From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 0:18:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shemp.palomine.net (shemp.palomine.net [205.198.88.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 473DC37B5E4 for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 00:18:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjohnson@palomine.net) Received: (qmail 44110 invoked by uid 1000); 21 May 2000 07:18:06 -0000 Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 03:18:06 -0400 From: Chris Johnson To: Gregory Edigaroff Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make world & make.conf Message-ID: <20000521031806.A44099@palomine.net> References: <200005210421.HAA09926@Thing-Fish.Kharkov.NET> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200005210421.HAA09926@Thing-Fish.Kharkov.NET>; from greg@Thing-Fish.Kharkov.NET on Sun, May 21, 2000 at 07:21:29AM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 21, 2000 at 07:21:29AM +0300, Gregory Edigaroff wrote: > It seems like "make world" doesn't pay any attention to what is written > in /etc/make.conf. > In my site I use sendmail-8.10.1, so I don't want sendmail to build. > I've added the line "NO_SENDMAIL=true" in /etc/make.conf file, > but sendmail still builds and installs. I thought the same thing, but it turns out not to be the case. Note that /usr/sbin/sendmail is a symlink to /usr/sbin/mailwrapper, and read the mailwrapper man page. Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 1: 9:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E400F37B57C for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 01:09:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.155]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Sun, 21 May 2000 01:09:06 -0700 Message-ID: <39279990.E563CC45@3-cities.com> Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 01:08:48 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warner Losh Cc: "Mike C. Muir" , Sebastien ROCHE , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: occasional reboots References: <3925B5E2.6C3828FF@3-cities.com> <200005202226.QAA54658@billy-club.village.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <3925B5E2.6C3828FF@3-cities.com> Kent Stewart writes: > : If you feel lucky, build XFree86 3.3.6 from the Ports. In the middle I > : cooked an overclocked 300a. It melted the heat transfer pad. > > That's bad, right :-) hehehehehehe Well, it sure didn't run very long after that. I had never seen the heat transfer pad on a heat sink melt before. The interesting part was that you could tell where the Celeron was generating most of the heat. That was sort of like watching a Cray 2 boil the florinert (?sp) (the liquid the cpu was immersed in). You could always tell what part of the system was being used by following the bubbles. One of the old Fijitsu 1GB scsi drives had an air flow requirement of so many feet/second of air flow. The fan died and the drive case metal turned blue just before the drive died. I never thought of an HD getting that hot. I am not sure what got hotter the HD or the Celeron. Kent > > Warner > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 1:27: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ktts.kharkov.ua (ktts.kharkov.ua [193.124.57.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA11437B537 for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 01:26:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@Thing-Fish.Kharkov.NET) Received: from Thing-Fish.Kharkov.NET (greg@Thing-Fish.Kharkov.NET [193.124.57.81]) by ktts.kharkov.ua (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e4L8QFi11848; Sun, 21 May 2000 11:26:15 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from greg@localhost) by Thing-Fish.Kharkov.NET (8.9.0/8.9.0) id LAA10743; Sun, 21 May 2000 11:26:14 +0300 (EEST) From: Gregory Edigaroff Message-Id: <200005210826.LAA10743@Thing-Fish.Kharkov.NET> Subject: Re: make world & make.conf To: cjohnson@palomine.net, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 11:26:14 +0300 (EEST) In-Reply-To: <20000521031806.A44099@palomine.net> from "Chris Johnson" at May 21, 2000 03:18:06 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > On Sun, May 21, 2000 at 07:21:29AM +0300, Gregory Edigaroff wrote: > > It seems like "make world" doesn't pay any attention to what is written > > in /etc/make.conf. > > In my site I use sendmail-8.10.1, so I don't want sendmail to build. > > I've added the line "NO_SENDMAIL=true" in /etc/make.conf file, > > but sendmail still builds and installs. > > I thought the same thing, but it turns out not to be the case. Note that > /usr/sbin/sendmail is a symlink to /usr/sbin/mailwrapper, and read the > mailwrapper man page. OK! It's 'bout sendmail. BUT! It does not pay any attention to some other things I've turned on or off in make.conf, as well. I wonder what's going wrong... -- With best regards, Gregory Edigarov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 4: 4:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B29A37B5C6 for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 04:04:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p07-dn03kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [210.232.224.136]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN/) with ESMTP id UAA29962; Sun, 21 May 2000 20:04:48 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3927BED3.50764886@newsguy.com> Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 19:47:47 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Will Andrews Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 References: <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200005160032.KAA09256@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au> <20000516084052.A12672@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> <20000516195819.J233@parish> <20000517034754.D89671@argon.blackdawn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Will Andrews wrote: > > On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 07:58:19PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > Doesn't W95 hang after 47.9(?) days anyway ;-) > > I have a Windows box across the lab here, while running Windows 95 (one > of the older releases) it often attained 200-250 day uptimes. In stark > contrast, under Windows 98, it usually lasts between 30 to 60 days. Huh???? 1) If it has 200-250 days uptimes, it can't be often. :-) 2) It is a _known fact_ that W95 hangs after about 48 days. That uptime of yours can't be right. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@another.bsdconspiracy.org "Sentience hurts." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 4:58:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B99B37B5C6 for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 04:58:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daemon@mips.inka.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 12tUMz-0006Sl-00; Sun, 21 May 2000 13:58:09 +0200 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA20980 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 21 May 2000 13:57:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: SMP MFC breaks build on alpha Date: 21 May 2000 13:57:22 +0200 Message-ID: <8g8iv2$kf6$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The "SMP cleanup" MFC has broken buildworld on alpha (4.0-STABLE). At line 42, tries to include , which doesn't exist on alpha. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 7:46:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 398E037B904 for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 07:46:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix, from userid 100) id 6A175E881; Sun, 21 May 2000 10:46:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14631.63171.359117.859269@kci.kciLink.com> Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 10:46:27 -0400 (EDT) To: David Syphers Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make world kills passwords? In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000520193514.00b956b0@nsit-popmail.uchicago.edu> References: <4.2.2.20000520193514.00b956b0@nsit-popmail.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 7) "Biscayne" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "DS" == David Syphers writes: DS> I'm doing something wrong, but I'm not sure what. I did a 'make DS> world', made and installed a new kernel, ran mergemaster, During mergemaster, DO NOT install the "new" master.passwd file. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 8:24: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from prism.flugsvamp.com (cb58709-a.mdsn1.wi.home.com [24.17.241.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D70B37B955; Sun, 21 May 2000 08:23:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jlemon@flugsvamp.com) Received: (from jlemon@localhost) by prism.flugsvamp.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA74857; Sun, 21 May 2000 10:28:08 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jlemon) Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 10:28:08 -0500 From: Jonathan Lemon To: Darren Reed Cc: jlemon@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, ps@freebsd.org, Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca Subject: Re: FTP proxy without translation no longer working? (fwd) Message-ID: <20000521102808.C5468@prism.flugsvamp.com> References: <200005210038.e4L0cTx00858@cwsys.cwsent.com> <200005210428.OAA12435@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <200005210428.OAA12435@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 21, 2000 at 02:28:30PM +1000, Darren Reed wrote: > Jonathan, > Can you please back these changes out for 4.0_STABLE ? They appear > to interfere with the operation IP Filter. I'm happy for these to on the > head and for there to be work required to get things working again. If I > don't hear/see from you within the next week, I'll assume that you otherwise > are not that concerned and offer to backout the changes myself. Well, instead of backing the changes out, how about we fix the problem instead? I'm not familiar with IPFilter, but I know that there were some initial problems with ipfw, perhaps the problems here are similar. What happens now is that the TCP/UDP layer will place the pseudo checksum in the TCP/UDP header, and set a flag in the mbuf. After the IP layer determines which interface the packet is going out on, it will compute the checksum if: 1. the interface indicates it does not support delayed checksums, and 2. the delayed csum flag is set in the mbuf. If the packet is intercepted/redirected at some point between the upper (TCP) and lower (IP) layers, then it will not have a valid checksum. In this case, there needs to be a small bit of code to force the checksum to be computed if necessary. E.g.: if (m->m_pkthdr.csum_flags & CSUM_DELAY_DATA) { in_delayed_cksum(m); m->m_pkthdr.csum_flags &= ~CSUM_DELAY_DATA; } I don't know where IPFilter hooks into the stack, so I don't know where the appropriate point to put this would be. -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 9:19:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50EE37B929; Sun, 21 May 2000 09:19:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id JAA14812; Sun, 21 May 2000 09:18:46 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda14810; Sun May 21 09:18:39 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA00550; Sun, 21 May 2000 09:18:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdNvF548; Sun May 21 09:18:09 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.10.1/8.9.1) id e4LGI8W37731; Sun, 21 May 2000 09:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200005211618.e4LGI8W37731@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdB37722; Sun May 21 09:17:35 2000 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-Mailer: nmh 1.0.4, Exmh 2.1.1 X-Sender: cy To: Jonathan Lemon , Darren Reed Cc: jlemon@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ps@FreeBSD.ORG, Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca Subject: Re: FTP proxy without translation no longer working? (fwd) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 May 2000 10:28:08 CDT." <20000521102808.C5468@prism.flugsvamp.com> Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 09:17:35 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000521102808.C5468@prism.flugsvamp.com>, Jonathan Lemon writes: > On Sun, May 21, 2000 at 02:28:30PM +1000, Darren Reed wrote: > > Jonathan, > > Can you please back these changes out for 4.0_STABLE ? They appea > r > > to interfere with the operation IP Filter. I'm happy for these to on the > > head and for there to be work required to get things working again. If I > > don't hear/see from you within the next week, I'll assume that you otherwis > e > > are not that concerned and offer to backout the changes myself. > > Well, instead of backing the changes out, how about we fix the problem > instead? I'm not familiar with IPFilter, but I know that there were > some initial problems with ipfw, perhaps the problems here are similar. > [comments irrelevant to my reply removed] > > I don't know where IPFilter hooks into the stack, so I don't know > where the appropriate point to put this would be. While we're at it, would it be possible to import IP Filter 3.4.3 into the -current branch, for merge into -stable before 4.1 or 4.2? This will bring IPv6 support into the "native" IP Filter packaged with FreeBSD. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 9:28: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from darren2.lnk.telstra.net (darren2.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.53.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C0B37B92F; Sun, 21 May 2000 09:27:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darrenr@reed.wattle.id.au) Received: (from root@localhost) by darren2.lnk.telstra.net (8.9.1/8.8.7) id QAA28879; Sun, 21 May 2000 16:26:54 GMT From: Darren Reed Message-Id: <200005211626.CAA12901@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au> Subject: 4.0_STABLE Broken (was Re: FTP proxy without translation no longer working? (fwd)) In-Reply-To: <20000521102808.C5468@prism.flugsvamp.com> from Jonathan Lemon at "May 21, 0 10:28:08 am" To: jlemon@flugsvamp.com (Jonathan Lemon) Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 02:26:50 +1000 (EST) Cc: darrenr@reed.wattle.id.au, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, ps@freebsd.org, Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL37 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In some email I received from Jonathan Lemon, sie wrote: > On Sun, May 21, 2000 at 02:28:30PM +1000, Darren Reed wrote: > > Jonathan, > > Can you please back these changes out for 4.0_STABLE ? > > They appear to interfere with the operation IP Filter. I'm happy > > for these to on the head and for there to be work required to get > > things working again. If I don't hear/see from you within the > > next week, I'll assume that you otherwise are not that concerned > > and offer to backout the changes myself. > > Well, instead of backing the changes out, how about we fix the problem > instead? I'm not familiar with IPFilter, but I know that there were > some initial problems with ipfw, perhaps the problems here are similar. Okay. So you want to play "pass the buck". Backing out that change (which does not fix *any* bugs!) will "fix the problem". As it is, you've introduced a _new feature_ to the _STABLE branch and broken something. In my book, that's two crosses you've marked up: changes to _STABLE must not break it and new features must be extensively tested in -current before committing to a release branch. To summarise, some very good reasons why that change should be backed out of 4.0_STABLE: 1. It breaks 4.0_STABLE 2. It breaks 4.0_STABLE 3. It breaks 4.0_STABLE Do you need any more ? I am given to understand that FreeBSD doesn't have a very strict (read absent) release engineering policy which allows for this sort of thing to happen. The change (as I understand it) is not necessary for stability. It would appear that it needs some testing under -current and until it works flawlessly there should not be brought into the -stable branch. At least that is how the current "release engineering" process works, right ? Put it in -current and if there are no problems, put it on -stable and if there are problems there, remove from -stable until things are fixed in -current ? Or is that a failure on my part to believe that things should be fixed in -current before they are patched up in -stable ? It *SHOULD NOT* matter that there "may be" a problem with how IP Filter is handling the checksums (and given the comments from your changes for things like IP divert I'm sure there are). Commits to -stable should *NOT* break -stable in any way. Or am I wrong in making that statement and that commits to -stable are (now) allowed to break it ? Jordan ? > What happens now is that the TCP/UDP layer will place the pseudo > checksum in the TCP/UDP header, and set a flag in the mbuf. After > the IP layer determines which interface the packet is going out on, > it will compute the checksum if: 1. the interface indicates it does > not support delayed checksums, and 2. the delayed csum flag is set > in the mbuf. Sounds like a similar sort of `hack' used in Solaris for devices which do the TCP checksum in hardware (at present limited to Gigabit and ATM cards, AFAIK). > If the packet is intercepted/redirected at some point between the > upper (TCP) and lower (IP) layers, then it will not have a valid > checksum. In this case, there needs to be a small bit of code to > force the checksum to be computed if necessary. E.g.: > > if (m->m_pkthdr.csum_flags & CSUM_DELAY_DATA) { > in_delayed_cksum(m); > m->m_pkthdr.csum_flags &= ~CSUM_DELAY_DATA; > } > > I don't know where IPFilter hooks into the stack, so I don't know > where the appropriate point to put this would be. Well, maybe you should have thought of that *before* you merged the change from -current into 4.0_STABLE ? Jordan, if you're reading this, you should give some *serious* thought to setting up a proper release engineering team - they should be dealing with this, not me and Jonathan directly pissing on each other. Allowing the "unwashed" (i.e. committers) to commit to released and stable branches is an invitation for disaster, IMHO. Darren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 9:38: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from darren2.lnk.telstra.net (darren2.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.53.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC64837B805; Sun, 21 May 2000 09:37:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darrenr@reed.wattle.id.au) Received: (from root@localhost) by darren2.lnk.telstra.net (8.9.1/8.8.7) id QAA28893; Sun, 21 May 2000 16:37:54 GMT From: Darren Reed Message-Id: <200005211637.CAA12917@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au> Subject: Re: FTP proxy without translation no longer working? (fwd) In-Reply-To: <200005211618.e4LGI8W37731@cwsys.cwsent.com> from Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group at "May 21, 0 09:17:35 am" To: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 02:37:50 +1000 (EST) Cc: jlemon@flugsvamp.com, darrenr@reed.wattle.id.au, jlemon@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ps@FreeBSD.ORG, Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL37 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In some email I received from Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group, sie wrote: > In message <20000521102808.C5468@prism.flugsvamp.com>, Jonathan Lemon writes: > > On Sun, May 21, 2000 at 02:28:30PM +1000, Darren Reed wrote: > > > Jonathan, > > > Can you please back these changes out for 4.0_STABLE ? They appea > > r > > > to interfere with the operation IP Filter. I'm happy for these to on the > > > head and for there to be work required to get things working again. If I > > > don't hear/see from you within the next week, I'll assume that you otherwis > > e > > > are not that concerned and offer to backout the changes myself. > > > > Well, instead of backing the changes out, how about we fix the problem > > instead? I'm not familiar with IPFilter, but I know that there were > > some initial problems with ipfw, perhaps the problems here are similar. > > > [comments irrelevant to my reply removed] > > > > I don't know where IPFilter hooks into the stack, so I don't know > > where the appropriate point to put this would be. > > While we're at it, would it be possible to import IP Filter 3.4.3 > into the -current branch, for merge into -stable before 4.1 or 4.2? > This will bring IPv6 support into the "native" IP Filter packaged > with FreeBSD. I'm only looking at bringing it into -current at this stage. It would require testing before bringing into -stable, which I'd hope would also include bringing across the pfil(9) code - part of the merge into -current will be to use pfil(9) rather than the current IP Filter hacks in ip_input.c and ip_output.c. Currently, I've got 4.0 on my laptop with 3.4.x merged in and running, however, I was hoping there would be a -current snapshot that I could burn onto cd and load that up (don't you hate it when your network card becomes non-functional with an upgrade ?). The main thing I need to do is investigate how IP Filter has been setup to merge into the userland such that I can import it correctly. Once I'm comfortable in being able to do that merge, it should not be a biggie. Darren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 9:51:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from prism.flugsvamp.com (cb58709-a.mdsn1.wi.home.com [24.17.241.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A6B137B805; Sun, 21 May 2000 09:51:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jlemon@flugsvamp.com) Received: (from jlemon@localhost) by prism.flugsvamp.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA77483; Sun, 21 May 2000 11:55:38 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jlemon) Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 11:55:38 -0500 From: Jonathan Lemon To: Darren Reed Cc: Jonathan Lemon , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, ps@freebsd.org, Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca Subject: Re: 4.0_STABLE Broken (was Re: FTP proxy without translation no longer working? (fwd)) Message-ID: <20000521115538.E5468@prism.flugsvamp.com> References: <20000521102808.C5468@prism.flugsvamp.com> <200005211626.CAA12901@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <200005211626.CAA12901@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 02:26:50AM +1000, Darren Reed wrote: > [...] It would > appear that it needs some testing under -current and until it > works flawlessly there should not be brought into the -stable > branch. At least that is how the current "release engineering" > process works, right ? Well, that's essentially the way things should work. These changes were first tested in a private tree. Then they were brought into current, where they were pounded on for a while, until it appeared that there were no longer any problems. Then, they were merged into stable at the request of some -stable users. Now, it appears that it broke some semi-obscure feature of the kernel. Well, I'm sorry that our testing didn't catch this earlier, but that's life. Now, there are two ways to deal with this: 1. scream bloody murder, yank everything out of -stable, and try to get the problem fixed in -current, where it appears nobody runs IPFilter, or this problem would have been detected earlier, or: 2. make a constructive effort to solve the problem. Now, I have no major objections to pulling this out of -stable if required. However, before making any knee-jerk decisions, I'd like to see if we can't come up with simple patch that will fix the problem first. So can we dispense with the histronics and put our efforts into fixing the problem? -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 10: 5: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E62137B547 for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 10:04:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id KAA14917; Sun, 21 May 2000 10:04:47 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda14915; Sun May 21 10:04:43 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA00810; Sun, 21 May 2000 10:04:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdnqO808; Sun May 21 10:04:21 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.10.1/8.9.1) id e4LH4Lj00823; Sun, 21 May 2000 10:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200005211704.e4LH4Lj00823@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdGid819; Sun May 21 10:04:09 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-Sender: cy To: Chris Richards Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fall down, go BOOM In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 20 May 2000 02:04:10 EDT." <20000520020410.A306@student-00cdr.williams.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 10:04:09 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000520020410.A306@student-00cdr.williams.edu>, Chris Richards wri tes: > Minutes ago, I heard a sudden, brief surge in disk activity, and then > the machine froze. (No switching consoles, even, so if there was a > helpful message from the kernel I couldn't see it.) The only thing I > was doing was compiling a particular SML program, which I've done > plenty of times before. Relevant logs are appended. Does this look > like an out-of-memory situation? Can OOM cause processes to get a > SIGILL? [messages edited] Looks like you might have a hardware problem -- CPU, cache, or memory. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 10: 5:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from servo.ccr.org (servo.ccr.org [198.3.0.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD1E37B547; Sun, 21 May 2000 10:05:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mo@servo.ccr.org) Received: from servo.ccr.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by servo.ccr.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA01297; Sun, 21 May 2000 13:05:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mo@servo.ccr.org) Message-Id: <200005211705.NAA01297@servo.ccr.org> To: Jonathan Lemon Cc: Darren Reed , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ps@FreeBSD.ORG, Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca, mo@servo.ccr.org Subject: Re: 4.0_STABLE Broken (was Re: FTP proxy without translation no longer working? (fwd)) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 May 2000 11:55:38 CDT." <20000521115538.E5468@prism.flugsvamp.com> Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 13:05:36 -0400 From: "Mike O'Dell" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG please just unbreak what you broke and then fix it offline. the fact you didn't find it in testing is no reason to subject the world to this problem. IP filtering matters a great deal to some and they expect -stable to be just that - stable. yes, it's a shame there is no regression test suite to catch such problems, but that doesn't absolve you of retracting the change immediately to unbreak things. there are test suites out there which can and do find lots of problems in kernel development - i know - i ran a kernel development group and we did a kernel build and a full regression test *every* day, and you'd be amazed at the impact of some "trivial" changes. maybe one of the testing tool houses might volunteer to run their test suite on a regular basis and publish the results? at least do it as part of a release freeze? surely one of them would like the publicity.... -mo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 10: 9:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4374B37B547; Sun, 21 May 2000 10:09:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12tZDM-0007vH-00; Sun, 21 May 2000 19:08:32 +0200 Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 19:08:32 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Darren Reed Cc: Jonathan Lemon , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, ps@freebsd.org, Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca Subject: Re: 4.0_STABLE Broken (was Re: FTP proxy without translation no longer working? (fwd)) Message-ID: <20000521190831.A30246@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <20000521102808.C5468@prism.flugsvamp.com> <200005211626.CAA12901@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200005211626.CAA12901@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au>; from darrenr@reed.wattle.id.au on Mon, May 22, 2000 at 02:26:50AM +1000 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon 2000-05-22 (02:26), Darren Reed wrote: > Okay. So you want to play "pass the buck". Backing out that change > (which does not fix *any* bugs!) will "fix the problem". As it is, > you've introduced a _new feature_ to the _STABLE branch and broken > something. In my book, that's two crosses you've marked up: changes > to _STABLE must not break it and new features must be extensively > tested in -current before committing to a release branch. I agree. We have to test the change in -CURRENT before committing it to -STABLE, and thus it is probably the best move to try back it out, since it should be early enough for there not be too many conflicts. It's not at all obvious whether the move to -STABLE was in error - it may just be an indication of the lack of ipfilter users who happened to check out -CURRENT in the time it was in use. revision 1.131 date: 2000/03/27 19:14:21; author: jlemon; state: Exp; lines: +15 -4 Add support for offloading IP/TCP/UDP checksums to NIC hardware which revision 1.130.2.1 date: 2000/05/05 13:36:51; author: jlemon; state: Exp; lines: +15 -4 MFC: delayed checksum work. This also brings the mbuf size up to 256. It's taken 16 days to find the problem in -STABLE, and 55 days since it was added in -CURRENT for the problem to be seen. 40 days of no problems is generally considered sufficient. > Do you need any more ? I am given to understand that FreeBSD > doesn't have a very strict (read absent) release engineering > policy which allows for this sort of thing to happen. There haven't been much in the way of complaints. Creating a major stumbling block in the way of changes may cause more problems. Of course, if it becomes obvious that there is an out-of-hand problem, it should be re-evaluated. A suggestion may be for you, and others, to create regression tests for your subsystems that should be checked in the case of commits to your general area. If you don't place reminders that your code may be affected, it's going to be forgotten. It certainly didn't show up in the 40 days of the checksumming code in -CURRENT. > Jordan, if you're reading this, you should give some *serious* > thought to setting up a proper release engineering team - they > should be dealing with this, not me and Jonathan directly pissing > on each other. Allowing the "unwashed" (i.e. committers) to commit > to released and stable branches is an invitation for disaster, IMHO. I doubt a "release engineering team" will be any better at finding problems in code that received no complaints in the 40 or so days it was in -CURRENT. A release engineering team will require regression tests, though. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 10:14:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1EB37B547 for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 10:14:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11633; Sun, 21 May 2000 10:14:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200005211714.KAA11633@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: make world & make.conf In-Reply-To: <200005210826.LAA10743@Thing-Fish.Kharkov.NET> from Gregory Edigaroff at "May 21, 0 11:26:14 am" To: greg@Thing-Fish.Kharkov.NET (Gregory Edigaroff) Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 10:14:33 -0700 (MST) Cc: cjohnson@palomine.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Gregory Edigaroff wrote: > BUT! It does not pay any attention to some other things I've turned > on or off in make.conf, as well. > I wonder what's going wrong... Thought about checking the access time on the file before and after a make? /bin/ls -lTu /etc/make.conf -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 11:59:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rock.ghis.net (rock.ghis.net [209.222.164.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB8237B7F5 for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 11:59:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@blackdawn.com) Received: from argon.blackdawn.com ([209.69.77.66]) by rock.ghis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA39729; Sun, 21 May 2000 11:59:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by argon.blackdawn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4DDE71996; Sun, 21 May 2000 14:58:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 14:58:50 -0400 From: Will Andrews To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: Will Andrews , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 Message-ID: <20000521145850.B96325@argon.blackdawn.com> References: <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200005160032.KAA09256@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au> <20000516084052.A12672@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> <20000516195819.J233@parish> <20000517034754.D89671@argon.blackdawn.com> <3927BED3.50764886@newsguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3927BED3.50764886@newsguy.com>; from dcs@newsguy.com on Sun, May 21, 2000 at 07:47:47PM +0900 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 21, 2000 at 07:47:47PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > 1) If it has 200-250 days uptimes, it can't be often. :-) Sure it could, if it's been here for nearly five years. > 2) It is a _known fact_ that W95 hangs after about 48 days. That uptime > of yours can't be right. Only certain versions of Win95. Probably the one I had was fixed (it is now running Win98). -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 12:17:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4887437B5C9; Sun, 21 May 2000 12:17:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02829; Sun, 21 May 2000 12:19:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Jonathan Lemon Cc: Darren Reed , jlemon@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ps@FreeBSD.ORG, Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca Subject: Re: FTP proxy without translation no longer working? (fwd) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 May 2000 10:28:08 CDT." <20000521102808.C5468@prism.flugsvamp.com> Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 12:19:39 -0700 Message-ID: <2826.958936779@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Well, instead of backing the changes out, how about we fix the problem > instead? I'm not familiar with IPFilter, but I know that there were > some initial problems with ipfw, perhaps the problems here are similar. If you can fix the problem quickly then that's fine, but they should be backed out by tomorrow if not since this is the -stable branch we're talking about and people aren't SUPPOSED to break stuff in -stable, period. Work the changes out in a private tree or in -current, but -stable is not a work-in-progress place, it's for finished works which function fully. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 12:19:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED09E37B5C9; Sun, 21 May 2000 12:19:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02845; Sun, 21 May 2000 12:21:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Darren Reed Cc: jlemon@flugsvamp.com (Jonathan Lemon), freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ps@FreeBSD.ORG, Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca Subject: Re: 4.0_STABLE Broken (was Re: FTP proxy without translation no longer working? (fwd)) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 May 2000 02:26:50 +1000." <200005211626.CAA12901@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au> Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 12:21:31 -0700 Message-ID: <2842.958936891@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Do you need any more ? I am given to understand that FreeBSD > doesn't have a very strict (read absent) release engineering > policy which allows for this sort of thing to happen. The change This statement doesn't even make sense. Please reserve your comments for areas that you understand; we'll all be happier. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 12:20:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FDBD37B890; Sun, 21 May 2000 12:20:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02859; Sun, 21 May 2000 12:22:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Jonathan Lemon Cc: Darren Reed , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ps@FreeBSD.ORG, Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca Subject: Re: 4.0_STABLE Broken (was Re: FTP proxy without translation no longer working? (fwd)) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 May 2000 11:55:38 CDT." <20000521115538.E5468@prism.flugsvamp.com> Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 12:22:54 -0700 Message-ID: <2856.958936974@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > 1. scream bloody murder, yank everything out of -stable, > and try to get the problem fixed in -current, where it > appears nobody runs IPFilter, or this problem would have > been detected earlier, or: > > 2. make a constructive effort to solve the problem. This synopsis has now convinced me that we need to yank it out of -stable. It's not a "knee jerk" decision at all, it's simply a reflection of standing policy. Please back it out. Thanks. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 12:34: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1928E37B5C9; Sun, 21 May 2000 12:34:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E8BAD1C4D; Sun, 21 May 2000 15:33:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 15:33:58 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Jonathan Lemon , Darren Reed , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ps@FreeBSD.ORG, Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca Subject: Re: 4.0_STABLE Broken (was Re: FTP proxy without translation no longer working? (fwd)) Message-ID: <20000521153358.R86725@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <20000521115538.E5468@prism.flugsvamp.com> <2856.958936974@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <2856.958936974@localhost>; from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com on Sun, May 21, 2000 at 12:22:54PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 21, 2000 at 12:22:54PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > This synopsis has now convinced me that we need to yank it out of > -stable. It's not a "knee jerk" decision at all, it's simply a > reflection of standing policy. Please back it out. Thanks. Should this be the policy when we find a bug in vinum or pkg_*, for example? This is an odd mixture of options thats causing the problem, not something breaking everyones machine. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect / Computer Horizons Corp - CVM e-mail: billf@chc-chimes.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 12:36:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2FDB37B7E4; Sun, 21 May 2000 12:36:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02992; Sun, 21 May 2000 12:38:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Bill Fumerola Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Jonathan Lemon , Darren Reed , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ps@FreeBSD.ORG, Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca Subject: Re: 4.0_STABLE Broken (was Re: FTP proxy without translation no longer working? (fwd)) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 May 2000 15:33:58 EDT." <20000521153358.R86725@jade.chc-chimes.com> Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 12:38:23 -0700 Message-ID: <2989.958937903@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Should this be the policy when we find a bug in vinum or pkg_*, > for example? If it was just *introduced*, yes. -stable is not supposed to go backwards in the stability dept. > This is an odd mixture of options thats causing the problem, > not something breaking everyones machine. All the best bugs are like this. That doesn't stop them from being bugs. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 12:51:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 451BB37B917; Sun, 21 May 2000 12:51:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id MAA15296; Sun, 21 May 2000 12:50:12 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda15290; Sun May 21 12:49:59 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA01581; Sun, 21 May 2000 12:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdPh1579; Sun May 21 12:49:10 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.10.1/8.9.1) id e4LJn9q00739; Sun, 21 May 2000 12:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200005211949.e4LJn9q00739@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdmsO726; Sun May 21 12:48:09 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-Sender: cy To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Jonathan Lemon , Darren Reed , jlemon@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ps@FreeBSD.ORG, Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca Subject: Re: FTP proxy without translation no longer working? (fwd) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 May 2000 12:19:39 PDT." <2826.958936779@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 12:48:08 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <2826.958936779@localhost>, "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: > > Well, instead of backing the changes out, how about we fix the problem > > instead? I'm not familiar with IPFilter, but I know that there were > > some initial problems with ipfw, perhaps the problems here are similar. > > If you can fix the problem quickly then that's fine, but they should > be backed out by tomorrow if not since this is the -stable branch > we're talking about and people aren't SUPPOSED to break stuff in > -stable, period. Work the changes out in a private tree or in > -current, but -stable is not a work-in-progress place, it's for > finished works which function fully. Not that this should make any difference in the the ongoing discussion: Jonathan has sent me a patch. It fixes the problem. I have responded to him with feedback. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 14:24:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C57237B5E2 for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 14:24:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.232]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Sun, 21 May 2000 14:24:58 -0700 Message-ID: <39285414.C65411A3@3-cities.com> Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 14:24:36 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Will Andrews Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 References: <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200005160032.KAA09256@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au> <20000516084052.A12672@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> <20000516195819.J233@parish> <20000517034754.D89671@argon.blackdawn.com> <3927BED3.50764886@newsguy.com> <20000521145850.B96325@argon.blackdawn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Will Andrews wrote: > > On Sun, May 21, 2000 at 07:47:47PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > > 1) If it has 200-250 days uptimes, it can't be often. :-) > > Sure it could, if it's been here for nearly five years. > > > 2) It is a _known fact_ that W95 hangs after about 48 days. That uptime > > of yours can't be right. > > Only certain versions of Win95. Probably the one I had was fixed (it is > now running Win98). I never had that problem either and my machines were always left on. Each one had hardware that was shared across the network. You also can't access your support files from the network if they are turned off. I wondered at times if it was what you had installed. The system at work and at home were 950a's. There were features I didn't turn on. I never beta tested 98 so I didn't see it until the release. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 14:35:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zipcode.corp.home.net (zipcode.corp.home.net [24.0.26.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861DE37B54B for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 14:35:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from manek@ecst.csuchico.edu) Received: from after (shiva-user23.corp.home.net [24.0.8.153]) by zipcode.corp.home.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA07422 for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 14:35:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "Sameer R. Manek" To: Subject: AAA-UDMA support? Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 14:34:47 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone know if someone is writing support for Adaptec's AAA-UDMA? I don't see it listed in http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install-hw.html Or is there support for any other ide based raid controller? A cheap raid array would be nice for home, given the cost 40gb ide disks. Sameer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 14:41:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from prism.flugsvamp.com (cb58709-a.mdsn1.wi.home.com [24.17.241.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1AC37B54B; Sun, 21 May 2000 14:41:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jlemon@flugsvamp.com) Received: (from jlemon@localhost) by prism.flugsvamp.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01049; Sun, 21 May 2000 16:45:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jlemon) Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 16:45:47 -0500 From: Jonathan Lemon To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Jonathan Lemon , Darren Reed , jlemon@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ps@FreeBSD.ORG, Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca Subject: Re: FTP proxy without translation no longer working? (fwd) Message-ID: <20000521164547.H5468@prism.flugsvamp.com> References: <20000521102808.C5468@prism.flugsvamp.com> <2826.958936779@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <2826.958936779@localhost> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 21, 2000 at 12:19:39PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Well, instead of backing the changes out, how about we fix the problem > > instead? I'm not familiar with IPFilter, but I know that there were > > some initial problems with ipfw, perhaps the problems here are similar. > > If you can fix the problem quickly then that's fine, but they should > be backed out by tomorrow if not since this is the -stable branch > we're talking about and people aren't SUPPOSED to break stuff in > -stable, period. I agree. I've just committed a fix for this to -stable. -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 14:56: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C8237B9B4 for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 14:55:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@aaaaaaaa.demon.co.uk) Received: from aaaaaaaa.demon.co.uk ([158.152.178.85]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12tdhL-0009V7-0W for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 21 May 2000 22:55:48 +0100 Received: (from andrew@localhost) by aaaaaaaa.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) id WAA26472; Sun, 21 May 2000 22:55:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from andrew) From: Andrew Wilson Message-Id: <200005212155.WAA26472@aaaaaaaa.demon.co.uk> Subject: Make world fails on latest 2.2.8... To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 21 May 100 22:55:56 +0100 (BST) Cc: andrew@aaaaaaaa.demon.co.uk (Andrew Wilson) Reply-To: Andrew.Wilson@cs.cf.ac.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, sorry if this seems like a trip back in time. Today I cvsup'd 2.2.8-stable and ran make world. It croaked while compiling bin/ed: [snip] ===> bin/ed cc -nostdinc -O -I/usr/obj/b/andrew/CVSUP-2.2/src/tmp/usr/include -c /b/andrew /CVSUP-2.2/src/bin/ed/buf.c cc -nostdinc -O -I/usr/obj/b/andrew/CVSUP-2.2/src/tmp/usr/include -c /b/andrew /CVSUP-2.2/src/bin/ed/cbc.c cc -nostdinc -O -I/usr/obj/b/andrew/CVSUP-2.2/src/tmp/usr/include -c /b/andrew /CVSUP-2.2/src/bin/ed/glbl.c cc -nostdinc -O -I/usr/obj/b/andrew/CVSUP-2.2/src/tmp/usr/include -c /b/andrew /CVSUP-2.2/src/bin/ed/io.c cc -nostdinc -O -I/usr/obj/b/andrew/CVSUP-2.2/src/tmp/usr/include -c /b/andrew /CVSUP-2.2/src/bin/ed/main.c cc -nostdinc -O -I/usr/obj/b/andrew/CVSUP-2.2/src/tmp/usr/include -c /b/andrew /CVSUP-2.2/src/bin/ed/re.c cc -nostdinc -O -I/usr/obj/b/andrew/CVSUP-2.2/src/tmp/usr/include -c /b/andrew /CVSUP-2.2/src/bin/ed/sub.c cc -nostdinc -O -I/usr/obj/b/andrew/CVSUP-2.2/src/tmp/usr/include -c /b/andrew /CVSUP-2.2/src/bin/ed/undo.c cc -nostdinc -O -I/usr/obj/b/andrew/CVSUP-2.2/src/tmp/usr/include -static -o ed buf.o cbc.o glbl.o io.o main.o re.o sub.o undo.o main.o: Undefined symbol `_strlcpy' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 Stop. I tried 'make clean' and then 'make world' again. No joy. Upgrading the machine to 4x is not currently an option. Anyone know what I've done wrong? Cheers, Ay. Andrew.Wilson@cs.cf.ac.uk http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/User/Andrew.Wilson/ Voice/Fax: +44 (0) 1865 513 091 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 15: 2: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (adsl-63-206-88-224.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.206.88.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E2037B6E2 for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 15:01:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01299; Sun, 21 May 2000 15:03:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200005212203.PAA01299@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Sameer R. Manek" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AAA-UDMA support? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 May 2000 14:34:47 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 15:03:30 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Does anyone know if someone is writing support for Adaptec's AAA-UDMA? I > don't see it listed in http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install-hw.html Not at this time. I'm trying to get Adaptec to give me documentation so that we can provide support for this adapter. > Or is there support for any other ide based raid controller? A cheap raid > array would be nice for home, given the cost 40gb ide disks. Check http://people.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID - the 3ware controllers are cheap and perform quite well. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 15:38:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from barracuda.aquarium.rtci.com (barracuda.aquarium.rtci.com [208.11.247.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DBCD37B88F for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 15:38:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tstromberg@rtci.com) Received: from barracuda (barracuda [208.11.247.5]) by barracuda.aquarium.rtci.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA11625 for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 18:38:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 18:38:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Stromberg X-Sender: tstromberg@barracuda.aquarium.rtci.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.0_STABLE Broken (was Re: FTP proxy without translation no longer working? (fwd)) In-Reply-To: <20000521190831.A30246@mithrandr.moria.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Mon 2000-05-22 (02:26), Darren Reed wrote: > > Okay. So you want to play "pass the buck". Backing out that change > > (which does not fix *any* bugs!) will "fix the problem". As it is, > > you've introduced a _new feature_ to the _STABLE branch and broken > > something. In my book, that's two crosses you've marked up: changes > > to _STABLE must not break it and new features must be extensively > > tested in -current before committing to a release branch. > > I agree. We have to test the change in -CURRENT before committing it to > -STABLE, and thus it is probably the best move to try back it out, since > it should be early enough for there not be too many conflicts. It's not > at all obvious whether the move to -STABLE was in error - it may just be > an indication of the lack of ipfilter users who happened to check out > -CURRENT in the time it was in use. > While I do use it under -CURRENT, I think this bug was a little hard to catch because typically people who deploy ipfilter as a full gateway (with FTP Proxying), use -STABLE, since it's pretty important to them getting on the net. BTW, is anyone looking at bringing ipfilter up to 3.3.13 in FreeBSD? A lot of good hotfixes are in there. I'm not sure if ipfilter 3.4.X has been banged at enough to MFC it for quite a while though. Lest we reproduce breakages like the one above :) Can't always find everything in testing :) --happy user of ipfilter for the last two years. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Thomas R. Stromberg Senior Systems Administrator : > smtp[tstromberg@rtci.com] Research Triangle Commerce, Inc. : > http[afterthought.org] pots[1.919.657.1317] : > irc[helixblue] FreeBSD Contributor, Perl Hacker : ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 17: 9:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from beta.chem.msu.ru (beta.chem.msu.ru [195.208.208.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A4D37B98F for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 17:09:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vvd@fds.chem.msu.ru) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by beta.chem.msu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id EAA08703 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 May 2000 04:09:18 +0400 (MSD) Received: from vvd.hostel.ru ([200.0.0.14]) by fds.chem.msu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA31384 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 01:02:10 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from vvd@fds.chem.msu.ru) Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 22:58:26 +0400 From: VVD X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.41) Reply-To: VVD Organization: Hackers X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <2957.000521@fds.chem.msu.ru> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG freebsd-stable SUBSCRIBE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 18:21:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC0537BA6D; Sun, 21 May 2000 18:21:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA03737; Sun, 21 May 2000 18:23:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Jonathan Lemon Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Darren Reed , jlemon@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ps@FreeBSD.ORG, Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca Subject: Re: FTP proxy without translation no longer working? (fwd) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 May 2000 16:45:47 CDT." <20000521164547.H5468@prism.flugsvamp.com> Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 18:23:53 -0700 Message-ID: <3734.958958633@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > If you can fix the problem quickly then that's fine, but they should > > be backed out by tomorrow if not since this is the -stable branch > > we're talking about and people aren't SUPPOSED to break stuff in > > -stable, period. > > I agree. I've just committed a fix for this to -stable. OK, glad to hear that, obviously it makes a back-out unnecessary now so you can ignore my previous calls to do that. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 18:40:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CCCE37B509; Sun, 21 May 2000 18:40:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA87791; Sun, 21 May 2000 18:40:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 18:40:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Andrew.Wilson@cs.cf.ac.uk Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Andrew Wilson , Josef Karthauser Subject: Re: Make world fails on latest 2.2.8... In-Reply-To: <200005212155.WAA26472@aaaaaaaa.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 21 May 100, Andrew Wilson wrote: > sorry if this seems like a trip back in time. Today I cvsup'd > 2.2.8-stable and ran make world. It croaked while compiling bin/ed: I think this was an overenthusiastic commit by Joe Karthauser (strlcpy() doesnt exist in 2.x) Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 19:35:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20BF237B54B for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 19:35:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [204.138.57.194]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4F6137FCD for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 22:35:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA68155; Sun, 21 May 2000 22:35:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14632.40173.599097.218355@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 22:35:25 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 1 world broken and one request. X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG First the request: would it be possible (to pander to those of us who use LPRng) to make the /usr/src/*/lp* build optional a-la sendmail? This would save me some hassles. The make work is breaking for me in the middle of the openssh build. I CVSup'd tonight, too. It's dying looking for OPIE_HASHNAME_MAX ... which I can't find in any .h's. What's up? cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c -o auth-skey.o /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c: In function `auth_skey_password': /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c:20: warning: initialization makes pointer from integer without a cast /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c: In function `skey_fake_keyinfo': /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c:160: `OPIE_HASHNAME_MAX' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c:160: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c:160: for each function it appears in.) Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 19:56:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1323F37BAD1; Sun, 21 May 2000 19:56:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@billy-club.village.org) Received: from billy-club.village.org (billy-club.village.org [10.0.0.3]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA04108; Sun, 21 May 2000 20:56:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@billy-club.village.org) Received: from billy-club.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by billy-club.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id UAA66487; Sun, 21 May 2000 20:56:07 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200005220256.UAA66487@billy-club.village.org> To: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Make world fails on latest 2.2.8... Cc: Andrew.Wilson@cs.cf.ac.uk, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Andrew Wilson , Josef Karthauser In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 May 2000 18:40:14 PDT." References: Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 20:56:07 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Kris Kennaway writes: : On Sun, 21 May 100, Andrew Wilson wrote: : : > sorry if this seems like a trip back in time. Today I cvsup'd : > 2.2.8-stable and ran make world. It croaked while compiling bin/ed: : : I think this was an overenthusiastic commit by Joe Karthauser (strlcpy() : doesnt exist in 2.x) Has this been reverted yet? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 19:59:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B2237BAFF for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 19:59:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@billy-club.village.org) Received: from billy-club.village.org (billy-club.village.org [10.0.0.3]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA04122; Sun, 21 May 2000 20:59:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@billy-club.village.org) Received: from billy-club.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by billy-club.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id UAA66500; Sun, 21 May 2000 20:58:51 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200005220258.UAA66500@billy-club.village.org> To: Kent Stewart Subject: Re: occasional reboots Cc: "Mike C. Muir" , Sebastien ROCHE , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 May 2000 01:08:48 PDT." <39279990.E563CC45@3-cities.com> References: <39279990.E563CC45@3-cities.com> <3925B5E2.6C3828FF@3-cities.com> <200005202226.QAA54658@billy-club.village.org> Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 20:58:51 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <39279990.E563CC45@3-cities.com> Kent Stewart writes: : One of the old Fijitsu 1GB scsi drives had an air flow requirement of : so many feet/second of air flow. The fan died and the drive case metal : turned blue just before the drive died. I never thought of an HD : getting that hot. I am not sure what got hotter the HD or the Celeron. Try to put too much power backwards through a mosfet. I turned mine into a light emitting mosfet by doing this on the I-Opener... Now, to find time to surface mount the new mosfet and to set to see if I blew any of the others out... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 20: 2:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9809837BBB5; Sun, 21 May 2000 20:02:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA31298; Sun, 21 May 2000 20:02:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 20:02:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Warner Losh Cc: Andrew.Wilson@cs.cf.ac.uk, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Andrew Wilson , Josef Karthauser Subject: Re: Make world fails on latest 2.2.8... In-Reply-To: <200005220256.UAA66487@billy-club.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 21 May 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > : I think this was an overenthusiastic commit by Joe Karthauser (strlcpy() > : doesnt exist in 2.x) > > Has this been reverted yet? No, it's only been a few hours since it was discovered. Give Joe some time to correct the mistake.. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 21:53:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ct.home.com [24.2.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF5437BAFF for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 21:53:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marvined@home.com) Received: from ABIT300A2K ([24.2.147.8]) by mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP id <20000522045351.TQAT18096.mail.rdc1.ct.home.com@ABIT300A2K> for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 21:53:51 -0700 Message-ID: <000a01bfc40e$807c4fc0$08930218@ABIT300A2K> From: "Marvin N. 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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFC3EC.F9321390-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 22:21:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jason.argos.org (a1-3b058.neo.rr.com [24.93.181.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7EB937B7AB for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 22:21:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@argos.org) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by jason.argos.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA04885; Mon, 22 May 2000 01:21:23 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 01:21:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Nowlin To: Warner Losh Cc: Kent Stewart , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: occasional reboots In-Reply-To: <200005220258.UAA66500@billy-club.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > : One of the old Fijitsu 1GB scsi drives had an air flow requirement of > : so many feet/second of air flow. The fan died and the drive case metal > : turned blue just before the drive died. I never thought of an HD > : getting that hot. I am not sure what got hotter the HD or the Celeron. > > Try to put too much power backwards through a mosfet. I turned mine > into a light emitting mosfet by doing this on the I-Opener... > Whoops! I have a few DEC RZ26's and RZ28's (1 & 2 GB SCSI) here that, without enough air flow across them, get hot enough to actually create blisters. (Usually on my right index finger.) Discovered that I can strap an old 486 heatsink/fan to the top of them, and that REALLY helps cool them down. Just have to grind off the little "lips" that drop down over the sides of the CPU so that you get full-surface contact of the heat sink. mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 22:27:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE12E37B7AB for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 22:27:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@billy-club.village.org) Received: from billy-club.village.org (billy-club.village.org [10.0.0.3]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA04606; Sun, 21 May 2000 23:27:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@billy-club.village.org) Received: from billy-club.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by billy-club.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA67566; Sun, 21 May 2000 23:26:52 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200005220526.XAA67566@billy-club.village.org> To: Mike Nowlin Subject: Re: occasional reboots Cc: Kent Stewart , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 May 2000 01:21:23 EDT." References: Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 23:26:52 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Mike Nowlin writes: : (Usually on my right index finger.) Discovered that I can strap an old : 486 heatsink/fan to the top of them, and that REALLY helps cool them down. : Just have to grind off the little "lips" that drop down over the sides of : the CPU so that you get full-surface contact of the heat sink. Hmmm. The pentium CPU fans that I've seen don't have the lip on them anymore. Might make your job easier in the future if you need to cool the drives. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 23:31:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zipcode.corp.home.net (zipcode.corp.home.net [24.0.26.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC0B37BB1B for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 23:31:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from manek@ecst.csuchico.edu) Received: from after (shiva-user23.corp.home.net [24.0.8.153]) by zipcode.corp.home.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA25679; Sun, 21 May 2000 23:27:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "Sameer R. Manek" To: "Warner Losh" , "Kent Stewart" Cc: "Mike C. Muir" , "Sebastien ROCHE" , Subject: RE: occasional reboots Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 23:26:59 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: <200005220258.UAA66500@billy-club.village.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Warner Losh This thread is no longer related to freebsd, please take it to private email. We've all got stories of toasting hardware due to excess current or heat. Thanks Sameer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 23:38:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from BSDpc.geek4food.org (adsl-216-103-105-71.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.103.105.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF26137B974 for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 23:38:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@geek4food.org) Received: from mega.geek4food.org (mega.geek4food.org [192.168.1.57]) by BSDpc.geek4food.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE2E6C8 for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 23:38:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mega.geek4food.org (localhost.geek4food.org [127.0.0.1]) by mega.geek4food.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA93206 for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 23:38:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@geek4food.org) Message-Id: <200005220638.XAA93206@mega.geek4food.org> To: stable@freeBSD.ORG Subject: Weird rodent behaviour Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 23:38:33 -0700 From: Andy Sparrow Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -------- Hi, A recent thread on -STABLE prompted me to type up the following description of oddities I've been noticing with my mouse under 4.0-STABLE: I've been using a Logitech Marble FX for 18 months now - it used to be directly plugged into my "main" machine. It wasn't correctly recognised by the psm driver (which used to report a MouseMan+, IIRC), but it worked well enough - modulo some odd behaviour when scrolling down the 'VT Options' menu in Xterm using Ctrl-"Real Middle Button" (looked like it was seeing lots of spurious "button-up/button-down" events, but I never really worried about it too much). However, the "middle" button (this guy has 4 buttons) worked fine for 'paste' operations in both syscons and X (3.3.6, mouse is sysmouse) until I recently supped -STABLE (4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Wed Apr 26 14:33:22 PDT 2000), at which point I noticed that I now have to "chord" the 1st and 3rd buttons to get the "middle" button (this is an SMP kernel, just in case that has any relevance). The mouse is now /much/ less responsive than it used to be - press events are often missed, rubber-banding is prone to weird behaviour, it just generally feels much less "snappy" than it used to - just moving windows around feels "laggy". Even more recently (last w/e), I added a Linksys 4 port KVM switch, and took the M$ mouse off another machine and plugged it into the KVM. I now notice that: * The KVM switch seems to prevent the mouse being detected correctly, psm "sees" only a generic PS/2 mouse on both machines - dmesg says: psm0: failed to get data. psm0 irq 12 on isa psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 on both machines. * A kernel/world, 3.4-STABLE from Apr 2nd seems to work fine still. The mouse is as "snappy" as I recall, and the "centre" button works fine, in both syscons and X. The only difference is that one machine is running 4.0-STABLE. When both were running 3.4-STABLE, they both worked fine. Any comments? I notice that the 'psm' driver has changed a fair bit recently, and obviously this has changed the behaviour for this mouse. Unfortunately, the code looks like it contains many chicken entrails ;-O - anything I can do to help improve the support for this mouse? Cheers, AS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 23:51:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576D937BB67 for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 23:51:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA19378; Sun, 21 May 2000 23:50:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <3928D8B8.C462E155@gorean.org> Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 23:50:32 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0508 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gregory Edigaroff Cc: cjohnson@palomine.net, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make world & make.conf References: <200005210826.LAA10743@Thing-Fish.Kharkov.NET> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gregory Edigaroff wrote: > OK! It's 'bout sendmail. > BUT! It does not pay any attention to some other things I've turned > on or off in make.conf, as well. > I wonder what's going wrong... Impossible to say without knowing what you've tried to do. Unfortunately, some of the knobs in make.conf are not 100% obvious as to how they enable and disable features. Good luck, Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 0: 0:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804D837BB77; Mon, 22 May 2000 00:00:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19543; Mon, 22 May 2000 00:00:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <3928DB11.A18443B0@gorean.org> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 00:00:33 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0508 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jaye Mathisen Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS problems on 4.0-stable. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jaye Mathisen wrote: > > UDP v2 mounts, Netapp Filer. > > Getting a fair # of: > got bad cookie vp 0xd24bf1c0 bp 0xc9090500 > got bad cookie vp 0xd24bfda0 bp 0xc906ceb0 > > on the console, and it seems to lock the machine up for several minutes > when it does. Then it comes back to life, and cranks for a while... > > Not sure where to even start. Start with not using nfs v2. :) I use the following options in /etc/fstab to mount my netapp stuff from FreeBSD 4.0-Stable clients. If you're not already using 4.0, fix that first. netapp:/blah /local/mountpoint nfs rw,bg,soft,intr,nfsv3,rdirplus,mntudp,noconn I've never seen the errors above, and the options I'm using are the result of lots of performance testing. HTH, Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 0:11:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A88437BB77 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 00:11:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:MMFDVkWWlYZAvCSXDtPXHViSD9uK3Onk@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7Wpl2) with ESMTP id QAA28030; Mon, 22 May 2000 16:11:22 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:u5eJvBvYrYiOl/+4pCOS9f0CDpWWXtAl@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W/zodiac-May2000) with ESMTP id QAA16478; Mon, 22 May 2000 16:18:07 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200005220718.QAA16478@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: Andy Sparrow Cc: stable@freeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: Weird rodent behaviour In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 May 2000 23:38:33 MST." <200005220638.XAA93206@mega.geek4food.org> References: <200005220638.XAA93206@mega.geek4food.org> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 16:18:06 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >A recent thread on -STABLE prompted me to type up the following >description of oddities I've been noticing with my mouse under 4.0-STABLE: > >I've been using a Logitech Marble FX for 18 months now - it used to be directl >y >plugged into my "main" machine. It wasn't correctly recognised by the psm driv >er >(which used to report a MouseMan+, IIRC), but it worked well enough - modulo It IS detected correctly :-) As far as the mouse firmware is concerned, Logitech Marble FX uses the PS/2++ protocol which is the Logitech's proprietary protocol since MouseMan+/FirstMouse+. Marble FX and MouseMan+ are software compatible and the mouse driver does not need to distinguish the two. >some odd behaviour when scrolling down the 'VT Options' menu in Xterm using >Ctrl-"Real Middle Button" (looked like it was seeing lots of spurious >"button-up/button-down" events, but I never really worried about it too much). > >However, the "middle" button (this guy has 4 buttons) worked fine for 'paste' >operations in both syscons and X (3.3.6, mouse is sysmouse) until I recently >supped -STABLE (4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Wed Apr 26 14:33:22 PDT 2000 >), >at which point I noticed that I now have to "chord" the 1st and 3rd buttons to > >get the "middle" button (this is an SMP kernel, just in case that has any >relevance). This is strange. I would like to see your mouse settings in /etc/rc.conf and XF86Config. I also would like you to give "boot -v" at the boot loader prompt and send me /var/run/dmesg.boot after the system is started. (Do not use a KVM when you do this please.) >The mouse is now /much/ less responsive than it used to be - press events are >often missed, rubber-banding is prone to weird behaviour, it just generally fe >els >much less "snappy" than it used to - just moving windows around feels "laggy". If you add "-3" option for moused (in moused_flags in /etc/rc.conf), you may need to tweak the 3-button emulation timeout in the "-E" option as well. But, as Marble FX does have the middle button, you shouldn't need to use the "-3" option in the first place. Are you absolutely sure that the middle button suddenly became inoperable? >Even more recently (last w/e), I added a Linksys 4 port KVM switch, and took >the M$ mouse off another machine and plugged it into the KVM. > >I now notice that: > >* The KVM switch seems to prevent the mouse being detected correctly, psm "see >s" > only a generic PS/2 mouse on both machines - dmesg says: > > psm0: failed to get data. > psm0 irq 12 on isa > psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 I don't know which M$ mouse model you are using. But, if it is a 2-button model, without a wheel, the above message is correct. The 2-button MS mouse is very "generic" :-) The psm driver cannot distinguish every single mouse model on the market. There are too many of them. It only detects and distinguishes as many models and protocols as it needs to know to operate the mouse correctly. If this MS mouse is IntelliMouse (it has a wheel), then your KVM is not compatible with IntelliMouse and the psm driver cannot do anything about it ;-< Kazu > on both machines. > >* A kernel/world, 3.4-STABLE from Apr 2nd seems to work fine still. The > mouse is as "snappy" as I recall, and the "centre" button works fine, in bo >th > syscons and X. > >The only difference is that one machine is running 4.0-STABLE. When both were >running 3.4-STABLE, they both worked fine. > >Any comments? I notice that the 'psm' driver has changed a fair bit recently, >and obviously this has changed the behaviour for this mouse. Unfortunately, th >e >code looks like it contains many chicken entrails ;-O - anything I can do to >help improve the support for this mouse? > >Cheers, To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 0:26:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bsf.alcatel.fr (laposte.bsf.alcatel.fr [193.104.128.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC7D637B54A for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 00:26:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sr@sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr) Received: from mail (sikkim.sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr [155.132.20.1]) by bsf.alcatel.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07502; Mon, 22 May 2000 09:33:44 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from piano by mail (8.8.8+Sun/ABS1.4) id JAA03423; Mon, 22 May 2000 09:25:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from charles by piano (8.8.8+Sun/ABS1.5) id JAA10889; Mon, 22 May 2000 09:25:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr by charles (8.8.8+Sun/ABS1.5) id JAA18683; Mon, 22 May 2000 09:25:28 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3928E0E6.FEE60088@sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 09:25:26 +0200 From: Sebastien ROCHE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: Chris Richards , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fall down, go BOOM References: <200005211704.e4LH4Lj00823@cwsys.cwsent.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------FFE3C69CBBFCE38E9E3124CE" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --------------FFE3C69CBBFCE38E9E3124CE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Couldn't it be due to a lack of available processes (the limit is related to the maximum users allowed) ? Seb Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > In message <20000520020410.A306@student-00cdr.williams.edu>, Chris > Richards wri > tes: > > Minutes ago, I heard a sudden, brief surge in disk activity, and then > > the machine froze. (No switching consoles, even, so if there was a > > helpful message from the kernel I couldn't see it.) The only thing I > > was doing was compiling a particular SML program, which I've done > > plenty of times before. Relevant logs are appended. Does this look > > like an out-of-memory situation? Can OOM cause processes to get a > > SIGILL? > [messages edited] > > Looks like you might have a hardware problem -- CPU, cache, or memory. > > Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 > Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 > Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca > Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA > Province of BC > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Sebastien ROCHE , Software Engineer ATLINKS 1 , rte Albert Schweitzer 67408 ILLKIRCH CEDEX Tel: 03 90 67 67 90 , poste 74042 Email : sr@sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr --------------FFE3C69CBBFCE38E9E3124CE Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  
Couldn't it be due to a lack of available processes (the limit is related to the maximum users allowed) ?

Seb
 
 

Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote:

In message <20000520020410.A306@student-00cdr.williams.edu>, Chris
Richards wri
tes:
> Minutes ago, I heard a sudden, brief surge in disk activity, and then
> the machine froze.  (No switching consoles, even, so if there was a
> helpful message from the kernel I couldn't see it.)  The only thing I
> was doing was compiling a particular SML program, which I've done
> plenty of times before.  Relevant logs are appended.  Does this look
> like an out-of-memory situation?  Can OOM cause processes to get a
> SIGILL?
[messages edited]

Looks like you might have a hardware problem -- CPU, cache, or memory.

Regards,                       Phone:  (250)387-8437
Cy Schubert                      Fax:  (250)387-5766
Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team   Internet:  Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca
Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA
Province of BC

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  --------------FFE3C69CBBFCE38E9E3124CE-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 0:34:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E3B937B54A for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 00:34:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (doconnor@cain [203.38.152.97]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12217; Mon, 22 May 2000 07:31:21 GMT (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3928E0E6.FEE60088@sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 17:01:21 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Sebastien ROCHE Subject: Re: Fall down, go BOOM Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Chris Richards , Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 22-May-00 Sebastien ROCHE wrote: > Couldn't it be due to a lack of available processes (the limit is related > to the maximum users allowed) ? Your computer won't crash in this case.. You will just find lots of things dying as they try and fork(). --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 0:51:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F10F37B6BC for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 00:51:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michel@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.10.0/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id e4M7p4951650 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 09:51:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr ([134.157.10.102]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id JAA25944 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 09:50:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from michel@localhost) by rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00453 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 22 May 2000 09:51:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from michel) Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 09:51:03 +0200 From: Michel Talon To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Weird rodent behaviour Message-ID: <20000522095103.B408@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200005220638.XAA93206@mega.geek4food.org> <200005220718.QAA16478@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <200005220718.QAA16478@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just a comment, for me since a recent cvsup, the mouse works much better on my laptop. It has only 2 buttons and previously it was very difficult to paste by combination of the 2 buttons. Now it works well. -- Michel Talon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 0:57:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 514DA37B6C4; Mon, 22 May 2000 00:57:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA72902; Mon, 22 May 2000 00:57:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 00:57:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: David Gilbert Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 1 world broken and one request. In-Reply-To: <14632.40173.599097.218355@trooper.velocet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 21 May 2000, David Gilbert wrote: > First the request: would it be possible (to pander to those of us who > use LPRng) to make the /usr/src/*/lp* build optional a-la sendmail? > This would save me some hassles. I don't see a problem with this, but the process would be expedited if you send patches :-) > The make work is breaking for me in the middle of the openssh build. > I CVSup'd tonight, too. It's dying looking for OPIE_HASHNAME_MAX > ... which I can't find in any .h's. What's up? You're cvsupping -current, not -stable. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 1:40:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web1405.mail.yahoo.com (web1405.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB19637BC08 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 01:40:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gwq_uk@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 25700 invoked by uid 60001); 22 May 2000 08:40:13 -0000 Message-ID: <20000522084013.25699.qmail@web1405.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [195.107.47.196] by web1405.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 22 May 2000 01:40:13 PDT Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 01:40:13 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Greg=20Quinlan?= Reply-To: gwq_uk@yahoo.com Subject: PPP complains of invalid net mask??? To: FreeBSD-Stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All, Recently while trying to set up a second PPP link (ppp1) I encounted an error; PPP complained that the netmask of 255.255.255.0 was invalid. I believe it may have something to do with the fact that I already have one PPP link (ppp0) which has a network mask of 255.255.255.128. I am using kernel ppp with - 'pppd file options.vpn' as the command. Setting the netmask to 255.255.255.128 on the second link (ppp1) allows the dialer script to dial and make the connection, but this mask is not valid for the client/gateway combination. Also, despite the fact that I do NOT specify the 'defaultroute' option in the second ppp link options file (options.vpn) pppd attempts to add it giving an error: 'default route exists' Anyone got a clue what's wrong. I am running 3.4S from about midway through Feb/00. Thanks Greg ps. I'm not in the mailing list :( (could not cope with the volume)ie. please include me in replies!! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 2:11: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3773437BD5A for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 02:11:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jochen.Solbrig@urz.uni-heidelberg.de) Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA24860 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 11:11:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from aixterm5.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (fk1@aixterm5.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.45]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23164 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 11:10:59 +0200 Received: (from fk1@localhost) by aixterm5.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id LAA56478 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 May 2000 11:10:59 +0200 (METDST) Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 11:10:59 +0200 From: Jochen Solbrig To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: installworld over nfs suddenly hangs Message-ID: <20000522111057.A42020@aixterm5.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! I have a 4.0-STABLE system and tried to upgrade a 3.3-Release system over nfs. On the 4.0 system I completed make buildworld and exported /usr/src and /usr/obj to the 3.3 system. After recompiling a new kernel on the 3.3 system I did a "make installworld" in the nfs-mounted /usr/src. After some minutes this process suddenly stopped and I got the error "nfs server unreachable". This happened always at different stages during the make installworld process and it does not depend on the option for mount_nfs. I tried -s, -i, -r=1024 and -w=1024 (as suggested in the handbook). tcpdump on the xl0 interface and ping didn't show anything, it seems that the network link is dead after the error. I finally did a binary upgrade to 4.0-Release and tried to "make installworld" again. Things went worse: the installworld process stopped without any error message and I had to do a hardware reset. Could someone please help? Thanks, Jochen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 2:22: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de (jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de [132.176.7.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E4B37BBBF for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 02:21:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de) Received: from fernuni-hagen.de (jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de [132.176.7.6]) by jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682781B5; Mon, 22 May 2000 11:20:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3928FBF5.4BCDE0E@fernuni-hagen.de> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 11:20:53 +0200 From: "F. Heinrichmeyer" Organization: FernUni in Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14-15mdksmp i686) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, German/Germany, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable Subject: spontaneous reboots Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG with recent kernel i had a lot of spontaneous reboots every half our on my SMP system. I made a fresh kernel config file from GENERIC. Now i have enabled IPV6 and disabled SMP and the box is useable again. Could it be that now IPV6 is a must as in single user mode the box made no problems? Greetings -- Fritz Heinrichmeyer mailto:fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de FernUniversitaet Hagen, LG ES, 58084 Hagen (Germany) tel:+49 2331/987-1166 fax:987-355 http://www-es.fernuni-hagen.de/~jfh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 2:48: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310C337B79A for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 02:48:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA94009; Mon, 22 May 2000 19:47:51 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 19:47:47 +1000 From: Jonathan Michaels To: Peter Jeremy Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: curious about memory report usingfreebsd v3.3-release Message-ID: <20000522194744.A93893@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Reply-To: jlm@seaholm.caamora.com.au Mail-Followup-To: Peter Jeremy , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000513201513.A39032@phoenix.welearn.com.au> <00May18.061828est.115207@border.alcanet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <00May18.061828est.115207@border.alcanet.com.au>; from Peter Jeremy on Thu, May 18, 2000 at 06:18:25AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG peter, On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 06:18:25AM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 08:15:51PM +1000, Jonathan Michaels wrote: > >my question is why does the freebsd installation bootstrap > >diskette report my (home built -- from quality, new parts on a > >supermicro motherboard p6sne) pentium pro's systm memory as > >being only 639 kbyte .. shouldn't it be 640 kbyte ?? > > PC BIOSes normally reserve 1KB of low-RAM for their own purposes. > FreeBSD 2.x ignored this and (AFAIK) just used all the memory. i would agree as the v2.x's all reported that thier was 640 kb on all the machines i have, from the 12 year old supermicro oems to the name branded supermicro recently aquired. i;ve made several boot floppies from the couple of 3.x versions that i have and all seem to have this hole. i started to think (read worry) i may have done somthing wrong yet again. > FreeBSD 3.x and later leaves the BIOS RAM alone so that the > kernel can safely use BIOS functions - primarily in the loader, > but also to determine total RAM size and for APM. it appears to be the loader that is making the report, its a bit hard to tell, the screen is small and i'm getting more fragile the longer i use this damnably small (17 inch, fro my eyes this is small) display. ok, thank you fro your reply, and to all the others who replied. i have drawn the conclusion that it is not a thing i need concern myslef with and that my computers will not chuck a wobbly over the "missing" kilobyte .. hopefully, freebsd will follow the same suite. i seem to remember that in the old days this 1 kb was used as part of a keyboard function routine and one could set the bios to either use extended memory (if you had some, that is) or to take some of the conventional memory, thus leaving the one kilobyte hole. it just looks odd and i don't cope too well with surprises, not from hardware that normally is quite stable and complaines very, very little. thank you, peter, thank you, all. warm regards jonathan -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 2:57:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE2337BB79 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 02:57:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA94068; Mon, 22 May 2000 19:57:34 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 19:57:30 +1000 From: Jonathan Michaels To: Andy Sparrow Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: curious about memory report usingfreebsd v3.3-release Message-ID: <20000522195727.B93893@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Reply-To: jon@welearn.com.au Mail-Followup-To: Andy Sparrow , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000515181246.A48481@phoenix.welearn.com.au> <200005151511.IAA17794@mega.geek4food.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <200005151511.IAA17794@mega.geek4food.org>; from Andy Sparrow on Mon, May 15, 2000 at 08:11:46AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG andy, On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 08:11:46AM -0700, Andy Sparrow wrote: > Your message dated: Mon, 15 May 2000 18:12:49 +1000 > > >that is what i thought and so i purchased a intel eepro .. only > >to find i got one of teh "new microsoftised ones" with the ake > >on lan cable and all that other paraphenalia. thier was some > >mention of a 'problem' in teh firmware that make it hard to > >have two of these cards on teh same segment. > > This used to be true, the cards would come up with an unrecognised PHY > message and the same MAC address. i seem to remeber this bit from somewhere. > However, DG spliced in the required changes to support this card around > about 3/28, since which time it's been working perfectly for me :-) as i'm not routing the whole .au domain (grin) now that woud seriously stress the old i386dx33 .. smile. or, doing anyting 'serious' i should expect to have a similar responce. so far i've had a very forgiving relationship with freebsd on my hardware .. with the one excption being the linux emulation stuffup on some poorly written linux apps that sig11'ed while running specifically in xfree circa v2.1.5-release and or v2.1.7-release, finally it was revealed to be a programming error and not my hardware .. that was a long few weeks. thank you fro your responce. warm regards, apreciations. jonathan -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 3:48:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from servius.mbfys.kun.nl (servius.mbfys.kun.nl [131.174.173.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C784437B9B3 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 03:48:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thom@mbfys.kun.nl) Received: from mbfys.kun.nl (catv8134.extern.kun.nl [131.174.118.134]) by servius.mbfys.kun.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A59A5AFB for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 12:48:07 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <39290FFD.24D3B1B6@mbfys.kun.nl> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 12:46:21 +0200 From: Thom Oostendorp Organization: dept. Medical Physics & Biophysics X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 3:56:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from camus.cybercable.fr (camus.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 598BF37B7AA for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 03:56:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mhenrion@cybercable.fr) Received: (qmail 3479768 invoked from network); 22 May 2000 10:56:46 -0000 Received: from r120m198.cybercable.tm.fr (HELO cybercable.fr) ([195.132.120.198]) (envelope-sender ) by camus.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 May 2000 10:56:46 -0000 Message-ID: <39291188.47065C7B@cybercable.fr> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 12:52:56 +0200 From: Maxime Henrion X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: linux kernel module crashing on -STABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello ! I recently wanted to use firewall on my 4.0-STABLE system, and so, i needed to recompile my kernel. I added these three lines : options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT in order to get ipfw working. But now, at boot time, when loading the linux kernel module, my system crashes with this error message : fdrop : count < 0 If someone already had this problem and could help me with it, it'll be pretty nice :) Thanks, Maxime Henrion To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 4: 3:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E81137B9B3 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 04:03:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 22 May 2000 12:03:34 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 12:03:34 +0100 From: David Malone To: Maxime Henrion Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: linux kernel module crashing on -STABLE Message-ID: <20000522120334.A24551@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <39291188.47065C7B@cybercable.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <39291188.47065C7B@cybercable.fr>; from mhenrion@cybercable.fr on Mon, May 22, 2000 at 12:52:56PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 12:52:56PM +0200, Maxime Henrion wrote: > I recently wanted to use firewall on my 4.0-STABLE system, and so, i > needed to recompile my kernel. > I added these three lines : > > options IPFIREWALL > options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE > options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT > > in order to get ipfw working. But now, at boot time, when loading the > linux kernel module, my system crashes with this error message : fdrop : > count < 0 > If someone already had this problem and could help me with it, it'll be > pretty nice :) I think you must have cvsupped since you last built world - the probalm is that your modules are out of date with respect to your kernel. A make world will fix this. David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 4:16:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from drawbridge.ctc.com (drawbridge.ctc.com [147.160.99.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7514C37B9B3 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 04:16:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cameron@ctc.com) Received: from server2.ctc.com (server2.ctc.com [147.160.1.4]) by drawbridge.ctc.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e4MBGoM20599 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 07:16:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ctcjst-mail1.ctc.com (ctcjst-mail1.ctc.com [147.160.34.4]) by server2.ctc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA23994 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 07:16:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ctcjst-mail1.ctc.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 07:17:05 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Cameron, Frank" To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: ide cd not detected by 4.0-STABLE Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 07:17:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I upgraded my home PC from 3.4 to 4.0 not long ago and > am having a problem with my ide cd-rom drive. > > My setup: > Primary > Master: 5G drive > Slave: 5G Drive > Secondary > Master: 24x CD-ROM > Slave: 2x CD-ROM > Tertiary: > on SoundBlaster, not used > > Under DOS, 95, and 3.4 the drive was detected and worked > just fine; but under 4.0 the drive detection times out: > ata1-master: ata_command: timeout waiting for intr > ata1-master: identify failed > > I booted once to my backup 3.4 kernel and the drive was > detected. > > Does anyone have any suggestions on making this work? > Thanks. > The next chance I get I'll cvsup and make world again to see if that helps. > -frank > > > Some excerpts from dmesg: > > FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #49: Sat May 6 21:55:06 EDT 2000 > frank@tigger:/usr/src/sys/compile/FBSD_TIGGER > > atapci0: port > 0xfff0-0xffff at device 7.1 on pci0 > > ata0: iobase=0x01f0 altiobase=0x03f6 bmaddr=0xfff0 > ata0: mask=03 status0=50 status1=50 > ata0: mask=03 status0=50 status1=50 > ata0: devices = 0x3 > ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 > > ata1: iobase=0x0170 altiobase=0x0376 bmaddr=0xfff8 > ata1: mask=03 status0=50 status1=50 > ata1: mask=03 status0=00 status1=00 > ata1: devices = 0xc > ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 > > ata2: iobase=0x0168 altiobase=0x036e bmaddr=0x0000 > ata2: mask=00 status0=ff status1=ff > ata2: probe allocation failed > unknown2: at port > 0x168-0x16f,0x36e-0x36f irq 10 on isa0 > > BIOS Geometries: > 0:0271fe3f 0..625=626 cylinders, 0..254=255 heads, > 1..63=63 sectors > 1:026cfe3f 0..620=621 cylinders, 0..254=255 heads, > 1..63=63 sectors > 0 accounted for > Device configuration finished. > > ata1-master: ata_command: timeout waiting for intr > ata1-master: identify failed > > ata0-master: success setting up UDMA2 mode on VIA chip > ad0: ATA-4 disk at ata0 as > master > ad0: 4924MB (10085040 sectors), 10672 cyls, 15 heads, 63 > S/T, 512 B/S > ad0: 16 secs/int, 1 depth queue, UDMA33 > ad0: piomode=4 dmamode=2 udmamode=2 cblid=0 > Creating DISK ad0 > Creating DISK wd0 > > ata0-slave: success setting up WDMA2 mode on VIA chip > ad1: ATA-3 disk at ata0 as > slave > ad1: 4884MB (10002825 sectors), 10585 cyls, 15 heads, 63 > S/T, 512 B/S > ad1: 16 secs/int, 1 depth queue, WDMA2 > ad1: piomode=4 dmamode=2 udmamode=-1 cblid=0 > Creating DISK ad1 > Creating DISK wd1 > > ata1-slave: piomode=0 dmamode=0 udmamode=-1 dmaflag=1 > ata1-slave: success setting up PIO0 mode on generic chip > acd0: CDROM drive at ata1 as slave > acd0: read 344KB/s (344KB/s), 256KB buffer, PIO0 > acd0: Reads: CD-DA stream > acd0: Audio: play, 256 volume levels > acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray > acd0: Medium: CD-ROM unknown medium, unlocked > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through IMP: http://web.horde.org/imp/ > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through IMP: http://web.horde.org/imp/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 4:18:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lafontaine.cybercable.fr (lafontaine.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D415437BDAF for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 04:18:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mhenrion@cybercable.fr) Received: (qmail 25731542 invoked from network); 22 May 2000 11:18:54 -0000 Received: from r120m198.cybercable.tm.fr (HELO cybercable.fr) ([195.132.120.198]) (envelope-sender ) by lafontaine.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 May 2000 11:18:54 -0000 Message-ID: <392916B7.41158636@cybercable.fr> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 13:15:03 +0200 From: Maxime Henrion X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: linux kernel module crashing on -STABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, i will follow your advices and make world again :) Thanks a lot for your help ! Maxime Henrion To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 5:27:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A9137BBD2 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 05:27:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@privatelabs.com) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (root@misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA01301; Mon, 22 May 2000 07:26:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from privatelabs.com (mi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06419; Mon, 22 May 2000 08:26:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@privatelabs.com) From: mi@privatelabs.com Message-Id: <200005221226.IAA06419@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 08:26:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited To: Jim Weeks Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 21 May, Jim Weeks wrote: = ad0: 4884MB [10585/15/63] at ata0-master using BIOSDMA = ata1-slave: simplex device, DMA on primary only = acd0: CDROM at ata1-slave using BIOSPIO = Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a = ad0: READ command timeout - resetting [...] = ad0: trying fallback to PIO mode = ata0: resetting devices .. done = = After going over the archives it seems that the fix is to put = /sbin/sysctl -w hw.atamodes=pio,pio,pio,pio at the beginning of = /etc/rc. This is not working for me. = = What resolution if any was there to this problem? Use the old wd driver and ignore the config's warnings for the time being... -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 5:31: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp7.xs4all.nl (smtp7.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5018E37BBF1 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 05:30:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arnout@tomcat.xs4all.nl) Received: from tomcat.xs4all.nl (tomcat.xs4all.nl [194.109.15.187]) by smtp7.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00847 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 14:30:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from arnout@localhost) by tomcat.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA01253 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 May 2000 14:40:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 14:40:41 +0200 From: Arnout Boer To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: /kernel: sio0: 2 more silo overflows (total 281) Message-ID: <20000522144041.A1106@tomcat.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there ... since my rebuild (mergemaster / world / kernel) yesterday I get May 22 14:36:31 tomcat /kernel: sio0: 2 more silo overflows (total 281) Never happened me before (except once with an old 486 with 16450 sio) Hardware: Gigabyte 586 DX dual P200MMX dmesg output: ---- Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Mon May 22 12:35:40 CEST 2000 root@tomcat.xs4all.nl:/usr/src/sys/compile/TOMCAT Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium/P55C (200.46-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x544 Stepping = 4 Features=0x8003bf real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) avail memory = 127397888 (124412K bytes) Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0 IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 -> irq 0 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00030010, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00030010, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0309000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc030909c. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at 7.1 pci0: at 8.0 fxp0: port 0x6500-0x653f mem 0xe1000000-0xe10fffff,0xe1100000-0xe1100fff irq 18 at device 10.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:90:27:42:d9:b7 fxp0: supplying EUI64: 00:90:27:ff:fe:42:d9:b7 ahc0: port 0x6000-0x60ff mem 0xe1102000-0xe1102fff irq 19 at device 12.0 on pci0 ahc0: Using left over BIOS settings ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs isa0: too many dependant configs (8) isa0: unexpected small tag 14 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model MouseMan+, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/16 bytes threshold lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port sbc1: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5 drq 1,5 on isa0 sbc1: setting card to irq 5, drq 1, 5 unknown0: at port 0x200-0x207 on isa0 unknown1: at port 0x620-0x623 on isa0 APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery APIC_IO: routing 8254 via IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 IP Filter: initialized. Default = pass all, Logging = enabled IP Filter: v3.3.8 Waiting 10 seconds for SCSI devices to settle SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15) cd0: cd present [327283 x 2048 byte records] da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 2063MB (4226725 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 2063C) da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 8715MB (17850000 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 8715C) fxp0: starting DAD for fe80:0001::0290:27ff:fe42:d9b7 fxp0: DAD complete for fe80:0001::0290:27ff:fe42:d9b7 - no duplicates found sio0: 3 more silo overflows (total 3) sio0: 1 more silo overflow (total 4) sio0: 1 more silo overflow (total 5) sio0: 2 more silo overflows (total 7) sio0: 1 more silo overflow (total 8) sio0: 2 more silo overflows (total 10) sio0: 1 more silo overflow 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 7: 7:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.bna.bellsouth.net (mail1.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C8837B713 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 07:07:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from discover.siteplus.net (host-216-78-83-24.cha.bellsouth.net [216.78.83.24]) by mail1.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id KAA09058; Mon, 22 May 2000 10:07:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 10:07:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: mi@privatelabs.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited In-Reply-To: <200005221226.IAA06419@misha.privatelabs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 22 May 2000 mi@privatelabs.com wrote: > > Use the old wd driver and ignore the config's warnings for the time > being... > > -mi Thanks for the response. I am using the wd drivers for now. Of course I do get an error message. I seem to remember the subject of one phase of the thread was "ad damages filesystem". I haven't experienced this, but is this likely? Jim Weeks -------- A mind is a terrible thing to lose! How I miss mine.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 8:22: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from durango.picus.com (durango.picus.com [209.100.20.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE5637B7C7 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 08:21:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from troy@picus.com) Received: from arcadia [209.100.20.198] by durango.picus.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A04416B014A; Mon, 22 May 2000 11:20:36 -0400 From: "Troy Settle" To: Subject: RE: Make world fails on latest 2.2.8... Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 11:23:41 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 2.2.8.. wow. I thought I was the only one still using it. Does anyone have an estimate of how long this branch will continue to be availiable via cvsup? How long it will continue to recieve any bug fixes? -Troy ** -----Original Message----- ** From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG ** [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Kris Kennaway ** Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2000 11:03 PM ** To: Warner Losh ** Cc: Andrew.Wilson@cs.cf.ac.uk; stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Andrew Wilson; Josef ** Karthauser ** Subject: Re: Make world fails on latest 2.2.8... ** ** ** On Sun, 21 May 2000, Warner Losh wrote: ** ** > : I think this was an overenthusiastic commit by Joe ** Karthauser (strlcpy() ** > : doesnt exist in 2.x) ** > ** > Has this been reverted yet? ** ** No, it's only been a few hours since it was discovered. Give Joe ** some time ** to correct the mistake.. ** ** Kris ** ** ---- ** In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. ** -- Charles Forsythe ** ** ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ** with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 8:31:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from BSDpc.geek4food.org (adsl-216-103-105-71.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.103.105.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F82F37B9AC for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 08:31:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@geek4food.org) Received: from mega.geek4food.org (mega.geek4food.org [192.168.1.57]) by BSDpc.geek4food.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5BBA6C8; Mon, 22 May 2000 08:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mega.geek4food.org (localhost.geek4food.org [127.0.0.1]) by mega.geek4food.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA00685; Mon, 22 May 2000 08:31:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@geek4food.org) Message-Id: <200005221531.IAA00685@mega.geek4food.org> To: Kazutaka YOKOTA Cc: Andy Sparrow , stable@freeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Weird rodent behaviour In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 May 2000 16:18:06 +0900." <200005220718.QAA16478@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 08:31:13 -0700 From: Andy Sparrow Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -------- Your message dated: Mon, 22 May 2000 16:18:06 +0900 >It IS detected correctly :-) As far as the mouse firmware is >concerned, Logitech Marble FX uses the PS/2++ protocol which is the >Logitech's proprietary protocol since MouseMan+/FirstMouse+. Marble >FX and MouseMan+ are software compatible and the mouse driver does not >need to distinguish the two. OK, it was just that it /used/ to report it as a MouseMan+.. :-) >I would like to see your mouse settings in /etc/rc.conf and XF86Config. >I also would like you to give "boot -v" at the boot loader prompt and >send me /var/run/dmesg.boot after the system is started. (Do not use >a KVM when you do this please.) OK, I'll do this tonight. >If you add "-3" option for moused (in moused_flags in /etc/rc.conf), >you may need to tweak the 3-button emulation timeout in the "-E" option >as well. But, as Marble FX does have the middle button, you shouldn't >need to use the "-3" option in the first place. Are you absolutely sure >that the middle button suddenly became inoperable? I'm afraid so. I already had the '-3' option for moused (because of the behaviour I described with the Xterm menu), but I found it much more convenient to use the middle button for pasting. The button events that are missed are more likely to be a 1st (i.e. left) button events than anything else. >>Even more recently (last w/e), I added a Linksys 4 port KVM switch, and took >>the M$ mouse off another machine and plugged it into the KVM. >> >>I now notice that: >> >>* The KVM switch seems to prevent the mouse being detected correctly, psm "se >e >>s" >> only a generic PS/2 mouse on both machines - dmesg says: >> >> psm0: failed to get data. >> psm0 irq 12 on isa >> psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 > >I don't know which M$ mouse model you are using. But, if it is a >2-button model, without a wheel, the above message is correct. The >2-button MS mouse is very "generic" :-) Gack, the horror... I described the above inaccurately. I took a cheesy two button M$ mouse off the other machine (and threw it into a box), and the "it" in my description refers to plugging the Marble FX into the KVM (and thus into both machines, one 3.4-STABLE, the other 4.0-STABLE). Now they both report a "generic" mouse on boot-up (probably due to the KVM), but the middle button works for paste on the 3.4-STABLE machine, whereas I still have to chord to paste on the 4.0-STABLE machine. They both have '-3' as an argument to moused, and they both have '/dev/sysmouse' as the mouse device in XF86Config. Sorry for not wording that better. >The psm driver cannot distinguish every single mouse model on the >market. There are too many of them. It only detects and >distinguishes as many models and protocols as it needs to know to >operate the mouse correctly. Understand entirely :-) >If this MS mouse is IntelliMouse (it has a wheel), then your KVM is >not compatible with IntelliMouse and the psm driver cannot do anything >about it ;-< Yes, I appreciate that. However, it's the Logitech mouse I'm using with the KVM, and it works fine with one machine running 3.4-STABLE and not the machine running 4.0-STABLE. The moused and X configs are identical, and the machine running 4.0 worked fine when it ran 3.x.. Cheers, AS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 9:11:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4489037B61E for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 09:11:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21451; Mon, 22 May 2000 09:11:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA96434; Mon, 22 May 2000 09:11:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 09:11:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200005221611.JAA96434@vashon.polstra.com> To: troy@picus.com Subject: Re: Make world fails on latest 2.2.8... In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article , Troy Settle wrote: > > 2.2.8.. wow. I thought I was the only one still using it. > > Does anyone have an estimate of how long this branch will continue to be > availiable via cvsup? Until the end of the world as we know it. :-) CVSup works directly from the source repository, which contains the entire history of the project. So all past releases are available by that means. You can get FreeBSD-2.0 from there with the tag RELEASE_2_0. For that matter, you can get the original 4.4-lite imports with the tag bsd_44_lite. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 10:51:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.campbell-mithun.com (Mercury.campbell-mithun.com [192.159.32.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E22D37B814 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 10:51:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Received: from accord.grasslake.net (honda.grasslake.net [192.168.1.1]) by mercury.campbell-mithun.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA24459 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 12:49:38 -0500 Received: from marlowe (Marlowe.campbell-mithun.com [192.159.32.184]) by accord.grasslake.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA13893 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 12:48:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Message-ID: <010601bfc416$57f03d70$b8209fc0@marlowe> From: "Shawn Barnhart" To: "stable" Subject: -CURRENT Mylex on stable? Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 12:51:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is it possible to download the Mylex stuff from -CURRENT and use it in STABLE and actually have it build? I'd like to be able to get the fixes for this particular from CURRENT without having to spend the time running CURRENT to see if the driver works. I recognize that this is generally a bad idea, but I thought I'd ask before I bothered even trying. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 10:54:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (adsl-63-206-88-224.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.206.88.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5AA937BABE for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 10:54:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05153; Mon, 22 May 2000 10:55:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200005221755.KAA05153@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Shawn Barnhart" Cc: "stable" Subject: Re: -CURRENT Mylex on stable? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 May 2000 12:51:22 CDT." <010601bfc416$57f03d70$b8209fc0@marlowe> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 10:55:37 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Not directly. But you should be able to take the last set of diffs that I committed and have them apply (fairly) cleanly to the driver in -stable. > Is it possible to download the Mylex stuff from -CURRENT and use it in > STABLE and actually have it build? > > I'd like to be able to get the fixes for this particular from CURRENT > without having to spend the time running CURRENT to see if the driver works. > I recognize that this is generally a bad idea, but I thought I'd ask before > I bothered even trying. > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 11:13:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.campbell-mithun.com (Mercury.campbell-mithun.com [192.159.32.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18AEF37BDC3; Mon, 22 May 2000 11:13:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Received: from accord.grasslake.net (honda.grasslake.net [192.168.1.1]) by mercury.campbell-mithun.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA24643; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:11:18 -0500 Received: from marlowe (Marlowe.campbell-mithun.com [192.159.32.184]) by accord.grasslake.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA13949; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:10:14 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Message-ID: <010b01bfc419$5e70cae0$b8209fc0@marlowe> From: "Shawn Barnhart" To: "Mike Smith" Cc: "stable" References: <200005221755.KAA05153@mass.cdrom.com> Subject: Re: -CURRENT Mylex on stable? Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 13:13:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Smith" | Not directly. But you should be able to take the last set of diffs that | I committed and have them apply (fairly) cleanly to the driver in | -stable. For those of us amateurs attempting this, is there more of a step-step approach to this? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 11:30:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (adsl-63-206-88-224.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.206.88.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 392D937BC1C for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 11:30:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05327; Mon, 22 May 2000 11:32:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200005221832.LAA05327@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Shawn Barnhart" Cc: "stable" Subject: Re: -CURRENT Mylex on stable? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 May 2000 13:13:02 CDT." <010b01bfc419$5e70cae0$b8209fc0@marlowe> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 11:32:14 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Smith" > > > | Not directly. But you should be able to take the last set of diffs that > | I committed and have them apply (fairly) cleanly to the driver in > | -stable. > > For those of us amateurs attempting this, is there more of a step-step > approach to this? Not really. 1) Get the diffs. You will need a CVS repository, or use the cvsweb interface at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi to extract the diffs. Note that mlx.c, mlx_disk.c, mlx_pci.c and mlxvar.h all changed in this fix. 2) Apply the diffs. Note that if you cut-and-paste from your browser, you may get diffs that contain corrupted whitespace. Always save them directly to a file. 3) Recompile your kernel. ... or if you are using the module, recompile the mlx module. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 12:29:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0409137B784 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 12:29:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15001; Mon, 22 May 2000 12:29:22 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200005221929.MAA15001@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Make world fails on latest 2.2.8... In-Reply-To: from Troy Settle at "May 22, 0 11:23:41 am" To: troy@picus.com (Troy Settle) Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 12:29:22 -0700 (MST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Troy Settle wrote: > > 2.2.8.. wow. I thought I was the only one still using it. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= chad@freeway[/chad]:22> uname -a FreeBSD freeway.dcfinc.com 2.2.8-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE #4: Wed May 3 13:14:23 MST 2000 chad@freeway.dcfinc.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/freeway i386 chad@freeway[/chad]:23> uptime 12:21PM up 18 days, 16:44, 18 users, load averages: 2.02, 2.01, 2.00 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Got a half-dozen or so. Perhaps worse (or better, depending on how you look at it)... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= chad@freebie[/home/chad]:21> uname -a FreeBSD freebie.dcfinc.com 2.1-STABLE FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE #2: Tue Feb 1 11:03:37 MST 2000 chad@freebie.dcfinc.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/FREEBIE i386 chad@freebie[/home/chad]:22> uptime 11:29AM up 71 days, 13:04, 1 user, load averages: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 13:30:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19CA437BC88; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:30:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA93929; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:30:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 13:30:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Troy Settle Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Make world fails on latest 2.2.8... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 22 May 2000, Troy Settle wrote: > Does anyone have an estimate of how long this branch will continue to be > availiable via cvsup? Forever :-) As time goes by it might become harder to find snapshot mirror sites though. > How long it will continue to recieve any bug fixes? Again, "forever", but with exponentially decaying frequency. There have been only a handful of commits to 2.2.x in the past year, although there were also one or two to 2.1.x, if you can believe it. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 13:35: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF69737B727; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:34:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA94381; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:34:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 13:34:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: "F. Heinrichmeyer" Cc: freebsd-stable Subject: Re: spontaneous reboots In-Reply-To: <3928FBF5.4BCDE0E@fernuni-hagen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 22 May 2000, F. Heinrichmeyer wrote: > with recent kernel i had a lot of spontaneous reboots every half our on > my SMP system. > > I made a fresh kernel config file from GENERIC. Now i have enabled IPV6 > and disabled SMP and the box is useable again. Could it be that now IPV6 > is a must as in single user mode the box made no problems? That conclusion does not follow from the steps you have reported. Was it stable by just changing ONE of the two knobs singly, not both together? It's much more likely that SMP is the culprit. The answer to your question is that INET6 is not a required option. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 13:37:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A40B937BAA6; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:37:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA94687; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:37:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 13:37:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Jim Weeks Cc: mi@privatelabs.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 22 May 2000, Jim Weeks wrote: > I am using the wd drivers for now. Of course I do get an error message. > > I seem to remember the subject of one phase of the thread was "ad damages > filesystem". I haven't experienced this, but is this likely? This was argued only to apply for a certain type of controller/motherboard. It certainly doesn't seem to do this in the general case, even if it's true at all. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 14:11:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9C137B727 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 14:11:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 12tzTK-0001dF-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 22 May 2000 17:10:46 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 17:10:45 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited Message-ID: <20000522171045.A5790@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from kris@FreeBSD.org on Mon, May 22, 2000 at 01:37:22PM -0700 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway probably said: > This was argued only to apply for a certain type of > controller/motherboard. It certainly doesn't seem to do this in the > general case, even if it's true at all. but there do seem to be far wider problems with the ata/ad driver for timeouts (both read and write). I get better performance on my laptop in PIO mode than DMA, because with PIO I don't have to wait for all the timouts to finish to actually get me some data. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 14:56:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail0.bna.bellsouth.net (mail0.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4510737B52B for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 14:56:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from discover.siteplus.net (host-209-215-9-28.cha.bellsouth.net [209.215.9.28]) by mail0.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id RAA28269 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 17:56:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 17:56:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited In-Reply-To: <20000522171045.A5790@pir.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 22 May 2000, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > but there do seem to be far wider problems with the ata/ad driver for > timeouts (both read and write). I get better performance on my laptop > in PIO mode than DMA, because with PIO I don't have to wait for all > the timouts to finish to actually get me some data. How are you implementing PIO mode. After searching the archives the only method I saw mentioned was to put /sbin/sysctl -w hw.atamodes=pio,pio,pio,pio at the beginning of /etc/defaults/rc.conf or in /etc/rc.local. This did not work for me. Jim Weeks -------- A mind is a terrible thing to lose! How I miss mine.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 15: 2:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ramstind.gtf.ol.no (ramstind.gtf.ol.no [128.39.174.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E3E37B566 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 15:02:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by ramstind.gtf.ol.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA62433; Tue, 23 May 2000 00:02:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 00:02:20 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= To: Jim Weeks Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 22 May 2000, Jim Weeks wrote: > > How are you implementing PIO mode. After searching the archives the only > method I saw mentioned was to put > > /sbin/sysctl -w hw.atamodes=pio,pio,pio,pio > > at the beginning of /etc/defaults/rc.conf or in /etc/rc.local. This did > not work for me. I believe you should put that at the beginning of /etc/rc, after #!/bin/sh and not in /etc/rc.local nor /etc/default/rc.conf. > > Jim Weeks > -------- A mind is a terrible thing to lose! How I miss mine.. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Trond Endrestøl | trond@gtf.ol.no Merkantilvegen 59HB7, | trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no N-2815 GJØVIK, NORWAY |+47 61139424 || +47 63874242 Patron of The Art of Computer Programming| FreeBSD 3.4 & Pine 4.21 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 15: 9:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E34D37B512 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 15:09:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 12u0Nq-0002dZ-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 22 May 2000 18:09:10 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 18:09:09 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited Message-ID: <20000522180909.A9843@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no on Tue, May 23, 2000 at 12:02:20AM +0200 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Trond Endrestøl probably said: > On Mon, 22 May 2000, Jim Weeks wrote: > > /sbin/sysctl -w hw.atamodes=pio,pio,pio,pio > > at the beginning of /etc/defaults/rc.conf or in /etc/rc.local. This did > > not work for me. > I believe you should put that at the beginning of /etc/rc, after > > #!/bin/sh > > and not in /etc/rc.local nor /etc/default/rc.conf. Thats what I did - in /etc/rc. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 15:10: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.bna.bellsouth.net (mail2.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C6137B898 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 15:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from discover.siteplus.net (host-209-215-9-28.cha.bellsouth.net [209.215.9.28]) by mail2.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id SAA19651; Mon, 22 May 2000 18:09:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 18:09:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 23 May 2000, [ISO-8859-1] Trond Endrest=F8l wrote: > I believe you should put that at the beginning of /etc/rc, after >=20 > #!/bin/sh Actually, I think I did try that. I have tried so many things at this point I should have kept a diary. I will try it again to make sure. Thanks, Jim Weeks -------- A mind is a terrible thing to lose! How I miss mine.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 15:24:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail0.bna.bellsouth.net (mail0.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A1537B547 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 15:24:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from discover.siteplus.net (host-209-215-9-28.cha.bellsouth.net [209.215.9.28]) by mail0.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id SAA01354 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 18:24:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 18:24:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited In-Reply-To: <20000522180909.A9843@pir.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 22 May 2000, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > Trond Endrest=F8l probably said: >=20 > > I believe you should put that at the beginning of /etc/rc, after > >=20 > > #!/bin/sh > > =20 > > and not in /etc/rc.local nor /etc/default/rc.conf. >=20 > Thats what I did - in /etc/rc. >=20 > P. OK, Been there done that. It still doesn't work. Is there some sort of fix scheduled for the future? =20 Jim Weeks -------- A mind is a terrible thing to lose! How I miss mine.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 15:30:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F5137B651 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 15:29:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 12u0he-0002kd-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 22 May 2000 18:29:38 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 18:29:38 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited Message-ID: <20000522182937.C9843@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000522180909.A9843@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from jim@siteplus.net on Mon, May 22, 2000 at 06:24:10PM -0400 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jim Weeks probably said: > Been there done that. It still doesn't work. Define "it doesn't work" ? It doesn't switch to pio mode or doesn't stop timeouts ? > Is there some sort of fix scheduled for the future? If there was a fix known, for it to be scheduled, it would probably already be in the tree. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 16: 0: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.airmail.net (mail.airmail.net [206.66.12.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8BAF137B63A for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 16:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kb5zuy@airmail.net) Received: from airmail.net from [207.158.100.67] by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.438) with esmtp for sender: id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 17:59:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3929BB7F.60ECEFE4@airmail.net> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 17:58:07 -0500 From: Alan Edmonds X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Weeks Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What worked for me was to put hw.atamodes=pio,,pio, in /etc/sysctl.conf -- Alan Edmonds To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 16:12: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.campbell-mithun.com (Mercury.campbell-mithun.com [192.159.32.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242B437B595; Mon, 22 May 2000 16:11:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Received: from accord.grasslake.net (honda.grasslake.net [192.168.1.1]) by mercury.campbell-mithun.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA27358; Mon, 22 May 2000 18:10:29 -0500 Received: from k6 (k6.grasslake.net [192.168.2.1]) by accord.grasslake.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA14316; Mon, 22 May 2000 18:09:25 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Message-ID: <001a01bfc443$29986790$0102a8c0@k6> From: "Shawn Barnhart" To: "Mike Smith" Cc: "stable" References: <200005221832.LAA05327@mass.cdrom.com> Subject: Re: -CURRENT Mylex on stable? Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 18:12:12 -0500 Organization: Grasslake.Net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Smith" | 1) Get the diffs. | | You will need a CVS repository, or use the cvsweb interface | at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi to extract the diffs. | Note that mlx.c, mlx_disk.c, mlx_pci.c and mlxvar.h all changed | in this fix. | | 2) Apply the diffs. OK, not to be flippant, but is there any reason I couldn't just use the CURRENT version of those files? I'm missing where the end result of diff/patch differs from the files themselves. It's a nice exercise, but kind of a PITA when you're not a CVS user. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 16:26:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.bna.bellsouth.net (mail1.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D02637B78B for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 16:26:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from discover.siteplus.net (host-209-215-9-28.cha.bellsouth.net [209.215.9.28]) by mail1.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id TAA23053 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 19:26:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 19:26:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited In-Reply-To: <20000522182937.C9843@pir.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 22 May 2000, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > Define "it doesn't work" ? ad0: 4884MB [10585/15/63] at ata0-master using BIOSDMA ata1-slave: simplex device, DMA on primary only acd0: CDROM at ata1-slave using BIOSPIO Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a ad0: READ command timeout - resetting ata0: resetting devices .. done ad0: READ command timeout - resetting ata0: resetting devices .. done ad0: READ command timeout - resetting ata0: resetting devices .. done ad0: READ command timeout - resetting ata0-master: timeout waiting to give command=ef s=eb e=eb ad0: trying fallback to PIO mode ata0: resetting devices .. done > > It doesn't switch to pio mode or doesn't stop timeouts ? There is no change in the timeouts with or without adding the line to rc. At least it does eventually fall back to PIO. I understand from some of the posts that not every case is so. > If there was a fix known, for it to be scheduled, it would probably > already be in the tree. I was actually hoping that someone with a fix in the works would respond ;-) I do appreciate your response though. My late Father always said that two heads were better than one, even if one is a punkin head. Of course that one would be mine ;_) Jim Weeks -------- A mind is a terrible thing to lose! How I miss mine.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 16:48:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.bna.bellsouth.net (mail1.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD29237B868 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 16:48:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from discover.siteplus.net (host-209-215-9-28.cha.bellsouth.net [209.215.9.28]) by mail1.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id TAA15640; Mon, 22 May 2000 19:48:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 19:48:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Alan Edmonds Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited In-Reply-To: <3929BB7F.60ECEFE4@airmail.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 22 May 2000, Alan Edmonds wrote: > > What worked for me was to put > hw.atamodes=pio,,pio, > in /etc/sysctl.conf I tried this also. Did you by any chance use this along with /sbin/sysctl -w hw.atamodes=pio,pio,pio,pio in /etc/rc? I even saw a post saying that someone put it into /root/.profile and /root/.login, although I am not sure how that was implemented or why. Jim Weeks -------- A mind is a terrible thing to lose! How I miss mine.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 19:30:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.va.home.com (ha1.rdc1.va.home.com [24.2.32.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE48737B64D for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 19:30:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from john.baldwin.cx ([24.6.244.187]) by mail.rdc1.va.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with ESMTP id <20000523023043.EMST22611.mail.rdc1.va.home.com@john.baldwin.cx>; Mon, 22 May 2000 19:30:43 -0700 Content-Length: 1751 X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 22:30:39 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Jim Weeks Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <20000523023043.EMST22611.mail.rdc1.va.home.com@john.baldwin.cx> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 22-May-00 Jim Weeks wrote: > > On Mon, 22 May 2000, Peter Radcliffe wrote: >> >> Define "it doesn't work" ? > > ad0: 4884MB [10585/15/63] at ata0-master using BIOSDMA > ata1-slave: simplex device, DMA on primary only > acd0: CDROM at ata1-slave using BIOSPIO > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > ata0: resetting devices .. done > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > ata0: resetting devices .. done > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > ata0: resetting devices .. done > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > ata0-master: timeout waiting to give command=ef s=eb e=eb > ad0: trying fallback to PIO mode > ata0: resetting devices .. done > >> >> It doesn't switch to pio mode or doesn't stop timeouts ? > > There is no change in the timeouts with or without adding the line to > rc. At least it does eventually fall back to PIO. I understand from some > of the posts that not every case is so. > >> If there was a fix known, for it to be scheduled, it would probably >> already be in the tree. > > I was actually hoping that someone with a fix in the works would > respond ;-) Hrm, you might want to ask sos@FreeBSD.org. There might be a way to set the variable in the loader?? (which would fix your problem) > I do appreciate your response though. My late Father always said that two > heads were better than one, even if one is a punkin head. Of course that > one would be mine ;_) > > Jim Weeks > -------- A mind is a terrible thing to lose! How I miss mine.. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 1:17:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from d902.iki.rssi.ru (d902.iki.rssi.ru [193.232.9.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADDC37BC93 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 01:17:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andry@d902.iki.rssi.ru) Received: from d902.iki.rssi.ru (tower.iki.rssi.ru [193.232.9.49]) by d902.iki.rssi.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29166 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 12:17:40 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <392A3EA5.294E8511@d902.iki.rssi.ru> Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 12:17:41 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Proshin" Organization: =?koi8-r?Q?=E9=EB=E9?= X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 1:37: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from demos.su (mx.demos.su [194.87.0.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE20E37B53D for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 01:37:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tolyar%mx.ru%geisteskrank.demos.su@sinbin.demos.su) Received: from sinbin.demos.su ([194.87.5.31] verified) by demos.su (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with SMTP id 6306732 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 May 2000 12:36:59 +0400 Received: from geisteskrank.demos.su by sinbin.demos.su with ESMTP id MAA21868; (8.6.12/D) Tue, 23 May 2000 12:36:45 +0400 Received: from mx.ru by geisteskrank.demos.su with ESMTP id MAA28953; (8.9.3/D) Tue, 23 May 2000 12:36:08 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.4 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 12:36:09 +0400 (MSD) From: Zherdev Anatoly To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Problem with NFS on FreeBSD 4.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello. There is problems with NFS on FreeBSD 4.0. I have two computers one NFS server (4.0 - CURRENT 2-Mar /Dual PII - SMP) and second NFS client ( 4.0 - STABLE 3-Apr /Dual PII - SMP) /usr/ports place on NFS server, and NFS client mount it from server. When i make some ports on client (for example /usr/ports/graphics/png) i have a problem. After patching some files (different) who was patched is missing (examples see below), some time it missing, but some time "make install" is OK. If i making port on local disk of NFS client, or build it on NFS server all OK. Client 4.0-STABLE (3 - Apr) Server 4.0-CURRENT (2 -Mar) <----------- make ( /usr/ports/graphics/png ) first time ----------------> ===> Extracting for png-1.0.6 >> Checksum OK for libpng-1.0.6.tar.gz. >> Checksum OK for libpng-1.0.6-patch-a.txt.gz. >> Checksum OK for libpng-1.0.6-patch-b.txt.gz. >> Checksum OK for libpng-1.0.6-patch-c.txt.gz. ===> Patching for png-1.0.6 ===> Applying distribution patches for png-1.0.6 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for png-1.0.6 ===> Configuring for png-1.0.6 cd /usr/ports/graphics/png/work/libpng-1.0.6 && /bin/cp scripts/makefile.std Makefile ===> Building for png-1.0.6 make: don't know how to make png.h. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/png. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/png. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/png. ----------------------------- After this : Client : png.h.orig - present Client : png.h - absent Server: png.h.orig - present Server: png.h - absent -------------------------------- <-------------------- make - second time ---------------------------------> ===> Extracting for png-1.0.6 >> Checksum OK for libpng-1.0.6.tar.gz. >> Checksum OK for libpng-1.0.6-patch-a.txt.gz. >> Checksum OK for libpng-1.0.6-patch-b.txt.gz. >> Checksum OK for libpng-1.0.6-patch-c.txt.gz. ===> Patching for png-1.0.6 ===> Applying distribution patches for png-1.0.6 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for png-1.0.6 ===> Configuring for png-1.0.6 cd /usr/ports/graphics/png/work/libpng-1.0.6 && /bin/cp scripts/makefile.std Makefile ===> Building for png-1.0.6 cc -O -pipe -I. -c pngset.c cc -O -pipe -I. -c pngget.c cc -O -pipe -I. -c pngrutil.c cc -O -pipe -I. -c pngtrans.c cc -O -pipe -I. -c pngwutil.c cc -O -pipe -I. -c pngread.c cc -O -pipe -I. -c pngrio.c cc -O -pipe -I. -c pngwio.c cc -O -pipe -I. -c pngrtran.c cc -O -pipe -I. -c pngwtran.c cc -O -pipe -I. -c pngmem.c cc -O -pipe -I. -c pngerror.c cc -O -pipe -I. -c pngpread.c ar rc libpng.a png.o pngset.o pngget.o pngrutil.o pngtrans.o pngwutil.o pngread.o pngrio.o pngwio.o pngwrite.o pngrtran.o pngwtran.o pngmem.o pngerror.o pngpread.o /usr/libexec/elf/ar: png.o: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/png/work/libpng-1.0.6. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/png. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/png. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/png. ----------------- After this: png.h - OK png.h.orig - OK png.c - absent png.c.orig - OK (Both client and server) ------------------ -- Zherdev Anatoly. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 4:56:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from westhost15.westhost.net (westhost15.westhost.net [216.71.84.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C88337B54E for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 04:56:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pahowes@fair-ware.com) Received: from beast (h0020af68b314.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.140.123]) by westhost15.westhost.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA07059; Tue, 23 May 2000 05:26:24 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Paul A. Howes" To: "Zherdev Anatoly" , Subject: RE: Problem with NFS on FreeBSD 4.0 Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 06:27:03 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What I usually do is perform the first-time build and install on the server. Then, when I need one of the applications in /usr/ports on a different system, I NFS-mount /usr/ports and perform a "make reinstall" to get the application installed, but not built from scratch, on the client. I do it this way, because I had been alerted to permission problems in the building of various components. It's just simpler to do all of the builds on a server, and only do the installs on the client. Besides, my server is a faster machine than the clients I have, so builds go MUCH faster on it. -- Paul A. Howes -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG On Behalf Of Zherdev Anatoly Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 4:36 AM To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problem with NFS on FreeBSD 4.0 Hello. There is problems with NFS on FreeBSD 4.0. I have two computers one NFS server (4.0 - CURRENT 2-Mar /Dual PII - SMP) and second NFS client ( 4.0 - STABLE 3-Apr /Dual PII - SMP) /usr/ports place on NFS server, and NFS client mount it from server. When i make some ports on client (for example /usr/ports/graphics/png) i have a problem. After patching some files (different) who was patched is missing (examples see below), some time it missing, but some time "make install" is OK. If i making port on local disk of NFS client, or build it on NFS server all OK. Client 4.0-STABLE (3 - Apr) Server 4.0-CURRENT (2 -Mar) <----------- make ( /usr/ports/graphics/png ) first time ----------------> ===> Extracting for png-1.0.6 >> Checksum OK for libpng-1.0.6.tar.gz. >> Checksum OK for libpng-1.0.6-patch-a.txt.gz. >> Checksum OK for libpng-1.0.6-patch-b.txt.gz. >> Checksum OK for libpng-1.0.6-patch-c.txt.gz. ===> Patching for png-1.0.6 ===> Applying distribution patches for png-1.0.6 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for png-1.0.6 ===> Configuring for png-1.0.6 cd /usr/ports/graphics/png/work/libpng-1.0.6 && /bin/cp scripts/makefile.std Makefile ===> Building for png-1.0.6 make: don't know how to make png.h. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/png. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/png. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/png. ----------------------------- After this : Client : png.h.orig - present Client : png.h - absent Server: png.h.orig - present Server: png.h - absent -------------------------------- <-------------------- make - second time ---------------------------------> ===> Extracting for png-1.0.6 >> Checksum OK for libpng-1.0.6.tar.gz. >> Checksum OK for libpng-1.0.6-patch-a.txt.gz. >> Checksum OK for libpng-1.0.6-patch-b.txt.gz. >> Checksum OK for libpng-1.0.6-patch-c.txt.gz. ===> Patching for png-1.0.6 ===> Applying distribution patches for png-1.0.6 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for png-1.0.6 ===> Configuring for png-1.0.6 cd /usr/ports/graphics/png/work/libpng-1.0.6 && /bin/cp scripts/makefile.std Makefile ===> Building for png-1.0.6 cc -O -pipe -I. -c pngset.c cc -O -pipe -I. -c pngget.c cc -O -pipe -I. -c pngrutil.c cc -O -pipe -I. -c pngtrans.c cc -O -pipe -I. -c pngwutil.c cc -O -pipe -I. -c pngread.c cc -O -pipe -I. -c pngrio.c cc -O -pipe -I. -c pngwio.c cc -O -pipe -I. -c pngrtran.c cc -O -pipe -I. -c pngwtran.c cc -O -pipe -I. -c pngmem.c cc -O -pipe -I. -c pngerror.c cc -O -pipe -I. -c pngpread.c ar rc libpng.a png.o pngset.o pngget.o pngrutil.o pngtrans.o pngwutil.o pngread.o pngrio.o pngwio.o pngwrite.o pngrtran.o pngwtran.o pngmem.o pngerror.o pngpread.o /usr/libexec/elf/ar: png.o: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/png/work/libpng-1.0.6. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/png. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/png. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/png. ----------------- After this: png.h - OK png.h.orig - OK png.c - absent png.c.orig - OK (Both client and server) ------------------ -- Zherdev Anatoly. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 5: 2:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de (jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de [132.176.7.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA40937B54E for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 05:02:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de) Received: by jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de (Postfix, from userid 200) id 1D0921202; Tue, 23 May 2000 14:02:44 +0200 (CEST) To: "F. Heinrichmeyer" Cc: freebsd-stable Subject: solved Re: spontaneous reboots References: <3928FBF5.4BCDE0E@fernuni-hagen.de> From: Heinrichmeyer Date: 23 May 2000 14:02:44 +0200 In-Reply-To: "F. Heinrichmeyer"'s message of "Mon, 22 May 2000 11:20:53 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0806 (Gnus v5.8.6) XEmacs/21.1 (Capitol Reef) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I made and installed a new world and now the server works fast and fine as before. It seems that the SMP-cleanups required a recompile. -- Fritz Heinrichmeyer mailto:fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de FernUniversitaet Hagen, LG ES, 58084 Hagen (Germany) tel:+49 2331/987-1166 fax:987-355 http://www-es.fernuni-hagen.de/~jfh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 5: 5: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from raditex.se (gandalf.raditex.se [192.5.36.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF79637B977 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 05:04:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaj@raditex.se) Received: (from kaj@localhost) by raditex.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA89476; Tue, 23 May 2000 14:04:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from kaj@raditex.se) X-Authentication-Warning: frodo.sickla.raditex.se: kaj set sender to kaj@raditex.se using -f To: Cc: "Zherdev Anatoly" , Subject: Ports & Packages (Re: Problem with NFS on FreeBSD 4.0) References: From: Rasmus Kaj Cc: Rasmus Kaj Organization: Raditex AB - http://Raditex.se/ Date: 23 May 2000 14:04:23 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Paul A. Howes"'s message of "Tue, 23 May 2000 06:27:03 -0400" Message-ID: <84ln11cw1k.fsf@frodo.sickla.raditex.se> Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0806 (Gnus v5.8.6) XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "PAH" == Paul A Howes writes: PAH> What I usually do is perform the first-time build and install on PAH> the server. Then, when I need one of the applications in PAH> /usr/ports on a different system, I NFS-mount /usr/ports and PAH> perform a "make reinstall" to get the application installed, but PAH> not built from scratch, on the client. You know that there is a package target as well? So you can "make package" to get a package file which you can install with pkg_add. If you create a directory packages in the ports directory the packages you create will be put in packages/All with symlinks from the categories and Latest for your convinience ... Needless to say, if you install a package which requires other packages those other packages are also installed, just like when you /stand/sysinstall or "make install" / "make reinstall" ... -- Rasmus Kaj ------------------ rasmus@kaj.a.se - http://Raditex.se/~kaj/ \ You can't grep a window - Use a Unix! Any Unix! \------------------------------------------------- http://Raditex.se/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 5:28: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isabase.philol.msu.ru (isabase.philol.msu.ru [195.208.217.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D628D37B9C7 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 05:27:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grg@isabase.philol.msu.ru) Received: (from grg@localhost) by isabase.philol.msu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA97535; Tue, 23 May 2000 16:27:22 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from grg) Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 16:27:22 +0400 From: Grigoriy Strokin To: Jim Weeks Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited Message-ID: <20000523162722.A97474@isabase.philol.msu.ru> References: <20000522182937.C9843@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from jim@siteplus.net on Mon, May 22, 2000 at 07:26:50PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 07:26:50PM -0400, Jim Weeks wrote: > > On Mon, 22 May 2000, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > > > Define "it doesn't work" ? > > ad0: 4884MB [10585/15/63] at ata0-master using BIOSDMA > ata1-slave: simplex device, DMA on primary only > acd0: CDROM at ata1-slave using BIOSPIO > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a In my case, I see the message 'dma,dma -> pio,pio' at this point. Maybe try /sbin/sysctl instead of just sysctl? > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > ata0: resetting devices .. done > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > ata0: resetting devices .. done > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > ata0: resetting devices .. done > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > ata0-master: timeout waiting to give command=ef s=eb e=eb > ad0: trying fallback to PIO mode > ata0: resetting devices .. done > > > > > It doesn't switch to pio mode or doesn't stop timeouts ? > > There is no change in the timeouts with or without adding the line to > rc. At least it does eventually fall back to PIO. I understand from some > of the posts that not every case is so. > > > If there was a fix known, for it to be scheduled, it would probably > > already be in the tree. > > I was actually hoping that someone with a fix in the works would > respond ;-) > > I do appreciate your response though. My late Father always said that two > heads were better than one, even if one is a punkin head. Of course that > one would be mine ;_) > > Jim Weeks > -------- A mind is a terrible thing to lose! How I miss mine.. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- === Grigoriy Strokin, Lomonosov University (MGU), Moscow === === contact info: http://isabase.philol.msu.ru/~grg/ === To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 5:43:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebird.china.cx (linuxii.cosco.com.cn [202.96.54.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0874737B89E for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 05:42:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mlist@freebird.china.cx) Received: from hefeng ([172.17.2.166]) by freebird.china.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA13076 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 20:49:28 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from mlist@freebird.china.cx) Message-ID: <000801bfc4b5$3167e3c0$a60211ac@hefeng> From: "He Feng(BJ)" To: Subject: Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 20:48:13 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFC4F8.363CF000" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFC4F8.363CF000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable subscribe freebsd-stable ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFC4F8.363CF000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFC4F8.363CF000-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 7: 5:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D2737B8D6 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 07:05:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA57595 for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 May 2000 10:04:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) From: Michael Lucas Message-Id: <200005231404.KAA57595@blackhelicopters.org> Subject: tun0: Warning: CHAP 0x81 not supported To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 10:04:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I tried over on -questions, and heard nothing... I'm guessing it's because this is obscure enough that nobody there has any fscking clue what's going on. :/ I've searched the mailing list archives, without success. I'm trying to set up a pptp vpn, using pptpclient from ports. Whenever I try to connect, I get: May 23 10:02:24 proxybox (unknown)[2067]: log[pptp_dispatch_ctrl_packet:pptp_ctrl.c:531]: Client connection established. May 23 10:02:25 proxybox (unknown)[2067]: log[pptp_dispatch_ctrl_packet:pptp_ctrl.c:637]: Outgoing call established. May 23 10:02:28 proxybox ppp[2065]: tun0: Warning: CHAP 0x81 not supported Anyone have any idea where to start looking? What is CHAP 0x81? Thanks, ==ml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 7:42:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.freebsd.org.uk [194.242.139.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D0237B826 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 07:42:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (hak.nat.Awfulhak.org [172.31.0.12]) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14775; Tue, 23 May 2000 15:42:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02972; Tue, 23 May 2000 15:42:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200005231442.PAA02972@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Michael Lucas Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: tun0: Warning: CHAP 0x81 not supported In-Reply-To: Message from Michael Lucas of "Tue, 23 May 2000 10:04:56 EDT." <200005231404.KAA57595@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 15:42:26 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This (CHAP 0x81) is M$CHAPv2. An implementation will be committed to -current RSN. The work has been done by Nathan Binkert . > Hello, > > I tried over on -questions, and heard nothing... I'm guessing it's > because this is obscure enough that nobody there has any fscking clue > what's going on. :/ I've searched the mailing list archives, without > success. > > I'm trying to set up a pptp vpn, using pptpclient from ports. > Whenever I try to connect, I get: > > May 23 10:02:24 proxybox (unknown)[2067]: log[pptp_dispatch_ctrl_packet:pptp_ctrl.c:531]: Client connection established. > May 23 10:02:25 proxybox (unknown)[2067]: log[pptp_dispatch_ctrl_packet:pptp_ctrl.c:637]: Outgoing call established. > May 23 10:02:28 proxybox ppp[2065]: tun0: Warning: CHAP 0x81 not supported > > Anyone have any idea where to start looking? What is CHAP 0x81? > > Thanks, > ==ml -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 8: 3:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yoda.dccnet.com (mail.deltacable.com [207.230.239.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1AB737B59F for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 08:03:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kg@dccnet.com) Received: from dccnet.com (unverified [209.5.131.193]) by yoda.dccnet.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.4.6) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 23 May 2000 08:01:33 -0700 Message-ID: <392A9DD2.1CDBBFFC@dccnet.com> Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 08:03:46 -0700 From: "Kevin G. Eliuk" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Lucas Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tun0: Warning: CHAP 0x81 not supported References: <200005231404.KAA57595@blackhelicopters.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michael Lucas wrote: > > Hello, > > I tried over on -questions, and heard nothing... I'm guessing it's > because this is obscure enough that nobody there has any fscking clue > what's going on. :/ I've searched the mailing list archives, without > success. > > I'm trying to set up a pptp vpn, using pptpclient from ports. > Whenever I try to connect, I get: What is the server running on you are trying to connect to? > May 23 10:02:24 proxybox (unknown)[2067]: log[pptp_dispatch_ctrl_packet:pptp_ctrl.c:531]: Client connection established. > May 23 10:02:25 proxybox (unknown)[2067]: log[pptp_dispatch_ctrl_packet:pptp_ctrl.c:637]: Outgoing call established. > May 23 10:02:28 proxybox ppp[2065]: tun0: Warning: CHAP 0x81 not supported > > Anyone have any idea where to start looking? What is CHAP 0x81? I received the same errors in attempting to connect to an NT Server patched eith 128bit SP's. I believe that I found that the specs for MS Chap are not available, therefore I assumed that it was an incompatibility with there product created the error. I posted a couple of questions to see if it was possible, without a response back. In searches I did I came to the conclusion that pptp connections were possible using the tool when you were making a connection to a *nix box acting as a PPTP server. I hope that someone with more network application savvy than I can expand on this. -- Regards, )))))) )))))) )))))) Kevin G. Eliuk )) )) )) )) )) )) http://www.FreeBSD.org )) "Change your operating system, )) )) )) )) )) and You can change your World." )))))) )))))) )))))) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 8:42:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.tvol.com (mail.wgate.com [38.219.83.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0420F37B611 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kway@wgate.com) Received: from way.eng.tvol.net (way.eng.tvol.net [10.32.2.95]) by mail.tvol.com (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA26521; Tue, 23 May 2000 11:34:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by way.eng.tvol.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/way) with ESMTP id LAA33277; Tue, 23 May 2000 11:41:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kway@wgate.com) Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 11:41:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Kevin Way X-Sender: kevin@way.eng.tvol.net To: Michael Lucas Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tun0: Warning: CHAP 0x81 not supported In-Reply-To: <200005231404.KAA57595@blackhelicopters.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Anyone have any idea where to start looking? What is CHAP 0x81? This is MS Chap V2. Somebody more knowledgeable than myself may be able to direct you towards a FreeBSD implementation of it (I've only had to deal with that on Linux). Kevin Way To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 9:26:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1CB837B997 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 09:26:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA58251 for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 May 2000 12:26:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) From: Michael Lucas Message-Id: <200005231626.MAA58251@blackhelicopters.org> Subject: Re: tun0: Warning: CHAP 0x81 not supported In-Reply-To: from Kevin Way at "May 23, 2000 11:41:25 am" To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 12:26:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks to everyone who responded. Some more data points, some requested and some not: When I start pptp, I get: proxybox~;pptp tunnel.website.att.net attpptp (unknown)[214]: log[pptp_dispatch_ctrl_packet:pptp_ctrl.c:531]: Client connection established. (unknown)[214]: log[pptp_dispatch_ctrl_packet:pptp_ctrl.c:637]: Outgoing call established. proxybox~ It actually returned; that's not a ^C that brings me back to a command prompt. I see a connection to the AT&T tunnel server: proxybox~;sockstat USER COMMAND PID FD PROTO LOCAL ADDRESS FOREIGN ADDRESS root pptp 214 4 tcp4 a.b.c.d.1025 135.145.11.129.172 root sshd 208 4 tcp4 192.168.1.1.22 192.168.1.200.1016 The AT&T server is Windows NT, 95, or 98. I've added a route for the host we want to contact behind the PPTP server. Lastly, shouldn't pptp bring up a tun interface? Right now, I have: [deleted other interfaces] tun0: flags=8011 mtu 1500 proxybox~; Thanks for any help! ==ml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 9:59:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.freebsd.org.uk [194.242.139.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947A937B8A8 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 09:59:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (hak.nat.Awfulhak.org [172.31.0.12]) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16375; Tue, 23 May 2000 17:59:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA04013; Tue, 23 May 2000 17:59:03 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200005231659.RAA04013@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Kevin G. Eliuk" Cc: Michael Lucas , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: tun0: Warning: CHAP 0x81 not supported In-Reply-To: Message from "Kevin G. Eliuk" of "Tue, 23 May 2000 08:03:46 PDT." <392A9DD2.1CDBBFFC@dccnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 17:59:03 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I believe that I found that the specs for MS Chap are not available, therefore I > assumed that it was an incompatibility with there product created the error. I > posted a couple of questions to see if it was possible, without a response back. I think they're available in the developr/rfc directory on M$ ftp site, but from what I can tell, most of M$ attempts at standards get rejected by the IETF because of built in kludges... -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 10: 6:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pilot018.cl.msu.edu (pilot018.cl.msu.edu [35.9.5.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56F137B73E for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 10:06:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carls107@msu.edu) Received: from msu.edu (c683804-a.elnsng1.mi.home.com [24.19.88.190]) by pilot018.cl.msu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA55208 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 13:06:30 -0400 Message-ID: <392ABAD9.9842D2A8@msu.edu> Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 13:07:37 -0400 From: "B. Carlson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: One internet connection for many puters? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to set up FreeBSD 4.0 so I can use more than one computer for the internet, I have a cable modem. I followed these steps: http://freebsd.lanfear.com/howtos/firewall.html This is my rc.conf file, I have two network cards, xl0 xl1, the first xl0 is hooked up directly to the net connection, the 2nd is hooked up to a hub. I recompiled my kernel just like the webpage said, Natd is running. linux_enable="YES" gateway_enable="YES" firewall_enable="YES" firewall_type="open" firewall_quiet="NO" natd_enable="YES" natd_interface="xl0" network_interfaces="xl0 xl1 lo0" ifconfig_xl0="inet 24.19.88.190 netmask 255.255.255.0" defaultrouter="24.19.88.1" sshd_enable="YES" hostname="nurdcave.com" ifconfig_xl1="inet 10.10.10.1 netmask 255.255.0.0" I'm trying to setup another BSD box behind the firewall, I specify it with an IP of 10.10.10.2 and tell it the gateway is at 10.10.10.1 with a netmask of 255.255.0.0 and still point it to the DNS server at 24.2.222.33, which is the server of the cable company. Is there any steps in here that I have missed? Am I sending it to the wrong spot? TIA B. Carlson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 10:38:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (adsl-63-206-88-224.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.206.88.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC1DC37B616; Tue, 23 May 2000 10:38:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09316; Tue, 23 May 2000 10:39:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200005231739.KAA09316@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Shawn Barnhart" Cc: "Mike Smith" , "stable" Subject: Re: -CURRENT Mylex on stable? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 May 2000 18:12:12 CDT." <001a01bfc443$29986790$0102a8c0@k6> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 10:39:56 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Smith" > > | 1) Get the diffs. > | > | You will need a CVS repository, or use the cvsweb interface > | at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi to extract the diffs. > | Note that mlx.c, mlx_disk.c, mlx_pci.c and mlxvar.h all changed > | in this fix. > | > | 2) Apply the diffs. > > OK, not to be flippant, but is there any reason I couldn't just use the > CURRENT version of those files? Yes, otherwise I would just have told you to fetch them. > I'm missing where the end result of > diff/patch differs from the files themselves. It's a nice exercise, but > kind of a PITA when you're not a CVS user. The goal is to extract the changes I made to portions of the driver that are largely common between the two versions. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 10:42:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pan.ch.intel.com (pan.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7912B37B76B for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 10:42:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by pan.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.28 2000/05/06 00:07:11 dmccart Exp $) with ESMTP id KAA02571; Tue, 23 May 2000 10:42:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.10 2000/02/10 21:38:16 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id KAA18030; Tue, 23 May 2000 10:42:05 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id NAA21052; Tue, 23 May 2000 13:42:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14634.49901.456972.803076@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 10:42:05 -0700 (MST) To: "B. Carlson" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One internet connection for many puters? In-Reply-To: <392ABAD9.9842D2A8@msu.edu> References: <392ABAD9.9842D2A8@msu.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.3.11 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Tuesday, May 23, B. Carlson wrote: ] > I'm trying to set up FreeBSD 4.0 so I can use more than one computer > for the internet, I have a cable modem. I followed these steps: > http://freebsd.lanfear.com/howtos/firewall.html > > [snip] > > I'm trying to setup another BSD box behind the firewall, I specify > it with an IP of 10.10.10.2 and tell it the gateway is at 10.10.10.1 > with a netmask of 255.255.0.0 and still point it to the DNS server > at 24.2.222.33, which is the server of the cable company. Is > there any steps in here that I have missed? Am I sending it to the > wrong spot? I don't profess to be a Unix GURU, but what I did to accomplish this was: network_interfaces="lo0 mx0" # include my linksys card on mx0 ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" # default loopback device configuration. ifconfig_mx0="inet 192.168.1.2" # Setup local network device defaultrouter="192.168.1.3" # make the default route go to dolphin's ed1 static_routes="" on my "other" box (substitute your 10.x.x.x address for my 192.168.x.x address). The "other" NIC in my gateway was setup as 192.168.1.3 and thus this "defaultrouter" line makes the default route to that machine (which then forwards things appropriately). As far as the DNS, I run named on my gateway so, my /etc/resolv.conf just looks like this: search home-net chnd1.az.home.com nameserver 192.168.1.3 But, I can't imagine why you couldn't just put nameserver 24.2.222.33 in there. The default route line above should make everything "work" (or at least I think ... YMMV :). -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 10:52: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from penchev.staff.orbitel.bg (ns.orbitel.bg [195.24.32.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1CB0437B919 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 10:51:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roam@orbitel.bg) Received: (qmail 44055 invoked from network); 23 May 2000 17:51:21 -0000 Received: from localhost.staff.orbitel.bg (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.staff.orbitel.bg with SMTP; 23 May 2000 17:51:21 -0000 Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 20:51:21 +0300 (EEST) From: Peter Pentchev X-Sender: roam@ringwraith.oblivion.bg To: John Reynolds~ Cc: "B. Carlson" , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One internet connection for many puters? In-Reply-To: <14634.49901.456972.803076@hip186.ch.intel.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Actually, there *could* be a bit of a problem with the DNS. Judging from experience, the DNS queries are transmitted via UDP, which poses a bit of a problem with masquerading. My solution has always been to setup a nameserver on the gateway - either a caching-only nameserver, or - usually - one that also serves to resolve the local machines' addresses - in your case, the 10.10.10.in-addr.arpa zone. Many OS's are happier when they have a hostname along with the local IP address :) I do not really know if it is even possible to make DNS work with an external server - is there some way to masquerade UDP that I've missed? Of course, all of the above is invalid if all the machines in the internal network also have a 24.2.222.x IP address, in which case they would be able to access the nameserver directly; but for some reason, I have a feeling this is not exactly the case. G'luck, Peter On Tue, 23 May 2000, John Reynolds~ wrote: > > [ On Tuesday, May 23, B. Carlson wrote: ] > > I'm trying to set up FreeBSD 4.0 so I can use more than one computer > > for the internet, I have a cable modem. I followed these steps: > > http://freebsd.lanfear.com/howtos/firewall.html > > > > [snip] > > > > I'm trying to setup another BSD box behind the firewall, I specify > > it with an IP of 10.10.10.2 and tell it the gateway is at 10.10.10.1 > > with a netmask of 255.255.0.0 and still point it to the DNS server > > at 24.2.222.33, which is the server of the cable company. Is > > there any steps in here that I have missed? Am I sending it to the > > wrong spot? > [snip] > As far as the DNS, I run named on my gateway so, my /etc/resolv.conf just > looks like this: > > search home-net chnd1.az.home.com > nameserver 192.168.1.3 > > But, I can't imagine why you couldn't just put > > nameserver 24.2.222.33 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 11:19:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47E737B584 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 11:19:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22927; Tue, 23 May 2000 11:17:51 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200005231817.LAA22927@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: One internet connection for many puters? In-Reply-To: from Peter Pentchev at "May 23, 0 08:51:21 pm" To: roam@orbitel.bg (Peter Pentchev) Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 11:17:51 -0700 (MST) Cc: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com, carls107@msu.edu, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Peter Pentchev wrote: > I do not really know if it is even possible to make DNS work with an > external server - is there some way to masquerade UDP that I've > missed? There's absolutely no reason UDP cannot be NATed. My commercial firewall/router/NAT does it fine. It plugs into my cable modem on its public interface, and a hub with its private interface. All the machines on my LAN use the nameservers provided by @home. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 12:13:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.campbell-mithun.com (Mercury.campbell-mithun.com [192.159.32.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C9137B897; Tue, 23 May 2000 12:13:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Received: from accord.grasslake.net (honda.grasslake.net [192.168.1.1]) by mercury.campbell-mithun.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA00818; Tue, 23 May 2000 13:18:18 -0500 Received: from marlowe (Marlowe.campbell-mithun.com [192.159.32.184]) by accord.grasslake.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA16004; Tue, 23 May 2000 14:10:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Message-ID: <015301bfc4ea$f8154c80$b8209fc0@marlowe> From: "Shawn Barnhart" To: "Mike Smith" Cc: "stable" References: <200005231739.KAA09316@mass.cdrom.com> Subject: Re: -CURRENT Mylex on stable? Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 14:13:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Smith" | > I'm missing where the end result of | > diff/patch differs from the files themselves. It's a nice exercise, but | > kind of a PITA when you're not a CVS user. | | The goal is to extract the changes I made to portions of the driver that | are largely common between the two versions. OK, I'm trying even harder not to be flippant. But let me get this straight. There are some changes I want, but some I don't. How am I supposed to know what those changes are? Because it sounds like what you're telling me to do is to merge some changes but not others, without me knowing which specific changes I want. Not to complain (too much), but since I wanted these bugs fixed in the first place, why not just shoot me a set of diffs that would allow me to try the patches under 4-stable? Is there a schedule for MFCing them instead? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 12:21:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (adsl-63-206-88-224.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.206.88.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304C937B8F5 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 12:21:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09766; Tue, 23 May 2000 12:22:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200005231922.MAA09766@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Shawn Barnhart" Cc: "stable" Subject: Re: -CURRENT Mylex on stable? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 May 2000 14:13:24 CDT." <015301bfc4ea$f8154c80$b8209fc0@marlowe> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 12:22:38 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Smith" > > | > I'm missing where the end result of > | > diff/patch differs from the files themselves. It's a nice exercise, but > | > kind of a PITA when you're not a CVS user. > | > | The goal is to extract the changes I made to portions of the driver that > | are largely common between the two versions. > > OK, I'm trying even harder not to be flippant. But let me get this > straight. There are some changes I want, but some I don't. How am I > supposed to know what those changes are? Because it sounds like what you're > telling me to do is to merge some changes but not others, without me knowing > which specific changes I want. You're supposed to take the diffs I pointed you at, which only contain the changes you want. I also supplied you with a web-based interface which details exactly which changes are and aren't relevant to the bug in question. > Not to complain (too much), but since I wanted these bugs fixed in the first > place, why not just shoot me a set of diffs that would allow me to try the > patches under 4-stable? Is there a schedule for MFCing them instead? Because I can't test them under -stable, and I don't have any tools for building an array on a 2.x controller on i386 yet (because I am still _writing_ them), and I am more interested in the 6.x firmware because these controllers are actually out there in the marketplace, and I'm also working on drivers for AMI and 3ware as well as a few others on top of all my other work. And basically, the 2.x firware support was done primarily for folks running Alpha systems, where it's still current and where tools are still easily obtained. In the fullness of time, I'll get the 2.x stuff MFCed, or someone else with a 2.x controller will beat me to it. In the meantime, I'm sorry to say that you've been prioritised. 8( -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 13:21:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE3937B5A8 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 13:21:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bsdx@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA30882; Tue, 23 May 2000 16:21:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 16:21:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam To: "B. Carlson" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: One internet connection for many puters? In-Reply-To: <392ABAD9.9842D2A8@msu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It looks like that page does not cover the necessary firewall rule(s) to allow nat to work, so check the manpage for natd. Its fairly complete and should work if you follow all the steps. Some of the hints in it are a little outdated, so you basically want to find the ipfw divert rule and make sure its being added. Also remember if there is a chance that natd will accidently or otherwise killed, you will lose access to anything you didnt specifically allow with firewall rules before the ipfw divert rule. For instance, you might want to ipfw add 101 allow tcp from any to any 23 to allow telnet (or 22 for ssh, etc) incase natd is stopped without removing the divert rule. On Tue, 23 May 2000, B. Carlson wrote: >I'm trying to set up FreeBSD 4.0 so I can use more than one computer >for the internet, I have a cable modem. I followed these steps: >http://freebsd.lanfear.com/howtos/firewall.html > >This is my rc.conf file, I have two network cards, xl0 xl1, the first >xl0 is hooked up directly to the net connection, the 2nd is hooked >up to a hub. I recompiled my kernel just like the webpage said, >Natd is running. > >linux_enable="YES" >gateway_enable="YES" >firewall_enable="YES" >firewall_type="open" >firewall_quiet="NO" >natd_enable="YES" >natd_interface="xl0" >network_interfaces="xl0 xl1 lo0" >ifconfig_xl0="inet 24.19.88.190 netmask 255.255.255.0" >defaultrouter="24.19.88.1" >sshd_enable="YES" >hostname="nurdcave.com" >ifconfig_xl1="inet 10.10.10.1 netmask 255.255.0.0" > >I'm trying to setup another BSD box behind the firewall, I specify >it with an IP of 10.10.10.2 and tell it the gateway is at 10.10.10.1 >with a netmask of 255.255.0.0 and still point it to the DNS server >at 24.2.222.33, which is the server of the cable company. Is >there any steps in here that I have missed? Am I sending it to the >wrong spot? > >TIA > >B. Carlson > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 13:54:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (ha1.rdc1.il.home.com [24.2.1.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0E837B8E2 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 13:54:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu ([24.12.197.197]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with ESMTP id <20000523205431.YWLL3110.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@math.missouri.edu>; Tue, 23 May 2000 13:54:31 -0700 Message-ID: <392AF00A.3C4BAE43@math.missouri.edu> Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 15:54:34 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "B. Carlson" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, marcw@lanfear.com Subject: Re: One internet connection for many puters? References: <392ABAD9.9842D2A8@msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What a coincidence - I have just done the very same thing myself. I found the most useful reference was the chapters in the "Complete FreeBSD" by Greg Lehay. Before that, it was very hard to figure out how to do this. I looked through the instructions, and it is missing instructions on how to set up the firewall rules. Basically I followed what was in the man page for natd. Also, I added a few options to natd. So, this is what I have: in rc.conf, in addition to what you have: firewall_script="/etc/rc.firewall.mine" natd_flags="-s -m -u -dynamic" and I created a file called rc.firewall.mine containing /sbin/ipfw -f flush /sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via rl1 /sbin/ipfw add pass all from any to any Also, in my config file for compiling the kernel I also had the line options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT I guess that in the end you should remove this line, but at least when debugging I think it would help out. (I found it very disconcerting that as soon as I created the firewall, I could not connect anywhere - especially when like me you really don't know what you are doing.) One of the options I put on natd might require your local area network addresses to be 192.168.xxx.xxx, which is what I have. I also CCed Marc Wandschneider so that if he likes, he could add this info to his web page. "B. Carlson" wrote: > > I'm trying to set up FreeBSD 4.0 so I can use more than one computer > for the internet, I have a cable modem. I followed these steps: > http://freebsd.lanfear.com/howtos/firewall.html > > This is my rc.conf file, I have two network cards, xl0 xl1, the first > xl0 is hooked up directly to the net connection, the 2nd is hooked > up to a hub. I recompiled my kernel just like the webpage said, > Natd is running. > > linux_enable="YES" > gateway_enable="YES" > firewall_enable="YES" > firewall_type="open" > firewall_quiet="NO" > natd_enable="YES" > natd_interface="xl0" > network_interfaces="xl0 xl1 lo0" > ifconfig_xl0="inet 24.19.88.190 netmask 255.255.255.0" > defaultrouter="24.19.88.1" > sshd_enable="YES" > hostname="nurdcave.com" > ifconfig_xl1="inet 10.10.10.1 netmask 255.255.0.0" > > I'm trying to setup another BSD box behind the firewall, I specify > it with an IP of 10.10.10.2 and tell it the gateway is at 10.10.10.1 > with a netmask of 255.255.0.0 and still point it to the DNS server > at 24.2.222.33, which is the server of the cable company. Is > there any steps in here that I have missed? Am I sending it to the > wrong spot? > > TIA > > B. Carlson > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 14:23:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mhub2.tc.umn.edu (mhub2.tc.umn.edu [128.101.131.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D5437B7CE for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 14:23:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drew0054@tc.umn.edu) Received: from garnet.tc.umn.edu by mhub2.tc.umn.edu with ESMTP; Tue, 23 May 2000 16:23:10 -0500 Received: from localhost by garnet.tc.umn.edu with ESMTP; Tue, 23 May 2000 16:23:10 -0500 Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 16:23:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Zachary Drew To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith Cc: "B. Carlson" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: One internet connection for many puters? In-Reply-To: <392AF00A.3C4BAE43@math.missouri.edu> Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > firewall_script="/etc/rc.firewall.mine" > natd_flags="-s -m -u -dynamic" > I highly recomend that you use the "-u" flag. If you don't someone on your cable/dsl/etc subnet and possibly anywhere and the internet could use your machine the same way you use it from your private network (i.e. they could attack someone using you as the default gateway and it would appear to come from you.) This actually should be in the man page. > > One of the options I put on natd might require your local area network > addresses to be 192.168.xxx.xxx, which is what I have. the -u flag will allow 10.0.0.0/8, 172.16.0.0/12 and 192.168.0.0/16, not just 192.168.0.0/16 Zach To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 14:58: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (mail.dohboys.com [208.26.253.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D20937B941 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 14:58:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.62]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 23 May 2000 14:58:06 -0700 Message-ID: <392AFEA3.46FDBDAD@3-cities.com> Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 14:56:51 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Grigoriy Strokin Cc: Jim Weeks , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited References: <20000522182937.C9843@pir.net> <20000523162722.A97474@isabase.philol.msu.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Grigoriy Strokin wrote: > > On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 07:26:50PM -0400, Jim Weeks wrote: > > > > On Mon, 22 May 2000, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > > > > > Define "it doesn't work" ? > > > > ad0: 4884MB [10585/15/63] at ata0-master using BIOSDMA > > ata1-slave: simplex device, DMA on primary only > > acd0: CDROM at ata1-slave using BIOSPIO > > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a > In my case, I see the message 'dma,dma -> pio,pio' > at this point. Maybe try /sbin/sysctl instead > of just sysctl? Have you all done a "man sysctl.conf" Kent > > > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > > ata0: resetting devices .. done > > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > > ata0: resetting devices .. done > > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > > ata0: resetting devices .. done > > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > > ata0-master: timeout waiting to give command=ef s=eb e=eb > > ad0: trying fallback to PIO mode > > ata0: resetting devices .. done > > > > > > > > It doesn't switch to pio mode or doesn't stop timeouts ? > > > > There is no change in the timeouts with or without adding the line to > > rc. At least it does eventually fall back to PIO. I understand from some > > of the posts that not every case is so. > > > > > If there was a fix known, for it to be scheduled, it would probably > > > already be in the tree. > > > > I was actually hoping that someone with a fix in the works would > > respond ;-) > > > > I do appreciate your response though. My late Father always said that two > > heads were better than one, even if one is a punkin head. Of course that > > one would be mine ;_) > > > > Jim Weeks > > -------- A mind is a terrible thing to lose! How I miss mine.. > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > === Grigoriy Strokin, Lomonosov University (MGU), Moscow === > === contact info: http://isabase.philol.msu.ru/~grg/ === > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 15:23:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from berlin.axl.net (berlin.axl.net [216.66.11.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B106037B982 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 15:23:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@axl.net) Received: (qmail 63243 invoked by uid 85); 23 May 2000 22:24:05 -0000 Received: from matt@axl.net by berlin.axl.net with scan4virus-0.19 (sweep: 1.8/3.33. . Clean. Processed in 0.553484 secs); 23/05/2000 22:24:05 Received: from ws-01.matthennigus.lightningdsl.net (HELO sinister) (216.66.30.66) by berlin.axl.net with SMTP; 23 May 2000 22:24:04 -0000 From: "Matthew B. Henniges" To: "FreeBSD Stable" Subject: PCI raid controller recommendations Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 18:26:07 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, thanks for reading. I'm looking for recommendations on PCI raid controllers for freebsd 4-S 1. Support raid level 5. 2. Support LVD style 10000rpm disks 3. bootable? 4. good controller utility 5. low cost I have heard mylex 960's mentioned in the past. Are those recommendations still valid? Can anyone share experiences with the mylex or AMI products? Thanks in advance- Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 15:26:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (adsl-63-206-88-224.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.206.88.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107E737B733 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 15:26:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10388; Tue, 23 May 2000 15:28:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200005232228.PAA10388@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Matthew B. Henniges" Cc: "FreeBSD Stable" Subject: Re: PCI raid controller recommendations In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 May 2000 18:26:07 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 15:28:25 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I'm looking for recommendations on PCI raid controllers for freebsd 4-S Right now - Mylex AcceleRAID 250 (single channel) or eXtremeRAID 1100 (3 -channel). Shortly, I hope to add AMI controllers to this list, as AMI are finally coming up with the goods I need. At the moment, though, they are hard to manage (no userspace tools). > 1. Support raid level 5. > 2. Support LVD style 10000rpm disks > 3. bootable? > 4. good controller utility > 5. low cost > > I have heard mylex 960's mentioned in the past. Are those recommendations > still valid? > Can anyone share experiences with the mylex or AMI products? -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 22: 7:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yoda.dccnet.com (mail.deltacable.com [207.230.239.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D68F37BA33 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 22:07:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kg@dccnet.com) Received: from dccnet.com (unverified [209.5.131.193]) by yoda.dccnet.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.4.6) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 22:05:08 -0700 Message-ID: <392B638E.3F319B16@dccnet.com> Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 22:07:26 -0700 From: "Kevin G. Eliuk" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Proper method of updating XFree86 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Installed "X" during a fresh install of 3.4, and have since sup-graded to 4.0-STABLE. I would like to update with the ports to XFree86-4.0 from 3.3.5. Being it is not a registered pkg, I cannot do a make deinstall or a pkg_delete. What is the best way to update and be able to not leave anything from the old distibution that can affect the performance or stability of the update? Or Is there an issue to worry about? -- Regards, )))))) )))))) )))))) Kevin G. Eliuk )) )) )) )) )) )) http://www.FreeBSD.org )) "Change your operating system, )) )) )) )) )) and You can change your World." )))))) )))))) )))))) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 22:18:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F1E37BBDC for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 22:18:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zicc@bellatlantic.net) Received: from bellatlantic.net (adsl-151-201-20-104.bellatlantic.net [151.201.20.104]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA18787 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 01:18:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <392B6647.887DCBBA@bellatlantic.net> Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 01:19:03 -0400 From: Chad Ziccardi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Xfree-4 WAS: Re: Proper method of updating XFree86 References: <392B638E.3F319B16@dccnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Kevin G. Eliuk" wrote: > > Hello, > > Installed "X" during a fresh install of 3.4, and have since sup-graded to > 4.0-STABLE. I would like to update with the ports to XFree86-4.0 from 3.3.5. > > Being it is not a registered pkg, I cannot do a make deinstall or a pkg_delete. > > What is the best way to update and be able to not leave anything from the old > distibution that can affect the performance or stability of the update? > > Or > > Is there an issue to worry about? I just cvsup'd to 4-stable, currently under the new ports as well, /usr/ports/x11/Xfree-4 is forbidden (yup I could comment the line out, and I have, since no one can reach that computer (rarely attached to my network)) If the port maintainer knows the problem and thus it's marked forbidden, why not just fix it? Maybe I'm off base here, and thus I apologize. --CZ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 23: 3: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yoda.dccnet.com (mail.deltacable.com [207.230.239.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2BD37BBE7 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 23:03:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kg@dccnet.com) Received: from dccnet.com (unverified [209.5.131.193]) by yoda.dccnet.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.4.6) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 23 May 2000 23:00:42 -0700 Message-ID: <392B708F.F1F79940@dccnet.com> Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 23:02:55 -0700 From: "Kevin G. Eliuk" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chad Ziccardi Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Xfree-4 WAS: Re: Proper method of updating XFree86 References: <392B638E.3F319B16@dccnet.com> <392B6647.887DCBBA@bellatlantic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chad Ziccardi wrote: > > If the port maintainer knows the problem and thus it's marked forbidden, > why not just fix it? Maybe I'm off base here, and thus I apologize. Thanks for pointing that out. I only want to update for cosmetic reasons. It does point to a small consideration while using sysinstall. It is "so" simple to install and setup X at installation. Jobs well done :-) Would it be, or has it been, a suggestion that the installation of "X" on a clean install, include an entry in /var/db/pkg? -- Regards, )))))) )))))) )))))) Kevin G. Eliuk )) )) )) )) )) )) http://www.FreeBSD.org )) "Change your operating system, )) )) )) )) )) and You can change your World." )))))) )))))) )))))) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 23 23: 5:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tigger.nu.org (aglet10.zip.com.au [61.8.19.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5AF37BDA2 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 23:05:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vance@nu.org) Received: by tigger.nu.org (Postfix, from userid 342) id 8700D29F; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:05:18 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 16:05:18 +1000 From: Christopher Vance To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: kdump is broken in 4.0-S Message-ID: <20000524160518.A6415@nu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG # cd /usr/src/usr.bin/kdump # make cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../ktrace -I/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../.. -c ioctl.c In file included from ioctl.c:88: /usr/include/sys/memrange.h:18: warning: `MDF_ACTIVE' redefined /usr/include/pccard/cardinfo.h:80: warning: this is the location of the previous definition In file included from ioctl.c:104: /usr/include/sys/cdrio.h:59: warning: `CDRIOCBLANK' redefined /usr/include/sys/wormio.h:102: warning: this is the location of the previous definition ioctl.c: In function `ioctlname': ioctl.c:1419: syntax error before `struct' ioctl.c:2087: syntax error before `struct' *** Error code 1 Repeated cvsup's and make world's over the last weeks have not fixed this. I'm sure it worked earlier this year, but there's nothing in the archives from this year in -stable, -current, or -questions. Did I miss something? -- Christopher Vance To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 3:48:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from god.euronet.nl (god.euronet.nl [194.134.32.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB43B37BC89 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 03:48:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michel@god.euronet.nl) Received: (from michel@localhost) by god.euronet.nl (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e4OAmTp49692 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 May 2000 12:48:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 12:48:29 +0200 From: Michel Quadflieg To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Time not in sync Message-ID: <20000524124829.A49354@god.euronet.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD god.euronet.nl 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-Organization: EuroNet Internet BV Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hya all, I recently installed a FreeBSD-4.0 Stable machine. I just have a stupid problem. The time is now not running ok anymore I tried several things but the clock runs slower than it must be. I have to sync it every few minutes or it gets behind. The machine previously ran FreeBSD-3.4 Stable real well and was up for 130 days without ever having clock problems. Any ideas would be appreciated to get rid of this problem. -- Michel Quadflieg IS/IT Operations EuroNet * Internet BV * * Muiderstraat 1 * * 1011 PZ Amsterdam * * Tel: +31 (0)20 535 52 48 * Fax: +31 (0)20 535 54 00 E-mail:michel@euro.net * GSM: +31 (0)6 28 2060 14 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 4:48: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isabase.philol.msu.ru (isabase.philol.msu.ru [195.208.217.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F315137B71F for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 04:46:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grg@isabase.philol.msu.ru) Received: (from grg@localhost) by isabase.philol.msu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA12011; Wed, 24 May 2000 15:46:17 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from grg) Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 15:46:17 +0400 From: Grigoriy Strokin To: Kent Stewart Cc: Grigoriy Strokin , Jim Weeks , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited Message-ID: <20000524154617.A11855@isabase.philol.msu.ru> References: <20000522182937.C9843@pir.net> <20000523162722.A97474@isabase.philol.msu.ru> <392AFEA3.46FDBDAD@3-cities.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <392AFEA3.46FDBDAD@3-cities.com>; from kstewart@3-cities.com on Tue, May 23, 2000 at 02:56:51PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 23, 2000 at 02:56:51PM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > Grigoriy Strokin wrote: > > > > On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 07:26:50PM -0400, Jim Weeks wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 22 May 2000, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > > > > > > > Define "it doesn't work" ? > > > > > > ad0: 4884MB [10585/15/63] at ata0-master using BIOSDMA > > > ata1-slave: simplex device, DMA on primary only > > > acd0: CDROM at ata1-slave using BIOSPIO > > > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a > > In my case, I see the message 'dma,dma -> pio,pio' > > at this point. Maybe try /sbin/sysctl instead > > of just sysctl? > > Have you all done a "man sysctl.conf" We all have done many things, including that... And I personally know that the earlier dma,dma -> pio,pio is done, the better is the chance that the filesystem will not be corrupted and I will not have to look for all my files in /usr/lost+found > Kent > > > > > > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > > > ata0: resetting devices .. done > > > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > > > ata0: resetting devices .. done > > > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > > > ata0: resetting devices .. done > > > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > > > ata0-master: timeout waiting to give command=ef s=eb e=eb > > > ad0: trying fallback to PIO mode > > > ata0: resetting devices .. done > > > > > > > > > > > It doesn't switch to pio mode or doesn't stop timeouts ? > > > > > > There is no change in the timeouts with or without adding the line to > > > rc. At least it does eventually fall back to PIO. I understand from some > > > of the posts that not every case is so. > > > > > > > If there was a fix known, for it to be scheduled, it would probably > > > > already be in the tree. > > > > > > I was actually hoping that someone with a fix in the works would > > > respond ;-) > > > > > > I do appreciate your response though. My late Father always said that two > > > heads were better than one, even if one is a punkin head. Of course that > > > one would be mine ;_) > > > > > > Jim Weeks > > > -------- A mind is a terrible thing to lose! How I miss mine.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > === Grigoriy Strokin, Lomonosov University (MGU), Moscow === > > === contact info: http://isabase.philol.msu.ru/~grg/ === > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > > mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > > SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME > http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ > > Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- === Grigoriy Strokin, Lomonosov University (MGU), Moscow === === contact info: http://isabase.philol.msu.ru/~grg/ === To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 5:31: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from god.euronet.nl (god.euronet.nl [194.134.32.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D62F037B91B for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 05:31:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michel@god.euronet.nl) Received: (from michel@localhost) by god.euronet.nl (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e4OCV4X55497 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 May 2000 14:31:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 14:31:04 +0200 From: Michel Quadflieg To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Time loss Message-ID: <20000524143104.A55168@god.euronet.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD god.euronet.nl 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-Organization: EuroNet Internet BV Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hya all, The problem of my slow time run is even worse than I thought. The machine's clock loses about 3 minutes every 5 real minutes. To give you more information about the system : Pentium 233 MMX 256 RAM Asus mainbord FreeBSD 4.0 Stable cv supped Sunday 21 may The system previously ran 3.0-release till 3.4 stable without ever having this problem... Since I had a problem while upgrading I had to do a clean 4.0-release install after which I made a 4.0-stable upgrade which went flawless except this problem. The kernel is generic except I put in the firewall information and quotas and disabled the lnc0 driver. -- Michel Quadflieg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 5:49:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from barter.dewline.com (barter.dewline.com [209.208.153.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B136937BA18 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 05:49:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mackler@barter.dewline.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by barter.dewline.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA18576; Wed, 24 May 2000 08:49:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 08:49:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200005241249.IAA18576@barter.dewline.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: make buildworld failing on libssh From: Adam Mackler Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have cvsuped the RELENG_4 stable-supfile with the international secure-supfile, and when I make buildworld it fails, saying: cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c -o auth-skey.o /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c: In function `auth_skey_password': /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c:20: warning: initialization makes pointer from integer without a cast /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c: In function `skey_fake_keyinfo': /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c:160: `OPIE_HASHNAME_MAX' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c:160: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c:160: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 I've reinstalled all the sources and am still having this problem. Does anyone either know what I'm doing wrong, or have any suggestions of directions in which to look for solutions. I will happily provide any further information that may assist. Thanks in advance. adam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 5:58:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pilot018.cl.msu.edu (pilot018.cl.msu.edu [35.9.5.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A0437BA12 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 05:58:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carls107@msu.edu) Received: from mis46153.msu.edu ([204.22.154.148]) by pilot018.cl.msu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA108404 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 08:58:53 -0400 Message-Id: <4.3.0.20000524085507.00aca1e0@pilot.msu.edu> X-Sender: carls107@pilot.msu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 08:58:22 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Ben Carlson Subject: Vinum Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just got the Vinum working on FreeBSD 4.0 stable, everything worked great. I have two 30 gig drives that concatenated together just great. I did have one quick question, I have a 20 gig drive that I want to add to the two 30 gig drives, but it has stuff on it, will putting it together with the other two drives destroy the data that is on the drive? TIA, B. Carlson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 6:21:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C70A37B80D; Wed, 24 May 2000 06:21:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zicc@bellatlantic.net) Received: from bellatlantic.net (adsl-151-201-20-104.bellatlantic.net [151.201.20.104]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA21697; Wed, 24 May 2000 09:21:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <392BD76A.56E77FA8@bellatlantic.net> Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 09:21:46 -0400 From: Chad Ziccardi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: [Fwd: Re: Xfree-4 WAS: Re: Proper method of updating XFree86] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think he meant this to goto the list, my apologies if I X-post to the wrong one. --CZ -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Xfree-4 WAS: Re: Proper method of updating XFree86 Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 08:13:59 -0500 From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "Chad Ziccardi" References: <392B638E.3F319B16@dccnet.com> <392B6647.887DCBBA@bellatlantic.net> Can anybody point me to a link that describes this "Hole"? I have not found any such report anywhere, as of about two weeks ago. Tom Veldhouse veldy@veldy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Chad Ziccardi To: Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 12:19 AM Subject: Xfree-4 WAS: Re: Proper method of updating XFree86 > "Kevin G. Eliuk" wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > Installed "X" during a fresh install of 3.4, and have since sup-graded to > > 4.0-STABLE. I would like to update with the ports to XFree86-4.0 from 3.3.5. > > > > Being it is not a registered pkg, I cannot do a make deinstall or a pkg_delete. > > > > What is the best way to update and be able to not leave anything from the old > > distibution that can affect the performance or stability of the update? > > > > Or > > > > Is there an issue to worry about? > > I just cvsup'd to 4-stable, currently under the new ports as well, > /usr/ports/x11/Xfree-4 is forbidden (yup I could comment the line out, and > I have, since no one can reach that computer (rarely attached to my > network)) > > If the port maintainer knows the problem and thus it's marked forbidden, > why not just fix it? Maybe I'm off base here, and thus I apologize. > > --CZ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 6:48:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44DF337B80D for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 06:48:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id GAA25373; Wed, 24 May 2000 06:46:57 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda25371; Wed May 24 06:46:38 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id GAA09026; Wed, 24 May 2000 06:46:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdZn9024; Wed May 24 06:45:54 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.10.1/8.9.1) id e4ODjqG21909; Wed, 24 May 2000 06:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200005241345.e4ODjqG21909@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdR21905; Wed May 24 06:45:11 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-Sender: cy To: Kent Stewart Cc: Grigoriy Strokin , Jim Weeks , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 May 2000 14:56:51 PDT." <392AFEA3.46FDBDAD@3-cities.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 06:45:10 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <392AFEA3.46FDBDAD@3-cities.com>, Kent Stewart writes: > > > Grigoriy Strokin wrote: > > > > On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 07:26:50PM -0400, Jim Weeks wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 22 May 2000, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > > > > > > > Define "it doesn't work" ? > > > > > > ad0: 4884MB [10585/15/63] at ata0-master using BIOSDMA > > > ata1-slave: simplex device, DMA on primary only > > > acd0: CDROM at ata1-slave using BIOSPIO > > > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a > > In my case, I see the message 'dma,dma -> pio,pio' > > at this point. Maybe try /sbin/sysctl instead > > of just sysctl? > > Have you all done a "man sysctl.conf" Actually, have you? Read it and see why it will probably not help here. > > Kent > > > > > > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > > > ata0: resetting devices .. done > > > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > > > ata0: resetting devices .. done > > > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > > > ata0: resetting devices .. done > > > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > > > ata0-master: timeout waiting to give command=ef s=eb e=eb > > > ad0: trying fallback to PIO mode > > > ata0: resetting devices .. done > > > > > > > > > > > It doesn't switch to pio mode or doesn't stop timeouts ? > > > > > > There is no change in the timeouts with or without adding the line to > > > rc. At least it does eventually fall back to PIO. I understand from som > e > > > of the posts that not every case is so. > > > > > > > If there was a fix known, for it to be scheduled, it would probably > > > > already be in the tree. > > > > > > I was actually hoping that someone with a fix in the works would > > > respond ;-) > > > > > > I do appreciate your response though. My late Father always said that tw > o > > > heads were better than one, even if one is a punkin head. Of course that > > > one would be mine ;_) > > > > > > Jim Weeks > > > -------- A mind is a terrible thing to lose! How I miss mine.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > === Grigoriy Strokin, Lomonosov University (MGU), Moscow === > > === contact info: http://isabase.philol.msu.ru/~grg/ === > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > > mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > > SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME > http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ > > Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 7: 8:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blues.jpj.net (blues.jpj.net [204.97.17.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD5E37B99A; Wed, 24 May 2000 07:08:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trevor@jpj.net) Received: from localhost (trevor@localhost) by blues.jpj.net (right/backatcha) with ESMTP id e4OE8LR19931; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:08:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 10:08:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Trevor Johnson To: Chad Ziccardi Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Xfree-4 WAS: Re: Proper method of updating XFree86] In-Reply-To: <392BD76A.56E77FA8@bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Can anybody point me to a link that describes this "Hole"? I have not > found > any such report anywhere, as of about two weeks ago. > Tom Veldhouse http://jpj.net/~trevor/xfree.html > From: Chad Ziccardi > > > Being it is not a registered pkg, I cannot do a make deinstall or a > pkg_delete. > > > > > > What is the best way to update and be able to not leave anything from > the old > > > distibution that can affect the performance or stability of the update? > > > > > > Or > > > > > > Is there an issue to worry about? I've noticed these problems: - the format of XF86Config has changed, so I had to make minor changes to the working one I had. - the xterm that comes with XFree86 4.0 doesn't display colors correctly when I do set prompt="%{\e[32;43m%}%~%{\e[37;40m%} " in tcsh. Saving the 3.3.6 xterm or using one from Thomas Dickey's site might do the trick. Someone was working on a port of the latter. - I haven't figured out how to get the 4.0 X server to play nicely with moused. I had Device "/dev/sysmouse" in my old XF86Config file and was able to use the mouse both in X and in text mode. XFree86 4.0 won't use that. What I'm doing at the moment is killing moused before switching to X, then running it again when I switch back to text mode. If I switch into X while moused is running, I'll have to log in over the network to kill moused, because the keyboard becomes unusable (of course, the power switch still works). > > I just cvsup'd to 4-stable, currently under the new ports as well, > > /usr/ports/x11/Xfree-4 is forbidden (yup I could comment the line out, and > > I have, since no one can reach that computer (rarely attached to my > > network)) > > > > If the port maintainer knows the problem and thus it's marked forbidden, > > why not just fix it? Maybe I'm off base here, and thus I apologize. I've prepared a patch that fixes it for me. I e-mailed it yesterday to the person who reported the problem on BUGTRAQ, the maintainer of the XFree86-4 port, the person who marked the port forbidden, and the freebsd-ports mailing list, asking them to review it. So far there has been no response. The message is archived at http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/FreeBSD/167/25/3781546/ and the patch itself is at http://jpj.net/~trevor/freebsd/ports/xfree.diff . -- Trevor Johnson http://jpj.net/~trevor/gpgkey.txt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 7:12:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ramstind.gtf.ol.no (ramstind.gtf.ol.no [128.39.174.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF05837B80D for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 07:12:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by ramstind.gtf.ol.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA50362; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:12:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 16:12:28 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= To: Michel Quadflieg Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Time not in sync In-Reply-To: <20000524124829.A49354@god.euronet.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 24 May 2000, Michel Quadflieg wrote: > I recently installed a FreeBSD-4.0 Stable machine. I just have a stupid > problem. The time is now not running ok anymore I tried several things but > the clock runs slower than it must be. I have to sync it every few minutes > or it gets behind. > The machine previously ran FreeBSD-3.4 Stable real well and was up for 130 > days without ever having clock problems. > Any ideas would be appreciated to get rid of this problem. Do you use [x]ntpd or ntpdate to synchronize the time of day? If you use ntpdate, how often do you sync? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Trond Endrestøl | trond@gtf.ol.no Merkantilvegen 59HB7, | trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no N-2815 GJØVIK, NORWAY |+47 61139424 || +47 63874242 Patron of The Art of Computer Programming| FreeBSD 3.4 & Pine 4.21 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 7:22:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from maillist.kabelfoon.nl (maillist.kabelfoon.nl [194.178.9.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E1237BC74 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 07:22:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sdehaan@caiw.nl) Received: from 192.168.8.115 (unknown [192.168.8.115]) by maillist.kabelfoon.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466E33ABF; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:22:36 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sdehaan@192.168.1.133 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200005241249.IAA18576@barter.dewline.com> References: <200005241249.IAA18576@barter.dewline.com> X-Company: Kabelfoon B.V. X-NCC-Regid: nl.kabelfoon Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 16:22:42 +0200 To: Adam Mackler , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Koos de Haan Subject: Re: make buildworld failing on libssh Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Adam, I had the same problem. I think the sup of internat.freebsd.org is against CURRENT instead against RELENG_4. I restored the old source and i'm not using secure supfile at the moment. Regards, Koos de Haan Op 08:49 -0400 24-05-2000, Adam Mackler schreef: > I have cvsuped the RELENG_4 stable-supfile with the > international secure-supfile, and when I make buildworld it fails, > saying: > > cc -O -pipe -DSKEY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c -o auth-skey.o > /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c: In function `auth_skey_password': > /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c:20: warning: initialization makes pointer from integer without a cast > /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c: In function `skey_fake_keyinfo': > /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c:160: `OPIE_HASHNAME_MAX' undeclared (first use in this function) > /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c:160: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > /usr/src/secure/lib/libssh/../../../crypto/openssh/auth-skey.c:160: for each function it appears in.) > *** Error code 1 > > > I've reinstalled all the sources and am still having this problem. > Does anyone either know what I'm doing wrong, or have any suggestions > of directions in which to look for solutions. I will happily provide > any further information that may assist. Thanks in advance. > > adam > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message - -- Kabelfoon BV Industriestraat 30, Postbus 45, 2670 AA NAALDWIJK Telefoon: 0174-615430 Fax: 0174-623860 Helpdesk: 0900-5224357 (44ct/min) Abonnementen: 0800-5223666 e-mail info@kabelfoon.nl voor informatie, kabelfoon@kabelfoon.nl voor abonnementszaken, help@kabelfoon.nl voor de helpdesk Homepage : http://www.kabelfoon.nl/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 7:59:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from berlin.axl.net (berlin.axl.net [216.66.11.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 43E6237BCBF for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 07:59:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@axl.net) Received: (qmail 64287 invoked by uid 85); 24 May 2000 15:00:54 -0000 Received: from matt@axl.net by berlin.axl.net with scan4virus-0.19 (sweep: 1.8/3.33. . Clean. Processed in 0.643676 secs); 24/05/2000 15:00:53 Received: from ws-01.matthennigus.lightningdsl.net (HELO sinister) (216.66.30.66) by berlin.axl.net with SMTP; 24 May 2000 15:00:53 -0000 From: "Matthew B. Henniges" To: "FreeBSD Stable" Cc: "Mike Smith" Subject: RE: PCI raid controller recommendations Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 11:02:53 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200005232228.PAA10388@mass.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What driver is the eXtremeRAID 1100 supported under? mlx? can you boot off it? Matthew B. Henniges CoPresident Axl.net Communications http://www.axl.net (203) 552-1714 > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Smith [mailto:msmith@freebsd.org] > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 6:28 PM > To: Matthew B. Henniges > Cc: FreeBSD Stable > Subject: Re: PCI raid controller recommendations > > > > I'm looking for recommendations on PCI raid controllers for freebsd 4-S > > Right now - Mylex AcceleRAID 250 (single channel) or eXtremeRAID 1100 (3 > -channel). > > Shortly, I hope to add AMI controllers to this list, as AMI are finally > coming up with the goods I need. At the moment, though, they are hard to > manage (no userspace tools). > > > 1. Support raid level 5. > > 2. Support LVD style 10000rpm disks > > 3. bootable? > > 4. good controller utility > > 5. low cost > > > > I have heard mylex 960's mentioned in the past. Are those > recommendations > > still valid? > > Can anyone share experiences with the mylex or AMI products? > > -- > \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith > \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 8: 5:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A7C37BCC2 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 08:05:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 12uciT-0004PK-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 24 May 2000 11:05:01 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 11:05:00 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited Message-ID: <20000524110500.B16056@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <392AFEA3.46FDBDAD@3-cities.com> <200005241345.e4ODjqG21909@cwsys.cwsent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sent-via: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200005241345.e4ODjqG21909@cwsys.cwsent.com>; from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca on Wed, May 24, 2000 at 06:45:10AM -0700 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group probably said: > > Have you all done a "man sysctl.conf" > Actually, have you? Read it and see why it will probably not help here. DESCRIPTION The /etc/sysctl.conf file is read in when the system goes into multi-user mode to set default settings for the kernel. The /etc/sysctl.conf is in You want it to happen before the system goes multiuser, hence putting /sbin/sysctl right at the start of /etc/rc Unless you see the , -> line, it isn't actually happening. I have it as the first non-comment in /etc/rc on my laptop (the only IDE disk machine I have) and it works for me. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 8:44: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC6FA37BCC3 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 08:44:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id IAA25750 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 08:44:00 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda25748; Wed May 24 08:43:46 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA09750 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 08:43:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdMi9748; Wed May 24 08:42:55 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.10.1/8.9.1) id e4OFgte22439 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 08:42:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200005241542.e4OFgte22439@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdR22435; Wed May 24 08:42:29 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-Sender: cy To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 May 2000 11:05:00 EDT." <20000524110500.B16056@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 08:42:28 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000524110500.B16056@pir.net>, Peter Radcliffe writes: > Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group probably > said: > > > Have you all done a "man sysctl.conf" > > Actually, have you? Read it and see why it will probably not help here. > > DESCRIPTION > The /etc/sysctl.conf file is read in when the system goes into multi-use > r > mode to set default settings for the kernel. The /etc/sysctl.conf is in > > You want it to happen before the system goes multiuser, hence putting > /sbin/sysctl right at the start of /etc/rc > > Unless you see the , -> line, it isn't actually > happening. > > I have it as the first non-comment in /etc/rc on my laptop (the only > IDE disk machine I have) and it works for me. Exactly. You want to set it long before the system goes multi-user, preferably just after boot. A sysctl like this one should be settable in loader.conf or be a boot argument. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 9:50:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.wplus.net (relay.wplus.net [195.131.52.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71DB37BC8B for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 09:50:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lev@imc.macro.ru) Received: from kernigan.wplus.net (kernigan.wplus.net [195.131.52.178]) by relay.wplus.net (8.9.1/8.9.1/wplus.2) with ESMTP id UAA27588 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 20:50:20 +0400 (MSD) X-Real-To: Received: from lev.sereb.net (ip-164.dialup.wplus.net [195.131.1.164]) by kernigan.wplus.net (8.9.1/8.9.1/wplus.2) with ESMTP id UAA09534 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 20:50:05 +0400 (GMT+0400) Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 20:57:46 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.41) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <16873.000524@imc.macro.ru> To: All Subject: ntpdate could not sync time from any server. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, All! I need to sync time on my home computer with FreeBSD-3.4 stable. Here is problem: ntpdate could not sync time. I've tried many servers, include nearest ones. I have good V.90 connection. Here is typical output of ntpdate: freebsd#ntpdate -d ntp1.gamma.ru ntp2.gamma.ru kremvax.demos.ru 24 May 20:49:45 ntpdate: ntpdate version=3.4e (beta multicast); Thu Jan 13 05:04:40 MSK 2000 (1) transmit(194.186.254.22) transmit(158.250.39.19) transmit(194.87.0.20) receive(194.87.0.20) transmit(194.87.0.20) receive(158.250.39.19) transmit(158.250.39.19) receive(194.87.0.20) transmit(194.87.0.20) transmit(194.186.254.22) receive(158.250.39.19) transmit(158.250.39.19) receive(158.250.39.19) transmit(158.250.39.19) transmit(194.87.0.20) receive(194.87.0.20) transmit(194.87.0.20) receive(158.250.39.19) transmit(158.250.39.19) transmit(194.186.254.22) receive(194.186.254.22) transmit(194.186.254.22) transmit(194.186.254.22) server 194.186.254.22, port 123 stratum 2, precision -18, leap 00, trust 000 refid [130.149.17.21], delay 0.42767, dispersion 56.00000 transmitted 4, in filter 4 reference time: bcd6865f.cc9f5000 Wed, May 24 2000 20:48:31.799 originate timestamp: bcd6868a.c68e1000 Wed, May 24 2000 20:49:14.775 transmit timestamp: bcd686ac.2c2ca000 Wed, May 24 2000 20:49:48.172 filter delay: 0.00000 0.00000 0.42767 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 filter offset: 0.000000 0.000000 -33.1947 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 delay 0.42767, dispersion 56.00000 offset -33.194704 server 158.250.39.19, port 123 stratum 2, precision -18, leap 00, trust 000 refid [130.149.17.8], delay 0.45406, dispersion 0.00153 transmitted 4, in filter 4 reference time: bcd68626.892fd000 Wed, May 24 2000 20:47:34.535 originate timestamp: bcd6868a.55a1e000 Wed, May 24 2000 20:49:14.334 transmit timestamp: bcd686ab.4adde000 Wed, May 24 2000 20:49:47.292 filter delay: 0.47745 0.45406 0.46445 0.46437 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 filter offset: -33.1735 -33.1771 -33.1809 -33.1774 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 delay 0.45406, dispersion 0.00153 offset -33.177180 server 194.87.0.20, port 123 stratum 2, precision -18, leap 00, trust 000 refid [130.149.17.21], delay 0.15648, dispersion 8.00620 transmitted 4, in filter 4 reference time: bcd6864b.e8b18000 Wed, May 24 2000 20:48:11.908 originate timestamp: bcd6868a.1b435000 Wed, May 24 2000 20:49:14.106 transmit timestamp: bcd686ab.5e9b0000 Wed, May 24 2000 20:49:47.369 filter delay: 0.19679 0.16310 0.00000 0.15648 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 filter offset: -33.3466 -33.3254 0.000000 -33.3290 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 delay 0.15648, dispersion 8.00620 offset -33.329014 24 May 20:49:49 ntpdate: step time server 194.186.254.22 offset -33.194704 freebsd#ntpdate ntp1.gamma.ru ntp2.gamma.ru kremvax.demos.ru 24 May 20:50:20 ntpdate: no server suitable for synchronization found Lev Serebryakov, 2:5030/661.0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 10:15:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from firewall.symark.com (firewall.symark.westlake.iswest.net [207.178.203.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8B037BD30 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:15:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ggross@symark.com) Received: (from mailer@localhost) by firewall.symark.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA20901; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:15:37 -0700 Received: from camel.symark.com(128.1.1.97) by firewall.symark.com via smap (V2.1/2.1+anti-relay+anti-spam) id xma020878; Wed, 24 May 00 10:15:08 -0700 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:15:22 -0700 Message-ID: <01BFC568.F898D720.ggross@symark.com> From: Glen Gross Reply-To: "ggross@symark.com" To: "'Lev Serebryakov'" , All Subject: RE: ntpdate could not sync time from any server. Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 10:15:21 -0700 Organization: Symark Software X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have had the same experience, with a DSL line. I don't know if ntpdate requires the time to be within a certain threshold before it will sync or not. Does anyone know the answer to this? On Wednesday, May 24, 2000 9:58 AM, Lev Serebryakov [SMTP:lev@imc.macro.ru] wrote: > Hi, All! > > I need to sync time on my home computer with FreeBSD-3.4 stable. > Here is problem: ntpdate could not sync time. I've tried many > servers, include nearest ones. I have good V.90 connection. > Here is typical output of ntpdate: > > freebsd#ntpdate -d ntp1.gamma.ru ntp2.gamma.ru kremvax.demos.ru > 24 May 20:49:45 ntpdate: ntpdate version=3.4e (beta multicast); Thu Jan 13 > 05:04:40 MSK 2000 (1) > transmit(194.186.254.22) > transmit(158.250.39.19) > transmit(194.87.0.20) > receive(194.87.0.20) > transmit(194.87.0.20) > receive(158.250.39.19) > transmit(158.250.39.19) > receive(194.87.0.20) > transmit(194.87.0.20) > transmit(194.186.254.22) > receive(158.250.39.19) > transmit(158.250.39.19) > receive(158.250.39.19) > transmit(158.250.39.19) > transmit(194.87.0.20) > receive(194.87.0.20) > transmit(194.87.0.20) > receive(158.250.39.19) > transmit(158.250.39.19) > transmit(194.186.254.22) > receive(194.186.254.22) > transmit(194.186.254.22) > transmit(194.186.254.22) > server 194.186.254.22, port 123 > stratum 2, precision -18, leap 00, trust 000 > refid [130.149.17.21], delay 0.42767, dispersion 56.00000 > transmitted 4, in filter 4 > reference time: bcd6865f.cc9f5000 Wed, May 24 2000 20:48:31.799 > originate timestamp: bcd6868a.c68e1000 Wed, May 24 2000 20:49:14.775 > transmit timestamp: bcd686ac.2c2ca000 Wed, May 24 2000 20:49:48.172 > filter delay: 0.00000 0.00000 0.42767 0.00000 > 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 > filter offset: 0.000000 0.000000 -33.1947 0.000000 > 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 > delay 0.42767, dispersion 56.00000 > offset -33.194704 > > server 158.250.39.19, port 123 > stratum 2, precision -18, leap 00, trust 000 > refid [130.149.17.8], delay 0.45406, dispersion 0.00153 > transmitted 4, in filter 4 > reference time: bcd68626.892fd000 Wed, May 24 2000 20:47:34.535 > originate timestamp: bcd6868a.55a1e000 Wed, May 24 2000 20:49:14.334 > transmit timestamp: bcd686ab.4adde000 Wed, May 24 2000 20:49:47.292 > filter delay: 0.47745 0.45406 0.46445 0.46437 > 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 > filter offset: -33.1735 -33.1771 -33.1809 -33.1774 > 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 > delay 0.45406, dispersion 0.00153 > offset -33.177180 > > server 194.87.0.20, port 123 > stratum 2, precision -18, leap 00, trust 000 > refid [130.149.17.21], delay 0.15648, dispersion 8.00620 > transmitted 4, in filter 4 > reference time: bcd6864b.e8b18000 Wed, May 24 2000 20:48:11.908 > originate timestamp: bcd6868a.1b435000 Wed, May 24 2000 20:49:14.106 > transmit timestamp: bcd686ab.5e9b0000 Wed, May 24 2000 20:49:47.369 > filter delay: 0.19679 0.16310 0.00000 0.15648 > 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 > filter offset: -33.3466 -33.3254 0.000000 -33.3290 > 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 > delay 0.15648, dispersion 8.00620 > offset -33.329014 > > 24 May 20:49:49 ntpdate: step time server 194.186.254.22 offset -33.194704 > freebsd#ntpdate ntp1.gamma.ru ntp2.gamma.ru kremvax.demos.ru > 24 May 20:50:20 ntpdate: no server suitable for synchronization found > > > Lev Serebryakov, 2:5030/661.0 > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message Glen Gross Unix Technical Support Specialist SYMARK SOFTWARE 5716 Corsa Avenue, Suite 200 Westlake Village, CA 91362 Main: 818-865-6100 FAX: 818-889-1894 http://www.symark.com Technical Support: unix-support@symark.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 10:48: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay02.chello.nl (relay02.chello.nl [212.83.68.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA0437B9AE for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:48:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay02.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 2ee4e7c625482f2f2a1950a80f6c8d58) with ESMTP id <20000524174745.VPGD13476.relay02@chello.nl>; Wed, 24 May 2000 19:47:45 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01008; Wed, 24 May 2000 19:48:03 GMT (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 19:48:03 +0000 From: Wilko Bulte To: Glen Gross Cc: "'Lev Serebryakov'" , All Subject: Re: ntpdate could not sync time from any server. Message-ID: <20000524194803.D767@freebie.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: <01BFC568.F898D720.ggross@symark.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <01BFC568.F898D720.ggross@symark.com>; from ggross@symark.com on Wed, May 24, 2000 at 10:15:21AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 10:15:21AM -0700, Glen Gross wrote: > I have had the same experience, with a DSL line. I don't know if ntpdate > requires the time to be within a certain threshold before it will sync or not. > Does anyone know the answer to this? The time freak ;-) for FreeBSD is Poul-Henning (phk) -- Wilko Bulte FreeBSD, the power to serve http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 11: 7:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from firewall.symark.com (firewall.symark.westlake.iswest.net [207.178.203.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D84237B743 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 11:07:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ggross@symark.com) Received: (from mailer@localhost) by firewall.symark.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA23010; Wed, 24 May 2000 11:07:08 -0700 Received: from camel.symark.com(128.1.1.97) by firewall.symark.com via smap (V2.1/2.1+anti-relay+anti-spam) id xma023003; Wed, 24 May 00 11:07:05 -0700 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 24 May 2000 11:07:19 -0700 Message-ID: <01BFC570.3A5FA920.ggross@symark.com> From: Glen Gross Reply-To: "ggross@symark.com" To: "'wc.bulte@chello.nl'" Cc: "'Lev Serebryakov'" , All Subject: RE: ntpdate could not sync time from any server. Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 11:07:18 -0700 Organization: Symark Software X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does that mean that I have to buy one of his clocks? :) On Wednesday, May 24, 2000 12:48 PM, Wilko Bulte [SMTP:wkb@chello.nl] wrote: > On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 10:15:21AM -0700, Glen Gross wrote: > > I have had the same experience, with a DSL line. I don't know if ntpdate > > requires the time to be within a certain threshold before it will sync or > > not. > > Does anyone know the answer to this? > > The time freak ;-) for FreeBSD is Poul-Henning (phk) > > > -- > Wilko Bulte FreeBSD, the power to serve http://www.freebsd.org > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message Glen Gross Unix Technical Support Specialist SYMARK SOFTWARE 5716 Corsa Avenue, Suite 200 Westlake Village, CA 91362 Main: 818-865-6100 FAX: 818-889-1894 http://www.symark.com Technical Support: unix-support@symark.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 11:21:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D3637B87F for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 11:21:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.242.38]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 11:21:26 -0700 Message-ID: <392C1D76.45133616@3-cities.com> Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 11:20:38 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: Grigoriy Strokin , Jim Weeks , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited References: <200005241345.e4ODjqG21909@cwsys.cwsent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > In message <392AFEA3.46FDBDAD@3-cities.com>, Kent Stewart writes: > > > > > > Grigoriy Strokin wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 07:26:50PM -0400, Jim Weeks wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, 22 May 2000, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Define "it doesn't work" ? > > > > > > > > ad0: 4884MB [10585/15/63] at ata0-master using BIOSDMA > > > > ata1-slave: simplex device, DMA on primary only > > > > acd0: CDROM at ata1-slave using BIOSPIO > > > > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a > > > In my case, I see the message 'dma,dma -> pio,pio' > > > at this point. Maybe try /sbin/sysctl instead > > > of just sysctl? > > > > Have you all done a "man sysctl.conf" > > Actually, have you? Read it and see why it will probably not help here. I actually did. It seems like everyone was trying to add the equivalent of sysctl -w hw.atamodes=pio,pio,---,dma,pio,---,dma,---, and adding hw.atamodes=pio,pio,---,dma,pio,---,dma,---, to /etc/sysctl.conf was its purpose in life or is it add to late in the process. Kent > > > > > Kent > > > > > > > > > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > > > > ata0: resetting devices .. done > > > > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > > > > ata0: resetting devices .. done > > > > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > > > > ata0: resetting devices .. done > > > > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > > > > ata0-master: timeout waiting to give command=ef s=eb e=eb > > > > ad0: trying fallback to PIO mode > > > > ata0: resetting devices .. done > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It doesn't switch to pio mode or doesn't stop timeouts ? > > > > > > > > There is no change in the timeouts with or without adding the line to > > > > rc. At least it does eventually fall back to PIO. I understand from som > > e > > > > of the posts that not every case is so. > > > > > > > > > If there was a fix known, for it to be scheduled, it would probably > > > > > already be in the tree. > > > > > > > > I was actually hoping that someone with a fix in the works would > > > > respond ;-) > > > > > > > > I do appreciate your response though. My late Father always said that tw > > o > > > > heads were better than one, even if one is a punkin head. Of course that > > > > one would be mine ;_) > > > > > > > > Jim Weeks > > > > -------- A mind is a terrible thing to lose! How I miss mine.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > > === Grigoriy Strokin, Lomonosov University (MGU), Moscow === > > > === contact info: http://isabase.philol.msu.ru/~grg/ === > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > Kent Stewart > > Richland, WA > > > > mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com > > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html > > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > > > > SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME > > http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ > > > > Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR > > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 > Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 > Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca > Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA > Province of BC -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 11:32: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay01.chello.nl (smtp.chello.nl [212.83.68.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8986337B6A2 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 11:32:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay01.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 2ee4e7c625482f2f2a1950a80f6c8d58) with ESMTP id <20000524183230.VULO13246.relay01@chello.nl>; Wed, 24 May 2000 20:32:30 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01467; Wed, 24 May 2000 20:32:07 GMT (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 20:32:07 +0000 From: Wilko Bulte To: Glen Gross Cc: "'wc.bulte@chello.nl'" , "'Lev Serebryakov'" , All Subject: Re: ntpdate could not sync time from any server. Message-ID: <20000524203207.A1429@freebie.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: <01BFC570.3A5FA920.ggross@symark.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <01BFC570.3A5FA920.ggross@symark.com>; from ggross@symark.com on Wed, May 24, 2000 at 11:07:18AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 11:07:18AM -0700, Glen Gross wrote: > Does that mean that I have to buy one of his clocks? :) You don't have to buy it to use it: http://gps.freebsd.dk and http://212.242.40.188 -- Wilko Bulte FreeBSD, the power to serve http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 11:41:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0826C37BB69 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 11:41:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.242.38]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 11:41:56 -0700 Message-ID: <392C2244.59354D02@3-cities.com> Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 11:41:08 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Grigoriy Strokin Cc: Jim Weeks , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited References: <20000522182937.C9843@pir.net> <20000523162722.A97474@isabase.philol.msu.ru> <392AFEA3.46FDBDAD@3-cities.com> <20000524154617.A11855@isabase.philol.msu.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Grigoriy Strokin wrote: > > On Tue, May 23, 2000 at 02:56:51PM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > > > > Grigoriy Strokin wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 07:26:50PM -0400, Jim Weeks wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, 22 May 2000, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Define "it doesn't work" ? > > > > > > > > ad0: 4884MB [10585/15/63] at ata0-master using BIOSDMA > > > > ata1-slave: simplex device, DMA on primary only > > > > acd0: CDROM at ata1-slave using BIOSPIO > > > > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a > > > In my case, I see the message 'dma,dma -> pio,pio' > > > at this point. Maybe try /sbin/sysctl instead > > > of just sysctl? > > > > Have you all done a "man sysctl.conf" > > We all have done many things, including that... > And I personally know that the earlier > dma,dma -> pio,pio > is done, the better is the chance that the > filesystem will not be corrupted and I will > not have to look for all my files > in /usr/lost+found I was really concerned when I upgraded to 4.0 because all three of my systems at home are on UDMA66 ide's. The motherboard's don't support UDMA66 but I know the next one will. The concern at that point was whether I needed the / part of my system on a slower drive and all of the mount links on the faster drives. Things like you are experiencing make me nervous about not using scsi. Kent > > > Kent > > > > > > > > > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > > > > ata0: resetting devices .. done > > > > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > > > > ata0: resetting devices .. done > > > > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > > > > ata0: resetting devices .. done > > > > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > > > > ata0-master: timeout waiting to give command=ef s=eb e=eb > > > > ad0: trying fallback to PIO mode > > > > ata0: resetting devices .. done > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It doesn't switch to pio mode or doesn't stop timeouts ? > > > > > > > > There is no change in the timeouts with or without adding the line to > > > > rc. At least it does eventually fall back to PIO. I understand from some > > > > of the posts that not every case is so. > > > > > > > > > If there was a fix known, for it to be scheduled, it would probably > > > > > already be in the tree. > > > > > > > > I was actually hoping that someone with a fix in the works would > > > > respond ;-) > > > > > > > > I do appreciate your response though. My late Father always said that two > > > > heads were better than one, even if one is a punkin head. Of course that > > > > one would be mine ;_) > > > > > > > > Jim Weeks > > > > -------- A mind is a terrible thing to lose! How I miss mine.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > > === Grigoriy Strokin, Lomonosov University (MGU), Moscow === > > > === contact info: http://isabase.philol.msu.ru/~grg/ === > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > Kent Stewart > > Richland, WA > > > > mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com > > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html > > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > > > > SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME > > http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ > > > > Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR > > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > === Grigoriy Strokin, Lomonosov University (MGU), Moscow === > === contact info: http://isabase.philol.msu.ru/~grg/ === > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 12: 1:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B6337BD49 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 12:01:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.0) with SMTP id FAA05846; Thu, 25 May 2000 05:00:05 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 05:00:04 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith Reply-To: Ian Smith To: Glen Gross Cc: "'Lev Serebryakov'" , All Subject: RE: ntpdate could not sync time from any server. In-Reply-To: <01BFC568.F898D720.ggross@symark.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 24 May 2000, Glen Gross wrote: (re message: 'no server suitable for synchronization found') > I have had the same experience, with a DSL line. I don't know if > ntpdate requires the time to be within a certain threshold before > it will sync or not. Yes, it does; -t sets the time ntpdate will wait for a valid response. Still get one of these logged once every few days when upstream PPP link is extra heavily used, but used to get it much more often before using: ntpdate -t 2.4 -s ntp.ml.csiro.au ntp.cs.mu.oz.au judge.lis.net.au That's 2.4 seconds. man ntpdate isn't exactly clear re the unit format, but it does say that the default of 1 second is suitable for a LAN. Cheers, Ian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 12:38:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A8E37BD75 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 12:38:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25981 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 May 2000 12:38:18 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200005241938.MAA25981@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Understudy To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 12:38:18 -0700 (MST) Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone here have experience with PolyServe Understudy? It claims to be a software-only HA cluster implementation with load balancing for FreeBSD (and Linux/Solaris/WinNT). -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 12:50:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7A937B591 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 12:50:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA40640; Wed, 24 May 2000 15:51:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 15:51:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Ben Carlson Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum Question In-Reply-To: <4.3.0.20000524085507.00aca1e0@pilot.msu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 24 May 2000, Ben Carlson wrote: > >I just got the Vinum working on FreeBSD 4.0 stable, everything worked great. >I have two 30 gig drives that concatenated together just great. I did have one >quick question, I have a 20 gig drive that I want to add to the two 30 gig >drives, >but it has stuff on it, will putting it together with the other two drives >destroy the >data that is on the drive? Erm, why not copy the data off of the 20GB drive onto the 60GB vinum disk, then add that 20GB drive to the plex? Brandon D. Valentine -- "You should believe in death, taxes, Larry Ellison's loathing of Bill Gates and Intel's inability to ship a working chipset." - Dr Spinola, The Register, 05/13/2000 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 12:55:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AF3837BCD8 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 12:55:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id MAA26804; Wed, 24 May 2000 12:53:47 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda26802; Wed May 24 12:53:30 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA12054; Wed, 24 May 2000 12:53:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdX12046; Wed May 24 12:53:02 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.10.1/8.9.1) id e4OJr1r23466; Wed, 24 May 2000 12:53:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200005241953.e4OJr1r23466@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdJ23456; Wed May 24 12:52:52 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-Sender: cy To: Kent Stewart Cc: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , Grigoriy Strokin , Jim Weeks , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 May 2000 11:20:38 PDT." <392C1D76.45133616@3-cities.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 12:52:51 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <392C1D76.45133616@3-cities.com>, Kent Stewart writes: > > > Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > > > In message <392AFEA3.46FDBDAD@3-cities.com>, Kent Stewart writes: > > > > > > > > > Grigoriy Strokin wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 07:26:50PM -0400, Jim Weeks wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 22 May 2000, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Define "it doesn't work" ? > > > > > > > > > > ad0: 4884MB [10585/15/63] at ata0-master using BIOSD > MA > > > > > ata1-slave: simplex device, DMA on primary only > > > > > acd0: CDROM at ata1-slave using BIOSPIO > > > > > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a > > > > In my case, I see the message 'dma,dma -> pio,pio' > > > > at this point. Maybe try /sbin/sysctl instead > > > > of just sysctl? > > > > > > Have you all done a "man sysctl.conf" > > > > Actually, have you? Read it and see why it will probably not help here. > > I actually did. It seems like everyone was trying to add the > equivalent of > > sysctl -w hw.atamodes=pio,pio,---,dma,pio,---,dma,---, > > and adding > > hw.atamodes=pio,pio,---,dma,pio,---,dma,---, > to /etc/sysctl.conf > > was its purpose in life or is it add to late in the process. The sysctl code in rc IMO needs to be executed earlier. If one is having problems reading from an ATA boot disk, e.g. cannot load init or rc, these modes need to be set earlier. Why not a boot flag that sets atamodes to be as conservative as possible, that could be set in loader.conf. I see in the loader(8) man page that some sysctl variables can be set in loader.conf. Can atamodes be set in loader.conf? If not, maybe it should. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 14: 8:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (mass.cdrom.com [204.216.28.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6457B37BD75 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 14:08:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00814; Wed, 24 May 2000 14:10:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200005242110.OAA00814@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Matthew B. Henniges" Cc: "FreeBSD Stable" Subject: Re: PCI raid controller recommendations In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 May 2000 11:02:53 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 14:10:14 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > What driver is the eXtremeRAID 1100 supported under? mlx? > can you boot off it? Yes and yes. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 14:51: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from has.twoteeth.net (has.twoteeth.net [204.19.191.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD0C037B6F8 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 14:51:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@twoteeth.net) Received: (qmail 531 invoked by alias); 24 May 2000 21:48:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO twoteeth.net) (204.19.191.253) by has.twoteeth.net with SMTP; 24 May 2000 21:48:45 -0000 Message-ID: <392C4E3D.13B6762F@twoteeth.net> Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 17:48:45 -0400 From: Alex Root Organization: TwoTeeth X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 15:35:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.rdc3.on.home.com (mail2.rdc3.on.home.com [24.2.9.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 659A137BD90 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 15:35:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwass99@home.com) Received: from tristan.net ([24.114.108.234]) by mail2.rdc3.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with ESMTP id <20000524223514.VNDV1114.mail2.rdc3.on.home.com@tristan.net>; Wed, 24 May 2000 15:35:14 -0700 Content-Length: 649 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <392ABAD9.9842D2A8@msu.edu> Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 18:28:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Colin To: "B. Carlson" Subject: RE: One internet connection for many puters? Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 23-May-00 B. Carlson wrote: > I'm trying to set up FreeBSD 4.0 so I can use more than one computer > for the internet, I have a cable modem. I followed these steps: I use the same so I know it works ;) > linux_enable="YES" > gateway_enable="YES" You might check your firewall rules. If it isn't set up strictly as default (allow nothing anywhere) you might still need to use passive ftp. -- Cheers, Colin -------------------------------------------- E-Mail: Colin Date: 24-May-00 Time: 18:28:39 This message was sent by a little daemon with a big attitude .l -------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 16: 1:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.128.1.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C3737B86B for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:01:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davep@who.net) Received: from h0000f806dfda.ne.mediaone.net (h0000f806dfda.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.250.67]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA06967 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 19:01:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from h0000f806dfda.ne.mediaone.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h0000f806dfda.ne.mediaone.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA01371 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 19:01:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from davep@who.net) Message-Id: <200005242301.TAA01371@h0000f806dfda.ne.mediaone.net> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: netinet bug in RELENG_4 Reply-To: "David A. Panariti" X-Attribution: davep Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 19:01:32 -0400 From: "David A. Panariti" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I believe I have found a bug in netinet. After a cvsup and make world/kernel + mergemaster, I started getting the followiing panics: delayed m_pullup, m->len: 40 off: 23040 p: 6 Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x8 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc01b10a8 stack pointer = 0x10:0xcd069ae4 frame pointer = 0x10:0xcd069b10 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 5740 (itnd) interrupt mask = trap number = 12 panic: page fault syncing disks... done Uptime: 10h22m23s I cannot remember exactly when I cvsup'd. It was either May 17 or May 20. (Any easy way to tell?) Unfortunately, I can only reproduce the panics using an old version of the AltaVista tunnel. The tunnel worked perfectly with up to 4-RELEASE. I only have the binary of the tunnel code and it was compiled for FreeBSD2.2. The fact that it ran perfectly up to 4R is a testament to backward compatibility! Anyway, after some investigation, it looks like the m_pullup() is failing inside in_delayed_cksum(). The mbuf is then NULL and we panic when we set the csum. It looks like m_pullup() is failing since offset is very big. Some prints I added yield this: (IP_VHL_HL(ip->ip_vhl) << 2): 0, csum_data: 23040 off too big, skipping csum (I added code to return w/o setting the csum if I see a bogus offset and I no longer panic, and the ftp which was failing now works) Further investigation shows csum_data being mangled here in ip_output(): ip = mtod(m, struct ip *); /* * Fill in IP header. */ if ((flags & (IP_FORWARDING|IP_RAWOUTPUT)) == 0) { ip->ip_vhl = IP_MAKE_VHL(IPVERSION, hlen >> 2); ip->ip_off &= IP_DF; >>>>>>>>>>> ip->ip_id = htons(ip_id++); ipstat.ips_localout++; } else { hlen = IP_VHL_HL(ip->ip_vhl) << 2; dp_ck_csum_data(m, "a-7.1"); /* davep */ } More prints show: off too big @ a-7.3, off: 0x14, csum_data: 0x5a00 ip: 0xc0a91920, m: 0xc0a91900, &csum_data: 0xc0a91924 Where: ip is ip header inside mbuf m is mbuf pointer &csum_data = &m->m_pkthdr.csum_data csum_data is inside the IP header! And, coincidentally(NOT) ip_id is 4 bytes inside the struct ip, thus overlaying csum_data. So it looks like the m_data is pointing at M_databuf which should imply (as the comment states) /* !M_PKTHDR, !M_EXT */ And yet the code is using fields from struct pkthdr MH_pkthdr; /* M_PKTHDR set */ This is where I leave it for those more familiar with the code to pursue. Hopefully someone who knows the code can use this info to find and fix the bug quickly. It's taken me ~6 hrs just to find out this much. thanks, davep -- David Panariti / I can't complain, davep@who.net but sometimes I still do. (see also http://www.four11.com) / -- Joe Walsh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 17:51:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.kpi.com.au (www.kpi.com.au [203.39.132.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19DC837B674 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 17:51:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shevlandj@kpi.com.au) Received: from kpi.com.au (ws06.kpi.com.au [203.39.132.219]) by www.kpi.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03313 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:51:58 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from shevlandj@kpi.com.au) Message-ID: <392C7B22.96CFD7AA@kpi.com.au> Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 11:00:18 +1000 From: Joe Shevland Organization: KPI Logistics Pty Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Transparent proxies and fetch Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I recently posted about a problem I believed lay with the 'fetch' command on 3.4-STABLE, in that I kept getting error messages similar to: >> Attempting to fetch from http://people.FreeBSD.org/~andreas/download/. fetch: empty reply from people.FreeBSD.org when building ports. Someone wrote in asking whether our ISP has implemented a transparent proxy. Unfortunately I culled my mail folder so I can't respond directly, but the poster was on the money (the ISP grabs any port 80 requests and stuffs them into the proxy instead). My question now is how do I work around this issue? I've tried setting the HTTP_PROXY variable but this just makes the 'make install' of the ports fail very quickly: >> Attempting to fetch from http://people.FreeBSD.org/~andreas/download/. fetch: sendmsg: proxy.hbt.southcom.com.au: Can't assign requested address I assume this is something trivial like a port I need to put on the end (8080 in this case)? Cheers, Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 19: 9:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E830237B9AF; Wed, 24 May 2000 19:09:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carl@xena.aipo.gov.au) Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA80255; Thu, 25 May 2000 12:09:16 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from carl@xena.aipo.gov.au) Received: from newton.aipo.gov.au(10.0.100.18) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma080245; Thu, 25 May 00 12:08:57 +1000 Received: from localhost (carl@localhost) by newton.aipo.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05495; Thu, 25 May 2000 12:11:16 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from carl@xena.aipo.gov.au) X-Authentication-Warning: newton.aipo.gov.au: carl owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 12:11:16 +1000 (EST) From: Carl Makin X-Sender: carl@newton.aipo.gov.au To: "Matthew B. Henniges" Cc: FreeBSD Stable , Mike Smith Subject: RE: PCI raid controller recommendations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 24 May 2000, Matthew B. Henniges wrote: > What driver is the eXtremeRAID 1100 supported under? mlx? > can you boot off it? > > From: Mike Smith [mailto:msmith@freebsd.org] > > Shortly, I hope to add AMI controllers to this list, as AMI are finally > > coming up with the goods I need. At the moment, though, they are hard to > > manage (no userspace tools). I've got a 3.4-STABLE box (Dell PowerEdge 6300) booting fine off an PERC2/SC (AMI MegaRAID OEM) card. It was easier than making NT boot off the same card. :) Carl. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 19:48:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35C337B83B for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 19:48:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA02032; Wed, 24 May 2000 21:47:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-106.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.106) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma002030; Wed May 24 21:47:45 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000524214116.00c7c100@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 21:46:27 -0500 To: "Brandon D. Valentine" , Ben Carlson From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: Vinum Question Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <4.3.0.20000524085507.00aca1e0@pilot.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 03:51 PM 5/24/00 -0400, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: >On Wed, 24 May 2000, Ben Carlson wrote: > > > > >I just got the Vinum working on FreeBSD 4.0 stable, everything worked great. > >I have two 30 gig drives that concatenated together just great. I did > have one > >quick question, I have a 20 gig drive that I want to add to the two 30 gig > >drives, > >but it has stuff on it, will putting it together with the other two drives > >destroy the > >data that is on the drive? > >Erm, why not copy the data off of the 20GB drive onto the 60GB vinum >disk, then add that 20GB drive to the plex? Because you cannot expand the file system on the 60GB volume. Until this is possible the ability to expand a volume isn't very useful. You can add the 20GB drive and make an 80GB volume, but without a 'newfs' you will not be able to use the extra 20GB. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 20: 8: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from comnet.ca (comnet.ca [207.107.47.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B8537B597 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 20:07:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sarr0006@algonquincollege.com) Received: from algonquincollege.com (d-168.comnet.ca [207.107.44.168]) by comnet.ca (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e4P37eI16867 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 23:07:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <392C98E1.6985F9A2@algonquincollege.com> Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 23:07:13 -0400 From: david X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4-stable won't boot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I just did a cvsup to RELENG_4 about noon EST today (Wed), built world, installed a new kernel, and rebooted. now, when I boot, I get the following: boot -v: ... IPsec: Initiated Security Association Processing no devsw (majdev=0 bootdev=0xa0400000) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s3a no such device 'ad' setrootbyname failed ffs_mountroot: can't find rootvp Root mount failed: 6 Manual root filesystem specification ... mountroot> This system has been running 4-STABLE for over a month now, with no problems, the kernel config file wasn't changed at all from before the cvsup. I can boot -s with the old kernel, but of course I can't load any modules. /dev/ad0s3a has been the same ever since I upgraded from 3-STABLE, fstab hasn't change a bit. Any suggestions? The machine is kinda unusable right now. If there's anything else I should add, let me know. Thanks in advance, David Sarrazin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 20:34:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (mass.cdrom.com [204.216.28.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DFC037BCD3 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 20:34:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA04703; Wed, 24 May 2000 20:35:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200005250335.UAA04703@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: david Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4-stable won't boot In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 May 2000 23:07:13 EDT." <392C98E1.6985F9A2@algonquincollege.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 20:35:55 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hello, > > I just did a cvsup to RELENG_4 about noon EST today (Wed), built world, > installed a new kernel, and rebooted. now, when I boot, I get the > following: ... > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s3a > no such device 'ad' Sounds like you left the 'ad' device out of your new kernel config. Bad idea. 8) -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 21: 7:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yoda.dccnet.com (mail.deltacable.com [207.230.239.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B315D37BDCA for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 21:07:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kg@dccnet.com) Received: from dccnet.com (unverified [209.5.131.193]) by yoda.dccnet.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.4.6) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 21:05:32 -0700 Message-ID: <392CA717.93843A98@dccnet.com> Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 21:07:51 -0700 From: "Kevin G. Eliuk" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: Kent Stewart , Grigoriy Strokin , Jim Weeks , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited References: <200005241953.e4OJr1r23466@cwsys.cwsent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Another solution (temporarily) On another list someone posted that maxtor has available a flash utility for their ata66 drives that allow you to flash from ata66 to ata33, and back to ata66. He has forwarded me the self extracting executable, if wanted I'll do the same. He had to get it sent to him by the support desk if I read it correctly, if you want it directly from maxtor( which I would understand ). > > > > > > ad0: 4884MB [10585/15/63] at ata0-master using BIOSD > > MA > > > > > > ata1-slave: simplex device, DMA on primary only > > > > > > acd0: CDROM at ata1-slave using BIOSPIO > > > > > > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a > > > > > In my case, I see the message 'dma,dma -> pio,pio' > > > > > at this point. Maybe try /sbin/sysctl instead > > > > > of just sysctl? > > > > > > > > Have you all done a "man sysctl.conf" > > > > > > Actually, have you? Read it and see why it will probably not help here. > > > > I actually did. It seems like everyone was trying to add the > > equivalent of > > > > sysctl -w hw.atamodes=pio,pio,---,dma,pio,---,dma,---, > > > > and adding > > > > hw.atamodes=pio,pio,---,dma,pio,---,dma,---, > > > to /etc/sysctl.conf > > -- Regards, )))))) )))))) )))))) Kevin G. Eliuk )) )) )) )) )) )) http://www.FreeBSD.org )) "Change your operating system, )) )) )) )) )) and You can change your World." )))))) )))))) )))))) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 24 22:42:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from comnet.ca (comnet.ca [207.107.47.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A3BA37BE0B; Wed, 24 May 2000 22:42:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sarr0006@algonquincollege.com) Received: from algonquincollege.com (d-8.comnet.ca [207.107.44.8]) by comnet.ca (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e4P5g3I07966; Thu, 25 May 2000 01:42:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <392CBD10.9D8413D@algonquincollege.com> Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 01:41:36 -0400 From: david X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Smith Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4-stable won't boot References: <200005250335.UAA04703@mass.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Smith wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I just did a cvsup to RELENG_4 about noon EST today (Wed), built world, > > installed a new kernel, and rebooted. now, when I boot, I get the > > following: > ... > > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s3a > > no such device 'ad' > > Sounds like you left the 'ad' device out of your new kernel config. Bad > idea. 8) > That turns out to be exactly what the problem was. For some reason, I had commented out the ATA entries in the kernel config file. I had noticed this, but repeated config-make-make installs hadn't had any effect. Your response told me that I was looking in the right area. It turns out that I had to do "config -r" in order to get the ATA code into the kernel. In any event, it works now, thanks a million! David Sarrazin > > -- > \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith > \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 0: 4:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hq1.tyfon.net (hq1.tyfon.net [213.212.29.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C62437B583 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 00:04:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dl@tyfon.net) Received: from enigmatic (dan [192.168.1.20]) by hq1.tyfon.net (Postfix) with SMTP id F2A821C5C8 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:04:13 +0200 (CEST) From: "Dan Larsson" To: Subject: buildworld fails on if_ef Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 09:05:56 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG CVSuped Wed May 24 17:15:54 CEST. I've cvsuped several times in hope of that the problem would disappear. FYI This is a buildworld on a FreeBSD-4.0 RELEASE machine This is the failing point of the buildworld: ===> sys/modules/if_ef cc -O2 -pipe -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../include -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -c /usr/src/sys/modules/if_ef/../../net/if_ef.c /usr/src/sys/modules/if_ef/../../net/if_ef.c: In function `ef_clone': /usr/src/sys/modules/if_ef/../../net/if_ef.c:512: `cbuf' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/sys/modules/if_ef/../../net/if_ef.c:512: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/sys/modules/if_ef/../../net/if_ef.c:512: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/sys/modules/if_ef/../../net/if_ef.c:503: warning: unused variable `bbuf' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/if_ef. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 0:15: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C08037B5E7; Thu, 25 May 2000 00:14:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA82778; Thu, 25 May 2000 00:14:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 00:14:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Adam Mackler Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make buildworld failing on libssh In-Reply-To: <200005241249.IAA18576@barter.dewline.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 24 May 2000, Adam Mackler wrote: > I have cvsuped the RELENG_4 stable-supfile with the > international secure-supfile, and when I make buildworld it fails, > saying: Wrong supfile - you grabbed -current. Kris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 1:27:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mike.dhis.org (hiper1-d235.stk.cwnet.com [205.162.108.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F3D837B56C for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 01:27:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mmuir@es.co.nz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mike.dhis.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB271F11; Mon, 22 May 2000 14:16:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 14:16:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mike C. Muir" X-Sender: mmuir@haus.lan To: Mark Powell Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MegaRAID compatible memory (was Re: HPDA/DAC960PL errors ) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 18 May 2000, Mark Powell wrote: > Correct me if I'm wrong, so because 72pins SIMMs have a 32bit data path > there is no such thing as an ECC SIMM? All the 36 bit wide SIMMS are > really just parity, but when two are used together ECC is possible? Thus > the MegaRAID 1400 can't be implementing ECC, because they are only using a > single SIMM. The only way to do it with a single SIMM would be to have one > that is 39 or 40bits wide? AFAIK! I'm not sure but that sounds on. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 1:28:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fling.sanbi.ac.za (fling.sanbi.ac.za [196.38.142.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F030937BA17 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 01:28:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pvh@egenetics.com) Received: from pvh (helo=localhost) by fling.sanbi.ac.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #2) id 12uszn-000BXn-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:27:59 +0200 Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 10:27:59 +0200 (SAST) From: Peter van Heusden X-Sender: pvh@fling.sanbi.ac.za To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Problem seeing old 4.0-C filesystems from 4.0-R boot floppy Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I asked this question on FreeBSD-questions, but didn't receive an answer. Since this at least overlaps with FreeBSD-stable's domain, I thought I'd forward the question here, in the hope that someone can help. I (in a fit of madness) managed to hose my FreeBSD machine by installing the /usr/src from 4.0-R, doing a make buildworld, make installworld. Since I was running with an old 4.0-C kernel (from about April 1999), the new binaries refused to run, core-dumping because of an unknown syscall. Since I was unable to boot the 4.0-C kernels I had, I booted from a 4.0-R boot floppy, and tried to get sanity back using the fixit floppy. Unfortunately, when I try and see my filesystems, I can't see /usr or /var. This machine only has a single hard disk in it, which is on the secondary IDE controller (so as not to conflict with my SCSI controller - the computer freezes up if my IDE disk is on the primary IDE, and the SCSI disk is installed). The disk is the master on that controller. Under 4.0-C, the filesystems were on /dev/wd2s1a (root), /dev/wd2s1f (/usr) and /dev/wd2s1e (/var). Since these devices didn't exist when I went into fixit mode, I managed to create them using the MAKEDEV from the fixit floppy. (Once I've got everything mounted, I can make a new 4.0-R kernel from the sources which are on my IDE disk) However, when I try and mount things, I can only mount the root filesystem. Both the /dev/ad2s1f and /dev/ad2s1e give me an 'invalid superblock' message. So: Does anyone have an explanation for what might be going on here? Can someone send me the correct major/minor numbers for ad2s1* device nodes. I am not entirely convinced that MAKEDEV created them correctly (since I had to hack it to get it to work), and I can try and and mknod the correct device nodes directly. Thanks for any assistance, Peter -- Peter van Heusden pvh@egenetics.com Electric Genetics To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 2:44:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from barter.dewline.com (barter.dewline.com [209.208.153.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A177137B668; Thu, 25 May 2000 02:44:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mackler@dewline.com) Received: from localhost (mackler@localhost) by barter.dewline.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id FAA24012; Thu, 25 May 2000 05:44:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 05:44:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam Mackler To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Adam Mackler , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: make buildworld failing on libssh In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 25 May 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, 24 May 2000, Adam Mackler wrote: > > > I have cvsuped the RELENG_4 stable-supfile with the > > international secure-supfile, and when I make buildworld it fails, > > saying: > > Wrong supfile - you grabbed -current. once again proving that the most mind-numbing problems are the ones with one-line solutions....i knew it had to be somethng stupid and minor. i thank you (and so does my scalp, now that i can stop pulling my hair out)! now, the only mystery left is how did it work for so long? that's the real problem with FreeBSD--it's so robust that just because everything is working doesn't mean I'm doing it right. Thank you very much again! adam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 2:56:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04CFD37B5AA; Thu, 25 May 2000 02:56:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA31674; Thu, 25 May 2000 02:56:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 02:56:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Adam Mackler Cc: Adam Mackler , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: make buildworld failing on libssh In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 25 May 2000, Adam Mackler wrote: > now, the only mystery left is how did it work for so long? Until recently the 5.0 crypto code hadnt diverged from 4.0 very much (and would have worked fine) Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 3:24:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (mail.dohboys.com [208.26.253.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D1D37B506; Thu, 25 May 2000 03:24:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.71]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 03:24:54 -0700 Message-ID: <392CFF7D.3D894A51@3-cities.com> Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 03:25:01 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig (BOSS Internet Group) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Adam Mackler , Adam Mackler , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: make buildworld failing on libssh References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Thu, 25 May 2000, Adam Mackler wrote: > > > now, the only mystery left is how did it work for so long? > > Until recently the 5.0 crypto code hadnt diverged from 4.0 very much (and > would have worked fine) It is still broken right now any way. It doesn't know how to make twe.4. Kent > > Kris > > ---- > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 5: 9: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dd-mail-smtp.dk.damgaard.com (client.dk.damgaard.com [193.88.253.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CCE0237BF04 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 05:09:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bbl@dk.damgaard.com) Received: from 193.88.253.3 by dd-mail-smtp.dk.damgaard.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 25 May 2000 14:08:23 +0200 (Romance Daylight Time) Received: by mail.damgaard.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 14:08:23 +0200 Message-ID: <5ED89301AE60D311AAD500508B0EF55F50DFE8@dd-mail.intern.dd.dk> From: Bjarne Blichfeldt To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: makeworld fails on alpha Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 14:03:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just did a fresh cvsup on tag=RELENG_4. make buildworld fails with : don't know how to make twe.4 The reference to twe.4 is in share/man/man4/Makefile. When the reference is removed, make in share/man/man4/Makefile succeeds. mvh, Bjarne Blichfeldt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 5:30:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citadel.cequrux.com (citadel.cdsec.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA7137BFD7 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 05:29:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cequrux.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cequrux.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id OAA28401 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 14:29:39 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel.cequrux.com via recvmail id 28325; Thu May 25 14:28:41 2000 Message-ID: <392D1CC3.B5351A71@cequrux.com> Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 14:29:57 +0200 From: Graham Wheeler Organization: Cequrux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Problems compiling FreeBSD stable Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------67FD9E0A616739E83502F798" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------67FD9E0A616739E83502F798 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all I am trying to do a `make world' after cvsup'ing my whole /usr/src tree to the latest RELENG_4 stable release (international version). I'm getting a whole load of errors when it gets to compiling gcc though. I have attached the tail end of my make output. Also, I managed to build a kernel using the same config file as I used for a 4.0 kernel. The new kernel causes a page fault panic upon booting. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can proceed? Other than the obvious one of going back to the source on my 4.0 CDs... TIA gram --------------67FD9E0A616739E83502F798 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="make.out" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="make.out" cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DDEFAULT_TARGET_VERSION=\"2.95.2\" -DDEFAULT_TARGET_MACHINE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd\" -DPREFIX=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/config -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp -I. -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp/xref.c cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DDEFAULT_TARGET_VERSION=\"2.95.2\" -DDEFAULT_TARGET_MACHINE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd\" -DPREFIX=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/config -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp -I. -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -static -o cc1plus parse.o call.o class.o cvt.o decl.o decl2.o errfn.o error.o except.o expr.o friend.o init.o lex.o method.o pt.o ptree.o repo.o rtti.o search.o semantics.o sig.o spew.o tree.o typeck.o typeck2.o xref.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `finish_struct': c-decl.o(.text+0x6ae8): multiple definition of `finish_struct' class.o(.text+0x4f94): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `finish_struct' changed from 286 to 1572 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o)(.data+0x58): multiple definition of `dollars_in_ident' decl2.o(.data+0x3c): first defined here /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `print_lang_identifier': c-decl.o(.text+0xe7c): multiple definition of `print_lang_identifier' ptree.o(.text+0x3e0): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `print_lang_identifier' changed from 202 to 125 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `shadow_label': c-decl.o(.text+0x2cc8): multiple definition of `shadow_label' decl.o(.text+0x49ac): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `shadow_label' changed from 102 to 126 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `xref_tag': c-decl.o(.text+0x68c8): multiple definition of `xref_tag' decl.o(.text+0xecdc): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `xref_tag' changed from 957 to 204 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `init_decl_processing': c-decl.o(.text+0x2f5c): multiple definition of `init_decl_processing' decl.o(.text+0x6000): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `init_decl_processing' changed from 7570 to 5366 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `define_label': c-decl.o(.text+0x2d48): multiple definition of `define_label' decl.o(.text+0x4a14): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `define_label' changed from 687 to 135 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `poplevel': c-decl.o(.text+0x10e8): multiple definition of `poplevel' decl.o(.text+0x6e0): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `poplevel' changed from 1427 to 706 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `shadow_tag': c-decl.o(.text+0x44f0): multiple definition of `shadow_tag' decl.o(.text+0x8090): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `shadow_tag' changed from 109 to 21 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `finish_decl': c-decl.o(.text+0x4888): multiple definition of `finish_decl' decl.o(.text+0x97bc): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `finish_decl' changed from 29 to 1082 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `maybe_build_cleanup': c-decl.o(.text+0x4cc4): multiple definition of `maybe_build_cleanup' decl.o(.text+0x118dc): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `maybe_build_cleanup' changed from 25 to 7 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `start_enum': c-decl.o(.text+0x713c): multiple definition of `start_enum' decl.o(.text+0xf5d0): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `start_enum' changed from 180 to 171 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `store_parm_decls': c-decl.o(.text+0x7aa0): multiple definition of `store_parm_decls' decl.o(.text+0x104d0): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `store_parm_decls' changed from 704 to 1650 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `insert_block': c-decl.o(.text+0x13e8): multiple definition of `insert_block' decl.o(.text+0xcb0): first defined here /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `getdecls': c-decl.o(.text+0x2dd0): multiple definition of `getdecls' decl.o(.text+0x4e04): first defined here /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `lookup_name_current_level': c-decl.o(.text+0x2f18): multiple definition of `lookup_name_current_level' decl.o(.text+0x5cb8): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `lookup_name_current_level' changed from 143 to 65 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `copy_lang_decl': c-decl.o(.text+0x86b4): multiple definition of `copy_lang_decl' lex.o(.text+0x6b18): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `copy_lang_decl' changed from 169 to 5 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `start_decl': c-decl.o(.text+0x4668): multiple definition of `start_decl' decl.o(.text+0x8128): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `start_decl' changed from 1206 to 541 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `gettags': c-decl.o(.text+0x2ddc): multiple definition of `gettags' decl.o(.text+0x4e10): first defined here /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `keep_next_level': c-decl.o(.text+0xf88): multiple definition of `keep_next_level' decl.o(.text+0x220): first defined here /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o)(.data+0x5c): multiple definition of `debug_temp_inits' decl.o(.data+0x24): first defined here /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `build_enumerator': c-decl.o(.text+0x741c): multiple definition of `build_enumerator' decl.o(.text+0xf894): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `build_enumerator' changed from 486 to 385 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `delete_block': c-decl.o(.text+0x13ac): multiple definition of `delete_block' decl.o(.text+0xc74): first defined here /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `finish_enum': c-decl.o(.text+0x71e8): multiple definition of `finish_enum' decl.o(.text+0xf684): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `finish_enum' changed from 528 to 563 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o)(.data+0x34): multiple definition of `flag_signed_bitfields' decl2.o(.data+0x0): first defined here /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `lookup_name': c-decl.o(.text+0x2ef0): multiple definition of `lookup_name' decl.o(.text+0x5ca0): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `lookup_name' changed from 23 to 37 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `complete_array_type': c-decl.o(.text+0x4d70): multiple definition of `complete_array_type' decl.o(.text+0x9a64): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `complete_array_type' changed from 361 to 283 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `pushdecl': c-decl.o(.text+0x239c): multiple definition of `pushdecl' decl.o(.text+0x36c8): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `pushdecl' changed from 2371 to 1611 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `declare_parm_level': c-decl.o(.text+0xfd4): multiple definition of `declare_parm_level' decl.o(.text+0x260): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `declare_parm_level' changed from 18 to 14 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `print_lang_decl': c-decl.o(.text+0xe6c): multiple definition of `print_lang_decl' ptree.o(.text+0x0): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `print_lang_decl' changed from 236 to 5 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `print_lang_type': c-decl.o(.text+0xe74): multiple definition of `print_lang_type' ptree.o(.text+0xec): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `print_lang_type' changed from 753 to 5 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `groktypename': c-decl.o(.text+0x4628): multiple definition of `groktypename' decl.o(.text+0x8100): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `groktypename' changed from 37 to 32 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `grokfield': c-decl.o(.text+0x6a4c): multiple definition of `grokfield' decl2.o(.text+0x1934): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `grokfield' changed from 1204 to 83 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `pushlevel': c-decl.o(.text+0xff4): multiple definition of `pushlevel' decl.o(.text+0x2bc): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `pushlevel' changed from 129 to 165 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o)(.data+0x3c): multiple definition of `warn_long_long' decl2.o(.data+0x14): first defined here /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `start_function': c-decl.o(.text+0x75a0): multiple definition of `start_function' decl.o(.text+0xfa7c): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `start_function' changed from 2619 to 1264 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `pushdecl_top_level': c-decl.o(.text+0x29e8): multiple definition of `pushdecl_top_level' decl.o(.text+0x4104): first defined here /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `implicitly_declare': c-decl.o(.text+0x2a18): multiple definition of `implicitly_declare' decl.o(.text+0x4698): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `implicitly_declare' changed from 189 to 245 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `kept_level_p': c-decl.o(.text+0xf98): multiple definition of `kept_level_p' decl.o(.text+0x230): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `kept_level_p' changed from 47 to 59 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `lookup_label': c-decl.o(.text+0x2c1c): multiple definition of `lookup_label' decl.o(.text+0x4860): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `lookup_label' changed from 331 to 169 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `set_block': c-decl.o(.text+0x1414): multiple definition of `set_block' decl.o(.text+0xcdc): first defined here /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `pushtag': c-decl.o(.text+0x15a0): multiple definition of `pushtag' decl.o(.text+0x20a0): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `pushtag' changed from 727 to 132 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `global_bindings_p': c-decl.o(.text+0xf70): multiple definition of `global_bindings_p' decl.o(.text+0x1b4): first defined here /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o)(.data+0x54): multiple definition of `warn_multichar' decl2.o(.data+0x30): first defined here /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `finish_function': c-decl.o(.text+0x8360): multiple definition of `finish_function' decl.o(.text+0x10880): first defined here /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `finish_function' changed from 3003 to 565 in c-decl.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `implicitly_declare': c-decl.o(.text+0x2a81): undefined reference to `maybe_objc_check_decl' /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `finish_decl': c-decl.o(.text+0x4b1c): undefined reference to `maybe_objc_check_decl' c-decl.o(.text+0x4b51): undefined reference to `maybe_objc_check_decl' c-decl.o(.text+0x4bce): undefined reference to `maybe_objc_check_decl' /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `grokfield': c-decl.o(.text+0x6a92): undefined reference to `maybe_objc_check_decl' /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o)(.text+0x7077): more undefined references to `maybe_objc_check_decl' follow *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. --------------67FD9E0A616739E83502F798-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 5:48:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from atlrel1.hp.com (atlrel1.hp.com [156.153.255.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779DD37C090 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 05:47:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@sse0691.bri.hp.com) Received: from sse0691.bri.hp.com (sse0691.bri.hp.com [15.144.0.53]) by atlrel1.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95C073 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 08:47:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from steve@localhost) by sse0691.bri.hp.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA28235 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 25 May 2000 13:44:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 13:44:57 +0100 From: Steve Roome To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4-stable won't boot Message-ID: <20000525134456.D28056@moose.bri.hp.com> References: <392C98E1.6985F9A2@algonquincollege.com> <200005250335.UAA04703@mass.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200005250335.UAA04703@mass.cdrom.com>; from msmith@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, May 24, 2000 at 08:35:55PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 08:35:55PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I just did a cvsup to RELENG_4 about noon EST today (Wed), built world, > > installed a new kernel, and rebooted. now, when I boot, I get the > > following: > ... > > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s3a > > no such device 'ad' > > Sounds like you left the 'ad' device out of your new kernel config. Bad > idea. 8) For what it's worth, I had similar problems recently as well, although I was getting ata_master: timeout waiting for command (from memory), however I did have the ad device, and the problem seemed to be related to some sort of conflict that appeared only when I had one of the following also in the kernel : options AUTO_EOI_1 options AUTO_EOI_2 device pcm device pcf I've not narrowed it down much yet, but suffice it to say that I got almost the same problem described above, but which automagically fixed itself once I took out the above 4 lines. I doubt it's anything to do with this, but I thought I'd mention it in case someone following this thread knows why this might happen. I will look into it further once I've got the time to recompile another 20+ kernels and test them. Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 7:14:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from atlrel2.hp.com (atlrel2.hp.com [156.153.255.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 116EF37C232 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 07:14:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@sse0691.bri.hp.com) Received: from sse0691.bri.hp.com (sse0691.bri.hp.com [15.144.0.53]) by atlrel2.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A328A5; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:14:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from steve@localhost) by sse0691.bri.hp.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA28458; Thu, 25 May 2000 15:11:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 15:11:07 +0100 From: Steve Roome To: Joe Shevland Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Transparent proxies and fetch Message-ID: <20000525151107.F28056@moose.bri.hp.com> References: <392C7B22.96CFD7AA@kpi.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <392C7B22.96CFD7AA@kpi.com.au>; from shevlandj@kpi.com.au on Thu, May 25, 2000 at 11:00:18AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 11:00:18AM +1000, Joe Shevland wrote: > when building ports. Someone wrote in asking whether our ISP has implemented a > transparent proxy. Unfortunately I culled my mail folder so I can't respond > directly, but the poster was on the money (the ISP grabs any port 80 requests > and stuffs them into the proxy instead). > > My question now is how do I work around this issue? I've tried setting the > HTTP_PROXY variable but this just makes the 'make install' of the ports fail > very quickly: In my limited experience calling the ISP and talking to them about it can work. I don't know if it will help, but you might be able to get them to remove the divert for you. The ISP I was with did that for me, on the other hand, you could always change ISP to someone who lets the customer decide when to use a proxy. Then again, someone might have a better solution, but IMHO I think it's quite rude of ISP's to divert your traffic without letting you know about it, imagine how you'd feel if they started diverting all your outgoing port23 connections and archiving everything that went down that line. Others may feel differently about it though! And it's becoming far too standard a practice now, so maybe we're supposed to move with the times and accept it? I dunno! Steve Roome To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 7:17:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A073C37C25A for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 07:17:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 6320 invoked by uid 0); 23 May 2000 13:17:22 -0000 Received: from p3e9e7a98.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (62.158.122.152) by mail05.rzmi.gmx.net with SMTP; 23 May 2000 13:17:22 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17571 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 23 May 2000 11:00:06 +0200 Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 11:00:06 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited Message-ID: <20000523110005.L2305@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3929BB7F.60ECEFE4@airmail.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from jim@siteplus.net on Mon, May 22, 2000 at 07:48:24PM -0400 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 19:48 -0400, Jim Weeks wrote: > > On Mon, 22 May 2000, Alan Edmonds wrote: > > > > What worked for me was to put > > hw.atamodes=pio,,pio, > > in /etc/sysctl.conf > > I tried this also. Did you by any chance use this along with > /sbin/sysctl -w hw.atamodes=pio,pio,pio,pio in /etc/rc? IIRC are there some combinations of boards (i.e. controllers) and disks out there unable to cope with each other. And in the worse cases they do so right from the start. I struggled against such a beast myself lately: A VIA MVP4 board (that is, with a 82c586A PCI IDE controller) and a Fujitsu drive. Although both of them are new and cables aren't cheap (and of course I swapped them to make sure and I have a few of these machines and they all behave similarly) DMA mode simply won't work. The problem is: I could even disable UDMA modes in BIOS -- and all I get was that they get initialized to PIO mode when the BIOS is done. But: As soon as the BSD kernel is loaded and sees the hardware and activates its own drivers, negotiation takes place again (am I right in this or do I miss a point?). The chip is known to handle UDMA, the disk says "I can do that" and the lowest common denominator - and thus the conclusion the driver comes to - is "let's use it this way". Boom! And problems arise even before the user (or admin) is able to degrade downwards to a known to work mode (see the logs with read timeouts right after mounting root someone else - Jim? - posted in this thread). What I have seen in the previos discussions - and what I missed this time - was a simple approach like this: boot up with conservative assumptions and have UDMA mode get activated later via sysctl. This way *any* machine will work fine from boot to shutdown, and the confident in their hardware or the ones wanting to fiddle for performance could switch to higher modes for their daily operation. There might be a minimal loss of performance for those with hardware (combinations) capable of UDMA -- but only from installation to the point when they throw the switch. And I wouldn't mind the few seconds lost in the boot sequence between kernel loading and rc execution (if it's seconds at all). To make it even less important: How often does one boot? Once a year? Twice a year? I feel this little approach to be what helps most of the problematic cases where hardware claims high capabilities and fails to operate with these when actually enabled. And the UDMA switch could be prepared in /etc/sysctl.conf just as well as the routing switch is. > I even saw a post saying that someone put it into > /root/.profile and /root/.login, although I am not sure how > that was implemented or why. Setting IDE modes down to lower values (or upping them) shouldn't be necessary this often, once should suffice absolutely. The real problem is (as sketched above) that you might have errors even before you can turn off UDMA mode. I found OpenBSD show the first errors and falling back to PIO when formatting upon installation and it couldn't even boot after installation's end. And no matter how often I'm able to get a shell -- as long as during installation the sysctl(8) command is missing I could be willing to do something as much as I could, I'm simply _unable_ to make it work. Remembering this situation and hearing about yours I feel "being trapped" is the right phrase to name this. virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 7:42: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pi.yip.org (yip.org [199.45.111.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1F837BA74 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 07:41:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Received: from localhost (melange@localhost) by pi.yip.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26801; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:40:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 10:40:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob K X-Sender: melange@localhost To: Steve Roome Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Joe Shevland Subject: Re: Transparent proxies and fetch In-Reply-To: <20000525151107.F28056@moose.bri.hp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 25 May 2000, Steve Roome wrote: > Then again, someone might have a better solution, but IMHO I think > it's quite rude of ISP's to divert your traffic without letting you > know about it, imagine how you'd feel if they started diverting all > your outgoing port23 connections and archiving everything that went > down that line. > > Others may feel differently about it though! And it's becoming far too > standard a practice now, so maybe we're supposed to move with the > times and accept it? I dunno! Well, I work for an ISP that does exactly this (automatic proxy/cache of http), and the reason we do it is because it saves thousands of dollars a month by cutting our inbound traffic roughly in half. A workaround if the ISP is unwilling to exclude your IP from the redirection (like, if you're on dialup with a dynamic IP, for example) would be to to use a SOCKS server that's not on your ISP's network. *** Another workaround would be to try to grab the files manually through ftp (or saved through a web browser) and stick 'em in /usr/ports/distfiles/ . *** However, I know for a fact that fetch (at least on 3.4R) has no problems with Cacheflow 3040 boxes deployed. I suspect that the problem looks like this: - fetch sends out the http:// request - the ISP's gateway redirects it to a caching box - the caching box makes the request to the server - for some reason, there's a delay - a timer expires in fetch, causing the "Document contains no data" error. I would expect that it would return a different error if the timer was expiring on the caching box (as the box would return an error as opposed to nothing) or on the server you were trying to fetch from (for the same reason). fetch appears to have a timeout switch, ie -T [seconds]. Perhaps you could try inserting very high timeout values into the Makefiles? -- Bob "Reality is the only word in the language that should always be used in quotes" - The Amityville Horror III To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 7:50: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rhenium.btinternet.com (rhenium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1085137C356 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 07:50:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from [195.99.49.186] (helo=parish.my.domain) by ruthenium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12ufTX-0002AV-00; Wed, 24 May 2000 19:01:48 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01505; Wed, 24 May 2000 19:01:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 19:00:35 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: wc.bulte@chello.nl Cc: Glen Gross , "'Lev Serebryakov'" , All Subject: Re: ntpdate could not sync time from any server. Message-ID: <20000524190035.D232@parish> References: <01BFC568.F898D720.ggross@symark.com> <20000524194803.D767@freebie.wbnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000524194803.D767@freebie.wbnet>; from wkb@chello.nl on Wed, May 24, 2000 at 07:48:03PM +0000 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 07:48:03PM +0000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 10:15:21AM -0700, Glen Gross wrote: > > I have had the same experience, with a DSL line. I don't know if > > ntpdate requires the time to be within a certain threshold before > > it will sync or not. Does anyone know the answer to this? > FWIW, I've had ntpdate sync my clock when it was >1 hour out, after NT advanced it another hour when we went from GMT to BST (Daylight Saving). > The time freak ;-) for FreeBSD is Poul-Henning (phk) > > > -- > Wilko Bulte FreeBSD, the power to serve http://www.freebsd.org > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- ...and on the eighth day God created UNIX ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 8: 4:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from barter.dewline.com (barter.dewline.com [209.208.153.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DBD37C4A4 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 08:04:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mackler@barter.dewline.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by barter.dewline.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA23472; Thu, 25 May 2000 11:04:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 11:04:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200005251504.LAA23472@barter.dewline.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: using more than one md pseudo-device w/ 4.0 From: Adam Mackler Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The md pseudo-device does work as described in the handbook in section 10.6.2. However it doesn't seem to work when I try to use a device other than /dev/md0, specifically /dev/md1. Some other pseudo-devices can be specified in the kernel configuration with a number to indicate the number of units. This doesn't seem to work with md. For example: pseudo-device md 3 # Memory "disks" I have run MAKEDEV md0 MAKEDEV md1 MAKEDEV md2 but I still get the message dd: /dev/md1: Device not configured when I do dd if=afile of=/dev/md1 How do I use more than one md device at a time? -- Adam Mackler To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 8:12:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citadel.cequrux.com (citadel.cdsec.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BFE137C4E3 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 08:12:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cequrux.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cequrux.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id RAA12362 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 17:11:57 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel.cequrux.com via recvmail id 12286; Thu May 25 17:11:10 2000 Message-ID: <392D42E0.F5AED967@cequrux.com> Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 17:12:32 +0200 From: Graham Wheeler Organization: Cequrux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems compiling FreeBSD stable References: <392D1CC3.B5351A71@cequrux.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Graham Wheeler wrote: > > Hi all > > I am trying to do a `make world' after cvsup'ing my whole /usr/src tree > to the latest RELENG_4 stable release (international version). I'm > getting a whole load of errors when it gets to compiling gcc though. I > have attached the tail end of my make output. > > Also, I managed to build a kernel using the same config file as I used > for a 4.0 kernel. The new kernel causes a page fault panic upon booting. > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can proceed? Other than the > obvious one of going back to the source on my 4.0 CDs... Interestingly enough, I went and reinstalled my 4.0 release source tree, and now I get the same errors when I try to do a make world with that tree. Before I used cvsup at all, I could quite happily do a make world in this tree. So something has got horribly messed up by the process of cvsup'ing to RELENG_4 stable. I'm not sure what I can do now other than a complete reinstall of 4.0 release. 8-( ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DDEFAULT_TARGET_VERSION=\"2.95.2\" -DDEFAULT_TARGET_MACHINE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd\" -DPREFIX=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/config -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp -I. -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp/xref.c > cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DDEFAULT_TARGET_VERSION=\"2.95.2\" -DDEFAULT_TARGET_MACHINE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd\" -DPREFIX=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/config -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp -I. -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -static -o cc1plus parse.o call.o class.o cvt.o decl.o decl2.o errfn.o error.o except.o expr.o friend.o init.o lex.o method.o pt.o ptree.o repo.o rtti.o search.o semantics.o sig.o spew.o tree.o typeck.o typeck2.o xref.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `finish_struct': > c-decl.o(.text+0x6ae8): multiple definition of `finish_struct' > class.o(.text+0x4f94): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `finish_struct' changed from 286 to 1572 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o)(.data+0x58): multiple definition of `dollars_in_ident' > decl2.o(.data+0x3c): first defined here > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `print_lang_identifier': > c-decl.o(.text+0xe7c): multiple definition of `print_lang_identifier' > ptree.o(.text+0x3e0): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `print_lang_identifier' changed from 202 to 125 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `shadow_label': > c-decl.o(.text+0x2cc8): multiple definition of `shadow_label' > decl.o(.text+0x49ac): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `shadow_label' changed from 102 to 126 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `xref_tag': > c-decl.o(.text+0x68c8): multiple definition of `xref_tag' > decl.o(.text+0xecdc): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `xref_tag' changed from 957 to 204 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `init_decl_processing': > c-decl.o(.text+0x2f5c): multiple definition of `init_decl_processing' > decl.o(.text+0x6000): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `init_decl_processing' changed from 7570 to 5366 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `define_label': > c-decl.o(.text+0x2d48): multiple definition of `define_label' > decl.o(.text+0x4a14): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `define_label' changed from 687 to 135 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `poplevel': > c-decl.o(.text+0x10e8): multiple definition of `poplevel' > decl.o(.text+0x6e0): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `poplevel' changed from 1427 to 706 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `shadow_tag': > c-decl.o(.text+0x44f0): multiple definition of `shadow_tag' > decl.o(.text+0x8090): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `shadow_tag' changed from 109 to 21 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `finish_decl': > c-decl.o(.text+0x4888): multiple definition of `finish_decl' > decl.o(.text+0x97bc): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `finish_decl' changed from 29 to 1082 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `maybe_build_cleanup': > c-decl.o(.text+0x4cc4): multiple definition of `maybe_build_cleanup' > decl.o(.text+0x118dc): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `maybe_build_cleanup' changed from 25 to 7 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `start_enum': > c-decl.o(.text+0x713c): multiple definition of `start_enum' > decl.o(.text+0xf5d0): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `start_enum' changed from 180 to 171 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `store_parm_decls': > c-decl.o(.text+0x7aa0): multiple definition of `store_parm_decls' > decl.o(.text+0x104d0): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `store_parm_decls' changed from 704 to 1650 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `insert_block': > c-decl.o(.text+0x13e8): multiple definition of `insert_block' > decl.o(.text+0xcb0): first defined here > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `getdecls': > c-decl.o(.text+0x2dd0): multiple definition of `getdecls' > decl.o(.text+0x4e04): first defined here > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `lookup_name_current_level': > c-decl.o(.text+0x2f18): multiple definition of `lookup_name_current_level' > decl.o(.text+0x5cb8): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `lookup_name_current_level' changed from 143 to 65 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `copy_lang_decl': > c-decl.o(.text+0x86b4): multiple definition of `copy_lang_decl' > lex.o(.text+0x6b18): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `copy_lang_decl' changed from 169 to 5 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `start_decl': > c-decl.o(.text+0x4668): multiple definition of `start_decl' > decl.o(.text+0x8128): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `start_decl' changed from 1206 to 541 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `gettags': > c-decl.o(.text+0x2ddc): multiple definition of `gettags' > decl.o(.text+0x4e10): first defined here > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `keep_next_level': > c-decl.o(.text+0xf88): multiple definition of `keep_next_level' > decl.o(.text+0x220): first defined here > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o)(.data+0x5c): multiple definition of `debug_temp_inits' > decl.o(.data+0x24): first defined here > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `build_enumerator': > c-decl.o(.text+0x741c): multiple definition of `build_enumerator' > decl.o(.text+0xf894): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `build_enumerator' changed from 486 to 385 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `delete_block': > c-decl.o(.text+0x13ac): multiple definition of `delete_block' > decl.o(.text+0xc74): first defined here > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `finish_enum': > c-decl.o(.text+0x71e8): multiple definition of `finish_enum' > decl.o(.text+0xf684): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `finish_enum' changed from 528 to 563 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o)(.data+0x34): multiple definition of `flag_signed_bitfields' > decl2.o(.data+0x0): first defined here > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `lookup_name': > c-decl.o(.text+0x2ef0): multiple definition of `lookup_name' > decl.o(.text+0x5ca0): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `lookup_name' changed from 23 to 37 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `complete_array_type': > c-decl.o(.text+0x4d70): multiple definition of `complete_array_type' > decl.o(.text+0x9a64): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `complete_array_type' changed from 361 to 283 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `pushdecl': > c-decl.o(.text+0x239c): multiple definition of `pushdecl' > decl.o(.text+0x36c8): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `pushdecl' changed from 2371 to 1611 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `declare_parm_level': > c-decl.o(.text+0xfd4): multiple definition of `declare_parm_level' > decl.o(.text+0x260): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `declare_parm_level' changed from 18 to 14 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `print_lang_decl': > c-decl.o(.text+0xe6c): multiple definition of `print_lang_decl' > ptree.o(.text+0x0): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `print_lang_decl' changed from 236 to 5 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `print_lang_type': > c-decl.o(.text+0xe74): multiple definition of `print_lang_type' > ptree.o(.text+0xec): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `print_lang_type' changed from 753 to 5 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `groktypename': > c-decl.o(.text+0x4628): multiple definition of `groktypename' > decl.o(.text+0x8100): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `groktypename' changed from 37 to 32 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `grokfield': > c-decl.o(.text+0x6a4c): multiple definition of `grokfield' > decl2.o(.text+0x1934): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `grokfield' changed from 1204 to 83 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `pushlevel': > c-decl.o(.text+0xff4): multiple definition of `pushlevel' > decl.o(.text+0x2bc): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `pushlevel' changed from 129 to 165 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o)(.data+0x3c): multiple definition of `warn_long_long' > decl2.o(.data+0x14): first defined here > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `start_function': > c-decl.o(.text+0x75a0): multiple definition of `start_function' > decl.o(.text+0xfa7c): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `start_function' changed from 2619 to 1264 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `pushdecl_top_level': > c-decl.o(.text+0x29e8): multiple definition of `pushdecl_top_level' > decl.o(.text+0x4104): first defined here > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `implicitly_declare': > c-decl.o(.text+0x2a18): multiple definition of `implicitly_declare' > decl.o(.text+0x4698): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `implicitly_declare' changed from 189 to 245 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `kept_level_p': > c-decl.o(.text+0xf98): multiple definition of `kept_level_p' > decl.o(.text+0x230): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `kept_level_p' changed from 47 to 59 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `lookup_label': > c-decl.o(.text+0x2c1c): multiple definition of `lookup_label' > decl.o(.text+0x4860): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `lookup_label' changed from 331 to 169 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `set_block': > c-decl.o(.text+0x1414): multiple definition of `set_block' > decl.o(.text+0xcdc): first defined here > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `pushtag': > c-decl.o(.text+0x15a0): multiple definition of `pushtag' > decl.o(.text+0x20a0): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `pushtag' changed from 727 to 132 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `global_bindings_p': > c-decl.o(.text+0xf70): multiple definition of `global_bindings_p' > decl.o(.text+0x1b4): first defined here > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o)(.data+0x54): multiple definition of `warn_multichar' > decl2.o(.data+0x30): first defined here > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `finish_function': > c-decl.o(.text+0x8360): multiple definition of `finish_function' > decl.o(.text+0x10880): first defined here > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `finish_function' changed from 3003 to 565 in c-decl.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `implicitly_declare': > c-decl.o(.text+0x2a81): undefined reference to `maybe_objc_check_decl' > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `finish_decl': > c-decl.o(.text+0x4b1c): undefined reference to `maybe_objc_check_decl' > c-decl.o(.text+0x4b51): undefined reference to `maybe_objc_check_decl' > c-decl.o(.text+0x4bce): undefined reference to `maybe_objc_check_decl' > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `grokfield': > c-decl.o(.text+0x6a92): undefined reference to `maybe_objc_check_decl' > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o)(.text+0x7077): more undefined references to `maybe_objc_check_decl' follow > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cequrux.com Director, Research and Development WWW: http://www.cequrux.com CEQURUX Technologies Phone: +27(21)423-6065 Firewalls/VPN Specialists Fax: +27(21)424-3656 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 8:26:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.bna.bellsouth.net (mail2.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F376F37C57F for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 08:26:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from host-216-78-4-188.jan.bellsouth.net (host-216-78-4-188.jan.bellsouth.net [216.78.4.188]) by mail2.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id LAA00632; Thu, 25 May 2000 11:26:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 11:26:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited In-Reply-To: <200005241953.e4OJr1r23466@cwsys.cwsent.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > In message <392C1D76.45133616@3-cities.com>, Kent Stewart writes: > > The sysctl code in rc IMO needs to be executed earlier. If one is > having problems reading from an ATA boot disk, e.g. cannot load init or > rc, these modes need to be set earlier. Why not a boot flag that sets > atamodes to be as conservative as possible, that could be set in > loader.conf. I see in the loader(8) man page that some sysctl > variables can be set in loader.conf. Can atamodes be set in > loader.conf? If not, maybe it should. Yes, this is it in a nutshell. All of the suggestions so far are good, but they come to late in the boot sequence to fix this problem. Jim Weeks --------- A mind is a terrible thing to lose! How I miss mine... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 9:49: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C0D37C86F for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:49:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@privatelabs.com) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (root@misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA07012 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 11:47:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from privatelabs.com (mi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04228 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 12:48:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@privatelabs.com) From: mi@privatelabs.com Message-Id: <200005251648.MAA04228@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 12:48:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: spontanious by-weekly crashes To: stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! An old dual-pentium 100 machine began crashing after I upgraded it to 4.0-STABLE from 3.4-STABLE. I'd just discount it as a hardware problem revealed by some of the new features of the OS, but the last two crashes happened at the time exactly two weeks apart: May 11 00:46:34 murlo /murlo: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. May 11 00:46:34 murlo /murlo: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #1: Mon May 1 08:20:37 EDT 2000 May 11 00:46:35 murlo /murlo: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard May 25 00:46:25 murlo /murlo: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. May 25 00:46:26 murlo /murlo: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #1: Mon May 1 08:20:37 EDT 2000 May 25 00:46:26 murlo /murlo: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard While I interrogate the user, what it is he was doing with it (mostly it is Applix office, Netscape, Postilion and fetchmail), may be someone can offer an idea describing this weird coincidence... There is nothing in the logs immediately before the reboots... Meanwhile, I'll see what happens in the next two weeks. TIA, -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 10:27:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.unet.ru (ns.unet.ru [195.9.254.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D4C37B506 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:27:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vick@unet.ru) Received: from unet.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.unet.ru (8.9.3/Unet) with ESMTP id VAA79724; Thu, 25 May 2000 21:27:43 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from vick@unet.ru) Message-ID: <392D628F.32905FAF@unet.ru> Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 21:27:43 +0400 From: Victor Ponomarev Organization: LPI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stable Subject: Improvement of VLAN Support badly needed... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All! Now VLAN support in stable is bad. Suppose you would like to really route two VLAN using a FreeBSD box as router. host---vlan port---trunk port---vlan port---host | | | router Usually in that config router port configured as a trunk also, this mean that it can received large packet. When host send a packet about 1514 byte switch trunk port add 4 byte and router trunk port substitute vlan tag to another and send it back to switch. The latter remove vlan header and send packet to appropriate vlan ports. Currently FreeBSD router simply drop large packet on it's interface. That's very bad... Second, standard ethernet MTU size is 1500, now we have vlan interface with MTU 1496, so large packet will be fragmented in BSD router on large and small packet. It's also bad because it's a) stupid resource consumed work for a router in that ethernet environment, b) small packet have large overhead and at last c) we should transmit two packet to medium instead one... The existing solution on these problem for Intel card may be found at http://www.euitt.upm.es/~pjlobo/ But there's another problem with small ip packet. When BSD router strip ethernet header for payload < 46 it strip padding bytes also. But when it reinserted data with another vlan header it don't add padding bytes and we have runts packets on interface... Sorry but I'm not a kernel programming expert so I can't change this things myself :( Bye, Vick. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 10:29:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (adsl-63-206-88-224.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.206.88.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90D537B912 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:29:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02309; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:30:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200005251730.KAA02309@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Steve Roome Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4-stable won't boot In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 25 May 2000 13:44:57 BST." <20000525134456.D28056@moose.bri.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 10:30:14 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 08:35:55PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I just did a cvsup to RELENG_4 about noon EST today (Wed), built world, > > > installed a new kernel, and rebooted. now, when I boot, I get the > > > following: > > ... > > > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s3a > > > no such device 'ad' > > > > Sounds like you left the 'ad' device out of your new kernel config. Bad > > idea. 8) > > For what it's worth, I had similar problems recently as well, although > I was getting ata_master: timeout waiting for command (from memory), This is a totally different problem. > however I did have the ad device, and the problem seemed to be related > to some sort of conflict that appeared only when I had one of the > following also in the kernel : > > options AUTO_EOI_1 > options AUTO_EOI_2 > device pcm > device pcf > > I've not narrowed it down much yet, but suffice it to say that I got > almost the same problem described above, but which automagically fixed > itself once I took out the above 4 lines. Did you take all of them out at once? The AUTO_EOI options are BAD and EVIL and we should _not_ be letting people use them. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 10:39:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B84637B683 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:39:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@privatelabs.com) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (root@misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA07519; Thu, 25 May 2000 12:38:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from privatelabs.com (mi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA04349; Thu, 25 May 2000 13:38:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@privatelabs.com) From: mi@privatelabs.com Message-Id: <200005251738.NAA04349@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 13:38:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited To: Jim Weeks Cc: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 25 May, Jim Weeks wrote: = = > In message <392C1D76.45133616@3-cities.com>, Kent Stewart writes: = > = > The sysctl code in rc IMO needs to be executed earlier. If one is = > having problems reading from an ATA boot disk, e.g. cannot load init = > or rc, these modes need to be set earlier. Why not a boot flag that = > sets atamodes to be as conservative as possible, that could be set = > in loader.conf. I see in the loader(8) man page that some sysctl = > variables can be set in loader.conf. Can atamodes be set in = > loader.conf? If not, maybe it should. = = Yes, this is it in a nutshell. All of the suggestions so far are good, = but they come to late in the boot sequence to fix this problem. May be, it is time to make PIO the default until the later sysctl switches it to dma? Or are there drives that will freak in PIO mode? -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 10:46:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5774C37B52C for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:46:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id KAA32258; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:45:43 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda32256; Thu May 25 10:45:36 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA24059; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdc24053; Thu May 25 10:44:44 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.10.1/8.9.1) id e4PHii931848; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:44:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200005251744.e4PHii931848@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpde31843; Thu May 25 10:44:29 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-Sender: cy To: Jim Weeks Cc: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 25 May 2000 11:26:06 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 10:44:29 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Jim We eks writes: > > > In message <392C1D76.45133616@3-cities.com>, Kent Stewart writes: > > > > The sysctl code in rc IMO needs to be executed earlier. If one is > > having problems reading from an ATA boot disk, e.g. cannot load init or > > rc, these modes need to be set earlier. Why not a boot flag that sets > > atamodes to be as conservative as possible, that could be set in > > loader.conf. I see in the loader(8) man page that some sysctl > > variables can be set in loader.conf. Can atamodes be set in > > loader.conf? If not, maybe it should. > > Yes, this is it in a nutshell. All of the suggestions so far are good, > but they come to late in the boot sequence to fix this problem. The kernel should probe ATA for capabilities, then set a read-only sysctl variable, which could be tested by a piece of code in an RC script that would optionally set the atamodes to a more aggressive value. The user would be responsible for turning this feature, to set atamodes to more aggressive values if possible, on in rc.conf after installation. > > Jim Weeks > --------- A mind is a terrible thing to lose! How I miss mine... My problem is a little different than yours. Since I became a manager, I was given a choice of a lobotomy or another operation. The other operation would have given me a high voice, not to mention the excruciating pain, so I opted for the lobotomy. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 10:47: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from solaris.matti.ee (solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4D337B5C1; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:46:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vallo@matti.ee) Received: from myhakas.matti.ee (myhakas.matti.ee [194.126.114.87]) by solaris.matti.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD75F2CE65; Thu, 25 May 2000 19:46:39 +0200 (EET) Received: by myhakas.matti.ee (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0156B1C5817; Thu, 25 May 2000 19:46:43 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 19:46:43 +0200 From: Vallo Kallaste To: Mike Smith Cc: Steve Roome , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4-stable won't boot Message-ID: <20000525194643.B532@myhakas.matti.ee> Reply-To: vallo@matti.ee References: <20000525134456.D28056@moose.bri.hp.com> <200005251730.KAA02309@mass.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200005251730.KAA02309@mass.cdrom.com>; from msmith@freebsd.org on Thu, May 25, 2000 at 10:30:14AM -0700 Organization: =?UTF-8?Q?AS_Matti_B=C3=BCrootehnika?= Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 10:30:14AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > options AUTO_EOI_1 > > options AUTO_EOI_2 > > device pcm > > device pcf > > > > I've not narrowed it down much yet, but suffice it to say that I got > > almost the same problem described above, but which automagically fixed > > itself once I took out the above 4 lines. > > Did you take all of them out at once? The AUTO_EOI options are BAD and > EVIL and we should _not_ be letting people use them. Then please document it in the LINT, I remember that on the first time I did custom kernel those EOI options seemed quite useful to include in kernel config. After a while following the lists they didn't seem so... -- Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 11:41: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D611337B5CE; Thu, 25 May 2000 11:40:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29149; Thu, 25 May 2000 11:40:48 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200005251840.LAA29149@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: 4-stable won't boot In-Reply-To: <20000525194643.B532@myhakas.matti.ee> from Vallo Kallaste at "May 25, 0 07:46:43 pm" To: vallo@matti.ee Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 11:40:48 -0700 (MST) Cc: msmith@FreeBSD.ORG, steve@sse0691.bri.hp.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Did you take all of them out at once? The AUTO_EOI options are BAD and > > EVIL and we should _not_ be letting people use them. > > Then please document it in the LINT, I remember that on the first time I > did custom kernel those EOI options seemed quite useful to include in > kernel config. After a while following the lists they didn't seem so... As with most things, absolutes are rare. My kernel config files on my 2.2.x systems have contained options "AUTO_EOI_1" options "AUTO_EOI_2" for ever, without problem. What makes that e-vile? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 11:53:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from solaris.matti.ee (solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BEB537B646; Thu, 25 May 2000 11:53:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vallo@matti.ee) Received: from myhakas.matti.ee (myhakas.matti.ee [194.126.114.87]) by solaris.matti.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id D909A2CE64; Thu, 25 May 2000 20:53:18 +0200 (EET) Received: by myhakas.matti.ee (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 397781C5760; Thu, 25 May 2000 20:53:23 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 20:53:23 +0200 From: Vallo Kallaste To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: msmith@FreeBSD.ORG, steve@sse0691.bri.hp.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4-stable won't boot Message-ID: <20000525205323.A1234@myhakas.matti.ee> Reply-To: vallo@matti.ee References: <20000525194643.B532@myhakas.matti.ee> <200005251840.LAA29149@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200005251840.LAA29149@freeway.dcfinc.com>; from chad@DCFinc.com on Thu, May 25, 2000 at 11:40:48AM -0700 Organization: =?UTF-8?Q?AS_Matti_B=C3=BCrootehnika?= Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 11:40:48AM -0700, "Chad R. Larson" wrote: > As with most things, absolutes are rare. > > My kernel config files on my 2.2.x systems have contained > > options "AUTO_EOI_1" > options "AUTO_EOI_2" > > for ever, without problem. > What makes that e-vile? That's right. I had those options turned on for my 2.2.2-2.2.7 system without problems, later heard the bad from lists. Now, I don't even remember what it did, perhaps Mike can say. My point was that if these options are so bad usually and sometimes definitely useful then document them in straightforward manner so no more confusion can happen. -- Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 12:15:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE50F37B64E for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 12:15:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.153]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 12:14:37 -0700 Message-ID: <392D7B72.A47AC410@3-cities.com> Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 12:13:54 -0700 From: Kent Stewart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Graham Wheeler Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems compiling FreeBSD stable References: <392D1CC3.B5351A71@cequrux.com> <392D42E0.F5AED967@cequrux.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Graham Wheeler wrote: > > Graham Wheeler wrote: > > > > Hi all > > > > I am trying to do a `make world' after cvsup'ing my whole /usr/src tree > > to the latest RELENG_4 stable release (international version). I'm > > getting a whole load of errors when it gets to compiling gcc though. I > > have attached the tail end of my make output. > > > > Also, I managed to build a kernel using the same config file as I used > > for a 4.0 kernel. The new kernel causes a page fault panic upon booting. > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can proceed? Other than the > > obvious one of going back to the source on my 4.0 CDs... > > Interestingly enough, I went and reinstalled my 4.0 release source > tree, and now I get the same errors when I try to do a make world > with that tree. Before I used cvsup at all, I could quite happily do a > make world in this tree. So something has got horribly messed up by the > process of cvsup'ing to RELENG_4 stable. > > I'm not sure what I can do now other than a complete reinstall of 4.0 > release. 8-( No problem, you just have to get back in sync. You can't expect to boot with a 4.0-Stable kernel and a 4.0-Release system and have things be normal. At boot time select /kernel.old and then upgrade your system in the proper order. I'm not using the international version but a cvsup of stable from an hour ago compiles. Re-cvsup and don't install a new kernel until you get a good build world. When I first started paying attention to 4.0, the were telling people to do the buildworld, config-make a new kernel, boot to single user mode and finish your installworld. The reason for not doing the installworld first is to keep you from shooting yourself in the foot, i.e., the /kernel.old won't work either. Good Luck, Kent Kent > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DDEFAULT_TARGET_VERSION=\"2.95.2\" -DDEFAULT_TARGET_MACHINE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd\" -DPREFIX=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/config -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp -I. -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp/xref.c > > cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DDEFAULT_TARGET_VERSION=\"2.95.2\" -DDEFAULT_TARGET_MACHINE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd\" -DPREFIX=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/config -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp -I. -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -static -o cc1plus parse.o call.o class.o cvt.o decl.o decl2.o errfn.o error.o except.o expr.o friend.o init.o lex.o method.o pt.o ptree.o repo.o rtti.o search.o semantics.o sig.o spew.o tree.o typeck.o typeck2.o xref.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `finish_struct': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x6ae8): multiple definition of `finish_struct' > > class.o(.text+0x4f94): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `finish_struct' changed from 286 to 1572 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o)(.data+0x58): multiple definition of `dollars_in_ident' > > decl2.o(.data+0x3c): first defined here > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `print_lang_identifier': > > c-decl.o(.text+0xe7c): multiple definition of `print_lang_identifier' > > ptree.o(.text+0x3e0): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `print_lang_identifier' changed from 202 to 125 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `shadow_label': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x2cc8): multiple definition of `shadow_label' > > decl.o(.text+0x49ac): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `shadow_label' changed from 102 to 126 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `xref_tag': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x68c8): multiple definition of `xref_tag' > > decl.o(.text+0xecdc): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `xref_tag' changed from 957 to 204 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `init_decl_processing': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x2f5c): multiple definition of `init_decl_processing' > > decl.o(.text+0x6000): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `init_decl_processing' changed from 7570 to 5366 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `define_label': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x2d48): multiple definition of `define_label' > > decl.o(.text+0x4a14): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `define_label' changed from 687 to 135 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `poplevel': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x10e8): multiple definition of `poplevel' > > decl.o(.text+0x6e0): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `poplevel' changed from 1427 to 706 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `shadow_tag': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x44f0): multiple definition of `shadow_tag' > > decl.o(.text+0x8090): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `shadow_tag' changed from 109 to 21 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `finish_decl': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x4888): multiple definition of `finish_decl' > > decl.o(.text+0x97bc): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `finish_decl' changed from 29 to 1082 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `maybe_build_cleanup': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x4cc4): multiple definition of `maybe_build_cleanup' > > decl.o(.text+0x118dc): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `maybe_build_cleanup' changed from 25 to 7 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `start_enum': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x713c): multiple definition of `start_enum' > > decl.o(.text+0xf5d0): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `start_enum' changed from 180 to 171 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `store_parm_decls': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x7aa0): multiple definition of `store_parm_decls' > > decl.o(.text+0x104d0): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `store_parm_decls' changed from 704 to 1650 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `insert_block': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x13e8): multiple definition of `insert_block' > > decl.o(.text+0xcb0): first defined here > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `getdecls': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x2dd0): multiple definition of `getdecls' > > decl.o(.text+0x4e04): first defined here > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `lookup_name_current_level': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x2f18): multiple definition of `lookup_name_current_level' > > decl.o(.text+0x5cb8): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `lookup_name_current_level' changed from 143 to 65 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `copy_lang_decl': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x86b4): multiple definition of `copy_lang_decl' > > lex.o(.text+0x6b18): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `copy_lang_decl' changed from 169 to 5 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `start_decl': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x4668): multiple definition of `start_decl' > > decl.o(.text+0x8128): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `start_decl' changed from 1206 to 541 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `gettags': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x2ddc): multiple definition of `gettags' > > decl.o(.text+0x4e10): first defined here > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `keep_next_level': > > c-decl.o(.text+0xf88): multiple definition of `keep_next_level' > > decl.o(.text+0x220): first defined here > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o)(.data+0x5c): multiple definition of `debug_temp_inits' > > decl.o(.data+0x24): first defined here > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `build_enumerator': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x741c): multiple definition of `build_enumerator' > > decl.o(.text+0xf894): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `build_enumerator' changed from 486 to 385 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `delete_block': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x13ac): multiple definition of `delete_block' > > decl.o(.text+0xc74): first defined here > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `finish_enum': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x71e8): multiple definition of `finish_enum' > > decl.o(.text+0xf684): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `finish_enum' changed from 528 to 563 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o)(.data+0x34): multiple definition of `flag_signed_bitfields' > > decl2.o(.data+0x0): first defined here > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `lookup_name': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x2ef0): multiple definition of `lookup_name' > > decl.o(.text+0x5ca0): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `lookup_name' changed from 23 to 37 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `complete_array_type': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x4d70): multiple definition of `complete_array_type' > > decl.o(.text+0x9a64): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `complete_array_type' changed from 361 to 283 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `pushdecl': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x239c): multiple definition of `pushdecl' > > decl.o(.text+0x36c8): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `pushdecl' changed from 2371 to 1611 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `declare_parm_level': > > c-decl.o(.text+0xfd4): multiple definition of `declare_parm_level' > > decl.o(.text+0x260): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `declare_parm_level' changed from 18 to 14 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `print_lang_decl': > > c-decl.o(.text+0xe6c): multiple definition of `print_lang_decl' > > ptree.o(.text+0x0): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `print_lang_decl' changed from 236 to 5 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `print_lang_type': > > c-decl.o(.text+0xe74): multiple definition of `print_lang_type' > > ptree.o(.text+0xec): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `print_lang_type' changed from 753 to 5 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `groktypename': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x4628): multiple definition of `groktypename' > > decl.o(.text+0x8100): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `groktypename' changed from 37 to 32 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `grokfield': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x6a4c): multiple definition of `grokfield' > > decl2.o(.text+0x1934): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `grokfield' changed from 1204 to 83 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `pushlevel': > > c-decl.o(.text+0xff4): multiple definition of `pushlevel' > > decl.o(.text+0x2bc): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `pushlevel' changed from 129 to 165 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o)(.data+0x3c): multiple definition of `warn_long_long' > > decl2.o(.data+0x14): first defined here > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `start_function': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x75a0): multiple definition of `start_function' > > decl.o(.text+0xfa7c): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `start_function' changed from 2619 to 1264 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `pushdecl_top_level': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x29e8): multiple definition of `pushdecl_top_level' > > decl.o(.text+0x4104): first defined here > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `implicitly_declare': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x2a18): multiple definition of `implicitly_declare' > > decl.o(.text+0x4698): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `implicitly_declare' changed from 189 to 245 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `kept_level_p': > > c-decl.o(.text+0xf98): multiple definition of `kept_level_p' > > decl.o(.text+0x230): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `kept_level_p' changed from 47 to 59 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `lookup_label': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x2c1c): multiple definition of `lookup_label' > > decl.o(.text+0x4860): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `lookup_label' changed from 331 to 169 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `set_block': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x1414): multiple definition of `set_block' > > decl.o(.text+0xcdc): first defined here > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `pushtag': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x15a0): multiple definition of `pushtag' > > decl.o(.text+0x20a0): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `pushtag' changed from 727 to 132 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `global_bindings_p': > > c-decl.o(.text+0xf70): multiple definition of `global_bindings_p' > > decl.o(.text+0x1b4): first defined here > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o)(.data+0x54): multiple definition of `warn_multichar' > > decl2.o(.data+0x30): first defined here > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `finish_function': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x8360): multiple definition of `finish_function' > > decl.o(.text+0x10880): first defined here > > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `finish_function' changed from 3003 to 565 in c-decl.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `implicitly_declare': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x2a81): undefined reference to `maybe_objc_check_decl' > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `finish_decl': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x4b1c): undefined reference to `maybe_objc_check_decl' > > c-decl.o(.text+0x4b51): undefined reference to `maybe_objc_check_decl' > > c-decl.o(.text+0x4bce): undefined reference to `maybe_objc_check_decl' > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o): In function `grokfield': > > c-decl.o(.text+0x6a92): undefined reference to `maybe_objc_check_decl' > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a(c-decl.o)(.text+0x7077): more undefined references to `maybe_objc_check_decl' follow > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > -- > Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cequrux.com > Director, Research and Development WWW: http://www.cequrux.com > CEQURUX Technologies Phone: +27(21)423-6065 > Firewalls/VPN Specialists Fax: +27(21)424-3656 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 12:17:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 177D237BA0B for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 12:17:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 23263 invoked by uid 0); 25 May 2000 19:17:29 -0000 Received: from p3e9e7b5d.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (62.158.123.93) by mail05.rzmi.gmx.net with SMTP; 25 May 2000 19:17:29 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22887 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 25 May 2000 16:19:25 +0200 Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 16:19:25 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4-stable won't boot Message-ID: <20000525161925.Q2305@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <392C98E1.6985F9A2@algonquincollege.com> <200005250335.UAA04703@mass.cdrom.com> <20000525134456.D28056@moose.bri.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000525134456.D28056@moose.bri.hp.com>; from steve@sse0691.bri.hp.com on Thu, May 25, 2000 at 01:44:57PM +0100 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 13:44 +0100, Steve Roome wrote: > > [ ... 'ad(4)' was absent ... ] > > For what it's worth, I had similar problems recently as well, > although I was getting ata_master: timeout waiting for command > (from memory), however I did have the ad device, and the > problem seemed to be related to some sort of conflict that > appeared only when I had one of the following also in the > kernel : > > options AUTO_EOI_1 > options AUTO_EOI_2 Referring to LINT the latter won't work everywhere. But the IDE controllers do connect to the second (slave) PIC. I guess saving microseconds for risking stability is a bad idea. :) This option(s) will gain only .1% performance gain (if this much at all) so I wouldn't bother. virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 12:39:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB1437B64E for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 12:39:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.153]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 12:39:15 -0700 Message-ID: <392D8139.7299E044@3-cities.com> Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 12:38:33 -0700 From: Kent Stewart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gerhard Sittig Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited References: <3929BB7F.60ECEFE4@airmail.net> <20000523110005.L2305@speedy.gsinet> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gerhard Sittig wrote: > > On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 19:48 -0400, Jim Weeks wrote: > > > > On Mon, 22 May 2000, Alan Edmonds wrote: > > > > > > What worked for me was to put > > > hw.atamodes=pio,,pio, > > > in /etc/sysctl.conf > > > > I tried this also. Did you by any chance use this along with > > /sbin/sysctl -w hw.atamodes=pio,pio,pio,pio in /etc/rc? > > IIRC are there some combinations of boards (i.e. controllers) and > disks out there unable to cope with each other. And in the worse > cases they do so right from the start. I struggled against such > a beast myself lately: A VIA MVP4 board (that is, with a 82c586A > PCI IDE controller) and a Fujitsu drive. Although both of them > are new and cables aren't cheap (and of course I swapped them to > make sure and I have a few of these machines and they all behave > similarly) DMA mode simply won't work. > > The problem is: I could even disable UDMA modes in BIOS -- and > all I get was that they get initialized to PIO mode when the BIOS > is done. But: As soon as the BSD kernel is loaded and sees the > hardware and activates its own drivers, negotiation takes place > again (am I right in this or do I miss a point?). The chip is > known to handle UDMA, the disk says "I can do that" and the > lowest common denominator - and thus the conclusion the driver > comes to - is "let's use it this way". Boom! And problems arise > even before the user (or admin) is able to degrade downwards to a > known to work mode (see the logs with read timeouts right after > mounting root someone else - Jim? - posted in this thread). > > What I have seen in the previos discussions - and what I missed > this time - was a simple approach like this: boot up with > conservative assumptions and have UDMA mode get activated later > via sysctl. This way *any* machine will work fine from boot to > shutdown, and the confident in their hardware or the ones wanting > to fiddle for performance could switch to higher modes for their > daily operation. There might be a minimal loss of performance > for those with hardware (combinations) capable of UDMA -- but > only from installation to the point when they throw the switch. > And I wouldn't mind the few seconds lost in the boot sequence > between kernel loading and rc execution (if it's seconds at all). > To make it even less important: How often does one boot? Once a > year? Twice a year? > > I feel this little approach to be what helps most of the > problematic cases where hardware claims high capabilities and > fails to operate with these when actually enabled. And the UDMA > switch could be prepared in /etc/sysctl.conf just as well as the > routing switch is. The important point is that you can't turn it off when your system is in trouble. They never set "flags 0xa0ffa0ff" as the default on the 2.x-3.x because it didn't work on some systems. The new ATA driver defaults to UDMA66 and doesn't give you the opportunity to turn it off when you boot and you have one of those combinations that really need it to only use PIO. I have been really slow upgrading one of my machines because of the ATA driver problems with UDMA66 HD's. I'm not going to tear a machine apart and rebuild it just to find out it suddenly won't work. The curent system is really slow but one that doesn't work is much worse. I'm not sure the delay in booting will be more than a few seconds. I got 8MB/s off a PIO 4 drive and 14MB/s off of a UDMA66 drive in 33 mode. Once you start doing any random I/O they were both equally slow. Because of the equally slow part, you might not be able to measure the difference in boot time. Unless, you are suddenly successful :). Kent > > > I even saw a post saying that someone put it into > > /root/.profile and /root/.login, although I am not sure how > > that was implemented or why. > > Setting IDE modes down to lower values (or upping them) shouldn't > be necessary this often, once should suffice absolutely. The > real problem is (as sketched above) that you might have errors > even before you can turn off UDMA mode. I found OpenBSD show the > first errors and falling back to PIO when formatting upon > installation and it couldn't even boot after installation's end. > And no matter how often I'm able to get a shell -- as long as > during installation the sysctl(8) command is missing I could be > willing to do something as much as I could, I'm simply _unable_ > to make it work. Remembering this situation and hearing about > yours I feel "being trapped" is the right phrase to name this. > > virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 > Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net > -- > If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above > ask your parents or an adult to help you. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 13:38: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C18C37B79F; Thu, 25 May 2000 13:37:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA70216; Thu, 25 May 2000 13:37:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <200005252037.NAA70216@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: 4-stable won't boot In-Reply-To: <200005251840.LAA29149@freeway.dcfinc.com> from "Chad R. Larson" at "May 25, 2000 11:40:48 am" To: chad@DCFinc.com Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 13:37:23 -0700 (PDT) Cc: vallo@matti.ee, msmith@FreeBSD.ORG, steve@sse0691.bri.hp.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Did you take all of them out at once? The AUTO_EOI options are BAD and > > > EVIL and we should _not_ be letting people use them. > > > > Then please document it in the LINT, I remember that on the first time I > > did custom kernel those EOI options seemed quite useful to include in > > kernel config. After a while following the lists they didn't seem so... > > As with most things, absolutes are rare. > > My kernel config files on my 2.2.x systems have contained > > options "AUTO_EOI_1" > options "AUTO_EOI_2" > > for ever, without problem. > > What makes that e-vile? Early versions of the 8259 (pre A version) and clones that copied that broken design. See Lint for some details: # AUTO_EOI_1 enables the `automatic EOI' feature for the master 8259A # interrupt controller. This saves about 0.7-1.25 usec for each interrupt. # This option breaks suspend/resume on some portables. # # AUTO_EOI_2 enables the `automatic EOI' feature for the slave 8259A # interrupt controller. This saves about 0.7-1.25 usec for each interrupt. # Automatic EOI is documented not to work for for the slave with the # original i8259A, but it works for some clones and some integrated # versions. I've seen lots of modern hardware that works fine with AUTO_EOI_1, but I don't dare turn ont AUTO_EOI_2 unless you like to crash and burn. It is probably possible, but non-trivial, to write code that can detect if the 8259 does AUTO EOI correctly and disable this if it doesn't. But like I said, non-trivial. -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 14:52:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A2B37BA74; Thu, 25 May 2000 14:52:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA29195; Thu, 25 May 2000 14:52:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 14:52:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Graham Wheeler Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems compiling FreeBSD stable In-Reply-To: <392D1CC3.B5351A71@cequrux.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 25 May 2000, Graham Wheeler wrote: > I am trying to do a `make world' after cvsup'ing my whole /usr/src tree > to the latest RELENG_4 stable release (international version). I'm > getting a whole load of errors when it gets to compiling gcc though. I > have attached the tail end of my make output. Try running 'make cleandir; make cleandir' in /usr/src and blowing away anything left in /usr/obj. > Also, I managed to build a kernel using the same config file as I used > for a 4.0 kernel. The new kernel causes a page fault panic upon booting. You need to install up-to-date modules at the same time as you install a new kernel. Work on automating this is underway in -current. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 16:20:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail0.bna.bellsouth.net (mail0.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C9F37B617 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 16:20:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from host-216-78-3-218.jan.bellsouth.net (host-216-78-3-218.jan.bellsouth.net [216.78.3.218]) by mail0.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id TAA17584; Thu, 25 May 2000 19:20:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 19:20:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited In-Reply-To: <200005251744.e4PHii931848@cwsys.cwsent.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 25 May 2000, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > Jim Weeks > > --------- A mind is a terrible thing to lose! How I miss mine... > > My problem is a little different than yours. Since I became a manager, > I was given a choice of a lobotomy or another operation. The other > operation would have given me a high voice, not to mention the > excruciating pain, so I opted for the lobotomy. Well, you don't have to be crazy in this business, but it helps ;_) Jim Weeks --------- A mind is a terrible thing to lose! How I miss mine... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 16:38:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.kpi.com.au (www.kpi.com.au [203.39.132.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B87537B631 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 16:38:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shevlandj@kpi.com.au) Received: from kpi.com.au (ws06.kpi.com.au [203.39.132.219]) by www.kpi.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA31012; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:37:16 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from shevlandj@kpi.com.au) Message-ID: <392DBB24.97A3C084@kpi.com.au> Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 09:45:40 +1000 From: Joe Shevland Organization: KPI Logistics Pty Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob K Cc: Steve Roome , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Transparent proxies and fetch References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for the responses and advice. I also had a newsgroup poster send in the fact that you can: Try "make FETCH_BEFORE_ARGS=-tb", or add "FETCH_BEFORE_ARGS=-tb" to /etc/make.conf. I don't have a 3.x machine to test with, but that should do it. which I believe will work as the -b option usually works when I try that. Mikko reported it is because fetch closes down its sending end before receiving the reply and the above causes it to hold it open. Regards, Joe Bob K wrote: > > On Thu, 25 May 2000, Steve Roome wrote: > > > Then again, someone might have a better solution, but IMHO I think > > it's quite rude of ISP's to divert your traffic without letting you > > know about it, imagine how you'd feel if they started diverting all > > your outgoing port23 connections and archiving everything that went > > down that line. > > > > Others may feel differently about it though! And it's becoming far too > > standard a practice now, so maybe we're supposed to move with the > > times and accept it? I dunno! > > Well, I work for an ISP that does exactly this (automatic proxy/cache of > http), and the reason we do it is because it saves thousands of dollars a > month by cutting our inbound traffic roughly in half. > > A workaround if the ISP is unwilling to exclude your IP from the > redirection (like, if you're on dialup with a dynamic IP, for example) > would be to to use a SOCKS server that's not on your ISP's network. > > *** > Another workaround would be to try to grab the files manually through ftp > (or saved through a web browser) and stick 'em in /usr/ports/distfiles/ . > *** > > However, I know for a fact that fetch (at least on 3.4R) has no problems > with Cacheflow 3040 boxes deployed. I suspect that the problem looks like > this: > > - fetch sends out the http:// request > - the ISP's gateway redirects it to a caching box > - the caching box makes the request to the server > - for some reason, there's a delay > - a timer expires in fetch, causing the "Document contains no > data" error. I would expect that it would return a different error if the > timer was expiring on the caching box (as the box would return an error as > opposed to nothing) or on the server you were trying to fetch from (for > the same reason). > > fetch appears to have a timeout switch, ie -T [seconds]. Perhaps you > could try inserting very high timeout values into the Makefiles? > > -- > Bob > "Reality is the only word in the language that should always be used > in quotes" - The Amityville Horror III > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Joe Shevland Principal Consultant KPI Logistics Pty Ltd http://www.kpi.com.au mailto:shevlandj@kpi.com.au To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 16:45: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rr.com (rdu25-28-182.nc.rr.com [24.25.28.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A910737B6B9; Thu, 25 May 2000 16:44:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@rr.com) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA44482; Thu, 25 May 2000 19:46:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 19:46:00 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: multimedia@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Cc: "David O'Brien" , Conrad Sabatier Subject: 3DNow! binutils & Mesa for -STABLE Message-ID: <20000525194600.A44195@nc.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks to David O'Brien for upgrading -current's binutils. This new version supports AMD 3DNow! for the K6-2, K6-III, and Athelon folks. Wanting 3DNow support in gas, I pulled a copy from CVS and built it for 3.4-RELEASE (w/ gdb commented out). Now Mesa and friends detect and build in 3DNow support for Mesa on -stable. For other -stable folks that want to give it a shot, just fetch copies of src/contrib/binutils and src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils modules from the latest CVS ("cvs checkout "). Also, I'll be happy to send binutils exec binaries to anyone running 3.4. ...now off to find more 3DNow apps! ;-) -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 17:29:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3871937B716 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 17:29:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca ([204.244.186.218]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12v7zo-0004Mq-00; Thu, 25 May 2000 17:29:00 -0700 Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 17:28:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Victor Ponomarev Cc: Stable Subject: Re: Improvement of VLAN Support badly needed... In-Reply-To: <392D628F.32905FAF@unet.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 25 May 2000, Victor Ponomarev wrote: > Hi All! > > Now VLAN support in stable is bad. > > Suppose you would like to really route two VLAN using a FreeBSD box as > router. > > > > host---vlan port---trunk port---vlan port---host > | > | > | > router > > Usually in that config router port configured as a trunk also, > this mean that it can received large packet. You shouldn't connect FreeBSD to trunk ports. Trunk ports should only be connected to some other switch's trunk ports. Trunk ports connect L2 switches together, not routers. Tom Uniserve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 19:26:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from MindBender.serv.net (mindbender.serv.net [207.207.83.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D2737B705 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 19:26:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michaelv@MindBender.serv.net) Received: from zeus ([207.153.149.217]) by MindBender.serv.net (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA23996 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 19:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000101bfc6b9$d3c00750$d99599cf@zeus> From: "Michael VanLoon" To: Subject: DPT SmartRAID V with FreeBSD Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 16:57:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01BFC5A1.14C16B50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BFC5A1.14C16B50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I remember someone is working on I2O based drivers for this, but I can't = remember who. Who is that person and what is the current state of these = drivers? Thanks. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BFC5A1.14C16B50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I remember someone is working on I2O = based drivers=20 for this, but I can't remember who.  Who is that person and what is = the=20 current state of these drivers? =20 Thanks.
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BFC5A1.14C16B50-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 25 22:55:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de (jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de [132.176.7.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39D337B88A for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 22:55:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de) Received: from fernuni-hagen.de (jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de [132.176.7.6]) by jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FAD1235; Fri, 26 May 2000 07:55:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <392E11BB.4C41AA4F@fernuni-hagen.de> Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 07:55:07 +0200 From: "F. Heinrichmeyer" Organization: FernUni in Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14-15mdksmp i686) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, German/Germany, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable Subject: SMP problems with 4.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yesterday my smp machine rebooted spontaneously again, after working for 1 day. Linux-emulation is compiled statically (LINUX_COMPAT). I loaded a kernel without smp (same sources, same "make world") to get a stable box again. Should i recompile the lprng-lp daemon? Here is dmesg-output: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Mon May 22 10:50:49 CEST 2000 root@es-i2.fernuni-hagen.de:/usr/src/sys/compile/ES-I2.single Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (265.26-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x633 Stepping = 3 Features=0x80fbff real memory = 268435456 (262144K bytes) avail memory = 257900544 (251856K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel.single" at 0xc031c000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 Correcting Natoma config for non-SMP Correcting Natoma config for non-SMP isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at 7.1 pci0: at 10.0 irq 11 xl0: <3Com 3c905-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xef00-0xef3f irq 10 at device 11.0 on pci0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:60:08:57:38:16 miibus0: on xl0 nsphy0: on miibus0 nsphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto xl0: supplying EUI64: 00:60:08:ff:fe:57:38:16 ahc0: port 0xec00-0xecff mem 0xfebfb000-0xfebfbfff irq 11 at device 14.0 on pci0 ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8682MB (17781520 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C) da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 8682MB (17781520 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present WARNING: / was not properly dismounted xl0: starting DAD for fe80:0001::0260:08ff:fe57:3816 xl0: DAD complete for fe80:0001::0260:08ff:fe57:3816 - no duplicates found xl0: transmission error: 90 xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 120 bytes -- Fritz Heinrichmeyer mailto:fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de FernUniversitaet Hagen, LG ES, 58084 Hagen (Germany) tel:+49 2331/987-1166 fax:987-355 http://www-es.fernuni-hagen.de/~jfh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 0: 7:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fling.sanbi.ac.za (fling.sanbi.ac.za [196.38.142.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3934137B839 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 00:07:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pvh@egenetics.com) Received: from pvh (helo=localhost) by fling.sanbi.ac.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #2) id 12vECW-000Fdi-00; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:06:32 +0200 Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 09:06:32 +0200 (SAST) From: Peter van Heusden X-Sender: pvh@fling.sanbi.ac.za To: gross@clones.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem seeing old 4.0-C filesystems from 4.0-R boot floppy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 25 May 2000 gross@clones.com wrote: > > > Did you try to remake all devices by cd'ing to /dev and doing > > ./MAKEDEV all (?) > Yes. MAKEDEV is in /mnt2/dev - i.e. it is part of the Fixit floppy - but its paths were wrong (e.g. referring to /sbin/mknod, instead of /stand/mknod), so I needed to hack it a bit. Looking at various kernel messages, and looking at what has changed over the past year, I think the problem is that my IDE disk uses bad144 - this is no longer supported, and might be causing problems. I'm going to boot off 3.4 boot floppies and see if I can see my filesystems. Peter -- Peter van Heusden pvh@egenetics.com Electric Genetics To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 1:11:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citadel.cequrux.com (citadel.cdsec.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE9237B758 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 01:11:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cequrux.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cequrux.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id KAA23680; Fri, 26 May 2000 10:11:32 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel.cequrux.com via recvmail id 23558; Fri May 26 10:10:21 2000 Message-ID: <392E31C5.8B723ED@cequrux.com> Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 10:11:49 +0200 From: Graham Wheeler Organization: Cequrux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gunnar Flygt , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems compiling FreeBSD stable References: <392D1CC3.B5351A71@cequrux.com> <392D42E0.F5AED967@cequrux.com> <20000525200010.E67107@sr.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gunnar Flygt wrote: > Have you deleted ALL of the sources and unpacked them again? I have had > similar problems when I've had something "old" lying around. > > Be sure to save your own Kernel-config file though :) Yes, I deleted /usr/src and /usr/obj, and after installing new sources did an explicit `make clean' in /usr/src before trying the `make world'. Everything compiles except for contrib, which is bombing out while compiling gcc. And then, of course, I have the kernel panic problem with 4-Stable. I can compile and install everything other than contrib, and boot a 4.0-release kernel, and the system seems okay. But I'm mostly interested in 4-stable kernel patches, in the hope that this might fix two other problems I have with 4.0-release, namely: * when running X (XFree86 4.0; my Trident Cyberblade doesn't work with XFree86 3.x), and switching out of X to a console, and then switching back to the X display, X hangs and I have to do a hard reset. This may be an XFree86-4.0 problem, or possibly (I'm hoping) a syscons problem that (I'm hoping) is fixed in 4-stable * my touch pad `psm' device is completely beserk, and unusable. -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cequrux.com Director, Research and Development WWW: http://www.cequrux.com CEQURUX Technologies Phone: +27(21)423-6065 Firewalls/VPN Specialists Fax: +27(21)424-3656 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 1:18:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citadel.cequrux.com (citadel.cdsec.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770FC37B73B; Fri, 26 May 2000 01:18:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cequrux.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cequrux.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id KAA24315; Fri, 26 May 2000 10:18:41 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel.cequrux.com via recvmail id 24307; Fri May 26 10:18:17 2000 Message-ID: <392E33A1.E1241EB0@cequrux.com> Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 10:19:45 +0200 From: Graham Wheeler Organization: Cequrux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Problems compiling FreeBSD stable References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Thu, 25 May 2000, Graham Wheeler wrote: > > > I am trying to do a `make world' after cvsup'ing my whole /usr/src tree > > to the latest RELENG_4 stable release (international version). I'm > > getting a whole load of errors when it gets to compiling gcc though. I > > have attached the tail end of my make output. > > Try running 'make cleandir; make cleandir' in /usr/src and blowing away > anything left in /usr/obj. Actually, I went as far as completely removing /usr/src and /usr/obj, and then reinstalling the src distribution from a 4.0 release CD, and then did a make world in /usr/src (which, before I ever cvsup-ed to stable, worked fine), and I got the same error with compiling gcc. Pretty weird. I then went and did a `make depend all install' in all of the directories except contrib, and then once again started a `make world', and again - same problem. I can't seem to get around it now. Anyway, I'm going to try cvsup again, and start the whole process once more. There's probably something in the order in which I'm doing things that's screwing things up, and preventing me from bootstrapping a complete system. > > Also, I managed to build a kernel using the same config file as I used > > for a 4.0 kernel. The new kernel causes a page fault panic upon booting. > > You need to install up-to-date modules at the same time as you install a > new kernel. Work on automating this is underway in -current. Okay, that makes sense. -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cequrux.com Director, Research and Development WWW: http://www.cequrux.com CEQURUX Technologies Phone: +27(21)423-6065 Firewalls/VPN Specialists Fax: +27(21)424-3656 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 3:36: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from erato.o3.net (erato.o3.net [203.75.246.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068A037B70E; Fri, 26 May 2000 03:35:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from urania@erato.o3.net) Received: from erato.o3.net (urania.o3.net [203.75.246.51]) by erato.o3.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA52677; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:35:25 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from urania@erato.o3.net) Message-ID: <392E5359.96E18DB0@erato.o3.net> Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 18:35:06 +0800 From: "Urania.C.F.Chang" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Compaq Prolant 1600 & SMP Problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've got a Compaq Prolant 1600 Server, 2 PentiumnII 500 CPU, ida diskarray control with raid 5 of 4*9G SCSI hardisk. Everythings is great with kernel.GENERIC, but .... As I turn on SMP options at conf/GENERIC, system would hang, and last message on the screen is "Mounting root from ufs:/dev/idad0s1a" I can press ctrl-alt-del and reboot the system, but cannot get boot -v message as I running smp options on. source cvsup to the newest. here goes my dmesg(single processor) and mptable Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Thu May 25 17:08:02 CST 2000 root@www.nsb.gov.tw:/usr/src/sys/compile/www Calibrating clock(s) ... TSC clock: 498667261 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193141 Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CLK_USE_TSC_CALIBRATION not specified - using old calibration method CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon (498.69-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x673 Stepping = 3 Features=0x383fbff real memory = 536870912 (524288K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x00001000 - 0x0009efff, 647168 bytes (158 pages) 0x00387000 - 0x1fff7fff, 533139456 bytes (130161 pages) avail memory = 518705152 (506548K bytes) bios32: Found BIOS32 Service Directory header at 0xc00ffee0 bios32: Entry = 0xf0000 (c00f0000) Rev = 0 Len = 1 pcibios: PCI BIOS entry at 0x80 Other BIOS signatures found: ACPI: 00000000 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc036e000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk Creating DISK md0 pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x00000000 pci_open(1a): mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000) pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=060000] [hdr=00] is there (id=71928086) npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x00000000 pci_open(1a): mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000) pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=060000] [hdr=00] is there (id=71928086) pcib0: on motherboard found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7192, revid=0x03 class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 00000000, size 28 found-> vendor=0x1013, dev=0x00b8, revid=0x45 class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base b6000000, size 25 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base c6dff000, size 12 found-> vendor=0x1011, dev=0x0022, revid=0x04 class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=2 secondarybus=1 found-> vendor=0x0e11, dev=0xa0f0, revid=0x00 class=08-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=255 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 00001800, size 8 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base c6dfef00, size 8 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7110, revid=0x02 class=06-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7111, revid=0x01 class=01-01-80, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 map[20]: type 1, range 32, base 0000f100, size 4 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7112, revid=0x01 class=0c-03-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=d, irq=0 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7113, revid=0x02 class=06-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: (vendor=0x1013, dev=0x00b8) at 11.0 pcib1: at device 13.0 on pci0 found-> vendor=0x0e11, dev=0xae43, revid=0x10 class=02-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=5 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 00002800, size 4 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base c6efddf0, size 4 found-> vendor=0x1000, dev=0x000f, revid=0x14 class=01-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=9 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 00002000, size 8 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base c6efdf00, size 8 map[18]: type 1, range 32, base c6eff000, size 12 found-> vendor=0x1000, dev=0x000f, revid=0x14 class=01-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=b, irq=10 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 00002400, size 8 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base c6efde00, size 8 map[18]: type 1, range 32, base c6efe000, size 12 found-> vendor=0x1014, dev=0x0022, revid=0x07 class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=2 secondarybus=2 pci1: on pcib1 tl0: port 0x2800-0x280f mem 0xc6efddf0-0xc6 efddff irq 5 at device 7.0 on pci1 tl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:8b:c2:0f:11 miibus0: on tl0 nsphy0: on miibus0 nsphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto tlphy0: on miibus0 tlphy0: 10base2/BNC, 10base5/AUI tl0: supplying EUI64: 00:50:8b:ff:fe:c2:0f:11 bpf: tl0 attached pci1: (vendor=0x1000, dev=0x000f) at 9.0 irq 9 pci1: (vendor=0x1000, dev=0x000f) at 9.1 irq 10 pcib2: at device 10.0 on pci1 found-> vendor=0x0e11, dev=0xae10, revid=0x03 class=01-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=11 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 00003000, size 8 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base c6ffff00, size 8 map[18]: type 1, range 32, base b8000000, size 27 ida0: port 0x3000-0x30ff mem 0xb8000000-0xbf ffffff,0xc6ffff00-0xc6ffffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci2 ida0: drives=1 firm_rev=4.16 idad0: on ida0 idad0: 26029MB (53309280 sectors), blocksize=512 Creating DISK idad0 pci0: (vendor=0x0e11, dev=0xa0f0) at 14.0 isab0: at device 20.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf100-0xf10f at device 20.1 on pci 0 ata0: iobase=0x01f0 altiobase=0x03f6 bmaddr=0xf100 ata0: mask=03 status0=50 status1=51 ata0: mask=03 status0=00 status1=00 ata0: devices = 0x4 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: iobase=0x0170 altiobase=0x0376 bmaddr=0xf108 ata1: mask=00 status0=ff status1=ff ata1: probe allocation failed pci0: (vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7112) at 0.2 irq 0 chip1: at device 20.3 on pci0 Trying Read_Port at 203 Trying Read_Port at 243 Trying Read_Port at 283 Trying Read_Port at 2c3 Trying Read_Port at 303 Trying Read_Port at 343 Trying Read_Port at 383 Trying Read_Port at 3c3 ata-: ata0 exists, using next available unit number ata-: ata1 exists, using next available unit number isa_probe_children: disabling PnP devices isa_probe_children: probing non-PnP devices fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 ata3: iobase=0x0170 altiobase=0x0376 bmaddr=0x0000 ata3: mask=00 status0=ff status1=ff ata3: probe allocation failed atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd: the current kbd controller command byte 0065 atkbd: keyboard ID 0x41ab (2) kbdc: RESET_KBD return code:00fa kbdc: RESET_KBD status:00aa kbd0: atkbd0, AT 101/102 (2), config:0x0, flags:0x3d0000 psm0: current command byte:0065 kbdc: TEST_AUX_PORT status:0000 kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:00fa kbdc: RESET_AUX status:00aa kbdc: RESET_AUX ID:0000 psm: status 00 02 64 psm: status 90 02 3c psm: status 90 02 3c psm: status 90 02 3c psm: data 08 00 00 psm: status 00 00 28 psm: status 00 02 64 psm: data 08 00 00 psm: status 00 02 64 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0-00, 2 buttons psm0: config:00000000, flags:00000000, packet size:3 psm0: syncmask:c0, syncbits:00 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 fb0: vga0, vga, type:VGA (5), flags:0x7007f fb0: port:0x3c0-0x3df, crtc:0x3d4, mem:0xa0000 0x20000 fb0: init mode:24, bios mode:3, current mode:24 fb0: window:0xc00b8000 size:32k gran:32k, buf:0 size:32k VGA parameters upon power-up 50 18 10 00 00 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 06 e0 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff VGA parameters in BIOS for mode 24 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff EGA/VGA parameters to be used for mode 24 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> sc0: fb0, kbd0, terminal emulator: sc (syscons terminal) sio0: irq maps: 0x41 0x51 0x41 0x41 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: irq maps: 0x41 0x49 0x41 0x41 sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices BIOS Geometries: 0:03fffe20 0..1023=1024 cylinders, 0..254=255 heads, 1..32=32 sectors 0 accounted for Device configuration finished. bpf: sl0 attached bpf: ppp0 attached new masks: bio 40084840, tty 4003101a, net 4007103a bpf: lo0 attached bpf: gif0 attached bpf: gif1 attached bpf: gif2 attached bpf: gif3 attached bpf: stf0 attached bpf: faith0 attached ata0-master: piomode=4 dmamode=2 udmamode=2 dmaflag=1 ata0-master: success setting up UDMA2 mode on PIIX4 chip acd0: CDROM drive at ata0 as master acd0: read 5512KB/s (5512KB/s), 256KB buffer, UDMA33 acd0: Reads: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA stream acd0: Audio: play, 16 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked no devsw (majdev=0 bootdev=0xa0200000) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/idad0s1a idad0s1: type 0xa5, start 32, end = 53309279, size 53309248 : OK start_init: trying /sbin/init tl0: starting DAD for fe80:0001::0250:8bff:fec2:0f11 tl0: DAD complete for fe80:0001::0250:8bff:fec2:0f11 - no duplicates found mptable =============================================================================== MPTable, version 2.0.15 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MP Floating Pointer Structure: location: BIOS physical address: 0x000f4ff0 signature: '_MP_' length: 16 bytes version: 1.4 checksum: 0x54 mode: Virtual Wire ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MP Config Table Header: physical address: 0x000f99a4 signature: 'PCMP' base table length: 444 version: 1.4 checksum: 0xe5 OEM ID: 'COMPAQ ' Product ID: 'PROLIANT ' OEM table pointer: 0x00000000 OEM table size: 0 entry count: 47 local APIC address: 0xfee00000 extended table length: 76 extended table checksum: 86 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MP Config Base Table Entries: -- Processors: APIC ID Version State Family Model Step Flags 1 0x10 BSP, usable 6 7 3 0x383fb ff 0 0x10 AP, usable 6 7 3 0x383fb ff -- Bus: Bus ID Type 0 PCI 1 PCI 9 ISA -- I/O APICs: APIC ID Version State Address 8 0x11 usable 0xfec00000 -- I/O Ints: Type Polarity Trigger Bus ID IRQ APIC ID PIN# INT active-lo level 1 9:A 8 23 INT active-lo level 1 9:B 8 22 INT active-lo level 1 7:A 8 30 INT active-lo level 1 13:A 8 18 INT active-lo level 1 13:C 8 18 INT active-lo level 1 13:B 8 26 INT active-lo level 1 13:D 8 26 INT active-lo level 1 11:A 8 17 INT active-lo level 1 11:C 8 17 INT active-lo level 1 11:B 8 25 INT active-lo level 1 11:D 8 25 INT active-lo level 1 10:A 8 16 INT active-lo level 1 10:C 8 16 INT active-lo level 1 10:B 8 24 INT active-lo level 1 10:D 8 24 INT active-lo level 0 18:A 8 21 INT active-lo level 0 18:C 8 21 INT active-lo level 0 18:B 8 29 INT active-lo level 0 18:D 8 29 INT active-lo level 0 16:A 8 20 INT active-lo level 0 16:C 8 20 INT active-lo level 0 16:B 8 28 INT active-lo level 0 16:D 8 28 INT active-lo level 0 15:A 8 19 INT active-lo level 0 15:C 8 19 INT active-lo level 0 15:B 8 27 INT active-lo level 0 15:D 8 27 INT active-hi edge 9 1 8 1 INT active-hi edge 9 0 8 2 INT active-hi edge 9 3 8 3 INT active-hi edge 9 4 8 4 INT active-hi edge 9 6 8 6 INT active-hi edge 9 7 8 7 INT active-hi edge 9 8 8 8 INT active-hi edge 9 12 8 12 INT active-lo edge 9 13 8 13 INT active-hi edge 9 14 8 14 INT active-hi edge 9 15 8 15 -- Local Ints: Type Polarity Trigger Bus ID IRQ APIC ID PIN# ExtINT conforms conforms 9 0 255 0 NMI conforms conforms 9 0 255 1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MP Config Extended Table Entries: Extended Table HOSED! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 5:22: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from atlrel2.hp.com (atlrel2.hp.com [156.153.255.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F1037B57C; Fri, 26 May 2000 05:21:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@sse0691.bri.hp.com) Received: from sse0691.bri.hp.com (sse0691.bri.hp.com [15.144.0.53]) by atlrel2.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC662D7E; Fri, 26 May 2000 08:21:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from steve@localhost) by sse0691.bri.hp.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA31377; Fri, 26 May 2000 13:19:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 13:19:00 +0100 From: Steve Roome To: Mike Smith Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4-stable won't boot Message-ID: <20000526131900.A31197@moose.bri.hp.com> References: <20000525134456.D28056@moose.bri.hp.com> <200005251730.KAA02309@mass.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200005251730.KAA02309@mass.cdrom.com>; from msmith@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, May 25, 2000 at 10:30:14AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 10:30:14AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > Did you take all of them out at once? The AUTO_EOI options are BAD and > EVIL and we should _not_ be letting people use them. I did, but after checking this out last night, the AUTO_EOI_2 option was the one to blame, it's EVIL indeed. Oddly, both options worked fine on the same hardware with quite a few other versions of FreeBSD, but have only stopped working with 4.0R and ata. Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 7:35:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citadel.cequrux.com (citadel.cdsec.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEA1A37B5E8 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 07:35:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cequrux.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cequrux.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id QAA20987; Fri, 26 May 2000 16:35:11 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel.cequrux.com via recvmail id 20980; Fri May 26 16:34:57 2000 Message-ID: <392E8BEB.39C4916C@cequrux.com> Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 16:36:27 +0200 From: Graham Wheeler Organization: Cequrux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Sean O'Connell" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems compiling FreeBSD stable References: <392E33A1.E1241EB0@cequrux.com> <20000526092859.B8115@stat.Duke.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sean O'Connell wrote: > > Graham- > > If you have good network connectivity, you might consider downloading > the floppies (or the OS parts of the distribution) for one of the more > recent -STABLE snapshots and install over what you have. > > Or if, you have another FreeBSD machine, do your buildworld on it > and do to make installworld over nfs (export /usr/obj and /usr/src > to the client). I also pre-build my kernels on the buildbox for all > of my install machines. Right now I'm trying to do a `make -i world' to get past the gcc problems. Once that completes, I'll try a `make world' and see if I get any further that way. I'm cautiously optimistic, to use that well-worn politician's phrase. -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cequrux.com Director, Research and Development WWW: http://www.cequrux.com CEQURUX Technologies Phone: +27(21)423-6065 Firewalls/VPN Specialists Fax: +27(21)424-3656 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 8: 2:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.polytechnic.edu.na (mail.polytechnic.edu.na [196.31.225.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C1937B744 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 08:02:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tim@polytechnic.edu.na) Received: from [196.31.225.199] (helo=polytechnic.edu.na) by mail.polytechnic.edu.na with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 12vNVc-0004dH-00; Fri, 26 May 2000 15:02:52 -0200 Message-ID: <392E91CF.84829AEB@polytechnic.edu.na> Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 16:01:35 +0100 From: Tim Priebe X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Cc: Victor Ponomarev , Stable Subject: Re: Improvement of VLAN Support badly needed... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tom wrote: > On Thu, 25 May 2000, Victor Ponomarev wrote: > > > Hi All! > > > > Now VLAN support in stable is bad. > > > > Suppose you would like to really route two VLAN using a FreeBSD box as > > router. > > > > > > > > host---vlan port---trunk port---vlan port---host > > | > > | > > | > > router > > > > Usually in that config router port configured as a trunk also, > > this mean that it can received large packet. > > You shouldn't connect FreeBSD to trunk ports. Trunk ports should only > be connected to some other switch's trunk ports. Trunk ports connect L2 > switches together, not routers. > > Tom > Uniserve I think the problem is not one of nomanclature, but that VLAN support has been in stable since 3.0, and it does not work properly. You can patch it to accept the "over sized" frames, but then the kernel crashes if you open a tcp connection. It works fine as a router with the patch, I have a firewall that is on 10 vlans, and only has 4 ethernet ports. It is perfectly stable if you do not try to initiate a tcp session from it. If you do, it will promptly crash with no panic message, filesystem syncing, etc. The vlan support is important to me, and I use it, but it is definatly not fully functional. It would be good if this could be fixed. I wanted to look into fixing it, but 2 things stopped me, the first was lack of time, and the second was some clear staments in the net mail list archives that showed a clear distain for supporting the new standards, that added 4 bytes to the ethernet header. The present code does what I need at the moment, and if I ever need more from vlan support I will probably get an ethernet card that supports it, and try again, as I understand that it functions fine with hardware that support vlans. Tim. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 8:30:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.intrepid.net (elvis.intrepid.net [209.190.164.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F5E37B91A for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 08:30:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@elvis.intrepid.net) Received: (from mark@localhost) by elvis.intrepid.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) id LAA21270 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 26 May 2000 11:30:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mark) Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 11:30:07 -0400 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Upgrading from 3.4-stable to 4.0-stable Message-ID: <20000526113007.A20984@intrepid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm getting ready to upgrade (via source) from RELENG_3 to RELENG_4. I grabbed th UPDATING file from branches/4.0-stable/src to see if there are any "gotchas", and the file begins: "Updating Information for FreeBSD current users" Well, I'm not going to -current (I'm going to -stable), so I'm not sure if this file is relevant. Perhaps it's the wrong file, or perhaps the title just hasn't been changed. Either way, are there any problems in this upgrade? I remember going from RELENG_2 to RELENG_3 had a few idiosyncrasies. I was one mention in the archives that one need to go to 4.0-release first, but I haven't been able to verify that in any documentation. Any help/insight is greatly appreciated. --Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 8:47: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (sol.cc.u-szeged.hu [160.114.8.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DAAC37BE65 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 08:46:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (8.9.3+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id RAA19376; Fri, 26 May 2000 17:47:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 12vMK0-0004Zh-00 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 17:46:48 +0200 Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 17:46:48 +0200 From: Szilveszter Adam To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading from 3.4-stable to 4.0-stable Message-ID: <20000526174648.A5910@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20000526113007.A20984@intrepid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000526113007.A20984@intrepid.net>; from mark@intrepid.net on Fri, May 26, 2000 at 11:30:07AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! On Fri, May 26, 2000 at 11:30:07AM -0400, Mark Conway Wirt wrote: > I'm getting ready to upgrade (via source) from RELENG_3 to RELENG_4. > > I grabbed th UPDATING file from branches/4.0-stable/src to see if > there are any "gotchas", and the file begins: > > "Updating Information for FreeBSD current users" Well, you guessed it, the title remained, the contents changed... You need this file. Please, make sure you read and understand what is written in the section "Upgrading from 3.x to 4.0" because following the instructions to the letter is very important. If you do this, there is no need to be afraid: people report that this upgrade has been a lot easier than the 2.2.x -> 3.x one. Hope this helps... Regards: Szilveszter ADAM Szeged University Szeged Hungary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 9:20:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from proxy.stgo.cl (machine114.justicecorp.com [204.254.85.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 772B537B55E for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:20:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcelo@msm.cl) Received: from marcelo.msm.cl (unknown [204.254.85.118]) by proxy.stgo.cl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430BC69B7A for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 00:21:49 -0400 (CLT) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000526121516.00b4db20@msm.cl> X-Sender: miturbe@msm.cl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 12:20:32 -0400 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Marcelo J. Iturbe" Subject: I need to recover files and directories.. In-Reply-To: <20000525194643.B532@myhakas.matti.ee> References: <200005251730.KAA02309@mass.cdrom.com> <20000525134456.D28056@moose.bri.hp.com> <200005251730.KAA02309@mass.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, One of my users deleted a directory. It is not in the backups. Is there a way to recover? Is there a script that looks at the file systems and recovers lost file pointers, I imagine that the info might still be on the hard drive, just the sector was marked as usable.. Thanks for the Advice Marcelo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 9:25:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C35637B55E for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:25:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01978; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:24:56 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200005261624.JAA01978@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Upgrading from 3.4-stable to 4.0-stable In-Reply-To: <20000526113007.A20984@intrepid.net> from Mark Conway Wirt at "May 26, 0 11:30:07 am" To: mark@intrepid.net (Mark Conway Wirt) Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 09:24:56 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Mark Conway Wirt wrote: > "Updating Information for FreeBSD current users" > > Well, I'm not going to -current (I'm going to -stable), so I'm not sure > if this file is relevant. Perhaps it's the wrong file, or perhaps the > title just hasn't been changed. Either way, are there any problems in > this upgrade? I remember going from RELENG_2 to RELENG_3 had a few > idiosyncrasies. I was one mention in the archives that one need to > go to 4.0-release first, but I haven't been able to verify that in > any documentation. I believe its been mentioned here before that what you want to do is a two step process. 1) Follow the instructions (meticulously) to update to 4.0-RELEASE. 2) CVSup to either -STABLE or -CURRENT, make world, build kernel, reboot. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 9:27:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.tn.home.com (ha1.rdc1.tn.home.com [24.2.7.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01F237BE42 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:27:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drew@planetwe.com) Received: from dorado.planetwe.com ([24.2.113.200]) by mail.rdc1.tn.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP id <20000526162718.MCGR26552.mail.rdc1.tn.home.com@dorado.planetwe.com>; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:27:18 -0700 From: Drew Sanford Reply-To: drew@planetwe.com Organization: PlanetWe To: "Marcelo J. Iturbe" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I need to recover files and directories.. Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 11:28:19 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain References: <200005251730.KAA02309@mass.cdrom.com> <4.3.1.2.20000526121516.00b4db20@msm.cl> In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.2.20000526121516.00b4db20@msm.cl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00052611293104.00390@dorado.planetwe.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm no FreeBSD guru, but if FreeBSD is like the rest of the *nix's I've worked with, once you delete something, unlike windows, there is no way to undelete it. On Fri, 26 May 2000, Marcelo J. Iturbe wrote: > Hello, > One of my users deleted a directory. > It is not in the backups. > Is there a way to recover? Is there a script that looks at the file systems > and recovers lost file pointers, I imagine that the info might still be on > the hard drive, just the sector was marked as usable.. > > Thanks for the Advice > Marcelo > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Drew Sanford Systems Administrator Planetwe.com Email: drew@planetwe.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 9:30:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144DC37B563 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:30:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02025; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:30:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200005261630.JAA02025@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: I need to recover files and directories.. In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.2.20000526121516.00b4db20@msm.cl> from "Marcelo J. Iturbe" at "May 26, 0 12:20:32 pm" To: marcelo@msm.cl (Marcelo J. Iturbe) Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 09:30:47 -0700 (MST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Marcelo J. Iturbe wrote: > Hello, > One of my users deleted a directory. > It is not in the backups. > Is there a way to recover? Is there a script that looks at the file systems > and recovers lost file pointers, I imagine that the info might still be on > the hard drive, just the sector was marked as usable.. Probably not if anyone or process has written to the drive since the deletion. The UFS free blocks get re-used most recently freed first. If you panic'd the machine immediately after learning of the deletion, you can get the files and/or directories back using the filesystem debugger (fsdb). It's not for the faint of heart, and requires a fair understanding of the filesystem internals. Usually the goal is to repair just enough stuff so that the filesystem check program (fsck) can put the data back together. Like, marking the inodes as allocated and let fsck find them and put them in lost+found. Don't ask me how I know this. :-) -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 9:35:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4579237BE74 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:35:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 26 May 2000 17:35:16 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 17:35:14 +0100 From: David Malone To: "Marcelo J. Iturbe" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I need to recover files and directories.. Message-ID: <20000526173514.A16988@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <200005251730.KAA02309@mass.cdrom.com> <20000525134456.D28056@moose.bri.hp.com> <200005251730.KAA02309@mass.cdrom.com> <20000525194643.B532@myhakas.matti.ee> <4.3.1.2.20000526121516.00b4db20@msm.cl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.2.20000526121516.00b4db20@msm.cl>; from marcelo@msm.cl on Fri, May 26, 2000 at 12:20:32PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, May 26, 2000 at 12:20:32PM -0400, Marcelo J. Iturbe wrote: > One of my users deleted a directory. > It is not in the backups. > Is there a way to recover? Is there a script that looks at the file systems > and recovers lost file pointers, I imagine that the info might still be on > the hard drive, just the sector was marked as usable.. If you're feeling really brave, and what was deleted was text then you could try running strings on the raw disk device and grepping for the data you're looking for. It works somethimes if you're lucky. strings /dev/rda0s1a | grep -10000 "keyword" David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 11:23:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [212.74.0.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C402937C639 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 11:16:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@pavilion.net) Received: from genius.systems.pavilion.net (genesis.tao.org.uk [194.242.131.254]) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA85656; Fri, 26 May 2000 19:16:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from joe@pavilion.net) Received: by genius.systems.pavilion.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 6530C214; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:58:22 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 18:58:22 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Michael VanLoon Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: DPT SmartRAID V with FreeBSD Message-ID: <20000526185822.D1610@pavilion.net> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , Michael VanLoon , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org References: <000101bfc6b9$d3c00750$d99599cf@zeus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <000101bfc6b9$d3c00750$d99599cf@zeus>; from michaelv@MindBender.serv.net on Wed, May 24, 2000 at 04:57:01PM -0700 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 04:57:01PM -0700, Michael VanLoon wrote: > I remember someone is working on I2O based drivers for this, but I can't remember who. Who is that person and what is the current state of these drivers? Thanks. Simon Shapiro Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 12:19:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5BB5937B54F for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 12:19:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 26864 invoked by uid 0); 26 May 2000 19:19:18 -0000 Received: from p3ee0b22e.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (62.224.178.46) by mail03.rzmi.gmx.net with SMTP; 26 May 2000 19:19:18 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA25722 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 26 May 2000 21:18:02 +0200 Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 21:18:02 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: restricting installworld to certain distributions Message-ID: <20000526211802.X2305@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-Stable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a questions about how to restrict installworld in a way, so that only the formerly installed distributions get copied. If this belongs to -questions, please tell me so (although I'm not subscribed there and don't like to post to channels I don't read personally). Here's what I did: I have a "big" machine with 2GB of disk space dedicated to FreeBSD, so I - installed 3.3-RELEASE there - cvsupped to 3.4-STABLE (if it matters: contacted cvsup.de.freebsd.org around 2000/05/23 20.00.00 UTC, and it took some two hours to transfer the 40 MB of update data which makes it somewhat hard to tell "it's from *this* point in time":) - ran "make buildworld" and "make installworld" - built a kernel with "config -r", "make depend", "make all", "make install" - updated the /etc files as outlined in the handbook ("make DESTDIR=... distrib-dirs distributions" in /sys/etc, diff and cp or patch, diff once more to make sure) This brought me to a machine running 3.4-S in regards of the kernel and userland. So I went to export /usr with -alldirs and to mount /usr/src and /usr/obj on the smaller machine. The (soon to be) router has a 120MB disk only. That's why I just installed the bin distribution from 3.3-R there (i.e. the "minimal" skeleton and I didn't mind, since all the doc and stuff is available on the other machine). This (and a little swap space of 16 MB) left me with some 25 MB of free space on the drive after installation. But when I mounted /usr/src and /usr/obj of the "server" on the router and "make installworld" there all the stuff got installed that I didn't put there in the first place. Suddenly I have manpages around and only a few KB of free space, causing a log message every once in a while. Watching the logs grow I don't even know for how long the machine will be able to work reliably. Editor sessions and manpage invocations already stop with "fs full" failures. I guess you already know what I want to ask: Is there a way to just update the installed software "no matter how voluminous the /usr/src tree is"? Is there a way for installworld to have a look at the installed distributions? Or is there a way of "binary updating" the smaller machine which I just didn't find out about up to now? BTW: Is it a feature or an error when "make installworld" won't run when /usr/src and /usr/obj are mounted (and exported) readonly? I caught it bailing out at libsdbm.a. Don't know who else could be involved since I had to remount it rw to make installworld pass this one step. virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 12:48:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (sol.cc.u-szeged.hu [160.114.8.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E826437B7D3 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 12:48:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (8.9.3+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id VAA04948; Fri, 26 May 2000 21:48:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 12vQ5q-0005Pq-00 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 21:48:26 +0200 Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 21:48:26 +0200 From: Szilveszter Adam To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: restricting installworld to certain distributions Message-ID: <20000526214826.B18664@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-Stable References: <20000526211802.X2305@speedy.gsinet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000526211802.X2305@speedy.gsinet>; from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net on Fri, May 26, 2000 at 09:18:02PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! On Fri, May 26, 2000 at 09:18:02PM +0200, Gerhard Sittig wrote: > This is a questions about how to restrict installworld in a way, > so that only the formerly installed distributions get copied. If > this belongs to -questions, please tell me so (although I'm not > subscribed there and don't like to post to channels I don't read > personally). [...] > I guess you already know what I want to ask: Is there a way to > just update the installed software "no matter how voluminous the > /usr/src tree is"? Is there a way for installworld to have a > look at the installed distributions? Or is there a way of > "binary updating" the smaller machine which I just didn't find > out about up to now? Uhm... I do not think there is a way to restrict 'make installworld' apart from the knobs in /etc/make.conf, which prevent some components from building in the first place (like sendmail) but those are more for the case when you've got your own replacements for those and don't want them to be overwritten... Which seems like an obvious problem. However, I think that a binary upgarde can handle this well, because you only select what you want to upgrade when running sysinstall. Of course you can always fiddle with cd-ing into individual directories in the /usr/src tree and doing 'make install's there but I feel these to be wildly unsupported and in fact can see quite a number of cases when they can plainly hose the system or create problems (a major upgrade being one of them but not the only one.) It is no surprise that many Linux distributions that are more package-based than we are base the upgrade procedure entirely on installing binary packages (save for the occasional kernel/modules recompile) A piece of advice though: You can always use a utility called mergemaster(8) to merge the old and new /etc files. I found it to be much more convenient than the old (and more platform-independent) way described in the Handbook that came with the 3.x series. You can either find it in the base system under /usr/sbin or as a port. Also, in order to keep up with the changing documentation, you can go to any ftp mirror site and grab the required format from /pub/FreeBSD/doc// and thus be able to track important changes without having to build the docs yourself from source which requires quite an overhead of tools. But this fact itself isn't documented yet either:-) (unless I am mistaken) > BTW: Is it a feature or an error when "make installworld" won't > run when /usr/src and /usr/obj are mounted (and exported) > readonly? I caught it bailing out at libsdbm.a. Don't know who > else could be involved since I had to remount it rw to make > installworld pass this one step. Hmmm... It would sound weird at first, but as I come to think about it, it may be possible that things are being copied around... but I haven't investigated this yet... Hope this helps... Regards: Szilveszter ADAM Szeged University Szeged Hungary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 13: 6: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from merganser.its.uu.se (merganser.its.uu.se [130.238.6.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A60837B791 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 13:05:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.csd.uu.se) Received: from regulus.student.UU.SE ([130.238.5.2]:50352 "HELO ertr1013.student.csd.uu.se") by merganser.its.uu.se with SMTP id ; Fri, 26 May 2000 22:05:20 +0200 Received: (qmail 3372 invoked by uid 1001); 26 May 2000 20:04:54 -0000 Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 22:04:54 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: restricting installworld to certain distributions Message-ID: <20000526220454.A3325@student.csd.uu.se> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-Stable References: <20000526211802.X2305@speedy.gsinet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000526211802.X2305@speedy.gsinet>; from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net on Fri, May 26, 2000 at 09:18:02PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, May 26, 2000 at 09:18:02PM +0200, Gerhard Sittig wrote: > This is a questions about how to restrict installworld in a way, > so that only the formerly installed distributions get copied. If > this belongs to -questions, please tell me so (although I'm not > subscribed there and don't like to post to channels I don't read > personally). > > Here's what I did: I have a "big" machine with 2GB of disk space > dedicated to FreeBSD, so I > - installed 3.3-RELEASE there > - cvsupped to 3.4-STABLE (if it matters: contacted > cvsup.de.freebsd.org around 2000/05/23 20.00.00 UTC, and it > took some two hours to transfer the 40 MB of update data which > makes it somewhat hard to tell "it's from *this* point in > time":) > - ran "make buildworld" and "make installworld" > - built a kernel with "config -r", "make depend", "make all", > "make install" > - updated the /etc files as outlined in the handbook ("make > DESTDIR=... distrib-dirs distributions" in /sys/etc, diff and > cp or patch, diff once more to make sure) With 3.4-stable updating '/etc' can/should be done using mergemaster instead. Otherwise you seem to have followed the recommended procedure. > > This brought me to a machine running 3.4-S in regards of the > kernel and userland. So I went to export /usr with -alldirs and > to mount /usr/src and /usr/obj on the smaller machine. > > The (soon to be) router has a 120MB disk only. That's why I just > installed the bin distribution from 3.3-R there (i.e. the > "minimal" skeleton and I didn't mind, since all the doc and stuff > is available on the other machine). This (and a little swap > space of 16 MB) left me with some 25 MB of free space on the > drive after installation. > > But when I mounted /usr/src and /usr/obj of the "server" on the > router and "make installworld" there all the stuff got installed > that I didn't put there in the first place. Suddenly I have > manpages around and only a few KB of free space, causing a log > message every once in a while. Watching the logs grow I don't > even know for how long the machine will be able to work reliably. > Editor sessions and manpage invocations already stop with "fs > full" failures. > > I guess you already know what I want to ask: Is there a way to > just update the installed software "no matter how voluminous the > /usr/src tree is"? Is there a way for installworld to have a > look at the installed distributions? Or is there a way of You can't do quite what you ask for but almost. If you look in /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 you will find some flags for 'make' to control what is/isn't built/installed. For example: 'make -DNOSHARE -DNOINFO -DNOGAMES installworld' will skip all manpages (and everything else that goes into /usr/share) and all .info files and also the stuff in /usr/games. You can also add -DNOPROFILE to avoid installing the profiled libraries. That should leave a pretty minimal system. > BTW: Is it a feature or an error when "make installworld" won't > run when /usr/src and /usr/obj are mounted (and exported) > readonly? I caught it bailing out at libsdbm.a. Don't know who > else could be involved since I had to remount it rw to make > installworld pass this one step. > Minor bug. AFAIK it is *supposed* to work with at least /usr/src mounted read-only. I don't think it does work though :-( To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 13:21: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dart.sr.se (dart.SR.SE [193.12.91.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4697B37B767 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 13:20:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: from honken.sr.se ([134.25.128.27]) by dart.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA59364 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 22:20:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: from pluto.sr.se (pluto.SR.SE [134.25.193.91]) by honken.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA89560 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 22:20:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: (from gunnar@localhost) by pluto.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA98499 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 26 May 2000 22:20:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gunnar) Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 22:20:50 +0200 From: Gunnar Flygt To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Trying make buildworld Message-ID: <20000526222050.A98476@sr.se> Reply-To: Gunnar Flygt Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG cc -O -pipe -Wall -DHAVE_DES -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/ppp/iplist.c /usr/src/usr.sbin/ppp/iplist.c: In function `iplist_setrange': /usr/src/usr.sbin/ppp/iplist.c:66: syntax error before `<' /usr/src/usr.sbin/ppp/iplist.c:64: warning: unused variable `to' /usr/src/usr.sbin/ppp/iplist.c:71: warning: control reaches end of non-void function /usr/src/usr.sbin/ppp/iplist.c: At top level: /usr/src/usr.sbin/ppp/iplist.c:71: syntax error before `else' /usr/src/usr.sbin/ppp/iplist.c:43: warning: `do_inet_aton' defined but not used /usr/src/usr.sbin/ppp/iplist.c:57: warning: `iplist_first' defined but not used /usr/src/usr.sbin/ppp/iplist.c:63: warning: `iplist_setrange' defined but not used *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/usr.sbin/ppp. *** Error code 1 Obviously I'm doing something wrong since ppp stops the compilation of fresh 4.0-STABLE cvsup. Am I missing something in /etc/make.conf or? -- __o regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 13:30:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw-nl1.origin-it.com (gw-nl1.origin-it.com [193.79.128.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428F837B554; Fri, 26 May 2000 13:30:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@de.origin-it.com) Received: from mail.de.origin-it.com (localhost.origin-it.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl1.origin-it.com with ESMTP id WAA25317; Fri, 26 May 2000 22:30:21 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@de.origin-it.com) Received: from smtprelay-de1.origin-it.com(172.16.188.53) by gw-nl1.origin-it.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma025315; Fri, 26 May 00 22:30:21 +0200 Received: from mailhub.de.origin-it.com ([130.143.166.88]) by mail.de.origin-it.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id WAA05607; Fri, 26 May 2000 22:30:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from galaxy.de.cp.philips.com (galaxy.de.cp.philips.com [130.143.166.29]) by mailhub.de.origin-it.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/hmo01feb00) with ESMTP id WAA23312; Fri, 26 May 2000 22:30:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@de.origin-it.com) Received: (from hmo@localhost) by galaxy.de.cp.philips.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/hmo14aug98) id WAA17210; Fri, 26 May 2000 22:30:16 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200005262030.WAA17210@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> Subject: Re: make buildworld failing on libssh In-Reply-To: from Kris Kennaway at "May 25, 2000 0:14:57 am" To: kris@FreeBSD.org (Kris Kennaway) Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 22:30:15 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: mackler-fb@dewline.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Helge Oldach X-Address: ORIGIN Deutschland GmbH, Billstrasse 80, D-20539 Hamburg, Germany X-Phone: +49 40 7886 464, Fax: +49 40 7886 235, Mobile: +49 172 4515513 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway: >On Wed, 24 May 2000, Adam Mackler wrote: >> I have cvsuped the RELENG_4 stable-supfile with the >> international secure-supfile, and when I make buildworld it fails, >> saying: > >Wrong supfile - you grabbed -current. Now that doesn't help CTM users. The only international CTM stuff that is currently available is int-src-cur (equivalent to -current). There is still no int-src-4 (equivalent to -stable) yet. Will it ever be? Helge To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 13:43:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F64537B7FE; Fri, 26 May 2000 13:43:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA46823; Fri, 26 May 2000 13:43:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 13:43:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Helge Oldach Cc: mackler-fb@dewline.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, markm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make buildworld failing on libssh In-Reply-To: <200005262030.WAA17210@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 26 May 2000, Helge Oldach wrote: > Now that doesn't help CTM users. The only international CTM stuff that > is currently available is int-src-cur (equivalent to -current). There is > still no int-src-4 (equivalent to -stable) yet. Will it ever be? Talk to whoever maintains the internat CTM service (probably Mark Murray) Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 13:56:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E42B237B7E8 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 13:56:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA81477; Fri, 26 May 2000 13:56:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <392EE4E0.6729CB13@gorean.org> Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 13:56:00 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0523 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Graham Wheeler Cc: "Sean O'Connell" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems compiling FreeBSD stable References: <392E33A1.E1241EB0@cequrux.com> <20000526092859.B8115@stat.Duke.EDU> <392E8BEB.39C4916C@cequrux.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Graham Wheeler wrote: > Right now I'm trying to do a `make -i world' to get past the gcc > problems. Once that completes, I'll try a `make world' and see if I get > any further that way. I'm cautiously optimistic, to use that well-worn > politician's phrase. I got bit the other day by the need to 'rm -r /usr/include/*' then do a 'make includes' in /usr/src. If this build fails, that might help you. Good luck, Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 15:24:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yoda.dccnet.com (mail.deltacable.com [207.230.239.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F076B37B78F for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 15:24:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kg@dccnet.com) Received: from COASTNT1 (unverified [209.5.131.20]) by yoda.dccnet.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.4.6) with SMTP id ; Fri, 26 May 2000 15:22:02 -0700 Received: by COASTNT1 with Microsoft Mail id <01BFC726.581A3360@COASTNT1>; Fri, 26 May 2000 15:23:29 +0100 Message-ID: <01BFC726.581A3360@COASTNT1> From: "Kevin G. Eliuk" To: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" , 'Mark Conway Wirt' Subject: RE: Upgrading from 3.4-stable to 4.0-stable Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 15:23:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Apologies for the format as I am currently force to exchange :-( Hello, Try the mail archive. I was pretty easy to do, although it is important = to follow all the steps in UPDATING in order to avoid problems booting. = The link below is a step by step that I osted a way back just after = successfully updating. http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=3D208500+0+archive/2000/free= bsd-stable/20000430.freebsd-stable -- Kevin G. Eliuk, Coast Cable and Communications Ltd. ---------- From: Mark Conway Wirt Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 4:30 PM To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Upgrading from 3.4-stable to 4.0-stable I'm getting ready to upgrade (via source) from RELENG_3 to RELENG_4. I grabbed th UPDATING file from branches/4.0-stable/src to see if there are any "gotchas", and the file begins: "Updating Information for FreeBSD current users" Well, I'm not going to -current (I'm going to -stable), so I'm not sure if this file is relevant. Perhaps it's the wrong file, or perhaps the title just hasn't been changed. Either way, are there any problems in this upgrade? I remember going from RELENG_2 to RELENG_3 had a few idiosyncrasies. I was one mention in the archives that one need to go to 4.0-release first, but I haven't been able to verify that in any documentation. Any help/insight is greatly appreciated. --Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 15:24:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay02.chello.nl (relay02.chello.nl [212.83.68.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995C137B920; Fri, 26 May 2000 15:24:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay02.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 2ee4e7c625482f2f2a1950a80f6c8d58) with ESMTP id <20000526222420.TMKB13476.relay02@chello.nl>; Sat, 27 May 2000 00:24:20 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA02287; Sat, 27 May 2000 00:24:43 GMT (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 00:24:43 +0000 From: Wilko Bulte To: Randall Hopper Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "David O'Brien" , Conrad Sabatier Subject: Re: 3DNow! binutils & Mesa for -STABLE Message-ID: <20000527002443.D1977@freebie.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: <20000525194600.A44195@nc.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000525194600.A44195@nc.rr.com>; from aa8vb@nc.rr.com on Thu, May 25, 2000 at 07:46:00PM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 07:46:00PM -0400, Randall Hopper wrote: > Thanks to David O'Brien for upgrading -current's binutils. This new > version supports AMD 3DNow! for the K6-2, K6-III, and Athelon folks. > > Wanting 3DNow support in gas, I pulled a copy from CVS and built it for > 3.4-RELEASE (w/ gdb commented out). Now Mesa and friends detect and build > in 3DNow support for Mesa on -stable. > > For other -stable folks that want to give it a shot, just fetch copies of > src/contrib/binutils and src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils modules from the latest > CVS ("cvs checkout "). Also, I'll be happy to send binutils exec > binaries to anyone running 3.4. Do thinks like fxtv use 3dnow to their advantage (I guess not)? But I assume the various mpeg* things might? -- Wilko Bulte FreeBSD, the power to serve http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 18: 0:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gremg1.net.external.hp.com (gremg1.net.external.hp.com [192.6.111.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E647637BA0D for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:00:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philippe@le-berre.com) Received: from puccini.grenoble.hp.com (puccini.grenoble.hp.com [15.128.127.194]) by gremg1.net.external.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F252214F for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 02:59:59 +0200 (METDST) Received: from aberwrach.le-berre.com (pal3narpl01a.corp.hp.com [15.112.21.50]) by puccini.grenoble.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit6.0.6 OpenMail) with ESMTP id CAA22077 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 02:59:57 +0200 (METDST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000526181250.00cd9360@puccini.grenoble.hp.com> X-Sender: philippe.le.berre/le-berre.com@ambroise.none.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 18:13:15 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org From: Philippe Le Berre Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 19:15:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rr.com (rdu25-28-182.nc.rr.com [24.25.28.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E246B37B9FB; Fri, 26 May 2000 19:15:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@rr.com) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA23842; Fri, 26 May 2000 22:16:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 22:16:07 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: wc.bulte@chello.nl Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3DNow! binutils & Mesa for -STABLE Message-ID: <20000526221607.A21656@nc.rr.com> References: <20000525194600.A44195@nc.rr.com> <20000527002443.D1977@freebie.wbnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000527002443.D1977@freebie.wbnet>; from wkb@chello.nl on Sat, May 27, 2000 at 12:24:43AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wilko Bulte: | |Do thinks like fxtv use 3dnow to their advantage (I guess not)? But I assume |the various mpeg* things might? No fxtv doesn't, and I think you're right. As I recall MMX adds SIMD integer ops which is where the boost would be for things like pixel repacking. 3DNow's primary add was parallel floating/fixed point I believe. Rather than reinvent the wheel, I'll likely stack fxtv on the hermes port one of these days if there isn't a big turn-out for an alternative video API. -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 20:10:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zipcode.corp.home.net (zipcode.corp.home.net [24.0.26.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B25BC37B885 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 20:10:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from manek@ecst.csuchico.edu) Received: from after (shiva-user17.corp.home.net [24.0.8.147]) by zipcode.corp.home.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA03259 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 20:10:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Sameer R. Manek" To: Subject: making 4.0 DOS resistant Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 20:10:47 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone know of any websites that discuss how to make a freebsd 4.0 more dos resistant? Do any of the irc server admins on this list have any pointers? Sameer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 20:13:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2011637B885 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 20:13:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E81AF1C5C; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:13:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 23:13:37 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: "Sameer R. Manek" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: making 4.0 DOS resistant Message-ID: <20000526231337.T86725@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from manek@ecst.csuchico.edu on Fri, May 26, 2000 at 08:10:47PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, May 26, 2000 at 08:10:47PM -0700, Sameer R. Manek wrote: > Does anyone know of any websites that discuss how to make a freebsd 4.0 more > dos resistant? Do any of the irc server admins on this list have any > pointers? stay tuned... though I'll probably post my findings/suggestions on -security when I finally write them up. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect / Computer Horizons Corp - CVM e-mail: billf@chc-chimes.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 20:36:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f156.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A52D37B9A7 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 20:36:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmd526@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 79580 invoked by uid 0); 27 May 2000 03:36:56 -0000 Message-ID: <20000527033656.79579.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.220.228.2 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 26 May 2000 20:36:56 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.220.228.2] From: "John Daniels" To: doug@gorean.org Cc: freebsd-Stable@freebsd.org Subject: make includes Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 23:36:56 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi: I am a newbie. Just when I thought I was prepared to go from 4.0-RELEASE to 4.0-STABLE (after hours of research and preparation), I find that ... Doug Barton wrote: >I got bit the other day by the need to 'rm -r /usr/include/*' then do >a 'make includes' in /usr/src. If this build fails, that might help >you. I haven't seen this documented anywhere. When should this be done? Is there a reason it is not in the handbook (chapter 7 Configuring the FreeBSD Kermel, or chapter 18 The cutting edge: which explains how to keep up-to-date with -Current and -Stable)? Are there any other (undocumented) "gotchas" that people should know about? John ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 21: 1:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358CE37B57D for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 21:01:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA83292; Fri, 26 May 2000 21:01:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <392F488A.96F85F6B@gorean.org> Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 21:01:14 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0523 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Daniels Cc: freebsd-Stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make includes References: <20000527033656.79579.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Daniels wrote: > > Hi: > > I am a newbie. Just when I thought I was prepared to go from 4.0-RELEASE to > 4.0-STABLE (after hours of research and preparation), I find that ... > > Doug Barton wrote: > >I got bit the other day by the need to 'rm -r /usr/include/*' then do > >a 'make includes' in /usr/src. If this build fails, that might help > >you. > > I haven't seen this documented anywhere. When should this be done? Is > there a reason it is not in the handbook (chapter 7 Configuring the FreeBSD > Kermel, or chapter 18 The cutting edge: which explains how to keep > up-to-date with -Current and -Stable)? Are there any other (undocumented) > "gotchas" that people should know about? Nuking /usr/include is usually only necessary when extreme changes have happened. Although it's rarely actually necessary to do it, it usually doesn't hurt. A safer method would be: cd /usr mv include include-old mkdir include chmod 755 include cd /usr/src make includes That way if your buildworld bombs for some reason, you've still got the set of includes that are in sync with your current environment. Nuke'em after you're done with installworld and kernel rebuild/reinstall. I'm working on some updates to the "make world" docs, but time has been really lacking lately. I wouldn't worry _too_ much though... especially in -Stable. People work really hard to make sure that big problems like this don't crop up very often. Good luck, Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 26 22:50: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhop1.nyroc.rr.com (mailhop1-1.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D01B37B57A for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 22:49:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reichman@twcny.rr.com) Received: from mailout1.nyroc.rr.com ([24.92.226.146]) by mailhop1.nyroc.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 01:46:22 -0400 Received: from mail1.twcny.rr.com ([24.92.226.139]) by mailout1.nyroc.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 01:49:06 -0400 Received: from twcny.rr.com ([24.24.27.98]) by mail1.twcny.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-53939U80000L80000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 01:49:06 -0400 Message-ID: <392F2A57.4B2C52EA@twcny.rr.com> Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 01:52:23 +0000 From: "Mark S. Reichman" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES ???? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just noticed while ftp'ing to various freebsd sites that the ftp client starts up in passive mode. I dont recall it doing this in the past. In fact, the first thing one must now do is shut passive mode off when first entering the ftp client. I changed the login.conf file to FTP_MASSIVE_MODE=NO and did cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf. Should this be set to YES for some reason?? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 0:22: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isabase.philol.msu.ru (isabase.philol.msu.ru [195.208.217.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999B437B91E for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 00:21:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grg@isabase.philol.msu.ru) Received: (from grg@localhost) by isabase.philol.msu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA52492; Sat, 27 May 2000 11:21:55 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from grg) Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 11:21:55 +0400 From: Grigoriy Strokin To: Gerhard Sittig Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ad0 drivers revisited Message-ID: <20000527112155.A52404@isabase.philol.msu.ru> References: <3929BB7F.60ECEFE4@airmail.net> <20000523110005.L2305@speedy.gsinet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000523110005.L2305@speedy.gsinet>; from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net on Tue, May 23, 2000 at 11:00:06AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 23, 2000 at 11:00:06AM +0200, Gerhard Sittig wrote: > On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 19:48 -0400, Jim Weeks wrote: > > > > On Mon, 22 May 2000, Alan Edmonds wrote: > > > > > > What worked for me was to put > > > hw.atamodes=pio,,pio, > > > in /etc/sysctl.conf > > > > I tried this also. Did you by any chance use this along with > > /sbin/sysctl -w hw.atamodes=pio,pio,pio,pio in /etc/rc? > > IIRC are there some combinations of boards (i.e. controllers) and > disks out there unable to cope with each other. And in the worse > cases they do so right from the start. I struggled against such Yes. And also, in least worst cases they do so right from the start *SOMETIMES*. That is, in most cases I turn my machine on, the sysctl -w ... line works as expected and the machine boots sucessfully. In less frequest cases, however, I see the message /sbin/jkhh32980y&*T^(*&GHihg: not found or something like that, and the start-up process stops. I turn the machine off, then on again, and then all goes well. > a beast myself lately: A VIA MVP4 board (that is, with a 82c586A > PCI IDE controller) and a Fujitsu drive. Although both of them A have 82C598MVP chip and Fujitsu drive > are new and cables aren't cheap (and of course I swapped them to > make sure and I have a few of these machines and they all behave > similarly) DMA mode simply won't work. > > The problem is: I could even disable UDMA modes in BIOS -- and > all I get was that they get initialized to PIO mode when the BIOS > is done. But: As soon as the BSD kernel is loaded and sees the > hardware and activates its own drivers, negotiation takes place The same happens to me > again (am I right in this or do I miss a point?). The chip is > known to handle UDMA, the disk says "I can do that" and the > lowest common denominator - and thus the conclusion the driver > comes to - is "let's use it this way". Boom! And problems arise > even before the user (or admin) is able to degrade downwards to a > known to work mode (see the logs with read timeouts right after > mounting root someone else - Jim? - posted in this thread). > > > What I have seen in the previos discussions - and what I missed > this time - was a simple approach like this: boot up with > conservative assumptions and have UDMA mode get activated later > via sysctl. This way *any* machine will work fine from boot to > shutdown, and the confident in their hardware or the ones wanting > to fiddle for performance could switch to higher modes for their > daily operation. There might be a minimal loss of performance > for those with hardware (combinations) capable of UDMA -- but > only from installation to the point when they throw the switch. > And I wouldn't mind the few seconds lost in the boot sequence > between kernel loading and rc execution (if it's seconds at all). > To make it even less important: How often does one boot? Once a > year? Twice a year? I boot my home machine once a day :) And anyway, the kernel always turns DMA on on boot, at the moment. -- === Grigoriy Strokin, Lomonosov University (MGU), Moscow === === contact info: http://isabase.philol.msu.ru/~grg/ === To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 0:26: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from maillist.kabelfoon.nl (maillist.kabelfoon.nl [194.178.9.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898BA37B91E for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 00:26:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@paracas.nl) Received: from rome.paracas.nl (k2ij114.dial.kabelfoon.nl [212.136.96.114]) by maillist.kabelfoon.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F463AA4 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 09:26:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from boston.paracas.nl (boston.paracas.nl [192.168.0.2]) by rome.paracas.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25846 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 09:25:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mark@paracas.nl) X-URL: http://www.paracas.nl Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000527091718.00b2e650@pop.paracas.nl> X-Sender: markr@pop.paracas.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 09:25:58 +0200 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mark Ruys Subject: World writable files in RELENG_3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've CVSuped src-all from RELENG_3 (stable 3.4) and did a make world. I noticed several world-writable files in /usr/obj, amoung which: drwxrwxrwx 2 uucp uucp 512 May 20 16:53 /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/var/spool/uucppublic -rw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 14336 May 20 18:47 /usr/obj/usr/src/share/isdn/0.al -rw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 14336 May 20 18:47 /usr/obj/usr/src/share/isdn/1.al -rw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 12288 May 20 18:47 /usr/obj/usr/src/share/isdn/2.al -rw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 14336 May 20 18:47 /usr/obj/usr/src/share/isdn/3.al -rw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 14336 May 20 18:47 /usr/obj/usr/src/share/isdn/4.al -rw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 16384 May 20 18:47 /usr/obj/usr/src/share/isdn/5.al -rw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 12288 May 20 18:47 /usr/obj/usr/src/share/isdn/6.al -rw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 10240 May 20 18:47 /usr/obj/usr/src/share/isdn/7.al -rw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 14336 May 20 18:47 /usr/obj/usr/src/share/isdn/8.al -rw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 10240 May 20 18:47 /usr/obj/usr/src/share/isdn/9.al -rw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 4608 May 20 18:47 /usr/obj/usr/src/share/isdn/beep.al -rw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 67584 May 20 18:47 /usr/obj/usr/src/share/isdn/msg.al The cause is a mask of 666, for example in /usr/src/share/isdb/0.al.uu: begin 666 0.al ... end Also, shouldn't the sticky bit be set in /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/var/spool/uucppublic? Is there a good reason for these 666 files? I'm not confortable with them. Mark Ruys To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 1:31:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8481137B785; Sat, 27 May 2000 01:31:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA04454; Sat, 27 May 2000 01:31:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 01:31:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: John Daniels Cc: doug@gorean.org, freebsd-Stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make includes In-Reply-To: <20000527033656.79579.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 26 May 2000, John Daniels wrote: > I haven't seen this documented anywhere. When should this be done? Is When you know what you're doing :-) You don't need to do it in normal operation..make world as documented is sufficient. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 3:53:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 64-40-71-66.mebtel.net (64-40-71-66.mebtel.net [64.40.71.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF4137B9B4 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 03:53:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dlt@mebtel.net) Received: (from dlt@localhost) by mail1.new-vista.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA01286 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 26 May 2000 17:39:06 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 17:39:06 -0400 From: Derek Tattersall To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Strange message Message-ID: <20000526173906.A1281@mebtel.net> Reply-To: dlt@mebtel.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a system, cvsup'ed last week, which returns the following message on reboot. I am having trouble deciding what it means, and what I have misconfigured to cause it. Can anybody enlighten me? The message: lorne /kernel: arplookup 0.0.0.0 failed: host is not on local network -- Derek Tattersall dlt@mebtel.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 3:59:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 64-40-71-66.mebtel.net (64-40-71-66.mebtel.net [64.40.71.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC9A037B964 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 03:59:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dlt@mebtel.net) Received: (from dlt@localhost) by 64-40-71-66.mebtel.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA00972 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 27 May 2000 06:59:50 -0400 Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 06:59:50 -0400 From: Derek Tattersall To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Strange message Message-ID: <20000527065950.A967@mebtel.net> Reply-To: dlt@mebtel.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cvsup'ed to 4.0 stable on a generic pentiu, II MMX box with a Netgear tulip card. I am getting a message shortly after boot-up finishes which puzzles me. The message follows: lorne /kernel: arplookup 0.0.0.0 failed: host is not on local network. Can anyone tell me what I have misconfigured to cause this? And what are the implications for the operation of my system? -- Derek Tattersall dlt@mebtel.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 4:21:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nohow.demon.co.uk (nohow.demon.co.uk [212.228.18.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082B737B620 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 04:21:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noway@nohow.demon.co.uk) Received: from localhost (noway@localhost) by nohow.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA33285; Sat, 27 May 2000 12:20:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from noway@nohow.demon.co.uk) Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 12:20:00 +0100 (BST) From: Jose Marques To: Joe Shevland Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Transparent proxies and fetch In-Reply-To: <392C7B22.96CFD7AA@kpi.com.au> Message-ID: X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 25 May 2000, Joe Shevland wrote: > My question now is how do I work around this issue? I've tried setting the > HTTP_PROXY variable but this just makes the 'make install' of the ports fail > very quickly: Add the line: FETCH_BEFORE_ARGS=-tb to your "/etc/make.conf" file. I would not bother setting a HTTP_PROXY environment variable if the ISP does a transparent proxy. -- Jose Marques To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 5:35:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from best.llama.com (llama.com [63.194.69.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72ED537B64B for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 05:35:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from the@llama.com) Received: by best.llama.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 64DE7785D; Sat, 27 May 2000 05:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by best.llama.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5C8D26A; Sat, 27 May 2000 05:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 05:35:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Sam Habash To: Bill Fumerola Cc: "Sameer R. Manek" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: making 4.0 DOS resistant In-Reply-To: <20000526231337.T86725@jade.chc-chimes.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I wonder if anybody has incoroprated support for syncookies a la linux. --Sam On Fri, 26 May 2000, Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Fri, May 26, 2000 at 08:10:47PM -0700, Sameer R. Manek wrote: > > Does anyone know of any websites that discuss how to make a freebsd 4.0 more > > dos resistant? Do any of the irc server admins on this list have any > > pointers? > > stay tuned... though I'll probably post my findings/suggestions on -security > when I finally write them up. > > -- > Bill Fumerola - Network Architect / Computer Horizons Corp - CVM > e-mail: billf@chc-chimes.com / billf@FreeBSD.org > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 5:52:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.anthologeek.net (day.anthologeek.net [212.43.217.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F2E37B9F3 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 05:52:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sw@anthologeek.net) Received: by mail2.anthologeek.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9956017146; Sat, 27 May 2000 14:50:14 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 14:50:14 +0200 From: Sameh Ghane To: Sam Habash Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: making 4.0 DOS resistant Message-ID: <20000527145013.C90356@anthologeek.net> References: <20000526231337.T86725@jade.chc-chimes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from the@llama.com on Sat, May 27, 2000 at 05:35:24AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Le Sat, May 27, 2000 at 05:35:24AM -0700, Sam Habash ecrivit: > I wonder if anybody has incoroprated support for syncookies a la linux. /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT: # ICMP_BANDLIM enables icmp error response bandwidth limiting. You # typically want this option as it will help protect the machine from # D.O.S. packet attacks. # options ICMP_BANDLIM You could also try: options TCP_DROP_SYNFIN #drop TCP packets with SYN+FIN options TCP_RESTRICT_RST #restrict emission of TCP RST if you run an IRC server or such a thing. -- Sameh. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 5:54:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.anthologeek.net (day.anthologeek.net [212.43.217.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CCBB37BA25 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 05:54:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sw@anthologeek.net) Received: by mail2.anthologeek.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C69CB17146; Sat, 27 May 2000 14:52:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 14:52:23 +0200 From: Sameh Ghane To: Derek Tattersall Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange message Message-ID: <20000527145223.D90356@anthologeek.net> References: <20000527065950.A967@mebtel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000527065950.A967@mebtel.net>; from dlt@mebtel.net on Sat, May 27, 2000 at 06:59:50AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Le Sat, May 27, 2000 at 06:59:50AM -0400, Derek Tattersall ecrivit: > I cvsup'ed to 4.0 stable on a generic pentiu, II MMX box with a Netgear tulip > card. I am getting a message shortly after boot-up finishes which puzzles me. > The message follows: > lorne /kernel: arplookup 0.0.0.0 failed: host is not on local network. > > Can anyone tell me what I have misconfigured to cause this? And what are the > implications for the operation of my system? Can you show us the output of 'ifconfig -a' ? I think you misconfigured the netmask or something like this. -- Sameh. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 5:55:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rr.com (rdu25-28-182.nc.rr.com [24.25.28.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 367CF37B9F3 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 05:55:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@rr.com) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA00919 for stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 May 2000 08:56:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 08:56:57 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: killall question Message-ID: <20000527085657.A901@nc.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a script I run named "newroot". I want to kill it with killall. > ps -ax | grep newroot 842 1 rhh /bin/sh /home/rhh/bin/newroot 360 > killall newroot No processes matching ``newroot'' > killall -m newroot No processes matching ``newroot'' > killall -m '.*newroot.*' No processes matching ``.*newroot.*'' How? -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 5:58:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8227737BA25 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 05:58:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from housley@thehousleys.net) Received: from thehousleys.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA29766; Sat, 27 May 2000 08:58:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from housley@thehousleys.net) Message-Id: <200005271258.IAA29766@thehousleys.net> Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 12:58:25 -0000 To: Randall Hopper , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: killall question From: X-Mailer: TWIG 2.2.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Randall Hopper said: > I have a script I run named "newroot". I want to kill it with killall. > > > ps -ax | grep newroot > 842 1 rhh /bin/sh /home/rhh/bin/newroot 360 > You will have to do something like kill `ps -ax | grep newroot | sed -e '^[0-9]*'` Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 6:33: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.rdc3.on.home.com (mail1.rdc3.on.home.com [24.2.9.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3AA37B51F for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 06:33:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@rockatronic.com) Received: from rockatronic.com ([24.114.50.29]) by mail1.rdc3.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with ESMTP id <20000527133301.RHFQ416.mail1.rdc3.on.home.com@rockatronic.com>; Sat, 27 May 2000 06:33:01 -0700 Message-ID: <392FCE92.3F7A809@rockatronic.com> Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 09:33:06 -0400 From: Mike X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Mark S. Reichman" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES ???? References: <392F2A57.4B2C52EA@twcny.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey I know this one!. FTP_PASSIVE_MODE is a "all ot nothing" environment variable in that if it's there it's yes. In other words FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=foo is the same as FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES (or no). So remove it entirely if you don't want PASV mode. Mike "Mark S. Reichman" wrote: > > I just noticed while ftp'ing to various freebsd > sites that the ftp client starts up in passive mode. > I dont recall it doing this in the past. In fact, the first thing > one must now do is shut passive mode off when first > entering the ftp client. I changed the login.conf > file to FTP_MASSIVE_MODE=NO and did cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf. > Should this be set to YES for some reason?? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 6:35:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rr.com (rdu25-28-182.nc.rr.com [24.25.28.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D327337BAC0 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 06:35:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@rr.com) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01817; Sat, 27 May 2000 09:36:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 09:36:25 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: housley@thehousleys.net Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: killall question Message-ID: <20000527093625.A1557@nc.rr.com> References: <200005271258.IAA29766@thehousleys.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200005271258.IAA29766@thehousleys.net>; from housley@thehousleys.net on Sat, May 27, 2000 at 12:58:25PM -0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG housley@thehousleys.net: |Randall Hopper said: | |> I have a script I run named "newroot". I want to kill it with killall. |> |> > ps -ax | grep newroot |> 842 1 rhh /bin/sh /home/rhh/bin/newroot 360 |> |You will have to do something like | |kill `ps -ax | grep newroot | sed -e '^[0-9]*'` Ok. I thought I'd at least try to use the system version, but sounds like it's just not as flexible as killall's on other systems. Here's the shell script I settled on to override the default /usr/bin/killall: ps -x | grep "$1" | egrep -v "grep|$0" | awk '{print $1;}' Thanks for the help. -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 6:53:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.utfors.se (mail.utfors.se [195.58.103.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D2F37B68A for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 06:53:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from watchman@ludd.luth.se) Received: from ludd.luth.se (md4690639.utfors.se [212.105.6.57]) by mail.utfors.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17046 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 15:53:01 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <392FEFF8.81DCE83E@ludd.luth.se> Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 15:55:36 +0000 From: Joachim =?iso-8859-1?Q?Str=F6mbergson?= Organization: Acne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: major problems doing buildworld after cvsup in FreeBSD 4.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------836CF1A536F91ACBE08D4345" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------836CF1A536F91ACBE08D4345 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi! I've got some major problems doing a "make buildworld" after updating the source tree. The problem is not related to a recent change to the CVS DB, but something wrong in my system that I can't shake out. Background: ----------- I bought the FreeBSD 4.0 March CDs from Walnut Creek. I installed everything except the crypto stuff (I'm living in Sweden). Since I've got a SMP system, I created a custom config file and built a new kernel. After setting upp PPP, I set up cvsup and updated both the stable sources, the ports and the crypto from the international site. (All cvs scripts are included with the mail). I then tried a buildworld, but it failed. Ok, no worries - probably just a snag. So I waited a few dayes, tracked freebsd-stable and did a few more updated. Nothing on the maillist showed a problem, but updates and buildworlds kept faling. Alas, not a problem with the real CVS, but a local problem. Thing tried: ------------ (1) remove of /usr/src and /usr/local/etc/cvsup/su/src*, reinstall from CDs and doing a rebuild. make buildworld fails anyway. (2) reinstall of system (yes, I know it's stupid - will never do this again). make buildworld works fine - until I do a cvsup again... (3) make buildworld with either GENERIC or custom kernel. No difference. If it's on the clean system it works, if the sources have been updated - or reinstalled buildworld fails. (4) Compare/check of /etc/make.conf. I've even tried my old /etc/make.conf from 3.4 Stable with the same negative results as before. Things not tried: ----------------- (5) Just do an update of the sources without either ports or crypto. The latter should have been omitted and a test buildworld made. I messed up, and don't wan't to reinstall again. This must be solvable in a more intelligent way. (6) make world or make installworld. (7) make buildworld nocrypt or make buildworld nosecure. In "The Complete FreeBSD" these extra flags are listed, but the 4.0 Makefile does not recognize them. Questions, thoughts: -------------------- (8) What else is changed when doing a cvsup on src-all? Obviously the changes aren't contained to /usr/src. Otherwise I should be able to reinstall the sources and successfully do a buildworld, correct? (9) Looking in the logfile, and checking the files it seems that the problem is quite related to the crypto. Should I install the crypto stuff from the CD anyway? Is this totally unrelated? (9) Anybody have an idea where I screwed up? Any help or pointers would be greatly appreciated. Logfile snippet: ---------------- cd /usr/src/usr.bin/strip; make _EXTRADEPEND echo strip: /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libc.a >> .depend /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-esp.c:53: des.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-esp.c:54: blowfish.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-esp.c:56: rc5.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-esp.c:59: cast.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 sh config_h.sh sh writemain.sh Extracting writemain (with variable substitutions) Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions) sh writemain lib/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a > perlmain.c rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/suidperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/suidperl -DIAMSUID -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include perlmain.c sperl.c cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/suidperl; make _EXTRADEPEND echo suidperl: /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libc.a lib/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libperl.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libm.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libcrypt.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libmd.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libxpg4.a >> .depend ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/pod ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/pod/pod2man ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/pod/pod2html ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/pod/pod2latex ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/pod/pod2text ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/pod/pod ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/utils ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/utils/c2ph ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/utils/h2ph ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/utils/h2xs ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/utils/perlbug ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/utils/perlcc ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/utils/perldoc ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/utils/pl2pm ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/utils/splain ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/x2p ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/x2p/a2pl ln -sf /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/x2p/a2pl/../../libperl/config.SH-elf.i386 config.sh sh config_h.sh Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions) rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/x2p/a2pl/../../../../../contrib/perl5/x2p -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/x2p/a2pl -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/x2p/a2pl/temp -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/x2p/a2pl/../../../../../contrib/perl5/x2p/a2p.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/x2p/a2pl/../../../../../contrib/perl5/x2p/hash.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/x2p/a2pl/../../../../../contrib/perl5/x2p/str.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/x2p/a2pl/../../../../../contrib/perl5/x2p/util.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/x2p/a2pl/../../../../../contrib/perl5/x2p/walk.c cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/x2p/a2pl; make _EXTRADEPEND echo a2p: /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libc.a >> .depend ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/x2p/s2pl ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/x2p/find2pl ===> gnu/usr.sbin 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error -- Cheers! Joachim - Alltid i harmonisk svängning --- FairLight ------ FairLight ------ FairLight ------ FairLight --- Joachim Strömbergson ASIC SoC designer, nice to CUTE animals Phone: +46(0)31 - 27 98 47 Web: http://www.ludd.luth.se/~watchman --------------- Spamfodder: regeringen@regeringen.se --------------- --------------836CF1A536F91ACBE08D4345 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="secure-supfile" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="secure-supfile" # $Id: secure-stable-supfile,v 1.9.2.2 1999/02/11 20:14:51 jdp Exp $ # # This file contains all of the "CVSup collections" that make up the # source tree of the FreeBSD-stable international secure distribution. # If you are outside the USA or Canada, use this file. # # CVSup (CVS Update Protocol) allows you to download the latest CVS # tree (or any branch of development therefrom) to your system easily # and efficiently (far more so than with sup, which CVSup is aimed # at replacing). If you're running CVSup interactively, and are # currently using an X display server, you should run CVSup as follows # to keep your CVS tree up-to-date: # # cvsup secure-stable-supfile # # If not running X, or invoking cvsup from a non-interactive script, then # run it as follows: # # cvsup -g -L 2 secure-stable-supfile # # You may wish to change some of the settings in this file to better # suit your system: # # base=/usr # This specifies the root where CVSup will store information # about the collections you have transferred to your system. # A setting of "/usr" will generate this information in # /usr/sup. Even if you are CVSupping a large number of # collections, you will be hard pressed to generate more than # ~1MB of data in this directory. You can override the # "base" setting on the command line with cvsup's "-b base" # option. This directory must exist in order to run CVSup. # # prefix=/usr # This specifies where to place the requested files. A # setting of "/usr" will place all of the files requested # in "/usr/src" (i.e., "/usr/src/eBones" and "/usr/src/secure"). # The prefix directory must exist in order to run CVSup. # Defaults that apply to all the collections *default host=cvsup.internat.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default prefix=/usr # The following line is for 3-stable. If you want 2.2-stable, change # "RELENG_3" to "RELENG_2_2". *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3 *default delete use-rel-suffix # If your network link is a T1 or faster, comment out the following line. *default compress ## The international secure collections. src-crypto src-eBones src-secure --------------836CF1A536F91ACBE08D4345 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="ports-supfile" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="ports-supfile" # $Id: ports-supfile,v 1.14.2.1 1999/02/11 20:14:51 jdp Exp $ # # This file contains all of the "CVSup collections" that make up the # FreeBSD-current ports collection. # # CVSup (CVS Update Protocol) allows you to download the latest CVS # tree (or any branch of development therefrom) to your system easily # and efficiently (far more so than with sup, which CVSup is aimed # at replacing). If you're running CVSup interactively, and are # currently using an X display server, you should run CVSup as follows # to keep your CVS tree up-to-date: # # cvsup ports-supfile # # If not running X, or invoking cvsup from a non-interactive script, then # run it as follows: # # cvsup -g -L 2 ports-supfile # # You may wish to change some of the settings in this file to better # suit your system: # # host=CHANGE_THIS.FreeBSD.org # This specifies the server host which will supply the # file updates. You must change it to one of the CVSup # mirror sites listed in the FreeBSD Handbook at # http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/mirrors.html. # You can override this setting on the command line # with cvsup's "-h host" option. # # base=/usr # This specifies the root where CVSup will store information # about the collections you have transferred to your system. # A setting of "/usr" will generate this information in # /usr/sup. Even if you are CVSupping a large number of # collections, you will be hard pressed to generate more than # ~1MB of data in this directory. You can override the # "base" setting on the command line with cvsup's "-b base" # option. This directory must exist in order to run CVSup. # # prefix=/usr # This specifies where to place the requested files. A # setting of "/usr" will place all of the files requested # in "/usr/ports" (e.g., "/usr/ports/devel", "/usr/ports/lang"). # The prefix directory must exist in order to run CVSup. # Defaults that apply to all the collections # # IMPORTANT: Change the next line to use one of the CVSup mirror sites # listed at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/mirrors.html. *default host=cvsup.fi.FreeBSD.ORG # *default host=cvsup3.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=. *default delete use-rel-suffix # If your network link is a T1 or faster, comment out the following line. *default compress ## Ports Collection. # # The easiest way to get the ports tree is to use the "ports-all" # mega-collection. It includes all of the individual "ports-*" # collections, # ports-all release=cvs # These are the individual collections that make up "ports-all". If you # use these, be sure to comment out "ports-all" above. ports-afterstep ports-archivers ports-astro ports-audio ports-base ports-benchmarks ports-cad ports-comms ports-converters ports-databases ports-deskutils ports-devel ports-editors ports-elisp ports-emulators ports-ftp ports-games ports-gnome ports-graphics ports-ipv6 ports-irc ports-java ports-kde ports-lang ports-mail ports-math ports-mbone ports-misc ports-net ports-news ports-offix ports-palm ports-perl5 ports-plan9 ports-print ports-python ports-security ports-shells ports-sysutils ports-tcl76 ports-tcl80 ports-tcl81 ports-tcl8 ports-tcl83 ports-textproc ports-tk42 ports-tk80 ports-tk82 ports-tk83 ports-tkstep80 ports-windowmaker ports-www ports-x11 ports-x11-clocks ports-x11-fm ports-x11-fonts ports-x11-servers ports-x11-toolkits ports-x11-wm --------------836CF1A536F91ACBE08D4345 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="stable-supfile" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="stable-supfile" # $Id: stable-supfile,v 1.12.2.2 1999/02/11 20:14:51 jdp Exp $ # # This file contains all of the "CVSup collections" that make up the # FreeBSD-stable source tree. # # CVSup (CVS Update Protocol) allows you to download the latest CVS # tree (or any branch of development therefrom) to your system easily # and efficiently (far more so than with sup, which CVSup is aimed # at replacing). If you're running CVSup interactively, and are # currently using an X display server, you should run CVSup as follows # to keep your CVS tree up-to-date: # # cvsup stable-supfile # # If not running X, or invoking cvsup from a non-interactive script, then # run it as follows: # # cvsup -g -L 2 stable-supfile # # You may wish to change some of the settings in this file to better # suit your system: # # host=CHANGE_THIS.FreeBSD.org # This specifies the server host which will supply the # file updates. You must change it to one of the CVSup # mirror sites listed in the FreeBSD Handbook at # http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/mirrors.html. # You can override this setting on the command line # with cvsup's "-h host" option. # # base=/usr # This specifies the root where CVSup will store information # about the collections you have transferred to your system. # A setting of "/usr" will generate this information in # /usr/sup. Even if you are CVSupping a large number of # collections, you will be hard pressed to generate more than # ~1MB of data in this directory. You can override the # "base" setting on the command line with cvsup's "-b base" # option. This directory must exist in order to run CVSup. # # prefix=/usr # This specifies where to place the requested files. A # setting of "/usr" will place all of the files requested # in "/usr/src" (e.g., "/usr/src/bin", "/usr/src/lib"). # The prefix directory must exist in order to run CVSup. # ############################################################################### # # DANGER! WARNING! LOOK OUT! VORSICHT! # # If you add any of the ports collections to this file, be sure to # specify them like this: # # ports-all tag=. # # If you leave out the "tag=." portion, CVSup will delete all of # the files in your ports tree. That is because the ports collections # do not use the same tags as the main part of the FreeBSD source tree. # ############################################################################### # Defaults that apply to all the collections # # IMPORTANT: Change the next line to use one of the CVSup mirror sites # listed at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/mirrors.html. #*default host=cvsup.se.FreeBSD.ORG *default host=cvsup.fi.FreeBSD.ORG #*default host=cvsup3.FreeBSD.ORG *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default prefix=/usr # The following line is for 3-stable. If you want 2.2-stable, change # "RELENG_3" to "RELENG_2_2". #*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3 #Changing to RELENG_4 on 2000-03-16. *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4 *default delete use-rel-suffix # If your network link is a T1 or faster, comment out the following line. *default compress ## Main Source Tree. # # The easiest way to get the main source tree is to use the "src-all" # mega-collection. It includes all of the individual "src-*" collections, # except "src-crypto", "src-eBones", and "src-secure". src-all # These are the individual collections that make up "src-all". If you # use these, be sure to comment out "src-all" above. #src-base #src-bin #src-contrib #src-etc #src-games #src-gnu #src-include #src-kerberosIV #src-lib #src-libexec #src-release #src-sbin #src-share #src-sys #src-tools #src-usrbin #src-usrsbin ## Export-restricted collections. # # Only people in the USA and Canada may fetch these collections. If # you are not in the USA or Canada, please use the collections in the # "secure-supfile" instead. #src-crypto #src-eBones #src-secure --------------836CF1A536F91ACBE08D4345-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 7:49:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.va.home.com (ha1.rdc1.va.home.com [24.2.32.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7C837BB8C for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 07:49:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from john.baldwin.cx ([24.6.244.187]) by mail.rdc1.va.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with ESMTP id <20000527144920.WNSL22611.mail.rdc1.va.home.com@john.baldwin.cx>; Sat, 27 May 2000 07:49:20 -0700 Content-Length: 940 X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20000527093625.A1557@nc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 10:49:20 -0400 (EDT) Organization: BSD, Inc. From: John Baldwin To: Randall Hopper Subject: Re: killall question Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, housley@thehousleys.net Message-Id: <20000527144920.WNSL22611.mail.rdc1.va.home.com@john.baldwin.cx> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 27-May-00 Randall Hopper wrote: > housley@thehousleys.net: > |Randall Hopper said: > | > |> I have a script I run named "newroot". I want to kill it with killall. > |> > |> > ps -ax | grep newroot > |> 842 1 rhh /bin/sh /home/rhh/bin/newroot 360 > |> > |You will have to do something like > | > |kill `ps -ax | grep newroot | sed -e '^[0-9]*'` > > Ok. I thought I'd at least try to use the system version, but sounds like > it's just not as flexible as killall's on other systems. > > Here's the shell script I settled on to override the default /usr/bin/killall: > > ps -x | grep "$1" | egrep -v "grep|$0" | awk '{print $1;}' % killall grep > Thanks for the help. Good luck. :) -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 8:15:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (sol.cc.u-szeged.hu [160.114.8.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC49C37B77D for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 08:15:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (8.9.3+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id RAA29095; Sat, 27 May 2000 17:16:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 12viJX-00089F-00 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 17:15:47 +0200 Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 17:15:47 +0200 From: Szilveszter Adam To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: major problems doing buildworld after cvsup in FreeBSD 4.0 Message-ID: <20000527171547.B30932@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-Stable References: <392FEFF8.81DCE83E@ludd.luth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <392FEFF8.81DCE83E@ludd.luth.se>; from watchman@ludd.luth.se on Sat, May 27, 2000 at 03:55:36PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! Complicated problems like this often have a one-line solution. This one is such a problem: On Sat, May 27, 2000 at 03:55:36PM +0000, Joachim Strömbergson wrote: > # $Id: secure-stable-supfile,v 1.9.2.2 1999/02/11 20:14:51 jdp Exp $ [...] > # Defaults that apply to all the collections > *default host=cvsup.internat.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup > *default prefix=/usr > # The following line is for 3-stable. If you want 2.2-stable, change > # "RELENG_3" to "RELENG_2_2". > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3 Any good reason for not updating this one?:-) Should be RELENG_4, of course. Also, there is an example supfile for 4.x in /usr/share/examples/cvsup that you can check. > *default delete use-rel-suffix > > # If your network link is a T1 or faster, comment out the following line. > *default compress > > ## The international secure collections. > src-crypto > src-eBones > src-secure Also, if you are supping from internat or one of its mirrors, you can just say 'cvs-crypto' beacause there are no more export restrictions then. AFAIK eBones doesn't even exist on 4.x anymore. Hope this helps... Regards: Szilveszter ADAM Szeged University Szeged Hungary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 8:17:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bman.uucom.com (bman.uucom.com [198.202.217.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561E637B8B7 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 08:17:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dakota@tangerine.uucom.com) Received: from tangerine.uucom.com (tangerine.uucom.com [198.202.217.38]) by bman.uucom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/990218bjb) with ESMTP id LAA22481 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 11:17:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tangerine (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tangerine.uucom.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14294 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 11:18:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200005271518.LAA14294@tangerine.uucom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: mwhalen@uucom.com Subject: Re: killall question In-Reply-To: Message from John Baldwin of "Sat, 27 May 2000 10:49:20 EDT." <20000527144920.WNSL22611.mail.rdc1.va.home.com@john.baldwin.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 11:18:22 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think I heard John Baldwin say: > >On 27-May-00 Randall Hopper wrote: >> housley@thehousleys.net: >> |Randall Hopper said: >> | >> |> I have a script I run named "newroot". I want to kill it with killall. >> |> >> |> > ps -ax | grep newroot >> |> 842 1 rhh /bin/sh /home/rhh/bin/newroot 360 >> |> >> |You will have to do something like >> | >> |kill `ps -ax | grep newroot | sed -e '^[0-9]*'` >> >> Ok. I thought I'd at least try to use the system version, but sounds like >> it's just not as flexible as killall's on other systems. IMHO, killall is a terrible script to use since it's behavior is so different on different machines. I've seen newbie sysadmins do bad things with killall on my Solaris machines: Here is the start of Solaris' manpage: DESCRIPTION killall is used by shutdown(1M) to kill all active processes not directly related to the shutdown procedure. killall terminates all processes with open files so that the mounted file systems will be unbusied and can be unmounted. killall sends signal (see kill(1)) to the active processes. If no signal is specified, a default of 15 is used. As you can see, when they type 'killall netscape' when they are r00t, everything gets killed. -matthew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 8:38:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.utfors.se (mail.utfors.se [195.58.103.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39FC137B5DF for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 08:38:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from watchman@ludd.luth.se) Received: from ludd.luth.se (md46920a1.utfors.se [212.105.32.161]) by mail.utfors.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18784; Sat, 27 May 2000 17:37:22 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3930085B.4658B3DD@ludd.luth.se> Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 17:39:39 +0000 From: Joachim =?iso-8859-1?Q?Str=F6mbergson?= Organization: Acne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Szilveszter Adam , FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: major problems doing buildworld after cvsup in FreeBSD 4.0 References: <392FEFF8.81DCE83E@ludd.luth.se> <20000527171547.B30932@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! Szilveszter Adam wrote: > Complicated problems like this often have a one-line solution. This one is > such a problem: > > On Sat, May 27, 2000 at 03:55:36PM +0000, Joachim Strömbergson wrote: > > # $Id: secure-stable-supfile,v 1.9.2.2 1999/02/11 20:14:51 jdp Exp $ > > [...] > > # Defaults that apply to all the collections > > *default host=cvsup.internat.FreeBSD.org > > *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup > > *default prefix=/usr > > # The following line is for 3-stable. If you want 2.2-stable, change > > # "RELENG_3" to "RELENG_2_2". > > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3 > > Any good reason for not updating this one?:-) Should be RELENG_4, of course. Where in my file did you see that? In the file cvsup file I use, and the one included in my first mail, I can only see the following: Message-ID: <392FEFF8.81DCE83E@ludd.luth.se> # Defaults that apply to all the collections # # IMPORTANT: Change the next line to use one of the CVSup mirror sites # listed at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/mirrors.html. #*default host=cvsup.se.FreeBSD.ORG *default host=cvsup.fi.FreeBSD.ORG #*default host=cvsup3.FreeBSD.ORG *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default prefix=/usr # The following line is for 3-stable. If you want 2.2-stable, change # "RELENG_3" to "RELENG_2_2". #*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3 #Changing to RELENG_4 on 2000-03-16. *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4 *default delete use-rel-suffix In other words, the old RELENG_3 tag is commented out and the RELENG_4 is the new tag. Are you saying the cvsup is ignoring the comment character? I hope I'm not blind here, but to mee it looks like I'm cvsupping the RELENG_4. BTW: Thanks for the suggestions on the crypto stuff. I will try that out. -- Cheers! Joachim - Alltid i harmonisk svängning --- FairLight ------ FairLight ------ FairLight ------ FairLight --- Joachim Strömbergson ASIC SoC designer, nice to CUTE animals Phone: +46(0)31 - 27 98 47 Web: http://www.ludd.luth.se/~watchman --------------- Spamfodder: regeringen@regeringen.se --------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 8:47: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from Awfulhak.org (tun.AwfulHak.org [194.242.139.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76E537B7E9; Sat, 27 May 2000 08:46:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA33795; Sat, 27 May 2000 16:46:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA64909; Sat, 27 May 2000 16:46:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200005271546.QAA64909@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: John Baldwin Cc: Randall Hopper , stable@FreeBSD.org, housley@thehousleys.net, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: killall question In-Reply-To: Message from John Baldwin of "Sat, 27 May 2000 10:49:20 EDT." <20000527144920.WNSL22611.mail.rdc1.va.home.com@john.baldwin.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <64901.959442386.1@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 16:46:26 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > On 27-May-00 Randall Hopper wrote: > > housley@thehousleys.net: > > |Randall Hopper said: > > | > > |> I have a script I run named "newroot". I want to kill it with killall. > > |> > > |> > ps -ax | grep newroot > > |> 842 1 rhh /bin/sh /home/rhh/bin/newroot 360 > > |> > > |You will have to do something like > > | > > |kill `ps -ax | grep newroot | sed -e '^[0-9]*'` > > > > Ok. I thought I'd at least try to use the system version, but sounds like > > it's just not as flexible as killall's on other systems. > > > > Here's the shell script I settled on to override the default /usr/bin/killall: > > > > ps -x | grep "$1" | egrep -v "grep|$0" | awk '{print $1;}' > > % killall grep # killall grepscript There are bad sub-string implications there too.... -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 8:48:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (sol.cc.u-szeged.hu [160.114.8.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D8C37B7E9 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 08:48:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (8.9.3+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id RAA00353; Sat, 27 May 2000 17:49:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 12vipQ-0008Ez-00 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 17:48:44 +0200 Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 17:48:44 +0200 From: Szilveszter Adam To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: major problems doing buildworld after cvsup in FreeBSD 4.0 Message-ID: <20000527174844.D30932@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-Stable References: <392FEFF8.81DCE83E@ludd.luth.se> <20000527171547.B30932@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> <3930085B.4658B3DD@ludd.luth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3930085B.4658B3DD@ludd.luth.se>; from watchman@ludd.luth.se on Sat, May 27, 2000 at 05:39:39PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, May 27, 2000 at 05:39:39PM +0000, Joachim Strömbergson wrote: > Hi! > > Szilveszter Adam wrote: > > Complicated problems like this often have a one-line solution. This one is > > such a problem: > > > > On Sat, May 27, 2000 at 03:55:36PM +0000, Joachim Strömbergson wrote: > > > # $Id: secure-stable-supfile,v 1.9.2.2 1999/02/11 20:14:51 jdp Exp $ It was this file. That's why I left the header in. In other words, you changed the default tag in stable-supfile, but not in secure-stable-supfile, thus causing yourself a headache:-) Also, try if the server you are using to pull the sources from has the cvs-crypto collection mirrored. This tends to be a lot faster than internat which is in South Africa. Regards: Szilveszter ADAM Szeged University Szeged Hungary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 8:58:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citadel.cequrux.com (citadel.cdsec.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A885037B7E3 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 08:58:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cequrux.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cequrux.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id RAA08888; Sat, 27 May 2000 17:58:08 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel.cequrux.com via recvmail id 8813; Sat May 27 17:57:35 2000 Message-ID: <392FF0CF.DCBA309F@cequrux.com> Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 17:59:11 +0200 From: Graham Wheeler Organization: Cequrux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Barton Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems compiling FreeBSD stable References: <392E33A1.E1241EB0@cequrux.com> <20000526092859.B8115@stat.Duke.EDU> <392E8BEB.39C4916C@cequrux.com> <392EE4E0.6729CB13@gorean.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug Barton wrote: > > Graham Wheeler wrote: > > > Right now I'm trying to do a `make -i world' to get past the gcc > > problems. Once that completes, I'll try a `make world' and see if I get > > any further that way. I'm cautiously optimistic, to use that well-worn > > politician's phrase. > > I got bit the other day by the need to 'rm -r /usr/include/*' then do a > 'make includes' in /usr/src. If this build fails, that might help you. > > Good luck, The make -i worked for me. I did a make world without the -i afterwards and it went through clean. Unfortunately it hasn't solved any of my problems with Xfree86 4.0 (freezing the machine if Alt-F out of X and then back in; remapping the Enter to to ScrLock if I terminate X), or with my Synaptics touchpad. I'm feeling brave enough to tackle writing a driver for the latter myself (or hacking psm), but don't know enough about X/syscons interaction to attempt doing mcuh about the X problems. -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cequrux.com Director, Research and Development WWW: http://www.cequrux.com CEQURUX Technologies Phone: +27(21)423-6065 Firewalls/VPN Specialists Fax: +27(21)424-3656 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 9:10:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D548B37BECA; Sat, 27 May 2000 09:10:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id JAA09743; Sat, 27 May 2000 09:09:55 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda09741; Sat May 27 09:09:55 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA42417; Sat, 27 May 2000 09:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdR42413; Sat May 27 09:09:38 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.10.1/8.9.1) id e4RG9cA94703; Sat, 27 May 2000 09:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200005271609.e4RG9cA94703@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdF94685; Sat May 27 09:09:06 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-Sender: cy To: Brian Somers Cc: John Baldwin , Randall Hopper , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, housley@thehousleys.net, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: killall question In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 27 May 2000 16:46:26 BST." <200005271546.QAA64909@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 09:09:06 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200005271546.QAA64909@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org>, Brian Somers writes: > > > > On 27-May-00 Randall Hopper wrote: > > > housley@thehousleys.net: > > > |Randall Hopper said: > > > | > > > |> I have a script I run named "newroot". I want to kill it with killal > l. > > > |> > > > |> > ps -ax | grep newroot > > > |> 842 1 rhh /bin/sh /home/rhh/bin/newroot 360 > > > |> > > > |You will have to do something like > > > | > > > |kill `ps -ax | grep newroot | sed -e '^[0-9]*'` > > > > > > Ok. I thought I'd at least try to use the system version, but sounds lik > e > > > it's just not as flexible as killall's on other systems. > > > > > > Here's the shell script I settled on to override the default /usr/bin/kil > lall: > > > > > > ps -x | grep "$1" | egrep -v "grep|$0" | awk '{print $1;}' > > > > % killall grep > > # killall grepscript > > There are bad sub-string implications there too.... Here's a killall script I picked up from somewhere about 6-7 years ago (author unknown). I won't take credit for writing it, though I have modified it a little. The advantage over the FreeBSD and Linux killall is that it's portable to any platform. I've been using a version of this script for over 6 years on Solaris to kill a an application that won't clean up after itself properly. #!/usr/bin/perl # Usage: zap [-signal] pattern # Configuration parameters. $ENV{'PATH'}='/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin'; $sig = 'TERM'; $BSD = -f '/vmunix' || -f '/kernel'; $pscmd = $BSD ? "ps -auxww" : "ps -ef"; $IA = 0; $IA = 1 if ( $0 !~ /zapall/ ); $QUIET = 0; if ($IA) { open(TTYIN, "/dev/tty") || die "can't write /dev/tty: $!"; select(TTYOUT); $| = 1; select(STDOUT); $SIG{'INT'} = 'cleanup'; } if ($#ARGV >= $[ && $ARGV[0] =~ /^-/) { if ($ARGV[0] =~ /-q$/ || $ARGV[0] =~ /-quiet$/) { $QUIET = 1; } elsif ($ARGV[0] =~ /-(\w+)$/) { $sig = $1; } else { print STDERR "$0: illegal argument $ARGV[0] ignored\n"; } shift; } if ($IA) { if ($BSD) { system "stty cbreak /dev/tty 2>&1"; } else { system "stty", 'cbreak', system "stty", 'eol', '^A'; } } open(PS, "$pscmd|") || die "can't run $pscmd: $!"; $title = ; if ($IA) { print TTYOUT $title; } # Catch any errors with eval. A bad pattern, for instance. eval <<'EOF'; while ($cand = ) { chop($cand); ($user, $pid) = split(' ', $cand); next if $pid == $$; $found = !@ARGV; foreach $pat (@ARGV) { $found = 1 if $cand =~ $pat; } next if (!$found); if ($IA) { print TTYOUT "$cand ? "; read(TTYIN, $ans, 1); print TTYOUT "\n" if ($ans ne "\n"); if ($ans =~ /^y/i) { kill $sig, $pid; } if ($ans =~ /^q/i) { last; } } else { kill $sig, $pid; if ($QUIET != 1) { print "Sending signal $sig to PID $pid\n"; } } } EOF if ($IA) { &cleanup; } sub cleanup { if ($BSD) { system "stty -cbreak /dev/tty 2>&1"; } else { system "stty", 'icanon'; system "stty", 'eol', '^@'; } print "\n"; exit; } Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 9:16:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A94C37B77B for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 09:16:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 12vjGJ-0004pO-00 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 27 May 2000 12:16:31 -0400 Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 12:16:30 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: killall question Message-ID: <20000527121630.A18184@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200005271258.IAA29766@thehousleys.net> <20000527093625.A1557@nc.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000527093625.A1557@nc.rr.com>; from aa8vb@nc.rr.com on Sat, May 27, 2000 at 09:36:25AM -0400 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Randall Hopper probably said: > Here's the shell script I settled on to override the default > /usr/bin/killall: > > ps -x | grep "$1" | egrep -v "grep|$0" | awk '{print $1;}' Ewwww. Pet peeve #24; if you're piping grep to awk, you shouldn't be. if you're piping grep to grep to awk, you did too much crack this morning. ps -x | awk '/'$0'/ { system("kill " $1) }' When I want to kill something specific I usually check the owner of the processes as well (it might not be mine, and I usually want to do this as root. ps -aux | awk '$1 == "owner" && $11 == "command" { system("kill " $2) }' awk is quite a nice little language, and includes every feature of grep you'd want to use. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 9:30:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay02.chello.nl (relay02.chello.nl [212.83.68.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA8937B77B for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 09:30:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay02.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 2ee4e7c625482f2f2a1950a80f6c8d58) with ESMTP id <20000527162954.XSDK13476.relay02@chello.nl>; Sat, 27 May 2000 18:29:54 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA08230; Sat, 27 May 2000 18:30:19 GMT (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 18:30:19 +0000 From: Wilko Bulte To: mwhalen@uucom.com Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: killall question Message-ID: <20000527183019.A8203@freebie.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: <200005271518.LAA14294@tangerine.uucom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200005271518.LAA14294@tangerine.uucom.com>; from mwhalen@uucom.com on Sat, May 27, 2000 at 11:18:22AM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, May 27, 2000 at 11:18:22AM -0400, mwhalen@uucom.com wrote: > I think I heard John Baldwin say: > > > >On 27-May-00 Randall Hopper wrote: > >> housley@thehousleys.net: > >> |Randall Hopper said: > >> | > >> |> I have a script I run named "newroot". I want to kill it with killall. > >> |> > >> |> > ps -ax | grep newroot > >> |> 842 1 rhh /bin/sh /home/rhh/bin/newroot 360 > >> |> > >> |You will have to do something like > >> | > >> |kill `ps -ax | grep newroot | sed -e '^[0-9]*'` > >> > >> Ok. I thought I'd at least try to use the system version, but sounds like > >> it's just not as flexible as killall's on other systems. > > IMHO, killall is a terrible script to use since it's behavior is so It is not terrible as such, it is just very incorrectly named.. > different on different machines. I've seen newbie sysadmins do bad > things with killall on my Solaris machines: Here is the start of > Solaris' manpage: It is not only newbies, people who run multiple Unix versions can be confused too. My vote is to rename killall to something that is A. unique and B. covers it's actions well. W/ -- Wilko Bulte FreeBSD, the power to serve http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 9:44:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rr.com (rdu25-28-182.nc.rr.com [24.25.28.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C26637B520 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 09:44:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@rr.com) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA23297; Sat, 27 May 2000 12:45:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 12:45:49 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: killall question Message-ID: <20000527124548.A23179@nc.rr.com> References: <200005271546.QAA64909@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> <200005271609.e4RG9cA94703@cwsys.cwsent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200005271609.e4RG9cA94703@cwsys.cwsent.com>; from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca on Sat, May 27, 2000 at 09:09:06AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group: |Here's a killall script I picked up from somewhere about 6-7 years ago |(author unknown). I won't take credit for writing it, though I have |modified it a little. The advantage over the FreeBSD and Linux killall |is that it's portable to any platform. | |I've been using a version of this script for over 6 years on Solaris to |kill a an application that won't clean up after itself properly. Thanks! It works well. -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 10:35:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F365637B958; Sat, 27 May 2000 10:35:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p16-dn01kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [211.0.245.17]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN/) with ESMTP id CAA13721; Sun, 28 May 2000 02:35:06 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <39300707.7F5CB80@newsguy.com> Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 02:33:59 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: Brian Somers , John Baldwin , Randall Hopper , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, housley@thehousleys.net, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: killall question References: <200005271609.e4RG9cA94703@cwsys.cwsent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > modified it a little. The advantage over the FreeBSD and Linux killall > is that it's portable to any platform. Is it? > $BSD = -f '/vmunix' || -f '/kernel'; Funny, this is failing to pick the DCS kernel installed by installworld here... And I think it won't work with AIX either, just to name one more... -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@another.bsdconspiracy.org "Sentience hurts." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 10:50:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhop1.nyroc.rr.com (mailhop1-1.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76DED37B8D0 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 10:50:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reichman@twcny.rr.com) Received: from mailout1.nyroc.rr.com ([24.92.226.146]) by mailhop1.nyroc.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Sat, 27 May 2000 13:47:09 -0400 Received: from mail1.twcny.rr.com ([24.92.226.74]) by mailout1.nyroc.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Sat, 27 May 2000 13:49:53 -0400 Received: from twcny.rr.com ([24.24.27.98]) by mail1.twcny.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-53939U80000L80000S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Sat, 27 May 2000 13:49:52 -0400 Message-ID: <392FD34A.7DD13055@twcny.rr.com> Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 13:53:14 +0000 From: "Mark S. Reichman" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES ???? References: <392F2A57.4B2C52EA@twcny.rr.com> <392FCE92.3F7A809@rockatronic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ------ man page stuff ------ passive Toggle passive mode. If passive mode is turned on (default is off), the ftp client will send a PASV command for all data ------ more man page stuff ----- ENVIRONMENT ftp utilizes the following environment variables. FTP_PASSIVE_MODE If this variable is set to something else than `NO', ftp will use passive mode by default. I'm not sure what you said below is true. My testing reveals. NO is NO, YES is YES. Any other values are YES. Without an environment variable the client starts up as if it was set to NO. But, besides that, I know how to make it passive or not by default. My question is, and this must be a 4.0 Realease thing, why was it changed to FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES in the login.conf? I must admit I dont entirely understand what passive mode is, but I have never needed it or used it in all my years of computing. And if I'm not crazy, the ftp client in 3.4 FreeBSD and below did not start up in passive mode by default. Was it a change during the IPV6 mod? Is this necassary? I preferred the old behavior. Mike wrote: > > Hey I know this one!. > > FTP_PASSIVE_MODE is a "all ot nothing" environment variable in that > if it's there it's yes. In other words FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=foo is the > same as FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES (or no). So remove it entirely if you > don't want PASV mode. > > Mike > > "Mark S. Reichman" wrote: > > > > I just noticed while ftp'ing to various freebsd > > sites that the ftp client starts up in passive mode. > > I dont recall it doing this in the past. In fact, the first thing > > one must now do is shut passive mode off when first > > entering the ftp client. I changed the login.conf > > file to FTP_MASSIVE_MODE=NO and did cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf. > > Should this be set to YES for some reason?? > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 11:31:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B61437B7B7; Sat, 27 May 2000 11:31:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id LAA10095; Sat, 27 May 2000 11:30:19 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda10093; Sat May 27 11:30:04 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA06404; Sat, 27 May 2000 11:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdyL6393; Sat May 27 11:29:40 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.10.1/8.9.1) id e4RITdR53955; Sat, 27 May 2000 11:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200005271829.e4RITdR53955@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdD53304; Sat May 27 11:28:47 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-Sender: cy To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , Brian Somers , John Baldwin , Randall Hopper , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, housley@thehousleys.net, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: killall question In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 May 2000 02:33:59 +0900." <39300707.7F5CB80@newsguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 11:28:47 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <39300707.7F5CB80@newsguy.com>, "Daniel C. Sobral" writes: > Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > > > modified it a little. The advantage over the FreeBSD and Linux killall > > is that it's portable to any platform. > > Is it? > > > $BSD = -f '/vmunix' || -f '/kernel'; > > Funny, this is failing to pick the DCS kernel installed by installworld > here... And I think it won't work with AIX either, just to name one > more... Haven't tried it on AIX. Ideally it should do a uname -sr to decide what ps to use. The beauty of it is that you can modify it to suit your needs. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 12:17:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BAC2437B5AC for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 12:17:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 7389 invoked by uid 0); 27 May 2000 19:17:10 -0000 Received: from p3ee0b3fa.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (62.224.179.250) by mail01.rzmi.gmx.net with SMTP; 27 May 2000 19:17:10 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27241 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 27 May 2000 17:18:32 +0200 Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 17:18:32 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: killall question Message-ID: <20000527171832.F2305@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200005271258.IAA29766@thehousleys.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200005271258.IAA29766@thehousleys.net>; from housley@thehousleys.net on Sat, May 27, 2000 at 12:58:25PM -0000 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, May 27, 2000 at 12:58 -0000, housley@thehousleys.net wrote: > Randall Hopper said: > > > I have a script I run named "newroot". I want to kill it > > with killall. > > > > > ps -ax | grep newroot > > 842 1 rhh /bin/sh /home/rhh/bin/newroot 360 As you can see, the process name is '/bin/sh' and the newroot script is just a parameter upon invocation. > You will have to do something like > > kill `ps -ax | grep newroot | sed -e '^[0-9]*'` It's the usual habit of either -v grepping the grep command itself or writing the search pattern in a way that it doesn't match on itself. Otherwise you could hit two commands: The grepped and grep, depending on the machine's load and the "freshness" of the ps output (sorry, I lack a better word). This might be not so big an issue, but I wouldn't want to search for such an error if you do more than just a kill and when it suddenly matters if you accidently kill your grep, too. Make it read something like ps -ax | grep 'new[r]oot' | ... ps -ax | grep newroot | grep -v grep | ... and cut(1) could be your friend for getting the PID (do I miss something when I feel the above sed example is missing a subst command? I would expect at least something like ... | sed 's/ .*$//' ... | sed 's/^\([0-9]*\)/\1/' ). BTW These are situations where I feel PID files appropriate. "echo $! > $FILE" upon service's start (when using a bourne shell) and "kill -TERM $( cat $FILE )" when shutting down. This way you can test for existence of this file at will or deliver any signal you want. Or go ahead and look out for daemontools. And once you start wrapping your service with an up and down script there's not long a way towards SysV boot scripts. I really wished FreeBSD had them, too. Especially when you temporarily want to stop and restart a service or if the service is of temporary nature only (as I had it lately with the NFS mounted installworld), I feel SysV scripts to be a real big gain. Instead I had to grep and read the rc scripts to start every detail by hand and kill them afterwards. BSD rc scripts are more appropriate for editing rc.conf and rebooting if you're not 100% sure of what you have to do in detail (and even experienced admins fail to always get it right). If there are serious thoughts about incorporating SysV style boot scripts into FreeBSD I'm willing to help. But if this topic is only good for starting religious (and thus inproductive) threads I don't want to get an answer on this. :) Not that I was afraid of discussing things in public -- it's just that I don't want to waste resources. Otherwise I already had asked why ee is the default editor in the installation procedure. :> virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 12:30:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE63437B537 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 12:30:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 185AC1C5C; Sat, 27 May 2000 15:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 15:30:45 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: Sameh Ghane Cc: Sam Habash , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: making 4.0 DOS resistant Message-ID: <20000527153044.U86725@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <20000526231337.T86725@jade.chc-chimes.com> <20000527145013.C90356@anthologeek.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000527145013.C90356@anthologeek.net>; from sw@anthologeek.net on Sat, May 27, 2000 at 02:50:14PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, May 27, 2000 at 02:50:14PM +0200, Sameh Ghane wrote: > options TCP_DROP_SYNFIN #drop TCP packets with SYN+FIN > options TCP_RESTRICT_RST #restrict emission of TCP RST > > if you run an IRC server or such a thing. This doesn't cover spoofed ip syn floods. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect / Computer Horizons Corp - CVM e-mail: billf@chc-chimes.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 12:31:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEF537B537 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 12:31:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daemon@mips.inka.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 12vmIg-0000kk-03; Sat, 27 May 2000 21:31:10 +0200 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA56487 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 May 2000 21:03:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: major problems doing buildworld after cvsup in FreeBSD 4.0 Date: 27 May 2000 21:03:54 +0200 Message-ID: <8gp66q$1n4u$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> References: <392FEFF8.81DCE83E@ludd.luth.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Joachim Strömbergson wrote: > I've got some major problems doing a "make buildworld" after updating > the source tree. [...] Szilveszter already pointed out the problem. Actually, you don't have to bother with the supfiles yourself. The provided examples are ready to use; anything you would want to change can be overridden from the command line. The easiest way for you would be to just add these lines to /etc/make.conf: SUP_UPDATE= yes SUP= /usr/local/bin/cvsup SUPFLAGS= -g -h cvsup.fi.freebsd.org SUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/4.x-stable-supfile SUPFILE1= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/4.x-secure-stable-supfile PORTSSUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile DOCSUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile Then a # cd /usr/src; make update will perform a CVSup update of your source (and ports) tree. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 12:34:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D457937BA10 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 12:34:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA89758; Sat, 27 May 2000 12:33:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <3930231B.D04BC457@gorean.org> Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 12:33:47 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0526 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Graham Wheeler Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems compiling FreeBSD stable References: <392E33A1.E1241EB0@cequrux.com> <20000526092859.B8115@stat.Duke.EDU> <392E8BEB.39C4916C@cequrux.com> <392EE4E0.6729CB13@gorean.org> <392FF0CF.DCBA309F@cequrux.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Graham Wheeler wrote: > The make -i worked for me. I did a make world without the -i afterwards > and it went through clean. Glad to hear that. :) > Unfortunately it hasn't solved any of my problems with Xfree86 4.0 My experience with it is universally bad. I know it works for others, but from what I've read the CW at this point is that if it doesn't work for you, and you can't patch the source, wait. HTH, Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 15:58:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fobos.ldc.net (fobos.ldc.net [213.160.128.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4316037B6B5 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 15:58:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sasha@deimos.ldc.net) Received: from deimos.ldc.net (deimos.ldc.net [213.160.128.3]) by fobos.ldc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA59937 for ; Sun, 28 May 2000 01:58:15 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (sasha@localhost) by deimos.ldc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA18166 for ; Sun, 28 May 2000 01:58:15 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from sasha@deimos.ldc.net) Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 01:58:15 +0300 (EEST) From: Alexander Nazarenko To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Expect port Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have some troubles with expect lang port, that md5 checksum doesn't match it doesn't metter, but that it requires tcl/tk based on X11 it's problem. I haven't X11 and I have some expect scripts which i need to run on FreeBSD now, maybe is there statically linked expect package or something like this? Because i don't have any wish to install X11. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 20:50:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f328.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 30F5D37B7BE for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 20:50:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmd526@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 32722 invoked by uid 0); 28 May 2000 03:50:05 -0000 Message-ID: <20000528035005.32721.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.220.228.2 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 27 May 2000 20:50:05 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.220.228.2] From: "John Daniels" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4.0-RELEASE to 4.0-STABLE upgrade Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 23:50:05 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi: I just did an upgrade to STABLE. I just wanted to check what I did was OK. First, the handbook says to do the following order: 1. backup 2. CVsup 3. check /etc/make.conf and /etc/group 4. drop to single-user mode 5. remove /usr/obj 6. make world (or make buildworld and make installworld) 7. update /etc, /dev, (and optionally /stand) 8. compile and install a new kernel 9. reboot (with fastboot) ****** WHAT I DID DIFFERENTLY ******** 1. I used mergemaster for updating /etc. 2. www.freebsddiary.com has description of going from 4.0-RELEASE to STABLE and provides a script for doing so. The description and script shows that compiling and installing a new kernel (#8 above) comes *AFTER* make world (#6 above) - and *BEFORE* updating /etc. Thus, according to them, #8 comes before #7 in the above list. 3. Oops! I removed /usr/obj *AFTER* the make world, not before. I tried to redo make world but after a few messages (which seemed unimportant) it told me that the proc tables were full. I then compiled and installed a new kernel without any noticeable problems. 4. NOTE: For me, /etc/make.conf has only one line: "USA_RESIDENT=YES". Apparantly /etc/defaults/make.conf is what needs to be edited (after being copied to /etc.) Since I had not figured this out beforehand, I was unable to uncomment out CFLAGS and NOPROFILE as instructed in the Handbook. I have booted into, and am writing to you from, STABLE. Whatever I may have done wrong, so far I have not seen any (noticeable) problems. QUESTION: Will my system be OK? Will any of the above cause any problems (especially removing /usr/obj before making and installing the kernel) FOLLOWUP: Now that I have gone through the process of upgrading, I am looking into security. What is the easiest, most obvious (as in "duh!, why didn't you ...") steps to take to guard security. My setup is very simple: my home PC connected to a router with DSL service. I am the only user. I would like to use this machine as a web server and mail server, but I don't have anyone ftp-ing in (but I need to ftp out to retrieve files from time to time), logging in remotely, telnet-ing in, etc. Do I just modify inet.conf and/or hosts.allow to deny those services? How difficult is it to add a firewall like IPfilter? I will look into security in the handbook, of course, but all comments are welcome. Thanks in advance for all replies. John PS *THANKS* to all the FreeBSD developers who have contributed to this awesome system. The more I learn about it the more I am impressed. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 27 23: 2: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (sol.cc.u-szeged.hu [160.114.8.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78F637B86A for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 23:01:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (8.9.3+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id IAA13881; Sun, 28 May 2000 08:02:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 12vw97-0003VE-00 for ; Sun, 28 May 2000 08:01:57 +0200 Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 08:01:57 +0200 From: Szilveszter Adam To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.0-RELEASE to 4.0-STABLE upgrade Message-ID: <20000528080156.B12786@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20000528035005.32721.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000528035005.32721.qmail@hotmail.com>; from jmd526@hotmail.com on Sat, May 27, 2000 at 11:50:05PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! On Sat, May 27, 2000 at 11:50:05PM -0400, John Daniels wrote: > Hi: > > I just did an upgrade to STABLE. I just wanted to check what I did was OK. > > First, the handbook says to do the following order: > 1. backup > 2. CVsup > 3. check /etc/make.conf and /etc/group > 4. drop to single-user mode > 5. remove /usr/obj > 6. make world (or make buildworld and make installworld) > 7. update /etc, /dev, (and optionally /stand) > 8. compile and install a new kernel > 9. reboot (with fastboot) Have you also upgraded the Handbook?:-) It is now possible by going to an ftp mirror site and cd-ing to /pub/FreeBSD/doc// and downloading the docs in the wanted format. I only ask this because the new docs should have pointers to mergemaster... > ****** WHAT I DID DIFFERENTLY ******** > 1. I used mergemaster for updating /etc. See above. This is no problem, the util has been put into the base system for exactly this purpose:-) > 2. www.freebsddiary.com has description of going from 4.0-RELEASE to STABLE > and provides a script for doing so. The description and script shows that > compiling and installing a new kernel (#8 above) comes *AFTER* make world > (#6 above) - and *BEFORE* updating /etc. Thus, according to them, #8 comes > before #7 in the above list. Normally there is nothing special involved in doing an upgrade from -RELEASE to -STABLE it works without any heavy magic... Now, to your question. IMHO it doesn't matter if you upgrade /etc before or after the new kernel build. It is not a good idea to forget it though... that's why I do it before building the new kernel because after doing 'make install' I just tend to reboot without much ado:-) and by then the upgrade process has to be finished. Your preference:-) > 3. Oops! I removed /usr/obj *AFTER* the make world, not before. I tried to > redo make world but after a few messages (which seemed unimportant) it told > me that the proc tables were full. I then compiled and installed a new > kernel without any noticeable problems. See, if you remove it after the 'make world' then there will be nothing to remove the next time before:-) I tend to do this too because I do not need the obj files for anything and it uses quite a lot of disk space. So you can certainly remove /usr/obj after the installworld. (but do not do this between build and install, like I did it once while not paying attention. It can be detrimental to your health because your chances for suffering a stroke right after noticing this are quite high:-)))) > 4. NOTE: For me, /etc/make.conf has only one line: "USA_RESIDENT=YES". > Apparantly /etc/defaults/make.conf is what needs to be edited (after being > copied to /etc.) Since I had not figured this out beforehand, I was unable > to uncomment out CFLAGS and NOPROFILE as instructed in the Handbook. Please, do not copy files from /etc/defaults to /etc for heaven's sake. They are meant to contain the defaults and the knobs you can touch, but the actual changes go into the file in /etc. You can copy-n-paste though:-) Some of these files contain sections which try to source other files to gather in all the overrides you defined and will end up sourcing themselves infinitely, thus causing the "proc table full" errors and non-bootable systems for many. Please, do not be lazy... > FOLLOWUP: > Now that I have gone through the process of upgrading, I am looking into > security. What is the easiest, most obvious (as in "duh!, why didn't you > ...") steps to take to guard security. My setup is very simple: my home PC > connected to a router with DSL service. I am the only user. See the Handbook (after upgrading it like described above.) and also http://www.freebsd.org/security Generally it is a good idea to disable the services you are not going to use. If you are not going to use any of its services, you can even disbale inetd itself. (SSH is not affected by this as installed on FreeBSD by default.) To do this, modify /etc/rc.conf (*do not copy over /etc/defaults/rc.conf, no just change that one "YES" to "NO" in the appropriate line*) For IPfilter howtos, well you can always check the man page, and there are certainly others, maybe freebsddiary.org has one? (I do not know.) Hope this helps somewhat... -- Regards: Szilveszter ADAM Szeged University Szeged Hungary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message