From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 14 1:17:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vellocet.insync.net (vellocet.insync.net [204.253.208.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830C537BB94 for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 01:17:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sar@vellocet.insync.net) Received: (from sar@localhost) by vellocet.insync.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA25415 for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 14 May 2000 03:17:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Steven Radack Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 03:17:20 -0500 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: SUBSCRIBE Message-ID: <20000514031720.A25377@vellocet.insync.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG SUBSCRIBE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 14 1:18:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vellocet.insync.net (vellocet.insync.net [204.253.208.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5AD37B87E for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 01:18:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sar@vellocet.insync.net) Received: (from sar@localhost) by vellocet.insync.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA25514 for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 14 May 2000 03:18:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Steven Radack Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 03:18:32 -0500 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: SUBSCRIBE sar@insync.net Message-ID: <20000514031832.A25497@vellocet.insync.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG SUBSCRIBE sar@insync.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 14 1:32: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686C137B873; Sun, 14 May 2000 01:32:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA94931; Sun, 14 May 2000 01:32:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 01:32:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Mike Tibor Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with make buildworld In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 13 May 2000, Mike Tibor wrote: > I'm a little new to FreeBSD, so go easy on me if I'm overlooking > something stupid. :-) cvsup again, already fixed yesterday. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 14 3:18:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from praseodumium.btinternet.com (praseodumium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C2837B63D for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 03:17:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from [213.1.157.136] (helo=parish.my.domain) by praseodumium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12qvSw-0003tq-00; Sun, 14 May 2000 11:17:43 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA00990; Sun, 14 May 2000 11:17:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 11:17:36 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Salvo Bartolotta Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New error appearing at boot-time Message-ID: <20000514111736.C232@parish> References: <20000508202219.E233@parish> <20000508.21303400@mis.configured.host> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000508.21303400@mis.configured.host>; from bartequi@neomedia.it on Mon, May 08, 2000 at 09:30:34PM +0000 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 09:30:34PM +0000, Salvo Bartolotta wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > On 5/8/00, 8:22:19 PM, Mark Ovens wrote > regarding New error appearing at boot-time: > > > > Since making the world and a new kernel with 4-STABLE sources cvsup'd > > 6/5/00 13:55 BST I am getting a warning/error during the device probes > > at boot: > > > isa0: too many dependant configs (8) > > > > > > Dear Mark Ovens, > > I am afraid this is an *old* error. Actually, it is a harmless error > that has been around for a few weeks. You might want to browse the > archives to learn more about it. > Could you be more specific (which list, approximate date) please. I've searched -questions, -stable, -current, and -hackers but found only one thread, in -questions, and that only said that it was harmless. > However, on a 5-CURRENT system of mine, the error no longer shows up. > > HTH, > Salvo > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- ...and on the eighth day God created UNIX ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 14 8:22:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B77F37B6A2 for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 08:22:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [204.138.57.194]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B891380A6; Sun, 14 May 2000 11:22:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA41443; Sun, 14 May 2000 11:22:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14622.50374.168438.456842@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 11:22:46 -0400 (EDT) To: jon@welearn.com.au Subject: Re: curious about memory report usingfreebsd v3.3-release Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had quite a few problems with that SMC "tx" network card under 3.2 and 3.3. We eventually ditched them. We found that we had to ifconfig down then ifconfig up them every so often, or their performance would decrease rapidly. This may be fixed in 3.4-STABLE, but I have not checked. Really, I'm only trusting rl and fxp drivers right now. It's not scientific, but I have experiences that the de, dc, tx, ep and xl drivers can be broken under at least my circumstances. The dc and de drivers are particularly strange. I used to use a lot of de cards back when kinston made them with the 21141. Then a number of cards were made with the 21142 --- these tended not to work with de. Then we started using the DLink 4 port cards with the 21143's on them --- they appear to work well with the occaisional strangeness. However, recent 21143 cards from acer work "almost" ... but we have NFS performance problems with machines we've built with them. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 14 8:31: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCBDB37B6A2 for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 08:30:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p22-dn02kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [211.0.245.87]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN/) with ESMTP id AAA19354; Mon, 15 May 2000 00:30:37 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <391EC6F6.A6F75F84@newsguy.com> Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 00:32:06 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /dev/mixer? References: <200005140357.UAA09085@tao.thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gary Kline wrote: > > After some headscratching (why my AWE64 wasn't being seen by 4.0-STABLE), > I checked the BIOS setup. Turned it from > > PNP OS Off to On > > and resolved part of my sound problems. Let me guess... you upgraded from 3.x, and you have irq and io addresses for the sound card hardcoded into the kernel configuration file? -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@tutti.capi.bsdconspiracy.org "I agree whole heartily! Who am I to disagree with a wacko like you?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 14 8:32:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from deimos.ldc.net (deimos.ldc.net [213.160.128.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E5137BDCC for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 08:32:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sasha@deimos.ldc.net) Received: from localhost (sasha@localhost) by deimos.ldc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00600 for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 18:32:12 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 18:32:12 +0300 (EEST) From: Sasha Nazarenko To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problems after cvsup Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After today's cvsup from 4.0-S to 4.0-S have some problems: bash-2.03# top top: nlist failed bash-2.03# vmstat vmstat: undefined symbols: _cp_time _kmemstatistics _bucket _zlist Alexander RIPE: AN9999-RIPE, Internic: ANI116 E-mail: sasha@ldc.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 14 8:50:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from deimos.ldc.net (deimos.ldc.net [213.160.128.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C4637B6A2 for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 08:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sasha@deimos.ldc.net) Received: from localhost (sasha@localhost) by deimos.ldc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA21518; Sun, 14 May 2000 18:49:22 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 18:49:22 +0300 (EEST) From: Sasha Nazarenko To: Sean-Paul Rees Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems after cvsup In-Reply-To: <20000514083953.A49818@dreamfire.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 14 May 2000, Sean-Paul Rees wrote: > Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 08:39:53 -0700 > From: Sean-Paul Rees > To: Sasha Nazarenko > Subject: Re: Problems after cvsup > > On Sun, May 14, 2000 at 06:32:12PM +0300, Sasha Nazarenko wrote: > > After today's cvsup from 4.0-S to 4.0-S have some problems: > > > > bash-2.03# top > > top: nlist failed > > bash-2.03# vmstat > > vmstat: undefined symbols: > > _cp_time _kmemstatistics _bucket _zlist > > It sounds as if you built a new kernel without rebuilding the world. A no-no. :) > > Don't know how it sounds, but first was build/install world then build/install kernel.So this mistake i have on up-to-date kernel/system.. -- Alexander RIPE: AN9999-RIPE, Internic: ANI116 E-mail: sasha@ldc.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 14 8:56:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gershwin.tera.com (gershwin.tera.com [207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A48537B75A for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 08:56:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (tao.sea.tera.com [207.108.223.55]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17590; Sun, 14 May 2000 08:57:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.9.3/8.7.3) id IAA13163; Sun, 14 May 2000 08:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 08:56:36 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /dev/mixer? Message-ID: <20000514085636.A13070@tao.thought.org> References: <200005140357.UAA09085@tao.thought.org> <391EC6F6.A6F75F84@newsguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <391EC6F6.A6F75F84@newsguy.com>; from dcs@newsguy.com on Mon, May 15, 2000 at 12:32:06AM +0900 X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 12:32:06AM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > After some headscratching (why my AWE64 wasn't being seen by 4.0-STABLE), > > I checked the BIOS setup. Turned it from > > > > PNP OS Off to On > > > > and resolved part of my sound problems. > > Let me guess... you upgraded from 3.x, and you have irq and io addresses > for the sound card hardcoded into the kernel configuration file? > This was an upgrade from 3.2, but I did not reuse my old KERNEL config file--as per Annelise Anderson's advise. I started with GENERIC. Peter RadCliffe caught it. My /dev/mixer was symlinked to mixer1 instead of -> mixer0. -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 14 9:11:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5DC37B698 for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 09:11:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.176]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Sun, 14 May 2000 09:15:23 -0700 Message-ID: <391ECFD9.29CC9B3A@3-cities.com> Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 09:10:01 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sasha Nazarenko Cc: Sean-Paul Rees , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems after cvsup References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sasha Nazarenko wrote: > > On Sun, 14 May 2000, Sean-Paul Rees wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 08:39:53 -0700 > > From: Sean-Paul Rees > > To: Sasha Nazarenko > > Subject: Re: Problems after cvsup > > > > On Sun, May 14, 2000 at 06:32:12PM +0300, Sasha Nazarenko wrote: > > > After today's cvsup from 4.0-S to 4.0-S have some problems: > > > > > > bash-2.03# top > > > top: nlist failed > > > bash-2.03# vmstat > > > vmstat: undefined symbols: > > > _cp_time _kmemstatistics _bucket _zlist > > > > It sounds as if you built a new kernel without rebuilding the world. A no-no. :) > > > > > > Don't know how it sounds, but first was build/install world then > build/install kernel.So this mistake i have on up-to-date kernel/system.. I had a similar problem with top and nlist. There was a patch floating around that solved it on my system. See http://www.geocrawler.com/mail/thread.php3?subject=top%2C+systat+%29-%3A+%28all+rebuilt%21%29&list=152 Follow the thread. The patch worked on my system. Kent > > -- > > Alexander > RIPE: AN9999-RIPE, Internic: ANI116 > E-mail: sasha@ldc.net > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 14 11:15:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bsd.mbp.ee (bsd.mbp.ee [194.204.12.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ABEB37BE14 for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 11:15:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mauri@aripaev.ee) Received: from lant.mbp.ee (lant.mbp.ee [194.204.12.41]) by bsd.mbp.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA99752 for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 21:15:07 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from mauri@aripaev.ee) Received: by lant.mbp.ee with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sun, 14 May 2000 20:13:35 +0200 Message-ID: <8E67E032AD23D4118F740050042F21F713@lant.mbp.ee> From: Lauri Laupmaa To: "'stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: turning softupdates on / Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 20:13:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Some time ago I was able to tunefs -n enable /dev/rootfs + fast reset button, but now with 4.0 it does not work... any ideas ? L. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 14 11:29:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5BF37BE34 for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 11:29:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA02487; Sun, 14 May 2000 20:29:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 20:29:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200005141829.UAA02487@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: turning softupdates on / X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable In-Reply-To: <8fmqii$21b2$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> Organization: Administration TU Clausthal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: tin/1.4.1-19991201 ("Polish") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.4-19991219-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In list.freebsd-stable Lauri Laupmaa wrote: > Some time ago I was able to tunefs -n enable /dev/rootfs + fast reset > button, but now with 4.0 it does not work... Just boot into single-user mode (make sure that your rootfs is mounted read-only), do the tunefs, and continue booting multi-user. No need to press the reset button. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 14 22:20:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD8637B58F for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 22:20:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p41-dn02kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [211.0.245.106]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN/) with ESMTP id OAA14530; Mon, 15 May 2000 14:20:29 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <391F856A.12420646@newsguy.com> Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 14:04:42 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /dev/mixer? References: <200005140357.UAA09085@tao.thought.org> <391EC6F6.A6F75F84@newsguy.com> <20000514085636.A13070@tao.thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gary Kline wrote: > > This was an upgrade from 3.2, but I did not reuse my old > KERNEL config file--as per Annelise Anderson's advise. I > started with GENERIC. > > Peter RadCliffe caught it. My /dev/mixer was symlinked to > mixer1 instead of -> mixer0. That's not the problem I was trying to address. It (the soundcard) ought to have worked with PNP OS OFF. What are your pcm and sbc lines? -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@tutti.capi.bsdconspiracy.org "I agree whole heartily! Who am I to disagree with a wacko like you?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 1:13:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6295937B5FB for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 01:13:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA48584; Mon, 15 May 2000 18:12:54 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 18:12:49 +1000 From: Jonathan Michaels To: David Gilbert Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: curious about memory report usingfreebsd v3.3-release Message-ID: <20000515181246.A48481@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Reply-To: jon@welearn.com.au Mail-Followup-To: David Gilbert , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <14622.50374.168438.456842@trooper.velocet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <14622.50374.168438.456842@trooper.velocet.net>; from David Gilbert on Sun, May 14, 2000 at 11:22:46AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 14, 2000 at 11:22:46AM -0400, David Gilbert wrote: > I had quite a few problems with that SMC "tx" network card under 3.2 > and 3.3. We eventually ditched them. We found that we had to 'ouch', i have a smc 9432tx in this machine as well. > ifconfig down then ifconfig up them every so often, or their > performance would decrease rapidly. mine just ground to a halt that that was it .. no more go no more do anything. but, whern taken back to supplier it worked a treat in teh ms win nt v3.51 server and several ms win nt v4 workstations .. it was one of my more pedantic days and i want "proof" it worked and not just one isolated case. > This may be fixed in 3.4-STABLE, but I have not checked. as, one poster said "v3.x is nearly dead", after some thought i might just as well skip v3.x and go straight to v4 .. thought thier might be some issues thier as well. ummmm, desisions. > Really, I'm only trusting rl and fxp drivers right now. It's not that is what i thought and so i purchased a intel eepro .. only to find i got one of teh "new microsoftised ones" with the ake on lan cable and all that other paraphenalia. thier was some mention of a 'problem' in teh firmware that make it hard to have two of these cards on teh same segment. if its of any value the chipset identifies itself as gd82559. > scientific, but I have experiences that the de, dc, tx, ep and xl > drivers can be broken under at least my circumstances. The dc and de > drivers are particularly strange. i've got a couple of old smc etherelite .. the old kind with jumpers and not much smarts, sounds like these are the best kind to use, well untill the manufactures get thier silicon sorted out. or the drivers writers can sort out the strangeses that hide beneath the clear and glistening surface of teh gallium arsenide coating. with thakns to all of wrote .. still no wiser but got some interesting ideas about how modern day bioses work or not as the case may be. on the same track, i just made a set of v4-release bootstrap diskettes and discovered this same (strange to me) behaviour on my much older and untill today alsway (freebsd and bios) reporting 640k/64mb .. now it reports as 639k/64mb, from memory freebsd v2.2.5-release which this machine has run for some 4 years now, reports 640kb/64mb. on a slightly different note, qnx v4.24 also reports 640kb/64mb. to reiterate, this is just a curiousity, but one i would like an explanation for .. if one can be had that is. warm regards jonathan -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 4:12:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.ops.uunet.co.za (axl.ops.uunet.co.za [196.31.2.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C2937B7C6 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 04:12:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.ops.uunet.co.za) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.ops.uunet.co.za) by axl.ops.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12rIn4-000450-00; Mon, 15 May 2000 13:12:02 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Lauri Laupmaa Cc: "'stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: turning softupdates on / In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 14 May 2000 20:13:25 +0200." <8E67E032AD23D4118F740050042F21F713@lant.mbp.ee> Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:12:02 +0200 Message-ID: <15685.958389122@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 14 May 2000 20:13:25 +0200, Lauri Laupmaa wrote: > Some time ago I was able to tunefs -n enable /dev/rootfs + fast reset > button, but now with 4.0 it does not work... There was a bug in FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE's tunefs (since fixed in 4.0-STABLE), which prevented the use of tunefs on filesystems mounted for writing. If you track 4.0_STABLE, this problem should go away. If not, you'll have to boot off a floppy to tune your root filesystem. Having said that, I personally discourage people from enabling soft updates on the root filesystem. Very few folks do enough writing to the root filesystem to justify this. The two cases where people think they need this are 1) /tmp is not its own filesystem Solution: mount /tmp in mfs(8) or an md (undocumented). 2) The filesystem is not partitioned; there is only the root filesystem. Solution: usually, don't do this. :-) In the second case, wanting to enable soft updates on the root filesystem makes sense. However, in the case of a normal, partitioned configuration, the root filesystem is usually small and can "run out of space" during a ``make world''. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 6: 4: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE33D37B6A9 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 06:03:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [204.138.57.194]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6909C137FB8; Mon, 15 May 2000 09:03:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA54240; Mon, 15 May 2000 09:03:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14623.62899.355146.335074@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 09:03:47 -0400 (EDT) To: jon@welearn.com.au Cc: David Gilbert , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: curious about memory report usingfreebsd v3.3-release In-Reply-To: <20000515181246.A48481@phoenix.welearn.com.au> References: <14622.50374.168438.456842@trooper.velocet.net> <20000515181246.A48481@phoenix.welearn.com.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Jonathan" == Jonathan Michaels writes: Jonathan> as, one poster said "v3.x is nearly dead", after some Jonathan> thought i might just as well skip v3.x and go straight to v4 Jonathan> .. thought thier might be some issues thier as well. ummmm, Jonathan> desisions. Having been an early adopter on both 3.x and 4.x (I like new toys), I have to say that 4.0 is a damn good cut of the code. I've brought a lot of my machine upto 4.0R or 4.0S so far, and I'm likely to drop all my 3.x machines when 4.1 comes out. I'm included to agree with those people out there who are saying that the 4.0R is definately better than 3.4R. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 7:16:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bart.datasoft-dev.com (na-216-214-157-14.corecomm.net [216.214.157.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A573E37B578 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 07:16:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pal@paladin7.net) Received: from localhost (pal@localhost) by bart.datasoft-dev.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00349 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 10:17:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from pal@paladin7.net) Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 10:17:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Gene Raytsin X-Sender: pal@bart.datasoft-dev.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: make release broken? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Does any of you guys has problem with doing make release? for me it brakes on make beforeinstall of libcrypto --gene To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 8:11:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from BSDpc.geek4food.org (adsl-216-103-105-71.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.103.105.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5397337B7C8 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 08:11:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@geek4food.org) Received: from mega.geek4food.org (mega.geek4food.org [192.168.1.57]) by BSDpc.geek4food.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06339459; Mon, 15 May 2000 08:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mega.geek4food.org (localhost.geek4food.org [127.0.0.1]) by mega.geek4food.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17794; Mon, 15 May 2000 08:11:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@geek4food.org) Message-Id: <200005151511.IAA17794@mega.geek4food.org> To: jon@welearn.com.au Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: curious about memory report usingfreebsd v3.3-release In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 15 May 2000 18:12:49 +1000." <20000515181246.A48481@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 08:11:46 -0700 From: Andy Sparrow Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Your message dated: Mon, 15 May 2000 18:12:49 +1000 >that is what i thought and so i purchased a intel eepro .. only >to find i got one of teh "new microsoftised ones" with the ake >on lan cable and all that other paraphenalia. thier was some >mention of a 'problem' in teh firmware that make it hard to >have two of these cards on teh same segment. This used to be true, the cards would come up with an unrecognised PHY message and the same MAC address. However, DG spliced in the required changes to support this card around about 3/28, since which time it's been working perfectly for me :-) Cheers, AS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 8:20: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shadowmere.student.utwente.nl (wit401305.student.utwente.nl [130.89.236.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4AC237B861 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 08:19:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daeron@wit401305.student.utwente.nl) Received: by shadowmere.student.utwente.nl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AEA981FEB; Mon, 15 May 2000 17:19:47 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 17:19:47 +0200 From: Pascal Hofstee To: A G F Keahan Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.2.8 gone for good? Message-ID: <20000515171947.A53950@shadowmere.student.utwente.nl> Reply-To: daeron@shadowmere.student.utwente.nl References: <39137199.6D4E2049@freenet.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <39137199.6D4E2049@freenet.co.uk>; from ak@freenet.co.uk on Sat, May 06, 2000 at 04:12:57AM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, May 06, 2000 at 04:12:57AM +0300, A G F Keahan wrote: > This is a little off-topic, but is there an ftp site where I can still > download a boot floppy and an ISO CD image of FreeBSD 2.2.8? I've just > found a perfectly good 386 (DX-40, 4Mb RAM, 105Mb HDD) -- someone just > threw it away and left it standing next to my office. I want to > install FreeBSD on this poor little thing, and think that 2.2.8 would be > much more suitable for it than 3.4 or 4.0, because older a.out binaries > are smaller than ELF ones, as are the various kernel components, which > had greatly increased in size over the years. > > Let's just say I was very surprised when I couldn't find 2.2.8 anymore - > I think I did a similar ftp install on a 486 less than a year ago. In case You're willing to do an FTP-install ... check out the following FTP. ftp://ftp7.de.freebsd.org (You can even do an install of 2.1.7.1-RELEASE from there .... or 2.0.5-RELEASE if you really want to go "antique") -- Pascal Hofstee < daeron @ shadowmere . student . utwente . nl > Managers know it must be good because the programmers hate it so much. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 8:49:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE3D37B863 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 08:49:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bsdx@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA49529 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 11:49:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 11:49:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Trouble compiling -stable Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I am helping someone out by attempting to get their server upgraded from a 3.4stable of unknown age to 4.0-stable ultimately. I have been unable to compile world with 4.0 or 3.4-stable sources and it is always related to a kerberos .h error I believe. Even make includes has this error, even with a pre-emptied /usr/include dir. If I make -k includes it has many more errors. I didnt turn up any hits on this mailing list's archives so this is why I decided to email. Only CFLAGS -O -pipe are specified presently in make.conf. The supfile I used only cvsupped src-all. I have nuked usr/src and usr/obj many times. Please toss me an idea :) Thanks. make includes: ... install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/build/src/gnu/lib/libdialog/TESTS/yesno.c /usr/share/examples/libdialog cd /usr/build/src/gnu/lib/libgmp; make beforeinstall install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/build/src/gnu/lib/libgmp/../../../contrib/libgmp/gmp.h /usr/include cd /usr/build/src/kerberosIV/lib/libacl; make beforeinstall make: don't know how to make /usr/build/src/kerberosIV/lib/libacl/../../../crypto/kerberosIV/lib/acl/acl.h. $ *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 make buildworld: .c /usr/obj/usr/build/src/tmp/usr/share/examples/libdialog cd /usr/build/src/gnu/lib/libgmp; /usr/obj/usr/build/src/tmp/usr/bin$ beforeinstall install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/build/src/gnu/lib/libgmp/../../../contrib/libgmp/gmp.h /usr/obj/usr/build/src/tmp/usr/include cd /usr/build/src/kerberosIV/lib/libacl; /usr/obj/usr/build/src/tmp/usr/bin$ beforeinstall make: don't know how to make /usr/build/src/kerberosIV/lib/libacl/../../../crypto/kerberosIV/lib/acl/acl.h. $ *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 9:10:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pooh.elsevier.nl (pooh.elsevier.nl [145.36.13.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40AC337B6EF for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 09:10:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@pooh.elsevier.nl) Received: (from steve@localhost) by pooh.elsevier.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA29341; Mon, 15 May 2000 17:16:22 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from steve) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 17:16:22 +0100 (IST) From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Adam Subject: RE: Trouble compiling -stable Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 15-May-00 Adam wrote: > Hello, I am helping someone out by attempting to get their server upgraded > from a 3.4stable of unknown age to 4.0-stable ultimately. I have been > unable to compile world with 4.0 or 3.4-stable sources and it is always > related to a kerberos .h error I believe. Even make includes has this > error, even with a pre-emptied /usr/include dir. If I make -k includes > it has many more errors. I didnt turn up any hits > on this mailing list's archives so this is why I decided to > email. Only CFLAGS -O -pipe are specified presently in make.conf. The > supfile I used only cvsupped src-all. I have nuked usr/src and usr/obj > many times. Please toss me an idea :) Thanks. Grab the crypto stuff as well as src-all. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 10:26:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.2gen.net (mail.2gen.net [209.240.46.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D6137B623 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 10:26:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maillist@2gen.net) Received: from demutis.2gen.net (demutis.2gen.net [209.240.46.189]) by mail.2gen.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA08432 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 13:26:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.2gen.net: demutis.2gen.net [209.240.46.189] didn't use HELO protocol Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20000515133110.014428f8@tristo.netinc.ca> X-Sender: maillist@tristo.netinc.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:31:10 -0700 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Michael DeMutis Subject: Installing apace13-modssl from ports (1.3.12) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just did a fresh install of 4.0-STABLE. The system won't let me install Apache13-modssl it says OpenSSl is needed. Went to /usr/ports/security/openssl/ Did a make install, it says openSSL is part of the base system. So how do I install Apache13-modssl on 4.0? -mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael DeMutis System's Administrator 2GEN.Inc. email: mike@2gen.net website: http://www.2gen.net/ Phone: 905-308-9155 Fax: 905-308-9519 ICQ UIN: 1257176 "Merging Media & Idea To Bring Internet Exposure to Innovative Businesses" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 10:32:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hbo.isi.edu (hbo.isi.edu [128.9.160.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A271D37B7C4 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 10:32:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from larse@hbo.isi.edu) Received: (from larse@localhost) by hbo.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00576; Mon, 15 May 2000 10:32:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from larse) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14624.13469.925640.497219@hbo.isi.edu> Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 10:32:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Lars Eggert To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: multicast change in -stable? In-Reply-To: <200005141911.UAA27635@csperkins.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG colin> The helper processes use ttl zero multicast to communicate colin> with the control process. If something is preventing colin> multicast packets sent to 224.255.222.239 on port 47000 from colin> looping back to other processes on the host, this would have colin> the effects you're seeing. Has there been a change to the multicast/firewall/loopback/forwarding code in -stable recently that would prevent these packets from getting through? (This worked two weeks ago, after a recent installworld of -stable it started failing.) Lars ________________________________________________________________________ Lars Eggert Information Sciences Institute http://www.isi.edu/~larse/ University of Southern California To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 12:36:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hbo.isi.edu (hbo.isi.edu [128.9.160.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6946537B7B5 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 12:36:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from larse@hbo.isi.edu) Received: (from larse@localhost) by hbo.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA00647; Mon, 15 May 2000 12:36:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from larse) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14624.20934.617190.388619@hbo.isi.edu> Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 12:36:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Lars Eggert To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: boot0 and mixed SCSI/ATA configuration Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does boot0 allow booting from any drive/partition on a machine that has both ATA and SCSI disks? Lars ________________________________________________________________________ Lars Eggert Information Sciences Institute http://www.isi.edu/~larse/ University of Southern California To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 13: 9: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8527437B90A; Mon, 15 May 2000 13:09:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA79204; Mon, 15 May 2000 13:09:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:09:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Adam Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble compiling -stable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 15 May 2000, Adam wrote: > Hello, I am helping someone out by attempting to get their server upgraded > from a 3.4stable of unknown age to 4.0-stable ultimately. I have been > unable to compile world with 4.0 or 3.4-stable sources and it is always > related to a kerberos .h error I believe. Even make includes has this > error, even with a pre-emptied /usr/include dir. If I make -k includes > it has many more errors. I didnt turn up any hits > on this mailing list's archives so this is why I decided to > email. Only CFLAGS -O -pipe are specified presently in make.conf. The > supfile I used only cvsupped src-all. I have nuked usr/src and usr/obj > many times. Please toss me an idea :) Thanks. Sounds like you have WANT_KERBEROS4 defined in /etc/make.conf, but dont have up-to-date kerberos sources (they live in their own cvsup collection). I'm concerned that you've been running 'make includes', though - if you're upgrading from 3.4 this will probably be a show-stopper. You *must* follow the instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING to the letter or it won't work and might leave you with a nonfunctional system. Note also that direct updated to 4.0-STABLE from 3.X aren't supported (they may or may not work) - only to 4.0-RELEASE. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 13: 9:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A27637B578; Mon, 15 May 2000 13:09:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA79259; Mon, 15 May 2000 13:09:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:09:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Michael DeMutis Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installing apace13-modssl from ports (1.3.12) In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20000515133110.014428f8@tristo.netinc.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 15 May 2000, Michael DeMutis wrote: > The system won't let me install Apache13-modssl it says OpenSSl is needed. > > Went to /usr/ports/security/openssl/ > > Did a make install, it says openSSL is part of the base system. http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/openssl.html Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 13:31:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D6237B749; Mon, 15 May 2000 13:31:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bsdx@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA51816; Mon, 15 May 2000 16:32:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 16:32:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam To: Kris Kennaway Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Trouble compiling -stable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 15 May 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: >On Mon, 15 May 2000, Adam wrote: > >> Hello, I am helping someone out by attempting to get their server upgraded >> from a 3.4stable of unknown age to 4.0-stable ultimately. I have been >> unable to compile world with 4.0 or 3.4-stable sources and it is always >> related to a kerberos .h error I believe. Even make includes has this >> error, even with a pre-emptied /usr/include dir. If I make -k includes >> it has many more errors. I didnt turn up any hits >> on this mailing list's archives so this is why I decided to >> email. Only CFLAGS -O -pipe are specified presently in make.conf. The >> supfile I used only cvsupped src-all. I have nuked usr/src and usr/obj >> many times. Please toss me an idea :) Thanks. > >Sounds like you have WANT_KERBEROS4 defined in /etc/make.conf, but dont >have up-to-date kerberos sources (they live in their own cvsup >collection). Thanks for the tip, that was the case. I turned it off and am trying another compile. This is from 3.4-stable up to date sources and make includes worked this time. If these includes dont work I still have the includes dir from before I started screwing around, I just hope it isnt tainted by something. As for /usr/src/UPDATING... www# cat UPDATING Updating Information for FreeBSD Stable users $FreeBSD: src/UPDATING,v 1.14.2.5 2000/02/07 17:24:27 jkh Exp $ www# I guess that means 3.4-stable has no special tips for me from going to 3.4-s to 3.4-s latest. I'll re-read UPDATING from 4-rel when/if I get 3.4-s installed satisfactorally. Thanks! > >I'm concerned that you've been running 'make includes', though - if you're >upgrading from 3.4 this will probably be a show-stopper. You *must* follow >the instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING to the letter or it won't work and >might leave you with a nonfunctional system. Note also that direct updated >to 4.0-STABLE from 3.X aren't supported (they may or may not work) - only >to 4.0-RELEASE. > >Kris > >---- >In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 15:30:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FBF437B58D; Mon, 15 May 2000 15:30:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrsn@ANDRSN.STANFORD.EDU) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA81793; Mon, 15 May 2000 15:15:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 15:15:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: David Gilbert Cc: freebsd-emulators@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 In-Reply-To: <14586.2094.557007.707785@trooper.velocet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I linked /var/lib to /uar/compat/linux/var/lib, which is where on rpm is. This it found, I think. But it complainst that its make for a different operating system, so I can't get it to install on 4.0-STABLE. What did you do? It also wants glibc 2.0 or 2.1 or compatible. There seems to be no place to give it options and the setup executable is a binary. Annelise On Sun, 16 Apr 2000, David Gilbert wrote: > FreeBSD Linux emulation is, at this point, quite mature, IMHO. There > are a few cracks in the installtion, though. Recently, I was trying > to install WordPerfect Office 2000, and there were a few failure modes > that gave me trouble. > > The first was that we had /usr/compat/linux/bin/rpm in addition to > /usr/local/bin/rpm. It's difficult and non-obvious how to launch the > installers which may use shells such that they find the right rpm. > The FreeBSD-compiled rpm doesn't know about it's own installation > without arguments, so the WordPerfect installer would fail because rpm > didn't know /bin/sh is installed. > > It makes me wonder if we shouldn't add jail-like semantics to Linux > emulator... > > Anyways... has anyone else try installing WordPerfect Office 2000? If > I install it on our debian systems around the office, it's not > configured correctly to run on our rpm-based system (or so it seems). > > I've got paradox to run, and I've got Railroad Tycoon II to run > (included with WP Office), but wordperfect itself won't run. Wine > crashes on an IOCTL (posted yesterday). > > Dave. > > -- > ============================================================================ > |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | > |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | > |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | > =========================================================GLO================ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 16:32:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2A337B921; Mon, 15 May 2000 16:32:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [204.138.57.194]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE6E137FBE; Mon, 15 May 2000 19:32:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA13605; Mon, 15 May 2000 19:32:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14624.35092.234693.852141@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 19:32:36 -0400 (EDT) To: Annelise Anderson Cc: David Gilbert , freebsd-emulators@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 In-Reply-To: References: <14586.2094.557007.707785@trooper.velocet.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Annelise" == Annelise Anderson writes: Annelise> I linked /var/lib to /uar/compat/linux/var/lib, which is Annelise> where on rpm is. This it found, I think. Annelise> But it complainst that its make for a different operating Annelise> system, so I can't get it to install on 4.0-STABLE. What Annelise> did you do? Annelise> It also wants glibc 2.0 or 2.1 or compatible. Annelise> There seems to be no place to give it options and the setup Annelise> executable is a binary. Someone was talking about patching the linux emulation to prefer (say) loading shells, etc from the emulation tree. IIRC, the install script is "install.sh" ... I ran /usr/compat/linux/bin/bash install.sh ... which caused it to choose binaries like /usr/compat/linux/bin/uname, etc. I think I also got further with the installation when I copied the cd to disk and did some editing on the install script, but I forget what I was doing. Whatever wine is doing is not 100% compatible with the FreeBSD emulation, though. I can get Quattro Pro to run, but it malfunctions in many ways. Word perfect won't run --- it dies trying to play some sound. Since Corel Linux won't run under VMWare, I'm going to try to get debian installed on VMWare to install this stuff and at least see it running. I must say that I'm dissapointed that I can't run it. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 16:40:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F88837B7B8; Mon, 15 May 2000 16:40:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11463; Mon, 15 May 2000 16:39:49 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200005152339.QAA11463@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 In-Reply-To: <14624.35092.234693.852141@trooper.velocet.net> from David Gilbert at "May 15, 0 07:32:36 pm" To: dgilbert@velocet.ca (David Gilbert) Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 16:39:49 -0700 (MST) Cc: andrsn@ANDRSN.STANFORD.EDU, dgilbert@velocet.ca, freebsd-emulators@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, David Gilbert wrote: > I think I also got further with the installation when I copied the cd > to disk and did some editing on the install script, but I forget what > I was doing. > > Whatever wine is doing is not 100% compatible with the FreeBSD > emulation, though. I can get Quattro Pro to run, but it malfunctions > in many ways. Word perfect won't run --- it dies trying to play some > sound. > > Since Corel Linux won't run under VMWare, I'm going to try to get > debian installed on VMWare to install this stuff and at least see it > running. > > I must say that I'm dissapointed that I can't run it. About a year ago, I asked Corel if they planned a native FreeBSD port of WordPerfect Suite 8. They said not at the time, but they were keeping track of the number of requests they had for other platforms. Perhaps it is time for us to write in, en mass. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 16:47: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1136D37B7B8; Mon, 15 May 2000 16:47:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11498; Mon, 15 May 2000 16:46:56 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 In-Reply-To: <14624.35092.234693.852141@trooper.velocet.net> from David Gilbert at "May 15, 0 07:32:36 pm" To: dgilbert@velocet.ca (David Gilbert) Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 16:46:56 -0700 (MST) Cc: andrsn@ANDRSN.STANFORD.EDU, dgilbert@velocet.ca, freebsd-emulators@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, David Gilbert wrote: > I must say that I'm dissapointed that I can't run it. This is older hat, but I've had WordPerfect 8 running on a 2.2.8-STABLE system under Linux emulation since Dec, 1998. Has anyone tried to evaluate pros and cons of the various office suites? 1) Applixware - native 2) StarOffice - linux 3) WordPerfect - linux 4) anything - Wine 5) ??? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 16:48:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tinker.exit.com (exit-gw.power.net [207.151.46.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A216337B95E for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 16:48:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: from realtime.exit.com (realtime.exit.com [206.223.0.5]) by tinker.exit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA75541 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 16:48:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: (from frank@localhost) by realtime.exit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA22241 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 15 May 2000 16:48:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank) From: Frank Mayhar Message-Id: <200005152348.QAA22241@realtime.exit.com> Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 In-Reply-To: <200005152339.QAA11463@freeway.dcfinc.com> from "Chad R. Larson" at "May 15, 2000 04:39:49 pm" To: chad@DCFinc.com Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 16:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Cc: David Gilbert , andrsn@ANDRSN.STANFORD.EDU, freebsd-emulators@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORGG Reply-To: frank@exit.com Organization: Exit Consulting X-Copyright0: Copyright 2000 Frank Mayhar. All Rights Reserved. X-Copyright1: Permission granted for electronic reproduction as Usenet News or email only. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chad R. Larson wrote: > About a year ago, I asked Corel if they planned a native FreeBSD > port of WordPerfect Suite 8. They said not at the time, but they > were keeping track of the number of requests they had for other > platforms. Hell, I would be happy if they would provide a native _Linux_ port of WordPerfect Office 2000. I wrote them griping about that and they basically blew me off. I'm about ready to take them up on their satisfaction guarantee. -- Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/ 'cause I'm damned dissatisfied. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 16:58:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rock.ghis.net (rock.ghis.net [209.222.164.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF0A37B964; Mon, 15 May 2000 16:58:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@blackdawn.com) Received: from argon.blackdawn.com (04-076.dial.008.popsite.net [209.69.197.76]) by rock.ghis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA77280; Mon, 15 May 2000 16:55:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by argon.blackdawn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3A300194D; Mon, 15 May 2000 19:55:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 19:55:24 -0400 From: Will Andrews To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: David Gilbert , andrsn@ANDRSN.STANFORD.EDU, freebsd-emulators@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 Message-ID: <20000515195524.A97496@argon.blackdawn.com> References: <14624.35092.234693.852141@trooper.velocet.net> <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com>; from chad@DCFinc.com on Mon, May 15, 2000 at 04:46:56PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 04:46:56PM -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote: > Has anyone tried to evaluate pros and cons of the various office > suites? > > 1) Applixware - native > 2) StarOffice - linux > 3) WordPerfect - linux > 4) anything - Wine 5) koffice - source kword/kpresenter/kspread are running on my 5.0-CURRENT laptop, using the beta of KDE2. It looks quite nice, but it may be 3-6 months before it can be used in production form. -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 17: 4:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D351037B95B for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 17:04:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA53584; Mon, 15 May 2000 20:05:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 20:05:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 In-Reply-To: <200005152339.QAA11463@freeway.dcfinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 15 May 2000, Chad R. Larson wrote: >About a year ago, I asked Corel if they planned a native FreeBSD >port of WordPerfect Suite 8. They said not at the time, but they >were keeping track of the number of requests they had for other >platforms. > >Perhaps it is time for us to write in, en mass. > > -crl That's an excellent idea. Why not put up a webform with a default email already filled in, that people can change as they see fit, which will email directly to whatever address at Corel is appropriate? Brandon D. Valentine -- "You should believe in death, taxes, Larry Ellison's loathing of Bill Gates and Intel's inability to ship a working chipset." - Dr Spinola, The Register, 05/13/2000 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 17:33:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amor.wcs.uq.edu.au (amor.wcs.uq.edu.au [130.102.222.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A374037B5CF; Mon, 15 May 2000 17:33:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garyr@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au) Received: (from garyr@localhost) by amor.wcs.uq.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09256; Tue, 16 May 2000 10:32:50 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from garyr) From: Gary Roberts Message-Id: <200005160032.KAA09256@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au> Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 In-Reply-To: <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> from "Chad R. Larson" at "May 15, 0 04:46:56 pm" To: chad@DCFinc.com Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 10:32:49 +1000 (EST) Cc: emulation@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Organisation: Well Control Australia Phone: +617 3844 0400 Fax: +617 3844 0444 Reply-To: garyr@wcs.uq.edu.au (Gary Roberts) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chad R. Larson writes :- > As I recall, David Gilbert wrote: > > I must say that I'm dissapointed that I can't run it. > > This is older hat, but I've had WordPerfect 8 running on a > 2.2.8-STABLE system under Linux emulation since Dec, 1998. > > Has anyone tried to evaluate pros and cons of the various office > suites? > > 1) Applixware - native > 2) StarOffice - linux > 3) WordPerfect - linux > 4) anything - Wine > 5) ??? I notice that people on this thread have been cc'ing to `emulators' and `stable'. There doesn't seem to be an emulators list - it is `emulation' or `freebsd-emulation' according to Majordomo. This thread probably belongs on emulation so the folks there have been missing it so far. To answer Chad's question from my perspective, to capture more of the desktop rather than server market, FreeBSD needs a workable `office' solution. I was hoping staroffice might be that. I have had my secretary evaluating it with a view to weaning her off W98/Office97. Here is a summary of results. So as not to create too much of an initial shock, we installed the W98 version of staroffice about 4-6 months ago and tried to use it as much as possible. She reported that the suite was pretty much capable of all the things she needed and was fairly easy to get used to, BUT:- 1. It was slow, noticeably slower than she was used to. 2. It caused W98 to crash more frequently when she was trying to `push'. 3. She wasn't able to produce documents that our clients could open correctly under Office97. Since we send a lot of documents as email attachments, this became the killer and so we haven't moved to `phase 2' which was to install it under a decent OS which should have cured the crashes. At the moment I've basically given up - she uses W98 and I use FreeBSD. I would be very interested in other peoples experiences. Perhaps `emulation' might be the better forum to do this. Cheers, -- Gary Roberts (garyr@wcs.uq.edu.au) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 17:47: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF7F37B6A0 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 17:46:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robin.breathe@merton.oxford.ac.uk) Received: from sable.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.4]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12rVVX-0004TC-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 May 2000 01:46:47 +0100 Received: from mcdhcp108.merton.ox.ac.uk ([129.67.3.108] helo=isometry) by sable.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12rVVX-0004QG-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 16 May 2000 01:46:47 +0100 From: "Robin Breathe" To: Subject: make world error [vm/vnode_pager.h] Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 01:46:40 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BFBED8.94C030E0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4131.1600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BFBED8.94C030E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I recently went from 4.0-RELEASE to 4.0-STABLE (recently being Saturday night - with a full cvs update beforehand), and all went well - recompiled the whole system, and custom kernel (was running on exactly the same kernel before, but I read recommendations to recompile the kernel after a major update), and rebooted. I then decided to try again following a few more updates, most notably the changes to OpenSSH/L. However, it now refuses to get past the following stage (which is about an hour in on my 233mmx/32MB). /*** START OF ERROR ***/ vm/vnode_pager.h -> vm/vnode_pager.ph *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/utils/h2ph. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/utils. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. /*** END OF ERROR ***/ I've done a "make clean" in /usr/src, and repeatedly checked for further cvs updates (to the point of paranoia... every half hour ;) but it still refuses to go any further on "make world"... I don't know what the problem is, but if anyone has any helpful suggestions, or ideas, I would be most grateful... Robin B. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BFBED8.94C030E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
I = recently went from=20 4.0-RELEASE to 4.0-STABLE (recently being Saturday night - with a full = cvs=20 update beforehand), and all went well - recompiled the whole system, and = custom=20 kernel (was running on exactly the same kernel before, but I read=20 recommendations to recompile the kernel after a major update), and=20 rebooted.  I then decided to try again following a few more = updates,=20 most notably the changes to OpenSSH/L.  However, it now refuses to = get past=20 the following stage (which is about an hour in on my=20 233mmx/32MB).
 
/*** = START OF ERROR=20 ***/
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***=20 Error code 1
 
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/*** END OF ERROR = ***/
 
 
I've = done a "make=20 clean" in /usr/src, and repeatedly checked for further cvs updates (to = the point=20 of paranoia... every half hour ;) but it still refuses to go any further = on=20 "make world"...
 
I don't know=20 what the problem is, but if anyone has any helpful suggestions, or = ideas, I=20 would be most grateful...
 
Robin=20 B.
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BFBED8.94C030E0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 18: 1:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E5D37B704; Mon, 15 May 2000 18:01:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA11732; Mon, 15 May 2000 17:59:51 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200005160059.RAA11732@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 In-Reply-To: <200005160032.KAA09256@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au> from Gary Roberts at "May 16, 0 10:32:49 am" To: garyr@wcs.uq.edu.au Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 17:59:51 -0700 (MST) Cc: emulation@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Gary Roberts wrote: > To answer Chad's question from my perspective, to capture more of the > desktop rather than server market, FreeBSD needs a workable `office' > solution. I was hoping staroffice might be that. I have had my secretary > evaluating it with a view to weaning her off W98/Office97. Here is a > summary of results. For what it's worth, the PTB decided on Applixware a bit over a year ago. Some fairly high-powered FreeBSDer's did the port, and you can buy a native version from the FreeBSD Mall (among other places). I had some experience with Applixware under Linux, and the word on the street is that the native FreeBSD version is much more stable, faster and generally nicer. That's why I'm eager for Sun's promised release of StarOffice under Sun's "Community Source License", so we can have a native StarOffice. I'll wager it gets noticably faster then. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 18:35:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E005537B534 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 18:35:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA14578; Mon, 15 May 2000 18:35:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 18:35:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200005160135.SAA14578@apollo.backplane.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SMP cleanup MFC going in tonight. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The SMP cleanup MFC is going to be committed to 4.x tonight. I don't expect there to be any problems or issues. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 18:59: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4663F37B8C1 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 18:59:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kwc@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com (root@world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by europe.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA22525 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 21:58:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kwc@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA17753; Mon, 15 May 2000 21:56:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 21:56:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth W Cochran Message-Id: <200005160156.VAA17753@world.std.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Password scheme preservation/setting in 4.0-s Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, Is there a way to preserve the password "scheme" (MD5 vs DES) across buildworld/installworld in 4.0-STABLE? It appears that perhaps installworld re-set the symlinks on the crypto runtime libraries to DES even though I "manually" set them to MD5. Thanks, -kc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 19: 2: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80EC437B8C1 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 19:02:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix, from userid 1016) id 44EE89B1D; Mon, 15 May 2000 22:01:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E937BA0F; Mon, 15 May 2000 22:01:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 22:01:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: cdf.lists@pawn.primelocation.net To: Kenneth W Cochran Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Password scheme preservation/setting in 4.0-s In-Reply-To: <200005160156.VAA17753@world.std.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 15 May 2000, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: > Hello all, > > Is there a way to preserve the password "scheme" (MD5 vs DES) > across buildworld/installworld in 4.0-STABLE? > > It appears that perhaps installworld re-set the symlinks on the > crypto runtime libraries to DES even though I "manually" set > them to MD5. > See /etc/default/make.conf, in particular: #NODESCRYPTLINKS=true # do not replace libcrypt -> libscrypt links ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 19:17:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB2837B988; Mon, 15 May 2000 19:17:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [204.138.57.194]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC8B137FBD; Mon, 15 May 2000 22:17:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA27861; Mon, 15 May 2000 22:17:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14624.44959.656398.461558@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 22:17:03 -0400 (EDT) To: chad@DCFinc.com Cc: dgilbert@velocet.ca (David Gilbert), andrsn@ANDRSN.STANFORD.EDU, freebsd-emulators@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 In-Reply-To: <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <14624.35092.234693.852141@trooper.velocet.net> <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Chad" == Chad R Larson writes: Chad> As I recall, David Gilbert wrote: >> I must say that I'm dissapointed that I can't run it. Chad> This is older hat, but I've had WordPerfect 8 running on a Chad> 2.2.8-STABLE system under Linux emulation since Dec, 1998. Chad> Has anyone tried to evaluate pros and cons of the various office Chad> suites? Chad> 1) Applixware - native Applixware is a good but somewhat immature product. I have run it both under linux emulation and under native code. While it's a good basic package, it tends to fall down if your needs are complex. The programability is cool. I could see getting into it if the spreadsheet was a little more featureful (or maybe we just havn't found the features yet). I must say that Applixware is the best behaved X application of its type, if that's anything to go on. Chad> 2) StarOffice - linux I must admit that I should take another look at this. My earlier impression was that it was kludgy. I don't know if it has improved. Chad> 3) WordPerfect - linux I still use WordPerfect 8. There is no "office" to it, but WordPerfect 8 for linux runs well and is a featureful product. Now... I havn't even been able to get Corel Office 2000 running on Debian yet, so I'm not impressed. Chad> 4) anything - Wine It's impressive that Excel almost runs. I havn't really tried Word since WordPerfect fills my current needs. Chad> 5) ??? Someone mentioned koffice? What's the spreadsheed engine? Last I tried gnumeric, I was nonplussed. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 19:27:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from geoff.deadheaven.com (www.deadheaven.com [207.55.127.187]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDBE37B615 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 19:27:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davidski@uffda.com) Received: from localhost (davidski@localhost) by geoff.deadheaven.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA06250 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 19:31:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davidski@uffda.com) X-Authentication-Warning: geoff.deadheaven.com: davidski owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 19:31:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "David F. Severski" X-Sender: davidski@geoff.deadheaven.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: SoundBlaster Live support into -STABLE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-127029274-958444265=:278" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-127029274-958444265=:278 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII While cvsuping today (approx. noon PST) I noticed a large number of commits into the /sys/dev/sound/pci branch including what looked like the -CURRENT driver for SoundBlaster Live cards. After remaking world, rebooting, adding device pcm into my kernel config, and rebuilding, I was delighted to see that my sound card was being detected. Unfortunately, any attempt to play sound, weather via mpg123, play, or just plain ol' cat, causes an instant system panic with a message about "RAM parity error." I've only had half an eye on the SB Live threads, but a quick search though the archives didn't turn up any obvious clues. Am I missing something simple here or am I jumping the gun with SB Live support? Kernel config and dmesg output attached. Thanks in advance. 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Mon, 15 May 2000 19:31:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kwc@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com (root@world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by europe.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA27422; Mon, 15 May 2000 22:31:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kwc@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA05836; Mon, 15 May 2000 22:30:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 22:30:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth W Cochran Message-Id: <200005160230.WAA05836@world.std.com> To: "Chris D. Faulhaber" Subject: Re: Password scheme preservation/setting in 4.0-s Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 22:04:26 2000 >Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 22:01:58 -0400 (EDT) >From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" >Subject: Re: Password scheme preservation/setting in 4.0-s > >On Mon, 15 May 2000, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: >> >> Is there a way to preserve the password "scheme" (MD5 vs DES) >> across buildworld/installworld in 4.0-STABLE? >> >> It appears that perhaps installworld re-set the symlinks on the >> crypto runtime libraries to DES even though I "manually" set >> them to MD5. > >See /etc/default/make.conf, in particular: > >#NODESCRYPTLINKS=true # do not replace libcrypt -> libscrypt links Cool, thanks; I thought I'd looked there... (Seems like I looked everyplace else... :) What effect does this have on {build,install}world? For example, does this "force" the *crypt links to *scrypt or does it just "leave things as they are," whatever they might be? How does this "#define" relate to previous versions of FreeBSD if we didn't install the DES crypto distribution? With 4.x, I have to install the crypto to get OpenSSH & that sets things up to use DES instead of MD5. I've previously written that it would be nice if we could select crypto using MD5... :) My "guess" is that the default sysinstall sets up the links into libscrypt* & if DES is "selected" then the links get set to the libdescrypt* libraries. Hmmm... Does that mean that make "tests" someplace for existence of the DES libraries & handles this automagically? >----- >Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org >-------------------------------------------------------- >FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org -kc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 20:48:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E12B037B6F1 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 20:48:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <115227>; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:48:30 +1000 Content-return: prohibited From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Routing behaviour in 3-STABLE To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <00May16.134830est.115227@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 13:48:30 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm having a problem with the behaviour of routed(8) in 3-STABLE. Specifically, it doesn't appear to be updating the kernel routing tables as I would expect. I have a network similar to the following: eth0 (192.168.126.144/28) +------------+------------+------------+------------+ | | X | | +-------+ +-------+ +-------+ +-------+ +-------+ ...---| | | | | | | | | | | rtr | | host1 | | host2 | | host3 | | host4 | ...---| | | | | | | | | | +-------+ +-------+ +-------+ +-------+ +-------+ | | | | | +------------+------------+------------+------------+ eth1 (192.168.126.160/28) Where rtr is a FreeBSD 3-STABLE box with multiple NICs. Two of the NICs are configured as a dual network to a number of other hosts (host1 though host4, each running Digital Unix, though that's not relevant here). In order to provide LAN redundancy, each hostN (but not rtr) has an application which monitors all the interfaces on each LAN (using ICMP ECHO packets). If a path fails, then the application inserts a static routing entry specifying the alternative path. It also informs rtr using unicast RIPv2 messages. As an example, if eth0 on host2 failed (as shown by the X above), each host would effectively perform the following actions: host1: route add host2-eth0 host2-eth1 host2: route add rtr-eth0 rtr-eth1 host2: route add host1-eth0 host1-eth1 host2: route add host3-eth0 host3-eth1 host2: route add host4-eth0 host4-eth1 host2: send RIPv2 message "host2-eth0/32 gateway host2-eth1 metric 1" to rtr-eth1 host3: route add host2-eth0 host2-eth1 host4: route add host2-eth0 host2-eth1 This approach of sending RIPv2 messages to redirect connections may seem unusual, but it does work with CISCO routers, and I would have expected it to work with FreeBSD. My problem is that, whilst routed on rtr receives the message: Add 192.168.126.149/32-->192.168.126.165 metric=1 eth1 10:52:38 the kernel routing table is never updated. A ktrace of routed shows that routed doesn't write to the kernel routing socket. The path between table.c:rtadd() (which logs the message) and table.c:rtioctl() (where the kernel is updated) is not clear to me, and doesn't seem to include any debugging output. Has anyone else run into a similar problem? If so, how did you get around it. Is there any documentation which explains how routed internally manages its routing tables - specifically how an incoming route request is turned into an update within the kernel. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 21:27:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rock.ghis.net (rock.ghis.net [209.222.164.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B1B37B606; Mon, 15 May 2000 21:27:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@blackdawn.com) Received: from argon.blackdawn.com (04-076.dial.008.popsite.net [209.69.197.76]) by rock.ghis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA82407; Mon, 15 May 2000 21:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by argon.blackdawn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8167A194D; Tue, 16 May 2000 00:26:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 00:26:16 -0400 From: Will Andrews To: David Gilbert Cc: chad@DCFinc.com, andrsn@ANDRSN.STANFORD.EDU, freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 Message-ID: <20000516002616.B98584@argon.blackdawn.com> References: <14624.35092.234693.852141@trooper.velocet.net> <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> <14624.44959.656398.461558@trooper.velocet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <14624.44959.656398.461558@trooper.velocet.net>; from dgilbert@velocet.ca on Mon, May 15, 2000 at 10:17:03PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 10:17:03PM -0400, David Gilbert wrote: > Someone mentioned koffice? What's the spreadsheed engine? Last I > tried gnumeric, I was nonplussed. Yes, I have managed to make a port out of koffice 1.90 (KDE2 beta release). While I will admit I haven't done extensive testing, it does seem like kspread (the spreadsheet app in the koffice suite, which consists of kword, kpresenter, kspread, killustrator, and kchart) can do many things. I tried playing around with Calculus equations in it and they seem to work nicely. They also have a bunch of equations you can use (i think this capability comes from kformula, part of koffice). There's also something called "koshell" that basically serves as a wrapper to these programs and allows you to launch them from a nice window, a la Microsoft Office. I must say, it looks really nice. The KDE people are getting very close to making koffice a suitable replacement for Office, although I didn't test conversion capabilities. If people want, I could post screenshots of my KDE2 desktop with all the cool KDE2 goodies. :-) Toodles, -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 22:28:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from student-00cdr.williams.edu (student-00cdr.williams.edu [137.165.32.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A4237BA3F for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 22:28:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@student-00cdr.williams.edu) Received: by student-00cdr.williams.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 70E13219; Tue, 16 May 2000 01:29:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 01:29:36 -0400 From: Chris Richards To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Stealth MFC for emu10k1? Message-ID: <20000516012936.A6331@student-00cdr.williams.edu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Somehow sys/dev/sound/pci/emu10k1.c was tagged with RELENG_4 without the usual MFC. Even more puzzling is STABLE's present version of sys/conf/files, which has emu10k1.c enabled -- and does not appear to have a commit log associated with it: # $FreeBSD: src/sys/conf/files,v 1.340.2.7 2000/05/12 02:32:00 cg Exp $ has no entry in "cvs log". What gives? Is this a problem, or have I overlooked something simple? -chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 23:41: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (sol.cc.u-szeged.hu [160.114.8.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD06A37B553 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 23:40:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (8.9.3+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id IAA16405; Tue, 16 May 2000 08:41:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 12rb2D-0003Z5-00 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 08:40:53 +0200 Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 08:40:53 +0200 From: Szilveszter Adam To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 Message-ID: <20000516084052.A12672@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org References: <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200005160032.KAA09256@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200005160032.KAA09256@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au>; from garyr@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au on Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:32:49AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:32:49AM +1000, Gary Roberts wrote: Well I have used StarOffice in the past some time on FreeBSD 3.x and 4.0, now I am giving it a whirl on -CURRENT... I did not notice any big show-stopping problems with it this far, apart from the fact that it is *huge*. It easily and comfortably fills up my 64M of RAM and even uses swap most of the time. This is bad because I am not going to upgrade the RAM on a desktop machine just for StarOffice, so I do not use unless I definitely have to. > 1. It was slow, noticeably slower than she was used to. Yes because it loads one big executable into memory and tries dealing with that. MS Office is at least modular in that respect. > 2. It caused W98 to crash more frequently when she was trying to `push'. Hmmm I cannot comment on this one, the w9x line is fairly easy to crash... all you need is sometimes to take out the floppy disk when it thinks you should not do this... on the other hand, I suspect we have some of the highest uptimes on w95 boxes here at the dorm because we do not turn them off every evening, just log off:-) > 3. She wasn't able to produce documents that our clients could open > correctly under Office97. Since we send a lot of documents as email This is something I do not understand. During the summer I used to work on a document in the following fashion: I went into the office in the morning, used Office97 there. Went home, fired up StarOffice, worked some more. Then next morning continued with Office97... and had absolutely no problems with it. Sometimes Word thought it was an RTF file, but so what? I also noticed that the same file, when saved in StarOffice, became considerably smaller, because I suspect much of the bloat was removed from it. This I think is a plus:-) Sure, the document I was working on was just big but had none of Word's more special features, so no pictures, tables, absolutely no OLE or scripting... but if you go cross-platform, scripting and OLE are out of the question anyway... What's more, I even did this just last week: I wrote a document in DocBook in FreeBSD, compiled RTF from it, then used StarOffice to add finishing touches and next morning I took it up to the machine room because I do not have a printer here and printed it with Word. And the big thing was that this text was in Hungarian, so it used characters from the Latin-2 charset. StarOffice did not know what to do with those, it displayed them wrong, but did not spoil them, Word was able to see them on the Win95 machine just fine. I think integration is quite good these days. (although not perfect, of course.) The problem is sometimes that for example Word might ask in the beginning, what format is your ".doc" file and you can become confused... but mostly it is RTF then. Word orients itself too much on the file extensions. So the only complaint I have against StarOffice is that it is so huge that I will not bother starting it up unless absolutely necessary. (I use mswordview/catdoc instead, for reading.) I have not tried MS Office with Wine yet, but I have a general complaint, that it takes Windows to install those apps most of the time. I do not have a Windows partition on this machine so opportunities are quite limited. Winamp eg installs under Wine fine, works also, so does Opera, but anything bigger is almost bound to crash even if it reported as "working" in the wine database. But I still prefer DocBook or LaTeX... Just my $0.02... Regards: Szilveszter ADAM Szeged University Szeged Hungary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 15 23:45: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3D337B70B; Mon, 15 May 2000 23:45:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA83054; Mon, 15 May 2000 23:36:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 23:36:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: David Gilbert Cc: freebsd-emulators@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 In-Reply-To: <14624.35092.234693.852141@trooper.velocet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 15 May 2000, David Gilbert wrote: > >>>>> "Annelise" == Annelise Anderson writes: > > Annelise> I linked /var/lib to /uar/compat/linux/var/lib, which is > Annelise> where on rpm is. This it found, I think. > > Annelise> But it complainst that its make for a different operating > Annelise> system, so I can't get it to install on 4.0-STABLE. What > Annelise> did you do? > > Annelise> It also wants glibc 2.0 or 2.1 or compatible. > > Annelise> There seems to be no place to give it options and the setup > Annelise> executable is a binary. > > Someone was talking about patching the linux emulation to prefer (say) > loading shells, etc from the emulation tree. IIRC, the install script > is "install.sh" ... I ran /usr/compat/linux/bin/bash install.sh > ... which caused it to choose binaries like > /usr/compat/linux/bin/uname, etc. > > I think I also got further with the installation when I copied the cd > to disk and did some editing on the install script, but I forget what > I was doing. > > Whatever wine is doing is not 100% compatible with the FreeBSD > emulation, though. I can get Quattro Pro to run, but it malfunctions > in many ways. Word perfect won't run --- it dies trying to play some > sound. > > Since Corel Linux won't run under VMWare, I'm going to try to get > debian installed on VMWare to install this stuff and at least see it > running. > > I must say that I'm dissapointed that I can't run it. > > Dave. My cdrom for WordPerfect Office2000 for Linux Standard doesn't have an install.sh script; it's got a setup binary. I got a little further making a bunch of symbolic links in /var (e.g., bin -> /usr/compat/linux/bin) and putting /var/bin at the beginning of my path; aliasing sh to /var/bin/sh; rebuilding the rpm database with the rpm in /usr/compat/linux and giving it a full path to the database (I move the other one out of the way at least temporarily). A lot of docs installed but I can't find any binaries; lots of errors that it couldn't find /etc/mtab (of course it couldn't find /etc in /usr/compat/linux, as this wasn't symbolically linked, but there's no mtab there anyway); and quite a lot of archives it failed to unpack; difficulty setting symbolic links from from /etc/rc.d stuff to other places in /etc, having to do with fonts; "can't find shell function libraries to start server"; and failure to unpack a number of archives that are probably important to things running. Giving up :) Annelise To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 1: 7:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.uvd.chel.su (uvd.chel.su [195.54.2.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1092C37B5BE for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 01:07:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lw@pd.chel.ru) Received: from isergeya.uvd.chel.su (isergeya.uvd.chel.su [192.168.200.123]) by relay.uvd.chel.su (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81EF4 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 14:07:30 +0600 (YEKST) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 14:08:50 +0500 From: "Sergey A. Ivanov" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.41) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Reply-To: "Sergey A. Ivanov" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <7589.000516@pd.chel.ru> To: freebsd-stable@freeBSD.ORG Subject: occasional reboots Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello stable! My FBSD box sometimes rebooted "for no reason". No any useful messages in logs. I have FBSD4-S cvsupped, builded and installed this monday. Hov can i collect enought info about possible reasons? Best regards, Sergey mailto:lw@pd.chel.ru ICQ UIN: 49432691 http://lw.narod.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 5:32:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from botbay.net (botbay.net [151.197.159.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD6F37B77B for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 05:32:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wcampbel@botbay.net) Received: from localhost (wcampbel@localhost) by botbay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA99460; Tue, 16 May 2000 08:30:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wcampbel@botbay.net) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 08:30:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Walter Campbell To: "Sergey A. Ivanov" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: occasional reboots In-Reply-To: <7589.000516@pd.chel.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Do you occasionally get Bus Errors or Segmentation Faults, especially while compiling? On Tue, 16 May 2000, Sergey A. Ivanov wrote: > Hello stable! > > My FBSD box sometimes rebooted "for no reason". No any useful > messages in logs. I have FBSD4-S cvsupped, builded and installed this > monday. Hov can i collect enought info about possible reasons? > > > Best regards, > Sergey mailto:lw@pd.chel.ru > ICQ UIN: 49432691 > http://lw.narod.ru > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 5:41: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from spider.forumone.com (spider.forumone.com [207.32.101.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570A737B744 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 05:40:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jo@spider.forumone.com) Received: by spider.forumone.com (Postfix, from userid 1008) id 17207A82F; Tue, 16 May 2000 08:41:22 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: emu10k1 Message-Id: <20000516124122.17207A82F@spider.forumone.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 08:41:22 -0400 (EDT) From: jo@spider.forumone.com (Joakim Ryden) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cvsup'ed 4.0 -S sources last night, built and installed world, remade my kernel with pcm support and rebooted and played mp3's til I was blue in the face last night. :-) This rocks! Jo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 5:43:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB6A37B69E for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 05:43:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@privatelabs.com) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (root@misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA02742; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:42:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from privatelabs.com (mi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA60977; Tue, 16 May 2000 08:42:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@privatelabs.com) From: mi@privatelabs.com Message-Id: <200005161242.IAA60977@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 08:42:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: siag anyone (Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000) To: chad@DCFinc.com Cc: David Gilbert , andrsn@ANDRSN.STANFORD.EDU, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 15 May, Chad R. Larson wrote: = As I recall, David Gilbert wrote: = > I must say that I'm dissapointed that I can't run it. = = This is older hat, but I've had WordPerfect 8 running on a = 2.2.8-STABLE system under Linux emulation since Dec, 1998. = = Has anyone tried to evaluate pros and cons of the various office = suites? = = 1) Applixware - native = 2) StarOffice - linux = 3) WordPerfect - linux = 4) anything - Wine = 5) ??? Siag as in /usr/ports/math/siag ? -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 5:50:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABABD37B784 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 05:50:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: from earth.fxp (oca-u1-4.hitter.net [207.192.78.4]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8B39B1D; Tue, 16 May 2000 08:50:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 08:50:22 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: jedgar@earth.fxp To: Kenneth W Cochran Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Password scheme preservation/setting in 4.0-s In-Reply-To: <200005160230.WAA05836@world.std.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 15 May 2000, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: > >From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 22:04:26 2000 > >Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 22:01:58 -0400 (EDT) > >From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" > >Subject: Re: Password scheme preservation/setting in 4.0-s > > > >On Mon, 15 May 2000, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: > >> > >> Is there a way to preserve the password "scheme" (MD5 vs DES) > >> across buildworld/installworld in 4.0-STABLE? > >> > >> It appears that perhaps installworld re-set the symlinks on the > >> crypto runtime libraries to DES even though I "manually" set > >> them to MD5. > > > >See /etc/default/make.conf, in particular: > > > >#NODESCRYPTLINKS=true # do not replace libcrypt -> libscrypt links > > Cool, thanks; I thought I'd looked there... (Seems like I > looked everyplace else... :) > > What effect does this have on {build,install}world? > > For example, does this "force" the *crypt links to *scrypt or > does it just "leave things as they are," whatever they might be? > Yes, it forces the links to libscrypt* instead of libdescrypt* > How does this "#define" relate to previous versions of FreeBSD > if we didn't install the DES crypto distribution? With 4.x, I > have to install the crypto to get OpenSSH & that sets things up > to use DES instead of MD5. I've previously written that it > would be nice if we could select crypto using MD5... :) > > My "guess" is that the default sysinstall sets up the links into > libscrypt* & if DES is "selected" then the links get set to the > libdescrypt* libraries. > I don't quite understand the question. You are correct in that the DES dist. is required for the crypto in 4.x, which sets up the libcrypt links to libdescrypt*. And yes, it would be nice to have the ability to select the default crypto mechanism (patches are gladly accepted). > Hmmm... Does that mean that make "tests" someplace for > existence of the DES libraries & handles this automagically? > Yep, from /usr/src/Makefile.inc1: .if exists(${.CURDIR}/secure) && !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(NOSECURE) SUBDIR+= secure .endif among other places. ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 6:11:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5AF337B875 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 06:11:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: from thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net. [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21052 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 09:11:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3921490A.785FAE61@thehousleys.net> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 09:11:38 -0400 From: James Housley Organization: The Housleys dot Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4-Stable - Good Job Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have finished upgrading my 3.4-STABLE machine to 4.0-STABLE, via source, and would like to thank the developers. I had been watching the lists for quite a while and knew this was the HARD way, but with the notes int UPDATING I had almost no problems. I had on small one, but that was completely my fault. Makeing the new disk devices in the /etc directory is of very little help, for some reasone ;-) The biggest think I have noticed is 4.x boot about 3 times faster that 3.x did on the same machine. Thanks again. Jim -- Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 6:16:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA0537B570 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 06:16:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: from thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net. [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA35254 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 09:16:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39214A3B.C73230E4@thehousleys.net> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 09:16:43 -0400 From: James Housley Organization: The Housleys dot Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4.0-STABLE and sound Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks to Luigi for the work on the new sound system. sbc1: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5 drq 1,3 on isa0 sbc1: setting card to irq 5, drq 1, 3 pcm0: on sbc1 I was not able to get this card working well with either the voxware or Luigi's drivers on 3.x, I didn't try much after 3.3. Instead I was using the OSS drivers. Which aren't yet supported under 4.0, but I am happier to be using native system devices. Thanks to Luigi and all that helped him. Jim -- Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 7: 4:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3994E37B803 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:04:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA51463; Tue, 16 May 2000 16:04:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200005161404.QAA51463@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: 4.0-STABLE and sound In-Reply-To: <39214A3B.C73230E4@thehousleys.net> from James Housley at "May 16, 2000 09:16:43 am" To: James Housley Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 16:04:25 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Thanks to Luigi for the work on the new sound system. it is not my baby, you have to thank Cameron Grant i think cheers luigi > sbc1: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b > irq 5 drq 1,3 on isa0 > sbc1: setting card to irq 5, drq 1, 3 > pcm0: on sbc1 > > I was not able to get this card working well with either the voxware or > Luigi's drivers on 3.x, I didn't try much after 3.3. Instead I was > using the OSS drivers. Which aren't yet supported under 4.0, but I am > happier to be using native system devices. > > Thanks to Luigi and all that helped him. > > Jim > -- > Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 7: 5:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.polytechnic.edu.na (mail.polytechnic.edu.na [196.31.225.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA8637BA67; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:05:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tim@polytechnic.edu.na) Received: from [196.31.225.199] (helo=polytechnic.edu.na) by mail.polytechnic.edu.na with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 12rjqi-0007Jq-00; Tue, 16 May 2000 14:05:36 -0200 Message-ID: <39215548.60090E20@polytechnic.edu.na> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 15:03:52 +0100 From: Tim Priebe X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Gilbert Cc: chad@DCFinc.com, andrsn@ANDRSN.STANFORD.EDU, freebsd-emulators@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 References: <14624.35092.234693.852141@trooper.velocet.net> <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> <14624.44959.656398.461558@trooper.velocet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Gilbert wrote: > >>>>> "Chad" == Chad R Larson writes: > > Chad> As I recall, David Gilbert wrote: > >> I must say that I'm dissapointed that I can't run it. > > Chad> This is older hat, but I've had WordPerfect 8 running on a > Chad> 2.2.8-STABLE system under Linux emulation since Dec, 1998. > > Chad> Has anyone tried to evaluate pros and cons of the various office > Chad> suites? > > Chad> 1) Applixware - native > > Applixware is a good but somewhat immature product. I have run it > both under linux emulation and under native code. While it's a good > basic package, it tends to fall down if your needs are complex. > > The programability is cool. I could see getting into it if the > spreadsheet was a little more featureful (or maybe we just havn't > found the features yet). I must say that Applixware is the best > behaved X application of its type, if that's anything to go on. I have had good experiance with the FreeBSD version of Applixware. It is what I am using these days, it is not perfect, but then what is? There is also a java version which I would like to try some time, could be good for the nc's. > Chad> 2) StarOffice - linux > > I must admit that I should take another look at this. My earlier > impression was that it was kludgy. I don't know if it has improved. Even with Linux you want 128MB RAM to run this. I did not really like the earlier versions, I suppose I should try 5.2 which came with Solaris 8. [...] Tim. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 7:10:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.polytechnic.edu.na (mail.polytechnic.edu.na [196.31.225.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF34137B803 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:10:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tim@polytechnic.edu.na) Received: from [196.31.225.199] (helo=polytechnic.edu.na) by mail.polytechnic.edu.na with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 12rjwN-0007L2-00; Tue, 16 May 2000 14:11:27 -0200 Message-ID: <392156AA.375596D7@polytechnic.edu.na> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 15:09:46 +0100 From: Tim Priebe X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael DeMutis Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installing apace13-modssl from ports (1.3.12) References: <3.0.3.32.20000515133110.014428f8@tristo.netinc.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I also did this install yesterday. It worked perfectly. Did you install the crypto software during your 4.0 installation? Tim. Michael DeMutis wrote: > Just did a fresh install of 4.0-STABLE. > > The system won't let me install Apache13-modssl it says OpenSSl is needed. > > Went to /usr/ports/security/openssl/ > > Did a make install, it says openSSL is part of the base system. > > So how do I install Apache13-modssl on 4.0? > > -mike > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Michael DeMutis > System's Administrator > 2GEN.Inc. > email: mike@2gen.net website: http://www.2gen.net/ > Phone: 905-308-9155 Fax: 905-308-9519 ICQ UIN: 1257176 > "Merging Media & Idea To Bring Internet Exposure to Innovative Businesses" > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 7:41:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E118237B7D8 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:41:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id HAA22260; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:41:13 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda22258; Tue May 16 07:41:10 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA10977; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:41:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdq10957; Tue May 16 07:41:03 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.10.1/8.9.1) id e4GEf3D03591; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:41:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200005161441.e4GEf3D03591@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdIS3587; Tue May 16 07:40:41 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-Sender: cy To: Lars Eggert Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: boot0 and mixed SCSI/ATA configuration In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 15 May 2000 12:36:38 PDT." <14624.20934.617190.388619@hbo.isi.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 07:40:40 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <14624.20934.617190.388619@hbo.isi.edu>, Lars Eggert writes: > Does boot0 allow booting from any drive/partition on a machine that > has both ATA and SCSI disks? yes Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 7:41:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEA7C37B790 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:41:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [204.138.57.194]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F191137FD8; Tue, 16 May 2000 10:41:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA94021; Tue, 16 May 2000 10:41:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14625.24103.852889.9589@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 10:41:43 -0400 (EDT) To: mi@privatelabs.com Cc: chad@DCFinc.com, David Gilbert , andrsn@ANDRSN.STANFORD.EDU, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: siag anyone (Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000) In-Reply-To: <200005161242.IAA60977@misha.privatelabs.com> References: <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200005161242.IAA60977@misha.privatelabs.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "mi" == mi writes: mi> On 15 May, Chad R. Larson wrote: = As I recall, David Gilbert mi> wrote: = > I must say that I'm dissapointed that I can't run it. mi> = = This is older hat, but I've had WordPerfect 8 running on a = mi> 2.2.8-STABLE system under Linux emulation since Dec, 1998. = = mi> Has anyone tried to evaluate pros and cons of the various office = mi> suites? = = 1) Applixware - native = 2) StarOffice - linux = 3) mi> WordPerfect - linux = 4) anything - Wine = 5) ??? mi> Siag as in /usr/ports/math/siag ? SIAG as a concept (Scheme In A Grid) is really cool. However, SIAG the project is not. The several different versions that I have used are not entirely interoperable. There seems to be an unclear direction as to what language the thing will use. They've tried to adopt a more win95-ish interface, but it appears to be worse. Mainly, people here are asking for office replacements. That is also what I'm looking for. Unfortunately, complex financial functions are more important that trig functions and equation solving (which are cooler for geeks to code). I believe that the actual value function is something that we require in a spreadsheet. Also important is the array of output options. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 8:57:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.2gen.net (mail.2gen.net [209.240.46.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8955F37B9FA for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 08:57:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maillist@2gen.net) Received: from demutis.2gen.net (demutis.2gen.net [209.240.46.189]) by mail.2gen.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA11408 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 11:58:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.2gen.net: demutis.2gen.net [209.240.46.189] didn't use HELO protocol Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20000516120205.0143a1b0@tristo.netinc.ca> X-Sender: maillist@tristo.netinc.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 12:02:05 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Michael DeMutis Subject: 3.4-STABLE new Installation In-Reply-To: <14625.24103.852889.9589@trooper.velocet.net> References: <200005161242.IAA60977@misha.privatelabs.com> <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200005161242.IAA60977@misha.privatelabs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm not sure if its just me or what the problem is, but where can I download a new installation of FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE? I have the BOOT Floppies and I ran them, I selected 3.4-STABLE as the distribution I want to download, and it tells me it can't find it. I manually went onto the FTP to look and see and there is no 3.4-STABLE distribution, in fact, there is no STABLE tree... The only one with content is 4.0-RELEASE which isn't going to do me any good. What happened to all the other source trees? Does one of the other mirrors have it? .. or do I need to download the ISO and install from that? Why is there no 4.0-STABLE tree? Is 4.0-RELEASE Stable? Help! -mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael DeMutis System's Administrator 2GEN.Inc. email: mike@2gen.net website: http://www.2gen.net/ Phone: 905-308-9155 Fax: 905-308-9519 ICQ UIN: 1257176 "Merging Media & Idea To Bring Internet Exposure to Innovative Businesses" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 9:24:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.2gen.net (mail.2gen.net [209.240.46.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B4037B817 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 09:24:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maillist@2gen.net) Received: from demutis.2gen.net (demutis.2gen.net [209.240.46.189]) by mail.2gen.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA12293 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 12:24:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.2gen.net: demutis.2gen.net [209.240.46.189] didn't use HELO protocol Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20000516122832.0143ca30@tristo.netinc.ca> X-Sender: maillist@tristo.netinc.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 12:28:32 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Michael DeMutis Subject: Disregard: 3.4-STABLE new Installation In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20000516120205.0143a1b0@tristo.netinc.ca> References: <14625.24103.852889.9589@trooper.velocet.net> <200005161242.IAA60977@misha.privatelabs.com> <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200005161242.IAA60977@misha.privatelabs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Disregard my previous message. -mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael DeMutis System's Administrator 2GEN.Inc. email: mike@2gen.net website: http://www.2gen.net/ Phone: 905-308-9155 Fax: 905-308-9519 ICQ UIN: 1257176 "Merging Media & Idea To Bring Internet Exposure to Innovative Businesses" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 9:39: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F017F37BCE6 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 09:39:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #3) for stable@freebsd.org id 12rkMx-0000xP-00; Tue, 16 May 2000 17:38:55 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA10290 for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 May 2000 17:38:55 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 17:38:54 +0100 From: J McKitrick To: stable Subject: shorter boot time? Message-ID: <20000516173854.A9898@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have seen a few remarks on the boot time for 4.0. This is strange, because mine seems about the same. Also, it seems to have a rather long delay about halfway through the boot process. I can't figure out what it is... i know if the zip is attached (parallel port) it is checked during this interval, but something else is going on that seems to slow my machine down. Is there a way of figuring it out? Under 3.4, there was a check for 2 IDE drives in GENERIC, and when this was removed, the boot process was significantly faster. But i did not see such an option for 4.0 to disable probing a second IDE, if that is even the issue. Any ideas? jm -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathon McKitrick -- jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org I am a bomb technician. If you see me running, try to keep up. ------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 9:42:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.surfree.cl (machine66.justicecorp.com [204.254.85.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C091737B93C for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 09:42:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcelo@msm.cl) Received: from marcelo.msm.cl (unknown [204.254.85.118]) by mail.surfree.cl (Postfix) with SMTP id 582B5EB14D for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 12:46:05 -0400 (CLT) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000516122849.00cdb150@msm.cl> X-Sender: miturbe@msm.cl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 12:39:25 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Marcelo J. Iturbe" Subject: Memory recongnition problem... In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20000516122832.0143ca30@tristo.netinc.ca> References: <3.0.3.32.20000516120205.0143a1b0@tristo.netinc.ca> <14625.24103.852889.9589@trooper.velocet.net> <200005161242.IAA60977@misha.privatelabs.com> <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200005161242.IAA60977@misha.privatelabs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I sent this message orrinally to "questions" but got no reply.. sorry for the cross-post... I have a compaq server with 256 megs in RAM, so I recompiled GENERIC kernel with the option "MAXMEM=262144", Once the new kernel was configured I ran a grep just to make sure. su-2.03# grep -i maxmem * config.c:___options \"MAXMEM=262144\" \n\ opt_maxmem.h:#define MAXMEM 262144 I proceeded to compile and install the kernel, The new Kernel boots up just fine. But when I do a "top" i see the following: Mem: 34M Active, 8344K Inact, 11M Wired, 2544K Cache, 7456K Buf, 4188K Free 67 Megs of RAM! Why?! I made sure that the new kernel was indeed the one that booted checking out dmesg. Does the system actually use 256M but top only recognises the first 64?? Thanks for your insight! At 05:07 PM 5/10/00 +0200, Karel J. Bosschaart wrote: >On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 10:32:26AM -0400, Marcelo Iturbe wrote: > > > > When I run top under freebsd I get: > > > > Mem: 37M Active, 3848K Inact, 15M Wired, 3424K Cache, 7458K Buf, 532K Free > > > > All those numbers add up to 67.262Megs of RAM. this machine has a total of > > 256Megs of RAM. > > It also has 768 megs of swap and that is showed in a more friendly manner: > > > > Swap: 768M Total, 372M Used, 396M Free, 48% Inuse, 100K In, 128K Out > > > > It seems to me that the FreeBSD is not recognizing the total RAM that the > > machine has. > > SO, I was trying to download the 3.3-Release kernel source so that I could > > do as recomended. ( I have no clue who took my 3.3-release CD) > > > > "Sounds like its not seeing all of you ram - you will need to set maxmem in > > the config and recompile it." > >See http://www.nl.freebsd.org/FAQ/troubleshoot.html#REALLYBIGRAM which >describes the problem that you most probably have. You need to recompile >the kernel with the option > >options "MAXMEM=262144" > >for 256 MB of RAM. There is an entry in the handbook how to recompile >your kernel (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/kernelconfig.html). > >If you don't have the CD anymore, you need to download the kernel sources, >which is most easily done by using /stand/sysinstall (FTP) and selecting the >kernel source there ('post-install configuration of FreeBSD', >'install additional distribution sets', 'sources for everything but >encryption', '/usr/src/sys'). Be sure to grab the kernel source version >matching your FreeBSD version (3.3-RELEASE). > >Good luck, > >Karel. *********************************************** ICQ 22921676 MSM Interactive. El Bosque Norte 0134, Las Condes, Chile. Phone: (56-2) 234-9852 Fax: (56-2) 233-8912 Email: marcelo@msm.cl http://www.msm.cl ******************************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 9:42:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D63A37B93C for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 09:42:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA19701; Tue, 16 May 2000 09:42:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 09:42:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200005161642.JAA19701@apollo.backplane.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: HEADS up, recommend kernel & modules recompile for -stable (SMP, sys/file.h changes) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Heads up! I accidently mixed in the sys/file ref count MFC (which increases the size of the reference count fields in struct file from 16 to 32 bits) with the SMP cleanup. I hadn't meant to commit this for a few more days. Also, the SMP cleanup was pretty extensive. So I recommend a complete kernel AND modules recompile, and also recommend recompiling pstat, fstat, and sockstat (though those programs will probably work just fine either way). I did pad the original ref count fields to maintain compatibility with third party modules. I don't think there will be any problems. Specialty modules in our source tree (portal, union, fdesc, fifofs, netgraph, and the linux module) must be recompiled. I recommend simply recompiling all of them. If you encounter problems with third party modules that weren't there before, try backing out /usr/src/sys/file.h rev 1.22.2.3 (in -stable) and see if the problem goes away. I've included the forward diff below for reference. If you determine the ref count change to be the problem, please email me. -Matt Index: file.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/sys/file.h,v retrieving revision 1.22.2.2 retrieving revision 1.22.2.3 diff -u -r1.22.2.2 -r1.22.2.3 --- file.h 2000/05/05 03:50:01 1.22.2.2 +++ file.h 2000/05/16 07:07:52 1.22.2.3 @@ -62,8 +62,8 @@ #define DTYPE_FIFO 4 /* fifo (named pipe) */ #define DTYPE_KQUEUE 5 /* event queue */ short f_type; /* descriptor type */ - short f_count; /* reference count */ - short f_msgcount; /* references from message queue */ + short f_FILLER1; /* (OLD) reference count */ + short f_FILLER2; /* (OLD) references from message queue */ struct ucred *f_cred; /* credentials associated with descriptor */ struct fileops { int (*fo_read) __P((struct file *fp, struct uio *uio, @@ -90,6 +90,8 @@ */ off_t f_offset; caddr_t f_data; /* vnode or socket */ + int f_count; /* reference count */ + int f_msgcount; /* reference count from message queue */ }; #ifdef MALLOC_DECLARE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 11:58:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.clarkson.edu (mail.clarkson.edu [128.153.4.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C9A1C37BADC for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 11:58:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tuinstra@clarkson.edu) Received: (qmail 2494 invoked by uid 0); 16 May 2000 18:58:15 -0000 Received: from sc-1-51.sc.clarkson.edu (HELO clarkson.edu) (128.153.23.148) by mail.clarkson.edu with SMTP; 16 May 2000 18:58:15 -0000 Message-ID: <39219A48.242706EB@clarkson.edu> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 14:58:17 -0400 From: Dwight Tuinstra X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: occasional reboots References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Walter Campbell wrote: > > Do you occasionally get Bus Errors or Segmentation Faults, especially > while compiling? > > On Tue, 16 May 2000, Sergey A. Ivanov wrote: > > > Hello stable! > > > > My FBSD box sometimes rebooted "for no reason". No any useful > > messages in logs. I have FBSD4-S cvsupped, builded and installed this > > monday. Hov can i collect enought info about possible reasons? Pardon the "me too", but ... me too. With high frequency, I get a spontaneous reboot when trying to "make buildworld" after a fresh install of 4.0-RELEASE. Subsequent buildworlds dump core on either signal 10 or signal 11. A plain "make" will sometimes succeed, sometimes coredump with sig 10 or 11. The coredumps seem to happen at random locations in the build. This is with GENERIC or custom kernel, with or without UDMA turned on in the BIOS (the disk is UDMA33-capable), with or without go-fast BIOS options. I built the custom kernel with the -g config flag, but I don't know how to do post- mortems on core dumps. (I'll be glad to provide them to those who can deciper them). Happens in single and multi-user mode. Happens even immediately after a fresh minimalist install (no X, no ppp, no mouse, no linux emulation, completely new filesystem, yanked out the sound card and net card, leaving only the (IDE) modem). I thought that upgrading to 4.0-STABLE might help, but after cvsupping /usr/src, the same kind of errors occurred when compiling. So, no luck there. Happens on two similarly configured systems: K6-2 450MHz CPU, 64 or 128Mb Kingston PC-100 ValueRAM, FIC PA-2013 motherboard. One power supply is generic, the other is PC Power and Cooling. Award BIOS. (Speaking of BIOS, is there a FAQ anywhere for "My BIOS is from vendor XXXX. How should I set the options for best stability[speed] under FreeBSD?"). Any help is appreciated! --Dwight Tuinstra tuinstra@clarkson.edu tuinstra@northnet.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 12: 7:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7089237BAE5 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 12:07:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kwc@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com (root@world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by europe.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13711; Tue, 16 May 2000 15:07:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kwc@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA24096; Tue, 16 May 2000 15:05:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 15:05:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth W Cochran Message-Id: <200005161905.PAA24096@world.std.com> To: "Chris D. Faulhaber" Subject: Re: Password scheme preservation/setting in 4.0-s Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >From jedgar@fxp.org Tue May 16 08:51:37 2000 >Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 08:50:22 -0400 (EDT) >Subject: Re: Password scheme preservation/setting in 4.0-s > >On Mon, 15 May 2000, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: >> >From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 22:04:26 2000 >> >Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 22:01:58 -0400 (EDT) >> >From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" >> >Subject: Re: Password scheme preservation/setting in 4.0-s >> > >> >On Mon, 15 May 2000, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: >> >> >> >> Is there a way to preserve the password "scheme" (MD5 vs DES) >> >> across buildworld/installworld in 4.0-STABLE? >> >> >> >> It appears that perhaps installworld re-set the symlinks on the >> >> crypto runtime libraries to DES even though I "manually" set >> >> them to MD5. >> > >> >See /etc/default/make.conf, in particular: >> > >> >#NODESCRYPTLINKS=true # do not replace libcrypt -> libscrypt links So, it appears that I must un-comment this line, but what if un-comment it & change its "value" to "false" (or something else, perhaps something silly)? I have a "hunch" it doesn't care, as long as the "value" is non-null; looks like I need to do some more "research..." :) >> Cool, thanks; I thought I'd looked there... (Seems like I >> looked everyplace else... :) >> >> What effect does this have on {build,install}world? >> >> For example, does this "force" the *crypt links to *scrypt or >> does it just "leave things as they are," whatever they might be? > >Yes, it forces the links to libscrypt* instead of libdescrypt* > >> How does this "#define" relate to previous versions of FreeBSD >> if we didn't install the DES crypto distribution? With 4.x, I >> have to install the crypto to get OpenSSH & that sets things up >> to use DES instead of MD5. I've previously written that it >> would be nice if we could select crypto using MD5... :) >> >> My "guess" is that the default sysinstall sets up the links into >> libscrypt* & if DES is "selected" then the links get set to the >> libdescrypt* libraries. > >I don't quite understand the question. You are correct in that >the DES dist. is required for the crypto in 4.x, which sets up >the libcrypt links to libdescrypt*. And yes, it would be nice >to have the ability to select the default crypto mechanism >(patches are gladly accepted). I'd be delighted to, but I don't know how. Yet. I'd welcome pointers on how to do this (ie. a place to RTFM... :). There are a few other places I'd like to do this, too... >> Hmmm... Does that mean that make "tests" someplace for >> existence of the DES libraries & handles this automagically? > >Yep, from /usr/src/Makefile.inc1: > >.if exists(${.CURDIR}/secure) && !defined(NOCRYPT) && !defined(NOSECURE) >SUBDIR+= secure >.endif > >among other places. Hey, thanks! This is an example of something I'd like to see better documented, but I bet it changes frequently. I might be willing to write some doc myself, but as yet I don't know enough about the insides of this to do so... >----- >Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org >-------------------------------------------------------- >FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org -kc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 12:15:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from field.videotron.net (field.videotron.net [205.151.222.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1231A37BAEE for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 12:15:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmilekic@dsuper.net) Received: from modemcable009.62-201-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net ([24.201.62.9]) by field.videotron.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.12.14.10.29.p8) with ESMTP id <0FUO00A8M2KNZB@field.videotron.net> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 16 May 2000 15:09:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 15:11:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Bosko Milekic Subject: Re: occasional reboots In-reply-to: <39219A48.242706EB@clarkson.edu> X-Sender: bmilekic@jehovah.technokratis.com To: Dwight Tuinstra Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 16 May 2000, Dwight Tuinstra wrote: > Pardon the "me too", but ... me too. With high frequency, > I get a spontaneous reboot when trying to "make buildworld" > after a fresh install of 4.0-RELEASE. Subsequent buildworlds > dump core on either signal 10 or signal 11. A plain "make" > will sometimes succeed, sometimes coredump with sig 10 or 11. > The coredumps seem to happen at random locations in the build. Sounds like hardware trouble. Key words: random, SIGBUS -- Bosko Milekic * pages.infinit.net/bmilekic/index.html * www.technokratis.com bmilekic@dsuper.net * bmilekic@technokratis.com * b.milekic@marianopolis.edu "Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 12:27:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D4237BB08 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 12:27:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 12rmzZ-0002Sf-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 May 2000 15:26:57 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 15:26:56 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.0-STABLE and sound Message-ID: <20000516152656.B8258@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <39214A3B.C73230E4@thehousleys.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <39214A3B.C73230E4@thehousleys.net>; from jim@thehousleys.net on Tue, May 16, 2000 at 09:16:43AM -0400 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG James Housley probably said: > sbc1: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b > irq 5 drq 1,3 on isa0 > sbc1: setting card to irq 5, drq 1, 3 > pcm0: on sbc1 > > I was not able to get this card working well with either the voxware or > Luigi's drivers on 3.x, I didn't try much after 3.3. Instead I was > using the OSS drivers. Which aren't yet supported under 4.0, but I am > happier to be using native system devices. I'm having some odd problems with my Creative ViBRA16X; sbc0: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5 drq 1,3 on isa0 sbc0: setting card to irq 5, drq 1, 3 pcm0: on sbc0 It seems to mostly work, but xmms is producing static a lot of the time on the same mp3s that work ok on another 4.0-S machine with a SBLive. I did reinstall xmms, etc, after upgrading, on both machines. After getting static from xmms I can do 'mpg123 -c -v ', which will normally work and then xmms will play the same file it failed on before ... Something dropping into the wrong state somewhere ? P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 12:30:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.campbell-mithun.com (Mercury.campbell-mithun.com [192.159.32.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7755837BB08 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 12:30:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Received: from accord.grasslake.net (honda.grasslake.net [192.168.1.1]) by mercury.campbell-mithun.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA08971 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 14:29:28 -0500 Received: from marlowe (Marlowe.campbell-mithun.com [192.159.32.184]) by accord.grasslake.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA98320 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 14:28:25 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Message-ID: <005601bfbf6d$3d9a3500$b8209fc0@marlowe> From: "Shawn Barnhart" To: Subject: Specify local .mc file for make world? Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 14:30:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there a method for specifying a local .mc file as there is for specifying a local .cf file in make.conf when rebuilding sendmail? It seems to me to make more sense to specify an .mc rather than a .cf file when rebuilding sendmail so that the .cf file gets rebuilt, too. Sorry if this is off-topic for this group, but I asked a similar question on -questions a while ago and didn't get a particularly satisfactory answer. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 12:46: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DFA37BB2B for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 12:45:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: from thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net. [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01887; Tue, 16 May 2000 15:45:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3921A570.28EF968F@thehousleys.net> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 15:45:52 -0400 From: James Housley Organization: The Housleys dot Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Shawn Barnhart , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Specify local .mc file for make world? References: <005601bfbf6d$3d9a3500$b8209fc0@marlowe> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Shawn Barnhart wrote: > > Is there a method for specifying a local .mc file as there is for specifying > a local .cf file in make.conf when rebuilding sendmail? > > It seems to me to make more sense to specify an .mc rather than a .cf file > when rebuilding sendmail so that the .cf file gets rebuilt, too. > > Sorry if this is off-topic for this group, but I asked a similar question > on -questions a while ago and didn't get a particularly satisfactory answer. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message cd /usr/src make SENDMAIL_CF=your_sendmail.cf world this will use /usr/src/etc/sendmail/your_sendmail.mc to build /usr/obj/usr/src/etc/sendmail/your_sendmail.cf and install it as /etc/sendmail.cf I hope this answers your question -- The wise man built his network upon U*nx. The foolish man built his network upon Windows. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 12:48:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (adsl-63-202-176-114.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.176.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0040D37BB1A for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 12:48:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02913; Tue, 16 May 2000 12:49:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200005161949.MAA02913@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Marcelo J. Iturbe" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Memory recongnition problem... In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 16 May 2000 12:39:25 EDT." <4.3.1.2.20000516122849.00cdb150@msm.cl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 12:49:11 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hello, > I sent this message orrinally to "questions" but got no reply.. sorry for > the cross-post... > > I have a compaq server with 256 megs in RAM, so I recompiled GENERIC kernel > with the option "MAXMEM=262144", Once the new kernel was configured I ran a > grep just to make sure. > su-2.03# grep -i maxmem * > config.c:___options \"MAXMEM=262144\" \n\ > opt_maxmem.h:#define MAXMEM 262144 > > I proceeded to compile and install the kernel, The new Kernel boots up just > fine. But when I do a "top" i see the following: > > Mem: 34M Active, 8344K Inact, 11M Wired, 2544K Cache, 7456K Buf, 4188K Free > > 67 Megs of RAM! Why?! This is not indicative of anything. What does the system actually tell you it's using when it boots (look towards the top of the output of 'dmesg')? -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 12:57:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.surfree.cl (machine66.justicecorp.com [204.254.85.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D344E37BB1A; Tue, 16 May 2000 12:57:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcelo@msm.cl) Received: from marcelo.msm.cl (unknown [204.254.85.118]) by mail.surfree.cl (Postfix) with SMTP id DEC13EB151; Tue, 16 May 2000 16:01:32 -0400 (CLT) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000516155630.0324de10@msm.cl> X-Sender: miturbe@msm.cl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 15:57:40 -0400 To: Mike Smith From: "Marcelo J. Iturbe" Subject: Re: Memory recongnition problem... Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200005161949.MAA02913@mass.cdrom.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It shows "real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes)", which is what I am trying to understand... The bios recognizes it as 256M and so did NT (When that OS was installed). At 12:49 PM 5/16/00 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > Hello, > > I sent this message orrinally to "questions" but got no reply.. sorry for > > the cross-post... > > > > I have a compaq server with 256 megs in RAM, so I recompiled GENERIC > kernel > > with the option "MAXMEM=262144", Once the new kernel was configured I > ran a > > grep just to make sure. > > su-2.03# grep -i maxmem * > > config.c:___options \"MAXMEM=262144\" \n\ > > opt_maxmem.h:#define MAXMEM 262144 > > > > I proceeded to compile and install the kernel, The new Kernel boots up > just > > fine. But when I do a "top" i see the following: > > > > Mem: 34M Active, 8344K Inact, 11M Wired, 2544K Cache, 7456K Buf, 4188K Free > > > > 67 Megs of RAM! Why?! > >This is not indicative of anything. What does the system actually tell >you it's using when it boots (look towards the top of the output of >'dmesg')? > >-- >\\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith >\\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org >\\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com *********************************************** ICQ 22921676 MSM Interactive. El Bosque Norte 0134, Las Condes, Chile. Phone: (56-2) 234-9852 Fax: (56-2) 233-8912 Email: marcelo@msm.cl http://www.msm.cl ******************************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 13: 5: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from symbion.srrc.usda.gov (symbion.srrc.usda.gov [199.133.86.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F332437BB24 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:05:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjohnson@nola.srrc.usda.gov) Received: (from glenn@localhost) by symbion.srrc.usda.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA42291; Tue, 16 May 2000 15:04:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from glenn) From: Glenn Johnson Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 15:04:28 -0500 To: Dwight Tuinstra Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: occasional reboots Message-ID: <20000516150428.B42080@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov> References: <39219A48.242706EB@clarkson.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <39219A48.242706EB@clarkson.edu>; from tuinstra@clarkson.edu on Tue, May 16, 2000 at 02:58:17PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 02:58:17PM -0400, Dwight Tuinstra wrote: > Pardon the "me too", but ... me too. With high frequency, I get a > spontaneous reboot when trying to "make buildworld" after a fresh > install of 4.0-RELEASE. Subsequent buildworlds dump core on either > signal 10 or signal 11. A plain "make" will sometimes succeed, > sometimes coredump with sig 10 or 11. The coredumps seem to happen at > random locations in the build. I experienced this problem before and it turned out to be a bad motherboard. I do not know what hardware testing resources you have available to you but you should have your memory and CPU tested independent of the motherboard to try to pinpoint exactly which components are bad. -- Glenn Johnson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 13: 5:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (adsl-63-202-176-114.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.176.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31D437BB24 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:05:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03041; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:06:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200005162006.NAA03041@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Marcelo J. Iturbe" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Memory recongnition problem... In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 16 May 2000 15:57:40 EDT." <4.3.1.2.20000516155630.0324de10@msm.cl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 13:06:20 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > It shows "real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes)", which is what I am > trying to understand... The bios recognizes it as 256M and so did NT (When > that OS was installed). Ok. So now you can tell us which OS version you are running, and if it's 4.0 or later, hook up a serial console and get us the memory map that's printed in 'verbose' boot mode. It sounds like your system may have a memory hole at the 64M mark, which will cause memory above that point to fail to be detected in pre-4.0 systems. > > At 12:49 PM 5/16/00 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > Hello, > > > I sent this message orrinally to "questions" but got no reply.. sorry for > > > the cross-post... > > > > > > I have a compaq server with 256 megs in RAM, so I recompiled GENERIC > > kernel > > > with the option "MAXMEM=262144", Once the new kernel was configured I > > ran a > > > grep just to make sure. > > > su-2.03# grep -i maxmem * > > > config.c:___options \"MAXMEM=262144\" \n\ > > > opt_maxmem.h:#define MAXMEM 262144 > > > > > > I proceeded to compile and install the kernel, The new Kernel boots up > > just > > > fine. But when I do a "top" i see the following: > > > > > > Mem: 34M Active, 8344K Inact, 11M Wired, 2544K Cache, 7456K Buf, 4188K Free > > > > > > 67 Megs of RAM! Why?! > > > >This is not indicative of anything. What does the system actually tell > >you it's using when it boots (look towards the top of the output of > >'dmesg')? > > > >-- > >\\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith > >\\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org > >\\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > *********************************************** > ICQ 22921676 > MSM Interactive. > El Bosque Norte 0134, Las Condes, Chile. > Phone: (56-2) 234-9852 Fax: (56-2) 233-8912 > Email: marcelo@msm.cl http://www.msm.cl > ******************************************* > > -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 13:10:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.clarkson.edu (mail.clarkson.edu [128.153.4.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D237137BE5A for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:10:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tuinstra@clarkson.edu) Received: (qmail 8284 invoked by uid 0); 16 May 2000 19:39:25 -0000 Received: from sc-1-51.sc.clarkson.edu (HELO clarkson.edu) (128.153.23.148) by mail.clarkson.edu with SMTP; 16 May 2000 19:39:25 -0000 Message-ID: <3921A3EE.E4464CA3@clarkson.edu> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 15:39:26 -0400 From: Dwight Tuinstra X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: occasional reboots References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bosko Milekic wrote: > > On Tue, 16 May 2000, Dwight Tuinstra wrote: > > > Pardon the "me too", but ... me too. With high frequency, > > I get a spontaneous reboot when trying to "make buildworld" > > after a fresh install of 4.0-RELEASE. Subsequent buildworlds > > dump core on either signal 10 or signal 11. A plain "make" > > will sometimes succeed, sometimes coredump with sig 10 or 11. > > The coredumps seem to happen at random locations in the build. > > Sounds like hardware trouble. > > Key words: random, SIGBUS I was afraid (but half expecting) someone would say that. Does anyone have any suggestions about figuring out the cause? Any suggestions on what (Award) BIOS options to set for maximum stability? Is it possible/probable that one of the option cards is to blame? (Zoom telephonics IDE modem and ATI Rage II Pro Turbo in one machine; de0 NIC and ATI Rage IIC in the other.) Could it be caused by having a swap file too large? Hmmm. come to think of it, the single successful build- world I've done came after I disconnected the (ATAPI) CD-ROM on my network-connected machine at work. I'll try disconnecting the CD-ROM on the home machine tonight and see what happens (may be 3-5 days before I can report back; I'll be out of action for a while). Hopefully I'll soon have a different mobo/CPU combo to try it on as well. Any other suggestions appreciated. --Dwight Tuinstra tuinstra@clarkson.edu tuinstra@northnet.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 13:16:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.campbell-mithun.com (Mercury.campbell-mithun.com [192.159.32.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D232637B6B0 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:16:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Received: from accord.grasslake.net (honda.grasslake.net [192.168.1.1]) by mercury.campbell-mithun.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA09391; Tue, 16 May 2000 15:15:19 -0500 Received: from marlowe (Marlowe.campbell-mithun.com [192.159.32.184]) by accord.grasslake.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA01891; Tue, 16 May 2000 15:14:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Message-ID: <006301bfbf73$a5005570$b8209fc0@marlowe> From: "Shawn Barnhart" To: Cc: "James Housley" References: <005601bfbf6d$3d9a3500$b8209fc0@marlowe> <3921A570.28EF968F@thehousleys.net> Subject: Re: Specify local .mc file for make world? Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 15:16:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes! Thanks! Perhaps a suggestion of a wording change in /usr/src/etc/sendmail/Makefile about how this feature works? Something along the lines of: # Local SENDMAIL_CF=your_sendmail.cf, may be set in /etc/make.conf. Warning! # If set, this causes make world to use your_sendmail.mc to generate # sendmail.cf and install over /etc/mail/sendmail.cf. # Caveat emptor! Be sure you want this before you enable it. Then people like me won't ask how it's done (as often). ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Housley" | cd /usr/src | make SENDMAIL_CF=your_sendmail.cf world | | this will use /usr/src/etc/sendmail/your_sendmail.mc to build | /usr/obj/usr/src/etc/sendmail/your_sendmail.cf and install it as | /etc/sendmail.cf | | I hope this answers your question | -- | The wise man built his network upon U*nx. | The foolish man built his network upon Windows. | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 13:21:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from april.cwnet.com (april.cwnet.com [205.162.110.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C3937BB67 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:21:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mmuir@es.co.nz) Received: from haus (usr2-d17.stk.cwnet.com [209.21.20.65]) by april.cwnet.com (8.9.0/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA12858; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <007301bfbf74$53bd9c30$411415d1@haus> From: "Mike Muir" To: "J McKitrick" , "stable" References: <20000516173854.A9898@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Subject: Re: shorter boot time? Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 13:21:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have seen a few remarks on the boot time for 4.0. This is strange, > because mine seems about the same. Also, it seems to have a rather long > delay about halfway through the boot process. I can't figure out what it > is... i know if the zip is attached (parallel port) it is checked during > this interval, but something else is going on that seems to slow my machine > down. Is there a way of figuring it out? > > Under 3.4, there was a check for 2 IDE drives in GENERIC, and when this was > removed, the boot process was significantly faster. But i did not see such > an option for 4.0 to disable probing a second IDE, if that is even the > issue. Any ideas? The small pause for me was for ATA devices. I no longer need them (no ide/atapi devices in system) and the boot just flies right past that point. The boot time on 4.0 is _significantly_ faster for me. -mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 13:27:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from minubian.houabg.com (minubian.houabg.com [206.109.247.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874D537B8A4 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:27:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dchapman@houabg.com) Received: from houcbs2.houabg.com (mailhost.houabg.com [206.109.247.20]) by minubian.houabg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16448 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 16:22:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dchapman@houabg.com) Received: from 216-118-21-147.pdq.net by houcbs2.houabg.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id KX89L225; Tue, 16 May 2000 15:30:42 -0500 Message-ID: <015001bfbf75$407743a0$931576d8@inethouston.net> From: "David W. Chapman Jr." To: "Mike Muir" , "J McKitrick" , "stable" References: <20000516173854.A9898@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <007301bfbf74$53bd9c30$411415d1@haus> Subject: Re: shorter boot time? Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 15:28:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4029.2901 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4029.2901 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You can set ide_delay to something like 2000 instead of the default of 8 seconds ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Muir" To: "J McKitrick" ; "stable" Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 3:21 PM Subject: Re: shorter boot time? > > > > I have seen a few remarks on the boot time for 4.0. This is strange, > > because mine seems about the same. Also, it seems to have a rather long > > delay about halfway through the boot process. I can't figure out what it > > is... i know if the zip is attached (parallel port) it is checked during > > this interval, but something else is going on that seems to slow my > machine > > down. Is there a way of figuring it out? > > > > Under 3.4, there was a check for 2 IDE drives in GENERIC, and when this > was > > removed, the boot process was significantly faster. But i did not see > such > > an option for 4.0 to disable probing a second IDE, if that is even the > > issue. Any ideas? > > The small pause for me was for ATA devices. I no longer need them (no > ide/atapi devices in system) and the boot just flies right past that point. > The boot time on 4.0 is _significantly_ faster for me. > > -mike > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 13:29:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0557837BB5F for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:29:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C61E89A for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 16:29:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA57933; Tue, 16 May 2000 16:29:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14625.44940.974136.577012@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 16:29:00 -0400 (EDT) To: "stable" Subject: Re: shorter boot time? In-Reply-To: <007301bfbf74$53bd9c30$411415d1@haus> References: <20000516173854.A9898@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <007301bfbf74$53bd9c30$411415d1@haus> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "MM" == Mike Muir writes: MM> The small pause for me was for ATA devices. I no longer need them (no MM> ide/atapi devices in system) and the boot just flies right past that point. MM> The boot time on 4.0 is _significantly_ faster for me. I run 3.4-STABLE and had a long pause detecting the second drive on my second IDE controller. Since that device doesn't exist, I removed it from my kernel and now it doesn't pause looking for it. My theory is to remove anything from the kernel that it is not likely to find on my system, which rarely changes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 13:38: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.surfree.cl (machine66.justicecorp.com [204.254.85.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F7C37B947; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:38:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcelo@msm.cl) Received: from marcelo.msm.cl (unknown [204.254.85.118]) by mail.surfree.cl (Postfix) with SMTP id B9145EB147; Tue, 16 May 2000 16:41:47 -0400 (CLT) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000516163659.00e98100@msm.cl> X-Sender: miturbe@msm.cl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 16:37:53 -0400 To: Mike Smith From: "Marcelo J. Iturbe" Subject: Re: Memory recongnition problem... Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200005162006.NAA03041@mass.cdrom.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry, I thought I had mentioned the OS version which is 3.3 At 01:06 PM 5/16/00 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > It shows "real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes)", which is what I am > > trying to understand... The bios recognizes it as 256M and so did NT (When > > that OS was installed). > >Ok. So now you can tell us which OS version you are running, and if it's >4.0 or later, hook up a serial console and get us the memory map that's >printed in 'verbose' boot mode. It sounds like your system may have a >memory hole at the 64M mark, which will cause memory above that point to >fail to be detected in pre-4.0 systems. > > > > > At 12:49 PM 5/16/00 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I sent this message orrinally to "questions" but got no reply.. > sorry for > > > > the cross-post... > > > > > > > > I have a compaq server with 256 megs in RAM, so I recompiled GENERIC > > > kernel > > > > with the option "MAXMEM=262144", Once the new kernel was configured I > > > ran a > > > > grep just to make sure. > > > > su-2.03# grep -i maxmem * > > > > config.c:___options \"MAXMEM=262144\" \n\ > > > > opt_maxmem.h:#define MAXMEM 262144 > > > > > > > > I proceeded to compile and install the kernel, The new Kernel boots up > > > just > > > > fine. But when I do a "top" i see the following: > > > > > > > > Mem: 34M Active, 8344K Inact, 11M Wired, 2544K Cache, 7456K Buf, > 4188K Free > > > > > > > > 67 Megs of RAM! Why?! > > > > > >This is not indicative of anything. What does the system actually tell > > >you it's using when it boots (look towards the top of the output of > > >'dmesg')? > > > > > >-- > > >\\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith > > >\\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org > > >\\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > > > > *********************************************** > > ICQ 22921676 > > MSM Interactive. > > El Bosque Norte 0134, Las Condes, Chile. > > Phone: (56-2) 234-9852 Fax: (56-2) 233-8912 > > Email: marcelo@msm.cl http://www.msm.cl > > ******************************************* > > > > > >-- >\\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith >\\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org >\\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message *********************************************** ICQ 22921676 MSM Interactive. El Bosque Norte 0134, Las Condes, Chile. Phone: (56-2) 234-9852 Fax: (56-2) 233-8912 Email: marcelo@msm.cl http://www.msm.cl ******************************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 13:47: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7FEE37B62B for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:46:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from micheloo@xs4all.nl) Received: from list1.xs4all.nl (list1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.52]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA10103 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 22:46:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from root@localhost) by list1.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA05009; Tue, 16 May 2000 22:46:48 +0200 (CEST) From: micheloo@xs4all.nl (Michel Oosterhof) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Via: imploder /usr/local/lib/mail/news2mail/news2mail at list1.xs4all.nl Subject: ESS Solo (1394) support in 4.0-stable Date: 16 May 2000 22:46:43 +0200 Organization: XS4ALL, Networking for the masses Message-ID: <8fsc3j$2tl$1@xs3.xs4all.nl> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone know if this card is supported? I know some other ESS models are. My card is an on-board pci card, i added the pcm device in my kernel, but it is not recognized (I just get the unknown pci device found at...etc). Should I try with the vox driver and try to see if i can get there with SB compatibility? Regards, michel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 13:47:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (adsl-63-202-176-114.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.176.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A7237B62B; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:47:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03309; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:48:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200005162048.NAA03309@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Marcelo J. Iturbe" Cc: Mike Smith , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Memory recongnition problem... In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 16 May 2000 16:37:53 EDT." <4.3.1.2.20000516163659.00e98100@msm.cl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 13:48:10 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Sorry, I thought I had mentioned the OS version which is 3.3 Try enabling options "VM86" in your kernel. This will use some smarter BIOS routines for finding memory, however I'd strongly recommend updating to 4.0 at your earliest convenience. > At 01:06 PM 5/16/00 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > It shows "real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes)", which is what I am > > > trying to understand... The bios recognizes it as 256M and so did NT (When > > > that OS was installed). > > > >Ok. So now you can tell us which OS version you are running, and if it's > >4.0 or later, hook up a serial console and get us the memory map that's > >printed in 'verbose' boot mode. It sounds like your system may have a > >memory hole at the 64M mark, which will cause memory above that point to > >fail to be detected in pre-4.0 systems. > > > > > > > > At 12:49 PM 5/16/00 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > I sent this message orrinally to "questions" but got no reply.. > > sorry for > > > > > the cross-post... > > > > > > > > > > I have a compaq server with 256 megs in RAM, so I recompiled GENERIC > > > > kernel > > > > > with the option "MAXMEM=262144", Once the new kernel was configured I > > > > ran a > > > > > grep just to make sure. > > > > > su-2.03# grep -i maxmem * > > > > > config.c:___options \"MAXMEM=262144\" \n\ > > > > > opt_maxmem.h:#define MAXMEM 262144 > > > > > > > > > > I proceeded to compile and install the kernel, The new Kernel boots up > > > > just > > > > > fine. But when I do a "top" i see the following: > > > > > > > > > > Mem: 34M Active, 8344K Inact, 11M Wired, 2544K Cache, 7456K Buf, > > 4188K Free > > > > > > > > > > 67 Megs of RAM! Why?! > > > > > > > >This is not indicative of anything. What does the system actually tell > > > >you it's using when it boots (look towards the top of the output of > > > >'dmesg')? > > > > > > > >-- > > > >\\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith > > > >\\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org > > > >\\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > > > > > > > *********************************************** > > > ICQ 22921676 > > > MSM Interactive. > > > El Bosque Norte 0134, Las Condes, Chile. > > > Phone: (56-2) 234-9852 Fax: (56-2) 233-8912 > > > Email: marcelo@msm.cl http://www.msm.cl > > > ******************************************* > > > > > > > > > >-- > >\\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith > >\\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org > >\\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > *********************************************** > ICQ 22921676 > MSM Interactive. > El Bosque Norte 0134, Las Condes, Chile. > Phone: (56-2) 234-9852 Fax: (56-2) 233-8912 > Email: marcelo@msm.cl http://www.msm.cl > ******************************************* > > -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 13:50: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cypherpunks.ai (cypherpunks.ai [209.88.68.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 367EF37BB75 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:49:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeroen@vangelderen.org) Received: from vangelderen.org (intefix.ai [209.88.68.216]) by cypherpunks.ai (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CCC253 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 16:49:57 -0400 (AST) Message-ID: <3921B45C.1202608F@vangelderen.org> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 16:49:32 -0400 From: "Jeroen C. van Gelderen" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: -STABLE broken as of 15 May 20:49:59 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG usr.sbin/mtree/excludes.c line 32 breaks the world. Looks like this was caused by and untested copy 'n paste or something. Committer has been notified. The fix is to delete line 32 in excludes.c . Cheers, Jeroen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 14: 6:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from botbay.net (botbay.net [151.197.159.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7D237BB79 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 14:06:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wcampbel@botbay.net) Received: from localhost (wcampbel@localhost) by botbay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01611; Tue, 16 May 2000 17:06:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wcampbel@botbay.net) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 17:06:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Walter Campbell To: Dwight Tuinstra Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: occasional reboots In-Reply-To: <3921A3EE.E4464CA3@clarkson.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In my case, it was a bad L2 Cache chip. Try disabling the cache and trying to duplicate the problem (issue a few buildworld's for instance) Also check the RAM, DMA Controller Chips, and any adapter cards. Without having it cause SIGBUS or SIGSEGV and the occasional panic then reboot, You should also suspect the Power Supply > I was afraid (but half expecting) someone would say that. > > Does anyone have any suggestions about figuring out the cause? > > Any suggestions on what (Award) BIOS options to set for > maximum stability? > > Is it possible/probable that one of the option cards is to > blame? (Zoom telephonics IDE modem and ATI Rage II Pro Turbo > in one machine; de0 NIC and ATI Rage IIC in the other.) > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 14:28:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BA24037B88F for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 14:28:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 95948 invoked by uid 1000); 16 May 2000 21:28:23 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 May 2000 21:28:23 -0000 Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 17:28:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.0-STABLE and sound In-Reply-To: <20000516152656.B8258@pir.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 16 May 2000, Peter Radcliffe wrote: [...] : It seems to mostly work, but xmms is producing static a lot of the time : on the same mp3s that work ok on another 4.0-S machine with a SBLive. Turn off the equalizer, it will work then. I have this exact same problem with the following card (an older version of what you have): sbc0: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5 drq 1,5 on isa0 sbc0: setting card to irq 5, drq 1, 5 pcm0: on sbc0 : I did reinstall xmms, etc, after upgrading, on both machines. I did that too, save yourself the time and turn the equalizer off =) : After getting static from xmms I can do 'mpg123 -c -v ', which : will normally work and then xmms will play the same file it failed on : before ... It would seem that no equalizer means it works. I have no idea why =) : Something dropping into the wrong state somewhere ? : : P. : : -- : pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu : : : : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org : with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message : Matt Heckaman matt@arpa.mail.net http://www.lucida.qc.ca -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5Ib13dMMtMcA1U5ARAk5bAKCnjlUXjYbDdVi8Sa58/5NvFzOf5ACfYvp0 0vhyu50OzZ7LhKWj5nt9R9M= =y10a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 14:31:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D67D37BB52 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 14:31:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 12rovn-0003EQ-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 May 2000 17:31:11 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 17:31:11 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.0-STABLE and sound Message-ID: <20000516173111.G8258@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20000516152656.B8258@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET on Tue, May 16, 2000 at 05:28:22PM -0400 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matt Heckaman probably said: > Turn off the equalizer, it will work then. I have this exact same problem > with the following card (an older version of what you have): I saw the comment about that, some time ago. Already turned it off. > It would seem that no equalizer means it works. I have no idea why =) I still have problems with the equaliser off, even mpg123 has problems sometimes. :/ P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 14:34:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 766D337B88F for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 14:34:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 96039 invoked by uid 1000); 16 May 2000 21:34:18 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 May 2000 21:34:18 -0000 Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 17:34:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.0-STABLE and sound In-Reply-To: <20000516173111.G8258@pir.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 16 May 2000, Peter Radcliffe wrote: [..] : I saw the comment about that, some time ago. Already turned it off. Ugh. I was hoping that would solve your problems. [...] : I still have problems with the equaliser off, even mpg123 has problems : sometimes. mpg123 has never given me any problems here. I'm now at a loss. : :/ : : P. : : -- : pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu : : : : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org : with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message : Matt Heckaman matt@arpa.mail.net http://www.lucida.qc.ca -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5Ib7adMMtMcA1U5ARAmfXAKCLWPRrNzXPCujWoii/HO77rOXOJACgqeNW /BuqdkTmO/eYaRA00cW5AwM= =uVGz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 14:41:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f7.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D6B5037B516 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 14:41:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from strat72@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 65886 invoked by uid 0); 16 May 2000 21:41:23 -0000 Message-ID: <20000516214123.65885.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 136.142.23.168 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 16 May 2000 14:41:23 PDT X-Originating-IP: [136.142.23.168] From: "Fender Stratocaster" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: usr.sbin/mtree Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 17:41:23 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there, I installed a fresh FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE and today 5/16/00 arround 2:30PM I vcsup to 4.0-STABLE. I got an error while i was doing make world. ===> usr.sbin/mtree cc -O -pipe -DMD5 -DSHA1 -DRMD160 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/mtree/compare.c cc -O -pipe -DMD5 -DSHA1 -DRMD160 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/mtree/../../usr.bin/cksum/crc.c cc -O -pipe -DMD5 -DSHA1 -DRMD160 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/mtree/create.c cc -O -pipe -DMD5 -DSHA1 -DRMD160 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/mtree/excludes.c /usr/src/usr.sbin/mtree/excludes.c:32: syntax error before string constant *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/usr.sbin/mtree. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/usr.sbin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. Thanks, ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 14:45:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F8B37B5DC for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 14:45:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF88E89A for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 17:45:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA58531; Tue, 16 May 2000 17:45:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14625.49540.369749.956871@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 17:45:40 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ESS Solo (1394) support in 4.0-stable In-Reply-To: <8fsc3j$2tl$1@xs3.xs4all.nl> References: <8fsc3j$2tl$1@xs3.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "MO" == Michel Oosterhof writes: MO> Does anyone know if this card is supported? I know some other ESS MO> models are. My card is an on-board pci card, i added the pcm MO> device in my kernel, but it is not recognized (I just get the MO> unknown pci device found at...etc). If you do, please share. The only way I got this card (embedded in my m/b) to run is using the OSS drivers from 4front. They do not support FBSD 4.0 though, which is most annoying. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 14:49: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB87737B5DC for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 14:49:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EBA2E89B for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 17:48:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA58541; Tue, 16 May 2000 17:48:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14625.49737.172646.443326@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 17:48:57 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ESS Solo (1394) support in 4.0-stable In-Reply-To: <14625.49540.369749.956871@onceler.kcilink.com> References: <8fsc3j$2tl$1@xs3.xs4all.nl> <14625.49540.369749.956871@onceler.kcilink.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "VK" == Vivek Khera writes: VK> m/b) to run is using the OSS drivers from 4front. They do not support VK> FBSD 4.0 though, which is most annoying. One more note: later linux kernels have beta drivers for this card, so perhaps some kind soul may port that over... I have no idea how to do it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 15:24:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.syntegra.com (ns1.syntegra.com [150.143.16.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F1737BB62 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 15:24:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clg1@daemon.arh.ms.cdc.com) Received: from [129.179.161.11] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 16 May 2000 17:24:22 -0500 Received: from daemon.arh.ms.cdc.com by cdsms.cdc.com with ESMTP; Tue, 16 May 2000 17:24:20 -0500 Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 17:24:20 -0500 (CDT) From: "Christopher L. Goetzke" Reply-To: "Christopher L. Goetzke" To: Fender Stratocaster Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: usr.sbin/mtree In-Reply-To: <20000516214123.65885.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 16 May 2000, Fender Stratocaster wrote: > Hi there, > > I installed a fresh FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE and today 5/16/00 arround 2:30PM I > vcsup to 4.0-STABLE. > I got an error while i was doing make world. > > ===> usr.sbin/mtree > cc -O -pipe -DMD5 -DSHA1 -DRMD160 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > /usr/src/usr.sbin/mtree/compare.c > cc -O -pipe -DMD5 -DSHA1 -DRMD160 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > /usr/src/usr.sbin/mtree/../../usr.bin/cksum/crc.c > cc -O -pipe -DMD5 -DSHA1 -DRMD160 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > /usr/src/usr.sbin/mtree/create.c > cc -O -pipe -DMD5 -DSHA1 -DRMD160 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > /usr/src/usr.sbin/mtree/excludes.c > /usr/src/usr.sbin/mtree/excludes.c:32: syntax error before string constant > *** Error code 1 Ooh! An easy one! Even *I* can help with this! From earlier today: On Tue, 16 May 2000, Jeroen C. van Gelderen wrote: > > Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 16:49:32 -0400 > From: Jeroen C. van Gelderen > To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: -STABLE broken as of 15 May 20:49:59 UTC > > > usr.sbin/mtree/excludes.c line 32 breaks the world. > Looks like this was caused by and untested copy 'n > paste or something. Committer has been notified. > > The fix is to delete line 32 in excludes.c . > > Cheers, > Jeroen CLG -- Christopher L. Goetzke Consultant/Ronin Technomancer Syntegra (USA), Inc. Christopher.L.Goetzke@syntegra.com We are too busy mopping the floor to turn off the faucet. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 16:35:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scratch-n-sniff.com (inmypants.net [207.230.34.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C46C37B61A for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 16:35:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@scratch-n-sniff.com) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by scratch-n-sniff.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA68150 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 16:29:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@scratch-n-sniff.com) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 16:29:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Nick Strupp To: stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 16:49: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105BE37B650 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 16:48:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA64401; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:49:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 19:49:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: mi@privatelabs.com Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: siag anyone (Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000) In-Reply-To: <200005161242.IAA60977@misha.privatelabs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 16 May 2000 mi@privatelabs.com wrote: >Siag as in /usr/ports/math/siag ? > > -mi Very cool. As a Scheme hacker I may have to check that out later. Anyone have any justification as to why that's under ports/math though? Brandon D. Valentine -- "You should believe in death, taxes, Larry Ellison's loathing of Bill Gates and Intel's inability to ship a working chipset." - Dr Spinola, The Register, 05/13/2000 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 18:32:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (mail.dohboys.com [208.26.253.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EA4437B65C for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 18:32:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.184]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.1) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 18:32:47 -0700 Message-ID: <3921F6D5.5E7B92AE@3-cities.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 18:33:09 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Sysinstall Problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have build 4.0-Stable and tried to build sysinstall. I am seeing echo '#include ' > makedevs.tmp ./rtermcap ansi | file2c 'const char termcap_ansi[] = {' ',0};' >> makedevs.tm p ./rtermcap cons25 | file2c 'const char termcap_cons25[] = {' ',0};' >> makedev s.tmp ./rtermcap cons25-m | file2c 'const char termcap_cons25_m[] = {' ',0};' >> mak edevs.tmp ./rtermcap cons25r | file2c 'const char termcap_cons25r[] = {' ',0};' >> maked evs.tmp ./rtermcap cons25r-m | file2c 'const char termcap_cons25r_m[] = {' ',0};' >> m akedevs.tmp ./rtermcap cons25l1 | file2c 'const char termcap_cons25l1[] = {' ',0};' >> mak edevs.tmp ./rtermcap cons25l1-m | file2c 'const char termcap_cons25l1_m[] = {' ',0};' >> makedevs.tmp ./rtermcap vt100 | file2c 'const char termcap_vt100[] = {' ',0};' >> makedevs. tmp file2c 'u_char boot0[] = {' '};' < /boot/boot0 >> makedevs.tmp file2c 'u_char mbr[] = {' '};' < /boot/mbr >> makedevs.tmp mv makedevs.tmp makedevs.c cc -pipe -Wall -I/usr/src/release/sysinstall/../../gnu/lib/libdialog -I/usr/src/ release/sysinstall -I/usr/src/release/sysinstall/../../sys -c makedevs.c makedevs.c:4: syntax error before `,' *** Error code 1 make.txt (99%) When I try to logon to that system, the terminal capability is all messed up. Any ideas on what I can do to fix the problem. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 18:37:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from indigo.dreamfire.net (indigo.dreamfire.net [207.113.154.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50BC837B68A for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 18:37:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sean@dreamfire.net) Received: from valiant.dreamfire.net (valiant [24.11.227.21]) by indigo.dreamfire.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758999452 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 18:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by valiant.dreamfire.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AE46B29F; Tue, 16 May 2000 18:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 18:37:39 -0700 From: Sean-Paul Rees To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: IMAP Server Recommendation Message-ID: <20000516183739.A74270@seanrees.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just tried building the imap-uw port and I got the neat little error message giving me all that jazz about security flaws and all that. Its not a problem here because I have IMAP firewalled off and no user accounts that aren't trusted (like family members and stuff) Anyhoo... I dislike UW-IMAP anyway, anyone have any IMAP server recommendations that can use regular user accounts and homedir mailspools (I have Postfix setup to to this)? -- Cheers, Sean Sean-Paul Rees (sean@seanrees.com) Web: http://www.seanrees.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 19:58:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail-out.visi.com (kauket.visi.com [209.98.98.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A74237B538 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:58:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sdk@visi.com) Received: from isis.visi.com (isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by mail-out.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 788DD37EC for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 21:58:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from sdk@localhost) by isis.visi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA27742 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 May 2000 21:58:54 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 21:58:54 -0500 From: Stephen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: emu10k1 Message-ID: <20000516215854.A27564@visi.com> References: <20000516124122.17207A82F@spider.forumone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.1i In-Reply-To: <20000516124122.17207A82F@spider.forumone.com>; from Joakim Ryden on Tue, May 16, 2000 at 08:41:22AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 08:41:22AM -0400, Joakim Ryden wrote: > I cvsup'ed 4.0 -S sources last night, built and installed world, remade my kernel with pcm support and rebooted and played mp3's til I was blue in the face last night. :-) This rocks! > ditto :) Thanks for the EMU10K1 support! sk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 20:24:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ct.home.com [24.2.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F2937B68A for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 20:24:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsikora@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.2.168.186]) by mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with ESMTP id <20000517032428.TJVQ18096.mail.rdc1.ct.home.com@home.com> for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 20:24:28 -0700 Message-ID: <3922114F.B7E1B5FA@home.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 23:26:07 -0400 From: Ted Sikora Reply-To: tsikora@powerusersbbs.com Organization: Jtl Development X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US,en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: ESS Solo (1394) support in 4.0-stable References: <8fsc3j$2tl$1@xs3.xs4all.nl> <14625.49540.369749.956871@onceler.kcilink.com> <14625.49737.172646.443326@onceler.kcilink.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Vivek Khera wrote: > > >>>>> "VK" == Vivek Khera writes: > > VK> m/b) to run is using the OSS drivers from 4front. They do not support > VK> FBSD 4.0 though, which is most annoying. > > One more note: later linux kernels have beta drivers for this card, so > perhaps some kind soul may port that over... I have no idea how to do > it. It does work excellent under Linux. I have a Linux box with an ASuS mb with the onboard ESS Solo1 audio. The driver is part of the standard 2.2 kernel. Has been since 2.1 I think. -- Ted Sikora Jtl Development Group tsikora@powerusersbbs.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 21:26:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.htwm.de (mail.htwm.de [141.55.192.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6E337B54A for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 21:26:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bommel@HTWM.De) Received: from sulaco.mcn.htwm.de (mcn-r1.misc.htwm.de [141.55.101.23]) by mail.htwm.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA25399 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 06:26:18 +0200 Received: (from bommel@localhost) by sulaco.mcn.htwm.de (8.9.3/8.8.8) id GAA47930 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 17 May 2000 06:25:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 06:25:41 +0200 From: Gregor Moeller To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.0-STABLE and sound Message-ID: <20000517062541.A47633@sulaco.mcn.htwm.de> Reply-To: gmoeller@HTWM.De References: <39214A3B.C73230E4@thehousleys.net> <20000516152656.B8258@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000516152656.B8258@pir.net>; from pir@pir.net on Tue, May 16, 2000 at 03:26:56PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 03:26:56PM -0400, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > I'm having some odd problems with my Creative ViBRA16X; > > sbc0: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b > irq 5 drq 1,3 on isa0 > sbc0: setting card to irq 5, drq 1, 3 > pcm0: on sbc0 > > It seems to mostly work, but xmms is producing static a lot of the time > on the same mp3s that work ok on another 4.0-S machine with a SBLive. Exactly the same odd thing here: sbc0: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5 drq 1,3 on isa0 sbc0: setting card to irq 5, drq 1, 3 pcm0: on sbc0 (on freebsd 4.0-stable with kernel sources from 05-16-2000) When starting playback of a sound file in 1 of 3 cases there will be loud static. Stopping the player and then continuing playback mostly helps. No matter if using xmms, gqmpeg, mpg123, realplayer etc. The chance for getting this noise is higher by using gqmpeg or xmms, because they seem to detach/reattach to the sound device after every song. with mpg123, once the playback of the first song in the list is ok, there won't be a problem with the remaining songs. There is a problem report about this: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=17923 Btw: in fbsd 3.x i got the same loud static when the sound output continued after it stopped due to high load on the machine. This doesn't occur on 4.0 anymore. cu, Gregor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 22:22:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rhenium.btinternet.com (rhenium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E6937BB93; Tue, 16 May 2000 22:22:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from [62.6.101.160] (helo=parish.my.domain) by neodymium with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12rmOq-0007Aq-00; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:49:00 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01244; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:48:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 19:48:26 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: David Gilbert Cc: chad@DCFinc.com, andrsn@ANDRSN.STANFORD.EDU, freebsd-emulators@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 Message-ID: <20000516194825.H233@parish> References: <14624.35092.234693.852141@trooper.velocet.net> <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> <14624.44959.656398.461558@trooper.velocet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <14624.44959.656398.461558@trooper.velocet.net>; from dgilbert@velocet.ca on Mon, May 15, 2000 at 10:17:03PM -0400 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 10:17:03PM -0400, David Gilbert wrote: > >>>>> "Chad" == Chad R Larson writes: > > Chad> As I recall, David Gilbert wrote: > >> I must say that I'm dissapointed that I can't run it. > > Chad> This is older hat, but I've had WordPerfect 8 running on a > Chad> 2.2.8-STABLE system under Linux emulation since Dec, 1998. > > Chad> Has anyone tried to evaluate pros and cons of the various office > Chad> suites? > > Chad> 1) Applixware - native > > Applixware is a good but somewhat immature product. I have run it > both under linux emulation and under native code. While it's a good > basic package, it tends to fall down if your needs are complex. > > The programability is cool. I could see getting into it if the > spreadsheet was a little more featureful (or maybe we just havn't > found the features yet). I must say that Applixware is the best > behaved X application of its type, if that's anything to go on. > > Chad> 2) StarOffice - linux > > I must admit that I should take another look at this. My earlier > impression was that it was kludgy. I don't know if it has improved. > Works very well, just a bit (lot) slow. > Chad> 3) WordPerfect - linux > > I still use WordPerfect 8. There is no "office" to it, but > WordPerfect 8 for linux runs well and is a featureful product. > Works OK here too, except that it gives "An error occurred opening the file" when trying to open a file on a mounted FAT16 partition (a fix of making the mount dir all lower-case worked in 3.x, but doesn't in 4.0 ) > Now... I havn't even been able to get Corel Office 2000 running on > Debian yet, so I'm not impressed. > > Chad> 4) anything - Wine > > It's impressive that Excel almost runs. I havn't really tried Word > since WordPerfect fills my current needs. > Word 97 seems to work fairly well under wine http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/word97_screen_shot.jpg > Chad> 5) ??? > > Someone mentioned koffice? What's the spreadsheed engine? Last I > tried gnumeric, I was nonplussed. > > Dave. > > -- > ============================================================================ > |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | > |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | > |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | > =========================================================GLO================ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- ...and on the eighth day God created UNIX ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 22:57: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ct.home.com [24.2.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3961A37B95C for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 22:57:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsikora@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.2.168.186]) by mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with ESMTP id <20000517055702.UXLK18096.mail.rdc1.ct.home.com@home.com> for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 22:57:02 -0700 Message-ID: <39223511.84CEDD6D@home.com> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 01:58:41 -0400 From: Ted Sikora Reply-To: tsikora@powerusersbbs.com Organization: Jtl Development X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US,en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: kvm_open: proc size mismatch Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 4.0-STABLE I just found this after experiencing some system slowdowns under OpenMotif's mwm. kvm_open: proc size mismatch (42968 total, 1044 chunks) top: Out of memory. -- Ted Sikora Jtl Development Group tsikora@powerusersbbs.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 23:11: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from evil.2y.net (ztown1-3-49.adsl.one.net [216.23.29.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF88937B54A for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 23:10:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cokane@evil.2y.net) Received: (from cokane@localhost) by evil.2y.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA04649; Wed, 17 May 2000 02:15:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cokane) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 02:15:08 -0400 From: Coleman Kane To: "Sergey A. Ivanov" Cc: freebsd-stable@freeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: occasional reboots Message-ID: <20000517021508.A4616@cokane.yi.org> References: <7589.000516@pd.chel.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <7589.000516@pd.chel.ru>; from lw@pd.chel.ru on Tue, May 16, 2000 at 04:08:18AM -0400 X-Vim: vim:tw=70:ts=4:sw=4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This happened to me too for awhile, I stayed stable and it seemed like it got weeded out eventually. I haven't had this prob. for some time. Sergey A. Ivanov had the audacity to say: > Hello stable! > > My FBSD box sometimes rebooted "for no reason". No any useful > messages in logs. I have FBSD4-S cvsupped, builded and installed this > monday. Hov can i collect enought info about possible reasons? > > > Best regards, > Sergey mailto:lw@pd.chel.ru > ICQ UIN: 49432691 > http://lw.narod.ru > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Coleman Kane President, UC Free O.S. Users Group - http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 16 23:29: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lesbains.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (lesbains.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.12.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA7C37B987 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 23:29:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de) Received: from informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (brabantio [134.2.12.25]) by lesbains.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C281B4A5 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 08:29:03 +0200 (DFT) Received: (from sperber@localhost) by informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (AIX4.3/UCB 8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA33018; Wed, 17 May 2000 08:29:02 +0200 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.0-STABLE and sound References: <39214A3B.C73230E4@thehousleys.net> <20000516152656.B8258@pir.net> <20000517062541.A47633@sulaco.mcn.htwm.de> From: sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]) Date: 17 May 2000 08:29:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: Gregor Moeller's message of "Wed, 17 May 2000 06:25:41 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0804 (Gnus v5.8.4) XEmacs/21.1 (Acadia) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hmm, I'm also not entirely happy with 4.0 sound: I can't seem to be able to record at a decent sampling rate. I have two boxes, one with: pcm0: port 0xd000-0xd03f irq 5 at device 11.0 on pci0 (This is a Soundblaster PCI16) and sbc0: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5 drq 1,5 on isa0 sbc0: setting card to irq 5, drq 1, 5 pcm0: on sbc0 Recording via Sox and DAP always produces sound that sound no different at 8000 Hz. Looking at the Sox source code, it does use the right ioctl. (I have to admit 4.0 is the first system I'm trying native sound on, I was using OSS before.) -- Cheers =8-} Mike Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 0:29: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from omahpop1.omah.uswest.net (omahpop1.omah.uswest.net [204.26.64.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4985A37B953 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 00:28:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hey9811@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 7121 invoked by alias); 17 May 2000 07:28:55 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG@fixme Received: (qmail 7111 invoked by uid 0); 17 May 2000 07:28:54 -0000 Received: from dialupg169.omah.uswest.net (HELO yahoo.com) (209.180.107.169) by omahpop1.omah.uswest.net with SMTP; 17 May 2000 07:28:54 -0000 Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 02:30:01 -0500 (cdt) From: Virtual Bob Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Memory recongnition problem... In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.2.20000516163659.00e98100@msm.cl> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: NULL@pop.mail.yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 16 May 2000, Marcelo J. Iturbe wrote: > Sorry, I thought I had mentioned the OS version which is 3.3 > > At 01:06 PM 5/16/00 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > It shows "real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes)", which is what I am > > > trying to understand... The bios recognizes it as 256M and so did NT (When > > > that OS was installed). If your BIOS has ">64MB RAM for OS/2" option, fiddle with it and see if it makes any difference. ------------- clip here with virtual scissors -------------- ************************************************************ Keyboard stuck error. Press F1 to continue. Any unsolicited e-mails will be charged US$500 per e-mail, plus court cost. Your contribution to Bill Gates' personal wealth: US$380.94 ************************************************************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 0:34:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rhenium.btinternet.com (rhenium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6F3F37B953 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 00:34:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from [62.6.101.160] (helo=parish.my.domain) by protactinium with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12rnBg-0004pP-00; Tue, 16 May 2000 20:39:28 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01289; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:58:19 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 19:58:19 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Szilveszter Adam Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 Message-ID: <20000516195819.J233@parish> References: <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200005160032.KAA09256@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au> <20000516084052.A12672@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000516084052.A12672@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu>; from sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu on Tue, May 16, 2000 at 08:40:53AM +0200 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 08:40:53AM +0200, Szilveszter Adam wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:32:49AM +1000, Gary Roberts wrote: > [snip] > > 2. It caused W98 to crash more frequently when she was trying to `push'. > > Hmmm I cannot comment on this one, the w9x line is fairly easy to crash... > all you need is sometimes to take out the floppy disk when it thinks you > should not do this... on the other hand, I suspect we have some of the > highest uptimes on w95 boxes here at the dorm because we do not turn them > off every evening, just log off:-) > Doesn't W95 hang after 47.9(?) days anyway ;-) > > 3. She wasn't able to produce documents that our clients could open > > correctly under Office97. Since we send a lot of documents as email > > This is something I do not understand. During the summer I used to work on a > document in the following fashion: I went into the office in the morning, > used Office97 there. Went home, fired up StarOffice, worked some more. Then > next morning continued with Office97... and had absolutely no problems with > it. Sometimes Word thought it was an RTF file, but so what? I also noticed > that the same file, when saved in StarOffice, became considerably smaller, > because I suspect much of the bloat was removed from it. Word uses Unicode for it's files, 16-bits per character. [snip] > > Regards: > > Szilveszter ADAM > Szeged University > Szeged Hungary > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- ...and on the eighth day God created UNIX ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 0:49:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rock.ghis.net (rock.ghis.net [209.222.164.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C377837BA66 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 00:49:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@blackdawn.com) Received: from argon.blackdawn.com ([209.69.77.41]) by rock.ghis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA16324; Wed, 17 May 2000 00:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by argon.blackdawn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4BB541907; Wed, 17 May 2000 03:47:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 03:47:54 -0400 From: Will Andrews To: Mark Ovens Cc: Szilveszter Adam , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 Message-ID: <20000517034754.D89671@argon.blackdawn.com> References: <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200005160032.KAA09256@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au> <20000516084052.A12672@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> <20000516195819.J233@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000516195819.J233@parish>; from mark@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org on Tue, May 16, 2000 at 07:58:19PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 07:58:19PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > Doesn't W95 hang after 47.9(?) days anyway ;-) I have a Windows box across the lab here, while running Windows 95 (one of the older releases) it often attained 200-250 day uptimes. In stark contrast, under Windows 98, it usually lasts between 30 to 60 days. Of course, I sure like my FreeBSD's box (which takes a lot bigger beating than that secretarial win98 machine)'s uptime: 3:46AM up 101 days, 21:45, 15 users, load averages: 1.22, 1.18, 1.25 Take care. -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 0:58: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD5137BA91 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 00:57:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michel@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.10.0/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id e4H7vm914311 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:57:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr ([134.157.10.102]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id JAA23847 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:57:36 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from michel@localhost) by rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00474 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:57:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from michel) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 09:57:51 +0200 From: Michel Talon To: stable Subject: Re: shorter boot time? Message-ID: <20000517095751.A453@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mail-Followup-To: stable References: <20000516173854.A9898@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <007301bfbf74$53bd9c30$411415d1@haus> <14625.44940.974136.577012@onceler.kcilink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <14625.44940.974136.577012@onceler.kcilink.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 04:29:00PM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: > >>>>> "MM" == Mike Muir writes: > > MM> The small pause for me was for ATA devices. I no longer need them (no > MM> ide/atapi devices in system) and the boot just flies right past that point. > MM> The boot time on 4.0 is _significantly_ faster for me. > > I run 3.4-STABLE and had a long pause detecting the second drive on my > second IDE controller. Since that device doesn't exist, I removed it > from my kernel and now it doesn't pause looking for it. I have a machine with SCSI disk, but IDE Cdrom, so i cannot remove the ata driver. Well, it pauses for a very long time probing IDE disks. I have not found any way to reduce this delay. Under 3.4, there was no such problem. -- Michel Talon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 1: 7:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tulip.okilab.oki.co.jp (okigate.oki.co.jp [202.226.91.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C3237B789 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 01:07:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hyama@okilab.oki.co.jp) Received: from localhost (tulip.okilab.oki.co.jp [172.24.23.187]) by tulip.okilab.oki.co.jp (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA75046 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 17:07:03 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hyama@okilab.oki.co.jp) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD 4.1 schedule From: Hideki Yamamoto X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 19.28 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20000517170703X.hyama@okilab.oki.co.jp> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 17:07:03 +0900 X-Dispatcher: imput version 990905(IM130) Lines: 9 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! Will FreeBSD 4.1 be released on schedule? If so, does someone tell me when it will be? Thanks in advance. Hideki Yamamoto To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 1:25:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 510E537B6D8 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 01:25:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA27075; Wed, 17 May 2000 01:28:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Hideki Yamamoto Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.1 schedule In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 May 2000 17:07:03 +0900." <20000517170703X.hyama@okilab.oki.co.jp> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 01:28:25 -0700 Message-ID: <27072.958552105@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Will FreeBSD 4.1 be released on schedule? > If so, does someone tell me when it will be? Yes, it will be released on July 15th. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 2:16:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.shikoku.ne.jp (smtp.shikoku.ne.jp [210.157.171.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9157937B7AA for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 02:16:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nin@shikoku.ne.jp) Received: (qmail 5421 invoked by alias); 17 May 2000 18:16:25 +0900 Received: (qmail 5398 invoked from network); 17 May 2000 18:16:24 +0900 Received: from a093.uwajima.shikoku.ne.jp (HELO localhost) (210.157.174.93) by smtp.shikoku.ne.jp with SMTP; 17 May 2000 18:16:23 +0900 Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 18:15:34 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20000517.181534.59647591.nin@smtp.shikoku.ne.jp> To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com Cc: FreeBSD stable ML Subject: FreeBSD 3.5 schedule ?? (was Re: FreeBSD 4.1 schedule) From: Ninomiya Hideyuki In-Reply-To: <27072.958552105@localhost> References: <20000517170703X.hyama@okilab.oki.co.jp> <27072.958552105@localhost> X-Face: }ft&~i*0<;p9PLxI*G[:X *Bzq[.pq8DgHW)Vf6t{KT[Wjh(.Q_%0(]U,u=BDy5S X-Face-Version: X-Face utility v1.3.6.10 - "Yellow Submarine (remix)" with Select X-Face v0.14 - "Keep Under Cover" X-Mailer: Mew version 1.95b34 on XEmacs 21.1 (Canyonlands) X-cite-me: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCJEskcxsoQg==?= X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6C59 EC08 5B23 6490 44D0 7CD3 DA40 219F 7114 8553 X-PGP-Public-Key: http://user.shikoku.ne.jp/~nin/pgp/public-key.txt X-URL: http://user.shikoku.ne.jp/~nin/index.html Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, "Jordan K. Hubbard" in Wed, 17 May 2000 01:28:25 -0700 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.1 schedule Message-ID: <27072.958552105@localhost> jkh> > Will FreeBSD 4.1 be released on schedule? jkh> > If so, does someone tell me when it will be? jkh> jkh> Yes, it will be released on July 15th. I thought that it is the time of release of FreeBSD 3.5-RELEASE soon, but will not 3.5-RELEASE be released ? Thank you. --- * This message is a thing by output of automatic translation. * * Therefore it will be for there to be a lot of funny parts. * * Please approve it. * Ninomiya(family name) Hideyuki(fast name) @ ehime japan mailto:nin@shikoku.ne.jp PGP-Fingerprint:6C59 EC08 5B23 6490 44D0 7CD3 DA40 219F 7114 8553 PGP-Public-Key: http://user.shikoku.ne.jp/~nin/pgp/public-key.txt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 4: 7:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ajax.e-net.com.br (ajax.e-net.com.br [200.194.249.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E649E37BBEB for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 04:07:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bigshot@e-net.com.br) Received: from e-net.com.br (kajima.e-net.com.br [200.194.249.35]) by ajax.e-net.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25249 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 08:11:41 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <200005171111.IAA25249@ajax.e-net.com.br> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 08:07:03 -0300 From: bigshot To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.51 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 4:58:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rhenium.btinternet.com (rhenium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A621537B774; Wed, 17 May 2000 04:58:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from [62.6.101.160] (helo=parish.my.domain) by protactinium with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12rnEG-0004pP-00; Tue, 16 May 2000 20:42:09 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01259; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:51:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 19:51:40 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Gary Roberts Cc: chad@DCFinc.com, emulation@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 Message-ID: <20000516195140.I233@parish> References: <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200005160032.KAA09256@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200005160032.KAA09256@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au>; from garyr@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au on Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:32:49AM +1000 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:32:49AM +1000, Gary Roberts wrote: > Chad R. Larson writes :- > > > As I recall, David Gilbert wrote: > > > I must say that I'm dissapointed that I can't run it. > > > > This is older hat, but I've had WordPerfect 8 running on a > > 2.2.8-STABLE system under Linux emulation since Dec, 1998. > > > > Has anyone tried to evaluate pros and cons of the various office > > suites? > > > > 1) Applixware - native > > 2) StarOffice - linux > > 3) WordPerfect - linux > > 4) anything - Wine > > 5) ??? > > I notice that people on this thread have been cc'ing to `emulators' and > `stable'. There doesn't seem to be an emulators list - it is `emulation' > or `freebsd-emulation' according to Majordomo. This thread probably > belongs on emulation so the folks there have been missing it so far. > > To answer Chad's question from my perspective, to capture more of the > desktop rather than server market, FreeBSD needs a workable `office' > solution. I was hoping staroffice might be that. I have had my secretary > evaluating it with a view to weaning her off W98/Office97. Here is a > summary of results. > > So as not to create too much of an initial shock, we installed the W98 > version of staroffice about 4-6 months ago and tried to use it as much > as possible. She reported that the suite was pretty much capable of all > the things she needed and was fairly easy to get used to, BUT:- > > 1. It was slow, noticeably slower than she was used to. > 2. It caused W98 to crash more frequently when she was trying to `push'. > 3. She wasn't able to produce documents that our clients could open > correctly under Office97. Since we send a lot of documents as email > attachments, this became the killer and so we haven't moved to > `phase 2' which was to install it under a decent OS which should have > cured the crashes. > > At the moment I've basically given up - she uses W98 and I use FreeBSD. > I would be very interested in other peoples experiences. Perhaps > `emulation' might be the better forum to do this. > I try to use it at work (under NT) but it can't handle "forms" in Word docs properly, which is a problem. OTOH, it does a better job of exporting Expel spreadsheets to HTML than Expel 97 does :) > Cheers, > -- > Gary Roberts (garyr@wcs.uq.edu.au) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- ...and on the eighth day God created UNIX ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 4:59:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rhenium.btinternet.com (rhenium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DDCA37BB7B; Wed, 17 May 2000 04:59:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from [62.6.101.160] (helo=parish.my.domain) by neodymium with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12rnGG-0000lV-00; Tue, 16 May 2000 20:44:13 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01259; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:51:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 19:51:40 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Gary Roberts Cc: chad@DCFinc.com, emulation@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 Message-ID: <20000516195140.I233@parish> References: <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200005160032.KAA09256@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200005160032.KAA09256@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au>; from garyr@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au on Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:32:49AM +1000 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:32:49AM +1000, Gary Roberts wrote: > Chad R. Larson writes :- > > > As I recall, David Gilbert wrote: > > > I must say that I'm dissapointed that I can't run it. > > > > This is older hat, but I've had WordPerfect 8 running on a > > 2.2.8-STABLE system under Linux emulation since Dec, 1998. > > > > Has anyone tried to evaluate pros and cons of the various office > > suites? > > > > 1) Applixware - native > > 2) StarOffice - linux > > 3) WordPerfect - linux > > 4) anything - Wine > > 5) ??? > > I notice that people on this thread have been cc'ing to `emulators' and > `stable'. There doesn't seem to be an emulators list - it is `emulation' > or `freebsd-emulation' according to Majordomo. This thread probably > belongs on emulation so the folks there have been missing it so far. > > To answer Chad's question from my perspective, to capture more of the > desktop rather than server market, FreeBSD needs a workable `office' > solution. I was hoping staroffice might be that. I have had my secretary > evaluating it with a view to weaning her off W98/Office97. Here is a > summary of results. > > So as not to create too much of an initial shock, we installed the W98 > version of staroffice about 4-6 months ago and tried to use it as much > as possible. She reported that the suite was pretty much capable of all > the things she needed and was fairly easy to get used to, BUT:- > > 1. It was slow, noticeably slower than she was used to. > 2. It caused W98 to crash more frequently when she was trying to `push'. > 3. She wasn't able to produce documents that our clients could open > correctly under Office97. Since we send a lot of documents as email > attachments, this became the killer and so we haven't moved to > `phase 2' which was to install it under a decent OS which should have > cured the crashes. > > At the moment I've basically given up - she uses W98 and I use FreeBSD. > I would be very interested in other peoples experiences. Perhaps > `emulation' might be the better forum to do this. > I try to use it at work (under NT) but it can't handle "forms" in Word docs properly, which is a problem. OTOH, it does a better job of exporting Expel spreadsheets to HTML than Expel 97 does :) > Cheers, > -- > Gary Roberts (garyr@wcs.uq.edu.au) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- ...and on the eighth day God created UNIX ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 5:13:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp (shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp [133.30.50.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804BC37BC25; Wed, 17 May 2000 05:13:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from takawata@shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp) Received: from shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA13737; Wed, 17 May 2000 21:13:45 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from takawata@shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp) Message-Id: <200005171213.VAA13737@shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp> To: micheloo@xs4all.nl (Michel Oosterhof) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ESS Solo (1394) support in 4.0-stable In-reply-to: Your message of "16 May 2000 22:46:43 +0200." <8fsc3j$2tl$1@xs3.xs4all.nl> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 21:13:45 +0900 From: Takanori Watanabe Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <8fsc3j$2tl$1@xs3.xs4all.nl>, Michel Oosterhof wrote: >Does anyone know if this card is supported? I know some other ESS models are. >My card is an on-board pci card, i added the pcm device in my kernel, but it >is not recognized (I just get the unknown pci device found at...etc). > >Should I try with the vox driver and try to see if i can get there with >SB compatibility? > >Regards, > I wrote a patch to newpcm that recognize ESS Solo and get ESS solo mixer work.(PCM will *not* work) http://www.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp/~takawata/d/resource/essdiff2 This also contains KXLC101 PCMCIA Soundcard support.(Can produce noise.) Takanori Watanabe Public Key Key fingerprint = 2C 51 E2 78 2C E1 C5 2D 0F F1 20 A3 11 3A 62 2A To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 5:29:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pooh.elsevier.nl (pooh.elsevier.nl [145.36.13.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D8E37BC06; Wed, 17 May 2000 05:29:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@pooh.elsevier.nl) Received: (from steve@localhost) by pooh.elsevier.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00749; Wed, 17 May 2000 13:35:50 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from steve) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200005171213.VAA13737@shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 13:35:49 +0100 (IST) From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Takanori Watanabe Subject: Re: ESS Solo (1394) support in 4.0-stable Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, (Michel Oosterhof) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 17-May-00 Takanori Watanabe wrote: > I wrote a patch to newpcm that recognize ESS Solo and get > ESS solo mixer work.(PCM will *not* work) Do you have a variation of this patch for -stable ? It seems the ess.c split is only in -current at the moment. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 5:35:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hydrant.intranova.net (hydrant.intranova.net [209.201.95.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54CF837B5ED for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 05:35:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oogali@intranova.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hydrant.intranova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67345E1227; Wed, 17 May 2000 08:35:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 08:35:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Omachonu Ogali To: tsikora@powerusersbbs.com Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: kvm_open: proc size mismatch In-Reply-To: <39223511.84CEDD6D@home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 17 May 2000, Ted Sikora wrote: > 4.0-STABLE I just found this after experiencing some system slowdowns > under OpenMotif's mwm. > kvm_open: proc size mismatch (42968 total, 1044 chunks) > top: Out of memory. Recompile libkvm (/usr/src/lib/libkvm), install it, and then that dreaded message should go away... > -- > Ted Sikora > Jtl Development Group > tsikora@powerusersbbs.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Omachonu Ogali oogali@intranova.net | | Intranova Networking Group http://tribune.intranova.net | | PGP Key ID: 0xBFE60839 | | PGP Fingerprint: C8 51 14 FD 2A 87 53 D1 E3 AA 12 12 01 93 BD 34 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 5:42:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isabase.philol.msu.ru (isabase.philol.msu.ru [195.208.217.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B6937BC1F for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grg@isabase.philol.msu.ru) Received: (from grg@localhost) by isabase.philol.msu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA08537; Wed, 17 May 2000 16:42:23 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from grg) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 16:42:23 +0400 From: Grigoriy Strokin To: "Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.0-STABLE and sound Message-ID: <20000517164223.A8413@isabase.philol.msu.ru> References: <39214A3B.C73230E4@thehousleys.net> <20000516152656.B8258@pir.net> <20000517062541.A47633@sulaco.mcn.htwm.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de on Wed, May 17, 2000 at 08:29:02AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 08:29:02AM +0200, Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor] wrote: > > Hmm, I'm also not entirely happy with 4.0 sound: I can't seem to be > able to record at a decent sampling rate. I have two boxes, one with: > > pcm0: port 0xd000-0xd03f irq 5 at device 11.0 on pci0 > > (This is a Soundblaster PCI16) > > and > > sbc0: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5 drq > 1,5 on isa0 > sbc0: setting card to irq 5, drq 1, 5 > pcm0: on sbc0 > > Recording via Sox and DAP always produces sound that sound no > different at 8000 Hz. I had exactly the same problem with SB16 Vibra on 3.4-STABLE. In hope that things changed in 4.x, I upgraded to 4.0-STABLE, now I am completely unable to record sound, even at 8KHz, see my send-pr http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=17695 for details. -- === Grigoriy Strokin, Lomonosov University (MGU), Moscow === === contact info: http://isabase.philol.msu.ru/~grg/ === To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 5:43:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp (shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp [133.30.50.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF7037BC3A; Wed, 17 May 2000 05:43:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from takawata@shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp) Received: from shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA13970; Wed, 17 May 2000 21:43:11 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from takawata@shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp) Message-Id: <200005171243.VAA13970@shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp> To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, micheloo@xs4all.nl (Michel Oosterhof) Subject: Re: ESS Solo (1394) support in 4.0-stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 May 2000 13:35:49 +0100." Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 21:43:11 +0900 From: Takanori Watanabe Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , "Steve O'Hara-Smith" wrote: > >On 17-May-00 Takanori Watanabe wrote: >> I wrote a patch to newpcm that recognize ESS Solo and get >> ESS solo mixer work.(PCM will *not* work) > > Do you have a variation of this patch for -stable ? It seems the ess.c >split is only in -current at the moment. Sorry,there is only for -current now. Takanori Watanabe Public Key Key fingerprint = 2C 51 E2 78 2C E1 C5 2D 0F F1 20 A3 11 3A 62 2A To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 6:21:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bsf.alcatel.fr (laposte.bsf.alcatel.fr [193.104.128.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC1237BB19 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 06:21:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sr@sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr) Received: from mail (sikkim.sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr [155.132.20.1]) by bsf.alcatel.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03681 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 15:28:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from piano by mail (8.8.8+Sun/ABS1.4) id PAA20029; Wed, 17 May 2000 15:20:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from charles by piano (8.8.8+Sun/ABS1.5) id PAA27547; Wed, 17 May 2000 15:20:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr by charles (8.8.8+Sun/ABS1.5) id PAA12906; Wed, 17 May 2000 15:20:00 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <39229C7E.EA3847AC@sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 15:19:58 +0200 From: Sebastien ROCHE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dwight Tuinstra Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: occasional reboots References: <3921A3EE.E4464CA3@clarkson.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had this kind of problem. The solution was to increase the CAS latency from 2 to 3, and to go back to a not-overclocked cpu. Seb Dwight Tuinstra wrote: > Bosko Milekic wrote: > > > > On Tue, 16 May 2000, Dwight Tuinstra wrote: > > > > > Pardon the "me too", but ... me too. With high frequency, > > > I get a spontaneous reboot when trying to "make buildworld" > > > after a fresh install of 4.0-RELEASE. Subsequent buildworlds > > > dump core on either signal 10 or signal 11. A plain "make" > > > will sometimes succeed, sometimes coredump with sig 10 or 11. > > > The coredumps seem to happen at random locations in the build. > > > > Sounds like hardware trouble. > > > > Key words: random, SIGBUS > > I was afraid (but half expecting) someone would say that. > > Does anyone have any suggestions about figuring out the cause? > > Any suggestions on what (Award) BIOS options to set for > maximum stability? > > Is it possible/probable that one of the option cards is to > blame? (Zoom telephonics IDE modem and ATI Rage II Pro Turbo > in one machine; de0 NIC and ATI Rage IIC in the other.) > > Could it be caused by having a swap file too large? > > Hmmm. come to think of it, the single successful build- > world I've done came after I disconnected the (ATAPI) > CD-ROM on my network-connected machine at work. I'll try > disconnecting the CD-ROM on the home machine tonight and > see what happens (may be 3-5 days before I can report back; > I'll be out of action for a while). > > Hopefully I'll soon have a different mobo/CPU combo to > try it on as well. > > Any other suggestions appreciated. > > --Dwight Tuinstra > tuinstra@clarkson.edu > tuinstra@northnet.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 6:45:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jasper.heartland.ab.ca (jasper.heartland.ab.ca [207.107.228.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1274737B562; Wed, 17 May 2000 06:45:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkwiebe@hagenhomes.com) Received: from hagenhomes.com (dyn107.heartland.ab.ca [207.107.228.107]) by jasper.heartland.ab.ca (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id HAA28114; Wed, 17 May 2000 07:08:15 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3922A1B3.368FC0AA@hagenhomes.com> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 07:42:11 -0600 From: Darren Wiebe X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Ovens Cc: Gary Roberts , chad@DCFinc.com, emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 References: <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200005160032.KAA09256@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au> <20000516195140.I233@parish> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Ovens wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:32:49AM +1000, Gary Roberts wrote: > > Chad R. Larson writes :- > > > > > As I recall, David Gilbert wrote: > > > > I must say that I'm dissapointed that I can't run it. > > > > > > This is older hat, but I've had WordPerfect 8 running on a > > > 2.2.8-STABLE system under Linux emulation since Dec, 1998. > > > > > > Has anyone tried to evaluate pros and cons of the various office > > > suites? > > > > > > 1) Applixware - native > > > 2) StarOffice - linux > > > 3) WordPerfect - linux > > > 4) anything - Wine > > > 5) ??? > > > > I notice that people on this thread have been cc'ing to `emulators' and > > `stable'. There doesn't seem to be an emulators list - it is `emulation' > > or `freebsd-emulation' according to Majordomo. This thread probably > > belongs on emulation so the folks there have been missing it so far. > > > > To answer Chad's question from my perspective, to capture more of the > > desktop rather than server market, FreeBSD needs a workable `office' > > solution. I was hoping staroffice might be that. I have had my secretary > > evaluating it with a view to weaning her off W98/Office97. Here is a > > summary of results. > > > > So as not to create too much of an initial shock, we installed the W98 > > version of staroffice about 4-6 months ago and tried to use it as much > > as possible. She reported that the suite was pretty much capable of all > > the things she needed and was fairly easy to get used to, BUT:- > > > > 1. It was slow, noticeably slower than she was used to. > > 2. It caused W98 to crash more frequently when she was trying to `push'. > > 3. She wasn't able to produce documents that our clients could open > > correctly under Office97. Since we send a lot of documents as email > > attachments, this became the killer and so we haven't moved to > > `phase 2' which was to install it under a decent OS which should have > > cured the crashes. Some of this will hopefully be taken care of after the source code is released in June. Darren Wiebe dkwiebe@hagenhomes.com > > > > > At the moment I've basically given up - she uses W98 and I use FreeBSD. > > I would be very interested in other peoples experiences. Perhaps > > `emulation' might be the better forum to do this. > > > > I try to use it at work (under NT) but it can't handle "forms" in Word > docs properly, which is a problem. OTOH, it does a better job of > exporting Expel spreadsheets to HTML than Expel 97 does :) > > > Cheers, > > -- > > Gary Roberts (garyr@wcs.uq.edu.au) > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > ...and on the eighth day God created UNIX > ________________________________________________________________ > FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org > My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ > mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 7: 9:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CFC37B520 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 07:09:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [204.138.57.194]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A1C2137FDD for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA30559; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:09:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14626.43024.598602.764046@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 10:09:20 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Sourceforge doesn't "fetch" X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was just reinstalling the Mesa3D port and found that while netscape would happily download from sourceforge, fetch just hangs talking to their server. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 7:16: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lunatic.oneinsane.net (lunatic.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD6E437BA57 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 07:15:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net) Received: by lunatic.oneinsane.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 615B25DB7; Wed, 17 May 2000 07:15:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 07:15:56 -0700 From: Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Sound issues Message-ID: <20000517071556.A39590@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Reply-To: Ron Rosson Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD lunatic.oneinsane.net 4.0-STABLE X-Moon: The Moon is Waning Gibbous (100% of Full) X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net X-PGP-KEY: http://www.oneinsane.net/~insane/insane2-pgp5i.txt X-Uptime: 7:05AM up 6 days, 23:03, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.01, 0.02 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I trashed my laptop to point where I had to reinstall 4.0 on it. I cvsupped to STABLE as of May 15 and all went well. I am using the same kernel configuration file as before. So the only change is that it is running a more recent STABLE. Now the issue: When setting the mixer to anything other than 100 for the volume the volume will fall back to 0 on its own. If it is set to 100 it stays. Since the make world I have had to either MUTE the sound due to pure static coming when I tried playing sound or reboot when I wanted to listen to one of my mp3's Here is what I have in my kernel configuration file: # Sound Card ## This Works but spits out a bunch of unknowns options PNPBIOS device pcm0 Here is the dmesg output for the sound card: unknown9: at port 0x800-0x807 on isa0 sbc0: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x388-0x38b,0x330-0x331 irq 5 drq 1,5 on isa0 pcm0: on sbc0 unknown10: at port 0x201 on isa0 Anyone have any idea what happened. Before I reinstalled I think the date of the last 4.0-STABLE was over a month old. TIA -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was /dev/null and *void() ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ For this problem, we'll have to call in our crack team of trained solipsists. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 7:39:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pooh.elsevier.nl (pooh.elsevier.nl [145.36.13.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835FC37BB3D; Wed, 17 May 2000 07:39:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@pooh.elsevier.nl) Received: (from steve@localhost) by pooh.elsevier.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA16245; Wed, 17 May 2000 15:44:55 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from steve) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200005171243.VAA13970@shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 15:44:52 +0100 (IST) From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Takanori Watanabe Subject: Re: ESS Solo (1394) support in 4.0-stable Cc: (Michel Oosterhof) , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 17-May-00 Takanori Watanabe wrote: > In message , "Steve O'Hara-Smith" > wrote: >> >>On 17-May-00 Takanori Watanabe wrote: >>> I wrote a patch to newpcm that recognize ESS Solo and get >>> ESS solo mixer work.(PCM will *not* work) >> >> Do you have a variation of this patch for -stable ? It seems the >> ess.c >>split is only in -current at the moment. > > Sorry,there is only for -current now. It seems I spoke to soon. The ess.c split has been MFC'd. Patch applied cleanly to an up to date -stable. Building world now (just the kernel was a bad idea as usual :-)). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 7:57:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F87F37BC47 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 07:57:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6111E89A; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:57:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA59949; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:57:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14626.45916.600074.906028@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 10:57:32 -0400 (EDT) To: Michel Talon Cc: stable Subject: Re: shorter boot time? In-Reply-To: <20000517095751.A453@lpthe.jussieu.fr> References: <20000516173854.A9898@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <007301bfbf74$53bd9c30$411415d1@haus> <14625.44940.974136.577012@onceler.kcilink.com> <20000517095751.A453@lpthe.jussieu.fr> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "MT" == Michel Talon writes: MT> I have a machine with SCSI disk, but IDE Cdrom, so i cannot remove MT> the ata driver. Well, it pauses for a very long time probing IDE disks. MT> I have not found any way to reduce this delay. Under 3.4, there was no such MT> problem. Just remove the devices that don't exist. That is, if your CDRom is disk0 on second controller, remove first controller and the disk1 device on the second controller. Then it only looks for the one disk on the one controller. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 8:24:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from priv-edtnes03-hme0.telusplanet.net (edtnes03.telus.net [199.185.220.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84A237BC41 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 08:24:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from d_rfast@telus.net) Received: from alpha ([216.232.50.146]) by priv-edtnes03-hme0.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.11 201-229-116-111) with SMTP id <20000517152417.UXTW656.priv-edtnes03-hme0.telusplanet.net@alpha> for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:24:17 -0600 Reply-To: From: "Donald and Rosalyn Fast" To: Subject: FTP install problem Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 08:23:13 -0700 Message-ID: <000201bfc013$d1121cc0$9232e8d8@bc.hsia.telus.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Having read relevant parts (and several extra sections) of the Handbook, FAQ, install notes and Complete FreeBSD (2nd ed), I still seem to be missing something. QUESTIONS: 1a) what is the correct string to have in "VERSION" in (Setup) options? 1b) which FTP servers should work (and use default account of FTP?)? 2) Is it correct to type "faster.bc.hsia.telus.net" as machine name? 3) For a MSDOS install, where in directory structure do "ports" and "X" go? (c:\freebsd\ports does not work) DETAILS 1) I downloaded and created the two boot floppies (from 4.0-20000430-STABLE). Rebooted and started the install process, OPTIONS - DHCP to yes (As I am using Telus ADSL in Vancouver, BC, Canada) - version to install was "4.0-20000430-STABLE", also tried "" and "none" When i get to choose the ftp site, none of them seem to work with a message of the form "unable to get access to specified version" Between the different version strings and different FTP servers, I managed to get part of the system downloaded, but it could not download correctly (or find) all of the parts ( x, ports, ...) 2) Another portion of the install I am not sure if it is correct has to do with DHCP configuration. Setup detects my network card (Realtek ) and IP config prompts for machine information. The gateway and IP are correct for my machine name, i tab over and then back (this fills in bc.hsia.telus.net) and add faster (so now this field reads: faster.bc.hsia.telus.net) Is this correct? 3) I tried to download (using internet explorer under win98) the required files to c:\FreeBSD. This worked for the base system, but install could not find ports and X. I have them placed in c:\freebsd\ports and c:\FreeBSD\xf86336. Should they be in a different directory? or what options do i set in install so that it can find them? Thanks in advance, Donald Fast Vancouver, BC, Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 8:40: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF7937B6F4 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 08:39:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michel@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.10.0/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id e4HFdl963742 ; Wed, 17 May 2000 17:39:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr ([134.157.10.102]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id RAA04661 ; Wed, 17 May 2000 17:39:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from michel@localhost) by rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA01132; Wed, 17 May 2000 17:39:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from michel) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 17:39:47 +0200 From: Michel Talon To: stable Cc: khera@kciLink.com Subject: Re: shorter boot time? Message-ID: <20000517173946.A1117@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mail-Followup-To: stable , khera@kciLink.com References: <20000516173854.A9898@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <007301bfbf74$53bd9c30$411415d1@haus> <14625.44940.974136.577012@onceler.kcilink.com> <20000517095751.A453@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <14626.45916.600074.906028@onceler.kcilink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <14626.45916.600074.906028@onceler.kcilink.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 10:57:32AM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: > >>>>> "MT" == Michel Talon writes: > > MT> I have a machine with SCSI disk, but IDE Cdrom, so i cannot remove > MT> the ata driver. Well, it pauses for a very long time probing IDE disks. > MT> I have not found any way to reduce this delay. Under 3.4, there was no such > MT> problem. > > Just remove the devices that don't exist. That is, if your CDRom is > disk0 on second controller, remove first controller and the disk1 > device on the second controller. Then it only looks for the one disk > on the one controller. > Of course i have done that, to absolutely no avail. This was the trick i used with the wcd driver in FreeBSD 3.3 and which worked then. There was also an ide_delay option or a think like that, but it seems there is no more any way to reduce the probe time. On my laptop which has an ide disk, the probe with ata is immediate and the boot very fast. -- Michel Talon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 8:47:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pan.salford.ac.uk (pan.salford.ac.uk [146.87.255.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3601737BC5F for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 08:47:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from M.S.Powell@salford.ac.uk) Received: (qmail 521 invoked by alias); 17 May 2000 15:47:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 515 invoked from network); 17 May 2000 15:47:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO plato.salford.ac.uk) (146.87.255.76) by pan.salford.ac.uk with SMTP; 17 May 2000 15:47:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 47070 invoked by uid 141); 17 May 2000 15:47:35 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 May 2000 15:47:35 -0000 Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 16:47:35 +0100 (BST) From: Mark Powell Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: MegaRAID compatible memory (was Re: HPDA/DAC960PL errors ) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Any ideas on when the 1600 will be supported? I hate to pester such an > altruist, but the 1600 seems attractive due to the U160 > support. Additionally the use of a DIMM for on-board memory rather than a > single sided SIMM. Our suppliers have been having trouble getting the > SIMMs for our current DPT SmartRAID IV controllers. As an aside, anyone know what memory is compatible with the 1400 controllers. I know AMI provide a list, but that stuff is difficult to get hold of. All the 64MB 72pin SIMMs they recommend are EDO. Anyone know whether they have to be just parity or ECC. Is there any difference? As long as they are 9bits wide? (I never have known the difference between memory advertised as ECC and parity :) Cheers. Mark Powell - UNIX System Administrator - Clifford Whitworth Building A.I.S., University of Salford, Salford, Manchester, UK. Tel: +44 161 295 5936 Fax: +44 161 295 5888 www.pgp.com for PGP key M.S.Powell@salfrd.ac.uk (spell salford correctly to reply to me) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 8:59:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (sol.cc.u-szeged.hu [160.114.8.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F0537B5AC for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 08:59:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (8.9.3+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id SAA07708; Wed, 17 May 2000 18:00:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 12s6Ef-0000np-00 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 17:59:49 +0200 Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 17:59:49 +0200 From: Szilveszter Adam To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FTP install problem Message-ID: <20000517175949.C1051@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <000201bfc013$d1121cc0$9232e8d8@bc.hsia.telus.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <000201bfc013$d1121cc0$9232e8d8@bc.hsia.telus.net>; from d_rfast@telus.net on Wed, May 17, 2000 at 08:23:13AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! Although I do not claim to be an expert, I will try to answer your questions... > QUESTIONS: > 1a) what is the correct string to have in "VERSION" in (Setup) options? It is "4.0-20000430-STABLE" in your case. Be sure to set it in the options menu. > 1b) which FTP servers should work (and use default account of FTP?)? All listed servers work (and have default account) but not all of them have the snapshots available. Try http://www.itworks.com.au/~gavin/FBSDsites.php3 for a somewhat up-to-date listing of what is available where. For example ftp4.tw.freebsd.org has it, although probably you can also find it closer to you, eg at releng4.freebsd.org... > 2) Is it correct to type "faster.bc.hsia.telus.net" as machine name? It is OK if you type the name (the part till first dot) in the Hostname field and all others to the domainname field. The installer will take care of the rest. > 3) For a MSDOS install, where in directory structure do "ports" and "X" go? > (c:\freebsd\ports does not work) Oooops I don't know that, sorry. But if you manage to do an install from FTP, you will not need it, either. Good luck! Regards: Szilveszter ADAM Szeged University Szeged Hungary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 9:12:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C5037B9A2 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:12:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@privatelabs.com) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (root@misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA15795; Wed, 17 May 2000 11:11:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from privatelabs.com (mi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA83069; Wed, 17 May 2000 12:12:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@privatelabs.com) From: mi@privatelabs.com Message-Id: <200005171612.MAA83069@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 12:11:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: siag anyone (Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000) To: "Brandon D. Valentine" Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 16 May, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: = On Tue, 16 May 2000 mi@privatelabs.com wrote: = = >Siag as in /usr/ports/math/siag ? = > = > -mi = = Very cool. As a Scheme hacker I may have to check that out later. = Anyone have any justification as to why that's under ports/math though? Since it is (was?) primarily a spreadsheet program, I put it next to the ss, xspread, wingz, abs. By the way, what's wrong with Wingz? They have a fairly good looking spradsheet program. Its Linux binary ran fine for me under the emulation. I think, http://www.wingz.com/ is worth watching... -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 10:27:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD2637BAE3 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:27:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28547; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:30:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Ninomiya Hideyuki Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, FreeBSD stable ML Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5 schedule ?? (was Re: FreeBSD 4.1 schedule) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 May 2000 18:15:34 +0900." <20000517.181534.59647591.nin@smtp.shikoku.ne.jp> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 10:30:19 -0700 Message-ID: <28544.958584619@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I thought that it is the time of release of FreeBSD 3.5-RELEASE soon, > but will not 3.5-RELEASE be released ? FreeBSD 3.5 will also be released. The two branches have nothing to do with one another and hence are on independant schedules. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 10:29:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (adsl-63-202-176-114.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.176.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEAB637B600 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:29:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06913; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:30:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200005171730.KAA06913@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Mark Powell Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MegaRAID compatible memory (was Re: HPDA/DAC960PL errors ) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 May 2000 16:47:35 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 10:30:24 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Any ideas on when the 1600 will be supported? I hate to pester such an > > altruist, but the 1600 seems attractive due to the U160 > > support. Additionally the use of a DIMM for on-board memory rather than a > > single sided SIMM. Our suppliers have been having trouble getting the > > SIMMs for our current DPT SmartRAID IV controllers. I'm sorry, I don't recall seeing this question the first time around; the short answer is that the 1600 will be supported shortly after someone gives/lends me one to do the work. I have the necessary information, just no controller to test with. > As an aside, anyone know what memory is compatible with the 1400 > controllers. I know AMI provide a list, but that stuff is difficult to get > hold of. All the 64MB 72pin SIMMs they recommend are EDO. Anyone know > whether they have to be just parity or ECC. Is there any difference? As > long as they are 9bits wide? (I never have known the difference between > memory advertised as ECC and parity :) With byte-wide memory, you need two extra bits for ECC rather than just one for parity. 72-pin SIMMs are actually 32 bits wide; some controllers are happy with parity memory (36 bits), others want byte-ECC memory (eg. Mylex AcceleRAID) which is 40 bits wide and incredibly expensive. I *think* the 1400 will be happy with just plain parity memory. If in doubt, buy from a supplier with an exchange plan. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 13:18:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E10C37BCEE for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 13:18:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@pc0640.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <115213>; Thu, 18 May 2000 06:18:29 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: Flag for NTP slew only? In-reply-to: <9760.958147629@brown.pfcs.com>; from Harlan.Stenn@pfcs.com on Sat, May 13, 2000 at 02:10:49AM +1000 To: Harlan Stenn Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <00May18.061829est.115213@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <9760.958147629@brown.pfcs.com> Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 06:18:28 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 02:10:49AM +1000, Harlan Stenn wrote: >I believe ntpdate will not be around for much longer I'm intrigued by this comment. The [x]ntp documentation has traditionally listed two major uses for ntpdate: 1) "ntpdate -b" early in the boot process to get the system clock almost right - avoiding xntpd's fairly slow lock-in time and ensuring that there's no need for a time step once the system is running. ntpd may synchronise much faster than xntpd did, but the system will still be well into multi-user mode before it realises that the clock needs to be stepped by a (possible significant) amount. 2) Regular use of ntpdate (eg from cron) to keep the system clock fairly close to real time without the overheads of permanently running nptd. Whilst this is less of an issue for modern systems, people may still have reasons for not wanting to run ntpd. How will these functions be handled in the absence of ntpdate? Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 13:18:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315AD37BD2A for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 13:18:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@pc0640.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <115207>; Thu, 18 May 2000 06:18:28 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: curious about memory report usingfreebsd v3.3-release In-reply-to: <20000513201513.A39032@phoenix.welearn.com.au>; from jon@welearn.com.au on Sat, May 13, 2000 at 08:15:51PM +1000 To: Jonathan Michaels Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <00May18.061828est.115207@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <20000513201513.A39032@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 06:18:25 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 08:15:51PM +1000, Jonathan Michaels wrote: >my question is why does the freebsd installation bootstrap >diskette report my (home built -- from quality, new parts on a >supermicro motherboard p6sne) pentium pro's systm memory as >being only 639 kbyte .. shouldn't it be 640 kbyte ?? PC BIOSes normally reserve 1KB of low-RAM for their own purposes. FreeBSD 2.x ignored this and (AFAIK) just used all the memory. FreeBSD 3.x and later leaves the BIOS RAM alone so that the kernel can safely use BIOS functions - primarily in the loader, but also to determine total RAM size and for APM. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 13:18:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E5F37BD3C for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 13:18:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@pc0640.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <115203>; Thu, 18 May 2000 06:18:27 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: CVS Commits (was: Re: ** HEADS UP ** /dev/[u]random filechanges.) In-reply-to: <005401bfbafb$dbfa6100$020aa8c0@aims.private>; from chris@aims.com.au on Thu, May 11, 2000 at 01:50:45PM +1000 To: stable@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <00May18.061827est.115203@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <200005110146.e4B1khL05225@cwsys.cwsent.com> <005401bfbafb$dbfa6100$020aa8c0@aims.private> Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 06:18:23 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 01:50:45PM +1000, Chris Knight wrote: > Aegis (http://www.canb.auug.org.au/~millerp/aegis/aegis.html) >is a revision control system that does atomic commits. Aegis has both pros and cons. Amongst its advantages, it can stop commits breaking the world by enforcing the requirement that all commits must compile and pass a full regression test. By default, it also enforces a code review step (even if it's just the author with his hat at a different angle) - this would give the Project the option of creating a larger pool of developers who can develop code but haven't earned the right to commit without someone else looking over their code. Finally, since it relies on an external source control system, we could presumably continue to use CVS (or RCS) and therefore not lose the repository history. Amongst the disadvantages are the enforcing of regression tests - a "make buildworld" is quite expensive when all you've done it to correct the spelling in a comment. Also, whilst Aegis supports multiple developers, I'm not sure that it have the same level of support for distributed development - I don't believe it has any equivalent to the CVS client/server. Finally, at least in the configurations I've used it, it needs/assumes a specific set of makefile targets - which would mean substantial re-work of our Makefiles. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 13:31:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0880F37BCDB for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 13:31:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 95ECB1C5C; Wed, 17 May 2000 16:31:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 16:31:43 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: Peter Jeremy Cc: Harlan Stenn , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Flag for NTP slew only? Message-ID: <20000517163143.M86725@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <9760.958147629@brown.pfcs.com> <00May18.061829est.115213@border.alcanet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <00May18.061829est.115213@border.alcanet.com.au>; from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au on Thu, May 18, 2000 at 06:18:28AM +1000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 06:18:28AM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > 2) Regular use of ntpdate (eg from cron) to keep the system clock > fairly close to real time without the overheads of permanently > running nptd. > > Whilst this is less of an issue for modern systems, people may > still have reasons for not wanting to run ntpd. We have reasons for only running ntpdate, and not keeping ntpd running. (speaking as the administrator of EFNet's irc.lsl.com) -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect / Computer Horizons Corp - CVM e-mail: billf@chc-chimes.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 14: 2: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from node11a94.a2000.nl (node11a94.a2000.nl [24.132.26.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9959537B651 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 14:01:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ronald@klop.yi.org) Received: (qmail 4520 invoked from network); 17 May 2000 21:01:56 -0000 Received: from dlanor.evertsen.nl (ronald@10.0.0.3) by node11a94.a2000.nl with SMTP; 17 May 2000 21:01:56 -0000 Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 23:01:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Ronald Klop To: Michel Talon Cc: stable , khera@kciLink.com Subject: Re: shorter boot time? In-Reply-To: <20000517173946.A1117@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 17 May 2000, Michel Talon wrote: > On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 10:57:32AM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: > > >>>>> "MT" == Michel Talon writes: > > > > MT> I have a machine with SCSI disk, but IDE Cdrom, so i cannot remove > > MT> the ata driver. Well, it pauses for a very long time probing IDE disks. > > MT> I have not found any way to reduce this delay. Under 3.4, there was no such > > MT> problem. > > Did you try to boot with verbose on? -- Ronald Klop http://klop.yi.org/ http://www.FreeBSD.org/ http://klop.yi.org/~ronald/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 14:33:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zipcode.corp.home.net (zipcode.corp.home.net [24.0.26.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1361137B8B0 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 14:33:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from manek@ecst.csuchico.edu) Received: from after (shiva-user20.corp.home.net [24.0.8.150]) by zipcode.corp.home.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA05943; Wed, 17 May 2000 14:27:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "Sameer R. Manek" To: "Bill Fumerola" , "Peter Jeremy" , "Harlan Stenn" , Subject: RE: Flag for NTP slew only? Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 14:26:25 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20000517163143.M86725@jade.chc-chimes.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Bill Fumerola > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 1:32 PM > On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 06:18:28AM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > > > 2) Regular use of ntpdate (eg from cron) to keep the system clock > > fairly close to real time without the overheads of permanently > > running nptd. > > > > Whilst this is less of an issue for modern systems, people may > > still have reasons for not wanting to run ntpd. > > We have reasons for only running ntpdate, and not keeping ntpd running. > > (speaking as the administrator of EFNet's irc.lsl.com) > ntpdate is also useful for people on dialups, 3/4 of the day xntpd would be out of sync anyways, or needlessly calling the isp just to send a few ntp packets. I just manually run ntpdate whenever i remember to, my clock drifts about 10 seconds a month, which is close enough for me. Sameer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 14:38:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F9C37BCE3 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 14:38:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.14]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.1) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 14:38:06 -0700 Message-ID: <3923113A.8D37A144@3-cities.com> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 14:38:02 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Strange Termcap behavior on 4.0-Stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When I telnet to two of my systems and su to root. The terminal setup for ansi or cons25 goes away. For example, if I do a "/usr/src/release/sysinstall/rtermcap ansi" as root, nothing appears. If I exit and do it on my original login, I see ansi|any ansi terminal with pessimistic assumptions:co#80:li#24:cl=50\E[;H\E[2J: bs:am:cm=\E[%i%d;%dH:nd=\E[C:up=\E[A:ce=\E[K:ho=\E[H:pt: This doesn't happen on my system with a buildworld of 10 May 2000. Something has happened and it really messes up trying to edit from a telnet session as root. The setup for xterm's still works but I can't telnet in from a Window's system. This also messes up building sysinstall. The generated code for the ansi and 5 or 6 cons.... is totally bogus and kills the compile. -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 15:21: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.kpi.com.au (www.kpi.com.au [203.39.132.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B2837BDAC for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 15:20:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shevlandj@kpi.com.au) Received: from kpi.com.au (www.kpi.com.au [203.39.132.210]) by www.kpi.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14445; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:20:44 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from shevlandj@kpi.com.au) Message-ID: <39231D26.10747BA9@kpi.com.au> Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 08:28:54 +1000 From: Joe Shevland Organization: KPI Logistics Pty Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Gilbert Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sourceforge doesn't "fetch" References: <14626.43024.598602.764046@trooper.velocet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've had a lot of trouble with fetch lately (3.4-STABLE). I keep getting 'Empty response from server...' (from memory) and other error messages. However, the -b option appears to fix almost all these issues. This has only really started happening in the last couple of weeks/months of watching stable as far as I can tell. Regards, Joe David Gilbert wrote: > > I was just reinstalling the Mesa3D port and found that while netscape > would happily download from sourceforge, fetch just hangs talking to > their server. > > Dave. > > -- > ============================================================================ > |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | > |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | > |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | > =========================================================GLO================ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Joe Shevland Principal Consultant KPI Logistics Pty Ltd http://www.kpi.com.au mailto:shevlandj@kpi.com.au To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 15:23: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inetmail.de (mail.inetmail.de [62.96.3.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F6537B75B for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 15:22:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joschi@room.de) Received: from escom.room.de (line17-205.inetservice.de [62.96.17.205]) by mail.inetmail.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA24269 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 00:22:25 +0200 Received: from didi.room.de (didi.room.de [10.10.10.2]) by escom.room.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF3083A86E for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 00:32:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: by didi.room.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CD2AC1FBB58; Thu, 18 May 2000 00:23:39 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 00:23:39 +0200 From: Jochen Solbrig To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: error in source code while updating to 4.0 Message-ID: <20000518002339.A363@didi.room.de> Reply-To: jsolbrig@web.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! While updating from 3.3 to 4.0 stable I noticed the following errors: (actually, at first I only read the make world tutorial but not /usr/src/UPDATING. I ran into trouble and finally had to restore the whole system from backup...) ok, here the errors: first, make buildworld stopped and reported a parse error in something/mtree/excludes.c. I looked into this file and found the following "C"-code: [snip] static const char rcsid[] = "$FreeBSD: src/usr.sbin/mtree/excludes.c,v 1.1.2.2 2000/05/16 16:45:34 wollman Exp $"; "$FreeBSD: src/usr.sbin/mtree/excludes.c,v 1.1.2.2 2000/05/16 16:45:34 wollman Exp $"; [snip] I deleted the second line and restarted with "make buildworld -DNOCLEAN". Later I had some trouble with MAKEDEV and some other minor problems. The make buildworld process stopped at an error with install-info which complained about an unrecognized option. This was funny because I installed install-info from the gnu texinfo sources before, according to /usr/src/UPDATING. In the mailinglist archives I found the hint that I should copy install-info from /usr/obj/something to /usr/bin. This was successful and I completed the update finally. Bye, Jochen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 15:55: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (mail.dohboys.com [208.26.253.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8B737BA5B for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 15:54:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.14]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 17 May 2000 15:54:50 -0700 Message-ID: <39232335.29B7B494@3-cities.com> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 15:54:45 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gene Raytsin Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make release broken? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gene Raytsin wrote: > > Hi, > Does any of you guys has problem with doing make release? > for me it brakes on make beforeinstall of libcrypto I haven't tried to make release; however, sysinstall will not build and that could kill a make release. Kent > > --gene > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 17:12:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ct.home.com [24.2.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2993437BCCF for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 17:12:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsikora@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.2.168.186]) by mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with ESMTP id <20000518001214.IGTL18096.mail.rdc1.ct.home.com@home.com>; Wed, 17 May 2000 17:12:14 -0700 Message-ID: <3923353A.15CD2A62@home.com> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 20:11:38 -0400 From: Ted Sikora Reply-To: tsikora@powerusersbbs.com Organization: Jtl Development X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en-US,en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Omachonu Ogali Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: kvm_open: proc size mismatch References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Omachonu Ogali wrote: > > On Wed, 17 May 2000, Ted Sikora wrote: > > > 4.0-STABLE I just found this after experiencing some system slowdowns > > under OpenMotif's mwm. > > kvm_open: proc size mismatch (42968 total, 1044 chunks) > > top: Out of memory. > > Recompile libkvm (/usr/src/lib/libkvm), install it, and then that dreaded > message should go away... > That was it. ps had a similar message afterwards so I did a make build/installworld and all is well again. -- Ted Sikora Jtl Development Group tsikora@powerusersbbs.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 17:19:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail6.fw-sj.sony.com (mail6.fw-sj.sony.com [198.93.2.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A69637BBC1 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 17:19:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rbowen@kiku.slt.sel.sony.com) Received: from mail2.sjc.in.sel.sony.com (mail2.sjc.in.sel.sony.com [43.134.1.111]) by mail6.fw-sj.sony.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA15886; Thu, 18 May 2000 00:19:36 GMT Received: by mail2.sjc.in.sel.sony.com id AAA00831; Thu, 18 May 2000 00:19:35 GMT Received: from slt.sel.Sony.com (orchid [43.134.133.24]) by tulip.slt.sel.sony.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA03194; Wed, 17 May 2000 17:19:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <39233716.DD4020F0@slt.sel.Sony.com> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 17:19:35 -0700 From: Robert Bowen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ESS Solo (1394) support in 4.0-stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Not only does Linux have support for it, but so do NetBSD AND OpenBSD. I never thought I'd see the day when FreeBSD had less x86 hardware support than OpenBSD! I asked about porting it over, but no-one had any tips. I am in the middle of finals right now, but maybe I will give it a stab over the summer if someone better doesn't get to it first (please, please, please!). Theoretically it should be easy to do, right??? Ted Sikora wrote: Vivek Khera wrote: > > >>>>> "VK" == Vivek Khera writes: > > VK> m/b) to run is using the OSS drivers from 4front. They do not support > VK> FBSD 4.0 though, which is most annoying. > > One more note: later linux kernels have beta drivers for this card, so > perhaps some kind soul may port that over... I have no idea how to do > it. It does work excellent under Linux. I have a Linux box with an ASuS mb with the onboard ESS Solo1 audio. The driver is part of the standard 2.2 kernel. Has been since 2.1 I think. -- Ted Sikora Jtl Development Group tsikora@powerusersbbs.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 22: 7:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rhenium.btinternet.com (rhenium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 017FE37BD1E for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 22:07:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from [62.7.33.41] (helo=parish.my.domain) by carbon with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12s94u-0002es-00; Wed, 17 May 2000 20:01:56 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01309; Wed, 17 May 2000 20:01:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 20:01:29 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Will Andrews Cc: Szilveszter Adam , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 Message-ID: <20000517200129.F232@parish> References: <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200005160032.KAA09256@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au> <20000516084052.A12672@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> <20000516195819.J233@parish> <20000517034754.D89671@argon.blackdawn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000517034754.D89671@argon.blackdawn.com>; from andrews@technologist.com on Wed, May 17, 2000 at 03:47:54AM -0400 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 03:47:54AM -0400, Will Andrews wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 07:58:19PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > Doesn't W95 hang after 47.9(?) days anyway ;-) > > I have a Windows box across the lab here, while running Windows 95 (one > of the older releases) it often attained 200-250 day uptimes. In stark > contrast, under Windows 98, it usually lasts between 30 to 60 days. > Must have had the fix applied. I was referring to the (documented in the M$ knowledgebase) bug caused by a milli-second counter being an unsigned int and so rolled over back to 0 after 2**32 milli-secs, or 49.71 days. > Of course, I sure like my FreeBSD's box (which takes a lot bigger > beating than that secretarial win98 machine)'s uptime: > > 3:46AM up 101 days, 21:45, 15 users, load averages: 1.22, 1.18, 1.25 > > Take care. > > -- > Will Andrews > GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- > ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ > G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? -- ...and on the eighth day God created UNIX ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 22:14:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28BB037B685 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 22:14:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id WAA00040; Wed, 17 May 2000 22:14:36 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda00038; Wed May 17 22:14:19 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id WAA07499; Wed, 17 May 2000 22:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdPv7497; Wed May 17 22:13:56 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.10.1/8.9.1) id e4I5DuP62924; Wed, 17 May 2000 22:13:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200005180513.e4I5DuP62924@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdT62662; Wed May 17 22:13:06 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-Sender: cy To: Kent Stewart Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Strange Termcap behavior on 4.0-Stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 May 2000 14:38:02 PDT." <3923113A.8D37A144@3-cities.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 22:13:05 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <3923113A.8D37A144@3-cities.com>, Kent Stewart writes: > When I telnet to two of my systems and su to root. The terminal setup > for ansi or cons25 goes away. For example, if I do a > "/usr/src/release/sysinstall/rtermcap ansi" as root, nothing appears. > If I exit and do it on my original login, I see > > ansi|any ansi terminal with pessimistic > assumptions:co#80:li#24:cl=50\E[;H\E[2J: > bs:am:cm=\E[%i%d;%dH:nd=\E[C:up=\E[A:ce=\E[K:ho=\E[H:pt: > > This doesn't happen on my system with a buildworld of 10 May 2000. For the systems that you have the problem on, what date were they CVSuped or built? > Something has happened and it really messes up trying to edit from a > telnet session as root. The setup for xterm's still works but I can't > telnet in from a Window's system. > > This also messes up building sysinstall. The generated code for the > ansi and 5 or 6 cons.... is totally bogus and kills the compile. What does tset - -S display? Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 23:23:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jason.argos.org (a1-3b058.neo.rr.com [24.93.181.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D6B37BC52 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 23:23:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@argos.org) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by jason.argos.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA00938; Thu, 18 May 2000 02:09:59 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 02:09:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Nowlin To: Mark Ovens Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, adoyle@viewsnet.com Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 In-Reply-To: <20000517200129.F232@parish> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Of course, I sure like my FreeBSD's box (which takes a lot bigger > > beating than that secretarial win98 machine)'s uptime: > > > > 3:46AM up 101 days, 21:45, 15 users, load averages: 1.22, 1.18, 1.25 I'm waiting until I can beat my record -- a Linux box w/uptime of 425 days until I had to shut it down to replace the batteries in the building's UPS. The thing was running on Linux kernel 1.2.8 until last January... I predict that some of my FBSD machines will probably hit that mark in a year or so... (That Linux box has been retired -- it's primary job no longer applies...) --mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 23:51:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rhenium.btinternet.com (rhenium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F7637BC96 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 23:51:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from [213.1.198.134] (helo=parish.my.domain) by carbon with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12sAVd-0006m4-00; Wed, 17 May 2000 21:33:37 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA02475; Wed, 17 May 2000 21:33:34 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 21:33:34 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Michel Talon Cc: stable , khera@kciLink.com Subject: Re: shorter boot time? Message-ID: <20000517213334.J232@parish> References: <20000516173854.A9898@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <007301bfbf74$53bd9c30$411415d1@haus> <14625.44940.974136.577012@onceler.kcilink.com> <20000517095751.A453@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <14626.45916.600074.906028@onceler.kcilink.com> <20000517173946.A1117@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000517173946.A1117@lpthe.jussieu.fr>; from michel@lpthe.jussieu.fr on Wed, May 17, 2000 at 05:39:47PM +0200 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 05:39:47PM +0200, Michel Talon wrote: > On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 10:57:32AM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: > > >>>>> "MT" == Michel Talon writes: > > > > MT> I have a machine with SCSI disk, but IDE Cdrom, so i cannot remove > > MT> the ata driver. Well, it pauses for a very long time probing IDE disks. > > MT> I have not found any way to reduce this delay. Under 3.4, there was no such > > MT> problem. > > > > Just remove the devices that don't exist. That is, if your CDRom is > > disk0 on second controller, remove first controller and the disk1 > > device on the second controller. Then it only looks for the one disk > > on the one controller. > > > > Of course i have done that, to absolutely no avail. This was the > trick i used with the wcd driver in FreeBSD 3.3 and which worked > then. Can't you just comment out the line device atadisk # ATA disk drives and leave the device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives line together with either ata0 or ata1? > There was also an ide_delay option or a think like that, but > it seems there is no more any way to reduce the probe time. On my > laptop which has an ide disk, the probe with ata is immediate and > the boot very fast. > > > -- > Michel Talon > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- ...and on the eighth day God created UNIX ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 23:55:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B2F37BC96 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 23:55:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id XAA00448; Wed, 17 May 2000 23:47:39 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda00444; Wed May 17 23:47:29 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id XAA07982; Wed, 17 May 2000 23:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdNG7980; Wed May 17 23:46:59 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.10.1/8.9.1) id e4I6kwE00114; Wed, 17 May 2000 23:46:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200005180646.e4I6kwE00114@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdk99660; Wed May 17 23:46:14 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-Sender: cy To: Mike Nowlin Cc: Mark Ovens , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, adoyle@viewsnet.com Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 May 2000 02:09:59 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 23:46:13 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Mike Nowl in writes: > > > > Of course, I sure like my FreeBSD's box (which takes a lot bigger > > > beating than that secretarial win98 machine)'s uptime: > > > > > > 3:46AM up 101 days, 21:45, 15 users, load averages: 1.22, 1.18, 1.25 > > I'm waiting until I can beat my record -- a Linux box w/uptime of 425 days > until I had to shut it down to replace the batteries in the building's > UPS. The thing was running on Linux kernel 1.2.8 until last January... > > I predict that some of my FBSD machines will probably hit that mark in a > year or so... (That Linux box has been retired -- it's primary job no > longer applies...) Had a Digital OSF/1 2.0 system with an uptime of 627 days before we retired it in January. Still waiting for the boss to buy the team lunch. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 17 23:58:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FBA37BC73 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 23:58:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.52]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 17 May 2000 23:58:05 -0700 Message-ID: <39239474.F3BC619B@3-cities.com> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 23:57:56 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Strange Termcap behavior on 4.0-Stable References: <200005180513.e4I5DuP62924@cwsys.cwsent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > In message <3923113A.8D37A144@3-cities.com>, Kent Stewart writes: > > When I telnet to two of my systems and su to root. The terminal setup > > for ansi or cons25 goes away. For example, if I do a > > "/usr/src/release/sysinstall/rtermcap ansi" as root, nothing appears. > > If I exit and do it on my original login, I see > > > > ansi|any ansi terminal with pessimistic > > assumptions:co#80:li#24:cl=50\E[;H\E[2J: > > bs:am:cm=\E[%i%d;%dH:nd=\E[C:up=\E[A:ce=\E[K:ho=\E[H:pt: > > > > This doesn't happen on my system with a buildworld of 10 May 2000. > > For the systems that you have the problem on, what date were they > CVSuped or built? This one doesn't work. It was cvsup'ed just before the build world. The world and kernel are from the same cvsup. Ruby was broken before this cvsup. I also cleaned /usr/obj (it had been linked before and I unlinked it) before I did the last set of builds. $ uname -a FreeBSD ruby.kbs.com 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #2: Tue May 16 17:38:23 PDT 2 000 root@ruby.kbs.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/RUBY i386 These work but have been left alone because of the problem. $ uname -a FreeBSD jade.kbs.com 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #11: Wed May 10 13:06:20 PDT 2000 root@jade.kbs.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/JADE i386 opal# uname -a FreeBSD opal.kbs.com 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #2: Sat May 13 02:47:42 PDT 2 000 root@opal.kbs.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/OPAL i386 > > > Something has happened and it really messes up trying to edit from a > > telnet session as root. The setup for xterm's still works but I can't > > telnet in from a Window's system. > > > > This also messes up building sysinstall. The generated code for the > > ansi and 5 or 6 cons.... is totally bogus and kills the compile. > > What does tset - -S display? On Ruby as root ruby# tset - -S ansi ansi ruby# On ruby as user $ tset - -S ansi ansi ansi:co#80:li#24:cl=50\E[;H\E[2J:bs:am:cm=\E[%i%d;%dH:nd=\E[C:up=\E[A:ce=\E [K:ho=\E[H:pt:$ on jade as root jade# tset - -S ansi ansi ansi:co#80:li#24:cl=50\E[;H\E[2J:bs:am:cm=\E[%i%d;%dH:nd=\E[C:up=\E[A:ce=\E [K:ho=\E[H:pt:jade# On Jade as user $ tset - -S ansi ansi ansi:co#80:li#24:cl=50\E[;H\E[2J:bs:am:cm=\E[%i%d;%dH:nd=\E[C:up=\E[A:ce=\E [K:ho=\E[H:pt:$ I thought Opal was broken but it looks like I could have been double telneted to ruby when I was having problems. When I first saw this, I thought I had a corrupted termcap.db but then I found I could edit as a user, just not as root. They are running different shells. My user shell is pdksh and I have left root as csh. It is almost like I have a permission problem somewhere. All three of these machines are conversions to 4.0 with clean installs. Ruby, which has the termcap problem, only runs FreeBSD 4.0-Stable. I can make sysinstall on the two systems but not on ruby. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 0:33:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D439F37B5B3 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 00:33:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michel@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.10.0/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id e4I7XI931068 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 09:33:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr ([134.157.10.102]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id JAA14692 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 09:33:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from michel@localhost) by rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00419 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 18 May 2000 09:33:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from michel) Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 09:33:18 +0200 From: Michel Talon To: stable Subject: Re: shorter boot time? Message-ID: <20000518093318.B388@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mail-Followup-To: stable References: <20000516173854.A9898@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <007301bfbf74$53bd9c30$411415d1@haus> <14625.44940.974136.577012@onceler.kcilink.com> <20000517095751.A453@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <14626.45916.600074.906028@onceler.kcilink.com> <20000517173946.A1117@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <20000517213334.J232@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <20000517213334.J232@parish> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Of course i have done that, to absolutely no avail. This was the > > trick i used with the wcd driver in FreeBSD 3.3 and which worked > > then. > > Can't you just comment out the line > > device atadisk # ATA disk drives > > and leave the > > device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives > > line together with either ata0 or ata1? > Here is my config #ATA and ATAPI devices #device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 device ata device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives #options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering #options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices with either first or second line, there is a long hang at boot. You can see that there are no unused drivers. -- Michel Talon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 1: 2:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C04B37BC74 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 01:02:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id BAA00890; Thu, 18 May 2000 01:01:01 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda00886; Thu May 18 01:00:45 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id BAA08622; Thu, 18 May 2000 01:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdTz8487; Thu May 18 01:00:00 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.10.1/8.9.1) id e4I7xxW30810; Thu, 18 May 2000 00:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200005180759.e4I7xxW30810@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpds30650; Thu May 18 00:59:27 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-Sender: cy To: Kent Stewart Cc: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Strange Termcap behavior on 4.0-Stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 May 2000 23:57:56 PDT." <39239474.F3BC619B@3-cities.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 00:59:27 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <39239474.F3BC619B@3-cities.com>, Kent Stewart writes: > > > Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > > > In message <3923113A.8D37A144@3-cities.com>, Kent Stewart writes: > > > When I telnet to two of my systems and su to root. The terminal setup > > > for ansi or cons25 goes away. For example, if I do a > > > "/usr/src/release/sysinstall/rtermcap ansi" as root, nothing appears. > > > If I exit and do it on my original login, I see > > > > > > ansi|any ansi terminal with pessimistic > > > assumptions:co#80:li#24:cl=50\E[;H\E[2J: > > > bs:am:cm=\E[%i%d;%dH:nd=\E[C:up=\E[A:ce=\E[K:ho=\E[H:pt: > > > > > > This doesn't happen on my system with a buildworld of 10 May 2000. > > > > For the systems that you have the problem on, what date were they > > CVSuped or built? > > This one doesn't work. It was cvsup'ed just before the build world. > The world and kernel are from the same cvsup. Ruby was broken before > this cvsup. I also cleaned /usr/obj (it had been linked before and I > unlinked it) before I did the last set of builds. > > $ uname -a > FreeBSD ruby.kbs.com 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #2: Tue May 16 > 17:38:23 PDT 2 > 000 root@ruby.kbs.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/RUBY i386 > > These work but have been left alone because of the problem. > > $ uname -a > FreeBSD jade.kbs.com 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #11: Wed May 10 > 13:06:20 PDT > 2000 root@jade.kbs.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/JADE i386 > > opal# uname -a > FreeBSD opal.kbs.com 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #2: Sat May 13 > 02:47:42 PDT 2 > 000 root@opal.kbs.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/OPAL i386 > > > > > > > Something has happened and it really messes up trying to edit from a > > > telnet session as root. The setup for xterm's still works but I can't > > > telnet in from a Window's system. > > > > > > This also messes up building sysinstall. The generated code for the > > > ansi and 5 or 6 cons.... is totally bogus and kills the compile. > > > > What does tset - -S display? > > On Ruby as root > > ruby# tset - -S > ansi > ansi ruby# > > On ruby as user > $ tset - -S > ansi > ansi > ansi:co#80:li#24:cl=50\E[;H\E[2J:bs:am:cm=\E[%i%d;%dH:nd=\E[C:up=\E[A:ce=\E > [K:ho=\E[H:pt:$ > > on jade as root > jade# tset - -S > ansi > ansi > ansi:co#80:li#24:cl=50\E[;H\E[2J:bs:am:cm=\E[%i%d;%dH:nd=\E[C:up=\E[A:ce=\E > [K:ho=\E[H:pt:jade# > > On Jade as user > $ tset - -S > ansi > ansi > ansi:co#80:li#24:cl=50\E[;H\E[2J:bs:am:cm=\E[%i%d;%dH:nd=\E[C:up=\E[A:ce=\E > [K:ho=\E[H:pt:$ > > I thought Opal was broken but it looks like I could have been double > telneted to ruby when I was having problems. When I first saw this, I > thought I had a corrupted termcap.db but then I found I could edit as > a user, just not as root. They are running different shells. My user > shell is pdksh and I have left root as csh. It is almost like I have a > permission problem somewhere. All three of these machines are > conversions to 4.0 with clean installs. Ruby, which has the termcap > problem, only runs FreeBSD 4.0-Stable. > > I can make sysinstall on the two systems but not on ruby. After a cursory look at the commit logs and looking at the stock .cshrc and .login, the only conclusion I can come to is that it must be somewhere in your dot files or in your login.conf. You may want to verify that you didn't corrupt your login.conf file during the upgrade. I'm currently building world as of May 17 @ 04:15 PDT (planned) on a chrooted filesystem (if I, buildworld, or installworld screws up I still have my original system). When it completes I'll boot it and see if I have the same problem. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 1:21:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466FD37B571 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 01:21:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.52]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 18 May 2000 01:21:20 -0700 Message-ID: <3923A7F7.55D20077@3-cities.com> Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 01:21:11 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Strange Termcap behavior on 4.0-Stable References: <200005180759.e4I7xxW30810@cwsys.cwsent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > In message <39239474.F3BC619B@3-cities.com>, Kent Stewart writes: > > > > > > Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > > > > > In message <3923113A.8D37A144@3-cities.com>, Kent Stewart writes: > > > > When I telnet to two of my systems and su to root. The terminal setup > > > > for ansi or cons25 goes away. For example, if I do a > > > > "/usr/src/release/sysinstall/rtermcap ansi" as root, nothing appears. > > > > If I exit and do it on my original login, I see > > > > > > > > ansi|any ansi terminal with pessimistic > > > > assumptions:co#80:li#24:cl=50\E[;H\E[2J: > > > > bs:am:cm=\E[%i%d;%dH:nd=\E[C:up=\E[A:ce=\E[K:ho=\E[H:pt: > > > > > > > > This doesn't happen on my system with a buildworld of 10 May 2000. > > > > > > For the systems that you have the problem on, what date were they > > > CVSuped or built? > > > > This one doesn't work. It was cvsup'ed just before the build world. > > The world and kernel are from the same cvsup. Ruby was broken before > > this cvsup. I also cleaned /usr/obj (it had been linked before and I > > unlinked it) before I did the last set of builds. > > > > $ uname -a > > FreeBSD ruby.kbs.com 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #2: Tue May 16 > > 17:38:23 PDT 2 > > 000 root@ruby.kbs.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/RUBY i386 > > > > These work but have been left alone because of the problem. > > > > $ uname -a > > FreeBSD jade.kbs.com 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #11: Wed May 10 > > 13:06:20 PDT > > 2000 root@jade.kbs.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/JADE i386 > > > > opal# uname -a > > FreeBSD opal.kbs.com 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #2: Sat May 13 > > 02:47:42 PDT 2 > > 000 root@opal.kbs.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/OPAL i386 > > > > > > > > > > > Something has happened and it really messes up trying to edit from a > > > > telnet session as root. The setup for xterm's still works but I can't > > > > telnet in from a Window's system. > > > > > > > > This also messes up building sysinstall. The generated code for the > > > > ansi and 5 or 6 cons.... is totally bogus and kills the compile. > > > > > > What does tset - -S display? > > > > On Ruby as root > > > > ruby# tset - -S > > ansi > > ansi ruby# > > > > On ruby as user > > $ tset - -S > > ansi > > ansi > > ansi:co#80:li#24:cl=50\E[;H\E[2J:bs:am:cm=\E[%i%d;%dH:nd=\E[C:up=\E[A:ce=\E > > [K:ho=\E[H:pt:$ > > > > on jade as root > > jade# tset - -S > > ansi > > ansi > > ansi:co#80:li#24:cl=50\E[;H\E[2J:bs:am:cm=\E[%i%d;%dH:nd=\E[C:up=\E[A:ce=\E > > [K:ho=\E[H:pt:jade# > > > > On Jade as user > > $ tset - -S > > ansi > > ansi > > ansi:co#80:li#24:cl=50\E[;H\E[2J:bs:am:cm=\E[%i%d;%dH:nd=\E[C:up=\E[A:ce=\E > > [K:ho=\E[H:pt:$ > > > > I thought Opal was broken but it looks like I could have been double > > telneted to ruby when I was having problems. When I first saw this, I > > thought I had a corrupted termcap.db but then I found I could edit as > > a user, just not as root. They are running different shells. My user > > shell is pdksh and I have left root as csh. It is almost like I have a > > permission problem somewhere. All three of these machines are > > conversions to 4.0 with clean installs. Ruby, which has the termcap > > problem, only runs FreeBSD 4.0-Stable. > > > > I can make sysinstall on the two systems but not on ruby. > > After a cursory look at the commit logs and looking at the stock .cshrc > and .login, the only conclusion I can come to is that it must be > somewhere in your dot files or in your login.conf. You may want to > verify that you didn't corrupt your login.conf file during the upgrade. I mounted ruby's files systems and did a diff. They are the same on ruby and jade. It was a good call. Ruby had a .terminfo file. I mv'ed it to o.terminfo and I had an ansi terminal back. I could also make sysinstall. Thanks, Kent > > I'm currently building world as of May 17 @ 04:15 PDT (planned) on a > chrooted filesystem (if I, buildworld, or installworld screws up I > still have my original system). When it completes I'll boot it and see > if I have the same problem. > > Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 > Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 > Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca > Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA > Province of BC -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 1:29:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.uvd.chel.su (uvd.chel.su [195.54.2.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A8B37B995 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 01:28:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lw@pd.chel.ru) Received: from isergeya.uvd.chel.su (isergeya.uvd.chel.su [192.168.200.123]) by relay.uvd.chel.su (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468091D0 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 14:27:03 +0600 (YEKST) Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 14:28:34 +0500 From: "Sergey A. Ivanov" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.41) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Reply-To: "Sergey A. Ivanov" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <19603.000518@pd.chel.ru> To: freebsd-stable@freeBSD.ORG Subject: occasional reboots Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------3FC731138D505" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ------------3FC731138D505 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello stable! Some days ago i'm wrote to this list about strange reboots. I'm try collecting some info about reasons and now i have kernel crash dump. Mashine is rebooted after near 2 days uptime. I'm far from being a kernel hacker, but i'm try gdb -k and records log. I'm attached my kernel config and dmesg output. Can anyone help me? I'm like give any info you need. 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You MUST recompile and install a new libstand, otherwise you will get panics in the loader. -- Paul Saab Technical Yahoo paul@mu.org - ps@yahoo-inc.com - ps@freebsd.org Do You .. uhh .. Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 2:11: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF8637BDD4; Thu, 18 May 2000 02:11:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA10766; Thu, 18 May 2000 02:11:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 02:11:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: jsolbrig@web.de Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error in source code while updating to 4.0 In-Reply-To: <20000518002339.A363@didi.room.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 18 May 2000, Jochen Solbrig wrote: > While updating from 3.3 to 4.0 stable I noticed the following errors: > (actually, at first I only read the make world tutorial but not > /usr/src/UPDATING. I ran into trouble and finally had to restore > the whole system from backup...) Updating from 3.X to 4.0-STABLE is not supported - you have to go to 4.0-RELEASE, and then to -STABLE. Having said that, this was temporary tree breakage which is already fixed, although trying to update to 4.0-S still may not work. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 2:29:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nohow.demon.co.uk (puajm2.nottingham.ac.uk [128.243.210.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7184C37BF6F for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 02:29:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noway@nohow.demon.co.uk) Received: from localhost (noway@localhost) by nohow.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05629; Thu, 18 May 2000 10:28:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from noway@nohow.demon.co.uk) Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 10:28:23 +0100 (BST) From: Jose Marques To: Joe Shevland Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sourceforge doesn't "fetch" In-Reply-To: <39231D26.10747BA9@kpi.com.au> Message-ID: X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 18 May 2000, Joe Shevland wrote: > I've had a lot of trouble with fetch lately (3.4-STABLE). I keep > getting 'Empty response from server...' (from memory) and other error > messages. However, the -b option appears to fix almost all these > issues. This has only really started happening in the last couple of > weeks/months of watching stable as far as I can tell. Have you set any HTTP_PROXY environment variables? If not you might want to ask your ISP if they have started using a transparent http proxy. > Regards, > Joe -- Jose Marques To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 3:40:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pan.salford.ac.uk (pan.salford.ac.uk [146.87.255.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0BE7337B524 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 03:40:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from M.S.Powell@salford.ac.uk) Received: (qmail 3288 invoked by alias); 18 May 2000 10:39:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 3282 invoked from network); 18 May 2000 10:39:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO plato.salford.ac.uk) (146.87.255.76) by pan.salford.ac.uk with SMTP; 18 May 2000 10:39:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 89222 invoked by uid 141); 18 May 2000 10:39:43 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 May 2000 10:39:43 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 11:39:43 +0100 (BST) From: Mark Powell To: "Mike C. Muir" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MegaRAID compatible memory (was Re: HPDA/DAC960PL errors ) In-Reply-To: <20000517160601.8061E1F95@mike.dhis.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 17 May 2000, Mike C. Muir wrote: > ECC is capable of correcting the error that is detected, where parity > can simply detect it. 'ECC' Memory uses the available redundant bits > provided by a the parity chips in a way to encode the word into these > available bits, for example: > > 8 bits requires an additional bit for parity, but 5 for ECC > 16 bits requires 2 more for parity, 6 more for ECC > 32 requires 4 more for parity, 7 more for ECC > 64 requires 8 more for parity, 8 more for ECC. > > So manufactures make use of x36 parts to provide 8 redundant bits for > the 64 bits involved, in this case they can make use of ECC, rather > than just parity. Correct me if I'm wrong, so because 72pins SIMMs have a 32bit data path there is no such thing as an ECC SIMM? All the 36 bit wide SIMMS are really just parity, but when two are used together ECC is possible? Thus the MegaRAID 1400 can't be implementing ECC, because they are only using a single SIMM. The only way to do it with a single SIMM would be to have one that is 39 or 40bits wide? Mark Powell - UNIX System Administrator - Clifford Whitworth Building A.I.S., University of Salford, Salford, Manchester, UK. Tel: +44 161 295 5936 Fax: +44 161 295 5888 www.pgp.com for PGP key M.S.Powell@salfrd.ac.uk (spell salford correctly to reply to me) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 4:32:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pooh.elsevier.nl (pooh.elsevier.nl [145.36.13.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F8337BD6E; Thu, 18 May 2000 04:29:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@pooh.elsevier.nl) Received: (from steve@localhost) by pooh.elsevier.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01226; Thu, 18 May 2000 12:12:17 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from steve) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 12:12:17 +0100 (IST) From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Subject: Re: ESS Solo (1394) support in 4.0-stable Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, (Michel Oosterhof) , Takanori Watanabe Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 17-May-00 Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > It seems I spoke to soon. The ess.c split has been MFC'd. Patch > applied > cleanly to an up to date -stable. Building world now (just the kernel was a > bad idea as usual :-)). The patch works fine in -stable on my Compaq Presario. Thank you. Any future expectation of PCM working ?, Anything I can do to help ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 5:29: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp (shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp [133.30.50.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F7237BDA2; Thu, 18 May 2000 05:28:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from takawata@shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp) Received: from shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA19067; Thu, 18 May 2000 21:28:27 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from takawata@shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp) Message-Id: <200005181228.VAA19067@shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp> To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ESS Solo (1394) support in 4.0-stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 May 2000 12:12:17 +0100." Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 21:28:27 +0900 From: Takanori Watanabe Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , "Steve O'Hara-Smith" $B$5$s$$(B $B$o$/(B: >On 17-May-00 Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >> >> It seems I spoke to soon. The ess.c split has been MFC'd. Patch >> applied >> cleanly to an up to date -stable. Building world now (just the kernel was a >> bad idea as usual :-)). > > The patch works fine in -stable on my Compaq Presario. Thank you. > > Any future expectation of PCM working ?, Anything I can do to help ? I try to and It already contains PCI busmastering transfer code,but the code is not working now properly. Takanori Watanabe Public Key Key fingerprint = 2C 51 E2 78 2C E1 C5 2D 0F F1 20 A3 11 3A 62 2A To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 5:34:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from search.sparks.net (search.sparks.net [208.5.188.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E18737BE29 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 05:34:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmiller@search.sparks.net) Received: by search.sparks.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 75DEDDC5E; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by search.sparks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655F4DC5D; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 08:29:04 -0400 (EDT) From: David Miller To: Mike Nowlin Cc: Mark Ovens , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, adoyle@viewsnet.com Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 18 May 2000, Mike Nowlin wrote: > > > > Of course, I sure like my FreeBSD's box (which takes a lot bigger > > > beating than that secretarial win98 machine)'s uptime: > > > > > > 3:46AM up 101 days, 21:45, 15 users, load averages: 1.22, 1.18, 1.25 > > I'm waiting until I can beat my record -- a Linux box w/uptime of 425 days > until I had to shut it down to replace the batteries in the building's > UPS. The thing was running on Linux kernel 1.2.8 until last January... > > I predict that some of my FBSD machines will probably hit that mark in a > year or so... (That Linux box has been retired -- it's primary job no > longer applies...) If we're going to start a senseless game of "mines longer than yours"... search.sparks.net was a 2.2.7 system which was up for 469 days before a disk died due to overheating caused by the PS fan seizing up. If it were a ball bearing fan I'd be pushing 600 days on it now. Cheers --- David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 5:44:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.uvd.chel.su (uvd.chel.su [195.54.2.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4046B37BE02 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 05:43:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lw@pd.chel.ru) Received: from isergeya.uvd.chel.su (isergeya.uvd.chel.su [192.168.200.123]) by relay.uvd.chel.su (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF281DF for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 18:43:40 +0600 (YEKST) Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 14:28:34 +0500 From: "Sergey A. Ivanov" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.41) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Reply-To: "Sergey A. Ivanov" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <19603.000518@pd.chel.ru> To: freebsd-stable@freeBSD.ORG Subject: occasional reboots Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------2FF4BF223CF44" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ------------2FF4BF223CF44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello stable! Some days ago i'm wrote to this list about strange reboots. I'm try collecting some info about reasons and now i have kernel crash dump. Mashine is rebooted after near 2 days uptime. I'm far from being a kernel hacker, but i'm try gdb -k and records log. I'm attached my kernel config and dmesg output. Can anyone help me? I'm like give any info you need. 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Valentine" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Server Farms? In-Reply-To: <391AC056.EC76DB69@thehousleys.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 11 May 2000, James Housley wrote: > "Brandon D. Valentine" wrote: > > RELENG_3: > > > > :0B: > > * ^Sender:.*owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG > > * ^.*(Branch: RELENG_4)|.*(Branch: RELENG_3) > > fbsd-cvs-stable > > And if you only wanted RELENG_3 AND RELENG_4 and wanted to delete the > rest you could do: > > :0B: > * ^Sender:.*owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG > * ^.*(Branch: RELENG_4)|.*(Branch: RELENG_3) > fbsd-cvs-stable Do these recipes actually work for you or were you doing them from memory? If they work, what version of procmail are you running? I'm running v3.13.1 here, and it wouldn't search the body AND the headers unless I specified :0HB:. I had to tinker with it a little while, but her's a copy and paste of what I'm using: :0HB:c * ^Sender:.*owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG * ^.*\(Branch: RELENG_4\) stable-4 :0HB:c * ^Sender:.*owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG * ^.*\(Branch: RELENG_3\) stable-3 The "c" on the end of ":0HB:c" is to carbon copy them into my regular in-box. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 6:11:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 523A237BE59 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 06:11:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: from thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net. [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22302; Thu, 18 May 2000 09:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3923EBEF.85D85DB2@thehousleys.net> Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 09:11:11 -0400 From: James Housley Organization: The Housleys dot Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Miller Cc: "Brandon D. Valentine" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Server Farms? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Miller wrote: > > On Thu, 11 May 2000, James Housley wrote: > > > "Brandon D. Valentine" wrote: > > > RELENG_3: > > > > > > :0B: > > > * ^Sender:.*owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG > > > * ^.*(Branch: RELENG_4)|.*(Branch: RELENG_3) > > > fbsd-cvs-stable > > > > And if you only wanted RELENG_3 AND RELENG_4 and wanted to delete the > > rest you could do: > > > > :0B: > > * ^Sender:.*owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG > > * ^.*(Branch: RELENG_4)|.*(Branch: RELENG_3) > > fbsd-cvs-stable > They didn't work for me, but I did create the following from them. Jim :0 *^Sender:.*owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG { :0 B *^.*(Branch: RELENG_4) /var/mail/housley :0 B *^.*(Branch: RELENG_3) /var/mail/housley :0 /dev/null } -- "Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines" -- Anon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 6:17:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pooh.elsevier.nl (pooh.elsevier.nl [145.36.13.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6451737BE67; Thu, 18 May 2000 06:17:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@pooh.elsevier.nl) Received: (from steve@localhost) by pooh.elsevier.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01375; Thu, 18 May 2000 14:23:22 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from steve) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200005181228.VAA19067@shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp> Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 14:23:22 +0100 (IST) From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Takanori Watanabe Subject: Re: ESS Solo (1394) support in 4.0-stable Cc: stable@freebsd.org, multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 18-May-00 Takanori Watanabe wrote: > In message , "Steve O'Hara-Smith" > I try to and It already contains PCI busmastering transfer code,but > the code is not working now properly. That's what I thought I was seeing in the code. I'll see if I can make any sense out of what's happening. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 6:32:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wugate.wustl.edu (wugate.wustl.edu [128.252.120.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C7F37BEA1 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 06:32:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mackey@pisello.wustl.edu) Received: from pisello.wustl.edu (pisello.wustl.edu [128.252.253.69]) by wugate.wustl.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03374 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:32:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from scrutinizer.wustl.edu by pisello.wustl.edu (8.8.8/1.1.20.8/16May00-0326PM) id IAA0000003112; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:32:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Mackey Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 14:32:30 GMT Message-ID: <20000518.14323000@scrutinizer.wustl.edu> Subject: subscribe To: stable@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; StarOffice/5.1; Linux) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------=_4D48007EFFB808B723E0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --------------=_4D48007EFFB808B723E0 Content-Description: filename="text1.txt" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --------------=_4D48007EFFB808B723E0 Content-Description: filename="text1.html" Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable subscribe



--------------=_4D48007EFFB808B723E0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 7:36:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pooh.elsevier.nl (pooh.elsevier.nl [145.36.13.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB21C37BC87 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 07:35:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@pooh.elsevier.nl) Received: (from steve@localhost) by pooh.elsevier.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01454; Thu, 18 May 2000 15:42:22 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from steve) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <39233716.DD4020F0@slt.sel.Sony.com> Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 15:42:22 +0100 (IST) From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Robert Bowen Subject: Re: ESS Solo (1394) support in 4.0-stable Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 18-May-00 Robert Bowen wrote: > Not only does Linux have support for it, but so do NetBSD AND OpenBSD. I > never thought I'd see the day when FreeBSD had less x86 hardware support > than OpenBSD! I asked about porting it over, but no-one had any tips. > I am in the middle of finals right now, but maybe I will give it a stab > over the summer if someone better doesn't get to it first (please, > please, please!). Theoretically it should be easy to do, right??? It didn't look that easy when I looked at it a couple of months ago, but then I don't understand the newpcm internals or the NetBSD sound internals so it might be easy for someone who actually does understand both of these. Good luck and I will be a willing tester if you do give it a try. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 7:52:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9595637B764 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 07:52:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jochen.Solbrig@urz.uni-heidelberg.de) Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03901 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 16:52:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from aixterm5.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (fk1@aixterm5.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.45]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16324 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 16:52:05 +0200 Received: (from fk1@localhost) by aixterm5.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id QAA59528 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 18 May 2000 16:52:04 +0200 (METDST) Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 16:52:04 +0200 From: Jochen Solbrig To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: error in source code while updating to 4.0 Message-ID: <20000518165203.A31420@aixterm5.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Reply-To: jsolbrig@web.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! While updating from 3.3 to 4.0 stable I noticed the following errors: (actually, at first I only read the make world tutorial but not /usr/src/UPDATING. I ran into trouble and finally had to restore the whole system from backup...) ok, here the errors: first, make buildworld stopped and reported a parse error in something/mtree/excludes.c. I looked into this file and found the following "C"-code: [snip] static const char rcsid[] = "$FreeBSD: src/usr.sbin/mtree/excludes.c,v 1.1.2.2 2000/05/16 16:45:34 wollman Exp $"; "$FreeBSD: src/usr.sbin/mtree/excludes.c,v 1.1.2.2 2000/05/16 16:45:34 wollman Exp $"; [snip] I deleted the second line and restarted with "make buildworld -DNOCLEAN". Later I had some trouble with MAKEDEV and some other minor problems. The make buildworld process stopped at an error with install-info which complained about an unrecognized option. This was funny because I installed install-info from the gnu texinfo sources before, according to /usr/src/UPDATING. In the mailinglist archives I found the hint that I should copy install-info from /usr/obj/something to /usr/bin. This was successful and I completed the update finally. Bye, Jochen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 8: 9:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E7037B98C for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:09:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19299; Thu, 18 May 2000 09:08:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07595; Thu, 18 May 2000 09:07:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 09:07:58 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200005181507.JAA07595@nomad.yogotech.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Mike Nowlin Cc: Mark Ovens , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, adoyle@viewsnet.com Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 In-Reply-To: References: <20000517200129.F232@parish> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Of course, I sure like my FreeBSD's box (which takes a lot bigger > > > beating than that secretarial win98 machine)'s uptime: > > > > > > 3:46AM up 101 days, 21:45, 15 users, load averages: 1.22, 1.18, 1.25 > > I'm waiting until I can beat my record -- a Linux box w/uptime of 425 days > until I had to shut it down to replace the batteries in the building's > UPS. The thing was running on Linux kernel 1.2.8 until last January... There have been boxes that have beat this regularly posted to the list. I think we had a 2-year box that was upgraded from FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 upgraded in the last year that had 2.5 year uptime. Me, I've had that beat by numerous FreeBSD boxes with UPS's on them, but I didn't post because others had soundly thrashed my numbers already. :) Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 8:39:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from search.sparks.net (search.sparks.net [208.5.188.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4110737B77A; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:39:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmiller@search.sparks.net) Received: by search.sparks.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id D81E3DCDD; Thu, 18 May 2000 11:33:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by search.sparks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC233DCDC; Thu, 18 May 2000 11:33:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 11:33:41 -0400 (EDT) From: David Miller To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Server Farms? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 10 May 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > Changes under src/sys/ are the ones which affect the kernel (and those > with "RELENG_[34]" are the only ones which affect [34].x) > > > I'm thinking of the way many commercial OS's release patches, like bsdi. But some of the userland stuff is tied to the kernel changes, so if there are 50 changes in a month and three of them change something in src/sys/somewhere I'm kind of stuck. If I want to install all the latest userland programs I have to relink the kernel and reboot, right? And most of the time, once we're past the .0 releases, there aren't that many kernel changes needed for stability or security which would legitimately require a reboot, so rebooting monthly to just stay up with userland patches isn't really warranted. Not installing patches because they fix problems *I* don't have, and trying to keep all the dependencies coherent sounds unworkable, as does fully understanding what's changing and installing new userland worlds believing the new kernel really isn't necessary. Anyone see any alternatives? Thanks, --- David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 9: 4:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F0237B7CF for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 09:04:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from neil.long@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk) Received: from ratbert.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.14.71]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12sSmK-0005vy-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 18 May 2000 17:04:04 +0100 Received: from neil by ratbert.oucs.ox.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12sSmK-0005bO-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 18 May 2000 17:04:04 +0100 From: "Neil Long" Message-Id: <1000518170404.ZM21536@ratbert.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 17:04:03 +0100 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (5.0.0 30July97) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Thinkpad 600E and 4.0 or stable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Sorry - I did search the list archive but everything seems to stop at Dec 1999?? Anyway, I have a 600E running 3.4 release (kernel config edited to enable sound, 128M memory, USB and apm) and thought I really ought to update to 4.0 (I subscribe so the CDs are really handy to have) and then cvsup up to stable. Has anyone found a problem with the 600E and 4.x or is it pretty easy. I usually use a 3Com 589D but have ne2000 types as well. It works really well so I am also happy to wait till 4.1 Thanks Neil -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dr Neil J Long, Computing Services, University of Oxford 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN, UK Tel:+44 1865 273232 Fax:+44 1865 273275 EMail: Neil.Long@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk PGP: ID 0xE88EF71F OxCERT: oxcert@ox.ac.uk PGP: ID 0x4B11561D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 9:53:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E246237B956 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 09:53:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 12sTXZ-0002ZQ-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 18 May 2000 12:52:53 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 12:52:52 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Server Farms? Message-ID: <20000518125252.A8913@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3923EBEF.85D85DB2@thehousleys.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3923EBEF.85D85DB2@thehousleys.net>; from jim@thehousleys.net on Thu, May 18, 2000 at 09:11:11AM -0400 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG James Housley probably said: > *^.*(Branch: RELENG_4) This is inefficient. You don't need to tie a regexp to the start of a line and then use .* * Branch: RELENG_4 should work. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 11:23:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A573437B967 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 11:23:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA82192; Thu, 18 May 2000 14:21:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 14:21:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Mike Nowlin Cc: Mark Ovens , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, adoyle@viewsnet.com Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 18 May 2000, Mike Nowlin wrote: >I'm waiting until I can beat my record -- a Linux box w/uptime of 425 days >until I had to shut it down to replace the batteries in the building's >UPS. The thing was running on Linux kernel 1.2.8 until last January... > >I predict that some of my FBSD machines will probably hit that mark in a >year or so... (That Linux box has been retired -- it's primary job no >longer applies...) http://www.uptimes.net Brandon D. Valentine -- "You should believe in death, taxes, Larry Ellison's loathing of Bill Gates and Intel's inability to ship a working chipset." - Dr Spinola, The Register, 05/13/2000 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 15:41: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8500337BB14 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 15:40:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robin.breathe@merton.oxford.ac.uk) Received: from sable.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.4]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12sYyP-0001hV-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 18 May 2000 23:40:57 +0100 Received: from mcdhcp108.merton.ox.ac.uk ([129.67.3.108] helo=isometry) by sable.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12sYyP-00015j-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 18 May 2000 23:40:57 +0100 From: "Robin Breathe" To: Subject: make installworld - Errors Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 23:40:48 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4131.1600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been having some major headaches trying to get my system up to 4.0-STABLE... I've synced to the latest /usr/src tree multiple times, and successfully made buildworld. I then follow the instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING to the letter, but it all falls down on "make installworld" with the following error: /*** START OF ERROR ***/ vm/vnode_pager.h -> vm/vnode_pager.ph *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/utils/h2ph. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/utils. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. /*** END OF ERROR ***/ Now, I do not understand why this is happening - I get exactly the same problem in both single- and multi-user modes. The very first time that I tried to do this (on Saturday night) it worked fine - I just did a "make world" and all went as it should, I made a new kernel (using my old config file), rebooted, and all was happy. I then decided that I wanted to install OpenSSL-0.9.5a in order to be able to use openssh-2.1... Following the advice of another user I changed the OpenSSL ports Makefile to install to /usr instead of /usr/local [PREFIX=/usr] Following this OpenSSL broke (though my source said that doing this worked fine on his installation, and I can't see why it wouldn't (though of course it hasn't)). Because OpenSSL is now broken, ssh is totally broken too, leading to extra hassle... Is there any way I can rectify the situation short of a total reinstall? It seems ridiculous that the update is failing at the installworld stage!? What is going on??? Please reply, as I'm short of time, and indeed patience, having been trying to get this to work for the past week :( Yours, Robin B. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 18:36:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com [24.6.21.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BEE137B617 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 18:36:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from conrads@cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA30341; Thu, 18 May 2000 20:35:59 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20000517071556.A39590@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 20:35:59 -0500 (CDT) Organization: @Home Network From: Conrad Sabatier To: "Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson" Subject: RE: Sound issues Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 17-May-00 Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson wrote: > > Here is what I have in my kernel configuration file: > # Sound Card > ## This Works but spits out a bunch of unknowns > options PNPBIOS > device pcm0 > > Here is the dmesg output for the sound card: > > unknown9: at port 0x800-0x807 on isa0 > sbc0: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x388-0x38b,0x330-0x331 irq 5 drq 1,5 > on > isa0 > pcm0: on sbc0 > unknown10: at port 0x201 on isa0 > > > Anyone have any idea what happened. Before I reinstalled I think the > date of the last 4.0-STABLE was over a month old. It looks like your card may be an SB-compatible. Have you tried adding a "sbc0" entry in your config file? -- Conrad Sabatier http://members.home.net/conrads/ ICQ# 1147270 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 19:29:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cr1003333-a.crdva1.bc.home.com (cr1003333-a.crdva1.bc.wave.home.com [24.113.51.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2FB37BE0A for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 19:29:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pangolin@home.com) Received: from cr1003333-a.crdva1.bc.wave.home.com. (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cr1003333-a.crdva1.bc.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA01906 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 19:29:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pangolin@home.com) Message-Id: <200005190229.TAA01906@cr1003333-a.crdva1.bc.home.com> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 19:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: Jonathan Hanna Organization: Pangolin Systems From: Jonathan Hanna To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: ed driver problem Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry for the second posting, perhaps stable is more appropriate then net.... I am running two network cards detected as "ed" on a Micronics M5Pi PCI/ISA motherboard. One is a Lynksys PCI and one is a Realtek ISA PnP. The OS is 4.0-Stable, very recent. The PCI card is assigned ed0. The ISA PnP card is assigned ed2. I have two problems: - the boot hangs This was fixed by adding "return 0;" in if_ed.c at line 905 in ed_get_Linksys(sc) - ed0 says "ed0: device timeout" and does not seem to work I have tried "link0" "link1" and "link2" I am a little suspicious of the IRQ, as it seems to be shared with the video card, though they are both PCI. Any ideas? My demsg follows: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #3: Wed May 17 17:37:40 PDT 2000 root@mgfw.pangolin-systems.com:/home/src/sys/compile/MGFW Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium/P5 (64.48-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x515 Stepping = 5 Features=0x1bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) avail memory = 29057024 (28376K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc03ac000. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 2.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: (vendor=0x1c1c, dev=0x0001) at 3.0 irq 14 ed0: port 0xd000-0xd01f irq 5 at device 12.0 on pci0 ed0: address 00:20:78:13:60:2a, type NE2000 (16 bit) pci0: at 15.0 irq 5 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 fd1: <1200-KB 5.25" drive> on fdc0 drive 1 WARNING: "fd" is usurping "fd"'s cdevsw[] WARNING: "fd" is usurping "fd"'s bmaj ata0 at port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 irq 14 on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppi0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port plip0: on ppbus0 ed2: at port 0x220-0x23f irq 9 on isa0 ed2: address 00:c0:a8:4e:59:62, type NE2000 (16 bit) IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to deny, l ogging limited to 1000 packets/entry by default ad0: 610MB [1240/16/63] at ata0-master using BIOSPIO ad1: 2014MB [4092/16/63] at ata0-slave using BIOSPIO Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a ed0: device timeout ed0: device timeout ed0: device timeout ed0: device timeout ... Jonathan Hanna To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 19:55:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail-03-real.cdsnet.net (mail-03-real.cdsnet.net [204.118.244.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 460C937BA2F for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 19:55:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mrcpu@internetcds.com) Received: (qmail 23473 invoked from network); 19 May 2000 02:55:30 -0000 Received: from schizo.cdsnet.net (204.118.244.32) by mail-03-real.cdsnet.net with SMTP; 19 May 2000 02:55:30 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 19:50:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Jaye Mathisen X-Sender: mrcpu@schizo.cdsnet.net To: hackers@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: NFS problems on 4.0-stable. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG UDP v2 mounts, Netapp Filer. Getting a fair # of: got bad cookie vp 0xd24bf1c0 bp 0xc9090500 got bad cookie vp 0xd24bfda0 bp 0xc906ceb0 on the console, and it seems to lock the machine up for several minutes when it does. Then it comes back to life, and cranks for a while... Not sure where to even start. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 22: 4:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web4701.mail.yahoo.com (web4701.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.105.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 032F937B871 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 22:04:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from unixrock@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000517214233.2426.qmail@web4701.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.24.155.13] by web4701.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 17 May 2000 14:42:33 PDT Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 14:42:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Resin M Subject: subcribe To: stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 22:13:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from evil.2y.net (ztown2-1-100.adsl.one.net [207.78.253.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C7C37B871 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 22:13:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cokane@evil.2y.net) Received: (from cokane@localhost) by evil.2y.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA05656; Fri, 19 May 2000 01:19:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cokane) Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 01:19:00 -0400 From: Coleman Kane To: Conrad Sabatier Cc: "Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound issues Message-ID: <20000519011900.A5636@cokane.yi.org> References: <20000517071556.A39590@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from conrads@home.com on Thu, May 18, 2000 at 09:36:56PM -0400 X-Vim: vim:tw=70:ts=4:sw=4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yeah, the ESS AudioDrives are sb-compatible. Also, try adding a device joy to the config and you can get rid of unknown10. --ck Conrad Sabatier had the audacity to say: > On 17-May-00 Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson wrote: > > > > Here is what I have in my kernel configuration file: > > # Sound Card > > ## This Works but spits out a bunch of unknowns > > options PNPBIOS > > device pcm0 > > > > Here is the dmesg output for the sound card: > > > > unknown9: at port 0x800-0x807 on isa0 > > sbc0: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x388-0x38b,0x330-0x331 irq 5 drq 1,5 > > on > > isa0 > > pcm0: on sbc0 > > unknown10: at port 0x201 on isa0 > > > > > > Anyone have any idea what happened. Before I reinstalled I think the > > date of the last 4.0-STABLE was over a month old. > > It looks like your card may be an SB-compatible. Have you tried adding a > "sbc0" entry in your config file? > > -- > Conrad Sabatier > http://members.home.net/conrads/ > ICQ# 1147270 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Coleman Kane President, UC Free O.S. Users Group - http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 22:46:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF4237BA98; Thu, 18 May 2000 22:46:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA92401; Thu, 18 May 2000 23:46:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA99133; Thu, 18 May 2000 23:45:25 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200005190545.XAA99133@harmony.village.org> To: Jaye Mathisen Subject: Re: NFS problems on 4.0-stable. Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 May 2000 19:50:17 PDT." References: Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 23:45:25 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Jaye Mathisen writes: : got bad cookie vp 0xd24bf1c0 bp 0xc9090500 : got bad cookie vp 0xd24bfda0 bp 0xc906ceb0 Seen these too. Not sure why. Too many other fire to fight. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 22:48:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454EC37B90F for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 22:48:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA92414; Thu, 18 May 2000 23:48:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA99166; Thu, 18 May 2000 23:47:28 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200005190547.XAA99166@harmony.village.org> To: Mike Nowlin Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 Cc: Mark Ovens , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, adoyle@viewsnet.com In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 May 2000 02:09:59 EDT." References: Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 23:47:28 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The longest uptime we've had in the village is on the order of 525 days. We rebooted that machine because the power failed and the UPS' batteries didn't last the 26 hours it was out... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 18 23:17:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wintermute.sparhawk.bc.ca (24.66.169.200.bc.wave.home.com [24.66.169.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154BD37BD36 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 23:17:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sparhawk@sparhawk.bc.ca) Received: from beast.sparhawk.bc.ca (beast.sparhawk.bc.ca [192.168.1.6]) by wintermute.sparhawk.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA70849 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 23:17:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sparhawk@sparhawk.bc.ca) Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000516230514.02bc0170@192.168.1.69> X-Sender: sparhawk@192.168.1.69 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 23:17:00 -0700 To: stable@freebsd.org From: Sparhawk Subject: 4.0 Stable Snapshot for Alpha Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I looked on ftp://releng4.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/ but could not see a precompiled snapshot of 4.0 Stable for the Alpha, Is there one available somewhere else? I have been trying over the last couple weeks to upgrade my box from 4.0 release, but every time Ive tried either the buildworld fails, or the kernel wont compile. I just ran cvsup around 3:00 PDT thurs: make buildworld Breaks at the following: In file included from /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_sigwait.c:36: /usr/obj/src/alpha/usr/include/sys/signalvar.h:42: machine/smp.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib/libc_r *** Error code 1 Sparhawk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 19 2:30:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alijku04.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at (alijku04.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at [140.78.182.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F02637B893 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 02:30:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ferdl@atommuell.oeh.uni-linz.ac.at) Received: from sondermuell.oeh.uni-linz.ac.at (sondermuell.oeh.uni-linz.ac.at [140.78.214.105]) by alijku04.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA137722; Fri, 19 May 2000 11:30:05 +0200 Received: from atommuell.oeh.uni-linz.ac.at (root@atommuell.oeh.uni-linz.ac.at [140.78.214.101]) by sondermuell.oeh.uni-linz.ac.at (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16261; Fri, 19 May 2000 11:29:47 +0200 Received: from localhost (ferdl@localhost) by atommuell.oeh.uni-linz.ac.at (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16383; Fri, 19 May 2000 11:30:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ferdl@atommuell.oeh.uni-linz.ac.at) Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 11:30:02 +0200 (CEST) From: Ferdinand Goldmann To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ESS Solo (1394) support in 4.0-stable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi On Thu, 18 May 2000, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On 18-May-00 Robert Bowen wrote: > > Not only does Linux have support for it, but so do NetBSD AND OpenBSD. I > > never thought I'd see the day when FreeBSD had less x86 hardware support > > than OpenBSD! I asked about porting it over, but no-one had any tips. > > I am in the middle of finals right now, but maybe I will give it a stab > > over the summer if someone better doesn't get to it first (please, > > please, please!). Theoretically it should be easy to do, right??? > > It didn't look that easy when I looked at it a couple of months ago, > but then I don't understand the newpcm internals or the NetBSD sound internals > so it might be easy for someone who actually does understand both of these. > Good luck and I will be a willing tester if you do give it a try. About which version of the ESS Solo-1 are we talking anyway? ESS Solo (1394) ? There seem to be multiple chips called "Solo-1" out there. Yesterday, I installed OpenBSD on a machine with an Asus P2B-N board. This board claims to have an "ESS Solo-1 3D". OpenBSD recognizes this chip as an ES1946 chip: eso0 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 "ESS SOLO-1 AudioDrive" rev 0x01: ES1946 irq 10 audio0 at eso0 opl0 at eso0: model OPL3 midi0 at opl0: The chip seems to work fine with the eso driver (only tried playing an MP3 though). Maybe one could take the know-how of the eso driver to implement this under FreeBSD. Regards, Ferdinand To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 19 4:32:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pan.salford.ac.uk (pan.salford.ac.uk [146.87.255.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2CEBE37B713 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 04:32:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from M.S.Powell@salford.ac.uk) Received: (qmail 6903 invoked by alias); 19 May 2000 11:32:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 6897 invoked from network); 19 May 2000 11:32:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO plato.salford.ac.uk) (146.87.255.76) by pan.salford.ac.uk with SMTP; 19 May 2000 11:32:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 58189 invoked by uid 141); 19 May 2000 11:32:02 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 May 2000 11:32:02 -0000 Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 12:32:02 +0100 (BST) From: Mark Powell To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4.0S fsck doesn't clean the fs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've noticed on all our 4.0S machines, cvsupped as recently as last week, that "fsck -y" cleans the fs, but the kernel still refuses to mount it claiming it is not clean. Hitting reset and letting the machine come back gets the kernel to accept that it is indeed clean. This is Any ideas? Cheers. Mark Powell - UNIX System Administrator - Clifford Whitworth Building A.I.S., University of Salford, Salford, Manchester, UK. Tel: +44 161 295 5936 Fax: +44 161 295 5888 www.pgp.com for PGP key M.S.Powell@salfrd.ac.uk (spell salford correctly to reply to me) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 19 5:57: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wondermutt.net (host75-157.student.udel.edu [128.175.75.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3FEF37B588; Fri, 19 May 2000 05:57:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from papalia@udel.edu) Received: from morgaine.udel.edu (morgaine.1.168.192.IN-ADDR.ARPA [192.168.1.2] (may be forged)) by wondermutt.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12974; Fri, 19 May 2000 08:57:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from papalia@udel.edu) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000519085332.00acec50@mail.udel.edu> X-Sender: papalia@mail.udel.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 09:00:45 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: John Subject: 4.0-Stable Kernel Error? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, Since upgrading to 4.0-Stable, I've been getting a sporadic error message in /var/log/messages that shows up as follows: May 18 12:55:17 merlin /kernel: arp: unknown hardware address format (0x0800) It's showed up 3 times in the past 36 or so hours, but not at any point in time that I can narrow it down to occurring near/after/during any specific system event. Any idea what would be causing the error and how to go about fixing it? Thanks in advance, John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 19 6:20:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969AB37BEF3 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 06:20:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 12smhV-000BBT-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 May 2000 14:20:25 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA85444 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 May 2000 14:20:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 14:20:24 +0100 From: J McKitrick To: stable Subject: ECP parallel port hack Message-ID: <20000519142003.A85370@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am working with someone else on a temporary hack or workaround that will allow ECP parallel port users to use their ZIP drives. I can't take any of the credit for it, but i am helping post the fix. It appears that either ECP mode is not properly reported to the imm driver, or ECP mode is not correctly implemented. Does anyone know if there is ECP support in the ppbus driver as it stands right now? jm -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathon McKitrick -- jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org I am a bomb technician. If you see me running, try to keep up. ------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 19 6:29:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E3EA37BE49 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 06:29:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from synge.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 19 May 2000 14:29:34 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 14:29:32 +0100 From: David Malone To: Mark Powell Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.0S fsck doesn't clean the fs Message-ID: <20000519142932.A14416@synge.maths.tcd.ie> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from M.S.Powell@salford.ac.uk on Fri, May 19, 2000 at 12:32:02PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 12:32:02PM +0100, Mark Powell wrote: > I've noticed on all our 4.0S machines, cvsupped as recently as last week, > that "fsck -y" cleans the fs, but the kernel still refuses to mount it > claiming it is not clean. Hitting reset and letting the machine come back > gets the kernel to accept that it is indeed clean. This is Any ideas? > Cheers. You may still have block devices left in /dev, if you upgraded from an older version of FreeBSD. Check with "find /dev -type b -print" and replace them using /dev/MAKEDEV. David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 19 6:31: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pan.salford.ac.uk (pan.salford.ac.uk [146.87.255.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0FB7137BE75 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 06:31:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from M.S.Powell@salford.ac.uk) Received: (qmail 480 invoked by alias); 19 May 2000 13:31:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 474 invoked from network); 19 May 2000 13:31:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO plato.salford.ac.uk) (146.87.255.76) by pan.salford.ac.uk with SMTP; 19 May 2000 13:31:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 98994 invoked by uid 141); 19 May 2000 13:31:04 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 May 2000 13:31:04 -0000 Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 14:31:04 +0100 (BST) From: Mark Powell To: David Malone Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.0S fsck doesn't clean the fs In-Reply-To: <20000519142932.A14416@synge.maths.tcd.ie> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 19 May 2000, David Malone wrote: > On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 12:32:02PM +0100, Mark Powell wrote: > > I've noticed on all our 4.0S machines, cvsupped as recently as last week, > > that "fsck -y" cleans the fs, but the kernel still refuses to mount it > > claiming it is not clean. Hitting reset and letting the machine come back > > gets the kernel to accept that it is indeed clean. This is Any ideas? > > Cheers. > > You may still have block devices left in /dev, if you upgraded from > an older version of FreeBSD. Check with "find /dev -type b -print" > and replace them using /dev/MAKEDEV. I haven't upgraded. This is was a brand new machine yesterday :) Mark Powell - UNIX System Administrator - Clifford Whitworth Building A.I.S., University of Salford, Salford, Manchester, UK. Tel: +44 161 295 5936 Fax: +44 161 295 5888 www.pgp.com for PGP key M.S.Powell@salfrd.ac.uk (spell salford correctly to reply to me) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 19 8:17:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3CE37BEAA for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 08:17:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 12soWR-000533-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 May 2000 11:17:07 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 11:17:07 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.0-Stable Kernel Error? Message-ID: <20000519111707.A18176@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <4.3.1.2.20000519085332.00acec50@mail.udel.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.2.20000519085332.00acec50@mail.udel.edu>; from papalia@udel.edu on Fri, May 19, 2000 at 09:00:45AM -0400 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John probably said: > May 18 12:55:17 merlin /kernel: arp: unknown hardware address format (0x0800) > It's showed up 3 times in the past 36 or so hours, but not at any point in > time that I can narrow it down to occurring near/after/during any specific > system event. > > Any idea what would be causing the error and how to go about fixing it? My guess would be, apart from a possible bug, that you have a broken network card on your network spewing bad packets. Previous OS version might not have reported them. Try tcpdump to catch them ? Might be able to limit the display to packets not of type ether. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 19 8:27:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from entropy.tmok.com (entropy.tmok.com [204.17.163.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18A0837BF09 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 08:27:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wonko@entropy.tmok.com) Received: (from wonko@localhost) by entropy.tmok.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA71234 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 May 2000 11:32:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Hechinger Message-Id: <200005191532.LAA71234@entropy.tmok.com> Subject: kernel build To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 11:32:29 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: wonko@entropy.tmok.com X-Useless-Header: why? because i can. X-Organization: The Ministry of Knowledge X-Dreams: an OpenWin that is based on current MIT X11 releases X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG with a sup from last night, i get the following: ../../netinet/if_ether.c:459: parse error before `18' ../../netinet/if_ether.c:459: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype ../../netinet/if_ether.c:459: warning: data definition has no type or storage class i got this with another file as well, ip_input.c or something like that, and it boils down to the following line: NETISR_SET(NETISR_ARP, arpintr); i'll try and sup again, but the servers are all full right now. -brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 19 8:55: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from entropy.tmok.com (entropy.tmok.com [204.17.163.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0CE037B52B for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 08:54:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wonko@entropy.tmok.com) Received: (from wonko@localhost) by entropy.tmok.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA71390 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 May 2000 12:00:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Hechinger Message-Id: <200005191600.MAA71390@entropy.tmok.com> Subject: kernel build (update) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 12:00:10 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: wonko@entropy.tmok.com X-Useless-Header: why? because i can. X-Organization: The Ministry of Knowledge X-Dreams: an OpenWin that is based on current MIT X11 releases X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG cvsupping as of 11:30 today (est) gives me a buildable kernel. cheers, -brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 19 9:33: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.100.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0065837C10D; Fri, 19 May 2000 09:32:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA48970; Fri, 19 May 2000 12:32:21 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 12:32:40 -0400 To: Jaye Mathisen , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: NFS problems on 4.0-stable. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 7:50 PM -0700 5/18/00, Jaye Mathisen wrote: >UDP v2 mounts, Netapp Filer. > >Getting a fair # of: >got bad cookie vp 0xd24bf1c0 bp 0xc9090500 >got bad cookie vp 0xd24bfda0 bp 0xc906ceb0 > >on the console, and it seems to lock the machine up for several >minutes when it does. Then it comes back to life, and cranks >for a while... > >Not sure where to even start. More information might help. Is this on an NFS client, or an NFS server? Are BOTH sides (client & server) running freebsd, or is the "other side" (the one not getting these errors) running some other operating system? If you have been running 4.0-stable for some time now, have these errors always existed (say, starting with 4.0-release), or did they just start appearing after some recent sync with 4.0-stable? --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or drosih@rpi.edu Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 19 9:50:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (mail.dohboys.com [208.26.253.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B6237B9AE for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 09:50:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.242.15]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 19 May 2000 09:49:55 -0700 Message-ID: <392570A6.D4B815B@3-cities.com> Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 09:49:42 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wonko@entropy.tmok.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel build (update) References: <200005191600.MAA71390@entropy.tmok.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brian Hechinger wrote: > > cvsupping as of 11:30 today (est) gives me a buildable kernel. I've only had trouble on a few occasions but there was almost always a fix noted on cvs-commit before I finished the make world and build the kernel. Kent > > cheers, > > -brian > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 19 10: 3:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from entropy.tmok.com (entropy.tmok.com [204.17.163.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4B037BF78 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 10:03:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wonko@entropy.tmok.com) Received: (from wonko@localhost) by entropy.tmok.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA71996; Fri, 19 May 2000 13:08:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Hechinger Message-Id: <200005191708.NAA71996@entropy.tmok.com> Subject: Re: kernel build (update) In-Reply-To: <392570A6.D4B815B@3-cities.com> from Kent Stewart at "May 19, 2000 9:49:42 am" To: kstewart@3-cities.com (Kent Stewart) Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 13:08:35 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: wonko@entropy.tmok.com X-Useless-Header: why? because i can. X-Organization: The Ministry of Knowledge X-Dreams: an OpenWin that is based on current MIT X11 releases X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kent Stewart drunkenly mumbled... > > > Brian Hechinger wrote: > > > > cvsupping as of 11:30 today (est) gives me a buildable kernel. > > I've only had trouble on a few occasions but there was almost always a > fix noted on cvs-commit before I finished the make world and build the > kernel. whenever -stable is broken, i can always count on a quick fixup of the cvs tree, but i like to post anyway, just to make sure, it doesn't hurt. -brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 19 12:41:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2083637BF55; Fri, 19 May 2000 12:41:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA40371; Fri, 19 May 2000 12:41:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 12:41:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200005191941.MAA40371@apollo.backplane.com> To: Jaye Mathisen , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS problems on 4.0-stable. References: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :At 7:50 PM -0700 5/18/00, Jaye Mathisen wrote: :>UDP v2 mounts, Netapp Filer. :> :>Getting a fair # of: :>got bad cookie vp 0xd24bf1c0 bp 0xc9090500 :>got bad cookie vp 0xd24bfda0 bp 0xc906ceb0 :> :... :>on the console, and it seems to lock the machine up for several :>minutes when it does. Then it comes back to life, and cranks :>for a while... Hmmm. There is nothing 'wrong' per say with getting a bad cookie during a directory search. When FreeBSD gets a cookie error while scanning a directory, it has to start the scan over again. If you have a very large directory with lots of clients banging on it, a cookie error can result in a long delay. I am guessing that the long blockages are due to getting cookie errors on a very large directory. Why are you using a V2 mount? V3 mounts ought to perform much better, though the cookie error problem you are seeing will probably still be there. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 19 13:21:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morphy.iki.fi (morphy.iki.fi [212.213.80.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 89F7237B6CD for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 13:21:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from morphy@morphy.iki.fi) Received: (qmail 3848 invoked by uid 1000); 17 May 2000 19:21:19 -0000 Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 22:21:18 +0300 From: Mikko Hyvarinen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: occasional reboots Message-ID: <20000517221941.A3737@muhveli.morphy.iki.fi> References: <7589.000516@pd.chel.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0QFb0wBpEddLcDHQ" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <7589.000516@pd.chel.ru>; from lw@pd.chel.ru on Tue, May 16, 2000 at 02:08:50PM +0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --0QFb0wBpEddLcDHQ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="FFoLq8A0u+X9iRU8" --FFoLq8A0u+X9iRU8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 02:08:50PM +0500, Sergey A. Ivanov wrote: > Hello stable! >=20 > My FBSD box sometimes rebooted "for no reason". No any useful > messages in logs. I have FBSD4-S cvsupped, builded and installed this > monday. Hov can i collect enought info about possible reasons? I upgraded my main system to FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE on the night (zone EEST) between sunday and monday, using a fresh cvsup done to an empty /usr/src (and empty /usr/sup) around 01:00. I compiled world from this source tree that night and the resulting install works perfectly on the main system. When I installed from the same buildworld results to another (older) system I experienced a spontaneous reboot a few minutes after first boot using the new install. The system had been running FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE since February with no trouble whatsoever, with uptimes in the order of 30 days at a time. It has been running under rather heavy load sometimes without a hickup. There is nothing in the system logs that would give a clue as to why it rebooted and since the box has no monitor I didn't have a chance to see the possible error messages on the system console. After this one spontaneous reboot nothing out of the ordinary has occurred on the system although it is running a few services and actively swapping. I find this reboot quite mysterious and considering the track record this system has hardware trouble is quite unlikely. A detailed hardware description is available on request in case someone wants to look deeper into this problem. --=20 Mikko Hyvarinen GPG public key available at http://morphy.iki.fi/public_key.txt Finger print: 7FFC 8D4C 9FAD 2C43 7094 BF6E 3868 E93E 86CF 4339 --FFoLq8A0u+X9iRU8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iQIXAwUBOSLwzDho6T6Gz0M5FAEsfQf+MxJ7gRkc4RoFc6Gsj1q7p7n35iv/i8ew jszDI4ulUoI9v5FnZj9E9xTFDuFWch+pjULWElyAWwXu6qlMQajw2VduR/jpx6Jq 0natJ1fNe7Rl6P6UzJSXYWscvH/GoxarDPP++MB5+wh8TDBPB/RafPSuXfwkTB0O q9jeJASqhOLDL7gQjpJMaddsAdBfmNZrjXdLKFpAqz3j9S9jpXGmdrxpiRCx2Bpx r35R4/4lJdEu/pUitx/SoGA48OYsLFeznn2hE9nSrq8/kAsV3dpK/CUBAFJda+ua IzvfDgGCIvg5N0SfVrNRhBLuucJlBf5oTDNFM5oJvijyGEeTUkPHqwgAvn7LuALL QYvbsBhCdZrZcW8D1dkNuUx8IKRNQ8J/UQhuAU3mYvxOOjW4HxwoxBrf4KEvpkT6 kumh06JQTUV2K6y7/UPvM/FzS6V/TPoz9zk+ac3qZwMWOV2mV8EUcVS3SCDGtEH7 sE34YTcuwjUch/qb+L9d9AknAb1Sf8/PN34+6kklQc6l2HZZjoX5fZBhoHKh6C71 IsbfD4fX4cMhkMm78YNWZFLE+0IWGxAg+whN/bxmrNU0VvztOESgGu2OVepII0RZ 8ECXlVNtO4Ew10VA0xbQgyHxD7E4VYNudSVcVxzIT+V5MHuVKEMt/7XlXb0UuPd8 tds/BBR/l4gCBQ== =XHXd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FFoLq8A0u+X9iRU8-- --0QFb0wBpEddLcDHQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iQIXAwUBOSLxKzho6T6Gz0M5FAE+0ggAqJRniR0LU/HgwEZg6ptnL9q4Oos7N/1S 0O02jMklA50XVkiuwVcTiKcoxKGy3VRLay9JOEnl4zOTueEhM2Tp4H6cW0f4tkrm NiCCK96qri1rT4cxWctqE5+XWhbdu8VZcLCyLUfkEsh6EwdtKAl1fINRr0krqs2u oxLqA6ZI2IWmyLh8TT9AqBev07RTou9QLPOK+j4epG1dPb8Z1f4nfavtt76lpLZ1 gdbDoKH8VMVA2FQNjTpj5bV5XpGTOEjlMhxFGMESun1w6xddgcosYUM7wkgpH2H3 /6MITx1QfpHklrlxRjcZxj8CZhhdPkfVXUS3lqEYoR7X8emXZo4JOgf/aJBKCoj/ ukmXgH9l/zS2Ec8zpWsmleAN0YF8Ai5W+330BkCiSPNqV5NFgd5culMKZZzuK+hb 3ZHv1Xr1hgs+wktOJ5/T9c4qvyzUOLJdcnSyxAXZYstRaa7VEekpAEp/sSgxaeIT iS09Osg+yX8SaY0NhAnad9soqbmu9Ff04wHHoRBm6W+B57+Y5kH/wvJRXuRmCL8F v1jvvXFomq2HeJFWWRiY6Y7fEWSQO+U6wWHSBctVWiKPFdP9qZ9ABwSqsYV/0IZS tMwYTjNVMu4M7mhy4yCeaQ/Zhlkikb3Yl4r6IYzw0sbjxHnf/KHPwtqR2x591IEo M7a3a8KC+pI/Og== =gBlj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0QFb0wBpEddLcDHQ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 19 14:26:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mike.dhis.org (usr1-d26.stk.cwnet.com [209.21.20.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B067537B621 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 14:26:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mmuir@es.co.nz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mike.dhis.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B661FB4; Fri, 19 May 2000 14:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 14:27:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mike C. Muir" X-Sender: mmuir@haus.lan To: Sebastien ROCHE Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: occasional reboots Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sebastien ROCHE wrote: > > I had this kind of problem. > The solution was to increase the CAS latency from 2 to 3, and to go back > to a not-overclocked cpu. Strangely, I find FreeBSD to be the most welcoming OS to overclocked cpu's.. My old celeron 300a which would only go so far as 464mhz in Win NT or 98, under FreeBSD 3.2-S, was rock solid at 504mhz. Right now i have two ppga 366's at 550, under freebsd they are stable at any speed between 550 and 600 (havnt tried any higher) yet Win2k/98 only seem to accept 550 without occasional freezes (albiet after a long time) -mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 19 14:45:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (mail.dohboys.com [208.26.253.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C3CA37B7B0 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 14:45:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.157]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 19 May 2000 14:45:22 -0700 Message-ID: <3925B5E2.6C3828FF@3-cities.com> Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 14:45:06 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Mike C. Muir" Cc: Sebastien ROCHE , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: occasional reboots References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Mike C. Muir" wrote: > > Sebastien ROCHE wrote: > > > > I had this kind of problem. > > The solution was to increase the CAS latency from 2 to 3, and to go back > > to a not-overclocked cpu. > > Strangely, I find FreeBSD to be the most welcoming OS to overclocked > cpu's.. > My old celeron 300a which would only go so far as 464mhz in Win NT or 98, > under FreeBSD 3.2-S, was rock solid at 504mhz. > Right now i have two ppga 366's at 550, under freebsd they are stable at > any speed between 550 and 600 (havnt tried any higher) yet Win2k/98 only > seem to accept 550 without occasional freezes (albiet after a long time) If you feel lucky, build XFree86 3.3.6 from the Ports. In the middle I cooked an overclocked 300a. It melted the heat transfer pad. Kent > > -mike > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 19 15:30:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2802537B636; Fri, 19 May 2000 15:30:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@privatelabs.com) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (root@misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA10071; Fri, 19 May 2000 17:29:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01200; Fri, 19 May 2000 18:30:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) From: Mikhail Teterin Message-Id: <200005192230.SAA01200@misha.privatelabs.com> Subject: AZT 1008 sound card To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 18:30:05 -0400 (EDT) Cc: stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to http://www.driverguide.com/forums/sound/azte/messages/936.html the AZT 1008 I have works as SB16 under Linux. Any reason why pcm-driver does not treat it as such under FreeBSD 4.0? Thanks! -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 19 18: 7: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zipcode.corp.home.net (zipcode.corp.home.net [24.0.26.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C912637B68F for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 18:07:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from manek@ecst.csuchico.edu) Received: from after (shiva-user30.corp.home.net [24.0.8.160]) by zipcode.corp.home.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA26751; Fri, 19 May 2000 18:05:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Sameer R. Manek" To: "Mike C. Muir" , "Sebastien ROCHE" Cc: Subject: RE: occasional reboots Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 18:04:44 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mike C. Muir > Sebastien ROCHE wrote: > > > > I had this kind of problem. > > The solution was to increase the CAS latency from 2 to 3, and to go back > > to a not-overclocked cpu. > > Strangely, I find FreeBSD to be the most welcoming OS to overclocked > cpu's.. > My old celeron 300a which would only go so far as 464mhz in Win NT or 98, > under FreeBSD 3.2-S, was rock solid at 504mhz. > Right now i have two ppga 366's at 550, under freebsd they are stable at > any speed between 550 and 600 (havnt tried any higher) yet Win2k/98 only > seem to accept 550 without occasional freezes (albiet after a long time) Overclocking is entirely a crap shot. You are pushing a system to above what the vendor rated it for. Maybe it will work, as for you it did. Or maybe you'll end up with a pile of molten transistors. It's not a good way to measure os stability, it is expected that the os will barf on hardware errors. The question you should be asking is what errors is win 2k/nt/98 failing on, that fbsd is apparently not noticing, or handling differently. RAM errors? bus errors? cache errors? video card errors? Sameer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 19 23: 3:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from student-00cdr.williams.edu (student-00cdr.williams.edu [137.165.32.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E12537B55C for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 23:03:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@student-00cdr.williams.edu) Received: by student-00cdr.williams.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 551B6125; Sat, 20 May 2000 02:04:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 02:04:10 -0400 From: Chris Richards To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Fall down, go BOOM Message-ID: <20000520020410.A306@student-00cdr.williams.edu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Minutes ago, I heard a sudden, brief surge in disk activity, and then the machine froze. (No switching consoles, even, so if there was a helpful message from the kernel I couldn't see it.) The only thing I was doing was compiling a particular SML program, which I've done plenty of times before. Relevant logs are appended. Does this look like an out-of-memory situation? Can OOM cause processes to get a SIGILL? -chris messages: --------- May 20 01:43:41 student-00cdr /kernel: pid 90866 (master), uid 0: exited on signal 4 May 20 01:44:57 student-00cdr /kernel: pid 90933 (master), uid 0: exited on signal 4 May 20 01:46:24 student-00cdr /kernel: pid 90951 (master), uid 0: exited on signal 4 May 20 01:46:26 student-00cdr /kernel: pid 167 (master), uid 0: exited on signal 4 May 20 01:46:26 student-00cdr /kernel: pid 169 (qmgr), uid 100: exited on signal 11 May 20 01:46:26 student-00cdr /kernel: pid 87194 (pickup), uid 100: exited on signal 11 May 20 01:46:28 student-00cdr /kernel: pid 90938 (run.x86-freebsd), uid 1000: exited on signal 10 (core dumped) May 20 01:46:28 student-00cdr /kernel: pid 90937 (sh), uid 1000: exited on signal 10 (core dumped) maillog: -------- May 20 01:43:25 student-00cdr postfix/master[90866]: terminating on signal 11 May 20 01:43:41 student-00cdr last message repeated 101720 times May 20 01:43:41 student-00cdr postfix/master[167]: warning: process /usr/local/libexec/postfix/smtpd pid 90866 killed by signal 4 May 20 01:43:41 student-00cdr postfix/master[167]: warning: /usr/local/libexec/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup -- throttling May 20 01:44:41 student-00cdr postfix/master[90933]: terminating on signal 11 May 20 01:44:57 student-00cdr last message repeated 101718 times May 20 01:44:57 student-00cdr postfix/master[167]: warning: process /usr/local/libexec/postfix/smtpd pid 90933 killed by signal 4 May 20 01:44:57 student-00cdr postfix/master[167]: warning: /usr/local/libexec/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup -- throttling May 20 01:45:57 student-00cdr postfix/master[90951]: terminating on signal 11 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 20 2: 9:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nyct.net (bsd4.nyct.net [204.141.86.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73DE37B56B for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 02:09:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from efutch@nyct.net) Received: from bsd1.nyct.net (efutch@bsd1.nyct.net [204.141.86.3]) by mail.nyct.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA72223; Sat, 20 May 2000 05:10:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from efutch@nyct.net) Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 05:10:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "Eric D. Futch" To: Will Andrews Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 In-Reply-To: <20000517034754.D89671@argon.blackdawn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 17 May 2000, Will Andrews wrote: > > 3:46AM up 101 days, 21:45, 15 users, load averages: 1.22, 1.18, 1.25 > 5:08AM up 491 days, 7:31, 1 user, load averages: 0.13, 0.03, 0.01 Heh.. catching up on mail. Sorry, I couldn't resist replying to this one :) -- Eric Futch New York Connect.Net, Ltd. efutch@nyct.net Technical Support Staff http://www.nyct.net (212) 293-2620 "Bringing New York The Internet Access It Deserves" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 20 5: 2: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from maillist.kabelfoon.nl (maillist.kabelfoon.nl [194.178.9.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A2D37B59A for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 05:02:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@paracas.nl) Received: from rome.paracas.nl (k2ij308.dial.kabelfoon.nl [212.136.97.54]) by maillist.kabelfoon.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB77E3AC3 for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 14:01:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from boston.paracas.nl (boston.paracas.nl [192.168.0.2]) by rome.paracas.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA74408 for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 14:01:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mark@paracas.nl) X-URL: http://www.paracas.nl Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000520135734.00b3b5d0@pop.paracas.nl> X-Sender: markr@pop.paracas.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 14:01:49 +0200 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org From: Mark Ruys Subject: subscribe freebsd-stable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable subscribe cvs-all To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 20 8:41:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ravel.n2.net (ravel.n2.net [207.113.132.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B762E37B5C8 for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 08:41:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgibbons@nike.relcast.com) Received: from nike.relcast.com (nike.relcast.com [207.113.133.19]) by ravel.n2.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA00635; Sat, 20 May 2000 08:41:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgibbons@localhost) by nike.relcast.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA43632; Sat, 20 May 2000 08:44:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgibbons) Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 08:44:17 -0700 From: Jeff Gibbons To: Gary Roberts Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 Message-ID: <20000520084416.B43451@nike.relcast.com> References: <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200005160032.KAA09256@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <200005160032.KAA09256@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au>; from Gary Roberts on Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:32:49AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:32:49AM +1000, Gary Roberts wrote: > Chad R. Larson writes :- > > > Has anyone tried to evaluate pros and cons of the various office > > suites? > > > > 1) Applixware - native > > 2) StarOffice - linux > > 3) WordPerfect - linux > > 4) anything - Wine > > 5) ??? > > > > At the moment I've basically given up - she uses W98 and I use FreeBSD. > I would be very interested in other peoples experiences. > Applixware has been a lifesaver for me, because it can import and read or edit MS Word 95/97/2000 ".doc" files directly, though it can't export to those formats (it uses .rtf instead, which is better anyway in my opinion because it is more portable). I originally bought the FreeBSD version (after seeing it demo'ed at the FreeBSDCon last year) because I work with some people who occasionally send me email with .doc file attachments, and it has allowed me to interoperate with them easily without having to boot a Windows machine. Other than the FreeBSD CDs themselves, it has been the best money I ever spent. Of course, I haven't really "wrung it out" to really see what it's capable of -- I use vi for everything _I_ have control over. You might consider trying it out; even if you can't wean your secretary off W98, you'd at least be able to read her output on your FreeBSD machine! Jeff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 20 9:20:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1472F37B741 for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 09:20:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id JAA11729; Sat, 20 May 2000 09:20:09 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda11727; Sat May 20 09:20:03 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA07771; Sat, 20 May 2000 09:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdMc7761; Sat May 20 09:19:14 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.10.1/8.9.1) id e4KGJEL03648; Sat, 20 May 2000 09:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200005201619.e4KGJEL03648@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdvm3644; Sat May 20 09:18:30 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 X-Exmh-Isig-CompType: repl X-Exmh-Isig-Folder: security/IP-Filter Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-Sender: cy To: Gert-Jan Vons Cc: ipfilter@coombs.anu.edu.au, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FTP proxy without translation no longer working? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 19 May 2000 09:37:28 +0200." <4.3.1.2.20000519092049.00b809e0@mail.vons.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 09:18:29 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Added freebsd-stable@freebsd.org to the cc list, as the solution may be found there as well as on the IP Filter mailing list. In message <4.3.1.2.20000519092049.00b809e0@mail.vons.local>, Gert-Jan Vons wri tes: > At 02:43 19/05/2000 +1000, Darren Reed wrote: > > >In some email I received from Jefferson Ogata, sie wrote: > >[...] > > > Well, I'm having a really insane problem, and it's not making me happy. > > > ... > > > All IP Filter filtering and NAT features appear to work on both types, > > > with the exception of FTP proxying. I haven't tested rdr. > > > >Both sets of rules are equivalent, with: > > > >map foo0 1.2.3.4/32 -> 5.6.7.8/32 proxy port ftp ftp/tcp > > > >(there is a bug with 0/32 on the RHS in 3.3.14) > > Can you tell me more about that bug? (do you have a work-around or a fix?) > > I am seeing problems with NAT and I do have a 0/32 on the RHS. Actually it's the 0/0 part of the rule. For example: map xl0 10.1.1.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 proxy port ... works map xl0 0.0.0.0/0 -> 0.0.0.0/32 proxy port ... doesn't map xl0 10.1.1.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 portmap tcp/udp 40000:60000 works map xl0 0.0.0.0/0 -> 0.0.0.0/32 portmap tcp/udp 40000:60000 doesn't > > I started with FreeBSD 4.0-Release, ipfilter 3.3.13, and ppp from 11-4-2000. > > I updated in steps to 3.3.14 and then 3.4.2 (for those who mailed me about > the -Werror, thanks for your help!), then installed the latest ppp of > 11-5-2000, and was preparing to install a 4.0-Stable kernel. > > I haven't a clear description of the problem. Once I saw a SYN go out but > nothing coming back, another time I didn't even see a SYN going out. I once > got the impression that an "ipnat -CF -f /etc/ipnat.rules" made things > work, but that may have been a coincidence. > > I don't have much time at the moment to investigate further (maybe in a > week or two), so if this corresponds to a known problem... I think that something in FreeBSD has changed. -stable as of April 22 had no problems with the commented out rules under 3.3.x and 3.4.3: # map xl0 0.0.0.0/0 -> 0.0.0.0/32 proxy port ftp ftp/tcp map xl0 10.1.1.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 proxy port ftp ftp/tcp map xl0 10.1.1.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 portmap tcp/udp 40000:60000 map xl0 10.1.1.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 map tun0 10.1.1.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 portmap tcp/udp 40000:60000 map tun0 10.1.1.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 map ppp0 10.1.1.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 portmap tcp/udp 40000:60000 map ppp0 10.1.1.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 map tun3 10.1.1.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 portmap tcp/udp 40000:60000 map tun3 10.1.1.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 # map tun3 0.0.0.0/0 -> 0.0.0.0/32 proxy port ekshell rcmd/tcp # map tun3 0.0.0.0/0 -> 0.0.0.0/32 proxy port kshell rcmd/tcp # map tun3 0.0.0.0/0 -> 0.0.0.0/32 proxy port shell rcmd/tcp tun3 is a VPN (IPSec) session to my employer's site. As of FreeBSD-stable from May 17 the 0/0 rules no longer work under either IPF 3.3.15 or IPF 3.4.3. I think that the FreeBSD IP stack was either broken or the FreeBSD IP stack is evolving in some way that is incompatible with IP Filter (nobody's fault). The symptoms using FreeBSD-4.0-STABLE as of May 17 are: - No route to host messages or hung sessions, depending on the protocol. Yet pings and traceroutes work. - Adding the rule: map tun3 0.0.0.0/0 -> 0.0.0.0/32 portmap tcp/udp 40000:60000 causes outbound telnet sessions to hang. This is not a proxy problem but is related to NAT. - NAT from systems on the LAN, through the gateway, e.g. the uncommented NAT rules, work. In other words only NAT (proxy or otherwise) sessions from the gateway itself fail. This seems to indicate that FreeBSD's routing code has changed since a month ago, as IPF injects the NATed packets back into the IP stack for the routing tables to route (e.g. not Darren's fault). I can see two paths to the solution: 1. FreeBSD IP stack is regressed or fixed to allow IP Filter to inject packets into the stack (routing) as it did in April, or 2. Darren finds out what has changed, how it affects IP Filter and adjusts IP Filter. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 20 11:13: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mike.dhis.org (hiper1-d17.stk.cwnet.com [205.162.108.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D118437B652 for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 11:12:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mmuir@es.co.nz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mike.dhis.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369BC1F13; Sat, 20 May 2000 11:13:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 11:13:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mike C. Muir" X-Sender: mmuir@haus.lan To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: dillon@apollo.backplane.com Subject: Problem with SMP cleanup code? Or me? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, i just cvsup'd sources for stable today, recompiled a kernel and went to boot it.. Went right up to the local package initialization and: panic: fdrop: count < 0 mplock = 00000001; cpuid = 0; lapic.id = 00000000 boot() called on cpu#0 Trying again, i get the same thing, only it was 'boot() called on cpu#1' instead.. Could this be because I had not built (or more importantly installed) world yet, or would that have no bearing on this problem? I'm not sure exactly what process was being run when this panic occured, but it was definitely up to the local package initialization. -mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 20 11:24:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF1337B515 for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 11:24:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA46056; Sat, 20 May 2000 11:24:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 11:24:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200005201824.LAA46056@apollo.backplane.com> To: "Mike C. Muir" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem with SMP cleanup code? Or me? References: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Hi, i just cvsup'd sources for stable today, recompiled a kernel and went :to boot it.. Went right up to the local package initialization and: : :panic: fdrop: count < 0 :mplock = 00000001; cpuid = 0; lapic.id = 00000000 :boot() called on cpu#0 : :Trying again, i get the same thing, only it was 'boot() called on cpu#1' :instead.. : :Could this be because I had not built (or more importantly :installed) world yet, or would that have no bearing on this problem? I'm :not sure exactly what process was being run when this panic occured, but :it was definitely up to the local package initialization. : : -mike I'm guessing you didn't recompile the modules. To be safe: cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf config YOURKERNEL cd ../../compile/YOURKERNEL make clean depend all install cd /usr/src/sys/modules make clean depend all install And reboot. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 20 12:37:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from neptun.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (sirene.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de [134.99.128.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D2237B50C for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 12:37:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ponomare@uni-duesseldorf.de) Received: from ponomare.krion (pc.unistrasse-1.uni-duesseldorf.de [134.99.26.17]) by neptun.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.1999.06.13.00.20) with SMTP id <0FUV006NTIH0XI@neptun.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> for stable@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 20 May 2000 21:36:36 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 21:35:48 +0200 From: Kirill Ponomarew Subject: Re: Problem with SMP cleanup code? Or me? In-reply-to: To: "Mike C. Muir" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: ponomare@uni-duesseldorf.de Message-id: <00052021374502.00888@ponomare.krion> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- You wrote: | Hi, i just cvsup'd sources for stable today, recompiled a kernel and went | to boot it.. Went right up to the local package initialization and: | | panic: fdrop: count < 0 | mplock = 00000001; cpuid = 0; lapic.id = 00000000 | boot() called on cpu#0 | | Trying again, i get the same thing, only it was 'boot() called on cpu#1' | instead.. I have heard that SMP doesn't work with i386 processor I tried to use SMP with it but i got the same error | Could this be because I had not built (or more importantly | installed) world yet, or would that have no bearing on this problem? I'm | not sure exactly what process was being run when this panic occured, but | it was definitely up to the local package initialization. | | -mike | | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kirill Ponomarew Tro New Media GmbH Zimmerstr. 19 40215 Duesseldorf Deutschland Fon: +49 211 / 31 16 55-21 Fax: +49 211 / 31 16 55-33 Mobile: +49 173 / 43-5555-4 Mail: kirill@tro.de "That vulnerability is completely theoretical." -- Microsoft -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: MAGAbB3lN8L9jaJFD6UdsDVjlVdjiY9/ iQA/AwUBOSbpi7SU3AmMQCDLEQLazwCg6eRKLMVbQdhUWKlmjtKaobdHbRwAn2Ok +PBMt86M3vpQm8LBx0FpF6Rd =eAwz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 20 12:47: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from evil.2y.net (ztown2-1-100.adsl.one.net [207.78.253.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17FF37B76E for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 12:46:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cokane@evil.2y.net) Received: (from cokane@localhost) by evil.2y.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA08591; Sat, 20 May 2000 15:49:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cokane) Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 15:49:43 -0400 From: Coleman Kane To: "Sameer R. Manek" Cc: "Mike C. Muir" , Sebastien ROCHE , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: occasional reboots Message-ID: <20000520154943.A8444@cokane.yi.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from manek@ecst.csuchico.edu on Fri, May 19, 2000 at 09:07:30PM -0400 X-Vim: vim:tw=70:ts=4:sw=4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think the point is that FreeBSD runs the CPU a lot cooler =3D not as many= unused processor cycles. The last time I overclocked was to send a PMMX-166 to 200= . It worked, but now CPU prices are low enough that you will spend the extra mon= ey getting really good HS/Fan combos to get it to a certain speed rather than buying a regular fan/hs and getting the fasterchip. Good example: Celeron. = The Celeron 366's are within $10 of the 533's now. May as well just get a 533. Sameer R. Manek had the audacity to say: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mike C. Muir > > Sebastien ROCHE wrote: > > > > > > I had this kind of problem. > > > The solution was to increase the CAS latency from 2 to 3, and to go b= ack > > > to a not-overclocked cpu. > > > > Strangely, I find FreeBSD to be the most welcoming OS to overclocked > > cpu's.. > > My old celeron 300a which would only go so far as 464mhz in Win NT or 9= 8, > > under FreeBSD 3.2-S, was rock solid at 504mhz. > > Right now i have two ppga 366's at 550, under freebsd they are stable at > > any speed between 550 and 600 (havnt tried any higher) yet Win2k/98 only > > seem to accept 550 without occasional freezes (albiet after a long time) >=20 > Overclocking is entirely a crap shot. You are pushing a system to above w= hat > the vendor rated it for. Maybe it will work, as for you it did. Or maybe > you'll end up with a pile of molten transistors. >=20 > It's not a good way to measure os stability, it is expected that the os w= ill > barf on hardware errors. The question you should be asking is what errors= is > win 2k/nt/98 failing on, that fbsd is apparently not noticing, or handling > differently. RAM errors? bus errors? cache errors? video card errors? >=20 > Sameer >=20 >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >=20 --=20 Coleman Kane President,=20 UC Free O.S. Users Group - http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE5JuxWERViMObJ880RAYtJAJwMslI0V30fS5s+AcA0bImEoV9V2gCfdtRX HA97jpDVIqDEMeiV11JuvaU= =jnMO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 20 12:52:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (sol.cc.u-szeged.hu [160.114.8.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB4837B6A1 for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 12:52:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (8.9.3+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id VAA01899; Sat, 20 May 2000 21:52:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 12tFI8-0000vU-00 for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 21:52:08 +0200 Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 21:52:08 +0200 From: Szilveszter Adam To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Problem with SMP cleanup code? Or me? Message-ID: <20000520215208.A3141@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.org References: <00052021374502.00888@ponomare.krion> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <00052021374502.00888@ponomare.krion>; from ponomare@uni-duesseldorf.de on Sat, May 20, 2000 at 09:35:48PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! On Sat, May 20, 2000 at 09:35:48PM +0200, Kirill Ponomarew wrote: > You wrote: > | Hi, i just cvsup'd sources for stable today, recompiled a kernel and went > | to boot it.. Went right up to the local package initialization and: Just to clarify it: it is unsupported and not recommended to just recompile the kernel from the new sources. Kernel and world should be in sync. So first you should make and install world and build a kernel after that. It is a good idea not to reboot until all of this has been done. Special directions may apply for eg major number upgrades but if so, they will be included in the /usr/src/UPDATING file (which you should read after each cvsup to see if it has changed) and/or posted to this list. It is very probable that your modules were out of sync with your kernel. AFAIK SMP certainly works on the i386 as a platform, if it is the x86 line of processors we are talking about. The actual 386s may be a different matter, never tried... Hope this helps. Regards: Szilveszter ADAM Szeged University Szeged Hungary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 20 14:46:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yoda.dccnet.com (mail.deltacable.com [207.230.239.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D3637B631 for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 14:46:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kg@dccnet.com) Received: from dccnet.com (unverified [209.5.131.193]) by yoda.dccnet.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.4.6) with ESMTP id ; Sat, 20 May 2000 14:44:09 -0700 Message-ID: <392707A6.2D4FBAD5@dccnet.com> Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 14:46:14 -0700 From: "Kevin G. Eliuk" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Gibbons Cc: Gary Roberts , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 References: <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200005160032.KAA09256@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au> <20000520084416.B43451@nike.relcast.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jeff Gibbons wrote: > You might consider trying it out; even if you can't wean your > secretary off W98, you'd at least be able to read her output on > your FreeBSD machine! I have waited to reply after some testing. I have been searching for ways to make Star Office work more productively under FreeBSD. Recently I have found that under the window manager "ude", which is available in the ports collection, allows it the headroom that it requires. Be advise the uwm is only in beta! I am looking forward to acquiring Applixware in the future though, as reports seem to indicate it is the true solution. -- Regards, )))))) )))))) )))))) Kevin G. Eliuk )) )) )) )) )) )) http://www.FreeBSD.org )) "Change your operating system, )) )) )) )) )) and You can change your World." )))))) )))))) )))))) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 20 15:27:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A44237B58A for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 15:27:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@billy-club.village.org) Received: from billy-club.village.org (billy-club.village.org [10.0.0.3]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00629; Sat, 20 May 2000 16:27:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@billy-club.village.org) Received: from billy-club.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by billy-club.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA54658; Sat, 20 May 2000 16:26:12 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200005202226.QAA54658@billy-club.village.org> To: Kent Stewart Subject: Re: occasional reboots Cc: "Mike C. Muir" , Sebastien ROCHE , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 19 May 2000 14:45:06 PDT." <3925B5E2.6C3828FF@3-cities.com> References: <3925B5E2.6C3828FF@3-cities.com> Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 16:26:12 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <3925B5E2.6C3828FF@3-cities.com> Kent Stewart writes: : If you feel lucky, build XFree86 3.3.6 from the Ports. In the middle I : cooked an overclocked 300a. It melted the heat transfer pad. That's bad, right :-) Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 20 17:39:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86EB37B7B2; Sat, 20 May 2000 17:39:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id RAA12494; Sat, 20 May 2000 17:39:22 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda12492; Sat May 20 17:39:11 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA08912; Sat, 20 May 2000 17:39:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdKE8910; Sat May 20 17:38:30 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.10.1/8.9.1) id e4L0cTx00858; Sat, 20 May 2000 17:38:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200005210038.e4L0cTx00858@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdrUo853; Sat May 20 17:37:58 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-Sender: cy To: darrenr@reed.wattle.id.au, jlemon@freebsd.org Cc: ipfilter@coombs.anu.edu.au, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, ps@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FTP proxy without translation no longer working? (fwd) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 17:37:57 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've managed to track down the problem to a FreeBSD commit. Where in the commit, I'm not sure yet. Restoring the files in the commit to their previous versions on a -stable system as of May 17 definitely fixes the problem. jlemon 2000/05/05 06:37:06 PDT Modified files: (Branch: RELENG_4) sys/netinet ip_input.c ip_output.c tcp_input.c tcp_output.c tcp_subr.c udp_usrreq.c sys/sys mbuf.h param.h sys/pci if_ti.c sys/i386/i386 in_cksum.c sys/i386/include in_cksum.h param.h sys/alpha/alpha in_cksum.c sys/alpha/include in_cksum.h sys/net if.h if_var.h slcompress.h Log: MFC: delayed checksum work. This also brings the mbuf size up to 256. Revision Changes Path 1.130.2.1 +15 -4 src/sys/netinet/ip_input.c 1.99.2.1 +110 -29 src/sys/netinet/ip_output.c 1.107.2.2 +23 -11 src/sys/netinet/tcp_input.c 1.39.2.1 +12 -9 src/sys/netinet/tcp_output.c 1.73.2.1 +20 -22 src/sys/netinet/tcp_subr.c 1.64.2.1 +26 -11 src/sys/netinet/udp_usrreq.c 1.44.2.3 +22 -6 src/sys/sys/mbuf.h 1.61.2.4 +2 -2 src/sys/sys/param.h 1.25.2.1 +63 -38 src/sys/pci/if_ti.c 1.17.2.1 +191 -2 src/sys/i386/i386/in_cksum.c 1.7.2.1 +26 -1 src/sys/i386/include/in_cksum.h 1.54.2.1 +2 -2 src/sys/i386/include/param.h 1.2.2.1 +67 -1 src/sys/alpha/alpha/in_cksum.c 1.3.2.1 +4 -1 src/sys/alpha/include/in_cksum.h 1.58.2.1 +3 -3 src/sys/net/if.h 1.18.2.1 +2 -1 src/sys/net/if_var.h 1.14.2.1 +2 -2 src/sys/net/slcompress.h Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC ------- Forwarded Message Return-Path: cschuber@osg.gov.bc.ca Delivery-Date: Sat May 20 09:30:45 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.10.1/8.9.1) id e4KGUiI00525 for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 09:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from passer9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.2), claiming to be "passer.osg.gov.bc.ca" via SMTP by cwsys9.cwsent.com, id smtpdbTv523; Sat May 20 09:30:02 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA07822 for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 09:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200005201630.JAA07822@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> Received: from localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "passer.osg.gov.bc.ca" via SMTP by localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdHk7808; Sat May 20 09:29:01 2000 Delivery-Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 09:29:01 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA07800 for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 09:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.102.44) via SMTP by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdFT7798; Sat May 20 09:28:29 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id JAA11748 for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 09:28:29 -0700 Received: from cairo.anu.edu.au(150.203.224.11) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda11746; Sat May 20 09:28:26 2000 Received: from localhost (majordomo@localhost) by cairo.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA27491; Sun, 21 May 2000 02:20:29 +1000 (EST) Received: by cairo.anu.edu.au (bulk_mailer v1.5); Sun, 21 May 2000 02:20:29 +1000 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cairo.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA27481 for ipfilter-outgoing; Sun, 21 May 2000 02:20:28 +1000 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: cairo.anu.edu.au: majordomo set sender to owner-ipfilter@coombs.anu.edu.au using -f Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by cairo.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA27475 for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 02:20:25 +1000 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id JAA11729; Sat, 20 May 2000 09:20:09 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda11727; Sat May 20 09:20:03 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA07771; Sat, 20 May 2000 09:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdMc7761; Sat May 20 09:19:14 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.10.1/8.9.1) id e4KGJEL03648; Sat, 20 May 2000 09:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200005201619.e4KGJEL03648@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdvm3644; Sat May 20 09:18:30 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 X-Exmh-Isig-CompType: repl X-Exmh-Isig-Folder: security/IP-Filter Reply-to: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-Sender: cy To: Gert-Jan Vons cc: ipfilter@coombs.anu.edu.au, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FTP proxy without translation no longer working? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 19 May 2000 09:37:28 +0200." <4.3.1.2.20000519092049.00b809e0@mail.vons.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 09:18:29 -0700 Sender: owner-ipfilter@coombs.anu.edu.au Resent-To: cy@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca Resent-Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 09:29:01 -0700 Resent-From: Cy Schubert Added freebsd-stable@freebsd.org to the cc list, as the solution may be found there as well as on the IP Filter mailing list. In message <4.3.1.2.20000519092049.00b809e0@mail.vons.local>, Gert-Jan Vons wri tes: > At 02:43 19/05/2000 +1000, Darren Reed wrote: > > >In some email I received from Jefferson Ogata, sie wrote: > >[...] > > > Well, I'm having a really insane problem, and it's not making me happy. > > > ... > > > All IP Filter filtering and NAT features appear to work on both types, > > > with the exception of FTP proxying. I haven't tested rdr. > > > >Both sets of rules are equivalent, with: > > > >map foo0 1.2.3.4/32 -> 5.6.7.8/32 proxy port ftp ftp/tcp > > > >(there is a bug with 0/32 on the RHS in 3.3.14) > > Can you tell me more about that bug? (do you have a work-around or a fix?) > > I am seeing problems with NAT and I do have a 0/32 on the RHS. Actually it's the 0/0 part of the rule. For example: map xl0 10.1.1.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 proxy port ... works map xl0 0.0.0.0/0 -> 0.0.0.0/32 proxy port ... doesn't map xl0 10.1.1.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 portmap tcp/udp 40000:60000 works map xl0 0.0.0.0/0 -> 0.0.0.0/32 portmap tcp/udp 40000:60000 doesn't > > I started with FreeBSD 4.0-Release, ipfilter 3.3.13, and ppp from 11-4-2000. > > I updated in steps to 3.3.14 and then 3.4.2 (for those who mailed me about > the -Werror, thanks for your help!), then installed the latest ppp of > 11-5-2000, and was preparing to install a 4.0-Stable kernel. > > I haven't a clear description of the problem. Once I saw a SYN go out but > nothing coming back, another time I didn't even see a SYN going out. I once > got the impression that an "ipnat -CF -f /etc/ipnat.rules" made things > work, but that may have been a coincidence. > > I don't have much time at the moment to investigate further (maybe in a > week or two), so if this corresponds to a known problem... I think that something in FreeBSD has changed. -stable as of April 22 had no problems with the commented out rules under 3.3.x and 3.4.3: # map xl0 0.0.0.0/0 -> 0.0.0.0/32 proxy port ftp ftp/tcp map xl0 10.1.1.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 proxy port ftp ftp/tcp map xl0 10.1.1.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 portmap tcp/udp 40000:60000 map xl0 10.1.1.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 map tun0 10.1.1.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 portmap tcp/udp 40000:60000 map tun0 10.1.1.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 map ppp0 10.1.1.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 portmap tcp/udp 40000:60000 map ppp0 10.1.1.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 map tun3 10.1.1.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 portmap tcp/udp 40000:60000 map tun3 10.1.1.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 # map tun3 0.0.0.0/0 -> 0.0.0.0/32 proxy port ekshell rcmd/tcp # map tun3 0.0.0.0/0 -> 0.0.0.0/32 proxy port kshell rcmd/tcp # map tun3 0.0.0.0/0 -> 0.0.0.0/32 proxy port shell rcmd/tcp tun3 is a VPN (IPSec) session to my employer's site. As of FreeBSD-stable from May 17 the 0/0 rules no longer work under either IPF 3.3.15 or IPF 3.4.3. I think that the FreeBSD IP stack was either broken or the FreeBSD IP stack is evolving in some way that is incompatible with IP Filter (nobody's fault). The symptoms using FreeBSD-4.0-STABLE as of May 17 are: - - No route to host messages or hung sessions, depending on the protocol. Yet pings and traceroutes work. - - Adding the rule: map tun3 0.0.0.0/0 -> 0.0.0.0/32 portmap tcp/udp 40000:60000 causes outbound telnet sessions to hang. This is not a proxy problem but is related to NAT. - - NAT from systems on the LAN, through the gateway, e.g. the uncommented NAT rules, work. In other words only NAT (proxy or otherwise) sessions from the gateway itself fail. This seems to indicate that FreeBSD's routing code has changed since a month ago, as IPF injects the NATed packets back into the IP stack for the routing tables to route (e.g. not Darren's fault). I can see two paths to the solution: 1. FreeBSD IP stack is regressed or fixed to allow IP Filter to inject packets into the stack (routing) as it did in April, or 2. Darren finds out what has changed, how it affects IP Filter and adjusts IP Filter. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC ------- End of Forwarded Message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 20 17:48:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from midway.uchicago.edu (midway.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A9637B655 for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 17:48:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dbsypher@uchicago.edu) Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (root@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA28832 for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 19:48:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cerberus (broad-208-049.rh.uchicago.edu [128.135.208.49]) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA29887 for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 19:48:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000520193514.00b956b0@nsit-popmail.uchicago.edu> X-Sender: dbsypher@nsit-popmail.uchicago.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 19:48:40 -0600 To: stable@freebsd.org From: David Syphers Subject: make world kills passwords? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm doing something wrong, but I'm not sure what. I did a 'make world', made and installed a new kernel, ran mergemaster, rebooted, and now I can't log in (as root or as a user). This has happened to me before (but only on 4-stable). I know I can use boot -s, but that shouldn't be part of a normal make world, and I'm assuming it's not. What am I doing wrong? (BTW, I noted that mergemaster didn't touch the password file.) -David Charon@freethought.org http://www.seektruth.org/ It makes me angry to have people bury me. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 20 17:56: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6550A37B7BF for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 17:55:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 14951 invoked by uid 1000); 21 May 2000 00:55:52 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 May 2000 00:55:52 -0000 Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 20:55:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: David Syphers Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make world kills passwords? In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000520193514.00b956b0@nsit-popmail.uchicago.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Most likely your links were changed from MD5 to DES in the crypt, what you want to do is NODESCRYPTLINKS=true in /etc/make.conf so it does not blow those links at make world time. To fix this manually, do: cd /usr/lib rm libcrypt.a libcrypt.so libcrypt.so.2 ln -s libscrypt.so.2 libcrypt.so.2 ln -s libscrypt.so libcrypt.so ln -s libscrypt.a libcrypt.a [ That will change your passwords back to MD5 ] Of course, if you were using DES before... do: cd /usr/lib rm libcrypt.a libcrypt.so libcrypt.so.2 ln -s libdescrypt.so.2 libcrypt.so.2 ln -s libdescrypt.so libcrypt.so ln -s libdescrypt.a libcrypt.a Disclaimer: I'm assuming that your symlinks were blown in the make world, but you should confirm this by checking them before executing the above commands. In other words, be careful. Matt On Sat, 20 May 2000, David Syphers wrote: : Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 21:48:40 -0400 : From: David Syphers : To: stable@freebsd.org : Subject: make world kills passwords? : : I'm doing something wrong, but I'm not sure what. I did a 'make world', : made and installed a new kernel, ran mergemaster, rebooted, and now I can't : log in (as root or as a user). This has happened to me before (but only on : 4-stable). I know I can use boot -s, but that shouldn't be part of a : normal make world, and I'm assuming it's not. What am I doing : wrong? (BTW, I noted that mergemaster didn't touch the password file.) : : : -David : : : Charon@freethought.org : http://www.seektruth.org/ : : It makes me angry to have people bury me. : : : : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org : with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message : Matt Heckaman matt@arpa.mail.net http://www.lucida.qc.ca -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5JzQYdMMtMcA1U5ARAsdyAJ9uavJm2Ux0T1U9OIb6oJ6XB6Cw4wCgnKYk IQ+7+u29oeSmAsBy3Y/GTxY= =cvy1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 20 18:44:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from spider.forumone.com (spider.forumone.com [207.32.101.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 506E737B73D for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 18:44:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jo@spider.forumone.com) Received: by spider.forumone.com (Postfix, from userid 1008) id A3C62ACEB; Sat, 20 May 2000 21:44:57 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: GNOME Message-Id: <20000521014457.A3C62ACEB@spider.forumone.com> Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 21:44:57 -0400 (EDT) From: jo@spider.forumone.com (Joakim Ryden) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is anyone else having problems installing GNOME from the ports? make install breaks with: cp libpng_1.dev libpng.dev make: don't know how to make libpng/png.h. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /opt/ports/print/ghostscript5. *** Error code 1 Any suggestions anyone? Jo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 20 19:47:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lunatic.oneinsane.net (lunatic.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ABE237B69A for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 19:47:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net) Received: by lunatic.oneinsane.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CB0375DB8; Sat, 20 May 2000 19:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 19:47:36 -0700 From: Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson To: Joakim Ryden Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GNOME Message-ID: <20000520194736.A43770@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Reply-To: Ron Rosson Mail-Followup-To: Joakim Ryden , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20000521014457.A3C62ACEB@spider.forumone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000521014457.A3C62ACEB@spider.forumone.com>; from jo@spider.forumone.com on Sat, May 20, 2000 at 09:44:57PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD lunatic.oneinsane.net 4.0-STABLE X-Moon: The Moon is Waning Gibbous (93% of Full) X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net X-PGP-KEY: http://www.oneinsane.net/~insane/insane2-pgp5i.txt X-Uptime: 7:45PM up 10 days, 11:43, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 20 May 2000, Joakim Ryden was heard blurting out: > Is anyone else having problems installing GNOME from > the ports? make install breaks with: > cp libpng_1.dev libpng.dev > make: don't know how to make libpng/png.h. Stop > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /opt/ports/print/ghostscript5. > *** Error code 1 > > Any suggestions anyone? > If you look closely this is becuase there was a problem with the ghostscript port. It has since been fixed. Update the ghostscript port and it should compile fine. TIA -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was /dev/null and *void() ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Decadence is its own reward. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 20 21:21:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ktts.kharkov.ua (ktts.kharkov.ua [193.124.57.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D0037B732 for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 21:21:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@Thing-Fish.Kharkov.NET) Received: from Thing-Fish.Kharkov.NET (greg@Thing-Fish.Kharkov.NET [193.124.57.81]) by ktts.kharkov.ua (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e4L4LWi20473 for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 07:21:32 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from greg@localhost) by Thing-Fish.Kharkov.NET (8.9.0/8.9.0) id HAA09926 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 21 May 2000 07:21:30 +0300 (EEST) From: Gregory Edigaroff Message-Id: <200005210421.HAA09926@Thing-Fish.Kharkov.NET> Subject: make world & make.conf To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 07:21:29 +0300 (EEST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! It seems like "make world" doesn't pay any attention to what is written in /etc/make.conf. In my site I use sendmail-8.10.1, so I don't want sendmail to build. I've added the line "NO_SENDMAIL=true" in /etc/make.conf file, but sendmail still builds and installs. -- With best regards, Gregory Edigarov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 20 21:29: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from darren2.lnk.telstra.net (darren2.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.53.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B79E237B732; Sat, 20 May 2000 21:28:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darrenr@reed.wattle.id.au) Received: (from root@localhost) by darren2.lnk.telstra.net (8.9.1/8.8.7) id EAA28268; Sun, 21 May 2000 04:28:40 GMT From: Darren Reed Message-Id: <200005210428.OAA12435@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au> Subject: Re: FTP proxy without translation no longer working? (fwd) In-Reply-To: <200005210038.e4L0cTx00858@cwsys.cwsent.com> from Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group at "May 20, 0 05:37:57 pm" To: jlemon@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 14:28:30 +1000 (EST) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, ps@freebsd.org, Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL37 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jonathan, Can you please back these changes out for 4.0_STABLE ? They appear to interfere with the operation IP Filter. I'm happy for these to on the head and for there to be work required to get things working again. If I don't hear/see from you within the next week, I'll assume that you otherwise are not that concerned and offer to backout the changes myself. Cheers, Darren In some email I received from Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group, sie wrote: > I've managed to track down the problem to a FreeBSD commit. Where in > the commit, I'm not sure yet. Restoring the files in the commit to > their previous versions on a -stable system as of May 17 definitely > fixes the problem. > > jlemon 2000/05/05 06:37:06 PDT > > Modified files: (Branch: RELENG_4) > sys/netinet ip_input.c ip_output.c tcp_input.c > tcp_output.c tcp_subr.c udp_usrreq.c > sys/sys mbuf.h param.h > sys/pci if_ti.c > sys/i386/i386 in_cksum.c > sys/i386/include in_cksum.h param.h > sys/alpha/alpha in_cksum.c > sys/alpha/include in_cksum.h > sys/net if.h if_var.h slcompress.h > Log: > MFC: delayed checksum work. This also brings the mbuf size up to 256. > > Revision Changes Path > 1.130.2.1 +15 -4 src/sys/netinet/ip_input.c > 1.99.2.1 +110 -29 src/sys/netinet/ip_output.c > 1.107.2.2 +23 -11 src/sys/netinet/tcp_input.c > 1.39.2.1 +12 -9 src/sys/netinet/tcp_output.c > 1.73.2.1 +20 -22 src/sys/netinet/tcp_subr.c > 1.64.2.1 +26 -11 src/sys/netinet/udp_usrreq.c > 1.44.2.3 +22 -6 src/sys/sys/mbuf.h > 1.61.2.4 +2 -2 src/sys/sys/param.h > 1.25.2.1 +63 -38 src/sys/pci/if_ti.c > 1.17.2.1 +191 -2 src/sys/i386/i386/in_cksum.c > 1.7.2.1 +26 -1 src/sys/i386/include/in_cksum.h > 1.54.2.1 +2 -2 src/sys/i386/include/param.h > 1.2.2.1 +67 -1 src/sys/alpha/alpha/in_cksum.c > 1.3.2.1 +4 -1 src/sys/alpha/include/in_cksum.h > 1.58.2.1 +3 -3 src/sys/net/if.h > 1.18.2.1 +2 -1 src/sys/net/if_var.h > 1.14.2.1 +2 -2 src/sys/net/slcompress.h To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 20 21:40:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.bna.bellsouth.net (mail1.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 370E337B889 for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 21:40:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from discover.siteplus.net (host-216-78-83-9.cha.bellsouth.net [216.78.83.9]) by mail1.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id AAA04858 for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 00:40:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 00:40:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: ad0 drivers revisited Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I thought this was fixed ;-( Sorry to bring this one back up, but at the time the thread was going on I didn't have a machine with this problem. I do now. I updated this machine from 3.4-stable to 4.0-stable with source cvsuped Wednesday. ad0: 4884MB [10585/15/63] at ata0-master using BIOSDMA ata1-slave: simplex device, DMA on primary only acd0: CDROM at ata1-slave using BIOSPIO Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a ad0: READ command timeout - resetting ata0: resetting devices .. done ad0: READ command timeout - resetting ata0: resetting devices .. done ad0: READ command timeout - resetting ata0: resetting devices .. done ad0: READ command timeout - resetting ata0-master: timeout waiting to give command=ef s=eb e=eb ad0: trying fallback to PIO mode ata0: resetting devices .. done After going over the archives it seems that the fix is to put /sbin/sysctl -w hw.atamodes=pio,pio,pio,pio at the beginning of /etc/rc. This is not working for me. What resolution if any was there to this problem? Thanks, Jim Weeks -------- A mind is a terrible thing to lose! How I miss mine.. 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