 missing? Message-ID: <20000421210831.A29789@isabase.philol.msu.ru> References: <20000421204946.A29420@isabase.philol.msu.ru> <20000421100024.A20588@orion.ac.hmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000421100024.A20588@orion.ac.hmc.edu>; from brooks@one-eyed-alien.net on Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 10:00:24AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 10:00:24AM -0700, Brooks Davis wrote: > On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 08:49:46PM +0400, Grigoriy Strokin wrote: > > Accidentally, I've found out that /usr/sbin/bad144 in my fbsd 4.0 > > is dated by December, and there is no bad144 in /usr/src. > > So, has it disappeared? > > Yes it has been removed. Modern drives do it for you. By the time you > actually see bad blocks your disk is about to die. IIRC, the code was > suffering from bitrot and the drives that really needed it will (ESDI > and MFM mostly) aren't supported in 5.0. > > > I have a HDD with bad blocks, how do I find all of them and mark them? > > I've done newfs, then fsck, fsck reports > > CANNOT READ: BLK 1114288 CONTINUE? [yn] > > several times. Apparently, fsck won't mark the blocks it can't read as bad, > > and therefore some data will be written there and then lost. > > Am I missing something? How could I achieve functionality > > that earlier was provided by bad144? > > Most likely the disk is dead. If it is even remotly modern it has lost > so many blocks that it has run out of spares and thus is ready to toss. > > -- Brooks OK, thanks, I'll trow it away then :). However, I had similar problems with another HDD under 3.4, it was Quantum Fireball and it was 'dying' for more than one year. Each time I saw 'hard read/write error' on the console, I ran bad144 -s and the functionality became fine for several months, then I saw the error messages again and so on. -- === Grigoriy Strokin, Lomonosov University (MGU), Moscow === === contact info: http://isabase.philol.msu.ru/~grg/ === To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 10:12:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from odin.egate.net (as2.dm.egate.net [216.235.1.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FD637BA21 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:12:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from buff@pobox.com) Received: from localhost (buff@localhost) by odin.egate.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA49648; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 13:12:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: odin.egate.net: buff owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 13:12:01 -0400 (EDT) From: William Denton X-Sender: buff@odin.egate.net To: Brian Somers Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Serial port problems with 4.0 In-Reply-To: <200004211052.LAA04784@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 21 April 2000, Brian Somers wrote: : Not really - it only confirms that nothing is coming back. What : happens when you type ~p ? This: Packet mode. ppp ON mrs-hudson> Debug: m_dequeue: queue len = 1 Debug: link_Dequeue: Dequeued from queue 1, containing 0 more packets Physical: write Physical: 7e ff 7d 23 c0 21 7d 21 7d 21 7d 20 7d 38 7d 28 ~.}#.!}!}!} }8}( Physical: 7d 22 7d 27 7d 22 7d 22 7d 26 7d 20 7d 20 7d 20 }"}'}"}"}&} } } Physical: 7d 20 7d 21 7d 24 7d 25 dc 7d 25 7d 26 39 3f 7d } }!}$}%.}%}&9?} Physical: 20 95 34 7f 7e .4.~ Debug: deflink: DescriptorWrite: wrote 53(53) to 2 Debug: fsm_Output Debug: 01 01 00 18 08 02 07 02 02 06 00 00 00 00 01 04 ................ Debug: 05 dc 05 06 39 3f 00 95 ....9?.. Debug: proto_LayerPush: Using 0xc021 Debug: link_PushPacket: Transmit proto 0xc021 Debug: m_enqueue: len = 1 [ Repeats the above four or five times ] Debug: deflink: DescriptorWrite: wrote 53(53) to 2 Phase: deflink: Disconnected! Debug: deflink: Close Phase: deflink: Connect time: 45 secs: 0 octets in, 265 octets out Phase: total 5 bytes/sec, peak 21 bytes/sec on Fri Apr 21 13:02:14 2000 Phase: deflink: lcp -> closed And hangs up. Bill -- William Denton : Toronto, Canada : http://www.miskatonic.org/ : Caveat lector. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 10:12:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7FF237BD73 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:12:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@mail.hiwaay.net) Received: (from dkelly@localhost) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e3LHCTb26100; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 12:12:29 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 12:12:29 -0500 (CDT) From: David Kelly Message-Id: <200004211712.e3LHCTb26100@mail.hiwaay.net> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, grg@philol.msu.ru Subject: Re: bad144 missing? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Accidentally, I've found out that /usr/sbin/bad144 in my fbsd 4.0 > is dated by December, and there is no bad144 in /usr/src. > So, has it disappeared? > > I have a HDD with bad blocks, how do I find all of them and mark them? > I've done newfs, then fsck, fsck reports > CANNOT READ: BLK 1114288 CONTINUE? [yn] > several times. Apparently, fsck won't mark the blocks it can't read as bad, > and therefore some data will be written there and then lost. > Am I missing something? How could I achieve functionality > that earlier was provided by bad144? Use badsect(8) to create files(s) containing the bad blocks. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net (hm) ====================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 10:27:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E84D37B618; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:27:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e3LHtdZ15673; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:55:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:55:39 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Mike Smith Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: amr still seems to have issues. Message-ID: <20000421105539.C10782@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20000421003205.A25458@fw.wintelcom.net> <200004211644.JAA02335@mass.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200004211644.JAA02335@mass.cdrom.com>; from msmith@FreeBSD.ORG on Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 09:44:35AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Mike Smith [000421 10:07] wrote: > > * Mike Smith [000420 11:39] wrote: > > > > Hi, we're running 4.0-stable as of Sat Apr 15 18:39:08 PDT 2000 > > > > which include the recent amr fixes which we were hoping would cure > > > > the lockups with amr. Unfortunatly we are now experiancing reboots, > > > > the messages file reveals this: > > > > > > > > Apr 15 13:31:06 abacus /kernel: amr0: command 31 wedged after 30 seconds > > > > > > This is extra-bad. Without more feedback from the controller (no > > > documentation from AMI yet, sorry. 8() I can only wonder whether you're > > > getting a SCSI bus error of some sort that's causing the kernel to time > > > these commands out (because the controller is taking too long to respond). > > > > > > You could try increasing the timeout allowance in amr_periodic(), or just > > > disable the poll entirely. This won't help if the controller is really > > > dropping commands, though. > > > > > > > Right now I'm attempting to log off a serial console to see what's > > > > going on, however this box has been in production (and doing miserably) > > > > for some time now so doing debugging is pretty difficult as well as > > > > time consuming where I really need to be working on other issues. > > > > > > At this point, I have no other ideas, sorry. > > > > Here's something I hope it helps: > > Hmm. Looks like I'm not retiring the wedged command correctly. This is > a symptom, rather than the real problem, though. See if disabling the > command timeout stuff makes the system happy - either these commands are > just taking a _long_ time to complete, or you have another problem. Yes, I've been thinking I may need some firmware upgrade from AMI? I'll look into it. > I _still_ think you have disk, cable or enclosure issues, but now that > you've precipitated this case I can go look at what I'm doing wrong here. > Thanks! Yes this is also a possiblity, the really annoying this is that I can totally kill the controller and nothing happens, but if i leave it alone for any amount of time it seems to blow up on it's own. Maybe I need to get on the phone with thier support people and see if they have any common trouble shooting tips... -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 10:55:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (tun.AwfulHak.org [194.242.139.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828B637B781 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:55:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA38031; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 18:54:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA02491; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 18:53:55 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200004211753.SAA02491@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: William Denton Cc: Brian Somers , stable@FreeBSD.org, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: Serial port problems with 4.0 In-Reply-To: Message from William Denton of "Fri, 21 Apr 2000 13:12:01 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 18:53:55 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On 21 April 2000, Brian Somers wrote: > > : Not really - it only confirms that nothing is coming back. What > : happens when you type ~p ? > > This: > > Packet mode. > ppp ON mrs-hudson> Debug: m_dequeue: queue len = 1 > Debug: link_Dequeue: Dequeued from queue 1, containing 0 more packets > Physical: write [.....] > [ Repeats the above four or five times ] > > Debug: deflink: DescriptorWrite: wrote 53(53) to 2 > Phase: deflink: Disconnected! > Debug: deflink: Close > Phase: deflink: Connect time: 45 secs: 0 octets in, 265 octets out > Phase: total 5 bytes/sec, peak 21 bytes/sec on Fri Apr 21 13:02:14 2000 > Phase: deflink: lcp -> closed > > And hangs up. Well, there's nothing responding at the other end.... I've no idea why not. Did you say you've got access to the other end ? What does physical logging say there ? > Bill > -- > William Denton : Toronto, Canada : http://www.miskatonic.org/ : Caveat lector. -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 12:11:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.forumone.com (orion.forumone.com [207.197.141.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B48C037B865 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 12:11:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adhir@forumone.com) Received: from dipper.forumone.com (dipper.forumone.com [207.197.235.14]) by mail.forumone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6900CAADF for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 15:11:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 15:13:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Alok K. Dhir" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Ontream ADR50 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey all - I'm trying to get an Onstream ADR50 drive working with FreeBSD-stable. I bought the drive because Onstream's site claims that this drive works under FreeBSD (basically, it should act like a 'normal' SCSI tape drive unlike their older line of SCxx drives which don't). Unfortunately, this one isn't working either. I'm hoping the problem is something I'm doing wrong. Anytime I try to do any operation with the drive, I get an "Invalid Argument" error from mt. I.e.: [root@dipper:~] mt rew mt: /dev/nrsa0: Invalid argument The only thing I can do is: [root@dipper:~] mt -f /dev/rsa0.ctl status Mode Density Blocksize bpi Compression Current: default 32768 bytes 0 disabled ---------available modes--------- 0: default 32768 bytes 0 0x3 1: default 32768 bytes 0 0x3 2: default 32768 bytes 0 0x3 3: default 32768 bytes 0 0x3 --------------------------------- Current Driver State: at rest. Anything else with the drive, including dump, tar, etc, ends with an error. In dump's case, its something like 'could not open output'. I'm guessing the problem has something to do with our sa driver. Can anyone suggest a workaround other than returning the drive? Thanks Al To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 13: 6:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from outlier.axl.net (outlier.axl.net [216.66.11.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 174F337B975 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 13:06:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@axl.net) Received: (qmail 15146 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2000 20:06:16 -0000 Received: from ws-01.matthennigus.lightningdsl.net (HELO sinister) (216.66.30.66) by outlier.axl.net with SMTP; 21 Apr 2000 20:06:16 -0000 From: "Matthew B. Henniges" To: "Joseph Scott" Cc: Subject: RE: nat redirection Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 16:09:29 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <38FCE69F.23AEC923@owp.csus.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Split DNS worked great. Thanks guys! Matthew B. Henniges CoPresident Axl.net Communications http://www.axl.net (203) 552-1714 -----Original Message----- From: scottj@pebkac.owp.csus.edu [mailto:scottj@pebkac.owp.csus.edu]On Behalf Of Joseph Scott Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 6:50 PM To: Matthew B. Henniges Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nat redirection "Matthew B. Henniges" wrote: > > So far, so good. Heres the problem: > > there are various DNS entries that point to 216.66.11.90 and 91. > If one of the clients on 10.0.1.* tries to browse/ftp to one of these, it > can't connect because the natd redirection to those only listens on the > outside nic. > > What is the best way to solve this problem? > > My thoughts were: > > 1. using some ipfw fwd rules... This seems to me like it should work, > thought I was unable to get it working. > > or > > 2. give different replies to the 10.0.1 network than I give to everybody > else.. > > Anybody have any ideas? I'm far from an expert on such matters, but I've been faced with the same thing multiple times. After reading through various lists I believe that your "option 2" in generally considered the correct way to deal with it. That's how I've got one of our networks dealing with it. In case you are searching list archives or something I believe the term you want is "split dns". The idea is simply that you have an internal dns server resolving to your private 10.x.x.x network and an external dns resolving to your outside ips. The general feelings from people dealing with these issues seems to be that split dns is also usually the easiest way to deal with this, even though it does involve running another box and maintaining two sets of dns records. -- Joseph Scott joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu Office Of Water Programs - CSU Sacramento To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 13: 7: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3DB37BD94; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 13:06:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e3LKZI420278; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 13:35:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 13:35:17 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Mike Smith Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: amr still seems to have issues. Message-ID: <20000421133517.I10782@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20000421003205.A25458@fw.wintelcom.net> <200004211644.JAA02335@mass.cdrom.com> <20000421105539.C10782@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000421105539.C10782@fw.wintelcom.net>; from bright@wintelcom.net on Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 10:55:39AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Alfred Perlstein [000421 10:57] wrote: > * Mike Smith [000421 10:07] wrote: > > > * Mike Smith [000420 11:39] wrote: > > > > > Hi, we're running 4.0-stable as of Sat Apr 15 18:39:08 PDT 2000 > > > > > which include the recent amr fixes which we were hoping would cure > > > > > the lockups with amr. Unfortunatly we are now experiancing reboots, > > > > > the messages file reveals this: > > > > > > > > > > Apr 15 13:31:06 abacus /kernel: amr0: command 31 wedged after 30 seconds > > > > Hmm. Looks like I'm not retiring the wedged command correctly. This is > > a symptom, rather than the real problem, though. See if disabling the > > command timeout stuff makes the system happy - either these commands are > > just taking a _long_ time to complete, or you have another problem. > > Yes, I've been thinking I may need some firmware upgrade from AMI? > > I'll look into it. Ok, the latest firmware is the uf80-1.61, which is on the card. > > > I _still_ think you have disk, cable or enclosure issues, but now that > > you've precipitated this case I can go look at what I'm doing wrong here. > > Thanks! I'm looking into the enclosure issues. I appreciate the continued help from you. I was wondering if anyone else on the lists have had the same problems as I have been having with the Enterprise 1200 (3 scsi port) version. I'm really not using all that much disk throughput. I'll have that iostat log the next time it keels over. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 13:53:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from odin.egate.net (as2.dm.egate.net [216.235.1.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCFE637BA5C for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 13:53:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from buff@pobox.com) Received: from localhost (buff@localhost) by odin.egate.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA61285; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 16:53:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: odin.egate.net: buff owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 16:53:14 -0400 (EDT) From: William Denton X-Sender: buff@odin.egate.net To: Brian Somers Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Serial port problems with 4.0 In-Reply-To: <200004211753.SAA02491@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 21 April 2000, Brian Somers wrote: : Well, there's nothing responding at the other end.... I've no idea : why not. Did you say you've got access to the other end ? What does : physical logging say there ? I do work for the ISP I use, but they don't log anything before a login happens. A friend suggested I see what happens with cu, in case the problem wasn't with ppp but lower, and it turns out cu freezes after connecting, too. It dials up, handshakes, connects, then just sits there. I tried cu on the working system and got the the login prompt as usual. So neither ppp nor cu is able to see any data coming down from the other end. Could this be a problem with the serial port drivers in 4.0? Bill -- William Denton : Toronto, Canada : http://www.miskatonic.org/ : Caveat lector. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 14: 9:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B7237BA63; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 14:09:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA39388; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 14:09:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 14:09:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Noor Dawod Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenSSL 0.9.4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Noor Dawod wrote: > The 4.0-STABLE comes with OpenSSL 0.9.4 in the base system. There is a > 0.9.5a version out, and it's actually in the ports collection. How can I > upgrade OpenSSL that comes with the base system to 0.9.5a? Trying to do so > from the ports, by the way, yields an error: OpenSSL 0.9.5a has some problems on Alpha (actually vice versa), once those are fixed it will be upgraded in the base. If you need 0.9.5a in the meantime you could try removing the "FORBIDDEN" line and trying again. Note that ports will still compile themselves against the base system version, to avoid problems if the ports version happened to be old or incompatible. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 14:48:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE3537B865; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 14:48:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA43282; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 14:48:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 14:48:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Gunnar Flygt Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: make in some of the ports fails In-Reply-To: <20000421101948.A51376@sr.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Gunnar Flygt wrote: > I try to build libtool /under /usr/ports/devel in a 3.4-STABLE system. > I-ve gotten the latest ports-tree. When it tries to get the file it says > ".tar.gz doesn't exist on this system. Trying to fetch" So there is > something wrong since it doesn't know what file to get! Make sure you have the latest bsd.port.mk, i.e. that your are cvsupping the "ports-base" collection. SOmething in your ports collection seems out of date. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 17:12:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wallace.i.nutt.net.au (utopia.nutt.net.au [203.25.185.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2084A37BAA7 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 17:11:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hostmaster@mtloftyhistsoc.asn.au) Received: from localhost (jarrod@localhost) by wallace.i.nutt.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15235 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 09:47:49 +0930 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: wallace.i.nutt.net.au: jarrod owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 09:47:48 +0930 (CST) From: Jarrod X-Sender: jarrod@wallace.i.nutt.net.au To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Uncontrolable Rebooting 4.0-R Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Using a 4.0-R base system with IPFIREWALL compiled into the kernel. Around every second day, this machine reboots for no reason. Im not at work when the machine reboots or I am and im too late. No error messages appear in /var/log/messages so I cant explain why. Is there any way of dumping messages sent to the console to a /var/log/console file so I can flick through it? On another matter that may or may not be related, when the machine boots up, the following appears at the bottom of the screen and dmesg. ad0: 4125MB [8940/15/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a ad0: READ command timeout - resetting ata0: resetting devices .. done ad0: READ command timeout - resetting ata0: resetting devices .. done ad0: READ command timeout - resetting ata0: resetting devices .. done ad0: READ command timeout - resetting ata0-master: WARNING: WAIT_READY active=ATA_ACTIVE_ATA ata0-master: timeout waiting for command=ef s=00 e=00 ad0: trying fallback to PIO mode ata0: resetting devices .. done WARNING: / was not properly dismounted It wasnt properly dismounted as the machine has rebooted thismorning. This reboot was quick, printing everything above, on other ocassions the 'ad0: READ command timeout - resetting' flashes on the screen 750+ times (according to the 'last message repeated xxx times' in /var/log/messages). Whats the cause of all this? Cheers, Jarrod -- Jarrod Sayers (hostmaster@mtloftyhistsoc.asn.au) Information Technology Manager Mount Lofty Districts Historical Society, Inc. http://www.mtloftyhistsoc.asn.au/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 17:25:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.kpi.com.au (www.kpi.com.au [203.39.132.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B466537BE6D for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 17:24:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from johnsa@kpi.com.au) Received: from kpi.com.au (localhost.kpi.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by www.kpi.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21579; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:24:28 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from johnsa@kpi.com.au) Message-ID: <3900F182.5A010AD0@kpi.com.au> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:25:38 +1000 From: Andrew Johns Organization: KPI Logistics Pty. Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jarrod Cc: FreeBSD-Stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Uncontrolable Rebooting 4.0-R References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There have been several issues with certain UDMA controllers (some of the VIA motherboards IIRC). Check back through the lists. I believe the solution was to disable UDMA on those drives via /etc/rc I also believe that a fix has been created and put in 4.0-STABLE but I see that you're running -RELEASE so you would not have it in your system, yet :) HTH Jarrod wrote: > > Hi, > > Using a 4.0-R base system with IPFIREWALL compiled into the kernel. > Around every second day, this machine reboots for no reason. Im not at > work when the machine reboots or I am and im too late. No error messages > appear in /var/log/messages so I cant explain why. Is there any way of > dumping messages sent to the console to a /var/log/console file so I can > flick through it? > > On another matter that may or may not be related, when the machine boots > up, the following appears at the bottom of the screen and dmesg. > > ad0: 4125MB [8940/15/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33 > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > ata0: resetting devices .. done > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > ata0: resetting devices .. done > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > ata0: resetting devices .. done > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > ata0-master: WARNING: WAIT_READY active=ATA_ACTIVE_ATA > ata0-master: timeout waiting for command=ef s=00 e=00 > ad0: trying fallback to PIO mode > ata0: resetting devices .. done > WARNING: / was not properly dismounted > > It wasnt properly dismounted as the machine has rebooted thismorning. > This reboot was quick, printing everything above, on other ocassions the > 'ad0: READ command timeout - resetting' flashes on the screen 750+ times > (according to the 'last message repeated xxx times' in /var/log/messages). > > Whats the cause of all this? > > Cheers, > > Jarrod > > -- > Jarrod Sayers (hostmaster@mtloftyhistsoc.asn.au) > > Information Technology Manager > Mount Lofty Districts Historical Society, Inc. > http://www.mtloftyhistsoc.asn.au/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- ---------------------\ Andrew Johns BSc. \ Principal Consultant \ KPI Logistics Pty Ltd \ mailto:johnsa@kpi.com.au \ http://www.kpi.com.au \ How do I set this laser printer to stun? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 17:57:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lcremeans.erols.com (lcremeans.erols.com [216.164.87.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7039D37BE45 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 17:57:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lee@lcremeans.erols.com) Received: (from lee@localhost) by lcremeans.erols.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA67588; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 20:56:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lee) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 20:56:44 -0400 From: Lee Cremeans To: Andrew Johns Cc: Jarrod , FreeBSD-Stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Uncontrolable Rebooting 4.0-R Message-ID: <20000421205644.A67570@lcremeans.erols.com> References: <3900F182.5A010AD0@kpi.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3900F182.5A010AD0@kpi.com.au>; from johnsa@kpi.com.au on Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 10:25:38AM +1000 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE Organization: My room? Are you crazy? :) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 10:25:38AM +1000, Andrew Johns wrote: > There have been several issues with certain UDMA controllers (some of > the VIA motherboards IIRC). Check back through the lists. > > I believe the solution was to disable UDMA on those drives via /etc/rc > > I also believe that a fix has been created and put in 4.0-STABLE but > I see that you're running -RELEASE so you would not have it in your > system, yet :) > Also: > > ad0: 4125MB [8940/15/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33 According to past messages I've seen about this, it seems that Fujitsu's UDMA drives have some problems with running in UDMA mode. Again, the workaround is to run the drive in PIO mode. -lee -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on WTnet) | | lcremeans@erols.com | http://wakky.dyndns.org/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 18:25:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (tun.AwfulHak.org [194.242.139.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE23A37BABA for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 18:25:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA00367; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 02:24:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA46234; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 02:24:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200004220124.CAA46234@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: William Denton Cc: Brian Somers , stable@FreeBSD.org, brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org Subject: Re: Serial port problems with 4.0 In-Reply-To: Message from William Denton of "Fri, 21 Apr 2000 16:53:14 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 02:24:31 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On 21 April 2000, Brian Somers wrote: > > : Well, there's nothing responding at the other end.... I've no idea > : why not. Did you say you've got access to the other end ? What does > : physical logging say there ? > > I do work for the ISP I use, but they don't log anything before a login > happens. > > A friend suggested I see what happens with cu, in case the problem wasn't > with ppp but lower, and it turns out cu freezes after connecting, too. It > dials up, handshakes, connects, then just sits there. I tried cu on the > working system and got the the login prompt as usual. > > So neither ppp nor cu is able to see any data coming down from the other > end. Could this be a problem with the serial port drivers in 4.0? I've done a bit of testing here with a 4.0-stable and 5.0-current box and everything seems to be sane. Perhaps there's a problem between your modem and the ISP.... I think the only thing to do at this point is to swap bits in & out 'till you find the culprit. You could try booting an older kernel on your 4.0 box, and maybe even try another modem there. > Bill > -- > William Denton : Toronto, Canada : http://www.miskatonic.org/ : Caveat lector. -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! 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COLLABORATE WITH US, NOT PRESSING TO THE SERVERS AND PROVIDERS, IN THIS WAY EVERYONE THAT DESIRE IT TO BE ABLE TO DROP OF THE LIST ___________________________________________________________ COMUNIQUENOS SI ALGUN LINK NO FUNCIONA. GRACIAS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 21:13:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7006337B602 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 21:13:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA00847 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 14:13:21 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 14:13:17 +1000 From: Jonathan Michaels To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bad144 missing? Message-ID: <20000422141316.A792@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000421204946.A29420@isabase.philol.msu.ru> <20000421100024.A20588@orion.ac.hmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <20000421100024.A20588@orion.ac.hmc.edu>; from Brooks Davis on Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 10:00:24AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 10:00:24AM -0700, Brooks Davis wrote: > On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 08:49:46PM +0400, Grigoriy Strokin wrote: > > Accidentally, I've found out that /usr/sbin/bad144 in my fbsd 4.0 > > is dated by December, and there is no bad144 in /usr/src. > > So, has it disappeared? > > Yes it has been removed. Modern drives do it for you. By the time you my "modern drive" dosen't, it is a 1992 fujitsu 345 mb esdi with 6 bad sectors in the manufactuers 'bad blocks table' that even after some sever abuse over the years has failed to add one bad block ... unlke the so called new rubbish that drops bad blocks as soon as you look at it or breat in its direction. some of us freebsd users canot afford to upgrade every time the rich deside to follow a new whim .. what are we going to do ? freebsd is becomin a toy for the "rich americans" it may have had good begining and tradition but now its just another way to sell cdroms other paraphenalia and of cources now that bsdi is involved service cntracts for freebsd and that other old war horse bsd/os .. both hobbled together both strugling bith now suffering under the weight of popular opinion. it is a sad day when a project becomes driven by populism as opposed to the tenents of development it lauds so highly. take care sooner or latter people will wake up and start asking one simple question 'is this teh freebsd i want?', when the answer come back no they will start to look eslewhere. > actually see bad blocks your disk is about to die. IIRC, the code was > suffering from bitrot and the drives that really needed it will (ESDI > and MFM mostly) aren't supported in 5.0. and what of all the people who still use this kind of hardware ? what are they supposed to do ? take care -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 22:32:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ddg.com (eunuch.ddg.com [216.30.58.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E362F37BA97 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 22:32:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rkw@dataplex.net) Received: from nomad.dataplex.net (24.28.73.209) by mail.ddg.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.1); Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:32:15 -0500 From: Richard Wackerbarth To: Jonathan Michaels Subject: Re: bad144 missing? Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:32:14 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.40] Content-Type: text/plain References: <20000421204946.A29420@isabase.philol.msu.ru> <20000421100024.A20588@orion.ac.hmc.edu> <20000422141316.A792@phoenix.welearn.com.au> In-Reply-To: <20000422141316.A792@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00042200321400.00340@nomad.dataplex.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Jonathan Michaels wrote: > > IIRC, the code was > > suffering from bitrot and the drives that really needed it will (ESDI > > and MFM mostly) aren't supported in 5.0. > > and what of all the people who still use this kind of hardware ? > > what are they supposed to do ? 1) Continue to run FreeBSD 3.x. It's still a very good OS. 2) Buy new hardware. It is getting cheaper every year. 3) Write new versions of the drivers. The drives are not being dropped because anyone objects to them, but rather that there has been no one who cares about them enough to maintain the code. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 22:45:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D21537B516; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 22:45:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA00895; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 01:45:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 01:45:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: FreeBSD-CURRENT Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: missing functionality In-Reply-To: <20000422141316.A792@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This thread began on -STABLE; I am moving it to -CURRENT and have crossposted. Please, followups to -CURRENT. On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, Jonathan Michaels wrote: >> actually see bad blocks your disk is about to die. IIRC, the code was >> suffering from bitrot and the drives that really needed it will (ESDI >> and MFM mostly) aren't supported in 5.0. > >and what of all the people who still use this kind of hardware ? I hate to have to ride on the heels of this scathing piece of criticism, but I'm confident that the other members of the lists will probably eat this guy alive. With that I leave Mr. Michaels to defend himself and move on with a new thread. The removal of kernel support for so-called winchester devices from HEAD is a bit of a perplexing issue for me. On the one hand I understand the multifold advantages of the new ata driver and appreciate it enormously. However, FreeBSD just went ahead with its first release to include support for the MCA bus. The vast majority of MCA bus machines in existence utilize ESDI because they predate the UDMA and ATA66 efforts. If we are to support MCA, how can we drop support for ESDI? I know that the wd driver duplicates a significant amount of the funtionality now present in ata and that having both of them in the kernel would be of questionable value to most users. Surely there must be some middle ground which would include support for ESDI, MFM, RLL, and XT hardcards in a seperate driver, without duplicating the functionality of ata and creating code bloat. I am not familiar with the wd driver as it stands now or if the above is possible, but I would like some feedback on just what issues currently surround the atticizing of wd without replacing its functionality. Brandon D. Valentine -- "...and as for hackers, we note that all of those known to The Register are so strapped financially that seizing their property would be tantamount to squeezing blood from a stone." -- The Register, 02/17/2000 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 21 22:52:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3867337B60F for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 22:52:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01245 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 15:52:33 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 15:52:30 +1000 From: Jonathan Michaels To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bad144 missing? Message-ID: <20000422155228.E792@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Reply-To: jon@welearn.com.au Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000421204946.A29420@isabase.philol.msu.ru> <20000421100024.A20588@orion.ac.hmc.edu> <20000422141316.A792@phoenix.welearn.com.au> <00042200321400.00340@nomad.dataplex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <00042200321400.00340@nomad.dataplex.net>; from Richard Wackerbarth on Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 12:32:14AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 12:32:14AM -0500, Richard Wackerbarth wrote: > On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Jonathan Michaels wrote: > > > IIRC, the code was > > > suffering from bitrot and the drives that really needed it will (ESDI > > > and MFM mostly) aren't supported in 5.0. > > > > and what of all the people who still use this kind of hardware ? > > > > what are they supposed to do ? > > 1) Continue to run FreeBSD 3.x. It's still a very good OS. i'm currently at freebsd v2.2.7-release .. what worries me are the security fixes i cannot make because freebsd v2.x is concidered dead meat. > 2) Buy new hardware. It is getting cheaper every year. this may be the case, but i and of those whom i speak are limited to beging, you know the kind where you take your dignity in your hand and grovel for whatever garbage the "rich" people are throwing out because it is no longer fashionable. > 3) Write new versions of the drivers. The drives are not being > dropped because anyone objects to them, but rather that there > has been no one who cares about them enough to maintain > the code. if i could i would be at the top of the list and i would be churning out code faster (with more reliablity than most of the current "wheenies"). now if i was in a position to be able to do that then i wouldn't be on teh invalid pension, because i wouldn't have the severly disabling medical deficiencies that i currently tdo have and i would be able t earn a living and i probaly would still be churning out real code in os-9 and or qnx. also, i know several groups of people who are in this exact same situation, i have for years been selling them the line that freebsd is our only hope because it supports the hardware that we can get .. now i have to tell them that we are beeing adandoned like so much garbage because we cannot put in our "pound of flesh". like the ripples on teh pond, who knows were thes small waves will end up, who know what will be the end result ? my grandmother used to teach me that helping people who couldn't help themselves was an end in and of itself, but then again she valued human dignity .. pity, we no longer concider those as adequate reasons to do the things that we do. thank you for your post richard, it is apreciated. regards jonathan -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 22 0:36:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763F937B82A for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:36:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@orion.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA20250; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:36:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:36:38 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Jonathan Michaels Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bad144 missing? Message-ID: <20000422003638.A13562@orion.ac.hmc.edu> References: <20000421204946.A29420@isabase.philol.msu.ru> <20000421100024.A20588@orion.ac.hmc.edu> <20000422141316.A792@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre4i In-Reply-To: <20000422141316.A792@phoenix.welearn.com.au>; from jon@welearn.com.au on Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 02:13:17PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 02:13:17PM +1000, Jonathan Michaels wrote: > my "modern drive" dosen't, it is a 1992 fujitsu 345 mb esdi > with 6 bad sectors in the manufactuers 'bad blocks table' that > even after some sever abuse over the years has failed to add > one bad block ... unlke the so called new rubbish that drops > bad blocks as soon as you look at it or breat in its direction. Something made eight years ago isn't modern in this industry. It wasn't even particularly modern then. My parents had a machine with IDE disks before '92. > some of us freebsd users canot afford to upgrade every time the > rich deside to follow a new whim .. what are we going to do ? 3.x is a great version, it's got bad block support. I can't think of any good reasons to upgrade a box so old it has an esdi disk in it to 4.0. Most of the visiable improvements are for server class machines or in crypto integration. A machine with isn't a server class machine and proably wasn't even in '92. Cryto code an a circa '92 machine is going to hurt. A lot. > take care sooner or latter people will wake up and start asking > one simple question 'is this teh freebsd i want?', when the > answer come back no they will start to look eslewhere. If people ask themselves that question and the answer comes up no, then by all means, they should look elsewhere. FreeBSD *CAN* *NOT* be all things to all people. I use FreeBSD almost exclusivly and push it to anyone who will listen and could use it, but there are things I wouldn't or couldn't do with it. For instance, I wouldn't try to fit it onto devices so primitive they don't have VM hardware (i.e. a Palm Pilot) and I certaintly wouldn't try to run a major financial institution's account database on it. See my sig. > and what of all the people who still use this kind of hardware ? > > what are they supposed to do ? As I mentioned above, run 3.4 or even 2.2.8 depending on your needs. -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 22 0:55:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25CDB37B7D1 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:55:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@orion.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA26100; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:55:23 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Jonathan Michaels Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bad144 missing? Message-ID: <20000422005523.A22737@orion.ac.hmc.edu> References: <20000421204946.A29420@isabase.philol.msu.ru> <20000421100024.A20588@orion.ac.hmc.edu> <20000422141316.A792@phoenix.welearn.com.au> <20000422003638.A13562@orion.ac.hmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre4i In-Reply-To: <20000422003638.A13562@orion.ac.hmc.edu>; from brooks@one-eyed-alien.net on Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 12:36:38AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 12:36:38AM -0700, Brooks Davis wrote: > On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 02:13:17PM +1000, Jonathan Michaels wrote: > > and what of all the people who still use this kind of hardware ? > > > > what are they supposed to do ? > > As I mentioned above, run 3.4 or even 2.2.8 depending on your needs. For those who need an OS that runs on what ever they can get their hands on, I strongly recommend looking at NetBSD. FreeBSD has traditionaly been a server and, to a lesser extent, workstation OS. NetBSD's claim to fame is that it runs on everything. It will probably support ESDI, MFM, and RLL disks long after they are practicaly unavilable at third or forth hand at flea markets and swap meets because that's the way they are. Quoting the quote at the top of NetBSD's web site: ``Of course it runs NetBSD.'' That's not FreeBSD's nitch. Please don't think I'm trying to drive you away. I'm just attempting to point out that this is one of those cases where FreeBSD may not be the answer, but BSD is still the answer. ;-) -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 22 1:18: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay01.chello.nl (smtp.chello.nl [212.83.68.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA0F037B550 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 01:18:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay01.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 99c8f334c649856e3f2cdadc4054e412) with ESMTP id <20000422081809.EZBB485.relay01@chello.nl>; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:18:09 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA06796; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:18:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:18:01 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Jonathan Michaels Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bad144 missing? Message-ID: <20000422101801.A6763@yedi.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: <20000421204946.A29420@isabase.philol.msu.ru> <20000421100024.A20588@orion.ac.hmc.edu> <20000422141316.A792@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000422141316.A792@phoenix.welearn.com.au>; from jon@welearn.com.au on Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 02:13:17PM +1000 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 02:13:17PM +1000, Jonathan Michaels wrote: > On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 10:00:24AM -0700, Brooks Davis wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 08:49:46PM +0400, Grigoriy Strokin wrote: > > > Accidentally, I've found out that /usr/sbin/bad144 in my fbsd 4.0 > > > is dated by December, and there is no bad144 in /usr/src. > > > So, has it disappeared? > > > > Yes it has been removed. Modern drives do it for you. By the time you > > my "modern drive" dosen't, it is a 1992 fujitsu 345 mb esdi > with 6 bad sectors in the manufactuers 'bad blocks table' that > even after some sever abuse over the years has failed to add > one bad block ... unlke the so called new rubbish that drops > bad blocks as soon as you look at it or breat in its direction. > ... > > actually see bad blocks your disk is about to die. IIRC, the code was > > suffering from bitrot and the drives that really needed it will (ESDI > > and MFM mostly) aren't supported in 5.0. > > and what of all the people who still use this kind of hardware ? > > what are they supposed to do ? This discussion has been brought up before over and over again (I did bring it up once). But at this point there is only one workaround left: run an old version of FreeBSD that has the desired bad144 functionality. Or add bad144 onto 5.x/4.x yourself. But don't be surprised if it would not accepted in the main code repository. W/ -- Wilko Bulte Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 22 2:10:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (tun.AwfulHak.org [194.242.139.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8863E37B651 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 02:10:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04595; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:06:11 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA50235; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:06:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200004220906.KAA50235@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Alexander Frolkin Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: portmap strangeness In-Reply-To: Message from Alexander Frolkin of "Fri, 21 Apr 2000 01:40:50 BST." <20000421014049.A2573@gamma> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:06:21 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In /usr/src/usr.sbin/portmap, can you cc -o from_local -DTEST from_local.c ./from_local and see how this compares to the output of ifconfig -a ? If this finds all the interface addresses after lp0, then there *should* be no problems. > Hi, > > Upon further investigation of the NFS problem ("can't register mount"), I've > found that portmap does not seem to work correctly, and consequently, no RPC > services can register, if lp0 is ifconfig'd to down. If I ifconfig it to up, > and restart portmap, it works fine. There isn't anything actually connected > to the other end of lp0, if that makes a difference. > > Is this a known problem, and has it been corrected (since 1st April, when I > last cvsupped RELENG_4) ? > > > Alexander. -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 22 2:43:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D3537B516 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 02:42:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01883; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 19:42:42 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 19:42:39 +1000 From: Jonathan Michaels To: David Kelly Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bad144 missing? Message-ID: <20000422194236.C1737@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Reply-To: jon@welearn.com.au Mail-Followup-To: David Kelly , stable@freebsd.org References: <200004211712.e3LHCTb26100@mail.hiwaay.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <200004211712.e3LHCTb26100@mail.hiwaay.net>; from David Kelly on Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 12:12:29PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG david and all who sent me email, thank you for your responces and support, i apreciate your candor and assistance. one other thing, i have been offered a pair of adaptec aha-1542b scsi host adapters to plug into the isa bus of my i386dx33's, also i have been given a pair of i486dx33 with 16 mb dram. i will be able to use my 386's as tinybsd platforms (a router and one for backup) with the two i486dx33's as the 'servers'. i've also gotten a pair of pci scsi host adapters (an adaptec 2940uw and a buslogic bt940-fastwide-ultra) and parts of a pair of soon to be pentium pro based servers .. just gotta get some processors and dram. as a freind of mine said to me once 'see, jonathan, thier are still some good people in the freebsd world'. well i'd better sign off now .. finally a warm thank you to those who wernt frightend off by teh jonathan michaels byeline and wrote with constructive suggestions, as well as the offers of hardware. thier are some dozen or so disabled people (aprt from myself) who apreciate the assistance rendered. On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 12:12:29PM -0500, David Kelly wrote: > > Accidentally, I've found out that /usr/sbin/bad144 in my fbsd 4.0 > > is dated by December, and there is no bad144 in /usr/src. > > So, has it disappeared? > > > > I have a HDD with bad blocks, how do I find all of them and mark them? > > I've done newfs, then fsck, fsck reports > > CANNOT READ: BLK 1114288 CONTINUE? [yn] > > several times. Apparently, fsck won't mark the blocks it can't read as bad, > > and therefore some data will be written there and then lost. > > Am I missing something? How could I achieve functionality > > that earlier was provided by bad144? > > Use badsect(8) to create files(s) containing the bad blocks. noted and diarised, with thanks. warm regards jonathan -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 22 6:39:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isabase.philol.msu.ru (isabase.philol.msu.ru [195.208.217.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC85937B664 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 06:39:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grg@isabase.philol.msu.ru) Received: (from grg@localhost) by isabase.philol.msu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.2) id RAA39957; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 17:39:10 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from grg) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 17:39:10 +0400 From: Grigoriy Strokin To: Jarrod Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, imp@village.org Subject: Re: Uncontrolable Rebooting 4.0-R Message-ID: <20000422173910.A39896@isabase.philol.msu.ru> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from hostmaster@mtloftyhistsoc.asn.au on Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 09:47:48AM +0930 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 09:47:48AM +0930, Jarrod wrote: > Hi, > > Using a 4.0-R base system with IPFIREWALL compiled into the kernel. > Around every second day, this machine reboots for no reason. Im not at > work when the machine reboots or I am and im too late. No error messages > appear in /var/log/messages so I cant explain why. Is there any way of > dumping messages sent to the console to a /var/log/console file so I can > flick through it? > > On another matter that may or may not be related, when the machine boots > up, the following appears at the bottom of the screen and dmesg. > > ad0: 4125MB [8940/15/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33 > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > ata0: resetting devices .. done > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > ata0: resetting devices .. done > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > ata0: resetting devices .. done > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > ata0-master: WARNING: WAIT_READY active=ATA_ACTIVE_ATA > ata0-master: timeout waiting for command=ef s=00 e=00 > ad0: trying fallback to PIO mode > ata0: resetting devices .. done > WARNING: / was not properly dismounted > > It wasnt properly dismounted as the machine has rebooted thismorning. > This reboot was quick, printing everything above, on other ocassions the > 'ad0: READ command timeout - resetting' flashes on the screen 750+ times > (according to the 'last message repeated xxx times' in /var/log/messages). A couple of weeks ago there was a thread called New kernel with its ATA drivers damages the filesystem Your case is clearly related to this problem To the maintainer of /usr/src/UPDATING: As far as I know, this problem has not been addressed yet. So I wonder, why on the earth /usr/src/UPDATING still doesn't have a recommendation to use sysctl -w hw.atamodes=pio,pio,pio,pio at the beginning of /etc/rc and there is no warning about the risks related to use the ATA driver in such cases? I am merely a user. You the core team say the users should put their 10 cents or whatever they could to the development. My 10 cents was a suggestion we discussed earlier to UPDATING, but those are thrown away, as are some of my send-prs and even patchs (not related to this problem). This is rather frustrating. As for sysctl -w hw.atamodes=pio,pio,pio,pio, I do use it and live with 4.0 quite happily, but sometimes see a strange FreeBSD behaviour similar to one described above: 1) sometimes, after a clean shutdown, there is a message WARNING: / was not properly dismounted 2) sometimes, just after the message 'mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s3a' I see '/sbin/iu4yefbkljhf: not found, 'iu4yefbkljhf' is varying random string. The system doesn't go multi-user in such cases. Then I turn the machine off and on again, and the system boots fine I suppose that some nasty things happen to happen just after the kernel is booted and before sysctl -w hw.atamodes=pio,pio,pio,pio from /etc/rc is executed, and also during the system shutdown. They happen seldom, but they do. -- === Grigoriy Strokin, Lomonosov University (MGU), Moscow === === contact info: http://isabase.philol.msu.ru/~grg/ === To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 22 7:23:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wallace.i.nutt.net.au (utopia.nutt.net.au [203.25.185.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0529A37B541 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 07:23:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hostmaster@mtloftyhistsoc.asn.au) Received: from localhost (jarrod@localhost) by wallace.i.nutt.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA16584 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 00:00:11 +0930 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: wallace.i.nutt.net.au: jarrod owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 00:00:10 +0930 (CST) From: Jarrod X-Sender: jarrod@wallace.i.nutt.net.au To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Uncontrolable Rebooting 4.0-R In-Reply-To: <20000422173910.A39896@isabase.philol.msu.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, Grigoriy Strokin wrote: > A couple of weeks ago there was a thread called > New kernel with its ATA drivers damages the filesystem I remeber that thread, oops, slipped my mind. > Your case is clearly related to this problem > > To the maintainer of /usr/src/UPDATING: > As far as I know, this problem has not been addressed yet. > So I wonder, why on the earth /usr/src/UPDATING > still doesn't have a recommendation to use > sysctl -w hw.atamodes=pio,pio,pio,pio > at the beginning of /etc/rc and there is > no warning about the risks related to use the ATA driver > in such cases? Apparently a fix had been committed to -STABLE, is this correct? Or was it a fix for Fujitsu drives using UDMA? (or is it the same fix :) The machine boots up and ends up setting the hw.atamodes to: madness> sysctl hw.atamodes hw.atamodes: pio,---, The machine has both IDE controllers enabled with a disk only on ad0 (pri master). I'll go add it to /etc/rc and see how the machine runs. A buildworld of the latest RELENG_4 is planned over this long week end anyway. The machine is under a resonable load during the day but 9 out of 10 of the reboots have occured at night time around 4am when the system is idle, which didn't make too much sence to me. > I am merely a user. You the core team say the users > should put their 10 cents or whatever they could to the development. > My 10 cents was a suggestion we discussed earlier to UPDATING, > but those are thrown away, as are some of my send-prs > and even patchs (not related to this problem). > This is rather frustrating. Maybe they (the core team) wanted to fix it fully, not just patch it up on the surface with the problem still lurking in the system? I don't know the story behind why but I know that im thankful for your ten cents worth. > As for sysctl -w hw.atamodes=pio,pio,pio,pio, I do use > it and live with 4.0 quite happily, but sometimes see > a strange FreeBSD behaviour similar to one described above: > 1) sometimes, after a clean shutdown, > there is a message > WARNING: / was not properly dismounted It has done that on one occasion, a few reboots after the 4.0-RELEASE installation. I thought it was odd at the time but didn't worry about it. > 2) sometimes, just after the message > 'mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s3a' > I see '/sbin/iu4yefbkljhf: not found, > 'iu4yefbkljhf' is varying random string. > The system doesn't go multi-user in such cases. > Then I turn the machine off and on again, > and the system boots fine Apparently the machine did this yesterday. I wasn't at the console when it rebooted but one of the guys at work, said it did this and he couldn't get the machine to continue into multi user, a hard reset was needed, and the box came up fine. > I suppose that some nasty things happen to happen > just after the kernel is booted and > before sysctl -w hw.atamodes=pio,pio,pio,pio > from /etc/rc is executed, and also > during the system shutdown. > > They happen seldom, but they do. Well I gotta be different :) These are happening to this machine at least once every second day. We have a machine whose guts are identical running 3.4-STABLE and dosen't have a worry in the world. madness> ruptime madness up 19:26, 3 users, load 0.07, 0.06, 0.04 solsbury up 48+13:35, 2 users, load 0.10, 0.07, 0.07 ... -Jarrod -- Jarrod Sayers (hostmaster@mtloftyhistsoc.asn.au) Information Technology Manager Mount Lofty Districts Historical Society, Inc. http://www.mtloftyhistsoc.asn.au/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 22 7:24:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9982637B99E; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 07:24:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA17722; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:24:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:24:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200004221424.KAA17722@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: "Brandon D. Valentine" Cc: FreeBSD-CURRENT , FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: missing functionality In-Reply-To: References: <20000422141316.A792@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG < said: > to include support for the MCA bus. The vast majority of MCA bus > machines in existence utilize ESDI because they predate the UDMA and AFAIK, the only MCA disk controller supported does SCSI. -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 22 7:43:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isabase.philol.msu.ru (isabase.philol.msu.ru [195.208.217.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E0E37B777 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 07:43:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grg@isabase.philol.msu.ru) Received: (from grg@localhost) by isabase.philol.msu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA41310; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 18:43:24 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from grg) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 18:43:24 +0400 From: Grigoriy Strokin To: Jarrod Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Uncontrolable Rebooting 4.0-R Message-ID: <20000422184324.A41278@isabase.philol.msu.ru> References: <20000422173910.A39896@isabase.philol.msu.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from hostmaster@mtloftyhistsoc.asn.au on Sun, Apr 23, 2000 at 12:00:10AM +0930 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Apr 23, 2000 at 12:00:10AM +0930, Jarrod wrote: > On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, Grigoriy Strokin wrote: > > > A couple of weeks ago there was a thread called > > New kernel with its ATA drivers damages the filesystem > > I remeber that thread, oops, slipped my mind. > ... > > Apparently a fix had been committed to -STABLE, is this correct? Or was > it a fix for Fujitsu drives using UDMA? (or is it the same fix :) The > machine boots up and ends up setting the hw.atamodes to: If anyone can acknowledge this information, please do. I have just checked out the state of my send-pr http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=17643 and it is still open, with no any notes of follow-ups, excpept my own notes. -- === Grigoriy Strokin, Lomonosov University (MGU), Moscow === === contact info: http://isabase.philol.msu.ru/~grg/ === To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 22 7:57:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wallace.i.nutt.net.au (utopia.nutt.net.au [203.25.185.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F3837B5F5 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 07:57:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hostmaster@mtloftyhistsoc.asn.au) Received: from localhost (jarrod@localhost) by wallace.i.nutt.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA16651; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 00:33:22 +0930 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: wallace.i.nutt.net.au: jarrod owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 00:33:21 +0930 (CST) From: Jarrod X-Sender: jarrod@wallace.i.nutt.net.au To: Grigoriy Strokin Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Uncontrolable Rebooting 4.0-R In-Reply-To: <20000422184324.A41278@isabase.philol.msu.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, Grigoriy Strokin wrote: > On Sun, Apr 23, 2000 at 12:00:10AM +0930, Jarrod wrote: > > On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, Grigoriy Strokin wrote: > > > > > A couple of weeks ago there was a thread called > > > New kernel with its ATA drivers damages the filesystem > > > > I remeber that thread, oops, slipped my mind. > > > ... > > > > Apparently a fix had been committed to -STABLE, is this correct? Or was > > it a fix for Fujitsu drives using UDMA? (or is it the same fix :) The > > machine boots up and ends up setting the hw.atamodes to: > > If anyone can acknowledge this information, please do. > I have just checked out the state of my send-pr > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=17643 > > and it is still open, with no any notes > of follow-ups, excpept my own notes. Correct me if im wrong here (if im looking at the wrong line) but the problem is also occuring in my case on the SiS 5591 mb. Apr 23 00:02:34 madness /kernel: atapci0: port 0x4000-0x400f,0x374-0x377,0x170-0x177,0x3f4-0x3f7,0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 at device 1.1 on pci0 -- Jarrod Sayers (hostmaster@mtloftyhistsoc.asn.au) Information Technology Manager Mount Lofty Districts Historical Society, Inc. http://www.mtloftyhistsoc.asn.au/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 22 9:30:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from frolkin.demon.co.uk (frolkin.demon.co.uk [194.222.100.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8020D37B705 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 09:30:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sasha@frolkin.demon.co.uk) Received: from sasha by frolkin.demon.co.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12j2jM-0000hg-00; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 17:26:04 +0100 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 17:03:05 +0100 From: Alexander Frolkin To: Brian Somers Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portmap strangeness Message-ID: <20000422170304.A2166@gamma> Reply-To: Alexander Frolkin References: <200004220906.KAA50235@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <200004220906.KAA50235@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org>; from Brian Somers on Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 10:06:21AM +0100 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.14 X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: 6C84 3EB2 550E E581 62FA BB0C D510 B042 FD5C E7A7 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 10:06:21AM +0100, Brian Somers wrote: > In /usr/src/usr.sbin/portmap, can you > > cc -o from_local -DTEST from_local.c > ./from_local > > and see how this compares to the output of ifconfig -a ? If this > finds all the interface addresses after lp0, then there *should* be > no problems. I've done that, and I get the addresses of all the interfaces which are 'up' listed correctly, however portmap only works when lp0 is also up. (This is the first interface in ifconfig -a, if that makes a difference). from_local shows the address of lp0, when it is up, as 0.0.0.0, which is correct since the address isn't set because I'm not using the interface at the moment. Thanks, Alexander. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 22 10:19: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD11E37B5F0; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:19:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA06102; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:18:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <200004221718.KAA06102@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: missing functionality In-Reply-To: <200004221424.KAA17722@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> from Garrett Wollman at "Apr 22, 2000 10:24:12 am" To: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Cc: bandix@looksharp.net (Brandon D. Valentine), freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD-CURRENT), freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD-STABLE) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > < said: > > > to include support for the MCA bus. The vast majority of MCA bus > > machines in existence utilize ESDI because they predate the UDMA and > > AFAIK, the only MCA disk controller supported does SCSI. The IBM PS/2 family supported them all, ST506, ESDI and SCSI... Being that I have all the IBM PS/2 FE service documents, a quick look at just the Model 80 option list gives me: 90X9063 Fixed Disk Drive Adapter (ESDI) 72X8540 Fixed Disk Drive Adapter (ST506) 15F6779 SCSI Adapter/A With Cache I probably also have at least 1 of each of these cards around here... -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 22 12:12:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DCC937B7F9 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 12:12:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA16863; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 12:12:22 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200004221912.MAA16863@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: bad144 missing? In-Reply-To: <20000422141316.A792@phoenix.welearn.com.au> from Jonathan Michaels at "Apr 22, 0 02:13:17 pm" To: jon@welearn.com.au (Jonathan Michaels) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 12:12:22 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Jonathan Michaels wrote: > some of us freebsd users canot afford to upgrade every time the > rich deside to follow a new whim .. what are we going to do ? I assume you're referring to your hardware when you say you can't afford to upgrade. But you missed the obvious solution. Don't upgrade the O/S. Hang on to your 2.2.8-RELEASE CD-ROM set, and run that. It does bad144. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 22 13:18: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9585637B7A7; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 13:18:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA08396; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 15:17:59 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff@mountin.net) Received: from dial-96.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.96) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma008394; Sat Apr 22 15:17:43 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000422140024.0235c610@mixcom.com> X-Sender: jeffm@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 15:16:33 -0500 To: stable@FreeBSD.org From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: CVSup core dumping Cc: jdp@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Running 4.0S as of 3/29 and CVSup has worked without a hitch up through about 2 days back. Now it is core dumping with illegal instruction and does this with cvsup7 or cvsup4. One recent change was the addition of Samba, which was not running at the time. I removed it and rebooted with the same results. The only other change was to remove the comment from some categories that I do not bother to update very often. Long shot, but it was another variable and CVSup then completed. Alright, comment out my usual ports and once again remove the comments from the additional categories I wanted to update. Once again completed. Then when trying once more after adding the usual ports ended up with another core dump for a total of 6 now, which I saved. Had no problems with doc, web, and system sources. Also cvsup6 was refusing connections today, which I haven't seen and would not expect for early Saturday afternoon. CC'd John as maintainer. tna Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 22 14: 4:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00FDF37B568 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 14:04:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA28814; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 17:03:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 17:03:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Jonathan Michaels Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bad144 missing? In-Reply-To: <20000422141316.A792@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, Jonathan Michaels wrote: > some of us freebsd users canot afford to upgrade every time the > rich deside to follow a new whim .. what are we going to do ? > > freebsd is becomin a toy for the "rich americans" it may have > had good begining and tradition but now its just another way to > sell cdroms other paraphenalia and of cources now that bsdi is > involved service cntracts for freebsd and that other old war > horse bsd/os .. both hobbled together both strugling bith now > suffering under the weight of popular opinion. > > it is a sad day when a project becomes driven by populism as > opposed to the tenents of development it lauds so highly. > > take care sooner or latter people will wake up and start asking > one simple question 'is this teh freebsd i want?', when the > answer come back no they will start to look eslewhere. Since the 'wd' driver has been removed from CURRENT I suspect you, or someone who cares will have to take responsibility for ESDI/MFM/RLL disks and maintain the driver and re-implement the BAD144 support in a less clunky manner. PHK's stackable BIO layer would seem (to me) to make this a little easier. While I do have ESDI hardware I've got more than enough ancient junk to worry about supporting at this point. I've also got ESDI to SCSI converters I can fall back on. -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 22 14: 8:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BAD37B5BD; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 14:08:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA28860; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 17:06:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 17:06:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: "Brandon D. Valentine" Cc: FreeBSD-CURRENT , FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: missing functionality In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: > However, FreeBSD just went ahead with its first release to include > support for the MCA bus. The vast majority of MCA bus machines in > existence utilize ESDI because they predate the UDMA and ATA66 > efforts. If we are to support MCA, how can we drop support for ESDI? Well, right now there is no support for MCA ESDI controllers. The FreeBSD MCA support is rather limited right now and only implemented because I felt like it and wanted something to drive further newbusification of various ISA only drivers. I expect the MCA support to remain a novelty though I'm sure some users will deply production services on the boxes since they are quality hardware after all (only really slow). So don't try and bring MCA into the whole lack of support for BAD144/ESDI/MFM/RLL/foo. : -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 22 15:31:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web121.yahoomail.com (web121.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A016337B5A9 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 15:31:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jimbots@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 24825 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Apr 2000 22:30:07 -0000 Message-ID: <20000422223007.24824.qmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Received: from [4.16.116.101] by web121.yahoomail.com; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 15:30:07 PDT Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 15:30:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Stevens Subject: unsubscribe To: stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG unsubscribe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 22 16:36:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mb04.swip.net (mb04.swip.net [193.12.122.208]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BCBE37B7CD for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:36:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from martin@filex.se) Received: from filex.se (d212-151-56-57.swipnet.se [212.151.56.57]) by mb04.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA17576; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 01:36:01 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <390236EC.80A83E0B@filex.se> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 23:34:04 +0000 From: Martin Nilsson Organization: Filex AB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: bright@wintelcom.net Subject: Re: amr still seems to have issues. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Alfred Perlstein [000421 10:57] wrote: > > > > > Apr 15 13:31:06 abacus /kernel: amr0: command 31 wedged after 30 seconds > > > > Hmm. Looks like I'm not retiring the wedged command correctly. This is > > a symptom, rather than the real problem, though. See if disabling the > > command timeout stuff makes the system happy - either these commands are > > just taking a _long_ time to complete, or you have another problem. > > Yes, I've been thinking I may need some firmware upgrade from AMI? > > I'll look into it. > > Ok, the latest firmware is the uf80-1.61, which is on the card. The latest firmware for the series 428 cards is UF82. Get it from www.ami.com  > > I _still_ think you have disk, cable or enclosure issues, but now that > > you've precipitated this case I can go look at what I'm doing wrong here. > > Thanks! > I was wondering if anyone else on the lists have had the same problems > as I have been having with the Enterprise 1200 (3 scsi port) version. I have a series 428 (Enterprise 1200) with two channels and 32MB RAM in a Tyan dual PPro 200MHz running 5.0-current. This is not a production machine, and the are no important data on the disks so I can experiment with it as I like. I've had all kinds of problems with it and the three Quantum Viking disks I have. It trurned out that i must disable SCSI command Queing on the disks in the AMI BIOS otherwise the controller stops working within a couple of minutes. This error is more reproducible using RAID0 than RAID1 or 5. I've also had big trouble with a SCA to Wide and narrow converter on one of the disks. My experience is that the NCR SCSI controllers (as on the AMI cards) are rather picky about bad SCSI cabling and termination, esp. when running Ulra Wide. > I'm really not using all that much disk throughput. > I'll have that iostat log the next time it keels over. I can make it fail regerdless of thruput, this is not the old controller wedged bug. I have just put i thru two make worlds (-j64) without any problems, two disks RAID0 one on each channel. First time with default parameters, second time with Write back, adaptive read, cachedIO. Tell me if you want me to do something special with it to test it. At present I can only run it with two disks as I only have two reliable hotswap cradles, I have access to three more disks but I must buy more cradles before I can use them. /Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 22 16:55:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A647937B8BF for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:55:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 84052 invoked by uid 1000); 22 Apr 2000 23:54:10 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Apr 2000 23:54:10 -0000 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 19:54:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: "Matthew N. Dodd" Cc: Jonathan Michaels , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bad144 missing? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: [...] : Since the 'wd' driver has been removed from CURRENT I suspect you, or : someone who cares will have to take responsibility for ESDI/MFM/RLL disks : and maintain the driver and re-implement the BAD144 support in a less : clunky manner. PHK's stackable BIO layer would seem (to me) to make this : a little easier. *sigh* My perfectly modern WDC AC21600H drive with PIIX4 controller does not work under the ad driver, which leaves me stuck with the old wd drivers, I really wish you guys would stop removing things until the new code totally worked =( Matt Heckaman matt@arpa.mail.net http://www.lucida.qc.ca -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5AjuhdMMtMcA1U5ARAo/XAKCJudMDPw1ZHX12WXvM0ylLK2gxFQCgln4/ H1fWI2uvrkmOOTgLxPhOu/Q= =qpGQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 22 17:15: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 016F737B6F4 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 17:15:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA30852; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 20:14:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 20:14:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Matt Heckaman Cc: Jonathan Michaels , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bad144 missing? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, Matt Heckaman wrote: > *sigh* My perfectly modern WDC AC21600H drive with PIIX4 controller > does not work under the ad driver, which leaves me stuck with the old > wd drivers, I really wish you guys would stop removing things until > the new code totally worked =( Hey, I'm in complete agreement. Why not ride Soeren until he fixes it? -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 22 17:21:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F3437B6AB for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 17:21:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03907; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 17:21:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <390241F5.D759A78E@gorean.org> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 17:21:09 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0418 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Heckaman Cc: "Matthew N. Dodd" , Jonathan Michaels , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bad144 missing? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matt Heckaman wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > [...] > : Since the 'wd' driver has been removed from CURRENT I suspect you, or > : someone who cares will have to take responsibility for ESDI/MFM/RLL disks > : and maintain the driver and re-implement the BAD144 support in a less > : clunky manner. PHK's stackable BIO layer would seem (to me) to make this > : a little easier. > > *sigh* My perfectly modern WDC AC21600H drive with PIIX4 controller does > not work under the ad driver, which leaves me stuck with the old wd > drivers, I really wish you guys would stop removing things until the new > code totally worked =( Please get your facts straight before you panic. The wd driver has been removed from 5.0-Current, as was advertised previously. It has not been, and TMK will not be removed from 4.0-Stable. Anyone wishing for support for their hardware in the ad driver that doesn't already have it should be working with Soren to make it happen. Otherwise, whining about it next year (when 5.0 becomes -Stable, or whenever) will be silently ignored. Doug -- Excess on occasion is exhilarating. It prevents moderation from acquiring the deadening effect of a habit. -- W. Somerset Maugham To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 22 17:45: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hydrant.intranova.net (msb-ts-slip06.UMDNJ.EDU [130.219.28.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 909B937B661 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 17:44:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oogali@intranova.net) Received: (qmail 17906 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2000 23:56:52 -0000 Received: from localhost.abuselabs.com (HELO localhost) (missnglnk@127.0.0.1) by localhost.abuselabs.com with SMTP; 22 Apr 2000 23:56:52 -0000 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 19:56:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Omachonu Ogali To: Jean-Francois Dockes Cc: Rod Taylor , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BurnCD In-Reply-To: <14586.43280.638627.541595@hautmedoc.dockes.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Same problem for me, but my CD's are still burned perfectly with no problem, heck, I even burned a RedHat ISO and booted up from the CD-ROM fine. On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Jean-Francois Dockes wrote: > Jens Fallesen writes: > > Rod Taylor wrote: > > > > > However, I did the upgrade to v4 shortly after moving, so perhaps the > > > drive got knocked around during that time. > > > > I wouldn't go for that explanation--the exact same thing happened on > > my machine after going to 4.x and I haven't moved my computer an inch. > > Besides, other people have reported the same problem. > > > > If I boot my computer into Windows I have no problem burning CDs > > either... > > Well, if several persons see this happening after an upgrade, it > obviously becomes a software problem and I made a fool of myself. > > To save the face, I'll just mention again that some drives do > 'creative' error reporting and will report MEDIUM ERROR for what is > really a loss of streaming, or another nondescript error, which could > be caused by a driver problem. > > Obviously, I we follow my proposed cure (replace the drive) in such a > situation, my company is going to become a great customer for our cdr > drive vendor :-) > > > J.F. Dockes. > > -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Omachonu Ogali oogali@intranova.net | | Intranova Networking Group http://tribune.intranova.net | | PGP Key ID: 0xBFE60839 | | PGP Fingerprint: C8 51 14 FD 2A 87 53 D1 E3 AA 12 12 01 93 BD 34 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 22 17:52:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 885AE37B574 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 17:52:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 84155 invoked by uid 1000); 23 Apr 2000 00:52:47 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 00:52:47 -0000 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 20:52:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Doug Barton Cc: "Matthew N. Dodd" , Jonathan Michaels , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bad144 missing? In-Reply-To: <390241F5.D759A78E@gorean.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, Doug Barton wrote: [...] : Please get your facts straight before you panic. The wd driver has been : removed from 5.0-Current, as was advertised previously. It has not been, : and TMK will not be removed from 4.0-Stable. Sir, I understood this, I was simply thinking of the future which is a thing I do often. I understand that it will work under 4.0 however I am concerned at the approach taken. I do not run current since most of my machines are production, and the ones that are not, well - I do not ever claim to have the technical know-how to properly debug low level coding issues such as this. : Anyone wishing for support for their hardware in the ad driver that : doesn't already have it should be working with Soren to make it happen. : Otherwise, whining about it next year (when 5.0 becomes -Stable, or : whenever) will be silently ignored. I completely agree, it was not my intention to come cross as "whining" I understand the issues involved in making an O/S work on all kinds of different hardware combinations, and I do not expect such to be perfect! Overall, I'm more than thrilled with FreeBSD, it has served me far better than I ever could have hoped for. Though my post was rather negative sounding, please do not take it as a shot against FreeBSD, I should have worded my post more carefully. I'm willing to aide however I can, I am simply not sure of what I can actually do to help. I do not pretend to understand the code involved in such a thing, though I would be happy to help in any way recommended by someone with more know-how than I have. : Doug : -- : Excess on occasion is exhilarating. It prevents moderation from : acquiring the deadening effect of a habit. : -- W. Somerset Maugham : Matt Heckaman matt@arpa.mail.net http://www.lucida.qc.ca -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5AklfdMMtMcA1U5ARAkjrAJ9HwycetUzWtqBYlB0n7p1P7uH1eQCfYP5m k4g4vtgFudVYAw3DLV1/aiE= =zv0k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 22 20:40: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC8037B6F2; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 20:40:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA32568; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 23:39:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 23:39:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Garrett Wollman , "Brandon D. Valentine" , FreeBSD-CURRENT , FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: missing functionality In-Reply-To: <200004221718.KAA06102@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > AFAIK, the only MCA disk controller supported does SCSI. > > The IBM PS/2 family supported them all, ST506, ESDI and SCSI... I think he is talking about the MCA disk controllers supported by FreeBSD, which are the Buslogic MCA and the Adaptec MCA. -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 22 21:46:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1506537B69D for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 21:46:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e3N5EqC25194; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 22:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 22:14:52 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Martin Nilsson Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amr still seems to have issues. Message-ID: <20000422221452.D204@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <390236EC.80A83E0B@filex.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <390236EC.80A83E0B@filex.se>; from martin@filex.se on Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 11:34:04PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Martin Nilsson [000422 17:04] wrote: > * Alfred Perlstein [000421 10:57] wrote: > > > > > > Apr 15 13:31:06 abacus /kernel: amr0: command 31 wedged after 3= 0 seconds > > >=20 > > > Hmm. Looks like I'm not retiring the wedged command correctly. This= is=20 > > > a symptom, rather than the real problem, though. See if disabling th= e=20 > > > command timeout stuff makes the system happy - either these commands = are=20 > > > just taking a _long_ time to complete, or you have another problem. > >=20 > > Yes, I've been thinking I may need some firmware upgrade from AMI? > >=20 > > I'll look into it. > >=20 > > Ok, the latest firmware is the uf80-1.61, which is on the card. >=20 > The latest firmware for the series 428 cards is UF82. Get it from > www.ami.com grrrr... the tables were so fubar'd under netscape that I didn't see it. I'll be upgrading it asap. thanks! > > > I _still_ think you have disk, cable or enclosure issues, but now tha= t=20 > > > you've precipitated this case I can go look at what I'm doing wrong h= ere.=20 > > > Thanks! >=20 > =03> I was wondering if anyone else on the lists have had the same > problems > > as I have been having with the Enterprise 1200 (3 scsi port) version. >=20 > I have a series 428 (Enterprise 1200) with two channels and 32MB RAM in > a=20 > Tyan dual PPro 200MHz running 5.0-current. This is not a production > machine, > and the are no important data on the disks so I can experiment with it > as I like. > =20 > I've had all kinds of problems with it and the three Quantum Viking > disks I have. > It trurned out that i must disable SCSI command Queing on the disks in > the AMI BIOS > otherwise the controller stops working within a couple of minutes. I don't have this problem... well it takes a heck of a lot longer than a couple of minutes... 9:43PM up 2 days, 5:11, 2 users, load averages: 0.01, 0.03, 0.00 > This error is more reproducible using RAID0 than RAID1 or 5.=20 > I've also had big trouble with a SCA to Wide and narrow converter on one > of the=20 > disks. My experience is that the NCR SCSI controllers (as on the AMI > cards) are=20 > rather picky about bad SCSI cabling and termination, esp. when running > Ulra Wide. Yes, this concerns me, I may yank the box to check the job they did with the scsi cabling... > > I'm really not using all that much disk throughput. > > I'll have that iostat log the next time it keels over. >=20 > I can make it fail regerdless of thruput, this is not the old controller > wedged bug. >=20 > I have just put i thru two make worlds (-j64) without any problems, two > disks RAID0 > one on each channel. First time with default parameters, second time > with Write back, > adaptive read, cachedIO.=20 Wait a sec, you _can_ or _can not_ get it to crash with the latest firmware and turning off command queuing? > Tell me if you want me to do something special with it to test it. At > present I can=20 > only run it with two disks as I only have two reliable hotswap cradles, > I have=20 > access to three more disks but I must buy more cradles before I can use > them.=20 I really can't think of anything except getting us a traceback if you can make it panic. thanks a ton! --=20 -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message